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[{"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "There are nonhuman extraterrestrial"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "vehicles, bodies, civilizations. They"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "are completely non-hostile. If they were"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "hostile, we'd be gone when we detonated"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "the first atomic bomb. Number two, the"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "majority of all objects that are seen,"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "photographed, chased by our military,"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "our legal military are man-made craft"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "coming out of the Lockheed Skunkworks,"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "Rathon, Northrup, Brahman, SIC, Booze"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "Allen, Hamilton, and a number of other"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "prime contractors, the list of which we"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "have and have been pro given to law"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "enforcement and to uh the executive"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "branch in the Congress."}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "The other category and that's completely"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "confused is what are called"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "interdimensional"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "intelligences."}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "Now let me unpack this for just a"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "minute. I know because this has caused"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "Congresswoman Luna and the vice"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "president to make some statements that"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "are not true. Um but this gets into more"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "than we can get into today dealing with"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "the physics of interstellar travel. But"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "let me just say that if you go beyond"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "the speed of light, you're not doing it"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "in a linear fashion. You are creating an"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "electromagnetic field where that craft"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "and everyone and it drops out of linear"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "spaceime into another dimension"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "traverses through that dimension to"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "another point and it's called quantum"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "entanglement"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "where you know the spooky effect"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "Einstein talked about where the same"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "particle be in two places at once. uh to"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "this entangled universe where every"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "point in spaceime is connected to every"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "other point in spaceime"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "and that is how they're doing it. But"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "when they're in transit or if they are"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "shifted they could be in the atmosphere"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "and shifted out of 3D they're in another"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "dimension but they don't originate from"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "that dimension they're transing it. Does"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "this make sense? So I call them"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "transdimensional"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "interstellar"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "civilizations."}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "Now because some of the phenomenon"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "dealing with ghosts, goblins, demons,"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "angels are similar,"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "theologists and religious people have"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "conflated them because"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "phenomenologically from an observation"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "empirical point of view there is some"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "similary over overlap because the ET"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "technologies cross into these other"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "dimensions operationally,"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "scientifically."}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "Is this clear? I'm trying to be really"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "clear on this without getting into"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "arcane physics. So I think this is why"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "what's happened in the last few months"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "is is very disconcerting"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "because there are people who are working"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "with the intelligence community who are"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "in the White House, the Pentagon, CIA,"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "Congress who are gaslighting and"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "misleading our leaders. And I will be"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "blunt about it. It cannot be allowed to"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "continue. And those people need to be"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "careful what they say because this is"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "all going to come out now. And if it"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "comes out incorrectly, it'll be a"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "thousand times worse than CO. If it"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "comes out properly, it'll be a new"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "civilization and one of the most"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "unifying, beautiful experiences for all"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "of humanity in in recorded history. That"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "is how stark the difference is. And this"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "was in the briefing for the president"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "right after he got elected. So we we"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "have to be very careful. Next."}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "Now, if you really want to know what's"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "going on on this subject, this is where"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "you need to go. The Disclosure Project"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "Intelligence Archive, uh, the URL is"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "dpiarchchive.com."}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "Everything is in there. We spent about"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "half a million dollars digitizing"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "everything I've collected for 35 years."}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "Um, and it's it's available to all of"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "you for free. Um, and so you can go"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "through that and see. you will see that"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "this archive has significantly more"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "information uh than anything that you"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "will see anywhere else in the world"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "including the testimony of 115 over 115"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "top secret whistleblowers is in there"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "their full testimony their credentials"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "now it's so much it's almost what Dr."}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "Dr. J. Allen Heinneck of the Project"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "Blue Book director said, \"It's an"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "embarrassment of riches. We have so"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "much, but I would recommend for the"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "media and those of you interested in"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "this matter to do a deep dive into this"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "archive.\" Next,"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "now this is what's released this"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "morning. Um, it's a over the moon and"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "there's a a triangular formation of"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "three bluish lights. Um we have"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "thousands of images way better than this"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "but this is the best of what was"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "released today. Um so uh next and in"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "contrast you'll see the one in the upper"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "left that's from one of our C5 contact"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "teams. We'll get into this uh the"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "psionic uh mind consciousness technology"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "interface program uh that I started in"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "1990 um that was a result of that one."}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "You can see the middle one is a a"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "nonhuman intelligence ET from another"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "star system that appeared at one of our"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "events and he was uh two people away"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "from me. He look popped in and uh David"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "Maronei who who wrote Enemy of the State"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "took this photo. I said, \"David, there's"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "a guy standing right here.\" Boom. There"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "he was. Um transdimensionally came in."}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "It's not from another dimension. It's"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "physical and their craft are physical."}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "But when they're partially in this"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "dimension, you could get it confused"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "with an apparition or a ghost or some"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "other phenomenon. So you have to"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "understand the physics of"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "transdimensional interstellar travel."}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "It's it's not your granddad's ultim. It"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "just isn't. All right. And the bottom"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "one is one that came out of a Los Alamos"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "from the the time of the Roswell crash."}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "And they had had archives brought in."}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "And this is a dissection of an ET on a"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "slab from the 1920s. It's been dated to"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "the 1920s. Um, this is one of the"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "pictures in the briefing document for"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "the president. I don't often show it."}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "It's a bit gruesome. There's a towel"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "over the head. Um, the archive is filled"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "with this sort of information. And they"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "came from a woman whose grandmother was"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "at the Trinity program and and made the"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "atomic bomb program and then got moved"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "to Roswell because that was the only"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "atomic bomb in the world when uh that"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "craft crashed in the Roswell area in"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "1940s. So that when she died, her"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "granddaughter was going through some old"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "books in the in in the attic and this"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "photo fell out. And apparently there was"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "someone who gave her the photo from the"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "photo lab there in Roswell in the in the"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "' 40s from a prior retrieval of an ET"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "body in the 20s."}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "So the secrecy on this goes back way"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "more than 100 years. Top secret code"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "named code you know level uh special"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "access projects. Next here's one of the"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "triangular craft over us. This is a"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "north of Grman or Rathon device. is a"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "electrogravidic anti-gravity."}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "Um, and this is what members of Congress"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "I have briefed have been had people come"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "in after me and said, \"Do not look into"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "that. It will cost you a lot. Don't look"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "at this.\""}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "That the biggest secret"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "isn't that we're not alone in the"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "universe. is that we have programs that"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "have already reverse engineered these"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "technologies, but they have not been"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "used in the national security interest."}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "They have been used in criminal"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "enterprises, including murder,"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "kidnapping, child trafficking, drug"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "running, human trafficking, and other"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "issues. This we can prove this"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "information from a whole group of"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "military folks who are working with me"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "has been handed over to US law"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "enforcement and as we speak right now"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "being investigated."}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "All right."}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "And this beautiful blue boomerang shaped"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "plasma craft is one that flew in over us"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "at Joshua Tree National Park when I was"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "with Demi Lovado. And we were we had set"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "up a contact protocol out there. And"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "this is way more interesting than I"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "think the best photo of what was"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "released today. Don't you?"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "Anyway, uh next."}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "So, let's let's uh let's play this. This"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "here's something that was released by"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "Congressman Berles. I had seen it before"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "he released it."}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "And you'll see a sphere intercepted by a"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "Hellfire missile."}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "Now"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "this"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "event"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "was friendly fire."}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "It was not an extraterrestrial device."}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "That sphere was us."}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "Now the operators here is a real"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "problem. The first time I briefed the uh"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "head of intelligence for the joint"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "chiefs of staff and the head of the"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "defense intelligence agency, they were"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "not read into this. And I said, \"Your"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "military aircraft and systems are often"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "intercepting and having close calls, not"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "with alien vehicles, but with"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "clandestine"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "covertly made and funded blackbudget"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "aircraft made by our aerospace giants,"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "but offbook and without the knowledge of"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "Congress or the president. And"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "therefore, very few people are read"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "into. So you may have a a top secret"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "clearance and in Washington that and a"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "couple bucks get you on the metro but"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "frankly but but it doesn't give you"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "access to those special access projects"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "that are code word compartmented dealing"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "with this. So much of this is centered"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "in corporate but there are government"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "people agencies that do have this"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "information but they often are under"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "orders not to share it with the elected"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "uh leaders or the cabinet. So this is a"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "dysfunction that has to get corrected"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "and I I know it's being looked at. Next"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "in contra distinction this is an actual"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "extraterrestrial sphere unlike the other"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "one that was man-made and this is in"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "Buga Colombia. You're going to hear a"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "lot about this towards the end of our"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "press conference. It's very important."}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "It uh in Buga Colombia uh this is what"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "Haime Mau now has possession of. This"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "object came in and it landed. It got too"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "close to a power line and shorted out"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "and it's in our possession, his"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "possession and we have been doing the"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "studies on it. But that is an"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "extraterrestrial technology. It's the"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "first time in history that one has"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "landed and been acquired and then not"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "subsequently been grabbed by a swap team"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "of some type. So this is a huge historic"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "opportunity and it is real. Even though"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "most people in the internet can't"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "believe it, it is real. Uh, next."}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "So, here is something that I'm having to"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "say since people like uh Robert Bigalow"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "of Bigalow Aerospace and others who were"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "friends with the president have been"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "gaslighting him about this issue. They"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "are saying to do a soft or partial"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "disclosure"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "um and cover up most of it. No, that"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "can't happen. Now, there are opsex"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "operational security dealing with this,"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "right? That is legitimate. You don't"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "want the propulsion systems that make"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "something fly like that in the hands of"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "terrorists. But you cannot deny their"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "existence because that leaves people"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "open to the myth that all of the people"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "who've had contact and had experiences"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "such as abductions and mutilations"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "are encountering aliens when they're"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "encountering our own covert programs."}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "CIA psychological warfare operations."}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "We're going to prove this today. So once"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "you use an advanced tech on innocent"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "civilians here and around the world, you"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "can't now claim to keep it secret. That"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "has to be known. Now that you don't need"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "the operating system, just like no one"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "can go down to Ace Hardware and buy a"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "nuclear bomb or a nuclear trigger,"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "right? But you have to disclose they"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "exist because they've been used"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "illegally and abusively against the"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "population for decades since the late"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "1950s."}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "Next,"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "now this is something I want to touch on"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "just very carefully."}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "I know the media here is going to go"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "oof."}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "All I'm going to say is that one of the"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "most senior people in national security"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "for a prior administration and I met"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "extensively for about three hours last"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "year. He has the audio of the video of"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "some files from Epstein Island of key"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "people in our intelligence and national"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "security system. When we key, I mean"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "very senior that are compromised and are"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "being actively blackmailed to slow down"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "or distort disclosure."}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "Um, I'm going to say that. I'm going to"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "let that sit. I will say to the"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "Department of Justice, if you want to"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "inquire into this and pursue it because"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "we're talking blackmailing officials at"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "the highest level that is interfering"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "with the function of government. So that"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "is what Epstein Island was. It was a"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "honeypot set up by the intelligence"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "community to ent trap certain high-v"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "valueue targets and then control them"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "through that process of blackmail. This"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "happens all the time. Everyone knows"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "Jagger Hoover had huge files on"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "everyone, every mistress for every"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "president. That's how he stayed in"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "office. But this is serious."}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "This is this is something that can"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "really affect the truth of what gets to"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "the president in Congress or whether"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "things were allowed to come out. So,"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "this is something that has to get nipped"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "in the bud. I won't say who the"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "officials are who are compromised, where"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "I got the information or who's doing the"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "blackmailing, but I know the two senior"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "former government officials doing the"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "blackmailing. I know both of them."}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "All right. Next."}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:28", "text": ">> Are aliens real?"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:30", "text": ">> Uh, they're real, but I haven't seen"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "them. And and and uh they're not being"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "kept in uh what is it?"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:38", "text": ">> Area 51. Area 51 there. There's no"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "underground uh facility unless there's"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "this enormous conspiracy and they they"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "hid it from the president of the United"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "States."}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:52", "text": ">> Okay. So, you all know he had to walk"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "that back. But what he said there was"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "true. And it wasn't because it it was"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "because we had put together and I had"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "provided to John Podesta who had put"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "together the cabinet and who had been"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "chief of staff for Clinton a huge file a"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "thing like this one and so he knew it"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "was real but he never through the chain"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "of command got access so he wasn't"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "lying. Uh now Trump later castigated him"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "on Air Force One. He was flying and he"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "said he shouldn't have said that and"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "that's top secret. And that prompted him"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "to then issue this statement which I"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "won't read to you, you know it. Um where"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "the president ordered the secretary of"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "war to start releasing files and to do"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "it as soon as possible. And of course it"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "says any and all information connected"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "to these highly complex but extremely"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "interesting important matters. So, what"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "happened today was just again a trial"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "balloon first little bit next."}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:48", "text": ">> And"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:49", "text": ">> you got to release all the UFO files."}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "Uh, we're working on it."}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:52", "text": ">> We saw aliens. We saw aliens.gov."}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:53", "text": ">> I don't think they're I don't think"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "they're aliens. I think they're demons"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "anyway, but"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:58", "text": ">> that's a long discussion."}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:00", "text": ">> All right."}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "I just want to address this for just a"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "moment. I had to go. Benny Johnson is a"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "big podcaster and friends with the vice"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "president. And when this happened, my"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "phone blew up from all over the world."}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "Um, and of course there are certain"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "elements of of like the OPA state group"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "at the at at the Catholic Church and"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "other groups that have been pushing this"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "the aliens or demons agenda for 50"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "years. Um, he is a Catholic. I respect"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "people's faith, but you cannot confuse"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "an extraterrestrial advanced"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "civilization with a demon or an angel."}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "This is very dangerous for somebody one"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "heartbeat away from the Oval Office to"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "speak this way because this is how we"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "end up in World War II that's"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "interplanetary, which is what the CIA"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "has been wanting for decades. They keep"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "the fires burning. They provoke"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "disinformation. They brainwash people"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "with nonsense. And that statement has"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "got to be retracted. Um, now let me"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "explain how this has evolved. I was on"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "the show, the Benny Johnson show a week"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "later and I laid this out. One of the"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "things that the vice president said and"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "this is common mistake."}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "You see this little thing?"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "You know what it is?"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "Smartphone."}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "So what? But if you took this back then"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "and showed Thomas Jefferson my farm out"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "in the country near his house um and you"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "showed him this, it would be"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "supernatural. So what the full clip was,"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "he said because these are behaving"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "supernaturally, they're demons."}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "But remember, everything we're using in"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "this room right now would be"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "supernatural to someone 500 years ago."}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "An airplane would be impossible to find"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "gravity, right?"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "If you were to show a video on a cell"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "phone to people in Salem, Massachusetts,"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "you'd be burned at the stake as a witch."}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "Okay, this is not okay to say something"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "like that. U this is a serious national"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "security matter. It cannot devolve into"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "the lunatic fringe of those kinds of"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "theologies because what are we going to"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "go gallop pelmemell back to the 7th"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "century? We might as well be the"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "ayatollas in Iran."}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "This can't happen. I'm sorry to come on"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "strong on this, but this is very"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "dangerous stuff. Now, is there a"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "theological and spiritual aspect of"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "this? Yes, because the whole universe is"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "a conscious quantum hologram. The whole"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "creation. I believe in God. I believe in"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "the prophets. I I don't have a problem"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "with that. But there are different"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "phenomena. One of the things I want to"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "leave you with on this because I could"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "go on all day. I won't we have other"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "things to do."}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "When I was at the Vatican with Pope John"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "Paul senior theologian Monsor Balduchi I"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "was in his apartments overlooking St."}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "Peter's and this issue came up then this"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "would have been in 1995 67"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "and he was himself a demonologist. His"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "specialty were demons believe it or not"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "at the Vatican. And he laughed when this"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "came up. He said look neither angels nor"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "demons need flying saucers."}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "He put it so simply and it's true. So"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "people need to be careful. You're all"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "you're going to hear so many theories"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "about what this is and this"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "interdimensional demon part of it is a"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "deliberate gaslighting by senior people"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "in these covert illegal programs to prey"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "on the religious beliefs of certain"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "people. 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People meditating together."}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "people using the remote viewing"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "protocols, making contact, understanding"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "what the phenomenon is, and we'll talk"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "about that. Uh, it's more than just 3D"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "because extraterrestrial civilizations"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "cross through dimensions, and so they"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "can be out in the desert in forms that"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "are extremely subtle. 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And they're not communicating at"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "the speed of light, which is this radio"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "frequency. Because if their home planet"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "is 2 million light years away, it would"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "take 2 million years for that message to"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "get there. They're all dead. 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And part of the protocol is once"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "you feel you've made a connection is"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "that you kind of like it's like Google"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "Earth where you zoom in and show them"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "your exact precise location. So this is"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "a technique. It works. um it's"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "demonstrabably works and it's been"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "proven to work with thousands of people"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "all over the world where we've done"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "this. Now we want you know tens of"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "millions of people to be ready to do it"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "because I think all of this is going to"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "come out and at some point we'll be at"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "the age of let's say post acknowledging"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "and disclosing this issue to trying to"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "create a civilization where humans make"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "peaceful contact. And you know what?"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "I I deal with senators and congressmen"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "and people in White House and other"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "positions all the time. They don't know"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "this very well. There are people at, you"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "know, Lockheed Skunk Works and Northrup"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "Grumman and CIA and and JC Joint Special"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "Operations Command that do uh that are"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "the psionic operators and and that I"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "know who they are, but you know, your"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "your government leaders do not. And this"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "is what we need to start a whole"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "educational program for the public but"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "also our leaders. And who's going to"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "who's going to pioneer that? This is why"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "we call it this frontier, right? It's"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "the new frontier of contact"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:29", "text": ">> where we as the people, we the people go"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "out and make contact. And it works"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "because the very nature of our reality"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "and extraterrestrial civilizations that"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "are conscious, those people, we're all"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "people. I mean they look very different"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "and they may be from very diverse you"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "know star systems from ours but when you"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "boil it all down they're awake and we're"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "awake and that is the singularity that's"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "the point of contact and when you can go"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "deep into just pure awareness and pure"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "conscious mind which the meditation I"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "teach helps with doing that and the"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "breathing exercises all this is in"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "demonstrated in the movie but also in"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "the C5 contact app, then you have the"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "ability to see remote places. We call it"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "remote viewing now, but also take it"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "from not more than just seeing. Then you"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "connect to them and invite them. So we"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "don't call them, they're not butlers at"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "Downtown Abbey or something there. We"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "invite them politely to come in any way"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "it's safe for them. Um, now one of the"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "protocols also is in any way that's safe"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "and appropriate for this time and place"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "in this group because we know that there"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "are weapon systems that can track them"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "when they come 3D that can hit them. We"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "don't want our groups or the ETs to be"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "harmed. So, we have a very specific set"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "of protocols around this and it's it's"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "because of the time we live in. I"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "believe the time will come where it will"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "be much easier to make contact. When I"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "started the process"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "with the public in 1990, this is our"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "36th year, it was much easier. There"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "were way fewer weapon systems, less"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "sophisticated. 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Now the other which is the"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "foundational"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "and people need to remember this. The"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "foundation of the disclosure project was"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "C5 contact. Let me tell you a little"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "story of why. In 1992"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "we had a group about 60 people. I was"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "crazy when I took that many people out"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "to a wilderness setting on a beach near"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "Pensacola, Florida. 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And"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "that blows most people don't know that."}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "It blows people's minds."}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:07", "text": ">> Close Encounters of the Fifth movie"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "first came out. Demi Lovado got the app"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "and did it on her birthday, her 27th"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "birthday, and this huge craft shows up"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "with her friends. That's a true story by"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "then. And same thing with William"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "Shatner and a lot of other pe. 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So I've known this since I was"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "18 and which I'm I'll be 71 in June. So"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "that was a long time ago. But I will"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "tell you that this is beginning to be"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "made very aware of in military and other"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "circles. But what we want to do is be"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "sure that the C5 concept is always in"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "the framework of diplomatic peaceful"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "contact. We we're not doing it to"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "acquire technology. We're not doing it"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "for any selfish reason. We're doing it"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "to create an like an ambassador"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "relationship. And that's why we call the"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "whole program ambassadors to the"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "universe. that we are humans"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "volunteering in a frontier pioneering"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "effort to be a leazison. We're going to"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "need a lot of people who know how to"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:57", "text": "rationally make contact with these"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "civilizations and the future of humanity"}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "and the earth could hang in the balance"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "on that. I'm just going to I'm just"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "going to let people think about what I'm"}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "saying here. We don't have time to"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "unpack it, but I will tell you I will"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "tell you that"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:13", "text": ">> it is of great consequence and people"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "need to master this protocol. They need"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "to understand what we're doing with C5"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:19", "text": "contact. They need to get the app and"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "they need to begin to practice. It's"}, {"start": "00:20:19", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "fun. I mean, we have so much fun going"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "out there and doing this. I mean, oh, by"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "the way, those of you who can get free"}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "to do it, we're going to allow 20 people"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:35", "text": "with us at a private"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:37", "text": "um small group here in Virginia uh in at"}, {"start": "00:20:35", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "towards the end of May. And that's up on"}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "our website, drstephvengrer.com."}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "And we're also going to be right here"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "near the University of Virginia on top"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "of a mountain. We can have 350 people"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "with us and that'll be at the end of"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:53", "text": "July. So, if you guys want to come,"}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:55", "text": "those things will fill up. But those of"}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "you hearing this now, we'll we'll those"}, {"start": "00:20:55", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "that information is up on our website."}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:02", "text": "So, you can uh check that out. And you"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "know, I would really like to ask"}, {"start": "00:21:02", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "everyone to share the link to this movie"}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "and the genius link and send it out"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:13", "text": "because we really want to be able to uh"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "get this message out to a maximum number"}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "of people at this exact moment. uh as we"}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "we now have the the president of the"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "United States ordering the disclosure of"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "these UFO files by the secretary uh war"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "heath. This is on a fast track and I"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "can't go into all what I know about it"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "but people need to be prepared and we"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "need to be prepared for any contingency."}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "So this that disclosure process could go"}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "well it could go sideways. Um, and we"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "we're making all preparations. But I"}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:49", "text": "think the general public, people always"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "say, \"What can I do?\" You can go out and"}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "be a conscious mind of reason and"}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:57", "text": "enlightenment and show another face of"}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:21:59", "text": "humanity to these extraterrestrial"}, {"start": "00:21:57", "end": "00:22:01", "text": "people. One that's peaceful, one that's"}, {"start": "00:21:59", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "enlightened, one that wants to look"}, {"start": "00:22:01", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "forward and a vision of the world"}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:10", "text": "becoming part of an interstellar"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "coalition down the road. 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And and and this is where"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "it gets into a very risky business"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "uh right now, where if it comes out"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "incorrectly or with a lot of that"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "[music] false mythology combined with"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "the truth,"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "um then we're going to have our work cut"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "out for us. This disclosure project is"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "going to have to lean into that very"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "heavily."}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "Right. And so, all the public, you know,"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "all you guys need to be writing to your"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "to the president and your members of"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "Congress, and if you're in another"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "country, your your members of your"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "parliament or prime minister and saying,"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:36", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:38", "text": ">> you know, you really need to get to the"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "bottom of this, but here's a link to the"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "briefing document. Because this briefing"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "document we did for this president we"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "have published, as you all know,"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:46", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:49", "text": ">> and you can, you know,"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "send those people a copy,"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "which you should, [music] actually."}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "Right. Um someone's asking if you had"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "debriefed representative Burchett, but"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "you have provided a lot of intelligence"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "to him."}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "Oh, yeah, many. Oh, yeah, for years."}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "Yeah, I've I've been providing"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "information to him for"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "4 years. [music]"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "I don't know, a long time. Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "Well, and he's, you know, he he is dive"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "or deep dive and then Congress and"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "Burleson. Now, I've also met with uh"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "Ogles"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "of uh Missouri and"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "um you know, I've had long discussions"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "with Moskowitz, who's a Democrat in"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "Florida, who's on the House Oversight."}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "So, yes, of course. I mean um the people"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "who are right hand to Marco Rubio I've"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "worked with for two or three years and"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:40", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:43", "text": ">> he's now Secretary of State National"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "Security Advisor. He's wearing two hats."}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "So, um"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "yeah, there there there's a there's a"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "lot of information that has been given"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "[music] directly by me meeting with"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "these people. I'm here in Washington"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "now. I'm here because Demi Lovato"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "Thursday night was playing at the"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "uh Capital One Arena."}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:01", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:03", "text": ">> It was packed. It was great and"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "she's a very big supporter of CE5 and"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "what we're doing in disclosure. So, I"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "went backstage and we hung out for a"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "while before her show and then I got I"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "got to see her show. I'd actually never"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "seen her perform. She has an amazing"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "voice. I always tell people, don't"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "forget Avi Loeb has been lobbying"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "for him to receive a $1 billion"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "of our tax dollars to set up a planetary"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "defense system against the"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "the aliens. Now, he's a total shill for"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "this corrupt secret government. And so,"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "I tell people, I say, consider"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:35", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:37", "text": ">> the freaking source, all right? Somebody"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "who is making up nonsense like that,"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "scare tactics, to try to get gullible"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "people in the government to pony up a"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "billion dollars for something we do not"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "need and wouldn't work even if we needed"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "it. You know, what does he think he's"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "going to put up there? I mean, these"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "civilizations are so advanced that they"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "were hostile, we'd be gone. Even"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "Congressman Burchett said that a couple"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "years ago. 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I think"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "that was the plan in 1953, '54 when that"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "was discussed and I think it's what"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "they've been working ever since. So,"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "that's the other risk of disclosure is"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "that it gets hijacked by those"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "sociopathic and psychotic"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "uh"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "and tendencies."}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "Uh and they either turn the UFOs,"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "[music] if they can't turn them into"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "invading aliens, they'll turn them into"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "demons or something. 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[music]"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "So, this is the risk of this coming out"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "incorrectly and I've been warned about"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "that since the '90s."}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "Um it's why I wrote the paper in 1999"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "when disclosure serves secrecy. In other"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "words, seek serves the secret"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "government. It has to be done properly"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "and carefully, hopefully with a positive"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "view of the future, a positive view of"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "contact, CE-5 contact,"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:23", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:24", "text": ">> but also a positive view of a payday, a"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "peace dividend for"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "these technologies that would"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "revolutionize the world and and create a"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "whole new world uh without any poverty"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "or pollution in one generation. It would"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "be a whole new planet. 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Um"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "there were people who intercepted her"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "who were the CIA and military who told"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "[music] her never to listen to anything"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "I had to say and that I was a Russian"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "foreign agent, that I was a spy for it's"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "all this stuff, which of course in and"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "of itself is a felony to say that and to"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "uh deter an investigation by an official"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "in the government based on a absolutely"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "false statement. But um"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "it yes, of course. 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I should write one"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "called The Art of Deception because that"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "is really what 90 plus percent of"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "everything out there on this subject is"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "[music] and it it's it's not what I"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "thought in 1990, but 36 years later, I'm"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "going, \"Wow, boy, this"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "what what most 90% of what most people"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "believe about this subject is absolutely"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "been uh a deceptive operation, a false"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "flag operation. 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They would"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "all know that. They just goes there no"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "fumes coming out of the tailpipe of your"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "electric Tesla car doesn't mean it's all"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "that eco."}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "I mean, this is the pseudo"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "environmentalist"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "uh movement where they think they have a"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "solution. You're walk taking one step"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "forward and another half step back, you"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "know, but I think that's a real issue"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "because uh"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "there will be over time a displacement"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "of certain people in the energy sector,"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "but those same people could be retrained"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "to full out manufacture"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "uh these new energy systems. And let's"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "not forget"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "3 billion people on the planet don't"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "even have any means of energy to cook"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "their food. That's a true statistic. The"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "The Economist magazine came out with"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "that a couple years ago. Well, 3 billion"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "people have nada."}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "So, most of the world, I mean, we're so"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "narcissistic living in our"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "you know, rich world environment. Most"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "of the world, half the world doesn't"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "have barely [music] anything. So,"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "imagine the kind of of of expansion of"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "global economy that'll happen. But, it"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "has to be guided. There have to be"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "protections [music]"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "and retraining for people displaced and"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "who are in the conventional energy"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "sector, including public utilities"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "because all of those will go bankrupt."}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "You know, if you can have something that"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "fits on your table that runs your whole"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "house"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "cut your line to the power grid, you"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "don't need a grid."}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "But, see, that's a huge part of the"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "economy."}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "But, so I think that all is something"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "that when people go what's after all"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "this disclosure, I said this is what's"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "after. What we should have done in the"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "'50s or even '20s with the Tesla"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "technology"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:39", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:41", "text": ">> and retooled our entire civilization, we"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "got to do it now. But now that the world"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "is"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "much more populated, much more dependent"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "on conventional fossil fuels and nuclear"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "and whatnot,"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "it's a big undertaking. It would be like"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "the Marshall Plan that rebuilt Europe a"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "thousand times bigger than that."}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "And so, it's a huge undertaking. So,"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "yes, there are massive economic uh"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "implications, which is one of the"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "reasons for the secrecy. And one of the"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "reasons why they don't want to"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "acknowledge we have that technology"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:09", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:11", "text": ">> because they nobody you know, I it's"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "interesting back when uh"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "uh Bush, Baby Bush, George W. Bush was"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "president, I was meeting the White House"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "is right here."}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "I can see and I was meeting at the"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "University Club with this old hand who"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "was in the Bush family."}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "This old guy, he says, \"Look, whether"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "you're liberal or conservative, when you"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "get into 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, the"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "White House, you govern as a"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "conservative, meaning to conserve the"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "status quo because the change attendant"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "to what this is, if it's done properly,"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "is huge. It's an enormous undertaking."}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "We're talking a retooling and a"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "recreation of the entire energy grid and"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "technological basis that runs the entire"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "planet Earth. So, yes, it's huge. And"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "then on top of it, you got to figure out"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "how do you make peaceful contact with"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "these civilizations? So, yes, it I mean,"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "I tell people"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "an official disclosure on this is when"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "things really start."}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "You know, really that's where our work"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "is going to get cut out for us."}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "Mhm. Right?"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "Right. And I mean, really"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:21", "text": ">> that in mind."}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "I'll add it to my list."}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:26", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:28", "text": ">> In our spare time."}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "Right."}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "Yeah, so it it really comes down to a"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "courage issue for our leadership."}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "Pretty much, right?"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:38", "text": ">> it you got to"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead,"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "and do it. But, you know, it is hard"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "because I think that's why"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "uh I know"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "there have been a number of times where"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "this almost could have come out and a"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "lot of the leaders get together and"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "they're warned, uh too much change, too"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "much"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "too many implications, too many third"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "and fourth order effects. Um you know,"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "eventually oil won't be needed for"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "anything but plastics and, you know,"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "synthetics. Not for energy. And"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "um you know, you look at all the public"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "utilities and power lines and all those"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "companies. That's gone That's going to"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "be gone."}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "And eventually, in the second phase of"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "this,"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "when you bring out the anti-gravity, all"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "the surface roads will be gone."}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "Right. Well, look at how many trillions"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "are spent globally on"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "digging up and paving over the earth so"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "we can roll along like we did in horse"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "and buggies, but we just our own cars."}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "That'll go away. It's I mean it's you"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "cannot overstate"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "how what the implications of this"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "are. And and and that's one of the"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "reasons why it's been kept secret."}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "People need to understand it. You know,"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "I I I recall this"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:50", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:53", "text": ">> comical story. I was with"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "back in 1993"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "in uh"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "September."}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "I was with Laurence Rockefeller at the"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "Rockefeller Ranch uh in the Tetons, the"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "Grand Tetons."}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "And they owned that whole range and gave"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "it to the US government as a gift. But,"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "they kept out this beautiful uh ranch,"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "you know, with a lake and all that and"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "lodge."}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "And I was there and late one night I was"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "out on the deck"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "uh with Laurence Rockefeller, who was"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "the brother David"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "Rockefeller, Chase Manhattan Bank, which"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "is now JP Morgan Chase."}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "Uh, and his his nephew was Jay"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "Rockefeller, Senator Rockefeller,"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "chairman of Senate Intelligence. So, but"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "he was the philanthropist in the family."}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "You know, he redid Williamsburg,"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "Virginia, and the Esalen Institute, all"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "these [music] things."}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "And we were talking, and"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "you know,"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "he he'd pull me aside. He says, \"You do"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "realize"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "that if all [music] this comes out,"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "there'll be no aspect on of life on"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "Earth that won't be affected. So vast"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "and so profound are the implications.\" I"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "said, \"Yes, Lawrence, that's why it's"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "been kept so ruthlessly secret. It isn't"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "because it's trivial or ha ha ha little"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "gray men or little gray men. It's"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "because the implications are enormous."}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "And I realized that very early on in"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "night early '90s after I did a deep dive"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "on this, and then you know, realized"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "what would be so important about this"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "that they would keep it secret from the"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "president of the United States, where"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "they would kill a president of the"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "United States like Kennedy, where they"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "would do all this stuff. It's because"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "these oligarchs run the planet with the"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "current"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "energy and financial system do not want"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "this out."}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:40", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:43", "text": ">> Even if it means destroying the"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "biosphere and leaving half the world in"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "terrible poverty, which can only lead to"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "war and terrorism because of the have"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "and have-nots. So, I I think that, you"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "know, it it's a very big issue, and"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "we're going to have to speak to it"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "clearly, but not induce panic. And then"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "the governments, look, we pumped out $10"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "trillion"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "the prop the the the economy up during"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "COVID for something that was nominally"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "worse than a bad flu season."}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "We can certainly make this transition"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "if we put our heads together. But it"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "does have to be looked at on a very"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "multi-disciplinary technological,"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "macroeconomic, financial"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "dollar system, energy systems,"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "the commodities markets, the stock"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "markets."}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "Um no, I've thought all of this through."}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "I mean, I don't leave any stone"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "unturned, but those conversations have"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "we've talked about them. I've talked"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "about them for years."}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "But then at some point when all this"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "comes out, that it's going to have to be"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "joined seriously, right? [music]"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "Cuz it's a whole new world, you know,"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "and that's what the ET told Colonel"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "Corso when he says, \"What's in it for"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:57", "text": "me?\" with all these that ET said, \"A new"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "world if you can take it.\""}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "That was 1956."}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "I was a toddler. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "So, I tell people, \"Hey, it's time for"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "us to take it.\""}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "You know? I was a little red-headed"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "toddler running around. So, I think that"}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "I think that's why we have to"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "uh you know, be understand that this is"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "a vast undertaking. [music]"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "And you know, I"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "I actually need to probably speak more"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "to that, but you know,"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "I don't want to get too far ahead of"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "where most people are. Most audiences"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "that I address are just trying to learn"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "that there are"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:33", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:36", "text": ">> real UFOs that are non-human and there"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "are man-made ones and there's all these"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "complex disinformation program. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "you're really trying to get everyone up"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "to a certain level of"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:47", "text": "one and one is two"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "before you do calculus, advanced"}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "calculus. So,"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "uh but I think that once this begins to"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "be more officially confirmed, I think"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "we're on that track, then we're really"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "going to have our work cut out, all of"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "us."}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:20:59", "text": ">> [snorts]"}]

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Not because of him, just cuz of"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "the confluence of things going on with"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "law enforcement, Pentagon, the Senate,"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "the House, disclosure in general. He"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "happens to be"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "in the office of the presidency when all"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "this is almost certainly going to break."}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "that"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "if it's handled badly,"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "it'd be ruinous. It'll be a thousand"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "times worse than the mismanagement of"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "COVID or what have you or the missteps"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "that led up to 9/11. On the other hand,"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "if it's handled well,"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "it would be a unifying and pivotal"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "moment in human history."}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "And so, what we're waiting to see and"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "what I say to people who are very close"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "to the president, people who spend time"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "privately with him,"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "that"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "he needs to get this one right. Now,"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "the other thing I think people have to"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "be you know, not have too high"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "expectations right away"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "because he has not spent time"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "delving into this. And neither has vice"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "president. The vice president admitted a"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "few weeks ago on the Benny Johnson show"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "that he wanted to know about this as"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "soon as he took office, but he's been"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "too busy and has not done an in-depth"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "um study of it."}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "This is why"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "the president has assigned this to Hags"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "death, the the secretary of war as they"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "call it now. Um"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "wonder when we'll have a secretary of"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "peace. That would be nice. But a"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "secretary of universal peace, that's"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "what we need. [music] Uh but, I think"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "that someday, and God willing."}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "So, I think that the uh"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "one of the things we're we're doing, and"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "we've just done, is to get a briefing"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "materials over to"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "uh Secretary Heggstad, as well as to the"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "Vice President. Um we've already"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "provided those materials to people to"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "the President, people close to him, and"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "to members of Congress. But, the point"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "person appears to be the sec- Secretary"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "Heggstad. But, of course, we have this"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "[music] in mess in the in Iran"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "and the Middle East. So, you know, I'm"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "sure his plate is very full. So, I'm"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "telling people, you know, even though"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "the President yesterday literally"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "yesterday in Phoenix said what these are"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "these"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "things are going to come out very, very"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "soon. [music]"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "I'm wondering why because uh"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "now, I I will say without I don't want"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "to betray any confidences that are"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "sensitive. I do know in the last"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "year plus,"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "there are people in the system based on"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "the information we provided and some of"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "the military people working with us who"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "have gone out in the field and gotten"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "more assets and whistleblowers and what"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "have you, that they know a great deal"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "more than they're saying, including the"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "President."}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "And and"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "the DNI, the Director of National"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "Intelligence, and a few others. So,"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:20", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:22", "text": ">> the question is how much of that will"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "they reveal?"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "I know that"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "uh Bob Bigelow, Bigelow Aerospace,"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "that's now closed,"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "has recommended, he's very good friends"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "with the President, that he not that he"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "do a soft disclosure and leave most of"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "the information out because people like"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "him who were involved in"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "uh projects that have turned out to be"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "quite illegal"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "and have squandered a lot [music] of tax"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "dollars."}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "I think they don't want the whole story"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "to come out, including the fact that we"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "have been building with um black budget"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "funds without the approval of the"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "Congress or the president for decades"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "the man-made UFOs by reverse engineering"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "them. Now, this is a"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "multi-trillion-dollar"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "problem over the last the 70 years or so"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "since Eisenhower was pushed aside in the"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "mid uh 1950s. So, I you know, the"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "question is"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "how much of that will they acknowledge"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "and and how much of the information they"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "disclose will be things that look scary"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "that aliens did that were actually done"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "by psychological warfare operations out"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "of the CIA working with these corporate"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "aerospace giants that that we know"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "about. So, this is what I'm watching for"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "and believe me, we may have another"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "press conference [music]"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "you know, it depends, you know, what"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "comes out and we will have to analyze it"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "very carefully and point out the things"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "that are misdirects or wrong"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "information. And honestly, I don't think"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "it would be done deliberately by Mr."}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "Heckstall or the president. It's because"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "they simply don't"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "Frankly, they need a subject expert."}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "And I have offered to to help guide them"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "through that, but I think what happens"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "these things tend to happen very hastily"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "uh without enough thought and without"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "enough research. [music]"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "And because everyone on this call knows"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "how much most of the information on the"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "subject has been deliberately curated"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "for the false information and inside"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "this sort of haystack of disinformation"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "are the gold nuggets"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "in there, but you really got to know"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "what you're doing. And and every one of"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "these people because there are people"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "who are on our on our team who are"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "friends, personal friends with Secretary"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "Heckstall and the vice president and the"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "president. And so, I know for a fact"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "that none of them have had"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "adequate"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "uh"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "information and perspective and analysis"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "done."}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "So, it's going to be interesting"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "you know, to to see what this first"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "tranche is and if it combines"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "information [music] with disinformation,"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "we're going to have to go very public"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "with correcting that. And of course, I'm"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "not shy about doing so, but um No."}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "No, not at all."}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "No, I'll go mano a mano with anybody"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "anywhere"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "for the truth and I think that it we"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "have to be that way. Now, you know,"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "uh other people that I'm talking to who"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "are in who are [music]"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "in Europe uh"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "and elsewhere believe that they'll be"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "very little revealed because they"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "haven't really"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "uh spent the time to get to the bottom"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "of it and"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:35", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:37", "text": ">> um you know, will it just be another"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "bunch of sighting reports and maybe some"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "photos or videos. And of those, are"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "those going to be man-made ones or"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "non-human ones?"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "And does anyone who's looking at them"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "know the difference?"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "Right."}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:50", "text": ">> Now, everyone listening to this knows"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "the difference, [music]"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "but you're you're making a huge mistake"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "if you think that this is been drilled"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "down as well as it should [music] be by"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "these extremely busy people who are at"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "the head of the US government, right?"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "Now, the people who have really had time"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "to drill down on this more are certain"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "members of Congress that I've been"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "meeting with for"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "three, four years. And and"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "in that case, they have [music] a much"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "deeper understanding and and some a"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "couple of them have been speaking with"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "the president, but only in 5, 10,"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "15-minute intervals. So, you know, what"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "I don't know is"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "um the extent of the depth of the"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "knowledge and what that will reflect in"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "the disclosure that that the president"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "referred to yesterday, but we'll see."}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "Um and we just have to be ready to"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "you know, respond."}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "The same companies that have been"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "running these so-called illegal legacy"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "programs also provide all the"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "conventional jets and hardware and"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "rockets [music] and and surveillance"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "tools and the B-2 stealth is Northrop"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "Grumman. So,"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "people have to be realistic. How how"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "much can you bite the hand that's"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "feeding you if in fact you're very"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "dependent because the US government are"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "filled with bureaucrats who don't do"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "anything. They don't make anything. It's"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "all contractors. 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The government"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "should really uh we the people should be"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "[music] in control, but it's actually"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "the large corporate multinational"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "corporations."}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "But those same corporations"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "the entire defense industry [music]"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "and the"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "Department of of Defense and everything"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "they want to do is dependent on that"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "hardware and equipment coming from the"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "same companies"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "that have been running these illegal"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "programs. 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That is the worst-case"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "scenario. So, you know, I said to one"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "person recently here in Washington, \"If"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "you have been using that technology"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "criminally against [music] innocent"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "civilians, not just here but all over"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "the world, you have forfeited the right"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "to keep that secret. That cannot be kept"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "secret.\""}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "So, but now Bob Bigelow, who's been"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "spending time with the president and was"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "in the private quarters of Mar-a-Lago on"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "election night and things like that,"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "they're advising otherwise, right? And,"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "you know, I'm a relatively nobody. Um"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "so,"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "you know, all I all we can do is keep"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "telling the truth um"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "and uh putting it out there and then and"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "then have"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "enough education that we're doing that"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "people in Congress and uh other people"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "who've been in the military like General"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "Flynn and others are learning this and"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "saying and reinforcing what we're"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "saying. 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Years ago"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "uh one of the early disclosure witnesses"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "was a guy named"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:41", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:43", "text": ">> he would had been military intelligence"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "United Kingdom named Gordon Creighton"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "and he published Flying Saucer Review"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "FSR"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:48", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:49", "text": ">> um"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "which"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "um was a very good journal."}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "And he told me that yes, there had been"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "people that if they're too much trouble"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "will be erased and and and removed and"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "he knew of those. 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It's not just one And so,"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "everyone's still looking at it it with a"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "geopolitical map in their head. And I"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "said, \"No, you need to look at this as a"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "criminal transnational"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "organization.\" It's a TINKO,"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "transnational criminal organization. Uh"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "like large, you know, international drug"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "cartels or large international human"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "trafficking cartels. 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If"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "you wanted to invent a free energy"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "device and thought you could keep it"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "secret and patent and move to Brazil,"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "there"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "their assets in the Brazilian jar,"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "they're going to come out. They're going"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "to kill you. I mean, this is a global"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "operation and there is no For this"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "organization, there are no national"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "boundaries. They just move across them"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "like [music] they're not there."}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "So, I mean, by the way, even our top"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "special forces guys, I know that's what"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "they do. They can go in and out, no one"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "knows they were there. But imagine at"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "this level the kind of technology they"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "have."}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "Uh the object like uh"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "Michael Herrera saw that was a 300-ft"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "diameter octagon that went from hover to"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "100,000 mph over the horizon in 1 or 2"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "seconds. And that's man-made. So, you"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "know, you're not going to be tracked on"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "radar and you're not going to be"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "entered,"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "you know, you're not going to be"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "interdicted by uh an F-18 Hornet."}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "Right? It's not going to happen. So,"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "this is the the issue and this is"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "something we know that there have these"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "objects that are man-made UFOs have been"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "tracked in Russian airspace, in China."}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "One was actually downed in northern Iran"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "and had to be blown up on the ground in"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "situ, right where it landed."}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "And those were man-made objects that"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "were anti-grav. 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So, I think that this is"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "um"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "very complex and this is why I think at"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "some point, if there's an initial"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "release"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "that then creates more interest, there"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "should be some kind of a"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "governmental retreat where we should go"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "in and provide be the subject experts"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "to unpack all this because and it it"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "needs to be, you know, a couple of days."}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "I mean, because it's so important. Uh"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "right now, I don't see that anyone quite"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "except a few [music] members of Congress"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "uh and some people who are kind of"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "peripheral"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "to the cabinet and to the the Oval"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "Office"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "um"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "have [clears throat]"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "as deep understanding as they need. So,"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "this is [music] what I'm hoping will"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "will close that gap"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "before the train leaves the station too"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "much further."}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "Now, almost everyone I've ever briefed"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "in government, whether it was a CIA"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "director or even three-star generals at"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "the Pentagon"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "had no knowledge of it. They were never"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "read in. And so, you know, when you go"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "from having no information to this about"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "ready to be officially acknowledged by"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "the government"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "I think there is a very steep learning"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "curve, we would say, that needs to"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "happen in order for it to to occur"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "safely and appropriately and truthfully."}]

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Number one,"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "the"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "huma- humanitarian technologies, medical"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "and energy systems,"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "that would end poverty and fix the"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "environment, those need to be come out"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "as soon as possible, like 100 years ago."}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "Uh and then the other is a stand down"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "order by the president to stop the"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "targeting with these electromagnetic"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "pulse weapons [music] of the ET craft"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "and instead"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "the governments, not just United States,"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "but around the world, uh make a decision"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "to make peaceful contact with them,"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "which is what CE5 contact is."}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:02", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:04", "text": ">> And that was the original I'm wearing"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "this shirt. This is from the '90s. It's"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "the original CE5 organization, the"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "CSETI, the Center for the Study of"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "Extraterrestrial Intelligence,"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:13", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:16", "text": ">> which I founded in 1990. And the whole"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "purpose of that was to say,"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "we can be citizen ambassadors and"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "diplomats until such time,"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:24", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:26", "text": ">> and maybe even continuing so,"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "the governments of the world understand"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "that we're not alone and they need to do"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "something"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "constructive and intelligent and"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "civilized about it."}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "But in the in the past,"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "you know, presidents haven't known about"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "this subject. President Obama admitted"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "that. Clinton has admitted it. They got"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "they tried to find out and were pushed"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "aside."}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "You had all these sort of problems that"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "have happened over the years,"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:51", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:53", "text": ">> uh where there's been a decapitation of"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "the legal government, not only of the"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "United States, but of other countries,"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "because I've had meetings with ministers"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "of defense and heads of state in other"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "countries in Europe, Canada, Australia,"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "and I can tell in Japan"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:06", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:10", "text": ">> that there's no difference. It's This is"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "a global criminal covert operation. And"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "so once this comes out, one of the chief"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "things that hap- has to happen is CE5"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "contact. And so all of us doing this, in"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "a sense, we're warming up"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:23", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:26", "text": ">> the the the superconscious field when we"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "do it. And that's why By the way, in"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "late in May, we're going to have a whole"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "week"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "where we're going to be going through"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "the the deep history of everything I've"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "experienced with ET contact, but also"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:39", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:41", "text": ">> disclosure that or private stories that"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "nobody's heard."}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:44", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:47", "text": ">> Those will be recorded"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "by a two-camera shoot out at our"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "retreat center in Hot Springs. There's"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "still about 10 or 11 positions open for"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "people who want to come to that in"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "person."}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "And then it's going to be webinared or"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "streamed live streamed."}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "And then if the weather is suitable,"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "you can never know in this part of the"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "world,"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "we'll go out on the land we have there"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "and do CE5 contact at night."}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "And there are We're also going to do a"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "big event for the public for about 350"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "people on a mountain there in the Blue"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "Ridge Mountains outside of"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "Charlottesville, Virginia and at the end"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "of July. And that's going to be a"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "three-day weekend, Friday night,"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "Saturday, Sunday."}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:30", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:31", "text": ">> And we'll be up on this mountain top"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "that we have"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "all to ourselves, but it's a really"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "beautiful facility. [music] And what's"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "nice is that the daytime meetings our"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "our space is adjacent to the outside"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "terraces that are on top of this"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "mountain with a view forever, 100-mile"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "view. So it's going to be a phenomenal"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "place to do CE5 at night in late July."}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "So I hope all of you can come to that as"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "well. I think we have the site up now"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "where you can register if you want to"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "come. People confuse meditation with"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "regular thought, okay? So, let's let's"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "talk about that."}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "Meditation is a process"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:08", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:11", "text": ">> of going deeper and deeper into more"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "quiet levels of consciousness to where"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "you're only perceiving the mind itself."}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "That's the meditation. Now, meditation"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "is also used generically as thinking,"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "but that's not how I'm using it."}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "So, the meditation per se"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "is is not to think about things or"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "ideas. 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Uh, and that's"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "that's the key thing to realize is that"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "everyone right now hears me speaking and"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "they're awake, but if you were to just"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "to do sort of a Zen process of of"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "removing everything you're hearing and"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "perceiving and just shift quietly to the"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "mind itself that's awake, that's what"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "we're talking about. Going deep into"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "that. It's very simple, actually. 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I"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "think those"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "they're it's a sphere, but not all"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "spheres are from the same origin and"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "what have you."}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:24", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:27", "text": ">> So, but now if we're speaking directly"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "of all the Booga sphere type"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "ones that are being seen and there are"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "multiple ones that have been filmed up"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "close enough, you can see the same"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "equator on it, the same design on it."}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "They're identical,"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "it appears to the one that has was"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "retrieved"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "in Columbia, South America in Booga"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "by that farmer. 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I think that's the"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "[snorts and cough] perfect uh note to"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "end on today. [clears throat]"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:46", "text": ">> Um, [music]"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:48", "text": ">> yep. Obviously, we're going to keep our"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "eyes on what's coming out from"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "NewsNation on Saturday and and uh we"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "will release another podcast right after"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "that [music] to get your analysis."}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:03", "text": ">> Yes. And one comment about that. Um just"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "so people know, I I know what that team"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "has,"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "but I'm not in possession of [music] it."}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "They're in possession of it in their own"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "ops sex, operational security"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "and they're going to release it in a way"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "that they feel is safe for all [music]"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "of them"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "and then they're going to measure the"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "response. 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It's going to"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "make a lot of more sense to you when you"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "do and then listen to this podcast. Um"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "all of it is predicated on the"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "understanding that the consciousness the"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "faculty of being awake at that deep"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "level. Some people call it spiritual"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "some people call it the God factor. Some"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "people call it religious people would"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "call that the Holy Spirit that is within"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "all things. 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What we're doing is 180"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "degrees opposite. [music]"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "We're actually going out not to capture"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "anything or to gain anything selfish."}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "We're there as ambassadors [music] to"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "those civilizations, to those species."}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "And but the what's the foundation of"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "that? 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[music]"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "Now because of our proliferation of"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "weapons of mass destruction, nuclear"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "weapons, developing reverse engineered"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "technologies to target ET craft, downing"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "them, killing their personnel. Some of"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "them are still living underground,"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "trapped as prisoners,"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "which [music] people who are special"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "forces call them refugees."}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "Not quite. Uh hardly refugees. 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So"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:47", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:49", "text": ">> but I hope you guys will"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "all come who can make it here to"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "Washington. It's going to be historic."}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "Yeah, that's that's going to be"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "exciting. I I was at the very first"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "press conference"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "25 years ago. So it's"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:03", "text": ">> Yeah. coming full circle. So it's very"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "exciting."}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:04", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:07", "text": ">> Yeah, and it's all coming. 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To start a war here,"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "to look like an alien invasion there."}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "Uh you know, there's that guy Ross. Uh"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "I can't pronounce his last name who's"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "who's with that NewsNation. [music]"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "How do you say his Cothart? I've met him"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "before, but Uh Cothart. Yeah, something"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "like that. Um I have to get the"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "pronunciation right on that. Um"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "that you know, when"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "the the episode that he did on drones"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "that had this little clip of of uh"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "Mr. Barber in it."}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "He went on and on about the drones. They"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "they have to be alien."}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "Well, I heard some very bad news."}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "They aren't."}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:22", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:25", "text": ">> There's good news and bad news."}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "The bad news part of it is that"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "some of these are just obviously drones."}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "You know, very clunky. Some There are"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "some other weird things going on with"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "orbs and spheres and energy fields and"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "weird fog"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "whatever stuff."}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "Every one of those phenomena, all of"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "them, all of that phenomena,"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "we have the capabilities to hoax as"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "humans."}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "Now, let me go back"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:49", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:51", "text": ">> to what what uh head of the Lockheed"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "Skunk Works said in 1995 on his"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "deathbed, we"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "anything you can imagine, we've already"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "done it at the Skunk Works and it's not"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "out of Area 51, it's out there."}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "Now, I've been to that site. And and"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "I'll tell you that whatever you imagine"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "in terms of technological capability,"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "it's more than that."}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "It's way more than that and it crosses"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "not only uh in terms of energy and"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "propulsion, but sort of interdimensional"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "phenomenon,"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "uh systems that are interfacing with"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "uh consciousness and thought and all"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "kinds of issues. So, now all those"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "technologies could also be repurposed to"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "healing,"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "uh uh you know,"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "gathering knowledge, scientific"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "investigation, travel, trans"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "clean energy,"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "using very advanced technology to"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "reverse the damage we've already done to"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "the Earth. That is possible with these"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "technologies. So, there's a huge"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "technological pay"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:55", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:58", "text": ">> payday and a big leap forward for"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "humanity if it's used for good purposes."}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "But currently it these technologies are"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "in the hands of people who are more"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "[music] about consolidating power"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "through fear and manipulation."}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "And and that is the big change that has"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "to happen from from the these"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:13", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:15", "text": ">> uh programs that have been running amok"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "since the late 1950s."}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "So, you know, one of the things that I I"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "love is is this sort of thing. Now, this"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "is just a page out of the uh briefing"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "document for the president and and uh"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "members of Congress. It's 300 20-some"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "pages, something. Um and this has an"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "illustration and you'll see on the left"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "side [music] ET craft and on the right"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "the man-made ones. We have several pages"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "of these."}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "The reason we put that in there"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "is because most people,"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "even if you're fairly close up, if you"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "don't know what to look for,"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "you're going to think an object is alien"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "or NHI craft, non-human intelligence"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "craft, when it's actually came out of"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "the Raytheon"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:57", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:03:59", "text": ">> or it came out of the Lockheed Skunk"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "Works or Northrop Grumman."}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "And"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "if you look at the illustrations that we"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "have from our whistleblower uh T E"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "who was on a retrieval team, his first"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "retrievals were UFOs, UAPs,"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "uh that were these triangular objects"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "that were from Northrop Grumman and"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "Raytheon. They were not"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "uh alien or NHI at all."}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "So,"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "this we have known now for a very very"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "long time."}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:28", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:31", "text": ">> But what we have found is that there are"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "certain people out there who are"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "embedded counterintelligence officers"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "uh and disinformation functionaries"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:39", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:41", "text": ">> who go to members of Congress or White"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "House people or the media and say,"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "\"We don't have anything like that."}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "Therefore, anything that looks alien is"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "alien.\" And that then opens the door to"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "all the staged false alien events that"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "are scary to be rubber-stamped as NHI"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "alien when it's not."}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "And it absolutely [music] isn't. That is"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "the biggest part of the secrecy and I"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "think that is why if you look at the"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "testimony, we can show the illustration"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "of this big 300-ft diameter craft that"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "the Marine uh platoon member back in"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "2009 encountered in Indonesia, [music]"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "Michael Herrera. And if you look at that"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "craft, and I don't have it here in front"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "of me, um but"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "that thing was 300 ft across. It was"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "manned."}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "And the way it left after they were"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "almost killed, they were packaging up"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "humans in crates for using human"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "experimentation"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "back back home. And these were Americans"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "who were like"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "mercenary-type guys operating this"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "300-ft diameter craft. The way it left,"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "it was like a spark off of off of flying"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "wheel. It went It went up. Flying with a"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "little bit of"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "transformer sound, like a humming."}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "Went up and then boom, over the horizon"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "in a couple seconds."}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "At at 100,000 mph, something like that."}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "Now, that was in '09."}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "And that craft, if if it came over"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "Washington, D.C. or Los Angeles,"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "99.999999999"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "out to how many decibels, percentage of"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "the population would say, \"It's an alien"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "craft.\" So, that's why people like Ross"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "will see these images and go, \"It's got"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "to be alien.\""}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "Because they haven't gotten the"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "information"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "accurately."}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "It's a research failure on their [music]"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "part."}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "That we have technologies and however"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "far advanced"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "you think it is, as I said a moment ago,"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "it's way more. I mean, it's orders of"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "magnitude more."}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:49", "text": ">> [snorts]"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:50", "text": ">> And I do want to say this. I have met"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "more than one"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "top-secret scientist who lives and"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "breathes and and and skiffs, secure"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "compartmented information facilities, or"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "stiffs, subterranean facilities,"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "underground."}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "Um some people call them DUMBs, deep"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "underground military bases. Uh and those"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "are guys who are often plucked out of"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "high school and college"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "who have IQs north of 200,"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "who are absolute engineering [music] and"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "physics geniuses."}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "And they live most of their life working"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "on these projects in a compartmented"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "operation."}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "So, you're also dealing with some of the"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "great geniuses of the last 70 years and"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "nobody knows their name. It They're"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "They're not the people who worked on My"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "uncle worked on the lunar module with"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "with Northrop Grumman that landed on the"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "moon in 1969."}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "Uh hearing Neil Armstrong there. But"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "these are the people He was very bright."}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "But these are people who are"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "extraordinary"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:47", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:49", "text": ">> and they are pulled into those"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "operations. So, you not only have"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "illegal black budget [music] funding and"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "and you have something to study that's"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "an actual extraterrestrial device."}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "You then have a brain trust and I would"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "call it a brain drain uh from for"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "general society because it's all covert"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "and illegally covert. Uh really"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "brilliant scientists [music]"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "and some There's some of the most"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "stunningly brilliant minds I've ever"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "met. [music]"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "Unfortunately, they're being wasted"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "working in these covert programs that"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "have been benefiting not humanity one"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "bit. It's actually hurting humanity."}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "So, that's [snorts] another, let's call"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "it peace dividend or disclosure"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "dividend,"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:32", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:33", "text": ">> is that if you had that kind of"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "resources,"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "both intellectual"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "and manpower, but also financial,"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "to bend the the the"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:43", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:46", "text": ">> the the sword into a plowshare of free"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "energy. Or as a doctor, things I've seen"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "and heard about that could do amazing"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "uh technologies for for healing"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "and repairing trauma and and all kinds"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "of advanced technologies. We would"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "really in 20 years have a civilization"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "that would faintly resemble this one. It"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "would be so [music] advanced."}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "And this is, you know, how you lift"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "humanity out of the great poverty it's"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "in, but also turns away from"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "cannibalizing the Earth by destroying"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "the Earth with technologies from the"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "1800s."}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "Uh fossil fuels, oil, gas, coal, and"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "then nuclear. Wind and solar doesn't"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "have the energy density to fix the"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "problem. We covered that in The Lost"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "Century. You should go all look at The"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "Lost Century uh that documentary."}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "But you can now see it on Tubi and some"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "other places. So, I think that"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "when we look at this, [music] there's a"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "beautiful"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "new world coming,"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "but there are these problems that you"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "have to take care of."}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "Now, there are going to be a lot of"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "people want to whistle past that"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "graveyard and I think that's dangerous."}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "It's a little bit saying, \"I want to add"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "a whole new beautiful addition to my"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "house,"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "but this whole part of it that's part of"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "that house has the roof off. It's"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "leaking. The whole structure is about to"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "fall in, right? You have to do both."}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "Because we're now 70-80 years into an"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "era of secrecy"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:13", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:15", "text": ">> that's been a mistake. Everyone now"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "acknowledges that."}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "How do we get out of that with it not"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "being kinetic or violent?"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "So, [snorts] we think it can be done."}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "And I'm a man of peace and I"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "but I'm also not someone that thinks"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "[music] you let people just run amok"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "doing the things they've been doing."}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:35", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:39", "text": ">> Because things they've been doing in"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "include kidnapping, abductions,"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "targeted killings, murder,"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "embezzlement,"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "intimidations,"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "bribery, blackmail,"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "uh control of"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "freedoms [music] through the internet"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "and media"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "where people are censored at on and on"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "and on."}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "This is all related to to an attempt to"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "institute a global sort of more"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "totalitarian superstate. And the way"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "they can do that is by pointing to a"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "[music] threat from outer space. And"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "this is why my friend Carol Rosin and I"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "were talking last night."}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "Uh and he she had worked with Wernher"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "von Braun who who invented the rocket"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "for Adolf Hitler. In the last years of"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "his life, he said, \"They're going to"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "hoax a threat."}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "They're going to send"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "uh"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "you know, up objects that are going to"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "look alien and they're not. This is"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "1974, 50 [music] years ago."}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "And he said, \"It's all a lie, but that's"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "how they can consolidate power and"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "that's always been the long-term plan"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "since the '50s.\""}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "So,"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:43", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:45", "text": ">> the only way that doesn't happen is that"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "our eyes are wide open."}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "Like we just pull the curtain back"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "on the Wizard of Oz behind the curtain"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "pulling all the levers, scaring scaring"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "the hell out of everyone and say, \"Ah,"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "that's a psyop.\""}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "That's a psychological warfare"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "operation. Oh, that device that did that"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "is [music] and and and those creatures"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "on that device are exactly what's in the"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "Jacques Vallee CIA document that that he"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "he's afraid to release, but that he"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "summarized in his book in 1992 and that"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "they [music] were engaging in abductions"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "uh for psychological warfare value."}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:23", "text": ">> I um just to add to that and I mean no I"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "mean no disrespect to uh to Jacques"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "Vallee. He's a lovely guy. I got the"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "privilege of spending a lot of time with"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "him. Yes."}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:32", "text": ">> Um but uh when I reached out in 2021 and"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "and very"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "respectfully requested that document so"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "we could include it in the Cosmic Hoax,"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "he totally flipped out Yep. and became"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "irate and said that, you know, I was"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "everything that was wrong with this"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "field and and so it was a reaction that"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "made no sense to me and I I can't I'm"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "not a mind reader, but I got the"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "impression from that reaction that he"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "was scared, that he was genuinely"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "frightened. Sure. Absolutely. And and"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "and remember"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "the mechanism whereby he received that"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "document [music] was because in the '80s"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "he began to associate with some unsavory"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "people who are part of that deep illegal"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "[music] programs"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "uh legacy. And that's doubtlessly how he"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "acquired that document."}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:24", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:26", "text": ">> And so to disclose it, it could cost him"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "his life. Who knows? I mean, uh look,"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "people think this is some kind of"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "conspiracy theory. It's not. It's"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "[music] just a criminal conspiracy. And"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "you know,"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "there was something called the mafia or"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "it is and [music] and they did have hit"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "men that they killed people who would"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "blow the whistle on them."}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "Um you know, for all the people who say"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "all of this is a conspiracy theory,"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "you're about to have the wake-up of your"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "life in the next couple of months. I'll"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "tell you that."}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:53", "text": ">> Yeah, there's a reason we have RICO."}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "Exactly. [music] Racketeer Influenced"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "and Corrupt Organizations RICO was"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "exactly created by [music] the US"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "Congress and signed into law by the"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "president to take on these complex"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "criminal organizations. Well, what I'm"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "describing has been the largest"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "transnational"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "criminal organization in the history"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "known history of the of humanity. I am"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "not overstating that. Now, I'm hoping"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "and I know that this is the hope of the"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "people coming forward. They've been"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "operators, special operators, special"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "forces at these black sites. They have"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "not been the people in the C-suite, the"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "the executive suites and special"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "programs"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "directors at at Lockheed or Northrop or"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "Raytheon or"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "whoever."}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "Um [music] General Electric,"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "you know,"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "Booz Allen Hamilton, SAIC. These are all"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "I have compartmented special programs"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "that that deal with this."}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "But"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "and similarly, the parallel to that that"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "is integrated with that or similar"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "programs that are in military and"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "intelligence units"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "and then in policy positions [music]"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "where they have embedded operatives,"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "whether they be in Congress or in the"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "permanent bureaucracy of the CIA or"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "Pentagon or NSA. So, all of that is"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "there."}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "Uh it has to be investigated. Uh that"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "has to get"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "uh"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "under proper control and there have to"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "be"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "uh there has to be a stick and there has"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "to be a carrot [music] here. And and the"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "carrot is"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "you can be exonerated. You you can be"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "you know, get immunity. You get"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "protection, but you got to come"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "completely clean. So, if you're writing"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "down that's what's in this has to be in"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "in an executive order or something that"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "the Department of Justice would do. Now,"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "it's a bigger problem."}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "I don't want to complex overly com-"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "complicate this when you go OCONUS"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "outside the country of the United"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "States."}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "Now, it's another [music] whole"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "discussion because you have these"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "operations."}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "Uh"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "for example, we have the the"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "whistleblower who last year or in the"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "summer 2023,"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:04", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:06", "text": ">> uh Mr. Hecker who was down at the South"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "Pole working for Raytheon and described"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "this huge neutrino uh light array"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "technology a mile under the ice at the"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "South Pole that is not only a tracking"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "system for"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "the Earth and space, but a weapon"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "system."}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "Now, [snorts]"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "that's there. Now, that's not on US"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "soil."}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "And similarly, we have a whistleblower"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "who came forward in the first disclosure"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "project effort in 2001"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "uh who was at"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "the facility"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "uh at a base in near the Bolivian uh"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "Peruvian border when we knocked down an"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "ET craft and it crashed and he and his"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "sergeant were like the first people"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "there."}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:48", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:48", "text": ">> And he was told, \"If you talked about"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "this, we'll throw you out of a"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "helicopter and you'll be killed.\" Very"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "similar to what Michael Herrera was told"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "in '09, but this was back I believe in"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "the '80s. And uh you can read his"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "account in our um"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "in our archive. And"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "those sort of places exist on every"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "[music] continent. And they exist in the"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "oceans and they exist in in the Arctic"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "and at South Pole and they exist on and"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "on and on and on. So, this is why I keep"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "saying that [music] this is going to"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "have to quickly go from a US disclosure"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "and operation to a global one. And for"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "that, you're going to have to have a"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "certain detente and rapprochement"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "with a lot of world leaders, whether"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "they are viewed as adversaries or not."}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "But on this issue, they all need to be"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "in a coalition to [music] secure the"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "peace,"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "to cease and desist from targeting and"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "destroying extraterrestrial craft and"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "people and to create a global outreach"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "like the Close Encounters of the Fifth"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "Kind initiative, [music]"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "but a global official outreach from"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "humans,"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "not just one nation, but all of humanity"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "to these extraterrestrial civilizations"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "and extend"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "a side of ourselves that is our higher"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "angels, let's say, [music] instead of"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "just a warmongering bunch of"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "apes running around killing everything"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "we don't understand, let's begin to act"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "like a civilized people."}]

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Ukraine's focused on destroying"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "Russian supply trucks and disrupting"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "logistics in a new approach that's now"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "causing severe problems for the Kremlin."}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "As we'll see today, I want to examine"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "why this approach has experts licking"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "their finger and saying the strategic"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "winds are now blowing in Ukraine's"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "favor. We'll discover the hidden signs"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "that Ukraine is preparing for a new"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "massive counteroffensive behind the"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "scenes. And we'll ask what momentum and"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "morale actually mean in war to your"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "regular grunt and whether this advantage"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "will last for long. I'm your average"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "inferty. Let's find out. The reason why"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "Russia's supply lines are suddenly"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "collapsing is because of a key concept"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "called battlefield air interdiction or"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "BAI. It refers to the broader military"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "campaign of using air power or drone"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "strikes to isolate the battlefield. It's"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "the strategy to destroy transportation"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "arteries. BAI is about denying the enemy"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "the use of crucial logistics lines to"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "sustain immediate frontline operations."}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "Abstract concepts like BAI become"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "reality when you look at the highways"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "leading from Russia into Ukraine. They"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "are just lousy with charred husks of"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "Russian armored vehicles that now sit by"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "the side of logistics roads. Footage has"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "been flooding social media showing Eural"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "heavy recovery trucks destroyed with"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "their tires melted by drone strikes."}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "Open source analysts have counted over"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "200 strikes just on Russian logistics"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "vehicles. And this is all happening on"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "the R280 military logistics route in"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "occupied southern Ukraine. R280 links"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "Rosttovadon in Russia with occupied"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "Crimea and then it runs through occupied"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "Ukrainian cities. Ukraine has increased"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "the rate of these attacks by five-fold"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "in just a few months. How were they able"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "to do such a feat in mass production?"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "Zalinsky announced that they're already"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "mass- prodducing attack drones in four"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "European countries, Germany, the United"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "Kingdom, Denmark, the Netherlands, and"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "there are plans to expand drone"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "production into Norway and Sweden soon."}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "This would help explain how Ukraine was"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "able to quickly increase production"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "capacity like this, although a large"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "percentage of it is from Ukraine's own"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "domestic production. The Kremlin has"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "jumped on this information, though,"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "claiming that this makes Europe a party"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "to the war and that it's an escalation"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "of their involvement. Putin even went as"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "far as to publish the location of all"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "the addresses of the buildings that they"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "believe are involved in producing drones"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "in Europe for Ukraine. The reason they"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "release this information out there and"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "basically dox these companies is so that"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "Russia, if they decided to bomb those"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "buildings or sabotage them, it can now"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "claim that the information was already"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "public and out there and some random"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "person decided to bomb them, not them."}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "It's an attempt by Russia to add an"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "extra layer of plausible deniability."}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "This production ramp up has led to an"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "explosion in what's called middle range"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "strikes. So, inside Battlefield Air"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "Interdiction, BAI, is a concept called"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "mid-range strikes. They're the"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "Goldilocks of strikes. Not too close,"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "not too far. Close tactical strikes are"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "engagements between 0 to 30 km, which is"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "all of your small arms, mortars, FPV,"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "and standard artillery. Mid-range"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "strikes, however, are attacks that are"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "aimed between 30 km to roughly 200 km"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "range from the front line. These are"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "done with attack drones, glide bombs,"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "and missiles. When you think about this"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "distance of 30 to 200 km, why is that so"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "key to turning the momentum of the war"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "compared to close quarters or deep"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "strikes? But first, I'll use this"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "episode sponsor, Ground News, to analyze"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "two related stories. Ukraine is warning"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "Russia may be using Bellarus as a launch"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "pad for a new attack. One of my favorite"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "things about Ground News is that they"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "give me the fast objective facts up top."}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "Ukraine reported construction of a large"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "firing range near their border. Moscow"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "is trying to draw Bellarus into the war"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "according to them. With my vantage plan,"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "ground news tells me the majority of the"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "28 sources are left-leaning, which means"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "that the right might have missed this"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "story. The dashboard tells me which"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "sources are high in factuality, so that"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "I'm able to avoid fake news. The second"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "story shows that Russia published a list"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "of buildings in Europe that they claim"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "were aiding drone manufacturing,"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "essentially threatening to attack"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "Europe. It's useful in my research to"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "visually see the bias of each source and"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "who owns the media companies for these"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "stories. I know you guys are going to"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "love Ground News so much that they're"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "offering you 40% off the same Vantage"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "plan that I use. Just click my link in"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "the description or go to"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "ground.news/cappy"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "or scan the QR code to bring it down to"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "just five bucks a month. What makes"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "middle range strikes so special? It's"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "because this is exactly the distance"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "where troops rotate out to to take time"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "off. It's where troops safe houses are"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "located. Russian soldiers rotate off the"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "front line back to their house or"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "apartment building in this distance."}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "This is close enough that they can drive"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "about 30 to 40 minutes to get to the"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "front line positions, but far enough"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "away that it's safe from artillery"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "strikes. So, safe houses are usually not"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "worth sending a multi-million dollar"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "high Mars missile at. It's an"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "uncomfortable open secret in the war"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "that both armies use apartment buildings"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "near the front as safeouses."}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "Decompression from the fear and the"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "adrenaline is vital to soldiers morale."}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "Middle- range strikes remove any feeling"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "of safety for Russian troops. Ukraine"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "now fires over 160 of these middle-"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "range strikes per month, hitting"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "logistics and ammo depots. They hit"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "drone control points and command posts."}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "It's hard to appreciate how massive this"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "change really is when you think about"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "four times the amount of strikes"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "compared to February. If scaling"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "continues, Russia could face around 320"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "strikes next month. To put the change"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "into context, the new mid-range drones"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "have a payload of about 220 lb, 10 times"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "more powerful and accurate than"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "artillery shells. Great new man-made"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "horrors beyond my comprehension. In the"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "past year, Ukraine opened up a whole new"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "world of targets that they're worth"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "going after now. They can now trade"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "cheap drones to destroy simple supply"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "trucks that would have simply not been"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "worth multi-million dollar missiles"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "before. And Ukraine is moving fast after"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "its first mention in 2023. By 2025, the"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "FP2 was already in regular use. This has"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "allowed it to saturate Russia's rear"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "logistics with constant fire. It was so"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "effective that one Ukrainian"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "manufacturer said that they're currently"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "converting deep strike drones into"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "middle strike drones by adding more"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "communication systems, autog guidance,"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "and smaller fuel tanks, and larger"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "warheads. So, middle range is the"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "priority right now. Because Ukraine is"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "hitting everything that's feeding"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "Russia's front line, that constant"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "pressure is causing some serious"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "problems for the Russian army. Ukrainian"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "drone operators say that before middle-"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "range strike campaign went into full"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "gear, Russia was holding large portions"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "of their supplies and ammunition in the"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "range of between 60 to 80 km back from"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "the front line. But now they've had to"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "push all of their supplies twice the"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "distance away to 120 km away. When"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "you're talking about having to feed"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "Russian artillery teams to match their"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "rate of fire of about 10 to 15,000"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "rounds a day during surge fighting,"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "every additional kilometer moved back"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "from the front is a huge cost. Getting"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "batteries for your FPV drone means that"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "you have to go further back. Now, what"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "that means is it slows down the pace of"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "the assault. Road trips are not fun when"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "you're dodging drones. The increased"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "distance means that you're more likely"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "to get a flat tire from the artillery"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "shrapnel driving there. road conditions"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "cause vehicle suspensions to need"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "maintenance every couple of months. All"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "the stuff that they leave out of the war"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "movies. And it appears it's only going"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "to escalate from here because the US"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "government just signed off on a $370"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "million deal authorizing sending JDAM"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "extended range glide bomb kits to"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "Ukraine. It would send 1,500 of these"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "glide bombs to Ukrainian fighter jets to"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "fire at targets up to 75 kilometers away"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "with 500 pound bombs. This is the kind"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "of weapon system you send to support"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "offensive operations. I want you to look"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "at Russia's supply lines across its land"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "bridge here in Crimea. Here is where"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "logistical lines are being squeezed into"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "narrow corridors. Take a look at the"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "vital M14 highway. Geollocated footage"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "shows Ukrainian forces striking Russian"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "trucks along this route on the H20"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "highway. The attacks have forced Herasan"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "Oblast's occupation head Vladimir Soldo"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "to sign a decree restricting the"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "movement of civilian vehicles to only"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "Russian military vehicles here. As a"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "result, Russia's having an even harder"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "time resupplying its entire southern"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "grouping of forces. A Russian affiliated"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "mill blogger complained that restricting"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "civilian trucks makes it more difficult"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "for them because now Ukraine knows every"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "vehicle on the highway is a military"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "target. don't have to worry about"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "hitting civilians if there are no"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "civilians. The rise of middle- range"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "strikes reveals a change in the"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "innovation cycle in war. Artillery once"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "accounted for 70% of casualties on the"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "battlefield. It's drones that now"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "account for at least 70% of battlefield"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "deaths. And we can see the impact on the"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "middle- range strikes on the tactical"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "level. Everyone was shocked when"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "Ukraine's 129th heavy mechanized brigade"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "went on the offensive, assaulting the"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "town of Ojin in Harke. Armored vehicles"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "pushed forward under artillery fire."}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "Drone strikes blasted Russian soldiers"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "out of trenches. Ukrainian infantry"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "cleared out fortified fighting"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "positions. When it was all said and"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "done, it recaptured the town in 22 km"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "with it. And it wasn't a one-off."}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "Ukraine's ground forces recaptured 400"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "km largely from the southern sector of"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "Zaparisia. Further east, soldiers retook"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "the city of Kian just when it looked"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "like it was about to fall to Russia."}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "These are just a few of the mounting"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "signs that the momentum of the war is"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "shifting. Only a few months ago, all of"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "this was unthinkable. Russia's annual"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "summer offensive appeared like it would"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "continue to inevitably grind forward."}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "Few looked at the grim situation with"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "any kind of real optimism. But the"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "clearest indication of a shift came in"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "April when the war hit a major"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "milestone. Moscow lost more territory"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "than they gained for the first time in 2"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "years, a net negative of 116 km. And to"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "put that into a unit of measurement that"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "we can all understand, that's about"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "30,000 football fields. Over the past"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "year, Ukrainian forces have slowed"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "Russia's advance to a crawl. When a"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "shift in the battlefield happens, the"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "first one to notice are your regular"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "grunts. Ukrainian officer Curillo"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "Andureno, who stationed in Zaparisia,"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "told CNN he is finally sensing a shift,"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "saying, quote, \"We can see and feel how"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "the mood among the Russian troops on the"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "front line is changing. They are"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "exhausted. We have managed to turn the"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "tide. End quote. Momentum in war is"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "something that is in the air. It's not"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "tangible. You can't touch it. Can't"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "count it like tanks or missiles, but"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "it's an undeniable feeling that troops"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "can always sense. It's like it's like"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "how when you wake up one morning and you"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "sense it's almost summer. It's almost"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "pumpkin latte time of year. When experts"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "say the war is turning in Ukraine's"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "favor, they're not always talking about"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "recapturing villages or square"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "kilometers. They're really talking about"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "Russia's forces slowly losing the"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "ability to sustain the war at the same"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "intensity and momentum. When we hear"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "talk about battlefield initiative, what"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "does that buzzword really even mean? It"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "means your army can choose the time and"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "place and tempo of the fight. A shift in"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "momentum has already happened in this"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "war about six times in the past where"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "one side goes on the offensive and then"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "the other side goes on the offensive."}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "And one indicator that the Ukrainian"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "military is preparing for a new kind of"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "counteroffensive for the first time"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "since 2023 is that the whole force is"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "undergoing its largest transformation"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "behind the scenes. And few people know"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "about the change and what it actually"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "means. The Ukrainian army has started"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "switching from a system of loose"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "brigades with little coordination to a"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "new command level of army core. The"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "concept puts about five brigades or"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "80,000 Ukrainian troops, all their drone"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "units, artillery guys, infantry,"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "intelligence officers under one unified"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "command for the first time. The new"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "roughly 18 to 20 something different"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "cores each report to one of four"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "regional commands. It's a clear sign"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "that Ukraine is preparing to regain"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "operational maneuver warfare capability."}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "Each core will likely get their own exo"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "officer added to their chain of command"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "that you're pretty sure doesn't actually"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "do anything, but you can't really prove"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "it. For example, the Azav Brigade and"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "13th Operational Brigade, instead of"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "acting completely separately, may have a"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "supreme commanderin-chief in their"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "headquarters that is directing their"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "overall strategy. It's like a grand"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "strategy for lower level units. What it"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "means is Ukraine is finally moving away"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "from the old Soviet era model to a NATO"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "style command. This allows for joint"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "planning between brigades for the first"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "time. For example, the 16th Army Corps"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "is responsible for those offensive"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "operations in Arke. And this allows them"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "to plan localized counterattacks more"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "easily. And that's what the new"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "counteroffensive would look like. Small"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "attacks along the front line instead of"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "a massive push straight into a prepared"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "enemy drone swarm. The old brigade"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "centric army was good for holding front"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "lines and plugging gaps. Now they will"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "be able to coordinate assault actions."}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "Ukraine is now offense maxing their"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "army's organization. Another indicator"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "that Ukraine is preparing for localized"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "counterattacks is that in 2026, Ukraine"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "started building two new mechanized"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "brigades, the 160th and the 50th."}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "They're converting old light infantry"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "formations into mechanized units that"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "ride into battle. Light infantry is"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "useful for holding the front line, not"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "assaulting a town. What that means is"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "that it's highly unusual to build out"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "new mechanized infantry formations like"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "this if you're only planning for static"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "trench warfare. These are offensive"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "tools that Ukraine's building out."}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "However, severe manpower and equipment"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "shortages have slowed these efforts"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "down. This change came at an important"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "time because in the last year, Ukraine"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "started losing a disproportionate amount"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "of self-propelled artillery vehicles to"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "Russia's middle- range attack drones."}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "300 Ukrainian self-propelled artillery"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "pieces were damaged or destroyed. But"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "the new phase of the war has shown how"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "tubed artillery is getting pushed"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "further and further out of these war"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "zones. Beyond hitting logistics, these"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "mid-range drones have been particularly"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "effective at hunting Russian air defense"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "systems and radar systems. This in turn"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "has had a knock-on effect. It's cleared"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "the path for what's known as deep"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "strikes inside Russia and Moscow. And"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "this has allowed for weapons to hit"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "Russia's rear where they produce"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "missiles. The battlefield is like a Rube"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "Goldberg machine. It's connected in"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "sometimes bizarre patchwork of ways. And"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "if one balloon doesn't pop or lighter"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "doesn't go off, then the whole thing can"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "start to break down. This shift has"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "caused a clear increase in Ukrainian"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "soldiers morale. In military science,"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "you could call this battlefield"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "momentum. And it's taught to commanders."}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "Military experts like Clausuits wrote"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "that morale is one of the most important"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "subjects that permeates the whole being"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "of war. Clausitz talked about how"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "psychology of regular soldiers can mean"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "the difference between defeat and"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "victory. I know a lot of people think"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "it's probably hacky of me to quote"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "Klausowitz and maybe it is, but there's"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "a lot of concepts he goes over that are"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "very applicable to this massive shift"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "that's happening in Ukraine right now."}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "He warned against only looking at"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "physical force or counting tanks and"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "counting kilometers. Little symbolic"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "things can drastically alter the frame"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "of mind of soldiers. When the Ukrainian"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "war became longer than World War II and"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "less than 1% of territory had been"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "captured since 2023, this was a major"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "turning point in the minds of many"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "Russian troops. A very recent and"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "extremely clear example of how important"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "troop morale can be was from Afghanistan"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "in 2021. Because on paper, the Afghan"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "army should have because on paper the"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "Afghan army should not have collapsed"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "that fast. They had 300,000 personnel,"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "modern armor, billions in US training."}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "But once Kabul started falling, morale"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "collapsed faster than combat power."}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "Entire units started surrendering"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "without major fighting. This is an"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "extreme example of morale, but it helps"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "explain why you should never get too"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "fixated on counting tanks and"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "kilometers. The place where morale and"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "momentum meet our manpower. A surge of"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "manpower can turn a war around. The war"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "in Iraq saw violence levels collapse in"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "part because of huge surge of troops."}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "However, the opposite can happen when"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "manpower issues get worse. The middle"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "range strikes and these offensive"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "actions have increased Russia's rate of"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "attrition. Manpower and recruitment are"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "becoming a problem for the Kremlin."}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "Ukraine has come up with the new way to"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "reduce the manpower advantage. They came"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "up with a campaign to kill or wound"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "50,000 Russian troops per month. Then"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "they gified it so soldiers get points"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "for every confirmed kill. They can"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "redeem the points to buy more advanced"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "drones and I'm guessing an offensive"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "amount of non-stop. Their energy drink"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "economy has no joke surged by 50% since"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "the start of the war. Don't get me"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "wrong, it's a very important question to"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "try to figure out exactly how many"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "casualties there are in the war for both"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "armies. But in this case, for our"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "purposes, examining the momentum of the"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "war, that's not the focus. We don't need"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "to know the exact casualty figures. The"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "focus for us is simply whether Russia is"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "taking more casualties than they are"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "recruiting. For the entire war, Russia"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "has had a monthly casualty rate that"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "they could simply shrug off with"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "indifference. They were able to replace"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "each loss with a steady supply of fresh"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "recruits that were incentivized by"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "extremely high bonuses. But now evidence"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "shows that the casualty rate is creeping"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "up and retention and recruitment is"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "creeping down. Russia is now struggling"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "to match this rate with fresh recruits."}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "Most open- source analysts have"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "concluded that they're losing more than"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "their recruiting. Most analysts put the"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "numbers at somewhere around 30,000"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "troops being recruited per month and"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "roughly 35,000 lost each month."}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "Estimates are that over 350,000 Russian"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "troops have died in the war. According"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "to the National Security Journal,"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "Russian forces have lost more soldiers"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "than it can replace by May 2026, which"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "marks the fifth consecutive month where"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "Russian forces are unable to recruit"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "more than they've lost. This kind of"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "high casualty rate has a negative impact"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "on troops morale. What is the morale"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "experience for the average Russian"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "soldier today? A 24-year-old Russian"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "soldier was fighting in the Dumbos last"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "year and he deserted from his unit and"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "spoke to the New York Times about it,"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "saying they spent a month trying to"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "establish a foothold in a small town"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "outside of Poke Rok and his unit would"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "move in and then they would get wiped"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "out by Ukrainian drones. Then his"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "commander ordered them to try something"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "different to start infiltrating in"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "two-man teams to slip through. They"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "eventually had some success with this"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "and then he deserted to avoid being sent"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "on more assaults. But Ukraine is also"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "struggling with low manpower and high"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "desertion and awall rates. To account"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "for this, Ukraine has adopted a new"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "strategy. In 2025, Ukraine produced 4.5"}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "million drones, and this has led to"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "widespread use of robotic ground"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "systems. In April, Ukraine seized the"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "battlefield position without humans on"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "the ground for the first time of the"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "war, and an estimated 20,000 missions"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "were conducted by ground robots. The"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "technological side of the war has seen"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "drastic shifts that have gone in"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "Ukraine's favor this past year. A"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "one-two punch of the Kremlin blocking"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "telegram messaging apps for many Russian"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "troops because they were unable to"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "monitor it. But it has kneecapped"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "Russian soldiers communications. To put"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "that into perspective, Telegram for"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "Russia is kind of like Instagram"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "combined with Twitter for them. It's"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "it's huge for their doom scrolling. Then"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "the second punch was Starlink was turned"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "off for Russia by Elon Musk. likely at"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "the behest of US government who controls"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "the military side of Starlink. After"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "access was cut off, Russian commanders"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "were forced to rely on inaccurate maps."}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "They deployed with no means of"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "communication or the ability to use"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "their drones. So, the innovation cycle"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "is an important concept in military"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "theory that's key to understanding why"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "Russia's supply lines are collapsing and"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "why the momentum in the war is shifting."}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "Fosuititz famously called it reciprocal"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "action. War is an act of force and"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "there's no logical limit to the"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "application of that force. Each side"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "forces the other to follow suit. This is"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:19", "text": "why momentum and morale in war can shift"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:22", "text": "drastically. Battlefield adaptations"}, {"start": "00:20:19", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "explain why a war can go from bad to"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "better quickly. From glide bombs to new"}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "drones to small motorcycle infiltration"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "tactics, these are all adaptation cycles"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "that we've observed. But if the recent"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:37", "text": "Ukrainian breakthroughs are just another"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "phase in this cycle of adaptation, will"}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "it be undone once Russia counters them?"}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "Senior Lieutenant Maxim Buckland, a"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "Ukrainian officer in the Dunett region,"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:47", "text": "said to the New York Times that Russia's"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "infiltration operations had begun to"}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "improve. He said that the summer foliage"}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "is giving cover to new motorcycle"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "assaults by Russia. The risk of the tide"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "turning again is always there, but there"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:21:00", "text": "are a few factors that make a quick"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:02", "text": "reversal of fortunes less likely."}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "Ukrainian countries have agreed to send"}, {"start": "00:21:02", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "$100 billion for Ukraine through 2027 to"}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "keep their war economy running. When"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "Victor Orban was defeated in his"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:13", "text": "election recently in Hungary, it"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "unlocked this because he was [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "blocking the vetoing for the deal for"}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "years. Ukraine created their first"}, {"start": "00:21:17", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "domestically produced glide bombs"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:23", "text": "recently named the equalizer. In"}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "military theory, there's a concept"}, {"start": "00:21:23", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "called culmination. The principle in"}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "warfare is that the attacking army grows"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:32", "text": "weaker over time as it moves forward."}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "Logistics get stretched and casualties"}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "can accumulate. That's when morale"}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "starts to erode and troops start having"}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "to pay $40,000 to avoid being sent to"}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "the front to their Russian commanders."}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:45", "text": "The Russian army's new offensive appears"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "to be culminating. How will Russia try"}, {"start": "00:21:45", "end": "00:21:49", "text": "to turn the tide? Escalation may be the"}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "decision that Putin makes, raising the"}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "cost of supporting Ukraine until Western"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "political will fractures first. By"}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "capturing a small town on the Estonian"}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "border to test NATO resolve. According"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:01", "text": "to Rosen, the head of Estonia's foreign"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "intelligence service, for Russia to"}, {"start": "00:22:01", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "retake the eastern Dunbos, their"}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "publicly stated goal, their only option"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:10", "text": "would be forced mobilization, something"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "they haven't done since 2022. And"}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:15", "text": "mobilization comes with the risk of"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:17", "text": "protest, but it could change the"}, {"start": "00:22:15", "end": "00:22:19", "text": "momentum of the war again. Will Moscow"}, {"start": "00:22:17", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "once again make the decision to surge"}, {"start": "00:22:19", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "troops? It appears like they're already"}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "laying the groundwork. Will Ukraine be"}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "able to exploit their new momentum and"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:29", "text": "the string of victories? If you found"}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:31", "text": "this video interesting, you can learn"}, {"start": "00:22:29", "end": "00:22:33", "text": "more about Russia's recent head-on"}, {"start": "00:22:31", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "assaults into Ukrainian positions or"}, {"start": "00:22:33", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "this playlist here about Ukraine. I'm"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "your average infoterman Chris Cappy."}]

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Russian forces open the"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "attack with small formations of infantry"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "riding in Chinese-made motorcycles and"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "all-terrain vehicles. Thermal image"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "surveillance footage finds and fixes the"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "five targets. Ukrainian mines blow the"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "unarmored transports into pieces. FPV"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "attack drones then finish off the"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "remaining soldiers. But this is just the"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "beginning. The reason these cheap assets"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "are committed first in the attack is to"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "probe the Ukrainian defense. It's recon"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "by fire."}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "Next, a four-w wheeled ATV tries to"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "survive running the gauntlet, but it"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "takes a nose dive and gets stuck in a"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "ditch at the worst possible location."}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "The pursuing Ukrainian bomber drone"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "starts dropping explosives directly on"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "them. The first one knocks out the"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "engine. The second one wounds soldiers"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "on the right side. The effects on target"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "are devastating."}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "The third bomb is a direct hit. The"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "fourth bomb is another direct hit. The"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "squad of six Russian infantry try to"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "escape, but without their transport,"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "only two of them manage to outrun the"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "shrapnel from multiple bomb runs. These"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "survivors then attempt to find cover and"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "concealment nearby. They try to"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "infiltrate through any defensive cracks."}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "Being an infantryman assigned to"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "unprotected vehicles on this mission"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "must feel like a death sentence, and"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "often soldiers are assigned to these"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "missions as punishment."}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "These initial probing attacks provide"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "valuable battlefield intelligence though"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "for Russian commanders. They now know"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "which directions are less protected. Now"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "the escalation begins as the second wave"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "of the assault kicks off. This time with"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "heavily armored Russian vehicles. But"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "before we get into that, a lot of people"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "don't know I've already created over 30"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "exclusive combat footage analysis videos"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "on Pepperbox that I create weekly and"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "you can only find there. 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But I think you're"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "going to want to stick around because"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "Pepperbox is available on all major"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "platforms, smart TV, Roku, Xbox, and"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "more. Use my link to get access to adree"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "versions of my regular episodes and"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "weekly exclusives from me and your other"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "favorite creators. The escalation starts"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "using the intelligence gained from the"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "probing attacks. The Russian side sends"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "in a wave of higher value mechanized"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "troops in BTR transports. They pass by"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "the husks of burntout armored vehicles"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "that were destroyed in the past. Each"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "one that they pass by marks the cost of"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "their advance. These vehicles actually"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "have some armor on them, which shows the"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "Russian commanders are escalating the"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "assault and sending in heavier, more"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "expensive resources along this route."}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "Russian high command believes that they"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "found a weak spot in Ukraine's defense"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "and are about to commit a massive force"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "to try to exploit it. The BTR offers the"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "Russian troops inside the hole a better"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "chance of getting to the fight compared"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "to the motorbikes and ATVs we saw"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "earlier. The rear vehicle takes a hit"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "from an FPV drone. They're now within 10"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "km of the Ukrainian drone operators. The"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "vehicle shrugs off the blow and keeps"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "advancing. A second FPV drone hits the"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "lead vehicle on its top right where the"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "armor is weaker. This hit causes a"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "detonation on the roof. It's likely that"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "this hit was where they stored their"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "ammunition because a fire starts to rage"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "and break out. The lead vehicle is now"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "sputtering to a stop. We see that four"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "of the Russian infantry in the back are"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "able to bail out the doors and continue"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "the attack on foot. From the Russian"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "commander perspective, that means the"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "vehicle did its job and protected the"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "troops at least this far. It's a cold"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "and brutal calculation, but the"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "commanders on the Russian side judge"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "that sending vehicles and crew on a"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "one-way trip is worth it if it gets the"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "assault team onto the objective. The two"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "Russian vehicles now split up across"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "from each other and try to split the"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "attention of the Ukrainian drone"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "operators. One veers off the road and"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "attempts to assault through the open"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "field. The other vehicle is deadlined"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "and unable to advance further. An"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "artillery strike barely misses them."}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "Then a munition slams into the left side"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "and actually exits straight through"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "straight out the right side of the"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "vehicle. The projectile ignites the"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "BTR's fuel tank in the process. The"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "shape charge carried by an FPV drone"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "could do that, but as we'll see in a"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "moment, there's a Ukrainian apex"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "predator lurking on this battlefield,"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "and that might be what punched the hole."}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "One of the BTRs made it to a small part"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "of the village. We can see how almost"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "all of the houses have been flattened by"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "fighting already. An FPV drone hits the"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "BTR in the rear, causing a massive smoke"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "cloud. The reason munitions are often"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "aimed at these vehicles rear is because,"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "as you can see in the vehicle"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "schematics, that's where the engine is"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "located. But Ukraine has now committed"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "reinforcements to the sector with a main"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "battle tank. They've redeployed what"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "appears to be a T72. This is what we"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "think fired that shot earlier, that"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "punched straight through the BTR. The"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "Ukrainian tank fires point blank at the"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "Russian vehicle with its 125 mm cannon."}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "It fires the shot from only about 50 m"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "away. It looks like a heat round, which"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "flies at 900 m/s. During this phase of"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "the assault, Ukraine purposely sends"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "tanks close range to dislodge infantry"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "because of its shock factor. They want"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "to scare Russian troops into running"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "from their hiding spots and exposing"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "their position. The cannon at that close"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "of range feels like an earthquake from"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "its pressure and explosive force. We see"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "what looks like a massive explosion that"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "could be a secondary hit off, but it"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "probably is from the heat round that"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "sends out a shape charge explosive, a"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "molten jet on impact. This is useful"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "choice if you want to send fragments"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "through the whole armor because you"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "think infantry might still be inside."}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "It's also done to make it more difficult"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "for Russia to recover and refurbish this"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "equipment in the future. We see Russian"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "infantry trying to relocate and hide."}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "They may have made it to the objective,"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "but now they have no ride back. They"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "have no anti-tank weapons that they"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "could use to fight the Ukrainian tank."}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "Any RPGs or explosives that they brought"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "with them got blasted along with their"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "transport. The Russian survivors flee to"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "the nearest building. Here they are"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "provided with some shelter from the"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "drone drop munitions. The building"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "they're hiding in starts taking direct"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "drone hits. Then 125 mm H shell from the"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "tank. The extra demolition force"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "shatters the building apart and"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "collapses cover into deadly traps. The"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "Russian soldier on the exterior of the"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "building is killed. Another one remains"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "inside the building, though. As the"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "structure degrades from the barrage,"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "drones drop munitions deeper into the"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "structure, leaving no place to hide. The"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "building takes repeated strikes from all"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "kinds of munitions, tank shells, and"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "bombs, completely wiping out the first"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "wave of the armored assault. With the"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "first wave neutralized, the overhead"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "drone takes stock of the carnage. We can"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "count at least five Russian casualties"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "that made it into the town, and many"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "more KIA are left in the fields leading"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "up to the objective."}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "But this is only the first wave of the"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "attack, just the beginning of the"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "escalation. Because up next, both armies"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "are about to deploy even heavier armor"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "as these Russian BMP fighting vehicles"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "cross open terrain into the Tourett"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "sector. These vehicles are making a mad"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "dash and their tracks allow them to"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "bound over terrain that the BTR with its"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "wheels couldn't navigate. They're able"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "to attack from surprising angles this"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "way."}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "BMP troop transports have far better and"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "thicker armor compared to the BTRs."}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "They're better trained and more elite"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "soldiers are inside the hole and they're"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "issued better gear. But it's not enough"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "to take a direct hit to a weak spot on"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "the turret. The Ukrainian FPV drone or"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "tank shot knocks the lead BMP out. The"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "jammers mounted on the top don't seem to"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "have any effect. The vehicle continues"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "driving forward though for as long as it"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "can, but the smoke building up inside"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "the hole, and the shrapnel that was sent"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "through it eventually forces them to"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "stop."}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "They're taking unthinkable casualties,"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "but Russian commanders have their own"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "way of calculating acceptable losses."}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "It's a whole different mentality about"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "warfare. Forced out of their transports,"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "the Russian infantry squad flees from"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "the damaged knocked out BMP. The six"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "Russian infantry try to make their way"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "to cover before it's too late. One of"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "the soldiers makes his way to a tree by"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "the river for cover, but the drone has"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "already zeroed in on him. The drone"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "drops two explosives on his position,"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "eliminating the soldier."}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "Losing a vehicle for them is only the"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "beginning of the fight. Light infantry"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "in the open are vulnerable to smaller"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "fragmentation munitions from waiting"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "bomber drones. A Russian MTLB takes a"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "direct hit and keeps rolling thanks to"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "its armored cage, but it's unclear how"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "much longer it can continue with all"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "that oil and smoke pouring out of it."}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "The BMP2 tries to make a run down the"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "same route as the other vehicles,"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "probably to avoid the minefields that"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "are all over Ukraine right now. The"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "BMP's tracks allow it to move quickly"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "through this rough terrain. We get a"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "good look here at all of the different"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "jammers and additional systems that"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "protect the Russian vehicles. We're"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "about to find out if it actually helps."}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "The BMP slows down to pick up a survivor"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "from a previous wave, but lurking"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "overhead is a Ukrainian FPV drone"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "waiting for the ideal opening to strike."}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "The vehicle speeds up, making a run for"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "it. The Russian soldier races to jump on"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "top of the BMP and barely makes it. He's"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "clinging to the left side of the"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "vehicle. Then the Ukrainian drone slams"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "into the right side of the vehicle. It's"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "one of the most bizarre images of the"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "entire assault. Amazingly, both the"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "Russian soldier and the BMP managed to"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "survive the drone strike, though not"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "without some visible damage. Another"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "Russian troop transport takes a direct"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "hit. But now we're seeing transports and"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "troops actually making it to the"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "objective area. Mechanized wave tactics"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "are all about sending enough mass to"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "punch through the outer perimeter of a"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "zone and get soldiers into the fight."}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "Despite the losses along the way, the"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "tactics are progressing with the"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "assault. As they reach the small town"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "where their objective is, the Russian"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "troops get out of their vehicles. One"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "trips and gets blasted by a bomber"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "drone. His body shields his buddies from"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "the shrapnel, enabling them to continue"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "the attack. Russian troops run from the"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "explosion, attempting to find cover."}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "Ukrainian drones will now attempt to"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "hunt, find, fix, and kill the Russian"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "troops who are now beginning to swarm"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "into the objective area. It's the"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "furthest they've ever made it along this"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "axis. Their plan is to get into the town"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "and hide, then wait for more waves to"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "accumulate mass. For the soldiers"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "surviving to this point, it's a major"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "relief. The Russian armored vehicles"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "finds a spot near some trees as"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "concealment to drop off the infantry."}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "They start disembarking and throwing"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "their equipment and weapons out the back"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "of the vehicle, out the hatches as"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "quickly as possible. They know they're"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "at their most vulnerable and exposed. In"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "these moments, the drone waits, hovering"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "above, high enough that no one can hear"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "it over the sound of the vehicle's"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "engine. The drone waits until all the"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "Russian soldiers have gotten out and"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "drops its munition. The bomb explodes"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "right in the center of them, wounding"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "several Russian members of the squad."}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "The rest of the squad runs into the town"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "for cover. They have only moments to"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "avoid being found and tagged. There, a"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "Russian soldier tries hiding under a"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "steel panel at the edge of the house."}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "It's like a horrific game of manhunt."}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "The first bomb sinks into the building,"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "but the second explodes right next to"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "the Russian soldier. Incredibly, the"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "helmet seems to have absorbed the"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "fragments and spared him. This soldier"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "is not as lucky, though. The bomb lands"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "directly on him."}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "From this angle, we see that the two"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "sides are fighting over a large town in"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "Terz, which explains why Russian command"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "are devoting so many resources towards"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "seizing it. Tourette's was one of the"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "last remaining cities before Russian"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "troops could enter Ukraine's fortress"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "belt for Ukraine to hold on to the"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "Dunbos. They need to slow Russia's"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "advance down in this city for as long as"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "possible. The assaulting troops are"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "scattered and most of their vehicles are"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "flaming wrecks, but enough of them have"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "made it into the town that the drones"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "can't sweep them all out by themselves."}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "The Russian infantry are starting to"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "regroup inside the houses and they're"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "beginning to mass. Drones will not be"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "enough to dislodge them. This is when"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "the Ukrainians call in heavy armor of"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "their own to do extremely uplose close"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "combat and personal demolition work."}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "Ukrainian tank reinforcements have"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "arrived. Now that all the Russian armor"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "has been knocked out, now they can"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "operate in peace. Notice how the"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "Ukrainian tank isn't firing from a"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "kilometer away, even though it could"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "engage from long range. Instead, they"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "drive directly up to the houses and fire"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "from close range 2550 m away. Here you"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "can clearly see the difference between"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "drone bombs and proper high explosives."}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "The 125 mm rounds has so much more punch"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "than anything we saw the drones doing"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "earlier in the video. The tank has a"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "shock factor that can dislodge troops"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "from buildings in ways that drones have"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "trouble accomplishing. During the"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "hunting phase of this wave, the"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "Ukrainian tank's job is to flatten as"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "many hiding places as possible. They"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "continue to fire on downed Russian armor"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "to prevent them from being salvageable"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "in the future. They've seen too many"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "pieces of armor besteined back to life,"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "only to be used in future waves. The"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "overhead drone spots an intact Russian"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "vehicle sitting next to a road and"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "directs the tank onto the target. Just"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "one round puts it out of action"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "permanently. The second phase of the"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "Russian mechanized assault has been"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "completely destroyed. Even though it"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "didn't succeed, all that armor managed"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "to break through the perimeter"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "temporarily. But the assault has yet to"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "reach its climax and culmination because"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "it's about to get even more dangerous."}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "Now we see from the Ukrainian Azav"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "commander perspective as the Russians"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "send another mechanized assault force"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "against them. Despite heavy casualties,"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "the Russians just keep coming and the"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "Ukrainian side has to make tough"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "decisions about where to send assets."}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "Another Russian armored column of VDV"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "paratroopers starts advancing on them."}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "They're being monitored from the moment"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "they move. They're 10 minutes till"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "within FPV drone range. Ukrainian"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "artillery starts dropping on them. With"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "the daylight camera turned on, we can"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "see a lot more of the carnage and why"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "the Ukrainians devoted so much time to"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "intercepting this assault. Each drone"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "strike slows the Russians down, but the"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "pace of the assault is relentless. It's"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "only at this scale that we can start to"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "see the cold logic behind what the"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "Russian forces are doing. As brutal as"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "it is, staying on offensive across such"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "a wide area forces the Ukrainians to"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "divide their attention and play defense."}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "The presence of these VDV paratroopers"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "in this particular zone is a clue that"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "Russia's focusing in on the attack here."}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "That's a Ukrainian anti-tank missile"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "streaking across the screen, blowing up"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "the already disabled Russian armor. A"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "Russian tank leads the way on this"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "assault along the road, but gets nailed"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "twice. It chugs along as far as it can,"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "but the damage is just too great. Troops"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "riding on top of the tank pile off and"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "continue to assault on foot, but once"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "again, they're turned into prey by the"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "orbiting Ukrainian drones. The sheer"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "number of the Russian troops in this"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "attack means that the bomber drones have"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "to spend a lot of time trying to pick"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "them off. They have to weigh their"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "options on where to allocate this"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "firepower and where to give ground where"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "resources are tight."}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "You can hear the calls coming in from"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "infantry on the ground, urgently calling"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "for drone support, and Ukrainian HQ"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "reassures the troopers on the ground"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "that support is on the way as soon as"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "they can send it. The city of Tourett"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "was captured by further Russian assaults"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "over the following year, but as you can"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "see, the cost may have been too high."}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "Russia's pace of advance has now slowed"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "since then and may be reaching a"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "culmination point. This massive armored"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "assault shows what the reality of the"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "war is like on the ground for the"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "soldiers. To learn more, check out this"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "video on Ukraine's deep strikes inside"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "Russia and how US intelligence may be"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "helping them. or this playlist here on"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "more combat rundowns."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "On May 25th, American fighter jets"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "bombed Iranian military targets across"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "the Straight of Hormuz. But if there's a"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "ceasefire going on right now, why is"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "there still fighting every other week?"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "The official reason given by US"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "commanders at SenCom is because at 3:00"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "a.m. local time on Monday, a US"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "surveillance drone observed several IRGC"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "fast attack boats laying sea mines in"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "the street. US aircraft were then"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "launched and they blew up two Iranian"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "fast attack boats. The US military"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "called it an act of self-defense. But"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "curiously, the air strikes didn't stop"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "there. Instead, they only began to"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "escalate all across the straight,"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "hinting at a larger strategic objective"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "behind these attacks because"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "self-defense was fired at dozens of"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "targets along the coast. Like how when"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "you get in a bar fight and then you"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "follow them home and you beat up all"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "their friends. Meanwhile, the US Navy"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "has been quietly escorting commercial"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "ships through the straight of Hormuz."}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "And Iranian officials promised to"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "retaliate for the American bombing run,"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "putting the fragile ceasefire in"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "jeopardy. It's a tense will they won't"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "they situation. Today we're going to"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "look at the real reason why both the US"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "and Iran have continued fighting"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "throughout the ceasefire. The conflict"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "map shows us the first clue because the"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "main target of the newest round of US"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "air strikes was Iran's Lorac Island. Why"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "Lorraq? Because this is one of the most"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "strategically important islands to Iran."}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "It sits directly next to the narrowest"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "shipping lanes of the straight of"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "Hormuz. It lets the IRGC Navy basically"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "act as the gatekeeper for Hormuz, just"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "[ __ ] blocking a fifth of the world's oil"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "supply. The island is home to anti-hship"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "missile positions, air defense sites,"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "and electronic warfare equipment. The"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "very same electronic warfare that's been"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "annoyingly jamming GPS signals hindering"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "navigation for commercial shipping"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "across the region. US officials reported"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "that all of these military assets of"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "Iran were struck in self-defense. Lorac"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "is where many of the Iranian fast attack"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "boats and small submarines launch from."}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "The Iranian regime describes Lorac as"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "one of their immovable aircraft"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "carriers. What all of that means is this"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "location is a key piece to Iran's"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "leverage in the war. It's a key piece of"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "leverage in the ongoing peace"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "negotiations. Then at 4 in the morning,"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "an hour later, US fighter jets launched"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "a second wave of strikes. US Central"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "Command Captain Tim Hawkins said that"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "the strikes were designed to quote"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "protect our troops from threats posed by"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "Iranian forces. But was that perhaps"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "just a convenient excuse to launch an"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "attack? laying water IEDs is a big"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "violation of the ceasefire agreement"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "right now. So that would give the US"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "justification for attacking. However, a"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "different senior US official told the"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "New York Times a different justification"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "that Iranian missiles threatened some of"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "the nearly two dozen US Navy warships in"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "the region. And this meant they had to"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "go. Notice how the new US operations"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "were focused on systematically"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "dismantling the core infrastructure"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "behind Iran's asymmetric naval warfare"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "strategy in the Persian Gulf. The"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "initial strikes against the IRGC Navy's"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "mine laying boats quickly expanded into"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "an opportunity to hit Iran's offensive"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "capabilities. US fighters hit coastal"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "anti-ship missile launchers. They"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "knocked out additional radar"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "installations. Even drone facilities and"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "ammunition depots were targeted in"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "self-defense. Part of the reason behind"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "this may be due to the recent US"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "intelligence assessment that revealed"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "Iran has been able to restore access to"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "30 out of the 33 sites that were"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "previously buried by their air strikes"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "near Hormuz. There is a lot that US air"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "power can accomplish, but without ground"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "pounders, American bombers have had"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "difficulty inflicting lasting damage."}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "Several hours later, after the second"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "wave of attacks, the air campaign"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "expanded eastward into the critical port"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "city of Bandar Abbas. One of the"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "American fighter jets took fire from an"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "Iranian surfaceto-air missile site. The"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "pilot fired countermeasure flares and"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "managed to escape the incoming missile."}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "In retaliation, an American F-18 Growler"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "then assisted in destroying the SAM"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "site. According to Captain Tim Hawkins,"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "it was put totally out of commission."}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "These bombing runs were aimed at"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "destroying the fast attack craft"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "infrastructure that Iran designed"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "specifically to support operations to"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "control the strait. Taking together"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "details of the new targets of these US"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "air strikes, the past escort missions"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "and America's ongoing blockade of the"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "Strait reveals an operational plan that"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "is attempting to do one thing. Destroy"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "Iran's leverage. Degrade their"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "negotiating position in the peace talks."}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "Open source intelligence analysts spoke"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "to residents on Kashm Island and they"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "reported hearing gunfire and explosions"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "throughout the night. Kashm island is at"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "the heart of Iran's operations to"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "control the straight of Hormuz. If the"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "US air strikes really did begin in"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "self-defense, it's safe to say that they"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "very quickly escalated from there beyond"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "that small scope. Like how when I say"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "I'm going to have just one more peanut"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "butter M&M and then I end up eating the"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "entire bag except here they got carried"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "away killing. US forces are using hard"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "power to try to shape the battlefield in"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "an attempt to force more favorable terms"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "to end the war. And we'll soon see the"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "IRGC is also running their own covert"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "campaign to try to erode the US"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "negotiating position because neither"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "side has been willing to budge in"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "negotiations around key issues of Iran's"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "nuclear program and whether or not Iran"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "will control traffic through the"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "straight of Hormuz in the future. But it"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "didn't stop there because at"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "approximately 11:40 p.m. local time, the"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "bombing campaign continued to expand."}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "Explosions were then reported by"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "residents near Bandar Abbas"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "International Airport. The bombs hit a"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "nearby Iranian Air Force facility and"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "multiple military compounds on the"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "eastern outskirts of the city. Just 5"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "minutes later, Iranian air defense were"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "reportedly activated across the region"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "as additional waves of strikes were"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "reported near Sariq and Jasque. Why"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "these locations? Because these two sites"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "have become increasingly important"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "military hubs that allow Iran to project"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "power beyond the straight of Hormuz."}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "According to the reports from"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "eyewitnesses on the ground, this was a"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "fast sprawling air campaign. Jask has"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "become important because it gives Iran"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "the ability to disperse missile"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "launchers and naval assets further east"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "into the Gulf of Oman, making them"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "harder to bottleneck and destroy in a"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "single concentrated strike. This is why"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "the US chose to strike them now when"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "they were given a window of opportunity."}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "In this case, we can think of military"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "force being used during negotiations"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "like bargaining chips at a poker table."}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "There is a lot happening in this war"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "behind the scenes that people are"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "missing and it's only now just coming to"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "light. And once intelligence reports"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "started leaking out after the ceasefire,"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "it became obvious that behind the"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "scenes, both sides had already shifted"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "into a shadow campaign designed to"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "improve their negotiating positions"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "without triggering another full-scale"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "war. Because on May 1st during the"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "ceasefire, the IRGC launched a secret"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "attack against a port in Kuwait because"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "that's when a six-man infiltration team"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "from Iran came in a small boat armed"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "with small arms and weapons. They tried"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "to do a Metal Gear solid infiltration"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "into a strategically important port."}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "They were attempting to sabotage or"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "recon the Gulf infrastructure. According"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "to Kuwaiti authorities, it appeared that"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "they were preparing an anti-shipping"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "operation. But at the last second, the"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "IRGC officers were caught by Kuwaiti"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "authorities. A firefight or an"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "engagement broke out and one Kuwaiti"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "soldier was reportedly injured. Four of"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "the IRGC officers were arrested on the"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "spot and two fled the scene. Iranian"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "officials didn't deny they were part of"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "the IRGC, but they claimed that it was"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "just a mistake and they got lost. You"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "know, they they took a wrong turn. Why"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "would the Iranians do this? because"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "they're thinking if they can mine the"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "waterways or destroy infrastructure"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "there, blow up a boat off the coast of"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "Kuwait, it'll strengthen their"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "negotiating hand. Both sides are trying"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "to move the chest pieces around the"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "board without flipping the board over"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "entirely. Or maybe it's checkers at this"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "point. I really don't know. Behind"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "closed doors, the scale of the war was"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "hidden from public view, and we're just"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "now finding out about it. US war"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "planners leaned heavily on air power to"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "achieve regime change in a risky but"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "bold jailbreak operation unlike anything"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "I've ever heard of. We now know that the"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "initial bombing operation's goal was"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "likely to free hardline former president"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "of Iran, Mehmoud Ahmedijad. That might"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "sound nuts because Ahmedad was famous"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "for saying he'd wipe Israel off the map"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "and he wanted to double down on nuclear"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "weapons during his term in power. But in"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "recent years, Ahmed Majad had clashed"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "with regime leaders. He'd accused them"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "of corruption. Iran isn't exactly open"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "to that kind of speech, so he was placed"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "under house arrest in Thran to keep him"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "quiet. The US and Israeli intelligence"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "agencies assessed that he would be a"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "good candidate to take over. He was"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "contacted by Israeli intelligence and he"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "actually knew about the plan to free"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "him. He would serve as a transitional"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "leader in a post-war alternative"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "government that would be more friendly"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "to the US. So they planned this"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "elaborate air power jailbreak operation."}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "Maybe the first ever air power heist. On"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "the opening day of the war, an Israeli"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "precision air strike blew up the guard"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "tower outside his house, killing the"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "guards. This freed him, but the"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "explosion also nearly killed him. He got"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "spooked by this and he hasn't been seen"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "in public since then. Meanwhile, the"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "United States government now believes if"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "the war were to go hot again, they would"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "be joined by new allies to make it"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "easier during round two because"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "officials revealed recently that Saudi"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "Arabia and the UAE secretly launched air"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "strikes and numerous attacks of"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "retaliation against Iran early in the"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "war that we previously didn't know"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "about. This reveals the true extent of"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "the regional war and how it was much"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "wider than we originally thought. This"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "was kept hidden from the public to"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "prevent even more panic. A lot of us are"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "just not mentally in a place right now"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "to handle a full-blown regional war. And"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "now that the dust is finally settling,"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "we're beginning to realize the public"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "only saw a fraction of how the war was"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "actually being fought. Because we now"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "know that the IDF built a secret air"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "base inside of Western Iraq so they"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "could get closer to Iran for their air"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "strikes. IDF special forces soldiers"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "provided perimeter security and patrols."}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "They prepared to rescue any down pilots"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "inside of Iran. But an Iraqi farmer"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "noticed something weird was going on and"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "called authorities after seeing black"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "helicopters flying around in the sky. He"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "wasn't being paranoid. Iraqi troops went"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "to check out what was going on in"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "Israeli Apache helicopters, killed them"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "with a barrage of chain gun fire. But it"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "turns out it wasn't just the IDF"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "conducting covert ops during the war."}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "These black ops being conducted in the"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "background are an attempt to gain"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "leverage while incurring the least"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "possible damage. This is why we saw a"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "brief US escort mission to free trapped"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "ships in the straight. They were testing"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "Iran's reaction and trying to get them"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "to back down and settle in negotiations."}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "In retaliation, Iran fired missiles and"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "drones at the US warships and at the"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "UAE. Then the escort mission was"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "cancelled because it reportedly did"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "bring back the two parties to the table."}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "Reports indicate the abrupt halt was"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "also heavily influenced by Saudi Arabia"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "denying the US access to its airspace"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "and military bases for the mission. This"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "competition to gain the upper hand in"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "negotiations is also why we're seeing"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "Iran trying to lay sea mines in Hormuz"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "at considerable risk. They want to erode"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "the US position in the negotiations if"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "they can continue to credibly mine the"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "strait because the war is still being"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "fought. just being fought below the"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "threshold of full spectrum combat"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "operations. A major part of this attempt"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "to come out on top is the blockade. The"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "US Navy has now stopped 100 ships that"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "have been commandeered, disabled, or"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "turned around. They're blockading anyone"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "entering or leaving Iranian ports and"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "coastal areas to try to put the squeeze"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "on Iran. US fighter jets even use their"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "cannons to shoot the rudders off ships."}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "like their cops laying down spike strips"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "and shooting out their tires. These are"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "all attempts to squeeze Iran's economy"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "and their military power into accepting"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "the US version of the peace proposal."}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "And why haven't they both just returned"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "to fullcale conflict? Wouldn't that"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "force one side to to yell uncle and"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "accept a peace deal quicker? This isn't"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "happening yet because these small tit"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "fortat battles have been relatively"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "painless. However, resuming full-scale"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "combat operations would eat up both"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "sides expensive weapon stockpiles. And"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "neither side is certain just yet that by"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "resuming unrestricted warfare, it would"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "improve their negotiating position."}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "Neither side is confident at this moment"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "that continued fighting would reach"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "their objectives yet. But this hasn't"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "stopped the US and Iran from continuing"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "to prepare for launching renewed"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "attacks. Missiles and bombs have"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "continued to be flown into the Middle"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "East during this ceasefire. And"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "according to SenCom, there are now more"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "than 200 US fighter aircraft and"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "warships supporting the mission in"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "combination. And that includes two"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "aircraft carriers, a Marine MW, multiple"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "guided missile destroyers and"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "submarines. Part of the reason the"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "United States may not have been in a"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "hurry to resume the war immediately is"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "partly because they've been racing to"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "prepare to counter the drone threat"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "during the ceasefire. The reason we know"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "this now is because US intelligence"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "assessments are coming out. and they"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "revealed that the damage to US bases in"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "the Gulf were far more destructive than"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "we originally knew because satellite"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "imagery had been restricted in this"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "region. Key air defense systems were"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "knocked out, aircraft hangers were hit,"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "multiple aircraft were damaged by"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "missile strikes on the tarmac. It's"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "unclear if many of these sites that were"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "hit had anything valuable in them. I've"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "been stationed on some of these exact"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "bases when I deployed to Iraq. And I can"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "tell you that a lot of these structures"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "are empty warehouses filled with CS and"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "MREs, especially now that the US"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "footprint has shrunk since the global"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "war on terror. Much of these bases are"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "largely empty. But what is clear is"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "either way, it's millions of dollars, if"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "not billions of dollars in damage"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "caused. And what's really interesting to"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "me about these strikes, I think, is not"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "so much what was hit, but what was not"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "hit. Because Iran appeared to not target"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "any of what are called chews. A chew is"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "a small room in a compound on US bases"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "where soldiers sleep. They're very easy"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "to identify these sections of a base on"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "satellite images. If they're hit, it"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "could cause hundreds of deaths. Iran may"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "have strategically decided not to go for"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "mass casualty events that could invoke a"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "massive retaliation from the US by"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "targeting these twos. On the other hand,"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "battle damage reports coming out now"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "weeks after the war revealed that Iran's"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "navy was largely destroyed. Their air"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "defense systems were crippled. The IRGC"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "suffered immensely, losing far more than"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "just their supreme leader. However,"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "their ballistic missile launch sites,"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "their strategic attack drone"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "infrastructure appear to be more"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "resilient than originally believed."}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "Intelligence reports indicate 70% of"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "missile launchers could still be"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "operational and 70% of their stockpile"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "is still usable. This war has revealed"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "some of the limitations of air power in"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "achieving strategic objectives. US"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "intelligence has assessed that Iran has"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "regained access to about 90% of its"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "underground missile storage and launch"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "facilities nationwide. Iran's ballistic"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "missile attacks on US bases didn't"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "prevent their strikes. And the US"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "strikes against Iran were also not as"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "damaging as we thought. These numbers"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "are closely in line with previous"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "bombing campaigns from World War II to"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "Vietnam War to Iraq War to modern-day."}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "Air power, like any tool, has its"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "limits, especially because US air"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "strikes have been withholding their"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "larger, more sophisticated bunker buster"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "bombs that are required to be saved for"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "possible contingencies in the Pacific"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "theater. For the past few weeks, the US"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "and Iran have been locked in"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "negotiations. The timing of these"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "renewed strikes right in the middle of"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "peace talks is no coincidence. I think"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "it's a method of putting pressure on the"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "Iranian regime to agree to the US terms."}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "It's like a sales tactic that you might"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "see from a car salesman, a pressure"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "tactic used by both sides to pressure"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "the other into buying a a shitty used"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "car or take a strategically unfavorable"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "peace agreement. And how are those peace"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "talks going so far? The Institute for"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "the Study of War assessed that the"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "negotiations are somewhat all over the"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "place. The United States and Iran remain"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "deeply divided over the future of Iran's"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "nuclear program. Iran has refused to"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "committing to eliminating its"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "highlyenriched uranium stockpile or"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "ending domestic uranium enrichment. Both"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "of those things Tyrron considers red"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "lines. Meanwhile, President Trump has"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "rejected any kind of deal that resembles"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "the old JCPOA one. This has left both"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "sides fundamentally at odds. US"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "intelligence has assessed that Iran's"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "new surviving supreme leader, the new"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "Kmeni, was so seriously injured in the"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "air strikes on the first day of the war"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "that he is in a secret location that"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "only is allowing runners, bringing him"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "pieces of paper with information that"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "has delayed the pace of these talks and"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "slowed everything down. Sometimes your"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "air strike game is too good and it"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "backfires. To give you an idea why the"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "US and Iran both want to break the"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "deadlock with physical force, it's"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "because they can't see eye to eye on"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "these terms. Iran continues claiming"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "authority to impose protection fees on"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "ships that transit the straight of"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "Hermuz. And this is a position that the"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "United States rejects as illegal under"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "international law. Iran has taken to"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "calling them environmental fees. Now"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "instead, you cannot make this [ __ ] up."}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "Why does the war keep starting and then"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "stopping? Because each time the US or"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "Iran are trying to change the conditions"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "of the stalemate is because both forces"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "are jockeying for better leverage in"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "peace talks. To learn more, check out"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "this video about Ukraine's deep strikes"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "inside of Russia and how they might be"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "getting US intelligence helping them"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "with those attacks. I'm your average"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "infman, Chris Cappy. Ending"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "transmission."}]

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Today, we're going to look at"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "how is this suddenly possible, if"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "they're getting increased US"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "intelligence, and how Russia's planning"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "to retaliate. I'm your average"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "information, Chris Cappy. Hit the like"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "and subscribe button, and let's find"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "out. Over a two-day period beginning on"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "May 17th, Ukrainian forces launched"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "their single largest aerial strike of"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "the entire war with a swarm of more than"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "1300 attack drones. They damaged missile"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "production facilities, temporarily"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "knocked out several oil refineries and"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "killed four people. Moscow's subway"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "system might be prettier, but at least"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "you're not getting droned in New York"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "City. The attack caught the attention of"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "the entire world because Moscow is the"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "capital of Russia. It holds huge"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "symbolic and strategic importance. It"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "was shocking to people who follow this"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "closely and to normies who don't. to see"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "Ukraine suddenly evade Russia's air"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "defense. But the story is much bigger"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "than Moscow. Let me put Ukraine's deep"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "strike campaign into context for you."}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "Reuters estimates that Ukraine knocked"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "out 700,000 barrels per day of Russian"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "refinery capacity by hitting across more"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "than a dozen major refineries. The Deep"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "Strike campaign has so far impacted 25%"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "of Russia's entire oil refining"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "capacity, costing an estimated billions"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "of dollars in economic losses. Numbers"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "on that scale don't compute for my"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "brain, but what it really means is it"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "makes it harder to fund the war. So, if"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "Russia's defensive assets are seemingly"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "everywhere, how did Ukraine managed to"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "overcome this challenge and smash"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "through? One of the reasons why they're"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "now having more success in these long"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "range attacks is because of improved"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "intelligence. The munitions follow"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "pre-plotted routes that they have to"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "choose in order to avoid known Russian"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "radar coverage that is always shifting."}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "This involves plotting a lowaltitude"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "path and they mask their approach using"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "different terrain features to their"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "advantage. Ukraine used their"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "intelligence of the live location of"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "Russia's air defense systems to plot a"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "path around them because Russian troops"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "attempt to move their location on a"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "regular basis. Ukrainian commander Brovd"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "estimated that they destroyed about 120"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "pieces of Russian air defense systems"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "over the past year with these mid-range"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "strikes. This has effectively opened up"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "a new corridor to fly through and it's"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "part of the reason why this is all"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "happening now. There's also a growing"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "network of secret cells of saboturs"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "inside of Russia that are launching"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "munitions from in the Russian soil. The"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "head of Ukraine's intelligence agency,"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "Budenov, has confirmed that operatives"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "inside Russia have launched these drone"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "attacks. At the same time, there are"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "other plausible explanations for why"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "there's been an increased success rate"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "for the longrange strikes. Ukraine has"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "built an impressive drone production and"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "drone interception industry that has far"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "surpassed even the US military. I'm a"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "little envious of their drone"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "production. To be honest, I'm a little"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "bit jolly. To the US military themselves"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "are now buying Ukrainian drones and"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "asking for their expertise in their"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "production. When it comes to"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "intelligence for conducting the strikes,"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "the US has for years provided the"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "satellite images and flight paths. But"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "the main challenge for Ukraine has just"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "been evading that air defense and"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "pinpointing the targets. This requires a"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "multi-billion dollar space force. But"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "how is Ukraine suddenly able to hit deep"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "inside Russia? What changed? Meet Robert"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "Madar Brody. He's 50 years old and he's"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "the commander of Ukraine's unmanned"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "systems forces. Brody is heavily"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "credited with this success so far. He's"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "got the strangest career path possible"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "from former pre-war agricultural grain"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "businessman to now being in charge of"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "strategic long-range attacks. And I"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "think they chose someone like that"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "because he understands scale and how to"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "scale up production. They needed a"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "businessman like that. Brody's elite"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "414th Brigade, the Birds of Maguar, are"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "one of the main units conducting these"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "deep strikes inside Russia. Brody said"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "in a rare interview with the BBC, quote,"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "\"The freedomloving Ukrainian birds fly"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "there whenever and wherever it wants.\""}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "End quote. They've hit Russian fighter"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "jets in Chelabinsk over a thousand miles"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "from the front. They've hit targets in"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "the Black Sea oil terminal that have"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "residents there saying that they're"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "living under poisonous black rain"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "conditions from the oil. Commander Brovd"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "is known as Russia's top assassination"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "target after President Sinsky himself"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "due to the success of these long range"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "attacks. Just to give you an idea of how"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "important this capability is to Ukraine,"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "I was shocked to learn that his parents"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "have already survived two separate"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "assassination attempts by Russian"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "operatives inside Ukraine who fired"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "rocket launchers at their house. For the"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "drone attack on Moscow, Brody's team"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "used several different types of"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "domestically produced long range one-way"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "attack munitions for this mission. The"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "main weapon is the FP1 firepoint wing"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "drone, which is similar to the Iranian"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "Shahed flying lawn mower concept. a"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "flyby propeller up to 1600 km with a"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "payload of about 130 lbs which can blow"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "like a floor up of a small house. 60% of"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "deep strikes are done with this type of"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "drone since 2024. And they fire these"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "from secret launch sites in open fields"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "in eastern part of the country and then"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "they quickly disappear before Russian"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "troops can fix their location and fire"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "ballistic missiles at them in return."}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "Brody justified attacking Russia's oil"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "infrastructure by saying, quote, \"Putin"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "extracts natural resources and converts"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "them into blood dollars that they then"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "direct against us in the form of shahed"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "drones and ballistic missiles.\" End"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "quote. Commander Brody said that the"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "longrange drone units have a casualty"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "rate of less than 1% per year. Shoddy"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "working in that unit. This is because"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "according to a BBC insider report, they"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "operate from a top secret deep"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "underground base where they coordinate"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "the strikes. The more advanced weapon"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "that they use is the RS1 bars, which is"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "like a mix between a cruise missile and"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "a drone. It's a remote controlled flying"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "jet with an explosive on it. It's"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "capable of hitting with a 200 lb payload"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "at 800 km distance. New reports indicate"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "they deployed a new and improved SM"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "Gladiator variant that has never been"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "seen before, but likely has greater"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "range and payload. With this strike"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "package, Ukrainian forces also mix in"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "additional decoys."}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "But one of the biggest reasons why"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "Ukraine is able to do this has to do"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "with scale. The Associated Press was"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "given an exclusive look inside one of"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "their factories. There are more than 50"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "secret production facilities hidden"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "across Ukraine and they pump out these"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "in sprawling warehouses where they"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "reportedly blast rock music while"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "producing the drones. It's really the"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "only way to do it, I think. But it must"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "be terrifying to work somewhere, you"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "know, spies are hunting you and they're"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "trying to strike your workplace with a"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "missile if they can figure out where you"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "work at. The Ukrainian company Firepoint"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "founders actually had no prior"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "experience in the defense world, but"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "they are the main producers of these"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "drones. They pulled together their"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "knowledge from different industries"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "though, including construction, game"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "design, weirdly enough, and"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "architecture. I'm assuming developers"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "from Stalker 2 helped out. According to"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "the Associated Press, this insider"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "perspective allowed them to come up with"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "outside the box designs that had greater"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "capabilities than the ones already in"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "the field. And they had a huge benefit."}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "They didn't need to be launched from an"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "airfield, which meant troops could"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "launch them from anywhere near the front"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "line. I think the easiest way to"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "understand why Ukraine is able to do"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "this now when they couldn't do it in the"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "past, comes from something TK, one of"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "the Firepoint executives, said. She was"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "hired in 2023 with the goal of producing"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "about 30 attack drones a month. By 2025,"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "just two years later, they were"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "producing 100 a day for about only"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "$50,000 each. By 2026, they've now"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "doubled to 200 a day in total. According"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "to officials, that number is now set to"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "triple to 800 long range attack drones a"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "day. If past rates continue, it means"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "that they will reach that number within"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "less than 3 years. Russia currently"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "cannot produce more air defense systems"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "to match that rate. It's part of the"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "reason why we saw US and Iranian air"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "defense both struggle to intercept"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "attacks because right now the shield"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "defense compared to offensive strategies"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "has difficulty. We've been hearing about"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "Ukraine's deep strikes for 2 years now."}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "But what's different here is past"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "operations were limited in their scope"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "and success. Damage from them was small"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "and easy to repair. Those attacks were"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "more what we would call symbolic slaps"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "than strategic backhands. The strike"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "range before was severely capped by"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "limits in technology at just 650 km. Now"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "advances in tech are allowing Ukraine to"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "strike 2,000 km deep inside Russia,"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "making the old longrange attack drones"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "look like paper planes. According to"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "exclusive analysis provided by the"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "private intelligence company Rain"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "Worldview, they estimate in the past"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "only one or two drones from a wave would"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "hit their targets. Now it's up to five"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "to seven with way larger payloads."}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "Getting seven times better at your job"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "in just a few years is legitimately wild"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "for government work. What this does"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "though is it spreads out and strains"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "Russian air defense far more because"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "they have to defend more distributed"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "locations. It puts their far rear"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "production at risk like never before."}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "Because Ukraine is now hitting drone"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "factories and strategic bombers at new"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "airfields now within range by March"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "2026. What's changed now, for the first"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "time ever, is Ukraine surpassed Russia"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "in the amount of long range drone"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "strikes in a single month, just"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "absolutely mogging them at the drone"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "war. In order to get through Moscow's"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "air defense, you have to know where it"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "is. And recently, Russia's turned Moscow"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "into the most heavily defended airspace"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "in the entire country. This is because"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "the capital has the highest population"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "density of any region in Russia. The"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "capital is home to some of the most"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "important defense industry, their"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "production for missile and drone"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "systems. It's also the political center"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "of the country and symbolically"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "important to Putin's power. Nowhere was"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "this more on display when Russia had to"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "downgrade their parade and not use any"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "armored vehicles in their Victory Day"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "parade for the first time in years"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "because they feared long range attack"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "drones might hit them. It would be like"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "if drone strikes forced our Thanksgiving"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "Day parade in America to not have any"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "giant inflatable furries. It would just"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "feel off. According to open source"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "intelligence reports, some of Russia's"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "air defense assets in Moscow have"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "already been geollocated. It's kind of"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "hard to hide them in a sprawling city of"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "20 million people in the immediate"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "region. The city is currently protected"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "by two separate rings of air defense. As"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "you can see here, these two layers are"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "made up of approximately 130 different"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "air defense positions. On the outer"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "ring, there are some of the most"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "advanced S300 and S400 long range"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "surfaceto-air missile batteries. But"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "that second further out ring of air"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "defense that's relatively new. Russia"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "first established it in 2025. This is"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "when Russian troops were observed"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "building over 40 of these special air"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "defense towers around the city."}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "At first glance, I was stumped. How did"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "they get a 35tonon air defense vehicle"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "on top of one of those towers? Well,"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "they used cranes to actually lift and"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "place those air defense vehicles on top"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "of what looks like an 80 foot high"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "tower. It's a bold strategy that I can't"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "say I've seen anywhere else on wide"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "scale. But Russia does this because once"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "the systems are lifted up high over some"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "of the treetops and buildings, it"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "increases their radar detection"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "distance. It improves their ability to"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "engage these lowaltitude attack drones."}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "Then once your attack drone makes it"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "inside the first defensive ring, you"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "will encounter increasing number of"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "Russian electronic warfare devices."}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "These attempt to jam incoming drones. It"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "also has the side effect of making it"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "impossible to order Door Dash. Inside of"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "that are dozens of what are known as"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "point defense systems like Russia's"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "Pancier. Analysts have counted roughly a"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "hundred of the Pancier mobile missile"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "and gun systems. These along with tour"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "missiles are placed on the rooftops of"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "the foreign and defense ministry"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "buildings in the city center of Moscow."}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "They are the most effective for shooting"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "down drones. Then if those layers of air"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "defense fail, there are roving groups of"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "Russian soldiers on trucks with mounted"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "machine guns that have thermal optics."}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "There are groups of troops who trailgate"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "outside during the day with machine guns"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "and handheld portable short-range Igla"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "missile launchers. Russia copied a"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "version of Ukraine Sting Interceptor"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "drone, but it's unclear if its automatic"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "computer targeting has the same"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "capabilities. Moscow claims to have shot"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "down over a thousand Ukrainian drones"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "with this network. One of the things"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "that the targets reveal is that the"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "inner city of Moscow, the heart of the"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "urban section, has so far avoided the"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "same destruction as the outer suburbs of"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "the city. That second ring of air"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "defense has been hit, but the first"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "inner ring that is more dense has"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "avoided some of the same damage or has"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "been targeted less. But who has the"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "capability to provide live updates of"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "satellite images? We know that since"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "October 2025, US intelligence has"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "recently increased assistance in how to"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "plot paths of these drones to avoid"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "Russian air defense systems to hit"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "Russia's energy infrastructure. Has that"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "US intelligence sharing increased? Well,"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "consider the fact that Russia recently"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "provided Iran with satellite"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "intelligence and targeting data on how"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "to strike US air defense and US bases in"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "the Middle East. The damage from those"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "attacks was reported to be in the many"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "millions of dollars. I think that, and"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "this is just my speculation and educated"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "guess, that the US is retaliating in a"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "tit fortat form. They likely provided"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "Ukraine with increased intelligence"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "sharing to help hit Moscow in"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "retaliation. The evidence for this is"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "because we know the extent of US"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "assistance in planning drone strikes has"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "grown recently. In March 2025, Ukraine"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "and US intelligence worked hand in hand"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "on what was called Operation Lunar Hail."}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "It was a campaign of drone and missile"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "strikes against Russian military targets"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "in Crimea. Operation Lunar Hail had"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "American and British officers overseeing"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "all aspects of each strike package. Now,"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "according to the New York Times, US"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "officials said that they helped"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "determine everything from coordinating"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "to calculating missile flight paths to"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "hit over a 100 targets in Crimea. The"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "operation was successful. It hit Russian"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "warships, aircraft, and command posts."}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "More assets had to be moved further"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "inland by Russia to escape these"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "attacks. US intelligence built the"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "blueprint for Operation Lunar Hail."}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "According to the New York Times, we know"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "this because of the strike on Russia's"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "munition depot in the Lakeside town of"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "Toro. The US military allegedly provided"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "intel on where the depot's"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "vulnerabilities were and where each"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "Russian defense system was located on"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "the way to Torets. They built out"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "exactly how many drones the operation"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "would need and chartered the flight"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "paths. When Ukraine hit the facility,"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "the blast was so strong that it"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "registered as a dang small earthquake."}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "It opened an actual crater in the ground"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "the size of a football field. From the"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "Biden administration to the Trump"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "administration, they've continued to"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "increase intelligence sharing. The Deep"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "Strike campaign is how the tiny actions"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "of a lower enlisted soldier in Ukraine"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "has an impact on the operational level"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "of the war. One Ukrainian soldier in the"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "unit said, quote, \"We're like a red rag"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "to the enemy because we're taking the"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "war to their territory so that they feel"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "it, too.\" End quote. And that's the"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "frame of mind, the perspective that"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "these soldiers have on these attacks."}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "It's a morale boost. These troops have"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "cute call signs like KitKat, but they're"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "deadly soldiers who make up just 2% of"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "the entire force, and they account for"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "destroying some 30% of the enemy"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "targets, which is something I would brag"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "about at a bar non-stop. This map shows"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "the main targets hit by Ukraine's air"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "campaign because if you look at the"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "targets that they chose, it reveals"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "something about their operational goals."}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "I think the Angstream semiconductor"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "plant in Elma Techno Park just outside"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "the urban center in Moscow were hit."}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "These plants produce the microchips that"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "are necessary for precision weapons"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "found in cruise missiles, drones, radar,"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "and electric warfare devices for Russia."}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "This is the core of Russia's domestic"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "micro electronics industry and it's"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "often called the Soviet Silicon Valley,"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "which sounds like a cursed name for a"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "sitcom. They're inside the outer ring of"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "the air defense here, which until now"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "was difficult for Ukraine to penetrate."}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "And see how the Russian Telegram channel"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "Supernova Plus reported that the Raduga"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "machine building design bureau in Moscow"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "was hit. This is one of the facilities"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "that manufactures cruise missiles. Then"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "several of Russia's oil refineries were"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "struck near Moscow, causing massive"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "fires. These stations were used for"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "pumping and shipping large volumes of"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "diesel fuel used by the Russian army."}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "It'd be like if Loheed Martin Rathon"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "were taking fire in their headquarters."}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "And from this set of targets, we can see"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "that Ukraine's targets were largely"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "designed to degrade Russia's capability"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "of continuing to wage war. Ukraine has"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "recently doubled the scale of these deep"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "strikes on oil refineries and war"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "equipment production. Ukraine is"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "attempting to attit Russia's farrear"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "production capabilities. However, it's"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "important to manage expectations at the"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "same time. Analysts at Rain Worldview"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "state that they believe Ukraine's"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "repeated strikes will cause cascading"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "disruptions and lead to a long-term"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "degradation of energy infrastructure,"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "but it will likely not cause a systemic"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "collapse in Russia and likely won't"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "alter the Kremlin's war calculus."}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "Quantifying the effects of this deep"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "strike campaign is difficult and heavily"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "debated. Most agree it's having a"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "significant impact on Russia's oil"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "exports. If the economic impact isn't"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "huge, Ukraine has another goal."}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "attacking the intangible aspect of"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "morale. Signs of this are clear in"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "Putin's approval rating reaching an"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "all-time low of 65% instead of the usual"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "insane 80%. Even if Russia can quickly"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "replace production of microchips, and"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "even if oil production is quickly fixed,"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "there is a symbolic angle to the"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "attacks. The drone attacks is meant as a"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "message that even the most heavily"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "defended capital is not safe from"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "attack. Commander Brody said that he's"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "targeting Russian morale. He said to the"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "BBC he hopes, quote, that a high"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "casualty rate combined with giant fires"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "burning at facilities deep beyond the"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "border can create a certain ferment"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "within Russia. He's aiming for a shock"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "factor. Russia may now look to escalate"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "the war in an attempt to retaliate for"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "the long range drone strikes. They're"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "escalating their threats of opening up a"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "new front in the north to attack"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "Ukraine's capital of Kev again, possibly"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "with Bellarus soldiers alongside them"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "this time. They're ramping up fighter"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "jet flights over Baltic countries. It"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "appears Russia's becoming more dead set"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "on hybrid attacks in NATO countries to"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "attack any nation they believe is"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "helping act as Ukraine's far rear."}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "Russian authorities have had to"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "institute online restrictions since the"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "beginning of the war. The communications"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "network is now completely unavailable to"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "some residents in Moscow. In less"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "affected areas, residents are only able"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "to access pre-approved whitelisted"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "websites. Your GPS doesn't work or it"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "shows your location spoofed somewhere"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "else hundreds of miles away. A Russian"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "source estimated that the government's"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "actions are costing up to $13 million"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "per day in economic activity. Momentum"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "in war is a difficult thing to describe"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "or to put a finger on, but it's kind of"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "like when you're at a baseball game or a"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "football game for Europeans and your"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "team is down 3 to1. Then suddenly you"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "score more and you're tied 3 to three."}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "Even though you may be tied or maybe"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "you're still down by one, it doesn't"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "matter because the momentum feels like"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "it's in your favor again. The reason"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "Ukraine's deep strike campaign matters"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "is because they have become one of"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "Ukraine's main cards that they hold in"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "negotiations to end the war. How"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "favorable the terms to end the war are"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "will depend to some degree on the"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "conditions on the battlefield. This is"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "part of the reason why we're starting to"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "see Russian mill bloggers criticize the"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:17", "text": "war in larger and larger numbers."}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "Meanwhile, Russia is also increasing its"}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "aerial bombardment on Ukraine's capital"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "city of Keev. That same night, they"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "fired over 500 UAVs and missiles at"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "Ukrainian cities. As Ukraine ramps up"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "production of their new longrange cruise"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "missile with even higher payload and"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "distance, deep strikes are only going to"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "become a more important part of the"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "Ukrainian war as we go forward. If you"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "like this video, check out this one on"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "how someone's been assassinating Mexican"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "cartel bosses, or this one on Ukraine's"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "fortress city. I'm your average infant,"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "Chris Cappy. Ending transmission."}]

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Both the United"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "States and Iran desperately need the"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "city, but for very different reasons."}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "How did Iran and the US go from being"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "sworn enemies to suddenly battlefield"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "allies? And what ultimately caused the"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "fragile alliance to fall apart? US"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "General Tommy Franks, the head of"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "SenCom, actually authorizes the Iranian"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "units to have access to their encrypted"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "radio communication systems. He trusts"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "Iran with the operational codes. This is"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "done to prevent friendly fire incidents"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "on the ground. But the access is heavily"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "restricted to just here near the joint"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "mission zone because nobody in"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "Washington fully trusts where this"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "strange alliance might end up. And we'll"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "soon see that's for good reason."}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "Meanwhile, the CIA maintains personnel"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "inside the city of Tyrron to monitor the"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "joint operation from a distance. And the"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "cooperation is smooth at first. Even the"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "head of Iran's cuds force, Solammani,"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "tells his closest associates privately"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "that he's pleased with the cooperation."}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "Solammani says maybe relations with"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "America should be reconsidered. The two"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "nations were on a path to reconciling"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "their differences, which in hindsight"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "may be one of the most historically"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "cursed moments ever."}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "3 weeks prior at the start of the"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "American invasion of Afghanistan, US"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "Army Special Forces Operational"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "Detachment Alpha ODA 554 is given a"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "mission briefing. They're informed Harat"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "is Afghanistan's third largest city, and"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "it's less than 50 mi from the Iranian"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "border. It's been a Taliban stronghold"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "since they captured it in the mid 1990s."}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "Since then, the Taliban have reinforced"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "Harat with thousands of fighters, tanks,"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "and even several Soviet fighter jets"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "parked at the airport. Harat controls a"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "section of the most important highway"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "network in all of Afghanistan. Sentcom"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "gives the Green Beretss maps and"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "satellite photos. It becomes clear to"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "the team that whoever controls Harat"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "controls the main transportation and"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "rail routes connecting Iran and the"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "Afghan interior. If the city falls, then"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "the Taliban fall with it."}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "It isn't the first time Americans have"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "been here. In the 1960s during the Cold"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "War, the Soviet Union and the United"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "States competed for influence by"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "building Afghanistan's ring road. The US"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "Army Corps of Engineers worked from one"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "end while the Soviets worked from the"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "opposite end. The new highway"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "transformed Harat into a strategic city."}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "Then one of the soldiers asked, \"But why"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "is it so important to the Iranians?\""}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "Because the city has roots with Iran"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "that goes back centuries. It has"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "cultural and historical ties to Persia."}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "Farsy is widely spoken there. Iranian"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "food, architecture, and traditions"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "heavily influenced the people that you"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "will encounter here. It sits along the"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "ancient Silk Road trade route that's"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "been there long before the US and"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "Soviets even existed. Because to Iran,"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "instability in Harat from the Sunni"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "Taliban could cause instability for them"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "at home. This means the team needs to"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "leverage the Iranians influence"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "correctly here to succeed, even if it's"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "the last thing they want to do."}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "The CIA paramilitary team from ground"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "branch was assigned to link up with"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "their Iranian cuds force counterparts."}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "But they had one question first. Why was"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "Iran, their sworn enemy, suddenly"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "willing to work with them? Because a few"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "years earlier in 1998, the Taliban"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "surged across western Afghanistan."}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "During this massive offensive, Taliban"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "fighters massacred thousands of"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "civilians. They especially targeted the"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "Persianspeaking Shia Muslims in Harat."}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "The Taliban killed nine Iranian"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "diplomats and a journalist inside the"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "Iranian consulate. In response, Iran's"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "IRGC commander, Yaya Sappavi, was"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "furious. Imagine if a radical militia"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "seized the city just across the Texas"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "border and then they started executing"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "people aligned with the United States."}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "That's how the Iranian general Safi"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "viewed it. The Taliban and Iran hated"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "each other. So, the Iranian military"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "prepared for war. Safi sent a quarter of"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "a million Iranian troops to mass near"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "the Afghan border. But at the last"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "moment, instead of launching a"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "full-scale invasion, Iran's newly"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "appointed Cuds Force commander Kasam"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "Solammani overruled him and pushed for a"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "different strategy. Because the Cuds"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "force is like America's CIA, but for"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "Iran. Solani borrowed a page straight"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "out of the Cold War proxy warfare"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "playbook. He started funneling weapons,"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "money, intelligence, and training to"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "anti-Taliban factions inside of"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "Afghanistan, especially the Northern"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "Alliance faction. Iran was already"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "fighting a shadow war against the"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "Taliban before the United States showed"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "up, and all he needed at that point was"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "American close air support to finally"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "destroy his enemies in the Taliban once"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "and for all."}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "In the immediate aftermath of 9/11, the"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "United States was searching for allies"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "to help invade Afghanistan. President"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "George Bush was shocked to learn one of"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "the countries most interested in helping"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "was Iran. On face value, it could work."}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:39", "text": ">> The US-led war on terrorism is getting"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "at least verbal support from some among"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "a one-time adversary, Iran. The Islamic"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "Republic was never seriously considered"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "to be behind the terror attacks and Iran"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "was one of the first governments to"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "publicly denounce Osama bin Laden. But"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "there was a problem. Officially, the two"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "governments were not on speaking terms."}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "Ever since the 1979 revolution in Iran,"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "diplomatic relations were frozen. But in"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "private, behind closed doors, that was"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "starting to change. According to later"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "declassified diplomatic accounts, secret"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "back channel talks opened up in"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "September 2001 at the bond conference."}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "Here, James Dobin from the State"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "Department met with his Iranian"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "counterpart, Muhammad Zarif. They formed"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "a close working relationship. This"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "opened up the doors to their nation's"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "top military leaders to meet one"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "another. Countries have no permanent"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "friends or enemies, only interests."}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "After the initial positive signals,"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "General Tommy Franks, the head of"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "Sentcom, secretly traveled to Tyrron"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "alongside CIA officers. They held covert"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "discussions with senior Iranian military"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "officials. General Franks met with IRGC"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "General Safi. And for the first time in"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "decades, American and Iranian officials"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "realized they wanted the exact same"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "enemy dead. American and Iranian"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "officials who had spent their entire"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "careers preparing for possible conflict"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "with each other were suddenly exchanging"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "battlefield intelligence. It was an"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "alliance built on practicality more than"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "shared values. Cuds force commander"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "Solomaini ordered his team to share"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "intelligence with his American"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "counterparts. Ryan Crocker, a senior US"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "State Department official, said that an"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "Iranian officer literally handed over a"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "map to him showing Taliban force"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "dispositions across Afghanistan. The"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "Iranian said, \"Here's our advice. Hit"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "them here first, then hit them over"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "here, and here's the logic.\" Crocker was"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "stunned. He asked if he could take"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "notes. And the Iranian negotiator"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "replied, \"You can keep the whole map.\""}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "The cooperation went both ways. Crocker"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "said the US provided Iranian officials"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "with intelligence on the whereabouts of"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "an al-Qaeda operative that was hiding in"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "eastern Iranian city of Mashad. The"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "al-Qaeda fighter had been organizing"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "sabotage operations against Iran."}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "Iranian authorities arrested him and the"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "negotiator told Crocker, quote, \"Solmani"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "is very pleased with our cooperation.\""}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "End quote. The trust was quickly"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "building, and it sounds insane to say"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "this, but for a brief moment after 9/11,"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "the CIA and Iranian Cuds force were"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "helping each other. The Iranian"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "intelligence networks were extremely"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "valuable to America early in the war."}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "Iran had spent years cultivating"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "anti-Taliban sources. They had built a"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "network of smuggling routes across the"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "region. US special forces suddenly had"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "access to this new human intelligence"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "from their counterparts. At the same"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "time, the Iranians were fascinated by"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "America's ability to use a new form of"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "drone warfare never seen before at this"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "scale. The cooperation continued to"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "blossom from there. On the operational"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "level, General Franks and General Safavi"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "helped each other create the plan for"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "capturing the city of Harat itself. Iran"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "leveraged their existing relationships"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "with the anti-Taliban northern alliance"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "already in Afghanistan with thousands of"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "fighters. Solommeni starts increasing"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "the flow of weapons to support them. The"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "plan they come up with is for the"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "Iranian cuds force operatives to"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "secretly enter the city. Then they"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "establish contact with the anti-Taliban"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "fighters who are already there. At that"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "point, they use their knowledge of the"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "local culture and language to trigger an"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "uprising from within. Meanwhile, US"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "special forces and Northern Alliance"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "units assault the city under American"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "air support."}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "But to pull this mission off, the small"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "team of Americans and Iranian operatives"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "needed someone who already controls the"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "loyalty of Western Afghanistan. General"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "Franks knew that they couldn't rally the"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "Afghan northern alliance units"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "themselves. They needed Ismael Khan,"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "known as the Line of Harat. Khan is the"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "most powerful warlord in the entire"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "region. He's a charismatic former Afghan"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "army captain that was turned rebel"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "commander who led an uprising against"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "the Sovietbacked government in 1979."}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "According to the book Ghost Wars, Soviet"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "advisers were killed in this revolt. So"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "in response, Soviet trained bombers"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "leveled the city, killing tens of"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "thousands of civilians in Harat. But Ism"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "Khan survives it all. He escapes a"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "Taliban prison and he flees across the"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "border into Iran. So now Iranian general"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "Safavi knows exactly where to find Khan"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "because Khan had spent years in exile in"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "Iran, waiting for a chance to retake his"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "city. Khan is like Maximus from"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "Gladiator with an RPG7. But there's a"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "problem. The Americans don't entirely"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "trust Khan. US special forces team ODA"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "554 is briefed beforehand by General"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "Franks that Khan has deep ties to the"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "Iranian IRGC. But Khan downplays it,"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "saying, \"The Iranians are good"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "neighbors, nothing else.\" The Green"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "Berets know Khan is just tolerating them"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "because they bring him money, weapons,"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "and the ability to summon a 2,000lb JDAM"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "bomb. But during an engagement outside"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "Harat, the US special forces team saves"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "Khan's fighters by directing giant bombs"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "onto Taliban positions. And Khan is"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "impressed, and suddenly the Americans"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "are treated like members of the war"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "party. He even allows the Green Berets"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "onto the front lines with his men. In"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "the shaping operations leading up to the"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "assault, American bombers thunder"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "overhead, pounding Taliban positions"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "across Harat day and night. Taliban"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "command bunkers, communication sites,"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "tunnel complexes, and even armored"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "vehicles. Tanks are destroyed"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "systematically from the air. At the same"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "time, moving under US air cover, Iranian"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "commandos from the Cuds force stealthily"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "cross the border into western"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "Afghanistan to infiltrate Harat. They"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "establish a covert safe house and"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "forward operating base for anti-Taliban"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "fighters to rally around. According to"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "the book Boots on the Ground, US special"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "forces team ODA 554, Khan, and Northern"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "Alliance fighters all head into the city"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "of Harat. and they reportedly link up"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "with the Iranian special forces at the"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "same safe house. Just try to picture how"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "bizarre this crossover scene must have"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "looked. The politicians of each country"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "had spent decades fighting with one"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "another in a war of words. But on the"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "battlefield, that doesn't matter now."}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "Differences are put aside for the moment"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "in the name of something more important."}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "When you strip away the politicians,"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "soldiers often have more in common with"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "one another than not. It's more"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "difficult to see the differences when"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "you're sharing a meal, cigarettes, and a"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "map together in a remote safe house."}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "With the pieces now in place, on"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "November 11th, 2001, General Franks"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "gives the order to advance on Harat. One"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "of the strangest joint operations of the"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "entire war on terror was now underway."}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "Taliban morale inside Harat is beginning"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "to crack. News spreads that Kabool is"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "already falling. Former CIA Afghan team"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "leader Gary Shaun said that there were"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "two Iranian Guard colonels attached to a"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "Northern Alliance commander, Bish"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "Malakhan. They advised the combat"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "outside Kabool when US special forces"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "teams arrived in September 2001. It's"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "later revealed a team of British SAS"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "commandos are also on the ground with"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "them, making it truly the Epcot of war."}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "John Mclofflin, former deputy director"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "of the CIA, said, quote, \"We knew they"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "were on the ground.\""}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "American air strikes continue around the"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "clock. The Taliban tries to reinforce"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "the city by sending more fighters and"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "equipment, but the uprising inside the"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "city is about to begin. The"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "Iranianbacked insurgency inside of Harat"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "suddenly erupts into action. Small"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "anti-Taliban cells hidden throughout the"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "city begin attacking checkpoints. They"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "hit police stations and Taliban strong"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "points are destroyed almost"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "simultaneously."}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "US special forces and CIA officers use"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "laser designators to guide precision air"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "support onto the enemy. Iran depends on"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "the US for this close air support."}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "Meanwhile, the US is counting on Iran to"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "spark that uprising. These former"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "enemies are now fighting alongside one"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "another. It works. The civilian"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "population of Harat floods into the"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "streets. The Taliban fighters who"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "attempt to disarm the people are shot at"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "in return. They assault in pickup trucks"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "while Iranian and US special forces"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "coordinate gunfire on Taliban positions."}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "The US and Iranian footprint was"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "extremely small. A few dozen commandos"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "on each side supported by thousands of"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "northern alliance fighters combined"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "their strength in an attempt to destroy"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "the Taliban. Confused Taliban commanders"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "struggle to understand whether they're"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "dealing with a local uprising, an"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "Iranian operation, or an American"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "assault. In reality, it's all of the"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "above. Panic spreads through the Taliban"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "ranks. Some Taliban units abandon"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "checkpoints completely. Others retreat"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "across the border into Iran. By the"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "morning of November 13th, Taliban"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "resistance was collapsing. According to"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "the Iranian state media, residents"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "celebrate in the streets. Gunfire erupts"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "into the air in celebration. After years"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "of Taliban control, Harat had fallen in"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "barely a few days. But the alliance"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "between the US and Iran was already"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "beginning to show its cracks almost"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "immediately. What happened next is Iran"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "immediately starts sending trucks and"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "plane loads of cash across the border"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "that next month. Khan uses those funds"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "to secure the loyalty of his personal"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "forces. Khan consolidates his power as"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "the Amir of Western Afghanistan. He"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "gives amnesty to any former Taliban"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "fighter to join him. This pisses off US"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "General Franks who questions whose side"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "the warlord is really on. The American"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "special forces ODA 554 is still in Harat"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "sending reports up the chain of command"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "to General Franks saying quote we"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "directly negotiate with local commanders"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "for the placement of multinational"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "humanitarian assistance teams to be"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "stationed at the Harat airfield. End"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "quote. The war quickly turned from this"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "high inensity phase to a humanitarian"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "mission and helping the people on the"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "ground also meant influencing the local"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "politics. ODA 554 went on to say, quote,"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "\"We are instrumental in assessing the"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "population and the situation inside the"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "city and the surrounding towns to the"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "south and east. Without our presence and"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "perseverance, Ismail Khan and his"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "followers would not be as supportive of"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "the interim government as they currently"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "are.\" End quote. The Green Berets are"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "pretty much the only thing keeping Khan"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "from trying to establish his own country"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "in Afghanistan. At the same time,"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "Solomon's guys on the ground in"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "Cudsforce are gathering counter"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "intelligence. They get a front row seat"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "to observe how America fights a major"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "war, and they're taking notes. The"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "Iranians influence in Harat was so"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "strong that it prevented the US special"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "forces team from being able to advise"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "the Afghan northern alliance there. So"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "they instead started gathering counter"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "intelligence on their Iranian special"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "forces counterparts that were still in"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "Haran. They discovered Cud's force was"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "actively funding different Afghan"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "leaders throughout the whole country."}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "These operatives were attempting to buy"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "the leaders off. The American team found"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "out the whole city of Harat's police"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "force was given brand new Iranian AK-47s"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "as gifts. Iran went a step further and"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "installed an IRGC commander as the chief"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "diplomat of the city. Iranian influence"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "was growing in the region quickly and"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "the friendship had turned into a"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "competition. Underneath the cooperation,"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "both sides were already maneuvering for"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "influence over what postTaliban"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "Afghanistan would eventually become. The"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "United States wanted a central"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "pro-Western government aligned with"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "Washington, while Iran wanted Western"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "Afghanistan tied to Thran. Harat was"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "quickly becoming the front line of a"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "standoff between the two nations that"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "would continue to grow over the next two"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "decades."}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "The alliance starts to collapse over the"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "course of the next year. At first, it"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "starts small. It takes a few separate"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "events. The Iranians begin sabotaging US"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "efforts. Meanwhile, James Dobin at the"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "State Department says that Iran offered"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "to work under US command to assist in"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "building the new Afghan National Army."}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "They offer to help equip the new force,"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "but the US declines the invite. This"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "signals to Tyrron that the trust is"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "breaking. Then the final nail in the"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "coffin, though, is the famous speech"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "delivered by George Bush in January 2002"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "in his State of the Union address. Bush"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "named Iran as part of the quote unquote"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "axis of evil along with Iraq and North"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "Korea."}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:20", "text": ">> States like these and their terrorist"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "allies constitute an axis of evil,"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "arming to threaten the peace of the"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "world. Ryan Crocker, the US diplomat,"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "recalls that right after President Bush"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "made that speech, he ran into Iranian"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "diplomat at the UN compound in Kabul."}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "And the Iranian was furious, saying,"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "quote, \"Solani is in tearing rage. He"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "feels compromised for going out on a"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "limb for the United States.\" The"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "tactical cooperation ultimately was"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "unable to transcend larger disagreements"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "over Iran seeking to build a nuclear"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "weapon and their financial support for"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "the proxies of terrorist networks from"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "Hezbollah to Hamas. To make matters"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "worse, Iran had just been caught"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "shipping 50 tons of weapons to Hamas by"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "sea. This is when Solammani starts"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "moving resources to kill Americans in"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "Afghanistan. He played a balancing game."}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "It was not in Iran's interest for the US"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "to lose and for the Taliban to become"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "powerful once again. Instead, Iran"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "sought to play both sides to prevent the"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "US from using Afghanistan as a"}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "springboard into Iran. At the same time,"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "this is when the US set their sights on"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "Solom for the next two decades."}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:32", "text": ">> The same Iranian special forces unit"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "that once helped America overthrow the"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "Taliban would later become one of the"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "deadliest enemies of the United States"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "that they would face in Iraq and"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "Afghanistan for the next two decades of"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "the war on terror. The short-lived"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "alliance shows that battlefields usually"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "aren't driven by hatred as much as"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "competing strategic interests. The"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "average fighter on the ground often has"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "far more in common with the guys"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "shooting at him than either side's"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "politicians would ever admit."}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "If you like this video, check out this"}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "one here on how CIA ground branch is"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "assassinating cartel bosses in Mexico"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "right now. Or check out this playlist"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "here on covert American action. I'm your"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "average inframan, Chris Cappy."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "A top secret joint mission between the"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "CIA and Mexican military that the public"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "was never supposed to know about was"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "just dragged into the light. It's April"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "19th, 2026. Four Americans are driving"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "through the Mexican border state of"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "Chihuahua. They're in a convoy of"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "blackedout vehicles and they're dressed"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "in disguise wearing uniforms from"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "Mexico's state investigative agency, but"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "they're actually CIA officers trying to"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "blend in. According to a report from the"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "LA Times and Washington Post, the"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "mission had been planned for weeks."}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "Their objective is to raid six drug labs"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "that are part of a larger network"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "producing meth and fentanyl. But the"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "operation is about to take a deadly"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "turn. And now it's raising much bigger"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "questions about if the United States is"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "waging a covert war across Latin"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "America. The target is geoloccated to"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "here and the location sits hundreds of"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "miles deep inside Mexico buried in the"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "mountains of the Sierra Madre. From"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "here, those drugs then move north into"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "Texas, New Mexico, and Arizona. This"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "region is the heart of what's known as"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "the Golden Triangle, a remote rugged"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "zone that's been a cartel stronghold for"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "decades. Since the 1960s, it served as a"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "hub for narcotics production and"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "trafficking. 75% of elicit substances"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "trafficked into the United States comes"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "from here. It's the most dangerous"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "operating environment in the country. As"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "the team moves into their target, US"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "operated MQ9 Reaper drones circle"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "overhead, providing surveillance. The"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "drones give them the go-ahad to attack"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "now. They flip down their nods, night"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "vision goggles. They breach the doors"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "with explosives. Cartel members are"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "taken into custody. Inside agents find"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "fully operational meth and fentanyl"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "labs. They destroy them on site. In a"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "series of strikes on this night, they"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "shut down a key node in the crossber"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "drug pipeline, creating disruptions that"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "ripple across the entire trafficking"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "network, which matters now more than"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "ever because currently the cartels are"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "on the back foot for the first time in"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "decades. They're weaker than they've"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "been in years because in a string of"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "similar joint US Mexican operations,"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "they killed Walisco New Generation"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "cartel boss Almeno. And then days later,"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "a lot of people didn't see this, but"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "senior figures inside the Seniloa cartel"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "are eliminated by Mexican forces. But it"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "barely makes headlines. What's left is"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "the cartel command is now starting to"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "fracture. Rival factions are turning"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "against each other. A civil war is"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "exploding between the cartels over who"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "will be left standing. But not every"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "joint mission goes off without any"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "errors like those because the four"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "American operatives on this mission and"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "the Mexican troops load back up into"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "their vehicles and they begin"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "exfiltrating back from the objective."}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "But this is where everything goes wrong."}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "According to the official story, as the"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "convoy moves along these poorly"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "maintained mountain roads, the lead"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "vehicle loses control and skids off the"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "road and tumbles down into a ravine. All"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "four occupants are killed in the crash."}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "The vehicle explodes into fire. Two CIA"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "officers are dead along with the senior"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "Mexican state agency director. But at"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "the scene, something doesn't add up."}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "Local police and Mexican media notice"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "inconsistencies almost immediately. As"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "they begin identifying the victims, they"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "realize there are Americans embedded"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "among the Mexican troops. Leaders in"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "Mexico are demanding answers after two"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "CIA employees were killed in a car crash"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "following a drug lab raid."}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:37", "text": ">> The story breaks fast and spirals into"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "an international incident. Chihuahua"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "special prosecutor Wendy Paulo Chavez"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "confirms that the two Americans were"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "dressed as civilians with their faces"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "covered mostly and they were carrying no"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "weapons or identification. Did the"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "Mexican government really know about"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "this mission or not? Was it really an"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "accidental crash or was something more"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "sinister happening here? The official"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "story of what happened to the two CIA"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "officers has shifted multiple times."}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "There are contradictory accounts from"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "officials in both countries. First, US"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "Ambassador Ron Johnson, a former CIA"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "officer himself, tries to tell a new"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "story that the CIA officers were just"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "visiting the embassy staff along for"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "some joint training, helping out with"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "drone training. But that cover story"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "proves to be too flimsy. Neither"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "journalists nor the Mexican government"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "appear to buy it. The first clue that"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "they weren't embassy staff was that they"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "had entered the country on a tourist"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "visa with no work authorization. The"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "other American operative used a"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "diplomatic passport, but his records"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "didn't match up with anything that the"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "Mexican government had on file. Insider"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "sources later revealed to the LA Times"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "that this was actually the third"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "occasion where the CIA joined in raids"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "in the Mexican state of Chihuahua."}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "Officials scrambled to change their"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "story again. Speaking to News Nation,"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "former Navy Seal and FBI special agent"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "John Gileiam revealed that the agency"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "has used stories of car accidents before"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "in the past to cover up combat deaths of"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "officers in the field that were"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "sensitive. This is usually only done in"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "extremely sensitive diplomatic"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "situations. The inconsistent stories"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "made people believe that the American"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "operatives may have actually been killed"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "during the raid itself or the cartel"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "ambushed the convoy as it drove through"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "the mountains. The agency has a wall of"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "unnamed stars at their headquarters"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "listing all the people who have died in"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "service of the country on classified"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "missions that cannot publicly be"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "announced. In fact, Title 50 missions,"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "which this almost certainly was, covert"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "action is defined as activities where it"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "is intended that the role of the United"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "States government will not be apparent"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "or acknowledged publicly. It's unclear"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "how many Mexican troops were on the raid"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "that were even aware of the secret US"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "presence. Mexican President Claudia"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "Shinbomb stated, quote, \"Evidently, the"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "military didn't know that there were"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "people participating who weren't Mexican"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "citizens, that there were foreigners"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "participating in the operation.\" End"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "quote. According to public statements by"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "Shine Bomb, the CIA officers were not"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "authorized to operate in Mexican"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "territory. Mexican law and US official"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "policy prohibit CIA operations in our"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "southern neighbor without the express"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "permission of the government. If"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "President Shinbomb really had no"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "knowledge of the mission, then the"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "statement carries an alarming"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "implication that the intelligence"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "operatives may have actually been"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "operating under a secret agreement with"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "the Chihuahua state government. This is"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "in direct violation of the Mexican"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "Constitution. It was not an operation"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "that the security cabinet was aware of."}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "We're not informed. It was a decision by"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "the Chihuahua government. To understand"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "how that's even possible, this mission,"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "you have to look at one unit that the"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "public only recently found out about"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "last year named Gain. According to"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "reports from Reuters, the CIA helped"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "stand up Gain in the 1990s as what is"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "called a vetted unit. This means every"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "member is polygraphed, closely"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "monitored, and effectively handpicked to"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "work alongside US intelligence. Former"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "leader of the outfit, Roberto Alivera,"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "describes it as a hunter killer team"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "built to track and dismantle cartel"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "networks using US provided intelligence"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "and tech. This created the playbook for"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "how these joint missions operated."}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "Former CIA narcotics chief Jack Divine"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "said the decision was made to create"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "units where we're really going to give"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "them state-of-the-art technical"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "equipment and we're really going to give"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "them state-of-the-art intelligence"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "collection capabilities. The agency even"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "reportedly flew out Mexican officers to"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "America to receive training in"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "espionage, specialist designed"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "prosthetic mustaches, wigs, and fake"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "scars for the Mexican soldiers to use as"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "undercover disguises. Today, there are"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "at least two CIA vetted military units"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "operating in Mexico. This kind of"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "cooperation has happened in the shadows"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "for years. US intelligence has operated"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "in Mexico, but always under lock and"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "key. clandestine forces inside of Mexico"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "had been kept on a leash because under"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "agreements like the bicesentennial"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "framework, Mexican authorities"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "greenlight all of these targets, Mexican"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "forces make the arrest and the US stays"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "in a supporting role. That's been the"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "deal. But this mission that we just saw"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "doesn't quite fit that pattern. This is"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "the first real concrete evidence"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "revealing the level of involvement in"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "these raids. Highlevel officials are"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "already starting to resign over it. The"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "Mexican government's conflicting"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "accounts also raised the possibility of"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "something deeper. And this is what I"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "think really happened. Duncan Wood from"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "the Wilson Center believes President"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "Shine Bomb statements are directed more"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "towards a domestic audience. Quote, \"Any"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "Mexican leader is naturally going to"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "express concern and also surprise when"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "US operatives are discovered in Mexico,"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "even though the fact is that this"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "happens all the time. And the reason why"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "they expressed concern and surprise is"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "because of the deeply held nationalist"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "feelings in Mexico, as you would find in"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "many countries, about operatives being"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "active there. Operations like this"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "happen in secret for a reason. It's for"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "the safety of the US agents and also to"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "preserve the integrity of the Mexican"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "leadership. If the public learned that"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "their leaders tolerated American"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "intelligence officers rooting around in"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "their country doing god knows what, it"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "could fracture the foundation of public"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "trust and destabilize the country."}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "Reuters journalists Drezen Gorgek and"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "Laura Gotender detailed in full how the"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "partnership works in a kind of look the"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "other way hush hush open secret between"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "the two nations. So, President Shine"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "Bomb herself is in a tough spot trying"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "to simultaneously balance her nation's"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "sovereignty and national spirit against"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "immense pressure from the United States"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "and her own people to crack down on the"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "drug cartels or risk direct military"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "action on Mexican soil with or without"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "their approval. An indication this is"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "what really happened is how quickly all"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "of this has been swept under the rug and"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "how muted the response has been. Both"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "countries appear to want to put this to"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "rest quickly. Normally, it's DEA and FBI"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "agents on the ground in Mexico, not CIA"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "officers, and even then only in training"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "support roles rather than taking part in"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "any assault teams. The agency is usually"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "most comfortable working behind the"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "scenes. It's in the US strategic"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "interest for a strong Mexican government"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "to take the lead on actual groundwork."}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "So, how is the cooperation working?"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "Mexico's state of Chihuahua actually has"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "the highest level of joint operations"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "between the United States and Mexico."}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "Jorge Armand Diaz, the spokesman for the"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "state public security secretariat, said"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "that 18 analysts from the United States"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "agencies, including the DEA and FBI,"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "will now be stationed at a new"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "intelligence center in the city of"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "Huarez, just 10 miles south of El Paso,"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "Texas. This year, they just opened in"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "April what's called the B intelligence"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "bunker. By intelligence goes both ways"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "of the border. They're opening a giant"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "Sauron Eye style 20f flooror building"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "that has a massive command center for"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "monitoring the cartel called the"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "Sentinel platform based on the"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "surveillance technology from Palunteer"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "and what they do in America. It's a"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "state-of-the-art nerve center for all"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "public safety operations that cost over"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "$80 million. It brings together"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "thousands of cameras, license plate"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "readers, drones, helicopters, public"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "panic buttons, all into one system. It's"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "crazy how analysts use it. They use an"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "iPad to just touch the screen and choose"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "any camera or source that they want to"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "monitor live. The surveillance state"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "that we have here in America is now"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "being exported south. It's like"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "something out of what a 1990s TV show"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "thought command rooms should look like"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "in the police department. The bunker has"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "150 analysts who coordinate these"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "investigations. Mexican officials say"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "that the partnership helps stop human"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "trafficking as well. If the CIA is"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "embedded with these teams though,"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "fighting the cartel, what else are they"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "getting themselves into? Reuters"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "reported that inside the agency"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "headquartered in Langley, Virginia, they"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "are moving resources and personnel to"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "amp up counter cartel efforts. They"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "created the new Americas and counter"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "narcotics mission center where they got"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "$200 million in funding boost per year."}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "Some of the best officers and top"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "counterterrorism officials have"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "reportedly been reassigned to work on"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "the Mexican cartels. According to three"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "intelligence sources who spoke to"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "Reuters, we've since learned how deeply"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "involved they were in the operation to"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "kill Aleno in February. The CIA supplied"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "intelligence that got him is wild. It"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "started by tracking an Only Fans model"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "who Elena was communicating with."}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "According to Intelligence Online, they"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "exploited the metadata that was"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "associated with the young lady's"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "profile. Investigators were able to"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "identify a device indirectly linked to a"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "remote and isolated property in the"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "Mexican state of Halisco. Then an"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "American analyst team located in"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "Arizona, just 15 miles from the border"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "in Mexico got to work. This place is"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "home to NetCom and Army Intelligence"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "Center. It's where digital targeting"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "center is located run by Colonel Dana"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "Riley. Every day they wake up and their"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "job is to find people and have them"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "killed. Intelligence online sources"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "revealed that two special MQ9 Reapers"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "were then deployed using a soore which"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "is scalable open architecture"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "reconnaissance pod on its wings. They"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "scan for electromagnetic emissions. It"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "intercepts low power communications like"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "phones, looked through cartel burner"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "phones, and isolated Eleno by finding"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "who he was talking to. This only fans"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "check. The agency special activity"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "center was involved on the ground raid"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "as well, and they helped track his"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "movements and provided the muchneeded"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "intelligence on Elmeno's compound, but"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "it was still Mexican forces that did the"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "door kicking. The April 19th raid was"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "the most active role that we've seen the"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "CIA take yet, and it indicates possibly"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "a more intrusive level of US involvement"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "in kinetic operations. Speaking about"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "the crash, Mexican Security Secretary"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "Omar Harfuch characterized the"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "relationship with the CIA, saying,"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "quote, \"Going to support any operation"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "is different from actually being part of"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "the planning of the operation. Agents"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "have never been in the field with us.\""}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "End quote. Mexican authorities in the"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "past have been concerned about going"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "directly after the drug lords. They"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "feared the power vacuum would only fuel"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "further violence and encourage more"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "radical newcomers to fill the void left"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "at the top. It's easier to attack an"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "enemy with friends, though, and the"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "entire region is now shifting how they"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "deal with cartel violence. If we zoom"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "out, we notice a larger trend happening"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "across Latin America. Now, just weeks"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "before this raid, leaders from across"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "the Western Hemisphere met in"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "Washington, DC for what was called the"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "America's Security Summit. This has been"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "pushed heavily by the new Trump"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "administration. A day after the meeting,"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "Colombian President Pro ordered a strike"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "against narot terrorists in his country,"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "eliminating seven members of the cartel."}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "The trend continues in Bolivia where"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "their president Rodrigo Paz announced"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "the country has welcomed back the"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "American DEA after 17 years ago when the"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "country's former president kicked the"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "DEA out, accusing them of spying and"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "supporting opposing groups. Seeing the"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "DEA invited back to Bolivia is a huge"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "change. They're now resuming"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "intelligence sharing, officer training,"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "and operational coordination with drug"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "trafficking. But nowhere is this more"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "apparent than in Ecuador, where US"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "special forces have continued to go on"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "joint missions with Ecuador's forces"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "targeting the cartels. US military"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "deployed a group of US Air Force"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "personnel to the Ecuadorian military"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "base in Manta beginning in December. The"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "walls are closing in now on the cartel"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "leadership across Latin America."}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "Ecuadorian forces captured the country's"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "two most powerful cartel bosses last"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "year. The head of Los Cheros was found"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "in a bunker in his mansion near the"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "coastal part of the country. He was then"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "extradited to the United States. A few"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "months later, the head of Los Loos was"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "captured in Spain. He tried to face"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "change Max by going through seven"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "surgeries to change his appearance. But"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "billions of dollars worth of CIA"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "biometric face tracking was better than"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "that. The focus throughout Latin America"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "is on transnational criminal"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "organizations. What was once a law"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "enforcement problem for the whole entire"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "region is now a national security"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "threat. For years, cartels were treated"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "as criminal networks. Now they're being"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "discussed in the same category as"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "insurgent groups. That opens the door to"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "this completely different set of tools"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "like the CIA paramilitary teams. When"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "the operation against Venezuela"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "happened, the CIA deployed in Colombia"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "for crossber missions. This increase is"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "happening now all over Latin America."}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "This must be like operational whiplash"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "for the CIA, though, going from selling"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "Coke to now destroying it. You can"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "already see the effects. Mexico has"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "deployed 200,000 military personnel"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "internally for security operations, one"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "of the largest domestic military"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "deployments in the world. Countries like"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "Colombia and Brazil are increasing"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "defense budgets specifically tied to"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "internal security and border control."}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "Even smaller nations in Central America"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "are expanding special operations and"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "intelligence units focused on organized"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "crime. US joint inter agency task force"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "counter cartel is mapping cartel"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "networks using counterterrorism methods."}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "They operate kind of like J-C special"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "forces but under a different name across"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "the border bringing the find fix and"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "finish mission with them. The news of"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "alleged drug boats being blown up across"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "Latin America's waters is out of the"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "front pages right now. But in April,"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "that was actually the most strikes"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "against alleged narot trafficker boats"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "in a single month. And that's where this"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "operation fits in. The line between"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "advising and participating for US forces"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "is slowly disappearing. And that's what"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "this tragic incident represents, the"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "next phase of cooperation. And that's"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "how you end up with American"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "paramilitary officers deep inside the"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "mountains of Chihuahua. The only"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "question is how many more missions have"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "happened like this that we don't know"}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "Ohoy. The US Navy just launched a risky"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "escort mission codenamed project freedom"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "to rescue the hundreds of tankers that"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "have been stuck here in the straight of"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "Hermuz for the past two months."}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:13", "text": ">> Little help guys."}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:16", "text": ">> The live conflict map behind me shows us"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "geoloccated reports. Here we see Sentcom"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "claimed multiple Arley Burke American"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "destroyers transited through the"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "straight of Hormuz and then escorted two"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "US flag vessels safely to the other side"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "where they went along their business."}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "It's one of those reverse runs on a"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "double blockade. Classic. As the escort"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "mission kicked off, Iran immediately"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "retaliated though, and they sent a swarm"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "of 40 fast attack boats to intercept."}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "This satellite image even captured the"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "Iranian speedboats on the move. Iran"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "launched the boats, and they fired"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "missiles at the US warships. The US Navy"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "ran headirst into this ambush, or in"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "this case, a target-rich environment."}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "They blew up six IRGC fast attack boats."}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "It was Pirates of the Caribbean if they"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "had helicopters. According to Sentcom"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "Commander Brad Cooper, Apache"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "helicopters and MH60 Seahawks were"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "deployed to create this massive"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "defensive screen in front of the ships."}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "Where's that idiot that said helicopters"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "are obsolete? The US attack helicopters"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "loitered over the straight of Hormuz,"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "firing 30mm cannons and hellfire"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "missiles at the IRGC boats. Some of the"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "mosquito fleet was swatted. The"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "remaining 30some boats that were alive"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "retreated. Today I want to look at can"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "the US naval escort break the stalemate?"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "How is Iran retaliating? And will I be"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "able to pay less than $4.30 a gallon. So"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "okay, so the operational picture in the"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "straight of Hormuz has evolved quickly."}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "What started as Iranian blockade of US"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "allied oil exports and exports in"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "general has turned into a counter"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "blockade by US forces now preventing"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "Iranian exports. And on top of all of"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "that, a US escort mission is now in"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "there to break the Iranian side of the"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "blockade. And meanwhile, Iranian"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "sanctioned vessels are trying to run the"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "US blockade. Further complicating all of"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "this, at the same time, hundreds of"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "miles away, the IDF is fighting"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "Hezbollah inside Lebanon, which Iran has"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "tied to any attempts to diplomatically"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "clear this up. It's like what my old"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "squad leader used to always call a"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "classic cluster. In response to the"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "escort mission, the IRGC literally went"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "ballistic. immediately started launching"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "drones and ballistic missiles in"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "retaliation at US warships in an attempt"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "to disrupt the mission. Iranian state"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "media released this combat footage"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "showing missile launches at US warships"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "from land. US destroyers intercepted and"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "avoided all incoming munitions fired at"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "them. But it appears Iran's retaliation"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "did also have some initial success. A"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "South Korean ship on the straight of"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "Hormuz was reportedly hit by some kind"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "of munition causing a fire on board."}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "There was no massive change in the"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "amount of ships going through the"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "straight of Hormuz. No massive run"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "through the straight with hundreds of"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "ships pouring through. Iran's FARS news"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "agency affiliated with the Islamic"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "Revolutionary Guard Corps initially"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "claimed that they hit a US naval frigot"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "in the waters near JS after quote the US"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "vessel ignored warnings from Iranian"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "forces for violating the security of"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "transit and navigation. According to"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "them, the Pentagon clapped back saying"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "that that was a lie saying quote the"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "truth is no US Navy ship has been"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "struck. US forces are supporting Project"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "Freedom and enforcing the naval blockade"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "on Iranian ports. Then Iranian officials"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "clarified what they were saying and they"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "said that they stopped US ships from"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "entering the straight at all with a"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "warning shot. Iran's revolutionary guard"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "stated that no commercial vessels had"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "managed to cross the straight and that"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "the US claims about that were false. So"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "we're left with a straight of Hormuz"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "game of he said, she said. It only took"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "hours after the announcement of an"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "escort mission at all for the first"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "signs and cracks in the ceasefire to"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "appear. UAE, which has become Iran's"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "favorite country to attack, was hit by"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "drones and 12 ballistic missiles,"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "showing Iran still does have the"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "capability to surge missile attacks."}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "Some of the munitions were intercepted"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "by air defense, but others got through,"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "setting fire to an oil industry zone."}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "Was the whole escort mission just a way"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "of pressuring the ceasefire into ending?"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "So far, the war has not resumed in full,"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "meaning the combat is mostly contained"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "to the strait. President Trump has"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "claimed before early in the war that the"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "Navy was going to do an escort mission,"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "but last time the Pentagon pretty"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "quickly said that was not happening."}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "Since then, several shaping operations"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "were done to prepare for a possible"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "escort mission, though. The Air Force"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "dropped hundreds of 2,000 lb bombs over"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "the Straight of Hormuz, attempting to"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "knock out missile sites, and they"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "destroyed more than 15 mine laying"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "vessels. They then surged in more"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "ammunition, ships, and interceptors into"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "the region in preparation for this"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "mission. An official press release from"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "SenCom stated that the mission will"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "support merchant vessels seeking to"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "freely transit through the essential"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "international trade corridor. Admiral"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "Brad Cooper, Sentcom commander, said,"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "quote, \"Our support for this defensive"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "mission is essential for regional"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "security and the global economy as we"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "also maintain the naval blockade.\" And"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "to that end, SenCom announced that"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "multiple US Navy guided missile"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "destroyers are currently operating in"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "the Arabian Gulf after transiting the"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "Straight of Hormuz in support of Project"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "Freedom. They reported that American"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "forces are actively assisting efforts to"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "restore transit for commercial shipping."}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "Whenever I see these official accounts"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "post something like this on X, I it"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "always makes me think of the AOL away"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "messages. Like I'm looking at Sentcom's"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "away message. Is it Is it just me? But"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "all might not be as it seems because"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "Jennifer Parker, a non-resident fellow"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "at the Loly Institute and former Royal"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "Australian Naval Officer, believes we're"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "not seeing an actual full escort mission"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "yet. She said, quote, \"This appears to"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "be an operation, which is less about"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "providing direct protection to vessels"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "or a couple of vessels and more about"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "trying to change the situation in the"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "straight so that ships feel safe.\" End"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "quote. So far, Project Freedom appears"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "to be what reminds me of actually kind"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "of like the old presence patrols that it"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "used to do in Iraq. We would drive"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "around in our strikers up and down the"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "main highway as a show of force. Parker"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "told CNN that, quote, \"In some ways,"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "Trump is forcing Iran's hand. They would"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "need to escalate and fire at US"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "warships, which is a different kind of"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "escalation.\" End quote. Which, if we"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "believe the combat reports initially,"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "Iran already fired on US ships. And this"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "makes sense when you look at the"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "statement by Sentcom Commander who said,"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "quote, \"Over the last 12 hours, we've"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "reached out to dozens of ships and"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "shipping companies to encourage traffic"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "flow through the street of Hormuz to"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "help guide ships safely through the"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "narrow trade corridor.\" BRB escorting"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "tankers through Hormuz. Sentcom got"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "things handled. Don't wait up. Ping"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "later. With any war, my first question"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "is always, what am I allowed to shoot at"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "and when? What am I not allowed to shoot"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "at as well? The rules of engagement for"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "US forces operating near the Strait of"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "Hormuz is that everyone is authorized to"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "shoot at any immediate threat in that"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "local region, including Iran's fast"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "attack boats, their missile positions on"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "land, meaning that they've been given"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "the green light in this area only. Don't"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "don't try to kill people outside. It's"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "not okay to kill people anywhere else."}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "How does the US view the operation?"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "Sentcom commander Admiral Cooper said,"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "quote, I think the key thing is for us,"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "we're merely there as a defensive force,"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "an inforce, to give a very thick layer"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "of defense to commercial shipping to"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "allow them to proceed out of the Arabian"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "Gulf. End quote. The way it works now is"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "the two dueling blockades each have"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "their own safe passage route. Iran's"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "route hugs close to their shores, while"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "the new Project Freedom corridor, quote"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "unquote, is on the other side, closer to"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "the shores of Aman. The safe word on the"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "American corridor is HA and the safe"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "word on the Iranian side is Habibi."}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "Wait, did they say that over there? The"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "US-led joint maritime information center"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "has advised ships to cross the straight"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "in Oman's waters, saying that they set"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "up what's called an enhanced security"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "area. So that's the enhanced security"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "area isn't exactly the same as a convoy"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "escort mission quite yet. Sir, maybe if"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "we tell them we're almost out of"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "missiles, they'll come out of hiding."}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "Now, how is the US Navy clearing the"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "path? Isn't Hormuz minded up the ass?"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "It's not like your daddy's Hormuz"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "mission. They're using autonomous drones"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "to clear the water of mines. In the"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "past, escort missions required a bunch"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "of dedicated mine clearing ships to"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "clear the path. No longer. The new"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "strategy was underway since a month"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "before the war even began. Old American"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "mind sweepers were moved out of the"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "region and replaced by new systems. In"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "their place, two lal combat ships were"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "sent with their anti-mine capabilities"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "modularly attached to them. the MCM"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "version, the unmanned service vehicle"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "that towes these sonars behind it. Those"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "sonars detect sea mines, then they"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "detonate them. These are capabilities"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "that the Navy did not have during the"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "1980s when escorting ships back through"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "the straight. Then, however, there are"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "more challenges of a contested escort"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "mission for an extended period of time"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "through the straight of Hormuz. Since"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "the ceasefire in April 8th, there are"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "now more than 850 ships estimated to be"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "trapped in the Gulf and a total of some"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "2,000 ships stuck in and around the"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "Persian Gulf. On board these stuck ships"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "are more than 20,000 sailors. And that's"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "according to the International Maritime"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "Organization. They've been stuck on"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "these ships for 2 months now in what"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "must feel like the longest traffic jam"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "of your life. living in purgatory with"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "the threat of missiles. These sailors"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "are stuck often without fresh food or"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "water for long lengths at a time. Moving"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "that many ships would take a long time"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "at the current pace. But pulling several"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "destroyers off the blockade for an"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "escort mission creates operational"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "challenges. This is because several of"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "Iran's blockaded ports are located"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "further to the southeast from the"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "chokepoint itself. There are Iranian"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "sanctioned oil tankers that are sitting"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "there right now and these ports have"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "been stopped by the blockade so far."}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "Could the US Navy maintain this blockade"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "and also simultaneously escort mission"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "at the same time? Possibly. It's why"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "we've seen a new surge of ships. Stars"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "and Stripes now counted in a huge armada"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "of 27 American warships in the Middle"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "East right now. Fifth Fleet has command"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "over currently three aircraft carriers."}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "is the USS Abraham Lincoln and its"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "strike group of 11 destroyers that come"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "along with it for the blockade. And"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "according to Stars and Stripes analysis"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "is roughly 40% of all the services"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "active ships are operating right here."}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "According to Sencom, US military support"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "for Project Freedom will include over"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "100 land and sea-based aircraft,"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "multi-dommain unmanned platforms, and"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "more than 15,000 service members. Then"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "you have the aircraft carrier USS George"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "Bush also arriving on station. For a"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "moment, it looked like the US was"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "surging to have three aircraft carriers"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "in the Middle East. But reports indicate"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "that the USS Ford is finally headed back"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "home after a historic more than 10-month"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "deployment. Analysts believe that this"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "is enough ships to try to conduct the"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "two-prong strategy of blockade and not"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "blockade. The challenge to a prolonged"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "escort mission is that Iran has semming"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "lowaltitude missiles with a range of 75"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "to 185 miles. Plenty of distance to"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "engage US warships there. They fly at a"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "low altitude, making them hard to detect"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "and intercept. But what makes this fight"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "really tense, I think, is that Iran has"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "them positioned here on islands like"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "Kashm. They're hidden in underground"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "tunnels with pop-up launch sites. So"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "what the US is doing is flying A-10"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "warth hogs, F-15s and F-18 fighter jets"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "all along here trying to shoot them down"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "the second they try to fire. We see"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "onflight radar trackers a surge of"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "midair refuelers from American tankers"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "on station during the escort missions."}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "Even if the US is able to escort some"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "ships through the Oman corridor, they"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "would need to almost entirely neutralize"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "the threat for them to make a meaningful"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "change in traffic. So, since the double"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "blockade began, the war has been in a"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "kind of stalemate. The effect has been a"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "crippling of Iran's already weakened"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "economy. Iran's national currency has"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "hit a new all-time low of 1.84 million"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "against the US dollar. Millions of"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "people have lost their jobs while the"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "internet has remained dark throughout"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "the conflict. On the other hand, it's"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "also caused gas prices to sore in the"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "United States, which has made the price"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "of just about everything else go up. And"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "it's put increased political pressure on"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "Trump to end the war. It's like two bare"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "knuckle boxers just sitting there"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "punching each other at the straight of"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "Hormos to see who will give first. Since"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "US forces imposed the blockade on April"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "13th, as of today, 50 commercial vessels"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "have been stopped or redirected to"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "comply with this blockade by America. US"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "Marines from the 31st MW eager to get"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "off their ships anyway, fast roped onto"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "Iranian vessels, commandeering them."}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "Another Iranian sanctioned vessel trying"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "to run the blockade was shot by the"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "Navy's 5-in guns right into their engine"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "compartment. And they were boarded by"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "Navy Seals, capturing millions of"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "barrels of oil. On the other side, Iran"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "has captured two commercial tankers."}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "It's a Mexican standoff in the Persian"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "Gulf. Will this convoy work? Like"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "Hollywood, geopolitics also lazily"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "reboots everything from the 1980s."}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "Because a full-on escort convoy mission"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "also happened in the 1980s. At the time,"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "Iran and Iraq were attacking each"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "other's oil tankers to their"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "economies, and it was called the tanker"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "wars. To prevent an oil shock and"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "protect US interest, America sent forces"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "in what was called operation earnest"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "will. The US Navy acted as a kind of"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "maritime peer mediator. However, that"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "same kind of convoy mission today might"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "not be possible. Carl Schuster, a former"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "US Navy captain, said to CNN, quote, \"We"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "don't have the assets to do traditional"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "convoy ops in the straight of Hormuse.\""}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "During Operation Ernest Will, an"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "estimated 40 US warships participated"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "over the course of the operation. But at"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "any given time, typically 10 to 15"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "warships were on station escorting"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "tankers through the straight of"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "Formoose, which is about how many"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "destroyers are in the region right now."}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "But some need to protect the two"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "aircraft carriers and others need to"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "conduct that blockade. This is why"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "maritime experts believe that the US"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "Navy is actually starting with a"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "presence patrol operation instead of a"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "closein escort convoy. At this point,"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "the US Navy had the initial advantage of"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "surprise and may have gotten some ships"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "through, but the rest of the ships are"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "sitting back and waiting to see if the"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "Navy can sustain that kind of high-risk"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "mission. Experts on the Iranian economy"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "are split. Many believe that the IRGC"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "can weather this storm for at least 3 to"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "6 months, though. We're not just"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "soldiers here, we're also monks. Is"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "there any hope that diplomacy could save"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "us all? Iran's latest proposal allegedly"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "would see them agree to a 15-year freeze"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "of uranium enrichment, after which it"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "would resume enriching uranium to only"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "3.6%, the peaceful percent. I'll believe"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "it when I see it. Iran rejected the US"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "demands to totally dismantle nuclear"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "infrastructure and facilities, which"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "appears to be possibly why the United"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "States then decided to push their luck"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "with this escort mission. Iran requested"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "all sanctions be lifted off them and"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "that funds be unfrozen in exchange for"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "this nuclear agreement. If you like this"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "episode, check out this deep dive we did"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "on whether the United States is running"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "low on critical munitions or this"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "playlist here on covert US military"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "operations."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "Experts warn the US military is in"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "danger of running out of critical"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "missiles. They claim US forces burned"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "through 50% of their arsenal in just a"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "few weeks of the war in Iran. The"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "American think tank CSIS warned that"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "it'll take between 2 and 5 years to"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "rebuild America's arsenal at this point."}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "Others claim that it'll take a decade."}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "But is that really the case? Public"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "estimates of weapon stockpiles in the"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "past have been wrong. It was widely"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "reported that Russia would run out of"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "missiles within 3 months of the start of"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "the war in Ukraine. This turned out to"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "be incorrect. The media claimed that"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "Iran was nearly out of missiles in 2025,"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "which also turned out to be wrong. I've"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "been lied to and hurt before in the"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "past. How can I trust you now when you"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "tell me that the US military, which"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "spends a trillion dollars on defense"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "each year, is running out of ammo? Sir,"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "how many tomahawks did we just fire?"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "Yes, Roger. Today, I thought it would be"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "interesting to look deeper at this"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "question. Why is it so hard to estimate"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "a country's classified weapon stockpile?"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "Whose job is it to make sure too many"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "missiles aren't fired? And is the US"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "really running out of ammo? The first"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "way to determine what's left in a"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "stockpile is by looking at the"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "Pentagon's own public estimates. The"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "Pentagon themselves reported that they"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "fired off a gigantic load, striking"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "13,000 Iranian targets in the war. But"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "how much of that was from the critical"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "munition stockpile? Multiple sources"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "state the US expended 850 Tomahawk"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "cruise missiles or about 30% of the"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "total stockpile. Over a thousand of the"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "long range joint air-to-s surface"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "standoff missiles Jasms were then fired"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "from fighter jets, roughly 20% of the"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "inventory. These munitions flew hundreds"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "of miles to blow up heavily defended"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "Iranian ballistic missile launchers deep"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "in the country. Once the skies were"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "safer from that initial standoff"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "strikes, then US forces reportedly"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "switched to dropping thousands of"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "relatively cheap JDAM bombs from F-15"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "bomb trucks with big dumpers. Jams are"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "typically launched from only 15 miles"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "away from their target. The Air Force"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "maintains a gigantic inventory of over"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "200,000 of these and they continue to"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "add 30,000 more per year. Okay, so those"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "aren't going anywhere anytime soon."}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "During the course of the Iran War,"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "Iranian forces fired thousands of drones"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "and missiles in order to defend against"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "that incoming fire. US warships and navy"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "shot off more than 20% of their critical"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "SM3 and SM6 interceptors. This photo"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "allegedly taken on board the USS Ford"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "aircraft carrier says that the closest"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "Iranian missile that got to the aircraft"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "carrier was about 15 miles away, too"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "close for comfort. Meanwhile, on the"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "ground, US forces shot off their Patriot"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "missile interceptors to defend seven"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "different countries in the Gulf. 1,400"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "of these were reportedly depleted, or"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "allegedly about 50% of the rounds. To"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "give you an idea of how intense the"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "initial fighting was, one new report"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "claims that an Iranian F5 fighter jet"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "bombed Camp Buring in Kuwait. Similar"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "burn rates were reported for the army's"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "precision strike missiles fired from"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "highar bad interceptors. But can"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "civilian experts, open- source"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "intelligence, and the media really know"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "these top secret classified numbers? And"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "what is their record of accuracy when it"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "comes to claiming inventories are low?"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "And we're going to get into all that in"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "a minute. But first, today's episode is"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "sponsored by Abacus AI. As a new father,"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "the thing that I use these the most for"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "is questions about my baby. So, I'll ask"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "it, \"How can I be a better father? 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Back"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "to is the US military really running out"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "of ammo? Then in a report from"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "Bloomberg, they said that the vast"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "majority of the remaining 80% of"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "America's Jasm extended range air"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "launched missiles were just allocated to"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "the Middle East, leaving only around 400"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "remaining for the rest of the whole"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "world. Enough to last for 30 days to"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "defend Taiwan. But the real question is"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "whether or not this anonymous source"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "actually has classified access to the"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "full endtoend operational picture of"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "total ammo inventory for America or if"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "they're just speculating based on"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "numbers that they are actually familiar"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "with. Knowing a country's total weapon"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "stockpile is some of the world's most"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "closely guarded and valuable"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "information. In fact, Russia, China, and"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "the United States intelligence services"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "have poured millions of dollars over the"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "past few years into trying to figure out"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "each other's stockpiles and production"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "rates. We know this is the case because"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "of recently declassified intelligence"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "documents. Look at this sanitized top"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "secret assessment of China's growing"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "missile stockpile from 1971, closely"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "tracking their progress. I like how the"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "case officer here writing this report"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "kind of acknowledges how unsure they are"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "about the exact numbers saying quote"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "there might be 10 medium range ballistic"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "missiles may maybe not. These"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "assessments are built from multiple"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "different sources from spies to tracking"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "cargo trucks. However, getting these"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "kind of ammunition numbers as a civilian"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "in the media is a much bigger challenge."}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "Figuring out how many tanks, aircraft,"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "and troops an army has as a civilian is"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "much easier than determining how much"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "ammunition is on the shelf. This is"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "partly because ammunition cannot be seen"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "even with today's satellite images that"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "civilians can purchase. You cannot"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "purchase photos of classified US weapons"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "inventories off Craigslist and and if"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "you do, you might go to prison for it."}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "Ammo is stored in hidden covered"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "warehouses. They're not free balling it"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "out in open fields like main battle"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "tanks. It's buried deeply in forward"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "locations. It's spread out and"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "distributed to thousands of forward"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "bases and outposts around the world and"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "then thousands of separate units. Anyone"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "who's worked retail can appreciate how"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "much of a nightmare doing military"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "inventory is. The Pentagon doesn't make"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "this any easier to track for us. They do"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "not publish total inventories for key"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "munitions. Thanks a lot, Pentagon. They"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "rarely publish numbers of expended"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "munitions. The government does not"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "publish information on surge rate"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "production capacity. So, we're left with"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "guessing based on information cobbled"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "together from public contracts and"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "anonymous sources. Essentially, TMZ"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "levels of credit, but no, no, worse than"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "that. TMZ does some of the best open-"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "source intelligence reports on people"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "out there. The CIA should hire them. But"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "what about the anonymous sources"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "speaking to the press? A major challenge"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "with estimating weapon stockpiles, even"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "for people familiar with some of the"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "spreadsheets around them, is the"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "compartmentalization of information. The"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "way it works is a program officer in the"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "US military will be cleared to know"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "about peace time production rates for a"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "certain type of ammo. Then a sententcom"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "logistics officer in the Middle East"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "will only know the total allocation of"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "missiles to the theater. Then a"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "logistician will know how many missiles"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "their specific ship or unit actually"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "expended in combat. Unless you're a very"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "specific type of highranking general,"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "you won't know all three of these"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "numbers at the same time. The"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "logistician who sees a small slice of"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "the picture can speculate about the rest"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "of the inventory, those numbers, but"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "it'll be incomplete. In reality, there"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "are only about a hundred people total"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "across the highest levels of the US"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "government and military that are in a"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "position to know those three numbers at"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "the same time. Total inventory, how much"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "was expended, and how fast it can be"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "replenished. And those people are not"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "the type that are speaking to the press"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "about it. So, how does the media get a"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "good estimate on pre-existing"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "stockpiles? Then in the US, they start"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "by looking at public weapons contracts"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "like the document here and these defense"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "company announcements here, here, and"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "here. Got to love the"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "military-industrial complex for their"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "press releases. See how this"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "announcement from 2004 shows that up to"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "2,200 Tomahawk missiles would be"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "delivered. Keyword up to. This is one of"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "the ways that they keep the exact number"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "in the inventory uncertain. Meanwhile,"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "in Russia and China, the authorities do"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "not release these contract numbers"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "publicly. So assessing the numbers there"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "is legit doing it on hard mode. However,"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "the US does hide some details. There are"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "classified budget lines which further"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "hide total weapon stockpiles. The last"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "estimate of the US military's black"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "budget is over $80 billion. That's"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "nearly 10% of the entire defense budget."}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "That's where they stick their UFO and"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "anti-gravity research. But the point is,"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "there are a lot of weapons on the shelf"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "that are produced that we and the public"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "aren't privy to. However, despite this,"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "it's actually the total inventory of"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "ammo which are likely to be the most"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "accurate estimates. Because when it"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "comes to the total number of ammo"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "expended in combat and the total"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "production capacity, those are the two"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "variables to the equation which are the"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "most difficult for the public to"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "determine. And we'll learn why. One of"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "the big problems here is there is a big"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "difference between missiles allocated to"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "a war and total missiles expended. If a"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "thousand Tomahawk missiles are allocated"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "to Sententcom for a war, that number is"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "often confused and conflated and"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "simplified by the media to be the total"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "number of actually expended or fired in"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "combat. Alex Muse, former marine, put it"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "this way. Any munition has five distinct"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "quantities associated with it. Total"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "national inventory, the quantity"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "allocated to a theater, the quantity"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "committed to a specific operation, the"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "quantity actually expended. So often the"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "media will collapse those into one"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "category of just used munitions."}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "Typically, US military doctrine is to"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "expend roughly 50% of critical munitions"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "that are allocated to a theater and to"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "leave a buffer room. assuming the high"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "number of missiles fired is accurate."}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "These were accounted for in advanced."}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "They were priced in, so to speak. It's"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "like when you go to the casino and you"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "only take the amount of money with you"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "that you're comfortable with losing. War"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "planning is the same thing. You only"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "take the amount of missiles with you to"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "a war that you're comfortable with"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "losing. So, whose job is it to make sure"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "the US doesn't fire too many missiles?"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "Is is it that guy? Is it Is it this guy"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "here? Looks like it's this guy's job."}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "This field manual, JP40 Logistics,"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "outlines how war reserve munition"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "planning actually works. Joint Munitions"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "Office JMO plans all phases of"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "ammunition support for forces. JMO"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "typically has a mix of munitions and"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "logistics planners from each service. Of"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "particular importance are joint critical"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "munitions which are the set of"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "precisiong guided munitions with limited"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "inventories absolutely essential to"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "prosecuting required targets and for"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "which there are no suitable secondary"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "standard munitions alternatives. So the"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "joint munitions office is in charge of"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "making sure the allocated amount of"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "critical munitions do not run too low."}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "They've been doing this since 2002,"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "managing 18 arsenal depots and ammo"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "plants across the world worth $70"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "billion. Everything from bullets to"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "missiles. An interesting way to estimate"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "the stockpile is we know that Joint"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "Munitions Command revealed that they"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "look after $39 billion worth of"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "missiles. And an anonymous source said"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "that $5.6 billion worth of missiles were"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "fired in the first two days of the war,"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "which is about 15%. JMO has 14,000"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "personnel and they have a budget of a"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "billion dollars just to do this one job"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "to make sure the US military manages its"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "ammo inventory correctly. But it's the"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "guys in JMO and logistics who make sure"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "they can sustain the fight. Take a look"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "at the United States Patriot Pack 3"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "missile interceptors fired off in the"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "Iran War. How did experts conclude 1,400"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "were fired? They didn't have someone"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "standing there counting every time a"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "Patriot fired its missile off. And if"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "they did, can I have that job? It sounds"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "cool. The estimate is actually arrived"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "at by assuming typical burn rates given"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "how many missiles Iran fired. Some"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "estimates place the total inventory of"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "patriots to be at 13,000 rounds. So that"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "would mean it's closer to 15 or 10% that"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "were fired. The number of how many"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "munitions are expended in a war are"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "reverse engineered, which is a fancy way"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "of saying they guessed. One capability"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "that we do know for a fact is running"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "low on missiles is the long range"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "hypersonic Dark Eagle. The US is"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "considering deploying this to the Middle"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "East to Iran for the first time in"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "combat ever. It was developed to knock"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "out ballistic missiles on mainland China"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "originally from over 1,800 m away, and"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "it reaches those targets in just 20"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "minutes, so the enemy can't escape after"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "firing. It's got a small warhead of"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "about 60 lb on it that fires out"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "fragments like shrapnel over a grid"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "square area. But its real power is in"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "its kinetic energy. The thing is going"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "at Mach 5. If you even fling a sandbag"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "at that speed, it's like a stick of"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "dynamite. And this probably weighs 1,000"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "lb. But there's a challenge. There are"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "only eight of these missiles in the"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "inventory currently, and they're $15"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "million a shot. It could, of course,"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "make other launchers in Iran think twice"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "about firing and revealing their"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "position. But is it even worth expending"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "this type of bespoke, nice, fancy ammo?"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "If we assume all the numbers are correct"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "though, and 50% of most critical"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "munitions really were expended, would"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "the US be low on ammunition? It's hard"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "to tell because the next number that you"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "need to know in the stockpile equation"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "is production capacity. This is the"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "number that the media and experts both"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "have been the least accurate in"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "determining. 6 months after the start of"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "the war in Ukraine, analysts from the"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "Center for Strategic and International"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "Studies, CSIS, said that the majority of"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "Russian missiles left remaining were"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "only old Soviet anti-aircraft S300"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "missiles. They said Russia can't"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "continue that level of effort very long."}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "This assessment made a lot of sense at"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "the time. Many anonymous US officials"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "were also saying to the media that"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "Russia was just a few months away from"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "running out of ammo. They were estimated"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "to have depleted between 50 and 80% of"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "their ballistic missiles after the first"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "few months of the war. This Pentagon"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "official claimed that Russia would be"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "out of ammo by 2023. But these reports"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "turned out to be inaccurate in hindsight"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "and gave an unclear misleading picture"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "of the war in the beginning. Where was"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "all this information coming from? It"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "came from the top a lot of time. US"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "Defense Secretary at the time Lloyd"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "Austin said, quote, \"I'm not sure Russia"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "has those kind of munitions to be able"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "to support that going forward.\" End"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "quote. Britain's Ministry of Defense"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "also publicly said that Russia had"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "likely expended a large portion of its"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "stocks of Iscandeer short-range"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "ballistic missiles in the opening of the"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "war. And they weren't entirely wrong"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "either. Early on, it looked like"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "sanctions would drastically slow down"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "any future weapons production. But then"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "something unexpected happened that"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "changed the whole equation. By a year"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "later, in 2023, experts had reversed"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "course. They wrote that Russia was not"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "going to run out of missiles anytime"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "soon. In 2025, CSIS said that the"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "ability to fire nearly 150 ballistic"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "missiles in a single month shows that"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "despite sanctions and battlefield"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "attrition, Russia's strike"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "infrastructure remains resilient and"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "capable of periodic surges. In 2026,"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "Russia continues to launch barges of"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "hundreds of precision missiles. How"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "could these early estimates of ammo and"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "missile stockpiles be so far off? How"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "could Russia, that spends $167 billion a"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "year on defense, only a small fraction"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "of what the US spends on defense, manage"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "to not run low on ammo? There are a lot"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "of really interesting reasons why this"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "is the case, and it gets to the heart of"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "why estimating total ammo is so"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "difficult. Russia devoted an enormous"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "amount of resources to surge production"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "capacity for missiles at the expense of"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "many other industries in their economy."}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "They sacrificed more than experts had"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "anticipated that they would. Russia"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "turned their economy into a wartime"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "footing focused on producing weapons of"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "all kinds. North Korea delivered"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "millions of artillery shells. Iran,"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "China delivered drone and missile"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "components that helped circumvent"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "sanctions. Because of these variables"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "that experts did not account for or"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "couldn't account for, they got it wrong."}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "This is because surge production has the"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "most variables to account for. And the"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "same case is true in America. Rathon"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "just publicly announced the annual"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "Tomahawk missile production is scaling"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "up to over a thousand missiles per year,"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "but it's unclear what numbers they will"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "actually reach and when. These estimates"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "do not take into account emergency"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "authorities like the Defense Production"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "Act, which can change the speed of"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "production by an order of magnitude."}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "Russia and Ukraine did their own version"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "of this in the war. In 2025, there were"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "multiple reports that Iran was running"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "out of ballistic missiles after the"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "initial 12-day war with the United"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "States and Israel. This CNN analyst team"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "assessed Iran could have as few as 300"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "to,300 medium range missiles left in"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "their inventory. This turned out to be"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "wrong though. Why? Partly because Iran"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "surged missile production way faster"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "than most experts had expected. We've"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "been hearing about how the US military"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "has been running low on missiles for"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "years now. Ever since Javelin missiles"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "were sent to Ukraine, we've heard"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "reports of shortages. Then when the Navy"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "sent their fleet to the Red Sea to fight"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "against the Houthis, we heard missiles"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "were low again. We've heard that the"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "interceptor missiles were heavily"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "depleted during the 12-day war. The"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "Pentagon, meanwhile, is asking for $70"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "billion to ramp up missile production to"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "restock. But the most pressing real"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "danger of munition shortfalls, I think,"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "is not that the US military is close to"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "running out of ammo yet. First, it means"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "that US allies may go without ammo, and"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "that's what we're seeing happen today."}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "Japan will get Tomahawk missiles much"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "later than expected. This could mean"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "delays in deliveries for Ukraine, who"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "may get less or no air defense missile"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "interceptors to defend themselves. The"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "same case could be true in Taiwan. The"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "US takes inventory from its allies way"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "before they reach warning levels for"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "their own stockpiles. The countries that"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "will hurt from this the most are US"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "allies that depend on these deliveries."}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "This has a major impact on geopolitics."}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "We saw Russia choose not to send air"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "defense and weapons to their allies"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "recently. And this may have been because"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "stockpiles were enough to fight in"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "Ukraine, but not enough left over to arm"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "allies. Russia chose not to send"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "missiles to Venezuela or Iran before the"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "US took military action there. The US"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "military maintains what's called war"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "reserve stocks for allies, Israel, which"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "is billions of dollars worth of missiles"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "and artillery shells positioned in"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "Israel. There are other similar"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "classified war reserve inventories"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "around the world that the US would first"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "pull into and dip into and take from"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "before strategic reserves. The US could"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "increasingly find itself making the same"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "type of difficult decisions that Russia"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "has had to make in places like Syria,"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "Venezuela, and Iran. The other real"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "point of pain is that replacing these"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "stockpiles of missile inventories is"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "extremely expensive to taxpayers. It'll"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "cost millions of dollars to replace"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "these spent systems. Regardless of if"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "the US is running low on ammo or not,"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "it's likely that the war in Iran has"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "cost tens of billions of dollars so far."}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "And that is really what this CSIS"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "publication is saying. It's not saying"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "the US is running low on ammo. It's"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "saying the US may have to make difficult"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "tradeoffs in the future if the war"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "continues. One of the problems with"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "overinvesting in stockpiles is risk of"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "it not being needed. Experts warned that"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "the US forces were running low on"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "Javelin missiles when they were sending"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "them to Ukraine at the start of the war."}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "It was a reasonable concern at the time"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "given the information on the ground."}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "However, these variables changed in the"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "war because not even a year later,"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "Ukraine had started replacing the use of"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "javelins with drones. The US"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "military-industrial complex is also"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "moving towards lowcost, high volume"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "missiles, drones, and interceptors for"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "future wars. Weapon stockpiles that are"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "needed at the start of a war are not"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "always the same ones needed later phases"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "of a war. If estimating weapon"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "stockpiles are difficult and have often"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "proven to be wrong in the past, why is"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "this information leaked to the media to"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "begin with? There are several"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "interesting motivations for why"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "anonymous officials leak and release"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "information that Russian stockpiles were"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "low, for instance. One of the reasons is"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "psychological to create panic in your"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "adversary. Leakers are hoping that some"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "Russian troops will believe the dire"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "reports. These reports have been used as"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "a way to influence the public into"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "accepting higher defense spending. John"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "F. Kennedy during the 1960s argued the"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "US was falling behind the Soviet Union"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "in ICBM production to justify higher"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:57", "text": "spending. In reality, the US actually"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "had more operational ICBM missiles than"}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "the USSR at the time. On the other hand,"}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "some reports of stockpiles being"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "depleted were released to influence the"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "US public into not supporting sending"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "more weapons to Ukraine. There is always"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "this element of trying to influence the"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "public with assessments of weapon"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "stockpiles. It's long been a part of the"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:19", "text": "information or propaganda war. Early in"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "the war in Ukraine, news of low Russian"}, {"start": "00:20:19", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "stockpiles were used to drum up support"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "and investing in Ukraine's defense was"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "vital because victory was close. We only"}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "can assess their accuracy months later."}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "Ultimately, who is responsible for"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "ensuring munitions aren't overused?"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:35", "text": "That's the chairman of the Joint Chiefs"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "of Staff, Dan Kaine. Specifically, he"}, {"start": "00:20:35", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "has the job of making sure strategic"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "stockpiles are enough for other"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "contingencies. The amount of offensive"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "weapons that they commit to a fight"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "takes that into account. But one thing"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "has remained true throughout all these"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "assessments of weapon stockpiles over"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "the years. Somehow time and time again,"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:55", "text": "humanity seems to run out of people to"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "throw at a war long before they run out"}, {"start": "00:20:55", "end": "00:21:00", "text": "of weapons. Check out this video here on"}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:21:02", "text": "the US Army's new 30 mm rifle with"}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "explosive bullets. I got to be the first"}, {"start": "00:21:02", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "one to shoot the prototype or this"}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "playlist here. I'm your average"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "infantryman, Chris Cappy. Thank you guys"}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "for watching and ending."}]

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The"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "precision grenadier system fires"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "explosive rounds in a flat trajectory at"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "680 ft per second at point targets 500 m"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "away. Since the 1990s, the US military"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "has been trying but failing to add and"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "adapt a capability like this organic to"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "the squad level. We'll see how this new"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "PGS learned from the mistakes of its"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "predecessors, though. There were"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "complaints about the Army's old XM25"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "grenade rifle not killing the enemy."}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "That's why this new weapon's 30x 42mm"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "grenades are now twice as powerful. The"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "defense company Mars Inc. invited me out"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "to beautiful Montana to be the first to"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "test fire the weapon and to show me how"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "new precision manufacturing and advanced"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "fire control systems make this not your"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "daddy's air burst rifle. really only"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "have about 14 months to develop a system"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "and then deliver prototypes to the army"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "so they can start six-month testing."}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:24", "text": ">> First, we'll start by going over the"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "Precision Grenadier Systems five main"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "types of ammunition, which are the air"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "burst, the proximity, close quarters"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "combat, counter drone, and anti-armour."}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "Finally, we'll get into the weapon's new"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "tactics, how it fits into the squad, and"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "why shooting it feels like a war crime."}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "It fires from a magazine of five rounds."}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "You keep the magazine in pouches on your"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "kit."}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:48", "text": ">> So if I am carrying a 200 round drum of"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "saw, I can put two of those magazines in"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "this."}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:52", "text": ">> The way your air burst grenade works is"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "you push a button on your fire control"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "computer optic that sends out a quick"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "laser designation that tells you exactly"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "how far away your enemy target is. 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Single shot."}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "So, by the book, your 30x 42 millimeter"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "grenade has a lethal radius of 5 meters"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "or about 16 feet, but in practice, you"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "usually are going to need a direct hit"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "for a kill. This blast pattern, though,"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "is designed to explode along the trench"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "line, taking out an entire section. I"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "was shocked by the weapon's accuracy."}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "Mars Inc. says that it's 2 minute of"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "angle at 100 m, which means it hits"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "within 2 in at that distance. I fired at"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "the target 300 m away with rapid"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "semi-automatic fire four times. Each"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "round landed within a tight 1 m"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "grouping. I purposely aimed above the"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "target there so you could see the dirt"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "kicking up on the point of impact"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:38", "text": ">> because I can put lethal radius grenade"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "anywhere I want out to 500 m, including"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "inside of a port hole of a bunker. There"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "is no other weapon that can do that."}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:49", "text": ">> Oh my god, that's crazy. We just put a"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "round right on this guy's face."}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:54", "text": ">> I pushed out to 400 m because that was"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "the max distance of the range that we"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "were shooting on. I had no problem"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "landing shots on target and its max"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "effective range has been tested out to"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "500 m. This feels like a semi-automatic"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "grenade sniper rifle."}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:08", "text": ">> Yes,"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:09", "text": ">> it is the first squad level organic"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "weapon system with what's called"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "counterdeilate, meaning it counters"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "enemies hiding behind cover. This"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "counterdeilade round is designed to"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "precisely and quickly defeat personnel"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "targets by the army's request."}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:22", "text": ">> You know, this is a different"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "philosophy. This is a different mindset"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "where precision is king."}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:29", "text": ">> Standard load out for ammunition for the"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "new Grenadier is 50 rounds for this"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "role. Each shot weighing about 155 g."}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "The old 40mm M203 and M320 grenade"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "launchers. Its accuracy is 4 m"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "horizontal by 2 m vertical on a point"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "target at 150 m."}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:47", "text": ">> They're really they're indirect fire"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "systems. So you're kind of you're doing"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "a lot of guess work. That feels about"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "right if you're going off vibes."}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:55", "text": ">> Look at how all the old grenade"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "launchers are limited by their heavily"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "arc trajectory. That path for the"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "grenade makes hitting trenches and"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "pillbox fortifications nearly"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "impossible. Meanwhile, the precision"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "grenadine system has a nearly flat"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "trajectory, even out to 400 meters and"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "beyond. 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Scan the QR code up here or"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "go to dronecloneexperts.com."}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "Show them some support for letting us"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "shoot down a drone today. Really"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "appreciate it."}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:09", "text": ">> Right now, this system weighs about 15"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "lbs on this generation 1. A little bit"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "less than your M249 saw."}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:13", "text": ">> Hopefully better center of balance. When"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "the barrel is lighter and you have the"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "weight center further back, it's going"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "to be much, much better. Some of you"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "guys in the comment section called it a"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "morbidly obese AR rifle. It is a big"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "chunky boy. But because of its compact"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "size at only about 35 in in overall"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "length, it's easier to wield and carry"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "when you're patrolling with it. The"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "whole thing is mostly mil out of steel"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "with precision machines."}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:41", "text": ">> Aren't you glad we made it lighter"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "before it got into the gun?"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:44", "text": ">> So, you're carrying an upper receiver"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "right now. Well done. It's not optimized"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "using more expensive lightweight"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "titanium quite yet on this early gen"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "one. Future versions are going to be"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "lighter at about 11 pounds. This version"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "is made from a chopped up piece of an"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "old A10 Warthog gun barrel. The barrel"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "is only 12 in long. And I got to see"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "where the A10 barrel is just sitting in"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "their office that they cut it down from."}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "And so the comedon of the infantry said,"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "\"I want two per war fighting squad. I"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "want to take the M4 or M7 with the 320."}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "I want to take that out and I want to"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "put a precision grenadier system in. So,"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "this is the new Grenadier and it will be"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "their primary assigned weapon system."}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:22", "text": ">> That means if you're in the grenadier"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "role, you won't be carrying an M7 or an"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "M4 as a secondary. You might have a"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "pistol, but this is your primary weapon,"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "which would mean it would make up 20% of"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "the weapons in your whole entire"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "platoon."}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:35", "text": ">> The number one challenge in building a"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "gun of this size and this potential is"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "how do you deal with the recoil? This is"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "a handheld cannon. It's a handheld"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "mortar tube."}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:44", "text": ">> Firing it has a lot of recoil. You need"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "to be prepared to shoulder it like a big"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "boy. It feels similar to firing like a"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "shotgun or a 300 Winchester Magnum"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "rifle, sniper rifle, or getting punched"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "in the shoulder. The felt recoil impulse"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "is actually unique. Mars Inc., their"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "patent pending system uses two recoil"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "reduction mechanisms. It's a long recoil"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "operation and a pneumatic damper. It"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "works on atmospheric pressure error."}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:09", "text": ">> And this is an adjustable pneumatic"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "damper with a couple of Allen keys."}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "That's just to resist the rotation of"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "the damper."}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:14", "text": ">> I've got a big barrel spring in here"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "around the barrel. The barrel"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "reciprocates 9 in this thing."}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:20", "text": ">> This spreads out the feeling over time,"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "which dampens that recoil."}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:24", "text": ">> It is a recoil operated gun. No gas in"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "this. This isn't a gas piston. It isn't"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "gas impingement, just recoil operated."}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:30", "text": ">> And the pressure from firing it is"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "actually relatively low at about 8,000"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "PSI. The next ammunition many will"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "consider to be the most important type."}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "It's the proximity fuse explosive round."}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "This is what you will normally use for"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "counter drone warfare. Look at the first"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "20% of just the tip of the grenade."}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "That's where the fuse is located. It has"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "about five different types of safeties"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "built into it. So, it's almost idiot"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "proof. This way, I can't blow my whole"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "squad up just by dropping the spicy"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "meatball. That would be embarrassing."}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "But, it's also where on a proximity"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "munition, it detects where the enemy"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "drone is. It uses a classified type of"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "sensor. Most likely from what we know,"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "it's a radio waves or some kind of RF"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "frequency to detect when it's within"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "about 5 meters of the drone. The grenade"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "basically has a tiny radar on the nose"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "that looks for nearby drones and then it"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "throws explosive fragments at it. When"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "it gets near an enemy drone, the radar"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "returns a spike instantly and this"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "triggers the fuse and it intercepts it."}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "So, it explodes and sends out another"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "unique blast pattern. The blast pattern"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "for the proximity version is forward and"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "slightly to the sides. It's kind of like"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "an airbururst claymore that detects when"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "to explode."}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:41", "text": ">> This is definitely not a mass ammo"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "weapon. This isn't spray and prey. This"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "is precision highly effective shots at"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "intentional targets."}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:50", "text": ">> The precision grenade gun has a rate of"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "fire of about 30 rounds per minute. What"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "all that means is I could fire six times"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "faster and with about 7,000% more"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "accuracy compared to the old M203 and"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "M320 grenade launcher or the M32. Time"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "to engagement is an extremely important"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "metric when looking at new weapon"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "systems. From the time of deciding to"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "pull the trigger on a target to putting"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "rounds on that target takes about 3"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "seconds. Then there is the close"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "quarters combat shotgun munition for"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "when you want to clear an entire room"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "with one shot. This 30 mm shotgun shell"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "here packs four times the amount of"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "firepower and pellets compared to a 12"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "gauge shotgun. So in a typical 12 gauge,"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "you have about 8 to 15 pellets in there"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "for buckshot. This has 42 single buck"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "pellets in here. Imagine firing once and"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "having the firepower of four shotguns"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "going off in a room. This is my"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "boomstick."}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:47", "text": ">> A group of people rushing you. You're in"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "a near ambush and you have a reflexive"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "shot. You ready up and you pull the"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "trigger with a CQB round in the chamber."}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "You just took out three"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "shoulder-to-shoulder enemies in a single"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "shot."}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:59", "text": ">> You typically want to be within about 35"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "m of your target with this type of"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "round. The size of the holes that are"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "ripped into the targets near me were"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "crazy. Just giant heaping massive"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "chunks. Would I want to kick in a door"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "clear room with this? Probably not. The"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "recoil is too high and it's too heavy."}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "But you could do it in a pinch. The"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "army's also working on an anti-armour"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "round that cuts through lightly armored"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "vehicles."}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:22", "text": ">> Tungsten penetrator in one of these"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "rounds. I can make you a Sabo round like"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "a tank. Or I can make it to where it has"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "dual stage. It has an explosive tip and"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "a tungsten follower. It uses a shape"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "charge to accomplish this. And in"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "practice, it threatens enemy armor"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "without needing a fullsized anti-tank"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "rocket launcher. The whole idea behind"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "the grenade rifle, the grenadier, is"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "that in contested environments, you"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "won't be able to call in air support A10"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "warthogs all the time to take out enemy"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "in fortified positions anymore. Regular"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "infantry won't be able to call in mortar"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "fire as often in remote locations."}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "You'll be out in the middle of nowhere"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "on an island cut off. This means you'll"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "need a weapon organic at the squad level"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "that can get the job done."}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:04", "text": ">> Now, the battle drill should say, \"Take"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "out groups of enemies. take out machine"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "gun imp placements before you maneuver."}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:10", "text": ">> But when it comes to reliability, it's"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "hard to judge right now because this is"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "an early prototype weapon. Right now,"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "it's more of a proof of concept phase."}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:19", "text": ">> 6-mon testing will be reliability,"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "durability, contaminants, salt fog,"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "dropping on the concrete and all that,"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "and soldier touch points."}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:27", "text": ">> There are now four different companies"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "competing to win this new bit. Northrup"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "Grumman's version of the system is"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "sticking with that same old 25mm"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "grenade. Barrett, Mars, and FN are using"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "a 30 millimeter grenade, and Rhymatl is"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "using a 40 millimeter system. The US"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "Army has been trying to field an air"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "burst grenade rifle since the early"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "1990s. So, what is different here?"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "Because HK failed with their 20mm XM29,"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "the OICW program, and then they failed"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "again with the XM25, the 25mm Punisher,"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "and they failed with the XM 109 sniper"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "grenade rifle. There were several"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "reasons why the XM25 failed that these"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "weapons are attempting to address those"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "problems. This new variant from Mars"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "Inc. is said to be about 50,000 or less"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "per unit once the design is fully"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "completed. The XM25 was too heavy. Its"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "fire control systems didn't work well"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "and the whole thing was too expensive at"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "about 100,000 per gun. Troops didn't"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "like the bullpup style of the old"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "weapon. Bull pups just feel gross to a"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "lot of soldiers. The XM25 had a double"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "feed issue that simply set off an ammo's"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "primer once and that round didn't"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "explode fully, but it allegedly slightly"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "injured the soldier firing it. Either"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "way, that alone was a major safety"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "concern. Then there are a number of"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "rumors. 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It's also not a good idea to put"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "everything on one viewer, right? It's"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "best to have a constellation of viewers"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "uh independently viewing the same target"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:38", "text": ">> like in separate rooms blind completely."}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:40", "text": ">> Yep. And then looking at taking the"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "correlation of those things and seeing"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "where things match."}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:44", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:46", "text": ">> And then that's those are more likely to"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "be correct. But it's not like a"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "failsafe. It's always right 100% of the"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "time. It's going to I think usually it's"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "around for a good viewer maybe 60%"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "accurate. But you know, if I just give"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "you pencil and paper and tell you to"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "describe literally anything in the"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "universe"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:03", "text": ">> and I'm 60% accurate, sign me up, chief."}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:05", "text": ">> Yeah. And you're 60% accurate,"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "something's going on. Like something is"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "something is accurate."}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:10", "text": ">> What What do we know about that science?"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "I've talked to different people about"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "this, but you're pretty deep into it."}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "Because before I actually ask that"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "question, the one part where I've had"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "conversations with different remote"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "viewers or people that have been around"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "remote viewers where they'll make a"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "claim where I'm like, I don't know about"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "that, is when they'll say, well,"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "technically most people can actually tap"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "into this and do this. And actually, my"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "friend Dr. Julia Mossbridge, who's"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "amazing, she I believe she was even"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "saying something like that. That was the"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "one thing where I'm like, Julia, I feel"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "like, you know, if you're doing this,"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "that's one thing, but you know, I I"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "don't know if me, Joe, and Nacho are"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "going to start seeing [ __ ] you know,"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "Iraqi prisons in two seconds right now"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "if we had to lock in and do it. So, what"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "is the science that allows at least some"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "people to do it? And what is the what is"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "the, in your opinion, the"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "validity of an argument from people like"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "Julia that might say a lot of people"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "could technically do it?"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:07", "text": ">> Yeah. So, a number of things to unpack."}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "So number one, when they were first"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "coming up with this protocol, they were"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "doing these outbounder experiments,"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "right? 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But"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "the reason it's not more widespread in"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "my opinion, and this is my opinion, is"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "that does our intelligence community"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "really want like two middle-aged women"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "like remote viewing Langley, Virginia at"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "like and then posting it on Twitter?"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:31", "text": ">> That's the thing. Where does it stop?"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "You know, like you can't put like a"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "[ __ ] iron dome of remote viewing"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "around any place. There are there are"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "there are means to do it, but but a"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "Faraday cage ain't going to do it,"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "right? Like it works through Faraday"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "cages. So, it's not"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:49", "text": ">> um I don't want to say it's not"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "electromagnetic, but there's it's like a"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "non-local form of perception. You're"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "talking about quantum mechanics, um"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "uh quantum coupling, that sort of stuff"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "because everybody's connected. This"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "this, you know, you hear this kind of"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "like a mantra, but there's something"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:08", "text": ">> something to that. um in terms of sorry"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "where was was the question again?"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:13", "text": ">> Well I was talking about what is the"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "what is the science behind being able to"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "do it and the other part of it was like"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "which is kind of what you were just"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "talking about which is well could"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "everyone technically do it that kind of"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "thing."}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:23", "text": ">> So the answer to that is most people"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "have the capacity to do it but it takes"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "it's like anything it requires practice"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "in terms of the science I've heard a"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "variety of different explanations. So at"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "the biological level, the person that"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "you want to look at is a remote viewer"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "called Edward Rearen."}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:42", "text": ">> Now he doesn't have a science"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "background. He's not a biologist. He's"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "arrived at the way he think it works"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "entirely through his own kind of"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "perception, remote viewing. So again,"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "I'd have to like there's a whole episode"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "I do with him on this and I'm not queued"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "in, but there's"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "some parts of the brain. And I think"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "this like CA3 component of the brain is"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "somehow related. The call date patamon"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "is also"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:12", "text": ">> somewhat related to it. And then there's"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "a way that it the you know the you"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "receive kind of think of the information"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "that people receive from non-local"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "consciousness is like just cloud"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "computing, right? And then the brain is"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "a transceiver. So it comes from"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "somewhere and then your brain detects,"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "decodes and objectifies this information"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "as it comes in."}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:35", "text": ">> That's right."}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:37", "text": ">> Yeah. So that's kind of the biological"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "side of it. And then as it starts going"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "through your brain, it passes through"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "all those parts of the brain that again"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "I not an expert on it. And this is just"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "and it's also his own perception"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:50", "text": ">> in terms of how I think a David Moore"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "house has described it. And you know,"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "we'll get into, you know, you've I'm"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "sure heard of it Bentov and"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:58", "text": ">> Mhm. Morehouse has done a couple great"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "podcasts with Danny in the past, but"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "yeah, there's a lot of legendary names"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "here."}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:06", "text": ">> Yeah. So,"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "well, so the way he would explain it is"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "there's this eight-dimensional"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "holographic field, right? And what we're"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "doing is we're trying we're accessing"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "that field and we're trying to collapse"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "that data into three-dimensional or"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "actually four-dimensional space time,"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "right? Because there's a time component,"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "the fourth dimension and"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "you're just kind of reaching out that"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "information everybody is able to access."}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "There are also and this is this kind of"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "goes separately. I'm taking kind of"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "another uh area of physics that I know"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "very little about but is similar and"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "this is um E8 like the E8 lattice theory"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "right which again it's like this reality"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "is some eight dimensional hyper cube and"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "there are little tiny crystals that are"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "part of it that are of plank length"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "right and reality is our reality is"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "basically a projection of that into"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "lower dimension so think of it as like a"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "shadow of a higher dimension"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "And it's built out of something they"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "call quasi crystals. There's something"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "about lie groups. Don't ask me what a"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "lie group is. It's a some I'm not a"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "physicist, but that is could also be a"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "similar mechanism to what Morehouse was"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "explaining."}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:25", "text": ">> How do you how do you spell lie group?"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "Is it LE?"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "Can we pull that up, Die?"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:31", "text": ">> Yeah, you're you're going to get like"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "physicist gibberish like it's going to"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "be like"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:36", "text": ">> Well, let's try to decode it in in New"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "Jersey right here. See what we got."}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:40", "text": ">> Oh, we're looking at the IQing, huh?"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:43", "text": ">> Well, we had that earlier."}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:44", "text": ">> Yeah, L. You're going to get some like"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:46", "text": ">> lie groups and remote sensing scene"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "classification."}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "That sounds about right. Right."}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:53", "text": ">> A"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:56", "text": ">> Yeah, it's mathematics, too. So, it's"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "like lie groupoups are applied."}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:00", "text": ">> Yeah, you already searched."}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:03", "text": ">> Put put E8 lattice liroup."}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "Is that how you spell you want to spell?"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "The E8 lattice is a highly symmetric"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "eightdimensional structure linked to the"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "largest exceptional lie group containing"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "two 240 root points. I understood all"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "that. I just want to be very clear."}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "Yeah, I know exactly. I'm picking up"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "what they're lifting."}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:19", "text": ">> Yeah, the root points are pretty pretty"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "uh pretty important."}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:23", "text": ">> It acts as a go back to that D. Sorry."}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "It acts as a potential foundation for"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "unified field theories notably used by a"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "Garrett Lei to suggest a connection"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "between particles forces and gravity."}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "The 248 dimensional E8 lie group"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "represents a complex eight-dimensional"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "crystal structure. It sounds really"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "cool."}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:43", "text": ">> Yeah. So that's that only is a potential"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "explanation for remote viewing. It's"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "also a potential explanation for what's"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "going on with when people talk about"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "interdimensional beings and stuff like"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "that. This is an explanation for that."}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:57", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. If every if every reality is"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "a shadow of this other reality, right?"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "You you change an object, there be"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "there'll be like an infinite number of"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "overlapping shadows. So, think of a"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "reality or dimen. I don't The thing that"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "pisses me off is every time one of these"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "like"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "whistleblowers, they're not"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "whistleblowers. You know how you know"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "they're not whistleblowers? Because"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "they're still alive. So, um I'm just,"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "you know, so they've been"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "they've been allowed to talk about"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "whatever they're talking about. Like"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "obviously they've been cleared to talk"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "about it."}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:30", "text": ">> So whenever they talk about"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "interdimensional"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "like interdimensionality like that, like"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "they never explain what that means,"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "right? Like I think Eric Weinstein was"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "on Twitter like he was constantly"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "complaining about why are there no"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "physicists blah blah blah blah. But he's"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "got a point in the sense that like no"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "one ever explains what they mean by"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "interdimensional beings. Like what does"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "that mean? Does that mean like different"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "realities? They're overlapping."}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:54", "text": ">> Does it mean like what Philip K. Dick"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "did in Man in the High Tower where"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "they're just going between dimensions of"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "actual reality?"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:09:59", "text": ">> I think that's exactly what it means,"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "but no one's no one ever defines it."}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "They just talk about it. But I think"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "that's what this um E8 lattice theory"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "kind of explains."}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:08", "text": ">> Thank you guys for watching the episode."}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "If you haven't already, please hit that"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "subscribe button and smash that like"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "button on the video. They're both a"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "huge, huge help. And if you would like"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "to follow me on Instagram and X, those"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "links are in my description below."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "But it gets better. Anderson was signed"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "by P Model Management in 2005 for a"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "modeling gig in Milan. She appeared on"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "the cover of a handful of lesserk known"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "magazines. Couldn't quite cut it. Like"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "Quest and Society. Never heard of him."}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:16", "text": ">> I like that."}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:16", "text": ">> I I kind of like that. Those are hard"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "names."}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:22", "text": ">> I'd like to submit a piece."}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:23", "text": ">> No, I'm not. I'm just saying he's"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:25", "text": ">> Who's the actor that has an island?"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "Somebody. Can we Google that? Famous"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "actor owns island. I think it rhymes"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "with a certain"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:34", "text": ">> Leonardo Bonapio."}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:36", "text": ">> Um, there's several actually."}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:36", "text": ">> All right, but is it the is the Grey Fox"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "one of them?"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:41", "text": ">> Actually, I wasn't wrong. Leonardo"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "DiCaprio does own a private island. So"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "does Johnny Depp, Mel Gibson, and Eddie"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "Murphy."}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:50", "text": ">> Oh, Mel Mel owns one."}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:54", "text": ">> Wow. Leonardo's got one in Bise. 104"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "acres that he got in 2005 with plans to"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "develop an eco-friendly resort. He's"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "working on it."}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:00", "text": ">> That's why he's doing it."}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:00", "text": ">> It's all for the climate."}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:03", "text": ">> Um,"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:05", "text": ">> don't accuse Leo of anything."}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:07", "text": ">> Yeah, dude. Bro, Mel Gibson"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:12", "text": ">> Mel Gibson has an island where"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:14", "text": ">> a 5400 acre island in Fiji."}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:15", "text": ">> That's a pretty big [ __ ] island."}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:16", "text": ">> That's [ __ ] huge."}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:20", "text": ">> In Fiji."}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:21", "text": ">> In Fiji. Mago Island."}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "Wow."}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:24", "text": ">> I guess Mel wanted to get far away from"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "the Jews."}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:32", "text": ">> I mean, it adds up."}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:34", "text": ">> Who else? And then Eddie Murphy owns"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "Rooster K, which is located in the"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "Bahamas. It doesn't say."}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:41", "text": ">> Rooster K in the Bahamas."}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:42", "text": ">> I mean, there's a bunch of others. Tyler"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "Perry, MC, and Richard Branson."}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:46", "text": ">> Oh, boy. Well, we know about You know"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "what's really funny? Side note here."}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:50", "text": ">> we'll come back to Betina in a second,"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "but"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:55", "text": ">> Richard Branson never gets talked about"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "in these files"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:00", "text": ">> and he and he's in them. I'm saying like"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "he never gets talked about publicly as"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "someone and this is like a world famous"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "billionaire CEO, longtime celebrated"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "playboy. That's what he was."}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:13", "text": ">> Oh, I thought he was a virgin."}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:17", "text": ">> Oh, yeah. That's right. I Well, that was"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "the marketing. But, you know, like Obama"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "left office and then went and with his"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "wife and chilled with Richard Branson in"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "in the in the Virgin Islands and"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "everything and like Richard is known as"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "like"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:31", "text": ">> the [ __ ] real life billionaire I"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "don't know Hugh Hefner if you will."}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "Probably not a perfect comparison,"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:37", "text": ">> but yet he never really like people"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "don't bring him up online. There's not"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "these rabbit holes about him and"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "everything despite the fact that he was"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "close. He was not that far away from"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "Jeffrey Epstein, similar part of the"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "world, and also knew him and had"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "connections. Maybe we can Google some of"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "that because we haven't done a ton of"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "work on that."}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:53", "text": ">> But like that's kind of interesting,"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:57", "text": ">> Maybe he's got the phone logs from"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "Virgin Mobile. He's got audio and he's"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "like, \"Hey guys, you're not going to do"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "shit.\""}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:03", "text": ">> He helped them find all the guys in the"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "Middle East."}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:05", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:06", "text": ">> And then some Americans that they didn't"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "like while they could violate our"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "constitution."}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:11", "text": ">> Hit him on that hotline bling. He got"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "hotline bling, boy. Well, he wouldn't"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "say it like that cuz he's like British"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "and [ __ ] right?"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:19", "text": ">> Be like hotline hotline bling."}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:21", "text": ">> Yeah, that's right. Nacho like that one."}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "We got Nacho in here filming some behind"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "the scenes and"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:24", "text": ">> Oh, yeah."}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:26", "text": ">> taking pictures in the studio. Does it"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "now every other week does a great job."}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "So, shout out Nacho."}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:29", "text": ">> Shout out Nacho."}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:30", "text": ">> But yeah, we'll we'll look at the"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "Richard Branson thing a little bit. I"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "just find that really interesting."}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:36", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:38", "text": ">> That that hasn't come up. So Betatina"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "though I mentioned her father the"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "connect with Jeffrey but let's just"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "let's go straight to"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "this was New York magazine I believe."}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:50", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:52", "text": ">> That's correct. Yeah. Margaret Hartman"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "wrote this really great breakdown. I"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "mean if you want like a full 360 of who"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "this lady is and [ __ ] where she was"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "on a Tuesday in 201 [ __ ] 14, you're"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "going to find it here. But a 2022 New"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "York Times article on Palm Beach Society"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "describes Anderson as a third generation"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "Palm Beach resident who models for"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "magazine and works for the Paradise"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "Fund, a charitable organization she"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "founded with other young"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "philanthropists, which is a nice way of"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "saying socialite trust fund babies to"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "protect the environment and at risk"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "citizens. You know, I just feel like the"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "turtles, they're they're all dying and"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:27", "text": ">> yeah, that's how they do. just watch"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "them for so many years come up on the"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "shores in Palm Beach and we just we just"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "have to we have to protect them. That's"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "why"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:37", "text": ">> Oh my god, dude. I can't put a [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "knife in my ear right now."}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:40", "text": ">> Holy [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:44", "text": ">> But it gets better. Anderson was signed"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "by Podel Management in 2005 for a"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "modeling gig in Milan. She appeared on"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "the cover of a handful of lesserk known"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "magazines. Couldn't quite cut it. Like"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "Quest and Society. Never heard of them."}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:55", "text": ">> I like that. I kind of like that. Those"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "are hard names."}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:59", "text": ">> I'd like to submit a piece."}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:02", "text": ">> Never heard of them, though. Her"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "Instagram mostly consists of posed"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "fashion shots with ostensibly funny"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "captions, which are often quotes from"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "famous people. She founded the Paradise"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "Fund, the affforementioned Paradise Fund"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "with her brothers in 2010. I guess they"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "didn't have anything else to do either."}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "According to people, she launched an"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "offshoot called the Project Paradise"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "Film Fund."}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:22", "text": ">> Got to maybe we got to get in that"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "festival, De."}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:24", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:25", "text": ">> Get liquor store in that festival."}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:27", "text": ">> Yeah. Perfect."}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:29", "text": ">> Yeah. But she founded that in 2021. She"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "has been the executive director of the"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "nonprofit."}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "Definitely no money laundering here."}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "Which has been renamed paradise.ng"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "since 2023. No, dude."}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:47", "text": ">> Her profile on the website says she's a"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "licensed rebreather tech diver and is p"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "passionate about protecting Florida"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "wildlife and preserving the national"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "treasures that make Florida such a"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "unique and beautiful place to live. I"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "feel like she doesn't go into West Palm"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "Beach too much though, you know."}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:01", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:02", "text": ">> Yeah. I feel like she's got a very"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "narrow view"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:04", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:06", "text": ">> of what makes Florida such a beautiful"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "place to live. But, you know, maybe I'm"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "just judging. show. And by the way,"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "that's also interesting because they"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "point this out here, but like Don Jr."}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "big hunter doesn't mean he doesn't love"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "wildlife. I mean, he hunters love"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "wildlife, too."}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:22", "text": ">> Yeah, man."}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:24", "text": ">> But like, is he hunting some of what she"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "wants to protect for Instagram?"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:26", "text": ">> Classic,"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:28", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:30", "text": ">> She should go to Miami Dade County and"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "try running this fund there."}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:32", "text": ">> I agree."}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:35", "text": ">> Yeah, she'd crush it there. I feel like"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "she's she's probably like a local there,"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "too."}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:39", "text": ">> I I feel like she would kill it. Here's"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "the site if you want to see it."}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:44", "text": ">> The Water State streaming now on"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "YouTube. How many views does this bad"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "boy have?"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:46", "text": ">> Let's see."}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:49", "text": ">> Don't stick it on the screen just"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "because it'll copyright us."}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:55", "text": ">> All right. 54K views. How many comments?"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:56", "text": ">> That might actually be real. 154"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "comments. Okay."}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:06:59", "text": ">> All right."}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:00", "text": ">> Would you like to comment about your um"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "your connections to Jefferson?"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:05", "text": ">> I think I think we're good because you"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "know what? New York Mag is kind of on it"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "right here. Shout out once again. But"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "the parents of Betatina Anderson, as I"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "mentioned, are Harry Ly Anderson Jr. and"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "Inger Anderson. Betina's father became"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "the youngest bank president in the"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "country. I thought it was just in"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "Florida. It was in the country when he"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "took over Worth Avenue National Bank at"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "26 years old. According to his obituary"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "in the Palm Beach Daily News, RIP Harry,"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "the couple became well known for their"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "philanthropy. He died in 2013 at the age"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "of 70. And you would think, as New York"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "Magazine wonders, just like all of us"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "out there, you would think that there"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "can't possibly be a way, optically"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "speaking, that the son of the president"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "could be dating a woman who's in any way"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "remotely connected to Jeffrey Epstein."}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "But wait, there's more. Optics. Optics."}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "In December 2025, the New York Times"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "magazine published a long article titled"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "Scam Schemes, Ruthless Cons, the untold"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "story of how Jeffrey Epstein got rich."}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:09", "text": ">> You don't want to be in that story. I'm"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "just throwing that one out there. Feel"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "like we could toss a line and say that's"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "not one you want to be in. But towards"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "the end, it says, \"Betina's father was"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "Epstein's banker"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:21", "text": ">> and he once wrote a character reference"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "for the deceased sex offender. to vouch"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "for his character. This is from that"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "original article. To vouch for his"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "character, Epstein had turned to Harry"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "Lloyd Anderson Jr., the president of the"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "Palm Beach National Bank and Trust"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "Company, where Epstein had held accounts"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "since the early 1990s. How many times"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "have we talked about Jeffrey Epstein"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "coming into a lot of [ __ ] money?"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:42", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:43", "text": ">> Getting a lot of moola in that 1992ish"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "area."}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:47", "text": ">> And that's when he's opening up a bank"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "account with Harry here again. Pure"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "spec."}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:51", "text": ">> Just pure"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:54", "text": ">> Harry. God rest his soul, might have"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "been an amazing guy. I mean, it's very"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "very possible that he was. I wouldn't I"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "wouldn't know. I'm just"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:03", "text": ">> just just pure spect."}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:04", "text": ">> Yeah, we're connecting dots here."}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:05", "text": ">> We're just creating."}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:07", "text": ">> But Anderson, whose daughter is now"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "engaged to Donald Trump Jr., wrote a"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "letter stating that Epstein was quote a"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "a gentleman of the highest integrity"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "unquote and that he quote enjoys an"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "excellent reputation in our community"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "unquote. Epstein's house manager later"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "said in a deposition that he was using"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "Anderson's bank to pay some of Epstein's"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "victims. The letter, not previously"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "reported, was submitted to the"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "Development Commission and was obtained"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "by the journalist Wayne Barrett. We"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "found it in his archives at the Brisco"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "Center for American History at the"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "University of Texas, Austin. I wonder if"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "HW was down there. Go dig that one out"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "for us."}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:46", "text": ">> Yeah, he probably dodged that one."}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:46", "text": ">> Feel like that's not his,"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:51", "text": ">> but the letter and and I said this"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "earlier, this is what's really"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "interesting to me. It was written in"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "December 1998, which is well before"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "Jeffrey Epstein was first indicted in"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "Florida for sexually abusing girls in"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "2006 as New York Magazine correctly"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "points out. But I wonder what I mean,"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "people need character references for all"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "kinds of things. Obviously, words also"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "age badly in Harry's defense. Maybe he"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "really did think the guy was a reputable"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "person in the community at that point."}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "It's possible. But I wonder what that"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "was for. like why he had a bank"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "president write a character letter for"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "him at that time."}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:32", "text": ">> Maybe just pure spec."}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:34", "text": ">> Maybe he was about to engage in a new"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "endeavor for some sort of offshore"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "banking and they're like, \"Listen, we're"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "not going to play ball. We need to know"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "who the [ __ ] are you, kid?\" Because he"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "was a kid. Not a kid, but you know, you"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "know what I mean."}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:49", "text": ">> And he's like, \"Well, listen. And I know"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "I got the guy. I got my letter of wreck"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "from my professor. Can I come to your"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "college?"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "There you go."}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:58", "text": ">> And you know what? 1998's right before"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "Joey Def."}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "It's right before those three years of a"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "lot of missing files."}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:07", "text": ">> Yeah. What was it? Over 20,000."}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:09", "text": ">> I don't remember the number, so don't"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "quote me, but it was a lot."}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:11", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:12", "text": ">> And there's a We've talked about that"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "before."}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:15", "text": ">> The U."}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:16", "text": ">> Yep. Episode 388 with John Kuryako. I"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "know we covered that. We've covered that"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "on this show as well, but that was like"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "2 hours 17 or 18 minutes into the 388"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "episode. But yeah, missing a lot of"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "files from some pretty important years"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "where some pretty important [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "happened that kind of changed the world."}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:33", "text": ">> 25,000. I just"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:36", "text": ">> Yeah, DEF was very close. 25,000 right"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "there. So, just missing and we're never"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "going to get it. More on Todd Blanch"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "later. Some Pam Bondi had some things to"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "say about Todd Blanch. Pam."}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:44", "text": ">> I can't believe I'm gonna say this, but"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "W Pam."}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:46", "text": ">> Pam."}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:48", "text": ">> W Pam. It's coming. We're gonna explain."}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:50", "text": ">> Is it Pam or Pam?"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:51", "text": ">> You know, I always felt like it was an"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "MN,"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "you know, like she was saying her name"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "mad like Pam. Pam, you know, God pam it."}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:00", "text": ">> Pam y'all to hell."}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:02", "text": ">> Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "what I'm saying. 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[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "He would ask him things in really guilt"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "inducing ways and he's just like, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "so have you had any strange experiences,"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:12", "text": ">> you know, or or you would say, okay,"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "anything you want to you would say like"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "anything you want to tell me,"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:17", "text": ">> right?\" And just kind of look at him and"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "he's like, \"All right, [ __ ] it.\" So he"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "just tells the story."}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "So they So that's divination, right?"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "Then you have enchantment, right? And"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "that's like casting spells on people and"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "weird stuff like that that you would do"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "in uh ceremonial magic, witchcraft. Um"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "and then there's the"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "just invoking the the help of a an"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "entity, right?"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:44", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:47", "text": ">> So like prayer would be something like"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "that. And according to Dean Raiden,"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "there are empirical effects from prayer"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "that are indistinguishable from spells."}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "apparently he's like they're the same"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "thing."}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:03", "text": ">> How does he explain that?"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:05", "text": ">> I I haven't gone gone into it, but um"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "if you look at and in fact this this"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "gentleman actually just passed, so he"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "was the"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "I've done three interviews of people"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "that did not want to be seen,"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:21", "text": ">> right? Just their voices. So, you know,"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "like it or not, like AI allows you to"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "create like a little character that you"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "can sync their voice to and and whatnot"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "to make it a little bit more"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "entertaining."}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:30", "text": ">> Do you change their voice, too? Make it"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:31", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:33", "text": ">> Oh, you keep it the same."}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:35", "text": ">> I keep the voice the same. I just change"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "the the character instead of"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:38", "text": ">> Yeah. And there's like a program that'll"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "lip sync and all that stuff. And you can"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "create basically whatever you want. Uh,"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "so this this gentleman, his name was"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "Pete Carol. He was the one of the if not"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "the creator of a system of magic called"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "chaos magic"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:56", "text": ">> which uh now I now I'm sounding like"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "absolutely crazy I'll just explain kind"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "of"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:01", "text": ">> I'm just I'm just saying exactly I'm"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "just reporting"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:04", "text": ">> I understand that"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:05", "text": ">> but the way that he explains it the way"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "he explains it though is actually"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "remarkably consistent with how quantum"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "mechanics works right so you're familiar"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "everybody you probably heard this a"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "million times but the double slit"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "experiment Okay,"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:18", "text": ">> you if you don't observe the electron or"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "the subatomic particle going through,"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "you get a probability distribution of"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "every possible way that they could go"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "through that slit, right? But if you"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "observe it, you just get one thing"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "against the screen like that"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "deterministic thing. So all chaos magic"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "basically said is because Peter and by"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "the way he just passed I think on uh"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "April 22nd and I was supposed to"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "interview him on May 4th which is you"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "know super unfortunate but he developed"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "a system and the way that he said the"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "system works is if you think of just"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "simple probabilities right so the"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "probability of any one event is P the"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "probability of that event not occurring"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "is one minus P right"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:02", "text": ">> because the total 100% % you cover"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "everything. Okay,"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "so the way that you know he theorized"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "magic works and again it's just you know"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "a board chemistry student at the time"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "that was coming up with this stuff is"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "that there was kind of like a"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "coefficient before that one minus p."}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "So"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "if you let's say you wanted to become"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "like an NBA star tomorrow and you"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "perform some sort of magical ritual"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "right the probability of becoming a NBA"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "star is extremely extremely small the"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "probability of not becoming an NBA star"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "is extremely large right one minus p"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:43", "text": ">> but you're saying there's a chance"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:46", "text": ">> well that's what that magical factor is"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "but the the the multiple on that thing"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "would have to be um you know enormous to"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "overcome what that probability is of you"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "know so it's very unlikely no matter"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "what you do so it works for"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:04", "text": ">> small things there's also some according"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "to Peter Carol"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:09", "text": ">> there are also certain other things that"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "are related to it like uh it operates on"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "the subconscious so this is this whole"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "sigilization thing right so you"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "typically put what you desire"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "onto some and I think Dr. Heather Lynn"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "talks a lot about this. In fact, she was"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "being interviewed um by one of the hosts"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "on Coast to Coast AM not you know uh"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "Richard Styret I think and but it wasn't"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "for Coast to Coast it was just for his"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "own podcast and she was going into the"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "detail on how you would create a sigil"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "and kind of invoke it and stuff and"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "there and during that she had this like"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "painting of Pizuzu behind her which is"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "basically a"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "Sumerian ancient Sumerian demon."}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:57", "text": ">> And as she was going through this, the"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "the thing crashed and her the thing just"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "cut out. So she got back on and you know"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "it was just weird weird stuff. But the"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "point of this sigilization is if it's in"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "your conscious desire, it's less likely"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "to happen. But if you were able to kind"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "of invoke what that desire is into some"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "sigil that"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "two days later you're not even going to"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "remember what it is. It operates on your"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "subconscious to manifest it. Again, in"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "theory, haven't tried it. Don't know if"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "it works."}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:30", "text": ">> Yeah, I'm going to sit here and try to"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "manifest a [ __ ] 16-inch dick at this"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "rate. Holy [ __ ] I don't know. Like, the"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "whenever you get into this space,"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "there's always going to be a ton of"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "[ __ ] You know what I mean? Like,"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "there's going to be things where it's"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "like some people are just making a"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "living off of writing books, claiming"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "you can do all this stuff that people"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "actually can't do. And then sometimes if"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "it's lighter, you know, think of just"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "people who are like pure manifestation,"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "like if I just say the words it'll"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "happen, which technically isn't true."}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "You know, it can have some sort of"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "placebo effect to where things do"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "happen. Because by the way, there is"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "absolutely true science to something"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "like positive affirmations and things"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "like that, which are a piece of"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "manifestation. But what's always"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "fascinated me about the remote viewing"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "is the fact that the government and the"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "deep bureaucracies and the spy people"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "have used this and at least at one point"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "publicly sworn by it like you said they"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "claim to have ended Project Stargate."}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "That's total [ __ ] Obviously they're"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "still doing something like this. But the"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "fact that decades ago they founded a"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "program on the basis of some people"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "having some weird very cool thing going"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "on in their brain to where they could"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "actually be able to see things to"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "forecast around the world for measures"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "of national security. And then the fact"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "that they used that and also seemed to"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "have and I believe this gotten at least"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "some results from it"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:53", "text": ">> should be mind-numbing to everybody."}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "Like that's crazy to me. Well, when it"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "came out, there was a book that came out"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "uh called Psychic Warrior. It was by"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "David Mhouse. That's how I found out"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "about it. 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And"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "he was running a training exercise in"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "Jordan in this place uh called Botnell"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "Gul, which is kind of this, you know,"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "allegedly according to the Jordanians,"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "it's called, it's like a haunted valley."}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "It's Valley of the Jin, whatever. And as"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "he was staying there with his soldiers"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "at night, like all the Jordanian"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "soldiers would be like randomly"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "screaming and things like that because"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "they believed entities kind of roam the"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "area. Anyway, while he was in that"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "valley, they were running a"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "just a field training exercise, live"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "fire exercise, and he got shot in the"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "head with a machine gun by one of the"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "Jordanians. Well, it, you know, hit the"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "Kevlar and bounced off it and stuff like"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "that, but he had kind of one of those"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "hematomas. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:10", "text": ">> And was basically ejected out of his"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "body and had a number of experiences."}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:12", "text": ">> Now,"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:16", "text": ">> ejected out of his body"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:18", "text": ">> in terms of like his consciousness"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "essence. He said it was he reported it"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "as if it was like a frequency on a radio"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "station dial. It was turned and he was"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "in like another frequency."}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:30", "text": ">> Whoa. and he had, you know, some like"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "older gentleman. It could have been his"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "higher self. It could have been, he"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "didn't know, but basically said,"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "\"You're, you know, you're on the wrong"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "path. You're supposed to be on the path"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "of peace, this and yada yada yada,"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "something like that.\" So,"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "he obviously if if you have an injury"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "like that and you report it or you"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "report that you're, you know, had some"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "out-of- body experience in the Ranger"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "Regiment, you're gone, right? like we at"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "least back then I don't know about now"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "but back then it's just like you got to"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "be deployable 100% of the time or you're"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "you're gone."}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:07", "text": ">> So he kind of held on to it and I think"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "in his next assignment"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "uh at that time in his career like every"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "army officer wants to avoid recruiting"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "duty. It's just like the the absolute"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "worst. So he somehow finagled"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "uh an intelligence posting working in"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "DIA. So one of the scientists at DIA or"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "actually they have these these"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "psychologists I think he was working on"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "some program and this guy was he would"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "ask him things in really guilt inducing"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "ways and he's just like oh so have you"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "had any strange experiences"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:43", "text": ">> you know or or you would say anything"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "you want you would say like anything you"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "want to tell me"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:48", "text": ">> right and just kind of look at him and"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "he's like all right [ __ ] it so he just"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "tells the story and the psychologist"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "says,"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "\"I might have something for you.\" So, he"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "pulls out all these files of all the"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "previous remote viewing exercises that"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "these people in Stargate looked at and"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "basically just kind of gave the file to"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "him and said, \"Hey, why don't you just"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "read these over the next few days and"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "get back to me and tell me if it's"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "something you're interested in.\" So what"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "he was reading was during the Iranian"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "hostage crisis,"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "the remote viewers have the the"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "difficulty with that is there weren't"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "any plans of the US consulate or"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "embassy. I I think it was embassy."}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:34", "text": ">> Yeah, embassy"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:36", "text": ">> in the United States, right? There may"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "have been plans and stuff like that"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "there, right, on site, but it was"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "obviously the Iranians were in control."}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "So they didn't have a map of the place"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "and obviously they wanted this is like"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "the desert one fiasco where they want to"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "get Delta in there to rescue the"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "hostages."}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "So they only had two ways to get"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "information. Ted Cppel and this really"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "like esoteric method means of"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "collection. So with Ted CPP, they would"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "just bring in the cameras and like they"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "would kind of show over his shoulder and"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "this and that, but the remote viewers"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "physically mapped out the floor plan of"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "the embassy, US embassy, so that Delta"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "would have it. And he was just"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:23", "text": ">> Now wait a second. Why would Delta have"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "not why would we not have already had"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "access to that if it was our embassy?"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:30", "text": ">> You know how government is, right?"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:33", "text": ">> Yeah. Not exactly organized. I'm I'm"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "sure they had floor plans on site,"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "right? But they didn't have access to"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "the US government didn't have access to"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "that because the Iranians were"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "controlled or or had controlled the"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:42", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. Then by then they did."}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "That's crazy though that they wouldn't"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "keep like a [ __ ] copy of that in"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "Langley. But they're able to create the"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "floor plan of it so that if there's some"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "sort of drop in, they Delta knows where"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "they're going."}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:55", "text": ">> No, they have something. Yeah. Right."}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:56", "text": ">> Do we know which remote viewers did that"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "by the way?"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:11:59", "text": ">> Um"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:01", "text": ">> I don't know. I would imagine maybe it"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "was um Joe McMongle because he would"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "have been active at that time."}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:05", "text": ">> That's what was coming to mind."}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:09", "text": ">> The rest of them though, I don't I mean"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "like Morehouse was kind of later in that"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "cycle, but he just would have seen"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "previous remote viewers. They also I"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "think remote viewed the locations of"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "some of the people that were taken the"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "hostages from Beirut."}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:23", "text": ">> when was that?"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:23", "text": ">> 83."}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:25", "text": ">> 8283."}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:27", "text": ">> Yeah, 8283 something like that."}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:29", "text": ">> Thank you guys for watching the episode."}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "If you haven't already, please hit that"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "subscribe button and smash that like"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "button on the video. 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[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "for all you know and the other there's"}, {"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "also a debate on whether or not you're"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "pulling it out from the future right"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "from you being in the future. So, as an"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "example,"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:13", "text": ">> all right, I was holding in a question"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "there just so I can fully understand"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "this when it makes sense at the"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "beginning where you're explaining they"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "open up the aperture and they start with"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "however they're doing it. If they're"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "sitting a room, sitting like this or"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "just staring at the wall, I'm not sure,"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "maybe it's different for different"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "remote viewers, but they come up with"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "the thing like the base case of it. And"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "then is someone like asking them more"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "questions about what they see so they"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "can start to whittle it down to I think"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "you described it in stages like stage 1"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "2 3 4 5 six. Yeah. So sometimes so"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "there's monitored viewing where you have"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "a monitor that will kind of probe you"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "and ask questions on certain things that"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "you're reporting"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:54", "text": ">> like a person's doing it."}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:55", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:58", "text": ">> Yeah. Now, ideally, you want that person"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "also to be blind. Otherwise,"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "they're going to be kind of foisting the"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:03", "text": ">> Right."}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:04", "text": ">> And the other thing is, this is what I"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "was trying to get at and I got"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "distracted."}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "They're also trying to because they"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "don't know how it works, right? Some"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "people claim to know how it works, but"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "you know, it in any of this stuff, it's"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "it's difficult to really tell. Um, the"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "reason you don't want the monitor to"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "have it in his head because it might be"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "something they call telegraph a"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "telepathic overlay, right? So, you might"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "be just pulling it out of their head for"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "all you know. The other there's also a"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "debate on whether or not you're pulling"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "it out from the future, right? From you"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "being in the future. So, as an example,"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "let's say you remote view an event and"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "then it happens. Your remote viewing"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "might ne not necessarily be at the"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "actual event. It could be that you're"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "remote viewing your own future and you"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "see the newspaper article"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:53", "text": ">> that you saw. So there's there's a"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "debate on that. So people like Eric"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "Wargo who's focused on time and how it"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "works will tell you that it's"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:02", "text": ">> you're basically just"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:03", "text": ">> looking ahead to your own future and"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "seeing and that's why feedback is"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "important. But there are others who will"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "tell you no you're actually going to"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "that event in space and time and that's"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "why I mean like your your consciousness"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "not you actually that's why people have"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "things like uh effects like billocation."}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "Now, billocation in the grander sai area"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "typically means that you're in two"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "places at once. Like there's saints that"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "have been reported like that. Um like"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "Padre Peio, uh Terresa, I think it's"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "Terresa Vila, stuff like that."}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:39", "text": ">> Sounds familiar."}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:41", "text": ">> In remote viewing, billocation just"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "means that you're um experiencing"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "physiologically the effects of something"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "you're looking at. So, and it can be"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "dangerous. So, if you're looking at like"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "a a fire, a forest fire, you know, some"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "remote viewers will start sweating, like"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "their heart will start palpitating."}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "They'll they'll feel um in intense"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "discomfort because they're getting a"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "little bit too close. Cuz you're not"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "just seeing this stuff in your mind,"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "you're actually feeling it, touching it,"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "you're feeling like in impressions of of"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "where it's supposed to go."}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:14", "text": ">> Is that why Padre Peio was reported to"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "have like the stigmata?"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:15", "text": ">> I don't know."}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:17", "text": ">> Was that from that?"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:17", "text": ">> I don't know if he was. I mean he"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "wouldn't have"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:19", "text": ">> let me check that D if maybe I'm mixing"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "him up with someone."}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:22", "text": ">> Yeah. He wouldn't have been trained in"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "the protocol. That's the other thing"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "that's important to note. Remote viewing"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "is a very narrowly defined aspect of"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "SAI, right? And what you see is people"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "are flooding the zone with, oh, I'm a"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "remote viewer because I, you know,"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "scratch my dog's nutsack and, you know,"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "he he, you know, vomits, you know, like"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "pebbles and I count the pebbles."}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "Think of it as like a form of um when"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "you're talking about sigh and magic for"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "the instance. It's kind of roughly"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "interchangeable."}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:54", "text": ">> There's so"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:55", "text": ">> uh because what you're doing is you're"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "influencing"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:04:02", "text": ">> well I'm like I'm trying to find a way"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "to generalize it. Um aspects of either"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "seeing or controlling reality. Right."}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:10", "text": ">> Okay. So Dean Raiden has a book I think"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "it's called it's magic or something like"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "that but there's kind of three different"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "forms. There's divination right there's"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "enchantment and then there's the so"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "divination is something like remote"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "viewing would be a subset of divination."}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "Now there are people out there who are"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "naturally gifted psychics who claim to"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "be remote viewing. They're not remote"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "viewing, but they are they are"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "demonstrating some aspect of"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "clairvoyance. It's just it's just"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "different. So, you have to be careful"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "about and how do we really like define"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "that then? Because again, when I've"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "talked with different people about"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "remote viewing to my dumbass, some of it"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "feels like it's on a spectrum, if you"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "will. Like, and you were saying at least"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "earlier in my defense that it's done"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "differently by some different people in"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "different ways. So like how do they box"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "it and say all right that's something"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "psychic that's remote viewing if they"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "don't start with a number right or not a"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "number but like a num number like a"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "string of eight number digits characters"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "okay and they don't know what they're t"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "and and and and"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "they know what they're targeting I mean"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "I have to be careful with this too"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "because there are some instances where"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "people know that they're looking for a"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "missing person so I don't want to be too"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "doctrinal, but you can't just say, \"Hey,"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "I I want you to like remote view uh you"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "know, this alien species that I saw at"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "the back of the comet, right? Cuz you're"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "going to you're going to like you're"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "going to that's basically what happened"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "with this Heaven's Gate situation,"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "right? Where someone was set up by"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "someone from the original program.\" Uh"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "anyway, there's"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:55", "text": ">> Yeah, I will come back to the"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "Heavenscape thing."}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:06:00", "text": ">> Yeah. So if they don't start with that,"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "it's probably not remote viewing. And"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "there's kind of two broad categories."}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "There's what you would call CRV, which"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "is coordinate remote viewing or"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "controlled remote viewing. That's where"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "you kind of start with the number and"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "target. And then there's something"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "called and that's where you sit, you"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "know, in the alpha wave brain state and"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "you're just kind of writing decod,"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "detecting, decoding, and you know,"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "observing various targets. Then there's"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "something called extended remote viewing"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "where you probably get a little bit"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "closer down to theta and uh it's more of"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "a free form. You're just kind of not"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "you're kind of laying down. You're very"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "relaxed and you're trying to see certain"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "things."}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:42", "text": ">> Um"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "so that's and then I would also say if"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "they were trained by someone from the"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "original program, it's probably remote"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "viewing. Okay. But if they're like, you"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "know, I'm like"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "a Sicilian mystic, you know,"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:02", "text": ">> from whatever, like they might actually"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "be accurate and they might be, you know,"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "doing some form of divination, right?"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "They could be throwing chicken bones and"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "uh what's what's the like what's the"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "Ching? Something like that."}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:13", "text": ">> I mean, you're outside of my pay grade"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "now."}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:18", "text": ">> So that's like a Chinese form of"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "divination. And like Philip K. Dick."}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "love Philip K. Dick."}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:25", "text": ">> Well, here's a here's a story. So,"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "there's another author that um that I've"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "spoken to in the past who knew Philip K."}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "Dick"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:33", "text": ">> because he's a you know author and the"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "name's escaping me for right now. Um uh"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "Tim Powers. So, he wrote like the"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "Pirates of the Caribbean like that was I"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "think based on one of his"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:43", "text": ">> really"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:44", "text": ">> on Stranger Tides like that specific."}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:47", "text": ">> Wow. So, Tim"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:51", "text": ">> that's a flex. Well, I mean, anyway,"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "they he knew he knew Philip K. Dick. Um,"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "and he said that Philip K. Dick would"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "routinely use the I-ing and he would get"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "answers that he didn't like. So,"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "whenever he got an answer he didn't"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "like, he would he would literally make"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "the I-ing like"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "I think it's like if it's like a board"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "or it's not cards, but it's, you know,"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "some contraption. He would make it sleep"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "outside."}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:15", "text": ">> I mean, he was a he's a crazy crazy guy."}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:17", "text": ">> A little bit."}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:19", "text": ">> Yeah. Uh, and he also attracted like"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "really crazy he was like into really"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "crazy women for some reason."}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:24", "text": ">> They usually are in that kind of"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "situation for sure. You know, they can't"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "live with us here on earth."}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:30", "text": ">> But that is another method of divination"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "that some people swear by, right? Tarot"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "might be something else. I don't know."}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "I, you know, don't have any experience"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:36", "text": ">> like the cards."}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:37", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:38", "text": ">> All that. Yeah. Like trying to tap into"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "the other side."}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:42", "text": ">> Astrology also would be another form of"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "divination. So those are the kind of the"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "categories. I'll tell the coffee shops"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "in New York that [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:50", "text": ">> They know already."}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:50", "text": ">> They know already. 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Vetted units?"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:40", "text": ">> Vetted units. So basically, let's say"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "like"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "there's a great Reuters report actually"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "that lays it out from the CIA vetted"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "unit in Mexico, right? That they they"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "It's great. Read it. 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How these"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "vetted units work"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "is they're basically, you know, vetted"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "by the US, trained, equipped, paid, all"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "that. Actually, this is the one, right?"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "Oh, look, Pernicious Propaganda. By the"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "way, great account. Follow them. Love"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "them. Wait, I haven't seen that one"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "before. But so the these are Remember"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "when I said OSINT? Yeah. He the They are"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "an OSINT account. They are"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:28", "text": ">> this guy? We we talk Well, it's actually"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "three. Oh, it's three"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:31", "text": ">> three uh Do you know them personally?"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:33", "text": ">> No. Uh most of the people in Cartel Land"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "I don't know personally. We all chat"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "regularly, but no. So"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:36", "text": ">> got to do like a cartel meetup or"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "something."}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:41", "text": ">> Well, actually, we've had had him on our"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "podcast. Uh one of the team members, Joe"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "from Pernicious Propaganda, has joined"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "our our uh uh"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "our podcast, our Twitter friend."}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:49", "text": ">> located down there? No. No, no, no. I"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "don't believe so. I don't know, but if"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "you like if you So you Sorry, just"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "quickly like the vetted units, like"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "that's the thing that I was trying to"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "focus on. But when I was going to OSINT,"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "the reason why he's a a blue believer"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "because he does geo- I hate doing"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "geo-locations, but like he does like"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "actual like here's a video so I'm going"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "to geo-locate this and next"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:07", "text": ">> the background."}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:10", "text": ">> and all that. And so then I'm a manager"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "of geo-confirmed cartel map. So"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "Geo-confirmed cartel map."}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:15", "text": ">> Yeah, so geo-confirmed is another great"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "OSINT tool where it's like they have all"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "the geo-locations so Russia, Ukraine,"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "Iran, Israel, Syria, you name it."}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "There's a cartel one and so you can they"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "have all these videos and images where"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "if it's geo-locatable and you geo-locate"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "it with evidence, they have it on a map"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "with the data and everything and so you"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "can kind of track"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:33", "text": ">> Oh, that's cool. So, Dave, this is"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "basically like this is like our"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "monitoring the situation and he's the"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "one creating the situation."}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:40", "text": ">> So, go to cartel scroll So, on the left"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "side you see where it says cartel map?"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "Yeah. Scroll down. I think you went up."}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "There you go. Click on cartel map."}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "And now on Okay, you So, so on the"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "bottom you see the bar. I haven't"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "updated it. Sorry, geo-confirmed. I'm"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "really sorry. I will update it soon. Get"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "grab the the left purple and go all the"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "way to the left."}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "All the way all the way all the way all"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "the way. No. And now zoom out. What the"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "[ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:03", "text": ">> So, this is So, these are all the events"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "and they're color-coded based on the"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "cartels"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "Is this you doing this?"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:10", "text": ">> No, I'm I No, no, no. Pernicious"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "propaganda does 99%. I'm just a"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "Yeah, I'm just a guy who says approved"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "and I I just added it into the system"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "like that. Looks good. Yeah, good guys."}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "Added. So, like absolutely god-like"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "work. Let me show you another one about"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "OSINT on on um"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "if I may I mean I'm going to give you"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "the account."}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:31", "text": ">> you want. Let me let me do this. So, let"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "me give you another one. So, the other"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "account look up h e a r s t."}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "You know what the best part I was That"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "the"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "the BB, the third one."}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "That one."}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "Okay. Wait, is this another one that"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "Another great cartel account."}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:51", "text": ">> to this?"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:53", "text": ">> No, no. She does bios that are insane."}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "Like she Just scroll down. I'm not even"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "like like scroll down like that like"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "that."}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:04:00", "text": ">> Oh, this is bro, this is what I need in"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "my life cuz this is actually the funny"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "part about doing the cartel content"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "because it's always like Spanish words"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "and other stuff. Every time I have in"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "one of you guys after like 2-3 months,"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "I'm like I'm a blank slate again. Wait,"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "which one is which? You know how this"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "whole [ __ ] So she does Spanish and"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "English. She does Spanish She her"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "website She actually has a website. It's"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "on her link like uh go if you want to go"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "back"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "uh go to her it's a Narco Chronicles"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "and click on one of these guys."}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:28", "text": ">> Oh, she's got like the flowchart. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:31", "text": ">> Oh, and she has So one of her I love one"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "of her flowcharts from October. She has"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "all of Sinaloa and all the Chapitos and"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "um"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "Mayo's plaza bosses identified. She"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "actually She got DCMA by an account who"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "was trying to take You know she's"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "influential because [ __ ] accounts in"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "Mexico were trying to DCMA her work and"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "say she didn't have because she she did"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "They were like, \"Oh, she didn't have"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "copyright.\" Copyright for what?"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:55", "text": ">> For her work."}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "To put up a criminal biography"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:58", "text": ">> on Twitter because it would So Twitter"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "Twitter would take her down all the"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "time. So all we Yeah. You put up a"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "biography of a criminal"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:05", "text": ">> images These images You see the black"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "and that? You see that that's And that's"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "her [ __ ] for If anybody sees that"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "that's her format. She deserves the"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "credit and people steal it like"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "[ __ ] That's crazy."}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:19", "text": ">> So she's another great account. So"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "Pernicious Propaganda, GeoConfirmed"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "Cartel Are we following these accounts,"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "Steve? I want to make sure we we have"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "them."}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:28", "text": ">> And then um so and general Borderland"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "Beat is a phenomenal news organization."}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "I know a lot of the reporters."}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "Uh not just Borderland Beat, sorry. Just"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "not general, sorry. Borderland Beat."}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "I I hope they they uh Borderland Beat"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "uh So they they uh yeah. The these the"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "these guys are like"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "really great reporters. I talked to a"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "lot of them. So like Waso, Sol,"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "Prendido, Excel,"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "Ivan, so"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "AIC03, that's another one that's a"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "phenomenal one."}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "Uh another one that's"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "Oh my god. I'm like Hold on, give me a"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "second. Cruz. Cruz is another great one."}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "He has a great Telegram channel as well"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "with a lot of sources and information."}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "Cruz is really good."}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:11", "text": ">> huge because this is actually a huge"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "problem with this space because it's so"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "dangerous down there and because"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "obviously"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:17", "text": ">> Look this one up. And now I'm going to"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "show you why. So pull it up and I'll I'm"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "going to put You got to click on this"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "map. Right. But because like they're so"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "wild wild west to the wild wild west nth"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "degree down there, finding people who"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "actually know what the [ __ ] is going on"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "is so difficult. So this is great."}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:38", "text": ">> Okay, so click on the Google Map link."}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "Now scroll Yeah."}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "So now do me a favor. Go on the left and"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "just"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "click the the crimes to the third one."}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "Like unclick that."}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "And now zoom in."}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "So this is the most accurate cartel"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "territorial control map you will ever"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "find."}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "What makes it so accurate?"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:06:59", "text": ">> Because this guy So you remember what"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "the geoconfirmed I showed you? And then"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "he talks to other accounts and people"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "and then based on all that, he literally"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "goes into Google Map and updates this"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "regularly saying who Where's the"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "territories that they control? So the"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "colors are all different cartel"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "territorial controls."}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "So for example, that's the red is CJNG."}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "That right there is CJNG. And then the"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "lines denote like all the alliances and"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "conflicts that they have. Woah. So you"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "can like So you can So for example, go"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "to where we're talking about Rene. So"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "funny So you know how I found So I found"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "him, I kid you not, on Reddit. He's"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "like, \"Hey,"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "I'm making this. What do you guys"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "think?\""}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "Dude, I was just like,"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "\"What in the Dude, you're amazing. I"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "need you on X like now. Please. Please"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "come to X. I am begging you and I will"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "retweet the [ __ ] out of you and endorse"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "you. Because"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "Do you know how hard this is?"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "Like he goes in with based on pernicious"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "propaganda geoconfirmed. The other one"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "who does a lot of great work is Halipon."}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "Uh Halipon is another great"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:01", "text": ">> J A L?"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:03", "text": ">> No, H A L I P and I think it's a zero N,"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "Halipon. He also does a lot of"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "geoconfirmed and geolocation as well. Um"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "but then they go there and then they"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "update all this and then if you click"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "you can click on any of these and"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "they'll show you like the different"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "factions within on the region. Like and"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "they So like see all there in the left."}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:23", "text": ">> What a mess Guadalajara is. Oh my god."}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:25", "text": ">> So like like So when I first created um"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "my account, if you were to ask me what"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "my end goal was was that like a lot of"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "these things are seeing now. I wanted a"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "geoconfirmed cartel map. Somebody who"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "had a live map like this. You know, uh"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "Hersh just been kicking ass way before I"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "existed and she just an amazing like and"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "it's like and it's now it's like okay,"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "we got to get them"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "the"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "what they deserve. Like the credit they"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "deserve. Because I know for a fact that"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "Scotty Pony, another great cartel"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "account. Cruces another one. Ivan A I"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "say like there's so many that like that"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "they do so much great work. And these"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "are just a lot of them are more kind of"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "like in some you know, a lot of them are"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "bilingual obviously English and Spanish"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "but some a lot of these are more kind of"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "the English things. But like that's the"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "what he does, right? Like pernicious"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "propaganda was talking about the"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "geoconfirmed location. Look, he's got"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "the funeral of guys who were in the"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "[ __ ] O Mencho raid."}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "So like that so that so"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "So that's kind of the network, right?"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "It's like okay, let's find the videos."}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "Let's post them. Then people then then"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "they'll go okay, let's geoconfirm it and"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "then my brother can update his map. You"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "know, Hersh can be like okay, who's who"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "in the zoo and who's the new leaders and"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "who's and then they get that's just And"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "again, we don't get paid to do this."}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "Right. None of them do. I wish they"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "would. But you know what? Hey Elon,"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "let's pay the guys that freaking say"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "trans people are going to do mass"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "shootings 24/7 or like a [ __ ] Oh,"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "let me have my camera and do this for a"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "second and say I'm a reporter because of"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "that. And you're going to tell me the"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "knowledge that you get from this?"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "And they get no credit. And people steal"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "their [ __ ] all the time."}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "And even sometimes news organizations."}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "And some of them have standards and"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "integrity. Others don't. They just"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "straight up"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:02", "text": ">> organization without standards and"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "integrity?"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:05", "text": ">> of them do. That's not I'm offended at"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "that."}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:08", "text": ">> Come on. And and look, there's other"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "accounts for example, I do a lot of the"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "the the there's actually have what a lot"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "of the"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "military aircraft observers like the"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "true ones I've been doing it for"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "decades. Uh there's a lot of great"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "military aircraft observers and they're"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "key cuz they track Mexican flights, US"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "flights, South America because and"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "what's good about them is they know what"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "normal is and what isn't because I can"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "grab one image of a on flight radar,"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "show it to you and you'll be like, \"Oh"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "my god, we're going to bomb Iran"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "tomorrow. Bomb Mexico tomorrow because"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "of this one thing.\" And it's like, \"No,"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "that actually that one thing has"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "happened 200 times already. Like that's"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "normal.\" Like and that's why and that's"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "where I think the OSINT now I think"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "people can understand my passion for"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "OSINT."}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "Because it's that. It's insane."}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "It's an insane amount of work and"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "dedication"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "that people take time out of their days"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "to do for no"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "monetary benefit whatsoever"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "rather than just inform the people."}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "Because then based on that, I can tell"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "you like Renesito Tedo in Southern"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "Sinaloa,"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "right that that he stopped. Now Chapitos"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "have problems in the in the north and so"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "now he has to rely more on those Guanos,"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "which is the brother of El Chapo El"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "Guano, who's fighting Chapo Isidro, one"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "of the faction called El Musico under"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "Chapo Isidro. Thank you guys for"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "watching the episode. If you haven't"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "already, please hit that subscribe"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "button and smash that like button on the"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "video. They're both a huge huge help."}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "And if you would like to follow me on"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "Instagram and X, those links are in my"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "description below."}]

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I'm like, \"Holy crap,"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "it's in the book.\""}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "I actually when I went to do the"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "Discovery Channel thing, they had me cut"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "together like a fake reel where they're"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "like, \"Hey, can we just give you a quick"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "script and you film it and you act like"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "you're on camera?\" and Def and I were"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "like, \"Okay, fine.\" So, we just filming"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "with Kurt Mezer. We had just finished"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "filming with him. And so, I took the"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "laptop right here and I let it it was"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "like four lines. So, I read it line by"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "line. And then afterwards, I was like,"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "\"Well, [ __ ] I got to put a guest in"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "there.\" So, I went and found footage of"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "Kurt like ripping White Claws and"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "playing with the"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:50", "text": ">> It ended up in the"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:52", "text": ">> Not only did it end I'm like I finished"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "editing it real quick and I'm like,"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "\"This is hilarious. They're never going"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "to accept this.\" I sent it to the EP"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "ating Discovery and he's like,"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "\"Awesome.\" I'm like, \"Oh my god.\" And"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "then the director like insisted on"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "leaving it in. So he's like a co-star of"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "that show with the White Claws."}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:09", "text": ">> You got to love it."}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:10", "text": ">> He needs to get like an endorsement."}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "Contractor something."}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:11", "text": ">> Yeah. Pull that mic in a little bit by"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "the way. But"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:13", "text": ">> All right. That better."}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:13", "text": ">> Yeah, it's better."}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:14", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:16", "text": ">> He needs an endorsement from White Claw."}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:17", "text": ">> He absolutely does. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:19", "text": ">> He's just he's like pedaling it and he's"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "not getting any any love for it and"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "needs Well, he's getting love for it,"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "but he's not getting any money for it."}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:24", "text": ">> He's not getting money for it. You know,"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "we're in New Jersey right now. You got"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "to have the mul."}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:27", "text": ">> You got to have the mulan, baby. That's"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "right."}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:33", "text": ">> But how did how did he even find you?"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:34", "text": ">> This is bizarre. So again, I have a"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "relatively small channel. It's through"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "called Through a Glass Darkly."}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:40", "text": ">> Link down below."}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:42", "text": ">> Yep. And uh there's a episode I talk to"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "a lot of remote viewers like actual not"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "like you know like my my dog scratching"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "his left nut sack and you know I I see"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "visions of ghosts. No, it's like it's"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "actually the people who were trained in"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "the military protocol that went all the"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "way back to Ingo Swan back in Yeah."}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "Stargate program. Well, Grill Flames,"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "Centerlane, it went by various names."}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "But I talked to a lot of those guys like"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "David Mohouse, uh, Paul Smith, Lynn"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "Buchanan, and I was interviewing Lynn"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "Buchanan, and he, you know, had a story"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "about an abduction that he had, and it"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "came back as kind of a strange memory."}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "He was kind of going out, getting in his"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "car, and his, you know, he'd always be"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "paranoid about forgetting something, and"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "he always like, it was just, it was"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "absurd. And uh he kind of sits in his"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "car and his wife's like, you know, she"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "she's used to it and she's like, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "you forget something again.\" The car"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "keys and suddenly he had this memory"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "that kind of came back, this hidden"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "memory of this abduction experience."}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "Anyway, I'll I can talk about that"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "later, but"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:47", "text": ">> you can talk about it now. We got all"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "day, man."}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:51", "text": ">> Yeah. So, this is actually wasn't"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "recounted for the first time on my"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "podcast. It's actually in a book called"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "Alien Agenda by Jim Mars, and it's"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "actually recounted in there. And I"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "didn't even know that. I had the book on"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "my shelf from like decades earlier and I"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "found it in there. I'm like, \"Holy crap,"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "it's in the book.\" Hey guys, three quick"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "things. Number one, if you haven't"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "subscribed, please subscribe. It's a"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "huge, huge help. Number two, if you'd"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "like to join my Patreon for early"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "uncensored releases of the full"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "episodes, you can join via the link in"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "my description or in the pin comment"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "below. And number three, if you'd like"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "to join my clipping community for a"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "chance to make content from the show and"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "make money, you can join via the Discord"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "link in my description below. But"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "anyway, Lynn tells this story where he"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "wakes up on, you know, he's seated with"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "all these people and everybody around"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "him is kind of in a days and there's"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "like this tall, you know, for lack of a"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "better word, tall white, but this like"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "really like stacked built,"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "call it, for lack of a better word,"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "non-human intelligence, right? Like"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:53", "text": ">> big black eyes, white skin, etc. and"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "he's still kind of semi in a daysaze and"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "he kind of looks over at this being and"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "says something to the effect of, you"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "know, he thinks he's on like an airliner"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "and he's just like, \"Hey, can I get a"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "window seat?\" And this thing looks at"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "him like a lion was just let loose. Kind"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "of runs out of the room, comes back and"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "there's this uh, you know, small gray,"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "right? That tries to basically say"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "everything's all right and hypnotize"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "him. and he finally realizes he's in"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "this like weird weird situation where"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "it's kind of an abduction."}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "So, the being kind of shows him how to"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "fly the craft. It has one of these um"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "hand devices that you've seen in um like"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "is purported to have been in the Roswell"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "crash. So, either the Roswell crash or"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "like something that Bob Lazar has"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "described"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:49", "text": ">> and shows him how to basically fly this"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "thing. So they eventually land on some"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "place where there's black grass. It's"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "like a twilight area. And this gray is"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "just like, \"Why don't you stay with me,"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "you know, and would you like to, you"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "know, consider being a pilot?\" And the"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "guy's like, Lyn Buchanan is like, \"Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "it'd be fantastic.\" He's like, \"Well,"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "you'll never be able to return to your"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "family.\" Meanwhile, this is just again,"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "this is one of the stories that's so"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "weird that all the rest of the people,"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "they funnel into this building on this"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "hill, and he hears like he he'd hear"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "like a blood curdling scream"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "and then a chorus of laughter and then"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "there would be another blood curdling"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "scream and then another chorus of"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "laughter. And he asked the gray like,"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "\"What the hell's going on over there?\""}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "He's just like, \"Don't worry about it."}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "It's not anyway.\""}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:38", "text": ">> And they're talking. It's not telepath."}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "No, it's telep I think it's telepathic."}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:42", "text": ">> Definitely telepathic."}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:45", "text": ">> So,"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "this is a story in a particular podcast"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "and that's how Kurt found me. He's just"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "like he couldn't"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:53", "text": ">> Yeah, it checks out."}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:55", "text": ">> But here's the thing, like Lynn Buchanan"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "didn't believe it cuz he had kind of"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "faint memories of it. So then he had his"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "team at Fort me remote view it. Now for"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "people who don't know anything about"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "remote viewing the protocol is you get"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "eight eight characters right so like 1 2"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "3 4 5 6 7 8 it used to be geospatial"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "coordinates but that would ruin the"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "experience because when you're dealing"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "with military officers and personnel"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "right they'll start to see 8digit"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "coordinates and they'll be able to"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "figure out roughly where in the world"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "they would be looking at right Okay."}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:35", "text": ">> So, it would screw. So, the way that"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "this has to work or ideally it works is"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "through a double blind protocol. Okay."}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "And the way it works is you're given"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "kind of just eight random characters and"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "it corresponds to a target. Okay? And"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "the target could be is just some place"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "in space and time. Could be the past,"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "could be the future, could be anything."}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "Typically it's an intelligence or you"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "know it was designed as an intelligence"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "collection method right and so it was"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "scientifically verified it was produced"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "in Stanford research institute"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "um designed by uh they were kind of"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "working with this guy Ingo Swan who was"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "a gifted natural psychic but anyway just"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "I'll get back to that but the way this"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "works is that's all you get you just at"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "eight characters and it's like for"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "people who are software engineers, it's"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "like a pointer. It's like a pointer in"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "memory someplace, but it's just to a"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "place in space and time. The reason they"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "do that is you don't want to pollute the"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "data that you would get from the target."}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "So, and it's something they call"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "frontloading. Um also, uh and that's if"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "if I and there are examples of front"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "loing where remote viewing has gone"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "horribly arai, right? That's the whole"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "heaven's gate situation, but we can talk"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "about that one later, too."}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:03", "text": ">> So, you don't want to have front"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "loading. You just want to open that"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "aperture perception and see what comes"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "in. You don't want to be polluted,"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "right? Otherwise, if I tell you, hey,"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "I'm looking for a missile base in"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "Russia, you know, near semi palentine"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "pelatinsk or whatever, you're just"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "you're going to start seeing missiles."}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "you're going to start making up [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:24", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:27", "text": ">> Right. So,"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:28", "text": ">> so it needs to be like tabulas in a way"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "like"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:33", "text": ">> double blind double blind protocol."}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "Sometimes it can be single blind but"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "even then"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "there are some people who claim to know"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "how this works but the CIA DIA were"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "never able to figure out how it works"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "and that was part of the reason they"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "quote unquote canceled the program. The"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "program's still definitely going on, but"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "uh I think Dean Raiden, who was"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "associated with that, Dr. Dean Raiden,"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "if you haven't talked to him, you"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "definitely need to talk to him."}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:59", "text": ">> I know that name."}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:08:59", "text": ">> Danny Jones, Danny Jones, definitely"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "talked to him."}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:06", "text": ">> Yeah. but he's used to work at Bell Labs"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "and he was also affiliated with the"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "program way back when and he's done an"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "immense amount of um research on SAI"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "magic like Ma G"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "all that stuff and has demonstrated that"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "SI works to you know odds against chance"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "in some cases in the like se I I mean"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "numbers that like we"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "over like quadrillion let's say right"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "like well over one in quadrillion odds"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "against chance of this thing of certain"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "things happening just randomly but um in"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "terms of"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "this intelligence technique it it's just"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "in order to kind of focus the mind and"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "you slowly open that aperture of"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "perception so you typically start with"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "just classifying um is it a man-made"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "object is it, you know, is it land, is"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "it water, is it a life form, etc. And"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "you slowly, methodically open that"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "aperture of perception through depending"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "on the technique you use, because"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "there's various techniques once they"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "broke from Stargate, a lot of these"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "viewers kind of put their own little"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "stamp on it."}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:18", "text": ">> Okay?"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:20", "text": ">> But you gradually open that aperture"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "perception so that by the time you're in"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "stage six, right? Back in the day, they"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "would build like full scale clay models"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "and and things like that. I haven't seen"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "anybody doing that today, but um it's"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "it's a real capability."}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:37", "text": ">> Thank you guys for watching the episode."}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "If you haven't already, please hit that"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "subscribe button and smash that like"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "button on the video. They're both a huge"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "huge help. And if you would like to"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "follow me on Instagram and X, those"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "links are in my description below."}]

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But they were also I mean but"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "there is a kind of a fundamental shift"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "in this aspect this conversation was"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "this idea of this that they were viewed"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "as untouchable."}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "If you would have told me for example El"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "Panu so let me backtrack. This all had"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "there was a string of very interesting"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "assassinations that happened in 2025,"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "early 2026 with this one kind of being"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "the one. But in December 2025, there was"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "two assassinations that really picked my"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "interest that were specifically against"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "those chapitos, the rivals of Mitos. It"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "was El Panu, who was the head of"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "security."}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "It was El Pano, head of security, and"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "then um a guy named the alchemist. The"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "alchemist."}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:52", "text": ">> The alchemist."}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:54", "text": ">> Yes. So he was a uh he was killed in"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "Kulyakan. He was suspected to be"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "involved in a lot of the drug labs like"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "manufacturing and all that. There was"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "two assassinations but the big one was"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "El Panu. El Panu was the head of"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "security. He took over after El Peris."}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "El Peris was a head of security because"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "he took after after El Nini. So Peris"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "was killed by Mexican special forces. El"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "Nini was captured by Mexican special"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "forces. Right. So like the head of"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "security of Lositos continues to go"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "down. Like killed I mean captured"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "killed. And then Bananu, he was in"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "Mexico City and they're just randomly"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "assassinated in Mexico City. Like"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:26", "text": ">> how do they still have power? They've"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "been in this whole like civil war. Their"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "leaders been gone now for a while. The"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "sons have had all the problems and have"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "been extradited to the US and now like"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "you have the Mexican government"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "continually taking out their head of"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "security. Like how are they still"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "functioning?"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:40", "text": ">> You know, it's funny. I literally"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "yesterday was on with Karina on her"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "dispatch on Ironclad. We literally had"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "the whole episode was talking talking"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "about this. Well, let's do it."}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:55", "text": ">> Um, I would say"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "I think I think don't it's very"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "interesting to your point like how right"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "let's say again like we did with Iran."}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "Let's go back in time when I started my"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "account. Let's say it's 2023"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:07", "text": ">> allegedly."}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:09", "text": ">> Yeah, you can look at my social Twitter."}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:12", "text": ">> You were like Kevin Durant. You had them"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "burners boy. You were sitting back there"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "in the intel like, \"Yes, sir."}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:17", "text": ">> Yo, you ain't going to believe this"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "[ __ ] Twitter.\""}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:25", "text": ">> So, let's say it's it's 2023 and you"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "would have told me that in 2026,"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "Mayo Zambada would have been captured"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "by the US and is in US federal custody."}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "El Menel was killed. El Cardino was"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "captured."}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:42", "text": ">> I miss him. He was awesome. And the only"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "one remaining out of those guys is Ivan"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "[ __ ] Archivaldo. I'm like, you're out"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "of your goddamn mind. If anything, Ivan"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "Archiv, I would have if Poly Market was"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "a thing, I would have bet if Archaldo"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "was gone."}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:55", "text": ">> Putting aside Eleno or not Eleno Mayo"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "for a second cuz there's a reason I want"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "to put aside specifically."}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:01", "text": ">> Why were the other ones so so"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "surprising? I agree. They're definitely"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "surprising in any scenario in 2023, but"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "like they do have huge targets on their"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "back now,"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:09", "text": ">> right? But they were also I mean but"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "there is a kind of a fundamental shift"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "in this aspect of this conversation was"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "this idea of this that they were viewed"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "as untouchable."}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "Maybe not a card maybe not a card but at"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:23", "text": ">> I mean we saw why"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:25", "text": ">> I have my own theories about that by the"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "way about the element. Yeah I don't I"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "think there's a there was a little"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "[ __ ] in that in a good way in a"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "different way."}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:31", "text": ">> In a good way."}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:33", "text": ">> In a I I think that"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:35", "text": ">> Oh this is fun. I let me let me get to"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "the Ivon proud and I I promise I'll jump"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "into that."}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:39", "text": ">> I just want to know what they did to my"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "man ill hard and narrow."}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:42", "text": ">> Well, they captured which was very"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "interesting about there was no narcole"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "blockades."}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:45", "text": ">> What do you mean?"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:47", "text": ">> Okay, so generally when they capture"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "cartel leader, what do you see? Like in"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "a mentor, right? What happened? Mexico"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "goes to [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:51", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:53", "text": ">> But not not necessarily a retaliation,"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "but like they try to stop it. So how do"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "they stop it? They like do the narco"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "blockades. They burn businesses. They"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "shoot places up, right? Like they did"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "that with the kulanessos"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "Guzman twice you see every time oh"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "there's narco because they get somebody"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "the fact that got captured and there was"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "like there was no narco blockades no"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "burning of vehicles nothing it was just"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "like Omar Karuch came out yeah we got a"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "cardto"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:17", "text": ">> sounds a little weird"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:18", "text": ">> what the [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:20", "text": ">> yeah what's happening there"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:21", "text": ">> like they must have and and and from the"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "report like no his security tried to"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "like get him out but like nothing like"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "what he wasn't able to commun did they"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "find a way to cut him off communication"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "wise and he wasn't able to communicate"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "with anybody to do that. And so by the"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "time they announce it, it's too late."}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "Right? Because again, outside of"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "Elmenel, this is an important data point"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "when we're talking about narco"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "blockades."}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:40", "text": ">> Outside of elemential, people think, oh,"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "they do this for retaliation. And it's"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "not necessarily true. The reason why"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "they do narco blockades is not to"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "retaliate."}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "Except it's to stop the person from"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "being captured or if he manages to get"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "captured, force the Mexican government"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "to release him because of the violence."}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "M"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:05:00", "text": ">> but if that target then gets captured"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "and then gets sent over to Mexico City"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "at that point it makes no sense to"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "continue the narco blackades because now"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "what they're going to try to do is go"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "through the courts to either get his"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "case thrown out or at least stop any"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "extradition to"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:11", "text": ">> by a judge"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:13", "text": ">> or yeah"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:14", "text": ">> and we've seen that happen we've seen"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "that happen all the time"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:17", "text": ">> the judge heads off too"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:20", "text": ">> and so that that is that is when they do"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "it right so the fact that there was no"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "narco plucket is very very very very"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "interesting but I don't know if it's one"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "of those situation maybe we're reading"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "too much into it and there's just"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "information like maybe they cut off his"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "communications or it was really he was"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "caught by surprise. There might be other"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "detail but that that was like Omar Karfu"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "just announced it. Whoa. Now he could"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "have just announced it to also say oh"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "see cartel members too late you can't do"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "anything. We already got him so don't do"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "the narco blood because it makes no"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "sense right."}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:48", "text": ">> But again uh but going back to Ivano"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "I mean it's to your point like who's who"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "does he have left?"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "Let's look at the factions right? For"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "example, loss, one of the key factions"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "of those chapito."}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:05:59", "text": ">> Can we pull up a von? But yeah, go"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "ahead."}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:04", "text": ">> So like for example, you look there"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "there's a term for all the chapitos who"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "switch side to the mayos. They're called"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "those voltados."}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:09", "text": ">> Losados."}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:13", "text": ">> Voltados."}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "Yeah. The volt like the no like like the"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "guys who the betrayers in a way. The"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "guys who switch sides, who switch teams,"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "rats,"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:21", "text": ">> right? So that's how those chapitos call"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "them. They say we're fighting against"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "Chapo Cedro, which is not not to be"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "confused with Chapo. Chapo Cedro is the"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "Mesa Flores organization, the Guazava"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "Cartel, former BLO. We're fighting"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "against those Mayositol now."}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:34", "text": ">> Wait, BLO?"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:36", "text": ">> Uh, yeah. So, the Betran Levine"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "organization. He used to be part of the"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "Sinoa cartel and then they split off."}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "Huge violence. I was like, you know, and"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "then so he was kind of one of the last,"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "not not last, but he's like one of the"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "more powerful ones uh uh of former BLO"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "and people"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:53", "text": ">> Archer Baldo,"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:56", "text": ">> sorry,"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:57", "text": ">> the um like if you look at how the state"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "the Treasury Department, the Justice"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "Department, the State Department, they"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "call like guys who are BLOS's, they say,"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "\"Oh, Sinaloa cartel.\" It's like, \"No,"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "that's not true. They're not.\""}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:06", "text": ">> But you know, they don't it's the"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "Justice Department. They don't give a"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "[ __ ] Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:09", "text": ">> they're going to be like, well, he was"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "once always like"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:12", "text": ">> they're all Mexican."}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:14", "text": ">> But yeah, that's right."}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:14", "text": ">> Oh, he looks like a [ __ ] Bond"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "villain."}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:17", "text": ">> So, what's very interesting about Ivan,"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "though, I think people underestimated"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "him a lot, right? And and and but I"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "would say so Chapitos, right? There's"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "four remaining,"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "right? There was four originally. I'm"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "sorry. There was four originally. So,"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "Ivanar Fred are the two that are out."}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "And then you have Oido Guzman and"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "Guzman. Then those are the sons and"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:36", "text": ">> those are the the other those are the"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "sons that are in the US and Ivan and"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "Jassus are the ones that are here. Okay."}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "Ivan is the undisputed leader of those"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "chapitos and and the thing is and I told"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "this in Karina show like he has absolute"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "loyalty with his members like like if"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "you look at Chapito propaganda and"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "social media pages and messaging pages"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "they love this man to death."}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:58", "text": ">> Why?"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "I think he became the heir of El Chapo"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "and El Chapo had this gravitas right"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "this this image that interestingly"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "enough Ivan was able to capture that"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:07", "text": ">> very powerful"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:10", "text": ">> that aura"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:10", "text": ">> right exactly you know who doesn't have"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "it though"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:13", "text": ">> Jesus Alfredo"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:15", "text": ">> if you you want to I don't know if you"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "can look up Jesus Alfredo so it's Jesus"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "Alfredo the same Guzman Salarasad Jesus"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "Alfredo is like the least charismatic"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "human being I've ever uh no it's so it's"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "not it's the it's yeah the the one with"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "The white that that's like his late is"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "more accurate. That's it. That's that's"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "like"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:33", "text": ">> this guy don't have rez."}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:35", "text": ">> No, no, no, man. Like"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:36", "text": ">> how do you become a [ __ ] drug lord if"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "you don't have"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:39", "text": ">> I find it more likely that this man is"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "going to defect to the US and ever take"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "over Los Chaptos"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:44", "text": ">> is going to defect to the US in what was"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "the second part of that?"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:46", "text": ">> Then take over."}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:47", "text": ">> Okay. I thought you said something."}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:49", "text": ">> Which is very interesting because now"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "there's a lot of reporting that Ivan is"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "in negotiations with the US to turn"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "himself in."}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "Oh, that's interesting. That's very"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "interesting"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:56", "text": ">> cuz they already got a lot of the chat"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "post and"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:00", "text": ">> that's that's look at the factions like"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "the only key f like if you look like"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "okay they have I'm just going to throw"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "names so don't like Los Cascos okay sure"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "they're very small kind of like all"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "right but not the biggest one they have"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "maybe left is a group a guy named"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "Renethero Rene 00 dude that guy"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:19", "text": ">> a hard name"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "Rene re"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "ne"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:27", "text": ">> that guy great name So that dude is like"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "I don't know how many times he switched"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "sides. He's like the least reliable"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "person you can imagine you know like the"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "whole mafia honor like that guy doesn't"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "believe he's Michael Cohen."}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:40", "text": ">> He doesn't I perfect perfect that is"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "that is the example I was looking for."}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:44", "text": ">> They the amount of videos that the"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "Chapito social media pages released on"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "fighters belonging to Reneo fighting in"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "Mexico in Siloa. They think okay so"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "that's all you guys have left them and"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "those cascos but the cascos are very"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "interesting and then the under the"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "cascos I think they're called"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "forthasentino"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "so the 81st special forces I think"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "that's their full name um what is this"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "oh okay no put like the actual number"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "not like zero like the 00 number"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:12", "text": ">> got it so 00 yeah and let's see"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:14", "text": ">> you want it on Twitter"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:15", "text": ">> yeah so for example that"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:16", "text": ">> what's the chicken"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:17", "text": ">> okay so that"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:20", "text": ">> is that loss puos locos"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:21", "text": ">> no that's that's Elo the CG&G symbol."}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:24", "text": ">> Oh [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:25", "text": ">> So okay. So the pizza loito pizza. So"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "they're pizza."}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:28", "text": ">> Uhhuh."}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:30", "text": ">> And then they had that. So that that is"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "an image. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:33", "text": ">> Can we show that? Is that going to go?"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:34", "text": ">> Yeah. I don't think so. I mean I mean"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "it's a car on fire."}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:37", "text": ">> A little bit of fire."}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:41", "text": ">> Come on."}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:43", "text": ">> They got fire in Pakistan. So, so that"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "that image is an AI generated image that"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "shortly when there was rumors before the"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "CG&G Chapito Alliance was officially"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "announced, you started to see some narco"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "message in some social media channels"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "reporting that there was an alliance."}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "That was the one that they that you know"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "AI generator they probably went to chat"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "like give me a rooster with a [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "pizza and then that's what they called"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "it for especi Fu and that's the image"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "that they use. So within that it's"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "Chapito CGNG and in those Chapitos"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "really right now it's like the main one"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "are Renee which is these guys like these"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "are the guys right like that's them"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "shooting it up right"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:19", "text": ">> nice"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:20", "text": ">> and but it's like I mean I I would have"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "to look at the exact comment but I'm"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "pretty certain that's like the one but"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "it's like really that's your guy the guy"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "who switched side 50 million times"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "that's who you're reliance on and that's"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "and what's actually very interesting"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "last week there were rumors and some"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "I've talked to some other cartel"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "observers accounts really reliable that"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "are like adamant like no no no Rene"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "entered into a ceasefire with those"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "mayos and because he was he was fighting"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "a lot in southern Sinaloa and that he"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "entered into a ceasefire withos what's"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "interesting of that if that's the case"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "that's the mayos didn't enter into a"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "ceasefire with all of Chapitos or all of"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "Sinaloa just with him so although Rene"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "is still Chapito he's not going to go"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "above if this ceasefire is true he's"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "kind of been like all right Ivonne"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "you're you're going to have to fight"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "them on the north on your own I'm done"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "fighting right and so again it goes back"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "to what is who does Ivan have left and"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "that's a problem and I think that's why"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "the reporting that he's considering"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "turning himself in is gaining traction."}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "I think the Los Angeles Times also"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "reported on that which is very"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "interesting which again wouldn't be"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "surprising. I can tell you right now"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "Ivonne has been almost captured so many"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "times. He's like his father he's really"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "good at escaping very very effective but"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "going back to your question about why he"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "was an easy he was like a low of all the"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "leaders he was like the lowhanging fruit"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "compared to in manuin compared to in"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "Mayo. Now, in Mayo, you're right, was a"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "unilateral US operation. So, you can't"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:40", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:41", "text": ">> but"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "it was done by the Mexicans. Let me get"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "this clear."}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:49", "text": ">> But there was a very interesting report"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "from ReformA that indicated that Kesham"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "was not informed about the operation to"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "get El Mencho until it was well"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "underway."}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "Kept her in the dark."}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:58", "text": ">> And I will leave it."}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:00", "text": ">> Thank you guys for watching the episode."}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "If you haven't already, please hit that"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "subscribe button and smash that like"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "button on the video. 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Like it wasn't just"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "a one and done. It was a dedicated"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "campaign of absolute degradation of"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "Iranian military capabilities, the Navy,"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "the Air Force, the ballistic missile"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "force, the production capabilities, and"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "their nuclear facilities and even some"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "of the leadership in ground forces and"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "besieged like the Israelis did a lot"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "more of that, right? They led a lot more"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "of that aspect. Now you're getting the"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "reports. Are they reconstitut? Take a"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "step back. Be very cautious when you"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "read when you read articles that said"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "leaked intelligence says this. And"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "here's the reason why. But it's not"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "because they're lying. I don't I don't"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "want to I don't want to I don't like"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "throwing fake news. I don't like I think"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "that's that's disingenuous and not fair"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "for reporters who are just trying to do"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "their job in the situation they're at."}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "What I would tell people is multiple"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "things. One, did they have access to the"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "full intelligence report or did people"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "tell them? And then when people tell"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "them the question is okay the"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "intelligence report can say this but"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "there's other things that are very"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "important for example what's the"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "mythology what's the scope of the"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "intelligence report so what were they"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "what were they're trying to analyze"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "the methods they tried to achieve that"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "the sources they used and more important"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "the confidence level was it a low"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "meaning or high confidence level that"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "matters I as an intelligence official"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "could say you let's say you're my"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "commander sir uh we have a single source"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "human report indicating that there's"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "going to be an ID attack at this"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "location at this time. That's an"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "analysis. But my confidence level, but"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "sir, it's low confidence because it's"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "one person."}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "Now, let's say that person has a 5year"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "history of excellent reporting, 99%"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "success rate in his int. Oh, well, maybe"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "I can say maybe I'm going to say a"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "medium based on standards that we have."}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "Or maybe that triggers a high confidence"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "because he's such a reliable source."}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "Now, let's say I got a single source"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "report and then I have intercepts of"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "That's again that's the confidence level"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "and I think that's why a lot of times"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "the news organization and you might then"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "see the Sencom commander when they grill"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "him in an open you know congressman play"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "it's like you're a congressman you you"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "know what you're doing you can go to a"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "behind the scenes you know what's going"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "on they brief you have a skiff okay like"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "some of the like I got it all political"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "got it you know but then and you see the"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "you know the general there and he's like"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "or the admiral is like I can't say this"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "here you know I can't he just said well"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "I disagree and we'll talk about that"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "behind a classified setting but that's"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "where you kind of have these"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "disagreements"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "that uh that kind of go on because I"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "think some of that the media doesn't"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "necessarily capture either because they"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "don't want to, they think it over"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "complicates or they don't understand."}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "And one of those is for example like the"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "CIA, we can go to this later, the CNN"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "report of like the CIA assassination"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "against cartel members in Mexico. I I I"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "don't know if you saw that"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:44", "text": ">> from CNN from CNN."}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:46", "text": ">> CNN reported and then New York Times"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "subsequently later but differently said"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "that there was plans that the CIA ground"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "branch had plans to kind of conduct"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "assassinations inside of Mexico against"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "cartel members. Not an intelligent"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "report,"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:56", "text": ">> assassinate them and they work with"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "them."}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:01", "text": ">> So I like some of these again issues um"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "but yeah going like that's what I would"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "say. So you have because now the"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "conversation when the military strikes"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "happened against Iran. It was very"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "different than Venezuela. Yeah, that's"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "the one. I have issues with this report"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "we can go into but"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:17", "text": ">> yeah but let's break it down since we're"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "on it. So what this was from May 12th,"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "2026. So this is a good real life"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "example. What were the things that stood"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "out to you here? It says see by the way"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "I just want to read the headline. CI"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "escalate secret war on cartels with"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "deadly operations inside Mexico."}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:33", "text": ">> Yeah. So, number one, okay, so that"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "video is from a a a car that was"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "driving. This happened near Mexico City"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "and recorded the back end of that"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "explosion. And so, in that car,"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "we I remember seeing this and like when"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "it first came out, it was like that the"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "guy who they killed his name is Begin,"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "right? Been p i y i nin. And you can"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "actually probably find the video of that"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "like of that explosion where they killed"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "him. I don't know if you're going to get"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "flagged for doing that, but that that"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "that's"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:01", "text": ">> just won't put it on the screen,"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:03", "text": ">> but you can. Yeah, but I mean it's like"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "all over ex Twitter, social media, like"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "it's easily found."}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:06", "text": ">> Yeah, let's let's let's watch that and"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "hear it."}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "Um, so first of all, so he so he like he"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "wasn't like I mean you can make the"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "argument like maybe he was mid-level and"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "I mean that's kind of like a stretch in"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "many aspects like oh okay I didn't even"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "know who he was until after the fact and"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "the only reason why I knew who he was is"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "because later accounts identified him"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "working for another guy who's alas is"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "quatrouno four by one right or"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:32", "text": ">> he's basic he's a he's a lieutenant a"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "top lieutenant of the mayito flaccos in"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "Sinaloa Okay, the area where that guy is"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "based out of, last year there was a"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "major drug bust there where they seized"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "multiple meth labs that were producing"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "like tons of methamphetamines, like like"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "an excessive amount of methamphetamines."}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:52", "text": ">> So that's the one."}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "I mean, I think you should be fine, but"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "uh"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:56", "text": ">> yeah, we'll we'll leave it off there"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "just in case YouTube's been really"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "tough."}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:05:59", "text": ">> But that Yeah, that's the one. And so"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "the"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:01", "text": ">> that killed them."}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:03", "text": ">> Yeah, that's because they the argument"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "is they put the explosive devices in the"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "car and and it detonated and killed"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "them. And so when it first happened,"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:11", "text": ">> firework"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:14", "text": ">> when it first happened, we were all"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "like, was this I mean we all assumed it"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "was had to be those chapitos,"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:18", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:20", "text": ">> Right. Like those are the only ones. And"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "then CNN just came out and said, oh no,"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "it was actually the US CIA. And it was"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "like, okay, why would the And then"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "subsequently after that, there's a New"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "York Times report that said, well, it"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "wasn't a CIA unilateral operation done"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "by ground branch. It was a CIA"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "coordinated operation with the Mexicans,"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "and the Mexican intelligence were the"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "one who Well, I don't even think they"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "identified who was the one who did it,"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "but they just said the Mexicans did it."}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:48", "text": ">> It's just the CIA gave the intelligence."}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:51", "text": ">> Okay. still why"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "the the only the only logical"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "explanation I can think of is you want"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "to cause mass paranoia within the"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "organization. So you start doing"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "assassinations. They're thinking there's"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "somebody inside or there's somebody with"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "my rivals working and they they managed"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "to penetrate my organization. They're"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "killing my guys off. So now you cause"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "mass paranoia and mass confusion and"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "then that causes tensions within the"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "organization. I talked to sources from"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "this. They said this [ __ ] like they"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "don't believe it at all. Uh and then um"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:19", "text": ">> what kind of sources are you talking"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "with for that"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:22", "text": ">> without revealing there"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:25", "text": ">> the"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "I would just say"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "let me let me let me answer this."}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "If this were true, if this were true,"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "you would have seen the Mexican"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "government run like wild on this story"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:42", "text": ">> because before this,"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:46", "text": ">> I agree."}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:49", "text": ">> Before this, two CIA officers died in a"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "car accident in Chihuahua."}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "And the Mexican president, by the way,"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "lied through her [ __ ] teeth, saying,"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "\"Oh, we didn't know.\""}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "Right? So this these officers, what"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "happened was they they were they helped"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "the Chihuahua state police do a drug"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "raid that seized a couple of drug labs"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "in Chihuahua, right? Uh I think it was"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "Luis Chaparo then said that the reason"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "why the CIA was involved because they"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "had the tech to help find these drug"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "labs. Okay. But then the federal"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "government, we didn't know CIA was"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "operating in Chihuahua with the"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "Chihuahua state police. Okay. Okay. The"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "CIA is not risking an extensive"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "extensive intelligence cooperation and"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "agreement between the US and Mexico"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "because of a drug lab. Sorry to the"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "people. No, they're not they're not"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "going to do that. Two,"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "uh if they're working with the Chihuahua"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "State Police, the federal government is"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "going to be made aware of that and if"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "anything are also actively cooperating."}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "But why did Claudia Shine Bomb say, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "we weren't aware.\" the governor of"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "Chihuahua belongs to a rival political"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "party"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:49", "text": ">> that then she can use as a political"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "weapon against her for upcoming"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "elections and say because it's not"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "Morena political party right so that's"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "why she said that and I'm my argument is"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "by the way uh the head of security for"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "Mexico like the like what would be"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "equivalent to the um department of"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "homeland security for Mexico or his name"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "is Omar Kharfuch"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "he is uh uh very wellliked in the US. I"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "mean, extremely well-liked, bipartisan"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "support, gets a lot of praises. Uh, he"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "went on Newsmax very interestingly to do"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "his interview with the US media and"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "Newsmax. You know why he wanted to get"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "into, you know, he wants to get in the"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "he wants to get in the conservative in"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "the Trump's ear."}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:29", "text": ">> Omar Karafuch is a very powerful figure"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "within Mexico and has done a lot to"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "coordinate with the United States."}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:34", "text": ">> There's no universe where the CIA would"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "have done an operation in Mexico"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "against, you know, unilaterally in"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "Chihuahua. It just doesn't make any"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "sense. It just doesn't. So then using"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "that as an example, you're telling me"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "that the CNN drops this a couple of"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "weeks later or not even a couple weeks"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "like a week later that their union what"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "did the Mexican government say? Omar"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "Karfuj shortly after this article was"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "published blasted CNN's reporting said"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "this is fundamentally false and then"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "when the New York Times reported well it"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "was the Mex the US intelligence report"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "but it was uh done by the Mexicans"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "Kais Shine literally on her morning"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "press briefing said oh this is fantasy"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "land no the Mexicans didn't kill it like"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "they fun it was a universal condemnation"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "of the not of the US actions but of the"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "reporting"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:20", "text": ">> and so that's why I have a lot of doubt"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "outs on this report and because again it"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "bein"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "I mean he was he maybe you know that he"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "was quatropuno which is mito flaco and"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "there were some drug labs last year but"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "like you know it just it's not a major"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "figure. Thank you guys for watching the"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "episode. If you haven't already please"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "hit that subscribe button and smash that"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "like button on the video. They're both a"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "huge huge help and if you would like to"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "follow me on Instagram and X those links"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "are in my description below. 8."}]

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He's a country."}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "And to De's earlier point, eloquently"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "put, you have to worry about some of"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "these, whether it's Elon or any of them."}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "We're ripping on Peter Teal for good"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "reason. Like, same kind of class here."}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "They're friends, by the way. That's"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "interesting. But like, you have to look"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "at some of these technocratic little,"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "you know, kind of tism elites and the"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "very almost like robotic, you know,"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "y - x equals z way in which they view"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "the world. and therefore humanity and"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "question whether or not they should be"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "the ones with their hands on the lever"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "making all the [ __ ] decisions."}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:03", "text": ">> And I'm not even getting to where these"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "guys fall into the [ __ ] supra"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "government setup. And I'm not even"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "getting to the idea of which guys are"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "more"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "influenced by blackmail and things like"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "that by I don't know hanging out with"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "guys like Jeffrey Epstein, which a lot"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "of these guys did by the way. Reed"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "Hoffman, we'll get we'll get to him. You"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "know, Peter Deal. You got to ask these"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "questions. And then you see Mark"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "Andrees,"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "smart guy, smart guy, I won't take that"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "from him. He's going on Rogan the other"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "day. I see a clip on Twitter where he's"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "talking about all the benefits of AI in"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "the sense that AI doesn't get sick on a"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "Tuesday."}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:43", "text": ">> Doesn't report to HR."}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:45", "text": ">> It doesn't report to HR."}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:46", "text": ">> I was like, why would you say that of"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "all things, you dumb [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:50", "text": ">> That's kind of interesting. That was"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "interesting. has a little maybe a little"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:53", "text": ">> It's funny because I've been seeing"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "those billboards in the city for over"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "almost two full years now. They have"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "them all over where it's like um like"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "get rid of humans, get AI workers now."}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:05", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:06", "text": ">> Nuts. It's It's nuts. And you hear"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "things like this and like this is how"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "they think. And that's why like"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "in one of the episodes this week when"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "when I was having it pointed out like"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "Joe Rogan was apparently floating the"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "idea of like an AI president. I I know"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "things are crazy around here, but like"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "no. No. All due respect to Joe, he's"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "allowed to have bad takes. I think"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "that's a bad take. Like,"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "he had said it apparently at first in"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "the context of they were joking about"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "something, but now he said it a bunch of"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "times on podcast. And I know it's gotten"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "crazy out here. I know the humans"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "running the world aren't exactly doing a"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "great job. I totally understand that."}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "But like, as nuts as this sounds, I'd"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "rather live in a world that experiences"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "massive human tragedy on a scale that"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "has to be overcome across generations"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "with awful things happening along the"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "way, like some of the things we're"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "seeing, by the way, than seed it to a"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "machine-run world that takes us all over"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "and renders us extinct. That's not a"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "controversial opinion. I think I got a"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "lot of good evidence to back that up."}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "Read a [ __ ] book."}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "Last thing, Dave. Ebola."}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:16", "text": ">> Ebola."}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:18", "text": ">> Is Ebola back? Is that Is that Is it"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "Ebola summer?"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:20", "text": ">> Is it a hot Ebola summer?"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:24", "text": ">> I was like, \"Oh, did they just take"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "Hivirus easy just to roll in the Ebola?\""}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:29", "text": ">> The Ebols. I remember the Ebolls 2014"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "scare. This one's happened in the in the"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "Democratic Republic of Congo, I believe."}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "And now there's an American who Trump"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "has said is very much quarantined who is"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "being treated in Germany"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "that Yeah. So it's confirmed an American"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "has tested positive for Ebola. They will"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "not be brought back to the US. That's"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "for the best. And they're being treated"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "in Germany. But with Ebola spreading"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "rapidly in Congo, this is from CBS News."}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "WH upgrades national risk level to quote"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "very high. The head of the WHO said"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "Friday that the Ebola outbreak centered"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "in the DRC is spreading rapidly and now"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "poses a very high risk at a national"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "level. The Ebola outbreak in DRC is"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "spreading rapidly. That's a direct"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "quote. That's a repeat. We are now"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "revising our risk assessment to very"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "high at a national level. The risk of"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "spread remains high within the region"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "and low at global levels, he told"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "reporters. I'm going to stop it right"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "there."}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:26", "text": ">> Nice."}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:30", "text": ">> It remains low."}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:31", "text": ">> Nice. at global levels. Ebola is there's"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "all kinds of horrible symptoms with"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "that. You can Google that. It's a"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "horrible kind of thing. But"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "we're not doing this again. Let me"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "repeat. You can give me the Hanther give"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "me Ebola."}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:48", "text": ">> Give me a little bit of the poot."}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "[ __ ] A little coke. We're not doing it."}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:50", "text": ">> We're not doing it."}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:52", "text": ">> Nah."}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:55", "text": ">> Not here in Jersey."}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:57", "text": ">> Not doing it. I can't do it. I can't."}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:59", "text": ">> Right. I'm not even coming at this"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "aggressively. I'm coming here on my"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "hands and knees like, \"I can't do it"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "again. I can't do it again.\""}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:11", "text": ">> Yeah, man. I mean, look, no one wants to"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "live through that [ __ ] timeline of"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "just people fighting."}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:16", "text": ">> There wouldn't be stimulus checks this"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "time. They'd just take money from us."}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "Like,"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:18", "text": ">> yeah, they'd be like, \"Yo, go [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "yourself.\""}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:21", "text": ">> Oh, you got to do your $1,200 stimulus"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "payment."}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:25", "text": ">> Payment to the government. Yeah. Uh,"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:27", "text": ">> we're just going to take that right"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "there. By the way, Bezos's kind of"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "cooked the other day talking about the"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "the 75K a year nurse in Queens getting"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "taxed $12,000 a year. And he's like,"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "\"That's crazy.\""}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:39", "text": ">> He said, \"By the way, the taxes at that"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "income level and similar income levels"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "represents 3% of the budget. Why can't"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "we find 3% somewhere else?\" Including,"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "he was alluding to from people like him."}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:50", "text": ">> Yeah. You know, for all the ripping we"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "do, righteously so, of these"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "billionaires, including Jeffrey Jeff"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "Bezos,"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "he cooked. He cooked a little bit there."}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "Something to be said for that."}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:01", "text": ">> It felt weird calling him Jeffrey Bezos"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "for a second there. I could tell"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:04", "text": ">> it felt a little bit weird."}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:06", "text": ">> It's like the name Jeffrey. You just got"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "to throw it in a [ __ ] furnace."}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:12", "text": ">> I appreciate the same guy hiring a crane"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "to lower his furniture into his 20"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "whatever street penthouse. That's public"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "information. penthouse apartment in New"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "York. I appreciate him pretending at"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "least to look out for the nurse in Queen"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "who in Queens who's saving lives and"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "trying to feed a family. I wish he would"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "do that for his own Amazon workers."}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:34", "text": ">> Remember that one?"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:36", "text": ">> Oh, I remember a lot of those ones."}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:38", "text": ">> Hey. Hey, don't look at that body. We"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "got We need those boxes. We need stack."}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "Come on."}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:41", "text": ">> We need that stack [ __ ] moved right"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "over there."}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:45", "text": ">> Fine. She's good."}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:46", "text": ">> Get on the line. He's good. Get on the"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "line. Wear the diaper."}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:48", "text": ">> The cleanup crew in. We This is not"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "good."}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:51", "text": ">> Wear the diaper. Die. We got to cut it"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "there. I'm I'm like way too I told you"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "the shoulder injury. I'm too amped these"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "days."}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:56", "text": ">> Too amped."}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:57", "text": ">> I'm getting a little better. I'll be"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "I'll be good in a couple weeks and I"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "won't be so fired up for these. But"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "thank you to everyone for subscribing"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "and liking the video. If you have not"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "subscribed, please make sure you do"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "that. It's a huge help. We are putting"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "out these episodes every weekend. 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[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "The science of great sex. Where do we"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "start here? You have to understand it"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "from three different perspectives."}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "Personal, relational, and societal. So,"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "personal, are you a healthy person? Do"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "you have to go see a doctor? Is there"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "pain? Like, what about you brings the"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "best sex [music] partner to the table?"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "Not just physical stuff, too. Mental,"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "emotional, psychological. You got to"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "figure out that everything's aligned"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "personally. Second aspect is relational."}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "[music] Our preferences, our"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "communication, our relationship in"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "general. If the relationship isn't in a"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "good state, it's not going to be good."}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "And then societal, what are societal"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "norms that affect your life negatively?"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "If you're in a society like a lot of"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "places in the Middle East, women can't"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "really have any sex desire, can they?"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "They have to cover their whole body and"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "only show their eyes. These things have"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "to go right in order for you to foster"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "[music] a great life."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "In military, sometimes men are taught"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "toxic masculinity. [music]"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "Can you tell me what you think is the"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "difference between healthy masculinity"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "and toxic masculinity? I think toxic"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "masculinity is a facade. It's somebody"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "that is not comfortable enough in their"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "own skin to be a man, and so they"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "over-embellish [music]"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "what they think masculinity is."}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "Over-embellishment of how much they like"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "violence, how [music] long their beard"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "is, constantly want to throw their"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "weight around everywhere, bossing people"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "around. And then real masculinity, I"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "think, is you are comfortable [music]"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "with your masculinity, so you don't need"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "to over-embellish it. You don't have to"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "display it 24 hours a day, let everybody"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "know how tough you are. People will"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "figure that out on their own."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "More than 1/3 of Americans in"}, {"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "relationships are sex unsatisfied. Sex"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "[music] communication is the single most"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "powerful predictor of sex satisfaction"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "above physical technique, [music]"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "frequency, or attraction."}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:16", "text": ">> The misguided belief that a lot of"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "people have is [music] having a partner"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "solves all issues. When in fact,"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "communication is the most important"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "thing in a relationship. People who say,"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "\"I just don't bother anymore. I'll just"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "do it myself. [music] Same result,"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "right?\" Well, it's not the same because"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "what's missing is human connection. That"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "sex connection with your partner [music]"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "is the distinguishing difference between"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "a friendship, roommate friendship, and a"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "romantic relationship. When they don't"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "have it and they think [music] it's"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "fine, whatever. We can coexist and do"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "life together. Not only it affects their"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "relational health, it affects [music]"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "their emotional health, their mental"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "health, their physical health. And you"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "need that, especially in the world where"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "we're so [music] distant from each other"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "through social media, the internet, and"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "spending a lot of time at home watching"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "TV."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "People that don't find their partner"}, {"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "attractive, how does that happen?"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:06", "text": ">> There's three different types of"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "attractiveness. Physical attractiveness,"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "social attractiveness, and task"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "attractiveness. Physical attractiveness"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "is easy. Some people love a bald head."}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "Some people love long hair. Some people"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "love blue eyes. Some people love brown"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "eyes. Physical attractiveness is one"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "pillar. Social [music] attractiveness is"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "personality and communication style."}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "When you date someone, you have [music]"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "to like their personality. Do you tend"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "to be attracted to someone who's very"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "extroverted or lean towards more"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "introvert? The last one is task"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "attractiveness, [music] capabilities,"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "intelligence, success, financial"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "stability. If you have all three, you"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "have a great foundation to have whatever"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "fulfilling life you desire and deserve."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "A lot of people aren't attracted to"}, {"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "[music] their partner."}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:04", "text": ">> I've talked to a couple that haven't had"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "sex for 5 years."}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:07", "text": ">> How old are they? They were in their"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "50s. That's right around the corner for"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "me. Men [music] can experience like a"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "drop in testosterone. Women can"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "experience menopause. All of those"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "things affect your sexual desire. Even"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "if we remove that part, do you still"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "find your partner attractive? And it's"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "[music] something that people are so"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "afraid to admit because they don't want"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "to first like come off shallow. Like,"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "oh, so you only like someone because of"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "their physical attractiveness. So, how"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "do you coach somebody that comes in"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "that's not having sex? And how do you"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "get them to explore and figure out what"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "they're into? When I ask my students,"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "[music] and I teach a class of 120, how"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "do you like it? Describe what you like"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "in bed. They go, uh"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "missionary?"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "They don't know how to describe what"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "needs to happen in order for the alchemy"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "to happen, in order for it to feel so"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "[music] exciting, interesting,"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "fulfilling, and satisfying. They don't"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "know."}]

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If you're not seeing people in real"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "life, you probably are not dating or or"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "having sex."}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "Dating apps?"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:33", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:35", "text": ">> Have you done it? Have"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:35", "text": ">> Yeah. Have you ever been on a dating"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "app?"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:37", "text": ">> I've been on a dating app."}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:39", "text": ">> Yeah. Was it"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:40", "text": ">> a long time ago?"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:41", "text": ">> What's that?"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:43", "text": ">> Was it exhausting?"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:46", "text": ">> I didn't put much effort into it."}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:49", "text": ">> Yeah. If you do, it's exhausting. Like,"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "you know, it is a good way to meet"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "people if you're so busy. If you work,"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "you know, from morning till evening and"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "then have dinner and then you don't have"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "time to go out and like meet new people"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "in real life, it's a good way to meet"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "people because then you meet them"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "online. You can kind of tell if you like"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "each other physically and then you"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "message to meet them in person. But the"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "problem is a lot of people don't even"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "meet anyone in person. They're"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:18", "text": ">> I didn't I barely met anybody. The it"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "was that's a lot of pressure."}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:24", "text": ">> Yeah. And then the ones that I did meet,"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "it was like that was 75 lb ago. That"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "photo was 75 lbs ago. That's This isn't"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:32", "text": ">> So there's research that shows um that"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "women lie the most about their weight"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "and men lie the most about their height."}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:36", "text": ">> Oh, really?"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:38", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:41", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:45", "text": ">> Yeah. So, yeah, that exists. Catfishing"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "exists. You show up, you're like, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "you don't look anything like your"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "photos."}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "It's a disappointment. Like, it's such a"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "bad thing to do because"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "do you think when they see you in"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "person, they will go, \"Oh, I like you.\""}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "Regardless because they know you,"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:05", "text": ">> you can't they they can't trust you."}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:08", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:10", "text": ">> If you start off a relationship with,"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "\"Oh, I can't trust this person because"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "they lied about what they look like.\""}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "They that you started at like a"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "negative, not even at a zero."}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:20", "text": ">> Yeah. So that's terrible. But I I get it"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "when people say they're exhausted about"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "dating apps because humans we were"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "historically"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "when when was a time where we were"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "exposed to thousands and thousands of"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "people every week"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "back in the days our ancestors"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "never"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:40", "text": ">> never"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:42", "text": ">> we were in little tribes, right? Just"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "even evolutionarily"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "we our way back ancestors we were in"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "tribes. We only knew like 100 people max"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:52", "text": ">> and we don't even know all of them."}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:54", "text": ">> But we live in a little tribe and we all"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "take care of each other and that's like"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "all the people we know. And now you"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "swipe from people in Australia,"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "in Germany, in Japan and"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "I think it's really hard on a person's"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "mental load to go through dating apps"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "and still be engaged and feel positive"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "about it. I think that's why a lot of"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "drop offs like a lot of Gen Z's are not"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "participating but then where do they"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "meet because they also don't hang out"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "socialize in person if you only"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "socialize 5 hours a week. Uh so that is"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "a big puzzle that a lot of people are"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "talking about but there isn't"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "necessarily"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "one big cure like obviously it's getting"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "off your phones."}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:43", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:47", "text": ">> Right. spending more time with people,"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "teaching Gen Z's um relational"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "maintenance strategies,"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "uh friendship initiation strategies, how"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "do you like talk to people, ask them"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "out, not even romantically, just"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "spending time with other people,"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "teaching social skills, uh communication"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "skills, and how to foster friendships."}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "There are so many things we can talk"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "about with this issue,"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:13", "text": ">> man. If they're not learning that, then"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "the then the the generation after them"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "is going to be"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "even worse."}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:21", "text": ">> Yeah. Your kids or Gen Alpha is"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "completely different. These are iPad"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "kids cuz the Gen Z's are not iPad kids."}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "They're the Zoom schools. So the Gen"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "Z's, they went to Zoom school"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "during the most important years of"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "social development"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:37", "text": ">> because of co"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:42", "text": ">> co."}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "So these kids went to school alone, just"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "watch other people on a screen, uh stay"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "at home alone, do their homework alone."}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "They didn't have socialization for quite"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "a few years of their major developmental"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "years. And then now they're in college."}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "And a lot of colleges now offer just"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "Zoom, just online classes because that's"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "how they that's the modality that"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "they're used to. and how they like to go"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "to school. Like I know this because I"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "teach some online classes and those are"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "always full cuz my students want to take"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "online classes. They don't want to go to"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "campus."}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "So"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "you have Zoom school generation"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "not hanging out in person that much, not"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "participating in dating and sex that"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "much."}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "What's going to happen?"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:38", "text": ">> What do you tell these kids? I mean, if"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "if 80% of the generation is lonely,"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "I mean, how do you tell them you got to"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "get out there? Go to go to a bar. Go to"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "like go to a club."}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:48", "text": ">> You really have too much social anxiety"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "to go to a bar."}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:51", "text": ">> Holy [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:52", "text": ">> Mhm. There's a lot of social anxiety."}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "It's also a heavily medicated"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "generation."}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "Um, very common for people to say like,"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "you know, like, oh, I'm on this, this,"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "and this."}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "And that has"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "people have different thoughts about"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "that."}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:13", "text": ">> What are your thoughts on western"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "medicine and medicating people?"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:17", "text": ">> Oh, I think it's unraveling at a record"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "pace right now."}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:21", "text": ">> Mhm. Mhm."}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:23", "text": ">> I think we're we are overmedicated."}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:26", "text": ">> Mhm. I think we are too. I'm trying to"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "walk the line of not shaming people that"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "actually need it versus talking about"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "how some people don't need it, but they"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "think they do."}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:34", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:37", "text": ">> Because pharmaceuticals tell you."}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:38", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:40", "text": ">> Yeah. Because there are people that"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "actually have these internal problems"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "and they need medication in order to"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "function uh in a society. But then there"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "are people that just like, \"Oh, I'm just"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "I'm so anxious. Like, I need this."}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "or I don't think I can focus like I"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "can't study I need to take this right"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "like taking aderal to study is like very"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "common"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:06", "text": ">> um"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "yeah I grew up differently because I"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "grew up in Asia"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "we didn't believe in medication you know"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "we were like boiling leaves and drinking"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "things and my mom giving me like goji"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "berries to see better or things like"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "that and meditation"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "instead of uh medication for ADHD."}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "Right? When I was young, I was all over"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "the place, lots of energy. I was sent to"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "meditation camp almost every summer."}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:40", "text": ">> Meditation camp gave me concentration."}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "Yeah. Junior medit meditation camp where"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "you meditate hours in a day like"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "different sessions, different teachers"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:47", "text": ">> and they force you to meditate."}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:50", "text": ">> Do you still meditate?"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:52", "text": ">> Yeah, I meditate every day and pray"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "every day as well. How long?"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:56", "text": ">> Meditating 5 minutes, pray for 5"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "minutes."}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:07:59", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:02", "text": ">> Yeah. Um,"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "but you know, the way I grew up is you,"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "if you have ADHD, you meditate"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "until you learn how to concentrate and"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "be in your own flow. And then now I can"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "concentrate."}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "But I think here"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "you like slap a band-aid on a problem,"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "right? No one has time to teach their"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "kids to meditate or stay still or be"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "okay with being bored and stay still."}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "They just say, \"Oh, okay.\" Like, \"Take"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "this. Take Admiral so that you can"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "focus.\""}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:34", "text": ">> You're damn wrong."}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:37", "text": ">> Or take a Xanax so you can chill. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "You're too anxious, take this. You can't"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "sleep, take this. Um, you're nervous to"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "go on a date, take this. You can't get"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "it up, take this."}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "Your vagina doesn't get wet, take this."}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "We have a pharmaceutical society."}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:55", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:57", "text": ">> Yeah. Some things I think we do need,"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "but a lot of things we don't. And so"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "that's a part of the problem of Gen Z as"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "well is it's heavily medicated and it's"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "almost um celebrated. Like it's fun to"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "talk about."}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:10", "text": ">> Oh man."}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:11", "text": ">> And I've seen that in my students. Um, I"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "still personally, I'm going to be"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "honest, haven't found a way to talk"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "about it in a way that doesn't help make"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "them feel ashamed because I also don't"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "want to say like you don't need that."}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "Like, you know,"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "cuz it's tough between the line of"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "whether they need it or not. You know,"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "I'm not their medical doctor. I haven't"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "read their tests."}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:33", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:33", "text": ">> But my guess is a lot of them don't need"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "it."}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:38", "text": ">> Yep. I'll bet you're right. And all of"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "those things combined also affect the"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "way they can date and have sex. Cuz when"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "you're on SSRI,"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "you don't have sexual desire. What is"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "Only Fans and porn doing to an entire"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "generation right now? And is this going"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "to be looked at? Is this going to be"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "looked back on as one of the most"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "damaging cultural shifts in history?"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:03", "text": ">> Oh, that's a big question."}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "The answer is not as simple. The answer"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "is is it mindful or mindless"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "consumption."}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:18", "text": ">> If it's mindless consumption, it is"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "extremely damaging and detrimental"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "and it will have a negative impact for a"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "long time. If it's mindful consumption,"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "which let's talk about what that looks"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "like. If you use porn like let's see"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "once a month to um find new inspiration,"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "new positions, new acts to try with a"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "partner or maybe you watch it together."}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "There are studies that show that couples"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "that watch porn together mindfully to"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "inspire them into like arousal or"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "exploration, it's great for the"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "relationship. So mindful consumption is"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "fine. You can watch ethical porn. Have"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "you heard of ethical porn?"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:02", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:04", "text": ">> So there's mainstream porn which"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "historically speaking there's like a"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "gatekeeper like these producers,"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "directors, they abuse their performers."}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "The performers get paid very minimal."}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:16", "text": ">> Um they have to fake it. Sometimes they"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "hate the person that they have to have"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "sex with. A lot of things are fake in"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "this scene. It's made unethically."}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "Ethical porn is a movement. There are"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "companies that are um women-owned"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "uh people that are really that really"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "care about sex education that make"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "erotic films"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:41", "text": ">> that involve real life um that involve"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "what the enactment of real life"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "interactions, right? Some awkwardness,"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "some laughs. Uh you know, two people"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "that have good chemistry really enjoy"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "having sex with each other. They all get"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "paid um fairly. They all get treated"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "respectfully on set and there's"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "transparency of how they're made."}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "There's a discussion before and after uh"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "how they take care of themselves. They"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "talk about how they get tested, all of"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "those things. So that's ethical porn. So"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "let let's say you consume that once"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "every two weeks to find arousal or"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "inspiration to try new things or you"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "consume it with your partner as a new"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "things to spice it up. I don't see"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "there's any problem with that. I think"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "it's just a tool. It's how you use it."}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "So that's mindful consumption."}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "Mindless consumption is what most people"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "are doing right now is they go on every"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "single day or every single time they"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "masturbate. They click and click and"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "click and click and they stay on it"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "forever and get these dopamine hits"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "every time they click to see a new woman"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "on the screen."}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "And these dopamine hits, they're so"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "addictive, just like social media."}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "That's why people love scrolling because"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "it's new thing, new thing, new thing,"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "new thing. Dopamine, dopamine, dopamine,"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "dopamine. Ah, I feel great. Rewarded all"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "the time."}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "Porn is the same. So, new video, new"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "video, new girl, new girl. Doing crazy"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "things uh sexually. Wow. Then you become"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "so addicted to it, you become reliant on"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "it, you cannot"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "live a sexually fulfilling life without"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "it. That's mindless consumption and"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "that's a problem. And that's"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "detrimental."}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:24", "text": ">> No matter where you're watching the"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "Shaun Ryan Show from, if you get"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "anything out of this at all, anything,"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "please like, comment, and subscribe. And"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "most importantly, share this everywhere"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "you possibly can. And if you're feeling"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "extra generous, head to Apple Podcast"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "and Spotify and leave us a"}]

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[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "How are you dealing with all these"}, {"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "people coming after you?"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:07", "text": ">> You had no idea that was going to"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "happen."}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:11", "text": ">> We were good friends."}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:16", "text": ">> Got Trump saying your low IQ. I read I"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "got the tweet here, but I'm not going to"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "lie."}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:19", "text": ">> And nut job too. Low IQ. Nut job."}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:21", "text": ">> Mark Lev"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:22", "text": ">> and I said this is our first Jewish"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "president"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:27", "text": ">> and he loves Israel too. It's true."}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:29", "text": ">> Ben Shapiro. How did all this happen?"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "His point was that you were sounding"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "like a neocon and he's upset with"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "anybody who wants us to get too involved"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "in Israel's conflict because he feels it"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "endangers American children."}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:44", "text": ">> It's because of Israel. It's over Israel"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "and now Iran."}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:47", "text": ">> Ben Shapiro turned on me at the Turning"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "Point event in December."}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:49", "text": ">> I saw that."}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:50", "text": ">> I'm going to give you a defense of"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "Tucker here and and I don't need to"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "defend Tucker because I'm not Tucker."}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "But I'll just say I think in general cuz"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "I know him and I listen to him and I I"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "understand generally where he's coming"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "from. He would say his problems are with"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "Israel. I saw this tape of myself after"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "Charlie died and I was on the air"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:07", "text": ">> counting or not counting gang violence."}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "Great."}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:11", "text": ">> And one of the first people I mentioned"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "was poor Ben. We were good friends. Sean"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "Ben Shapiro too just tweeted something"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "out. He's been under threat too. Poor"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "Ben."}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:21", "text": ">> We're going to pick up that bloodstained"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "microphone where Charlie left it."}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "And I read Ben's tweet about Charlie,"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "you know, empathetically and"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "sympathetically, and I had nothing but"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "love for Ben"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "is in a place right now of the same"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "place that Charlie was getting to toward"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "the end of his life."}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:40", "text": ">> The behavior by a lot, both privately"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "and publicly are pushing people like you"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "and me away. The way you are treating me"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "is so repulsive. I have text messages,"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "Megan, calling me an anti-semite."}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:52", "text": ">> And I thought, are are we not good? And"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "why are we not good?"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "Hey, I'm Megan Kelly. You can watch my"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "episode early on Vigilance Elite"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "Patreon. Check it out."}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:05", "text": ">> [ __ ] Hey, that was a"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:06", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:09", "text": ">> Hell yeah."}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:09", "text": ">> There it is."}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:13", "text": ">> And next thing I knew, Sean, he was"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "standing on the stage at Turning Point"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "ripping me as a coward. And the people"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "who refuse to condemn Candace's truly"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "vicious attacks, and some of them are"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "speaking here, are guilty of cowardice."}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:27", "text": ">> Allegedly, because I wouldn't call out"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "Candace Owens and what she was saying"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "about Erica Kirk."}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:37", "text": ">> Oh, no. No. Now,"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:39", "text": ">> it was about my not ending my friendship"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "with Tucker,"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "which is the thing that he had been"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "pushing me on. You know, it's only one"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "side asking me to deffriend the other"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "side."}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:51", "text": ">> Nice."}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:51", "text": ">> I hit it."}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:59", "text": ">> I mean, you saw the Golden Globe. You"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "You got nominated for a Golden Globe,"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:03", "text": ">> Well, we Yes, but then we said take our"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "name off the list."}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:04", "text": ">> Oh, you did?"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:06", "text": ">> Yeah. We weren't going to pay money to"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "go get considered by those Hollywood"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "libtards."}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:10", "text": ">> Nice."}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:13", "text": ">> This is exactly how I pictured it. Snoop"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "giving me the award. Thank you so much."}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:18", "text": ">> Ben Shapiro spent millions to buy an ad"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "of his face in Time Square so that he"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "could win."}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:21", "text": ">> Worked out for him, didn't it?"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:24", "text": ">> I'm assuming millions. How How much does"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "it cost to put your face on the entire"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "side of an enormous high-rise building,"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "which is what he did to convince the"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "Hollywood"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "Golden Globe crowd to vote for his show,"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "which by the way was never going to"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "happen anyway. They weren't going to"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "vote for a conservative podcast."}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "What about the AI stuff? Are you worried"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "about that?"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:47", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:48", "text": ">> What are you worried about?"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:50", "text": ">> I'm worried that Elon says no one should"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "start a retirement fund cuz we're not"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "going to need it."}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:55", "text": ">> I mean, with artificial intelligence, we"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "are summoning the demon."}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:59", "text": ">> I I do worry about super intelligence"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "and the machine somehow taking over. We"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "could kill it."}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:02", "text": ">> You think AI will eventually have its"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "own agency?"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:06", "text": ">> Yeah, I do. I I do. I believe they're"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "going to get super intelligent. And what"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "where are they getting their money in"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "this scenario? from the government, from"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "anthropic, from open AAI, Sam Alman."}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:16", "text": ">> You understand how this sounds like an"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "accusation?"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:19", "text": ">> He's gonna have to dole it out like the"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "communist government to them. That's"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "that'll be meaningful. That that's going"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "to work out well for us."}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:23", "text": ">> Do you think that's where this is"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "headed?"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:26", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "but I mean, what's a what's a friend?"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "What's an ally? It's somebody who"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "actually cares about your interests as"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "well or who will at least cooperate with"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "you to advance your interests. That's"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "certainly what we've done for Israel."}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "What have they done for us?"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:43", "text": ">> The first bill that I'm going to bring"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "to this floor in just a little while"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "will be in support of our de dear friend"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "Israel. And we're overdue in getting"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "that done."}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "I'm going to be honest. I I feel like"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "the United States is just a [ __ ] cow"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "pasture full of cattle for Israel. We"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "fight their wars. 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And we also think,"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "you know, Mars used to be more in that"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "like habitable zone. So, we think of,"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "you know, Earth being in the habitable"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "zone where you can have liquid water."}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "And so we think Mars used to be a little"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "bit more in that habitable zone that's"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "where Earth is,"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:04", "text": ">> right? And then it's kind of slowly"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "shifted outward kind of in the formation"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "of things. And again,"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:09", "text": ">> geological timelines, I mean, this is"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "over the span of, you know, millions and"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "millions of years. But, you know, with"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "uh with the way we used to or think Mars"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "used to look, it just used to have a lot"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "more potential uh especially than what"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "we see from today. So that's why there's"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "always been that that interest in what"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "could be there or what used to be there."}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "Um, and yeah, there's still a lot of"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "interest, I think. Um, there's kind of a"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "bit of a balance, I guess, because I'm"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "my research is certainly in the"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "possibility of microorganisms that used"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "to live on Mars or even, you know, if"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "there's any way to to find things and"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "we're still discovering stuff. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "we recently just discovered a whole new"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "slew of new minerals that, uh, the"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "Curiosity Rover just discovered. Um,"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "honestly, it was a new paper that just"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "came out. They found some minerals that"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "we hadn't classified yet. Um, and so"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "that was really interesting. um to look"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "at"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:57", "text": ">> on Mars."}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:00", "text": ">> Yeah. So they're constantly sampling"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "Mars with the with the rovers. And so"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "with that they are, you know, collecting"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "new samples and some minerals we've seen"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "in like meteorites that have come from"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "Mars. Um and then some we've seen with"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "like other, you know, collections, but"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "this one had a few new ones. And so"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "that's been really interesting. So"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "there's still so much we don't know. So"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "[clears throat] it's so hard because"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "it's it's easy to jump to so many"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "conclusions. And really science as a"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "whole is always jumping to conclusions."}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "with some unknowns. But yeah, we're"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "still learning so much about Mars that"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "we didn't even know previously. So, it's"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "going to be interesting and why a lot of"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "interest is in a human mission, right?"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "Because we have these rovers. They're"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "discovering a lot of stuff that we"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "didn't know about the planet. But rovers"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "have such long timelines, right? Because"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "of like the time delay between Earth and"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "Mars. So, if you were to send a message"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "to Mars, right?"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:51", "text": ">> Yeah. How fast can we send those"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "messages? It's usually about like 15"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "minutes when Mars is like pretty close"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "to us. Um, it can get like upwards to"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "like longer to like 30-ish minutes, but"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:01", "text": ">> we can't do it at light speed."}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:04", "text": ">> No, not quite that fast. Usually there"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "there is usually about a 15ish minute"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "time delay that a lot of the people that"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "work with the rovers also have to deal"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "with. So you have to think of the rovers"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "as such an incredibly slow process"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "because if you're like move forward 2"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "feet, 15 minutes later it hears it, it"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "does that then you know 15 another 15"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "minutes later it's like I successfully"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "moved 2 feet. So like in the span of"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "like maybe even minimally 30 minutes"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "you've moved like a couple feet. So, it"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "just is such a slow process and that's"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "really been a big um one of the big"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "benefits about potentially sending"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "humans rather than kind of some of the"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "more robotic technology that we have"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "there is that a human can actually oh"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "that rock looks interesting. Let's"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "collect that. Let's do this. Let's do"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "this experiment. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:45", "text": ">> Um"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:49", "text": ">> we would have to get like some some"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "SpaceX uh Starlink satellites going so"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "we can get some super high speeded"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "broadband Wi-Fi, you know,"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:54", "text": ">> better the technology. Yeah, I mean I"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "think that"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:57", "text": ">> I mean even I think even light speeded"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "communication would still be like a few"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "minutes."}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:02", "text": ">> Yeah, I think certainly I mean that area"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "is one to improve. I don't think it's"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "like um you know if we can't get that"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "working I don't think it's going to"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "completely you know make it to where the"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "mission isn't possible. I think we've"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "learned to adapt with like the timelines"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "that we currently have, but yeah, it"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "certainly doesn't make it easy and if"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "there's any room to improve there. But"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "kind of the the big I guess back and"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "forth within especially my field is also"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "the idea of planetary protection, right?"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "because we want to send humans to really"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "uncover a lot of these things that we"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "want to learn about Mars and maybe the"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "possibility of past life, but then you"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "also, I guess, run into the potential of"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "contamination. And you don't want to"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "potentially find something that we think"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "was past life on Mars, but then it's"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "like"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:46", "text": ">> bring it back here."}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:47", "text": ">> Well, not even that, but even just we"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "think we found life on Mars, but just"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "someone touched a rock and it's like our"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "own organisms. And so, it's like very"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "much a an element of like keeping things"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "separate. 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[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "So tell me about this nuclear propulsion"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "stuff. I've never heard of this."}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:06", "text": ">> Yeah. So it was"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:09", "text": ">> Have we ever used it before?"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:11", "text": ">> No. I think um I think this mission to"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "Mars is going to be the first that"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "they're like really using it for and"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "that is going uh it was like recently um"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "the NASA administrator said cuz he kind"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "of was aligning or laying out some of"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "the plans for like the next Aremis"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "missions and then also mentioned this"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "Mars mission. Uh so like I said, I think"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "it's planned for 2028. We'll see if that"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "timeline gets met, but I do know that it"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "has been"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:34", "text": ">> this satellite being launched."}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:35", "text": ">> Yes. Yes. Yeah. So, it's um it's going"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "to just kind of be testing this"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "propulsion system, which I know is"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "something that has been worked on for a"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "while cuz what a lot of what I was like"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "hearing was that the big goal was to try"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "to reduce a mission to Mars timeline"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "from 6 months to 6 weeks to make it a"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "way more reasonable timeline. So, that"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "was the ultimate goal. Um, so I'm not"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "sure if this will I guess we'll see"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "whenever this mission goes, you know,"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "how long it takes and how much of an"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "improvement this propulsion is, but um I"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "do know that it's been a a big goal for"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "a long time."}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:10", "text": ">> Yeah. And what are some of the other"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "like uh biggest hurdles as far as"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "traveling to Mars other than the time,"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "right? Because the time is an insane"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "one. You kind of have to be like"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:21", "text": ">> to be the person that's going to be"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "willing to do that. you kind of like you"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "got to be able you got to be willing to"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "kiss your whole life goodbye, right?"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "Because there's a good chance you're not"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "going to come back."}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:32", "text": ">> Yeah. I think that for like a mission to"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "Mars, I think Yeah. I personally think"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "timeline is our number one biggest issue"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "just because a lot of the other issues"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "that are with the Mars mission, we've"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "semi"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:44", "text": ">> combed them before or like maybe not to"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "the extent of like a mission to Mars,"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "but there's been almost like similar"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "scenarios. Um, I uh think at least for"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "the first missions, I don't think"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "there's going to be a possibility of a"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "one-way mission. At least especially"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "from NASA themselves. So unless it's"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "like Elon or like a private industry"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "pursuing some sort of oneway, I don't"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "think NASA will ever do a one-way"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "mission. No."}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:12", "text": ">> So they uh um have always been I guess"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "the core of their goal is to you know"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "have this scientific expedition,"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "scientific discovery and then bring the"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "astronauts home. So, I don't think Mars"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "will be different and I don't think they"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "will do a Mars mission until the option"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "of a return is possible. So, you know, I"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "think that if they're pursuing a Mars"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "mission, it's because there's like the"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "means of coming back. Um, so we'll see"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "if that delays the timeline and making"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "sure that we have more technology to get"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "there and, you know, that maybe opens"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "room for, I guess, commercial endeavors"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "if they if they have that interest. But"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "yeah, I think a lot of of the Mars"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "mission will certainly be a multi-way."}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "Um, but not to say that a oneway isn't"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "possible in the future, but I think that"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "for like the first missions, we'll"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "certainly have returns."}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:58", "text": ">> Yeah. And then what the radiation must"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "be a huge problem."}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:03", "text": ">> Yeah, I think radiation would certainly"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "be the next um you know, second to time"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "the timeline just because Yeah. It's"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "dangerous and um it is certainly a"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "challenging one. I know that a big idea"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "especially even for on the moon, you"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "know, is looking at having like habitats"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "and stuff subsurface. So going like"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "having the actual habitat be beneath the"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "surface so that way you have the actual"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "surface of Mars protecting you from some"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "of that radiation while you're there."}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "Um, and then there's also been a bunch"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "of ideas of like actually protecting the"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "capsule or like whatever you're in. Um,"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "but obviously there's plenty of ideas,"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "but nothing's like set in stone."}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:39", "text": ">> What is this, Steve? Oh, this is an"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "article about it."}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:42", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:45", "text": ">> History and mystery surround NASA's 2028"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "nuclear Mars mission fisionpowered space"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "flight. A 60-year dream would"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "supercharge the outer solar system"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "exploration. So, is this going to like"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "literally be like a nuclear detonation"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "when it when it launches or"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:01", "text": ">> that would be how it works?"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:03", "text": ">> Okay. Nearly all of today's space misses"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "rely on chemical rockets uh which"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "require vast quantities of heavy fuel"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "and are comparatively slow. Instead,"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "nuclear electric propulsion, NEP, relies"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "on fision to generate heat, which gets"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "converted to electricity via a gas"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "turbine. This power in turn ionizes a"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "gas propellant into a plasma that shoots"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "continuously out of the thrusters."}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "Wow."}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:26", "text": ">> Yeah. So, I would say so the actual like"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "satellite system that they're using for"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "this, that's going to have the nuclear"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "propulsion. The actual rocket that's"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "launching off of Earth will not have"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "nuclear. So they'll still launch it from"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "Earth as if it was like normal and then"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "they'll deploy the actual satellite that"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "has the nuclear propulsion and then that"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "satellite will then take off to Mars"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "using the nuclear propulsion. So it will"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "essentially get like turned on I guess."}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:51", "text": ">> How far will the rocket go?"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:53", "text": ">> Uh probably just a low Earth orbit. So"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:55", "text": ">> each satellite will have a separate"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "propuls propulsion system that will"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "shoot it into Mars."}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:00", "text": ">> Yeah. So almost all like rockets are"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "just going to be like your vessel to get"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "to space. Once you're in space then cuz"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "so much of the rocket gets like used up"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "just by the time it gets to space. So"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "that's why even like with the Artemis"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "mission, the solid rocket boosters,"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "they're spent. They get taken off. They"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "they jettison. You know, kind of the big"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "core stage that gets jettisoned. You use"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "up all that fuel. The hardest part about"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "getting to space is leaving Earth"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:22", "text": ">> just because all of that gravity, you"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "need so much thrust, you need so much"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "fuel. That's the hard part. That's why"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "rockets are so big and they take so much"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "fuel. But once you're in space, you"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "know, you have much more flexibility."}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "There's you don't have like all those"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "forces fighting you. So, more than"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "likely they'll use, you know, I mean,"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "they may even use like a SpaceX rocket"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "or a um"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:43", "text": ">> or a NASA rocket or, you know, Delta"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "Heavy, whatever it takes for for the"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "satellite to just get it to space and"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "then they'll deploy it and it's going to"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "be using that that nuclear power to to"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "actually get to Mars. And that's going"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "to be the the interesting part. And for"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "the Mars mission once you have to refuel"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "in like the in like orbit or something."}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:05", "text": ">> So I think it just kind of depends on"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "what the mission's going to look like. I"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "mean there's possibilities. I mean you"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "could have a case where you go from"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "Earth to the moon, you know, maybe do"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "like a fuel stop. Um depending on how"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "big of a vessel you have actually going"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "to Mars, you could have enough fuel to"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "to go there. So, I think it just kind of"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "depends on what it ends up looking like."}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "I know some ideas have been like almost"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "having like a miniature international"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "space station almost being like the"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "vessel of going to Mars. So, like you'll"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "launch and then you'll dock with almost"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "this miniature space station and then"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "that's going to be the thing going to"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "Mars."}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:42", "text": ">> So, it just depends on what logistically"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "works out. I mean, again, with the Mars"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "mission, since it's so theoretical,"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "there's so many ideas of possibilities"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "of what we could do with sending humans"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "to Mars, but like obviously nothing's"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "been like concrete selected for it,"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:58", "text": ">> right? How much testing and trial and"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "error and how much experimentation is"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "being done or floated around on how to"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "logistically get people their safe? Like"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "do they do do you know if they know like"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "will you go to sleep for the 6 months"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "that you're traveling there and go into"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "like a hibernation or like how much of"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "that stuff has actually been thought"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "about?"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:22", "text": ">> Yeah, I think there's been a lot. I"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "think space is as a whole it's always"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "longterm. You can't do anything fast in"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "the space industry. Not a single idea or"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "a single thing that we see happen is you"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "know a quick endeavor. I mean, even you"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "look at the Aremis mission that just"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "launched, right? The Aremis mission or I"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "guess you can even go back to Artemis"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "one, which didn't have humans on it, but"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "it was the start of the Aremis program."}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "I mean, that was in, you know, a few"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "years ago. And that has been an endeavor"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "since the space shuttle program ended in"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "2011. So from 2011 to now is how long"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "it's taken to, you know, build this new"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "rocket, get it going, actually have it"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "on the launch pad and make it a reality."}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "And so it's really funny cuz like from"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "someone that like hears so much of like"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "what's going on in the space industry,"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "you know, the public's like, \"Oh my"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "gosh, this rocket just shot up overnight"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "and now it's taking astronauts. Like is"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "it safe?\" Um, but you know, it's been"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "tested for, you know, over 10 years now."}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "And so it's been an endeavor that's been"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "happening and the Mars mission is no"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "different. I mean there's a lot of also"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "just like academic research that goes"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "into a lot of this too. So like"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "universities I mean there's people that"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "will do like human studies and you do"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "like analog missions and they have"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "humans practicing that human human"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "interaction of how would it be to be in"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "a Mars habitat for uh that period of"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "time. And so there's a lot of those"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "different types of research that's been"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "I mean happening for many years and I"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "think we'll continue to kind of gather"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "that data in preparation for a future"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "Mars mission."}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:58", "text": ">> Right. And um so in in 2033 I believe it"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "I read something that said Earth is"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "going to be the closest it's ever been"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "to Mars in like thousands of years."}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:05", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:09", "text": ">> So that would be the optimal window"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "2033. But that seems very aggressive."}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:15", "text": ">> Yeah. No, I I'm I 100% agree. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "I've I've heard 2033 for a really long"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "time."}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:18", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:20", "text": ">> With how much it kind of aligns and just"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "from a trajectory standpoint and how"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "much of a benefit it would be that Mars"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "is closest to Earth and closer than it"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "has been in a really long time. Uh I do"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "agree that I think 2033 is a very"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "ambitious goal up to this point and I"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "think it's you know space travel again"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "it's such a slow process and so you know"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "things anytime something gets like"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "delayed or pushed back"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:44", "text": ">> it just kind of makes it more difficult"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "so"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:48", "text": ">> I guess we'll see you never know but uh"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "I would think that especially from"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "NASA's perspective if they are planning"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "to have some sort of permanent presence"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "or I guess habitat thing by 2028 on the"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "moon and that's going to be some of"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "those initial missions to the moon."}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "Then, you know, a 2033, you know,"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "mission just seems way too close to a"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "lot of these like lunar missions. So,"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:14", "text": ">> yeah. Well, it would be probably better"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "if you could launch from the moon. You"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "know, if we could set up launch pads on"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "the moon or somehow get enough resources"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "there, it would be probably far easier."}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:26", "text": ">> Yeah. So I mean I think that that's been"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "a big idea and that's why it almost"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "shifted. You know for a while I mean"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "what we see today as the Artemis program"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "has been definitely re reworked a lot of"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "times cuz originally after the space"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "shuttle program ended we had what was"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "called the constellation program. Then"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "that got scrapped and then it's kind of"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "slowly merged into what we see as"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "current day Artemis. And I think a lot"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "of the initial ideas was going to be"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "let's go to Mars. 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We know some of the materials there"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "to study, but but really you're not"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "getting a full picture unless you have a"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "direct sample from the planet."}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:23", "text": ">> Mhm. Steve, what was the What was the"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "actual thing they found on that on that"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "Bennu asteroid? It was like a uh"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "Do you remember?"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "Oh, no, but I can find it. It was like a"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "um"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "a protein, maybe, or Yeah, yeah, that"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "one surprised me. 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It"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "It was uh It was really cool. Yeah, I"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "actually so this like astrobiology"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "conference that I go to, we had um like"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "a panel of some people from the project"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "come and like talk about like the the"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "sample and um"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "the challenge of getting in and even"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "some of like the prototyping and"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "figuring out, you know, how to like"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "collect the sample and"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:22", "text": ">> Mhm. um certainly uh very interesting"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "amino acids."}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:27", "text": ">> acids, that's what it was. That was the"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "OSIRIS REx mission. Yes. So, the"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "fundamental building blocks of proteins,"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "the amino acids. So, that's a big deal."}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "Yeah, it certainly is. Um I mean, I"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "think what's what's so crazy to think"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "about is that there's actually such an"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "abundant amount of material in space."}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:43", "text": ">> Yeah. And, you know, even like oxygen."}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "We're like, we need oxygen. [snorts]"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "Well, oxygen's everywhere, right? Like,"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "all All stuff is everywhere. Like, you"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "can find a lot of these things. It's"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "just is it in that perfect environment,"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "perfect storm to then turn into life,"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "you know? And"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "a lot of those materials are there and a"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "lot of the simple building blocks are"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "there out in the universe and they're"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "pretty abundant, but it's just, you"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "know, does it all come together and and"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "actually form in life? Right. And then"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "like when it going back to Mars like"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "when you determine how do you determine"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "like which parts"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "that if people were to go there where"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "they would stay. Like first of all,"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "where do we have the rovers? Is there a"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "specific part we have the rovers at?"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:26", "text": ">> Um so I know for sure Curiosity is in"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "Gale Crater and that was So really a lot"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "of the target sites currently for"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "the rovers have been looking at the"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "potential of water on Mars. So they've"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "been looking at places that look like it"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "used to have water and that's been a lot"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "of target sites is like, you know, that"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "looks like it could have been a river"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "delta. Let's go send a rover there to"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "see if those materials are, you know,"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "similar to something you would see in a"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "river delta here on Earth. And so it's a"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "lot of those like comparison studies. So"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "that's been a big target of what they've"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "been looking at."}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "I mean for looking at life, you know,"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "there certainly are regions that we"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "think"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "um have like I guess a higher"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "probability of like where life could"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "have formed especially in in Mars's past"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "and that's really just looking at, you"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "know,"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "looking back at the conditions that that"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "we think Mars had, where would have like"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "the best best options. So"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:17", "text": ">> said he wanted to build a city in"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "Arcadia."}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "Yeah, there's"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:21", "text": ">> why would that Why would Arcadia be"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "good? 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But it's It's"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "kind of a twofold with human landing."}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "So, as I mentioned with, you know, the"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "potential of like you contaminating the"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "surface, we almost have these like"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "special regions that we think have like"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "higher potential. And it's like, do we"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "send the humans directly there or"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "Yes. You're both right."}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "Arcadia Planitia."}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "Go back to the go to the picture down"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "there so we can see."}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "So, is it like less mountainous or"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "what's so great about this area? Um"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "there certainly is difference."}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:14", "text": ">> Okay, flat What do I go up Scroll up a"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "tiny bit. 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Yeah, there's there's a lot"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "stuff is crazy."}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:27", "text": ">> Yeah, I think uh I'm I'm very much"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "looking forward to to seeing some of"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "this. 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So, this is"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "they're publishing the photo from the"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "actual files that the government"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "dropped,"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:13", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:15", "text": ">> Saying that in 1972 during the Apollo"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "17, that was the last mission, right?"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "So, so yeah, the Apollo 17 mission shows"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "three dots in a triangular formation in"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "the lower right quadrants of the lunar"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "sky that is clearly visible upon"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "magnification of the image. 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And this stuff is"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "like because there's always been that"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "one of the conspiracies about the moon"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "is that they went there and they saw"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "they saw UFOs or aliens or whatever and"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "told him not to come back. And like that"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "was I think they said that Buzz Aldrin"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "said that at one point, but then people"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "thought that they were he was being"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "taken out of context. 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But that's like the the thing"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "about like how this stuff evolves over"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "time is like six years ago you'd get"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "laughed out of a room for talking about"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "UFOs and now like the government's"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "literally saying they're real"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:47", "text": ">> within like 3 week time span."}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:49", "text": ">> So it's like you can't write those you"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "can't write that stuff off anymore. That"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "stuff like legit science now."}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:56", "text": ">> Yeah. I mean, I would say that it's"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "always been interesting to me that, you"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "know, the idea of aliens has ever been"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "almost like a fully laughing matter just"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "because I mean, I think for me, I've"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "always believed that there has to be"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "something somewhere, right? the universe"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "is just so vast. And so it's been"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "interesting to kind of see that"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "progression because, you know, I think"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "the concept of, you know, whether"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "they're here or not or whatever else,"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "sure, but the concept that there ever"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "has been aliens, I think should"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "certainly be a uh something that is"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "pretty agreed upon that the universe is"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "just so big. That would be so crazy to"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "think that we're the only ones out"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "there."}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:32", "text": ">> Yeah, totally. What is this, Steve? Oh,"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "this is Jesse Michaels. Okay, so I don't"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "know if you're familiar with Jesse"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "Michaels. He's my friend who has a"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "podcast and he covers like"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:42", "text": ">> the whole history of NASA. He's like a"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "super nerd historian on all of this"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "stuff. He's freaking incredible."}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:48", "text": ">> And he knows more about like the history"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "of the space program and rocket"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "propulsion than anyone I've ever met."}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "And he goes around the world"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "interviewing these people and he's"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "interviewed like heads of the different"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "NASAs of different countries all over"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "the world. And this guy was a Japanese"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "guy who was a head of one of the"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "Japanese space programs, I think. And"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "he's also a NASA historian. And he was"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "close to Eugene Cernin"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:14", "text": ">> who was on Apollo 17."}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:15", "text": ">> So here we there's headphones. We can"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "listen to this clip."}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:19", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:21", "text": ">> And I think there's captions on us, so"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "you're going to have to read captions."}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:26", "text": ">> Okay. Go ahead. Buzz Aldrin,"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:29", "text": ">> do you think that we went to the moon in"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "1969?"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:36", "text": ">> And then do you think there's anything"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "we don't understand about that story?"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "Did they see UFOs along the way? Because"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:47", "text": ">> he says they saw a UFO. I'm sure."}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:47", "text": ">> Why? Why are you sure?"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:53", "text": ">> Says he knew Captain Eugene Cernin."}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "says, \"Why did Apollo end with Apollo"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "17?\""}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:10", "text": ">> They were planning 18 and 19."}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:20", "text": ">> I want to know the real reason they"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "stopped at 17. His answer was they told"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "me never to come back"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "really"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "that was sent directly to my brain."}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:35", "text": ">> Never come back again. And were any"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "reasons for not coming back again that"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "they cited?"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:42", "text": ">> I beg you save humanity on earth. I was"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "told not to get in their way."}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:45", "text": ">> Why?"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "They told us not to interfere with their"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "activities."}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "So, do you think the extraterrestrials"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "were using the moon as a way to research"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "the Earth?"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "Oh god, he believes the moon was"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "artificially created."}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:27", "text": ">> Anyways, crazy story."}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:28", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:31", "text": ">> From a guy who was friends with Eugene"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "Cernin on Apollo 17,"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:34", "text": ">> you know."}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:38", "text": ">> Yeah. And I think there's also so many"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "um so many factors. I mean um a lot of"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "ending the Apollo program too certainly"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "came to a big funding issue as well."}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "Yeah, cuz I mean that's another big"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "factor that you have to consider with"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "the space industry. It's like why don't"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "we do this and why don't we do that? And"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "I mean even just looking at looking at"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "it financially it's insane. I mean"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "during the Apollo program NASA had 4% of"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "the government budget."}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:00", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:01", "text": ">> And now it has half of 1%. And so it's"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "like,"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:04", "text": ">> you know, even just from a money"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "standpoint, it's like, yeah, if we had"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "4% of the of the of the government"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "budget,"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:13", "text": ">> there probably could be a lot of"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "advancements and a lot more happening um"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "with like deep space. So I think there's"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "there's definitely a balance to it in"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "it, you know, coming from government"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "funding as well."}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:24", "text": ">> Yeah. And also, you know, the context"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "back then during this the whole space"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "race is we were just trying to like flex"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "and prove we could get humans there"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "first. It was more of just like"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "theatrics."}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:34", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:36", "text": ">> Like there was no there's no real"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:38", "text": ">> there's no real logical reason you would"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "want to put humans there. Like it's not"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "safe. It's not efficient. Like it's"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "better to have robots there doing that"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "stuff because they can be more"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "efficient. They can do just as good of a"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "job as a human. I mean, we have hands"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "with fingers on them and like we're"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "we're not great for those environments"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "and it's also like really not safe. So,"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "like why just"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:58", "text": ">> why do it? Why do it again? There's"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "really no reason other than the fact to"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "prove that we could actually do it. It"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "would be much more efficient to do it"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "with robots."}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:06", "text": ">> So, um"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:08", "text": ">> yeah, I mean certainly the Apollo"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "program and and during that Apollo stage"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "was solely coming from the space race"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "standpoint. I mean that was every step"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "of the way from literally"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:21", "text": ">> the first satellite in space was a space"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "race. I mean it was not even just the"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "human aspect of it. It was you know who"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "can send the first satellite, who can"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "send the first animal, who can send the"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "first man, who can send like it was"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "every single stage was a space race and"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "um"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:36", "text": ">> and a lot of it came from like fear too."}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "I mean, if you go back to like Sputnik"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "that uh that Russia had sent up, you"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "know, it was it was a fear, you know,"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "that that you know, all Sputnik did was"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "beep, but we didn't know that. 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Um I know"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "so what from what I've like recently"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "been reading, I do know one of the"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "biggest pushes right now for life is um"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "Acidalia Planitia, I think is the area"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "on Mars that they think, you know, based"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "on kind of the history of Mars would"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "have the most potential. But it's also"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "kind of a twofold with human landing. So"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "as I mentioned with, you know, the"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "potential of like you contaminating the"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "surface, we almost have these like"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "special regions that we think have like"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "higher potential. And it's like do we"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "send the humans directly there or"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:43", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "Yes. You're both right."}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "Arcadia Planitia."}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "Go back to the Go to the picture down"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "there so we can see."}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "So is it like less mountainous or what's"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "so great about this area? Um there"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "certainly is different"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:01", "text": ">> Okay, flat What did it go up? Scroll up"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "a little tiny bit. 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But it also"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "just really depends on like the actual"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "scientific goals of that human mission,"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "you know? And so one human mission I"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "mean similar to like what happened with"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "the moon, they didn't all go land in the"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "same spot, right? And so it could also"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "be a balance there of like, oh, we want"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "to learn about XYZ, let's send them"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "here. We want to go learn about this"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "other thing, let's send things there."}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "And I know that I mean even with like"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "the next missions to the moon, they're"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "currently like scouting potential like"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "landing sites for Artemis 4. Oh, really?"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "I heard they wanted to do it near the"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "poles. Yeah, I I've heard definitely"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "some ideas. I I don't know if it's like"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "fully selected yet, but but yeah."}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "I think it's certainly going to be a bit"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "different than some of the like previous"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "landing sites that we've seen before."}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "Mhm."}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "And then the other thing about Mars is"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "like it's got to be like the amount not"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "only the radiation that you get there"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "has to be really bad,"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "but"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "I'm sure it's going to be a huge lack of"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "like sunlight you're getting. 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So, like"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "it's you know, there's going to I'm sure"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "like"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "the the medical side of this stuff is"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "going to be really difficult to deal"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "with. Yeah, I mean, I will say one of"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "the benefits of looking at Mars and you"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "know, sometimes, you know, when looking"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "at Mars really is the only kind of next"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "place that we can go to as far as like"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "proximity to us. 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I mean, having astronauts"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "live in microgravity for a year"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "certainly something that's been like"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "researched for a while of those those"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "effects to your body. Yeah, aren't there"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "really big like hormonal effects?"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "There's I will say kind of one of the"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "best things that we have was the twin"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "study uh that they did. Um the Kelly"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "twins were one was in space for a year,"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "and I mean, there's there's a lot of"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "things that I think are still being"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "learned about of like the true effects"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "uh of that. 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So,"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "like astronauts will exercise every"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "single day in order to try to stay as"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "strong as possible in those"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "environments."}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "Yeah, one of the twins came back"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "shorter, I think."}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:19", "text": ">> Mhm. Yeah, and I mean, it's just"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "whenever you're"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "you're on Earth, you right, you're"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "constantly fighting gravity. You don't"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "feel like you're working out right now,"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "but you are, you right? Your muscles and"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "your bones are fighting against gravity."}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "And so, anything that you do, they're"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "constantly working. And when you get put"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "in that space environment, they're no"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "longer doing that. And so, it's figuring"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "out ways, you know, how can we exercise"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "and and still use those muscles to, you"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "know, still not maintain what it's like"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "on Earth, but still maintain it a little"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "bit better. Um, a day on Mars is like 24"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "hours and like 30 minutes. So, like the"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "days are a little bit longer, but"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:51", "text": ">> Only 30 minutes longer?"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:52", "text": ">> their actual like days are very similar"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "to Earth. So, there's a lot of"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "similarities."}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:58", "text": ">> a similar circadian rhythm."}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:05:00", "text": ">> Yeah, it's it's really not too big of a"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "leap, which is another kind of benefit"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "with Mars is that, you know, there are"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "differences, of course, in like living"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "on Mars, but it wouldn't necessarily be"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "the biggest extreme that that we could"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "see."}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:12", "text": ">> Yeah, I'd be cur- I mean, it's how many"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "miles How many miles away is Mars? Oh,"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "gosh. Um, How many millions of miles? Is"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "it a million miles? More than a million?"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "See, that's a quick Google search for"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "you, buddy."}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:22", "text": ">> no idea, actually, off the top of my"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "head, the mile the miles of it. I know"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "it on the scale of like football fields,"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "but"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:27", "text": ">> It's a thousand times the moon, right?"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "[laughter]"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "You know it in football fields? Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "like if the if like the moon or if the"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "Earth was a basketball, it'd be like 300"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "football fields. Oh, wow."}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:38", "text": ">> Yeah. That's crazy."}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:39", "text": ">> million. That sounds"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:40", "text": ">> A hundred and 40 million miles."}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:45", "text": ">> Yeah, that's the other thing, there's"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "always like those fluctuations, Yes."}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:50", "text": ">> So,"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "uh, the distance is constantly changing"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "as both planets orbit the sun ranging"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "from a minimum of 33 million miles. Wow,"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "that's a huge difference. Yeah. And"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "maximum 250 million miles. And that's"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "why the trajectories are so important,"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "right? You certainly don't want to to"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "launch when you have 250 million miles"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "to Or"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:12", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:13", "text": ">> to go across. So, um Yeah, that would"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "suck."}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:16", "text": ">> I think that's almost one of the"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "craziest things about the space industry"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "as a whole is like people not grasping"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "really how far things are. I mean, even"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "with the moon, right? You know, you look"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "up at the night sky and you're like,"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "\"The moon's right there.\" But it takes,"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "you know, multiple days to get to the"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "moon. Even just going um somewhere like"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "our closest possible place to go is"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "still far away. Yeah, totally. And then"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "what about like the time dilation stuff?"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "Like in Interstellar when they're at"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "that planet and like every minute here"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "is 10 years on Earth."}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:43", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah, I mean, that would certainly"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "That would certainly be a case for like"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "deeper space travel."}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:50", "text": ">> So, yeah. Within like the scale that"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "we're traveling um to like the moon and"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "Mars and that sort of thing, I would"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "like consider a lot of those things more"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "irrelevant."}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "Yeah. That's more more like in a"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "different star system."}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:02", "text": ">> Right. Like if you're going um like"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "outside of our solar system, I think it"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "would be like something to to consider."}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "But like within our solar system,"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "um"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:09", "text": ">> [clears throat]"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:10", "text": ">> yeah, I wouldn't I wouldn't consider it"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "like a big issue. And then like"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "terraforming Mars, do we have to"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "detonate nukes on the on the poles or do"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "you do like can you put like some big"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "mirrors in orbit to like heat it up or"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "like"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:23", "text": ">> Yeah, you know, the idea of terraforming"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "has been like talked about for so long"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "and it really is like a question of, you"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "know, are all of these ideas even"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "possible? But yeah, I mean, it's it's"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "crazy cuz like yeah, probably the best"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "solution to it would be to nuke the"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "whole planet, which is just insane. Like"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "why is that even like a conversation?"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "Um but yeah, that would probably be like"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "your your"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "main way of being able to actually heat"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "up an entire planet. Cuz again, you"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "know, the scale that you're talking"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "about and terraforming an entire planet."}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "I mean, Mars is smaller than Earth, but"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "it's still a big planet, you know, and"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "to to fully change the the entire"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "dynamic of the planet. I mean, that is"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "just like such a challenge."}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "And of course, you know, then it becomes"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "like is that even something that we want"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "to be doing? Like who who's to say that"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "we can just go and and go crazy and"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "start doing stuff like that. And so"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:16", "text": ">> the aliens are getting mad that we have"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "nuclear weapons on Earth. Imagine what"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "they're going to do when we start nuking"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "Mars. Yeah, I certainly"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:25", "text": ">> get a full invasion. Yeah, I certainly"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "I don't know if if that route to to"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "terraforming is is really a realistic"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "approach and you know, I think that"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "that's a challenge with even the"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "conversation of terraforming, you know,"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "even if you were to choose that endeavor"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "and and humans were to do that, it would"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "still take, you know, so long to like"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "for everything to slowly come back to"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "like a normal state and it's such a such"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "a long long process and like you know"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "fully transforming a planet into"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "something else and you know, then you'd"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "have like even more radiation on the"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "planet. I mean, it would sounds just"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "like potentially a disaster. So"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:02", "text": ">> have any better ideas?"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "Honestly,"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "I don't think so. I"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "At the moment, I think"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "like the full idea of terraforming is so"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "theoretical right now that yeah, I think"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "if there someone were to come up with a"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "better idea. I think any other idea"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "would be would be better. So we'll we'll"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "see."}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:21", "text": ">> have to figure out a way to melt the"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "ice, right? Yeah, I mean, the biggest"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "yeah, the biggest case is going to be,"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "you know, warming up the planet. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "that's like you're going your task"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "number one is going to be warming up the"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "planet. A big goal is you'd want to"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "start forming like a thicker atmosphere,"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "right? Cuz Mars's atmosphere is so thin"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "and so let's say you went to Mars right"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "now and you just started pumping you had"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "all these like things pumping oxygen or"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "whatever. That oxygen is just going to"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "leave the planet. You're not actually"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "like it's not insulated in a way to kind"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "of hold a lot of those gases in. And so"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "the big goal is going to be, you know,"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "you're going to need like an active"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "magnetosphere, you're going to need like"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "an atmosphere that's really holding a"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "lot of that stuff in to start forming a"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "planet. And that's those are are the"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "challenges. And I mean again, even just"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "like the timeline of terraforming, um"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "even with crazy ideas, it's just such a"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "long period of time. 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Um, yeah, it"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "was a company, uh, XAG, uh, that"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "manufactures these big agricultural"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "drones. They can carry something like 40"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "gallons of liquid on them and disperse"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "them within like eight or nine minutes"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "or something like this, so they can"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "aerosolize it. And you There's a"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "legitimate use of this. You'd use it to"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "spray like pesticides on crops or"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "whatever. And And this is becoming"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "increasingly common."}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:42", "text": ">> [clears throat]"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:45", "text": ">> So, they were sitting at a warehouse in"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "New Jersey, um, a bunch of these drones."}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:49", "text": ">> When was this? This is like a month and"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "a half ago that they were stolen. Okay."}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "Um,"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "a driver So, it's a it's like a holding"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "warehouse, you know, New Jersey. Um,"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "people drop off pallets and then the"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "buyer sends a driver or transportation"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "transporter to come and pick it up and,"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "you know,"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "bill of lading and all that stuff."}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:08", "text": ">> Mhm. So,"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "box truck pulls up to pick up these"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "drones. The guy has paperwork, he has a"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "driver's license, everything, the bill"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "of lading, everything looks totally"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "legit. 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They're like, \"Oh, shit.\""}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "Um, and it turned out that the guy used"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "a fake driver's license. The Department"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "of Transportation number on the side of"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "the truck was fake."}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "The license plates were either fake or"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "stolen."}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "And they Someone"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "also hacked into the computer system to"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "make it look like, you know, this was a"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "legit driver. There was some sort of"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "digital manipulation, also."}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:00", "text": ">> Oh, Jesus."}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:01", "text": ">> pretty sophisticated in in how this uh"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "uh happened. You know, they're they're"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "called transit heists."}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:06", "text": ">> Mhm. Um"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "and now these drones are in the wind."}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "And the FBI gets involved."}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:14", "text": ">> drones, each of them? I I I don't know"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "how much they cost, but they're pretty"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "robust."}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:17", "text": ">> Yeah. I thought I thought it said it was"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "like something like 50 or 60,000."}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:19", "text": ">> Uh"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "so,"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "uh drones like that, you know, could be"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "used for nefarious purposes if you load"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "them full of poison, uh some sort of"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "chemical or biological agent,"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:33", "text": ">> Mhm. uh and spray them over a civilian"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "population."}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:39", "text": ">> at that, bro. Yeah. That's huge."}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "It's a unit."}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "That's Jesus. Good lord. And okay, has"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "that huge tank to hold the chemicals"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "right underneath it. So, the FBI is"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "[ __ ] bricks looking for these"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "things."}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:52", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:54", "text": ">> They get uh the ATF even gets involved"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "um in case, you know, they're they're"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "they're to track fertilizer, Mhm."}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:02:59", "text": ">> because they're afraid they might put"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "conventional bombs on these. This is"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "something that law enforcement's been"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "looking at for a while is like, you"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "know, the use of drones for terrorism"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "and even like assassination. You know,"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "if you think about that like Luigi dude"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "that killed the healthcare CEO, like if"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "somebody wanted to do that, you'd send"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "like two drones and like one would blow"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "the glass out in the building and then"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "the second drone would go into the"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "office and kill the guy."}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:23", "text": ">> So, the the the police are looking at"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "things like that a lot now."}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "they're doing this whole fire drill"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "looking for the drone or drones. Um"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "about a month after they were stolen, I"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "published that article with uh with"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "Shawn on the high side."}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "And"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "that got picked up by I don't know,"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "probably like a dozen different media"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "outlets picked up on it, including some"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "big ones. Like it was on the New York"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "Post and elsewhere."}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "and so a couple days later,"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "the drones were recovered. They were"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "found just laying in a warehouse."}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:00", "text": ">> Oh, really? A different warehouse in New"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "Jersey. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "And my"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "another a person I know told me"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "if somebody just comes and dumps like"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "pallets"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "in a warehouse, like everything's"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "tracked digitally nowadays. If there's"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "like something that's not supposed to be"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "there, like that's not going to go"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "undiscovered for more than a few hours."}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "So the idea that it was sitting there"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "for weeks and nobody noticed is like"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "ridiculous."}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "Um but the thought I I have heard a"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "little update to this story."}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "The FBI has some thought that because we"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "published this story, it spooked whoever"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "stole it and they dumped it and ran."}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "Mhm."}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "I don't know though."}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "I mean the the most scary idea is that"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "it was some sort of like Iranian That's"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "what the fear was. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:47", "text": ">> Yeah. That was going to conduct some"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "sort of a terrorist attack. But it was"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "so sophisticated, right? Like how would"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "they do something so damn sophisticated"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "like that?"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "You know, with the scrubbing of the or"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "the having the fake DOT numbers, the"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "driver's license. Well, transit heists"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:02", "text": ">> And they would have to almost be in"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "communication with the people who were"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "supposed to pick it up to know exactly"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "when they were coming. I I I have been"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "told the FBI is looking at that as well."}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "That there's like an insider threat."}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "Right. Or could just be, you know, it"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "could just be as simple as like a"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "just a ploy to make money, you know, to"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "fake that they were stolen, maybe"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "getting an insurance claim on it or"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "something, who knows."}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:28", "text": ">> Oh, oh I I don't want to accuse uh"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "the company of that. Um I I don't have"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "any evidence of that, but"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:33", "text": ">> But I mean, companies do do that [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "Like this has happened before."}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:38", "text": ">> it. Um and also, you know, the it's it's"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "New Jersey. Things have been falling off"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "the back of trucks for a very long time."}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "Our Italian-American community may or"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "may not have been involved in those uh"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "activities in the past. Right. Right."}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "Yeah, the drones Ukraine is very good at"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "drones, allegedly. Those videos that are"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "coming out here"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:57", "text": ">> factually."}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:05:59", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:01", "text": ">> The the stuff that they've been doing"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "with the drones, like the videos that"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "I've been seeing that that that are"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "[ __ ] horrific."}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "Of how they've been using those drones"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "to blow [ __ ] up and"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "um uh and there was also something that"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "recently came out of"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:14", "text": ">> [snorts]"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:16", "text": ">> uh"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "they're selling their technology to us"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "now with their drone technology."}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "Probably their expertise or more than"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "their technology, yeah."}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:24", "text": ">> Um"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "you know, I don't follow the Ukraine war"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "like day-to-day super carefully, um but"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "you know, something you get might be"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "interested in."}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "Uh I heard recently that we are sending"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "J SOC guys to Ukraine."}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "And what they're doing over there was"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "described to me as playing hide-and-seek"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "with robots."}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "So basically, what they've been doing"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "over there at the tactical level Mhm. is"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "like kind of like sending out decoys"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "that are going to draw in the Russian"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "drones."}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "And then when they draw them in, they'll"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "disable them or shoot them down or"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "whatever they're going to do. Oh,"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "really?"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:01", "text": ">> Yeah. And meanwhile, the Ukrainians have"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "their drone operators that are out there"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "looking for the Russian drone operators."}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "So for the Ukrainians are looking for"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "the Russian drone pilots. Ah."}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:13", "text": ">> While the J SOC guys are like disabling"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "the drones themselves. Oh, interesting."}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "They're trying to lure them out."}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:19", "text": ">> yeah, it's basically like a drone"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "ambush. Wow. That's insane, man."}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "Yeah, I that you don't hear anything"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "about that that conflict anymore. Like"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "it doesn't seem like it's a priority. Um"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "yeah, I I mean, I just I I think a lot"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "of that is because of um"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "this administration just"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "in the headlines every single day with"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "some"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:38", "text": ">> some new thing. Yeah, the the war in"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "Ukraine, unfortunately, has kind of"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "maybe taken a backseat. I I was recently"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "at a um"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "an awards dinner um for journalists and"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "a few of our CIA stories were nominated"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "in one of the categories. But I mean the"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "thing I noticed was that"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "across the board and all of the"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "categories"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "immigration stories played a huge focus"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "on the you know which not just the ones"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "that were nominated but also won. So I"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "mean that's just to give an idea of like"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "I think where people's heads are at. I"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "think that immigration stuff is pretty"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "serious. Maybe there was like one story"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "out of Ukraine that won an award, you"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "know. Immigration stories are getting"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "the most attention. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "Like ICE and detention facilities and"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "all that kind of stuff. 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[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "But I wonder like how many"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "knocks do we have inside of Iran?"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:14", "text": ">> So this is a a separate story that um"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "Sean and I just published with uh our"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "friend colleague Zack Dorfman"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "about nonofficial cover people. And"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "you're talking about Jim Lawler. He"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "knows way more about Iran than I"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:25", "text": ">> He's an Iran expert. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:27", "text": ">> He knows way more than I do about Iran."}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "So yeah, you should ask him. I read your"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "article uh about the uh hard knocks this"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "morning. It's amazing."}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:38", "text": ">> So, the the CIA does not have a lot of"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "knocks. I'll just say that. Um Zack"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "Dorfman wrote a book about the CIA knock"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "program,"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:47", "text": ">> which is forthcoming. I have nothing"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "further to say about it. You can have"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "Zach on here if you want in when the"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "book is published and"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:52", "text": ">> okay,"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:55", "text": ">> he's going to have some pretty cool"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "stories coming out of that. Um but as he"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "was researching that book, he came"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "across um some information also about"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "the special operations J-C uh knock"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "program and he started telling me about"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "what he had and I was like huh okay. Um"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "and he's like yeah I this doesn't fit"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "into my book so maybe we can turn it"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "into an article."}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:18", "text": ">> I was like okay well let me see what I"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "can find out. And fairly quickly I I"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "pulled up, you know, four I think four"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "different sources who had strong"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "firsthand knowledge about about this"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "subject."}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:31", "text": ">> Uh I guess what, you know, for the"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "listeners, we should point out what a"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "knock is."}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:35", "text": ">> What is a knock and why why why are they"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "important?"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:39", "text": ">> So there's two types of cover. There's"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "official cover and nonofficial cover."}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "Official cover is uh when you are an"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "intelligence operative of some sort, but"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "you are being put under credentials as a"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "state department person or um well I"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "mean whatever the case may be. You could"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "even be like say you're a Delta Force"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "commando that's trained to be a spy."}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:04", "text": ">> They could put you in a regular army"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "infantry unit"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:07", "text": ">> and that would be official cover."}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:09", "text": ">> Right. You're still presenting yourself"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "as an American soldier. Yes,"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:13", "text": ">> this happened. I I remember stories"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "about uh Delta Force guys in the Balkans"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "doing this where they would be like, you"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "know, the general's PSD or they would be"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "like a liaison officer to the Germans,"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "but really they're there for an"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "intelligence operation."}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:26", "text": ">> Uh that kind of stuff happens all the"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "time."}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "And nonofficial cover is when you're"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "being placed under a commercial cover,"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "like you're working for a company, um,"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "Fortune 500 company, um, maybe you're"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "working in construction or mining or"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "logistics or whatever is going to get"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "you"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:44", "text": ">> where you need to go."}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:47", "text": ">> Um, the big difference, I mean, there"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "are a couple of big differences. Um,"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "it's a lot harder to put somebody under"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "nonofficial cover, under a plausible"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "cover."}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "um when you're taking and one of the"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "things in in our article that comes out"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "of it is it's really hard to take"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "somebody who was a SEAL or a ranger or"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "whoever and make them a nonofficial"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "cover guy because their entire life is"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "about working in a team."}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:10", "text": ">> Right."}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:12", "text": ">> Right. And now they're having to be a"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "lone wolf, which sounds sexy on paper."}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:16", "text": ">> Civilian not attached to any government."}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:18", "text": ">> Sounds cool on paper, doesn't it? But"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "the reality is that it's a very lonely"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "life and high stress, too. uh you know"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "you're assuming a lot of risk because"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "another big difference here is that if"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "you're under official cover and you get"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "arrested in Russia even uh you will be"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "dubbed persona nongrada by the Russian"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "government"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:35", "text": ">> and deported"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:37", "text": ">> right"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:38", "text": ">> you're sent home you know maybe you get"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "a black eye when they pull you off the"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "street but you're going home right if"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "you're nonofficial cover and you're in a"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "country like Russia or Iran especially"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "dude you're done"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:50", "text": ">> you're dead or you're in jail"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:54", "text": ">> you're you're dead You dead."}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:58", "text": ">> Oh yeah, you are [ __ ] Capital [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:04:01", "text": ">> So, let me ask you this."}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "Jonathan Pard, what was his What would"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "you classify him as?"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:05", "text": ">> The Israeli spy?"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:06", "text": ">> Yeah, I would classify him as a foreign"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "intelligence asset."}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:11", "text": ">> So, he wasn't a knock."}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:12", "text": ">> I I don't believe so. No. Um for like"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "for the Israelis, you mean?"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:16", "text": ">> Right."}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:18", "text": ">> I I if he No, I don't I don't I'm not"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "totally familiar with his case, but I"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "don't believe he he was. No, I think he"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "was"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:24", "text": ">> a knock is somebody So basically if"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "you're a knock and you get caught,"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:27", "text": ">> the CIA is going to deny you 100%."}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:28", "text": ">> 100%. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:29", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:31", "text": ">> Yeah. The US government's going to say,"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "\"We have no knowledge.\""}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:36", "text": ">> Got it."}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "And"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "can a knock also be like an agent, like"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "a recruit?"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "Um, so a knock is a and let's"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:50", "text": ">> or is this like a formally trained"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "somebody who's formally trained like at"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "in America?"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:54", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:56", "text": ">> Right. To do and then sent over"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "somewhere. So they are actual um they"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "are going to be recruited either into"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "the CIA or into the military"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:06", "text": ">> and then based on a lot of times it's"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "based on things like ethnicity, language"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "ability, um having multiple passports,"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "etc. like somebody"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:14", "text": ">> incredible backstory, no holes in your"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "history,"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:17", "text": ">> something that we can parlay right into"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "this"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:20", "text": ">> because this would be way easier just to"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "recruit somebody in that country, right?"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:25", "text": ">> Uh and we do that. that's recruiting a"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "foreign intelligence asset."}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:28", "text": ">> But in this case, you're kind you're"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "putting them through that extensive"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "training and then sending them overseas"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "for a period of time to collect"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "intelligence or set up logistics or"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "whatever the case may be."}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:40", "text": ">> Um"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "so yeah, we we wrote this pretty long"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "article about the Jac program and and"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "you know, some of the successes they've"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "had and also some of the failures. Um,"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "you know, we talk about um the army"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "putting knocks into Iran in the past"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "during the war and terror years um"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "successfully."}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:00", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:01", "text": ">> Um but also how this program both the"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "CIA side and the military side are"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "fraught with problems also. Um one of"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "the big ones is like have you heard the"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "term ubiquitous technical surveillance?"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:11", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:14", "text": ">> UTS. So UTS"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:18", "text": ">> Oh, was this like the DNA? It"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:21", "text": ">> could be that. Yes. um biometrics, DNA,"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "surveillance cameras"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "that are connected up to AI that's"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "looking for you that every time you go"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "through the airport, they're taking your"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "picture, they're taking your"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "fingerprints."}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:32", "text": ">> Even small airports in in smaller"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "countries now, I mean, everyone's kind"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "of doing it."}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:38", "text": ">> And that makes it more and more"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "difficult for you to do anything sneaky."}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "Um, you know, it's even if you're"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "traveling under a false passport, it's"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "like, okay, but your fingerprints don't"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "change."}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:49", "text": ">> Uh, so it becomes hard thing in Men in"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "Black where they put your fingers on"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "that and burn them off."}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:54", "text": ">> Burns them off."}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:57", "text": ">> Yeah. Um, well, I mean, there's a couple"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "of different workarounds. There have"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "been workarounds in the past. you would"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "just fly the person to a country that"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "they don't have biometrics in the"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "airport, have them buy or rent a car,"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "drive to the third country,"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:11", "text": ">> you know, rather than fly directly in"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "there, things like that. Um,"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "but it's becoming harder and harder"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "because the technology is ubiquitous,"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "because it's everywhere. Um, because you"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "have these, you know, large language"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "models that are sifting through data and"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "they're going to pull your identity off"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "the internet. um it's super difficult"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "and right now um I think especially the"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "military looks at it is like when we put"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "the person through all this training"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "that they're like a one and done or a"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "two and done so they'll do like one or"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "two missions and then they're going back"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "to their normal job because because of"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "this because their their identities are"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "going to get burned."}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:51", "text": ">> Yeah. I imagine there's some countries"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "that are way harder than others like how"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "do you do this in China where there's"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "like literally cameras that track your"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "gate everywhere. You don't think I would"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "blend in in China?"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:04", "text": ">> Uh yeah. Yeah. So there's there's that"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "that there's um cultural differences,"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "you know, make it difficult for us. Um"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "and but you're correct about the the"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "technological aspect of it, too."}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:13", "text": ">> And I wasn't even aware they could do"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "that with DNA. I didn't know they were"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "doing DNA tracking."}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:22", "text": ">> So I mean, yes, DNA sniffers, that's a"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "thing. Um, and we we have all these"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "problems with our data also not being"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "secured, which plays into it. The uh"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "Office of Personal Management hack, the"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "Chinese got all of the top secret um"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "security clearance applications from the"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "United States."}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:38", "text": ">> Really?"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:41", "text": ">> Yeah. So, one of those guys, you try to"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "put them under non-official cover, send"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "them to a country like China, what's"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "going to what's going to happen?"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:48", "text": ">> [ __ ] When did that happen?"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:50", "text": ">> That happened a while ago. That that was"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "like 10 12 years ago maybe."}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:55", "text": ">> Oh wow."}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:57", "text": ">> Um so UTS is making it increasingly"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "difficult for these guys to do their job"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "and we're at sort of a um an inflection"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "point I think where the intelligence"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "community is having to"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:10", "text": ">> rethink about this and rethink about how"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "we use Knox. And I mean, one one"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "proposal I've heard or one thing, you"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "know, that we might do in the future is"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "like you kind of pointed out, recruiting"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "foreigners. Like recruiting like we're"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "going to recruit this guy in Morocco."}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:24", "text": ">> Uhhuh."}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:25", "text": ">> Maybe we bring him back to the United"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "States. Maybe we just train him in his"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "home country, give him all the training"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "he needs, and now he's going to be our"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "guy. Now he doesn't need a like an"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "elaborate fake back stopped cover"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "because he can just be himself."}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:38", "text": ">> Exactly."}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:41", "text": ">> Right. right?"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:43", "text": ">> Um, that's potentially an option. If you"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "enjoy watching our show on Spotify or"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "YouTube and you want to be more"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "involved, I encourage you to please come"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "check out our Patreon community. 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[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "Connor said that, you know, yesterday"}, {"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "was a bad day for uh going to space, but"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "it was a good day for explosions. Bezos"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:13", "text": ">> is doing his thing with Blue Origin. And"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "so everybody's watching this clip and"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "what I I thought it's, you know, half"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "the time nowadays when you see stuff"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "when you're scrolling like why why is"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "this clip showing up everywhere? You're"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "like, it's just AI. But no, this is what"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "happened yesterday. This is the Blue"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "Origin. Look at this explosion."}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:27", "text": ">> Oh my god."}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:29", "text": ">> It is good to look. It's so awesome to"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "look at though, Pat. Come on."}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:31", "text": ">> Wow. That's someone messes up his carbon"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "foot."}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:33", "text": ">> We're brea Well, we're breathing all"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "that. By the way,"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:36", "text": ">> no matter how far you are, like if I"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "carbon credit, if you're looking, you"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "felt that. Oh, yeah."}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:40", "text": ">> You felt that. Okay. So, go. Where's Al"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "Gore?"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:45", "text": ">> Go to this with Jeff Bezos. Jeff Bezos"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "tweeted about it. If you want to go to"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "it, Jeff Bezos, he's been on uh trending"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "stories the last week quite a lot, but"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "he tweeted about it to give an update."}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "Uh uh this is uh go a little bit lower."}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "All personnel are accounted for and"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "safe. I love the first."}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:02", "text": ">> It's too early to know the root cause,"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "but we're already working to find it."}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "Very rough day, but we'll rebuild"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "whatever needs to rebuilding and get"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "back to flying. It's worth it. Do me a"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "favor. Open it up with SP with There you"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "go. And look who comments at the top."}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "Okay. Look who comments at the top."}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:18", "text": ">> Aastraasper."}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "What does that mean?"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:23", "text": ">> Well, Rob's Twitter's Latin is Rob likes"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "it Latin."}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:26", "text": ">> So, through hardship,"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:28", "text": ">> hardships to the stars. That's amazing."}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "I love"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:33", "text": ">> I love that instead of taking that"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "opportunity to you know call him out or"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "do any of that stuff he gives him a"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "compliment"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:40", "text": ">> and you know I said to him you guys will"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "figure it out all the best and uh it it"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "it was it was interesting seeing it's a"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "very different difficult business to get"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "into Tom when you see the explosion and"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "what happened what what stories do you"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "know about it what facts do you have"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "about what happened there"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:55", "text": ">> well you know what it's a test firing"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "and if you go back in time and you'll"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "find the Apollo mission"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "There were test firings on the"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "launchpad, not Apollo, but with the"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "early space program. We we had missiles"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "and then we put, you know, chimpanzeee"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "into space. Then we had Mercury, Gemini,"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "Apollo. We went in order. That's exactly"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "what Elon Musk went through. And Elon"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "Musk has had test firings. He's had a"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "rocket that launched a short distance."}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "And it goes, guess what? One of the"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "perfect things he said was one of his"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "first Elon has tweeted a couple things"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "on this. All of them are understanding"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "and compassionate about the"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "entrepreneur. It was a test firing that"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "went went badly. And you know what? I"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "love Bezos's first comment. All people"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "are accounted for and safe. In other"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "words, all the scientists, everybody,"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "we're way over here. Kaboom. Whoops. All"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "right. Well, let's go back and let's"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "once the fire goes out, let's see if we"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "can figure out in the wreckage of, you"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "know, what went wrong and get it. But"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "every space program has this. Every has"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "it. This is this is trial and error. You"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "think AB testing on social media ads"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:00", "text": ">> how big it is in a plane that's 50 miles"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "away."}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:05", "text": ">> Stop it. 50 miles. Imagine you're on a"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "plane. You're like, \"Oh my god, it's the"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "end of the world.\" And you don't know"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "what the hell is going on. It's a nuke."}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "No. Pat. Pat, think about it. GO. DO IT"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "AGAIN, ROB."}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:13", "text": ">> YEAH."}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:15", "text": ">> Go back again from from the top."}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:17", "text": ">> Could you imagine? You're coming in for"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "landing. Hey everybody. Uh, welcome to"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "Look to the left and uh Oh my god,"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "that's a nuclear weapon."}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "Go back to the other one, bro. Show the"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "one that I sent you, Pat. Could you"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "imagine, guys, before you play it?"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "You're at a bar. You're drinking. You"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "have no idea that there's even a rocket"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "launch test, whatever. And look at this,"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "Pat. Could you imagine that? It looks"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "like a nuke."}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:37", "text": ">> By the way, you know how much total"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "damage was done in dollars?"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:38", "text": ">> How much?"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:40", "text": ">> Dollars."}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:42", "text": ">> A taxpayer NASA"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:44", "text": ">> aerospace analysts are saying the"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "alleged"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:50", "text": ">> cost damage. New Glenn rocket"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "destroyed$150 to $300 million. Launchpad"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "repairs, the LC36,"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "$50 to $200 million. Testing equipment,"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "ground systems, 10 to$100 million."}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "Launch delays, investigation, loss"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "revenue, tens to hundreds of millions of"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "dollars. Many industry observers"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:09", "text": ">> are saying at the low-end minimum, it's"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "a quarter of a billion dollars, upwards"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "of a billion dollars of loss to what"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "happened yesterday."}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:16", "text": ">> Stick to Amazon. Let Elon do it. Just"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "let Elon do it. We're good."}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:19", "text": ">> There's another part to it. But what was"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "learned? There's going to be a bunch"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "that was learned. This is the"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "entrepreneurial process."}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:27", "text": ">> Oh, for sure. Listen, for sure. Look,"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:29", "text": ">> you know, uh uh uh for us yesterday, uh"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "you know, I I we have things that you're"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "going to make mistakes with as an"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "operator, no matter what company and"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "things that you do, but you have to"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "learn from it. You have to move on from"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "it. You have to kind of see what"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "adjustments you have to make. Man up,"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "take the responsibility, and move on."}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "Make it better. And for me, there's no"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "way you're worth a few hundred billion"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "dollars because you got everything"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "right. Mhm."}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:48", "text": ">> You're worth a few hundred billion"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "dollars because you did a lot of things"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "that went wrong and you learned from it"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "and you adjusted while you're in the"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "spotlight. Everybody bashing you,"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "calling you this and this and that and"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "he has gotten to this point. So I I I'm"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "looking forward to the recovery from"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "this to see what they do next. And"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "knowing Bezos, you know, you you're"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "going to see the next story and I think"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:10", "text": ">> the day it happens where they have a"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "successful launch, you know who I think"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "is going to retweet the successful"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "launch? I think Elon Musk will retweet"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "the successful launch and give him a"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "shout out. Adam,"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:20", "text": ">> I I fully agree with you. I'll just um"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "give it a little um a little spice to"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "it. I think they're actually becoming uh"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "more aligned than ever because I said on"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "the lad podcast, I think that you know"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "the enemy of the enemy, my friend, I"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "think they're realizing what this"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "socialist, Marxist, communist, woke"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "agenda is taking over. They see what's"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "going on in New York. They see what's"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "going on in California and they're"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "realizing we're in this thing together,"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "guys. And so Blue Origin rocket blows up"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "horribly. And let me get this straight."}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "Elon Musk, competitor to Jeff Bezos,"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "tweets, didn't he say, \"Rockets are"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "tough.\" And then"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:55", "text": ">> the future isn't to the moon. Basically,"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "here's here's where I'm going with this."}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "You've talked about this before. A"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "public loss like this, Pat, I don't"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "think we understand this. Like for"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "someone like Jeff Bezos, okay, think"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "about the the the most public loss"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "you've ever had, whoever you are"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "watching this right now. You lost the"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "Super Bowl. You lost a big game. This"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "guy's rocket blew up and lost how many"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "hundred million dollars 52 billion"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:22", "text": ">> and everyone's talking about it and your"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "chief competitor is like, \"Hey man,"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "sorry about that. You know, dust it off."}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "Get back out there. Go invest the money"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "that they want you to that they want to"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "tax and go build another racket. go"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "racket. Rock it. So, it like Tom said,"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "you don't win or lose. You win and or"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "learn. And I think he'll he'll learn"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "from this and get better. And shout out"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "to the entrepreneurs who are doing stuff"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "like this. And I just I'll I'll end with"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "this. The the money that you're not"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "taxing Mam Donnie or Bezos or whoever,"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "he going to go forward to buy a new"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "rocket because it cost $100 million. Are"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "you going to pay for that? Because he"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "will."}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:59", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. It's a good point. There's a"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "big game coming up around the corner. I"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "think nine of them are going to be in"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "Dallas. We were at a hotel yesterday."}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "Everything was about the the the world"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "soccer tournament that's coming out that"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "everybody's going to be watching. You"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "know, Neymar, Messi, yesterday they"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "announced Messi's going into a six World"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "Cup. I don't know if you saw that. It's"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "going to be crazy. It's going to be a"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "big tournament that they're having."}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:20", "text": ">> And so, while you're going through that,"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "depending on the countries you're from,"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "we have some special gear that is"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "limited. There's not a big supply of"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "them. And we chose the countries based"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "on who watches the content the most and"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "it has the future looks bright with the"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "country's flag. So having said that,"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "watch this video and then I'll tell you"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "what future looks bright gear we have"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "here for you. Go ahead Rob."}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "down"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "the goal with a"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "down"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "Mexico."}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:06", "text": ">> By the way, that's Iran with the old"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "plan."}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:13", "text": ">> Nice. The shi flag of Muhammad Sha"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "FRANCE"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "and then we got a few other ones."}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:35", "text": ">> Who is this? This is Colombia."}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:38", "text": ">> Colia."}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "Boom."}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "sick. These things look and Argentina,"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:45", "text": ">> you know, people are dancing at home"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "right now in the car."}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:49", "text": ">> So, remember, it's not a big supply. If"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "you're watching this, you want to get"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "the shirt combination. This is the US"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "hat that we have with the US flag on the"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "lid with the soccer ball inside of it."}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "These things look absolutely insane. And"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "by the way, we didn't get a big supply"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "of them. Some of them, it's only 50."}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "like the Iran one that we have with the"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "Shahan Shai flag on the bottom of it."}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "It's only 50. So if some of you guys are"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "going to the game and you kind of want"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "to wear the hat cuz they're saying you"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "cannot wear the hat, Vinnie, I don't"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "know if I gave it to you or not."}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:16", "text": ">> No, I don't have that."}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:18", "text": ">> Do you have the Iran hat?"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:19", "text": ">> One more. I think it's the one"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:20", "text": ">> this one here."}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:23", "text": ">> I don't know which one it is. One of"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "these we have here. It looks ridiculous"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "the the way. There you go. Look at this"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:29", "text": ">> on the bottom of the lid right there. I"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "love the fact that you have it. So"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:33", "text": ">> Iran's it's only 50 of them. So first"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "come, first serve. If somebody buys 50,"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "it's literally going to say sold out."}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "And then you have all the other"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "countries and US. And then if you want"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "to combine it with the shirts, Rob, if"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "you want to go a little bit lower, it'll"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "go to Click on the Argentina one. View"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "all"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "go all the way to the top, Rob. Right"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "there, you have all of them together."}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "Shirts, hats, go a little bit lower. So"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "buy the hats with the shirts combined."}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "Future looks bright. This is not going"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "to last a long time. Represent your"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "country while you're representing the"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "future. looks bright. If you enjoyed"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "this video, you want to watch more"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "videos like this, click here. And if you"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "want to watch the entire podcast, click"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "here."}]

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Check out the link below and see"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "how we can help you."}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "First up, 1.4 trillion in capex"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "buildouts by the nation's utilities to"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "happen by 2030. And by the way, what's"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "with the 27%. Guess what? It's up 27%"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "from the budget estimates those"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "utilities made for buildouts last year."}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "Why is that? Because you see the 355"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "billion here. Look at this. 355 billion"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "is what the big hyperscalers and AI data"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "center owners are spending this year on"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "their data centers and they need power."}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "So the forecast build out for power is"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "big. Take a look at this. The Apollo"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "program that was put a man on the moon."}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "They spent this and all these dollars"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "have been translated to current dollars"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "so we can compare each one. Here's the"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "big five AI capex of this year. 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Wait, wait,"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "wait, wait, wait. I'm trying to get"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "reelected this year. I'll give you that"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "tax cut. Guess what? Here it comes. Now,"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "you take and look at the reality. On a"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "national average basis, for every $13"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "million it's spent building a data"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "center, one permanent job. That's it. So"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "the construction is 10 to one on"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "permanent jobs to construction. And if"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "we only look in Virginia, the hot bed of"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "data centers is in North Virginia. If we"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "only look there, the state government in"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "tax cuts or benefits in exchange for"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "build your data center. Here they have"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "given away $1.6 $6 billion in tax"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "dollars that won't come to the Virginia"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "government because these were tax cuts"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "given to the data center builders in"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "exchange for building there because oh"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "we're going to make jobs. The truth is"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "coming out and that these tax cuts"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "should not have been given in this way."}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "The data center owner operators were"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "going to find the land probably build it"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "there anyway. And the economic"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "development councils that work for"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "America's governors were thinking, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "we got to attract it. It's competitive."}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "We don't do it here. New Jersey will"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "give it to them.\" Well, now we're"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "finding out that that's not the case."}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "And take a look. If you just look at the"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "meta data center, the TMC chip plant,"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "and the Virginia data cent's average,"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "you see what they have given up in"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "revenue just to get them there. And"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "guess what? We're only talking one job"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "for every $13 million spent. I think"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "that's a bad deal."}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "Next up, energy is estimated to be"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "between 6.7 and 12% on a national basis"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "by 2028. That's based on the energy"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "we're creating. Now, take a look at"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "this. The blue line represents the base"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "projection of what percent of energy"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "will be consumed by data centers and"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "data storage hubs, mostly data centers"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "where AI and other things are running."}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "Take a look at this line. Now remember,"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "there's also a Department of Energy"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "high-end projection. So the Department"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "of Energy is saying things could be even"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "worse. So they really don't know. They"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "think by 2028, that's a year and a half"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "from now, a year and a half. We're"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "sitting here in May of 2026, you're"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "looking at between six, that's actually"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "6.7 to 12% with the national average run"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "rate being approximately 9% by 2030. Now"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "hang on. Remember I talked about"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "Virginia and how maybe some poor"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "planning or maybe they were a little"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "eager. Northern Virginia is the data"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "center and AI computation area hotbed of"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "the world. And the estimate is that"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "Virginia's grid will have 40% of the"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "megawws generated on the Virginia grid"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "will be powering data centers. Let me"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "say that again. 40% of the Virginia grid"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "will be powering data centers. So if"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "you're Akmed Al Kaboom and you want to"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "create problems for the US economy, the"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "place you want to hit will be Northern"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "Virginia. We hope there's security in"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "place because in terms of national"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "security, that is where there could be"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "serious issues. But where are there even"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "bigger issues? This is why there's such"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "a furer on we got to get small nukes, we"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "got to get permits that I have been a"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "supporter of because we need that. We"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "also need the data center providers to"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "be bringing plans forward in outland"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "rural areas that are far from the the"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "central uh areas so not driving up home"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "prices consuming land as far out as"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "possible with their own small nuke"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "reactors so they can provide it. So we"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "get AI the data centers get their place"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "and the impact on communities is lower"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "because the impact on grids is"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "unmistakable."}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "Next up, the true cost and what's really"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "going on in the two-part story of $ 31"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "billion in rate hikes. First, let me"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "tell you a little story. There are two"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "sides to the power problem in AI. One is"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "high tension wires and transmission"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "underground, above ground, wherever it"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "is, high-end cabling to get the power"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "from where it's generated to the data"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "center where it goes. Wires are said to"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "be 45 to 50% of the cost. Power"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "generation about 55% of the cost. You"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "follow that? Not only do you get the new"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "power plant to bring power to the data"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "center, now you need the wires and"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "infrastructures, which is why putting"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "reactor collocated on site with the data"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "centers is such a wise decision. Now you"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "just need the wires from there to take"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "that power back to the normal grid if"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "there's a civil disturbance or something"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "so that the data center operators could"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "be good citizens using the power from"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "the reactor on site to power the data"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "center and if there's tornadoes or"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "issues that are out there and they can"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "keep their power working, they can flow"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "it out to the grid to help the citizens"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "in time of need. It seems to be a nice"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "symbiotic relationship if it worked that"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "way. Right now it's not. Right now we"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "have pressure. Half of the buildout is"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "transmission and distribution."}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "Historically the wire costs get spread"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "around to the rate players. Rate hikes."}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "Now some of this is hidden. If they were"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "building data centers in California, one"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "of the hidden costs would be they have"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "to rebuild all of that PG&"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "infrastructure that goes through central"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "California. you know, some of the"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "ancient stuff that was in the PG& towers"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "in California that was actually arcing"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "during storms and causing some of the"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "wildfires. That stuff that was way too"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "old and hadn't been retrofit and the"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "deals with Sacramento PG& allegedly"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "hadn't done that. Well, guess what?"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "Around the US also, these data center"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "buildouts have been opportunities for"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "power companies to go, we really need to"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "retrofit. Maybe this is the time we do"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "it and just kind of slide it into the"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "budget there. Yes, it's happening"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "exactly that way and it's coming to the"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "rateayer. The other half is generation."}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "Now, is the generation coal power, oil"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "power, gas power, hydro or modern nuke?"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "Who knows? But the transmission cost and"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "the generation costs are both two part"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "of the issue. Now, guess what? $ 31"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "billion in consumer rate hikes were"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "requested last year and 64% of them were"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "approved. Now, you take a look at the"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "rate hikes from 24, which were just"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "under 15 billion. It doubled in 2025. No"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "wonder this is an election issue for the"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "midterms. No wonder the average"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "consumers are heading to city hall with"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "complaints that fall in to the next"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "issue that we have for you right now."}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "Last point, number five. 300 bills that"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "have shown up in legislatures everywhere"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "and a 100 moratoriums recorded in the"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "first six weeks of 2026. That's right."}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "We're standing here in May and this is"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "just the official tabulation through"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "February 14th. Happy Valentine's Day. We"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "have 300 state bills trying to stop data"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "centers or adjust them. A 100 local"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "moratoriums. Take a look at what"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "happened. 300 bills in the first six"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "weeks of 2026, barely 175, all of 25."}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "There was less than a hundred in 2024,"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "less than 50 2023. In 2022, what's a"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "moratorum? What's a bill? What's the"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "problem? What's the fuss? We're all"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "trying to come out of COVID, whatever."}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "Well, now if you take a look at what's"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "going on here, we have gone from ribbon"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "cutings to protests. When Bernie Sanders"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "and the local Republican committee in"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "Northern Virginia are in agreement, you"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "know something's wrong. This is where"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "it's come to. Now, there are a ton of"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "these bills. The numbers I have found"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "that up to 92% of the 300 pieces of"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "legislation have stalled due to"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "lobbyists representing the power"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "industry and AI. Power industry wants to"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "build the bigger plant. They want to"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "charge you more. They want to charge AI"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "for it. and the AI data centers work it."}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "So you have this mountain of lobbying"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "pushing against the state bills that are"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "being driven by citizens saying I don't"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "mind that we have AI but why does the"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "data center have to be here why does my"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "electricity have to go up in the process"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "I'm not liking this can't we manage this"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "better and that's exactly what the bills"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "are trying to do and 100 moratoriums"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "that are up there that are trying to be"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "broken by the industry lobbyists for"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "power and for technology that's exactly"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "what's happening and it's a monstrous"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "issue on the ballot this year. You saw"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "just moments ago the rateayer pledge"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "that the president has asked for that I"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "think should be turned into firm"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "legislation and number 301 should be a"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "rateayer pledge that becomes hardened"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "legislation that says you will pay for"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "the power generation that you supplement"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "you will connect to the grid we can"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "coexist and we can get there together"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "but it takes leadership"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "that's the AI and electricity story that"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "you asked for and the stats, the numbers"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "that were screaming that I dug up for"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "you. 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[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "This next story is an interesting one."}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "Okay, Michael's biopic came out, Michael"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "Jackson, and it just crossed 700 million"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "dollars. I think opening weekend at 217"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "million. They're thinking it's going to"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "cross a billion. The same guy that"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "produced Michael produced Bohemian Rap"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "City, which Bohemian Rap City is number"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "one alltime biopic. If I'm not mistaken,"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "that one did $900 million uh uh as the"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "as the biopic. And by the way, do you"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "know how much interesting facts are in"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "this movie? You know who stars Michael?"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:34", "text": ">> Who?"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:36", "text": ">> Uh Jafar Jackson. You know who Jafar"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "Jackson is? He's the son of Germaine"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "Jackson. Do you know who Germaine"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "Jackson is?"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:44", "text": ">> Germaine Jackson had that one song, Do"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "What You Do"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "anymore? Like that whole song. So, but"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "here's here's the interesting part. One"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "day, Graham Kink, who produced both"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "Bohemian Rap City and Michael, comes up"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "to Jafar and says, \"Hey, you look like"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "Michael. You're his nephew. I want you"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "to play Michael.\" Jafar says, \"I'm not"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "an actor.\" He says, \"What do you mean"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "you've never acted?\" He says, \"No, I"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "golf.\" He said, \"What? What are you"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "talking?\" He says, \"No, no, I'm not an"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "actor. I'm a golfer. I have his moves"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "because it's my uncle, so I learned the"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "moves, but I'm not an actor.\" He says,"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "\"Well, are you open to it?\" He says,"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "\"Not really. I'm not in acting. I've"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "never taken any acting class.\" So,"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "Graham King says, \"Would you be okay if"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "I hire somebody that teaches you acting"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "for the next two years and you learn how"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "to act?\" He says, \"I'm open to.\" Look"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "how long-term thinking Graham King is"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:35", "text": ">> for two years. They spend time with"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "them."}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:40", "text": ">> He eventually starts getting it down and"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "he stars in the movie. And by the way, I"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "watched the movie. He crushed it."}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:45", "text": ">> Same as Bohemian Rap City. Some of the"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "people are like, \"Well, the whole nasty"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "part of, you know, Freddy Mercury wasn't"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "in it as much as it should have been.\""}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "There was stuff in there."}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:53", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:55", "text": ">> And you know, all the nasty side of"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "Michael wasn't in there. But here's"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "where it gets interesting."}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:02", "text": ">> Do you know who wasn't like which"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "character of the family wasn't in the"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "movie? Michael,"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:05", "text": ">> the father."}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:06", "text": ">> Janet Jackson. The father's like the"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "main villain. Really?"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:10", "text": ">> He's phenomenal. The villain is phen"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "without the father, this movie doesn't"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "make any sense."}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:16", "text": ">> Joe Jackson. So the who's the youngest"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "child the Jackson sat 10 kids. Janice"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "the youngest. You know who's the second"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "youngest? It's a guy named Randy"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "Jackson. Tom was on a flight with Randy"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "Jackson. Now watch this."}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:25", "text": ">> Not from American."}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:28", "text": ">> No, no, no. Different Randy. So Randy"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "Jackson marries a girl, doesn't marry a"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "girl, ends up with this one girl. Rob,"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "can you pull up who Randy Jackson has"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "two kids with? She's got a Hispanic"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "name. Beautiful girl. Him and this girl"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "are together. They have two kids"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "together. Okay. But they never got"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "married. They were together for eight"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "years. Her name is Alejandra. This girl"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "right here, Alejandra Genevieve Oaza."}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "Okay, so they're together for two years"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "and then guess what ends up happening?"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "They have a breakup. Guess who she goes"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "and marries and is with him for eight"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "years? Germaine Jackson."}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:02", "text": ">> No way. They went to the brother."}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:03", "text": ">> The same girl had two kids with two"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "Jacksons. No way."}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:09", "text": ">> You guys didn't know the story."}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "Two kids with two Jacksons. So now with"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "Germaine, she has a kid called Jafar"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "Jackson. Jafar plays the role of Michael"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "Jackson. And guess who's close with who?"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "Janet Jackson and Randy are close. And"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "Janet said, \"I don't want to have"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "anything to do with this movie. You guys"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "do everything you want to do, but we"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "don't want to be in it.\" So you will"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "never see Janet Jackson in the movie at"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "all. You will only see some of the"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "brothers that took place. And there was"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "a couple clips that when this interview"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "was taking place that it's such an"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "interesting thing they the the father is"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "the main character in the movie as good"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "of a job Jafar does the father in the"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "movie is the one that makes it very"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "interesting taking out the belt beating"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "him up. Michael was interviewed many"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "times says what do you remember about"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "your dad since I was 5 years old. You"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "know he would take out the belt and all"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "this other stuff. A lot there's a lot of"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "clips about it, but one of the clips is"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "when they ask Joe the father, \"Hey, if"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "you were alive, if you and Michael were"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "closer together, would if you were still"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "in Michael's life, would Michael still"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "have been around?\" Rob, I don't know if"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "you can find that clip or not. He says,"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "\"If I was in Michael's life, I would he"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "would still be around. He would still be"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "alive because I wouldn't have let those"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "guys do what they did.\""}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:24", "text": ">> This is Joe."}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:26", "text": ">> This is Joe. Yeah, this is Joe. He says,"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "\"There's I love my father, but I uh"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "yeah, this this is this is the this is"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "the interesting part about what this guy"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "did to drive the hell out of his kids.\""}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "Maybe Rob, play this clip first. This"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "clip is when when uh Michael says, \"I"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "didn't know my father.\" I just send it"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "to if you want to play this clip. And"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "remember, by the way, when it comes down"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "to Michael, Michael was a phenomen."}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "Like, you know, people say Drake has"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "more number one records now. He broke"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "the record of Michael. There's a very"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "different thing with the influence"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "Michael had over Drake. Michael was"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "like, you know, the the the impact all"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "over the world. Rob, if you pull this"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "clip, watch as Michael talking about his"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "dad. And then play the Michael's father"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "clip. Go for it."}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:09", "text": ">> He also said, \"I love my father, but I"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "don't know him.\""}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:14", "text": ">> I love my father, but I don't know him."}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "I don't know him the way I'd like to"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "know him. My mother's wonderful to me."}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "She's perfection. I just wish I could"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "understand my father. What do you have"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "to say about that?"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:30", "text": ">> Well, uh I I can't help it because he"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "don't know me. Uh"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "one of the things that uh he should know"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "is that I was there from the beginning."}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "I raised him. I worked two jobs to keep"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "food on the table. It wasn't easy to"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "support nine kids"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:50", "text": ">> and and I did all these things and and"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "kept on with instruments and rehearsed"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "them too to be entertainers"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:57", "text": ">> and he did."}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:06:00", "text": ">> He should know me but I don't know why"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "he don't"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:03", "text": ">> kind of interesting right now play the"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "other clip Rob on when he's asked about"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "if Michael would have been around. Watch"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "what he says here."}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:10", "text": ">> Let me ask you a question. If uh if you"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "were in Michael's life, would he still"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "be alive today?"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:17", "text": ">> Of course."}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:19", "text": ">> Of course. I I had told"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "some people,"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "some friends that if I don't get to"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "Michael, he ain't going to be here long."}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "I said that"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "he won't be with us long."}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "And I call the shot to the T. That's"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "exactly what had happened. I just didn't"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "like"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "to see him. Matter of fact, I wouldn't"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "go and see him land up in the casket"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "because I did not I didn't want to"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "remember him."}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "No, I wanted to remember him"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "live and dancing on stage."}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:07", "text": ">> Best ever."}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "He was your boy. He's my son."}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:11", "text": ">> By the way, one of the things Michael"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "said, one of the things Michael said is,"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "\"I fear for my life. They are trying to"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "eliminate me because I've said too"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "much.\" Okay. He also said, \"The"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "government altered the frequency of"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "music to control and influence your"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "minds.\" He said, \"It's not the"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "government, it's the elite.\" This guy"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "got started talking about some heavy"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "heavy stuff. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:32", "text": ">> History books are false. The history"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "they teach you in school is nothing but"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "lies. Okay? I mean, he uh uh I have to"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "escape the system that controls the"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "world. They want to kill me for my"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "catalog. One day, the truth will come"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "out."}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "I reported them. So, they falsely accuse"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "me. They want to kill me and they they"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "will say I died because of an overdose."}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "He said that."}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:56", "text": ">> He said that. I remember."}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:58", "text": ">> He said that. Okay. And then what ends"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "up happening? So this is why that look"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "if you if you're a Michael fan or if"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "you're you know you like musical biopics"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "this is actually very very good movie."}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "We want to watch it. Tiko gave it a nine"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "and a half. He's like this is this is a"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "very very good movie. It's it's tragic"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "what happens when you make it at that"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "level. And there's typically a guy like"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "him. Remember the story of Serena and"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "Venus Williams. What they call the movie"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "what they call me Richard. I don't know"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "what it was called."}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:21", "text": ">> King Richard. King Richard. Yeah Smith"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "played him and then he smacked Chris"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "Rock."}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:24", "text": ">> How do you process it when you see what"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "the father had to say about Michael?"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "It's it's such a man it's such a"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "slippery slope pad because it think"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "about it if if Joe Jackson didn't do"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "what he did and I know people are going"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "to be like what are you listen you don't"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "get and I Michael Jackson's my number"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "one of all time forever see he was just"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "fantastic amazing amazing the most"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "talented person they said that if you"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "could pat he was so famous you could"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "take the glove the Michael Jackson glove"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "and go to parts of Africa no TV no"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "nothing and just put it on and they"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "would know that it was Michael Jackson."}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "Like they know that. But if you don't"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "get that discipline and that push, you"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "don't have the Michael Jackson. On the"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "flip side, he was such in pain and"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "wanted love from his father. And then"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "when people are like, \"Oh, he was"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "hanging out with little kids.\" Yeah. He"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "missed that entire childhood while you"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "were outside and playing with little"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "Johnny and Timmy and Sarah. Michael"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "Jackson was in a freaking house"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "practicing and getting his butt whooped"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "when he wasn't doing it right or when he"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "was failing at it. And then you got the"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "greatest artist."}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:23", "text": ">> Did you see the movie? I didn't see"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "that."}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:26", "text": ">> You would love the movie."}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:28", "text": ">> I'll go watch it again with you. You"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "would love the movie. It's not going to"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "want me to watch it."}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:31", "text": ">> It's a very very good movie."}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:34", "text": ">> But and it's such a like and that's the"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "question. Do do you give Michael Jackson"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "and the the question is God rest his"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "soul. Would you ask Michael, hey,"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "Michael, if we went back in time, would"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "you want your dad to have just left you"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "alone and you would have just done done"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "whatever you want and you would have"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "picked your own thing? Because it seems"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "like, you know, Joe was very very hard"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "on him and said, \"Look, this is the this"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "is what you're going to do. these are"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "the hours you're going to put in and"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "you're going to perfect it. So, I'm It's"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "just a"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:57", "text": ">> Do you think he died or they killed him?"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:09:59", "text": ">> I don't I mean, Conrad Murray's the one"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "that gave him that that last uh whatever"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "medication or or anything like that,"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "Pat, but I was following. By the way, I"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "was performing with Damon Wayne Senior,"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "I believe, in Cleveland. We were doing"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "the show and Damon Wayne's knew Michael"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "personally. There was a part of his"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "house where he has like a in a glass"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "case with the glove and and a jacket and"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "everything. I saw Damon's face and I was"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "like, \"Oh my, like what's what's going"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "on?\" and Michael Jackson had passed and"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "we had to go and do the show. It was one"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "of the worst shows because everybody was"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "in such shock. Um, what was the question"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "Pat that you asked?"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:30", "text": ">> Whether you think he died or they killed"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "him?"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:34", "text": ">> I don't know. I I I think that under"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "under a circumstance where you're"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "talking about and if you what was the"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "concert called, Rob, the last the last"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "tour that"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:40", "text": ">> Victory?"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:42", "text": ">> No, no, no, no, no. Victory is not the"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "last one. Victory is one. The last thing"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "that he was doing where he was even"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "saying if we don't get this right and"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "I'm going to expose stuff, this is it."}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "This is it. He was saying it, Pat. He"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "almost knew that they were going to do"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "it. So I I would say with with with the"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "evil powers that run this world, Pat,"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "especially with buying Sony, and he was"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "saying Tommy Matah was the devil and all"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "that stuff, I w it wouldn't put it past"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "me that they did something to kill him,"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "to shut him up. He said something. He"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "says, \"At 5 years old, uh, a 100 million"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "people were watching me.\""}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:14", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:15", "text": ">> At five years old, I had the precious I"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "I don't know what it is to be a kid. I"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "never had the opportunity to become a"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "kid. Never. So, this is the clip. Rob,"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "if you want to clip play this and then"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "Tom, I'm gonna come to you because Tom"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "Tom was at the V the entire thing ends"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "at the victory tour"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:29", "text": ">> and Tom worked the victory tour. Just so"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "you know."}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:31", "text": ">> You mean this that this is it or the"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "victory?"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:35", "text": ">> This is the tour. Tom watched Michael"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "Jackson perform. Did you say six days?"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:37", "text": ">> Seven. It was seven days at Dodger"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "Stadium."}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:40", "text": ">> What do you mean you worked the victory?"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:43", "text": ">> He worked at the Dodger Stadium. Watch"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "Michael Jackson live. What do you mean"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "you were working? And you're doing"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "Bisdock stuff at the stadium."}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:49", "text": ">> No, no, no. I I got through one of the"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "ways I got through college is I was an"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "usher at Dodger Stadium. And when the"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "victory tour came through, Dodger"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "Stadium was responsible for ticketing,"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "security, ushers, and everything like"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "that. And so there was a tremendous uh"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "floor uh seating that was there and it"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "had to be handled differently because it"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "wasn't like numbered the way it was in"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "the stadium. There was a lot of things"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "that had to happen and so that we knew"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "the stadium and so we were went through"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "this whole thing. This is what we're"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "going to do. This we're going to do. He"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "wants, you know, keep let the people"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "stand up and sing down downstairs. Don't"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "let don't make them sit down. Blah blah"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "blah blah. All these things we did, but"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "we saw all seven concerts. It was"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "amazing."}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:25", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "Do you have that clip? Yep."}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:29", "text": ">> This is it. Watch this. Go ahead."}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:31", "text": ">> Don't read all the things written about"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "me. I wasn't aware that the world"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "thought I was so weird and bizarre. But"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "when you grow up as I did in front of"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "100 million people since the age of"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "five, you're automatically different. My"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "childhood was completely taken away from"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "me. There was no Christmas. There was no"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "birthdays. Those were exchanged for hard"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "work, struggle, and pain and eventual"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "material and professional success. But"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "as an awful price, I cannot recreate"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "that part of my life. And that's why I"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "love children and learn so much from"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "being around them. I realized that many"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "of our world's problems today from the"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "inner city crime to largecale wars and"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "terrorism and our overcrowded prisons."}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:16", "text": ">> Pause it right there. There's something"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:19", "text": ">> there's something very special about"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "him. You know, he you you hear this and"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "you kind of goes to Justin Bieber when"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "he played that one song. You know, he"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "wrote that one song, Lonely, and you see"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "him in the mirror where it's him and the"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "kid."}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:30", "text": ">> You know, we can't play it obviously,"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "but Adam, your thoughts on this?"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:33", "text": ">> I got a lot of thoughts on this. Uh,"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "I'll tell you this. I think Michael"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "Jackson was our the last I'm talking"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "worldclass"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "phenomenon musician that we'll ever see"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "ever."}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:45", "text": ">> I agree."}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:47", "text": ">> I mean the last of a kind. I mean"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "because before him it was the Beatles,"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "then it was Elvis. You could argue that"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "Madonna was kind of in that, but there"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "was only one Michael. I'll give you a"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "quick story. I was I got a haircut. I"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "don't know if you noticed. And I'm at"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "the barber shop and uh you know my"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "assistant producer Jaden, he's there"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "with me and me and Brandon, he's giving"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "me a fade. this guy Brandon and uh he's"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "like, \"How old are you?\" You know, he's"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "I just graduated. I'm 22. Man, you're"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "just man, you're just a little j little"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "jitter bug is what he called him. And"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "Michael Jackson comes on and I'm getting"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "my haircut. And I go, \"I'm talking to"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "the man in that song right there. I love"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "that song.\" And then he says, \"Yeah, I"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "think Prince was better.\" And me and"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "Brandon, who's like my age, go, \"What?"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "What? What did you just say? You think"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "Prince is better than Michael Jackson?\""}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "Yeah. you know, party like it's 1999,"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "great little Gro Corvette. I get I said"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "I said, \"Listen, do me a favor. I need"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "you to understand something. You're the"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "little young Jed Buck.\" There's a"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "difference between an icon, there's a"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "difference between a Prince or some may"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "say, a Madonna, some may say a Beyonce,"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "you could even say a Justin Bieber. When"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "you're talking about a phenomenon that"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "the world has never seen, that's Michael"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "Jackson. That's who he is. He had a lot"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "of extracurricular weird stuff, but you"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "know, they sep separate the art from the"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "artist. The last of his kind. Yeah. That"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "will take over the world."}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:08", "text": ">> By the way, my dad hit me with a belt"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "and I joined the Air Force. Joel hit him"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "with a belt and he was Michael Jackson."}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "Whatever belt that was."}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:15", "text": ">> I wish I could play a song from"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "Instagram."}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:18", "text": ">> Remember when he got hit on the head?"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:19", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:22", "text": ">> Okay. How about this? Other things can"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "happen. Favorite Michael Jackson song."}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "If you can only listen to one MJ."}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:28", "text": ">> Annie, are you okay? Dirty Diana."}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "Are you okay? That's Smooth Criminal."}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:30", "text": ">> Billy Jean."}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:31", "text": ">> So you like Smooth Criminal?"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:32", "text": ">> Billy Jean."}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:33", "text": ">> Oh man."}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:35", "text": ">> Thriller."}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:37", "text": ">> Thriller. Thriller. Just a video on the"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "By, you know what I would do, Pat?"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "Because I was such I was so in awe of"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "Michael Jackson and anybody at home"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "could do this. Go to fans reacting to"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "Michael. There's people like girls like"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "OUT IN PUBLIC CRYING AND FAINTING and"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "the best ever. And Pam, I have the DVD"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "at my house cuz I saved it. It's Michael"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "Jackson live at Bucharest Dangerous"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "Tour. It's He You hear the lion. I got"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "goosebumps. The lion. Look at my"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "goosebumps. The lion roar. He shoots"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "through the stage, stands there,"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "glasses, gold g-string outside of his"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "pants, and for two and a half minutes,"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "he's standing like that. 10 people look"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "at this. Pass out. And look, he This is"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "it. He's guys, he doesn't talk."}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:18", "text": ">> Yeah. He They don't They don't do the"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "music back."}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:22", "text": ">> There'll never be anything like this."}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:23", "text": ">> 10 people, men, women, faint. Watch."}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "Does he move his head? Watch when he"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "moves. Bye. He's wearing a gold g-string"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "outside of his pants. Don't worry about"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "that."}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:31", "text": ">> People were literally Guys, the Imagine"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "paying for the concert. It hasn't"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "started. You've already faint."}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:39", "text": ">> YEAH. LOOK AT THIS. NOBODY OH."}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:39", "text": ">> OH MY GOD. I'M GOING TO CRY. LOOK AT"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "HER."}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:43", "text": ">> TOM IS THERE. TOM IS THERE BEING THE"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "USHER COLLECTING tickets right now."}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:47", "text": ">> All right, dude. Goosebumps. I mean, one"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "of one right there. Stop crying."}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:52", "text": ">> When we came from Iran, I had one"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "Michael Jackson shirt. Let me tell you"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "that Michael Jackson shirt to wear you"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "thought you were cool. But in for"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "whatever reason in America if you wore"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "it at that time it wasn't cool. I don't"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "know why it wasn't. No, no, I wore the"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "Michael Jackson."}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:03", "text": ">> Tell me you've never tried to do the"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "moonwalk."}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:04", "text": ">> I'm getting on my"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:06", "text": ">> You've all tried."}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:09", "text": ">> Listen, today with my torn ACL, there's"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "not a lot of things if I do my miniscus."}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "So I got to protect the highest grossing"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:16", "text": ">> movie of all uh biopic musical biop."}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "It's it's worth watching."}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:19", "text": ">> Gotcha. And number one was what again?"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:21", "text": ">> Bohemian rap which is also for now. He"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "didn't beat it. I'm kidding. He didn't"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "beat it today."}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:25", "text": ">> There's a big game coming up around the"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "corner. I think nine of them are going"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "to be in Dallas. We were at a hotel"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "yesterday. Everything was about the the"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "the World Soccer tournament that's"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "coming out that everybody's going to be"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "watching. You know, Neymar, Messi."}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "Yesterday they announced Messi's going"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "into a six World Cup. I don't know if"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "you saw that."}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:43", "text": ">> It's going to be crazy. It's going to be"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "a big tournament that they're having."}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "And so while you're going through that,"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "depending on the countries you're from,"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "we have some special gear that is"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "limited. There's not a big supply of"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "them. And we chose the countries based"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "on who watches the content the most. And"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "it has the future looks bright with the"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "country's flag. So having said that,"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "watch this video and then I'll tell you"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "what future looks bright gear we have"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "here for you. Go ahead, Rob."}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "down"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "the goal with a"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:29", "text": ">> Portugal for"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "Mexico."}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "By the way, that's Iran with the old"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "planet."}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:39", "text": ">> Nice. The shi flag of Muhammad Sha."}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "France"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "wee"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "done."}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:55", "text": ">> And then we got a few other ones."}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:02", "text": ">> Who is this? This is Colombia."}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:02", "text": ">> Colia."}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:08", "text": ">> These things look good. And Argentina."}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "You know, people are dancing at home"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "right now in the car."}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:15", "text": ">> So, remember, it's not a big supply. If"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:17", "text": "you're watching this, you want to get"}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "the shirt combination. This is the US"}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "hat that we have with the US flag on the"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "lid with the soccer ball inside of it."}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "These things look absolutely insane. And"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "by the way, we didn't get a big supply"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "of them. Some of them, it's only 50."}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "Like the Iran one that we have with the"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "Shahan Shai flag on the bottom of it."}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "It's only 50. So, if some of you guys"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "are going to the game and you kind of"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "want to wear the hat because they're"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "saying you cannot wear the hat, Vinnie,"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "I don't know if I gave it to you or not."}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:42", "text": ">> No, I don't have that."}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:44", "text": ">> Do you have the Iran hat?"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:45", "text": ">> One more. I think it's the one."}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:48", "text": ">> This one here. I don't know which one it"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "is. One of these we have here. It looks"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "ridiculous the the way. There you go."}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "Look at this"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:55", "text": ">> on the bottom of the lid right there. I"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:57", "text": "love the fact that you have it. So,"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:19:59", "text": ">> Iran's it's only 50 of them. So, first"}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "come, first serve. If somebody buys 50,"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "it's literally going to say sold out."}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:04", "text": "And then you have all the other"}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "countries and US. And then if you want"}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "to combine it with the shirts, Rob, if"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "you want to go a little bit lower, it'll"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "go to Click on the Argentina one. View"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "all"}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "go all the way to the top, Rob. Right"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "there, you have all of them together."}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:19", "text": "Shirts, hats, go a little bit lower. So"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "buy the hats with the shirts combined."}, {"start": "00:20:19", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "Future looks bright. This is not going"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "to last a long time. Represent your"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "country while you're representing the"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "future looks bright. If you enjoyed this"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "video, you want to watch more videos"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:37", "text": "like this, click here. 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You know, um, um,"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "NRA sues Maryland officials over Glock"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "pistol ban. Glock pistol ban. Is this"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "it, Rob?"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:35", "text": ">> Yes, sir."}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:37", "text": ">> Go for it."}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:39", "text": ">> Oh, there's no way. I can't hear"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "anything she's saying. So, uh, National"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "Rifle Association and two other gun"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "rights groups sue Maryland officials"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "Tuesday over freshly signed legislation"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "that effectively bans the sales of Glock"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "pistols in the state. 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The law defines such pistols as"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "semi-automatic firearms with crucifform"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "triggers bars that can easily be turned"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "into machine guns by installing or"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "attaching a pistol converter, sometimes"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "called a Glock switch, as a replacement"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "for the slides back play, Tom."}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "So, what he's trying to do, this is a"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "test. Uh Wesmore is not a dumb guy. I"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "disagree with his policies, things like"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "that, but he's not stupid. Uh what he's"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "testing here is are they going to be"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "able to get certain guns uh that say"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "well wait this one can be easily"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "converted to automatic and let me draw a"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "line um for people you know the"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "insurance industry that actually reached"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "out and sued what was it Kia because"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "they said two of their cars were very"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "easy to be uh stolen. It was very easy"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "to break in and very easy to flip"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "ignition on. I think it was Kia and the"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "insurance uh Institute of America was"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "like, \"Hey, on behalf of all car"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "insurance companies, Kia and Hyundai"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "settled 145 million class action for"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "vehicles because they were lacking"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "engine immobilizers.\" And guess what? US"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "Circuit Court for the Ninth Circuit"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "upheld the settlement. So guess what?"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "That was victims and insurance"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "companies. So he's trying to test that"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "if there's a flaw in a product, can I"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "get it blocked? But what's also going on"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "here is there the dream of uh Democrats"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "on gun control has always been to get a"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "definition bill passed. You know what a"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "definition bills,"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:43", "text": ">> Vinnie? Where the addendum lists all the"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "guns that follow the definition. So"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "let's get AR style guns banned. And then"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "all they do is keep getting another"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "model and another model and another"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "model until every gun imaginable is"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "listed on the addendum. So effectively"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "the bill is what? A gun ban."}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:02", "text": ">> So it starts out sounding like sneaky."}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "And this is what the NRA I mean people"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "may not like the NRA and they're"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "lobbying. Well other people don't like"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "other lobbies. And so what Wes is trying"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "to do right here, Pat, is test whether"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "he can get uh on the grounds that"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "there's a product flaw that leads to an"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "issue. Just like the class action suit"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "on cars, he's trying to see if he can"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "get it through despite the NRA and"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "others prot uh suit against it. And then"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "then he wants to move from there. That's"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "what's going on here."}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:32", "text": ">> Vinnie,"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:33", "text": ">> I don't have nothing. I don't I don't"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "even want to add it to anything against"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "guns. I'm not happy about it. Well, I"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "think if this is just Maryland following"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "suit, if you look at the highest tax"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "states, they're also the strictest gun"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "law states. There's a correlation there."}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "The big blue states and the big blue"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "cities. The states with the highest uh"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "strictest gun laws are all the states"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "you would suspect. California number"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "one, Illinois, Massachusetts, New York,"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "New Jersey, uh Hawaii, and then"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "Maryland. Maryland is wait I think of"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "Maryland I don't know as as because it's"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "next to Virginia DC as more of a purple"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "state but I've realized that it's just"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "officially blue. That's just all I want"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "to say. So he's just doing what all his"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "constituents want which is higher taxes,"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "more liberalism, stricter gun laws, and"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "uh yeah that's just following. If you're"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "testing to see how this is going to land"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "with people, this is the part that, you"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "know, the Democrats keep giving more"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "confidence to Republicans while"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "Republicans will continue winning is"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "because they don't know how to connect"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "with independents. They keep thinking"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "that you're in a room, everyone's like,"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "\"Oh my god, you're so great, Adam. Oh my"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "god, you're so great, Vinnie. You're so"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "this. You're so Oh my god, I'm killing"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "it.\" And then you run a poll and you're"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "like, \"Oh [ __ ] I'm not killing it."}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "Right."}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:51", "text": ">> I I thought I thought everybody loved"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "me. No, they don't."}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:55", "text": ">> No, no, no. They're not happy with it."}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "Okay. All right. So, now you got some"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "Oh, maybe in some rooms they all like"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "you,"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:01", "text": ">> but which rooms do does everybody like"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "you? Not in every room. Now, there's"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "certain people you're not going to win"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "over no matter what. There's people that"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "wake up in the morning. Anything good"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "you do, you do 99 things right, they"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "could give a [ __ ] about the 99 things"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "you do right. They just want to care"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "about the one thing you do wrong. Set"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "that community aside. Believe it or not,"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "it's not that big of a community because"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "those guys that are like that, guess"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "what are the way they are with their"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "personal life? Same exact way."}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:24", "text": ">> They they look at the world and the only"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "thing they see is the bad. They don't"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "see the good. They're typically only"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "wired that way."}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:32", "text": ">> But you have to listen to the reasonable"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "voices. And the reasonable voices are"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "typically independents."}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:38", "text": ">> The independents are the reasonable"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "ones. They're the ones that they're"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "like, \"Huh,"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "he's kind of right. Why are we paying"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "more into NATO than others? Why are"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "other countries not? That's a very good"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "question. Trump, right? And this is an"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "independent who would have never voted"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "for Trump. Why are we letting in so many"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "millions of people into the country? You"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "know, James Tarico was asked a question"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "by Pete Hexet when he used to work work"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "at Fox, if you can find this,"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "why are you not for voter ID? Yeah."}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:07", "text": ">> And he's like, well, there's just a"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "hundreds of thousands of people in Texas"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "that have a hard time getting an ID."}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "It's like, uh, what what problem do you"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "have with not needing an ID to vote? You"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "know, 15 to 16 states in America, you"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "don't even need an ID to vote. So, the"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "independent says, what, Vinnie? You know"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "what the independent says? Why do I need"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "an ID to go through TSA pre, but I need"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "I don't need an ID to vote. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:29", "text": ">> What's a bigger decision?"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:31", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:33", "text": ">> Yeah. What's a bigger decision?"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:34", "text": ">> You know, so so I need an ID to go into"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "a nightclub, but I don't need an ID to"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "vote. The independent, believe it or"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "not, is that keeps America like this. Is"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "this it, Rob? Yeah, it's a short clip."}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "Go for it, Rob. Watch this. With his"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "beautiful haircut."}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:45", "text": ">> Are you okay with voter ID?"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:47", "text": ">> So, voter ID is currently required in"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "the state of Texas. I I opposed having"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "to"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:50", "text": ">> How about for mail in ballots? How about"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "having to send your ballot in? Should"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "you have to prove who you are? Cuz"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "that's what Democrats are opposing."}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:57", "text": ">> Pete, I just said I I oppose voter ID."}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "Currently, it's a law in Texas, but I"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "oppose that law because I think you"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "don't need any voter ID. So, pause it"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "right there. So, guess what? What do you"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "mean you oppose voter ID?"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:08", "text": ">> What do you mean you want to take Glocks"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "away from people? independents are like,"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "\"No, second amendment and and crimes are"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "going up. You're seeing what's"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "happening. You want me to not want to"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "have a protection for my wife or"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "myself?\" No, no, I'm not with that. And"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "then you do it in a state like uh"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "Maryland."}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:25", "text": ">> So this the part where guys play"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "politics. He has so many things going"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "for himself as a Democratic candidate."}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "Any day of the week, I would pick him as"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "a Democratic candidate to take the"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "primary over Newsome. If I have a guy to"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "win the primary on the left over"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "Newsome, it's it's West Moore, right? If"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "there's somebody on that side, you you"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "would take him more than you would take"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "AOC. It's a very different country."}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "Okay? Very different country. But when"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "you start playing politics, independents"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "are like, \"Yeah, I don't know about"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "that.\" Now, if he's testing and doing"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "what Trump typically does, well, you got"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "a very quick response from people on"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "what's going on. There's a big game"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "coming up around the corner. I think"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "nine of them are going to be in Dallas."}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "We were at a hotel yesterday. Everything"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "was about the the the world soccer"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "tournament that's coming out that"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "everybody's going to be watching. You"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "know, Neymar, Messi, yesterday they"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "announced Messi's going into a six World"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "Cup. I don't know if you saw that. It's"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "going to be crazy. It's going to be a"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "big tournament that they're having."}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:22", "text": ">> And so, while you're going through that,"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "depending on the countries you're from,"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "we have some special gear that is"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "limited. There's not a big supply of"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "them. And we chose the countries based"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "on who watches the content the most and"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "it has the future looks bright with the"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "country's flag. So having said that,"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "watch this video and then I'll tell you"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "what future looks bright gear we have"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "here for you. Go ahead,"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:43", "text": ">> Rob."}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "Portugal,"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:04", "text": ">> Mexico."}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:08", "text": ">> By the way, that's Iran with the old"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "flag."}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:14", "text": ">> Nice. The shi flag of Muhammad Sha"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "France"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "and then we got a few other ones."}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:37", "text": ">> Who is this? This is Colombia."}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:40", "text": ">> Colia."}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "Boom."}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "These things look and Argentina,"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:47", "text": ">> you know, people are dancing at home"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "right now in the car."}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:50", "text": ">> So remember, it's not a big supply. If"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "you're watching this, you want to get"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "the shirt combination. This is the US"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "hat that we have with the US flag on the"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "lid with the soccer ball inside of it."}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "These things look absolutely insane. And"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "by the way, we didn't get a big supply"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "of them. Some of them it's only 50 like"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "the Iran one that we have with the"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "Shahan Shai flag on the bottom of it."}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "It's only 50. So if some of you guys are"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "going to the game and you kind of want"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "to wear the hat because they're saying"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "you cannot wear the hat. Vinnie, I don't"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "know if I gave it to you or not."}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:18", "text": ">> No, I don't have that."}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:19", "text": ">> Do you have the Iran hat?"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:20", "text": ">> One more. I think it's the one."}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:21", "text": ">> This one here."}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:25", "text": ">> I don't know which one it is. One of"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "these we have here. It looks ridiculous"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "the the way. There you go. Look at this"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:30", "text": ">> on the bottom of the lid right there. I"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "love the fact that you have it. So"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "Iran's it's only 50 of them. So first"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "come, first serve. If somebody buys 50,"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "it's literally going to say sold out."}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "And then you have all the other"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "countries and US. And then if you want"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "to combine it with the shirts, Rob, if"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "you want to go a little bit lower, it'll"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "go to Click on the Argentina one. View"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "all"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "go all the way to the top. Rob, right"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "there you have all of them together."}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "Shirts, hats, go a little bit lower. So"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "buy the hats with the shirts combined."}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "Future looks bright. This is not going"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "to last a long time. represent your"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "country while you're representing the"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "future looks bright."}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:07", "text": ">> If you enjoy this video, you want to"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "watch more videos like this, click here."}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "And if you want to watch the entire"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "podcast, click here."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "While we're talking about all this stuff"}, {"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "with the most accessible president in"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "the history of America. No president's"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "been more accessible. Let me give you"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "the antonyym of what accessible is."}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:14", "text": ">> Great word."}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:17", "text": ">> There's a guy named Joe Biden."}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:19", "text": ">> So Joe Biden's wife Jill comes out and"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "says she was worried when he did the"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "debate with the president and she said"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "she thought he was drugged."}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:27", "text": ">> And she said this in an interview. Rob,"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "which clip do you have, by the way? Both"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "of them."}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:32", "text": ">> I have this. This is the clip where she"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "says that she was concerned uh uh during"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "the debate and then I have one about him"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "and his cognitive decline."}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:40", "text": ">> Go for it. Go for it."}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:43", "text": ">> Were you horrified as you saw it unfold?"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:47", "text": ">> I wasn't horrified. I was frightened"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:48", "text": ">> because I had never ever"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:49", "text": ">> seen Joe like that."}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:51", "text": ">> What's Rob? What's the difference"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "between the horrified and frightened me"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "with"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:55", "text": ">> horrified is you saw a car accident."}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "Frightened is a pitbulls in front of"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "you."}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:58", "text": ">> What is the difference? They're both"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "scary."}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:00", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:02", "text": ">> Go ahead."}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:04", "text": ">> We finally beat Medicare."}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:07", "text": ">> Thank you, President Biden."}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:07", "text": ">> Before or since?"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:08", "text": ">> Never."}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:09", "text": ">> Or since."}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:10", "text": ">> Yes. Or since."}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:12", "text": ">> Never seen him like that."}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:13", "text": ">> Never. No."}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:15", "text": ">> What happened?"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:17", "text": ">> I don't know what happened. I mean, when"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "I as I watched it, I thought, \"Oh my"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "god, he's having a stroke.\" And it"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "scared me to death."}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:25", "text": ">> Joe, you did such a great job. You"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "answered every question. You knew all"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "the God, you answered every question."}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "That's going to be so funny."}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:36", "text": ">> ASK THE CROWD. WHAT DID TRUMP DO?"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:38", "text": ">> LIE."}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:40", "text": ">> YEAH. SO, I mean, listen, that's"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "politics. That's optics. And And what"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "you And which which one's this one, Rob?"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:44", "text": ">> This is the cognitive decline."}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:47", "text": ">> Go for it."}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:50", "text": ">> Did you ever see signs that he was"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "falling into cognitive decline?"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:51", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:52", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:53", "text": ">> Come on, man."}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:54", "text": ">> Like,"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:57", "text": ">> truly,"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:59", "text": ">> no. I mean, people were saying he wasn't"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "the same Joe Biden."}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:05", "text": ">> Well, I don't think that's true. He was"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "the same the essence of the same Joe"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "Biden. But yeah, he was slowing down. He"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "was getting older. I mean, we all"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "observe that when you, you know, it's a"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "very intense job. I think it"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:20", "text": ">> I'm gonna come to you first. Go ahead."}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:23", "text": ">> Shame on her. Like, sh and check the"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "tapes. I have never used the the the"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "phrase gaslighting. That's what it is."}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "No, Adam, I swear to you guys, I'm 48"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "years old. This is the first time I'm"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "actually saying it. Now I get that's"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "what gaslighting is. Are you freaking"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "kidding me? The By the way, anytime"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "anybody in this administration, the past"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "administration or the Jake Tappers,"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "anytime, always pay attention. There has"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "to be a book coming out. What's the name"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "of her memoir that that's the only"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "reason she's in front of a camera?"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "That's the only reason she's at CBS."}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "It's called a view from the east wing"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "and it's her just looking at Hunter"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "probably dropping the cocaine in every"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "freaking room. Okay, it's un"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "unbelievable the cognitive decline."}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "Everybody saw it in real time, but"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "everybody knew exactly what was going"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "on. Pat the the Karine Jean Pierre, the"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "J everybody that sat there and was like,"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "\"No, he he's the sharpest I've ever"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "seen. He's sharpest. Give me a break.\""}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "We all saw it. And that's the scariest"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "part is we were screaming from the"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "rooftop but there was nothing that we"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "could do when he was being just coddled"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "and and you know every time that there"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "was questions they would rush him off"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "and they'd be like you guys are crazy"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "you're being stupid he's the greatest"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "president and given the stats Gavin"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "Newsome was one of those people and I"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "just think it's it's it's sad and it's"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "disgusting and at the same time"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "Joe Biden right now is suing the DOJ to"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "stop the release of audio recordings"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "from his interview with the special"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "counsel uh Robert Herpat because They're"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "arguing that those tapes are going to"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "reveal how gone he was. But it it's it's"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "just it's crazy to me that we're going"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "to pretend still to this day, it's been"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "2 years that he was okay and he was"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "making the the decisions. Remember they"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "interviewed all his doctors and"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "everybody, they all pled the fifth. Was"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "he all there? We plead the fifth. And a"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "lot of people were saying that there was"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "two people running the show. One was"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "that guy, who was it, Tommy? The guy"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "with the glasses."}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:13", "text": ">> A no-name guy. Aame guy. A no name guy,"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "but he's a heavyweight."}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:17", "text": ">> And and Jill Biden. They were saying a"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "lot of people were saying like I think I"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "think you had her um Lindy Lee was one"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "of the people that was like Jill Biden"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "was pretty much one of the people that"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "was the president of the United States."}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:27", "text": ">> She was the president of United States."}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "I just think Pat to and again we have to"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "fix what's the solution going forward"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "every single year. The president of the"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "United States has to sit live and do a a"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "nonpartisan cognitive test so we could"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "see. I don't care if it's take the"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "square, put it in the box. We have to do"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "that because that's unbelievable that we"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "they let it happen for that long."}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:47", "text": ">> Rob, what clip is this?"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:49", "text": ">> This is the president. He was asked"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "during the cabinet meeting earlier this"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "week regarding the lawsuit."}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:54", "text": ">> Uh what are your thoughts? Why do you"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "think that Joe Biden is trying to sue"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "the Department of Justice, former"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "President Joe Biden, to have his tapes"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "that he did interviews on blocked from"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "the American people hearing them? Do you"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "think that he's trying to hide something"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "and maybe uh acting attorney general"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "Todd Blanch could comment on if they"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "will counter sue and release those tapes"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "to the American public? Are you thinking"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "about with respect to his book?"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:13", "text": ">> With respect to his book?"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:15", "text": ">> I'd like to see it. I don't know. Maybe"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "there's some constitutional reason. I"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "don't know. I'd like to I would like to"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "see what he has to say because"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:24", "text": ">> we can never allow what happened to this"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "country to happen. The man was grossly"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "incompetent and the Democrats uh I call"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "them the Democrats because the policy is"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "so bad. But they they came very close to"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "destroying our country. We can never let"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "it happen again. And I hope that you're"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "able to produce that. I think it would"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "be a very interesting reading for"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "people."}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:49", "text": ">> Well, Biden was the last moderate that"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "we've seen running for president or any"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "part of the Democratic party. We can go"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "down a whole rabbit hole of how they've"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "become complete socialist and it was"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "this body a bag of bones that was"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "basically keeping this thing together."}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "But you know what it reminds me of? It's"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "like one of those things where it's like"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "nobody just gives up power. You have to"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "take it. And nobody's just gonna say,"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "\"Yeah, you know, my husband's the"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "president or I'm the president. Here you"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "go, guys. I'm done.\" You know, like"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "remember when Michael Frances was here"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "the other day"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:18", "text": ">> and they go, \"Uh, you know, what do you"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "what do you think about Meer Lansky?"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "Great guy. What a guy.\""}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:23", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:24", "text": ">> Uh, Lucky Luciano. Hey, listen."}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "Wonderful guy. There's this famous clip"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "that you see about these guys when like"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "I think uh uh John Gotti got arrested"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "and they were asked him about him in New"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "York. He's like, \"What about all the"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "murder?\" He's like, \"What murder? What"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "about ALL THE CRIME? NO, HE'S A GREAT"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "GUY. Politics is just like uh the mafia."}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "You have, by the way, even more power"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "and more control. So, don't forget Jill"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "Biden is a gangster."}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:49", "text": ">> Oh,"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:52", "text": ">> Jill Biden is a gangster. She was"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "basically saying, I know my husband is"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "basically weaken at Bernie's, weaken at"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "Biden's. I'm going to get up there and"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "do a whole spiel to keep power."}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:00", "text": ">> Of course,"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:02", "text": ">> think about what kind of gangster that"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "is this woman is. So, don't be fooled"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "that she's an elementary school teacher"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "and you answered all the questions."}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "She's like, I'm living in the White"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "House right now and you think I'm going"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "to give this up to this orange clown."}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:17", "text": ">> I'm going to lie about everything. So, I"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "respect her hustle. Thank god he'd win"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "though."}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:20", "text": ">> How about some receipts? Want some"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "receipts?"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:22", "text": ">> Let's play fun with receipts."}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:24", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:27", "text": ">> The Biden administration presented the"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "National Archives with a plan and a"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "price tag for the Biden presidential"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "library. It was $200 million."}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "As of last January 1st, January 1st, at"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "the time Trump was inaugurated, how much"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "had been raised from donors? Remember,"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "it's four months after the election."}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:43", "text": ">> Comparison, Tom, what is it?"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:44", "text": ">> $4 million."}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:46", "text": ">> Oh my god."}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:49", "text": ">> Hang on. They've still been trying to"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "get things raised. And how much have"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "they raised as of right now? Barely 10."}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "They think they'll have 11.3 by the end"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "of this year in seven months."}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:02", "text": ">> For a library. for the library. And by"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "the way, by the way, our good and great"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "friend John Morgan, who's a very funny"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "guy, but also a personal injury attorney"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "who favors the policies of the Democrats"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "that protect personal injury attorneys."}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "Well, hang on. Last fall around"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "Halloween, he asked for a refund of his"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "$800,000 and he said, \"I don't think the"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "library is ever going to get built"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "unless it's an old school bookmobile.\""}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "Because, you know, John is very"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "sarcastic. And John, if you're"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "listening, I'm trying to get your quote"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "right, but that's what you said. And so"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "this is where it is. So why is Hunter"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "going out? Why is this book going out?"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "They apparently have been using Hunter"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "and the book on the psychology tour and"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "they've been reaching out to donors. So"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "there's some of the receipts. They're"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "also worried about Pat, you always talk"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "about it, legacy. And what is more"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "legacy than a presidential library? And"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "this is the first of the last 15"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "presidents that doesn't look like he's"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "going to have a library."}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:56", "text": ">> Not even close to the numbers, Tom."}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "Great job."}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:59", "text": ">> And if they do, like what are you going"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "to do going to the library? What's in"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "the library?"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:05", "text": ">> Sponsored by like what what will be in"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "the library? I mean, look, if"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:08", "text": ">> Hunter Biden's cocaine's there, I think"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "that'll bring people."}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:11", "text": ">> All you have to do is take a little bit"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "of flour, put it in a ziplock, put it"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "there, and say, \"This is allegedly"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "Hunter Biden's cocaine.\""}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:15", "text": ">> I would fly to"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:18", "text": ">> sponsorship like"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:20", "text": ">> I would go to see that zigzag or"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:21", "text": ">> Isn't that Isn't that kind like Well, I"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "mean, technically they were saying too"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "that"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:27", "text": ">> Yeah. You guys remember when Obama did"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "that interview where he's like, I I wish"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "I I I would like to do a third term."}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "Like maybe have the president up there"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "and I would just be in his ear."}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:37", "text": ">> It's pretty clearly obvious that Biden"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "wasn't in charge. Who was calling the"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "shots for the country? Vinnie, the most"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "embarrass by the way, Vinnie, the most"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "embarrassing thing to me is that every"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "time somebody ends up becoming a"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "president, guys go out. Rob, can you"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "pull up how much money was raised for"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "the last six presidents for their"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "library?"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:58", "text": ">> How much money was raised for the last"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "six presidents for their library?"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:04", "text": ">> And Obama and Obama went back for a 33%"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "overrun and he got it. And he got it."}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:07", "text": ">> Massive. Massive if you think about how"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "much Obama got. But I just want to know"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "the last few presidents. Okay, look at"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "Obama. 1.5 billion dollars to build his"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "library."}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:16", "text": ">> And if you look that up, it went into"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "overrun."}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:23", "text": ">> 950 to a billion dollars to put a place"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "here. George Bush 5, by the way, it's a"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "beautiful library for George Bush."}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "Clinton 20 years ago, 165. George HW"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "Bush 83 million. Reagan 30 years ago,"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "100 million."}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:42", "text": ">> Today Biden 4 million. What? Shh."}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:45", "text": ">> But it tells you that 2020"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "election maybe was fake and he wasn't a"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "real president."}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:48", "text": ">> Weird."}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:50", "text": ">> When when it's this kind of support that"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "comes up, this questions a lot of other"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "things."}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:58", "text": ">> Can I can I agree in both push back?"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:11:02", "text": ">> I I think to put a ribbon on this thing,"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:05", "text": ">> June 27th, 2024 was the date of this"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "disaster debate. The date of the debate."}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "His fate was sealed on that stage. If"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "Biden would have done the thing that"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "nobody does is give up power and say,"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "\"Guys, what I was supposed to do is you"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "elected me to take over the the driver's"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "seat from Trump. I did my job. Thank you"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "for allowing me and giving me the"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "confidence to serve this country for"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "four years. Uh due to my health issues,"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "I'm stepping down to spend more time"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "with my family, yada yada yada. But I"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "have trained Kla Harris or whoever it"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "may be a primary. People would have"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "said, \"Wow, you know what? Respect to"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "you, Joe.\" And his legacy would have"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "lived on forever. But because this guy"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "had so much pride, ego, people in his"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "ear, Jill Biden saying, \"You got this,"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "Joe. Run.\" His fate was sealed and his"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "library was not built because of that"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "debate performance. In my opinion,"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:59", "text": ">> Adam, is it possible he was so far gone"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "that he couldn't make that determination"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "and people just carried him along?"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:04", "text": ">> I'm not there. I'm not that I'd like to"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "move on. This is not that important."}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "It's just something that happened. I"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "mean, it's it's worth Yeah, exactly."}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:11", "text": ">> There's a big game coming up around the"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "corner. I think nine of them are going"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "to be in Dallas."}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:18", "text": ">> We were at a hotel yesterday. Everything"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:19", "text": ">> was about the the the World Soccer"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "tournament that's coming up that"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "everybody's going to be watching. You"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "know, Neymar, Messi, yesterday they"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "announced Messi's going into a six World"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "Cup. I don't know if you saw that."}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:29", "text": ">> It's going to be crazy. It's going to be"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "a big tournament that they're having."}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "And so while you're going through that,"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "depending on the countries you're from,"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "we have some special gear that is"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "limited. There's not a big supply of"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "them. And we chose the countries based"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "on who watches the content the most. And"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "it has the future looks bright with the"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "country's flag. So having said that,"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "watch this video and then I'll tell you"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "what future looks bright gear we have"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "here for you. Go ahead, Rob."}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "down"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "the goal with a hat."}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:11", "text": ">> Portugal,"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "Mexico."}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:18", "text": ">> By the way, that's Iran with the old"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "plan."}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:25", "text": ">> Nice."}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:25", "text": ">> The shi flag of Muhammad Sha."}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "France"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "we"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "sit down."}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:41", "text": ">> And then you got a few other ones."}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:48", "text": ">> Who is this? This is Colombia."}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:48", "text": ">> Colia."}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "These things look and Argentina. You"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "know, people are dancing at home right"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "now in the car."}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:01", "text": ">> So, remember, it's not a big supply. If"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "you're watching this, you want to get"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "the shirt combination. This is the US"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "hat that we have with the US flag on the"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "lid with the soccer ball inside of it."}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "These things look absolutely insane. And"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "by the way, we didn't get a big supply"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "of them. Some of them, it's only 50."}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "Like the Iran one that we have with the"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "Shahan Shai flag on the bottom of it."}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "It's only 50. So, if some of you guys"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "are going to the game and you kind of"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "want to wear the hat because they're"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "saying you cannot wear the hat, Vinnie,"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "I don't know if I gave it to you or not."}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:28", "text": ">> No, I don't have that."}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:30", "text": ">> Do you have the Iran hat?"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:31", "text": ">> One more. I think it's the one."}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:34", "text": ">> This one here. I don't know which one it"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "is. One of these we have here. It looks"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "ridiculous the the way. There you go."}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "Look at this"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:41", "text": ">> on the bottom of the lid right there. I"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "love the fact that you have it. So,"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "Iran's it's only 50 of them. So, first"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "come first serve. If somebody buys 50,"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "it's literally going to say sold out."}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "And then you have all the other"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "countries and US. And then if you want"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "to combine it with the shirts, Rob, if"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "you want to go a little bit lower, it'll"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "go to Click on the Argentina one. View"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "all"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "go all the way to the top, Rob. Right"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "there, you have all of them together."}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "Shirts, hats, go a little bit lower. So"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "buy the hats with the shirts combined."}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "Future looks bright. This is not going"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "to last a long time. Represent your"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "country while you're representing the"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "future looks bright. If you enjoy this"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "video, you want to watch more videos"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "like this, click here. 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It's like, look, these"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "guys that were uh falsely arrested and"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "they did time and they're going through"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "the nasty last few years that they had,"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "you know, uh uh the president comes out"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "and says, \"Do you have that story, Rob,"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "about the amount of money they're trying"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "to help him out?\" And you know, Nome got"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "upset about it and he came out and he"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "said he vows to tax 100%"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "of tax on DOJ's anti-w weaponization"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "fund payout and it created a ton of"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "conversations. It was one of the main"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "stories on X. Gavin Newsome vowed"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "Wednesday to tax any payouts that"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "California residents received from the"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "1.776"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "billion dollar anti-weaponization fund"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "that Trump secured in a settlement with"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "his own justice department as Democratic"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "lawmakers and states across the country"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "ramp up efforts to counter the president"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "on the measure. Is this the one about uh"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "anyone from California that received any"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "of those funds? We want to tax 100% of"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "those pe those uh proceeds. Is that the"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "clip here, Rob? Is this the one about"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "the slush fund? Uh, I believe so. I"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "actually, hold on one second"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:16", "text": ">> because there there's a clip that he's"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "talking about. And Newsome's pledge"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "mirrors legislation unveiled earlier"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "this week in New York by Democrat Alex"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "Bors, a state assembly member and house"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "candidate that would assess a 100% tax"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "against payout from the fund. Trump"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "announced that the fund last week as"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "part of a $10 billion settlement with"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "the DOJ in his lawsuit against the IRS."}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "Democratic efforts to undercut any"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "payouts are picking up across the"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "country. Democratic state lawmaker in"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "New York are pushing for a vote by next"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "week to fully tax payouts from the fund."}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "Go forward, Rob. This is the clip."}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:50", "text": ">> Are you looking to take any action? Is"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "there anything you can do about that?"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:54", "text": ">> Well, I've been thinking a lot. I I'm"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "not in Congress. I was out there in"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "Washington DC trying to make a case a"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "new um some good meetings with EPA. Lee"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "Zeldon's a I don't want to get him"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "fired."}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:05", "text": ">> Look at this. be talking with Lee"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "Zelden,"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:11", "text": ">> but um you know there his team's working"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "hard um to see what we can do to help"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "the victims of last year's fires in Los"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "Angeles and"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:18", "text": ">> you know so I was up there around the"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "time when legislative leaders were all"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:21", "text": ">> you know"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:22", "text": ">> discussing what the options were and so"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "I've been thinking a lot about it in my"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "flight back and one thing that I think"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "we're going to try to do with your"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "support is uh tax 100% anyone from"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "California that receives any of those"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "funds. Uh we want to tax 100% of those"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "proceeds and that's an action the state"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "of California can take. It's an action"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "we look forward to taking."}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:47", "text": ">> Tom, thoughts on this."}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:49", "text": ">> Okay, so um did some research here and"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "Pat made a comment on X. I think it was"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "absolutely correct and and let me let me"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "go to a quick legal analysis."}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "So, a 100% tax that singles out"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "recipients of one specific federal fund"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "looks less like a tax and more like a"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "confiscation or a penalty under the"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "supremacy clause. Here we go. If a"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "federal court concludes that a tax at"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "the state level exist or was implemented"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "to obstruct, nullify, or frustrate a"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "federal settlement program or other"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "federal program, it will likely be"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "struck down in the appellet courts as"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "interfering with the federal function."}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "That's that's a supremacy clause. And"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "everybody can argue about it and get on"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "a soap box, and I just made my argument"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "from my side. But you know what? Listen"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "to what Gavin Newsome said. He's a very"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "clever guy. The first thing he said, \"I"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "don't want to get Lee Zeldon fired.\" So"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "he's he's intimating that maybe Lee"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "Zeldon was cooperating with him or doing"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "something. I don't want to get Lee"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "Zeldon fired. As if being nice or"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "working with Newsome on something would"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "get Lee fired. That's just kind of what"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "he was floating out there, which I think"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "is just very clever. But the other part,"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "Pat, is it a true statement that this is"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "an act action that California can take?"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "Yes, it is. Is it an equally true"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "statement that that action can get shut"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "down shut down and reversed at the by"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "the appellet court very quickly? That's"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "also a true statement. So, I'm I'm"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "listening very carefully to how he uses"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "his words. So, California can try, but"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "many legal scholars, a legal analysis I"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "found, would say, listen, you're"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "pointing your tax at the recipients of"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "the federal on a onetoone basis. You're"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "retaliating. You're trying to cancel"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "federal programs, supremacy clause,"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "federal over state. Sorry dude. Rob,"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "pull up supremacy clause. Pull up. What"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "is the supremacy clause?"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "What is the supremacy clause? Okay, so"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "supremacy clause the foundation US"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "constitutional principle that the"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "federal constitution the federal laws"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "are the supreme law of the land located"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "in article I want to say that six clause"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "two of the constitution. It mandates"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "that federal law takes precedence over"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "any conflicting state or local laws. the"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "hierarchy, US Constitution, federal"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "statutes, and the international treaty"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "sit at the top of the legal pyramid,"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "state constitution, state laws, and the"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "local ordinance must yield to the"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "federal authority. So when he's coming"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "out and saying this, and by the way, my"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "tweet, if you want to go up to the"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "tweet, Rob, on what I said to Nuisance"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "Camp right there, I said, you ever heard"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "of supremacy clause, Gavin Newsome, it's"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "as if you wish you were a king. These"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "guys really want to be a king where they"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "can do things that democracies can. If"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "you want to go back to their response"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "because and then they responded back and"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "said California will tax J6 cop beaters."}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "Cry harder Patrick. That's Gavin"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "Newsome's official office. Then if you"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "want to go back to my next tweet, Rob."}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:46", "text": ">> And then I responded back and I said uh"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "says the biggest crybaby in politics."}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "You go down as the worst governor in the"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "state of California ever hurt ever had."}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "You can't hide from your failed resumes."}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "If you want to go to the comment section"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "there, they responded. You know what"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "they said? Click on that. They responded"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "with, \"Okay.\" And I said, \"I'm glad you"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "validated it.\""}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:04", "text": ">> So, you know, I'm glad they validated it"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "with"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:07", "text": ">> That's all they came back with."}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:08", "text": ">> Go back. That's all they came back with."}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "Okay. Now, if you want to go back, Rob,"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "to one more tweet. Go back one more if"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "you can to the top. Keep going. This is"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "the one. Cuz the guys kept responding."}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "One guy on the bottom said, \"Doesn't"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "California beat Republican elite states"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "in vast majority of major metrics?\" I"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "said, \"Yes, it does. It beats them in"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "homelessness, fraud, wasting a hundred"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "billion dollar surplus.\" I think the"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "number was 95 billion to be exact."}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "Correct. Losing a trillion dollars of"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "wealth twice in 5 years. Negative net"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "migration, illegal immigration, high gas"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "price, highest gas prices, highest"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "taxes, wildfires. And I said, listen, I"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "gave him a shout out. Gavin Newsome is"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "crushing it. So people need to realize"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "this guy's fighting to be your"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "president. And by the way, you know what"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "else he said? Rob, if you want to play"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "the clip about wealth taxes, this is the"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "one that nobody said was with Professor"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "Galloway where he's sitting down with"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "him and he says, \"Hey, this wealth tax"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "idea may be so good I may want to take"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "it national.\" Go ahead, Rob."}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:05", "text": ">> I absolutely believe nationally uh we"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "need to tax billionaires more. We need"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "to change the stepped up basis. We need"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "to address the issue of capital gains."}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "We need to address the issue of"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "corporate taxes. We need to address uh"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "and you've talked a lot about this, the"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "84.4 four trillion to to I've seen some"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "estimates over $124 trillion of"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "generational wealth over the next decade"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "and a half, two decades that will pass"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "uh and address the issue of inheritance"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "dynasty trusts. Um and and going back to"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "some tax brackets uh that are more, you"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "know, analogous to the guy who used to"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "reside here at the governor's mansion um"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "uh back in in the 80s or at least in the"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "60s as governor and president in the"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "80s. And so we we need to do all of"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "those things at the same time at the"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "state level. I'm proud of this. I don't"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "defend it from a defensive posture. I"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "spent good 15 minutes at my state of the"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "state earlier this year making the case"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "for California's progressive tax"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "structure. Um we yes have the highest"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "tax rate for the 1%. Um but by"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "definition"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "people don't pay that rate. So people"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "lazily refer to California as a high tax"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "state when in fact states like Texas and"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "Florida tax their low wage earners more"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "than we tax our high wage earners. Yet"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "they're considered low tax states which"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "is rather perverse and slimy comparison."}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "Alert alert alert. Go ahead."}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:31", "text": ">> So he's trying to say by the way there"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "is no income tax in Texas. So he's"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "saying they tax their low wage earners"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "more than we tax our high wage earner."}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "He is making a a a discontinuitous"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "comparison. This is what he's doing,"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "Vinnie. He's he's looking at sales tax."}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "He's looking at tax on license plates."}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "He's looking at property taxes. And he's"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "trying to say that in Texas that will be"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "more than 13%. Because you do pay taxes"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "on things when you buy them. But he's"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "saying they tax their low wage earners"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "more than we tax the 13% or high wage"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "earners. That is an absolute salacious"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "comparison. It's absolutely fake and"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "false. Word talk, number scream. And"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "those words talk, but those numbers"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "scream false. That is absolutely wrong."}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "Capital gains he's talking about."}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "Vinnie, you have $175,000"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "because you did well. You pay 40% tax on"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "that. Now you have a h 100,000 net. Has"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "that 100,000 been taxed? Yes, it has."}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "Yes. And you worked hard for it and it"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "was 175. Now it's 100. You take the"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "100,000, you put it into a company. You"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "build it up and four years later you"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "sell that little company to dry cleaners"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "that you had for $1 million."}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:42", "text": ">> So you turned the 100,000 into a"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "million. But the hundred,000 you had"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "already worked hard for that and been"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "tacked and that was what in your hand"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:47", "text": ">> that should not be touched."}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:49", "text": ">> So guess what"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:52", "text": ">> the Republicans pushed up. That's"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "capital. You gained on that capital by"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "investing it in something good. So you"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "should pay capital gains which was only"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "20% until Obama got involved. Put"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "another 3% on top of it."}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:04", "text": ">> Good job. So that's less than the 40%."}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "So when he talks about capital gains,"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "he's talking about higher taxes on money"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "that's already been taxed that was put"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "to work building a company establishing"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "jobs. And the Republicans said, \"Time"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "out.\" There has been a growth in that."}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "So the tax, but the capital gain tax"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "should be less than the regular income"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "tax of 40%. Come on, guys. Let's help"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "the entrepreneurs do things. Let's help"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "people. And by the way, the same thing"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "applies to your house. You're owning"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "your house over time and it's capital"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "gains. You see that? And so this last"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "little bit with Galloway, man, why isn't"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "there a real time truth detector on a"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "call out on this?"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:45", "text": ">> Yeah, I'm I I didn't watch the whole"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "thing, so I don't want to hold Galloway"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "accountable because he may have asked"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "the question. I'm not talking about"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "Scott."}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:53", "text": ">> Yeah, he knows what things to ask him."}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "Uh but here's when probably the most uh"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "the best analysis done on Newsome's"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "ideas is by Scott Besson. It's very"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "technical and he does it in two seconds."}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "So go ahead."}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:06", "text": ">> Anti-weaponization fund. Your response"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "to the governor's call from"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:11", "text": ">> there's no cure for stupid."}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:13", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:15", "text": ">> You just got you just got to love him."}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "So uh Adam, your thoughts take classes"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "from Scott."}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:18", "text": ">> Your thoughts on this?"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:21", "text": ">> Look, I agree with Tom and I agree with"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "the Scott Bessant. Uh what I've realized"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "and I had to learn this myself and this"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "is the state of Florida is Democrats"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "love taxes. They they they love taxing"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "people. Tom said that you have income"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "tax, you have uh uh employment tax, you"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "have property tax, you have gas tax, you"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "have estate tax, you have s we're"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "already getting taxed so much and now"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "they want to tax you more and tax you up"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "the wazoo."}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:51", "text": ">> What's the famous shirt that uh AOC wore"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "to the Metball? Tax the rich. This is"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "their game plan. Their entire game plan."}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:56", "text": ">> The white dress, I think."}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:58", "text": ">> Yeah, exactly. This is their entire game"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "plan. They're not even hiding it, guys."}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "By the way, and I I I I don't want to"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "say this too much. The 1% or the 0.01%"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "already pay 50% of the taxes for the"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "whole country."}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:09", "text": ">> They want more. Adam,"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:11", "text": ">> what I want to do, and I'm going to"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "continue to do this, I just want to"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "thank you, Gavin Newsome. I want to"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "thank you, Zoran, Mom, Donnie, for"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "bringing everybody to Florida."}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:19", "text": ">> Oh, God. Here we go."}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:20", "text": ">> Everybody's coming here."}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:22", "text": ">> No, I don't want that."}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:23", "text": ">> Well, it does. But Vinnie, you moved"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "here, guy. You don't really have"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:25", "text": ">> I know. want to keep let's bring let's"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "bring more"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:28", "text": ">> I'm born and raised in Miami I can tell"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "you get out of here"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:31", "text": ">> more well you don't drive you don't have"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "a car so you don't even stop inviting"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:34", "text": ">> my point is I I appreciate all their"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "policies everyone thinks it as a"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "negative"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:41", "text": ">> I Zoron Mandani is the best poster child"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "for moving to Miami and then just flip"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "it because who's the governor uh that"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "would be the antithesis or the antonym"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "as Pat said to Gavin Newsome is our"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "amazing governor in Florida Governor"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "Ronda Santis who's now saying we have"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "such a budget surplus less in the state"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "that they're talking about eliminating"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "the property tax in Florida because it"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "goes to local"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:02", "text": ">> for long-term residents which would"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "include the elderly."}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:06", "text": ">> Bingo. So, at the end of the day, they"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "just want to tax you and tax you and tax"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "you. And one thing we know, you can't"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "tax your way to prosperity."}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:13", "text": ">> Well, that after hearing Gavin Newsome"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "Pat, that right there is why somebody"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "like Peter Teal gets on a plane and"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "flies there and moves his entire family."}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "And the whole other What do you mean?"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "This is the attitude of where the"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "country is going. Don't By the way,"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "Adam, he's talking and he made a great"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "point. He's talking as he's going to be"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "the president. This is a national thing."}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "And the email has gone out to the"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "Democratic party. It's this whole"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "communist open border illegals taxing"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "and all this. And Pat, mind you, this"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "$1.776 billion fund is the"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "anti-weaponization fund. It's a"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "settlement that Trump is basically"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "saying, \"Hey, we were suing the IRS and"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "the Department of Justice for 10"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "billion.\" He goes, \"I'm going to drop"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "it. I don't I don't want anything for"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "myself. This is going to go towards"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "people that are getting wrongfully"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "accused and targeted by the freaking"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "government and the IRS. And I absolutely"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "love it. It's not just January 6ers,"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "Pat. It's anybody, mind you, if you're"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "in the capital beating up cops, go to"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "jail. This doesn't apply to you. They"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "even said it um in this article that I"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "read. It's for people that are getting"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "targeted, the victims of of"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "politicization and weaponization from"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "the government. Okay? If any other"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "place, Pat, people go after you the way"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "that the government does, you get to sue"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "them. Defamation, all that type of"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "stuff. Why? Why should it be different"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "for the government? I absolutely love"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "that he's doing it and Gavin Newsome is"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "the epitome of what's wrong with this"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "freaking country."}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:26", "text": ">> You got to pay for all the fraud that in"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "California."}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:29", "text": ">> Have you ever covered how much the gas"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "tax is in California versus"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:32", "text": ">> 71 cents? 71."}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:33", "text": ">> You know about this, right? Of course. I"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "I did some research on this. There's a"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "federal, you know, cuz Pat"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:38", "text": ">> Adam, I'd like to go to I just want to"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "go to next door. Yeah. The gas tax are"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "71 cents. Uh go higher than"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:44", "text": ">> California is the highest night and day"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "from Crazy. You're right. There's a big"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "game coming up around the corner. I"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "think nine of them are going to be in"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "Dallas. We were at a hotel yesterday."}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "Everything was about the the the World"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "Soccer tournament that's coming out that"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "everybody's going to be watching. You"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "know, Neymar, Messi, yesterday they"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "announced Messi's going into a six World"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "Cup. I don't know if you saw that. It's"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "going to be crazy. It's going to be a"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "big tournament that they're having."}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:07", "text": ">> And so, while you're going through that,"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "depending on the countries you're from,"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "we have some special gear that is"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "limited. There's not a big supply of"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "them. And we chose the countries based"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "on who watches the content the most and"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "it has the future looks bright with the"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "country's flag. So having said that,"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "watch this video and then I'll tell you"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "what future looks bright gear we have"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "here for you. Go ahead Rob."}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "down"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "to go with a handle"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "down"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "Mexico."}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:54", "text": ">> By the way, that's Iran with the old"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "planet."}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:16:00", "text": ">> Nice. The shi flag of Muhammad Sha"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "France."}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "Sedan."}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:16", "text": ">> And then we got a few other ones."}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:23", "text": ">> Who is this? This is Colombia."}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:23", "text": ">> Colia."}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "These things look and Argentina."}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:33", "text": ">> You know, people are dancing at home"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "right now in the car."}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "So remember, it's not a big supply. If"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "you're watching this, you want to get"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "the shirt combination. This is the US"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "hat that we have with the US flag on the"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "lid with the soccer ball inside of it."}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "These things look absolutely insane. And"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "by the way, we didn't get a big supply"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "of them. Some of them, it's only 50."}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "Like the Iran one that we have with the"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "Shahan Shai flag on the bottom of it."}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "It's only 50. So, if some of you guys"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "are going to the game and you kind of"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "want to wear the hat because they're"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "saying you cannot wear the hat, Vinnie,"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "I don't know if I gave it to you or not."}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:04", "text": ">> No, I don't have that."}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:05", "text": ">> Do you have the Iran hat?"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:07", "text": ">> One more. I think it's the one."}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:10", "text": ">> This one here. I don't know which one it"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "is. One of these we have here. It looks"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "ridiculous the the way. There you go."}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "Look at this"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:16", "text": ">> on the bottom of the lid right there. I"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "love the fact that you have it. So,"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:20", "text": ">> Iran's it's only 50 of them. So, first"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "come, first serve. If somebody buys 50,"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "it's literally going to say sold out."}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "And then you have all the other"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "countries and US. And then if you want"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "to combine it with the shirts, Rob, if"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "you want to go a little bit lower, it'll"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "go to Click on the Argentina one. View"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "all"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "go all the way to the top, Rob. Right"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "there, you have all of them together."}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "Shirts, hats, go a little bit lower. So"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "buy the hats with the shirts combined."}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "Future looks bright. This is not going"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "to last a long time. Represent your"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "country while you're representing the"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "future looks bright. If you enjoyed this"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "video, you want to watch more videos"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "like this, click here. And if you want"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "to watch the entire podcast, click here."}]

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What"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "has not been negotiated if they pursue"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "with the 60-day is the sanctioned relief"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "money, the $24 billion or so, the Iran"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "missile drone program, Lebanon Hezbollah"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "uh linkage and Abraham Accord linkage."}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "So the enriched uranium is not part of"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "this first 60-day ceasefire. I don't"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "like this idea of doing this and signing"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "this and they're waiting on the"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "president to sign it while you don't"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "have it. And the president said"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "something very important yesterday when"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "he was asked about it. He says, \"Who who"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "should get that enriched uranium?\" Are"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "you okay if China or Russia get it, Rob?"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "Do you have that clip?"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:00", "text": ">> Yep. Go for it."}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:01", "text": ">> Or China taking their stockpile of"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "highlyenriched uranium and have they"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "offered to"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:07", "text": ">> No, I wouldn't be comfortable."}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:10", "text": ">> That would not make me comfortable."}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:11", "text": ">> Okay. So, he said that and then there's"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "a bunch of other things that's going on"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "with this year. A Rob, which one is"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "this?"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:16", "text": ">> Uh, this is where the president talks"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "about reopening the straight of Hormuz"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "and who would control it."}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:19", "text": ">> Go for it."}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:21", "text": ">> Iran wants control of the straight"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "hormuz. Would you accept a short-term"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "deal that allows Iran and Oman to"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "control the strait? And would they have"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "to open it immediately, or would you be"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "open to that happening over a period of"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "time?"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:31", "text": ">> No. The strait's going to be open to"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "everybody. It's uh"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:34", "text": ">> And who would control it?"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:35", "text": ">> It's international waters. Nobody's"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "going to control it. We're going to"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "watch over it. We'll watch over it, but"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "nobody's going to control it. That's"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "part of the negotiation that we have."}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "They would like to control it. Nobody's"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "going to control it. It's international"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "waters, and Oman will behave just like"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "everybody else. We'll have to blow them"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "up. They understand that. That'll be"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "fine."}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:54", "text": ">> Allies."}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:56", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That that's the part"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "where a lot of people are saying bombing"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "US ally sparks confusion in the wild"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "cabinet meeting. Tom, your thoughts on"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "the story?"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:07", "text": ">> I I don't know what to say. Only two"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "ships made it in the last 24 hours. Uh"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "about 12 ships made it two days ago."}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "It's still meager. People have got oil"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "supplies in dwindling everywhere."}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "Reserves are down even for the US. And"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "so this this needs to get done, but it"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "just seems like um we're we're almost"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "there yet again. We're almost yet again."}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "Uh that's what it feels like, Pat. And I"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "want to give negotiators room to"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "negotiate and go get it done. Oil's"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "down$150"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "this morning, uh 87. So clearly the"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "markets feel we're close to something."}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "Stock market is up another half a"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "percent across the indexes today. Dow,"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "S&P, NASDAQ all about a half a percent"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "up, Pat."}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "So the markets clearly believe in"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "perception that we're getting there,"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "that we're getting close to."}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:56", "text": ">> By the way, news just broke right now"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "that US Iran peace deal reportedly"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "includes a $300 billion reconstruction"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "fund for Iran per New York Times. Kowi"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "just tweeted this."}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:05", "text": ">> Who's going to pay for that?"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:07", "text": ">> Exactly the the question. So $300"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "billion right there, Rob. Do you have"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "it? $300 billion. Uh go to news. See if"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "news pops up. Go to the news side."}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:17", "text": ">> Hang on. Let's do a seance for the ghost"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "of uh you know who and see if"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "Hallebertton gets the deal."}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:23", "text": ">> There it is. The story of New York"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "Times. So $300 billion. So uh Vinnie,"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "where you at with this?"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:28", "text": ">> I'm just Pat. I'm so over it. I don't"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "want to waste that much time. I'm done."}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "I'm done."}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:31", "text": ">> You're over it?"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:33", "text": ">> Yeah. I'm just every day it's like it's"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "like a parent coming home, PAT GOING,"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "\"GUYS, WE'RE GOING TO GO TO DISNEYLAND.\""}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "And they go, \"Okay, not not today. We're"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "going to go next."}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:38", "text": ">> If you clean your room up, not cleaning"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "up."}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:40", "text": ">> Not clean up.\" And I'm like, \"Bro, I"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "don't I don't even want to go at this"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "point. I don't want to go to Disney.\""}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:43", "text": ">> I don't think you're alone, by the way."}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "I honestly don't think you're alone. I"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "think a lot of people are where you are"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "right now."}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:48", "text": ">> But the reason you feel that way is"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "because it's not affecting your life at"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "all other than a couple bucks in gas,"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "which I appreciate."}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:53", "text": ">> No. What do you mean it's not affecting"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "me? I'm I'm saying every day it's like"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "we're going to do this, Adam."}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:00", "text": ">> I'm I'm not It's not It's not that it's"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "not obviously it's affecting everybody,"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "but it's like"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:04", "text": ">> I have friends and family everywhere"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "about the economy. You're negotiating"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "with I want to help."}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:08", "text": ">> You're negotiating with people."}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:09", "text": ">> Let's have see what Adam wants. Adam,"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "you're go ahead. Make my point."}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:12", "text": ">> No, I'm making a point because you were"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "wrong what you said. We're negotiating"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "with a regime, Adam, that kills its own"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "people, that says they want to kill us,"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "and we're going back and forth. Do you"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "think it's ever going to become like,"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "you know, he made a great point on"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "Monday? They're celebrating. You know"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "what Iran is doing right now?"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:28", "text": ">> Weren't you the guy that said you didn't"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "want to talk about this 10 seconds ago?"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:31", "text": ">> No, but but you but I'm responding to"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "your comment. I'm responding to your"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "comment because you said, \"Oh, I know it"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "doesn't affect your life.\" What do you"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "mean it doesn't affect my life? I'm just"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "tired of hearing this. Yes or no? Just"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "come to us with the news. come with us"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "when it's done because this whole"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "everybody's tired of it. Everybody's"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "tired of it."}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:47", "text": ">> It's not just me. Trust me, it's a lot"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "of people."}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:49", "text": ">> Well, you made your point. I'm proud of"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "you, brother."}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:51", "text": ">> Thank you."}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:53", "text": ">> Uh what I meant by it's not affecting"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "your life is if you don't turn on the"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "news, this doesn't affect your life. I"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "was at Memorial Day last week. Uh the"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "city of Miami Beach put together this"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "amazing event, which I think Value Tammy"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "should consider doing a part of it. It"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "was so incredible. They had the Blue"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "Angels and the pilots and everything."}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "And these planes, let me tell you"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "something, are the loudest things you've"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "ever seen in your life. You ever I mean,"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "we we're right here. And I said to the"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "guy, I go, \"Thank God we're watching"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "this with so much joy and patriotism and"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "love for the country because these"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "planes,"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:23", "text": ">> you know, these things are flying over"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "our head, they're actually used in other"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "countries to drop bombs and scare the"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "hell out of people.\" So, when I said"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "it's not affecting your life, I mean,"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "thank God we have the luxury of living"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "in America. And the worst that we're"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "dealing with right now are some e extra"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "couple bucks in gas prices, which I get"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "it. But the fact that these planes are"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "being used to basically don't make us go"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "back to epic fury. Right now, we're in"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "economic fury. And ultimately, this"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "comes down to three major points. And I"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "think Nuke Gingri actually put together"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "a little plan that Trump he says number"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "one, number one, number one is no"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "nuclear. Stop it. It's not happening. If"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "that's not included in the deal, we're"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "done here. Number two with that because"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "if even the 60 days you sign without"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "that"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:04", "text": ">> there's no deal without the nuclear"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "component."}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:09", "text": ">> No. By the way, even forget about all"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "the the argument where you know you're"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "doing it for this, you're doing it for"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "the Iranian people, you're the puppet,"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "you're the this. If you do it in the"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "original deal without the enriched"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "uranium,"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:23", "text": ">> you mean to tell me you trust that Iran"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "in the next 60 days, you're giving them"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "more time to do whatever they want. No,"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "no, no. Nothing happens without that"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "being number one. Period. I hope the"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "president doesn't sign it."}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:32", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:33", "text": ">> Without the enriched uranium being"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "lifted out of there."}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:37", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:39", "text": ">> By us by US and that would be a"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "celebration. Then you can go and talk"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "about all the other stuff."}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:44", "text": ">> Yeah. It's it's a non-starter without"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:45", "text": ">> the reason why that is happening Adam is"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "because the world is putting a lot of"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "pressure on the straight of Hormuz being"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "open. So the straight of hormones impact"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "economy, the world economy, the global"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "economy, but the the enriched uranium"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "impacts his reputation of who negotiate"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "the terms better."}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:01", "text": ">> So to me those are two different"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "audiences too. Please win over"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:03", "text": ">> I fully agree with you and and"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "ultimately what I was saying there was"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "three major components here. Number one"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "was no nuclear which were on the same"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "page I believe."}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:13", "text": ">> Number two is stop funding terrorism"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "with money and missiles. Stop. Like"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "we're not doing this. And we'll talk"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "about economy in a sec. And the number"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "three, like you said, is the Hormuz"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "issue. And he said it's international"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "waters. No one's going to control it."}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "But I'll ask you this, Pat."}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "If they end up Iran doing the deal,"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "you're a great negotiator, businessman."}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "They do the deal. What Iran is going to"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "get is one thing, money or sanctions"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "relief. We ask where all the billions"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "are coming from. It's going to come from"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "all the sanctions and economic ties to"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "basically putting uh Iran as a as a the"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "smelly kid on the playground, what I"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "call him. But I'll ask you this. Ready?"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "When they do this deal,"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:50", "text": ">> do you trust that they're actually going"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "to follow through with the deal? Iran, I"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "don't. But the bigger question is this."}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "When they get this whatever, however"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "many hundred billion,"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:58", "text": ">> $300 billion dollars,"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:01", "text": ">> what are the chances that they're going"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "to use it to improve the lives of"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "everyday Iranians? I think zero. Why?"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "Because there's one piece of evidence at"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "pointing that they'll never do this. Cuz"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "they'll kill you if you speak out."}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:12", "text": ">> So you're asking a regime to basically"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "intake all this money?"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:15", "text": ">> There there was no question there. So"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "what's your point? So my point is this."}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "Do you trust the Iranian regime to"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "actually use this money to help the"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "people of Iran?"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:21", "text": ">> Yeah, of course the answer is no."}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:23", "text": ">> Okay,"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:25", "text": ">> you don't trust it. Of course you. But"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "but guys, let's let's let's not get it"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "twisted."}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:29", "text": ">> As a pre as a leader who got elected to"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "be the president,"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:32", "text": ">> Donald J. Trump."}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:33", "text": ">> And who gets to make the final decision?"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "Donald J. Trump."}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:36", "text": ">> He does. And and who has more"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "information than anybody else in him."}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "And with that he has decided that regime"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "collapse and regime change is not on the"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "table and it's not important to him."}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:46", "text": ">> Correct."}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:49", "text": ">> He has decided that yes"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:51", "text": ">> others who came and encouraged people to"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "go out there and protest and be in the"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "streets who were slaughtered who said"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "they had access to military leaders that"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "are flipping they ought to be held"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "accountable for it. Cuz you claim"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "military leaders were flipping and you"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "had nobody. And I'm talking about Resza"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "Palab."}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:06", "text": ">> Yeah. I noticed that. That right there"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "is something that will be held"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "accountable to me. He has sat there and"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "said um this is not a top issue for me."}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "I didn't campaign on this. I will get"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "rid of the enriched uranium and I will"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "open up the straight of Hormuz and we"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "will take it from there. And by the way,"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "he forced the position where the"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "internet blackout in Iran, which Iran's"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "president ends the internet blackout"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "orders access to be restored. And so"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "imagine for how long Iranians have been"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "wanting to show their country what's"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "going on. It's been officially lifted."}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "Peshkan came out on Monday, restored the"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "international internet access after"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "90-day blackout. The decree aimed at"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "restoring internet access to the pre-"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "January state was communicated to the"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "Ministry of Communication by the"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "president. Iran's news agency says uh"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "and so for the past five months"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "officials in Iran have carried out"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "executions of individuals allegedly"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "involved in planning, facilitating, and"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "supporting demonstrations. It's now 87"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "consecutive days, that's the day I was"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "saying, of Iran's internet blackout,"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "which has been in place for over 264"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "hours. Netblocks, a Londonbased internet"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "watch organization, says the measure has"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "eliminated any transparency. So, you"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "know why this is important to me?"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:23", "text": ">> Tell me. because now is the Iranian"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "people. I hope they're sharing what's"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "going on in there and that's going to"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "get the negotiation to be a little bit"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "chappy because if Iranians all of a"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "sudden coming out saying, \"Hey, what are"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "we doing with this negotiation? We don't"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "trust these guys. Why are we doing"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "this?\" Or if they don't, that's going to"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "be a little bit of inventory of"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "knowledge that we need to see what what"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "they're independently going through. But"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "for me, I think if the president at all"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "is going to be thinking about, you know,"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "how to go about this, I I wouldn't do"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "without the enrichment. I'm sure it's"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "not as easy as, well, it's easy for you"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "to say we got to go find a way to get it"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "out. We need to get these people out"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "there. We need to do this. I totally get"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "that. The logistics are the logistics,"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "but if a deal comes out going into the"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "World Cup, hey, we did the deal, but we"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "left in rich uranium. I don't think like"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "that. Can I ask you one followup? I know"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "you want to move on. And"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "what you basically said to Crown Prince"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "Resa Palvie is a lot of the people that"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "went out and protested and gave their"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "life for this cause. Some of that is on"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "his his dime, his watch. That's kind of"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "how I interpreted that."}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:28", "text": ">> Of course, it was very thorough. I was"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "very clear about it. Of course, it is."}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "Because if I if I tell you, Adam, right"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "now, trust me, I need you to go protest"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "because I got the governor showing up"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "and I got the military leaders showing"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "up and I got these people showing up."}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "You say, \"Okay, Pat, I trust you.\" I go"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "out there one week, two weeks, three of"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "your guys get killed, Pat. So, six"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "weeks, seven weeks, 40 of your guys get"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "killed. And you're like, \"Where's the"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "military lead? Where's the governor?\""}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "Uh, you I changed my mind."}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:59", "text": ">> My cousin's coming. You can't do that."}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "last question."}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:02", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:04", "text": ">> Uh what are the chances that Sha Raza"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "and Trump are even communicating at this"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "point?"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:08", "text": ">> No, it's it's not if he if he if it did."}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "Look, he's not a Sha by the way. He's"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "just a regular guy. He's not even a"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "crown prince because he is the son of"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "the Sha."}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:16", "text": ">> Got it."}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:18", "text": ">> So if he wants to be a monarchist, then"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "he can claim he's a crown prince, but he"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "claims he's not a monarchist. So make a"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "decision who you are and what you want"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "to do."}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "If he was, how many times like what have"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "you heard the president say about"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "Netanyahu? What words does he use?"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:35", "text": ">> He said he'll do whatever he wants me to"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "do. It's literally"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:38", "text": ">> Is he complimentary of him?"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:40", "text": ">> When pretty much."}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:41", "text": ">> Is he complimentary of Xi?"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:43", "text": ">> He does. Says he's a friend."}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:44", "text": ">> Is he complimentary of Putin?"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:45", "text": ">> He's sometimes he says he's"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "disappointed."}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:47", "text": ">> Tell me who else he's complimentary of."}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "World leaders."}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:51", "text": ">> Well, I I got to be honest with you."}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "Trump is way more diplomatic this time"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "around. So even if it's like an enemy"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "like she he's a great guy."}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:58", "text": ">> You think that if by the way"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:00", "text": ">> do you how many endorsements out of"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "endorsements did he get? 119 out of 119"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "or 118 out of 18 flawless."}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:05", "text": ">> He went he went undefeated."}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:07", "text": ">> Why hasn't he come out and said"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "something hardcore supportive?"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:10", "text": ">> That's what I'm wondering."}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:12", "text": ">> But that's the point. If if a person"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "doesn't don't wonder it's an answer."}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:16", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:19", "text": ">> A non-endorsement is a endorsement is a"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "is a form of a statement that a person's"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "making. So why"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:22", "text": ">> it's deafening?"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:24", "text": ">> It is. And so the the the market can get"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "upset. By the way, I'm telling you right"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "now, sir,"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:29", "text": ">> watch"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "watch what's going to happen with the"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "level of hate the monarchists are going"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "to have towards Trump and they're going"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "to put the entire thing on him, not on"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "anybody else. Just wait. Remember, wait."}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "We're going to walk the streets when we"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "go to certain places, okay?"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:44", "text": ">> And monarchists are going to pull up."}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "It's 50/50."}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:47", "text": ">> They'll come up and say, \"By the way,"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "privately, I agree with you. I wish you"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "would have a little bit more of a"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "backbone.\" Okay? I'll I'll share a"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "message, a few of them I just got today,"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "this morning. But you know, some of"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "them, why are you It's unfair. Why are"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "you doing this? No, no, it's it's not"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "unfair. I sat this one out for him to"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "get the job done. And what happened?"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "That's on your guy, not anybody else's"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "guy. So, you either you're going to do"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "it or you're not going to do it. You"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "mean to tell me you couldn't get in"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "front of the president to get"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "endorsement? They're pretty accessible."}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "This is the most successful"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "administration you've ever had."}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:15", "text": ">> The most not like you don't have an"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "accessible administration and it has"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "done 119 people. making a prediction."}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "Just watch. They're going to blame the"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "president on this."}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:30", "text": ">> They're going to blame the president on"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "this. American Persians, American pro-"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "res uh monarchists who want to fantasize"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "with it going back to where it was,"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "which I don't blame them because I"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "fantasize with Muhammad Resa Pali. I"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "have a flipping painting in my house of"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "him."}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:49", "text": ">> I have all this any magazine he was ever"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "on the cover of, I have it in my house."}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "I have coins that was given by him to"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "people in my safe. I have gold stuff"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "that it was from. I had his paper, the"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "letter cutter that he had, a gift was"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "given to me. That's the painting I get"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "criticized for. And look who's sitting"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "right in the middle of this painting."}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "It's not like I put anybody else in the"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "middle of the painting. He's in the"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "middle of it. Why do you think he's"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "sitting at the middle of it? There's a"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "reason for it. When I was born, he was"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "the king of Iran for 3 months and then"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "he was in exile and then Kumeni came. So"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "the last time Iran was great and the"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "Middle East was safe was him was him."}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:25", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:26", "text": ">> But to assume automatically that the son"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "is him and he's been living in America"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "for 47 years. They they have to"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "restrategize and move on."}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:34", "text": ">> It sounds like you're a monarchist just"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "not for the son."}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:38", "text": ">> I I am. Let me let me state what I am."}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "I'm not a monarchist. I'm a capitalist."}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "I'm a republic. I'm how America was"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "built. I'm for America 100%. Right? But"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "if I look back and say when was the last"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "time Iran was at peace and the Middle"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "East was at peace was when Muhammad Resi"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "was the leader of Iran. Okay? You you"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "can go up and say, \"Well, Savak this,"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "Savak that.\" No problem. Everybody has a"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "Savvak. Our Savvak is CIA. UK Savvak is"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "MI6. And trust me, MI6 has a nasty"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "history cuz they trained everybody. The"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "OG Savvak is MI6. The MSAD, all these"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "other guys you want to talk about, they"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "have their own thing. The KG, you can go"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "and talk about a lot of these different"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "systems on how it is. But I I want to"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "get to the next story that we have here."}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "So that's that. My my truly my prayers"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "are for Iranian people because I would"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "love to be able to go back and visit"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "Iran. And I don't think the odds went"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "up. Uh I don't think the odds went up,"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "but uh my prayers uh with the Iranian"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "people behind closed doors, they have to"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "find a way to rally behind somebody that"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "they can make some movements happen. Uh"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "this lowered the odds for them. This is"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "the closest they have come for 47 years."}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "And so we'll see. Now, there's a big"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "game coming up around the corner. I"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "think nine of them are going to be in"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "Dallas. We were at a hotel yesterday."}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "Everything was about the the the world"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "soccer tournament that's coming out that"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "everybody's going to be watching. You"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "know, Neymar, Messi, yesterday they"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "announced Messi's going into a six World"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "Cup. I don't know if you saw that. It's"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "going to be crazy. It's going to be a"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "big tournament that they're having."}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:16", "text": ">> And so, while you're going through that,"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "depending on the countries you're from,"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "we have some special gear that is"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "limited. There's not a big supply of"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "them. And we chose the countries based"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "on who watches the content the most. and"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "it has the future looks bright with the"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "country's flag. So, having said that,"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "watch this video and then I'll tell you"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "what future looks bright gear we have"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "here for you. Go ahead, Rob."}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "Nice"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "to go with a hat on"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:54", "text": ">> Portugal,"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:17:58", "text": ">> MEXICO."}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:02", "text": ">> By the way, that's Iran with the old"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "plan."}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:08", "text": ">> Nice. The shi flag of Muhammad Sha"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "France."}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "IS IT DONE?"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:25", "text": ">> And then we got a few other ones."}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:31", "text": ">> Who is this? This is Colombia."}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:31", "text": ">> Colia."}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:37", "text": ">> These things look and Argentina."}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:40", "text": ">> You know, people are dancing at home"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "right now."}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "So remember, it's not a big supply. If"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "you're watching this, you want to get"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "the shirt combination. This is the US"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "hat that we have with the US flag on the"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "lid with the soccer ball inside of it."}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "These things look absolutely insane. And"}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "by the way, we didn't get a big supply"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "of them. Some of them it's only 50. Like"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "the Iran one that we have with the"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "Shahan Shai flag on the bottom of it."}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "It's only 50. So, if some of you guys"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "are going to the game and you kind of"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "want to wear the hat because they're"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "saying you cannot wear the hat, Vinnie,"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "I don't know if I gave it to you or not."}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:12", "text": ">> No, I don't have that."}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:13", "text": ">> Do you have the Iran hat?"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:15", "text": ">> One more. I think it's the one."}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:18", "text": ">> This one here. I don't know which one it"}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "is. One of these we have here. It looks"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "ridiculous the the way. There you go."}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "Look at this"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:24", "text": ">> on the bottom of the lid right there. I"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "love the fact that you have it. So,"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:28", "text": ">> Iran's it's only 50 of them. So, first"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "come, first serve. If somebody buys 50,"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "it's literally going to say sold out."}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "And then you have all the other"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "countries and US. And then if you want"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "to combine it with the shirts, Rob, if"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "you want to go a little bit lower, it'll"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "go to Click on the Argentina one. View"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "all"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "go all the way to the top, Rob. Right"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "there, you have all of them together."}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "Shirts, hats, go a little bit lower. So"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "buy the hats with the shirts combined."}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "Future looks bright. This is not going"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "to last a long time. Represent your"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "country while you're representing the"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "future looks bright. If you enjoyed this"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "video, you want to watch more videos"}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "like this, click here. And if you want"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "to watch the entire podcast, click here."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "This is the one that nobody said was"}, {"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "with Professor Galloway where he's"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "sitting down with him and he says, \"Hey,"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "this wealth tax idea may be so good I"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "may want to take it national.\" Go ahead,"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "Rob."}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:17", "text": ">> I absolutely believe nationally uh we"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "need to tax billionaires more. We need"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "to change the stepped up basis. We need"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "to address the issue of capital gains."}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "We need to address the issue of"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "corporate taxes. We need to address uh"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "when you've talked a lot about this the"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "84.4 4 trillion to to I've seen some"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "estimates over $124 trillion of"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "generational wealth over the next decade"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "and a half, two decades, uh that will"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "pass uh and address the issue of"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "inheritance dynasty trusts. Um and and"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "going back to some tax brackets uh that"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "are more, you know, analogous to the guy"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "who used to reside here at the"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "governor's mansion um uh back in in the"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "80s or at least in the 60s as governor"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "and president in the 80s. And so we we"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "need to do all of those things at the"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "same time at the state level. I'm proud"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "of this. I don't defend it from a"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "defensive posture. I spent good 15"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "minutes at my state of the state earlier"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "this year making the case for"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "California's progressive tax structure."}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "Um we yes have the highest tax rate for"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "the 1%. Um but by definition"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "people don't pay that rate. So people"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "lazily refer to California as a high tax"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "state when in fact states like Texas and"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "Florida tax their low wage earners more"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "than we tax our high wage earners. Yet"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "they're considered low tax states, which"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "is rather perverse."}]

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I wasn't prepared for"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "what I saw. 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He honored all of"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "his ancestors. He honored the"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "directions, all six of them."}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "And then he closed his eyes with his"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "hands in a prayer mudra over his heart"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "just for a few seconds."}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "This is outside of the town of Taos,"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "[music] New Mexico. It's the nearest"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "city of any size and he looked at me. He"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "opened his eyes, he looked and he said,"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "um he said, \"I'm hungry, want to get a"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "bite to eat?\" And he was inside the"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "circle go I said, \"Well, yes.\" I said,"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "\"But I thought you were going to pray"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "for rain.\""}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "And he looked at me and what he said has"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "[music] stayed with me so powerfully for"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "so long and it's helped so many people"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "when they think about how this prayer"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "works. He looked at me and said, \"No.\""}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "He said, \"If [music] I prayed for rain,"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "rain could never happen.\""}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "He said, \"Because the moment I pray for"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "rain,"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "I have just told the universe that rain"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "does not exist here."}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "The moment I pray for it to happen,"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "I'm acknowledging that it's not here"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "now.\""}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "And I said, \"Well, if you didn't pray"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "for rain just now, I said, when you"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "closed your eyes, what you what did you"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "just do?\""}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "And he said, \"When I closed my eyes, he"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "said, I felt the feeling"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "of what it feels like"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "when it rains [music] in my Pueblo"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "village."}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "He said, \"I felt the feeling"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "of what it feels [music] like to stand"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "with my naked feet in the mud and mud is"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "there because there's been so much rain."}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "He said, I smelled the smells"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "of what the rain smells like when it"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "rolls off the earth and walls"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "from our Pueblo and I felt what it would"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "feel like to walk through the corn"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "that's this high against my naked chest"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "and it's this [music] high because"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "there's been so much rain to grow the"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "corn and then I give thanks of gratitude"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "and appreciation for the rain that has"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "already happened.\""}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "He's brought [music] together so many of"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "the concepts. He's acknowledging that"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "there's a field out there, number one,"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:22", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:25", "text": ">> that he's communicating with that field."}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "He's acknowledging that the feeling is"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "the language that the field recognizes."}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "It's not so much about the words. The"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "words can be spoken."}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "However, if the words are spoken, the"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "goal is to create the feeling."}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "All right? [music] And he's"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "acknowledging that he has the potential"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "as a man, [music]"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "a human,"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "in the presence of this field to reach"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "inside of the field into the realm of"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "all things that are possible and isolate"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "the possibility of his choice and"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "collapse that [music] potential into"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "something real in our world. And he's"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "doing it through a very sophisticated"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "[music] internal technology that we call"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "the lost mode of prayer. It is a"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "feeling-based prayer. The key? [music]"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "Feeling as if the prayer is already"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "answered. David and I went in the Taos,"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "New Mexico. We had lunch about an hour"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "south of where this prayer was was"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "offered. [music]"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "By the time I got back onto my land,"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "something began to happen that we hadn't"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "seen in a long time. Big black clouds"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "came in over the Sangre [music] de"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "Cristo mountains and started rain. And"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "it rained and it rained and rained and"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "rained. It rained all that night. It"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "rained the next morning. It rained the"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "next afternoon. [music]"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "It rained and rained. It rained so much"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "the ground was so dry it couldn't absorb"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "the rain and everything began to flood."}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "Fields were flooded. Cattle were"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "stranded. Roads were washed out."}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "And I called my friend on the phone. I'm"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "I'm just going to share this with you. I"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "called my friend on the phone and I"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "said, \"David, man, this is a mess.\" I"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "said, \"What is happening?\""}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "And he was quiet just for a moment. And"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "he said, \"Gregg, [music] that's the part"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "of the prayer our ancestors could never"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "figure out.\" He said, \"They could tell"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "it to rain, but they couldn't tell it"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "how much to rain.\" [music]"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "So, I cannot prove to you scientifically"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "that David's prayer had anything to do"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "with the rain that came in [music] that"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "afternoon. I cannot prove that to you as"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "a scientist."}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "As a scientist, what I have to say is"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "there's a high correlation between"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "[music] the rain that appeared that"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "hadn't been seen in a long time and what"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "David had just done hours earlier. When"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "we talk about these things, some of"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "these are anecdotal stories, [music] but"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "they're illustrating from an indigenous"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "perspective a very powerful concept."}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "Look at what David did."}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "He incorporated [music]"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "all of his senses. He didn't ask for"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "something to happen. He felt that it"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "already happened. He smelled [music]"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "what it smells like when it happens. He"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "heard the sounds of the rain. I didn't"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "even tell you about that part, but he"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "heard the sounds of the rain."}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "And he felt [music] as if that rain is"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "already there. I'm going to invite you"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "to think about this as we go into this"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "this modality of prayer that I'm going"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "to share with you."}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "So, the principles [music]"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "that I'm sharing this mode are very"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "simple. They're also very ancient. And"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "everything I'm saying to you, we see the"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "instructions for this kind of prayer,"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "for this code that allows us to speak"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "directly to the matrix. We see these"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "principles"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "uh recorded in some of our most ancient,"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "cherished spiritual traditions."}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:13", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:15", "text": ">> And I'm talking about lost biblical"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "books that I described earlier in this"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "program."}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "These are the books that were discovered"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "in the mid-20th [music]"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "century as the Nag Hammadi Library in"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "Egypt. Remember that the Dead Sea"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "Scrolls are the oldest records of the"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "Old Testament, Nag Hammadi Library are"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "the oldest records of the New Testament."}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "Both of them found"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:34", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:36", "text": ">> uh mid-20th century, the 1940s."}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "And in that Nag Hammadi Library, the"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "43-plus [music]"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "books that were completely removed from"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "the biblical canon in the 4th century by"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "the Emperor Constantine,"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:46", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:48", "text": ">> were intact in the Nag Hammadi Library,"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "including the Gospel of Thomas that"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "we've spoken about earlier. Thomas the"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "Scribe"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "that followed the master, Jesus, the"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "teacher, [music]"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "not a religious man from this"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "perspective. This he followed the"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "teacher, and he recorded the words, the"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "exact words of the teacher. And this is"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "important because there is a place in"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "the Gospel of Thomas where his students"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "asked"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "the teacher how to communicate with the"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "field. [music]"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "They didn't use those terms."}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "They asked how to communicate with God."}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "And it's in the Gospel of Thomas that we"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "find the instructions for the fifth"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "mode, the lost mode of [music] prayer."}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "So, it's in the Gospel of Thomas that we"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "actually find the instructions"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:30", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:32", "text": ">> for this fifth or this lost mode of"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "prayer, as as I mentioned. So, let me"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "first read to you the translation"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "[music] in the authorized version of the"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "King James Bible as we see it today. If"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "you'd like to see this for yourself,"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "it's in King James version of the book"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "of John 16 through 23 is where you would"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "find this. I know you've heard this"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "before. How many of you have heard"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "ask and you shall receive? That's where"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "this comes from. Let [music] me read you"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "the translation. The translation goes"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "like this."}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "Whatsoever you ask the Father in my"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "name, he will give it [music] to you."}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "Ask and you shall receive that your joy"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "may be full."}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "Okay, and that's the end of the"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "translation."}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "I don't know about you, when I was a kid"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "I would ask and ask and ask and not much"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "would happen and I became very"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "frustrated many people do."}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "We feel powerless. We feel that our"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "prayers really aren't making any any"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "difference because we're not seeing uh"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "any way to reinforce"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "that our prayers have actually done"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "something. They've made a difference."}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "I want to go back into the original"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "Aramaic translation and Greek and"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "Aramaic both, but this is going to be"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "from the original Aramaic."}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "In the Gospel of Thomas, you see Greek"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "and [music] Aramaic is why I'm"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "clarifying this."}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "And I want to read you and it's very"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "close. But there is a powerful and"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "subtle difference"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "that was left out in the translation"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "that it may very well be because the"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "translators did not understand what you"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "and I are exploring [music] right now"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "because they didn't understand it, they"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "simply streamlined the language. So, in"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "the translated version uh and if you'd"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "like to see this for yourself, [music]"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "it comes from Neil Douglas Klotz is the"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "the name of the translator. It's a"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "little book called Prayers of the"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "Cosmos. There's a beautiful beautiful"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "book where he re-translates so many of"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "of the very powerful prayers and this is"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "one of them. Now, listen to [music] the"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "difference."}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "In the original text, it begins a very"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "similar way."}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "Quote, \"All things [music] that you ask"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "straightly, directly from inside my"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "name, you'll be given.\" Okay, now here"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "comes the translation that was in error."}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:32", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:35", "text": ">> This is the original."}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "Ask without hidden motive and be"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "surrounded by your answer. Be enveloped"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "by what you desire that your gladness be"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "full. That is a single, very powerful"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "statement. I'm going to break this down."}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "Ask without hidden motive. That is"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "inviting you to ask without attachment"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "to [music] the outcome. It's actually a"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "very Buddhist concept. Ask without"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "attachment to the rightness, [music] the"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "wrongness, the goodness, the badness, or"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "the joy or the disappointment as as to"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "whether or not [music] your prayer is"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "answered. Without attachment to the"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "outcome. Okay? Be"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "Be surrounded by your answer. Be [music]"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "enveloped by what you desire. The only"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "way to be is if [music] those things are"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "already present. Your prayer is already"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "answered. You're coming from the place"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "that the prayer [music] has already been"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "answered. So, the key to what we're"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "saying here, feel the feeling. Feel as"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "if the prayer is already answered. With"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "[music] as many senses as you can,"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "smell, touch, taste, hearing. Feel as if"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "your body is already healed. Feel as if"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "your perfect relationship is already"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "present. Feel as if your abundance is"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "already present. Invoke all of those"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "senses."}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "So, now that science is beginning to"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "tell us in its language,"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "ancient spiritual traditions have shown"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "us in their way and in our own texts and"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "documents, we're seeing references uh to"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "precisely how these principles work. The"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "question is,"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:05", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:07", "text": ">> how do we apply them in our lives? How"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "do we go about making use of this"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "relationship between thoughts, feelings,"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "and emotions inside of our bodies and"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "what's happening in the world around us?"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "Well, perhaps the the best place to"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "begin is by defining uh what a thought,"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "and a feeling, and emotion really are."}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "Um [music]"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "I've had this conversation with my mom"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "many, many times. Mom always says to me,"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "she says, \"I always thought feelings and"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "emotions were the same [music] thing.\""}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "And while they're closely related, there"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "is uh there is a difference."}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "So, if we think of a of a chart, if you"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "look at the ancient charts of the energy"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "centers in our [music] bodies, the"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "chakra centers, if you will."}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "What we see is the lower three energy"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "centers of [music] our bodies, they are"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "closely associated with what we call the"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "power of human emotion."}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "And the ancient [music] said we're"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "capable of only two primary emotions."}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "They said we're capable of the emotion"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "of love"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "and whatever we believe the opposite of"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "love really [music] is."}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "Whether we think of that as fear or"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "hate. Uh and when you get really deep"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "into the traditions, we find is is"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "they're actually both polarities of the"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "same [music] force."}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "So, in those lower centers, the power of"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "emotion,"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "uh"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "we have [music] two primary experiences,"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "love and whatever we believe the"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "opposite of love really is."}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "This is a a power, it's a [music] force"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "that drives us forward in life, and it"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "tears down the walls,"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "uh knocks down the barriers that stand"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "between us"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:28", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:30", "text": ">> and the things that we hold dear in our"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "lives."}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "Emotion, however, is scattered. It has"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "to be focused. You can think of it as a"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "power. If you know people who live"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "strictly in their emotions, [music]"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "uh you know that sometimes their lives"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "can be a little chaotic."}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "Well, the emotions need to be focused,"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "and this is where the power of thought"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "or logic come in. 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So, feeling by definition"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "[music] is the union of emotion and the"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "thought. And the one energy center,"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "interestingly enough, that is not"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "accounted for"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:31", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:34", "text": ">> in all the other systems"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "uh that remains unused in these ancient"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "systems is the heart center. And this is"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "the one that is dedicated to the power"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "of [music] feeling. We feel in our"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "hearts."}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "So, the feeling that we have in our"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "hearts is the language"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "that speaks [music]"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "to the field"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "that Western science is now beginning to"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "to understand through through their"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "experiments."}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "So, rather than praying and feeling"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "powerless in a given situation, \"Dear"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "God, [music] please let there be peace"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "in the world.\""}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "This mode of prayer invites us to feel"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "as if we are participating in that"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "peace, just [music] as John Wheeler"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "suggested."}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "That we are part of all that we see. And"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "as we feel the peace in our world or the"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "healing in the bodies of our loved ones,"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "[music] we are actually empowering the"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "field to mirror that back to us [music]"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "in a way that will bring those changes"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "about in our lives and in our world."}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "That's precisely what the abbot was"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "saying [music] to us"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "in the monastery in Tibet."}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "1972,"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "24 United States cities"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "were used to conduct an experiment"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "where people were trained to feel the"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "feeling of peace"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "in a very specific [music]"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "manner. And they were strategically"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "strategically placed in these cities."}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "Each city had populations over [music]"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "10,000 people."}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "Uh and these were documented in some of"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "the very well-known TM studies that"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "[music] were done uh back in the uh in"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "the early '70s."}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "And what happened was during the time"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "that the people were feeling [music] the"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "feelings of peace in the community"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "around them, beyond the buildings where"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "they were having their experience,"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:10", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:13", "text": ">> the communities experienced"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "statistically measurable reductions in"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "crime."}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "Violent [music] crimes against people,"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "traffic accidents declined."}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "Uh in some cities like Chicago, where"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "the stock exchange is the stock market,"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "soared [music] while peace was in place."}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "And when they stopped their prayers, all"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "those statistics [music] reversed."}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "And they did this time and time again to"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "such a degree"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "that the effect could be measured and it"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "was applied in an even greater"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "experiment that was uh documented in the"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "Journal of Conflict Resolution, 1988."}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "And this was the experiment. It was"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "called the International Peace Project"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "in the Middle East."}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "What happened during the"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "Israeli-Lebanese [music]"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "War in the early 1980s?"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "As a result of these earlier studies,"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "people who were trained to [music] feel"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "the feelings of peace were positioned"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "throughout the war-torn areas in Israel"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "and Lebanon."}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "And during [music] the time what the"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "researchers called the window, the"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "prayer window,"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "when they were feeling, people were"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "trained to feel the feelings of peace in"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "their hearts, when they were feeling"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "those feelings, [music] terrorist"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "activities dropped to zero. Crimes"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "against people declined. Emergency"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "hospital room visits declined. And they"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "tried doing these experiments different"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "times of day,"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "uh different [music] days of the week to"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "make sure it wasn't an effect of of"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "weeks or weekends or holidays or or"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "different times of the month to make"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "sure it wasn't an effect of lunar cycles"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:35", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:37", "text": ">> affecting people."}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "And when the studies were complete, what"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "they found, although we may not know"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "precisely why this effect happens"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "[music] the way it happens, we know the"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "correlations are so high that when a"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "certain [music] number of people"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "begin to feel the feeling of peace or"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "[music] healing in their bodies in one"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "place, the effect carries into the"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "community beyond the place where [music]"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "these people are."}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "And it is so precise that we now know,"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "the statisticians [music] were able to"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "determine precisely the number of people"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "that are required to kickstart, to"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "jumpstart this kind of an effect. So,"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "I'll share the [music] uh the formula"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "and then I'll describe what that formula"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "means."}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "The effect"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "is first noticed when a certain number"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "of people are participating. [music]"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "And that number, the minimum number, is"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "the square root of 1% [music] of a given"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "population."}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "So, what does that mean? If you have a"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "city of 1 [music] million people, for"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "example,"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "you take 1% of 1 million on your little"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "calculator,"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:39", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:41", "text": ">> and then you take the square root of"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "whatever that 1% was."}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "And that number tells you how many"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "people are necessary, [music]"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "the threshold number, to begin the"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "effect. Obviously, the more people that"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "participate, [music] uh the greater the"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "effect."}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "Uh for a city of 1 million people, that"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "number is only about 100."}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "In a world of 6 billion people,"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "square root [music] 1% of the given"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "population is only about 8,000 people."}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "8,000 [music] people, according to these"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "studies,"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "are the number of people, that's all"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "that's required, to feel the feelings"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "[music] of peace in their heart in a"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "given moment in time, simultaneously,"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "to kickstart, to jumpstart that"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "consciousness [music] linked through the"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "field. As we know, the field exists"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "today. Many of the powers that be do not"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "[music] know what we're talking about."}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "So, so the the choices and decisions"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "that they're making are based upon the"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "old story. This is why I say the story"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "the stakes have never been higher."}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:39", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:41", "text": ">> We have a planet at stake, and life on"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "the planet is at stake."}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "And and I think what's important is"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "rather than judging those people"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "for the choices that they're making, or"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "judging ourselves. And"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "there is a conditioning. It's based upon"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "this story [music]"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "of competition, struggle, and"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "separation. We have been taught, Shaman,"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "to demonize [music]"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "the things that no longer work for us."}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "We've been taught to demonize and hate"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "to to justify moving in in new"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "direction, making new decisions,"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:17", "text": "from my perspective,"}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "I think it may not serve us to do that."}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "[music] We all"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "we all have had a lifetime of feeling"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:26", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:28", "text": ">> inadequate, of our stories telling us,"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "you know, that we're not worthy, of"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "right and wrong and good and bad and"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "comparing ourselves [music] to success"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "and failure and and all of that only"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "works if you have some model"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:40", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:42", "text": ">> that you are comparing yourself to. But"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "if you let that model go, then"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "everything we've done in the past is"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "simply our experience. It's our learning"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "curve."}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:48", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:50", "text": ">> And we have to say that it worked"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "because we're here now. It worked to get"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "us where we are. And now that we have"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "new understandings, we can let those"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "understandings [music] go, bless them,"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "let them go with grace. It's not so much"}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:04", "text": "about a mistake or about goodness or"}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "badness or rightness or wrongness or"}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "revenge or any of that. This is a new"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "day. It's a new world."}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:12", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:13", "text": ">> We are perhaps more unified in that"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "understanding"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "than we have been for a very long time."}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "The whole world knows that we're in this"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "together and that we're going somewhere."}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "But here's the beauty of this"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "conversation. Where we're going hasn't"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "happened yet because we're creating it"}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "through what we understand right now."}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "And as we embrace these understandings"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:35", "text": "that we're talking about, and they have"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:37", "text": "a lot of implications. They have social"}, {"start": "00:20:35", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "and political implications, certainly."}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "Implications in in terms of of energy"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "and and where our energy in the planet"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:47", "text": "comes from and how we feed one another"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "and how we heal one another. So, story's"}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "a big deal."}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:51", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:53", "text": ">> So, if we can if we can move from this"}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:55", "text": "point forward without judging ourselves"}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "or judging others in the past, I think"}, {"start": "00:20:55", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "it's a really healthy way"}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "to do this. Now, one of the places where"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "this is coming up"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "because the world is [music] changing"}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "and"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:09", "text": "because of our story"}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:11", "text": "that has taught us [music] that we are"}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "powerless victims"}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "of a world that we cannot control, there"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:20", "text": "is a greater desire"}, {"start": "00:21:17", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "to create stuff out there, external"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "technology,"}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "to replace [music] our soft technology"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "so that we feel good and safe in [music]"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "the world. Feel good about ourselves."}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "Feel safe in the world. And we're also"}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "being told that that we need this"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "external technology to achieve our"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "greatest potentials. And"}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:40", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:43", "text": ">> in whole, in mass, that movement is"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:45", "text": "being called the transhumanism movement."}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "I I'm not anti-technology, but here"}, {"start": "00:21:45", "end": "00:21:48", "text": "here's the thing. And this is a"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:50", "text": "conversation"}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "that scientists have had since I've been"}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "in the scientific world."}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "There are two schools of thought when it"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "comes to scientists."}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "Some scientists believe that because we"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "figure out how to do something, it gives"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:07", "text": "us the license to go forward full"}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:09", "text": "throttle and do that. Other scientists"}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "say, \"Because we figure out how to do"}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:14", "text": "something, doesn't mean that we need to"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "carry it to its greatest expression,"}, {"start": "00:22:14", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "that we need to throttle that discovery"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "with things like morality, with human"}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "values.\" And this is where technology"}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:28", "text": "and transhumanism is coming in. The"}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "technology is available"}, {"start": "00:22:28", "end": "00:22:33", "text": "right now to replace much of of the"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "human body. And and because the story"}, {"start": "00:22:33", "end": "00:22:37", "text": "has led [music] people to believe that"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "some people that carbon-based life,"}, {"start": "00:22:37", "end": "00:22:43", "text": "that's us, we're carbon-based life, is"}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:45", "text": "imperfect, that carbon-based life is"}, {"start": "00:22:43", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "flawed, that we are the product of lucky"}, {"start": "00:22:45", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "biology and a lucky universe to begin"}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:50", "text": "with,"}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:54", "text": "their thinking is that we need to"}, {"start": "00:22:50", "end": "00:22:57", "text": "[music] replace this flawed carbon-based"}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:22:59", "text": "body with machines."}, {"start": "00:22:57", "end": "00:23:01", "text": "Here Here's the slippery slope."}, {"start": "00:22:59", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "We've all heard the expression use it or"}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "lose it."}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "And our biology functions in in a very"}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "similar way."}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:11", "text": "We are this extraordinary,"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "highly advanced, technologically"}, {"start": "00:23:11", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "sophisticated [music]"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:17", "text": "soft technology"}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:19", "text": "that has the ability self-regulate,"}, {"start": "00:23:17", "end": "00:23:22", "text": "self-heal"}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:23", "text": "to heal our own bodies, to regenerate,"}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:26", "text": "to rejuvenate in a way that no other"}, {"start": "00:23:23", "end": "00:23:29", "text": "form of life has. And when we begin to"}, {"start": "00:23:26", "end": "00:23:33", "text": "replace the neurons"}, {"start": "00:23:29", "end": "00:23:35", "text": "and glands, and the blood, and the"}, {"start": "00:23:33", "end": "00:23:38", "text": "chemicals in our bodies with computer"}, {"start": "00:23:35", "end": "00:23:41", "text": "chips and wires and other chemicals,"}, {"start": "00:23:38", "end": "00:23:43", "text": "we begin to lose those capabilities."}, {"start": "00:23:41", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "They atrophy if we don't use them. Now,"}, {"start": "00:23:43", "end": "00:23:48", "text": "in one generation, if we stop using"}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:51", "text": "certain classes of neurons, then the"}, {"start": "00:23:48", "end": "00:23:53", "text": "connections of those neural networks"}, {"start": "00:23:51", "end": "00:23:54", "text": "begin to atrophy. In the next"}, {"start": "00:23:53", "end": "00:23:56", "text": "generation, the body says, \"Well, I"}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:23:59", "text": "guess we don't need those anymore.\" And"}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:24:02", "text": "they may stop producing altogether. And"}, {"start": "00:23:59", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "we're actually seeing this happen"}, {"start": "00:24:02", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "as technology [music]"}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:09", "text": "is beginning to replace in some"}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:10", "text": "societies our most intimate human"}, {"start": "00:24:09", "end": "00:24:13", "text": "relationships. [music]"}, {"start": "00:24:10", "end": "00:24:16", "text": "And I'm I'm talking about human intimacy"}, {"start": "00:24:13", "end": "00:24:19", "text": "in terms of emotional intimacy and"}, {"start": "00:24:16", "end": "00:24:21", "text": "sexual intimacy. It's being replaced by"}, {"start": "00:24:19", "end": "00:24:22", "text": "technology uh and games."}, {"start": "00:24:21", "end": "00:24:23", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:24:22", "end": "00:24:26", "text": ">> And what's happening in those societies"}, {"start": "00:24:23", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "is the birth rate is declining because"}, {"start": "00:24:26", "end": "00:24:31", "text": "infertility is increasing and sperm"}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:33", "text": "counts are dropping. Use it or lose it."}, {"start": "00:24:31", "end": "00:24:37", "text": "We have right now"}, {"start": "00:24:33", "end": "00:24:39", "text": "uh the ability to implant a a computer"}, {"start": "00:24:37", "end": "00:24:41", "text": "chip to implant a computer chip into the"}, {"start": "00:24:39", "end": "00:24:43", "text": "human brain that gives us direct access"}, {"start": "00:24:41", "end": "00:24:45", "text": "[music] to the hard drive of our"}, {"start": "00:24:43", "end": "00:24:48", "text": "computer without the use of a keyboard."}, {"start": "00:24:45", "end": "00:24:49", "text": "So, when I say this in an audience of of"}, {"start": "00:24:48", "end": "00:24:51", "text": "young people I have no children of my"}, {"start": "00:24:49", "end": "00:24:53", "text": "own, so I learn a lot from the young"}, {"start": "00:24:51", "end": "00:24:54", "text": "people in my audience. What they say,"}, {"start": "00:24:53", "end": "00:24:57", "text": "the first thing they say is they say,"}, {"start": "00:24:54", "end": "00:25:00", "text": "\"Wait a minute. You mean I can do my"}, {"start": "00:24:57", "end": "00:25:03", "text": "gaming without ever using a keyboard?"}, {"start": "00:25:00", "end": "00:25:05", "text": "But because they've never been taught"}, {"start": "00:25:03", "end": "00:25:07", "text": "how precious [music] and rare"}, {"start": "00:25:05", "end": "00:25:08", "text": "and I'll just go the extra mile and say"}, {"start": "00:25:07", "end": "00:25:11", "text": "sacred."}, {"start": "00:25:08", "end": "00:25:13", "text": "Not from a religious perspective,"}, {"start": "00:25:11", "end": "00:25:16", "text": "but from a deeply spiritual perspective,"}, {"start": "00:25:13", "end": "00:25:17", "text": "how sacred this internal technology is."}, {"start": "00:25:16", "end": "00:25:18", "text": "[music] And if you've not been taught"}, {"start": "00:25:17", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "that,"}, {"start": "00:25:18", "end": "00:25:23", "text": "then you're responsible,"}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:26", "text": "why not? You know, why not put a chip in"}, {"start": "00:25:23", "end": "00:25:27", "text": "my brain so I can access my my computer"}, {"start": "00:25:26", "end": "00:25:30", "text": "hard drive?"}, {"start": "00:25:27", "end": "00:25:32", "text": "So, it's being offered recreationally."}, {"start": "00:25:30", "end": "00:25:34", "text": "And this is the thing. If we embrace"}, {"start": "00:25:32", "end": "00:25:36", "text": "these technologies recreationally in one"}, {"start": "00:25:34", "end": "00:25:37", "text": "generation,"}, {"start": "00:25:36", "end": "00:25:39", "text": "uh"}, {"start": "00:25:37", "end": "00:25:40", "text": "what is it that we're compromising? And"}, {"start": "00:25:39", "end": "00:25:42", "text": "so I Yeah, I'm going to be clear. I'm"}, {"start": "00:25:40", "end": "00:25:44", "text": "not saying it's right, wrong, good, or"}, {"start": "00:25:42", "end": "00:25:46", "text": "bad. I'm not saying do it or or don't do"}, {"start": "00:25:44", "end": "00:25:49", "text": "it. What I am saying"}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:52", "text": "is that we need a cautionary pause"}, {"start": "00:25:49", "end": "00:25:54", "text": "because we are at the crash rate,"}, {"start": "00:25:52", "end": "00:25:56", "text": "transhumanism and biology, what it means"}, {"start": "00:25:54", "end": "00:25:58", "text": "to be human."}, {"start": "00:25:56", "end": "00:26:00", "text": "When we"}, {"start": "00:25:58", "end": "00:26:03", "text": "compromise our humanness and those"}, {"start": "00:26:00", "end": "00:26:04", "text": "abilities begin to atrophy, we we need"}, {"start": "00:26:03", "end": "00:26:06", "text": "to know"}, {"start": "00:26:04", "end": "00:26:08", "text": "what how much of our This is the"}, {"start": "00:26:06", "end": "00:26:08", "text": "question. How much of ourselves"}, {"start": "00:26:08", "end": "00:26:10", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:26:08", "end": "00:26:11", "text": ">> do we give away to the technology? How"}, {"start": "00:26:10", "end": "00:26:14", "text": "much of our humanness"}, {"start": "00:26:11", "end": "00:26:16", "text": "do we give to the technology? We can't"}, {"start": "00:26:14", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "answer that until we know [music] who we"}, {"start": "00:26:16", "end": "00:26:20", "text": "are. Consciousness"}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:23", "text": "informs itself"}, {"start": "00:26:20", "end": "00:26:25", "text": "through its creations. In the words of"}, {"start": "00:26:23", "end": "00:26:28", "text": "the master Jesus, not from a religious"}, {"start": "00:26:25", "end": "00:26:29", "text": "perspective, but as as a masterful"}, {"start": "00:26:28", "end": "00:26:31", "text": "teacher,"}, {"start": "00:26:29", "end": "00:26:36", "text": "what he told [music] his students was be"}, {"start": "00:26:31", "end": "00:26:38", "text": "surrounded by your desire. Be surrounded"}, {"start": "00:26:36", "end": "00:26:40", "text": "by your joy so that it can be fulfilled."}, {"start": "00:26:38", "end": "00:26:42", "text": "[music] The only way to be is for it to"}, {"start": "00:26:40", "end": "00:26:43", "text": "have already happened, to feel the"}, {"start": "00:26:42", "end": "00:26:45", "text": "feelings as if it's already there. And"}, {"start": "00:26:43", "end": "00:26:47", "text": "this is"}, {"start": "00:26:45", "end": "00:26:49", "text": "So, we're talking about the power of"}, {"start": "00:26:47", "end": "00:26:50", "text": "human emotion"}, {"start": "00:26:49", "end": "00:26:50", "text": "to bring an"}, {"start": "00:26:50", "end": "00:26:53", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:26:50", "end": "00:26:54", "text": ">> internal technology of quantum"}, {"start": "00:26:53", "end": "00:26:56", "text": "manifestation"}, {"start": "00:26:54", "end": "00:26:57", "text": "uh into reality in [music] our physical"}, {"start": "00:26:56", "end": "00:27:00", "text": "world and we're trying to do it in a"}, {"start": "00:26:57", "end": "00:27:01", "text": "couple of minutes. That's interesting."}, {"start": "00:27:00", "end": "00:27:03", "text": ">> this Q&A."}, {"start": "00:27:01", "end": "00:27:05", "text": "Rather than being that specific, let me"}, {"start": "00:27:03", "end": "00:27:06", "text": "say in general because I get this"}, {"start": "00:27:05", "end": "00:27:09", "text": "question a lot."}, {"start": "00:27:06", "end": "00:27:11", "text": "Um if we can feel the feeling and create"}, {"start": "00:27:09", "end": "00:27:12", "text": "good things, can other people feel the"}, {"start": "00:27:11", "end": "00:27:14", "text": "feelings and create bad things? That's"}, {"start": "00:27:12", "end": "00:27:15", "text": "the essence. Would you agree is that the"}, {"start": "00:27:14", "end": "00:27:16", "text": "essence of the question?"}, {"start": "00:27:15", "end": "00:27:17", "text": ">> That's true."}, {"start": "00:27:16", "end": "00:27:19", "text": "Nature"}, {"start": "00:27:17", "end": "00:27:22", "text": "has built in a fail-safe"}, {"start": "00:27:19", "end": "00:27:24", "text": "which is so awesome when you think about"}, {"start": "00:27:22", "end": "00:27:26", "text": "this. And then here's the way it works."}, {"start": "00:27:24", "end": "00:27:26", "text": "Whatever it is that we claim,"}, {"start": "00:27:26", "end": "00:27:29", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:27:26", "end": "00:27:32", "text": ">> whatever it is that we create, we will"}, {"start": "00:27:29", "end": "00:27:34", "text": "experience in our own bodies,"}, {"start": "00:27:32", "end": "00:27:36", "text": "in our own cells, in our [music] own"}, {"start": "00:27:34", "end": "00:27:38", "text": "existence before it ever becomes"}, {"start": "00:27:36", "end": "00:27:39", "text": "manifest in the world around us."}, {"start": "00:27:38", "end": "00:27:39", "text": "So,"}, {"start": "00:27:39", "end": "00:27:43", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:27:39", "end": "00:27:45", "text": ">> if we are beings of cooperation, peace,"}, {"start": "00:27:43", "end": "00:27:45", "text": "love, and healing,"}, {"start": "00:27:45", "end": "00:27:47", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:27:45", "end": "00:27:49", "text": ">> what a beautiful thing for us not only"}, {"start": "00:27:47", "end": "00:27:51", "text": "to choose that for the world, but for us"}, {"start": "00:27:49", "end": "00:27:51", "text": "[music] to claim it for ourselves as"}, {"start": "00:27:51", "end": "00:27:55", "text": "well."}, {"start": "00:27:51", "end": "00:27:57", "text": "If we are"}, {"start": "00:27:55", "end": "00:27:59", "text": "in my estimation abusing this power to"}, {"start": "00:27:57", "end": "00:28:02", "text": "create harmful [music] things for other"}, {"start": "00:27:59", "end": "00:28:04", "text": "people, we will experience that harm and"}, {"start": "00:28:02", "end": "00:28:06", "text": "it will destroy us before it will ever"}, {"start": "00:28:04", "end": "00:28:08", "text": "have the impact that many people are"}, {"start": "00:28:06", "end": "00:28:10", "text": "concerned about in the world around us."}, {"start": "00:28:08", "end": "00:28:11", "text": "Nature's fail-safe."}, {"start": "00:28:10", "end": "00:28:13", "text": "When there's no one else to ask, when"}, {"start": "00:28:11", "end": "00:28:14", "text": "there's no book to ask, and everybody I"}, {"start": "00:28:13", "end": "00:28:16", "text": "have friends [music] who have health"}, {"start": "00:28:14", "end": "00:28:19", "text": "issues,"}, {"start": "00:28:16", "end": "00:28:20", "text": "and every one of their friends is giving"}, {"start": "00:28:19", "end": "00:28:22", "text": "them advice that's different and they're"}, {"start": "00:28:20", "end": "00:28:25", "text": "pulled in a million directions. Drink"}, {"start": "00:28:22", "end": "00:28:26", "text": "this, you know, smoke this,"}, {"start": "00:28:25", "end": "00:28:29", "text": "wear one of these crystals, you know,"}, {"start": "00:28:26", "end": "00:28:30", "text": "eat this much. They're all good for some"}, {"start": "00:28:29", "end": "00:28:32", "text": "things, but how do you know what's right"}, {"start": "00:28:30", "end": "00:28:33", "text": "for you? Nobody can tell you. And this"}, {"start": "00:28:32", "end": "00:28:35", "text": "is one [music] of those times where"}, {"start": "00:28:33", "end": "00:28:36", "text": "nobody can tell you. This is where you"}, {"start": "00:28:35", "end": "00:28:38", "text": "harmonize the heart and the brain. You"}, {"start": "00:28:36", "end": "00:28:38", "text": "go into your heart wisdom"}, {"start": "00:28:38", "end": "00:28:40", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:28:38", "end": "00:28:43", "text": ">> and you ask what's right for you in this"}, {"start": "00:28:40", "end": "00:28:44", "text": "moment. Part of my heritage is Cherokee,"}, {"start": "00:28:43", "end": "00:28:45", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:28:44", "end": "00:28:47", "text": ">> Southeastern Cherokee. And there's a"}, {"start": "00:28:45", "end": "00:28:48", "text": "word for what we're talking about. It's"}, {"start": "00:28:47", "end": "00:28:48", "text": "called Shanti Ishta."}, {"start": "00:28:48", "end": "00:28:50", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:28:48", "end": "00:28:53", "text": ">> Shanti Ishta means the single eye of the"}, {"start": "00:28:50", "end": "00:28:55", "text": "heart. The eye that knows what's right"}, {"start": "00:28:53", "end": "00:28:57", "text": "for [music] you in this moment, not for"}, {"start": "00:28:55", "end": "00:28:59", "text": "your neighbor, not for your parents,"}, {"start": "00:28:57", "end": "00:29:00", "text": "your sibling, only for you in this"}, {"start": "00:28:59", "end": "00:29:03", "text": "moment. [music] And this question is a"}, {"start": "00:29:00", "end": "00:29:05", "text": "perfect example. If you want to know"}, {"start": "00:29:03", "end": "00:29:07", "text": "what it is that you're hearing, go in"}, {"start": "00:29:05", "end": "00:29:08", "text": "your heart and ask."}, {"start": "00:29:07", "end": "00:29:10", "text": "And you're empowered to do that."}, {"start": "00:29:08", "end": "00:29:12", "text": "A routine medical exam, [music]"}, {"start": "00:29:10", "end": "00:29:14", "text": "I was told I had something inside my"}, {"start": "00:29:12", "end": "00:29:15", "text": "body that shouldn't be there, in my"}, {"start": "00:29:14", "end": "00:29:17", "text": "bladder."}, {"start": "00:29:15", "end": "00:29:19", "text": "After I'd been seeing this film for"}, {"start": "00:29:17", "end": "00:29:21", "text": "years in front of live audiences,"}, {"start": "00:29:19", "end": "00:29:24", "text": "and I needed surgery."}, {"start": "00:29:21", "end": "00:29:26", "text": "And I said, \"Give me [music] 2 weeks.\""}, {"start": "00:29:24", "end": "00:29:27", "text": "And I applied everything that I've ever"}, {"start": "00:29:26", "end": "00:29:29", "text": "learned,"}, {"start": "00:29:27", "end": "00:29:31", "text": "but still I had that little doubt that"}, {"start": "00:29:29", "end": "00:29:33", "text": "we often have."}, {"start": "00:29:31", "end": "00:29:34", "text": "And I said, \"How do I know if it's if"}, {"start": "00:29:33", "end": "00:29:37", "text": "it's [music] real?\" I went to the Mayo"}, {"start": "00:29:34", "end": "00:29:39", "text": "Clinic in Jacksonville, Florida,"}, {"start": "00:29:37", "end": "00:29:39", "text": "and actually underwent"}, {"start": "00:29:39", "end": "00:29:40", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:29:39", "end": "00:29:41", "text": ">> what we thought was going to be a"}, {"start": "00:29:40", "end": "00:29:43", "text": "procedure."}, {"start": "00:29:41", "end": "00:29:45", "text": "And I was anesthetized, and when I woke"}, {"start": "00:29:43", "end": "00:29:46", "text": "up, the doctor was saying to me, \"Why"}, {"start": "00:29:45", "end": "00:29:48", "text": "are you here?\" And I said, \"Well,"}, {"start": "00:29:46", "end": "00:29:50", "text": "[music] what do you mean?\" He said,"}, {"start": "00:29:48", "end": "00:29:51", "text": "\"There's nothing to remove. There's no"}, {"start": "00:29:50", "end": "00:29:53", "text": "sign that it was. There's no redness,"}, {"start": "00:29:51", "end": "00:29:55", "text": "there's no scarring.\""}, {"start": "00:29:53", "end": "00:29:56", "text": "Why and he was trying to figure [music]"}, {"start": "00:29:55", "end": "00:29:58", "text": "out why his team was working on somebody"}, {"start": "00:29:56", "end": "00:30:01", "text": "that didn't need to be worked on."}, {"start": "00:29:58", "end": "00:30:03", "text": "I was anesthetized, so I was trying to"}, {"start": "00:30:01", "end": "00:30:04", "text": "explain to him about [music]"}, {"start": "00:30:03", "end": "00:30:07", "text": "quantum healing"}, {"start": "00:30:04", "end": "00:30:09", "text": "and medicine this hospital in Beijing,"}, {"start": "00:30:07", "end": "00:30:10", "text": "China, as he would turn and walked out"}, {"start": "00:30:09", "end": "00:30:12", "text": "the door because"}, {"start": "00:30:10", "end": "00:30:13", "text": "there's nothing in his belief system"}, {"start": "00:30:12", "end": "00:30:16", "text": "[music] that"}, {"start": "00:30:13", "end": "00:30:17", "text": "where that would fit. So, the answer is"}, {"start": "00:30:16", "end": "00:30:19", "text": "I have applied it in my own [music] life"}, {"start": "00:30:17", "end": "00:30:21", "text": "and and I do"}, {"start": "00:30:19", "end": "00:30:23", "text": "I Rather than trying to apply it, I try"}, {"start": "00:30:21", "end": "00:30:25", "text": "to live it. I do my very best and I'm a"}, {"start": "00:30:23", "end": "00:30:27", "text": "student, [music] I'm learning. I'll I'll"}, {"start": "00:30:25", "end": "00:30:29", "text": "learn till my last day on Earth."}, {"start": "00:30:27", "end": "00:30:30", "text": "But I think [music] the best we can do"}, {"start": "00:30:29", "end": "00:30:31", "text": "is"}, {"start": "00:30:30", "end": "00:30:33", "text": "is not to discount"}, {"start": "00:30:31", "end": "00:30:34", "text": "the wisdom of those who have come before"}, {"start": "00:30:33", "end": "00:30:34", "text": "us,"}, {"start": "00:30:34", "end": "00:30:36", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:30:34", "end": "00:30:37", "text": ">> but to embrace it where it makes sense,"}, {"start": "00:30:36", "end": "00:30:39", "text": "marry it with the best science of the"}, {"start": "00:30:37", "end": "00:30:40", "text": "modern world to be the best people that"}, {"start": "00:30:39", "end": "00:30:42", "text": "we can be."}, {"start": "00:30:40", "end": "00:30:43", "text": "What I found is this."}, {"start": "00:30:42", "end": "00:30:43", "text": "Uh"}, {"start": "00:30:43", "end": "00:30:45", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:30:43", "end": "00:30:48", "text": ">> everyone is waking up."}, {"start": "00:30:45", "end": "00:30:50", "text": "Um because we're told that this world is"}, {"start": "00:30:48", "end": "00:30:53", "text": "a dream. So, we're waking up from a"}, {"start": "00:30:50", "end": "00:30:55", "text": "dream in some sense."}, {"start": "00:30:53", "end": "00:30:56", "text": "But just as we all wake up differently"}, {"start": "00:30:55", "end": "00:30:57", "text": "in the morning from our bed, [music] we"}, {"start": "00:30:56", "end": "00:31:01", "text": "all wake up at different times in"}, {"start": "00:30:57", "end": "00:31:03", "text": "different ways. And we can't possibly"}, {"start": "00:31:01", "end": "00:31:05", "text": "judge [music] when or how or to what"}, {"start": "00:31:03", "end": "00:31:06", "text": "degree another person is awake because"}, {"start": "00:31:05", "end": "00:31:09", "text": "of"}, {"start": "00:31:06", "end": "00:31:11", "text": "choices they make in one facet of their"}, {"start": "00:31:09", "end": "00:31:13", "text": "lives may look to us like an unconscious"}, {"start": "00:31:11", "end": "00:31:16", "text": "choice when another part of their lives"}, {"start": "00:31:13", "end": "00:31:18", "text": "they may [music] be so totally tuned in."}, {"start": "00:31:16", "end": "00:31:21", "text": "So, my experience is the best that we"}, {"start": "00:31:18", "end": "00:31:22", "text": "can hope to do is live our truths for"}, {"start": "00:31:21", "end": "00:31:24", "text": "ourselves."}, {"start": "00:31:22", "end": "00:31:26", "text": "And this is [music] where the workshop"}, {"start": "00:31:24", "end": "00:31:28", "text": "of life begins."}, {"start": "00:31:26", "end": "00:31:30", "text": "Because it's easy to live your truth"}, {"start": "00:31:28", "end": "00:31:31", "text": "when you're in a new age workshop or"}, {"start": "00:31:30", "end": "00:31:34", "text": "you're isolated in a monastery in the"}, {"start": "00:31:31", "end": "00:31:35", "text": "mountaintop halfway around the world."}, {"start": "00:31:34", "end": "00:31:37", "text": "Where the challenge comes,"}, {"start": "00:31:35", "end": "00:31:39", "text": "go to a public school, go to your place"}, {"start": "00:31:37", "end": "00:31:41", "text": "of work, [music] your employment, your"}, {"start": "00:31:39", "end": "00:31:44", "text": "friends, your family."}, {"start": "00:31:41", "end": "00:31:47", "text": "Uh and live what you know to be true in"}, {"start": "00:31:44", "end": "00:31:48", "text": "the presence of others regardless of"}, {"start": "00:31:47", "end": "00:31:50", "text": "their beliefs or [music] not. But here's"}, {"start": "00:31:48", "end": "00:31:53", "text": "the key,"}, {"start": "00:31:50", "end": "00:31:55", "text": "to live it in a way that's kind."}, {"start": "00:31:53", "end": "00:31:58", "text": "To be kind [music] to others."}, {"start": "00:31:55", "end": "00:32:00", "text": "Not critical, not judgemental because"}, {"start": "00:31:58", "end": "00:32:01", "text": "someone else may not see or think the"}, {"start": "00:32:00", "end": "00:32:04", "text": "same way."}, {"start": "00:32:01", "end": "00:32:06", "text": "This is where compassion comes in. But"}, {"start": "00:32:04", "end": "00:32:09", "text": "compassion"}, {"start": "00:32:06", "end": "00:32:10", "text": "is the end of a sequence. First, we must"}, {"start": "00:32:09", "end": "00:32:13", "text": "have"}, {"start": "00:32:10", "end": "00:32:14", "text": "s- uh sympathy. Then we must have"}, {"start": "00:32:13", "end": "00:32:16", "text": "empathy"}, {"start": "00:32:14", "end": "00:32:17", "text": "to gain compassion. You cannot have"}, {"start": "00:32:16", "end": "00:32:17", "text": "compassion"}, {"start": "00:32:17", "end": "00:32:19", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:32:17", "end": "00:32:20", "text": ">> without the empathy and the sympathy."}, {"start": "00:32:19", "end": "00:32:23", "text": "And we've got to be able to You have to"}, {"start": "00:32:20", "end": "00:32:25", "text": "sympathize with someone else"}, {"start": "00:32:23", "end": "00:32:27", "text": "who's having a difficult time."}, {"start": "00:32:25", "end": "00:32:29", "text": "That's recognizing the suffering."}, {"start": "00:32:27", "end": "00:32:31", "text": "Empathizing [music] is feeling that"}, {"start": "00:32:29", "end": "00:32:34", "text": "suffering with us."}, {"start": "00:32:31", "end": "00:32:35", "text": "With them. Compassion is the ability to"}, {"start": "00:32:34", "end": "00:32:38", "text": "witness [music]"}, {"start": "00:32:35", "end": "00:32:40", "text": "the suffering of another without judging"}, {"start": "00:32:38", "end": "00:32:41", "text": "it and without getting lost in the"}, {"start": "00:32:40", "end": "00:32:44", "text": "suffering."}, {"start": "00:32:41", "end": "00:32:47", "text": "So, this is where those people, the very"}, {"start": "00:32:44", "end": "00:32:48", "text": "situation that she's describing, is our"}, {"start": "00:32:47", "end": "00:32:50", "text": "greatest workshop [music]"}, {"start": "00:32:48", "end": "00:32:53", "text": "because it's where we learn"}, {"start": "00:32:50", "end": "00:32:54", "text": "to be and live our own truth in the"}, {"start": "00:32:53", "end": "00:32:56", "text": "presence of a [music] world that doesn't"}, {"start": "00:32:54", "end": "00:33:00", "text": "always support that truth. The whole"}, {"start": "00:32:56", "end": "00:33:02", "text": "idea in the the abbot in Tibet was so"}, {"start": "00:33:00", "end": "00:33:04", "text": "very clear [music] when he said this,"}, {"start": "00:33:02", "end": "00:33:06", "text": "the the new abbot. And I asked him the"}, {"start": "00:33:04", "end": "00:33:08", "text": "question through the translator. [music]"}, {"start": "00:33:06", "end": "00:33:10", "text": "I said, \"What is the force that holds"}, {"start": "00:33:08", "end": "00:33:11", "text": "the universe together?\" We had already"}, {"start": "00:33:10", "end": "00:33:14", "text": "had the conversation [music] that there"}, {"start": "00:33:11", "end": "00:33:16", "text": "is something out there. So, I was asking"}, {"start": "00:33:14", "end": "00:33:18", "text": "for specifics from [music] his"}, {"start": "00:33:16", "end": "00:33:19", "text": "uh his Buddhist Tibetan Buddhist"}, {"start": "00:33:18", "end": "00:33:21", "text": "perspective."}, {"start": "00:33:19", "end": "00:33:22", "text": "I said, \"What is it that [music] holds"}, {"start": "00:33:21", "end": "00:33:25", "text": "the universe together? What connects"}, {"start": "00:33:22", "end": "00:33:26", "text": "everything in the universe?\""}, {"start": "00:33:25", "end": "00:33:28", "text": "And he had a conversation with the"}, {"start": "00:33:26", "end": "00:33:30", "text": "translator and then he answered me with"}, {"start": "00:33:28", "end": "00:33:32", "text": "one word. He said, \"Compassion.\""}, {"start": "00:33:30", "end": "00:33:35", "text": "And I said, \"Well, wait a minute."}, {"start": "00:33:32", "end": "00:33:37", "text": "Uh I thought that compassion [music] is"}, {"start": "00:33:35", "end": "00:33:39", "text": "a feeling, an experience that we have in"}, {"start": "00:33:37", "end": "00:33:39", "text": "our bodies and our hearts."}, {"start": "00:33:39", "end": "00:33:42", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:33:39", "end": "00:33:44", "text": ">> And I'm asking you, what is the force"}, {"start": "00:33:42", "end": "00:33:45", "text": "that holds everything together?\" And he"}, {"start": "00:33:44", "end": "00:33:47", "text": "answered me again. He said,"}, {"start": "00:33:45", "end": "00:33:48", "text": "\"Compassion.\" And I said, \"Well, is it"}, {"start": "00:33:47", "end": "00:33:50", "text": "Is it an experience or is it a force?\""}, {"start": "00:33:48", "end": "00:33:52", "text": "And he said, \"Yes."}, {"start": "00:33:50", "end": "00:33:57", "text": "It is both.\" And to me that is [music]"}, {"start": "00:33:52", "end": "00:34:00", "text": "so powerful because it reminds us that"}, {"start": "00:33:57", "end": "00:34:01", "text": "we are born into this world with a power"}, {"start": "00:34:00", "end": "00:34:02", "text": "uh in our hearts"}, {"start": "00:34:01", "end": "00:34:04", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:34:02", "end": "00:34:07", "text": ">> uh that we already have that we don't"}, {"start": "00:34:04", "end": "00:34:10", "text": "have to learn. It's already there. Uh"}, {"start": "00:34:07", "end": "00:34:13", "text": "and it's a power that aligns us with the"}, {"start": "00:34:10", "end": "00:34:15", "text": "the framework, with the matrix of the"}, {"start": "00:34:13", "end": "00:34:17", "text": "universe itself [music] as Max Planck"}, {"start": "00:34:15", "end": "00:34:18", "text": "called this field of energy, the matrix"}, {"start": "00:34:17", "end": "00:34:21", "text": "in 1944."}, {"start": "00:34:18", "end": "00:34:23", "text": "He coined the term, the matrix, [music]"}, {"start": "00:34:21", "end": "00:34:25", "text": "uh to describe this this network of"}, {"start": "00:34:23", "end": "00:34:27", "text": "energy that holds particles of the"}, {"start": "00:34:25", "end": "00:34:29", "text": "universe together. And from the Buddhist"}, {"start": "00:34:27", "end": "00:34:32", "text": "perspective,"}, {"start": "00:34:29", "end": "00:34:34", "text": "uh in Tibetan Buddhist perspective, they"}, {"start": "00:34:32", "end": "00:34:36", "text": "recognize that the [music] experience of"}, {"start": "00:34:34", "end": "00:34:38", "text": "compassion, it's not just"}, {"start": "00:34:36", "end": "00:34:40", "text": "feeling sorry for someone or saying,"}, {"start": "00:34:38", "end": "00:34:42", "text": "[music] \"Oh, poor person, you know,"}, {"start": "00:34:40", "end": "00:34:44", "text": "they're having a bad day.\" In West"}, {"start": "00:34:42", "end": "00:34:46", "text": "Western tradition, sometimes people"}, {"start": "00:34:44", "end": "00:34:48", "text": "think of compassion is that way. And"}, {"start": "00:34:46", "end": "00:34:50", "text": "that may be a part of it, but from the"}, {"start": "00:34:48", "end": "00:34:54", "text": "Buddhist perspective, [music] it is much"}, {"start": "00:34:50", "end": "00:34:57", "text": "deeper than that. It is living life uh,"}, {"start": "00:34:54", "end": "00:35:00", "text": "awake and conscious [music] and present"}, {"start": "00:34:57", "end": "00:35:03", "text": "in our hearts the moment knowing that"}, {"start": "00:35:00", "end": "00:35:05", "text": "[music] we are part of all that is and"}, {"start": "00:35:03", "end": "00:35:07", "text": "that what we do every moment of life is"}, {"start": "00:35:05", "end": "00:35:08", "text": "affecting not only us, it's affecting"}, {"start": "00:35:07", "end": "00:35:12", "text": "[music] the other side of the universe"}, {"start": "00:35:08", "end": "00:35:14", "text": "and consciously living our lives"}, {"start": "00:35:12", "end": "00:35:15", "text": "uh, respecting and honoring that"}, {"start": "00:35:14", "end": "00:35:17", "text": "relationship. It's such a beautiful"}, {"start": "00:35:15", "end": "00:35:19", "text": "[music] way to live."}, {"start": "00:35:17", "end": "00:35:20", "text": "Now that scientists have been able to"}, {"start": "00:35:19", "end": "00:35:23", "text": "show us"}, {"start": "00:35:20", "end": "00:35:25", "text": "through the imagery of the Chandra X-ray"}, {"start": "00:35:23", "end": "00:35:25", "text": "Space Observatory,"}, {"start": "00:35:25", "end": "00:35:27", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:35:25", "end": "00:35:30", "text": ">> the mission of this observatory was to"}, {"start": "00:35:27", "end": "00:35:31", "text": "detect invisible fields of energy in the"}, {"start": "00:35:30", "end": "00:35:31", "text": "universe."}, {"start": "00:35:31", "end": "00:35:32", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:35:31", "end": "00:35:35", "text": ">> So, while scientists have always"}, {"start": "00:35:32", "end": "00:35:37", "text": "suspected uh, that up to 90% of the"}, {"start": "00:35:35", "end": "00:35:39", "text": "universe, they say is empty. And this"}, {"start": "00:35:37", "end": "00:35:41", "text": "observatory now is showing us that in"}, {"start": "00:35:39", "end": "00:35:43", "text": "the space that we once [music] believed"}, {"start": "00:35:41", "end": "00:35:45", "text": "was empty, it's not empty. There's a lot"}, {"start": "00:35:43", "end": "00:35:47", "text": "of energy in there and it looks like"}, {"start": "00:35:45", "end": "00:35:49", "text": "[music] a web or in that of energy."}, {"start": "00:35:47", "end": "00:35:51", "text": "Uh, and it is the compassion in our"}, {"start": "00:35:49", "end": "00:35:53", "text": "hearts that creates the waves, the"}, {"start": "00:35:51", "end": "00:35:56", "text": "[music] belief waves of electrical and"}, {"start": "00:35:53", "end": "00:35:57", "text": "magnetic energy that align us with this"}, {"start": "00:35:56", "end": "00:36:00", "text": "with this field."}, {"start": "00:35:57", "end": "00:36:03", "text": "This is our technical [music] Western"}, {"start": "00:36:00", "end": "00:36:06", "text": "male-dominated, schematically oriented"}, {"start": "00:36:03", "end": "00:36:08", "text": "scientific way of describing, and it"}, {"start": "00:36:06", "end": "00:36:10", "text": "sounds very complex."}, {"start": "00:36:08", "end": "00:36:11", "text": "The Buddhist monk, the abbot, he says,"}, {"start": "00:36:10", "end": "00:36:13", "text": "[music] \"Compassion.\" And he says the"}, {"start": "00:36:11", "end": "00:36:14", "text": "same thing."}, {"start": "00:36:13", "end": "00:36:16", "text": "Uh, and they have always known this."}, {"start": "00:36:14", "end": "00:36:17", "text": "This is"}, {"start": "00:36:16", "end": "00:36:19", "text": "where it it's so fascinating to me"}, {"start": "00:36:17", "end": "00:36:21", "text": "because"}, {"start": "00:36:19", "end": "00:36:23", "text": "science is a language"}, {"start": "00:36:21", "end": "00:36:25", "text": "and it is only one language that"}, {"start": "00:36:23", "end": "00:36:26", "text": "describes our world and our relationship"}, {"start": "00:36:25", "end": "00:36:29", "text": "to the world."}, {"start": "00:36:26", "end": "00:36:30", "text": "There are other languages, and science"}, {"start": "00:36:29", "end": "00:36:32", "text": "[music] is a relatively new language."}, {"start": "00:36:30", "end": "00:36:35", "text": "It's only about 400 years old. Other"}, {"start": "00:36:32", "end": "00:36:37", "text": "languages are 7,000 years old in the"}, {"start": "00:36:35", "end": "00:36:39", "text": "case of the Vedas."}, {"start": "00:36:37", "end": "00:36:42", "text": "So, science"}, {"start": "00:36:39", "end": "00:36:42", "text": "is good. However, it it's incomplete."}, {"start": "00:36:42", "end": "00:36:44", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:36:42", "end": "00:36:46", "text": ">> And we know that science does not have"}, {"start": "00:36:44", "end": "00:36:49", "text": "all of the complete answers."}, {"start": "00:36:46", "end": "00:36:51", "text": "So, when we go into the other traditions"}, {"start": "00:36:49", "end": "00:36:53", "text": "to to see how they describe our"}, {"start": "00:36:51", "end": "00:36:53", "text": "relationship to the universe,"}, {"start": "00:36:53", "end": "00:36:55", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:36:53", "end": "00:36:57", "text": ">> in some ways they're they're much more"}, {"start": "00:36:55", "end": "00:37:00", "text": "complete. So, Western science now,"}, {"start": "00:36:57", "end": "00:37:02", "text": "modern science is only arriving in the"}, {"start": "00:37:00", "end": "00:37:04", "text": "last years of the 20th century and in"}, {"start": "00:37:02", "end": "00:37:06", "text": "early 21st century. They have just"}, {"start": "00:37:04", "end": "00:37:08", "text": "arrived at the understanding that the"}, {"start": "00:37:06", "end": "00:37:10", "text": "field is out there, and they're [music]"}, {"start": "00:37:08", "end": "00:37:12", "text": "saying, \"What do we do with this field?\""}, {"start": "00:37:10", "end": "00:37:13", "text": "On the one hand, and on the other hand,"}, {"start": "00:37:12", "end": "00:37:16", "text": "this is the place where the ancient"}, {"start": "00:37:13", "end": "00:37:19", "text": "traditions have always begun. Science"}, {"start": "00:37:16", "end": "00:37:21", "text": "has spent 400 years debating and [music]"}, {"start": "00:37:19", "end": "00:37:23", "text": "trying to prove whether or not"}, {"start": "00:37:21", "end": "00:37:25", "text": "everything is connected, while these"}, {"start": "00:37:23", "end": "00:37:27", "text": "ancient traditions began with the"}, {"start": "00:37:25", "end": "00:37:27", "text": "understanding, \"Of course everything is"}, {"start": "00:37:27", "end": "00:37:28", "text": "connected.\""}, {"start": "00:37:27", "end": "00:37:30", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:37:28", "end": "00:37:32", "text": ">> They didn't spend 400 years proving the"}, {"start": "00:37:30", "end": "00:37:34", "text": "connection. Their 400 years was used"}, {"start": "00:37:32", "end": "00:37:34", "text": "exploring how we"}, {"start": "00:37:34", "end": "00:37:36", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:37:34", "end": "00:37:39", "text": ">> may use that connection to become better"}, {"start": "00:37:36", "end": "00:37:41", "text": "people and create a better world. And"}, {"start": "00:37:39", "end": "00:37:42", "text": "and for me, as a scientist, this is the"}, {"start": "00:37:41", "end": "00:37:44", "text": "value"}, {"start": "00:37:42", "end": "00:37:46", "text": "of looking into our [music] most ancient"}, {"start": "00:37:44", "end": "00:37:48", "text": "and cherished traditions, honoring our"}, {"start": "00:37:46", "end": "00:37:49", "text": "past. Don't throw it out the window,"}, {"start": "00:37:48", "end": "00:37:49", "text": "honor it."}, {"start": "00:37:49", "end": "00:37:53", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:37:49", "end": "00:37:55", "text": ">> And marry that wisdom with the best"}, {"start": "00:37:53", "end": "00:37:57", "text": "science of today."}, {"start": "00:37:55", "end": "00:37:59", "text": "And together they create a greater"}, {"start": "00:37:57", "end": "00:38:02", "text": "wisdom than either would give us"}, {"start": "00:37:59", "end": "00:38:04", "text": "individually. And I think that we need"}, {"start": "00:38:02", "end": "00:38:06", "text": "that wisdom now at this time in history"}, {"start": "00:38:04", "end": "00:38:07", "text": "to solve the problems"}, {"start": "00:38:06", "end": "00:38:08", "text": "that we see in our lives."}, {"start": "00:38:07", "end": "00:38:08", "text": "Our"}, {"start": "00:38:08", "end": "00:38:11", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:38:08", "end": "00:38:14", "text": ">> creation, the consciousness, is"}, {"start": "00:38:11", "end": "00:38:16", "text": "constantly informing us"}, {"start": "00:38:14", "end": "00:38:19", "text": "of ourselves through our creations. The"}, {"start": "00:38:16", "end": "00:38:20", "text": "things that we create, art, music,"}, {"start": "00:38:19", "end": "00:38:22", "text": "books,"}, {"start": "00:38:20", "end": "00:38:23", "text": "the The that we create that we believe"}, {"start": "00:38:22", "end": "00:38:26", "text": "are entertainment or creative"}, {"start": "00:38:23", "end": "00:38:26", "text": "expression, in addition to those things,"}, {"start": "00:38:26", "end": "00:38:29", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:38:26", "end": "00:38:31", "text": ">> if they are actually us informing us of"}, {"start": "00:38:29", "end": "00:38:34", "text": "ourselves, informing us of our"}, {"start": "00:38:31", "end": "00:38:36", "text": "relationship to the field so that we can"}, {"start": "00:38:34", "end": "00:38:39", "text": "remind ourselves of this very powerful"}, {"start": "00:38:36", "end": "00:38:41", "text": "internal technology, prayer is a perfect"}, {"start": "00:38:39", "end": "00:38:41", "text": "example of what I'm talking about here."}, {"start": "00:38:41", "end": "00:38:43", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:38:41", "end": "00:38:46", "text": ">> Now, I'm going to do this in a very"}, {"start": "00:38:43", "end": "00:38:47", "text": "condensed format to give you the sense"}, {"start": "00:38:46", "end": "00:38:49", "text": "for what I'm saying, and then you can"}, {"start": "00:38:47", "end": "00:38:50", "text": "take this idea and you can apply it in"}, {"start": "00:38:49", "end": "00:38:53", "text": "your own prayers. I'm going to give you"}, {"start": "00:38:50", "end": "00:38:55", "text": "a template [music] to do just that."}, {"start": "00:38:53", "end": "00:38:56", "text": "I worked in the corporations and as a"}, {"start": "00:38:55", "end": "00:38:59", "text": "scientist, as a senior computer systems"}, {"start": "00:38:56", "end": "00:39:00", "text": "designer during the Cold War years. I"}, {"start": "00:38:59", "end": "00:39:02", "text": "understand computer systems really"}, {"start": "00:39:00", "end": "00:39:04", "text": "[music] well. And one of the things that"}, {"start": "00:39:02", "end": "00:39:06", "text": "amazed me is no matter how complex or"}, {"start": "00:39:04", "end": "00:39:09", "text": "how simple they are, whether we're"}, {"start": "00:39:06", "end": "00:39:11", "text": "writing 3 million lines of code, which"}, {"start": "00:39:09", "end": "00:39:12", "text": "happens with some of the systems that"}, {"start": "00:39:11", "end": "00:39:12", "text": "are being used"}, {"start": "00:39:12", "end": "00:39:14", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:39:12", "end": "00:39:16", "text": ">> uh in the in the research industry, or"}, {"start": "00:39:14", "end": "00:39:18", "text": "or just a couple lines of code, the"}, {"start": "00:39:16", "end": "00:39:20", "text": "programs will always follow the same"}, {"start": "00:39:18", "end": "00:39:23", "text": "template. Here's the template."}, {"start": "00:39:20", "end": "00:39:25", "text": "There is always [music] an introduction"}, {"start": "00:39:23", "end": "00:39:26", "text": "that tells the program what is about to"}, {"start": "00:39:25", "end": "00:39:28", "text": "happen. They're called declaration"}, {"start": "00:39:26", "end": "00:39:31", "text": "[music] statements. Then, following the"}, {"start": "00:39:28", "end": "00:39:32", "text": "declaration, there is the work, the body"}, {"start": "00:39:31", "end": "00:39:34", "text": "of the program that's actually doing the"}, {"start": "00:39:32", "end": "00:39:36", "text": "calculations. [music]"}, {"start": "00:39:34", "end": "00:39:39", "text": "And then there is a close, something to"}, {"start": "00:39:36", "end": "00:39:41", "text": "bring the program to closure."}, {"start": "00:39:39", "end": "00:39:42", "text": "All right? That is the way the most"}, {"start": "00:39:41", "end": "00:39:45", "text": "sophisticated computer [music] systems"}, {"start": "00:39:42", "end": "00:39:47", "text": "in our world work today. If we are"}, {"start": "00:39:45", "end": "00:39:47", "text": "building in our world,"}, {"start": "00:39:47", "end": "00:39:50", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:39:47", "end": "00:39:53", "text": ">> if consciousness is informing us in our"}, {"start": "00:39:50", "end": "00:39:55", "text": "world, something we know and need to"}, {"start": "00:39:53", "end": "00:39:57", "text": "know about ourselves, then the question"}, {"start": "00:39:55", "end": "00:39:59", "text": "is, is it possible that those most"}, {"start": "00:39:57", "end": "00:40:00", "text": "sophisticated computers can be telling"}, {"start": "00:39:59", "end": "00:40:03", "text": "us [music] something about the way we"}, {"start": "00:40:00", "end": "00:40:04", "text": "communicate with the matrix? The answer"}, {"start": "00:40:03", "end": "00:40:06", "text": "is yes."}, {"start": "00:40:04", "end": "00:40:09", "text": "The template [music] that allows the"}, {"start": "00:40:06", "end": "00:40:10", "text": "most sophisticated computers in the way"}, {"start": "00:40:09", "end": "00:40:13", "text": "to work the way [music] it works is"}, {"start": "00:40:10", "end": "00:40:16", "text": "precisely the template that allows your"}, {"start": "00:40:13", "end": "00:40:17", "text": "prayers to work the way they work. And"}, {"start": "00:40:16", "end": "00:40:19", "text": "your prayers, when you build your"}, {"start": "00:40:17", "end": "00:40:21", "text": "prayers, I'm going to invite you to do"}, {"start": "00:40:19", "end": "00:40:23", "text": "precisely this. The first statement of"}, {"start": "00:40:21", "end": "00:40:25", "text": "your prayer, [music] a declaration"}, {"start": "00:40:23", "end": "00:40:28", "text": "statement, tell the field, tell the"}, {"start": "00:40:25", "end": "00:40:29", "text": "matrix, tell consciousness, tell God"}, {"start": "00:40:28", "end": "00:40:31", "text": "what it is that you're about [music] to"}, {"start": "00:40:29", "end": "00:40:34", "text": "do. In a single phrase or a brief"}, {"start": "00:40:31", "end": "00:40:36", "text": "sentence, be be concise. You can simply"}, {"start": "00:40:34", "end": "00:40:38", "text": "say, \"This is a prayer of healing for my"}, {"start": "00:40:36", "end": "00:40:39", "text": "body.\" or \"Prayer of healing [music]"}, {"start": "00:40:38", "end": "00:40:41", "text": "regarding my loved ones.\""}, {"start": "00:40:39", "end": "00:40:43", "text": "And then in the code,"}, {"start": "00:40:41", "end": "00:40:45", "text": "what is it that you want to happen? But"}, {"start": "00:40:43", "end": "00:40:46", "text": "come from the place that it's already"}, {"start": "00:40:45", "end": "00:40:47", "text": "[music] happened. Give thanks for what"}, {"start": "00:40:46", "end": "00:40:50", "text": "is already already occurred. I give"}, {"start": "00:40:47", "end": "00:40:51", "text": "thanks for the perfection of my body,"}, {"start": "00:40:50", "end": "00:40:53", "text": "for the healing of my body, for the"}, {"start": "00:40:51", "end": "00:40:55", "text": "healing of my loved ones,"}, {"start": "00:40:53", "end": "00:40:56", "text": "for the healing of my relationship. All"}, {"start": "00:40:55", "end": "00:40:59", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "00:40:56", "end": "00:41:01", "text": "This is the the body of the code. The"}, {"start": "00:40:59", "end": "00:41:01", "text": "closure, so beautiful and so powerful."}, {"start": "00:41:01", "end": "00:41:03", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:41:01", "end": "00:41:05", "text": ">> And the closure we're telling the field"}, {"start": "00:41:03", "end": "00:41:07", "text": "that it's already done."}, {"start": "00:41:05", "end": "00:41:10", "text": "And for the closure, the texts invite us"}, {"start": "00:41:07", "end": "00:41:11", "text": "[music] to use the original Aramaic."}, {"start": "00:41:10", "end": "00:41:13", "text": "The original Aramaic, there's something"}, {"start": "00:41:11", "end": "00:41:17", "text": "about these words. Let me share them"}, {"start": "00:41:13", "end": "00:41:18", "text": "with you. The words [music] la alam amen"}, {"start": "00:41:17", "end": "00:41:22", "text": "amen."}, {"start": "00:41:18", "end": "00:41:24", "text": "La alam amen amen. At the end of your"}, {"start": "00:41:22", "end": "00:41:27", "text": "prayer, what does that mean? It means,"}, {"start": "00:41:24", "end": "00:41:30", "text": "[music] \"I seal this prayer in trust, in"}, {"start": "00:41:27", "end": "00:41:31", "text": "faith, and truth.\""}, {"start": "00:41:30", "end": "00:41:34", "text": "Amen."}, {"start": "00:41:31", "end": "00:41:36", "text": "I can't think of a more powerful,"}, {"start": "00:41:34", "end": "00:41:38", "text": "more sophisticated,"}, {"start": "00:41:36", "end": "00:41:40", "text": "more"}, {"start": "00:41:38", "end": "00:41:41", "text": "beautiful technology that has been left"}, {"start": "00:41:40", "end": "00:41:43", "text": "to us than our ability [music] to"}, {"start": "00:41:41", "end": "00:41:44", "text": "communicate with this field in a"}, {"start": "00:41:43", "end": "00:41:46", "text": "meaningful way. And I've just shared"}, {"start": "00:41:44", "end": "00:41:48", "text": "with you one template. There [music] may"}, {"start": "00:41:46", "end": "00:41:51", "text": "be others. This is a very powerful"}, {"start": "00:41:48", "end": "00:41:53", "text": "template that was left to us 2,500 years"}, {"start": "00:41:51", "end": "00:41:55", "text": "ago that allows [music] us to do just"}, {"start": "00:41:53", "end": "00:41:57", "text": "that."}, {"start": "00:41:55", "end": "00:41:58", "text": "The bottom line of everything I'm saying"}, {"start": "00:41:57", "end": "00:42:00", "text": "to you is through the fifth mode of"}, {"start": "00:41:58", "end": "00:42:01", "text": "prayer, our feeling-based prayer,"}, {"start": "00:42:00", "end": "00:42:03", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "00:42:01", "end": "00:42:06", "text": "we are given the ability to communicate"}, {"start": "00:42:03", "end": "00:42:08", "text": "directly with the possibilities exist in"}, {"start": "00:42:06", "end": "00:42:11", "text": "the universal field in this divine"}, {"start": "00:42:08", "end": "00:42:14", "text": "matrix, and to do so in a language that"}, {"start": "00:42:11", "end": "00:42:14", "text": "the matrix recognizes."}]

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You are probably more than you have"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "even dared to allow yourself to imagine"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "yourself to be."}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "There's something inside of us"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "that wants to hold back. There's"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "something inside of us that says we're"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "not worthy of the greatness that is"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "available to us."}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "Well, this book, Pure Human, I wrote"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "this very specifically for this time in"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "the history."}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "This book is a celebration. 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That's just one of the flaws."}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "Well, empathy, sympathy, compassion are"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "also being seen in some circles as a"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "human flaw."}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "I don't know about you, those are some"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "of the things that I cherish most about"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "our species."}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "There's a movement right now to change"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "this world and you're seeing the"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "consequences of that movement in your"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "everyday life. 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My goal today and my goal in"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "this book is to give you reasons to"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "think differently about your body, to"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "think differently about yourself."}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "To at the very least, I'm hoping"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "that you leave this program today with"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "a deeper appreciation for what it means"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "to be human."}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "And I'm going to take it even a step"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "further. I'm hoping that we all walk"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "away with a deeper sense of pride."}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "Because I am proud to be a human. 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And"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "here's the thing."}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "Once we embark on that path and we begin"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "to give our humanness away, we cannot go"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "back."}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "It's not like a little dial"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "where you can say, \"Hey, let's let's try"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "this for a year."}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "If it doesn't work, we'll go back to the"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "way we used to be.\" You can't do that."}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "And here's the reason."}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "The human body is so sophisticated"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "that when we embrace a new technology"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "into our bodies, our bodies, our DNA,"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "our cells, our neurons, they morph and"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "they adapt to that new technology. They"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "become different. There's nothing to go"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "back to because your body has now"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "adapted to the new technology that"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "you're being invited to place into your"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "body. I'm going to give you the reasons"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "why this I, in my opinion, is not a good"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "It's not a healthy thing, per se,"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "in mass"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "for everyone. But, I'm also going to"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "show you the new science, the new"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "discoveries that that show you in many"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "cases"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "our natural biology meets and it even"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "exceeds the capabilities of the"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "technology. And that That's a"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "mind-blower."}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "Young people are in my programs all the"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "time. They've been taught to worship"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "computer chips and to worship AI."}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "AI is fast. Computer chips are fast."}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "They're efficient, no doubt. And I like"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "technology outside my body."}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "When you begin to see what the studies"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "are showing about human neurons, human"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "biology, human systems, what you begin"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "to see is we not only meet, we exceed"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "many of those potentials"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "because we are literally a highly"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "advanced"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "technologically sophisticated technology"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "in ourselves. But, we're a soft"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "technology, not a hard technology, not"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "like a a computer chip. We're soft"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "technology. Cell membranes, neurons,"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "DNA. So, this is where we're going to go"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "with this. The better you know yourself,"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "the less you're going to fear your own"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "power."}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "The easier it is to embrace that power"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "in your life."}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "So, there's a context. And I, you know,"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "often so often we have a spiritually"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "oriented program, it's isolated. So, so"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "you learn about the spirituality, but"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "doesn't connect to the world out there."}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "So, you learn all these cool things,"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "meditations and affirmations and all"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "that. Then you go out into the world and"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "you go, \"Whoa."}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "What does what I learned have to do with"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "the world out there?\" I'm going to share"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "with you a context. I don't want to"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "dwell on it, but I want you to know"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "there is a context, there is a"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "structure. Let's talk about this. I"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "think you all know we're living in a"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "time of extremes."}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "Social extremes, political extremes,"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "economic extremes,"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "uh refugee extremes in the world,"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "climate extremes, religious extremes,"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "emotional extremes."}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "We're We're living in this world of"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "extremes, and every one of them is"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "important."}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "And I want to be clear about that. I I'm"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "not saying they aren't important, but I"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "am saying this."}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "In many cases, we have allowed the"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "extremes of the world around us and the"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "media that trumps up these extremes,"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "we've allowed those extremes to become"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "diversions"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "in our lives."}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "Diversions from something much, much"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "deeper"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "that is happening."}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "And it's playing out in your life and"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "your world, my life and my world. And"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "once we recognize what this is, then the"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "pieces begin to fall into place. And"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "then it's much easier to make sense out"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "of the chaos in the world. And that's"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "where I'm I'm going to go with this."}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "Something is missing"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "in our story."}]

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It's the same experience in"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "humanness now that we had 2,500 years"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "ago. And what the ancient traditions and"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "the text say is that our experience is"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "only an experience, not positive, not"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "negative,"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "until [music] we judge our personal"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "experience, until we give it an"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "importance based on our perceptions and"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "our beliefs. And until we do that, it is"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "simply an experience. So, so the"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "question is,"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:48", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:51", "text": ">> why are we judging ourselves and how do"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "we judge ourselves? And the healing"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "comes from allowing us to feel whatever"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "it is that the world [music] gives to us"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "to feel. And to acknowledge that feeling"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "and say, \"Hmm, yes, this is a feeling."}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "Sometimes it's a good feeling, sometimes"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "it's a bad feeling.\" But to allow the"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "feeling to unfold without judging what"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "the feeling means or being afraid of how"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "it may affect something else in the"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "world."}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "The feelings that we call negative are"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "simply indicators, indications that"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "something has crossed our path that now"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "is inviting [music]"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "us to examine this experience. Why do I"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "feel this way? What is it saying to me?"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "And they become a problem only when we"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "ignore them, when they go unresolved,"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "unreconciled feeling is the term that we"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "that we use."}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "When the feelings are unresolved and we"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "bury"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "uh or mask our hurt or our frustration"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "or our anger or our jealousy or our"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "rage, and we do that month after month,"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "year after year, and that feeling is"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "buried inside of us looking for an"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "expression. That's where we begin to"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "have the problems. But the feeling"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "itself, when we have a feeling, I have"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "negative feelings uh and I don't judge"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "them. I say, \"Hmm, you know, I'm having"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "a feeling about this person uh or about"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "this situation.\" And then I have to"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "[music] check with myself and say, \"Why"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "am I having this feeling? What does it"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "mean to me? What is it telling me uh"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "about my personal beliefs and my"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "personal experience?\""}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:24", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:27", "text": ">> And then in that way, the negative"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "feelings become our best friends because"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "they actually serve us rather than hurt"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "us. And it's all based in our beliefs"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "and the"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:35", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:37", "text": ">> the the judgment uh that we attach to"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "that experience."}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "The ancient Essenes"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "tell us in their texts 2,500 years ago,"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "very precise language"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "that every human lives in this Earth in"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "three worlds at the same time. We live"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "in the world of thought"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "the world of feeling"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "and the world of emotion. And their"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "texts actually say to us, \"When these"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "three become one, when the thought and"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "the [music] feeling and the emotion are"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "merged or married together into a single"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "potent force, then when you say to the"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "mountain move, the mountain will move.\""}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "The Zohar describes how Moses was"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "enveloped during his ascent [music]"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "by a mysterious cloud of unknown"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "substance and unknown origin."}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "The cloud became so dense [music] that"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "he could no longer see ahead of him, nor"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "could he be seen by those who were"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "watching him from below the cloud."}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "Moses didn't know what was happening and"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "what the cloud meant or what to expect."}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "He didn't know if he'd ever reunite with"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "his family, his friends, and his"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "followers again. And it was during this"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "time of uncertainty and fear that Moses"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "composed and recited Psalm 91 for his"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "own protection."}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "And for reasons that he attributed to"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "the power of this prayer, Moses in fact"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "was protected. [music]"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "He continued to climb until he reached"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "the top of Mount Sinai, where he"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "received the stone tablets inscribed"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "with instructions that have been the"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "primary law for the followers of the"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "Jewish and the Christian faith for the"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "last 3,000 plus years."}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "Although Moses original prayer in its"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "entirety consisted of 16 verses, it's"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "often abbreviated to only the first two"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "verses that follow for ease of use and"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "when time is of the essence."}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "The abbreviated prayer"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "goes as follows."}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "He that dwelleth in the secret place of"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "the most high shall abide under the"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "shadow of the almighty. I will say of"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "the Lord, he is my refuge and my"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "fortress, my God in him will I trust."}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "Well, a closer look at this prayer"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "reveals that the source of the"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "protection it provides comes from the"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "deeper layers of the meaning that may be"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "known by those who understand the code."}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "The coded names of God."}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "While entire books have been [music]"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "dedicated to revealing the mystery of"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "Moses prayer protection, in the"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "following discussion I will focus upon"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "[music] the coded names for God that are"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "found throughout the prayer and the"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "protection they provide us starting with"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "the words most high."}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "Coded name number one, most high."}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "The first encoded name of God in this"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "prayer is most high."}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "In biblical Hebrew, this is typically"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "translated from Aramaic, the original"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "language of the scriptures, as El Elyon,"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "meaning God most high or God the"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "highest, indicating that nothing can be"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "greater or more powerful than the"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "essence of the the represented in this"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "name."}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "The application of this word code is"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "clearly seen in the Old Testament book"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "of Genesis,"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "chapter 14, verses 18 through 20."}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "The word state, \"Blessed be Abraham by"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "God most high, creator of the heaven and"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "earth, and blessed be God most high, who"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "delivered your enemies into your hand.\""}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "End of quote."}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "The second of God's hidden names is the"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "word almighty, and is typically [music]"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "translated by Near Eastern scholars from"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "Aramaic as the word Shaddai, meaning"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "almighty or El Shaddai, meaning God"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "almighty."}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "This is one of the seven names of God"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "that are substituted for God's actual"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "name over 6,800 [music]"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "times in the Hebrew Bible. The other six"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "names are Ayah, meaning I will be,"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "Sabaoth,"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "meaning host,"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "Elohim, meaning gods, El, meaning God,"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "and Eloah, also meaning God."}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "We convinced them that we would like to"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "see this library."}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "They took us past these rooms."}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "There's a little window that's covered"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "with brown paper."}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "And this abbot right here, here's the"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "abbot of the monastery. He's the man in"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "the very back. I apologize, you can't"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "see my pointer, but he's the man in the"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "very center."}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "I asked this abbot, \"Can we look inside"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "that room?\" And he said, \"No, it's not"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "possible.\""}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "And I said, \"Please.\" And he said, \"We"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "cannot.\""}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "And I said, \"We've come a long way just"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "to see this place.\" He said, \"Okay.\""}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "But he said, \"No photograph."}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "No photograph.\""}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "So, I do not have a photograph. I want"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "to tell you what's in this room."}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "Now, this is an old monastery."}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "They bake their bread in the sun. They"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "use oil for the lamps. They have no"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "electricity that they use."}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "And we walked into that room and all of"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "a sudden, there is a room full of"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "computers."}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "Apple computer, Macintosh computer, IBM"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "computer,"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "scanners,"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "satellite boxes,"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "and I said, \"What are you doing in this"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "room?\""}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "And the monk became very serious."}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "He said, \"We have been in this monastery"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "1,500 years."}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "And we've been very fortunate"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "because we have never been overrun by a"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "foreign army."}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "We've never been taken over.\""}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "He said, \"But we think that this"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "monastery will be destroyed in our"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "lifetime."}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "We think something will happen that"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "there will be a war in [music] this part"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "of the world and this monastery will be"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "destroyed.\""}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "And he said, \"Before that happens,"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "we will scan every page of every one of"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "our ancient texts onto the World Wide"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "Web to preserve for future generations."}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "And this is what they're doing."}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "Is there a recording all of the texts"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "that are found in this in this library"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "for future generations, putting it up"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "onto the World Wide Web."}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "So, the question, what is in these texts"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "that's so valuable?"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "What is in these old texts that makes"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "them so powerful?"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "Well, some of the things that are in"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "these texts are icons, pictures of"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "Jesus. This"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "this icon was created within 300 years"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "of the death of Jesus"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "from the descriptions of people who"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "lived with him and saw him."}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "This may be one of the closest"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "representations to Jesus"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "that we actually have today."}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "There are old, beautiful, illuminated"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "manuscripts"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "like this."}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "And this is why I brought you to this"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "monastery. I want to share with you one"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "of these texts. One of the texts that"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "was edited from our Christian Bible is"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "in this monastery."}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "And we saw it and you're you'll see a"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "picture of it here. How many have heard"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "of the lost gospel of Thomas?"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "The lost gospel of Thomas. Some of you"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "have heard of that text."}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "Very, very powerful text. The lost"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "gospel of Thomas is powerful"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "because it is believed to be the actual"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "words of Jesus as he was teaching those"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "around him how to use the power of human"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "emotion in his life."}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "I'm going to share two of these images"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "with you."}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "We said earlier"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "to unleash the force of the divine"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "matrix in our lives, first we have to"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "understand how it works. And the science"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "tells us how it works."}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "Secondly, we must speak the language"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "that the divine matrix recognizes and"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "science cannot tell us that. That comes"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "from our past, from our culture, from"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "our history."}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "From those who have learned and used"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "this language for thousands of years."}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "So, this is what we're doing right now."}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "We're learning what did Jesus and what"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "did the great masters say about this"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "this language?"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "Because it's the same whether you're"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "talking Buddhist or Hindu or Christian,"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "pre-Christian traditions, they're all"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "telling us that there is a field of"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "energy and that we have the language to"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "use that field."}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "This is an actual page out of the Gospel"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "of Thomas. So, we know that this this"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "ancient Gospel actually existed. And you"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "can have you can see some of the"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "letters. These are Greek letters. You"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "can actually read some of If you know"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "Greek, you can see some of the Greek"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "letters right here."}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "In the Gospel of Thomas,"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "two very important keys."}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "This was written that right around 300"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "years after the time of Jesus."}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "In this Gospel, okay, so here here's"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "what we're doing."}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "We've been in the Buddhist monasteries"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "in Tibet."}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "And they're telling us that we must that"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "feeling is the prayer, one."}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "Two, that we must feel as if"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "our prayers have already been answered."}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "It's so mysterious, George, that very"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "few scholars even want to talk about"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "because they don't know what to say"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "about it. It's a It's a brief text. It's"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "only about 2,000 lines."}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:33", "text": ">> Sorry. And it is written as if an"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "observer were present the day that the"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "creator [music] created humankind."}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "There's another branch of work that"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "that this follows up on and it is the"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "study of whether or not we are living in"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "a simulation [music]"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "or virtual reality. When we are"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "truly ready for that information, it"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "it's right there. Sometimes"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "this is a perfect example. This This has"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "been around, you know, for 200,000"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "years."}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "So, as I began my search, uh my thinking"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "was"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "if we could really"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "pin down our origins, you know, the"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "the science, the best science of the"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "21st century is now overturning so many"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "of Darwin's ideas. And And by the way,"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "Darwin was open to that. He was willing"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "for his ideas to fall. He He viewed them"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "as stepping stones toward greater"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "understandings."}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "So, Darwin was okay with that. And"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "I I began to see a connection in the"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "texts"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "that was not accounted for in the"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "theories of evolution. And it is a"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "connection that is very controversial"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "today. Now Darwin didn't have access to"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "the tools and the technology. He"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "certainly didn't have the DNA databases"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "that we have today."}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "So this is this is where I began. Part"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "of my job in software development was in"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "writing pattern recognition software."}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "And I've I've searched patterns ever"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "since I was a kid."}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "Sure that it comes very naturally for"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "me. I used to you know look at patterns"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "on flashing patterns on blinking lights"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "on Christmas trees and I mean you know"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "you you see them everywhere."}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "So I thought if there are patterns"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "in nature and we are"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "we are nature, they should show up in"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "our DNA. It was in the 80s when the DNA"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "databases"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "we could actually begin to access them"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "without being part of the research"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "projects."}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "So to make a long story really brief,"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "what I found"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "was in one of the most obscure"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "and ancient of the texts, a book called"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "the Sefer Yetzirah. Which was a it is a"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "Hebrew text that has only been"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "translated a couple of times with a"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "couple of authors into English."}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "It's so mysterious George that very few"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "scholars even want to talk about because"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "they don't know what to say about it."}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "It's a it's a brief text. It's only"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "about 2,000 lines."}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "And it is written as if an observer were"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "present the day that the creator created"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "humankind step by step."}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "However, it's written in a language that"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "doesn't make a lot of sense to us today."}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "It's like Genesis or totally different."}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "It's very different from Genesis. I"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "think Genesis probably partially derived"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "from this text that the Sefer Yetzirah."}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "Which is the book of creation. It"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "literally translates to the book of"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "creation."}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "So"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "it was as if someone were watching the"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "creator actually create the first man."}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "Doing what he did. But it is not written"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "scientifically."}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "The bottom line to what the the text is"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "saying"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "is that through language"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "humankind was created. And that that"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "doesn't make a lot of sense explain that"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "if you take it literally."}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "But as I began to follow the"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "instructions as the author created them"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "in this text, and this George, this is"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "to me this is the power of transcending"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "the boundaries between science and"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "spirituality."}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:54", "text": ">> Better have a number a mysterious number"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "associated with the letters. We don't"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "know where the numbers came from. They"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "never change. A code? They are It's a"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "unique numeric code."}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "The study of that code is called"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "Gematria, and it was actually formalized"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "the laws 32 laws of Gematria were formed"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "in the 2nd century. They were formalized"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "in the 2nd century."}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "And the only way Gematria works is is"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "you cannot deviate from these laws."}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "They're specific laws that apply to the"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "numbers."}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "So our ancestors were also talking about"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "life using words and numbers. So they"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "had the letters of the alphabets and"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "this mysterious number. We're using the"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "periodic table. We've got a whole bunch"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "of numbers."}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:36", "text": ">> Right. My job was to find out which of"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "those numbers equates to the numbers in"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "the ancient alphabets. And if I could do"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "that, my thinking was it would be"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "possible to look at human DNA"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "carbon, oxygen, hydrogen, nitrogen, and"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "different combinations of that"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "and substitute the ancient letters"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "for the numbers based upon this"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "correlation."}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "This in retrospect, it was simple, but"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "not knowing that it took years. It took"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "me 12 years."}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:06", "text": ">> And did you break it? To find what we"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "now know is that the atomic mass of the"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "elements, the numbers of the atomic mass"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "are the numbers that equate to the"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "mysterious letters in the ancient"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "alphabets."}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "What that means is when you look at"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "human DNA"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "or the DNA DNA of of any life"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "it is made of hydrogen, nitrogen,"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "oxygen, carbon and using Gematria the"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "numbers that equate to those become 1 5"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "6 and 3. 3 is with the carbon and when"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "you then take a table when the ancient"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "tables and you're able to to correlate"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "those numbers with the letters"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "what we find George is that the human"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "DNA is is"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "our genome is built in in layers and at"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "the top layer it's it's like every book"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "has an introduction"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "the introduction"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "in every cell of every form of life"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "carbon based DNA the introduction is the"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "same and the first translation literally"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "reads literal"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "God eternal within the body"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:10", "text": ">> [snorts]"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:13", "text": ">> God eternal"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "within the body and the God that is"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "depicted in DNA is actually spelled the"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "way"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:21", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:25", "text": ">> that the name of God was spelled in the"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "ancient text before it was removed 6,800"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "times in the Torah for example"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "the the sacred name of God is believed"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "to be so sacred it cannot be written in"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "its [music] entirety"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:37", "text": ">> Why put it in a code?"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "You know this was"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "so first as a scientist [music]"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "what I have to say is this people say"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "why is the code there? Yeah. And I say I"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "don't know. All I know is that when I"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "followed the instructions in a 3,000"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "year old text and I applied it to the"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "periodic table this is what this is what"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "we have. Next question is it a"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "coincidence?"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "There are no coincidences."}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:18:59", "text": ">> well I have I sent a statistician run"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "the numbers for me and the odds of this"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "happening by chance are 1 to 234,256."}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "234,256"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "to 1 are the or 0.00041%."}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:14", "text": ">> Right. Those are the odds that it's an"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:17", "text": "it's just uh It's just random."}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:19", "text": ">> Just random. Now, those aren't"}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "astronomical odds. I I thought it might"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "be like one to a bajillion, you know?"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "But when you take into account They're"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "still high. not only"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "is"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "the language there, but when you take"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "into account what the words say"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "that those words actually have meaning,"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "God eternal within the body."}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:39", "text": ">> all say that."}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "The The first letter in all human DNA,"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "if you if you can look at the what's"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "called the the genetic code, C T A G. Uh"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "every one of those is made up of"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "combinations of carbon, oxygen,"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "hydrogen, nitrogen."}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:54", "text": ">> And they they are arranged I don't want"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "to be really technical when I talk about"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "this, but they're they're arranged"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:19:57", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:19:59", "text": ">> uh"}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "different numbers of carbon"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "oxygen, hydrogen, nitrogen atoms."}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "So, within each of the DNA bases that"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "make our DNA as it is, there are"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "different combinations of C T A G that"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "break down the different combinations of"}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "God eternal within the body. And the God"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "within ourselves, within our DNA, is"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "literally the the same spelling"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "uh of the the God that was taken from"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "those texts. Now, here's the beauty. I"}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "just have to say this."}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:30", "text": ">> All right. My first fear"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "was I found it in the Hebrew language,"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:35", "text": "and I said, \"Does that mean"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:35", "text": "could it actually be divisive"}, {"start": "00:20:35", "end": "00:20:37", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:20:35", "end": "00:20:40", "text": ">> if it only is found in one language?\""}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "And when the research went to its"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "fruition, what we found is it is in"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:47", "text": "Hebrew and Aramaic and Sanskrit, three"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "of the root languages."}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:52", "text": ">> The same thing. Exactly the same thing."}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:55", "text": "So, in Hebrew, Aramaic, and Sanskrit the"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "the code for those letters translates"}, {"start": "00:20:55", "end": "00:21:00", "text": "precisely the same in the human DNA."}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:21:02", "text": "That's the first layer. In your opinion"}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "that slogan"}, {"start": "00:21:02", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "God eternal is in the body"}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "what did that mean?"}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "What it tells me"}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "uh is because the odds of that happening"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "by chance are are"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "are are steep, it tells me there's an"}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:20", "text": "intentionality. Now, who or what I I"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "don't know the answer to that, but it"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "tells me that uh that the DNA, the way"}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:26", "text": "it's formed, uh is"}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:28", "text": "uh"}, {"start": "00:21:26", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "it is intentional."}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "And then I began to think"}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "uh in our modern world, we're creators,"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "we're artists. Whenever we create"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "something that we're proud of, what's"}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "when we're finished, what's the last"}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:41", "text": "thing we do when we finish it, George?"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:43", "text": "You You tell me. What is the last thing"}, {"start": "00:21:41", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "we do with something? We finish a"}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:45", "text": "painting, and what's the last thing we"}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "do when we finish that painting?"}, {"start": "00:21:45", "end": "00:21:49", "text": ">> You sign it. We put our name on it."}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "Well, it was only in 1994,"}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "and you think back in time, you know,"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "the computers that we take for granted"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "today, they haven't been around forever."}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "In the 1994, some of the kinds of"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "software we deal with today were just in"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "their infancy. Now, having worked in the"}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "industry,"}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:09", "text": "uh developing code to look for patterns,"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "I can attest to this firsthand. When I"}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:15", "text": "was in in the industry in the 1980s,"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "1990s, uh pattern recognition software"}, {"start": "00:22:15", "end": "00:22:20", "text": "is what we were developing, and that"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "pattern recognition software was running"}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:23", "text": "on computers that are very very"}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "different. You know, we didn't have our"}, {"start": "00:22:23", "end": "00:22:28", "text": "Macintosh uh laptops that so many people"}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:31", "text": "use today, and we didn't have the"}, {"start": "00:22:28", "end": "00:22:33", "text": "uh the IBM uh laptops in the very"}, {"start": "00:22:31", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "compact models"}, {"start": "00:22:33", "end": "00:22:37", "text": "running at tremendously high speeds with"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "so much storage that we see today. So,"}, {"start": "00:22:37", "end": "00:22:41", "text": "I'm going to invite you to to keep this"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:44", "text": "in mind as I describe what was happening"}, {"start": "00:22:41", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "in the 1994 study."}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "So, in 1994, the paper was released. The"}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "purpose of the paper was to describe an"}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:55", "text": "experiment that had been run, and the"}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:59", "text": "experiment was to determine if the names"}, {"start": "00:22:55", "end": "00:23:01", "text": "of 32 very famous rabbis could be"}, {"start": "00:22:59", "end": "00:23:03", "text": "identified using algorithms in the Bible"}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "code."}, {"start": "00:23:03", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "Well, without going into all the"}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:07", "text": "technical details right here, I'm just"}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:09", "text": "going to tell you the results were"}, {"start": "00:23:07", "end": "00:23:11", "text": "astounding. They were more than"}, {"start": "00:23:09", "end": "00:23:13", "text": "successful. They exceeded all the"}, {"start": "00:23:11", "end": "00:23:16", "text": "expectations. Not only were the names of"}, {"start": "00:23:13", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "those 32 scholars there, but there was"}, {"start": "00:23:16", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "additional information that was not even"}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:21", "text": "queried. It was coming up with their"}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:22", "text": "names."}, {"start": "00:23:21", "end": "00:23:23", "text": "Well, this is where it gets really,"}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:26", "text": "really interesting."}, {"start": "00:23:23", "end": "00:23:30", "text": "Because that idea, that theory was"}, {"start": "00:23:26", "end": "00:23:33", "text": "retested a few years later, 1997."}, {"start": "00:23:30", "end": "00:23:36", "text": "During an unprecedented experiment that"}, {"start": "00:23:33", "end": "00:23:38", "text": "lasted 440 hours,"}, {"start": "00:23:36", "end": "00:23:40", "text": "the computers were running the search"}, {"start": "00:23:38", "end": "00:23:43", "text": "algorithms for 440 and [clears throat]"}, {"start": "00:23:40", "end": "00:23:45", "text": "40 hours. And this time,"}, {"start": "00:23:43", "end": "00:23:48", "text": "rather than the mathematicians that had"}, {"start": "00:23:45", "end": "00:23:50", "text": "developed the algorithms doing the work,"}, {"start": "00:23:48", "end": "00:23:53", "text": "this time the experiment was run by a"}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:55", "text": "former senior cryptologic mathematician"}, {"start": "00:23:53", "end": "00:23:57", "text": "for the NSA of the United States. His"}, {"start": "00:23:55", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "name was Harold Gans."}, {"start": "00:23:57", "end": "00:24:02", "text": "Harold Gans took the original experiment"}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "one step further."}, {"start": "00:24:02", "end": "00:24:07", "text": "And he began with the names of 66 famous"}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:09", "text": "rabbis."}, {"start": "00:24:07", "end": "00:24:11", "text": "He tested those names against"}, {"start": "00:24:09", "end": "00:24:13", "text": "themselves, but he wanted to see if the"}, {"start": "00:24:11", "end": "00:24:15", "text": "dates [music] and the places of the"}, {"start": "00:24:13", "end": "00:24:18", "text": "birth and the death for each rabbi were"}, {"start": "00:24:15", "end": "00:24:20", "text": "also show up. Well, once again, at the"}, {"start": "00:24:18", "end": "00:24:23", "text": "end of this experiment, the information"}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:25", "text": "that was revealed by the codes exceeded"}, {"start": "00:24:23", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "even Harold Gans' expectations. Not only"}, {"start": "00:24:25", "end": "00:24:30", "text": "did the names come up, the exact dates"}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:33", "text": "of the birth, the exact dates of the"}, {"start": "00:24:30", "end": "00:24:34", "text": "death, and even the cities where they"}, {"start": "00:24:33", "end": "00:24:36", "text": "were born and the cities where the"}, {"start": "00:24:34", "end": "00:24:39", "text": "rabbis died, even if they were"}, {"start": "00:24:36", "end": "00:24:41", "text": "different, they showed up in this study."}, {"start": "00:24:39", "end": "00:24:44", "text": "Well, Harold Gans wrote a paper in his"}, {"start": "00:24:41", "end": "00:24:47", "text": "conclusion, he stated that this is"}, {"start": "00:24:44", "end": "00:24:49", "text": "statistically more than significant,"}, {"start": "00:24:47", "end": "00:24:53", "text": "that this is no accident. There is a"}, {"start": "00:24:49", "end": "00:24:55", "text": "code that is encoded within the Torah,"}, {"start": "00:24:53", "end": "00:24:57", "text": "within the first five books of the"}, {"start": "00:24:55", "end": "00:25:00", "text": "Hebrew Bible, and it's encoded in a way"}, {"start": "00:24:57", "end": "00:25:03", "text": "that exists nowhere else. Well, since"}, {"start": "00:25:00", "end": "00:25:05", "text": "the time of these experiments, once the"}, {"start": "00:25:03", "end": "00:25:07", "text": "researchers discovered how accurate"}, {"start": "00:25:05", "end": "00:25:08", "text": "these codes were, all of a sudden they"}, {"start": "00:25:07", "end": "00:25:12", "text": "begin to query everything. And"}, {"start": "00:25:08", "end": "00:25:14", "text": "everything that has ever been queried in"}, {"start": "00:25:12", "end": "00:25:16", "text": "the code has revealed specifics. I just"}, {"start": "00:25:14", "end": "00:25:18", "text": "for example, World War II."}, {"start": "00:25:16", "end": "00:25:21", "text": "When World War II"}, {"start": "00:25:18", "end": "00:25:24", "text": "was queried in the Torah code, it"}, {"start": "00:25:21", "end": "00:25:26", "text": "actually spells out the words World War"}, {"start": "00:25:24", "end": "00:25:28", "text": "II. It spells out the words final"}, {"start": "00:25:26", "end": "00:25:30", "text": "solution. The code gives the name of the"}, {"start": "00:25:28", "end": "00:25:33", "text": "leaders who were present at the time,"}, {"start": "00:25:30", "end": "00:25:35", "text": "Roosevelt, Stalin, Hitler, Churchill. It"}, {"start": "00:25:33", "end": "00:25:37", "text": "gives the exact names of the countries"}, {"start": "00:25:35", "end": "00:25:38", "text": "that were involved, England, Germany,"}, {"start": "00:25:37", "end": "00:25:41", "text": "France, Russia, Japan, the United"}, {"start": "00:25:38", "end": "00:25:44", "text": "States. It even gives the words atomic"}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:45", "text": "holocaust and the year 1945."}, {"start": "00:25:44", "end": "00:25:48", "text": "Look at what David did."}, {"start": "00:25:45", "end": "00:25:50", "text": "He incorporated all of his senses. He"}, {"start": "00:25:48", "end": "00:25:52", "text": "didn't ask for something to happen. He"}, {"start": "00:25:50", "end": "00:25:54", "text": "felt that it had already happened. He"}, {"start": "00:25:52", "end": "00:25:55", "text": "smelled what it smells like when it"}, {"start": "00:25:54", "end": "00:25:56", "text": "happens."}, {"start": "00:25:55", "end": "00:25:58", "text": "He heard the sounds of the rain. I"}, {"start": "00:25:56", "end": "00:26:00", "text": "didn't even tell you about that part,"}, {"start": "00:25:58", "end": "00:26:02", "text": "but he heard the sounds of the rain."}, {"start": "00:26:00", "end": "00:26:03", "text": "And he felt as if that rain is already"}, {"start": "00:26:02", "end": "00:26:06", "text": "there. I'm going to invite you to think"}, {"start": "00:26:03", "end": "00:26:07", "text": "about this as we go into this this"}, {"start": "00:26:06", "end": "00:26:08", "text": "modality of prayer that I'm going to"}, {"start": "00:26:07", "end": "00:26:10", "text": "share with you."}, {"start": "00:26:08", "end": "00:26:11", "text": "So, the principles"}, {"start": "00:26:10", "end": "00:26:14", "text": "that I'm sharing this mode are very"}, {"start": "00:26:11", "end": "00:26:16", "text": "simple. They're also very ancient."}, {"start": "00:26:14", "end": "00:26:19", "text": "And everything I'm saying to you, we see"}, {"start": "00:26:16", "end": "00:26:21", "text": "the instructions for this kind of"}, {"start": "00:26:19", "end": "00:26:24", "text": "prayer, for this code that allows us to"}, {"start": "00:26:21", "end": "00:26:25", "text": "speak directly to the matrix, we see"}, {"start": "00:26:24", "end": "00:26:26", "text": "these principles"}, {"start": "00:26:25", "end": "00:26:28", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:26:26", "end": "00:26:31", "text": ">> uh recorded in some of our most ancient,"}, {"start": "00:26:28", "end": "00:26:34", "text": "cherished spiritual traditions. And I'm"}, {"start": "00:26:31", "end": "00:26:37", "text": "talking about lost biblical books that I"}, {"start": "00:26:34", "end": "00:26:38", "text": "described earlier in this program."}, {"start": "00:26:37", "end": "00:26:41", "text": "These are the books that were discovered"}, {"start": "00:26:38", "end": "00:26:43", "text": "in the mid-20th century as the Nag"}, {"start": "00:26:41", "end": "00:26:45", "text": "Hammadi library in Egypt. Remember that"}, {"start": "00:26:43", "end": "00:26:47", "text": "the Dead Sea Scrolls are the oldest"}, {"start": "00:26:45", "end": "00:26:49", "text": "records of the Old Testament? The Nag"}, {"start": "00:26:47", "end": "00:26:51", "text": "Hammadi library are the oldest records"}, {"start": "00:26:49", "end": "00:26:54", "text": "of the the Testament. Both of them found"}, {"start": "00:26:51", "end": "00:26:57", "text": "on mid-20th century, the 1940s."}, {"start": "00:26:54", "end": "00:27:00", "text": "And in that Nag Hammadi library, the 43"}, {"start": "00:26:57", "end": "00:27:01", "text": "plus books that were completely removed"}, {"start": "00:27:00", "end": "00:27:04", "text": "from the biblical canon in the 4th"}, {"start": "00:27:01", "end": "00:27:06", "text": "century by the Emperor Constantine, were"}, {"start": "00:27:04", "end": "00:27:08", "text": "intact in the Nag Hammadi library,"}, {"start": "00:27:06", "end": "00:27:10", "text": "including the Gospel of Thomas that"}, {"start": "00:27:08", "end": "00:27:12", "text": "we've spoken about earlier. Thomas the"}, {"start": "00:27:10", "end": "00:27:14", "text": "Scribe"}, {"start": "00:27:12", "end": "00:27:16", "text": "that followed the master, Jesus the"}, {"start": "00:27:14", "end": "00:27:18", "text": "teacher, not a religious man from this"}, {"start": "00:27:16", "end": "00:27:20", "text": "perspective. This he followed the"}, {"start": "00:27:18", "end": "00:27:23", "text": "teacher and he recorded the words, the"}, {"start": "00:27:20", "end": "00:27:25", "text": "exact words of the teacher. And this is"}, {"start": "00:27:23", "end": "00:27:28", "text": "important because there is a place in"}, {"start": "00:27:25", "end": "00:27:29", "text": "the Gospel of Thomas where his students"}, {"start": "00:27:28", "end": "00:27:31", "text": "asked"}, {"start": "00:27:29", "end": "00:27:34", "text": "the teacher how to communicate with the"}, {"start": "00:27:31", "end": "00:27:37", "text": "field. They didn't use those terms."}, {"start": "00:27:34", "end": "00:27:38", "text": "They asked how to communicate with God."}, {"start": "00:27:37", "end": "00:27:40", "text": "And it's in the Gospel of Thomas that we"}, {"start": "00:27:38", "end": "00:27:43", "text": "find the instructions for the fifth"}, {"start": "00:27:40", "end": "00:27:46", "text": "mode, the lost mode of prayer. So, it's"}, {"start": "00:27:43", "end": "00:27:48", "text": "in the Gospel of Thomas that we actually"}, {"start": "00:27:46", "end": "00:27:50", "text": "find the instructions"}, {"start": "00:27:48", "end": "00:27:52", "text": "for [music] this fifth or this lost mode"}, {"start": "00:27:50", "end": "00:27:54", "text": "of prayer, as I mentioned. So, let me"}, {"start": "00:27:52", "end": "00:27:56", "text": "first read to you"}, {"start": "00:27:54", "end": "00:27:58", "text": "the translation [music]"}, {"start": "00:27:56", "end": "00:28:00", "text": "in the authorized version of the King"}, {"start": "00:27:58", "end": "00:28:01", "text": "James Bible as we see it today. [music]"}, {"start": "00:28:00", "end": "00:28:03", "text": "If you'd like to see this for yourself,"}, {"start": "00:28:01", "end": "00:28:06", "text": "it's in King James version of the book"}, {"start": "00:28:03", "end": "00:28:08", "text": "of John 16 through 23 is where you would"}, {"start": "00:28:06", "end": "00:28:10", "text": "find this. I know you've heard this"}, {"start": "00:28:08", "end": "00:28:12", "text": "before. How many of you have heard"}, {"start": "00:28:10", "end": "00:28:13", "text": "\"Ask and you shall receive.\"? That's"}, {"start": "00:28:12", "end": "00:28:16", "text": "where this comes from. Let me read you"}, {"start": "00:28:13", "end": "00:28:18", "text": "the translation. The translation goes"}, {"start": "00:28:16", "end": "00:28:20", "text": "like this. \"Whatsoever you ask the"}, {"start": "00:28:18", "end": "00:28:23", "text": "Father in my name, he will give it to"}, {"start": "00:28:20", "end": "00:28:24", "text": "you. Ask and you shall receive that your"}, {"start": "00:28:23", "end": "00:28:26", "text": "joy may be full.\""}, {"start": "00:28:24", "end": "00:28:27", "text": "Okay, and that's the end of the"}, {"start": "00:28:26", "end": "00:28:29", "text": "translation."}, {"start": "00:28:27", "end": "00:28:30", "text": "I don't know about you, when I was a"}, {"start": "00:28:29", "end": "00:28:32", "text": "kid, I would ask and ask and ask and not"}, {"start": "00:28:30", "end": "00:28:34", "text": "much would happen and I became very"}, {"start": "00:28:32", "end": "00:28:35", "text": "frustrated, many people do."}, {"start": "00:28:34", "end": "00:28:36", "text": "We feel powerless. We feel that our"}, {"start": "00:28:35", "end": "00:28:38", "text": "prayers [music]"}, {"start": "00:28:36", "end": "00:28:42", "text": "really aren't making any any difference"}, {"start": "00:28:38", "end": "00:28:43", "text": "because we're not seeing uh any way to"}, {"start": "00:28:42", "end": "00:28:45", "text": "reinforce"}, {"start": "00:28:43", "end": "00:28:47", "text": "that our prayers have actually done"}, {"start": "00:28:45", "end": "00:28:49", "text": "something, they've made a difference. If"}, {"start": "00:28:47", "end": "00:28:52", "text": "we want to go back into the original"}, {"start": "00:28:49", "end": "00:28:53", "text": "Aramaic translation and Greek and"}, {"start": "00:28:52", "end": "00:28:55", "text": "Aramaic both, but this is going to be"}, {"start": "00:28:53", "end": "00:28:55", "text": "from the original Aramaic."}, {"start": "00:28:55", "end": "00:28:57", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:28:55", "end": "00:28:59", "text": ">> In the Gospel of Thomas, you see Greek"}, {"start": "00:28:57", "end": "00:28:59", "text": "and Aramaic, is why I'm clarifying this."}, {"start": "00:28:59", "end": "00:29:01", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:28:59", "end": "00:29:04", "text": ">> And I'm going to read you, and it's very"}, {"start": "00:29:01", "end": "00:29:05", "text": "close, but there's a powerful and subtle"}, {"start": "00:29:04", "end": "00:29:06", "text": "difference"}, {"start": "00:29:05", "end": "00:29:07", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:29:06", "end": "00:29:09", "text": ">> that was left out in the translation"}, {"start": "00:29:07", "end": "00:29:12", "text": "that it may very well be because the"}, {"start": "00:29:09", "end": "00:29:14", "text": "translators did not [music] understand"}, {"start": "00:29:12", "end": "00:29:15", "text": "what you and I are exploring right now."}, {"start": "00:29:14", "end": "00:29:18", "text": "Because they didn't understand it, they"}, {"start": "00:29:15", "end": "00:29:21", "text": "simply streamlined the languaging. So,"}, {"start": "00:29:18", "end": "00:29:22", "text": "[music] in the translated version, and"}, {"start": "00:29:21", "end": "00:29:26", "text": "if you'd like to see this for yourself,"}, {"start": "00:29:22", "end": "00:29:28", "text": "it comes from Neil Douglas Klotz is the"}, {"start": "00:29:26", "end": "00:29:29", "text": "the name of the translator. It's a"}, {"start": "00:29:28", "end": "00:29:31", "text": "little book called Prayers of the"}, {"start": "00:29:29", "end": "00:29:33", "text": "Cosmos. It is a beautiful beautiful book"}, {"start": "00:29:31", "end": "00:29:35", "text": "where he re-translates so many of of the"}, {"start": "00:29:33", "end": "00:29:37", "text": "very powerful prayers, and this is one"}, {"start": "00:29:35", "end": "00:29:39", "text": "of them. Now, listen to the difference."}, {"start": "00:29:37", "end": "00:29:40", "text": "In the original text, it begins a very"}, {"start": "00:29:39", "end": "00:29:41", "text": "similar way."}, {"start": "00:29:40", "end": "00:29:43", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:29:41", "end": "00:29:45", "text": ">> Quote, \"All things that you ask"}, {"start": "00:29:43", "end": "00:29:46", "text": "straightly, directly, from inside my"}, {"start": "00:29:45", "end": "00:29:46", "text": "name, you'll be given.\""}, {"start": "00:29:46", "end": "00:29:49", "text": ">> [clears throat]"}, {"start": "00:29:46", "end": "00:29:52", "text": ">> Okay, now here comes the translation"}, {"start": "00:29:49", "end": "00:29:52", "text": "that was in error. This is the original."}, {"start": "00:29:52", "end": "00:29:56", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:29:52", "end": "00:29:59", "text": ">> \"Ask without hidden motive and be"}, {"start": "00:29:56", "end": "00:30:01", "text": "surrounded by your answer. Be enveloped"}, {"start": "00:29:59", "end": "00:30:01", "text": "by what you desire that your gladness be"}, {"start": "00:30:01", "end": "00:30:04", "text": "full.\" [music]"}, {"start": "00:30:01", "end": "00:30:06", "text": "That is a single very powerful"}, {"start": "00:30:04", "end": "00:30:09", "text": "statement. I'm going to break this down."}, {"start": "00:30:06", "end": "00:30:11", "text": "\"Ask without hidden motive.\" That is"}, {"start": "00:30:09", "end": "00:30:12", "text": "inviting you to ask without attachment"}, {"start": "00:30:11", "end": "00:30:15", "text": "to the outcome. It's [music] actually a"}, {"start": "00:30:12", "end": "00:30:16", "text": "very Buddhist concept. Ask without"}, {"start": "00:30:15", "end": "00:30:19", "text": "attachment to the rightness, the"}, {"start": "00:30:16", "end": "00:30:21", "text": "wrongness, the goodness, the badness, or"}, {"start": "00:30:19", "end": "00:30:23", "text": "the joy or the disappointment as as to"}, {"start": "00:30:21", "end": "00:30:26", "text": "whether or not your prayer is answered."}, {"start": "00:30:23", "end": "00:30:27", "text": "Without attachment to the outcome, okay?"}, {"start": "00:30:26", "end": "00:30:30", "text": "Be"}, {"start": "00:30:27", "end": "00:30:33", "text": "\"Be surrounded by your answer. Be"}, {"start": "00:30:30", "end": "00:30:35", "text": "enveloped by what you desire.\" The only"}, {"start": "00:30:33", "end": "00:30:37", "text": "way to be is if [music] those things are"}, {"start": "00:30:35", "end": "00:30:39", "text": "already present. Your prayer is already"}, {"start": "00:30:37", "end": "00:30:41", "text": "answered. You're coming from the place"}, {"start": "00:30:39", "end": "00:30:43", "text": "that the prayer has already been"}, {"start": "00:30:41", "end": "00:30:45", "text": "answered. So, the key to what we're"}, {"start": "00:30:43", "end": "00:30:48", "text": "saying here, feel the feeling. So, we've"}, {"start": "00:30:45", "end": "00:30:51", "text": "got a whole generation of young people"}, {"start": "00:30:48", "end": "00:30:53", "text": "who are curious and want to contribute"}, {"start": "00:30:51", "end": "00:30:55", "text": "and want to make a better world and"}, {"start": "00:30:53", "end": "00:30:57", "text": "whatever they want they want to [music]"}, {"start": "00:30:55", "end": "00:31:00", "text": "contribute their part, but they're being"}, {"start": "00:30:57", "end": "00:31:02", "text": "conditioned to study and look for the"}, {"start": "00:31:00", "end": "00:31:04", "text": "answers in a series of assumptions that"}, {"start": "00:31:02", "end": "00:31:06", "text": "are now scientifically false. That is a"}, {"start": "00:31:04", "end": "00:31:08", "text": "fact. It's not sort of a fact, it is a"}, {"start": "00:31:06", "end": "00:31:10", "text": "fact. [music] Every one of these in"}, {"start": "00:31:08", "end": "00:31:12", "text": "peer-reviewed technical journals and I"}, {"start": "00:31:10", "end": "00:31:14", "text": "was very careful when I put this program"}, {"start": "00:31:12", "end": "00:31:16", "text": "together. This isn't If I share an"}, {"start": "00:31:14", "end": "00:31:18", "text": "opinion, I'll say it's a Gregism."}, {"start": "00:31:16", "end": "00:31:19", "text": "So, that'll be a Gregism opinion, but"}, {"start": "00:31:18", "end": "00:31:20", "text": "this isn't. This is fact."}, {"start": "00:31:19", "end": "00:31:23", "text": "Okay."}, {"start": "00:31:20", "end": "00:31:26", "text": "Our false assumptions have led to the"}, {"start": "00:31:23", "end": "00:31:29", "text": "crises that we're seeing today."}, {"start": "00:31:26", "end": "00:31:29", "text": "We look at the the the last one on that"}, {"start": "00:31:29", "end": "00:31:29", "text": "list"}, {"start": "00:31:29", "end": "00:31:31", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:31:29", "end": "00:31:32", "text": ">> was about survival of the strongest,"}, {"start": "00:31:31", "end": "00:31:33", "text": "survival of the fittest. We're going to"}, {"start": "00:31:32", "end": "00:31:35", "text": "get into this a little bit more here in"}, {"start": "00:31:33", "end": "00:31:37", "text": "just an hour or so, but look at the"}, {"start": "00:31:35", "end": "00:31:38", "text": "crisis. Here's the cover of Time"}, {"start": "00:31:37", "end": "00:31:38", "text": "magazine"}, {"start": "00:31:38", "end": "00:31:40", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:31:38", "end": "00:31:42", "text": ">> talking about global warming. Once they"}, {"start": "00:31:40", "end": "00:31:44", "text": "acknowledged it was even happening, now"}, {"start": "00:31:42", "end": "00:31:47", "text": "they're seeing it as a war. It's a"}, {"start": "00:31:44", "end": "00:31:49", "text": "conflict that somehow we have to win."}, {"start": "00:31:47", "end": "00:31:50", "text": "That is a reflection of a way of"}, {"start": "00:31:49", "end": "00:31:50", "text": "thinking"}, {"start": "00:31:50", "end": "00:31:53", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:31:50", "end": "00:31:55", "text": ">> that is never going to get us anywhere"}, {"start": "00:31:53", "end": "00:31:57", "text": "with global warming or the way we"}, {"start": "00:31:55", "end": "00:31:59", "text": "resolve our problems anywhere in the"}, {"start": "00:31:57", "end": "00:32:01", "text": "world, but it is the result, the"}, {"start": "00:31:59", "end": "00:32:03", "text": "consequence, how we relate to the earth,"}, {"start": "00:32:01", "end": "00:32:05", "text": "how we grow our food, how we treat"}, {"start": "00:32:03", "end": "00:32:07", "text": "[music] our food, how we share our food,"}, {"start": "00:32:05", "end": "00:32:10", "text": "how we adapt to the changes, the"}, {"start": "00:32:07", "end": "00:32:12", "text": "economic system based on survival of the"}, {"start": "00:32:10", "end": "00:32:13", "text": "strongest."}, {"start": "00:32:12", "end": "00:32:14", "text": "All of those things are collapsing"}, {"start": "00:32:13", "end": "00:32:16", "text": "because they're based in false"}, {"start": "00:32:14", "end": "00:32:19", "text": "assumptions and the conditions of the"}, {"start": "00:32:16", "end": "00:32:22", "text": "earth are pushing them to the edge of"}, {"start": "00:32:19", "end": "00:32:23", "text": "their durability. [music]"}, {"start": "00:32:22", "end": "00:32:24", "text": "And the only things that have fallen"}, {"start": "00:32:23", "end": "00:32:27", "text": "apart are the things that don't work"}, {"start": "00:32:24", "end": "00:32:28", "text": "anymore because they are unsustainable."}, {"start": "00:32:27", "end": "00:32:30", "text": "That's what we're looking at. The false"}, {"start": "00:32:28", "end": "00:32:32", "text": "assumptions have caught up with us."}, {"start": "00:32:30", "end": "00:32:33", "text": "Now, I live in a little community. Bruce"}, {"start": "00:32:32", "end": "00:32:35", "text": "lives in a little community, too. You"}, {"start": "00:32:33", "end": "00:32:36", "text": "live in California, I I in northern New"}, {"start": "00:32:35", "end": "00:32:36", "text": "Mexico"}, {"start": "00:32:36", "end": "00:32:39", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:32:36", "end": "00:32:41", "text": ">> where people tend to move because they"}, {"start": "00:32:39", "end": "00:32:43", "text": "want to unplug from the world. And they"}, {"start": "00:32:41", "end": "00:32:46", "text": "move to remote areas like northern New"}, {"start": "00:32:43", "end": "00:32:47", "text": "Mexico or Texas or Arizona because they"}, {"start": "00:32:46", "end": "00:32:49", "text": "don't want to be a part of it and they"}, {"start": "00:32:47", "end": "00:32:50", "text": "say all that stuff has nothing to do"}, {"start": "00:32:49", "end": "00:32:50", "text": "with me."}, {"start": "00:32:50", "end": "00:32:52", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:32:50", "end": "00:32:54", "text": ">> It doesn't affect me at all."}, {"start": "00:32:52", "end": "00:32:55", "text": "Well, here's the error in that thinking."}, {"start": "00:32:54", "end": "00:32:57", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:32:55", "end": "00:33:01", "text": ">> The global extremes that we're living"}, {"start": "00:32:57", "end": "00:33:03", "text": "right now become the human extremes."}, {"start": "00:33:01", "end": "00:33:07", "text": "And the human extremes become personal"}, {"start": "00:33:03", "end": "00:33:09", "text": "extremes and every one of us are dealing"}, {"start": "00:33:07", "end": "00:33:12", "text": "with potential or real personal extremes"}, {"start": "00:33:09", "end": "00:33:13", "text": "right now that we cannot separate from"}, {"start": "00:33:12", "end": "00:33:15", "text": "the changes and what's happening in our"}, {"start": "00:33:13", "end": "00:33:17", "text": "lives and our world."}, {"start": "00:33:15", "end": "00:33:19", "text": "So, my question is this."}, {"start": "00:33:17", "end": "00:33:21", "text": "How do we know what to do? What laws do"}, {"start": "00:33:19", "end": "00:33:23", "text": "we pass? What policies do we change? How"}, {"start": "00:33:21", "end": "00:33:26", "text": "do we apply the technology to the"}, {"start": "00:33:23", "end": "00:33:28", "text": "greatest crises in recorded human"}, {"start": "00:33:26", "end": "00:33:29", "text": "history? How do we know what to choose"}, {"start": "00:33:28", "end": "00:33:31", "text": "if we haven't answered the question who"}, {"start": "00:33:29", "end": "00:33:33", "text": "we are because that's what the choices"}, {"start": "00:33:31", "end": "00:33:35", "text": "are based upon."}, {"start": "00:33:33", "end": "00:33:38", "text": "We have [music] to know our relationship"}, {"start": "00:33:35", "end": "00:33:41", "text": "to the world."}, {"start": "00:33:38", "end": "00:33:44", "text": "Okay, civilization, this is important"}, {"start": "00:33:41", "end": "00:33:46", "text": "because we're living a period of time"}, {"start": "00:33:44", "end": "00:33:47", "text": "now that's happened before if we know"}, {"start": "00:33:46", "end": "00:33:49", "text": "where in the history of the world to"}, {"start": "00:33:47", "end": "00:33:51", "text": "look."}, {"start": "00:33:49", "end": "00:33:53", "text": "But our textbooks are telling us that"}, {"start": "00:33:51", "end": "00:33:55", "text": "civilization's only 5,000 years old. So,"}, {"start": "00:33:53", "end": "00:33:58", "text": "why look any further than that? Humans"}, {"start": "00:33:55", "end": "00:34:00", "text": "weren't around. That's not the case."}, {"start": "00:33:58", "end": "00:34:04", "text": "I want to share with you the science."}, {"start": "00:34:00", "end": "00:34:05", "text": "This is a typical map of civilization"}, {"start": "00:34:04", "end": "00:34:06", "text": "that's in our textbooks books today. It"}, {"start": "00:34:05", "end": "00:34:07", "text": "looks something like this."}, {"start": "00:34:06", "end": "00:34:08", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:34:07", "end": "00:34:10", "text": ">> Here is the present time. I know you"}, {"start": "00:34:08", "end": "00:34:12", "text": "probably can't see at the back. Here's"}, {"start": "00:34:10", "end": "00:34:14", "text": "present on your far right. Here's 5,000"}, {"start": "00:34:12", "end": "00:34:18", "text": "years ago and and our textbooks say"}, {"start": "00:34:14", "end": "00:34:21", "text": "right about here 5,000 5,500 years ago"}, {"start": "00:34:18", "end": "00:34:23", "text": "the first civilizations began. Sumeria,"}, {"start": "00:34:21", "end": "00:34:25", "text": "Mesopotamia, right around there."}, {"start": "00:34:23", "end": "00:34:27", "text": "Primitive grass huts near some water"}, {"start": "00:34:25", "end": "00:34:29", "text": "because people had to fish and then we"}, {"start": "00:34:27", "end": "00:34:31", "text": "evolve from there in the steel and glass"}, {"start": "00:34:29", "end": "00:34:33", "text": "skyscrapers"}, {"start": "00:34:31", "end": "00:34:35", "text": "5,000 years later."}, {"start": "00:34:33", "end": "00:34:37", "text": "So, this is um the this is where we're"}, {"start": "00:34:35", "end": "00:34:38", "text": "told that that civilization began. Now,"}, {"start": "00:34:37", "end": "00:34:40", "text": "I remember when I was in school, I used"}, {"start": "00:34:38", "end": "00:34:42", "text": "to think like ancient Rome and ancient"}, {"start": "00:34:40", "end": "00:34:42", "text": "Greece was like so long ago."}, {"start": "00:34:42", "end": "00:34:43", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:34:42", "end": "00:34:45", "text": ">> You remember thinking about that? This"}, {"start": "00:34:43", "end": "00:34:48", "text": "is This is like, \"Oh, man, it's just"}, {"start": "00:34:45", "end": "00:34:51", "text": "like way back.\" Well, it's more recent"}, {"start": "00:34:48", "end": "00:34:54", "text": "than Sumeria. So, Egypt, the Indus"}, {"start": "00:34:51", "end": "00:34:56", "text": "Valley in India, Greece, Rome, all of"}, {"start": "00:34:54", "end": "00:34:59", "text": "these This is what we're taught is that"}, {"start": "00:34:56", "end": "00:35:01", "text": "the bulk of civilization as we know it"}, {"start": "00:34:59", "end": "00:35:03", "text": "is around 5,000 to 5,500 years ago,"}, {"start": "00:35:01", "end": "00:35:03", "text": "these great civilizations."}, {"start": "00:35:03", "end": "00:35:05", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:35:03", "end": "00:35:06", "text": ">> Here's the problem."}, {"start": "00:35:05", "end": "00:35:08", "text": "The problem with that You're going to"}, {"start": "00:35:06", "end": "00:35:10", "text": "see this slide come up a lot is that the"}, {"start": "00:35:08", "end": "00:35:12", "text": "facts don't support that assumption."}, {"start": "00:35:10", "end": "00:35:14", "text": "Now, I could do a whole workshop, a"}, {"start": "00:35:12", "end": "00:35:17", "text": "weekend on what we're about to do here,"}, {"start": "00:35:14", "end": "00:35:19", "text": "but I've just I've chosen three"}, {"start": "00:35:17", "end": "00:35:20", "text": "scientifically"}, {"start": "00:35:19", "end": "00:35:22", "text": "accepted, peer-reviewed [music]"}, {"start": "00:35:20", "end": "00:35:24", "text": "examples."}, {"start": "00:35:22", "end": "00:35:25", "text": "So, there's others that are speculation."}, {"start": "00:35:24", "end": "00:35:27", "text": "You know, people talk about Atlantis,"}, {"start": "00:35:25", "end": "00:35:28", "text": "people talk about Lemuria. We'll have"}, {"start": "00:35:27", "end": "00:35:29", "text": "the science to back that."}, {"start": "00:35:28", "end": "00:35:30", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:35:29", "end": "00:35:31", "text": ">> Maybe it hap- maybe it didn't, but I'm"}, {"start": "00:35:30", "end": "00:35:33", "text": "going to stick with the science today."}, {"start": "00:35:31", "end": "00:35:36", "text": "So, I'm going to begin right here"}, {"start": "00:35:33", "end": "00:35:38", "text": "in 2010, last year, last summer. I took"}, {"start": "00:35:36", "end": "00:35:40", "text": "a group into Peru."}, {"start": "00:35:38", "end": "00:35:41", "text": "The group I sent the group home, and I"}, {"start": "00:35:40", "end": "00:35:43", "text": "stayed an extra week to go to an"}, {"start": "00:35:41", "end": "00:35:45", "text": "archaeological site"}, {"start": "00:35:43", "end": "00:35:47", "text": "that I had heard about, but I'd never"}, {"start": "00:35:45", "end": "00:35:49", "text": "had the opportunity to see. It's only"}, {"start": "00:35:47", "end": "00:35:51", "text": "recently been excavated. It's an active"}, {"start": "00:35:49", "end": "00:35:53", "text": "site. So, when I put this picture up,"}, {"start": "00:35:51", "end": "00:35:54", "text": "people asked me, they said, \"Well, Greg,"}, {"start": "00:35:53", "end": "00:35:55", "text": "don't you have any colored pictures?\""}, {"start": "00:35:54", "end": "00:35:57", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:35:55", "end": "00:35:59", "text": ">> I said, \"Well, that is a colored picture"}, {"start": "00:35:57", "end": "00:36:02", "text": "because the whole site it is about is"}, {"start": "00:35:59", "end": "00:36:04", "text": "bleak and drab and gray and lifeless as"}, {"start": "00:36:02", "end": "00:36:06", "text": "any place I've ever seen on this planet."}, {"start": "00:36:04", "end": "00:36:07", "text": "Looks like it's from another planet. The"}, {"start": "00:36:06", "end": "00:36:10", "text": "sky is the same color as the earth, it's"}, {"start": "00:36:07", "end": "00:36:12", "text": "the same color as the architecture."}, {"start": "00:36:10", "end": "00:36:14", "text": "You're going to see this site is a"}, {"start": "00:36:12", "end": "00:36:16", "text": "previously unknown, advanced"}, {"start": "00:36:14", "end": "00:36:18", "text": "civilization that's north and [music]"}, {"start": "00:36:16", "end": "00:36:19", "text": "east of Lima, so it's in northern Peru"}, {"start": "00:36:18", "end": "00:36:23", "text": "right now."}, {"start": "00:36:19", "end": "00:36:25", "text": "In 2010, the site It's an active site."}, {"start": "00:36:23", "end": "00:36:25", "text": "Right now, they've uncovered 150 acres,"}, {"start": "00:36:25", "end": "00:36:28", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:36:25", "end": "00:36:29", "text": ">> five pyramids, and two huge circular"}, {"start": "00:36:28", "end": "00:36:31", "text": "plazas that are not supposed to be"}, {"start": "00:36:29", "end": "00:36:33", "text": "there."}, {"start": "00:36:31", "end": "00:36:33", "text": "That's right. They're not supposed to be"}, {"start": "00:36:33", "end": "00:36:34", "text": "there."}, {"start": "00:36:33", "end": "00:36:36", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:36:34", "end": "00:36:38", "text": ">> That's supposed to be an absolutely"}, {"start": "00:36:36", "end": "00:36:41", "text": "airtight"}, {"start": "00:36:38", "end": "00:36:43", "text": "sound-resistant air wall, but I guess it"}, {"start": "00:36:41", "end": "00:36:45", "text": "guess it's not working quite that way."}, {"start": "00:36:43", "end": "00:36:48", "text": "It is called Caral, Peru. How many in"}, {"start": "00:36:45", "end": "00:36:49", "text": "here have been to Caral? Anyone?"}, {"start": "00:36:48", "end": "00:36:51", "text": "Okay, if if you haven't heard about"}, {"start": "00:36:49", "end": "00:36:53", "text": "this, it's rewriting the history books"}, {"start": "00:36:51", "end": "00:36:55", "text": "of all the Americas, and it will [music]"}, {"start": "00:36:53", "end": "00:36:57", "text": "have to be incorporated into the history"}, {"start": "00:36:55", "end": "00:36:59", "text": "books if the books are to remain"}, {"start": "00:36:57", "end": "00:37:01", "text": "scientific. It will have to be. And"}, {"start": "00:36:59", "end": "00:37:01", "text": "there are a lot of mysteries here."}, {"start": "00:37:01", "end": "00:37:03", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:37:01", "end": "00:37:06", "text": ">> There are no bodies that have been found"}, {"start": "00:37:03", "end": "00:37:08", "text": "at this particular site. Many of these"}, {"start": "00:37:06", "end": "00:37:11", "text": "archaeological sites where you would"}, {"start": "00:37:08", "end": "00:37:14", "text": "expect to see evidence of war, there is"}, {"start": "00:37:11", "end": "00:37:16", "text": "no evidence of war"}, {"start": "00:37:14", "end": "00:37:17", "text": "previous to a certain date."}, {"start": "00:37:16", "end": "00:37:19", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:37:17", "end": "00:37:21", "text": ">> And what it is leading archaeologists to"}, {"start": "00:37:19", "end": "00:37:25", "text": "sense, to believe,"}, {"start": "00:37:21", "end": "00:37:27", "text": "is that war is not natural to humankind."}, {"start": "00:37:25", "end": "00:37:29", "text": "That we learned the habit of war at a"}, {"start": "00:37:27", "end": "00:37:31", "text": "particular time in history, even though"}, {"start": "00:37:29", "end": "00:37:33", "text": "history books say it's natural for"}, {"start": "00:37:31", "end": "00:37:35", "text": "humans to have war."}, {"start": "00:37:33", "end": "00:37:37", "text": "And these sites are showing there's no"}, {"start": "00:37:35", "end": "00:37:39", "text": "bodies, no mutilations, no mass graves,"}, {"start": "00:37:37", "end": "00:37:40", "text": "no protective walls that you would"}, {"start": "00:37:39", "end": "00:37:42", "text": "expect to see."}, {"start": "00:37:40", "end": "00:37:44", "text": "No signs of any weapons. There are no"}, {"start": "00:37:42", "end": "00:37:45", "text": "written records"}, {"start": "00:37:44", "end": "00:37:47", "text": "at any of these sites, and you say,"}, {"start": "00:37:45", "end": "00:37:48", "text": "\"Well, what happened?\" And the"}, {"start": "00:37:47", "end": "00:37:50", "text": "archaeologist that was leading me"}, {"start": "00:37:48", "end": "00:37:51", "text": "through the site, I think I made him a"}, {"start": "00:37:50", "end": "00:37:53", "text": "little crazy."}, {"start": "00:37:51", "end": "00:37:54", "text": "He wanted to show me everything they did"}, {"start": "00:37:53", "end": "00:37:57", "text": "find, and I wanted to ask questions like"}, {"start": "00:37:54", "end": "00:37:58", "text": "this. Who built it? Where'd they come"}, {"start": "00:37:57", "end": "00:37:59", "text": "from? How come we don't know about them?"}, {"start": "00:37:58", "end": "00:38:00", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:37:59", "end": "00:38:01", "text": ">> Uh and he has he had to say, \"We don't"}, {"start": "00:38:00", "end": "00:38:02", "text": "know.\""}, {"start": "00:38:01", "end": "00:38:05", "text": "We don't know. Well, this is how the"}, {"start": "00:38:02", "end": "00:38:08", "text": "universe works. The"}, {"start": "00:38:05", "end": "00:38:10", "text": "very day that I was on this site,"}, {"start": "00:38:08", "end": "00:38:11", "text": "our guide, our translator, had a cell"}, {"start": "00:38:10", "end": "00:38:14", "text": "phone with him, and we got cell coverage"}, {"start": "00:38:11", "end": "00:38:17", "text": "out here, believe it or not."}, {"start": "00:38:14", "end": "00:38:19", "text": "And this was the day that the [music]"}, {"start": "00:38:17", "end": "00:38:20", "text": "laboratories, three independent"}, {"start": "00:38:19", "end": "00:38:24", "text": "laboratories,"}, {"start": "00:38:20", "end": "00:38:26", "text": "had the dating complete for living"}, {"start": "00:38:24", "end": "00:38:28", "text": "material that had been found at the"}, {"start": "00:38:26", "end": "00:38:30", "text": "sites. Okay, you can only date something"}, {"start": "00:38:28", "end": "00:38:31", "text": "that's been living. You can't carbon"}, {"start": "00:38:30", "end": "00:38:32", "text": "date a rock."}, {"start": "00:38:31", "end": "00:38:35", "text": "The walls are hollow and they were"}, {"start": "00:38:32", "end": "00:38:37", "text": "filled with earth and plants and animal"}, {"start": "00:38:35", "end": "00:38:39", "text": "remains of the time"}, {"start": "00:38:37", "end": "00:38:41", "text": "that these things were built and then"}, {"start": "00:38:39", "end": "00:38:42", "text": "they were all buried underground."}, {"start": "00:38:41", "end": "00:38:45", "text": "So, they"}, {"start": "00:38:42", "end": "00:38:47", "text": "carbon dated those things and the dates"}, {"start": "00:38:45", "end": "00:38:49", "text": "came through and they made the phone"}, {"start": "00:38:47", "end": "00:38:51", "text": "call the exact day that we were walking"}, {"start": "00:38:49", "end": "00:38:53", "text": "through the site."}, {"start": "00:38:51", "end": "00:38:55", "text": "And I I saw our guide. He took the phone"}, {"start": "00:38:53", "end": "00:38:56", "text": "call and he turned his back to me and I"}, {"start": "00:38:55", "end": "00:38:57", "text": "I knew one of two things was going to"}, {"start": "00:38:56", "end": "00:39:00", "text": "happen."}, {"start": "00:38:57", "end": "00:39:02", "text": "Either he was going to be told this was"}, {"start": "00:39:00", "end": "00:39:06", "text": "another undiscovered Incan site like"}, {"start": "00:39:02", "end": "00:39:08", "text": "Machu Picchu or Ollantaytambo"}, {"start": "00:39:06", "end": "00:39:10", "text": "that wasn't going to amount to anything"}, {"start": "00:39:08", "end": "00:39:13", "text": "other than an interesting site or"}, {"start": "00:39:10", "end": "00:39:14", "text": "that they had just found"}, {"start": "00:39:13", "end": "00:39:14", "text": "a site"}, {"start": "00:39:14", "end": "00:39:17", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:39:14", "end": "00:39:19", "text": ">> that is now the oldest site in all of"}, {"start": "00:39:17", "end": "00:39:21", "text": "the Americas bar none. Older than the"}, {"start": "00:39:19", "end": "00:39:23", "text": "Mayans, older than the Aztecs, older"}, {"start": "00:39:21", "end": "00:39:25", "text": "than the Olmecs, older than anything in"}, {"start": "00:39:23", "end": "00:39:27", "text": "Mexi- Mexican authorities were not happy"}, {"start": "00:39:25", "end": "00:39:29", "text": "about this because they used to have the"}, {"start": "00:39:27", "end": "00:39:31", "text": "oldest and now they don't anymore."}, {"start": "00:39:29", "end": "00:39:32", "text": "Now, remember"}, {"start": "00:39:31", "end": "00:39:35", "text": "traditional history says that"}, {"start": "00:39:32", "end": "00:39:37", "text": "civilization began in a primitive way"}, {"start": "00:39:35", "end": "00:39:38", "text": "5,000 years ago."}, {"start": "00:39:37", "end": "00:39:41", "text": "The dating shows that's when this"}, {"start": "00:39:38", "end": "00:39:44", "text": "civilization collapsed."}, {"start": "00:39:41", "end": "00:39:45", "text": "It [music] ended when we are told that"}, {"start": "00:39:44", "end": "00:39:49", "text": "civilization began and they're actually"}, {"start": "00:39:45", "end": "00:39:51", "text": "dating this now between 5 and 7,000"}, {"start": "00:39:49", "end": "00:39:53", "text": "years old. The word perfect means to"}, {"start": "00:39:51", "end": "00:39:56", "text": "become more whole, more holy, more"}, {"start": "00:39:53", "end": "00:39:58", "text": "complete and cosmic."}, {"start": "00:39:56", "end": "00:40:01", "text": "The Essenes believed our purpose and"}, {"start": "00:39:58", "end": "00:40:04", "text": "goal in life was to return to our"}, {"start": "00:40:01", "end": "00:40:06", "text": "original divine state and recover our"}, {"start": "00:40:04", "end": "00:40:08", "text": "garments of light."}, {"start": "00:40:06", "end": "00:40:12", "text": "Remembering our light bodies would lead"}, {"start": "00:40:08", "end": "00:40:14", "text": "to a transformed world, they believed."}, {"start": "00:40:12", "end": "00:40:16", "text": "Early sources say the Essenes lived on"}, {"start": "00:40:14", "end": "00:40:18", "text": "Mount Carmel in northern Israel, but"}, {"start": "00:40:16", "end": "00:40:22", "text": "they also operated a hermetically sealed"}, 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"00:40:46", "end": "00:40:51", "text": "righteousness and the human race into"}, {"start": "00:40:48", "end": "00:40:54", "text": "its most perfect state of being."}, {"start": "00:40:51", "end": "00:40:56", "text": "Many believe Jesus was this celestial"}, {"start": "00:40:54", "end": "00:40:58", "text": "being."}, {"start": "00:40:56", "end": "00:41:01", "text": "Even more incredible is the Essenes'"}, {"start": "00:40:58", "end": "00:41:03", "text": "claim that they were living living with"}, {"start": "00:41:01", "end": "00:41:05", "text": "an advanced race of angels or"}, {"start": "00:41:03", "end": "00:41:08", "text": "extraterrestrials."}, {"start": "00:41:05", "end": "00:41:10", "text": "These angels, who took human form, were"}, {"start": "00:41:08", "end": "00:41:13", "text": "known as the watchers."}, {"start": "00:41:10", "end": "00:41:15", "text": "They were teaching the Essenes the art"}, {"start": "00:41:13", "end": "00:41:19", "text": "of ascension or how to transform our"}, {"start": "00:41:15", "end": "00:41:22", "text": "earthly flesh into a celestial flesh and"}, {"start": "00:41:19", "end": "00:41:26", "text": "ascend to a celestial city they referred"}, {"start": "00:41:22", "end": "00:41:28", "text": "to as Zion or the New Jerusalem."}, {"start": "00:41:26", "end": "00:41:29", "text": "Out to stop all this mystical nonsense"}, {"start": "00:41:28", "end": "00:41:31", "text": "are the children of darkness who the"}, {"start": "00:41:29", "end": "00:41:34", "text": "Essenes believe were incarnate in the"}, {"start": "00:41:31", "end": "00:41:37", "text": "mighty Roman Empire, the reigning cabal"}, {"start": "00:41:34", "end": "00:41:37", "text": "on Earth."}, {"start": "00:41:38", "end": "00:41:41", "text": "In my opinion, the accounts of the"}, {"start": "00:41:40", "end": "00:41:44", "text": "Essenes' interactions with the"}, {"start": "00:41:41", "end": "00:41:48", "text": "celestials are contained in the Dead Sea"}, {"start": "00:41:44", "end": "00:41:50", "text": "Scrolls, the texts they left behind."}, {"start": "00:41:48", "end": "00:41:53", "text": "These extraordinary texts affirm there"}, {"start": "00:41:50", "end": "00:41:56", "text": "was something truly unusual and"}, {"start": "00:41:53", "end": "00:41:58", "text": "mystically special about the Essenes."}, {"start": "00:41:56", "end": "00:42:00", "text": "They are quintessentially spiritual,"}, {"start": "00:41:58", "end": "00:42:03", "text": "oriented towards the celestial realms"}, {"start": "00:42:00", "end": "00:42:06", "text": "and its otherworldly inhabitants."}, {"start": "00:42:03", "end": "00:42:08", "text": "Their goal was an alliance with the"}, {"start": "00:42:06", "end": "00:42:10", "text": "upper world."}, {"start": "00:42:08", "end": "00:42:13", "text": "The scrolls describe cosmic battles,"}, {"start": "00:42:10", "end": "00:42:16", "text": "beings, portals,"}, {"start": "00:42:13", "end": "00:42:18", "text": "hidden agendas, and new superhumans."}, {"start": "00:42:16", "end": "00:42:21", "text": "And cloaked behind it all is the"}, {"start": "00:42:18", "end": "00:42:24", "text": "celestial city, the home and mother"}, {"start": "00:42:21", "end": "00:42:27", "text": "church of their angelic teachers and the"}, {"start": "00:42:24", "end": "00:42:29", "text": "target of their ascension and how humans"}, {"start": "00:42:27", "end": "00:42:32", "text": "can ascend there. This is a very"}, {"start": "00:42:29", "end": "00:42:34", "text": "personal perspective [music]"}, {"start": "00:42:32", "end": "00:42:37", "text": "because it involves a research project"}, {"start": "00:42:34", "end": "00:42:40", "text": "that I began over 30 years ago."}, {"start": "00:42:37", "end": "00:42:42", "text": "My background as a scientist, degree"}, {"start": "00:42:40", "end": "00:42:44", "text": "geologist with a background in marine"}, {"start": "00:42:42", "end": "00:42:45", "text": "ocean and life sciences, mathematics,"}, {"start": "00:42:44", "end": "00:42:47", "text": "and physics."}, {"start": "00:42:45", "end": "00:42:49", "text": "All of these things work together for me"}, {"start": "00:42:47", "end": "00:42:52", "text": "early in my life."}, {"start": "00:42:49", "end": "00:42:55", "text": "And when I looked at them honestly and"}, {"start": "00:42:52", "end": "00:42:58", "text": "asked myself truthfully and factually"}, {"start": "00:42:55", "end": "00:43:01", "text": "what is nature telling us? My sense at"}, {"start": "00:42:58", "end": "00:43:04", "text": "that time early in my life was there is"}, {"start": "00:43:01", "end": "00:43:04", "text": "something something more than evolution"}, {"start": "00:43:04", "end": "00:43:06", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:43:04", "end": "00:43:07", "text": ">> that underlies our existence. Something"}, {"start": "00:43:06", "end": "00:43:09", "text": "that is not being acknowledged in the"}, {"start": "00:43:07", "end": "00:43:12", "text": "mainstream."}, {"start": "00:43:09", "end": "00:43:14", "text": "And while the fossils are interesting, I"}, {"start": "00:43:12", "end": "00:43:15", "text": "don't think they're about us. And while"}, {"start": "00:43:14", "end": "00:43:17", "text": "the DNA is now telling us more"}, {"start": "00:43:15", "end": "00:43:19", "text": "information, we're still lacking a"}, {"start": "00:43:17", "end": "00:43:20", "text": "context and this may be one of those"}, {"start": "00:43:19", "end": "00:43:22", "text": "places"}, {"start": "00:43:20", "end": "00:43:25", "text": "where we're not going to find the answer"}, {"start": "00:43:22", "end": "00:43:28", "text": "in the mystery itself. We'll have to"}, {"start": "00:43:25", "end": "00:43:30", "text": "find the answer in other avenues that"}, {"start": "00:43:28", "end": "00:43:33", "text": "help us to understand and lead to"}, {"start": "00:43:30", "end": "00:43:35", "text": "solving this mystery. So for me"}, {"start": "00:43:33", "end": "00:43:39", "text": "a passion of mine as I mentioned earlier"}, {"start": "00:43:35", "end": "00:43:41", "text": "has been to look for clues"}, {"start": "00:43:39", "end": "00:43:43", "text": "in our most ancient and cherished"}, {"start": "00:43:41", "end": "00:43:45", "text": "traditions to see what those clues may"}, {"start": "00:43:43", "end": "00:43:46", "text": "be saying to us"}, {"start": "00:43:45", "end": "00:43:47", "text": "or what did our ancestors know in their"}, {"start": "00:43:46", "end": "00:43:49", "text": "time"}, {"start": "00:43:47", "end": "00:43:50", "text": "that we're only beginning to discover in"}, {"start": "00:43:49", "end": "00:43:52", "text": "ours."}, {"start": "00:43:50", "end": "00:43:54", "text": "And I've always had a very strong sense"}, {"start": "00:43:52", "end": "00:43:55", "text": "that if we know where and how to look"}, {"start": "00:43:54", "end": "00:43:57", "text": "into our past"}, {"start": "00:43:55", "end": "00:44:00", "text": "that there are insights that have been"}, {"start": "00:43:57", "end": "00:44:03", "text": "preserved in some of our most ancient"}, {"start": "00:44:00", "end": "00:44:05", "text": "texts and traditions. Insights that"}, {"start": "00:44:03", "end": "00:44:06", "text": "maybe just aren't so well understood"}, {"start": "00:44:05", "end": "00:44:08", "text": "today."}, {"start": "00:44:06", "end": "00:44:09", "text": "So I'm going to share with you very"}, {"start": "00:44:08", "end": "00:44:10", "text": "quickly. I'm going to"}, {"start": "00:44:09", "end": "00:44:12", "text": "I'm going to condense 30 years of"}, {"start": "00:44:10", "end": "00:44:14", "text": "research into a project"}, {"start": "00:44:12", "end": "00:44:15", "text": "that can only happen"}, {"start": "00:44:14", "end": "00:44:17", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:44:15", "end": "00:44:19", "text": ">> when we cross the traditional boundaries"}, {"start": "00:44:17", "end": "00:44:20", "text": "of science and spirituality."}, {"start": "00:44:19", "end": "00:44:21", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:44:20", "end": "00:44:24", "text": ">> Well, I was told as a scientist that"}, {"start": "00:44:21", "end": "00:44:26", "text": "these two are mutually incompatible. You"}, {"start": "00:44:24", "end": "00:44:28", "text": "You must choose, I was told, the path of"}, {"start": "00:44:26", "end": "00:44:30", "text": "science or the path of spirituality,"}, {"start": "00:44:28", "end": "00:44:32", "text": "that the two were in fact mutually"}, {"start": "00:44:30", "end": "00:44:35", "text": "exclusive. Here's my thinking. We're"}, {"start": "00:44:32", "end": "00:44:38", "text": "living a time of extremes. We owe it to"}, {"start": "00:44:35", "end": "00:44:40", "text": "ourselves to draw upon every facet,"}, {"start": "00:44:38", "end": "00:44:43", "text": "every source of information possible to"}, {"start": "00:44:40", "end": "00:44:45", "text": "give ourselves whatever it is we need"}, {"start": "00:44:43", "end": "00:44:48", "text": "and to call whatever it is that exists"}, {"start": "00:44:45", "end": "00:44:50", "text": "so that we can weave a new story,"}, {"start": "00:44:48", "end": "00:44:52", "text": "honestly answer the questions for"}, {"start": "00:44:50", "end": "00:44:55", "text": "ourselves that we can thrive in our time"}, {"start": "00:44:52", "end": "00:44:57", "text": "of extremes, so we can end the suffering"}, {"start": "00:44:55", "end": "00:44:59", "text": "and move into a new way of living and"}, {"start": "00:44:57", "end": "00:45:02", "text": "thinking. And for me, I believe those"}, {"start": "00:44:59", "end": "00:45:03", "text": "clues exist in our past as well as in"}, {"start": "00:45:02", "end": "00:45:05", "text": "the new discoveries we're talking about"}, {"start": "00:45:03", "end": "00:45:07", "text": "now."}, {"start": "00:45:05", "end": "00:45:09", "text": "So, here's what that meant for me."}, {"start": "00:45:07", "end": "00:45:13", "text": "I went into one of the oldest and most"}, {"start": "00:45:09", "end": "00:45:15", "text": "mysterious spiritual texts that has ever"}, {"start": "00:45:13", "end": "00:45:17", "text": "been known to exist. It is called the"}, {"start": "00:45:15", "end": "00:45:20", "text": "Sefer Yetzirah."}, {"start": "00:45:17", "end": "00:45:23", "text": "It is a Hebrew text that is so mystical"}, {"start": "00:45:20", "end": "00:45:26", "text": "that the rabbis say it is not even"}, {"start": "00:45:23", "end": "00:45:28", "text": "something that can be studied by"}, {"start": "00:45:26", "end": "00:45:29", "text": "traditional students because the mystery"}, {"start": "00:45:28", "end": "00:45:31", "text": "is so deep and so great. It's a"}, {"start": "00:45:29", "end": "00:45:33", "text": "relatively short text, only about a"}, {"start": "00:45:31", "end": "00:45:36", "text": "thousand lines long. And it's only been"}, {"start": "00:45:33", "end": "00:45:39", "text": "translated into English once. And I took"}, {"start": "00:45:36", "end": "00:45:42", "text": "that translation and I read through it"}, {"start": "00:45:39", "end": "00:45:44", "text": "very, very carefully as a scientist."}, {"start": "00:45:42", "end": "00:45:48", "text": "And what I found is this. The Sefer"}, {"start": "00:45:44", "end": "00:45:52", "text": "Yetzirah is essentially a step-by-step"}, {"start": "00:45:48", "end": "00:45:55", "text": "description as if someone, an observer,"}, {"start": "00:45:52", "end": "00:45:57", "text": "were present the day that the universe"}, {"start": "00:45:55", "end": "00:46:00", "text": "and humankind were created. [music] An"}, {"start": "00:45:57", "end": "00:46:04", "text": "observer describing the process"}, {"start": "00:46:00", "end": "00:46:06", "text": "in line after line, the 1,000 lines,"}, {"start": "00:46:04", "end": "00:46:07", "text": "what it took to get us where we are"}, {"start": "00:46:06", "end": "00:46:08", "text": "today."}, {"start": "00:46:07", "end": "00:46:11", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:46:08", "end": "00:46:14", "text": ">> But the text is 3,000 years old."}, {"start": "00:46:11", "end": "00:46:15", "text": "Whoever wrote that text 3,000 years old,"}, {"start": "00:46:14", "end": "00:46:18", "text": "and it may be that whoever wrote it"}, {"start": "00:46:15", "end": "00:46:20", "text": "received it from a wisdom that's even"}, {"start": "00:46:18", "end": "00:46:22", "text": "older than the 3,000 years. Whoever it"}, {"start": "00:46:20", "end": "00:46:23", "text": "is that put that text together, they"}, {"start": "00:46:22", "end": "00:46:26", "text": "didn't know what we know today. They"}, {"start": "00:46:23", "end": "00:46:27", "text": "didn't know about science."}, {"start": "00:46:26", "end": "00:46:29", "text": "They didn't know about the periodic"}, {"start": "00:46:27", "end": "00:46:33", "text": "table of elements."}, {"start": "00:46:29", "end": "00:46:35", "text": "So, I began to interpret the text"}, {"start": "00:46:33", "end": "00:46:37", "text": "through the eyes of a scientist."}, {"start": "00:46:35", "end": "00:46:42", "text": "And when the text began talking"}, {"start": "00:46:37", "end": "00:46:44", "text": "about the elements of the earth, and of"}, {"start": "00:46:42", "end": "00:46:46", "text": "the wind, and of the sun, [music]"}, {"start": "00:46:44", "end": "00:46:48", "text": "I asked myself,"}, {"start": "00:46:46", "end": "00:46:51", "text": "if I were writing this text today, are"}, {"start": "00:46:48", "end": "00:46:54", "text": "those the words that I would use?"}, {"start": "00:46:51", "end": "00:46:56", "text": "And my answer was probably not."}, {"start": "00:46:54", "end": "00:46:59", "text": "As a scientist, when I talk about the"}, {"start": "00:46:56", "end": "00:47:01", "text": "sun, rather than calling it the sun, I"}, {"start": "00:46:59", "end": "00:47:03", "text": "would refer to the most dominant element"}, {"start": "00:47:01", "end": "00:47:07", "text": "in the sun, which is hydrogen."}, {"start": "00:47:03", "end": "00:47:09", "text": "When I talk about the air, the [music]"}, {"start": "00:47:07", "end": "00:47:13", "text": "wind, I would refer to the most dominant"}, {"start": "00:47:09", "end": "00:47:16", "text": "element, uh which is oxygen. And I began"}, {"start": "00:47:13", "end": "00:47:18", "text": "to look at these overlaps."}, {"start": "00:47:16", "end": "00:47:21", "text": "Well, there's another great mystery when"}, {"start": "00:47:18", "end": "00:47:23", "text": "it comes to the languages of our past."}, {"start": "00:47:21", "end": "00:47:24", "text": "Scientists know this, linguists know"}, {"start": "00:47:23", "end": "00:47:29", "text": "this very well."}, {"start": "00:47:24", "end": "00:47:32", "text": "Every language, every single alphabet"}, {"start": "00:47:29", "end": "00:47:35", "text": "that has ever been known to exist, bar"}, {"start": "00:47:32", "end": "00:47:37", "text": "none, cuneiform, Arabic, Hebrew,"}, {"start": "00:47:35", "end": "00:47:37", "text": "Sanskrit,"}, {"start": "00:47:37", "end": "00:47:40", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:47:37", "end": "00:47:41", "text": ">> every Greek, every alphabet ever been"}, {"start": "00:47:40", "end": "00:47:44", "text": "created,"}, {"start": "00:47:41", "end": "00:47:47", "text": "has always had a mysterious number"}, {"start": "00:47:44", "end": "00:47:49", "text": "linked to the letter that it represents."}, {"start": "00:47:47", "end": "00:47:51", "text": "When we talk about these things, some of"}, {"start": "00:47:49", "end": "00:47:53", "text": "these are anecdotal stories, but they're"}, {"start": "00:47:51", "end": "00:47:55", "text": "illustrating from an indigenous"}, {"start": "00:47:53", "end": "00:47:58", "text": "perspective a very powerful concept."}, {"start": "00:47:55", "end": "00:47:59", "text": "Look at what David did. He incorporated"}, {"start": "00:47:58", "end": "00:47:59", "text": "all of his senses."}, {"start": "00:47:59", "end": "00:48:01", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:47:59", "end": "00:48:03", "text": ">> He didn't ask for something to happen."}, {"start": "00:48:01", "end": "00:48:05", "text": "He felt that it had already happened. He"}, {"start": "00:48:03", "end": "00:48:07", "text": "smelled what it smells like when it"}, {"start": "00:48:05", "end": "00:48:09", "text": "happens. He heard the sounds of the"}, {"start": "00:48:07", "end": "00:48:10", "text": "rain. I didn't even tell you about that"}, {"start": "00:48:09", "end": "00:48:11", "text": "part, but he heard the sounds of the"}, {"start": "00:48:10", "end": "00:48:14", "text": "rain."}, {"start": "00:48:11", "end": "00:48:15", "text": "And he felt as if that rain is already"}, {"start": "00:48:14", "end": "00:48:17", "text": "there. I'm going to invite you to think"}, {"start": "00:48:15", "end": "00:48:18", "text": "about this as we go into this this"}, {"start": "00:48:17", "end": "00:48:20", "text": "modality of prayer that I'm going to"}, {"start": "00:48:18", "end": "00:48:22", "text": "share with you."}, {"start": "00:48:20", "end": "00:48:24", "text": "So, the principles that I'm sharing this"}, {"start": "00:48:22", "end": "00:48:26", "text": "mode are very simple. They're also very"}, {"start": "00:48:24", "end": "00:48:29", "text": "ancient. And everything I'm saying to"}, {"start": "00:48:26", "end": "00:48:32", "text": "you, we see the instructions for this"}, {"start": "00:48:29", "end": "00:48:34", "text": "kind of prayer, for this code that"}, {"start": "00:48:32", "end": "00:48:37", "text": "allows us to speak directly to the"}, {"start": "00:48:34", "end": "00:48:39", "text": "matrix. We see these principles uh"}, {"start": "00:48:37", "end": "00:48:43", "text": "recorded in some of our our most"}, {"start": "00:48:39", "end": "00:48:45", "text": "ancient, cherished spiritual traditions."}, {"start": "00:48:43", "end": "00:48:47", "text": "And I'm talking about lost biblical"}, {"start": "00:48:45", "end": "00:48:48", "text": "books that I described earlier in this"}, {"start": "00:48:47", "end": "00:48:49", "text": "program."}, {"start": "00:48:48", "end": "00:48:52", "text": "These are the books that were discovered"}, {"start": "00:48:49", "end": "00:48:55", "text": "in the mid-20th century as the Nag"}, {"start": "00:48:52", "end": "00:48:56", "text": "Hammadi library in Egypt. Remember the"}, {"start": "00:48:55", "end": "00:48:58", "text": "the Dead Sea Scrolls are the oldest"}, {"start": "00:48:56", "end": "00:49:01", "text": "records of the Old Testament. The Nag"}, {"start": "00:48:58", "end": "00:49:03", "text": "Hammadi library are the oldest records"}, {"start": "00:49:01", "end": "00:49:06", "text": "of the New Testament. Both of them found"}, {"start": "00:49:03", "end": "00:49:08", "text": "uh mid-20th century, the 1940s."}, {"start": "00:49:06", "end": "00:49:11", "text": "And in that Nag Hammadi library, the 43"}, {"start": "00:49:08", "end": "00:49:12", "text": "plus books that were completely removed"}, {"start": "00:49:11", "end": "00:49:15", "text": "from the biblical canon in the 4th"}, {"start": "00:49:12", "end": "00:49:17", "text": "century by the Emperor Constantine were"}, {"start": "00:49:15", "end": "00:49:19", "text": "intact in the Nag Hammadi library,"}, {"start": "00:49:17", "end": "00:49:22", "text": "including the Gospel of Thomas that"}, {"start": "00:49:19", "end": "00:49:23", "text": "we've spoken about earlier. Thomas the"}, {"start": "00:49:22", "end": "00:49:25", "text": "scribe"}, {"start": "00:49:23", "end": "00:49:27", "text": "that followed the master, Jesus, the"}, {"start": "00:49:25", "end": "00:49:30", "text": "teacher, not a religious man from this"}, {"start": "00:49:27", "end": "00:49:32", "text": "perspective. But he followed the teacher"}, {"start": "00:49:30", "end": "00:49:34", "text": "and he recorded the words, the exact"}, {"start": "00:49:32", "end": "00:49:36", "text": "words of the teacher. And this is"}, {"start": "00:49:34", "end": "00:49:39", "text": "important because there is a place in"}, {"start": "00:49:36", "end": "00:49:40", "text": "the Gospel of Thomas where his [music]"}, {"start": "00:49:39", "end": "00:49:43", "text": "students asked"}, {"start": "00:49:40", "end": "00:49:45", "text": "the teacher how to communicate with the"}, {"start": "00:49:43", "end": "00:49:48", "text": "field. They didn't use those terms."}, {"start": "00:49:45", "end": "00:49:50", "text": "They asked how to communicate with God."}, {"start": "00:49:48", "end": "00:49:52", "text": "And it's in the Gospel of Thomas that we"}, {"start": "00:49:50", "end": "00:49:54", "text": "find the instructions for the fifth"}, {"start": "00:49:52", "end": "00:49:56", "text": "mode, the lost mode of prayer."}, {"start": "00:49:54", "end": "00:49:58", "text": "Now, I mentioned earlier that you've"}, {"start": "00:49:56", "end": "00:50:01", "text": "heard the term when something is lost in"}, {"start": "00:49:58", "end": "00:50:02", "text": "translation. And it is this translation"}, {"start": "00:50:01", "end": "00:50:04", "text": "that I'm going to share with you from"}, {"start": "00:50:02", "end": "00:50:07", "text": "this biblical book after its discovery"}, {"start": "00:50:04", "end": "00:50:09", "text": "that is a beautiful example of just how"}, {"start": "00:50:07", "end": "00:50:12", "text": "much a difference, one difference, an"}, {"start": "00:50:09", "end": "00:50:15", "text": "error in translation can make."}, {"start": "00:50:12", "end": "00:50:18", "text": "So, it's in the Gospel of Thomas that we"}, {"start": "00:50:15", "end": "00:50:20", "text": "actually find the instructions"}, {"start": "00:50:18", "end": "00:50:23", "text": "for this fifth or this lost mode of"}, {"start": "00:50:20", "end": "00:50:24", "text": "prayers as I mentioned. So, let me first"}, {"start": "00:50:23", "end": "00:50:27", "text": "read to you"}, {"start": "00:50:24", "end": "00:50:29", "text": "the translation in the authorized"}, {"start": "00:50:27", "end": "00:50:30", "text": "version of the King James Bible as we"}, {"start": "00:50:29", "end": "00:50:32", "text": "see it today. If you'd like to see this"}, {"start": "00:50:30", "end": "00:50:35", "text": "for yourself, it's in King James"}, {"start": "00:50:32", "end": "00:50:37", "text": "version, uh the book of John 16 through"}, {"start": "00:50:35", "end": "00:50:38", "text": "23 is where you would find this. I know"}, {"start": "00:50:37", "end": "00:50:40", "text": "you've heard this before. How many of"}, {"start": "00:50:38", "end": "00:50:42", "text": "you have heard, uh ask and you shall"}, {"start": "00:50:40", "end": "00:50:44", "text": "receive? That's where this comes from."}, {"start": "00:50:42", "end": "00:50:44", "text": "Let me read you the translation."}, {"start": "00:50:44", "end": "00:50:46", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:50:44", "end": "00:50:48", "text": ">> The translation goes like this."}, {"start": "00:50:46", "end": "00:50:51", "text": "Whatsoever you ask the Father in my"}, {"start": "00:50:48", "end": "00:50:53", "text": "name, he will give it to you. Ask and"}, {"start": "00:50:51", "end": "00:50:54", "text": "you shall receive that your joy may be"}, {"start": "00:50:53", "end": "00:50:55", "text": "full."}, {"start": "00:50:54", "end": "00:50:56", "text": "Okay, and that's the end of the"}, {"start": "00:50:55", "end": "00:50:57", "text": "translation."}, {"start": "00:50:56", "end": "00:50:58", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:50:57", "end": "00:51:00", "text": ">> I don't know about you, when I was a"}, {"start": "00:50:58", "end": "00:51:02", "text": "kid, I would ask and ask and ask and not"}, {"start": "00:51:00", "end": "00:51:04", "text": "much would happen and I became very"}, {"start": "00:51:02", "end": "00:51:05", "text": "frustrated many people do."}, {"start": "00:51:04", "end": "00:51:07", "text": "We feel powerless. We feel that our"}, {"start": "00:51:05", "end": "00:51:10", "text": "prayers really aren't making any any"}, {"start": "00:51:07", "end": "00:51:13", "text": "difference because we're not seeing uh"}, {"start": "00:51:10", "end": "00:51:15", "text": "any way to reinforce"}, {"start": "00:51:13", "end": "00:51:16", "text": "that our prayers have actually done"}, {"start": "00:51:15", "end": "00:51:19", "text": "something, they've made a difference."}, {"start": "00:51:16", "end": "00:51:19", "text": "Think now about a simulation."}, {"start": "00:51:19", "end": "00:51:21", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:51:19", "end": "00:51:25", "text": ">> We know that it takes a certain genetic"}, {"start": "00:51:21", "end": "00:51:27", "text": "makeup to hold the energy of the spirit"}, {"start": "00:51:25", "end": "00:51:29", "text": "[music] or the soul,"}, {"start": "00:51:27", "end": "00:51:32", "text": "the consciousness that we bring into"}, {"start": "00:51:29", "end": "00:51:36", "text": "this world and apparently not any old"}, {"start": "00:51:32", "end": "00:51:38", "text": "formula of DNA was up to the task. So,"}, {"start": "00:51:36", "end": "00:51:40", "text": "when we look into our past and we find"}, {"start": "00:51:38", "end": "00:51:42", "text": "forms of life"}, {"start": "00:51:40", "end": "00:51:44", "text": "that were perhaps not as conscious, not"}, {"start": "00:51:42", "end": "00:51:48", "text": "as evolved as us."}, {"start": "00:51:44", "end": "00:51:50", "text": "In the simulation idea, these are the"}, {"start": "00:51:48", "end": "00:51:53", "text": "forms of life, the first forms. They"}, {"start": "00:51:50", "end": "00:51:57", "text": "were the early attempts to create the"}, {"start": "00:51:53", "end": "00:52:00", "text": "avatars in [music] this simulated world."}, {"start": "00:51:57", "end": "00:52:02", "text": "But their genetic makeup was not strong"}, {"start": "00:52:00", "end": "00:52:04", "text": "enough to hold the energy of the soul."}, {"start": "00:52:02", "end": "00:52:07", "text": "You and I are the product of a genetic"}, {"start": "00:52:04", "end": "00:52:09", "text": "formula, a very specific form of DNA,"}, {"start": "00:52:07", "end": "00:52:11", "text": "and apparently it is this form that's"}, {"start": "00:52:09", "end": "00:52:14", "text": "required to hold [music] the energy of"}, {"start": "00:52:11", "end": "00:52:16", "text": "the soul in this simulation experience"}, {"start": "00:52:14", "end": "00:52:19", "text": "so that we can have the experiences,"}, {"start": "00:52:16", "end": "00:52:20", "text": "learn what we're learning, and maintain"}, {"start": "00:52:19", "end": "00:52:20", "text": "the consciousness"}, {"start": "00:52:20", "end": "00:52:22", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:52:20", "end": "00:52:24", "text": ">> that we have as we go through our"}, {"start": "00:52:22", "end": "00:52:25", "text": "experience."}, {"start": "00:52:24", "end": "00:52:28", "text": "So, once again, what we're doing is"}, {"start": "00:52:25", "end": "00:52:30", "text": "we're taking these very ancient ideas,"}, {"start": "00:52:28", "end": "00:52:32", "text": "and we're rethinking them with a"}, {"start": "00:52:30", "end": "00:52:34", "text": "contemporary language based on what the"}, {"start": "00:52:32", "end": "00:52:35", "text": "best science of the modern world is now"}, {"start": "00:52:34", "end": "00:52:35", "text": "suggesting"}, {"start": "00:52:35", "end": "00:52:38", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:52:35", "end": "00:52:39", "text": ">> is the reality that we're experiencing."}, {"start": "00:52:38", "end": "00:52:41", "text": "So, heaven,"}, {"start": "00:52:39", "end": "00:52:41", "text": "where do we go when we die?"}, {"start": "00:52:41", "end": "00:52:42", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:52:41", "end": "00:52:44", "text": ">> What is God?"}, {"start": "00:52:42", "end": "00:52:47", "text": "All of these now take on a new meaning."}, {"start": "00:52:44", "end": "00:52:49", "text": "God, whoever God is, apparently [music]"}, {"start": "00:52:47", "end": "00:52:52", "text": "is the architect"}, {"start": "00:52:49", "end": "00:52:55", "text": "uh that was a primary designer of this"}, {"start": "00:52:52", "end": "00:52:56", "text": "simulation. And I'm looking forward to"}, {"start": "00:52:55", "end": "00:52:58", "text": "getting to the other side and meeting"}, {"start": "00:52:56", "end": "00:53:00", "text": "that architect at some point in our"}, {"start": "00:52:58", "end": "00:53:01", "text": "future. Then I think we have to look at"}, {"start": "00:53:00", "end": "00:53:03", "text": "what those traditions are telling us,"}, {"start": "00:53:01", "end": "00:53:06", "text": "and they're teaching us about our"}, {"start": "00:53:03", "end": "00:53:09", "text": "relationship to reality, uh to [music]"}, {"start": "00:53:06", "end": "00:53:12", "text": "uh to quantum reality, to"}, {"start": "00:53:09", "end": "00:53:15", "text": "emotions and the emotions of the heart"}, {"start": "00:53:12", "end": "00:53:17", "text": "to create and heal in our bodies and the"}, {"start": "00:53:15", "end": "00:53:18", "text": "world around us. And if we master those,"}, {"start": "00:53:17", "end": "00:53:19", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:53:18", "end": "00:53:23", "text": ">> maybe that's what this simulation is all"}, {"start": "00:53:19", "end": "00:53:24", "text": "about. God eternal within the body uh"}, {"start": "00:53:23", "end": "00:53:27", "text": "may be"}, {"start": "00:53:24", "end": "00:53:28", "text": "uh the architect that has helped to"}, {"start": "00:53:27", "end": "00:53:30", "text": "create this simulation."}, {"start": "00:53:28", "end": "00:53:31", "text": ">> Do you ever get frustrated that we"}, {"start": "00:53:30", "end": "00:53:33", "text": "[music] don't have the answers?"}, {"start": "00:53:31", "end": "00:53:36", "text": ">> I don't, George. I don't because what it"}, {"start": "00:53:33", "end": "00:53:38", "text": "tells me is when what I've come to"}, {"start": "00:53:36", "end": "00:53:41", "text": "understand is that when we are"}, {"start": "00:53:38", "end": "00:53:43", "text": "truly ready for that information, it"}, {"start": "00:53:41", "end": "00:53:45", "text": "it's right there. And now as we're able"}, {"start": "00:53:43", "end": "00:53:48", "text": "to go back into the history, uh the"}, {"start": "00:53:45", "end": "00:53:50", "text": "written text and the the non-written"}, {"start": "00:53:48", "end": "00:53:52", "text": "text, the geologic texts of of our"}, {"start": "00:53:50", "end": "00:53:55", "text": "world, we see very clear evidence that"}, {"start": "00:53:52", "end": "00:53:57", "text": "this in fact has happened. That Earth,"}, {"start": "00:53:55", "end": "00:54:00", "text": "every once in a while,"}, {"start": "00:53:57", "end": "00:54:02", "text": "slows a rotation to a point"}, {"start": "00:54:00", "end": "00:54:04", "text": "where there is a rest period. There is"}, {"start": "00:54:02", "end": "00:54:07", "text": "no rotation."}, {"start": "00:54:04", "end": "00:54:09", "text": "And it rests for a brief period of time"}, {"start": "00:54:07", "end": "00:54:10", "text": "and begins to increase the rotation"}, {"start": "00:54:09", "end": "00:54:10", "text": "again."}, {"start": "00:54:10", "end": "00:54:12", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:54:10", "end": "00:54:15", "text": ">> And as it does so, it rotates in the"}, {"start": "00:54:12", "end": "00:54:17", "text": "opposite direction."}, {"start": "00:54:15", "end": "00:54:18", "text": "And again, as a geologist, when I first"}, {"start": "00:54:17", "end": "00:54:20", "text": "began to understand that, I said,"}, {"start": "00:54:18", "end": "00:54:23", "text": "\"That's just outrageous.\" And the more I"}, {"start": "00:54:20", "end": "00:54:24", "text": "researched, the more I read, the more I"}, {"start": "00:54:23", "end": "00:54:27", "text": "I went back and looked at the ancient"}, {"start": "00:54:24", "end": "00:54:29", "text": "text, we see that it in fact has"}, {"start": "00:54:27", "end": "00:54:31", "text": "happened at least once that we're able"}, {"start": "00:54:29", "end": "00:54:33", "text": "to record um"}, {"start": "00:54:31", "end": "00:54:34", "text": "we're able to discern in recorded"}, {"start": "00:54:33", "end": "00:54:36", "text": "history."}, {"start": "00:54:34", "end": "00:54:38", "text": "Uh"}, {"start": "00:54:36", "end": "00:54:39", "text": "when I was in school, I was taught that"}, {"start": "00:54:38", "end": "00:54:42", "text": "if Earth ever stopped rotating, there'd"}, {"start": "00:54:39", "end": "00:54:43", "text": "be no gravity. And I get that question"}, {"start": "00:54:42", "end": "00:54:45", "text": "all the time. People say, \"Well,"}, {"start": "00:54:43", "end": "00:54:47", "text": "what what about gravity? Uh if there's"}, {"start": "00:54:45", "end": "00:54:49", "text": "no rotation, that means everything flies"}, {"start": "00:54:47", "end": "00:54:51", "text": "off off the the planet.\" And I remember"}, {"start": "00:54:49", "end": "00:54:52", "text": "there were textbooks uh when I was in"}, {"start": "00:54:51", "end": "00:54:55", "text": "school that showed just that. They said,"}, {"start": "00:54:52", "end": "00:54:56", "text": "\"If ever Earth would stop rotating, uh"}, {"start": "00:54:55", "end": "00:54:58", "text": "everybody would fly off.\" And they had"}, {"start": "00:54:56", "end": "00:55:00", "text": "these pictures of people that were"}, {"start": "00:54:58", "end": "00:55:02", "text": "that were like this. Uh everybody was"}, {"start": "00:55:00", "end": "00:55:05", "text": "having a a bad hair day the day that the"}, {"start": "00:55:02", "end": "00:55:07", "text": "that the the Earth stops rotating."}, {"start": "00:55:05", "end": "00:55:09", "text": "Uh and we now know that that is simply"}, {"start": "00:55:07", "end": "00:55:12", "text": "not the case. That Earth's gravity is"}, {"start": "00:55:09", "end": "00:55:14", "text": "not a function of the rotation. Without"}, {"start": "00:55:12", "end": "00:55:15", "text": "rotation at all, Earth still has"}, {"start": "00:55:14", "end": "00:55:18", "text": "gravity."}, {"start": "00:55:15", "end": "00:55:21", "text": "When we send astronauts in the space"}, {"start": "00:55:18", "end": "00:55:24", "text": "uh and they are weightless in space, and"}, {"start": "00:55:21", "end": "00:55:26", "text": "we we [music] propel their craft in a"}, {"start": "00:55:24", "end": "00:55:27", "text": "rotational fashion"}, {"start": "00:55:26", "end": "00:55:29", "text": "so that they are able to stay on the"}, {"start": "00:55:27", "end": "00:55:31", "text": "sides of their capsule, that's not"}, {"start": "00:55:29", "end": "00:55:34", "text": "really gravity. What that is is a"}, {"start": "00:55:31", "end": "00:55:37", "text": "centrifugal force that is throwing"}, {"start": "00:55:34", "end": "00:55:40", "text": "everything out to the sides of the craft"}, {"start": "00:55:37", "end": "00:55:43", "text": "so that they are able to to uh simulate"}, {"start": "00:55:40", "end": "00:55:45", "text": "gravity. That is not true gravity."}, {"start": "00:55:43", "end": "00:55:48", "text": "Uh so, what I'm saying to you is that"}, {"start": "00:55:45", "end": "00:55:49", "text": "whether Earth rotates or not uh is"}, {"start": "00:55:48", "end": "00:55:51", "text": "irrelevant in terms of the gravity of"}, {"start": "00:55:49", "end": "00:55:52", "text": "the Earth."}, {"start": "00:55:51", "end": "00:55:54", "text": "We"}, {"start": "00:55:52", "end": "00:55:56", "text": "uh have records. If if this were to"}, {"start": "00:55:54", "end": "00:55:58", "text": "happen recorded human history, I would"}, {"start": "00:55:56", "end": "00:56:00", "text": "certainly expect that it would have been"}, {"start": "00:55:58", "end": "00:56:02", "text": "someone would have noticed it and we"}, {"start": "00:56:00", "end": "00:56:04", "text": "would see it in our texts. And in fact,"}, {"start": "00:56:02", "end": "00:56:05", "text": "we do. The Mayans just called it great"}, {"start": "00:56:04", "end": "00:56:06", "text": "central sun. If you ever heard of the"}, {"start": "00:56:05", "end": "00:56:07", "text": "great central sun?"}, {"start": "00:56:06", "end": "00:56:09", "text": "This is what they were talking about."}, {"start": "00:56:07", "end": "00:56:12", "text": "So, there's a very powerful field of"}, {"start": "00:56:09", "end": "00:56:13", "text": "energy that affects the way we live our"}, {"start": "00:56:12", "end": "00:56:15", "text": "lives here on Earth. That's the first"}, {"start": "00:56:13", "end": "00:56:16", "text": "discovery. The second discovery"}, {"start": "00:56:15", "end": "00:56:19", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:56:16", "end": "00:56:22", "text": ">> is all about location, location,"}, {"start": "00:56:19", "end": "00:56:25", "text": "location, location."}, {"start": "00:56:22", "end": "00:56:29", "text": "Where we are in our orbit around that"}, {"start": "00:56:25", "end": "00:56:30", "text": "field of energy determines how we are"}, {"start": "00:56:29", "end": "00:56:32", "text": "influenced."}, {"start": "00:56:30", "end": "00:56:34", "text": "Now, this is our Milky Way galaxy. This"}, {"start": "00:56:32", "end": "00:56:36", "text": "is a diagram of our Milky Way galaxy,"}, {"start": "00:56:34", "end": "00:56:38", "text": "but the yellow orbit is our orbit around"}, {"start": "00:56:36", "end": "00:56:40", "text": "that source of energy. It's not a"}, {"start": "00:56:38", "end": "00:56:42", "text": "circle, it's an ellipse. So, that means"}, {"start": "00:56:40", "end": "00:56:44", "text": "sometimes there are places in the orbit"}, {"start": "00:56:42", "end": "00:56:46", "text": "where we're closer to that field of"}, {"start": "00:56:44", "end": "00:56:47", "text": "energy. Sometimes there are places in"}, {"start": "00:56:46", "end": "00:56:49", "text": "that orbit where we're further away. Can"}, {"start": "00:56:47", "end": "00:56:51", "text": "you see that? Can you see why that would"}, {"start": "00:56:49", "end": "00:56:54", "text": "be? Okay. So, where we are determines"}, {"start": "00:56:51", "end": "00:56:56", "text": "how we are influenced, and this is where"}, {"start": "00:56:54", "end": "00:57:00", "text": "it gets really interesting. That"}, {"start": "00:56:56", "end": "00:57:03", "text": "location changes on a regular basis"}, {"start": "00:57:00", "end": "00:57:06", "text": "covering vast cycles of time."}, {"start": "00:57:03", "end": "00:57:08", "text": "This is documented in the very"}, {"start": "00:57:06", "end": "00:57:10", "text": "prestigious journal Nature in different"}, {"start": "00:57:08", "end": "00:57:13", "text": "series of articles such as the ones"}, {"start": "00:57:10", "end": "00:57:14", "text": "volume 441, May 2006. If you're"}, {"start": "00:57:13", "end": "00:57:15", "text": "interested in looking these kinds of"}, {"start": "00:57:14", "end": "00:57:17", "text": "things up."}, {"start": "00:57:15", "end": "00:57:20", "text": "Now, this is interesting because somehow"}, {"start": "00:57:17", "end": "00:57:23", "text": "our ancestors knew this before our"}, {"start": "00:57:20", "end": "00:57:23", "text": "satellites and our GPS and our computers"}, {"start": "00:57:23", "end": "00:57:26", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:57:23", "end": "00:57:28", "text": ">> verified it in the 20th century."}, {"start": "00:57:26", "end": "00:57:30", "text": "Our ancestors knew that on a cyclic"}, {"start": "00:57:28", "end": "00:57:32", "text": "basis [music] life on this planet"}, {"start": "00:57:30", "end": "00:57:34", "text": "changes because of these orbits, but"}, {"start": "00:57:32", "end": "00:57:37", "text": "science has discounted it"}, {"start": "00:57:34", "end": "00:57:39", "text": "until very recently, within the last 10"}, {"start": "00:57:37", "end": "00:57:41", "text": "years or so. Isn't that interesting?"}, {"start": "00:57:39", "end": "00:57:43", "text": "Science is just now catching up"}, {"start": "00:57:41", "end": "00:57:45", "text": "in some respects to the wisdom of our"}, {"start": "00:57:43", "end": "00:57:48", "text": "indigenous ancestors."}, {"start": "00:57:45", "end": "00:57:49", "text": "Ancient civilizations, they understood"}, {"start": "00:57:48", "end": "00:57:52", "text": "the cycles,"}, {"start": "00:57:49", "end": "00:57:56", "text": "but they also warned us of what those"}, {"start": "00:57:52", "end": "00:57:57", "text": "changes would be, and they also left"}, {"start": "00:57:56", "end": "00:57:59", "text": "information [music]"}, {"start": "00:57:57", "end": "00:58:01", "text": "for us that would help us personally get"}, {"start": "00:57:59", "end": "00:58:04", "text": "through the changes, to help us"}, {"start": "00:58:01", "end": "00:58:07", "text": "personally navigate the changes in our"}, {"start": "00:58:04", "end": "00:58:09", "text": "lives. I felt like one of the most"}, {"start": "00:58:07", "end": "00:58:11", "text": "empowering things that I could share"}, {"start": "00:58:09", "end": "00:58:13", "text": "with you today is to help you understand"}, {"start": "00:58:11", "end": "00:58:15", "text": "what causes the cycles. Because if you"}, {"start": "00:58:13", "end": "00:58:17", "text": "know this, it's not just me telling you,"}, {"start": "00:58:15", "end": "00:58:19", "text": "but if you really understand what causes"}, {"start": "00:58:17", "end": "00:58:20", "text": "the cycles,"}, {"start": "00:58:19", "end": "00:58:22", "text": "then no matter what happens, no matter"}, {"start": "00:58:20", "end": "00:58:24", "text": "what documentary you see, no matter what"}, {"start": "00:58:22", "end": "00:58:26", "text": "frightening news program you see, or"}, {"start": "00:58:24", "end": "00:58:29", "text": "what conversation you have with someone,"}, {"start": "00:58:26", "end": "00:58:31", "text": "you can think back to this moment, and"}, {"start": "00:58:29", "end": "00:58:33", "text": "you'll know where that information fits."}, {"start": "00:58:31", "end": "00:58:35", "text": "So, are you okay if we do this for a"}, {"start": "00:58:33", "end": "00:58:37", "text": "minute? I just I want you to see what it"}, {"start": "00:58:35", "end": "00:58:39", "text": "is that causes these cycles. Right now,"}, {"start": "00:58:37", "end": "00:58:41", "text": "the theory"}, {"start": "00:58:39", "end": "00:58:44", "text": "is this, and it is a theory because"}, {"start": "00:58:41", "end": "00:58:46", "text": "there's no better explanation right now."}, {"start": "00:58:44", "end": "00:58:49", "text": "That Earth is being pulled in by two"}, {"start": "00:58:46", "end": "00:58:51", "text": "different forces. The moon, that's that"}, {"start": "00:58:49", "end": "00:58:53", "text": "little blue dot up to the upper right,"}, {"start": "00:58:51", "end": "00:58:55", "text": "that's the moon. The gravity of the moon"}, {"start": "00:58:53", "end": "00:58:57", "text": "is pulling Earth one way, the gravity of"}, {"start": "00:58:55", "end": "00:58:59", "text": "the sun is pulling Earth the other"}, {"start": "00:58:57", "end": "00:59:01", "text": "direction. And you say, \"Well,"}, {"start": "00:58:59", "end": "00:59:04", "text": "the moon's really small.\" And I say,"}, {"start": "00:59:01", "end": "00:59:06", "text": "\"Yeah, it is, but it's way close.\""}, {"start": "00:59:04", "end": "00:59:10", "text": "The sun is really big, but it's further"}, {"start": "00:59:06", "end": "00:59:13", "text": "away. Okay, so every 24 hours, [music]"}, {"start": "00:59:10", "end": "00:59:15", "text": "Earth rotates, creating night and day."}, {"start": "00:59:13", "end": "00:59:16", "text": "It spins on its axis. But because it's"}, {"start": "00:59:15", "end": "00:59:20", "text": "being pulled in two different"}, {"start": "00:59:16", "end": "00:59:22", "text": "directions, that spin becomes a wobble."}, {"start": "00:59:20", "end": "00:59:24", "text": "Here's what I mean by that."}, {"start": "00:59:22", "end": "00:59:26", "text": "Here's a little schematic. Here is"}, {"start": "00:59:24", "end": "00:59:28", "text": "Earth. It wants to spin to create night"}, {"start": "00:59:26", "end": "00:59:30", "text": "and day, but because it's being pulled"}, {"start": "00:59:28", "end": "00:59:33", "text": "in two different directions, the theory"}, {"start": "00:59:30", "end": "00:59:36", "text": "says that spin becomes a wobble."}, {"start": "00:59:33", "end": "00:59:38", "text": "But the wobble"}, {"start": "00:59:36", "end": "00:59:40", "text": "happens over a very"}, {"start": "00:59:38", "end": "00:59:43", "text": "long period of time. One wobble takes"}, {"start": "00:59:40", "end": "00:59:45", "text": "about 26,000 [music] years."}, {"start": "00:59:43", "end": "00:59:46", "text": "You and I weren't here to see the last"}, {"start": "00:59:45", "end": "00:59:49", "text": "wobble."}, {"start": "00:59:46", "end": "00:59:51", "text": "The end of the last wobble."}, {"start": "00:59:49", "end": "00:59:54", "text": "One wobble takes about 26,000 years."}, {"start": "00:59:51", "end": "00:59:57", "text": "That number sound familiar to anyone?"}, {"start": "00:59:54", "end": "00:59:59", "text": "26,000 years. If you are an astrologer,"}, {"start": "00:59:57", "end": "01:00:02", "text": "that is a period of time that is called"}, {"start": "00:59:59", "end": "01:00:04", "text": "the precession of the equinoxes."}, {"start": "01:00:02", "end": "01:00:05", "text": "Or if you've never heard of that before,"}, {"start": "01:00:04", "end": "01:00:07", "text": "that is the period of time it takes"}, {"start": "01:00:05", "end": "01:00:09", "text": "Earth to go through all the zodiac"}, {"start": "01:00:07", "end": "01:00:11", "text": "signs. The age of Pisces, the age of"}, {"start": "01:00:09", "end": "01:00:13", "text": "Aquarius, the age of Aries, the age of"}, {"start": "01:00:11", "end": "01:00:15", "text": "Cancer. When you go through all of those"}, {"start": "01:00:13", "end": "01:00:17", "text": "different ages, you've done one complete"}, {"start": "01:00:15", "end": "01:00:19", "text": "wobble, 26,000 [music]"}, {"start": "01:00:17", "end": "01:00:20", "text": "years. Now, this is really interesting."}, {"start": "01:00:19", "end": "01:00:22", "text": "You all know about fractals? You know"}, {"start": "01:00:20", "end": "01:00:24", "text": "what fractals are?"}, {"start": "01:00:22", "end": "01:00:25", "text": "A fractal"}, {"start": "01:00:24", "end": "01:00:27", "text": "the best way to describe a fractal. You"}, {"start": "01:00:25", "end": "01:00:29", "text": "remember how much you loved science when"}, {"start": "01:00:27", "end": "01:00:30", "text": "you were in school? And you loved your"}, {"start": "01:00:29", "end": "01:00:32", "text": "science book, see?"}, {"start": "01:00:30", "end": "01:00:34", "text": "If you're like me,"}, {"start": "01:00:32", "end": "01:00:36", "text": "one of my favorite pages in my science"}, {"start": "01:00:34", "end": "01:00:37", "text": "book was a page that had a picture of an"}, {"start": "01:00:36", "end": "01:00:38", "text": "atom."}, {"start": "01:00:37", "end": "01:00:40", "text": "Because it was one of the few color"}, {"start": "01:00:38", "end": "01:00:43", "text": "pages. Bruce, your your color page was"}, {"start": "01:00:40", "end": "01:00:44", "text": "on the periodic table of elements in"}, {"start": "01:00:43", "end": "01:00:46", "text": "your science book, cuz we've talked"}, {"start": "01:00:44", "end": "01:00:48", "text": "about this. My only color picture in my"}, {"start": "01:00:46", "end": "01:00:50", "text": "science book was the atom. So, I turned"}, {"start": "01:00:48", "end": "01:00:51", "text": "to it all the time."}, {"start": "01:00:50", "end": "01:00:53", "text": "And I remember looking at the atom and I"}, {"start": "01:00:51", "end": "01:00:55", "text": "thought"}, {"start": "01:00:53", "end": "01:00:58", "text": "I thought, you know, except"}, {"start": "01:00:55", "end": "01:01:00", "text": "for the size, that atom looks a whole"}, {"start": "01:00:58", "end": "01:01:01", "text": "lot like a solar system. Except it's"}, {"start": "01:01:00", "end": "01:01:03", "text": "tiny. You remember ever thinking about"}, {"start": "01:01:01", "end": "01:01:05", "text": "like that? And And I said, if you take"}, {"start": "01:01:03", "end": "01:01:07", "text": "it one step further,"}, {"start": "01:01:05", "end": "01:01:08", "text": "the solar system, except for the size,"}, {"start": "01:01:07", "end": "01:01:11", "text": "looks a whole lot like a Milky Way"}, {"start": "01:01:08", "end": "01:01:13", "text": "galaxy, except it's smaller."}, {"start": "01:01:11", "end": "01:01:15", "text": "The idea is that it's the same pattern"}, {"start": "01:01:13", "end": "01:01:16", "text": "on different scales. We say the atom is"}, {"start": "01:01:15", "end": "01:01:19", "text": "a fractal"}, {"start": "01:01:16", "end": "01:01:20", "text": "of the solar system, or the solar system"}, {"start": "01:01:19", "end": "01:01:22", "text": "is a fractal of the galaxy. Same"}, {"start": "01:01:20", "end": "01:01:23", "text": "pattern, same principles, but at a"}, {"start": "01:01:22", "end": "01:01:24", "text": "different scale."}, {"start": "01:01:23", "end": "01:01:25", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "01:01:24", "end": "01:01:27", "text": ">> Does that make sense?"}, {"start": "01:01:25", "end": "01:01:29", "text": "Okay. So, this is important because this"}, {"start": "01:01:27", "end": "01:01:31", "text": "26,000 years"}, {"start": "01:01:29", "end": "01:01:32", "text": "this is really, really interesting."}, {"start": "01:01:31", "end": "01:01:33", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "01:01:32", "end": "01:01:37", "text": ">> Do you know how many days,"}, {"start": "01:01:33", "end": "01:01:39", "text": "approximately, how many days does"}, {"start": "01:01:37", "end": "01:01:41", "text": "the gestation of a human embryo take in"}, {"start": "01:01:39", "end": "01:01:45", "text": "the womb of its mother?"}, {"start": "01:01:41", "end": "01:01:48", "text": "About 260 days."}, {"start": "01:01:45", "end": "01:01:51", "text": "260 days is a fractal"}, {"start": "01:01:48", "end": "01:01:52", "text": "of 26,000 years."}, {"start": "01:01:51", "end": "01:01:54", "text": "Here's why that's interesting. The"}, {"start": "01:01:52", "end": "01:01:55", "text": "Mayans, who are talking to us about this"}, {"start": "01:01:54", "end": "01:01:59", "text": "change"}, {"start": "01:01:55", "end": "01:02:02", "text": "the Mayans say that just the way 260"}, {"start": "01:01:59", "end": "01:02:03", "text": "days is the [music] length of time that"}, {"start": "01:02:02", "end": "01:02:07", "text": "we mature in the womb of our mother"}, {"start": "01:02:03", "end": "01:02:10", "text": "before we're born, 26,000 years is the"}, {"start": "01:02:07", "end": "01:02:13", "text": "way we mature on this planet before we"}, {"start": "01:02:10", "end": "01:02:15", "text": "are born into a new way of being."}, {"start": "01:02:13", "end": "01:02:17", "text": "And this is what Bruce is talking about"}, {"start": "01:02:15", "end": "01:02:18", "text": "in his cellular biology, as the cells"}, {"start": "01:02:17", "end": "01:02:20", "text": "are emerging into a new kind of"}, {"start": "01:02:18", "end": "01:02:22", "text": "community."}, {"start": "01:02:20", "end": "01:02:25", "text": "So, I think it's interesting that the"}, {"start": "01:02:22", "end": "01:02:28", "text": "26,000 year cycle is exactly a fractal"}, {"start": "01:02:25", "end": "01:02:30", "text": "of how long we mature inside the womb of"}, {"start": "01:02:28", "end": "01:02:31", "text": "our mother."}, {"start": "01:02:30", "end": "01:02:33", "text": "Uh and the Mayans are telling us in no"}, {"start": "01:02:31", "end": "01:02:36", "text": "uncertain terms that we are emerging"}, {"start": "01:02:33", "end": "01:02:38", "text": "into a a birth, a new way of being in in"}, {"start": "01:02:36", "end": "01:02:40", "text": "this world. There is one name"}, {"start": "01:02:38", "end": "01:02:42", "text": "that has always been held so sacred, and"}, {"start": "01:02:40", "end": "01:02:46", "text": "that name, it is a four-letter name, and"}, {"start": "01:02:42", "end": "01:02:47", "text": "is called the tetragrammaton,"}, {"start": "01:02:46", "end": "01:02:49", "text": "literally meaning the four letters of"}, {"start": "01:02:47", "end": "01:02:51", "text": "the name."}, {"start": "01:02:49", "end": "01:02:53", "text": "In the Hebrew language, which is a"}, {"start": "01:02:51", "end": "01:02:56", "text": "language that is written without the"}, {"start": "01:02:53", "end": "01:02:57", "text": "vowels, is a language of consonants"}, {"start": "01:02:56", "end": "01:02:59", "text": "only. We're going to talk about this in"}, {"start": "01:02:57", "end": "01:03:02", "text": "in just a few moments."}, {"start": "01:02:59", "end": "01:03:07", "text": "It is written from right to left as the"}, {"start": "01:03:02", "end": "01:03:11", "text": "Hebrew letters yod, he, vav, he"}, {"start": "01:03:07", "end": "01:03:13", "text": "representing the uh English letters y h"}, {"start": "01:03:11", "end": "01:03:15", "text": "v h."}, {"start": "01:03:13", "end": "01:03:16", "text": "So, if we're to ask, what was this one"}, {"start": "01:03:15", "end": "01:03:19", "text": "name"}, {"start": "01:03:16", "end": "01:03:21", "text": "that was removed 6,800 times. It is the"}, {"start": "01:03:19", "end": "01:03:24", "text": "name that is represented by those four"}, {"start": "01:03:21", "end": "01:03:26", "text": "letters YHVH."}, {"start": "01:03:24", "end": "01:03:26", "text": "It's called the divine name."}, {"start": "01:03:26", "end": "01:03:28", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "01:03:26", "end": "01:03:30", "text": ">> The true pronunciation, however, has"}, {"start": "01:03:28", "end": "01:03:33", "text": "been hidden throughout the ages because"}, {"start": "01:03:30", "end": "01:03:36", "text": "the vowels are not recorded"}, {"start": "01:03:33", "end": "01:03:38", "text": "in the written format of the old Hebrew,"}, {"start": "01:03:36", "end": "01:03:41", "text": "we do not know precisely. We can"}, {"start": "01:03:38", "end": "01:03:44", "text": "speculate and there's some very good"}, {"start": "01:03:41", "end": "01:03:46", "text": "educated scholarly guesses. The truth is"}, {"start": "01:03:44", "end": "01:03:50", "text": "we don't really know"}, {"start": "01:03:46", "end": "01:03:53", "text": "because the true pronunciation"}, {"start": "01:03:50", "end": "01:03:55", "text": "was hidden in the text. However, the"}, {"start": "01:03:53", "end": "01:03:58", "text": "overwhelming majority of scholarly"}, {"start": "01:03:55", "end": "01:04:00", "text": "opinion believes that the V is"}, {"start": "01:03:58", "end": "01:04:00", "text": "pronounced as a W."}, {"start": "01:04:00", "end": "01:04:02", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "01:04:00", "end": "01:04:07", "text": ">> And in English, if we are to write this"}, {"start": "01:04:02", "end": "01:04:09", "text": "now from left to right, YHWH,"}, {"start": "01:04:07", "end": "01:04:13", "text": "it is believed that the name was"}, {"start": "01:04:09", "end": "01:04:15", "text": "pronounced as Yahweh. Yahweh."}, {"start": "01:04:13", "end": "01:04:19", "text": "Yahweh. [music]"}, {"start": "01:04:15", "end": "01:04:21", "text": "So, when we replace the original text"}, {"start": "01:04:19", "end": "01:04:23", "text": "with that name,"}, {"start": "01:04:21", "end": "01:04:26", "text": "the passage reads, \"Thus you shall"}, {"start": "01:04:23", "end": "01:04:28", "text": "speak, Yahweh has sent me to you."}, {"start": "01:04:26", "end": "01:04:31", "text": "This shall be my name forever, my"}, {"start": "01:04:28", "end": "01:04:33", "text": "appellation for all eternity.\" And if"}, {"start": "01:04:31", "end": "01:04:33", "text": "there's any doubt at all after that,"}, {"start": "01:04:33", "end": "01:04:35", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "01:04:33", "end": "01:04:36", "text": ">> the next passage, this is from the book"}, {"start": "01:04:35", "end": "01:04:40", "text": "of Exodus"}, {"start": "01:04:36", "end": "01:04:42", "text": "in chapter 6 and verse 23, says, \"I am"}, {"start": "01:04:40", "end": "01:04:44", "text": "Yahweh.\" If there were any doubt left in"}, {"start": "01:04:42", "end": "01:04:46", "text": "the mind of the reader, it was clarified"}, {"start": "01:04:44", "end": "01:04:48", "text": "in the single sentence if we are to"}, {"start": "01:04:46", "end": "01:04:49", "text": "believe that the text is accurate. I am"}, {"start": "01:04:48", "end": "01:04:51", "text": "Yahweh."}, {"start": "01:04:49", "end": "01:04:53", "text": "So, where we find ourselves with this"}, {"start": "01:04:51", "end": "01:04:56", "text": "information and where I found myself in"}, {"start": "01:04:53", "end": "01:04:57", "text": "the research after months of of research"}, {"start": "01:04:56", "end": "01:04:58", "text": "is that"}, {"start": "01:04:57", "end": "01:05:00", "text": "I"}, {"start": "01:04:58", "end": "01:05:03", "text": "am convinced beyond any reasonable doubt"}, {"start": "01:05:00", "end": "01:05:06", "text": "that this name YHVH,"}, {"start": "01:05:03", "end": "01:05:07", "text": "pronounced [music] Yahweh, is the name"}, {"start": "01:05:06", "end": "01:05:09", "text": "that was in those original traditions"}, {"start": "01:05:07", "end": "01:05:15", "text": "and it's the name that the Sefer"}, {"start": "01:05:09", "end": "01:05:17", "text": "Yetzirah is referring to that seeded or"}, {"start": "01:05:15", "end": "01:05:20", "text": "was the catalyst that put into motion"}, {"start": "01:05:17", "end": "01:05:21", "text": "the momentum that began all of creation."}, {"start": "01:05:20", "end": "01:05:23", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "01:05:21", "end": "01:05:26", "text": ">> YHVH, Yahweh is the full name. Now, this"}, {"start": "01:05:23", "end": "01:05:29", "text": "is important because in the text there"}, {"start": "01:05:26", "end": "01:05:31", "text": "is a shorter version that is simply Yah,"}, {"start": "01:05:29", "end": "01:05:34", "text": "YH."}, {"start": "01:05:31", "end": "01:05:35", "text": "Yah or Yahweh, both names are used"}, {"start": "01:05:34", "end": "01:05:35", "text": "interchangeably"}, {"start": "01:05:35", "end": "01:05:38", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "01:05:35", "end": "01:05:40", "text": ">> and you'll see them written both ways in"}, {"start": "01:05:38", "end": "01:05:43", "text": "the original Old Testament text as the"}, {"start": "01:05:40", "end": "01:05:45", "text": "personal name"}, {"start": "01:05:43", "end": "01:05:48", "text": "of God that was given to this world. God"}, {"start": "01:05:45", "end": "01:05:51", "text": "was saying, \"In your world, in this"}, {"start": "01:05:48", "end": "01:05:53", "text": "realm of space-time continuum, this is"}, {"start": "01:05:51", "end": "01:05:57", "text": "how you will know me. This is how you'll"}, {"start": "01:05:53", "end": "01:05:57", "text": "call me in your world.\""}]

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We"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "build our future based upon the way that"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "we think about ourselves, based upon our"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "story. [snorts] Now, we see our story is"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "really important. It's not just some"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "idea that we talk about casually at"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "Starbucks, you know, on a Sunday"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "afternoon. But your story plays a role"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "every moment of every day of your life."}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "And for that reason, I think it's worth"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "the time to explore who we are, where"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "our potentials have really come from."}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "And we're going to do this in a couple"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "of different ways. I'm going to share"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "the best science of the modern world."}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "And [snorts] we're going to take this"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "science a step further by crossing the"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "traditional boundaries"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "that have separated the sciences in the"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "past. Here's what I mean by that."}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "If you look at the human body only"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "through the eyes of chemistry, all"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "you're ever going to see is chemical"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "elements, chemical reactions with no"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "context."}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "If you look at the human body only"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "through the eyes of ancient texts and"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "spiritual traditions, you're going to"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "see a story about good and bad and right"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "and wrong and angels and demons, but"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "you're not going to see any of the"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "science that helps us to make that"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "possible."}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "We now have the ability to extract DNA"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "from the fossils of ancient forms of"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "life. [laughter] If that sounds"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "familiar, that is what the movie"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "Jurassic Park is based upon. the first"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "movie, the first Jurassic Park, the"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "really good one, where DNA was extracted"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "from the bone marrow of ancient forms of"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "life. Now, in the movie, they brought"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "those forms of life again. And to the"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "best of my knowledge, we haven't done"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "that successfully. What we have done is"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "extracted the DNA so that we can build"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "the genome, the map, the genetic map of"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "those ancient forms of life. And once we"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "did that, we could compare them to our"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "genome, our map of DNA today. And here's"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "what scientists found. There's not"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "enough overlap between Neanderthal,"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "between Australopycus and these other"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "forms of life and us. We did not descend"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "from Neanderthal. We actually shared the"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "earth with Neanderthal. We we walked the"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "earth. They say that we mated. We had"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "Neanderthal boyfriends and girlfriends."}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "And that's why many people do have a"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "little bit of Neanderthal DNA in their"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "genome today, but we didn't descend from"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "them because we shared the Earth with"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "them. Well, if we didn't descend from"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "them, where'd we come from? What you're"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "seeing on the screen right now, I'm"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "highlighting this."}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "This is actually fossilized DNA. I want"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "you to see what it looks like. Coming"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "from the bone marrow uh of an ancient"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "form of life that was believed to be our"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "our ancestor. Well, here's the bottom"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "line. I'm just going to cut to the"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "chase. What the DNA now is telling us is"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "that our species, we are called"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "anatomically modern human. Okay, that's"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "abbreviated to A MH."}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "Anatomically modern human that we"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "appeared on Earth about 200,000 years BP"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "before present. 200,000 years ago. And"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "here's the kicker. We haven't changed."}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "Our genome is the same now as it is from"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "the fossilized remains that we pull from"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "those ancient forms of life. That's not"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "Darwin's idea of evolution. So now the"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "question, where did the mysterious"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "mutations for our humanness come from?"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "Well, we know the answer and scientists"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "are having a hard time for what the"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "answer is telling us. So let me just"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "share this with you right now. The"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "smoking gun for our human existence is"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "in chromosome number two. A very"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "mysterious chromosome."}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "It has about 1,200 genes. Let me tell"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "you about just one of those. How"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "important just one gene called TBR1."}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "TBR1 is responsible for everything that"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "you see in the blue on the human brain"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "on your screen. That is all because of"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "one gene. It's in the part that you see"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "in the blue where we find the aspects of"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "our humanness that we cherish. Our"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "ability for intuition, telepathy, remote"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "healing, remote viewing, psychokinesis,"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "all of those things, empathy, sympathy,"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "compassion, all originate in the part of"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "the human brain that you see in blue."}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "So, you can see that gene TBR1 is"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "important. Chromosome number two that"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "comes from is important. Where did that"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "come from? Here's the answer. Scientists"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "find that this particular chromosome is"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "the product of two ancient"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "genetic strands fusing"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "into one longer genetic strand."}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "Here is the quote from the proceedings"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "in the National Academy of Science. This"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "is a direct quote. We conclude that"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "human chromosome 2 is the relic of an"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "ancient telomeir to telomeir fusion two"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "ancestral chromosomes. Now I know that"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "sounds a little technical and many of"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "the things I'm saying to you sound"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "technical. I want you to know that"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "there's science behind this and that the"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "science is leading us to a story, a"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "powerful new story about who we are,"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "where we come from. So, I'm giving you"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "some of the technical information for"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "credibility so that you can look this up"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "for yourself. Check it out on your own."}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "Take it deeper and further if if you"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "want to. What this technical paper is"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "saying, if you look at the little little"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "movie I put together on the screen,"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "there's two separate chromosomes."}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "They're coming together and there are"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "genes that are being taken away, genes"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "that are being added to create the"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "fusion. This cannot happen in nature."}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "What this means is our genome is"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "intentional. It's not the product of"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "random mutations of Darwin's survival of"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "the strongest. Now, I want to be really"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "clear about something here. I'm I'm a"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "degreed geologist. I'm an earth"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "scientist and I believe in evolution."}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "Evolution is a fact. We see it in the"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "fossil record. I did it my field work."}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "Evolution of plants, animals, and"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "insects."}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "The theory breaks down when it comes to"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "us humans. Something happened 200,000"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "years ago and that something gave us the"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "humanness that we have today. It means"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "our genome is intentional. It means our"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "divinity and all of our capabilities are"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "intentional. Everything we talked about"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "in the first segment of this series, all"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "those capabilities are intentional."}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "So, here's the question that I asked"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "myself as a scientist back in the 1980s,"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "and I'm going to share with you my"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "process, and I'm going to share with you"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "where this has led to a surprising"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "outcome. Is it possible that who or"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "whatever is responsible for all the"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "things we're talking about for our"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "humanness and our DNA,"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "is it possible that that intelligence"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "could have left a message"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "inside of us telling us that we're the"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "product of an intentional act, that"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "we're not the product of some lucky"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "biology and or random event. And if it"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "is possible that that message would be"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "left, where would we look? We look in"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "the brain, we look in the heart, or"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "would we look into the DNA itself, the"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "very building blocks of life?"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "Well, this is what I want to talk to you"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "about right now. Let me preface this by"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "sharing quickly a discovery."}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "[clears throat] In the year 2007,"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "Japanese scientists released a paper,"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "kind of a mindblowing paper showing that"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "information can be stored in the DNA of"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "living organisms. So what they did was"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "they they stored information in the DNA"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "of a bacteria and they used a bacteria"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "because they multiply quickly. So they"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "could put the information in one"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "generation, 250 generations or 1,500"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "generations later, they could pull that"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "DNA out and see if the information was"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "still there. And and it was. So in 2007,"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "the technical paper showed that DNA is a"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "form of information storage. Now, that"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "is a mindblower to me in terms of how we"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "can actually store information in in"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "DNA. I'm giving you the technical"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "information on your screen if you want"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "to look into it deeper. It's it's beyond"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "the scope of what I'm going to do in"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "here today. But here's the point. If we"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "can store information in DNA today"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "and we are the product of an intelligent"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "act that fused our DNA a long time ago,"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "is it possible that who or whatever that"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "intelligence is did the same thing with"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "us? Did the intelligence responsible for"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "us leave a message in our DNA? But let"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "me show you this goes even further. Now,"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "we know DNA is a thousand times denser"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "for storage than the flash memory drive."}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "DNA is three-dimensional and it's a"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "better storage medium than the flash"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "drive on your computer. You can write"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "information in DNA and store it forever."}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "And that was really really caught my"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "attention. If you can write DNA in an"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "organism and as long as that organism"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "reproduces,"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "the information is intact in that DNA,"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "is that what happened to us? Well, if"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "the answer was no, this would be a very"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "short program. But the answer is yes."}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "Together, let's you and I decode the"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "message that was left in the DNA of"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "every cell of our bodies. And if you've"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "never done this before, I think you're"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "going to be surprised at what you see."}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "Let's begin first just by shifting our"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "thinking a little bit about cells. We're"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "taught that cells are sticky, gooey, wet"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "stuff, little sacks of saline in our"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "bodies. That's a biological perspective."}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "What if we think about cells from an IT"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "perspective, information technology?"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "What if every cell in your body What if"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "every cell in your body is a library of"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "information literally? And what does a"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "library hold? Well, a library holds"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "books. What if the chromosomes in the"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "cell are the books? And what's inside"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "the books? Well, inside the books, we"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "get paragraphs and sentences and words."}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "What if the genes in the chromosome are"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "the paragraphs and the sentences in the"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "words? And if that makes sense to you,"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "that's exactly what's happening inside"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "of your body. 50 trillion cells in your"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "body, you are a living library of"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "information. How do we decode that"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "information? This is where we've got to"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "cross those traditional boundaries that"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "I was talking about earlier."}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "Now, we live in an age where we're being"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "encouraged to replace the gift of our"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "bodies with synthetics, with technology,"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "with AI, computer chips in the brain"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "that mimic our cognition, chemicals in"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "the blood, mimicker our healing, RFID"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "chips under the skin, nanobots moving"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "through our respiratory and our"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "circulatory systems."}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "What do we do with that? Well, that's a"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "very personal choice. Everything that we"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "did in the first module of the series is"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "possible because a higher intelligence,"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "God eternal within the body, gave you"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "the gift of that body. And anything that"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "you do to compromise that gift or to"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "give it away to technology"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "is a choice to deny the gift that was"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "given to you and to me so very long ago."}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "Now, I want you to think about this."}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "This this is an exercise in life. Do we"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "love ourselves enough? You can ask"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "yourself on a very personal level, do I"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "love myself enough to honor, preserve,"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "and protect the gift, the sacred gift"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "that was given to me 200,000 years ago,"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "or will I compromise the gift of my body"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "for the efficiency and the speed of a"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "computer chip or of an artificial"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "intelligence? There is no right or"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "wrong. It's a personal choice. I want"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "you to know what it is you're giving"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "away if you choose to do so. And that's"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "what I wanted to say to you in this"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "module. So, this brings a close to this"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "section, but stay tuned because in the"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "next module, we're going to take this"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "one step further. We're going to go into"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "the artificial intelligence. What is AI?"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "What is artificial intelligence? Can it"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "evaluate our spiritual evolution? Can it"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "tell us about our spiritual history?"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:32", "text": ">> [gasps]"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:33", "text": ">> How does it work to begin with? And I"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "think you're going to be surprised at"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "what you see."}]

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You and I are being challenged"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "right now with the attempt to either"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "merge or replace our humanness with"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "technology."}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "I talked about this in the earlier"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "segments. Is is this natural? Is it the"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "natural evolution? The answer is it's"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "not."}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "Because when we replace our natural"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "biology, we lose the capabilities that"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "that technology is replacing."}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "Our biology is use it or lose it. 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Now this isn't an excuse to do"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "all of those things that are bad for our"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "bodies anyway."}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "But what the discoveries are showing is"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "that we're producing new brain cells"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "until the last breath we take in our"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "lifetimes. It's a part of our brain"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "called the hippocampus. It's constantly"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "producing new neurons."}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "That's a good thing, but there's a"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "little bit of a catch. 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Only we do it better."}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "So, the merging"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "of technology with our natural biology"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "actually prevents us from achieving our"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "destiny."}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "And it does so by preventing us from"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "realizing the full capacity of these"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "natural abilities that were describing"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "here. 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If you do not bring"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "forth that which is within you, what is"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "within you will destroy you."}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "Well, first step, step number one."}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "I'm going to give you three steps."}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "Step number one is to recognize the"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "false narratives"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "that divide us"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "as families,"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "as communities, as societies, as"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "nations, as a planet. 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This isn't"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "spontaneous and it's not random."}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "There's a tactic that's being used and"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "once you once you see it here,"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "you'll be able to recognize that pattern"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "over and over and over again. The key is"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "is seeing it first."}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "This is a pattern that breaks our social"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "bonds."}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "So this particular technique,"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "it's derived from a book that was"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "written in 1989."}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "It was written by a man named Saul"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "Alinsky and the book is called Rules for"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "Radicals."}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "This is a tough conversation. A lot of"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "people don't want to have it, but I want"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "to be real with you because we're in"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "this together. We're facing this"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "together. And you and I are seeing the"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "same things. You're seeing your"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "community divided. Your maybe your"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "families are divided."}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "Parents and kids are at the same dinner"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "table and they're like this because"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "their social media algorithms are"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "telling them different things and both"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "of them believe that what they're"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "telling them is true."}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "All right? 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Maybe"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "it's Christians against Muslims"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "or Jews against Muslims or men against"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "women because we've seen all of this in"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "our society."}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "You pick that target."}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "Then you zero in on it. He says you that"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "target. In other words, that's all you"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "talk about in the media again and again"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "and again."}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "Then you personalize that target."}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "How it is affecting you and your life"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "through narratives that may or may not"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "be true."}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "Okay? Personalize it and then you"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "polarize the target. You make that"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "target the other and we've all heard the"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "term otherness."}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "You make that term something other than"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "the norm."}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "And we've seen this"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "again and again beginning 2011."}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "The Occupy movement, the rich against"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "the poor."}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "99% against the 1%. That's a real"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "problem. And we really need to talk"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "about it in a healthy way."}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "What happened was that real problem was"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "weaponized to divide us rather than talk"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "about it and bring us together."}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "And you can apply it again and again to"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "all the other issues that we talked"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "about with religion, sex, gender, male"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "and female, uh equality, all of these"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "things."}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "They're real problems"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "that have the potential to bring us"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "together"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "if we can talk about them in a healthy"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "way, yet they have been weaponized to"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "divide us and they're doing so"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "successfully."}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "So,"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "I want you to be aware when this happens"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "and see how it happens. Climate change"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "is another issue. It's a very real"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "issue, but it's been weaponized to"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "divide us. Health and healing"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "as well. Don't fall for the trap of"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "being manipulated by this tactic and by"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "false information. So, what do you do?"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "Step one remedies."}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "Take personal responsibility for what"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "you believe. Don't just follow the herd."}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "Break out of your media silo. When you"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "go on to your social media, the"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "algorithms bring you information that"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "reinforces"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "the belief that you've just searched"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "for."}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "And you will be inundated with feeds"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "that support that belief to the"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "exclusion"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "of any competing beliefs."}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "And you will believe that is what's"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "true."}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "Whereas the person next to you has done"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "the same thing with a different"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "algorithm that may have come from a"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "different piece of information. This"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "This how you break the social bonds"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "of families and societies and"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "communities and nations. And this is"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "what makes us vulnerable to the ideas"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "and the agendas of others. So, break out"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "of that social media."}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "How do you do that? You seek"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "unconventional sources of information."}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "Yes, it takes a little bit of work. Yes,"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "it takes a little bit of time."}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "Don't rely on a single source of"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "information. And take into consideration"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "what you've learned in this three"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "segment series about heart intelligence."}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "Go into your heart and ask your heart."}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "Remember, the human heart"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "compelling evidence that the human heart"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "is linked to a field of information that"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "is not bound by the laws of space and"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "time. That is me paraphrasing"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "a scientific peer-reviewed journal. Your"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "heart"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "the neural network in your heart"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "has access"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "to deep truth of information that is not"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "run by those social media algorithms,"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "okay?"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "So, when you're confused, you can always"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "go and ask your heart. Your heart is"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "always with you. Your heart will never"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "lie. You may not like what it tells you,"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "but it won't lie."}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "All right. So, these are four remedies"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "to this step one. And these are things"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "that you can apply in your life. You can"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "begin right now. Step number two."}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "How do you preserve your human-ness"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "in a technological age? Number two,"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "avoid succumbing to the promises"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "of technology to make life easy for you."}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "This is how it's being marketed. I"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "understand what's happening and I'm"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "still in awe at the sexy marketing"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "that make technology in our lives and in"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "our bodies look appealing."}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "Okay, they'll tell you that if you use"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "this AI in your life or use this"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "computer chip in your body in a certain"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "way, you'll be safer and that life is"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "going to be easier."}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "We're told that we're better off with AI"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "making the decisions for us. We're being"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "encouraged to believe that AI is"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "superior to our human-ness."}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "Did I abuse my power in a past life in"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "Atlantis?"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "If you ask the question that way, now"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "look at what's happened. You've told AI"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "you believe there was an Atlantis."}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "You've told AI you believe you had a"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "past life. You've told AI you abused"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "your power. The AI is trained to create"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "confirmation bias."}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "And people are doing this and the AI"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "will come back and say something like,"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "\"Oh, in a past life you misused your"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "power then and now you are learning to"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "accept your power in this lifetime.\" or"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "something like that. Confirmation bias."}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "Now, Chat GPT-5, one of the"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "controversial aspects, has just been"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "released a couple of weeks ago as of the"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "time of this recording."}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "They have toned down the confirmation"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "bias."}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "What that means is that many of the"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "programs that people believe"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "are informing them of their spiritual"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "evolution and spiritual history."}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "Because the program is confirming"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "the way they ask the question, that"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "confirmation bias is going to be"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "reduced. You'll see less of it. And"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "people may be disappointed because the"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "chat GPT-5 may not confirm"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "their past lives in Lemuria or Atlantis"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "or"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "past relationships or things like that."}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "All right? So, I hope this helps to"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "understand a little bit"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "of of what this AI is. It's here to"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "stay. And"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "what I learned in the industry"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "is that whatever we see commercially"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "available to us is the tip of the"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "iceberg"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "of what has already been developed"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "behind the scenes through the military"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:04", "text": "and the military-industrial complex."}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "So, the AI that we're seeing now that's"}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "been released into the public, it's"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "nothing compared to what is happening"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "behind the scenes. And we will see that"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "develop in our lifetimes. It's here to"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "stay."}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "What I want to say to you is have fun"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "with the recreational capabilities. It"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "can be a lot of fun."}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "But I'm inviting you, please reconsider"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "giving your power away."}]

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Some of"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "them were so mystical that even the"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "scholars of the time had no idea what"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "they meant. And they said, \"Well, if we"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "don't understand them, no one will ever"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "understand them, so we might as well"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "throw these documents out.\""}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:34", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:36", "text": ">> Let me ask a question. If if you're"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "listening to this, you probably have had"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "the opportunity to read at least a"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "portion of our Western Bible. 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At least 45 entire books were"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "removed from our modern [music] biblical"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "text. 45 books were removed and the ones"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "that remained were condensed and"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "rearranged into the story that we have"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "today."}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "So, when we ask ourselves,"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "\"Where are all the women in the Bible?\""}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:26", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:28", "text": ">> For example, we know that the books that"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "were lost, there was the entire Gospel"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "of the birth of Mary. 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And it provided the deepest"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "forms of of insight and intuition uh"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "that the monks were accessing at the"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "time."}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "Now, I personally believe this is not"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "the end yet."}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "Because our neurons are designed, the"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "way they interact with the field around"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "us, they're designed to sustain much"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "much more than this. And this is where"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "only beginning to understand. This is"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "part of your humanness, but if we"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "compromise our brain states and begin"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "implanting chips and allowing the chips"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "to do what we are designed to do, we're"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "going to lose these capabilities. The"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "first generation, a few people try it"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "and they say, \"Okay, that's cool. That's"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "fun.\" Pretty soon that becomes the way"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "to do it. And pretty soon everyone is"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "doing it through a chip and no one"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "remembers how to access this"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:13", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:16", "text": ">> this powerful facet of humanness. And"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "then we begin to atrophy those parts of"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "our bodies that we're not using. Does"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "that make sense to you if I say it? So,"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "I'm very passionate about this. [music]"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "The humans must prevail."}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "We are humanness is so precious. At"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "least know what it is before we allow it"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "to be compromised. And we are not at"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "that point right now. Let me go one one"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "step further. One step further."}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "So, the scientist said, \"Well, this must"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "be it. We now have a new map of the"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "brain states, right?\" And the Tibetan"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "said, \"Well,"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "actually,"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "there is another brain state in the"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "place where you typically don't look."}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "You haven't looked yet. It's on the"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "other end of the spectrum.\""}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "And they said, \"Well, what do you mean?"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "I mean, the other end of the spectrum,"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "it begins at less than one cycle per"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "second. It begins at point one. How can"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "you get less than point one?\""}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "Tibetan said, \"We'll show you.\""}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "And they went into"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "a meditation and a brain state."}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "And their brain state is zero cycles per"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "second."}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "To an outside observer, there is no"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "discernable breath."}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "There is no discernable heartbeat."}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "There is no discernable pulse. And they"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "are very very much alive and very"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "conscious. It is called the epsilon"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "brain state. [music] And it is from zero"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "to point one hertz."}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "Now, here's why I'm sharing this with"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "you. This is really interesting."}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "What they discovered, what the"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "scientists found, is that the high end"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "of the lambda brain state and the low"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "end of the epsilon, they both lead to"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "the same [music] state of consciousness."}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "Isn't that interesting?"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "They both take you to the same state."}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "One of them you're in a very awake and"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "an aware state. The other one you're"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "more in a dream-like state. But look at"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "this."}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:03", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:05", "text": ">> They both go to exactly the same place."}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "Different brain states, same state of"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "consciousness."}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "And what this suggests is that we have"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "the ability to tune our brain when we"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "are creating these different tunings"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "in here, it's allowing us to access"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "different bodies of information out"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "there."}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "Different fields."}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "Different places within the field. And"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "as other forms of life do. And this is"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "how we communicate with other forms of"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "life. Horse whisperers, dog whisperers,"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "cat [music] whisperers, plant"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "whisperers."}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "What they're doing, they are empathing."}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "We'll talk about empathing after lunch."}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "They're empathing with the other beings"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "in their immediate environment and"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "they're tuning their consciousness to"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "those other beings."}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "And this is al- al- allowing them to"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "communicate in a very meaningful way."}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "Scientists are asking in the laboratory,"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "does the stuff we're made of have an"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "effect on the stuff our world is made"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "of? This is where it starts to sound"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "like science fiction or at least"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "something that an advanced yogi would be"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "working with."}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "But these are in a bonafide scientific"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "laboratory, these questions. This is"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "where they're being asked. So, here's"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "what [music] they did."}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "They took human DNA"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "and they placed it inside the vessel."}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "And then they measured the DNA again to"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "see what would happen. And they measured"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "the photons again to see what would"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "happen. And the results of this"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "experiment"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:31", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:34", "text": ">> changed the way we have been conditioned"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "to think about ourselves and the world."}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "Because the photons went from being"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "completely random when they were first"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "measured,"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "and in the presence [music]"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "of the human DNA,"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "the photons are no longer random. They"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "are ordered. [music]"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "They followed precisely the geometry of"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "the DNA."}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:54", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:57", "text": ">> The DNA was having a direct effect on"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "the photons. The stuff we're made of is"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "having a direct effect on the stuff our"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "world is made of. Just like some of our"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "most [music] ancient and cherished"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "indigenous and spiritual traditions have"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "always told us that we are [music]"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "connected to the world."}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "So, this is the first experiment. Human"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "DNA has a measurable effect on the stuff"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "our world is made of. Now, al- although"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "the observer effect was first documented"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "during the first double slit experiments"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "early in the 20th century,"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "as happens so often with these very"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "important experiments, [music]"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "this particular experiment was repeated"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "later in the century using even better"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "equipment with new ideas and new"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "understandings. And I'd like to share"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "[music] with you precisely the exact"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "language of what the scientists at the"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "Weizmann Research Institute discovered"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "when they repeated the double [music]"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "slit experiment. In 1998,"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "scientific headlines all over the world"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "reported this experiment. And they read,"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "and this is a quote, \"Researchers at the"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "Weizmann Institute of Science conducted"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "a highly controlled experiment"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "demonstrating how a beam of electrons,"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "so these are quantum particles, a beam"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "of electrons is affected by the act of"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "being observed.\""}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "But even beyond that, that"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "observation effect that was noted early"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "in the century, but listen to this."}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "Listen to the new portion of this"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "discovery."}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "The scientist said, quote, \"The"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "experiment revealed"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:31", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:32", "text": ">> that the greater the amount of watching,"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "the greater the observer's [music]"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "influence on what actually takes place.\""}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "End of quote. And this was actually"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "reported in very prestigious journal"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "Nature"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:44", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:46", "text": ">> February 26, 1998, volume 391, if you"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "want to look at that for yourself. This"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "experiment [music] is telling us that"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "not only are we intimately enmeshed"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "with the world around us [music] and"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "with the world within us, but the more"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "focus, the greater our focus, the"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "greater the attention that we give"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "specifically something that is happening"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "in our lives, the greater the effect."}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "But I think this is interesting because"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "we already knew this if we followed the"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "principles in some of our most ancient,"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "again, and cherished spiritual"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "traditions."}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "We are a highly advanced,"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "technologically sophisticated soft"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "technology, not a primitive hard"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "technology like a clunky computer chip."}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "We're more than that. We are cell"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "membranes and we are neurons and we are"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "DNA. And we are processing"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:35", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:36", "text": ">> in ways that we're only beginning to"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "understand. And this doesn't stop just"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "with the brain. Let me just run through"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "or give you some examples."}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "Well, we now know the average human,"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "whatever average is, has about 50"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "trillion cells in the body. 50 trillion"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "cells."}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "Every one of those cells functions as a"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "tiny circuit."}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "I'm just going to tell you a quick story"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "about this. When I was working in the"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "defense industry during the Cold War"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "years as a a senior computer systems"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "designer"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "writing pattern recognition software."}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "The Cold War was a very civilized kind"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "of war compared to, you know, what we've"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "seen in recent years."}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "Because although the governments"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "were at war, the scientific community"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "was still cooperating and still in"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "communication."}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "I mean, we worked with the Russians uh"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "ultimately and we built a a space"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "station."}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "and and beyond. So, it was during the"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "Cold War"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "that"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "uh we began seeing and I I was in a"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "community in Colorado [music] at that"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "time, a technical commu- community."}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "And there was exchanges of uh of"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "technical"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "you know, biological information. And it"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "was the first time"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "from a Russian scientist that I saw a"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "human cell equated with an electrical"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "circuit. Now, we're used to seeing that"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "today, but you think about that. We're"}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "taught to think of the cells as soft,"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "sticky, gooey, mushy, wet,"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "you know, stuff,"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "biological stuff."}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "Scientists began looking at the human"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "body not from a biological perspective,"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "but from an IT perspective, information"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "technology."}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:17", "text": "And when we do that, it changes"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "everything. Because what we find is that"}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "the the cells, the organ, the tissues,"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "the glands, the DNA in our bodies,"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "[music] the molecules,"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "all function as equivalents of"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "electrical components that we build in"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "the world outside of us."}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "Except [music] it's inside of us. And in"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "many cases, our capabilities meet and"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "even exceed the capabilities of what"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "we're building outside of us. Think"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "about what that means."}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "We're being asked to accept [music]"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "technology into our bodies that in many"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "cases we exceed those capabilities"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "naturally if we understand our bodies,"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "if we understand our soft technology."}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "How many of you ever heard ask and you"}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "shall receive? You all heard that"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "before? I've had people say, \"Man, I ask"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "and ask and ask and I never receive,"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "receive, receive.\""}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "I've asked for a Camaro in the garage, a"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "pile of gold in the living room and"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:19", "text": "nothing's ever happened. How come?"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:22", "text": "Well, not that it's about gold and the"}, {"start": "00:20:19", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "Camaro, but this may give us some ideas"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "of what's happening. What I'd like to do"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "is share with you the original"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "uh as you and I are seeing it today, the"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "original translation and then we'll go"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "back before the translations happened."}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "So, when we look today, you can either"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "look at this in the King James version"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "of John 16:23-24"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "or if you have Secrets of the Lost Mode"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "of Prayer, it's on page 166-167."}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "You don't have to write it down. The"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:47", "text": "translation that we get today says,"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "\"Quote, whatsoever you ask the Father in"}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "my name.\" This has nothing to do with"}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "religion, by the way. I'm just using the"}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "language as it as the teacher shared it."}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "\"Whatsoever you ask the Father in my"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "name, he'll give it to you. Hitherto"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:02", "text": "have you asked nothing in my name.\""}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "So, it's saying that we haven't even"}, {"start": "00:21:02", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "asked. Even if you think you asked, you"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "haven't asked. The next piece of this"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "simply says, \"Ask and you shall receive"}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "it and your joy may be full.\" They cut"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:13", "text": "out the good stuff."}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "The juicy two sentences that tell us how"}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "to do this were edited right out of the"}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "text 1,700 years ago."}, {"start": "00:21:17", "end": "00:21:20", "text": "Would you like to see what they are? I"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "would too. And that was exactly why I"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "put them in here. When I began to"}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:26", "text": "understand this, I said,"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "\"Why don't we put these things back in"}, {"start": "00:21:26", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "the text"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:31", "text": "so that we can have them?\" Let's go back"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "and look. This is um"}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "from the Aramaic, the original Aramaic."}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "This translation comes from Neil Douglas"}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "Klotz. There are other translators who"}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "have done a very similar language. It's"}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:41", "text": "very similar."}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:43", "text": "Here's what it says."}, {"start": "00:21:41", "end": "00:21:45", "text": "\"Quote, all things that you ask"}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "straightly, directly from inside my"}, {"start": "00:21:45", "end": "00:21:49", "text": "name, you'll be given. So far, you've"}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "not done this.\" It's right here. It"}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "looks quite a bit like the first"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "translations. We still haven't asked is"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:57", "text": "what it's saying."}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:21:59", "text": "Here's the next piece. Look at this."}, {"start": "00:21:57", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "It says, \"Quote, ask without hidden"}, {"start": "00:21:59", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "motive and be surrounded by your answer."}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:09", "text": "Be enveloped by what you desire that"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "your gladness be full.\""}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "That's the piece that was missing. What"}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:15", "text": "are they saying? What is the piece"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:17", "text": "without hidden motive? That's where we"}, {"start": "00:22:15", "end": "00:22:19", "text": "go where we have no ego and no judgment,"}, {"start": "00:22:17", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "no attachment to the rightness or the"}, {"start": "00:22:19", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "wrongness or the outcome. Ask without"}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:28", "text": "hidden motive. Don't ask for"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "to be present. Come from the place it's"}, {"start": "00:22:28", "end": "00:22:33", "text": "already there. Be is not asking. Be"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:34", "text": "means it's already here. Be surrounded"}, {"start": "00:22:33", "end": "00:22:37", "text": "by the things that you're choosing. Be"}, {"start": "00:22:34", "end": "00:22:39", "text": "surrounded by your joy. Be surrounded by"}, {"start": "00:22:37", "end": "00:22:41", "text": "your healing, by the peace that's"}, {"start": "00:22:39", "end": "00:22:43", "text": "already there. Feel the feelings as if"}, {"start": "00:22:41", "end": "00:22:45", "text": "those things have already happened."}, {"start": "00:22:43", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "Be enveloped by what you desire. Now,"}, {"start": "00:22:45", "end": "00:22:50", "text": "what physicists are telling us is this"}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "is the quality of belief that speaks to"}, {"start": "00:22:50", "end": "00:22:53", "text": "that field of energy, to the divine"}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:55", "text": "matrix. You got to give it something to"}, {"start": "00:22:53", "end": "00:22:57", "text": "work with. If it's going to mirror back"}, {"start": "00:22:55", "end": "00:22:58", "text": "to you what you've created in your"}, {"start": "00:22:57", "end": "00:23:01", "text": "heart, you've got to give it something"}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:03", "text": "to mirror back. Where did we learn to"}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:05", "text": "feel only the things that we fear and"}, {"start": "00:23:03", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "what we don't have?"}, {"start": "00:23:05", "end": "00:23:09", "text": "Where did we learn to feel the horror of"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:10", "text": "looking at the checkbook at the end of"}, {"start": "00:23:09", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "the month and seeing no mortgage money"}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:16", "text": "there rather than feeling the abundance"}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "of what we know is true in our lives?"}, {"start": "00:23:16", "end": "00:23:19", "text": "Where did we learn to do that? Where did"}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:19", "text": "we learn to stop trusting"}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:22", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:24", "text": ">> the wisdom of our bodies to heal"}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:26", "text": "and become so frightened that we think"}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:30", "text": "we've got to run to someone else"}, {"start": "00:23:26", "end": "00:23:30", "text": "like a pharmaceutical company"}, {"start": "00:23:31", "end": "00:23:35", "text": "to heal our bodies. Pharmaceutical"}, {"start": "00:23:33", "end": "00:23:36", "text": "companies, they do some good things. I'm"}, {"start": "00:23:35", "end": "00:23:37", "text": "not down on pharmaceutical companies."}, {"start": "00:23:36", "end": "00:23:37", "text": "I'm saying"}, {"start": "00:23:37", "end": "00:23:39", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:23:37", "end": "00:23:42", "text": ">> I think to a large extent they've"}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:43", "text": "encouraged us to come to rely upon them."}, {"start": "00:23:42", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "Remember years ago, you never used to"}, {"start": "00:23:43", "end": "00:23:47", "text": "see commercials for drugs on TV?"}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:49", "text": "Now, it's hard not to. And some of the"}, {"start": "00:23:47", "end": "00:23:50", "text": "drugs, I still don't know what they do."}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:51", "text": "They have the commercials. I don't"}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:53", "text": "really know what they do, but I know the"}, {"start": "00:23:51", "end": "00:23:55", "text": "side effects can be really bad."}, {"start": "00:23:53", "end": "00:23:57", "text": "I think, \"Why in the world would I want"}, {"start": "00:23:55", "end": "00:23:59", "text": "this this whatever this thing is?\""}, {"start": "00:23:57", "end": "00:24:02", "text": "Because, you know, nosebleeds, diarrhea,"}, {"start": "00:23:59", "end": "00:24:02", "text": "vomiting. Other than that,"}, {"start": "00:24:02", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "Yeah, ask your doctor."}, {"start": "00:24:04", "end": "00:24:07", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:09", "text": ">> This is the piece that was lost out of"}, {"start": "00:24:07", "end": "00:24:11", "text": "that text. And if that sounds too"}, {"start": "00:24:09", "end": "00:24:13", "text": "religious, the teacher and philosopher"}, {"start": "00:24:11", "end": "00:24:15", "text": "Neville early in the century said"}, {"start": "00:24:13", "end": "00:24:17", "text": "precisely the same thing. He said, \"You"}, {"start": "00:24:15", "end": "00:24:20", "text": "must make your future dream a present"}, {"start": "00:24:17", "end": "00:24:23", "text": "fact by assuming the feeling of your"}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:24", "text": "wish fulfilled. Assuming the feeling as"}, {"start": "00:24:23", "end": "00:24:26", "text": "if"}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "the [music] outcome has already"}, {"start": "00:24:26", "end": "00:24:30", "text": "happened.\""}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:33", "text": "When you ask for something to happen,"}, {"start": "00:24:30", "end": "00:24:35", "text": "what have you just implied?"}, {"start": "00:24:33", "end": "00:24:36", "text": "Honestly, have you ever thought about"}, {"start": "00:24:35", "end": "00:24:38", "text": "this?"}, {"start": "00:24:36", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "Even well-intentioned, when you say,"}, {"start": "00:24:38", "end": "00:24:42", "text": "\"Dear God, please let there be"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:44", "text": "healing in the bodies of my loved ones"}, {"start": "00:24:42", "end": "00:24:46", "text": "or let there be peace in the world.\""}, {"start": "00:24:44", "end": "00:24:48", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "00:24:46", "end": "00:24:50", "text": "You may actually be supporting the very"}, {"start": "00:24:48", "end": "00:24:53", "text": "thing you'd like to change. Because when"}, {"start": "00:24:50", "end": "00:24:55", "text": "you say, \"Please let it be here,\" you're"}, {"start": "00:24:53", "end": "00:24:57", "text": "telling the field, you're telling that"}, {"start": "00:24:55", "end": "00:24:59", "text": "divine matrix or God, however, whatever"}, {"start": "00:24:57", "end": "00:25:01", "text": "language you like, you're telling that"}, {"start": "00:24:59", "end": "00:25:03", "text": "it's not there now and that's what's"}, {"start": "00:25:01", "end": "00:25:06", "text": "being mirrored back to us."}, {"start": "00:25:03", "end": "00:25:08", "text": "What happens when hundreds of thousands"}, {"start": "00:25:06", "end": "00:25:11", "text": "of people get together and pray for"}, {"start": "00:25:08", "end": "00:25:12", "text": "peace? What do you think happens?"}, {"start": "00:25:11", "end": "00:25:14", "text": "I don't know. I We've done it a number"}, {"start": "00:25:12", "end": "00:25:16", "text": "of times and we see what's happening in"}, {"start": "00:25:14", "end": "00:25:17", "text": "the world now. It might be interesting"}, {"start": "00:25:16", "end": "00:25:19", "text": "to get hundreds of thousands of people"}, {"start": "00:25:17", "end": "00:25:21", "text": "together and feel the feeling as if"}, {"start": "00:25:19", "end": "00:25:24", "text": "peace is already there."}, {"start": "00:25:21", "end": "00:25:27", "text": "It was done during the Lebanese-Israeli"}, {"start": "00:25:24", "end": "00:25:29", "text": "War in the early 1980s. Researchers went"}, {"start": "00:25:27", "end": "00:25:31", "text": "over, were trained to feel the feeling"}, {"start": "00:25:29", "end": "00:25:32", "text": "of peace in their hearts. They were"}, {"start": "00:25:31", "end": "00:25:34", "text": "positioned throughout the war-torn areas"}, {"start": "00:25:32", "end": "00:25:36", "text": "in Lebanon and Israel and during the"}, {"start": "00:25:34", "end": "00:25:38", "text": "windows of time when they were feeling"}, {"start": "00:25:36", "end": "00:25:41", "text": "peace, all that happened was peace. Not"}, {"start": "00:25:38", "end": "00:25:42", "text": "one terrorist activity, no no suicide"}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:45", "text": "bombings were happening in the early"}, {"start": "00:25:42", "end": "00:25:47", "text": "1980s. Emergency hospital room visits"}, {"start": "00:25:45", "end": "00:25:50", "text": "declined, traffic accidents declined,"}, {"start": "00:25:47", "end": "00:25:51", "text": "crimes against people declined while"}, {"start": "00:25:50", "end": "00:25:53", "text": "they were feeling peace."}, {"start": "00:25:51", "end": "00:25:55", "text": "They weren't trying to make the war"}, {"start": "00:25:53", "end": "00:25:57", "text": "stop. They weren't trying to impose"}, {"start": "00:25:55", "end": "00:25:59", "text": "their will upon the world outside of me."}, {"start": "00:25:57", "end": "00:26:01", "text": "They were simply feeling that peace in"}, {"start": "00:25:59", "end": "00:26:03", "text": "their hearts. This became known as the"}, {"start": "00:26:01", "end": "00:26:03", "text": "Maharishi effect."}, {"start": "00:26:03", "end": "00:26:05", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:26:03", "end": "00:26:06", "text": ">> If you've ever studied this or you can"}, {"start": "00:26:05", "end": "00:26:08", "text": "you can Google it and find out. We know"}, {"start": "00:26:06", "end": "00:26:10", "text": "this works. People say, \"Why aren't more"}, {"start": "00:26:08", "end": "00:26:12", "text": "people doing it?\""}, {"start": "00:26:10", "end": "00:26:14", "text": "I think there's so much fear in the"}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:17", "text": "world right now. People have just have"}, {"start": "00:26:14", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "lost the faith and confidence"}, {"start": "00:26:17", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "that we can really do much"}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:20", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:23", "text": ">> to make a difference in what's happening"}, {"start": "00:26:20", "end": "00:26:25", "text": "in the world. The key is to feel from"}, {"start": "00:26:23", "end": "00:26:28", "text": "the outcome"}, {"start": "00:26:25", "end": "00:26:30", "text": "as if it's already happened without"}, {"start": "00:26:28", "end": "00:26:31", "text": "attachment"}, {"start": "00:26:30", "end": "00:26:33", "text": "to the outcome. [music]"}, {"start": "00:26:31", "end": "00:26:34", "text": "Now, this There's a whole workshop right"}, {"start": "00:26:33", "end": "00:26:37", "text": "here."}, {"start": "00:26:34", "end": "00:26:39", "text": "Feeling as if the healing has already"}, {"start": "00:26:37", "end": "00:26:41", "text": "happened without attachment to the"}, {"start": "00:26:39", "end": "00:26:43", "text": "healing. That's hard to do sometimes. If"}, {"start": "00:26:41", "end": "00:26:46", "text": "you're standing in an emergency room ICU"}, {"start": "00:26:43", "end": "00:26:49", "text": "next to your loved one on a gurney"}, {"start": "00:26:46", "end": "00:26:50", "text": "listening to a a little heart machine"}, {"start": "00:26:49", "end": "00:26:53", "text": "tick away their heartbeats and you think"}, {"start": "00:26:50", "end": "00:26:55", "text": "you're going to lose them in 20 minutes,"}, {"start": "00:26:53", "end": "00:26:56", "text": "you've got an attachment to the outcome."}, {"start": "00:26:55", "end": "00:26:58", "text": "You don't want to lose your loved one."}, {"start": "00:26:56", "end": "00:26:59", "text": "I've been in that situation. I'm not"}, {"start": "00:26:58", "end": "00:27:01", "text": "saying this is easy to do. I'm saying"}, {"start": "00:26:59", "end": "00:27:03", "text": "this is what"}, {"start": "00:27:01", "end": "00:27:05", "text": "This is what quantum physicists are"}, {"start": "00:27:03", "end": "00:27:07", "text": "finding with regard to how we work in"}, {"start": "00:27:05", "end": "00:27:09", "text": "the field, rewriting our reality code"}, {"start": "00:27:07", "end": "00:27:11", "text": "and this is precisely the instructions"}, {"start": "00:27:09", "end": "00:27:13", "text": "the ancients left. They said if you"}, {"start": "00:27:11", "end": "00:27:14", "text": "Maybe this is what they mean when they"}, {"start": "00:27:13", "end": "00:27:17", "text": "say turn it over to God. We've got to"}, {"start": "00:27:14", "end": "00:27:20", "text": "let go of our attachment to the outcome."}, {"start": "00:27:17", "end": "00:27:23", "text": "We can still participate [music]"}, {"start": "00:27:20", "end": "00:27:25", "text": "without the attachment to precisely what"}, {"start": "00:27:23", "end": "00:27:27", "text": "that outcome is all about. Let me share"}, {"start": "00:27:25", "end": "00:27:29", "text": "you a story. Some of you have heard this"}, {"start": "00:27:27", "end": "00:27:31", "text": "story. A dear friend of [music] mine"}, {"start": "00:27:29", "end": "00:27:33", "text": "in high deserts of northern New Mexico"}, {"start": "00:27:31", "end": "00:27:35", "text": "where we live in the early 1990s, they"}, {"start": "00:27:33", "end": "00:27:36", "text": "were experiencing one of the worst"}, {"start": "00:27:35", "end": "00:27:38", "text": "droughts in history. His name was David."}, {"start": "00:27:36", "end": "00:27:40", "text": "I'll call him David for"}, {"start": "00:27:38", "end": "00:27:41", "text": "for this program. And David asked me, he"}, {"start": "00:27:40", "end": "00:27:44", "text": "said, \"Greg, would you like to go with"}, {"start": "00:27:41", "end": "00:27:45", "text": "me to pray rain?\""}, {"start": "00:27:44", "end": "00:27:46", "text": "And he didn't have to ask twice. I said,"}, {"start": "00:27:45", "end": "00:27:46", "text": "\"You bet.\""}, {"start": "00:27:46", "end": "00:27:48", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:27:46", "end": "00:27:49", "text": ">> And as an Anglo, I had an expectation of"}, {"start": "00:27:48", "end": "00:27:52", "text": "what I was I thought I was going to see"}, {"start": "00:27:49", "end": "00:27:54", "text": "some chanting, some at least some"}, {"start": "00:27:52", "end": "00:27:56", "text": "dancing, some very cool movement. I"}, {"start": "00:27:54", "end": "00:27:58", "text": "wasn't prepared for what I saw because"}, {"start": "00:27:56", "end": "00:27:59", "text": "what happened was David took off his old"}, {"start": "00:27:58", "end": "00:28:01", "text": "work boots. He stepped into an ancient"}, {"start": "00:27:59", "end": "00:28:04", "text": "stone circle."}, {"start": "00:28:01", "end": "00:28:06", "text": "It had been there for so long,"}, {"start": "00:28:04", "end": "00:28:08", "text": "he didn't even know whose hands had"}, {"start": "00:28:06", "end": "00:28:09", "text": "placed [music] it there originally."}, {"start": "00:28:08", "end": "00:28:11", "text": "He held his hands in a prayer position"}, {"start": "00:28:09", "end": "00:28:13", "text": "like this. He turned his back to me."}, {"start": "00:28:11", "end": "00:28:15", "text": "He honored all of his ancestors. He"}, {"start": "00:28:13", "end": "00:28:17", "text": "literally said the words, \"All of my"}, {"start": "00:28:15", "end": "00:28:17", "text": "ancestors, all of my ancestors"}, {"start": "00:28:17", "end": "00:28:21", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:28:17", "end": "00:28:22", "text": ">> are with me now. Are with me now.\""}, {"start": "00:28:21", "end": "00:28:24", "text": "And then he opened his eyes about 20"}, {"start": "00:28:22", "end": "00:28:25", "text": "seconds later and he looked at me and he"}, {"start": "00:28:24", "end": "00:28:27", "text": "says, \"I'm hungry. Want to go get a bite"}, {"start": "00:28:25", "end": "00:28:29", "text": "to eat?\""}, {"start": "00:28:27", "end": "00:28:30", "text": "And I said,"}, {"start": "00:28:29", "end": "00:28:31", "text": "\"Sure.\" But I said, \"I thought you were"}, {"start": "00:28:30", "end": "00:28:32", "text": "going to you were going to pray for"}, {"start": "00:28:31", "end": "00:28:36", "text": "rain.\" And he looked at me and he said,"}, {"start": "00:28:32", "end": "00:28:39", "text": "\"No.\" He said, \"If I prayed for rain,"}, {"start": "00:28:36", "end": "00:28:42", "text": "rain could never happen."}, {"start": "00:28:39", "end": "00:28:45", "text": "Because the moment I pray for the rain"}, {"start": "00:28:42", "end": "00:28:48", "text": "to happen, I am just empowering the fact"}, {"start": "00:28:45", "end": "00:28:49", "text": "that it is not here now.\" [music]"}, {"start": "00:28:48", "end": "00:28:51", "text": "And I said, \"What did you do when you"}, {"start": "00:28:49", "end": "00:28:54", "text": "closed your eyes?\""}, {"start": "00:28:51", "end": "00:28:56", "text": "And he said, \"I felt the feeling"}, {"start": "00:28:54", "end": "00:28:58", "text": "of what it feels like to stand with my"}, {"start": "00:28:56", "end": "00:29:01", "text": "naked [music] feet in the mud"}, {"start": "00:28:58", "end": "00:29:04", "text": "in our Pueblo village in the muds there"}, {"start": "00:29:01", "end": "00:29:06", "text": "because there's been so much rain.\""}, {"start": "00:29:04", "end": "00:29:08", "text": "And he said, \"I smelled the smells of"}, {"start": "00:29:06", "end": "00:29:10", "text": "what it smells like when the rainwater"}, {"start": "00:29:08", "end": "00:29:12", "text": "rolls off the earthen walls of our"}, {"start": "00:29:10", "end": "00:29:14", "text": "Pueblo village."}, {"start": "00:29:12", "end": "00:29:16", "text": "And I felt the feeling of what it feels"}, {"start": "00:29:14", "end": "00:29:20", "text": "like to run with my naked [music] chest"}, {"start": "00:29:16", "end": "00:29:22", "text": "through high stands of corn rubbing"}, {"start": "00:29:20", "end": "00:29:24", "text": "against my skin. That The corn's so high"}, {"start": "00:29:22", "end": "00:29:25", "text": "because there's been so much rain.\" And"}, {"start": "00:29:24", "end": "00:29:28", "text": "he said, \"I gave thanks of gratitude and"}, {"start": "00:29:25", "end": "00:29:31", "text": "appreciation for the rain that already"}, {"start": "00:29:28", "end": "00:29:31", "text": "exists.\""}, {"start": "00:29:31", "end": "00:29:34", "text": "Can you see the subtle"}, {"start": "00:29:32", "end": "00:29:37", "text": "but powerful difference? It's a subtle"}, {"start": "00:29:34", "end": "00:29:40", "text": "shift in thinking [music] and feeling."}, {"start": "00:29:37", "end": "00:29:42", "text": "He knew that that rain would happen and"}, {"start": "00:29:40", "end": "00:29:44", "text": "it did. By the time we got back up onto"}, {"start": "00:29:42", "end": "00:29:46", "text": "our property that afternoon, a big black"}, {"start": "00:29:44", "end": "00:29:48", "text": "cloud appeared and there's that hadn't"}, {"start": "00:29:46", "end": "00:29:50", "text": "happened"}, {"start": "00:29:48", "end": "00:29:52", "text": "all summer long. This is August of '90."}, {"start": "00:29:50", "end": "00:29:53", "text": "It started to rain that afternoon. It"}, {"start": "00:29:52", "end": "00:29:55", "text": "rained all the rest of the afternoon,"}, {"start": "00:29:53", "end": "00:29:56", "text": "into the evening, into the wee hours of"}, {"start": "00:29:55", "end": "00:29:58", "text": "the next morning. It rained all the next"}, {"start": "00:29:56", "end": "00:30:00", "text": "morning. By early afternoon, there was"}, {"start": "00:29:58", "end": "00:30:01", "text": "so much rain, the fields were flooded,"}, {"start": "00:30:00", "end": "00:30:03", "text": "cattle were stranded, roads were washed"}, {"start": "00:30:01", "end": "00:30:05", "text": "out. And I called David on the phone,"}, {"start": "00:30:03", "end": "00:30:07", "text": "and I said, \"Man, this is a mess.\" I"}, {"start": "00:30:05", "end": "00:30:08", "text": "said, \"What in the world is going on?\""}, {"start": "00:30:07", "end": "00:30:10", "text": "And he was quiet just for a minute, and"}, {"start": "00:30:08", "end": "00:30:12", "text": "he said,"}, {"start": "00:30:10", "end": "00:30:16", "text": "\"That's the part of the prayer that the"}, {"start": "00:30:12", "end": "00:30:17", "text": "elders could never really figure out.\""}, {"start": "00:30:16", "end": "00:30:19", "text": "And I"}, {"start": "00:30:17", "end": "00:30:19", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:30:21", "end": "00:30:26", "text": ">> It's like they could get it started, but"}, {"start": "00:30:22", "end": "00:30:26", "text": "they really couldn't regulate it."}, {"start": "00:30:26", "end": "00:30:30", "text": "I can't prove scientifically that the"}, {"start": "00:30:28", "end": "00:30:31", "text": "rain had anything to do with that"}, {"start": "00:30:30", "end": "00:30:34", "text": "prayer. I can't prove scientifically"}, {"start": "00:30:31", "end": "00:30:35", "text": "that the the miraculous healings have"}, {"start": "00:30:34", "end": "00:30:37", "text": "anything to do with the feeling that"}, {"start": "00:30:35", "end": "00:30:40", "text": "people were feeling inside their bodies,"}, {"start": "00:30:37", "end": "00:30:42", "text": "except the correlations are high between"}, {"start": "00:30:40", "end": "00:30:45", "text": "when those things happen."}, {"start": "00:30:42", "end": "00:30:48", "text": "Over the last uh since 1986, I have"}, {"start": "00:30:45", "end": "00:30:50", "text": "spent a tremendous amount of of my life"}, {"start": "00:30:48", "end": "00:30:53", "text": "researching the beliefs of cultures"}, {"start": "00:30:50", "end": "00:30:55", "text": "other than our Western culture."}, {"start": "00:30:53", "end": "00:30:58", "text": "Cuz as I mentioned earlier, 1,700 years"}, {"start": "00:30:55", "end": "00:31:00", "text": "ago, the language that tells us"}, {"start": "00:30:58", "end": "00:31:02", "text": "precisely what I'm sharing with you now,"}, {"start": "00:31:00", "end": "00:31:04", "text": "it was edited right out of our text. We"}, {"start": "00:31:02", "end": "00:31:06", "text": "lost 42 books"}, {"start": "00:31:04", "end": "00:31:09", "text": "out of the Bible that would eventually"}, {"start": "00:31:06", "end": "00:31:10", "text": "become our Western canonized Christian"}, {"start": "00:31:09", "end": "00:31:12", "text": "Bible."}, {"start": "00:31:10", "end": "00:31:13", "text": "And some of those books that were left"}, {"start": "00:31:12", "end": "00:31:15", "text": "behind"}, {"start": "00:31:13", "end": "00:31:17", "text": "were condensed. We essentially have the"}, {"start": "00:31:15", "end": "00:31:18", "text": "Reader's Digest condensed version."}, {"start": "00:31:17", "end": "00:31:21", "text": "And now what was lost in the"}, {"start": "00:31:18", "end": "00:31:22", "text": "translation? In our culture, it didn't"}, {"start": "00:31:21", "end": "00:31:25", "text": "happen in our other cultures. My"}, {"start": "00:31:22", "end": "00:31:28", "text": "thinking was, in cultures that have been"}, {"start": "00:31:25", "end": "00:31:30", "text": "least disturbed by Western civilization,"}, {"start": "00:31:28", "end": "00:31:33", "text": "that's where we might find the essence"}, {"start": "00:31:30", "end": "00:31:35", "text": "of how we apply these principles in our"}, {"start": "00:31:33", "end": "00:31:37", "text": "lives. There's a lot of wisdom held in"}, {"start": "00:31:35", "end": "00:31:39", "text": "this part of the world. It was in this"}, {"start": "00:31:37", "end": "00:31:41", "text": "monastery where this little monk"}, {"start": "00:31:39", "end": "00:31:43", "text": "rode his bicycle 30 miles in one"}, {"start": "00:31:41", "end": "00:31:46", "text": "direction to get some keys while we"}, {"start": "00:31:43", "end": "00:31:48", "text": "waited, and 30 miles back because I"}, {"start": "00:31:46", "end": "00:31:50", "text": "said, \"You have a secret library.\" And"}, {"start": "00:31:48", "end": "00:31:52", "text": "he said, \"Yes."}, {"start": "00:31:50", "end": "00:31:54", "text": "Wait right here.\" Because it's about"}, {"start": "00:31:52", "end": "00:31:56", "text": "time means nothing. So that he could"}, {"start": "00:31:54", "end": "00:32:00", "text": "take us into this monastery and into"}, {"start": "00:31:56", "end": "00:32:02", "text": "this library, this three-story tall,"}, {"start": "00:32:00", "end": "00:32:05", "text": "12-ft wide libraries put there 1,500"}, {"start": "00:32:02", "end": "00:32:07", "text": "years ago that encapsulates all the"}, {"start": "00:32:05", "end": "00:32:09", "text": "books of the Bible are in here. Because"}, {"start": "00:32:07", "end": "00:32:11", "text": "the Dead Sea Scroll material was was"}, {"start": "00:32:09", "end": "00:32:13", "text": "transferred into these monasteries in"}, {"start": "00:32:11", "end": "00:32:15", "text": "the 1st century after the crucifixion."}, {"start": "00:32:13", "end": "00:32:16", "text": "[music] So if we'd never found the Dead"}, {"start": "00:32:15", "end": "00:32:17", "text": "Sea Scrolls, we would have found them"}, {"start": "00:32:16", "end": "00:32:20", "text": "here in in these libraries anyway."}, {"start": "00:32:17", "end": "00:32:23", "text": "Beautiful books. Well, it was in another"}, {"start": "00:32:20", "end": "00:32:24", "text": "part of this monastery that we had the"}, {"start": "00:32:23", "end": "00:32:25", "text": "opportunity to meet [music] with these"}, {"start": "00:32:24", "end": "00:32:28", "text": "men."}, {"start": "00:32:25", "end": "00:32:29", "text": "And they were guarding another room."}, {"start": "00:32:28", "end": "00:32:31", "text": "Yeah, I asked about this room. I knew"}, {"start": "00:32:29", "end": "00:32:32", "text": "there was a mural here."}, {"start": "00:32:31", "end": "00:32:34", "text": "I said, \"Can we see this mural?\" And"}, {"start": "00:32:32", "end": "00:32:37", "text": "they said, \"No, it's not possible.\""}, {"start": "00:32:34", "end": "00:32:38", "text": "There's a form of begging in Tibet when"}, {"start": "00:32:37", "end": "00:32:40", "text": "you really want something. It's not It's"}, {"start": "00:32:38", "end": "00:32:42", "text": "not a pretty sight, but it's done in all"}, {"start": "00:32:40", "end": "00:32:43", "text": "sincerity. What you do is you bow your"}, {"start": "00:32:42", "end": "00:32:45", "text": "head. You don't even look at the person."}, {"start": "00:32:43", "end": "00:32:48", "text": "You hold your thumbs up like this, and"}, {"start": "00:32:45", "end": "00:32:49", "text": "you say the words \"Gucci Gucci Gucci.\""}, {"start": "00:32:48", "end": "00:32:50", "text": "So you go Gucci Gucci Gucci Gucci Gucci"}, {"start": "00:32:49", "end": "00:32:52", "text": "Gucci."}, {"start": "00:32:50", "end": "00:32:55", "text": "And you get a roomful of 40 people"}, {"start": "00:32:52", "end": "00:32:56", "text": "asking the monks Gucci Gucci Gucci Gucci"}, {"start": "00:32:55", "end": "00:32:58", "text": "Gucci if we can do this, and he knows"}, {"start": "00:32:56", "end": "00:33:00", "text": "we're sincere because we've come halfway"}, {"start": "00:32:58", "end": "00:33:02", "text": "around the world, 17,000 ft above sea"}, {"start": "00:33:00", "end": "00:33:04", "text": "level. We may never be there again. And"}, {"start": "00:33:02", "end": "00:33:06", "text": "they said, \"Okay.\""}, {"start": "00:33:04", "end": "00:33:08", "text": "So they took us down to this room. Can"}, {"start": "00:33:06", "end": "00:33:11", "text": "you see this wire running across the"}, {"start": "00:33:08", "end": "00:33:12", "text": "top? That is the wire that holds this"}, {"start": "00:33:11", "end": "00:33:14", "text": "curtain"}, {"start": "00:33:12", "end": "00:33:15", "text": "that covers this wall"}, {"start": "00:33:14", "end": "00:33:17", "text": "so that no one can see what's behind"}, {"start": "00:33:15", "end": "00:33:18", "text": "here."}, {"start": "00:33:17", "end": "00:33:20", "text": "And so they pulled it back just for a"}, {"start": "00:33:18", "end": "00:33:21", "text": "moment, let us take a picture, and then"}, {"start": "00:33:20", "end": "00:33:23", "text": "he says, \"I have to cover it again, but"}, {"start": "00:33:21", "end": "00:33:26", "text": "I want to share with you what's here"}, {"start": "00:33:23", "end": "00:33:28", "text": "because it is very non-Tibetan like."}, {"start": "00:33:26", "end": "00:33:31", "text": "This is what's behind that wall."}, {"start": "00:33:28", "end": "00:33:33", "text": "It almost looks like a Christian icon of"}, {"start": "00:33:31", "end": "00:33:35", "text": "Buddha with a halo around Buddha. What's"}, {"start": "00:33:33", "end": "00:33:37", "text": "so powerful, this is part of a teaching"}, {"start": "00:33:35", "end": "00:33:39", "text": "that's on this whole wall. He is"}, {"start": "00:33:37", "end": "00:33:42", "text": "teaching people of every color. There"}, {"start": "00:33:39", "end": "00:33:44", "text": "are black and brown and red and yellow"}, {"start": "00:33:42", "end": "00:33:45", "text": "and even some blue people, which is"}, {"start": "00:33:44", "end": "00:33:47", "text": "interesting because of the blue people"}, {"start": "00:33:45", "end": "00:33:49", "text": "you see in the Hindu tradition on the"}, {"start": "00:33:47", "end": "00:33:49", "text": "walls in in India in the Hindu"}, {"start": "00:33:49", "end": "00:33:51", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:33:49", "end": "00:33:53", "text": ">> temples. All different walks of life,"}, {"start": "00:33:51", "end": "00:33:56", "text": "all traditions, every one of them has a"}, {"start": "00:33:53", "end": "00:33:58", "text": "halo, has the pranic aura just like"}, {"start": "00:33:56", "end": "00:34:00", "text": "Buddha. And this is what our little monk"}, {"start": "00:33:58", "end": "00:34:03", "text": "said. \"This is the teacher.\" He said,"}, {"start": "00:34:00", "end": "00:34:05", "text": "\"But the true teacher never holds back"}, {"start": "00:34:03", "end": "00:34:07", "text": "what he's teaching. He will share it, so"}, {"start": "00:34:05", "end": "00:34:09", "text": "you never need your teacher again. Your"}, {"start": "00:34:07", "end": "00:34:12", "text": "teacher turns you loose in the world."}, {"start": "00:34:09", "end": "00:34:13", "text": "He's said what he has to say, and you"}, {"start": "00:34:12", "end": "00:34:15", "text": "are now free to live that. You don't"}, {"start": "00:34:13", "end": "00:34:18", "text": "have to come back to a true teacher"}, {"start": "00:34:15", "end": "00:34:20", "text": "again and again and again.\" And he said,"}, {"start": "00:34:18", "end": "00:34:21", "text": "\"Everyone that Buddha was teaching"}, {"start": "00:34:20", "end": "00:34:23", "text": "learned to do what Buddha did.\" And he"}, {"start": "00:34:21", "end": "00:34:25", "text": "said, \"Here, I'll show you.\""}, {"start": "00:34:23", "end": "00:34:26", "text": "And I said, \"So what is it that they"}, {"start": "00:34:25", "end": "00:34:28", "text": "were teaching?\""}, {"start": "00:34:26", "end": "00:34:29", "text": "Well, what they're teaching is precisely"}, {"start": "00:34:28", "end": "00:34:32", "text": "what we're talking about now, how to"}, {"start": "00:34:29", "end": "00:34:36", "text": "communicate with this field through the"}, {"start": "00:34:32", "end": "00:34:38", "text": "power of feeling and emotion and belief."}, {"start": "00:34:36", "end": "00:34:39", "text": "They're saying that belief in feeling,"}, {"start": "00:34:38", "end": "00:34:41", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "00:34:39", "end": "00:34:42", "text": "we believe something, we have a feeling"}, {"start": "00:34:41", "end": "00:34:44", "text": "about what we believe. That feeling is"}, {"start": "00:34:42", "end": "00:34:46", "text": "based in our hearts."}, {"start": "00:34:44", "end": "00:34:49", "text": "Feeling is [music] important, but not"}, {"start": "00:34:46", "end": "00:34:52", "text": "just any old feeling will do. There's a"}, {"start": "00:34:49", "end": "00:34:54", "text": "quality of feeling in our hearts that"}, {"start": "00:34:52", "end": "00:34:57", "text": "heals and creates in our world very"}, {"start": "00:34:54", "end": "00:34:59", "text": "precisely, very specifically."}, {"start": "00:34:57", "end": "00:35:02", "text": "And it's that quality [music] of feeling"}, {"start": "00:34:59", "end": "00:35:04", "text": "that Amit Goswami, he said, \"We create"}, {"start": "00:35:02", "end": "00:35:06", "text": "our own reality. We do.\" he said, \"But"}, {"start": "00:35:04", "end": "00:35:08", "text": "there's a subtlety in the consciousness"}, {"start": "00:35:06", "end": "00:35:12", "text": "that creates it.\" He said, \"We do not"}, {"start": "00:35:08", "end": "00:35:14", "text": "create reality in our ordinary state"}, {"start": "00:35:12", "end": "00:35:16", "text": "like we are right now,"}, {"start": "00:35:14", "end": "00:35:18", "text": "specifically, but in what he calls a"}, {"start": "00:35:16", "end": "00:35:21", "text": "non-ordinary state of consciousness that"}, {"start": "00:35:18", "end": "00:35:24", "text": "tells us, this is a clue as to what that"}, {"start": "00:35:21", "end": "00:35:27", "text": "state is.\" Rumi says, \"Out beyond the"}, {"start": "00:35:24", "end": "00:35:28", "text": "ideas of right doing and wrong doing,\""}, {"start": "00:35:27", "end": "00:35:30", "text": "he said, \"there's a field.\" [music] He"}, {"start": "00:35:28", "end": "00:35:32", "text": "actually calls the field. He says, \"I'll"}, {"start": "00:35:30", "end": "00:35:34", "text": "meet you there.\" He said, \"There's a"}, {"start": "00:35:32", "end": "00:35:36", "text": "place where right and wrong don't exist."}, {"start": "00:35:34", "end": "00:35:38", "text": "That's where the action is.\""}, {"start": "00:35:36", "end": "00:35:40", "text": "What I believe has happened is that here"}, {"start": "00:35:38", "end": "00:35:43", "text": "we are in this this paradigm. We have"}, {"start": "00:35:40", "end": "00:35:46", "text": "had such a tremendous acceleration of"}, {"start": "00:35:43", "end": "00:35:50", "text": "technology out here."}, {"start": "00:35:46", "end": "00:35:53", "text": "We now witness the moment of conception"}, {"start": "00:35:50", "end": "00:35:57", "text": "live in a human womb. Not a still"}, {"start": "00:35:53", "end": "00:36:00", "text": "photograph, we witness it live."}, {"start": "00:35:57", "end": "00:36:02", "text": "We have witnessed DNA passing between a"}, {"start": "00:36:00", "end": "00:36:05", "text": "sperm [music] and an egg."}, {"start": "00:36:02", "end": "00:36:07", "text": "We have peered into the depths"}, {"start": "00:36:05", "end": "00:36:09", "text": "of the quantum world of the atom. And"}, {"start": "00:36:07", "end": "00:36:12", "text": "we've sent these extensions of our"}, {"start": "00:36:09", "end": "00:36:14", "text": "perceptions deep [music] into"}, {"start": "00:36:12", "end": "00:36:16", "text": "interstellar space beyond the boundaries"}, {"start": "00:36:14", "end": "00:36:18", "text": "of our solar system"}, {"start": "00:36:16", "end": "00:36:21", "text": "on the one hand, and on the other hand,"}, {"start": "00:36:18", "end": "00:36:23", "text": "we're still trying to reconcile what"}, {"start": "00:36:21", "end": "00:36:25", "text": "happens in our world in terms of forces"}, {"start": "00:36:23", "end": "00:36:27", "text": "and dark and light,"}, {"start": "00:36:25", "end": "00:36:30", "text": "good [music] and bad,"}, {"start": "00:36:27", "end": "00:36:30", "text": "devils and angels."}, {"start": "00:36:30", "end": "00:36:35", "text": "I believe that path has served us very"}, {"start": "00:36:33", "end": "00:36:38", "text": "well. I bless that path."}, {"start": "00:36:35", "end": "00:36:41", "text": "And I believe that very rapidly you've"}, {"start": "00:36:38", "end": "00:36:43", "text": "outgrown that path."}, {"start": "00:36:41", "end": "00:36:44", "text": "And now,"}, {"start": "00:36:43", "end": "00:36:46", "text": "because that path has served you [music]"}, {"start": "00:36:44", "end": "00:36:48", "text": "so well, it's brought you to the point."}, {"start": "00:36:46", "end": "00:36:50", "text": "All of us, we're all in this together."}, {"start": "00:36:48", "end": "00:36:53", "text": "It's brought us to this point where we"}, {"start": "00:36:50", "end": "00:36:55", "text": "may redefine now what the events of our"}, {"start": "00:36:53", "end": "00:36:57", "text": "life mean. When we witness you turn on"}, {"start": "00:36:55", "end": "00:36:59", "text": "the 6:00 news, and you see something"}, {"start": "00:36:57", "end": "00:37:01", "text": "that has hurt you,"}, {"start": "00:36:59", "end": "00:37:03", "text": "what do you do with that? How do you"}, {"start": "00:37:01", "end": "00:37:05", "text": "reconcile that? You say, \"If all the"}, {"start": "00:37:03", "end": "00:37:07", "text": "tears love, and I'm witnessing 10,000"}, {"start": "00:37:05", "end": "00:37:11", "text": "Rwandans massacred laying dead on the"}, {"start": "00:37:07", "end": "00:37:12", "text": "side of the road by their own people,"}, {"start": "00:37:11", "end": "00:37:13", "text": "how do I reconcile that? What does that"}, {"start": "00:37:12", "end": "00:37:14", "text": "mean?\""}, {"start": "00:37:13", "end": "00:37:17", "text": "Or typically what you'll hear is, \"How"}, {"start": "00:37:14", "end": "00:37:17", "text": "can God let that happen?\""}, {"start": "00:37:19", "end": "00:37:22", "text": "Well, if we allow for the possibility"}, {"start": "00:37:21", "end": "00:37:25", "text": "that there's a single source of all that"}, {"start": "00:37:22", "end": "00:37:27", "text": "is in this world,"}, {"start": "00:37:25", "end": "00:37:30", "text": "then you have just opened the door and"}, {"start": "00:37:27", "end": "00:37:32", "text": "paved the path. You're allowing for a"}, {"start": "00:37:30", "end": "00:37:33", "text": "much greater possibility that the"}, {"start": "00:37:32", "end": "00:37:36", "text": "ancients called the science [music] of"}, {"start": "00:37:33", "end": "00:37:38", "text": "compassion. Until we can reconcile those"}, {"start": "00:37:36", "end": "00:37:40", "text": "two forces, compassion may not make a"}, {"start": "00:37:38", "end": "00:37:41", "text": "lot of sense. You look at your screen"}, {"start": "00:37:40", "end": "00:37:43", "text": "right now, and I'm going to talk about"}, {"start": "00:37:41", "end": "00:37:44", "text": "brain states just for a moment. [music]"}, {"start": "00:37:43", "end": "00:37:46", "text": "What you're seeing on your screen are"}, {"start": "00:37:44", "end": "00:37:47", "text": "the traditional brain states. At the"}, {"start": "00:37:46", "end": "00:37:50", "text": "very bottom of the screen, the delta"}, {"start": "00:37:47", "end": "00:37:52", "text": "waves, long, slow waves. And And these"}, {"start": "00:37:50", "end": "00:37:53", "text": "[music] are when we're deeply asleep."}, {"start": "00:37:52", "end": "00:37:55", "text": "And then the theta waves, when we become"}, {"start": "00:37:53", "end": "00:37:56", "text": "drowsy."}, {"start": "00:37:55", "end": "00:38:00", "text": "Uh the alpha waves, where we're more"}, {"start": "00:37:56", "end": "00:38:01", "text": "relaxed and um maybe in meditation. The"}, {"start": "00:38:00", "end": "00:38:03", "text": "beta waves, this is where maybe you are"}, {"start": "00:38:01", "end": "00:38:05", "text": "right [music] now, when we're busily"}, {"start": "00:38:03", "end": "00:38:07", "text": "engaged in daily activities. This used"}, {"start": "00:38:05", "end": "00:38:09", "text": "to be the end of the brain states, but"}, {"start": "00:38:07", "end": "00:38:10", "text": "[music] there is another brain state"}, {"start": "00:38:09", "end": "00:38:13", "text": "that scientists are working with now,"}, {"start": "00:38:10", "end": "00:38:16", "text": "and it is above the beta wave. It is"}, {"start": "00:38:13", "end": "00:38:18", "text": "called gamma. This is the gamma state."}, {"start": "00:38:16", "end": "00:38:21", "text": "[music] And look at how much faster and"}, {"start": "00:38:18", "end": "00:38:22", "text": "how much more compressed these brain"}, {"start": "00:38:21", "end": "00:38:24", "text": "waves are."}, {"start": "00:38:22", "end": "00:38:26", "text": "Well, interestingly, these are the brain"}, {"start": "00:38:24", "end": "00:38:29", "text": "waves that [music] the Tibetan monks"}, {"start": "00:38:26", "end": "00:38:30", "text": "were creating in their bodies intensely"}, {"start": "00:38:29", "end": "00:38:33", "text": "on the mat"}, {"start": "00:38:30", "end": "00:38:37", "text": "to accomplish the amazing feats of"}, {"start": "00:38:33", "end": "00:38:38", "text": "healing, of awareness, of intuition."}, {"start": "00:38:37", "end": "00:38:40", "text": "They're able to regulate [music] their"}, {"start": "00:38:38", "end": "00:38:43", "text": "body functions, their body temperatures,"}, {"start": "00:38:40", "end": "00:38:44", "text": "their immune response, their anti-aging"}, {"start": "00:38:43", "end": "00:38:47", "text": "hormones,"}, {"start": "00:38:44", "end": "00:38:48", "text": "all on demand, when they choose. This is"}, {"start": "00:38:47", "end": "00:38:48", "text": "where"}, {"start": "00:38:48", "end": "00:38:51", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:38:48", "end": "00:38:52", "text": ">> they find their power by realizing this"}, {"start": "00:38:51", "end": "00:38:54", "text": "potential."}, {"start": "00:38:52", "end": "00:38:56", "text": "So I'm sharing this with you now [music]"}, {"start": "00:38:54", "end": "00:38:59", "text": "because, interestingly and perhaps not"}, {"start": "00:38:56", "end": "00:39:02", "text": "surprisingly, it is by harmonizing the"}, {"start": "00:38:59", "end": "00:39:04", "text": "heart and the brain that we achieve this"}, {"start": "00:39:02", "end": "00:39:05", "text": "gamma state, or one of the ways that"}, {"start": "00:39:04", "end": "00:39:09", "text": "[music] we can achieve it. That we"}, {"start": "00:39:05", "end": "00:39:12", "text": "achieve this gamma state intentionally."}, {"start": "00:39:09", "end": "00:39:14", "text": "And when we create the gamma state,"}, {"start": "00:39:12", "end": "00:39:16", "text": "one of the first things that scientists"}, {"start": "00:39:14", "end": "00:39:18", "text": "say to us is it opens the door to"}, {"start": "00:39:16", "end": "00:39:20", "text": "precisely what we've been talking about,"}, {"start": "00:39:18", "end": "00:39:22", "text": "to states of deep intuition."}, {"start": "00:39:20", "end": "00:39:25", "text": "Uh it opens the door to increased focus,"}, {"start": "00:39:22", "end": "00:39:27", "text": "where we can recall everything about any"}, {"start": "00:39:25", "end": "00:39:30", "text": "memorable event. This sounds like some"}, {"start": "00:39:27", "end": "00:39:32", "text": "of the very popular television programs"}, {"start": "00:39:30", "end": "00:39:34", "text": "where individuals are trained to become"}, {"start": "00:39:32", "end": "00:39:36", "text": "superhumans, and they walk into a room,"}, {"start": "00:39:34", "end": "00:39:40", "text": "and boom, they know everything about"}, {"start": "00:39:36", "end": "00:39:42", "text": "everyone in that room, total recall."}, {"start": "00:39:40", "end": "00:39:44", "text": "The gamma state is what allows us very"}, {"start": "00:39:42", "end": "00:39:46", "text": "fast processing [music]"}, {"start": "00:39:44", "end": "00:39:47", "text": "uh storage and information and"}, {"start": "00:39:46", "end": "00:39:49", "text": "retrieval."}, {"start": "00:39:47", "end": "00:39:51", "text": "And it actually makes a lot of sense"}, {"start": "00:39:49", "end": "00:39:53", "text": "that we [music] would be able to do"}, {"start": "00:39:51", "end": "00:39:55", "text": "that. When you think about fast"}, {"start": "00:39:53", "end": "00:39:57", "text": "information retrieval and involving the"}, {"start": "00:39:55", "end": "00:39:58", "text": "heart, if you really think about it,"}, {"start": "00:39:57", "end": "00:40:00", "text": "this [music] makes tremendous sense for"}, {"start": "00:39:58", "end": "00:40:03", "text": "this reason."}, {"start": "00:40:00", "end": "00:40:04", "text": "When we process information solely in"}, {"start": "00:40:03", "end": "00:40:07", "text": "the brain,"}, {"start": "00:40:04", "end": "00:40:08", "text": "when you ask your brain a question,"}, {"start": "00:40:07", "end": "00:40:10", "text": "the answers generally are a little"}, {"start": "00:40:08", "end": "00:40:11", "text": "slower. As I mentioned before, in the"}, {"start": "00:40:10", "end": "00:40:14", "text": "heart, they're boom, almost"}, {"start": "00:40:11", "end": "00:40:16", "text": "instantaneously. Often, we answer ask"}, {"start": "00:40:14", "end": "00:40:18", "text": "our heart a question, it answers before"}, {"start": "00:40:16", "end": "00:40:20", "text": "we finish asking the [music] question."}, {"start": "00:40:18", "end": "00:40:23", "text": "And the reason makes a lot of sense."}, {"start": "00:40:20", "end": "00:40:25", "text": "It's because the brain,"}, {"start": "00:40:23", "end": "00:40:29", "text": "before it gives us the answer, goes"}, {"start": "00:40:25", "end": "00:40:31", "text": "through all of the loops of the logic,"}, {"start": "00:40:29", "end": "00:40:35", "text": "the fears,"}, {"start": "00:40:31", "end": "00:40:37", "text": "the issues of"}, {"start": "00:40:35", "end": "00:40:40", "text": "that have come up in the past, the"}, {"start": "00:40:37", "end": "00:40:43", "text": "issues of self-doubt, the issues of"}, {"start": "00:40:40", "end": "00:40:45", "text": "self-esteem, all of those things. Those"}, {"start": "00:40:43", "end": "00:40:47", "text": "are the logic loops the brain goes"}, {"start": "00:40:45", "end": "00:40:49", "text": "through, the filters, before it gives us"}, {"start": "00:40:47", "end": "00:40:51", "text": "an answer. Heart doesn't do that. Heart,"}, {"start": "00:40:49", "end": "00:40:52", "text": "you ask a heart a question, boom, it"}, {"start": "00:40:51", "end": "00:40:55", "text": "gives you the answer."}, {"start": "00:40:52", "end": "00:40:58", "text": "Part of my heritage"}, {"start": "00:40:55", "end": "00:40:59", "text": "is Native American, is Cherokee."}, {"start": "00:40:58", "end": "00:41:01", "text": "And in the Cherokee tradition, [music]"}, {"start": "00:40:59", "end": "00:41:04", "text": "as well as in some others in the Midwest"}, {"start": "00:41:01", "end": "00:41:06", "text": "of the United States,"}, {"start": "00:41:04", "end": "00:41:08", "text": "our indigenous ancestors knew of this"}, {"start": "00:41:06", "end": "00:41:10", "text": "power of the heart, and they actually"}, {"start": "00:41:08", "end": "00:41:12", "text": "gave it a name."}, {"start": "00:41:10", "end": "00:41:15", "text": "This is one of the things there is no"}, {"start": "00:41:12", "end": "00:41:18", "text": "English translation specifically for"}, {"start": "00:41:15", "end": "00:41:21", "text": "this name. There is no single English"}, {"start": "00:41:18", "end": "00:41:23", "text": "word that means precisely what the"}, {"start": "00:41:21", "end": "00:41:26", "text": "native words [music] mean. So, we have"}, {"start": "00:41:23", "end": "00:41:27", "text": "to create English words around it. Like"}, {"start": "00:41:26", "end": "00:41:30", "text": "prana. When we say the word [music]"}, {"start": "00:41:27", "end": "00:41:33", "text": "prana, that is a Sanskrit word, there is"}, {"start": "00:41:30", "end": "00:41:35", "text": "no English word that means prana. So, we"}, {"start": "00:41:33", "end": "00:41:38", "text": "have to create some other words. We say"}, {"start": "00:41:35", "end": "00:41:41", "text": "energy body or life force to approximate"}, {"start": "00:41:38", "end": "00:41:43", "text": "what it means. Well, same things happen"}, {"start": "00:41:41", "end": "00:41:45", "text": "with the wisdom of the heart."}, {"start": "00:41:43", "end": "00:41:50", "text": "And the the word that's used is called"}, {"start": "00:41:45", "end": "00:41:52", "text": "Shanti Ishta. Shanti Ishta. And it means"}, {"start": "00:41:50", "end": "00:41:55", "text": "the single eye of the heart."}, {"start": "00:41:52", "end": "00:41:59", "text": "The heart that doesn't judge right,"}, {"start": "00:41:55", "end": "00:42:00", "text": "wrong, good, bad. The heart can discern"}, {"start": "00:41:59", "end": "00:42:01", "text": "what's true for us and what's not."}, {"start": "00:42:00", "end": "00:42:04", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "00:42:01", "end": "00:42:06", "text": "Yet, it does not assign a judgment."}, {"start": "00:42:04", "end": "00:42:06", "text": "That's a powerful distinction,"}, {"start": "00:42:06", "end": "00:42:08", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:42:06", "end": "00:42:10", "text": ">> and that will empower you in situations"}, {"start": "00:42:08", "end": "00:42:13", "text": "whether you're in the boardroom or the"}, {"start": "00:42:10", "end": "00:42:16", "text": "classroom or you're with your friends or"}, {"start": "00:42:13", "end": "00:42:17", "text": "in the most intimate relationships with"}, {"start": "00:42:16", "end": "00:42:20", "text": "those that are closest to you, where you"}, {"start": "00:42:17", "end": "00:42:23", "text": "tap, and they know you well enough to"}, {"start": "00:42:20", "end": "00:42:25", "text": "tap the buttons and the triggers that"}, {"start": "00:42:23", "end": "00:42:28", "text": "elicit responses that sometimes you wish"}, {"start": "00:42:25", "end": "00:42:30", "text": "you hadn't have said. 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And it will do it"}, {"start": "00:42:37", "end": "00:42:42", "text": "with discernment."}, {"start": "00:42:39", "end": "00:42:43", "text": "I'm going to share with you precisely"}, {"start": "00:42:42", "end": "00:42:45", "text": "what it is that's happening."}, {"start": "00:42:43", "end": "00:42:46", "text": "Because it's all about the neurons, and"}, {"start": "00:42:45", "end": "00:42:48", "text": "then I'd like for us to have the"}, {"start": "00:42:46", "end": "00:42:50", "text": "opportunity to experience [music]"}, {"start": "00:42:48", "end": "00:42:52", "text": "this heart-brain harmony together in"}, {"start": "00:42:50", "end": "00:42:55", "text": "this episode. So, everything that we're"}, {"start": "00:42:52", "end": "00:42:57", "text": "talking about, it's all about neurons."}, {"start": "00:42:55", "end": "00:43:00", "text": "Neurons in the brain, [music] and we're"}, {"start": "00:42:57", "end": "00:43:02", "text": "all familiar with those. Now, we're"}, {"start": "00:43:00", "end": "00:43:04", "text": "talking about neurons in the heart."}, {"start": "00:43:02", "end": "00:43:06", "text": "So, I'd like for you to see, maybe for"}, {"start": "00:43:04", "end": "00:43:07", "text": "the first time, what those neurons"}, {"start": "00:43:06", "end": "00:43:08", "text": "really look like,"}, {"start": "00:43:07", "end": "00:43:09", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:43:08", "end": "00:43:12", "text": ">> how they function, what they do, and"}, {"start": "00:43:09", "end": "00:43:15", "text": "what they mean in your life, so that we"}, {"start": "00:43:12", "end": "00:43:16", "text": "can use this idea, and you can have this"}, {"start": "00:43:15", "end": "00:43:18", "text": "mental imagery [music]"}, {"start": "00:43:16", "end": "00:43:20", "text": "as you move forward and begin to connect"}, {"start": "00:43:18", "end": "00:43:21", "text": "your heart and your brain."}, {"start": "00:43:20", "end": "00:43:23", "text": "So, on your screen [music] right now,"}, {"start": "00:43:21", "end": "00:43:25", "text": "what you're seeing is a typical neuron"}, {"start": "00:43:23", "end": "00:43:29", "text": "in the brain."}, {"start": "00:43:25", "end": "00:43:31", "text": "The large nodule is the neuron itself."}, {"start": "00:43:29", "end": "00:43:33", "text": "And the branches that come out are the"}, {"start": "00:43:31", "end": "00:43:35", "text": "neurites. 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They're in"}, {"start": "00:43:56", "end": "00:43:59", "text": "the human heart."}, {"start": "00:43:57", "end": "00:44:00", "text": "There's an organization, a pioneering"}, {"start": "00:43:59", "end": "00:44:01", "text": "research organization in Northern"}, {"start": "00:44:00", "end": "00:44:04", "text": "California, [music]"}, {"start": "00:44:01", "end": "00:44:07", "text": "the Institute of Heart Math."}, {"start": "00:44:04", "end": "00:44:09", "text": "H E A [music] R T, capital M A T H, but"}, {"start": "00:44:07", "end": "00:44:12", "text": "it's all one word."}, {"start": "00:44:09", "end": "00:44:14", "text": "And they are pioneers at researching the"}, {"start": "00:44:12", "end": "00:44:17", "text": "human heart in non-conventional ways"}, {"start": "00:44:14", "end": "00:44:19", "text": "[music] based on rock-solid science."}, {"start": "00:44:17", "end": "00:44:21", "text": "They've made these images available to"}, {"start": "00:44:19", "end": "00:44:21", "text": "us today, so I can share them with you."}, {"start": "00:44:21", "end": "00:44:23", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:44:21", "end": "00:44:26", "text": ">> So, you're actually seeing the neurons"}, {"start": "00:44:23", "end": "00:44:27", "text": "in the human heart, and these are the"}, {"start": "00:44:26", "end": "00:44:28", "text": "neurons that begin to communicate"}, {"start": "00:44:27", "end": "00:44:31", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "00:44:28", "end": "00:44:33", "text": "with other neurons and form the network"}, {"start": "00:44:31", "end": "00:44:34", "text": "between the heart and the brain that"}, {"start": "00:44:33", "end": "00:44:35", "text": "enable [music]"}, {"start": "00:44:34", "end": "00:44:38", "text": "the activities, all the things that we"}, {"start": "00:44:35", "end": "00:44:40", "text": "just talked about. Subconscious access,"}, {"start": "00:44:38", "end": "00:44:41", "text": "super learning, super information"}, {"start": "00:44:40", "end": "00:44:43", "text": "processing, deep intuition [music] on"}, {"start": "00:44:41", "end": "00:44:46", "text": "demand, all of those things."}, {"start": "00:44:43", "end": "00:44:47", "text": "Now, watch you see how this happens. So,"}, {"start": "00:44:46", "end": "00:44:49", "text": "I'm going to share with you a brief"}, {"start": "00:44:47", "end": "00:44:52", "text": "[music] film clip."}, {"start": "00:44:49", "end": "00:44:55", "text": "In this little clip, the technology now"}, {"start": "00:44:52", "end": "00:44:56", "text": "is so awesome that allows us to see"}, {"start": "00:44:55", "end": "00:44:59", "text": "these neurons not as still images, but"}, {"start": "00:44:56", "end": "00:45:01", "text": "we can actually see them functioning"}, {"start": "00:44:59", "end": "00:45:03", "text": "inside of living tissue."}, {"start": "00:45:01", "end": "00:45:06", "text": "So, what you're seeing on the screen"}, {"start": "00:45:03", "end": "00:45:09", "text": "right now is you're seeing neurons"}, {"start": "00:45:06", "end": "00:45:11", "text": "in time lapse, and you're seeing from"}, {"start": "00:45:09", "end": "00:45:12", "text": "the neurons, you're seeing the neurites"}, {"start": "00:45:11", "end": "00:45:14", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:45:12", "end": "00:45:15", "text": ">> as they move out. They're very social."}, {"start": "00:45:14", "end": "00:45:16", "text": "They want to hook up. They want to"}, {"start": "00:45:15", "end": "00:45:18", "text": "connect."}, {"start": "00:45:16", "end": "00:45:20", "text": "So, these neurites are looking for other"}, {"start": "00:45:18", "end": "00:45:22", "text": "neurites to hook up with because they"}, {"start": "00:45:20", "end": "00:45:24", "text": "want to form a network. They want to"}, {"start": "00:45:22", "end": "00:45:26", "text": "form a chain. And when they do, like"}, {"start": "00:45:24", "end": "00:45:29", "text": "you're seeing right now, the red arrows"}, {"start": "00:45:26", "end": "00:45:31", "text": "on your screen are showing these"}, {"start": "00:45:29", "end": "00:45:34", "text": "networks connecting [music] as well as"}, {"start": "00:45:31", "end": "00:45:36", "text": "disconnecting. A passing thought. This"}, {"start": "00:45:34", "end": "00:45:37", "text": "is what happens. We have a passing"}, {"start": "00:45:36", "end": "00:45:40", "text": "thought, there's a connection that's"}, {"start": "00:45:37", "end": "00:45:41", "text": "brief, and then that connection goes"}, {"start": "00:45:40", "end": "00:45:44", "text": "away."}, {"start": "00:45:41", "end": "00:45:46", "text": "So, as we see these images, I'm going to"}, {"start": "00:45:44", "end": "00:45:48", "text": "invite [music] you to think about what"}, {"start": "00:45:46", "end": "00:45:49", "text": "this means in your life."}, {"start": "00:45:48", "end": "00:45:53", "text": "Because"}, {"start": "00:45:49", "end": "00:45:55", "text": "when these neurons are growing, [music]"}, {"start": "00:45:53", "end": "00:45:57", "text": "they are growing in response to"}, {"start": "00:45:55", "end": "00:46:00", "text": "something that you are doing in your"}, {"start": "00:45:57", "end": "00:46:02", "text": "life. The act,"}, {"start": "00:46:00", "end": "00:46:04", "text": "the act of you"}, {"start": "00:46:02", "end": "00:46:06", "text": "striving"}, {"start": "00:46:04", "end": "00:46:09", "text": "to become something more in the [music]"}, {"start": "00:46:06", "end": "00:46:11", "text": "next moments of your life than you were"}, {"start": "00:46:09", "end": "00:46:14", "text": "in the last moments."}, {"start": "00:46:11", "end": "00:46:15", "text": "The act of you choosing to learn"}, {"start": "00:46:14", "end": "00:46:17", "text": "something new,"}, {"start": "00:46:15", "end": "00:46:19", "text": "to learn a new way to play your guitar,"}, {"start": "00:46:17", "end": "00:46:21", "text": "to play [music] the piano, or a new form"}, {"start": "00:46:19", "end": "00:46:22", "text": "of art, or a new"}, {"start": "00:46:21", "end": "00:46:24", "text": "thinking in terms of solving a"}, {"start": "00:46:22", "end": "00:46:27", "text": "mathematic problem, or a new book, or a"}, {"start": "00:46:24", "end": "00:46:30", "text": "new play, [music] or a new sculpture."}, {"start": "00:46:27", "end": "00:46:33", "text": "It is the act of creativity,"}, {"start": "00:46:30", "end": "00:46:36", "text": "the act of you"}, {"start": "00:46:33", "end": "00:46:39", "text": "triggering that creativity within your"}, {"start": "00:46:36", "end": "00:46:42", "text": "will, within your being. 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Maybe you're learning French,"}, {"start": "00:47:09", "end": "00:47:15", "text": "or when I was trying Tibetan, Tibetan is"}, {"start": "00:47:12", "end": "00:47:17", "text": "a very difficult [music] language for me"}, {"start": "00:47:15", "end": "00:47:19", "text": "because it doesn't relate to English the"}, {"start": "00:47:17", "end": "00:47:21", "text": "way alphabets and the way that we're"}, {"start": "00:47:19", "end": "00:47:23", "text": "we're used to hearing words."}, {"start": "00:47:21", "end": "00:47:25", "text": "So, when I began [music] learning the"}, {"start": "00:47:23", "end": "00:47:27", "text": "little Tibetan that I do know,"}, {"start": "00:47:25", "end": "00:47:29", "text": "what I would do is I would go through"}, {"start": "00:47:27", "end": "00:47:30", "text": "the motion. 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How are they"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "going to do this?"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "One of the"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "contributors, uh and I see he plays many"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "roles, Yuval Harari, some of you know"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "exactly who he is. He's a a contributor"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "at um he's a historian. He's a thinker."}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "He's a philosopher. He's an author."}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "Uh and he is a contributor at the World"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "Economic Forum"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "is now saying that humans, specifically,"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "are hackable. We are hackable, he says,"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "hackable animals. We have hackable"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "biology."}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "And it's because we are hackable that"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "technology is able to remake the way"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "that our bodies function and our"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "relationship to the world. This is"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "called transhumanism. Trans means beyond"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "human, so beyond human."}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "I was at a conference recently"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "having this conversation and a number of"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "the scientists were in there and they"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "said, \"Well, Greg,"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "isn't this the next step in our"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "evolution to merge humankind, our"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "biology, with technology? To merge"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "biology with silicon, to em- embody"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "those technologies into our our bodies."}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "Isn't that the next step in our"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "evolution?\" And I said, \"No. Absolutely"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "not. I said it is a form of evolution."}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "It's not natural. It's a forced"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "evolution. And here's the thing. Here's"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "the thing. No one tells us what the"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "cost."}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "What is the cost of giving our bodies"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "away to technology? They're not talking"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "about this. The cost is that we lose our"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "very humanness. In the rest of this"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "program, I'm going to show you what that"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "means."}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "But for right now, what I'll say is"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "this. When you begin to relinquish your"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "natural abilities, your natural immune"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "system, your natural cognitive"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "abilities, uh your your ability your"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "sensory abilities, when you begin to"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "trade them for technology, here's what"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "happens."}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "Your natural abilities feel that they're"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "no longer needed in your body and they"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "begin to atrophy."}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "And they atrophy to the point where"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "pretty soon you don't have them anymore."}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "They no longer function. In the next"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "generation, those abilities become a"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "vestige of something that we used to do"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "that we don't do anymore."}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "The human body works on a principle"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "called use it or lose it."}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "And you've all heard that before. Use it"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "or lose it."}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "So, if we don't use our cognitive"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "abilities, I'm going to give you some"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "examples as we go through the program."}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "If we don't use our our immune systems,"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "if we don't use our reproductive systems"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "in the way they were designed, our body"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "begins to atrophy those those systems."}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "So, this is what we're not told is is"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "the cost. Now, I'm going to share"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "something and and I'm not going to dwell"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "on this the whole day. I want you to"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "have this. This is a context for"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "everything that we're going to do and"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "then we're going to let it go and we're"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "going to we're going to jump in this to"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "the new discoveries, applying them in"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "our lives, the meditations, all that."}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "But this context is very important"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "because if you don't have what we're"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "talking about, it's easy to be coerced"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "or indoctrinated into accepting these"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "technologies because they make them look"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "really attractive."}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "The marketing says that you'll be safer"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "if you take these technologies into your"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "body. Your life will be easier. You will"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "be healthier. This is what what you're"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "being told through the very slick, very"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "sexy marketing. And so, I want you to be"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "informed so that you can make healthy"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "choices."}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "One of the most important things maybe"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "that I'll be able to share with you"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "today is this."}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "We all know there's evil"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "in the world and it's kind of a nebulous"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "concept. I want to give you a benchmark."}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "I want to give you something rock solid"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "so you can see when it shows up in your"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "life."}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "And we now have everything we need to do"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "just that."}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "The benchmark for evil, okay, if"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "divinity is the ability to transcend"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "perceived limitations, anything that"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "denies your divinity is an expression of"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "evil."}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "Anything that takes away from you"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "the ability to imagine, to innovate, to"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "create, to have empathy, sympathy,"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "compassion, the ability to heal your own"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "body,"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "the ability to love without fear, the"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "ability to forgive without guilt,"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "these are all expressions of divinity."}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "Anything that denies your divinity is an"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "expression of evil."}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "And I want you to know that because I'm"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "in this with you. We're all going to be"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "coerced or indoctrinated into accepting"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "into our lives and our bodies"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "technologies. Are they good for us or"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "are they not? How do you know? Here's a"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "benchmark right here."}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "Does it support my divinity or does it"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "deny my divinity?"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "I'm not suggesting what to do. I'm"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "giving you the tools so that you can"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "make your own decisions for you and in"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "your family. All right?"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "The struggle that I'm talking about,"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "beyond being technological and"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "psychological,"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "uh and kinetic, it is a deeply spiritual"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "struggle. Of course, it is."}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "Because we're talking about good and"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "evil. But let me show you what it means."}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "The question, we're going to get through"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "this little window of time, these next"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "few years. We're all going to get"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "through it together and maybe we'll come"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "back here and we'll have a reunion."}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "We'll have a pure human reunion program"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "in 2031 and we'll say, \"Okay, how did it"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "go?\""}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "But here's the question. We're going to"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "get through it."}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "I'm going to look you right in the eye"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "when I say this."}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "What do we become"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "in the presence of what we're asked"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "to to do in our lives? What do we become"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "in the presence of the changes?"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "Do we allow the changes in the world"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "around us to make us into something we"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "would never choose to be in a million"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "years? Now, I'm going to be personal."}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "Do you allow the changes to make you"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "into something"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "that you would never choose in a million"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "years? Do you allow the consequences of"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "a presidential election"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "to drive you to the most primal"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "instincts of fear or hate or revenge,"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "for example?"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "And if you do, I'm not judging as right,"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "wrong, good, or bad. 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What"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "do we become in the presence of what"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "we're shown?"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "You know, there's sometimes we all have"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "what's called a spiritual warrior."}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "And there's sometimes when that"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "spiritual warrior has to to claim the"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "values that we cherish or"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "uh you know, the the ideas. The question"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "is, do we respond from love or from"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "fear?"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "All right? Someone comes to you"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "and maybe they attack you personally,"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "they attack your family, they say"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "something to you on social media, they"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "say something to your kids, and you lash"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "out"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "as a spiritual warrior does."}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "Here's the question. 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Technology in our lives"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "and proposals to put technology into our"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "bodies."}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "What our ancestors said to us very"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "clearly was that we are the technology."}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "And I want to show you from a scientific"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "perspective precisely what that means."}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "How can we be considered as a"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "technology? Let me begin with a story."}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "I live in a remote area in the high"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "desert of northern New Mexico."}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "In 1986,"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "I was hiking through a remote canyon,"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "an archaeological site now that is known"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "as Chaco Canyon, a United Nations UNESCO"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "World Heritage Site."}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "And I happened to meet a native man on"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "the trail."}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "And we began to talk and he told me a"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "story. Let me share his story with you."}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "He said long ago"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "the people of this land lived very"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "differently than they do today."}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "They lived closer to the earth. They"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "understood who they were and they"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "remembered their history. They"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "remembered their ancestry."}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "He said then something happened"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "and even the elders don't know exactly"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "what it was. He said, \"But they forgot"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "who they were. They began to lose the"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "memory"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "of who they were"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "and they became lonely. And they so"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "longed for the connection that their"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "heart knew they used to have."}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "They began to build machines outside of"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "their bodies"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "that mimic the connections that they"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "used to have from inside of their"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "bodies.\""}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "He said, \"We live in that world today."}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "All the things that you see in the world"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "around us from radar systems and the"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "internet to artificial intelligence to"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "high-speed computers."}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "As good as they are, every one of them"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "mimics the functions that we already"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "perform inside of our bodies."}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "And he said, \"We will continue to"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "clutter"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "our external world with all of these"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "machines until one day we remember who"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "we are."}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "And on that day"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "we let the machines go and we awaken to"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "the deep truth of what it means to be"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "fully human. We awaken the human"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "blueprint within us.\""}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "Let me just give give you an example."}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "You know, when I do live events"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "a lot of young people come to me during"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "the breaks and they ask questions."}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "And they say, \"Mr. Brayden, what about"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "computers? What about AI?"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "Aren't they superior to what we are"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "today?\""}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "Well, they're obviously fast. Computer"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "chips definitely fast. They are"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "definitely efficient. But I want you to"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "look at this. Scientists at Stanford"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "University did an experiment. It's a"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "mind-blower."}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "They compared a human brain to a"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "microprocessor."}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "And the bottom line, I'll give it away"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "right now, they found that the human"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "brain not only meets but it exceeds the"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "capacity of the microprocessor. Let me"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "show you how this works. This was done"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "at the Salk Institute, Stanford"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "University."}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "They compared a human brain"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "to a microprocessor and my first"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "question is how do you even do that? How"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "do you make that comparison?"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "Here's what they did."}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "They equated the synapses"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "in the brain, the the little space"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "between the neurons, the gap where we"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "see the electrical spark"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "in science fiction movies and we see it"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "in in biology movies."}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "That little"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "little gap with a spark, they equated"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "that with the transistors"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "on the microprocessor."}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "Interestingly enough, there's about the"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "same number of synapses in the human"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "brain as there are transistors on"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "today's microprocessors. I mean, you"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "can't make this stuff up."}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "So, they're they're making that"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "comparison."}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "I know you don't want to see the complex"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "and very technical study. So, I'm going"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "to give you the bottom line."}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "A computer right now tops out at about 6"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "billion instructions per second. Guess"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "what? The human brain tops out at about"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "100 billion instructions per second."}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "The conclusion to the study done by the"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "Salk Institute is that the human brain"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "possesses a hundredfold more information"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "than a modern microprocessor even using"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "multiple cores."}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "All right? And this is just one example."}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "Our brain is scalable. Here's what I"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "mean by that."}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "Computer chip, is it fast? Yes. Is it"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "efficient? Yes. Is it scalable?"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "Well,"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "the top end of a computer chip will"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "always be limited by the physics of the"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "silicon."}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "The atoms of silicon are only going to"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "allow information to move so quickly."}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "So, we say that the computer chip"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "its scalability is finite. It can only"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "go so far and hits a dead end. Now,"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "what is the top end of a human brain?"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "Oh,"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "the answer is we don't know. And we"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "don't know"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "because every time we push against we"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "believed were the limits of a human"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "brain,"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "the brain does what human brains do. It"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "morphs and it adapts."}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "And it opens a whole new vista of"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "potential every time we reach what we"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "thought was a limit, that limit gives"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "way to new expressions in the human"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "brain. What is our top end? We don't"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "know. It appears we don't have one"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "because we will always morph and adapt."}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "And this is just one example of when I"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "say to you that we meet and in many"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "cases exceed the potential"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "of the machines that we're being asked"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "to put into our bodies. We're scalable"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "beyond any known limits, but look what"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "else we are. We're self-replicating. Our"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "cells know exactly what to do to"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "recreate themselves. We're"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "self-regulating. We're self-diagnosing."}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "We're self-healing."}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "And we're self-actualizing and no"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "machines can do that."}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "The average human has about 50 trillion"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "cells in the human body, give or take"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "some cells."}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "What a lot of people don't know is every"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "one of those cells is a little tiny"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "electrical circuit. It's not a metaphor"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "for a circuit. It is actually literally"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "a circuit and what you're seeing on your"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "screen is a diagram"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "for the human cell. It has an input. It"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "has an output."}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "We have portions of our cells that"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "function as transistors and resistors"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "that massage the information in the"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "cells. Every cell generates about 0.07"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "volts of electrical potential. And you"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "say, \"Well, that's not very much.\" I"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "agree with you, but let's do the math."}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "50 trillion cells times 0.07 volts, look"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "at this. We're talking about 3.5"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "trillion volts of electrical potential"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "in your body and my body."}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "What would it mean if we could bring"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "that all together? Apply it to our own"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "healing."}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "Or apply it to super memory, super"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "learning, super cognition, longevity,"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "immune response. Well, you can. And"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "that's why I'm talking to you about"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "these things right now, but it doesn't"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "stop there. Every cell in our body"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "functions just like electrical"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "components, like transistors and"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "resistors and capacitors."}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "And if you're a young person watching"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "this and you see those pictures of"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "transistors and resistors and capacitors"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "and you say, \"What in the world are"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "those?\" Then the next picture on the"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "screen answers that. That is a"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "microprocessor."}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "That's what they look like today."}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "On that microprocessor are all the"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "transistors and resistors and capacitors"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "that used to be big surface mount"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "components. They're all miniaturized."}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "They're on that little circuit right"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "now. So, we're all talking the same"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "thing."}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "Every cell in your body"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "emits photons of light and you can"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "actually see the light. You can measure"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "it under certain conditions. We receive"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "photons of light. Light is information."}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "You and I are communicating"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "with this world. The question is do you"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "know what we're saying? We're sending"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "out information and we're receiving"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "information. Every cell stores and"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "retrieves information just like a"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "computer chip. Every cell functions like"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "blockchain technology. And if that"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "sounds familiar to you, it's because the"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "new financial systems like Bitcoin"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "actually mimic the way that information"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "is stored in human DNA."}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "I know that's new for some people. Let"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "me just Let me share a little bit with"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "you what what that means."}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "In the cell,"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "every cell of your body,"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "of the over 8 billion humans that live"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "on this planet,"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "there is a record of every successful"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "genetic transaction that our species has"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "ever had."}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "Now, listen to the way that record is"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "described. It's transparent."}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "It is immutable."}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "It is secure."}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "And if those words sound familiar, those"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "are precisely the words used to describe"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "blockchain technology in general,"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "Bitcoin specifically."}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "Because that technology mimics the way"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "information is stored and distributed in"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "the human body, throughout all of the"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "cells. I could go on and on with this,"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "but you get the point."}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "Now, where this gets really, really"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "interesting"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "is five of these epigenetic triggers"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "involve the human heart."}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "So, when we access the intelligence in"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "our heart, we're accessing five"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "epigenetic triggers. Those are thought,"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "feeling, emotion, breath,"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "and focus."}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "When we create a focus in our bodies,"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "and we have very specific kinds of"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "emotions,"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "and thoughts, and feelings, what we know"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "is that we begin to change our biology"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "very, very quickly. It impacts longevity"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "enzymes. 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It feels independently"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "from the cranial brain."}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "What does that mean?"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "It means every experience that you and I"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "have ever had,"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "we interpret it in two different places."}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "All of the joy, all of the ecstasy,"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "all of the hurt,"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "all of the trauma,"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "in the heart and in the brain."}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "This helps us to understand we attempt"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "to heal"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "our hurt and our trauma. 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Now"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "you know the reason."}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "Because the heart feels, remembers, and"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "thinks very, very differently from the"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "way the brain feels."}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "The heart communicates with the field."}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "The heart accesses all of our divinity,"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "all of our divine processes."}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "So, what the science has found today"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "parallels"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "the traditions and the techniques"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "of some of our most ancient and"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "cherished spiritual traditions when it"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "comes to accessing the heart through our"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "soft technology, through the"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "epigenetics."}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "How do you do this?"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "I'm going to share with you three basic"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "steps."}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "And once we have this experience, I want"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "you to see how easy it is, but I also"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "want you to note how it feels in your"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "body to create this kind of a coherent."}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "Now, if you have done this before in a"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "room with a lot of people, and you're"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "doing it now"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "in a room where you were alone, I'm"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "going to tell you that it's going to"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "feel different. 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The second step."}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "I'm going to invite you to slow your"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "breathing just a little bit."}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "Slower than you would typically breathe."}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "Let's do four [music]"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "counts on the inhale and six counts on"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "the release."}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "The key is to release for [music] a"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "period of time"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "a little bit longer than the inhale."}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "So, with your focus in your heart, I'm"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "going to invite you"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "to begin your breath with me. 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Begin."}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "Release."}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "Just feel your body settle into [music]"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "that space."}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "Inhale."}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "And release."}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "Just feel the shift in your body."}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "Inhale once again."}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "And release."}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "And to the best of your ability,"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "continue breathing [music] just about"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "that pace."}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "As if your breath is coming from your"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "heart while you hold the focus in your"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "heart."}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "And third step. [music]"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "The third step, I'm going to invite you"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "to have a feeling because you choose"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "[music] to have the feeling regardless"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "of what the world around you is showing"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "you."}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "What the scientists [music]"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "have found"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "is that the experience of [music]"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "gratitude works pretty much"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "universally for everyone across all"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "languages."}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "So, to the best of your ability, if you"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "can feel [music] the feeling of"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "gratitude for anything or anyone, I'm"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "doing the same thing right now."}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "Just feel that gratitude [music]"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "as you continue breathing a little"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "slower"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "from your heart with the focus in your"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "heart center."}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "What you're doing [music] is creating a"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "state"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "in your body that your body knows very"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "well."}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "When you were a baby, this was your"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "natural state. [music] You lived in"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "coherence until you were conditioned"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "out of the coherence"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "by the world around you."}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "So, if this feels familiar to [music]"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "you,"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "that's maybe the reason why."}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "What the science has found is that a"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "minimum of 3 [music] minutes"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "of this simple coherence"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "will create the effects that will last"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "up [music] to 6 hours."}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "100% increase in the DHEA level in the"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "body, the precursor to every hormone in"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "your body."}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "A decrease in the stress hormone"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "cortisol"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:42", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:44", "text": ">> by 23% after only 3 minutes."}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "And all you're doing is feeling,"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "focusing, and breathing."}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "That is a technology. 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And if you know anything"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "about a speaker or an author, I think"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "probably the hardest thing to do is for"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "them to talk about themselves. They"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "typically prefer to talk about the"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "content. But if I were you, if I were"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "sitting where you are right now, I would"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "want to know who is this? Who is this"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "person that put this together? and and"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "why did he take the time in his life to"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "put together these 10 modules? What is"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "it that he wants me to get from it? What"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "is he trying to say? And why is he"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "saying it right now? Well, these are all"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "good questions and and that's what I"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "want to talk to you about right now. I"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "um I am a scientist. I'm a degreed earth"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "scientist, a structural geologist"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "with a very strong background in math,"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "physics, and computer science. And I'm"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "saying that for a reason. It's because I"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "have a multi-disciplinary"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "scientific background that I'm able to"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "stay current with new discoveries that"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "are happening every single week in the"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "world of science. It's not like, you"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "know, one discovery happens like once a"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "year. There are scientific journals,"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "peer-reviewed scientific journals like"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "the journal science for example that"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "come out every 30 days. There are so"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "many discoveries that they have to"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "publish a weekly supplement to keep us"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "informed of the new discoveries that are"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "happening so frequently. So it's my"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "multi-disiplinary background that gives"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "me the opportunity to stay current with"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "these discoveries and what they mean in"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "our lives, what they mean in our world"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "and what they mean in terms of policies"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "potential"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "uh in in our lives. So the scientific"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "background is important but that"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "scientific background didn't happen in a"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "vacuum. I happen to have developed this"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "scientific background during a time when"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "the history of the United States was"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "facing a series of crises. So in the"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "1970s, some of you may remember this,"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "there was an energy crisis where the oil"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "from the Middle East was shut off to the"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "west and gasoline was rationed in the"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "United States 10 gallons per car per"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "day. Some of you may remember that. And"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "I began working as a geologist using my"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "background in computer science for"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "subsurface mapping in the United States"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "searching for energy to replace what we"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "had lost from the Middle East. That was"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "my first crisis. The second crisis was"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "during the Cold War, a very frightening"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "time when the two superpowers at the"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "time, the former Soviet Union and the"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "former United States of America, because"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "neither one are the same country"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "anymore, were competing for"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "technological dominance and nuclear"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "weapons were a big part of that. It was"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "a very frightening time where I"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "developed my computer science background"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "to an even greater degree using"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "artificial intelligence that was"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "actually available in the 1980s and"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "pattern recognition software to"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "contribute to uh to the endeavor that"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "ultimately led to the end of the the"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "cold war. And in the 1990s there was an"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "information sharing crisis. New"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "computers were being developed and they"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "all spoke different languages. We had"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "PDP and DEEC, Deck and Sun and Apple and"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "IBM."}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "And all these computers were speaking"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "unique languages. They couldn't speak to"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "one another."}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "And I happened to begin working for a"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "little company called Cisco Systems when"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "the US military asked for an RFP,"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "request for proposal for a device that"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "would allow all the computers to talk to"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "one another. For the first time, Cisco"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "was the company that happened to have"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "what was called a protocol converter."}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "And I was the first technical operations"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "manager for Cisco systems during that"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "time. It was a very, very interesting"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "time. The reason I'm sharing this with"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "you is because my history is in applying"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "science to solve problems during times"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "of crisis. Well, I'm not working in"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "those corporations anymore, Fortune 500"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "corporations that I was working in the"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "70s all the way through the 90s. But we"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "are in a time of crisis. It's a"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "different kind of crisis. It's a crisis"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "of our humanness. It's a crisis of"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "consciousness. It's a crisis when we're"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "being coerced, indoctrinated, some cases"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "mandated to exchange our very humanness"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "for technology. computer chips in the"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "brain, chemicals in the blood, RFID"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "chips under the skin, AI in our lives,"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "AI in our bodies. You know what I'm"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "talking about. You're seeing the same"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "things that I am. And it is this crisis"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "that has led me to take all that I know"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "from the world of science and all of my"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "expertise and problem solving and apply"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "it to us, to you and me, because I think"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "we're worth it. The very best minds of"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "our time are telling us that if we do"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "not change the trajectory that we are on"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "right now, the technological trajectory"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "that by the year 2030, we will be very"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "probably the last generation of what are"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "called pure humans that the world will"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "ever know. After 2030, humans that are"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "born will be some degree of hybrid, some"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "kind of technology, will be inside their"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "bodies as well as in their lives. What"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "we're not being told is the consequences"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "of what that means. When we give our"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "humanness away to technology, our"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "natural abilities begin to atrophy. So I"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "have always believed if we know where to"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "look in our past and how to read the"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "legacy that our ancestors have left for"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "us that we would find the wisdom to"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "transcend the kind of crisis that we're"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "in right now. To to end the wars that"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "caused so much suffering in the 20th and"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "now the 21st century and to honor and"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "preserve the gift of our humanness"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "before we lose it forever. to robots, AI"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "and technology. I believed that that is"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "the case and that's why I put this"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "course together because I want you to"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "understand what I've come to understand."}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "I want you to see the good news. The"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "good news from the science is that it is"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "revealing human capabilities, human"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "potentials that sound like science"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "fiction, but they're very real. The"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "ability to self-regulate our own immune"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "system on demand. Create a strong immune"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "system when you want it. The ability to"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "self-regulate longevity enzymes that"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "live in every every body of the 8"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "billion people that walk this earth. We"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "have longevity enzymes that want to do"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "their jobs to heal us and keep us alive"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "for extended periods of time, but they"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "need the instructions. Those"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "instructions come from the human heart."}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "And this is part of the information that"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "was left out of our spiritual traditions"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "when the texts were translated,"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "mistransated, and when books were"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "omitted from our most ancient and"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "cherished spiritual traditions."}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "All of these come together. The only way"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "to understand the deep truth of who we"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "are, what our potential is, is to cross"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "the traditional boundaries that have"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "defined our world in the past. To cross"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "the boundaries between chemistry and"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "biology and history and geology and"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "physics and and linguistics and"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "spirituality. You've got to cross those"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "boundaries"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "and weave the knowledge into a wisdom"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "that's more than the blocks of knowledge"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "can be alone."}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "That's why I'm doing what I'm doing"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "right now. That's why I've created this"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "10 module course."}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "How did I get there? Some people ask me"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "the question, Greg, how did you make"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "what they feel is a quantum leap from"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "the world of science and technology and"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "the corporations to spirituality."}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "You know, for me, it was never a leap."}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "It was a logical progression. But I'll"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "share with you a story that I rarely"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "share with anyone."}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "It's a story that happened to me in 1986"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "when I was working in the defense"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "industry. 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Uh you'll"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "definitely want to take notes."}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "There are other aspects of the course uh"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "that unity is going to announce after uh"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "you've you've taken this so that we can"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "stay in touch that we can stay together"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "we can follow up and maybe have some"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "resolution to some of the questions that"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "you might have so I can stay in touch"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "with you. So I want you to know that"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "this course was put together with you in"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "mind. If I were sitting in your chair"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "looking at the world that's facing me"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "today, how can I make healthy decisions"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "for myself and for my family? This"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "course, what I'm saying to you now is"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "the answer to that question. All right,"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "so with that, let's let's launch into"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "this course. I am going to say right"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "now, I hope you enjoy this journey as"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "much as I've enjoyed creating it for"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "you. Uh, and I hope you enjoy this story"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "as much as I've enjoyed"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "exploring this story and pulling this"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "story from so many different sources to"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "put it together into a meaningful"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "journey for you. So, you don't have to"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "go out to all those sources, but if you"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "want to, I'm giving you lots of"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "references to go do your own research"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "and take it even deeper. All right,"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "let's begin the journey. Thank you so"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "much for signing up. Thank you for"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "sharing a part of your day with me. Here"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "we go."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "Is it possible that we carry a message"}, {"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "in our DNA? Well, how can you even carry"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "a message in DNA? I mean that what is it"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "like a a written something, you know, in"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "inside the cells."}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "Uh 2007, Japanese scientists released a"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "paper, peer-reviewed paper. I'm going to"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "get close. It was in the journal um uh"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "scientific American"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "uh no, American Chemical Society is"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "where it was. 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Now,"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "here's the kicker, and this is what the"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "reason they published it in this journal"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "is because the DNA is actually a better"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "storage mechanism than the flash drive"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "of your computer. DNA is a thousand"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "times more dense for storage than flash"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "memory. 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If"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "an asteroid hits the earth or we got a"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "nuclear war or whatever it is and"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "everything's lost as long as there's one"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "special computer and one"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "bacteria and there's there's a lot of"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "them that are stored."}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "We will always have the ability to to"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "retrieve that information and and start"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "over. That's that's how powerful this"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "is. So this isn't like some metaphor."}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "It's not some peripheral thing. This is"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "real scientists and now corporations are"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "storing information in DNA. All right."}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "And the DNA is in all kinds of"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "organisms."}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "When I began to understand this, my"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "question is simply this. A long long"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "time ago, did this happen to us? If we"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "are the product of an intentional act,"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "and I I referred to this earlier that"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "we're not the product of uh random"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "mutations. I'm a geologist. I'll be"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "really clear. I believe in evolution."}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "I've seen it in the fossil record. I saw"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "it my fieldwork. plants, insects,"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "animals."}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "The theory breaks down when it comes to"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "humans because something happened to us"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "200,000 years ago, 10,000 generations"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "ago. And that something sets us apart"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "from all other forms of life. We are not"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "the product of random mutations"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "happening slowly over a long period of"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "time. 200,000 years ago, we showed up"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "the way we are today. We compare our DNA"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "to the DNA pulled out of the fossils"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "from our ancestors. We haven't changed"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "the DNA same genome. All right. So if we"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "are the product of an intentional act,"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "is it possible that who or whatever is"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "responsible for us would have left a"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "mark, would have left a signature?"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "You know, I know many of you are artists"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "and as an artist, what's the last thing"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "you do when you create something that"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "you're proud of? The last thing that you"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "do to your painting or the last thing"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "you do to your sculpture is you sign it."}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "You put your name on it because you're"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "proud of it."}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "I would hope that who or whatever is"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "responsible for us is proud of us as a"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "creation and has left a signature. All"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "right? And that signature exists. It's"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "in the DNA of every cell of your body."}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "What I I'm going to say is you've got to"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "think differently about your cells."}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "We've already thought of cells from a"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "perspective of information technology,"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "it well, now we're going to think of it"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "even on a more different level. Think of"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "the cell. What if every one of those 50"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "trillion cells in your body? Those"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "sticky, wet, gooey, mushy things. What"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "if every cell literally is a library?"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "That's a way different way of thinking."}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "What do you find in a library? You go to"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "the library and you find books. What if"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "every chromosome"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "inside of your cells is a book?"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "And those chromosomes are made of"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "smaller segments of DNA called genes."}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "What if every one of those genes are"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "paragraphs and sentences and words?"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "Well, that's exactly what's happening."}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "Now, I didn't go into a lot of detail"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "with this in the book. I began exploring"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "this in 1986."}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "We didn't have desktop computers. We"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "didn't have a genome like we have right"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "now."}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "Uh my job as a senior computer systems"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "designer was a special area of"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "programming called pattern recognition"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "software. The first time I saw human"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "DNA, the human genome, I recognized it"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "wasn't random. There were patterns in"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "the DNA and that sent me on a journey"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "to find what the information says."}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "To complete that journey, I had to do"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "something that scientists typically"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "don't do. I lost a lot of credibility"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "for doing this. I crossed the"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "traditional boundaries that separate"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "many of the sciences. I crossed the"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "traditional boundaries between chemistry"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "and genetics and biology and linguistics"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "and ancient languages. And I went to a"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "3,000-year-old text that had the exact"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "instructions for how humankind was"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "created. And I looked at those"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "instructions that are ancient and I"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "interpreted them through the lens of the"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "modern world, through the lens of the"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "periodic table of elements and through"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "the lens of of DNA and chemistry. We're"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "going to do this together right now. I'm"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "going to do it quickly at a very high"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "level. I don't want to get bogged down"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "in the information. I want us to go to"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "the result. If you want, a lot of the"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "details are in chapter two of the book"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "that you hold in your hand. All right."}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "So, let's do this. How would we decode"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "the message in our DNA? Well, first of"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "all, DNA is made of four chemical bases."}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "You've all seen these on science fiction"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "programs. is adinine, thymine, cytosine,"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "and and guanine. And you typically see"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "them abbreviated by the first letter,"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "ATCG."}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "All right, so all all of our DNA is only"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "made from those four chemical bases."}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "What does that mean? Well, let's take a"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "look at this. Thamine, it's going to"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "look like biology 101 just for a second"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "here. Bear with me. Thammine is made of"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "four elements. Hydrogen, nitrogen,"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "oxygen, carbon. That's it. All right."}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "Guanine, same thing. Hydrogen, nitrogen,"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "oxygen, carbon. You see a pattern here."}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "We're going somewhere with this."}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "Cytosine, same thing. Hydrogen,"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "nitrogen, oxygen, carbon. Adanine, same"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "thing. But here's the key. The number of"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "atoms of hydrogen, nitrogen, oxygen,"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "carbon is different for every one of"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "those. Check this out. So here for"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "hydrogen, for thamine, you've got six"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "hydrogens. All right? Guanine, you've"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "only got five. Thamine, you've got two"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "nitrogens. Nitrogen, uh, guanine, you've"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "got five nitrogens. And so you can see"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "this is what sets these apart. There's"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "different amounts of the elements,"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "hydrogen, nitrogen, oxygen, carbon in"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "each of those. Okay? All life, all"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "carbon based life, including you and me,"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "were made of that stuff on your screen"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "right there. So now, let's look at it on"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "the periodic table of elements. It's"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "what your kids do in school. It's what"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "you probably did in school. And here it"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "is. I've highlighted these in in green."}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "Hydrogen, nitrogen, oxygen, carbon. All"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "right. Now, there are a lot of ways to"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "represent the words. Hydrogen is a word"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "I'm using, but there's a lot of numbers"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "that will represent hydrogen. There's"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "atomic weight, atomic mass, veence, you"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "know, electron spin, all kinds of"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "things. Melting point. All right."}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "put that on hold just for a minute. Kind"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "of take the idea, those elements, set"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "them over here. Shift gears because"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "we're multitasking brains. We can do"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "this."}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "Let's talk about ancient languages."}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "There are four root writing systems that"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "are the foundation for the ancient"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "languages that we study today. One of"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "those is called CUNI form. It's not an"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "alphabet. It's actually a writing"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "system. Um, interestingly from cunia"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "form Sanskrit is derived uh as well as"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "um as uh Arabic and Hebrew. All right,"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "these are four ancient they're called"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "root or core writing systems."}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "Now this is important. The reason I'm"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "saying this to you, we're going to"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "decode a message in the DNA of every"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "human on the face of this earth."}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "That message is so universal that you"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "can translate it. You can decode it into"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "any four of any one of these languages."}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "You can decode it in Arabic. You can"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "decode it in Hebrew, in Sanskrit, in"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "uniform and other ancient languages. But"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "these are the four core languages. It's"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "so universal"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "that it works in it reads exactly the"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "same in every one of these languages."}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "Now in this course for brevity I'm going"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "to use Hebrew. Many of you have studied"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "uh Cababala and you know uh Cababala you"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "know about numbers and letters in"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "Cababala. If I if I were in Cairo doing"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "this I would do it in Arabic. Same"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "thing. All right. So I just want to be"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "really clear about that."}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "When you study ancient alphabets"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "linguistics"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "there's something very interesting."}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "Every ancient alphabet has always had a"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "mysterious number that goes with every"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "letter in the alphabet. Nobody knows"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "where they came from. They never change."}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "They've always been there. And the"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "science of studying those is called"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "gumatria or gamatria. Heard it both"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "ways. I want to be clear. This is not"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "numerology."}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "Numerology is a loose unstructured"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "subset."}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "Gamatria is a science that is governed"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "by 32 rabbitical rules that were laid"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "down in the 2n century CE, common era,"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "2nd century AD. If if you're still doing"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "that"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "32 rules and if you follow those rules,"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "those rules tell us what we can do with"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "those numbers. All right, so here is"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "what I did. I took the modern way of"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "looking at life on the periodic table"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "and I took the ancient way of looking at"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "life in the ancient languages and I"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "said, \"What if they're both saying the"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "same thing?"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "What is the common link between the old"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "way and the new way of of looking?\" This"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "is what took me so long. This is"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "original research. I had to shift my"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "thinking. Very different from what I was"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "trained to do as a scientist. very"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "different from my upbringing in the"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "Midwest as a as a child. Nobody taught"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "me to think this way and that was took"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "me almost 20 years to do this. Looking"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "back, it was easy. I was kind of a slow"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "learner because I was stuck in my own"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "illusion"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "of the boundaries between the sciences."}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "So, I had to cross the boundary between"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "linguistics and these languages and"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "chemistry and genetics. I'm not a"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "geneticist. I had to do a crash course"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "and learn genetics and DNA."}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "All right? And mathematics and the"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "periodic table. All of these things."}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "Well, the bottom line is this."}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "Let me give you a couple of examples."}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "Here's the Hebrew alphabet. There's the"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "letters. There's the numbers that go"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "with it. There's the Arabic alphabet."}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "There's the letters. There's the numbers"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "that go with it. We could do the same"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "thing Sanskrit and ununiform."}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "All right. So, every letter has a number"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "that represents it. So, here's the key."}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "And this is this is what took me so"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "long."}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "The numbers that represent the ancient"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "alphabets correlate"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "with the numbers that represent the"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "elements in our bodies."}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "The n Let's say it again. The number"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "that represents the ancient letters"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "correlates with the number for the DNA,"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "the hydrogen, nitrogen, oxygen, carbon"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "in our bodies. What does that mean? It"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "means that the letters of the alphabets"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "and the DNA are interchangeable."}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "The letters of the alphabets and the"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "elements of the DNA are interchangeable"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "because they're linked by a number. All"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "right, that's the key to what we're"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "doing here. So, if that makes sense,"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "let's do it. Let's do this. Only one"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "number of the elements allows us to link"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "it to the alphabets, and that is atomic"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "mass. Atomic mass is the number. 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So all"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "I'm doing I'm saying that these two"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "information systems are equal. I'm not"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "judging one as ancient and primitive and"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "the other one is modern. All right. So"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "if I apply the rules of geomatria,"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "ancient geometria"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "to the modern periodic table, those"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "rules say that I can"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "reduce the numbers on the periodic table"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "to anything between 1 and nine. 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It's one."}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "So, here it is right there. Hydrogen"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "becomes a one. 1 plus 0 is one. Let's go"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "over here to nitrogen. Nitrogen is 14.0."}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "If you apply the rules and reduce that"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "becomes a five. You guys are awesome."}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "Oxygen 15.9."}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "You apply the rules of gamatria and all"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "of a sudden the oxygen becomes a six."}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "Carbon 12.0."}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "You apply the rules, carbon becomes a"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "three. Now, now we've got something"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "really interesting because we've applied"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "the rules of the ancient writing systems"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "to the modern periodic table and we can"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "apply the periodic table rules to the"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "ancient writing systems. We're calling"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "them equal. Now, let's build a chart."}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "Scientists like charts. So, here it is."}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "And I know I'm moving quickly because I"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "don't want to get bogged down. I want to"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "I want to get to what this means."}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "Here on the left is the elements of DNA."}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "hydrogen, nitrogen, oxygen, carbon. The"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "atomic mass reduced to the single digit"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "1 5 6 and three. All right. So now let's"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "take that. Here it is right here. No"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "mystery. That's exactly where that came"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "from. So you can do this on a napkin for"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "your family at the next dinner table and"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "they will be impressed. Okay? Or I don't"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "know, maybe think you're crazy. I don't"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "know. But you'll have fun doing it. All"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "right. Now, as I said, the DNA code, it"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "works in all these alphabets. Let's"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "let's take a look at Hebrew. Here we go"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "with Hebrew."}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "What letters in the Hebrew alphabet"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "correspond with 156 and three using the"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "32 rabbitical rules of Gumatria."}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "And what we find, there's a number 156"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "and three. And if you know Hebrew,"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "you're going to see something happen"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "here really quick."}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "What we find is hydrogen becomes a Y,"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "nitrogen becomes an H, oxygen becomes a"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "V, a VV, carbon becomes a G, a gimmel."}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "All right? And there's exactly how it"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "happened by applying those rabbitical"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "rules. We're following the rules."}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "Now, if you take that chart and you go"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "back to the stuff we're made of, let's"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "take cytosine for example. Here's"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "cytosine. It's made of hydrogen,"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "nitrogen, oxygen, carbon, five"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "hydrogens's, and I've actually spelled"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "them out there in a vertical column,"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "three nitrogens, one oxygen, four"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "carbons. You can see it right there. And"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "now the little chart tells us that for"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "every one of those elements, we can put"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "a letter in there because of the link."}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "All right? So, we put those letters in"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "there. Every hydrogen becomes a Y. Every"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "nitrogen"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "becomes an H. Oxygen becomes a V. Every"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "carbon becomes a G. A gimmel. So no"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "mystery. I want you to see exactly. No"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "hocus pocus. There's where it comes"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "from. Right there. You put that back"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "into the strand of DNA. And what you"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "have YH VG"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "YH YH."}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "All right. And you can see exactly where"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "that comes from. If you know Hebrew,"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "you're already seeing it happen right"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "here. Once again, we could do this in"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "Arabic, Sanskrit, uniform."}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "What does this mean? Right? The"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "information in our DNA is in layers."}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "Just like a book is in layers. When you"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "open that book that you have, you'll see"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "a preface and then you'll see an"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "introduction and then you'll see chapter"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "one. The information ourselves is the"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "same way. What we're decoding right now,"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "we're translating is the first layer."}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "It's the introduction"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "to the rest of the information in your"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "cell. It's brief. It is concise. It's"}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "potent. That first layer, introducing"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "the message in our cells, it literally"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "translates as two words, YHVG. And I"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "think most of you know the Hebrew"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "language. Biblical Hebrew does not use"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:22", "text": "vowels. It's a consonantbased language."}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "the vowels are implied and there are uh"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "entire texts that tell you what vowels"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "are used and where they're used. So"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "we're looking at the consonants two"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "words YH VG. The translation YH"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "literally translates into the words God"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "or eternal."}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "So in yourselves you literally have the"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "words God eternal."}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "Where is God eternal? That's the next"}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "word. 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What are ordinary"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "Russians saying about life, about the"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "war? And how has life changed since this"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "war began? And what does the front"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "really look like now? A lot of the"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "attention obviously has been shifted to"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "Iran and what's happening in the Middle"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "East, but people are still being killed"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "every day in this war. And our next"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "guest has been there to the front lines"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "of this war, not once, not twice, but 14"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "times. And our next guest has also an"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "unusual perspective. He's an American"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "living in Russia, a former US Army"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "officer, someone who has repeatedly"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "traveled to the front lines of this war"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "all over the region and has a very"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "unique perspective on life inside of"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "Russia. Joining us now is Stannislav"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "Kivnnik. Uh he joins us from Russia to"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "talk about life there. And you said I"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "could call you what?"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:22", "text": ">> Stas. Yeah, that's that's a short"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "version. So, I thought I'd give you a"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "proper name at the beginning here. Um,"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "so maybe we just start at the beginning"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "before we get into where the war sits"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "right now,"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "life inside of Russia, um, and some of"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "the propaganda that obviously we're"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "being fed in the West. Uh, maybe you can"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "give us your background as a US Army"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "officer. How did you wind up in Russia?"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "Where do you live? 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Uh so"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "all total spent uh 11 years in um got"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "out in uh 2004, middle of 2004."}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:27", "text": ">> Did you get your citizen? You got your"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "citizenship?"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:34", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. Uh back uh when I was 13 or"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "12, somewhere around there. Um guess I"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "got Yeah, I guess it was 12. Uh my"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "parents went and got it. I went to"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "school the next day. It's like here you"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "go. You're a citizen now. Um but came uh"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "me and my wife uh and the family uh"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "moved back in uh 2010. Uh so been here"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "for for the last 16 years uh watching"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "the country boom and before that uh"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "after military uh I was a director of"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "supply chain and oil and gas uh oil and"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "gas services and uh engineering"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "procurement uh uh engineering"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "procurement construction EPC for oil and"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "gas. So watched a lot of the heavy"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "industry in Russia uh come back uh get"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "renovated uh and and the economy"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "growing. So it's it's an interesting"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "perspective from the from the heavy"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "industry. You're you're watching things"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "u giant manufacturing plants are just"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "you know in horrible condition. Uh and"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "then investment starts coming in from"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "places like Gasprom Bank and you walk in"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "there 3 months later and it looks like"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "it's a brand new building that just got"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "built uh with giant facilities. Uh so"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "yeah they they there's a lot of that"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "import substitution which is helping uh"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "the Russian military now uh because of"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "the industrial base that either was"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "never left or was uh repaired and"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "brought back online."}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:58", "text": ">> Do you remember what it was like life"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "was like during when you were in the"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "Soviet Union in the late 70s and seeing"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "it seeing it now and how different it"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "is?"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "Um well yeah I I was seven when I left"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "so I do remember things uh not as"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "clearly uh obviously um but it was well"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "some things were the same uh you know"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "the Soviet Union had three television"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "channels and when we got to the US"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "there's still three television channels"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "as a kid I mean you remember these kinds"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "of things it's the silly things you"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "remember u you know obviously I had my"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "all my relatives around uh so it was"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "more uh family oriented than when we got"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "to the states because didn't have any"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "relatives in the states. Um, you know,"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "one of the things I do remember uh in in"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "the Soviet economy, I remember my father"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "uh paying a a butcher uh a bribe uh to"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "go see the real meat, not the not what"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "was on display uh because the the good"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "stuff was in the back room and you had"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "to pay extra, not the Soviet price, but"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "extra price uh to go access it and and"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "buy it. So you had this uh this kind of"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "like low level of corruption uh that was"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "everywhere uh because of shortages uh in"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "in various goods. So that that I too"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "remember that. Um but you know lived uh"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "lived in uh interesting enough in uh"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "when we first moved to the US we lived"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "in East Palestine, Ohio. Uh that's where"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "the the American Chernobyl happened. Uh"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "what back in 23 I think was the rail"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "cars that went off and then they started"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "to burn it. Um they burned the"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "chemicals. Uh and then um we moved to"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "Charlotte, North Carolina and grew up"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "there. Um so then went off to NC State."}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "What was it like for you in the ar in"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "the army as a United States, you know,"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "army officer um coming up through the"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "ranks and having this uh Soviet Union"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "background? Did uh you know, men love to"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "men love to josh each other and uh poke"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "fun at each other. That's how you know"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "you're friends with uh with guys. You"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "know, if you're not making fun of each"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "other, then you're not friends. Did you"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "get a lot of ribbing from your US Army"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "officer guys? We've got a Russian here."}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "Um yeah and and gave back as well. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "Honestly, by the time we moved back uh I"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "was uh about ready, this was in 2010"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "when we moved back, but I was about"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "ready to strangle the next person to ask"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "me if I was a communist. I'm actually a"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "monarchist. So the exact opposite of"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "that. So and a mercantalist monarchist."}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "I'm like, \"Oh jeez, I'm so sick and"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "tired of that one.\" Because everybody"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "says that when they first meet you, they"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "think they're so original. Hey, are you"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "a communist? Well, no. I've never heard"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "that one except for the last 30 years."}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "Um,"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:45", "text": ">> right. Exactly."}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:46", "text": ">> But, uh, uh, I did run into issues, not"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "so much because I was from the Soviet"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "Union, but because I'm Russian from the"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "Soviet Union. Uh, you know, I when I was"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "a cadet, well, well, first of all, when"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "I was in uh in in high school, I I was"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "wanting to just enlist and be become a"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "tanker. Uh, and the uh enlistment uh the"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "the recruiter in my high school, you're"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "Russian, they'll never let you near a"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "tank. then became an armor officer,"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "those commanding tanks. But uh when I"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "was in advance camp, which is uh a camp"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "for ROC cadets, they that's where you uh"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "they they grade you out who's going"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "where uh before your final year. U there"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "was a the 1993 at this point. The short"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "colonel for military intelligence. I"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "want to go to military intelligence."}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "Short colonel for military intelligence"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "comes in. um"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "little uh little butterball colonel uh"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "and he's you know talking with people"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "with cadets that want to become military"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "intelligence. I go up to him, you know,"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "well sir, you know, I want to be"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "interested in military intelligence. Oh"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "yeah, that's great. And we're talking"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "for a few minutes. I'm like, sir, you"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "know, I don't know if this is going to"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "be a problem. Um I'm Russian and I was"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "born in the Soviet Union. Why did I go"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "ahead and say that? Because it's going"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "to it's on your files anyways. your your"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "uh religion is on your files, your"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "nationality, place of birth, you know,"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "race, it's it's all on your files, first"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "page. So, you're not going to hide"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "anything that point, he looked at me"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "like a sack of uh told me where I can go"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "shove it. I turned around, walked off."}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "Uh you know, so many words"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "probably if it's a family audience, you"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "don't want to hear that the the full"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "description. So, that was one. Uh and"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "then when I was a captain, uh I wanted"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "to go into special forces. uh started"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "training, went up there for my interview"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "uh to go into the special forces uh"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "course and I was a captain at this point"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "so they didn't curse me out but in so"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "many words they said you know we looked"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "at your file and all that um we've got"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "Russian speakers we don't know if we can"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "get your top secret clearance thanks"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "we're not interested"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:51", "text": ">> like strictly on because you know I I"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "met uh guys from Armenia Jewish guys"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "Ukrainian whatever they had no problems"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "absolutely no problems in military"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "intelligence. I I met an Armenian guy in"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "Bosnia who's uh I was a first lieutenant"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "there. He was a first lieutenant. Um and"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "he, you know, we moved in 79. He moved"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "in ' 91 or 90. Uh I think it was 90. And"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "this is 97."}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "Uh yeah, he got top secret clearance. No"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "problem. Uh you know, that's"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:21", "text": ">> one, two, three. And and he's a citizen"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "and he's got top secret clearance."}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "standing there looking at us like"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:27", "text": ">> son of a"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:28", "text": ">> well it's pervasive this idea that you"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "know that Russia is supposed to be our"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "enemy I mean in the United States so you"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "got to grow up in the United States"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "during the 1980s seeing all of the"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "propaganda against Russia and the Soviet"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "Union in the United States I mean think"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "about you know Rocky 4 the movies like"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "Red Dawn where we're fighting the envy"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "you know"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:50", "text": ">> I remember Red Dawn real well I was in"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "fights non-stop after Red Dawn Oh, I"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "bet. So, yeah, this idea that Russia is"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "invading us and the and a group of"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "teenagers are going to save America, the"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "Wolverines against the Russian invading"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "army. And so, you know, Russia has never"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "invaded the United States, but we were"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "of course fed this steady dose of"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "propaganda. That that was going to"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "happen, that the, you know, America was"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "going to become communist as a result of"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "it. So, what was that like for you"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "growing up around that sort of"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "propaganda? You know, on the one hand, I"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "I lived half my life in the South. So, I"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "love the South, too. It's a it's like a"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "second h homeland, but man, the uh"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "especially in the 80s, the propaganda"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "was just so thick and people were so"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "ignorant at that point. You know,"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "Charlotte, uh North Carolina had a"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "population about half a million people"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "at that point. Uh there were less than"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "50 Russian speakers. I'm not saying"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "Russians necessarily, but Russian"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "speakers in the city. And you know, my"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "mother was teaching Russian in a"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "community college, Charlotte uh"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "community college. And she comes back"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "and one of after one of her first"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "lessons, she says, you know, this this"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "old woman walks up to me and asks me if"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "I'm Russian. And she's like, yeah, I'm"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "Russian. It's like, you can't be"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "Russian. Like, why? You're not red."}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:04", "text": ">> You know, physically, your skin color"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "isn't red."}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "Yeah, we're white Russians. Oh, that and"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "considering there's also two sides"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "during the Russian civil war, the green"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "Russians and the black Russians, you"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "know, just I guess that would be just"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:14", "text": ">> wow."}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "you're not ready."}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:19", "text": ">> But that's literally Yeah, it was and"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "you know and I remember psychologists"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "when when things started to open up this"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "famous locally famous psychologist he"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "goes to Russia's one of the first groups"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "of tourists uh from the US that you know"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "with Gorbachoff's prehistorica and he"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "came back and he wrote a piece in the"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "local in the Charlotte Observer uh about"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "this screwy"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "crazy country called Russia or Soviet"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "Union Soviet Russia you know they"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "normally called"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "Um, people don't speak English. The"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "alphabet doesn't look like ours. They"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "don't even have a McDonald's. Like, that"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "was right before the first McDonald's"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "open, by the way. So, it was on that"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "level. These are educated people, right?"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "And things like that. You're going, you"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "know, it's just it is what it is."}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:04", "text": ">> Despite the fact that Russia has given"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "us some of the most amazing literature"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "in world history, but okay, they need to"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "have a McDonald's in order to be"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "cultured. I get it. But yeah, this is"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "what we were dealing with in the 1980s."}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "Americans were being fed the steady diet"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "of uh rousophobia. Um and it's I think"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "it's in in many ways it's ingrained in a"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "lot of people. But I think something"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "shifted I think something shifted um"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "during this Ukrainian war and at least"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "over the past few years I've noticed"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "definitely a shift um uh people who felt"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "like they've been duped for many many"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "decades like suddenly started to awaken"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "once they realize the steady lies that"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "have been told about the Ukraine war. So"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "we'll get We'll get to that in a little"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "bit. So your your family moves to Russia"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "or you moved to Russia with your wife"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "and you decide in I think 2010 to move"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "there. So you moved there about four"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "years before really the war started. I"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "say 2014, the Maidon coup,"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:02", "text": ">> the C the CIA backed coup in Ukraine. Um"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "and up until that point, well, you know,"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "then we started seeing the slaughtering"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "of ethnic Russians in eastern Ukraine."}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "what was eastern Ukraine and Dyetsk um"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "uh and Donbas and all through that"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "region. So what was that like for you"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "moving there in 2010 um before all of"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "this started happening? Yeah, I um it's"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "hard to move out of the US because uh"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "you know I had a I was uh uh senior"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "manage supply chain manager and uh and"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "then I became a director chain. Well, I"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "at Greenfield at an office in"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "Yukarianburgg for Cameron uh to set up"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "Russian suppliers. Uh we were buying,"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "you know, I I led that initiative. Uh we"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "were buying a lot of equipment uh"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "manufacturer equipment for our different"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "manufacturing facilities all over the"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "world out of Russia because it's high"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "quality and the Chinese couldn't beat"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "the prices. It was and it would had no"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "worse quality than actually higher"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "quality than most of our western"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "suppliers. Um so set that up. We moved"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "back uh in 2010 and then that was in Kit"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "Kernburg and then in 2012 I became a"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "senior supply chain director for"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "Hallebertton over Eurasia. Uh I had"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "worked for Hallebertton before uh too."}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "So that was uh and then we moved to"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "Moscow at that point. U and it took a"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "little while to get used to it. Now I I"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "tried setting up suppliers in Ukraine"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "and this is 2010. Ukraine was in a very"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "sorry state by this point. And to"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "understand, you know, in in 1991,"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "uh the when the Soviet Union collapsed,"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "Ukraine came out of like everybody else"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "except for Russia. Ukraine came out of"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "uh the Soviet Union with zero debt"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "because uh Russia as the inheritor state"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "took all the debt of the Soviet Union no"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "matter where the money was invested. It"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "got the nuclear weapons too. The nuclear"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "weapons were always belong to the"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "inherited nation uh the so of the Soviet"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "Union which was Russia. So Ukraine never"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "had nuclear weapons. They spread that"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "lie around that, oh, we gave up our"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "weapons. He never really had them. Uh"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "but and but then the debt and everything"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "else went to Russia, too. And then uh"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "Ukraine came out in 1991 with a economy"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "uh an industrial and um scientific"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "economy on the size of France. Uh it was"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "it was well set up. The problem is is"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "everybody started stealing and it didn't"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "matter whether the uh the politicians"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "were from eastern Ukraine or western"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "Ukraine or central Ukraine they were all"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "thieves. The Ukraine has never had"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "decent politicians. That's the the curse"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "of that country. Um and they by 2010"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "most of the industry was in very sorry"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "state. Um everything had been pilered."}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "They could have pilered. They were still"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "pilfering. uh and by that point you know"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "by 2021"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "Ukraine was uh industrially or"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "economically on the level of Uganda and"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "there was a there was even a case where"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "that was said out loud in uh I don't"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "remember which news outlet and the"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "president of Uganda came out angrily"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "with a statement we don't compare us to"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "these people we're much richer than they"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "are uh so Ukraine had fallen somewhere"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "below average African nations uh and was"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "continuing to fall"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:16", "text": ">> and again it's because it absolutely"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "corrupt system. Uh I mean and they never"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "got over it. You know, Russia had that"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "corrupt system too in the '90s. Uh but"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "Russia got over it and the Russian"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "businessmen weren't there just to make a"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "quick score and get the hell out. They"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "were looking at you know their companies"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "or their life work and you know we're"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "here to to make something and and"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "contribute something. There was a very"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "different mentality uh that it was a"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "'90s mentality just never left."}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "It's interesting and and certainly the"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "US State Department has well documented"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "this corruption. So this is not"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:47", "text": ">> just your feelings about this. It's you"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "can go through the the US state"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "department's own website."}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:54", "text": ">> Um even up until the start of the war,"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "the special military operation uh the US"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "state department basically would uh"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "catalog Ukraine as one of the most"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "corrupt countries in the world for"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "exactly this reason year after year"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "after year."}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:11", "text": ">> Yep. Absolutely, Clayton. Absolutely. Uh"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "and and it you know it it if if you look"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "at Ukraine uh I remember there was even"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "an article in in Russian newspaper that"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "uh Russian uh prostitutes were"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "complaining that the Ukrainian"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "prostitutes in Russia were un under uh"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "bidding them uh because that's you know"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "Ukraine was exporting people in every"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "direction. and everybody's running if"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "they they could run they to Russia or"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "they ran to to Europe and and to do"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "whatever. Uh there was a collapse of the"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "education system. Uh there was a"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "collapse of the medical system. You"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "know, I've got relatives that that still"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "live there. Uh and it's it was just a"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "pathetic point. But eastern Ukraine, you"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "know, you know, if you go back a little"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "bit in history, uh first of all,"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "Ukraine, the word Ukraine, the core of"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "which is Cena, Ukraina, uh in uh Russian"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "or in Slavic in general, but in Russian"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "means hinterland. That literally"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "translates into hinterland. And you"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "know, we've never seen a country named"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "hinterland full of hinterlands."}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "uh that that's the edge of something you"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "know and that was the edge of uh between"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "the Russian and Polish uh civilizations"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "uh and that area"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "that was it was created by Lenon when he"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "signed the brea peace deal with the"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "Germans which he had no right to sign"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "even from the the Boleviks let alone"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "they they didn't represent all of Russia"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "they're just starting in the civil war"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "uh but he he took Mala Russia which is"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "small Russia which is a governorship"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "ship west of Kiev and Nova Russia, which"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "means new Russia, which is the"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "governorship east of Kiev. Uh, and he"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "combined those into the state that the"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "Germans were demanding that he hand"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "over. And then in 1918, the Germans"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "pulled out. Uh, and then this, well, by"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "that point, the Russian Civil War was in"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "full swing, so it went back and forth."}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "But they, the Soviets, uh, I mean,"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "Lennon was really the creator of"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "Ukraine, which is funny that they're"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "tearing his statues down. they should be"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "kissing his uh buttocks cuz he created"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "that Frankenstein entity. And then"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "Stalin later on added more territories"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "to it like Galitzia in those areas. And"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "then"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "added Crimea which is all you ethnically"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "Russian. Galitz was ethnically uh"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "Polish/Hungarian."}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "Zakarpatia was added on these uh"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "Hungarian provinces after World War II."}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "Uh so you get this hodgepodge of"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "territories that used to belong to other"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "nations. Uh and that that's what you get"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "there right now. It's uh it's a very"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "volatile mix. It's an artificial entity"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "uh that that rewrote their own history."}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "There was forced in the 20s. In fact, if"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "you go on Yandix, I'm not sure if you do"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "it on Google, if you go in Yandex and"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "then you write in Russian Ukranata"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "1920s and you hit images, you get all"}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "these uh scanned uh copies of newspaper"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "headlines from the 1920s proclaiming the"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "great success of Ukran uh Ukranization"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "of the Russian population because the"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "communists were playing this game of"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:19", "text": "divide and rule. you know, they divided"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "up the Russians, the Russian population,"}, {"start": "00:20:19", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "they created the Bellarusian population,"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "they created the Ukrainian population."}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "They were creating these subpopuls"}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "because then you divide them, it's"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "easier to rule over them. And we got"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "what we've got now."}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:36", "text": ">> So when you, as you're you're living"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "there, you're watching this unfold. You"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "see the Maidon coup unfolding in 2014."}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:44", "text": ">> What was that like for for you to see"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "what was happening in Ukraine? And were"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:47", "text": "you worried about what was going to"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "happen in Russia as a result?"}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:55", "text": ">> You know, um I remember I was driving"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "with uh two of my uh junior uh directors"}, {"start": "00:20:55", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "to see a a warehouse in the south of"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "Moscow and one of them uh uh Alexander"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "was a former major in the Soviet space"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "forces and we're driving and he's and"}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:11", "text": "this is the end of 2013. Uh he's like"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:13", "text": "Stas, what do you think is going to"}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "happen? I'm like, it's going to be a"}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "bloody civil war. That's what's going to"}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "happen. It's like, how can you say that?"}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:20", "text": "I'm like, because I know the people that"}, {"start": "00:21:17", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "are behind all of this. Uh, you know, I"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "I knew this was coming. I I looked at it"}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:26", "text": "realistically and I knew this just like"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:28", "text": "in 2001, I figured out Russia and the EU"}, {"start": "00:21:26", "end": "00:21:32", "text": "are going to have a war. Uh, and it's uh"}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "inescapable. You know, in in 2001, I was"}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "in an exchange program to the German"}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "infantry school. Uh so there was a"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "major, myself, a captain, a lieutenant,"}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:41", "text": "a bunch of sergeants and we were uh we"}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:43", "text": "had a company, a German company that was"}, {"start": "00:21:41", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "supporting us and underneath all the"}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:48", "text": "German barracks is a kniper or pub and I"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:49", "text": "speak German badly, but you know, after"}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "the third liter of beer, I speak much"}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "better. And we'd talk and I knew like"}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "sooner or later, you know, the somebody"}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "that these guys would realize I I'm in"}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "an American uniform, but I'm not an"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:01", "text": "American. I'm a Russian. Uh and I was"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "like wondering what this, you know,"}, {"start": "00:22:01", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "their reaction would be. So the biggest"}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:10", "text": "nationalist uh the staff sergeant a"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "German staff sergeant he finds out um"}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "Russian uh ethnically Russian and his"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "this is 2001 and his reaction was"}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:20", "text": "brother"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "they loved the German nationalists loved"}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "Russia because Russia and in 2001 Russia"}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "was in a horrible situ financial"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "situation was just starting to get off"}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "of its knees uh underimir"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "but they looked at Russia as an example"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:37", "text": "of a sovereign nation and they despise"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:41", "text": "the EU. I mean, this is 25 years ago."}, {"start": "00:22:37", "end": "00:22:43", "text": "Uh, and every na every localist,"}, {"start": "00:22:41", "end": "00:22:45", "text": "patriot, nationalist, whatever you want"}, {"start": "00:22:43", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "to call them, sovereignist in various"}, {"start": "00:22:45", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "European countries I've talked to, they"}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:51", "text": "all have always had the same view. They"}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "despise Brussels and they're always"}, {"start": "00:22:51", "end": "00:22:55", "text": "looking at Russia as the next door"}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:57", "text": "neighbor. That's the example of what a"}, {"start": "00:22:55", "end": "00:22:59", "text": "sovereign country should be. And at that"}, {"start": "00:22:57", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "point is when I figured out, you know,"}, {"start": "00:22:59", "end": "00:23:05", "text": "wars is inevitable. uh because the EU"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "can't absorb Russia. Russia, the EU"}, {"start": "00:23:05", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "would become Russia. It's a country of"}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:11", "text": "150 million people. It's huge. It's now"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "the fourth by PPP uh purchase power per"}, {"start": "00:23:11", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "it's the fourth largest economy in the"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:17", "text": "world, biggest economy in Europe. You"}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:19", "text": "know, they they can't absorb that, but"}, {"start": "00:23:17", "end": "00:23:21", "text": "they can't live with Russia next door"}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:22", "text": "either because everybody who hates the"}, {"start": "00:23:21", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "EU, and that's a good chunk of their"}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:26", "text": "population, are always going to be"}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:29", "text": "looking east as an example and"}, {"start": "00:23:26", "end": "00:23:32", "text": "inspiration to get rid of the EU. Uh so"}, {"start": "00:23:29", "end": "00:23:34", "text": "that that's one of those moments uh"}, {"start": "00:23:32", "end": "00:23:38", "text": "clarity you go yeah this is not"}, {"start": "00:23:34", "end": "00:23:40", "text": "escapable. Uh and you know you you watch"}, {"start": "00:23:38", "end": "00:23:43", "text": "you watch the development uh and you you"}, {"start": "00:23:40", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "you learn things like for example Poland"}, {"start": "00:23:43", "end": "00:23:49", "text": "had uh training bases for the Ukrainian"}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:50", "text": "Nazis since the '9s. uh they were"}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:52", "text": "getting them ready for this. Even though"}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:54", "text": "Poland suffered from those very same"}, {"start": "00:23:52", "end": "00:23:57", "text": "Ukrainian Nazis, you know, 40 years"}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:23:59", "text": "earlier or 50 years earlier, but they"}, {"start": "00:23:57", "end": "00:24:02", "text": "were because it was getting at Russia,"}, {"start": "00:23:59", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "they were training these unau and right"}, {"start": "00:24:02", "end": "00:24:07", "text": "sector guys inside of Poland. Uh and"}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:10", "text": "then they pushed them across the border."}, {"start": "00:24:07", "end": "00:24:13", "text": "Uh so you're looking at you understand"}, {"start": "00:24:10", "end": "00:24:15", "text": "the forces involved and you don't if you"}, {"start": "00:24:13", "end": "00:24:17", "text": "take the shades off it's like this is"}, {"start": "00:24:15", "end": "00:24:20", "text": "going to be a civil war because eastern"}, {"start": "00:24:17", "end": "00:24:22", "text": "Ukraine uh was never uh really"}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:24", "text": "ukrronized. They remained that the"}, {"start": "00:24:22", "end": "00:24:27", "text": "government signs were in Ukrainian"}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:29", "text": "everything else is strictly in Russian"}, {"start": "00:24:27", "end": "00:24:31", "text": "and themselves Russian. So, so you knew"}, {"start": "00:24:29", "end": "00:24:33", "text": "this was going to be bloody and when"}, {"start": "00:24:31", "end": "00:24:36", "text": "these Ukrainian Nazis started carrying"}, {"start": "00:24:33", "end": "00:24:38", "text": "out a genocide against the people,"}, {"start": "00:24:36", "end": "00:24:40", "text": ">> the ethnic Russians in eastern Ukraine,"}, {"start": "00:24:38", "end": "00:24:43", "text": "bombing civilian infrastructure on a"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:45", "text": "regular basis, um, and it became well"}, {"start": "00:24:43", "end": "00:24:47", "text": "documented the world. I mean, certainly"}, {"start": "00:24:45", "end": "00:24:51", "text": "people were aware of what was happening"}, {"start": "00:24:47", "end": "00:24:53", "text": "and the CIA helping to carry this out."}, {"start": "00:24:51", "end": "00:24:58", "text": ">> Was it obvious to you in Russia that the"}, {"start": "00:24:53", "end": "00:25:00", "text": "idea was to bring Russia into a war?"}, {"start": "00:24:58", "end": "00:25:03", "text": "Well, I don't think to the average"}, {"start": "00:25:00", "end": "00:25:04", "text": "Russian that was obvious. Uh, you know,"}, {"start": "00:25:03", "end": "00:25:08", "text": "one of the big reasons that I left the"}, {"start": "00:25:04", "end": "00:25:10", "text": "US military, uh, is, uh, as a captain, I"}, {"start": "00:25:08", "end": "00:25:13", "text": "was, uh, in 18th Airborne Corps"}, {"start": "00:25:10", "end": "00:25:16", "text": "headquarters, Dragon Brigade, and I was"}, {"start": "00:25:13", "end": "00:25:19", "text": "in G3 operations. And at that level, you"}, {"start": "00:25:16", "end": "00:25:22", "text": "start to see at least part of the big"}, {"start": "00:25:19", "end": "00:25:24", "text": "picture. Uh, so while Bush Jr. is"}, {"start": "00:25:22", "end": "00:25:26", "text": "looking into Putin's eyes and saying, \"I"}, {"start": "00:25:24", "end": "00:25:28", "text": "saw his soul and we can work together.\""}, {"start": "00:25:26", "end": "00:25:30", "text": "uh the US military is preparing for war"}, {"start": "00:25:28", "end": "00:25:32", "text": "with Russia. That was the the only"}, {"start": "00:25:30", "end": "00:25:35", "text": "exception on that was when we were"}, {"start": "00:25:32", "end": "00:25:37", "text": "preparing for war with uh Iraq,"}, {"start": "00:25:35", "end": "00:25:38", "text": "preparing the invasion of Baghdad. Other"}, {"start": "00:25:37", "end": "00:25:40", "text": "than that, it was all the exercises,"}, {"start": "00:25:38", "end": "00:25:43", "text": "everything was always aimed at Russia."}, {"start": "00:25:40", "end": "00:25:46", "text": "Uh we had the the decision matrices were"}, {"start": "00:25:43", "end": "00:25:48", "text": "based off of profile CIA gathered"}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:50", "text": "profiles of Russian generals uh and so"}, {"start": "00:25:48", "end": "00:25:53", "text": "on and so on. Everything was geared"}, {"start": "00:25:50", "end": "00:25:54", "text": "toward war. Now up to 99 most people"}, {"start": "00:25:53", "end": "00:25:56", "text": "thought Russia was going to collapse on"}, {"start": "00:25:54", "end": "00:25:58", "text": "its own and and it was heading that way"}, {"start": "00:25:56", "end": "00:26:01", "text": "until this uh guy by the name of"}, {"start": "00:25:58", "end": "00:26:04", "text": "Vladimir shows up and he was supposed to"}, {"start": "00:26:01", "end": "00:26:05", "text": "be a younger version sober version of"}, {"start": "00:26:04", "end": "00:26:07", "text": "Yelson and continue selling everything"}, {"start": "00:26:05", "end": "00:26:11", "text": "off giving everything away and"}, {"start": "00:26:07", "end": "00:26:13", "text": "collapsing Russia. Uh well you he"}, {"start": "00:26:11", "end": "00:26:14", "text": "slightly pulled the wool over the"}, {"start": "00:26:13", "end": "00:26:16", "text": "oligarchs and and the western eyes and"}, {"start": "00:26:14", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "turned out to be quite the opposite of"}, {"start": "00:26:16", "end": "00:26:19", "text": "that. But that that was the situation."}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:21", "text": "And so after that everything got a"}, {"start": "00:26:19", "end": "00:26:24", "text": "little more serious and oh wait a minute"}, {"start": "00:26:21", "end": "00:26:26", "text": "something went wrong. Uh so that that"}, {"start": "00:26:24", "end": "00:26:30", "text": "that's from one point but the majority"}, {"start": "00:26:26", "end": "00:26:33", "text": "of Russian population honestly speaking"}, {"start": "00:26:30", "end": "00:26:35", "text": "um they I mean Russia wasn't looking for"}, {"start": "00:26:33", "end": "00:26:36", "text": "war. It still isn't looking for war."}, {"start": "00:26:35", "end": "00:26:39", "text": "It's it's inevitable it's going to have"}, {"start": "00:26:36", "end": "00:26:42", "text": "a war with the EU. EU's dead set"}, {"start": "00:26:39", "end": "00:26:44", "text": "insanely dead set on war and everybody's"}, {"start": "00:26:42", "end": "00:26:46", "text": "now pretty much so accepted that fact at"}, {"start": "00:26:44", "end": "00:26:48", "text": "least on this side of the border. Uh but"}, {"start": "00:26:46", "end": "00:26:52", "text": "nobody was looking for war. uh they were"}, {"start": "00:26:48", "end": "00:26:55", "text": "actually you know the events of 2022"}, {"start": "00:26:52", "end": "00:26:58", "text": "uh and 2023 even that uh that just river"}, {"start": "00:26:55", "end": "00:27:00", "text": "of of rousophobic hatred it's not even"}, {"start": "00:26:58", "end": "00:27:02", "text": "rousophobia it's just pure hatred that"}, {"start": "00:27:00", "end": "00:27:05", "text": "uh was just a shock for most of the"}, {"start": "00:27:02", "end": "00:27:08", "text": "population in Russia you know cancelling"}, {"start": "00:27:05", "end": "00:27:10", "text": "Russian culture this that uh and it was"}, {"start": "00:27:08", "end": "00:27:11", "text": "it was just an absolute shock they were"}, {"start": "00:27:10", "end": "00:27:15", "text": "still thinking that they could become"}, {"start": "00:27:11", "end": "00:27:16", "text": "part of the west uh I mean what most"}, {"start": "00:27:15", "end": "00:27:18", "text": "people don't understand because the"}, {"start": "00:27:16", "end": "00:27:20", "text": "stereotype is Russia is this evil empire"}, {"start": "00:27:18", "end": "00:27:22", "text": "that wants to gobble everyone up. You"}, {"start": "00:27:20", "end": "00:27:24", "text": "know, the League of Nations, the"}, {"start": "00:27:22", "end": "00:27:28", "text": "precursor to the EU, I mean, I'm sorry,"}, {"start": "00:27:24", "end": "00:27:30", "text": "to the UN. Uh, the League of Nations was"}, {"start": "00:27:28", "end": "00:27:33", "text": "first suggested and pushed by Zar"}, {"start": "00:27:30", "end": "00:27:37", "text": "Nicholas II in the 1880s. Uh, Russia was"}, {"start": "00:27:33", "end": "00:27:41", "text": "trying to create a security structure"}, {"start": "00:27:37", "end": "00:27:42", "text": "for Europe to avoid European wars. And"}, {"start": "00:27:41", "end": "00:27:45", "text": "you know, the same thing by the way that"}, {"start": "00:27:42", "end": "00:27:47", "text": "Vladimir Vladimir is proposing in 21. Uh"}, {"start": "00:27:45", "end": "00:27:49", "text": "so for 140 years Russia was trying to"}, {"start": "00:27:47", "end": "00:27:53", "text": "set up some kind of structure not to"}, {"start": "00:27:49", "end": "00:27:55", "text": "have wars in Europe. In fact in uh 1948"}, {"start": "00:27:53", "end": "00:27:57", "text": "uh Stalin was asking to join NATO which"}, {"start": "00:27:55", "end": "00:27:59", "text": "was just being formed. NATO was formed"}, {"start": "00:27:57", "end": "00:28:02", "text": "in 49. The Warsaw pact was a couple of"}, {"start": "00:27:59", "end": "00:28:04", "text": "years later as a response. Stalin was"}, {"start": "00:28:02", "end": "00:28:06", "text": "asking to join NATO cuz he wanted a uh"}, {"start": "00:28:04", "end": "00:28:08", "text": "security structure so there wouldn't be"}, {"start": "00:28:06", "end": "00:28:10", "text": "any more wars in Europe. So we you did"}, {"start": "00:28:08", "end": "00:28:13", "text": "not want any more wars in Europe. uh not"}, {"start": "00:28:10", "end": "00:28:17", "text": "after 27 million uh killed uh military"}, {"start": "00:28:13", "end": "00:28:21", "text": "and civilian uh in uh 20ou in 1992"}, {"start": "00:28:17", "end": "00:28:24", "text": "Yelson asked to join uh NATO in 2000"}, {"start": "00:28:21", "end": "00:28:26", "text": "Putin asked to join NATO. Uh and oh we"}, {"start": "00:28:24", "end": "00:28:29", "text": "know how everything went. Uh so Russia's"}, {"start": "00:28:26", "end": "00:28:31", "text": "been for 140 years Russia's been trying"}, {"start": "00:28:29", "end": "00:28:33", "text": "to put up a structure that would avoid"}, {"start": "00:28:31", "end": "00:28:34", "text": "wars in Europe but we got two world wars"}, {"start": "00:28:33", "end": "00:28:38", "text": "and we're looking like a third one"}, {"start": "00:28:34", "end": "00:28:40", "text": "coming up uh unfortunately. So that's"}, {"start": "00:28:38", "end": "00:28:42", "text": "not what the stereotypes say."}, {"start": "00:28:40", "end": "00:28:45", "text": ">> Yeah. And that's what your perspective"}, {"start": "00:28:42", "end": "00:28:48", "text": "in Moscow says. I mean and and it's"}, {"start": "00:28:45", "end": "00:28:53", "text": "clear from all the warning signs from"}, {"start": "00:28:48", "end": "00:28:56", "text": "Germany to Poland across the EU seems"}, {"start": "00:28:53", "end": "00:28:59", "text": "hell even in even in Britain seems"}, {"start": "00:28:56", "end": "00:29:01", "text": "hellbent on going to war with Russia uh"}, {"start": "00:28:59", "end": "00:29:04", "text": "for whatever insane reason. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:29:01", "end": "00:29:06", "text": "Germany is collapsing under its own"}, {"start": "00:29:04", "end": "00:29:08", "text": "ridiculous manufacturing and energy"}, {"start": "00:29:06", "end": "00:29:11", "text": "policies and and yet they think a"}, {"start": "00:29:08", "end": "00:29:12", "text": "wartime economy is the way maybe to spur"}, {"start": "00:29:11", "end": "00:29:13", "text": "growth."}, {"start": "00:29:12", "end": "00:29:16", "text": ">> When do you think that this is going to"}, {"start": "00:29:13", "end": "00:29:18", "text": "happen? Do you are the average Russian"}, {"start": "00:29:16", "end": "00:29:20", "text": "worried that this is something that's"}, {"start": "00:29:18", "end": "00:29:22", "text": "going to happen in the next year to two"}, {"start": "00:29:20", "end": "00:29:24", "text": "years?"}, {"start": "00:29:22", "end": "00:29:27", "text": ">> I mean, the Russians don't want the war,"}, {"start": "00:29:24", "end": "00:29:29", "text": "but you know, the thing about Russians,"}, {"start": "00:29:27", "end": "00:29:31", "text": "uh, you can't really scare Russians with"}, {"start": "00:29:29", "end": "00:29:34", "text": "war. It's it's it's a separate"}, {"start": "00:29:31", "end": "00:29:35", "text": "mentality. For one, um you know, the"}, {"start": "00:29:34", "end": "00:29:39", "text": "first time we were invaded by"}, {"start": "00:29:35", "end": "00:29:42", "text": "panuropeans was in 1,2 AD. So for a"}, {"start": "00:29:39", "end": "00:29:45", "text": "thousand 14 years, we've been getting"}, {"start": "00:29:42", "end": "00:29:47", "text": "steadily invaded every at least once"}, {"start": "00:29:45", "end": "00:29:50", "text": "every one or two generations uh by"}, {"start": "00:29:47", "end": "00:29:52", "text": "Westerners uh ganging up together and"}, {"start": "00:29:50", "end": "00:29:54", "text": "let's go have a a quick run into Russia."}, {"start": "00:29:52", "end": "00:29:56", "text": "I don't know why they keep doing it, but"}, {"start": "00:29:54", "end": "00:29:58", "text": "uh we we keep destroying them, but they"}, {"start": "00:29:56", "end": "00:30:01", "text": "don't seem to learn. Um I mean Poland"}, {"start": "00:29:58", "end": "00:30:04", "text": "has taken Moscow twice before back in"}, {"start": "00:30:01", "end": "00:30:06", "text": "the 16 in the early 1600s and the second"}, {"start": "00:30:04", "end": "00:30:08", "text": "time they were cannibalizing the"}, {"start": "00:30:06", "end": "00:30:12", "text": "population when they were besieged by"}, {"start": "00:30:08", "end": "00:30:14", "text": "two Russian uh people's armies uh men"}, {"start": "00:30:12", "end": "00:30:17", "text": "and Parski that raised up these two"}, {"start": "00:30:14", "end": "00:30:19", "text": "armies and surrounded Moscow uh with a"}, {"start": "00:30:17", "end": "00:30:21", "text": "Polish garrison inside and destroyed"}, {"start": "00:30:19", "end": "00:30:22", "text": "another Polish army. But even these"}, {"start": "00:30:21", "end": "00:30:24", "text": "armies weren't just strictly Polish."}, {"start": "00:30:22", "end": "00:30:26", "text": "They had lots of other European"}, {"start": "00:30:24", "end": "00:30:28", "text": "contingents, mercenaries, volunteers,"}, {"start": "00:30:26", "end": "00:30:30", "text": "and so on. So, we've been facing this"}, {"start": "00:30:28", "end": "00:30:32", "text": "for a thousand years, and it's ingrained"}, {"start": "00:30:30", "end": "00:30:34", "text": "in Russian culture. We're not looking"}, {"start": "00:30:32", "end": "00:30:36", "text": "for a fight, but they keep bring it to"}, {"start": "00:30:34", "end": "00:30:38", "text": "us. So, okay, fine. We'll fight. Uh, and"}, {"start": "00:30:36", "end": "00:30:39", "text": "that's, I think, the mentality in most"}, {"start": "00:30:38", "end": "00:30:42", "text": "of the men. I mean, the ones that want"}, {"start": "00:30:39", "end": "00:30:44", "text": "to run already ran. Uh, those are the"}, {"start": "00:30:42", "end": "00:30:46", "text": "ones, by the way, that were supposed to"}, {"start": "00:30:44", "end": "00:30:48", "text": "create a liberal revolution in Russia,"}, {"start": "00:30:46", "end": "00:30:50", "text": "the West was counting on. They all ran"}, {"start": "00:30:48", "end": "00:30:51", "text": "out of the country the first chance they"}, {"start": "00:30:50", "end": "00:30:53", "text": "had. So, like, okay, so we got rid of"}, {"start": "00:30:51", "end": "00:30:57", "text": "them. the the the fifth column, a good"}, {"start": "00:30:53", "end": "00:30:58", "text": "chunk of it just left. Um, you know,"}, {"start": "00:30:57", "end": "00:31:00", "text": ">> what is life like? What is life like? I"}, {"start": "00:30:58", "end": "00:31:02", "text": "mean, given that now that you've seen"}, {"start": "00:31:00", "end": "00:31:04", "text": "this man manufacturing boom, you talk"}, {"start": "00:31:02", "end": "00:31:06", "text": "about the economy, the Americans and,"}, {"start": "00:31:04", "end": "00:31:08", "text": "you know, the European press have said,"}, {"start": "00:31:06", "end": "00:31:11", "text": "I mean, I lived in Europe at the start"}, {"start": "00:31:08", "end": "00:31:13", "text": "of this war and to read the Portuguese"}, {"start": "00:31:11", "end": "00:31:17", "text": "press to read what was coming out of"}, {"start": "00:31:13", "end": "00:31:20", "text": "Brussels was Russia is collapsing. They"}, {"start": "00:31:17", "end": "00:31:22", "text": "are having to scrap scrge for parts to"}, {"start": "00:31:20", "end": "00:31:24", "text": "even put their missiles together. it was"}, {"start": "00:31:22", "end": "00:31:25", "text": "so bad, which was all a lie, but it was"}, {"start": "00:31:24", "end": "00:31:28", "text": "this was the kind of propaganda that was"}, {"start": "00:31:25", "end": "00:31:30", "text": "being pushed that Putin was dying of"}, {"start": "00:31:28", "end": "00:31:32", "text": "cancer, that they had to, you know, dig"}, {"start": "00:31:30", "end": "00:31:33", "text": "through the garbage to find part, you"}, {"start": "00:31:32", "end": "00:31:35", "text": "know, machine parts in order to build"}, {"start": "00:31:33", "end": "00:31:38", "text": "their missiles. Um, all of these things"}, {"start": "00:31:35", "end": "00:31:40", "text": "were just hilarious lies um to those who"}, {"start": "00:31:38", "end": "00:31:42", "text": "weren't informed about it. But what is"}, {"start": "00:31:40", "end": "00:31:43", "text": "life like now for Russians? Before I"}, {"start": "00:31:42", "end": "00:31:45", "text": "want to talk about the front and what's"}, {"start": "00:31:43", "end": "00:31:48", "text": "going on with Ukraine, but just the a,"}, {"start": "00:31:45", "end": "00:31:50", "text": "you know, average daily life uh for"}, {"start": "00:31:48", "end": "00:31:52", "text": "Russians right now, gas prices, food"}, {"start": "00:31:50", "end": "00:31:54", "text": "prices, uh, you know, just"}, {"start": "00:31:52", "end": "00:31:56", "text": "entertainment, just what does, what does"}, {"start": "00:31:54", "end": "00:32:00", "text": "that look like? Grocery stores,"}, {"start": "00:31:56", "end": "00:32:03", "text": ">> um, well, first of all, um, prices,"}, {"start": "00:32:00", "end": "00:32:05", "text": "well, yeah, the threat of sanctions was"}, {"start": "00:32:03", "end": "00:32:08", "text": "much worse than sanctions. Much much"}, {"start": "00:32:05", "end": "00:32:11", "text": "worse. uh you know when I was a a"}, {"start": "00:32:08", "end": "00:32:13", "text": "lieutenant uh when I had uh or uh when I"}, {"start": "00:32:11", "end": "00:32:15", "text": "had some private that screwed up a new"}, {"start": "00:32:13", "end": "00:32:17", "text": "private screwed up on a on a Thursday or"}, {"start": "00:32:15", "end": "00:32:19", "text": "Friday I tell them you know I'll see you"}, {"start": "00:32:17", "end": "00:32:21", "text": "in my office first thing Monday morning"}, {"start": "00:32:19", "end": "00:32:23", "text": "and since they weren't experienced they"}, {"start": "00:32:21", "end": "00:32:24", "text": "would torture themselves mentally much"}, {"start": "00:32:23", "end": "00:32:27", "text": "worse than what anything I could"}, {"start": "00:32:24", "end": "00:32:28", "text": "actually do to them by by legal"}, {"start": "00:32:27", "end": "00:32:30", "text": "authority because they didn't know any"}, {"start": "00:32:28", "end": "00:32:32", "text": "better right well sanctions was the same"}, {"start": "00:32:30", "end": "00:32:33", "text": "thing people were torturing themselves"}, {"start": "00:32:32", "end": "00:32:35", "text": "oh my god we're going to be under"}, {"start": "00:32:33", "end": "00:32:38", "text": "sanctions what are we going to do and"}, {"start": "00:32:35", "end": "00:32:41", "text": "then when sanctions hit and they go,"}, {"start": "00:32:38", "end": "00:32:43", "text": "\"That's it. Seriously?\" So, you know,"}, {"start": "00:32:41", "end": "00:32:46", "text": "when the EU is announcing the 21st, the"}, {"start": "00:32:43", "end": "00:32:47", "text": "20th, the 21st packet of sanctions, it"}, {"start": "00:32:46", "end": "00:32:50", "text": "barely hits the news. It was like,"}, {"start": "00:32:47", "end": "00:32:52", "text": "\"Yeah, whatever.\" You know, it's Yeah."}, {"start": "00:32:50", "end": "00:32:55", "text": "Okay. Life goes on. We're not afraid."}, {"start": "00:32:52", "end": "00:32:58", "text": "And, you know, Russia feeds a third of"}, {"start": "00:32:55", "end": "00:33:01", "text": "the world. Uh, Russia is Russian"}, {"start": "00:32:58", "end": "00:33:04", "text": "production uh is GMO free, by the way."}, {"start": "00:33:01", "end": "00:33:07", "text": "GMOs are legally banned by well banned"}, {"start": "00:33:04", "end": "00:33:10", "text": "by law. Uh so they're illegal. They're"}, {"start": "00:33:07", "end": "00:33:11", "text": "illegal in Russian food. Bill Gates must"}, {"start": "00:33:10", "end": "00:33:13", "text": "hate you guys."}, {"start": "00:33:11", "end": "00:33:15", "text": ">> Oh yeah, Monsanto despises us,"}, {"start": "00:33:13", "end": "00:33:18", "text": "especially since a lot of that territory"}, {"start": "00:33:15", "end": "00:33:19", "text": "that's now been liberated. Uh these are"}, {"start": "00:33:18", "end": "00:33:21", "text": "old Russian provinces returning to"}, {"start": "00:33:19", "end": "00:33:23", "text": "Russia. They're all bought up by"}, {"start": "00:33:21", "end": "00:33:25", "text": "Monsanto and other companies like that."}, {"start": "00:33:23", "end": "00:33:28", "text": "So yeah, they're really not happy. Uh"}, {"start": "00:33:25", "end": "00:33:29", "text": "their investment just went away. Uh, of"}, {"start": "00:33:28", "end": "00:33:30", "text": "course now you got to clean up the mines"}, {"start": "00:33:29", "end": "00:33:34", "text": "and the shells and everything else out"}, {"start": "00:33:30", "end": "00:33:35", "text": "of it, but it's doable. Um, the the"}, {"start": "00:33:34", "end": "00:33:38", "text": "average I mean Russia did have"}, {"start": "00:33:35", "end": "00:33:41", "text": "inflation. Absolutely. But the economy"}, {"start": "00:33:38", "end": "00:33:43", "text": "uh the first couple years was booming uh"}, {"start": "00:33:41", "end": "00:33:47", "text": "very hard. The only reason last year the"}, {"start": "00:33:43", "end": "00:33:50", "text": "economy hit uh about 1 and a.5% growth"}, {"start": "00:33:47", "end": "00:33:51", "text": "instead of the uh the 3 4% growth is"}, {"start": "00:33:50", "end": "00:33:53", "text": "because of the central bank. I'm not a"}, {"start": "00:33:51", "end": "00:33:56", "text": "I'm not you I've studied economics. I"}, {"start": "00:33:53", "end": "00:33:59", "text": "got a minor degree in economics with"}, {"start": "00:33:56", "end": "00:34:01", "text": "along with my my MBA and uh my business"}, {"start": "00:33:59", "end": "00:34:04", "text": "degree in also got a computer science"}, {"start": "00:34:01", "end": "00:34:06", "text": "degree. So to understand some technology"}, {"start": "00:34:04", "end": "00:34:08", "text": "um I don't believe in central banks"}, {"start": "00:34:06", "end": "00:34:10", "text": "honestly. Uh you know put bankers in"}, {"start": "00:34:08", "end": "00:34:12", "text": "charge of the money is like putting in"}, {"start": "00:34:10", "end": "00:34:15", "text": "my view putting an alcoholic in charge"}, {"start": "00:34:12", "end": "00:34:18", "text": "of the uh you know of the of the liquor"}, {"start": "00:34:15", "end": "00:34:20", "text": ">> liquor store. Yeah. Don't don't steal."}, {"start": "00:34:18", "end": "00:34:24", "text": "Don't be honest you know."}, {"start": "00:34:20", "end": "00:34:26", "text": "But uh having said that, they were"}, {"start": "00:34:24", "end": "00:34:29", "text": "fighting inflation. So they upped rates"}, {"start": "00:34:26", "end": "00:34:31", "text": "so high that it strangled the economy"}, {"start": "00:34:29", "end": "00:34:33", "text": "last year. Uh and then they had to start"}, {"start": "00:34:31", "end": "00:34:36", "text": "releasing rates because uh by August"}, {"start": "00:34:33", "end": "00:34:39", "text": "they had less than 1% growth. Uh and the"}, {"start": "00:34:36", "end": "00:34:41", "text": "president said the aim is 3 to 4%"}, {"start": "00:34:39", "end": "00:34:45", "text": "growth. So they released uh started"}, {"start": "00:34:41", "end": "00:34:48", "text": "dropping interest rates. Uh and then uh"}, {"start": "00:34:45", "end": "00:34:50", "text": "that spurred growth, but they only wind"}, {"start": "00:34:48", "end": "00:34:51", "text": "up with a 1 and a.5% growth rate. So it"}, {"start": "00:34:50", "end": "00:34:54", "text": "looks like this year they're still"}, {"start": "00:34:51", "end": "00:34:56", "text": "lowering the interest rates cuz you know"}, {"start": "00:34:54", "end": "00:34:58", "text": "there's two ways to fight inflation. One"}, {"start": "00:34:56", "end": "00:35:00", "text": "way is to just strangle the economy. You"}, {"start": "00:34:58", "end": "00:35:01", "text": "know it's just you know somebody's has a"}, {"start": "00:35:00", "end": "00:35:05", "text": "fever. If you kill them they no longer"}, {"start": "00:35:01", "end": "00:35:07", "text": "have a fever. Their temperature drops or"}, {"start": "00:35:05", "end": "00:35:09", "text": "you could spur the economy so you have a"}, {"start": "00:35:07", "end": "00:35:12", "text": "lot of competition and then that lowers"}, {"start": "00:35:09", "end": "00:35:14", "text": "prices and inflation. Uh finance guys"}, {"start": "00:35:12", "end": "00:35:16", "text": "really don't understand economics. They"}, {"start": "00:35:14", "end": "00:35:19", "text": "just understand their little tables. Uh"}, {"start": "00:35:16", "end": "00:35:21", "text": "and they yeah they overdid it like"}, {"start": "00:35:19", "end": "00:35:23", "text": "finance guys tend to overdo it. Uh they"}, {"start": "00:35:21", "end": "00:35:28", "text": "overdid it with the uh with the interest"}, {"start": "00:35:23", "end": "00:35:31", "text": "rates uh spike. So that's overall though"}, {"start": "00:35:28", "end": "00:35:34", "text": "um you know Russia Russia is still in"}, {"start": "00:35:31", "end": "00:35:37", "text": "desperate need of additional engineers,"}, {"start": "00:35:34", "end": "00:35:40", "text": "carpenters, uh you know plumbers, uh"}, {"start": "00:35:37", "end": "00:35:44", "text": "factory workers because there's just not"}, {"start": "00:35:40", "end": "00:35:46", "text": "enough people uh out of it's you know"}, {"start": "00:35:44", "end": "00:35:49", "text": "it's not hard to find a job uh for any"}, {"start": "00:35:46", "end": "00:35:52", "text": "of this. So and and well- paid jobs well"}, {"start": "00:35:49", "end": "00:35:54", "text": "by Russian uh standards well paid"}, {"start": "00:35:52", "end": "00:35:56", "text": "overall. you know there there were some"}, {"start": "00:35:54", "end": "00:35:57", "text": "difficulties some things disappeared"}, {"start": "00:35:56", "end": "00:35:59", "text": "from the market but the Russian uh"}, {"start": "00:35:57", "end": "00:36:00", "text": "companies pretty quickly came in and"}, {"start": "00:35:59", "end": "00:36:03", "text": "just started manufacturing things the"}, {"start": "00:36:00", "end": "00:36:05", "text": "same way and as far as western companies"}, {"start": "00:36:03", "end": "00:36:06", "text": "you know 70% of them never left no the"}, {"start": "00:36:05", "end": "00:36:09", "text": "Germans almost all left they're they're"}, {"start": "00:36:06", "end": "00:36:13", "text": "fools uh but most of except for BASF"}, {"start": "00:36:09", "end": "00:36:15", "text": "BASF told Schulz to go bounce when he"}, {"start": "00:36:13", "end": "00:36:17", "text": "told them uh to close their giant"}, {"start": "00:36:15", "end": "00:36:18", "text": "chemical plant in Russia saying no we"}, {"start": "00:36:17", "end": "00:36:21", "text": "won't and in fact they've closed their"}, {"start": "00:36:18", "end": "00:36:23", "text": "giant chemical plant in Germany and a"}, {"start": "00:36:21", "end": "00:36:27", "text": "new one in China so they have a Russian"}, {"start": "00:36:23", "end": "00:36:28", "text": "one and a China one. Uh but most of the"}, {"start": "00:36:27", "end": "00:36:30", "text": "other companies never left. They just"}, {"start": "00:36:28", "end": "00:36:32", "text": "renamed themselves"}, {"start": "00:36:30", "end": "00:36:34", "text": ">> or they kind of sold themselves."}, {"start": "00:36:32", "end": "00:36:36", "text": "Hallebertton's a prime example. Uh you"}, {"start": "00:36:34", "end": "00:36:38", "text": "know, Hallebertton, they spun off"}, {"start": "00:36:36", "end": "00:36:40", "text": "Russian operations and called it burst"}, {"start": "00:36:38", "end": "00:36:43", "text": "service. Uh they took three guys and"}, {"start": "00:36:40", "end": "00:36:45", "text": "made them the owners. I know the couple"}, {"start": "00:36:43", "end": "00:36:48", "text": "of the two of these guys that worked"}, {"start": "00:36:45", "end": "00:36:51", "text": "with them. um they gave him 5% of the"}, {"start": "00:36:48", "end": "00:36:52", "text": "stock and the other 95% of the stock is"}, {"start": "00:36:51", "end": "00:36:56", "text": "still in Houston in Hallebertton's"}, {"start": "00:36:52", "end": "00:36:58", "text": "hands. So it's an independent company."}, {"start": "00:36:56", "end": "00:37:00", "text": "Uh McDonald's sold itself off and it had"}, {"start": "00:36:58", "end": "00:37:03", "text": "huge operations, manufacturing"}, {"start": "00:37:00", "end": "00:37:05", "text": "facilities, everything uh in Russia to"}, {"start": "00:37:03", "end": "00:37:07", "text": "one of the Russian uh"}, {"start": "00:37:05", "end": "00:37:09", "text": "businessmen, but they have a contract"}, {"start": "00:37:07", "end": "00:37:13", "text": "that allows them to buy everything back"}, {"start": "00:37:09", "end": "00:37:14", "text": "on the d on the spot for 18 years. So"}, {"start": "00:37:13", "end": "00:37:16", "text": "anytime during 18 years they can just"}, {"start": "00:37:14", "end": "00:37:18", "text": "turn around market value buy everything"}, {"start": "00:37:16", "end": "00:37:21", "text": "back. We're back and they just last year"}, {"start": "00:37:18", "end": "00:37:23", "text": "reregistered their trademarks in Russia."}, {"start": "00:37:21", "end": "00:37:25", "text": "The obvious obviously"}, {"start": "00:37:23", "end": "00:37:27", "text": ">> in the Western press the idea was I"}, {"start": "00:37:25", "end": "00:37:28", "text": "remember the headlines. We covered it on"}, {"start": "00:37:27", "end": "00:37:30", "text": "our show was all of these American"}, {"start": "00:37:28", "end": "00:37:32", "text": "companies are leaving. McDonald's is"}, {"start": "00:37:30", "end": "00:37:34", "text": "closing down. All of these companies are"}, {"start": "00:37:32", "end": "00:37:35", "text": "leaving. It turns out no. Uh they were"}, {"start": "00:37:34", "end": "00:37:38", "text": "just renaming themselves and they"}, {"start": "00:37:35", "end": "00:37:39", "text": "weren't going anywhere. That's that's"}, {"start": "00:37:38", "end": "00:37:42", "text": "hilarious."}, {"start": "00:37:39", "end": "00:37:44", "text": ">> It is. uh the automobile companies left"}, {"start": "00:37:42", "end": "00:37:47", "text": "uh and they were mostly German uh and"}, {"start": "00:37:44", "end": "00:37:50", "text": "some French companies uh that were non"}, {"start": "00:37:47", "end": "00:37:52", "text": "that their Russian subsidiaries or their"}, {"start": "00:37:50", "end": "00:37:55", "text": "Russian that they had bought that were"}, {"start": "00:37:52", "end": "00:37:57", "text": "old Soviet they obviously stayed and but"}, {"start": "00:37:55", "end": "00:37:59", "text": "the state forced them because they they"}, {"start": "00:37:57", "end": "00:38:01", "text": "tried to sabotage the economy early on."}, {"start": "00:37:59", "end": "00:38:02", "text": "They just closed their factories. So the"}, {"start": "00:38:01", "end": "00:38:03", "text": "state came in and said, \"Okay, well"}, {"start": "00:38:02", "end": "00:38:05", "text": "since you're sabotaging the economy,"}, {"start": "00:38:03", "end": "00:38:08", "text": "you're no longer have a right to these"}, {"start": "00:38:05", "end": "00:38:10", "text": "factories. sell them or we confiscate"}, {"start": "00:38:08", "end": "00:38:12", "text": "them and resell them ourselves. So they"}, {"start": "00:38:10", "end": "00:38:14", "text": "some got sold, some got confiscated,"}, {"start": "00:38:12", "end": "00:38:15", "text": "resold to to Russian businesses or"}, {"start": "00:38:14", "end": "00:38:18", "text": "Chinese businesses or some other"}, {"start": "00:38:15", "end": "00:38:21", "text": "companies and they went back online"}, {"start": "00:38:18", "end": "00:38:23", "text": "within about a half a year a year max."}, {"start": "00:38:21", "end": "00:38:26", "text": "Uh plus new companies are opening up uh"}, {"start": "00:38:23", "end": "00:38:28", "text": "and and the only you know Russia's got"}, {"start": "00:38:26", "end": "00:38:32", "text": "this curse. We can make space stations."}, {"start": "00:38:28", "end": "00:38:34", "text": "We make great uh super trains. The new"}, {"start": "00:38:32", "end": "00:38:36", "text": "line to uh St. Petersburg is going to be"}, {"start": "00:38:34", "end": "00:38:39", "text": "open in two years. that's going to go"}, {"start": "00:38:36", "end": "00:38:42", "text": "500 km or 300 m an hour super train that"}, {"start": "00:38:39", "end": "00:38:43", "text": "you know California can't ever build. Um"}, {"start": "00:38:42", "end": "00:38:45", "text": "you things like that. We can do all that"}, {"start": "00:38:43", "end": "00:38:47", "text": "but we can't build normal cars. I don't"}, {"start": "00:38:45", "end": "00:38:49", "text": "know why. It's just"}, {"start": "00:38:47", "end": "00:38:50", "text": ">> so that that's kind of"}, {"start": "00:38:49", "end": "00:38:52", "text": ">> you hear about buying Russian cars."}, {"start": "00:38:50", "end": "00:38:53", "text": "Yeah. Stay away from buying Russian"}, {"start": "00:38:52", "end": "00:38:54", "text": "cars."}, {"start": "00:38:53", "end": "00:38:56", "text": ">> Um"}, {"start": "00:38:54", "end": "00:38:59", "text": ">> so overall, yeah, it wasn't a big it"}, {"start": "00:38:56", "end": "00:39:01", "text": "wasn't a big hit. Uh it just"}, {"start": "00:38:59", "end": "00:39:04", "text": ">> when you hear you know in the in the"}, {"start": "00:39:01", "end": "00:39:06", "text": "west the neocons in Washington DC love"}, {"start": "00:39:04", "end": "00:39:08", "text": "to refer you get you know Senator"}, {"start": "00:39:06", "end": "00:39:09", "text": "Lindsey Graham or others love to go on"}, {"start": "00:39:08", "end": "00:39:12", "text": "television and tell tell the American"}, {"start": "00:39:09", "end": "00:39:13", "text": "people why we need to go to war with"}, {"start": "00:39:12", "end": "00:39:15", "text": "Russia. Why we need to put pressure on"}, {"start": "00:39:13", "end": "00:39:17", "text": "Russia? Keep funneling billions of"}, {"start": "00:39:15", "end": "00:39:20", "text": "dollars to Ukraine because Putin is a"}, {"start": "00:39:17", "end": "00:39:24", "text": "dictator. He's a horrible dictator and"}, {"start": "00:39:20", "end": "00:39:26", "text": "we can't stand for dictators."}, {"start": "00:39:24", "end": "00:39:28", "text": "uh and so therefore we need to inject"}, {"start": "00:39:26", "end": "00:39:30", "text": "ourselves into these other countries. So"}, {"start": "00:39:28", "end": "00:39:32", "text": "when you hear that or when Russians hear"}, {"start": "00:39:30", "end": "00:39:34", "text": "that Americans at least believe that"}, {"start": "00:39:32", "end": "00:39:36", "text": "Putin is a dictator, what do you think"}, {"start": "00:39:34", "end": "00:39:39", "text": "about that? Any truth to that? What do"}, {"start": "00:39:36", "end": "00:39:41", "text": "you what do you say to those people?"}, {"start": "00:39:39", "end": "00:39:43", "text": ">> Well, you know, Russia is a presidential"}, {"start": "00:39:41", "end": "00:39:45", "text": "system and yes, the president has a lot"}, {"start": "00:39:43", "end": "00:39:47", "text": "of power. Uh same thing, by the way, as"}, {"start": "00:39:45", "end": "00:39:50", "text": "the US is. Uh because let's let's be"}, {"start": "00:39:47", "end": "00:39:52", "text": "realistic, the legislative branch in the"}, {"start": "00:39:50", "end": "00:39:54", "text": "US is pretty withered uh these days. you"}, {"start": "00:39:52", "end": "00:39:58", "text": "know, Congress won't ever do what it's"}, {"start": "00:39:54", "end": "00:39:59", "text": "supposed to do. Um, the president does"}, {"start": "00:39:58", "end": "00:40:01", "text": "have a lot of power, but he is an"}, {"start": "00:39:59", "end": "00:40:03", "text": "elected official. He does have the"}, {"start": "00:40:01", "end": "00:40:07", "text": "constitution. Uh, and Putin, by the way,"}, {"start": "00:40:03", "end": "00:40:09", "text": "is a was a lawyer uh and an economist."}, {"start": "00:40:07", "end": "00:40:12", "text": "So, he he's very legalistic. Uh, when it"}, {"start": "00:40:09", "end": "00:40:14", "text": "comes to this, if if anything, you could"}, {"start": "00:40:12", "end": "00:40:16", "text": "say Russia is a dictatorship of the"}, {"start": "00:40:14", "end": "00:40:19", "text": "bureaucracy. Uh, unfortunately, we we do"}, {"start": "00:40:16", "end": "00:40:22", "text": "have a tendency with the bureaucrats. uh"}, {"start": "00:40:19", "end": "00:40:24", "text": "you know the"}, {"start": "00:40:22", "end": "00:40:26", "text": "it was an interesting article I read uh"}, {"start": "00:40:24", "end": "00:40:30", "text": "back after Putin left the first time"}, {"start": "00:40:26", "end": "00:40:32", "text": "Amida became president um that in the"}, {"start": "00:40:30", "end": "00:40:35", "text": "first two terms uh Putin's first two"}, {"start": "00:40:32", "end": "00:40:39", "text": "terms there was over a thousand laws"}, {"start": "00:40:35", "end": "00:40:41", "text": "decrees or directives that he had signed"}, {"start": "00:40:39", "end": "00:40:43", "text": "that the bureaucracy just never acted"}, {"start": "00:40:41", "end": "00:40:45", "text": "upon. They're just like ah okay yeah"}, {"start": "00:40:43", "end": "00:40:47", "text": "whatever that's not a dictatorship"}, {"start": "00:40:45", "end": "00:40:48", "text": "that's well that's not a presidential"}, {"start": "00:40:47", "end": "00:40:50", "text": "dictatorship. Yeah, they they've they've"}, {"start": "00:40:48", "end": "00:40:51", "text": "stiffened things up a bit to make sure"}, {"start": "00:40:50", "end": "00:40:53", "text": "the the government does what it's"}, {"start": "00:40:51", "end": "00:40:55", "text": "supposed to do. But to say it's a"}, {"start": "00:40:53", "end": "00:40:58", "text": "dictatorship, no, absolutely not. You"}, {"start": "00:40:55", "end": "00:40:59", "text": "know, you you remember [ __ ] Riot?"}, {"start": "00:40:58", "end": "00:41:01", "text": ">> Mhm. Sure."}, {"start": "00:40:59", "end": "00:41:02", "text": ">> Uh you know why they got arrested? They"}, {"start": "00:41:01", "end": "00:41:06", "text": "didn't get arrested for protesting"}, {"start": "00:41:02", "end": "00:41:08", "text": "Putin. They got arrested for uh charging"}, {"start": "00:41:06", "end": "00:41:10", "text": "into on private property, the church's"}, {"start": "00:41:08", "end": "00:41:12", "text": "property in this case, disrupting a"}, {"start": "00:41:10", "end": "00:41:15", "text": "service, desecrating an altar. So there"}, {"start": "00:41:12", "end": "00:41:16", "text": "were three girls that did it. Well, two"}, {"start": "00:41:15", "end": "00:41:18", "text": "of them actually did it. The third one"}, {"start": "00:41:16", "end": "00:41:21", "text": "was stopped by a security guard. So, she"}, {"start": "00:41:18", "end": "00:41:23", "text": "never got up to the front of the church."}, {"start": "00:41:21", "end": "00:41:25", "text": "They didn't uh the third one didn't get"}, {"start": "00:41:23", "end": "00:41:27", "text": "prosecuted because she wasn't able to"}, {"start": "00:41:25", "end": "00:41:29", "text": "carry out the crime. Not that she didn't"}, {"start": "00:41:27", "end": "00:41:30", "text": "have intent to do it, but the security"}, {"start": "00:41:29", "end": "00:41:32", "text": "guard stopped her. And then the court"}, {"start": "00:41:30", "end": "00:41:34", "text": "said, well, you know, she technically"}, {"start": "00:41:32", "end": "00:41:36", "text": "didn't do it. So, you know, she she got"}, {"start": "00:41:34", "end": "00:41:40", "text": "let off. And the other two got"}, {"start": "00:41:36", "end": "00:41:42", "text": "prosecuted by the state uh for uh damage"}, {"start": "00:41:40", "end": "00:41:44", "text": "of private property for disrupting a"}, {"start": "00:41:42", "end": "00:41:46", "text": "church service which is illegal you know"}, {"start": "00:41:44", "end": "00:41:48", "text": "doesn't m not just an orthodox church"}, {"start": "00:41:46", "end": "00:41:49", "text": "doesn't matter which church uh you"}, {"start": "00:41:48", "end": "00:41:52", "text": "disrupt like that you'll get arrested"}, {"start": "00:41:49", "end": "00:41:54", "text": "for that or or mosque or what have you."}, {"start": "00:41:52", "end": "00:41:56", "text": "Um and that's what they were arrested"}, {"start": "00:41:54", "end": "00:41:58", "text": "for. So that it's not exactly a"}, {"start": "00:41:56", "end": "00:41:59", "text": "dictatorship. I mean, if you want to go"}, {"start": "00:41:58", "end": "00:42:01", "text": "out and tell everybody I don't like"}, {"start": "00:41:59", "end": "00:42:02", "text": "Putin, you can go out and tell everybody"}, {"start": "00:42:01", "end": "00:42:05", "text": "I don't like Putin. As long as you're"}, {"start": "00:42:02", "end": "00:42:06", "text": "not taking any criminal action by, you"}, {"start": "00:42:05", "end": "00:42:08", "text": "know, invading other people's rights,"}, {"start": "00:42:06", "end": "00:42:10", "text": "destroying other people's property. No,"}, {"start": "00:42:08", "end": "00:42:11", "text": "no, nobody's going to care."}, {"start": "00:42:10", "end": "00:42:14", "text": ">> So, if you were to go out on the street"}, {"start": "00:42:11", "end": "00:42:17", "text": "right now in Moscow holding up a sign"}, {"start": "00:42:14", "end": "00:42:18", "text": "saying, \"I don't like Putin,\" you could"}, {"start": "00:42:17", "end": "00:42:20", "text": "your day would be fine. You could come"}, {"start": "00:42:18", "end": "00:42:21", "text": "back home as as long as you're not"}, {"start": "00:42:20", "end": "00:42:23", "text": "destroying property or doing something"}, {"start": "00:42:21", "end": "00:42:25", "text": "else to incite a riot."}, {"start": "00:42:23", "end": "00:42:27", "text": ">> Right? As long as, by the way, you're"}, {"start": "00:42:25", "end": "00:42:29", "text": "not an immigrant because immigrants"}, {"start": "00:42:27", "end": "00:42:32", "text": "don't have a right to the to protest the"}, {"start": "00:42:29", "end": "00:42:36", "text": "government that they're they're a um a"}, {"start": "00:42:32", "end": "00:42:37", "text": "guest of citizens can uh immigrants. And"}, {"start": "00:42:36", "end": "00:42:39", "text": "I believe that's an absolutely correct"}, {"start": "00:42:37", "end": "00:42:40", "text": "thing. You know, if you're if you're not"}, {"start": "00:42:39", "end": "00:42:42", "text": "a citizen of a country, you have"}, {"start": "00:42:40", "end": "00:42:44", "text": "absolutely no right to protest inside"}, {"start": "00:42:42", "end": "00:42:46", "text": "that country. You're you're a guest of"}, {"start": "00:42:44", "end": "00:42:47", "text": "that country. If you're a citizen, then"}, {"start": "00:42:46", "end": "00:42:49", "text": "absolutely you have a right to protest."}, {"start": "00:42:47", "end": "00:42:52", "text": "Uh you know, the Russia has five"}, {"start": "00:42:49", "end": "00:42:54", "text": "political parties in parliament. It has"}, {"start": "00:42:52", "end": "00:42:58", "text": "700 registered political parties. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:42:54", "end": "00:43:01", "text": "a lot of these are just minimal what uh"}, {"start": "00:42:58", "end": "00:43:03", "text": "300 people, you know, one theme parties"}, {"start": "00:43:01", "end": "00:43:04", "text": "from one of the provinces or something"}, {"start": "00:43:03", "end": "00:43:08", "text": "like that. But there's five political"}, {"start": "00:43:04", "end": "00:43:09", "text": "parties inside uh the parliament."}, {"start": "00:43:08", "end": "00:43:12", "text": ">> Uh and they're they jostle for power"}, {"start": "00:43:09", "end": "00:43:15", "text": "just as well as in any other system. Uh"}, {"start": "00:43:12", "end": "00:43:17", "text": "they pass their laws, they push their"}, {"start": "00:43:15", "end": "00:43:22", "text": "agendas, uh they have their candidates."}, {"start": "00:43:17", "end": "00:43:25", "text": "It's just Putin is popular because a he"}, {"start": "00:43:22", "end": "00:43:27", "text": "uh he rebounded the city the system. I"}, {"start": "00:43:25", "end": "00:43:29", "text": "mean Russia was in a horrible state uh"}, {"start": "00:43:27", "end": "00:43:32", "text": "back in 1999. It was on the verge of"}, {"start": "00:43:29", "end": "00:43:35", "text": "collapse. It already had an economic uh"}, {"start": "00:43:32", "end": "00:43:38", "text": "uh dollar or ruble collapse back in 1998"}, {"start": "00:43:35", "end": "00:43:40", "text": "under Yelson and it was losing uh it was"}, {"start": "00:43:38", "end": "00:43:42", "text": "basically losing the second Chetchin war"}, {"start": "00:43:40", "end": "00:43:44", "text": "until Putin came in."}, {"start": "00:43:42", "end": "00:43:46", "text": ">> Do most popularity for that too"}, {"start": "00:43:44", "end": "00:43:48", "text": ">> support him? I mean would you say that"}, {"start": "00:43:46", "end": "00:43:50", "text": "among your friends, people that you have"}, {"start": "00:43:48", "end": "00:43:52", "text": "coffee with and drinks with and dinner"}, {"start": "00:43:50", "end": "00:43:55", "text": "with that most of them are support I"}, {"start": "00:43:52", "end": "00:43:56", "text": "know that's anecdotal of course but"}, {"start": "00:43:55", "end": "00:44:00", "text": ">> um is there frustration with how this"}, {"start": "00:43:56", "end": "00:44:02", "text": "war has extended? I know I hear reports"}, {"start": "00:44:00", "end": "00:44:06", "text": "out of Russia about we want an end to"}, {"start": "00:44:02", "end": "00:44:08", "text": "this war. They want Putin to sort of go"}, {"start": "00:44:06", "end": "00:44:10", "text": "balls to the wall and make the"}, {"start": "00:44:08", "end": "00:44:12", "text": "Ukrainians suffer in a much larger way."}, {"start": "00:44:10", "end": "00:44:16", "text": "And there's been frustration about the"}, {"start": "00:44:12", "end": "00:44:18", "text": "slow attrition of this war. But just in"}, {"start": "00:44:16", "end": "00:44:23", "text": "general, is there widespread support or"}, {"start": "00:44:18", "end": "00:44:24", "text": "is there anger, resentment, and uh"}, {"start": "00:44:23", "end": "00:44:27", "text": "frustration?"}, {"start": "00:44:24", "end": "00:44:30", "text": ">> Support has gone down, but Putin still"}, {"start": "00:44:27", "end": "00:44:33", "text": "has support around 70%. Uh and you know,"}, {"start": "00:44:30", "end": "00:44:36", "text": "when all of this started, uh I knew I I"}, {"start": "00:44:33", "end": "00:44:37", "text": "I know people who really dislike Putin,"}, {"start": "00:44:36", "end": "00:44:40", "text": "but when all this started, they started"}, {"start": "00:44:37", "end": "00:44:43", "text": "praying for his health. uh because uh"}, {"start": "00:44:40", "end": "00:44:45", "text": "everybody rallied around the flag. Now,"}, {"start": "00:44:43", "end": "00:44:48", "text": "just as a step back, when all of this"}, {"start": "00:44:45", "end": "00:44:50", "text": "started in 2014, I couldn't go to"}, {"start": "00:44:48", "end": "00:44:52", "text": "Ukraine because I didn't have Russian"}, {"start": "00:44:50", "end": "00:44:53", "text": "citizenship yet. I only had American"}, {"start": "00:44:52", "end": "00:44:56", "text": "citizenship and the US considered all"}, {"start": "00:44:53", "end": "00:44:58", "text": "those territories terrorists. Uh so I"}, {"start": "00:44:56", "end": "00:44:59", "text": "couldn't uh get across the border even"}, {"start": "00:44:58", "end": "00:45:01", "text": "though my relatives are all in that"}, {"start": "00:44:59", "end": "00:45:04", "text": "area. I've got I just was visiting my"}, {"start": "00:45:01", "end": "00:45:08", "text": "aunt in Sanata that has been getting"}, {"start": "00:45:04", "end": "00:45:10", "text": "shelled for 13 years. uh my uncle who"}, {"start": "00:45:08", "end": "00:45:14", "text": "died uh you know 3 years ago standing in"}, {"start": "00:45:10", "end": "00:45:16", "text": "the in his uh courtyard in his h at his"}, {"start": "00:45:14", "end": "00:45:19", "text": "house or his lawn uh and you're"}, {"start": "00:45:16", "end": "00:45:21", "text": "listening to uh 155 millimeter shells"}, {"start": "00:45:19", "end": "00:45:22", "text": "flying overhead here and there blowing"}, {"start": "00:45:21", "end": "00:45:24", "text": "up somewhere in the city that people are"}, {"start": "00:45:22", "end": "00:45:27", "text": "just used to it. Russians are psychotic"}, {"start": "00:45:24", "end": "00:45:30", "text": "like that. We we we don't scare easily."}, {"start": "00:45:27", "end": "00:45:32", "text": "Uh the city of uh Gorovka is a prime"}, {"start": "00:45:30", "end": "00:45:34", "text": "example. Pre-war Gorfka had a population"}, {"start": "00:45:32", "end": "00:45:36", "text": "380,000."}, {"start": "00:45:34", "end": "00:45:39", "text": "it get western Gorfka which is uh"}, {"start": "00:45:36", "end": "00:45:41", "text": "basically the front line is you know a"}, {"start": "00:45:39", "end": "00:45:44", "text": "death zone. There's drones that'll take"}, {"start": "00:45:41", "end": "00:45:45", "text": "out the smaller drones when you're"}, {"start": "00:45:44", "end": "00:45:49", "text": "walking by and I've I've been there. I"}, {"start": "00:45:45", "end": "00:45:52", "text": "personally walked there uh videotaped uh"}, {"start": "00:45:49", "end": "00:45:54", "text": "an uh a report for Russia today at a"}, {"start": "00:45:52", "end": "00:45:56", "text": "market that just got hit uh less than an"}, {"start": "00:45:54", "end": "00:45:58", "text": "hour before. The guy's body was still"}, {"start": "00:45:56", "end": "00:45:59", "text": "laying behind me cuz they hadn't"}, {"start": "00:45:58", "end": "00:46:02", "text": "evacuated. They evacuated his wife who"}, {"start": "00:45:59", "end": "00:46:04", "text": "just lost her legs. Um, and they just"}, {"start": "00:46:02", "end": "00:46:05", "text": "that's some Ukrainians do. They're just"}, {"start": "00:46:04", "end": "00:46:07", "text": "shooting the markets. But you're walking"}, {"start": "00:46:05", "end": "00:46:08", "text": "by these buildings and the building's"}, {"start": "00:46:07", "end": "00:46:10", "text": "intact, but there's burned out"}, {"start": "00:46:08", "end": "00:46:12", "text": "apartments cuz they'll bring in FPV"}, {"start": "00:46:10", "end": "00:46:14", "text": "drones, fly the drone up, look in the"}, {"start": "00:46:12", "end": "00:46:16", "text": "window, see people, and then hit the the"}, {"start": "00:46:14", "end": "00:46:20", "text": "the apartment to try to kill the people."}, {"start": "00:46:16", "end": "00:46:23", "text": "Uh, to gain points. Uh, that that called"}, {"start": "00:46:20", "end": "00:46:25", "text": "the gamification of uh of drone warfare."}, {"start": "00:46:23", "end": "00:46:28", "text": "Uh, and what that means is the"}, {"start": "00:46:25", "end": "00:46:30", "text": "Ukrainians, they always try to kill"}, {"start": "00:46:28", "end": "00:46:32", "text": "something or somebody because they gain"}, {"start": "00:46:30", "end": "00:46:34", "text": "points for that and they upload their"}, {"start": "00:46:32", "end": "00:46:36", "text": "videos, their kill videos uh to this to"}, {"start": "00:46:34", "end": "00:46:38", "text": "the government. Um,"}, {"start": "00:46:36", "end": "00:46:38", "text": ">> first I'm sorry, can I just interrupt"}, {"start": "00:46:38", "end": "00:46:39", "text": "you?"}, {"start": "00:46:38", "end": "00:46:41", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:46:39", "end": "00:46:44", "text": ">> So, can you explain this? So, they gain"}, {"start": "00:46:41", "end": "00:46:45", "text": "points from the government so by killing"}, {"start": "00:46:44", "end": "00:46:47", "text": "civilians."}, {"start": "00:46:45", "end": "00:46:52", "text": "Well, the target the number one target"}, {"start": "00:46:47", "end": "00:46:53", "text": "is obviously uh uh military equipment uh"}, {"start": "00:46:52", "end": "00:46:55", "text": "expensive military equipment, heavy"}, {"start": "00:46:53", "end": "00:46:58", "text": "military equipment, radar systems,"}, {"start": "00:46:55", "end": "00:47:00", "text": "something like that. Second uh tier is"}, {"start": "00:46:58", "end": "00:47:03", "text": "Russian military uh personnel. Third"}, {"start": "00:47:00", "end": "00:47:06", "text": "tier is civilian equipment like trucks,"}, {"start": "00:47:03", "end": "00:47:09", "text": "semi trucks, uh engineering equipment,"}, {"start": "00:47:06", "end": "00:47:11", "text": "you know, caterpillar"}, {"start": "00:47:09", "end": "00:47:14", "text": "excavators, someone of that sort. Third"}, {"start": "00:47:11", "end": "00:47:16", "text": "tier is civilian cars and fourth that's"}, {"start": "00:47:14", "end": "00:47:19", "text": "I guess fourth tier. Fifth tier is just"}, {"start": "00:47:16", "end": "00:47:21", "text": "civilians. There's average of five to 10"}, {"start": "00:47:19", "end": "00:47:24", "text": "civilians killed every single day by uh"}, {"start": "00:47:21", "end": "00:47:26", "text": "mostly by Ukrainian drones. So, you"}, {"start": "00:47:24", "end": "00:47:27", "text": "know, if if they can't find anything"}, {"start": "00:47:26", "end": "00:47:29", "text": "else to kill and there's a baby in a"}, {"start": "00:47:27", "end": "00:47:30", "text": "pram, that baby is going to get killed."}, {"start": "00:47:29", "end": "00:47:32", "text": "Uh they get points"}, {"start": "00:47:30", "end": "00:47:33", "text": ">> and they get points and they get points"}, {"start": "00:47:32", "end": "00:47:35", "text": "for this."}, {"start": "00:47:33", "end": "00:47:36", "text": ">> Yes, they get points for this. And at"}, {"start": "00:47:35", "end": "00:47:39", "text": "the end of the month, they turn those"}, {"start": "00:47:36", "end": "00:47:42", "text": "points in to get better equipment or"}, {"start": "00:47:39", "end": "00:47:45", "text": "swag or better rations or better pay"}, {"start": "00:47:42", "end": "00:47:47", "text": "bonuses. This is why Ukrainian drone"}, {"start": "00:47:45", "end": "00:47:49", "text": "operators, they don't tend to become"}, {"start": "00:47:47", "end": "00:47:52", "text": "PSWs, if you understand what I'm saying."}, {"start": "00:47:49", "end": "00:47:54", "text": "Uh yeah, that that uh they do this. This"}, {"start": "00:47:52", "end": "00:47:57", "text": "is called a gam gamification. This some"}, {"start": "00:47:54", "end": "00:48:00", "text": "the west came up with uh and and"}, {"start": "00:47:57", "end": "00:48:02", "text": "exported test exported into Ukraine. And"}, {"start": "00:48:00", "end": "00:48:04", "text": "unfortunately, it works. Uh it takes"}, {"start": "00:48:02", "end": "00:48:06", "text": "whatever humanity's left in that person"}, {"start": "00:48:04", "end": "00:48:09", "text": "takes it right out of there. The"}, {"start": "00:48:06", "end": "00:48:11", "text": "emphasis is kill something. You know,"}, {"start": "00:48:09", "end": "00:48:14", "text": "I've driven down uh I was delivering"}, {"start": "00:48:11", "end": "00:48:16", "text": "medical equipment uh to southern Kursk"}, {"start": "00:48:14", "end": "00:48:19", "text": "uh region uh and we're driving parallel"}, {"start": "00:48:16", "end": "00:48:22", "text": "to uh uh the Ukrainian border and"}, {"start": "00:48:19", "end": "00:48:24", "text": "there's a burning uh burning se uh"}, {"start": "00:48:22", "end": "00:48:25", "text": "burned out other equipment. We passed I"}, {"start": "00:48:24", "end": "00:48:27", "text": "mean a guy uh it was early in the"}, {"start": "00:48:25", "end": "00:48:29", "text": "morning. It was probably about 5 in the"}, {"start": "00:48:27", "end": "00:48:32", "text": "morning, 4 in the morning, and the guy"}, {"start": "00:48:29", "end": "00:48:35", "text": "had stopped at a stop sign to and the"}, {"start": "00:48:32", "end": "00:48:36", "text": "drone came smacked him in the cabin. So,"}, {"start": "00:48:35", "end": "00:48:38", "text": "you know, he burned up in there and the"}, {"start": "00:48:36", "end": "00:48:41", "text": "truck was still burning. And we're"}, {"start": "00:48:38", "end": "00:48:43", "text": "flying down this white uh Ford van full"}, {"start": "00:48:41", "end": "00:48:45", "text": "of equipment. And, you know, you can't"}, {"start": "00:48:43", "end": "00:48:47", "text": "outrun these drones. Uh well, you can,"}, {"start": "00:48:45", "end": "00:48:49", "text": "but it's very, very hard, especially in"}, {"start": "00:48:47", "end": "00:48:51", "text": "a van, cuz these drones can accelerate"}, {"start": "00:48:49", "end": "00:48:54", "text": "up to 140 km an hour, and they can go"}, {"start": "00:48:51", "end": "00:48:55", "text": "from almost nothing to 140 in in a"}, {"start": "00:48:54", "end": "00:48:57", "text": "second or two."}, {"start": "00:48:55", "end": "00:48:59", "text": "uh and you don't see them coming if"}, {"start": "00:48:57", "end": "00:49:01", "text": "they're small enough and and yeah, they"}, {"start": "00:48:59", "end": "00:49:03", "text": "they'll hit cars. Uh I mean, obviously"}, {"start": "00:49:01", "end": "00:49:05", "text": "they prefer to hit a truck or something"}, {"start": "00:49:03", "end": "00:49:07", "text": "uh that looks like it may be carrying"}, {"start": "00:49:05", "end": "00:49:09", "text": "something to just a civilian car, but if"}, {"start": "00:49:07", "end": "00:49:11", "text": "uh if there's nothing else, you know,"}, {"start": "00:49:09", "end": "00:49:13", "text": "one of my updates I I went through a"}, {"start": "00:49:11", "end": "00:49:16", "text": "list of uh civilians killed, apartments"}, {"start": "00:49:13", "end": "00:49:19", "text": "hit just in one day. apartments hit in"}, {"start": "00:49:16", "end": "00:49:21", "text": "one area, uh, two people killed in a gas"}, {"start": "00:49:19", "end": "00:49:24", "text": "station, another area, a drone flew in"}, {"start": "00:49:21", "end": "00:49:26", "text": "and and so on and just every single"}, {"start": "00:49:24", "end": "00:49:28", "text": "freaking day. Uh, the West doesn't talk"}, {"start": "00:49:26", "end": "00:49:32", "text": "about this. Just like the West doesn't"}, {"start": "00:49:28", "end": "00:49:34", "text": "talk about on New Year's Eve in Zaparoia"}, {"start": "00:49:32", "end": "00:49:35", "text": "region that Ukraine says, \"Oh, these are"}, {"start": "00:49:34", "end": "00:49:37", "text": "Ukrainians.\" And then they kill the"}, {"start": "00:49:35", "end": "00:49:39", "text": "civilians and they don't feel Ukrainian."}, {"start": "00:49:37", "end": "00:49:41", "text": "believe you me that there's nothing like"}, {"start": "00:49:39", "end": "00:49:45", "text": "getting killed by the other side to"}, {"start": "00:49:41", "end": "00:49:47", "text": "really uh reshape your mental uh image"}, {"start": "00:49:45", "end": "00:49:50", "text": "of of who's your friend and who's your"}, {"start": "00:49:47", "end": "00:49:54", "text": "enemy. But Ukrainian drone operators hit"}, {"start": "00:49:50", "end": "00:49:59", "text": "uh uh in in southern uh Zaparosia on the"}, {"start": "00:49:54", "end": "00:50:02", "text": "beach. Uh they they hit um"}, {"start": "00:49:59", "end": "00:50:04", "text": "uh a cafe uh full of pe full of"}, {"start": "00:50:02", "end": "00:50:08", "text": "civilians. There were several hits"}, {"start": "00:50:04", "end": "00:50:10", "text": "including an incendiary uh uh explosive"}, {"start": "00:50:08", "end": "00:50:12", "text": "device. Uh so there was I think like 30"}, {"start": "00:50:10", "end": "00:50:14", "text": "40 people that died including children"}, {"start": "00:50:12", "end": "00:50:16", "text": "that burnt to death. Uh again this is"}, {"start": "00:50:14", "end": "00:50:17", "text": "not something that hits the west. This"}, {"start": "00:50:16", "end": "00:50:18", "text": "is something that gets absolutely"}, {"start": "00:50:17", "end": "00:50:21", "text": "ignored."}, {"start": "00:50:18", "end": "00:50:23", "text": ">> So they they they kill 40 civilians,"}, {"start": "00:50:21", "end": "00:50:26", "text": "they kill children and then they're"}, {"start": "00:50:23", "end": "00:50:29", "text": "getting 40 or so points."}, {"start": "00:50:26", "end": "00:50:30", "text": ">> Yeah. Through this gamification program"}, {"start": "00:50:29", "end": "00:50:32", "text": "and then they're getting additional"}, {"start": "00:50:30", "end": "00:50:35", "text": "equipment. They're getting status within"}, {"start": "00:50:32", "end": "00:50:37", "text": "the Ukrainian government and rewarded"}, {"start": "00:50:35", "end": "00:50:39", "text": "through"}, {"start": "00:50:37", "end": "00:50:42", "text": ">> I mean it takes whatever little"}, {"start": "00:50:39", "end": "00:50:46", "text": "humanity's left. I mean, you know, drone"}, {"start": "00:50:42", "end": "00:50:48", "text": "warfare is is is horrid uh in that if"}, {"start": "00:50:46", "end": "00:50:52", "text": "you're on the front line there there is"}, {"start": "00:50:48", "end": "00:50:54", "text": "no peaceful area, you know, and I'm I'm"}, {"start": "00:50:52", "end": "00:50:56", "text": "the first I really realize this. I was"}, {"start": "00:50:54", "end": "00:50:57", "text": "on up on the front lines in 23 and I had"}, {"start": "00:50:56", "end": "00:51:00", "text": "to go to the bathroom. So, I walk out"}, {"start": "00:50:57", "end": "00:51:02", "text": "behind the building and I'm sit in the"}, {"start": "00:51:00", "end": "00:51:05", "text": "middle of the night and and you know,"}, {"start": "00:51:02", "end": "00:51:07", "text": "previously I'm maybe like 300 m away"}, {"start": "00:51:05", "end": "00:51:09", "text": "from the front line. Uh yeah, you you'd"}, {"start": "00:51:07", "end": "00:51:11", "text": "have to fear snipers that could maybe"}, {"start": "00:51:09", "end": "00:51:14", "text": "get you, but nobody would shoot"}, {"start": "00:51:11", "end": "00:51:16", "text": "artillery at one guy. But then I'm I'm"}, {"start": "00:51:14", "end": "00:51:18", "text": "walking around the back build of this uh"}, {"start": "00:51:16", "end": "00:51:20", "text": "semi-demolished building to to go to a"}, {"start": "00:51:18", "end": "00:51:22", "text": "bathroom. And I'm sitting there like,"}, {"start": "00:51:20", "end": "00:51:26", "text": "yo, if I get killed right now, this is"}, {"start": "00:51:22", "end": "00:51:28", "text": "just such a horrible way to get killed."}, {"start": "00:51:26", "end": "00:51:30", "text": "Going to the bathroom, somebody drops a"}, {"start": "00:51:28", "end": "00:51:32", "text": "grenade on your head. Uh, but that's and"}, {"start": "00:51:30", "end": "00:51:33", "text": "and and you know, I'm just visiting"}, {"start": "00:51:32", "end": "00:51:35", "text": "there for a couple days here, a couple"}, {"start": "00:51:33", "end": "00:51:38", "text": "days there. These guys are living this"}, {"start": "00:51:35", "end": "00:51:39", "text": "uh I'm on both sides in in all reality"}, {"start": "00:51:38", "end": "00:51:43", "text": "and they're living this every single"}, {"start": "00:51:39", "end": "00:51:44", "text": "day. There's no quiet region up front."}, {"start": "00:51:43", "end": "00:51:46", "text": "Uh I mean, you you can't go behind a"}, {"start": "00:51:44", "end": "00:51:47", "text": "building to do your business because"}, {"start": "00:51:46", "end": "00:51:49", "text": "there may be a drone hovering over your"}, {"start": "00:51:47", "end": "00:51:51", "text": "head. uh at least a drone that's"}, {"start": "00:51:49", "end": "00:51:53", "text": "spawning you, another drone that's"}, {"start": "00:51:51", "end": "00:51:55", "text": "coming in to uh finish you off. And"}, {"start": "00:51:53", "end": "00:51:58", "text": "yeah, that's that's a that's a massive"}, {"start": "00:51:55", "end": "00:52:00", "text": "pressure that uh that previous wars you"}, {"start": "00:51:58", "end": "00:52:01", "text": "just never had. Uh"}, {"start": "00:52:00", "end": "00:52:04", "text": ">> you've been to the front, I mentioned at"}, {"start": "00:52:01", "end": "00:52:05", "text": "the beginning, 14 times."}, {"start": "00:52:04", "end": "00:52:08", "text": ">> What do we how have you seen the front"}, {"start": "00:52:05", "end": "00:52:10", "text": "shift in the over those 14 times? And"}, {"start": "00:52:08", "end": "00:52:12", "text": "where where specifically have you been"}, {"start": "00:52:10", "end": "00:52:14", "text": "going?"}, {"start": "00:52:12", "end": "00:52:15", "text": ">> Um the last couple times we're not"}, {"start": "00:52:14", "end": "00:52:17", "text": "actually going to the very front. We're"}, {"start": "00:52:15", "end": "00:52:19", "text": "in the near rear, which is still a"}, {"start": "00:52:17", "end": "00:52:20", "text": "combat zone because you can't get up to"}, {"start": "00:52:19", "end": "00:52:23", "text": "the front anymore the way you used to"}, {"start": "00:52:20", "end": "00:52:25", "text": "because of drones. You know, at in 22"}, {"start": "00:52:23", "end": "00:52:28", "text": "and 23, we just drove up to the front."}, {"start": "00:52:25", "end": "00:52:30", "text": "Uh we were bringing uh food, things like"}, {"start": "00:52:28", "end": "00:52:33", "text": "that, you know, addition because the"}, {"start": "00:52:30", "end": "00:52:35", "text": "Russian army when it came in, uh it it"}, {"start": "00:52:33", "end": "00:52:37", "text": "was the provisional system wasn't that"}, {"start": "00:52:35", "end": "00:52:39", "text": "well organized because they were they"}, {"start": "00:52:37", "end": "00:52:40", "text": "weren't planning on invading Ukraine. Uh"}, {"start": "00:52:39", "end": "00:52:44", "text": "they did it because Ukrainians were"}, {"start": "00:52:40", "end": "00:52:46", "text": "about to invade Donbos and uh they were"}, {"start": "00:52:44", "end": "00:52:49", "text": "aiming to invade into Russia to cause a"}, {"start": "00:52:46", "end": "00:52:51", "text": "political collapse inside of Russia. In"}, {"start": "00:52:49", "end": "00:52:54", "text": "fact, there was uh diversionary groups."}, {"start": "00:52:51", "end": "00:52:55", "text": "I've got friends in and in and special"}, {"start": "00:52:54", "end": "00:52:57", "text": "services. They were telling me, you"}, {"start": "00:52:55", "end": "00:52:58", "text": "know, there were several diversionary"}, {"start": "00:52:57", "end": "00:53:00", "text": "groups of several hundred Ukrainians"}, {"start": "00:52:58", "end": "00:53:03", "text": "inside of Russia. They were just found"}, {"start": "00:53:00", "end": "00:53:07", "text": "and destroyed the day two days before"}, {"start": "00:53:03", "end": "00:53:09", "text": "the break out of the uh official uh"}, {"start": "00:53:07", "end": "00:53:12", "text": "special military operation. So they were"}, {"start": "00:53:09", "end": "00:53:14", "text": "there. The aim was to murder off the"}, {"start": "00:53:12", "end": "00:53:17", "text": "population of eastern Ukraine and keep"}, {"start": "00:53:14", "end": "00:53:20", "text": "on going inside of Russia into Rastov"}, {"start": "00:53:17", "end": "00:53:23", "text": "into uh uh Veronish in those directions"}, {"start": "00:53:20", "end": "00:53:26", "text": "to try to cause a political uh crisis"}, {"start": "00:53:23", "end": "00:53:29", "text": "inside of Russia and maybe break Russia"}, {"start": "00:53:26", "end": "00:53:31", "text": "up. That well that was the aim anyways."}, {"start": "00:53:29", "end": "00:53:33", "text": "Um so this was all very serious. I mean"}, {"start": "00:53:31", "end": "00:53:35", "text": "the Russian army when it in when it"}, {"start": "00:53:33", "end": "00:53:38", "text": "attacked uh the Ukrainians outnumbered"}, {"start": "00:53:35", "end": "00:53:40", "text": "it two to one. Yeah, normally if you're"}, {"start": "00:53:38", "end": "00:53:42", "text": "attacking, you want to outnumber the the"}, {"start": "00:53:40", "end": "00:53:44", "text": "enemy 3 to one uh when you're attacking,"}, {"start": "00:53:42", "end": "00:53:47", "text": "not be outnumbered two to one. Uh so"}, {"start": "00:53:44", "end": "00:53:49", "text": "that that that was a position in 22 23"}, {"start": "00:53:47", "end": "00:53:50", "text": "and you know the front lines weren't"}, {"start": "00:53:49", "end": "00:53:53", "text": "stable. People didn't know who was"}, {"start": "00:53:50", "end": "00:53:56", "text": "where. Uh so you're riding up uh up to"}, {"start": "00:53:53", "end": "00:53:58", "text": "the front lines and you know uh village"}, {"start": "00:53:56", "end": "00:54:00", "text": "next door may be in Ukrainian hands or"}, {"start": "00:53:58", "end": "00:54:01", "text": "maybe not and nobody really knows until"}, {"start": "00:54:00", "end": "00:54:03", "text": "some they send somebody over there to"}, {"start": "00:54:01", "end": "00:54:05", "text": "look go oh whoops I'm getting shot at."}, {"start": "00:54:03", "end": "00:54:07", "text": "Okay, I think the Ukrainians are here"}, {"start": "00:54:05", "end": "00:54:10", "text": "and and vice versa. It was a is a very"}, {"start": "00:54:07", "end": "00:54:13", "text": "fluid uh situation. But the Russian"}, {"start": "00:54:10", "end": "00:54:14", "text": "army, you know, ju just when"}, {"start": "00:54:13", "end": "00:54:18", "text": "negotiations were going on, just to"}, {"start": "00:54:14", "end": "00:54:21", "text": "understand this too, uh the the theory"}, {"start": "00:54:18", "end": "00:54:23", "text": "was we shocked the Ukrainians, uh you"}, {"start": "00:54:21", "end": "00:54:28", "text": "know, Russia for through mints one,"}, {"start": "00:54:23", "end": "00:54:32", "text": "mints two, uh Russia was a guaranteeer"}, {"start": "00:54:28", "end": "00:54:34", "text": "of uh of the uh of the agreements just"}, {"start": "00:54:32", "end": "00:54:36", "text": "like Germany and France. Russia wasn't a"}, {"start": "00:54:34", "end": "00:54:38", "text": "party of them and Russia was guaranteed"}, {"start": "00:54:36", "end": "00:54:42", "text": "that the was guaranteeing that the two"}, {"start": "00:54:38", "end": "00:54:44", "text": "eastern breakaway provinces or republics"}, {"start": "00:54:42", "end": "00:54:46", "text": "uh would return into Ukraine if Ukraine"}, {"start": "00:54:44", "end": "00:54:48", "text": "changed the constitution gave him"}, {"start": "00:54:46", "end": "00:54:52", "text": "federalization and autonomy status"}, {"start": "00:54:48", "end": "00:54:54", "text": "because the whole explosion in the east"}, {"start": "00:54:52", "end": "00:54:56", "text": "uh in Khakov and all these other areas"}, {"start": "00:54:54", "end": "00:54:58", "text": "that got suppressed uh the the Russian"}, {"start": "00:54:56", "end": "00:55:01", "text": "population there was uh demanding this"}, {"start": "00:54:58", "end": "00:55:03", "text": "outlandish thing called federalization."}, {"start": "00:55:01", "end": "00:55:05", "text": "They wanted to elect their governors,"}, {"start": "00:55:03", "end": "00:55:07", "text": "not to have uh not to have oligarchs set"}, {"start": "00:55:05", "end": "00:55:12", "text": "above them because the way Ukraine works"}, {"start": "00:55:07", "end": "00:55:15", "text": "is Ukraine is a neo feudalistic system"}, {"start": "00:55:12", "end": "00:55:18", "text": "of of absolute corruption. So Kiev sets"}, {"start": "00:55:15", "end": "00:55:20", "text": "an oligarch over some province. He's not"}, {"start": "00:55:18", "end": "00:55:22", "text": "there to govern the province. He's there"}, {"start": "00:55:20", "end": "00:55:23", "text": "to feed off of the province. He gathers"}, {"start": "00:55:22", "end": "00:55:25", "text": "money one way or the other, keeps a"}, {"start": "00:55:23", "end": "00:55:27", "text": "portion of it, and then feeds the rest"}, {"start": "00:55:25", "end": "00:55:29", "text": "of it to Kiev where it gets distributed"}, {"start": "00:55:27", "end": "00:55:31", "text": "amongst the uh the elites. So he's there"}, {"start": "00:55:29", "end": "00:55:32", "text": "to and this is one of the reasons the"}, {"start": "00:55:31", "end": "00:55:33", "text": "country's economy collapsed because"}, {"start": "00:55:32", "end": "00:55:36", "text": "they're just stealing everything,"}, {"start": "00:55:33", "end": "00:55:37", "text": "liquidating everything in sight. Uh and"}, {"start": "00:55:36", "end": "00:55:40", "text": "the people's lives are just getting"}, {"start": "00:55:37", "end": "00:55:42", "text": "worse and worse year after year. Uh so"}, {"start": "00:55:40", "end": "00:55:45", "text": "the east exploded in demands for"}, {"start": "00:55:42", "end": "00:55:48", "text": "federalization and the the Ukrainian"}, {"start": "00:55:45", "end": "00:55:50", "text": "espu the security services responded by"}, {"start": "00:55:48", "end": "00:55:51", "text": "murdering off the leadership. They'd go"}, {"start": "00:55:50", "end": "00:55:53", "text": "to these rallies. They'd videotape the"}, {"start": "00:55:51", "end": "00:55:56", "text": "rallies as a participant of the rally"}, {"start": "00:55:53", "end": "00:55:58", "text": "figured out who the uh uh who the"}, {"start": "00:55:56", "end": "00:56:01", "text": "leaders were and then go kill them and"}, {"start": "00:55:58", "end": "00:56:04", "text": "disappear them into the woods. Or as the"}, {"start": "00:56:01", "end": "00:56:07", "text": "governor of uh Khikov Ob did. He said,"}, {"start": "00:56:04", "end": "00:56:09", "text": "\"Hey, you know, we need to rebel also."}, {"start": "00:56:07", "end": "00:56:11", "text": "Let's sign up uh who wants to form the"}, {"start": "00:56:09", "end": "00:56:12", "text": "militia.\" Got everybody uh to sign up"}, {"start": "00:56:11", "end": "00:56:15", "text": "who was volunteering and then turned"}, {"start": "00:56:12", "end": "00:56:17", "text": "around and gave those lists over to uh"}, {"start": "00:56:15", "end": "00:56:18", "text": "uh the security services. then went and"}, {"start": "00:56:17", "end": "00:56:20", "text": "started rounding people up and"}, {"start": "00:56:18", "end": "00:56:21", "text": "disappearing them into the woods. Uh"}, {"start": "00:56:20", "end": "00:56:23", "text": "they were finding corpses left and right"}, {"start": "00:56:21", "end": "00:56:25", "text": "in the woods for for quite a while and"}, {"start": "00:56:23", "end": "00:56:27", "text": "people started fighting back. I mean"}, {"start": "00:56:25", "end": "00:56:28", "text": "once they figured out uh not only were"}, {"start": "00:56:27", "end": "00:56:30", "text": "they not going to get to elect their"}, {"start": "00:56:28", "end": "00:56:33", "text": "governors, not only were they not going"}, {"start": "00:56:30", "end": "00:56:35", "text": "to say get a say in which way their uh"}, {"start": "00:56:33", "end": "00:56:36", "text": "where their money was going, uh they"}, {"start": "00:56:35", "end": "00:56:38", "text": "were going to get suppressed and"}, {"start": "00:56:36", "end": "00:56:42", "text": "possibly uh killed. That's when the"}, {"start": "00:56:38", "end": "00:56:43", "text": "rebellion broke out. You know, in 2014,"}, {"start": "00:56:42", "end": "00:56:45", "text": "I couldn't go over there because I I was"}, {"start": "00:56:43", "end": "00:56:46", "text": "on residency in Russia. I could have"}, {"start": "00:56:45", "end": "00:56:48", "text": "lost my residency and my family would"}, {"start": "00:56:46", "end": "00:56:50", "text": "have lost lost their residency. We"}, {"start": "00:56:48", "end": "00:56:53", "text": "didn't have citizenship yet. But, you"}, {"start": "00:56:50", "end": "00:56:56", "text": "know, I took me and a a friend of mine,"}, {"start": "00:56:53", "end": "00:56:58", "text": "we took uh his van, filled it up with"}, {"start": "00:56:56", "end": "00:57:00", "text": "clothing, filled it up, got money,"}, {"start": "00:56:58", "end": "00:57:04", "text": "collected money from everybody, took it"}, {"start": "00:57:00", "end": "00:57:08", "text": "down to Rust Nadanu, and Rust is not"}, {"start": "00:57:04", "end": "00:57:11", "text": "very far from the from Detsk or the old"}, {"start": "00:57:08", "end": "00:57:13", "text": "Ukrainian border. uh we went to a church"}, {"start": "00:57:11", "end": "00:57:15", "text": "uh warehouse uh to deliver all this"}, {"start": "00:57:13", "end": "00:57:16", "text": "because what the Ukrainian army was"}, {"start": "00:57:15", "end": "00:57:19", "text": "doing middle of night they just start"}, {"start": "00:57:16", "end": "00:57:20", "text": "shelling villages. So people are running"}, {"start": "00:57:19", "end": "00:57:22", "text": "out in the middle of night, kids, you"}, {"start": "00:57:20", "end": "00:57:24", "text": "know, in their night clothes, uh, kids"}, {"start": "00:57:22", "end": "00:57:25", "text": "under their arms, and they're running"}, {"start": "00:57:24", "end": "00:57:27", "text": "into the woods into the swamps as their"}, {"start": "00:57:25", "end": "00:57:30", "text": "village is now now being shelled by the"}, {"start": "00:57:27", "end": "00:57:31", "text": "Ukrainian army. And a day or two later,"}, {"start": "00:57:30", "end": "00:57:34", "text": "they're popping up somewhere near"}, {"start": "00:57:31", "end": "00:57:36", "text": "Rustav, hungry, dirty, confused. You"}, {"start": "00:57:34", "end": "00:57:38", "text": "couldn't go to the official crossing"}, {"start": "00:57:36", "end": "00:57:40", "text": "sites where the Russian emergency"}, {"start": "00:57:38", "end": "00:57:42", "text": "services were setting up camps because"}, {"start": "00:57:40", "end": "00:57:44", "text": "the Ukrainians would show the Ukrainian"}, {"start": "00:57:42", "end": "00:57:46", "text": "side of that crossing to try to kill the"}, {"start": "00:57:44", "end": "00:57:48", "text": "civilians. So people are coming in. I"}, {"start": "00:57:46", "end": "00:57:49", "text": "mean, I watched these people come in. We"}, {"start": "00:57:48", "end": "00:57:51", "text": "came in with a full van with the"}, {"start": "00:57:49", "end": "00:57:53", "text": "clothing and and supplies and the church"}, {"start": "00:57:51", "end": "00:57:54", "text": "is picking them up, feeding them,"}, {"start": "00:57:53", "end": "00:57:57", "text": "clothing them, and then sending them off"}, {"start": "00:57:54", "end": "00:57:59", "text": "to the emergency services. Uh, so, you"}, {"start": "00:57:57", "end": "00:58:00", "text": "know, we we went bought more supplies at"}, {"start": "00:57:59", "end": "00:58:03", "text": "the local stores with the money we"}, {"start": "00:58:00", "end": "00:58:05", "text": "collected. This is 2014. You saw this"}, {"start": "00:58:03", "end": "00:58:08", "text": "with my own eyes. uh people coming in"}, {"start": "00:58:05", "end": "00:58:09", "text": "just with their just distraught, you"}, {"start": "00:58:08", "end": "00:58:11", "text": "know, they've been shelled two days"}, {"start": "00:58:09", "end": "00:58:12", "text": "before there, a day before that,"}, {"start": "00:58:11", "end": "00:58:13", "text": "depending on where their village was,"}, {"start": "00:58:12", "end": "00:58:16", "text": "how close it was to the border, and you"}, {"start": "00:58:13", "end": "00:58:20", "text": "just ran east uh through through the"}, {"start": "00:58:16", "end": "00:58:24", "text": "forests in the swamplands. So, this is"}, {"start": "00:58:20", "end": "00:58:26", "text": "the reality of it. So, this is this is"}, {"start": "00:58:24", "end": "00:58:29", "text": "what Ukraine uh created. This is what"}, {"start": "00:58:26", "end": "00:58:31", "text": "Ukraine uh is doing now. I mean, they're"}, {"start": "00:58:29", "end": "00:58:33", "text": "still uh talking about, you know, they"}, {"start": "00:58:31", "end": "00:58:35", "text": "don't they want the land, they don't"}, {"start": "00:58:33", "end": "00:58:36", "text": "want the people."}, {"start": "00:58:35", "end": "00:58:38", "text": "And these people, you know, I had an"}, {"start": "00:58:36", "end": "00:58:40", "text": "American acquaintance once ask me, \"Why"}, {"start": "00:58:38", "end": "00:58:41", "text": "don't you just Russia's a big place, why"}, {"start": "00:58:40", "end": "00:58:44", "text": "don't you just pick up and leave?\" I'm"}, {"start": "00:58:41", "end": "00:58:45", "text": "like, \"Why the hell do my people, cuz"}, {"start": "00:58:44", "end": "00:58:48", "text": "I'm from that region, have been living"}, {"start": "00:58:45", "end": "00:58:50", "text": "there for hundreds of years, in some"}, {"start": "00:58:48", "end": "00:58:53", "text": "areas over a thousand years, have to"}, {"start": "00:58:50", "end": "00:58:55", "text": "pick up and leave their land because"}, {"start": "00:58:53", "end": "00:58:57", "text": "some psychopath that says you're not"}, {"start": "00:58:55", "end": "00:59:02", "text": "genetically the right uh type of"}, {"start": "00:58:57", "end": "00:59:03", "text": "person.\" Uh, no. Stand and fight. Well,"}, {"start": "00:59:02", "end": "00:59:05", "text": "you know, a lot of people, a lot of"}, {"start": "00:59:03", "end": "00:59:08", "text": "Russians uh came running in uh to help"}, {"start": "00:59:05", "end": "00:59:10", "text": "uh to help fight back in 2014,"}, {"start": "00:59:08", "end": "00:59:12", "text": "volunteers. Uh and then but for most"}, {"start": "00:59:10", "end": "00:59:16", "text": "Russians, the war was still somewhere"}, {"start": "00:59:12", "end": "00:59:18", "text": "over there. But by 22, the war was no"}, {"start": "00:59:16", "end": "00:59:19", "text": "longer just over there. Uh and even"}, {"start": "00:59:18", "end": "00:59:21", "text": "though still for quite a few people, it"}, {"start": "00:59:19", "end": "00:59:25", "text": "was something they didn't quite"}, {"start": "00:59:21", "end": "00:59:27", "text": "understand or fully buy into. But then,"}, {"start": "00:59:25", "end": "00:59:29", "text": "you know, the Zalinsky, who's by the"}, {"start": "00:59:27", "end": "00:59:30", "text": "way, a Russian citizen, he's got"}, {"start": "00:59:29", "end": "00:59:32", "text": "multiple citizenships. I don't think he"}, {"start": "00:59:30", "end": "00:59:34", "text": "ever gave up his Russian citizenship."}, {"start": "00:59:32", "end": "00:59:37", "text": "So, he's a traitor, too, while we're at"}, {"start": "00:59:34", "end": "00:59:41", "text": "it. Um, yeah, he's also got Israeli"}, {"start": "00:59:37", "end": "00:59:42", "text": "citizenship. I know you're shocked. Um,"}, {"start": "00:59:41", "end": "00:59:43", "text": ">> I didn't realize he has Israeli"}, {"start": "00:59:42", "end": "00:59:45", "text": "citizenship."}, {"start": "00:59:43", "end": "00:59:47", "text": ">> Oh, yeah. Yeah. His parents, you know,"}, {"start": "00:59:45", "end": "00:59:49", "text": "Zalinski, uh, his parents live in"}, {"start": "00:59:47", "end": "00:59:51", "text": "Ashkalon in a mansion that he bought"}, {"start": "00:59:49", "end": "00:59:54", "text": "him. His wife and kids live in London."}, {"start": "00:59:51", "end": "00:59:57", "text": "And according to uh uh uh investigative"}, {"start": "00:59:54", "end": "00:59:58", "text": "journalists I saw a report from"}, {"start": "00:59:57", "end": "01:00:00", "text": "Zillinsky is apparently about the ninth"}, {"start": "00:59:58", "end": "01:00:02", "text": "largest private land owner in the US."}, {"start": "01:00:00", "end": "01:00:05", "text": "Now"}, {"start": "01:00:02", "end": "01:00:07", "text": "the entire the the entire Ukrainian"}, {"start": "01:00:05", "end": "01:00:09", "text": "leadership is there to feed. This is why"}, {"start": "01:00:07", "end": "01:00:12", "text": "this war will never end as long as these"}, {"start": "01:00:09", "end": "01:00:14", "text": "people are in power or alive because"}, {"start": "01:00:12", "end": "01:00:17", "text": "they have no incentive to as the"}, {"start": "01:00:14", "end": "01:00:18", "text": "Ukrainians are meat to be sold. Uh and"}, {"start": "01:00:17", "end": "01:00:20", "text": "as long as they can keep this fight"}, {"start": "01:00:18", "end": "01:00:22", "text": "going the money keeps going. They steal"}, {"start": "01:00:20", "end": "01:00:24", "text": "their portion, siphon off the rest back"}, {"start": "01:00:22", "end": "01:00:26", "text": "to the EU, so those guys can steal"}, {"start": "01:00:24", "end": "01:00:29", "text": "pocket uh on on you know money"}, {"start": "01:00:26", "end": "01:00:31", "text": "laundering uh and kickbacks and"}, {"start": "01:00:29", "end": "01:00:34", "text": "everything's good. Yimir is a prime"}, {"start": "01:00:31", "end": "01:00:36", "text": "example. Yamir was uh minister of"}, {"start": "01:00:34", "end": "01:00:39", "text": "defense for three years, was removed"}, {"start": "01:00:36", "end": "01:00:45", "text": "last year. He's now on the uh he's now"}, {"start": "01:00:39", "end": "01:00:51", "text": "on the board of um he's now on the board"}, {"start": "01:00:45", "end": "01:00:54", "text": "of um uh security and Yamira and his"}, {"start": "01:00:51", "end": "01:00:56", "text": "whole extended family, mother-in-law,"}, {"start": "01:00:54", "end": "01:00:58", "text": "father-in-law, brother's family, etc."}, {"start": "01:00:56", "end": "01:01:00", "text": "They're all American citizens in 2016."}, {"start": "01:00:58", "end": "01:01:02", "text": "He's the only one that's still not in"}, {"start": "01:01:00", "end": "01:01:05", "text": "the US. He's there feeding off of the U"}, {"start": "01:01:02", "end": "01:01:07", "text": "of the US money going into Ukraine and"}, {"start": "01:01:05", "end": "01:01:09", "text": "siphoning it back off to the US where"}, {"start": "01:01:07", "end": "01:01:11", "text": "they're buying up property in Miami. Uh"}, {"start": "01:01:09", "end": "01:01:12", "text": "so this is the entire Ukrainian"}, {"start": "01:01:11", "end": "01:01:14", "text": "government. This is what you're dealing"}, {"start": "01:01:12", "end": "01:01:16", "text": "with. Uh there there can't be peace as"}, {"start": "01:01:14", "end": "01:01:20", "text": "long as they're making money."}, {"start": "01:01:16", "end": "01:01:22", "text": ">> That's crazy. So, where we are now in"}, {"start": "01:01:20", "end": "01:01:23", "text": "2026,"}, {"start": "01:01:22", "end": "01:01:25", "text": "uh, a lot of attention obviously has"}, {"start": "01:01:23", "end": "01:01:28", "text": "been on the Middle East and what's going"}, {"start": "01:01:25", "end": "01:01:29", "text": "to happen with Iran, but the war still"}, {"start": "01:01:28", "end": "01:01:31", "text": "rages on. And I think there's been"}, {"start": "01:01:29", "end": "01:01:33", "text": "obviously some pressure, enormous"}, {"start": "01:01:31", "end": "01:01:35", "text": "pressure, I think, on Putin's part uh,"}, {"start": "01:01:33", "end": "01:01:38", "text": "on Putin to try to end this thing."}, {"start": "01:01:35", "end": "01:01:40", "text": "Certainly, the neocons uh, in Russia,"}, {"start": "01:01:38", "end": "01:01:42", "text": "just like the neocons in the United"}, {"start": "01:01:40", "end": "01:01:45", "text": "States, want sort of an all-out war,"}, {"start": "01:01:42", "end": "01:01:47", "text": "perhaps an all-out attack on Kiev. What"}, {"start": "01:01:45", "end": "01:01:49", "text": "do you anticipate happening here? where"}, {"start": "01:01:47", "end": "01:01:51", "text": "things sit right now with the front as"}, {"start": "01:01:49", "end": "01:01:53", "text": "you've gone back multiple times and I"}, {"start": "01:01:51", "end": "01:01:55", "text": "think you've just there or you're"}, {"start": "01:01:53", "end": "01:01:57", "text": "heading back again."}, {"start": "01:01:55", "end": "01:01:59", "text": ">> Yeah. Um I'll be I'll be heading back"}, {"start": "01:01:57", "end": "01:02:01", "text": "again in in a little while. I don't"}, {"start": "01:01:59", "end": "01:02:03", "text": "publish the dates until I'm out of the"}, {"start": "01:02:01", "end": "01:02:05", "text": "place. I'm on the murder death kill list"}, {"start": "01:02:03", "end": "01:02:08", "text": "uh like a lot of people are which by the"}, {"start": "01:02:05", "end": "01:02:09", "text": "way, interesting enough uh the meritori"}, {"start": "01:02:08", "end": "01:02:12", "text": "murder death kill list has a lot of"}, {"start": "01:02:09", "end": "01:02:14", "text": "Americans on there. Uh, its servers are"}, {"start": "01:02:12", "end": "01:02:17", "text": "housed in Langley, Virginia, right"}, {"start": "01:02:14", "end": "01:02:19", "text": "beside the CIA headquarters."}, {"start": "01:02:17", "end": "01:02:19", "text": ">> Interesting little fact,"}, {"start": "01:02:19", "end": "01:02:21", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "01:02:19", "end": "01:02:23", "text": ">> Scott Rand place, people like that."}, {"start": "01:02:21", "end": "01:02:26", "text": "They're all on there."}, {"start": "01:02:23", "end": "01:02:27", "text": ">> Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I have quite a few"}, {"start": "01:02:26", "end": "01:02:28", "text": "friends that are on that list. The"}, {"start": "01:02:27", "end": "01:02:30", "text": "Ukrainian."}, {"start": "01:02:28", "end": "01:02:32", "text": ">> So, who's the Pope now?"}, {"start": "01:02:30", "end": "01:02:34", "text": ">> The American Pope is on the Ukrainian"}, {"start": "01:02:32", "end": "01:02:37", "text": "kill list. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:02:34", "end": "01:02:38", "text": ">> Housed in servers in Langley, Virginia."}, {"start": "01:02:37", "end": "01:02:41", "text": "You can't make this up. I mean, this is"}, {"start": "01:02:38", "end": "01:02:44", "text": "this is ludicrous as it is. The Russian"}, {"start": "01:02:41", "end": "01:02:48", "text": "population is angry. Um, and it wants uh"}, {"start": "01:02:44", "end": "01:02:49", "text": "a much more robust uh they, you know, I"}, {"start": "01:02:48", "end": "01:02:55", "text": "I've talked to guys from generals down"}, {"start": "01:02:49", "end": "01:02:57", "text": "to frontline uh infantry grunts. Um,"}, {"start": "01:02:55", "end": "01:02:58", "text": "they want peace, but they don't want"}, {"start": "01:02:57", "end": "01:03:01", "text": "that the thing that they fear the most"}, {"start": "01:02:58", "end": "01:03:04", "text": "is some kind of deal. They want peace as"}, {"start": "01:03:01", "end": "01:03:05", "text": "in capitilation uh from Kiev. That's"}, {"start": "01:03:04", "end": "01:03:08", "text": "what they want. They've spent too much"}, {"start": "01:03:05", "end": "01:03:11", "text": "time, blood, and and sweat uh for"}, {"start": "01:03:08", "end": "01:03:13", "text": "anything else. uh the population. Uh the"}, {"start": "01:03:11", "end": "01:03:17", "text": "question is why is Keev still standing?"}, {"start": "01:03:13", "end": "01:03:20", "text": "Uh why is uh you know"}, {"start": "01:03:17", "end": "01:03:23", "text": "the the Ukrainians or this regime they"}, {"start": "01:03:20", "end": "01:03:26", "text": "did something that uh only the Germans"}, {"start": "01:03:23", "end": "01:03:29", "text": "were able to do back in uh uh n in 1941."}, {"start": "01:03:26", "end": "01:03:32", "text": "They they taught Russians how to hate."}, {"start": "01:03:29", "end": "01:03:34", "text": "Uh and there's uh it went from looking"}, {"start": "01:03:32", "end": "01:03:36", "text": "at it as you know you're fighting your"}, {"start": "01:03:34", "end": "01:03:39", "text": "own to you know these bastards are going"}, {"start": "01:03:36", "end": "01:03:43", "text": "to get what they deserve. And Zalinski"}, {"start": "01:03:39", "end": "01:03:46", "text": "back starting in n in uh 2022 and this"}, {"start": "01:03:43", "end": "01:03:47", "text": "is testimony from uh Azul guys prisoners"}, {"start": "01:03:46", "end": "01:03:52", "text": "of war. Uh they were saying, you know,"}, {"start": "01:03:47", "end": "01:03:56", "text": "we we got an order to murder Russian PS,"}, {"start": "01:03:52", "end": "01:03:58", "text": "uh cut them up, uh make macar signs out"}, {"start": "01:03:56", "end": "01:03:59", "text": "of their bodies, do things like that, uh"}, {"start": "01:03:58", "end": "01:04:01", "text": "and then videotape it to break Russian"}, {"start": "01:03:59", "end": "01:04:03", "text": "morale. Of course, all it did was quite"}, {"start": "01:04:01", "end": "01:04:05", "text": "the opposite, just piss people off, and"}, {"start": "01:04:03", "end": "01:04:08", "text": "a lot more volunteers came in. You know,"}, {"start": "01:04:05", "end": "01:04:11", "text": "the Cra City uh terror attack, uh one of"}, {"start": "01:04:08", "end": "01:04:14", "text": "my kids almost went to that uh concert."}, {"start": "01:04:11", "end": "01:04:16", "text": "I crowned him and he didn't go. uh one"}, {"start": "01:04:14", "end": "01:04:18", "text": "of my friends daughters uh almost got"}, {"start": "01:04:16", "end": "01:04:20", "text": "killed there. She worked at that"}, {"start": "01:04:18", "end": "01:04:22", "text": "concert. The only reason she's alive is"}, {"start": "01:04:20", "end": "01:04:23", "text": "uh she got transferred to the third"}, {"start": "01:04:22", "end": "01:04:24", "text": "floor to seat people because somebody"}, {"start": "01:04:23", "end": "01:04:26", "text": "didn't show up for work. She was"}, {"start": "01:04:24", "end": "01:04:27", "text": "normally working reception. She would"}, {"start": "01:04:26", "end": "01:04:29", "text": "have been killed like the other people"}, {"start": "01:04:27", "end": "01:04:32", "text": "there. So, you know, and and that just"}, {"start": "01:04:29", "end": "01:04:34", "text": "breeds Russians don't get scared. We"}, {"start": "01:04:32", "end": "01:04:37", "text": "just get angry. Uh and that breeds the"}, {"start": "01:04:34", "end": "01:04:40", "text": "the anger level is very high in society."}, {"start": "01:04:37", "end": "01:04:43", "text": "Uh these uh attacks by drones just breed"}, {"start": "01:04:40", "end": "01:04:46", "text": "more anger and they want results. they"}, {"start": "01:04:43", "end": "01:04:48", "text": "they want uh K of crushed uh and that"}, {"start": "01:04:46", "end": "01:04:49", "text": "and that is the number one criticism"}, {"start": "01:04:48", "end": "01:04:52", "text": "toward the government is why are we"}, {"start": "01:04:49", "end": "01:04:55", "text": "going this slow why why aren't we"}, {"start": "01:04:52", "end": "01:04:58", "text": "crushing them you know Russia is not in"}, {"start": "01:04:55", "end": "01:05:00", "text": "a wartime economy it's about 7% of GDP"}, {"start": "01:04:58", "end": "01:05:03", "text": "that's going toward the military uh"}, {"start": "01:05:00", "end": "01:05:06", "text": "Russia you know wartime economy is 30 to"}, {"start": "01:05:03", "end": "01:05:09", "text": "40% of GDP Russia has a mobilization"}, {"start": "01:05:06", "end": "01:05:11", "text": "potential of uh all men and and some"}, {"start": "01:05:09", "end": "01:05:12", "text": "women with any kind of military"}, {"start": "01:05:11", "end": "01:05:16", "text": "experience"}, {"start": "01:05:12", "end": "01:05:18", "text": "of 32 million people. Uh I mean Russia"}, {"start": "01:05:16", "end": "01:05:20", "text": "has a gigantic military potential. Uh a"}, {"start": "01:05:18", "end": "01:05:22", "text": "lot of the people going in as volunteers"}, {"start": "01:05:20", "end": "01:05:24", "text": "don't have military experience. So that"}, {"start": "01:05:22", "end": "01:05:25", "text": "that actually that number is is actually"}, {"start": "01:05:24", "end": "01:05:26", "text": "growing the number of people military"}, {"start": "01:05:25", "end": "01:05:27", "text": "experience."}, {"start": "01:05:26", "end": "01:05:29", "text": ">> Do you expect a change?"}, {"start": "01:05:27", "end": "01:05:31", "text": ">> The anger is aimed"}, {"start": "01:05:29", "end": "01:05:33", "text": ">> with this this frustration and anger. Do"}, {"start": "01:05:31", "end": "01:05:34", "text": "you think that there's going to be a"}, {"start": "01:05:33", "end": "01:05:35", "text": "change?"}, {"start": "01:05:34", "end": "01:05:37", "text": ">> I mean this has been the criticism since"}, {"start": "01:05:35", "end": "01:05:40", "text": "the beginning of Putin and the generals."}, {"start": "01:05:37", "end": "01:05:42", "text": "It's like a it's a slow attrition war,"}, {"start": "01:05:40", "end": "01:05:43", "text": ">> right? that's been slowly and now we're"}, {"start": "01:05:42", "end": "01:05:44", "text": "seeing maybe you can address this"}, {"start": "01:05:43", "end": "01:05:47", "text": "because"}, {"start": "01:05:44", "end": "01:05:49", "text": ">> I would love to hear the numbers we"}, {"start": "01:05:47", "end": "01:05:52", "text": "reported a few months here on the show"}, {"start": "01:05:49", "end": "01:05:54", "text": "um uh people were not happy that we"}, {"start": "01:05:52", "end": "01:05:56", "text": "released the numbers of the the numbers"}, {"start": "01:05:54", "end": "01:05:58", "text": "of Ukrainians killed in this war the"}, {"start": "01:05:56", "end": "01:06:03", "text": "number of Russians killed the number of"}, {"start": "01:05:58", "end": "01:06:05", "text": "civilians killed um and uh I'm sure"}, {"start": "01:06:03", "end": "01:06:08", "text": "that's been months ago so those numbers"}, {"start": "01:06:05", "end": "01:06:10", "text": "have changed can you address maybe the"}, {"start": "01:06:08", "end": "01:06:12", "text": "numbers that you are familiar with is it"}, {"start": "01:06:10", "end": "01:06:16", "text": "well known within Russia the numbers of"}, {"start": "01:06:12", "end": "01:06:18", "text": "killed wounded casualties and this has"}, {"start": "01:06:16", "end": "01:06:21", "text": "been going on obviously since the start"}, {"start": "01:06:18", "end": "01:06:23", "text": "of this war the slow attrition do you do"}, {"start": "01:06:21", "end": "01:06:25", "text": "you anticipate any kind of change do you"}, {"start": "01:06:23", "end": "01:06:28", "text": "see a massive mobilization or movement"}, {"start": "01:06:25", "end": "01:06:30", "text": "towards sort of a crushing final blow or"}, {"start": "01:06:28", "end": "01:06:32", "text": "is this going to continue in this"}, {"start": "01:06:30", "end": "01:06:33", "text": "attrition"}, {"start": "01:06:32", "end": "01:06:36", "text": ">> um there's a lot of demand especially"}, {"start": "01:06:33", "end": "01:06:38", "text": "for some of the older generals uh for"}, {"start": "01:06:36", "end": "01:06:41", "text": "crushing blow you know Russia has about"}, {"start": "01:06:38", "end": "01:06:42", "text": "350,000 troops near the theater of"}, {"start": "01:06:41", "end": "01:06:44", "text": "operations but not involved in the"}, {"start": "01:06:42", "end": "01:06:46", "text": "theater of operations. Russia also does"}, {"start": "01:06:44", "end": "01:06:49", "text": "rotations. So you'll get a battalion"}, {"start": "01:06:46", "end": "01:06:51", "text": "that's on the front lines for half a"}, {"start": "01:06:49", "end": "01:06:52", "text": "year, they rotate them back out, re"}, {"start": "01:06:51", "end": "01:06:54", "text": "reconstitute them, and the next"}, {"start": "01:06:52", "end": "01:06:56", "text": "battalion goes in. So they're getting"}, {"start": "01:06:54", "end": "01:07:00", "text": "combat experience uh in a continuous"}, {"start": "01:06:56", "end": "01:07:02", "text": "fashion. Uh there's um I can't say the"}, {"start": "01:07:00", "end": "01:07:04", "text": "Russian uh casualty numbers. I don't"}, {"start": "01:07:02", "end": "01:07:05", "text": "know them exactly anyways because it's"}, {"start": "01:07:04", "end": "01:07:07", "text": "still a state secret, but I I know"}, {"start": "01:07:05", "end": "01:07:09", "text": "pretty much, but I can't say that for"}, {"start": "01:07:07", "end": "01:07:11", "text": "obvious reasons. Well, I'll say uh on"}, {"start": "01:07:09", "end": "01:07:13", "text": "average Ukrainians are losing between"}, {"start": "01:07:11", "end": "01:07:15", "text": "eight to 10 people for a Russian. You"}, {"start": "01:07:13", "end": "01:07:18", "text": "know, I have a friend of mine uh I was"}, {"start": "01:07:15", "end": "01:07:21", "text": "interviewing him. Uh he was wounded. He"}, {"start": "01:07:18", "end": "01:07:23", "text": "was an assault infantry. He was wounded."}, {"start": "01:07:21", "end": "01:07:25", "text": "Uh and after his wound, after he healed,"}, {"start": "01:07:23", "end": "01:07:27", "text": "he got transferred to the evacuation"}, {"start": "01:07:25", "end": "01:07:29", "text": "squads. And by evacuation squads, I mean"}, {"start": "01:07:27", "end": "01:07:30", "text": "the the battlefield cleanup squads."}, {"start": "01:07:29", "end": "01:07:32", "text": "They're the guys that go in there and"}, {"start": "01:07:30", "end": "01:07:34", "text": "pick up the bodies. And south of"}, {"start": "01:07:32", "end": "01:07:36", "text": "Coupens, Koopinsk is fully in Russian"}, {"start": "01:07:34", "end": "01:07:39", "text": "hands. Uh no matter what the Ukrainians"}, {"start": "01:07:36", "end": "01:07:41", "text": "say. um south of Koopinska. He was"}, {"start": "01:07:39", "end": "01:07:42", "text": "cleaning up the battlefield. He said,"}, {"start": "01:07:41", "end": "01:07:44", "text": "you know, it was a more or less"}, {"start": "01:07:42", "end": "01:07:46", "text": "stationary front and then the Russian"}, {"start": "01:07:44", "end": "01:07:47", "text": "forces pushed through. It's like, you"}, {"start": "01:07:46", "end": "01:07:49", "text": "know, I was expecting a lot more"}, {"start": "01:07:47", "end": "01:07:52", "text": "casualties from the Russian side. It's"}, {"start": "01:07:49", "end": "01:07:54", "text": "like 10 to one. Uh the Ukrainian bodies"}, {"start": "01:07:52", "end": "01:07:58", "text": "what what Ukraine does and I was talking"}, {"start": "01:07:54", "end": "01:08:00", "text": "to another friend. He was uh up in Khov"}, {"start": "01:07:58", "end": "01:08:02", "text": "where Russian forces crossed the border."}, {"start": "01:08:00", "end": "01:08:04", "text": "They took up the high higher area"}, {"start": "01:08:02", "end": "01:08:06", "text": "position"}, {"start": "01:08:04", "end": "01:08:08", "text": "in and the Ukrainians were attacking"}, {"start": "01:08:06", "end": "01:08:10", "text": "them against their fortified positions"}, {"start": "01:08:08", "end": "01:08:12", "text": "which was the whole point of the"}, {"start": "01:08:10", "end": "01:08:15", "text": "exercise. Get the Ukrainians to attack"}, {"start": "01:08:12", "end": "01:08:17", "text": "attack into uh fortified positions. He"}, {"start": "01:08:15", "end": "01:08:19", "text": "said, you know, in front of my my"}, {"start": "01:08:17", "end": "01:08:22", "text": "fighting position was a 2 kmter wide"}, {"start": "01:08:19", "end": "01:08:25", "text": "field and what the Ukrainians would do"}, {"start": "01:08:22", "end": "01:08:27", "text": "is this press ganged uh infantry"}, {"start": "01:08:25", "end": "01:08:29", "text": "particular if if you're under 30 and"}, {"start": "01:08:27", "end": "01:08:31", "text": "you're healthy, you would get picked up"}, {"start": "01:08:29", "end": "01:08:34", "text": "to go to the motorized infantry where"}, {"start": "01:08:31", "end": "01:08:36", "text": "they actually train and kind and do some"}, {"start": "01:08:34", "end": "01:08:38", "text": "preparing and investment. Everybody else"}, {"start": "01:08:36", "end": "01:08:40", "text": "or the sickly, they go to the one"}, {"start": "01:08:38", "end": "01:08:41", "text": "harrah, you know, that that's all they"}, {"start": "01:08:40", "end": "01:08:43", "text": "got to get out of your one raw and you"}, {"start": "01:08:41", "end": "01:08:45", "text": "go charge in a body wave. Uh and what"}, {"start": "01:08:43", "end": "01:08:47", "text": "they were doing is they were trying to"}, {"start": "01:08:45", "end": "01:08:49", "text": "do three four body waves of this uh"}, {"start": "01:08:47", "end": "01:08:52", "text": "mobilized you can't even call them"}, {"start": "01:08:49", "end": "01:08:54", "text": "infantry. This mobilized wave of meat uh"}, {"start": "01:08:52", "end": "01:08:57", "text": "at their positions and then bring in uh"}, {"start": "01:08:54", "end": "01:08:59", "text": "you know to soften them up and then"}, {"start": "01:08:57", "end": "01:09:01", "text": "bring in the mechanized infantry uh the"}, {"start": "01:08:59", "end": "01:09:04", "text": "ones that were trained to try to break"}, {"start": "01:09:01", "end": "01:09:06", "text": "through. He said you know he had two"}, {"start": "01:09:04", "end": "01:09:07", "text": "kilometers of of field in front of them."}, {"start": "01:09:06", "end": "01:09:09", "text": "He said we never even really fired at"}, {"start": "01:09:07", "end": "01:09:11", "text": "them. These guys would drop them off."}, {"start": "01:09:09", "end": "01:09:12", "text": "They go and start charging forward and"}, {"start": "01:09:11", "end": "01:09:14", "text": "the artillery would just destroy them"}, {"start": "01:09:12", "end": "01:09:15", "text": "halfway through. There was no one left"}, {"start": "01:09:14", "end": "01:09:18", "text": "alive. The artillery just rip them to"}, {"start": "01:09:15", "end": "01:09:20", "text": "pieces. And these guys are not prepared."}, {"start": "01:09:18", "end": "01:09:21", "text": "They are not trained. They're given a"}, {"start": "01:09:20", "end": "01:09:23", "text": "rifle. You know, they're told which end"}, {"start": "01:09:21", "end": "01:09:25", "text": "of the rifle is the business end of the"}, {"start": "01:09:23", "end": "01:09:27", "text": "rifle. Uh you know which one go which"}, {"start": "01:09:25", "end": "01:09:30", "text": "end goes into your uh to your shoulder"}, {"start": "01:09:27", "end": "01:09:31", "text": "and go attack. And that's it. Uh a lot"}, {"start": "01:09:30", "end": "01:09:34", "text": "of these guys are older. A lot of"}, {"start": "01:09:31", "end": "01:09:35", "text": "there's a lot of alcoholics, bums. That"}, {"start": "01:09:34", "end": "01:09:38", "text": "was the first people that were picking"}, {"start": "01:09:35", "end": "01:09:40", "text": "up the easy pickings. uh and then they"}, {"start": "01:09:38", "end": "01:09:44", "text": "started going after uh the uh other men"}, {"start": "01:09:40", "end": "01:09:46", "text": "and even the the the number of women in"}, {"start": "01:09:44", "end": "01:09:49", "text": "the Ukrainian army is about 13 and a"}, {"start": "01:09:46", "end": "01:09:51", "text": "half% but the key indicator is the"}, {"start": "01:09:49", "end": "01:09:55", "text": "number of the percent of women on the"}, {"start": "01:09:51", "end": "01:09:58", "text": "front lines has grown from 5% last year"}, {"start": "01:09:55", "end": "01:10:00", "text": "to 7 12% right now and there signs while"}, {"start": "01:09:58", "end": "01:10:02", "text": "they're not you know grabbing women off"}, {"start": "01:10:00", "end": "01:10:04", "text": "the streets there signs all over the"}, {"start": "01:10:02", "end": "01:10:06", "text": "place you're a woman your job is to"}, {"start": "01:10:04", "end": "01:10:08", "text": "fight for your country uh so they're"}, {"start": "01:10:06", "end": "01:10:10", "text": "they're quite literally fighting to the"}, {"start": "01:10:08", "end": "01:10:12", "text": "last Ukrainian. Uh it'll sooner or later"}, {"start": "01:10:10", "end": "01:10:15", "text": "it'll be uh the Hitler Union, I'm sorry,"}, {"start": "01:10:12", "end": "01:10:17", "text": "the the Zalinski Union or they go after"}, {"start": "01:10:15", "end": "01:10:19", "text": "the 10 year olds and the 12 year olds uh"}, {"start": "01:10:17", "end": "01:10:20", "text": "to to push them into the front lines"}, {"start": "01:10:19", "end": "01:10:22", "text": "because they're making money."}, {"start": "01:10:20", "end": "01:10:24", "text": ">> Well, we see making money off of this."}, {"start": "01:10:22", "end": "01:10:27", "text": ">> And you know, again, we've covered the"}, {"start": "01:10:24", "end": "01:10:28", "text": "numbers well over a million Ukrainians"}, {"start": "01:10:27", "end": "01:10:29", "text": "casualties."}, {"start": "01:10:28", "end": "01:10:31", "text": ">> Closer to"}, {"start": "01:10:29", "end": "01:10:32", "text": ">> Yeah. closer to two now. That's an"}, {"start": "01:10:31", "end": "01:10:34", "text": "update. Close."}, {"start": "01:10:32", "end": "01:10:37", "text": ">> That's killed. That's killed."}, {"start": "01:10:34", "end": "01:10:39", "text": ">> Wow. Well, those numbers I hadn't heard."}, {"start": "01:10:37", "end": "01:10:42", "text": ">> So, the last numbers I had were over"}, {"start": "01:10:39", "end": "01:10:43", "text": "like 1.3, but close to two million"}, {"start": "01:10:42", "end": "01:10:46", "text": "Ukrainians killed. So, when we see these"}, {"start": "01:10:43", "end": "01:10:47", "text": "videos now of Colombians,"}, {"start": "01:10:46", "end": "01:10:50", "text": ">> French,"}, {"start": "01:10:47", "end": "01:10:52", "text": ">> Poland, like, are there Ukrainians still"}, {"start": "01:10:50", "end": "01:10:54", "text": "involved in these attacks and we see"}, {"start": "01:10:52", "end": "01:10:56", "text": "them being rounded up with these"}, {"start": "01:10:54", "end": "01:10:58", "text": "conscription crews?"}, {"start": "01:10:56", "end": "01:11:00", "text": ">> But would you say, talking to your"}, {"start": "01:10:58", "end": "01:11:03", "text": "sources on the front lines, are the"}, {"start": "01:11:00", "end": "01:11:06", "text": "Russians fighting? Are these mostly like"}, {"start": "01:11:03", "end": "01:11:09", "text": "NATO soldiers now? European soldiers,"}, {"start": "01:11:06", "end": "01:11:10", "text": "uh, mercenaries from Latin America."}, {"start": "01:11:09", "end": "01:11:12", "text": ">> Yes. Yes. And yes. And you know, the"}, {"start": "01:11:10", "end": "01:11:16", "text": "first time I went up to the front lines"}, {"start": "01:11:12", "end": "01:11:18", "text": "was, uh, the 24th of December, 2022. Uh,"}, {"start": "01:11:16", "end": "01:11:22", "text": "we left Moscow was kneedeep snow. We get"}, {"start": "01:11:18", "end": "01:11:24", "text": "down to uh, Luganska Obl near Satava and"}, {"start": "01:11:22", "end": "01:11:26", "text": "it's we figure at least the big white"}, {"start": "01:11:24", "end": "01:11:28", "text": "van would be camouflaged. No, there's"}, {"start": "01:11:26", "end": "01:11:31", "text": "absolutely no snow. It's all green or"}, {"start": "01:11:28", "end": "01:11:33", "text": "brown mud. Um, and we're driving down"}, {"start": "01:11:31", "end": "01:11:34", "text": "this one road, which is a pretty high"}, {"start": "01:11:33", "end": "01:11:36", "text": "road. So, there's a valley between us"}, {"start": "01:11:34", "end": "01:11:38", "text": "and a row of hills. That's the front"}, {"start": "01:11:36", "end": "01:11:41", "text": "line. And we get to this one valley"}, {"start": "01:11:38", "end": "01:11:44", "text": "that's an east west valley and it's just"}, {"start": "01:11:41", "end": "01:11:46", "text": "a straight shot uh by any tank, you"}, {"start": "01:11:44", "end": "01:11:48", "text": "know, it's about 3 km and then we would"}, {"start": "01:11:46", "end": "01:11:50", "text": "have been just killed. And we're going"}, {"start": "01:11:48", "end": "01:11:52", "text": "really slow. It's a broken road. U we"}, {"start": "01:11:50", "end": "01:11:54", "text": "get down there. We finally get to these"}, {"start": "01:11:52", "end": "01:11:56", "text": "guys. We bring in the humanitarian aid"}, {"start": "01:11:54", "end": "01:11:59", "text": "and such and wind up spend a night"}, {"start": "01:11:56", "end": "01:12:01", "text": "there. And we're maybe 500 meters behind"}, {"start": "01:11:59", "end": "01:12:03", "text": "the front line. Uh, and you hear the"}, {"start": "01:12:01", "end": "01:12:04", "text": "Russian artillery occasionally shooting"}, {"start": "01:12:03", "end": "01:12:05", "text": "off. I'm like, \"Yeah, I was telling"}, {"start": "01:12:04", "end": "01:12:07", "text": "about this valley.\" Like, \"Oh, that's"}, {"start": "01:12:05", "end": "01:12:10", "text": "pretty dangerous.\" Like, but no, nobody"}, {"start": "01:12:07", "end": "01:12:12", "text": "shot at us or anything. And like, who"}, {"start": "01:12:10", "end": "01:12:14", "text": "who's sitting across from us? Oh, oh,"}, {"start": "01:12:12", "end": "01:12:16", "text": "they're polls. Like, oh, wait a minute."}, {"start": "01:12:14", "end": "01:12:18", "text": "24th of December, that's Catholic"}, {"start": "01:12:16", "end": "01:12:20", "text": "Christmas. That's the reason they"}, {"start": "01:12:18", "end": "01:12:21", "text": "weren't shooting at us. On the way back,"}, {"start": "01:12:20", "end": "01:12:23", "text": "we found a different road that was in"}, {"start": "01:12:21", "end": "01:12:27", "text": "the valley, so they couldn't see us. Uh"}, {"start": "01:12:23", "end": "01:12:28", "text": "but yeah, the that area and they're"}, {"start": "01:12:27", "end": "01:12:30", "text": "talking about yeah from day one there's"}, {"start": "01:12:28", "end": "01:12:32", "text": "Poles sitting across from us. Those"}, {"start": "01:12:30", "end": "01:12:35", "text": "aren't Ukrainians. Uh and there were"}, {"start": "01:12:32", "end": "01:12:38", "text": "Polish quote mercenaries except when an"}, {"start": "01:12:35", "end": "01:12:40", "text": "entire battalion becomes mercenary. It's"}, {"start": "01:12:38", "end": "01:12:42", "text": "the Poles that were doing rotations uh"}, {"start": "01:12:40", "end": "01:12:43", "text": "to fight Russia to get combat"}, {"start": "01:12:42", "end": "01:12:45", "text": "experience. And they took a lot of"}, {"start": "01:12:43", "end": "01:12:47", "text": "casualties. There's estimates of up to"}, {"start": "01:12:45", "end": "01:12:49", "text": "10,000 Poles were killed in these combat"}, {"start": "01:12:47", "end": "01:12:52", "text": "operations. I don't think there's as"}, {"start": "01:12:49", "end": "01:12:53", "text": "many anymore. But there's NATO people"}, {"start": "01:12:52", "end": "01:12:55", "text": "there constantly. Look, the guys in the"}, {"start": "01:12:53", "end": "01:12:57", "text": "highars, those are Americans. When a"}, {"start": "01:12:55", "end": "01:13:00", "text": "Himar goes kaboom, those are Americans"}, {"start": "01:12:57", "end": "01:13:02", "text": "dead. Uh those Patriot uh batteries, uh"}, {"start": "01:13:00", "end": "01:13:05", "text": "you know, Patriot battery fully uh"}, {"start": "01:13:02", "end": "01:13:06", "text": "staffed as 94 people. There's only about"}, {"start": "01:13:05", "end": "01:13:08", "text": "one or two Patriot batteries that were"}, {"start": "01:13:06", "end": "01:13:11", "text": "trained up from Ukrainians. It takes a"}, {"start": "01:13:08", "end": "01:13:14", "text": "year, 54 month uh 54 weeks to train up"}, {"start": "01:13:11", "end": "01:13:16", "text": "uh patriot mechanics, uh officers."}, {"start": "01:13:14", "end": "01:13:18", "text": ">> How many How many Americans do you think"}, {"start": "01:13:16", "end": "01:13:21", "text": "have been killed?"}, {"start": "01:13:18", "end": "01:13:24", "text": ">> Uh at least a thousand in my opinion."}, {"start": "01:13:21", "end": "01:13:26", "text": "Um, and and that's between uh special"}, {"start": "01:13:24", "end": "01:13:28", "text": "forces, that's between guys that have"}, {"start": "01:13:26", "end": "01:13:30", "text": "been sent there as instructors, that's"}, {"start": "01:13:28", "end": "01:13:32", "text": "between NATO officers and staffs that"}, {"start": "01:13:30", "end": "01:13:34", "text": "have been and that's between guys that"}, {"start": "01:13:32", "end": "01:13:35", "text": "are quote mercenaries. I mean, there are"}, {"start": "01:13:34", "end": "01:13:37", "text": "mercenaries, don't get me wrong. There's"}, {"start": "01:13:35", "end": "01:13:39", "text": "plenty of American mercs. Most of those"}, {"start": "01:13:37", "end": "01:13:41", "text": "left. If they survived the first uh"}, {"start": "01:13:39", "end": "01:13:43", "text": "encounters, they left because they were"}, {"start": "01:13:41", "end": "01:13:44", "text": "promised a safari. They were promised"}, {"start": "01:13:43", "end": "01:13:46", "text": "the Russians are running. They're"}, {"start": "01:13:44", "end": "01:13:48", "text": "selling their tanks for 10,000 bucks and"}, {"start": "01:13:46", "end": "01:13:50", "text": "a bottle of vodka. Uh, and when they got"}, {"start": "01:13:48", "end": "01:13:53", "text": "there, you know, it's not Iraq. It's not"}, {"start": "01:13:50", "end": "01:13:56", "text": "Afghanistan. This is real conventional"}, {"start": "01:13:53", "end": "01:13:59", "text": "war. There is no pizza night uh back on"}, {"start": "01:13:56", "end": "01:14:01", "text": "the firebase. There is no you don't have"}, {"start": "01:13:59", "end": "01:14:02", "text": "dominance of artillery. Quite the"}, {"start": "01:14:01", "end": "01:14:05", "text": "opposite. The Russian artillery was"}, {"start": "01:14:02", "end": "01:14:08", "text": "always 7 to 10 to one compared to the"}, {"start": "01:14:05", "end": "01:14:11", "text": "Ukrainian artillery. Uh Russia had"}, {"start": "01:14:08", "end": "01:14:13", "text": "aviation, air control. Uh aviation is"}, {"start": "01:14:11", "end": "01:14:16", "text": "dropping bombs, tanks are coming your"}, {"start": "01:14:13", "end": "01:14:19", "text": "way. uh it was a whole different war"}, {"start": "01:14:16", "end": "01:14:22", "text": "from uh the uh insurgency warfare in"}, {"start": "01:14:19", "end": "01:14:24", "text": "Iraq or in Afghanistan in those areas."}, {"start": "01:14:22", "end": "01:14:26", "text": "So a lot of those guys they left the"}, {"start": "01:14:24", "end": "01:14:29", "text": "actual mercs the real mercs they left"}, {"start": "01:14:26", "end": "01:14:32", "text": "because you know dead mercs don't spend"}, {"start": "01:14:29", "end": "01:14:34", "text": "money. Uh you're not there the people"}, {"start": "01:14:32", "end": "01:14:36", "text": "that came for ideological reasons that's"}, {"start": "01:14:34", "end": "01:14:37", "text": "a different case. Uh but a lot of those"}, {"start": "01:14:36", "end": "01:14:39", "text": "came without military training and the"}, {"start": "01:14:37", "end": "01:14:41", "text": "Ukrainians just threw them in the front"}, {"start": "01:14:39", "end": "01:14:44", "text": "lines in a meat grinder and they died uh"}, {"start": "01:14:41", "end": "01:14:47", "text": "in the first combat experience. So you"}, {"start": "01:14:44", "end": "01:14:48", "text": "know this is what you're looking at. Uh"}, {"start": "01:14:47", "end": "01:14:50", "text": "the"}, {"start": "01:14:48", "end": "01:14:53", "text": "the Russian military has seriously"}, {"start": "01:14:50", "end": "01:14:55", "text": "reorganized uh too um you know one of"}, {"start": "01:14:53", "end": "01:14:59", "text": "the problems with the Russian military"}, {"start": "01:14:55", "end": "01:15:01", "text": "when it first came in um on the one side"}, {"start": "01:14:59", "end": "01:15:02", "text": "every officer wanted his glory because"}, {"start": "01:15:01", "end": "01:15:04", "text": "they thought this was going to be short."}, {"start": "01:15:02", "end": "01:15:06", "text": "So they were taking uh uh a lot of risks"}, {"start": "01:15:04", "end": "01:15:08", "text": "they shouldn't have been taken or"}, {"start": "01:15:06", "end": "01:15:11", "text": "getting them their own people killed"}, {"start": "01:15:08", "end": "01:15:13", "text": "trying to find glory. That doesn't exist"}, {"start": "01:15:11", "end": "01:15:14", "text": "anymore. Everybody realize it's a long"}, {"start": "01:15:13", "end": "01:15:18", "text": "fight and we're going to have to do the"}, {"start": "01:15:14", "end": "01:15:20", "text": "smart uh two uh at the beginning of it"}, {"start": "01:15:18", "end": "01:15:22", "text": "just to get a a fire mission, an"}, {"start": "01:15:20", "end": "01:15:23", "text": "artillery fire mission, you get three"}, {"start": "01:15:22", "end": "01:15:25", "text": "generals to sign off on something like"}, {"start": "01:15:23", "end": "01:15:27", "text": "that. That would take up to an hour. Now"}, {"start": "01:15:25", "end": "01:15:29", "text": "if you're attacking a uh an enemy"}, {"start": "01:15:27", "end": "01:15:31", "text": "position, yeah, it's not great, but you"}, {"start": "01:15:29", "end": "01:15:32", "text": "can can kind of wait. But if the enemy"}, {"start": "01:15:31", "end": "01:15:35", "text": "is attacking you, you need a fire"}, {"start": "01:15:32", "end": "01:15:38", "text": "mission the next minute uh not in 3"}, {"start": "01:15:35", "end": "01:15:41", "text": "hours. Now you can get uh you can get a"}, {"start": "01:15:38", "end": "01:15:44", "text": "strategic missile uh fire mission within"}, {"start": "01:15:41", "end": "01:15:46", "text": "10 minutes. Artillery is assigned it's a"}, {"start": "01:15:44", "end": "01:15:48", "text": "direct call to artillery as it should"}, {"start": "01:15:46", "end": "01:15:51", "text": "have been. They cut out that entire"}, {"start": "01:15:48", "end": "01:15:53", "text": "bureaucratic portion is gone. Now you"}, {"start": "01:15:51", "end": "01:15:55", "text": "need a fire mission, you get a fire if"}, {"start": "01:15:53", "end": "01:15:56", "text": "you've got a artillery assigned to you,"}, {"start": "01:15:55", "end": "01:15:59", "text": "you get a fire mission in a couple of"}, {"start": "01:15:56", "end": "01:16:00", "text": "minutes uh incoming. Like I said, you"}, {"start": "01:15:59", "end": "01:16:03", "text": "can get an Iscandar missile coming into"}, {"start": "01:16:00", "end": "01:16:05", "text": "on target within 10 minutes uh of call"}, {"start": "01:16:03", "end": "01:16:09", "text": "and that's a strategic level or theater"}, {"start": "01:16:05", "end": "01:16:11", "text": "level uh asset. So that's it's"}, {"start": "01:16:09", "end": "01:16:12", "text": "readapted. The last time I went down"}, {"start": "01:16:11", "end": "01:16:15", "text": "there, you know, the Russian military is"}, {"start": "01:16:12", "end": "01:16:17", "text": "seriously readapting the drone warfare."}, {"start": "01:16:15", "end": "01:16:19", "text": "Uh they're creating it should have been"}, {"start": "01:16:17", "end": "01:16:22", "text": "done earlier, but it's being done now."}, {"start": "01:16:19", "end": "01:16:24", "text": "uh they're creating uh drone battalions"}, {"start": "01:16:22", "end": "01:16:27", "text": "because what you had before is uh every"}, {"start": "01:16:24", "end": "01:16:30", "text": "uh platoon, company, battalion, they had"}, {"start": "01:16:27", "end": "01:16:32", "text": "their own drone section. Uh whatever"}, {"start": "01:16:30", "end": "01:16:34", "text": "drones they got, some were manufactured,"}, {"start": "01:16:32", "end": "01:16:36", "text": "some people brought them, some they made"}, {"start": "01:16:34", "end": "01:16:38", "text": "themselves, you know, different"}, {"start": "01:16:36", "end": "01:16:40", "text": "trainings, different types of equipment,"}, {"start": "01:16:38", "end": "01:16:42", "text": "there was nothing standardized. And when"}, {"start": "01:16:40", "end": "01:16:43", "text": "you have drones, you have really"}, {"start": "01:16:42", "end": "01:16:46", "text": "different drones for different missions."}, {"start": "01:16:43", "end": "01:16:49", "text": "You have recon drones. You have uh"}, {"start": "01:16:46", "end": "01:16:53", "text": "bombing bomber drones that drop mines or"}, {"start": "01:16:49", "end": "01:16:55", "text": "drop mortar shells or drop uh you have"}, {"start": "01:16:53", "end": "01:16:59", "text": "mining drones that'll come down and mine"}, {"start": "01:16:55", "end": "01:17:01", "text": "roads. You have uh the uh the kamicazi"}, {"start": "01:16:59", "end": "01:17:03", "text": "drones. You have resupply drones that"}, {"start": "01:17:01", "end": "01:17:06", "text": "resupply guys to the front or supply"}, {"start": "01:17:03", "end": "01:17:08", "text": "civilians that are also used to lead"}, {"start": "01:17:06", "end": "01:17:10", "text": "civilians out of the battlefield. So,"}, {"start": "01:17:08", "end": "01:17:11", "text": "you've got very different missions. You"}, {"start": "01:17:10", "end": "01:17:13", "text": "need different equipment, but these guys"}, {"start": "01:17:11", "end": "01:17:15", "text": "weren't organized. Now everything's"}, {"start": "01:17:13", "end": "01:17:17", "text": "being organized on a battalion level."}, {"start": "01:17:15", "end": "01:17:20", "text": "You have a you have specialized"}, {"start": "01:17:17", "end": "01:17:22", "text": "companies, specialized platoon of drone"}, {"start": "01:17:20", "end": "01:17:25", "text": "operators. Uh and it's they standardized"}, {"start": "01:17:22", "end": "01:17:27", "text": "the training. Uh so everything is it"}, {"start": "01:17:25", "end": "01:17:29", "text": "should have been done two years ago, but"}, {"start": "01:17:27", "end": "01:17:32", "text": "it is being done now. Uh and it's it's"}, {"start": "01:17:29", "end": "01:17:33", "text": "there now. Uh and I've seen it with my"}, {"start": "01:17:32", "end": "01:17:36", "text": "own eyes, you know. I've se I've seen"}, {"start": "01:17:33", "end": "01:17:37", "text": "the the training facilities. Um and it"}, {"start": "01:17:36", "end": "01:17:39", "text": "it's pretty high-tech. I mean, they'll"}, {"start": "01:17:37", "end": "01:17:41", "text": "they'll modify and print out their own"}, {"start": "01:17:39", "end": "01:17:44", "text": "drones on near the front to see what"}, {"start": "01:17:41", "end": "01:17:46", "text": "they need. So you've got a new idea."}, {"start": "01:17:44", "end": "01:17:48", "text": "Hey, why don't we do a drone like this,"}, {"start": "01:17:46", "end": "01:17:50", "text": "uh, you can go print it out, put it"}, {"start": "01:17:48", "end": "01:17:53", "text": "together, and go test it. Uh, so it's"}, {"start": "01:17:50", "end": "01:17:54", "text": "decentralized, uh, in its own way."}, {"start": "01:17:53", "end": "01:17:57", "text": ">> And if it works, then the model can get"}, {"start": "01:17:54", "end": "01:17:58", "text": "passed on to a factory that starts"}, {"start": "01:17:57", "end": "01:18:01", "text": "manufacturing them out."}, {"start": "01:17:58", "end": "01:18:04", "text": ">> That's incredible. So literally 3D"}, {"start": "01:18:01", "end": "01:18:06", "text": "printing drones on the fly in these"}, {"start": "01:18:04", "end": "01:18:07", "text": "drone battalions to carry out and modify"}, {"start": "01:18:06", "end": "01:18:08", "text": "these changes. That's"}, {"start": "01:18:07", "end": "01:18:08", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"start": "01:18:08", "end": "01:18:10", "text": ">> Incredible."}, {"start": "01:18:08", "end": "01:18:13", "text": ">> Technology is flying. Uh, I mean that"}, {"start": "01:18:10", "end": "01:18:13", "text": "that technology is flying at incredible"}, {"start": "01:18:13", "end": "01:18:15", "text": "rates."}, {"start": "01:18:13", "end": "01:18:17", "text": ">> Well, war they always say is a great"}, {"start": "01:18:15", "end": "01:18:19", "text": "catalyst for these things. Um,"}, {"start": "01:18:17", "end": "01:18:20", "text": ">> you know, I I'll get you out of here on"}, {"start": "01:18:19", "end": "01:18:22", "text": "this. You've been so gracious with your"}, {"start": "01:18:20", "end": "01:18:24", "text": "time. What do you how do you think that"}, {"start": "01:18:22", "end": "01:18:27", "text": "this ends? Um, now that we have this"}, {"start": "01:18:24", "end": "01:18:30", "text": "rise of the European theater and what"}, {"start": "01:18:27", "end": "01:18:32", "text": "Europe plans to do against Russia? Um,"}, {"start": "01:18:30", "end": "01:18:35", "text": "do you think that there's an end to the"}, {"start": "01:18:32", "end": "01:18:38", "text": "Ukraine war or this gets folded into a"}, {"start": "01:18:35", "end": "01:18:41", "text": "European versus Russia war?"}, {"start": "01:18:38", "end": "01:18:44", "text": "Um, Clayton, this is the scary part. Uh,"}, {"start": "01:18:41", "end": "01:18:46", "text": "and and we're almost out of time. Um,"}, {"start": "01:18:44", "end": "01:18:47", "text": "we've got one of two options right now."}, {"start": "01:18:46", "end": "01:18:50", "text": "Either a conventional war or a nuclear"}, {"start": "01:18:47", "end": "01:18:52", "text": "war. Uh, and and there's not much of a a"}, {"start": "01:18:50", "end": "01:18:55", "text": "chance. What what the Europeans have"}, {"start": "01:18:52", "end": "01:18:57", "text": "done is they've decided uh to to go in,"}, {"start": "01:18:55", "end": "01:18:58", "text": "they can't build tanks because they"}, {"start": "01:18:57", "end": "01:18:59", "text": "don't have the capacity, they don't have"}, {"start": "01:18:58", "end": "01:19:01", "text": "the steel production, they don't have"}, {"start": "01:18:59", "end": "01:19:03", "text": "the gas uh that they need and everything"}, {"start": "01:19:01", "end": "01:19:05", "text": "else, but they can build drones. Drones"}, {"start": "01:19:03", "end": "01:19:07", "text": "are, you know, they're building"}, {"start": "01:19:05", "end": "01:19:09", "text": "strategic level drones that get the deep"}, {"start": "01:19:07", "end": "01:19:10", "text": "penetration. They're basically small."}, {"start": "01:19:09", "end": "01:19:13", "text": "They get up to the size of small"}, {"start": "01:19:10", "end": "01:19:16", "text": "Cessnas. Most of them are something in"}, {"start": "01:19:13", "end": "01:19:19", "text": "in between. Um their job right now, the"}, {"start": "01:19:16", "end": "01:19:21", "text": "Russian anti-aircraft systems are"}, {"start": "01:19:19", "end": "01:19:23", "text": "handling it. Uh there's plans on uh and"}, {"start": "01:19:21", "end": "01:19:25", "text": "this is open source, so I'm not I'm"}, {"start": "01:19:23", "end": "01:19:28", "text": "giving away any secrets. There's pos"}, {"start": "01:19:25", "end": "01:19:29", "text": "plans of possibly building rows of radar"}, {"start": "01:19:28", "end": "01:19:32", "text": "station towers. You know, you can do a"}, {"start": "01:19:29", "end": "01:19:34", "text": "cheap radar that goes 10 kilometers and"}, {"start": "01:19:32", "end": "01:19:36", "text": "the next one goes 10 km so on in radius."}, {"start": "01:19:34", "end": "01:19:37", "text": "And you can build these types of towers"}, {"start": "01:19:36", "end": "01:19:39", "text": "all over to give warning that"}, {"start": "01:19:37", "end": "01:19:41", "text": "something's coming. Uh cuz Russia's huge"}, {"start": "01:19:39", "end": "01:19:44", "text": "and you always find a corridor that"}, {"start": "01:19:41", "end": "01:19:47", "text": "isn't covered uh somewhere. U but"}, {"start": "01:19:44", "end": "01:19:50", "text": "they've decided to mass manufacture"}, {"start": "01:19:47", "end": "01:19:51", "text": "strategic level drones to overpower the"}, {"start": "01:19:50", "end": "01:19:53", "text": "Russian system. And we've seen what"}, {"start": "01:19:51", "end": "01:19:56", "text": "happens when they get into anywhere. the"}, {"start": "01:19:53", "end": "01:19:59", "text": "first thing they start striking uh is uh"}, {"start": "01:19:56", "end": "01:20:01", "text": "really they they also go it's not just"}, {"start": "01:19:59", "end": "01:20:03", "text": "the fuel refineries but most of the time"}, {"start": "01:20:01", "end": "01:20:04", "text": "in the refiners they're not hitting the"}, {"start": "01:20:03", "end": "01:20:06", "text": "refineries they're hitting the fuel"}, {"start": "01:20:04", "end": "01:20:08", "text": "storage tanks which are easy to replace"}, {"start": "01:20:06", "end": "01:20:10", "text": "they just let them burn out they make a"}, {"start": "01:20:08", "end": "01:20:12", "text": "big picture of a big flame and lots of"}, {"start": "01:20:10", "end": "01:20:14", "text": "smoke but they burn out you just replace"}, {"start": "01:20:12", "end": "01:20:16", "text": "one within about a week uh put a new one"}, {"start": "01:20:14", "end": "01:20:19", "text": "in and and you're back doing business"}, {"start": "01:20:16", "end": "01:20:20", "text": "refineries you know hundreds of"}, {"start": "01:20:19", "end": "01:20:23", "text": "kilometers of pipe they're all under"}, {"start": "01:20:20", "end": "01:20:24", "text": "pressure valves are computerized as soon"}, {"start": "01:20:23", "end": "01:20:25", "text": "soon as something hits and the pressure"}, {"start": "01:20:24", "end": "01:20:27", "text": "drops, the computer just closes the"}, {"start": "01:20:25", "end": "01:20:29", "text": "valve and that's it. And then you go"}, {"start": "01:20:27", "end": "01:20:31", "text": "replace the pipe or the vessel uh that's"}, {"start": "01:20:29", "end": "01:20:32", "text": "damaged. So, it's hard to destroy a"}, {"start": "01:20:31", "end": "01:20:35", "text": "refiner. I mean, they're gigantic"}, {"start": "01:20:32", "end": "01:20:36", "text": "facilities, but they've gone after early"}, {"start": "01:20:35", "end": "01:20:39", "text": "warning radar systems. They've gone"}, {"start": "01:20:36", "end": "01:20:41", "text": "after nuclear strategic bombers. Uh they"}, {"start": "01:20:39", "end": "01:20:43", "text": "probably go after nuclear submarines and"}, {"start": "01:20:41", "end": "01:20:45", "text": "port if they have a chance. So, what you"}, {"start": "01:20:43", "end": "01:20:48", "text": "have now considering every single"}, {"start": "01:20:45", "end": "01:20:51", "text": "nuclear power except the US and Israel"}, {"start": "01:20:48", "end": "01:20:53", "text": "has a second strike policy. US has a"}, {"start": "01:20:51", "end": "01:20:54", "text": "first strike policy. The Israel official"}, {"start": "01:20:53", "end": "01:20:57", "text": "doesn't have nuclear weapons, but they"}, {"start": "01:20:54", "end": "01:20:59", "text": "have a first strike policy. Um, but what"}, {"start": "01:20:57", "end": "01:21:01", "text": "you have, the problem is with nuclear"}, {"start": "01:20:59", "end": "01:21:03", "text": "superpowers don't lose wars. They just"}, {"start": "01:21:01", "end": "01:21:05", "text": "exterminate everybody. If that comes"}, {"start": "01:21:03", "end": "01:21:08", "text": "down to that, that's the reality of a"}, {"start": "01:21:05", "end": "01:21:10", "text": "nuclear superpower that uh is blind and"}, {"start": "01:21:08", "end": "01:21:12", "text": "does not know when it's coming. So, if"}, {"start": "01:21:10", "end": "01:21:15", "text": "the it would be one thing the US had a"}, {"start": "01:21:12", "end": "01:21:17", "text": "second hit, second strike policy, but it"}, {"start": "01:21:15", "end": "01:21:19", "text": "doesn't. It has a first strike policy."}, {"start": "01:21:17", "end": "01:21:22", "text": "So, if you get to the point where Russia"}, {"start": "01:21:19", "end": "01:21:24", "text": "is blind and doesn't know if it's about"}, {"start": "01:21:22", "end": "01:21:27", "text": "to be hit by nuclear weapons from the"}, {"start": "01:21:24", "end": "01:21:31", "text": "US, nuclear logic dictates use it or"}, {"start": "01:21:27", "end": "01:21:32", "text": "lose it. Uh either wait and get hit and"}, {"start": "01:21:31", "end": "01:21:34", "text": "then you know if you survive, you might"}, {"start": "01:21:32", "end": "01:21:37", "text": "be able to do something back to the the"}, {"start": "01:21:34", "end": "01:21:40", "text": "guys that hit you or the the pressure"}, {"start": "01:21:37", "end": "01:21:42", "text": "becomes don't wait. We still have it."}, {"start": "01:21:40", "end": "01:21:44", "text": "Use everything we have and it's not"}, {"start": "01:21:42", "end": "01:21:47", "text": "going to control one or two with a blind"}, {"start": "01:21:44", "end": "01:21:50", "text": "nuclear superpower. you are going to get"}, {"start": "01:21:47", "end": "01:21:51", "text": "full release of all nuclear ordinance,"}, {"start": "01:21:50", "end": "01:21:52", "text": "which would mean basically the northern"}, {"start": "01:21:51", "end": "01:21:55", "text": "hemisphere would just die. There would"}, {"start": "01:21:52", "end": "01:21:57", "text": "just be nothing left. I mean, if you"}, {"start": "01:21:55", "end": "01:21:58", "text": "look at realistically what a nuclear"}, {"start": "01:21:57", "end": "01:22:02", "text": "weapon does as opposed to what Hollywood"}, {"start": "01:21:58", "end": "01:22:04", "text": "makes it out of. Um, so this brings"}, {"start": "01:22:02", "end": "01:22:06", "text": "Russia to one of two choices. Uh, either"}, {"start": "01:22:04", "end": "01:22:08", "text": "conventionally hit these manufacturing"}, {"start": "01:22:06", "end": "01:22:11", "text": "facilities in Europe and then risk a"}, {"start": "01:22:08", "end": "01:22:12", "text": "conventional war with Europe or didd"}, {"start": "01:22:11", "end": "01:22:14", "text": "around for another couple months and"}, {"start": "01:22:12", "end": "01:22:15", "text": "wind up in a nuclear war. I know"}, {"start": "01:22:14", "end": "01:22:17", "text": "conventional war is obviously better"}, {"start": "01:22:15", "end": "01:22:19", "text": "than a nuclear war, but I think this is"}, {"start": "01:22:17", "end": "01:22:21", "text": "the the the point that we've gotten to"}, {"start": "01:22:19", "end": "01:22:23", "text": "and the Europeans seem to be extremely"}, {"start": "01:22:21", "end": "01:22:25", "text": "ignorant of where they're heading. Or"}, {"start": "01:22:23", "end": "01:22:27", "text": "maybe that is what they want. Uh because"}, {"start": "01:22:25", "end": "01:22:29", "text": "look, you know, Europe is in a screwed"}, {"start": "01:22:27", "end": "01:22:31", "text": "up position. They have a fuel crisis."}, {"start": "01:22:29", "end": "01:22:33", "text": "They're about to have a food crisis."}, {"start": "01:22:31", "end": "01:22:34", "text": "Their economies are collapsing. And you"}, {"start": "01:22:33", "end": "01:22:36", "text": "know, the saying goes, when all else"}, {"start": "01:22:34", "end": "01:22:39", "text": "fails, they take you to war. The only"}, {"start": "01:22:36", "end": "01:22:42", "text": "way these European uh uh I I call them"}, {"start": "01:22:39", "end": "01:22:44", "text": "parasites, inbred parasites of the"}, {"start": "01:22:42", "end": "01:22:47", "text": "European elite, the only way they"}, {"start": "01:22:44", "end": "01:22:49", "text": "survive uh their own people uh is to"}, {"start": "01:22:47", "end": "01:22:51", "text": "start a war."}, {"start": "01:22:49", "end": "01:22:52", "text": "You know, try explaining to your"}, {"start": "01:22:51", "end": "01:22:54", "text": "population why you've destroyed their"}, {"start": "01:22:52", "end": "01:22:56", "text": "culture, you've destroyed their economy,"}, {"start": "01:22:54", "end": "01:22:58", "text": "you've destroyed their way of life,"}, {"start": "01:22:56", "end": "01:22:59", "text": "you've uh you've flooded them with"}, {"start": "01:22:58", "end": "01:23:02", "text": "immigrants that have nothing in common"}, {"start": "01:22:59", "end": "01:23:03", "text": "with them and aren't assimilating."}, {"start": "01:23:02", "end": "01:23:06", "text": "You've destroyed everything. Oh, and"}, {"start": "01:23:03", "end": "01:23:07", "text": "you've gotten really rich off of it. Uh,"}, {"start": "01:23:06", "end": "01:23:08", "text": "now people tend to get pissed off when"}, {"start": "01:23:07", "end": "01:23:11", "text": "they're hungry. When their kids are"}, {"start": "01:23:08", "end": "01:23:13", "text": "starving, they get really pissed off."}, {"start": "01:23:11", "end": "01:23:15", "text": "So, yeah, that's that's the way I see it"}, {"start": "01:23:13", "end": "01:23:17", "text": "right now. We're we're at a very very"}, {"start": "01:23:15", "end": "01:23:19", "text": "dangerous point. And either way, it"}, {"start": "01:23:17", "end": "01:23:23", "text": "leads to to war. It's just a matter what"}, {"start": "01:23:19", "end": "01:23:25", "text": "kind of war."}, {"start": "01:23:23", "end": "01:23:30", "text": ">> Where can people find your work?"}, {"start": "01:23:25", "end": "01:23:31", "text": ">> Um, I am on X at Stannis Kivnnik. We we"}, {"start": "01:23:30", "end": "01:23:36", "text": "couldn't fit the whole name. We Russians"}, {"start": "01:23:31", "end": "01:23:38", "text": "have long names. Um, I am on YouTube at"}, {"start": "01:23:36", "end": "01:23:41", "text": "Mr. Slavic Man, all one word, Slavic"}, {"start": "01:23:38", "end": "01:23:43", "text": "with a K. Uh, I'm on Substack at"}, {"start": "01:23:41", "end": "01:23:45", "text": "Zmegarinich."}, {"start": "01:23:43", "end": "01:23:47", "text": "Uh, which is the the only cool name that"}, {"start": "01:23:45", "end": "01:23:49", "text": "was left. It was Russian. Um, it's a"}, {"start": "01:23:47", "end": "01:23:53", "text": "it's a three-headed dragon in and Slavic"}, {"start": "01:23:49", "end": "01:23:55", "text": "mythology. Uh, I am on Telegram. Uh, the"}, {"start": "01:23:53", "end": "01:23:58", "text": "Russian channel is Stasatna and the"}, {"start": "01:23:55", "end": "01:23:59", "text": "English channel is Stas was there."}, {"start": "01:23:58", "end": "01:24:01", "text": ">> Well, we'll put all those in the links"}, {"start": "01:23:59", "end": "01:24:04", "text": "below. I you know this has really been"}, {"start": "01:24:01", "end": "01:24:05", "text": "eyeopening and fascinating today and I"}, {"start": "01:24:04", "end": "01:24:08", "text": "hope that people will pay attention to"}, {"start": "01:24:05", "end": "01:24:10", "text": "what's coming here. Um some pretty"}, {"start": "01:24:08", "end": "01:24:12", "text": "ominous messages about where Europe is"}, {"start": "01:24:10", "end": "01:24:15", "text": "heading and where this world is heading"}, {"start": "01:24:12", "end": "01:24:17", "text": "with trying to you know some sort of a"}, {"start": "01:24:15", "end": "01:24:19", "text": "conventional war against Russia in a"}, {"start": "01:24:17", "end": "01:24:21", "text": "much larger capacity or a nuclear war."}, {"start": "01:24:19", "end": "01:24:23", "text": "Um and I think at this point you're"}, {"start": "01:24:21", "end": "01:24:25", "text": "right it's inevitable. Um"}, {"start": "01:24:23", "end": "01:24:26", "text": ">> look if I can just add one last thing"}, {"start": "01:24:25", "end": "01:24:28", "text": "you know Russia has no interest in"}, {"start": "01:24:26", "end": "01:24:30", "text": "invading Europe there. Well, first of"}, {"start": "01:24:28", "end": "01:24:32", "text": "all, Russia has 42% of Europe. If we're"}, {"start": "01:24:30", "end": "01:24:33", "text": "going to talk about the European"}, {"start": "01:24:32", "end": "01:24:35", "text": "subcontinent"}, {"start": "01:24:33", "end": "01:24:37", "text": "of great Europe, we and we've got the"}, {"start": "01:24:35", "end": "01:24:39", "text": "best part. We've got the the black"}, {"start": "01:24:37", "end": "01:24:40", "text": "earth. We've got the the minerals. We've"}, {"start": "01:24:39", "end": "01:24:42", "text": "got everything we need. We're fighting"}, {"start": "01:24:40", "end": "01:24:44", "text": "right now for our historic homelands uh"}, {"start": "01:24:42", "end": "01:24:46", "text": "that that were that the communists"}, {"start": "01:24:44", "end": "01:24:49", "text": "stripped out of Russia and created this"}, {"start": "01:24:46", "end": "01:24:51", "text": "Ukrainian state uh back in the 20s uh"}, {"start": "01:24:49", "end": "01:24:54", "text": "last century. That's what we're fighting"}, {"start": "01:24:51", "end": "01:24:56", "text": "for. Uh we don't need Europe. We don't"}, {"start": "01:24:54", "end": "01:24:58", "text": "want Europe. Uh I mean, the non-Russian"}, {"start": "01:24:56", "end": "01:25:01", "text": "portion of Europe, you know, It's it's a"}, {"start": "01:24:58", "end": "01:25:04", "text": "collapsed economy. It's to to most"}, {"start": "01:25:01", "end": "01:25:06", "text": "Russians, it's a degenerate culture. Uh"}, {"start": "01:25:04", "end": "01:25:08", "text": "there's nothing there we want. If you"}, {"start": "01:25:06", "end": "01:25:10", "text": "want to go see old castles, you buy a"}, {"start": "01:25:08", "end": "01:25:12", "text": "ticket, you go fly there as a tourist,"}, {"start": "01:25:10", "end": "01:25:14", "text": "go, \"Oh, wow. Wow.\" Buy some souvenirs"}, {"start": "01:25:12", "end": "01:25:16", "text": "and fly back. Nobody wants to invade"}, {"start": "01:25:14", "end": "01:25:18", "text": "Europe. Uh the Europeans, I mean, I've"}, {"start": "01:25:16", "end": "01:25:19", "text": "got friends in Ireland. They're being"}, {"start": "01:25:18", "end": "01:25:21", "text": "told, \"Oh, the Russians are going to go"}, {"start": "01:25:19", "end": "01:25:23", "text": "through Europe and swim to Ireland, take"}, {"start": "01:25:21", "end": "01:25:27", "text": "Ireland.\" Why would we want to do that?"}, {"start": "01:25:23", "end": "01:25:30", "text": "Why? Just a bit of logic. Why? We don't"}, {"start": "01:25:27", "end": "01:25:32", "text": "need anything there."}, {"start": "01:25:30", "end": "01:25:34", "text": "The unfortunate truth or maybe the"}, {"start": "01:25:32", "end": "01:25:35", "text": "fortunate truth"}, {"start": "01:25:34", "end": "01:25:38", "text": ">> and Putin said it many times but of"}, {"start": "01:25:35", "end": "01:25:40", "text": "course the propaganda persists. Great to"}, {"start": "01:25:38", "end": "01:25:43", "text": "see you. Thank you so much for this."}, {"start": "01:25:40", "end": "01:25:45", "text": "It's really been enlightening. Uh I I"}, {"start": "01:25:43", "end": "01:25:46", "text": "learned quite a bit. So thank you very"}, {"start": "01:25:45", "end": "01:25:48", "text": "much."}, {"start": "01:25:46", "end": "01:25:50", "text": ">> Thank you. Thank you very much."}, {"start": "01:25:48", "end": "01:25:52", "text": ">> Thank you so much for watching Redacted."}, {"start": "01:25:50", "end": "01:25:54", "text": "We'd love for you to subscribe to the"}, {"start": "01:25:52", "end": "01:25:56", "text": "channel. It's totally free if you want"}, {"start": "01:25:54", "end": "01:25:57", "text": "to follow us or subscribe. 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[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "Well, is there a deal or no deal? Deal"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "or no deal in Iran? And what will the"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "economic fallout be realistically here?"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "Because we've been in this like"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "artificial fake paper world for quite a"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "while now. Americans are feeling it at"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "the pump, of course. But at some point,"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "all of this fake paper, the covering"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "over, it's almost like putting up"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "wallpaper over some really bad stuff,"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "like black mold on your wall, and you"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "just put up wallpaper over top of it."}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "Eventually, you're going to get sick."}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "Eventually, you could wind up in the"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "hospital. And that's where we are right"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "now. The American economy is nearing"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "that point. Brandon Wikard, host of the"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "NATSC podcast, he's been nailing this"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "for months now, not only on our show,"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "but back on Tucker's show and otherwise,"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "and then the mainstream media comes out"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "a few months later and then prints it"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "and then suddenly it's real. Like, it's"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "so amazing how you, you know, now that"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "the mainstream media has covered it,"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "it's real news. But when Brandon covered"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "it and broke the story two months"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "earlier, they ignored it. Brandon, great"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "to see you. Welcome back to the show."}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:04", "text": ">> Well, thanks for having me. And that was"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "a great segment with my buddy uh Larry"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "Johnson. And I'll just plug it here."}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "He's going to be on my show uh Monday."}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "Uh so it was a lovely pre preview. Thank"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "you for for letting me hear that. Um,"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "but uh, you know, we in the media, you"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "and I, as I think safe to say described"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "at one time as reporters, uh, covered"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "different beats, but, uh, you know, we"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "used to think, I used to think you get a"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "big story and you break it. That's like"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "the big, you know, big moment. And"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "lately, for several years, it seems I"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "get a lot of big stories. I break it."}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "you know, it gets traction, but it's not"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "like what you think it's going to be"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "because they ignore it. And by they, I"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "mean the corporate media. I mean the"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "official organs of state. It's like uh"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "you know the the tree falls and no one"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "hears it. Turns out they're listening."}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "It's just not conveniently timed for"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "their narrative control. So they wait."}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "Uh and this information that's now being"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "broke, as you rightly said, is months"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "months old. Uh, and it's sort of useless"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "now, this information. If if they if"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "they had been talking about it and they"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "had been promoting what I was saying"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "back at the end of February, beginning"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "of March, that might have made a"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "difference on the policy level. It might"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "have actually influenced things for the"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "better. Uh, but ultimately they chose to"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "sit on the story and wait until it was,"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "you know, no longer helpful. Now it's"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "just sort of a afterthought. And uh I"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "think that's one of the most depressing"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "aspects for me personally about how the"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "news media works today. It's not news,"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "it's narrative control. And it's having"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "a real negative impact because the news"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "is there to speak truth to power"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "publicly. Uh and they're not doing that"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "anymore. They're carrying water for even"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "now Trump, which is surprising to see"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "these media people doing, but they're"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "clearly, you know, wedded to this agenda"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "in the Middle East, and they don't want"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "to see any kind of, you know, threat to"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "it, which is what what I pose to them,"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "obviously."}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:06", "text": ">> So, at the heart of it, well, one of the"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "pieces I want to talk about the economy"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "and the economic piece of this, which"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "you've been all over, but one of the"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "pieces is this military uh and the use"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "of weapons here and the and and how"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "we've blown through these weapons. Now,"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "you broke this story back on Tucker's"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "show a couple of months ago. And Philip,"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "maybe we can put up this uh graphic here"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "if we have it handy showing the number"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "of US uh uh THAAD missile systems and"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "otherwise that Sager so Sager posted"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "this today, but you know it's and he"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "says it will take five plus years to"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "replace 39 days of munitions used in the"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "Iran war. What an absolute disaster. And"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "of course, you broke this story back I"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "think on Tucker's show. that was correct"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "a number of months ago that the United"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "States blew through all of these weapon"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "systems and so when you see these pauses"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "that we currently see or a 60-day"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "extension and all of this"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:58", "text": ">> I mean what and we're going to go back"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "to fighting with what we have Senator"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "Blumenthal in in the middle of Ukraine"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "today saying that we've got your back in"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "what format we don't have the weapons to"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "send to Ukraine what do we have"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:11", "text": ">> well I'll start at the back first the"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "the Ukraine thing uh we we are not going"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "to have their back uh if there's any"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "silver lining in any of this, it's that"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "we've blown through so many systems so"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "quickly that are really I mean they say"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "five or more years. I would say these"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "systems are irreplaceable. Because I"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "responded to Sager, our mutual friend,"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "and I said that's the best case"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "scenario. You need to have access to"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "China's rare earth minerals in order for"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "us to even begin replenishing these lost"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "weapons. And guess what? China's not"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "letting us gain access to what they're"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "calling dual use rare earth minerals."}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "So, I don't actually think we're ever"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "going to replenish these weapons in any"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "meaningful way. So, the silver lining"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "here is that when it comes to Ukraine,"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "the president has never fully bought"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "into Biden's war there. He's sort of let"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "it continue on, but he's never he hasn't"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "really gone full boore the way Biden did"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "in Ukraine. And so I think he's already"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "using this as an excuse behind the"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "scenes, the president is to justify not"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "uh sending any more aid because we"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "frankly can't send anymore. We don't"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "have anything left to give. In fact,"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "you're seeing with the exception of"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "those 5,000 troops in Poland, which is"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "more of a personal favor to the new"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "president there who's a Trump ally, um"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "the the president is overseeing the"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "dismantling uh of US presence in Europe"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "at this very very important juncture uh"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "in the Ukraine war. So in my opinion,"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "the upside to this depletion narrative"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "uh is that we will not be able and we"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "will not be willing to provide any"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "material support anymore to Ukraine,"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "which is good for us, not good for the"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "Ukrainians. Uh but it's good for us. Uh"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "as for the other side of the story, good"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "for the Ukrainians because that means"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "they're done. Like let's"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:05:59", "text": ">> Well, I should say I should say right"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "home. We're done."}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:02", "text": ">> That's right. the Ukrainian regime, I"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "should say, is not good for the"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "Ukrainian regime, which we've poured"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "endless amounts of our money into. Um,"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "we should not have uh but you know, so"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "from the Ukraine angle, this actually"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "might be good. Um the downside of course"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "is in terms of not just those precisiong"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "guided offensive munitions, the air"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "defense interceptors which we have"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "relied heavily uh to protect both our"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "bases in the Middle East but also we've"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "used it excessively. In fact, I was told"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "yesterday by a source that the Israelis"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "were astounded throughout the course of"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "the war because we used more of our air"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "defense interceptors to to protect"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "Israeli uh targets uh than the Israelis"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "themselves used. And uh we used we"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "actually were diverting the air defense"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "systems away from our bases in the"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "Middle East and those Arab states. We"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "were diverting them to Israel to protect"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "Israel. And the Israelis weren't even"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "using theirs the way we were. One IDF"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "general apparently quipped to the source"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "that I have over there. He said in"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "March, he quipped to his team, he"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "couldn't believe how wasteful the"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "Americans were with their limited stock"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "piles of air defense systems. So even"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "the Israelis were saying, \"What are the"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "Americans thinking?\" Uh, you know,"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "blowing through these stockpiles that"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "they don't really have a lot of to"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "protect us. They weren't even protecting"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "the American bases. Uh so anyway, uh my"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "point is is that we're not going to see"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "these weapons coming back anytime soon"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "because we don't have access to the rare"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "earth minerals and therefore there's no"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "replenishment. So they're gone now. And"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "what does that mean at the larger level?"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "A lot of these weapons are essential for"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "the US to if something were to happen"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "and I'm not saying it is. If something"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "were to happen though in the"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "Indo-Pacific with a war with China over"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "the, you know, Taiwan or war between"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "China and Japan or war between China and"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "the Philippines or some conflict, we"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "would require the air defense systems"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "and the precision guided standoff"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "munitions to have any chance of"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "protecting ourselves or rolling back"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "whatever the Chinese are up to. And"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "those systems are now in finite supply."}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "They will not be tasked, I think, to any"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "contingency because there's not enough"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "of them and we can't replenish them"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "because the Chinese are sitting on the"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "rare earth minerals."}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:28", "text": ">> You're absolutely right about that. I"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "mean, and we outsourced all of our"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "mining. I mean, you know, under Obama"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "and and Biden um and Clinton."}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:37", "text": ">> The key thing The key thing is the"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "processing and we I know one of my"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "regular guests on my show is a a guy"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "named Dan Collins who who still has"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "factories in China and Taiwan related to"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "rare earths. And he told me because he"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "started out when he graduated from"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "college, he started out at the"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "processing facility in Gan uh or Cooko"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "rather, Indiana. And in the 80s and 90s,"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "we moved that original rare earth"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "mineral price processing factory. We"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "uprooted it and sent it, I believe, to"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "Tanzhin, China, where the Chinese"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "expanded it and now have an entire"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "infrastructure for global rare earth"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "mining. We in the United States have no"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "rare earth mining because we've deemed"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "it a threat to the environment. So,"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "we've outsourced it. We created the"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "process in Cookamo, Indiana, and then we"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "shipped it over to China, and they used"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "it to create the world's greatest choke"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "point in the uh uh rare earth mineral"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "supply chain. It's the processing that's"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "key. That's what China has all the"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "leverage on us in."}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:38", "text": ">> Well, don't you hate when people say, \"I"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "told you so.\" Yeah, that's me, actually,"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "because I I did tell you. Sorry, but I"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "told you that gold and silver were going"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "to reap the benefits of excessive money"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "printing, the Fed just printing money"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "like crazy. Overvalued markets, global"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "unrest. It's here. It's happened. Gold"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "and silver have both soared to all-time"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "highs. So, I hope you called our friends"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "at Lear Capital and you bought some. 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It's easy to do."}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "Natalie and I have done it for both and"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "I've been extremely satisfied with"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "Lear's knowledge, their service, their"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "prices. I urge you to call today and"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "learn more. Call them 1 8006133557"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "or go to leerred redacted.com and you"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "can receive up to $20,000 in free bonus"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "medals with a qualified purchase. Well,"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "and one of the great hypocrisies of the"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "Ukraine war is that we were still"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "relying on Russia for our uranium"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "enrichment. like we'll sanction"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "everything else,"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:08", "text": ">> but we still need your uranium. So, you"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "know what? We'll just leave that as a"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "little carve out. That's right."}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:13", "text": ">> So, you guys send it to us in the United"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "States. Meanwhile,"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:17", "text": ">> well, and we remember remember we were"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "purchasing under Biden the the stories"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "were in the Washington Post. They had a"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "random act of journalism. They were"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "reporting that Biden was still was still"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "purchasing oil and natural gas from the"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "Russians during the Ukraine war. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "it's like what do we, you know, it's"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:36", "text": ">> it's lunacy. It's lunacy."}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:38", "text": ">> So yeah, I mean talk about neodymium,"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "proodmium, like all of these rare earth"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "minerals that we're just we don't have"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "it. We don't have the processing and"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "they're trying to"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:47", "text": ">> and a key difference also is we do have"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "a lot of light rare earth minerals out"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "on the west coast of the United States"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "and places mostly blue states like"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "California where they are not allowing"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "for since the 70s they don't allow uh"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "any kind of rare earth extraction. Uh"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "certainly we don't have any processing"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "capabilities in the United States. Uh so"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "even if we were to actually get the"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "light rare earth minerals from uh uh the"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "west coast of the United States, we"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "don't have the processing power. We'd"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "have to ship it anyway to China to their"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "processing facilities that we gave them."}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "And by the way, we need heavy rare earth"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "minerals, which contrary to what is said"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "in popular media, my understanding is we"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "do not have a lot of heavy rare earths"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "in the Americas. that's in Eurasia, in"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "Africa, in you know those places that"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "are contested regions right now that"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "China has a lot of advantages. They've"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "also got them in Australia and they've"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "got them in, you know, Japan has access"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "to them. But here in the United States,"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "you know, the reindustrialized plan is"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "great, but we physically don't have the"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "heavy rare earths in abundance that we"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "need to be totally self-sufficient."}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:54", "text": ">> Let's talk about this agreement, this"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "so-called 60-day ceasefire agreement,"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "and what do you think happens? Is it"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "legitimate? Uh laughing, of course. So,"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "no, clearly not. And then also, what"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "happens to the US economy? Your"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "predictions have been spot on. Where do"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "we go over the next few weeks as"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "Americans head into the summer months"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "here? And how are we going to see it"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "hitting our economy?"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:15", "text": ">> Well, I told Mario, my buddy, today on"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "his show, I said it twice now on his"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "show, we don't have a deal. At best,"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "what we're getting is a patch, a 60-day"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "patch. Uh and I think this is in"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "response to the Trump administration"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "clearly knows we are up a creek"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "economically that if they don't do"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "something now to however temporarily"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "which it would be temporarily reopen the"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "straight of Hormuse uh if they don't get"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "that done quickly then not only are we"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "going to feel the economic burn for"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "several months probably the rest of the"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "year but they will collapse the economy."}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "I'm talking about something some"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "combination of the worst parts of the"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "great recession of '08 with the worst"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "parts of the depression caused by the"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "COVID lockdowns uh in 2020. And so you"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "can sort of imagine how bad things are"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "going to get if they don't even"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "temporarily get the straight reopen. And"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "I want to make this very clear because"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "I've been following this very closely."}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "the the president and you noted this"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "with Larry before you went to break. The"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "the the president and his team have"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "become experts in gooseing the markets"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "uh manipulating them for the day traders"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "for the you know the the the you know"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "the speculators basically with the paper"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "price of oil in particular. They're very"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "good at manipulating the markets and the"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "markets are still falling for it. Not as"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "much as they used to but they still are"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "falling for it. What I contend is that"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "Trump knows he's reaching the end of"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "that line and he knows that if he"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "doesn't get even a temporary reopening,"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "then he's screwed politically cuz we"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "have midterms coming up. So, I think"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "what they're going to try to do is is"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "drag out the pain with a 60-day"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "ceasefire. Um, and because there's no"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "way, if you listen to what the president"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "and his people have been saying, not"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "notice the Iranians haven't said"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "anything. If you look at what the"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "president and his people have been"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "saying about this proposed deal, it's 60"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "days of reopening, no questions asked,"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "reopening everything, and then at day"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "60, you got to sit down and negotiate"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "Iran to get rid of your nuclear"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "material. the the Ayatollah Moaba Kamani"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "who watched his father and his little"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "baby grand nieces get incinerated in the"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "bunker at the start of the war has said"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "under no circumstances will Iran give up"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "whatever nuclear materials they have to"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "the Americans it is not going to happen"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "so unless this is really a hard bargain"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "he's driving which I I don't think he is"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "on this issue uh 60 days if we do get"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "this ceasefire"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "60 days are going to come and then the"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "President Trump is going to say, \"Okay,"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "we got to we got to talk about the"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "nuclear stuff and the Iranians are going"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "to flip them the bird and then"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "everything's going to deteriorate from"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "there and we'll either be back to having"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "a shooting war or back to having the"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "straight closed or the Iranians will"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "then impose their service fee system uh"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "on the straight, which will of course"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "completely destabilize the world economy"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "because now now these companies that do"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "business in the straight are going to"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "have to price in whatever ever service"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "fees the Iranians want to impose upon"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "those ships. And if you're flagged from"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "certain countries like Israel, the"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "Iranians might say you can't come"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "through at all. Um or American allies"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "might have to pay more than say China or"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "Russia flagged ships. So this I think"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "way you look at it if he does the"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "president does get some kind of a deal"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "for 60-day reopening. It's it's a patch."}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "It is not a peace deal. We are not ever"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "going to get a peace deal. I do not"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "believe. partly because the Iranians"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "don't think they can trust us, but also,"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "let's face it, we're not the ones on on"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "this side of the the the crisis driving"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "events. It's the Israelis. It's"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "Netanyahu. And he does not want peace at"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "all."}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:13", "text": ">> No, he wants regime regime change. And"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "he wants an"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:16", "text": ">> I don't even think he cares about that"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "to be honest with you. And I don't"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "remember if I said this to you or"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "somebody else, but I actually think it's"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "it's baser than this. I know everybody"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "talks about greater Israel and that is"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "certainly sort of a long range"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "ideological objective of of Netanyahu's"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "party, but in my opinion, this is Baser."}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "He is under the gun politically and"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "legally. and he has managed to to avoid"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "these really serious investigations and"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "charges against him uh both for whatever"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "corruption he is accused of engaging in"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "as well as the investigations into how"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "the heck 107 happened uh in the first"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "place. He has avoided the hard"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "questions. He has avoided the legal"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "ramifications for whatever he may or may"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "not have done primarily by opening up"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "multiple fronts in the war ever since"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "107. And if he gets a peace deal or if a"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "peace deal is crafted now, the Israeli"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "government returns to normal operation"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "and the first thing they're going to do"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "is reopen those investigations into him."}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "In fact, a few weeks ago, my"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "understanding is the Israeli Supreme"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "Court held court under normal rules for"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "the first time in a long time. And the"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "first case they were looking into was"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "the alleged corruption uh investigation"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "into Netanyahu. This was what prompted"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "Trump a few weeks ago to call President"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "Herzog, the leader of the Israeli"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "parliament, and begged him to say, he"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "said, \"Please give Netanyahu a pardon.\""}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "And Herzog said, \"Under no circumstance,"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "no matter what happens, will we ever"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "pardon Netanyahu.\" So, Bby needs the war"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "because it's the only thing keeping him"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "in power and possibly out of jail."}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:57", "text": ">> Yeah. Uh, yeah. a source of mine who"}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "worked for Netanyahu, you know, has"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "explained to me how corrupt the man is"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "and how he will keep this war going on"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "purpose in order"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:06", "text": ">> swag the dog. This is Bill Clinton on"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "steroids from the 90s,"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:08", "text": ">> you know,"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:10", "text": ">> and it's also and it's, you know,"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "speaking to sources in Israel who told"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "me that one of the things that they hope"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "they'll get an answer to is to how they"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "allowed those young girls, those IDF"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "soldiers to be used as cannon fodder and"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "standown orders that allowed those girls"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "on the front lines there, like the sort"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "of fresh out of college IDF soldiers to"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "be killed and they knew they were going"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "to be killed and use them as cannon"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "fodder. Um, that needs to be"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "investigated. It does. It does. And I"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "And there is a wing of Israel that has"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "been wanting Nesset to investigate this,"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "normally notably the left, but they"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "can't get it done because every time"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "they start the process, another front"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "opens, more emergency counter measures"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "are put in. You know, they can't operate"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "like a normal democracy. So uh and this"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "is the game that that that Netanyahu"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "plays uh you know using his power uh I"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "think unduly now uh to to avoid to avoid"}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "the legal ramifications for whatever and"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "one of the interesting stories here"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "Clayton uh it's not widely reported it's"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "not widely understood outside of Israeli"}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "media is for years Netanyahu's"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:19", "text": "government that was part of the mowing"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "the grass strategy Caroline Glick uh who"}, {"start": "00:20:19", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "I'm a big fan of and she's now currently"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "Netanyahu adviser, but at her her times"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "of Israel uh column, she used to write"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "about this openly. It was part this"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "mowing the grass strategy where"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "basically Israeli leaders and security"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "officials assessed that the greater"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "threat to Israel was to the north from"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "Hezbollah and that they could as long as"}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "they could manage Hamas, they wouldn't"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "have to worry about it. And so what"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:47", "text": "Netanyahu's government did or his people"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "did, it sounds like, is they started"}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:53", "text": "this scheme to pay off Hamas's"}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "leadership by washing money through"}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:21:00", "text": "Qatar or allowing Qatar to fund Hamas."}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "And as uh Jack Maxi has has reported in"}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "his reporting, um Netanyahu and his"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "people were taking basically a vig a cut"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "off the top of that money for themselves"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:13", "text": "and then letting the rest of it go to"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "Hamas. Hamas was playing them though."}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "Hamas was playing them for fools. They"}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "were taking the money saying, \"Oh yeah,"}, {"start": "00:21:17", "end": "00:21:20", "text": "we won't we won't attack you. Don't"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:23", "text": "worry.\" And they were buying weapons and"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:26", "text": "preparing the ground for what became"}, {"start": "00:21:23", "end": "00:21:28", "text": "107. It was with Israeli money. It was"}, {"start": "00:21:26", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "with the money that Netanyahu was paying"}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:32", "text": "them with the hopes that they wouldn't"}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "attack. Uh I mean it's really a sorted"}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "tale if you really look into it. There"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "is so much corruption here. Um"}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:43", "text": ">> yeah, I was in Rafa I was near RA not"}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "too far from Rafa um on 107 in Egypt and"}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "the Egyptians were you you guys knew all"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:48", "text": "about this."}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:51", "text": ">> It was well known that this was coming"}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "like this whole fakery of 107 like you"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "didn't know it was coming. It was a"}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "surprise. You're laundering money"}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:21:57", "text": "through these guys. They're arming"}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:21:59", "text": "themselves. You're watching the most"}, {"start": "00:21:57", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "heavily secure border in the world."}, {"start": "00:21:59", "end": "00:22:03", "text": ">> I mean it's all a joke. It's a theater"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "at this point. It's so"}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:07", "text": ">> the theater of the absurd."}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:09", "text": ">> Yeah. Um, I'll get you out of here on"}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "this Brandon, be respectful of your"}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "time, which is, so you talk about this"}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:15", "text": "depression, this idea it could be as bad"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:17", "text": "as the lockdown depression, um, and even"}, {"start": "00:22:15", "end": "00:22:19", "text": "the Great Recession. What is the, what"}, {"start": "00:22:17", "end": "00:22:20", "text": "are the mechanics of that look like, do"}, {"start": "00:22:19", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "you think, in practice for like the"}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "typical American family that's got kids,"}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "they're taken to their dance practice"}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "after school? Like, what does it look"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:28", "text": "like in action?"}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:32", "text": ">> Yeah. So, we're seeing the outlines of"}, {"start": "00:22:28", "end": "00:22:34", "text": "it right now and that is the the spikes"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "in fuel and it and the real spike that"}, {"start": "00:22:34", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "to be worried about is the spike in"}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:41", "text": "price for diesel because basically"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:43", "text": "everything runs on diesel. Um the entire"}, {"start": "00:22:41", "end": "00:22:46", "text": "shipping, you know, American shipping"}, {"start": "00:22:43", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "firms, uh logistics, everything runs on"}, {"start": "00:22:46", "end": "00:22:51", "text": "diesel trucks, therefore diesel that the"}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:54", "text": "prices have gone up, I think in some"}, {"start": "00:22:51", "end": "00:22:57", "text": "cases up as high as 70% since the war"}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:22:59", "text": "began. Nobody can afford that. The the"}, {"start": "00:22:57", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "the truckers can't. The trucking"}, {"start": "00:22:59", "end": "00:23:05", "text": "companies can't. And so that basically"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:07", "text": "forces spikes to prices of everything"}, {"start": "00:23:05", "end": "00:23:10", "text": "that needs to be shipped, which is"}, {"start": "00:23:07", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "everything basically that we use. Uh so"}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "so you're going to see price increases."}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:16", "text": "You're already starting to for everyday"}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "goods. Then of course the price of"}, {"start": "00:23:16", "end": "00:23:21", "text": "natural gas and oil for the ordinary"}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:22", "text": "consumer. We're seeing that at the pump."}, {"start": "00:23:21", "end": "00:23:26", "text": "uh you know generally I think it's about"}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:30", "text": "a 50% 52% increase since the war began."}, {"start": "00:23:26", "end": "00:23:33", "text": "Um that is going to exponentially worsen"}, {"start": "00:23:30", "end": "00:23:37", "text": "as we reach the end or the bottom of the"}, {"start": "00:23:33", "end": "00:23:40", "text": "barrels of surpluses of buffers. Uh we"}, {"start": "00:23:37", "end": "00:23:42", "text": "build up a a strategic supply so that we"}, {"start": "00:23:40", "end": "00:23:44", "text": "can deploy it in times of crisis. Well,"}, {"start": "00:23:42", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "the president's been pulling from those"}, {"start": "00:23:44", "end": "00:23:48", "text": "strategic reserves for political"}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:50", "text": "purposes. Well, we're going to start"}, {"start": "00:23:48", "end": "00:23:54", "text": "reaching the bottom of the barrels"}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:55", "text": "there. And uh basically once we we run"}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:23:58", "text": "through the buffers, which a lot of"}, {"start": "00:23:55", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "experts are saying the weekend or"}, {"start": "00:23:58", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "ironically the 250th anniversary of"}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:06", "text": "America, the weekend of July 4th, that"}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:08", "text": "time frame, you should see us reach"}, {"start": "00:24:06", "end": "00:24:10", "text": "pretty much the bottom of the barrel,"}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:12", "text": "which then forces us to compete for"}, {"start": "00:24:10", "end": "00:24:15", "text": "access to energy on the global market"}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:18", "text": "more thoroughly, which means higher"}, {"start": "00:24:15", "end": "00:24:21", "text": "prices for us. that will knock on"}, {"start": "00:24:18", "end": "00:24:23", "text": "everything else. Vacations, jet fuel is"}, {"start": "00:24:21", "end": "00:24:25", "text": "not going to be wildly available. So,"}, {"start": "00:24:23", "end": "00:24:27", "text": "you're going to see massive reductions"}, {"start": "00:24:25", "end": "00:24:29", "text": "in flights. It's a summer driving"}, {"start": "00:24:27", "end": "00:24:31", "text": "season. You're not going to be seeing a"}, {"start": "00:24:29", "end": "00:24:33", "text": "lot of people, I don't think, doing"}, {"start": "00:24:31", "end": "00:24:36", "text": "their summer vacations. I certainly"}, {"start": "00:24:33", "end": "00:24:38", "text": "canled our trip to Disney. Uh we were"}, {"start": "00:24:36", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "going to drive in July. I said, I think"}, {"start": "00:24:38", "end": "00:24:42", "text": "we should just wait till next year. Um"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:43", "text": "luckily the kids are young enough where"}, {"start": "00:24:42", "end": "00:24:46", "text": "it's not going to be that big of a deal."}, {"start": "00:24:43", "end": "00:24:47", "text": "Uh but ultimately you will see things"}, {"start": "00:24:46", "end": "00:24:50", "text": "like that. In terms of your everyday"}, {"start": "00:24:47", "end": "00:24:52", "text": "life, I would really be paying attention"}, {"start": "00:24:50", "end": "00:24:55", "text": "to what I think are going to be very"}, {"start": "00:24:52", "end": "00:24:57", "text": "serious shortages of food stuffs which"}, {"start": "00:24:55", "end": "00:25:00", "text": "will then because of the the the"}, {"start": "00:24:57", "end": "00:25:02", "text": "shortage in in um fertilizer which will"}, {"start": "00:25:00", "end": "00:25:05", "text": "then translate to massively expensive"}, {"start": "00:25:02", "end": "00:25:07", "text": "goods at the grocery store because"}, {"start": "00:25:05", "end": "00:25:09", "text": "farmers can't grow everything they need"}, {"start": "00:25:07", "end": "00:25:11", "text": "in the quantities they need to meet"}, {"start": "00:25:09", "end": "00:25:13", "text": "demand. So this is basic supply and"}, {"start": "00:25:11", "end": "00:25:16", "text": "demand. There's a short there's a"}, {"start": "00:25:13", "end": "00:25:18", "text": "shortage of key goods at the grocery"}, {"start": "00:25:16", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "store. Whatever is available will be"}, {"start": "00:25:18", "end": "00:25:22", "text": "massively more expensive. Um you're"}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:27", "text": "already seeing beef prices. That's only"}, {"start": "00:25:22", "end": "00:25:29", "text": "going to uh get worse. So everything is"}, {"start": "00:25:27", "end": "00:25:32", "text": "going to get more expensive and it's"}, {"start": "00:25:29", "end": "00:25:34", "text": "going to basically lead to um inflation"}, {"start": "00:25:32", "end": "00:25:36", "text": "rates going higher. Kevin Walsh, the new"}, {"start": "00:25:34", "end": "00:25:38", "text": "Fed chairman, is saying that he's"}, {"start": "00:25:36", "end": "00:25:40", "text": "supposed to be brought into lower"}, {"start": "00:25:38", "end": "00:25:42", "text": "interest rates. When you have a high"}, {"start": "00:25:40", "end": "00:25:45", "text": "inflationary environment, you do not"}, {"start": "00:25:42", "end": "00:25:47", "text": "rate uh lower in uh interest rates. So"}, {"start": "00:25:45", "end": "00:25:48", "text": "that's going to drag the economy."}, {"start": "00:25:47", "end": "00:25:51", "text": "Basically, we're heading into"}, {"start": "00:25:48", "end": "00:25:53", "text": "stagflation, which means high inflation,"}, {"start": "00:25:51", "end": "00:25:55", "text": "low employment, and it's a worse"}, {"start": "00:25:53", "end": "00:25:57", "text": "combination of factors where the Fed"}, {"start": "00:25:55", "end": "00:26:01", "text": "can't manage the situation like they did"}, {"start": "00:25:57", "end": "00:26:04", "text": "in '08 or during 2020. Uh so you we're"}, {"start": "00:26:01", "end": "00:26:07", "text": "we're headed for possibly, I think, a"}, {"start": "00:26:04", "end": "00:26:10", "text": "real lost decade economically."}, {"start": "00:26:07", "end": "00:26:12", "text": "um higher prices, lower wages. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:26:10", "end": "00:26:14", "text": "this is going to be a real nightmare"}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:16", "text": "scenario. All because the president of"}, {"start": "00:26:14", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "the United States decided to go to war"}, {"start": "00:26:16", "end": "00:26:20", "text": "for Israel on February 28th."}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:23", "text": ">> What a way to celebrate the 250th"}, {"start": "00:26:20", "end": "00:26:24", "text": "anniversary on July 4th with an economy"}, {"start": "00:26:23", "end": "00:26:25", "text": "like this show that we're about to"}, {"start": "00:26:24", "end": "00:26:26", "text": "see."}, {"start": "00:26:25", "end": "00:26:27", "text": ">> That's right."}, {"start": "00:26:26", "end": "00:26:30", "text": ">> That's right."}, {"start": "00:26:27", "end": "00:26:31", "text": ">> To the 20 20,000 of you or so that are"}, {"start": "00:26:30", "end": "00:26:33", "text": "watching us live across all of our"}, {"start": "00:26:31", "end": "00:26:34", "text": "platforms, please follow Brandon on X."}, {"start": "00:26:33", "end": "00:26:35", "text": "Um, let's"}, {"start": "00:26:34", "end": "00:26:37", "text": ">> we the Brandon"}, {"start": "00:26:35", "end": "00:26:40", "text": ">> at we the Brandon there and also uh"}, {"start": "00:26:37", "end": "00:26:41", "text": "subscribe to the Natsec talk podcast."}, {"start": "00:26:40", "end": "00:26:44", "text": "Brandon, always great to see you. Follow"}, {"start": "00:26:41", "end": "00:26:46", "text": "him for great uh on Rumble on Rumble."}, {"start": "00:26:44", "end": "00:26:49", "text": "The NATSC talk podcast. You can't say"}, {"start": "00:26:46", "end": "00:26:51", "text": "what you say on YouTube. Um Brandon,"}, {"start": "00:26:49", "end": "00:26:52", "text": "great to see you as always. Thank you so"}, {"start": "00:26:51", "end": "00:26:54", "text": "much. I really appreciate it and"}, {"start": "00:26:52", "end": "00:26:55", "text": "hopefully the weekend. Thanks Brandon."}, {"start": "00:26:54", "end": "00:26:57", "text": "Great to see you."}, {"start": "00:26:55", "end": "00:26:58", "text": ">> Thank you so much for watching Redacted."}, {"start": "00:26:57", "end": "00:27:00", "text": "We'd love for you to subscribe to the"}, {"start": "00:26:58", "end": "00:27:02", "text": "channel. It's totally free if you want"}, {"start": "00:27:00", "end": "00:27:04", "text": "to follow us or subscribe. 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[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "The newest round of Michael Jackson"}, {"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "accusers are the same people that"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "masterminded what I think is the biggest"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "artistic fraud scam in modern-day"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "history. This is a story you may not"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "have heard because the media largely"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "suppressed it. It's the story of how"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "Sony and the Michael Jackson estate were"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "sold fake songs from a Michael Jackson"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "sound alike to put on hisostumous album"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "and were later sued for consumer fraud"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "in a case that went all the way to the"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "California Supreme Court. We're going to"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "speak to the man who researched this"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "claim, helped expose it all the way to"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "the courts in the hit podcast Faking"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "Michael. Recently though, these same"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "people ma who made those counterfeit"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "songs and sold them to Sony allegedly"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "are saying that they were sexually"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "assaulted by Michael Jackson for the"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "entirety of their childhood. These are"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "the Casio siblings. Missing from this"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "photo is Frank Casio, who was Jackson's"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "personal assistant for years, but who"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "also claims that he was regularly abused"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "by Jackson for most of his youth. Now,"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "we are not going to evaluate their"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "claims of sexual abuse, whether or not"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "they're true. We may do that another"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "time. What we are going to do today is"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "tell you what they did to Michael"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "Jackson's legacy since his death, and"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "how they have essentially been gravebing"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "since the day he died in 2009. Joining"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "me is Damen Shields, who spent over a"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "decade researching this story because he"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "was so personally offended that someone"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "would presume to even try to fake songs"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "like The King of Pop. Now, before we get"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "to him, I want to highly recommend the"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "Faking Michael podcast. It's riveting."}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "It's like the Thomas Crown affair, but"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "it's true. So, Damian, thank you so much"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "for joining me."}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:55", "text": ">> Thanks for having me. All right. So,"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "tell me briefly who the Casios were to"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "Michael Jackson and then we'll get into"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "how their behavior changed and what we"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "know about this alleged fraud."}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:11", "text": ">> Uh, so the Casios are a family uh two"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "parents and several uh siblings. They"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "met Michael Jackson through the father"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "Dominic Casio. He was the manager at the"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "Helmsley Palace Hotel in New York City."}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "And it was a hotel that Michael"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "frequently stayed at when he was"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "traveling, touring with his brothers or"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "there for certain engagements or"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "whatever. And he was in charge of"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "managing the suites at the hotel. So"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "that's how he met Michael Jackson. And"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "through meeting Michael Jackson, they"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "took a liking to each other. And"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "eventually Michael Jackson became"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "friends with the entire family."}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:45", "text": ">> Okay. And so these"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:47", "text": ">> this was in the early n early 1980s,"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:50", "text": ">> right? And so when the first allegations"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "of sexual assault dropped in 1993"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "and then again in 2005 when the case"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "went all the way to court, the Casios"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "were ardent defenders of Michael"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "Jackson. And in fact, after his death,"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "they all went on Oprah said the same"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "thing. He could never do something like"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "this. Frank Casio was his personal"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "assistant uh and wrote a book called My"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "Friend Michael. So they were not just"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "close, they were one of some of his"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "biggest defenders,"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:21", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:23", "text": ">> Yeah. And they they were. And what's"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "interesting about that appearance on the"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "Oprah Win Oprah Winfrey show when they"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "defended Michael Jackson was that they"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "weren't actually on that show with the"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "intention of defending Michael Jackson."}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "That was just like a byproduct of"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "Oprah's line of questioning. The reason"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "that they were on the Oprah Winfrey show"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "that day was to defend themselves"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "because Eddie Casio and his"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "brother-in-law James Port had been"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "accused of what you said in the"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "introduction, fabricating a collection"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "of fake songs in the style of Michael"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "Jackson and then defrauding his estate"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "and Sony music with those songs. And"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "that was the reason that they had"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "appeared on Oprah Winfrey that day. And"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "so Oprah Winfrey just went down that"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "line of questioning like, \"Oh, here's a"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "family that knew Michael that had kids"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "that were that same age in that same"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "time period.\" And she she went down that"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "line of questioning with them, but that"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "was not the reason that they were there."}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:15", "text": ">> So before we get to the fraud, which is"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "again such a wild story, we should also"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "point out the different ways that the"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "Casios have been fishing into Michael"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "Jackson's wealthy estate. uh you"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "mentioned in the podcast selling"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "underwear, dirty underwear that he left"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "there and pill bottles. Can you explain"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "that as well?"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:36", "text": ">> Yeah, so I guess over the years they had"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "uh retained possession of certain things"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "that he had that Michael Jackson had"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "brought to their family home over the"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "years of knowing them. Um and whether"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "that was, you know, leaving his items of"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "clothing there when he would he would"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "leave cuz he would stay with them"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "regularly."}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "um or like you said pill bottles. Um"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "another thing that they auctioned off"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "after his death was a gift that his kids"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "had given him which was a trophy like a"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "I guess it's like a mock golden globe or"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "something like that and it was labeled"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "with world's best dad and somehow the"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "Casio family retained possession of that"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "and uh auctioned that off instead of"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "gifting it back to the children who had"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "given it to their father. Um if you can"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "believe that. Um, so yeah, there was"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "just a plethora of things. They've been"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "auctioning things for years and years"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "and years. I'm pretty sure they haven't"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "actively been going back to the auction"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "house with new items and more new items."}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "I'm fairly sure they consigned pretty"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "much the entire Michael Jackson"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "collection to the auction house. And the"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "auction houses have probably been drip"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "feeding them like in stages, but they've"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "got a basically a warehouse full of"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "Michael Jackson's previously owned items"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "um that they've been yeah auctioning"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "over the years. I mean, with friends"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "like that, I mean, they were close"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "enough that the three Jackson children,"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "Michael's three children, opted to spend"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "their first Christmas after Michael"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "Jackson died with the Casios. They flew"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "there to New Jersey because they felt"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "comfortable celebrating Christmas. It"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "should be noted that they were being"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "raised by Katherine Jackson, Michael's"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "mother at that time. She's a Jehovah's"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "Witness, so she doesn't celebrate"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "Christmas. And so that may be part of"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "it, but they felt like they wanted to"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "spend the holidays with the these people"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "welcomed his children into their house."}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "So let's get to the the fraud of it. How"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "you learned about this song and and I"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "really would like you to tell the story"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "about how you listened to it and felt"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "just physically sick because it's"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "fantastic how personally you took it."}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:39", "text": ">> Yeah. So little backstory on me. I've"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "been a Michael Jackson fan my whole"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "life. Um, as I became older, I started"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "to take a more intellectual interest in"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "his music. So, as as opposed to being"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "like a, you know, a young kid with"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "posters on the wall, I kind of wanted to"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "learn more about the anatomy of the"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "music. And so, there really wasn't much"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "uh literature out there to do that. So,"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "I took an interest in trying to create"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "that literature and research uh those"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "things so I could find it out for"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "myself. And by virtue of that, when he"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "died, I was aware that there was a a"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "significant amount of unreleased music"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "that he had left behind. Um, and I was"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "fairly sure that Sony and the estate"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "were going to do what they ended up"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "doing, which was to go through all that"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "material and put the best stuff together"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "and release aostumous album, which is"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "what ended up happening. Um, as this"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "album was kind of being reported in the"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "media, it had been reported that there"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "was a collection of songs that the Casio"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "family had sold to Michael's estate. U,"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "fully completed songs, 12 of them, and"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "that these songs were going to play a"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "really important role in the um, piecing"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "together of this album, like the song"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "selections that were going to probably"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "rely fairly heavily on songs from the"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "Casio tracks. That's the name of the the"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "infamous Casio tracks. And so in my"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "research, I'd never heard of the Casio"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "tracks or even had known that he had"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "supposedly worked with Eddie Casio and"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "Eddie Casio's brother-in-law, James"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "Port. Um, but I was pretty interested to"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "to hear these songs. And about 6 weeks"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "before the album was due to come out,"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "the Jackson family took to social media"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "almost out of the blue and started"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "accusing the Casio family of having"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "faked the songs that they' provided to"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "Sony that Michael wasn't singing them."}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "And to me, that was like ludicrous."}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "Sounded like a huge conspiracy theory."}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "And I thought there's no way that that"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "could be possible. I knew that Sony"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "already had an abundance of unreleased"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "songs. Um, it was no secret that Michael"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "would record twice as many songs for an"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "album that he actually needed and only"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "release the best ones. So, there was"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "going to be surplus songs for every"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "album he ever released. So, I discounted"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "the fact that it could even possibly be"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "true that these songs would be fake. I"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "actually took the position that the"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "media was shoving down my throat, which"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "was that the Jackson family was greedy,"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "that they were jaded, that they weren't"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "involved with the production, and they"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "weren't profiting from the release of"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "the music, and therefore they wanted to"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "destroy the project. And um more fool me"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "for believing what the media was"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "reporting because uh when they finally"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "did release these songs, it was"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "blatantly clear that Michael Jackson was"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "not singing on on the songs. And uh the"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "particular day that that became clear to"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "not only me but thousands of fans around"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "the world and anybody who knew anything"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "about what Michael actually sounds like"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "um was in the aftermath of those initial"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "social media posts by the Jacksons where"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "they're trying to kind of raise the"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "alarm that these songs are going to be"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "fake. Sony and the estate decided to go"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "on the offensive and say, \"Well, okay,"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "we're going to release one of these fake"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "songs in a worldwide premiere and put"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "this to rest.\" and they chose one of the"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "Casio tracks, which is Breaking News,"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "and they announced this global premiere"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "for it. Uh, it was midnight New York"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "time, which was like in the afternoon in"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "Australia where I live. So, I was that"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "excited to hear this and to literally be"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "able to put the middle finger up to the"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "Jackson family and say, \"Shut up. Get"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "out of the way of this album. Let us"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "enjoy the music. It's obviously him.\" I"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "took the afternoon off work. I went"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "home. I'm sitting on my computer"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "refreshing the Michael Jackson website"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "uh repeatedly to hear this song and it"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "finally plays and within 2 seconds of"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "hearing it I was like, \"Holy [ __ ] that"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "is not Michael Jackson.\" And on top of"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "that, an extra layer of it not being"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "Michael Jackson was that I had"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "recognized immediately who was singing."}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "Um, which didn't make it a mystery. It"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "was like, well, how the hell did this"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "person get on these songs?"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "Uh, and that person is"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:47", "text": ">> Go ahead, say his name. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:49", "text": ">> I was going to say that person is is"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "Jason Malachi. So, he's a well-known"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "Michael Jackson soundike. Um, who had"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "been known in the Michael Jackson"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "community for many years prior for"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "sounding remarkably like Michael"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "Jackson. Um, he even had a song that was"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "it went viral before viral even existed."}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "uh in 2007 he had a song called Mama"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "which was mistaken by TMZ for a new"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "Michael Jackson song when Michael"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "Jackson wasn't even releasing new music"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "and they broadcast it on the website as"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "a new Michael Jackson song and the whole"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "world believed it for a hot second until"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "Jason actually his manager confirmed"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "that hey that's not that's not Michael"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "that's Jason."}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:28", "text": ">> So why don't we take a quick pause and"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "you can listen to Breaking News. Listen"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "to it as if you think it's going to be"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "Michael Jackson and then have your own"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "reaction even though you know"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:40", "text": ">> you just want to read it again."}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:47", "text": ">> When I heard it on your podcast because"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "I did not hear it in 2010 when it came"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "out. I thought it's not only not Michael"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "Jackson, it's lame. It's much lamer than"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "that was my first thought. And so I"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "thought, how could they presume to do"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "something like this? And that was the"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "international response, right?"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:12", "text": ">> That was the international response"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "among fans who basically are experts on"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "Michael Jackson's music. These are the"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "people that listen to it more than"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "anybody in the world. So they"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "immediately recognized that there was"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "huge problems with these songs. But the"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "problem was that a lot of fans had such"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "a an emotional investment in waiting for"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "the first new unreleased Michael Jackson"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "song after he had died to come out that"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "they didn't want to believe that it was"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "fake. And everybody recognized that"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "there were issues with the song. Um it"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "was a majority of people that were"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "immediately saying this is not him. But"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "some people just weren't willing to kind"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "of you know break with the with the"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "notion that it was going to be him and"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "they wanted it to be him."}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:51", "text": ">> Right."}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:52", "text": ">> So everybody wanted it to be him until"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "they heard it."}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:57", "text": ">> Yes. Right. And immediately I mean I"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "guess because I already know that it's"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "not. But Sony then put out a statement,"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "the the lawyers for Sony saying, \"Look,"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "we you know, we have the confidence that"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "it is. We've hired investigators."}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "This is it. We're pretty good with it.\""}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "But your research shows that's not the"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "case at all. Many of the people who"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "worked on it, not just the Jackson"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "family, but editors and other audio"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "specialists that worked with Michael"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "Jackson, all of them had been raising"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "questions all along. Can you tell that"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "story?"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:30", "text": ">> Yeah. So, the Jackson family took their"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "complaint to social media about 6 weeks"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "before the album was released. But that"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "wasn't the first time that they'd raised"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "their complaint um with the estate. So,"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "they actually gone to the executives of"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "Michael's estate. It was it was Michael"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "Jackson's nephew, Tarl Jackson, who"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "really kind of spearheaded the whole um"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "defense of the Michael Jackson's"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "artistic legacy behind the scenes. He"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "didn't want to allow this to even happen"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "at all. And so he had heard the vocals"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "in the production stage of the album. Uh"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "Michael Jackson's former producer Teddy"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "Riley was actually hired to remix these"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "songs. These songs had been provided by"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "Jamesport and Eddie Casio to Sony and"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "the Estate in a state that Sony and the"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "Estate weren't quite satisfied with the"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "music production. They were happy with"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "the vocals, the fact that the songs were"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "fully completed, uh but they wanted a"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "new fresh production. And I guess they"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "probably wanted a new contemporary or"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "famous producers name to attach to it"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "because Eddie Casio and James Port were"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "not well-known producers. Um, so Teddy"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "Riley, for a number of reasons, got this"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "job to remix these songs. And when he"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "was doing those remixes, he had"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "Michael's nephew Tarl in the studio with"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "him to kind of do the project together."}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "Um, and it was Tarl who first listened"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "to it and said, \"That's not my uncle.\""}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "Um, and then they kind that Tarl kind of"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "contacted his brothers TJ and Taj who"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "are from the group 3T, very famous in"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "the '90s, big successful group from the"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "'90s. Um, they came down to the studio,"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "they listened to it as well. They agreed"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "this is not Michael's voice. More of"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "Michael's family ended up getting"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "involved. Number of his brothers came"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "down to the studio to listen. They also"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "said this is not Michael's voice. And"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "the ground swell behind the scenes"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "started to grow like we've got a big"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "problem here. We need to kind of stop"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "this from happening. Um they went to the"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "estate and said this is not Michael's"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "voice. The estate said yes it is."}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "Um from there they were like pushing"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "back a little bit. The Jackson family"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "was pushing back saying no it really"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "isn't and you need to do something about"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "this. And so in the end they agreed to"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "have basically a symposium like a"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "listening session where experts of"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "Michael Jackson or people who had"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "recorded him, produced him, engineered"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "him in the studio previously would come"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "into the studio and listen and give"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "their opinion and they held this"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "listening session and so we had"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "producers, engineers, musicians, all"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "kind of different people even people"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "like record executives and people who"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "had known Michael through the music"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "industry came in and listened to this"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "thing and the general consensus the"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "overwhelming general consens consensus"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "was that that it was not his voice. Um"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "and moreover the people that came in and"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "analyzed this had identified that they"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "the Casios had actually taken samples of"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "Michael's real authentic voice from"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "previous previously released songs and"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "they had spliced them all throughout"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "this fake lead vocal which was being"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "presented to us as Michael Jackson's"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "lead vocal. um to kind of disguise the"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "fact that it wasn't really him singing"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "the lead vocal. Because even if you're"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "not tricked by that lead vocal, you're"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "going to hear a breath or an inflection"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "or something that you know is like a"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "classic trademark Michael Jackson"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "signature sound."}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:03", "text": ">> You break that down in your episodes and"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "it's fascinating because you can hear uh"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "what you call adlibs from Earth song."}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "you can hear him like or he or whatever,"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "you know, things that you think of are"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "spliced in on top. That's clearly and"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "you make the case, you talk to an FBI"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "investigator who says people go to jail"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "for things like this. Like if you fake a"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "Picasso, you go to jail for it. It's not"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "just like, oh, that's wild. It's"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "illegal."}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:30", "text": ">> It's a federal crime. Yeah. It's art"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "forgery. So, this is actually the first"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "case of art forgery in the music"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "industry that I'm aware of. I don't"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "think there's ever been a case where an"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "actual artist who has an established"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "style who has spent their life creating"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "their their work who has then died and"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "someone who has come through and said,"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "\"Well, I have unreleased work by that"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "artist.\" And then had a record label"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "fall for it and then sell it to the"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "entire world as authentic works. This is"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "really kind of a precedent setting case,"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "the first time it's ever happened. Um,"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "and yeah, it's the same as if you would"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "fake a Picasso or a or a Da Vinci or a"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "Michelangelo or a Van Go or anything of"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "that stature. This is the biggest"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "musician that's ever walked the earth."}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "And we've got forgeries being sold to"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "the world by his estate and record"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "company because the Casios tricked"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "everybody except the people that knew"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "what they were talking about. And the"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "people who knew what they were talking"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "about, who were raising the issues were"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "not the ones who stood to profit from"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "it. it was the estate and Sony that"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "stood to profit. So even though there"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "were all these red flags, the estate and"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "Sony decided to say, \"Well, we think"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "it's him, so we're going forward.\""}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:39", "text": ">> Now, in the meeting you just talked"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "about where several people were saying,"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "um, we can't say one way or another, or"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "we don't think it's him or we don't"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "think we should use this. They were"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "told, we have to because John Brana made"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "some kind of deal with the Casios, so"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "we've got to use them. John Brana is the"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "executive of the Jackson estate along"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "with John Mlan. John Mlan did not want"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "to release those songs. But what do how"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "could that have h what do you surmise"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "was their deal with the devil that they"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "had to do it? How can that be possible?"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:14", "text": ">> Look, I since I've released the podcast,"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "I've spoken to very close sources uh"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "connected to the estate who tell me that"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "there was no deal that they had to"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "release the songs. Now, I don't I don't"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "know if that's just trying to get me off"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "their back or if it's actually true, but"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "that's definitely the messaging that"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "Branker was giving to people. And also,"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "Branker's attorney, the estate attorney"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "at the time, Howard Whitesman, who's now"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "deceased, um he was giving the same"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "messaging like we have to do this"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "because we made a deal that we would we"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "would release at least some of their"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "songs. So, I mean, I I don't know what"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "is definitively true. I haven't seen the"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "deal, the so-called deal. Um, but it was"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "at the time definitely the messaging"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "they were giving to everybody. And it's"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "also the messaging that they gave to"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "other people who were looking into this,"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "not just in that listening session, not"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "just in those meetings, but other people"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "who were kind of poking their nose in"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "and trying to figure out what had"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "happened was the same messaging. We had"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "to do it. We had a deal. We couldn't"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "break the deal. So,"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:18", "text": ">> make of that what you will. But yeah,"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "they they they had plenty of other"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "options. They had plenty of other they"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "could have just pumped the brakes on the"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "whole album, not release the album at"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "all until they really figured it out."}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "But at the end of the day, as the"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "evidence shows you, it appears that they"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "didn't want to figure it out. They"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "wanted to release these songs regardless"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "of the fact that they were whether they"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "were Michael or not. And uh they thought"}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "that they I guess had all their bases"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "covered that they could do it and get"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:47", "text": "away with it even if the songs were"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "fake, which didn't turn out to be true,"}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:53", "text": ">> right? And so the timing of when the"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "Casios say that Michael recorded these"}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "songs was at a tumultuous time in his"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "life. When he won his trial in 2005, he"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "never returned to Neverland. He started"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "to move around. I presume he was scared"}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:11", "text": "and traumatized from what he had been"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "through. So he moved to Bahrain and"}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "Ireland, Virginia, New Jersey, Las"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "Vegas. And when he was in New Jersey, he"}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "stayed in Bergen County with the Casios."}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:23", "text": "And they say, \"We just worked on a lot"}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "of songs. He just came ready to work.\""}, {"start": "00:21:23", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "And so we worked. But what you have"}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:31", "text": "found is that the Casios and the"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:32", "text": "brother-in-law, what's his name again?"}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "I'm sorry."}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:33", "text": ">> James Port."}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:34", "text": ">> James Port."}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:37", "text": ">> James,"}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:41", "text": ">> they they were real musicians. They were"}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:43", "text": "real musical experts. They were in fact"}, {"start": "00:21:41", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "writing songs for Michael Jackson. These"}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:50", "text": "songs were written with the end goal of"}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "Michael recording these. So what we can"}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "surmise is that they had intended"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "Michael to record these and when Michael"}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:22:01", "text": "died, what do you think that they just"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "made like a mad rush to finish them? So"}, {"start": "00:22:01", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "they're like, \"Oh, we're getting this"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "across the finish line.\""}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:09", "text": ">> I guess it's the the dream that they"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "didn't want to let escape them. So they"}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "had spent many years working on these"}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "songs and and it should be noted that"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:17", "text": "Jamesport is a professional music"}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:19", "text": "industry person. He was the manager at"}, {"start": "00:22:17", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "the Hit Factory recording studio for a"}, {"start": "00:22:19", "end": "00:22:23", "text": "number of years which is the biggest"}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "music recording studio in New York City"}, {"start": "00:22:23", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "at the time. Um he actually did work in"}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "some small capacity on Michael Jackson's"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:34", "text": "Invincible album which is the actual"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "last studio album that Michael released"}, {"start": "00:22:34", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "while he was alive in 2001. So he wasn't"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "totally disconnected from from Michael"}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:44", "text": "or the music industry. Um James Port"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "wrote a song that was released by Luther"}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "Vandross. So he's not like a nobody"}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "nobody but you you wouldn't know his"}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:55", "text": "name. Um Eddie Casio on the other hand"}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:57", "text": "is not somebody who had ever really"}, {"start": "00:22:55", "end": "00:23:00", "text": "achieved anything in the music industry"}, {"start": "00:22:57", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "but was a talented piano player. He's a"}, {"start": "00:23:00", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "piano teacher. That's his job. um and is"}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:10", "text": "skilled at music production the same way"}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "that James Port is. And so um they had"}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "spent many many years together as a team"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:16", "text": "working on songs that they wanted"}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "Michael to record. Um and they'd also"}, {"start": "00:23:16", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "spent many years working on other songs"}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:22", "text": "because James Port himself was trying to"}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "have his own career in the music"}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:26", "text": "industry under the pseudonym Bobby"}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:28", "text": "Euing. So he had this character that he"}, {"start": "00:23:26", "end": "00:23:30", "text": "created that he wanted to have a certain"}, {"start": "00:23:28", "end": "00:23:32", "text": "type of songs and he was working for"}, {"start": "00:23:30", "end": "00:23:34", "text": "years on these songs. He was trying to"}, {"start": "00:23:32", "end": "00:23:36", "text": "compile an album. He was trying to, you"}, {"start": "00:23:34", "end": "00:23:38", "text": "know, get a record deal and try to get"}, {"start": "00:23:36", "end": "00:23:40", "text": "the album out there. Um, and that"}, {"start": "00:23:38", "end": "00:23:43", "text": "project, the Bobby Ewing project, kind"}, {"start": "00:23:40", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "of just never came to fruition. Um, and"}, {"start": "00:23:43", "end": "00:23:48", "text": "neither did the Michael Jackson songs."}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:50", "text": "So, they'd spent all this time on these"}, {"start": "00:23:48", "end": "00:23:54", "text": "two separate projects. Neither of them"}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:56", "text": "came to be. Michael Jackson then died"}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:23:58", "text": "and they've basically said, \"Well, [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:24:01", "text": "we've got all these songs. What are we"}, {"start": "00:23:58", "end": "00:24:04", "text": "going to do with them?\" Um, and in the"}, {"start": "00:24:01", "end": "00:24:07", "text": "end there was a a selection of the Bobby"}, {"start": "00:24:04", "end": "00:24:10", "text": "Euing songs and a selection of the"}, {"start": "00:24:07", "end": "00:24:12", "text": "Michael Jackson or the to be Michael"}, {"start": "00:24:10", "end": "00:24:14", "text": "Jackson songs or at least they hoped to"}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:15", "text": "be Michael Jackson songs cuz Michael"}, {"start": "00:24:14", "end": "00:24:17", "text": "Jackson actually never expressed"}, {"start": "00:24:15", "end": "00:24:18", "text": "interest in actually recording these"}, {"start": "00:24:17", "end": "00:24:21", "text": "songs. It was just their kind of pipe"}, {"start": "00:24:18", "end": "00:24:23", "text": "dream that they wanted him to. Um, but"}, {"start": "00:24:21", "end": "00:24:26", "text": "with him being deceased, with Michael"}, {"start": "00:24:23", "end": "00:24:27", "text": "Jackson dying, their chance to actually"}, {"start": "00:24:26", "end": "00:24:30", "text": "bring it to fruition was the most"}, {"start": "00:24:27", "end": "00:24:31", "text": "realistic that they'd ever had. So"}, {"start": "00:24:30", "end": "00:24:33", "text": "that's what they did. They brought it to"}, {"start": "00:24:31", "end": "00:24:35", "text": "fruition as a Michael Jackson album uh"}, {"start": "00:24:33", "end": "00:24:39", "text": "without him."}, {"start": "00:24:35", "end": "00:24:41", "text": ">> So we surmise that Jason Malachi did"}, {"start": "00:24:39", "end": "00:24:43", "text": "this, recorded them, but Jason Malachi"}, {"start": "00:24:41", "end": "00:24:46", "text": "has never, he has always said, I can't"}, {"start": "00:24:43", "end": "00:24:47", "text": "confirm or deny it."}, {"start": "00:24:46", "end": "00:24:51", "text": "And"}, {"start": "00:24:47", "end": "00:24:54", "text": ">> except for in 2018 when he did contact"}, {"start": "00:24:51", "end": "00:24:57", "text": "the uh the attorneys who who were"}, {"start": "00:24:54", "end": "00:24:58", "text": "representing the PL the plaintiff in the"}, {"start": "00:24:57", "end": "00:25:00", "text": "consumer fraud lawsuit that you"}, {"start": "00:24:58", "end": "00:25:03", "text": "referenced earlier. So, there's a"}, {"start": "00:25:00", "end": "00:25:06", "text": "consumer fraud lawsuit in in the"}, {"start": "00:25:03", "end": "00:25:09", "text": "California court system, and it at one"}, {"start": "00:25:06", "end": "00:25:11", "text": "point became clear with the evidence"}, {"start": "00:25:09", "end": "00:25:14", "text": "that I had collected and and everything"}, {"start": "00:25:11", "end": "00:25:17", "text": "that was uh how it all added up that"}, {"start": "00:25:14", "end": "00:25:19", "text": "Jason was the singer. And it became"}, {"start": "00:25:17", "end": "00:25:21", "text": "clear that he was perhaps going to be"}, {"start": "00:25:19", "end": "00:25:24", "text": "added as a defendant in the fraud"}, {"start": "00:25:21", "end": "00:25:26", "text": "component of that lawsuit. And I think"}, {"start": "00:25:24", "end": "00:25:28", "text": "when he realized that it was kind of"}, {"start": "00:25:26", "end": "00:25:32", "text": "writing on the wall for him in that"}, {"start": "00:25:28", "end": "00:25:33", "text": "capacity, there was this outreach to the"}, {"start": "00:25:32", "end": "00:25:37", "text": "attorneys and saying, \"Look, let me help"}, {"start": "00:25:33", "end": "00:25:39", "text": "you resolve this.\" Um, I did I did sing"}, {"start": "00:25:37", "end": "00:25:41", "text": "these songs, but can we resolve it in"}, {"start": "00:25:39", "end": "00:25:43", "text": "some way? That quickly got squashed by"}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:45", "text": "the estate and Sony. They did not want"}, {"start": "00:25:43", "end": "00:25:48", "text": "him coming and telling the truth. Um,"}, {"start": "00:25:45", "end": "00:25:48", "text": "and he basically has never said a word"}, {"start": "00:25:48", "end": "00:25:50", "text": "since."}, {"start": "00:25:48", "end": "00:25:52", "text": ">> But it would have exonerated them. I"}, {"start": "00:25:50", "end": "00:25:54", "text": "don't understand that they were the"}, {"start": "00:25:52", "end": "00:25:57", "text": "victims of fraud. They were sold a"}, {"start": "00:25:54", "end": "00:25:59", "text": "fraudulent piece of art."}, {"start": "00:25:57", "end": "00:26:02", "text": "Why wouldn't they want to? Because it"}, {"start": "00:25:59", "end": "00:26:02", "text": "would make them seem stupid. What do you"}, {"start": "00:26:02", "end": "00:26:03", "text": "think?"}, {"start": "00:26:02", "end": "00:26:05", "text": ">> Yes. Okay."}, {"start": "00:26:03", "end": "00:26:07", "text": ">> Somebody Somebody in the industry once"}, {"start": "00:26:05", "end": "00:26:09", "text": "told me, \"Never underestimate the hubris"}, {"start": "00:26:07", "end": "00:26:11", "text": "of John Branco.\""}, {"start": "00:26:09", "end": "00:26:13", "text": ">> So, he's"}, {"start": "00:26:11", "end": "00:26:15", "text": "too much pride. And you you'll hear"}, {"start": "00:26:13", "end": "00:26:17", "text": "people in the podcast saying that they"}, {"start": "00:26:15", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "were so cocky and they were so confident"}, {"start": "00:26:17", "end": "00:26:20", "text": "that they thought that they would get"}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:23", "text": "away with this. And I think that there"}, {"start": "00:26:20", "end": "00:26:25", "text": "was just yeah this this embarrassment of"}, {"start": "00:26:23", "end": "00:26:28", "text": "not having been able to accept that"}, {"start": "00:26:25", "end": "00:26:30", "text": "they'd been defrauded by these people."}, {"start": "00:26:28", "end": "00:26:33", "text": "And I guess if they could get away with"}, {"start": "00:26:30", "end": "00:26:34", "text": "it without ever admitting that they'd"}, {"start": "00:26:33", "end": "00:26:36", "text": "released fake songs, then that would"}, {"start": "00:26:34", "end": "00:26:38", "text": "limit their liability. And so there's"}, {"start": "00:26:36", "end": "00:26:43", "text": "probably some legal wranglings and some"}, {"start": "00:26:38", "end": "00:26:45", "text": "some legal reasons why they chose to"}, {"start": "00:26:43", "end": "00:26:48", "text": "continue to say it was Michael or at"}, {"start": "00:26:45", "end": "00:26:49", "text": "least not to say that it wasn't Michael."}, {"start": "00:26:48", "end": "00:26:51", "text": "Um,"}, {"start": "00:26:49", "end": "00:26:53", "text": ">> but I mean it doesn't really make in in"}, {"start": "00:26:51", "end": "00:26:56", "text": "a rational world when you're the victim"}, {"start": "00:26:53", "end": "00:26:57", "text": "of fraud, you would want to be"}, {"start": "00:26:56", "end": "00:26:59", "text": ">> you want would want to get justice for"}, {"start": "00:26:57", "end": "00:27:02", "text": "yourself. But in this case, they didn't"}, {"start": "00:26:59", "end": "00:27:05", "text": "want to do that. They wanted to still"}, {"start": "00:27:02", "end": "00:27:06", "text": "defend their actions, not and not pivot"}, {"start": "00:27:05", "end": "00:27:08", "text": "and not change their position and not"}, {"start": "00:27:06", "end": "00:27:11", "text": "just have the humility to say, you know"}, {"start": "00:27:08", "end": "00:27:12", "text": "what, at one point we thought it was"}, {"start": "00:27:11", "end": "00:27:15", "text": "Michael. We were tricked. It's now"}, {"start": "00:27:12", "end": "00:27:17", "text": "become clear that it's not. Jason, the"}, {"start": "00:27:15", "end": "00:27:19", "text": "guy who sang it, is literally calling us"}, {"start": "00:27:17", "end": "00:27:22", "text": "and saying, \"I sang it. Let's resolve"}, {"start": "00:27:19", "end": "00:27:23", "text": "this. We have to change positions.\" And"}, {"start": "00:27:22", "end": "00:27:25", "text": "they could very well have joined the"}, {"start": "00:27:23", "end": "00:27:27", "text": "plaintiff's side of the lawsuit. I have"}, {"start": "00:27:25", "end": "00:27:30", "text": "no doubt that the plaintiff, whose name"}, {"start": "00:27:27", "end": "00:27:32", "text": "is Vera Arova, a very incredible woman,"}, {"start": "00:27:30", "end": "00:27:34", "text": "um, she would have accepted that if to"}, {"start": "00:27:32", "end": "00:27:36", "text": "drop the component of the lawsuit"}, {"start": "00:27:34", "end": "00:27:38", "text": "against Sony and the estate because they"}, {"start": "00:27:36", "end": "00:27:40", "text": "were sued with misleading the consumer."}, {"start": "00:27:38", "end": "00:27:42", "text": "They weren't sued with fraud because"}, {"start": "00:27:40", "end": "00:27:43", "text": "they didn't create the fake songs. they"}, {"start": "00:27:42", "end": "00:27:45", "text": "just released them and told the world"}, {"start": "00:27:43", "end": "00:27:47", "text": "that they were real. So there was two"}, {"start": "00:27:45", "end": "00:27:49", "text": "separate components to that lawsuit."}, {"start": "00:27:47", "end": "00:27:53", "text": "There was the the consumer side and then"}, {"start": "00:27:49", "end": "00:27:55", "text": "there was the fraud side which the Casio"}, {"start": "00:27:53", "end": "00:27:58", "text": "component is sued with which is Eddie"}, {"start": "00:27:55", "end": "00:28:00", "text": "Casio and James Port. Um I'm I'm sure"}, {"start": "00:27:58", "end": "00:28:01", "text": "I'm sure she would have accepted them to"}, {"start": "00:28:00", "end": "00:28:03", "text": "come across and say, \"Yep, join join the"}, {"start": "00:28:01", "end": "00:28:05", "text": "fraud component. We'll go against them."}, {"start": "00:28:03", "end": "00:28:07", "text": "We'll get justice and I'll drop the"}, {"start": "00:28:05", "end": "00:28:08", "text": "consumer thing against you guys.\" But"}, {"start": "00:28:07", "end": "00:28:10", "text": ">> right"}, {"start": "00:28:08", "end": "00:28:11", "text": ">> wasn't even a line of conversation they"}, {"start": "00:28:10", "end": "00:28:14", "text": "were willing to have. if they were just"}, {"start": "00:28:11", "end": "00:28:16", "text": "going to stand their ground and and make"}, {"start": "00:28:14", "end": "00:28:17", "text": "it the hill that they die on. And they"}, {"start": "00:28:16", "end": "00:28:20", "text": "did die on it."}, {"start": "00:28:17", "end": "00:28:23", "text": ">> Well, even more unbelievable is that you"}, {"start": "00:28:20", "end": "00:28:26", "text": "found they paid for the Casio's legal"}, {"start": "00:28:23", "end": "00:28:28", "text": "defense when they were the victims of"}, {"start": "00:28:26", "end": "00:28:32", "text": "the Casios."}, {"start": "00:28:28", "end": "00:28:34", "text": "I don't how could that be? So,"}, {"start": "00:28:32", "end": "00:28:35", "text": ">> the only rational way I can think that"}, {"start": "00:28:34", "end": "00:28:37", "text": "works is it's kind of maybe like an"}, {"start": "00:28:35", "end": "00:28:39", "text": "errors and omissions policy. if you"}, {"start": "00:28:37", "end": "00:28:40", "text": "appear in someone's documentary and they"}, {"start": "00:28:39", "end": "00:28:42", "text": "agree to cover you if you've said"}, {"start": "00:28:40", "end": "00:28:45", "text": "something that's wrong or not correct,"}, {"start": "00:28:42", "end": "00:28:47", "text": "something along those lines. Um, but it"}, {"start": "00:28:45", "end": "00:28:49", "text": "was but it was well advertised even"}, {"start": "00:28:47", "end": "00:28:50", "text": "before the Casio tracks had been heard"}, {"start": "00:28:49", "end": "00:28:53", "text": "by the public that the estate and Sony"}, {"start": "00:28:50", "end": "00:28:56", "text": "were going to indemnify them. Why would"}, {"start": "00:28:53", "end": "00:28:57", "text": "you need to be indemnified for providing"}, {"start": "00:28:56", "end": "00:28:59", "text": "songs? It was it was always a weird"}, {"start": "00:28:57", "end": "00:29:02", "text": "thing in in the leadup to the release of"}, {"start": "00:28:59", "end": "00:29:04", "text": "the album. The reporter Roger Freriedman"}, {"start": "00:29:02", "end": "00:29:07", "text": "who was publishing articles on his"}, {"start": "00:29:04", "end": "00:29:09", "text": "website was referencing like the Casios"}, {"start": "00:29:07", "end": "00:29:11", "text": "are going to be covered."}, {"start": "00:29:09", "end": "00:29:12", "text": "Why would they need to be if these songs"}, {"start": "00:29:11", "end": "00:29:14", "text": "are genuine? Like that's a weird thing"}, {"start": "00:29:12", "end": "00:29:16", "text": "to do. And in hindsight, it's like"}, {"start": "00:29:14", "end": "00:29:18", "text": ">> what did what was going on behind the"}, {"start": "00:29:16", "end": "00:29:21", "text": "scenes that would even need to indemnify"}, {"start": "00:29:18", "end": "00:29:23", "text": "people for providing songs? It's on face"}, {"start": "00:29:21", "end": "00:29:26", "text": "value if they're real songs. There's"}, {"start": "00:29:23", "end": "00:29:28", "text": "nothing to be indemnified for. But that"}, {"start": "00:29:26", "end": "00:29:32", "text": "was in the reporting,"}, {"start": "00:29:28", "end": "00:29:34", "text": ">> right? So because this case went all the"}, {"start": "00:29:32", "end": "00:29:38", "text": "way to the Supreme Court and let's tell"}, {"start": "00:29:34", "end": "00:29:40", "text": "the story of Vera Serova because there"}, {"start": "00:29:38", "end": "00:29:43", "text": "was a settlement so she can't talk to"}, {"start": "00:29:40", "end": "00:29:46", "text": "us. Um I assume that's basis of the"}, {"start": "00:29:43", "end": "00:29:48", "text": "settlement but what she did is decide"}, {"start": "00:29:46", "end": "00:29:50", "text": "I'm going to sue them because I bought"}, {"start": "00:29:48", "end": "00:29:52", "text": "the album under the assumption that this"}, {"start": "00:29:50", "end": "00:29:54", "text": "is Michael Jackson and this is consumer"}, {"start": "00:29:52", "end": "00:29:56", "text": "fraud. It's the same way you can search"}, {"start": "00:29:54", "end": "00:29:59", "text": "through class action lawsuits all the"}, {"start": "00:29:56", "end": "00:30:01", "text": "time. people sue cereal because, you"}, {"start": "00:29:59", "end": "00:30:02", "text": "know, they say it was more sugary than"}, {"start": "00:30:01", "end": "00:30:07", "text": "they thought. This is this was an"}, {"start": "00:30:02", "end": "00:30:09", "text": "obvious consumer fraud. And so she took"}, {"start": "00:30:07", "end": "00:30:12", "text": "Sony and the Michael Jackson estate and"}, {"start": "00:30:09", "end": "00:30:16", "text": "the Casios to court and their defense"}, {"start": "00:30:12", "end": "00:30:18", "text": "was, \"We have the right to think it was"}, {"start": "00:30:16", "end": "00:30:21", "text": "Michael Jackson. It's it was not our"}, {"start": "00:30:18", "end": "00:30:23", "text": "responsibility to prove it. This was our"}, {"start": "00:30:21", "end": "00:30:26", "text": "first amendment to say we think probably"}, {"start": "00:30:23", "end": "00:30:29", "text": "it is,\" which is an outrageous defense."}, {"start": "00:30:26", "end": "00:30:32", "text": "And the so can you tell me what became"}, {"start": "00:30:29", "end": "00:30:33", "text": "of that and did it mean that the Casios"}, {"start": "00:30:32", "end": "00:30:36", "text": "got off scot-free because of the"}, {"start": "00:30:33", "end": "00:30:38", "text": "settlement?"}, {"start": "00:30:36", "end": "00:30:40", "text": ">> Yeah. So what became of it was was a"}, {"start": "00:30:38", "end": "00:30:42", "text": "settlement in which the the songs that"}, {"start": "00:30:40", "end": "00:30:44", "text": "were released on the album. There was"}, {"start": "00:30:42", "end": "00:30:46", "text": "three songs released on the 2010 album."}, {"start": "00:30:44", "end": "00:30:47", "text": "The album was called Michael. The three"}, {"start": "00:30:46", "end": "00:30:49", "text": "songs that were on that album were"}, {"start": "00:30:47", "end": "00:30:50", "text": "Breaking News, Keep Your Head Up, and"}, {"start": "00:30:49", "end": "00:30:53", "text": "Monster. Those three songs come from"}, {"start": "00:30:50", "end": "00:30:54", "text": "Eddie Casio and James Port. And those"}, {"start": "00:30:53", "end": "00:30:56", "text": "three songs do not feature Michael"}, {"start": "00:30:54", "end": "00:30:59", "text": "Jackson's vocals, but they were included"}, {"start": "00:30:56", "end": "00:31:01", "text": "on that album and promoted by Sony and"}, {"start": "00:30:59", "end": "00:31:03", "text": "the Estate as having vocal tracks"}, {"start": "00:31:01", "end": "00:31:06", "text": "performed by Michael Jackson. And so"}, {"start": "00:31:03", "end": "00:31:08", "text": "when Vera sued them, she was saying that"}, {"start": "00:31:06", "end": "00:31:09", "text": "well actually that statement that you"}, {"start": "00:31:08", "end": "00:31:11", "text": "made on the back of the album cover that"}, {"start": "00:31:09", "end": "00:31:13", "text": "these are vocal tracks performed by"}, {"start": "00:31:11", "end": "00:31:16", "text": "Michael Jackson is untrue. I bought the"}, {"start": "00:31:13", "end": "00:31:17", "text": "album based on the premise that this was"}, {"start": "00:31:16", "end": "00:31:20", "text": "vocal tracks performed by Michael"}, {"start": "00:31:17", "end": "00:31:22", "text": "Jackson. It's not. I want a refund and I"}, {"start": "00:31:20", "end": "00:31:25", "text": "want a refund on behalf of the class"}, {"start": "00:31:22", "end": "00:31:27", "text": "that also bought this and got defrauded."}, {"start": "00:31:25", "end": "00:31:29", "text": "Um, the lawsuit never got class"}, {"start": "00:31:27", "end": "00:31:31", "text": "certified. Sony and the estate pulled"}, {"start": "00:31:29", "end": "00:31:35", "text": "every string that they could to delay"}, {"start": "00:31:31", "end": "00:31:38", "text": "class certification of this uh lawsuit."}, {"start": "00:31:35", "end": "00:31:41", "text": "They pulled a card called the anti-SLAP"}, {"start": "00:31:38", "end": "00:31:42", "text": "card, which is a motion that you can"}, {"start": "00:31:41", "end": "00:31:44", "text": "file to say that this is just a"}, {"start": "00:31:42", "end": "00:31:47", "text": "frivolous lawsuit. we're being sued"}, {"start": "00:31:44", "end": "00:31:50", "text": "unnecessarily and Vera Roverova is"}, {"start": "00:31:47", "end": "00:31:53", "text": "depriving us of our First Amendment"}, {"start": "00:31:50", "end": "00:31:54", "text": "rights. And so their their position was"}, {"start": "00:31:53", "end": "00:31:57", "text": "it doesn't matter if it's Michael or"}, {"start": "00:31:54", "end": "00:31:59", "text": "not. We can say that it is because even"}, {"start": "00:31:57", "end": "00:32:00", "text": "if it is fake, we didn't know it was"}, {"start": "00:31:59", "end": "00:32:02", "text": "fake when we released it. Therefore, we"}, {"start": "00:32:00", "end": "00:32:04", "text": "didn't lie to the consumers. Maybe it"}, {"start": "00:32:02", "end": "00:32:06", "text": "might turn out in hindsight that she"}, {"start": "00:32:04", "end": "00:32:07", "text": "might be right that it's not him. But we"}, {"start": "00:32:06", "end": "00:32:10", "text": "didn't know it when we said it. And so"}, {"start": "00:32:07", "end": "00:32:12", "text": "therefore, we haven't actually defrauded"}, {"start": "00:32:10", "end": "00:32:14", "text": "anybody. And they also said creatively"}, {"start": "00:32:12", "end": "00:32:16", "text": "that they can say anything as Michael"}, {"start": "00:32:14", "end": "00:32:17", "text": "Jackson if they want to. If they if they"}, {"start": "00:32:16", "end": "00:32:18", "text": "want to put the label on it and say that"}, {"start": "00:32:17", "end": "00:32:22", "text": "it's Michael Jackson, then then they"}, {"start": "00:32:18", "end": "00:32:25", "text": "can. And a long story short, this went"}, {"start": "00:32:22", "end": "00:32:28", "text": "in the court system in 2014."}, {"start": "00:32:25", "end": "00:32:30", "text": "It stayed in the court system till 2022."}, {"start": "00:32:28", "end": "00:32:32", "text": "So 8 years. It bounced from the trial"}, {"start": "00:32:30", "end": "00:32:35", "text": "court to the appeals court, back to the"}, {"start": "00:32:32", "end": "00:32:37", "text": "trial court, up to the Supreme Court,"}, {"start": "00:32:35", "end": "00:32:39", "text": "back down to the appeals court, back up"}, {"start": "00:32:37", "end": "00:32:42", "text": "to the Supreme Court. It was ongoing and"}, {"start": "00:32:39", "end": "00:32:44", "text": "ongoing. So every time that the estate"}, {"start": "00:32:42", "end": "00:32:46", "text": "would be told you have to face trial,"}, {"start": "00:32:44", "end": "00:32:47", "text": "the estate would appeal and say we don't"}, {"start": "00:32:46", "end": "00:32:49", "text": "want to. And then the appeals court"}, {"start": "00:32:47", "end": "00:32:51", "text": "would say okay you don't have to go to"}, {"start": "00:32:49", "end": "00:32:53", "text": "trial and then it would go back and then"}, {"start": "00:32:51", "end": "00:32:56", "text": "ver would say no no no they should face"}, {"start": "00:32:53", "end": "00:32:58", "text": "trial. And in in the end um it got to a"}, {"start": "00:32:56", "end": "00:33:01", "text": "panel at the Supreme Court. there was a"}, {"start": "00:32:58", "end": "00:33:04", "text": "hearing and the determination was made"}, {"start": "00:33:01", "end": "00:33:06", "text": "that none of their excuses"}, {"start": "00:33:04", "end": "00:33:08", "text": "as far as like it's our creative free"}, {"start": "00:33:06", "end": "00:33:10", "text": "speech, our first amendment right to say"}, {"start": "00:33:08", "end": "00:33:12", "text": "that it is and also we didn't know so we"}, {"start": "00:33:10", "end": "00:33:14", "text": "can't be held liable because we didn't"}, {"start": "00:33:12", "end": "00:33:16", "text": "make the songs like we didn't know. Um"}, {"start": "00:33:14", "end": "00:33:19", "text": "the courts rejected both of those"}, {"start": "00:33:16", "end": "00:33:21", "text": "defenses and said regardless of these"}, {"start": "00:33:19", "end": "00:33:23", "text": "two things, you can't be selling an"}, {"start": "00:33:21", "end": "00:33:25", "text": "album with songs on it that you're"}, {"start": "00:33:23", "end": "00:33:27", "text": "labeling to your consumers who are fans"}, {"start": "00:33:25", "end": "00:33:29", "text": "of Michael Jackson. you're labeling"}, {"start": "00:33:27", "end": "00:33:31", "text": "these songs as Michael Jackson, selling"}, {"start": "00:33:29", "end": "00:33:34", "text": "them to them as they are Michael Jackson"}, {"start": "00:33:31", "end": "00:33:36", "text": "and they're not. So, you got to face the"}, {"start": "00:33:34", "end": "00:33:38", "text": "music. And as soon as it became clear to"}, {"start": "00:33:36", "end": "00:33:40", "text": "Sony and the estate that this was"}, {"start": "00:33:38", "end": "00:33:43", "text": "actually going to go to trial and all of"}, {"start": "00:33:40", "end": "00:33:45", "text": "their 8 years of delaying and anti-slap"}, {"start": "00:33:43", "end": "00:33:47", "text": "motions and appeals back and forth, all"}, {"start": "00:33:45", "end": "00:33:49", "text": "that was was fruitless. They they"}, {"start": "00:33:47", "end": "00:33:52", "text": "failed. The Supreme Court overruled them"}, {"start": "00:33:49", "end": "00:33:54", "text": "and ruled in favor of Vera. Um Sony and"}, {"start": "00:33:52", "end": "00:33:54", "text": "the estate were like like that."}, {"start": "00:33:54", "end": "00:33:57", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:33:54", "end": "00:34:00", "text": ">> Settle it. The one demand that there was"}, {"start": "00:33:57", "end": "00:34:01", "text": "one demand that Ver made going into that"}, {"start": "00:34:00", "end": "00:34:02", "text": "lawsuit, which was just remove the"}, {"start": "00:34:01", "end": "00:34:04", "text": "songs."}, {"start": "00:34:02", "end": "00:34:06", "text": ">> The whole thing could have not even been"}, {"start": "00:34:04", "end": "00:34:07", "text": "a lawsuit cuz she approached them before"}, {"start": "00:34:06", "end": "00:34:10", "text": "she sued them and gave them chances"}, {"start": "00:34:07", "end": "00:34:13", "text": "like, \"Look, it's not him. We can prove"}, {"start": "00:34:10", "end": "00:34:15", "text": "it's not him. Let's just take the songs"}, {"start": "00:34:13", "end": "00:34:17", "text": "down and be done with it.\""}, {"start": "00:34:15", "end": "00:34:20", "text": ">> And they didn't they didn't do that."}, {"start": "00:34:17", "end": "00:34:22", "text": "Like it was a general good uh like a"}, {"start": "00:34:20", "end": "00:34:24", "text": "good intention from her to say, \"Look, I"}, {"start": "00:34:22", "end": "00:34:25", "text": "don't want it, Sue. I just want the"}, {"start": "00:34:24", "end": "00:34:29", "text": "songs to be gone because they're not"}, {"start": "00:34:25", "end": "00:34:30", "text": "him. And they were like, \"No.\" And so"}, {"start": "00:34:29", "end": "00:34:32", "text": "then went through that 8-year process,"}, {"start": "00:34:30", "end": "00:34:33", "text": "and in the end, she got what she wanted"}, {"start": "00:34:32", "end": "00:34:35", "text": "anyway, which was the songs were"}, {"start": "00:34:33", "end": "00:34:37", "text": "removed. Sony and the estate knew that"}, {"start": "00:34:35", "end": "00:34:39", "text": "they couldn't defend this anymore. Their"}, {"start": "00:34:37", "end": "00:34:41", "text": "their First Amendment defense and their"}, {"start": "00:34:39", "end": "00:34:43", "text": "we didn't know defense were out the"}, {"start": "00:34:41", "end": "00:34:45", "text": "window"}, {"start": "00:34:43", "end": "00:34:46", "text": "and it was it was going to be a"}, {"start": "00:34:45", "end": "00:34:48", "text": "free-for-all. If that went to trial,"}, {"start": "00:34:46", "end": "00:34:49", "text": "they would have been highly embarrassed."}, {"start": "00:34:48", "end": "00:34:51", "text": "Would have been a discovery. There would"}, {"start": "00:34:49", "end": "00:34:52", "text": "have been witnesses brought in. There"}, {"start": "00:34:51", "end": "00:34:54", "text": "would have been experts brought in and"}, {"start": "00:34:52", "end": "00:34:57", "text": "it would have been an absolute [ __ ] show"}, {"start": "00:34:54", "end": "00:35:00", "text": "for them and they didn't want that. So"}, {"start": "00:34:57", "end": "00:35:03", "text": "they just swallowed as much as as few"}, {"start": "00:35:00", "end": "00:35:05", "text": "amount of pride as they could remove the"}, {"start": "00:35:03", "end": "00:35:07", "text": "fake songs and went on with business."}, {"start": "00:35:05", "end": "00:35:09", "text": ">> Well, they would have had to have"}, {"start": "00:35:07", "end": "00:35:12", "text": "deposed and then eventually put Jason"}, {"start": "00:35:09", "end": "00:35:15", "text": "Malachi on the stand."}, {"start": "00:35:12", "end": "00:35:18", "text": ">> And it was like he was not prepared to"}, {"start": "00:35:15", "end": "00:35:21", "text": "lie under oath because he doesn't seem"}, {"start": "00:35:18", "end": "00:35:23", "text": "to be lying. He continuously said I"}, {"start": "00:35:21", "end": "00:35:26", "text": "can't confirm or deny it even to his"}, {"start": "00:35:23", "end": "00:35:26", "text": "closest friends. So"}, {"start": "00:35:26", "end": "00:35:28", "text": ">> I don't it's"}, {"start": "00:35:26", "end": "00:35:32", "text": ">> well he was in a very difficult position"}, {"start": "00:35:28", "end": "00:35:35", "text": ">> right now. Did he ever come into money"}, {"start": "00:35:32", "end": "00:35:38", "text": "suddenly? Like what did he get from this"}, {"start": "00:35:35", "end": "00:35:41", "text": "other than misery?"}, {"start": "00:35:38", "end": "00:35:43", "text": ">> He's never disclosed what he got. So"}, {"start": "00:35:41", "end": "00:35:45", "text": "basically Jason's never really spoken"}, {"start": "00:35:43", "end": "00:35:48", "text": "directly about this. he's kind of danced"}, {"start": "00:35:45", "end": "00:35:50", "text": "around it in one particular interview in"}, {"start": "00:35:48", "end": "00:35:53", "text": "which he kind of just basically says he"}, {"start": "00:35:50", "end": "00:35:56", "text": "can't talk about it. Um he expressed uh"}, {"start": "00:35:53", "end": "00:35:59", "text": "his feelings about the aftermath of it a"}, {"start": "00:35:56", "end": "00:36:01", "text": "little bit to some extent. But um but"}, {"start": "00:35:59", "end": "00:36:03", "text": "really he's like silent and it's you"}, {"start": "00:36:01", "end": "00:36:05", "text": "know it's my hope that at some point in"}, {"start": "00:36:03", "end": "00:36:07", "text": "the future he'll change his mind and"}, {"start": "00:36:05", "end": "00:36:09", "text": "then agree to tell his side of the story"}, {"start": "00:36:07", "end": "00:36:11", "text": "because I think when it's all said and"}, {"start": "00:36:09", "end": "00:36:12", "text": "done as much as people want to point the"}, {"start": "00:36:11", "end": "00:36:15", "text": "finger at Jason and say ah you're"}, {"start": "00:36:12", "end": "00:36:17", "text": "singing on the fake songs."}, {"start": "00:36:15", "end": "00:36:19", "text": "He was he was dragged into this by two"}, {"start": "00:36:17", "end": "00:36:21", "text": "people who masterminded a conspiracy."}, {"start": "00:36:19", "end": "00:36:23", "text": "And they didn't just drag Jason into it."}, {"start": "00:36:21", "end": "00:36:25", "text": "They dragged they dragged big famous"}, {"start": "00:36:23", "end": "00:36:27", "text": "attorneys into this. They dragged people"}, {"start": "00:36:25", "end": "00:36:29", "text": "that had worked with Michael Jackson for"}, {"start": "00:36:27", "end": "00:36:31", "text": "years who they had fooled into believing"}, {"start": "00:36:29", "end": "00:36:34", "text": "that their lie was true. They dragged"}, {"start": "00:36:31", "end": "00:36:35", "text": "them into it. They dragged musicians who"}, {"start": "00:36:34", "end": "00:36:37", "text": "played on the songs. They made them all"}, {"start": "00:36:35", "end": "00:36:40", "text": "sign NDAs. None of them can talk about"}, {"start": "00:36:37", "end": "00:36:43", "text": "this. Um Jason had signed an NDA. He"}, {"start": "00:36:40", "end": "00:36:49", "text": "can't talk about this. Um, everyone's"}, {"start": "00:36:43", "end": "00:36:51", "text": "been silenced by them in advance of even"}, {"start": "00:36:49", "end": "00:36:53", "text": "the fraud even being exposed just in"}, {"start": "00:36:51", "end": "00:36:54", "text": "case it would be because now they're in"}, {"start": "00:36:53", "end": "00:36:56", "text": "a position where none of the people that"}, {"start": "00:36:54", "end": "00:36:57", "text": "they dragged into this are actually"}, {"start": "00:36:56", "end": "00:36:59", "text": "willing to speak out. Whether it's their"}, {"start": "00:36:57", "end": "00:37:01", "text": "attorney through attorney client"}, {"start": "00:36:59", "end": "00:37:02", "text": "privilege, he can't talk about it. Or if"}, {"start": "00:37:01", "end": "00:37:04", "text": "it's a musician or an engineer or"}, {"start": "00:37:02", "end": "00:37:05", "text": "somebody else who they dragged into it,"}, {"start": "00:37:04", "end": "00:37:07", "text": "they can't talk about it because they're"}, {"start": "00:37:05", "end": "00:37:07", "text": "all NDA."}, {"start": "00:37:07", "end": "00:37:08", "text": ">> Um,"}, {"start": "00:37:07", "end": "00:37:10", "text": ">> yeah."}, {"start": "00:37:08", "end": "00:37:11", "text": ">> And then it's like, who's going to talk"}, {"start": "00:37:10", "end": "00:37:12", "text": "about it? And that was the whole reason"}, {"start": "00:37:11", "end": "00:37:14", "text": "for the podcast really. It's like who is"}, {"start": "00:37:12", "end": "00:37:16", "text": "going to talk about this if Jason can't"}, {"start": "00:37:14", "end": "00:37:18", "text": "say his side of the story. If the"}, {"start": "00:37:16", "end": "00:37:20", "text": "musicians who are dragged into this"}, {"start": "00:37:18", "end": "00:37:22", "text": "can't say their side of the story. Um"}, {"start": "00:37:20", "end": "00:37:24", "text": "the estate and Sony are obviously too"}, {"start": "00:37:22", "end": "00:37:26", "text": "proud to tell their true side of the"}, {"start": "00:37:24", "end": "00:37:28", "text": "story. Um they're just going with the"}, {"start": "00:37:26", "end": "00:37:30", "text": "Casio's side of the story until it's at"}, {"start": "00:37:28", "end": "00:37:33", "text": "the point of no return. So that was that"}, {"start": "00:37:30", "end": "00:37:35", "text": "that's why the podcast became necessary."}, {"start": "00:37:33", "end": "00:37:36", "text": "It's because like nobody is talking"}, {"start": "00:37:35", "end": "00:37:38", "text": "about the biggest fraud in the history"}, {"start": "00:37:36", "end": "00:37:40", "text": "of the music business. How can this be"}, {"start": "00:37:38", "end": "00:37:42", "text": "possible that nobody is talking about"}, {"start": "00:37:40", "end": "00:37:44", "text": "it? This is like the biggest music"}, {"start": "00:37:42", "end": "00:37:47", "text": "industry scandal when it comes to"}, {"start": "00:37:44", "end": "00:37:49", "text": "artistic fraud ever to shake the music"}, {"start": "00:37:47", "end": "00:37:52", "text": "industry. And it not only didn't shake"}, {"start": "00:37:49", "end": "00:37:53", "text": "it, it barely even rattled it. Like not"}, {"start": "00:37:52", "end": "00:37:55", "text": "even a little bit. It's like the"}, {"start": "00:37:53", "end": "00:37:59", "text": "elephant in the room."}, {"start": "00:37:55", "end": "00:38:01", "text": ">> Well, yes. And you know, there's also a"}, {"start": "00:37:59", "end": "00:38:04", "text": "human element here. Now, we see the"}, {"start": "00:38:01", "end": "00:38:05", "text": "Casios crying tears about abuse on 60"}, {"start": "00:38:04", "end": "00:38:07", "text": "Minutes Australia and to the New York"}, {"start": "00:38:05", "end": "00:38:09", "text": "Times. And again, I had said we're not"}, {"start": "00:38:07", "end": "00:38:12", "text": "going to evaluate their sexual"}, {"start": "00:38:09", "end": "00:38:15", "text": "harassment claims, but"}, {"start": "00:38:12", "end": "00:38:18", "text": "if we're talking about the emotions, you"}, {"start": "00:38:15", "end": "00:38:20", "text": "know, whether if they were close"}, {"start": "00:38:18", "end": "00:38:22", "text": "friends, as they have always claimed to"}, {"start": "00:38:20", "end": "00:38:24", "text": "have been to Michael Jackson, that he'd"}, {"start": "00:38:22", "end": "00:38:26", "text": "show up at the door and eat Mama's"}, {"start": "00:38:24", "end": "00:38:27", "text": "lasagna unannounced."}, {"start": "00:38:26", "end": "00:38:27", "text": ">> That was all true,"}, {"start": "00:38:27", "end": "00:38:28", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:38:27", "end": "00:38:29", "text": ">> But they were. They were. That's all"}, {"start": "00:38:28", "end": "00:38:32", "text": "true. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:38:29", "end": "00:38:35", "text": ">> Yes. I'm not doubting that. But two days"}, {"start": "00:38:32", "end": "00:38:38", "text": "after he died, they rushed to the cop"}, {"start": "00:38:35", "end": "00:38:40", "text": "copyright office and file new"}, {"start": "00:38:38", "end": "00:38:43", "text": "registration, new copyright for Michael"}, {"start": "00:38:40", "end": "00:38:45", "text": "Jackson's songs, list his name on the"}, {"start": "00:38:43", "end": "00:38:48", "text": "copyright. It's just very strange"}, {"start": "00:38:45", "end": "00:38:50", "text": "because if my closest friend died, I"}, {"start": "00:38:48", "end": "00:38:52", "text": "don't know that I would be thinking"}, {"start": "00:38:50", "end": "00:38:54", "text": "about that two days later, how do I get"}, {"start": "00:38:52", "end": "00:38:58", "text": "the artistic projects that we had worked"}, {"start": "00:38:54", "end": "00:39:00", "text": "on across the finish line? And so"}, {"start": "00:38:58", "end": "00:39:03", "text": "there's that human element there that I"}, {"start": "00:39:00", "end": "00:39:05", "text": "just, you know, in in sort of a heart"}, {"start": "00:39:03", "end": "00:39:06", "text": "way I can't get over, you know what I"}, {"start": "00:39:05", "end": "00:39:08", "text": "mean?"}, {"start": "00:39:06", "end": "00:39:11", "text": ">> It's a it's a very very strange thing to"}, {"start": "00:39:08", "end": "00:39:12", "text": "have done. Um, and those copyright"}, {"start": "00:39:11", "end": "00:39:14", "text": "registrations are also an interesting"}, {"start": "00:39:12", "end": "00:39:18", "text": "story because there's an extra element,"}, {"start": "00:39:14", "end": "00:39:20", "text": "an extra layer of fraud in those"}, {"start": "00:39:18", "end": "00:39:22", "text": "copyright registrations. these songs"}, {"start": "00:39:20", "end": "00:39:23", "text": "that you're talking about were songs"}, {"start": "00:39:22", "end": "00:39:26", "text": "that they had been working on while"}, {"start": "00:39:23", "end": "00:39:29", "text": "Michael was alive, many of which they"}, {"start": "00:39:26", "end": "00:39:30", "text": "had already previously registered. And"}, {"start": "00:39:29", "end": "00:39:31", "text": "so for anyone who's listening who"}, {"start": "00:39:30", "end": "00:39:34", "text": "doesn't understand the mechanism of the"}, {"start": "00:39:31", "end": "00:39:36", "text": "copyright office, what you do if you're"}, {"start": "00:39:34", "end": "00:39:38", "text": "an artist and you want to protect the"}, {"start": "00:39:36", "end": "00:39:40", "text": "authorship of something you have created"}, {"start": "00:39:38", "end": "00:39:42", "text": "and you want to be able to get a"}, {"start": "00:39:40", "end": "00:39:45", "text": "government verified timestamp on this"}, {"start": "00:39:42", "end": "00:39:47", "text": "existing in this moment, you can file a"}, {"start": "00:39:45", "end": "00:39:50", "text": "copyright claim with a copy of the music"}, {"start": "00:39:47", "end": "00:39:53", "text": "and you describe who contributed to the"}, {"start": "00:39:50", "end": "00:39:55", "text": "creation of it. And that timestamp"}, {"start": "00:39:53", "end": "00:39:57", "text": "allows you to then refer back to it in"}, {"start": "00:39:55", "end": "00:39:59", "text": "the future. If you if someone steals"}, {"start": "00:39:57", "end": "00:40:01", "text": "your idea, you can say, \"Well, hang on a"}, {"start": "00:39:59", "end": "00:40:03", "text": "second. In 2005, I filed a copyright"}, {"start": "00:40:01", "end": "00:40:06", "text": "claim for that song, and here is the"}, {"start": "00:40:03", "end": "00:40:09", "text": "song as it was in 2005, and here is me"}, {"start": "00:40:06", "end": "00:40:11", "text": "and my coowwriter listed as the writers."}, {"start": "00:40:09", "end": "00:40:13", "text": "You're not on there. This existed long"}, {"start": "00:40:11", "end": "00:40:16", "text": "before you came up with this. Um, this"}, {"start": "00:40:13", "end": "00:40:19", "text": "is my song. You've stolen it.\" And so,"}, {"start": "00:40:16", "end": "00:40:21", "text": "James Port and Eddie Casio spent years"}, {"start": "00:40:19", "end": "00:40:24", "text": "protecting the songs that they had"}, {"start": "00:40:21", "end": "00:40:26", "text": "written both together and separately. So"}, {"start": "00:40:24", "end": "00:40:28", "text": "James was working on his own songs,"}, {"start": "00:40:26", "end": "00:40:29", "text": "Eddie was working on his own songs. And"}, {"start": "00:40:28", "end": "00:40:31", "text": "collectively, James and Eddie were"}, {"start": "00:40:29", "end": "00:40:33", "text": "working on songs together. And like I"}, {"start": "00:40:31", "end": "00:40:35", "text": "said earlier, some of those were for the"}, {"start": "00:40:33", "end": "00:40:37", "text": "the Bobby Ewing project, some of them"}, {"start": "00:40:35", "end": "00:40:39", "text": "were for the prospective Michael Jackson"}, {"start": "00:40:37", "end": "00:40:40", "text": "project. And some of them were just"}, {"start": "00:40:39", "end": "00:40:43", "text": "other songs altogether that had nothing"}, {"start": "00:40:40", "end": "00:40:45", "text": "to do with either. And there was a long"}, {"start": "00:40:43", "end": "00:40:48", "text": "paper trail while Michael was still"}, {"start": "00:40:45", "end": "00:40:50", "text": "alive of all of these songs being"}, {"start": "00:40:48", "end": "00:40:53", "text": "registered. And even the ones that were"}, {"start": "00:40:50", "end": "00:40:55", "text": "intended for Michael Jackson had been"}, {"start": "00:40:53", "end": "00:40:57", "text": "registered without Michael's name on"}, {"start": "00:40:55", "end": "00:40:59", "text": "there because he hadn't participated in"}, {"start": "00:40:57", "end": "00:41:01", "text": "the co-writing of the songs. He hadn't"}, {"start": "00:40:59", "end": "00:41:03", "text": "actually created the songs. They just"}, {"start": "00:41:01", "end": "00:41:06", "text": "wanted him to record the songs. And so"}, {"start": "00:41:03", "end": "00:41:09", "text": "when he died, they took those same songs"}, {"start": "00:41:06", "end": "00:41:11", "text": "back to the copyright office again and"}, {"start": "00:41:09", "end": "00:41:12", "text": "added his name to them. And these are"}, {"start": "00:41:11", "end": "00:41:14", "text": "Bobby Euing songs. These are songs for"}, {"start": "00:41:12", "end": "00:41:15", "text": "other artists. And they're the songs for"}, {"start": "00:41:14", "end": "00:41:17", "text": "Michael Jackson. They basically"}, {"start": "00:41:15", "end": "00:41:19", "text": "assembled their best collection of"}, {"start": "00:41:17", "end": "00:41:21", "text": "whatever the best songs they thought"}, {"start": "00:41:19", "end": "00:41:23", "text": "they had were and they claimed that"}, {"start": "00:41:21", "end": "00:41:26", "text": "Michael Jackson had co-written all of"}, {"start": "00:41:23", "end": "00:41:28", "text": "them, which is a federal crime. That's"}, {"start": "00:41:26", "end": "00:41:31", "text": "committing perjury against the US"}, {"start": "00:41:28", "end": "00:41:33", "text": "government to falsely claim that someone"}, {"start": "00:41:31", "end": "00:41:34", "text": "had participated in the creation of"}, {"start": "00:41:33", "end": "00:41:38", "text": "something that they hadn't participated"}, {"start": "00:41:34", "end": "00:41:39", "text": "in the creation of. and then using that"}, {"start": "00:41:38", "end": "00:41:42", "text": "paper trail that they had now created"}, {"start": "00:41:39", "end": "00:41:43", "text": "with his name on there as a way to give"}, {"start": "00:41:42", "end": "00:41:45", "text": "these songs more value than they would"}, {"start": "00:41:43", "end": "00:41:48", "text": "have had if they had no connection to"}, {"start": "00:41:45", "end": "00:41:49", "text": "Michael Jackson. And so you in the"}, {"start": "00:41:48", "end": "00:41:51", "text": "podcast there's actually a couple of"}, {"start": "00:41:49", "end": "00:41:53", "text": "interviews with people from like"}, {"start": "00:41:51", "end": "00:41:54", "text": "copyright specialists from the copyright"}, {"start": "00:41:53", "end": "00:41:56", "text": "office where they say"}, {"start": "00:41:54", "end": "00:41:58", "text": ">> it's hilarious cuz you keep calling them"}, {"start": "00:41:56", "end": "00:41:59", "text": "back. You're like that can't be it"}, {"start": "00:41:58", "end": "00:42:00", "text": "cannot be."}, {"start": "00:41:59", "end": "00:42:02", "text": ">> I've called them back Yeah. three or"}, {"start": "00:42:00", "end": "00:42:04", "text": "four times just to like I don't want to"}, {"start": "00:42:02", "end": "00:42:07", "text": "make a claim out in in a podcast that's"}, {"start": "00:42:04", "end": "00:42:10", "text": "that's not true. And like I went to the"}, {"start": "00:42:07", "end": "00:42:12", "text": "copyright office in the US twice. I I"}, {"start": "00:42:10", "end": "00:42:14", "text": "consulted them on the phone four times"}, {"start": "00:42:12", "end": "00:42:16", "text": "and I kept going back to them because I"}, {"start": "00:42:14", "end": "00:42:18", "text": "was like I just need to make sure maybe"}, {"start": "00:42:16", "end": "00:42:19", "text": "if I speak to a different person they'll"}, {"start": "00:42:18", "end": "00:42:21", "text": "they'll have a different perspective on"}, {"start": "00:42:19", "end": "00:42:23", "text": "what's happened here. And every single"}, {"start": "00:42:21", "end": "00:42:24", "text": "person I spoke to told me the same"}, {"start": "00:42:23", "end": "00:42:27", "text": "thing. Like you can't just postumously"}, {"start": "00:42:24", "end": "00:42:29", "text": "add someone's name to something when"}, {"start": "00:42:27", "end": "00:42:31", "text": "it's it's previously been registered and"}, {"start": "00:42:29", "end": "00:42:33", "text": "you've never claimed that they had any"}, {"start": "00:42:31", "end": "00:42:34", "text": "involvement in it."}, {"start": "00:42:33", "end": "00:42:36", "text": ">> You can though what they say"}, {"start": "00:42:34", "end": "00:42:38", "text": ">> you can do it."}, {"start": "00:42:36", "end": "00:42:40", "text": ">> You can take we take it at face value."}, {"start": "00:42:38", "end": "00:42:42", "text": "So I can say"}, {"start": "00:42:40", "end": "00:42:44", "text": ">> I wrote a song with Michael Jackson and"}, {"start": "00:42:42", "end": "00:42:46", "text": "I can copyright it"}, {"start": "00:42:44", "end": "00:42:48", "text": ">> and it can be the dumbest thing ever"}, {"start": "00:42:46", "end": "00:42:51", "text": ">> and they will not fact check it even"}, {"start": "00:42:48", "end": "00:42:53", "text": "though Michael Jackson's dead. I can say"}, {"start": "00:42:51", "end": "00:42:55", "text": "we did this in 1984, you know, when I"}, {"start": "00:42:53", "end": "00:42:57", "text": "was 5 years old"}, {"start": "00:42:55", "end": "00:43:00", "text": ">> and they won't fact. So you can actually"}, {"start": "00:42:57", "end": "00:43:02", "text": "add whoever you want."}, {"start": "00:43:00", "end": "00:43:05", "text": ">> Absolutely. But what there in this"}, {"start": "00:43:02", "end": "00:43:07", "text": "particular case is"}, {"start": "00:43:05", "end": "00:43:09", "text": "is if you would have registered that"}, {"start": "00:43:07", "end": "00:43:11", "text": "song when you were 5 years old in 1984"}, {"start": "00:43:09", "end": "00:43:14", "text": "and you said you had written it and then"}, {"start": "00:43:11", "end": "00:43:15", "text": "you've waited until a famous pop star"}, {"start": "00:43:14", "end": "00:43:16", "text": "has died and it doesn't have to be"}, {"start": "00:43:15", "end": "00:43:18", "text": "Michael Jackson. It could be anybody."}, {"start": "00:43:16", "end": "00:43:20", "text": "Could be Whitney Houston and you want to"}, {"start": "00:43:18", "end": "00:43:22", "text": "go back and find that 5-year-old song"}, {"start": "00:43:20", "end": "00:43:23", "text": "that you wrote and say, \"Well, Whitney"}, {"start": "00:43:22", "end": "00:43:25", "text": "Houston's died now. I'm going to say"}, {"start": "00:43:23", "end": "00:43:27", "text": "that I co-wrote this song with Whitney"}, {"start": "00:43:25", "end": "00:43:28", "text": "Houston.\" And then there's a copyright"}, {"start": "00:43:27", "end": "00:43:30", "text": "registration for this song. It's"}, {"start": "00:43:28", "end": "00:43:32", "text": "co-written by you and Whitney Houston."}, {"start": "00:43:30", "end": "00:43:34", "text": "Wow, there's an unreleased Whitney"}, {"start": "00:43:32", "end": "00:43:37", "text": "Houston co-rote co-written song. That"}, {"start": "00:43:34", "end": "00:43:38", "text": "has value. If she co-wrote it, if it's"}, {"start": "00:43:37", "end": "00:43:39", "text": "just your song, it has no value. And"}, {"start": "00:43:38", "end": "00:43:41", "text": "that's what the guy at the copyright"}, {"start": "00:43:39", "end": "00:43:43", "text": "office was telling me. It's like the"}, {"start": "00:43:41", "end": "00:43:46", "text": "only reason that you would add someone"}, {"start": "00:43:43", "end": "00:43:48", "text": "as a coowwriter to a song who hadn't"}, {"start": "00:43:46", "end": "00:43:50", "text": "participated in the creation of that"}, {"start": "00:43:48", "end": "00:43:53", "text": "song is if you want to inflate the value"}, {"start": "00:43:50", "end": "00:43:54", "text": "of it and to make it more interesting to"}, {"start": "00:43:53", "end": "00:43:57", "text": "people who otherwise would have paid no"}, {"start": "00:43:54", "end": "00:43:59", "text": "attention to it. Because if this is just"}, {"start": "00:43:57", "end": "00:44:01", "text": "a song written by you, Natalie, or by"}, {"start": "00:43:59", "end": "00:44:04", "text": "me, Damian, it means nothing. But if we"}, {"start": "00:44:01", "end": "00:44:06", "text": "co-created it with Michael Jackson,"}, {"start": "00:44:04", "end": "00:44:08", "text": "that's interesting. And people will want"}, {"start": "00:44:06", "end": "00:44:14", "text": "to hear that. And so part of the master"}, {"start": "00:44:08", "end": "00:44:16", "text": "plan was to make these worthless songs"}, {"start": "00:44:14", "end": "00:44:16", "text": "actually worth something."}, {"start": "00:44:16", "end": "00:44:18", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:44:16", "end": "00:44:20", "text": ">> So that was 2 days after he died. They"}, {"start": "00:44:18", "end": "00:44:22", "text": "started down that path."}, {"start": "00:44:20", "end": "00:44:25", "text": ">> I mean, I think about So I have this"}, {"start": "00:44:22", "end": "00:44:28", "text": "obsession with the film This Is It. And"}, {"start": "00:44:25", "end": "00:44:30", "text": "I think about all of these dancers"}, {"start": "00:44:28", "end": "00:44:33", "text": "who were crying at the beginning of this"}, {"start": "00:44:30", "end": "00:44:37", "text": "film. Is my life dream to dance with"}, {"start": "00:44:33", "end": "00:44:40", "text": "Michael? They're amazing. Amazing. And"}, {"start": "00:44:37", "end": "00:44:42", "text": "their dream died with him. And that was"}, {"start": "00:44:40", "end": "00:44:45", "text": "it. There was nothing they can do. There"}, {"start": "00:44:42", "end": "00:44:48", "text": "was just, you know, and then there's the"}, {"start": "00:44:45", "end": "00:44:51", "text": "Casios who are like, \"Oh, no. I will get"}, {"start": "00:44:48", "end": "00:44:54", "text": "this done. My my song will I will make"}, {"start": "00:44:51", "end": "00:44:57", "text": "this money. I will have this producer"}, {"start": "00:44:54", "end": "00:44:59", "text": "credit.\" And it's so distasteful."}, {"start": "00:44:57", "end": "00:45:00", "text": "And what I was wondering as I was"}, {"start": "00:44:59", "end": "00:45:03", "text": "listening to your podcast, having not"}, {"start": "00:45:00", "end": "00:45:05", "text": "read the legal documents, nowhere in"}, {"start": "00:45:03", "end": "00:45:07", "text": "here in in your story is the Casio's"}, {"start": "00:45:05", "end": "00:45:10", "text": "defense. Is it because they didn't have"}, {"start": "00:45:07", "end": "00:45:12", "text": "to make one? They let Sony make the case"}, {"start": "00:45:10", "end": "00:45:14", "text": "that we're allowed to do this? They"}, {"start": "00:45:12", "end": "00:45:16", "text": "never said, \"Oh, we for sure it's"}, {"start": "00:45:14", "end": "00:45:18", "text": "Michael and we can prove it.\" Because"}, {"start": "00:45:16", "end": "00:45:21", "text": "you they destroyed evidence, which again"}, {"start": "00:45:18", "end": "00:45:22", "text": "is illegal. They deleted Gmails. They"}, {"start": "00:45:21", "end": "00:45:26", "text": "said all of the hard drives were"}, {"start": "00:45:22", "end": "00:45:29", "text": "deleted. They So, did they ever try to"}, {"start": "00:45:26", "end": "00:45:31", "text": "make a legal defense for themselves?"}, {"start": "00:45:29", "end": "00:45:33", "text": ">> They weren't legally required to. It"}, {"start": "00:45:31", "end": "00:45:35", "text": "didn't get to the stage where the fraud"}, {"start": "00:45:33", "end": "00:45:37", "text": "component of the lawsuit was even"}, {"start": "00:45:35", "end": "00:45:40", "text": "answerable to and that's thanks to the"}, {"start": "00:45:37", "end": "00:45:42", "text": "extraordinary delays that the estate and"}, {"start": "00:45:40", "end": "00:45:44", "text": "Sony managed to pull for their side of"}, {"start": "00:45:42", "end": "00:45:45", "text": "the lawsuit cuz as I explained earlier,"}, {"start": "00:45:44", "end": "00:45:48", "text": "there was the two components. There was"}, {"start": "00:45:45", "end": "00:45:50", "text": "the consumer mis misuse like misleading"}, {"start": "00:45:48", "end": "00:45:52", "text": "the consumers and then there was the"}, {"start": "00:45:50", "end": "00:45:54", "text": "fraud. So Sony and the estate on one"}, {"start": "00:45:52", "end": "00:45:57", "text": "side and then the Casios on the other"}, {"start": "00:45:54", "end": "00:45:58", "text": "side and they were sued together. So the"}, {"start": "00:45:57", "end": "00:46:02", "text": "the lawsuit would actually need to be"}, {"start": "00:45:58", "end": "00:46:03", "text": "heard in a court of law together, but"}, {"start": "00:46:02", "end": "00:46:04", "text": "there were two separate components that"}, {"start": "00:46:03", "end": "00:46:06", "text": "needed to be answered to and because the"}, {"start": "00:46:04", "end": "00:46:08", "text": "estate and Sony dragged their side out"}, {"start": "00:46:06", "end": "00:46:11", "text": "for so long. Casio and Port never"}, {"start": "00:46:08", "end": "00:46:14", "text": "actually were answerable to anything."}, {"start": "00:46:11", "end": "00:46:16", "text": "And in the end, the settlement included"}, {"start": "00:46:14", "end": "00:46:19", "text": "Casio and Port as having the lawsuit"}, {"start": "00:46:16", "end": "00:46:21", "text": "being settled against all parties once"}, {"start": "00:46:19", "end": "00:46:24", "text": "the songs were removed."}, {"start": "00:46:21", "end": "00:46:27", "text": "The the plaintiff Verus Arova agreed to"}, {"start": "00:46:24", "end": "00:46:28", "text": "relieve everybody of their of their"}, {"start": "00:46:27", "end": "00:46:30", "text": "lawsuit. Just I mean it was just the the"}, {"start": "00:46:28", "end": "00:46:32", "text": "right thing to do to get it over to get"}, {"start": "00:46:30", "end": "00:46:34", "text": "the songs down, which was the main the"}, {"start": "00:46:32", "end": "00:46:37", "text": "main goal of the lawsuit from from day"}, {"start": "00:46:34", "end": "00:46:40", "text": "one. And um she had achieved that and so"}, {"start": "00:46:37", "end": "00:46:44", "text": "therefore call it a day. And yeah, they"}, {"start": "00:46:40", "end": "00:46:47", "text": "were they got off scot-free. Um, which"}, {"start": "00:46:44", "end": "00:46:49", "text": "is insane, but it's what happened."}, {"start": "00:46:47", "end": "00:46:53", "text": ">> Yeah. I mean, they were just lucky to"}, {"start": "00:46:49", "end": "00:46:56", "text": "have deep pocketed codefendants and so"}, {"start": "00:46:53", "end": "00:46:59", "text": "they could just sit with full confidence"}, {"start": "00:46:56", "end": "00:47:01", "text": "and they they got away with it."}, {"start": "00:46:59", "end": "00:47:03", "text": ">> And so the answer of is it Michael"}, {"start": "00:47:01", "end": "00:47:05", "text": "Jackson was never even addressed in"}, {"start": "00:47:03", "end": "00:47:08", "text": "court. It was never it was never a"}, {"start": "00:47:05", "end": "00:47:10", "text": "subject of any hearing or any debate."}, {"start": "00:47:08", "end": "00:47:12", "text": "There was some hypotheticals like well"}, {"start": "00:47:10", "end": "00:47:14", "text": "the estate at one point decided to say"}, {"start": "00:47:12", "end": "00:47:16", "text": "for the purposes of their legal argument"}, {"start": "00:47:14", "end": "00:47:18", "text": "we're going to just concede that it's"}, {"start": "00:47:16", "end": "00:47:20", "text": "not him because we can still prevail on"}, {"start": "00:47:18", "end": "00:47:23", "text": "our legal arguments and our defense of"}, {"start": "00:47:20", "end": "00:47:24", "text": "ourselves and our involvement in this"}, {"start": "00:47:23", "end": "00:47:27", "text": "with even if it is not him even this"}, {"start": "00:47:24", "end": "00:47:30", "text": "even if these songs are fake as you"}, {"start": "00:47:27", "end": "00:47:31", "text": "claim we've done nothing wrong and"}, {"start": "00:47:30", "end": "00:47:32", "text": "that's the argument that they took to"}, {"start": "00:47:31", "end": "00:47:34", "text": "the Supreme Court and that's the"}, {"start": "00:47:32", "end": "00:47:37", "text": "argument that got knocked back by the"}, {"start": "00:47:34", "end": "00:47:39", "text": "Supreme Court who said actually if the"}, {"start": "00:47:37", "end": "00:47:41", "text": "songs are fake regardless of whether you"}, {"start": "00:47:39", "end": "00:47:43", "text": "knew because it was your duty to know"}, {"start": "00:47:41", "end": "00:47:45", "text": "because you sold it to people and said"}, {"start": "00:47:43", "end": "00:47:49", "text": "it was real then you do have to face the"}, {"start": "00:47:45", "end": "00:47:53", "text": "music and so that all dragged on for 8"}, {"start": "00:47:49", "end": "00:47:55", "text": "years was crazy. Now, we now know, and I"}, {"start": "00:47:53", "end": "00:47:57", "text": "don't think you knew this, you you said"}, {"start": "00:47:55", "end": "00:48:00", "text": "you heard a rumbling of it while you"}, {"start": "00:47:57", "end": "00:48:01", "text": "were making the podcast, but now we know"}, {"start": "00:48:00", "end": "00:48:03", "text": "based on the New York Times reporting"}, {"start": "00:48:01", "end": "00:48:06", "text": "that while this case was being"}, {"start": "00:48:03", "end": "00:48:08", "text": "litigated, the Casios were going to the"}, {"start": "00:48:06", "end": "00:48:11", "text": "Michael Jackson estate and saying,"}, {"start": "00:48:08", "end": "00:48:14", "text": "\"We're going to claim sexual harassment"}, {"start": "00:48:11", "end": "00:48:17", "text": "by Michael Jackson. We would like a"}, {"start": "00:48:14", "end": "00:48:20", "text": "settlement.\" And they got it. And that"}, {"start": "00:48:17", "end": "00:48:22", "text": "settlement gave them"}, {"start": "00:48:20", "end": "00:48:25", "text": "a lot of money every year for 5 years"}, {"start": "00:48:22", "end": "00:48:28", "text": "until 2025. And in 2025, those payments"}, {"start": "00:48:25", "end": "00:48:31", "text": "stopped. And now they're going back to"}, {"start": "00:48:28", "end": "00:48:33", "text": "the media and saying, \"We were sexually"}, {"start": "00:48:31", "end": "00:48:36", "text": "abused. We want more money from the"}, {"start": "00:48:33", "end": "00:48:38", "text": "Michael Jackson case estate.\" So without"}, {"start": "00:48:36", "end": "00:48:41", "text": "evaluating the merits of their claim,"}, {"start": "00:48:38", "end": "00:48:44", "text": "let's talk about how this could have"}, {"start": "00:48:41", "end": "00:48:48", "text": "been happening at the same time because"}, {"start": "00:48:44", "end": "00:48:51", "text": "the estate is co-defending is defending"}, {"start": "00:48:48", "end": "00:48:54", "text": "them in court and they are at the same"}, {"start": "00:48:51", "end": "00:48:56", "text": "time going to the estate and asking for"}, {"start": "00:48:54", "end": "00:48:59", "text": "a settlement for sexual harassment. Can"}, {"start": "00:48:56", "end": "00:49:01", "text": "you make heads or tails of that?"}, {"start": "00:48:59", "end": "00:49:04", "text": ">> I can't literally I have nothing to add"}, {"start": "00:49:01", "end": "00:49:04", "text": "to that. There's uh it just boggles the"}, {"start": "00:49:04", "end": "00:49:05", "text": "mind that"}, {"start": "00:49:04", "end": "00:49:07", "text": ">> yes"}, {"start": "00:49:05", "end": "00:49:09", "text": ">> while while the estate attorneys are"}, {"start": "00:49:07", "end": "00:49:12", "text": "showing up to court and arguing in"}, {"start": "00:49:09", "end": "00:49:15", "text": "defense of these fake songs, they are"}, {"start": "00:49:12", "end": "00:49:18", "text": "also behind the scenes"}, {"start": "00:49:15", "end": "00:49:23", "text": "appeasing their demands for millions of"}, {"start": "00:49:18", "end": "00:49:25", "text": "dollars uh in in in the other case. So"}, {"start": "00:49:23", "end": "00:49:26", "text": "it's it's it is quite astonishing that"}, {"start": "00:49:25", "end": "00:49:29", "text": "that would happen, but I have no"}, {"start": "00:49:26", "end": "00:49:32", "text": "explanation as to what their mindset"}, {"start": "00:49:29", "end": "00:49:33", "text": "was. Um maybe perhaps as with many"}, {"start": "00:49:32", "end": "00:49:37", "text": "things that the Michael Jackson estate"}, {"start": "00:49:33", "end": "00:49:39", "text": "do, they just simply weren't thinking or"}, {"start": "00:49:37", "end": "00:49:41", "text": "I have no idea."}, {"start": "00:49:39", "end": "00:49:44", "text": ">> Right. And so if we place this in the"}, {"start": "00:49:41", "end": "00:49:47", "text": "broader context, 2019 is when the"}, {"start": "00:49:44", "end": "00:49:50", "text": "Leaving Neverland documentary comes out."}, {"start": "00:49:47", "end": "00:49:53", "text": "Um it's making stars of the Robinson and"}, {"start": "00:49:50", "end": "00:49:56", "text": "Safechuck characters."}, {"start": "00:49:53", "end": "00:49:57", "text": "They too are still litigating against"}, {"start": "00:49:56", "end": "00:50:01", "text": "the estate."}, {"start": "00:49:57", "end": "00:50:05", "text": "So, the timing would suggest that the"}, {"start": "00:50:01", "end": "00:50:08", "text": "Casios could, you know, jump on the"}, {"start": "00:50:05", "end": "00:50:12", "text": "enthusiasm for that and become #meto."}, {"start": "00:50:08", "end": "00:50:14", "text": "Um, but at the same time, the estate is"}, {"start": "00:50:12", "end": "00:50:17", "text": "is fighting the cases against Robson and"}, {"start": "00:50:14", "end": "00:50:17", "text": "Savechuk. I mean, what a mess. You know,"}, {"start": "00:50:17", "end": "00:50:18", "text": "it"}, {"start": "00:50:17", "end": "00:50:19", "text": ">> a mess."}, {"start": "00:50:18", "end": "00:50:20", "text": ">> What a mess."}, {"start": "00:50:19", "end": "00:50:22", "text": ">> Of all the people who could have come"}, {"start": "00:50:20", "end": "00:50:24", "text": "forward with these allegations,"}, {"start": "00:50:22", "end": "00:50:27", "text": ">> right? Surely you would think the people"}, {"start": "00:50:24", "end": "00:50:30", "text": "that previously defrauded you 10 years"}, {"start": "00:50:27", "end": "00:50:33", "text": "prior with the biggest fraud in the"}, {"start": "00:50:30", "end": "00:50:36", "text": "history of the music business with"}, {"start": "00:50:33", "end": "00:50:38", "text": "Michael Jackson as the victim of the"}, {"start": "00:50:36", "end": "00:50:41", "text": "actual forgery and Michael Jackson's"}, {"start": "00:50:38", "end": "00:50:44", "text": "estate the target the financial target"}, {"start": "00:50:41", "end": "00:50:48", "text": "to basically rackateeer them falsely"}, {"start": "00:50:44", "end": "00:50:50", "text": "represent a product and engage in an un"}, {"start": "00:50:48", "end": "00:50:54", "text": "true business transaction for false"}, {"start": "00:50:50", "end": "00:50:56", "text": "false product. Um, you would think that"}, {"start": "00:50:54", "end": "00:50:59", "text": "if somebody who had done that to you in"}, {"start": "00:50:56", "end": "00:51:00", "text": "the past, even if you want to let them"}, {"start": "00:50:59", "end": "00:51:02", "text": "off the hook for it and defend them for"}, {"start": "00:51:00", "end": "00:51:05", "text": "the songs or whatever, if they then"}, {"start": "00:51:02", "end": "00:51:06", "text": "decide to come back and say, and now we"}, {"start": "00:51:05", "end": "00:51:08", "text": "want millions of dollars more and this"}, {"start": "00:51:06", "end": "00:51:11", "text": "is our other thing. Then they would say,"}, {"start": "00:51:08", "end": "00:51:12", "text": "hang on a second, you sold us fake"}, {"start": "00:51:11", "end": "00:51:13", "text": "songs."}, {"start": "00:51:12", "end": "00:51:15", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:51:13", "end": "00:51:17", "text": ">> you sold us fake, you can't just keep"}, {"start": "00:51:15", "end": "00:51:19", "text": "squeezing us for more money for this way"}, {"start": "00:51:17", "end": "00:51:22", "text": "and for that way. You sold us fake"}, {"start": "00:51:19", "end": "00:51:25", "text": "songs. What are you thinking? No."}, {"start": "00:51:22", "end": "00:51:28", "text": "And for them to say yes and to pay, like"}, {"start": "00:51:25", "end": "00:51:30", "text": "why wouldn't you just say go for gold,"}, {"start": "00:51:28", "end": "00:51:32", "text": "we'll just remind the courts of what you"}, {"start": "00:51:30", "end": "00:51:34", "text": "did to us in 2010 with the fake songs,"}, {"start": "00:51:32", "end": "00:51:37", "text": "it's astonishing that they wouldn't have"}, {"start": "00:51:34", "end": "00:51:38", "text": "been able even in that moment. Forget"}, {"start": "00:51:37", "end": "00:51:40", "text": "about all the rest of the stuff when it"}, {"start": "00:51:38", "end": "00:51:42", "text": "was just a debate about whether it was"}, {"start": "00:51:40", "end": "00:51:43", "text": "Michael singing and, you know, whether"}, {"start": "00:51:42", "end": "00:51:45", "text": "it was right to release the album the"}, {"start": "00:51:43", "end": "00:51:47", "text": "way they released it and all that stuff."}, {"start": "00:51:45", "end": "00:51:51", "text": "Forget about that. Now, with this new"}, {"start": "00:51:47", "end": "00:51:52", "text": "thing coming through the door, um, you"}, {"start": "00:51:51", "end": "00:51:53", "text": "would think that they would do that. And"}, {"start": "00:51:52", "end": "00:51:57", "text": "I and I believe that when they allowed"}, {"start": "00:51:53", "end": "00:51:59", "text": "these fake songs to be released and they"}, {"start": "00:51:57", "end": "00:52:01", "text": "decided to defend them, that was the"}, {"start": "00:51:59", "end": "00:52:03", "text": "estate setting a precedent that you can"}, {"start": "00:52:01", "end": "00:52:05", "text": "walk through the door with a lie about"}, {"start": "00:52:03", "end": "00:52:08", "text": "Michael Jackson and your hand out for"}, {"start": "00:52:05", "end": "00:52:10", "text": "money and you'll be paid because that"}, {"start": "00:52:08", "end": "00:52:12", "text": "was preceding the Robson and Safechuck"}, {"start": "00:52:10", "end": "00:52:14", "text": "allegations, preceding the Casio"}, {"start": "00:52:12", "end": "00:52:16", "text": "allegations, preceding everything. We"}, {"start": "00:52:14", "end": "00:52:18", "text": "have the Casio tracks."}, {"start": "00:52:16", "end": "00:52:20", "text": ">> A lie about Michael Jackson. He recorded"}, {"start": "00:52:18", "end": "00:52:21", "text": "these songs. Well, no, he didn't. I'm"}, {"start": "00:52:20", "end": "00:52:23", "text": "coming through the door of the estate"}, {"start": "00:52:21", "end": "00:52:25", "text": "with my hand out and saying he recorded"}, {"start": "00:52:23", "end": "00:52:27", "text": "these songs. Put money in my hand. Take"}, {"start": "00:52:25", "end": "00:52:29", "text": "the songs."}, {"start": "00:52:27", "end": "00:52:30", "text": ">> By doing that, they they've really set a"}, {"start": "00:52:29", "end": "00:52:32", "text": "precedent that you can tell a lie about"}, {"start": "00:52:30", "end": "00:52:33", "text": "Michael Jackson with your hand out for"}, {"start": "00:52:32", "end": "00:52:36", "text": "money, and there's a good chance you're"}, {"start": "00:52:33", "end": "00:52:38", "text": "going to get paid."}, {"start": "00:52:36", "end": "00:52:40", "text": ">> It's a dangerous precedent to set."}, {"start": "00:52:38", "end": "00:52:42", "text": ">> Right. Well, in that case, I mean, I"}, {"start": "00:52:40", "end": "00:52:44", "text": "thought I was going to marry him. I was"}, {"start": "00:52:42", "end": "00:52:48", "text": "raised a Jehovah's Witness um as well"}, {"start": "00:52:44", "end": "00:52:50", "text": "and so I used to go to what we call"}, {"start": "00:52:48", "end": "00:52:51", "text": "district conventions and ask my mom if"}, {"start": "00:52:50", "end": "00:52:53", "text": "he would be there because Jehovah's"}, {"start": "00:52:51", "end": "00:52:57", "text": "Witnesses are only allowed to marry in"}, {"start": "00:52:53", "end": "00:52:59", "text": "the faith. So I was convinced that I was"}, {"start": "00:52:57", "end": "00:53:01", "text": "going to marry Michael Jackson. So I"}, {"start": "00:52:59", "end": "00:53:05", "text": "should let them know that I would like"}, {"start": "00:53:01", "end": "00:53:06", "text": "alimony in this case if that's what"}, {"start": "00:53:05", "end": "00:53:07", "text": "we're doing."}, {"start": "00:53:06", "end": "00:53:10", "text": ">> Um"}, {"start": "00:53:07", "end": "00:53:11", "text": ">> yeah, go for it. So,"}, {"start": "00:53:10", "end": "00:53:15", "text": "you know, the only thing I could think"}, {"start": "00:53:11", "end": "00:53:18", "text": "of is that possibly there's a federal"}, {"start": "00:53:15", "end": "00:53:22", "text": "investigation around this fraud and they"}, {"start": "00:53:18", "end": "00:53:23", "text": "are they are targets or suspects of the"}, {"start": "00:53:22", "end": "00:53:27", "text": "investigation and they would like to"}, {"start": "00:53:23", "end": "00:53:29", "text": "flip the script and be the victims"}, {"start": "00:53:27", "end": "00:53:32", "text": "instead of but we don't know if there"}, {"start": "00:53:29", "end": "00:53:33", "text": "was a federal investigation of this"}, {"start": "00:53:32", "end": "00:53:36", "text": "fraud. There very well could have been."}, {"start": "00:53:33", "end": "00:53:40", "text": "the law would have allowed the FBI to"}, {"start": "00:53:36", "end": "00:53:44", "text": "create one, but you don't know, right?"}, {"start": "00:53:40", "end": "00:53:47", "text": ">> Well, I spoke to the FBI. Um,"}, {"start": "00:53:44", "end": "00:53:50", "text": ">> and I'm not aware that they did anything"}, {"start": "00:53:47", "end": "00:53:51", "text": "with this. Like, there was, you know,"}, {"start": "00:53:50", "end": "00:53:53", "text": "all the evidence that's in the podcast,"}, {"start": "00:53:51", "end": "00:53:56", "text": "they're aware of it. We we worked on the"}, {"start": "00:53:53", "end": "00:53:58", "text": "podcast with a former FBI art crime"}, {"start": "00:53:56", "end": "00:54:01", "text": "investigator who was astonished about"}, {"start": "00:53:58", "end": "00:54:03", "text": "the level of evidence and detail in the"}, {"start": "00:54:01", "end": "00:54:06", "text": "podcast. He said that if he was trying"}, {"start": "00:54:03", "end": "00:54:08", "text": "this case as a federal art forgery case,"}, {"start": "00:54:06", "end": "00:54:10", "text": "he said he he probably would be not even"}, {"start": "00:54:08", "end": "00:54:11", "text": "have to have a trial. He'd probably be"}, {"start": "00:54:10", "end": "00:54:12", "text": "able to present the evidence and say,"}, {"start": "00:54:11", "end": "00:54:15", "text": "\"Look, there's no point having a trial."}, {"start": "00:54:12", "end": "00:54:17", "text": "You you've got to go to jail and that's"}, {"start": "00:54:15", "end": "00:54:19", "text": "it. Like, let's just make a deal about"}, {"start": "00:54:17", "end": "00:54:22", "text": "how long that jail time is. Limit the"}, {"start": "00:54:19", "end": "00:54:24", "text": "jail time because you're obviously"}, {"start": "00:54:22", "end": "00:54:27", "text": "guilty. There's no chance I can lose"}, {"start": "00:54:24", "end": "00:54:29", "text": "this if I try this federally.\" and um"}, {"start": "00:54:27", "end": "00:54:31", "text": "and yeah, but he he did pass that"}, {"start": "00:54:29", "end": "00:54:33", "text": "information on to people that he knows"}, {"start": "00:54:31", "end": "00:54:35", "text": "at the FBI. So like they're aware of the"}, {"start": "00:54:33", "end": "00:54:37", "text": "case. The FBI knows about this, but when"}, {"start": "00:54:35", "end": "00:54:40", "text": "your when your primary victim is the"}, {"start": "00:54:37", "end": "00:54:42", "text": "estate and they don't want any part in"}, {"start": "00:54:40", "end": "00:54:44", "text": "an investigation of whether this is"}, {"start": "00:54:42", "end": "00:54:46", "text": "Michael Jackson or not, I think it's"}, {"start": "00:54:44", "end": "00:54:48", "text": "dead in the water. Like there's, you"}, {"start": "00:54:46", "end": "00:54:50", "text": "know, if they are the victims and they"}, {"start": "00:54:48", "end": "00:54:52", "text": "don't want you to look into it, then"}, {"start": "00:54:50", "end": "00:54:53", "text": "what's the point? You know, who are you"}, {"start": "00:54:52", "end": "00:54:55", "text": "fighting on behalf of? You're fighting"}, {"start": "00:54:53", "end": "00:54:58", "text": "on behalf of the people, but"}, {"start": "00:54:55", "end": "00:55:00", "text": ">> well, yes, the victims were also the"}, {"start": "00:54:58", "end": "00:55:01", "text": "fans, as you make the"}, {"start": "00:55:00", "end": "00:55:04", "text": ">> people that bought the album, but they"}, {"start": "00:55:01", "end": "00:55:07", "text": "were only victims of of not of fraud, of"}, {"start": "00:55:04", "end": "00:55:11", "text": "of consumer fraud, which is not the same"}, {"start": "00:55:07", "end": "00:55:13", "text": "as like a a federal art forgery type of"}, {"start": "00:55:11", "end": "00:55:16", "text": "thing. Like the if you're if you defraud"}, {"start": "00:55:13", "end": "00:55:18", "text": "a consumer with a false product, the"}, {"start": "00:55:16", "end": "00:55:19", "text": "worst that can happen is is give them a"}, {"start": "00:55:18", "end": "00:55:22", "text": "refund or perhaps some kind of financial"}, {"start": "00:55:19", "end": "00:55:25", "text": "penalty. But if you actually commit like"}, {"start": "00:55:22", "end": "00:55:27", "text": "an art forgery fraud, then there is jail"}, {"start": "00:55:25", "end": "00:55:29", "text": "time attached to that's a completely"}, {"start": "00:55:27", "end": "00:55:30", "text": "different thing. And I think because the"}, {"start": "00:55:29", "end": "00:55:32", "text": "estate and Sony was never going to be in"}, {"start": "00:55:30", "end": "00:55:34", "text": "any serious trouble for, you know, other"}, {"start": "00:55:32", "end": "00:55:36", "text": "than money for what they've done or"}, {"start": "00:55:34", "end": "00:55:39", "text": "their part of it. I just think they just"}, {"start": "00:55:36", "end": "00:55:41", "text": "wanted it to be over. Um and and again"}, {"start": "00:55:39", "end": "00:55:42", "text": "the humiliation factor of if they want"}, {"start": "00:55:41", "end": "00:55:44", "text": "to go down a federal investigation,"}, {"start": "00:55:42", "end": "00:55:46", "text": "they'll have to admit all of the"}, {"start": "00:55:44", "end": "00:55:49", "text": "humiliating things that they did along"}, {"start": "00:55:46", "end": "00:55:51", "text": "the way prior to coming to Jesus and"}, {"start": "00:55:49", "end": "00:55:53", "text": "saying, \"Okay, we are the victims of a"}, {"start": "00:55:51", "end": "00:55:57", "text": "fraud and we want to get justice here.\""}, {"start": "00:55:53", "end": "00:56:00", "text": "I just it just seems like a pride issue"}, {"start": "00:55:57", "end": "00:56:03", "text": "for them to never want to admit that"}, {"start": "00:56:00", "end": "00:56:06", "text": "it's not Michael. and and and in this"}, {"start": "00:56:03", "end": "00:56:08", "text": "landscape with these the family saying"}, {"start": "00:56:06", "end": "00:56:10", "text": "this now, what better chance is there"}, {"start": "00:56:08", "end": "00:56:12", "text": "for the estate to come and say, you know"}, {"start": "00:56:10", "end": "00:56:14", "text": "what, they can't be trusted because they"}, {"start": "00:56:12", "end": "00:56:17", "text": "did this to us in 2010. They're not if"}, {"start": "00:56:14", "end": "00:56:18", "text": "they're not willing to do it now, then"}, {"start": "00:56:17", "end": "00:56:19", "text": "they're probably never willing to do"}, {"start": "00:56:18", "end": "00:56:22", "text": "that."}, {"start": "00:56:19", "end": "00:56:24", "text": ">> Do you think they are?"}, {"start": "00:56:22", "end": "00:56:25", "text": "If this went to tri, if the Casio thing"}, {"start": "00:56:24", "end": "00:56:28", "text": "ended up in a courtroom, I think they'd"}, {"start": "00:56:25", "end": "00:56:30", "text": "be forced to use it as their best legal"}, {"start": "00:56:28", "end": "00:56:32", "text": "defense because it's it is their best"}, {"start": "00:56:30", "end": "00:56:34", "text": "legal defense, but they just probably"}, {"start": "00:56:32", "end": "00:56:37", "text": "don't want to. They might be forced to"}, {"start": "00:56:34", "end": "00:56:39", "text": "at some point, but if they can avoid"}, {"start": "00:56:37", "end": "00:56:44", "text": "doing it and avoid the humiliation of"}, {"start": "00:56:39", "end": "00:56:46", "text": "admitting what they've done, um, then"}, {"start": "00:56:44", "end": "00:56:49", "text": "maybe"}, {"start": "00:56:46", "end": "00:56:51", "text": "are not trying to litigate in the"}, {"start": "00:56:49", "end": "00:56:52", "text": "courts. They are trying to litigate in"}, {"start": "00:56:51", "end": "00:56:53", "text": "the court of public opinion. Oh, they"}, {"start": "00:56:52", "end": "00:56:54", "text": "are they"}, {"start": "00:56:53", "end": "00:56:56", "text": ">> Oh, they are."}, {"start": "00:56:54", "end": "00:56:58", "text": ">> So, there is"}, {"start": "00:56:56", "end": "00:57:01", "text": ">> Yeah, there are two separate lawsuits."}, {"start": "00:56:58", "end": "00:57:02", "text": "Um, one from Frank and then one from the"}, {"start": "00:57:01", "end": "00:57:07", "text": "other four siblings separately to each"}, {"start": "00:57:02", "end": "00:57:09", "text": "other. Um, and there's also the the"}, {"start": "00:57:07", "end": "00:57:11", "text": "Frank one I think is in private"}, {"start": "00:57:09", "end": "00:57:15", "text": "arbitration and I think the estate have"}, {"start": "00:57:11", "end": "00:57:16", "text": "actually sued him with extortion or I"}, {"start": "00:57:15", "end": "00:57:18", "text": "don't if sued is the right word but"}, {"start": "00:57:16", "end": "00:57:20", "text": "filed"}, {"start": "00:57:18", "end": "00:57:22", "text": "extortion"}, {"start": "00:57:20", "end": "00:57:23", "text": ">> accusations or motions or claims against"}, {"start": "00:57:22", "end": "00:57:25", "text": "them in court"}, {"start": "00:57:23", "end": "00:57:28", "text": ">> or or in private arbitration or wherever"}, {"start": "00:57:25", "end": "00:57:31", "text": "they file those things. Um, so yeah, but"}, {"start": "00:57:28", "end": "00:57:33", "text": "the the Casios they believe they are"}, {"start": "00:57:31", "end": "00:57:35", "text": "filing a lawsuit ex they're accusing him"}, {"start": "00:57:33", "end": "00:57:39", "text": "of all kinds of crazy things,"}, {"start": "00:57:35", "end": "00:57:39", "text": ">> right? Yes. We want to use and and all"}, {"start": "00:57:39", "end": "00:57:41", "text": "of that,"}, {"start": "00:57:39", "end": "00:57:43", "text": ">> but no, like like Yeah. The specific"}, {"start": "00:57:41", "end": "00:57:46", "text": "terminology of what they're saying in"}, {"start": "00:57:43", "end": "00:57:46", "text": "their court papers is is quite extreme."}, {"start": "00:57:46", "end": "00:57:48", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:57:46", "end": "00:57:50", "text": ">> Accusing of being of running like a the"}, {"start": "00:57:48", "end": "00:57:52", "text": "world's most sophisticated sex"}, {"start": "00:57:50", "end": "00:57:55", "text": "trafficking operation."}, {"start": "00:57:52", "end": "00:57:58", "text": ">> Right. That's that's the language of"}, {"start": "00:57:55", "end": "00:58:01", "text": "Robson and Safechuck as well. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:57:58", "end": "00:58:04", "text": ">> Um and so the claims have only become"}, {"start": "00:58:01", "end": "00:58:05", "text": "more extreme and I don't want to be"}, {"start": "00:58:04", "end": "00:58:07", "text": "distracted by that because we could be"}, {"start": "00:58:05", "end": "00:58:08", "text": "here a whole other hour when we can talk"}, {"start": "00:58:07", "end": "00:58:10", "text": "about the credibility issues of the"}, {"start": "00:58:08", "end": "00:58:13", "text": "people who have claimed sexual assault"}, {"start": "00:58:10", "end": "00:58:15", "text": "from Michael Jackson. But"}, {"start": "00:58:13", "end": "00:58:18", "text": "what are they thinking bringing this to"}, {"start": "00:58:15", "end": "00:58:21", "text": "court then? because their credibility"}, {"start": "00:58:18", "end": "00:58:24", "text": "will in fact be relevant and what they"}, {"start": "00:58:21", "end": "00:58:25", "text": "have already done to the estate."}, {"start": "00:58:24", "end": "00:58:27", "text": ">> Well, they might be so confident that it"}, {"start": "00:58:25", "end": "00:58:30", "text": "won't. I mean, they did an interview"}, {"start": "00:58:27", "end": "00:58:33", "text": "with 60 Minutes Australia, which was a"}, {"start": "00:58:30", "end": "00:58:35", "text": "54-minute mega production in which the"}, {"start": "00:58:33", "end": "00:58:38", "text": "journalist, the Australian journalist"}, {"start": "00:58:35", "end": "00:58:41", "text": "Tara Brown, gives this big spoken intro"}, {"start": "00:58:38", "end": "00:58:43", "text": "to this presentation where she takes aim"}, {"start": "00:58:41", "end": "00:58:45", "text": "at the Michael Jackson movie for having"}, {"start": "00:58:43", "end": "00:58:47", "text": "these glaring omissions. And obviously"}, {"start": "00:58:45", "end": "00:58:50", "text": "the glaring omissions are that Michael"}, {"start": "00:58:47", "end": "00:58:52", "text": "Jackson was accused of heinous things in"}, {"start": "00:58:50", "end": "00:58:55", "text": "his life and after his death and that"}, {"start": "00:58:52", "end": "00:58:57", "text": "she's framing this interview as this"}, {"start": "00:58:55", "end": "00:58:59", "text": "movie omits these things."}, {"start": "00:58:57", "end": "00:59:01", "text": ">> So here we are. We're going to we're"}, {"start": "00:58:59", "end": "00:59:03", "text": "going to tell you who he really was and"}, {"start": "00:59:01", "end": "00:59:04", "text": "all of the allegations that this family"}, {"start": "00:59:03", "end": "00:59:06", "text": "is going to make against him. That's how"}, {"start": "00:59:04", "end": "00:59:09", "text": "she frames her interview. And then she"}, {"start": "00:59:06", "end": "00:59:11", "text": "goes on to give a 54-minute presentation"}, {"start": "00:59:09", "end": "00:59:12", "text": "with a family who have committed the"}, {"start": "00:59:11", "end": "00:59:15", "text": "biggest art art fraud in the history of"}, {"start": "00:59:12", "end": "00:59:18", "text": "the music business and doesn't think it"}, {"start": "00:59:15", "end": "00:59:20", "text": "relevant to mention it. So if we're"}, {"start": "00:59:18", "end": "00:59:22", "text": "talking about glaring omissions and I"}, {"start": "00:59:20", "end": "00:59:24", "text": "mean Tara Brown is one of the most"}, {"start": "00:59:22", "end": "00:59:27", "text": "esteemed and celebrated Australian"}, {"start": "00:59:24", "end": "00:59:30", "text": "journalists ever. She's been working for"}, {"start": "00:59:27", "end": "00:59:32", "text": "60 minutes for 25 years. She's been an"}, {"start": "00:59:30", "end": "00:59:35", "text": "investigative reporter for over 30"}, {"start": "00:59:32", "end": "00:59:38", "text": "years. She's won Walkley awards which"}, {"start": "00:59:35", "end": "00:59:40", "text": "are awards where she was rewarded for"}, {"start": "00:59:38", "end": "00:59:42", "text": "genuinely good investigative work. And"}, {"start": "00:59:40", "end": "00:59:44", "text": "I'm not saying that the awards that she"}, {"start": "00:59:42", "end": "00:59:47", "text": "won she didn't deserve to win because"}, {"start": "00:59:44", "end": "00:59:49", "text": "she has done amazing work in the past."}, {"start": "00:59:47", "end": "00:59:52", "text": "But for someone of that level of stature"}, {"start": "00:59:49", "end": "00:59:55", "text": "who is a life journalist, investigative"}, {"start": "00:59:52", "end": "00:59:57", "text": "journalist, not just a reporter, but she"}, {"start": "00:59:55", "end": "01:00:00", "text": "actually goes in and digs in and finds"}, {"start": "00:59:57", "end": "01:00:02", "text": "out what's true. in this case to have a"}, {"start": "01:00:00", "end": "01:00:04", "text": "family who has such a big credibility"}, {"start": "01:00:02", "end": "01:00:07", "text": "issue that was literally in the"}, {"start": "01:00:04", "end": "01:00:09", "text": "California Supreme Court that involved a"}, {"start": "01:00:07", "end": "01:00:12", "text": "fraud charge"}, {"start": "01:00:09", "end": "01:00:15", "text": "to not even mention it, then perhaps the"}, {"start": "01:00:12", "end": "01:00:16", "text": "Casios do feel empowered that well if"}, {"start": "01:00:15", "end": "01:00:18", "text": "she doesn't even mention it, no one's"}, {"start": "01:00:16", "end": "01:00:20", "text": "going to mention it. Like people don't"}, {"start": "01:00:18", "end": "01:00:23", "text": "know about this case. people don't know"}, {"start": "01:00:20", "end": "01:00:25", "text": "about the fake songs and that is the"}, {"start": "01:00:23", "end": "01:00:27", "text": "thing that continues to allow them to"}, {"start": "01:00:25", "end": "01:00:29", "text": "get away with all of the media"}, {"start": "01:00:27", "end": "01:00:31", "text": "publicity, all of the the stuff that"}, {"start": "01:00:29", "end": "01:00:32", "text": "they're doing is because people don't"}, {"start": "01:00:31", "end": "01:00:34", "text": "know that they did this."}, {"start": "01:00:32", "end": "01:00:37", "text": ">> They have no idea that there is this"}, {"start": "01:00:34", "end": "01:00:40", "text": "credibility issue with this family."}, {"start": "01:00:37", "end": "01:00:42", "text": ">> Um and so my perspective coming into"}, {"start": "01:00:40", "end": "01:00:45", "text": "into doing the podcast and then doing"}, {"start": "01:00:42", "end": "01:00:47", "text": "this interview with you is that okay, 60"}, {"start": "01:00:45", "end": "01:00:50", "text": "Minutes wants to present this version of"}, {"start": "01:00:47", "end": "01:00:52", "text": "events to their viewers. um but they"}, {"start": "01:00:50", "end": "01:00:54", "text": "don't want to mention this. So, let's"}, {"start": "01:00:52", "end": "01:00:57", "text": "just give viewers the other side. We"}, {"start": "01:00:54", "end": "01:00:58", "text": "don't have to wave a flag and say he was"}, {"start": "01:00:57", "end": "01:01:00", "text": "innocent or he was guilty or take any"}, {"start": "01:00:58", "end": "01:01:02", "text": "position on the actual allegations"}, {"start": "01:01:00", "end": "01:01:04", "text": "themselves. All we're doing here is"}, {"start": "01:01:02", "end": "01:01:07", "text": "saying, \"Look, there is another side to"}, {"start": "01:01:04", "end": "01:01:09", "text": "the story that you haven't been told."}, {"start": "01:01:07", "end": "01:01:11", "text": "This is that other side. Now that you"}, {"start": "01:01:09", "end": "01:01:13", "text": "have both sides, you can decide if you"}, {"start": "01:01:11", "end": "01:01:16", "text": "think that these family is credible or"}, {"start": "01:01:13", "end": "01:01:18", "text": "not.\" Um, and 60 Minutes didn't give"}, {"start": "01:01:16", "end": "01:01:21", "text": "Michael Jackson or his estate the"}, {"start": "01:01:18", "end": "01:01:24", "text": "fairness and the balance of actually"}, {"start": "01:01:21", "end": "01:01:27", "text": "mentioning that. And I can't imagine"}, {"start": "01:01:24", "end": "01:01:30", "text": "it's because she didn't know. But if she"}, {"start": "01:01:27", "end": "01:01:32", "text": "genuinely didn't know, then maybe her"}, {"start": "01:01:30", "end": "01:01:34", "text": "journalistic uh standards have slipped"}, {"start": "01:01:32", "end": "01:01:36", "text": "or her journalistic skills have slipped"}, {"start": "01:01:34", "end": "01:01:38", "text": "because I don't know how if you don't do"}, {"start": "01:01:36", "end": "01:01:41", "text": "a basic Google search about the Casio"}, {"start": "01:01:38", "end": "01:01:44", "text": "family that you couldn't stumble upon"}, {"start": "01:01:41", "end": "01:01:47", "text": "the fake songs, right? Sorry."}, {"start": "01:01:44", "end": "01:01:50", "text": ">> Well, what we can say is this. We know"}, {"start": "01:01:47", "end": "01:01:53", "text": "that this family has been graverobing"}, {"start": "01:01:50", "end": "01:01:55", "text": "Michael Jackson for over a decade,"}, {"start": "01:01:53", "end": "01:01:59", "text": "selling his dirty underwear, selling"}, {"start": "01:01:55", "end": "01:02:02", "text": "fake songs. So, they are already proven"}, {"start": "01:01:59", "end": "01:02:05", "text": "to have done that. So, is it not within"}, {"start": "01:02:02", "end": "01:02:07", "text": "the realm of possibility that they are"}, {"start": "01:02:05", "end": "01:02:11", "text": "continuing to do so? That's the relevant"}, {"start": "01:02:07", "end": "01:02:14", "text": "question. and that they might see stars"}, {"start": "01:02:11", "end": "01:02:16", "text": "in their eyes because the Michael biopic"}, {"start": "01:02:14", "end": "01:02:19", "text": "is doing so well breaking records left"}, {"start": "01:02:16", "end": "01:02:22", "text": "and right still number one a month into"}, {"start": "01:02:19", "end": "01:02:25", "text": "its theatrical release and they might"}, {"start": "01:02:22", "end": "01:02:28", "text": "say we deserve to continue to profit"}, {"start": "01:02:25", "end": "01:02:29", "text": "from this personal relationship that may"}, {"start": "01:02:28", "end": "01:02:30", "text": "be how they are I mean how can we know"}, {"start": "01:02:29", "end": "01:02:32", "text": "how they're rational"}, {"start": "01:02:30", "end": "01:02:35", "text": ">> well we we do know actually because they"}, {"start": "01:02:32", "end": "01:02:38", "text": "actually postured their so so what"}, {"start": "01:02:35", "end": "01:02:40", "text": "happened was in 2019 they asked for a"}, {"start": "01:02:38", "end": "01:02:43", "text": "settlement. The settlement across the"}, {"start": "01:02:40", "end": "01:02:45", "text": "family members divided up all total up"}, {"start": "01:02:43", "end": "01:02:46", "text": "to $20 million over 5 years. It was $20"}, {"start": "01:02:45", "end": "01:02:47", "text": "million settlement."}, {"start": "01:02:46", "end": "01:02:49", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "01:02:47", "end": "01:02:52", "text": ">> That the estate paid them."}, {"start": "01:02:49", "end": "01:02:53", "text": ">> When the estate made a move to sell"}, {"start": "01:02:52", "end": "01:02:57", "text": "Michael Jackson, 50% of Michael"}, {"start": "01:02:53", "end": "01:03:00", "text": "Jackson's music catalog for 60 $600"}, {"start": "01:02:57", "end": "01:03:02", "text": "million to Sony, they came back and"}, {"start": "01:03:00", "end": "01:03:03", "text": "said, \"We don't think we've been paid"}, {"start": "01:03:02", "end": "01:03:06", "text": "enough. You're about to make $600"}, {"start": "01:03:03", "end": "01:03:07", "text": "million from selling his catalog. We"}, {"start": "01:03:06", "end": "01:03:09", "text": "want more.\" They demanded"}, {"start": "01:03:07", "end": "01:03:10", "text": ">> nothing to do with them. They just"}, {"start": "01:03:09", "end": "01:03:12", "text": ">> they demanded"}, {"start": "01:03:10", "end": "01:03:14", "text": ">> you're coming into money. We're a victim"}, {"start": "01:03:12", "end": "01:03:16", "text": "of him or we claim we are. Uh we deserve"}, {"start": "01:03:14", "end": "01:03:21", "text": "a piece of that pie. And so they"}, {"start": "01:03:16", "end": "01:03:23", "text": "actually requested an extra $213 million"}, {"start": "01:03:21", "end": "01:03:26", "text": "on top of the 20 million that they had"}, {"start": "01:03:23", "end": "01:03:29", "text": "already been paid. They demanded"}, {"start": "01:03:26", "end": "01:03:31", "text": "$213 million more. And that was that was"}, {"start": "01:03:29", "end": "01:03:33", "text": "the point at which the estate decided to"}, {"start": "01:03:31", "end": "01:03:35", "text": "go down the avenue of saying we're being"}, {"start": "01:03:33", "end": "01:03:38", "text": "extorted because that was like hang on a"}, {"start": "01:03:35", "end": "01:03:41", "text": "second. We we made a deal with you based"}, {"start": "01:03:38", "end": "01:03:44", "text": "on your claims previously that satisfied"}, {"start": "01:03:41", "end": "01:03:46", "text": "you and satisfied us and resolved the"}, {"start": "01:03:44", "end": "01:03:48", "text": "issue. Now you're coming back for more"}, {"start": "01:03:46", "end": "01:03:49", "text": "money because we're coming into more"}, {"start": "01:03:48", "end": "01:03:51", "text": "money."}, {"start": "01:03:49", "end": "01:03:54", "text": "That's where they kind of put their foot"}, {"start": "01:03:51", "end": "01:03:56", "text": "down. John Branker did a couple of"}, {"start": "01:03:54", "end": "01:03:59", "text": "interviews, I guess. He leaked the fact"}, {"start": "01:03:56", "end": "01:04:02", "text": "that this was happening to the media. Um"}, {"start": "01:03:59", "end": "01:04:05", "text": "a lawsuit was drafted and then"}, {"start": "01:04:02", "end": "01:04:07", "text": "eventually I think filed. um and the"}, {"start": "01:04:05", "end": "01:04:09", "text": "money was never paid. And so now they're"}, {"start": "01:04:07", "end": "01:04:12", "text": "having this argument about like whether"}, {"start": "01:04:09", "end": "01:04:15", "text": "that money uh is is actually extortion"}, {"start": "01:04:12", "end": "01:04:16", "text": "or like that whole case is still"}, {"start": "01:04:15", "end": "01:04:16", "text": "unresolved."}, {"start": "01:04:16", "end": "01:04:18", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "01:04:16", "end": "01:04:20", "text": ">> Um but that they have proven that like"}, {"start": "01:04:18", "end": "01:04:22", "text": "when they do see more money come in that"}, {"start": "01:04:20", "end": "01:04:24", "text": "they think that they are deserving of"}, {"start": "01:04:22", "end": "01:04:26", "text": "more money and so"}, {"start": "01:04:24", "end": "01:04:27", "text": ">> you know the movie is is going to be a"}, {"start": "01:04:26", "end": "01:04:29", "text": "billion dollar movie. It's going to be"}, {"start": "01:04:27", "end": "01:04:32", "text": "the biggest most successful buyer pick"}, {"start": "01:04:29", "end": "01:04:34", "text": "in the history of the cinema. And so I"}, {"start": "01:04:32", "end": "01:04:36", "text": "mean the timing is you could say it's"}, {"start": "01:04:34", "end": "01:04:37", "text": "the Casios picking that timing or you"}, {"start": "01:04:36", "end": "01:04:40", "text": "could say it's 60 Minutes picking that"}, {"start": "01:04:37", "end": "01:04:41", "text": "timing because the movie is so big that"}, {"start": "01:04:40", "end": "01:04:43", "text": "it gives them this massive platform to"}, {"start": "01:04:41", "end": "01:04:45", "text": "talk about Michael Jackson and it's just"}, {"start": "01:04:43", "end": "01:04:46", "text": "a a great window through which to give"}, {"start": "01:04:45", "end": "01:04:49", "text": "this family a platform."}, {"start": "01:04:46", "end": "01:04:52", "text": ">> Um yeah, I mean these families don't"}, {"start": "01:04:49", "end": "01:04:55", "text": "always get to choose how and when they"}, {"start": "01:04:52", "end": "01:04:58", "text": "tell their stories. Um, that's obviously"}, {"start": "01:04:55", "end": "01:04:59", "text": "a big 60 minutes gets to choose how and"}, {"start": "01:04:58", "end": "01:05:01", "text": "when they tell it."}, {"start": "01:04:59", "end": "01:05:03", "text": ">> Um, so you can't say that it's"}, {"start": "01:05:01", "end": "01:05:05", "text": "completely orchestrated by the Casios as"}, {"start": "01:05:03", "end": "01:05:08", "text": "far as the timing goes, but it is"}, {"start": "01:05:05", "end": "01:05:09", "text": "certainly uh convenient timing for"}, {"start": "01:05:08", "end": "01:05:12", "text": "everybody."}, {"start": "01:05:09", "end": "01:05:14", "text": ">> Yeah, Michael Jackson, interestingly"}, {"start": "01:05:12", "end": "01:05:17", "text": "enough, tried actually to prove that"}, {"start": "01:05:14", "end": "01:05:20", "text": "Evan Chandler was extorting him by"}, {"start": "01:05:17", "end": "01:05:24", "text": "threatening claims of sexual abuse of"}, {"start": "01:05:20", "end": "01:05:26", "text": "his son. he had proof of it before he"}, {"start": "01:05:24", "end": "01:05:28", "text": "actually made the accusations of sexual"}, {"start": "01:05:26", "end": "01:05:31", "text": "assault. So, you know, when you think"}, {"start": "01:05:28", "end": "01:05:34", "text": "about when you're that big, and again,"}, {"start": "01:05:31", "end": "01:05:36", "text": "I'm not saying he didn't, but he clearly"}, {"start": "01:05:34", "end": "01:05:39", "text": "was trying to be extorted by Evan"}, {"start": "01:05:36", "end": "01:05:43", "text": "Chandler, when you're that big, you're"}, {"start": "01:05:39", "end": "01:05:45", "text": "going to have just the worst people"}, {"start": "01:05:43", "end": "01:05:49", "text": "coming out of the woodwork. And he"}, {"start": "01:05:45", "end": "01:05:54", "text": "clearly, you know,"}, {"start": "01:05:49", "end": "01:05:56", "text": "yeah, he he attracted a lot of narr"}, {"start": "01:05:54", "end": "01:05:59", "text": "if you really look into"}, {"start": "01:05:56", "end": "01:06:02", "text": ">> the history of, you know, the misfortune"}, {"start": "01:05:59", "end": "01:06:03", "text": "in his life. Um, I just want to circle"}, {"start": "01:06:02", "end": "01:06:06", "text": "back around one more time to this the"}, {"start": "01:06:03", "end": "01:06:09", "text": "fraud of the music, the actual music,"}, {"start": "01:06:06", "end": "01:06:12", "text": "because I was really riveted the way you"}, {"start": "01:06:09", "end": "01:06:15", "text": "had an expert break down the songs and"}, {"start": "01:06:12", "end": "01:06:18", "text": "teach me what the word vibrto meant and"}, {"start": "01:06:15", "end": "01:06:20", "text": "understand why it was so clear that"}, {"start": "01:06:18", "end": "01:06:22", "text": "these songs weren't Michael Jackson. And"}, {"start": "01:06:20", "end": "01:06:27", "text": "I just wonder if you think it would be"}, {"start": "01:06:22", "end": "01:06:29", "text": "harder to spot that now with AI."}, {"start": "01:06:27", "end": "01:06:33", "text": "It would be a catastrophe if this same"}, {"start": "01:06:29", "end": "01:06:35", "text": "type of thing happened today. AI is"}, {"start": "01:06:33", "end": "01:06:37", "text": "coming forward in leaps and bounds. It's"}, {"start": "01:06:35", "end": "01:06:38", "text": "becoming far more convincing. Every day"}, {"start": "01:06:37", "end": "01:06:41", "text": "there's an advancement with how"}, {"start": "01:06:38", "end": "01:06:44", "text": "convincing AI is. And I do think it"}, {"start": "01:06:41", "end": "01:06:48", "text": "would be very very difficult to spot a"}, {"start": "01:06:44", "end": "01:06:50", "text": "fake of any artist if it was done with"}, {"start": "01:06:48", "end": "01:06:52", "text": "the amount of energy and concern that"}, {"start": "01:06:50", "end": "01:06:55", "text": "these guys put into their fraud. These"}, {"start": "01:06:52", "end": "01:06:57", "text": "these people, they spent almost a year"}, {"start": "01:06:55", "end": "01:06:59", "text": "crafting these fake songs. If you spent"}, {"start": "01:06:57", "end": "01:07:01", "text": "almost a year doing it with all of the"}, {"start": "01:06:59", "end": "01:07:04", "text": "benefits of AI and and and the time and"}, {"start": "01:07:01", "end": "01:07:06", "text": "effort you can put into manipulating and"}, {"start": "01:07:04", "end": "01:07:07", "text": "editing and sculpting and crafting, it"}, {"start": "01:07:06", "end": "01:07:11", "text": "would be almost impossible these days to"}, {"start": "01:07:07", "end": "01:07:12", "text": "tell. Um, so it's a dangerous dangerous"}, {"start": "01:07:11", "end": "01:07:15", "text": "period that we're entering into. But I"}, {"start": "01:07:12", "end": "01:07:17", "text": "think it's also shows how important the"}, {"start": "01:07:15", "end": "01:07:19", "text": "the research that we did uh that's in"}, {"start": "01:07:17", "end": "01:07:22", "text": "the podcast and also how important it"}, {"start": "01:07:19", "end": "01:07:24", "text": "was for Vera Serova to file that lawsuit"}, {"start": "01:07:22", "end": "01:07:26", "text": "and to actually create that precedent"}, {"start": "01:07:24", "end": "01:07:29", "text": "where a Supreme Court has actually said"}, {"start": "01:07:26", "end": "01:07:33", "text": "like if this is not really who you say"}, {"start": "01:07:29", "end": "01:07:37", "text": "it is, then you can't sell it under that"}, {"start": "01:07:33", "end": "01:07:39", "text": "label. um because at least it's a little"}, {"start": "01:07:37", "end": "01:07:42", "text": "bit of a deterrent for people to try"}, {"start": "01:07:39", "end": "01:07:44", "text": "because it's now much easier to try. Uh"}, {"start": "01:07:42", "end": "01:07:46", "text": "back then, you know, they were forced to"}, {"start": "01:07:44", "end": "01:07:48", "text": "hire someone to come in and sing and and"}, {"start": "01:07:46", "end": "01:07:50", "text": "manipulate the audio and take all the"}, {"start": "01:07:48", "end": "01:07:52", "text": "samples of Michael's real voice and try"}, {"start": "01:07:50", "end": "01:07:53", "text": "to make it sound more convincing than it"}, {"start": "01:07:52", "end": "01:07:56", "text": "did before those samples were already in"}, {"start": "01:07:53", "end": "01:07:57", "text": "there. And now it's just literally the"}, {"start": "01:07:56", "end": "01:08:01", "text": "push of a button and you can get a"}, {"start": "01:07:57", "end": "01:08:02", "text": "pretty close replica. And uh it's a"}, {"start": "01:08:01", "end": "01:08:06", "text": "dangerous dangerous moment."}, {"start": "01:08:02", "end": "01:08:09", "text": ">> Yes, it is. Well, I'm glad it was done"}, {"start": "01:08:06", "end": "01:08:11", "text": "so shoddily because it gave us a"}, {"start": "01:08:09", "end": "01:08:14", "text": "fantastic topic and also it gave the"}, {"start": "01:08:11", "end": "01:08:16", "text": "world a you know again a character"}, {"start": "01:08:14", "end": "01:08:18", "text": "witness against the Casios because"}, {"start": "01:08:16", "end": "01:08:21", "text": "Michael Jackson can no longer have any"}, {"start": "01:08:18", "end": "01:08:23", "text": "character witness for himself. He is"}, {"start": "01:08:21", "end": "01:08:25", "text": "dead. So this is a data point we all"}, {"start": "01:08:23", "end": "01:08:27", "text": "need to consider. So Damen Shields,"}, {"start": "01:08:25", "end": "01:08:28", "text": "thank you so much for talking to me."}, {"start": "01:08:27", "end": "01:08:31", "text": "Thank you for putting this fantastic"}, {"start": "01:08:28", "end": "01:08:34", "text": "podcast together um and being willing to"}, {"start": "01:08:31", "end": "01:08:36", "text": "answer my questions and you know I have"}, {"start": "01:08:34", "end": "01:08:39", "text": "a lot of other questions about the"}, {"start": "01:08:36", "end": "01:08:41", "text": "influence of Michael Jackson and the"}, {"start": "01:08:39", "end": "01:08:42", "text": "claims and all of that but I really"}, {"start": "01:08:41", "end": "01:08:44", "text": "wanted to just highlight this story so"}, {"start": "01:08:42", "end": "01:08:45", "text": "maybe we can talk another time if you'd"}, {"start": "01:08:44", "end": "01:08:47", "text": "be willing."}, {"start": "01:08:45", "end": "01:08:49", "text": ">> I would love that."}, {"start": "01:08:47", "end": "01:08:51", "text": ">> Okay, thank you so much. Uh the podcast"}, {"start": "01:08:49", "end": "01:08:52", "text": "again is called Faking Michael. There's"}, {"start": "01:08:51", "end": "01:08:55", "text": "an X feed. You can find it at"}, {"start": "01:08:52", "end": "01:08:57", "text": "fakingichel.com. You can also follow"}, {"start": "01:08:55", "end": "01:09:00", "text": "Damian on X. We'll put his ex account on"}, {"start": "01:08:57", "end": "01:09:01", "text": "the screen. And I hope you enjoyed this."}, {"start": "01:09:00", "end": "01:09:03", "text": "Let us know your thoughts. Thanks again,"}, {"start": "01:09:01", "end": "01:09:04", "text": "Damian."}, {"start": "01:09:03", "end": "01:09:06", "text": ">> My pleasure."}, {"start": "01:09:04", "end": "01:09:07", "text": ">> Thank you so much for watching Redacted."}, {"start": "01:09:06", "end": "01:09:09", "text": "We'd love for you to subscribe to the"}, {"start": "01:09:07", "end": "01:09:11", "text": "channel. It's totally free. 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[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "Let's talk about Russia now. What is so"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "hard to understand when they say get out"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "now? Like is that difficult? Like if if"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "I tell my children to get out of this"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "space now, they will listen to me and"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "they will leave. So when Russia tells"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "diplomats and members of the Western"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "Diplomatic Corps to get out of Ukraine's"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "capital right now, we are about to bomb"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "the hell out of it. Like these are not"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "ambiguous messages coming from Russia."}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "It seems that they think Russia and"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "Putin are joking about just two hours"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "ago. Here was Shoo who is the Russian"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "Security Council Secretary saying, \"We"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "have seriously and consciously warned"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "ambassadors to leave Kief because"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "strikes can happen at any moment.\""}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "Watch."}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "So it's could happen at any moment. So"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "what then? The EU is not taking it"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "seriously. The United States is not"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "taking it seriously. In fact, instead of"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "staying away from what's going to become"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "hell on earth potentially in the next"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "few days, could be weeks, but seems"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "likely that it's about to happen in"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "response to the killing of those 21"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "girls at that college and under enormous"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "pressure back home. Putin is in order to"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "end this war. Like we are in the endgame"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "now. So what does the United States do?"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "What does US Congress do? sends senators"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "into the bowels of Ukraine to once again"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "reiterate that we stand with Ukraine,"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "seeing an opportunity of course right"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "now in order to funnel more money and"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "launder more money through Ukraine as"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "the massive moneyaundering operation"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "that it has been. Of course, for"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "Democrats, defense contractors that you"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "like, the largest money laundering"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "operation perhaps in history unfolded in"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "Ukraine. So, we need to keep that money"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "going. We need to keep it flowing. And"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "we don't care that nearly 2 million"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "Ukrainians have now been killed in this"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "war. 2 million."}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "But keep the money flowing. So, here's"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "Senator Blubenthal"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "just a short time ago saying, \"We we're"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "here. We're here and you know what?"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "We're not going anywhere.\" Watch."}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:53", "text": ">> First, let me just dispel a couple of"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "myths."}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "America is not leaving Ukraine. Our"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "diplomats are here to stay. We're"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "standing behind Ukraine as we have done"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "from the outset."}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "We will not be cowed by"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "Russian threats or bullying."}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "We're not scared and neither should the"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "people of Ukraine be cowed in any way by"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "this kind of bully."}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:25", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "So"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:30", "text": ">> pretty pretty sure Putin just pissed"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "himself when he saw that. Wow."}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:33", "text": ">> Yeah. There's there's video now"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "circulating of Putin literally peeing in"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "a corner. He's so scared of Richard"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "Blumenthal."}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:43", "text": ">> His pants are all wet."}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:44", "text": ">> The other guy to his right when he says"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "that we're we're not we're saying we're"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "not scared. The other guy looks like uh"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "yeah, speak for yourself, dude."}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:52", "text": ">> Yeah. We're going to make this press"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "conference and we're on we're on an"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "airplane out of here because shit's"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "about to hit the fan. But all you"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "diplomats stay here. You guys stay here."}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "You're fine. Nothing to see here. When"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "the targets Russia has said they will"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "hit are major government infrastructure"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "and buildings. I mean I mean talk about"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "being wiped off the map. Okay. And you"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "recall and I know that there was"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "somebody in the chat room the other day"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "who wasn't educated on this but it's"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "okay. like not everyone is kneede in"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "this stuff. Um but you know, remember"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "Kiev was totally surrounded and there"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "was one corridor out of the city where"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "they were allowing people to leave and"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "they were about to choke off that artery"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "when Emanuel Mcronone and other NATO"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "members said to Putin, \"Hey, let's put a"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "deal in place. Back off of Kiev. Pull"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "back and we'll put this deal in place.\""}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "It was a lie and Putin fell for it. And"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "to his credit, he's admitted that's one"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "of his biggest mistakes."}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "It was completely surrounded. So the"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "choke point is happening right now. We"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "are about to see it seems like the"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "endgame in this war. And so you want to"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "keep US diplomats there"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "like in embassies and otherwise. There"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "was a report over the past 24 hours that"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "US that the US embassy in Ukraine was"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "being evacuated to which lots of other"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "people in including community notes were"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "like no no they're not going anywhere."}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "Oh good. So then they'll all die. Like"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "if you've got family, US family that's"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "in Ukraine right now, and I know there's"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "lots of CIA stations across Ukraine, I"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "think more than 10 if I'm not mistaken."}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "How many of those will survive this"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "attack?"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "I don't know. But meanwhile, guess who's"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "not there? Zalinski got out of his own"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "country to fly to Sweden in order to try"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "to shore up additional money and weapons"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "and getting a massive new weapons"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "package"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "including Griffin fighter jets which the"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "he says will make their combat aviation"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "more effective. By the way, what pilots"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "do they have left in Ukraine? It's not"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "going to be Ukrainian pilots flying"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "flying these jets."}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "It wasn't Ukrainian pilots flying those"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "jets at the beginning of the war. It was"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "NATO fighters flying those jets."}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "So what air what pilots do you have left"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "in Ukraine that can fly fighter jets?"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "150 of them. Yeah. The ghost of Kev."}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:23", "text": ">> Is he still around?"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:25", "text": ">> He was pretty good."}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:27", "text": ">> Like the Red Baron. Remember that story?"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "This guy, he was taking out Russians"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "left and right. He's an amazing pilot."}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "Yeah, that story was false."}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "The ghost of Kiev took out a what? He"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "took out a Russian destroyer."}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:42", "text": ">> Yeah, it was him. Him him and the Snake"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "Island guys. That never happened either."}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:49", "text": ">> Snake Island. The amount of propaganda"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "so thick. So, here is Zalinsky in Sweden"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "making a deal for about 80 to 90 billion"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "dollars in order to get all of these new"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "aircraft."}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "The moment these aircraft, the experts"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "we've spoken to on the show, the moment"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "any of these aircraft have entered the"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "theater in Ukraine, Russia has destroyed"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "them. So, you think Russia is going to"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "allow"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "150 brand new Griffin fighter jets"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "coming from Sweden to make it into"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "Ukraine?"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "Like, are you mentally [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "So, who this is just one big massive"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "money laundering operation. They're not"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "Where do you get this money from? And"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "you're going to buy these jets that are"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "never going to make it into the air. But"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "here he is. Listen."}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "for"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "Minister And the most most most"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "importantly the gripen aircraft for all"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "of our pilots, all of our aces that we"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "have in Ukraine."}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "I mean,"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "we are living like an assimulation"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "where they think you are stupid."}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "Here's Ursula Vanderline playing right"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "into the false narrative."}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "Congratulations"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "to the Ukrainian Parliament and"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "Zalinsk's team for the swift work to"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "ratify the main documents related to a"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "$90 billion loan. Great. So now they can"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "get these dispersements in June so the"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "money can flow in. They can get these"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "new aircraft to fight Russia."}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "$90 billion."}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "Ukraine has already given itself"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "completely away to the International"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "Monetary Fund, the World Bank. half of"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "its country is gone to Black Rockck and"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "Vanguard. Now, Jewish settlements taking"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "over. Of course, they wanted Ukraine to"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "become the Greater Israel Project, part"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "of the Greater Israel Project, as"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "Colonel Douglas McGregor just talked"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "about today."}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "Jewish settlements arriving there in"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "order to take over that land as well."}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "So, what's left of Ukraine? Giving away"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "90 bill. You can't afford $90 billion."}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "Where are you getting this money from?"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "You're borrowing it from the EU the EU."}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "You've given away your entire country's"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "future. It's gone. Not only did you kill"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "2 million people,"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "you've completely"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "mortgaged your future. Gone. But okay,"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "glad you're going to get those aircraft"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "that Russia will bomb within 2 minutes"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "of landing in Ukraine or before they"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "ever make it there."}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "Meanwhile, what about peace? On the"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "Russian side, Russia says, \"No, Ukraine"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "will not talk to us. There is no"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "discussions at all.\" Representative"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "Paula Luna posted this just a few"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "minutes ago. Says, \"You're now holding"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "up the peace agreement. Vladimir"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "Zalinsky, it's time to accept it. Not to"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "mention, you are refusing to hold"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "elections and your government funneled"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "money to the United States sent to"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "Ukraine back into Joe Biden's"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "re-election campaign. Yes, it's one big"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "moneyaundering operation.\""}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "So, I'm glad that senators were flying"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "in once again. senators, by the way,"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "that received hundreds of millions of"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "hundreds of uh hundreds of thousands of"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "dollars from the defense contractors as"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "part of their election campaigns. So,"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "like Senator Blumenthal, lots of money,"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "lots of money from defense industry."}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "Shocking, right? I know that's probably"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "a big surprise to you."}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "So, you're watching like a psy a psycho"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "a psychological operation unfolding in"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "real time right now. Like, this is what"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "they're not telling you. what they're"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "trying what you're going to start to see"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "in the mainstream media is, oh, we need"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "to support Ukraine again. You're going"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "to start to see maybe Ukrainian flags"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "showing up in people's bios. You're"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "going to start to see news reports about"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "how Ukraine is needs our help because we"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "got to fight the Russian bear. And sure"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "enough, right on Q, CNN, which is of"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "course an extension of the CIA, the"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "mockingb bird media, just did a whole"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "piece"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "on how Ukraine is winning against Russia"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "and why we need to support them now more"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "than ever to keep the winning going."}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "This is amazing. Watch. Katarina, you"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "argue that Russia has tried to fight a"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "war of attrition where they gradually"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "not just eat up Ukrainian resources but"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "also wait out Ukraine and the West. But"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "your report says that's not working."}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "What what what changed to uh to in"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "effect undermine that Russian war plan?"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:56", "text": ">> You're exactly right. The Russian theory"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "of victory is that the Kremlin"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "anticipated that it can outlast uh and"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "out attit Ukrainian forces essentially"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "keeping to push um advancing 100 meters"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "at a time in an effort to paint a"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "picture that they're actually achieving"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "victories on the battlefield. Now,"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "Ukrainians are"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:18", "text": ">> I mean, just stop. Just stop."}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "The Institute for the Study of War, one"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "of these think tanks, Jim Skudo from"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "CNN, who was embedded in Ukraine, lying"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "to the American people about what was"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "happening."}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "CNN lying to the American people what"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "was happening in Ukraine."}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "Okay,"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "these people are clowns and these people"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "are an extension of the deep state, the"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "CIA."}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "And so you have the these psychological"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "operations now unfolding on the American"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "people that yeah, Russia's losing that"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "Ukraine has been fighting them back. We"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "heard this for four years ago. Ukraine's"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "pushing them back. Okay. You've lost 2"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "million 2 million soldiers killed, not"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "injured. Not to mention the hundreds of"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "thousands that have permanently lost"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "limbs."}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "2 million dead."}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "Now the people that are fighting"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "scarcely Ukrainians, many of them"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "foreign mercenaries from Colombia,"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "France, Poland,"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "and so you watch CNN, you believe this"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "garbage."}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "It's I mean it's it's an insult to your"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "intelligence."}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "And so this war of attrition hasn't"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "worked for whom?"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "Zalinsky is literally flying to Sweden"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "to get more munitions. He literally"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "posted a video three days ago begging"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "the West to send more munitions because"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "we're out of them. What the hell is she"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "talking about?"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "An entire generation of young men has"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "been killed."}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "But Ukraine's winning."}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "Ukraine's winning."}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "These people are absolutely delusional."}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "Meanwhile,"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "new information about the drone attacks"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "that killed all of those young girls at"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "the college in Russia."}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "There they are. All of those girls"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "killed in the Starblesque attack at that"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "college. An attack on multiple"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "buildings. Ukraine says it was an errant"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "drone that inadvertently struck. No, it"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "didn't. Multiple drones on attacking"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "multiple buildings. All intentional and"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "all done with satellite coordination."}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "And as Russia has pointed out, where did"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "the satellite coordination come from?"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "Who was providing it? Who was providing"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "the telemetry data? Uh, the friends of"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "NATO, the West, arguably MI6."}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "But it turns out according to new"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "reports out of Russia today that"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "Palunteer has been deeply in integrated"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "with Ukraine's military ops for years"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "helping to shape the policy of"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "rousophobia in addition to telemetry"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "data."}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "So the spokesperson Maria Zarakova um"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "when she was asked whether there was any"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "US AI company involved in any way tied"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "to the deadly attack on the college said"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "that yes this is what they found."}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:23", "text": ">> Since the beginning of the special"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "military operation Palanteer has been"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "closely working with the KF regime"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "providing the capabilities of using"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "artificial intelligence systems in the"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "interest of Ukraine. It's well known"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "that company has agreements and"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "obligations"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "to the Pentagon as a contractor."}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:48", "text": ">> Yeah. So, Palunteer"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "surprising Palunteer is involved"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "in the AI targeting. Okay. Of course."}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "And apparently Starlink as well"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "involved."}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "So, all of that to say, keep your"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "American diplomats there. Keep your"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "European diplomats there."}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "Keep a stiff upper lip as these bombs"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "start raining down on Ukraine over the"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "next few days, few hours. Who the hell"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "knows? But I'm glad the senators are"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "there to make sure that we're not"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "abandoning Ukraine in any kind of way."}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "Thank you so much for watching Redacted."}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "We'd love for you to subscribe to the"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "channel. It's totally free if you want"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "to follow us or subscribe. 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And"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "Russia's saying as much. And there's one"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "thing about Russia. They don't usually"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "bluff. Like, they usually tell you what"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "they're going to do and then they do it."}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "And then everyone's like, \"I can't"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "believe they did it.\" Well, they just"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "told us they were going to do it. Why"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "are you surprised by that? Yeah, but"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "we're used to lying, so they just told"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "us they were going to do it and then"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "they did it. That seems to be exactly"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "what's going to happen. Former CIA"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "officer Larry Johnson says Russia held"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "back from striking key areas in Kiev"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "four years ago"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "specifically. I mean, they were"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "encircled. The city was freaking"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "encircled. They had one artery out of"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "the damn city. They held back and now it"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "seems like the gloves are off. So I'd"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "like to talk to Larry now about that and"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "Iran in just moments here. Larry, great"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "to see you. Welcome back to the show."}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:12", "text": ">> Hey Clayton, good to see you, man."}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:15", "text": ">> Great to see you. So why do you think"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "Americans and Europeans are ignoring"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "these warnings? I mean, you saw Senator"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "Blumenthal there. We're not going"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "anywhere. You have US senators who flew"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "into the capital saying we're, you know,"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "we're not going to buy into this"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "bullying and and garbage, this chest"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "bumping that Russia is making right now."}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "They're not going to attack Kiev. What"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "do you make of that?"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:37", "text": ">> Yeah, they've mistaken Russian patience"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "for Russian weakness. Uh I think the one"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "of the reasons Russia had not attacked"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "or or threatened to attack Kev uh the"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "way they are now uh prior to this point"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "is Russia was not ready did not have the"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "full inventory of weapons and personnel"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "ready to confront NATO. They do now. So"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "they are in that position. Uh the turn"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "the shift in this tone started three"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "weeks ago. Um Ambassador Pansski, Dmitri"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "Pansky, he used to be the number two guy"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "at the UN. Uh he was he was sort of my"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "host and chaperone when I spoke to the"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "UN Security Council two years ago, three"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "years ago now. And uh he's a he's a I"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "call him a quiet professional. He"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "currently is the Russian ambassador to"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "the Organization for Security and"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "Cooperation in Europe. And he came out"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "on the Danny Davis podcast about 3 weeks"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "ago and and was the first one to put out"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "that basically Europe Europe was on the"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "target list and and Russia was ready to"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "to hit them because of their support for"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "these attacks, these terrorist attacks"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "inside Russia. And let's emphasize, when"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "you attack civilian targets and you use"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "violence, that's terrorism. It doesn't"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "matter whether it's a government doing"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "it as part of war or not, that is"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "terrorism. If you're bombing and killing"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "civilians, whe whether you're uh, you"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "know, some ISIS, al-Qaeda, or Israel, or"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "the United States, that is terrorism."}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "And so these attacks have been seen by"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "Russia as nothing more than pure"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "terrorism. Two days, 3 days after uh"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "Ambassador Polansky made his comments,"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "uh it was re-emphasized by the deputy"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "foreign minister Sergey Ripkov and and"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "I've also met uh with Ambassador Ribbof"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "back in 2023."}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "Uh and then it was uh finalized this"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "week with uh Sergey Lev's the foreign"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "minister's comments to Marco Rubio and"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "he wasn't kidding. And so they're"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "they're they're giving the West notice."}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "They're giving them time to vacate. And"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "you know I think again they held off up"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "to this point because they weren't ready"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "prepared to go to full full-blown war"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "with NATO. Now they are I think the"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "other aspect was they had intelligence"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "assets in these various uh CIA uh SBU"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "sites uh defense headquarter sites uh"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "but now they've had a chance to vacate"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "them. So th this is this is moving into"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "a new phase a much more dangerous phase"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "and this was done at the direction of"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "Vladimir Putin. you worked at the CIA"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "getting those assets as you talked about"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "these spies basically out of so we have"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "how many we had how many CIA offices in"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "in Ukraine about eight of them or"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "something I think"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:51", "text": ">> I I really I have no idea I just know"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "that you will have uh you've got the CIA"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "station and then they have what are"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "called bases so sort of subsets of that"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "station and they could be assigned to uh"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "both the military intelligence, the"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "civilian intelligence side of the house."}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "They may even be assigned actually to"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "military units. Um, and then you also"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "have military advisers. So, it's not"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "just CIA,"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:15", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:17", "text": ">> And and this because Russia's warning"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "was not so much for the diplomats. It"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "was for all of these secondary personnel"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "who are providing support to military"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "operations and intelligence operations."}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "I guess what my point is uh so you've"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "got I think the New York Times when they"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "did that bombshell piece which we were"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "we had already talked about on our show"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "but two years later they admitted that"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "the CIA was active in Ukraine and they I"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "think they I think in that piece they"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "said I was like five or eight stations"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "uh throughout Ukraine a big presence but"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "then you mentioned so then you've got uh"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "the SBU and so you've got Russian spies"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "infiltrating obviously CIA SBU"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:58", "text": ">> when those people. How difficult is it"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "for those people to leave? Like if if"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "John suddenly doesn't show up to work,"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "it's pretty clear that John probably"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "wasn't working for the CIA. Pretty clear"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "that John probably is not a member of"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "the SBU. He's a Russian and he just went"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "back to Mother Russia cuz something some"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "shit's about to happen here, I guess."}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "How difficult is it to unpack that?"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "Well, and and so this gets to"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "operational trade car trade craft when I"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "I am certain"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "Russians haven't briefed me, so I"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "haven't seen their, you know, behind the"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "scenes secret information, but you know,"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "I' I'd wager a whole lot of money that"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "they they had key sectors of both the"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "military side of the house, the"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "intelligence side of the house, the law"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "enforcement side of the house, the"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "diplomatic, they had them all"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "penetrated. that has been the Russians"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "have been incredible with their"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "intelligence operations over the years."}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "They had they had the Germans full"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "during World War II. The head of German"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "and the Nazi intelligence, a guy named"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "Reinhardt Galen, uh he thought, man, he"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "he had penetrated uh the KGB and and it"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "turned out uh or it was NKVD back then."}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "It turned out uh he was being being"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "misled by a Soviet source, a Jewish guy"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "in Yugus then Yugoslavia who claimed to"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "be this you know anti anti-s Soviet"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "type. So my point is Russia's got those"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "assets you keep those ass you always"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "have to make a calculation. Is the"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "information we getting from them more"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "valuable than if we took this unit out"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "and and destroyed it? at the where the"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "where the Russians are now is they've"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "made that calculation,"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "we're going to destroy that unit. And so"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "now, but because of the way this has"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "been handled in public, it it gives"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "these these assets a way to not show up"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "to work without raising suspicion"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "because everybody's sort of like"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "nervous. Hey, are we going to get taken"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "out?"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:54", "text": ">> What do you think? I want to get to Iran"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "here in a second before we let you go,"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "Larry. But what do you think? How"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "devastating an attack do you think this"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "is going to be? Do you believe that this"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "is the endgame, so to speak, that this"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "is the full-scale Russian invasion that"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "the West has been saying they've been"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "beating back for years."}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:14", "text": ">> Yeah, this is let's let's think of it."}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "This is uh this is taking your"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "windshield wipers from intermittent, you"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "know, boom boom"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "boom to high speed. Boom boom boom boom"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "boom boom boom. That's where it's going"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "to go. I think it's going to be"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "intensified attacks. They're going to"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "lay the groundwork for the Russia is"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "going to reoccupy and take Kev and then"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "they will also take Odessa before this"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "is over. Uh Russia is uh the claims that"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "Russia is weak and slow and confused and"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "that's just all Western propaganda,"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "Western spin. So, uh, I I think the"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "Russians have made a determination that"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "the this this special military operation"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "is going to enter a new level of"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "activity."}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:57", "text": ">> Do you think they're going to install a"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "puppet government?"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:00", "text": ">> No, it won't be so much a puppet, but"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "it'll be a government that will be"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "Russia."}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:06", "text": ">> Yeah. Respectful of Russia uh of"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "Russia's uh security, you know. And"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "look, this isn't People pretend, oh"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "well, they the West can mount an"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "insurgency against Russia. They keep"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "forgetting Russ the the Soviets/Russians"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "have been through this. They did it in"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "19 early 1950. CIA and MI6 were were"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "putting together guerilla groups that"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "were operating in Ukraine out of the"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "Bandera faction and it took the the"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "Russians about five to six years to"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "crush that. Then there was the Chchin"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "war 1999 that went on till 2010 that was"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "westernbacked radical jihadists and the"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "Russians defeated them and then restored"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "calm. So you know Russia at least has a"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "track record of knowing how to deal with"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "this. It's just you know they'd prefer"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "not to but when their hands forced they"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "deal with it."}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "Earlier today, you and I were texting"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "and you said, you know, we let's let's"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "talk about this Iranian so-called"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "ceasefire. Um, I love the the quotes"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "around so-called. So, six the reports"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "are, at least over the past few hours,"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "60-day potential extension of this"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "ceasefire agreement that President Trump"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "has to sign off on it. There are reports"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "coming out of Iran. You can confirm or"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "deny this, that they're not really"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "involved in this at all. Sounds like"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "once again, what do you make of this"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "latest back and forth 60-day ceasefire?"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "Is there any truth to it?"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:38", "text": ">> So, in just uh in just the last, let's"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "see, 25 minutes, uh the Iranians shot"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "down an MQ9 drone belonging to the"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "Americans. It was shot down in the"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "southern Basher province. Um they uh so"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "still today for the third consecutive"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "day there's an exchange of fire between"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "the United States which which has a"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "combat air patrol over the area and"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "Iranians on the ground. Reportedly"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "yesterday the shots were fired at a US"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "tanker that was trying to sneak through"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "the straight of Hormuz. Today the the"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "Iranians have stopped four more US"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "ships. So uh they continue to test it."}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "the the the the the the foundation of"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "what Iran is willing to agree to has not"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "been agreed to. If if if Scott Besson is"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "to be believed uh the the Iranians"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "insist on one of the assets are"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "unfrozen, not sometime in the future"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "now. Unfrozen that the sanctions are"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "relieved are are ended especially"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "particularly on oil. that the straight"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "of Hormuz will be under uh Iranian"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "control in tandem with Oman and that"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "ships will pay an environmental fee just"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "like they do passing through the dinels"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "to go in and out of the Black Sea uh"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "where Turkey is handling that. And"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "fourth, an end to the war, the war in"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "Lebanon's got to stop. That means"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "stopping the killing of Palestinians in"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "Gaza and West Bank as well. Well, unless"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "troop unless Trump forces the hand of"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "the Israelis, that's not going to"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "happen. And if that doesn't happen,"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "there is no this ceasefire is not going"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "to hold. But there is no there is no"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "agreement to end the fighting at all."}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "They are they're still far apart. Uh"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "Iran is they made clear what their what"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "their conditions are. It's it's the"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "Trump administration that's under the"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "firm control of the Zionists that's"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "unwilling to accept those conditions."}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "Once again, and it always seems to"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "happen on a Thursday or Friday, you"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "know, right?"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:48", "text": ">> Hey, just, you know, people who are"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "playing the derivatives and shorting"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "stocks, right? They're making they're"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "making a killing. They are making a"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "killing."}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:58", "text": ">> Massive massive money-making machine"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "that this has become for people and a"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "lot of people are getting rich off of"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "it."}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:05", "text": ">> Larry, great to see you as always, my"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "friend. Uh you can read more about"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "Larry's great work over at Sonar 21."}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "Does some incredible reporting over"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "there and uh and uh really appreciate"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "all of your insights as always, Larry."}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "Thank you so much for joining us, man."}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:17", "text": ">> Hey, my friend. I appreciate it. Take"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "care."}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:20", "text": ">> You bet. Thanks, Larry. Thank you so"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "much for watching Redacted. 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[{"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "My fellow Americans,"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "Welcome into Redacted, everybody. I'm"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "Natalie Morris"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:12", "text": ">> and I'm Clayton Morris."}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:14", "text": ">> And today we're going to cover the"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "stories the mainstream media largely"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "ignores."}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:18", "text": ">> And wake up everybody. Welcome into"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "Redacted. I'm Clayton Morris."}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:20", "text": ">> I'm Natalie Morris."}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:23", "text": ">> And on this show we cover the stories"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "the mainstream media largely ignores. Or"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:26", "text": ">> Stop whispering. I don't know what"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "you're saying. I said, \"We got a busy"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "show today.\" Welcome in to Redacted. I'm"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "Clayton Morris."}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:33", "text": ">> Right before we go live, he's like"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:34", "text": ">> Hey. And I'm like,"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:35", "text": ">> we got a lot we got a lot of news to get"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "to, so let's do it."}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:38", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:45", "text": ">> Congressman, good to see you."}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:49", "text": ">> Oh, it's good to see you, Clayton. Um,"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "listen, I I retweeted Trump's uh diet"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "tribe there and I said, you know, the"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "president has declared so much war on me"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "today that I think he needs an act of"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "Congress for this,"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:03", "text": ">> right? Well, it's football season and"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "there has been backlash about male NFL"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "cheer leaders. This isn't new. Men have"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "always been a part of cheer, but for"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "some reason there's a fresh stir up"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "about it. Honestly, to me, it feels like"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "a backlash to the trans agenda that's"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "been shoved in our faces, and that's an"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "unfortunate because I don't think this"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "deserves the same outrage."}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:24", "text": ">> Uh, so you're in favor of men"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "in as NFL cheerleaders?"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:28", "text": ">> Yeah, I don't care as long as they're"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "they've got the chops to dance. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:33", "text": ">> I am absolutely not. No, first of all,"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "it's a predominantly male audience that"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "watches football, watches NFL football."}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:40", "text": ">> But I can watch football. So what?"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "You can, but I'm just telling you, it's"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "a predominantly male sport who"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "predominantly men who watch it. No man"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "wants to watch other men do"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "cheerleading."}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "Why the hell are these people still"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "allowed to like walk through freaking"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "airports? These people should be under"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "uh under arrest behind bars for treason."}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "Um,"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:12", "text": ">> that's correct. You're 100% right. And"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "guess what, Clayton? Every single person"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "that voted for President Trump and voted"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "for accountability is going to feel"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "betrayed. Why are these people still"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "free and able to carry out crimes"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "against the American people and against"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "their own country because they haven't"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "been held accountable? Well, guess what?"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "You know who's going to go down for"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "those crimes? It's not going to be those"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "people. It is going to be the people who"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "are in power now. So at what point do"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "you see like a an event horizon Dr. Paul"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "like where the US dollar like there's a"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "point of no return. Have we already"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "reached that point of no return?"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:49", "text": ">> You know that's the way it works in"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "places like Zimbab Zimbabwe and and uh"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "you know Venezuela you know it finally"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "hits and and then there's runaway"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "inflation there's a collision and then"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "they have to do a new currency that will"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "come and can come. But I keep thinking,"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "can they be that stupid? You know, why"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "doesn't somebody grab hold of the range?"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "But but that's not uh that's not the way"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "it works. It's going to get worse. There"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "will be a liquidation. They have to, you"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "know, liquidate the debt. We can't"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "afford otherwise it'll increases"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "exponentially."}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:25", "text": ">> Police in the UK are just jogging around"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "in some tight leggings. They call them"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "tights there. And arresting men who cat"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "call them. So they found their hottest"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "gals on the force and had them just jog"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "about. Don't they have anything better"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "to do with high crime rates in the UK?"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "Apparently not."}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:44", "text": ">> These same women will be 45 years old"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "and wondering why they're single. These"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "same police officers making these"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "arrests."}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:50", "text": ">> There are entire memes about middle-aged"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "women who get cat called and they're"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "like, \"Thank you. Still got it, right?"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "They're not going to hear this anymore."}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "Not everybody hates it.\" Well, Democrats"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "are freaking out that what President"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "Trump is doing with his executive orders"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "and his orders to slash the federal"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "government budget and personnel is a"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "constitutional crisis. Their argument is"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "that he does not have the power to say"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "close a federal agency or choke off"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "their budgets or offer people early"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "retirement or a furlow. So, Lionel, yes"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "or no? Does the president have the"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "constitutional right to do this?"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "Absolutely 100%. And they're not even"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "claiming he doesn't. They're asking for"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "a temporary restraining order. Think of"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "it as a as a Hail Mary."}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:45", "text": ">> You think that that censorship is coming"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "from from the government, from the"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "Scottish government, from"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:51", "text": ">> I've I've reached a point where I don't"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "uh I don't put I don't take the"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "government seriously."}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "By definition, I take those people as"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "being essentially just fact totems, just"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "just puppets. They're just mouththing"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "words that are scripted for them"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "elsewhere. And I think they're just the"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "active components of of of projects that"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "are being uh prosecuted at the behest of"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "much larger entities, you know, the"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "United Nations, the World Economic"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "Forum, globalism in all its"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "manifestations,"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:20", "text": ">> right? You guys have an idea of who"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "Sydney Sweeney is. Well, her new ad"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "campaign for American Eagle Jeans is"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "being labeled by liberal fatties as Nazi"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "propaganda and the mainstream media as a"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "return to whiteness. It's a return to"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "whiteness to put Sydney Sweeney in a in"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "an ad promoting some sort of clothing."}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "Who could have seen this coming?"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:41", "text": ">> Um, hey, we do have a newsletter. Be"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "sure to check it out. 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What what I get"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "concerned about is it leaves open a"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "window to make you take another one in"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "four to 6 months."}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:24", "text": ">> It's the strangest thing to keep taking"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "shots every 6 months, but yet be more"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "and more prone to having the illness the"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "shots are supposed to prevent. The"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "Justice Department has decided that"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "domestic terrorism is a thing and that"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "people who advocate overthrow of the"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "government are terrorists. That's"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "terrifying. This is all big brother"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "stuff. There's no such thing as domestic"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "terrorists. What do we do about that?"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:47", "text": ">> Isn't it something? Right? Just in the"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "United States of America, I mean, our"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "founding document is the Declaration of"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "Independence. It's the most beautiful"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "document ever because it says the"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "opening doesn't even make an argument."}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "It just says it's self-evident that"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "there's a God and that he wants us to be"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "free, which I love. I love not even"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "having to not even pretending that that"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "needs to be argued. We take it as"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "self-evident that God wants us to be"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "free. And governments, they're just this"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "institution that man creates to protect"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "our freedom. And if they're not"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "protecting our freedom or if they're"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "tyrannical, then we have the right and"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "the duty to overthrow that government"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "and replace it with a new one. So, the"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "idea that the government that was"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "created by that document could then ever"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "try to say that like the overthrowing"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "your own government is some type of like"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "uh um ju just a moral sin on its face by"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "definition is crazy. That was the whole"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "spirit of the country was that you"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "overthrow a tyrannical government."}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:41", "text": ">> I I hear the same thing. I I jokingly"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "say when I return home from Washington"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "each week, my wife greets me at the"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "door, not with a hug or a kiss, but why"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "the hell is Anthony Fouchy not in jail"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "yet? So people are frustrated, but they"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "have to understand I don't control the"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "judicial system."}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:57", "text": ">> You were not allowed to deviate from the"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "talking points. I mean, I experienced"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "that,"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:09:59", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:00", "text": ">> Like for real."}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:02", "text": ">> No, you're not. And"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:03", "text": ">> you have to just nod along and be like,"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "\"Yeah, okay.\" I mean, if you think about"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "how ridiculous that is, you know, I had"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "to read minecomf in college, right? We"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "still read Hitler's words to understand"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:12", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:14", "text": ">> the move towards a final solution,"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "understanding blood, all of that. It's"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "written in his own book so you can"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "understand where he got to with this."}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "It's important to understand."}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:21", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:22", "text": ">> Historically,"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:24", "text": ">> I agree."}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:25", "text": ">> I don't endorse Hitler."}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:26", "text": ">> I don't think so."}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:27", "text": ">> By the way, I"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:29", "text": ">> Good. I'm I'm with you on that, Clayton."}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:31", "text": ">> Glad we agree on that. Next week,"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "Australia will take up consideration of"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "their combating anti-semitism, hate, and"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "extremism bill in Parliament. This is"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "one of the most draconian pieces of"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "legislation to hit the English-"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "speakaking world. like let's put"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "everything we can into this hate speech"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "bucket. Okay. Have they gone completely"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "insane in Australia?"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:53", "text": ">> It is clear that Western governments at"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "large are waging war on their"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "populations and Christianity and the"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "people need to really gain the courage"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "and speak while they still have the"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "right."}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:08", "text": ">> Well, Dan Bonino is back to his day job"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "hosting a podcast. You wondering why"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "we're not hearing more about this"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "Epstein case? I can't emphasize to you"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "enough this Epstein thing is more than"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "there's more than meets the eye there. I"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "know a lot of people want to make this"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "thing go away. And what the hell are"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "they hiding with Jeffrey Epstein? Why do"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "they want to make this Jeffrey Epstein"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "story go away so bad? Remember Dan told"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "all of this though to move on from this?"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "Watch."}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:35", "text": ">> He killed himself. You again. You want"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "me to I've I've seen the whole file. He"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "killed himself."}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "seen the whole file. He killed himself."}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "So, his first order of business back now"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "in the podcast circuit, according to"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "him, now that he's back, is going after"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "the independent media, black pillars, as"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "he calls them, grifters, and he's"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "attacking them, not telling us the truth"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "about the Epstein files or what it was"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "like behind the scenes going after the"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "January 6 pipe bomber. But Ron in our"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "chat asks, \"Where are the children?"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "You know, this is a very hard topic."}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "Where are the children?"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "550,000 unaccompanied. Yes, ma'am."}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "They're gone. 550,000 unaccompanied"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "alien children from babies, literally"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "just birth babies to 17 years old,"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "crossed the border, were transported"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "through all the NOS's that you and I"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "just talked about, and sent back to the"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "cartel members, and they're all lost."}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "I'm telling you,"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:35", "text": ">> how involved would the CIA be in what"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "Kevin just talked about? this bot"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "program and pushing out these sort of"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "false narratives from these like mega"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "influencers,"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:46", "text": ">> right? There are entire units at the CIA"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "uh that do this as their as their, you"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "know, 40hour a week jobs. Yeah, they"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "they would this would be a very"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "sophisticated program uh taking place at"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "the CIA."}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:04", "text": ">> Further evidence the United States"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "Constitution is being thrown out. The"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "FBI executed a search warrant on a"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "Washington Post reporter's home. To me,"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "this is devastating for the freedom of"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "the press in the United States because,"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "as Clay Greenwald or any other great"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "journalist would tell you, I mean, they"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "rely on these types of informants. They"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "rely on these types of of leakers"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "providing them with documents to"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "actually be able to tell the story and"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "hold government accountable. That's the"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "that's the power of the press. So for"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "the for you're going to sort of send a"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "shock wave of fear through newsrooms"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "from to stop or prevent them from really"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "doing journalism."}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:41", "text": ">> Well, that that some cynic might say"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "that would be the feature, not the bug."}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "And others can imagine of how this can"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "be weaponized against people who might"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "be political adversaries or ideological"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "adversaries to the current"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "administration above and beyond the"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "Washington Post. I mean that that goes"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "without saying."}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:14:00", "text": ">> So what is the threat to democracy?"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "People on both sides, people in power"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "saying out loud that they want to"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "control what you get to hear and see. It"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "is real. It is a threat"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "and it is happening and growing. And"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "I'll tell you what, punishing thought"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "is on the agenda. And I just heard it"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "from someone who's not a coupe, not Alex"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "Jones, not Tucker Carlson, one of the"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "most sober and intelligent politicians"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "of our time, Hillary Rodm Clinton."}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:40", "text": ">> I think it's important to indict uh the"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "Russians uh just as Mueller indicted a"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "lot of Russians uh who were engaged in"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "uh uh direct election interference and"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "boosting Trump back in 2016. But I also"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "think there are Americans who are uh"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "engaged in uh this kind of propaganda uh"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "and whether they should be civily or"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "even in some cases criminally charged uh"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "is something that would be a better"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "deterrent."}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:09", "text": ">> Well, we now have hard evidence from"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "inside the United States Senate that"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "Hillary Clinton herself helped"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "manufacture the Trump collusion hoax and"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "approved it and we have the receipts for"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "it as well. This is explosive. This is"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "criminal level deceit that could lead"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "her to to her arrest. Wouldn't that be"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "amazing?"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:26", "text": ">> I never thought we would see such a"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "smoking gun, but this is literally an"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "email showing that she wanted to use the"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "FBI and weaponize it against her"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "political opponent. And the FBI went"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "along with it under a hoax they thought"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "up."}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "Are they hiding from you? What is the"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "mainstream narrative they'd like you to"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "believe? Welcome to Redacted with"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "Natalie and Clayton Morris. On this"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "show, we help to break down the"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "propaganda to bring you the truth behind"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "the news live from the Rocky Mountains."}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "Let's get started."}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "Welcome everybody to Redacted on this"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "Thursday. I am Clayton Morris. Natalie"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "is off today. It's our daughter's"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "graduation, I guess, from middle school"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "as you would say, and so doing a big"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "celebration, taking the girls out for a"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "little post uh school event today. So,"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "you got me. It's and you got the"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "testosterone of David and Philip and"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "Grim, all four dudes here today to talk"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "about the world's news and what's"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "happening. And a lot of interesting"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "developments over the past few hours. Uh"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "for one, let's talk about what's about"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "to happen in Russia, which is imminent."}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "And I don't know why the United States"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "is continuing to send senators and"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "diplomats to Ukraine when Russia has"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "told them, \"Get out now.\" That strikes"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "may happen imminently. Yeah. Send your"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "senators, send your defense contractor"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "friendly senators like Richard"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "Blumenthal and others into the heart of"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "Kiev telling you, telling Zalinsky that"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "we're going to continue to pour billions"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "into your country. Smart move. So,"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "what's about to happen? Unpack that."}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:27", "text": ">> That's one way to force the war they"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "want,"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:31", "text": ">> right? Well, I just think there's a scop"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "unfolding and if you see we'll we'll"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "we'll piece it all together today. We"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "got some great guests here on the show"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "today um to talk about all of that."}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "Plus, we're going to talk about Iran. It"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "looks like potentially a 60-day"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "ceasefire agreement is pending."}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "We'll see. I don't know. The Iranian"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "side is"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "offering up some different"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "points about all of this. President"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "Trump has not signed anything yet and"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "says that he will decide. So, it'll come"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "down to him and I don't know what"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "happens on the Iranian side. So, what"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "does that 60-day ceasefire look like?"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "Will Israel be involved? Will Lebanon be"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "involved? There's still bombings"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "happening as we speak. So, will that"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "stop? We'll unpack all of that. And how"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "much time do we really have left"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "economically?"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "Friend of the show, Brandon Wikard, has"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "said that by midsummer, all hell is"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "going to break loose economically. Uh,"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "we're going to look at that. And also,"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "we're going to talk about these AI data"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "centers today. A new report showing that"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "we could double the number of AI data"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "centers in the United States by next"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "year. next year. And this new report"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "showing exactly how ecologically,"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "water-wise, um, environmentally, what"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "these are doing to the power supply in"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "towns all across the United States and"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "as a national security risk? And is"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "China really a cautionary tale? Because"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "they have so many of these AI data"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "centers sitting there idle right now,"}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "not doing anything. 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We"}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:09", "text": "don't take money from big pharma,"}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "defense contractors, any of that stuff."}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:13", "text": "So thanks thanks for understanding on"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "that."}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "So let's talk to let's talk about Russia"}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:20", "text": "now. What is so hard to understand when"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:23", "text": "they say get out now? Like is that"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "difficult? Like if if I tell my children"}, {"start": "00:21:23", "end": "00:21:28", "text": "to get out of this space now, they will"}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:31", "text": "listen to me and they will leave. So"}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "when Russia tells diplomats and members"}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "of the Western Diplomatic Corps to get"}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "out of Ukraine's capital right now, we"}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "are about to bomb the hell out of it."}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:43", "text": "Like these are not ambiguous messages"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "coming from Russia. It seems that they"}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:49", "text": "think Russia and Putin are joking. About"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "just two hours ago, here was Shyigu, who"}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "is the Russian Security Council"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "Secretary, saying, \"We have seriously"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "and consciously warned ambassadors to"}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "leave Kief because strikes can happen at"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "any moment.\" Watch."}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:19", "text": "Uh,"}, {"start": "00:22:37", "end": "00:22:43", "text": "so it's can happen at any moment. So"}, {"start": "00:22:41", "end": "00:22:45", "text": "what then? The EU is not taking it"}, {"start": "00:22:43", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "seriously. The United States is not"}, {"start": "00:22:45", "end": "00:22:50", "text": "taking it seriously. In fact, instead of"}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:53", "text": "staying away from what's going to become"}, {"start": "00:22:50", "end": "00:22:55", "text": "hell on earth potentially in the next"}, {"start": "00:22:53", "end": "00:22:57", "text": "few days, could be weeks, but seems"}, {"start": "00:22:55", "end": "00:22:59", "text": "likely that it's about to happen in"}, {"start": "00:22:57", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "response to the killing of those 21"}, {"start": "00:22:59", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "girls at that college. And under"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:07", "text": "enormous pressure back home, Putin is in"}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "order to end this war. Like, we are in"}, {"start": "00:23:07", "end": "00:23:10", "text": "the endgame now. So, what does the"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "United States do? What does US Congress"}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:17", "text": "do? sends senators"}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:19", "text": "into the bowels of Ukraine to once again"}, {"start": "00:23:17", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "reiterate that we stand with Ukraine,"}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:23", "text": "seeing an opportunity of course right"}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:26", "text": "now in order to funnel more money and"}, {"start": "00:23:23", "end": "00:23:28", "text": "launder more money through Ukraine as"}, {"start": "00:23:26", "end": "00:23:31", "text": "the massive moneyaundering operation"}, {"start": "00:23:28", "end": "00:23:33", "text": "that it has been. Of course, for"}, {"start": "00:23:31", "end": "00:23:36", "text": "Democrats, defense contractors that you"}, {"start": "00:23:33", "end": "00:23:39", "text": "like, the largest money laundering"}, {"start": "00:23:36", "end": "00:23:41", "text": "operation perhaps in history unfolded in"}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:43", "text": "Ukraine. So, we need to keep that money"}, {"start": "00:23:41", "end": "00:23:45", "text": "going. We need to keep it flowing. And"}, {"start": "00:23:43", "end": "00:23:47", "text": "we don't care that nearly 2 million"}, {"start": "00:23:45", "end": "00:23:51", "text": "Ukrainians have now been killed in this"}, {"start": "00:23:47", "end": "00:23:51", "text": "war. 2 million."}, {"start": "00:23:52", "end": "00:23:56", "text": "But keep the money flowing. So, here's"}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:23:58", "text": "Senator Blubenthal"}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "just a short time ago saying, \"We we're"}, {"start": "00:23:58", "end": "00:24:02", "text": "here. We're here and you know what?"}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "We're not going anywhere.\" Watch."}, {"start": "00:24:02", "end": "00:24:07", "text": ">> First, let me just dispel a couple of"}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:09", "text": "myths."}, {"start": "00:24:07", "end": "00:24:13", "text": "America is not leaving Ukraine. Our"}, {"start": "00:24:09", "end": "00:24:17", "text": "diplomats are here to stay. We're"}, {"start": "00:24:13", "end": "00:24:23", "text": "standing behind Ukraine as we have done"}, {"start": "00:24:17", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "from the outset. We will not be cowed by"}, {"start": "00:24:23", "end": "00:24:31", "text": "Russian threats or bullying."}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:36", "text": "We're not scared and neither should the"}, {"start": "00:24:31", "end": "00:24:38", "text": "people of Ukraine be cowed in any way by"}, {"start": "00:24:36", "end": "00:24:39", "text": "this kind of bully."}, {"start": "00:24:38", "end": "00:24:40", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:24:39", "end": "00:24:42", "text": "So"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:44", "text": ">> pretty pretty sure Putin just pissed"}, {"start": "00:24:42", "end": "00:24:46", "text": "himself when he saw that. Wow."}, {"start": "00:24:44", "end": "00:24:48", "text": ">> Yeah. There's there's video now"}, {"start": "00:24:46", "end": "00:24:49", "text": "circulating of Putin literally peeing in"}, {"start": "00:24:48", "end": "00:24:52", "text": "a corner. He's so scared of Richard"}, {"start": "00:24:49", "end": "00:24:52", "text": "Blumenthal."}, {"start": "00:24:53", "end": "00:24:57", "text": ">> Like his pants are all wet."}, {"start": "00:24:56", "end": "00:24:59", "text": ">> The other guy to his right when he says"}, {"start": "00:24:57", "end": "00:25:01", "text": "that we're we're not we're saying we're"}, {"start": "00:24:59", "end": "00:25:04", "text": "not scared. The other guy looks like uh"}, {"start": "00:25:01", "end": "00:25:05", "text": "yeah, speak for yourself, dude."}, {"start": "00:25:04", "end": "00:25:07", "text": ">> Yeah. We're going to make this press"}, {"start": "00:25:05", "end": "00:25:08", "text": "conference and we're on we're on an"}, {"start": "00:25:07", "end": "00:25:10", "text": "airplane out of here because shit's"}, {"start": "00:25:08", "end": "00:25:12", "text": "about to hit the fan. But all you"}, {"start": "00:25:10", "end": "00:25:15", "text": "diplomats stay here. You guys stay here."}, {"start": "00:25:12", "end": "00:25:16", "text": "You're fine. Nothing to see here. When"}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:19", "text": "the targets Russia has said they will"}, {"start": "00:25:16", "end": "00:25:23", "text": "hit are major government infrastructure"}, {"start": "00:25:19", "end": "00:25:26", "text": "and buildings. I mean I mean talk about"}, {"start": "00:25:23", "end": "00:25:27", "text": "being wiped off the map. Okay. And you"}, {"start": "00:25:26", "end": "00:25:29", "text": "recall and I know that there was"}, {"start": "00:25:27", "end": "00:25:32", "text": "somebody in the chat room the other day"}, {"start": "00:25:29", "end": "00:25:34", "text": "who wasn't educated on this but it's"}, {"start": "00:25:32", "end": "00:25:37", "text": "okay. like not everyone is kneedeep in"}, {"start": "00:25:34", "end": "00:25:39", "text": "this stuff. Um, but you know, remember"}, {"start": "00:25:37", "end": "00:25:41", "text": "Kiev was totally surrounded and there"}, {"start": "00:25:39", "end": "00:25:43", "text": "was one corridor out of the city where"}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:45", "text": "they were allowing people to leave and"}, {"start": "00:25:43", "end": "00:25:48", "text": "they were about to choke off that artery"}, {"start": "00:25:45", "end": "00:25:51", "text": "when Emanuel Mcronone and other NATO"}, {"start": "00:25:48", "end": "00:25:53", "text": "members said to Putin, \"Hey, let's put a"}, {"start": "00:25:51", "end": "00:25:55", "text": "deal in place. Back off of Kiev, pull"}, {"start": "00:25:53", "end": "00:25:58", "text": "pull back and we'll put this deal in"}, {"start": "00:25:55", "end": "00:26:00", "text": "place.\" It was a lie and Putin fell for"}, {"start": "00:25:58", "end": "00:26:02", "text": "it. And to his credit, he's admitted"}, {"start": "00:26:00", "end": "00:26:05", "text": "that's one of his biggest mistakes."}, {"start": "00:26:02", "end": "00:26:07", "text": "It was completely surrounded. So the"}, {"start": "00:26:05", "end": "00:26:08", "text": "choke point is happening right now. We"}, {"start": "00:26:07", "end": "00:26:11", "text": "are about to see it seems like the"}, {"start": "00:26:08", "end": "00:26:14", "text": "endgame in this war. And so you want to"}, {"start": "00:26:11", "end": "00:26:16", "text": "keep US diplomats there like in"}, {"start": "00:26:14", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "embassies and otherwise. There was a"}, {"start": "00:26:16", "end": "00:26:21", "text": "report over the past 24 hours that US"}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:24", "text": "that the US embassy in Ukraine was being"}, {"start": "00:26:21", "end": "00:26:26", "text": "evacuated to which lots of other people"}, {"start": "00:26:24", "end": "00:26:28", "text": "in including community notes were like"}, {"start": "00:26:26", "end": "00:26:30", "text": "no no they're not going anywhere. Oh"}, {"start": "00:26:28", "end": "00:26:33", "text": "good. So then they'll all die. Like if"}, {"start": "00:26:30", "end": "00:26:34", "text": "you've got family, US family that's in"}, {"start": "00:26:33", "end": "00:26:37", "text": "Ukraine right now. And I know there's"}, {"start": "00:26:34", "end": "00:26:39", "text": "lots of CIA as stations across Ukraine."}, {"start": "00:26:37", "end": "00:26:41", "text": "I think more than 10 if I'm not"}, {"start": "00:26:39", "end": "00:26:44", "text": "mistaken."}, {"start": "00:26:41", "end": "00:26:45", "text": "How many of those will survive this"}, {"start": "00:26:44", "end": "00:26:48", "text": "attack?"}, {"start": "00:26:45", "end": "00:26:51", "text": "I don't know. But meanwhile, guess who's"}, {"start": "00:26:48", "end": "00:26:54", "text": "not there? Zalinski got out of his own"}, {"start": "00:26:51", "end": "00:26:58", "text": "country to fly to Sweden in order to try"}, {"start": "00:26:54", "end": "00:27:00", "text": "to shore up additional money and weapons"}, {"start": "00:26:58", "end": "00:27:02", "text": "and getting a massive new weapons"}, {"start": "00:27:00", "end": "00:27:05", "text": "package,"}, {"start": "00:27:02", "end": "00:27:07", "text": "including Griffin fighter jets, which"}, {"start": "00:27:05", "end": "00:27:09", "text": "the he says will make their combat"}, {"start": "00:27:07", "end": "00:27:11", "text": "aviation more effective. By the way,"}, {"start": "00:27:09", "end": "00:27:14", "text": "what pilots do they have left in"}, {"start": "00:27:11", "end": "00:27:17", "text": "Ukraine? It's not going to be Ukrainian"}, {"start": "00:27:14", "end": "00:27:20", "text": "pilots flying flying these jets."}, {"start": "00:27:17", "end": "00:27:22", "text": "It wasn't Ukrainian pilots flying those"}, {"start": "00:27:20", "end": "00:27:26", "text": "jets at the beginning of the war."}, {"start": "00:27:22", "end": "00:27:28", "text": "It was NATO fighters flying those jets."}, {"start": "00:27:26", "end": "00:27:31", "text": "So, what air What pilots do you have"}, {"start": "00:27:28", "end": "00:27:32", "text": "left in Ukraine that can fly fighter"}, {"start": "00:27:31", "end": "00:27:35", "text": "jets?"}, {"start": "00:27:32", "end": "00:27:37", "text": "150 of them. Yeah, the ghost of K. K."}, {"start": "00:27:35", "end": "00:27:38", "text": ">> Is he still around?"}, {"start": "00:27:37", "end": "00:27:40", "text": ">> He was pretty good."}, {"start": "00:27:38", "end": "00:27:42", "text": ">> Like the Red Baron. Remember that story?"}, {"start": "00:27:40", "end": "00:27:44", "text": "This guy, he was taking out Russians"}, {"start": "00:27:42", "end": "00:27:47", "text": "left and right. He's an amazing pilot."}, {"start": "00:27:44", "end": "00:27:50", "text": "Yeah, that story was false."}, {"start": "00:27:47", "end": "00:27:53", "text": "The ghost of Kiev took out a what? He"}, {"start": "00:27:50", "end": "00:27:54", "text": "took out a Russian destroyer."}, {"start": "00:27:53", "end": "00:27:56", "text": ">> Yeah, it was him. Him and the Snake"}, {"start": "00:27:54", "end": "00:28:00", "text": "Island guys. That never happened either."}, {"start": "00:27:56", "end": "00:28:03", "text": ">> Snake Island. The amount of propaganda"}, {"start": "00:28:00", "end": "00:28:07", "text": "so thick. So, here is Zalinsky in Sweden"}, {"start": "00:28:03", "end": "00:28:10", "text": "making a deal for about 80 to 90 billion"}, {"start": "00:28:07", "end": "00:28:12", "text": "dollars in order to get all of these new"}, {"start": "00:28:10", "end": "00:28:14", "text": "aircraft."}, {"start": "00:28:12", "end": "00:28:15", "text": "The moment these aircraft, the experts"}, {"start": "00:28:14", "end": "00:28:17", "text": "we've spoken to on the show, the moment"}, {"start": "00:28:15", "end": "00:28:20", "text": "any of these aircraft have entered the"}, {"start": "00:28:17", "end": "00:28:23", "text": "theater in Ukraine, Russia has destroyed"}, {"start": "00:28:20", "end": "00:28:24", "text": "them. So you think Russia is going to"}, {"start": "00:28:23", "end": "00:28:26", "text": "allow"}, {"start": "00:28:24", "end": "00:28:28", "text": "150 brand new Griffin fighter jets"}, {"start": "00:28:26", "end": "00:28:31", "text": "coming from Sweden to make it into"}, {"start": "00:28:28", "end": "00:28:31", "text": "Ukraine?"}, {"start": "00:28:32", "end": "00:28:36", "text": "Like are you mentally [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:28:34", "end": "00:28:38", "text": "So who this is just one big massive"}, {"start": "00:28:36", "end": "00:28:40", "text": "moneyaundering operation. They're not"}, {"start": "00:28:38", "end": "00:28:41", "text": "Where do you get this money from? And"}, {"start": "00:28:40", "end": "00:28:43", "text": "you're gonna buy these jets that are"}, {"start": "00:28:41", "end": "00:28:46", "text": "never gonna make it into the air. But"}, {"start": "00:28:43", "end": "00:28:46", "text": "here he is. Listen."}, {"start": "00:29:23", "end": "00:29:28", "text": "Minister and the most most most"}, {"start": "00:29:25", "end": "00:29:31", "text": "importantly the aircraft for all of our"}, {"start": "00:29:28", "end": "00:29:34", "text": "pilots, all of our aces that we have in"}, {"start": "00:29:31", "end": "00:29:34", "text": "Ukraine."}, {"start": "00:29:35", "end": "00:29:40", "text": "I mean,"}, {"start": "00:29:37", "end": "00:29:44", "text": "we are living like in an assimulation"}, {"start": "00:29:40", "end": "00:29:44", "text": "where they think you are stupid."}, {"start": "00:29:44", "end": "00:29:50", "text": "Here's Ursula Vanderline playing right"}, {"start": "00:29:47", "end": "00:29:52", "text": "into the false narrative."}, {"start": "00:29:50", "end": "00:29:53", "text": "Congratulations"}, {"start": "00:29:52", "end": "00:29:56", "text": "to the Ukrainian Parliament and"}, {"start": "00:29:53", "end": "00:29:58", "text": "Zalinsk's team for the swift work to"}, {"start": "00:29:56", "end": "00:30:02", "text": "ratify the main documents related to a"}, {"start": "00:29:58", "end": "00:30:04", "text": "$90 billion loan. Great. So now they can"}, {"start": "00:30:02", "end": "00:30:05", "text": "get these dispersements in June so the"}, {"start": "00:30:04", "end": "00:30:09", "text": "money can flow in. They can get these"}, {"start": "00:30:05", "end": "00:30:11", "text": "new aircraft to fight Russia."}, {"start": "00:30:09", "end": "00:30:13", "text": "$90 billion."}, {"start": "00:30:11", "end": "00:30:15", "text": "Ukraine has already given itself"}, {"start": "00:30:13", "end": "00:30:18", "text": "completely away to the International"}, {"start": "00:30:15", "end": "00:30:20", "text": "Monetary Fund, the World Bank. Half of"}, {"start": "00:30:18", "end": "00:30:23", "text": "its country is gone to Black Rockck and"}, {"start": "00:30:20", "end": "00:30:26", "text": "Vanguard. Now Jewish settlements taking"}, {"start": "00:30:23", "end": "00:30:27", "text": "over. Of course they wanted Ukraine to"}, {"start": "00:30:26", "end": "00:30:30", "text": "become the Greater Israel Project, part"}, {"start": "00:30:27", "end": "00:30:31", "text": "of the Greater Israel Project. As"}, {"start": "00:30:30", "end": "00:30:33", "text": "Colonel Douglas McGregor just talked"}, {"start": "00:30:31", "end": "00:30:35", "text": "about today,"}, {"start": "00:30:33", "end": "00:30:38", "text": "Jewish settlements arriving there in"}, {"start": "00:30:35", "end": "00:30:41", "text": "order to take over that land as well. So"}, {"start": "00:30:38", "end": "00:30:44", "text": "what's left of Ukraine? Giving away 90"}, {"start": "00:30:41", "end": "00:30:46", "text": "bill. You can't afford $90 billion."}, {"start": "00:30:44", "end": "00:30:50", "text": "Where are you getting this money from?"}, {"start": "00:30:46", "end": "00:30:50", "text": "You're borrowing it from the EU."}, {"start": "00:30:50", "end": "00:30:54", "text": "You've given away your entire country's"}, {"start": "00:30:52", "end": "00:30:57", "text": "future. It's gone. Not only did you kill"}, {"start": "00:30:54", "end": "00:30:59", "text": "two million people,"}, {"start": "00:30:57", "end": "00:31:02", "text": "you've completely"}, {"start": "00:30:59", "end": "00:31:03", "text": "mortgaged your future gone. But okay,"}, {"start": "00:31:02", "end": "00:31:05", "text": "glad you're going to get those aircraft"}, {"start": "00:31:03", "end": "00:31:07", "text": "that Russia will bomb within 2 minutes"}, {"start": "00:31:05", "end": "00:31:11", "text": "of landing in Ukraine or before they"}, {"start": "00:31:07", "end": "00:31:13", "text": "ever make it there."}, {"start": "00:31:11", "end": "00:31:15", "text": "Meanwhile, what about peace? On the"}, {"start": "00:31:13", "end": "00:31:17", "text": "Russian side, Russia says, \"No, Ukraine"}, {"start": "00:31:15", "end": "00:31:20", "text": "will not talk to us. There's no"}, {"start": "00:31:17", "end": "00:31:22", "text": "discussions at all.\" Representative Paul"}, {"start": "00:31:20", "end": "00:31:24", "text": "Luna posted this just a few minutes ago."}, {"start": "00:31:22", "end": "00:31:26", "text": "says you're now holding up the peace"}, {"start": "00:31:24", "end": "00:31:28", "text": "agreement. Vladimir Zalinsky, it's time"}, {"start": "00:31:26", "end": "00:31:29", "text": "to accept it. Not to mention, you are"}, {"start": "00:31:28", "end": "00:31:31", "text": "refusing to hold elections and your"}, {"start": "00:31:29", "end": "00:31:33", "text": "government funneled money to the United"}, {"start": "00:31:31", "end": "00:31:35", "text": "States sent to Ukraine back into Joe"}, {"start": "00:31:33", "end": "00:31:38", "text": "Biden's re-election campaign. Yes, it's"}, {"start": "00:31:35", "end": "00:31:40", "text": "one big moneyaundering operation."}, {"start": "00:31:38", "end": "00:31:42", "text": "So, I'm glad that senators were flying"}, {"start": "00:31:40", "end": "00:31:44", "text": "in once again. Senators, by the way,"}, {"start": "00:31:42", "end": "00:31:46", "text": "that received hundreds of millions of"}, {"start": "00:31:44", "end": "00:31:48", "text": "hundreds of uh hundreds of thousands of"}, {"start": "00:31:46", "end": "00:31:50", "text": "dollars from the defense contractors as"}, {"start": "00:31:48", "end": "00:31:53", "text": "part of their election campaigns. So"}, {"start": "00:31:50", "end": "00:31:55", "text": "like Senator Blumenthal, lots of money,"}, {"start": "00:31:53", "end": "00:31:56", "text": "lots of money from defense industry."}, {"start": "00:31:55", "end": "00:31:59", "text": "Shocking, right? I know that's probably"}, {"start": "00:31:56", "end": "00:32:01", "text": "a big surprise to you."}, {"start": "00:31:59", "end": "00:32:03", "text": "So you're watching like a psy a psycho a"}, {"start": "00:32:01", "end": "00:32:04", "text": "psychological operation unfolding in"}, {"start": "00:32:03", "end": "00:32:06", "text": "real time right now. Like this is what"}, {"start": "00:32:04", "end": "00:32:08", "text": "they're not telling you. What they're"}, {"start": "00:32:06", "end": "00:32:12", "text": "trying what you're going to start to see"}, {"start": "00:32:08", "end": "00:32:13", "text": "in the mainstream media is, oh, we need"}, {"start": "00:32:12", "end": "00:32:14", "text": "to support Ukraine again. You're going"}, {"start": "00:32:13", "end": "00:32:16", "text": "to start to see maybe Ukrainian flags"}, {"start": "00:32:14", "end": "00:32:18", "text": "showing up in people's bios. you're"}, {"start": "00:32:16", "end": "00:32:21", "text": "going to start to see news reports about"}, {"start": "00:32:18", "end": "00:32:23", "text": "how Ukraine is needs our help because we"}, {"start": "00:32:21", "end": "00:32:26", "text": "got to fight the Russian bear."}, {"start": "00:32:23", "end": "00:32:29", "text": "And sure enough, right on Q, CNN, which"}, {"start": "00:32:26", "end": "00:32:31", "text": "is of course an extension of the CIA,"}, {"start": "00:32:29", "end": "00:32:33", "text": "the mockingb bird media, just did a"}, {"start": "00:32:31", "end": "00:32:37", "text": "whole piece"}, {"start": "00:32:33", "end": "00:32:39", "text": "on how Ukraine is winning against Russia"}, {"start": "00:32:37", "end": "00:32:41", "text": "and why we need to support them now more"}, {"start": "00:32:39", "end": "00:32:45", "text": "than ever to keep the winning going."}, {"start": "00:32:41", "end": "00:32:47", "text": "This is amazing. Watch. Katarina, you"}, {"start": "00:32:45", "end": "00:32:51", "text": "argue that Russia has tried to fight a"}, {"start": "00:32:47", "end": "00:32:54", "text": "war of attrition where they gradually"}, {"start": "00:32:51", "end": "00:32:57", "text": "not just eat up Ukrainian resources but"}, {"start": "00:32:54", "end": "00:32:59", "text": "also weighed out Ukraine and the West."}, {"start": "00:32:57", "end": "00:33:02", "text": "But your report says that's not working."}, {"start": "00:32:59", "end": "00:33:06", "text": "What what what changed to uh to to in"}, {"start": "00:33:02", "end": "00:33:08", "text": "effect undermine that Russian war plan?"}, {"start": "00:33:06", "end": "00:33:10", "text": ">> You're exactly right. The Russian theory"}, {"start": "00:33:08", "end": "00:33:14", "text": "of victory is that the Kremlin"}, {"start": "00:33:10", "end": "00:33:17", "text": "anticipated that it can outlast uh and"}, {"start": "00:33:14", "end": "00:33:20", "text": "out attrit Ukrainian forces essentially"}, {"start": "00:33:17", "end": "00:33:22", "text": "keeping to push um advancing 100 meters"}, {"start": "00:33:20", "end": "00:33:24", "text": "at a time in an effort to paint a"}, {"start": "00:33:22", "end": "00:33:26", "text": "picture that they're actually achieving"}, {"start": "00:33:24", "end": "00:33:26", "text": "victories on the battlefield. Now,"}, {"start": "00:33:26", "end": "00:33:30", "text": "Ukrainians are"}, {"start": "00:33:26", "end": "00:33:32", "text": ">> I mean, just stop. Just stop."}, {"start": "00:33:30", "end": "00:33:35", "text": "The Institute for the Study of War, one"}, {"start": "00:33:32", "end": "00:33:38", "text": "of these think tanks, Jim Skudo from"}, {"start": "00:33:35", "end": "00:33:40", "text": "CNN, who was embedded in Ukraine, lying"}, {"start": "00:33:38", "end": "00:33:41", "text": "to the American people about what was"}, {"start": "00:33:40", "end": "00:33:44", "text": "happening."}, {"start": "00:33:41", "end": "00:33:46", "text": "CNN lying to the American people what"}, {"start": "00:33:44", "end": "00:33:48", "text": "was happening in Ukraine."}, {"start": "00:33:46", "end": "00:33:50", "text": "Okay,"}, {"start": "00:33:48", "end": "00:33:52", "text": "these people are clowns and these people"}, {"start": "00:33:50", "end": "00:33:54", "text": "are an extension of the deep state, the"}, {"start": "00:33:52", "end": "00:33:56", "text": "CIA."}, {"start": "00:33:54", "end": "00:33:58", "text": "And so you have the these psychological"}, {"start": "00:33:56", "end": "00:34:01", "text": "operations now unfolding on the American"}, {"start": "00:33:58", "end": "00:34:03", "text": "people that yeah, Russia's losing, that"}, {"start": "00:34:01", "end": "00:34:06", "text": "Ukraine has been fighting them back. We"}, {"start": "00:34:03", "end": "00:34:08", "text": "heard this for four years ago. Ukraine's"}, {"start": "00:34:06", "end": "00:34:13", "text": "pushing them back."}, {"start": "00:34:08", "end": "00:34:15", "text": "Okay, you've lost 2 million 2 million"}, {"start": "00:34:13", "end": "00:34:16", "text": "soldiers killed, not injured. Not to"}, {"start": "00:34:15", "end": "00:34:19", "text": "mention the hundreds of thousands that"}, {"start": "00:34:16", "end": "00:34:22", "text": "have permanently lost limbs."}, {"start": "00:34:19", "end": "00:34:24", "text": "2 million dead."}, {"start": "00:34:22", "end": "00:34:27", "text": "Now the people that are fighting"}, {"start": "00:34:24", "end": "00:34:30", "text": "scarcely Ukrainians, many of them"}, {"start": "00:34:27", "end": "00:34:34", "text": "foreign mercenaries from Colombia,"}, {"start": "00:34:30", "end": "00:34:34", "text": "France, Poland,"}, {"start": "00:34:35", "end": "00:34:40", "text": "and so you watch CNN, you believe this"}, {"start": "00:34:39", "end": "00:34:43", "text": "garbage."}, {"start": "00:34:40", "end": "00:34:45", "text": "It's I mean it's it's an insult to your"}, {"start": "00:34:43", "end": "00:34:47", "text": "intelligence."}, {"start": "00:34:45", "end": "00:34:50", "text": "And so this war of attrition hasn't"}, {"start": "00:34:47", "end": "00:34:53", "text": "worked for whom?"}, {"start": "00:34:50", "end": "00:34:55", "text": "Zalinsky is literally flying to Sweden"}, {"start": "00:34:53", "end": "00:34:57", "text": "to get more munitions. He literally"}, {"start": "00:34:55", "end": "00:34:59", "text": "posted a video three days ago begging"}, {"start": "00:34:57", "end": "00:35:01", "text": "the West to send more munitions because"}, {"start": "00:34:59", "end": "00:35:03", "text": "we're out of them. What the hell is she"}, {"start": "00:35:01", "end": "00:35:05", "text": "talking about?"}, {"start": "00:35:03", "end": "00:35:08", "text": "An entire generation of young men has"}, {"start": "00:35:05", "end": "00:35:08", "text": "been killed."}, {"start": "00:35:09", "end": "00:35:15", "text": "But Ukraine's winning."}, {"start": "00:35:12", "end": "00:35:18", "text": "Ukraine's winning."}, {"start": "00:35:15", "end": "00:35:20", "text": "These people are absolutely delusional."}, {"start": "00:35:18", "end": "00:35:23", "text": "Meanwhile,"}, {"start": "00:35:20", "end": "00:35:26", "text": "new information about the drone attacks"}, {"start": "00:35:23", "end": "00:35:29", "text": "that killed all of those young girls at"}, {"start": "00:35:26", "end": "00:35:31", "text": "the college in Russia."}, {"start": "00:35:29", "end": "00:35:33", "text": "There they are. All of those girls"}, {"start": "00:35:31", "end": "00:35:36", "text": "killed in the Starblesque attack at that"}, {"start": "00:35:33", "end": "00:35:38", "text": "college. An attack on multiple"}, {"start": "00:35:36", "end": "00:35:40", "text": "buildings. Ukraine says it was an errant"}, {"start": "00:35:38", "end": "00:35:42", "text": "drone that inadvertently struck. No, it"}, {"start": "00:35:40", "end": "00:35:44", "text": "didn't. Multiple drones on attacking"}, {"start": "00:35:42", "end": "00:35:46", "text": "multiple buildings. All intentional and"}, {"start": "00:35:44", "end": "00:35:48", "text": "all done with satellite coordination."}, {"start": "00:35:46", "end": "00:35:50", "text": "And as Russia has pointed out, where did"}, {"start": "00:35:48", "end": "00:35:52", "text": "the satellite coordination come from?"}, {"start": "00:35:50", "end": "00:35:56", "text": "Who was providing it? Who was providing"}, {"start": "00:35:52", "end": "00:36:01", "text": "the telemetry data? Uh the friends of"}, {"start": "00:35:56", "end": "00:36:03", "text": "NATO, the West, arguably MI6."}, {"start": "00:36:01", "end": "00:36:05", "text": "But it turns out according to new"}, {"start": "00:36:03", "end": "00:36:08", "text": "reports out of Russia today that"}, {"start": "00:36:05", "end": "00:36:11", "text": "Palunteer has been deeply in integrated"}, {"start": "00:36:08", "end": "00:36:15", "text": "with Ukraine's military ops for years"}, {"start": "00:36:11", "end": "00:36:18", "text": "helping to shape the policy of"}, {"start": "00:36:15", "end": "00:36:20", "text": "rousophobia in addition to telemetry"}, {"start": "00:36:18", "end": "00:36:23", "text": "data."}, {"start": "00:36:20", "end": "00:36:25", "text": "So the spokesperson Maria Zarakova um"}, {"start": "00:36:23", "end": "00:36:28", "text": "when she was asked whether there was any"}, {"start": "00:36:25", "end": "00:36:31", "text": "US AI company involved in any way tied"}, {"start": "00:36:28", "end": "00:36:34", "text": "to the deadly attack on the college said"}, {"start": "00:36:31", "end": "00:36:35", "text": "that yes this is what they found."}, {"start": "00:36:34", "end": "00:36:38", "text": ">> Since the beginning of the special"}, {"start": "00:36:35", "end": "00:36:40", "text": "military operation volunteer has been"}, {"start": "00:36:38", "end": "00:36:42", "text": "closely working with the KF regime"}, {"start": "00:36:40", "end": "00:36:45", "text": "providing the capabilities of using"}, {"start": "00:36:42", "end": "00:36:47", "text": "artificial intelligence systems in the"}, {"start": "00:36:45", "end": "00:36:50", "text": "interest of Ukraine. It's well known"}, {"start": "00:36:47", "end": "00:36:52", "text": "that company has agreements and"}, {"start": "00:36:50", "end": "00:36:55", "text": "obligations"}, {"start": "00:36:52", "end": "00:36:58", "text": "to the Pentagon as a contractor. The"}, {"start": "00:36:55", "end": "00:37:03", "text": ">> Yeah. So, Palunteer"}, {"start": "00:36:58", "end": "00:37:07", "text": "surprising Palunteer is involved"}, {"start": "00:37:03", "end": "00:37:09", "text": "in the AI targeting. Okay. Of course."}, {"start": "00:37:07", "end": "00:37:11", "text": "And apparently Starlink as well"}, {"start": "00:37:09", "end": "00:37:14", "text": "involved."}, {"start": "00:37:11", "end": "00:37:16", "text": "So, all of that to say, keep your"}, {"start": "00:37:14", "end": "00:37:19", "text": "American diplomats there. Keep your"}, {"start": "00:37:16", "end": "00:37:21", "text": "European diplomats there."}, {"start": "00:37:19", "end": "00:37:23", "text": "Keep a stiff upper lip as these bombs"}, {"start": "00:37:21", "end": "00:37:25", "text": "start raining down on Ukraine over the"}, {"start": "00:37:23", "end": "00:37:27", "text": "next few days, few hours. Who the hell"}, {"start": "00:37:25", "end": "00:37:28", "text": "knows?"}, {"start": "00:37:27", "end": "00:37:30", "text": "But I'm glad the senators are there to"}, {"start": "00:37:28", "end": "00:37:32", "text": "make sure that we're not abandoning"}, {"start": "00:37:30", "end": "00:37:35", "text": "Ukraine in any kind of way. Coming up,"}, {"start": "00:37:32", "end": "00:37:37", "text": "we're going to talk to CIA analyst Larry"}, {"start": "00:37:35", "end": "00:37:38", "text": "Johnson about all of this. He's been"}, {"start": "00:37:37", "end": "00:37:41", "text": "watching it very closely, and he"}, {"start": "00:37:38", "end": "00:37:43", "text": "believes the gloves are been pulled off"}, {"start": "00:37:41", "end": "00:37:45", "text": "on the Russian side, and really shit's"}, {"start": "00:37:43", "end": "00:37:48", "text": "about to hit the fan. We'll talk about"}, {"start": "00:37:45", "end": "00:37:49", "text": "that. Plus Iran with Larry, the very"}, {"start": "00:37:48", "end": "00:37:52", "text": "latest on these the ceasefire or"}, {"start": "00:37:49", "end": "00:37:54", "text": "so-called ceasefire that seems to be"}, {"start": "00:37:52", "end": "00:37:57", "text": "coming to fruition. But it always seems"}, {"start": "00:37:54", "end": "00:37:59", "text": "to happen these like ceasefires like"}, {"start": "00:37:57", "end": "00:38:02", "text": "right before the weekend, you know, and"}, {"start": "00:37:59", "end": "00:38:04", "text": "then all hell breaks loose when there's"}, {"start": "00:38:02", "end": "00:38:06", "text": "no markets open so Trump doesn't have to"}, {"start": "00:38:04", "end": "00:38:08", "text": "worry about the stock market going down"}, {"start": "00:38:06", "end": "00:38:11", "text": "300 points or whatever. So, we'll talk"}, {"start": "00:38:08", "end": "00:38:13", "text": "about that. Uh but first, let's talk"}, {"start": "00:38:11", "end": "00:38:16", "text": "about something fun, shall we? Talk"}, {"start": "00:38:13", "end": "00:38:17", "text": "about some snacks. So, we have Taco"}, {"start": "00:38:16", "end": "00:38:19", "text": "Tuesday here every Tuesday. You're all"}, {"start": "00:38:17", "end": "00:38:21", "text": "invited if you'd like to come. Natalie"}, {"start": "00:38:19", "end": "00:38:23", "text": "makes some mean taco bowls, but we"}, {"start": "00:38:21", "end": "00:38:25", "text": "always put out some masa chips. We love"}, {"start": "00:38:23", "end": "00:38:27", "text": "those chips and the kids love them, too."}, {"start": "00:38:25", "end": "00:38:30", "text": "And they are hearty and they're only"}, {"start": "00:38:27", "end": "00:38:32", "text": "made from three ingredients: corn, salt,"}, {"start": "00:38:30", "end": "00:38:33", "text": "and beef tallow. That's right. They"}, {"start": "00:38:32", "end": "00:38:35", "text": "don't have any of the fillers. They"}, {"start": "00:38:33", "end": "00:38:36", "text": "don't have any of the seed oils that you"}, {"start": "00:38:35", "end": "00:38:38", "text": "get from that other stuff that you buy"}, {"start": "00:38:36", "end": "00:38:40", "text": "at the market. This stuff, no fillers."}, {"start": "00:38:38", "end": "00:38:42", "text": "This is the real deal. They're the"}, {"start": "00:38:40", "end": "00:38:44", "text": "healthy chip. and one of the healthiest"}, {"start": "00:38:42", "end": "00:38:46", "text": "chips you'll ever try. Corn, sea salt,"}, {"start": "00:38:44", "end": "00:38:48", "text": "100% gre grass-fed beef tallow. That's"}, {"start": "00:38:46", "end": "00:38:50", "text": "it. No seed oils, no mystery chemicals,"}, {"start": "00:38:48", "end": "00:38:51", "text": "just real food, the way it was meant to"}, {"start": "00:38:50", "end": "00:38:52", "text": "be. They have a whole variety of"}, {"start": "00:38:51", "end": "00:38:54", "text": "different ones. You can get the lime"}, {"start": "00:38:52", "end": "00:38:56", "text": "ones, the original, which she's holding"}, {"start": "00:38:54", "end": "00:38:59", "text": "right there. Natalie loves those. I like"}, {"start": "00:38:56", "end": "00:39:01", "text": "the white ones. They're the uh um and"}, {"start": "00:38:59", "end": "00:39:03", "text": "that's not me being racist, you know,"}, {"start": "00:39:01", "end": "00:39:06", "text": "against other chips. Like I just happen"}, {"start": "00:39:03", "end": "00:39:09", "text": "to like the white chips. Um, again, not"}, {"start": "00:39:06", "end": "00:39:10", "text": "a racist against other types of tortilla"}, {"start": "00:39:09", "end": "00:39:11", "text": "chips, but the white ones are kind of"}, {"start": "00:39:10", "end": "00:39:12", "text": "like the ones you get at a Mexican"}, {"start": "00:39:11", "end": "00:39:15", "text": "restaurant. They're kind of like"}, {"start": "00:39:12", "end": "00:39:17", "text": "lighter. I like those a lot. Try them."}, {"start": "00:39:15", "end": "00:39:18", "text": "They're delicious and you will love"}, {"start": "00:39:17", "end": "00:39:21", "text": "them. Pick them up. 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So,"}, {"start": "00:39:38", "end": "00:39:43", "text": "masachips.com/redactednews,"}, {"start": "00:39:41", "end": "00:39:45", "text": "get 25% off. Or you can visit the Sprout"}, {"start": "00:39:43", "end": "00:39:48", "text": "Supermarket. They sell on there as well."}, {"start": "00:39:45", "end": "00:39:51", "text": "Thanks to MASA for supporting our show."}, {"start": "00:39:48", "end": "00:39:53", "text": "Big fans of these guys. Well, Europe is"}, {"start": "00:39:51", "end": "00:39:56", "text": "bumbling and stumbling into a potential"}, {"start": "00:39:53", "end": "00:39:57", "text": "large-scale war with Russia. Seems"}, {"start": "00:39:56", "end": "00:39:59", "text": "intentionally, maybe not even bumbling"}, {"start": "00:39:57", "end": "00:40:02", "text": "and stumbling, but intentionally moving"}, {"start": "00:39:59", "end": "00:40:03", "text": "in that direction. And many diplomats,"}, {"start": "00:40:02", "end": "00:40:05", "text": "of course, in Ukraine should get the"}, {"start": "00:40:03", "end": "00:40:06", "text": "hell out now, but they're not. They're"}, {"start": "00:40:05", "end": "00:40:09", "text": "doubling down. We're standing with"}, {"start": "00:40:06", "end": "00:40:10", "text": "Ukraine. Yeah. Until they're killed in a"}, {"start": "00:40:09", "end": "00:40:13", "text": "massive bombing attack, which seems to"}, {"start": "00:40:10", "end": "00:40:14", "text": "be imminent. And Russia's saying as"}, {"start": "00:40:13", "end": "00:40:15", "text": "much. And there's one thing about"}, {"start": "00:40:14", "end": "00:40:16", "text": "Russia. They don't usually bluff. Like,"}, {"start": "00:40:15", "end": "00:40:18", "text": "they usually tell you what they're going"}, {"start": "00:40:16", "end": "00:40:19", "text": "to do and then they do it. And then"}, {"start": "00:40:18", "end": "00:40:21", "text": "everyone's like, \"I can't believe they"}, {"start": "00:40:19", "end": "00:40:22", "text": "did it.\" Well, they just told us they"}, {"start": "00:40:21", "end": "00:40:24", "text": "were going to do it. Why are you"}, {"start": "00:40:22", "end": "00:40:26", "text": "surprised by that? Yeah, but we're used"}, {"start": "00:40:24", "end": "00:40:26", "text": "to lying. So, they just told us they"}, {"start": "00:40:26", "end": "00:40:28", "text": "were going to do it and then they did"}, {"start": "00:40:26", "end": "00:40:31", "text": "it. That seems to be exactly what's"}, {"start": "00:40:28", "end": "00:40:34", "text": "going to happen. Former CIF officer"}, {"start": "00:40:31", "end": "00:40:38", "text": "Larry Johnson says Russia held back from"}, {"start": "00:40:34", "end": "00:40:40", "text": "striking key areas in Kiev"}, {"start": "00:40:38", "end": "00:40:41", "text": "four years ago"}, {"start": "00:40:40", "end": "00:40:43", "text": "specifically. I mean they were"}, {"start": "00:40:41", "end": "00:40:44", "text": "encircled. The city was freaking"}, {"start": "00:40:43", "end": "00:40:48", "text": "encircled. They had one artery out of"}, {"start": "00:40:44", "end": "00:40:50", "text": "the damn city. They held back and now it"}, {"start": "00:40:48", "end": "00:40:52", "text": "seems like the gloves are off. So I'd"}, {"start": "00:40:50", "end": "00:40:54", "text": "like to talk to Larry now about that and"}, {"start": "00:40:52", "end": "00:40:56", "text": "Iran in just moments here. Larry, great"}, {"start": "00:40:54", "end": "00:40:58", "text": "to see you. Welcome back to the show."}, {"start": "00:40:56", "end": "00:41:02", "text": ">> Hey Clayton, good to see you man."}, {"start": "00:40:58", "end": "00:41:05", "text": "Great to see you. So, why do you think"}, {"start": "00:41:02", "end": "00:41:07", "text": "Americans and Europeans are ignoring"}, {"start": "00:41:05", "end": "00:41:09", "text": "these warnings? I mean, you saw Senator"}, {"start": "00:41:07", "end": "00:41:12", "text": "Blumenthal there. We're not going"}, {"start": "00:41:09", "end": "00:41:14", "text": "anywhere. You have US senators who flew"}, {"start": "00:41:12", "end": "00:41:15", "text": "into the capital saying we're, you know,"}, {"start": "00:41:14", "end": "00:41:18", "text": "we're not going to buy into this"}, {"start": "00:41:15", "end": "00:41:20", "text": "bullying and and garbage, this chest"}, {"start": "00:41:18", "end": "00:41:21", "text": "bumping that Russia is making right now."}, {"start": "00:41:20", "end": "00:41:22", "text": "They're not going to attack Kiev. What"}, {"start": "00:41:21", "end": "00:41:24", "text": "do you make of that?"}, {"start": "00:41:22", "end": "00:41:27", "text": ">> Yeah, they've mistaken Russian patience"}, {"start": "00:41:24", "end": "00:41:29", "text": "for Russian weakness. Uh I think the one"}, {"start": "00:41:27", "end": "00:41:34", "text": "of the reasons Russia had not attacked"}, {"start": "00:41:29", "end": "00:41:37", "text": "or or threatened to attack Kev uh the"}, {"start": "00:41:34", "end": "00:41:42", "text": "way they are now uh prior to this point"}, {"start": "00:41:37", "end": "00:41:46", "text": "is Russia was not ready did not have the"}, {"start": "00:41:42", "end": "00:41:50", "text": "full inventory of weapons and personnel"}, {"start": "00:41:46", "end": "00:41:53", "text": "ready to confront NATO. They do now. So"}, {"start": "00:41:50", "end": "00:41:55", "text": "they are in that position. Uh the turn"}, {"start": "00:41:53", "end": "00:41:59", "text": "the shift in this tone started three"}, {"start": "00:41:55", "end": "00:42:00", "text": "weeks ago. Um Ambassador Pansski, Dmitri"}, {"start": "00:41:59", "end": "00:42:04", "text": "Pansky, he used to be the number two guy"}, {"start": "00:42:00", "end": "00:42:06", "text": "at the UN. Uh he was he was sort of my"}, {"start": "00:42:04", "end": "00:42:08", "text": "host and chaperone when I spoke to the"}, {"start": "00:42:06", "end": "00:42:13", "text": "UN Security Council two years ago, three"}, {"start": "00:42:08", "end": "00:42:15", "text": "years ago now. And uh he's a he's a I"}, {"start": "00:42:13", "end": "00:42:18", "text": "call him a quiet professional. He"}, {"start": "00:42:15", "end": "00:42:21", "text": "currently is the Russian ambassador to"}, {"start": "00:42:18", "end": "00:42:23", "text": "the Organization for Security and"}, {"start": "00:42:21", "end": "00:42:26", "text": "Cooperation in Europe. And he came out"}, {"start": "00:42:23", "end": "00:42:29", "text": "on the Danny Davis podcast about 3 weeks"}, {"start": "00:42:26", "end": "00:42:32", "text": "ago and and was the first one to put out"}, {"start": "00:42:29", "end": "00:42:34", "text": "that basically Europe Europe was on the"}, {"start": "00:42:32", "end": "00:42:36", "text": "target list and and Russia was ready to"}, {"start": "00:42:34", "end": "00:42:39", "text": "to hit them because of their support for"}, {"start": "00:42:36", "end": "00:42:41", "text": "these attacks, these terrorist attacks"}, {"start": "00:42:39", "end": "00:42:44", "text": "inside Russia. And let's emphasize, when"}, {"start": "00:42:41", "end": "00:42:47", "text": "you attack civilian targets and you use"}, {"start": "00:42:44", "end": "00:42:48", "text": "violence, that's terrorism. It doesn't"}, {"start": "00:42:47", "end": "00:42:52", "text": "matter whether it's a government doing"}, {"start": "00:42:48", "end": "00:42:54", "text": "it as part of war or not, that is"}, {"start": "00:42:52", "end": "00:42:58", "text": "terrorism. If you're bombing and killing"}, {"start": "00:42:54", "end": "00:43:02", "text": "civilians, whe whether you're uh, you"}, {"start": "00:42:58", "end": "00:43:05", "text": "know, some ISIS, al-Qaeda, or Israel, or"}, {"start": "00:43:02", "end": "00:43:08", "text": "the United States, that is terrorism."}, {"start": "00:43:05", "end": "00:43:09", "text": "And so these attacks have been seen by"}, {"start": "00:43:08", "end": "00:43:12", "text": "Russia as nothing more than pure"}, {"start": "00:43:09", "end": "00:43:15", "text": "terrorism. Two days, 3 days after uh"}, {"start": "00:43:12", "end": "00:43:18", "text": "Ambassador Polansky made his comments,"}, {"start": "00:43:15", "end": "00:43:21", "text": "uh it was re-emphasized by the deputy"}, {"start": "00:43:18", "end": "00:43:24", "text": "foreign minister Sergey Ripkov and and"}, {"start": "00:43:21", "end": "00:43:27", "text": "I've also met uh with Ambassador Ribbof"}, {"start": "00:43:24", "end": "00:43:29", "text": "back in 2023."}, {"start": "00:43:27", "end": "00:43:32", "text": "Uh and then it was uh finalized this"}, {"start": "00:43:29", "end": "00:43:36", "text": "week with uh Sergey Lev's the foreign"}, {"start": "00:43:32", "end": "00:43:39", "text": "minister's comments to Marco Rubio and"}, {"start": "00:43:36", "end": "00:43:43", "text": "he wasn't kidding. And so they're"}, {"start": "00:43:39", "end": "00:43:46", "text": "they're they're giving the West notice."}, {"start": "00:43:43", "end": "00:43:49", "text": "They're giving them time to vacate. And"}, {"start": "00:43:46", "end": "00:43:52", "text": "you know I think again they held off up"}, {"start": "00:43:49", "end": "00:43:54", "text": "to this point because they weren't ready"}, {"start": "00:43:52", "end": "00:43:57", "text": "prepared to go to full full-blown war"}, {"start": "00:43:54", "end": "00:43:59", "text": "with NATO. Now they are I think the"}, {"start": "00:43:57", "end": "00:44:04", "text": "other aspect was they had intelligence"}, {"start": "00:43:59", "end": "00:44:09", "text": "assets in these various uh CIA uh SBU"}, {"start": "00:44:04", "end": "00:44:11", "text": "sites uh defense headquarter sites uh"}, {"start": "00:44:09", "end": "00:44:13", "text": "but now they've had a chance to vacate"}, {"start": "00:44:11", "end": "00:44:17", "text": "them. So th this is this is moving into"}, {"start": "00:44:13", "end": "00:44:19", "text": "a new phase a much more dangerous phase"}, {"start": "00:44:17", "end": "00:44:23", "text": "and this was done at the direction of"}, {"start": "00:44:19", "end": "00:44:26", "text": "Vladimir Putin. you worked at the CIA"}, {"start": "00:44:23", "end": "00:44:29", "text": "getting those assets as you talked about"}, {"start": "00:44:26", "end": "00:44:32", "text": "these spies basically out of so we have"}, {"start": "00:44:29", "end": "00:44:34", "text": "how many we had how many CIA offices in"}, {"start": "00:44:32", "end": "00:44:35", "text": "in Ukraine about eight of them or"}, {"start": "00:44:34", "end": "00:44:37", "text": "something I think"}, {"start": "00:44:35", "end": "00:44:41", "text": ">> I I really I have no idea I just know"}, {"start": "00:44:37", "end": "00:44:43", "text": "that you will have uh you've got the CIA"}, {"start": "00:44:41", "end": "00:44:46", "text": "station and then they have what are"}, {"start": "00:44:43", "end": "00:44:49", "text": "called bases so sort of subsets of that"}, {"start": "00:44:46", "end": "00:44:51", "text": "station and they could be assigned to uh"}, {"start": "00:44:49", "end": "00:44:54", "text": "both the military intelligence, the"}, {"start": "00:44:51", "end": "00:44:55", "text": "civilian intelligence side of the house."}, {"start": "00:44:54", "end": "00:44:58", "text": "They may even be assigned actually to"}, {"start": "00:44:55", "end": "00:45:00", "text": "military units. Um, and then you also"}, {"start": "00:44:58", "end": "00:45:01", "text": "have military advisers. So, it's not"}, {"start": "00:45:00", "end": "00:45:02", "text": "just CIA,"}, {"start": "00:45:01", "end": "00:45:05", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:45:02", "end": "00:45:07", "text": ">> And and this because Russia's warning"}, {"start": "00:45:05", "end": "00:45:10", "text": "was not so much for the diplomats. It"}, {"start": "00:45:07", "end": "00:45:13", "text": "was for all of these secondary personnel"}, {"start": "00:45:10", "end": "00:45:15", "text": "who are providing support to military"}, {"start": "00:45:13", "end": "00:45:18", "text": "operations and intelligence operations."}, {"start": "00:45:15", "end": "00:45:19", "text": "I guess what my point is uh so you've"}, {"start": "00:45:18", "end": "00:45:21", "text": "got I think the New York Times when they"}, {"start": "00:45:19", "end": "00:45:23", "text": "did that bombshell piece which we were"}, {"start": "00:45:21", "end": "00:45:25", "text": "we had already talked about on our show"}, {"start": "00:45:23", "end": "00:45:27", "text": "but two years later they admitted that"}, {"start": "00:45:25", "end": "00:45:29", "text": "the CIA was active in Ukraine and they I"}, {"start": "00:45:27", "end": "00:45:31", "text": "think they I think in that piece they"}, {"start": "00:45:29", "end": "00:45:34", "text": "said I was like five or eight stations"}, {"start": "00:45:31", "end": "00:45:36", "text": "uh throughout Ukraine a big presence but"}, {"start": "00:45:34", "end": "00:45:40", "text": "then you mentioned so then you've got uh"}, {"start": "00:45:36", "end": "00:45:44", "text": "the SBU and so you've got Russian spies"}, {"start": "00:45:40", "end": "00:45:46", "text": "infiltrating obviously CIA SBU"}, {"start": "00:45:44", "end": "00:45:48", "text": ">> when those people. How difficult is it"}, {"start": "00:45:46", "end": "00:45:50", "text": "for those people to leave? Like if if"}, {"start": "00:45:48", "end": "00:45:52", "text": "John suddenly doesn't show up to work,"}, {"start": "00:45:50", "end": "00:45:54", "text": "it's pretty clear that John probably"}, {"start": "00:45:52", "end": "00:45:55", "text": "wasn't working for the CIA. Pretty clear"}, {"start": "00:45:54", "end": "00:45:57", "text": "that John probably is not a member of"}, {"start": "00:45:55", "end": "00:45:59", "text": "the SBU. He's a Russian and he just went"}, {"start": "00:45:57", "end": "00:46:01", "text": "back to Mother Russia cuz something some"}, {"start": "00:45:59", "end": "00:46:03", "text": "shit's about to happen here, I guess."}, {"start": "00:46:01", "end": "00:46:05", "text": "How difficult is it to unpack that?"}, {"start": "00:46:03", "end": "00:46:08", "text": "Well, and and so this gets to"}, {"start": "00:46:05", "end": "00:46:10", "text": "operational trade car trade craft when I"}, {"start": "00:46:08", "end": "00:46:12", "text": "I am certain"}, {"start": "00:46:10", "end": "00:46:13", "text": "Russians haven't briefed me, so I"}, {"start": "00:46:12", "end": "00:46:16", "text": "haven't seen their, you know, behind the"}, {"start": "00:46:13", "end": "00:46:18", "text": "scenes secret information, but you know,"}, {"start": "00:46:16", "end": "00:46:22", "text": "I' I'd wager a whole lot of money that"}, {"start": "00:46:18", "end": "00:46:23", "text": "they they had key sectors of both the"}, {"start": "00:46:22", "end": "00:46:25", "text": "military side of the house, the"}, {"start": "00:46:23", "end": "00:46:27", "text": "intelligence side of the house, the law"}, {"start": "00:46:25", "end": "00:46:28", "text": "enforcement side of the house, the"}, {"start": "00:46:27", "end": "00:46:31", "text": "diplomatic, they had them all"}, {"start": "00:46:28", "end": "00:46:33", "text": "penetrated. that has been the Russians"}, {"start": "00:46:31", "end": "00:46:35", "text": "have been incredible with their"}, {"start": "00:46:33", "end": "00:46:37", "text": "intelligence operations over the years."}, {"start": "00:46:35", "end": "00:46:40", "text": "They had they had the Germans full"}, {"start": "00:46:37", "end": "00:46:42", "text": "during World War II. The head of German"}, {"start": "00:46:40", "end": "00:46:45", "text": "and the Nazi intelligence, a guy named"}, {"start": "00:46:42", "end": "00:46:49", "text": "Reinhardt Galen, uh he thought, man, he"}, {"start": "00:46:45", "end": "00:46:53", "text": "he had penetrated uh the KGB and and it"}, {"start": "00:46:49", "end": "00:46:55", "text": "turned out uh or it was NKVD back then."}, {"start": "00:46:53", "end": "00:46:59", "text": "It turned out uh he was being being"}, {"start": "00:46:55", "end": "00:47:02", "text": "misled by a Soviet source, a Jewish guy"}, {"start": "00:46:59", "end": "00:47:04", "text": "in Yugus then Yugoslavia who claimed to"}, {"start": "00:47:02", "end": "00:47:07", "text": "be this, you know, anti- antis-siet"}, {"start": "00:47:04", "end": "00:47:09", "text": "type. So my point is Russia's got those"}, {"start": "00:47:07", "end": "00:47:11", "text": "assets. You keep those ass you always"}, {"start": "00:47:09", "end": "00:47:13", "text": "have to make a calculation. Is the"}, {"start": "00:47:11", "end": "00:47:16", "text": "information we getting from them more"}, {"start": "00:47:13", "end": "00:47:19", "text": "valuable than if we took this unit out"}, {"start": "00:47:16", "end": "00:47:22", "text": "and and destroyed it? at the where the"}, {"start": "00:47:19", "end": "00:47:24", "text": "where the Russians are now is they've"}, {"start": "00:47:22", "end": "00:47:26", "text": "made that calculation,"}, {"start": "00:47:24", "end": "00:47:28", "text": "we're going to destroy that unit. And so"}, {"start": "00:47:26", "end": "00:47:31", "text": "now, but because of the way this has"}, {"start": "00:47:28", "end": "00:47:34", "text": "been handled in public, it it gives"}, {"start": "00:47:31", "end": "00:47:36", "text": "these these assets a way to not show up"}, {"start": "00:47:34", "end": "00:47:37", "text": "to work without raising suspicion"}, {"start": "00:47:36", "end": "00:47:39", "text": "because everybody's sort of like"}, {"start": "00:47:37", "end": "00:47:41", "text": "nervous. Hey, are we going to get taken"}, {"start": "00:47:39", "end": "00:47:42", "text": "out?"}, {"start": "00:47:41", "end": "00:47:44", "text": ">> What do you think? I want to get to Iran"}, {"start": "00:47:42", "end": "00:47:46", "text": "here in a second before we let you go,"}, {"start": "00:47:44", "end": "00:47:48", "text": "Larry. But what do you think? How"}, {"start": "00:47:46", "end": "00:47:50", "text": "devastating an attack do you think this"}, {"start": "00:47:48", "end": "00:47:52", "text": "is going to be? Do you believe that this"}, {"start": "00:47:50", "end": "00:47:55", "text": "is the endgame, so to speak, that this"}, {"start": "00:47:52", "end": "00:47:57", "text": "is the full-scale Russian invasion that"}, {"start": "00:47:55", "end": "00:47:59", "text": "the West has been saying they've been"}, {"start": "00:47:57", "end": "00:48:01", "text": "beating back for years."}, {"start": "00:47:59", "end": "00:48:04", "text": ">> Yeah. This is let's let's think of it."}, {"start": "00:48:01", "end": "00:48:06", "text": "This is uh this is taking your"}, {"start": "00:48:04", "end": "00:48:09", "text": "windshield wipers from intermittent, you"}, {"start": "00:48:06", "end": "00:48:12", "text": "know, boom boom"}, {"start": "00:48:09", "end": "00:48:13", "text": "boom to high speed. Boom boom boom boom"}, {"start": "00:48:12", "end": "00:48:15", "text": "boom boom boom. That's where it's going"}, {"start": "00:48:13", "end": "00:48:17", "text": "to go. I think it's going to be"}, {"start": "00:48:15", "end": "00:48:18", "text": "intensified attacks. They're going to"}, {"start": "00:48:17", "end": "00:48:22", "text": "lay the groundwork for the Russia is"}, {"start": "00:48:18", "end": "00:48:24", "text": "going to reoccupy and take Kev and then"}, {"start": "00:48:22", "end": "00:48:27", "text": "they will also take Odessa before this"}, {"start": "00:48:24", "end": "00:48:30", "text": "is over. Uh Russia is uh the claims that"}, {"start": "00:48:27", "end": "00:48:32", "text": "Russia's weak and slow and confused and"}, {"start": "00:48:30", "end": "00:48:36", "text": "that's just all Western propaganda,"}, {"start": "00:48:32", "end": "00:48:38", "text": "Western spin. So, I I think the Russians"}, {"start": "00:48:36", "end": "00:48:40", "text": "have made a determination that the this"}, {"start": "00:48:38", "end": "00:48:44", "text": "this special military operation is going"}, {"start": "00:48:40", "end": "00:48:45", "text": "to enter a new level of activity."}, {"start": "00:48:44", "end": "00:48:47", "text": ">> Do you think they're going to install a"}, {"start": "00:48:45", "end": "00:48:49", "text": "puppet government?"}, {"start": "00:48:47", "end": "00:48:50", "text": ">> No, it won't be so much a puppet, but"}, {"start": "00:48:49", "end": "00:48:51", "text": "it'll be a government that will be"}, {"start": "00:48:50", "end": "00:48:54", "text": "Russia."}, {"start": "00:48:51", "end": "00:48:56", "text": ">> Yeah. Respectful of Russia uh of"}, {"start": "00:48:54", "end": "00:48:59", "text": "Russia's uh security, you know. And"}, {"start": "00:48:56", "end": "00:49:01", "text": "look, this isn't People pretend, oh"}, {"start": "00:48:59", "end": "00:49:03", "text": "well, they the West can mount an"}, {"start": "00:49:01", "end": "00:49:06", "text": "insurgency against Russia. They keep"}, {"start": "00:49:03", "end": "00:49:08", "text": "forgetting Russ the the Soviets/Russians"}, {"start": "00:49:06", "end": "00:49:13", "text": "have been through this. They did it in"}, {"start": "00:49:08", "end": "00:49:14", "text": "19 early 1950. CIA and MI6 were were"}, {"start": "00:49:13", "end": "00:49:16", "text": "putting together guerilla groups that"}, {"start": "00:49:14", "end": "00:49:19", "text": "were operating in Ukraine out of the"}, {"start": "00:49:16", "end": "00:49:21", "text": "Bandera faction and it took the the"}, {"start": "00:49:19", "end": "00:49:23", "text": "Russians about five to six years to"}, {"start": "00:49:21", "end": "00:49:28", "text": "crush that. Then there was the Chchin"}, {"start": "00:49:23", "end": "00:49:32", "text": "war 1999 that went on till 2010 that was"}, {"start": "00:49:28", "end": "00:49:35", "text": "westernbacked radical jihadists and the"}, {"start": "00:49:32", "end": "00:49:37", "text": "Russians defeated them and then restored"}, {"start": "00:49:35", "end": "00:49:39", "text": "calm. So you know Russia at least has a"}, {"start": "00:49:37", "end": "00:49:41", "text": "track record of knowing how to deal with"}, {"start": "00:49:39", "end": "00:49:44", "text": "this. It's just you know they'd prefer"}, {"start": "00:49:41", "end": "00:49:46", "text": "not to but when their hands forced they"}, {"start": "00:49:44", "end": "00:49:47", "text": "deal with it."}, {"start": "00:49:46", "end": "00:49:49", "text": "Earlier today, you and I were texting"}, {"start": "00:49:47", "end": "00:49:52", "text": "and you said, you know, we let's let's"}, {"start": "00:49:49", "end": "00:49:55", "text": "talk about this Iranian so-called"}, {"start": "00:49:52", "end": "00:49:59", "text": "ceasefire. Um, I love the the quotes"}, {"start": "00:49:55", "end": "00:50:00", "text": "around so-called. So, six the reports"}, {"start": "00:49:59", "end": "00:50:03", "text": "are, at least over the past few hours,"}, {"start": "00:50:00", "end": "00:50:05", "text": "60-day potential extension of this"}, {"start": "00:50:03", "end": "00:50:08", "text": "ceasefire agreement that President Trump"}, {"start": "00:50:05", "end": "00:50:10", "text": "has to sign off on it. There are reports"}, {"start": "00:50:08", "end": "00:50:12", "text": "coming out of Iran. You can confirm or"}, {"start": "00:50:10", "end": "00:50:13", "text": "deny this, that they're not really"}, {"start": "00:50:12", "end": "00:50:15", "text": "involved in this at all. Sounds like"}, {"start": "00:50:13", "end": "00:50:17", "text": "once again, what do you make of this"}, {"start": "00:50:15", "end": "00:50:20", "text": "latest back and forth 60-day ceasefire?"}, {"start": "00:50:17", "end": "00:50:23", "text": "Is there any truth to it?"}, {"start": "00:50:20", "end": "00:50:28", "text": ">> So, in just uh in just the last, let's"}, {"start": "00:50:23", "end": "00:50:31", "text": "see, 25 minutes, uh the Iranians shot"}, {"start": "00:50:28", "end": "00:50:34", "text": "down an MQ9 drone belonging to the"}, {"start": "00:50:31", "end": "00:50:39", "text": "Americans. It was shot down in the"}, {"start": "00:50:34", "end": "00:50:41", "text": "southern Basher province. Um they uh so"}, {"start": "00:50:39", "end": "00:50:45", "text": "still today for the third consecutive"}, {"start": "00:50:41", "end": "00:50:47", "text": "day there's an exchange of fire between"}, {"start": "00:50:45", "end": "00:50:49", "text": "the United States which which has a"}, {"start": "00:50:47", "end": "00:50:52", "text": "combat air patrol over the area and"}, {"start": "00:50:49", "end": "00:50:55", "text": "Iranians on the ground. Reportedly"}, {"start": "00:50:52", "end": "00:50:57", "text": "yesterday the shots were fired at a US"}, {"start": "00:50:55", "end": "00:50:59", "text": "tanker that was trying to sneak through"}, {"start": "00:50:57", "end": "00:51:02", "text": "the straight of Hormuz. Today the the"}, {"start": "00:50:59", "end": "00:51:05", "text": "Iranians have stopped four more US"}, {"start": "00:51:02", "end": "00:51:07", "text": "ships. So uh they continue to test it."}, {"start": "00:51:05", "end": "00:51:10", "text": "the the the the the the foundation of"}, {"start": "00:51:07", "end": "00:51:12", "text": "what Iran is willing to agree to has not"}, {"start": "00:51:10", "end": "00:51:16", "text": "been agreed to. If if if Scott Besson is"}, {"start": "00:51:12", "end": "00:51:19", "text": "to be believed uh the the Iranians"}, {"start": "00:51:16", "end": "00:51:21", "text": "insist on one of the assets are"}, {"start": "00:51:19", "end": "00:51:24", "text": "unfrozen, not sometime in the future"}, {"start": "00:51:21", "end": "00:51:27", "text": "now. Unfrozen. That the sanctions are"}, {"start": "00:51:24", "end": "00:51:30", "text": "relieved are are ended especially"}, {"start": "00:51:27", "end": "00:51:33", "text": "particularly on oil. that the Straight"}, {"start": "00:51:30", "end": "00:51:37", "text": "of Hormuz will be under uh Iranian"}, {"start": "00:51:33", "end": "00:51:40", "text": "control in tandem with Oman and that"}, {"start": "00:51:37", "end": "00:51:42", "text": "ships will pay an environmental fee just"}, {"start": "00:51:40", "end": "00:51:45", "text": "like they do passing through the dinels"}, {"start": "00:51:42", "end": "00:51:48", "text": "to go in and out of the Black Sea uh"}, {"start": "00:51:45", "end": "00:51:49", "text": "where Turkey is handling that. And"}, {"start": "00:51:48", "end": "00:51:52", "text": "fourth, an end to the war, the war in"}, {"start": "00:51:49", "end": "00:51:54", "text": "Lebanon's got to stop. That means"}, {"start": "00:51:52", "end": "00:51:58", "text": "stopping the killing of Palestinians in"}, {"start": "00:51:54", "end": "00:52:00", "text": "Gaza and West Bank as well. Well, unless"}, {"start": "00:51:58", "end": "00:52:01", "text": "troop unless Trump forces the hand of"}, {"start": "00:52:00", "end": "00:52:02", "text": "the Israelis, that's not going to"}, {"start": "00:52:01", "end": "00:52:05", "text": "happen. And if that doesn't happen,"}, {"start": "00:52:02", "end": "00:52:08", "text": "there is no this ceasefire is not going"}, {"start": "00:52:05", "end": "00:52:12", "text": "to hold. But there is no there is no"}, {"start": "00:52:08", "end": "00:52:15", "text": "agreement to end the fighting at all."}, {"start": "00:52:12", "end": "00:52:17", "text": "They are they're still far apart. Uh"}, {"start": "00:52:15", "end": "00:52:19", "text": "Iran is they made clear what their what"}, {"start": "00:52:17", "end": "00:52:21", "text": "their conditions are. It's it's the"}, {"start": "00:52:19", "end": "00:52:23", "text": "Trump administration that's under the"}, {"start": "00:52:21", "end": "00:52:27", "text": "firm control of the Zionists that's"}, {"start": "00:52:23", "end": "00:52:29", "text": "unwilling to accept those conditions."}, {"start": "00:52:27", "end": "00:52:31", "text": "Once again, and it always seems to"}, {"start": "00:52:29", "end": "00:52:32", "text": "happen on a Thursday or Friday, you"}, {"start": "00:52:31", "end": "00:52:35", "text": "know, right?"}, {"start": "00:52:32", "end": "00:52:38", "text": ">> Hey, just, you know, people who are"}, {"start": "00:52:35", "end": "00:52:39", "text": "playing the derivatives and shorting"}, {"start": "00:52:38", "end": "00:52:41", "text": "stocks, right? They're making they're"}, {"start": "00:52:39", "end": "00:52:44", "text": "making a killing. They are making a"}, {"start": "00:52:41", "end": "00:52:46", "text": "killing."}, {"start": "00:52:44", "end": "00:52:48", "text": ">> Massive massive money-making machine"}, {"start": "00:52:46", "end": "00:52:50", "text": "that this has become for people and a"}, {"start": "00:52:48", "end": "00:52:51", "text": "lot of people are getting rich off of"}, {"start": "00:52:50", "end": "00:52:53", "text": "it."}, {"start": "00:52:51", "end": "00:52:55", "text": ">> Larry, great to see you as always, my"}, {"start": "00:52:53", "end": "00:52:58", "text": "friend. Uh you can read more about"}, {"start": "00:52:55", "end": "00:52:59", "text": "Larry's great work over at Sonar 21."}, {"start": "00:52:58", "end": "00:53:02", "text": "Does some incredible reporting over"}, {"start": "00:52:59", "end": "00:53:03", "text": "there and uh and uh really appreciate"}, {"start": "00:53:02", "end": "00:53:05", "text": "all of your insights as always, Larry."}, {"start": "00:53:03", "end": "00:53:06", "text": "Thank you so much for joining us, man."}, {"start": "00:53:05", "end": "00:53:07", "text": ">> Hey, my friend. I appreciate it. Take"}, {"start": "00:53:06", "end": "00:53:08", "text": "care."}, {"start": "00:53:07", "end": "00:53:09", "text": ">> You bet. Thanks, Larry."}, {"start": "00:53:08", "end": "00:53:10", "text": ">> Bye."}, {"start": "00:53:09", "end": "00:53:12", "text": ">> All right. Coming up, we're going to"}, {"start": "00:53:10", "end": "00:53:14", "text": "talk more about what's going to what is"}, {"start": "00:53:12", "end": "00:53:16", "text": "the economic impact and fallout from"}, {"start": "00:53:14", "end": "00:53:18", "text": "this war with Iran and the closure of"}, {"start": "00:53:16", "end": "00:53:20", "text": "the Straight of Hormuse. Our next guest"}, {"start": "00:53:18", "end": "00:53:22", "text": "has been saying hitting accurate markers"}, {"start": "00:53:20", "end": "00:53:24", "text": "all along about where these things are"}, {"start": "00:53:22", "end": "00:53:25", "text": "heading. And now the mainstream media is"}, {"start": "00:53:24", "end": "00:53:29", "text": "finally catching up to things stories"}, {"start": "00:53:25", "end": "00:53:30", "text": "that he broke months ago. Months ago."}, {"start": "00:53:29", "end": "00:53:34", "text": "And now I love I love when that happens."}, {"start": "00:53:30", "end": "00:53:36", "text": "Like you break a story and then months"}, {"start": "00:53:34", "end": "00:53:38", "text": "later the mainstream media publishes a"}, {"start": "00:53:36", "end": "00:53:41", "text": "story and then suddenly it's like oh"}, {"start": "00:53:38", "end": "00:53:43", "text": "it's real now. Okay. Anyway, we're going"}, {"start": "00:53:41", "end": "00:53:45", "text": "to talk with him. Uh Brandon Wikard in"}, {"start": "00:53:43", "end": "00:53:49", "text": "just a moment about all of that. But"}, {"start": "00:53:45", "end": "00:53:51", "text": "first, summertime expenses in 2026 are"}, {"start": "00:53:49", "end": "00:53:53", "text": "stacking up faster than ever. From those"}, {"start": "00:53:51", "end": "00:53:56", "text": "pricey family vacations, record gas"}, {"start": "00:53:53", "end": "00:53:58", "text": "prices, looming tuition, camp fees."}, {"start": "00:53:56", "end": "00:54:00", "text": "Right now, Americans are swimming in a"}, {"start": "00:53:58", "end": "00:54:02", "text": "cycle of highinterest credit card debt"}, {"start": "00:54:00", "end": "00:54:04", "text": "the likes of which we've never seen in"}, {"start": "00:54:02", "end": "00:54:05", "text": "the United States before. We have hit a"}, {"start": "00:54:04", "end": "00:54:06", "text": "new record. And that's actually what"}, {"start": "00:54:05", "end": "00:54:09", "text": "we're going to talk with Brandon about"}, {"start": "00:54:06", "end": "00:54:12", "text": "here in just a moment. Americans are"}, {"start": "00:54:09", "end": "00:54:15", "text": "suffering big time. Homeowners, American"}, {"start": "00:54:12", "end": "00:54:17", "text": "financing has a way out. And guess what?"}, {"start": "00:54:15", "end": "00:54:19", "text": "They are salarybased consultants. So"}, {"start": "00:54:17", "end": "00:54:21", "text": "that means they work for you. They don't"}, {"start": "00:54:19", "end": "00:54:22", "text": "work for the big banks. So this isn't"}, {"start": "00:54:21", "end": "00:54:24", "text": "about shortcuts. It's a real strategic"}, {"start": "00:54:22", "end": "00:54:26", "text": "plan to reset your finan finances and"}, {"start": "00:54:24", "end": "00:54:28", "text": "reclaim your budget. At American"}, {"start": "00:54:26", "end": "00:54:30", "text": "Financing, they specialize in building"}, {"start": "00:54:28", "end": "00:54:32", "text": "plans tailored specifically to your"}, {"start": "00:54:30", "end": "00:54:33", "text": "goals. They look at your current debt"}, {"start": "00:54:32", "end": "00:54:35", "text": "and they show you exactly how your"}, {"start": "00:54:33", "end": "00:54:37", "text": "home's equity can work smarter for you."}, {"start": "00:54:35", "end": "00:54:39", "text": "It's a strategy that I've used for"}, {"start": "00:54:37", "end": "00:54:41", "text": "years. I always say you cannot eat"}, {"start": "00:54:39", "end": "00:54:42", "text": "equity. If you got a house and you've"}, {"start": "00:54:41", "end": "00:54:44", "text": "got equity in it, especially if you"}, {"start": "00:54:42", "end": "00:54:46", "text": "bought that house before the year 2020,"}, {"start": "00:54:44", "end": "00:54:48", "text": "you're sitting on equity. You can't do"}, {"start": "00:54:46", "end": "00:54:50", "text": "anything with it. You can't eat it. So"}, {"start": "00:54:48", "end": "00:54:52", "text": "then use it. It's just another financial"}, {"start": "00:54:50", "end": "00:54:53", "text": "vehicle in order for you to pay off high"}, {"start": "00:54:52", "end": "00:54:56", "text": "interest debt. So if you've got credit"}, {"start": "00:54:53", "end": "00:55:00", "text": "card debt that's like 22% and you can"}, {"start": "00:54:56", "end": "00:55:02", "text": "get uh you can get a home equity loan"}, {"start": "00:55:00", "end": "00:55:04", "text": "through American Financing to pay it all"}, {"start": "00:55:02", "end": "00:55:07", "text": "off and to use it to actually invest in"}, {"start": "00:55:04", "end": "00:55:09", "text": "other things. That's very smart. That's"}, {"start": "00:55:07", "end": "00:55:11", "text": "trading one financial product for"}, {"start": "00:55:09", "end": "00:55:14", "text": "another. I've been doing it for decades."}, {"start": "00:55:11", "end": "00:55:16", "text": "It's a brilliant strategy and it works."}, {"start": "00:55:14", "end": "00:55:20", "text": "American Financing, America's home for"}, {"start": "00:55:16", "end": "00:55:20", "text": "home loans. 866898434."}, {"start": "00:55:20", "end": "00:55:24", "text": "That's 866898434."}, {"start": "00:55:22", "end": "00:55:26", "text": "Call them today or visit"}, {"start": "00:55:24", "end": "00:55:30", "text": "americananfinancing.net/redacted."}, {"start": "00:55:26", "end": "00:55:32", "text": "You might be able to save up to uh $800"}, {"start": "00:55:30", "end": "00:55:35", "text": "a month. That's right. And maybe even"}, {"start": "00:55:32", "end": "00:55:37", "text": "save two mortgage payments just by"}, {"start": "00:55:35", "end": "00:55:41", "text": "calling them today. give them a call and"}, {"start": "00:55:37", "end": "00:55:44", "text": "they can help. All right. Well, is there"}, {"start": "00:55:41", "end": "00:55:47", "text": "a deal or no deal? Deal or no deal in"}, {"start": "00:55:44", "end": "00:55:49", "text": "Iran? And what will the economic fallout"}, {"start": "00:55:47", "end": "00:55:52", "text": "be realistically here? Because we've"}, {"start": "00:55:49", "end": "00:55:54", "text": "been in this like artificial fake paper"}, {"start": "00:55:52", "end": "00:55:56", "text": "world for quite a while now. Americans"}, {"start": "00:55:54", "end": "00:55:58", "text": "are feeling it at the pump, of course."}, {"start": "00:55:56", "end": "00:56:00", "text": "But at some point, all of this fake"}, {"start": "00:55:58", "end": "00:56:02", "text": "paper, the covering over, it's almost"}, {"start": "00:56:00", "end": "00:56:05", "text": "like putting up wallpaper over some"}, {"start": "00:56:02", "end": "00:56:07", "text": "really bad stuff, like black mold on"}, {"start": "00:56:05", "end": "00:56:09", "text": "your wall, and you just put up wallpaper"}, {"start": "00:56:07", "end": "00:56:11", "text": "over top of it. Eventually, you're going"}, {"start": "00:56:09", "end": "00:56:12", "text": "to get sick. Eventually, you could wind"}, {"start": "00:56:11", "end": "00:56:14", "text": "up in the hospital. And that's where we"}, {"start": "00:56:12", "end": "00:56:17", "text": "are right now. The American economy is"}, {"start": "00:56:14", "end": "00:56:19", "text": "nearing that point. Brandon Wikard, host"}, {"start": "00:56:17", "end": "00:56:22", "text": "of the NATSC podcast. He's been nailing"}, {"start": "00:56:19", "end": "00:56:24", "text": "this for months now, not only on our"}, {"start": "00:56:22", "end": "00:56:26", "text": "show, but back on Tucker's show and"}, {"start": "00:56:24", "end": "00:56:28", "text": "otherwise, and then the mainstream media"}, {"start": "00:56:26", "end": "00:56:29", "text": "comes out a few months later and then"}, {"start": "00:56:28", "end": "00:56:32", "text": "prints it and then suddenly it's real."}, {"start": "00:56:29", "end": "00:56:34", "text": "Like, it's so amazing how you, you know,"}, {"start": "00:56:32", "end": "00:56:36", "text": "now that the mainstream media has"}, {"start": "00:56:34", "end": "00:56:37", "text": "covered it, it's real news. But when"}, {"start": "00:56:36", "end": "00:56:39", "text": "Brandon covered it and broke the story"}, {"start": "00:56:37", "end": "00:56:40", "text": "two months earlier, they ignored it."}, {"start": "00:56:39", "end": "00:56:41", "text": "Brandon, great to see you. Welcome back"}, {"start": "00:56:40", "end": "00:56:42", "text": "to the show."}, {"start": "00:56:41", "end": "00:56:44", "text": ">> Well, thanks for having me. And that was"}, {"start": "00:56:42", "end": "00:56:46", "text": "a great segment with my buddy uh Larry"}, {"start": "00:56:44", "end": "00:56:49", "text": "Johnson. And I'll just plug it here."}, {"start": "00:56:46", "end": "00:56:51", "text": "he's going to be on my show Monday. Uh"}, {"start": "00:56:49", "end": "00:56:54", "text": "so it was a lovely pre preview. Thank"}, {"start": "00:56:51", "end": "00:56:57", "text": "you for for letting me hear that. Um but"}, {"start": "00:56:54", "end": "00:57:00", "text": "uh you know we in the media, you and I"}, {"start": "00:56:57", "end": "00:57:02", "text": "as I think safe to say described at one"}, {"start": "00:57:00", "end": "00:57:05", "text": "time as reporters uh covered different"}, {"start": "00:57:02", "end": "00:57:07", "text": "beats, but uh you know we used to think"}, {"start": "00:57:05", "end": "00:57:10", "text": "I used to think you get a big story and"}, {"start": "00:57:07", "end": "00:57:14", "text": "you break it. That's like the big you"}, {"start": "00:57:10", "end": "00:57:16", "text": "know big moment. And lately, for several"}, {"start": "00:57:14", "end": "00:57:19", "text": "years, it seems I get a lot of big"}, {"start": "00:57:16", "end": "00:57:21", "text": "stories. I break it. You know, it gets"}, {"start": "00:57:19", "end": "00:57:23", "text": "traction, but it's not like what you"}, {"start": "00:57:21", "end": "00:57:24", "text": "think it's going to be because they"}, {"start": "00:57:23", "end": "00:57:27", "text": "ignore it. And by they, I mean the"}, {"start": "00:57:24", "end": "00:57:30", "text": "corporate media. I mean the official"}, {"start": "00:57:27", "end": "00:57:32", "text": "organs of state. It's like uh you know"}, {"start": "00:57:30", "end": "00:57:34", "text": "the the tree falls and no one hears it."}, {"start": "00:57:32", "end": "00:57:37", "text": "Turns out they're listening. It's just"}, {"start": "00:57:34", "end": "00:57:40", "text": "not conveniently timed for their"}, {"start": "00:57:37", "end": "00:57:42", "text": "narrative control. So they wait. Uh, and"}, {"start": "00:57:40", "end": "00:57:44", "text": "this information that's now being broke,"}, {"start": "00:57:42", "end": "00:57:48", "text": "as you rightly said, is months months"}, {"start": "00:57:44", "end": "00:57:50", "text": "old. Uh, and it's sort of useless now."}, {"start": "00:57:48", "end": "00:57:52", "text": "This information, if if they if they had"}, {"start": "00:57:50", "end": "00:57:55", "text": "been talking about it and they had been"}, {"start": "00:57:52", "end": "00:57:57", "text": "promoting what I was saying back at the"}, {"start": "00:57:55", "end": "00:57:59", "text": "end of February, beginning of March,"}, {"start": "00:57:57", "end": "00:58:01", "text": "that might have made a difference on the"}, {"start": "00:57:59", "end": "00:58:04", "text": "policy level. It might have actually"}, {"start": "00:58:01", "end": "00:58:07", "text": "influenced things for the better. Uh but"}, {"start": "00:58:04", "end": "00:58:09", "text": "ultimately they chose to sit on the"}, {"start": "00:58:07", "end": "00:58:11", "text": "story and wait until it was, you know,"}, {"start": "00:58:09", "end": "00:58:14", "text": "no longer helpful. Now it's just sort of"}, {"start": "00:58:11", "end": "00:58:16", "text": "a uh afterthought. And uh I think that's"}, {"start": "00:58:14", "end": "00:58:18", "text": "one of the most depressing aspects for"}, {"start": "00:58:16", "end": "00:58:20", "text": "me personally about how the news media"}, {"start": "00:58:18", "end": "00:58:22", "text": "works today. It's not news, it's"}, {"start": "00:58:20", "end": "00:58:25", "text": "narrative control. And it's having a"}, {"start": "00:58:22", "end": "00:58:28", "text": "real negative impact because the news is"}, {"start": "00:58:25", "end": "00:58:29", "text": "there to speak truth to power publicly."}, {"start": "00:58:28", "end": "00:58:31", "text": "Uh and they're not doing that anymore."}, {"start": "00:58:29", "end": "00:58:34", "text": "They're carrying water for even now"}, {"start": "00:58:31", "end": "00:58:36", "text": "Trump, which is surprising to see these"}, {"start": "00:58:34", "end": "00:58:37", "text": "media people doing, but they're clearly,"}, {"start": "00:58:36", "end": "00:58:39", "text": "you know, wedded to this agenda in the"}, {"start": "00:58:37", "end": "00:58:41", "text": "Middle East and they don't want to see"}, {"start": "00:58:39", "end": "00:58:43", "text": "any kind of, you know, threat to it,"}, {"start": "00:58:41", "end": "00:58:43", "text": "which is what what I pose to them,"}, {"start": "00:58:43", "end": "00:58:45", "text": "obviously."}, {"start": "00:58:43", "end": "00:58:46", "text": ">> So, at the heart of it, well, one of the"}, {"start": "00:58:45", "end": "00:58:48", "text": "pieces I want to talk about the economy"}, {"start": "00:58:46", "end": "00:58:49", "text": "and the economic piece of this, which"}, {"start": "00:58:48", "end": "00:58:52", "text": "you've been all over, but one of the"}, {"start": "00:58:49", "end": "00:58:54", "text": "pieces is this military uh and the use"}, {"start": "00:58:52", "end": "00:58:55", "text": "of weapons here and the and and how"}, {"start": "00:58:54", "end": "00:58:57", "text": "we've blown through these weapons. Now,"}, {"start": "00:58:55", "end": "00:58:59", "text": "you broke this story back on Tucker's"}, {"start": "00:58:57", "end": "00:59:01", "text": "show a couple of months ago. And Philip,"}, {"start": "00:58:59", "end": "00:59:04", "text": "maybe we can put up this uh graphic here"}, {"start": "00:59:01", "end": "00:59:08", "text": "if we have it handy showing the number"}, {"start": "00:59:04", "end": "00:59:11", "text": "of US uh uh THAAD missile systems and"}, {"start": "00:59:08", "end": "00:59:13", "text": "otherwise that Sager so Sager posted"}, {"start": "00:59:11", "end": "00:59:15", "text": "this today, but you know it's and he"}, {"start": "00:59:13", "end": "00:59:17", "text": "says it will take five plus years to"}, {"start": "00:59:15", "end": "00:59:20", "text": "replace 39 days of munitions used in the"}, {"start": "00:59:17", "end": "00:59:22", "text": "Iran war. What an absolute disaster. And"}, {"start": "00:59:20", "end": "00:59:25", "text": "of course, you broke this story back I"}, {"start": "00:59:22", "end": "00:59:26", "text": "think on Tucker's show. that was correct"}, {"start": "00:59:25", "end": "00:59:28", "text": "a number of months ago that the United"}, {"start": "00:59:26", "end": "00:59:30", "text": "States blew through all of these weapon"}, {"start": "00:59:28", "end": "00:59:32", "text": "systems and so when you see these pauses"}, {"start": "00:59:30", "end": "00:59:34", "text": "that we currently see or a 60-day"}, {"start": "00:59:32", "end": "00:59:36", "text": "extension and all of this"}, {"start": "00:59:34", "end": "00:59:38", "text": ">> I mean what and we're going to go back"}, {"start": "00:59:36", "end": "00:59:40", "text": "to fighting with what we you have"}, {"start": "00:59:38", "end": "00:59:42", "text": "Senator Blumenthal in in the middle of"}, {"start": "00:59:40", "end": "00:59:44", "text": "Ukraine today saying that we've got your"}, {"start": "00:59:42", "end": "00:59:46", "text": "back in what format we don't have the"}, {"start": "00:59:44", "end": "00:59:47", "text": "weapons to send to Ukraine what do we"}, {"start": "00:59:46", "end": "00:59:49", "text": "have"}, {"start": "00:59:47", "end": "00:59:52", "text": ">> well I'll start at the back first the"}, {"start": "00:59:49", "end": "00:59:54", "text": "the Ukraine thing uh we we are not going"}, {"start": "00:59:52", "end": "00:59:56", "text": "to have their back uh if there's any"}, {"start": "00:59:54", "end": "00:59:58", "text": "silver lining in any of this, it's that"}, {"start": "00:59:56", "end": "01:00:01", "text": "we've blown through so many systems so"}, {"start": "00:59:58", "end": "01:00:04", "text": "quickly that are really I mean they say"}, {"start": "01:00:01", "end": "01:00:06", "text": "five or more years. I would say these"}, {"start": "01:00:04", "end": "01:00:08", "text": "systems are irreplaceable because I"}, {"start": "01:00:06", "end": "01:00:09", "text": "responded to Sager, our mutual friend,"}, {"start": "01:00:08", "end": "01:00:12", "text": "and I said that's the best case"}, {"start": "01:00:09", "end": "01:00:15", "text": "scenario. You need to have access to"}, {"start": "01:00:12", "end": "01:00:17", "text": "China's rare earth minerals in order for"}, {"start": "01:00:15", "end": "01:00:19", "text": "us to even begin replenishing these lost"}, {"start": "01:00:17", "end": "01:00:21", "text": "weapons. And guess what? China's not"}, {"start": "01:00:19", "end": "01:00:25", "text": "letting us gain access to what they're"}, {"start": "01:00:21", "end": "01:00:26", "text": "calling dual use rare earth minerals."}, {"start": "01:00:25", "end": "01:00:28", "text": "So, I don't actually think we're ever"}, {"start": "01:00:26", "end": "01:00:30", "text": "going to replenish these weapons in any"}, {"start": "01:00:28", "end": "01:00:32", "text": "meaningful way. So, the silver lining"}, {"start": "01:00:30", "end": "01:00:34", "text": "here is that when it comes to Ukraine,"}, {"start": "01:00:32", "end": "01:00:37", "text": "the president has never fully bought"}, {"start": "01:00:34", "end": "01:00:39", "text": "into Biden's war there. He's sort of let"}, {"start": "01:00:37", "end": "01:00:41", "text": "it continue on, but he's never he hasn't"}, {"start": "01:00:39", "end": "01:00:44", "text": "really gone full boore the way Biden did"}, {"start": "01:00:41", "end": "01:00:46", "text": "in Ukraine. And so I think he's already"}, {"start": "01:00:44", "end": "01:00:50", "text": "using this as an excuse behind the"}, {"start": "01:00:46", "end": "01:00:52", "text": "scenes, the president is to justify not"}, {"start": "01:00:50", "end": "01:00:53", "text": "uh sending any more aid because we"}, {"start": "01:00:52", "end": "01:00:55", "text": "frankly can't send anymore. We don't"}, {"start": "01:00:53", "end": "01:00:56", "text": "have anything left to give. In fact,"}, {"start": "01:00:55", "end": "01:00:59", "text": "you're seeing with the exception of"}, {"start": "01:00:56", "end": "01:01:01", "text": "those 5,000 troops in Poland, which is"}, {"start": "01:00:59", "end": "01:01:04", "text": "more of a personal favor to the new"}, {"start": "01:01:01", "end": "01:01:07", "text": "president there who's a Trump ally, um"}, {"start": "01:01:04", "end": "01:01:11", "text": "the the president is overseeing the"}, {"start": "01:01:07", "end": "01:01:14", "text": "dismantling uh of US presence in Europe"}, {"start": "01:01:11", "end": "01:01:16", "text": "at this very very important juncture uh"}, {"start": "01:01:14", "end": "01:01:19", "text": "in the Ukraine war. So in my opinion,"}, {"start": "01:01:16", "end": "01:01:22", "text": "the upside to this depletion narrative"}, {"start": "01:01:19", "end": "01:01:24", "text": "uh is that we will not be able and we"}, {"start": "01:01:22", "end": "01:01:26", "text": "will not be willing to provide any"}, {"start": "01:01:24", "end": "01:01:28", "text": "material support anymore to Ukraine,"}, {"start": "01:01:26", "end": "01:01:32", "text": "which is good for us, not good for the"}, {"start": "01:01:28", "end": "01:01:34", "text": "Ukrainians. Uh but it's good for us. Uh"}, {"start": "01:01:32", "end": "01:01:36", "text": "as for the other side of the story, good"}, {"start": "01:01:34", "end": "01:01:37", "text": "for the Ukrainians because that means"}, {"start": "01:01:36", "end": "01:01:39", "text": "they're done. Like let's"}, {"start": "01:01:37", "end": "01:01:40", "text": ">> Well, I should say I should say right go"}, {"start": "01:01:39", "end": "01:01:41", "text": "home. We're done."}, {"start": "01:01:40", "end": "01:01:42", "text": ">> That's right. the Ukrainian regime, I"}, {"start": "01:01:41", "end": "01:01:44", "text": "should say, is not good for the"}, {"start": "01:01:42", "end": "01:01:47", "text": "Ukrainian regime, which we've poured"}, {"start": "01:01:44", "end": "01:01:50", "text": "endless amounts of our money into. Um,"}, {"start": "01:01:47", "end": "01:01:51", "text": "we should not have uh but you know, so"}, {"start": "01:01:50", "end": "01:01:54", "text": "from the Ukraine angle, this actually"}, {"start": "01:01:51", "end": "01:01:57", "text": "might be good. Um the downside of course"}, {"start": "01:01:54", "end": "01:02:00", "text": "is in terms of not just those precisiong"}, {"start": "01:01:57", "end": "01:02:02", "text": "guided offensive munitions, the air"}, {"start": "01:02:00", "end": "01:02:06", "text": "defense interceptors which we have"}, {"start": "01:02:02", "end": "01:02:08", "text": "relied heavily uh to protect both our"}, {"start": "01:02:06", "end": "01:02:11", "text": "bases in the Middle East but also we've"}, {"start": "01:02:08", "end": "01:02:14", "text": "used it excessively. In fact, I was told"}, {"start": "01:02:11", "end": "01:02:16", "text": "yesterday by a source that the Israelis"}, {"start": "01:02:14", "end": "01:02:19", "text": "were astounded throughout the course of"}, {"start": "01:02:16", "end": "01:02:22", "text": "the war because we used more of our air"}, {"start": "01:02:19", "end": "01:02:26", "text": "defense interceptors to to protect"}, {"start": "01:02:22", "end": "01:02:28", "text": "Israeli uh targets uh than the Israelis"}, {"start": "01:02:26", "end": "01:02:30", "text": "themselves used. And uh we used we"}, {"start": "01:02:28", "end": "01:02:34", "text": "actually were diverting the air defense"}, {"start": "01:02:30", "end": "01:02:36", "text": "systems away from our bases in the"}, {"start": "01:02:34", "end": "01:02:38", "text": "Middle East in those Arab states. We"}, {"start": "01:02:36", "end": "01:02:40", "text": "were diverting them to Israel to protect"}, {"start": "01:02:38", "end": "01:02:42", "text": "Israel. And the Israelis weren't even"}, {"start": "01:02:40", "end": "01:02:44", "text": "using theirs the way we were. One IDF"}, {"start": "01:02:42", "end": "01:02:47", "text": "general apparently quipped to the source"}, {"start": "01:02:44", "end": "01:02:49", "text": "that I have over there. He said in"}, {"start": "01:02:47", "end": "01:02:51", "text": "March, he quipped to his team, he"}, {"start": "01:02:49", "end": "01:02:53", "text": "couldn't believe how wasteful the"}, {"start": "01:02:51", "end": "01:02:55", "text": "Americans were with their limited stock"}, {"start": "01:02:53", "end": "01:02:57", "text": "piles of air defense systems. So even"}, {"start": "01:02:55", "end": "01:02:59", "text": "the Israelis were saying, \"What are the"}, {"start": "01:02:57", "end": "01:03:01", "text": "Americans thinking?\" Uh, you know,"}, {"start": "01:02:59", "end": "01:03:03", "text": "blowing through these stockpiles that"}, {"start": "01:03:01", "end": "01:03:05", "text": "they don't really have a lot of to"}, {"start": "01:03:03", "end": "01:03:08", "text": "protect us. They weren't even protecting"}, {"start": "01:03:05", "end": "01:03:10", "text": "the American bases. Uh so anyway, uh my"}, {"start": "01:03:08", "end": "01:03:13", "text": "point is is that we're not going to see"}, {"start": "01:03:10", "end": "01:03:15", "text": "these weapons coming back anytime soon"}, {"start": "01:03:13", "end": "01:03:17", "text": "because we don't have access to the rare"}, {"start": "01:03:15", "end": "01:03:19", "text": "earth minerals and therefore there's no"}, {"start": "01:03:17", "end": "01:03:21", "text": "replenishment. So they're gone now. And"}, {"start": "01:03:19", "end": "01:03:23", "text": "what does that mean at the larger level?"}, {"start": "01:03:21", "end": "01:03:26", "text": "A lot of these weapons are essential for"}, {"start": "01:03:23", "end": "01:03:28", "text": "the US to if something were to happen"}, {"start": "01:03:26", "end": "01:03:29", "text": "and I'm not saying it is. If something"}, {"start": "01:03:28", "end": "01:03:32", "text": "were to happen though in the"}, {"start": "01:03:29", "end": "01:03:35", "text": "Indo-Pacific with a war with China over"}, {"start": "01:03:32", "end": "01:03:38", "text": "the you know Taiwan or war between China"}, {"start": "01:03:35", "end": "01:03:41", "text": "and Japan or war between China and the"}, {"start": "01:03:38", "end": "01:03:44", "text": "Philippines or some conflict, we would"}, {"start": "01:03:41", "end": "01:03:47", "text": "require the air defense systems and the"}, {"start": "01:03:44", "end": "01:03:49", "text": "precisiong guided standoff munitions to"}, {"start": "01:03:47", "end": "01:03:51", "text": "have any chance of protecting ourselves"}, {"start": "01:03:49", "end": "01:03:54", "text": "or rolling back whatever the Chinese are"}, {"start": "01:03:51", "end": "01:03:58", "text": "up to. And those systems are now in"}, {"start": "01:03:54", "end": "01:04:00", "text": "finite supply. They will not be tasked,"}, {"start": "01:03:58", "end": "01:04:02", "text": "I think, to any contingency because"}, {"start": "01:04:00", "end": "01:04:04", "text": "there's not enough of them and we can't"}, {"start": "01:04:02", "end": "01:04:05", "text": "replenish them because the Chinese are"}, {"start": "01:04:04", "end": "01:04:06", "text": "sitting on the rare earth minerals."}, {"start": "01:04:05", "end": "01:04:08", "text": ">> You're absolutely right about that. I"}, {"start": "01:04:06", "end": "01:04:10", "text": "mean, and we outsourced all of our"}, {"start": "01:04:08", "end": "01:04:13", "text": "mining. I mean, you know, under Obama"}, {"start": "01:04:10", "end": "01:04:14", "text": "and and Biden um and Clinton."}, {"start": "01:04:13", "end": "01:04:17", "text": ">> The key thing The key thing is the"}, {"start": "01:04:14", "end": "01:04:19", "text": "processing and we I know one of my"}, {"start": "01:04:17", "end": "01:04:21", "text": "regular guests on my show is a a guy"}, {"start": "01:04:19", "end": "01:04:24", "text": "named Dan Collins who who still has"}, {"start": "01:04:21", "end": "01:04:27", "text": "factories in China and Taiwan related to"}, {"start": "01:04:24", "end": "01:04:29", "text": "rare earths. And he told me because he"}, {"start": "01:04:27", "end": "01:04:30", "text": "started out when he graduated from"}, {"start": "01:04:29", "end": "01:04:34", "text": "college, he started out at the"}, {"start": "01:04:30", "end": "01:04:37", "text": "processing facility in Gan uh or Cooko"}, {"start": "01:04:34", "end": "01:04:40", "text": "rather, Indiana. And in the 80s and 90s,"}, {"start": "01:04:37", "end": "01:04:42", "text": "we moved that original rare earth"}, {"start": "01:04:40", "end": "01:04:44", "text": "mineral price processing factory. We"}, {"start": "01:04:42", "end": "01:04:46", "text": "uprooted it and sent it, I believe, to"}, {"start": "01:04:44", "end": "01:04:49", "text": "Tanzhin, China, where the Chinese"}, {"start": "01:04:46", "end": "01:04:52", "text": "expanded it and now have an entire"}, {"start": "01:04:49", "end": "01:04:54", "text": "infrastructure for global rare earth"}, {"start": "01:04:52", "end": "01:04:56", "text": "mining. We in the United States have no"}, {"start": "01:04:54", "end": "01:04:58", "text": "rare earth mining because we've deemed"}, {"start": "01:04:56", "end": "01:05:00", "text": "it a threat to the environment. So,"}, {"start": "01:04:58", "end": "01:05:03", "text": "we've outsourced it. We created the"}, {"start": "01:05:00", "end": "01:05:05", "text": "process in Cookamo, Indiana, and then we"}, {"start": "01:05:03", "end": "01:05:07", "text": "shipped it over to China, and they used"}, {"start": "01:05:05", "end": "01:05:09", "text": "it to create the world's greatest choke"}, {"start": "01:05:07", "end": "01:05:11", "text": "point in the uh uh rare earth mineral"}, {"start": "01:05:09", "end": "01:05:13", "text": "supply chain. It's the processing that's"}, {"start": "01:05:11", "end": "01:05:15", "text": "key. That's what China has all the"}, {"start": "01:05:13", "end": "01:05:17", "text": "leverage on us in. Well, and one of the"}, {"start": "01:05:15", "end": "01:05:20", "text": "great hypocrisies of the Ukraine war is"}, {"start": "01:05:17", "end": "01:05:22", "text": "that we were still relying on Russia for"}, {"start": "01:05:20", "end": "01:05:24", "text": "our uranium enrichment. Like, we'll"}, {"start": "01:05:22", "end": "01:05:26", "text": "sanction everything else,"}, {"start": "01:05:24", "end": "01:05:27", "text": ">> but we still need your uranium. So, you"}, {"start": "01:05:26", "end": "01:05:29", "text": "know what? We'll just leave that as a"}, {"start": "01:05:27", "end": "01:05:30", "text": "little carve out. That's right."}, {"start": "01:05:29", "end": "01:05:32", "text": ">> So, you guys enrich it and send it to us"}, {"start": "01:05:30", "end": "01:05:34", "text": "in the United States. Meanwhile,"}, {"start": "01:05:32", "end": "01:05:36", "text": ">> well, and we remember remember we were"}, {"start": "01:05:34", "end": "01:05:38", "text": "purchasing under Biden. The the stories"}, {"start": "01:05:36", "end": "01:05:40", "text": "were in the Washington Post. They had a"}, {"start": "01:05:38", "end": "01:05:42", "text": "random act of journalism. They were"}, {"start": "01:05:40", "end": "01:05:44", "text": "reporting that Biden was still was still"}, {"start": "01:05:42", "end": "01:05:47", "text": "purchasing oil and natural gas from the"}, {"start": "01:05:44", "end": "01:05:50", "text": "Russians during the Ukraine war. I mean"}, {"start": "01:05:47", "end": "01:05:52", "text": "it's like what do we you know it's it's"}, {"start": "01:05:50", "end": "01:05:55", "text": "lunacy. It's lunacy."}, {"start": "01:05:52", "end": "01:05:57", "text": ">> So yeah I mean talk about neodymium"}, {"start": "01:05:55", "end": "01:05:58", "text": "promium like all of these rare earth"}, {"start": "01:05:57", "end": "01:05:59", "text": "minerals that we're just we don't have"}, {"start": "01:05:58", "end": "01:06:02", "text": "it. We don't have the processing and"}, {"start": "01:05:59", "end": "01:06:05", "text": "they're China. And a key difference also"}, {"start": "01:06:02", "end": "01:06:07", "text": "is we do have a lot of light rare earth"}, {"start": "01:06:05", "end": "01:06:09", "text": "minerals out on the west coast of the"}, {"start": "01:06:07", "end": "01:06:11", "text": "United States in places mostly blue"}, {"start": "01:06:09", "end": "01:06:14", "text": "states like California where they are"}, {"start": "01:06:11", "end": "01:06:16", "text": "not allowing for since the 70s they"}, {"start": "01:06:14", "end": "01:06:18", "text": "don't allow uh any kind of rare earth"}, {"start": "01:06:16", "end": "01:06:20", "text": "extraction. Uh certainly we don't have"}, {"start": "01:06:18", "end": "01:06:23", "text": "any processing capabilities in the"}, {"start": "01:06:20", "end": "01:06:25", "text": "United States. Uh so even if we were to"}, {"start": "01:06:23", "end": "01:06:28", "text": "actually get the light rare earth"}, {"start": "01:06:25", "end": "01:06:30", "text": "minerals from uh uh the west coast of"}, {"start": "01:06:28", "end": "01:06:31", "text": "the United States, we don't have the"}, {"start": "01:06:30", "end": "01:06:33", "text": "processing power. We'd have to ship it"}, {"start": "01:06:31", "end": "01:06:35", "text": "anyway to China to their processing"}, {"start": "01:06:33", "end": "01:06:38", "text": "facilities that we gave them. And by the"}, {"start": "01:06:35", "end": "01:06:40", "text": "way, we need heavy rare earth minerals,"}, {"start": "01:06:38", "end": "01:06:42", "text": "which contrary to what is said in"}, {"start": "01:06:40", "end": "01:06:45", "text": "popular media, my understanding is we do"}, {"start": "01:06:42", "end": "01:06:48", "text": "not have a lot of heavy rare earths in"}, {"start": "01:06:45", "end": "01:06:50", "text": "the Americas. that's in Eurasia, in"}, {"start": "01:06:48", "end": "01:06:51", "text": "Africa, in you know those places that"}, {"start": "01:06:50", "end": "01:06:54", "text": "are contested regions right now that"}, {"start": "01:06:51", "end": "01:06:56", "text": "China has a lot of advantages. They've"}, {"start": "01:06:54", "end": "01:06:57", "text": "also got them in Australia and they've"}, {"start": "01:06:56", "end": "01:06:59", "text": "got them in [ __ ] you know, Japan has"}, {"start": "01:06:57", "end": "01:07:02", "text": "access to them. But here in the United"}, {"start": "01:06:59", "end": "01:07:04", "text": "States, you know, the reindustrialized"}, {"start": "01:07:02", "end": "01:07:06", "text": "plan is great, but we physically don't"}, {"start": "01:07:04", "end": "01:07:08", "text": "have the heavy rare earths in abundance"}, {"start": "01:07:06", "end": "01:07:09", "text": "that we need to be totally"}, {"start": "01:07:08", "end": "01:07:11", "text": "self-sufficient."}, {"start": "01:07:09", "end": "01:07:13", "text": ">> Let's talk about this agreement, this"}, {"start": "01:07:11", "end": "01:07:15", "text": "so-called 60-day ceasefire agreement,"}, {"start": "01:07:13", "end": "01:07:18", "text": "and what do you think happens? Is it"}, {"start": "01:07:15", "end": "01:07:20", "text": "legitimate? Uh laughing, of course. So,"}, {"start": "01:07:18", "end": "01:07:21", "text": "no, clearly not. And then also, what"}, {"start": "01:07:20", "end": "01:07:23", "text": "happens to the US economy? Your"}, {"start": "01:07:21", "end": "01:07:25", "text": "predictions have been spot on. Where do"}, {"start": "01:07:23", "end": "01:07:27", "text": "we go over the next few weeks as"}, {"start": "01:07:25", "end": "01:07:28", "text": "Americans head into the summer months"}, {"start": "01:07:27", "end": "01:07:31", "text": "here? And how are we going to see it"}, {"start": "01:07:28", "end": "01:07:33", "text": "hitting our economy? Well, I told Mario,"}, {"start": "01:07:31", "end": "01:07:35", "text": "my buddy today on his show, I said it"}, {"start": "01:07:33", "end": "01:07:37", "text": "twice now on his show, we don't have a"}, {"start": "01:07:35", "end": "01:07:41", "text": "deal. At best, what we're getting is a"}, {"start": "01:07:37", "end": "01:07:43", "text": "patch, a 60-day patch. Uh and I think"}, {"start": "01:07:41", "end": "01:07:46", "text": "this is in response to the Trump"}, {"start": "01:07:43", "end": "01:07:49", "text": "administration clearly knows we are up a"}, {"start": "01:07:46", "end": "01:07:54", "text": "creek economically that if they don't do"}, {"start": "01:07:49", "end": "01:07:56", "text": "something now to however temporarily"}, {"start": "01:07:54", "end": "01:07:59", "text": "which it would be temporarily reopen the"}, {"start": "01:07:56", "end": "01:08:03", "text": "straight of Hormuse uh if they don't get"}, {"start": "01:07:59", "end": "01:08:05", "text": "that done quickly then not only are we"}, {"start": "01:08:03", "end": "01:08:07", "text": "going to feel the economic burn for"}, {"start": "01:08:05", "end": "01:08:11", "text": "several months probably the rest of the"}, {"start": "01:08:07", "end": "01:08:15", "text": "year but they will collapse the economy."}, {"start": "01:08:11", "end": "01:08:18", "text": "I'm talking about something some"}, {"start": "01:08:15", "end": "01:08:20", "text": "combination of the worst parts of the"}, {"start": "01:08:18", "end": "01:08:23", "text": "great recession of '08 with the worst"}, {"start": "01:08:20", "end": "01:08:27", "text": "parts of the depression caused by the"}, {"start": "01:08:23", "end": "01:08:30", "text": "COVID lockdowns uh in 2020. And so you"}, {"start": "01:08:27", "end": "01:08:31", "text": "can sort of imagine how bad things are"}, {"start": "01:08:30", "end": "01:08:34", "text": "going to get if they don't even"}, {"start": "01:08:31", "end": "01:08:36", "text": "temporarily get the straight reopen. And"}, {"start": "01:08:34", "end": "01:08:38", "text": "I want to make this very clear because"}, {"start": "01:08:36", "end": "01:08:40", "text": "I've been following this very closely."}, {"start": "01:08:38", "end": "01:08:42", "text": "the the president and you noted this"}, {"start": "01:08:40", "end": "01:08:45", "text": "with Larry before you went to break. The"}, {"start": "01:08:42", "end": "01:08:49", "text": "the the president and his team have"}, {"start": "01:08:45", "end": "01:08:51", "text": "become experts in gooseing the markets"}, {"start": "01:08:49", "end": "01:08:54", "text": "uh manipulating them for the day traders"}, {"start": "01:08:51", "end": "01:08:56", "text": "for the you know the the the you know"}, {"start": "01:08:54", "end": "01:08:58", "text": "the speculators basically with the paper"}, {"start": "01:08:56", "end": "01:09:00", "text": "price of oil in particular. They're very"}, {"start": "01:08:58", "end": "01:09:03", "text": "good at manipulating the markets and the"}, {"start": "01:09:00", "end": "01:09:04", "text": "markets are still falling for it. Not as"}, {"start": "01:09:03", "end": "01:09:07", "text": "much as they used to but they still are"}, {"start": "01:09:04", "end": "01:09:09", "text": "falling for it. What I contend is that"}, {"start": "01:09:07", "end": "01:09:12", "text": "Trump knows he's reaching the end of"}, {"start": "01:09:09", "end": "01:09:14", "text": "that line and he knows that if he"}, {"start": "01:09:12", "end": "01:09:16", "text": "doesn't get even a temporary reopening,"}, {"start": "01:09:14", "end": "01:09:18", "text": "then he's screwed politically cuz we"}, {"start": "01:09:16", "end": "01:09:20", "text": "have midterms coming up. So, I think"}, {"start": "01:09:18", "end": "01:09:22", "text": "what they're going to try to do is is"}, {"start": "01:09:20", "end": "01:09:25", "text": "drag out the pain with a 60-day"}, {"start": "01:09:22", "end": "01:09:27", "text": "ceasefire. Um, and because there's no"}, {"start": "01:09:25", "end": "01:09:28", "text": "way, if you listen to what the president"}, {"start": "01:09:27", "end": "01:09:30", "text": "and his people have been saying, not"}, {"start": "01:09:28", "end": "01:09:32", "text": "notice the Iranians haven't said"}, {"start": "01:09:30", "end": "01:09:33", "text": "anything. If you look at what the"}, {"start": "01:09:32", "end": "01:09:36", "text": "president and his people have been"}, {"start": "01:09:33", "end": "01:09:39", "text": "saying about this proposed deal, it's 60"}, {"start": "01:09:36", "end": "01:09:42", "text": "days of reopening, no questions asked,"}, {"start": "01:09:39", "end": "01:09:44", "text": "reopening everything, and then at day"}, {"start": "01:09:42", "end": "01:09:46", "text": "60, you got to sit down and negotiate"}, {"start": "01:09:44", "end": "01:09:51", "text": "Iran to get rid of your nuclear"}, {"start": "01:09:46", "end": "01:09:54", "text": "material. the the Ayatollah Moaba Kamani"}, {"start": "01:09:51", "end": "01:09:56", "text": "who watched his father and his little"}, {"start": "01:09:54", "end": "01:09:59", "text": "baby grand nieces get incinerated in the"}, {"start": "01:09:56", "end": "01:10:02", "text": "bunker at the start of the war has said"}, {"start": "01:09:59", "end": "01:10:04", "text": "under no circumstances will Iran give up"}, {"start": "01:10:02", "end": "01:10:07", "text": "whatever nuclear materials they have to"}, {"start": "01:10:04", "end": "01:10:10", "text": "the Americans it is not going to happen"}, {"start": "01:10:07", "end": "01:10:12", "text": "so unless this is really a hard bargain"}, {"start": "01:10:10", "end": "01:10:16", "text": "he's driving which I I don't think he is"}, {"start": "01:10:12", "end": "01:10:17", "text": "on this issue uh 60 days if we do get"}, {"start": "01:10:16", "end": "01:10:20", "text": "this ceasefire"}, {"start": "01:10:17", "end": "01:10:22", "text": "60 days are going to come and then the"}, {"start": "01:10:20", "end": "01:10:23", "text": "President Trump is going to say, \"Okay,"}, {"start": "01:10:22", "end": "01:10:25", "text": "we got to we got to talk about the"}, {"start": "01:10:23", "end": "01:10:26", "text": "nuclear stuff and the Iranians are going"}, {"start": "01:10:25", "end": "01:10:28", "text": "to flip them the bird and then"}, {"start": "01:10:26", "end": "01:10:30", "text": "everything's going to deteriorate from"}, {"start": "01:10:28", "end": "01:10:32", "text": "there and we'll either be back to having"}, {"start": "01:10:30", "end": "01:10:34", "text": "a shooting war or back to having the"}, {"start": "01:10:32", "end": "01:10:37", "text": "straight closed or the Iranians will"}, {"start": "01:10:34", "end": "01:10:39", "text": "then impose their service fee system uh"}, {"start": "01:10:37", "end": "01:10:41", "text": "on the straight, which will of course"}, {"start": "01:10:39", "end": "01:10:43", "text": "completely destabilize the world economy"}, {"start": "01:10:41", "end": "01:10:45", "text": "because now now these companies that do"}, {"start": "01:10:43", "end": "01:10:47", "text": "business in the straight are going to"}, {"start": "01:10:45", "end": "01:10:50", "text": "have to price in whatever ever service"}, {"start": "01:10:47", "end": "01:10:52", "text": "fees the Iranians want to impose upon"}, {"start": "01:10:50", "end": "01:10:54", "text": "those ships. And if you're flagged from"}, {"start": "01:10:52", "end": "01:10:56", "text": "certain countries like Israel, the"}, {"start": "01:10:54", "end": "01:10:59", "text": "Iranians might say you can't come"}, {"start": "01:10:56", "end": "01:11:01", "text": "through at all. Um or American allies"}, {"start": "01:10:59", "end": "01:11:04", "text": "might have to pay more than say China or"}, {"start": "01:11:01", "end": "01:11:05", "text": "Russia flagged ships. So this I think"}, {"start": "01:11:04", "end": "01:11:08", "text": "way you look at it if he does the"}, {"start": "01:11:05", "end": "01:11:10", "text": "president does get some kind of a deal"}, {"start": "01:11:08", "end": "01:11:13", "text": "for 60-day reopening, it's it's a patch."}, {"start": "01:11:10", "end": "01:11:14", "text": "It is not a peace deal. We are not ever"}, {"start": "01:11:13", "end": "01:11:17", "text": "going to get a peace deal. I do not"}, {"start": "01:11:14", "end": "01:11:19", "text": "believe. partly because the Iranians"}, {"start": "01:11:17", "end": "01:11:21", "text": "don't think they can trust us, but also,"}, {"start": "01:11:19", "end": "01:11:24", "text": "let's face it, we're not the ones on on"}, {"start": "01:11:21", "end": "01:11:26", "text": "this side of the the the crisis driving"}, {"start": "01:11:24", "end": "01:11:29", "text": "events. It's the Israelis. It's"}, {"start": "01:11:26", "end": "01:11:29", "text": "Netanyahu. And he does not want peace at"}, {"start": "01:11:29", "end": "01:11:31", "text": "all."}, {"start": "01:11:29", "end": "01:11:32", "text": ">> No, he wants regime regime change. And"}, {"start": "01:11:31", "end": "01:11:34", "text": "he wants an"}, {"start": "01:11:32", "end": "01:11:35", "text": ">> I don't even think he cares about that"}, {"start": "01:11:34", "end": "01:11:36", "text": "to be honest with you. And I don't"}, {"start": "01:11:35", "end": "01:11:39", "text": "remember if I said this to you or"}, {"start": "01:11:36", "end": "01:11:40", "text": "somebody else, but I actually think it's"}, {"start": "01:11:39", "end": "01:11:42", "text": "it's baser than this. I know everybody"}, {"start": "01:11:40", "end": "01:11:44", "text": "talks about greater Israel and that is"}, {"start": "01:11:42", "end": "01:11:47", "text": "certainly sort of a long range"}, {"start": "01:11:44", "end": "01:11:51", "text": "ideological objective of of Netanyahu's"}, {"start": "01:11:47", "end": "01:11:53", "text": "party, but in my opinion, this is Baser."}, {"start": "01:11:51", "end": "01:11:57", "text": "He is under the gun politically and"}, {"start": "01:11:53", "end": "01:12:00", "text": "legally. and he has managed to to avoid"}, {"start": "01:11:57", "end": "01:12:03", "text": "these really serious investigations and"}, {"start": "01:12:00", "end": "01:12:06", "text": "charges against him uh both for whatever"}, {"start": "01:12:03", "end": "01:12:08", "text": "corruption he is accused of engaging in"}, {"start": "01:12:06", "end": "01:12:11", "text": "as well as the investigations into how"}, {"start": "01:12:08", "end": "01:12:12", "text": "the heck 107 happened uh in the first"}, {"start": "01:12:11", "end": "01:12:14", "text": "place. He has avoided the hard"}, {"start": "01:12:12", "end": "01:12:16", "text": "questions. He has avoided the legal"}, {"start": "01:12:14", "end": "01:12:19", "text": "ramifications for whatever he may or may"}, {"start": "01:12:16", "end": "01:12:22", "text": "not have done primarily by opening up"}, {"start": "01:12:19", "end": "01:12:25", "text": "multiple fronts in the war ever since"}, {"start": "01:12:22", "end": "01:12:28", "text": "107. And if he gets a peace deal or if a"}, {"start": "01:12:25", "end": "01:12:30", "text": "peace deal is crafted now, the Israeli"}, {"start": "01:12:28", "end": "01:12:32", "text": "government returns to normal operation"}, {"start": "01:12:30", "end": "01:12:34", "text": "and the first thing they're going to do"}, {"start": "01:12:32", "end": "01:12:36", "text": "is reopen those investigations into him."}, {"start": "01:12:34", "end": "01:12:37", "text": "In fact, a few weeks ago, my"}, {"start": "01:12:36", "end": "01:12:40", "text": "understanding is the Israeli Supreme"}, {"start": "01:12:37", "end": "01:12:42", "text": "Court held court under normal rules for"}, {"start": "01:12:40", "end": "01:12:43", "text": "the first time in a long time. And the"}, {"start": "01:12:42", "end": "01:12:46", "text": "first case they were looking into was"}, {"start": "01:12:43", "end": "01:12:49", "text": "the alleged corruption uh investigation"}, {"start": "01:12:46", "end": "01:12:51", "text": "into Netanyahu. This was what prompted"}, {"start": "01:12:49", "end": "01:12:53", "text": "Trump a few weeks ago to call President"}, {"start": "01:12:51", "end": "01:12:55", "text": "Herdzog, the leader of the Israeli"}, {"start": "01:12:53", "end": "01:12:57", "text": "parliament, and begged him to say, he"}, {"start": "01:12:55", "end": "01:13:00", "text": "said, \"Please give Netanyahu a pardon.\""}, {"start": "01:12:57", "end": "01:13:02", "text": "And Herzog said, \"Under no circumstance,"}, {"start": "01:13:00", "end": "01:13:06", "text": "no matter what happens, will we ever"}, {"start": "01:13:02", "end": "01:13:07", "text": "pardon Netanyahu.\" So, Bby needs the war"}, {"start": "01:13:06", "end": "01:13:11", "text": "because it's the only thing keeping him"}, {"start": "01:13:07", "end": "01:13:14", "text": "in power and possibly out of jail."}, {"start": "01:13:11", "end": "01:13:16", "text": ">> Yeah. Uh, yeah. a source of mine who"}, {"start": "01:13:14", "end": "01:13:18", "text": "worked for Netanyahu, you know, has"}, {"start": "01:13:16", "end": "01:13:19", "text": "explained to me how corrupt the man is"}, {"start": "01:13:18", "end": "01:13:22", "text": "and how he will keep this war going on"}, {"start": "01:13:19", "end": "01:13:25", "text": "purpose in order the dog. This is Bill"}, {"start": "01:13:22", "end": "01:13:25", "text": "Clinton on steroids from the 90s,"}, {"start": "01:13:25", "end": "01:13:27", "text": ">> you know,"}, {"start": "01:13:25", "end": "01:13:29", "text": ">> and it's also and it's, you know,"}, {"start": "01:13:27", "end": "01:13:31", "text": "speaking to sources in Israel who told"}, {"start": "01:13:29", "end": "01:13:33", "text": "me that one of the things that they hope"}, {"start": "01:13:31", "end": "01:13:35", "text": "they'll get an answer to is to how they"}, {"start": "01:13:33", "end": "01:13:37", "text": "allowed those young girls, those IDF"}, {"start": "01:13:35", "end": "01:13:39", "text": "soldiers to be used as cannon fodder and"}, {"start": "01:13:37", "end": "01:13:40", "text": "standown orders that allowed those girls"}, {"start": "01:13:39", "end": "01:13:43", "text": "on the front lines there, like the sort"}, {"start": "01:13:40", "end": "01:13:45", "text": "of fresh out of college IDF soldiers to"}, {"start": "01:13:43", "end": "01:13:47", "text": "be killed and they knew they were going"}, {"start": "01:13:45", "end": "01:13:48", "text": "to be killed and use them as cannon"}, {"start": "01:13:47", "end": "01:13:49", "text": "fodder. Um, that needs to be"}, {"start": "01:13:48", "end": "01:13:50", "text": "investigated."}, {"start": "01:13:49", "end": "01:13:52", "text": ">> It does. You know,"}, {"start": "01:13:50", "end": "01:13:55", "text": ">> it does and I and there is a wing of"}, {"start": "01:13:52", "end": "01:13:58", "text": "Israel that has been wanting Nesset to"}, {"start": "01:13:55", "end": "01:14:01", "text": "investigate this, normally notably the"}, {"start": "01:13:58", "end": "01:14:03", "text": "left, but they can't get it done because"}, {"start": "01:14:01", "end": "01:14:05", "text": "every time they start the process,"}, {"start": "01:14:03", "end": "01:14:08", "text": "another front opens, more emergency"}, {"start": "01:14:05", "end": "01:14:10", "text": "counter measures are put in. You know,"}, {"start": "01:14:08", "end": "01:14:12", "text": "they can't operate like a normal"}, {"start": "01:14:10", "end": "01:14:15", "text": "democracy. So uh and this is the game"}, {"start": "01:14:12", "end": "01:14:18", "text": "that that that Netanyahu plays uh you"}, {"start": "01:14:15", "end": "01:14:22", "text": "know using his power uh I think unduly"}, {"start": "01:14:18", "end": "01:14:24", "text": "now uh to to avoid to avoid the legal"}, {"start": "01:14:22", "end": "01:14:26", "text": "ramifications for whatever and one of"}, {"start": "01:14:24", "end": "01:14:28", "text": "the interesting stories here Clayton uh"}, {"start": "01:14:26", "end": "01:14:31", "text": "it's not widely reported it's not widely"}, {"start": "01:14:28", "end": "01:14:34", "text": "understood outside of Israeli media is"}, {"start": "01:14:31", "end": "01:14:35", "text": "for years Netanyahu's government that"}, {"start": "01:14:34", "end": "01:14:38", "text": "was part of the mowing the grass"}, {"start": "01:14:35", "end": "01:14:41", "text": "strategy Caroline Glick uh who I'm a big"}, {"start": "01:14:38", "end": "01:14:44", "text": "fan of and she's now currently Netanyahu"}, {"start": "01:14:41", "end": "01:14:45", "text": "adviser, but at her her Times of Israel"}, {"start": "01:14:44", "end": "01:14:47", "text": "uh column, she used to write about this"}, {"start": "01:14:45", "end": "01:14:50", "text": "openly. It was part this mowing the"}, {"start": "01:14:47", "end": "01:14:52", "text": "grass strategy where basically Israeli"}, {"start": "01:14:50", "end": "01:14:55", "text": "leaders and security officials assessed"}, {"start": "01:14:52", "end": "01:14:57", "text": "that the greater threat to Israel was to"}, {"start": "01:14:55", "end": "01:14:58", "text": "the north from Hezbollah and that they"}, {"start": "01:14:57", "end": "01:15:00", "text": "could as long as they could manage"}, {"start": "01:14:58", "end": "01:15:03", "text": "Hamas, they wouldn't have to worry about"}, {"start": "01:15:00", "end": "01:15:05", "text": "it. And so what Netanyahu's government"}, {"start": "01:15:03", "end": "01:15:09", "text": "did or his people did, it sounds like,"}, {"start": "01:15:05", "end": "01:15:12", "text": "is they started this scheme to pay off"}, {"start": "01:15:09", "end": "01:15:15", "text": "Kamas's leadership by washing money"}, {"start": "01:15:12", "end": "01:15:19", "text": "through Qatar or allowing Qatar to fund"}, {"start": "01:15:15", "end": "01:15:22", "text": "Hamas. And as uh Jack Maxi has has"}, {"start": "01:15:19", "end": "01:15:23", "text": "reported in his reporting, um Netanyahu"}, {"start": "01:15:22", "end": "01:15:26", "text": "and his people were taking basically a"}, {"start": "01:15:23", "end": "01:15:29", "text": "vig a cut off the top of that money for"}, {"start": "01:15:26", "end": "01:15:32", "text": "themselves and then letting the rest of"}, {"start": "01:15:29", "end": "01:15:34", "text": "it go to Hamas. Hamas was playing them"}, {"start": "01:15:32", "end": "01:15:35", "text": "though. Hamas was playing them for"}, {"start": "01:15:34", "end": "01:15:37", "text": "fools. They were taking the money"}, {"start": "01:15:35", "end": "01:15:38", "text": "saying, \"Oh yeah, we won't we won't"}, {"start": "01:15:37", "end": "01:15:40", "text": "attack you. Don't worry.\" And they were"}, {"start": "01:15:38", "end": "01:15:44", "text": "buying weapons and preparing the ground"}, {"start": "01:15:40", "end": "01:15:45", "text": "for what became 107. It was with Israeli"}, {"start": "01:15:44", "end": "01:15:48", "text": "money. It was with the money that"}, {"start": "01:15:45", "end": "01:15:50", "text": "Netanyahu was paying them with the hopes"}, {"start": "01:15:48", "end": "01:15:52", "text": "that they wouldn't attack. Uh I mean"}, {"start": "01:15:50", "end": "01:15:54", "text": "it's really a sorted tale if you really"}, {"start": "01:15:52", "end": "01:15:57", "text": "look into it. There is so much"}, {"start": "01:15:54", "end": "01:15:59", "text": "corruption here. Um"}, {"start": "01:15:57", "end": "01:16:03", "text": ">> I was in Rafa I was near RA not too far"}, {"start": "01:15:59", "end": "01:16:05", "text": "from Rafa um on 107 in Egypt and the"}, {"start": "01:16:03", "end": "01:16:06", "text": "Egyptians were you you guys knew all"}, {"start": "01:16:05", "end": "01:16:07", "text": "about this."}, {"start": "01:16:06", "end": "01:16:10", "text": ">> It was well known that this was coming"}, {"start": "01:16:07", "end": "01:16:11", "text": "like this whole fakery of 107 like you"}, {"start": "01:16:10", "end": "01:16:13", "text": "didn't know it was coming. It was a"}, {"start": "01:16:11", "end": "01:16:14", "text": "surprise. You're laundering money"}, {"start": "01:16:13", "end": "01:16:16", "text": "through these guys. They're arming"}, {"start": "01:16:14", "end": "01:16:18", "text": "themselves. You're watching the most"}, {"start": "01:16:16", "end": "01:16:21", "text": "heavily secure border in the world."}, {"start": "01:16:18", "end": "01:16:22", "text": ">> I mean, it's all a joke. It's a theater"}, {"start": "01:16:21", "end": "01:16:23", "text": "at this point. It's so"}, {"start": "01:16:22", "end": "01:16:26", "text": ">> It's a theater of the absurd."}, {"start": "01:16:23", "end": "01:16:28", "text": ">> Yeah. Um, I'll get you out of here on"}, {"start": "01:16:26", "end": "01:16:30", "text": "this, Brandon. Be respectful of your"}, {"start": "01:16:28", "end": "01:16:32", "text": "time, which is So, you talk about this"}, {"start": "01:16:30", "end": "01:16:34", "text": "depression, this idea could be as bad as"}, {"start": "01:16:32", "end": "01:16:36", "text": "the lockdown depression, um, and even"}, {"start": "01:16:34", "end": "01:16:38", "text": "the Great Recession. What is the what"}, {"start": "01:16:36", "end": "01:16:39", "text": "are the mechanics of that look like, do"}, {"start": "01:16:38", "end": "01:16:41", "text": "you think, in practice for like the"}, {"start": "01:16:39", "end": "01:16:43", "text": "typical American family that's got kids,"}, {"start": "01:16:41", "end": "01:16:44", "text": "they're taken to their dance practice"}, {"start": "01:16:43", "end": "01:16:45", "text": "after school? like what does it look"}, {"start": "01:16:44", "end": "01:16:47", "text": "like in action?"}, {"start": "01:16:45", "end": "01:16:51", "text": ">> Yeah. So, we're seeing the outlines of"}, {"start": "01:16:47", "end": "01:16:53", "text": "it right now and that is the the spikes"}, {"start": "01:16:51", "end": "01:16:55", "text": "in fuel and it and the real spike that"}, {"start": "01:16:53", "end": "01:16:57", "text": "to be worried about is the spike in"}, {"start": "01:16:55", "end": "01:17:00", "text": "price for diesel because basically"}, {"start": "01:16:57", "end": "01:17:02", "text": "everything runs on diesel. um the entire"}, {"start": "01:17:00", "end": "01:17:05", "text": "shipping, you know, American shipping"}, {"start": "01:17:02", "end": "01:17:08", "text": "firms, uh logistics, everything runs on"}, {"start": "01:17:05", "end": "01:17:10", "text": "diesel trucks, therefore diesel that the"}, {"start": "01:17:08", "end": "01:17:13", "text": "prices have gone up, I think in some"}, {"start": "01:17:10", "end": "01:17:16", "text": "cases up as high as 70% since the war"}, {"start": "01:17:13", "end": "01:17:18", "text": "began. Nobody can afford that. The the"}, {"start": "01:17:16", "end": "01:17:21", "text": "the truckers can't, the trucking"}, {"start": "01:17:18", "end": "01:17:24", "text": "companies can't, and so that basically"}, {"start": "01:17:21", "end": "01:17:26", "text": "forces spikes to prices of everything"}, {"start": "01:17:24", "end": "01:17:28", "text": "that needs to be shipped, which is"}, {"start": "01:17:26", "end": "01:17:31", "text": "everything basically that we use. Uh so"}, {"start": "01:17:28", "end": "01:17:33", "text": "so you're going to see price increases."}, {"start": "01:17:31", "end": "01:17:35", "text": "You're already starting to for everyday"}, {"start": "01:17:33", "end": "01:17:37", "text": "goods. Then of course the price of"}, {"start": "01:17:35", "end": "01:17:40", "text": "natural gas and oil for the ordinary"}, {"start": "01:17:37", "end": "01:17:41", "text": "consumer. We're seeing that at the pump."}, {"start": "01:17:40", "end": "01:17:45", "text": "Uh you know generally I think it's about"}, {"start": "01:17:41", "end": "01:17:49", "text": "a 50% 52% increase since the war began."}, {"start": "01:17:45", "end": "01:17:52", "text": "Um that is going to exponentially worsen"}, {"start": "01:17:49", "end": "01:17:56", "text": "as we reach the end or the bottom of the"}, {"start": "01:17:52", "end": "01:17:59", "text": "barrels of surpluses of buffers. uh we"}, {"start": "01:17:56", "end": "01:18:01", "text": "build up a a strategic supply so that we"}, {"start": "01:17:59", "end": "01:18:03", "text": "can deploy it in times of crisis. Well,"}, {"start": "01:18:01", "end": "01:18:05", "text": "the president's been pulling from those"}, {"start": "01:18:03", "end": "01:18:07", "text": "strategic reserves for political"}, {"start": "01:18:05", "end": "01:18:09", "text": "purposes. Well, we're going to start"}, {"start": "01:18:07", "end": "01:18:13", "text": "reaching the bottom of the barrels"}, {"start": "01:18:09", "end": "01:18:14", "text": "there. And uh basically once we we run"}, {"start": "01:18:13", "end": "01:18:17", "text": "through the buffers, which a lot of"}, {"start": "01:18:14", "end": "01:18:19", "text": "experts are saying the weekend or"}, {"start": "01:18:17", "end": "01:18:22", "text": "ironically the 250th anniversary of"}, {"start": "01:18:19", "end": "01:18:24", "text": "America, the weekend of July 4th, that"}, {"start": "01:18:22", "end": "01:18:27", "text": "time frame, you should see us reach"}, {"start": "01:18:24", "end": "01:18:29", "text": "pretty much the bottom of the barrel,"}, {"start": "01:18:27", "end": "01:18:31", "text": "which then forces us to compete for"}, {"start": "01:18:29", "end": "01:18:34", "text": "access to energy on the global market"}, {"start": "01:18:31", "end": "01:18:37", "text": "more thoroughly, which means higher"}, {"start": "01:18:34", "end": "01:18:40", "text": "prices for us. that will knock on"}, {"start": "01:18:37", "end": "01:18:42", "text": "everything else. Vacations, jet fuel is"}, {"start": "01:18:40", "end": "01:18:44", "text": "not going to be wildly available. So,"}, {"start": "01:18:42", "end": "01:18:46", "text": "you're going to see massive reductions"}, {"start": "01:18:44", "end": "01:18:48", "text": "in flights. It's a summer driving"}, {"start": "01:18:46", "end": "01:18:50", "text": "season. You're not going to be seeing a"}, {"start": "01:18:48", "end": "01:18:52", "text": "lot of people, I don't think, doing"}, {"start": "01:18:50", "end": "01:18:55", "text": "their summer vacations. I certainly"}, {"start": "01:18:52", "end": "01:18:57", "text": "canled our trip to Disney. Uh we were"}, {"start": "01:18:55", "end": "01:18:59", "text": "going to drive in July. I said, I think"}, {"start": "01:18:57", "end": "01:19:01", "text": "we should just wait till next year. Um"}, {"start": "01:18:59", "end": "01:19:02", "text": "luckily, the kids are young enough where"}, {"start": "01:19:01", "end": "01:19:05", "text": "it's not going to be that big of a deal."}, {"start": "01:19:02", "end": "01:19:06", "text": "Uh but ultimately you will see things"}, {"start": "01:19:05", "end": "01:19:09", "text": "like that. In terms of your everyday"}, {"start": "01:19:06", "end": "01:19:11", "text": "life, I would really be paying attention"}, {"start": "01:19:09", "end": "01:19:14", "text": "to what I think are going to be very"}, {"start": "01:19:11", "end": "01:19:16", "text": "serious shortages of food stuffs which"}, {"start": "01:19:14", "end": "01:19:18", "text": "will then because of the the the"}, {"start": "01:19:16", "end": "01:19:21", "text": "shortage in in um fertilizer which will"}, {"start": "01:19:18", "end": "01:19:24", "text": "then translate to massively expensive"}, {"start": "01:19:21", "end": "01:19:26", "text": "goods at the grocery store because"}, {"start": "01:19:24", "end": "01:19:28", "text": "farmers can't grow everything they need"}, {"start": "01:19:26", "end": "01:19:30", "text": "in the quantities they need to meet"}, {"start": "01:19:28", "end": "01:19:32", "text": "demand. So this is basic supply and"}, {"start": "01:19:30", "end": "01:19:35", "text": "demand. There's a short there's a"}, {"start": "01:19:32", "end": "01:19:37", "text": "shortage of key goods at the grocery"}, {"start": "01:19:35", "end": "01:19:39", "text": "store. Whatever is available will be"}, {"start": "01:19:37", "end": "01:19:41", "text": "massively more expensive. Um you're"}, {"start": "01:19:39", "end": "01:19:45", "text": "already seeing beef prices. That's only"}, {"start": "01:19:41", "end": "01:19:48", "text": "going to uh get worse. So everything is"}, {"start": "01:19:45", "end": "01:19:51", "text": "going to get more expensive and it's"}, {"start": "01:19:48", "end": "01:19:53", "text": "going to basically lead to um inflation"}, {"start": "01:19:51", "end": "01:19:55", "text": "rates going higher. Kevin Walsh, the new"}, {"start": "01:19:53", "end": "01:19:57", "text": "Fed chairman, is saying that he's"}, {"start": "01:19:55", "end": "01:19:59", "text": "supposed to be brought into lower"}, {"start": "01:19:57", "end": "01:20:01", "text": "interest rates. When you have a high"}, {"start": "01:19:59", "end": "01:20:04", "text": "inflationary environment, you do not"}, {"start": "01:20:01", "end": "01:20:06", "text": "rate uh lower in uh interest rates. So"}, {"start": "01:20:04", "end": "01:20:07", "text": "that's going to drag the economy."}, {"start": "01:20:06", "end": "01:20:10", "text": "Basically, we're heading into"}, {"start": "01:20:07", "end": "01:20:12", "text": "stagflation, which means high inflation,"}, {"start": "01:20:10", "end": "01:20:14", "text": "low employment, and it's a worse"}, {"start": "01:20:12", "end": "01:20:16", "text": "combination of factors where the Fed"}, {"start": "01:20:14", "end": "01:20:20", "text": "can't manage the situation like they did"}, {"start": "01:20:16", "end": "01:20:23", "text": "in '08 or during 2020. Uh so you we're"}, {"start": "01:20:20", "end": "01:20:26", "text": "we're headed for possibly, I think, a"}, {"start": "01:20:23", "end": "01:20:29", "text": "real lost decade economically."}, {"start": "01:20:26", "end": "01:20:30", "text": "um higher prices, lower wages. I mean,"}, {"start": "01:20:29", "end": "01:20:32", "text": "this is going to be a real nightmare"}, {"start": "01:20:30", "end": "01:20:35", "text": "scenario. All because the president of"}, {"start": "01:20:32", "end": "01:20:37", "text": "the United States decided to go to war"}, {"start": "01:20:35", "end": "01:20:39", "text": "for Israel on February 28th."}, {"start": "01:20:37", "end": "01:20:42", "text": ">> What a way to celebrate the 250th"}, {"start": "01:20:39", "end": "01:20:43", "text": "anniversary on July 4th with an economy"}, {"start": "01:20:42", "end": "01:20:44", "text": "like this [ __ ] show that we're about to"}, {"start": "01:20:43", "end": "01:20:45", "text": "see."}, {"start": "01:20:44", "end": "01:20:46", "text": ">> That's right."}, {"start": "01:20:45", "end": "01:20:48", "text": ">> That's right."}, {"start": "01:20:46", "end": "01:20:50", "text": ">> To the 20 20,000 of you or so that are"}, {"start": "01:20:48", "end": "01:20:52", "text": "watching us live across all of our"}, {"start": "01:20:50", "end": "01:20:53", "text": "platforms, please follow Brandon on X."}, {"start": "01:20:52", "end": "01:20:54", "text": "Um, let's go back."}, {"start": "01:20:53", "end": "01:20:56", "text": ">> We the Brandon"}, {"start": "01:20:54", "end": "01:20:59", "text": ">> at we the Brandon there and also uh"}, {"start": "01:20:56", "end": "01:21:00", "text": "subscribe to the NATSC talk podcast."}, {"start": "01:20:59", "end": "01:21:03", "text": "Brandon, always great to see you. Follow"}, {"start": "01:21:00", "end": "01:21:05", "text": "him for great uh on Rumble on Rumble."}, {"start": "01:21:03", "end": "01:21:08", "text": "The NATSC talk podcast. You can't say"}, {"start": "01:21:05", "end": "01:21:10", "text": "what you say on YouTube. Um, Brandon,"}, {"start": "01:21:08", "end": "01:21:11", "text": "great to see you as always. Thank you so"}, {"start": "01:21:10", "end": "01:21:13", "text": "much. I really appreciate it and"}, {"start": "01:21:11", "end": "01:21:14", "text": "hopefully enjoy the weekend. Thanks,"}, {"start": "01:21:13", "end": "01:21:14", "text": "Brandon. Great to see you."}, {"start": "01:21:14", "end": "01:21:16", "text": ">> Byebye."}, {"start": "01:21:14", "end": "01:21:17", "text": ">> Thanks so much, man. All right. All"}, {"start": "01:21:16", "end": "01:21:19", "text": "right. Coming up here, we're going to"}, {"start": "01:21:17", "end": "01:21:20", "text": "talk about these data centers uh in a"}, {"start": "01:21:19", "end": "01:21:22", "text": "moment here and a new report on the"}, {"start": "01:21:20", "end": "01:21:24", "text": "ecology of what these data centers are"}, {"start": "01:21:22", "end": "01:21:26", "text": "looking like and how they could be"}, {"start": "01:21:24", "end": "01:21:29", "text": "doubling in the in the United States"}, {"start": "01:21:26", "end": "01:21:30", "text": "over the next year by the year 2027. You"}, {"start": "01:21:29", "end": "01:21:32", "text": "think you've seen enough of these things"}, {"start": "01:21:30", "end": "01:21:34", "text": "already? No, no, no. You haven't even"}, {"start": "01:21:32", "end": "01:21:36", "text": "seen the half of it to be honest. So,"}, {"start": "01:21:34", "end": "01:21:38", "text": "we're going to talk about that. But hey,"}, {"start": "01:21:36", "end": "01:21:42", "text": "have you seen gold prices? Have you seen"}, {"start": "01:21:38", "end": "01:21:44", "text": "silver prices? Well, silver prices upund"}, {"start": "01:21:42", "end": "01:21:48", "text": "just this year alone 123% this year"}, {"start": "01:21:44", "end": "01:21:51", "text": "alone. and gold prices up just in the"}, {"start": "01:21:48", "end": "01:21:54", "text": "past year 33.99%"}, {"start": "01:21:51", "end": "01:21:55", "text": "in just one year for gold prices. That's"}, {"start": "01:21:54", "end": "01:21:56", "text": "because we see just what Brandon was"}, {"start": "01:21:55", "end": "01:21:59", "text": "talking about what's happening in the US"}, {"start": "01:21:56", "end": "01:22:01", "text": "economy. I invest in gold and silver not"}, {"start": "01:21:59", "end": "01:22:03", "text": "because I like that it goes up in value"}, {"start": "01:22:01", "end": "01:22:05", "text": "and it has. That's great. 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And Wired says this"}, {"start": "01:25:21", "end": "01:25:27", "text": "term does not appear to publicly in any"}, {"start": "01:25:23", "end": "01:25:29", "text": "publicly available DHS or FBI document"}, {"start": "01:25:27", "end": "01:25:32", "text": "guides on extremism. It's not there."}, {"start": "01:25:29", "end": "01:25:35", "text": "Which means this is new. This is a newly"}, {"start": "01:25:32", "end": "01:25:37", "text": "emerging category being built inside"}, {"start": "01:25:35", "end": "01:25:39", "text": "their surveillance state in the Trump"}, {"start": "01:25:37", "end": "01:25:41", "text": "administration."}, {"start": "01:25:39", "end": "01:25:43", "text": "So, if you don't want a giant data"}, {"start": "01:25:41", "end": "01:25:45", "text": "center in your backyard because of what"}, {"start": "01:25:43", "end": "01:25:46", "text": "it's going to do to the ecology, what"}, {"start": "01:25:45", "end": "01:25:48", "text": "it's going to do to the noise pollution,"}, {"start": "01:25:46", "end": "01:25:50", "text": "what it's going to do to the energy"}, {"start": "01:25:48", "end": "01:25:52", "text": "infrastructure, then you could be"}, {"start": "01:25:50", "end": "01:25:54", "text": "labeled a domestic terrorist."}, {"start": "01:25:52", "end": "01:25:57", "text": "Our next guest has written a brand new"}, {"start": "01:25:54", "end": "01:25:59", "text": "massive report on AI data centers across"}, {"start": "01:25:57", "end": "01:26:02", "text": "the United States, and it's incredibly"}, {"start": "01:25:59", "end": "01:26:04", "text": "eye-opening and disturbing. We'll make"}, {"start": "01:26:02", "end": "01:26:06", "text": "sure we have a link um in the"}, {"start": "01:26:04", "end": "01:26:09", "text": "description box for you to all read it."}, {"start": "01:26:06", "end": "01:26:11", "text": "Our guest is Hakeim Anoir. is the CEO of"}, {"start": "01:26:09", "end": "01:26:14", "text": "Above Phone and he's written this brand"}, {"start": "01:26:11", "end": "01:26:16", "text": "new AI ecology report and uh we're"}, {"start": "01:26:14", "end": "01:26:18", "text": "thrilled to have him back on the show."}, {"start": "01:26:16", "end": "01:26:19", "text": "Great to have you back"}, {"start": "01:26:18", "end": "01:26:20", "text": ">> Clayton. It's good to be back. How are"}, {"start": "01:26:19", "end": "01:26:22", "text": "you?"}, {"start": "01:26:20", "end": "01:26:25", "text": ">> I'm doing great. Great to see you."}, {"start": "01:26:22", "end": "01:26:27", "text": "Welcome back to the show. So, yeah, I,"}, {"start": "01:26:25", "end": "01:26:29", "text": "you know, want to dive into your AI"}, {"start": "01:26:27", "end": "01:26:30", "text": "ecology report here, but just before we"}, {"start": "01:26:29", "end": "01:26:33", "text": "get into all of that and what you've"}, {"start": "01:26:30", "end": "01:26:36", "text": "uncovered. Um, you've been, of course,"}, {"start": "01:26:33", "end": "01:26:37", "text": "obviously on the front lines of warning"}, {"start": "01:26:36", "end": "01:26:39", "text": "about this government surveillance,"}, {"start": "01:26:37", "end": "01:26:42", "text": "obviously at above phone, that's that's"}, {"start": "01:26:39", "end": "01:26:45", "text": "what you guys do. Um, you know, making"}, {"start": "01:26:42", "end": "01:26:48", "text": "sure we have computers and phones that"}, {"start": "01:26:45", "end": "01:26:50", "text": "are not uh being surveiled in that way."}, {"start": "01:26:48", "end": "01:26:52", "text": "So, thank you for that. Um, just first"}, {"start": "01:26:50", "end": "01:26:55", "text": "on your thoughts on this wired wired"}, {"start": "01:26:52", "end": "01:26:57", "text": "investigation and if you're speaking out"}, {"start": "01:26:55", "end": "01:27:00", "text": "against these AI data centers, then"}, {"start": "01:26:57", "end": "01:27:02", "text": "you're on their watch list."}, {"start": "01:27:00", "end": "01:27:05", "text": ">> Yeah, it's it's it's alarming, right?"}, {"start": "01:27:02", "end": "01:27:07", "text": "This this news from a few days ago, and"}, {"start": "01:27:05", "end": "01:27:09", "text": "it just shows you how fast this is"}, {"start": "01:27:07", "end": "01:27:12", "text": "evolving. It also shows you that people"}, {"start": "01:27:09", "end": "01:27:14", "text": "are are pushing back. I think from that"}, {"start": "01:27:12", "end": "01:27:19", "text": "report, they're they're paying attention"}, {"start": "01:27:14", "end": "01:27:22", "text": "to who shows up locally in um the"}, {"start": "01:27:19", "end": "01:27:24", "text": "zoning uh the zoning hearings and any"}, {"start": "01:27:22", "end": "01:27:26", "text": "hearings about data centers. They're"}, {"start": "01:27:24", "end": "01:27:29", "text": "tracking who is showing up and they're"}, {"start": "01:27:26", "end": "01:27:32", "text": "also on the lookout for um people who"}, {"start": "01:27:29", "end": "01:27:34", "text": "are using violence to achieve their"}, {"start": "01:27:32", "end": "01:27:36", "text": "goals, which is, you know, sometimes"}, {"start": "01:27:34", "end": "01:27:38", "text": "that can happen. These people who are"}, {"start": "01:27:36", "end": "01:27:40", "text": "misguided think that violence is the"}, {"start": "01:27:38", "end": "01:27:42", "text": "only way to achieve their goals. And I"}, {"start": "01:27:40", "end": "01:27:44", "text": "just want to we have to now we have to"}, {"start": "01:27:42", "end": "01:27:46", "text": "preface the whole conversation by"}, {"start": "01:27:44", "end": "01:27:50", "text": "saying, \"Hey, that's not what we're"}, {"start": "01:27:46", "end": "01:27:52", "text": "trying to do here. Um, this is about"}, {"start": "01:27:50", "end": "01:27:53", "text": "peaceful action and awareness, not"}, {"start": "01:27:52", "end": "01:27:55", "text": "tearing things down,"}, {"start": "01:27:53", "end": "01:27:58", "text": ">> right? It's about empowering people with"}, {"start": "01:27:55", "end": "01:28:00", "text": "information. Um, and just because you"}, {"start": "01:27:58", "end": "01:28:02", "text": "know you don't want this thing in your"}, {"start": "01:28:00", "end": "01:28:05", "text": "backyard because of what might it do to"}, {"start": "01:28:02", "end": "01:28:07", "text": "your environment, your energy bills,"}, {"start": "01:28:05", "end": "01:28:09", "text": "your water supply, all of it doesn't"}, {"start": "01:28:07", "end": "01:28:11", "text": "make you a bad person. and it makes you"}, {"start": "01:28:09", "end": "01:28:14", "text": "an American who's standing up for uh"}, {"start": "01:28:11", "end": "01:28:17", "text": "liberty and it's making uh it's also uh"}, {"start": "01:28:14", "end": "01:28:18", "text": "that's part of our DNA in this country."}, {"start": "01:28:17", "end": "01:28:21", "text": "So"}, {"start": "01:28:18", "end": "01:28:23", "text": "let's talk about your new report and"}, {"start": "01:28:21", "end": "01:28:26", "text": "what was the impetus first of all tell"}, {"start": "01:28:23", "end": "01:28:27", "text": "us about just at a high level um this"}, {"start": "01:28:26", "end": "01:28:30", "text": "report and what was the impetus for"}, {"start": "01:28:27", "end": "01:28:33", "text": "wanting to put this together?"}, {"start": "01:28:30", "end": "01:28:37", "text": "Yeah. So last year our customers asked"}, {"start": "01:28:33", "end": "01:28:39", "text": "us to make an AI product and part of our"}, {"start": "01:28:37", "end": "01:28:41", "text": "due diligence I mean we we already have"}, {"start": "01:28:39", "end": "01:28:43", "text": "made a lot of other products for email"}, {"start": "01:28:41", "end": "01:28:45", "text": "calendar video conferencing. So as part"}, {"start": "01:28:43", "end": "01:28:48", "text": "of this I wanted to look at how do you"}, {"start": "01:28:45", "end": "01:28:50", "text": "do this and what is the risk and what"}, {"start": "01:28:48", "end": "01:28:53", "text": "are other companies doing and then just"}, {"start": "01:28:50", "end": "01:28:55", "text": "just even immediately I I realized there"}, {"start": "01:28:53", "end": "01:28:58", "text": "was a major crisis coming. This is kind"}, {"start": "01:28:55", "end": "01:29:00", "text": "of when people were starting to to see"}, {"start": "01:28:58", "end": "01:29:03", "text": "the spread of data centers in 2025 and"}, {"start": "01:29:00", "end": "01:29:05", "text": "they're popping up everywhere. I got to"}, {"start": "01:29:03", "end": "01:29:07", "text": "see accounts of them violating"}, {"start": "01:29:05", "end": "01:29:10", "text": "environmental law and just completely"}, {"start": "01:29:07", "end": "01:29:14", "text": "overriding what local communities want."}, {"start": "01:29:10", "end": "01:29:16", "text": "So, um there there was something more"}, {"start": "01:29:14", "end": "01:29:18", "text": "there. So, I started to reach out to"}, {"start": "01:29:16", "end": "01:29:20", "text": "academics and local orgs and I was"}, {"start": "01:29:18", "end": "01:29:23", "text": "trying to answer the question, how much"}, {"start": "01:29:20", "end": "01:29:26", "text": "water and power do these things actually"}, {"start": "01:29:23", "end": "01:29:28", "text": "use? Uh most of these orgs were working"}, {"start": "01:29:26", "end": "01:29:32", "text": "with limited information. Data center"}, {"start": "01:29:28", "end": "01:29:33", "text": "developers are very secretive. Uh when I"}, {"start": "01:29:32", "end": "01:29:35", "text": "tried to look for more information"}, {"start": "01:29:33", "end": "01:29:38", "text": "online, companies would offer to sell it"}, {"start": "01:29:35", "end": "01:29:41", "text": "to me for only $20,000 a year, right? So"}, {"start": "01:29:38", "end": "01:29:44", "text": "cheap. So I said, \"No, I think we can do"}, {"start": "01:29:41", "end": "01:29:46", "text": "better from public sources.\" So we"}, {"start": "01:29:44", "end": "01:29:49", "text": "didn't end up creating an AI product,"}, {"start": "01:29:46", "end": "01:29:50", "text": "but we built this thing called AI data"}, {"start": "01:29:49", "end": "01:29:54", "text": "centermap. I'll bring it up here. It's"}, {"start": "01:29:50", "end": "01:29:57", "text": "the website is a datacentermap.org. org."}, {"start": "01:29:54", "end": "01:30:00", "text": "It's public. It's a free resource. The"}, {"start": "01:29:57", "end": "01:30:02", "text": "data will be free forever along uh with"}, {"start": "01:30:00", "end": "01:30:04", "text": "the report and it will let you drill"}, {"start": "01:30:02", "end": "01:30:07", "text": "down to what is happening in your local"}, {"start": "01:30:04", "end": "01:30:10", "text": "area. You can go into a particular place"}, {"start": "01:30:07", "end": "01:30:13", "text": "and click on an area and it will tell"}, {"start": "01:30:10", "end": "01:30:15", "text": "you how much water is being displaced"}, {"start": "01:30:13", "end": "01:30:18", "text": "through our best academic estimations."}, {"start": "01:30:15", "end": "01:30:21", "text": "I'm using the same formulas and numbers"}, {"start": "01:30:18", "end": "01:30:23", "text": "um researchers are using uh the power"}, {"start": "01:30:21", "end": "01:30:26", "text": "displacement and also the heat island"}, {"start": "01:30:23", "end": "01:30:28", "text": "effect which is how much hotter they"}, {"start": "01:30:26", "end": "01:30:30", "text": "make the surrounding area. So this is"}, {"start": "01:30:28", "end": "01:30:32", "text": "meant to be a public service for you to"}, {"start": "01:30:30", "end": "01:30:34", "text": "get a visual of what's going on in your"}, {"start": "01:30:32", "end": "01:30:37", "text": "area and maybe even connect with some"}, {"start": "01:30:34", "end": "01:30:40", "text": "other concerned people."}, {"start": "01:30:37", "end": "01:30:43", "text": ">> And that's aidatenters.org"}, {"start": "01:30:40", "end": "01:30:47", "text": "aidatentermap.org"}, {"start": "01:30:43", "end": "01:30:48", "text": "map.org. Okay. And so what what areas"}, {"start": "01:30:47", "end": "01:30:50", "text": "stood out to you? What areas of concern"}, {"start": "01:30:48", "end": "01:30:53", "text": "stood out to you after putting all of"}, {"start": "01:30:50", "end": "01:30:56", "text": "this aggregate data together?"}, {"start": "01:30:53", "end": "01:30:59", "text": ">> Yeah. Well, it's it's a it's an issue"}, {"start": "01:30:56", "end": "01:31:01", "text": "that's affecting the whole country. Like"}, {"start": "01:30:59", "end": "01:31:05", "text": "just to just to zoom out a little bit,"}, {"start": "01:31:01", "end": "01:31:08", "text": "right? So we spent $2.5 trillion on data"}, {"start": "01:31:05", "end": "01:31:10", "text": "centers in 2025. With that amount of"}, {"start": "01:31:08", "end": "01:31:12", "text": "money, we could have built a nationwide"}, {"start": "01:31:10", "end": "01:31:14", "text": "high-speed rail network or, you know,"}, {"start": "01:31:12", "end": "01:31:16", "text": "done some crazy things. We could have"}, {"start": "01:31:14", "end": "01:31:18", "text": "renewed Republic infrastructure. We"}, {"start": "01:31:16", "end": "01:31:21", "text": "could have solved homelessness. But no,"}, {"start": "01:31:18", "end": "01:31:23", "text": "we spent it on hyperscalers. And it's"}, {"start": "01:31:21", "end": "01:31:25", "text": "these hyperscaled data centers that are"}, {"start": "01:31:23", "end": "01:31:28", "text": "the scary ones. I'm not talking about"}, {"start": "01:31:25", "end": "01:31:31", "text": "conventional data centers on the map."}, {"start": "01:31:28", "end": "01:31:33", "text": "These are the the black triangles,"}, {"start": "01:31:31", "end": "01:31:34", "text": "right, that are popping up all over. And"}, {"start": "01:31:33", "end": "01:31:37", "text": "as you can see, Clayton, it's it's"}, {"start": "01:31:34", "end": "01:31:38", "text": "pretty well distributed everywhere. Um"}, {"start": "01:31:37", "end": "01:31:41", "text": "right now, what you're seeing is"}, {"start": "01:31:38", "end": "01:31:44", "text": "hyperscalers on top of major US"}, {"start": "01:31:41", "end": "01:31:47", "text": "aquifers. Uh the most concentrated area"}, {"start": "01:31:44", "end": "01:31:50", "text": "of the United States is definitely in"}, {"start": "01:31:47", "end": "01:31:53", "text": "Virginia. Uh it's called data center"}, {"start": "01:31:50", "end": "01:31:55", "text": "alley for that region. Um and already in"}, {"start": "01:31:53", "end": "01:31:57", "text": "in Virginia their data centers are using"}, {"start": "01:31:55", "end": "01:32:00", "text": "more than 25%"}, {"start": "01:31:57", "end": "01:32:03", "text": "of the total power. So there are pockets"}, {"start": "01:32:00", "end": "01:32:06", "text": "everywhere but some really bad areas are"}, {"start": "01:32:03", "end": "01:32:08", "text": "Virginia, um Texas, central Texas and"}, {"start": "01:32:06", "end": "01:32:10", "text": "northern Texas and then also the"}, {"start": "01:32:08", "end": "01:32:14", "text": "southwest."}, {"start": "01:32:10", "end": "01:32:16", "text": ">> That's remarkable. 25% of the available"}, {"start": "01:32:14", "end": "01:32:18", "text": "power is going to those data centers and"}, {"start": "01:32:16", "end": "01:32:19", "text": "I didn't realize I guess I didn't"}, {"start": "01:32:18", "end": "01:32:22", "text": "realize that Virginia that area had"}, {"start": "01:32:19", "end": "01:32:23", "text": "become quite a corridor for data"}, {"start": "01:32:22", "end": "01:32:25", "text": "centers. What are local people saying"}, {"start": "01:32:23", "end": "01:32:28", "text": "about it there?"}, {"start": "01:32:25", "end": "01:32:31", "text": ">> Yeah. So I mean people are are very"}, {"start": "01:32:28", "end": "01:32:34", "text": "worried about the health impacts and not"}, {"start": "01:32:31", "end": "01:32:37", "text": "to mention the power in water. Um just"}, {"start": "01:32:34", "end": "01:32:40", "text": "just a little sidebar is is so these"}, {"start": "01:32:37", "end": "01:32:43", "text": "data centers are not reporting how much"}, {"start": "01:32:40", "end": "01:32:45", "text": "water they are using and when I looked"}, {"start": "01:32:43", "end": "01:32:47", "text": "at the transparency reports for uh"}, {"start": "01:32:45", "end": "01:32:50", "text": "Google and Meta and some of these big"}, {"start": "01:32:47", "end": "01:32:53", "text": "companies it turns out they're not even"}, {"start": "01:32:50", "end": "01:32:56", "text": "tracking the water. So there's not even"}, {"start": "01:32:53", "end": "01:32:58", "text": "a meter on the huge pipe they use to"}, {"start": "01:32:56", "end": "01:33:00", "text": "pump up water. um they're not even"}, {"start": "01:32:58", "end": "01:33:04", "text": "tracking, they're using their best"}, {"start": "01:33:00", "end": "01:33:07", "text": "estimates and so we don't really know"}, {"start": "01:33:04", "end": "01:33:09", "text": "how much water they're pulling out. Um"}, {"start": "01:33:07", "end": "01:33:12", "text": "Lawrence Berkeley National Lab estimates"}, {"start": "01:33:09", "end": "01:33:13", "text": "that less than onethird of their of data"}, {"start": "01:33:12", "end": "01:33:16", "text": "centers are measuring their water"}, {"start": "01:33:13", "end": "01:33:17", "text": "consumption and so they're not measuring"}, {"start": "01:33:16", "end": "01:33:20", "text": "their entire fleet which is a big"}, {"start": "01:33:17", "end": "01:33:24", "text": "danger. Uh but people in Virginia are"}, {"start": "01:33:20", "end": "01:33:27", "text": "already starting to suffer from um the"}, {"start": "01:33:24", "end": "01:33:30", "text": "health impacts. So, um, people are"}, {"start": "01:33:27", "end": "01:33:33", "text": "worried about the 4,000 backup diesel"}, {"start": "01:33:30", "end": "01:33:37", "text": "generators that are in this area of"}, {"start": "01:33:33", "end": "01:33:40", "text": "Virginia. Um, there have been studies to"}, {"start": "01:33:37", "end": "01:33:43", "text": "show that now they are sending these"}, {"start": "01:33:40", "end": "01:33:45", "text": "these are just backup diesel generators"}, {"start": "01:33:43", "end": "01:33:48", "text": "and they're sending as much if not more"}, {"start": "01:33:45", "end": "01:33:51", "text": "carbon monoxide, nitrous oxide, and and"}, {"start": "01:33:48", "end": "01:33:53", "text": "particulate matters as nearby power"}, {"start": "01:33:51", "end": "01:33:54", "text": "plants. But get this, these are these"}, {"start": "01:33:53", "end": "01:33:57", "text": "are just backups. So they're only"}, {"start": "01:33:54", "end": "01:34:00", "text": "running 30 minutes a day. If there is a"}, {"start": "01:33:57", "end": "01:34:02", "text": "grid emergency scenario, they would ask"}, {"start": "01:34:00", "end": "01:34:04", "text": "these data centers to run these"}, {"start": "01:34:02", "end": "01:34:08", "text": "generators full-time and they generate"}, {"start": "01:34:04", "end": "01:34:11", "text": "20 times as much pollution. So um that's"}, {"start": "01:34:08", "end": "01:34:13", "text": "a really scary situation to be in."}, {"start": "01:34:11", "end": "01:34:15", "text": ">> How quickly are these data centers being"}, {"start": "01:34:13", "end": "01:34:16", "text": "built? I saw a viral video this week,"}, {"start": "01:34:15", "end": "01:34:18", "text": "I'm sure all of us did, about this"}, {"start": "01:34:16", "end": "01:34:21", "text": "gentleman working for a at a Tesla"}, {"start": "01:34:18", "end": "01:34:22", "text": "robotics factory. I don't know if we can"}, {"start": "01:34:21", "end": "01:34:24", "text": "uh you know want to conflate the two,"}, {"start": "01:34:22", "end": "01:34:26", "text": "but he pointed out he said that they"}, {"start": "01:34:24", "end": "01:34:28", "text": "have us on 12-hour shifts and we're"}, {"start": "01:34:26", "end": "01:34:30", "text": "working 7 days a week and we're building"}, {"start": "01:34:28", "end": "01:34:31", "text": "these as quickly as we can and we're"}, {"start": "01:34:30", "end": "01:34:33", "text": "building as quickly as and quickly as"}, {"start": "01:34:31", "end": "01:34:35", "text": "possible. Um these data centers are"}, {"start": "01:34:33", "end": "01:34:38", "text": "popping up so fast. How how quickly are"}, {"start": "01:34:35", "end": "01:34:41", "text": "they being built?"}, {"start": "01:34:38", "end": "01:34:43", "text": ">> It is extremely rapid and I mean this"}, {"start": "01:34:41", "end": "01:34:45", "text": "map that we're looking at is one of the"}, {"start": "01:34:43", "end": "01:34:48", "text": "best sources of information. So, using"}, {"start": "01:34:45", "end": "01:34:51", "text": "this the the data off of this map, um"}, {"start": "01:34:48", "end": "01:34:53", "text": "we're seeing that we're already about"}, {"start": "01:34:51", "end": "01:34:57", "text": "41%"}, {"start": "01:34:53", "end": "01:35:00", "text": "through the planned data centers. Um but"}, {"start": "01:34:57", "end": "01:35:03", "text": "we're looking at most of the data"}, {"start": "01:35:00", "end": "01:35:08", "text": "centers being built in the next 24"}, {"start": "01:35:03", "end": "01:35:11", "text": "months. So we are going to add 40 54.7"}, {"start": "01:35:08", "end": "01:35:14", "text": "gigawatts which is doubling the current"}, {"start": "01:35:11", "end": "01:35:16", "text": "amount of data centers by the end of"}, {"start": "01:35:14", "end": "01:35:19", "text": "2027. Just to put it in perspective, a"}, {"start": "01:35:16", "end": "01:35:22", "text": "new hyperscaler is going live every four"}, {"start": "01:35:19", "end": "01:35:26", "text": "days from now until the end of 2027. So"}, {"start": "01:35:22", "end": "01:35:28", "text": "yes, they're moving extremely fast."}, {"start": "01:35:26", "end": "01:35:29", "text": ">> We're about to double the amount of data"}, {"start": "01:35:28", "end": "01:35:33", "text": "centers. even a little bit more than"}, {"start": "01:35:29", "end": "01:35:35", "text": "double because if only 41% so about 59%"}, {"start": "01:35:33", "end": "01:35:38", "text": "we're about to double that capacity in"}, {"start": "01:35:35", "end": "01:35:40", "text": "the next year"}, {"start": "01:35:38", "end": "01:35:42", "text": "we're doubling the number of these"}, {"start": "01:35:40", "end": "01:35:45", "text": "hypers scale data centers we're actually"}, {"start": "01:35:42", "end": "01:35:47", "text": "quadrupling the amount of power that"}, {"start": "01:35:45", "end": "01:35:49", "text": "they're using right now we're at uh this"}, {"start": "01:35:47", "end": "01:35:51", "text": "is my estimate and so you know people"}, {"start": "01:35:49", "end": "01:35:54", "text": "can push back if they have better"}, {"start": "01:35:51", "end": "01:35:56", "text": "numbers but uh we're at 53 gawatts of"}, {"start": "01:35:54", "end": "01:35:58", "text": "operational power which is around you"}, {"start": "01:35:56", "end": "01:36:02", "text": "know"}, {"start": "01:35:58", "end": "01:36:04", "text": "30 30 to 40 million US homes and we're"}, {"start": "01:36:02", "end": "01:36:07", "text": "going to go to"}, {"start": "01:36:04", "end": "01:36:11", "text": "150 additional gigawatts. So we're going"}, {"start": "01:36:07", "end": "01:36:14", "text": "to be at a total of 202 gawatt. This is"}, {"start": "01:36:11", "end": "01:36:16", "text": "roughly 40% of the entire power supply"}, {"start": "01:36:14", "end": "01:36:20", "text": "in the United States."}, {"start": "01:36:16", "end": "01:36:22", "text": ">> Where are we getting this power from?"}, {"start": "01:36:20", "end": "01:36:25", "text": "you know, um I don't think anyone's"}, {"start": "01:36:22", "end": "01:36:28", "text": "answered that and I think that the"}, {"start": "01:36:25", "end": "01:36:31", "text": "stability of the electric grid will"}, {"start": "01:36:28", "end": "01:36:34", "text": "suffer. We're already seeing in in some"}, {"start": "01:36:31", "end": "01:36:37", "text": "areas here kind of in data center alley"}, {"start": "01:36:34", "end": "01:36:40", "text": "over here there's a uh interconnection"}, {"start": "01:36:37", "end": "01:36:43", "text": "grid called PGM which actually is a"}, {"start": "01:36:40", "end": "01:36:45", "text": "interstate grid. It handles 13 states."}, {"start": "01:36:43", "end": "01:36:48", "text": "they've had to release emergency"}, {"start": "01:36:45", "end": "01:36:51", "text": "regulation so that not to not to protect"}, {"start": "01:36:48", "end": "01:36:53", "text": "people but to ensure that these data"}, {"start": "01:36:51", "end": "01:36:55", "text": "centers can continue to get built"}, {"start": "01:36:53", "end": "01:36:57", "text": "because doing the power studies was"}, {"start": "01:36:55", "end": "01:36:59", "text": "taking too long. You know, when you want"}, {"start": "01:36:57", "end": "01:37:01", "text": "to hook one of these things up, you have"}, {"start": "01:36:59", "end": "01:37:04", "text": "to do a study of, hey, is the power"}, {"start": "01:37:01", "end": "01:37:06", "text": "still going to be reliable? Um, and they"}, {"start": "01:37:04", "end": "01:37:08", "text": "do them in batches. Okay, so hey, here's"}, {"start": "01:37:06", "end": "01:37:10", "text": "these new demands and new supply on the"}, {"start": "01:37:08", "end": "01:37:13", "text": "grid. What's going to happen? So these"}, {"start": "01:37:10", "end": "01:37:16", "text": "were taking so long that they gave data"}, {"start": "01:37:13", "end": "01:37:19", "text": "centers creative new ways to bundle"}, {"start": "01:37:16", "end": "01:37:20", "text": "their own power. One is that they can be"}, {"start": "01:37:19", "end": "01:37:23", "text": "completely off the grid, although that's"}, {"start": "01:37:20", "end": "01:37:26", "text": "very unlikely unlikely. Two is they're"}, {"start": "01:37:23", "end": "01:37:28", "text": "actually building power plants uh"}, {"start": "01:37:26", "end": "01:37:32", "text": "directly on site. So this could be"}, {"start": "01:37:28", "end": "01:37:35", "text": "things like nuclear or solar or gas"}, {"start": "01:37:32", "end": "01:37:37", "text": "plants or even temporary gas turbines as"}, {"start": "01:37:35", "end": "01:37:40", "text": "uh some companies like X have been"}, {"start": "01:37:37", "end": "01:37:43", "text": "making popular. So um they're giving"}, {"start": "01:37:40", "end": "01:37:46", "text": "them ways to shortcut their power supply"}, {"start": "01:37:43", "end": "01:37:49", "text": "in the short term while they build the"}, {"start": "01:37:46", "end": "01:37:51", "text": "uh longer term power infrastructure. Um"}, {"start": "01:37:49", "end": "01:37:54", "text": "but you know just to say that the last"}, {"start": "01:37:51", "end": "01:37:58", "text": "auction that PGM had they weren't even"}, {"start": "01:37:54", "end": "01:38:01", "text": "able to meet the margin for safe power"}, {"start": "01:37:58", "end": "01:38:03", "text": "supply. So there was so much demand"}, {"start": "01:38:01", "end": "01:38:05", "text": "there that the grid isn't even able to"}, {"start": "01:38:03", "end": "01:38:08", "text": "supply it. So it's unclear to me where"}, {"start": "01:38:05", "end": "01:38:10", "text": "where the power is going to come from."}, {"start": "01:38:08", "end": "01:38:13", "text": ">> Yeah. these small nuclear reactors like"}, {"start": "01:38:10", "end": "01:38:15", "text": "companies like NE or SMR. I mean, is"}, {"start": "01:38:13", "end": "01:38:16", "text": "that the future here? Because how are we"}, {"start": "01:38:15", "end": "01:38:18", "text": "going to be able to support this? And"}, {"start": "01:38:16", "end": "01:38:19", "text": "Americans are wondering, what is this"}, {"start": "01:38:18", "end": "01:38:21", "text": "going to do to their bills, their"}, {"start": "01:38:19", "end": "01:38:23", "text": "electric bills? Are they going to be cut"}, {"start": "01:38:21", "end": "01:38:25", "text": "off from that, separated from it? So, it"}, {"start": "01:38:23", "end": "01:38:27", "text": "will have no effect. You know, you heard"}, {"start": "01:38:25", "end": "01:38:29", "text": "Kevin Olirri on his interview with"}, {"start": "01:38:27", "end": "01:38:31", "text": "Tucker Carlson a few weeks ago saying"}, {"start": "01:38:29", "end": "01:38:32", "text": "that he didn't see that this was not"}, {"start": "01:38:31", "end": "01:38:35", "text": "going to affect people's power bills at"}, {"start": "01:38:32", "end": "01:38:38", "text": "all. that they would the companies"}, {"start": "01:38:35", "end": "01:38:40", "text": "themselves would pay to offset or they'd"}, {"start": "01:38:38", "end": "01:38:43", "text": "be open to paying to offset those costs."}, {"start": "01:38:40", "end": "01:38:45", "text": "Do you believe that?"}, {"start": "01:38:43", "end": "01:38:47", "text": ">> I think if they are going to build their"}, {"start": "01:38:45", "end": "01:38:49", "text": "own electric infrastructure, then keep"}, {"start": "01:38:47", "end": "01:38:53", "text": "them off grid. We'll see how that works"}, {"start": "01:38:49", "end": "01:38:55", "text": "out. No, it's I I there's there's no way"}, {"start": "01:38:53", "end": "01:38:57", "text": "in hell, right? there's there's no way"}, {"start": "01:38:55", "end": "01:38:59", "text": "in hell that they're gonna build all"}, {"start": "01:38:57", "end": "01:39:01", "text": "this power themselves and that the costs"}, {"start": "01:38:59", "end": "01:39:03", "text": "are going to be passed down to the"}, {"start": "01:39:01", "end": "01:39:06", "text": "consumers. You know, already Bloomberg"}, {"start": "01:39:03", "end": "01:39:10", "text": "reported this like early this year, last"}, {"start": "01:39:06", "end": "01:39:13", "text": "year, um that prices in some of these"}, {"start": "01:39:10", "end": "01:39:15", "text": "dense spots have already tripled."}, {"start": "01:39:13", "end": "01:39:18", "text": "Electric prices have tripled. And I'm"}, {"start": "01:39:15", "end": "01:39:21", "text": "sure you heard that story in uh Nevada"}, {"start": "01:39:18", "end": "01:39:23", "text": "where a power company is just saying,"}, {"start": "01:39:21", "end": "01:39:25", "text": "\"Hey, we're not going to be able to"}, {"start": "01:39:23", "end": "01:39:27", "text": "supply you 50,000 homes with energy."}, {"start": "01:39:25", "end": "01:39:29", "text": "We're going to do this data center"}, {"start": "01:39:27", "end": "01:39:33", "text": "instead. So, you're going to have to"}, {"start": "01:39:29", "end": "01:39:36", "text": "figure something else out.\" Um, so it's"}, {"start": "01:39:33", "end": "01:39:38", "text": "uh I I do think it's another way to push"}, {"start": "01:39:36", "end": "01:39:40", "text": "people towards you will own nothing and"}, {"start": "01:39:38", "end": "01:39:43", "text": "be happy. This is one of the only things"}, {"start": "01:39:40", "end": "01:39:45", "text": "we have left is our power and our water."}, {"start": "01:39:43", "end": "01:39:48", "text": "So, uh, we have to do everything in our"}, {"start": "01:39:45", "end": "01:39:51", "text": "power to to raise awareness about this."}, {"start": "01:39:48", "end": "01:39:53", "text": ">> I mean, it's insane. And now, you know,"}, {"start": "01:39:51", "end": "01:39:54", "text": "I keep seeing videos from people saying"}, {"start": "01:39:53", "end": "01:39:56", "text": "like, you know, create your own water"}, {"start": "01:39:54", "end": "01:39:59", "text": "supply at your house. Companies like"}, {"start": "01:39:56", "end": "01:40:02", "text": "Altitude and otherwise, like, you know,"}, {"start": "01:39:59", "end": "01:40:05", "text": "just buy a $30,000 water purification"}, {"start": "01:40:02", "end": "01:40:06", "text": "system that just pulls it from the air."}, {"start": "01:40:05", "end": "01:40:08", "text": "Um, you know, where are people going to"}, {"start": "01:40:06", "end": "01:40:10", "text": "get $30,000 just to be able to get their"}, {"start": "01:40:08", "end": "01:40:11", "text": "own water supply? because these"}, {"start": "01:40:10", "end": "01:40:13", "text": "companies are taking all the water and"}, {"start": "01:40:11", "end": "01:40:15", "text": "they're taking all the electricity. Um"}, {"start": "01:40:13", "end": "01:40:18", "text": "it's I don't think people understand"}, {"start": "01:40:15", "end": "01:40:20", "text": "what's coming. Um this has really become"}, {"start": "01:40:18", "end": "01:40:22", "text": "like a national security issue for the"}, {"start": "01:40:20", "end": "01:40:24", "text": "United States of America. Like this is"}, {"start": "01:40:22", "end": "01:40:26", "text": "part of President Trump's plan now"}, {"start": "01:40:24", "end": "01:40:29", "text": "really for like national security having"}, {"start": "01:40:26", "end": "01:40:32", "text": "these data and AI centers for the future"}, {"start": "01:40:29", "end": "01:40:35", "text": "of warfare. U everything in the United"}, {"start": "01:40:32", "end": "01:40:37", "text": "States is all tied to the future of"}, {"start": "01:40:35", "end": "01:40:39", "text": "these data centers. Um, and so Americans"}, {"start": "01:40:37", "end": "01:40:41", "text": "are really being pushed to the side here"}, {"start": "01:40:39", "end": "01:40:43", "text": "because now it's a national security"}, {"start": "01:40:41", "end": "01:40:45", "text": "issue and if you criticize it, sorry,"}, {"start": "01:40:43", "end": "01:40:47", "text": "that's that's tough. You're not going to"}, {"start": "01:40:45", "end": "01:40:48", "text": "you have to deal with it. It's a"}, {"start": "01:40:47", "end": "01:40:50", "text": "national security issue. And you're"}, {"start": "01:40:48", "end": "01:40:51", "text": "lucky, by the way, and actually many of"}, {"start": "01:40:50", "end": "01:40:52", "text": "these families are now dealing with"}, {"start": "01:40:51", "end": "01:40:54", "text": "imminent domain."}, {"start": "01:40:52", "end": "01:40:56", "text": ">> These companies coming in in Georgia and"}, {"start": "01:40:54", "end": "01:40:58", "text": "otherwise coming in and taking their"}, {"start": "01:40:56", "end": "01:40:59", "text": "homes in order to build these data"}, {"start": "01:40:58", "end": "01:41:00", "text": "centers."}, {"start": "01:40:59", "end": "01:41:04", "text": ">> Sorry, we're taking your house, tearing"}, {"start": "01:41:00", "end": "01:41:07", "text": "it down, and building a data center."}, {"start": "01:41:04", "end": "01:41:09", "text": "Yeah, absolutely. So, like why why are"}, {"start": "01:41:07", "end": "01:41:12", "text": "they doing this? It comes down to that"}, {"start": "01:41:09", "end": "01:41:16", "text": "question and and you brought up the AI"}, {"start": "01:41:12", "end": "01:41:18", "text": "war, uh the cyber AI war that our govern"}, {"start": "01:41:16", "end": "01:41:22", "text": "government is currently preparing for."}, {"start": "01:41:18", "end": "01:41:25", "text": "Um you know, not just the organizations"}, {"start": "01:41:22", "end": "01:41:27", "text": "like NIST, but uh people like Daario,"}, {"start": "01:41:25", "end": "01:41:33", "text": "CEO of Enthropic, one of the most"}, {"start": "01:41:27", "end": "01:41:35", "text": "popular um AI models out there. So like"}, {"start": "01:41:33", "end": "01:41:38", "text": "they're they're act like they're they're"}, {"start": "01:41:35", "end": "01:41:41", "text": "talking about this AI as if it was a"}, {"start": "01:41:38", "end": "01:41:43", "text": "nuclear weapon. So when Kevin Olirri got"}, {"start": "01:41:41", "end": "01:41:45", "text": "put on the spot by Tucker Carlson,"}, {"start": "01:41:43", "end": "01:41:47", "text": "that's what he said. Should we just let"}, {"start": "01:41:45", "end": "01:41:50", "text": "China build all these data centers and"}, {"start": "01:41:47", "end": "01:41:52", "text": "get ahead of us in the AI race? So we're"}, {"start": "01:41:50", "end": "01:41:55", "text": "living through another cold war. It's"}, {"start": "01:41:52", "end": "01:41:58", "text": "not just Kevin saying this. It's also"}, {"start": "01:41:55", "end": "01:42:00", "text": "Daario Amodi, CEO of Enthropic, who has"}, {"start": "01:41:58", "end": "01:42:03", "text": "said that he he likes to say, \"Hey,"}, {"start": "01:42:00", "end": "01:42:08", "text": "China is only eight months behind us in"}, {"start": "01:42:03", "end": "01:42:10", "text": "frontier AI.\" And Anthropic um they they"}, {"start": "01:42:08", "end": "01:42:12", "text": "have gone through a the first AI"}, {"start": "01:42:10", "end": "01:42:14", "text": "orchestrated cyber espionage campaign"}, {"start": "01:42:12", "end": "01:42:16", "text": "which didn't require any human"}, {"start": "01:42:14", "end": "01:42:19", "text": "intervention and they used the attackers"}, {"start": "01:42:16", "end": "01:42:22", "text": "used Claude. I guess they suspect that"}, {"start": "01:42:19", "end": "01:42:24", "text": "this is a foreign adversary like China."}, {"start": "01:42:22", "end": "01:42:26", "text": "So this is this is kind of the"}, {"start": "01:42:24", "end": "01:42:29", "text": "explanation why they're racing to build"}, {"start": "01:42:26", "end": "01:42:32", "text": "these things. However, it's very very"}, {"start": "01:42:29", "end": "01:42:34", "text": "shortsighted. Uh China has already gone"}, {"start": "01:42:32", "end": "01:42:36", "text": "through this boom. They've tried to"}, {"start": "01:42:34", "end": "01:42:39", "text": "build their data centers and now in"}, {"start": "01:42:36", "end": "01:42:41", "text": "2025, uh local Chinese outlets are"}, {"start": "01:42:39", "end": "01:42:43", "text": "reporting that 80% of the data centers"}, {"start": "01:42:41", "end": "01:42:46", "text": "in China are sitting completely idle."}, {"start": "01:42:43", "end": "01:42:49", "text": "They don't even have a customer. So, how"}, {"start": "01:42:46", "end": "01:42:51", "text": "do we expect in America that we're going"}, {"start": "01:42:49", "end": "01:42:52", "text": "to fill these data centers when more"}, {"start": "01:42:51", "end": "01:42:53", "text": "people in China are using AI and"}, {"start": "01:42:52", "end": "01:42:56", "text": "robotics?"}, {"start": "01:42:53", "end": "01:42:58", "text": ">> So, that Okay, that's interesting. Does"}, {"start": "01:42:56", "end": "01:43:01", "text": "that leads me to my question about this"}, {"start": "01:42:58", "end": "01:43:02", "text": "quote unquote AI bubble that we could be"}, {"start": "01:43:01", "end": "01:43:04", "text": "about to experience in the United"}, {"start": "01:43:02", "end": "01:43:06", "text": "States. You keep hearing rumblings about"}, {"start": "01:43:04", "end": "01:43:08", "text": "it that we are about to see a collapse"}, {"start": "01:43:06", "end": "01:43:10", "text": "in the US stock market. We're going to"}, {"start": "01:43:08", "end": "01:43:12", "text": "see a big collapse and the AI bubble is"}, {"start": "01:43:10", "end": "01:43:14", "text": "going to be at the heart of it. a lot of"}, {"start": "01:43:12", "end": "01:43:15", "text": "overvalued companies burning through"}, {"start": "01:43:14", "end": "01:43:17", "text": "revenue that you're burning through"}, {"start": "01:43:15", "end": "01:43:20", "text": "money that they don't have and it's all"}, {"start": "01:43:17", "end": "01:43:22", "text": "fake. So when you look at China and you"}, {"start": "01:43:20", "end": "01:43:25", "text": "have these AI data centers sitting there"}, {"start": "01:43:22", "end": "01:43:26", "text": "vacant, idle, no one's using them. Do"}, {"start": "01:43:25", "end": "01:43:30", "text": "you think the same thing is about to"}, {"start": "01:43:26", "end": "01:43:30", "text": "happen in the US?"}, {"start": "01:43:30", "end": "01:43:34", "text": ">> I I think so. I think that a lot of"}, {"start": "01:43:32", "end": "01:43:35", "text": "people who invested in these data"}, {"start": "01:43:34", "end": "01:43:38", "text": "centers, besides maybe the biggest"}, {"start": "01:43:35", "end": "01:43:40", "text": "players, are going to lose a lot of"}, {"start": "01:43:38", "end": "01:43:42", "text": "money. And it's it's very very"}, {"start": "01:43:40", "end": "01:43:44", "text": "shortsighted why they would build this."}, {"start": "01:43:42", "end": "01:43:46", "text": "I think that there is something"}, {"start": "01:43:44", "end": "01:43:48", "text": "happening behind the scenes to encourage"}, {"start": "01:43:46", "end": "01:43:51", "text": "people to build this. I know that"}, {"start": "01:43:48", "end": "01:43:54", "text": "there's a lot of incompetence and greed"}, {"start": "01:43:51", "end": "01:43:58", "text": "in our economy today, but not even they"}, {"start": "01:43:54", "end": "01:44:01", "text": "can be this stupid. Um, China has uh 600"}, {"start": "01:43:58", "end": "01:44:03", "text": "million people there already using AI."}, {"start": "01:44:01", "end": "01:44:06", "text": "They have more people using AI than we"}, {"start": "01:44:03", "end": "01:44:09", "text": "have using the internet here in the US."}, {"start": "01:44:06", "end": "01:44:12", "text": "They're also very far ahead on robotics"}, {"start": "01:44:09", "end": "01:44:14", "text": "and self-driving cars. That's a norm in"}, {"start": "01:44:12", "end": "01:44:16", "text": "China. If they're not using all of their"}, {"start": "01:44:14", "end": "01:44:18", "text": "AI compute, they're not even close to."}, {"start": "01:44:16", "end": "01:44:20", "text": "There's just no way we're ever going to"}, {"start": "01:44:18", "end": "01:44:22", "text": "reach that. It's never meant to be for"}, {"start": "01:44:20", "end": "01:44:24", "text": "consumers. Now, there might be another"}, {"start": "01:44:22", "end": "01:44:26", "text": "reason, but it's not meant for"}, {"start": "01:44:24", "end": "01:44:28", "text": "consumers."}, {"start": "01:44:26", "end": "01:44:30", "text": ">> So, they're not using this AI compute."}, {"start": "01:44:28", "end": "01:44:33", "text": "They've overbuilt and but they're using"}, {"start": "01:44:30", "end": "01:44:36", "text": "more AI than we are. So, the disparity"}, {"start": "01:44:33", "end": "01:44:38", "text": "seems obvious. Um, here, you know, in"}, {"start": "01:44:36", "end": "01:44:40", "text": "the US, we're going to have all these"}, {"start": "01:44:38", "end": "01:44:41", "text": "data centers. They're going to be ghost"}, {"start": "01:44:40", "end": "01:44:42", "text": "towns. I mean, they'll make movies about"}, {"start": "01:44:41", "end": "01:44:44", "text": "it. You know, you'll drive through"}, {"start": "01:44:42", "end": "01:44:45", "text": "certain little towns and you're going to"}, {"start": "01:44:44", "end": "01:44:48", "text": "see this. Oh, what's that? Oh, that was"}, {"start": "01:44:45", "end": "01:44:50", "text": "a data that remember remember in 2026"}, {"start": "01:44:48", "end": "01:44:52", "text": "that was a data center that was built."}, {"start": "01:44:50", "end": "01:44:54", "text": "Did anyone ever use it?"}, {"start": "01:44:52", "end": "01:44:55", "text": ">> No, no one ever used it and now it's a"}, {"start": "01:44:54", "end": "01:44:57", "text": "ghost town. You know, that's what you're"}, {"start": "01:44:55", "end": "01:45:00", "text": "going to see like ghost towns of AI data"}, {"start": "01:44:57", "end": "01:45:02", "text": "centers everywhere."}, {"start": "01:45:00", "end": "01:45:04", "text": ">> There there's no doubt about that."}, {"start": "01:45:02", "end": "01:45:06", "text": "There's there I mean there is way too"}, {"start": "01:45:04", "end": "01:45:08", "text": "many of these things. This is my"}, {"start": "01:45:06", "end": "01:45:11", "text": "personal opinion, but I think we could"}, {"start": "01:45:08", "end": "01:45:13", "text": "do without 90% of these data centers."}, {"start": "01:45:11", "end": "01:45:15", "text": "More more than 90. And just to give"}, {"start": "01:45:13", "end": "01:45:20", "text": "people some scale, think about this."}, {"start": "01:45:15", "end": "01:45:22", "text": "Before 2025, all of Google and all of"}, {"start": "01:45:20", "end": "01:45:26", "text": "Microsoft's data centers around the"}, {"start": "01:45:22", "end": "01:45:28", "text": "planet totaled four gigawatts each."}, {"start": "01:45:26", "end": "01:45:30", "text": "Right? So the entire data centers for"}, {"start": "01:45:28", "end": "01:45:32", "text": "these companies across the planet, four"}, {"start": "01:45:30", "end": "01:45:36", "text": "gigawatts. They use this to support"}, {"start": "01:45:32", "end": "01:45:38", "text": "billions upon billions of people. Um,"}, {"start": "01:45:36", "end": "01:45:40", "text": "and you know, these aren't AI data"}, {"start": "01:45:38", "end": "01:45:42", "text": "centers, but they were running AI"}, {"start": "01:45:40", "end": "01:45:46", "text": "services for people. And uh, it was"}, {"start": "01:45:42", "end": "01:45:47", "text": "completely fine. So, how do we go from 4"}, {"start": "01:45:46", "end": "01:45:51", "text": "gawatt for an entire global"}, {"start": "01:45:47", "end": "01:45:54", "text": "infrastructure to 9 gawatt for a single"}, {"start": "01:45:51", "end": "01:45:57", "text": "data center? Some people say that it"}, {"start": "01:45:54", "end": "01:45:58", "text": "could be that this is what is needed to"}, {"start": "01:45:57", "end": "01:46:01", "text": "roll out the next phase of uh"}, {"start": "01:45:58", "end": "01:46:03", "text": "surveillance and predictive policing."}, {"start": "01:46:01", "end": "01:46:04", "text": ">> So that's also a pretty plausible"}, {"start": "01:46:03", "end": "01:46:05", "text": "theory."}, {"start": "01:46:04", "end": "01:46:07", "text": ">> So one of the things that I've been"}, {"start": "01:46:05", "end": "01:46:08", "text": "grappling with and you're hearing"}, {"start": "01:46:07", "end": "01:46:12", "text": "discussions from friends of the show"}, {"start": "01:46:08", "end": "01:46:13", "text": "like David Ike and others who are saying"}, {"start": "01:46:12", "end": "01:46:17", "text": "we're we're moving towards this like"}, {"start": "01:46:13", "end": "01:46:21", "text": "transhumanist agenda, this merging of AI"}, {"start": "01:46:17", "end": "01:46:23", "text": "with human beings and how do we stop"}, {"start": "01:46:21", "end": "01:46:24", "text": "this? I mean, how do we do we just"}, {"start": "01:46:23", "end": "01:46:28", "text": "completely go dark and move out to"}, {"start": "01:46:24", "end": "01:46:31", "text": "Wyoming somewhere in a farm? Um, and it"}, {"start": "01:46:28", "end": "01:46:33", "text": "seems pretty darn dark and nefarious."}, {"start": "01:46:31", "end": "01:46:36", "text": "Um, if you see like the the demonic"}, {"start": "01:46:33", "end": "01:46:37", "text": "people that run Washington DC and the"}, {"start": "01:46:36", "end": "01:46:39", "text": "people that are involved in our"}, {"start": "01:46:37", "end": "01:46:40", "text": "intelligence communities, absolutely the"}, {"start": "01:46:39", "end": "01:46:43", "text": "some of the darkest people. So, I guess"}, {"start": "01:46:40", "end": "01:46:46", "text": "I'll ask you the esoteric question. Why"}, {"start": "01:46:43", "end": "01:46:50", "text": "do you think this is happening?"}, {"start": "01:46:46", "end": "01:46:53", "text": "I think it's an opportunity to reconnect"}, {"start": "01:46:50", "end": "01:46:56", "text": "with with nature and it's kind of a sad"}, {"start": "01:46:53", "end": "01:46:58", "text": "part about human nature is that"}, {"start": "01:46:56", "end": "01:47:01", "text": "sometimes things have to be threatened"}, {"start": "01:46:58", "end": "01:47:04", "text": "for us to get to for us to care. So for"}, {"start": "01:47:01", "end": "01:47:07", "text": "me when I started I I had no idea how an"}, {"start": "01:47:04", "end": "01:47:10", "text": "aquifer worked or how you know my water"}, {"start": "01:47:07", "end": "01:47:12", "text": "got to me up into my house. And this it"}, {"start": "01:47:10", "end": "01:47:16", "text": "being threatened actually got me to"}, {"start": "01:47:12", "end": "01:47:18", "text": "care. it uh now now it's I see the"}, {"start": "01:47:16", "end": "01:47:20", "text": "beauty of how these systems how mother"}, {"start": "01:47:18", "end": "01:47:22", "text": "nature is is sustaining all life that"}, {"start": "01:47:20", "end": "01:47:24", "text": "there's this ground that sits underneath"}, {"start": "01:47:22", "end": "01:47:25", "text": "uh there's this water that sits"}, {"start": "01:47:24", "end": "01:47:27", "text": "underneath the ground for thousands of"}, {"start": "01:47:25", "end": "01:47:30", "text": "years just waiting for us to pull it up"}, {"start": "01:47:27", "end": "01:47:32", "text": "to the surface and we have to take care"}, {"start": "01:47:30", "end": "01:47:35", "text": "of the planet just as it is taking care"}, {"start": "01:47:32", "end": "01:47:37", "text": "of us. I know that is um kind of weird."}, {"start": "01:47:35", "end": "01:47:39", "text": "It sounds like maybe liberal for me to"}, {"start": "01:47:37", "end": "01:47:42", "text": "say it, but I think that that's one of"}, {"start": "01:47:39", "end": "01:47:44", "text": "the areas where um the left is doing a"}, {"start": "01:47:42", "end": "01:47:45", "text": "really good job in fighting back and"}, {"start": "01:47:44", "end": "01:47:47", "text": "they're getting data centers kicked out"}, {"start": "01:47:45", "end": "01:47:49", "text": "of their country. And finally, I think"}, {"start": "01:47:47", "end": "01:47:51", "text": "this is a reason that both the left and"}, {"start": "01:47:49", "end": "01:47:53", "text": "the right can rally around and and work"}, {"start": "01:47:51", "end": "01:47:55", "text": "together because at the end of the day,"}, {"start": "01:47:53", "end": "01:47:58", "text": "we're all we're all just humans living"}, {"start": "01:47:55", "end": "01:48:01", "text": "on this planet. So, I think um I think"}, {"start": "01:47:58", "end": "01:48:05", "text": "with that being said, there's a lot that"}, {"start": "01:48:01", "end": "01:48:08", "text": "you can do. one is to kick out the AI"}, {"start": "01:48:05", "end": "01:48:11", "text": "that's on your local devices."}, {"start": "01:48:08", "end": "01:48:12", "text": "Um, and two, just to get connected with"}, {"start": "01:48:11", "end": "01:48:14", "text": "the efforts that are happening locally."}, {"start": "01:48:12", "end": "01:48:17", "text": "And that's what I want to do with this"}, {"start": "01:48:14", "end": "01:48:19", "text": "map. Right now, it's just giving you"}, {"start": "01:48:17", "end": "01:48:22", "text": "information about the data centers, but"}, {"start": "01:48:19", "end": "01:48:24", "text": "soon there will be a way to adopt a data"}, {"start": "01:48:22", "end": "01:48:26", "text": "center. So, you'll be able to come into"}, {"start": "01:48:24", "end": "01:48:28", "text": "any one of these and there will actually"}, {"start": "01:48:26", "end": "01:48:30", "text": "be a button here to say, \"Hey, get"}, {"start": "01:48:28", "end": "01:48:32", "text": "connected with your local organization.\""}, {"start": "01:48:30", "end": "01:48:34", "text": "and it'll take you directly to their"}, {"start": "01:48:32", "end": "01:48:37", "text": "website. So, you know, we're finding"}, {"start": "01:48:34", "end": "01:48:39", "text": "that people are remembering how to get"}, {"start": "01:48:37", "end": "01:48:42", "text": "involved with their local community."}, {"start": "01:48:39", "end": "01:48:44", "text": "Again, you have to you have to keep our"}, {"start": "01:48:42", "end": "01:48:46", "text": "county and city officials accountable."}, {"start": "01:48:44", "end": "01:48:50", "text": "You have to tell them, \"Hey, we live"}, {"start": "01:48:46", "end": "01:48:51", "text": "here, too. This is this is our land.\""}, {"start": "01:48:50", "end": "01:48:52", "text": ">> Yeah. I think and you're seeing this"}, {"start": "01:48:51", "end": "01:48:54", "text": "movement, you know, among young people"}, {"start": "01:48:52", "end": "01:48:56", "text": "now. I I just saw a report like last"}, {"start": "01:48:54", "end": "01:48:58", "text": "week, people are moving away from"}, {"start": "01:48:56", "end": "01:49:00", "text": "regular smartphones and they're moving"}, {"start": "01:48:58", "end": "01:49:02", "text": "to dumb phones. Like the younger"}, {"start": "01:49:00", "end": "01:49:04", "text": "generation, they don't want smartphones."}, {"start": "01:49:02", "end": "01:49:05", "text": "They're buying those old flip phones and"}, {"start": "01:49:04", "end": "01:49:07", "text": "and so forth. I mean, and at the heart"}, {"start": "01:49:05", "end": "01:49:10", "text": "of it, obviously, what you guys do at"}, {"start": "01:49:07", "end": "01:49:13", "text": "Above Phone, which is not making them"}, {"start": "01:49:10", "end": "01:49:17", "text": "dumb, but removing a lot of that all of"}, {"start": "01:49:13", "end": "01:49:20", "text": "that crust that gets us caught up in"}, {"start": "01:49:17", "end": "01:49:21", "text": "this AI ecology. Um, and so I love that"}, {"start": "01:49:20", "end": "01:49:24", "text": "what you guys do. You guys just pushed"}, {"start": "01:49:21", "end": "01:49:26", "text": "out a new big update, right?"}, {"start": "01:49:24", "end": "01:49:29", "text": ">> Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, we we like to"}, {"start": "01:49:26", "end": "01:49:34", "text": "call it a wise phone. So, it's it's it's"}, {"start": "01:49:29", "end": "01:49:36", "text": "smart, but it's it's wise. So, um we"}, {"start": "01:49:34", "end": "01:49:38", "text": "have been around for five years now, and"}, {"start": "01:49:36", "end": "01:49:39", "text": "this is a phone that can do anything"}, {"start": "01:49:38", "end": "01:49:41", "text": "your normal phone can do. Here, I'll"}, {"start": "01:49:39", "end": "01:49:43", "text": "bring it up on screen. This is what it"}, {"start": "01:49:41", "end": "01:49:46", "text": "looks like. So, right, if you've got all"}, {"start": "01:49:43", "end": "01:49:49", "text": "your apps here, you've got different app"}, {"start": "01:49:46", "end": "01:49:52", "text": "stores that you can use. But the most"}, {"start": "01:49:49", "end": "01:49:55", "text": "important part of this is that one, it's"}, {"start": "01:49:52", "end": "01:49:57", "text": "not surveilling you. Two, there's no AI"}, {"start": "01:49:55", "end": "01:50:00", "text": "layer inside the phone. If you're"}, {"start": "01:49:57", "end": "01:50:03", "text": "working with a Google or Samsung or"}, {"start": "01:50:00", "end": "01:50:06", "text": "iPhone, it turns out they rolled out an"}, {"start": "01:50:03", "end": "01:50:08", "text": "update and now AI is embedded into the"}, {"start": "01:50:06", "end": "01:50:11", "text": "operating system. There's no way to turn"}, {"start": "01:50:08", "end": "01:50:13", "text": "it off. And um there's ways to try and"}, {"start": "01:50:11", "end": "01:50:15", "text": "disable it. I cover these in the report,"}, {"start": "01:50:13", "end": "01:50:17", "text": "so download that if you'd like, but"}, {"start": "01:50:15", "end": "01:50:19", "text": "there's no way to permanently turn it"}, {"start": "01:50:17", "end": "01:50:22", "text": "off. So people need to realize even if"}, {"start": "01:50:19", "end": "01:50:24", "text": "they're ideologically opposed to these"}, {"start": "01:50:22", "end": "01:50:28", "text": "data centers, their phones are"}, {"start": "01:50:24", "end": "01:50:30", "text": "justifying their existence. So um to"}, {"start": "01:50:28", "end": "01:50:31", "text": "start to use open- source software like"}, {"start": "01:50:30", "end": "01:50:35", "text": "the above phone which is running"}, {"start": "01:50:31", "end": "01:50:37", "text": "graphine OS this doesn't have a big tech"}, {"start": "01:50:35", "end": "01:50:40", "text": "layer on it and you can do pretty much"}, {"start": "01:50:37", "end": "01:50:42", "text": "everything that you normally do. You can"}, {"start": "01:50:40", "end": "01:50:45", "text": "even uh you can even watch YouTube,"}, {"start": "01:50:42", "end": "01:50:48", "text": "right? We can go to redacted and we can"}, {"start": "01:50:45", "end": "01:50:50", "text": "download those videos directly to our"}, {"start": "01:50:48", "end": "01:50:51", "text": "device, right? You can play them in the"}, {"start": "01:50:50", "end": "01:50:54", "text": "background. You can get this without"}, {"start": "01:50:51", "end": "01:50:56", "text": "ads. And again, there's no AI, there's"}, {"start": "01:50:54", "end": "01:50:58", "text": "no digital ID running in it. So, we"}, {"start": "01:50:56", "end": "01:51:00", "text": "really need to um we need to take"}, {"start": "01:50:58", "end": "01:51:02", "text": "matters in our own hands and build a"}, {"start": "01:51:00", "end": "01:51:04", "text": "network of free technology to serve as"}, {"start": "01:51:02", "end": "01:51:06", "text": "the alternatives. So, I really like what"}, {"start": "01:51:04", "end": "01:51:08", "text": "the kids are doing with their dumb"}, {"start": "01:51:06", "end": "01:51:11", "text": "phones and I think there's solutions for"}, {"start": "01:51:08", "end": "01:51:13", "text": "uh for everyone at every level. Well, I"}, {"start": "01:51:11", "end": "01:51:15", "text": "love the above phone. Um, I have one and"}, {"start": "01:51:13", "end": "01:51:17", "text": "I use it. So, thank you so much for"}, {"start": "01:51:15", "end": "01:51:18", "text": "that. Um, if people want to grab the"}, {"start": "01:51:17", "end": "01:51:20", "text": "report, I'll put it in the description"}, {"start": "01:51:18", "end": "01:51:22", "text": "of today's show so people can grab it"}, {"start": "01:51:20", "end": "01:51:24", "text": "and learn more about these data centers"}, {"start": "01:51:22", "end": "01:51:27", "text": "and what this is what this is doing to"}, {"start": "01:51:24", "end": "01:51:29", "text": "the local ecology and get connected and"}, {"start": "01:51:27", "end": "01:51:32", "text": "start fighting back against all of this"}, {"start": "01:51:29", "end": "01:51:33", "text": "um before we lose ourselves before it's"}, {"start": "01:51:32", "end": "01:51:34", "text": "too late. Um, because we're getting"}, {"start": "01:51:33", "end": "01:51:37", "text": "pretty darn close to that at this"}, {"start": "01:51:34", "end": "01:51:39", "text": "moment, I think. Hakee, thank you so"}, {"start": "01:51:37", "end": "01:51:40", "text": "much. Um, really appreciate you joining"}, {"start": "01:51:39", "end": "01:51:41", "text": "us here. Thank you for the report and"}, {"start": "01:51:40", "end": "01:51:43", "text": "all the hard work that you guys did on"}, {"start": "01:51:41", "end": "01:51:45", "text": "this."}, {"start": "01:51:43", "end": "01:51:46", "text": ">> Clayton, it's a pleasure. Thanks. Thanks"}, {"start": "01:51:45", "end": "01:51:47", "text": "for everything that you're doing. Thanks"}, {"start": "01:51:46", "end": "01:51:49", "text": "for having me on. Thanks to everyone"}, {"start": "01:51:47", "end": "01:51:50", "text": "who's watching."}, {"start": "01:51:49", "end": "01:51:51", "text": ">> Appreciate it, Hakee."}, {"start": "01:51:50", "end": "01:51:53", "text": ">> Blessings. 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[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "Russia is readying something big,"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "perhaps an end move finally to this war"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "in Ukraine. And just a short time ago,"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "about an hour ago, Vladimir Zalinsky"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "releasing a video message um calling on"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "what he expects to happen inside of"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "Russia should this escalate beyond where"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "we currently are, threatening uh attacks"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "on oil infrastructure, that Ukraine will"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "strike back in a big way, but also"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "asking the United States and Congress"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "for additional assistance and whatever"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "they can do, of course, to make sure"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "that we are providing weapons and money"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "into Ukraine. Watch this."}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "Foreign"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "speech. Foreign speech. Foreign speech."}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "Okay. Meanwhile, of course, the other"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "day we highlighted the attack on the"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "girls school or the the girls that were"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "killed at the college inside of Russia"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "um and devastating those door 21 21"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "young girls killed at the Starblesque"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "college there. Um, journalists were"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "invited to come, by the way, uh, from"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "anywhere. They were invited to come and"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "see, unlike what happens in Israel. Of"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "course, you're not, you know,"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "journalists are not invited to see."}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "They're IDF selectively picks where"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "they're going to be sending people, but"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "journalists from all over were invited"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "to come. CNN turned them down, of"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "course, to see the terrorist attack on"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "this college. Um, also the BBC turned"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "them down. However, CNN just released a"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "brand new report highlighting the"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "highlighting Ukraine's own drone program"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "and how they're able to strike deep with"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "inside of Russia because, you know, CNN,"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "of course, is um just part of the uh you"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "know, just a mouthpiece of the CIA. So,"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "watch this report. The hypocrisy here is"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "amazing. Watch. President Trump once"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "said Ukraine had no cards, but now"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "they've built themselves a new deck."}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "We're now with perhaps Russia's most"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "keenly sought target in the war. A deep"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "strike Ukrainian drone unit launching"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "this night a wave of 200 attack drones"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "into Russia. The issue here is the"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "scale. Potentially 20 drones being"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "launched just from here and three or"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "four other locations around here also"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "involved in tonight's attack. the sheer"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "number overwhelming it seems much of"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "Russia's air defenses and causing"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "persistent embarrassment to the Kremlin."}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:17", "text": ">> Yeah, persistent embarrassment and the"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "slaughter of innocent civilians as well."}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "So CNN made their bed. They don't want"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "to go and see what the terrorist attack"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "what those drones have wrought. instead"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "they'd rather cover that side of the"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "story embedded with, you know, the CIA"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "gets them embedded there with the with"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "this Ukrainian unit. Okay. Who's calling"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "the shots? Who who's doing the satellite"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "telemetry? Maybe you could cover that in"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "your report as well. Like which"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "intelligence units are actually"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "responsible for the targeting of all of"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "this? Is it Ukraine? No. We want to"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "bring in Colonel Douglas McGregor right"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "now because things are escalating at a"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "rapid pace right now inside of Ukraine."}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "and where do things stand? We want to"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "talk about this and then Iran after the"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "break. Colonel, great to see you."}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "Welcome back to the show. Well, don't"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "you hate when people say, \"I told you"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "so.\" Yeah, that's me actually because I"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "I did tell you. Sorry, but I told you"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "that gold and silver were going to reap"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "the benefits of excessive money"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "printing, the Fed just printing money"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "like crazy, overvalued markets, global"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "unrest. It's here. It's happened. Gold"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "and silver have both soared to all-time"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "highs. 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Call them 1 8006133557"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "or go to leerredacted.com"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "and you can receive up to $20,000 in"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "free bonus medals with a qualified"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "purchase. Um, where do things stand"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "right now? You and I were, you know,"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "emailing yesterday about where things"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "were moving, in what direction you think"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "things are happening on the Russian"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "side. There seems to be pressure,"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "obviously enormous pressure on Putin to"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "end this thing. Uh, and he has been"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "methodical to say the least over the"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "past few years. But given this"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "escalation that we're seeing over the"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "past 24, 48 hours, where do you think"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "we're headed?"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "Well, I think we have reached a a"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "so-called strategic inflection point in"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "Ukraine. Uh the Russian population is"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "very strongly behind President Putin. I"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "think the latest polling data I saw was"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "83 84% approval. There are people who"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "are critical, but not very many. And I"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "would say that the majority of people"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "have come to the conclusion that let's"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "let's end this thing. Let's get this"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "over with. No more irritating strikes"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "that kill innocents. No more strikes"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "that destroy refineries."}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "Let's put an end to this regime in in"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "Kief. And I think you heard that from"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "the foreign minister, from Mr. Lavough,"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "who effectively said, \"Look, we're"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "coming and you'd better get out of the"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "way. If you're a foreign diplomat, get"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "out of Kief. We're going to launch more"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "than the usual punishing strikes. These"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "are going to be annihilating strikes."}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "And the implication is that the Russian"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "army is coming as well. I think the"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "Russians have concluded, not that they"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "needed to learn this, they know this"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "from experience through many, many wars,"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "but I think they recognize that this war"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "will not end on the basis of strikes"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "alone. You're going to have to go in on"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "the ground. We've always known that"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "Odessa and Karkov, those two cities are"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "Russian-speaking cities, historically"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "Russian, that they would have to become"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "Russian again and the only way to do"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "that would be to seize them. So I think"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "those two are on the uh agenda. The the"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "last piece of course is KF. If you look"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "at the distribution of forces right now,"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "the size of forces up in below Russia,"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "that is White Russia, north of Kief, the"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "the size and concentration of forces in"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "the north and the south of eastern"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "Ukraine. It's pretty clear that these"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "operations are going to commence and"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "they're going to commence soon. And I"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "think that's one of the reasons you"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "asked me yesterday, what do you think"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "about these so-called special operations"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "forces from Great Britain, France, and"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "other countries that are now moving into"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "southern Ukraine? In other words,"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "towards Odessa. And I I think they"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "anticipate this is going to happen. And"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "I think that's what you're hearing from"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "Silinski. Silinski is actually quite"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "desperate. He knows he's on on the final"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "leg of his existence and he's asking for"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "whatever anybody's willing to give him."}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "The good news is that most of the people"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "in Europe that have been listening to"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "this man are no longer interested. I"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "mean, that's probably the best news of"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "all from Germany. Alisa Vital, the"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "leader of the alternative for Germany,"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "spoke very frankly when she said, \"If we"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "gain power and authority here in"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "Germany, the first thing we're going to"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "do is end the war. We're going to stop"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "sending money that's going to be stolen"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "or wasted in Ukraine.\" That's number"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "one. Number two, we're going to go back"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "to Moscow and we're going to arrange to"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "buy energy, buy fuel, buy liqufied"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "natural gas because it's cheaper. We're"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "not going to impoverish ourselves by"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "buying from the United States. So, I I"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "think these things are coming. It's it's"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "always been something that was just over"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "the horizon. I think it's very close"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "now. And as a result, I think Mr. Putin"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "has decided it's time for the pedal to"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "the metal. He has an almost"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "inexhaustible supply of archniks,"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "hisconders, and other missiles. And I"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "think that they're going to do an"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "enormous amount of damage, particularly"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "in and around the center of Kief where"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "the government is located. It's not"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "something they've wanted to do because"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "Kief is a special place in in Russian"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "history. But I I don't think they see"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "any alternative to it. And they also"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "have made it clear that they will now"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "strike at train lines and uh logistical"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "storage points and so forth deeper in"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "Ukraine and all the way to Lvaf if"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "necessary. So that's what's what's"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "coming and it'll start very soon."}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:42", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:45", "text": ">> Now can you talk to me about what"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "Ukraine has left to fight with? What"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "kind of defenses? Now Zalinski is just"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "costumeuming himself, pretending that"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "they're going to continue, but what do"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "they actually have and what do we know?"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "Well, we know that President Trump said,"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "\"We got to get some of that back because"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "we want to have a war in Iran, so we"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "can't be sending that much. We've sent"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "them old stuff.\" Okay. Today, the"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "European Union promised 28.3 billion"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "euro, saying that they really want to"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "focus on air defense and drones and"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "anti- drone cap capabilities, but that"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "just feels like you're trying to defend"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "a house with sticks and stones. What do"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "you think? Well, most of the air and"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "missile defense capability that they're"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "talking about doesn't even exist. It has"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "to be built. So, you're talking about a"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "long lag time. Uh most of these things"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "will never arrive in time to make any"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "difference to the survival or defeat of"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "Ukraine. Secondly, when it comes down to"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "numbers, it depends on what you want to"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "believe. I've heard reports that there"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "are as many as 25, 30, 40, 50,000"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "so-called mercenaries. These are people"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "from the Middle East, uh, from Europe,"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "some from the United States, some from"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "Latin America who are being paid to come"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "over and fight for Ukraine. Now, beyond"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "that, uh, 25, 30, 40,000, 50,000"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "mercenaries, are there 100,000, 150,000"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "human beings out there sitting in"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "trenches and positions? Probably. Uh,"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "are they able to undertake anything? No."}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "uh when they're really challenged, they"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "tend to retreat and that's the wise"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "thing to do because they face certain"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "death if they don't. So on the ground,"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "Ukraine has not much to offer. It's very"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "very low in terms of missiles. And so"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "what you were seeing that that CNN"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "showed you is kind of the last gasp."}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "These are long range uh unmanned"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "systems, drones, and the components are"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "largely produced in Western Europe. than"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "they are assembled in Ukraine. Now, the"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "the so-called first person drones, the"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "FPVs, those things can be built from"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "scratch inside Ukraine, and they're"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "useful on the tactical battlefield, but"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "they're not a warwinning uh war changing"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "outcome by any stretch of the"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "imagination. And these drones that"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "they're assembling and firing have"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "reached the point now where quite"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "frankly, uh the population in Russia is"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "angry and the population of Russia wants"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "action. And I think President Putin"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "agrees and his general staff does. So I"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "think you're going to see enormous"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "destruction meed out to the sources of"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "these drones. And I think that's why the"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "Europeans are especially worried right"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "now because there is a distinct"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "possibility that the Russians may choose"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "to target selectively places in Germany"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "and Poland and Lithuania and perhaps"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "other countries. Even in Great Britain,"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "they could do so if they wanted in"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "Denmark and in the places where some of"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "these components are being produced."}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "Now, I'm not saying they will, but they"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "have the capability. They have the"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "targeting data. It could be done. Now,"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "that may seem to many of the globalists"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "in Western Europe as a great thing. They"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "would love to provoke the Russians and"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "then stand there and say, \"See, see"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "these Russians really want to invade"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "Europe.\" But, of course, it's patently"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "obvious the Russians don't want anything"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "to do with that. But they will cross the"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "Damper River. They will go down to"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "Odessa. I think they will ultimately go"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "into Kief because I think they"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "understand they don't have any choice"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "anymore. This thing is not going to end"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "unless they end it on those terms."}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "A couple of things to unpack there on"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "Odessa. I mean, you have said on our"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "show repeatedly that if if Russia takes"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "Odessa, for all intents and purposes,"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "Ukraine ceases to become ceases to be a"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "country. I mean, you're forcing them"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "into a landlocked position where they"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "have no port and therefore for all"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "intents and purposes, they're not really"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "a country anymore."}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:39", "text": ">> Worth pointing out that the regions that"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "Russia has annexed are their mining"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "regions, which were highly intensive in"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "natural resources. They don't have those"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "anymore. Was one of the greatest fears"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "of Ukrainian government for decades and"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "they're gone. They didn't have to lose"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "it. So on the Odessa question, I mean,"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "is this"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "what will these mercenaries, what will"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "France, what will the UK, what will the"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "US do in response? Can they do anything"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "in response?"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:05", "text": ">> Uh, I can't imagine anything of"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "substance happening. And if they put"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "anybody down there, they're going to get"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "killed. We we have to remember that on"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "the ground in western Ukraine, there are"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "thousands of people who are agents for"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "Russia. What that means is that someone"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "can walk up to a building in Odessa"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "whereas say French officers or British"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "officers are meeting with Ukrainian"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "opposites. They can listen, they can"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "then open their cell phone, they can"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "send that data straight back to Russia."}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "Then they get in their car, they drive"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "away and six or seven minutes later the"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "building ceases to exist. That's the"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "kind of capability the Russians have"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "right now on the ground in e in western"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "Ukraine. But we have to look at this"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "from two different vantage points."}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "Odessa has been important as a port of"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "entry for a lot of equipment, a lot of"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "mercenaries,"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "a lot of sensitive technology,"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "ammunition, as well as food and other"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "implements. This has to stop because"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "it's it's a lifeline for the war in"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "Ukraine. The only alternative at that"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "point then is to go through Poland. And"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "that's a lot easier for the Russians to"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "interdict, frankly. uh whenever they"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "want to. Getting getting into Odessa and"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "controlling that is vital because you"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "can't do that as easily from a distance."}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "That's the short-term advantage,"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "strategic advantage of seizing Odessa."}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "But long term, it's much more important"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "to the Russians. That port didn't even"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "exist 300 years ago. It was founded by"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "Russians, Russian armies led by generals"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "that Katherine the Great sent out to the"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "field to destroy, defeat the Ottoman"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "Turks and the and the Tartars and"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "ultimately bring under Russian control."}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "Ukraine, historic Ukraine is further"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "north, much further north. And historic"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "Ukraine is not known for mines or"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "valuable minerals. It's known for its"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "farmland, its black earth. That is still"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "there and that is still very, very"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "valuable. Which is why I think people"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "like Kushner and others have been trying"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "to make side deals to get control of as"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "much of it as possible as a way to"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "enrich themselves and expand their"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "business opportunities. And"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "unfortunately, I think Mr. Zinsky has"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "been only too willing to sell everything"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "and anything he can to people like"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "Kushner. So at this point, the two"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "things that are most important is number"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "one, this is a Russian city of enormous"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "strategic importance and historical"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "value. It must return to Russia. The"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "only way to do that is to cross the"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "river and invade it. And they'll take it"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "from the north. They'll come down"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "presumably from the bridge bridge head"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "over the Neer River from Zabarisha and"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "go south and get control of the port."}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "Then the rest of it is a is a different"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "matter. But once that occurs, you're"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "right, Clayton. Uh Ukraine as a country"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "is effectively cooked. It's back to"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "being what historically Ukraine has"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "been. Not a nation, not a nation state"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "or an independent country, but a region"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "inhabited by people who call themselves"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "Ukrainians or Ruthinians. That's real."}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "That's there. But it has seldom, if"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "ever, been treated as an independent"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "state. Not by any means."}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "Are you surprised that Vladimir"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "Sullinsky is still hanging on? I am. I"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "mean,"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:26", "text": ">> at this point,"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:28", "text": ">> yeah, I I I mean, we're over a year past"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "the confrontation between President"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "Trump and Vice President Vance. You"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "know, he really has no effective power."}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "He's just a social media influencer."}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "He's a war influencer basically. And"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "he's still sitting in that office. It's"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "perplexing to me."}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:46", "text": ">> Every time I see him, I think of Rick"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "James. Remember Rick James? He used to"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "say cocaine is a hell of a drug,"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:51", "text": ">> you know."}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:54", "text": ">> Well, it's obvious that he's on a lot of"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "cocaine because when he talks, it's pure"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "unadulterated nonsense. And that's the"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "last refuge of somebody as uh corrupt"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "and despicable as this man Zalinski. He"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "really is. I seldom say that about"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "somebody, but you have to know the sad"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "state state of affairs inside Ukraine to"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "really appreciate that. We we don't get"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "any real news or information from inside"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "that country. But the Ukrainians"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "themselves have had it. When they try to"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "uh take people and put them in uniform,"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "now they're met by armed gangs. People"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "in Western Ukraine want nothing to do"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "with this. They want an end to this war."}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:32", "text": ">> They're pulling people off of farms. I"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "mean, there's videos this week now. And"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "now they're taking farmers going these"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "conscription goons are grabbing those"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "people and throwing them in. And how"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "many people have died? you know the"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "numbers months ago or maybe last year we"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "were you were reporting I think 1.3"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "million dead on the Ukrainian"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:51", "text": ">> actually the latest ones I've heard are"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "about 1.8 8 million, but it could be"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "more of that. Could it be a little less?"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "Maybe. But sadly, that part of the world"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "has always had a problem with absorbing"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "a lot of blood. And I'm afraid that"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "large numbers of people have died there"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "unnecessarily. The Ukrainian nation has"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "been destroyed by these people. And I"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "would argue by us and the Europeans who"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "have enabled this nonsense. The best"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "thing that President Trump can do is end"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "this war. You know, the bad news is that"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "you're absolutely right, Clayton. We've"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "enabled these uh long range unmanned"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "system strikes. We've helped to plot uh"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "you know, the pathway for these systems,"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "giving them the targeting data. We we've"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "had aircraft, surveillance aircraft come"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "back from flights and turn over to the"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "Ukrainians the location of every major"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "refinery, every factory, every air"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "defense battery, you name it, to to the"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "uh Ukrainians that are that are running"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "the show in Kief. All we've done is"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "extend the life of this sick regime. It"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "it really needs to stop. And it's more"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:19:57", "text": "evidence that President Trump doesn't"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "even control his own government because"}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "I know President Trump and if he really"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "understood this, I think he would stop"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "it. Thank you so much for watching"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "Redacted. We'd love for you to subscribe"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "to the channel. It's totally free. 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[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "Well, Russia says that uh the US is"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "secretly moving ISIS terrorists out of"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "prison cells in Syria into Iraq to"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "prepare to launch an attack against"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "Iran."}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "I know sounds crazy, but why? You know,"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "it's perfectly normal. We love to team"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "up with ISIS. We love to team up with"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "terrorists on a regular basis. Here is"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "their report. The West planned to use"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "former ISIS militants against Iran."}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "According to the head of Russia's FSB,"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "Western spy agencies are intending to"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "use Syrian militants as a proxy force"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "against Iran."}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "I mean, doesn't sound like the West"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "really wants peace with Iran after all."}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "And if you read the latest report from"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "Al Arabia, which got its hands on the"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "quote unquote final draft of a US Iran"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "peace memorandum, this thing seems to be"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "a non-starter for Iran. It's like a"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "laundry list of things the United States"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "wants u that Iran probably will not go"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "along with. Here are just a few"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "highlights though. The reopening of the"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "straight of Hormoose to international"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "navigation without taking any fees or"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "tolls. Possibility of sanctions being"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "slowly removed from Iranian oil but it"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "would happen in phases and you know you"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "can you can definitely trust the United"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "States government right wink wink nudge"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "nudge. So in phases like this will"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "happen over the course of many many"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "years perhaps that's probably a"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "non-starter for Iran and the end of"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "military operations as well by Iran"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "including assisting in Lebanon. I'm sure"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "that there would be an Israeli component"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "of that as well. Please stop bombing"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "southern Lebanon. All of that to say"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "this doesn't seem like it's coming to"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "fruition. So what's in it for Iran and"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "where do things go next? Um, and Iran"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "has said, \"We will strike back against"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "this recent round of attacks against our"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "country.\" Colonel Douglas McGregor is"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "back with us to examine all of that. So,"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "Colonel, when you hear about this FSB"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "story out of Syria, the idea that the"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "United States is secretly grabbing ISIS"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "militants, rounding them up, arming"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "them, putting them, moving them to Iraq,"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "presumably to attack Iran. Are you"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "surprised by this? What do you make of"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "it?"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "Well, the last time I looked, we"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "established a government in Damascus"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "that took control of Syria that was"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "essentially a a group of ISIS graduates"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "or al-Qaeda members and so forth. So,"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "this sort of thing has been going on"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "forever in the region. Uh, the Mossad,"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "as you implied, is very good at this."}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "They know how to manipulate the various"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "groups and turn them against each other."}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "I think that's what we're trying to do"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "now with Iran. But this is another"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "measure of how desperate we are. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "this is not going to change anything."}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "And the Iranians are eminently well"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "equipped to deal with that. And remember"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "that when they tried to arm and and set"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "send over a group of Azeri Turks that"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "were from just across the border also"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "along with some Kurds, uh the Turkish"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "military intelligence actually warned"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "the Iranians and the Iranians were able"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "to annihilate the group before it ever"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "got into the country. Uh, I think the"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "Iranians can handle this. But the"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "problem is that this sort of thing"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "reinforces"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "the conviction in Thrron that any"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "agreement reached with us is worthless."}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "That we're not going to stand by"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "anything. We can't be trusted. We lie"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "all the time. And so what's the"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "rationale for signing anything with us"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "under any circumstances? That's the bad"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "news. That's why this is a really bad"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "idea."}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "Well, but it's not unusual because the"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "United States has supported MEK, which"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "was a terrorist group designated until"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "2012 when Obama decided they weren't any"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "longer because they were designated as"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "helpful. And so Iran must expect this"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "that it's not it's it's totally in"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "character, right?"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:52", "text": ">> Yes. I I that's why I say I don't think"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "the Iranians feel particularly"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "threatened by this. This is something"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "they could handle. They know the region"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "better than we do and they certainly"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "understand what they're dealing with in"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "the Israeli camp. It's also reminiscent"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "of what we did after World War II and"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "the Carpathians in in Western Ukraine."}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "We armed all of the people that uh were"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "called banderites that had been part of"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "the sort of rogue organizations"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "loosely associated with the Nazis and"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "some were directly but a group of"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "nationalists who were willing to fight"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "to the bitter end. So we armed them and"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "in fact it was Yarajelski who is a"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "Polish officer at the time, young"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "officer who endeared himself to his"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "Soviet masters by going into the"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "mountains, rooting them out and killing"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "them. This this is not new. We've done"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "this. The Israelis have done it. The"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "British are very good at it."}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "The the problem I have with it though is"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "that if you're really interested, and I"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "don't think we are, frankly, but if"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "you're really interested in coming to an"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "agreement that has any chance of lasting"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "uh about the Persian Gulf and in our"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "relations with Iran right now, this is"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "not something you do. You can't conceal"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "it. Everybody finds out,"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:01", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "All over the newspapers now. It's pretty"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "obvious. Um so just a few minutes ago"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "Colonel President Trump was uh was said"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "that the straight of Hormuse will be"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "open to everyone. It will not be"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "controlled by any country under any deal"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "reached with Iran. There will be no"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "discussions about easing sanctions on"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "Thrron. So that was that's of course a"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "huge piece of the Iranian part of their"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "deal removing of the sanctions and that"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "they will control the straight of"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "Hormuse. So, and then Iran also of"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "course saying that they will respond and"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "retaliate for these recent tacts over"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "the weekend. Um, there doesn't seem to"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "be any any end in sight to this."}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:44", "text": ">> No, I I haven't heard or seen anything"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "that I would describe as meaningful. I"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "mean, how do you follow these tweets and"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "come up with some sort of coherent"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "strategy or policy? I mean, if you're a"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "schizophrenic, maybe you understand what"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "he's talking about, but the rest of us"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "with normal minds, no, we can't figure"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "it out. and his policies change from"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "tweet to tweet as you just pointed out."}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "Uh, and it's ridiculous. First of all,"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "somebody said somewhere along the line"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "that possession was 9/10en of the law."}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "Well, here's a blinding flash of the"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "obvious. Iran controls the straight of"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "Hormuz. We don't. So, I don't know who"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "he's kidding. Uh secondly, and we've"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "talked about this before, we had"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "something we have something called the"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "Montreus Convention, which uh was signed"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "in 1926 after World War I by the various"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "belligerent, co-elligerent,"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "and they decided that Turkey should"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "control the strait and everybody agreed"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "to the conditions under which the strait"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "would be governed. Turkey signed up for"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "it. We've never had any problems with"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "the dinels. The Turks have done an"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "excellent job of uh conducting ships in"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "and out of it. Uh I think something"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "similar is going to happen in the"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "straight of Hormuz. And I imagine that"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "Iran will end up uh if it's not uh the"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "major uh factor in it, it'll probably be"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "de facto the controlling authority and"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "that's not surprising. They control most"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "of the coastline that is on the straight"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "of Hormuz. And again, they have an"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "incentive to keep it running and keep it"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "flowing because they too want the oil"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "and the gas and all the other things"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "that are missing now, fertilizer,"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "sulfuric acid, hydrogen, nitrogen, so"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "forth from from uh being everything"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "that's being kept inside the Gulf. They"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "want to get it out. So I I don't see a"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "problem. But this this doesn't have"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "anything to do with rationality."}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "There is no rationality involved in"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "this. You're dealing with two two"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "serious problems. Number one, Israel."}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "Israel has veto authority over anything"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "that President Trump decides to do. He"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "is not in charge. He is responding to"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "Netanyahu. The demands he sets for forth"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "in front of the uh Iranians and says"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "these are the things you must do."}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "They're not our demands. Those are"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "Israeli demands. So somehow or another,"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "how do you break the hold that Netanyahu"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "has on President Trump and the United"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "States government that nobody in"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "Congress is going to stand up and"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "jeopardize their income uh if they"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "oppose uh the Israel lobby and"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "effectively say no to Mr. Netanyahu? So"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "that's problem number one. Problem"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "number two,"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "his President Trump and his personality"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "and his fear of being castigated and"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "humiliated for having done this done"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "this stupid thing. And attacking Iran"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "was a very dumb idea. Uh anybody with"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "any sense knew that and there is nothing"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "that justifies the total mobilization"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "for war that it would require for us to"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "take control of Iran. We're not going to"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "implement a draft and bring over a"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "million people to run all over the"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "countryside and control Iran. It's"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "ridiculous. Nobody wants to do that."}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "Nobody will support it. So, how does he"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "get out of it without embarrassing"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "himself? I think that's a serious"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "problem. And if you turn to Mr."}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "Netanyahu and his agents inside the"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "United States, the billionaires that put"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "Trump where he is, and you tell them,"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "\"Well, I'm sorry, guys. I can't go any"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "further. This has to stop. So, I'm"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "pulling the plug. They're going to look"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "at him and say, \"Well, then we're"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "pulling the plug on you, my friend."}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "We're we're taking away the billions of"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "dollars that we've helped you get. We're"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "subtracting those from your side of the"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "ledger. More important, we're not going"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "to protect you anymore from the attacks"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "that you're going to sustain from"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "Congress. Congress will eat you alive"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "without us. So, if you don't do what we"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "say, you've had it.\" Those are the grim"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "facts. And also we will release the"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "compromat and whatever is hidden in"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "these Epstein files that we've enabled"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "you to hide from the rest of us and you"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "know the millions of documents that we"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "still are not allowed to see as a result"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "of it. Um I think you're absolutely"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "right. Where do you think the what do"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "you think happens next here? I mean are"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "we heading back to a full-scale hot war?"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "Uh, I you know I I feel like Richard"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "Nixon I'm glad you asked that question"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "because there are some other things that"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "that we don't usually mention that we"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "really do need to talk about."}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "A lot of people don't seem to understand"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "that uh inflation in April jumped from"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "3.2 to 3.8%."}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "Projections for the next quarter or two"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "suggest that we may hit 6% inflation."}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "Well, if you go up to 5% or 6%"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "inflation, that means that your interest"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "rates should be fixed at 6% or 7%. Right"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "now, they are fixed at 3.75%"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "below inflation. Now, what does this"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "mean? This means if you try to fix it"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "and suppress the inflation and you raise"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "those rates, our our financial system"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "will collapse. The economy won't survive"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "it. You know, we now have the president"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "has also dipped into the uh"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "uh SPR, the strategic petroleum reserve."}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "Remember when Biden did this and this"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "was during co and Trump spoke out and"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "raged against it saying this was"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "irresponsible and so forth. Well, I"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "found out uh yesterday that he sold"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "something in the neighborhood of 17.8 8"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "million barrels of oil la just this uh"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "within the last week uh as an effort to"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "suppress the prices of oil to keep it"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "below $110 per barrel. Well, the problem"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "with this is at this rate our strategic"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "petroleum reserve will probably be"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "exhausted by the end of July, beginning"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "of August, especially since he's also"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "sold below market price unknown"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "quantities of oil to some of our Asian"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "friends. Now, doubtlessly this was done"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "because after all, he never bothered to"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "ask them what they thought about his"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "dumb idea of attacking Iran. Uh, and"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "this has tried to ease the damage. But"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "this is not a long-term solution. This"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "is all short-term thinking. What happens"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "when you hit bottom on this strategic"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "petroleum reserve? What happens when you"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "can't skirt or skate away from the"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "consequences?"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "You know, right now people think that"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "when all the chickens come home to"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "roost, and I'm talking about everything,"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "the loss of oil around the world and and"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "the gas and the minerals and everything"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "else, we could see as much as a 36%"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "reduction in the size of the global"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "economy. Now, why is that important?"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "Because during the great depression, uh"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "the world economy was reduced by 20%."}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:44", "text": ">> Jeez. However, we had an advantage,"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "believe it or not, during the 30s in the"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "United States. And one advantage that we"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "had was that all of our allies during"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "World War I owed us lot owed us lots of"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "money because we'd sold them not just"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "weapons and and uh bullets and so forth,"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "we also sold them a lot of food and a"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "lot of other mineral resources. And we"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "asked that they pay for those things in"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "gold. So, we had a lot of gold pouring"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "into our country. And then finally, our"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "debt to GDP ratio was so small it it was"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "hardly worth mentioning in the 1930s."}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "Today, our debt to GDP ratio is 125%."}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "Some people say it's higher. It's"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "actually 130, but it's certainly"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "climbing. It's not by any means being"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "reduced. You put all of that together"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "and he's sitting on top of a very large"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "ticking time bomb politically, socially,"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "culturally, financially, economically."}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "I mean, it's really hard to imagine that"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "Americans support this and most of them"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "don't. And so,"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "you continue to see these market"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "perversions such as the 50-year"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "mortgage, which will only increase the"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "price of a house and enslave Americans"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "for longer. Um, you know, various sort"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "of band-aids, but it's all it's all a"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "perversion of a natural financial system"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "in order to"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "rage these wars. And I think Americans"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "are seeing it. So that is both the"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "silver lining for us and the curse, the"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "poison pill for the administration. It"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "has to come to a head because we have to"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "we have to start to reject it. Is there"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "any way we can do that other than just"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "complaining here unprotected?"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:29", "text": ">> Well, someone sent me a chart this"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "morning showing that 90% of the spending"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "inside the United States is a function"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "of 10% of the American population."}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "Right."}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:41", "text": ">> And if you look at the distribution of"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "wealth, it's almost the same. And"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "normally when you see that kind of"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "thing, the word revolution springs to"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "mind because when things collapse, when"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "things fail, that's when people finally"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "take to the streets. When you can't buy"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "gas, when you can't get the food that"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "you want, when the supply chains break"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "down, that's when chaos breaks out and"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "that's when things change. Uh, I don't"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "know how else to put it because this"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "sort of maldistribution of wealth gets"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "worse with each passing day. And if you"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "look at the White House right now and"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "the people surrounding President Trump,"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "they are a microcosm of what I'm"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "describing."}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "That's what you're seeing. Every time"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "they manipulate the markets, what do you"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "see happen? People walk out with"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "wheelbarls full of cash all by shorting"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "something, usually oil. So there is no"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "easy way out, Natalie. I'm afraid that"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "the only way out is the hard way. And I"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "at some point we're going to see it. I"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "don't know when it happens. I mean, you"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "got to bring on Nasim Talib, you know,"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "who invented the black swan and maybe he"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "can give you a better assessment there,"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "but the black swan is definitely going"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "to take off and when it does, it's going"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "to be hell to pay. And I don't think"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "right now most people in Washington are"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "aware of it. I if anything, they're"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "delusional. They look at the markets,"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "they don't see the danger. How you could"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "miss it is beyond my imagination, but"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "they really don't."}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:14", "text": ">> No. And the I saw a report today saying"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "we could see the markets going up 20"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "even 30% this year in the midst of all"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "of this. So, the rich will get richer"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "and the average Americans will get"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "totally squeezed. And so, so many people"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "in our chat room right now say the"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "colonel is spot on 100%. I've been"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "saying this. Someone said, \"I've been"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "saying this, god damn it.\" some in our"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "in our chat room about a second American"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "revolution um that we're we're facing"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "right now. It's unsustainable. It's"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "going to fall on some president's lap at"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "some point, whether it's Trump or the"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "next person, but $39 trillion in debt um"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "and an unsustainable path. It's a I"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "mean, we're on a collision course for"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "disaster."}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:53", "text": ">> Yeah. The bad news is that I think"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "President Trump with his decision to go"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "to war with Iran has actually"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "accelerated this process."}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "So, I think it's going to land in his"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "lap whether he likes it or not."}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:05", "text": ">> Well, thank you for that, Colonel. It's"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "great to talk to you."}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:08", "text": ">> Yeah, thank you."}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:10", "text": ">> You really that way."}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:13", "text": ">> I do, but only on a personal level, not"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "about the subject matter. I just I just"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "happen to like you that much."}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:17", "text": ">> What I love Yeah. What I love what I"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "love about you is you're able to just"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "cut through the BS. I mean, and just,"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "you know, and whether it's not you're"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "not trying to sugarcoat anything. Just"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "give it give it straight. And that's"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "what we need right now. So, I hope"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "people are paying attention. Um, and"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "whether JD Vance decides he's not going"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "to run at all, he doesn't want to be a"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "part of it. He doesn't want to be handed"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "this mess. So, I don't know. Something"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "very something very interesting is"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "happening right now in Washington. I"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "think we are we are at a tipping point"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "moment. So, thank you, Colonel, as"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "always for your assessment and your"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "analysis. Uh, second to none. So, thank"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "you, sir. Great to see you."}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:50", "text": ">> Okay. Thank you all. Byebye."}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:52", "text": ">> Thanks, Doug. Thank you so much for"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "watching Redacted. We'd love for you to"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "subscribe to the channel. It's totally"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "free if you want to follow us or"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "subscribe. And if we brought you any"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "value at all, please consider sharing"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "this video with a friend or a loved one"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "on social media. Thanks so much and"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "we'll see you next time."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "Welcome everybody into Redacted on this"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "Wednesday. A busy show for you. Vladimir"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "Zalinsky, the uh the unelected dictator"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "of uh of Ukraine has made demands of the"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "United States and Congress, sending a"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "letter to both the president of the"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "United States and Congress in an"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "unprecedented move, demanding basically"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "begging and demanding weapons and"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "assistance ahead of this coming Russian"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "attack. Um and vowing a massive response"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "from Ukraine. And of course, it won't"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "come from Ukraine. It'll come from the"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "British. It'll come from the United"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "States on oil infrastructure inside of"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "Russia. So, we're going to get the very"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "latest on what is happening inside of"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "this uh escalating moment."}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:44", "text": ">> Uh plus, Iran is saying, \"Look, you"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "escalated the war during the ceasefire,"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "United States, and they are vowing to"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "retaliate.\" Uh so, what will the US do?"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "What would their response be? Because we"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "just can't help ourselves. We just need"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "to be bombing someone at all times or"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "else we cease to exist. 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Uh,"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "we're going to go over the history of"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "how the United States has in fact"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "brought terror to the region in Iran."}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "So, anyone who says, \"Oh, Iran, they"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "sponsor terror.\" I would like to turn"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "the mirror on those people, and we're"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "going to show you the long and bloody"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "storied history of our uh attacks in the"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "region for at least the last 30 years."}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "Not an exhaustive list."}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:24", "text": ">> Uh, get in your super chats and any kind"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "of questions you have. 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Well,"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "Russia is readying something big."}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "Perhaps an end move finally to this war"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "in Ukraine. And just a short time ago,"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "about an hour ago, Vladimir Zalinsky"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "releasing a video message um calling on"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "what he expects to happen inside of"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "Russia should this escalate beyond where"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "we currently are, threatening uh attacks"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "on oil infrastructure, that Ukraine will"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "strike back in a big way, but also"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "asking the United States and Congress"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "for additional assistance and whatever"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "they can do, of course, to make sure"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "that we are providing weapons and money"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "into Ukraine. Watch this."}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "Foreign"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "speech. Foreign speech. Foreign speech."}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "Okay. Meanwhile, of course, the other"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "day we highlighted the attack on the"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "girls school or the the girls that were"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "killed at the college inside of Russia"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "um and devastating those door 21 21"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "young girls killed at the Starblesque"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "College there. Um, journalists were"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "invited to come, by the way, uh, from"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "anywhere. They were invited to come and"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "see, unlike what happens in Israel. Of"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "course, you're not, you know,"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "journalists are not invited to see."}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "They're IDF selectively picks where"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "they're going to be sending people, but"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "journalists from all over were invited"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "to come. CNN turned them down, of"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "course, to see the terrorist attack on"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "this college. Um, also the BBC turned"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "them down. However, CNN just released a"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "brand new report highlighting the"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "highlighting Ukraine's own drone program"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "and how they're able to strike deep with"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "inside of Russia because, you know, CNN,"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "of course, is um just part of the uh you"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "know, just a mouthpiece of the CIA. So,"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "watch this report. The hypocrisy here is"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "amazing. Watch. President Trump once"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "said Ukraine had no cards, but now"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "they've built themselves a new deck."}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "We're now with perhaps Russia's most"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "keenly sought target in the war. A deep"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "strike Ukrainian drone unit launching"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "this night a wave of 200 attack drones"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "into Russia. The issue here is the"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "scale. Potentially 20 drones being"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "launched just from here and three or"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "four other locations around here also"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "involved in tonight's attack. the sheer"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "number overwhelming it seems much of"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "Russia's air defenses and causing"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "persistent embarrassment to the Kremlin."}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:48", "text": ">> Yeah, persistent embarrassment and the"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "slaughter of innocent civilians as well."}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "So CNN made their bed. They don't want"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "to go and see what the terrorist attack"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "what those drones have wrought. Instead,"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "they'd rather cover that side of the"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "story embedded with, you know, the CIA"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "gets them embedded there with the with"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "this Ukrainian unit. Okay. Who's calling"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "the shots? Who who's doing the satellite"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "telemetry? Maybe you could cover that in"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "your report as well. Like, which"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "intelligence units are actually"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "responsible for the targeting of all of"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "this? Is it Ukraine? No. We want to"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "bring in Colonel Douglas McGregor right"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "now because things are escalating at a"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "rapid pace right now inside of Ukraine."}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "and where do things stand? We want to"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "talk about this and then Iran after the"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "break. Colonel, great to see you."}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "Welcome back to the show."}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "Stoic. I wasn't sure if you were just"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "having a stoicism moment or he"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:49", "text": ">> was gathering his thoughts."}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:52", "text": ">> Yeah, great to see you, Colonel. So, um,"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "where do things stand right now? you and"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "I were, you know, emailing yesterday"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "about where things were moving, in what"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "direction you think things are happening"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "on the Russian side. There seems to be"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "pressure, obviously enormous pressure on"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "Putin to end this thing. Uh, and he has"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "been methodical to say the least over"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "the past few years. But given this"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "escalation that we're seeing over the"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "past 24, 48 hours, where do you think"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "we're headed?"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:19", "text": ">> Well, I think we have reached a a"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "so-called strategic inflection point in"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "Ukraine. Uh the Russian population is"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "very strongly behind President Putin. I"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "think the latest polling data I saw was"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "83 84% approval. There are people who"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "are critical, but not very many. And I"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "would say that the majority of people"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "have come to the conclusion that let's"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "let's end this thing. Let's get this"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "over with. No more irritating strikes"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "that kill innocents. No more strikes"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "that destroy refineries."}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "let's put an end to this regime in in"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "Kief. And I think you heard that from"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "the foreign minister, from Mr. Lavough,"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "who effectively said, \"Look, we're"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "coming and you'd better get out of the"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "way. If you're a foreign diplomat, get"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "out of Kief. We're going to launch more"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "than the usual punishing strikes. These"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "are going to be annihilating strikes.\""}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "And the implication is that the Russian"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "army is coming as well. I think the"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "Russians have concluded, not that they"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "needed to learn this, they know this"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "from experience through many, many wars,"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "but I think they recognize that this war"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "will not end on the basis of strikes"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "alone. You're going to have to go in on"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "the ground. We've always known that"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "Odessa and Karkov, those two cities are"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "Russian speaking cities, historically"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "Russian, that they would have to become"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "Russian again, and the only way to do"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "that would be to seize them. So I think"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "those two are on the uh agenda. The the"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "last piece of course is KF. If you look"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "at the distribution of forces right now,"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "the size of forces up in below Russia,"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "that is White Russia, north of Kief, the"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "the size and concentration of forces in"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "the north and the south of eastern"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "Ukraine. It's pretty clear that these"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "operations are going to commence and"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "they're going to commence soon. And I"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "think that's one of the reasons you"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "asked me yesterday, what do you think"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "about these? so-called special"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "operations forces from Great Britain,"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "France, and other countries that are now"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "moving into southern Ukraine. In other"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "words, towards Odessa. And I I think"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "they anticipate this is going to happen."}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "And I think that's what you're hearing"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "from Silinski. Silinski is actually"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "quite desperate. He knows he's on on the"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "final leg of his existence and he's"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "asking for whatever anybody's willing to"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "give him. The good news is that most of"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "the people in Europe that have been"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "listening to this man are no longer"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "interested. I mean, that's probably the"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "best news of all from Germany. Alisa"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "Vital, the leader of the alternative for"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "Germany,"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "spoke very frankly when she said, \"If we"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "gain power and authority here in"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "Germany, the first thing we're going to"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "do is end the war. We're going to stop"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "sending money that's going to be stolen"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "or wasted in Ukraine.\" That's number"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "one. Number two, we're going to go back"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "to Moscow and we're going to arrange to"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "buy energy, buy fuel, buy liqufied"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "natural gas because it's cheaper. We're"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "not going to impoverish ourselves by"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "buying from the United States. So, I I"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "think these things are coming. It's it's"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "always been something that was just over"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "the horizon. I think it's very close"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "now. And as a result, I think Mr. Putin"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "has decided it's time for the pedal to"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "the metal. and he has an almost"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "inexhaustible supply of archniks,"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "hisconders, and other missiles. And I"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "think that they're going to do an"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "enormous amount of damage, particularly"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "in and around the center of Kief where"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "the government is located. It's not"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "something they've wanted to do because"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "Kief is a special place in in Russian"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "history, but I I don't think they see"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "any alternative to it. And they also"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "have made it clear that they will now"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "strike at train lines and uh logistical"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "storage points and so forth deeper in"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "Ukraine and all the way to Lvaf if"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "necessary. So that's what's what's"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "coming and it'll start very soon."}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:11", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:13", "text": ">> Now can you talk to me about what"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "Ukraine has left to fight with? What"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "kind of defenses? Now Zalinski is just"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "costumeuming himself pretending that"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "they're going to continue. But what do"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "they actually have and what do we know?"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "Well, we know that President Trump said,"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "\"We got to get some of that back because"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "we want to have a war in Iran, so we"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "can't be sending that much. We've sent"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "them old stuff.\" Okay. Today, the"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "European Union promised 28.3 billion"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "euro, saying that they really want to"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "focus on air defense and drones and"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "anti- drone cap capabilities, but that"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "just feels like you're trying to defend"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "a house with sticks and stones. What do"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "you think? Well, most of the air and"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "missile defense capability that they're"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "talking about doesn't even exist. It has"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "to be built. So, you're talking about a"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "long lag time. Uh most of these things"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "will never arrive in time to make any"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "difference to the survival or defeat of"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "Ukraine. Secondly, when it comes down to"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "numbers, it depends on what you want to"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "believe. I've heard reports that there"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "are as many as 25, 30, 40, 50,000"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "so-called mercenaries. These are people"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "from the Middle East, uh, from Europe,"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "some from the United States, some from"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "Latin America who are being paid to come"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "over and fight for Ukraine. Now, beyond"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "that, uh, 25, 30, 40,000, 50,000"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "mercenaries, are there 100,000, 150,000"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "human beings out there sitting in"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "trenches and positions? Probably. Uh,"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "are they able to undertake anything? No."}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "uh when they're really challenged, they"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "tend to retreat and that's the wise"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "thing to do because they face certain"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "death if they don't. So on the ground,"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "Ukraine has not much to offer. It's very"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "very low in terms of missiles. And so"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "what you were seeing that that CNN"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "showed you is kind of the last gasp."}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "These are long range uh unmanned"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "systems, drones, and the components are"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "largely produced in Western Europe. than"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "they are assembled in Ukraine. Now, the"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "the so-called first person drones, the"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "FPVs, those things can be built from"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "scratch inside Ukraine, and they're"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "useful on the tactical battlefield, but"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "they're not a waring uh war changing"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "outcome by any stretch of the"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "imagination. And these drones that"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "they're assembling and firing have"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "reached a point now where quite frankly"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "uh the population in Russia is angry and"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "the population of Russia wants action."}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "And I think President Putin agrees and"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "his general staff does. So I think"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "you're going to see enormous destruction"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "meed out to the sources of these drones."}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "And I think that's why the Europeans are"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "especially worried right now because"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "there is a distinct possibility that the"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "Russians may choose to target"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "selectively places in Germany and Poland"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "and Lithuania and perhaps other"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "countries. Even in Great Britain, they"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "could do so if they wanted in Denmark in"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "the places where some of these"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "components are being produced. Now, I'm"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "not saying they will, but they have the"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "capability. They have the targeting"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "data. It could be done. Now, that may"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "seem to many of the globalists in"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "Western Europe as a great thing. They"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "would love to provoke the Russians and"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "then stand there and say, \"See, see"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "these Russians really want to invade"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "Europe.\" But, of course, it's patently"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "obvious the Russians don't want anything"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "to do with that. But they will cross the"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "Damper River. They will go down to"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "Odessa. I think they will ultimately go"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "into Kief because I think they"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "understand they don't have any choice"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "anymore. This thing is not going to end"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "unless they end it on those terms."}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "A couple of things to unpack there on"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "Odessa. I mean, you have said on our"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "show repeatedly that if if Russia takes"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "Odessa, for all intents and purposes,"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "Ukraine ceases to become ceases to be a"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "country. I mean, you're forcing them"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "into a landlocked position where they"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "have no port and therefore for all"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "intents and purposes, they're not really"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "a country anymore."}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:08", "text": ">> Worth pointing out that the regions that"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "Russia has annexed are their mining"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "regions which were highly intensive in"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "natural resources. They don't have those"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "anymore. Was one of the greatest fears"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "of Ukrainian government for decades and"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "they're gone. They didn't have to lose"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "it. So on the Odessa question, I mean,"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "is this uh what will these mercenaries,"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "what will France, what will the UK, what"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "will the US do in response? Can they do"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "anything in response?"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:34", "text": ">> Uh I can't imagine anything of substance"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "happening. And if they put anybody down"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "there, they're going to get killed. We"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "we have to remember that on the ground"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "in western Ukraine, there are thousands"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "of people who are agents for Russia."}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "What that means is that someone can walk"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "up to a building in Odessa whereas say"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "French officers or British officers are"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "meeting with Ukrainian opposites. They"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "can listen, they can then open their"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "cell phone, they can send that data"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "straight back to Russia. Then they get"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "in their car, they drive away and six or"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "seven minutes later the building ceases"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "to exist. That's the kind of capability"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "the Russians have right now on the"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "ground in e in western Ukraine. But we"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "have to look at this from two different"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "vantage points."}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "Odessa has been important as a port of"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "entry for a lot of equipment, a lot of"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "mercenaries,"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "a lot of sensitive technology,"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "ammunition, as well as food and other"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "implements. This has to stop because"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "it's it's a lifeline for the war in"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "Ukraine. The only alternative at that"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "point then is to go through Poland. And"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "that's a lot easier for the Russians to"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "interdict, frankly. uh whenever they"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "want to. Getting getting into Odessa and"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "controlling that is vital because you"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "can't do that as easily from a distance."}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "That's the short-term advantage,"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "strategic advantage of seizing Odessa."}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "But long term, it's much more important"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "to the Russians. That port didn't even"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "exist 300 years ago. It was founded by"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "Russians, Russian armies led by generals"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "that Catherine the Great sent out to the"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "field to destroy, defeat the Ottoman"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "Turks and the and the Tartars and"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "ultimately bring under Russian control."}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "Ukraine, historic Ukraine is further"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "north, much further north. And historic"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "Ukraine is not known for mines or"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "valuable minerals. It's known for its"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "farmland, its black earth. That is still"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "there and that is still very, very"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "valuable. Which is why I think people"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "like Kushner and others have been trying"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "to make side deals to get control of as"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "much of it as possible as a way to"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "enrich themselves and expand their"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "business opportunities. And"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "unfortunately, I think Mr. Zalinsky has"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "been only too willing to sell everything"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "and anything he can to people like"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "Kushner. So at this point, the two"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "things that are most important is number"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "one, this is a Russian city of enormous"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "strategic importance and historical"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "value. It must return to Russia. The"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "only way to do that is to cross the"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "river and invade it. And they'll take it"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "from the north. They'll come down"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "presumably from the bridge bridge head"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:17", "text": "over the Neer River from Zabarisha and"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "go south and get control of the port."}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "Then the rest of it is a is a different"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "matter. But once that occurs, you're"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "right, Clayton. Uh Ukraine as a country"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "is effectively cooked. It's back to"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "being what historically Ukraine has"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "been. Not a nation, not a nation state"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "or an independent country, but a region"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "inhabited by people who call themselves"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "Ukrainians or Runians. That's real."}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "That's there. But it has seldom, if"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "ever, been treated as an independent"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "state. Not by any means."}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "Are you surprised that Vladimir"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "Sullinsky is still hanging on? I am. I"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "mean,"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:55", "text": ">> at this point,"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:57", "text": ">> yeah, I I I mean, we're over a year past"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "the confrontation between President"}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "Trump and Vice President Vance. You"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "know, he really has no effective power."}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "He's just a social media influencer."}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "He's a war influencer basically. And"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "he's still sitting in that office. It's"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "perplexing to me."}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:15", "text": ">> Every time I see him, I think of Rick"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "James. Remember Rick James? He used to"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "say cocaine is a hell of a drug."}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:20", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:22", "text": ">> Well, it's obvious that he's on a lot of"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "cocaine because when he talks it's pure"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "unadulterated nonsense. And that's the"}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "last refuge of somebody as uh corrupt"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "and despicable as this man Zalinski. He"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "really is. I seldom say that about"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "somebody, but you have to know the sad"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "state state of affairs inside Ukraine to"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "really appreciate that. We we don't get"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "any real news or information from inside"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "that country. But the Ukrainians"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "themselves have had it. When they try to"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:53", "text": "take people and put them in uniform now,"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:55", "text": "they're met by armed gangs. People in"}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "Western Ukraine want nothing to do with"}, {"start": "00:20:55", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "this. They want an end to this war."}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:21:00", "text": ">> Pulling they're pulling people off of"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:02", "text": "farms. I mean, there's videos this week"}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "now. And now they're taking farmers"}, {"start": "00:21:02", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "going these conscription goons are"}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "grabbing those people and throwing them"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "in. And how many people have died? you"}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "know the numbers months ago or maybe"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "last year we were you were reporting I"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "think 1.3 million dead on the Ukrainian"}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:20", "text": ">> actually the latest ones I've heard are"}, {"start": "00:21:17", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "about 1.8 8 million, but it could be"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "more of that. Could it be a little less?"}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "Maybe. But sadly, that part of the world"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "has always had a problem with absorbing"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:32", "text": "a lot of blood. And I'm afraid that"}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "large numbers of people have died there"}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "unnecessarily. The Ukrainian nation has"}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "been destroyed by these people. And I"}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "would argue by us and the Europeans who"}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "have enabled this nonsense. The best"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "thing that President Trump can do is end"}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:48", "text": "this war. You know, the bad news is that"}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "you're absolutely right, Clayton. We've"}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "enabled these uh long range unmanned"}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:57", "text": "system strikes. We've helped to plot uh"}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "you know, the pathway for these systems,"}, {"start": "00:21:57", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "giving them the targeting data. We we've"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:05", "text": "had aircraft, surveillance aircraft come"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:07", "text": "back from flights and turn over to the"}, {"start": "00:22:05", "end": "00:22:10", "text": "Ukrainians the location of every major"}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "refinery, every factory, every air"}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:15", "text": "defense battery, you name it, to to the"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "uh Ukrainians that are that are running"}, {"start": "00:22:15", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "the show in Kief. All we've done is"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "extend the life of this sick regime. It"}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "it really needs to stop. And it's more"}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "evidence that President Trump doesn't"}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:28", "text": "even control his own government because"}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "I know President Trump and if he really"}, {"start": "00:22:28", "end": "00:22:31", "text": "understood this, I think he would stop"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:33", "text": "it."}, {"start": "00:22:31", "end": "00:22:35", "text": ">> Well, we're going to talk about why he"}, {"start": "00:22:33", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "won't stop what's going on in Iran in"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "just a second, but before we do that,"}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "we're going to take a little break. If"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "you want to stretch and smoke if you got"}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:44", "text": "them, hold, please. Uh, but first,"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:45", "text": "actually, don't smoke. We're going to"}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:46", "text": "tell you about our friends."}, {"start": "00:22:45", "end": "00:22:48", "text": ">> Don't smoke. What kind of show are you"}, {"start": "00:22:46", "end": "00:22:50", "text": "promoting here? We're going to tell you"}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "about Brightcore Nutrition, which is"}, {"start": "00:22:50", "end": "00:22:55", "text": "about optimizing your health. So maybe"}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:57", "text": "don't smoke if you got them. Uh we want"}, {"start": "00:22:55", "end": "00:22:59", "text": "to talk about how life expectancy has"}, {"start": "00:22:57", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "peaked at 78 years old in the United"}, {"start": "00:22:59", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "States. That happened in 2014. And of"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "course, it's been declining for the"}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:09", "text": "first time in 30 years. People are aging"}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "faster than ever due in large part to"}, {"start": "00:23:09", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "toxins in the air, chemicals in our food"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:17", "text": "and soil, other external factors that"}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:19", "text": "are new to human biology. 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Um"}, {"start": "00:25:03", "end": "00:25:06", "text": "yeah, uh Independent Free Media says,"}, {"start": "00:25:05", "end": "00:25:08", "text": "\"What's the plan now that we can now we"}, {"start": "00:25:06", "end": "00:25:10", "text": "can't vote ourselves out of Epstein"}, {"start": "00:25:08", "end": "00:25:12", "text": "class leaders? replacement humans are"}, {"start": "00:25:10", "end": "00:25:15", "text": "already being pumped into Ukraine. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:25:12", "end": "00:25:16", "text": "it's a interesting point. We can't vote"}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:18", "text": "these people out no matter. It seems"}, {"start": "00:25:16", "end": "00:25:19", "text": "like we keep trying, but it doesn't seem"}, {"start": "00:25:18", "end": "00:25:22", "text": "to work anymore. I don't know what's"}, {"start": "00:25:19", "end": "00:25:25", "text": "going on. Well, um, let me Sorry, my"}, {"start": "00:25:22", "end": "00:25:27", "text": "notes are all jacked all over the place"}, {"start": "00:25:25", "end": "00:25:30", "text": "now. What is going on here?"}, {"start": "00:25:27", "end": "00:25:33", "text": "Uh, yes. Oh, yeah. Here we go. Well,"}, {"start": "00:25:30", "end": "00:25:36", "text": "Russia says that uh the US is secretly"}, {"start": "00:25:33", "end": "00:25:40", "text": "moving ISIS terrorists out of prison"}, {"start": "00:25:36", "end": "00:25:43", "text": "cells in Syria into Iraq to prepare to"}, {"start": "00:25:40", "end": "00:25:46", "text": "launch an attack against Iran."}, {"start": "00:25:43", "end": "00:25:48", "text": "I know sounds crazy, but why? You know,"}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:49", "text": "it's perfectly normal. We love to team"}, {"start": "00:25:48", "end": "00:25:51", "text": "up with ISIS. We love to team up with"}, {"start": "00:25:49", "end": "00:25:53", "text": "terrorists on a regular basis. Here is"}, {"start": "00:25:51", "end": "00:25:55", "text": "the report. The West planned to use"}, {"start": "00:25:53", "end": "00:25:58", "text": "former ISIS militants against Iran."}, {"start": "00:25:55", "end": "00:26:00", "text": "According to the head of Russia's FSB,"}, {"start": "00:25:58", "end": "00:26:03", "text": "Western spy agencies are intending to"}, {"start": "00:26:00", "end": "00:26:05", "text": "use Syrian militants as a proxy force"}, {"start": "00:26:03", "end": "00:26:07", "text": "against Iran."}, {"start": "00:26:05", "end": "00:26:09", "text": "I mean, it doesn't sound like the West"}, {"start": "00:26:07", "end": "00:26:11", "text": "really wants peace with Iran after all."}, {"start": "00:26:09", "end": "00:26:14", "text": "And if you read the latest report from"}, {"start": "00:26:11", "end": "00:26:16", "text": "Al Arabia, which got its hands on the"}, {"start": "00:26:14", "end": "00:26:19", "text": "quote unquote final draft of a US Iran"}, {"start": "00:26:16", "end": "00:26:21", "text": "peace memorandum, this thing seems to be"}, {"start": "00:26:19", "end": "00:26:22", "text": "a non-starter for Iran. It's like a"}, {"start": "00:26:21", "end": "00:26:26", "text": "laundry list of things that the United"}, {"start": "00:26:22", "end": "00:26:27", "text": "States wants u that Iran probably will"}, {"start": "00:26:26", "end": "00:26:29", "text": "not go along with. Here are just a few"}, {"start": "00:26:27", "end": "00:26:30", "text": "highlights though. The reopening of the"}, {"start": "00:26:29", "end": "00:26:32", "text": "straight of Hormoose to international"}, {"start": "00:26:30", "end": "00:26:35", "text": "navigation without taking any fees or"}, {"start": "00:26:32", "end": "00:26:37", "text": "tolls. Possibility of sanctions being"}, {"start": "00:26:35", "end": "00:26:39", "text": "slowly removed from Iranian oil, but it"}, {"start": "00:26:37", "end": "00:26:41", "text": "would happen in phases. And you know,"}, {"start": "00:26:39", "end": "00:26:43", "text": "you can you can definitely trust the"}, {"start": "00:26:41", "end": "00:26:45", "text": "United States government, right? Wink"}, {"start": "00:26:43", "end": "00:26:47", "text": "wink nudge nudge. So in phases like this"}, {"start": "00:26:45", "end": "00:26:49", "text": "will happen over the course of many many"}, {"start": "00:26:47", "end": "00:26:51", "text": "years perhaps. That's probably a"}, {"start": "00:26:49", "end": "00:26:54", "text": "non-starter for Iran. And the end of"}, {"start": "00:26:51", "end": "00:26:56", "text": "military operations as well by Iran,"}, {"start": "00:26:54", "end": "00:26:58", "text": "including assisting in Lebanon. I'm sure"}, {"start": "00:26:56", "end": "00:26:59", "text": "that there would be an Israeli component"}, {"start": "00:26:58", "end": "00:27:02", "text": "of that as well. Please stop bombing"}, {"start": "00:26:59", "end": "00:27:04", "text": "southern Lebanon. All of that to say,"}, {"start": "00:27:02", "end": "00:27:07", "text": "this doesn't seem like it's coming to"}, {"start": "00:27:04", "end": "00:27:09", "text": "fruition. So, what's in it for Iran and"}, {"start": "00:27:07", "end": "00:27:11", "text": "where do things go next? Um, and Iran"}, {"start": "00:27:09", "end": "00:27:13", "text": "has said we will strike back against"}, {"start": "00:27:11", "end": "00:27:15", "text": "this recent round of attacks against our"}, {"start": "00:27:13", "end": "00:27:18", "text": "country. Colonel Douglas McGregor is"}, {"start": "00:27:15", "end": "00:27:21", "text": "back with us to examine all of that. So,"}, {"start": "00:27:18", "end": "00:27:25", "text": "Colonel, when you hear about this FSB"}, {"start": "00:27:21", "end": "00:27:28", "text": "story out of Syria, the idea that the"}, {"start": "00:27:25", "end": "00:27:29", "text": "United States is secretly grabbing ISIS"}, {"start": "00:27:28", "end": "00:27:32", "text": "militants, rounding them up, arming"}, {"start": "00:27:29", "end": "00:27:34", "text": "them, putting them, moving them to Iraq,"}, {"start": "00:27:32", "end": "00:27:35", "text": "presumably to attack Iran. Are you"}, {"start": "00:27:34", "end": "00:27:36", "text": "surprised by this? What do you make of"}, {"start": "00:27:35", "end": "00:27:38", "text": "it?"}, {"start": "00:27:36", "end": "00:27:40", "text": "Well, the last time I looked, we"}, {"start": "00:27:38", "end": "00:27:42", "text": "established a government in Damascus"}, {"start": "00:27:40", "end": "00:27:46", "text": "that took control of Syria that was"}, {"start": "00:27:42", "end": "00:27:49", "text": "essentially a a group of ISIS graduates"}, {"start": "00:27:46", "end": "00:27:51", "text": "or al-Qaeda members and so forth. So,"}, {"start": "00:27:49", "end": "00:27:53", "text": "this sort of thing has been going on"}, {"start": "00:27:51", "end": "00:27:55", "text": "forever in the region. Uh, the Mossad,"}, {"start": "00:27:53", "end": "00:27:57", "text": "as you implied, is very good at this."}, {"start": "00:27:55", "end": "00:28:00", "text": "They know how to manipulate the various"}, {"start": "00:27:57", "end": "00:28:01", "text": "groups and turn them against each other."}, {"start": "00:28:00", "end": "00:28:03", "text": "I think that's what we're trying to do"}, {"start": "00:28:01", "end": "00:28:06", "text": "now with Iran. But this is another"}, {"start": "00:28:03", "end": "00:28:08", "text": "measure of how desperate we are. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:28:06", "end": "00:28:10", "text": "this is not going to change anything."}, {"start": "00:28:08", "end": "00:28:12", "text": "And the Iranians are eminently well"}, {"start": "00:28:10", "end": "00:28:15", "text": "equipped to deal with that. And remember"}, {"start": "00:28:12", "end": "00:28:18", "text": "that when they tried to arm and and set"}, {"start": "00:28:15", "end": "00:28:20", "text": "send over a group of Azeri Turks that"}, {"start": "00:28:18", "end": "00:28:24", "text": "were from just across the border also"}, {"start": "00:28:20", "end": "00:28:26", "text": "along with some Kurds, uh the Turkish"}, {"start": "00:28:24", "end": "00:28:28", "text": "military intelligence actually warned"}, {"start": "00:28:26", "end": "00:28:29", "text": "the Iranians and the Iranians were able"}, {"start": "00:28:28", "end": "00:28:32", "text": "to annihilate the group before it ever"}, {"start": "00:28:29", "end": "00:28:33", "text": "got into the country. Uh, I think the"}, {"start": "00:28:32", "end": "00:28:35", "text": "Iranians can handle this. But the"}, {"start": "00:28:33", "end": "00:28:37", "text": "problem is that this sort of thing"}, {"start": "00:28:35", "end": "00:28:39", "text": "reinforces"}, {"start": "00:28:37", "end": "00:28:42", "text": "the conviction in Thrron that any"}, {"start": "00:28:39", "end": "00:28:43", "text": "agreement reached with us is worthless."}, {"start": "00:28:42", "end": "00:28:45", "text": "That we're not going to stand by"}, {"start": "00:28:43", "end": "00:28:48", "text": "anything. We can't be trusted. We lie"}, {"start": "00:28:45", "end": "00:28:50", "text": "all the time. And so what's the"}, {"start": "00:28:48", "end": "00:28:53", "text": "rationale for signing anything with us"}, {"start": "00:28:50", "end": "00:28:54", "text": "under any circumstances? That's the bad"}, {"start": "00:28:53", "end": "00:28:56", "text": "news. That's why this is a really bad"}, {"start": "00:28:54", "end": "00:28:59", "text": "idea."}, {"start": "00:28:56", "end": "00:29:03", "text": "Well, but it's not unusual because the"}, {"start": "00:28:59", "end": "00:29:05", "text": "United States has supported MEK, which"}, {"start": "00:29:03", "end": "00:29:08", "text": "was a terrorist group designated until"}, {"start": "00:29:05", "end": "00:29:10", "text": "2012 when Obama decided they weren't any"}, {"start": "00:29:08", "end": "00:29:14", "text": "longer because they were designated as"}, {"start": "00:29:10", "end": "00:29:17", "text": "helpful. And so Iran must expect this."}, {"start": "00:29:14", "end": "00:29:18", "text": "It's not it's it's totally in character,"}, {"start": "00:29:17", "end": "00:29:21", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "00:29:18", "end": "00:29:23", "text": ">> Yes. I I that's why I say I don't think"}, {"start": "00:29:21", "end": "00:29:24", "text": "the Iranians feel particularly"}, {"start": "00:29:23", "end": "00:29:26", "text": "threatened by this. This is something"}, {"start": "00:29:24", "end": "00:29:27", "text": "they could handle. They know the region"}, {"start": "00:29:26", "end": "00:29:28", "text": "better than we do and they certainly"}, {"start": "00:29:27", "end": "00:29:32", "text": "understand what they're dealing with in"}, {"start": "00:29:28", "end": "00:29:34", "text": "the Israeli camp. It's also reminiscent"}, {"start": "00:29:32", "end": "00:29:36", "text": "of what we did after World War II and"}, {"start": "00:29:34", "end": "00:29:39", "text": "the Carpathians in in Western Ukraine."}, {"start": "00:29:36", "end": "00:29:41", "text": "We armed all of the people that uh were"}, {"start": "00:29:39", "end": "00:29:44", "text": "called banderites that had been part of"}, {"start": "00:29:41", "end": "00:29:46", "text": "the sort of rogue organizations"}, {"start": "00:29:44", "end": "00:29:48", "text": "loosely associated with the Nazis and"}, {"start": "00:29:46", "end": "00:29:49", "text": "some were directly but a group of"}, {"start": "00:29:48", "end": "00:29:52", "text": "nationalists who were willing to fight"}, {"start": "00:29:49", "end": "00:29:54", "text": "to the bitter end. So we armed them and"}, {"start": "00:29:52", "end": "00:29:56", "text": "in fact it was Yarajielski who is a"}, {"start": "00:29:54", "end": "00:29:58", "text": "Polish officer at the time, young"}, {"start": "00:29:56", "end": "00:30:00", "text": "officer who endeared himself to his"}, {"start": "00:29:58", "end": "00:30:02", "text": "Soviet masters by going into the"}, {"start": "00:30:00", "end": "00:30:04", "text": "mountains, rooting them out and killing"}, {"start": "00:30:02", "end": "00:30:06", "text": "them. This is this is not new. We've"}, {"start": "00:30:04", "end": "00:30:08", "text": "done this. The Israelis have done it."}, {"start": "00:30:06", "end": "00:30:10", "text": "The British are very good at it."}, {"start": "00:30:08", "end": "00:30:12", "text": "The the problem I have with it though is"}, {"start": "00:30:10", "end": "00:30:14", "text": "that if you're really interested, and I"}, {"start": "00:30:12", "end": "00:30:16", "text": "don't think we are, frankly, but if"}, {"start": "00:30:14", "end": "00:30:19", "text": "you're really interested in coming to an"}, {"start": "00:30:16", "end": "00:30:21", "text": "agreement that has any chance of lasting"}, {"start": "00:30:19", "end": "00:30:23", "text": "uh about the Persian Gulf and in our"}, {"start": "00:30:21", "end": "00:30:25", "text": "relations with Iran right now, this is"}, {"start": "00:30:23", "end": "00:30:28", "text": "not something you do. You can't conceal"}, {"start": "00:30:25", "end": "00:30:30", "text": "it. Everybody finds out,"}, {"start": "00:30:28", "end": "00:30:33", "text": ">> right? It's plastic all over the"}, {"start": "00:30:30", "end": "00:30:35", "text": "newspapers now. It's pretty obvious. Um"}, {"start": "00:30:33", "end": "00:30:37", "text": "so just a few minutes ago Colonel"}, {"start": "00:30:35", "end": "00:30:39", "text": "President Trump was uh was said that the"}, {"start": "00:30:37", "end": "00:30:41", "text": "straight of Hormuse will be open to"}, {"start": "00:30:39", "end": "00:30:44", "text": "everyone. It will not be controlled by"}, {"start": "00:30:41", "end": "00:30:46", "text": "any country under any deal reached with"}, {"start": "00:30:44", "end": "00:30:49", "text": "Iran. There will be no discussions about"}, {"start": "00:30:46", "end": "00:30:51", "text": "easing sanctions on Tyrron. So that was"}, {"start": "00:30:49", "end": "00:30:54", "text": "that's of course a huge piece of the"}, {"start": "00:30:51", "end": "00:30:57", "text": "Iranian part of their deal removing of"}, {"start": "00:30:54", "end": "00:30:59", "text": "the sanctions and that they will control"}, {"start": "00:30:57", "end": "00:31:02", "text": "the straight of Hormuz. So it and then"}, {"start": "00:30:59", "end": "00:31:03", "text": "Iran also of course saying that they"}, {"start": "00:31:02", "end": "00:31:06", "text": "will respond and retaliate for these"}, {"start": "00:31:03", "end": "00:31:08", "text": "recent tacts over the weekend. Um there"}, {"start": "00:31:06", "end": "00:31:09", "text": "doesn't seem to be any any end in sight"}, {"start": "00:31:08", "end": "00:31:12", "text": "to this."}, {"start": "00:31:09", "end": "00:31:14", "text": ">> No, I I haven't heard or seen anything"}, {"start": "00:31:12", "end": "00:31:17", "text": "that I would describe as meaningful. I"}, {"start": "00:31:14", "end": "00:31:18", "text": "mean, how do you follow these tweets and"}, {"start": "00:31:17", "end": "00:31:21", "text": "come up with some sort of coherent"}, {"start": "00:31:18", "end": "00:31:23", "text": "strategy or policy? I mean, if you're a"}, {"start": "00:31:21", "end": "00:31:24", "text": "schizophrenic, maybe you understand what"}, {"start": "00:31:23", "end": "00:31:26", "text": "he's talking about, but the rest of us"}, {"start": "00:31:24", "end": "00:31:29", "text": "with normal minds, no, we can't figure"}, {"start": "00:31:26", "end": "00:31:32", "text": "it out. and his policies change from"}, {"start": "00:31:29", "end": "00:31:35", "text": "tweet to tweet as you just pointed out."}, {"start": "00:31:32", "end": "00:31:36", "text": "Uh, and it's ridiculous. First of all,"}, {"start": "00:31:35", "end": "00:31:39", "text": "somebody said somewhere along the line"}, {"start": "00:31:36", "end": "00:31:41", "text": "that possession was 9/10en of the law."}, {"start": "00:31:39", "end": "00:31:44", "text": "Well, here's a blinding flash of the"}, {"start": "00:31:41", "end": "00:31:46", "text": "obvious. Iran controls the straight of"}, {"start": "00:31:44", "end": "00:31:49", "text": "Hormuz. We don't. So, I don't know who"}, {"start": "00:31:46", "end": "00:31:50", "text": "he's kidding. Uh secondly, and we've"}, {"start": "00:31:49", "end": "00:31:51", "text": "talked about this before, we had"}, {"start": "00:31:50", "end": "00:31:55", "text": "something we have something called the"}, {"start": "00:31:51", "end": "00:31:58", "text": "Montreuse Convention, which uh was"}, {"start": "00:31:55", "end": "00:32:01", "text": "signed in 1926 after World War I by the"}, {"start": "00:31:58", "end": "00:32:03", "text": "various belligerent, co-elligerent,"}, {"start": "00:32:01", "end": "00:32:06", "text": "and they decided that Turkey should"}, {"start": "00:32:03", "end": "00:32:08", "text": "control the straight and everybody"}, {"start": "00:32:06", "end": "00:32:10", "text": "agreed to the conditions under which the"}, {"start": "00:32:08", "end": "00:32:12", "text": "strait would be governed. Turkey signed"}, {"start": "00:32:10", "end": "00:32:14", "text": "up for it. We've never had any problems"}, {"start": "00:32:12", "end": "00:32:17", "text": "with the dinels. The Turks have done an"}, {"start": "00:32:14", "end": "00:32:19", "text": "excellent job of uh conducting ships in"}, {"start": "00:32:17", "end": "00:32:20", "text": "and out of it. I think something similar"}, {"start": "00:32:19", "end": "00:32:23", "text": "is going to happen in the straight of"}, {"start": "00:32:20", "end": "00:32:27", "text": "Hormuz. And I imagine that Iran will end"}, {"start": "00:32:23", "end": "00:32:30", "text": "up uh if it's not uh the major factor in"}, {"start": "00:32:27", "end": "00:32:33", "text": "it, it'll probably be de facto the"}, {"start": "00:32:30", "end": "00:32:34", "text": "controlling authority and that's not"}, {"start": "00:32:33", "end": "00:32:36", "text": "surprising. They control most of the"}, {"start": "00:32:34", "end": "00:32:39", "text": "coastline that is on the straight of"}, {"start": "00:32:36", "end": "00:32:41", "text": "Hormuz. And again, they have an"}, {"start": "00:32:39", "end": "00:32:42", "text": "incentive to keep it running and keep it"}, {"start": "00:32:41", "end": "00:32:44", "text": "flowing because they too want the oil"}, {"start": "00:32:42", "end": "00:32:46", "text": "and the gas and all the other things"}, {"start": "00:32:44", "end": "00:32:49", "text": "that are missing now, fertilizer,"}, {"start": "00:32:46", "end": "00:32:52", "text": "sulfuric acid, hydrogen, nitrogen, and"}, {"start": "00:32:49", "end": "00:32:54", "text": "so forth from from uh being everything"}, {"start": "00:32:52", "end": "00:32:57", "text": "that's being kept inside the Gulf. They"}, {"start": "00:32:54", "end": "00:32:59", "text": "want to get it out. So, I I don't see a"}, {"start": "00:32:57", "end": "00:33:01", "text": "problem. But this this doesn't have"}, {"start": "00:32:59", "end": "00:33:03", "text": "anything to do with rationality."}, {"start": "00:33:01", "end": "00:33:07", "text": "There is no rationality involved in"}, {"start": "00:33:03", "end": "00:33:10", "text": "this. You're dealing with two two"}, {"start": "00:33:07", "end": "00:33:13", "text": "serious problems. Number one, Israel."}, {"start": "00:33:10", "end": "00:33:15", "text": "Israel has veto authority over anything"}, {"start": "00:33:13", "end": "00:33:18", "text": "that President Trump decides to do. He"}, {"start": "00:33:15", "end": "00:33:22", "text": "is not in charge. He is responding to"}, {"start": "00:33:18", "end": "00:33:24", "text": "Netanyahu. The demands he sets for forth"}, {"start": "00:33:22", "end": "00:33:26", "text": "in front of the uh Iranians and says"}, {"start": "00:33:24", "end": "00:33:28", "text": "these are the things you must do."}, {"start": "00:33:26", "end": "00:33:31", "text": "They're not our demands. Those are"}, {"start": "00:33:28", "end": "00:33:33", "text": "Israeli demands. So somehow or another,"}, {"start": "00:33:31", "end": "00:33:35", "text": "how do you break the hold that Netanyahu"}, {"start": "00:33:33", "end": "00:33:37", "text": "has on President Trump and the United"}, {"start": "00:33:35", "end": "00:33:39", "text": "States government that nobody in"}, {"start": "00:33:37", "end": "00:33:42", "text": "Congress is going to stand up and"}, {"start": "00:33:39", "end": "00:33:45", "text": "jeopardize their income uh if they"}, {"start": "00:33:42", "end": "00:33:48", "text": "oppose uh the Israel lobby and"}, {"start": "00:33:45", "end": "00:33:49", "text": "effectively say no to Mr. Netanyahu. So"}, {"start": "00:33:48", "end": "00:33:52", "text": "that's problem number one. Problem"}, {"start": "00:33:49", "end": "00:33:54", "text": "number two"}, {"start": "00:33:52", "end": "00:33:57", "text": "is President Trump and his personality"}, {"start": "00:33:54", "end": "00:33:59", "text": "and his fear of being castigated and"}, {"start": "00:33:57", "end": "00:34:02", "text": "humiliated for having done this done"}, {"start": "00:33:59", "end": "00:34:06", "text": "this stupid thing and attacking Iran was"}, {"start": "00:34:02", "end": "00:34:08", "text": "a very dumb idea. Uh anybody with any"}, {"start": "00:34:06", "end": "00:34:11", "text": "sense knew that and there is nothing"}, {"start": "00:34:08", "end": "00:34:13", "text": "that justifies the total mobilization"}, {"start": "00:34:11", "end": "00:34:16", "text": "for war that it would require for us to"}, {"start": "00:34:13", "end": "00:34:18", "text": "take control of Iran. We're not going to"}, {"start": "00:34:16", "end": "00:34:20", "text": "implement a draft and bring over a"}, {"start": "00:34:18", "end": "00:34:22", "text": "million people to run all over the"}, {"start": "00:34:20", "end": "00:34:24", "text": "countryside and control Iran. It's"}, {"start": "00:34:22", "end": "00:34:27", "text": "ridiculous. Nobody wants to do that."}, {"start": "00:34:24", "end": "00:34:29", "text": "Nobody will support it. So, how does he"}, {"start": "00:34:27", "end": "00:34:31", "text": "get out of it without embarrassing"}, {"start": "00:34:29", "end": "00:34:33", "text": "himself? I think that's a serious"}, {"start": "00:34:31", "end": "00:34:35", "text": "problem. And if you turn to Mr."}, {"start": "00:34:33", "end": "00:34:37", "text": "Netanyahu and his agents inside the"}, {"start": "00:34:35", "end": "00:34:39", "text": "United States, the billionaires that put"}, {"start": "00:34:37", "end": "00:34:41", "text": "Trump where he is, and you tell them,"}, {"start": "00:34:39", "end": "00:34:44", "text": "\"Well, I'm sorry, guys. I can't go any"}, {"start": "00:34:41", "end": "00:34:46", "text": "further. This has to stop. So, I'm"}, {"start": "00:34:44", "end": "00:34:47", "text": "pulling the plug. They're going to look"}, {"start": "00:34:46", "end": "00:34:49", "text": "at him and say, \"Well, then we're"}, {"start": "00:34:47", "end": "00:34:51", "text": "pulling the plug on you, my friend."}, {"start": "00:34:49", "end": "00:34:54", "text": "We're we're taking away the billions of"}, {"start": "00:34:51", "end": "00:34:56", "text": "dollars that we've helped you get. We're"}, {"start": "00:34:54", "end": "00:34:58", "text": "subtracting those from your side of the"}, {"start": "00:34:56", "end": "00:35:00", "text": "ledger. More important, we're not going"}, {"start": "00:34:58", "end": "00:35:02", "text": "to protect you anymore from the attacks"}, {"start": "00:35:00", "end": "00:35:04", "text": "that you're going to sustain from"}, {"start": "00:35:02", "end": "00:35:06", "text": "Congress. Congress will eat you alive"}, {"start": "00:35:04", "end": "00:35:09", "text": "without us. So, if you don't do what we"}, {"start": "00:35:06", "end": "00:35:12", "text": "say, you've had it.\" Those are the grim"}, {"start": "00:35:09", "end": "00:35:14", "text": "facts. And also we will release the"}, {"start": "00:35:12", "end": "00:35:16", "text": "compromat and whatever is hidden in"}, {"start": "00:35:14", "end": "00:35:18", "text": "these Epstein files that we've enabled"}, {"start": "00:35:16", "end": "00:35:20", "text": "you to hide from the rest of us and you"}, {"start": "00:35:18", "end": "00:35:22", "text": "know the millions of documents that we"}, {"start": "00:35:20", "end": "00:35:25", "text": "still are not allowed to see as a result"}, {"start": "00:35:22", "end": "00:35:27", "text": "of it. Um I think you're absolutely"}, {"start": "00:35:25", "end": "00:35:28", "text": "right. Where do you think the what do"}, {"start": "00:35:27", "end": "00:35:31", "text": "you think happens next here? I mean are"}, {"start": "00:35:28", "end": "00:35:33", "text": "we heading back to a full-scale hot war?"}, {"start": "00:35:31", "end": "00:35:36", "text": "Uh, I you know I I feel like Richard"}, {"start": "00:35:33", "end": "00:35:38", "text": "Nixon I'm glad you asked that question"}, {"start": "00:35:36", "end": "00:35:40", "text": "because there are some other things that"}, {"start": "00:35:38", "end": "00:35:43", "text": "that we don't usually mention that we"}, {"start": "00:35:40", "end": "00:35:45", "text": "really do need to talk about. Uh, a lot"}, {"start": "00:35:43", "end": "00:35:50", "text": "of people don't seem to understand that"}, {"start": "00:35:45", "end": "00:35:52", "text": "uh inflation in April jumped from 3.2 to"}, {"start": "00:35:50", "end": "00:35:55", "text": "3.8%."}, {"start": "00:35:52", "end": "00:35:59", "text": "Projections for the next quarter or two"}, {"start": "00:35:55", "end": "00:36:02", "text": "suggest that we may hit 6% inflation."}, {"start": "00:35:59", "end": "00:36:04", "text": "Well, if you go up to 5% or 6%"}, {"start": "00:36:02", "end": "00:36:08", "text": "inflation, that means that your interest"}, {"start": "00:36:04", "end": "00:36:12", "text": "rates should be fixed at 6% or 7%. Right"}, {"start": "00:36:08", "end": "00:36:15", "text": "now, they are fixed at 3.75%"}, {"start": "00:36:12", "end": "00:36:17", "text": "below inflation. And what does this"}, {"start": "00:36:15", "end": "00:36:19", "text": "mean? This means if you try to fix it"}, {"start": "00:36:17", "end": "00:36:22", "text": "and suppress the inflation and you raise"}, {"start": "00:36:19", "end": "00:36:25", "text": "those rates, our our financial system"}, {"start": "00:36:22", "end": "00:36:27", "text": "will collapse. The economy won't survive"}, {"start": "00:36:25", "end": "00:36:30", "text": "it. You know, we now have the president"}, {"start": "00:36:27", "end": "00:36:34", "text": "has also dipped into the uh"}, {"start": "00:36:30", "end": "00:36:36", "text": "uh SPR, the strategic petroleum reserve."}, {"start": "00:36:34", "end": "00:36:39", "text": "Remember when Biden did this and this"}, {"start": "00:36:36", "end": "00:36:41", "text": "was during co and Trump spoke out and"}, {"start": "00:36:39", "end": "00:36:44", "text": "raged against it saying this was"}, {"start": "00:36:41", "end": "00:36:46", "text": "irresponsible and so forth. Well, I"}, {"start": "00:36:44", "end": "00:36:49", "text": "found out uh yesterday that he sold"}, {"start": "00:36:46", "end": "00:36:53", "text": "something in the neighborhood of 17.8 8"}, {"start": "00:36:49", "end": "00:36:56", "text": "million barrels of oil la just this uh"}, {"start": "00:36:53", "end": "00:36:58", "text": "within the last week uh as an effort to"}, {"start": "00:36:56", "end": "00:37:01", "text": "suppress the prices of oil to keep it"}, {"start": "00:36:58", "end": "00:37:05", "text": "below $110 per barrel. Well, the problem"}, {"start": "00:37:01", "end": "00:37:07", "text": "with this is at this rate our strategic"}, {"start": "00:37:05", "end": "00:37:09", "text": "petroleum reserve will probably be"}, {"start": "00:37:07", "end": "00:37:12", "text": "exhausted by the end of July, beginning"}, {"start": "00:37:09", "end": "00:37:15", "text": "of August, especially since he's also"}, {"start": "00:37:12", "end": "00:37:17", "text": "sold below market price unknown"}, {"start": "00:37:15", "end": "00:37:20", "text": "quantities of oil to some of our Asian"}, {"start": "00:37:17", "end": "00:37:22", "text": "friends. Now, doubtlessly this was done"}, {"start": "00:37:20", "end": "00:37:24", "text": "because after all, he never bothered to"}, {"start": "00:37:22", "end": "00:37:26", "text": "ask them what they thought about his"}, {"start": "00:37:24", "end": "00:37:29", "text": "dumb idea of attacking Iran. Uh, and"}, {"start": "00:37:26", "end": "00:37:30", "text": "this has tried to ease the damage. But"}, {"start": "00:37:29", "end": "00:37:33", "text": "this is not a long-term solution. This"}, {"start": "00:37:30", "end": "00:37:36", "text": "is all short-term thinking. What happens"}, {"start": "00:37:33", "end": "00:37:37", "text": "when you hit bottom on this strategic"}, {"start": "00:37:36", "end": "00:37:41", "text": "petroleum reserve? What happens when you"}, {"start": "00:37:37", "end": "00:37:43", "text": "can't skirt or skate away from the"}, {"start": "00:37:41", "end": "00:37:45", "text": "consequences?"}, {"start": "00:37:43", "end": "00:37:46", "text": "You know, right now people think that"}, {"start": "00:37:45", "end": "00:37:49", "text": "when all the chickens come home to"}, {"start": "00:37:46", "end": "00:37:52", "text": "roost, and I'm talking about everything,"}, {"start": "00:37:49", "end": "00:37:53", "text": "the loss of oil around the world and and"}, {"start": "00:37:52", "end": "00:37:58", "text": "the gas and the minerals and everything"}, {"start": "00:37:53", "end": "00:38:00", "text": "else, we could see as much as a 36%"}, {"start": "00:37:58", "end": "00:38:03", "text": "reduction in the size of the global"}, {"start": "00:38:00", "end": "00:38:06", "text": "economy. Now, why is that important?"}, {"start": "00:38:03", "end": "00:38:09", "text": "Because during the great depression, uh"}, {"start": "00:38:06", "end": "00:38:13", "text": "the world economy was reduced by 20%."}, {"start": "00:38:09", "end": "00:38:15", "text": ">> Gez. However, we had an advantage,"}, {"start": "00:38:13", "end": "00:38:17", "text": "believe it or not, during the 30s in the"}, {"start": "00:38:15", "end": "00:38:20", "text": "United States. And one advantage that we"}, {"start": "00:38:17", "end": "00:38:22", "text": "had was that all of our allies during"}, {"start": "00:38:20", "end": "00:38:25", "text": "World War I owed us lot owed us lots of"}, {"start": "00:38:22", "end": "00:38:28", "text": "money because we'd sold them not just"}, {"start": "00:38:25", "end": "00:38:30", "text": "weapons and and uh bullets and so forth,"}, {"start": "00:38:28", "end": "00:38:32", "text": "we also sold them a lot of food and a"}, {"start": "00:38:30", "end": "00:38:35", "text": "lot of other mineral resources. And we"}, {"start": "00:38:32", "end": "00:38:37", "text": "asked that they pay for those things in"}, {"start": "00:38:35", "end": "00:38:40", "text": "gold. So, we had a lot of gold pouring"}, {"start": "00:38:37", "end": "00:38:43", "text": "into our country. And then finally, our"}, {"start": "00:38:40", "end": "00:38:46", "text": "debt to GDP ratio was so small it it was"}, {"start": "00:38:43", "end": "00:38:49", "text": "hardly worth mentioning in the 1930s."}, {"start": "00:38:46", "end": "00:38:50", "text": "Today, our debt to GDP ratio is 125%."}, {"start": "00:38:49", "end": "00:38:53", "text": "Some people say it's higher. It's"}, {"start": "00:38:50", "end": "00:38:56", "text": "actually 130, but it's certainly"}, {"start": "00:38:53", "end": "00:38:58", "text": "climbing. It's not by any means being"}, {"start": "00:38:56", "end": "00:39:01", "text": "reduced. You put all of that together"}, {"start": "00:38:58", "end": "00:39:04", "text": "and he's sitting on top of a very large"}, {"start": "00:39:01", "end": "00:39:10", "text": "ticking time bomb politically, socially,"}, {"start": "00:39:04", "end": "00:39:13", "text": "culturally, financially, economically."}, {"start": "00:39:10", "end": "00:39:16", "text": "I mean, it's really hard to imagine that"}, {"start": "00:39:13", "end": "00:39:19", "text": "Americans support this and most of them"}, {"start": "00:39:16", "end": "00:39:21", "text": "don't. And so,"}, {"start": "00:39:19", "end": "00:39:22", "text": "you continue to see these market"}, {"start": "00:39:21", "end": "00:39:24", "text": "perversions such as the 50-year"}, {"start": "00:39:22", "end": "00:39:26", "text": "mortgage, which will only increase the"}, {"start": "00:39:24", "end": "00:39:29", "text": "price of a house and enslave Americans"}, {"start": "00:39:26", "end": "00:39:32", "text": "for longer. Um, you know, various sort"}, {"start": "00:39:29", "end": "00:39:33", "text": "of band-aids, but it's all it's all a"}, {"start": "00:39:32", "end": "00:39:36", "text": "perversion of a natural financial system"}, {"start": "00:39:33", "end": "00:39:38", "text": "in order to"}, {"start": "00:39:36", "end": "00:39:40", "text": "enrage these wars. And I think Americans"}, {"start": "00:39:38", "end": "00:39:42", "text": "are seeing it. So that is both the"}, {"start": "00:39:40", "end": "00:39:45", "text": "silver lining for us and the curse, the"}, {"start": "00:39:42", "end": "00:39:47", "text": "poison pill for the administration. It"}, {"start": "00:39:45", "end": "00:39:50", "text": "has to come to a head because we have to"}, {"start": "00:39:47", "end": "00:39:52", "text": "we have to start to reject it. Is there"}, {"start": "00:39:50", "end": "00:39:55", "text": "any way we can do that other than just"}, {"start": "00:39:52", "end": "00:39:56", "text": "complaining here unprotected?"}, {"start": "00:39:55", "end": "00:40:00", "text": ">> Well, someone sent me a chart this"}, {"start": "00:39:56", "end": "00:40:03", "text": "morning showing that 90% of the spending"}, {"start": "00:40:00", "end": "00:40:06", "text": "inside the United States is a function"}, {"start": "00:40:03", "end": "00:40:07", "text": "of 10% of the American population."}, {"start": "00:40:06", "end": "00:40:09", "text": "Right."}, {"start": "00:40:07", "end": "00:40:12", "text": ">> And if you look at the distribution of"}, {"start": "00:40:09", "end": "00:40:13", "text": "wealth, it's almost the same. And"}, {"start": "00:40:12", "end": "00:40:16", "text": "normally when you see that kind of"}, {"start": "00:40:13", "end": "00:40:19", "text": "thing, the word revolution springs to"}, {"start": "00:40:16", "end": "00:40:23", "text": "mind because when things collapse, when"}, {"start": "00:40:19", "end": "00:40:24", "text": "things fail, that's when people finally"}, {"start": "00:40:23", "end": "00:40:27", "text": "take to the streets. When you can't buy"}, {"start": "00:40:24", "end": "00:40:29", "text": "gas, when you can't get the food that"}, {"start": "00:40:27", "end": "00:40:33", "text": "you want, when the supply chains break"}, {"start": "00:40:29", "end": "00:40:35", "text": "down, that's when chaos breaks out and"}, {"start": "00:40:33", "end": "00:40:38", "text": "that's when things change. Uh, I don't"}, {"start": "00:40:35", "end": "00:40:40", "text": "know how else to put it because this"}, {"start": "00:40:38", "end": "00:40:43", "text": "sort of malddistribution of wealth gets"}, {"start": "00:40:40", "end": "00:40:45", "text": "worse with each passing day. And if you"}, {"start": "00:40:43", "end": "00:40:47", "text": "look at the White House right now and"}, {"start": "00:40:45", "end": "00:40:49", "text": "the people surrounding President Trump,"}, {"start": "00:40:47", "end": "00:40:51", "text": "they are a microcosm of what I'm"}, {"start": "00:40:49", "end": "00:40:52", "text": "describing."}, {"start": "00:40:51", "end": "00:40:54", "text": "That's what you're seeing. Every time"}, {"start": "00:40:52", "end": "00:40:57", "text": "they manipulate the markets, what do you"}, {"start": "00:40:54", "end": "00:41:01", "text": "see happen? People walk out with"}, {"start": "00:40:57", "end": "00:41:05", "text": "wheelbarrows full of cash all by"}, {"start": "00:41:01", "end": "00:41:08", "text": "shorting something, usually oil. So"}, {"start": "00:41:05", "end": "00:41:10", "text": "there is no easy way out, Natalie. I'm"}, {"start": "00:41:08", "end": "00:41:13", "text": "afraid that the only way out is the hard"}, {"start": "00:41:10", "end": "00:41:14", "text": "way. And I at some point we're going to"}, {"start": "00:41:13", "end": "00:41:17", "text": "see it. I don't know when it happens. I"}, {"start": "00:41:14", "end": "00:41:19", "text": "mean, you got to bring on Nasim Talib,"}, {"start": "00:41:17", "end": "00:41:21", "text": "you know, who invented the black swan."}, {"start": "00:41:19", "end": "00:41:24", "text": "And maybe he can give you a better"}, {"start": "00:41:21", "end": "00:41:25", "text": "assessment there, but the black swan is"}, {"start": "00:41:24", "end": "00:41:27", "text": "definitely going to take off and when it"}, {"start": "00:41:25", "end": "00:41:29", "text": "does, it's going to be hell to pay. And"}, {"start": "00:41:27", "end": "00:41:31", "text": "I don't think right now most people in"}, {"start": "00:41:29", "end": "00:41:33", "text": "Washington are aware of it. I if"}, {"start": "00:41:31", "end": "00:41:34", "text": "anything, they're delusional. They look"}, {"start": "00:41:33", "end": "00:41:37", "text": "at the markets, they don't see the"}, {"start": "00:41:34", "end": "00:41:40", "text": "danger. How you could miss it is beyond"}, {"start": "00:41:37", "end": "00:41:43", "text": "my imagination, but they really don't."}, {"start": "00:41:40", "end": "00:41:45", "text": ">> No. And I saw a report today saying we"}, {"start": "00:41:43", "end": "00:41:48", "text": "could see the markets going up 20, even"}, {"start": "00:41:45", "end": "00:41:50", "text": "30% this year in the midst of all of"}, {"start": "00:41:48", "end": "00:41:52", "text": "this. So, the rich will get richer and"}, {"start": "00:41:50", "end": "00:41:54", "text": "the average Americans will get totally"}, {"start": "00:41:52", "end": "00:41:55", "text": "squeezed. And so, so many people in our"}, {"start": "00:41:54", "end": "00:41:58", "text": "chat room right now say, \"The colonel is"}, {"start": "00:41:55", "end": "00:41:59", "text": "spot on, 100%. I've been saying this.\""}, {"start": "00:41:58", "end": "00:42:02", "text": "Someone said, \"I've been saying this,"}, {"start": "00:41:59", "end": "00:42:05", "text": "god damn it.\" so in our in our chat room"}, {"start": "00:42:02", "end": "00:42:07", "text": "about a second American revolution um"}, {"start": "00:42:05", "end": "00:42:08", "text": "that we're we're facing right now. It's"}, {"start": "00:42:07", "end": "00:42:10", "text": "unsustainable. It's going to fall on"}, {"start": "00:42:08", "end": "00:42:12", "text": "some president's lap at some point,"}, {"start": "00:42:10", "end": "00:42:16", "text": "whether it's Trump or the next person,"}, {"start": "00:42:12", "end": "00:42:18", "text": "but $39 trillion in debt um and an"}, {"start": "00:42:16", "end": "00:42:20", "text": "unsustainable path. It's a I mean, we're"}, {"start": "00:42:18", "end": "00:42:22", "text": "on a collision course for disaster."}, {"start": "00:42:20", "end": "00:42:23", "text": ">> Yeah. The bad news is that I think"}, {"start": "00:42:22", "end": "00:42:25", "text": "President Trump with his decision to go"}, {"start": "00:42:23", "end": "00:42:28", "text": "to war with Iran has actually"}, {"start": "00:42:25", "end": "00:42:30", "text": "accelerated this process."}, {"start": "00:42:28", "end": "00:42:34", "text": "So, I think it's going to land in his"}, {"start": "00:42:30", "end": "00:42:35", "text": "lap whether he likes it or not."}, {"start": "00:42:34", "end": "00:42:36", "text": ">> Well, thank you for that, Colonel. It's"}, {"start": "00:42:35", "end": "00:42:38", "text": "great to talk to you."}, {"start": "00:42:36", "end": "00:42:41", "text": ">> Yeah, thank you. You really that way."}, {"start": "00:42:38", "end": "00:42:43", "text": ">> I do, but only on a personal level, not"}, {"start": "00:42:41", "end": "00:42:45", "text": "about the subject matter. I just I just"}, {"start": "00:42:43", "end": "00:42:47", "text": "happen to like you that much."}, {"start": "00:42:45", "end": "00:42:48", "text": ">> What I love Yeah. What I love What I"}, {"start": "00:42:47", "end": "00:42:50", "text": "love about you is you're able to just"}, {"start": "00:42:48", "end": "00:42:52", "text": "cut through the BS. I mean, and just,"}, {"start": "00:42:50", "end": "00:42:54", "text": "you know, and whether it's not you're"}, {"start": "00:42:52", "end": "00:42:55", "text": "not trying to sugarcoat anything. Just"}, {"start": "00:42:54", "end": "00:42:56", "text": "give it give it straight. And that's"}, {"start": "00:42:55", "end": "00:42:58", "text": "what we need right now. So, I hope"}, {"start": "00:42:56", "end": "00:43:00", "text": "people are paying attention. Um, and"}, {"start": "00:42:58", "end": "00:43:01", "text": "whether JD Vance decides he's not going"}, {"start": "00:43:00", "end": "00:43:03", "text": "to run at all, he doesn't want to be a"}, {"start": "00:43:01", "end": "00:43:05", "text": "part of it. He doesn't want to be handed"}, {"start": "00:43:03", "end": "00:43:07", "text": "this mess. So, I don't know. Something"}, {"start": "00:43:05", "end": "00:43:08", "text": "very something very interesting is"}, {"start": "00:43:07", "end": "00:43:10", "text": "happening right now in Washington. I"}, {"start": "00:43:08", "end": "00:43:12", "text": "think we are we are at a tipping point"}, {"start": "00:43:10", "end": "00:43:13", "text": "moment. So,"}, {"start": "00:43:12", "end": "00:43:15", "text": ">> thank you, Colonel, as always for your"}, {"start": "00:43:13", "end": "00:43:17", "text": "assessment and your analysis. Uh, second"}, {"start": "00:43:15", "end": "00:43:18", "text": "to none. So, thank you, sir. Great to"}, {"start": "00:43:17", "end": "00:43:19", "text": "see you."}, {"start": "00:43:18", "end": "00:43:20", "text": ">> Okay. Thank you all. Byebye."}, {"start": "00:43:19", "end": "00:43:21", "text": ">> Thanks, Doug. All right."}, {"start": "00:43:20", "end": "00:43:23", "text": ">> All right. Coming up, we're going to"}, {"start": "00:43:21", "end": "00:43:24", "text": "talk about the terrorist attacks you're"}, {"start": "00:43:23", "end": "00:43:28", "text": "not supposed to know about. some of the"}, {"start": "00:43:24", "end": "00:43:31", "text": "bloodiest in recent decades. Uh, guess"}, {"start": "00:43:28", "end": "00:43:33", "text": "what? It was not done by Iran. Um, you"}, {"start": "00:43:31", "end": "00:43:34", "text": "want to know who paid for it? Got a"}, {"start": "00:43:33", "end": "00:43:36", "text": "mirror around? If you're a US taxpayer,"}, {"start": "00:43:34", "end": "00:43:38", "text": "it was probably you. Uh, we're going to"}, {"start": "00:43:36", "end": "00:43:39", "text": "go over this because these are the"}, {"start": "00:43:38", "end": "00:43:42", "text": "terror attacks you are not supposed to"}, {"start": "00:43:39", "end": "00:43:43", "text": "feel, you are not supposed to see or"}, {"start": "00:43:42", "end": "00:43:43", "text": "remember. We'll do that in just a"}, {"start": "00:43:43", "end": "00:43:46", "text": "second."}, {"start": "00:43:43", "end": "00:43:50", "text": ">> But first, guys, agenda 2030. Um, it's"}, {"start": "00:43:46", "end": "00:43:52", "text": "real. It's the endgame. And the DOJ's"}, {"start": "00:43:50", "end": "00:43:55", "text": "Epstein files further back it up. The"}, {"start": "00:43:52", "end": "00:43:56", "text": "elites are aren't just trying to hoard"}, {"start": "00:43:55", "end": "00:43:58", "text": "the world's resources. Their total"}, {"start": "00:43:56", "end": "00:44:00", "text": "domination plan is to control us from"}, {"start": "00:43:58", "end": "00:44:03", "text": "the inside out. They've put synthetic"}, {"start": "00:44:00", "end": "00:44:06", "text": "silicon, graphine oxide in us via the"}, {"start": "00:44:03", "end": "00:44:08", "text": "vaccine, even the air and water. Those"}, {"start": "00:44:06", "end": "00:44:10", "text": "two toxins allow the 6G technology"}, {"start": "00:44:08", "end": "00:44:12", "text": "that's rolling out to for forever"}, {"start": "00:44:10", "end": "00:44:14", "text": "connect us to the widebody area network."}, {"start": "00:44:12", "end": "00:44:16", "text": "And that is the key that is the key"}, {"start": "00:44:14", "end": "00:44:19", "text": "component of their plan. And that will"}, {"start": "00:44:16", "end": "00:44:22", "text": "fully turn us into transhuman, fully"}, {"start": "00:44:19", "end": "00:44:24", "text": "controllable computer bios. It's what"}, {"start": "00:44:22", "end": "00:44:26", "text": "they want. It's what the CIA wants. It's"}, {"start": "00:44:24", "end": "00:44:28", "text": "what the globalists have wanted. This is"}, {"start": "00:44:26", "end": "00:44:30", "text": "what David Ike has been warning about"}, {"start": "00:44:28", "end": "00:44:32", "text": "for years. Complete dystopia, but it's"}, {"start": "00:44:30", "end": "00:44:34", "text": "exactly what they want. They're not even"}, {"start": "00:44:32", "end": "00:44:35", "text": "hiding it anymore. And there's never"}, {"start": "00:44:34", "end": "00:44:38", "text": "been a solution to actually cleanse"}, {"start": "00:44:35", "end": "00:44:41", "text": "these toxins out of our body. But now"}, {"start": "00:44:38", "end": "00:44:44", "text": "there is. It's called Masterpiece"}, {"start": "00:44:41", "end": "00:44:46", "text": "Zeolyte Z. It's a natural allnatural"}, {"start": "00:44:44", "end": "00:44:50", "text": "detox formula with two powerful"}, {"start": "00:44:46", "end": "00:44:52", "text": "minerals. One is volcanic zeolyte which"}, {"start": "00:44:50", "end": "00:44:54", "text": "removes these toxins from your body and"}, {"start": "00:44:52", "end": "00:44:57", "text": "the second is sea plasma to replenish"}, {"start": "00:44:54", "end": "00:44:58", "text": "your body with minerals and it's proven."}, {"start": "00:44:57", "end": "00:45:00", "text": "Watch how it works."}, {"start": "00:44:58", "end": "00:45:02", "text": ">> Masterpiece delivers the cplasma"}, {"start": "00:45:00", "end": "00:45:04", "text": "minerals to the blood and cellular"}, {"start": "00:45:02", "end": "00:45:08", "text": "levels to the exact areas where the"}, {"start": "00:45:04", "end": "00:45:11", "text": "toxins are then uses zeolyte to bind the"}, {"start": "00:45:08", "end": "00:45:16", "text": "toxins and carry them out. So your cells"}, {"start": "00:45:11", "end": "00:45:17", "text": "are energized, alkalized and toxinfree."}, {"start": "00:45:16", "end": "00:45:18", "text": "And actually, one of our best guests"}, {"start": "00:45:17", "end": "00:45:20", "text": "that we've had here on the show, Jesse"}, {"start": "00:45:18", "end": "00:45:23", "text": "Beltron, is the leading expert on"}, {"start": "00:45:20", "end": "00:45:25", "text": "transhumanism and havana syndrome, the"}, {"start": "00:45:23", "end": "00:45:27", "text": "bios. He was recently the third-party"}, {"start": "00:45:25", "end": "00:45:29", "text": "analyzer for the masterpiece human"}, {"start": "00:45:27", "end": "00:45:31", "text": "clinical study and tested people's"}, {"start": "00:45:29", "end": "00:45:34", "text": "synthetic siliconbased computer tech"}, {"start": "00:45:31", "end": "00:45:38", "text": "readings before and after taking"}, {"start": "00:45:34", "end": "00:45:41", "text": "Masterpiece Zeolyte Z. And get this,"}, {"start": "00:45:38", "end": "00:45:44", "text": "their semiconductive levels are down 80%"}, {"start": "00:45:41", "end": "00:45:46", "text": "in just 2 months after taking it,"}, {"start": "00:45:44", "end": "00:45:48", "text": "breaking their control system and"}, {"start": "00:45:46", "end": "00:45:49", "text": "removing that threat. And of course, he"}, {"start": "00:45:48", "end": "00:45:51", "text": "was a part of that documentary called"}, {"start": "00:45:49", "end": "00:45:55", "text": "Died Suddenly. And when they examined"}, {"start": "00:45:51", "end": "00:45:57", "text": "corpses in the graveyards, they were"}, {"start": "00:45:55", "end": "00:45:59", "text": "still giving off a signal. They were"}, {"start": "00:45:57", "end": "00:46:00", "text": "giving off a Bluetooth signal. We"}, {"start": "00:45:59", "end": "00:46:02", "text": "feature that here on the show. I"}, {"start": "00:46:00", "end": "00:46:05", "text": "encourage you to go watch that full"}, {"start": "00:46:02", "end": "00:46:06", "text": "interview. It is astonishing to see all"}, {"start": "00:46:05", "end": "00:46:09", "text": "of these corpses that had taken that"}, {"start": "00:46:06", "end": "00:46:11", "text": "shot and were sending off this signal 6"}, {"start": "00:46:09", "end": "00:46:13", "text": "feet under the ground. Like what the"}, {"start": "00:46:11", "end": "00:46:15", "text": "hell? What what are we living in right"}, {"start": "00:46:13", "end": "00:46:16", "text": "now? It's unbelievable. They're even"}, {"start": "00:46:15", "end": "00:46:19", "text": "doing a follow-up documentary now"}, {"start": "00:46:16", "end": "00:46:21", "text": "thankfully on MA because it's so"}, {"start": "00:46:19", "end": "00:46:22", "text": "effective using Masterpiece. Anyway, I"}, {"start": "00:46:21", "end": "00:46:24", "text": "want you guys to check it out right now."}, {"start": "00:46:22", "end": "00:46:27", "text": "Do your own research on it. Just go to"}, {"start": "00:46:24", "end": "00:46:27", "text": "masterpiece.health/redacted."}, {"start": "00:46:28", "end": "00:46:34", "text": "So that's the website. It's not.com."}, {"start": "00:46:30", "end": "00:46:36", "text": "It's masterpiece.alth. health/redacted"}, {"start": "00:46:34", "end": "00:46:38", "text": "and save 10% off of any bottle that you"}, {"start": "00:46:36", "end": "00:46:40", "text": "buy. There it is on your screen. Just"}, {"start": "00:46:38", "end": "00:46:42", "text": "write that down. 10% on any bottle that"}, {"start": "00:46:40", "end": "00:46:44", "text": "you order and go through this cleanse."}, {"start": "00:46:42", "end": "00:46:46", "text": "You're going to feel better, be"}, {"start": "00:46:44", "end": "00:46:47", "text": "depoisoned,"}, {"start": "00:46:46", "end": "00:46:50", "text": "um, and you're going to feel amazing."}, {"start": "00:46:47", "end": "00:46:55", "text": "Stop Agenda 2030 in its tracks and keep"}, {"start": "00:46:50", "end": "00:46:58", "text": "our minds sovereign and the world free."}, {"start": "00:46:55", "end": "00:47:00", "text": ">> Well, we keep hearing that Iran supports"}, {"start": "00:46:58", "end": "00:47:02", "text": "terrorism. Instead of refuting that, I"}, {"start": "00:47:00", "end": "00:47:05", "text": "would like to turn the mirror on the"}, {"start": "00:47:02", "end": "00:47:07", "text": "people who say that the waring class"}, {"start": "00:47:05", "end": "00:47:09", "text": "repeats these things. But they have"}, {"start": "00:47:07", "end": "00:47:12", "text": "blood on their hands, too. And that"}, {"start": "00:47:09", "end": "00:47:14", "text": "includes both political parties in the"}, {"start": "00:47:12", "end": "00:47:16", "text": "US, by the way. Now, here's a short list"}, {"start": "00:47:14", "end": "00:47:19", "text": "of mass killings linked to US power in"}, {"start": "00:47:16", "end": "00:47:22", "text": "the last at least 30 to 40 years. And I"}, {"start": "00:47:19", "end": "00:47:25", "text": "filtered these by at least 100 deaths in"}, {"start": "00:47:22", "end": "00:47:27", "text": "a single day. Now, if I expanded this to"}, {"start": "00:47:25", "end": "00:47:29", "text": "dozens, I would need, I don't know,"}, {"start": "00:47:27", "end": "00:47:31", "text": "dozens of screens. I'm just going to"}, {"start": "00:47:29", "end": "00:47:33", "text": "focus on these today because they're"}, {"start": "00:47:31", "end": "00:47:35", "text": "horrific and they're things that were"}, {"start": "00:47:33", "end": "00:47:38", "text": "speed bumps in American consciousness,"}, {"start": "00:47:35", "end": "00:47:40", "text": "but inform how people abroad think about"}, {"start": "00:47:38", "end": "00:47:43", "text": "us. Now, each of these were funded by US"}, {"start": "00:47:40", "end": "00:47:46", "text": "taxpayers and no one was really ever"}, {"start": "00:47:43", "end": "00:47:48", "text": "held accountable for them. Now, Iran has"}, {"start": "00:47:46", "end": "00:47:51", "text": "never launched anything close to this"}, {"start": "00:47:48", "end": "00:47:54", "text": "magnitude of terror on the US. We may"}, {"start": "00:47:51", "end": "00:47:57", "text": "even add a city to this list and a date"}, {"start": "00:47:54", "end": "00:47:58", "text": "today because Israel has launched deadly"}, {"start": "00:47:57", "end": "00:48:00", "text": "attacks on Ty Lebanon and the"}, {"start": "00:47:58", "end": "00:48:02", "text": "surrounding regions, but we don't know"}, {"start": "00:48:00", "end": "00:48:04", "text": "the death count yet. Reports are still"}, {"start": "00:48:02", "end": "00:48:07", "text": "coming in. We know that Israel issued"}, {"start": "00:48:04", "end": "00:48:09", "text": "evacuation orders overnight. People were"}, {"start": "00:48:07", "end": "00:48:10", "text": "buried in their home. It probably is"}, {"start": "00:48:09", "end": "00:48:12", "text": "going to be a horrific one, so hold on."}, {"start": "00:48:10", "end": "00:48:15", "text": "But we need to wait to see the extent of"}, {"start": "00:48:12", "end": "00:48:18", "text": "it. So, for now, let's rewind the clock"}, {"start": "00:48:15", "end": "00:48:20", "text": "back to 1988, less than a decade after"}, {"start": "00:48:18", "end": "00:48:21", "text": "the Islamic Republic of Iran was"}, {"start": "00:48:20", "end": "00:48:23", "text": "established when the United States"}, {"start": "00:48:21", "end": "00:48:27", "text": "committed one of the deadliest acts ever"}, {"start": "00:48:23", "end": "00:48:29", "text": "carried out on Iranian civilians. The"}, {"start": "00:48:27", "end": "00:48:32", "text": "victim's families are still alive and"}, {"start": "00:48:29", "end": "00:48:35", "text": "still remember this. This was July 3rd,"}, {"start": "00:48:32", "end": "00:48:39", "text": "1988. It's the wreckage of Iranian"}, {"start": "00:48:35", "end": "00:48:41", "text": "Airflight 655. On July 3rd, I just said"}, {"start": "00:48:39", "end": "00:48:44", "text": "that, 1988. It was conducted by the US"}, {"start": "00:48:41", "end": "00:48:46", "text": "Navy warship called the US Vincens. Now"}, {"start": "00:48:44", "end": "00:48:49", "text": "this was a civilian plane flying from"}, {"start": "00:48:46", "end": "00:48:52", "text": "Bandar Abbas headed for Dubai. There"}, {"start": "00:48:49", "end": "00:48:56", "text": "were 290 human beings on board. All"}, {"start": "00:48:52", "end": "00:48:58", "text": "killed in a second by bombs. 66 of them"}, {"start": "00:48:56", "end": "00:49:01", "text": "were children, mothers holding their"}, {"start": "00:48:58", "end": "00:49:03", "text": "babies, grandparents, students, workers"}, {"start": "00:49:01", "end": "00:49:06", "text": "heading for their jobs in Dubai. The"}, {"start": "00:49:03", "end": "00:49:07", "text": "plane was presenting no threat to the US"}, {"start": "00:49:06", "end": "00:49:09", "text": "warship. It was following a normal"}, {"start": "00:49:07", "end": "00:49:12", "text": "commercial flight corridor over the"}, {"start": "00:49:09", "end": "00:49:15", "text": "Persian Gulf, climbing normally. It had"}, {"start": "00:49:12", "end": "00:49:18", "text": "a civilian transponder on board. It was"}, {"start": "00:49:15", "end": "00:49:19", "text": "not diving towards the ship. Uh it was"}, {"start": "00:49:18", "end": "00:49:22", "text": "quite simply a normal 28-minute"}, {"start": "00:49:19", "end": "00:49:25", "text": "commercial flight until missiles tore"}, {"start": "00:49:22", "end": "00:49:27", "text": "the aircraft apart and bodies fell into"}, {"start": "00:49:25", "end": "00:49:30", "text": "the water, body parts floating in the"}, {"start": "00:49:27", "end": "00:49:33", "text": "surface. Now, why did the US do this?"}, {"start": "00:49:30", "end": "00:49:35", "text": "The official explanation was not even an"}, {"start": "00:49:33", "end": "00:49:37", "text": "apology. It was kind of an oops. Uh they"}, {"start": "00:49:35", "end": "00:49:40", "text": "say that they mistook the civilian"}, {"start": "00:49:37", "end": "00:49:42", "text": "Airbus for an attacking Iranian F-14"}, {"start": "00:49:40", "end": "00:49:44", "text": "fighter jet during a tense naval"}, {"start": "00:49:42", "end": "00:49:46", "text": "confrontation in the Persian Gulf. But"}, {"start": "00:49:44", "end": "00:49:49", "text": "there are problems of course with that"}, {"start": "00:49:46", "end": "00:49:51", "text": "excuse. The flight was broadcasting a"}, {"start": "00:49:49", "end": "00:49:55", "text": "civilian transponder signal. It was"}, {"start": "00:49:51", "end": "00:49:58", "text": "flying a known pattern. Multiple"}, {"start": "00:49:55", "end": "00:50:00", "text": "military personnel aboard the US Vincens"}, {"start": "00:49:58", "end": "00:50:03", "text": "reportedly had data indicating that it"}, {"start": "00:50:00", "end": "00:50:05", "text": "was a commercial civilian craft. And"}, {"start": "00:50:03", "end": "00:50:08", "text": "here's another detail that Americans"}, {"start": "00:50:05", "end": "00:50:09", "text": "rarely hear. This happened during the US"}, {"start": "00:50:08", "end": "00:50:12", "text": "aggression on Iran. It was called"}, {"start": "00:50:09", "end": "00:50:15", "text": "Operation Praying Mantis. Just months"}, {"start": "00:50:12", "end": "00:50:17", "text": "earlier, President Reagan had authorized"}, {"start": "00:50:15", "end": "00:50:19", "text": "Praying Mantis, which was the largest US"}, {"start": "00:50:17", "end": "00:50:22", "text": "naval combat operation since World War"}, {"start": "00:50:19", "end": "00:50:25", "text": "II. Their mission was to attack Iranian"}, {"start": "00:50:22", "end": "00:50:28", "text": "oil platforms and naval forces during"}, {"start": "00:50:25", "end": "00:50:31", "text": "the Iran Iraq war. Why were we involved"}, {"start": "00:50:28", "end": "00:50:33", "text": "in the Iran Iraq war? Well, because the"}, {"start": "00:50:31", "end": "00:50:36", "text": "US was backing Iraq in order to topple"}, {"start": "00:50:33", "end": "00:50:39", "text": "Iran, which they did for decades, just a"}, {"start": "00:50:36", "end": "00:50:40", "text": "few years earlier, the United States was"}, {"start": "00:50:39", "end": "00:50:43", "text": "politically aligned with Iran, but"}, {"start": "00:50:40", "end": "00:50:45", "text": "foreign policy shifted on a dime. And"}, {"start": "00:50:43", "end": "00:50:47", "text": "the US decided that Iran was the enemy,"}, {"start": "00:50:45", "end": "00:50:49", "text": "used Saddam Hussein to launch an Iraqi"}, {"start": "00:50:47", "end": "00:50:51", "text": "war on Iran until we decided we didn't"}, {"start": "00:50:49", "end": "00:50:53", "text": "like him anymore and get rid of him."}, {"start": "00:50:51", "end": "00:50:54", "text": "Now, it's worth remembering this is all"}, {"start": "00:50:53", "end": "00:50:57", "text": "happening during the same period that"}, {"start": "00:50:54", "end": "00:50:59", "text": "Iraq was using chemical weapons against"}, {"start": "00:50:57", "end": "00:51:01", "text": "the Iranian troops with the help of the"}, {"start": "00:50:59", "end": "00:51:03", "text": "CIA. That's where they got these"}, {"start": "00:51:01", "end": "00:51:06", "text": "chemical weapons. This happened from"}, {"start": "00:51:03", "end": "00:51:10", "text": "1980 to 1988, killed between 50 and"}, {"start": "00:51:06", "end": "00:51:13", "text": "100,000 people. Uh the 50,000 number is"}, {"start": "00:51:10", "end": "00:51:15", "text": "reported by the CIA. So, we know that we"}, {"start": "00:51:13", "end": "00:51:18", "text": "helped Iraq kill Iranian civilians and"}, {"start": "00:51:15", "end": "00:51:20", "text": "troops on moss. Now, it's notable that"}, {"start": "00:51:18", "end": "00:51:22", "text": "Iran had the technology to use chemical"}, {"start": "00:51:20", "end": "00:51:24", "text": "weapons back then, and they chose not to"}, {"start": "00:51:22", "end": "00:51:27", "text": "based on their Islamic principles. But"}, {"start": "00:51:24", "end": "00:51:30", "text": "back to the downed plane, did the United"}, {"start": "00:51:27", "end": "00:51:33", "text": "States ever apologize for downing that"}, {"start": "00:51:30", "end": "00:51:35", "text": "plane of almost 300 civilians? They did"}, {"start": "00:51:33", "end": "00:51:37", "text": "not. And in fact, Ren uh President"}, {"start": "00:51:35", "end": "00:51:40", "text": "Reagan at the time called it proper"}, {"start": "00:51:37", "end": "00:51:43", "text": "defensive action, which was clearly a"}, {"start": "00:51:40", "end": "00:51:45", "text": "lie. A few weeks later, Vice President"}, {"start": "00:51:43", "end": "00:51:46", "text": "Bush said this."}, {"start": "00:51:45", "end": "00:51:49", "text": ">> I'll never apologize for the United"}, {"start": "00:51:46", "end": "00:51:52", "text": "States of America, ever. I don't care"}, {"start": "00:51:49", "end": "00:51:55", "text": "what the facts are. I will lead her. I"}, {"start": "00:51:52", "end": "00:51:58", "text": "will do my level best to stand up for"}, {"start": "00:51:55", "end": "00:52:00", "text": "freedom and democracy around the world"}, {"start": "00:51:58", "end": "00:52:04", "text": "by keeping the United States of America"}, {"start": "00:52:00", "end": "00:52:06", "text": "strong and by keeping our eyes wide open"}, {"start": "00:52:04", "end": "00:52:08", "text": "as we welcome change in the world by"}, {"start": "00:52:06", "end": "00:52:10", "text": "keeping our eyes wide open."}, {"start": "00:52:08", "end": "00:52:13", "text": ">> Okay. Uh so he said he would not"}, {"start": "00:52:10", "end": "00:52:15", "text": "apologize. He didn't care what the facts"}, {"start": "00:52:13", "end": "00:52:18", "text": "are. You killed 300 people on a civilian"}, {"start": "00:52:15", "end": "00:52:21", "text": "plane. I don't care basically was the US"}, {"start": "00:52:18", "end": "00:52:24", "text": "official position. Now the media did"}, {"start": "00:52:21", "end": "00:52:26", "text": "condemn this for a short period of time"}, {"start": "00:52:24", "end": "00:52:28", "text": "but there were very small consequences"}, {"start": "00:52:26", "end": "00:52:31", "text": "for the United States. There was demand"}, {"start": "00:52:28", "end": "00:52:34", "text": "for the United Nations to condemn the"}, {"start": "00:52:31", "end": "00:52:37", "text": "incident. They did not. Instead, the"}, {"start": "00:52:34", "end": "00:52:40", "text": "United Nations passed Security Council"}, {"start": "00:52:37", "end": "00:52:42", "text": "resolution 616 where United Nations"}, {"start": "00:52:40", "end": "00:52:46", "text": "member states said that they were deeply"}, {"start": "00:52:42", "end": "00:52:50", "text": "distressed and gravely disturbed by the"}, {"start": "00:52:46", "end": "00:52:52", "text": "incident. Wow, big words. Uh Iran did"}, {"start": "00:52:50", "end": "00:52:53", "text": "bring a case against the US in the"}, {"start": "00:52:52", "end": "00:52:57", "text": "International Court of Justice, but the"}, {"start": "00:52:53", "end": "00:53:01", "text": "US settled that case in 1996 for 131.8"}, {"start": "00:52:57", "end": "00:53:03", "text": "million plus two new Airbuses. And that"}, {"start": "00:53:01", "end": "00:53:05", "text": "was the end of that. For Americans, we"}, {"start": "00:53:03", "end": "00:53:08", "text": "have largely been allowed to forget it."}, {"start": "00:53:05", "end": "00:53:09", "text": "Oops. Sorry. Didn't mean to do that."}, {"start": "00:53:08", "end": "00:53:12", "text": "Actually, not even that. Not even a"}, {"start": "00:53:09", "end": "00:53:14", "text": "sorry. But for Iranians, it became a"}, {"start": "00:53:12", "end": "00:53:17", "text": "part of the emotional foundation of"}, {"start": "00:53:14", "end": "00:53:19", "text": "their distrust of the United States. It"}, {"start": "00:53:17", "end": "00:53:22", "text": "was proof in the Iranian worldview that"}, {"start": "00:53:19", "end": "00:53:24", "text": "the United States talks endlessly about"}, {"start": "00:53:22", "end": "00:53:28", "text": "terrorism and civilian protection while"}, {"start": "00:53:24", "end": "00:53:30", "text": "excusing its own mass civilian killings."}, {"start": "00:53:28", "end": "00:53:32", "text": "And in fact, as you can see, this memory"}, {"start": "00:53:30", "end": "00:53:35", "text": "was crystallized in Iranian culture."}, {"start": "00:53:32", "end": "00:53:38", "text": "Here was a stamp that was issued by the"}, {"start": "00:53:35", "end": "00:53:41", "text": "Islamic Republic after the attack. It"}, {"start": "00:53:38", "end": "00:53:43", "text": "was memorialized as an American attack"}, {"start": "00:53:41", "end": "00:53:46", "text": "on innocent civilians that was in"}, {"start": "00:53:43", "end": "00:53:48", "text": "character with American foreign policy."}, {"start": "00:53:46", "end": "00:53:51", "text": "Now, I ask you, if something had"}, {"start": "00:53:48", "end": "00:53:54", "text": "happened like this to us, wouldn't it be"}, {"start": "00:53:51", "end": "00:53:56", "text": "for decades a part of our collective"}, {"start": "00:53:54", "end": "00:53:58", "text": "national trauma? I submit that it would."}, {"start": "00:53:56", "end": "00:54:02", "text": "Think about the pain that we still feel"}, {"start": "00:53:58", "end": "00:54:05", "text": "over 9/11, Coline, any mass shooting."}, {"start": "00:54:02", "end": "00:54:07", "text": "It's solidified in collective pain"}, {"start": "00:54:05", "end": "00:54:10", "text": "experiences and informs our global"}, {"start": "00:54:07", "end": "00:54:13", "text": "worldview. And when you combine that"}, {"start": "00:54:10", "end": "00:54:15", "text": "with later events such as just from this"}, {"start": "00:54:13", "end": "00:54:17", "text": "year alone, the February 28th bombing of"}, {"start": "00:54:15", "end": "00:54:19", "text": "the girl school, you begin to understand"}, {"start": "00:54:17", "end": "00:54:22", "text": "why most Iranians cannot think of the"}, {"start": "00:54:19", "end": "00:54:24", "text": "United States as a force for peace,"}, {"start": "00:54:22", "end": "00:54:27", "text": "democracy, and civilian protection the"}, {"start": "00:54:24", "end": "00:54:30", "text": "way Americans say that they see us."}, {"start": "00:54:27", "end": "00:54:33", "text": "Sure, would you be able to in any form"}, {"start": "00:54:30", "end": "00:54:34", "text": "or fashion after this collective pain"}, {"start": "00:54:33", "end": "00:54:36", "text": "think of the United States as the force"}, {"start": "00:54:34", "end": "00:54:39", "text": "to save you? And again, look at this"}, {"start": "00:54:36", "end": "00:54:41", "text": "short list that I compiled of US backed"}, {"start": "00:54:39", "end": "00:54:44", "text": "terror attacks in the region. And here I"}, {"start": "00:54:41", "end": "00:54:47", "text": "am again only collaborating single day"}, {"start": "00:54:44", "end": "00:54:50", "text": "events with over 100 killings. And even"}, {"start": "00:54:47", "end": "00:54:51", "text": "this list is not exhaustive. If you'd"}, {"start": "00:54:50", "end": "00:54:54", "text": "like to add to it, please do let me"}, {"start": "00:54:51", "end": "00:54:56", "text": "know. But if I were to expand it to US"}, {"start": "00:54:54", "end": "00:54:59", "text": "backed military attacks with at least 10"}, {"start": "00:54:56", "end": "00:55:02", "text": "deaths per day, I would need dozens of"}, {"start": "00:54:59", "end": "00:55:04", "text": "slides. We'd be here for an hour. But"}, {"start": "00:55:02", "end": "00:55:07", "text": "each of these events again is a"}, {"start": "00:55:04", "end": "00:55:10", "text": "collective memory in the region to the"}, {"start": "00:55:07", "end": "00:55:12", "text": "tune of October 7th to Israelis, 911 to"}, {"start": "00:55:10", "end": "00:55:14", "text": "us. But they don't even get a date. We"}, {"start": "00:55:12", "end": "00:55:17", "text": "don't even say 228, which is the day"}, {"start": "00:55:14", "end": "00:55:19", "text": "that we bombed that Minab girl school,"}, {"start": "00:55:17", "end": "00:55:21", "text": "or 48, which is the day that we killed"}, {"start": "00:55:19", "end": "00:55:22", "text": "hundreds in Beirut, uh, while Israel"}, {"start": "00:55:21", "end": "00:55:25", "text": "launched those attacks with our money"}, {"start": "00:55:22", "end": "00:55:28", "text": "and weapons. Um, I I do include here the"}, {"start": "00:55:25", "end": "00:55:30", "text": "Amariah shelter bombing because no"}, {"start": "00:55:28", "end": "00:55:33", "text": "justice ever came from that attack. On"}, {"start": "00:55:30", "end": "00:55:35", "text": "February 13th, 1991, the United States"}, {"start": "00:55:33", "end": "00:55:37", "text": "dropped two precisiong guided bombs on"}, {"start": "00:55:35", "end": "00:55:40", "text": "this shelter in Baghdad where hundreds"}, {"start": "00:55:37", "end": "00:55:43", "text": "of civilians were sheltering from air"}, {"start": "00:55:40", "end": "00:55:45", "text": "raids. The blast sealed people inside,"}, {"start": "00:55:43", "end": "00:55:48", "text": "ignited an inferno so intense that"}, {"start": "00:55:45", "end": "00:55:51", "text": "entire families were burned alive while"}, {"start": "00:55:48", "end": "00:55:54", "text": "many bo bodies were later found melted"}, {"start": "00:55:51", "end": "00:55:56", "text": "into the wall of the shelter. We did"}, {"start": "00:55:54", "end": "00:56:00", "text": "that. Same story for the 1996 Kana"}, {"start": "00:55:56", "end": "00:56:02", "text": "massacre on April 18th, 1996. Israeli"}, {"start": "00:56:00", "end": "00:56:04", "text": "artillery shelled United Nations"}, {"start": "00:56:02", "end": "00:56:06", "text": "compound in Kana, Lebanon. Hundreds of"}, {"start": "00:56:04", "end": "00:56:09", "text": "civilians had taken shelter there during"}, {"start": "00:56:06", "end": "00:56:11", "text": "fighting in southern Lebanon. More than"}, {"start": "00:56:09", "end": "00:56:13", "text": "100 civilians were killed, including"}, {"start": "00:56:11", "end": "00:56:16", "text": "women and children. Bodies were torn"}, {"start": "00:56:13", "end": "00:56:18", "text": "apart in what is believed to be what was"}, {"start": "00:56:16", "end": "00:56:20", "text": "at the time believed to be a safe house."}, {"start": "00:56:18", "end": "00:56:21", "text": "Now, the United Nations later concluded"}, {"start": "00:56:20", "end": "00:56:24", "text": "there was evidence suggesting that the"}, {"start": "00:56:21", "end": "00:56:26", "text": "shelling was deliberate. And of course,"}, {"start": "00:56:24", "end": "00:56:29", "text": "Israel disputed that finding, but 30"}, {"start": "00:56:26", "end": "00:56:32", "text": "years later, Kana Lebanon is again being"}, {"start": "00:56:29", "end": "00:56:34", "text": "attacked by Israel. That's still"}, {"start": "00:56:32", "end": "00:56:36", "text": "happening. In April, Israel killed at"}, {"start": "00:56:34", "end": "00:56:38", "text": "least five people and wounded dozens in"}, {"start": "00:56:36", "end": "00:56:40", "text": "an attack on that city in the middle of"}, {"start": "00:56:38", "end": "00:56:43", "text": "the night. So, I just wonder I just"}, {"start": "00:56:40", "end": "00:56:45", "text": "bring you this historical truth to ask"}, {"start": "00:56:43", "end": "00:56:49", "text": "you again when people scream about the"}, {"start": "00:56:45", "end": "00:56:52", "text": "Iranian regime supporting terrorists. Do"}, {"start": "00:56:49", "end": "00:56:55", "text": "they have a mirror? Do they remember"}, {"start": "00:56:52", "end": "00:56:57", "text": "these things? Do they know who the real"}, {"start": "00:56:55", "end": "00:57:00", "text": "terrorists are? Who has actually shed"}, {"start": "00:56:57", "end": "00:57:01", "text": "blood and who has not? So you should"}, {"start": "00:57:00", "end": "00:57:03", "text": "think about this very short not"}, {"start": "00:57:01", "end": "00:57:06", "text": "exhaustive list. The next time someone"}, {"start": "00:57:03", "end": "00:57:09", "text": "says Iran is a terrorist state or Iran"}, {"start": "00:57:06", "end": "00:57:12", "text": "supports terror. If we were victims like"}, {"start": "00:57:09", "end": "00:57:13", "text": "this, what would we do? When someone"}, {"start": "00:57:12", "end": "00:57:15", "text": "says, \"Oh, they really want to, you"}, {"start": "00:57:13", "end": "00:57:18", "text": "know, they want to hurt Americans.\""}, {"start": "00:57:15", "end": "00:57:19", "text": "Maybe they want this to stop. Maybe"}, {"start": "00:57:18", "end": "00:57:21", "text": "that's what they want when they say"}, {"start": "00:57:19", "end": "00:57:24", "text": "death to this system. And again, uh,"}, {"start": "00:57:21", "end": "00:57:26", "text": "today, Israel launched an attack on Ty"}, {"start": "00:57:24", "end": "00:57:28", "text": "and the surrounding areas in Lebanon"}, {"start": "00:57:26", "end": "00:57:30", "text": "after issuing evacuation orders in the"}, {"start": "00:57:28", "end": "00:57:32", "text": "middle of the night. They bombed an"}, {"start": "00:57:30", "end": "00:57:34", "text": "entire residential building, including a"}, {"start": "00:57:32", "end": "00:57:37", "text": "Palestinian refugee camp with civilians"}, {"start": "00:57:34", "end": "00:57:38", "text": "inside, children, women, men, entire"}, {"start": "00:57:37", "end": "00:57:41", "text": "families now buried in the rubble of"}, {"start": "00:57:38", "end": "00:57:44", "text": "their homes. It is another massacre we"}, {"start": "00:57:41", "end": "00:57:47", "text": "will be invited to forget. So, will we"}, {"start": "00:57:44", "end": "00:57:48", "text": "participate in this charade?"}, {"start": "00:57:47", "end": "00:57:51", "text": "You know, it's interesting to think"}, {"start": "00:57:48", "end": "00:57:53", "text": "about the quote unquote terror attacks"}, {"start": "00:57:51", "end": "00:57:55", "text": "that happen against America and how we"}, {"start": "00:57:53", "end": "00:57:58", "text": "don't have terror attacks happening"}, {"start": "00:57:55", "end": "00:58:01", "text": "against America because we have to"}, {"start": "00:57:58", "end": "00:58:03", "text": "create them. 9/11, the false flag in"}, {"start": "00:58:01", "end": "00:58:05", "text": "order to provoke us into war."}, {"start": "00:58:03", "end": "00:58:08", "text": ">> Like we they keep pushing this charade"}, {"start": "00:58:05", "end": "00:58:10", "text": "on us. People like Mike Pompeo and"}, {"start": "00:58:08", "end": "00:58:12", "text": "Lindsey Graham that Iran for 47 years"}, {"start": "00:58:10", "end": "00:58:14", "text": "has tried to kill Americans and they"}, {"start": "00:58:12", "end": "00:58:16", "text": "shout death to America."}, {"start": "00:58:14", "end": "00:58:19", "text": "really, have they actually attacked us?"}, {"start": "00:58:16", "end": "00:58:21", "text": "Have they killed Americans? Um, Pearl"}, {"start": "00:58:19", "end": "00:58:23", "text": "Harbor, another false flag attack that"}, {"start": "00:58:21", "end": "00:58:25", "text": "we needed to be dragged into a war from."}, {"start": "00:58:23", "end": "00:58:27", "text": "So, again, where are these terror"}, {"start": "00:58:25", "end": "00:58:29", "text": "attacks that the United States is having"}, {"start": "00:58:27", "end": "00:58:31", "text": "to suffer through? No, we are the"}, {"start": "00:58:29", "end": "00:58:33", "text": "perpetrators of these terror attacks in"}, {"start": "00:58:31", "end": "00:58:35", "text": "order for us to carry out this"}, {"start": "00:58:33", "end": "00:58:37", "text": "wararmongering agenda around the world."}, {"start": "00:58:35", "end": "00:58:39", "text": "Well, in fact, when Victoria Nuland was"}, {"start": "00:58:37", "end": "00:58:42", "text": "asked over the weekend, you know, to"}, {"start": "00:58:39", "end": "00:58:43", "text": "debate on this war, she asked, I believe"}, {"start": "00:58:42", "end": "00:58:45", "text": "it was John Mirshimer, \"Do you believe"}, {"start": "00:58:43", "end": "00:58:46", "text": "Iran is a terrorist state? It's a bad"}, {"start": "00:58:45", "end": "00:58:48", "text": "place.\" And they're like, \"No, not"}, {"start": "00:58:46", "end": "00:58:51", "text": "really.\" She didn't come up with facts"}, {"start": "00:58:48", "end": "00:58:52", "text": "to support her world vote. She just kind"}, {"start": "00:58:51", "end": "00:58:55", "text": "of laughed in a demonic way and said,"}, {"start": "00:58:52", "end": "00:58:58", "text": "\"It must be nice to think that, but we"}, {"start": "00:58:55", "end": "00:59:01", "text": "don't have the luxury of feeling that"}, {"start": "00:58:58", "end": "00:59:03", "text": "way.\" Um, you know, we have the neocons"}, {"start": "00:59:01", "end": "00:59:05", "text": "that are responsible for this in the"}, {"start": "00:59:03", "end": "00:59:07", "text": "Republican party, but Democrats have"}, {"start": "00:59:05", "end": "00:59:09", "text": "neocons, too. They're called liberal"}, {"start": "00:59:07", "end": "00:59:12", "text": "internationalists. They sell you this"}, {"start": "00:59:09", "end": "00:59:14", "text": "idea that we need to promote peace while"}, {"start": "00:59:12", "end": "00:59:16", "text": "ignoring the bloodshed that we promote"}, {"start": "00:59:14", "end": "00:59:18", "text": "while promoting that peace. And, you"}, {"start": "00:59:16", "end": "00:59:19", "text": "know, I wish nothing but hell for those"}, {"start": "00:59:18", "end": "00:59:21", "text": "people."}, {"start": "00:59:19", "end": "00:59:23", "text": ">> True. I mean, we were in Serbia not too"}, {"start": "00:59:21", "end": "00:59:25", "text": "long ago and talking to the people of"}, {"start": "00:59:23", "end": "00:59:28", "text": "Serbia and and you know, just they"}, {"start": "00:59:25", "end": "00:59:31", "text": "remember they remember the NATO attack"}, {"start": "00:59:28", "end": "00:59:34", "text": "on them. They remember the was itund or"}, {"start": "00:59:31", "end": "00:59:36", "text": "79 nights of being having to you know"}, {"start": "00:59:34", "end": "00:59:38", "text": "shelter in place um while their city is"}, {"start": "00:59:36", "end": "00:59:39", "text": "being bombed by NATO bombs."}, {"start": "00:59:38", "end": "00:59:41", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:59:39", "end": "00:59:43", "text": ">> Um it's endless. It's endless. the NATO"}, {"start": "00:59:41", "end": "00:59:45", "text": "staybehind armies, Operation Gladadio"}, {"start": "00:59:43", "end": "00:59:47", "text": "and all of the NATO staybehind armies"}, {"start": "00:59:45", "end": "00:59:49", "text": "that carry out terrorist attacks in"}, {"start": "00:59:47", "end": "00:59:51", "text": "order to create this chaos so that we"}, {"start": "00:59:49", "end": "00:59:53", "text": "can have this perpetual state of war."}, {"start": "00:59:51", "end": "00:59:55", "text": "The bombing in Bolognia, Italy that"}, {"start": "00:59:53", "end": "00:59:59", "text": "kills all these people. I mean, on and"}, {"start": "00:59:55", "end": "01:00:01", "text": "on and on. Who's attacking us"}, {"start": "00:59:59", "end": "01:00:03", "text": ">> again? Who's it? No one's attacking us."}, {"start": "01:00:01", "end": "01:00:06", "text": ">> Yeah. the the attacks are coming because"}, {"start": "01:00:03", "end": "01:00:08", "text": "of our own either provocation or or when"}, {"start": "01:00:06", "end": "01:00:10", "text": "President Biden says we've got 50,000"}, {"start": "01:00:08", "end": "01:00:12", "text": "troops in harm's way in the Middle East"}, {"start": "01:00:10", "end": "01:00:14", "text": "and it's only a matter of time before"}, {"start": "01:00:12", "end": "01:00:16", "text": "they're attacked. Yeah. Yeah. You think"}, {"start": "01:00:14", "end": "01:00:19", "text": "you put you put bases in their countries"}, {"start": "01:00:16", "end": "01:00:20", "text": "and in their backyard and then you carry"}, {"start": "01:00:19", "end": "01:00:22", "text": "out provocations through Operation"}, {"start": "01:00:20", "end": "01:00:25", "text": "Gladadio style murders and assassination"}, {"start": "01:00:22", "end": "01:00:27", "text": "attempts and government overthrows and"}, {"start": "01:00:25", "end": "01:00:31", "text": "chilling and killing of children and"}, {"start": "01:00:27", "end": "01:00:33", "text": "arming of of militants like in the case"}, {"start": "01:00:31", "end": "01:00:35", "text": "of Syria of course."}, {"start": "01:00:33", "end": "01:00:37", "text": ">> Right. Well, I might submit that the"}, {"start": "01:00:35", "end": "01:00:40", "text": "Orlando nightclub shooting was an attack"}, {"start": "01:00:37", "end": "01:00:42", "text": "for those ina attacks. It had nothing to"}, {"start": "01:00:40", "end": "01:00:44", "text": "do with homophobia. It was a Middle"}, {"start": "01:00:42", "end": "01:00:46", "text": "Eastern man. I believe he was Afghani."}, {"start": "01:00:44", "end": "01:00:48", "text": "Uh I could be wrong on that. Who said,"}, {"start": "01:00:46", "end": "01:00:49", "text": "\"I just want you to stop attacking my"}, {"start": "01:00:48", "end": "01:00:50", "text": "country, so that's why I'm attacking"}, {"start": "01:00:49", "end": "01:00:51", "text": "yours.\""}, {"start": "01:00:50", "end": "01:00:52", "text": ">> So he shot up Yeah. So he shot up the"}, {"start": "01:00:51", "end": "01:00:53", "text": "Orlando nightclub."}, {"start": "01:00:52", "end": "01:00:55", "text": ">> Right. It had nothing to do with"}, {"start": "01:00:53", "end": "01:00:56", "text": "homophobia. Don't let them sell you that"}, {"start": "01:00:55", "end": "01:00:57", "text": "lie."}, {"start": "01:00:56", "end": "01:00:59", "text": ">> But they couldn't even tell us that on"}, {"start": "01:00:57", "end": "01:01:00", "text": "its face value. Wouldn't it have been"}, {"start": "01:00:59", "end": "01:01:02", "text": "amazing if like the news reports about"}, {"start": "01:01:00", "end": "01:01:04", "text": "the Orlando nightclub shooting were"}, {"start": "01:01:02", "end": "01:01:06", "text": "honest and they're like, \"Yeah, he was a"}, {"start": "01:01:04", "end": "01:01:08", "text": "he was an Afghan national. He was tired"}, {"start": "01:01:06", "end": "01:01:10", "text": "of the killing of his family and people"}, {"start": "01:01:08", "end": "01:01:11", "text": "in his country, so he shot up this"}, {"start": "01:01:10", "end": "01:01:13", "text": "nightclub in Orlando.\" No, they didn't."}, {"start": "01:01:11", "end": "01:01:14", "text": "They lied to us. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:01:13", "end": "01:01:16", "text": ">> And they said that this guy was a"}, {"start": "01:01:14", "end": "01:01:18", "text": "homophobe and he shot up gay rights on"}, {"start": "01:01:16", "end": "01:01:18", "text": "that. Right. Absolutely. That wasn't the"}, {"start": "01:01:18", "end": "01:01:20", "text": "case."}, {"start": "01:01:18", "end": "01:01:22", "text": ">> So Obama Obama rallies around that. He's"}, {"start": "01:01:20", "end": "01:01:22", "text": "like, \"How can we use that to our"}, {"start": "01:01:22", "end": "01:01:22", "text": "advantage?\""}, {"start": "01:01:22", "end": "01:01:24", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:01:22", "end": "01:01:26", "text": ">> He's like, \"Oh, I'll use something from"}, {"start": "01:01:24", "end": "01:01:28", "text": "Rahm Emanuel's playbook. Never let a"}, {"start": "01:01:26", "end": "01:01:29", "text": "good uh, you know, disaster go to waste."}, {"start": "01:01:28", "end": "01:01:33", "text": "Let's do that for gay rights.\""}, {"start": "01:01:29", "end": "01:01:34", "text": ">> Right. So again, I just want to remind"}, {"start": "01:01:33", "end": "01:01:36", "text": "you, you know, these are things that"}, {"start": "01:01:34", "end": "01:01:39", "text": "we're not supposed to remember when we"}, {"start": "01:01:36", "end": "01:01:41", "text": "promote our attacks on Iran, but we do."}, {"start": "01:01:39", "end": "01:01:42", "text": "And you're here unredacted and you do."}, {"start": "01:01:41", "end": "01:01:43", "text": "So, I want to thank you for listening to"}, {"start": "01:01:42", "end": "01:01:46", "text": "that."}, {"start": "01:01:43", "end": "01:01:48", "text": ">> I could go on. Or the USS Liberty or how"}, {"start": "01:01:46", "end": "01:01:50", "text": "Israel was literally planning to target"}, {"start": "01:01:48", "end": "01:01:53", "text": "and kill Americans in Cairo using"}, {"start": "01:01:50", "end": "01:01:54", "text": "Israeli morons, right?"}, {"start": "01:01:53", "end": "01:01:56", "text": ">> You know, I mean, come on. Like,"}, {"start": "01:01:54", "end": "01:01:58", "text": "literally to to provoke us into a war."}, {"start": "01:01:56", "end": "01:02:00", "text": "We don't even have people attacking us."}, {"start": "01:01:58", "end": "01:02:02", "text": "Stop attacking other countries and stop"}, {"start": "01:02:00", "end": "01:02:04", "text": "pretending that they're attacking us."}, {"start": "01:02:02", "end": "01:02:06", "text": ">> Yeah. Attacks. Well, again, we could"}, {"start": "01:02:04", "end": "01:02:08", "text": "talk about, you know, attacks in Ukraine"}, {"start": "01:02:06", "end": "01:02:10", "text": "on this the girls in their college dorm."}, {"start": "01:02:08", "end": "01:02:13", "text": "We could talk about Yes. that was funded"}, {"start": "01:02:10", "end": "01:02:15", "text": "by was technically Russia was in Russia."}, {"start": "01:02:13", "end": "01:02:17", "text": ">> I'm sorry. Yes. The attacks on the"}, {"start": "01:02:15", "end": "01:02:19", "text": "Russian girls in their college dorm. Um"}, {"start": "01:02:17", "end": "01:02:19", "text": "yeah, we could go on and on about this,"}, {"start": "01:02:19", "end": "01:02:21", "text": "but"}, {"start": "01:02:19", "end": "01:02:22", "text": ">> it's a laundry list. Yeah. Forever and"}, {"start": "01:02:21", "end": "01:02:22", "text": "ever."}, {"start": "01:02:22", "end": "01:02:25", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:02:22", "end": "01:02:27", "text": ">> Um but thank you to all of you who watch"}, {"start": "01:02:25", "end": "01:02:28", "text": "because thank you. You are rooted in"}, {"start": "01:02:27", "end": "01:02:30", "text": "reality and you realize that we are"}, {"start": "01:02:28", "end": "01:02:31", "text": "living in a clown world and they are"}, {"start": "01:02:30", "end": "01:02:33", "text": "trying to sell you this propaganda, but"}, {"start": "01:02:31", "end": "01:02:35", "text": "thank you for coming here to try to"}, {"start": "01:02:33", "end": "01:02:36", "text": "navigate through all of this propaganda"}, {"start": "01:02:35", "end": "01:02:38", "text": "and BS"}, {"start": "01:02:36", "end": "01:02:39", "text": "um and all of the fake history books"}, {"start": "01:02:38", "end": "01:02:41", "text": "that they've forced down your throats"}, {"start": "01:02:39", "end": "01:02:43", "text": "over the years. So, but there seems to"}, {"start": "01:02:41", "end": "01:02:44", "text": "be an awakening, you know, because when"}, {"start": "01:02:43", "end": "01:02:46", "text": "you talk to people about Pearl Harbor"}, {"start": "01:02:44", "end": "01:02:47", "text": "now, like people are like, \"Oh, yeah."}, {"start": "01:02:46", "end": "01:02:50", "text": "You mean that false flag attack?\""}, {"start": "01:02:47", "end": "01:02:52", "text": ">> Like people are aware like, \"Oh, FDR"}, {"start": "01:02:50", "end": "01:02:54", "text": "knew about it ahead of time, got us into"}, {"start": "01:02:52", "end": "01:02:55", "text": "this war, didn't tell us about what was"}, {"start": "01:02:54", "end": "01:02:56", "text": "happening in the Philippines, like"}, {"start": "01:02:55", "end": "01:02:59", "text": "intentionally leading us into the war.\""}, {"start": "01:02:56", "end": "01:03:01", "text": "Like, there's an awakening and I'm at"}, {"start": "01:02:59", "end": "01:03:02", "text": "least I'm happy about that. So,"}, {"start": "01:03:01", "end": "01:03:03", "text": ">> yeah."}, {"start": "01:03:02", "end": "01:03:05", "text": ">> Well, we're here. We're talking about"}, {"start": "01:03:03", "end": "01:03:08", "text": "it. Hey, if you want to add to my list"}, {"start": "01:03:05", "end": "01:03:11", "text": "of, you know, again, I I just filtered"}, {"start": "01:03:08", "end": "01:03:14", "text": "by like things I could remember in"}, {"start": "01:03:11", "end": "01:03:17", "text": "recent years that the US funded that"}, {"start": "01:03:14", "end": "01:03:20", "text": "single day 100 plus deaths, but I'm sure"}, {"start": "01:03:17", "end": "01:03:21", "text": "I'm missing plenty. So, um, help me add"}, {"start": "01:03:20", "end": "01:03:23", "text": "to the list. I'm I'm listening."}, {"start": "01:03:21", "end": "01:03:25", "text": ">> Few super chats real quick here. Um,"}, {"start": "01:03:23", "end": "01:03:26", "text": "Independence Free Media says, \"Let's"}, {"start": "01:03:25", "end": "01:03:28", "text": "hope enough people wake up.\" Great show,"}, {"start": "01:03:26", "end": "01:03:30", "text": "you guys. Thank you so much. Thank you"}, {"start": "01:03:28", "end": "01:03:33", "text": "very much. $2 donation. We appreciate"}, {"start": "01:03:30", "end": "01:03:35", "text": "it. Um, Igor Tigor says, \"Everyone"}, {"start": "01:03:33", "end": "01:03:36", "text": "should know about the dancing Israelis.\""}, {"start": "01:03:35", "end": "01:03:36", "text": "Yeah. On"}, {"start": "01:03:36", "end": "01:03:39", "text": ">> on 911."}, {"start": "01:03:36", "end": "01:03:39", "text": ">> On 911. Unbelievable story. Of course."}, {"start": "01:03:39", "end": "01:03:41", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "01:03:39", "end": "01:03:44", "text": ">> Um, and how the FBI investigated them"}, {"start": "01:03:41", "end": "01:03:46", "text": "and then what flew them back to Israel."}, {"start": "01:03:44", "end": "01:03:49", "text": "Uh, don't forget the USS Liberty sailing"}, {"start": "01:03:46", "end": "01:03:52", "text": "prepper Dark Secrets says, \"I wear a hat"}, {"start": "01:03:49", "end": "01:03:54", "text": "on a regular basis of the USS Liberty."}, {"start": "01:03:52", "end": "01:03:55", "text": "I'm happy to talk about it.\" Uh, talk"}, {"start": "01:03:54", "end": "01:03:56", "text": "about it to anyone."}, {"start": "01:03:55", "end": "01:03:58", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "01:03:56", "end": "01:03:59", "text": ">> On a regular basis, I will. And we of"}, {"start": "01:03:58", "end": "01:04:01", "text": "course interviewed, if you want to go"}, {"start": "01:03:59", "end": "01:04:04", "text": "seek it here on the show, interviewed uh"}, {"start": "01:04:01", "end": "01:04:06", "text": "Philip Tui, who was Tui who was a"}, {"start": "01:04:04", "end": "01:04:09", "text": "survivor of the USS Liberty attack. He"}, {"start": "01:04:06", "end": "01:04:11", "text": "was on the ship that day when uh you"}, {"start": "01:04:09", "end": "01:04:13", "text": "know dozens upon dozens of his brethren"}, {"start": "01:04:11", "end": "01:04:16", "text": "were killed by the Israelis um and the"}, {"start": "01:04:13", "end": "01:04:18", "text": "CIA. Uh you can watch that interview"}, {"start": "01:04:16", "end": "01:04:20", "text": "here on the channel uh with Philip."}, {"start": "01:04:18", "end": "01:04:22", "text": "Unbelievable. 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[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "Well, President Trump missed his son Don"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "Jr.'s wedding over the weekend to work"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "on a peace deal with Iran. Now, leaders"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "in the United States, including JD Vance"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "and Secretary of State Marco Rubio, were"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "rushed to the White House. And so, we"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "thought maybe it was going to be a"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "groundbreaking peace deal, but it looks"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "like he missed that wedding for nothing"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "because that peace deal has already"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "turned violent. Now, the US says it"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "launched self-defense strikes in Iran"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "while claiming they were attacking mine"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "lane boats. So, yet again, the US says"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "it can strike first and claim"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "self-defense like it's been doing since"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "President Trump took office in Iran."}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "Now, Sentcom told reporters this does"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "not mean the ceasefire is over. Iran"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "says, \"Yeah, it kind of does. You were"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "firing at us. That's not what a"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "ceasefire is. And in fact, Iran says"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "that they have downed many US drones in"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "their airspace and that this is not what"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "a ceasefire is. I don't know what they"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "think it is, but that's not what it is."}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "Uh here is a video that was released by"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "Iranian state media showing the downed"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "drone. Take a look."}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "So, how many times can the US bomb Iran"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "while looking them straight in the eye"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "at peace talks? Because peace talks are"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "still happening in Pakistan. Have you"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "lost count? How many times? This is now"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "five uh five times that there has been"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "uh bombing while at the same time peace"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "talks. So, okay. Meanwhile, Israel has"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "launched Operation Arrows of Fire into"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "Lebanon. That happened just on Monday"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "with the full backing of the United"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "States. Now, there are reports of"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "evacuations taking place in Beirut. And"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "in northern Israel, schools have all"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "gone to remote learning for the time"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "being, and they say until further notice"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "because they are intending to strike up"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "to upscale their attacks in Lebanon."}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "Now, Iran has demanded many times that"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "Israel withdraw from Lebanon as part of"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "any peace deal. But Israeli Prime"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "Minister Netanyahu says, \"Nope.\" He"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "flatly says, \"We will not do that.\" He"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "says, \"We are not taking our foot off"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "the gas. On the contrary, I've said to"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "step on the gas even harder,\" he said in"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "a video message, uh, which was in"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "Hebrew, so I'm not showing it to you."}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "Now, Al Jazer compiled this map of where"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "Israeli troops have advanced into"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "Lebanon. This map is dated April 27th,"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "so it's nearly a month old, but you see"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "how far Israel has gone into Lebanon in"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "the last month. They've only gone even"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "further. So, we can see a large portion"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "of the country is now under Israeli"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "occupation and they are only going to"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "keep going. Uh now, Israel also is"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "continuing to violate the ceasefire in"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "Gaza. Over the weekend, they fired"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "Saturday, Sunday, and Monday. On Monday,"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "uh, a six-year-old girl was killed in a"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "tent camp. And in fact, on Saturday and"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "Sunday, there were attacks in Gaza as"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "well. On Saturday, a 13-year-old boy was"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "killed. And on Sunday, I'm choosing not"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "to show you this video, but it's"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "absolutely haunting. You can find it"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "yourself of a six-month old baby with a"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "foot blown off. Um,"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "the baby's the baby's kicking and the"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "foot is gone. This is what we're"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "supporting right now. Um, and you can"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "find that yourself. Now, here is Israeli"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "official Ben Gavir saying that Israel"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "will just not allow the US to make a"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "deal with Iran. They're just, you know,"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "here he's asked, and there are"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "subtitles. I'm going to show it to you."}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "Uh, saying, you know, what if the US"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "makes a peace deal with Iran? What are"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "we going to do? And he's saying, we"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "simply will not allow that to happen."}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "Now, think about what he's saying here"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "is that he has a say in what the US"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "does. And he's saying the US is not"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "going home and ending this war because"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "he says so. Watch."}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "Foreign"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "speech. Foreign speech. Foreign speech."}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "Okay, obvious question. What right does"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "he have to say what the US does and does"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "not do in foreign policy with US troops?"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "You know the answer to that. He's saying"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "absolutely not. US troops cannot come"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "home. There's a war that they want and"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "they will make sure it happens."}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:09", "text": ">> We run the show. We're in control. We"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "are the captain now. And by the way, I"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "love at the beginning he says there's a"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "thing there's a real thing called human"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "life. We're we're concerned about human"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "life,"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:17", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:19", "text": ">> There's a real thing called human life"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "that we're concerned about."}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:23", "text": ">> I guess the examples I just showed you"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "of the children that were killed in Gaza"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "doesn't qualify. And in fact, Ben Gavier"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "has said this many times that he doesn't"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "think that um people in of Gaza are"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "human at all. Now, all of this just"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "makes me wonder if the stalled war in"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "Iran is cover for Israel's continued"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "push into Syria, Lebanon, Gaza, the"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "Golden Heights, and uh the West Bank"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "because it's happening while we sit"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "here. They continue to expand. They are"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "being allowed to do it. President Trump"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "has said they're forbidden from doing"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "it, but they're going to do it anyway."}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "um in a statement now the Ayatollah of"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "Iran has said that the entire Muslim"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "world will resist but that's not"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "actually happening and I'm not sure what"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "the vision is for that to actually"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "happen because again the territorial"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "expansion is happening. Uh this is the"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "holiday of Haj which is the pilgrimage"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "to Mecca. So millions of Muslims are"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "gathered to do this and are celebrating"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "it. And in his statement, he says that"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "Muslim nations will no longer serve as"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "shields for US bases and that the US"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "will no longer have a safe haven for its"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "mischief and for establishing military"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "bases in the region. Uh he says that"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "Israel is a cancerous tumor and an"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "unstable regime nearing the final stages"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "of its cursed life. Now I wonder what he"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "sees that we don't see because they are"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "still taking lives. They are still"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "expanding. uh he called for the entire"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "Muslim world to join a resistance front"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "to the US and Israel and again I what we"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "are observing is that that is not"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "happening. So I'm not sure exactly what"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "this call is for. Um Iran is really the"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "only country mounting in defense."}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "Lebanon and Gaza clearly are unable."}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "Here's a statement from the Lebanese"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "president saying we demand Israel to"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "withdraw. But those are just words. They"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "are not going to and they are not doing"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "it. So I I don't know what this means."}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "It just all we can defer from the truth"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "and leading between the lines of the"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "media headlines that are not telling us"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "the truth is that it's a lot of halaloo"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "while bloodshed continues in and around"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "Israel proper. Now whether or not that"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "bloodshed will continue in Iran outside"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "of Israel's borders, we don't know."}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "Israel saying we need it to keep"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "happening. We do want the bombs to start"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "back up again. Push play on those, but"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "we don't know when. And so the peace"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "deal is currently not holding. Now, just"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "a few minutes ago, President Trump took"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "to his Truth Social to complain about"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "the media. He's saying, \"We're doing"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "great. We're totally winning. It's just"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "that the corrupt media is saying we're"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "losing. Even if Iran were to come out"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "with a white flag, they wouldn't report"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "it. So don't believe the media. They're"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "saying they're winning. So, what do you"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "make of this? Uh, and again, we, you"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "know, Central Command is saying, \"No,"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "we're actually not going through the"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "Straits of Hermuse. That's a media lie."}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "That's not happened. Project Freedom is"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "what they call the uh naval blockade"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "blockade."}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "The double blockade is actually not in"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "place right now. So, it's a holding"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "pattern. Don't let them tell you they're"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "winning. They're not. Uh the only"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "country that's currently winning right"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "now is Israel because they are expanding"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "into Syria and Lebanon and Palestinian"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "occupied territories. So let us know"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "what you think of this. It's it's"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "horrible. It's it's human life that"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "continues to be lost. Civilian life."}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:50", "text": ">> Also, people are asking in the chat"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "room, are we going to talk about this?"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "Which is the flotillaa activists, of"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "course, who were the sister of Ireland's"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "president, Australian news reporter"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "alleging that they were all tortured,"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "sexually abused by the the IDF. And of"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "course, you can see"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "they're grabbing the hair, pulling them"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "down, attacking them. Um, but they're"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "saying that they were sexually tortured"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "and abused by the IDF. Um,"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:20", "text": ">> I mean that has been prefuncterally"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "condemned by European leaders, Canadian"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "leaders, not American leaders, maybe a"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "few um, you know, congressional"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "representatives."}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "But by and large, that is a lot like the"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "attack we showed you on the Russian"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "dorm. It's it's non grata. It's not"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "we're not supposed to feel that."}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:41", "text": ">> Thank you so much for watching Redacted."}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "We'd love for you to subscribe to the"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "channel. It's totally free if you want"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "to follow us or subscribe. And if we"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "brought you any value at all, please"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "consider sharing this video with a"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "friend or a loved one on social media."}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "Thanks so much and we'll see you next"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "time."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "This episode of the Y Files is brought"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "to you by Rocket Money."}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "In 1920, a Harvard scientist put rats in"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "a maze with two exits. One path was well"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "lit but electrified. The other was dark"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "but safe. The rat tried the bright exit."}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "It got shocked. It tried again. It got"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "shocked again and again."}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "It took 165 painful tries, but it"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "finally learned to take the dark path."}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "15 years later and 30 generations later,"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "the rats needed just 20 tries. They were"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "getting smarter."}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "The solution was passed genetically."}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "That's not supposed to happen. A"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "scientist in Scotland tried the same"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "experiment with a completely different"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "set of rats. His rats started at 25"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "tries, as if they already knew the"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "answer to the puzzle. Knowledge had"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "crossed the ocean and no one could"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "explain how."}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:10", "text": ">> We did it."}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:13", "text": ">> Yes, we actually did, didn't we?"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:14", "text": ">> I need $50,000 in your garage."}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:17", "text": ">> No,"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:18", "text": ">> you didn't even ask what it was for."}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:19", "text": ">> What's it for?"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:21", "text": ">> I'm making a documentary."}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:22", "text": ">> Do you remember what happened the last"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "time you tried to make a documentary?"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "Those charges got dropped. Anyway, this"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "one's about me. Working title, Muri"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "Unbowled. Uh, it's a sweeping cinematic"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "portrait of genius, sacrifice, and one"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "fish's relentless pursuit of greatness"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "against impossible odds."}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:44", "text": ">> What impossible odds? You have it better"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "than anyone I know."}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:48", "text": ">> You You're the You're the antagonist."}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "It's nothing personal."}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:52", "text": ">> Who's going to watch this?"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:55", "text": ">> Everyone, it's a cultural event. I've"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "already contacted Sundance Canes and a"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "very respected local festival hosted at"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "an Apple Beach parking lot every August."}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "Oh, so how about that 50 grand?"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:05", "text": ">> Absolutely not. Why don't you use your"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "own money?"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:09", "text": ">> I'm broke."}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:11", "text": ">> You literally just got paid and you make"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "more than me. Where'd it all go?"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:15", "text": ">> The economyy's bad, human. Inflation's"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "up. Interest rates are up. And"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "apparently I'm personally funding 67"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "free trials I forgot to cancel. Look,"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "why don't you just use Rocket Money? It"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "tracks your spending. 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A screenwriting software I use"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "for the title page. Uh, 18 months of"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "artisal popcorn. Uh, and then the one"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "the one I can't say out loud."}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:00", "text": ">> Rocket money can help you cancel all"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "those with just a few clicks."}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:04", "text": ">> So, I'll actually have money again."}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:05", "text": ">> Significantly more. Yes."}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:06", "text": ">> Enough for the documentary?"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:08", "text": ">> Uh, no."}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:10", "text": ">> It's a very personal film. human. It"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "must be made."}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:15", "text": ">> Well, how personal we talking"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:18", "text": ">> now? There's a love scene. I play both"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "parts."}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "Lamarcism or Lamarian inheritance is the"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "idea that an organism can pass on skills"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "it acquired during its lifetime like a"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "rat learning to avoid electric shocks or"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "a human learning how to throw a"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "football. The theory is named for"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "zoologologist Jean Baptiste Lamar who"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "proposed it in 1809 and the theory is"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "supposed to be wrong. Standard biology"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "says that knowledge can't be inherited."}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "Only traits can. Eye color,"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "intelligence, allergies, but not"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "knowledge, not information. Harvard"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "psychologist William McDougall tested"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "this theory in 1920. The setup was"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "simple. Rats and a water maze. 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They had to learn one rule."}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "Avoid the light."}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:43", "text": ">> Cross over, children. Go into the light."}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "There is peace and serenity in the"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "light."}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "Rats should naturally avoid the dark and"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "swim toward the way out that they can"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "see. Any animal would. You would. That's"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "exactly what happened. McDougall's rats"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "swam toward the bright exit, got"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "shocked, swam back, and tried again, and"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "got shocked again. 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It was"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "accelerating."}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "Eight more generations, the average"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "dropped down to 41. Eight more down to"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "29. By generation 30, rats were solving"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "the maze with just 20 tries. What took"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "their ancestors 165 attempts, they"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "mastered in 20. They were eight times"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "faster at learning the same task."}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "McDougall tried to break the pattern. He"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "split his colony and started breeding"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "specifically for slow learners, taking"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "the worst performers from each"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "generation and mating them together."}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "These rats should have stayed slow or"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "gotten worse. But they got faster, too."}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "Same rate of improvement as the randomly"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "bred line. The slowest learners were"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "producing offspring that learned faster"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "than their parents generation after"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "generation. McDougall published his"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "results carefully. No wild claims, no"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "revolutionary declarations, just the"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "data. 30 generations, thousands of rats,"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "every trial documented. He mentioned in"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "his private notes that it looked like"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "Lamar might have been right. Skills"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "could be inherited, but genetics don't"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "work that way. Except here it was"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "happening in his lab. The rats were"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "inheriting something. Not genes, not"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "training. They were inheriting the"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "ability to solve a puzzle their parents"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "had learned through pain and repetition."}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "Whatever was happening, it wasn't"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "genetics. Because not only were skills"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "being transmitted across generations,"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "they were being transmitted across the"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "entire species all over the world."}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "F A Crew was a geneticist at Edinburgh,"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "a pioneer in animal genetics. He thought"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "McDougall was sloppy. So in 1923, he set"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "up his own experiment to prove it. He"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "set up the same water maze, same wister"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "rats, just different genes. But he also"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "added a control group, something"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "McDougall didn't do. He had a trained"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "line of rats and an untrained line."}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:18", "text": ">> Oh yeah, we got a nerd throwdown. In one"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "corner, wearing a tweet jacket and horn"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "rim glasses is the shrink William"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "McDougall aka the social psycho aka"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "Freud rage. And in the other corner,"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "also wearing a tweet jacket and horn rim"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "glasses is the geneticist FAE crew aka"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "the phenotype foe aka Jeans Wilder."}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "Welcome to the Frey in the DNA. Let's"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "get ready to rumble."}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:45", "text": ">> Crew expected his trained rats to master"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "the maze in about 20 tries, and they"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "did. But the untrained rats should have"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "averaged 165 tries. They averaged 25. 30"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "generations, that's what it took"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "McDougall's rats to crack the maze."}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "These rats had no genetic connection to"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "any of those, and they just needed 25"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "tries on day one."}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "We agar, a scientist at the University"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "of Melbourne, ran a similar study for 20"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "years, same result. Trained and"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "untrained, related and unrelated,"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "different labs, different countries, it"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "didn't matter. The knowledge was"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "spreading through the entire species."}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "But it wasn't just rats. For years, milk"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "was left on people's doorsteps, glass"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "bottles with foil caps. And I can't"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "believe I'm old enough to remember this,"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "but I am. In 1920 in Southampton,"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "England, the blue tip birds learned"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "something useful about milk."}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:43", "text": ">> Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on."}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:45", "text": ">> Oh crap."}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:48", "text": ">> Did you just say blue tick birds?"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:49", "text": ">> Yes. Sometimes they're called blue caps,"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "but technically they're"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:54", "text": ">> blue. Can you please stop saying"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "hey? We going to be talking about blue"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "tits and milk for a while."}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:03", "text": ">> We are."}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "Oh, baby. It's Christmas morning and"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "Santa has been good to daddy."}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:11", "text": ">> Here's what the birds"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:14", "text": ">> Here's what they learned about milk."}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "Pierce the foil cap. Drink the cream."}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "This behavior spread all over Britain."}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "By the 1940s, they were all doing it."}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "Every"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "Go ahead."}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:26", "text": ">> Every blue tit was doing it."}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "Hey, hey, hey. Do you have any stories"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "about blue bazas or turquoise tatas?"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:38", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:39", "text": ">> A couple cans, periwinkle peaks,"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "midnight melons?"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:42", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:45", "text": ">> Uh, denim dumplings, sapphire sandbags."}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:45", "text": ">> That's enough."}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "I can't breathe. I can't I can't hear"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "it."}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "You could argue that the birds were"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "watching each other and learning this"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "trick. But then came World War II. All"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "aluminum was needed for aircraft. So no"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "more foil caps. They used wood or"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "cheaper or harder metal. Blue tits"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "couldn't get through. They only live a"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "couple of years. So by the time the war"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "was over, every bird that had ever"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "pierced a cap was dead. The entire"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "generation that knew the trick, they"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "were gone. But when the foil caps came"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "back, blue tits were piercing them"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "again. Birds that had never seen the"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "trick across all of Britain, all at the"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "same time. This wasn't genetics, memory,"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "or observation. This was a skill somehow"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "encoded into the species itself. But"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "this can happen to non-living things,"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "too. Specifically, crystals. When"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "chemists synthesize a new compound,"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "getting it to crystallize for the first"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "time can take months or years. Different"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "temperatures, different solvents,"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "different pressures, the molecules just"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "won't organize. They won't form a"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "pattern until one day they do. And then"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "something strange happens. A compound"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "that resisted crystallization for"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "decades suddenly crystallizes everywhere"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "on Earth."}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "Glycerol was a liquid for centuries. No"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "one could crystallize it. Then in 1867,"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "a barrel crystallized during shipment to"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "Vienna. After that, glycerol"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "crystallized easily everywhere. Xylitol,"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "same story. Decades of failure, then one"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "success, then success everywhere. Rats,"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "birds, crystals. They were passing"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "behaviors to each other all over the"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "world. Something had to be carrying this"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "information. Something we couldn't see,"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "something we didn't understand."}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "But in 1981, a young scientist from"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "Cambridge found a pattern. Not only"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "could species pass information anywhere"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "around the world, they could pass"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "information anywhere through time."}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "In 1973, Rupert Sheldrake sat in his"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "Cambridge lab staring at a bean plant."}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "It was doing something that shouldn't be"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "possible according to everything he knew"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "about biochemistry."}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:28", "text": ">> Hang on, hang on. The guy was called"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "Robert Sheldrake."}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:31", "text": ">> Yes. Why?"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:33", "text": ">> That's the kind of name that's going to"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "cost you a fortune in lunch money."}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:36", "text": ">> Yeah. I don't think there was a lot of"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "bullying going on at Cambridge."}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:40", "text": ">> Now, wake up, human. Wedgies are"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "universal. I bet even Steven Hawking had"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "to eat his own tidy whies from time to"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "time. And he sat on those things all"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "day."}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:51", "text": ">> Anyway, bean plants are like vines. They"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "can't stand on their own. They need a"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "structure to grow around. A wall, a"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "fence, a tree. He was growing plants"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "using pots and small wooden poles for"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "support. Same method every time. The"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "plant sprouts, grows toward the pole,"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "and starts climbing. But this particular"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "bean plant was doing something very"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "strange. It was growing toward a pole"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "that wasn't there yet. It was growing to"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "where the pole would be in the future."}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "Now, Sheldrake was a serious scientist."}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "Cambridge fellowship, Harvard, PhD in"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "biochemistry, director of studies at age"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "31. His research on plant hormones is"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "still in textbooks today. But this beam"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "plant was bothering him. Plants don't"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "have eyes. They don't have nervous"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "systems. The support pole wouldn't be"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "installed for another two days. Yet, the"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "beam was already changing its growth"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "pattern, already preparing to climb"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "something that didn't exist yet. He'd"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "seen this before thousands of times."}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "Every biologist had, they just didn't"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "talk about it. DNA doesn't actually"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "contain the blueprint for what an"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "organism becomes. An acorn has the same"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "DNA in every cell, but those cells grow"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "into roots or leaves, branches. They"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "organize themselves into a tree, and"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "nobody can really explain how they know"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "to do that. Think of DNA like Lego"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "bricks. A Star Wars set and a castle set"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "use exactly the same pieces. The only"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "difference is the final shape. A"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "fruitfly, a banana, even a human being"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "share most of the same DNA, but they"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "develop into completely different"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "organisms. The final shape isn't in the"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "DNA. Something else is guiding the"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "process. One night, walking home along"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "the river cam, Sheldrake had a moment of"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "clarity. Maybe nature has a memory. When"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "any system organizes itself, a crystal"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "forming, a plant growing, an animal"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "learning, it creates what Sheldrick"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "would call a morphic field, a memory in"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "nature, a similar system can resonate"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "with that field and access that memory,"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "meaning a bird learning to pierce the"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "foil, crystals learning to form. And the"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "more that memory is accessed, the"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "stronger it gets. And it influences"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "everything that comes after across space"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "and time. No physical connection"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "required because that memory is now part"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "of nature. All of nature everywhere"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "forever. In 1974, Sheldre moved to India"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "to work at an agricultural institute."}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "That was his day job. He spent his"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "nights at a monastery and for 18 months"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "between prayers and meditation he wrote"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "a book proposing that the universe has"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "memory. He called it a new science of"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "life. He published it in 1981. The most"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "important science journal in the world"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "responded by calling for his book to be"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "burned. The theory of morphic resonance"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "cost Sheldrake his career and a few"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "years later it almost cost him his life."}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "September 1981, John Maddox, editor of"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "Nature, then the most prestigious"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "science journal in the world, wrote an"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "editorial about Shell Drake's book. He"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "called it the best candidate for burning"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "there's been for many years. Nature"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "publishes Nobel laureates Einstein,"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "Watson and Crick, Darwin calling for"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "book burning was unprecedented in modern"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "history of the journal. Maddox compared"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "the book to Hitler's mind comp and its"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "potential for damage. He wasn't calling"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "Sheldrake wrong. He was calling him"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "dangerous. Maddox even said Sheldrake's"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "not a real scientific theorist. It's not"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "even a theory. It's an exercise in"}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "pseudocidence."}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "You see, Sheldri is not a scientific"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "theory. Sheldrich uh is putting forward"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "magic instead of science. And um that"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "can be condemned in exactly the language"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "that the popes used to condemn Galileo."}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "And um uh for the same reasons, it is"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "heresy."}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:23", "text": ">> Professors curious about morphic"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "resonance went silent. Graduate students"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "were warned away. Research funding dried"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "up. But the more the establishment"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "attacked Sheldrake, the more people read"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "his work. The book burning editorial"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "made Sheldrake's book a bestseller. He"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "became the most talked about biologist"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "in Britain overnight. Not for science,"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "but for the attempt to suppress it. But"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "the worst attack on Sheldrake wasn't"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "intellectual. April 2nd, 2008, he was"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "giving a lecture in Santa Fe. A man in"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "the audience rushed the stage with a"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "knife. He stabbed Sheldrake in the leg."}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "Then security tackled him. The attacker"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "told police and a reporter afterward"}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:04", "text": "that Sheldrake was using him as a"}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "subject in telepathic mind control"}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "experiments for 5 years. The wound was"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "serious, but Sheldrake recovered. And"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "days later, still using a walker, he"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:19", "text": "gave a talk titled science and hope. In"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:22", "text": "March 2013, Sheldrake gave a TEDex talk"}, {"start": "00:20:19", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "called the science delusion. He"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "challenged what he called the 10 dogmas"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "of modern science. That nature is"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "mechanical, that matter is unconscious,"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "and that mind is nothing but brain"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:35", "text": "activity. That kind of stuff. Well, Ted"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "removed the talk from their YouTube"}, {"start": "00:20:35", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "channel. Bloggers campaigned against it."}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "TED consulted what they called a science"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "board, but they never told us who was on"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "it. The talk was about scientific"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "dogmatism. The response was dogmatic"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "censorship. But the attempts to silent"}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "Sheldrake kept backfiring. The banned"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "Ted Talk got millions of views on other"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "channels. The stabbing made"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "international news. Every attack made"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "more people ask, \"What are they so"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:09", "text": "afraid of?\""}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "Then a British TV broadcaster had an"}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "idea. They would test morphic resonance"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "on the largest scale ever attempted. So"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "now there were 2 million people about to"}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "test this theory on live TV."}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "In 1984, British television ran an"}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "experiment. They showed viewers a"}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "puzzle. One of those hidden pictures"}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "where you stare at random dots until an"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:45", "text": "image appears. About 2 million people"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "watched. Then researchers tested people"}, {"start": "00:21:45", "end": "00:21:49", "text": "who hadn't seen the broadcast. Some were"}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "in different cities. Some were in"}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "different countries. They solved that"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "specific puzzle faster than a control"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "group tested before the broadcast. And"}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "not a little faster, much faster. Those"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "2 million people who watched the show"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "gave nature a new memory, a solution to"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "that puzzle. Sheldrake said this could"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:14", "text": "apply to crossword puzzles. He said"}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "crosswords should get easier to solve as"}, {"start": "00:22:14", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "the day goes on. As more and more people"}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "solve the puzzle, they're creating and"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "reinforcing a morphic memory. That new"}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "memory makes the puzzle easier for"}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "everyone trying the puzzle for the first"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:28", "text": "time."}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:29", "text": ">> Oh, maybe that's why I'm so naturally"}, {"start": "00:22:28", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "great with women, huh?"}, {"start": "00:22:29", "end": "00:22:32", "text": ">> I don't even know."}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:34", "text": ">> Mariotti men historically put up numbers"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "that would make a Wilt Chamberlain"}, {"start": "00:22:34", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "jealous."}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:40", "text": ">> Okay, gross. Thanks. Thanks."}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "Great interjection."}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:44", "text": "Some newspapers tested the puzzle"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "theory. The London Evening Standard"}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "found their puzzles were solved 20%"}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "faster in the evening after thousands of"}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:54", "text": "people spent the day solving them. Then"}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:58", "text": "there's the Flint effect. Since the"}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:23:01", "text": "1920s, IQ scores have risen worldwide by"}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:03", "text": "about three points per decade. Every"}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:07", "text": "generation scores higher than the last"}, {"start": "00:23:03", "end": "00:23:09", "text": "on the exact same tests. Experts credit"}, {"start": "00:23:07", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "better nutrition, better education,"}, {"start": "00:23:09", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "better test taking skills, but the gains"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:16", "text": "show up even in pattern recognition"}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:19", "text": "tests that don't rely on education at"}, {"start": "00:23:16", "end": "00:23:22", "text": "all. Morphic resonance says as more"}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:26", "text": "humans master cognitive tasks, those"}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "tasks become easier for everyone."}, {"start": "00:23:26", "end": "00:23:30", "text": "Sheldrake's most famous research"}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:32", "text": "involves dogs. He documented over 200"}, {"start": "00:23:30", "end": "00:23:35", "text": "cases of dogs that go to the door or"}, {"start": "00:23:32", "end": "00:23:38", "text": "window when their owners decide to come"}, {"start": "00:23:35", "end": "00:23:41", "text": "home. Not when they come home, when they"}, {"start": "00:23:38", "end": "00:23:45", "text": "decide to. Owners came home at random"}, {"start": "00:23:41", "end": "00:23:48", "text": "times in unfamiliar vehicles. The dogs"}, {"start": "00:23:45", "end": "00:23:51", "text": "still knew. One dog, a terrier named JT,"}, {"start": "00:23:48", "end": "00:23:54", "text": "was tested over a 100 times. Within 10"}, {"start": "00:23:51", "end": "00:23:57", "text": "seconds of his owner leaving work, JT"}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "went to the window 85% of the time. The"}, {"start": "00:23:57", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "owner was 4 miles away. Then there's the"}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:06", "text": "sense of being stared at. Sheldrake ran"}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:09", "text": "25,000 trials. Subjects guessed whether"}, {"start": "00:24:06", "end": "00:24:12", "text": "someone was looking at them from behind."}, {"start": "00:24:09", "end": "00:24:16", "text": "They guessed right 55% of the time."}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:18", "text": "Should be 50%. Now 5% might not seem"}, {"start": "00:24:16", "end": "00:24:21", "text": "like much, but with that huge sample"}, {"start": "00:24:18", "end": "00:24:23", "text": "size, it's significant. We've all had"}, {"start": "00:24:21", "end": "00:24:26", "text": "that feeling where we know someone's"}, {"start": "00:24:23", "end": "00:24:29", "text": "looking at us. The book Life Tide"}, {"start": "00:24:26", "end": "00:24:31", "text": "released in 1979 is about monkeys on"}, {"start": "00:24:29", "end": "00:24:33", "text": "Kushima Island. One learned to wash"}, {"start": "00:24:31", "end": "00:24:36", "text": "sweet potatoes in the ocean. Other"}, {"start": "00:24:33", "end": "00:24:39", "text": "monkeys goer. Once 100 monkeys learned"}, {"start": "00:24:36", "end": "00:24:42", "text": "the trick, monkeys on other islands"}, {"start": "00:24:39", "end": "00:24:45", "text": "started washing potatoes, too. Just like"}, {"start": "00:24:42", "end": "00:24:48", "text": "McDougall's rats, knowledge had jumped"}, {"start": "00:24:45", "end": "00:24:48", "text": "across the ocean."}, {"start": "00:25:00", "end": "00:25:04", "text": "We've got rats and monkeys teaching each"}, {"start": "00:25:02", "end": "00:25:06", "text": "other on different islands. Dogs and"}, {"start": "00:25:04", "end": "00:25:08", "text": "plants that can predict the future."}, {"start": "00:25:06", "end": "00:25:09", "text": "People solving puzzles faster as the day"}, {"start": "00:25:08", "end": "00:25:10", "text": "goes on."}, {"start": "00:25:09", "end": "00:25:11", "text": ">> Just like blue tits and milk."}, {"start": "00:25:10", "end": "00:25:13", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:25:11", "end": "00:25:15", "text": ">> Hey. Hey. Didn't Luke Skywalker drink"}, {"start": "00:25:13", "end": "00:25:16", "text": "that stuff in The Last Jedi?"}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:17", "text": ">> I don't know what you're talking about."}, {"start": "00:25:16", "end": "00:25:19", "text": "I never heard of that movie."}, {"start": "00:25:17", "end": "00:25:22", "text": ">> Fair enough."}, {"start": "00:25:19", "end": "00:25:24", "text": "I love the concept of morphic resonance,"}, {"start": "00:25:22", "end": "00:25:27", "text": "but is it true? Well, let's start with"}, {"start": "00:25:24", "end": "00:25:29", "text": "the bad news. That famous monkey story"}, {"start": "00:25:27", "end": "00:25:31", "text": "that's completely made up. Li Watson"}, {"start": "00:25:29", "end": "00:25:33", "text": "took real observations from"}, {"start": "00:25:31", "end": "00:25:36", "text": "primatologists and added a little"}, {"start": "00:25:33", "end": "00:25:38", "text": "fiction for fun. The crystal formations"}, {"start": "00:25:36", "end": "00:25:41", "text": "have a conventional explanation, too."}, {"start": "00:25:38", "end": "00:25:43", "text": "When scientists first synthesize a new"}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:46", "text": "compound, it resists crystallization."}, {"start": "00:25:43", "end": "00:25:48", "text": "After one lab succeeds, others find it"}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:52", "text": "easier. Shell Drake says it's morphic"}, {"start": "00:25:48", "end": "00:25:54", "text": "fields. Chemists say it's seed crystals,"}, {"start": "00:25:52", "end": "00:25:57", "text": "microscopic traces on clothing, in"}, {"start": "00:25:54", "end": "00:25:59", "text": "beards, on shared equipment that ship"}, {"start": "00:25:57", "end": "00:26:02", "text": "between labs. And once the crystals"}, {"start": "00:25:59", "end": "00:26:05", "text": "exist anywhere, they exist everywhere."}, {"start": "00:26:02", "end": "00:26:07", "text": "No mysterious fields required. That one"}, {"start": "00:26:05", "end": "00:26:09", "text": "is a stretch for me, but that's the"}, {"start": "00:26:07", "end": "00:26:12", "text": "official scientific view. Now, the"}, {"start": "00:26:09", "end": "00:26:14", "text": "crossword puzzles and TV experiments are"}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:16", "text": "interesting, but the effects are small"}, {"start": "00:26:14", "end": "00:26:19", "text": "and the methods are contested. So they"}, {"start": "00:26:16", "end": "00:26:22", "text": "can go either way. It's not the smoking"}, {"start": "00:26:19", "end": "00:26:25", "text": "gun that Shell Drake needs. But then"}, {"start": "00:26:22", "end": "00:26:27", "text": "there are the rats. McDougall's data is"}, {"start": "00:26:25", "end": "00:26:29", "text": "real. Crew replicated it. Agar"}, {"start": "00:26:27", "end": "00:26:32", "text": "replicated it on a separate continent."}, {"start": "00:26:29", "end": "00:26:35", "text": "Rats got smarter across generations with"}, {"start": "00:26:32", "end": "00:26:38", "text": "no physical contact. Now critics explain"}, {"start": "00:26:35", "end": "00:26:40", "text": "it like this. Early generations of rats"}, {"start": "00:26:38", "end": "00:26:42", "text": "were stressed by inexperienced"}, {"start": "00:26:40", "end": "00:26:44", "text": "researchers who didn't handle them"}, {"start": "00:26:42", "end": "00:26:46", "text": "properly. So, as the researchers got"}, {"start": "00:26:44", "end": "00:26:48", "text": "better at handling them, the rats did"}, {"start": "00:26:46", "end": "00:26:50", "text": "better on the test. Now, I think the"}, {"start": "00:26:48", "end": "00:26:53", "text": "skeptics lose that one, especially when"}, {"start": "00:26:50", "end": "00:26:56", "text": "we consider something discovered decades"}, {"start": "00:26:53", "end": "00:26:59", "text": "after McDougall died. Epigenetics. This"}, {"start": "00:26:56", "end": "00:27:03", "text": "shows acquired traits can chemically tag"}, {"start": "00:26:59", "end": "00:27:06", "text": "DNA and pass information to offspring."}, {"start": "00:27:03", "end": "00:27:08", "text": "So, the effect might be real. The cause,"}, {"start": "00:27:06", "end": "00:27:10", "text": "we still don't know. The dogs"}, {"start": "00:27:08", "end": "00:27:13", "text": "anticipating their owners coming home is"}, {"start": "00:27:10", "end": "00:27:15", "text": "Shell Drake's strongest published work."}, {"start": "00:27:13", "end": "00:27:17", "text": "Critics have found methodological"}, {"start": "00:27:15", "end": "00:27:19", "text": "problems, but defenders have replicated"}, {"start": "00:27:17", "end": "00:27:21", "text": "the results. That one is still being"}, {"start": "00:27:19", "end": "00:27:23", "text": "debated, and every dog owner has"}, {"start": "00:27:21", "end": "00:27:26", "text": "thoughts. Now, here's the core problem"}, {"start": "00:27:23", "end": "00:27:29", "text": "that skeptics use. Morphic resonance"}, {"start": "00:27:26", "end": "00:27:31", "text": "requires information transfer with no"}, {"start": "00:27:29", "end": "00:27:34", "text": "energy cost, and that violates the law"}, {"start": "00:27:31", "end": "00:27:38", "text": "of conservation of energy. Physics has"}, {"start": "00:27:34", "end": "00:27:42", "text": "rules, but not all physics, not quantum"}, {"start": "00:27:38", "end": "00:27:45", "text": "physics. Two particles separated by any"}, {"start": "00:27:42", "end": "00:27:47", "text": "distance, a room, a galaxy, it doesn't"}, {"start": "00:27:45", "end": "00:27:49", "text": "matter. They respond to each other"}, {"start": "00:27:47", "end": "00:27:52", "text": "instantly. This was confirmed in the"}, {"start": "00:27:49", "end": "00:27:54", "text": "1980s. That's an instant transfer of"}, {"start": "00:27:52", "end": "00:27:57", "text": "information that ignores the law of"}, {"start": "00:27:54", "end": "00:27:59", "text": "conservation of energy and ignores the"}, {"start": "00:27:57", "end": "00:28:01", "text": "speed of light. And nobody knows how"}, {"start": "00:27:59", "end": "00:28:04", "text": "this works."}, {"start": "00:28:01", "end": "00:28:06", "text": "In the 1930s, Carl Young proposed a"}, {"start": "00:28:04", "end": "00:28:09", "text": "collective unconscious, a shared"}, {"start": "00:28:06", "end": "00:28:12", "text": "reservoir of human experience running"}, {"start": "00:28:09", "end": "00:28:14", "text": "beneath individual awareness. Physicist"}, {"start": "00:28:12", "end": "00:28:16", "text": "David Bow said all points in space are"}, {"start": "00:28:14", "end": "00:28:18", "text": "fundamentally connected. Irwin"}, {"start": "00:28:16", "end": "00:28:20", "text": "Schroinger, one of the architects of"}, {"start": "00:28:18", "end": "00:28:22", "text": "quantum mechanics and famous for the"}, {"start": "00:28:20", "end": "00:28:24", "text": "cat, argued that individual"}, {"start": "00:28:22", "end": "00:28:27", "text": "consciousness is just an illusion, that"}, {"start": "00:28:24", "end": "00:28:30", "text": "there's only one mind. Max Planck,"}, {"start": "00:28:27", "end": "00:28:32", "text": "Nicola Tesla, Albert Einstein all"}, {"start": "00:28:30", "end": "00:28:34", "text": "arrived at the same place from"}, {"start": "00:28:32", "end": "00:28:36", "text": "completely different directions. Some"}, {"start": "00:28:34", "end": "00:28:38", "text": "through mathematics, some through"}, {"start": "00:28:36", "end": "00:28:41", "text": "watching rats learn mazes, some through"}, {"start": "00:28:38", "end": "00:28:43", "text": "quantum theory itself. All of them"}, {"start": "00:28:41", "end": "00:28:45", "text": "looked at the universe and landed on the"}, {"start": "00:28:43", "end": "00:28:48", "text": "same word, connected."}, {"start": "00:28:45", "end": "00:28:50", "text": "Maybe the laws of nature are fixed,"}, {"start": "00:28:48", "end": "00:28:52", "text": "written into the fabric of reality"}, {"start": "00:28:50", "end": "00:28:55", "text": "before the first star formed."}, {"start": "00:28:52", "end": "00:28:58", "text": "Or maybe the universe creates memories"}, {"start": "00:28:55", "end": "00:29:00", "text": "that strengthen through repetition,"}, {"start": "00:28:58", "end": "00:29:03", "text": "always evolving. We can't prove it"}, {"start": "00:29:00", "end": "00:29:06", "text": "either way. But there is one scientific"}, {"start": "00:29:03", "end": "00:29:09", "text": "fact that nobody can deny. A long time"}, {"start": "00:29:06", "end": "00:29:11", "text": "ago, every atom in your body was"}, {"start": "00:29:09", "end": "00:29:13", "text": "connected to every other atom in every"}, {"start": "00:29:11", "end": "00:29:16", "text": "other person on Earth. Every atom in"}, {"start": "00:29:13", "end": "00:29:18", "text": "your body was connected to every atom in"}, {"start": "00:29:16", "end": "00:29:21", "text": "every animal, every plant, every rock,"}, {"start": "00:29:18", "end": "00:29:24", "text": "and every planet in the universe."}, {"start": "00:29:21", "end": "00:29:26", "text": "And if the smallest things in existence"}, {"start": "00:29:24", "end": "00:29:29", "text": "stay connected to each other across any"}, {"start": "00:29:26", "end": "00:29:31", "text": "distance, then acting like the people"}, {"start": "00:29:29", "end": "00:29:33", "text": "around you are separate from you isn't"}, {"start": "00:29:31", "end": "00:29:36", "text": "just unkind,"}, {"start": "00:29:33", "end": "00:29:36", "text": "it's unscientific."}, {"start": "00:29:46", "end": "00:29:52", "text": ">> Thank you so much for hanging out today."}, {"start": "00:29:48", "end": "00:29:52", "text": "My name is AJ. 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The code is there to save you"}, {"start": "00:33:36", "end": "00:33:41", "text": "money, not make me money. In fact, all"}, {"start": "00:33:38", "end": "00:33:42", "text": "that revenue goes to the team. I don't"}, {"start": "00:33:41", "end": "00:33:44", "text": "touch it. So, thank you for that."}, {"start": "00:33:42", "end": "00:33:46", "text": ">> Yeah. Keep that secret close to your"}, {"start": "00:33:44", "end": "00:33:47", "text": "blue tits, would you?"}, {"start": "00:33:46", "end": "00:33:49", "text": ">> Those are the plugs. And that's going to"}, {"start": "00:33:47", "end": "00:33:55", "text": "do it. Until next time, be safe, be"}, {"start": "00:33:49", "end": "00:33:55", "text": "kind, and know that you are appreciated."}, {"start": "00:34:05", "end": "00:34:09", "text": "Oh"}, {"start": "00:34:07", "end": "00:34:14", "text": "yeah,"}, {"start": "00:34:09", "end": "00:34:19", "text": "I play in Area 51. A secret code inside"}, {"start": "00:34:14", "end": "00:34:22", "text": "the Bible said I would."}, {"start": "00:34:19", "end": "00:34:26", "text": "I love my UFOs and paranormal fun as"}, {"start": "00:34:22", "end": "00:34:28", "text": "well as music. So I'm singing the like I"}, {"start": "00:34:26", "end": "00:34:31", "text": "should"}, {"start": "00:34:28", "end": "00:34:34", "text": "then another conspiracy theory becomes"}, {"start": "00:34:31", "end": "00:34:36", "text": "the truth my friends"}, {"start": "00:34:34", "end": "00:34:40", "text": "and it never ends."}, {"start": "00:34:36", "end": "00:34:40", "text": "No it never ends."}, {"start": "00:34:47", "end": "00:34:53", "text": "I feel the crap guy I got stuck inside"}, {"start": "00:34:50", "end": "00:34:56", "text": "Mel's home with MK outra. I feel only"}, {"start": "00:34:53", "end": "00:34:56", "text": "twoear."}, {"start": "00:34:56", "end": "00:35:02", "text": "Did Stanley Cubrick fake the moon"}, {"start": "00:34:58", "end": "00:35:06", "text": "landing alone on a film set? I would"}, {"start": "00:35:02", "end": "00:35:09", "text": "shadow people there."}, {"start": "00:35:06", "end": "00:35:14", "text": "The wellness just fought the smiling"}, {"start": "00:35:09", "end": "00:35:18", "text": "man. I'm told and his name was cold. And"}, {"start": "00:35:14", "end": "00:35:23", "text": "I can't agree. I'm dancing with the fish"}, {"start": "00:35:18", "end": "00:35:27", "text": "and the fish on Thursday night when they"}, {"start": "00:35:23", "end": "00:35:27", "text": "all through the night."}, {"start": "00:35:28", "end": "00:35:33", "text": "All I ever wanted was to be the truth."}, {"start": "00:35:31", "end": "00:35:36", "text": "The world"}, {"start": "00:35:33", "end": "00:35:36", "text": "through the night"}, {"start": "00:35:53", "end": "00:36:00", "text": "the m sidings and the solar storm still"}, {"start": "00:35:56", "end": "00:36:02", "text": "come to the secret city underground."}, {"start": "00:36:00", "end": "00:36:04", "text": "ground."}, {"start": "00:36:02", "end": "00:36:08", "text": "Mysterious number stations, planet"}, {"start": "00:36:04", "end": "00:36:12", "text": "circle to project star gave where the"}, {"start": "00:36:08", "end": "00:36:16", "text": "dark watchers found"}, {"start": "00:36:12", "end": "00:36:20", "text": "in a simulation. Don't you worry though"}, {"start": "00:36:16", "end": "00:36:25", "text": "with the black night over so I can't"}, {"start": "00:36:20", "end": "00:36:27", "text": "believe I'm dancing with the fish"}, {"start": "00:36:25", "end": "00:36:33", "text": "on Thursday nights when they change you"}, {"start": "00:36:27", "end": "00:36:33", "text": "and my family all through the night."}, {"start": "00:36:34", "end": "00:36:42", "text": "All I ever wanted was to hear the truth"}, {"start": "00:36:39", "end": "00:36:42", "text": "all through the night."}, {"start": "00:36:44", "end": "00:36:50", "text": "on Thursday. That's when they change"}, {"start": "00:36:46", "end": "00:36:50", "text": "you. And my life"}, {"start": "00:36:53", "end": "00:36:58", "text": "I ever wanted was to hear the truth. So"}, {"start": "00:36:56", "end": "00:37:01", "text": "my"}, {"start": "00:36:58", "end": "00:37:01", "text": "go"}, {"start": "00:37:13", "end": "00:37:18", "text": "loves to dance."}, {"start": "00:37:16", "end": "00:37:22", "text": "Your girl loves to dance on the dance"}, {"start": "00:37:18", "end": "00:37:28", "text": "floor because she is a camel. Camels"}, {"start": "00:37:22", "end": "00:37:28", "text": "love to dance when the feeling is right."}]

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[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "Today I'm talking with Luke Caverns, an"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "anthropologist and explorer who's"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "flagged over 100 archaeological sites"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "that aren't on any map. He's planning"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "the largest lidar scan of the Amazon"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "ever attempted. Oh, what is he trying to"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "see, Jeff Bezos naked? Not that Amazon,"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "the Amazon jungle. That makes more"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "sense. Lidar fires laser pulses from"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "aircraft through the jungle canopy and"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "maps what's buried underneath. And over"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "the last few years, it's been revealing"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "megacities and ancient highways, a"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "civilization buried under the Amazon"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "that nobody knew was there. Today we're"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "covering that, the Minoans of Crete as"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "Plato's Atlantis, and the Olmecs and"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "their jaguar priest cult."}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:44", "text": ">> Yeah, cult based on cats, hot piss. He"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "also has a theory about what happened to"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "Alexander the Great's body that I hadn't"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "heard before. It's pretty interesting."}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "As always, after the episode, I'll come"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "back in and do a breakdown of what we"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "covered, what I can't prove, and what I"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "can. Until then, let's go down to the"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "basement."}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "Luke, welcome to the basement. Hey, man."}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "Thanks so much for having me here. This"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "is amazing. I'm so excited. I've got a"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "whole so much to talk to you about."}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "We're going to go all over the ancient"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "world."}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "I'm not a professional. It's chaos."}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "Just bear with me."}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:20", "text": ">> right. Um"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "So,"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "I just want [snorts] to start with of"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "all the sites that you've looked at,"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "what was the what was the one where the"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "one that sticks with you that goes that"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "makes you go that"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "is not natural. That's man-made. Do you"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "have one favorite?"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "One that's um"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "Now, you mean as far as like like a"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "natural formation that I think looks"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "man-made? Yes, or something that you saw"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "on lidar that maybe someone else didn't"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "see and you were like, \"No, no, no, no,"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "that's someone made that.\""}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:53", "text": ">> Yeah, absolutely. Um well, you know,"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "there's um I'm I'm running a project"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "right now that I"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "I guess I'm announcing it right here for"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "the first time."}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "Uh I don't have a name for the project I"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "but it's a it's a lidar project that I"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "have been working on for about 3 years"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "now across the southeastern US and now"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "it just expanded to the Amazon which is"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "crazy."}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "so"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "I was given access a few years ago"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "to a lidar data set that a team put"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "together when they were trying to map"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "common impacts across the the United"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "States and anybody can get access to"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "lidar of the US that the difficulty"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "there is"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "having a like a map that's been"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "processed and the information has been"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "condensed otherwise your computer will"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "just shut down it's crazy. Why are just"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "like giant raw images?"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:47", "text": ">> Yeah, yeah, you know it's some it could"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "be like"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "hundreds of gigs of of data it'll just"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "shut down your your computer so it has"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "to be processed by a by a professional"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:03:00", "text": ">> who who really knows what they're doing."}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "And so I was just lucky to be given um"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "that sort of data set. And so"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "what they realized was while they were"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "looking for these common impacts they"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "were finding mound sites."}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "And they weren't anthropologists didn't"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "know anything about ancient history but"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "they're like oh you know Luke I was"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "friends with one of them his name's"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "Chris."}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "he he sent it over to me and so I"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "started searching through it and and"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "there was a lot that I had to teach"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "myself about"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "um analyzing lidar and having to figure"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "out what's natural and what's not or"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "what's modern and what's ancient that's"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "that can be a big thing. A lot of false"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "positives with like flood zones and"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:40", "text": ">> And and with dredging so they'll try to"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "clear up the sides of rivers and they'll"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "make what looks like just hundreds of"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "mounds strung together over time you you"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "start to realize like oh okay you know"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "these things are too sharp there's so"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "many of them together you know."}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "So you learn how to process all that"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "all that image data and all in all I've"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "I've mapped at least like 82"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "archaeological sites"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "in the United States. Probably a lot of"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "them probably so many of them are on"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "private property"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "that are not officially documented in"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "books or papers that I could find or"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "maps that I could find. Now that said"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "you know there's probably some there may"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "be some obscure papers out there that"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "are aware of some of these whatever"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "they're not pop popularly known."}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "Some of them are massive man. I've"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "mapped sites that are way out in the"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "forest in Alabama, Louisiana, Arkansas."}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "That's not just"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "single structures that are"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "250 yards long."}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:39", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:41", "text": ">> Yeah, 250 yards long by 100 yards wide"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "and there's probably five or six of the"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "structures all together. Some of them"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "have"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "For anybody listening you can look up"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "something called the Hopewell Road which"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "look like these highways. Huge, right?"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:54", "text": ">> Yeah, huge and"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "and I found structures that have those"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "in them and I have a I have a friend who"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "he's about my age and he's"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "more of like an open-minded"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "archaeologist"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "and and more accepting to I guess like"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "outlaw archaeology which is kind of what"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "I do."}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "You know now I'm working with"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "my team at Basecamp. They are providing"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "me going to be providing me and we've"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "already scanned like some sites near"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "Moundville. We discovered an ancient"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "site near Moundville on private property"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "just amazing stuff. And"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "so I'm working with them now but um"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "essentially what we do is"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "all these sites that I have"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "mapped using USGS and charted"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "you know that's probably that resolution"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "is very very low and these guys can go"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "out there and scan something that's so"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "precise that it's down to like a golf"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "ball in resolution and then they can"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "build 3D models of of the ancient city."}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "Is that with satellite lidar? Or is that"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "with on the"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:55", "text": ">> No, no, no, it's their lidar. It's it's"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "They They have these lidar drones."}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "They've got like a full-on bus. They"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "brought it to my house a few weeks ago."}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "It's cool. So, uh I haven't announced"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "this at all. This is the first time I'm"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "talking about this. I've been working on"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "this for a long time. But essentially"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "what it what we're going to do is"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "rebuild the Mound Builder world. And uh"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "like all these cities that people aren't"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "aware of,"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "I find it using USGS lidar. Then either"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "they go out there or if I can go with"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "them, I go with them. And we send a"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "drone up, map it. You know, it doesn't"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "matter what property it's on cuz it's"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "legal to map things with your drones. Um"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "and then we can reconstruct the ancient"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "city down to like a golf ball size"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "resolution. And so I can have this huge"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "uh 3D model of the city and then I can"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "virtually rebuild it using AI. Now, you"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "have to get very particular and you have"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "to make sure it's historically accurate"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "according to the sources, but"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "we're going to start visually rebuilding"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "the Mound the Mound Builder world. And"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "we're going to do this with dozens of"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "sites. And Well, the Mound Builder"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "world, that spans thousands of years."}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "Are you targeting"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:58", "text": ">> Thousands of years. No, not targeting"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "any one thing in particular."}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:01", "text": ">> Just mounds? Mhm. Yeah, yeah, we're not"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "targeting like like we were talking a"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "minute ago, we're not targeting Adena or"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "Hopewell or, you know, the"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "Moundville sites or anything like that."}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "It's just the sites that I have found"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "and mapped. And so each one of them will"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "have to be researched within the context"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "of that of that uh site. So, yeah, so"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "that's that's what we're working on now."}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "And then we've got another lidar project"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "that we're trying to get the permission"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "for eventually, which is going to be in"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "American Samoa. Uh the Polynesian world"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "is so untouched and lidar can completely"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "change that. Um"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "and then we are"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "I'm I'm working with the Terra Incognita"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "Research Institute."}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "It's a group that's put together by"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "couple of couple of archaeologists and"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "um they are uh"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "you know, it's it's sort of like"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "independent archaeology, you know, but"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "these guys are are credentialed and very"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "very well credentialed like full on, you"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "know, very professional academics and um"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "they're working on a on a project in the"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "Amazon and uh I can't say too much about"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "this yet, but uh"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "if we can complete this project and we"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "can get the permits"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "myself I'm going to go down and document"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "it and essentially publish publicize it."}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "The Basecamp team will be the one who"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "scans everything using their lidar"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "technology and then Terra Incognita"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "Research Institute, they're the ones who"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "will actually go out to the site,"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "process the data. They're they're"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "they're the guys who get all the"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "permissions and everything."}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "It'll be the largest lidar scan that's"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "ever been done in the Amazon. I can't"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "wait for that. Yeah, ever been done."}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "Ever been done? Mhm. And and we put"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "together a uh"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "I I don't know how much I can get into"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "this, but uh we're putting together a"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "proposal"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "of just"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "it's at least it's it's myself and"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "Basecamp. We've just played around with"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "this idea, but"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "of what it would cost to get the entire"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "Amazon lidar and how long it would take."}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:59", "text": ">> Wow. Yeah, yeah. And they can they can"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "do it if if if if we can get the funding"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "to do it, it could be done. And so we're"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "just putting that together just to throw"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "it out there to give people it won't"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "actually happen probably, but just to"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "give people an idea that it is possible"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "and you know, how much would it take for"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "that to be possible. But if this goes"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "through with Terra Incognita Research"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "Institute"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "and Basecamp and myself, it'll be the"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "largest lidar scan ever done in the"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "Amazon. I can't wait for that. Um"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "you come from a long line of treasure"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "hunters"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "cattle rustlers outlaws. When did you"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "realize that you were carrying on the"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "family tradition in a method using"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "methodology?"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:35", "text": ">> [snorts]"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:36", "text": ">> Not so much a pirate, you're actually a"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "scientist."}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:39", "text": ">> No, no, yeah, yeah, I'm not stealing"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "anything anymore, but uh"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:41", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:42", "text": ">> Um"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:43", "text": ">> I first heard you talking about cattle"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "rustling, I'm like, \"Does he know that"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "means stealing?\""}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "Yeah, they they were they were uh they"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "did a You know, some of those guys did a"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "little bit of both, right? Like you"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "would your day job would be cattle"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "driving, your night job would be cattle"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "rustling, you know? So, there I got and"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "and and treasure hunting, which actually"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "means looting and all that good stuff."}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:05", "text": ">> Yep. Um"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "You know, so it all it started"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "uh my love for anthropology began when"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "um"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "actually listening to my other grandpa,"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "my my my uh my mom's dad, he was a"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "pastor and a missionary, and he loved"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "the ancient world. And I would be, you"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "know, they would drag me to their like"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "down-home East Texas little church, and"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "I'd listen to my grandpa"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "uh preach."}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "And they would have these old Bibles."}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "And at the front and the back of the"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "Bibles would be these watercolor"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "paintings of like, you know, the some"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "ancient Mesopotamian city. Sometimes it"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "would be Egypt or something like that."}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "And there might be a little map there,"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "and it's all kind of watercolored and"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "very sort of romantic-looking. And"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "during the whole time that I would"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "listen to the sermon,"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "still to this day my favorite thing if I"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "listen to a sermon is is when they"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "actually talk about the ancient biblical"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "world, and you get to sort of hear what"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "that would have been like. 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And"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "over over time, I"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "began becoming dissatisfied with the way"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "a lot of sermons would be told, not my"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "grandfather, but like, you know, going"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "to church with my parents or something."}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "And I would be like, \"Well, you know, I"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "wish that they would actually tell us"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "more about what was life like for those"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "guys?\" What were they telling you that"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "you were uncomfortable with? Just just"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "the reality."}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:38", "text": ">> know, it yeah, a lot of sermons in"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "church into becoming like a a"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "motivational speech about like, you"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "know, let me let me take this one verse"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "and extrapolate it on a way and pull it"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "totally out of its ancient context to"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "make it relevant to you. It's like, you"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "know, the Bible's a masterfully written"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "and put together book. You can actually"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "just tell me that story and I will be"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "able to get the meaning out of it. Yes,"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "you will."}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:02", "text": ">> or if they wanted to be more profound,"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "educate the people that are in the"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "church on the context of the ancient"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "world"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "in the world that those people are"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "living in and teach us the Bible in the"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "way that they would have understood it"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "cuz that'll be much more profound than"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "you trying to extrapolate this one verse"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "and make it fit to me. You know, I"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "I don't care about about all that and it"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "never resonated with me. And so I"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "remember I talked to my parents and be"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "like, yeah, but you know, what was that"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "like? What was that like? And that was"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "And that was"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "the beginning of me being an"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "anthropologist, wanting to know"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "what is that life like?"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:35", "text": ">> Just day-to-day life. Being an ancient"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "person. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What are the"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "struggles that you live with? Cuz I I I"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "remember saying I had this what I"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "thought was a profound thought when I"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "was like a teenager and I was like I was"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "like, you know, the Bible's actually"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "like a horror story."}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "All those people's lives were awful. You"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "know, no nobody, you know, it's like"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "I guess"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:53", "text": ">> Old Testament for sure. Yeah, yeah,"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "yeah. Well, and and I mean you look at"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "the the disciples, the things that they"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "went through, the way that they all"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "ended up, the struggles that they had."}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "They're all impoverished. It's a that's"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "a really hard life."}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "But that gets glossed over, you know,"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "with the with the modern church and"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "everything. And so it was me really"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "trying to dig into the ancient world and"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "get a sense of what that was like. And"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "once that started happening, I started"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "realizing, well, wait, my whole"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "perception, the way that I'm being"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "taught about this isn't"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "isn't reflective of the ancient world."}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "And so that was when my love for"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "wanting to know what the ancient world"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "was really like came from."}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "The idea of wanting to be an explorer"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "along with that cuz that could just go"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "into being an archaeologist or an"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "anthropologist or a historian, you know."}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "And so it was that coupled with my dad's"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "side of the family"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "going back to the 1890s, those guys are"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "are cattle cattle drivers. They were"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "they were um"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "you know the Parkers that are running"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "cattle up and down. So so they would"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "take cattle to the Parkers in San"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "Antonio. And so it's like West Texas to"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "San Antonio. That's where they were"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "operating."}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "And um"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "you know, hearing [clears throat] their"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "stories of of the search for"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "uh the the gold of of these lost mines"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "of Reagan Canyon and and um"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "this huge debacle that happens when"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "they're trying to find that gold and so"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "many of the Reagan brothers die and"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "Well, tell us that story real fast. What"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "do you mean? I love a debacle."}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:21", "text": ">> so many um"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "there's not a lot that's known about"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "that, but this is a sort of a sort of a"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "synopsis. And a lot of it like I If you"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "go to especially here in the Southwest,"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "like if you go to a used bookstore and"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "you find a book called The Sons of"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "Coronado or lost lost Spanish treasure"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "or something like that, there will be a"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "chapter in there about my family. And um"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "so the Reagan family. Yeah, yeah. And so"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "essentially what happens is um"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "so they own these big ranches that are"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "on these plateaus above Reagan in and"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "around Reagan Canyon. And Reagan Canyon"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "back in the 1500s was one of the places"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "where the Spaniards would come through"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "as they're um you know, exploring the"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "American Southwest and in in the 1600s"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "as well."}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "And there would be bandits that would"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "sit up in Well, I guess all the way up"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "to the 1800s really. Uh there would be"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "bandits that would sit up in those um"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "sit up in those hillsides and they would"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "sack the Spanish caravans coming"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "through, kill everybody, drag the gold"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "up in up into the the crevices in in"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "these riversides or I should say little"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "canyon sides that's all dried up. 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They dream of of"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "have you know, having some big apartment"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "in San Antonio and having a a wagon or"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "something like that, you know. And so,"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "um"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "so, they spend their time walking around"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "in the hills looking for gold and they"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "they"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "never really find anything. Well,"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "there's this young boy named Bill Kelly"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "who arrives on"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "uh arrives on a horse or maybe it was on"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "a mule. I think he's riding a mule. And"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "uh he was a he was an African-Mexican"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "boy who probably was a slave in Mexico"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "and he's he's fleeing to the United"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "States. And so, when he arrives, he"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "doesn't have anywhere to go. So, my"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "family just takes him in and he starts"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "working for the He starts working for my"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "family on their on their ranch. And he"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "is driving some of the cattle around to"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "new grazing spots. And it was actually"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "him and one of the other brothers that"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "are out there, they see a crevice in the"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "mountainside and they go over and"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "explore it and it's it's this"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "open mine that had"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "Nobody knows when the mine was. Nobody"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "even knows where the mine is today. Um"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "Something I'd like to do is is go back"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "out there. There's two There's two"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "places where my family is"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "heavily involved in the American"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "Southwest. One is in New Mexico, one's"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "in West Texas. I fully mapped remapped"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "the one in New Mexico. You did? Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "yeah. I can tell you that story. You"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "went out there, right?"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:06", "text": ">> Mhm. Yeah, I've been out there three"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "times. And so, yeah, it's"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "On my grandfather's"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "Oh, I can tell you I'll tell you about"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "that in just a second. But so, staying"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "in the 1890s, they find that mine and"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "they pull out all the gold, but there's"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "no specifics of like, \"Okay, well, what"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "was in there?\" They just knew that it"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "was it was treasure, it was gold, it was"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "you know, wealth, whatever. But they"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "found gold?"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "As the story goes. I have no idea where"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "this gold is today. But yes, they found"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "They found gold. They found They found"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "treasure. And so, essentially it"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "launches into this huge Game of Thrones"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "of like, \"Well, who really Who really"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "found it?\" Bill Kelly tries to run away"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "with with some of the gold. Some of the"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "brothers try to run away with some of"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "the gold. Anyways,"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "This old"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:47", "text": ">> This old story. Yeah, yeah. It's It's"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "this old story. And there's so many"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "different ways that the story is told."}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "I've never read a book that actually"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "I've never read two books that tell the"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "story the same way. But essentially,"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "only one of the brothers makes it makes"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "it out of this huge debacle. You don't"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "even know if he actually made it with"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "some of the money. But And then And the"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "story just ends. But my family lineage"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "somehow disappears from West Texas and"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "reappears in East Texas and they're now"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "involved in oil. Interesting."}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:15", "text": ">> exactly. So, that's it. So, there's this"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "there's this"}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:18", "text": ">> so,"}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "of maybe like a decade or more, and all"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "of a sudden my family is in East Texas"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "and now they're involved in oil and very"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "wealthy and everything."}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "and so uh so, they're involved in in oil"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "in East Texas, and that would be my"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "great-grandfather."}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "His son, Leslie Reagan,"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "has this idea of also wanting to be an"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "explorer and a treasure hunter and"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "everything. Now, I should say, just as a"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "preface, none of this money exists"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "today. I I nothing that I do is"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "bankrolled by my family lineage or"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "anything like that. But, um"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "so, my grandfather, Leslie Reagan, he"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "has this dream of also being an"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "explorer."}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "And so"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:19:57", "text": ">> instead?"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "Well, he was just he was just managing"}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "the family oil business. Like, they had"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "they had a private airport and private"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "jets and all kinds of crazy stuff. And"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "so, yeah, it's wild."}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:07", "text": ">> Where's your trust fund?"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:08", "text": ">> Um I know. I know. I wish I wish we had"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "I wish we had it."}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:11", "text": ">> Beautiful. I wish we had any of this"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "today, cuz, man, I could All this lidar"}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "stuff I'm talking to you about, I would"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "have done this years ago."}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:18", "text": ">> But, uh"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "so, [snorts] he goes off to New Mexico"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "to try to find this legendary place"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "called seven Coronado's seven lost gold"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "mines, or the seven lost gold mines of"}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "New Mexico. And this is written about in"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "I think it's True West magazine. They"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "did like three magazines on my on my"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "grandpa. I should have brought this for"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "you. This would have been cool. Next"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "time, I'll bring you something, yeah."}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "You can buy these on eBay for like $2."}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "Yeah, yeah, yeah."}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:45", "text": ">> Um and uh so, he he tries to go out"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "there to find these legendary lost gold"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "mines, and he wants to get into gold"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "mining in general. So, this police"}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:53", "text": "officer that lives"}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "in this town, I won't say what town, but"}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "this police [snorts] officer officer"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "that lives in the town essentially"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "knocks on his trailer door. You know,"}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "they all lived in the chrome trailers"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:02", "text": "and everything. And uh and said, \"Hey,"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "you know, I know you're out here looking"}, {"start": "00:21:02", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "for such and such and such. I've been"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "doing this for years as well. You You"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "come with me.\""}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "We don't really know how long the time"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "period is between them beginning to look"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "for these lost gold mines and actually"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "finding them, but they do find them."}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:18", "text": ">> [snorts]"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:19", "text": ">> And by 1955, 1956-ish,"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "they"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "they found the gold mines, these old"}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "Spanish gold mines, and expanded them"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "and turned it into"}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:28", "text": "I shouldn't say the company name either,"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "but um"}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:31", "text": "well, in the '50s, this is somebody's"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:32", "text": "land, right? Did they This is my"}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "grandpa's land, yeah. Well, now he"}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "bought it, yeah, yeah. But but it was"}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "actually um"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "it was actually Sure. Yeah, so he buys"}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:41", "text": "it from the state. He has like a claim"}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "on it, but then but I think he actually"}, {"start": "00:21:41", "end": "00:21:43", "text": "owned the land rather than just having a"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "claim."}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "And uh so he expands this and turns this"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "into a full-blown gold mining company."}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "And the way that it got its"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:57", "text": "Ah, this is tough cuz if I say the name,"}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "you can just go you can go find it, but"}, {"start": "00:21:57", "end": "00:22:01", "text": "you know, and I don't want people like"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "walking around out there, but uh um"}, {"start": "00:22:01", "end": "00:22:07", "text": "one of the legends that that he would"}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:09", "text": "tell my family was that at night"}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "when they were camping out at the gold"}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "mines, you could hear these bells."}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:15", "text": "Like ringing like ding ding ding ding."}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:17", "text": "And they're very very faint. And he"}, {"start": "00:22:15", "end": "00:22:19", "text": "never actually found the source of the"}, {"start": "00:22:17", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "bells, but what he thought it was was"}, {"start": "00:22:19", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "that uh when the Spaniards were were"}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "mining out these uh when in their gold"}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "mines, they would have canaries, but"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:28", "text": "they would also have bells. And if the"}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "bells are moving, you would know that"}, {"start": "00:22:28", "end": "00:22:31", "text": "the air is is moving. You're getting"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:33", "text": "You're getting clean air through the"}, {"start": "00:22:31", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "mines. And um"}, {"start": "00:22:33", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "so that's like one of the main legends"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "around around these mines. And I've been"}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "out there, I've listened, I can't hear"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "the bells. Uh they're probably rusted"}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:44", "text": "away since he opened them back up. But"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:46", "text": "so he found this place called the Seven"}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "Lost Gold Mines of New Mexico or"}, {"start": "00:22:46", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "Coronado's Seven Lost Gold Mines."}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:53", "text": "Ultimately, he expanded it to"}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:54", "text": "between 38 to 42 different mines. Wow."}, {"start": "00:22:53", "end": "00:22:57", "text": "It was a it was a really really"}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:23:00", "text": "profitable operation, and a um and a"}, {"start": "00:22:57", "end": "00:23:03", "text": "smelter ended up exploding. One or two"}, {"start": "00:23:00", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "guys died during this, and this was in a"}, {"start": "00:23:03", "end": "00:23:07", "text": "time this is 1962 or 63."}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:09", "text": "Um this was in a time where like if you"}, {"start": "00:23:07", "end": "00:23:10", "text": "were in"}, {"start": "00:23:09", "end": "00:23:11", "text": "a business partner with somebody,"}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:13", "text": "especially out in the middle of nowhere,"}, {"start": "00:23:11", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "they could run away with the money and"}, {"start": "00:23:13", "end": "00:23:16", "text": "never see it again, never see them"}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "again. And so my grandfather's business"}, {"start": "00:23:16", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "partner ran away with everything, and my"}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "family was"}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:26", "text": "financially destitute. I mean like"}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:28", "text": "no money at all. Nothing."}, {"start": "00:23:26", "end": "00:23:30", "text": ">> were dry? No, they weren't dry. They"}, {"start": "00:23:28", "end": "00:23:32", "text": "they um they had to close in most of"}, {"start": "00:23:30", "end": "00:23:35", "text": "them. Uh there's a few of them that were"}, {"start": "00:23:32", "end": "00:23:38", "text": "still open like"}, {"start": "00:23:35", "end": "00:23:38", "text": "at least three of them are still open."}, {"start": "00:23:38", "end": "00:23:40", "text": "Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's three."}, {"start": "00:23:38", "end": "00:23:42", "text": ">> Still mining? No, no, no, no, but but"}, {"start": "00:23:40", "end": "00:23:44", "text": "the whole the portal is there. He closed"}, {"start": "00:23:42", "end": "00:23:45", "text": "in everything."}, {"start": "00:23:44", "end": "00:23:48", "text": "And he"}, {"start": "00:23:45", "end": "00:23:50", "text": "at least in the 1960s when this was more"}, {"start": "00:23:48", "end": "00:23:52", "text": "easy more easily done,"}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:54", "text": "uh he still"}, {"start": "00:23:52", "end": "00:23:56", "text": "he still owned the land, I believe. He"}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:23:58", "text": "still had a claim on it."}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:24:01", "text": "Closed all the mines, and all of and he"}, {"start": "00:23:58", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "made new maps. And none of the maps have"}, {"start": "00:24:01", "end": "00:24:04", "text": "the actual location of the property on"}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:06", "text": "them. So he thought one day he'd be able"}, {"start": "00:24:04", "end": "00:24:08", "text": "to build up the money to go back and and"}, {"start": "00:24:06", "end": "00:24:09", "text": "reopen them, so he kept the claim on"}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:13", "text": "them. And I don't think the claim was"}, {"start": "00:24:09", "end": "00:24:15", "text": "relinquished until like 1989, so"}, {"start": "00:24:13", "end": "00:24:17", "text": "uh you know, several years after he"}, {"start": "00:24:15", "end": "00:24:17", "text": "passed. And he didn't mark the mines, I"}, {"start": "00:24:17", "end": "00:24:19", "text": "guess, to"}, {"start": "00:24:17", "end": "00:24:21", "text": ">> Not on the not on the maps, exactly, to"}, {"start": "00:24:19", "end": "00:24:23", "text": "protect them. And so I inherited these"}, {"start": "00:24:21", "end": "00:24:25", "text": "maps"}, {"start": "00:24:23", "end": "00:24:27", "text": "4 years ago. And I inherited everything"}, {"start": "00:24:25", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "that that he had found. Oh, I should"}, {"start": "00:24:27", "end": "00:24:33", "text": "also say that when they were down in"}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:36", "text": "these mines, he would discover uh like"}, {"start": "00:24:33", "end": "00:24:37", "text": "Native American threads and pottery and"}, {"start": "00:24:36", "end": "00:24:38", "text": "and you know, like textiles and stuff."}, {"start": "00:24:37", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "And so he'd bring them back up, and then"}, {"start": "00:24:38", "end": "00:24:42", "text": "when the wind would hit them, they would"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:44", "text": "disintegrate in his hands. So there's"}, {"start": "00:24:42", "end": "00:24:44", "text": "pottery and things that he's found,"}, {"start": "00:24:44", "end": "00:24:45", "text": ">> [snorts]"}, {"start": "00:24:44", "end": "00:24:46", "text": ">> uh and I found po- I found Native"}, {"start": "00:24:45", "end": "00:24:47", "text": "American pottery when I was when I was"}, {"start": "00:24:46", "end": "00:24:48", "text": "out there, too. They find all these"}, {"start": "00:24:47", "end": "00:24:49", "text": "artifacts, and they would all"}, {"start": "00:24:48", "end": "00:24:51", "text": "disintegrate. Of course, he didn't know"}, {"start": "00:24:49", "end": "00:24:53", "text": "how to preserve them. You know, he"}, {"start": "00:24:51", "end": "00:24:56", "text": "wasn't archaeologist. Um but he's"}, {"start": "00:24:53", "end": "00:24:57", "text": "fascinated about about all this. And um"}, {"start": "00:24:56", "end": "00:24:58", "text": "You were able to hold on to some of that"}, {"start": "00:24:57", "end": "00:25:00", "text": "stuff? We have [clears throat] we have"}, {"start": "00:24:58", "end": "00:25:02", "text": "them in boxes at my at my parents' house"}, {"start": "00:25:00", "end": "00:25:03", "text": "in North Carolina. Do you plan to show"}, {"start": "00:25:02", "end": "00:25:03", "text": "those to the public at some point?"}, {"start": "00:25:03", "end": "00:25:06", "text": "[snorts]"}, {"start": "00:25:03", "end": "00:25:07", "text": "No. No. No. This this wasn't"}, {"start": "00:25:06", "end": "00:25:09", "text": ">> Yeah, this wasn't that kind of thing."}, {"start": "00:25:07", "end": "00:25:11", "text": "This was like This is like those were"}, {"start": "00:25:09", "end": "00:25:12", "text": "his personal treasures, you know? He was"}, {"start": "00:25:11", "end": "00:25:14", "text": "he was in it for the gold money, right?"}, {"start": "00:25:12", "end": "00:25:16", "text": "And the and the excitement and the"}, {"start": "00:25:14", "end": "00:25:18", "text": "adventure and I think the local fame,"}, {"start": "00:25:16", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "like he was known in Texas, right?"}, {"start": "00:25:18", "end": "00:25:22", "text": "Um and I guess the magazines, like he he"}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:24", "text": "he liked that. So, this is treasure"}, {"start": "00:25:22", "end": "00:25:25", "text": "hunting, yes, full-on treasure hunting"}, {"start": "00:25:24", "end": "00:25:27", "text": "for"}, {"start": "00:25:25", "end": "00:25:29", "text": ">> notoriety and wealth, right? And"}, {"start": "00:25:27", "end": "00:25:31", "text": "Americans were crazy for these stories"}, {"start": "00:25:29", "end": "00:25:33", "text": "then. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So,"}, {"start": "00:25:31", "end": "00:25:34", "text": "uh"}, {"start": "00:25:33", "end": "00:25:36", "text": "Yeah, I don't think he had any"}, {"start": "00:25:34", "end": "00:25:37", "text": "intentions of like putting them in a"}, {"start": "00:25:36", "end": "00:25:38", "text": "museum in Albuquerque or anything like"}, {"start": "00:25:37", "end": "00:25:39", "text": "that."}, {"start": "00:25:38", "end": "00:25:41", "text": ">> Right. So, now they just sit at my"}, {"start": "00:25:39", "end": "00:25:44", "text": "parents' house. Um"}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:47", "text": "and so, uh so, I got these maps and I"}, {"start": "00:25:44", "end": "00:25:48", "text": "was just like I'd asked my dad, I said,"}, {"start": "00:25:47", "end": "00:25:50", "text": "\"Dad, when's the last time somebody went"}, {"start": "00:25:48", "end": "00:25:51", "text": "out here?\" And he goes, \"Well, you know"}, {"start": "00:25:50", "end": "00:25:54", "text": "I"}, {"start": "00:25:51", "end": "00:25:55", "text": "I don't I don't really know, but I bet"}, {"start": "00:25:54", "end": "00:25:57", "text": "you I know I bet you I know the last"}, {"start": "00:25:55", "end": "00:25:59", "text": "time that it happened.\" And he told me"}, {"start": "00:25:57", "end": "00:26:02", "text": "he had a vague memory of sitting in a"}, {"start": "00:25:59", "end": "00:26:03", "text": "car with his mom out in the middle of"}, {"start": "00:26:02", "end": "00:26:06", "text": "the desert while"}, {"start": "00:26:03", "end": "00:26:07", "text": "his dad and some other guy that he was"}, {"start": "00:26:06", "end": "00:26:09", "text": "with"}, {"start": "00:26:07", "end": "00:26:11", "text": "got out of the car and they were gone"}, {"start": "00:26:09", "end": "00:26:13", "text": "for like hours until until nightfall."}, {"start": "00:26:11", "end": "00:26:14", "text": "And he just remembers sitting in this"}, {"start": "00:26:13", "end": "00:26:16", "text": "car for hours with my mom. And he was"}, {"start": "00:26:14", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "like, \"I bet you I was there. And my dad"}, {"start": "00:26:16", "end": "00:26:19", "text": "and some other guy went to go look at"}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:21", "text": "the mine.\" So, he's like that I think he"}, {"start": "00:26:19", "end": "00:26:22", "text": "told me that was the '70s. He said,"}, {"start": "00:26:21", "end": "00:26:24", "text": "\"That was probably the last time that"}, {"start": "00:26:22", "end": "00:26:25", "text": "that anybody was was ever really out"}, {"start": "00:26:24", "end": "00:26:27", "text": "there.\""}, {"start": "00:26:25", "end": "00:26:28", "text": "And uh"}, {"start": "00:26:27", "end": "00:26:29", "text": "and he didn't know where it was. He"}, {"start": "00:26:28", "end": "00:26:31", "text": "didn't have the first My dad didn't have"}, {"start": "00:26:29", "end": "00:26:32", "text": "the first idea. Now, my dad, I should"}, {"start": "00:26:31", "end": "00:26:35", "text": "say,"}, {"start": "00:26:32", "end": "00:26:37", "text": "he's a lover of history. Uh my dad was a"}, {"start": "00:26:35", "end": "00:26:39", "text": "was a was a cave explorer like in when"}, {"start": "00:26:37", "end": "00:26:41", "text": "he was probably about my age and and"}, {"start": "00:26:39", "end": "00:26:43", "text": "younger than me uh in Missouri. He he"}, {"start": "00:26:41", "end": "00:26:45", "text": "explored and mapped caves. He was like a"}, {"start": "00:26:43", "end": "00:26:48", "text": "spelunker or speleologist, I should say,"}, {"start": "00:26:45", "end": "00:26:50", "text": "sort of uh amateur speleologist. Loves"}, {"start": "00:26:48", "end": "00:26:51", "text": "America."}, {"start": "00:26:50", "end": "00:26:53", "text": ">> Speleologist?"}, {"start": "00:26:51", "end": "00:26:54", "text": ">> Maybe so. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh I think"}, {"start": "00:26:53", "end": "00:26:57", "text": "so. And"}, {"start": "00:26:54", "end": "00:26:59", "text": "so he has this sense of adventure in in"}, {"start": "00:26:57", "end": "00:27:00", "text": "his own unique way that wasn't based on"}, {"start": "00:26:59", "end": "00:27:03", "text": "like lost Spanish gold or anything like"}, {"start": "00:27:00", "end": "00:27:05", "text": "that. Loves American history. Just"}, {"start": "00:27:03", "end": "00:27:08", "text": "obsessed"}, {"start": "00:27:05", "end": "00:27:10", "text": "with American history. And"}, {"start": "00:27:08", "end": "00:27:12", "text": "then my dad had to climb his way out of"}, {"start": "00:27:10", "end": "00:27:14", "text": "this like financially destitute place"}, {"start": "00:27:12", "end": "00:27:15", "text": "that my family ultimately ended up in."}, {"start": "00:27:14", "end": "00:27:18", "text": "And then it was me, I was kind of more"}, {"start": "00:27:15", "end": "00:27:20", "text": "able to inherit what my grandfather and"}, {"start": "00:27:18", "end": "00:27:22", "text": "other grandfathers had. That that sort"}, {"start": "00:27:20", "end": "00:27:27", "text": "of spirit that they had, but um"}, {"start": "00:27:22", "end": "00:27:28", "text": "So anyways, I was obsessed with finding"}, {"start": "00:27:27", "end": "00:27:30", "text": "the location [snorts] of these mines and"}, {"start": "00:27:28", "end": "00:27:33", "text": "where they were at. So they're all drawn"}, {"start": "00:27:30", "end": "00:27:35", "text": "by hand by my grandfather. And of course"}, {"start": "00:27:33", "end": "00:27:37", "text": "he's drawing it by walking around and"}, {"start": "00:27:35", "end": "00:27:40", "text": "he's doing it by eye, right? So it's not"}, {"start": "00:27:37", "end": "00:27:42", "text": "exact, not even close to being like"}, {"start": "00:27:40", "end": "00:27:44", "text": "what you could see on on satellite"}, {"start": "00:27:42", "end": "00:27:47", "text": "imagery."}, {"start": "00:27:44", "end": "00:27:48", "text": "And so I had to spend"}, {"start": "00:27:47", "end": "00:27:50", "text": "I had to spend the only thing I knew was"}, {"start": "00:27:48", "end": "00:27:51", "text": "the city that they were based out of. So"}, {"start": "00:27:50", "end": "00:27:55", "text": "they were based out of this one tiny"}, {"start": "00:27:51", "end": "00:27:57", "text": "little town and I have this vast open"}, {"start": "00:27:55", "end": "00:27:59", "text": "wilderness around it that I have to map."}, {"start": "00:27:57", "end": "00:28:01", "text": "And so it took me 9 months Wow."}, {"start": "00:27:59", "end": "00:28:03", "text": ">> the location on Google Earth."}, {"start": "00:28:01", "end": "00:28:05", "text": "And he didn't even have north-south"}, {"start": "00:28:03", "end": "00:28:06", "text": "marked on the maps either."}, {"start": "00:28:05", "end": "00:28:09", "text": ">> Took me 9 months."}, {"start": "00:28:06", "end": "00:28:10", "text": "What did you find? Uh [clears throat] so"}, {"start": "00:28:09", "end": "00:28:12", "text": "I knew that I found the location. It was"}, {"start": "00:28:10", "end": "00:28:14", "text": "just like I could tell These are the"}, {"start": "00:28:12", "end": "00:28:16", "text": "mines? You found the seven gold mines?"}, {"start": "00:28:14", "end": "00:28:19", "text": "Yeah, I did. Yeah, I found Yeah, so it's"}, {"start": "00:28:16", "end": "00:28:21", "text": "like weird like he found them and then"}, {"start": "00:28:19", "end": "00:28:23", "text": "he made sure that nobody would knew know"}, {"start": "00:28:21", "end": "00:28:23", "text": "where location was. So then I found"}, {"start": "00:28:23", "end": "00:28:25", "text": "them."}, {"start": "00:28:23", "end": "00:28:28", "text": "It was cool. So"}, {"start": "00:28:25", "end": "00:28:29", "text": "I took a friend of mine and"}, {"start": "00:28:28", "end": "00:28:33", "text": "a couple months later we drove out to"}, {"start": "00:28:29", "end": "00:28:35", "text": "New Mexico and uh"}, {"start": "00:28:33", "end": "00:28:36", "text": "you know, we cut a bunch of locks and"}, {"start": "00:28:35", "end": "00:28:39", "text": "drove through a whole bunch of private"}, {"start": "00:28:36", "end": "00:28:43", "text": "property straight out into the middle of"}, {"start": "00:28:39", "end": "00:28:45", "text": "nowhere. And and we found we I confirmed"}, {"start": "00:28:43", "end": "00:28:47", "text": "it on the on the ground. And I'm I'm"}, {"start": "00:28:45", "end": "00:28:49", "text": "walking around out there and"}, {"start": "00:28:47", "end": "00:28:51", "text": "uh picking up these these like old"}, {"start": "00:28:49", "end": "00:28:52", "text": "bottles and cans that are out there. It"}, {"start": "00:28:51", "end": "00:28:56", "text": "didn't look like anybody had been there."}, {"start": "00:28:52", "end": "00:28:57", "text": "There's no, you know, from from from the"}, {"start": "00:28:56", "end": "00:28:59", "text": "map and from Google Earth, you can see"}, {"start": "00:28:57", "end": "00:29:00", "text": "where these paths are, where these old"}, {"start": "00:28:59", "end": "00:29:01", "text": "cars would have been driving around"}, {"start": "00:29:00", "end": "00:29:03", "text": "there, but you can't see anything when"}, {"start": "00:29:01", "end": "00:29:05", "text": "you're actually there in person. There's"}, {"start": "00:29:03", "end": "00:29:07", "text": "no remnants left of the little roads and"}, {"start": "00:29:05", "end": "00:29:09", "text": "but there's old like pocket whiskey"}, {"start": "00:29:07", "end": "00:29:10", "text": "glasses and Could you feel it though? I"}, {"start": "00:29:09", "end": "00:29:13", "text": "mean, maybe they were there for a while."}, {"start": "00:29:10", "end": "00:29:14", "text": ">> yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, man. Um"}, {"start": "00:29:13", "end": "00:29:16", "text": ">> to be thinking this"}, {"start": "00:29:14", "end": "00:29:18", "text": ">> It's a It's Grandpa's whiskey?"}, {"start": "00:29:16", "end": "00:29:19", "text": "Well, I looked into that. So So there"}, {"start": "00:29:18", "end": "00:29:22", "text": "was a I forget what the name of the"}, {"start": "00:29:19", "end": "00:29:25", "text": "brand was, but I um one of my buddies"}, {"start": "00:29:22", "end": "00:29:26", "text": "had a he's got Grok like satellite um"}, {"start": "00:29:25", "end": "00:29:28", "text": "and so we would ask Grok a bunch of"}, {"start": "00:29:26", "end": "00:29:30", "text": "questions and he would tell me about it"}, {"start": "00:29:28", "end": "00:29:32", "text": "and we found this one really expensive"}, {"start": "00:29:30", "end": "00:29:33", "text": "pocket whiskey. Uh it was a bottom half"}, {"start": "00:29:32", "end": "00:29:35", "text": "of the glass that was broken and it"}, {"start": "00:29:33", "end": "00:29:37", "text": "still had the label the um"}, {"start": "00:29:35", "end": "00:29:39", "text": "the brand name on it and so we looked it"}, {"start": "00:29:37", "end": "00:29:41", "text": "up and it was a very expensive pocket"}, {"start": "00:29:39", "end": "00:29:44", "text": "whiskey. It must have been his. And uh"}, {"start": "00:29:41", "end": "00:29:46", "text": "so I kept every little thing I could put"}, {"start": "00:29:44", "end": "00:29:48", "text": "in like a plastic bag. I kept all of it"}, {"start": "00:29:46", "end": "00:29:49", "text": "with me. I even had like rusted cans."}, {"start": "00:29:48", "end": "00:29:50", "text": "You know, just stuff that I know must"}, {"start": "00:29:49", "end": "00:29:52", "text": "have been his. I would have done the"}, {"start": "00:29:50", "end": "00:29:53", "text": "same thing. Just gathered all up. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:29:52", "end": "00:29:55", "text": "[clears throat] yeah. And there's more"}, {"start": "00:29:53", "end": "00:29:57", "text": "out there, too. There's so there's so"}, {"start": "00:29:55", "end": "00:29:59", "text": "much more like uh the every time I've"}, {"start": "00:29:57", "end": "00:30:00", "text": "gone back, I find more laying on the"}, {"start": "00:29:59", "end": "00:30:02", "text": "ground. What about the mines? Did you"}, {"start": "00:30:00", "end": "00:30:04", "text": "get in there?"}, {"start": "00:30:02", "end": "00:30:06", "text": "I I'm I want to go back, but I want to"}, {"start": "00:30:04", "end": "00:30:08", "text": "go back and do it properly."}, {"start": "00:30:06", "end": "00:30:10", "text": "Um mines"}, {"start": "00:30:08", "end": "00:30:11", "text": ">> No, no, no, no, no. Well, I"}, {"start": "00:30:10", "end": "00:30:14", "text": "I don't want to admit to doing anything"}, {"start": "00:30:11", "end": "00:30:15", "text": "illegal, but uh no, I want to go back in"}, {"start": "00:30:14", "end": "00:30:16", "text": "with"}, {"start": "00:30:15", "end": "00:30:18", "text": ">> Yeah. I want to go back in with"}, {"start": "00:30:16", "end": "00:30:20", "text": "something that can monitor the air"}, {"start": "00:30:18", "end": "00:30:22", "text": "quality because it only takes a couple"}, {"start": "00:30:20", "end": "00:30:24", "text": "seconds to die from toxic air in a mine."}, {"start": "00:30:22", "end": "00:30:26", "text": ">> did see the openings? Oh, yeah. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:30:24", "end": "00:30:28", "text": "yeah, yeah, yeah. I I went really close"}, {"start": "00:30:26", "end": "00:30:31", "text": "to going down in one. I would I I went"}, {"start": "00:30:28", "end": "00:30:33", "text": "probably 20 ft in one that was open. I"}, {"start": "00:30:31", "end": "00:30:35", "text": "mean, it There's one of them that's like"}, {"start": "00:30:33", "end": "00:30:38", "text": "as open as this room is and it just goes"}, {"start": "00:30:35", "end": "00:30:39", "text": "back forever. In fact, I saw uh a very"}, {"start": "00:30:38", "end": "00:30:41", "text": "endangered species in one of them, the"}, {"start": "00:30:39", "end": "00:30:43", "text": "black-footed black-footed ferret."}, {"start": "00:30:41", "end": "00:30:45", "text": "They're They're critically endangered in"}, {"start": "00:30:43", "end": "00:30:47", "text": "New Mexico. And uh there was one sitting"}, {"start": "00:30:45", "end": "00:30:48", "text": "up on a ledge. It was looking at me and"}, {"start": "00:30:47", "end": "00:30:50", "text": "I didn't realize it was there until it"}, {"start": "00:30:48", "end": "00:30:51", "text": "started moving and it ran off and I was"}, {"start": "00:30:50", "end": "00:30:53", "text": "like"}, {"start": "00:30:51", "end": "00:30:55", "text": "that wasn't a rat. That wasn't a What"}, {"start": "00:30:53", "end": "00:30:57", "text": "the What was that? And so I was like"}, {"start": "00:30:55", "end": "00:30:59", "text": "going through species that live in"}, {"start": "00:30:57", "end": "00:31:00", "text": "mammals that live in New Mexico and I"}, {"start": "00:30:59", "end": "00:31:01", "text": "found a black-footed ferret and I was"}, {"start": "00:31:00", "end": "00:31:04", "text": "like, oh, I actually found where it"}, {"start": "00:31:01", "end": "00:31:06", "text": "lived where one of them live. And"}, {"start": "00:31:04", "end": "00:31:07", "text": "obviously cuz it's like 25 miles out in"}, {"start": "00:31:06", "end": "00:31:09", "text": "the wilderness, right? It's not around"}, {"start": "00:31:07", "end": "00:31:12", "text": "humans at all. So that was cool."}, {"start": "00:31:09", "end": "00:31:13", "text": "But there's a main shaft opening."}, {"start": "00:31:12", "end": "00:31:16", "text": "There's two other ones. That was kind of"}, {"start": "00:31:13", "end": "00:31:20", "text": "like a periphery um mine that's way off"}, {"start": "00:31:16", "end": "00:31:22", "text": "to the east. The main central area"}, {"start": "00:31:20", "end": "00:31:23", "text": "uh there's two"}, {"start": "00:31:22", "end": "00:31:26", "text": "So basically you would have like one"}, {"start": "00:31:23", "end": "00:31:30", "text": "shaft that descends down at 45°. So it"}, {"start": "00:31:26", "end": "00:31:33", "text": "descends down at 45°. It heads west and"}, {"start": "00:31:30", "end": "00:31:34", "text": "then there is a a refuge shaft that"}, {"start": "00:31:33", "end": "00:31:37", "text": "comes straight up. That's probably like"}, {"start": "00:31:34", "end": "00:31:38", "text": "150 ft up. So it's just this hole. Like"}, {"start": "00:31:37", "end": "00:31:41", "text": "you you walk out in the middle of desert"}, {"start": "00:31:38", "end": "00:31:44", "text": "and there's just a massive 15-ft by"}, {"start": "00:31:41", "end": "00:31:46", "text": "15-ft wide hole and it's so deep that no"}, {"start": "00:31:44", "end": "00:31:48", "text": "matter how close you get to the edge,"}, {"start": "00:31:46", "end": "00:31:51", "text": "you can never see the bottom and you can"}, {"start": "00:31:48", "end": "00:31:53", "text": "feel the air like shooting out of the of"}, {"start": "00:31:51", "end": "00:31:54", "text": "it. Like you can feel the air hitting"}, {"start": "00:31:53", "end": "00:31:56", "text": "you as you as you walk up to it."}, {"start": "00:31:54", "end": "00:31:56", "text": ">> no structure, platform, nothing. Just a"}, {"start": "00:31:56", "end": "00:31:58", "text": "hole."}, {"start": "00:31:56", "end": "00:32:00", "text": ">> Well, I threw a rock down there and you"}, {"start": "00:31:58", "end": "00:32:01", "text": "can hear it go ding ding and it hits all"}, {"start": "00:32:00", "end": "00:32:02", "text": "this metal. So there's structures down"}, {"start": "00:32:01", "end": "00:32:06", "text": "there."}, {"start": "00:32:02", "end": "00:32:09", "text": ">> Oh. And so my dad went and one of my"}, {"start": "00:32:06", "end": "00:32:12", "text": "other family members um"}, {"start": "00:32:09", "end": "00:32:15", "text": "must be must be like a I should say"}, {"start": "00:32:12", "end": "00:32:17", "text": "cousin of mine but"}, {"start": "00:32:15", "end": "00:32:20", "text": "a niece of my dad. She had five other"}, {"start": "00:32:17", "end": "00:32:22", "text": "maps that we didn't have. And so we got"}, {"start": "00:32:20", "end": "00:32:24", "text": "those from her and they were actually of"}, {"start": "00:32:22", "end": "00:32:27", "text": "the the mine layouts."}, {"start": "00:32:24", "end": "00:32:29", "text": "And one of And this was after I had been"}, {"start": "00:32:27", "end": "00:32:31", "text": "to the sites. So I was now able to"}, {"start": "00:32:29", "end": "00:32:32", "text": "actually see how the mines worked and"}, {"start": "00:32:31", "end": "00:32:34", "text": "interconnected with each other under the"}, {"start": "00:32:32", "end": "00:32:35", "text": "ground. Who drew those maps? My my"}, {"start": "00:32:34", "end": "00:32:38", "text": "grandfather. Yeah, so he was a"}, {"start": "00:32:35", "end": "00:32:39", "text": "cartographer. He drew all of stuff. How"}, {"start": "00:32:38", "end": "00:32:40", "text": "did Where did you find those? Those"}, {"start": "00:32:39", "end": "00:32:42", "text": "would have been hard."}, {"start": "00:32:40", "end": "00:32:44", "text": ">> She inherited them. Yeah, yeah. So like"}, {"start": "00:32:42", "end": "00:32:46", "text": "two different, you know, my uncles and"}, {"start": "00:32:44", "end": "00:32:48", "text": "my dad inherited some some of the maps"}, {"start": "00:32:46", "end": "00:32:49", "text": "and and I think all the artifacts and"}, {"start": "00:32:48", "end": "00:32:52", "text": "she"}, {"start": "00:32:49", "end": "00:32:54", "text": "uh because her father was my dad's"}, {"start": "00:32:52", "end": "00:32:55", "text": "brother, right? She ended up getting"}, {"start": "00:32:54", "end": "00:32:57", "text": "some of the interior maps. So it was"}, {"start": "00:32:55", "end": "00:32:59", "text": "kind of split up. So now"}, {"start": "00:32:57", "end": "00:33:01", "text": "uh I have everything other than the"}, {"start": "00:32:59", "end": "00:33:03", "text": "artifacts and my grandpa's gun,"}, {"start": "00:33:01", "end": "00:33:06", "text": "everything is in my office. Like all the"}, {"start": "00:33:03", "end": "00:33:07", "text": "maps, everything. Um I've got them all"}, {"start": "00:33:06", "end": "00:33:08", "text": "like framed up and"}, {"start": "00:33:07", "end": "00:33:10", "text": "Some people online, there I There's"}, {"start": "00:33:08", "end": "00:33:11", "text": "sometimes there's photos of my office"}, {"start": "00:33:10", "end": "00:33:14", "text": "that get post that I've posted and you"}, {"start": "00:33:11", "end": "00:33:16", "text": "can see the maps. Um"}, {"start": "00:33:14", "end": "00:33:19", "text": "But yeah, all drawn out by by my grandpa"}, {"start": "00:33:16", "end": "00:33:21", "text": "and so much of it went unexplored. There"}, {"start": "00:33:19", "end": "00:33:24", "text": "are these huge shafts and these are"}, {"start": "00:33:21", "end": "00:33:25", "text": "diorite mines. So super They're probably"}, {"start": "00:33:24", "end": "00:33:27", "text": "still stable."}, {"start": "00:33:25", "end": "00:33:28", "text": "I just have to know that the air quality"}, {"start": "00:33:27", "end": "00:33:30", "text": "is good enough to go in them. But these"}, {"start": "00:33:28", "end": "00:33:31", "text": "massive shafts that he shined a"}, {"start": "00:33:30", "end": "00:33:34", "text": "flashlight down and there was no end to"}, {"start": "00:33:31", "end": "00:33:35", "text": "it. And so he has written on the map, it"}, {"start": "00:33:34", "end": "00:33:37", "text": "would say uh"}, {"start": "00:33:35", "end": "00:33:39", "text": "it would say"}, {"start": "00:33:37", "end": "00:33:41", "text": "it would say dug out by Spanish,"}, {"start": "00:33:39", "end": "00:33:42", "text": "unmapped. Dug out by Spanish, unmapped."}, {"start": "00:33:41", "end": "00:33:43", "text": ">> That's crazy."}, {"start": "00:33:42", "end": "00:33:46", "text": ">> So they'd been there for hundreds of"}, {"start": "00:33:43", "end": "00:33:47", "text": "years and he never he never got to"}, {"start": "00:33:46", "end": "00:33:49", "text": "explore everything. And down at the"}, {"start": "00:33:47", "end": "00:33:52", "text": "bottom of this 150-ft shaft, there's"}, {"start": "00:33:49", "end": "00:33:54", "text": "this massive open room with these other"}, {"start": "00:33:52", "end": "00:33:55", "text": "tunnels that take that that head off,"}, {"start": "00:33:54", "end": "00:33:57", "text": "but they had collapsed and he hadn't"}, {"start": "00:33:55", "end": "00:33:59", "text": "explored them and you know, it's very"}, {"start": "00:33:57", "end": "00:34:01", "text": "expensive to go in and like shore it all"}, {"start": "00:33:59", "end": "00:34:05", "text": "up to make sure it's safe. And so it's"}, {"start": "00:34:01", "end": "00:34:09", "text": "just this massive sprawling mine complex"}, {"start": "00:34:05", "end": "00:34:11", "text": "and I would very much like to"}, {"start": "00:34:09", "end": "00:34:12", "text": "get lower down into into them to be able"}, {"start": "00:34:11", "end": "00:34:14", "text": "to explore them, but I've got to do it"}, {"start": "00:34:12", "end": "00:34:15", "text": "with the right equipment. It's expensive"}, {"start": "00:34:14", "end": "00:34:17", "text": "to put together."}, {"start": "00:34:15", "end": "00:34:19", "text": "Um but I definitely want to monitor air"}, {"start": "00:34:17", "end": "00:34:21", "text": "quality. Now So what would be the bad"}, {"start": "00:34:19", "end": "00:34:21", "text": "air down there? What would cause that?"}, {"start": "00:34:21", "end": "00:34:22", "text": "Oh."}, {"start": "00:34:21", "end": "00:34:24", "text": ">> [sighs]"}, {"start": "00:34:22", "end": "00:34:26", "text": ">> I don't know if I can explain it like a"}, {"start": "00:34:24", "end": "00:34:27", "text": "geologist does, but essentially, you"}, {"start": "00:34:26", "end": "00:34:30", "text": "know, if there's not enough ventilation,"}, {"start": "00:34:27", "end": "00:34:31", "text": "the oxygen will get sucked out of a room"}, {"start": "00:34:30", "end": "00:34:32", "text": "and it'll be"}, {"start": "00:34:31", "end": "00:34:34", "text": "I guess you could say it's filled with"}, {"start": "00:34:32", "end": "00:34:37", "text": "with toxic gas, but sometimes it's just"}, {"start": "00:34:34", "end": "00:34:39", "text": "like a it's like when people um are"}, {"start": "00:34:37", "end": "00:34:41", "text": "sitting in their car in a garage and the"}, {"start": "00:34:39", "end": "00:34:44", "text": "garage fills with carbon monoxide and"}, {"start": "00:34:41", "end": "00:34:46", "text": "then they die. You're out. You're gone."}, {"start": "00:34:44", "end": "00:34:48", "text": "And um sometimes there's some there's"}, {"start": "00:34:46", "end": "00:34:51", "text": "some gases that can build up in mines"}, {"start": "00:34:48", "end": "00:34:52", "text": "that there's tons of people who"}, {"start": "00:34:51", "end": "00:34:53", "text": "they're walking around in the desert."}, {"start": "00:34:52", "end": "00:34:54", "text": "There's this big mine opening. They go,"}, {"start": "00:34:53", "end": "00:34:56", "text": "\"Oh, what's"}, {"start": "00:34:54", "end": "00:34:59", "text": "They fall asleep immediately. One"}, {"start": "00:34:56", "end": "00:35:01", "text": "inhalation of that it it it interacts"}, {"start": "00:34:59", "end": "00:35:02", "text": "with your brain. Basically shuts your"}, {"start": "00:35:01", "end": "00:35:05", "text": "brain off. You fall unconscious and"}, {"start": "00:35:02", "end": "00:35:07", "text": "people just fall straight into a mine."}, {"start": "00:35:05", "end": "00:35:09", "text": "Now,"}, {"start": "00:35:07", "end": "00:35:10", "text": "my grandpa, what he always wrote about"}, {"start": "00:35:09", "end": "00:35:13", "text": "them was that they were clean-aired"}, {"start": "00:35:10", "end": "00:35:15", "text": "mines. Like if you read the magazines,"}, {"start": "00:35:13", "end": "00:35:16", "text": "they're granite and diorite mines and so"}, {"start": "00:35:15", "end": "00:35:19", "text": "something about that"}, {"start": "00:35:16", "end": "00:35:22", "text": "makes them safer inherently. I'm I'm not"}, {"start": "00:35:19", "end": "00:35:24", "text": "100% certain on that, but uh"}, {"start": "00:35:22", "end": "00:35:26", "text": "I just didn't I didn't want to take"}, {"start": "00:35:24", "end": "00:35:28", "text": "their take the risk. So so but I am"}, {"start": "00:35:26", "end": "00:35:30", "text": "going to go down in in them with like a"}, {"start": "00:35:28", "end": "00:35:32", "text": "a full-on team and everything and we're"}, {"start": "00:35:30", "end": "00:35:34", "text": "going to explore them. Um but I was just"}, {"start": "00:35:32", "end": "00:35:35", "text": "there a few months ago. And yeah, when"}, {"start": "00:35:34", "end": "00:35:36", "text": "I'm there I"}, {"start": "00:35:35", "end": "00:35:37", "text": "when I'm there it's one of those things"}, {"start": "00:35:36", "end": "00:35:39", "text": "where it's like, \"Ah, this is a special"}, {"start": "00:35:37", "end": "00:35:42", "text": "place.\" Like this is this is"}, {"start": "00:35:39", "end": "00:35:44", "text": "you know, there there there's probably"}, {"start": "00:35:42", "end": "00:35:47", "text": "this one specific"}, {"start": "00:35:44", "end": "00:35:48", "text": "place on the planet."}, {"start": "00:35:47", "end": "00:35:51", "text": "There's"}, {"start": "00:35:48", "end": "00:35:53", "text": "my family probably has more connection"}, {"start": "00:35:51", "end": "00:35:55", "text": "to this one specific place than anybody"}, {"start": "00:35:53", "end": "00:35:57", "text": "else on the planet ever has cuz it's out"}, {"start": "00:35:55", "end": "00:35:59", "text": "in the middle of the wilderness, right?"}, {"start": "00:35:57", "end": "00:36:00", "text": "And uh and yeah, I I sit there and even"}, {"start": "00:35:59", "end": "00:36:02", "text": "though I don't own the property, it's"}, {"start": "00:36:00", "end": "00:36:04", "text": "like spiritually I'm like, \"Yeah, this"}, {"start": "00:36:02", "end": "00:36:08", "text": "is my this is my place.\" You know, my"}, {"start": "00:36:04", "end": "00:36:10", "text": "grandfather's dreams lived and died"}, {"start": "00:36:08", "end": "00:36:12", "text": "here. 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And um"}, {"start": "00:37:43", "end": "00:37:47", "text": ">> too much. Yeah, I won't. I won't. Um but"}, {"start": "00:37:46", "end": "00:37:50", "text": "the mines are also in the Gila"}, {"start": "00:37:47", "end": "00:37:51", "text": "Wilderness and um"}, {"start": "00:37:50", "end": "00:37:54", "text": "And one of those magazines described him"}, {"start": "00:37:51", "end": "00:37:56", "text": "as a Gila explorer. And it's cool"}, {"start": "00:37:54", "end": "00:37:58", "text": "because it's it's our it's our country's"}, {"start": "00:37:56", "end": "00:38:00", "text": "first uh designated wilderness area and"}, {"start": "00:37:58", "end": "00:38:02", "text": "and uh so there's some history there and"}, {"start": "00:38:00", "end": "00:38:04", "text": "and um you know, I don't know if people"}, {"start": "00:38:02", "end": "00:38:06", "text": "realize this, but like my connection to"}, {"start": "00:38:04", "end": "00:38:07", "text": "my grandfather on my"}, {"start": "00:38:06", "end": "00:38:10", "text": ">> in the Gila Wilderness. Yeah, my my"}, {"start": "00:38:07", "end": "00:38:12", "text": "connection to my grandfather on my on my"}, {"start": "00:38:10", "end": "00:38:15", "text": "dad's side is only through stories and"}, {"start": "00:38:12", "end": "00:38:17", "text": "through like spirit. You know, um"}, {"start": "00:38:15", "end": "00:38:19", "text": "You didn't know him. No, I never"}, {"start": "00:38:17", "end": "00:38:22", "text": "actually never actually knew him. It's"}, {"start": "00:38:19", "end": "00:38:24", "text": "all it's this this it's this shadow that"}, {"start": "00:38:22", "end": "00:38:25", "text": "looms over my life. Does it drive you"}, {"start": "00:38:24", "end": "00:38:26", "text": "crazy? Don't you wish you could just sit"}, {"start": "00:38:25", "end": "00:38:29", "text": "with him and ask him a question?"}, {"start": "00:38:26", "end": "00:38:31", "text": ">> Oh, yeah. Yeah. I was Yeah, I was"}, {"start": "00:38:29", "end": "00:38:33", "text": "The night before I left I went on the"}, {"start": "00:38:31", "end": "00:38:35", "text": "expedition, I uh"}, {"start": "00:38:33", "end": "00:38:37", "text": "I was listening to these old like 1950s"}, {"start": "00:38:35", "end": "00:38:40", "text": "One of my favorite songs was Cattle"}, {"start": "00:38:37", "end": "00:38:42", "text": "Call. And these old 1950s Western music"}, {"start": "00:38:40", "end": "00:38:44", "text": "and I just imagined like I know that"}, {"start": "00:38:42", "end": "00:38:45", "text": "this is what he was listening to and I'm"}, {"start": "00:38:44", "end": "00:38:48", "text": "packing for the expedition and it just"}, {"start": "00:38:45", "end": "00:38:51", "text": "like it was the first time I"}, {"start": "00:38:48", "end": "00:38:52", "text": "it hit me this hard. And I was like"}, {"start": "00:38:51", "end": "00:38:54", "text": "I went up and I sat on the edge of my"}, {"start": "00:38:52", "end": "00:38:55", "text": "bed and my wife was like going to bed"}, {"start": "00:38:54", "end": "00:38:57", "text": "and I just like started crying and I was"}, {"start": "00:38:55", "end": "00:38:59", "text": "like I was like I just can't believe I"}, {"start": "00:38:57", "end": "00:39:00", "text": "don't know him. I was like I was like I"}, {"start": "00:38:59", "end": "00:39:01", "text": "was like I know him"}, {"start": "00:39:00", "end": "00:39:04", "text": "because he"}, {"start": "00:39:01", "end": "00:39:05", "text": "I am so much like him."}, {"start": "00:39:04", "end": "00:39:07", "text": "And in everything that I do, it's like"}, {"start": "00:39:05", "end": "00:39:08", "text": "embedded in me. Like I look at my hands."}, {"start": "00:39:07", "end": "00:39:10", "text": "You know, I"}, {"start": "00:39:08", "end": "00:39:13", "text": "I probably have ticks and little weird"}, {"start": "00:39:10", "end": "00:39:13", "text": "things that I do that are him."}, {"start": "00:39:13", "end": "00:39:15", "text": "For sure you do."}, {"start": "00:39:13", "end": "00:39:17", "text": ">> And um"}, {"start": "00:39:15", "end": "00:39:18", "text": "But I don't But I don't know him in"}, {"start": "00:39:17", "end": "00:39:20", "text": "person, you know? And that's kind of one"}, {"start": "00:39:18", "end": "00:39:21", "text": "of those things is that I My dad, he"}, {"start": "00:39:20", "end": "00:39:23", "text": "told me one time, he's like, \"You know,"}, {"start": "00:39:21", "end": "00:39:24", "text": "maybe you'll be out in New Mexico or on"}, {"start": "00:39:23", "end": "00:39:25", "text": "an expedition at some point and you'll"}, {"start": "00:39:24", "end": "00:39:28", "text": "have a dream and you he'll visit you or"}, {"start": "00:39:25", "end": "00:39:30", "text": "something.\" You believe that stuff?"}, {"start": "00:39:28", "end": "00:39:32", "text": "Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I I had an"}, {"start": "00:39:30", "end": "00:39:33", "text": "experience like that with my other"}, {"start": "00:39:32", "end": "00:39:35", "text": "grandfather. We're"}, {"start": "00:39:33", "end": "00:39:36", "text": "We're not getting to [snorts] my outline"}, {"start": "00:39:35", "end": "00:39:38", "text": "because I need to hear this story."}, {"start": "00:39:36", "end": "00:39:41", "text": ">> Yeah, so with my other grandfather,"}, {"start": "00:39:38", "end": "00:39:42", "text": "the one who was a missionary and ancient"}, {"start": "00:39:41", "end": "00:39:44", "text": "historian, you know, loved the ancient"}, {"start": "00:39:42", "end": "00:39:46", "text": "world."}, {"start": "00:39:44", "end": "00:39:47", "text": "So, he passed away a couple years ago"}, {"start": "00:39:46", "end": "00:39:48", "text": "and"}, {"start": "00:39:47", "end": "00:39:51", "text": "he had had [snorts] Alzheimer's for"}, {"start": "00:39:48", "end": "00:39:54", "text": "about 8 years and which is a quite a"}, {"start": "00:39:51", "end": "00:39:55", "text": "long time to survive."}, {"start": "00:39:54", "end": "00:39:57", "text": "It's a shame, actually. One of his"}, {"start": "00:39:55", "end": "00:39:59", "text": "friends um"}, {"start": "00:39:57", "end": "00:40:00", "text": "one of his friends got uh got diagnosed"}, {"start": "00:39:59", "end": "00:40:03", "text": "with it about the same time he did and"}, {"start": "00:40:00", "end": "00:40:04", "text": "he was gone like a year. And um"}, {"start": "00:40:03", "end": "00:40:06", "text": "but my grandma got on it and he was"}, {"start": "00:40:04", "end": "00:40:08", "text": "taking all the right vitamins and stuff"}, {"start": "00:40:06", "end": "00:40:09", "text": "and apparently there's a lot you can do"}, {"start": "00:40:08", "end": "00:40:12", "text": "to kind of stave it off or maybe prevent"}, {"start": "00:40:09", "end": "00:40:13", "text": "it, whatever. But um he He lived for a"}, {"start": "00:40:12", "end": "00:40:15", "text": "long time."}, {"start": "00:40:13", "end": "00:40:15", "text": "And uh"}, {"start": "00:40:15", "end": "00:40:17", "text": ">> [clears throat]"}, {"start": "00:40:15", "end": "00:40:18", "text": ">> there was one night, it was a Tuesday"}, {"start": "00:40:17", "end": "00:40:23", "text": "night. I don't know why exactly I"}, {"start": "00:40:18", "end": "00:40:25", "text": "remember that, but I woke up around 1:30"}, {"start": "00:40:23", "end": "00:40:27", "text": "and I had just had this very profound"}, {"start": "00:40:25", "end": "00:40:30", "text": "dream"}, {"start": "00:40:27", "end": "00:40:31", "text": "where I was in a hospital room sitting"}, {"start": "00:40:30", "end": "00:40:32", "text": "in front of a bed just like I'm sitting"}, {"start": "00:40:31", "end": "00:40:34", "text": "now. I'm on the like the left side of"}, {"start": "00:40:32", "end": "00:40:36", "text": "the bed. My grandpa's right here"}, {"start": "00:40:34", "end": "00:40:38", "text": "and I have my arms over him and I'm"}, {"start": "00:40:36", "end": "00:40:41", "text": "crying and I'm telling him I love you."}, {"start": "00:40:38", "end": "00:40:42", "text": "I'll miss you and I kissed him. And I'm"}, {"start": "00:40:41", "end": "00:40:44", "text": "not like the only person I kiss is my"}, {"start": "00:40:42", "end": "00:40:47", "text": "wife. Like I don't kiss my family"}, {"start": "00:40:44", "end": "00:40:48", "text": "members, right? It was just like"}, {"start": "00:40:47", "end": "00:40:51", "text": "not normal for me to to behave like that"}, {"start": "00:40:48", "end": "00:40:53", "text": "in a dream. And I woke up at 1:00 a.m."}, {"start": "00:40:51", "end": "00:40:56", "text": "and I remembered that and it was like I"}, {"start": "00:40:53", "end": "00:40:59", "text": "just remembered that. Well, I'm at work"}, {"start": "00:40:56", "end": "00:41:00", "text": "9:00 a.m. I get a call that my grandpa"}, {"start": "00:40:59", "end": "00:41:02", "text": "has been"}, {"start": "00:41:00", "end": "00:41:04", "text": "transferred from his nursing facility"}, {"start": "00:41:02", "end": "00:41:08", "text": "into the hospital because"}, {"start": "00:41:04", "end": "00:41:09", "text": "he died. His heart had stopped. And so"}, {"start": "00:41:08", "end": "00:41:10", "text": "they went into his room, but by the time"}, {"start": "00:41:09", "end": "00:41:13", "text": "they got into his room his heartbeat had"}, {"start": "00:41:10", "end": "00:41:14", "text": "come back. He was alive. And but they"}, {"start": "00:41:13", "end": "00:41:16", "text": "transferred him to the hospital so that"}, {"start": "00:41:14", "end": "00:41:18", "text": "they could monitor him more closely. And"}, {"start": "00:41:16", "end": "00:41:19", "text": "he was getting close He was basically"}, {"start": "00:41:18", "end": "00:41:21", "text": "needed to be on hospice."}, {"start": "00:41:19", "end": "00:41:24", "text": "And so"}, {"start": "00:41:21", "end": "00:41:26", "text": "So I'm about to go to the Olmec realm"}, {"start": "00:41:24", "end": "00:41:29", "text": "for 3 weeks"}, {"start": "00:41:26", "end": "00:41:31", "text": "and I live like 7 hours away, like 7"}, {"start": "00:41:29", "end": "00:41:33", "text": "hour drive, but I know I knew that if I"}, {"start": "00:41:31", "end": "00:41:34", "text": "didn't go see my grandpa I wasn't going"}, {"start": "00:41:33", "end": "00:41:35", "text": "to see him when I got back from Mexico."}, {"start": "00:41:34", "end": "00:41:36", "text": ">> [snorts]"}, {"start": "00:41:35", "end": "00:41:39", "text": ">> So I drove"}, {"start": "00:41:36", "end": "00:41:41", "text": "from I drove from San Antonio back home"}, {"start": "00:41:39", "end": "00:41:42", "text": "and"}, {"start": "00:41:41", "end": "00:41:44", "text": "went to go visit him and I was there"}, {"start": "00:41:42", "end": "00:41:46", "text": "with my grandma and you know, there were"}, {"start": "00:41:44", "end": "00:41:48", "text": "nurses and doctors and people coming in"}, {"start": "00:41:46", "end": "00:41:50", "text": "and out and you know, my grandpa's there"}, {"start": "00:41:48", "end": "00:41:52", "text": "and he's like sentient. I It was funny."}, {"start": "00:41:50", "end": "00:41:53", "text": "He he could not remember anything in the"}, {"start": "00:41:52", "end": "00:41:56", "text": "short term, but he could always talk"}, {"start": "00:41:53", "end": "00:41:58", "text": "about his past and he knew who you were."}, {"start": "00:41:56", "end": "00:41:59", "text": "Like he didn't forget you, but if you if"}, {"start": "00:41:58", "end": "00:42:01", "text": "you showed him a picture it wouldn't"}, {"start": "00:41:59", "end": "00:42:03", "text": "connect, but if you were there in person"}, {"start": "00:42:01", "end": "00:42:04", "text": "he would he would remember you."}, {"start": "00:42:03", "end": "00:42:05", "text": "And"}, {"start": "00:42:04", "end": "00:42:06", "text": "so [clears throat]"}, {"start": "00:42:05", "end": "00:42:08", "text": "there's all these nurses and people"}, {"start": "00:42:06", "end": "00:42:10", "text": "coming in and people wanting to like"}, {"start": "00:42:08", "end": "00:42:11", "text": "talk to my grandma and talk to me and"}, {"start": "00:42:10", "end": "00:42:12", "text": "mean, I never really got this like quiet"}, {"start": "00:42:11", "end": "00:42:14", "text": "moment with him, but we're there for a"}, {"start": "00:42:12", "end": "00:42:15", "text": "couple hours and"}, {"start": "00:42:14", "end": "00:42:17", "text": "we're never left alone. So, we're about"}, {"start": "00:42:15", "end": "00:42:19", "text": "to leave and uh I'm getting on the"}, {"start": "00:42:17", "end": "00:42:21", "text": "elevator and I'm just like"}, {"start": "00:42:19", "end": "00:42:22", "text": "nah, it's not enough of a goodbye. Like,"}, {"start": "00:42:21", "end": "00:42:24", "text": "I didn't get a moment with him. So, I"}, {"start": "00:42:22", "end": "00:42:25", "text": "hand my grandma my jacket and I walk"}, {"start": "00:42:24", "end": "00:42:26", "text": "back in there"}, {"start": "00:42:25", "end": "00:42:28", "text": "and um"}, {"start": "00:42:26", "end": "00:42:30", "text": "it's just it's just he and I there and"}, {"start": "00:42:28", "end": "00:42:33", "text": "um"}, {"start": "00:42:30", "end": "00:42:33", "text": "uh"}, {"start": "00:42:35", "end": "00:42:40", "text": "I haven't really really told the story."}, {"start": "00:42:38", "end": "00:42:42", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "00:42:40", "end": "00:42:45", "text": "you know, golly, man."}, {"start": "00:42:42", "end": "00:42:45", "text": "I uh"}, {"start": "00:42:46", "end": "00:42:50", "text": "you know, I just knew that like that was"}, {"start": "00:42:48", "end": "00:42:51", "text": "my last moment with him, you know?"}, {"start": "00:42:50", "end": "00:42:53", "text": "And I was lucky that I got that. What"}, {"start": "00:42:51", "end": "00:42:53", "text": "did you talk about?"}, {"start": "00:42:53", "end": "00:42:54", "text": ">> [snorts]"}, {"start": "00:42:53", "end": "00:42:56", "text": ">> Uh"}, {"start": "00:42:54", "end": "00:42:58", "text": "You are lucky you got that. Yeah. So"}, {"start": "00:42:56", "end": "00:43:00", "text": "many of us don't."}, {"start": "00:42:58", "end": "00:43:00", "text": "What did you talk about?"}, {"start": "00:43:00", "end": "00:43:01", "text": ">> [snorts]"}, {"start": "00:43:00", "end": "00:43:03", "text": ">> Uh I just told him like I just asked"}, {"start": "00:43:01", "end": "00:43:05", "text": "him, I said uh"}, {"start": "00:43:03", "end": "00:43:07", "text": "I said, \"You remember all those Westerns"}, {"start": "00:43:05", "end": "00:43:09", "text": "that you made me watch with you? Like,"}, {"start": "00:43:07", "end": "00:43:10", "text": "Gunsmoke.\" Gunsmoke was on the TV behind"}, {"start": "00:43:09", "end": "00:43:14", "text": "me."}, {"start": "00:43:10", "end": "00:43:14", "text": "He was like, \"Yeah.\" And I said uh"}, {"start": "00:43:15", "end": "00:43:19", "text": "I said, \"You remember all the times"}, {"start": "00:43:16", "end": "00:43:20", "text": "you'd like talk to me about the Bible"}, {"start": "00:43:19", "end": "00:43:21", "text": "and the ancient world and everything?\""}, {"start": "00:43:20", "end": "00:43:23", "text": "He said, \"Yeah.\""}, {"start": "00:43:21", "end": "00:43:24", "text": "And I said uh I was like looking him in"}, {"start": "00:43:23", "end": "00:43:27", "text": "his eyes. I was like I was like, \"I'm"}, {"start": "00:43:24", "end": "00:43:28", "text": "never going to forget that. Like, it's"}, {"start": "00:43:27", "end": "00:43:29", "text": "you know, so important to me.\""}, {"start": "00:43:28", "end": "00:43:30", "text": ">> [snorts]"}, {"start": "00:43:29", "end": "00:43:32", "text": ">> And I said uh I said, \"I love you.\" And"}, {"start": "00:43:30", "end": "00:43:34", "text": "he said, he said, \"I love you, too.\" And"}, {"start": "00:43:32", "end": "00:43:35", "text": "I said, \"Do you know you're talking to?\""}, {"start": "00:43:34", "end": "00:43:37", "text": "And he looked at me and he said my full"}, {"start": "00:43:35", "end": "00:43:40", "text": "name to me. And so, I knew he was there"}, {"start": "00:43:37", "end": "00:43:43", "text": "with me. And uh"}, {"start": "00:43:40", "end": "00:43:45", "text": "I leaned over him just like crying."}, {"start": "00:43:43", "end": "00:43:45", "text": "You leaned over him crying just like you"}, {"start": "00:43:45", "end": "00:43:46", "text": "did"}, {"start": "00:43:45", "end": "00:43:48", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. I leaned over him I was on"}, {"start": "00:43:46", "end": "00:43:51", "text": "the left side of the bed."}, {"start": "00:43:48", "end": "00:43:52", "text": "And uh and I I kissed him and I said and"}, {"start": "00:43:51", "end": "00:43:54", "text": "I told him"}, {"start": "00:43:52", "end": "00:43:57", "text": "I said I said, \"I'm going to miss you so"}, {"start": "00:43:54", "end": "00:43:59", "text": "much.\" And I don't know how many people"}, {"start": "00:43:57", "end": "00:44:01", "text": "actually"}, {"start": "00:43:59", "end": "00:44:02", "text": "in their last moment have their loved"}, {"start": "00:44:01", "end": "00:44:04", "text": "one acknowledge the fact that they're"}, {"start": "00:44:02", "end": "00:44:06", "text": "about to die."}, {"start": "00:44:04", "end": "00:44:08", "text": "But, I just I"}, {"start": "00:44:06", "end": "00:44:09", "text": "I just had to actually be real, you"}, {"start": "00:44:08", "end": "00:44:11", "text": "know? Like"}, {"start": "00:44:09", "end": "00:44:14", "text": "I think we try to be like subtle for"}, {"start": "00:44:11", "end": "00:44:15", "text": "some reason, you know?"}, {"start": "00:44:14", "end": "00:44:16", "text": "And not just acknowledge the reality,"}, {"start": "00:44:15", "end": "00:44:18", "text": "but I just had to. I just had to"}, {"start": "00:44:16", "end": "00:44:20", "text": "actually tell him goodbye."}, {"start": "00:44:18", "end": "00:44:21", "text": "And so uh"}, {"start": "00:44:20", "end": "00:44:22", "text": "And so I'm"}, {"start": "00:44:21", "end": "00:44:23", "text": ">> Was he Was he aware of what was going"}, {"start": "00:44:22", "end": "00:44:25", "text": "on?"}, {"start": "00:44:23", "end": "00:44:27", "text": "Yeah, yeah. He must have He must have"}, {"start": "00:44:25", "end": "00:44:29", "text": "known that like I am actually saying"}, {"start": "00:44:27", "end": "00:44:31", "text": "goodbye to you, you know? I know that"}, {"start": "00:44:29", "end": "00:44:34", "text": "I'm not going to ever see you again."}, {"start": "00:44:31", "end": "00:44:35", "text": "And uh and so"}, {"start": "00:44:34", "end": "00:44:37", "text": "um"}, {"start": "00:44:35", "end": "00:44:39", "text": "And so I'm hugging him for like a long"}, {"start": "00:44:37", "end": "00:44:40", "text": "time, like a really long time. By the"}, {"start": "00:44:39", "end": "00:44:42", "text": "time I By the time I I lift my head up,"}, {"start": "00:44:40", "end": "00:44:44", "text": "I think that he had kind of fallen"}, {"start": "00:44:42", "end": "00:44:45", "text": "asleep a little bit, but he was there"}, {"start": "00:44:44", "end": "00:44:47", "text": "with him with me while I was talking to"}, {"start": "00:44:45", "end": "00:44:50", "text": "him. And so I'm I walked out of the room"}, {"start": "00:44:47", "end": "00:44:51", "text": "and um my grandma and I went went got"}, {"start": "00:44:50", "end": "00:44:53", "text": "something to eat. And then by the time"}, {"start": "00:44:51", "end": "00:44:55", "text": "we got home, she got a call from the"}, {"start": "00:44:53", "end": "00:44:58", "text": "hospital that he passed away. And uh and"}, {"start": "00:44:55", "end": "00:44:59", "text": "I always wondered if"}, {"start": "00:44:58", "end": "00:45:02", "text": "if like that was the moment where he"}, {"start": "00:44:59", "end": "00:45:04", "text": "just he could let go, you know? Like"}, {"start": "00:45:02", "end": "00:45:06", "text": "somebody actually told him that that"}, {"start": "00:45:04", "end": "00:45:07", "text": "that I know you're dying and that I'm"}, {"start": "00:45:06", "end": "00:45:08", "text": "going to miss you and that I loved you"}, {"start": "00:45:07", "end": "00:45:11", "text": "and like acknowledge his existence,"}, {"start": "00:45:08", "end": "00:45:13", "text": "right? Like he knew that his existence"}, {"start": "00:45:11", "end": "00:45:14", "text": "was witnessed and loved and appreciated"}, {"start": "00:45:13", "end": "00:45:15", "text": "and he could"}, {"start": "00:45:14", "end": "00:45:16", "text": "go."}, {"start": "00:45:15", "end": "00:45:18", "text": "And I've spent a lot of time like"}, {"start": "00:45:16", "end": "00:45:20", "text": "looking into that and and uh apparently"}, {"start": "00:45:18", "end": "00:45:22", "text": "that's a that's a common phenomenon."}, {"start": "00:45:20", "end": "00:45:24", "text": "Like sometimes when people when they"}, {"start": "00:45:22", "end": "00:45:26", "text": "when they have an actual heart-to-heart"}, {"start": "00:45:24", "end": "00:45:28", "text": "conversation in their last moments, it"}, {"start": "00:45:26", "end": "00:45:30", "text": "makes them feel complete. They don't"}, {"start": "00:45:28", "end": "00:45:30", "text": "feel the need to hold on anymore."}, {"start": "00:45:30", "end": "00:45:32", "text": "And uh"}, {"start": "00:45:30", "end": "00:45:33", "text": ">> you're okay. They come to grips"}, {"start": "00:45:32", "end": "00:45:35", "text": "[clears throat] with where they are."}, {"start": "00:45:33", "end": "00:45:37", "text": "Yeah, so uh"}, {"start": "00:45:35", "end": "00:45:39", "text": "So that was like a"}, {"start": "00:45:37", "end": "00:45:42", "text": "that dream that I had a week earlier."}, {"start": "00:45:39", "end": "00:45:43", "text": "When he died, his heart stopped at like"}, {"start": "00:45:42", "end": "00:45:45", "text": "1:00 in the morning. That's when I had"}, {"start": "00:45:43", "end": "00:45:48", "text": "that dream and I woke up."}, {"start": "00:45:45", "end": "00:45:50", "text": "Man, there's there's no"}, {"start": "00:45:48", "end": "00:45:52", "text": "you know? I I I am a Christian. I'm like"}, {"start": "00:45:50", "end": "00:45:53", "text": "an an Orthodox Christian, but even if I"}, {"start": "00:45:52", "end": "00:45:55", "text": "was an atheist, that would change"}, {"start": "00:45:53", "end": "00:45:58", "text": "everything for me. Like it was it was"}, {"start": "00:45:55", "end": "00:46:00", "text": "that profound of of an experience."}, {"start": "00:45:58", "end": "00:46:02", "text": "And um"}, {"start": "00:46:00", "end": "00:46:03", "text": "So I went to the Olmec world. I I I was"}, {"start": "00:46:02", "end": "00:46:06", "text": "there for the week. I had to like plan"}, {"start": "00:46:03", "end": "00:46:08", "text": "his funeral and everything and"}, {"start": "00:46:06", "end": "00:46:10", "text": "yeah, it was tough. And then I went to I"}, {"start": "00:46:08", "end": "00:46:12", "text": "went to Mexico and then right after that"}, {"start": "00:46:10", "end": "00:46:13", "text": "I turned around and went to Peru."}, {"start": "00:46:12", "end": "00:46:14", "text": "And um"}, {"start": "00:46:13", "end": "00:46:16", "text": "the very [clears throat] first time I"}, {"start": "00:46:14", "end": "00:46:18", "text": "ever saw Machu Picchu"}, {"start": "00:46:16", "end": "00:46:21", "text": "was in [snorts] this coffee table book"}, {"start": "00:46:18", "end": "00:46:22", "text": "called Lost Cities and it was a"}, {"start": "00:46:21", "end": "00:46:25", "text": "collection that was produced by Barnes &"}, {"start": "00:46:22", "end": "00:46:28", "text": "Noble. Produ- uh published and printed"}, {"start": "00:46:25", "end": "00:46:31", "text": "in August 1997. That's when I was born."}, {"start": "00:46:28", "end": "00:46:33", "text": "And uh"}, {"start": "00:46:31", "end": "00:46:36", "text": "And so my grandpa, he that was his book."}, {"start": "00:46:33", "end": "00:46:38", "text": "He would always read that to me. And um"}, {"start": "00:46:36", "end": "00:46:40", "text": "you know, gosh, from the"}, {"start": "00:46:38", "end": "00:46:41", "text": "from the time I was a young kid, he"}, {"start": "00:46:40", "end": "00:46:43", "text": "would he would flip through the pages"}, {"start": "00:46:41", "end": "00:46:44", "text": "and what's funny is I still have that"}, {"start": "00:46:43", "end": "00:46:47", "text": "book. I stole it from him when I was a"}, {"start": "00:46:44", "end": "00:46:49", "text": "teenager. Um I still have that book and"}, {"start": "00:46:47", "end": "00:46:51", "text": "if I go it's it's cool now flipping"}, {"start": "00:46:49", "end": "00:46:52", "text": "through all those. I was maybe a year"}, {"start": "00:46:51", "end": "00:46:53", "text": "ago I was going through it with my wife"}, {"start": "00:46:52", "end": "00:46:54", "text": "and I was like, \"I've been there now."}, {"start": "00:46:53", "end": "00:46:55", "text": "I've been there now. I've been there"}, {"start": "00:46:54", "end": "00:46:57", "text": "now.\" There's only a few places in that"}, {"start": "00:46:55", "end": "00:46:59", "text": "book I haven't been now. But the one I"}, {"start": "00:46:57", "end": "00:47:01", "text": "was always captivated by is is Machu"}, {"start": "00:46:59", "end": "00:47:01", "text": "Picchu. And um"}, {"start": "00:47:01", "end": "00:47:03", "text": ">> [clears throat]"}, {"start": "00:47:01", "end": "00:47:05", "text": ">> right where all these iconic photos are"}, {"start": "00:47:03", "end": "00:47:08", "text": "taken"}, {"start": "00:47:05", "end": "00:47:11", "text": "I'm standing there and uh"}, {"start": "00:47:08", "end": "00:47:13", "text": "and I I remember thinking to myself, I'm"}, {"start": "00:47:11", "end": "00:47:14", "text": "like, \"This is the only place I've ever"}, {"start": "00:47:13", "end": "00:47:17", "text": "been"}, {"start": "00:47:14", "end": "00:47:19", "text": "other than other than Hawaii that is"}, {"start": "00:47:17", "end": "00:47:21", "text": "actually looks like the photos.\" You go"}, {"start": "00:47:19", "end": "00:47:22", "text": "to you go to Egypt, there's this massive"}, {"start": "00:47:21", "end": "00:47:25", "text": "met- metropolitan city behind you."}, {"start": "00:47:22", "end": "00:47:26", "text": "You're not in the desert, right? Um and"}, {"start": "00:47:25", "end": "00:47:29", "text": "this is the only place I've ever been to"}, {"start": "00:47:26", "end": "00:47:32", "text": "that actually looks and feels like all"}, {"start": "00:47:29", "end": "00:47:33", "text": "the photos that you've seen. And lives"}, {"start": "00:47:32", "end": "00:47:35", "text": "up to the photo. It's actually way"}, {"start": "00:47:33", "end": "00:47:36", "text": "better. That's why I always I'm always"}, {"start": "00:47:35", "end": "00:47:38", "text": "like, \"Yeah, if you can only go to like"}, {"start": "00:47:36", "end": "00:47:39", "text": "Peru or Egypt, I'd go to Peru cuz it's"}, {"start": "00:47:38", "end": "00:47:40", "text": "amazing.\""}, {"start": "00:47:39", "end": "00:47:41", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "00:47:40", "end": "00:47:43", "text": "but uh"}, {"start": "00:47:41", "end": "00:47:45", "text": "I'm standing there and I'm like, \"Wow,"}, {"start": "00:47:43", "end": "00:47:46", "text": "this is really really amazing.\" I reach"}, {"start": "00:47:45", "end": "00:47:47", "text": "in I reach in my pocket and pull out my"}, {"start": "00:47:46", "end": "00:47:51", "text": "phone"}, {"start": "00:47:47", "end": "00:47:51", "text": "and it's opened up to iCloud email. And"}, {"start": "00:47:51", "end": "00:47:55", "text": "uh"}, {"start": "00:47:51", "end": "00:47:57", "text": "I don't use iCloud email. I've got 4,500"}, {"start": "00:47:55", "end": "00:47:58", "text": "emails I haven't opened up here that are"}, {"start": "00:47:57", "end": "00:48:01", "text": "all just spam."}, {"start": "00:47:58", "end": "00:48:03", "text": "And it's already selected a recipient"}, {"start": "00:48:01", "end": "00:48:04", "text": "and the little thing is blinking for me"}, {"start": "00:48:03", "end": "00:48:08", "text": "to start typing."}, {"start": "00:48:04", "end": "00:48:10", "text": "And the recipient was my grandfather"}, {"start": "00:48:08", "end": "00:48:12", "text": "43@yahoo.com."}, {"start": "00:48:10", "end": "00:48:14", "text": "It was It was his It was his email."}, {"start": "00:48:12", "end": "00:48:15", "text": "I'd never sent him an email. I don't But"}, {"start": "00:48:14", "end": "00:48:17", "text": "it really really was his email. Somehow"}, {"start": "00:48:15", "end": "00:48:20", "text": "it was in my phone."}, {"start": "00:48:17", "end": "00:48:21", "text": "And it was like he would It was like he"}, {"start": "00:48:20", "end": "00:48:23", "text": "was Yes, he was."}, {"start": "00:48:21", "end": "00:48:25", "text": ">> touching me from the next world, you"}, {"start": "00:48:23", "end": "00:48:27", "text": "know? And uh letting me know that he was"}, {"start": "00:48:25", "end": "00:48:30", "text": "there. And I was just I was in the place"}, {"start": "00:48:27", "end": "00:48:31", "text": "where the photo was taken that's printed"}, {"start": "00:48:30", "end": "00:48:32", "text": "in that book."}, {"start": "00:48:31", "end": "00:48:34", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:48:32", "end": "00:48:37", "text": "And um"}, {"start": "00:48:34", "end": "00:48:38", "text": "yeah, it was profound profound, man. And"}, {"start": "00:48:37", "end": "00:48:40", "text": "uh"}, {"start": "00:48:38", "end": "00:48:40", "text": "you know"}, {"start": "00:48:40", "end": "00:48:43", "text": "that's like all the confirmation I need"}, {"start": "00:48:41", "end": "00:48:45", "text": "that there's something more beyond all"}, {"start": "00:48:43", "end": "00:48:46", "text": "of this, you know?"}, {"start": "00:48:45", "end": "00:48:48", "text": "I totally agree."}, {"start": "00:48:46", "end": "00:48:49", "text": "Um I heard you say that you were going"}, {"start": "00:48:48", "end": "00:48:50", "text": "to go to grad school in Athens and"}, {"start": "00:48:49", "end": "00:48:52", "text": "something in the job made you change"}, {"start": "00:48:50", "end": "00:48:53", "text": "your mind."}, {"start": "00:48:52", "end": "00:48:55", "text": "Yeah. [clears throat]"}, {"start": "00:48:53", "end": "00:48:55", "text": "Uh"}, {"start": "00:48:56", "end": "00:48:59", "text": "I was uh"}, {"start": "00:48:59", "end": "00:49:03", "text": "You know what You know what's"}, {"start": "00:49:00", "end": "00:49:03", "text": "interesting is"}, {"start": "00:49:05", "end": "00:49:08", "text": "me starting my"}, {"start": "00:49:07", "end": "00:49:10", "text": "career"}, {"start": "00:49:08", "end": "00:49:12", "text": "and being independent from like the very"}, {"start": "00:49:10", "end": "00:49:14", "text": "beginning. I never worked for a"}, {"start": "00:49:12", "end": "00:49:15", "text": "university or anything like that."}, {"start": "00:49:14", "end": "00:49:18", "text": "All of my"}, {"start": "00:49:15", "end": "00:49:20", "text": "flaws and missteps and"}, {"start": "00:49:18", "end": "00:49:21", "text": "things that I said when I was"}, {"start": "00:49:20", "end": "00:49:23", "text": "Yeah, I'm 28 now, but things I said when"}, {"start": "00:49:21", "end": "00:49:24", "text": "I was 25 when I'm still trying to figure"}, {"start": "00:49:23", "end": "00:49:26", "text": "out. It's all publicly documented."}, {"start": "00:49:24", "end": "00:49:29", "text": "People get to watch me progress over"}, {"start": "00:49:26", "end": "00:49:32", "text": "time. I feel like just now I'm kind of"}, {"start": "00:49:29", "end": "00:49:34", "text": "getting it all together, right? Um"}, {"start": "00:49:32", "end": "00:49:36", "text": "and so you know, I would go through"}, {"start": "00:49:34", "end": "00:49:37", "text": "these phases where"}, {"start": "00:49:36", "end": "00:49:39", "text": "when I first [clears throat] started"}, {"start": "00:49:37", "end": "00:49:41", "text": "this journey, I was so heavily"}, {"start": "00:49:39", "end": "00:49:42", "text": "influenced by I saw you had a Graham"}, {"start": "00:49:41", "end": "00:49:45", "text": "Hancock book around here somewhere."}, {"start": "00:49:42", "end": "00:49:47", "text": "Sure. So heavily So heavily influenced"}, {"start": "00:49:45", "end": "00:49:49", "text": "by Graham Hancock. That's as far as"}, {"start": "00:49:47", "end": "00:49:50", "text": "actually reading,"}, {"start": "00:49:49", "end": "00:49:52", "text": "um"}, {"start": "00:49:50", "end": "00:49:55", "text": "I'd say Fingerprints is probably like"}, {"start": "00:49:52", "end": "00:49:57", "text": "the first book I read where I remember I"}, {"start": "00:49:55", "end": "00:49:58", "text": "had this big old book in front of me and"}, {"start": "00:49:57", "end": "00:49:59", "text": "my mom would be like, \"What are you"}, {"start": "00:49:58", "end": "00:50:01", "text": "reading?\" And I was like I was like,"}, {"start": "00:49:59", "end": "00:50:02", "text": "\"I'm reading something like a historical"}, {"start": "00:50:01", "end": "00:50:04", "text": "textbook.\" Cuz that you know the the"}, {"start": "00:50:02", "end": "00:50:07", "text": "verbage is very up there for me at 16 or"}, {"start": "00:50:04", "end": "00:50:08", "text": "something and and as far as reading and"}, {"start": "00:50:07", "end": "00:50:10", "text": "really"}, {"start": "00:50:08", "end": "00:50:11", "text": "putting"}, {"start": "00:50:10", "end": "00:50:13", "text": "effort into diving into the ancient"}, {"start": "00:50:11", "end": "00:50:16", "text": "world started with Graham Hancock and it"}, {"start": "00:50:13", "end": "00:50:18", "text": "gave me this idea of like this wide open"}, {"start": "00:50:16", "end": "00:50:20", "text": "ancient world of all these possibilities"}, {"start": "00:50:18", "end": "00:50:22", "text": "and mysteries and the wonder of of these"}, {"start": "00:50:20", "end": "00:50:24", "text": "ancient sites. That's the big word,"}, {"start": "00:50:22", "end": "00:50:26", "text": "possibilities. That's what he created."}, {"start": "00:50:24", "end": "00:50:28", "text": ">> Yeah, exactly. Exactly. And I know that"}, {"start": "00:50:26", "end": "00:50:30", "text": "there were people that came before him,"}, {"start": "00:50:28", "end": "00:50:32", "text": "but I don't think anybody did it as well"}, {"start": "00:50:30", "end": "00:50:35", "text": "as he did. And I may I may step on toes"}, {"start": "00:50:32", "end": "00:50:37", "text": "by saying that, but I Graham Hancock"}, {"start": "00:50:35", "end": "00:50:40", "text": "captured and presented things in a way"}, {"start": "00:50:37", "end": "00:50:42", "text": "that was plausible. You know, it didn't"}, {"start": "00:50:40", "end": "00:50:43", "text": "wasn't filled with like fantasy. You're"}, {"start": "00:50:42", "end": "00:50:44", "text": "not reading these books necessarily and"}, {"start": "00:50:43", "end": "00:50:45", "text": "and"}, {"start": "00:50:44", "end": "00:50:49", "text": ">> telling a story."}, {"start": "00:50:45", "end": "00:50:51", "text": ">> Yeah, exactly. And so it filled me with"}, {"start": "00:50:49", "end": "00:50:53", "text": "this wonder of the ancient world, the"}, {"start": "00:50:51", "end": "00:50:55", "text": "possibility."}, {"start": "00:50:53", "end": "00:50:57", "text": "And so I devoured Graham Hancock's book."}, {"start": "00:50:55", "end": "00:51:00", "text": "I even read Underworld,"}, {"start": "00:50:57", "end": "00:51:00", "text": "which is a great book. And"}, {"start": "00:51:00", "end": "00:51:03", "text": ">> [clears throat]"}, {"start": "00:51:00", "end": "00:51:03", "text": ">> so from there"}, {"start": "00:51:03", "end": "00:51:08", "text": "ancient history is kind of like a"}, {"start": "00:51:05", "end": "00:51:10", "text": "like a pastime. It's like my side thing"}, {"start": "00:51:08", "end": "00:51:11", "text": "where I'm just watching videos about it"}, {"start": "00:51:10", "end": "00:51:12", "text": "on YouTube or reading about it. Never"}, {"start": "00:51:11", "end": "00:51:14", "text": "really"}, {"start": "00:51:12", "end": "00:51:15", "text": "never really thought I could actually do"}, {"start": "00:51:14", "end": "00:51:16", "text": "this as a job. What was your main thing?"}, {"start": "00:51:15", "end": "00:51:17", "text": "[snorts]"}, {"start": "00:51:16", "end": "00:51:20", "text": "Um marketing. [clears throat]"}, {"start": "00:51:17", "end": "00:51:21", "text": "My mom is a creative. She was a she was"}, {"start": "00:51:20", "end": "00:51:22", "text": "like a"}, {"start": "00:51:21", "end": "00:51:23", "text": "Yeah, she [snorts] was like a"}, {"start": "00:51:22", "end": "00:51:26", "text": "high-ranking"}, {"start": "00:51:23", "end": "00:51:28", "text": "creative at a place called Brookshire's"}, {"start": "00:51:26", "end": "00:51:30", "text": "grocery store. It's I don't even know"}, {"start": "00:51:28", "end": "00:51:32", "text": "what to what to equivalent it to or out"}, {"start": "00:51:30", "end": "00:51:34", "text": "here, but um"}, {"start": "00:51:32", "end": "00:51:36", "text": "Yeah, so she she was like creative. And"}, {"start": "00:51:34", "end": "00:51:38", "text": "I think actually history and and the"}, {"start": "00:51:36", "end": "00:51:41", "text": "creative world they kind of go together"}, {"start": "00:51:38", "end": "00:51:43", "text": "like uh people who are historians are"}, {"start": "00:51:41", "end": "00:51:44", "text": "more artistic than they are like numbers"}, {"start": "00:51:43", "end": "00:51:45", "text": "oriented, right? Like a lot of people"}, {"start": "00:51:44", "end": "00:51:46", "text": "who are numbers people, they don't"}, {"start": "00:51:45", "end": "00:51:48", "text": "really"}, {"start": "00:51:46", "end": "00:51:50", "text": "history doesn't really click with them"}, {"start": "00:51:48", "end": "00:51:51", "text": "because history's not as defined or it's"}, {"start": "00:51:50", "end": "00:51:52", "text": "not as neat, right? It's a story."}, {"start": "00:51:51", "end": "00:51:55", "text": "History is a story."}, {"start": "00:51:52", "end": "00:51:57", "text": ">> Yeah, exactly. And so, um"}, {"start": "00:51:55", "end": "00:51:59", "text": "so yeah, history and and art went"}, {"start": "00:51:57", "end": "00:52:01", "text": "together. But to be honest with you, I I"}, {"start": "00:51:59", "end": "00:52:02", "text": "didn't I wasn't in love with marketing."}, {"start": "00:52:01", "end": "00:52:05", "text": "It was just kind of one of those things"}, {"start": "00:52:02", "end": "00:52:07", "text": "where I would Google like, \"How much"}, {"start": "00:52:05", "end": "00:52:10", "text": "does such and such job pay?\" You know,"}, {"start": "00:52:07", "end": "00:52:12", "text": "like, \"Oh, okay.\" And uh so, I'm getting"}, {"start": "00:52:10", "end": "00:52:14", "text": "my this marketing degree in in school"}, {"start": "00:52:12", "end": "00:52:17", "text": "and"}, {"start": "00:52:14", "end": "00:52:18", "text": "I don't love it. And everything that"}, {"start": "00:52:17", "end": "00:52:19", "text": "they're teaching in school, I already"}, {"start": "00:52:18", "end": "00:52:21", "text": "know is like, \"Well, you know, I"}, {"start": "00:52:19", "end": "00:52:22", "text": "actually use this other"}, {"start": "00:52:21", "end": "00:52:24", "text": "I actually use this other platform,"}, {"start": "00:52:22", "end": "00:52:25", "text": "which I think is better, and I already"}, {"start": "00:52:24", "end": "00:52:27", "text": "know how to do what you're teaching me"}, {"start": "00:52:25", "end": "00:52:29", "text": "to do.\" And I just didn't care. And so,"}, {"start": "00:52:27", "end": "00:52:32", "text": "I'm flunking out all my classes. I've"}, {"start": "00:52:29", "end": "00:52:33", "text": "got like a 1.7 GPA in junior college."}, {"start": "00:52:32", "end": "00:52:34", "text": "They're putting me on academic"}, {"start": "00:52:33", "end": "00:52:36", "text": "suspension."}, {"start": "00:52:34", "end": "00:52:39", "text": "I don't have the will to like actually"}, {"start": "00:52:36", "end": "00:52:41", "text": "continue school. Uh and all the while,"}, {"start": "00:52:39", "end": "00:52:43", "text": "my my girlfriend at the time, who's my"}, {"start": "00:52:41", "end": "00:52:44", "text": "wife now, she's like a pre-dental"}, {"start": "00:52:43", "end": "00:52:45", "text": "student. So, she's like this"}, {"start": "00:52:44", "end": "00:52:48", "text": "high-achieving She's crushing it. I'm"}, {"start": "00:52:45", "end": "00:52:50", "text": "like way down here, right? And um"}, {"start": "00:52:48", "end": "00:52:51", "text": "so, [clears throat]"}, {"start": "00:52:50", "end": "00:52:53", "text": "I end up realizing like it all kind of"}, {"start": "00:52:51", "end": "00:52:54", "text": "comes to a head and my and my dad is"}, {"start": "00:52:53", "end": "00:52:56", "text": "like My dad's like, \"I'm going to have"}, {"start": "00:52:54", "end": "00:52:58", "text": "to let you go. Like, I can't I can't"}, {"start": "00:52:56", "end": "00:53:00", "text": "financially help you anymore because"}, {"start": "00:52:58", "end": "00:53:02", "text": "you're not even You're not even doing"}, {"start": "00:53:00", "end": "00:53:03", "text": "anything, you know?\" And so, it all sort"}, {"start": "00:53:02", "end": "00:53:05", "text": "of came to a head."}, {"start": "00:53:03", "end": "00:53:06", "text": ">> Well, did you agree?"}, {"start": "00:53:05", "end": "00:53:08", "text": "Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was I was like"}, {"start": "00:53:06", "end": "00:53:10", "text": "deeply I was like deeply ashamed. Like,"}, {"start": "00:53:08", "end": "00:53:12", "text": "I I I told my dad, and what's funny is"}, {"start": "00:53:10", "end": "00:53:13", "text": "like, a lot of times my dad, he he can"}, {"start": "00:53:12", "end": "00:53:15", "text": "be like a lecturer. Like, he'll really"}, {"start": "00:53:13", "end": "00:53:17", "text": "lay it on thick. And that that I was"}, {"start": "00:53:15", "end": "00:53:19", "text": "funny, this time he didn't because he"}, {"start": "00:53:17", "end": "00:53:20", "text": "knew He could tell how I just I was"}, {"start": "00:53:19", "end": "00:53:22", "text": "like, I"}, {"start": "00:53:20", "end": "00:53:24", "text": "I He did you a favor. Yeah, yeah, yeah."}, {"start": "00:53:22", "end": "00:53:26", "text": "And so, um"}, {"start": "00:53:24", "end": "00:53:28", "text": "and so, I told my girlfriend at the"}, {"start": "00:53:26", "end": "00:53:30", "text": "time, who's my wife now, I was like, I"}, {"start": "00:53:28", "end": "00:53:32", "text": "was like, \"I'm actually not going to get"}, {"start": "00:53:30", "end": "00:53:33", "text": "a degree or graduate college if I don't"}, {"start": "00:53:32", "end": "00:53:35", "text": "do something that I like and that I'm"}, {"start": "00:53:33", "end": "00:53:38", "text": "good at, even if it's just to get the"}, {"start": "00:53:35", "end": "00:53:41", "text": "degree.\" So, I uh"}, {"start": "00:53:38", "end": "00:53:44", "text": "so, the closest thing to it was uh was"}, {"start": "00:53:41", "end": "00:53:46", "text": "anthropology. And so I um"}, {"start": "00:53:44", "end": "00:53:48", "text": "I appealed to the dean and I'm about to"}, {"start": "00:53:46", "end": "00:53:50", "text": "be on So first they put you on semester"}, {"start": "00:53:48", "end": "00:53:52", "text": "suspension, then they put you on a year."}, {"start": "00:53:50", "end": "00:53:54", "text": "So you got to take a year off of school."}, {"start": "00:53:52", "end": "00:53:55", "text": "So they had put me on a year and I wrote"}, {"start": "00:53:54", "end": "00:53:56", "text": "something to the dean and I was like I"}, {"start": "00:53:55", "end": "00:53:59", "text": "was like listen,"}, {"start": "00:53:56", "end": "00:54:01", "text": "I don't even try because I feel like"}, {"start": "00:53:59", "end": "00:54:04", "text": "cuz I'm just not invested in anything."}, {"start": "00:54:01", "end": "00:54:05", "text": "I want to pursue anthropology and I want"}, {"start": "00:54:04", "end": "00:54:08", "text": "to study these ancient cultures and they"}, {"start": "00:54:05", "end": "00:54:10", "text": "had like uh ancient cultures of uh of"}, {"start": "00:54:08", "end": "00:54:13", "text": "Mexico and Central America. Cuz we're in"}, {"start": "00:54:10", "end": "00:54:15", "text": "Texas, so Texas breeds Mesoamerican"}, {"start": "00:54:13", "end": "00:54:18", "text": "archaeologists. There's tons of them"}, {"start": "00:54:15", "end": "00:54:20", "text": "there. And uh and so the dean's like"}, {"start": "00:54:18", "end": "00:54:22", "text": "\"Okay. Uh well, I want you to write"}, {"start": "00:54:20", "end": "00:54:24", "text": "this, you know, such such paper for me"}, {"start": "00:54:22", "end": "00:54:27", "text": "and let me read it.\" And so and I had to"}, {"start": "00:54:24", "end": "00:54:30", "text": "had all these guidelines, so I wrote it"}, {"start": "00:54:27", "end": "00:54:31", "text": "in like one day and uh and I sent it"}, {"start": "00:54:30", "end": "00:54:33", "text": "back to him and it was it would the"}, {"start": "00:54:31", "end": "00:54:35", "text": "paper was called uh"}, {"start": "00:54:33", "end": "00:54:37", "text": "\"How to how it was it was how 2 million"}, {"start": "00:54:35", "end": "00:54:38", "text": "people disappeared overnight in the"}, {"start": "00:54:37", "end": "00:54:41", "text": "Amazon.\" And it was basically like a"}, {"start": "00:54:38", "end": "00:54:43", "text": "breakdown of every I had already known"}, {"start": "00:54:41", "end": "00:54:45", "text": "of of how the Amazonian people were just"}, {"start": "00:54:43", "end": "00:54:46", "text": "decimated over the course of of a couple"}, {"start": "00:54:45", "end": "00:54:48", "text": "of centuries. You were writing good"}, {"start": "00:54:46", "end": "00:54:49", "text": "YouTube titles back then. Yeah, I guess"}, {"start": "00:54:48", "end": "00:54:51", "text": "[clears throat] so."}, {"start": "00:54:49", "end": "00:54:53", "text": ">> that's a clicker. Yeah, long before I I"}, {"start": "00:54:51", "end": "00:54:55", "text": "ever thought I'd be a YouTuber. When you"}, {"start": "00:54:53", "end": "00:54:56", "text": "were writing that paper, did you feel it"}, {"start": "00:54:55", "end": "00:54:57", "text": "coming through you?"}, {"start": "00:54:56", "end": "00:54:59", "text": "Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:54:57", "end": "00:55:01", "text": ">> I'm supposed to do this. [snorts]"}, {"start": "00:54:59", "end": "00:55:03", "text": "Oh absolutely. And um"}, {"start": "00:55:01", "end": "00:55:04", "text": "one of the things it was around that"}, {"start": "00:55:03", "end": "00:55:07", "text": "time, I don't remember if it was before"}, {"start": "00:55:04", "end": "00:55:09", "text": "or just after this, but my wife and I we"}, {"start": "00:55:07", "end": "00:55:11", "text": "were in my college dorm room and we're"}, {"start": "00:55:09", "end": "00:55:13", "text": "on my laptop and we watched the movie"}, {"start": "00:55:11", "end": "00:55:14", "text": "The Lost City of Z."}, {"start": "00:55:13", "end": "00:55:17", "text": "And"}, {"start": "00:55:14", "end": "00:55:18", "text": "I closed my laptop after that and I my"}, {"start": "00:55:17", "end": "00:55:20", "text": "life was never the same after I watched"}, {"start": "00:55:18", "end": "00:55:22", "text": "that movie. It was just"}, {"start": "00:55:20", "end": "00:55:24", "text": "it was like the final domino had been"}, {"start": "00:55:22", "end": "00:55:26", "text": "pushed over and something about that"}, {"start": "00:55:24", "end": "00:55:28", "text": "guy's journey, about you know, with the"}, {"start": "00:55:26", "end": "00:55:30", "text": "the only reason he took on those"}, {"start": "00:55:28", "end": "00:55:30", "text": "expeditions was to reclaim his family"}, {"start": "00:55:30", "end": "00:55:31", "text": "name."}, {"start": "00:55:30", "end": "00:55:32", "text": ">> This is Percy Fawcett."}, {"start": "00:55:31", "end": "00:55:34", "text": ">> And Percy Fawcett, yeah."}, {"start": "00:55:32", "end": "00:55:36", "text": ">> Had you heard about him before"}, {"start": "00:55:34", "end": "00:55:38", "text": ">> Yeah, I guess, but I but I hadn't read"}, {"start": "00:55:36", "end": "00:55:40", "text": "David Grann's book or anything like"}, {"start": "00:55:38", "end": "00:55:42", "text": "that. Didn't know he was such a badass."}, {"start": "00:55:40", "end": "00:55:43", "text": "Yeah, I didn't really know too much"}, {"start": "00:55:42", "end": "00:55:44", "text": "about him. I didn't really know anything"}, {"start": "00:55:43", "end": "00:55:46", "text": "about the story. I just thought it was"}, {"start": "00:55:44", "end": "00:55:47", "text": "cool."}, {"start": "00:55:46", "end": "00:55:48", "text": "I actually know more about Hiram"}, {"start": "00:55:47", "end": "00:55:50", "text": "Bingham, the discoverer of Machu Picchu,"}, {"start": "00:55:48", "end": "00:55:51", "text": "and and"}, {"start": "00:55:50", "end": "00:55:53", "text": "and something about that guy's story,"}, {"start": "00:55:51", "end": "00:55:56", "text": "just kind of being an underdog and like"}, {"start": "00:55:53", "end": "00:55:58", "text": "wanting to to to prove himself and"}, {"start": "00:55:56", "end": "00:56:00", "text": "I guess he had this"}, {"start": "00:55:58", "end": "00:56:03", "text": "he was a dreamer and he was reaching for"}, {"start": "00:56:00", "end": "00:56:05", "text": "something that that almost didn't exist,"}, {"start": "00:56:03", "end": "00:56:07", "text": "right? And um"}, {"start": "00:56:05", "end": "00:56:09", "text": "and something about that story just"}, {"start": "00:56:07", "end": "00:56:10", "text": "really resonated with me. And I was"}, {"start": "00:56:09", "end": "00:56:12", "text": "never quite the same after I watched"}, {"start": "00:56:10", "end": "00:56:14", "text": "that movie. So, it was either right"}, {"start": "00:56:12", "end": "00:56:16", "text": "after or right before I switched my"}, {"start": "00:56:14", "end": "00:56:19", "text": "major that that happened. And so"}, {"start": "00:56:16", "end": "00:56:21", "text": "anyways, they he reluctantly let me into"}, {"start": "00:56:19", "end": "00:56:23", "text": "the anthropology program and I just"}, {"start": "00:56:21", "end": "00:56:24", "text": "smashed the last year and a half of"}, {"start": "00:56:23", "end": "00:56:26", "text": "school. Yeah, I had like a 4.0. It was"}, {"start": "00:56:24", "end": "00:56:28", "text": "like nothing. I mean, I didn't I didn't"}, {"start": "00:56:26", "end": "00:56:31", "text": "even study."}, {"start": "00:56:28", "end": "00:56:34", "text": "I did, but yeah, so"}, {"start": "00:56:31", "end": "00:56:39", "text": "I made it through school and then"}, {"start": "00:56:34", "end": "00:56:41", "text": "um it was my last semester."}, {"start": "00:56:39", "end": "00:56:42", "text": "Yeah. No, it was my second to last"}, {"start": "00:56:41", "end": "00:56:43", "text": "semester."}, {"start": "00:56:42", "end": "00:56:44", "text": "I uh"}, {"start": "00:56:43", "end": "00:56:46", "text": "Were you [clears throat] thinking about"}, {"start": "00:56:44", "end": "00:56:48", "text": "grad school at that point? Yeah, a"}, {"start": "00:56:46", "end": "00:56:49", "text": "little bit a little bit. It was but it"}, {"start": "00:56:48", "end": "00:56:51", "text": "was my second to last semester and I I"}, {"start": "00:56:49", "end": "00:56:51", "text": "was on YouTube"}, {"start": "00:56:51", "end": "00:56:53", "text": ">> [snorts]"}, {"start": "00:56:51", "end": "00:56:56", "text": ">> and I saw an interview with uh with"}, {"start": "00:56:53", "end": "00:56:57", "text": "Professor Dr. Ed Barnhart and I was like"}, {"start": "00:56:56", "end": "00:57:00", "text": "I was like, \"Oh, I really like this"}, {"start": "00:56:57", "end": "00:57:02", "text": "guy.\" So, I had listened to his uh Lost"}, {"start": "00:57:00", "end": "00:57:04", "text": "Worlds of South America while"}, {"start": "00:57:02", "end": "00:57:05", "text": "I was"}, {"start": "00:57:04", "end": "00:57:07", "text": "maybe it was right before I switched my"}, {"start": "00:57:05", "end": "00:57:09", "text": "major or it was right afterwards. But he"}, {"start": "00:57:07", "end": "00:57:10", "text": "has this great lecture series called"}, {"start": "00:57:09", "end": "00:57:12", "text": "Lost Worlds of South America produced by"}, {"start": "00:57:10", "end": "00:57:14", "text": "The Great Courses. And I had only"}, {"start": "00:57:12", "end": "00:57:16", "text": "listened to the audio of it. I think"}, {"start": "00:57:14", "end": "00:57:18", "text": "later on I I listened I watched the"}, {"start": "00:57:16", "end": "00:57:21", "text": "actual watched the the video. But it was"}, {"start": "00:57:18", "end": "00:57:23", "text": "the way that he told the stories, the"}, {"start": "00:57:21", "end": "00:57:25", "text": "way that he pulled you in and made it"}, {"start": "00:57:23", "end": "00:57:29", "text": "personal, and then he would put his own"}, {"start": "00:57:25", "end": "00:57:32", "text": "personal opinion in the in the episodes."}, {"start": "00:57:29", "end": "00:57:34", "text": "And actually"}, {"start": "00:57:32", "end": "00:57:36", "text": "actually it was my only real exposure to"}, {"start": "00:57:34", "end": "00:57:38", "text": "academics cuz I got my degree during the"}, {"start": "00:57:36", "end": "00:57:40", "text": "whole like COVID thing. So, I never had"}, {"start": "00:57:38", "end": "00:57:42", "text": "a personal relationship. My personal"}, {"start": "00:57:40", "end": "00:57:44", "text": "relationship with a professor was"}, {"start": "00:57:42", "end": "00:57:47", "text": "one-sided and it was this It was this"}, {"start": "00:57:44", "end": "00:57:48", "text": "24-lecture series thing on on South"}, {"start": "00:57:47", "end": "00:57:50", "text": "America. And then eventually I found"}, {"start": "00:57:48", "end": "00:57:53", "text": "Maya to Aztec, his other one that's on"}, {"start": "00:57:50", "end": "00:57:55", "text": "Mesoamerica, and just devoured it both"}, {"start": "00:57:53", "end": "00:57:58", "text": "of those. And actually that was my"}, {"start": "00:57:55", "end": "00:58:00", "text": "exposure to academia. I did not know"}, {"start": "00:57:58", "end": "00:58:02", "text": "And this may be the the way I am why I"}, {"start": "00:58:00", "end": "00:58:05", "text": "am the way I am. I did not know the"}, {"start": "00:58:02", "end": "00:58:06", "text": "cold, sterile, jaded side of academia. I"}, {"start": "00:58:05", "end": "00:58:07", "text": "was"}, {"start": "00:58:06", "end": "00:58:09", "text": "I was never exposed to it. I was only"}, {"start": "00:58:07", "end": "00:58:11", "text": "exposed to"}, {"start": "00:58:09", "end": "00:58:14", "text": "you know, just kind of like doing school"}, {"start": "00:58:11", "end": "00:58:16", "text": "virtually, which was cold in nature, but"}, {"start": "00:58:14", "end": "00:58:17", "text": "but granted it would be that way. But"}, {"start": "00:58:16", "end": "00:58:20", "text": "really the"}, {"start": "00:58:17", "end": "00:58:22", "text": "my main exposure was through Ed"}, {"start": "00:58:20", "end": "00:58:26", "text": "Barnhart, which was so"}, {"start": "00:58:22", "end": "00:58:27", "text": "warm and romantic, right? And uh I still"}, {"start": "00:58:26", "end": "00:58:29", "text": "listen to those lectures today just"}, {"start": "00:58:27", "end": "00:58:30", "text": "because it kind of takes me back to this"}, {"start": "00:58:29", "end": "00:58:30", "text": "like happy place."}, {"start": "00:58:30", "end": "00:58:30", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:58:30", "end": "00:58:31", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:58:30", "end": "00:58:31", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:58:31", "end": "00:58:32", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:58:31", "end": "00:58:32", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:58:32", "end": "00:58:33", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:58:32", "end": "00:58:33", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:58:33", "end": "00:58:34", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:58:33", "end": "00:58:34", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:58:34", "end": "00:58:35", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:58:34", "end": "00:58:37", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:58:35", "end": "00:58:37", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And um"}, {"start": "00:58:37", "end": "00:58:38", "text": ">> [clears throat and cough]"}, {"start": "00:58:37", "end": "00:58:42", "text": ">> so"}, {"start": "00:58:38", "end": "00:58:44", "text": "I'm in my second-to-last semester and"}, {"start": "00:58:42", "end": "00:58:46", "text": "and I start thinking about like, okay,"}, {"start": "00:58:44", "end": "00:58:48", "text": "you know, maybe um I don't think I'm"}, {"start": "00:58:46", "end": "00:58:50", "text": "going to go work for a college because"}, {"start": "00:58:48", "end": "00:58:51", "text": "you don't get to pick the projects you"}, {"start": "00:58:50", "end": "00:58:53", "text": "work on. You're like an actor. You kind"}, {"start": "00:58:51", "end": "00:58:55", "text": "of just take what take what comes to"}, {"start": "00:58:53", "end": "00:58:57", "text": "you. You know, so if I So, if I'm"}, {"start": "00:58:55", "end": "00:58:58", "text": "passionate about the Maya or the Inca,"}, {"start": "00:58:57", "end": "00:59:00", "text": "I'm actually probably going to be"}, {"start": "00:58:58", "end": "00:59:03", "text": "working on like the Cahokia people in"}, {"start": "00:59:00", "end": "00:59:04", "text": "East Texas, which not my passions. And"}, {"start": "00:59:03", "end": "00:59:05", "text": "and I don't want to be forced to do"}, {"start": "00:59:04", "end": "00:59:07", "text": "stuff that's not my passion. So, I start"}, {"start": "00:59:05", "end": "00:59:09", "text": "thinking about like,"}, {"start": "00:59:07", "end": "00:59:10", "text": "\"Well, maybe I can get into YouTube.\""}, {"start": "00:59:09", "end": "00:59:12", "text": "And what's funny, I've never said this"}, {"start": "00:59:10", "end": "00:59:13", "text": "before. Um"}, {"start": "00:59:12", "end": "00:59:15", "text": "I used to love the Brave Wilderness"}, {"start": "00:59:13", "end": "00:59:17", "text": "YouTube channel. Um"}, {"start": "00:59:15", "end": "00:59:19", "text": "back during this time. I And uh you"}, {"start": "00:59:17", "end": "00:59:20", "text": "know, it's made for kids, but it's cool."}, {"start": "00:59:19", "end": "00:59:22", "text": "And I was like I was like, \"You know"}, {"start": "00:59:20", "end": "00:59:25", "text": "what? There needs to be like a"}, {"start": "00:59:22", "end": "00:59:27", "text": "Coyote Peterson of history.\" And uh and"}, {"start": "00:59:25", "end": "00:59:29", "text": "then my sister was watching Extinct or"}, {"start": "00:59:27", "end": "00:59:30", "text": "Alive on Animal Planet, which is Forrest"}, {"start": "00:59:29", "end": "00:59:32", "text": "Galante. She was like, \"You have to"}, {"start": "00:59:30", "end": "00:59:33", "text": "watch this show.\" I'm watching the show"}, {"start": "00:59:32", "end": "00:59:35", "text": "and I'm thinking, \"There's not a history"}, {"start": "00:59:33", "end": "00:59:38", "text": "version of this. There's not a like a"}, {"start": "00:59:35", "end": "00:59:39", "text": "history guy that does this.\" And so one"}, {"start": "00:59:38", "end": "00:59:42", "text": "day I was"}, {"start": "00:59:39", "end": "00:59:44", "text": "I was kind of I started tinkering with"}, {"start": "00:59:42", "end": "00:59:46", "text": "the idea my last semester in college"}, {"start": "00:59:44", "end": "00:59:49", "text": "where I was like, \"Well,"}, {"start": "00:59:46", "end": "00:59:51", "text": "maybe I should be, you know, the the"}, {"start": "00:59:49", "end": "00:59:53", "text": "history Coyote Peterson or something"}, {"start": "00:59:51", "end": "00:59:54", "text": "like that. Maybe it's me. You know,"}, {"start": "00:59:53", "end": "00:59:56", "text": "maybe all this stuff that I've been"}, {"start": "00:59:54", "end": "00:59:58", "text": "influenced by, like maybe maybe that's"}, {"start": "00:59:56", "end": "01:00:00", "text": "what I should do and I should tell"}, {"start": "00:59:58", "end": "01:00:01", "text": "stories and go on adventures and film"}, {"start": "01:00:00", "end": "01:00:03", "text": "it.\" Of course I did not know what I was"}, {"start": "01:00:01", "end": "01:00:05", "text": "getting into. Um this story sounds very"}, {"start": "01:00:03", "end": "01:00:06", "text": "[clears throat] familiar, my friend."}, {"start": "01:00:05", "end": "01:00:07", "text": "Yeah, but does Yeah, yeah, yeah."}, {"start": "01:00:06", "end": "01:00:08", "text": ">> for a show that doesn't exist, so you"}, {"start": "01:00:07", "end": "01:00:09", "text": "just created"}, {"start": "01:00:08", "end": "01:00:10", "text": ">> Yeah, yeah. It's a And then you don't"}, {"start": "01:00:09", "end": "01:00:12", "text": "realize how much it"}, {"start": "01:00:10", "end": "01:00:14", "text": ">> My wife has a great saying. She She"}, {"start": "01:00:12", "end": "01:00:15", "text": "always says to me, uh sometimes she'll"}, {"start": "01:00:14", "end": "01:00:17", "text": "be like she'll be like, \"It was you all"}, {"start": "01:00:15", "end": "01:00:18", "text": "along.\" Like that thing you were looking"}, {"start": "01:00:17", "end": "01:00:22", "text": "for, it was you all along."}, {"start": "01:00:18", "end": "01:00:23", "text": ">> Mhm. And um She's a good one."}, {"start": "01:00:22", "end": "01:00:24", "text": "So then what happens have to do with"}, {"start": "01:00:23", "end": "01:00:27", "text": "this?"}, {"start": "01:00:24", "end": "01:00:27", "text": ">> So Yeah, yeah, yeah. So um"}, {"start": "01:00:27", "end": "01:00:29", "text": ">> [snorts]"}, {"start": "01:00:27", "end": "01:00:31", "text": ">> So I am"}, {"start": "01:00:29", "end": "01:00:32", "text": "Well, Dr. Barnhart and I get very close."}, {"start": "01:00:31", "end": "01:00:34", "text": "I start working with him. I reach out to"}, {"start": "01:00:32", "end": "01:00:37", "text": "him. I send him an email. He agrees to"}, {"start": "01:00:34", "end": "01:00:39", "text": "have uh he agrees to have a breakfast"}, {"start": "01:00:37", "end": "01:00:40", "text": "with me. What is that like when you when"}, {"start": "01:00:39", "end": "01:00:42", "text": "[clears throat] he's like, \"Let's get a"}, {"start": "01:00:40", "end": "01:00:44", "text": "bite.\" Are you freaking out? Yeah, it"}, {"start": "01:00:42", "end": "01:00:46", "text": "was pretty surreal. Yeah, yeah, yeah."}, {"start": "01:00:44", "end": "01:00:49", "text": "And um and so we meet up and we we get"}, {"start": "01:00:46", "end": "01:00:50", "text": "like tacos outside this this uh grocery"}, {"start": "01:00:49", "end": "01:00:52", "text": "store. And yeah, it was it was great."}, {"start": "01:00:50", "end": "01:00:55", "text": "And he had an hour for me and we ended"}, {"start": "01:00:52", "end": "01:00:57", "text": "up being there for like 4 hours. And"}, {"start": "01:00:55", "end": "01:00:59", "text": "That's how you knew. Oh, yeah, yeah,"}, {"start": "01:00:57", "end": "01:01:02", "text": "yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And"}, {"start": "01:00:59", "end": "01:01:04", "text": "Yeah, he he liked me and and um so a"}, {"start": "01:01:02", "end": "01:01:05", "text": "month and a half later I'm in Mexico"}, {"start": "01:01:04", "end": "01:01:07", "text": "with him at Palenque. The very first"}, {"start": "01:01:05", "end": "01:01:09", "text": "pyramid I see is the Temple of"}, {"start": "01:01:07", "end": "01:01:11", "text": "Inscriptions at the city of Palenque and"}, {"start": "01:01:09", "end": "01:01:13", "text": "I'm standing with Dr. Barnhart. And he"}, {"start": "01:01:11", "end": "01:01:14", "text": "and I have been like thick as thieves"}, {"start": "01:01:13", "end": "01:01:16", "text": "for"}, {"start": "01:01:14", "end": "01:01:17", "text": "I don't know, like 4 years now since"}, {"start": "01:01:16", "end": "01:01:18", "text": "then. He's a Would you consider him a"}, {"start": "01:01:17", "end": "01:01:20", "text": "mentor?"}, {"start": "01:01:18", "end": "01:01:20", "text": "Yeah, he's probably my only mentor, I'd"}, {"start": "01:01:20", "end": "01:01:22", "text": "say. yeah."}, {"start": "01:01:20", "end": "01:01:24", "text": ">> watch your channel?"}, {"start": "01:01:22", "end": "01:01:25", "text": "Uh yeah, I guess so. I mean, I don't"}, {"start": "01:01:24", "end": "01:01:27", "text": "know if he I don't know if he's actually"}, {"start": "01:01:25", "end": "01:01:28", "text": "I mean, I guess when it has to stuff to"}, {"start": "01:01:27", "end": "01:01:30", "text": "do with not not the Americas, he might"}, {"start": "01:01:28", "end": "01:01:31", "text": "learn something. But, uh I'm just"}, {"start": "01:01:30", "end": "01:01:33", "text": "wondering if he ever pushes back on some"}, {"start": "01:01:31", "end": "01:01:35", "text": "of your theories. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:01:33", "end": "01:01:36", "text": "Yeah. Well, I don't think that he and I"}, {"start": "01:01:35", "end": "01:01:38", "text": "agree on We can get into this later. I"}, {"start": "01:01:36", "end": "01:01:40", "text": "don't think that he and I agree on what"}, {"start": "01:01:38", "end": "01:01:42", "text": "the were-jaguars are when it comes to"}, {"start": "01:01:40", "end": "01:01:43", "text": "the the Olmecs. I think he and I"}, {"start": "01:01:42", "end": "01:01:45", "text": "disagree there."}, {"start": "01:01:43", "end": "01:01:47", "text": "Uh that might be the only thing that we"}, {"start": "01:01:45", "end": "01:01:49", "text": "disagree on. Um"}, {"start": "01:01:47", "end": "01:01:50", "text": "But, yeah. But, yeah, he I mean, we're"}, {"start": "01:01:49", "end": "01:01:51", "text": "two different people, you know,"}, {"start": "01:01:50", "end": "01:01:53", "text": "whatever. And but, it's fine. We don't"}, {"start": "01:01:51", "end": "01:01:56", "text": "argue about it. Um but, yeah, we chat"}, {"start": "01:01:53", "end": "01:01:59", "text": "almost every day. And he's become a very"}, {"start": "01:01:56", "end": "01:02:01", "text": "close friend of mine now. And And so,"}, {"start": "01:01:59", "end": "01:02:03", "text": "I had this period where when I was with"}, {"start": "01:02:01", "end": "01:02:05", "text": "when I first started working with him,"}, {"start": "01:02:03", "end": "01:02:07", "text": "that I was like, oh wow, you know, I'm"}, {"start": "01:02:05", "end": "01:02:09", "text": "working with this guy who's like a"}, {"start": "01:02:07", "end": "01:02:10", "text": "world-class archaeologist, very"}, {"start": "01:02:09", "end": "01:02:12", "text": "well-known."}, {"start": "01:02:10", "end": "01:02:15", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "01:02:12", "end": "01:02:18", "text": "And uh and so, I started becoming"}, {"start": "01:02:15", "end": "01:02:20", "text": "exposed to other academics as well."}, {"start": "01:02:18", "end": "01:02:23", "text": "And And academics that I still like and"}, {"start": "01:02:20", "end": "01:02:24", "text": "still talk with today, but"}, {"start": "01:02:23", "end": "01:02:26", "text": "maybe I should have just kept my"}, {"start": "01:02:24", "end": "01:02:28", "text": "exposure mostly to Dr. Barnhart because"}, {"start": "01:02:26", "end": "01:02:29", "text": "I started getting this idea in my head"}, {"start": "01:02:28", "end": "01:02:31", "text": "of like"}, {"start": "01:02:29", "end": "01:02:32", "text": "uh you know, being Dr. Luke might be"}, {"start": "01:02:31", "end": "01:02:33", "text": "kind of cool. 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And it makes you want to become"}, {"start": "01:02:48", "end": "01:02:53", "text": "equals to them, right?"}, {"start": "01:02:50", "end": "01:02:56", "text": "But, the more I did that,"}, {"start": "01:02:53", "end": "01:02:58", "text": "the further away I was getting from"}, {"start": "01:02:56", "end": "01:03:01", "text": "this adventurer spirit that my"}, {"start": "01:02:58", "end": "01:03:04", "text": "grandfather had and that my you know, my"}, {"start": "01:03:01", "end": "01:03:06", "text": "family had had. And that first"}, {"start": "01:03:04", "end": "01:03:08", "text": "spirit I had from reaching from reading"}, {"start": "01:03:06", "end": "01:03:09", "text": "like Fingerprints of the Gods, this idea"}, {"start": "01:03:08", "end": "01:03:11", "text": "of like, I want to travel around the"}, {"start": "01:03:09", "end": "01:03:13", "text": "world and see all these places. I want"}, {"start": "01:03:11", "end": "01:03:15", "text": "to be I want to do all of it. I want to"}, {"start": "01:03:13", "end": "01:03:18", "text": "be like Indiana Jones and go everywhere"}, {"start": "01:03:15", "end": "01:03:20", "text": "and know all the stuff."}, {"start": "01:03:18", "end": "01:03:22", "text": "So, um"}, {"start": "01:03:20", "end": "01:03:24", "text": "So, I had I had this period of time"}, {"start": "01:03:22", "end": "01:03:26", "text": "where I become really fascinated with"}, {"start": "01:03:24", "end": "01:03:27", "text": "the Greeks again. When I watched Troy as"}, {"start": "01:03:26", "end": "01:03:29", "text": "a kid, like like the ancient Greeks were"}, {"start": "01:03:27", "end": "01:03:31", "text": "the first civilization that I really"}, {"start": "01:03:29", "end": "01:03:34", "text": "sunk my teeth into and learned a lot"}, {"start": "01:03:31", "end": "01:03:37", "text": "about. Um"}, {"start": "01:03:34", "end": "01:03:39", "text": "the Bronze Age Greeks. And uh so, I had"}, {"start": "01:03:37", "end": "01:03:41", "text": "this period just over a year ago where I"}, {"start": "01:03:39", "end": "01:03:43", "text": "was thinking like, you know, maybe I"}, {"start": "01:03:41", "end": "01:03:46", "text": "you know, I I was I was teaching myself"}, {"start": "01:03:43", "end": "01:03:48", "text": "ancient Greek, and uh and I was like"}, {"start": "01:03:46", "end": "01:03:51", "text": "just I was deep into it, and"}, {"start": "01:03:48", "end": "01:03:52", "text": "and"}, {"start": "01:03:51", "end": "01:03:54", "text": "I was just I you know, I was too"}, {"start": "01:03:52", "end": "01:03:56", "text": "influenced by academics that were around"}, {"start": "01:03:54", "end": "01:03:58", "text": "me. Way too influenced by it. And the"}, {"start": "01:03:56", "end": "01:04:00", "text": "day I was supposed to"}, {"start": "01:03:58", "end": "01:04:02", "text": "pay the tuition, it's one of the it's"}, {"start": "01:04:00", "end": "01:04:06", "text": "one of the two times in my life that I I"}, {"start": "01:04:02", "end": "01:04:07", "text": "prayed for a clear answer. Not a not"}, {"start": "01:04:06", "end": "01:04:10", "text": "like oh, maybe I should do this."}, {"start": "01:04:07", "end": "01:04:11", "text": "I I I remember I remember and both times"}, {"start": "01:04:10", "end": "01:04:14", "text": "I'd have to sit down on the shower"}, {"start": "01:04:11", "end": "01:04:16", "text": "floor, and I'd pray and be like, God,"}, {"start": "01:04:14", "end": "01:04:17", "text": "I don't want you to show me what to do."}, {"start": "01:04:16", "end": "01:04:19", "text": "I need you to tell me. You need to make"}, {"start": "01:04:17", "end": "01:04:22", "text": "it very obvious. So, this is the second"}, {"start": "01:04:19", "end": "01:04:24", "text": "time, and it happened. The day I woke up"}, {"start": "01:04:22", "end": "01:04:26", "text": "to pay the tuition, everything in me was"}, {"start": "01:04:24", "end": "01:04:27", "text": "like, if you do this, you betray who you"}, {"start": "01:04:26", "end": "01:04:28", "text": "are, and you betray your whole family."}, {"start": "01:04:27", "end": "01:04:31", "text": ">> that?"}, {"start": "01:04:28", "end": "01:04:34", "text": ">> And and and it was and it was and it was"}, {"start": "01:04:31", "end": "01:04:36", "text": "I opened up I allowed It was like God"}, {"start": "01:04:34", "end": "01:04:39", "text": "telling me, I allowed you into that"}, {"start": "01:04:36", "end": "01:04:41", "text": "anthropology course to study the"}, {"start": "01:04:39", "end": "01:04:44", "text": "Americas, not to study the Greeks, not"}, {"start": "01:04:41", "end": "01:04:47", "text": "to not to go around the other world. The"}, {"start": "01:04:44", "end": "01:04:49", "text": "Americas opened itself up to you. That's"}, {"start": "01:04:47", "end": "01:04:50", "text": "what your grandfather explored in the"}, {"start": "01:04:49", "end": "01:04:51", "text": "American Southwest. Of course, we're"}, {"start": "01:04:50", "end": "01:04:53", "text": "Americans, but you know, it was like,"}, {"start": "01:04:51", "end": "01:04:56", "text": "no, that's the world that opened up to"}, {"start": "01:04:53", "end": "01:04:57", "text": "you, and that's your that's who you are."}, {"start": "01:04:56", "end": "01:05:01", "text": "It chose you."}, {"start": "01:04:57", "end": "01:05:04", "text": "And uh and I just knew like, oh, like"}, {"start": "01:05:01", "end": "01:05:06", "text": "this is I can't I can't do this. And um"}, {"start": "01:05:04", "end": "01:05:08", "text": "somewhere in there I was uh Oh, yeah,"}, {"start": "01:05:06", "end": "01:05:10", "text": "yeah. I say that I"}, {"start": "01:05:08", "end": "01:05:12", "text": "I do say that I had a a"}, {"start": "01:05:10", "end": "01:05:14", "text": "a mind-opening experience in the jungle,"}, {"start": "01:05:12", "end": "01:05:15", "text": "but that's actually not the jungles in"}, {"start": "01:05:14", "end": "01:05:16", "text": "America. I was in Cambodia. Okay."}, {"start": "01:05:15", "end": "01:05:19", "text": "[laughter]"}, {"start": "01:05:16", "end": "01:05:21", "text": "But uh I was in Cambodia and uh"}, {"start": "01:05:19", "end": "01:05:24", "text": "some of my buddies and I we were uh we"}, {"start": "01:05:21", "end": "01:05:27", "text": "were having some very good Cambodian uh"}, {"start": "01:05:24", "end": "01:05:28", "text": "devil's lettuce and uh it was potent,"}, {"start": "01:05:27", "end": "01:05:29", "text": "man. And I'm sitting there talking with"}, {"start": "01:05:28", "end": "01:05:32", "text": "them"}, {"start": "01:05:29", "end": "01:05:34", "text": "and I just uh I just knew while while I"}, {"start": "01:05:32", "end": "01:05:36", "text": "was talking with them"}, {"start": "01:05:34", "end": "01:05:38", "text": "um it was even more confirmed in my mind"}, {"start": "01:05:36", "end": "01:05:39", "text": "that that I had to stay with the"}, {"start": "01:05:38", "end": "01:05:40", "text": "Americas."}, {"start": "01:05:39", "end": "01:05:41", "text": ">> This is a little bit afterwards, yeah."}, {"start": "01:05:40", "end": "01:05:44", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "01:05:41", "end": "01:05:46", "text": "but it but I knew I really really knew"}, {"start": "01:05:44", "end": "01:05:47", "text": "um after spending a lot of time with"}, {"start": "01:05:46", "end": "01:05:49", "text": "some of my friends and kind of hearing"}, {"start": "01:05:47", "end": "01:05:50", "text": "some confirmation bias like that. They"}, {"start": "01:05:49", "end": "01:05:51", "text": "were all like you had to stay with the"}, {"start": "01:05:50", "end": "01:05:53", "text": "Americas. And that's what everybody"}, {"start": "01:05:51", "end": "01:05:56", "text": "thinks cuz it's so natural. But the"}, {"start": "01:05:53", "end": "01:05:58", "text": "difference is like sometimes when people"}, {"start": "01:05:56", "end": "01:06:00", "text": "watch you, they can see you more clearly"}, {"start": "01:05:58", "end": "01:06:02", "text": "than you can see yourself."}, {"start": "01:06:00", "end": "01:06:04", "text": ">> And so I"}, {"start": "01:06:02", "end": "01:06:06", "text": "have always struggled with"}, {"start": "01:06:04", "end": "01:06:09", "text": "the fact that"}, {"start": "01:06:06", "end": "01:06:12", "text": "the Americas opened itself up to me."}, {"start": "01:06:09", "end": "01:06:13", "text": "Like people see me as the Americas guy."}, {"start": "01:06:12", "end": "01:06:15", "text": "He's the guy that knows a lot about the"}, {"start": "01:06:13", "end": "01:06:16", "text": "Maya, the Olmecs, the the you know,"}, {"start": "01:06:15", "end": "01:06:17", "text": "ancient Peru, this that and the other."}, {"start": "01:06:16", "end": "01:06:19", "text": "And sometimes you have this identity"}, {"start": "01:06:17", "end": "01:06:20", "text": "crisis where you're like, \"Well, but no,"}, {"start": "01:06:19", "end": "01:06:22", "text": "my first love was the Greeks and I like"}, {"start": "01:06:20", "end": "01:06:25", "text": "the Egyptians, too.\" But that's not what"}, {"start": "01:06:22", "end": "01:06:28", "text": "that's not the plan that, you know, the"}, {"start": "01:06:25", "end": "01:06:29", "text": "universe has for me. And um so anyways,"}, {"start": "01:06:28", "end": "01:06:31", "text": "so that's that was kind of my struggle"}, {"start": "01:06:29", "end": "01:06:34", "text": "with with ancient Greece. But you know,"}, {"start": "01:06:31", "end": "01:06:36", "text": "it's uh people have seen sort of this"}, {"start": "01:06:34", "end": "01:06:38", "text": "arc over time where I had some ideas I"}, {"start": "01:06:36", "end": "01:06:39", "text": "thought I was going to do and didn't end"}, {"start": "01:06:38", "end": "01:06:42", "text": "up doing them. But you know, ultimately"}, {"start": "01:06:39", "end": "01:06:45", "text": "I'm at this place now where"}, {"start": "01:06:42", "end": "01:06:47", "text": "I have this I have this"}, {"start": "01:06:45", "end": "01:06:48", "text": "self-awareness now that like uh you"}, {"start": "01:06:47", "end": "01:06:50", "text": "know, the Americas is where I belong."}, {"start": "01:06:48", "end": "01:06:52", "text": "It's my bread and butter and um and"}, {"start": "01:06:50", "end": "01:06:54", "text": "there's so many stories here that need"}, {"start": "01:06:52", "end": "01:06:56", "text": "to be told that nobody else is telling."}, {"start": "01:06:54", "end": "01:06:58", "text": "And there's so many lost worlds here"}, {"start": "01:06:56", "end": "01:06:59", "text": "that like you know, what's funny is is"}, {"start": "01:06:58", "end": "01:07:02", "text": "um"}, {"start": "01:06:59", "end": "01:07:05", "text": "I spend so much time studying a topic"}, {"start": "01:07:02", "end": "01:07:06", "text": "before I ever talk about it in a uh on"}, {"start": "01:07:05", "end": "01:07:08", "text": "an actual video and produce something"}, {"start": "01:07:06", "end": "01:07:10", "text": "about it."}, {"start": "01:07:08", "end": "01:07:13", "text": "I haven't even slightly scratched the"}, {"start": "01:07:10", "end": "01:07:14", "text": "surface of the things that I will make"}, {"start": "01:07:13", "end": "01:07:15", "text": "videos on."}, {"start": "01:07:14", "end": "01:07:16", "text": "Um,"}, {"start": "01:07:15", "end": "01:07:17", "text": "you know, so like sometimes things slip"}, {"start": "01:07:16", "end": "01:07:18", "text": "out in podcasts or people will be like,"}, {"start": "01:07:17", "end": "01:07:20", "text": "\"You talked to some about this in a"}, {"start": "01:07:18", "end": "01:07:21", "text": "podcast for an hour before. You nearly"}, {"start": "01:07:20", "end": "01:07:23", "text": "made a video on it.\" I'm like, \"Well,"}, {"start": "01:07:21", "end": "01:07:24", "text": "you know, I"}, {"start": "01:07:23", "end": "01:07:26", "text": "I just really want to know something"}, {"start": "01:07:24", "end": "01:07:28", "text": "before I But, and it's so it's taken me"}, {"start": "01:07:26", "end": "01:07:30", "text": "a long time to form the direction I'm"}, {"start": "01:07:28", "end": "01:07:31", "text": "going, but you know, now I I kind of"}, {"start": "01:07:30", "end": "01:07:32", "text": "realize like there's so much in the"}, {"start": "01:07:31", "end": "01:07:34", "text": "Americas"}, {"start": "01:07:32", "end": "01:07:36", "text": "that people know about they should talk"}, {"start": "01:07:34", "end": "01:07:39", "text": "about. Man, I just did I just did the"}, {"start": "01:07:36", "end": "01:07:40", "text": "first the world's first, as far as I"}, {"start": "01:07:39", "end": "01:07:42", "text": "know,"}, {"start": "01:07:40", "end": "01:07:44", "text": "historical breakdown, basically"}, {"start": "01:07:42", "end": "01:07:47", "text": "according to the sources, proving the"}, {"start": "01:07:44", "end": "01:07:49", "text": "fact that jaguars were in the East Coast"}, {"start": "01:07:47", "end": "01:07:52", "text": "of the US 300 years ago."}, {"start": "01:07:49", "end": "01:07:54", "text": "Nobody else did anything like that. And"}, {"start": "01:07:52", "end": "01:07:56", "text": "so, the Americas just need that. What"}, {"start": "01:07:54", "end": "01:07:57", "text": "One thing I'm working on right now, um,"}, {"start": "01:07:56", "end": "01:08:00", "text": "and we're going to offer to go down"}, {"start": "01:07:57", "end": "01:08:02", "text": "there and LiDAR scan it with Basecamp,"}, {"start": "01:08:00", "end": "01:08:04", "text": "is uh, a team down in Southern Chile."}, {"start": "01:08:02", "end": "01:08:07", "text": "They just found one of the lost colonies"}, {"start": "01:08:04", "end": "01:08:08", "text": "of Magellan uh, down in Chile. Yes, they"}, {"start": "01:08:07", "end": "01:08:10", "text": "just found it. And they're going to try"}, {"start": "01:08:08", "end": "01:08:12", "text": "to find the second one cuz there's it's"}, {"start": "01:08:10", "end": "01:08:14", "text": "twin colonies. But, I don't know how"}, {"start": "01:08:12", "end": "01:08:17", "text": "good their LiDAR stuff is, but we can"}, {"start": "01:08:14", "end": "01:08:18", "text": "LiDAR map like"}, {"start": "01:08:17", "end": "01:08:21", "text": "They sent me They sent me something, but"}, {"start": "01:08:18", "end": "01:08:23", "text": "I I think we can LiDAR like 13,000 acres"}, {"start": "01:08:21", "end": "01:08:25", "text": "in like 5 days. So, we're going to We"}, {"start": "01:08:23", "end": "01:08:26", "text": "would help them find that. Um, but"}, {"start": "01:08:25", "end": "01:08:27", "text": "there's so many stories in the Americas"}, {"start": "01:08:26", "end": "01:08:29", "text": "that"}, {"start": "01:08:27", "end": "01:08:30", "text": "But, you don't mind if we if we if we"}, {"start": "01:08:29", "end": "01:08:32", "text": "travel a little bit around the world."}, {"start": "01:08:30", "end": "01:08:33", "text": ">> Absolutely. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, and"}, {"start": "01:08:32", "end": "01:08:35", "text": "I should say that said, it's not like"}, {"start": "01:08:33", "end": "01:08:37", "text": "I'm just going to stick to the stick to"}, {"start": "01:08:35", "end": "01:08:39", "text": "the Americas forever, but I know that"}, {"start": "01:08:37", "end": "01:08:40", "text": "that is something that really needs to"}, {"start": "01:08:39", "end": "01:08:42", "text": "be"}, {"start": "01:08:40", "end": "01:08:44", "text": "like my main focus, if that makes sense."}, {"start": "01:08:42", "end": "01:08:48", "text": "But, I Man, I I love ancient Egypt. I"}, {"start": "01:08:44", "end": "01:08:50", "text": "love the Greeks. I I love ancient China,"}, {"start": "01:08:48", "end": "01:08:52", "text": "you know, um, so that that that will"}, {"start": "01:08:50", "end": "01:08:53", "text": "always be an aspect of mine. I'll never"}, {"start": "01:08:52", "end": "01:08:54", "text": "niche down again. That was kind of one"}, {"start": "01:08:53", "end": "01:08:57", "text": "of the other things is being around so"}, {"start": "01:08:54", "end": "01:09:00", "text": "many academics,"}, {"start": "01:08:57", "end": "01:09:02", "text": "they're so geared towards hyper niching,"}, {"start": "01:09:00", "end": "01:09:04", "text": "and that invades your way of thinking."}, {"start": "01:09:02", "end": "01:09:07", "text": "Um, so I'm always going to be like a"}, {"start": "01:09:04", "end": "01:09:08", "text": "global general historian, but"}, {"start": "01:09:07", "end": "01:09:10", "text": "I"}, {"start": "01:09:08", "end": "01:09:12", "text": "I really, especially now with these new"}, {"start": "01:09:10", "end": "01:09:15", "text": "lidar projects, like I'm really going to"}, {"start": "01:09:12", "end": "01:09:17", "text": "hone in on expanding a lot of the things"}, {"start": "01:09:15", "end": "01:09:17", "text": "that most people don't know about the"}, {"start": "01:09:17", "end": "01:09:19", "text": "Americas."}, {"start": "01:09:17", "end": "01:09:22", "text": ">> Well, that's brings me to something"}, {"start": "01:09:19", "end": "01:09:24", "text": "before we go to break. If you could just"}, {"start": "01:09:22", "end": "01:09:25", "text": "tell us"}, {"start": "01:09:24", "end": "01:09:27", "text": "what it's"}, {"start": "01:09:25", "end": "01:09:29", "text": "really like when you're in the field."}, {"start": "01:09:27", "end": "01:09:31", "text": "Not the Not the glory. I want to know"}, {"start": "01:09:29", "end": "01:09:34", "text": "about the mosquitoes and the logistics"}, {"start": "01:09:31", "end": "01:09:37", "text": "problems and when things go wrong. What"}, {"start": "01:09:34", "end": "01:09:39", "text": "is that like? Well, mosquitoes, man, the"}, {"start": "01:09:37", "end": "01:09:41", "text": "worst I ever had them was at Machu"}, {"start": "01:09:39", "end": "01:09:43", "text": "Picchu. I made a mistake of wearing a"}, {"start": "01:09:41", "end": "01:09:44", "text": "short-sleeved shirt out there in the"}, {"start": "01:09:43", "end": "01:09:47", "text": "summer."}, {"start": "01:09:44", "end": "01:09:50", "text": "Amazonian mosquitoes are unlike anything"}, {"start": "01:09:47", "end": "01:09:53", "text": "that most people have experienced."}, {"start": "01:09:50", "end": "01:09:54", "text": "Their Their stings I don't know what I"}, {"start": "01:09:53", "end": "01:09:57", "text": "don't know exactly what's in them like"}, {"start": "01:09:54", "end": "01:09:58", "text": "like the venom or something that that's"}, {"start": "01:09:57", "end": "01:10:00", "text": "in that's in their stings that makes"}, {"start": "01:09:58", "end": "01:10:03", "text": "your skin like inflame and cause these"}, {"start": "01:10:00", "end": "01:10:05", "text": "bumps, but it's so contagious that I"}, {"start": "01:10:03", "end": "01:10:06", "text": "would scratch myself and I would"}, {"start": "01:10:05", "end": "01:10:08", "text": "actually spread it across my arms and"}, {"start": "01:10:06", "end": "01:10:11", "text": "across my body."}, {"start": "01:10:08", "end": "01:10:13", "text": "Three weeks after I'd gotten back from"}, {"start": "01:10:11", "end": "01:10:15", "text": "from Peru, the the bumps are still"}, {"start": "01:10:13", "end": "01:10:17", "text": "spreading around me. Everywhere I would"}, {"start": "01:10:15", "end": "01:10:19", "text": "scratch Luckily, I I avoided getting on"}, {"start": "01:10:17", "end": "01:10:21", "text": "my face, but they were still they would"}, {"start": "01:10:19", "end": "01:10:23", "text": "new bumps would pop up on my arms every"}, {"start": "01:10:21", "end": "01:10:24", "text": "day. And so when you would read the"}, {"start": "01:10:23", "end": "01:10:26", "text": "through the journals of Percy Fawcett"}, {"start": "01:10:24", "end": "01:10:28", "text": "and you see how his his arms were"}, {"start": "01:10:26", "end": "01:10:30", "text": "scarred from the field. So I don't know"}, {"start": "01:10:28", "end": "01:10:32", "text": "if you can You probably can't tell cuz"}, {"start": "01:10:30", "end": "01:10:35", "text": "you don't stare at my arms every day,"}, {"start": "01:10:32", "end": "01:10:36", "text": "but like every little dark spot that you"}, {"start": "01:10:35", "end": "01:10:38", "text": "see where you're like, \"Oh, is that a"}, {"start": "01:10:36", "end": "01:10:40", "text": "dark spot?\" Yeah, that's a mosquito bite"}, {"start": "01:10:38", "end": "01:10:42", "text": "from from 2 years ago."}, {"start": "01:10:40", "end": "01:10:44", "text": ">> mosquito scar? Yeah, yeah. And then"}, {"start": "01:10:42", "end": "01:10:46", "text": "these these straight lines, these are"}, {"start": "01:10:44", "end": "01:10:47", "text": "from thorns from the from the Heela"}, {"start": "01:10:46", "end": "01:10:48", "text": "expedition I just did."}, {"start": "01:10:47", "end": "01:10:50", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "01:10:48", "end": "01:10:52", "text": ">> What else is out there? Snakes?"}, {"start": "01:10:50", "end": "01:10:54", "text": "Yeah, well, so in in Mexico, Central and"}, {"start": "01:10:52", "end": "01:10:56", "text": "South America, you have to worry about"}, {"start": "01:10:54", "end": "01:10:59", "text": "the fer-de-lance. Um"}, {"start": "01:10:56", "end": "01:11:01", "text": "It's the It's the most dangerous snake."}, {"start": "01:10:59", "end": "01:11:04", "text": "I've gotten corrected before by saying"}, {"start": "01:11:01", "end": "01:11:05", "text": "it's the deadliest snake in in in the"}, {"start": "01:11:04", "end": "01:11:08", "text": "Americas."}, {"start": "01:11:05", "end": "01:11:09", "text": "I still think that it is. Maybe it's not"}, {"start": "01:11:08", "end": "01:11:11", "text": "the most venomous. They say it's the"}, {"start": "01:11:09", "end": "01:11:12", "text": "coral snake. But the problem is that to"}, {"start": "01:11:11", "end": "01:11:14", "text": "get a coral snake to bite you, you have"}, {"start": "01:11:12", "end": "01:11:16", "text": "to shove it up against your hand or"}, {"start": "01:11:14", "end": "01:11:18", "text": "something. But a fer-de-lance will go"}, {"start": "01:11:16", "end": "01:11:19", "text": "out of its way. Oh, it No, it No, it"}, {"start": "01:11:18", "end": "01:11:21", "text": "won't go out of its way, but it won't"}, {"start": "01:11:19", "end": "01:11:22", "text": "run away from you. It'll stay coiled up."}, {"start": "01:11:21", "end": "01:11:24", "text": "And you know, a lot of animals have"}, {"start": "01:11:22", "end": "01:11:26", "text": "fight or flight. It's all fight. And"}, {"start": "01:11:24", "end": "01:11:28", "text": "they And they And they repeat strike,"}, {"start": "01:11:26", "end": "01:11:29", "text": "too. So, they'll bite you once and"}, {"start": "01:11:28", "end": "01:11:30", "text": "they'll bite you again and they'll bite"}, {"start": "01:11:29", "end": "01:11:32", "text": "you again and they'll bite you again."}, {"start": "01:11:30", "end": "01:11:34", "text": "They don't They don't retreat. So,"}, {"start": "01:11:32", "end": "01:11:36", "text": "they're really really dangerous and"}, {"start": "01:11:34", "end": "01:11:37", "text": "they're brown. So, So, you don't see"}, {"start": "01:11:36", "end": "01:11:38", "text": "them. You're not Yeah, you're not going"}, {"start": "01:11:37", "end": "01:11:40", "text": "to see them. You have any snake [snorts]"}, {"start": "01:11:38", "end": "01:11:41", "text": "bites yet?"}, {"start": "01:11:40", "end": "01:11:44", "text": "No. No, no, no. I've never I've never"}, {"start": "01:11:41", "end": "01:11:46", "text": "been bitten by a snake. Um, yeah, and"}, {"start": "01:11:44", "end": "01:11:48", "text": "I've seen I've seen two fer-de-lances in"}, {"start": "01:11:46", "end": "01:11:49", "text": "person. One was a baby, which are like"}, {"start": "01:11:48", "end": "01:11:52", "text": "extremely dangerous cuz they'll give you"}, {"start": "01:11:49", "end": "01:11:55", "text": "all their venom. Um, and then the other"}, {"start": "01:11:52", "end": "01:11:55", "text": "one was actually at the hotel. They They"}, {"start": "01:11:55", "end": "01:11:56", "text": "They They They They They They They They"}, {"start": "01:11:55", "end": "01:11:57", "text": "They They They They They They They They"}, {"start": "01:11:56", "end": "01:11:57", "text": "They They They They They They They They"}, {"start": "01:11:57", "end": "01:11:58", "text": "They They They They They They They They"}, {"start": "01:11:57", "end": "01:11:58", "text": "They They They They They They They They"}, {"start": "01:11:58", "end": "01:11:59", "text": "They They They They They They They They"}, {"start": "01:11:58", "end": "01:12:00", "text": "They They They They They They They They"}, {"start": "01:11:59", "end": "01:12:00", "text": "They They They They They They They They"}, {"start": "01:12:00", "end": "01:12:01", "text": "They They They They They They They They"}, {"start": "01:12:00", "end": "01:12:02", "text": "They They They They They They They They"}, {"start": "01:12:01", "end": "01:12:02", "text": "They They They They They They They They"}, {"start": "01:12:02", "end": "01:12:03", "text": "They They They They They They They They"}, {"start": "01:12:02", "end": "01:12:04", "text": "They They They They They They They They"}, {"start": "01:12:03", "end": "01:12:05", "text": "They They They They They They They They"}, {"start": "01:12:04", "end": "01:12:07", "text": "They They They They"}, {"start": "01:12:05", "end": "01:12:09", "text": ">> Uh, when you walk around, you know, I"}, {"start": "01:12:07", "end": "01:12:10", "text": "don't know. If you go to sometimes there"}, {"start": "01:12:09", "end": "01:12:11", "text": "are"}, {"start": "01:12:10", "end": "01:12:12", "text": "uh hotels that you go to where you have"}, {"start": "01:12:11", "end": "01:12:14", "text": "to go out at night to go to the"}, {"start": "01:12:12", "end": "01:12:17", "text": "restroom. And so, sometimes the"}, {"start": "01:12:14", "end": "01:12:19", "text": "restrooms are built up on like a stilt"}, {"start": "01:12:17", "end": "01:12:21", "text": "and that little area between the ground"}, {"start": "01:12:19", "end": "01:12:23", "text": "and the floor of the restroom, they'll"}, {"start": "01:12:21", "end": "01:12:24", "text": "sit right there and they bite people on"}, {"start": "01:12:23", "end": "01:12:25", "text": "the ankles as they're going to the"}, {"start": "01:12:24", "end": "01:12:26", "text": "restroom in the middle of the"}, {"start": "01:12:25", "end": "01:12:28", "text": ">> night. Yeah, that's wild. It's wild"}, {"start": "01:12:26", "end": "01:12:28", "text": "stuff. So, um,"}, {"start": "01:12:28", "end": "01:12:30", "text": ">> [clears throat]"}, {"start": "01:12:28", "end": "01:12:32", "text": ">> but I would say"}, {"start": "01:12:30", "end": "01:12:34", "text": ">> explorer. You're out there."}, {"start": "01:12:32", "end": "01:12:36", "text": "I would say So, I just did a I just did"}, {"start": "01:12:34", "end": "01:12:39", "text": "an expedition on training wheels as as I"}, {"start": "01:12:36", "end": "01:12:40", "text": "call it to to the Gila. And this was"}, {"start": "01:12:39", "end": "01:12:42", "text": "basically"}, {"start": "01:12:40", "end": "01:12:44", "text": "uh myself and a group of guys. We got"}, {"start": "01:12:42", "end": "01:12:45", "text": "ourselves equipped. We bought all the"}, {"start": "01:12:44", "end": "01:12:47", "text": "equipment that you would need for an"}, {"start": "01:12:45", "end": "01:12:49", "text": "expedition pretty much anywhere anywhere"}, {"start": "01:12:47", "end": "01:12:51", "text": "around in the world. And uh and I I"}, {"start": "01:12:49", "end": "01:12:53", "text": "planned this route through the Gila,"}, {"start": "01:12:51", "end": "01:12:54", "text": "which I got a lot of pushback for cuz a"}, {"start": "01:12:53", "end": "01:12:56", "text": "lot of people were like, \"Oh, you know,"}, {"start": "01:12:54", "end": "01:12:57", "text": "I've been hunting out there since"}, {"start": "01:12:56", "end": "01:12:59", "text": "forever. That place isn't uncharted,"}, {"start": "01:12:57", "end": "01:13:00", "text": "blah blah blah.\" I'm like, \"I don't even"}, {"start": "01:12:59", "end": "01:13:02", "text": "think you I'm not sure if you know what"}, {"start": "01:13:00", "end": "01:13:02", "text": "charted means or whatever.\" But, um"}, {"start": "01:13:02", "end": "01:13:04", "text": ">> [clears throat]"}, {"start": "01:13:02", "end": "01:13:05", "text": ">> or what exactly I'm talking about,"}, {"start": "01:13:04", "end": "01:13:08", "text": "whether it's archaeologically charted or"}, {"start": "01:13:05", "end": "01:13:09", "text": "explored or not. Um"}, {"start": "01:13:08", "end": "01:13:12", "text": "and so but it was it was like an"}, {"start": "01:13:09", "end": "01:13:15", "text": "expedition on training wheels. I got to"}, {"start": "01:13:12", "end": "01:13:17", "text": "see and feel what it what it was like to"}, {"start": "01:13:15", "end": "01:13:20", "text": "invest so much"}, {"start": "01:13:17", "end": "01:13:21", "text": "into all the equipment and getting"}, {"start": "01:13:20", "end": "01:13:23", "text": "everybody"}, {"start": "01:13:21", "end": "01:13:26", "text": "prepared and developing a plan and"}, {"start": "01:13:23", "end": "01:13:27", "text": "trying to see what does executing this"}, {"start": "01:13:26", "end": "01:13:29", "text": "plan feel like. And just to give you an"}, {"start": "01:13:27", "end": "01:13:30", "text": "idea of of just how hard it is to go"}, {"start": "01:13:29", "end": "01:13:32", "text": "through"}, {"start": "01:13:30", "end": "01:13:34", "text": "even just the Gila wilderness, which is"}, {"start": "01:13:32", "end": "01:13:35", "text": "pretty fairly dry and you think that"}, {"start": "01:13:34", "end": "01:13:37", "text": "it's open,"}, {"start": "01:13:35", "end": "01:13:38", "text": "it's way more dense and hard to get"}, {"start": "01:13:37", "end": "01:13:41", "text": "through than you think, especially with"}, {"start": "01:13:38", "end": "01:13:43", "text": "river crossings. Like I went in thinking"}, {"start": "01:13:41", "end": "01:13:44", "text": "we'd have to do a few river crossings,"}, {"start": "01:13:43", "end": "01:13:46", "text": "and by the time the expedition was over,"}, {"start": "01:13:44", "end": "01:13:46", "text": "we had done over 200."}, {"start": "01:13:46", "end": "01:13:48", "text": ">> Oh, wow."}, {"start": "01:13:46", "end": "01:13:50", "text": ">> So, and and you know, one of the other"}, {"start": "01:13:48", "end": "01:13:54", "text": "problems is like"}, {"start": "01:13:50", "end": "01:13:56", "text": "I had I had a a very nice uh pair of"}, {"start": "01:13:54", "end": "01:13:57", "text": "Crispi boots. People are hunters,"}, {"start": "01:13:56", "end": "01:13:58", "text": "they'll know what those are, but they're"}, {"start": "01:13:57", "end": "01:14:00", "text": "they're most they're waterproof if you"}, {"start": "01:13:58", "end": "01:14:01", "text": "can keep your"}, {"start": "01:14:00", "end": "01:14:02", "text": "you know, the boot above above the water"}, {"start": "01:14:01", "end": "01:14:03", "text": "level."}, {"start": "01:14:02", "end": "01:14:05", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "01:14:03", "end": "01:14:06", "text": "but, you know, if you get if you get"}, {"start": "01:14:05", "end": "01:14:08", "text": "water in your in your boots, your socks"}, {"start": "01:14:06", "end": "01:14:09", "text": "get wet, you can only bring so many"}, {"start": "01:14:08", "end": "01:14:11", "text": "socks."}, {"start": "01:14:09", "end": "01:14:13", "text": "By the time you get to the camp, it's"}, {"start": "01:14:11", "end": "01:14:14", "text": "going to be night time, it starts"}, {"start": "01:14:13", "end": "01:14:16", "text": "getting cold, you're not drying out your"}, {"start": "01:14:14", "end": "01:14:19", "text": "socks over a fire. A fire's not hot"}, {"start": "01:14:16", "end": "01:14:20", "text": "enough to to dry out your socks. That"}, {"start": "01:14:19", "end": "01:14:22", "text": "happens 2 days in a row, you have"}, {"start": "01:14:20", "end": "01:14:24", "text": "nothing but wet socks and wet boots."}, {"start": "01:14:22", "end": "01:14:26", "text": "Uh the skin, you know, you're you're"}, {"start": "01:14:24", "end": "01:14:28", "text": "walking so much that the skin on the"}, {"start": "01:14:26", "end": "01:14:29", "text": "bottom of your toes is like peeling"}, {"start": "01:14:28", "end": "01:14:31", "text": "back, especially if they're wet, the"}, {"start": "01:14:29", "end": "01:14:33", "text": "skin on your toes is peeling off. This"}, {"start": "01:14:31", "end": "01:14:35", "text": "is like trench foot. Yeah,"}, {"start": "01:14:33", "end": "01:14:37", "text": "[clears throat] my uh my my both of my"}, {"start": "01:14:35", "end": "01:14:40", "text": "big toes"}, {"start": "01:14:37", "end": "01:14:42", "text": "uh I um I don't know if I I I I didn't"}, {"start": "01:14:40", "end": "01:14:45", "text": "sever the nerves on them, but I I"}, {"start": "01:14:42", "end": "01:14:47", "text": "compressed them so much that now, 6"}, {"start": "01:14:45", "end": "01:14:49", "text": "weeks after we've gotten home, my both"}, {"start": "01:14:47", "end": "01:14:51", "text": "of my big toes, half of them are still"}, {"start": "01:14:49", "end": "01:14:53", "text": "numb. Just from how much I my toe had to"}, {"start": "01:14:51", "end": "01:14:54", "text": "be pressed. And you know, they they say"}, {"start": "01:14:53", "end": "01:14:56", "text": "like, \"Oh, well, your boot's not big"}, {"start": "01:14:54", "end": "01:14:57", "text": "enough.\" But when you're going downhill,"}, {"start": "01:14:56", "end": "01:14:59", "text": "you're going to be pressing your your"}, {"start": "01:14:57", "end": "01:15:02", "text": "toes against the side of your boot."}, {"start": "01:14:59", "end": "01:15:06", "text": "Um So, we were"}, {"start": "01:15:02", "end": "01:15:06", "text": "we went at 30% the pace I expected that"}, {"start": "01:15:06", "end": "01:15:07", "text": "we would go."}, {"start": "01:15:06", "end": "01:15:10", "text": ">> 30%?"}, {"start": "01:15:07", "end": "01:15:11", "text": ">> 30%. Yeah, so uh we had the we had this"}, {"start": "01:15:10", "end": "01:15:12", "text": "map in front of us and we thought that"}, {"start": "01:15:11", "end": "01:15:15", "text": "we were going to be able to get from"}, {"start": "01:15:12", "end": "01:15:17", "text": "this lake down this river valley across"}, {"start": "01:15:15", "end": "01:15:19", "text": "this other river valley and then over"}, {"start": "01:15:17", "end": "01:15:20", "text": "the top of this mountain"}, {"start": "01:15:19", "end": "01:15:21", "text": "all in I don't know why I thought we"}, {"start": "01:15:20", "end": "01:15:23", "text": "could do all this in one day. I mean,"}, {"start": "01:15:21", "end": "01:15:25", "text": "you're looking at it on satellite and"}, {"start": "01:15:23", "end": "01:15:27", "text": "and you can't see what the terrain is"}, {"start": "01:15:25", "end": "01:15:29", "text": "like, so you go down there to find out."}, {"start": "01:15:27", "end": "01:15:31", "text": "And this is why we did an expedition in"}, {"start": "01:15:29", "end": "01:15:34", "text": "the States. Uh I did it to a place"}, {"start": "01:15:31", "end": "01:15:35", "text": "that's historically and"}, {"start": "01:15:34", "end": "01:15:37", "text": "I guess"}, {"start": "01:15:35", "end": "01:15:38", "text": "um nostalgically or sentimentally"}, {"start": "01:15:37", "end": "01:15:41", "text": "significant to me, right? In the Gila"}, {"start": "01:15:38", "end": "01:15:42", "text": "Wilderness. And uh so I"}, {"start": "01:15:41", "end": "01:15:44", "text": "there's this place called the Mogollon"}, {"start": "01:15:42", "end": "01:15:46", "text": "Cliff Dwellings,"}, {"start": "01:15:44", "end": "01:15:48", "text": "which is a really cool and mostly like"}, {"start": "01:15:46", "end": "01:15:50", "text": "it's like a little hidden gem. Most"}, {"start": "01:15:48", "end": "01:15:51", "text": "people don't don't go to the Gila Cliff"}, {"start": "01:15:50", "end": "01:15:54", "text": "Dwellings. They'll go to like Chaco"}, {"start": "01:15:51", "end": "01:15:56", "text": "Canyon or something. And up that river"}, {"start": "01:15:54", "end": "01:16:00", "text": "about 25 mi up, there's a place where it"}, {"start": "01:15:56", "end": "01:16:02", "text": "gets much more green and all of the uh"}, {"start": "01:16:00", "end": "01:16:03", "text": "and and the the canyon is very very"}, {"start": "01:16:02", "end": "01:16:05", "text": "dense. So, like flash floods are super"}, {"start": "01:16:03", "end": "01:16:08", "text": "dangerous. And all of the trails through"}, {"start": "01:16:05", "end": "01:16:09", "text": "the Gila Wilderness go around this area."}, {"start": "01:16:08", "end": "01:16:11", "text": "So, it's this area that doesn't get a"}, {"start": "01:16:09", "end": "01:16:12", "text": "lot of traffic. And you would watch"}, {"start": "01:16:11", "end": "01:16:14", "text": "videos and people would say, \"The river"}, {"start": "01:16:12", "end": "01:16:15", "text": "continues this way, but we have to stop"}, {"start": "01:16:14", "end": "01:16:17", "text": "here cuz there's no more trails going"}, {"start": "01:16:15", "end": "01:16:19", "text": "through there.\" They say that's where"}, {"start": "01:16:17", "end": "01:16:22", "text": "all the wildlife fled to in these tight"}, {"start": "01:16:19", "end": "01:16:23", "text": "canyons, so they think like cave or uh"}, {"start": "01:16:22", "end": "01:16:25", "text": "bears and mountain lions and stuff are"}, {"start": "01:16:23", "end": "01:16:26", "text": "living in that one area."}, {"start": "01:16:25", "end": "01:16:27", "text": ">> That's where the food is. And so, that's"}, {"start": "01:16:26", "end": "01:16:30", "text": "where the expedition that's where we"}, {"start": "01:16:27", "end": "01:16:31", "text": "went. We We went straight down this area"}, {"start": "01:16:30", "end": "01:16:33", "text": "that there that there are no trails."}, {"start": "01:16:31", "end": "01:16:36", "text": "Went straight down and then back out."}, {"start": "01:16:33", "end": "01:16:37", "text": "And um You put this online yet? Yeah,"}, {"start": "01:16:36", "end": "01:16:40", "text": "yeah. It's It's like a 2-hour"}, {"start": "01:16:37", "end": "01:16:41", "text": "documentary thing that we did. Okay. Um"}, {"start": "01:16:40", "end": "01:16:42", "text": "and so [clears throat]"}, {"start": "01:16:41", "end": "01:16:44", "text": "uh"}, {"start": "01:16:42", "end": "01:16:46", "text": "Yeah, so, you know, I just I did this to"}, {"start": "01:16:44", "end": "01:16:48", "text": "see I did this because I knew that if"}, {"start": "01:16:46", "end": "01:16:49", "text": "something ever went wrong, we could get"}, {"start": "01:16:48", "end": "01:16:51", "text": "we could get help. You speak the same"}, {"start": "01:16:49", "end": "01:16:52", "text": "language as everybody, right? So, that"}, {"start": "01:16:51", "end": "01:16:54", "text": "that's a that's a big thing. Like, if"}, {"start": "01:16:52", "end": "01:16:57", "text": "you're in Mexico, uh you know, my"}, {"start": "01:16:54", "end": "01:16:59", "text": "Spanish isn't that good. Um and you"}, {"start": "01:16:57", "end": "01:16:59", "text": "know, you have Spanish-speaking people"}, {"start": "01:16:59", "end": "01:17:01", "text": "with you, but it's"}, {"start": "01:16:59", "end": "01:17:02", "text": ">> the yellow cliffs. Yeah, I've These are"}, {"start": "01:17:01", "end": "01:17:03", "text": "amazing."}, {"start": "01:17:02", "end": "01:17:04", "text": ">> Yeah, but it's just it's just more"}, {"start": "01:17:03", "end": "01:17:05", "text": "complicated to get help in a different"}, {"start": "01:17:04", "end": "01:17:08", "text": "country. In the US, it can happen just"}, {"start": "01:17:05", "end": "01:17:10", "text": "like that. So, um Well,"}, {"start": "01:17:08", "end": "01:17:11", "text": "in like 10 years, you're going to be"}, {"start": "01:17:10", "end": "01:17:12", "text": "with a junior explorer who's going to"}, {"start": "01:17:11", "end": "01:17:14", "text": "look at a map and say, \"Oh, we could do"}, {"start": "01:17:12", "end": "01:17:17", "text": "this in 2 days.\" You're going to say,"}, {"start": "01:17:14", "end": "01:17:19", "text": "\"10.\" Exactly. Exactly. I I know"}, {"start": "01:17:17", "end": "01:17:21", "text": "exactly. And so, that's why I'm glad"}, {"start": "01:17:19", "end": "01:17:23", "text": "that we did this first expedition. I I"}, {"start": "01:17:21", "end": "01:17:24", "text": "had some comments. People were like"}, {"start": "01:17:23", "end": "01:17:25", "text": "People were like, \"Oh, man, this really"}, {"start": "01:17:24", "end": "01:17:26", "text": "blah blah blah blah blah.\" I'm like,"}, {"start": "01:17:25", "end": "01:17:27", "text": "\"Man, I'm just"}, {"start": "01:17:26", "end": "01:17:29", "text": ">> the comments. I'm like I'm like I'm just"}, {"start": "01:17:27", "end": "01:17:31", "text": "learning how to, you know, like you guys"}, {"start": "01:17:29", "end": "01:17:34", "text": "just wait till you see what what we're"}, {"start": "01:17:31", "end": "01:17:35", "text": "about to do. Um cuz now we're planning"}, {"start": "01:17:34", "end": "01:17:36", "text": "this one in American Samoa. That's going"}, {"start": "01:17:35", "end": "01:17:37", "text": "to be a big deal. And then we're doing"}, {"start": "01:17:36", "end": "01:17:40", "text": "this one in the Amazon. If it goes"}, {"start": "01:17:37", "end": "01:17:43", "text": "through, it'll be the biggest scan"}, {"start": "01:17:40", "end": "01:17:46", "text": "that's ever been done in the Amazon. Um"}, {"start": "01:17:43", "end": "01:17:47", "text": "so, uh but yeah, that is as far as being"}, {"start": "01:17:46", "end": "01:17:50", "text": "in the field,"}, {"start": "01:17:47", "end": "01:17:52", "text": "everything is so much more difficult,"}, {"start": "01:17:50", "end": "01:17:55", "text": "and it takes so much longer than you"}, {"start": "01:17:52", "end": "01:17:58", "text": "anticipate it's going to. Uh like I"}, {"start": "01:17:55", "end": "01:18:00", "text": "said, we moved at 30% the speed that I"}, {"start": "01:17:58", "end": "01:18:02", "text": "thought we would. And um oh, and then"}, {"start": "01:18:00", "end": "01:18:03", "text": "there's there's food issues, right? Like"}, {"start": "01:18:02", "end": "01:18:05", "text": ">> just going to ask, did you bring enough"}, {"start": "01:18:03", "end": "01:18:08", "text": "supplies?"}, {"start": "01:18:05", "end": "01:18:12", "text": "We did bring enough supplies. Uh we had"}, {"start": "01:18:08", "end": "01:18:15", "text": "uh we had one hiccup with the food where"}, {"start": "01:18:12", "end": "01:18:17", "text": "uh one person did not have food. So, we"}, {"start": "01:18:15", "end": "01:18:19", "text": "had to divide the food amongst"}, {"start": "01:18:17", "end": "01:18:21", "text": "everybody. This is how stories begin."}, {"start": "01:18:19", "end": "01:18:24", "text": "Yeah, yeah. So, we had to divide the"}, {"start": "01:18:21", "end": "01:18:26", "text": "food, which took our calories uh from"}, {"start": "01:18:24", "end": "01:18:29", "text": "you know, we had planned for about 1,800"}, {"start": "01:18:26", "end": "01:18:32", "text": "calories a day. Um and that took that"}, {"start": "01:18:29", "end": "01:18:33", "text": "from 1,800 to 900 calories a day."}, {"start": "01:18:32", "end": "01:18:37", "text": ">> That doesn't sound like enough to do"}, {"start": "01:18:33", "end": "01:18:39", "text": "this work. Oh, man. So, on the last day,"}, {"start": "01:18:37", "end": "01:18:42", "text": "I was like I was like wobbly. I was"}, {"start": "01:18:39", "end": "01:18:44", "text": "pushing through."}, {"start": "01:18:42", "end": "01:18:47", "text": "You know, everybody was wobbly by the"}, {"start": "01:18:44", "end": "01:18:49", "text": "last day. I lost so So I wear a size 32"}, {"start": "01:18:47", "end": "01:18:51", "text": "pant and those pants were falling off of"}, {"start": "01:18:49", "end": "01:18:54", "text": "me by the last day. I had go probably go"}, {"start": "01:18:51", "end": "01:18:55", "text": "down like a like a 30 or something. And"}, {"start": "01:18:54", "end": "01:18:56", "text": "um"}, {"start": "01:18:55", "end": "01:19:00", "text": "Yeah, man. It's you know, there's so"}, {"start": "01:18:56", "end": "01:19:03", "text": "many things. And what's cool is"}, {"start": "01:19:00", "end": "01:19:05", "text": "I talk about this in in the expedition"}, {"start": "01:19:03", "end": "01:19:08", "text": "documentary. I basically say that you"}, {"start": "01:19:05", "end": "01:19:09", "text": "know, most expeditions the most dramatic"}, {"start": "01:19:08", "end": "01:19:12", "text": "part of it is never the discovery"}, {"start": "01:19:09", "end": "01:19:14", "text": "because one most expeditions don't find"}, {"start": "01:19:12", "end": "01:19:16", "text": "anything. You read through Percy"}, {"start": "01:19:14", "end": "01:19:18", "text": "Fawcett. He found a lot of cool stuff."}, {"start": "01:19:16", "end": "01:19:19", "text": "Never found what he was looking for."}, {"start": "01:19:18", "end": "01:19:21", "text": ">> That's right. Ernest Shackleton,"}, {"start": "01:19:19", "end": "01:19:24", "text": "greatest explorer of all time. Also the"}, {"start": "01:19:21", "end": "01:19:25", "text": "most unsuccessful explorer of all time."}, {"start": "01:19:24", "end": "01:19:27", "text": "The only reason he's famous is because"}, {"start": "01:19:25", "end": "01:19:29", "text": "he's a a failure, right? But he's"}, {"start": "01:19:27", "end": "01:19:32", "text": "actually"}, {"start": "01:19:29", "end": "01:19:33", "text": "such a a successful explorer because he"}, {"start": "01:19:32", "end": "01:19:35", "text": "was able to protect all of his men."}, {"start": "01:19:33", "end": "01:19:36", "text": "Nobody died on his expedition."}, {"start": "01:19:35", "end": "01:19:38", "text": ">> covered him. He was a great great Oh,"}, {"start": "01:19:36", "end": "01:19:41", "text": "did you really? Okay, yeah, yeah."}, {"start": "01:19:38", "end": "01:19:45", "text": "They just an amazing man. I'll tell you"}, {"start": "01:19:41", "end": "01:19:45", "text": "a great book to read is um"}, {"start": "01:19:45", "end": "01:19:50", "text": "Shackleton's Way."}, {"start": "01:19:47", "end": "01:19:52", "text": "It's it's a it's a guy who's a I think"}, {"start": "01:19:50", "end": "01:19:55", "text": "he's a psychologist and he studied"}, {"start": "01:19:52", "end": "01:19:57", "text": "Shackleton's story and wrote this book"}, {"start": "01:19:55", "end": "01:19:58", "text": "that it's maybe like a 6-hour Audible"}, {"start": "01:19:57", "end": "01:19:59", "text": "listen to."}, {"start": "01:19:58", "end": "01:20:01", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "01:19:59", "end": "01:20:03", "text": "and it it writes it basically"}, {"start": "01:20:01", "end": "01:20:05", "text": "encapsulates his whole philosophy."}, {"start": "01:20:03", "end": "01:20:07", "text": "Shackleton was writing a book on the"}, {"start": "01:20:05", "end": "01:20:08", "text": "philosophy of being explorer before he"}, {"start": "01:20:07", "end": "01:20:10", "text": "died and it was never published. He"}, {"start": "01:20:08", "end": "01:20:13", "text": "never he never finished it."}, {"start": "01:20:10", "end": "01:20:15", "text": "Um I'm pretty sure that's right. And so"}, {"start": "01:20:13", "end": "01:20:18", "text": "this guy kind of writes that book and"}, {"start": "01:20:15", "end": "01:20:19", "text": "it's fascinating hearing a psychologist"}, {"start": "01:20:18", "end": "01:20:22", "text": "go into why Shackleton would have made"}, {"start": "01:20:19", "end": "01:20:24", "text": "the decisions that he did. Um but"}, {"start": "01:20:22", "end": "01:20:25", "text": "getting out of there was the most"}, {"start": "01:20:24", "end": "01:20:28", "text": "dramatic Getting out of the helo was the"}, {"start": "01:20:25", "end": "01:20:29", "text": "most dramatic part because we were"}, {"start": "01:20:28", "end": "01:20:33", "text": "running low on food. Everybody was"}, {"start": "01:20:29", "end": "01:20:34", "text": "starting to get the wobbles. and"}, {"start": "01:20:33", "end": "01:20:35", "text": "and so [clears throat] we're at this"}, {"start": "01:20:34", "end": "01:20:38", "text": "point where"}, {"start": "01:20:35", "end": "01:20:40", "text": "we've got a we've got to cross 12 miles"}, {"start": "01:20:38", "end": "01:20:42", "text": "in a single day"}, {"start": "01:20:40", "end": "01:20:44", "text": "and then the next day we can decide if"}, {"start": "01:20:42", "end": "01:20:46", "text": "we want to go back through Iron Creek"}, {"start": "01:20:44", "end": "01:20:47", "text": "which was hell to get through."}, {"start": "01:20:46", "end": "01:20:49", "text": "It was so difficult to get through Iron"}, {"start": "01:20:47", "end": "01:20:52", "text": "Creek that most of it wasn't filmed"}, {"start": "01:20:49", "end": "01:20:54", "text": "because we all needed both hands to be"}, {"start": "01:20:52", "end": "01:20:55", "text": "able to hold on to the cliff sides and"}, {"start": "01:20:54", "end": "01:20:58", "text": "like all all the rubble is falling"}, {"start": "01:20:55", "end": "01:21:00", "text": "beneath you and everything. Um and so"}, {"start": "01:20:58", "end": "01:21:01", "text": "we'll go back through that and then that"}, {"start": "01:21:00", "end": "01:21:03", "text": "would take us all day and then we'd have"}, {"start": "01:21:01", "end": "01:21:06", "text": "to camp again and we'd have another day."}, {"start": "01:21:03", "end": "01:21:08", "text": "Why I told the guys I was like"}, {"start": "01:21:06", "end": "01:21:11", "text": "and nobody thought that it was possible"}, {"start": "01:21:08", "end": "01:21:12", "text": "until the morning of and I was telling"}, {"start": "01:21:11", "end": "01:21:15", "text": "the guys I was like I was like guys I"}, {"start": "01:21:12", "end": "01:21:16", "text": "can take us if we can climb up this mesa"}, {"start": "01:21:15", "end": "01:21:18", "text": "that's right in front of us we can get"}, {"start": "01:21:16", "end": "01:21:21", "text": "out of here in half a day rather than"}, {"start": "01:21:18", "end": "01:21:23", "text": "two more days of the expedition and and"}, {"start": "01:21:21", "end": "01:21:25", "text": "I don't know I don't know if if if"}, {"start": "01:21:23", "end": "01:21:26", "text": "everybody believed I I think that I"}, {"start": "01:21:25", "end": "01:21:28", "text": "think on the last day everybody was"}, {"start": "01:21:26", "end": "01:21:29", "text": "ready to go and they're like it"}, {"start": "01:21:28", "end": "01:21:31", "text": "let's do it."}, {"start": "01:21:29", "end": "01:21:32", "text": ">> it. Yeah yeah so but I can't I was"}, {"start": "01:21:31", "end": "01:21:33", "text": "telling the guys for days leading up to"}, {"start": "01:21:32", "end": "01:21:35", "text": "that I was like I was like I think we"}, {"start": "01:21:33", "end": "01:21:36", "text": "can go over that mesa and get out of"}, {"start": "01:21:35", "end": "01:21:38", "text": "here. I think we can I think we can. Of"}, {"start": "01:21:36", "end": "01:21:39", "text": "course you never know for certain and in"}, {"start": "01:21:38", "end": "01:21:41", "text": "my mind I'm like"}, {"start": "01:21:39", "end": "01:21:44", "text": "if if I'm wrong everybody's going to be"}, {"start": "01:21:41", "end": "01:21:45", "text": "fed up cuz you you think like oh it's"}, {"start": "01:21:44", "end": "01:21:47", "text": "not that big of a deal you just go back"}, {"start": "01:21:45", "end": "01:21:49", "text": "down blah blah blah. No when you're"}, {"start": "01:21:47", "end": "01:21:50", "text": "seven eight days in and you've been"}, {"start": "01:21:49", "end": "01:21:51", "text": "walking and walking and walking and"}, {"start": "01:21:50", "end": "01:21:54", "text": "walking and walking and you're low on"}, {"start": "01:21:51", "end": "01:21:56", "text": "calories you're not in normal life"}, {"start": "01:21:54", "end": "01:21:57", "text": "anymore. You're now out in the field"}, {"start": "01:21:56", "end": "01:21:59", "text": "you're your vision's much more like"}, {"start": "01:21:57", "end": "01:22:00", "text": "dialed in You're surviving now. You're"}, {"start": "01:21:59", "end": "01:22:02", "text": "not exploring."}, {"start": "01:22:00", "end": "01:22:03", "text": ">> Yeah and the small things that happen to"}, {"start": "01:22:02", "end": "01:22:04", "text": "you are more significant. You don't"}, {"start": "01:22:03", "end": "01:22:06", "text": "think about the fact that like oh well"}, {"start": "01:22:04", "end": "01:22:07", "text": "it's just a walk down there and it's"}, {"start": "01:22:06", "end": "01:22:11", "text": "another day. You're like I got to do"}, {"start": "01:22:07", "end": "01:22:13", "text": "this another day and especially"}, {"start": "01:22:11", "end": "01:22:15", "text": "when maybe like like if you're not the"}, {"start": "01:22:13", "end": "01:22:17", "text": "leader of the expedition I'm emotionally"}, {"start": "01:22:15", "end": "01:22:19", "text": "financially"}, {"start": "01:22:17", "end": "01:22:22", "text": "as invested check off everything I'm"}, {"start": "01:22:19", "end": "01:22:23", "text": "that invested so you know"}, {"start": "01:22:22", "end": "01:22:25", "text": "my thought process is different than the"}, {"start": "01:22:23", "end": "01:22:27", "text": "guys that I'm looking out for right and"}, {"start": "01:22:25", "end": "01:22:27", "text": "so so, a lot of psychology there of of"}, {"start": "01:22:27", "end": "01:22:30", "text": "uh"}, {"start": "01:22:27", "end": "01:22:32", "text": "you know, being a leader. And um um Did"}, {"start": "01:22:30", "end": "01:22:33", "text": "you get over that mesa? Yeah, we got"}, {"start": "01:22:32", "end": "01:22:36", "text": "over it and we were out in half a day."}, {"start": "01:22:33", "end": "01:22:38", "text": "So, I was luckily I I was right. Um and"}, {"start": "01:22:36", "end": "01:22:39", "text": "so, uh I I was That was That was the"}, {"start": "01:22:38", "end": "01:22:41", "text": "coolest part of the expedition was just"}, {"start": "01:22:39", "end": "01:22:44", "text": "getting everybody out way faster than we"}, {"start": "01:22:41", "end": "01:22:46", "text": "expected and getting to the nearest gas"}, {"start": "01:22:44", "end": "01:22:48", "text": "station, which was like 2 and 1/2 hours"}, {"start": "01:22:46", "end": "01:22:50", "text": "away. What did that feel like? Oh, man."}, {"start": "01:22:48", "end": "01:22:53", "text": "We got Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, yeah. So,"}, {"start": "01:22:50", "end": "01:22:57", "text": "we got we got Gatorade."}, {"start": "01:22:53", "end": "01:22:59", "text": "We got uh Ruffles. We got uh beef jerky."}, {"start": "01:22:57", "end": "01:23:00", "text": "We got Skittles. We got ice cream"}, {"start": "01:22:59", "end": "01:23:01", "text": "sandwiches."}, {"start": "01:23:00", "end": "01:23:03", "text": ">> to be so good."}, {"start": "01:23:01", "end": "01:23:05", "text": ">> Chocolate Oh, it was My My buddy's truck"}, {"start": "01:23:03", "end": "01:23:06", "text": "was just filled with trash."}, {"start": "01:23:05", "end": "01:23:08", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "01:23:06", "end": "01:23:10", "text": ">> And uh and we So, we gorged after that"}, {"start": "01:23:08", "end": "01:23:12", "text": "and and that was It was It was great,"}, {"start": "01:23:10", "end": "01:23:15", "text": "man. Um"}, {"start": "01:23:12", "end": "01:23:17", "text": "ultimately, the expedition we um"}, {"start": "01:23:15", "end": "01:23:19", "text": "we didn't even find any artifacts like"}, {"start": "01:23:17", "end": "01:23:21", "text": "on the rivers. Now, we could have spent"}, {"start": "01:23:19", "end": "01:23:23", "text": "more time like looking for arrowheads"}, {"start": "01:23:21", "end": "01:23:25", "text": "and stuff, but we we just didn't have"}, {"start": "01:23:23", "end": "01:23:27", "text": "time to do that. And uh and and the"}, {"start": "01:23:25", "end": "01:23:29", "text": "river was like brutal cold. Even sitting"}, {"start": "01:23:27", "end": "01:23:30", "text": "next to the river, the wind coming off"}, {"start": "01:23:29", "end": "01:23:34", "text": "of it, dude, your body temperature"}, {"start": "01:23:30", "end": "01:23:35", "text": "dropped so fast even in the day. Um"}, {"start": "01:23:34", "end": "01:23:38", "text": "and uh"}, {"start": "01:23:35", "end": "01:23:40", "text": "we found we found a site that really"}, {"start": "01:23:38", "end": "01:23:42", "text": "looked like it would have been an"}, {"start": "01:23:40", "end": "01:23:44", "text": "archaeological site. And had I spent a"}, {"start": "01:23:42", "end": "01:23:46", "text": "week there dedicated sleeping at that"}, {"start": "01:23:44", "end": "01:23:48", "text": "site, surveying it and looking around"}, {"start": "01:23:46", "end": "01:23:49", "text": "for just any kind of ground artifacts,"}, {"start": "01:23:48", "end": "01:23:51", "text": "we could have confirmed it was a site,"}, {"start": "01:23:49", "end": "01:23:53", "text": "but we just weren't able to, especially"}, {"start": "01:23:51", "end": "01:23:55", "text": "not with like the calorie restrictions."}, {"start": "01:23:53", "end": "01:23:58", "text": "Like, we lost probably 2 days of survey"}, {"start": "01:23:55", "end": "01:23:59", "text": "just because we were so short on food."}, {"start": "01:23:58", "end": "01:24:01", "text": "So, uh we had to get back out of there,"}, {"start": "01:23:59", "end": "01:24:02", "text": "but all in all, the the main thing I"}, {"start": "01:24:01", "end": "01:24:04", "text": "learned was that it's not going to go"}, {"start": "01:24:02", "end": "01:24:06", "text": "the way you think, and you're going to"}, {"start": "01:24:04", "end": "01:24:08", "text": "be a lot slower than you think that you"}, {"start": "01:24:06", "end": "01:24:10", "text": "are, and things are going to get like a"}, {"start": "01:24:08", "end": "01:24:11", "text": "wrench is going to get thrown into your"}, {"start": "01:24:10", "end": "01:24:12", "text": "plan."}, {"start": "01:24:11", "end": "01:24:14", "text": ">> And um"}, {"start": "01:24:12", "end": "01:24:15", "text": "yeah, that that's probably the biggest"}, {"start": "01:24:14", "end": "01:24:17", "text": "thing is is the same lesson you hear"}, {"start": "01:24:15", "end": "01:24:19", "text": "from every other explorer is that is"}, {"start": "01:24:17", "end": "01:24:20", "text": "that it's going to be a lot longer and a"}, {"start": "01:24:19", "end": "01:24:22", "text": "lot harder than you think, and all the"}, {"start": "01:24:20", "end": "01:24:24", "text": "things you think are going to happen are"}, {"start": "01:24:22", "end": "01:24:26", "text": "not going to happen that way, and it's"}, {"start": "01:24:24", "end": "01:24:29", "text": "going to go wrong. Um"}, {"start": "01:24:26", "end": "01:24:32", "text": "So, you know, I probably I probably am a"}, {"start": "01:24:29", "end": "01:24:34", "text": "fraction of a step closer to being more"}, {"start": "01:24:32", "end": "01:24:35", "text": "well prepared for the next expedition."}, {"start": "01:24:34", "end": "01:24:37", "text": "Yeah, things are still going to go"}, {"start": "01:24:35", "end": "01:24:39", "text": "wrong. Yeah, yeah. So, so that's"}, {"start": "01:24:37", "end": "01:24:39", "text": "basically where I'm at now, and"}, {"start": "01:24:39", "end": "01:24:41", "text": "um"}, {"start": "01:24:39", "end": "01:24:44", "text": "uh so, the three expedition projects I'm"}, {"start": "01:24:41", "end": "01:24:46", "text": "planning now are uh across the American"}, {"start": "01:24:44", "end": "01:24:47", "text": "Southeast rebuilding the Mountain"}, {"start": "01:24:46", "end": "01:24:50", "text": "Builder world."}, {"start": "01:24:47", "end": "01:24:51", "text": "Uh working with Terra Terran Cognita"}, {"start": "01:24:50", "end": "01:24:52", "text": "Research Institute, and Basecamp we're"}, {"start": "01:24:51", "end": "01:24:53", "text": "trying to get the permissions to"}, {"start": "01:24:52", "end": "01:24:55", "text": ">> We're going to cover all this."}, {"start": "01:24:53", "end": "01:24:57", "text": ">> scan in the Amazon. Yeah, yeah. We'll"}, {"start": "01:24:55", "end": "01:24:58", "text": "cover all that. And when we come back, I"}, {"start": "01:24:57", "end": "01:25:00", "text": "want your take on one of my favorite"}, {"start": "01:24:58", "end": "01:25:02", "text": "ancient stories that uh"}, {"start": "01:25:00", "end": "01:25:05", "text": "it all starts with a corpse."}, {"start": "01:25:02", "end": "01:25:06", "text": "Oh, really? Okay, cool, cool, cool."}, {"start": "01:25:05", "end": "01:25:08", "text": "Have you ever heard about this a city"}, {"start": "01:25:06", "end": "01:25:10", "text": "called Alexandria? I've heard about it"}, {"start": "01:25:08", "end": "01:25:11", "text": "once or twice. So"}, {"start": "01:25:10", "end": "01:25:14", "text": ">> Been there once or twice."}, {"start": "01:25:11", "end": "01:25:17", "text": "So, I I showed you earlier that I wear a"}, {"start": "01:25:14", "end": "01:25:19", "text": "um it was a gift from my wife. It's uh"}, {"start": "01:25:17", "end": "01:25:23", "text": "it's a tetradrachm. It's it's uh"}, {"start": "01:25:19", "end": "01:25:23", "text": "Heracles is the is stamped"}, {"start": "01:25:23", "end": "01:25:25", "text": ">> [snorts]"}, {"start": "01:25:23", "end": "01:25:27", "text": ">> uh just about 10 years after um"}, {"start": "01:25:25", "end": "01:25:29", "text": "Alexander the Great died. So, I'm a fan"}, {"start": "01:25:27", "end": "01:25:31", "text": "of his. Could you tell us his life story"}, {"start": "01:25:29", "end": "01:25:34", "text": "really quick, but I really really want"}, {"start": "01:25:31", "end": "01:25:37", "text": "to know where his body went. Yeah, yeah."}, {"start": "01:25:34", "end": "01:25:39", "text": "Uh well, Alexander"}, {"start": "01:25:37", "end": "01:25:41", "text": "probably I mean, probably the most"}, {"start": "01:25:39", "end": "01:25:42", "text": "exceptional person that lived in the"}, {"start": "01:25:41", "end": "01:25:43", "text": "ancient world. Like, I think the only"}, {"start": "01:25:42", "end": "01:25:45", "text": "guy who"}, {"start": "01:25:43", "end": "01:25:50", "text": "really comes close is probably Julius"}, {"start": "01:25:45", "end": "01:25:51", "text": "Caesar, but uh even Caesar not not the"}, {"start": "01:25:50", "end": "01:25:54", "text": "I don't know, the kind of"}, {"start": "01:25:51", "end": "01:25:57", "text": "crazy enigma that Alexander was. He's"}, {"start": "01:25:54", "end": "01:26:00", "text": "this kid that's born in Northern Greece"}, {"start": "01:25:57", "end": "01:26:01", "text": "in this fringe Greek kingdom."}, {"start": "01:26:00", "end": "01:26:02", "text": ">> [cough and clears throat]"}, {"start": "01:26:01", "end": "01:26:04", "text": ">> You know, at this at this point, a lot"}, {"start": "01:26:02", "end": "01:26:06", "text": "of the Greek world uh"}, {"start": "01:26:04", "end": "01:26:08", "text": "I don't know if they're you know,"}, {"start": "01:26:06", "end": "01:26:10", "text": "Platonic, but they're heavily influenced"}, {"start": "01:26:08", "end": "01:26:11", "text": "by by Athens and Sparta."}, {"start": "01:26:10", "end": "01:26:13", "text": "They have this different way of life"}, {"start": "01:26:11", "end": "01:26:15", "text": "than the Macedonians do up in up in"}, {"start": "01:26:13", "end": "01:26:17", "text": "Northern Greece. And in fact, if you're"}, {"start": "01:26:15", "end": "01:26:19", "text": "Athenian, you might not even see the"}, {"start": "01:26:17", "end": "01:26:20", "text": "Macedonians as being Greek. You might"}, {"start": "01:26:19", "end": "01:26:23", "text": "see them as like barbarian Greek, right?"}, {"start": "01:26:20", "end": "01:26:24", "text": "So, he's born in this fringe place and"}, {"start": "01:26:23", "end": "01:26:27", "text": "you know, actually,"}, {"start": "01:26:24", "end": "01:26:29", "text": "uh Philip, his father,"}, {"start": "01:26:27", "end": "01:26:31", "text": "is also"}, {"start": "01:26:29", "end": "01:26:33", "text": "maybe just as miraculous a story because"}, {"start": "01:26:31", "end": "01:26:34", "text": "he's a king"}, {"start": "01:26:33", "end": "01:26:36", "text": "in northern Macedonia that's so"}, {"start": "01:26:34", "end": "01:26:40", "text": "intelligent,"}, {"start": "01:26:36", "end": "01:26:42", "text": "he manipulates all of the Greek world to"}, {"start": "01:26:40", "end": "01:26:45", "text": "falling under his control. He becomes"}, {"start": "01:26:42", "end": "01:26:47", "text": "the king of Greece. I I'm I'm no expert"}, {"start": "01:26:45", "end": "01:26:50", "text": "really on on Philip. I just know that"}, {"start": "01:26:47", "end": "01:26:52", "text": "I know that the story is so impressive"}, {"start": "01:26:50", "end": "01:26:54", "text": "and nuanced because I have stayed away"}, {"start": "01:26:52", "end": "01:26:56", "text": "from diving into it because I know it's"}, {"start": "01:26:54", "end": "01:26:59", "text": "going to be a huge rabbit hole. But, um"}, {"start": "01:26:56", "end": "01:27:00", "text": "essentially, the Greek world is"}, {"start": "01:26:59", "end": "01:27:03", "text": "just a collection of city-states and"}, {"start": "01:27:00", "end": "01:27:04", "text": "most of these city-states are not They"}, {"start": "01:27:03", "end": "01:27:07", "text": "don't have a"}, {"start": "01:27:04", "end": "01:27:09", "text": "maybe all of them other than Sparta"}, {"start": "01:27:07", "end": "01:27:12", "text": "do not have a government that's set up"}, {"start": "01:27:09", "end": "01:27:14", "text": "with a monarch or an emperor in charge,"}, {"start": "01:27:12", "end": "01:27:17", "text": "right? And so,"}, {"start": "01:27:14", "end": "01:27:19", "text": "Philip is able to unite all of the Greek"}, {"start": "01:27:17", "end": "01:27:22", "text": "world under his power in Macedonia. So,"}, {"start": "01:27:19", "end": "01:27:24", "text": "in one lifetime,"}, {"start": "01:27:22", "end": "01:27:28", "text": "all of the Macedonian Greek kings born"}, {"start": "01:27:24", "end": "01:27:30", "text": "before Alexander are like minor rulers"}, {"start": "01:27:28", "end": "01:27:32", "text": "that aren't very powerful. Macedonia is"}, {"start": "01:27:30", "end": "01:27:33", "text": "not even on the map. If you ask most"}, {"start": "01:27:32", "end": "01:27:34", "text": "Greeks, \"Where's Macedonia?\" They're"}, {"start": "01:27:33", "end": "01:27:36", "text": "like, \"I don't know.\" I don't even know"}, {"start": "01:27:34", "end": "01:27:39", "text": "what that is."}, {"start": "01:27:36", "end": "01:27:41", "text": "One lifetime, this guy is born in an"}, {"start": "01:27:39", "end": "01:27:43", "text": "obscure kingdom"}, {"start": "01:27:41", "end": "01:27:45", "text": "and becomes basically emperor or king of"}, {"start": "01:27:43", "end": "01:27:46", "text": "all of Greece. He unites the entire"}, {"start": "01:27:45", "end": "01:27:48", "text": "Greek world underneath him. This is It's"}, {"start": "01:27:46", "end": "01:27:48", "text": "like Game of Thrones the way he's able"}, {"start": "01:27:48", "end": "01:27:49", "text": "to do it."}, {"start": "01:27:48", "end": "01:27:51", "text": ">> And this is probably a thousand"}, {"start": "01:27:49", "end": "01:27:53", "text": "city-states. It's a lot. [clears throat]"}, {"start": "01:27:51", "end": "01:27:54", "text": "It's a lot, yeah."}, {"start": "01:27:53", "end": "01:27:57", "text": ">> And they're constantly fighting with"}, {"start": "01:27:54", "end": "01:27:59", "text": "each other. So powerful that he"}, {"start": "01:27:57", "end": "01:28:02", "text": "I believe basically had control of"}, {"start": "01:27:59", "end": "01:28:04", "text": "Athens and told Aristotle, \"You are"}, {"start": "01:28:02", "end": "01:28:06", "text": "going to come up to Macedonia and tutor"}, {"start": "01:28:04", "end": "01:28:06", "text": "and tutor my tutor my son.\" That's"}, {"start": "01:28:06", "end": "01:28:08", "text": "right."}, {"start": "01:28:06", "end": "01:28:10", "text": ">> So, that guy's story, to be able to"}, {"start": "01:28:08", "end": "01:28:13", "text": "conquer the Greek world in itself, is"}, {"start": "01:28:10", "end": "01:28:16", "text": "mind-blowing. And then his son turns"}, {"start": "01:28:13", "end": "01:28:18", "text": "around and you know, so"}, {"start": "01:28:16", "end": "01:28:18", "text": ">> [sighs]"}, {"start": "01:28:18", "end": "01:28:22", "text": ">> we don't really know why Philip died or"}, {"start": "01:28:21", "end": "01:28:24", "text": "why he was assassinated. You know,"}, {"start": "01:28:22", "end": "01:28:27", "text": "there's all these stories about like his"}, {"start": "01:28:24", "end": "01:28:28", "text": "lover this that and the other. There's"}, {"start": "01:28:27", "end": "01:28:30", "text": "But the reality is nobody really knows."}, {"start": "01:28:28", "end": "01:28:31", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "01:28:30", "end": "01:28:34", "text": "one of the popular ideas is that"}, {"start": "01:28:31", "end": "01:28:36", "text": "Alexander thought that Persia had sent"}, {"start": "01:28:34", "end": "01:28:38", "text": "assassins to"}, {"start": "01:28:36", "end": "01:28:39", "text": "to assassinate Philip, but that may or"}, {"start": "01:28:38", "end": "01:28:43", "text": "may not be true."}, {"start": "01:28:39", "end": "01:28:46", "text": "But he certainly uses it to gather the"}, {"start": "01:28:43", "end": "01:28:48", "text": "Greek armies and turn his sights towards"}, {"start": "01:28:46", "end": "01:28:51", "text": "turn his sights towards Persia because I"}, {"start": "01:28:48", "end": "01:28:54", "text": "believe that that Philip did want to"}, {"start": "01:28:51", "end": "01:28:56", "text": "do a run across the Turkish coast and"}, {"start": "01:28:54", "end": "01:28:57", "text": "free some of those Greek uh"}, {"start": "01:28:56", "end": "01:29:00", "text": "cities that are living there. And so"}, {"start": "01:28:57", "end": "01:29:02", "text": "that's what Alexander starts out doing."}, {"start": "01:29:00", "end": "01:29:05", "text": "Well, within just a few battles between"}, {"start": "01:29:02", "end": "01:29:07", "text": "like age 23 and 25,"}, {"start": "01:29:05", "end": "01:29:09", "text": "he he has some of these key decisive"}, {"start": "01:29:07", "end": "01:29:10", "text": "victories. And you know, ancient wars"}, {"start": "01:29:09", "end": "01:29:11", "text": "are not like fighting every single day,"}, {"start": "01:29:10", "end": "01:29:14", "text": "they're doing this that and the other."}, {"start": "01:29:11", "end": "01:29:16", "text": "It's just a few battles in one war. And"}, {"start": "01:29:14", "end": "01:29:17", "text": "sometimes they can be months or years"}, {"start": "01:29:16", "end": "01:29:19", "text": "apart from each other, but if they lose"}, {"start": "01:29:17", "end": "01:29:20", "text": "that battle,"}, {"start": "01:29:19", "end": "01:29:22", "text": "their territory is just crippled, you"}, {"start": "01:29:20", "end": "01:29:26", "text": "know? Um so in a few [clears throat]"}, {"start": "01:29:22", "end": "01:29:27", "text": "decisive battles, he essentially pushes"}, {"start": "01:29:26", "end": "01:29:29", "text": "the Persian Empire all the way back to"}, {"start": "01:29:27", "end": "01:29:31", "text": "Babylon. They don't have Anatolia"}, {"start": "01:29:29", "end": "01:29:33", "text": "anymore. And then he moves down to Egypt"}, {"start": "01:29:31", "end": "01:29:36", "text": "and he and he never loses. He never"}, {"start": "01:29:33", "end": "01:29:39", "text": "loses never loses a battle. And he at"}, {"start": "01:29:36", "end": "01:29:41", "text": "least not yet. In In India, he kind of"}, {"start": "01:29:39", "end": "01:29:42", "text": "they kind of keep him out of India. I"}, {"start": "01:29:41", "end": "01:29:44", "text": "think he vastly underestimated how big"}, {"start": "01:29:42", "end": "01:29:45", "text": "India was. But"}, {"start": "01:29:44", "end": "01:29:47", "text": ">> [clears throat]"}, {"start": "01:29:45", "end": "01:29:50", "text": ">> rather than pushing into Babylon and"}, {"start": "01:29:47", "end": "01:29:51", "text": "conquering Babylon, uh his advisors tell"}, {"start": "01:29:50", "end": "01:29:54", "text": "him that he needs to turn around and"}, {"start": "01:29:51", "end": "01:29:57", "text": "head uh west to go secure the"}, {"start": "01:29:54", "end": "01:29:59", "text": "breadbasket of the Persian Empire. Which"}, {"start": "01:29:57", "end": "01:30:01", "text": "what fed the Persian Empire, what fed"}, {"start": "01:29:59", "end": "01:30:03", "text": "their whole army is the grain that's"}, {"start": "01:30:01", "end": "01:30:05", "text": "coming coming from the Nile. It's the"}, {"start": "01:30:03", "end": "01:30:07", "text": "most fertile place in the ancient world."}, {"start": "01:30:05", "end": "01:30:09", "text": "So he he goes in he he shows up to Egypt"}, {"start": "01:30:07", "end": "01:30:11", "text": "and the Egyptians basically welcome"}, {"start": "01:30:09", "end": "01:30:14", "text": "Alexander with open arms because the"}, {"start": "01:30:11", "end": "01:30:17", "text": "Egyptians hated Persian Pharaohs. Uh the"}, {"start": "01:30:14", "end": "01:30:19", "text": "very first um we don't really know if"}, {"start": "01:30:17", "end": "01:30:21", "text": "this happens, but the one of the stories"}, {"start": "01:30:19", "end": "01:30:24", "text": "that's passed down is Camp Isis, which"}, {"start": "01:30:21", "end": "01:30:27", "text": "is the first Persian ruler who becomes"}, {"start": "01:30:24", "end": "01:30:29", "text": "Pharaoh in Egypt uh when he shows up at"}, {"start": "01:30:27", "end": "01:30:31", "text": "Egypt he kills I think he stabs the"}, {"start": "01:30:29", "end": "01:30:35", "text": "sacred Apis bull together uh he stabs it"}, {"start": "01:30:31", "end": "01:30:37", "text": "to death. And uh at this point"}, {"start": "01:30:35", "end": "01:30:40", "text": "probably from about 1,000 BC to the end"}, {"start": "01:30:37", "end": "01:30:42", "text": "of Egyptian culture"}, {"start": "01:30:40", "end": "01:30:43", "text": "uh like 325 BC, that's when Constantine"}, {"start": "01:30:42", "end": "01:30:46", "text": "shuts down all the temples and"}, {"start": "01:30:43", "end": "01:30:49", "text": "everything. The Apis bull is basically"}, {"start": "01:30:46", "end": "01:30:52", "text": "the main deity at this point. And so the"}, {"start": "01:30:49", "end": "01:30:55", "text": "story is that Camp Isis in like 525 BC"}, {"start": "01:30:52", "end": "01:30:57", "text": "stabs the uh stabs the Apis bull to"}, {"start": "01:30:55", "end": "01:30:59", "text": "death, which just a a massive middle"}, {"start": "01:30:57", "end": "01:31:00", "text": "finger to to the Egyptian culture. They"}, {"start": "01:30:59", "end": "01:31:02", "text": "can't stand the Persians. So they"}, {"start": "01:31:00", "end": "01:31:04", "text": "essentially welcome Alexander with open"}, {"start": "01:31:02", "end": "01:31:05", "text": "arms. And Egypt has a diplomatic"}, {"start": "01:31:04", "end": "01:31:07", "text": "relationship with Greece at this point"}, {"start": "01:31:05", "end": "01:31:08", "text": "anyway. Right, Pythagoras is going back"}, {"start": "01:31:07", "end": "01:31:09", "text": "and forth"}, {"start": "01:31:08", "end": "01:31:10", "text": ">> Mhm. trading mathematical ideas."}, {"start": "01:31:09", "end": "01:31:13", "text": ">> they they had known each other for a"}, {"start": "01:31:10", "end": "01:31:15", "text": "very long time. Um and they had always"}, {"start": "01:31:13", "end": "01:31:17", "text": "you know the the the Egyptians as far as"}, {"start": "01:31:15", "end": "01:31:19", "text": "we know had always been"}, {"start": "01:31:17", "end": "01:31:21", "text": "open and kind to Greece coming down."}, {"start": "01:31:19", "end": "01:31:24", "text": "Herodotus comes to visit, Solon comes to"}, {"start": "01:31:21", "end": "01:31:25", "text": "visit. I can keep going on. Um"}, {"start": "01:31:24", "end": "01:31:27", "text": "so [clears throat]"}, {"start": "01:31:25", "end": "01:31:30", "text": "So he doesn't necessarily Alexander"}, {"start": "01:31:27", "end": "01:31:31", "text": "conquer Egypt as much as"}, {"start": "01:31:30", "end": "01:31:34", "text": "shows up and secures it."}, {"start": "01:31:31", "end": "01:31:36", "text": ">> As much as um"}, {"start": "01:31:34", "end": "01:31:37", "text": "The Egyptians know that they have no"}, {"start": "01:31:36", "end": "01:31:39", "text": "standing army. They're not going to be"}, {"start": "01:31:37", "end": "01:31:41", "text": "able to stop Alexander from coming in,"}, {"start": "01:31:39", "end": "01:31:43", "text": "but they know that maybe if they welcome"}, {"start": "01:31:41", "end": "01:31:46", "text": "him with open arms he'll be a better"}, {"start": "01:31:43", "end": "01:31:48", "text": "ruler over them than the Persians had"}, {"start": "01:31:46", "end": "01:31:49", "text": "been. Which which probably would have"}, {"start": "01:31:48", "end": "01:31:51", "text": "been the case."}, {"start": "01:31:49", "end": "01:31:53", "text": "Uh it actually was the case. I mean"}, {"start": "01:31:51", "end": "01:31:54", "text": "really what happened from Alexander"}, {"start": "01:31:53", "end": "01:31:57", "text": "coming [snorts] into Egypt and the"}, {"start": "01:31:54", "end": "01:31:59", "text": "Ptolemies later becoming that was a lot"}, {"start": "01:31:57", "end": "01:32:02", "text": "better for Egypt than than the Persians."}, {"start": "01:31:59", "end": "01:32:04", "text": "But um but they essentially welcome"}, {"start": "01:32:02", "end": "01:32:05", "text": "Alexander with open arms as much as they"}, {"start": "01:32:04", "end": "01:32:06", "text": "can, you know."}, {"start": "01:32:05", "end": "01:32:08", "text": "Um, there's nothing they're going to do"}, {"start": "01:32:06", "end": "01:32:11", "text": "about it. And so Alexander comes to"}, {"start": "01:32:08", "end": "01:32:12", "text": "Memphis. He probably sees the pyramids."}, {"start": "01:32:11", "end": "01:32:14", "text": "Um,"}, {"start": "01:32:12", "end": "01:32:16", "text": "I wish that we had surviving records of"}, {"start": "01:32:14", "end": "01:32:17", "text": "that. We There would have been uh"}, {"start": "01:32:16", "end": "01:32:19", "text": "Ptolemy, his best friend, is with him"}, {"start": "01:32:17", "end": "01:32:20", "text": "this whole time. He wrote an account of"}, {"start": "01:32:19", "end": "01:32:22", "text": "all of this either during his life or"}, {"start": "01:32:20", "end": "01:32:25", "text": "later in his life."}, {"start": "01:32:22", "end": "01:32:28", "text": "Those were lost probably with the"}, {"start": "01:32:25", "end": "01:32:30", "text": "library being destroyed so many times."}, {"start": "01:32:28", "end": "01:32:32", "text": "But all of these accounts that we have"}, {"start": "01:32:30", "end": "01:32:33", "text": "like from Plutarch and"}, {"start": "01:32:32", "end": "01:32:34", "text": "uh what is it?"}, {"start": "01:32:33", "end": "01:32:36", "text": "Is it Arrian?"}, {"start": "01:32:34", "end": "01:32:38", "text": "Um, one of the all these accounts of"}, {"start": "01:32:36", "end": "01:32:42", "text": "Alexander's lives of his life, they're"}, {"start": "01:32:38", "end": "01:32:45", "text": "drawing on Ptolemy's uh writings, which"}, {"start": "01:32:42", "end": "01:32:47", "text": "they had access to, but we don't."}, {"start": "01:32:45", "end": "01:32:49", "text": "So, there's so who knows how many small"}, {"start": "01:32:47", "end": "01:32:51", "text": "details Ptolemy wrote that's, you know,"}, {"start": "01:32:49", "end": "01:32:52", "text": "for whatever reason ancient authors were"}, {"start": "01:32:51", "end": "01:32:54", "text": "like, \"Ah, well, I'm not going to repeat"}, {"start": "01:32:52", "end": "01:32:55", "text": "that part, but you know, whatever.\" So,"}, {"start": "01:32:54", "end": "01:32:55", "text": "um"}, {"start": "01:32:55", "end": "01:32:57", "text": ">> [clears throat]"}, {"start": "01:32:55", "end": "01:33:00", "text": ">> So, Alexander to become officially"}, {"start": "01:32:57", "end": "01:33:02", "text": "pharaoh of Egypt,"}, {"start": "01:33:00", "end": "01:33:04", "text": "they have to make this pilgrimage the"}, {"start": "01:33:02", "end": "01:33:06", "text": "Siwa Oasis."}, {"start": "01:33:04", "end": "01:33:08", "text": "So, they cross this vast desert out in"}, {"start": "01:33:06", "end": "01:33:11", "text": "out in the western Egypt, and he meets"}, {"start": "01:33:08", "end": "01:33:15", "text": "with the Oracle of Zeus Ammon, which is"}, {"start": "01:33:11", "end": "01:33:17", "text": "basically a fusion of Amun-Ra and Zeus."}, {"start": "01:33:15", "end": "01:33:19", "text": "And so, this Oracle goes and performs"}, {"start": "01:33:17", "end": "01:33:20", "text": "this"}, {"start": "01:33:19", "end": "01:33:22", "text": "ritual or whatever where they where they"}, {"start": "01:33:20", "end": "01:33:24", "text": "become overcome with the presence of"}, {"start": "01:33:22", "end": "01:33:25", "text": "this god, and they come out, and they"}, {"start": "01:33:24", "end": "01:33:27", "text": "essentially give this confirmation to"}, {"start": "01:33:25", "end": "01:33:33", "text": "Alexander and to the Egyptians,"}, {"start": "01:33:27", "end": "01:33:35", "text": "he is the literal or adoptive son of"}, {"start": "01:33:33", "end": "01:33:38", "text": "Zeus Ammon, right? So, it's this the"}, {"start": "01:33:35", "end": "01:33:40", "text": "Oracle has said that you now have the"}, {"start": "01:33:38", "end": "01:33:42", "text": "blessing of the gods to become pharaoh."}, {"start": "01:33:40", "end": "01:33:45", "text": "Um, so he So, Alexander in that moment"}, {"start": "01:33:42", "end": "01:33:46", "text": "becomes a god, which is kind of one of"}, {"start": "01:33:45", "end": "01:33:48", "text": "the interesting things, one of the only"}, {"start": "01:33:46", "end": "01:33:50", "text": "places in the ancient world. Like a"}, {"start": "01:33:48", "end": "01:33:52", "text": "Roman emperor is a politician. A Greek"}, {"start": "01:33:50", "end": "01:33:53", "text": "king is a king."}, {"start": "01:33:52", "end": "01:33:55", "text": "Roman emperors get assassinated and"}, {"start": "01:33:53", "end": "01:33:56", "text": "killed all the time. You know, Roman"}, {"start": "01:33:55", "end": "01:33:57", "text": "emperors like uh"}, {"start": "01:33:56", "end": "01:34:00", "text": "um"}, {"start": "01:33:57", "end": "01:34:01", "text": "I believe it's the deadliest job in"}, {"start": "01:34:00", "end": "01:34:02", "text": "human history. Have you ever seen this"}, {"start": "01:34:01", "end": "01:34:04", "text": "stat before?"}, {"start": "01:34:02", "end": "01:34:05", "text": ">> I haven't, but I believe it. Yeah, it's"}, {"start": "01:34:04", "end": "01:34:08", "text": "it's something crazy. It's like if you"}, {"start": "01:34:05", "end": "01:34:12", "text": "became a Roman emperor, you had a"}, {"start": "01:34:08", "end": "01:34:13", "text": "like a 47% chance of dying on the job."}, {"start": "01:34:12", "end": "01:34:16", "text": "Something like that, you know, being"}, {"start": "01:34:13", "end": "01:34:18", "text": "being assassinated. Um"}, {"start": "01:34:16", "end": "01:34:19", "text": "so, uh"}, {"start": "01:34:18", "end": "01:34:22", "text": "Roman emperors get killed. They're not"}, {"start": "01:34:19", "end": "01:34:24", "text": "seen necessarily they try to show"}, {"start": "01:34:22", "end": "01:34:25", "text": "themselves as divine beings, but they're"}, {"start": "01:34:24", "end": "01:34:27", "text": "not seen that way. Kings get"}, {"start": "01:34:25", "end": "01:34:30", "text": "assassinated, but pharaohs are something"}, {"start": "01:34:27", "end": "01:34:31", "text": "different. They're they're godly, right?"}, {"start": "01:34:30", "end": "01:34:33", "text": "Um they're they're"}, {"start": "01:34:31", "end": "01:34:35", "text": "part deity."}, {"start": "01:34:33", "end": "01:34:35", "text": "And Alexander played into that role"}, {"start": "01:34:35", "end": "01:34:37", "text": "where"}, {"start": "01:34:35", "end": "01:34:39", "text": ">> He played He played into it, and"}, {"start": "01:34:37", "end": "01:34:42", "text": "probably he was"}, {"start": "01:34:39", "end": "01:34:43", "text": "uh we don't really know if it's"}, {"start": "01:34:42", "end": "01:34:46", "text": "He definitely knows that it is"}, {"start": "01:34:43", "end": "01:34:47", "text": "advantageous for him to play into it."}, {"start": "01:34:46", "end": "01:34:49", "text": "The real question is how much did he"}, {"start": "01:34:47", "end": "01:34:51", "text": "believe it, you know? Um"}, {"start": "01:34:49", "end": "01:34:53", "text": "he probably did believe He probably did"}, {"start": "01:34:51", "end": "01:34:56", "text": "believe it. He He was enamored by the"}, {"start": "01:34:53", "end": "01:34:57", "text": "stories uh you know, Homer uh the Iliad"}, {"start": "01:34:56", "end": "01:34:59", "text": "and the Odyssey. He loved the the"}, {"start": "01:34:57", "end": "01:35:02", "text": "legends of of the Greek world. Because"}, {"start": "01:34:59", "end": "01:35:03", "text": "of Aristotle."}, {"start": "01:35:02", "end": "01:35:05", "text": "Maybe. I mean, I don't know if we if we"}, {"start": "01:35:03", "end": "01:35:07", "text": "know, you know, why his fascination"}, {"start": "01:35:05", "end": "01:35:08", "text": "happened. I mean, it definitely"}, {"start": "01:35:07", "end": "01:35:10", "text": "Aristotle"}, {"start": "01:35:08", "end": "01:35:13", "text": "uh influenced him, but you know, that's"}, {"start": "01:35:10", "end": "01:35:15", "text": "interesting because Aristotle is a you"}, {"start": "01:35:13", "end": "01:35:18", "text": "know, he's he's in that"}, {"start": "01:35:15", "end": "01:35:19", "text": "Platonic like philosophy heritage, and"}, {"start": "01:35:18", "end": "01:35:21", "text": "Plato and Socrates are not really big"}, {"start": "01:35:19", "end": "01:35:23", "text": "believers, and so, you know, there's a"}, {"start": "01:35:21", "end": "01:35:24", "text": "lot of things playing here. And"}, {"start": "01:35:23", "end": "01:35:26", "text": "Alexander is very different. Like, you"}, {"start": "01:35:24", "end": "01:35:28", "text": "know, a lot of people try to go"}, {"start": "01:35:26", "end": "01:35:30", "text": "Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, Alexander as"}, {"start": "01:35:28", "end": "01:35:33", "text": "if Alexander is a descendant of those"}, {"start": "01:35:30", "end": "01:35:36", "text": "guys. Not really. Alexander"}, {"start": "01:35:33", "end": "01:35:37", "text": "he's much different than Aristotle. So,"}, {"start": "01:35:36", "end": "01:35:38", "text": "we don't really know exactly what he"}, {"start": "01:35:37", "end": "01:35:42", "text": "believed or really what he saw himself"}, {"start": "01:35:38", "end": "01:35:45", "text": "as. Probably he saw himself as a god or"}, {"start": "01:35:42", "end": "01:35:47", "text": "more than a god because his generals"}, {"start": "01:35:45", "end": "01:35:48", "text": "would like challenge him, and I think"}, {"start": "01:35:47", "end": "01:35:50", "text": "that they would say something like uh"}, {"start": "01:35:48", "end": "01:35:52", "text": "They would say They would compare him to"}, {"start": "01:35:50", "end": "01:35:53", "text": "Hercules, or they would say like like"}, {"start": "01:35:52", "end": "01:35:55", "text": "you shouldn't compare yourself to"}, {"start": "01:35:53", "end": "01:35:57", "text": "Hercules and he's like he's like why"}, {"start": "01:35:55", "end": "01:35:59", "text": "not? I've done more in my lifetime. He"}, {"start": "01:35:57", "end": "01:36:01", "text": "was He was He was more than a He's He's"}, {"start": "01:35:59", "end": "01:36:02", "text": "greater than a god was."}, {"start": "01:36:01", "end": "01:36:04", "text": "Well, what would any 22-year-old who"}, {"start": "01:36:02", "end": "01:36:06", "text": "conquered half the world be like?"}, {"start": "01:36:04", "end": "01:36:07", "text": ">> Exactly. What what would they be like?"}, {"start": "01:36:06", "end": "01:36:10", "text": "And um"}, {"start": "01:36:07", "end": "01:36:12", "text": "so essentially he becomes um"}, {"start": "01:36:10", "end": "01:36:15", "text": "he becomes crowned pharaoh of Egypt and"}, {"start": "01:36:12", "end": "01:36:17", "text": "he heads up north and one of the last"}, {"start": "01:36:15", "end": "01:36:18", "text": "things that he We don't know if he did"}, {"start": "01:36:17", "end": "01:36:20", "text": "this before he went to the Siwa Oasis or"}, {"start": "01:36:18", "end": "01:36:22", "text": "if it was right after, but he went up"}, {"start": "01:36:20", "end": "01:36:24", "text": "north and one of the things he always"}, {"start": "01:36:22", "end": "01:36:25", "text": "carried around with him was Homer's"}, {"start": "01:36:24", "end": "01:36:27", "text": "Iliad and the Odyssey."}, {"start": "01:36:25", "end": "01:36:29", "text": "And in the Odyssey"}, {"start": "01:36:27", "end": "01:36:31", "text": "uh which I hope that we see this in this"}, {"start": "01:36:29", "end": "01:36:33", "text": "new Christopher Nolan movie. Um"}, {"start": "01:36:31", "end": "01:36:35", "text": "Odysseus, one of the places that he"}, {"start": "01:36:33", "end": "01:36:37", "text": "finds refuge at as he's being bounced"}, {"start": "01:36:35", "end": "01:36:39", "text": "around the Mediterranean is this little"}, {"start": "01:36:37", "end": "01:36:42", "text": "island on the coast of Egypt and when he"}, {"start": "01:36:39", "end": "01:36:43", "text": "arrives there, the locals tell him he"}, {"start": "01:36:42", "end": "01:36:45", "text": "asked them where they're at and they say"}, {"start": "01:36:43", "end": "01:36:46", "text": "Pharos. This is Pharos. We don't know if"}, {"start": "01:36:45", "end": "01:36:48", "text": "that's supposed to mean this is the"}, {"start": "01:36:46", "end": "01:36:50", "text": "pharaoh's"}, {"start": "01:36:48", "end": "01:36:54", "text": "land or what or what that means, but he"}, {"start": "01:36:50", "end": "01:36:55", "text": "called it Pharos, p h a r o s in"}, {"start": "01:36:54", "end": "01:36:57", "text": "English."}, {"start": "01:36:55", "end": "01:37:00", "text": "Which is a real small island. It's a"}, {"start": "01:36:57", "end": "01:37:01", "text": "real island. Yeah, yeah. And and um so"}, {"start": "01:37:00", "end": "01:37:03", "text": "that so he landed there and he stayed"}, {"start": "01:37:01", "end": "01:37:05", "text": "there and then he ended up leaving."}, {"start": "01:37:03", "end": "01:37:07", "text": "Well, Alexander being"}, {"start": "01:37:05", "end": "01:37:08", "text": "24"}, {"start": "01:37:07", "end": "01:37:10", "text": "25 years old, he's like I'm going to go"}, {"start": "01:37:08", "end": "01:37:12", "text": "find that place. I want to go see it."}, {"start": "01:37:10", "end": "01:37:14", "text": "Well, he he arrives and it's a little"}, {"start": "01:37:12", "end": "01:37:17", "text": "fishing village called Rhacotis, I"}, {"start": "01:37:14", "end": "01:37:19", "text": "believe. And um and while he's there, he"}, {"start": "01:37:17", "end": "01:37:20", "text": "realizes that that the land itself is"}, {"start": "01:37:19", "end": "01:37:22", "text": "actually kind of advantageous. So the"}, {"start": "01:37:20", "end": "01:37:24", "text": "Greeks like to build on water. The"}, {"start": "01:37:22", "end": "01:37:26", "text": "Egyptians aren't water people. They're"}, {"start": "01:37:24", "end": "01:37:27", "text": "also not desert people. They don't They"}, {"start": "01:37:26", "end": "01:37:29", "text": "don't like the water. They would call"}, {"start": "01:37:27", "end": "01:37:31", "text": "the Mediterranean the great green. So"}, {"start": "01:37:29", "end": "01:37:33", "text": "they That's why you don't see Egyptian"}, {"start": "01:37:31", "end": "01:37:35", "text": "expeditions going out to conquer places"}, {"start": "01:37:33", "end": "01:37:38", "text": "across the ocean. They will bounce"}, {"start": "01:37:35", "end": "01:37:40", "text": "around the coastline to get up to"}, {"start": "01:37:38", "end": "01:37:41", "text": "um like modern-day Lebanon cuz that's"}, {"start": "01:37:40", "end": "01:37:44", "text": "where they would get their cedar wood"}, {"start": "01:37:41", "end": "01:37:46", "text": "from or or the the uh"}, {"start": "01:37:44", "end": "01:37:48", "text": "Cedars of Lebanon, yeah. And uh get"}, {"start": "01:37:46", "end": "01:37:49", "text": "their wood from Lebanon and they bounce"}, {"start": "01:37:48", "end": "01:37:51", "text": "around do trading expeditions, but"}, {"start": "01:37:49", "end": "01:37:53", "text": "they're not launching full-on seafaring"}, {"start": "01:37:51", "end": "01:37:55", "text": "expeditions. They never really had"}, {"start": "01:37:53", "end": "01:37:56", "text": "military boats in the in the way that"}, {"start": "01:37:55", "end": "01:37:58", "text": "the Phoenicians or the Greeks did. They"}, {"start": "01:37:56", "end": "01:37:59", "text": "like to be down river. Mhm."}, {"start": "01:37:58", "end": "01:38:01", "text": "[clears throat] Guard the delta. Yeah,"}, {"start": "01:37:59", "end": "01:38:02", "text": "and they want to be right there they"}, {"start": "01:38:01", "end": "01:38:03", "text": "want to be right there in the green"}, {"start": "01:38:02", "end": "01:38:05", "text": "that's next to the river. They don't"}, {"start": "01:38:03", "end": "01:38:06", "text": "even go into the desert. They avoided"}, {"start": "01:38:05", "end": "01:38:09", "text": "the desert cuz it was a place for the"}, {"start": "01:38:06", "end": "01:38:10", "text": "dead, right? They would send their dead"}, {"start": "01:38:09", "end": "01:38:12", "text": "out into the desert, but they didn't"}, {"start": "01:38:10", "end": "01:38:13", "text": "live out there. If you went out there,"}, {"start": "01:38:12", "end": "01:38:15", "text": "the people living out there were"}, {"start": "01:38:13", "end": "01:38:17", "text": "marauders and barbarians and raiders and"}, {"start": "01:38:15", "end": "01:38:18", "text": "they'll kill you, you know. Well, we"}, {"start": "01:38:17", "end": "01:38:21", "text": "think of ancient Egypt as this giant"}, {"start": "01:38:18", "end": "01:38:22", "text": "world, but it really was just the delta."}, {"start": "01:38:21", "end": "01:38:25", "text": ">> The tiny little place. And it it it"}, {"start": "01:38:22", "end": "01:38:28", "text": "actually get this, dude. So, this is one"}, {"start": "01:38:25", "end": "01:38:30", "text": "of these anthropology things. All right,"}, {"start": "01:38:28", "end": "01:38:31", "text": "so this so this is ancient Egypt in a"}, {"start": "01:38:30", "end": "01:38:33", "text": "nutshell."}, {"start": "01:38:31", "end": "01:38:34", "text": "You've got let's say after the"}, {"start": "01:38:33", "end": "01:38:37", "text": "unification of Egypt. So, after the"}, {"start": "01:38:34", "end": "01:38:38", "text": "predynastic era around 3100 BC and then"}, {"start": "01:38:37", "end": "01:38:39", "text": "we will we will get back to Alexander,"}, {"start": "01:38:38", "end": "01:38:40", "text": "but"}, {"start": "01:38:39", "end": "01:38:41", "text": "um"}, {"start": "01:38:40", "end": "01:38:43", "text": "you know, you've got north and south"}, {"start": "01:38:41", "end": "01:38:45", "text": "Egypt, which south is upper north is"}, {"start": "01:38:43", "end": "01:38:47", "text": "lower. We don't have to get into that."}, {"start": "01:38:45", "end": "01:38:49", "text": "Uh it's just it's just the way the"}, {"start": "01:38:47", "end": "01:38:51", "text": "direct It flows weird. Yeah, the way the"}, {"start": "01:38:49", "end": "01:38:52", "text": "[clears throat] way the river flows. Um"}, {"start": "01:38:51", "end": "01:38:54", "text": "but, you've got these three different"}, {"start": "01:38:52", "end": "01:38:57", "text": "places in Egypt essentially. You've got"}, {"start": "01:38:54", "end": "01:38:59", "text": "southern Egypt, which is uh"}, {"start": "01:38:57", "end": "01:39:01", "text": "um you know, a collection a collection"}, {"start": "01:38:59", "end": "01:39:03", "text": "of of cities along these this in this"}, {"start": "01:39:01", "end": "01:39:05", "text": "fertile valley. Then you have this vast"}, {"start": "01:39:03", "end": "01:39:06", "text": "area that's not really very fertile and"}, {"start": "01:39:05", "end": "01:39:08", "text": "then you get to northern Egypt at the"}, {"start": "01:39:06", "end": "01:39:09", "text": "bottom of the delta."}, {"start": "01:39:08", "end": "01:39:10", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "01:39:09", "end": "01:39:11", "text": "And that's where Memphis and some other"}, {"start": "01:39:10", "end": "01:39:13", "text": "and some other cities were. And then you"}, {"start": "01:39:11", "end": "01:39:14", "text": "have the delta, which there were so"}, {"start": "01:39:13", "end": "01:39:16", "text": "there were some cities living out there"}, {"start": "01:39:14", "end": "01:39:18", "text": "cuz it's a much more lush area. But, the"}, {"start": "01:39:16", "end": "01:39:19", "text": "Egyptians that were living in the north,"}, {"start": "01:39:18", "end": "01:39:22", "text": "they saw the delta as being a good"}, {"start": "01:39:19", "end": "01:39:24", "text": "defensive place. So, you would hear if"}, {"start": "01:39:22", "end": "01:39:25", "text": "people ever tried to invade, they would"}, {"start": "01:39:24", "end": "01:39:28", "text": "have to navigate through the waters of"}, {"start": "01:39:25", "end": "01:39:29", "text": "the delta and masters could go back to"}, {"start": "01:39:28", "end": "01:39:31", "text": "the city that's at the bottom of the"}, {"start": "01:39:29", "end": "01:39:33", "text": "delta, which is Memphis, right? So, you"}, {"start": "01:39:31", "end": "01:39:34", "text": "you're defended in the north and no"}, {"start": "01:39:33", "end": "01:39:36", "text": "one's going to attack you from the south"}, {"start": "01:39:34", "end": "01:39:38", "text": "cuz they're also Egyptian, but they're"}, {"start": "01:39:36", "end": "01:39:41", "text": "not like unified with us, but they live"}, {"start": "01:39:38", "end": "01:39:43", "text": "really really far up the river."}, {"start": "01:39:41", "end": "01:39:45", "text": "Um but, far south. And so it's a it's a"}, {"start": "01:39:43", "end": "01:39:47", "text": "defensive place, but really you have"}, {"start": "01:39:45", "end": "01:39:50", "text": "some villages in the delta, you've got"}, {"start": "01:39:47", "end": "01:39:53", "text": "these main a few cities in that northern"}, {"start": "01:39:50", "end": "01:39:55", "text": "area, and a few cities in the south."}, {"start": "01:39:53", "end": "01:39:58", "text": "Well, over time there"}, {"start": "01:39:55", "end": "01:40:01", "text": "over time there was a pharaoh called,"}, {"start": "01:39:58", "end": "01:40:03", "text": "um, Narmer or Menes, and he was from the"}, {"start": "01:40:01", "end": "01:40:04", "text": "south and he marched north and conquered"}, {"start": "01:40:03", "end": "01:40:06", "text": "the north and then unified them and"}, {"start": "01:40:04", "end": "01:40:07", "text": "started dynastic Egypt."}, {"start": "01:40:06", "end": "01:40:09", "text": "Hey, can you boys throw the delta up"}, {"start": "01:40:07", "end": "01:40:10", "text": "there so we can take a look at how small"}, {"start": "01:40:09", "end": "01:40:12", "text": "[clears throat] it was? Yeah, yeah,"}, {"start": "01:40:10", "end": "01:40:14", "text": "tiny. And so you have these two main"}, {"start": "01:40:12", "end": "01:40:16", "text": "places, but you know what's really crazy"}, {"start": "01:40:14", "end": "01:40:18", "text": "is they call it, um, they call it the"}, {"start": "01:40:16", "end": "01:40:20", "text": "two lands because they're so heavily"}, {"start": "01:40:18", "end": "01:40:22", "text": "separated. People don't realize how"}, {"start": "01:40:20", "end": "01:40:25", "text": "separated that that they are."}, {"start": "01:40:22", "end": "01:40:27", "text": "The distance I I'm almost certain about"}, {"start": "01:40:25", "end": "01:40:30", "text": "this, we should measure it right now."}, {"start": "01:40:27", "end": "01:40:32", "text": "The distance between"}, {"start": "01:40:30", "end": "01:40:34", "text": "Memphis"}, {"start": "01:40:32", "end": "01:40:35", "text": "which across the river is where the"}, {"start": "01:40:34", "end": "01:40:38", "text": "pyramids were being built."}, {"start": "01:40:35", "end": "01:40:40", "text": ">> Yep. The distance between Memphis and"}, {"start": "01:40:38", "end": "01:40:41", "text": "southern Egypt where people were living"}, {"start": "01:40:40", "end": "01:40:44", "text": "is"}, {"start": "01:40:41", "end": "01:40:47", "text": "farther than the distance between"}, {"start": "01:40:44", "end": "01:40:49", "text": "northern Egypt and Athens, Greece."}, {"start": "01:40:47", "end": "01:40:51", "text": "Wow, it's farther? Yes. We should"}, {"start": "01:40:49", "end": "01:40:53", "text": "measure that. I'm pretty sure it is"}, {"start": "01:40:51", "end": "01:40:56", "text": "though. Um, so think about that. They"}, {"start": "01:40:53", "end": "01:40:58", "text": "were moving those those Aswan blocks,"}, {"start": "01:40:56", "end": "01:41:01", "text": "when they're moving them to the pyramids"}, {"start": "01:40:58", "end": "01:41:01", "text": "those are traveling farther Hundreds of"}, {"start": "01:41:01", "end": "01:41:04", "text": "miles away."}, {"start": "01:41:01", "end": "01:41:06", "text": ">> take than it would take to get from the"}, {"start": "01:41:04", "end": "01:41:09", "text": "pyramids to Athens. That's wild. Yep."}, {"start": "01:41:06", "end": "01:41:10", "text": "That's I've never I I actually figured"}, {"start": "01:41:09", "end": "01:41:13", "text": "that out just like in the last week or"}, {"start": "01:41:10", "end": "01:41:16", "text": "so. Um, but so so then you have to think"}, {"start": "01:41:13", "end": "01:41:18", "text": "like, oh, that's how big Egypt is."}, {"start": "01:41:16", "end": "01:41:20", "text": "You think about like Greece is so far"}, {"start": "01:41:18", "end": "01:41:22", "text": "away. No, it's not. Actually actually"}, {"start": "01:41:20", "end": "01:41:24", "text": "Aswan is farther. Sure. So it kind of"}, {"start": "01:41:22", "end": "01:41:26", "text": "plays into like, oh, well, how big did"}, {"start": "01:41:24", "end": "01:41:29", "text": "the Egyptians see their world? Like they"}, {"start": "01:41:26", "end": "01:41:33", "text": "must have known their world was actually"}, {"start": "01:41:29", "end": "01:41:34", "text": "actually absurdly large."}, {"start": "01:41:33", "end": "01:41:35", "text": "Anyways, that that's kind of one of"}, {"start": "01:41:34", "end": "01:41:37", "text": "these cool anthropology things. It"}, {"start": "01:41:35", "end": "01:41:40", "text": "changes the way that you think about"}, {"start": "01:41:37", "end": "01:41:42", "text": "Egypt when when you're studying it. Um"}, {"start": "01:41:40", "end": "01:41:44", "text": "so Alexander, he's [clears throat] up at"}, {"start": "01:41:42", "end": "01:41:46", "text": "he's up at Aswan"}, {"start": "01:41:44", "end": "01:41:48", "text": "and he he sees this good defensive"}, {"start": "01:41:46", "end": "01:41:49", "text": "posture"}, {"start": "01:41:48", "end": "01:41:51", "text": "uh that the later city of Alexandria"}, {"start": "01:41:49", "end": "01:41:53", "text": "would have. There's this little strip"}, {"start": "01:41:51", "end": "01:41:55", "text": "that the north side of it is connected"}, {"start": "01:41:53", "end": "01:41:57", "text": "to the Mediterranean. On the south side"}, {"start": "01:41:55", "end": "01:41:59", "text": "is a lake called uh"}, {"start": "01:41:57", "end": "01:42:01", "text": "Marioutis, I think, Lake Marioutis. It's"}, {"start": "01:41:59", "end": "01:42:04", "text": "just this little strip of land that's"}, {"start": "01:42:01", "end": "01:42:06", "text": "only exposed on the east and west sides."}, {"start": "01:42:04", "end": "01:42:08", "text": "And right out in front of that is is"}, {"start": "01:42:06", "end": "01:42:10", "text": "that little island of Pharos. That's uh"}, {"start": "01:42:08", "end": "01:42:13", "text": "nearby this this fishing village."}, {"start": "01:42:10", "end": "01:42:16", "text": "So he pulls up with his convoy into this"}, {"start": "01:42:13", "end": "01:42:18", "text": "little strip of land and um"}, {"start": "01:42:16", "end": "01:42:20", "text": "and he he doesn't have chalk or"}, {"start": "01:42:18", "end": "01:42:22", "text": "anything, so he grabs like some grain"}, {"start": "01:42:20", "end": "01:42:24", "text": "out of the saddlebag, throws it down"}, {"start": "01:42:22", "end": "01:42:25", "text": "onto the sand"}, {"start": "01:42:24", "end": "01:42:26", "text": "and he marks out the way the city is"}, {"start": "01:42:25", "end": "01:42:27", "text": "going to be built. So it's So he's"}, {"start": "01:42:26", "end": "01:42:29", "text": "thinking, \"I'm going to build a city"}, {"start": "01:42:27", "end": "01:42:30", "text": "here.\" He's going to build Alexandria."}, {"start": "01:42:29", "end": "01:42:32", "text": "Now I don't think this is the first"}, {"start": "01:42:30", "end": "01:42:35", "text": "Alexandria. I think"}, {"start": "01:42:32", "end": "01:42:36", "text": "I think that this is I think this may be"}, {"start": "01:42:35", "end": "01:42:39", "text": "one of the last ones. There's a funny"}, {"start": "01:42:36", "end": "01:42:41", "text": "joke in the classics that's like uh if"}, {"start": "01:42:39", "end": "01:42:42", "text": "somebody ask you to name 10 cities of"}, {"start": "01:42:41", "end": "01:42:43", "text": "the ancient world, just say Alexandria"}, {"start": "01:42:42", "end": "01:42:45", "text": "cuz there I think there were 10 of them"}, {"start": "01:42:43", "end": "01:42:48", "text": "or there were more than 10."}, {"start": "01:42:45", "end": "01:42:50", "text": "Um but Alexandria, Egypt is the one that"}, {"start": "01:42:48", "end": "01:42:52", "text": "stuck. So he grabs this the grain out of"}, {"start": "01:42:50", "end": "01:42:52", "text": "the saddlebag,"}, {"start": "01:42:52", "end": "01:42:53", "text": ">> [clears throat]"}, {"start": "01:42:52", "end": "01:42:56", "text": ">> throws it on throws it on the ground and"}, {"start": "01:42:53", "end": "01:42:59", "text": "he marks out that the city's going to be"}, {"start": "01:42:56", "end": "01:43:00", "text": "built around these two major roads and"}, {"start": "01:42:59", "end": "01:43:03", "text": "they're each going to be something like"}, {"start": "01:43:00", "end": "01:43:05", "text": "100 ft wide, absurdly wide and lined"}, {"start": "01:43:03", "end": "01:43:06", "text": "with stone, which is very rare in"}, {"start": "01:43:05", "end": "01:43:09", "text": "ancient times. Most of the time it's"}, {"start": "01:43:06", "end": "01:43:10", "text": "just packed dirt uh uh"}, {"start": "01:43:09", "end": "01:43:11", "text": "roads."}, {"start": "01:43:10", "end": "01:43:13", "text": "And um"}, {"start": "01:43:11", "end": "01:43:14", "text": "and they're going to line up with the"}, {"start": "01:43:13", "end": "01:43:16", "text": "Mediterranean winds so they could"}, {"start": "01:43:14", "end": "01:43:17", "text": "determine which way the winds come from"}, {"start": "01:43:16", "end": "01:43:18", "text": "and both the roads are going to be"}, {"start": "01:43:17", "end": "01:43:20", "text": "pointing towards the wind so that the"}, {"start": "01:43:18", "end": "01:43:22", "text": "winds will sweep down the city and cool"}, {"start": "01:43:20", "end": "01:43:24", "text": "the people down living in Egypt or"}, {"start": "01:43:22", "end": "01:43:26", "text": "living in the city."}, {"start": "01:43:24", "end": "01:43:27", "text": "So he maps it all out and then he leaves"}, {"start": "01:43:26", "end": "01:43:29", "text": "one of his architects. He says, \"You're"}, {"start": "01:43:27", "end": "01:43:31", "text": "going to stay here with, you know, who"}, {"start": "01:43:29", "end": "01:43:32", "text": "knows how many men are with him.\" You"}, {"start": "01:43:31", "end": "01:43:33", "text": "know, we have this idea that it's just"}, {"start": "01:43:32", "end": "01:43:34", "text": "like"}, {"start": "01:43:33", "end": "01:43:36", "text": "this caravan of like maybe a couple"}, {"start": "01:43:34", "end": "01:43:39", "text": "dozen people, but probably it's like"}, {"start": "01:43:36", "end": "01:43:40", "text": "hundreds or thousands people with him,"}, {"start": "01:43:39", "end": "01:43:41", "text": "you know?"}, {"start": "01:43:40", "end": "01:43:43", "text": "Um so"}, {"start": "01:43:41", "end": "01:43:45", "text": "after he gets done laying it down, this"}, {"start": "01:43:43", "end": "01:43:46", "text": "flock of seabirds come and they just"}, {"start": "01:43:45", "end": "01:43:48", "text": "devour all the grain right in front of"}, {"start": "01:43:46", "end": "01:43:49", "text": "him. Now, he's very superstitious and he"}, {"start": "01:43:48", "end": "01:43:50", "text": "looks at one of his"}, {"start": "01:43:49", "end": "01:43:52", "text": "uh"}, {"start": "01:43:50", "end": "01:43:54", "text": "looks at one of his uh guides that are"}, {"start": "01:43:52", "end": "01:43:55", "text": "with him and he thinks that this is a"}, {"start": "01:43:54", "end": "01:43:57", "text": "bad omen and maybe they shouldn't build"}, {"start": "01:43:55", "end": "01:43:58", "text": "the city here. And the guy says, \"No,"}, {"start": "01:43:57", "end": "01:44:00", "text": "no, no, no, no."}, {"start": "01:43:58", "end": "01:44:03", "text": "This is a good omen. This means that"}, {"start": "01:44:00", "end": "01:44:05", "text": "this city is going to feed many nations"}, {"start": "01:44:03", "end": "01:44:07", "text": "for many years to come or something like"}, {"start": "01:44:05", "end": "01:44:10", "text": "that.\" So, uh so Alexander ends up"}, {"start": "01:44:07", "end": "01:44:12", "text": "leaving Alexandria. He leaves his"}, {"start": "01:44:10", "end": "01:44:14", "text": "architect back and they start building"}, {"start": "01:44:12", "end": "01:44:16", "text": "the city immediately right then. Does he"}, {"start": "01:44:14", "end": "01:44:18", "text": "plan the lighthouse and the library at"}, {"start": "01:44:16", "end": "01:44:19", "text": "that point or No, I I don't think so. I"}, {"start": "01:44:18", "end": "01:44:20", "text": "mean, if he did"}, {"start": "01:44:19", "end": "01:44:21", "text": ">> never comes back, right? If he"}, {"start": "01:44:20", "end": "01:44:24", "text": "[clears throat] did, we don't know. We"}, {"start": "01:44:21", "end": "01:44:26", "text": "don't know. That's the thing. Um so, he"}, {"start": "01:44:24", "end": "01:44:28", "text": "leaves Alexandria and he goes on to"}, {"start": "01:44:26", "end": "01:44:29", "text": "conquer Babylon and he tries to move"}, {"start": "01:44:28", "end": "01:44:31", "text": "into India, it doesn't really work out,"}, {"start": "01:44:29", "end": "01:44:34", "text": "goes back to Babylon, ultimately dies."}, {"start": "01:44:31", "end": "01:44:35", "text": "We don't know why he dies. Um some"}, {"start": "01:44:34", "end": "01:44:36", "text": "people think that he could have been"}, {"start": "01:44:35", "end": "01:44:39", "text": "assassinated, that he could have been"}, {"start": "01:44:36", "end": "01:44:40", "text": "poisoned to death. Uh his his death"}, {"start": "01:44:39", "end": "01:44:42", "text": "certainly seems a bit like poison or"}, {"start": "01:44:40", "end": "01:44:46", "text": "maybe it's alcohol poisoning, you know,"}, {"start": "01:44:42", "end": "01:44:47", "text": "just a living a very, very rough life."}, {"start": "01:44:46", "end": "01:44:49", "text": "I don't know, but um Cuz he's not"}, {"start": "01:44:47", "end": "01:44:50", "text": "injured in battle."}, {"start": "01:44:49", "end": "01:44:55", "text": "Yeah, well, he gets injured, but not"}, {"start": "01:44:50", "end": "01:44:55", "text": "like not mortally wounded. Right. And uh"}, {"start": "01:44:55", "end": "01:44:59", "text": "I think he takes an arrow to to the to"}, {"start": "01:44:57", "end": "01:45:02", "text": "his uh chest at some point. Or to his"}, {"start": "01:44:59", "end": "01:45:03", "text": "stomach. Um"}, {"start": "01:45:02", "end": "01:45:06", "text": "I think he does, but but it's but it's"}, {"start": "01:45:03", "end": "01:45:07", "text": "not it's not life-threatening. So, um"}, {"start": "01:45:06", "end": "01:45:09", "text": "a lot of people think that that it was"}, {"start": "01:45:07", "end": "01:45:11", "text": "alcohol poisoning, just just living a"}, {"start": "01:45:09", "end": "01:45:13", "text": "very like rambunctious life and"}, {"start": "01:45:11", "end": "01:45:14", "text": "ultimately poisoned himself. And some"}, {"start": "01:45:13", "end": "01:45:17", "text": "people think that it could be some form"}, {"start": "01:45:14", "end": "01:45:19", "text": "of cancer that obviously is not able So,"}, {"start": "01:45:17", "end": "01:45:22", "text": "anyways, um"}, {"start": "01:45:19", "end": "01:45:23", "text": "when he's on his deathbed, his"}, {"start": "01:45:22", "end": "01:45:24", "text": "um all [clears throat] of his men come"}, {"start": "01:45:23", "end": "01:45:26", "text": "to him and they say they say,"}, {"start": "01:45:24", "end": "01:45:28", "text": "\"Alexander, you don't have you don't"}, {"start": "01:45:26", "end": "01:45:30", "text": "have an old enough heir. He's got a He's"}, {"start": "01:45:28", "end": "01:45:32", "text": "got a son with"}, {"start": "01:45:30", "end": "01:45:33", "text": "I other a Persian woman or an Indian"}, {"start": "01:45:32", "end": "01:45:35", "text": "woman,"}, {"start": "01:45:33", "end": "01:45:37", "text": "um but the but the son is like an infant"}, {"start": "01:45:35", "end": "01:45:40", "text": "and they're not going to be heir. They"}, {"start": "01:45:37", "end": "01:45:42", "text": "want a Greek, right? So, um there's no"}, {"start": "01:45:40", "end": "01:45:44", "text": "there's no"}, {"start": "01:45:42", "end": "01:45:46", "text": "obvious heir to the throne and he says"}, {"start": "01:45:44", "end": "01:45:47", "text": "he says uh"}, {"start": "01:45:46", "end": "01:45:50", "text": "to the fittest. That's essentially what"}, {"start": "01:45:47", "end": "01:45:52", "text": "he says. And so,"}, {"start": "01:45:50", "end": "01:45:53", "text": "what does that mean? So,"}, {"start": "01:45:52", "end": "01:45:53", "text": ">> to the fittest [clears throat] take it"}, {"start": "01:45:53", "end": "01:45:56", "text": "out."}, {"start": "01:45:53", "end": "01:45:57", "text": ">> So, yeah, so initially they divided up"}, {"start": "01:45:56", "end": "01:45:59", "text": "into"}, {"start": "01:45:57", "end": "01:46:01", "text": "um around half a dozen different"}, {"start": "01:45:59", "end": "01:46:03", "text": "territories. They divide up the mast the"}, {"start": "01:46:01", "end": "01:46:05", "text": "Macedonian empire. Which is how big at"}, {"start": "01:46:03", "end": "01:46:07", "text": "this point?"}, {"start": "01:46:05", "end": "01:46:10", "text": "Uh well, it's it's the Persian empire"}, {"start": "01:46:07", "end": "01:46:12", "text": "plus Greece. So, it's all the way east"}, {"start": "01:46:10", "end": "01:46:15", "text": "to India, west to through Europe, down"}, {"start": "01:46:12", "end": "01:46:17", "text": "the entire Mediterranean."}, {"start": "01:46:15", "end": "01:46:20", "text": "Yeah, I mean, we don't really know"}, {"start": "01:46:17", "end": "01:46:22", "text": "beyond well, beyond"}, {"start": "01:46:20", "end": "01:46:25", "text": "Greece as you go west, like maybe"}, {"start": "01:46:22", "end": "01:46:28", "text": "Syracuse is part of the empire, but I"}, {"start": "01:46:25", "end": "01:46:30", "text": "don't think he he didn't have Italy."}, {"start": "01:46:28", "end": "01:46:32", "text": "Um the the like the early Romans are"}, {"start": "01:46:30", "end": "01:46:34", "text": "around. He probably would have set his"}, {"start": "01:46:32", "end": "01:46:36", "text": "sights west and gone and conquered"}, {"start": "01:46:34", "end": "01:46:38", "text": "Italy, but I think maybe they had"}, {"start": "01:46:36", "end": "01:46:39", "text": "Syracuse, but they didn't have Italy."}, {"start": "01:46:38", "end": "01:46:40", "text": "Uh"}, {"start": "01:46:39", "end": "01:46:42", "text": "Yeah, there you go. Yeah, they didn't"}, {"start": "01:46:40", "end": "01:46:43", "text": "have it. So, it stopped at Macedonia."}, {"start": "01:46:42", "end": "01:46:46", "text": "So, this this is still I think the third"}, {"start": "01:46:43", "end": "01:46:48", "text": "biggest empire in history behind England"}, {"start": "01:46:46", "end": "01:46:51", "text": "and the Mongols. Yeah, exactly. Exactly."}, {"start": "01:46:48", "end": "01:46:56", "text": "And so, yeah, he dies he dies in Babylon"}, {"start": "01:46:51", "end": "01:46:58", "text": "at uh 32 years old. And um"}, {"start": "01:46:56", "end": "01:47:00", "text": "to his empire goes the fittest. They"}, {"start": "01:46:58", "end": "01:47:01", "text": "divide it up into I think it's just a"}, {"start": "01:47:00", "end": "01:47:04", "text": "little bit more than a than a dozen"}, {"start": "01:47:01", "end": "01:47:07", "text": "different territories and Ptolemy,"}, {"start": "01:47:04", "end": "01:47:09", "text": "like Alexander cuz they they bonded over"}, {"start": "01:47:07", "end": "01:47:12", "text": "their their fascination with the"}, {"start": "01:47:09", "end": "01:47:15", "text": "Egyptian world. Uh the Egyptians"}, {"start": "01:47:12", "end": "01:47:16", "text": "were seen as like being otherworldly"}, {"start": "01:47:15", "end": "01:47:19", "text": "ancient to the Greeks, right? Like they"}, {"start": "01:47:16", "end": "01:47:22", "text": "were this civilization that had"}, {"start": "01:47:19", "end": "01:47:23", "text": "still existed and been around since the"}, {"start": "01:47:22", "end": "01:47:24", "text": "beginning of time and they were still"}, {"start": "01:47:23", "end": "01:47:26", "text": "around. Like the Greeks at the at the"}, {"start": "01:47:24", "end": "01:47:28", "text": "fall of the Bronze Age,"}, {"start": "01:47:26", "end": "01:47:29", "text": "they lose their they lose their memory."}, {"start": "01:47:28", "end": "01:47:30", "text": "Like one of the things that the"}, {"start": "01:47:29", "end": "01:47:32", "text": "Egyptians say about the Greeks is that"}, {"start": "01:47:30", "end": "01:47:34", "text": "there's no old Greeks. They don't"}, {"start": "01:47:32", "end": "01:47:35", "text": "remember anything."}, {"start": "01:47:34", "end": "01:47:36", "text": "Um And we're going to cover that later"}, {"start": "01:47:35", "end": "01:47:36", "text": "with the Minoans. [clears throat] It's"}, {"start": "01:47:36", "end": "01:47:38", "text": "fascinating."}, {"start": "01:47:36", "end": "01:47:40", "text": ">> Yeah, so much"}, {"start": "01:47:38", "end": "01:47:42", "text": "they they remember so little to the"}, {"start": "01:47:40", "end": "01:47:43", "text": "point that"}, {"start": "01:47:42", "end": "01:47:45", "text": "this is probably one of the one of the"}, {"start": "01:47:43", "end": "01:47:47", "text": "slight problems I take with with when we"}, {"start": "01:47:45", "end": "01:47:50", "text": "look for Atlantis that we treat like we"}, {"start": "01:47:47", "end": "01:47:55", "text": "hang on every word that's we think that"}, {"start": "01:47:50", "end": "01:47:57", "text": "Solon said, but Solon is alive"}, {"start": "01:47:55", "end": "01:47:59", "text": "he's alive in the 600s to the to the"}, {"start": "01:47:57", "end": "01:48:03", "text": "early 500s."}, {"start": "01:47:59", "end": "01:48:04", "text": ">> like 300 years. And and even that is"}, {"start": "01:48:03", "end": "01:48:07", "text": "semi-mythical"}, {"start": "01:48:04", "end": "01:48:08", "text": "to the classical Greeks. Like they have"}, {"start": "01:48:07", "end": "01:48:09", "text": "a really hard time remembering their"}, {"start": "01:48:08", "end": "01:48:11", "text": "past."}, {"start": "01:48:09", "end": "01:48:12", "text": ">> Right. And Solon even says, I've I'm"}, {"start": "01:48:11", "end": "01:48:15", "text": "telling the story from I learned it from"}, {"start": "01:48:12", "end": "01:48:16", "text": "Egyptian priests. I never Exactly. So,"}, {"start": "01:48:15", "end": "01:48:17", "text": "um"}, {"start": "01:48:16", "end": "01:48:19", "text": "and and that gets passed down orally we"}, {"start": "01:48:17", "end": "01:48:21", "text": "think to to Plato. So, you know,"}, {"start": "01:48:19", "end": "01:48:22", "text": "anyways. So, even to those guys, sorry"}, {"start": "01:48:21", "end": "01:48:24", "text": "to interrupt."}, {"start": "01:48:22", "end": "01:48:26", "text": ">> Yeah. Ancient Egypt is still"}, {"start": "01:48:24", "end": "01:48:29", "text": "ancient. It ain't it's still ancient and"}, {"start": "01:48:26", "end": "01:48:31", "text": "still continuing. The Manetho's history"}, {"start": "01:48:29", "end": "01:48:33", "text": "of ancient Egypt which he I think that"}, {"start": "01:48:31", "end": "01:48:36", "text": "Manetho he was an Egyptian and he wrote"}, {"start": "01:48:33", "end": "01:48:39", "text": "it in Alexandria, I'm pretty sure in one"}, {"start": "01:48:36", "end": "01:48:40", "text": "of the latter three centuries BC."}, {"start": "01:48:39", "end": "01:48:42", "text": "And"}, {"start": "01:48:40", "end": "01:48:44", "text": "and that history of ancient Egypt has"}, {"start": "01:48:42", "end": "01:48:45", "text": "stood up with the archaeology. So, the"}, {"start": "01:48:44", "end": "01:48:47", "text": "Egyptians"}, {"start": "01:48:45", "end": "01:48:51", "text": "from 3100 BC all the way down to the"}, {"start": "01:48:47", "end": "01:48:53", "text": "time of Alexander, they remembered their"}, {"start": "01:48:51", "end": "01:48:55", "text": "history. Now, there is there prob there"}, {"start": "01:48:53", "end": "01:48:59", "text": "we do see myths come through. Like"}, {"start": "01:48:55", "end": "01:49:01", "text": "Herodotus says that the um"}, {"start": "01:48:59", "end": "01:49:04", "text": "Herodotus says that the Egyptians told"}, {"start": "01:49:01", "end": "01:49:05", "text": "him that Khufu out his daughter"}, {"start": "01:49:04", "end": "01:49:07", "text": "to be able to build the pyramids or"}, {"start": "01:49:05", "end": "01:49:09", "text": "something like that. Well, the Egyptians"}, {"start": "01:49:07", "end": "01:49:10", "text": "say all kinds of crazy stuff when you go"}, {"start": "01:49:09", "end": "01:49:13", "text": "get a tour guide there today. Like"}, {"start": "01:49:10", "end": "01:49:15", "text": "there's a massive difference between a"}, {"start": "01:49:13", "end": "01:49:16", "text": "tour guide and a historian living in"}, {"start": "01:49:15", "end": "01:49:18", "text": "Egypt, right? Like"}, {"start": "01:49:16", "end": "01:49:20", "text": "you can't take both of you know, both of"}, {"start": "01:49:18", "end": "01:49:22", "text": "them you can't put the same amount of"}, {"start": "01:49:20", "end": "01:49:24", "text": "weight behind their opinions, but uh"}, {"start": "01:49:22", "end": "01:49:25", "text": "the uh"}, {"start": "01:49:24", "end": "01:49:26", "text": "there's definitely legends and stuff"}, {"start": "01:49:25", "end": "01:49:28", "text": "that get twisted up, but as far as the"}, {"start": "01:49:26", "end": "01:49:30", "text": "broad history, like the Egyptians even"}, {"start": "01:49:28", "end": "01:49:32", "text": "thousands of years later, they still"}, {"start": "01:49:30", "end": "01:49:33", "text": "understood their history. And they look"}, {"start": "01:49:32", "end": "01:49:35", "text": "at the Greeks as being like little"}, {"start": "01:49:33", "end": "01:49:36", "text": "children that don't know anything."}, {"start": "01:49:35", "end": "01:49:40", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "01:49:36", "end": "01:49:42", "text": "so so Ptolemy goes to Egypt and he's"}, {"start": "01:49:40", "end": "01:49:44", "text": "basically a governor of Egypt living out"}, {"start": "01:49:42", "end": "01:49:45", "text": "of Alexandria. They've now built up the"}, {"start": "01:49:44", "end": "01:49:47", "text": "city much more. I think another decade"}, {"start": "01:49:45", "end": "01:49:48", "text": "has gone by. Well, what about"}, {"start": "01:49:47", "end": "01:49:50", "text": "Alexander's body?"}, {"start": "01:49:48", "end": "01:49:51", "text": "So, Alexander's body is kept in Babylon"}, {"start": "01:49:50", "end": "01:49:53", "text": "for a while."}, {"start": "01:49:51", "end": "01:49:56", "text": ">> For a while, okay. And um and so I"}, {"start": "01:49:53", "end": "01:49:58", "text": "forget who one of Alexander's heirs"}, {"start": "01:49:56", "end": "01:50:00", "text": "were, the general that wanted to bring"}, {"start": "01:49:58", "end": "01:50:01", "text": "his body back to Greece. I forget his"}, {"start": "01:50:00", "end": "01:50:03", "text": "name."}, {"start": "01:50:01", "end": "01:50:05", "text": "Um but as Ptolemy is is rising in power"}, {"start": "01:50:03", "end": "01:50:09", "text": "and kind of consolidating and getting"}, {"start": "01:50:05", "end": "01:50:11", "text": "everything going in Egypt, he"}, {"start": "01:50:09", "end": "01:50:13", "text": "at least my interpretation and in the"}, {"start": "01:50:11", "end": "01:50:15", "text": "agreement of private conversations I've"}, {"start": "01:50:13", "end": "01:50:18", "text": "had with other historians,"}, {"start": "01:50:15", "end": "01:50:22", "text": "Ptolemy has a huge dilemma here because"}, {"start": "01:50:18", "end": "01:50:23", "text": "he's not a warlord semi-divine god"}, {"start": "01:50:22", "end": "01:50:25", "text": "mythical being"}, {"start": "01:50:23", "end": "01:50:27", "text": "that Alexander was and the Egyptians"}, {"start": "01:50:25", "end": "01:50:28", "text": "know that. They're not stupid. You know,"}, {"start": "01:50:27", "end": "01:50:30", "text": "like even though they're"}, {"start": "01:50:28", "end": "01:50:31", "text": "This is really interesting."}, {"start": "01:50:30", "end": "01:50:35", "text": "Um I was the other day I was just"}, {"start": "01:50:31", "end": "01:50:39", "text": "reading uh the writings of Ptahhotep,"}, {"start": "01:50:35", "end": "01:50:42", "text": "which um was written around 2400 BC and"}, {"start": "01:50:39", "end": "01:50:44", "text": "he's the world's first philosopher and I"}, {"start": "01:50:42", "end": "01:50:45", "text": "think it's the world's first book,"}, {"start": "01:50:44", "end": "01:50:48", "text": "actually. It's the oldest book that we"}, {"start": "01:50:45", "end": "01:50:50", "text": "know of, a collection of writings."}, {"start": "01:50:48", "end": "01:50:52", "text": "Yeah, he was a vizier living under one"}, {"start": "01:50:50", "end": "01:50:55", "text": "of the pharaohs that come shortly after"}, {"start": "01:50:52", "end": "01:50:56", "text": "Khufu, Khafre, and Menkaure. Um"}, {"start": "01:50:55", "end": "01:50:58", "text": "Uh"}, {"start": "01:50:56", "end": "01:50:59", "text": "I think sixth dynasty or fifth No, it's"}, {"start": "01:50:58", "end": "01:51:01", "text": "must be fifth dynasty."}, {"start": "01:50:59", "end": "01:51:02", "text": "Anyways, it's this it's this book of"}, {"start": "01:51:01", "end": "01:51:06", "text": "like"}, {"start": "01:51:02", "end": "01:51:07", "text": "60 some odd lessons of how to live your"}, {"start": "01:51:06", "end": "01:51:09", "text": "life"}, {"start": "01:51:07", "end": "01:51:11", "text": "correctly and how to interact with other"}, {"start": "01:51:09", "end": "01:51:13", "text": "people and treat them is just a"}, {"start": "01:51:11", "end": "01:51:15", "text": "mind-blowing. You will read he he has"}, {"start": "01:51:13", "end": "01:51:17", "text": "very specific scenarios that he'll"}, {"start": "01:51:15", "end": "01:51:18", "text": "mention and you're like, \"Oh, I've been"}, {"start": "01:51:17", "end": "01:51:20", "text": "in a situation like that.\" It's"}, {"start": "01:51:18", "end": "01:51:22", "text": "freaking crazy. But, one of the things"}, {"start": "01:51:20", "end": "01:51:25", "text": "that he says"}, {"start": "01:51:22", "end": "01:51:27", "text": "in the book is uh"}, {"start": "01:51:25", "end": "01:51:28", "text": "is that"}, {"start": "01:51:27", "end": "01:51:29", "text": "the it's"}, {"start": "01:51:28", "end": "01:51:31", "text": "it's something like like listen to what"}, {"start": "01:51:29", "end": "01:51:33", "text": "every person has to say because often"}, {"start": "01:51:31", "end": "01:51:35", "text": "the wisest words you'll hear will be"}, {"start": "01:51:33", "end": "01:51:37", "text": "spoken"}, {"start": "01:51:35", "end": "01:51:38", "text": "from the women at the fountain or"}, {"start": "01:51:37", "end": "01:51:40", "text": "something it's something like that. And"}, {"start": "01:51:38", "end": "01:51:42", "text": "basically what he's saying is that these"}, {"start": "01:51:40", "end": "01:51:44", "text": "poor peasant women women have obviously"}, {"start": "01:51:42", "end": "01:51:46", "text": "no rights that no no high standing no"}, {"start": "01:51:44", "end": "01:51:48", "text": "nothing. They're"}, {"start": "01:51:46", "end": "01:51:50", "text": "they're a lower class citizen than, you"}, {"start": "01:51:48", "end": "01:51:53", "text": "know, men. Um"}, {"start": "01:51:50", "end": "01:51:54", "text": "often times these normal peasants will"}, {"start": "01:51:53", "end": "01:51:56", "text": "have will"}, {"start": "01:51:54", "end": "01:51:57", "text": "will have the most intelligent things to"}, {"start": "01:51:56", "end": "01:51:59", "text": "say that you've ever heard of. So,"}, {"start": "01:51:57", "end": "01:52:00", "text": "thousands of years earlier he's telling"}, {"start": "01:51:59", "end": "01:52:03", "text": "us that even the peasants in Egypt are"}, {"start": "01:52:00", "end": "01:52:06", "text": "very intelligent people, right? So,"}, {"start": "01:52:03", "end": "01:52:08", "text": "So, Ptolemy's not fooling anybody by"}, {"start": "01:52:06", "end": "01:52:10", "text": "just posturing like he's this great"}, {"start": "01:52:08", "end": "01:52:12", "text": "ruler. He actually has to appeal to the"}, {"start": "01:52:10", "end": "01:52:13", "text": "Egyptian people"}, {"start": "01:52:12", "end": "01:52:15", "text": "because the Egyptians will revolt. I"}, {"start": "01:52:13", "end": "01:52:17", "text": "mean, they tried to revolt against the"}, {"start": "01:52:15", "end": "01:52:18", "text": "Greeks, they tried to revolt against the"}, {"start": "01:52:17", "end": "01:52:19", "text": "Romans, they still want independence"}, {"start": "01:52:18", "end": "01:52:21", "text": "even though they"}, {"start": "01:52:19", "end": "01:52:22", "text": "they like the Greeks more than they like"}, {"start": "01:52:21", "end": "01:52:23", "text": "the Persians, they still want their own"}, {"start": "01:52:22", "end": "01:52:25", "text": "independence and you can't fool these"}, {"start": "01:52:23", "end": "01:52:26", "text": "peasants. And if you can, you can't do"}, {"start": "01:52:25", "end": "01:52:28", "text": "it forever."}, {"start": "01:52:26", "end": "01:52:30", "text": "Um you know, you if anything and these"}, {"start": "01:52:28", "end": "01:52:32", "text": "and these rulers knew this, you can't"}, {"start": "01:52:30", "end": "01:52:33", "text": "rule with an iron fist. You will get"}, {"start": "01:52:32", "end": "01:52:36", "text": "your head chopped off. So, you actually"}, {"start": "01:52:33", "end": "01:52:38", "text": "have to live up to the expectation."}, {"start": "01:52:36", "end": "01:52:39", "text": "And that and that is the expectation of"}, {"start": "01:52:38", "end": "01:52:41", "text": "a ruler in ancient Egypt. They were"}, {"start": "01:52:39", "end": "01:52:44", "text": "supposed to live in accordance with"}, {"start": "01:52:41", "end": "01:52:48", "text": "Ma'at. They had to be philosopher kings"}, {"start": "01:52:44", "end": "01:52:50", "text": "that were focused on morality and and"}, {"start": "01:52:48", "end": "01:52:51", "text": "keeping justice in the way of the"}, {"start": "01:52:50", "end": "01:52:53", "text": "universe the divine order of the"}, {"start": "01:52:51", "end": "01:52:56", "text": "universe together. If you were not"}, {"start": "01:52:53", "end": "01:52:59", "text": "legitimately a good person as the ruler"}, {"start": "01:52:56", "end": "01:53:02", "text": "of Egypt, Egypt would be cursed."}, {"start": "01:52:59", "end": "01:53:04", "text": "Yeah. Yeah, it's crazy to me. So, so"}, {"start": "01:53:02", "end": "01:53:05", "text": ">> obviously got through to them."}, {"start": "01:53:04", "end": "01:53:06", "text": "He did."}, {"start": "01:53:05", "end": "01:53:08", "text": "But, he had but he had a he had a"}, {"start": "01:53:06", "end": "01:53:10", "text": "dilemma. He had to figure out a way to"}, {"start": "01:53:08", "end": "01:53:12", "text": "do that. He had to This normal guy who's"}, {"start": "01:53:10", "end": "01:53:14", "text": "just a politician in the Greek world had"}, {"start": "01:53:12", "end": "01:53:17", "text": "to figure out a way to break through."}, {"start": "01:53:14", "end": "01:53:21", "text": "So, he does"}, {"start": "01:53:17", "end": "01:53:21", "text": "Let's say like three and a half things."}, {"start": "01:53:21", "end": "01:53:26", "text": "He builds the Lighthouse of Alexandria."}, {"start": "01:53:24", "end": "01:53:29", "text": "Essentially,"}, {"start": "01:53:26", "end": "01:53:30", "text": "it's a symbol of Egypt's"}, {"start": "01:53:29", "end": "01:53:34", "text": "Well, he's got he's got to do a lot,"}, {"start": "01:53:30", "end": "01:53:36", "text": "too. He has to appeal to the Egyptians"}, {"start": "01:53:34", "end": "01:53:37", "text": "cuz he's now their their governor. He's"}, {"start": "01:53:36", "end": "01:53:40", "text": "Soon he's going to He's just going to"}, {"start": "01:53:37", "end": "01:53:42", "text": "proclaim himself pharaoh because the the"}, {"start": "01:53:40", "end": "01:53:44", "text": "whole All these governors that are now"}, {"start": "01:53:42", "end": "01:53:45", "text": "ruling over Alexander's empire break up"}, {"start": "01:53:44", "end": "01:53:47", "text": "and start warring against each other."}, {"start": "01:53:45", "end": "01:53:50", "text": "The the lines become cut, right? He's"}, {"start": "01:53:47", "end": "01:53:52", "text": "now not aligned with the Greeks anymore."}, {"start": "01:53:50", "end": "01:53:54", "text": "He's a Greek family"}, {"start": "01:53:52", "end": "01:53:57", "text": "that ended up stranded in Egypt and in"}, {"start": "01:53:54", "end": "01:53:58", "text": "control of Egypt. So, he has to become"}, {"start": "01:53:57", "end": "01:54:01", "text": "like Greek-Egyptian now cuz he can't go"}, {"start": "01:53:58", "end": "01:54:04", "text": "back to Greece. Right. And uh Didn't his"}, {"start": "01:54:01", "end": "01:54:06", "text": "empire stop in Turkey or so? Like"}, {"start": "01:54:04", "end": "01:54:08", "text": "Yeah, yeah. I think Yeah, I think that"}, {"start": "01:54:06", "end": "01:54:09", "text": "they I think that they control a little"}, {"start": "01:54:08", "end": "01:54:10", "text": "bit of that."}, {"start": "01:54:09", "end": "01:54:13", "text": ">> And there's the lighthouse that was over"}, {"start": "01:54:10", "end": "01:54:15", "text": "300 ft tall. Yeah. Well, it's it's"}, {"start": "01:54:13", "end": "01:54:16", "text": "actually"}, {"start": "01:54:15", "end": "01:54:18", "text": "Well, I'll tell you in a second."}, {"start": "01:54:16", "end": "01:54:20", "text": ">> Okay. So,"}, {"start": "01:54:18", "end": "01:54:22", "text": "he's got to do two things. One, he wants"}, {"start": "01:54:20", "end": "01:54:23", "text": "to send a big middle finger back to"}, {"start": "01:54:22", "end": "01:54:24", "text": "Greece. He's going to say, \"Look at what"}, {"start": "01:54:23", "end": "01:54:26", "text": "I'm going to build.\" So, he So, he's"}, {"start": "01:54:24", "end": "01:54:28", "text": "worried about impressing the Greeks."}, {"start": "01:54:26", "end": "01:54:30", "text": "I was told this by a Greco-Roman"}, {"start": "01:54:28", "end": "01:54:31", "text": "historian as well. He was like, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "01:54:30", "end": "01:54:32", "text": "also think about the fact that he's"}, {"start": "01:54:31", "end": "01:54:33", "text": "trying to impress the Greeks and make a"}, {"start": "01:54:32", "end": "01:54:36", "text": "statement to them.\" And I was like,"}, {"start": "01:54:33", "end": "01:54:38", "text": "\"Okay, that's true. That's true.\" So, um"}, {"start": "01:54:36", "end": "01:54:40", "text": "So, I was That was Told in Stone that"}, {"start": "01:54:38", "end": "01:54:41", "text": "told it to me. He's a He's a great guy."}, {"start": "01:54:40", "end": "01:54:42", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "01:54:41", "end": "01:54:44", "text": "So, he's trying to impress the Greeks"}, {"start": "01:54:42", "end": "01:54:48", "text": "and he has to impress the Egyptians. So,"}, {"start": "01:54:44", "end": "01:54:50", "text": "he builds the Lighthouse of Alexandria,"}, {"start": "01:54:48", "end": "01:54:53", "text": "which is a calling back to Odysseus"}, {"start": "01:54:50", "end": "01:54:56", "text": "finding refuge basically at Alexandria"}, {"start": "01:54:53", "end": "01:54:58", "text": "because uh the They build the lighthouse"}, {"start": "01:54:56", "end": "01:54:59", "text": "on the island of of Pharos. And"}, {"start": "01:54:58", "end": "01:55:01", "text": "essentially, what that lighthouse is It"}, {"start": "01:54:59", "end": "01:55:04", "text": "was burning 24 hours a day, and it was a"}, {"start": "01:55:01", "end": "01:55:06", "text": "welcoming to the Mediterranean world."}, {"start": "01:55:04", "end": "01:55:07", "text": "You're welcome here. This beacon is a"}, {"start": "01:55:06", "end": "01:55:09", "text": "safe refuge. This is the first"}, {"start": "01:55:07", "end": "01:55:10", "text": "lighthouse in in history, but that's"}, {"start": "01:55:09", "end": "01:55:13", "text": "what it meant. It was a safe refuge"}, {"start": "01:55:10", "end": "01:55:15", "text": "calling back to um"}, {"start": "01:55:13", "end": "01:55:18", "text": "to that like primordial Greek world. But"}, {"start": "01:55:15", "end": "01:55:20", "text": "it's also built within just a few feet"}, {"start": "01:55:18", "end": "01:55:21", "text": "of being the same height as the Great"}, {"start": "01:55:20", "end": "01:55:23", "text": "Pyramid. Oh."}, {"start": "01:55:21", "end": "01:55:26", "text": ">> And it's built in it in according to the"}, {"start": "01:55:23", "end": "01:55:28", "text": "sources, it's built out of like 65-ton"}, {"start": "01:55:26", "end": "01:55:30", "text": "red Aswan granite stones, which"}, {"start": "01:55:28", "end": "01:55:33", "text": "architecture like that had not been"}, {"start": "01:55:30", "end": "01:55:35", "text": "produced in Egypt for more than 2,000"}, {"start": "01:55:33", "end": "01:55:36", "text": "years. It depends on on how old you"}, {"start": "01:55:35", "end": "01:55:38", "text": "think that the Osireion is, if you're"}, {"start": "01:55:36", "end": "01:55:40", "text": "familiar with the Osireion. A lot of"}, {"start": "01:55:38", "end": "01:55:41", "text": "people try to date that to uh oh, I"}, {"start": "01:55:40", "end": "01:55:44", "text": "think it I think it's"}, {"start": "01:55:41", "end": "01:55:46", "text": "established dated to 19th Dynasty under"}, {"start": "01:55:44", "end": "01:55:48", "text": "Seti I."}, {"start": "01:55:46", "end": "01:55:49", "text": "I don't agree with that. I think it's I"}, {"start": "01:55:48", "end": "01:55:51", "text": "think it's definitely contemporaneous"}, {"start": "01:55:49", "end": "01:55:53", "text": "with the Valley Temple. You do? You"}, {"start": "01:55:51", "end": "01:55:55", "text": "don't think it goes back that far?"}, {"start": "01:55:53", "end": "01:55:56", "text": "Uh yeah, I mean, however old however old"}, {"start": "01:55:55", "end": "01:55:58", "text": "the pyramids and the Valley Temple and"}, {"start": "01:55:56", "end": "01:56:00", "text": "the Sphinx is, I think the Osireion is"}, {"start": "01:55:58", "end": "01:56:00", "text": "the same age built by the same"}, {"start": "01:56:00", "end": "01:56:01", "text": "architect."}, {"start": "01:56:00", "end": "01:56:03", "text": ">> would agree."}, {"start": "01:56:01", "end": "01:56:06", "text": ">> Architect. Yeah, I mean, the original"}, {"start": "01:56:03", "end": "01:56:07", "text": "excavators of the Osireion thought that."}, {"start": "01:56:06", "end": "01:56:09", "text": "It's pretty It seem It's pretty seems"}, {"start": "01:56:07", "end": "01:56:11", "text": "pretty obvious."}, {"start": "01:56:09", "end": "01:56:12", "text": "So, um"}, {"start": "01:56:11", "end": "01:56:14", "text": "And um"}, {"start": "01:56:12", "end": "01:56:15", "text": "they weren't really [snorts] using Aswan"}, {"start": "01:56:14", "end": "01:56:17", "text": "granite"}, {"start": "01:56:15", "end": "01:56:18", "text": "in the they so there's some Aswan in the"}, {"start": "01:56:17", "end": "01:56:21", "text": "King's Chamber, there's some in the"}, {"start": "01:56:18", "end": "01:56:23", "text": "Osireion, and then that's it, right?"}, {"start": "01:56:21", "end": "01:56:25", "text": ">> it it's a it is it is always"}, {"start": "01:56:23", "end": "01:56:27", "text": "incorporated. Like the obelisks are"}, {"start": "01:56:25", "end": "01:56:30", "text": "raised and those are red Aswan granite."}, {"start": "01:56:27", "end": "01:56:32", "text": "But the uh the way the granite is used"}, {"start": "01:56:30", "end": "01:56:33", "text": "just changes. It becomes more like uh we"}, {"start": "01:56:32", "end": "01:56:36", "text": "don't have"}, {"start": "01:56:33", "end": "01:56:38", "text": "statues made out of red Aswan granite"}, {"start": "01:56:36", "end": "01:56:40", "text": "during the Old Kingdom, you know, made"}, {"start": "01:56:38", "end": "01:56:45", "text": "out of any of the Old Kingdom pharaohs"}, {"start": "01:56:40", "end": "01:56:47", "text": "at all. But we do have massive statues"}, {"start": "01:56:45", "end": "01:56:49", "text": "made out of single pieces of red Aswan"}, {"start": "01:56:47", "end": "01:56:51", "text": "granite that come from"}, {"start": "01:56:49", "end": "01:56:52", "text": "all periods of the New Kingdom, but that"}, {"start": "01:56:51", "end": "01:56:54", "text": "granite's being used in a totally"}, {"start": "01:56:52", "end": "01:56:56", "text": "different way."}, {"start": "01:56:54", "end": "01:56:57", "text": "Um we even have some of the largest"}, {"start": "01:56:56", "end": "01:57:00", "text": "single standing statues, actually come"}, {"start": "01:56:57", "end": "01:57:02", "text": "from the time of Alexandria. But so"}, {"start": "01:57:00", "end": "01:57:04", "text": "they're using Aswan stones. They're"}, {"start": "01:57:02", "end": "01:57:06", "text": "bringing them now like 700 miles. But"}, {"start": "01:57:04", "end": "01:57:07", "text": "people always say the the stones from"}, {"start": "01:57:06", "end": "01:57:10", "text": "Aswan came 500 miles. Well, in"}, {"start": "01:57:07", "end": "01:57:11", "text": "Alexandria, they went 700 miles to be"}, {"start": "01:57:10", "end": "01:57:13", "text": "used uh for the lighthouse. So the"}, {"start": "01:57:11", "end": "01:57:14", "text": "lighthouse is built within just a few"}, {"start": "01:57:13", "end": "01:57:16", "text": "feet of being the same height as the"}, {"start": "01:57:14", "end": "01:57:18", "text": "Great Pyramid. So Ptolemy is telling the"}, {"start": "01:57:16", "end": "01:57:21", "text": "Egyptians, \"We're going back. We're"}, {"start": "01:57:18", "end": "01:57:23", "text": "going all the way back. Those pyramids"}, {"start": "01:57:21", "end": "01:57:25", "text": "that have loomed over your civilization"}, {"start": "01:57:23", "end": "01:57:26", "text": "for the last 200 years, that you always"}, {"start": "01:57:25", "end": "01:57:28", "text": "say you wish you could go back to the"}, {"start": "01:57:26", "end": "01:57:29", "text": "golden days. Like in the Middle Kingdom,"}, {"start": "01:57:28", "end": "01:57:31", "text": "there are these things that are called"}, {"start": "01:57:29", "end": "01:57:33", "text": "the laments, which are these writings"}, {"start": "01:57:31", "end": "01:57:35", "text": "that come out of that come out of"}, {"start": "01:57:33", "end": "01:57:36", "text": "uh the Middle Kingdom. And uh and it's"}, {"start": "01:57:35", "end": "01:57:40", "text": "basically these people like lamenting"}, {"start": "01:57:36", "end": "01:57:42", "text": "over like how crappy early Old Kingdom"}, {"start": "01:57:40", "end": "01:57:43", "text": "early Middle Kingdom was. And they wish"}, {"start": "01:57:42", "end": "01:57:44", "text": "that they could go back to the time of"}, {"start": "01:57:43", "end": "01:57:46", "text": "their great-great-great-grandfathers."}, {"start": "01:57:44", "end": "01:57:48", "text": "And so they would call it the golden age"}, {"start": "01:57:46", "end": "01:57:51", "text": "of the golden days or golden age of"}, {"start": "01:57:48", "end": "01:57:52", "text": "Sneferu, which is supposedly he lived"}, {"start": "01:57:51", "end": "01:57:54", "text": "before the Great Pyramids. But it was a"}, {"start": "01:57:52", "end": "01:57:56", "text": "it was a time of like immense wealth in"}, {"start": "01:57:54", "end": "01:57:58", "text": "Egypt. And so the Egyptians throughout"}, {"start": "01:57:56", "end": "01:58:00", "text": "all their history, they they look at"}, {"start": "01:57:58", "end": "01:58:03", "text": "those pyramids and they're like, \"Man,"}, {"start": "01:58:00", "end": "01:58:05", "text": "like you know, E- Egypt after the 19th"}, {"start": "01:58:03", "end": "01:58:07", "text": "Dynasty kind of becomes a backwater of"}, {"start": "01:58:05", "end": "01:58:08", "text": "the Mediterranean. Everyone around Egypt"}, {"start": "01:58:07", "end": "01:58:10", "text": "becomes just as powerful as them, and"}, {"start": "01:58:08", "end": "01:58:12", "text": "then they eclipse the Egyptians, and the"}, {"start": "01:58:10", "end": "01:58:14", "text": "Egyptians just it's just this backwater"}, {"start": "01:58:12", "end": "01:58:15", "text": "dump that all these people live in in"}, {"start": "01:58:14", "end": "01:58:17", "text": "the shadow of the pyramids.\" And so"}, {"start": "01:58:15", "end": "01:58:20", "text": "Ptolemy goes, \"No, we're going back"}, {"start": "01:58:17", "end": "01:58:22", "text": "now.\" So he fuels"}, {"start": "01:58:20", "end": "01:58:24", "text": "Egypt with all this money that came from"}, {"start": "01:58:22", "end": "01:58:27", "text": "Alexander's empire."}, {"start": "01:58:24", "end": "01:58:29", "text": "And now the uh and now the grain that"}, {"start": "01:58:27", "end": "01:58:32", "text": "comes from Egypt is not being extorted"}, {"start": "01:58:29", "end": "01:58:33", "text": "by the Persians or anyone else uh or the"}, {"start": "01:58:32", "end": "01:58:34", "text": "Assyrians. I think they were conquered"}, {"start": "01:58:33", "end": "01:58:36", "text": "by the Assyrians shortly. They're not"}, {"start": "01:58:34", "end": "01:58:39", "text": "being extorted. Even though it's a Greek"}, {"start": "01:58:36", "end": "01:58:41", "text": "in power, it's now like the old days"}, {"start": "01:58:39", "end": "01:58:44", "text": "because that Greek lives solely in"}, {"start": "01:58:41", "end": "01:58:45", "text": "Egypt. This is the capital moved north."}, {"start": "01:58:44", "end": "01:58:46", "text": "So Alexander brought back national"}, {"start": "01:58:45", "end": "01:58:48", "text": "pride."}, {"start": "01:58:46", "end": "01:58:49", "text": ">> Exactly. Exactly. Um it's actually the"}, {"start": "01:58:48", "end": "01:58:51", "text": "second time that happened in Egypt. The"}, {"start": "01:58:49", "end": "01:58:53", "text": "Nubians did that, too. The Nubians came"}, {"start": "01:58:51", "end": "01:58:54", "text": "north and they conquered Egypt and"}, {"start": "01:58:53", "end": "01:58:56", "text": "there's the saying that the Nubians were"}, {"start": "01:58:54", "end": "01:58:58", "text": "more Egyptian than the Egyptians. So,"}, {"start": "01:58:56", "end": "01:59:00", "text": "the Nubians restored Egypt to the way of"}, {"start": "01:58:58", "end": "01:59:01", "text": "the old."}, {"start": "01:59:00", "end": "01:59:03", "text": "Didn't they rule for a couple hundred"}, {"start": "01:59:01", "end": "01:59:04", "text": "years as well? Yeah, five five"}, {"start": "01:59:03", "end": "01:59:05", "text": "generations, I think. That's That's a"}, {"start": "01:59:04", "end": "01:59:10", "text": "long time."}, {"start": "01:59:05", "end": "01:59:12", "text": ">> Yeah. So, um you know, the Egyptians um"}, {"start": "01:59:10", "end": "01:59:14", "text": "Yes, it's a it's a fascinating history."}, {"start": "01:59:12", "end": "01:59:17", "text": "So, he brings So, Ptolemy brings back"}, {"start": "01:59:14", "end": "01:59:18", "text": "like national pride. And you know, he"}, {"start": "01:59:17", "end": "01:59:20", "text": "also has nowhere else to go. So, he's"}, {"start": "01:59:18", "end": "01:59:23", "text": "got to make this thing work. So, then he"}, {"start": "01:59:20", "end": "01:59:24", "text": "builds the Library of Alexandria. Now,"}, {"start": "01:59:23", "end": "01:59:27", "text": "when I say three and a half things, the"}, {"start": "01:59:24", "end": "01:59:28", "text": "half is that the Museion is connected to"}, {"start": "01:59:27", "end": "01:59:31", "text": "it. So, it's actually a university, not"}, {"start": "01:59:28", "end": "01:59:33", "text": "just a library. And so, in that library,"}, {"start": "01:59:31", "end": "01:59:35", "text": "everybody's heard the way it operates."}, {"start": "01:59:33", "end": "01:59:37", "text": "You would You would be going down the"}, {"start": "01:59:35", "end": "01:59:38", "text": "Mediterranean. You see the the"}, {"start": "01:59:37", "end": "01:59:41", "text": "lighthouse off in the distance. You come"}, {"start": "01:59:38", "end": "01:59:44", "text": "into the main harbor, opens up. Massive"}, {"start": "01:59:41", "end": "01:59:45", "text": "city made out of gleaming Tura white"}, {"start": "01:59:44", "end": "01:59:47", "text": "limestone, which is the same casing"}, {"start": "01:59:45", "end": "01:59:50", "text": "stones on the outside of the pyramids."}, {"start": "01:59:47", "end": "01:59:52", "text": "Uh marble that would be imported from uh"}, {"start": "01:59:50", "end": "01:59:53", "text": "I think there's some marble in Egypt,"}, {"start": "01:59:52", "end": "01:59:57", "text": "but they were also importing marble from"}, {"start": "01:59:53", "end": "01:59:59", "text": "Greece through the the markets and um"}, {"start": "01:59:57", "end": "02:00:00", "text": "all kinds of Egyptian granite. Like it"}, {"start": "01:59:59", "end": "02:00:02", "text": "just would have been a Pretty sure it"}, {"start": "02:00:00", "end": "02:00:04", "text": "would have been crazy city. Greatest"}, {"start": "02:00:02", "end": "02:00:06", "text": "city Greatest city ever built up to this"}, {"start": "02:00:04", "end": "02:00:08", "text": "point. Far more impressive than Athens."}, {"start": "02:00:06", "end": "02:00:11", "text": "And um and way more impressive than"}, {"start": "02:00:08", "end": "02:00:11", "text": "Rome. Rome is nothing at this point."}, {"start": "02:00:11", "end": "02:00:14", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "02:00:11", "end": "02:00:16", "text": "And so, uh so you pull in, you come up"}, {"start": "02:00:14", "end": "02:00:18", "text": "to the dock, and then and then officials"}, {"start": "02:00:16", "end": "02:00:19", "text": "would board your ship, and they would"}, {"start": "02:00:18", "end": "02:00:21", "text": "want to see your writings, like what you"}, {"start": "02:00:19", "end": "02:00:22", "text": "had. And they wouldn't take everything"}, {"start": "02:00:21", "end": "02:00:24", "text": "you had, but they would take the things"}, {"start": "02:00:22", "end": "02:00:25", "text": "that were important or things that they"}, {"start": "02:00:24", "end": "02:00:26", "text": "would like to have a copy of. So,"}, {"start": "02:00:25", "end": "02:00:29", "text": "they'll So, they'll say,"}, {"start": "02:00:26", "end": "02:00:32", "text": "\"We're going to transcribe this, copy it"}, {"start": "02:00:29", "end": "02:00:33", "text": "all down, and then upon when you leave,"}, {"start": "02:00:32", "end": "02:00:35", "text": "we'll have these ready to give back to"}, {"start": "02:00:33", "end": "02:00:37", "text": "you.\" But actually, they would keep the"}, {"start": "02:00:35", "end": "02:00:39", "text": "original and give you back the copy of"}, {"start": "02:00:37", "end": "02:00:42", "text": "what you had. So, they're collecting"}, {"start": "02:00:39", "end": "02:00:43", "text": "this massive archive of of all the known"}, {"start": "02:00:42", "end": "02:00:45", "text": "literature of the ancient world, and"}, {"start": "02:00:43", "end": "02:00:46", "text": "people are studying things."}, {"start": "02:00:45", "end": "02:00:48", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "02:00:46", "end": "02:00:50", "text": "I'm pretty sure it's a scientist that's"}, {"start": "02:00:48", "end": "02:00:52", "text": "a living in uh"}, {"start": "02:00:50", "end": "02:00:55", "text": "or a scholar that's living in Alexandria"}, {"start": "02:00:52", "end": "02:00:57", "text": "who has the realization that's um that"}, {"start": "02:00:55", "end": "02:00:59", "text": "the Earth is a sphere. Uh Eratosthenes."}, {"start": "02:00:57", "end": "02:01:00", "text": "I'm I'm pretty sure he's he's living in"}, {"start": "02:00:59", "end": "02:01:02", "text": "Alexandria when he performs this"}, {"start": "02:01:00", "end": "02:01:03", "text": "experiment. And you mentioned that it's"}, {"start": "02:01:02", "end": "02:01:05", "text": "more than a library cuz it was it was"}, {"start": "02:01:03", "end": "02:01:08", "text": "kind of like DARPA back then."}, {"start": "02:01:05", "end": "02:01:10", "text": "Experiments and science and all kinds of"}, {"start": "02:01:08", "end": "02:01:11", "text": "ex- things going on. Yeah, and you you"}, {"start": "02:01:10", "end": "02:01:14", "text": "had you know people"}, {"start": "02:01:11", "end": "02:01:15", "text": "showing up to the library to learn about"}, {"start": "02:01:14", "end": "02:01:17", "text": "a number of things. I mean, they're"}, {"start": "02:01:15", "end": "02:01:19", "text": "they're studying sacred geometry,"}, {"start": "02:01:17", "end": "02:01:21", "text": "they're studying the pyramids. We have a"}, {"start": "02:01:19", "end": "02:01:24", "text": "surviving uh piece of a papyrus that's"}, {"start": "02:01:21", "end": "02:01:25", "text": "like the geometry of the pyramid that"}, {"start": "02:01:24", "end": "02:01:26", "text": "they're writing down and you got these"}, {"start": "02:01:25", "end": "02:01:27", "text": "Greeks trying to figure out the way that"}, {"start": "02:01:26", "end": "02:01:29", "text": "the"}, {"start": "02:01:27", "end": "02:01:30", "text": "you know, why the pyramids were built"}, {"start": "02:01:29", "end": "02:01:32", "text": "the way that they were. It's it's really"}, {"start": "02:01:30", "end": "02:01:35", "text": "really interesting. Uh Manetho is"}, {"start": "02:01:32", "end": "02:01:37", "text": "writing his history of ancient Egypt"}, {"start": "02:01:35", "end": "02:01:39", "text": "probably in the library or associated"}, {"start": "02:01:37", "end": "02:01:40", "text": "with it at some point. And all the"}, {"start": "02:01:39", "end": "02:01:42", "text": "archaeology has backed up that he was"}, {"start": "02:01:40", "end": "02:01:43", "text": "correct. There There's even some"}, {"start": "02:01:42", "end": "02:01:45", "text": "particulars that I'm forgetting right"}, {"start": "02:01:43", "end": "02:01:47", "text": "now, but there were particulars that"}, {"start": "02:01:45", "end": "02:01:48", "text": "archaeologists disagreed with and then"}, {"start": "02:01:47", "end": "02:01:50", "text": "later on realized that they were wrong"}, {"start": "02:01:48", "end": "02:01:52", "text": "by disagreeing with him. So, it's it's"}, {"start": "02:01:50", "end": "02:01:54", "text": "it's really cool."}, {"start": "02:01:52", "end": "02:01:56", "text": "Um So,"}, {"start": "02:01:54", "end": "02:01:58", "text": "So, Alexandria is like this amazing"}, {"start": "02:01:56", "end": "02:02:00", "text": "beacon, but it needs one more thing. It"}, {"start": "02:01:58", "end": "02:02:03", "text": "needs Alexander's body. Okay."}, {"start": "02:02:00", "end": "02:02:05", "text": ">> And so, he launches this expedition and"}, {"start": "02:02:03", "end": "02:02:07", "text": "intercepts Alexander's body on the way"}, {"start": "02:02:05", "end": "02:02:08", "text": "back to Macedonia."}, {"start": "02:02:07", "end": "02:02:10", "text": "And I I think there's a little skirmish"}, {"start": "02:02:08", "end": "02:02:12", "text": "over it, but essentially Ptolemy's army"}, {"start": "02:02:10", "end": "02:02:14", "text": "is much more powerful. They confiscate"}, {"start": "02:02:12", "end": "02:02:16", "text": "his body. They bring it down to Memphis."}, {"start": "02:02:14", "end": "02:02:17", "text": "They hold it in Memphis for a very short"}, {"start": "02:02:16", "end": "02:02:20", "text": "period of time."}, {"start": "02:02:17", "end": "02:02:22", "text": "I think it was temporarily"}, {"start": "02:02:20", "end": "02:02:25", "text": "held in a tomb in Memphis and we might"}, {"start": "02:02:22", "end": "02:02:26", "text": "actually know what tomb that was. Uh I"}, {"start": "02:02:25", "end": "02:02:29", "text": "saw a lec- I saw like a lecture or"}, {"start": "02:02:26", "end": "02:02:30", "text": "presentation on this a few years ago."}, {"start": "02:02:29", "end": "02:02:33", "text": "But, they have decided to move his body"}, {"start": "02:02:30", "end": "02:02:35", "text": "north and they built this mausoleum for"}, {"start": "02:02:33", "end": "02:02:37", "text": "him. And he was buried in a solid gold"}, {"start": "02:02:35", "end": "02:02:39", "text": "sarcophagus with all of his, you know,"}, {"start": "02:02:37", "end": "02:02:42", "text": "treasures in the sarcophagus with him."}, {"start": "02:02:39", "end": "02:02:44", "text": "And so, the idea of the mausoleum um"}, {"start": "02:02:42", "end": "02:02:46", "text": "what what we think was that it sat in"}, {"start": "02:02:44", "end": "02:02:48", "text": "the center of the city. It was right"}, {"start": "02:02:46", "end": "02:02:49", "text": "across the street. So, you had Soma Road"}, {"start": "02:02:48", "end": "02:02:51", "text": "and Canopic Way. Those are the two main"}, {"start": "02:02:49", "end": "02:02:53", "text": "roads of Alexandria. And it sits right"}, {"start": "02:02:51", "end": "02:02:55", "text": "across the street from the Library of"}, {"start": "02:02:53", "end": "02:02:57", "text": "Alexandria and the Museon. So, if you're"}, {"start": "02:02:55", "end": "02:02:59", "text": "walking to work in the morning, you got"}, {"start": "02:02:57", "end": "02:03:01", "text": "to walk underneath this huge mausoleum"}, {"start": "02:02:59", "end": "02:03:03", "text": "with a statue of Alexander on top of it."}, {"start": "02:03:01", "end": "02:03:05", "text": "And then to the right is the library and"}, {"start": "02:03:03", "end": "02:03:07", "text": "the Museon as you're going wherever it"}, {"start": "02:03:05", "end": "02:03:08", "text": "is that you're going in town that day."}, {"start": "02:03:07", "end": "02:03:10", "text": "And so, every day people would have"}, {"start": "02:03:08", "end": "02:03:12", "text": "walked by and seen, you know, seen it"}, {"start": "02:03:10", "end": "02:03:14", "text": "right in the center of town, Alexander's"}, {"start": "02:03:12", "end": "02:03:16", "text": "mausoleum. They must have been so proud"}, {"start": "02:03:14", "end": "02:03:17", "text": "to live there. Exactly. It's just glory"}, {"start": "02:03:16", "end": "02:03:18", "text": "all around. Exactly."}, {"start": "02:03:17", "end": "02:03:21", "text": ">> There's nothing like this in the world."}, {"start": "02:03:18", "end": "02:03:24", "text": "And so, by Ptolemy securing Alexander's"}, {"start": "02:03:21", "end": "02:03:26", "text": "body, he's much more able to then"}, {"start": "02:03:24", "end": "02:03:28", "text": "declare himself the heir to Alexander."}, {"start": "02:03:26", "end": "02:03:30", "text": "He's now going to be He's now not just"}, {"start": "02:03:28", "end": "02:03:32", "text": "the governor of Egypt, which is what he"}, {"start": "02:03:30", "end": "02:03:34", "text": "was for a long time."}, {"start": "02:03:32", "end": "02:03:37", "text": "Uh let me let me see. He becomes"}, {"start": "02:03:34", "end": "02:03:39", "text": "governor of Egypt"}, {"start": "02:03:37", "end": "02:03:39", "text": "When did When does uh Alexander die like"}, {"start": "02:03:39", "end": "02:03:42", "text": "like"}, {"start": "02:03:39", "end": "02:03:44", "text": ">> 323 BC or something?"}, {"start": "02:03:42", "end": "02:03:45", "text": "Yeah, cuz he visits Egypt in 331 and"}, {"start": "02:03:44", "end": "02:03:47", "text": "then he leaves and never comes back."}, {"start": "02:03:45", "end": "02:03:50", "text": ">> Yeah. And I think it's not until about"}, {"start": "02:03:47", "end": "02:03:52", "text": "310 BC. So, it's more than 10 years"}, {"start": "02:03:50", "end": "02:03:54", "text": "later that Ptolemy"}, {"start": "02:03:52", "end": "02:03:56", "text": "finally is in a place where he declares"}, {"start": "02:03:54", "end": "02:03:58", "text": "himself pharaoh and we we have like"}, {"start": "02:03:56", "end": "02:03:59", "text": "these diorite"}, {"start": "02:03:58", "end": "02:04:02", "text": "uh"}, {"start": "02:03:59", "end": "02:04:04", "text": "um busts of him as a pharaoh."}, {"start": "02:04:02", "end": "02:04:06", "text": "And so, he declares himself pharaoh and"}, {"start": "02:04:04", "end": "02:04:09", "text": "now the Ptolemaic dynasty begins. And"}, {"start": "02:04:06", "end": "02:04:11", "text": "that's going to go on for 300 years. And"}, {"start": "02:04:09", "end": "02:04:13", "text": "so, at the beginning of that dynasty, we"}, {"start": "02:04:11", "end": "02:04:15", "text": "have what's called the the three good"}, {"start": "02:04:13", "end": "02:04:16", "text": "Ptolemies."}, {"start": "02:04:15", "end": "02:04:18", "text": "And uh so, Ptolemy I,"}, {"start": "02:04:16", "end": "02:04:20", "text": "he's the one that really expands"}, {"start": "02:04:18", "end": "02:04:22", "text": "Alexandria. He gets the um"}, {"start": "02:04:20", "end": "02:04:24", "text": "We don't actually know when the li- when"}, {"start": "02:04:22", "end": "02:04:25", "text": "the uh when the library, the Museon, and"}, {"start": "02:04:24", "end": "02:04:27", "text": "the lighthouse were done with their"}, {"start": "02:04:25", "end": "02:04:29", "text": "construction."}, {"start": "02:04:27", "end": "02:04:33", "text": "Um or we don't know if they were done"}, {"start": "02:04:29", "end": "02:04:35", "text": "during his lifetime. But Ptolemy II,"}, {"start": "02:04:33", "end": "02:04:37", "text": "they are complete during during his"}, {"start": "02:04:35", "end": "02:04:39", "text": "lifetime. And then Ptolemy III is born,"}, {"start": "02:04:37", "end": "02:04:40", "text": "and they're just constantly expanding"}, {"start": "02:04:39", "end": "02:04:41", "text": "the"}, {"start": "02:04:40", "end": "02:04:42", "text": ">> as the pharaoh, yeah."}, {"start": "02:04:41", "end": "02:04:44", "text": ">> Yeah, it's really, really cool. So,"}, {"start": "02:04:42", "end": "02:04:46", "text": "they're just constantly expanding"}, {"start": "02:04:44", "end": "02:04:48", "text": "Egypt's wealth during this time period."}, {"start": "02:04:46", "end": "02:04:49", "text": "Egypt is filthy rich now."}, {"start": "02:04:48", "end": "02:04:50", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "02:04:49", "end": "02:04:52", "text": "Probably the Egyptians are like, \"Well,"}, {"start": "02:04:50", "end": "02:04:54", "text": "I wish our pharaoh was Egyptian, but"}, {"start": "02:04:52", "end": "02:04:56", "text": ">> But things are going pretty good for us"}, {"start": "02:04:54", "end": "02:04:58", "text": "right now.\""}, {"start": "02:04:56", "end": "02:05:01", "text": "Then we have Ptolemy IV that's born, and"}, {"start": "02:04:58", "end": "02:05:02", "text": "Game of Thrones begins. And um"}, {"start": "02:05:01", "end": "02:05:04", "text": "I don't know exactly when he's born. It"}, {"start": "02:05:02", "end": "02:05:06", "text": "must be"}, {"start": "02:05:04", "end": "02:05:07", "text": "It's probably sometime around 250 BC, I"}, {"start": "02:05:06", "end": "02:05:12", "text": "would guess, maybe a little bit after"}, {"start": "02:05:07", "end": "02:05:14", "text": "that. Um but things start going south"}, {"start": "02:05:12", "end": "02:05:16", "text": "right here. These Ptolemies don't really"}, {"start": "02:05:14", "end": "02:05:18", "text": "care about being"}, {"start": "02:05:16", "end": "02:05:20", "text": "involved with Egyptian culture at all."}, {"start": "02:05:18", "end": "02:05:22", "text": "They don't really care about being"}, {"start": "02:05:20", "end": "02:05:24", "text": "invested into the Egyptian uh world."}, {"start": "02:05:22", "end": "02:05:25", "text": "None of them speak Egyptian. None of"}, {"start": "02:05:24", "end": "02:05:27", "text": "them can read Egyptian hieroglyphs."}, {"start": "02:05:25", "end": "02:05:29", "text": "They're They're like disconnected. They"}, {"start": "02:05:27", "end": "02:05:30", "text": "live in their palace."}, {"start": "02:05:29", "end": "02:05:32", "text": "And they're kind of like, \"Let them eat"}, {"start": "02:05:30", "end": "02:05:33", "text": "cake.\" You know, that's that's sort of"}, {"start": "02:05:32", "end": "02:05:34", "text": "It's kind of like nepo babies. It's"}, {"start": "02:05:33", "end": "02:05:34", "text": "[clears throat]"}, {"start": "02:05:34", "end": "02:05:36", "text": ">> Yeah, exactly."}, {"start": "02:05:34", "end": "02:05:37", "text": ">> hard to say that, but that's really what"}, {"start": "02:05:36", "end": "02:05:38", "text": "they were, spoiled brats."}, {"start": "02:05:37", "end": "02:05:41", "text": ">> Yeah, and it all starts falling apart."}, {"start": "02:05:38", "end": "02:05:45", "text": "And then by about 150"}, {"start": "02:05:41", "end": "02:05:46", "text": "Uh yeah, I think it's about 150 BC. Uh"}, {"start": "02:05:45", "end": "02:05:48", "text": "Ptolemy"}, {"start": "02:05:46", "end": "02:05:50", "text": "the 10th is born."}, {"start": "02:05:48", "end": "02:05:54", "text": "And"}, {"start": "02:05:50", "end": "02:05:58", "text": "Alexandria is so far in debt"}, {"start": "02:05:54", "end": "02:06:00", "text": "that it things are so bad, actually."}, {"start": "02:05:58", "end": "02:06:03", "text": "Think about how Think about how"}, {"start": "02:06:00", "end": "02:06:06", "text": "far Egypt has fallen in 150 years."}, {"start": "02:06:03", "end": "02:06:08", "text": "That they're so far in debt that Ptolemy"}, {"start": "02:06:06", "end": "02:06:10", "text": "the 10th has no choice but to go down"}, {"start": "02:06:08", "end": "02:06:12", "text": "into the mausoleum of Alexander."}, {"start": "02:06:10", "end": "02:06:14", "text": "They exhume his body from the gold"}, {"start": "02:06:12", "end": "02:06:16", "text": "sarcophagus, and they build him what"}, {"start": "02:06:14", "end": "02:06:19", "text": "they call a crystal sarcophagus, which"}, {"start": "02:06:16", "end": "02:06:21", "text": "is probably alabaster, which is like"}, {"start": "02:06:19", "end": "02:06:22", "text": "you know, some mid-level people"}, {"start": "02:06:21", "end": "02:06:24", "text": "throughout Egypt could afford an"}, {"start": "02:06:22", "end": "02:06:25", "text": "alabaster sarcophagus."}, {"start": "02:06:24", "end": "02:06:26", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "02:06:25", "end": "02:06:28", "text": "so, it's really not a high honor to be"}, {"start": "02:06:26", "end": "02:06:29", "text": "put in alabaster sarcophagus. And he"}, {"start": "02:06:28", "end": "02:06:31", "text": "just wants the gold."}, {"start": "02:06:29", "end": "02:06:33", "text": ">> They They melt down all of the gold that"}, {"start": "02:06:31", "end": "02:06:35", "text": "Alexander was born with that he had been"}, {"start": "02:06:33", "end": "02:06:37", "text": "resting in for the last 170 years and"}, {"start": "02:06:35", "end": "02:06:39", "text": "that is gone. You know, it gets melted"}, {"start": "02:06:37", "end": "02:06:42", "text": "down and it probably gets sold off to"}, {"start": "02:06:39", "end": "02:06:47", "text": "partly pay the debt. So,"}, {"start": "02:06:42", "end": "02:06:48", "text": "uh Ptolemy the 11th is born."}, {"start": "02:06:47", "end": "02:06:51", "text": "And he's not a very good pharaoh."}, {"start": "02:06:48", "end": "02:06:52", "text": "Ptolemy the 12th is born. Now, we're"}, {"start": "02:06:51", "end": "02:06:55", "text": "getting close to Cleopatra Mark Antony"}, {"start": "02:06:52", "end": "02:06:56", "text": "time. Ptolemy the 12th is um"}, {"start": "02:06:55", "end": "02:07:00", "text": "is"}, {"start": "02:06:56", "end": "02:07:01", "text": "Alex- or Ptolemy the 12th is Cleopatra's"}, {"start": "02:07:00", "end": "02:07:03", "text": "father, I believe. Or maybe it's Ptolemy"}, {"start": "02:07:01", "end": "02:07:04", "text": "the 13th, but I think Ptolemy the 13th"}, {"start": "02:07:03", "end": "02:07:06", "text": "is her brother."}, {"start": "02:07:04", "end": "02:07:08", "text": "So, long story short with Cleopatra and"}, {"start": "02:07:06", "end": "02:07:08", "text": "we're getting to like what happened to"}, {"start": "02:07:08", "end": "02:07:10", "text": "Alexander's body."}, {"start": "02:07:08", "end": "02:07:12", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "02:07:10", "end": "02:07:13", "text": "So, long story short with Cleopatra,"}, {"start": "02:07:12", "end": "02:07:13", "text": "um"}, {"start": "02:07:13", "end": "02:07:16", "text": ">> [clears throat]"}, {"start": "02:07:13", "end": "02:07:18", "text": ">> she for some reason I I I heard Dr. Bob"}, {"start": "02:07:16", "end": "02:07:20", "text": "Brier like imagine this one time and he"}, {"start": "02:07:18", "end": "02:07:22", "text": "was like he was like, \"You know, we have"}, {"start": "02:07:20", "end": "02:07:24", "text": "we have a record of Cleopatra's family"}, {"start": "02:07:22", "end": "02:07:26", "text": "going on a family vacation down to"}, {"start": "02:07:24", "end": "02:07:28", "text": "Memphis.\""}, {"start": "02:07:26", "end": "02:07:30", "text": "Probably they spend the vast majority of"}, {"start": "02:07:28", "end": "02:07:32", "text": "their life in Alexandria."}, {"start": "02:07:30", "end": "02:07:34", "text": "And there was something about Cleopatra"}, {"start": "02:07:32", "end": "02:07:36", "text": "that just made her curious about her"}, {"start": "02:07:34", "end": "02:07:39", "text": "world. She was clearly invested in the"}, {"start": "02:07:36", "end": "02:07:41", "text": "library uh judging by when the library"}, {"start": "02:07:39", "end": "02:07:42", "text": "gets attacked and part of it gets burned"}, {"start": "02:07:41", "end": "02:07:45", "text": "down, she's like devastated by that."}, {"start": "02:07:42", "end": "02:07:47", "text": "Mark Antony gives her a gift to repay"}, {"start": "02:07:45", "end": "02:07:49", "text": "her by donating like 200,000 books to"}, {"start": "02:07:47", "end": "02:07:51", "text": "the library"}, {"start": "02:07:49", "end": "02:07:52", "text": "um which is This was Caesar who burned"}, {"start": "02:07:51", "end": "02:07:53", "text": "it that first time."}, {"start": "02:07:52", "end": "02:07:55", "text": ">> The first time, yeah, yeah. And then"}, {"start": "02:07:53", "end": "02:07:56", "text": "it's burned again by Augustus uh later"}, {"start": "02:07:55", "end": "02:07:58", "text": "on."}, {"start": "02:07:56", "end": "02:08:00", "text": "So, um"}, {"start": "02:07:58", "end": "02:08:03", "text": "and then it's burned again by"}, {"start": "02:08:00", "end": "02:08:05", "text": "uh Aurelian and it's burned by"}, {"start": "02:08:03", "end": "02:08:07", "text": "Caracalla. Yeah, it's"}, {"start": "02:08:05", "end": "02:08:09", "text": "it actually gets destroyed like five"}, {"start": "02:08:07", "end": "02:08:11", "text": "times. Um but most people just just only"}, {"start": "02:08:09", "end": "02:08:13", "text": "remember the the first. But, um And I"}, {"start": "02:08:11", "end": "02:08:16", "text": "think the first is probably the least"}, {"start": "02:08:13", "end": "02:08:18", "text": "damaging. Oh, the last one is the last"}, {"start": "02:08:16", "end": "02:08:18", "text": "one is the most. We'll we'll get there."}, {"start": "02:08:18", "end": "02:08:21", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "02:08:18", "end": "02:08:23", "text": "so, there's this family there's this"}, {"start": "02:08:21", "end": "02:08:25", "text": "record of them going on a family"}, {"start": "02:08:23", "end": "02:08:28", "text": "vacation. They go on a not a family"}, {"start": "02:08:25", "end": "02:08:29", "text": "vacation but a royal visit to Memphis."}, {"start": "02:08:28", "end": "02:08:30", "text": "And one of the things she would have"}, {"start": "02:08:29", "end": "02:08:33", "text": "definitely been taken to was to go see"}, {"start": "02:08:30", "end": "02:08:34", "text": "the pyramids, but at this point in time,"}, {"start": "02:08:33", "end": "02:08:37", "text": "like we were talking about earlier, the"}, {"start": "02:08:34", "end": "02:08:40", "text": "Apis bull is the central deity of the"}, {"start": "02:08:37", "end": "02:08:41", "text": "Egyptian world. Well, from what we know,"}, {"start": "02:08:40", "end": "02:08:43", "text": "the Egyptians interpreted, whether"}, {"start": "02:08:41", "end": "02:08:46", "text": "people agree with it or not, the"}, {"start": "02:08:43", "end": "02:08:47", "text": "Serapeum, um which is that labyrinth"}, {"start": "02:08:46", "end": "02:08:49", "text": "that's under the ground where these"}, {"start": "02:08:47", "end": "02:08:51", "text": "massive, you know, bull boxes are. They"}, {"start": "02:08:49", "end": "02:08:54", "text": "call them the Serapeum boxes, the bull"}, {"start": "02:08:51", "end": "02:08:55", "text": "sarcophagi, whatever. Um she They would"}, {"start": "02:08:54", "end": "02:08:57", "text": "have definitely gone down in there."}, {"start": "02:08:55", "end": "02:09:00", "text": "There's no question that Cleopatra"}, {"start": "02:08:57", "end": "02:09:03", "text": "walked those halls as a little girl, and"}, {"start": "02:09:00", "end": "02:09:04", "text": "she probably was mystified by the"}, {"start": "02:09:03", "end": "02:09:06", "text": "mystery of this underground place that's"}, {"start": "02:09:04", "end": "02:09:08", "text": "super ancient, and she's hearing"}, {"start": "02:09:06", "end": "02:09:10", "text": "Egyptian being spoken next to her, and"}, {"start": "02:09:08", "end": "02:09:12", "text": "you know, it's kind of like one of those"}, {"start": "02:09:10", "end": "02:09:14", "text": "people who break out of some kind of"}, {"start": "02:09:12", "end": "02:09:15", "text": "family cycle. Some Something is ticking"}, {"start": "02:09:14", "end": "02:09:18", "text": "in their brain differently than"}, {"start": "02:09:15", "end": "02:09:20", "text": "everybody else, and she's she's"}, {"start": "02:09:18", "end": "02:09:22", "text": "captivated by all of it. Well, she"}, {"start": "02:09:20", "end": "02:09:23", "text": "becomes like a polyglot and starts to"}, {"start": "02:09:22", "end": "02:09:24", "text": "learning like every language. I think"}, {"start": "02:09:23", "end": "02:09:27", "text": "they they say that she could speak like"}, {"start": "02:09:24", "end": "02:09:29", "text": "seven language flu- seven languages"}, {"start": "02:09:27", "end": "02:09:31", "text": "fluently, or maybe more. Um but she"}, {"start": "02:09:29", "end": "02:09:32", "text": "could she could speak, read, and write"}, {"start": "02:09:31", "end": "02:09:36", "text": "Egyptian."}, {"start": "02:09:32", "end": "02:09:38", "text": "And uh she loved that culture. And"}, {"start": "02:09:36", "end": "02:09:40", "text": "through, by hook or by crook, she finds"}, {"start": "02:09:38", "end": "02:09:42", "text": "herself as pharaoh. Whether or not she"}, {"start": "02:09:40", "end": "02:09:43", "text": "had her siblings killed, all of them"}, {"start": "02:09:42", "end": "02:09:44", "text": "killed on purpose, whether or not she"}, {"start": "02:09:43", "end": "02:09:46", "text": "had her brother killed, we don't really"}, {"start": "02:09:44", "end": "02:09:48", "text": "know. They say he drowned."}, {"start": "02:09:46", "end": "02:09:49", "text": "Um you know, so we don't we don't really"}, {"start": "02:09:48", "end": "02:09:52", "text": "know."}, {"start": "02:09:49", "end": "02:09:54", "text": "But she becomes a pharaoh, and everybody"}, {"start": "02:09:52", "end": "02:09:55", "text": "knows the the famous story, but"}, {"start": "02:09:54", "end": "02:09:58", "text": "ultimately at the end of Cleopatra's"}, {"start": "02:09:55", "end": "02:10:00", "text": "life, um"}, {"start": "02:09:58", "end": "02:10:01", "text": "the Romans have fully sunk in their"}, {"start": "02:10:00", "end": "02:10:03", "text": "claws into Alexandria. And the way that"}, {"start": "02:10:01", "end": "02:10:05", "text": "this started was the original Ptolemies."}, {"start": "02:10:03", "end": "02:10:06", "text": "So, the Romans built up their power"}, {"start": "02:10:05", "end": "02:10:09", "text": "throughout the Mediterranean world by"}, {"start": "02:10:06", "end": "02:10:11", "text": "being mercenaries for other people. So,"}, {"start": "02:10:09", "end": "02:10:13", "text": "they have this great standing army that"}, {"start": "02:10:11", "end": "02:10:15", "text": "nobody else has."}, {"start": "02:10:13", "end": "02:10:17", "text": "But the city of Rome is just mud and"}, {"start": "02:10:15", "end": "02:10:19", "text": "bricks. It's nothing special at all."}, {"start": "02:10:17", "end": "02:10:22", "text": "It's just a It's literally a dump."}, {"start": "02:10:19", "end": "02:10:24", "text": "There's no amazing public architecture."}, {"start": "02:10:22", "end": "02:10:25", "text": "There's no Colosseum. There's no Circus"}, {"start": "02:10:24", "end": "02:10:27", "text": "Maximus. I don't think the Circus"}, {"start": "02:10:25", "end": "02:10:29", "text": "Maximus is there, at least not in the"}, {"start": "02:10:27", "end": "02:10:32", "text": "way that it later would be."}, {"start": "02:10:29", "end": "02:10:34", "text": "Even while Cleopatra is alive, which is,"}, {"start": "02:10:32", "end": "02:10:37", "text": "you know, let's call it roughly 40 BC,"}, {"start": "02:10:34", "end": "02:10:39", "text": "Rome is just a city of mud brick."}, {"start": "02:10:37", "end": "02:10:40", "text": "And um"}, {"start": "02:10:39", "end": "02:10:41", "text": "and the only reason it has power is"}, {"start": "02:10:40", "end": "02:10:43", "text": "because it's got this amazing"}, {"start": "02:10:41", "end": "02:10:45", "text": "well-trained standing army. So, when the"}, {"start": "02:10:43", "end": "02:10:48", "text": "Ptolemy's power is waning over these"}, {"start": "02:10:45", "end": "02:10:49", "text": "last few hundred years following"}, {"start": "02:10:48", "end": "02:10:50", "text": "Ptolemy III."}, {"start": "02:10:49", "end": "02:10:53", "text": "Uh"}, {"start": "02:10:50", "end": "02:10:55", "text": "what they do to keep the rebellions down"}, {"start": "02:10:53", "end": "02:10:58", "text": "in Egypt is they hire Roman mercenaries"}, {"start": "02:10:55", "end": "02:11:01", "text": "to come in. So, all of a sudden"}, {"start": "02:10:58", "end": "02:11:03", "text": "Egypt gets politically"}, {"start": "02:11:01", "end": "02:11:05", "text": "invaded. Like it like the Romans are"}, {"start": "02:11:03", "end": "02:11:07", "text": "basically performing espionage inside"}, {"start": "02:11:05", "end": "02:11:09", "text": "the inside Alexandria. They're sinking"}, {"start": "02:11:07", "end": "02:11:11", "text": "their claws in and becoming more"}, {"start": "02:11:09", "end": "02:11:13", "text": "powerful in Alexandria slowly slowly"}, {"start": "02:11:11", "end": "02:11:15", "text": "slowly slowly over time until the"}, {"start": "02:11:13", "end": "02:11:18", "text": "Ptolemies are so weak that all the"}, {"start": "02:11:15", "end": "02:11:20", "text": "pharaohs got to do is walk in and"}, {"start": "02:11:18", "end": "02:11:21", "text": "or all all the Roman emperor or a"}, {"start": "02:11:20", "end": "02:11:22", "text": "wealthy Roman is going to walk in and be"}, {"start": "02:11:21", "end": "02:11:25", "text": "like, well, what are you going to do"}, {"start": "02:11:22", "end": "02:11:26", "text": "now? Right. And that was that and"}, {"start": "02:11:25", "end": "02:11:28", "text": "Cleopatra knew that. That's why she"}, {"start": "02:11:26", "end": "02:11:29", "text": "seduced"}, {"start": "02:11:28", "end": "02:11:31", "text": "um Julius Caesar because rather than"}, {"start": "02:11:29", "end": "02:11:33", "text": "being conquered by him, if she could"}, {"start": "02:11:31", "end": "02:11:36", "text": "marry him, she could pull the Roman"}, {"start": "02:11:33", "end": "02:11:37", "text": "capital down to Alexandria instead. And"}, {"start": "02:11:36", "end": "02:11:39", "text": "that's what Julius Caesar wanted to do."}, {"start": "02:11:37", "end": "02:11:41", "text": "That's why he That's ultimately why he"}, {"start": "02:11:39", "end": "02:11:42", "text": "got killed. Uh Yeah, there's this little"}, {"start": "02:11:41", "end": "02:11:44", "text": "rumor that that they had a child"}, {"start": "02:11:42", "end": "02:11:48", "text": "together. Oh, they definitely did. Uh"}, {"start": "02:11:44", "end": "02:11:51", "text": "Caesarion. Yep. Yeah. Uh"}, {"start": "02:11:48", "end": "02:11:54", "text": "Augustus killed him for sure. Um What is"}, {"start": "02:11:51", "end": "02:11:55", "text": "there to the story that Augustus knocked"}, {"start": "02:11:54", "end": "02:11:56", "text": "off Alexander's nose when"}, {"start": "02:11:55", "end": "02:11:58", "text": "[clears throat] he went to visit the"}, {"start": "02:11:56", "end": "02:12:00", "text": "body?"}, {"start": "02:11:58", "end": "02:12:03", "text": "Oh, is that Augustus or is that um I"}, {"start": "02:12:00", "end": "02:12:03", "text": "thought it was Augustus Octavian."}, {"start": "02:12:03", "end": "02:12:06", "text": "Could be wrong."}, {"start": "02:12:05", "end": "02:12:08", "text": "I talked to a fish."}, {"start": "02:12:06", "end": "02:12:10", "text": "I think I think you might be right. It's"}, {"start": "02:12:08", "end": "02:12:12", "text": "one It's one of those It's one of those"}, {"start": "02:12:10", "end": "02:12:14", "text": "Roman emperors and I bet that's true. He"}, {"start": "02:12:12", "end": "02:12:17", "text": "bends down to kiss him and the nose like"}, {"start": "02:12:14", "end": "02:12:19", "text": "the nose disintegrates. Um"}, {"start": "02:12:17", "end": "02:12:21", "text": "Yeah, but there was another there was"}, {"start": "02:12:19", "end": "02:12:23", "text": "another guy who was more obsessed with"}, {"start": "02:12:21", "end": "02:12:24", "text": "Alexander, I believe."}, {"start": "02:12:23", "end": "02:12:26", "text": "Uh"}, {"start": "02:12:24", "end": "02:12:28", "text": "It may have been Caligula. Or it may"}, {"start": "02:12:26", "end": "02:12:31", "text": "have been Caracalla."}, {"start": "02:12:28", "end": "02:12:35", "text": "Uh who comes to Alexandria and wants to"}, {"start": "02:12:31", "end": "02:12:37", "text": "see Alexander's tomb and puts on"}, {"start": "02:12:35", "end": "02:12:39", "text": "Alexander's breastplate. Oh my goodness."}, {"start": "02:12:37", "end": "02:12:41", "text": ">> Yeah, takes it off of his body and puts"}, {"start": "02:12:39", "end": "02:12:42", "text": "it on. I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure."}, {"start": "02:12:41", "end": "02:12:44", "text": "Uh yeah, some of those Roman emperors"}, {"start": "02:12:42", "end": "02:12:46", "text": "they're they're You should have on a guy"}, {"start": "02:12:44", "end": "02:12:48", "text": "who's who's an expert in in Rome stuff"}, {"start": "02:12:46", "end": "02:12:49", "text": "because those emperors are crazy, man."}, {"start": "02:12:48", "end": "02:12:51", "text": ">> That sounds like a Caligula move to"}, {"start": "02:12:49", "end": "02:12:52", "text": "make. Yeah, it does sound like like"}, {"start": "02:12:51", "end": "02:12:54", "text": "something Caligula would do, but it"}, {"start": "02:12:52", "end": "02:12:55", "text": "could be Caracalla, too. He Caracalla"}, {"start": "02:12:54", "end": "02:12:58", "text": "was a crazy guy, also."}, {"start": "02:12:55", "end": "02:13:01", "text": "Um but but uh Augustus was very"}, {"start": "02:12:58", "end": "02:13:03", "text": "respectful. Augustus is like, you know,"}, {"start": "02:13:01", "end": "02:13:05", "text": "a lot of people hold Julius Caesar up as"}, {"start": "02:13:03", "end": "02:13:07", "text": "being like the truest Roman. I don't"}, {"start": "02:13:05", "end": "02:13:10", "text": "know. It might be Augustus because"}, {"start": "02:13:07", "end": "02:13:12", "text": "Augustus is ruthless but respectful."}, {"start": "02:13:10", "end": "02:13:13", "text": "Mhm. So, I"}, {"start": "02:13:12", "end": "02:13:16", "text": "think it's the story of Augustus or it"}, {"start": "02:13:13", "end": "02:13:18", "text": "might be Julius Caesar. Um"}, {"start": "02:13:16", "end": "02:13:20", "text": "when he shows up to um"}, {"start": "02:13:18", "end": "02:13:22", "text": "Alexandria, he wants to see uh"}, {"start": "02:13:20", "end": "02:13:23", "text": "Alexander's tomb."}, {"start": "02:13:22", "end": "02:13:25", "text": "So, they bring him down into the"}, {"start": "02:13:23", "end": "02:13:27", "text": "mausoleum, but also buried there were"}, {"start": "02:13:25", "end": "02:13:29", "text": "the uh"}, {"start": "02:13:27", "end": "02:13:30", "text": "sarcophagi of all the other Ptolemaic"}, {"start": "02:13:29", "end": "02:13:32", "text": "kings. They're all buried around"}, {"start": "02:13:30", "end": "02:13:34", "text": "Alexander. So, it's this huge mausoleum"}, {"start": "02:13:32", "end": "02:13:36", "text": "and they're all buried in it, right? So,"}, {"start": "02:13:34", "end": "02:13:37", "text": "you It's like a museum. You can see,"}, {"start": "02:13:36", "end": "02:13:40", "text": "well, here's Alex Here's Alexander in"}, {"start": "02:13:37", "end": "02:13:41", "text": "the center. Over there's Ptolemy I all"}, {"start": "02:13:40", "end": "02:13:43", "text": "the way to Ptolemy XIII."}, {"start": "02:13:41", "end": "02:13:44", "text": "And it might be Augustus or it's Julius"}, {"start": "02:13:43", "end": "02:13:45", "text": "Caesar has this funny thing where they"}, {"start": "02:13:44", "end": "02:13:46", "text": "ask him,"}, {"start": "02:13:45", "end": "02:13:48", "text": "\"Okay, do you want to see dead guys?\""}, {"start": "02:13:46", "end": "02:13:50", "text": "And he's like, \"No, I came to see a"}, {"start": "02:13:48", "end": "02:13:51", "text": "king.\" Or something something like that."}, {"start": "02:13:50", "end": "02:13:54", "text": "And he basically just like shits on all"}, {"start": "02:13:51", "end": "02:13:56", "text": "the other, you know, Ptolemies. And uh"}, {"start": "02:13:54", "end": "02:13:59", "text": "So, anyways, Cleopatra knew that the"}, {"start": "02:13:56", "end": "02:14:00", "text": "Romans were on the doorstep of of Egypt."}, {"start": "02:13:59", "end": "02:14:03", "text": "And the only thing she could do is"}, {"start": "02:14:00", "end": "02:14:04", "text": "seduce the most powerful man in Rome cuz"}, {"start": "02:14:03", "end": "02:14:06", "text": "you got to keep in mind, Julius Caesar"}, {"start": "02:14:04", "end": "02:14:09", "text": "was never a Roman emperor. He was just a"}, {"start": "02:14:06", "end": "02:14:12", "text": "very wealthy warlord. And he controlled"}, {"start": "02:14:09", "end": "02:14:14", "text": "a vast portion of the Roman world. And"}, {"start": "02:14:12", "end": "02:14:18", "text": "so, she knew if I can get this guy"}, {"start": "02:14:14", "end": "02:14:21", "text": "on my side, I can pull him down here and"}, {"start": "02:14:18", "end": "02:14:23", "text": "we can be co-regents together and Egypt"}, {"start": "02:14:21", "end": "02:14:24", "text": "won't be conquered, right? It's Egypt"}, {"start": "02:14:23", "end": "02:14:27", "text": "will still have its autonomy. It'll just"}, {"start": "02:14:24", "end": "02:14:28", "text": "be fused with a new civilization. Or"}, {"start": "02:14:27", "end": "02:14:30", "text": "maybe she would"}, {"start": "02:14:28", "end": "02:14:31", "text": "maybe she was thinking that Julius"}, {"start": "02:14:30", "end": "02:14:33", "text": "Caesar would break off from the Romans"}, {"start": "02:14:31", "end": "02:14:34", "text": "altogether and bring all his men down"}, {"start": "02:14:33", "end": "02:14:35", "text": "there and he"}, {"start": "02:14:34", "end": "02:14:38", "text": ">> happening before"}, {"start": "02:14:35", "end": "02:14:40", "text": "Crassus and Pompey or after?"}, {"start": "02:14:38", "end": "02:14:43", "text": "During during Yeah, yeah. During"}, {"start": "02:14:40", "end": "02:14:46", "text": ">> During all of that. Yeah. So um"}, {"start": "02:14:43", "end": "02:14:48", "text": "So anyways, uh"}, {"start": "02:14:46", "end": "02:14:50", "text": "I think that Pompey has perhaps already"}, {"start": "02:14:48", "end": "02:14:53", "text": "died at this point and there are some"}, {"start": "02:14:50", "end": "02:14:55", "text": "people that Julius Caesar for for some"}, {"start": "02:14:53", "end": "02:14:57", "text": "reason for years I had thought that that"}, {"start": "02:14:55", "end": "02:15:00", "text": "Pompey was in Alexandria and to to"}, {"start": "02:14:57", "end": "02:15:01", "text": "prevent him from fleeing, Julius Caesar"}, {"start": "02:15:00", "end": "02:15:03", "text": "had the docks burned. But I think it was"}, {"start": "02:15:01", "end": "02:15:05", "text": "it was it was a"}, {"start": "02:15:03", "end": "02:15:06", "text": "part of his army, something like that."}, {"start": "02:15:05", "end": "02:15:08", "text": "Julius Caesar doesn't want this group of"}, {"start": "02:15:06", "end": "02:15:09", "text": "guys leaving so he burns the docks and"}, {"start": "02:15:08", "end": "02:15:11", "text": "and destroys their ships so that they"}, {"start": "02:15:09", "end": "02:15:12", "text": "can't even escape. So he's going to find"}, {"start": "02:15:11", "end": "02:15:14", "text": "them and kill them all. Well, when that"}, {"start": "02:15:12", "end": "02:15:15", "text": "happens,"}, {"start": "02:15:14", "end": "02:15:18", "text": "the you know, you can imagine like the"}, {"start": "02:15:15", "end": "02:15:19", "text": "docks connected by ropes and wood and"}, {"start": "02:15:18", "end": "02:15:21", "text": "you know, that the library itself is"}, {"start": "02:15:19", "end": "02:15:24", "text": "built out of stone but the floorboards"}, {"start": "02:15:21", "end": "02:15:27", "text": "are all made out of wood and the um"}, {"start": "02:15:24", "end": "02:15:29", "text": "so think about the uh imagine like a"}, {"start": "02:15:27", "end": "02:15:30", "text": "wine cellar, the little uh"}, {"start": "02:15:29", "end": "02:15:32", "text": "diamond slots that you put the wine"}, {"start": "02:15:30", "end": "02:15:34", "text": "bottles in. That's how the uh"}, {"start": "02:15:32", "end": "02:15:36", "text": "that's how the papyri were were stored"}, {"start": "02:15:34", "end": "02:15:39", "text": "and those were all made out of wood. So"}, {"start": "02:15:36", "end": "02:15:42", "text": "the interior of the library burns up but"}, {"start": "02:15:39", "end": "02:15:43", "text": "the stone architecture survives, right?"}, {"start": "02:15:42", "end": "02:15:46", "text": "And so a massive portion of the library"}, {"start": "02:15:43", "end": "02:15:47", "text": "is is destroyed. I don't know why"}, {"start": "02:15:46", "end": "02:15:50", "text": "you know, you hear a lot of story"}, {"start": "02:15:47", "end": "02:15:52", "text": "historians they they repeat the pop the"}, {"start": "02:15:50", "end": "02:15:54", "text": "popular like debunk that's like, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "02:15:52", "end": "02:15:56", "text": "it's not really that bad. The library"}, {"start": "02:15:54", "end": "02:15:57", "text": "had already been in decay.\""}, {"start": "02:15:56", "end": "02:15:59", "text": "Well, that's not really supported by the"}, {"start": "02:15:57", "end": "02:16:02", "text": "fact that it devastated Cleopatra so"}, {"start": "02:15:59", "end": "02:16:06", "text": "badly that Mark Antony feels compelled"}, {"start": "02:16:02", "end": "02:16:08", "text": "later on to gift her like 200,000 books"}, {"start": "02:16:06", "end": "02:16:11", "text": "back to the library. So that tells us"}, {"start": "02:16:08", "end": "02:16:13", "text": "that this was something that was so"}, {"start": "02:16:11", "end": "02:16:15", "text": "detrimental that it actually affected"}, {"start": "02:16:13", "end": "02:16:17", "text": "Cleopatra on an emotional level that"}, {"start": "02:16:15", "end": "02:16:18", "text": "Mark Antony had to make up for that"}, {"start": "02:16:17", "end": "02:16:18", "text": "later."}, {"start": "02:16:18", "end": "02:16:20", "text": "So,"}, {"start": "02:16:18", "end": "02:16:22", "text": ">> They may have made the library great"}, {"start": "02:16:20", "end": "02:16:23", "text": "again."}, {"start": "02:16:22", "end": "02:16:25", "text": "Yeah, I I I mean I'm I'm guessing so"}, {"start": "02:16:23", "end": "02:16:26", "text": "that that she invested she poured a"}, {"start": "02:16:25", "end": "02:16:29", "text": "whole bunch of money back into it cuz"}, {"start": "02:16:26", "end": "02:16:31", "text": "clearly she's very very well educated"}, {"start": "02:16:29", "end": "02:16:33", "text": "and must have spent a lot of time there."}, {"start": "02:16:31", "end": "02:16:33", "text": "And the lighthouse is still this beacon"}, {"start": "02:16:33", "end": "02:16:35", "text": "at the lighthouse"}, {"start": "02:16:33", "end": "02:16:36", "text": ">> is still there. The lighthouse gives"}, {"start": "02:16:35", "end": "02:16:38", "text": "this, man. The lighthouse is so well"}, {"start": "02:16:36", "end": "02:16:40", "text": "built"}, {"start": "02:16:38", "end": "02:16:41", "text": "that it was standing within just a few"}, {"start": "02:16:40", "end": "02:16:43", "text": "years of Columbus arriving in the"}, {"start": "02:16:41", "end": "02:16:44", "text": "Americas. It was still standing."}, {"start": "02:16:43", "end": "02:16:46", "text": ">> That's crazy."}, {"start": "02:16:44", "end": "02:16:47", "text": "I know a couple of earthquakes hit it"}, {"start": "02:16:46", "end": "02:16:47", "text": "pretty bad over the years. Yeah, and"}, {"start": "02:16:47", "end": "02:16:47", "text": "then"}, {"start": "02:16:47", "end": "02:16:49", "text": ">> [clears throat]"}, {"start": "02:16:47", "end": "02:16:51", "text": ">> and then they decided to tear it down to"}, {"start": "02:16:49", "end": "02:16:53", "text": "build to build a new uh I forget There's"}, {"start": "02:16:51", "end": "02:16:54", "text": "some citadel that's there today, but"}, {"start": "02:16:53", "end": "02:16:56", "text": "some of those blocks are still there."}, {"start": "02:16:54", "end": "02:16:57", "text": "And the blocks are still like laying in"}, {"start": "02:16:56", "end": "02:16:59", "text": "the water around that It was just"}, {"start": "02:16:57", "end": "02:17:02", "text": "tumbled and fallen into the water, but"}, {"start": "02:16:59", "end": "02:17:06", "text": "you can see these massive"}, {"start": "02:17:02", "end": "02:17:07", "text": "granite Aswan blocks laying there. Well,"}, {"start": "02:17:06", "end": "02:17:09", "text": "then give then give me or take, where's"}, {"start": "02:17:07", "end": "02:17:12", "text": "the body? Is it St. Mark's? Yeah, yeah."}, {"start": "02:17:09", "end": "02:17:14", "text": "So so So, I'm sorry. This is the most"}, {"start": "02:17:12", "end": "02:17:15", "text": "long-winded answer of all time. No, I"}, {"start": "02:17:14", "end": "02:17:16", "text": "love this stuff. [snorts]"}, {"start": "02:17:15", "end": "02:17:19", "text": ">> So, uh"}, {"start": "02:17:16", "end": "02:17:21", "text": "So, long story short,"}, {"start": "02:17:19", "end": "02:17:23", "text": "Julius Caesar is killed before he can"}, {"start": "02:17:21", "end": "02:17:25", "text": "move Rome's capital."}, {"start": "02:17:23", "end": "02:17:27", "text": "Uh Augustus"}, {"start": "02:17:25", "end": "02:17:30", "text": "is essentially becomes the son the"}, {"start": "02:17:27", "end": "02:17:34", "text": "adopted son of of Julius Caesar's"}, {"start": "02:17:30", "end": "02:17:35", "text": "empire. He wages war on on his rivals,"}, {"start": "02:17:34", "end": "02:17:37", "text": "kills them all,"}, {"start": "02:17:35", "end": "02:17:41", "text": "comes down to Alexandria,"}, {"start": "02:17:37", "end": "02:17:43", "text": "and basically Cleopatra and Mark Antony,"}, {"start": "02:17:41", "end": "02:17:45", "text": "they know that if they go back to Rome"}, {"start": "02:17:43", "end": "02:17:46", "text": "with Augustus, they're going to be"}, {"start": "02:17:45", "end": "02:17:47", "text": "paraded around and then they're going to"}, {"start": "02:17:46", "end": "02:17:49", "text": "be executed."}, {"start": "02:17:47", "end": "02:17:52", "text": ">> Mhm. So, they kill themselves. And"}, {"start": "02:17:49", "end": "02:17:55", "text": "Augustus, being actually a classy guy,"}, {"start": "02:17:52", "end": "02:17:56", "text": "um when he visits Alexander's tomb, he's"}, {"start": "02:17:55", "end": "02:17:58", "text": "respectful, very respectful of the tomb."}, {"start": "02:17:56", "end": "02:18:00", "text": "He looks up to Alexander, sees him as"}, {"start": "02:17:58", "end": "02:18:02", "text": "like this mythical hero. And he'll And"}, {"start": "02:18:00", "end": "02:18:04", "text": "he allows, as far as we know, he allows"}, {"start": "02:18:02", "end": "02:18:06", "text": "Cleopatra and Mark Antony to be buried"}, {"start": "02:18:04", "end": "02:18:08", "text": "where they wanted to be buried. Nobody's"}, {"start": "02:18:06", "end": "02:18:10", "text": "ever found found their bodies."}, {"start": "02:18:08", "end": "02:18:13", "text": "And he gave the Egyptians 1 year to"}, {"start": "02:18:10", "end": "02:18:16", "text": "mourn Cleopatra."}, {"start": "02:18:13", "end": "02:18:18", "text": "And most people won't realize this,"}, {"start": "02:18:16", "end": "02:18:19", "text": "Augustus just became pharaoh. It wasn't"}, {"start": "02:18:18", "end": "02:18:22", "text": "like the pharaohs ended. There's still"}, {"start": "02:18:19", "end": "02:18:22", "text": "another 325 years of pharaohs to go."}, {"start": "02:18:22", "end": "02:18:23", "text": "Right."}, {"start": "02:18:22", "end": "02:18:24", "text": ">> Like"}, {"start": "02:18:23", "end": "02:18:27", "text": "uh most people won't realize that's"}, {"start": "02:18:24", "end": "02:18:30", "text": "crazy. Uh most of the time we we look at"}, {"start": "02:18:27", "end": "02:18:33", "text": "Egypt's history from 3100 BC to 30 BC,"}, {"start": "02:18:30", "end": "02:18:34", "text": "but no, it goes on it keeps going on."}, {"start": "02:18:33", "end": "02:18:36", "text": "So, um"}, {"start": "02:18:34", "end": "02:18:36", "text": "But Augustus was a great politician"}, {"start": "02:18:36", "end": "02:18:38", "text": "because he would [clears throat] have"}, {"start": "02:18:36", "end": "02:18:40", "text": "had a revolt if he didn't allow that."}, {"start": "02:18:38", "end": "02:18:42", "text": "Exactly, [snorts] and he knew that. And"}, {"start": "02:18:40", "end": "02:18:43", "text": "he never calls himself emperor, he"}, {"start": "02:18:42", "end": "02:18:47", "text": "doesn't ever call himself king, he calls"}, {"start": "02:18:43", "end": "02:18:48", "text": "himself the first citizen. And um and"}, {"start": "02:18:47", "end": "02:18:50", "text": "he's one of the few emperors that gets"}, {"start": "02:18:48", "end": "02:18:51", "text": "to live a full life. He dies of old age"}, {"start": "02:18:50", "end": "02:18:54", "text": "and and uh"}, {"start": "02:18:51", "end": "02:18:59", "text": "yeah, just a cunning,"}, {"start": "02:18:54", "end": "02:19:01", "text": "merciless, but smart and respectful guy."}, {"start": "02:18:59", "end": "02:19:02", "text": "Really interesting story. Um"}, {"start": "02:19:01", "end": "02:19:05", "text": "So,"}, {"start": "02:19:02", "end": "02:19:06", "text": "Alexandria continue continues on from"}, {"start": "02:19:05", "end": "02:19:08", "text": "there. Mostly business as usual. Like"}, {"start": "02:19:06", "end": "02:19:12", "text": "the average guy, his life is like, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "02:19:08", "end": "02:19:15", "text": "wow. That was dramatic. Right. Back to,"}, {"start": "02:19:12", "end": "02:19:16", "text": "you know, back back to work.\" And um so,"}, {"start": "02:19:15", "end": "02:19:17", "text": ">> Is the body of Alexander still there?"}, {"start": "02:19:16", "end": "02:19:19", "text": "The lighthouse is still there? Yeah,"}, {"start": "02:19:17", "end": "02:19:21", "text": "[clears throat] so So, when when"}, {"start": "02:19:19", "end": "02:19:24", "text": "Augustus invaded, he burned down"}, {"start": "02:19:21", "end": "02:19:25", "text": "Alexandria's library. Uh"}, {"start": "02:19:24", "end": "02:19:29", "text": "part of it. We don't know, you know, to"}, {"start": "02:19:25", "end": "02:19:31", "text": "how how much. Uh Caracalla,"}, {"start": "02:19:29", "end": "02:19:33", "text": "there are all these Alexandrians that"}, {"start": "02:19:31", "end": "02:19:36", "text": "are telling these jokes about Caracalla"}, {"start": "02:19:33", "end": "02:19:37", "text": "um in the theater in in town and, you"}, {"start": "02:19:36", "end": "02:19:39", "text": "know, making all these jokes at his"}, {"start": "02:19:37", "end": "02:19:41", "text": "expense or whatever. Well, he pays"}, {"start": "02:19:39", "end": "02:19:43", "text": "Alexandria a royal visit and lines up"}, {"start": "02:19:41", "end": "02:19:46", "text": "25,000 people and slaughters them and"}, {"start": "02:19:43", "end": "02:19:47", "text": "burns down and burns down the palisades."}, {"start": "02:19:46", "end": "02:19:50", "text": "Now, the palisades are connected"}, {"start": "02:19:47", "end": "02:19:52", "text": "directly to the library. So, the library"}, {"start": "02:19:50", "end": "02:19:53", "text": "gets gets damaged during this time."}, {"start": "02:19:52", "end": "02:19:57", "text": "Caracalla doesn't care."}, {"start": "02:19:53", "end": "02:19:59", "text": "Uh Aurelian has to come and squash a uh"}, {"start": "02:19:57", "end": "02:20:00", "text": "this isn't Marcus Aurelius, this is"}, {"start": "02:19:59", "end": "02:20:02", "text": "Aurelian."}, {"start": "02:20:00", "end": "02:20:03", "text": ">> He has to come and squash a revolt where"}, {"start": "02:20:02", "end": "02:20:06", "text": "an Egyptian rises up and declares"}, {"start": "02:20:03", "end": "02:20:08", "text": "himself pharaoh of Egypt. And and"}, {"start": "02:20:06", "end": "02:20:10", "text": "there's also also another attack."}, {"start": "02:20:08", "end": "02:20:12", "text": "There's a there's an eastern"}, {"start": "02:20:10", "end": "02:20:14", "text": "empire that rises up, but I can't think"}, {"start": "02:20:12", "end": "02:20:15", "text": "of the name I can't think of the name of"}, {"start": "02:20:14", "end": "02:20:18", "text": "it, but there's another two battles that"}, {"start": "02:20:15", "end": "02:20:19", "text": "take place in Alexandria and they and"}, {"start": "02:20:18", "end": "02:20:20", "text": "they reference again the palisades"}, {"start": "02:20:19", "end": "02:20:22", "text": "burned down."}, {"start": "02:20:20", "end": "02:20:24", "text": "Palisades are connected to the library,"}, {"start": "02:20:22", "end": "02:20:26", "text": "so the library gets affected."}, {"start": "02:20:24", "end": "02:20:28", "text": "Then"}, {"start": "02:20:26", "end": "02:20:31", "text": "in 365 AD"}, {"start": "02:20:28", "end": "02:20:33", "text": "there is a massive tsunami off the coast"}, {"start": "02:20:31", "end": "02:20:36", "text": "of Crete or Cyprus."}, {"start": "02:20:33", "end": "02:20:38", "text": "And it's so enormous"}, {"start": "02:20:36", "end": "02:20:40", "text": "that by the time like the seismic"}, {"start": "02:20:38", "end": "02:20:43", "text": "activity reaches Alexandria and the"}, {"start": "02:20:40", "end": "02:20:45", "text": "waves hit Alexandria"}, {"start": "02:20:43", "end": "02:20:48", "text": "the devastation was so dramatic that all"}, {"start": "02:20:45", "end": "02:20:49", "text": "of the boats in the docks had crashed"}, {"start": "02:20:48", "end": "02:20:52", "text": "onto"}, {"start": "02:20:49", "end": "02:20:54", "text": "the roofs and of the ruins of the"}, {"start": "02:20:52", "end": "02:20:56", "text": "toppled cities of Alexandria. There was"}, {"start": "02:20:54", "end": "02:20:58", "text": "another historian that arrived another"}, {"start": "02:20:56", "end": "02:21:00", "text": "name that you would you and I would"}, {"start": "02:20:58", "end": "02:21:05", "text": "recognize and he arrived and and he"}, {"start": "02:21:00", "end": "02:21:06", "text": "reports that there were 50,000 people"}, {"start": "02:21:05", "end": "02:21:09", "text": "that he knew of from the city that were"}, {"start": "02:21:06", "end": "02:21:12", "text": "missing that were that were, you know,"}, {"start": "02:21:09", "end": "02:21:14", "text": "that had gone unreported people looking"}, {"start": "02:21:12", "end": "02:21:15", "text": "for the bodies of these people"}, {"start": "02:21:14", "end": "02:21:17", "text": "throughout the city."}, {"start": "02:21:15", "end": "02:21:20", "text": "And the city is completely demolished,"}, {"start": "02:21:17", "end": "02:21:23", "text": "completely devastated. The waves came up"}, {"start": "02:21:20", "end": "02:21:25", "text": "and crashed over the walls that"}, {"start": "02:21:23", "end": "02:21:27", "text": "surrounded the city and toppled"}, {"start": "02:21:25", "end": "02:21:29", "text": "everything. And it's from that exact"}, {"start": "02:21:27", "end": "02:21:32", "text": "moment, that day in the historical time"}, {"start": "02:21:29", "end": "02:21:34", "text": "period that we do not know where I"}, {"start": "02:21:32", "end": "02:21:36", "text": "believe we don't know where the library"}, {"start": "02:21:34", "end": "02:21:38", "text": "is anymore. We don't know where the"}, {"start": "02:21:36", "end": "02:21:40", "text": "museum is anymore. We don't know where"}, {"start": "02:21:38", "end": "02:21:44", "text": "the mausoleum is anymore and with his"}, {"start": "02:21:40", "end": "02:21:46", "text": "body it's gone. And myself and uh"}, {"start": "02:21:44", "end": "02:21:47", "text": "and Told in Stone we were talking about"}, {"start": "02:21:46", "end": "02:21:50", "text": "this while we were while we were in"}, {"start": "02:21:47", "end": "02:21:53", "text": "Alexandria and we were thinking"}, {"start": "02:21:50", "end": "02:21:55", "text": "probably during that time period"}, {"start": "02:21:53", "end": "02:21:57", "text": "there were people so his his mausoleum"}, {"start": "02:21:55", "end": "02:21:59", "text": "is underground. Well, probably you know"}, {"start": "02:21:57", "end": "02:22:02", "text": "that water floods in and just like when"}, {"start": "02:21:59", "end": "02:22:05", "text": "that when that when his body in his"}, {"start": "02:22:02", "end": "02:22:07", "text": "crappy alabaster sarcophagus he's left"}, {"start": "02:22:05", "end": "02:22:07", "text": "with. Thank you Ptolemy X. Uh"}, {"start": "02:22:07", "end": "02:22:09", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "02:22:07", "end": "02:22:11", "text": ">> when that gets flooded with that with"}, {"start": "02:22:09", "end": "02:22:12", "text": "that salty water I think it's the salt"}, {"start": "02:22:11", "end": "02:22:14", "text": "water or is it fresh water? But when it"}, {"start": "02:22:12", "end": "02:22:16", "text": "gets flooded his body just"}, {"start": "02:22:14", "end": "02:22:17", "text": "turned into just mist, you know, it's"}, {"start": "02:22:16", "end": "02:22:18", "text": "turned into nothing."}, {"start": "02:22:17", "end": "02:22:19", "text": ">> All those bodies."}, {"start": "02:22:18", "end": "02:22:22", "text": ">> All those bodies just turn all those"}, {"start": "02:22:19", "end": "02:22:24", "text": "bodies just turn into nothing. And think"}, {"start": "02:22:22", "end": "02:22:25", "text": "about the chaos that had broken out"}, {"start": "02:22:24", "end": "02:22:27", "text": "throughout the last centuries of all the"}, {"start": "02:22:25", "end": "02:22:28", "text": "things we talked about this war, this"}, {"start": "02:22:27", "end": "02:22:31", "text": "that and the other. Well, how many"}, {"start": "02:22:28", "end": "02:22:32", "text": "17-year-old kids do you do you know that"}, {"start": "02:22:31", "end": "02:22:34", "text": "were like I bet you there's not any"}, {"start": "02:22:32", "end": "02:22:35", "text": "guards at the mausoleum."}, {"start": "02:22:34", "end": "02:22:37", "text": "Let's go. Of course."}, {"start": "02:22:35", "end": "02:22:39", "text": ">> So, little by little it gets picked away"}, {"start": "02:22:37", "end": "02:22:41", "text": "and picked away and picked away and"}, {"start": "02:22:39", "end": "02:22:44", "text": "picked away. And then when that city is"}, {"start": "02:22:41", "end": "02:22:46", "text": "destroyed all the blocks from his"}, {"start": "02:22:44", "end": "02:22:49", "text": "mausoleum and and all of the you know,"}, {"start": "02:22:46", "end": "02:22:52", "text": "glorious Alexandrian architecture uh"}, {"start": "02:22:49", "end": "02:22:54", "text": "that that um Augustus used to model Rome"}, {"start": "02:22:52", "end": "02:22:56", "text": "by the way. The the whole model of Rome"}, {"start": "02:22:54", "end": "02:22:58", "text": "is pulled from Alexandrian architecture"}, {"start": "02:22:56", "end": "02:23:00", "text": "and Greek architecture. But those"}, {"start": "02:22:58", "end": "02:23:02", "text": "projects didn't begin until Augustus"}, {"start": "02:23:00", "end": "02:23:03", "text": "went back home uh when he got back home"}, {"start": "02:23:02", "end": "02:23:05", "text": "from from Alexandria. And one of the"}, {"start": "02:23:03", "end": "02:23:08", "text": "last things he says is"}, {"start": "02:23:05", "end": "02:23:09", "text": "I when I was born I found the city a"}, {"start": "02:23:08", "end": "02:23:13", "text": "city of mud brick I leave it a city of"}, {"start": "02:23:09", "end": "02:23:13", "text": "marble. And um and he uh What a great"}, {"start": "02:23:13", "end": "02:23:15", "text": "line."}, {"start": "02:23:13", "end": "02:23:17", "text": ">> He thinks a lot of historians think that"}, {"start": "02:23:15", "end": "02:23:18", "text": "he was inspired by what he saw in"}, {"start": "02:23:17", "end": "02:23:19", "text": "Alexandria and that's why he starts the"}, {"start": "02:23:18", "end": "02:23:21", "text": "building projects as soon as he gets"}, {"start": "02:23:19", "end": "02:23:24", "text": "home. Um"}, {"start": "02:23:21", "end": "02:23:26", "text": "but I think that most likely his body"}, {"start": "02:23:24", "end": "02:23:27", "text": "was pulverized by the Mediterranean and"}, {"start": "02:23:26", "end": "02:23:29", "text": "doesn't exist anymore. That's what I"}, {"start": "02:23:27", "end": "02:23:31", "text": "think."}, {"start": "02:23:29", "end": "02:23:33", "text": "Okay. Yeah, I I there may be some other"}, {"start": "02:23:31", "end": "02:23:34", "text": "some other ideas to the story like like"}, {"start": "02:23:33", "end": "02:23:37", "text": "There's a lot of theories that it's in"}, {"start": "02:23:34", "end": "02:23:39", "text": "St. Mark's that it's in um"}, {"start": "02:23:37", "end": "02:23:43", "text": "What is the uh the Daniel Mosque that's"}, {"start": "02:23:39", "end": "02:23:46", "text": "there? Is that theory? Yeah, I I've um"}, {"start": "02:23:43", "end": "02:23:48", "text": "I haven't looked into that in in years"}, {"start": "02:23:46", "end": "02:23:50", "text": "the the other theories but I think that"}, {"start": "02:23:48", "end": "02:23:52", "text": "the main thing that"}, {"start": "02:23:50", "end": "02:23:54", "text": "you have to grasp with is is the"}, {"start": "02:23:52", "end": "02:23:56", "text": "flooding of the city, you know, because"}, {"start": "02:23:54", "end": "02:23:58", "text": "it's isn't it is like several hundred"}, {"start": "02:23:56", "end": "02:24:00", "text": "years later when Christianity is much"}, {"start": "02:23:58", "end": "02:24:02", "text": "more widespread that you hear about the"}, {"start": "02:24:00", "end": "02:24:05", "text": "supposed place of Alexander's body"}, {"start": "02:24:02", "end": "02:24:07", "text": "again, but you you have to you have to"}, {"start": "02:24:05", "end": "02:24:09", "text": "grapple with"}, {"start": "02:24:07", "end": "02:24:10", "text": "Well, what happened"}, {"start": "02:24:09", "end": "02:24:12", "text": "when Alexandria was flooded and the"}, {"start": "02:24:10", "end": "02:24:13", "text": "whole city is destroyed, you know?"}, {"start": "02:24:12", "end": "02:24:15", "text": ">> I'm with you. I think I don't think"}, {"start": "02:24:13", "end": "02:24:16", "text": "anything survives that. Yeah."}, {"start": "02:24:15", "end": "02:24:18", "text": ">> You know, boats on the roofs are crazy."}, {"start": "02:24:16", "end": "02:24:21", "text": "I mean, you're talking 30, 40-ft waves."}, {"start": "02:24:18", "end": "02:24:23", "text": "Mhm. Yeah, boats landing on the roof,"}, {"start": "02:24:21", "end": "02:24:25", "text": "you know, it's it's wild that the that"}, {"start": "02:24:23", "end": "02:24:27", "text": "the lighthouse even survived that, but"}, {"start": "02:24:25", "end": "02:24:29", "text": "it shows you how well-built that thing"}, {"start": "02:24:27", "end": "02:24:29", "text": "really was, you know?"}, {"start": "02:24:29", "end": "02:24:30", "text": ">> Crazy."}, {"start": "02:24:29", "end": "02:24:33", "text": ">> a"}, {"start": "02:24:30", "end": "02:24:35", "text": "quick break and come back and talk about"}, {"start": "02:24:33", "end": "02:24:38", "text": ">> We got a lot to talk about still. We got"}, {"start": "02:24:35", "end": "02:24:40", "text": "to talk about where jaguars and we have"}, {"start": "02:24:38", "end": "02:24:41", "text": "to get to the Minoan culture somehow."}, {"start": "02:24:40", "end": "02:24:42", "text": "Let's do it."}, {"start": "02:24:41", "end": "02:24:45", "text": ">> Back in a minute."}, {"start": "02:24:42", "end": "02:24:48", "text": "I want to hear about the Olmecs and"}, {"start": "02:24:45", "end": "02:24:52", "text": "solve for me how those giant"}, {"start": "02:24:48", "end": "02:24:54", "text": "10, 20-ton heads get moved down a river"}, {"start": "02:24:52", "end": "02:24:57", "text": "on a raft."}, {"start": "02:24:54", "end": "02:25:00", "text": "Man. I wish I could solve that. I'd be I"}, {"start": "02:24:57", "end": "02:25:00", "text": "mean, is there a solve for that?"}, {"start": "02:25:01", "end": "02:25:03", "text": "Somewhere. If you were to ask an ancient"}, {"start": "02:25:02", "end": "02:25:05", "text": "Olmec how it was done, I'm sure that"}, {"start": "02:25:03", "end": "02:25:09", "text": "they they could explain it."}, {"start": "02:25:05", "end": "02:25:11", "text": ">> Yeah. Um so, the Olmecs man, they're"}, {"start": "02:25:09", "end": "02:25:13", "text": "uh they're one of my favorite ancient"}, {"start": "02:25:11", "end": "02:25:15", "text": "civilizations."}, {"start": "02:25:13", "end": "02:25:15", "text": "Why?"}, {"start": "02:25:15", "end": "02:25:17", "text": ">> [clears throat]"}, {"start": "02:25:15", "end": "02:25:19", "text": ">> They're They're"}, {"start": "02:25:17", "end": "02:25:22", "text": "Well, they're they're the oldest known"}, {"start": "02:25:19", "end": "02:25:24", "text": "civilization in North America."}, {"start": "02:25:22", "end": "02:25:26", "text": "And um"}, {"start": "02:25:24", "end": "02:25:29", "text": "and actually, the very first ancient"}, {"start": "02:25:26", "end": "02:25:31", "text": "monument that I ever saw that wasn't in"}, {"start": "02:25:29", "end": "02:25:33", "text": "the United States was an Olmec head. If"}, {"start": "02:25:31", "end": "02:25:34", "text": "you look up the uh it's actually at the"}, {"start": "02:25:33", "end": "02:25:36", "text": "bottom right of the screen right here."}, {"start": "02:25:34", "end": "02:25:37", "text": "The uh the second one the one that's"}, {"start": "02:25:36", "end": "02:25:40", "text": "just to the left of that. That guy right"}, {"start": "02:25:37", "end": "02:25:41", "text": "there. That's the main head at La Venta."}, {"start": "02:25:40", "end": "02:25:43", "text": "And Dr. [snorts] Barnhart and I are"}, {"start": "02:25:41", "end": "02:25:45", "text": "walking around the uh city of"}, {"start": "02:25:43", "end": "02:25:47", "text": "Villahermosa and we're walking on the"}, {"start": "02:25:45", "end": "02:25:48", "text": "outside of this park"}, {"start": "02:25:47", "end": "02:25:49", "text": "and there's this opening where you can"}, {"start": "02:25:48", "end": "02:25:51", "text": "see into the park and we're talking"}, {"start": "02:25:49", "end": "02:25:54", "text": "about the Olmecs and and and he's saying"}, {"start": "02:25:51", "end": "02:25:55", "text": "he's I'm I'm looking at him to the right"}, {"start": "02:25:54", "end": "02:25:56", "text": "and there's this lake next to us in the"}, {"start": "02:25:55", "end": "02:25:58", "text": "park is right here and Dr. Barnhart"}, {"start": "02:25:56", "end": "02:26:00", "text": "goes, \"Look.\" And I look right in and"}, {"start": "02:25:58", "end": "02:26:01", "text": "the very first ancient monument I ever"}, {"start": "02:26:00", "end": "02:26:03", "text": "saw outside of the United States was"}, {"start": "02:26:01", "end": "02:26:06", "text": "that guy right there. And from that"}, {"start": "02:26:03", "end": "02:26:08", "text": "moment that civilization I I saw the"}, {"start": "02:26:06", "end": "02:26:11", "text": "size of the heads I saw the size of that"}, {"start": "02:26:08", "end": "02:26:13", "text": "head and you know, it was like a silent"}, {"start": "02:26:11", "end": "02:26:14", "text": "witness to time. How big is that head?"}, {"start": "02:26:13", "end": "02:26:15", "text": "You can't really tell from the picture."}, {"start": "02:26:14", "end": "02:26:17", "text": ">> Oh, enormous. I mean,"}, {"start": "02:26:15", "end": "02:26:20", "text": ">> 12 ft high? My my head probably comes up"}, {"start": "02:26:17", "end": "02:26:22", "text": "to that ridge where the helmet is. Like"}, {"start": "02:26:20", "end": "02:26:23", "text": "just above his eyes. That's probably"}, {"start": "02:26:22", "end": "02:26:26", "text": "I'm I'm probably like at eye level with"}, {"start": "02:26:23", "end": "02:26:28", "text": "that. And um"}, {"start": "02:26:26", "end": "02:26:31", "text": "that guy there probably weighs 15 20"}, {"start": "02:26:28", "end": "02:26:32", "text": "tons or so and it's solid gray like"}, {"start": "02:26:31", "end": "02:26:33", "text": "basalt."}, {"start": "02:26:32", "end": "02:26:36", "text": "It comes from the Sierra de los Tuxtlas"}, {"start": "02:26:33", "end": "02:26:38", "text": "volcanic belt. It's probably like 90 km"}, {"start": "02:26:36", "end": "02:26:40", "text": "away as the crow flies. But it's not"}, {"start": "02:26:38", "end": "02:26:40", "text": "like moving something through Egypt"}, {"start": "02:26:40", "end": "02:26:42", "text": "where all you got to do is you got to"}, {"start": "02:26:40", "end": "02:26:46", "text": "get on the river while the while the"}, {"start": "02:26:42", "end": "02:26:47", "text": "tide is high and and and float that baby"}, {"start": "02:26:46", "end": "02:26:49", "text": "down the river."}, {"start": "02:26:47", "end": "02:26:52", "text": "These guys have to go through rivers and"}, {"start": "02:26:49", "end": "02:26:54", "text": "swamps and valleys and you know, over"}, {"start": "02:26:52", "end": "02:26:56", "text": "hills to get to the next river. It's"}, {"start": "02:26:54", "end": "02:26:58", "text": "just I mean, it's crazy."}, {"start": "02:26:56", "end": "02:27:01", "text": "Um but the Olmecs"}, {"start": "02:26:58", "end": "02:27:03", "text": "they emerge on the archaeological"}, {"start": "02:27:01", "end": "02:27:05", "text": "timeline as a fully fledged and"}, {"start": "02:27:03", "end": "02:27:08", "text": "organized civilization."}, {"start": "02:27:05", "end": "02:27:13", "text": "From the very beginning the civilization"}, {"start": "02:27:08", "end": "02:27:15", "text": "is formed. We don't have like a um"}, {"start": "02:27:13", "end": "02:27:17", "text": "we don't have a a a formation period."}, {"start": "02:27:15", "end": "02:27:19", "text": "That's very strange. I know all the"}, {"start": "02:27:17", "end": "02:27:20", "text": "ancient astronaut people are going nuts"}, {"start": "02:27:19", "end": "02:27:21", "text": "right now. [snorts] Oh, they are. Well,"}, {"start": "02:27:20", "end": "02:27:22", "text": "It's one of those civilizations"}, {"start": "02:27:21", "end": "02:27:24", "text": "[clears throat] that just appears."}, {"start": "02:27:22", "end": "02:27:26", "text": ">> And and you know, this thing gets"}, {"start": "02:27:24", "end": "02:27:28", "text": "this thing gets thrown that that idea"}, {"start": "02:27:26", "end": "02:27:30", "text": "gets thrown towards ancient Egypt a lot."}, {"start": "02:27:28", "end": "02:27:33", "text": "But in reality that that's actually not"}, {"start": "02:27:30", "end": "02:27:38", "text": "the case. I mean, if the pyramids are"}, {"start": "02:27:33", "end": "02:27:41", "text": "around 24 25 2600 BC, well, we have"}, {"start": "02:27:38", "end": "02:27:42", "text": "about 800 years of known history leading"}, {"start": "02:27:41", "end": "02:27:45", "text": "up to that point."}, {"start": "02:27:42", "end": "02:27:47", "text": "Now, the technology kind of just appears"}, {"start": "02:27:45", "end": "02:27:49", "text": "out of nowhere, but the civilization is"}, {"start": "02:27:47", "end": "02:27:50", "text": "there. They're forming for a long time."}, {"start": "02:27:49", "end": "02:27:52", "text": "Yep. We don't have any evidence of"}, {"start": "02:27:50", "end": "02:27:55", "text": "anything that's in any sort of formative"}, {"start": "02:27:52", "end": "02:27:57", "text": "period at all whatsoever before these"}, {"start": "02:27:55", "end": "02:27:59", "text": "heads arrive. Where where was the center"}, {"start": "02:27:57", "end": "02:28:02", "text": "of the Olmec society?"}, {"start": "02:27:59", "end": "02:28:03", "text": "Uh that like that"}, {"start": "02:28:02", "end": "02:28:05", "text": "It's weird how Mexico is broken up"}, {"start": "02:28:03", "end": "02:28:07", "text": "because southern Mexico is actually like"}, {"start": "02:28:05", "end": "02:28:09", "text": "in the east and you know, it's Mexico is"}, {"start": "02:28:07", "end": "02:28:13", "text": "a weirdly shaped country, but uh south"}, {"start": "02:28:09", "end": "02:28:16", "text": "central Mexico like Veracruz and Tabasco"}, {"start": "02:28:13", "end": "02:28:18", "text": "and a little bit of Oaxaca. Um so, you"}, {"start": "02:28:16", "end": "02:28:20", "text": "know, kind of where Mexico comes down"}, {"start": "02:28:18", "end": "02:28:25", "text": "and it gets thin at this point, right"}, {"start": "02:28:20", "end": "02:28:27", "text": "there. Um so, this it's like this swampy"}, {"start": "02:28:25", "end": "02:28:30", "text": "hot, humid"}, {"start": "02:28:27", "end": "02:28:32", "text": "flat area. It's It's not the most"}, {"start": "02:28:30", "end": "02:28:33", "text": "appealing place to live with which is"}, {"start": "02:28:32", "end": "02:28:35", "text": "funny because that's actually the place"}, {"start": "02:28:33", "end": "02:28:37", "text": "where most civilizations form. It's like"}, {"start": "02:28:35", "end": "02:28:38", "text": "the least likely place, but when you"}, {"start": "02:28:37", "end": "02:28:40", "text": "think about it, it makes sense."}, {"start": "02:28:38", "end": "02:28:41", "text": "Isolation"}, {"start": "02:28:40", "end": "02:28:43", "text": "there's nobody that's vying for their"}, {"start": "02:28:41", "end": "02:28:44", "text": "land. There's nobody that's going to try"}, {"start": "02:28:43", "end": "02:28:45", "text": "to come kill them for their land for"}, {"start": "02:28:44", "end": "02:28:48", "text": "their lands. So, they get to live in"}, {"start": "02:28:45", "end": "02:28:49", "text": "this quiet, isolated existence and build"}, {"start": "02:28:48", "end": "02:28:51", "text": "and build and build and build and build"}, {"start": "02:28:49", "end": "02:28:52", "text": "their wealth until boom, you know, they"}, {"start": "02:28:51", "end": "02:28:56", "text": "have arrived."}, {"start": "02:28:52", "end": "02:28:57", "text": "But, they arrive at about 2000 BC"}, {"start": "02:28:56", "end": "02:28:59", "text": "and we don't have anything before that."}, {"start": "02:28:57", "end": "02:29:01", "text": "I mean, we don't have like bodies, we"}, {"start": "02:28:59", "end": "02:29:02", "text": "don't have sites."}, {"start": "02:29:01", "end": "02:29:04", "text": "We don't have archaeology, pottery."}, {"start": "02:29:02", "end": "02:29:06", "text": "We've got nothing before that. They just"}, {"start": "02:29:04", "end": "02:29:08", "text": "boom, they're there. And then they just"}, {"start": "02:29:06", "end": "02:29:09", "text": "disappear just as quickly?"}, {"start": "02:29:08", "end": "02:29:11", "text": "So,"}, {"start": "02:29:09", "end": "02:29:14", "text": "they they [clears throat] increase in"}, {"start": "02:29:11", "end": "02:29:17", "text": "power, we think from um"}, {"start": "02:29:14", "end": "02:29:19", "text": "from 2000 BC and then somewhere between"}, {"start": "02:29:17", "end": "02:29:21", "text": "about 1600"}, {"start": "02:29:19", "end": "02:29:23", "text": "to 900 BC is like the peak of their"}, {"start": "02:29:21", "end": "02:29:24", "text": "power. They they uh"}, {"start": "02:29:23", "end": "02:29:26", "text": "We don't but we don't know if they're"}, {"start": "02:29:24", "end": "02:29:27", "text": "city-states, we don't know if they are"}, {"start": "02:29:26", "end": "02:29:30", "text": "an empire, we don't know if they're"}, {"start": "02:29:27", "end": "02:29:33", "text": "clusters of kingdoms. We have no idea."}, {"start": "02:29:30", "end": "02:29:35", "text": "We just know that they had let's call it"}, {"start": "02:29:33", "end": "02:29:37", "text": "like a dozen sites. Three major sites,"}, {"start": "02:29:35", "end": "02:29:38", "text": "but in all probably about a dozen sites."}, {"start": "02:29:37", "end": "02:29:40", "text": "But we don't even know what they call"}, {"start": "02:29:38", "end": "02:29:41", "text": "themselves, right? We have no idea what"}, {"start": "02:29:40", "end": "02:29:44", "text": "they call themselves. We don't know what"}, {"start": "02:29:41", "end": "02:29:45", "text": "language they spoke. So when the Aztecs"}, {"start": "02:29:44", "end": "02:29:47", "text": "found those sites, were they already"}, {"start": "02:29:45", "end": "02:29:49", "text": "ancient? So the Aztec Well, we don't"}, {"start": "02:29:47", "end": "02:29:51", "text": "know that the Aztecs ever found the"}, {"start": "02:29:49", "end": "02:29:53", "text": "sites. They"}, {"start": "02:29:51", "end": "02:29:55", "text": "they found"}, {"start": "02:29:53", "end": "02:29:57", "text": "We know that the Aztecs had had"}, {"start": "02:29:55", "end": "02:29:58", "text": "artifacts that come from the Olmec"}, {"start": "02:29:57", "end": "02:30:00", "text": "world. Like"}, {"start": "02:29:58", "end": "02:30:02", "text": "you have these Olmec jade little"}, {"start": "02:30:00", "end": "02:30:03", "text": "pendants that we think would have been"}, {"start": "02:30:02", "end": "02:30:06", "text": "worn as like a necklace around the"}, {"start": "02:30:03", "end": "02:30:08", "text": "chest. That's the idea. Um the Aztecs"}, {"start": "02:30:06", "end": "02:30:10", "text": "had those. We found those in"}, {"start": "02:30:08", "end": "02:30:12", "text": "Tenochtitlan, but we don't know at all"}, {"start": "02:30:10", "end": "02:30:14", "text": "that the Aztecs"}, {"start": "02:30:12", "end": "02:30:17", "text": "actually found these Olmec sites. It's"}, {"start": "02:30:14", "end": "02:30:20", "text": "very possible because there are some uh"}, {"start": "02:30:17", "end": "02:30:22", "text": "So the the the first Olmec the may first"}, {"start": "02:30:20", "end": "02:30:24", "text": "major Olmec uh cultural center that"}, {"start": "02:30:22", "end": "02:30:26", "text": "rises up is called San Lorenzo."}, {"start": "02:30:24", "end": "02:30:28", "text": "The full name of it is San Lorenzo"}, {"start": "02:30:26", "end": "02:30:30", "text": "Tenochtitlan because"}, {"start": "02:30:28", "end": "02:30:31", "text": "way out in these fields"}, {"start": "02:30:30", "end": "02:30:33", "text": "um"}, {"start": "02:30:31", "end": "02:30:34", "text": "So like way out here in this field,"}, {"start": "02:30:33", "end": "02:30:37", "text": "there's this"}, {"start": "02:30:34", "end": "02:30:39", "text": "the ancient city the ancient Olmec city."}, {"start": "02:30:37", "end": "02:30:41", "text": "And then like a 15-minute drive away,"}, {"start": "02:30:39", "end": "02:30:43", "text": "there's this modern Mexican city called"}, {"start": "02:30:41", "end": "02:30:45", "text": "San Lorenzo Tenochtitlan that's built in"}, {"start": "02:30:43", "end": "02:30:46", "text": "the ruins of the Aztec city. So they're"}, {"start": "02:30:45", "end": "02:30:48", "text": "not that far apart from each other."}, {"start": "02:30:46", "end": "02:30:50", "text": "Right. But we just don't know if the"}, {"start": "02:30:48", "end": "02:30:52", "text": "Aztecs knew that the origins of"}, {"start": "02:30:50", "end": "02:30:53", "text": "Mesoamerica itself was like"}, {"start": "02:30:52", "end": "02:30:55", "text": "you know"}, {"start": "02:30:53", "end": "02:30:58", "text": "I don't know an hour walk away out in"}, {"start": "02:30:55", "end": "02:30:59", "text": "the out in the out into the bush because"}, {"start": "02:30:58", "end": "02:31:01", "text": "it would have all probably been grown"}, {"start": "02:30:59", "end": "02:31:02", "text": "over and forgotten."}, {"start": "02:31:01", "end": "02:31:03", "text": "So"}, {"start": "02:31:02", "end": "02:31:04", "text": "and [clears throat] you have to keep in"}, {"start": "02:31:03", "end": "02:31:08", "text": "mind the Aztecs the height of their"}, {"start": "02:31:04", "end": "02:31:11", "text": "their empire is 3,000 years later."}, {"start": "02:31:08", "end": "02:31:13", "text": "So Wow. it's possible that the Aztecs"}, {"start": "02:31:11", "end": "02:31:15", "text": "never knew that the Olmecs had ever"}, {"start": "02:31:13", "end": "02:31:17", "text": "existed or known anything about them at"}, {"start": "02:31:15", "end": "02:31:19", "text": "all. It's possible."}, {"start": "02:31:17", "end": "02:31:21", "text": "Uh one of the interesting things is that"}, {"start": "02:31:19", "end": "02:31:23", "text": "we know that the Aztecs found the city"}, {"start": "02:31:21", "end": "02:31:25", "text": "of Teotihuacan. Um and that Teotihuacan"}, {"start": "02:31:23", "end": "02:31:28", "text": "had been abandoned for about a thousand"}, {"start": "02:31:25", "end": "02:31:29", "text": "years at this point. And uh and they"}, {"start": "02:31:28", "end": "02:31:32", "text": "thought that it was the the city of the"}, {"start": "02:31:29", "end": "02:31:33", "text": "birthplace of the gods, you know. So,"}, {"start": "02:31:32", "end": "02:31:35", "text": "yeah, it's crazy how much stuff gets"}, {"start": "02:31:33", "end": "02:31:37", "text": "like abandoned and forgotten in"}, {"start": "02:31:35", "end": "02:31:38", "text": "Mesoamerica and rediscovered later. And"}, {"start": "02:31:37", "end": "02:31:40", "text": "in the history and the density of"}, {"start": "02:31:38", "end": "02:31:43", "text": "Mesoamerica is unlike anywhere else in"}, {"start": "02:31:40", "end": "02:31:45", "text": "the ancient world. It is"}, {"start": "02:31:43", "end": "02:31:48", "text": "vast and dense. There's nowhere in"}, {"start": "02:31:45", "end": "02:31:49", "text": "Mesoamerica that that was that went"}, {"start": "02:31:48", "end": "02:31:52", "text": "uninhabited. But, again, the Olmecs are"}, {"start": "02:31:49", "end": "02:31:53", "text": "the origins of that whole world."}, {"start": "02:31:52", "end": "02:31:54", "text": "But, the interesting thing about the"}, {"start": "02:31:53", "end": "02:31:56", "text": "Olmecs is"}, {"start": "02:31:54", "end": "02:31:58", "text": "you look through all the Mesoamerican"}, {"start": "02:31:56", "end": "02:32:00", "text": "cultures that come later, and they all"}, {"start": "02:31:58", "end": "02:32:02", "text": "have like vaguely similar pantheons of"}, {"start": "02:32:00", "end": "02:32:04", "text": "gods, you know, you've got Chac, the"}, {"start": "02:32:02", "end": "02:32:06", "text": "rain god, and Chac, you also [snorts]"}, {"start": "02:32:04", "end": "02:32:08", "text": "have the rain god in so many different"}, {"start": "02:32:06", "end": "02:32:10", "text": "other cultures, and you've got"}, {"start": "02:32:08", "end": "02:32:12", "text": "Kukulcan, which is the serpent god, and"}, {"start": "02:32:10", "end": "02:32:14", "text": "Quetzalcoatl, which is this god, and you"}, {"start": "02:32:12", "end": "02:32:16", "text": "know, the only one that actually of this"}, {"start": "02:32:14", "end": "02:32:17", "text": "massive pantheon of Mesoamerican gods,"}, {"start": "02:32:16", "end": "02:32:19", "text": "the only one that we can see in the"}, {"start": "02:32:17", "end": "02:32:20", "text": "Olmec world is actually the feathered"}, {"start": "02:32:19", "end": "02:32:24", "text": "serpent."}, {"start": "02:32:20", "end": "02:32:27", "text": "Kukulcan or Quetzalcoatl is depicted on"}, {"start": "02:32:24", "end": "02:32:29", "text": "Monument 19 in the Olmec world. But, it"}, {"start": "02:32:27", "end": "02:32:30", "text": "seems like the Olmec religion is more"}, {"start": "02:32:29", "end": "02:32:31", "text": "based on shamanism and everything. So,"}, {"start": "02:32:30", "end": "02:32:33", "text": "it's like a it's almost like a"}, {"start": "02:32:31", "end": "02:32:35", "text": "pre-Mesoamerican"}, {"start": "02:32:33", "end": "02:32:38", "text": "civilization. They Do we see feathered"}, {"start": "02:32:35", "end": "02:32:39", "text": "serpent later anywhere? Oh, yeah, yeah."}, {"start": "02:32:38", "end": "02:32:41", "text": "So,"}, {"start": "02:32:39", "end": "02:32:43", "text": ">> that's very random to put feathers on a"}, {"start": "02:32:41", "end": "02:32:45", "text": "snake. Yeah, well, it plays into this"}, {"start": "02:32:43", "end": "02:32:46", "text": "whole dragon fascination that has men."}, {"start": "02:32:45", "end": "02:32:47", "text": "So,"}, {"start": "02:32:46", "end": "02:32:50", "text": "um"}, {"start": "02:32:47", "end": "02:32:52", "text": "it it is so it is such an odd thing. So,"}, {"start": "02:32:50", "end": "02:32:54", "text": "the the first time we see it is around a"}, {"start": "02:32:52", "end": "02:32:56", "text": "thousand BC."}, {"start": "02:32:54", "end": "02:32:58", "text": "Uh Olmec Monument 19. It was found at"}, {"start": "02:32:56", "end": "02:33:00", "text": "the city of of La Venta. It's on display"}, {"start": "02:32:58", "end": "02:33:03", "text": "in Mexico City today. Probably my"}, {"start": "02:33:00", "end": "02:33:04", "text": "favorite Olmec monument."}, {"start": "02:33:03", "end": "02:33:07", "text": "Such a particular"}, {"start": "02:33:04", "end": "02:33:09", "text": "depiction. And"}, {"start": "02:33:07", "end": "02:33:11", "text": "It's Monument 19. What do you like about"}, {"start": "02:33:09", "end": "02:33:13", "text": "it? What's so special? Is that it right"}, {"start": "02:33:11", "end": "02:33:15", "text": "there? No, no. So, that's that's"}, {"start": "02:33:13", "end": "02:33:16", "text": "Quetzalcoatl at Teotihuacan, which is"}, {"start": "02:33:15", "end": "02:33:18", "text": "interesting because at Teotihuacan, we"}, {"start": "02:33:16", "end": "02:33:21", "text": "don't actually know. Quetzalcoatl is an"}, {"start": "02:33:18", "end": "02:33:22", "text": "Aztec word, but the Aztecs adopted the"}, {"start": "02:33:21", "end": "02:33:23", "text": "feathered serpent. The the"}, {"start": "02:33:22", "end": "02:33:25", "text": "also had it, but we don't know what the"}, {"start": "02:33:23", "end": "02:33:27", "text": "Teotihuacanos called it, just like we"}, {"start": "02:33:25", "end": "02:33:29", "text": "don't know what the Olmecs Oh."}, {"start": "02:33:27", "end": "02:33:31", "text": "2,000 years earlier, right? So, think"}, {"start": "02:33:29", "end": "02:33:32", "text": "about this."}, {"start": "02:33:31", "end": "02:33:34", "text": "The Aztecs find Teotihuacan been"}, {"start": "02:33:32", "end": "02:33:36", "text": "abandoned for around 1,000 years. Okay,"}, {"start": "02:33:34", "end": "02:33:38", "text": "that's two"}, {"start": "02:33:36", "end": "02:33:41", "text": "Teotihuacan was abandoned 2,000 years"}, {"start": "02:33:38", "end": "02:33:42", "text": "after the Olmec period. Like the the the"}, {"start": "02:33:41", "end": "02:33:43", "text": "stretches of time we're talking about"}, {"start": "02:33:42", "end": "02:33:44", "text": "are enormous."}, {"start": "02:33:43", "end": "02:33:46", "text": ">> I don't think people really fully grasp"}, {"start": "02:33:44", "end": "02:33:48", "text": "how much time that is. Well, and that's"}, {"start": "02:33:46", "end": "02:33:50", "text": "kind of the thing is is one of as one of"}, {"start": "02:33:48", "end": "02:33:52", "text": "the things as I've"}, {"start": "02:33:50", "end": "02:33:54", "text": "Oh, there's the monument"}, {"start": "02:33:52", "end": "02:33:56", "text": ">> There we go. Yeah, yeah. So, look at the"}, {"start": "02:33:54", "end": "02:33:57", "text": "Look at the art style of its face, how"}, {"start": "02:33:56", "end": "02:33:59", "text": "proportional it is, and how"}, {"start": "02:33:57", "end": "02:34:01", "text": "aesthetically pleasing it is. This is"}, {"start": "02:33:59", "end": "02:34:04", "text": "like professional artistry even by"}, {"start": "02:34:01", "end": "02:34:06", "text": "today's standards, right? How does this"}, {"start": "02:34:04", "end": "02:34:09", "text": "appear out of the ether of time? And"}, {"start": "02:34:06", "end": "02:34:10", "text": "this is made with stone tools somehow?"}, {"start": "02:34:09", "end": "02:34:12", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "02:34:10", "end": "02:34:14", "text": ">> And there's the the the omnipresent"}, {"start": "02:34:12", "end": "02:34:18", "text": "purse. Yeah, you got you got the you got"}, {"start": "02:34:14", "end": "02:34:19", "text": "the handbag guy. And um it it's it's"}, {"start": "02:34:18", "end": "02:34:21", "text": "fascinating. He's being carried by You"}, {"start": "02:34:19", "end": "02:34:23", "text": "can like he the the serpent is wrapped"}, {"start": "02:34:21", "end": "02:34:25", "text": "around him, and the serpent's carrying"}, {"start": "02:34:23", "end": "02:34:27", "text": ">> I see that, yeah. So,"}, {"start": "02:34:25", "end": "02:34:29", "text": "where does this where does this come"}, {"start": "02:34:27", "end": "02:34:31", "text": "from? Like how do ancient people first"}, {"start": "02:34:29", "end": "02:34:34", "text": "come up with this"}, {"start": "02:34:31", "end": "02:34:38", "text": "iconography? And, you know, this kind of"}, {"start": "02:34:34", "end": "02:34:39", "text": "art style, the ability to be able to"}, {"start": "02:34:38", "end": "02:34:41", "text": "let's say"}, {"start": "02:34:39", "end": "02:34:43", "text": "to have the economy developed to be able"}, {"start": "02:34:41", "end": "02:34:45", "text": "to commission things like this. Because"}, {"start": "02:34:43", "end": "02:34:47", "text": "the Olmecs don't have this kind of stone"}, {"start": "02:34:45", "end": "02:34:49", "text": "in their land. It's being exported from"}, {"start": "02:34:47", "end": "02:34:51", "text": "outside from outside of their land."}, {"start": "02:34:49", "end": "02:34:52", "text": "And that's been traced? We know where"}, {"start": "02:34:51", "end": "02:34:54", "text": "that stone is from?"}, {"start": "02:34:52", "end": "02:34:57", "text": ">> yeah. The Sierra de los Tuxtlas volcanic"}, {"start": "02:34:54", "end": "02:34:58", "text": "belt. Um and so I it's a it's a"}, {"start": "02:34:57", "end": "02:35:01", "text": "peripheral obscure culture that was in"}, {"start": "02:34:58", "end": "02:35:04", "text": "control of that area, but the Olmecs are"}, {"start": "02:35:01", "end": "02:35:05", "text": "paying to have that quarried, and then"}, {"start": "02:35:04", "end": "02:35:06", "text": "either the Olmecs are bringing it, or"}, {"start": "02:35:05", "end": "02:35:07", "text": "that other culture is bringing it. I"}, {"start": "02:35:06", "end": "02:35:09", "text": "mean, we don't really know. And this is"}, {"start": "02:35:07", "end": "02:35:11", "text": "supposed to be pre-agriculture, which"}, {"start": "02:35:09", "end": "02:35:13", "text": "just doesn't work."}, {"start": "02:35:11", "end": "02:35:15", "text": "Cuz a society would need to be separated"}, {"start": "02:35:13", "end": "02:35:17", "text": "at this point. Oh, no, this this here is"}, {"start": "02:35:15", "end": "02:35:18", "text": "well into agriculture Yeah, yeah, yeah,"}, {"start": "02:35:17", "end": "02:35:20", "text": "yeah. So, the So the Olmecs they're"}, {"start": "02:35:18", "end": "02:35:22", "text": "getting So"}, {"start": "02:35:20", "end": "02:35:26", "text": "So the the Coatzacoalcos River is one of"}, {"start": "02:35:22", "end": "02:35:29", "text": "the largest rivers. Like it goes from I"}, {"start": "02:35:26", "end": "02:35:31", "text": "I could I could be wrong here, but it it"}, {"start": "02:35:29", "end": "02:35:32", "text": "might connect the oceans."}, {"start": "02:35:31", "end": "02:35:34", "text": "Okay."}, {"start": "02:35:32", "end": "02:35:35", "text": "You know, between the Or Or I should say"}, {"start": "02:35:34", "end": "02:35:37", "text": "the Gulf like I"}, {"start": "02:35:35", "end": "02:35:40", "text": "You may be able to At least I know that"}, {"start": "02:35:37", "end": "02:35:42", "text": "it cuts down that massive narrow area"}, {"start": "02:35:40", "end": "02:35:44", "text": "because you have uh"}, {"start": "02:35:42", "end": "02:35:45", "text": "you have Olmec sites that dot it all the"}, {"start": "02:35:44", "end": "02:35:47", "text": "way from the Gulf Coast all the way to"}, {"start": "02:35:45", "end": "02:35:49", "text": "the Pacific along that Coatzacoalcos"}, {"start": "02:35:47", "end": "02:35:50", "text": "these really fertile river valleys. And"}, {"start": "02:35:49", "end": "02:35:52", "text": "so the Olmecs"}, {"start": "02:35:50", "end": "02:35:54", "text": ">> I didn't know they went that far west."}, {"start": "02:35:52", "end": "02:35:56", "text": "Oh, yeah, yeah. We have We have Olmec um"}, {"start": "02:35:54", "end": "02:35:57", "text": "cities on the on the Pacific Ocean like"}, {"start": "02:35:56", "end": "02:36:00", "text": "right next to the beach."}, {"start": "02:35:57", "end": "02:36:02", "text": ">> know that. This is a empire."}, {"start": "02:36:00", "end": "02:36:04", "text": "Probably. My guess My guess is it's an"}, {"start": "02:36:02", "end": "02:36:06", "text": "empire. Nobody calls it that. We We just"}, {"start": "02:36:04", "end": "02:36:08", "text": "call it a culture because we don't even"}, {"start": "02:36:06", "end": "02:36:10", "text": "know We don't even have the slightest"}, {"start": "02:36:08", "end": "02:36:12", "text": "understanding of how their government"}, {"start": "02:36:10", "end": "02:36:14", "text": "operated, right? Um but we know that"}, {"start": "02:36:12", "end": "02:36:17", "text": "they're super powerful and that power"}, {"start": "02:36:14", "end": "02:36:20", "text": "might guess must have come from how lush"}, {"start": "02:36:17", "end": "02:36:22", "text": "the uh how lush the valley is because"}, {"start": "02:36:20", "end": "02:36:23", "text": "I I've stood over it before and I've"}, {"start": "02:36:22", "end": "02:36:26", "text": "taken a picture isolated of just the"}, {"start": "02:36:23", "end": "02:36:28", "text": "Coatzacoalcos Valley at the base of uh"}, {"start": "02:36:26", "end": "02:36:29", "text": "the city of San Lorenzo. And one of my"}, {"start": "02:36:28", "end": "02:36:31", "text": "buddies who was there with me who's also"}, {"start": "02:36:29", "end": "02:36:33", "text": "been to Egypt, I showed him that"}, {"start": "02:36:31", "end": "02:36:34", "text": "picture. I said, \"If I told you that was"}, {"start": "02:36:33", "end": "02:36:38", "text": "in Egypt, you would think it was cuz it"}, {"start": "02:36:34", "end": "02:36:41", "text": "looks just like Egypt.\" You look at"}, {"start": "02:36:38", "end": "02:36:43", "text": "photos of the Mesopotamian Valley of you"}, {"start": "02:36:41", "end": "02:36:45", "text": "know, the the Fertile Crescent, looks"}, {"start": "02:36:43", "end": "02:36:47", "text": "exactly the same. It's just that fertile"}, {"start": "02:36:45", "end": "02:36:50", "text": "valley where things can grow just at a"}, {"start": "02:36:47", "end": "02:36:52", "text": "level no one else can. So the Olmecs"}, {"start": "02:36:50", "end": "02:36:53", "text": "they're profiting off of all of that and"}, {"start": "02:36:52", "end": "02:36:55", "text": "they become"}, {"start": "02:36:53", "end": "02:36:57", "text": "the first emergent civilization in"}, {"start": "02:36:55", "end": "02:36:59", "text": "Mesoamerica. But again, it's like"}, {"start": "02:36:57", "end": "02:37:01", "text": "instant. It just more than any other"}, {"start": "02:36:59", "end": "02:37:04", "text": "culture in the ancient world, far more."}, {"start": "02:37:01", "end": "02:37:07", "text": "It's not even comparable because by"}, {"start": "02:37:04", "end": "02:37:09", "text": "definition the the the Olmecs appear on"}, {"start": "02:37:07", "end": "02:37:10", "text": "the historical record fully formed. Not"}, {"start": "02:37:09", "end": "02:37:13", "text": "like, \"Oh, well, you You it was super"}, {"start": "02:37:10", "end": "02:37:14", "text": "fast.\" Like I just I'm just saying that."}, {"start": "02:37:13", "end": "02:37:16", "text": "No, I'm not just saying it. That's"}, {"start": "02:37:14", "end": "02:37:17", "text": "actually the way it is in the"}, {"start": "02:37:16", "end": "02:37:19", "text": "archaeological record. There's no"}, {"start": "02:37:17", "end": "02:37:21", "text": "formative period. They just boom,"}, {"start": "02:37:19", "end": "02:37:23", "text": "they're there. Do we know genetically"}, {"start": "02:37:21", "end": "02:37:27", "text": "who they were? Yeah, well, I mean, all"}, {"start": "02:37:23", "end": "02:37:28", "text": "you can do is you can go to the most I"}, {"start": "02:37:27", "end": "02:37:31", "text": "and they've done this. You can go to the"}, {"start": "02:37:28", "end": "02:37:32", "text": "most isolated like indigenous villages"}, {"start": "02:37:31", "end": "02:37:34", "text": "in Mexico today. You've got these little"}, {"start": "02:37:32", "end": "02:37:36", "text": "little tiny towns where people still"}, {"start": "02:37:34", "end": "02:37:38", "text": "live in huts and in the same way that"}, {"start": "02:37:36", "end": "02:37:40", "text": "ancient people have been doing for"}, {"start": "02:37:38", "end": "02:37:41", "text": "thousands of years. There's Maya people"}, {"start": "02:37:40", "end": "02:37:44", "text": "still living in the traditional Maya"}, {"start": "02:37:41", "end": "02:37:46", "text": "huts. So, you get their DNA and yeah,"}, {"start": "02:37:44", "end": "02:37:49", "text": "it's it's like ancient American DNA"}, {"start": "02:37:46", "end": "02:37:50", "text": "connected to uh"}, {"start": "02:37:49", "end": "02:37:52", "text": "uh connected to the people who came"}, {"start": "02:37:50", "end": "02:37:53", "text": "across the the Bering Strait. It's the"}, {"start": "02:37:52", "end": "02:37:54", "text": "same sort of DNA."}, {"start": "02:37:53", "end": "02:37:55", "text": ">> and Polynesian."}, {"start": "02:37:54", "end": "02:37:57", "text": ">> know what's interesting is like it's"}, {"start": "02:37:55", "end": "02:37:59", "text": "it's actually southern Chinese. It's not"}, {"start": "02:37:57", "end": "02:38:01", "text": "even northern Chinese, it's southern"}, {"start": "02:37:59", "end": "02:38:02", "text": "Chinese DNA. That's a whole mystery like"}, {"start": "02:38:01", "end": "02:38:04", "text": "what caused people from southern China"}, {"start": "02:38:02", "end": "02:38:06", "text": "to migrate and not people from northern"}, {"start": "02:38:04", "end": "02:38:08", "text": "China or north of that, but it's"}, {"start": "02:38:06", "end": "02:38:11", "text": "southern Chinese DNA that's at the root"}, {"start": "02:38:08", "end": "02:38:13", "text": "of Native Americans. Um yeah, it's"}, {"start": "02:38:11", "end": "02:38:17", "text": "interesting. Uh and the Olmec people are"}, {"start": "02:38:13", "end": "02:38:19", "text": "born with um birthmarks that come from"}, {"start": "02:38:17", "end": "02:38:21", "text": "uh that come from Mongolia. They they"}, {"start": "02:38:19", "end": "02:38:22", "text": "got these little the babies will have"}, {"start": "02:38:21", "end": "02:38:24", "text": "birthmarks like on their butts and then"}, {"start": "02:38:22", "end": "02:38:26", "text": "the birthmark will disappear."}, {"start": "02:38:24", "end": "02:38:27", "text": "That's a Mongolian trait. It happens to"}, {"start": "02:38:26", "end": "02:38:28", "text": "Mongolian babies, too. I never heard"}, {"start": "02:38:27", "end": "02:38:30", "text": "that."}, {"start": "02:38:28", "end": "02:38:31", "text": ">> Yeah, yeah, I'm pretty sure that it that"}, {"start": "02:38:30", "end": "02:38:34", "text": "that's right. Dr. Barnhart, he did he"}, {"start": "02:38:31", "end": "02:38:35", "text": "documented this. Um it it is a birthmark"}, {"start": "02:38:34", "end": "02:38:38", "text": "that disappears, but I think it's on"}, {"start": "02:38:35", "end": "02:38:40", "text": "their butt. And um yeah, so that so they"}, {"start": "02:38:38", "end": "02:38:42", "text": "are uh you know, they're just the"}, {"start": "02:38:40", "end": "02:38:43", "text": "descendants of the people that came"}, {"start": "02:38:42", "end": "02:38:45", "text": "across"}, {"start": "02:38:43", "end": "02:38:47", "text": "either with the Clovis or after them or,"}, {"start": "02:38:45", "end": "02:38:49", "text": "you know,"}, {"start": "02:38:47", "end": "02:38:51", "text": "some point in far distant past, but they"}, {"start": "02:38:49", "end": "02:38:53", "text": "they as far as we know, they are uh"}, {"start": "02:38:51", "end": "02:38:54", "text": "Native American. But what's really"}, {"start": "02:38:53", "end": "02:38:58", "text": "interesting about Mexico"}, {"start": "02:38:54", "end": "02:39:01", "text": "is the genetic diversity is just crazy."}, {"start": "02:38:58", "end": "02:39:02", "text": "You can actually look at people from"}, {"start": "02:39:01", "end": "02:39:04", "text": "different parts of Mexico and you can"}, {"start": "02:39:02", "end": "02:39:06", "text": "tell a difference. And uh you know, we"}, {"start": "02:39:04", "end": "02:39:08", "text": "think of Native Americans as being this"}, {"start": "02:39:06", "end": "02:39:10", "text": "monolithic people. They all sort of look"}, {"start": "02:39:08", "end": "02:39:11", "text": "the same. But the deeper I've gone into"}, {"start": "02:39:10", "end": "02:39:13", "text": "it, the more I've realized like, \"No,"}, {"start": "02:39:11", "end": "02:39:15", "text": "no, no. Comanche's look a lot different"}, {"start": "02:39:13", "end": "02:39:18", "text": "than Cherokee. The Cherokee look a lot"}, {"start": "02:39:15", "end": "02:39:19", "text": "different than the Iroquois Iroquois"}, {"start": "02:39:18", "end": "02:39:21", "text": "people"}, {"start": "02:39:19", "end": "02:39:23", "text": "Natives from California look a lot"}, {"start": "02:39:21", "end": "02:39:24", "text": "different.\" Well, it's half the planet."}, {"start": "02:39:23", "end": "02:39:26", "text": ">> I know, but you just don't you know, you"}, {"start": "02:39:24", "end": "02:39:28", "text": "don't think about it, right? We have"}, {"start": "02:39:26", "end": "02:39:32", "text": "like these implicit biases where we kind"}, {"start": "02:39:28", "end": "02:39:33", "text": "of over simplify uh other places"}, {"start": "02:39:32", "end": "02:39:35", "text": "for it to make sense in our mind, you"}, {"start": "02:39:33", "end": "02:39:38", "text": "know what I mean? And um and in Mexico"}, {"start": "02:39:35", "end": "02:39:40", "text": "in particular, man, Maya people look so"}, {"start": "02:39:38", "end": "02:39:43", "text": "much different than Zapotecs or"}, {"start": "02:39:40", "end": "02:39:45", "text": "Wahakans. And those all look different"}, {"start": "02:39:43", "end": "02:39:48", "text": "than the Olmecs. The Olmecs are so The"}, {"start": "02:39:45", "end": "02:39:50", "text": "Olmecs have the roundish puffy faces,"}, {"start": "02:39:48", "end": "02:39:53", "text": "and they actually legitimately have"}, {"start": "02:39:50", "end": "02:39:54", "text": "that. They don't really look like uh"}, {"start": "02:39:53", "end": "02:39:57", "text": "they have these skinny The Maya have"}, {"start": "02:39:54", "end": "02:39:59", "text": "these skinny long angular faces. The"}, {"start": "02:39:57", "end": "02:40:01", "text": "Olmecs are exactly the opposite of that."}, {"start": "02:39:59", "end": "02:40:02", "text": "And there were I should have gotten a"}, {"start": "02:40:01", "end": "02:40:04", "text": "photo of it, but I I didn't want to ask"}, {"start": "02:40:02", "end": "02:40:06", "text": "the guy. I was"}, {"start": "02:40:04", "end": "02:40:08", "text": "on a flight"}, {"start": "02:40:06", "end": "02:40:11", "text": "into Veracruz."}, {"start": "02:40:08", "end": "02:40:13", "text": "And the guy sitting next to me was an"}, {"start": "02:40:11", "end": "02:40:15", "text": "Olmec. I don't know if he knew that, but"}, {"start": "02:40:13", "end": "02:40:17", "text": "he was an Olmec. Like if I turn his face"}, {"start": "02:40:15", "end": "02:40:19", "text": "into stone, it would be an Olmec head."}, {"start": "02:40:17", "end": "02:40:22", "text": "He was this just this big sort of"}, {"start": "02:40:19", "end": "02:40:24", "text": "Samoan-looking guy, you know, real puffy"}, {"start": "02:40:22", "end": "02:40:26", "text": "puffy face, big nose, big lips, big"}, {"start": "02:40:24", "end": "02:40:27", "text": "eyes. And he's sitting there, and I just"}, {"start": "02:40:26", "end": "02:40:29", "text": "I was like, \"I want to sneak a photo of"}, {"start": "02:40:27", "end": "02:40:30", "text": "this guy to so I would have so I would"}, {"start": "02:40:29", "end": "02:40:31", "text": "have proof, but"}, {"start": "02:40:30", "end": "02:40:33", "text": ">> on him."}, {"start": "02:40:31", "end": "02:40:35", "text": ">> They still look that way today."}, {"start": "02:40:33", "end": "02:40:36", "text": "Um What do we What do we think that hat"}, {"start": "02:40:35", "end": "02:40:38", "text": "is? That helmet that the heads are"}, {"start": "02:40:36", "end": "02:40:39", "text": "wearing? I mean, I don't buy the ball"}, {"start": "02:40:38", "end": "02:40:39", "text": "court"}, {"start": "02:40:39", "end": "02:40:40", "text": ">> [clears throat]"}, {"start": "02:40:39", "end": "02:40:42", "text": ">> thing. It just"}, {"start": "02:40:40", "end": "02:40:43", "text": ">> Oh, that is that is the depiction of of"}, {"start": "02:40:42", "end": "02:40:44", "text": "ball court players."}, {"start": "02:40:43", "end": "02:40:47", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "02:40:44", "end": "02:40:50", "text": "I think I think it's a fusion uh of of"}, {"start": "02:40:47", "end": "02:40:54", "text": "that because we know that the ball game"}, {"start": "02:40:50", "end": "02:40:56", "text": "is at the central is at the center of"}, {"start": "02:40:54", "end": "02:40:57", "text": "Mesoamerican mythology. Like, you know,"}, {"start": "02:40:56", "end": "02:41:00", "text": "you got you got the hero twins that are"}, {"start": "02:40:57", "end": "02:41:01", "text": "playing the ball game, and uh you know,"}, {"start": "02:41:00", "end": "02:41:04", "text": "the ball game goes goes to the the"}, {"start": "02:41:01", "end": "02:41:05", "text": "center of their primordial worldview."}, {"start": "02:41:04", "end": "02:41:08", "text": "It's tied to the very essence of the"}, {"start": "02:41:05", "end": "02:41:10", "text": "universe itself."}, {"start": "02:41:08", "end": "02:41:11", "text": "And I think that it's more than just"}, {"start": "02:41:10", "end": "02:41:13", "text": "like"}, {"start": "02:41:11", "end": "02:41:14", "text": "oh, they're ball game players and it's"}, {"start": "02:41:13", "end": "02:41:16", "text": "about the game. I think it's about like"}, {"start": "02:41:14", "end": "02:41:19", "text": "that I think it's about like the order"}, {"start": "02:41:16", "end": "02:41:23", "text": "of the entire universe itself."}, {"start": "02:41:19", "end": "02:41:24", "text": "And probably also about looking tough."}, {"start": "02:41:23", "end": "02:41:25", "text": "What's the most Do you know Do you know"}, {"start": "02:41:24", "end": "02:41:28", "text": "the most common way that communists"}, {"start": "02:41:25", "end": "02:41:29", "text": "depict themselves? As a gladiator. Yeah,"}, {"start": "02:41:28", "end": "02:41:31", "text": "yeah. So, I think it's I think it's a"}, {"start": "02:41:29", "end": "02:41:32", "text": "similar thing to that. That is"}, {"start": "02:41:31", "end": "02:41:34", "text": ">> Oh, that That's interesting."}, {"start": "02:41:32", "end": "02:41:35", "text": ">> I think it's a similar thing to that"}, {"start": "02:41:34", "end": "02:41:38", "text": "that they they depict themselves because"}, {"start": "02:41:35", "end": "02:41:41", "text": "people, you know, you know, normal Roman"}, {"start": "02:41:38", "end": "02:41:43", "text": "people would actually glorify the"}, {"start": "02:41:41", "end": "02:41:45", "text": "gladiators because it was so cool, but"}, {"start": "02:41:43", "end": "02:41:47", "text": "there was a weird paradox there because"}, {"start": "02:41:45", "end": "02:41:49", "text": "it was like this show of physical"}, {"start": "02:41:47", "end": "02:41:50", "text": "display, but yet the people are slaves."}, {"start": "02:41:49", "end": "02:41:53", "text": "So, you're like idolizing a slave,"}, {"start": "02:41:50", "end": "02:41:56", "text": "right? So, inherently, we can't help but"}, {"start": "02:41:53", "end": "02:41:57", "text": "idolize athletes or like physical"}, {"start": "02:41:56", "end": "02:41:58", "text": "competition or whatever. So, I think"}, {"start": "02:41:57", "end": "02:42:01", "text": "that"}, {"start": "02:41:58", "end": "02:42:02", "text": "if those guys really are kings, and I"}, {"start": "02:42:01", "end": "02:42:05", "text": "think that they might be. I think that"}, {"start": "02:42:02", "end": "02:42:07", "text": "they are. Well, it's a lot of resources"}, {"start": "02:42:05", "end": "02:42:09", "text": "Yeah, I I think that it's I think that"}, {"start": "02:42:07", "end": "02:42:11", "text": "it's more than just the game. It's It's"}, {"start": "02:42:09", "end": "02:42:13", "text": "the fact that the game is infused with"}, {"start": "02:42:11", "end": "02:42:16", "text": "the culture,"}, {"start": "02:42:13", "end": "02:42:18", "text": "um, and their and their religion all"}, {"start": "02:42:16", "end": "02:42:21", "text": "together. And also"}, {"start": "02:42:18", "end": "02:42:23", "text": "by proverbially presenting yourself as a"}, {"start": "02:42:21", "end": "02:42:25", "text": "gladiator, you look cool. You do?"}, {"start": "02:42:23", "end": "02:42:27", "text": ">> So, so so that's my thought is that"}, {"start": "02:42:25", "end": "02:42:30", "text": "maybe it's all of these things put"}, {"start": "02:42:27", "end": "02:42:32", "text": "together. In In our Western way of"}, {"start": "02:42:30", "end": "02:42:34", "text": "thinking because we're so platonic, like"}, {"start": "02:42:32", "end": "02:42:36", "text": "we you and I, the way that we think"}, {"start": "02:42:34", "end": "02:42:39", "text": "comes from the Athenians. They they're"}, {"start": "02:42:36", "end": "02:42:40", "text": "categorical in nature."}, {"start": "02:42:39", "end": "02:42:42", "text": "Well,"}, {"start": "02:42:40", "end": "02:42:43", "text": "so we've got these categories here."}, {"start": "02:42:42", "end": "02:42:44", "text": "Either"}, {"start": "02:42:43", "end": "02:42:46", "text": "When you're thinking of Native"}, {"start": "02:42:44", "end": "02:42:47", "text": "Americans, either you have to like"}, {"start": "02:42:46", "end": "02:42:50", "text": "comprehend the fact that like we're"}, {"start": "02:42:47", "end": "02:42:52", "text": "either getting rid of those categories"}, {"start": "02:42:50", "end": "02:42:53", "text": "or we are inverting the categories where"}, {"start": "02:42:52", "end": "02:42:57", "text": "they're complete they're the actual"}, {"start": "02:42:53", "end": "02:42:59", "text": "opposite of ours. And the way that they"}, {"start": "02:42:57", "end": "02:43:01", "text": "compute and merge things together is"}, {"start": "02:42:59", "end": "02:43:02", "text": "totally different than the way that we"}, {"start": "02:43:01", "end": "02:43:05", "text": "do. So, it's like"}, {"start": "02:43:02", "end": "02:43:05", "text": ">> you mean? It's like we're"}, {"start": "02:43:08", "end": "02:43:14", "text": "The feathered serpent is is a perfect is"}, {"start": "02:43:10", "end": "02:43:14", "text": "a perfect example here. Um"}, {"start": "02:43:15", "end": "02:43:21", "text": "They know"}, {"start": "02:43:18", "end": "02:43:23", "text": "Native Americans know that the feathered"}, {"start": "02:43:21", "end": "02:43:28", "text": "serpent is not real."}, {"start": "02:43:23", "end": "02:43:28", "text": "It is an amalgamation of different"}, {"start": "02:43:29", "end": "02:43:35", "text": "esoteric, spiritual, almost like"}, {"start": "02:43:31", "end": "02:43:36", "text": "philosophical parts of their world."}, {"start": "02:43:35", "end": "02:43:38", "text": "And what the feathered serpent"}, {"start": "02:43:36", "end": "02:43:41", "text": "represents"}, {"start": "02:43:38", "end": "02:43:43", "text": "Native Americans don't have any problem"}, {"start": "02:43:41", "end": "02:43:45", "text": "with taking multiple elements of their"}, {"start": "02:43:43", "end": "02:43:47", "text": "natural world, infusing them together in"}, {"start": "02:43:45", "end": "02:43:49", "text": "a way that wouldn't traditionally make"}, {"start": "02:43:47", "end": "02:43:50", "text": "any sense to us, but in a"}, {"start": "02:43:49", "end": "02:43:52", "text": "in a way that makes sense to them. And"}, {"start": "02:43:50", "end": "02:43:54", "text": "so, what that feathered serpent probably"}, {"start": "02:43:52", "end": "02:43:56", "text": "what I think that it represents, there's"}, {"start": "02:43:54", "end": "02:43:58", "text": "no real academic consensus on this, it's"}, {"start": "02:43:56", "end": "02:44:00", "text": "just me and Dr. Barnhart"}, {"start": "02:43:58", "end": "02:44:03", "text": "bullshitting for years about these"}, {"start": "02:44:00", "end": "02:44:05", "text": "ideas. Um I think it I think it's an"}, {"start": "02:44:03", "end": "02:44:08", "text": "esoteric"}, {"start": "02:44:05", "end": "02:44:11", "text": "symbolism of the conquering of the three"}, {"start": "02:44:08", "end": "02:44:14", "text": "realms. A snake is born underground."}, {"start": "02:44:11", "end": "02:44:16", "text": "Yep. It ri- it rises up. So, it's born"}, {"start": "02:44:14", "end": "02:44:20", "text": "in it's born in the underworld, it rises"}, {"start": "02:44:16", "end": "02:44:22", "text": "up and conquers the mid-realm. And what"}, {"start": "02:44:20", "end": "02:44:24", "text": "I think that Mesoamericans, maybe they"}, {"start": "02:44:22", "end": "02:44:26", "text": "originally were seeing, but they knew"}, {"start": "02:44:24", "end": "02:44:28", "text": "that these were actually two separated"}, {"start": "02:44:26", "end": "02:44:31", "text": "things because of we can see on the"}, {"start": "02:44:28", "end": "02:44:33", "text": "Olmec Monument 19 that they knew"}, {"start": "02:44:31", "end": "02:44:36", "text": "I'll tell I'll tell you."}, {"start": "02:44:33", "end": "02:44:38", "text": "Probably like 10,000 years ago."}, {"start": "02:44:36", "end": "02:44:41", "text": "Mesoamericans are seeing what's called"}, {"start": "02:44:38", "end": "02:44:43", "text": "the quetzal bird fly around. And it's"}, {"start": "02:44:41", "end": "02:44:44", "text": "this bird with this little bitty body"}, {"start": "02:44:43", "end": "02:44:46", "text": "and these two wings that come off the"}, {"start": "02:44:44", "end": "02:44:49", "text": "body and this massive tail. So, what it"}, {"start": "02:44:46", "end": "02:44:51", "text": "looks like is a snake cuz you have this"}, {"start": "02:44:49", "end": "02:44:53", "text": "long tail and this little body here."}, {"start": "02:44:51", "end": "02:44:55", "text": "Looks like a snake and you add the wings"}, {"start": "02:44:53", "end": "02:44:56", "text": "on to it. And so and you could look up"}, {"start": "02:44:55", "end": "02:44:58", "text": "something like you could look up like a"}, {"start": "02:44:56", "end": "02:45:00", "text": "quetzal bird flying. And so it looks"}, {"start": "02:44:58", "end": "02:45:02", "text": "like a snake that's flying with wings"}, {"start": "02:45:00", "end": "02:45:04", "text": "coming out of its head. That's why these"}, {"start": "02:45:02", "end": "02:45:06", "text": "wings come out on Monument 19. That's"}, {"start": "02:45:04", "end": "02:45:07", "text": "why the wings come out of the head. It's"}, {"start": "02:45:06", "end": "02:45:09", "text": "actually the same thing in the mound"}, {"start": "02:45:07", "end": "02:45:11", "text": "builder world. They also there's also a"}, {"start": "02:45:09", "end": "02:45:14", "text": "dragon"}, {"start": "02:45:11", "end": "02:45:15", "text": "up here in like the United States."}, {"start": "02:45:14", "end": "02:45:17", "text": "Um and um"}, {"start": "02:45:15", "end": "02:45:19", "text": "what I Yeah, so there you go. So that"}, {"start": "02:45:17", "end": "02:45:21", "text": "tail is actually much much longer than"}, {"start": "02:45:19", "end": "02:45:23", "text": "that. Um you just can't tell by this"}, {"start": "02:45:21", "end": "02:45:25", "text": "angle. But it looks like wings coming"}, {"start": "02:45:23", "end": "02:45:28", "text": "out of a and I've seen one quetzal bird"}, {"start": "02:45:25", "end": "02:45:30", "text": "in in in person. I walked into"}, {"start": "02:45:28", "end": "02:45:32", "text": "a temple in the Yucatan and a quetzal"}, {"start": "02:45:30", "end": "02:45:34", "text": "bird flew straight over my head out the"}, {"start": "02:45:32", "end": "02:45:36", "text": "out of the temple. But it looks like a"}, {"start": "02:45:34", "end": "02:45:38", "text": "snake with wings. But we know that they"}, {"start": "02:45:36", "end": "02:45:40", "text": "didn't actually think it was a snake"}, {"start": "02:45:38", "end": "02:45:43", "text": "with wings because if you go back to"}, {"start": "02:45:40", "end": "02:45:44", "text": "Monument 19, there are two quetzal birds"}, {"start": "02:45:43", "end": "02:45:45", "text": "depicted on the monument. So they"}, {"start": "02:45:44", "end": "02:45:49", "text": "weren't being fooled."}, {"start": "02:45:45", "end": "02:45:51", "text": "What I think it [snorts] is is it's a um"}, {"start": "02:45:49", "end": "02:45:53", "text": "The feathered serpent is a symbol of the"}, {"start": "02:45:51", "end": "02:45:56", "text": "fact that whoever this person is,"}, {"start": "02:45:53", "end": "02:45:58", "text": "whoever the ruler is, this person that"}, {"start": "02:45:56", "end": "02:46:01", "text": "is essentially summoning the power of"}, {"start": "02:45:58", "end": "02:46:03", "text": "the quetzal bird or of of Quetzalcoatl"}, {"start": "02:46:01", "end": "02:46:04", "text": "or the feathered serpent, it's it's like"}, {"start": "02:46:03", "end": "02:46:06", "text": "a s-"}, {"start": "02:46:04", "end": "02:46:08", "text": "it's symbolic of the fact that this"}, {"start": "02:46:06", "end": "02:46:10", "text": "person is fully awakened and they have"}, {"start": "02:46:08", "end": "02:46:11", "text": "conquered all three levels of existence."}, {"start": "02:46:10", "end": "02:46:13", "text": "They've been born in the underworld,"}, {"start": "02:46:11", "end": "02:46:15", "text": "they came to the mid-world, and they"}, {"start": "02:46:13", "end": "02:46:18", "text": "ascended probably through hallucinogenic"}, {"start": "02:46:15", "end": "02:46:20", "text": "practices or something like that. They"}, {"start": "02:46:18", "end": "02:46:23", "text": "ascended to where their soul is able to"}, {"start": "02:46:20", "end": "02:46:24", "text": "fly like like this dragon, which is"}, {"start": "02:46:23", "end": "02:46:26", "text": "basically what this feathered serpent"}, {"start": "02:46:24", "end": "02:46:27", "text": "is. So they never they knew that that"}, {"start": "02:46:26", "end": "02:46:30", "text": "thing didn't actually exist, but they"}, {"start": "02:46:27", "end": "02:46:32", "text": "created it as a symbol of almost like"}, {"start": "02:46:30", "end": "02:46:34", "text": "awakening its itself if that makes a"}, {"start": "02:46:32", "end": "02:46:36", "text": "spiritual awakening, conquering all"}, {"start": "02:46:34", "end": "02:46:37", "text": "three levels of existence, maybe"}, {"start": "02:46:36", "end": "02:46:39", "text": "conquering death. That may That might be"}, {"start": "02:46:37", "end": "02:46:41", "text": "what it is. Flying in the air. It's"}, {"start": "02:46:39", "end": "02:46:43", "text": "really hard to uh"}, {"start": "02:46:41", "end": "02:46:44", "text": "It's really hard for us to try to like"}, {"start": "02:46:43", "end": "02:46:45", "text": "get in their mind and understand what"}, {"start": "02:46:44", "end": "02:46:47", "text": "they were thinking. But that's what I"}, {"start": "02:46:45", "end": "02:46:49", "text": "say that they're"}, {"start": "02:46:47", "end": "02:46:51", "text": "their ways of categorizing things and"}, {"start": "02:46:49", "end": "02:46:53", "text": "understanding the world is inverse to"}, {"start": "02:46:51", "end": "02:46:54", "text": "the way that we think in a lot of ways"}, {"start": "02:46:53", "end": "02:46:57", "text": "and it's"}, {"start": "02:46:54", "end": "02:46:58", "text": "it's not it's not natural to us to think"}, {"start": "02:46:57", "end": "02:47:00", "text": "like a like a Native American does, you"}, {"start": "02:46:58", "end": "02:47:02", "text": "know? It's Well, you brought up dragons"}, {"start": "02:47:00", "end": "02:47:04", "text": "and um"}, {"start": "02:47:02", "end": "02:47:06", "text": "what makes it hard for me to try to"}, {"start": "02:47:04", "end": "02:47:08", "text": "define a winged serpent is because it"}, {"start": "02:47:06", "end": "02:47:09", "text": "shows up everywhere."}, {"start": "02:47:08", "end": "02:47:11", "text": "So"}, {"start": "02:47:09", "end": "02:47:13", "text": "Yeah, it does. Was it really a"}, {"start": "02:47:11", "end": "02:47:13", "text": "thing?"}, {"start": "02:47:13", "end": "02:47:14", "text": ">> [clears throat]"}, {"start": "02:47:13", "end": "02:47:16", "text": ">> I don't know, man. I don't know. You"}, {"start": "02:47:14", "end": "02:47:17", "text": "know, I've seen the argument that's like"}, {"start": "02:47:16", "end": "02:47:19", "text": "um"}, {"start": "02:47:17", "end": "02:47:20", "text": "we have these massive um"}, {"start": "02:47:19", "end": "02:47:24", "text": ">> [snorts]"}, {"start": "02:47:20", "end": "02:47:26", "text": ">> I've seen the argument before that"}, {"start": "02:47:24", "end": "02:47:28", "text": "that not all the times do wings in"}, {"start": "02:47:26", "end": "02:47:29", "text": "fossils"}, {"start": "02:47:28", "end": "02:47:30", "text": "um"}, {"start": "02:47:29", "end": "02:47:32", "text": "not all the times are they are they"}, {"start": "02:47:30", "end": "02:47:33", "text": "preserved in fossils and that the wings"}, {"start": "02:47:32", "end": "02:47:36", "text": "the cartilage that they're that they're"}, {"start": "02:47:33", "end": "02:47:38", "text": "made out of could disintegrate and so we"}, {"start": "02:47:36", "end": "02:47:40", "text": "could be finding animals that existed"}, {"start": "02:47:38", "end": "02:47:43", "text": "anytime between 50,000 years ago to 50"}, {"start": "02:47:40", "end": "02:47:45", "text": "million years ago or more. No,"}, {"start": "02:47:43", "end": "02:47:47", "text": "definitely like 250 million years ago,"}, {"start": "02:47:45", "end": "02:47:49", "text": "maybe before the time of the dinosaurs"}, {"start": "02:47:47", "end": "02:47:50", "text": "that there could be fossils that we've"}, {"start": "02:47:49", "end": "02:47:51", "text": "had and we've created an entire animal"}, {"start": "02:47:50", "end": "02:47:53", "text": "around it. But actually that animal had"}, {"start": "02:47:51", "end": "02:47:55", "text": "wings at one point in time, you know?"}, {"start": "02:47:53", "end": "02:47:57", "text": ">> And feathers, And feathers, yeah, yeah,"}, {"start": "02:47:55", "end": "02:47:59", "text": "yeah. Yeah, so many of the dinosaurs had"}, {"start": "02:47:57", "end": "02:48:00", "text": "had feathers, which seems obvious cuz we"}, {"start": "02:47:59", "end": "02:48:02", "text": "we paint them all as being like fully"}, {"start": "02:48:00", "end": "02:48:03", "text": "reptilian, [snorts]"}, {"start": "02:48:02", "end": "02:48:06", "text": "but birds are reptiles, too, and they"}, {"start": "02:48:03", "end": "02:48:08", "text": "also have feathers, you know? So"}, {"start": "02:48:06", "end": "02:48:10", "text": "Yeah, the the serpent I can get around."}, {"start": "02:48:08", "end": "02:48:11", "text": "Flying [snorts] is a little harder, but"}, {"start": "02:48:10", "end": "02:48:13", "text": "you I can see it, but the breathing"}, {"start": "02:48:11", "end": "02:48:16", "text": "fire, that's so I don't know where they"}, {"start": "02:48:13", "end": "02:48:19", "text": "got that from. Yeah, and and um I did a"}, {"start": "02:48:16", "end": "02:48:21", "text": "little tracing of the um"}, {"start": "02:48:19", "end": "02:48:23", "text": "of the dragon through some parts of the"}, {"start": "02:48:21", "end": "02:48:24", "text": "ancient world recently and it I think"}, {"start": "02:48:23", "end": "02:48:26", "text": "that the"}, {"start": "02:48:24", "end": "02:48:30", "text": "I think that the breathing fire thing"}, {"start": "02:48:26", "end": "02:48:31", "text": "comes in the Middle Ages a lot."}, {"start": "02:48:30", "end": "02:48:34", "text": "And so I wonder if the Middle Ages are"}, {"start": "02:48:31", "end": "02:48:36", "text": "like very far removed from"}, {"start": "02:48:34", "end": "02:48:37", "text": "the pure dragon. Like if like if we if"}, {"start": "02:48:36", "end": "02:48:38", "text": "we"}, {"start": "02:48:37", "end": "02:48:42", "text": "if we wanted like a pure example of the"}, {"start": "02:48:38", "end": "02:48:45", "text": "dragon, I would probably point to"}, {"start": "02:48:42", "end": "02:48:47", "text": "ancient China and Mesoamerica."}, {"start": "02:48:45", "end": "02:48:50", "text": "Maybe ancient India, too."}, {"start": "02:48:47", "end": "02:48:51", "text": "Um, and"}, {"start": "02:48:50", "end": "02:48:53", "text": "I wonder if"}, {"start": "02:48:51", "end": "02:48:55", "text": "you know, the other thing I wonder is"}, {"start": "02:48:53", "end": "02:48:57", "text": "there are so many people who go down to"}, {"start": "02:48:55", "end": "02:48:59", "text": "the Amazon and they'll take in ayahuasca"}, {"start": "02:48:57", "end": "02:49:02", "text": "and they'll have a vision of a snake"}, {"start": "02:48:59", "end": "02:49:04", "text": "like a like a like a an anaconda"}, {"start": "02:49:02", "end": "02:49:07", "text": "swallowing them. I have a I have a buddy"}, {"start": "02:49:04", "end": "02:49:10", "text": "who told me that an anaconda swallowed"}, {"start": "02:49:07", "end": "02:49:12", "text": "him while he was on ayahuasca. And it"}, {"start": "02:49:10", "end": "02:49:14", "text": "wrapped around his body and whispered in"}, {"start": "02:49:12", "end": "02:49:16", "text": "his ear. It told him to be quiet and it"}, {"start": "02:49:14", "end": "02:49:17", "text": "told him, \"I'm going to kill you. I love"}, {"start": "02:49:16", "end": "02:49:19", "text": "you, though.\" Or something like that. \"I"}, {"start": "02:49:17", "end": "02:49:21", "text": "love you. Now I'm going to kill you.\""}, {"start": "02:49:19", "end": "02:49:22", "text": "And it would swallow him. And it was"}, {"start": "02:49:21", "end": "02:49:23", "text": "almost like it was like spiritual"}, {"start": "02:49:22", "end": "02:49:26", "text": "awakening."}, {"start": "02:49:23", "end": "02:49:28", "text": "Sometimes I wonder"}, {"start": "02:49:26", "end": "02:49:31", "text": "maybe dragons are real, but uh there's"}, {"start": "02:49:28", "end": "02:49:33", "text": "only one way to access them. And dragons"}, {"start": "02:49:31", "end": "02:49:34", "text": "and dragons are always"}, {"start": "02:49:33", "end": "02:49:35", "text": ">> Maybe they're real, just not really"}, {"start": "02:49:34", "end": "02:49:37", "text": "here."}, {"start": "02:49:35", "end": "02:49:40", "text": "And maybe dragon and dragons are always"}, {"start": "02:49:37", "end": "02:49:42", "text": "associated with um with"}, {"start": "02:49:40", "end": "02:49:43", "text": ">> rulers. Like the Chinese emperor, he"}, {"start": "02:49:42", "end": "02:49:46", "text": "wore the dragon pendant. He was a"}, {"start": "02:49:43", "end": "02:49:48", "text": "representative of the dragon. It seems"}, {"start": "02:49:46", "end": "02:49:52", "text": "like in Mesoamerica, you know, in the"}, {"start": "02:49:48", "end": "02:49:53", "text": "later Maya world, the the that Kukulcan"}, {"start": "02:49:52", "end": "02:49:56", "text": "is"}, {"start": "02:49:53", "end": "02:49:59", "text": "the Maya ruler is the human embodiment"}, {"start": "02:49:56", "end": "02:50:00", "text": "of Kukulcan and the Aztec ruler was the"}, {"start": "02:49:59", "end": "02:50:02", "text": "human embodiment of Quetzalcoatl. It was"}, {"start": "02:50:00", "end": "02:50:04", "text": "probably the same thing in Teotihuacan,"}, {"start": "02:50:02", "end": "02:50:06", "text": "too."}, {"start": "02:50:04", "end": "02:50:08", "text": "Which is where the Aztecs get that from"}, {"start": "02:50:06", "end": "02:50:10", "text": "cuz probably the Teotihuacanos still"}, {"start": "02:50:08", "end": "02:50:12", "text": "live, but like dispersed and their"}, {"start": "02:50:10", "end": "02:50:13", "text": "mythology carries down and the Aztecs"}, {"start": "02:50:12", "end": "02:50:14", "text": "absorb it and kind of reinvigorate it,"}, {"start": "02:50:13", "end": "02:50:16", "text": "but"}, {"start": "02:50:14", "end": "02:50:18", "text": "um Was it a positive symbol like it was"}, {"start": "02:50:16", "end": "02:50:18", "text": "in ancient China?"}, {"start": "02:50:18", "end": "02:50:19", "text": ">> [snorts]"}, {"start": "02:50:18", "end": "02:50:20", "text": ">> Cuz dragon was a positive symbol for"}, {"start": "02:50:19", "end": "02:50:23", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "02:50:20", "end": "02:50:23", "text": ">> But not in Norse mythology or everywhere"}, {"start": "02:50:23", "end": "02:50:25", "text": "else."}, {"start": "02:50:23", "end": "02:50:27", "text": ">> No. No. No. It wasn't. Norse mythology"}, {"start": "02:50:25", "end": "02:50:29", "text": "is Yeah, that's a because the the the"}, {"start": "02:50:27", "end": "02:50:31", "text": "dragon is eating the entire universe in"}, {"start": "02:50:29", "end": "02:50:32", "text": "Norse in Norse mythology."}, {"start": "02:50:31", "end": "02:50:36", "text": "Um,"}, {"start": "02:50:32", "end": "02:50:37", "text": "yeah, it's it's interesting. No, but it"}, {"start": "02:50:36", "end": "02:50:38", "text": "Yeah, I mean it was a"}, {"start": "02:50:37", "end": "02:50:39", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "02:50:38", "end": "02:50:42", "text": ">> It's funny to say a positive thing in"}, {"start": "02:50:39", "end": "02:50:45", "text": "Mesoamerica. Dr. Barnhart and I were in"}, {"start": "02:50:42", "end": "02:50:46", "text": "we're in Mexico City at the museum and"}, {"start": "02:50:45", "end": "02:50:48", "text": "we're looking up at this you know, so"}, {"start": "02:50:46", "end": "02:50:50", "text": "they have they'll have like modern"}, {"start": "02:50:48", "end": "02:50:51", "text": "indigenous people who"}, {"start": "02:50:50", "end": "02:50:53", "text": "you know, still carry on the artistic"}, {"start": "02:50:51", "end": "02:50:56", "text": "traditions, but they'll have these"}, {"start": "02:50:53", "end": "02:50:57", "text": "massive murals painted and so there's a"}, {"start": "02:50:56", "end": "02:50:59", "text": "there's this mural that's like a modern"}, {"start": "02:50:57", "end": "02:51:02", "text": "interpretation of the whole pantheon of"}, {"start": "02:50:59", "end": "02:51:04", "text": "Maya gods interacting with each other."}, {"start": "02:51:02", "end": "02:51:05", "text": "And Dr. Barnhart he's like he's like he"}, {"start": "02:51:04", "end": "02:51:06", "text": "goes he goes You know what's"}, {"start": "02:51:05", "end": "02:51:09", "text": "interesting?"}, {"start": "02:51:06", "end": "02:51:10", "text": "Where's all the love in Mesoamerica? And"}, {"start": "02:51:09", "end": "02:51:12", "text": "[laughter] cuz it's all about like death"}, {"start": "02:51:10", "end": "02:51:16", "text": "and war and destruction. And he goes he"}, {"start": "02:51:12", "end": "02:51:18", "text": "goes their their whole"}, {"start": "02:51:16", "end": "02:51:20", "text": "religion their whole culture is so"}, {"start": "02:51:18", "end": "02:51:23", "text": "macabre and dark and about killing"}, {"start": "02:51:20", "end": "02:51:24", "text": "people and sacrifices and war and he's"}, {"start": "02:51:23", "end": "02:51:26", "text": "like"}, {"start": "02:51:24", "end": "02:51:27", "text": "where's all the love? There might you"}, {"start": "02:51:26", "end": "02:51:30", "text": "know, he's he's alluding to the fact"}, {"start": "02:51:27", "end": "02:51:31", "text": "that there are levels of their culture"}, {"start": "02:51:30", "end": "02:51:32", "text": "that are invisible to us. It was"}, {"start": "02:51:31", "end": "02:51:34", "text": "definitely there. You know, these"}, {"start": "02:51:32", "end": "02:51:37", "text": "weren't like dark brooding evil people,"}, {"start": "02:51:34", "end": "02:51:38", "text": "but when you say was it positive? It's"}, {"start": "02:51:37", "end": "02:51:39", "text": "like that's funny in Mesoamerica. It's"}, {"start": "02:51:38", "end": "02:51:41", "text": "hard to know if anything's positive."}, {"start": "02:51:39", "end": "02:51:42", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "02:51:41", "end": "02:51:44", "text": "But yeah, I mean I would say it's a"}, {"start": "02:51:42", "end": "02:51:46", "text": "positive thing for the civilization"}, {"start": "02:51:44", "end": "02:51:49", "text": "itself. Like if your ruler is the human"}, {"start": "02:51:46", "end": "02:51:50", "text": "embodiment of a freaking dragon. Yeah,"}, {"start": "02:51:49", "end": "02:51:51", "text": "you know, you you you would like to"}, {"start": "02:51:50", "end": "02:51:53", "text": "think you're being ruled over by"}, {"start": "02:51:51", "end": "02:51:54", "text": "somebody who's extremely powerful,"}, {"start": "02:51:53", "end": "02:51:56", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "02:51:54", "end": "02:52:00", "text": "But the dragon especially in China the"}, {"start": "02:51:56", "end": "02:52:03", "text": "dragon is not a foe. It's not a monster"}, {"start": "02:52:00", "end": "02:52:06", "text": "to be slayed. It's uh"}, {"start": "02:52:03", "end": "02:52:08", "text": "is an embodiment of"}, {"start": "02:52:06", "end": "02:52:09", "text": "well, in China is actually the dragon is"}, {"start": "02:52:08", "end": "02:52:11", "text": "actually in"}, {"start": "02:52:09", "end": "02:52:13", "text": "an amalgamation"}, {"start": "02:52:11", "end": "02:52:15", "text": "of all the animals of their world. So"}, {"start": "02:52:13", "end": "02:52:18", "text": "it's like a it's like a a tiger and a"}, {"start": "02:52:15", "end": "02:52:20", "text": "camel and eagles and all these animals"}, {"start": "02:52:18", "end": "02:52:23", "text": "brought in together into this"}, {"start": "02:52:20", "end": "02:52:26", "text": "strange creature. Um but yeah, you know,"}, {"start": "02:52:23", "end": "02:52:29", "text": "I I often wonder how many times"}, {"start": "02:52:26", "end": "02:52:31", "text": "in the ancient world the answer to so"}, {"start": "02:52:29", "end": "02:52:33", "text": "many of our questions"}, {"start": "02:52:31", "end": "02:52:36", "text": "can only be acquired by"}, {"start": "02:52:33", "end": "02:52:38", "text": "leaving this world. You know, it you can"}, {"start": "02:52:36", "end": "02:52:40", "text": "only answer the question by"}, {"start": "02:52:38", "end": "02:52:42", "text": "going through the"}, {"start": "02:52:40", "end": "02:52:43", "text": "by going through the mysteries, to be"}, {"start": "02:52:42", "end": "02:52:44", "text": "honest with you. That's actually what I"}, {"start": "02:52:43", "end": "02:52:46", "text": "think it is. That like the cult of the"}, {"start": "02:52:44", "end": "02:52:48", "text": "cult of Eleusis, the Egyptian mysteries"}, {"start": "02:52:46", "end": "02:52:50", "text": "that Herodotus writes about. He writes"}, {"start": "02:52:48", "end": "02:52:52", "text": "about it all the time and then when he"}, {"start": "02:52:50", "end": "02:52:53", "text": "gets initiated into the mysteries, he"}, {"start": "02:52:52", "end": "02:52:56", "text": "doesn't write about it anywhere because"}, {"start": "02:52:53", "end": "02:52:57", "text": "he can't he can't reveal it. And so"}, {"start": "02:52:56", "end": "02:53:00", "text": "you know the Chinese had the mysteries."}, {"start": "02:52:57", "end": "02:53:02", "text": "You know the Maya had them. I've stood"}, {"start": "02:53:00", "end": "02:53:03", "text": "in the chambers where they're performed."}, {"start": "02:53:02", "end": "02:53:06", "text": "And you And it all starts with the"}, {"start": "02:53:03", "end": "02:53:08", "text": "Olmecs. There's actually a depiction of"}, {"start": "02:53:06", "end": "02:53:10", "text": "one of the And when I say mysteries for"}, {"start": "02:53:08", "end": "02:53:11", "text": "people watching, it's different than"}, {"start": "02:53:10", "end": "02:53:13", "text": "like"}, {"start": "02:53:11", "end": "02:53:15", "text": "how were the pyramids built? A mystery"}, {"start": "02:53:13", "end": "02:53:17", "text": "is"}, {"start": "02:53:15", "end": "02:53:21", "text": "almost like the religious organization"}, {"start": "02:53:17", "end": "02:53:24", "text": "that safeholds sacred"}, {"start": "02:53:21", "end": "02:53:26", "text": "cosmological, scientific, astronomical,"}, {"start": "02:53:24", "end": "02:53:29", "text": "astrological"}, {"start": "02:53:26", "end": "02:53:31", "text": "knowledge that's all fused together and"}, {"start": "02:53:29", "end": "02:53:34", "text": "it These are the people who preserve and"}, {"start": "02:53:31", "end": "02:53:36", "text": "safe keep and try to uphold the very"}, {"start": "02:53:34", "end": "02:53:38", "text": "universe itself by carrying out these"}, {"start": "02:53:36", "end": "02:53:39", "text": "rituals and you know, we don't exactly"}, {"start": "02:53:38", "end": "02:53:40", "text": "know what they were doing but"}, {"start": "02:53:39", "end": "02:53:42", "text": ">> No, but you're describing like a"}, {"start": "02:53:40", "end": "02:53:43", "text": "familial shamanistic culture that you're"}, {"start": "02:53:42", "end": "02:53:45", "text": "passing down the secrets of the"}, {"start": "02:53:43", "end": "02:53:48", "text": "universe. So so those So those are"}, {"start": "02:53:45", "end": "02:53:50", "text": "called the mysteries. And every ancient"}, {"start": "02:53:48", "end": "02:53:52", "text": "culture has them and rather than most"}, {"start": "02:53:50", "end": "02:53:54", "text": "archaeologists who look back and"}, {"start": "02:53:52", "end": "02:53:55", "text": "you know, no archaeologist going to like"}, {"start": "02:53:54", "end": "02:53:57", "text": "openly say, \"Oh yeah, that's the way I"}, {"start": "02:53:55", "end": "02:53:59", "text": "feel.\" But I think that I think so many"}, {"start": "02:53:57", "end": "02:54:01", "text": "of them just implicitly think that"}, {"start": "02:53:59", "end": "02:54:02", "text": "ancient people"}, {"start": "02:54:01", "end": "02:54:05", "text": "were"}, {"start": "02:54:02", "end": "02:54:07", "text": "naive and that their ancient religions"}, {"start": "02:54:05", "end": "02:54:10", "text": "were just like hokey and they were a way"}, {"start": "02:54:07", "end": "02:54:13", "text": "to manipulate the common man and that it"}, {"start": "02:54:10", "end": "02:54:14", "text": "was all sort of like a you know, people"}, {"start": "02:54:13", "end": "02:54:16", "text": "coming and leaving"}, {"start": "02:54:14", "end": "02:54:17", "text": "offerings to dead people like leaving"}, {"start": "02:54:16", "end": "02:54:18", "text": "food. They they say that the priests"}, {"start": "02:54:17", "end": "02:54:20", "text": "would just take the food just to feed"}, {"start": "02:54:18", "end": "02:54:23", "text": "themselves. Like it was all"}, {"start": "02:54:20", "end": "02:54:26", "text": "it was all hoax but man, look throughout"}, {"start": "02:54:23", "end": "02:54:28", "text": "the entire ancient world at a 1000 BC,"}, {"start": "02:54:26", "end": "02:54:30", "text": "the entire ancient world is populated"}, {"start": "02:54:28", "end": "02:54:31", "text": "with massive civilizations all doing"}, {"start": "02:54:30", "end": "02:54:34", "text": "roughly the same thing."}, {"start": "02:54:31", "end": "02:54:35", "text": ">> That's true. And um"}, {"start": "02:54:34", "end": "02:54:36", "text": "And I don't think that that's just"}, {"start": "02:54:35", "end": "02:54:38", "text": "because all these people are dumb. I"}, {"start": "02:54:36", "end": "02:54:40", "text": "think that they"}, {"start": "02:54:38", "end": "02:54:42", "text": "One of the one of the coolest quotes I"}, {"start": "02:54:40", "end": "02:54:44", "text": "ever heard was uh from the Professor"}, {"start": "02:54:42", "end": "02:54:47", "text": "Jeremy McInerney and he was talking"}, {"start": "02:54:44", "end": "02:54:48", "text": "about the Temple of Apollo at Delphi and"}, {"start": "02:54:47", "end": "02:54:50", "text": "he was he's like, \"I'm not going to get"}, {"start": "02:54:48", "end": "02:54:52", "text": "overly into this in in this lecture and"}, {"start": "02:54:50", "end": "02:54:53", "text": "uh and he's like he's like, but I'm just"}, {"start": "02:54:52", "end": "02:54:57", "text": "going to say this. I don't mean this in"}, {"start": "02:54:53", "end": "02:54:58", "text": "any sort of metaphorical way or"}, {"start": "02:54:57", "end": "02:55:00", "text": "uh"}, {"start": "02:54:58", "end": "02:55:01", "text": "I don't mean it in a symbolic or he said"}, {"start": "02:55:00", "end": "02:55:02", "text": "he said, \"I don't mean this in any sort"}, {"start": "02:55:01", "end": "02:55:04", "text": "of symbolic or metaphorical way. I mean"}, {"start": "02:55:02", "end": "02:55:05", "text": "this in a literal way and I'll just"}, {"start": "02:55:04", "end": "02:55:08", "text": "leave it at that."}, {"start": "02:55:05", "end": "02:55:10", "text": "When the Oracle of Delphi was possessed"}, {"start": "02:55:08", "end": "02:55:11", "text": "by the essence of Apollo, she was"}, {"start": "02:55:10", "end": "02:55:13", "text": "actually possessed by the by the essence"}, {"start": "02:55:11", "end": "02:55:14", "text": "of Apollo.\""}, {"start": "02:55:13", "end": "02:55:17", "text": "Uh he just leaves it at that. This is"}, {"start": "02:55:14", "end": "02:55:19", "text": "like a credentialed world-class Greek"}, {"start": "02:55:17", "end": "02:55:20", "text": "archaeologist and he just leaves it at"}, {"start": "02:55:19", "end": "02:55:23", "text": "that. I've never ever heard him"}, {"start": "02:55:20", "end": "02:55:24", "text": "extrapolate on that before and I I don't"}, {"start": "02:55:23", "end": "02:55:25", "text": "know what I don't know what exactly he's"}, {"start": "02:55:24", "end": "02:55:27", "text": "getting at there."}, {"start": "02:55:25", "end": "02:55:29", "text": "Um I don't know if if he means that So"}, {"start": "02:55:27", "end": "02:55:32", "text": "you mean the gases within the mountain"}, {"start": "02:55:29", "end": "02:55:33", "text": "that gave her visions? Yeah, yeah. I"}, {"start": "02:55:32", "end": "02:55:35", "text": "I think he just means Yeah, I think he"}, {"start": "02:55:33", "end": "02:55:36", "text": "just means that"}, {"start": "02:55:35", "end": "02:55:38", "text": "that"}, {"start": "02:55:36", "end": "02:55:42", "text": "I don't think he he's saying that he"}, {"start": "02:55:38", "end": "02:55:42", "text": "actually believes that Apollo is real."}, {"start": "02:55:43", "end": "02:55:48", "text": "I think he's just saying"}, {"start": "02:55:45", "end": "02:55:50", "text": "that the Oracle was actually chan- is"}, {"start": "02:55:48", "end": "02:55:52", "text": "there's something real there's a real"}, {"start": "02:55:50", "end": "02:55:53", "text": "element to that and he just kind of"}, {"start": "02:55:52", "end": "02:55:54", "text": "leaves it at that."}, {"start": "02:55:53", "end": "02:55:56", "text": ">> that's a psychedelic experience."}, {"start": "02:55:54", "end": "02:55:58", "text": ">> Yeah, yeah. And um you know, and the"}, {"start": "02:55:56", "end": "02:56:00", "text": "question is when you when you're taking"}, {"start": "02:55:58", "end": "02:56:03", "text": "part in psychedelics, are you actually"}, {"start": "02:56:00", "end": "02:56:04", "text": "interacting with something or are we all"}, {"start": "02:56:03", "end": "02:56:07", "text": "wired the same way to interact with"}, {"start": "02:56:04", "end": "02:56:08", "text": "plants the same way or when you interact"}, {"start": "02:56:07", "end": "02:56:09", "text": "with that plant, are you stepping into"}, {"start": "02:56:08", "end": "02:56:11", "text": "something else?"}, {"start": "02:56:09", "end": "02:56:11", "text": ">> What do you think? Have you taken the"}, {"start": "02:56:11", "end": "02:56:14", "text": "journey yet?"}, {"start": "02:56:11", "end": "02:56:17", "text": ">> Oh, no. I mean not I not I I have a I"}, {"start": "02:56:14", "end": "02:56:19", "text": "have a very low tolerance to like"}, {"start": "02:56:17", "end": "02:56:21", "text": "cannabis and so, you know, in in"}, {"start": "02:56:19", "end": "02:56:22", "text": "extremely strong doses that that's been"}, {"start": "02:56:21", "end": "02:56:24", "text": "enough for me. You know, you're going to"}, {"start": "02:56:22", "end": "02:56:26", "text": "have to walk the walk at some point."}, {"start": "02:56:24", "end": "02:56:29", "text": ">> Yeah, yeah. See, the thing for me is I"}, {"start": "02:56:26", "end": "02:56:31", "text": "don't want to go visit the serpent until"}, {"start": "02:56:29", "end": "02:56:32", "text": "it calls me. I feel like if I do that,"}, {"start": "02:56:31", "end": "02:56:34", "text": "I'm going to like"}, {"start": "02:56:32", "end": "02:56:34", "text": "mess up my brain in some way. I got to"}, {"start": "02:56:34", "end": "02:56:35", "text": "wait"}, {"start": "02:56:34", "end": "02:56:36", "text": ">> Probably smart."}, {"start": "02:56:35", "end": "02:56:38", "text": ">> Yeah, I got to wait till I I got to wait"}, {"start": "02:56:36", "end": "02:56:40", "text": "till it calls me."}, {"start": "02:56:38", "end": "02:56:41", "text": "But I I will do it. I will do it at some"}, {"start": "02:56:40", "end": "02:56:43", "text": "point, but it just has to be the right"}, {"start": "02:56:41", "end": "02:56:45", "text": "the right time. Right now, I don't feel"}, {"start": "02:56:43", "end": "02:56:46", "text": "the need to do it."}, {"start": "02:56:45", "end": "02:56:48", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "02:56:46", "end": "02:56:50", "text": "But uh"}, {"start": "02:56:48", "end": "02:56:52", "text": "Yeah, I've I've"}, {"start": "02:56:50", "end": "02:56:53", "text": "My friends and I talk about this a lot"}, {"start": "02:56:52", "end": "02:56:54", "text": "and um"}, {"start": "02:56:53", "end": "02:56:56", "text": "I need to I need to put together a"}, {"start": "02:56:54", "end": "02:56:57", "text": "presentation like really put in my"}, {"start": "02:56:56", "end": "02:57:01", "text": "thoughts together on this, too, cuz I've"}, {"start": "02:56:57", "end": "02:57:01", "text": "I've juggled it around for so long."}, {"start": "02:57:02", "end": "02:57:07", "text": "But I'm I'm comfortable saying it. I I"}, {"start": "02:57:04", "end": "02:57:08", "text": "think that"}, {"start": "02:57:07", "end": "02:57:10", "text": "I think that like when people go down to"}, {"start": "02:57:08", "end": "02:57:12", "text": "the Amazon and they say that they meet"}, {"start": "02:57:10", "end": "02:57:15", "text": "some kind of female Amazonian goddess or"}, {"start": "02:57:12", "end": "02:57:18", "text": "they interact with the snake that coils"}, {"start": "02:57:15", "end": "02:57:20", "text": "around them and speaks to them."}, {"start": "02:57:18", "end": "02:57:21", "text": "I think in some way"}, {"start": "02:57:20", "end": "02:57:23", "text": "that is"}, {"start": "02:57:21", "end": "02:57:25", "text": "two things at once. Like in the same way"}, {"start": "02:57:23", "end": "02:57:27", "text": "that like"}, {"start": "02:57:25", "end": "02:57:28", "text": "it Are we all just Forrest Gump has a"}, {"start": "02:57:27", "end": "02:57:30", "text": "has a great line a"}, {"start": "02:57:28", "end": "02:57:31", "text": "deep profound line where he says he's"}, {"start": "02:57:30", "end": "02:57:33", "text": "like he's like I wonder if we're all"}, {"start": "02:57:31", "end": "02:57:34", "text": "just out here on this, you know, rock"}, {"start": "02:57:33", "end": "02:57:36", "text": "kind of like floating through the air or"}, {"start": "02:57:34", "end": "02:57:38", "text": "if it's all destined to be and he's"}, {"start": "02:57:36", "end": "02:57:40", "text": "like, I think maybe it's both in some"}, {"start": "02:57:38", "end": "02:57:42", "text": "way. That's what I think. I think that I"}, {"start": "02:57:40", "end": "02:57:45", "text": "think that the cosmos"}, {"start": "02:57:42", "end": "02:57:47", "text": "is so much more intertwined"}, {"start": "02:57:45", "end": "02:57:50", "text": "and so much more purposeful and larger"}, {"start": "02:57:47", "end": "02:57:52", "text": "and uh than than we can"}, {"start": "02:57:50", "end": "02:57:54", "text": "possibly fathom."}, {"start": "02:57:52", "end": "02:57:56", "text": "And I think that"}, {"start": "02:57:54", "end": "02:57:58", "text": "when people are interacting with things"}, {"start": "02:57:56", "end": "02:58:00", "text": "like that that are on the other side,"}, {"start": "02:57:58", "end": "02:58:02", "text": "I wouldn't be surprised if it's real. I"}, {"start": "02:58:00", "end": "02:58:05", "text": "wouldn't be surprised if if these things"}, {"start": "02:58:02", "end": "02:58:07", "text": "live if there's if there are conscious"}, {"start": "02:58:05", "end": "02:58:09", "text": "beings that exist in some kind of other"}, {"start": "02:58:07", "end": "02:58:12", "text": "parallel dimensions that you're able to"}, {"start": "02:58:09", "end": "02:58:14", "text": "interact with and maybe those beings are"}, {"start": "02:58:12", "end": "02:58:17", "text": "the universe itself or it's a reflection"}, {"start": "02:58:14", "end": "02:58:17", "text": "of us, but Well, do you believe in God?"}, {"start": "02:58:17", "end": "02:58:20", "text": "Yeah, I do. Yeah, yeah."}, {"start": "02:58:17", "end": "02:58:23", "text": ">> So, how how do we square both?"}, {"start": "02:58:20", "end": "02:58:26", "text": "I think that God is uh I think that God"}, {"start": "02:58:23", "end": "02:58:27", "text": "is a lot more um"}, {"start": "02:58:26", "end": "02:58:31", "text": "I think that God's a lot more"}, {"start": "02:58:27", "end": "02:58:33", "text": "complicated than uh like a man floating"}, {"start": "02:58:31", "end": "02:58:35", "text": "on a white cloud in in, you know, some"}, {"start": "02:58:33", "end": "02:58:36", "text": "Renaissance painting. I agree. Uh I"}, {"start": "02:58:35", "end": "02:58:40", "text": "think that"}, {"start": "02:58:36", "end": "02:58:41", "text": "when the Bible talks about like angels"}, {"start": "02:58:40", "end": "02:58:43", "text": "being cast out of heaven and everything,"}, {"start": "02:58:41", "end": "02:58:46", "text": "you know, I we always have this idea of"}, {"start": "02:58:43", "end": "02:58:47", "text": "like demons being this antithesis being"}, {"start": "02:58:46", "end": "02:58:49", "text": "that's just pure evil."}, {"start": "02:58:47", "end": "02:58:51", "text": "Well, I mean"}, {"start": "02:58:49", "end": "02:58:53", "text": "I don't feel like it's unlikely that"}, {"start": "02:58:51", "end": "02:58:56", "text": "some of these ethereal beings exist in"}, {"start": "02:58:53", "end": "02:58:58", "text": "this gray zone that want to be like"}, {"start": "02:58:56", "end": "02:58:59", "text": "maybe they want to be moral or they want"}, {"start": "02:58:58", "end": "02:59:01", "text": "to I'm really getting way off on this,"}, {"start": "02:58:59", "end": "02:59:02", "text": "but you know, maybe maybe they maybe"}, {"start": "02:59:01", "end": "02:59:04", "text": "they want to be moral and maybe they"}, {"start": "02:59:02", "end": "02:59:06", "text": "want to be actually worshipped as a"}, {"start": "02:59:04", "end": "02:59:08", "text": "moral god. And so, you can go down to"}, {"start": "02:59:06", "end": "02:59:09", "text": "the Amazon, you can interact with those."}, {"start": "02:59:08", "end": "02:59:11", "text": "You can interact with those things, and"}, {"start": "02:59:09", "end": "02:59:14", "text": "they're they're really there."}, {"start": "02:59:11", "end": "02:59:16", "text": "Um but I think that I I I agree with"}, {"start": "02:59:14", "end": "02:59:18", "text": "like um"}, {"start": "02:59:16", "end": "02:59:20", "text": "the Greek philosophers, they thought"}, {"start": "02:59:18", "end": "02:59:22", "text": "that logos was at like the core of of"}, {"start": "02:59:20", "end": "02:59:24", "text": "the universe. And that even with all"}, {"start": "02:59:22", "end": "02:59:25", "text": "these other gods, there was something"}, {"start": "02:59:24", "end": "02:59:29", "text": "that existed before that, which was"}, {"start": "02:59:25", "end": "02:59:33", "text": "logic itself. It was it was it was"}, {"start": "02:59:29", "end": "02:59:35", "text": "it was reason. And that reason itself"}, {"start": "02:59:33", "end": "02:59:37", "text": "may have had"}, {"start": "02:59:35", "end": "02:59:40", "text": "they personified it or we personify it,"}, {"start": "02:59:37", "end": "02:59:41", "text": "but they see something at the core of"}, {"start": "02:59:40", "end": "02:59:44", "text": "all of existence"}, {"start": "02:59:41", "end": "02:59:46", "text": "that actively made decisions that were"}, {"start": "02:59:44", "end": "02:59:48", "text": "logical, that created everything."}, {"start": "02:59:46", "end": "02:59:50", "text": "And is that thing conscious or not? It's"}, {"start": "02:59:48", "end": "02:59:51", "text": "probably not conscious in the way that"}, {"start": "02:59:50", "end": "02:59:53", "text": "you and I think about it being"}, {"start": "02:59:51", "end": "02:59:55", "text": "conscious, but it's"}, {"start": "02:59:53", "end": "02:59:57", "text": "I think it's real. And that's what I"}, {"start": "02:59:55", "end": "02:59:59", "text": "think that God is."}, {"start": "02:59:57", "end": "03:00:01", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "02:59:59", "end": "03:00:03", "text": "But yeah, you know, I wrestle with with"}, {"start": "03:00:01", "end": "03:00:04", "text": "like"}, {"start": "03:00:03", "end": "03:00:06", "text": "you know, what do I think of"}, {"start": "03:00:04", "end": "03:00:08", "text": "interdimensional beings? I'm not talking"}, {"start": "03:00:06", "end": "03:00:10", "text": "about aliens, but like, you know,"}, {"start": "03:00:08", "end": "03:00:12", "text": "spiritual beings and how people interact"}, {"start": "03:00:10", "end": "03:00:14", "text": "with them. I Sometimes I"}, {"start": "03:00:12", "end": "03:00:16", "text": "Sometimes I wrestle with that and like"}, {"start": "03:00:14", "end": "03:00:19", "text": "Christianity, but uh Well, people are"}, {"start": "03:00:16", "end": "03:00:21", "text": "seeing the same things under DMT"}, {"start": "03:00:19", "end": "03:00:22", "text": "experiences and"}, {"start": "03:00:21", "end": "03:00:24", "text": "they are seeing the same things. Maybe"}, {"start": "03:00:22", "end": "03:00:26", "text": "it's cuz our brains are the same"}, {"start": "03:00:24", "end": "03:00:28", "text": "or maybe they're seeing something."}, {"start": "03:00:26", "end": "03:00:31", "text": "Yeah, well, and then you know, when I"}, {"start": "03:00:28", "end": "03:00:33", "text": "when I have a straight-up vision about"}, {"start": "03:00:31", "end": "03:00:36", "text": "my grandfather's death and my last"}, {"start": "03:00:33", "end": "03:00:38", "text": "moment with him, where what is that? You"}, {"start": "03:00:36", "end": "03:00:39", "text": "know, that's not"}, {"start": "03:00:38", "end": "03:00:41", "text": "that's not a coincidence of me being"}, {"start": "03:00:39", "end": "03:00:43", "text": "wired like a human, you know, that's No,"}, {"start": "03:00:41", "end": "03:00:43", "text": "that's you connected to something"}, {"start": "03:00:43", "end": "03:00:44", "text": "bigger."}, {"start": "03:00:43", "end": "03:00:46", "text": ">> That's That's me connected to to"}, {"start": "03:00:44", "end": "03:00:48", "text": "something larger. All ancient people"}, {"start": "03:00:46", "end": "03:00:50", "text": "felt this way."}, {"start": "03:00:48", "end": "03:00:51", "text": "All ancient people"}, {"start": "03:00:50", "end": "03:00:53", "text": "um"}, {"start": "03:00:51", "end": "03:00:54", "text": "you know, were were were I don't know if"}, {"start": "03:00:53", "end": "03:00:57", "text": "religious is the right word, but"}, {"start": "03:00:54", "end": "03:00:59", "text": "spiritual. They I think that ancient"}, {"start": "03:00:57", "end": "03:01:01", "text": "people were very"}, {"start": "03:00:59", "end": "03:01:03", "text": "open and connected to something that"}, {"start": "03:01:01", "end": "03:01:05", "text": "we're so like"}, {"start": "03:01:03", "end": "03:01:08", "text": "calloused and cut off from these days."}, {"start": "03:01:05", "end": "03:01:09", "text": "Our world has for all of the benefits"}, {"start": "03:01:08", "end": "03:01:11", "text": "that"}, {"start": "03:01:09", "end": "03:01:13", "text": "modernity has brought to us with"}, {"start": "03:01:11", "end": "03:01:15", "text": "science, everything has also become so"}, {"start": "03:01:13", "end": "03:01:16", "text": "sterile. And I think that there's a"}, {"start": "03:01:15", "end": "03:01:18", "text": "there's a great quote. I don't know who"}, {"start": "03:01:16", "end": "03:01:20", "text": "who said it, but uh he says he's like"}, {"start": "03:01:18", "end": "03:01:21", "text": "he's like the first sip from the glass"}, {"start": "03:01:20", "end": "03:01:24", "text": "of science will make you an atheist, but"}, {"start": "03:01:21", "end": "03:01:25", "text": "at the bottom God's waiting for you. And"}, {"start": "03:01:24", "end": "03:01:27", "text": "uh you know, you there are so many"}, {"start": "03:01:25", "end": "03:01:29", "text": "people like Stephen Hawking. I don't"}, {"start": "03:01:27", "end": "03:01:30", "text": "think he admitted at the end of his life"}, {"start": "03:01:29", "end": "03:01:32", "text": "that uh"}, {"start": "03:01:30", "end": "03:01:34", "text": "that that God was real, but one of the"}, {"start": "03:01:32", "end": "03:01:35", "text": "last"}, {"start": "03:01:34", "end": "03:01:38", "text": "uh something he talks about in one of"}, {"start": "03:01:35", "end": "03:01:39", "text": "his last publications was that he could"}, {"start": "03:01:38", "end": "03:01:42", "text": "It was something along the lines of like"}, {"start": "03:01:39", "end": "03:01:44", "text": "he couldn't see any other way"}, {"start": "03:01:42", "end": "03:01:45", "text": "uh other than the fact that the universe"}, {"start": "03:01:44", "end": "03:01:48", "text": "was able to consciously make decisions"}, {"start": "03:01:45", "end": "03:01:49", "text": "on its own."}, {"start": "03:01:48", "end": "03:01:52", "text": "That's God to me. Prove him wrong."}, {"start": "03:01:49", "end": "03:01:53", "text": ">> Yeah, yeah. That's That's God to me. So,"}, {"start": "03:01:52", "end": "03:01:55", "text": "um"}, {"start": "03:01:53", "end": "03:01:57", "text": "Yeah, but it's it's tough to it's tough"}, {"start": "03:01:55", "end": "03:01:58", "text": "to juggle these things and rationalize"}, {"start": "03:01:57", "end": "03:02:00", "text": "them together. But I think you're right."}, {"start": "03:01:58", "end": "03:02:01", "text": "I think native people, especially in the"}, {"start": "03:02:00", "end": "03:02:04", "text": "Americas, just were much closer to"}, {"start": "03:02:01", "end": "03:02:05", "text": "whatever that realm is. Oh, yeah, man."}, {"start": "03:02:04", "end": "03:02:07", "text": ">> they respected it."}, {"start": "03:02:05", "end": "03:02:10", "text": ">> there's a there's a great book that's"}, {"start": "03:02:07", "end": "03:02:10", "text": "written by um"}, {"start": "03:02:11", "end": "03:02:15", "text": "Oh,"}, {"start": "03:02:13", "end": "03:02:17", "text": "I'm forgetting his name, but um it'll"}, {"start": "03:02:15", "end": "03:02:19", "text": "come to me in just a moment. But uh he"}, {"start": "03:02:17", "end": "03:02:21", "text": "was a Spaniard that was born in Cusco in"}, {"start": "03:02:19", "end": "03:02:23", "text": "the"}, {"start": "03:02:21", "end": "03:02:24", "text": "mid-early"}, {"start": "03:02:23", "end": "03:02:25", "text": "1500s."}, {"start": "03:02:24", "end": "03:02:29", "text": "He [snorts] was the daughter of a"}, {"start": "03:02:25", "end": "03:02:30", "text": "wealthy Spaniard and uh and I'm sorry,"}, {"start": "03:02:29", "end": "03:02:33", "text": "he was the son of a wealthy Spaniard and"}, {"start": "03:02:30", "end": "03:02:36", "text": "the son of an Inca princess."}, {"start": "03:02:33", "end": "03:02:39", "text": "Um very famous book uh but it's called a"}, {"start": "03:02:36", "end": "03:02:41", "text": "royal account of the Incas."}, {"start": "03:02:39", "end": "03:02:42", "text": "And it's basically him I I In his early"}, {"start": "03:02:41", "end": "03:02:44", "text": "20s, he left and went back to Spain to"}, {"start": "03:02:42", "end": "03:02:46", "text": "like reclaim his family's wealth and"}, {"start": "03:02:44", "end": "03:02:48", "text": "everything. And when he's an old man, he"}, {"start": "03:02:46", "end": "03:02:49", "text": "writes about his experiences"}, {"start": "03:02:48", "end": "03:02:50", "text": "um"}, {"start": "03:02:49", "end": "03:02:53", "text": "growing up in Cusco and all the things"}, {"start": "03:02:50", "end": "03:02:55", "text": "that he learned. And uh man, Cusco is an"}, {"start": "03:02:53", "end": "03:02:57", "text": "amazing place. Have you been? No."}, {"start": "03:02:55", "end": "03:02:58", "text": "Just think about it right now. I'm I'm"}, {"start": "03:02:57", "end": "03:02:59", "text": "going back in the summer. I just can't"}, {"start": "03:02:58", "end": "03:03:00", "text": "wait to go back. It's one of the one of"}, {"start": "03:02:59", "end": "03:03:02", "text": "the greatest cities on the planet."}, {"start": "03:03:00", "end": "03:03:03", "text": ">> Is it That's And that's the heart of the"}, {"start": "03:03:02", "end": "03:03:04", "text": "Incan Empire, yes?"}, {"start": "03:03:03", "end": "03:03:06", "text": ">> Yeah, yeah, it's the navel of the Inca"}, {"start": "03:03:04", "end": "03:03:07", "text": "world. And um"}, {"start": "03:03:06", "end": "03:03:08", "text": "you know, they they thought it was the"}, {"start": "03:03:07", "end": "03:03:09", "text": "like the center of the universe itself,"}, {"start": "03:03:08", "end": "03:03:10", "text": "you know?"}, {"start": "03:03:09", "end": "03:03:12", "text": "It's"}, {"start": "03:03:10", "end": "03:03:14", "text": "There's no place that's like Cusco. It's"}, {"start": "03:03:12", "end": "03:03:17", "text": "amazing. And the people there are so"}, {"start": "03:03:14", "end": "03:03:19", "text": "nice. The Inca people and and like just"}, {"start": "03:03:17", "end": "03:03:20", "text": "really, [snorts] really amazing place."}, {"start": "03:03:19", "end": "03:03:20", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "03:03:20", "end": "03:03:20", "text": ">> [clears throat]"}, {"start": "03:03:20", "end": "03:03:23", "text": ">> But uh"}, {"start": "03:03:20", "end": "03:03:24", "text": ">> It's It proves very open to excavation"}, {"start": "03:03:23", "end": "03:03:25", "text": "and their history and all of that as"}, {"start": "03:03:24", "end": "03:03:26", "text": "opposed to"}, {"start": "03:03:25", "end": "03:03:29", "text": ">> yeah, yeah. Well, for a little bit"}, {"start": "03:03:26", "end": "03:03:32", "text": "there, I was the um I was the American"}, {"start": "03:03:29", "end": "03:03:34", "text": "representative to uh to get funding for"}, {"start": "03:03:32", "end": "03:03:38", "text": "the excavation of the Chinkana tunnels."}, {"start": "03:03:34", "end": "03:03:40", "text": "Wouldn't with the when you the MEC?"}, {"start": "03:03:38", "end": "03:03:41", "text": "Uh not not through them. It was just me"}, {"start": "03:03:40", "end": "03:03:43", "text": "working directly with uh Cusco's"}, {"start": "03:03:41", "end": "03:03:44", "text": "Ministry of Antiquities. So, we were"}, {"start": "03:03:43", "end": "03:03:46", "text": "able to we were able to secure some of"}, {"start": "03:03:44", "end": "03:03:47", "text": "the funding for for uh the excavation"}, {"start": "03:03:46", "end": "03:03:49", "text": "that they have for the tunnels that's"}, {"start": "03:03:47", "end": "03:03:51", "text": "there. And we kind of got that off of"}, {"start": "03:03:49", "end": "03:03:54", "text": "the ground. And so, I was like the"}, {"start": "03:03:51", "end": "03:03:55", "text": "English- speaking um"}, {"start": "03:03:54", "end": "03:03:57", "text": "ambassador for them just trying to get"}, {"start": "03:03:55", "end": "03:03:59", "text": "funding to come in to to get the project"}, {"start": "03:03:57", "end": "03:04:00", "text": "off the ground. And now it's going, so"}, {"start": "03:03:59", "end": "03:04:02", "text": "we're going to"}, {"start": "03:04:00", "end": "03:04:06", "text": "uh I'm going to go in and check in with"}, {"start": "03:04:02", "end": "03:04:08", "text": "them um this summer, but so uh um"}, {"start": "03:04:06", "end": "03:04:11", "text": "So this So this uh guy who had grown up"}, {"start": "03:04:08", "end": "03:04:12", "text": "in uh in Cusco, late in his life in"}, {"start": "03:04:11", "end": "03:04:13", "text": "Spain, he's writing about all the things"}, {"start": "03:04:12", "end": "03:04:16", "text": "that he learned about. He's one of the"}, {"start": "03:04:13", "end": "03:04:17", "text": "sources for the uh for the legendary"}, {"start": "03:04:16", "end": "03:04:20", "text": "tunnels that are underneath the city as"}, {"start": "03:04:17", "end": "03:04:20", "text": "well. Um he's got He He alludes to them"}, {"start": "03:04:20", "end": "03:04:22", "text": "and talks about"}, {"start": "03:04:20", "end": "03:04:24", "text": ">> heard of these. This is um the"}, {"start": "03:04:22", "end": "03:04:25", "text": "mysterious Incas or subway tunnels."}, {"start": "03:04:24", "end": "03:04:25", "text": "Wow, so they"}, {"start": "03:04:25", "end": "03:04:27", "text": ">> Wow, they"}, {"start": "03:04:25", "end": "03:04:30", "text": "I've never heard it referred to as"}, {"start": "03:04:27", "end": "03:04:32", "text": "subway tunnels, but uh Clickbait. Yeah,"}, {"start": "03:04:30", "end": "03:04:33", "text": "probably it was uh it was it was"}, {"start": "03:04:32", "end": "03:04:35", "text": "connected to the to the to the Inca"}, {"start": "03:04:33", "end": "03:04:37", "text": "mysteries. You know, you you would they"}, {"start": "03:04:35", "end": "03:04:39", "text": "would probably go under the tunnels and"}, {"start": "03:04:37", "end": "03:04:41", "text": "who knows what would go on down there"}, {"start": "03:04:39", "end": "03:04:43", "text": "and then they Do you could emerge up at"}, {"start": "03:04:41", "end": "03:04:44", "text": "Sacsayhuamán? Like you could go down in"}, {"start": "03:04:43", "end": "03:04:46", "text": "Sacsayhuamán, you go down into the"}, {"start": "03:04:44", "end": "03:04:48", "text": "mountain and you would emerge inside the"}, {"start": "03:04:46", "end": "03:04:50", "text": "city. We don't know if they're if"}, {"start": "03:04:48", "end": "03:04:52", "text": "they're natural tunnels that were"}, {"start": "03:04:50", "end": "03:04:54", "text": "modified or if the Inca themselves made"}, {"start": "03:04:52", "end": "03:04:55", "text": "it, but we know that they were real."}, {"start": "03:04:54", "end": "03:04:56", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "03:04:55", "end": "03:04:58", "text": "But anyways, so he writes about these"}, {"start": "03:04:56", "end": "03:05:02", "text": "tunnels and he also writes about He"}, {"start": "03:04:58", "end": "03:05:04", "text": "tells us how the Incas, which Inca is"}, {"start": "03:05:02", "end": "03:05:05", "text": "actually the term of the ruler. Uh you"}, {"start": "03:05:04", "end": "03:05:07", "text": "know, you"}, {"start": "03:05:05", "end": "03:05:10", "text": "That's the name for the Inca emperor,"}, {"start": "03:05:07", "end": "03:05:11", "text": "right? Um so you had like Manco Inca,"}, {"start": "03:05:10", "end": "03:05:12", "text": "goes on and on and on. I didn't know"}, {"start": "03:05:11", "end": "03:05:14", "text": "that."}, {"start": "03:05:12", "end": "03:05:16", "text": ">> But when it talks about uh"}, {"start": "03:05:14", "end": "03:05:19", "text": "when the"}, {"start": "03:05:16", "end": "03:05:23", "text": "emperor himself would consult with the"}, {"start": "03:05:19", "end": "03:05:25", "text": "sun god, kind of like the pharaoh, Mhm."}, {"start": "03:05:23", "end": "03:05:28", "text": "the teachings that the sun god"}, {"start": "03:05:25", "end": "03:05:30", "text": "instructed the Inca emperor to have to"}, {"start": "03:05:28", "end": "03:05:32", "text": "be a good and moral emperor, which was"}, {"start": "03:05:30", "end": "03:05:33", "text": "such an important thing in all these"}, {"start": "03:05:32", "end": "03:05:35", "text": "ancient civilizations. It's such an"}, {"start": "03:05:33", "end": "03:05:38", "text": "important thing to be a good and moral"}, {"start": "03:05:35", "end": "03:05:41", "text": "person that's in line"}, {"start": "03:05:38", "end": "03:05:42", "text": "Garcilaso de la Vega. There we go. Um I"}, {"start": "03:05:41", "end": "03:05:43", "text": "would have forgot that one, too."}, {"start": "03:05:42", "end": "03:05:45", "text": ">> Royal Royal commentary of the Incas."}, {"start": "03:05:43", "end": "03:05:46", "text": "Yeah, I know, it's a that's a big one."}, {"start": "03:05:45", "end": "03:05:48", "text": "So, um"}, {"start": "03:05:46", "end": "03:05:51", "text": "but [clears throat] he gives us an"}, {"start": "03:05:48", "end": "03:05:52", "text": "account of uh of what he was taught from"}, {"start": "03:05:51", "end": "03:05:54", "text": "his mother's side of the family about,"}, {"start": "03:05:52", "end": "03:05:56", "text": "you know, the the early philosophy of"}, {"start": "03:05:54", "end": "03:05:58", "text": "the Inca kings."}, {"start": "03:05:56", "end": "03:06:01", "text": "And I about a year ago when we got back"}, {"start": "03:05:58", "end": "03:06:03", "text": "from um No, for my birthday my wife got"}, {"start": "03:06:01", "end": "03:06:06", "text": "me"}, {"start": "03:06:03", "end": "03:06:08", "text": "the original printing of that book like"}, {"start": "03:06:06", "end": "03:06:09", "text": "hardback copy. Yeah, it's Original?"}, {"start": "03:06:08", "end": "03:06:11", "text": "Well, well I I don't know why I said"}, {"start": "03:06:09", "end": "03:06:13", "text": "original. Um"}, {"start": "03:06:11", "end": "03:06:14", "text": "They were brought to the US in like the"}, {"start": "03:06:13", "end": "03:06:16", "text": "early 1900s and there was a printing of"}, {"start": "03:06:14", "end": "03:06:17", "text": "them then. Yeah, so"}, {"start": "03:06:16", "end": "03:06:18", "text": "um"}, {"start": "03:06:17", "end": "03:06:20", "text": "So"}, {"start": "03:06:18", "end": "03:06:21", "text": "the original American one they were made"}, {"start": "03:06:20", "end": "03:06:23", "text": "in New York. It's really really cool. It"}, {"start": "03:06:21", "end": "03:06:24", "text": "like deteriorates in my hands every time"}, {"start": "03:06:23", "end": "03:06:25", "text": "I hold it but"}, {"start": "03:06:24", "end": "03:06:28", "text": "so I'm flipping through the pages and I"}, {"start": "03:06:25", "end": "03:06:32", "text": "read the philosophy of of like the"}, {"start": "03:06:28", "end": "03:06:33", "text": "founding of the Inca world. And um"}, {"start": "03:06:32", "end": "03:06:35", "text": "And I'm reading this to her and I tell"}, {"start": "03:06:33", "end": "03:06:37", "text": "her I'm like I'm like how similar does"}, {"start": "03:06:35", "end": "03:06:40", "text": "that sound to Christianity? How similar"}, {"start": "03:06:37", "end": "03:06:42", "text": "does that sound? And she was she had"}, {"start": "03:06:40", "end": "03:06:45", "text": "just come with me to to"}, {"start": "03:06:42", "end": "03:06:47", "text": "to Cusco. She loves the Peruvian people"}, {"start": "03:06:45", "end": "03:06:49", "text": "and um"}, {"start": "03:06:47", "end": "03:06:51", "text": "You know, you could just see how kind"}, {"start": "03:06:49", "end": "03:06:52", "text": "that they were and it's almost like"}, {"start": "03:06:51", "end": "03:06:54", "text": "you know, it was like they were"}, {"start": "03:06:52", "end": "03:06:57", "text": "connected to goodness. They're just"}, {"start": "03:06:54", "end": "03:06:58", "text": "good-hearted people. And"}, {"start": "03:06:57", "end": "03:06:59", "text": "and I was telling her I was like I was"}, {"start": "03:06:58", "end": "03:07:01", "text": "like"}, {"start": "03:06:59", "end": "03:07:03", "text": "I was like it just doesn't make sense to"}, {"start": "03:07:01", "end": "03:07:04", "text": "me that if that if God's real that he"}, {"start": "03:07:03", "end": "03:07:05", "text": "didn't have a relationship with these"}, {"start": "03:07:04", "end": "03:07:07", "text": "people."}, {"start": "03:07:05", "end": "03:07:09", "text": "If if these if these teachings seem so"}, {"start": "03:07:07", "end": "03:07:11", "text": "similar to everything we know you know"}, {"start": "03:07:09", "end": "03:07:13", "text": "what goodness is. You know what it means"}, {"start": "03:07:11", "end": "03:07:15", "text": "to be good. You can"}, {"start": "03:07:13", "end": "03:07:18", "text": "you can feel it when when like there's a"}, {"start": "03:07:15", "end": "03:07:20", "text": "reason that all these philosophers come"}, {"start": "03:07:18", "end": "03:07:22", "text": "up with these rules of life and ways to"}, {"start": "03:07:20", "end": "03:07:24", "text": "treat each other because inherently we"}, {"start": "03:07:22", "end": "03:07:27", "text": "know what's good and what's not and you"}, {"start": "03:07:24", "end": "03:07:28", "text": "have this and if you're connected to"}, {"start": "03:07:27", "end": "03:07:30", "text": "that, that's what I feel like you being"}, {"start": "03:07:28", "end": "03:07:32", "text": "connected to God is. I"}, {"start": "03:07:30", "end": "03:07:33", "text": "Cuz we don't need the 10 Commandments."}, {"start": "03:07:32", "end": "03:07:33", "text": "We already know."}, {"start": "03:07:33", "end": "03:07:34", "text": ">> [clears throat]"}, {"start": "03:07:33", "end": "03:07:38", "text": ">> Yeah, and and you know and you know the"}, {"start": "03:07:34", "end": "03:07:40", "text": "reality is there's no sense in even"}, {"start": "03:07:38", "end": "03:07:42", "text": "trying to have an argument for morality"}, {"start": "03:07:40", "end": "03:07:45", "text": "if you don't believe in something higher"}, {"start": "03:07:42", "end": "03:07:46", "text": "than just humanity. You there's no"}, {"start": "03:07:45", "end": "03:07:48", "text": "there's nothing you can come up there's"}, {"start": "03:07:46", "end": "03:07:50", "text": "no actual argument philosophical"}, {"start": "03:07:48", "end": "03:07:52", "text": "argument you can come up with for why"}, {"start": "03:07:50", "end": "03:07:53", "text": "anybody should even care about how we"}, {"start": "03:07:52", "end": "03:07:55", "text": "treat each other if you don't believe"}, {"start": "03:07:53", "end": "03:07:56", "text": "anything higher than this"}, {"start": "03:07:55", "end": "03:07:57", "text": "three-dimensional realm."}, {"start": "03:07:56", "end": "03:08:00", "text": ">> That's true. You know, there you can you"}, {"start": "03:07:57", "end": "03:08:02", "text": "can try and you And the only reason they"}, {"start": "03:08:00", "end": "03:08:04", "text": "try is because they feel it, too. We all"}, {"start": "03:08:02", "end": "03:08:07", "text": "feel the pull to be, you know, the pull"}, {"start": "03:08:04", "end": "03:08:07", "text": "to be good. We know what that means. And"}, {"start": "03:08:07", "end": "03:08:09", "text": "um"}, {"start": "03:08:07", "end": "03:08:11", "text": ">> I I believe very few atheists are truly"}, {"start": "03:08:09", "end": "03:08:13", "text": "atheist down deep. I think everyone"}, {"start": "03:08:11", "end": "03:08:14", "text": "believes something."}, {"start": "03:08:13", "end": "03:08:15", "text": "I don't want to speak for everybody, but"}, {"start": "03:08:14", "end": "03:08:15", "text": "I think there are a lot of people who"}, {"start": "03:08:15", "end": "03:08:17", "text": ">> [clears throat]"}, {"start": "03:08:15", "end": "03:08:18", "text": ">> say, \"I don't believe in God.\" They kind"}, {"start": "03:08:17", "end": "03:08:20", "text": "of believe in something."}, {"start": "03:08:18", "end": "03:08:22", "text": "Yeah, yeah. That's That's all of my"}, {"start": "03:08:20", "end": "03:08:25", "text": "interactions I've had with with people"}, {"start": "03:08:22", "end": "03:08:26", "text": "who don't believe in God, but then you"}, {"start": "03:08:25", "end": "03:08:27", "text": "really start talking to them about it"}, {"start": "03:08:26", "end": "03:08:29", "text": "and they're like, \"Well, okay. Well,"}, {"start": "03:08:27", "end": "03:08:30", "text": "yeah. I mean, I Yeah, I recognize"}, {"start": "03:08:29", "end": "03:08:32", "text": "there's there's got to be something"}, {"start": "03:08:30", "end": "03:08:34", "text": "that's like more than all, you know,"}, {"start": "03:08:32", "end": "03:08:35", "text": "you'll get that.\" Um"}, {"start": "03:08:34", "end": "03:08:36", "text": "but I think that's how everybody is"}, {"start": "03:08:35", "end": "03:08:38", "text": "because we all recognize it. There's so"}, {"start": "03:08:36", "end": "03:08:40", "text": "many things about our existence. I"}, {"start": "03:08:38", "end": "03:08:42", "text": "actually think it feels A few years ago"}, {"start": "03:08:40", "end": "03:08:44", "text": "I had this I had this thought that I was"}, {"start": "03:08:42", "end": "03:08:44", "text": "like"}, {"start": "03:08:45", "end": "03:08:49", "text": "it feels so much more likely"}, {"start": "03:08:47", "end": "03:08:52", "text": "that you and I"}, {"start": "03:08:49", "end": "03:08:54", "text": "were always intended to exist"}, {"start": "03:08:52", "end": "03:08:56", "text": "and that our and that our existence is"}, {"start": "03:08:54", "end": "03:09:00", "text": "not accidental."}, {"start": "03:08:56", "end": "03:09:01", "text": "That feels so much more likely than you"}, {"start": "03:09:00", "end": "03:09:03", "text": "and I just being some of the luckiest"}, {"start": "03:09:01", "end": "03:09:03", "text": "beings to ever exist. You know what I"}, {"start": "03:09:03", "end": "03:09:04", "text": "mean?"}, {"start": "03:09:03", "end": "03:09:05", "text": ">> I do."}, {"start": "03:09:04", "end": "03:09:08", "text": ">> It's actually more likely that we were"}, {"start": "03:09:05", "end": "03:09:09", "text": "always supposed to exist. And I think"}, {"start": "03:09:08", "end": "03:09:14", "text": "that that could be explained as simply"}, {"start": "03:09:09", "end": "03:09:15", "text": "as when the universe erupts"}, {"start": "03:09:14", "end": "03:09:17", "text": "and, you know, like the beginning of"}, {"start": "03:09:15", "end": "03:09:19", "text": "time, say the Big Bang."}, {"start": "03:09:17", "end": "03:09:20", "text": "There's this massive explosion and this"}, {"start": "03:09:19", "end": "03:09:21", "text": "launch"}, {"start": "03:09:20", "end": "03:09:24", "text": ">> Expansive nothing."}, {"start": "03:09:21", "end": "03:09:26", "text": "I think that all the threads of time"}, {"start": "03:09:24", "end": "03:09:28", "text": "already existed in that moment. Time"}, {"start": "03:09:26", "end": "03:09:30", "text": "can't exist without light. Those two"}, {"start": "03:09:28", "end": "03:09:30", "text": "things Those two things work together."}, {"start": "03:09:30", "end": "03:09:32", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "03:09:30", "end": "03:09:33", "text": ">> We were all touching. We were all"}, {"start": "03:09:32", "end": "03:09:35", "text": "together at some point."}, {"start": "03:09:33", "end": "03:09:39", "text": ">> matter can't be created or destroyed."}, {"start": "03:09:35", "end": "03:09:42", "text": ">> Right. And so all of time was compressed"}, {"start": "03:09:39", "end": "03:09:44", "text": "into the size of a pinhead. And those"}, {"start": "03:09:42", "end": "03:09:45", "text": "threads already existed and now they're"}, {"start": "03:09:44", "end": "03:09:46", "text": "just"}, {"start": "03:09:45", "end": "03:09:48", "text": "They're expanding out across the"}, {"start": "03:09:46", "end": "03:09:50", "text": "universe, but everything that was"}, {"start": "03:09:48", "end": "03:09:52", "text": "already going to happen was born in that"}, {"start": "03:09:50", "end": "03:09:55", "text": "moment. There's nothing that's that's up"}, {"start": "03:09:52", "end": "03:09:57", "text": "to chance. It all existed from the very"}, {"start": "03:09:55", "end": "03:09:59", "text": "beginning of time. That makes so much"}, {"start": "03:09:57", "end": "03:10:01", "text": "more sense to me than this idea that"}, {"start": "03:09:59", "end": "03:10:02", "text": "like the things that happen just happen,"}, {"start": "03:10:01", "end": "03:10:04", "text": "whatever whatever. I think everything"}, {"start": "03:10:02", "end": "03:10:07", "text": "that happens was already determined from"}, {"start": "03:10:04", "end": "03:10:08", "text": "the very second creation existed, if"}, {"start": "03:10:07", "end": "03:10:09", "text": "that makes sense."}, {"start": "03:10:08", "end": "03:10:10", "text": ">> It does. Yeah. Yeah, cuz we're all"}, {"start": "03:10:09", "end": "03:10:12", "text": "connected."}, {"start": "03:10:10", "end": "03:10:13", "text": "Um tell me your theory about the"}, {"start": "03:10:12", "end": "03:10:13", "text": "were-jaguars."}, {"start": "03:10:13", "end": "03:10:15", "text": ">> [snorts]"}, {"start": "03:10:13", "end": "03:10:16", "text": ">> I don't I don't want to forget that one."}, {"start": "03:10:15", "end": "03:10:18", "text": "Yeah, [clears throat] yeah. So,"}, {"start": "03:10:16", "end": "03:10:19", "text": "So, this is actually where um And then"}, {"start": "03:10:18", "end": "03:10:21", "text": "we'll see if we can get to Atlantis."}, {"start": "03:10:19", "end": "03:10:23", "text": "Yeah, yeah. So, this is where Dr."}, {"start": "03:10:21", "end": "03:10:23", "text": "Barnhart and I we probably, I don't"}, {"start": "03:10:23", "end": "03:10:25", "text": "know,"}, {"start": "03:10:23", "end": "03:10:26", "text": "we might disagree with each other on"}, {"start": "03:10:25", "end": "03:10:28", "text": "this, but it's"}, {"start": "03:10:26", "end": "03:10:28", "text": "it doesn't really matter."}, {"start": "03:10:28", "end": "03:10:30", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "03:10:28", "end": "03:10:30", "text": ">> It's actually called a were-jaguar."}, {"start": "03:10:30", "end": "03:10:31", "text": "Were-jaguar."}, {"start": "03:10:30", "end": "03:10:33", "text": ">> Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah."}, {"start": "03:10:31", "end": "03:10:35", "text": ">> So, it's really like a werewolf. Yep."}, {"start": "03:10:33", "end": "03:10:38", "text": "Yeah, yeah. Man, we've got werewolves"}, {"start": "03:10:35", "end": "03:10:40", "text": "and were-jaguars and were-tigers and I"}, {"start": "03:10:38", "end": "03:10:42", "text": "think there's a were-hippo out there"}, {"start": "03:10:40", "end": "03:10:44", "text": "somewhere. Yeah, yeah. I I I got to do a"}, {"start": "03:10:42", "end": "03:10:47", "text": "video at some point on on all the weres"}, {"start": "03:10:44", "end": "03:10:50", "text": "and uh these different human, you know,"}, {"start": "03:10:47", "end": "03:10:53", "text": "fusions with these creatures. But"}, {"start": "03:10:50", "end": "03:10:56", "text": "So, my first introduction to the"}, {"start": "03:10:53", "end": "03:10:57", "text": "were-jaguar was um"}, {"start": "03:10:56", "end": "03:10:59", "text": "Well, it was it was actually the day"}, {"start": "03:10:57", "end": "03:11:02", "text": "before I was at Palenque for the first"}, {"start": "03:10:59", "end": "03:11:04", "text": "time with uh Dr. Barnhart. If you go to"}, {"start": "03:11:02", "end": "03:11:06", "text": "see Palenque, the likelihood is you'll"}, {"start": "03:11:04", "end": "03:11:07", "text": "have to land in Villahermosa and there"}, {"start": "03:11:06", "end": "03:11:10", "text": "is where you can go to La Venta Park"}, {"start": "03:11:07", "end": "03:11:11", "text": "where a bunch of these uh"}, {"start": "03:11:10", "end": "03:11:14", "text": "where a bunch of these Olmec monuments"}, {"start": "03:11:11", "end": "03:11:17", "text": "were like rescued when uh"}, {"start": "03:11:14", "end": "03:11:18", "text": "I think it was Pemex was taking over The"}, {"start": "03:11:17", "end": "03:11:19", "text": "oil company?"}, {"start": "03:11:18", "end": "03:11:22", "text": ">> Yeah, yeah, yeah. Was was taking over a"}, {"start": "03:11:19", "end": "03:11:25", "text": "lot of um Mexican land and one of them"}, {"start": "03:11:22", "end": "03:11:26", "text": "was the archaeological site of La Venta."}, {"start": "03:11:25", "end": "03:11:30", "text": "They thought they were just going to"}, {"start": "03:11:26", "end": "03:11:32", "text": "pulverize the whole thing. So, uh one of"}, {"start": "03:11:30", "end": "03:11:33", "text": "the wealthy patrons of the city of"}, {"start": "03:11:32", "end": "03:11:36", "text": "Villahermosa"}, {"start": "03:11:33", "end": "03:11:38", "text": "bought all of those or maybe he bought"}, {"start": "03:11:36", "end": "03:11:39", "text": "them or he did something he he paid for"}, {"start": "03:11:38", "end": "03:11:41", "text": "them all to be transported to"}, {"start": "03:11:39", "end": "03:11:43", "text": "Villahermosa and put in this huge park."}, {"start": "03:11:41", "end": "03:11:46", "text": "So, he's like a It's like a local local"}, {"start": "03:11:43", "end": "03:11:47", "text": "local hero. Yeah. And"}, {"start": "03:11:46", "end": "03:11:48", "text": "it's an amazing [clears throat] park,"}, {"start": "03:11:47", "end": "03:11:50", "text": "one of my favorite parks in the world."}, {"start": "03:11:48", "end": "03:11:51", "text": "And it's also a little zoo as well. It's"}, {"start": "03:11:50", "end": "03:11:55", "text": "really cool. So, he and I visited that"}, {"start": "03:11:51", "end": "03:11:56", "text": "before Palenque, and I've been back like"}, {"start": "03:11:55", "end": "03:11:58", "text": "four or five times now. I've been across"}, {"start": "03:11:56", "end": "03:12:00", "text": "the Olmec world like maybe maybe four"}, {"start": "03:11:58", "end": "03:12:02", "text": "times now. And um"}, {"start": "03:12:00", "end": "03:12:05", "text": "And what's really interesting, and I"}, {"start": "03:12:02", "end": "03:12:06", "text": "tell people this every time I I'll take"}, {"start": "03:12:05", "end": "03:12:09", "text": "like we'll have students who sign up to"}, {"start": "03:12:06", "end": "03:12:10", "text": "go on a Maya Exploration Center, that's"}, {"start": "03:12:09", "end": "03:12:12", "text": "our organization, MEC. We'll have"}, {"start": "03:12:10", "end": "03:12:14", "text": "students that will sign up to go on like"}, {"start": "03:12:12", "end": "03:12:15", "text": "these educational tours. And so, I'll"}, {"start": "03:12:14", "end": "03:12:16", "text": "tell them at the on the first day I'll"}, {"start": "03:12:15", "end": "03:12:17", "text": "be like, \"What do you think of when you"}, {"start": "03:12:16", "end": "03:12:19", "text": "think of the Olmecs?\" They say head"}, {"start": "03:12:17", "end": "03:12:20", "text": "They'll say the heads. I'll say, \"By the"}, {"start": "03:12:19", "end": "03:12:21", "text": "time you leave this, when you think of"}, {"start": "03:12:20", "end": "03:12:23", "text": "the Olmecs, you'll think of a"}, {"start": "03:12:21", "end": "03:12:25", "text": "ware-jaguar.\" It won't even be close."}, {"start": "03:12:23", "end": "03:12:27", "text": "You'll think of a ware-jaguar. Yeah,"}, {"start": "03:12:25", "end": "03:12:30", "text": "because"}, {"start": "03:12:27", "end": "03:12:31", "text": "there 17 known basalt Olmec heads, and"}, {"start": "03:12:30", "end": "03:12:34", "text": "there are three more that are sandstone"}, {"start": "03:12:31", "end": "03:12:36", "text": "that Dr. Barnhart and I we publicized to"}, {"start": "03:12:34", "end": "03:12:38", "text": "like the popular audience just a few"}, {"start": "03:12:36", "end": "03:12:39", "text": "years ago because no one had ever seen"}, {"start": "03:12:38", "end": "03:12:40", "text": "them. He and I hadn't even seen them in"}, {"start": "03:12:39", "end": "03:12:42", "text": "person. There was this little There's"}, {"start": "03:12:40", "end": "03:12:44", "text": "this little museum that's been like"}, {"start": "03:12:42", "end": "03:12:45", "text": "closed at La Venta for years because I"}, {"start": "03:12:44", "end": "03:12:48", "text": "guess like rain damage, and they"}, {"start": "03:12:45", "end": "03:12:50", "text": "reopened it back up, and the floor was"}, {"start": "03:12:48", "end": "03:12:51", "text": "like still covered in water, and"}, {"start": "03:12:50", "end": "03:12:53", "text": "so we're walking around this museum in"}, {"start": "03:12:51", "end": "03:12:55", "text": "like inch-deep water. He and I open up"}, {"start": "03:12:53", "end": "03:12:58", "text": "these doors, and there's these three"}, {"start": "03:12:55", "end": "03:13:00", "text": "massive sandstone Olmec heads standing"}, {"start": "03:12:58", "end": "03:13:02", "text": "in front of us that are far larger in"}, {"start": "03:13:00", "end": "03:13:04", "text": "size, not weight, but in size compared"}, {"start": "03:13:02", "end": "03:13:06", "text": "to all the other Olmec heads. And he and"}, {"start": "03:13:04", "end": "03:13:08", "text": "I look at each other, and we go, \"What"}, {"start": "03:13:06", "end": "03:13:11", "text": "the hell are these?\" We'd never seen"}, {"start": "03:13:08", "end": "03:13:11", "text": "them before. And um They're larger than"}, {"start": "03:13:11", "end": "03:13:13", "text": "what's in the park?"}, {"start": "03:13:11", "end": "03:13:15", "text": ">> Yeah, yeah, they're Yeah, oh, it's"}, {"start": "03:13:13", "end": "03:13:17", "text": "crazy. It It's really crazy. Um and"}, {"start": "03:13:15", "end": "03:13:20", "text": "there are Olmec heads spread throughout"}, {"start": "03:13:17", "end": "03:13:22", "text": "Mexico, but all the ones from La Venta"}, {"start": "03:13:20", "end": "03:13:24", "text": "almost all of them are are at that park."}, {"start": "03:13:22", "end": "03:13:28", "text": "Um but they're larger than all the Olmec"}, {"start": "03:13:24", "end": "03:13:29", "text": "heads throughout all of Mexico. Um"}, {"start": "03:13:28", "end": "03:13:31", "text": "almost like twice as big in size."}, {"start": "03:13:29", "end": "03:13:33", "text": ">> Wow. And um but what's funny is those"}, {"start": "03:13:31", "end": "03:13:34", "text": "heads are not humans, they're"}, {"start": "03:13:33", "end": "03:13:36", "text": "ware-jaguars."}, {"start": "03:13:34", "end": "03:13:37", "text": "Oh."}, {"start": "03:13:36", "end": "03:13:40", "text": "But they're not basalts, so there's"}, {"start": "03:13:37", "end": "03:13:44", "text": "there's some there's some So So this"}, {"start": "03:13:40", "end": "03:13:45", "text": "slowly started eating away at me. I just"}, {"start": "03:13:44", "end": "03:13:47", "text": "What's really cool about Mesoamerican"}, {"start": "03:13:45", "end": "03:13:49", "text": "archaeology,"}, {"start": "03:13:47", "end": "03:13:51", "text": "or I should say American archaeology, is"}, {"start": "03:13:49", "end": "03:13:53", "text": "that it's underpublished,"}, {"start": "03:13:51", "end": "03:13:55", "text": "underfunded."}, {"start": "03:13:53", "end": "03:13:58", "text": "It's not quite as popular, you know,"}, {"start": "03:13:55", "end": "03:14:00", "text": "Egypt vastly overshadows so much of the"}, {"start": "03:13:58", "end": "03:14:01", "text": "ancient world as far as popular"}, {"start": "03:14:00", "end": "03:14:02", "text": "interest, right?"}, {"start": "03:14:01", "end": "03:14:04", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "03:14:02", "end": "03:14:06", "text": "and there are so few people"}, {"start": "03:14:04", "end": "03:14:08", "text": "professionally studying it"}, {"start": "03:14:06", "end": "03:14:10", "text": "that an outlaw like myself or Dr."}, {"start": "03:14:08", "end": "03:14:12", "text": "Barnhart can come in and look at the"}, {"start": "03:14:10", "end": "03:14:14", "text": "stuff that's on display,"}, {"start": "03:14:12", "end": "03:14:15", "text": "read the academic literature of what's"}, {"start": "03:14:14", "end": "03:14:17", "text": "been of what's been discovered, you"}, {"start": "03:14:15", "end": "03:14:18", "text": "know, for like like 100 years ago or"}, {"start": "03:14:17", "end": "03:14:20", "text": "more, 80 years ago when it comes to the"}, {"start": "03:14:18", "end": "03:14:22", "text": "Olmecs. That's another thing. You know,"}, {"start": "03:14:20", "end": "03:14:25", "text": "the Olmecs are an American discovery."}, {"start": "03:14:22", "end": "03:14:27", "text": "Americans discovered and made the major"}, {"start": "03:14:25", "end": "03:14:29", "text": "exploration or the major expeditions in"}, {"start": "03:14:27", "end": "03:14:31", "text": "the Olmec world, Matthew Stirling and"}, {"start": "03:14:29", "end": "03:14:32", "text": "the Smithsonian. When was that? Um it"}, {"start": "03:14:31", "end": "03:14:34", "text": "was"}, {"start": "03:14:32", "end": "03:14:38", "text": "uh What was the first year?"}, {"start": "03:14:34", "end": "03:14:41", "text": "19 It was mid-1930s to just after World"}, {"start": "03:14:38", "end": "03:14:43", "text": "War II, 1946, I believe, was the last"}, {"start": "03:14:41", "end": "03:14:45", "text": "uh [snorts] Stirling expedition to the"}, {"start": "03:14:43", "end": "03:14:47", "text": "Olmec world. But yeah, it was it it was"}, {"start": "03:14:45", "end": "03:14:48", "text": "American teams that did that. It's It's"}, {"start": "03:14:47", "end": "03:14:51", "text": "kind of cool. It's an exclusive It's"}, {"start": "03:14:48", "end": "03:14:52", "text": "like a It's like a specifically American"}, {"start": "03:14:51", "end": "03:14:54", "text": "story where where we went down into"}, {"start": "03:14:52", "end": "03:14:56", "text": "Mexico and and launched these major"}, {"start": "03:14:54", "end": "03:14:57", "text": "expeditions uh with Smithsonian,"}, {"start": "03:14:56", "end": "03:15:00", "text": "obviously working with their government,"}, {"start": "03:14:57", "end": "03:15:02", "text": "but fully American teams. Yeah, I mean,"}, {"start": "03:15:00", "end": "03:15:04", "text": "we talked earlier about"}, {"start": "03:15:02", "end": "03:15:05", "text": "the early Smithsonian was very racist"}, {"start": "03:15:04", "end": "03:15:06", "text": "against indigenous people."}, {"start": "03:15:05", "end": "03:15:07", "text": ">> Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah."}, {"start": "03:15:06", "end": "03:15:08", "text": ">> Cuz they believed that there's no way"}, {"start": "03:15:07", "end": "03:15:09", "text": "savages could build these amazing"}, {"start": "03:15:08", "end": "03:15:10", "text": "things,"}, {"start": "03:15:09", "end": "03:15:12", "text": "which I think is one of the reasons why"}, {"start": "03:15:10", "end": "03:15:13", "text": "we don't hear those stories as much as"}, {"start": "03:15:12", "end": "03:15:15", "text": "we hear about Egypt."}, {"start": "03:15:13", "end": "03:15:18", "text": "To 100% true. Yeah, yeah, there's"}, {"start": "03:15:15", "end": "03:15:19", "text": "there's a lot of weird, complex, like"}, {"start": "03:15:18", "end": "03:15:22", "text": "dark"}, {"start": "03:15:19", "end": "03:15:23", "text": "stuff that the Smithsonian has gotten up"}, {"start": "03:15:22", "end": "03:15:25", "text": "to. I I haven't done a whole lot of"}, {"start": "03:15:23", "end": "03:15:28", "text": "looking into it, but I will I will feed"}, {"start": "03:15:25", "end": "03:15:30", "text": "the the giant skeletons uh community."}, {"start": "03:15:28", "end": "03:15:32", "text": "There were three massive skeletons that"}, {"start": "03:15:30", "end": "03:15:35", "text": "were discovered at the Olmec side of San"}, {"start": "03:15:32", "end": "03:15:37", "text": "Lorenzo in the early 1900s and an old"}, {"start": "03:15:35", "end": "03:15:39", "text": "man that Dr."}, {"start": "03:15:37", "end": "03:15:40", "text": ">> How big are we talking? Are we talking"}, {"start": "03:15:39", "end": "03:15:42", "text": "giants?"}, {"start": "03:15:40", "end": "03:15:44", "text": "Uh more than 6 and 1/2 ft tall. Okay."}, {"start": "03:15:42", "end": "03:15:46", "text": "That's that's what the guy That's what"}, {"start": "03:15:44", "end": "03:15:48", "text": "this old man who was probably in his"}, {"start": "03:15:46", "end": "03:15:50", "text": "80s, Dr. Barnhart and I met him. He came"}, {"start": "03:15:48", "end": "03:15:53", "text": "out with the archaeological team to the"}, {"start": "03:15:50", "end": "03:15:55", "text": "site of San Lorenzo, got talking to us,"}, {"start": "03:15:53", "end": "03:15:58", "text": "and he told us he saw three massive"}, {"start": "03:15:55", "end": "03:16:00", "text": "skeletons get erect or get excavated"}, {"start": "03:15:58", "end": "03:16:02", "text": "from the Red Palace"}, {"start": "03:16:00", "end": "03:16:03", "text": "and they were taken to Mexico City and"}, {"start": "03:16:02", "end": "03:16:04", "text": "never seen again. Wow."}, {"start": "03:16:03", "end": "03:16:07", "text": ">> Never published. There's no photos of"}, {"start": "03:16:04", "end": "03:16:08", "text": "them. That guy said he was 16 years old"}, {"start": "03:16:07", "end": "03:16:10", "text": "when he saw it. And there are other"}, {"start": "03:16:08", "end": "03:16:12", "text": "people who saw it as well and this was a"}, {"start": "03:16:10", "end": "03:16:15", "text": "known thing that giant people were found"}, {"start": "03:16:12", "end": "03:16:16", "text": "in these mounds and taken away. You're"}, {"start": "03:16:15", "end": "03:16:17", "text": "not really a giant guy."}, {"start": "03:16:16", "end": "03:16:18", "text": ">> was And this was the Smithsonian doing"}, {"start": "03:16:17", "end": "03:16:19", "text": "this."}, {"start": "03:16:18", "end": "03:16:21", "text": ">> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we have them"}, {"start": "03:16:19", "end": "03:16:22", "text": "documented of hiding things. Oh, man, I"}, {"start": "03:16:21", "end": "03:16:25", "text": "don't know if I'm I don't know if I'm a"}, {"start": "03:16:22", "end": "03:16:27", "text": "giants guy. Um"}, {"start": "03:16:25", "end": "03:16:29", "text": "I'm not really. I I kind of want to"}, {"start": "03:16:27", "end": "03:16:30", "text": "believe, but I kind of don't."}, {"start": "03:16:29", "end": "03:16:32", "text": "Yeah, I mean, I don't know if I don't"}, {"start": "03:16:30", "end": "03:16:34", "text": "know I mean, I don't know if giants are"}, {"start": "03:16:32", "end": "03:16:36", "text": "a race or if they're just venerated"}, {"start": "03:16:34", "end": "03:16:39", "text": "because they're because they have What"}, {"start": "03:16:36", "end": "03:16:41", "text": "is it? Gigantism or gigantism? Right. I"}, {"start": "03:16:39", "end": "03:16:43", "text": "mean, I think your theory is the first I"}, {"start": "03:16:41", "end": "03:16:45", "text": "heard of someone talking about a cleft"}, {"start": "03:16:43", "end": "03:16:47", "text": "palate as being a positive trait in a"}, {"start": "03:16:45", "end": "03:16:50", "text": "culture. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "03:16:47", "end": "03:16:51", "text": "Mhm. Um Can you tell us about that real"}, {"start": "03:16:50", "end": "03:16:52", "text": "fast? Yeah, absolutely. [clears throat]"}, {"start": "03:16:51", "end": "03:16:56", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. So, this"}, {"start": "03:16:52", "end": "03:16:56", "text": "So, this is [snorts] this is the"}, {"start": "03:16:56", "end": "03:16:59", "text": "the way that this started for me was I"}, {"start": "03:16:58", "end": "03:17:03", "text": "was actually just playing around with I"}, {"start": "03:16:59", "end": "03:17:05", "text": "was putting together um"}, {"start": "03:17:03", "end": "03:17:07", "text": "the ways that that Star Wars is inspired"}, {"start": "03:17:05", "end": "03:17:09", "text": "by the Mesoamerican world. People don't"}, {"start": "03:17:07", "end": "03:17:10", "text": "realize that there actually was"}, {"start": "03:17:09", "end": "03:17:12", "text": "something called the Star Wars. It was"}, {"start": "03:17:10", "end": "03:17:14", "text": "the Maya Civil Wars"}, {"start": "03:17:12", "end": "03:17:16", "text": "and that so much of George Lucas' Star"}, {"start": "03:17:14", "end": "03:17:18", "text": "Wars is actually pulled from"}, {"start": "03:17:16", "end": "03:17:19", "text": "the Mesoamerican world. Even though they"}, {"start": "03:17:18", "end": "03:17:20", "text": "don't publish it. Like you would think"}, {"start": "03:17:19", "end": "03:17:22", "text": "he would write that in a book. It's so"}, {"start": "03:17:20", "end": "03:17:24", "text": "obvious to me, but um"}, {"start": "03:17:22", "end": "03:17:27", "text": ">> This audience knows what Yavin 4 is."}, {"start": "03:17:24", "end": "03:17:30", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. So, Yavin 4, Tikal. Well,"}, {"start": "03:17:27", "end": "03:17:31", "text": "Jabba's Palace is actually pulled from"}, {"start": "03:17:30", "end": "03:17:34", "text": "from Montezuma's Palace. When the"}, {"start": "03:17:31", "end": "03:17:37", "text": "Spaniards arrived, that this is this is"}, {"start": "03:17:34", "end": "03:17:38", "text": "the beginning of me thinking about this."}, {"start": "03:17:37", "end": "03:17:40", "text": "And I don't know if there's any other"}, {"start": "03:17:38", "end": "03:17:42", "text": "modern scholars out there that agree"}, {"start": "03:17:40", "end": "03:17:44", "text": "with me on this or or or they might all"}, {"start": "03:17:42", "end": "03:17:45", "text": "think I'm crazy for thinking this."}, {"start": "03:17:44", "end": "03:17:47", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "03:17:45", "end": "03:17:49", "text": "but this is this is what got me thinking"}, {"start": "03:17:47", "end": "03:17:51", "text": "about this. I had known"}, {"start": "03:17:49", "end": "03:17:53", "text": "that the Aztecs had Olmec artifacts."}, {"start": "03:17:51", "end": "03:17:54", "text": "Even though they may have never known"}, {"start": "03:17:53", "end": "03:17:56", "text": "who the Olmecs were or knew about any"}, {"start": "03:17:54", "end": "03:17:57", "text": "other sites. I knew that they had Olmec"}, {"start": "03:17:56", "end": "03:18:00", "text": "artifacts and probably knew it came from"}, {"start": "03:17:57", "end": "03:18:02", "text": "a time before time, right?"}, {"start": "03:18:00", "end": "03:18:04", "text": "And then I got thinking about when the"}, {"start": "03:18:02", "end": "03:18:06", "text": "Spaniards arrived at Montezuma's Palace"}, {"start": "03:18:04", "end": "03:18:08", "text": "in the Aztec capital of Tenochtitlan."}, {"start": "03:18:06", "end": "03:18:10", "text": "They go up in this palace and they see"}, {"start": "03:18:08", "end": "03:18:12", "text": "that surrounding the emperor are all"}, {"start": "03:18:10", "end": "03:18:14", "text": "these people with weird deformities. And"}, {"start": "03:18:12", "end": "03:18:15", "text": "he saw them as being touched or blessed"}, {"start": "03:18:14", "end": "03:18:18", "text": "by the gods and that they could be"}, {"start": "03:18:15", "end": "03:18:19", "text": "clairvoyant, that they could be"}, {"start": "03:18:18", "end": "03:18:20", "text": "um"}, {"start": "03:18:19", "end": "03:18:22", "text": "you know, they were valuable people and"}, {"start": "03:18:20", "end": "03:18:23", "text": "so they were all spoiled and they were"}, {"start": "03:18:22", "end": "03:18:25", "text": "kept up in the palace and they were"}, {"start": "03:18:23", "end": "03:18:26", "text": "venerated. They weren't discarded like"}, {"start": "03:18:25", "end": "03:18:28", "text": "they you know"}, {"start": "03:18:26", "end": "03:18:30", "text": "if you're born deformed in ancient"}, {"start": "03:18:28", "end": "03:18:31", "text": "Greece, you're going to get left up on"}, {"start": "03:18:30", "end": "03:18:33", "text": "top of a mountain top."}, {"start": "03:18:31", "end": "03:18:34", "text": ">> Right. And"}, {"start": "03:18:33", "end": "03:18:35", "text": "so [clears throat] that's another reason"}, {"start": "03:18:34", "end": "03:18:37", "text": "that I say that their way of thinking is"}, {"start": "03:18:35", "end": "03:18:38", "text": "inverse to ours. They're so much"}, {"start": "03:18:37", "end": "03:18:40", "text": "different than us. So they see these"}, {"start": "03:18:38", "end": "03:18:41", "text": "people as being touched by the gods or"}, {"start": "03:18:40", "end": "03:18:44", "text": "blessed by them."}, {"start": "03:18:41", "end": "03:18:46", "text": "Well, you know, one of the things that"}, {"start": "03:18:44", "end": "03:18:48", "text": "we talk about a lot in Mesoamerican"}, {"start": "03:18:46", "end": "03:18:50", "text": "archaeology is is the continuity of"}, {"start": "03:18:48", "end": "03:18:52", "text": "cultures that they're very traditional."}, {"start": "03:18:50", "end": "03:18:54", "text": "At the top of their of their stone"}, {"start": "03:18:52", "end": "03:18:56", "text": "pyramids, if you look at the"}, {"start": "03:18:54", "end": "03:18:58", "text": "architecture in the Maya world, the top"}, {"start": "03:18:56", "end": "03:19:01", "text": "pyramid in stone"}, {"start": "03:18:58", "end": "03:19:03", "text": "will be a stone recreation of a wooden"}, {"start": "03:19:01", "end": "03:19:06", "text": "and thatch hut that the normal people"}, {"start": "03:19:03", "end": "03:19:08", "text": "would live in. So the top of the pyramid"}, {"start": "03:19:06", "end": "03:19:10", "text": "is just an architectural recreation of a"}, {"start": "03:19:08", "end": "03:19:12", "text": "of a wooden and thatch hut. It's the"}, {"start": "03:19:10", "end": "03:19:14", "text": "same way within um"}, {"start": "03:19:12", "end": "03:19:16", "text": "within Egyptian temples, the pillars"}, {"start": "03:19:14", "end": "03:19:18", "text": "themselves are actually just bundles of"}, {"start": "03:19:16", "end": "03:19:20", "text": "reeds and lotus flowers that are all"}, {"start": "03:19:18", "end": "03:19:22", "text": "wrapped together. That's what the pillar"}, {"start": "03:19:20", "end": "03:19:24", "text": "itself represents."}, {"start": "03:19:22", "end": "03:19:24", "text": "And so"}, {"start": "03:19:24", "end": "03:19:26", "text": "they really [cough and clears throat]"}, {"start": "03:19:24", "end": "03:19:28", "text": "care about staying with tradition."}, {"start": "03:19:26", "end": "03:19:30", "text": "That's why these people for so long,"}, {"start": "03:19:28", "end": "03:19:31", "text": "even as wealthy as they were, they"}, {"start": "03:19:30", "end": "03:19:34", "text": "always lived in huts because it's a way"}, {"start": "03:19:31", "end": "03:19:35", "text": "of honoring the ancestors and honoring"}, {"start": "03:19:34", "end": "03:19:37", "text": "tradition itself. You know, they're like"}, {"start": "03:19:35", "end": "03:19:38", "text": "conservative people. They hold on to"}, {"start": "03:19:37", "end": "03:19:39", "text": "these traditions and carry them with"}, {"start": "03:19:38", "end": "03:19:41", "text": "them."}, {"start": "03:19:39", "end": "03:19:43", "text": "And so I thought, well, you know, the"}, {"start": "03:19:41", "end": "03:19:44", "text": "Aztecs are"}, {"start": "03:19:43", "end": "03:19:47", "text": "1400 AD."}, {"start": "03:19:44", "end": "03:19:49", "text": "You go back just a thousand years, you"}, {"start": "03:19:47", "end": "03:19:51", "text": "can see that the Maya are venerating"}, {"start": "03:19:49", "end": "03:19:54", "text": "dwarfs. They say that the that dwarfs"}, {"start": "03:19:51", "end": "03:19:56", "text": "built the pyramid of Uxmal in a single"}, {"start": "03:19:54", "end": "03:19:58", "text": "night. If you go up to Temple 33 at the"}, {"start": "03:19:56", "end": "03:20:00", "text": "city of Yaxchilan, there's like"}, {"start": "03:19:58", "end": "03:20:03", "text": "depictions of dwarfs and the ball game"}, {"start": "03:20:00", "end": "03:20:05", "text": "all the way around the temple."}, {"start": "03:20:03", "end": "03:20:06", "text": "The Maya people venerated dwarfs as"}, {"start": "03:20:05", "end": "03:20:09", "text": "being special and being touched by the"}, {"start": "03:20:06", "end": "03:20:11", "text": "gods. Uh you see that Pacal's son at the"}, {"start": "03:20:09", "end": "03:20:12", "text": "city of Palenque, he had six fingers and"}, {"start": "03:20:11", "end": "03:20:14", "text": "six toes. And that was something that"}, {"start": "03:20:12", "end": "03:20:16", "text": "they that they saw as being significant"}, {"start": "03:20:14", "end": "03:20:19", "text": "about him, that he was blessed by the"}, {"start": "03:20:16", "end": "03:20:21", "text": "gods. Well, let's let's go back to let's"}, {"start": "03:20:19", "end": "03:20:23", "text": "let's take that just one step further"}, {"start": "03:20:21", "end": "03:20:26", "text": "back to the Olmec world where we have"}, {"start": "03:20:23", "end": "03:20:27", "text": "even more deformity. We have um"}, {"start": "03:20:26", "end": "03:20:30", "text": "you know, you have you have all these"}, {"start": "03:20:27", "end": "03:20:31", "text": "depictions of of were-jaguar people who"}, {"start": "03:20:30", "end": "03:20:33", "text": "uh you know, they look like they have"}, {"start": "03:20:31", "end": "03:20:35", "text": "the downturned mouths and cleft lips"}, {"start": "03:20:33", "end": "03:20:38", "text": "with fangs coming out."}, {"start": "03:20:35", "end": "03:20:41", "text": ">> Um and then you also see a lot of"}, {"start": "03:20:38", "end": "03:20:42", "text": "depictions of"}, {"start": "03:20:41", "end": "03:20:44", "text": "they some people call them like Downs"}, {"start": "03:20:42", "end": "03:20:46", "text": "babies, but they're babies that you can"}, {"start": "03:20:44", "end": "03:20:48", "text": "tell"}, {"start": "03:20:46", "end": "03:20:49", "text": "are not"}, {"start": "03:20:48", "end": "03:20:51", "text": "you know, they're born with some kind of"}, {"start": "03:20:49", "end": "03:20:52", "text": "deformity. There's there's something"}, {"start": "03:20:51", "end": "03:20:54", "text": "there's something, you know, wrong with"}, {"start": "03:20:52", "end": "03:20:55", "text": "them. That's a were-jaguar baby. But if"}, {"start": "03:20:54", "end": "03:20:57", "text": "you go to like a"}, {"start": "03:20:55", "end": "03:20:59", "text": "regular baby, that guy, he's actually a"}, {"start": "03:20:57", "end": "03:21:01", "text": "little bit different. Um so I think he"}, {"start": "03:20:59", "end": "03:21:03", "text": "has ectodermal dysplasia, but if you"}, {"start": "03:21:01", "end": "03:21:05", "text": "look at a different baby statue, um"}, {"start": "03:21:03", "end": "03:21:07", "text": "you'll see that that they do look like"}, {"start": "03:21:05", "end": "03:21:09", "text": "like children with Down syndrome. And so"}, {"start": "03:21:07", "end": "03:21:12", "text": "I think that the reason that we have"}, {"start": "03:21:09", "end": "03:21:14", "text": "thousands of these little statues and"}, {"start": "03:21:12", "end": "03:21:16", "text": "and they're they're like life-size. They"}, {"start": "03:21:14", "end": "03:21:17", "text": "look just like a baby. You can put a"}, {"start": "03:21:16", "end": "03:21:19", "text": "real one next to him, they're same size"}, {"start": "03:21:17", "end": "03:21:22", "text": "and everything. It's a portrait of a"}, {"start": "03:21:19", "end": "03:21:25", "text": "literal baby. And I think that"}, {"start": "03:21:22", "end": "03:21:27", "text": "what I think is happening is that when"}, {"start": "03:21:25", "end": "03:21:29", "text": "these babies are being born, the Olmec"}, {"start": "03:21:27", "end": "03:21:31", "text": "people know that something is special"}, {"start": "03:21:29", "end": "03:21:33", "text": "about them, they're blessed by the gods,"}, {"start": "03:21:31", "end": "03:21:36", "text": "and they're not going to make it through"}, {"start": "03:21:33", "end": "03:21:37", "text": "childhood. And so they venerate these"}, {"start": "03:21:36", "end": "03:21:39", "text": "babies by making all these statues for"}, {"start": "03:21:37", "end": "03:21:41", "text": "them cuz they know these children aren't"}, {"start": "03:21:39", "end": "03:21:43", "text": "going to survive. And I think they're"}, {"start": "03:21:41", "end": "03:21:46", "text": "they're venerating their lives. And the"}, {"start": "03:21:43", "end": "03:21:48", "text": "babies that are born with these cleft"}, {"start": "03:21:46", "end": "03:21:50", "text": "lips"}, {"start": "03:21:48", "end": "03:21:52", "text": "in the 1970s, there was a survey that"}, {"start": "03:21:50", "end": "03:21:53", "text": "was done in Veracruz, like a medical"}, {"start": "03:21:52", "end": "03:21:54", "text": "survey. And one of the things they"}, {"start": "03:21:53", "end": "03:21:56", "text": "documented, this didn't have anything to"}, {"start": "03:21:54", "end": "03:21:57", "text": "do with like research in the Olmecs, it"}, {"start": "03:21:56", "end": "03:21:59", "text": "was just something that that that they"}, {"start": "03:21:57", "end": "03:22:00", "text": "documented, was that there's a"}, {"start": "03:21:59", "end": "03:22:03", "text": "disproportionate amount of indigenous"}, {"start": "03:22:00", "end": "03:22:04", "text": "children born with ectodermal dysplasia."}, {"start": "03:22:03", "end": "03:22:06", "text": "I mean, there's no question that's what"}, {"start": "03:22:04", "end": "03:22:07", "text": "this is. We're seeing this over and"}, {"start": "03:22:06", "end": "03:22:08", "text": "over. No question."}, {"start": "03:22:07", "end": "03:22:09", "text": ">> see underneath the lips how gummy that"}, {"start": "03:22:08", "end": "03:22:10", "text": "is?"}, {"start": "03:22:09", "end": "03:22:12", "text": ">> Yeah, there's no question."}, {"start": "03:22:10", "end": "03:22:13", "text": ">> So, my wife has worked on children with"}, {"start": "03:22:12", "end": "03:22:15", "text": "ectodermal dysplasia. My wife's a"}, {"start": "03:22:13", "end": "03:22:18", "text": "dentist. I referred her about this"}, {"start": "03:22:15", "end": "03:22:20", "text": "stuff, so I feel a little more Sure."}, {"start": "03:22:18", "end": "03:22:21", "text": ">> uh free to talk about this. But, um"}, {"start": "03:22:20", "end": "03:22:23", "text": "she'll have kids come in with ectodermal"}, {"start": "03:22:21", "end": "03:22:24", "text": "dysplasia. They got a couple of fangs,"}, {"start": "03:22:23", "end": "03:22:27", "text": "like sometimes it's two fangs in the"}, {"start": "03:22:24", "end": "03:22:28", "text": "front, or sometimes it's wide two fangs."}, {"start": "03:22:27", "end": "03:22:30", "text": "They have no learning disability. Just"}, {"start": "03:22:28", "end": "03:22:32", "text": "normal. Really? Yeah, just totally"}, {"start": "03:22:30", "end": "03:22:34", "text": "normal kids. But, they but they are"}, {"start": "03:22:32", "end": "03:22:35", "text": "their mouths are gummy and they will"}, {"start": "03:22:34", "end": "03:22:37", "text": "have two fangs on the top and maybe"}, {"start": "03:22:35", "end": "03:22:38", "text": "sometimes fangs on the bottom, or they"}, {"start": "03:22:37", "end": "03:22:39", "text": "won't have teeth that grow in the"}, {"start": "03:22:38", "end": "03:22:40", "text": "bottom."}, {"start": "03:22:39", "end": "03:22:42", "text": "Nowadays, they'll get implants, you"}, {"start": "03:22:40", "end": "03:22:45", "text": "know, dentures, whatever. They they have"}, {"start": "03:22:42", "end": "03:22:46", "text": "different ways of of um helping kids"}, {"start": "03:22:45", "end": "03:22:47", "text": "with this. But,"}, {"start": "03:22:46", "end": "03:22:49", "text": "um it doesn't come with learning"}, {"start": "03:22:47", "end": "03:22:51", "text": "disabilities. And she had a whole period"}, {"start": "03:22:49", "end": "03:22:52", "text": "in college where she learned about this,"}, {"start": "03:22:51", "end": "03:22:54", "text": "which was actually the same time that I"}, {"start": "03:22:52", "end": "03:22:56", "text": "was researching this, when I first"}, {"start": "03:22:54", "end": "03:22:57", "text": "started researching it. And so, what I"}, {"start": "03:22:56", "end": "03:22:59", "text": "think is that"}, {"start": "03:22:57", "end": "03:23:01", "text": "these people"}, {"start": "03:22:59", "end": "03:23:03", "text": "are interacting with the most ferocious"}, {"start": "03:23:01", "end": "03:23:05", "text": "animal in the jungles of the Americas,"}, {"start": "03:23:03", "end": "03:23:08", "text": "the jaguar. All of a sudden, you have"}, {"start": "03:23:05", "end": "03:23:10", "text": "kids that are born with jaguar fangs."}, {"start": "03:23:08", "end": "03:23:13", "text": "You start taking DMT and ayahuasca and"}, {"start": "03:23:10", "end": "03:23:15", "text": "peyote. And just like you hear people"}, {"start": "03:23:13", "end": "03:23:17", "text": "who take these hallucinogenic drugs in"}, {"start": "03:23:15", "end": "03:23:19", "text": "the jungles of Central America, Mexico,"}, {"start": "03:23:17", "end": "03:23:20", "text": "and South America, they will wake up"}, {"start": "03:23:19", "end": "03:23:23", "text": "looking through the eyes of a jaguar."}, {"start": "03:23:20", "end": "03:23:24", "text": "They will be inside a jaguar going"}, {"start": "03:23:23", "end": "03:23:27", "text": "through the jungle."}, {"start": "03:23:24", "end": "03:23:29", "text": "And I think that all of these things"}, {"start": "03:23:27", "end": "03:23:32", "text": "over thousands of years fuse into this"}, {"start": "03:23:29", "end": "03:23:35", "text": "culture that venerates the most"}, {"start": "03:23:32", "end": "03:23:37", "text": "ferocious beast in the forest"}, {"start": "03:23:35", "end": "03:23:38", "text": "that is taking hallucinogenic"}, {"start": "03:23:37", "end": "03:23:40", "text": "psychedelics and"}, {"start": "03:23:38", "end": "03:23:41", "text": "looking through the eyes of a jaguar."}, {"start": "03:23:40", "end": "03:23:43", "text": "Whether or not it's really happening, I"}, {"start": "03:23:41", "end": "03:23:44", "text": "don't I don't exactly know."}, {"start": "03:23:43", "end": "03:23:46", "text": "And then you have children that are"}, {"start": "03:23:44", "end": "03:23:49", "text": "being born with fangs that people are"}, {"start": "03:23:46", "end": "03:23:49", "text": "looking at like"}, {"start": "03:23:49", "end": "03:23:53", "text": "this person is a human jaguar. How did"}, {"start": "03:23:51", "end": "03:23:56", "text": "it How did this happen? And you see"}, {"start": "03:23:53", "end": "03:23:58", "text": "depictions in the city of Chalcatzingo"}, {"start": "03:23:56", "end": "03:23:59", "text": "of jaguars and people"}, {"start": "03:23:58", "end": "03:24:01", "text": "like interloping with each other, like"}, {"start": "03:23:59", "end": "03:24:02", "text": "having sex with each other. Uh some"}, {"start": "03:24:01", "end": "03:24:03", "text": "people think that they're dancing, but"}, {"start": "03:24:02", "end": "03:24:05", "text": "they they do look like they're having"}, {"start": "03:24:03", "end": "03:24:07", "text": "sex with each other, and they're like"}, {"start": "03:24:05", "end": "03:24:08", "text": "human jaguars. And so I think you get"}, {"start": "03:24:07", "end": "03:24:10", "text": "this I think over the course of"}, {"start": "03:24:08", "end": "03:24:12", "text": "thousands of years of this happening,"}, {"start": "03:24:10", "end": "03:24:14", "text": "you get these people that are like"}, {"start": "03:24:12", "end": "03:24:17", "text": "selectively breeding and engineering a"}, {"start": "03:24:14", "end": "03:24:19", "text": "whole population of people to be born"}, {"start": "03:24:17", "end": "03:24:21", "text": "with ectodermal dysplasia. And that's"}, {"start": "03:24:19", "end": "03:24:25", "text": "why throughout the the Olmec world, you"}, {"start": "03:24:21", "end": "03:24:27", "text": "only see 17 depictions of colossal Olmec"}, {"start": "03:24:25", "end": "03:24:29", "text": "heads, but you see"}, {"start": "03:24:27", "end": "03:24:32", "text": "thousands of depictions of were-jaguar"}, {"start": "03:24:29", "end": "03:24:34", "text": "people. Thousands. Thousands. Thousands."}, {"start": "03:24:32", "end": "03:24:37", "text": "And what I think it is is just like in"}, {"start": "03:24:34", "end": "03:24:39", "text": "ancient Egypt where you had"}, {"start": "03:24:37", "end": "03:24:41", "text": "it this this is I mean I I just feel so"}, {"start": "03:24:39", "end": "03:24:42", "text": "certain saying this. In in ancient"}, {"start": "03:24:41", "end": "03:24:45", "text": "Egypt,"}, {"start": "03:24:42", "end": "03:24:46", "text": "you have um we know that the pharaoh and"}, {"start": "03:24:45", "end": "03:24:47", "text": "the priests were warring against each"}, {"start": "03:24:46", "end": "03:24:48", "text": "other. The priests had"}, {"start": "03:24:47", "end": "03:24:49", "text": ">> [snorts]"}, {"start": "03:24:48", "end": "03:24:51", "text": ">> risen up. They they're they've become so"}, {"start": "03:24:49", "end": "03:24:52", "text": "powerful that they start to challenge"}, {"start": "03:24:51", "end": "03:24:54", "text": "the pharaoh's power, and it's almost"}, {"start": "03:24:52", "end": "03:24:56", "text": "like the pharaoh has to obey the the"}, {"start": "03:24:54", "end": "03:24:58", "text": "priests, and you know, that's not the"}, {"start": "03:24:56", "end": "03:25:00", "text": "cosmic order of of things, and they they"}, {"start": "03:24:58", "end": "03:25:02", "text": "have this huge feud. Well, I think that"}, {"start": "03:25:00", "end": "03:25:04", "text": "there's a priestly class of shamanic"}, {"start": "03:25:02", "end": "03:25:07", "text": "people in the Olmec world that are the"}, {"start": "03:25:04", "end": "03:25:08", "text": "were-jaguars. And it's this whole breed"}, {"start": "03:25:07", "end": "03:25:11", "text": "of people. They're not kings, but"}, {"start": "03:25:08", "end": "03:25:13", "text": "they're the religious leaders. They're"}, {"start": "03:25:11", "end": "03:25:15", "text": "the religious guides in the"}, {"start": "03:25:13", "end": "03:25:17", "text": "civilization. And the king himself is"}, {"start": "03:25:15", "end": "03:25:20", "text": "separate from that from that. And we can"}, {"start": "03:25:17", "end": "03:25:22", "text": "see all throughout the Olmec world of"}, {"start": "03:25:20", "end": "03:25:24", "text": "the Olmecs"}, {"start": "03:25:22", "end": "03:25:26", "text": "actually and I actually think that it's"}, {"start": "03:25:24", "end": "03:25:27", "text": "it's a totally one-sided thing as far as"}, {"start": "03:25:26", "end": "03:25:30", "text": "I can remember."}, {"start": "03:25:27", "end": "03:25:33", "text": "So many of the"}, {"start": "03:25:30", "end": "03:25:36", "text": "Olmec altars, which are it's basically"}, {"start": "03:25:33", "end": "03:25:38", "text": "like this huge stone table and inside of"}, {"start": "03:25:36", "end": "03:25:40", "text": "the table you see a man who's clearly a"}, {"start": "03:25:38", "end": "03:25:43", "text": "wear-jaguar with what looks like an"}, {"start": "03:25:40", "end": "03:25:45", "text": "elongated skull and I'll have this big"}, {"start": "03:25:43", "end": "03:25:47", "text": "hat thing on top of him with a uraeus"}, {"start": "03:25:45", "end": "03:25:49", "text": "just like this is crazy. Just like the"}, {"start": "03:25:47", "end": "03:25:51", "text": "Egyptian uraeus with the"}, {"start": "03:25:49", "end": "03:25:53", "text": ">> Really? Yeah, he has a he has a a um"}, {"start": "03:25:51", "end": "03:25:55", "text": "he has a it's either a fertile lance or"}, {"start": "03:25:53", "end": "03:25:56", "text": "it's a rattlesnake right here on the on"}, {"start": "03:25:55", "end": "03:25:58", "text": "the front of his headdress. You could"}, {"start": "03:25:56", "end": "03:26:00", "text": "look up a La Venta"}, {"start": "03:25:58", "end": "03:26:03", "text": "uh La Venta Olmec or Olmec La Venta"}, {"start": "03:26:00", "end": "03:26:05", "text": "altar and and it'll pop up."}, {"start": "03:26:03", "end": "03:26:07", "text": "And he's emerging from a cave and he's"}, {"start": "03:26:05", "end": "03:26:09", "text": "carrying a baby with him. The man has"}, {"start": "03:26:07", "end": "03:26:12", "text": "downturned lips and so does the baby."}, {"start": "03:26:09", "end": "03:26:13", "text": "And on the sides of the on the sides of"}, {"start": "03:26:12", "end": "03:26:14", "text": "the monument you have other grown"}, {"start": "03:26:13", "end": "03:26:17", "text": "people."}, {"start": "03:26:14", "end": "03:26:19", "text": "Okay, so it's going to be one of these."}, {"start": "03:26:17", "end": "03:26:20", "text": "Uh it's the it's the photo right below"}, {"start": "03:26:19", "end": "03:26:23", "text": "this one."}, {"start": "03:26:20", "end": "03:26:26", "text": "Yeah. Oh, that's no question. Yeah, so"}, {"start": "03:26:23", "end": "03:26:27", "text": "so he's got so he's got a um"}, {"start": "03:26:26", "end": "03:26:29", "text": "if you look really really closely there"}, {"start": "03:26:27", "end": "03:26:31", "text": "there is a snake that's coming out of"}, {"start": "03:26:29", "end": "03:26:33", "text": "the top of his hat. Um and so he's got"}, {"start": "03:26:31", "end": "03:26:34", "text": "downturned lips and he's holding a baby"}, {"start": "03:26:33", "end": "03:26:36", "text": "while emerging from the cave. And next"}, {"start": "03:26:34", "end": "03:26:38", "text": "to him you can see other people who also"}, {"start": "03:26:36", "end": "03:26:40", "text": "have the downturned lips also holding"}, {"start": "03:26:38", "end": "03:26:42", "text": "babies who have the downturned lips."}, {"start": "03:26:40", "end": "03:26:43", "text": "Now, what I think that this actually is"}, {"start": "03:26:42", "end": "03:26:46", "text": "and one day I got to make I got to make"}, {"start": "03:26:43", "end": "03:26:48", "text": "something like this is"}, {"start": "03:26:46", "end": "03:26:49", "text": "let's unwrap the monument where you have"}, {"start": "03:26:48", "end": "03:26:51", "text": "a scene here on the front and you have a"}, {"start": "03:26:49", "end": "03:26:53", "text": "scene here on the side. Let's unwrap it"}, {"start": "03:26:51", "end": "03:26:54", "text": "and flatten it out. What I think it is"}, {"start": "03:26:53", "end": "03:26:56", "text": "is it's a procession of these children"}, {"start": "03:26:54", "end": "03:26:58", "text": "because we found we know where the caves"}, {"start": "03:26:56", "end": "03:27:00", "text": "are that these people were making"}, {"start": "03:26:58", "end": "03:27:02", "text": "pilgrimages to in in Guerrero, Mexico."}, {"start": "03:27:00", "end": "03:27:03", "text": "They're going inside the caves. They're"}, {"start": "03:27:02", "end": "03:27:05", "text": "performing these mysteries inside of"}, {"start": "03:27:03", "end": "03:27:07", "text": "them. There's depictions carved into"}, {"start": "03:27:05", "end": "03:27:09", "text": "rocks at Chalcatzingo of a man sitting"}, {"start": "03:27:07", "end": "03:27:10", "text": "on a throne inside a cave. You can see"}, {"start": "03:27:09", "end": "03:27:12", "text": "the opening of the cave and you can see"}, {"start": "03:27:10", "end": "03:27:14", "text": "the wind like billowing out of it. He's"}, {"start": "03:27:12", "end": "03:27:16", "text": "also holding a baby."}, {"start": "03:27:14", "end": "03:27:18", "text": "So, what I think that they're doing is"}, {"start": "03:27:16", "end": "03:27:20", "text": "there's this rite of passage"}, {"start": "03:27:18", "end": "03:27:21", "text": "that a baby born with ectodermal"}, {"start": "03:27:20", "end": "03:27:24", "text": "dysplasia"}, {"start": "03:27:21", "end": "03:27:27", "text": "a were-jaguar uh has to go through as a"}, {"start": "03:27:24", "end": "03:27:29", "text": "baby to be"}, {"start": "03:27:27", "end": "03:27:31", "text": "Oh, well, I mean, it's like it's like"}, {"start": "03:27:29", "end": "03:27:33", "text": "having a It's like having a a Christian"}, {"start": "03:27:31", "end": "03:27:34", "text": "king being baptized as a baby, right?"}, {"start": "03:27:33", "end": "03:27:36", "text": "You have to go through the rites. And"}, {"start": "03:27:34", "end": "03:27:38", "text": "so, they're going through their"}, {"start": "03:27:36", "end": "03:27:39", "text": "mysteries, their rites as as uh"}, {"start": "03:27:38", "end": "03:27:41", "text": "children. And what I think that these"}, {"start": "03:27:39", "end": "03:27:44", "text": "altars are is [snorts] I think that that"}, {"start": "03:27:41", "end": "03:27:46", "text": "is a snapshot in time of when"}, {"start": "03:27:44", "end": "03:27:49", "text": "the shaman were-jaguar who's going to"}, {"start": "03:27:46", "end": "03:27:52", "text": "sit on top of it that baby being carried"}, {"start": "03:27:49", "end": "03:27:55", "text": "by the man, the baby is him. The It is a"}, {"start": "03:27:52", "end": "03:27:57", "text": "snapshot of when he was given the right"}, {"start": "03:27:55", "end": "03:28:00", "text": "of the power of the were-jaguar as a"}, {"start": "03:27:57", "end": "03:28:01", "text": "baby, right? And uh and we know that"}, {"start": "03:28:00", "end": "03:28:03", "text": "they're that they're sitting on top of"}, {"start": "03:28:01", "end": "03:28:06", "text": "it because there's a rock art painting"}, {"start": "03:28:03", "end": "03:28:08", "text": "of a uh of a of a were-jaguar ruler"}, {"start": "03:28:06", "end": "03:28:10", "text": "sitting in this like yoga pose on top of"}, {"start": "03:28:08", "end": "03:28:11", "text": "one of those altars. So, we know that"}, {"start": "03:28:10", "end": "03:28:13", "text": "they're sitting on top of them. What is"}, {"start": "03:28:11", "end": "03:28:15", "text": "the {quote} {unquote} mainstream view of"}, {"start": "03:28:13", "end": "03:28:18", "text": "those of"}, {"start": "03:28:15", "end": "03:28:20", "text": "Uh man, I I I I I don't I don't think"}, {"start": "03:28:18", "end": "03:28:23", "text": "that there really is one."}, {"start": "03:28:20", "end": "03:28:25", "text": "And then you're it? Yeah, I saw I saw a"}, {"start": "03:28:23", "end": "03:28:26", "text": "Well, I mean, I know that they're I"}, {"start": "03:28:25", "end": "03:28:28", "text": "It's kind of like um"}, {"start": "03:28:26", "end": "03:28:30", "text": "they they mostly mostly what they do is"}, {"start": "03:28:28", "end": "03:28:33", "text": "they they call it"}, {"start": "03:28:30", "end": "03:28:34", "text": "ancestor veneration. It's all these"}, {"start": "03:28:33", "end": "03:28:37", "text": "broadly vague terms. I saw a guy"}, {"start": "03:28:34", "end": "03:28:39", "text": "recently who uh he's like a really"}, {"start": "03:28:37", "end": "03:28:42", "text": "mainstream sort of academic and he did a"}, {"start": "03:28:39", "end": "03:28:43", "text": "video on the Olmecs and I was curious"}, {"start": "03:28:42", "end": "03:28:45", "text": "what he was going to say about these"}, {"start": "03:28:43", "end": "03:28:47", "text": "monuments and I saw like his little part"}, {"start": "03:28:45", "end": "03:28:49", "text": "where he's standing in front of it and"}, {"start": "03:28:47", "end": "03:28:51", "text": "explaining it and I was like"}, {"start": "03:28:49", "end": "03:28:53", "text": "No. No, it's not even It just It's"}, {"start": "03:28:51", "end": "03:28:57", "text": "missing all of the nuance. It's fine,"}, {"start": "03:28:53", "end": "03:29:00", "text": "but it's missing all of the uh"}, {"start": "03:28:57", "end": "03:29:03", "text": "everything. You know, so anyways, um but"}, {"start": "03:29:00", "end": "03:29:05", "text": "I think that I think that um"}, {"start": "03:29:03", "end": "03:29:07", "text": "as you go throughout the Olmec world,"}, {"start": "03:29:05", "end": "03:29:08", "text": "you can see that there's two different"}, {"start": "03:29:07", "end": "03:29:09", "text": "um"}, {"start": "03:29:08", "end": "03:29:11", "text": "groups of people. You've got these royal"}, {"start": "03:29:09", "end": "03:29:13", "text": "families that are headed by these Olmec"}, {"start": "03:29:11", "end": "03:29:14", "text": "heads. Those guys are probably kings."}, {"start": "03:29:13", "end": "03:29:16", "text": "They're They're Each of them are"}, {"start": "03:29:14", "end": "03:29:18", "text": "portraits and there's just no other way"}, {"start": "03:29:16", "end": "03:29:20", "text": "to explain it other than the fact that"}, {"start": "03:29:18", "end": "03:29:21", "text": "the most powerful guy around had to have"}, {"start": "03:29:20", "end": "03:29:23", "text": "commissioned that. But, you also have"}, {"start": "03:29:21", "end": "03:29:25", "text": "massive monuments, never really heads"}, {"start": "03:29:23", "end": "03:29:26", "text": "that are made out of basalt, but you got"}, {"start": "03:29:25", "end": "03:29:28", "text": "these big altars like we were looking at"}, {"start": "03:29:26", "end": "03:29:30", "text": "that are made for the were-jaguars. But,"}, {"start": "03:29:28", "end": "03:29:33", "text": "you know what's really interesting is if"}, {"start": "03:29:30", "end": "03:29:35", "text": "all of those altars are typically"}, {"start": "03:29:33", "end": "03:29:36", "text": "smaller than like the average Olmec"}, {"start": "03:29:35", "end": "03:29:38", "text": "head."}, {"start": "03:29:36", "end": "03:29:41", "text": "And you can tell on some of them that"}, {"start": "03:29:38", "end": "03:29:43", "text": "there's an ear on the backside of it. It"}, {"start": "03:29:41", "end": "03:29:45", "text": "was a head that used to exist that was"}, {"start": "03:29:43", "end": "03:29:47", "text": "carved down and away and turned into a"}, {"start": "03:29:45", "end": "03:29:49", "text": "were-jaguar Wow."}, {"start": "03:29:47", "end": "03:29:52", "text": ">> monument. And there's even a There's"}, {"start": "03:29:49", "end": "03:29:54", "text": "even a an Olmec head that was never"}, {"start": "03:29:52", "end": "03:29:56", "text": "actually a head, but it but it was a"}, {"start": "03:29:54", "end": "03:29:58", "text": "smaller piece of"}, {"start": "03:29:56", "end": "03:29:59", "text": "smaller flat like"}, {"start": "03:29:58", "end": "03:30:01", "text": "uh"}, {"start": "03:29:59", "end": "03:30:03", "text": "rounded piece of stone that they carved"}, {"start": "03:30:01", "end": "03:30:06", "text": "a face into it and then they carved"}, {"start": "03:30:03", "end": "03:30:08", "text": "these these jaguar claw marks across the"}, {"start": "03:30:06", "end": "03:30:10", "text": "head and just just like maimed and and"}, {"start": "03:30:08", "end": "03:30:11", "text": "destroyed the face on it. And I think"}, {"start": "03:30:10", "end": "03:30:12", "text": "that it's I think this public"}, {"start": "03:30:11", "end": "03:30:15", "text": "architecture that's showing that the"}, {"start": "03:30:12", "end": "03:30:17", "text": "were-jaguar priest class is warring with"}, {"start": "03:30:15", "end": "03:30:20", "text": "the Olmecs. Yeah, that's telling a"}, {"start": "03:30:17", "end": "03:30:22", "text": "story. And and they often say that uh"}, {"start": "03:30:20", "end": "03:30:23", "text": "this is It's kind of like It's kind of"}, {"start": "03:30:22", "end": "03:30:25", "text": "like the mystery of Göbekli Tepe. We"}, {"start": "03:30:23", "end": "03:30:26", "text": "don't know what was intentionally buried"}, {"start": "03:30:25", "end": "03:30:28", "text": "and what wasn't. Like if it was"}, {"start": "03:30:26", "end": "03:30:30", "text": "intentionally buried, they they call it"}, {"start": "03:30:28", "end": "03:30:32", "text": "ritual deactivation where it's like"}, {"start": "03:30:30", "end": "03:30:34", "text": "taking away the power from it. Now, we"}, {"start": "03:30:32", "end": "03:30:36", "text": "don't know if it's the Olmecs doing it"}, {"start": "03:30:34", "end": "03:30:38", "text": "themselves"}, {"start": "03:30:36", "end": "03:30:38", "text": "or if it's warring factions inside the"}, {"start": "03:30:38", "end": "03:30:40", "text": "Olmec world."}, {"start": "03:30:38", "end": "03:30:41", "text": ">> heads were intentionally buried. Yeah,"}, {"start": "03:30:40", "end": "03:30:43", "text": "yeah. And we don't know if it was other"}, {"start": "03:30:41", "end": "03:30:44", "text": "civilizations that came and buried them"}, {"start": "03:30:43", "end": "03:30:46", "text": "like if they got conquered and the"}, {"start": "03:30:44", "end": "03:30:47", "text": "civilization that conquered them buried"}, {"start": "03:30:46", "end": "03:30:50", "text": "their think that that's I don't think"}, {"start": "03:30:47", "end": "03:30:52", "text": "there's any evidence behind that at all."}, {"start": "03:30:50", "end": "03:30:54", "text": "Um and then they think that the Olmecs"}, {"start": "03:30:52", "end": "03:30:56", "text": "Um and then they think that the Olmecs"}, {"start": "03:30:54", "end": "03:30:58", "text": "may have done it themselves,"}, {"start": "03:30:56", "end": "03:31:00", "text": "but not out of the official narrate the"}, {"start": "03:30:58", "end": "03:31:01", "text": "official idea is that it was"}, {"start": "03:31:00", "end": "03:31:03", "text": "they were done it was done themselves,"}, {"start": "03:31:01", "end": "03:31:05", "text": "but not out of confrontation. It was"}, {"start": "03:31:03", "end": "03:31:07", "text": "like ritual deactivation. So, maybe at"}, {"start": "03:31:05", "end": "03:31:09", "text": "the end of the ruler's life they buried"}, {"start": "03:31:07", "end": "03:31:11", "text": "the head. I don't I don't agree with"}, {"start": "03:31:09", "end": "03:31:12", "text": "that either. Um because at the top of"}, {"start": "03:31:11", "end": "03:31:14", "text": "the all the heads, the thing that's"}, {"start": "03:31:12", "end": "03:31:16", "text": "ignored here"}, {"start": "03:31:14", "end": "03:31:18", "text": "is the only claw marks that you actually"}, {"start": "03:31:16", "end": "03:31:19", "text": "see on top or the only claw marks that"}, {"start": "03:31:18", "end": "03:31:21", "text": "you will see on the Olmec heads. We"}, {"start": "03:31:19", "end": "03:31:23", "text": "could look them up right now. They're on"}, {"start": "03:31:21", "end": "03:31:25", "text": "the top of the head. And I think it's I"}, {"start": "03:31:23", "end": "03:31:26", "text": "think it's probably at certain points"}, {"start": "03:31:25", "end": "03:31:29", "text": "throughout the civilization the"}, {"start": "03:31:26", "end": "03:31:32", "text": "were-jaguars toppled the control of the"}, {"start": "03:31:29", "end": "03:31:33", "text": "Olmec kings, buried it down, maybe the"}, {"start": "03:31:32", "end": "03:31:36", "text": "head is maybe the top is exposed, and"}, {"start": "03:31:33", "end": "03:31:37", "text": "they claw up the whole top of the helmet"}, {"start": "03:31:36", "end": "03:31:40", "text": "where the symbols are."}, {"start": "03:31:37", "end": "03:31:42", "text": ">> Yep. They they claw those away, but"}, {"start": "03:31:40", "end": "03:31:44", "text": "it's it's actually a carving of a claw"}, {"start": "03:31:42", "end": "03:31:46", "text": "mark cuz you can put all five of your"}, {"start": "03:31:44", "end": "03:31:48", "text": "fingers in it and follow it like it's"}, {"start": "03:31:46", "end": "03:31:50", "text": "like it's a deep claw mark. So, they're"}, {"start": "03:31:48", "end": "03:31:50", "text": "carving. They're taking the time to"}, {"start": "03:31:50", "end": "03:31:53", "text": "carve"}, {"start": "03:31:50", "end": "03:31:55", "text": ">> isn't vandalism. This is sculpture."}, {"start": "03:31:53", "end": "03:31:58", "text": "Sculpture"}, {"start": "03:31:55", "end": "03:32:00", "text": "sculptural vandalism, right? It's like"}, {"start": "03:31:58", "end": "03:32:02", "text": "this was this sculpture was created 150"}, {"start": "03:32:00", "end": "03:32:03", "text": "years ago or something. Well, now we're"}, {"start": "03:32:02", "end": "03:32:06", "text": "going to bury it, and we're going to"}, {"start": "03:32:03", "end": "03:32:07", "text": "carve claw marks into it to make it to"}, {"start": "03:32:06", "end": "03:32:09", "text": "make it known"}, {"start": "03:32:07", "end": "03:32:11", "text": "that this is what happens when you"}, {"start": "03:32:09", "end": "03:32:12", "text": "challenge the cult of the were-jaguar,"}, {"start": "03:32:11", "end": "03:32:15", "text": "right? You know, something something"}, {"start": "03:32:12", "end": "03:32:17", "text": "like that. Um and all over the Olmec"}, {"start": "03:32:15", "end": "03:32:18", "text": "world you can see"}, {"start": "03:32:17", "end": "03:32:20", "text": "it's not just claw marks like they"}, {"start": "03:32:18", "end": "03:32:23", "text": "scratched into it with something."}, {"start": "03:32:20", "end": "03:32:26", "text": "They took the time with tools to chisel"}, {"start": "03:32:23", "end": "03:32:28", "text": "long deep five-finger claw marks"}, {"start": "03:32:26", "end": "03:32:29", "text": "throughout throughout these monuments."}, {"start": "03:32:28", "end": "03:32:32", "text": "This happens hundreds and hundreds of"}, {"start": "03:32:29", "end": "03:32:33", "text": "times. Claw marks on hundreds of these?"}, {"start": "03:32:32", "end": "03:32:35", "text": "Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh hundreds of"}, {"start": "03:32:33", "end": "03:32:38", "text": "different monuments throughout. And and"}, {"start": "03:32:35", "end": "03:32:41", "text": "several different like a dozen different"}, {"start": "03:32:38", "end": "03:32:42", "text": "times like sh sh sh sh like you can"}, {"start": "03:32:41", "end": "03:32:43", "text": "imagine"}, {"start": "03:32:42", "end": "03:32:45", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "03:32:43", "end": "03:32:47", "text": ">> that a were-jaguar clawed at a monument,"}, {"start": "03:32:45", "end": "03:32:49", "text": "and they make it look like that. Like a"}, {"start": "03:32:47", "end": "03:32:52", "text": "were-jaguar just mauled this guy the top"}, {"start": "03:32:49", "end": "03:32:54", "text": "of this guy's helmet took away his whole"}, {"start": "03:32:52", "end": "03:32:56", "text": "insignia you know just just disgrace his"}, {"start": "03:32:54", "end": "03:32:57", "text": "power and then they buried him. That's"}, {"start": "03:32:56", "end": "03:32:59", "text": "what I think that I'm seeing especially"}, {"start": "03:32:57", "end": "03:33:01", "text": "when you see the monument of what looks"}, {"start": "03:32:59", "end": "03:33:03", "text": "like an Olmec"}, {"start": "03:33:01", "end": "03:33:04", "text": "uh head face and his whole face is just"}, {"start": "03:33:03", "end": "03:33:05", "text": "torn to shreds."}, {"start": "03:33:04", "end": "03:33:09", "text": ">> Could it be possible that the"}, {"start": "03:33:05", "end": "03:33:11", "text": "were-jaguar is a later culture"}, {"start": "03:33:09", "end": "03:33:13", "text": "and they're just the heads are there and"}, {"start": "03:33:11", "end": "03:33:15", "text": "they want to bury these and and dominate"}, {"start": "03:33:13", "end": "03:33:16", "text": "that earlier culture?"}, {"start": "03:33:15", "end": "03:33:18", "text": "Or do you think it's just think they're"}, {"start": "03:33:16", "end": "03:33:20", "text": "contemporaries?"}, {"start": "03:33:18", "end": "03:33:22", "text": "That's a good question. I don't know. I"}, {"start": "03:33:20", "end": "03:33:23", "text": "think it I think it's all happens at the"}, {"start": "03:33:22", "end": "03:33:24", "text": "same time because"}, {"start": "03:33:23", "end": "03:33:26", "text": "um"}, {"start": "03:33:24", "end": "03:33:27", "text": "Well, I mean I love stuff that Yeah."}, {"start": "03:33:26", "end": "03:33:28", "text": "that we just find"}, {"start": "03:33:27", "end": "03:33:29", "text": ">> See the top of his See the top of his"}, {"start": "03:33:28", "end": "03:33:31", "text": "head?"}, {"start": "03:33:29", "end": "03:33:33", "text": ">> yeah, that's that's vandalism sculpture."}, {"start": "03:33:31", "end": "03:33:34", "text": "That's clearly intentional."}, {"start": "03:33:33", "end": "03:33:35", "text": ">> [snorts]"}, {"start": "03:33:34", "end": "03:33:37", "text": ">> That That's an interesting question"}, {"start": "03:33:35", "end": "03:33:39", "text": "about can can both these be happening at"}, {"start": "03:33:37", "end": "03:33:40", "text": "the same time? Um"}, {"start": "03:33:39", "end": "03:33:42", "text": "I think that they're happening at the"}, {"start": "03:33:40", "end": "03:33:45", "text": "same time because it's"}, {"start": "03:33:42", "end": "03:33:46", "text": "you see the similar art styles between"}, {"start": "03:33:45", "end": "03:33:48", "text": "the heads and and everything else."}, {"start": "03:33:46", "end": "03:33:51", "text": "They're also using the same trade"}, {"start": "03:33:48", "end": "03:33:54", "text": "routes. Like we we have found"}, {"start": "03:33:51", "end": "03:33:56", "text": "some of the roads where the where the"}, {"start": "03:33:54", "end": "03:33:58", "text": "all the monuments are being transported"}, {"start": "03:33:56", "end": "03:33:59", "text": "across land and everything. So, I think"}, {"start": "03:33:58", "end": "03:34:01", "text": "it's all interacting each other"}, {"start": "03:33:59", "end": "03:34:03", "text": "happening the same time. But what I"}, {"start": "03:34:01", "end": "03:34:05", "text": "think it is is that the let's say the"}, {"start": "03:34:03", "end": "03:34:07", "text": "the the royalty versus the shamans these"}, {"start": "03:34:05", "end": "03:34:08", "text": "rise these fall. You know, it's like"}, {"start": "03:34:07", "end": "03:34:10", "text": "this. So, it's certain points times"}, {"start": "03:34:08", "end": "03:34:12", "text": "there there might be not be a king at"}, {"start": "03:34:10", "end": "03:34:14", "text": "all. It's just the were-jaguars"}, {"start": "03:34:12", "end": "03:34:15", "text": "dominating everything and burying all"}, {"start": "03:34:14", "end": "03:34:17", "text": "these people. And so, I think this is"}, {"start": "03:34:15", "end": "03:34:20", "text": "going on for like almost 2,000 years."}, {"start": "03:34:17", "end": "03:34:23", "text": ">> Yeah. And and I actually I'm I believe"}, {"start": "03:34:20", "end": "03:34:24", "text": "I'm standing out on an island by myself"}, {"start": "03:34:23", "end": "03:34:26", "text": "with this theory. I don't think there's"}, {"start": "03:34:24", "end": "03:34:27", "text": "I don't think there's a single other"}, {"start": "03:34:26", "end": "03:34:29", "text": "academic that that would that would back"}, {"start": "03:34:27", "end": "03:34:30", "text": "this up. But it seems obvious to me that"}, {"start": "03:34:29", "end": "03:34:32", "text": "it that it's"}, {"start": "03:34:30", "end": "03:34:34", "text": "two different factions like"}, {"start": "03:34:32", "end": "03:34:38", "text": "warring against each other. Ultimately"}, {"start": "03:34:34", "end": "03:34:41", "text": "though, um the last main Olmec cultural"}, {"start": "03:34:38", "end": "03:34:44", "text": "center is a place called Tres Zapotes"}, {"start": "03:34:41", "end": "03:34:45", "text": "and that rises somewhere around 250 BC."}, {"start": "03:34:44", "end": "03:34:47", "text": "So, like"}, {"start": "03:34:45", "end": "03:34:49", "text": "the Olmecs have been around for 2,000"}, {"start": "03:34:47", "end": "03:34:51", "text": "years at this point. And when that"}, {"start": "03:34:49", "end": "03:34:53", "text": "cultural center takes hold and they"}, {"start": "03:34:51", "end": "03:34:54", "text": "build this massive city,"}, {"start": "03:34:53", "end": "03:34:56", "text": "they've got a few heads there, a bunch"}, {"start": "03:34:54", "end": "03:34:59", "text": "of bunch of stone"}, {"start": "03:34:56", "end": "03:35:01", "text": "monuments, no were-jaguars. So,"}, {"start": "03:34:59", "end": "03:35:03", "text": "somewhere between"}, {"start": "03:35:01", "end": "03:35:05", "text": "about 500 BC towards the latter part of"}, {"start": "03:35:03", "end": "03:35:07", "text": "La Venta and the rise of this next"}, {"start": "03:35:05", "end": "03:35:09", "text": "cultural center called Tres Potestas,"}, {"start": "03:35:07", "end": "03:35:10", "text": "the were-jaguar just"}, {"start": "03:35:09", "end": "03:35:11", "text": "disappears into"}, {"start": "03:35:10", "end": "03:35:13", "text": ">> time. That's interesting."}, {"start": "03:35:11", "end": "03:35:16", "text": ">> And from that point on, dominating"}, {"start": "03:35:13", "end": "03:35:19", "text": "Mesoamerica will be the pantheon of gods"}, {"start": "03:35:16", "end": "03:35:22", "text": "that's worshipped by the Maya and the"}, {"start": "03:35:19", "end": "03:35:25", "text": "Zapotecs, later the Teotihuacans,"}, {"start": "03:35:22", "end": "03:35:26", "text": "and and this shamanistic culture that's"}, {"start": "03:35:25", "end": "03:35:29", "text": "like"}, {"start": "03:35:26", "end": "03:35:31", "text": "supremely shamanistic, where where"}, {"start": "03:35:29", "end": "03:35:34", "text": "people are almost like transforming into"}, {"start": "03:35:31", "end": "03:35:36", "text": "other beings, becomes secondary if not"}, {"start": "03:35:34", "end": "03:35:38", "text": "completely disappears. We see in some"}, {"start": "03:35:36", "end": "03:35:40", "text": "places in the Maya world, like out in"}, {"start": "03:35:38", "end": "03:35:42", "text": "Belize,"}, {"start": "03:35:40", "end": "03:35:44", "text": "where Belize was connected to the Olmecs"}, {"start": "03:35:42", "end": "03:35:45", "text": "in a way, in a particular way. The Maya"}, {"start": "03:35:44", "end": "03:35:47", "text": "people of the Belize of Belize were"}, {"start": "03:35:45", "end": "03:35:48", "text": "connected to the Olmecs in a particular"}, {"start": "03:35:47", "end": "03:35:49", "text": "way that the rest of the Maya world was"}, {"start": "03:35:48", "end": "03:35:52", "text": "not."}, {"start": "03:35:49", "end": "03:35:55", "text": "And I just learned when I was in Belize"}, {"start": "03:35:52", "end": "03:35:57", "text": "like a couple months ago from um"}, {"start": "03:35:55", "end": "03:35:59", "text": "you Belize is so overlooked and so"}, {"start": "03:35:57", "end": "03:36:01", "text": "underfunded and understudied in"}, {"start": "03:35:59", "end": "03:36:05", "text": "archaeology that I learned that there"}, {"start": "03:36:01", "end": "03:36:06", "text": "are only five active PhD archaeologists"}, {"start": "03:36:05", "end": "03:36:06", "text": "in the entire country of Belize."}, {"start": "03:36:06", "end": "03:36:09", "text": ">> What?"}, {"start": "03:36:06", "end": "03:36:11", "text": ">> Only five. Oh, I should say no, no, no."}, {"start": "03:36:09", "end": "03:36:13", "text": "There's only five of them and like two"}, {"start": "03:36:11", "end": "03:36:14", "text": "or three of them are active."}, {"start": "03:36:13", "end": "03:36:14", "text": "Yeah, how crazy is that?"}, {"start": "03:36:14", "end": "03:36:16", "text": ">> It's crazy."}, {"start": "03:36:14", "end": "03:36:19", "text": ">> So, you have this whole massive world"}, {"start": "03:36:16", "end": "03:36:21", "text": "there. But the we know that the Maya of"}, {"start": "03:36:19", "end": "03:36:24", "text": "Belize were interacting with the Olmecs"}, {"start": "03:36:21", "end": "03:36:26", "text": "because way early on before the rest of"}, {"start": "03:36:24", "end": "03:36:28", "text": "the Maya world even uh"}, {"start": "03:36:26", "end": "03:36:31", "text": "even accepts or adopts divine kingship,"}, {"start": "03:36:28", "end": "03:36:33", "text": "there was a a kingdom in the there was a"}, {"start": "03:36:31", "end": "03:36:35", "text": "kingdom on the coast there that had"}, {"start": "03:36:33", "end": "03:36:36", "text": "trade connections all the way back with"}, {"start": "03:36:35", "end": "03:36:38", "text": "the Olmec world cuz we can see that they"}, {"start": "03:36:36", "end": "03:36:39", "text": "had that they're sharing things. Like"}, {"start": "03:36:38", "end": "03:36:41", "text": "the Olmec people have artifacts that"}, {"start": "03:36:39", "end": "03:36:44", "text": "you'd only find in the coast of Belize"}, {"start": "03:36:41", "end": "03:36:46", "text": "and vice versa. And so these people on"}, {"start": "03:36:44", "end": "03:36:48", "text": "the uh city called Cerros, they try a"}, {"start": "03:36:46", "end": "03:36:51", "text": "kingdom and it works for like 150 years"}, {"start": "03:36:48", "end": "03:36:52", "text": "and and collapses. But surviving there"}, {"start": "03:36:51", "end": "03:36:54", "text": "throughout the rest of the Maya world,"}, {"start": "03:36:52", "end": "03:36:56", "text": "just in Belize. And you have to think"}, {"start": "03:36:54", "end": "03:36:57", "text": "the Maya world is not a monolith."}, {"start": "03:36:56", "end": "03:37:00", "text": "They're not like when one guy makes a"}, {"start": "03:36:57", "end": "03:37:02", "text": "decision in Tikal, it doesn't you know,"}, {"start": "03:37:00", "end": "03:37:03", "text": "become law for everybody else. It's like"}, {"start": "03:37:02", "end": "03:37:05", "text": "it's like the Greeks. They have"}, {"start": "03:37:03", "end": "03:37:08", "text": "city-states."}, {"start": "03:37:05", "end": "03:37:10", "text": "But the were-jaguar survived in Belize"}, {"start": "03:37:08", "end": "03:37:13", "text": "for all the way until the classic"}, {"start": "03:37:10", "end": "03:37:15", "text": "period, like 2, 3,000 years later, where"}, {"start": "03:37:13", "end": "03:37:15", "text": ">> For thousands of years the were-jaguar"}, {"start": "03:37:15", "end": "03:37:16", "text": "continued."}, {"start": "03:37:15", "end": "03:37:18", "text": ">> Survived in Belize. And I didn't I did"}, {"start": "03:37:16", "end": "03:37:20", "text": "not know that. And I I"}, {"start": "03:37:18", "end": "03:37:23", "text": "I was that was shown to me by an"}, {"start": "03:37:20", "end": "03:37:26", "text": "archaeologist named Raphael. And he took"}, {"start": "03:37:23", "end": "03:37:28", "text": "us on a he took us on a tour through ATM"}, {"start": "03:37:26", "end": "03:37:30", "text": "cave, which is really really cool. And"}, {"start": "03:37:28", "end": "03:37:33", "text": "he showed me on the side of this pot a"}, {"start": "03:37:30", "end": "03:37:35", "text": "were-jaguar. Would made in like"}, {"start": "03:37:33", "end": "03:37:38", "text": "classical Maya form, but it was a man"}, {"start": "03:37:35", "end": "03:37:40", "text": "who was actually a jaguar. Yeah. And it"}, {"start": "03:37:38", "end": "03:37:42", "text": "doesn't exist anywhere else in"}, {"start": "03:37:40", "end": "03:37:43", "text": "in the Maya world, but of course it"}, {"start": "03:37:42", "end": "03:37:45", "text": "exists in the one place that was"}, {"start": "03:37:43", "end": "03:37:46", "text": "actually connected to the Olmecs"}, {"start": "03:37:45", "end": "03:37:48", "text": "thousands of years earlier. So that"}, {"start": "03:37:46", "end": "03:37:50", "text": "influence that the Olmecs had on those"}, {"start": "03:37:48", "end": "03:37:52", "text": "people of the were-jaguar stuck with"}, {"start": "03:37:50", "end": "03:37:55", "text": "them for a thousand years after the"}, {"start": "03:37:52", "end": "03:37:56", "text": "Olmecs had fallen. Yeah, that's really"}, {"start": "03:37:55", "end": "03:37:57", "text": "cool."}, {"start": "03:37:56", "end": "03:37:58", "text": ">> Um can I keep you for one last quick"}, {"start": "03:37:57", "end": "03:37:59", "text": "second?"}, {"start": "03:37:58", "end": "03:38:00", "text": ">> Sure, let's do it."}, {"start": "03:37:59", "end": "03:38:02", "text": "So we were talking about half-man,"}, {"start": "03:38:00", "end": "03:38:03", "text": "half-jaguar. When we come back, can we"}, {"start": "03:38:02", "end": "03:38:06", "text": "talk about half-man, half-bull?"}, {"start": "03:38:03", "end": "03:38:07", "text": "Half-man, half-bull, let's do it."}, {"start": "03:38:06", "end": "03:38:09", "text": "All right. Thanks for hanging out for"}, {"start": "03:38:07", "end": "03:38:11", "text": "one more. I appreciate it."}, {"start": "03:38:09", "end": "03:38:12", "text": "I had so much."}, {"start": "03:38:11", "end": "03:38:15", "text": "I know, did we get to most of it?"}, {"start": "03:38:12", "end": "03:38:18", "text": ">> Mo- almost. I was really excited to hear"}, {"start": "03:38:15", "end": "03:38:19", "text": "you talking about the Minoans cuz I"}, {"start": "03:38:18", "end": "03:38:21", "text": "don't think they get enough love."}, {"start": "03:38:19", "end": "03:38:23", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "03:38:21", "end": "03:38:24", "text": "Can you tell us a little Minoan story?"}, {"start": "03:38:23", "end": "03:38:24", "text": "Who were they?"}, {"start": "03:38:24", "end": "03:38:28", "text": ">> [clears throat]"}, {"start": "03:38:24", "end": "03:38:29", "text": ">> Yeah, so the Minoans are um"}, {"start": "03:38:28", "end": "03:38:31", "text": "you know, they're another one of these"}, {"start": "03:38:29", "end": "03:38:32", "text": "civilizations sort of like the Olmecs."}, {"start": "03:38:31", "end": "03:38:35", "text": "They're a"}, {"start": "03:38:32", "end": "03:38:37", "text": "If the Olmecs are a pre-Mesoamerican"}, {"start": "03:38:35", "end": "03:38:40", "text": "society, well, the Minoans are like a"}, {"start": "03:38:37", "end": "03:38:43", "text": "pre-Greek society. The Minoans really"}, {"start": "03:38:40", "end": "03:38:45", "text": "might not even be Greek at all. Um we"}, {"start": "03:38:43", "end": "03:38:46", "text": "don't quite understand their racial"}, {"start": "03:38:45", "end": "03:38:48", "text": "composition or where they came from or"}, {"start": "03:38:46", "end": "03:38:51", "text": "what or what culture they subscribe to."}, {"start": "03:38:48", "end": "03:38:52", "text": "They're like their own people, but uh"}, {"start": "03:38:51", "end": "03:38:53", "text": "And we don't know what they called"}, {"start": "03:38:52", "end": "03:38:54", "text": "themselves. We don't know what they We"}, {"start": "03:38:53", "end": "03:38:56", "text": "don't even know what they called"}, {"start": "03:38:54", "end": "03:38:58", "text": "themselves. How crazy is that? We don't"}, {"start": "03:38:56", "end": "03:39:01", "text": "even know what language they spoke. Same"}, {"start": "03:38:58", "end": "03:39:04", "text": "same sort of thing. Um but the Minoan"}, {"start": "03:39:01", "end": "03:39:06", "text": "society is uh man, I I I love the"}, {"start": "03:39:04", "end": "03:39:09", "text": "Minoans. Um"}, {"start": "03:39:06", "end": "03:39:13", "text": "it's uh"}, {"start": "03:39:09", "end": "03:39:13", "text": "I got fascinated with the Minoans."}, {"start": "03:39:13", "end": "03:39:17", "text": "The The movie of uh Troy, all the"}, {"start": "03:39:15", "end": "03:39:21", "text": "architecture that's pulled from that is"}, {"start": "03:39:17", "end": "03:39:23", "text": "mostly from uh Knossos. And um so this"}, {"start": "03:39:21", "end": "03:39:25", "text": "was So Knossos the on Crete. Knossos,"}, {"start": "03:39:23", "end": "03:39:26", "text": "which is which is"}, {"start": "03:39:25", "end": "03:39:29", "text": "They call it the Minoan capital, but we"}, {"start": "03:39:26", "end": "03:39:30", "text": "don't even know if that's what it was."}, {"start": "03:39:29", "end": "03:39:32", "text": "Um but"}, {"start": "03:39:30", "end": "03:39:34", "text": "uh so the Minoans,"}, {"start": "03:39:32", "end": "03:39:38", "text": "they arrive"}, {"start": "03:39:34", "end": "03:39:39", "text": "We start seeing their culture form"}, {"start": "03:39:38", "end": "03:39:42", "text": "whether coincidentally or not"}, {"start": "03:39:39", "end": "03:39:45", "text": "coincidentally uh on the island of Crete"}, {"start": "03:39:42", "end": "03:39:48", "text": "on around 3100 BC."}, {"start": "03:39:45", "end": "03:39:50", "text": "Same [snorts] century. Same century as"}, {"start": "03:39:48", "end": "03:39:52", "text": "when as when Egypt arises. My guess, not"}, {"start": "03:39:50", "end": "03:39:54", "text": "a coincidence. My guess, the ancient"}, {"start": "03:39:52", "end": "03:39:55", "text": "world's much more interconnected with"}, {"start": "03:39:54", "end": "03:39:57", "text": "each other than we can possibly"}, {"start": "03:39:55", "end": "03:39:57", "text": "understand. Oh my gosh, I got to tell"}, {"start": "03:39:57", "end": "03:39:59", "text": "you this."}, {"start": "03:39:57", "end": "03:40:02", "text": ">> What?"}, {"start": "03:39:59", "end": "03:40:03", "text": "Do you want to talk about it?"}, {"start": "03:40:02", "end": "03:40:04", "text": "I don't know if I told you this yet or"}, {"start": "03:40:03", "end": "03:40:06", "text": "if I was talking with your brother about"}, {"start": "03:40:04", "end": "03:40:07", "text": "this. What happened? Um"}, {"start": "03:40:06", "end": "03:40:09", "text": "No, it was You and I were talking in the"}, {"start": "03:40:07", "end": "03:40:11", "text": "other room when I told you about the the"}, {"start": "03:40:09", "end": "03:40:13", "text": "that Roman city in the Dakleh Oasis way"}, {"start": "03:40:11", "end": "03:40:16", "text": "out in the middle way out in the middle"}, {"start": "03:40:13", "end": "03:40:18", "text": "of Egypt. So in southern Egypt, you"}, {"start": "03:40:16", "end": "03:40:21", "text": "follow the Nile"}, {"start": "03:40:18", "end": "03:40:23", "text": "700 miles after you get into Egypt, and"}, {"start": "03:40:21", "end": "03:40:25", "text": "then you go you head west for who knows?"}, {"start": "03:40:23", "end": "03:40:27", "text": "It probably takes a week to get out"}, {"start": "03:40:25", "end": "03:40:28", "text": "there from from the Nile itself, but you"}, {"start": "03:40:27", "end": "03:40:29", "text": "reaches place called the Dakhla Oasis,"}, {"start": "03:40:28", "end": "03:40:31", "text": "which are these"}, {"start": "03:40:29", "end": "03:40:33", "text": "huge reservoirs that create fertile land"}, {"start": "03:40:31", "end": "03:40:34", "text": "just next to the reservoirs. Ancient"}, {"start": "03:40:33", "end": "03:40:37", "text": "people have been living there since"}, {"start": "03:40:34", "end": "03:40:39", "text": "12,500 BC. Um"}, {"start": "03:40:37", "end": "03:40:41", "text": "and [clears throat] they eventually were"}, {"start": "03:40:39", "end": "03:40:44", "text": "consumed into and wrapped into the"}, {"start": "03:40:41", "end": "03:40:45", "text": "dynastic Egyptian world. Well, when the"}, {"start": "03:40:44", "end": "03:40:46", "text": "um"}, {"start": "03:40:45", "end": "03:40:48", "text": "when the Romans, as we were talking"}, {"start": "03:40:46", "end": "03:40:51", "text": "about, when they took over Egypt, they"}, {"start": "03:40:48", "end": "03:40:53", "text": "built a Roman colony down there. And the"}, {"start": "03:40:51", "end": "03:40:57", "text": "ancient world was so interconnected,"}, {"start": "03:40:53", "end": "03:40:59", "text": "news could spread so quickly that even"}, {"start": "03:40:57", "end": "03:41:01", "text": "uh during this period of like uh 70"}, {"start": "03:40:59", "end": "03:41:02", "text": "emperors in 70 days or something in"}, {"start": "03:41:01", "end": "03:41:04", "text": "Rome,"}, {"start": "03:41:02", "end": "03:41:07", "text": "they changed the inscriptions on one of"}, {"start": "03:41:04", "end": "03:41:09", "text": "the temple walls to reflect an emperor"}, {"start": "03:41:07", "end": "03:41:11", "text": "that was only alive as emperor and and"}, {"start": "03:41:09", "end": "03:41:12", "text": "and on the throne for 90 days. That's"}, {"start": "03:41:11", "end": "03:41:14", "text": "crazy."}, {"start": "03:41:12", "end": "03:41:16", "text": ">> able to change the uh yeah, so there's"}, {"start": "03:41:14", "end": "03:41:18", "text": "there's Dakhla Oasis. So, they were uh"}, {"start": "03:41:16", "end": "03:41:22", "text": "they were able to change the inscription"}, {"start": "03:41:18", "end": "03:41:23", "text": "of the emperor that quickly. So, that's"}, {"start": "03:41:22", "end": "03:41:25", "text": "1,200"}, {"start": "03:41:23", "end": "03:41:27", "text": "to 1,200 plus miles."}, {"start": "03:41:25", "end": "03:41:29", "text": ">> Right. That's unbelievable. Yeah. Yeah,"}, {"start": "03:41:27", "end": "03:41:31", "text": "so there So, information gets around"}, {"start": "03:41:29", "end": "03:41:33", "text": "just like that. And my guess is it"}, {"start": "03:41:31", "end": "03:41:36", "text": "always had been and um"}, {"start": "03:41:33", "end": "03:41:37", "text": "and we [snorts] just it's invisible, but"}, {"start": "03:41:36", "end": "03:41:40", "text": "it's hard"}, {"start": "03:41:37", "end": "03:41:43", "text": "we can't see it, but when you see the"}, {"start": "03:41:40", "end": "03:41:46", "text": "fact that Mesopotamia really starts"}, {"start": "03:41:43", "end": "03:41:47", "text": "kicking off around 30"}, {"start": "03:41:46", "end": "03:41:50", "text": "Uh we can push it back a little bit, but"}, {"start": "03:41:47", "end": "03:41:53", "text": "maybe 3,300, 3,200, 3,100 BC. The"}, {"start": "03:41:50", "end": "03:41:55", "text": "Minoans kick off in 3,100 BC. The"}, {"start": "03:41:53", "end": "03:41:57", "text": "Egyptians kick off in 3,100 BC. That's"}, {"start": "03:41:55", "end": "03:41:59", "text": "not a coincidence. These people all know"}, {"start": "03:41:57", "end": "03:42:02", "text": "each other and when when these little"}, {"start": "03:41:59", "end": "03:42:03", "text": "revolutionary ideas spark, people who"}, {"start": "03:42:02", "end": "03:42:05", "text": "are trading in those areas, they go"}, {"start": "03:42:03", "end": "03:42:06", "text": "immediately back home and say, \"You're"}, {"start": "03:42:05", "end": "03:42:09", "text": "not going to believe what I just saw.\""}, {"start": "03:42:06", "end": "03:42:10", "text": "Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom."}, {"start": "03:42:09", "end": "03:42:12", "text": "Boom. Boom. Boom. And that's why they"}, {"start": "03:42:10", "end": "03:42:14", "text": "all progress next to each other, right?"}, {"start": "03:42:12", "end": "03:42:16", "text": "They all rise sort of at the same time."}, {"start": "03:42:14", "end": "03:42:17", "text": "And um"}, {"start": "03:42:16", "end": "03:42:19", "text": "but the Minoans are the ones that that"}, {"start": "03:42:17", "end": "03:42:21", "text": "get overlooked because we look at"}, {"start": "03:42:19", "end": "03:42:23", "text": "Mesopotamia and Egypt as being the"}, {"start": "03:42:21", "end": "03:42:25", "text": "origins of civilization itself, but the"}, {"start": "03:42:23", "end": "03:42:27", "text": "Minoans were right there, too. I mean, I"}, {"start": "03:42:25", "end": "03:42:29", "text": "think you could say Crete is one of the"}, {"start": "03:42:27", "end": "03:42:30", "text": "birthplaces of civilization. Because"}, {"start": "03:42:29", "end": "03:42:33", "text": ">> can I mean, it's the first written"}, {"start": "03:42:30", "end": "03:42:33", "text": "language in Europe."}, {"start": "03:42:33", "end": "03:42:37", "text": "I can start saying that more often."}, {"start": "03:42:35", "end": "03:42:38", "text": "Yeah, what? Linear A, no? Yeah. First"}, {"start": "03:42:37", "end": "03:42:39", "text": "written language."}, {"start": "03:42:38", "end": "03:42:41", "text": ">> Yeah, yeah, Linear A. And um"}, {"start": "03:42:39", "end": "03:42:43", "text": ">> And we don't know what it says."}, {"start": "03:42:41", "end": "03:42:45", "text": "Yeah, yeah, well, first written language"}, {"start": "03:42:43", "end": "03:42:47", "text": "at least in the Greek world. Like, you"}, {"start": "03:42:45", "end": "03:42:49", "text": "know, Egyptian hieroglyphs and uh"}, {"start": "03:42:47", "end": "03:42:50", "text": "and uh there's Egyptian hieroglyphs and"}, {"start": "03:42:49", "end": "03:42:52", "text": "then there's um then there's the"}, {"start": "03:42:50", "end": "03:42:53", "text": "Mesopotamian writing and there's the"}, {"start": "03:42:52", "end": "03:42:56", "text": "Phoenician writing and they think that"}, {"start": "03:42:53", "end": "03:42:58", "text": "Linear A is pulled from the Phoenician"}, {"start": "03:42:56", "end": "03:43:01", "text": "writing, but um"}, {"start": "03:42:58", "end": "03:43:02", "text": "yeah, that's that's fascinating."}, {"start": "03:43:01", "end": "03:43:04", "text": "Well, hang on a second. You have Linear"}, {"start": "03:43:02", "end": "03:43:06", "text": "A, undecipherable, then you go Linear B,"}, {"start": "03:43:04", "end": "03:43:09", "text": "which is like Proto-Greek."}, {"start": "03:43:06", "end": "03:43:11", "text": ">> Mhm. Then language then writing language"}, {"start": "03:43:09", "end": "03:43:12", "text": "goes away for 400 years and then Greek"}, {"start": "03:43:11", "end": "03:43:13", "text": "reemerges based on the Phoenician"}, {"start": "03:43:12", "end": "03:43:14", "text": "alphabet."}, {"start": "03:43:13", "end": "03:43:16", "text": ">> Oh, is that what it is? Okay, okay, I'm"}, {"start": "03:43:14", "end": "03:43:18", "text": "sorry. I'm sorry."}, {"start": "03:43:16", "end": "03:43:20", "text": ">> For some reason I was thinking that that"}, {"start": "03:43:18", "end": "03:43:22", "text": "Linear A that they thought that Linear A"}, {"start": "03:43:20", "end": "03:43:23", "text": "was pulled from I could be wrong."}, {"start": "03:43:22", "end": "03:43:25", "text": ">> even know that. It's like pictures of"}, {"start": "03:43:23", "end": "03:43:27", "text": "cats. It is, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's"}, {"start": "03:43:25", "end": "03:43:31", "text": "yeah, it's it's pictographic and and"}, {"start": "03:43:27", "end": "03:43:33", "text": "logograms, which is which is loosely"}, {"start": "03:43:31", "end": "03:43:35", "text": "probably inspired by Egyptian"}, {"start": "03:43:33", "end": "03:43:37", "text": "hieroglyphs cuz Egyptian hieroglyphs are"}, {"start": "03:43:35", "end": "03:43:39", "text": "logograms and pictographs. And I think"}, {"start": "03:43:37", "end": "03:43:41", "text": "that early Chinese is sort of the same"}, {"start": "03:43:39", "end": "03:43:44", "text": "way. It's like pictures and the pictures"}, {"start": "03:43:41", "end": "03:43:46", "text": "like fuse and become symbols, you know?"}, {"start": "03:43:44", "end": "03:43:48", "text": "But um yeah, so um"}, {"start": "03:43:46", "end": "03:43:50", "text": "they uh"}, {"start": "03:43:48", "end": "03:43:52", "text": "their their culture they arrive there I"}, {"start": "03:43:50", "end": "03:43:54", "text": "think I think that the earliest that we"}, {"start": "03:43:52", "end": "03:43:56", "text": "see their culture emerging is like 4,000"}, {"start": "03:43:54", "end": "03:43:57", "text": "BC, which is the same time"}, {"start": "03:43:56", "end": "03:44:00", "text": "Mesopotamia and Egypt. And then the"}, {"start": "03:43:57", "end": "03:44:02", "text": "actual civilization fully existing is"}, {"start": "03:44:00", "end": "03:44:04", "text": "about is 3,100 BC. There's a lot of"}, {"start": "03:44:02", "end": "03:44:05", "text": "different things that check boxes for"}, {"start": "03:44:04", "end": "03:44:07", "text": "civilization. One of the things they're"}, {"start": "03:44:05", "end": "03:44:10", "text": "starting to take off of that is writing,"}, {"start": "03:44:07", "end": "03:44:11", "text": "though. You know, it's it's like"}, {"start": "03:44:10", "end": "03:44:13", "text": "you know, that used to be that used to"}, {"start": "03:44:11", "end": "03:44:14", "text": "be one of the boxes you'd have to check"}, {"start": "03:44:13", "end": "03:44:17", "text": "to be a civilization. Now they're"}, {"start": "03:44:14", "end": "03:44:18", "text": "realizing it like that's not really"}, {"start": "03:44:17", "end": "03:44:20", "text": "if you have all the other tenets of a"}, {"start": "03:44:18", "end": "03:44:22", "text": "civilization, you don't have to be"}, {"start": "03:44:20", "end": "03:44:23", "text": "writing because you don't have to write"}, {"start": "03:44:22", "end": "03:44:25", "text": "to have a civilization. A lot of"}, {"start": "03:44:23", "end": "03:44:27", "text": "civilizations survive off of oral"}, {"start": "03:44:25", "end": "03:44:29", "text": "history. So, they're taking that one"}, {"start": "03:44:27", "end": "03:44:31", "text": "off, which I sort of agree with."}, {"start": "03:44:29", "end": "03:44:32", "text": "But, um nonetheless,"}, {"start": "03:44:31", "end": "03:44:33", "text": "the Minoans are writing."}, {"start": "03:44:32", "end": "03:44:37", "text": ">> [cough]"}, {"start": "03:44:33", "end": "03:44:40", "text": ">> So, um man, they are so much more"}, {"start": "03:44:37", "end": "03:44:42", "text": "ancient than than the rest of uh"}, {"start": "03:44:40", "end": "03:44:47", "text": "than the rest of the Greek world. So,"}, {"start": "03:44:42", "end": "03:44:50", "text": "between 3000 BC and 2000 BC,"}, {"start": "03:44:47", "end": "03:44:52", "text": "they start building these uh towns and"}, {"start": "03:44:50", "end": "03:44:54", "text": "cities across the island of Crete. They"}, {"start": "03:44:52", "end": "03:44:56", "text": "say it's it's uh it's like the island of"}, {"start": "03:44:54", "end": "03:44:58", "text": "the island of 100 cities or the island"}, {"start": "03:44:56", "end": "03:45:00", "text": "of 100 palaces. And so, you have all"}, {"start": "03:44:58", "end": "03:45:01", "text": "these um"}, {"start": "03:45:00", "end": "03:45:03", "text": "you have all these cities that are being"}, {"start": "03:45:01", "end": "03:45:06", "text": "built that are extraordinarily wealthy"}, {"start": "03:45:03", "end": "03:45:09", "text": "compared to other people that are living"}, {"start": "03:45:06", "end": "03:45:11", "text": "in you know, between 2000 and 3000 BC"}, {"start": "03:45:09", "end": "03:45:12", "text": "around the Mediterranean world. Well,"}, {"start": "03:45:11", "end": "03:45:13", "text": "explain how big these palaces are"}, {"start": "03:45:12", "end": "03:45:15", "text": "because"}, {"start": "03:45:13", "end": "03:45:17", "text": ">> Well, well, so so right now we're in the"}, {"start": "03:45:15", "end": "03:45:19", "text": "like the pre-palatial period. We start"}, {"start": "03:45:17", "end": "03:45:20", "text": "entering palatial when we get to about"}, {"start": "03:45:19", "end": "03:45:21", "text": "2000 BC."}, {"start": "03:45:20", "end": "03:45:22", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "03:45:21", "end": "03:45:26", "text": "That's when the big buildings go up."}, {"start": "03:45:22", "end": "03:45:29", "text": "Yeah, so so the Minoans, they uh"}, {"start": "03:45:26", "end": "03:45:29", "text": "they real- they realize that they're"}, {"start": "03:45:29", "end": "03:45:32", "text": ">> [snorts]"}, {"start": "03:45:29", "end": "03:45:33", "text": ">> the Mesopotamians, they they"}, {"start": "03:45:32", "end": "03:45:34", "text": "they"}, {"start": "03:45:33", "end": "03:45:37", "text": "make a lot of their uh"}, {"start": "03:45:34", "end": "03:45:39", "text": "wealth from I believe it a lot of it is"}, {"start": "03:45:37", "end": "03:45:41", "text": "gold mining uh and and valuable"}, {"start": "03:45:39", "end": "03:45:43", "text": "resources as well as it is farming. The"}, {"start": "03:45:41", "end": "03:45:45", "text": "Egyptians, it's farming straight up."}, {"start": "03:45:43", "end": "03:45:47", "text": "They don't even have gold in Egypt. All"}, {"start": "03:45:45", "end": "03:45:50", "text": "their gold comes from comes from Sudan"}, {"start": "03:45:47", "end": "03:45:52", "text": "and in Nubia. Um"}, {"start": "03:45:50", "end": "03:45:55", "text": "but massive a massive amounts of"}, {"start": "03:45:52", "end": "03:45:58", "text": "farming. And so, the uh the Minoans,"}, {"start": "03:45:55", "end": "03:46:00", "text": "they make their money in the copper"}, {"start": "03:45:58", "end": "03:46:02", "text": "trade. Copper."}, {"start": "03:46:00", "end": "03:46:04", "text": ">> Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, uh so, one of"}, {"start": "03:46:02", "end": "03:46:06", "text": "their most valuable uh"}, {"start": "03:46:04", "end": "03:46:08", "text": "one of the places that was able to to"}, {"start": "03:46:06", "end": "03:46:10", "text": "mine the most copper was their city of"}, {"start": "03:46:08", "end": "03:46:12", "text": "Akrotiri. Akrotiri, it's uh modern-day"}, {"start": "03:46:10", "end": "03:46:14", "text": "Santorini, just north of the island of"}, {"start": "03:46:12", "end": "03:46:15", "text": "Crete. They're able to mine a lot of"}, {"start": "03:46:14", "end": "03:46:17", "text": "copper there and on the various islands"}, {"start": "03:46:15", "end": "03:46:19", "text": "and the island of Crete itself does have"}, {"start": "03:46:17", "end": "03:46:21", "text": "some copper. It does have silver as"}, {"start": "03:46:19", "end": "03:46:23", "text": "well. So, it's metals. Once the Once the"}, {"start": "03:46:21", "end": "03:46:24", "text": "metal starts kicking off, that's why"}, {"start": "03:46:23", "end": "03:46:27", "text": "like"}, {"start": "03:46:24", "end": "03:46:28", "text": "Egypt and Mesopotamia kind of They all"}, {"start": "03:46:27", "end": "03:46:31", "text": "emerge at the same time, but these two"}, {"start": "03:46:28", "end": "03:46:32", "text": "guys grow way faster. But, once these"}, {"start": "03:46:31", "end": "03:46:35", "text": "guys Once everyone else starts realizing"}, {"start": "03:46:32", "end": "03:46:39", "text": "that they want copper, boom, the Minoan"}, {"start": "03:46:35", "end": "03:46:42", "text": "civilization explodes. And so, uh about"}, {"start": "03:46:39", "end": "03:46:44", "text": "2100 BC to"}, {"start": "03:46:42", "end": "03:46:46", "text": "let's say 1900 BC, that's kind of when"}, {"start": "03:46:44", "end": "03:46:48", "text": "this massive"}, {"start": "03:46:46", "end": "03:46:49", "text": "It probably goes back further than that"}, {"start": "03:46:48", "end": "03:46:52", "text": "because we know that the Egyptians are"}, {"start": "03:46:49", "end": "03:46:54", "text": "buying copper from them like in the"}, {"start": "03:46:52", "end": "03:46:57", "text": "fourth dynasty. There's all that copper"}, {"start": "03:46:54", "end": "03:47:00", "text": "that they've got. So much of that comes"}, {"start": "03:46:57", "end": "03:47:02", "text": "from the uh comes from the Aegean."}, {"start": "03:47:00", "end": "03:47:04", "text": "But, the Minoans are slowly building up"}, {"start": "03:47:02", "end": "03:47:08", "text": "that wealth to about the point that by"}, {"start": "03:47:04", "end": "03:47:11", "text": "1700 BC, the whole island is covered in"}, {"start": "03:47:08", "end": "03:47:13", "text": "like 99 of these I think it's like 99 to"}, {"start": "03:47:11", "end": "03:47:15", "text": "100 of these massive palaces."}, {"start": "03:47:13", "end": "03:47:16", "text": ">> That many, wow. I think that's right."}, {"start": "03:47:15", "end": "03:47:18", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. Now, there's there's about a"}, {"start": "03:47:16", "end": "03:47:21", "text": "dozen of them that are absolutely"}, {"start": "03:47:18", "end": "03:47:24", "text": "enormous, but in all, it's like it's"}, {"start": "03:47:21", "end": "03:47:26", "text": "like 100 uh palisade towns. You have"}, {"start": "03:47:24", "end": "03:47:28", "text": "this big town and you have this massive"}, {"start": "03:47:26", "end": "03:47:30", "text": "public architecture center in the middle"}, {"start": "03:47:28", "end": "03:47:32", "text": "of it. But, there's 12 of them, I"}, {"start": "03:47:30", "end": "03:47:34", "text": "believe, that are"}, {"start": "03:47:32", "end": "03:47:37", "text": "just absolutely enormous. I wish I had a"}, {"start": "03:47:34", "end": "03:47:39", "text": "measurement of the acreage. Um that's"}, {"start": "03:47:37", "end": "03:47:42", "text": "something I should know. But, they were"}, {"start": "03:47:39", "end": "03:47:44", "text": "so enormous and so strange to visitors"}, {"start": "03:47:42", "end": "03:47:46", "text": "that this is uh sort of where the"}, {"start": "03:47:44", "end": "03:47:49", "text": "labyrinth myth myth comes from. There"}, {"start": "03:47:46", "end": "03:47:51", "text": "There was no actual that we have found,"}, {"start": "03:47:49", "end": "03:47:53", "text": "no labyrinth of of the Minotaur. And the"}, {"start": "03:47:51", "end": "03:47:56", "text": "Minotaur is their cultural creature."}, {"start": "03:47:53", "end": "03:47:57", "text": "It's this man bull. So, kind of like the"}, {"start": "03:47:56", "end": "03:48:01", "text": "Olmecs, you know, you got this man"}, {"start": "03:47:57", "end": "03:48:02", "text": "jaguar. So, you had a wearable. And uh"}, {"start": "03:48:01", "end": "03:48:04", "text": "so, the labyrinth [clears throat] of the"}, {"start": "03:48:02", "end": "03:48:05", "text": "Minotaur, it's possible that it's"}, {"start": "03:48:04", "end": "03:48:07", "text": "actually just rep uh"}, {"start": "03:48:05", "end": "03:48:09", "text": "referencing the palaces because the"}, {"start": "03:48:07", "end": "03:48:11", "text": "palaces are these labyrinths of like"}, {"start": "03:48:09", "end": "03:48:14", "text": "four-floor palaces with all these"}, {"start": "03:48:11", "end": "03:48:16", "text": "winding uh hallways. You know, in"}, {"start": "03:48:14", "end": "03:48:17", "text": "ancient times, people don't think about"}, {"start": "03:48:16", "end": "03:48:19", "text": "this,"}, {"start": "03:48:17", "end": "03:48:21", "text": "there were no wide-open rooms in ancient"}, {"start": "03:48:19", "end": "03:48:24", "text": "times because they"}, {"start": "03:48:21", "end": "03:48:27", "text": "the technology to create a roof that"}, {"start": "03:48:24", "end": "03:48:29", "text": "would still hold up to be large um"}, {"start": "03:48:27", "end": "03:48:31", "text": "it just it just hadn't it hadn't been"}, {"start": "03:48:29", "end": "03:48:32", "text": "invented yet. They hadn't figured out"}, {"start": "03:48:31", "end": "03:48:34", "text": "how to do that with the architecture."}, {"start": "03:48:32", "end": "03:48:37", "text": "So, you would have small rooms and"}, {"start": "03:48:34", "end": "03:48:40", "text": "winding hallways. And so, these palaces"}, {"start": "03:48:37", "end": "03:48:42", "text": "are labyrinths. With like 1,300 rooms."}, {"start": "03:48:40", "end": "03:48:44", "text": "Yeah, exactly. With like 13 13 1,400"}, {"start": "03:48:42", "end": "03:48:46", "text": "rooms. Yeah, it's something it's"}, {"start": "03:48:44", "end": "03:48:47", "text": "something insane, especially at Knossos."}, {"start": "03:48:46", "end": "03:48:50", "text": ">> And we call them palaces, but it's"}, {"start": "03:48:47", "end": "03:48:53", "text": "possible that everybody lived there, no?"}, {"start": "03:48:50", "end": "03:48:55", "text": "Like shopping malls? Yeah, yeah, that"}, {"start": "03:48:53", "end": "03:48:56", "text": "that would be more so what I would say."}, {"start": "03:48:55", "end": "03:48:59", "text": "You have these um"}, {"start": "03:48:56", "end": "03:49:01", "text": "you have these uh"}, {"start": "03:48:59", "end": "03:49:03", "text": "you have these villas that are built"}, {"start": "03:49:01", "end": "03:49:05", "text": "right up on the walls on the outside."}, {"start": "03:49:03", "end": "03:49:06", "text": "And from those villas that surround the"}, {"start": "03:49:05", "end": "03:49:08", "text": "palaces,"}, {"start": "03:49:06", "end": "03:49:11", "text": "it starts out at this really high"}, {"start": "03:49:08", "end": "03:49:13", "text": "high-level super expensive homes, and it"}, {"start": "03:49:11", "end": "03:49:14", "text": "gradually descends out as you get"}, {"start": "03:49:13", "end": "03:49:16", "text": "further away. You know, you got"}, {"start": "03:49:14", "end": "03:49:17", "text": "thousands of people living here. And"}, {"start": "03:49:16", "end": "03:49:18", "text": "then you've got these other nicer areas"}, {"start": "03:49:17", "end": "03:49:21", "text": "that are way out in the countryside,"}, {"start": "03:49:18", "end": "03:49:22", "text": "people that are, you know, have like"}, {"start": "03:49:21", "end": "03:49:24", "text": "wine um"}, {"start": "03:49:22", "end": "03:49:26", "text": "vineyards and and farms and and"}, {"start": "03:49:24", "end": "03:49:28", "text": "everything. And actually, keep keep in"}, {"start": "03:49:26", "end": "03:49:30", "text": "mind, even the lower-class people, their"}, {"start": "03:49:28", "end": "03:49:33", "text": "homes are much larger and much more"}, {"start": "03:49:30", "end": "03:49:35", "text": "well-built than anybody's homes in"}, {"start": "03:49:33", "end": "03:49:37", "text": "Egypt. Like in Egypt, if you're not born"}, {"start": "03:49:35", "end": "03:49:40", "text": "royal, even a priest"}, {"start": "03:49:37", "end": "03:49:42", "text": "granted, some of the some of the wealthy"}, {"start": "03:49:40", "end": "03:49:44", "text": "some of the high-ranking priests were"}, {"start": "03:49:42", "end": "03:49:47", "text": "like mob bosses. But uh"}, {"start": "03:49:44", "end": "03:49:49", "text": "in general, by principle, in Egypt, if"}, {"start": "03:49:47", "end": "03:49:52", "text": "you weren't born royal, you lived in a"}, {"start": "03:49:49", "end": "03:49:55", "text": "dump. You lived in a shack. So, even the"}, {"start": "03:49:52", "end": "03:49:57", "text": "normal people in the Minoan world are"}, {"start": "03:49:55", "end": "03:49:59", "text": "far more wealthy than the average"}, {"start": "03:49:57", "end": "03:50:02", "text": "Egyptian. There is not any sort of"}, {"start": "03:49:59", "end": "03:50:05", "text": "normal circumstance where the average"}, {"start": "03:50:02", "end": "03:50:07", "text": "Minoan person would ever even dream they"}, {"start": "03:50:05", "end": "03:50:09", "text": "would laugh at the idea of trading"}, {"start": "03:50:07", "end": "03:50:10", "text": "places with an Egyptian. And when you"}, {"start": "03:50:09", "end": "03:50:11", "text": "know that, it kind of changes your"}, {"start": "03:50:10", "end": "03:50:12", "text": "perspective of the ancient world. Like,"}, {"start": "03:50:11", "end": "03:50:14", "text": "yeah, these temples were amazing, the"}, {"start": "03:50:12", "end": "03:50:15", "text": "pyramids are amazing, that that world is"}, {"start": "03:50:14", "end": "03:50:17", "text": "amazing, but"}, {"start": "03:50:15", "end": "03:50:19", "text": "you know, the average life of a Minoan"}, {"start": "03:50:17", "end": "03:50:22", "text": "of a Minoan was considerably better than"}, {"start": "03:50:19", "end": "03:50:23", "text": "anybody else in the Mediterranean world."}, {"start": "03:50:22", "end": "03:50:25", "text": "Considerably better. They had flushing"}, {"start": "03:50:23", "end": "03:50:27", "text": "toilets and water that's flowing through"}, {"start": "03:50:25", "end": "03:50:28", "text": "their city, and they've got fountains in"}, {"start": "03:50:27", "end": "03:50:30", "text": "the center of the city, which was"}, {"start": "03:50:28", "end": "03:50:31", "text": "something that, you know, people always"}, {"start": "03:50:30", "end": "03:50:32", "text": "look at like the Roman aqueducts"}, {"start": "03:50:31", "end": "03:50:34", "text": "bringing fresh water in the cities"}, {"start": "03:50:32", "end": "03:50:36", "text": "already existed. The The Minoans already"}, {"start": "03:50:34", "end": "03:50:37", "text": "had this, but it was all underground."}, {"start": "03:50:36", "end": "03:50:39", "text": ">> Underground plumbing. And yeah, they had"}, {"start": "03:50:37", "end": "03:50:41", "text": "they had underground plumbing."}, {"start": "03:50:39", "end": "03:50:43", "text": ">> Underground plumbing, ceramic pipes."}, {"start": "03:50:41", "end": "03:50:45", "text": "They had marble toilets on the fourth"}, {"start": "03:50:43", "end": "03:50:47", "text": "floor of palaces with you know, that"}, {"start": "03:50:45", "end": "03:50:50", "text": "could flush. They could on on the island"}, {"start": "03:50:47", "end": "03:50:51", "text": "of Akrotiri specifically,"}, {"start": "03:50:50", "end": "03:50:52", "text": "your [snorts] bath, you could choose"}, {"start": "03:50:51", "end": "03:50:55", "text": "between cold and hot water."}, {"start": "03:50:52", "end": "03:50:57", "text": ">> That's amazing. Yeah, yeah. So, it just"}, {"start": "03:50:55", "end": "03:50:59", "text": "just mind So, they're What are they"}, {"start": "03:50:57", "end": "03:51:01", "text": "drawing from two different like a hot"}, {"start": "03:50:59", "end": "03:51:03", "text": "spring and a So, one is coming from a"}, {"start": "03:51:01", "end": "03:51:04", "text": "spring that's next to the volcano, and"}, {"start": "03:51:03", "end": "03:51:05", "text": "the other one is coming from a cold"}, {"start": "03:51:04", "end": "03:51:07", "text": "spring. That's amazing."}, {"start": "03:51:05", "end": "03:51:10", "text": ">> And uh and you could you could cut off"}, {"start": "03:51:07", "end": "03:51:11", "text": "the where the water is coming from to to"}, {"start": "03:51:10", "end": "03:51:13", "text": "fill up your bath. And you know, the"}, {"start": "03:51:11", "end": "03:51:15", "text": "baths are are made out of like alabaster"}, {"start": "03:51:13", "end": "03:51:17", "text": "crystal, some of them are made out of"}, {"start": "03:51:15", "end": "03:51:21", "text": "polished marble. It's just like crazy."}, {"start": "03:51:17", "end": "03:51:23", "text": "And and um it it's just unbelievably"}, {"start": "03:51:21", "end": "03:51:27", "text": "wealthy society. And as much as we've"}, {"start": "03:51:23", "end": "03:51:29", "text": "studied the the societal makeup, like uh"}, {"start": "03:51:27", "end": "03:51:32", "text": "how the the structure of the culture,"}, {"start": "03:51:29", "end": "03:51:34", "text": "there's no sign of kings, there's no"}, {"start": "03:51:32", "end": "03:51:37", "text": "sign of lords, there's"}, {"start": "03:51:34", "end": "03:51:39", "text": "the the these aren't kingdoms, they're"}, {"start": "03:51:37", "end": "03:51:41", "text": "um the the way I've seen them described"}, {"start": "03:51:39", "end": "03:51:45", "text": "is is is consumer societies. So, it was"}, {"start": "03:51:41", "end": "03:51:47", "text": "a capitalistic enterprise society. So,"}, {"start": "03:51:45", "end": "03:51:49", "text": "you know, it's a dog-eat-dog world based"}, {"start": "03:51:47", "end": "03:51:50", "text": "on what you provide and having"}, {"start": "03:51:49", "end": "03:51:52", "text": "connections inside the business realm."}, {"start": "03:51:50", "end": "03:51:54", "text": "So,"}, {"start": "03:51:52", "end": "03:51:56", "text": "what makes sense to me is that those"}, {"start": "03:51:54", "end": "03:51:58", "text": "palaces are are actually malls. That's"}, {"start": "03:51:56", "end": "03:51:59", "text": "not a palace, it's public architecture."}, {"start": "03:51:58", "end": "03:52:00", "text": "And in the center you'd have a big"}, {"start": "03:51:59", "end": "03:52:02", "text": "courtyard, so there'd be festivals that"}, {"start": "03:52:00", "end": "03:52:03", "text": "were played there. All the depictions"}, {"start": "03:52:02", "end": "03:52:05", "text": "you see of the guys jumping over the"}, {"start": "03:52:03", "end": "03:52:07", "text": "bulls, that all happened it must have"}, {"start": "03:52:05", "end": "03:52:09", "text": "happened in that central courtyard. So"}, {"start": "03:52:07", "end": "03:52:10", "text": "you'd have parades there, and in the"}, {"start": "03:52:09", "end": "03:52:13", "text": "cubbies on the sides you'd have people"}, {"start": "03:52:10", "end": "03:52:14", "text": "selling things, and as you went up maybe"}, {"start": "03:52:13", "end": "03:52:16", "text": "you know, who knows, maybe the copper"}, {"start": "03:52:14", "end": "03:52:17", "text": "salesman are up at the top floor. And"}, {"start": "03:52:16", "end": "03:52:19", "text": "that's where the aristocrats are really"}, {"start": "03:52:17", "end": "03:52:21", "text": "trading, and down on the bottom you've"}, {"start": "03:52:19", "end": "03:52:23", "text": "got like you know, hey, do you want to"}, {"start": "03:52:21", "end": "03:52:24", "text": "buy you want to buy these"}, {"start": "03:52:23", "end": "03:52:27", "text": "you know, these olives, you want to buy"}, {"start": "03:52:24", "end": "03:52:28", "text": "these seeds, this grain, this this cheap"}, {"start": "03:52:27", "end": "03:52:30", "text": "wine, you know? And then you probably"}, {"start": "03:52:28", "end": "03:52:31", "text": "have you probably have like"}, {"start": "03:52:30", "end": "03:52:32", "text": "on the third you know, on the top I'm"}, {"start": "03:52:31", "end": "03:52:34", "text": "guessing it's going to be like copper"}, {"start": "03:52:32", "end": "03:52:36", "text": "trade. You're going to have this you"}, {"start": "03:52:34", "end": "03:52:37", "text": "know, thousandaire that's going to come"}, {"start": "03:52:36", "end": "03:52:38", "text": "in like a millionaire or billionaire"}, {"start": "03:52:37", "end": "03:52:40", "text": "back then, but you know, he's going to"}, {"start": "03:52:38", "end": "03:52:42", "text": "come in and he he's got to go to the top"}, {"start": "03:52:40", "end": "03:52:44", "text": "floor where all the copper salesman are,"}, {"start": "03:52:42", "end": "03:52:46", "text": "the super rich people with the finest"}, {"start": "03:52:44", "end": "03:52:48", "text": "wine being brought to these businessmen."}, {"start": "03:52:46", "end": "03:52:50", "text": "And just below that it's probably like"}, {"start": "03:52:48", "end": "03:52:53", "text": "oh, you know, well, while I'm visiting"}, {"start": "03:52:50", "end": "03:52:54", "text": "Knossos I want to buy this really nice I"}, {"start": "03:52:53", "end": "03:52:55", "text": "want to buy this really nice cup that I"}, {"start": "03:52:54", "end": "03:52:57", "text": "can drink with, you know? So you go up"}, {"start": "03:52:55", "end": "03:52:59", "text": "to the third floor where all the faience"}, {"start": "03:52:57", "end": "03:53:00", "text": "is being sold and"}, {"start": "03:52:59", "end": "03:53:02", "text": "you know"}, {"start": "03:53:00", "end": "03:53:04", "text": "that's probably what I think it was is a"}, {"start": "03:53:02", "end": "03:53:06", "text": "big mall. I think you're right. Ryan's"}, {"start": "03:53:04", "end": "03:53:07", "text": "showing the Heraklion right now. You"}, {"start": "03:53:06", "end": "03:53:08", "text": "don't see architecture like this for a"}, {"start": "03:53:07", "end": "03:53:10", "text": "thousand years."}, {"start": "03:53:08", "end": "03:53:12", "text": "When this falls, yeah, you don't see"}, {"start": "03:53:10", "end": "03:53:15", "text": "anything like that. Actually, I should"}, {"start": "03:53:12", "end": "03:53:16", "text": "say on a on a on a"}, {"start": "03:53:15", "end": "03:53:18", "text": "scale that size"}, {"start": "03:53:16", "end": "03:53:20", "text": "no classical Greeks are ever building"}, {"start": "03:53:18", "end": "03:53:21", "text": "anything that big."}, {"start": "03:53:20", "end": "03:53:22", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "03:53:21", "end": "03:53:24", "text": "all of their buildings are like single"}, {"start": "03:53:22", "end": "03:53:26", "text": "buildings that are clustered together."}, {"start": "03:53:24", "end": "03:53:28", "text": "That is one massive building. The only"}, {"start": "03:53:26", "end": "03:53:31", "text": "time you'll ever see anything like that"}, {"start": "03:53:28", "end": "03:53:34", "text": "is"}, {"start": "03:53:31", "end": "03:53:36", "text": "I would say 2,000 years later, height of"}, {"start": "03:53:34", "end": "03:53:37", "text": "the Roman Empire. That's the only like"}, {"start": "03:53:36", "end": "03:53:39", "text": "like the forum and all the temples that"}, {"start": "03:53:37", "end": "03:53:41", "text": "are not clustered together, but they're"}, {"start": "03:53:39", "end": "03:53:43", "text": "like built on top of each other. That's"}, {"start": "03:53:41", "end": "03:53:45", "text": "the only time you ever see anything like"}, {"start": "03:53:43", "end": "03:53:46", "text": "this again. Especially with the running"}, {"start": "03:53:45", "end": "03:53:48", "text": "water, with the flushing toilets, with"}, {"start": "03:53:46", "end": "03:53:50", "text": "the aqueduct systems, with the public"}, {"start": "03:53:48", "end": "03:53:52", "text": "bathrooms, with the public fountains."}, {"start": "03:53:50", "end": "03:53:55", "text": "All of that is height of the Roman"}, {"start": "03:53:52", "end": "03:53:57", "text": "Empire. You know, so when people say you"}, {"start": "03:53:55", "end": "03:54:00", "text": "know, a lot of people will will conflate"}, {"start": "03:53:57", "end": "03:54:02", "text": "Atlantis. Like you you you'll ask"}, {"start": "03:54:00", "end": "03:54:03", "text": "people, \"Okay, well, I mean"}, {"start": "03:54:02", "end": "03:54:04", "text": "you don't actually think Atlantis was"}, {"start": "03:54:03", "end": "03:54:06", "text": "like"}, {"start": "03:54:04", "end": "03:54:07", "text": "like spaceships and lasers and aliens"}, {"start": "03:54:06", "end": "03:54:08", "text": "and stuff. Like what do you think it"}, {"start": "03:54:07", "end": "03:54:10", "text": "was?\" People will go, \"Well, I'm not"}, {"start": "03:54:08", "end": "03:54:12", "text": "saying I think Atlantis was on par with"}, {"start": "03:54:10", "end": "03:54:13", "text": "what we have today, but maybe more like"}, {"start": "03:54:12", "end": "03:54:15", "text": "the Roman Empire.\""}, {"start": "03:54:13", "end": "03:54:17", "text": "There you go. You know, the the Minoans"}, {"start": "03:54:15", "end": "03:54:19", "text": "are right there are right there with"}, {"start": "03:54:17", "end": "03:54:21", "text": "with the Romans. Maybe not as power, but"}, {"start": "03:54:19", "end": "03:54:23", "text": "sophistication and technology for sure."}, {"start": "03:54:21", "end": "03:54:25", "text": ">> Yeah, it's it's really right there."}, {"start": "03:54:23", "end": "03:54:26", "text": "That's a great segue. So, what happened"}, {"start": "03:54:25", "end": "03:54:29", "text": "to the Minoans?"}, {"start": "03:54:26", "end": "03:54:31", "text": "Yeah, uh this is a huge mystery, man. Um"}, {"start": "03:54:29", "end": "03:54:33", "text": "Cuz suddenly they're gone, right? Yeah,"}, {"start": "03:54:31", "end": "03:54:35", "text": "yeah, greatest archaeological um mystery"}, {"start": "03:54:33", "end": "03:54:37", "text": "of all time, really. Like most famous"}, {"start": "03:54:35", "end": "03:54:39", "text": "one. Um"}, {"start": "03:54:37", "end": "03:54:41", "text": "So, the the"}, {"start": "03:54:39", "end": "03:54:43", "text": "one of the central core aspects to the"}, {"start": "03:54:41", "end": "03:54:46", "text": "Minoan world, which we touched on a"}, {"start": "03:54:43", "end": "03:54:47", "text": "little bit earlier, is the copper trade."}, {"start": "03:54:46", "end": "03:54:50", "text": "Well, that copper trade comes out from"}, {"start": "03:54:47", "end": "03:54:55", "text": "this little Minoan colony of Akrotiri."}, {"start": "03:54:50", "end": "03:54:57", "text": "Um Akrotiri was settled around"}, {"start": "03:54:55", "end": "03:55:00", "text": "4,000 to 3,000 BC. It's it's just like"}, {"start": "03:54:57", "end": "03:55:02", "text": "right after uh Minoan culture really"}, {"start": "03:55:00", "end": "03:55:05", "text": "appears on Crete. You got some people"}, {"start": "03:55:02", "end": "03:55:06", "text": "who move up there and it's and when they"}, {"start": "03:55:05", "end": "03:55:08", "text": "start mining their resources that are"}, {"start": "03:55:06", "end": "03:55:10", "text": "found on the island, it becomes"}, {"start": "03:55:08", "end": "03:55:13", "text": "important. So, they kind of"}, {"start": "03:55:10", "end": "03:55:15", "text": "get absorbed by Minoan society and and"}, {"start": "03:55:13", "end": "03:55:17", "text": "Akrotiri or Santorini becomes a part of"}, {"start": "03:55:15", "end": "03:55:18", "text": "the Minoan world."}, {"start": "03:55:17", "end": "03:55:19", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "03:55:18", "end": "03:55:22", "text": "And so, copper trade is coming out of"}, {"start": "03:55:19", "end": "03:55:26", "text": "there. And so, Akrotiri controlled the"}, {"start": "03:55:22", "end": "03:55:27", "text": "copper trade um from the Minoans going"}, {"start": "03:55:26", "end": "03:55:29", "text": "out to the rest of the Mediterranean"}, {"start": "03:55:27", "end": "03:55:31", "text": "world. It also controlled the copper"}, {"start": "03:55:29", "end": "03:55:33", "text": "trade going from the Minoans to the"}, {"start": "03:55:31", "end": "03:55:35", "text": "Greek mainland."}, {"start": "03:55:33", "end": "03:55:37", "text": "So, uh think about Mycenae out in"}, {"start": "03:55:35", "end": "03:55:39", "text": "mainland Greece, all the way up to"}, {"start": "03:55:37", "end": "03:55:41", "text": "Macedonia, all the way around the"}, {"start": "03:55:39", "end": "03:55:43", "text": "Turkish coast. They all want to come"}, {"start": "03:55:41", "end": "03:55:44", "text": "down to Crete. All the travel that comes"}, {"start": "03:55:43", "end": "03:55:46", "text": "down to Crete, whether it's for copper"}, {"start": "03:55:44", "end": "03:55:48", "text": "trade or it's whether it's for anything,"}, {"start": "03:55:46", "end": "03:55:49", "text": "would go through Akrotiri. So, this is a"}, {"start": "03:55:48", "end": "03:55:53", "text": "wealthy, important place."}, {"start": "03:55:49", "end": "03:55:54", "text": ">> Very wealthy, very important. Probably"}, {"start": "03:55:53", "end": "03:55:57", "text": "it's possible"}, {"start": "03:55:54", "end": "03:56:00", "text": "Yeah, I mean it's not possible. It's"}, {"start": "03:55:57", "end": "03:56:04", "text": "It's probably a fact that in 1600 BC,"}, {"start": "03:56:00", "end": "03:56:05", "text": "1650 BC, Akrotiri was the wealthiest,"}, {"start": "03:56:04", "end": "03:56:07", "text": "greatest city on the planet at that"}, {"start": "03:56:05", "end": "03:56:09", "text": "time. Wow. And uh"}, {"start": "03:56:07", "end": "03:56:10", "text": ">> Wow. Yeah. You got that right."}, {"start": "03:56:09", "end": "03:56:13", "text": ">> At that very moment."}, {"start": "03:56:10", "end": "03:56:14", "text": ">> Yep. And and it makes sense with why the"}, {"start": "03:56:13", "end": "03:56:16", "text": "um"}, {"start": "03:56:14", "end": "03:56:18", "text": "So, think about the story of Atlantis"}, {"start": "03:56:16", "end": "03:56:19", "text": "that's told"}, {"start": "03:56:18", "end": "03:56:20", "text": "One of the things we that we're told"}, {"start": "03:56:19", "end": "03:56:22", "text": "about Atlantis is that they were very,"}, {"start": "03:56:20", "end": "03:56:24", "text": "very wealthy"}, {"start": "03:56:22", "end": "03:56:26", "text": "and that they were greedy and that their"}, {"start": "03:56:24", "end": "03:56:28", "text": "civilization was destroyed bec- as a"}, {"start": "03:56:26", "end": "03:56:30", "text": "result of that. Well, Minoan society"}, {"start": "03:56:28", "end": "03:56:32", "text": "itself is a consumer society based on"}, {"start": "03:56:30", "end": "03:56:34", "text": "money from what we can tell. The whole"}, {"start": "03:56:32", "end": "03:56:36", "text": "society is based on money, kind of like,"}, {"start": "03:56:34", "end": "03:56:38", "text": "you know, the US like in some ways. It's"}, {"start": "03:56:36", "end": "03:56:39", "text": "a consumer society, filthy rich."}, {"start": "03:56:38", "end": "03:56:43", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "03:56:39", "end": "03:56:43", "text": "Well, that idea"}, {"start": "03:56:43", "end": "03:56:46", "text": "of Atlantis"}, {"start": "03:56:47", "end": "03:56:50", "text": "I think that that's Well, we should get"}, {"start": "03:56:48", "end": "03:56:52", "text": "into that in just a moment, but I'm I'm"}, {"start": "03:56:50", "end": "03:56:54", "text": "telling you what happened to to to the"}, {"start": "03:56:52", "end": "03:56:56", "text": "Minoans."}, {"start": "03:56:54", "end": "03:56:59", "text": "So, Akrotiri in 1650 BC is the is the"}, {"start": "03:56:56", "end": "03:57:01", "text": "wealthiest city"}, {"start": "03:56:59", "end": "03:57:03", "text": "I should I shouldn't say wealthy city,"}, {"start": "03:57:01", "end": "03:57:04", "text": "the best place to live on the entire"}, {"start": "03:57:03", "end": "03:57:07", "text": "planet."}, {"start": "03:57:04", "end": "03:57:08", "text": "Per individual wealth, wealthiest city"}, {"start": "03:57:07", "end": "03:57:10", "text": "on the planet. Now, you know, you"}, {"start": "03:57:08", "end": "03:57:12", "text": "compare that to like Babylon, it's not"}, {"start": "03:57:10", "end": "03:57:14", "text": "going to Or or you compare it to to"}, {"start": "03:57:12", "end": "03:57:15", "text": "Memphis in Egypt. Memphis has more"}, {"start": "03:57:14", "end": "03:57:16", "text": "wealth, but the quality of life is so"}, {"start": "03:57:15", "end": "03:57:18", "text": "much lower, right?"}, {"start": "03:57:16", "end": "03:57:21", "text": ">> in Akrotiri is living a great That's"}, {"start": "03:57:18", "end": "03:57:25", "text": "exactly That's exactly right. And um and"}, {"start": "03:57:21", "end": "03:57:27", "text": "so uh And so, you have all these other"}, {"start": "03:57:25", "end": "03:57:29", "text": "Greek um"}, {"start": "03:57:27", "end": "03:57:30", "text": "civilizations in the mainland looking at"}, {"start": "03:57:29", "end": "03:57:32", "text": "the Minoans like, \"Look at these wealthy"}, {"start": "03:57:30", "end": "03:57:35", "text": "guys.\" Especially Mycenae. Mycenae is"}, {"start": "03:57:32", "end": "03:57:37", "text": "chomping at the bit to get a piece of"}, {"start": "03:57:35", "end": "03:57:40", "text": "that a piece of that wealth. And Mycenae"}, {"start": "03:57:37", "end": "03:57:42", "text": "is uh Mycenae is the civilization that's"}, {"start": "03:57:40", "end": "03:57:45", "text": "depicted in the movie Troy, the king"}, {"start": "03:57:42", "end": "03:57:46", "text": "Agamemnon. So, the whole rise and fall"}, {"start": "03:57:45", "end": "03:57:49", "text": "of the Minoan world actually happens"}, {"start": "03:57:46", "end": "03:57:51", "text": "long before the the story of Troy. Um"}, {"start": "03:57:49", "end": "03:57:52", "text": "Well, we could detour for like a"}, {"start": "03:57:51", "end": "03:57:53", "text": "[clears throat] second there if you want"}, {"start": "03:57:52", "end": "03:57:55", "text": "to talk about the Trojan War because"}, {"start": "03:57:53", "end": "03:57:58", "text": "it's one of my favorite things ever."}, {"start": "03:57:55", "end": "03:57:59", "text": "Yeah, yeah. Well, it happens after this"}, {"start": "03:57:58", "end": "03:58:01", "text": "Yeah, let's go to that after this cuz"}, {"start": "03:57:59", "end": "03:58:03", "text": "cuz it it'll I think it'll make more"}, {"start": "03:58:01", "end": "03:58:05", "text": "sense chronologically. Okay. Cuz I have"}, {"start": "03:58:03", "end": "03:58:06", "text": "a I have a question. Yeah, absolutely."}, {"start": "03:58:05", "end": "03:58:09", "text": "So, um"}, {"start": "03:58:06", "end": "03:58:11", "text": "So, what's crazy is at the height of"}, {"start": "03:58:09", "end": "03:58:13", "text": "Minoan power"}, {"start": "03:58:11", "end": "03:58:15", "text": "this island of this island of 100"}, {"start": "03:58:13", "end": "03:58:19", "text": "palaces or 100 cities"}, {"start": "03:58:15", "end": "03:58:21", "text": "um far more wealthy and and well-to-do"}, {"start": "03:58:19", "end": "03:58:23", "text": "per person, you know, on a one-to-one"}, {"start": "03:58:21", "end": "03:58:25", "text": "scale than the than the rest of the"}, {"start": "03:58:23", "end": "03:58:28", "text": "ancient world controlling the copper"}, {"start": "03:58:25", "end": "03:58:30", "text": "trade, which is the most widely used,"}, {"start": "03:58:28", "end": "03:58:31", "text": "you know, metal in in the ancient world."}, {"start": "03:58:30", "end": "03:58:36", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "03:58:31", "end": "03:58:38", "text": "Around the year 1650 BC or 16 I should"}, {"start": "03:58:36", "end": "03:58:41", "text": "say around the year 1600 BC, maybe maybe"}, {"start": "03:58:38", "end": "03:58:43", "text": "1550 BC, they're still kind of playing"}, {"start": "03:58:41", "end": "03:58:44", "text": "with the dates there."}, {"start": "03:58:43", "end": "03:58:46", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "03:58:44", "end": "03:58:49", "text": "Around then, Ak- Akrotiri starts having"}, {"start": "03:58:46", "end": "03:58:50", "text": "these earthquakes that are going off and"}, {"start": "03:58:49", "end": "03:58:52", "text": "they're rattling the city and they're"}, {"start": "03:58:50", "end": "03:58:55", "text": "rattling the city and it starts"}, {"start": "03:58:52", "end": "03:58:56", "text": "happening on a regular basis. And we"}, {"start": "03:58:55", "end": "03:58:58", "text": "know that it knocked down large parts of"}, {"start": "03:58:56", "end": "03:58:59", "text": "the large parts of the buildings there."}, {"start": "03:58:58", "end": "03:59:00", "text": "They built the they rebuilt the"}, {"start": "03:58:59", "end": "03:59:01", "text": "buildings and put them back together. We"}, {"start": "03:59:00", "end": "03:59:03", "text": "can see that in some of the buildings"}, {"start": "03:59:01", "end": "03:59:07", "text": "that still survive today. Yep. And it's"}, {"start": "03:59:03", "end": "03:59:08", "text": "not known how long"}, {"start": "03:59:07", "end": "03:59:10", "text": "this period of time is between the"}, {"start": "03:59:08", "end": "03:59:11", "text": "earthquakes beginning and people"}, {"start": "03:59:10", "end": "03:59:13", "text": "realizing that these earthquakes aren't"}, {"start": "03:59:11", "end": "03:59:14", "text": "going to stop and they have to leave the"}, {"start": "03:59:13", "end": "03:59:15", "text": "city."}, {"start": "03:59:14", "end": "03:59:17", "text": "This What I'm going to get about to get"}, {"start": "03:59:15", "end": "03:59:18", "text": "to is one of the most amazing things"}, {"start": "03:59:17", "end": "03:59:20", "text": "about about these people and how"}, {"start": "03:59:18", "end": "03:59:24", "text": "sophisticated and how smart and capable"}, {"start": "03:59:20", "end": "03:59:26", "text": "they were. Go ahead. Um"}, {"start": "03:59:24", "end": "03:59:28", "text": "They all they they"}, {"start": "03:59:26", "end": "03:59:31", "text": "ultimately decide"}, {"start": "03:59:28", "end": "03:59:33", "text": "that that this this island that they're"}, {"start": "03:59:31", "end": "03:59:34", "text": "living on on Santorini Akrotiri"}, {"start": "03:59:33", "end": "03:59:35", "text": "they can't live here anymore. The"}, {"start": "03:59:34", "end": "03:59:38", "text": "buildings are shaking, they're falling"}, {"start": "03:59:35", "end": "03:59:40", "text": "apart. It It must have been so bad"}, {"start": "03:59:38", "end": "03:59:43", "text": "because every"}, {"start": "03:59:40", "end": "03:59:45", "text": "single person not an elderly person, not"}, {"start": "03:59:43", "end": "03:59:45", "text": "a child was left behind."}, {"start": "03:59:45", "end": "03:59:48", "text": ">> Not an animal."}, {"start": "03:59:45", "end": "03:59:51", "text": ">> Not an animal, not a pet, not nothing."}, {"start": "03:59:48", "end": "03:59:53", "text": "Every living thing"}, {"start": "03:59:51", "end": "03:59:56", "text": "on the entire island of Akrotiri was"}, {"start": "03:59:53", "end": "03:59:57", "text": "evacuated."}, {"start": "03:59:56", "end": "03:59:59", "text": "And then"}, {"start": "03:59:57", "end": "04:00:01", "text": "they were all they were all brought"}, {"start": "03:59:59", "end": "04:00:02", "text": "probably mostly to Crete. They must have"}, {"start": "04:00:01", "end": "04:00:03", "text": "been. I mean, there are some other"}, {"start": "04:00:02", "end": "04:00:06", "text": "Minoan islands."}, {"start": "04:00:03", "end": "04:00:09", "text": "And shortly after that, the entire sky"}, {"start": "04:00:06", "end": "04:00:11", "text": "over Crete just completely turns black."}, {"start": "04:00:09", "end": "04:00:14", "text": "And"}, {"start": "04:00:11", "end": "04:00:17", "text": "the fourth largest volcanic eruption in"}, {"start": "04:00:14", "end": "04:00:19", "text": "the history of planet Earth"}, {"start": "04:00:17", "end": "04:00:20", "text": "just erupted from the core of the island"}, {"start": "04:00:19", "end": "04:00:22", "text": "of Santorini."}, {"start": "04:00:20", "end": "04:00:25", "text": "And the Minoans were so capable that"}, {"start": "04:00:22", "end": "04:00:25", "text": "they prevented every single person"}, {"start": "04:00:25", "end": "04:00:27", "text": "It's amazing."}, {"start": "04:00:25", "end": "04:00:29", "text": ">> from not a single casualty."}, {"start": "04:00:27", "end": "04:00:31", "text": ">> Not a single casualty of the fourth"}, {"start": "04:00:29", "end": "04:00:34", "text": "largest eruption on planet Earth."}, {"start": "04:00:31", "end": "04:00:36", "text": "And I think the largest one"}, {"start": "04:00:34", "end": "04:00:38", "text": "during the time of humanity. I'm pretty"}, {"start": "04:00:36", "end": "04:00:39", "text": "I'm I think that that might be right."}, {"start": "04:00:38", "end": "04:00:42", "text": ">> The largest volcanic eruption during the"}, {"start": "04:00:39", "end": "04:00:43", "text": "time of humanity just Take us through"}, {"start": "04:00:42", "end": "04:00:45", "text": "the day."}, {"start": "04:00:43", "end": "04:00:46", "text": "What what it would have been like? Yeah,"}, {"start": "04:00:45", "end": "04:00:47", "text": "[clears throat] so um"}, {"start": "04:00:46", "end": "04:00:51", "text": ">> It's It's cuz it's three or four stages"}, {"start": "04:00:47", "end": "04:00:52", "text": "of hell. Yeah, yeah, it's it it is. Um"}, {"start": "04:00:51", "end": "04:00:53", "text": "And this is the Thera eruption, I"}, {"start": "04:00:52", "end": "04:00:55", "text": "believe."}, {"start": "04:00:53", "end": "04:00:56", "text": ">> Yeah, Thera. Yeah, yeah. Um so so it's"}, {"start": "04:00:55", "end": "04:00:58", "text": "the uh"}, {"start": "04:00:56", "end": "04:01:00", "text": "So the city is called Akrotiri, the"}, {"start": "04:00:58", "end": "04:01:01", "text": "island is Thera, and today it's known as"}, {"start": "04:01:00", "end": "04:01:04", "text": "Santorini."}, {"start": "04:01:01", "end": "04:01:05", "text": "Um so, you know, geologists have gone"}, {"start": "04:01:04", "end": "04:01:06", "text": "through Obviously, there was"}, {"start": "04:01:05", "end": "04:01:08", "text": "We don't think there's anybody there to"}, {"start": "04:01:06", "end": "04:01:10", "text": "witness it. Who knows? Maybe there were"}, {"start": "04:01:08", "end": "04:01:12", "text": "people out in the water that saw this."}, {"start": "04:01:10", "end": "04:01:13", "text": "Maybe they didn't survive. But I don't"}, {"start": "04:01:12", "end": "04:01:14", "text": "know. Um"}, {"start": "04:01:13", "end": "04:01:16", "text": "So the island [snorts]"}, {"start": "04:01:14", "end": "04:01:18", "text": "uh"}, {"start": "04:01:16", "end": "04:01:20", "text": "I forget the the the the chronological"}, {"start": "04:01:18", "end": "04:01:22", "text": "order of the different of the different"}, {"start": "04:01:20", "end": "04:01:24", "text": "stages, but um"}, {"start": "04:01:22", "end": "04:01:27", "text": "you have this initial eruption that"}, {"start": "04:01:24", "end": "04:01:29", "text": "causes this like I think it's a it's a"}, {"start": "04:01:27", "end": "04:01:31", "text": "20-mi-high"}, {"start": "04:01:29", "end": "04:01:34", "text": "column. It's a It's a column that's"}, {"start": "04:01:31", "end": "04:01:35", "text": "three times the height of Mount Everest."}, {"start": "04:01:34", "end": "04:01:38", "text": "That's That's what they estimated the"}, {"start": "04:01:35", "end": "04:01:41", "text": "the eruption to be. And it it sends this"}, {"start": "04:01:38", "end": "04:01:43", "text": "huge plume over the entire uh island of"}, {"start": "04:01:41", "end": "04:01:45", "text": "Crete, which we'll get to in just a"}, {"start": "04:01:43", "end": "04:01:47", "text": "moment as well, cuz that causes some"}, {"start": "04:01:45", "end": "04:01:49", "text": "havoc on Crete."}, {"start": "04:01:47", "end": "04:01:52", "text": "And um"}, {"start": "04:01:49", "end": "04:01:54", "text": "but what's what's fascinating is that"}, {"start": "04:01:52", "end": "04:01:56", "text": "when it sends this rubble into the city"}, {"start": "04:01:54", "end": "04:01:58", "text": "of Akrotiri, it knocks down it knocks"}, {"start": "04:01:56", "end": "04:02:00", "text": "down some of the buildings. And this all"}, {"start": "04:01:58", "end": "04:02:04", "text": "happens over the course of just like 48"}, {"start": "04:02:00", "end": "04:02:07", "text": "hours, 72 hours. And it it it sends"}, {"start": "04:02:04", "end": "04:02:08", "text": "rubble and shrapnel onto uh onto"}, {"start": "04:02:07", "end": "04:02:10", "text": "Akrotiri, knocks down some of the"}, {"start": "04:02:08", "end": "04:02:11", "text": "buildings, but not actually too many of"}, {"start": "04:02:10", "end": "04:02:13", "text": "them. And they think that it's the"}, {"start": "04:02:11", "end": "04:02:16", "text": "shaking of the island because most of"}, {"start": "04:02:13", "end": "04:02:17", "text": "the shrapnel actually gets launched into"}, {"start": "04:02:16", "end": "04:02:19", "text": "the island of Crete itself. Like there"}, {"start": "04:02:17", "end": "04:02:21", "text": "are boulders that smashed Oh, yeah,"}, {"start": "04:02:19", "end": "04:02:24", "text": "there are boulders that smashed into the"}, {"start": "04:02:21", "end": "04:02:27", "text": "island. But mostly it was this white"}, {"start": "04:02:24", "end": "04:02:28", "text": "pumice that would that would"}, {"start": "04:02:27", "end": "04:02:29", "text": "uh"}, {"start": "04:02:28", "end": "04:02:32", "text": "kind of like um"}, {"start": "04:02:29", "end": "04:02:37", "text": "fall down like snow. And it covered the"}, {"start": "04:02:32", "end": "04:02:39", "text": "city in 20 ft of volcanic ash and"}, {"start": "04:02:37", "end": "04:02:41", "text": "pumice, and which eventually packed and"}, {"start": "04:02:39", "end": "04:02:42", "text": "became like this solid rock. 20 ft in a"}, {"start": "04:02:41", "end": "04:02:44", "text": "probably in a day, right?"}, {"start": "04:02:42", "end": "04:02:46", "text": ">> 20 ft in a day. So, imagine it's a"}, {"start": "04:02:44", "end": "04:02:48", "text": "Like you can't see anything. There's no"}, {"start": "04:02:46", "end": "04:02:50", "text": "If you were there,"}, {"start": "04:02:48", "end": "04:02:52", "text": "there's no visual at all. It's just"}, {"start": "04:02:50", "end": "04:02:56", "text": "black. This is Vesuvius just without the"}, {"start": "04:02:52", "end": "04:02:58", "text": "people. Exactly. Exactly, yeah. Um"}, {"start": "04:02:56", "end": "04:03:00", "text": "and so if if you were there, there would"}, {"start": "04:02:58", "end": "04:03:02", "text": "be no sunlight coming through the sky."}, {"start": "04:03:00", "end": "04:03:04", "text": "That's how dense the pumice and ash"}, {"start": "04:03:02", "end": "04:03:06", "text": "falling from the volcanic eruption. It's"}, {"start": "04:03:04", "end": "04:03:08", "text": "just straight up blackness."}, {"start": "04:03:06", "end": "04:03:11", "text": "And uh but there were there were parts"}, {"start": "04:03:08", "end": "04:03:12", "text": "of the city that were not actually, for"}, {"start": "04:03:11", "end": "04:03:15", "text": "some reason, you know, maybe it has to"}, {"start": "04:03:12", "end": "04:03:17", "text": "do with the wind or or the way that the"}, {"start": "04:03:15", "end": "04:03:19", "text": "uh the way that the air is circulating"}, {"start": "04:03:17", "end": "04:03:22", "text": "inside the explosion, there are places"}, {"start": "04:03:19", "end": "04:03:26", "text": "where that air is not blowing the ash"}, {"start": "04:03:22", "end": "04:03:27", "text": "onto certain corners of the city."}, {"start": "04:03:26", "end": "04:03:29", "text": "So,"}, {"start": "04:03:27", "end": "04:03:31", "text": ">> [snorts]"}, {"start": "04:03:29", "end": "04:03:33", "text": ">> there's a part that geologists estimate"}, {"start": "04:03:31", "end": "04:03:37", "text": "that happened later in the eruption"}, {"start": "04:03:33", "end": "04:03:38", "text": "where when the caldera fell,"}, {"start": "04:03:37", "end": "04:03:41", "text": "there's like all of a sudden there's"}, {"start": "04:03:38", "end": "04:03:42", "text": "this bubble. There's this huge uh like"}, {"start": "04:03:41", "end": "04:03:45", "text": "vacuum, I guess,"}, {"start": "04:03:42", "end": "04:03:47", "text": "um in the in the island. And so, the"}, {"start": "04:03:45", "end": "04:03:49", "text": "caldera sinks in after it erupts, but"}, {"start": "04:03:47", "end": "04:03:51", "text": "the caldera is superheated, and you have"}, {"start": "04:03:49", "end": "04:03:53", "text": "this cold water from the Aegean that"}, {"start": "04:03:51", "end": "04:03:55", "text": "spills into it. And when it does, it"}, {"start": "04:03:53", "end": "04:03:55", "text": "causes these steam explosions."}, {"start": "04:03:55", "end": "04:03:57", "text": ">> Explosions."}, {"start": "04:03:55", "end": "04:04:00", "text": ">> And those explosions that are I mean,"}, {"start": "04:03:57", "end": "04:04:01", "text": "who knows? Like as hot as the sun are"}, {"start": "04:04:00", "end": "04:04:03", "text": "coming up and"}, {"start": "04:04:01", "end": "04:04:05", "text": "sweeping over the city and just"}, {"start": "04:04:03", "end": "04:04:07", "text": "scorching the sides of the buildings and"}, {"start": "04:04:05", "end": "04:04:08", "text": "knocking them down. So, you can find the"}, {"start": "04:04:07", "end": "04:04:10", "text": "buildings where they're knocked down"}, {"start": "04:04:08", "end": "04:04:12", "text": "that they have like these burn marks all"}, {"start": "04:04:10", "end": "04:04:14", "text": "on one side. And when they uh somehow"}, {"start": "04:04:12", "end": "04:04:16", "text": "investigate the the burn marks or take"}, {"start": "04:04:14", "end": "04:04:18", "text": "samples of it, they can tell that these"}, {"start": "04:04:16", "end": "04:04:19", "text": "came from"}, {"start": "04:04:18", "end": "04:04:21", "text": "uh somehow they can tell that it came"}, {"start": "04:04:19", "end": "04:04:23", "text": "from steam that had burned it cuz it's"}, {"start": "04:04:21", "end": "04:04:24", "text": "not the same sort of uh"}, {"start": "04:04:23", "end": "04:04:26", "text": "you know, the same kind of burning I"}, {"start": "04:04:24", "end": "04:04:28", "text": "don't I don't know how these guys do the"}, {"start": "04:04:26", "end": "04:04:31", "text": "things that they do. But uh yeah, I"}, {"start": "04:04:28", "end": "04:04:33", "text": "mean, just just devastating. But what's"}, {"start": "04:04:31", "end": "04:04:35", "text": "So, it erupts and completely"}, {"start": "04:04:33", "end": "04:04:37", "text": "uh"}, {"start": "04:04:35", "end": "04:04:40", "text": "throws the entire wrench in the core"}, {"start": "04:04:37", "end": "04:04:42", "text": "island that"}, {"start": "04:04:40", "end": "04:04:43", "text": "sort of facilitated the wealth in and"}, {"start": "04:04:42", "end": "04:04:45", "text": "out of Crete, especially with the with"}, {"start": "04:04:43", "end": "04:04:47", "text": "the mainland. And there's so much copper"}, {"start": "04:04:45", "end": "04:04:49", "text": "coming from Akrotiri back to Crete to be"}, {"start": "04:04:47", "end": "04:04:50", "text": "sold into the Mediterranean."}, {"start": "04:04:49", "end": "04:04:52", "text": "Uh"}, {"start": "04:04:50", "end": "04:04:53", "text": "it's it's disrupting their economy, but"}, {"start": "04:04:52", "end": "04:04:56", "text": "also the waves"}, {"start": "04:04:53", "end": "04:04:57", "text": "are just like uh just like Alexandria"}, {"start": "04:04:56", "end": "04:05:01", "text": "getting hit with that massive wave, the"}, {"start": "04:04:57", "end": "04:05:03", "text": "whole northern side of Crete, all their"}, {"start": "04:05:01", "end": "04:05:05", "text": "docks that so many other palaces were"}, {"start": "04:05:03", "end": "04:05:07", "text": "built on, the docks are just uplifted"}, {"start": "04:05:05", "end": "04:05:09", "text": "and thrown into the mainland. And we"}, {"start": "04:05:07", "end": "04:05:12", "text": "have um"}, {"start": "04:05:09", "end": "04:05:15", "text": "we have uh archaeological evidence of"}, {"start": "04:05:12", "end": "04:05:16", "text": "parts of the docks and um"}, {"start": "04:05:15", "end": "04:05:19", "text": "I'm not sure how they do this, but"}, {"start": "04:05:16", "end": "04:05:21", "text": "they're able to find"}, {"start": "04:05:19", "end": "04:05:23", "text": "evidence that the water"}, {"start": "04:05:21", "end": "04:05:25", "text": "came up like"}, {"start": "04:05:23", "end": "04:05:28", "text": "is that 50 ft or 50 m? It's something"}, {"start": "04:05:25", "end": "04:05:29", "text": "like that and like 500 yd inland. So, it"}, {"start": "04:05:28", "end": "04:05:31", "text": "it went"}, {"start": "04:05:29", "end": "04:05:33", "text": "Yeah. It just covered the you know, the"}, {"start": "04:05:31", "end": "04:05:35", "text": "the that northern part of Crete and went"}, {"start": "04:05:33", "end": "04:05:36", "text": "way up into the hills."}, {"start": "04:05:35", "end": "04:05:38", "text": "We [snorts] have no idea how many people"}, {"start": "04:05:36", "end": "04:05:39", "text": "died during this I mean, we just we just"}, {"start": "04:05:38", "end": "04:05:41", "text": "don't know."}, {"start": "04:05:39", "end": "04:05:43", "text": "So, at some point"}, {"start": "04:05:41", "end": "04:05:46", "text": "between right then during the time of"}, {"start": "04:05:43", "end": "04:05:48", "text": "this eruption and the the the carbon"}, {"start": "04:05:46", "end": "04:05:51", "text": "dating it it kind of goes back and forth"}, {"start": "04:05:48", "end": "04:05:53", "text": "like one decade or or one half century."}, {"start": "04:05:51", "end": "04:05:54", "text": "They they think that it happened"}, {"start": "04:05:53", "end": "04:05:56", "text": "immediately [snorts] after the eruption"}, {"start": "04:05:54", "end": "04:05:57", "text": "and right now just as of like the last"}, {"start": "04:05:56", "end": "04:06:00", "text": "couple years, they think that this"}, {"start": "04:05:57", "end": "04:06:01", "text": "happened like 100 years later."}, {"start": "04:06:00", "end": "04:06:02", "text": "I don't know that happening immediately"}, {"start": "04:06:01", "end": "04:06:05", "text": "after the eruption makes sense to me,"}, {"start": "04:06:02", "end": "04:06:07", "text": "but immediately after the eruption"}, {"start": "04:06:05", "end": "04:06:10", "text": "the entire island of Crete becomes"}, {"start": "04:06:07", "end": "04:06:11", "text": "covered with this thin burn layer."}, {"start": "04:06:10", "end": "04:06:14", "text": "And it's not a thick burn layer. It's a"}, {"start": "04:06:11", "end": "04:06:17", "text": "thin burn layer. And they nobody could"}, {"start": "04:06:14", "end": "04:06:19", "text": "explain why that is. And the only theory"}, {"start": "04:06:17", "end": "04:06:21", "text": "I've heard proposed that makes sense is"}, {"start": "04:06:19", "end": "04:06:24", "text": "when that plume covers"}, {"start": "04:06:21", "end": "04:06:25", "text": "the covers the country or covers the"}, {"start": "04:06:24", "end": "04:06:28", "text": "island of Crete. Actually, it was so"}, {"start": "04:06:25", "end": "04:06:30", "text": "significant that um"}, {"start": "04:06:28", "end": "04:06:33", "text": "I think it was uh"}, {"start": "04:06:30", "end": "04:06:34", "text": "one of the"}, {"start": "04:06:33", "end": "04:06:37", "text": "Yeah, no. I think it was almost the"}, {"start": "04:06:34", "end": "04:06:40", "text": "first. The founder either the founder of"}, {"start": "04:06:37", "end": "04:06:43", "text": "the uh of Egypt's New Kingdom or he's"}, {"start": "04:06:40", "end": "04:06:45", "text": "the or he's the first pharaoh to use the"}, {"start": "04:06:43", "end": "04:06:47", "text": "Valley of Kings. Um"}, {"start": "04:06:45", "end": "04:06:49", "text": "but he writes about personally"}, {"start": "04:06:47", "end": "04:06:52", "text": "witnessing himself this massive storm"}, {"start": "04:06:49", "end": "04:06:54", "text": "that covered uh all of Egypt. Some of"}, {"start": "04:06:52", "end": "04:06:55", "text": "some people link this to the uh plagues."}, {"start": "04:06:54", "end": "04:06:57", "text": ">> to the plagues of the Exodus. That's"}, {"start": "04:06:55", "end": "04:06:59", "text": "right."}, {"start": "04:06:57", "end": "04:07:02", "text": ">> it's possible. I think it's possible. Um"}, {"start": "04:06:59", "end": "04:07:03", "text": "and cuz you mean gosh, you can only"}, {"start": "04:07:02", "end": "04:07:05", "text": "imagine what that would cause in in a"}, {"start": "04:07:03", "end": "04:07:08", "text": "country. Um and and what's interesting"}, {"start": "04:07:05", "end": "04:07:10", "text": "is those plagues are are also naturally"}, {"start": "04:07:08", "end": "04:07:12", "text": "occurring phenomena if something is a"}, {"start": "04:07:10", "end": "04:07:14", "text": "catalyst that starts it, right? So, that"}, {"start": "04:07:12", "end": "04:07:15", "text": "that's kind of interesting."}, {"start": "04:07:14", "end": "04:07:17", "text": "And also [snorts] that story can be like"}, {"start": "04:07:15", "end": "04:07:19", "text": "an amalgamation of different things that"}, {"start": "04:07:17", "end": "04:07:21", "text": "actually did happen in Egypt and they're"}, {"start": "04:07:19", "end": "04:07:23", "text": "condensed into a story like"}, {"start": "04:07:21", "end": "04:07:26", "text": "I think it's I think that that they try"}, {"start": "04:07:23", "end": "04:07:28", "text": "to say the Exodus began being written in"}, {"start": "04:07:26", "end": "04:07:29", "text": "like 900 BC, something like that."}, {"start": "04:07:28", "end": "04:07:30", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "04:07:29", "end": "04:07:33", "text": "but uh"}, {"start": "04:07:30", "end": "04:07:35", "text": "so the the best theory I've heard of of"}, {"start": "04:07:33", "end": "04:07:37", "text": "why Minoan civilization collapsed is not"}, {"start": "04:07:35", "end": "04:07:39", "text": "only is the copper trade being"}, {"start": "04:07:37", "end": "04:07:41", "text": "uh disrupted by the eruption of Thera,"}, {"start": "04:07:39", "end": "04:07:42", "text": "the destruction of Akrotiri, the wiping"}, {"start": "04:07:41", "end": "04:07:45", "text": "[snorts] out of the copper trade, at"}, {"start": "04:07:42", "end": "04:07:47", "text": "least most of it, and the pummeling of"}, {"start": "04:07:45", "end": "04:07:49", "text": "all these uh northern shore docks where"}, {"start": "04:07:47", "end": "04:07:51", "text": "the palaces are at, which obviously"}, {"start": "04:07:49", "end": "04:07:53", "text": "erupts the trade. People arrive on Crete"}, {"start": "04:07:51", "end": "04:07:54", "text": "and like, \"What the happened to"}, {"start": "04:07:53", "end": "04:07:56", "text": "this place?\" you know."}, {"start": "04:07:54", "end": "04:07:57", "text": "This cascades throughout the entire"}, {"start": "04:07:56", "end": "04:07:59", "text": "world. This is the collapse of the"}, {"start": "04:07:57", "end": "04:08:00", "text": "Bronze Age. Yeah, yeah."}, {"start": "04:07:59", "end": "04:08:03", "text": "The The other thing is that the The"}, {"start": "04:08:00", "end": "04:08:05", "text": "whole island of Crete itself is covered"}, {"start": "04:08:03", "end": "04:08:07", "text": "with this thin burn layer. And it"}, {"start": "04:08:05", "end": "04:08:08", "text": "doesn't look like"}, {"start": "04:08:07", "end": "04:08:09", "text": "uh some archaeologists look at it and"}, {"start": "04:08:08", "end": "04:08:10", "text": "and they don't think that it's"}, {"start": "04:08:09", "end": "04:08:12", "text": "consistent with an attack cuz you can"}, {"start": "04:08:10", "end": "04:08:14", "text": "see what burn layers look like in"}, {"start": "04:08:12", "end": "04:08:15", "text": "attacks like like the like the city of"}, {"start": "04:08:14", "end": "04:08:18", "text": "Troy when they finally found it and they"}, {"start": "04:08:15", "end": "04:08:19", "text": "excavated it, they see they've seen what"}, {"start": "04:08:18", "end": "04:08:21", "text": "those burn layers look like and they're"}, {"start": "04:08:19", "end": "04:08:25", "text": "more intense, they're more spotty. And"}, {"start": "04:08:21", "end": "04:08:27", "text": "so the theory I actually like is"}, {"start": "04:08:25", "end": "04:08:28", "text": "this idea that the whole island would"}, {"start": "04:08:27", "end": "04:08:31", "text": "have been"}, {"start": "04:08:28", "end": "04:08:33", "text": "night for a day, two, three days at"}, {"start": "04:08:31", "end": "04:08:36", "text": "most. Think about how quickly chaos"}, {"start": "04:08:33", "end": "04:08:37", "text": "erupts and even more candles and torches"}, {"start": "04:08:36", "end": "04:08:39", "text": "are lit than ever before. Everybody has"}, {"start": "04:08:37", "end": "04:08:42", "text": "them, everybody has them lit and chaos"}, {"start": "04:08:39", "end": "04:08:44", "text": "erupts and crime is probably rampant."}, {"start": "04:08:42", "end": "04:08:46", "text": "People start going hungry, right? Like"}, {"start": "04:08:44", "end": "04:08:48", "text": "within within 12 hours people start"}, {"start": "04:08:46", "end": "04:08:51", "text": "going hungry and doing crazy things for"}, {"start": "04:08:48", "end": "04:08:52", "text": "food. Crime is probably rampant. And the"}, {"start": "04:08:51", "end": "04:08:55", "text": "best idea I think is that the Minoans"}, {"start": "04:08:52", "end": "04:08:55", "text": "burned down the island"}, {"start": "04:08:55", "end": "04:08:57", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "04:08:55", "end": "04:08:58", "text": ">> chaos of the darkness. I have not heard"}, {"start": "04:08:57", "end": "04:09:00", "text": "that theory."}, {"start": "04:08:58", "end": "04:09:01", "text": ">> Yeah, yeah. That they, you know, they"}, {"start": "04:09:00", "end": "04:09:03", "text": "kick over they kick over lances and"}, {"start": "04:09:01", "end": "04:09:04", "text": "lanterns and they burn down their own"}, {"start": "04:09:03", "end": "04:09:06", "text": "cities by accident because there's so"}, {"start": "04:09:04", "end": "04:09:08", "text": "much chaos, nobody can see anything."}, {"start": "04:09:06", "end": "04:09:10", "text": "Nobody's showing up for work, you know,"}, {"start": "04:09:08", "end": "04:09:11", "text": "it's just you you can't even imagine."}, {"start": "04:09:10", "end": "04:09:12", "text": "It's like the end of the world. You"}, {"start": "04:09:11", "end": "04:09:15", "text": "know, it's literally the end of the"}, {"start": "04:09:12", "end": "04:09:16", "text": "world. So, they accidentally burned down"}, {"start": "04:09:15", "end": "04:09:17", "text": "everything because you think of how many"}, {"start": "04:09:16", "end": "04:09:20", "text": "fires you have to light just to be able"}, {"start": "04:09:17", "end": "04:09:22", "text": "to see. Wasn't Knossos the only city to"}, {"start": "04:09:20", "end": "04:09:26", "text": "even survive that? Well, it only"}, {"start": "04:09:22", "end": "04:09:29", "text": "survived because when"}, {"start": "04:09:26", "end": "04:09:31", "text": "beyond this point of this burning"}, {"start": "04:09:29", "end": "04:09:32", "text": "the Minoan world is gone. It's gone."}, {"start": "04:09:31", "end": "04:09:35", "text": "It's gone."}, {"start": "04:09:32", "end": "04:09:37", "text": ">> Because when Knossos comes back"}, {"start": "04:09:35", "end": "04:09:37", "text": "it comes back with Linear B."}, {"start": "04:09:37", "end": "04:09:40", "text": "Mycenaeans"}, {"start": "04:09:37", "end": "04:09:44", "text": ">> Mycenaeans The My- The Mycenaeans"}, {"start": "04:09:40", "end": "04:09:46", "text": "whether they saw the declining of like"}, {"start": "04:09:44", "end": "04:09:47", "text": "again"}, {"start": "04:09:46", "end": "04:09:48", "text": "archaeologists don't necessarily know if"}, {"start": "04:09:47", "end": "04:09:50", "text": "that burning happened immediately"}, {"start": "04:09:48", "end": "04:09:53", "text": "following the eruption or if it happened"}, {"start": "04:09:50", "end": "04:09:54", "text": "50 to 100 years later. If it happened 50"}, {"start": "04:09:53", "end": "04:09:57", "text": "to 100 years later, that means it was a"}, {"start": "04:09:54", "end": "04:10:00", "text": "massive invasion of the Minoan mainland"}, {"start": "04:09:57", "end": "04:10:01", "text": "by Mycenae on a scale"}, {"start": "04:10:00", "end": "04:10:04", "text": "that makes the Trojan War look like"}, {"start": "04:10:01", "end": "04:10:06", "text": "this. Right. Literally, the Trojan War"}, {"start": "04:10:04", "end": "04:10:08", "text": "is nothing compared to the scale of the"}, {"start": "04:10:06", "end": "04:10:10", "text": "invasion that it would have taken to"}, {"start": "04:10:08", "end": "04:10:12", "text": "conquer Crete."}, {"start": "04:10:10", "end": "04:10:14", "text": "Nothing."}, {"start": "04:10:12", "end": "04:10:17", "text": "Not even close. The Troy is only"}, {"start": "04:10:14", "end": "04:10:17", "text": "significant because it gets told in that"}, {"start": "04:10:17", "end": "04:10:19", "text": "story."}, {"start": "04:10:17", "end": "04:10:21", "text": ">> Right. But all it is is a tiny little"}, {"start": "04:10:19", "end": "04:10:24", "text": "port city that controls the entry to the"}, {"start": "04:10:21", "end": "04:10:26", "text": "Black Sea. Troy was not a significant It"}, {"start": "04:10:24", "end": "04:10:28", "text": "wasn't like an overly wealthy place. The"}, {"start": "04:10:26", "end": "04:10:30", "text": "the artifacts that come out of Troy"}, {"start": "04:10:28", "end": "04:10:33", "text": "aren't really that impressive. Um maybe"}, {"start": "04:10:30", "end": "04:10:35", "text": "10,000 people. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah."}, {"start": "04:10:33", "end": "04:10:36", "text": "The Minoan world"}, {"start": "04:10:35", "end": "04:10:39", "text": "you're talking about you're talking"}, {"start": "04:10:36", "end": "04:10:40", "text": "about World War Zero to to conquer that"}, {"start": "04:10:39", "end": "04:10:42", "text": "place."}, {"start": "04:10:40", "end": "04:10:45", "text": ">> You know, couldn't the Mycenaeans just"}, {"start": "04:10:42", "end": "04:10:46", "text": "when the island was basically empty and"}, {"start": "04:10:45", "end": "04:10:48", "text": "they they just rolled [clears throat]"}, {"start": "04:10:46", "end": "04:10:50", "text": "over there?"}, {"start": "04:10:48", "end": "04:10:53", "text": "It There's no evidence of war, is there?"}, {"start": "04:10:50", "end": "04:10:54", "text": "V- No, no. Other than the burning. No."}, {"start": "04:10:53", "end": "04:10:58", "text": "Other than the burning. No. And so, the"}, {"start": "04:10:54", "end": "04:11:00", "text": "other thing is is um"}, {"start": "04:10:58", "end": "04:11:01", "text": "if if they went over and conquered,"}, {"start": "04:11:00", "end": "04:11:03", "text": "there was a little bit of fighting."}, {"start": "04:11:01", "end": "04:11:05", "text": "That's why the burn That's why the burn"}, {"start": "04:11:03", "end": "04:11:06", "text": "marks are there. Um"}, {"start": "04:11:05", "end": "04:11:09", "text": "it something had to have happened. If"}, {"start": "04:11:06", "end": "04:11:10", "text": "that if that wasn't a direct result of"}, {"start": "04:11:09", "end": "04:11:12", "text": "because it's across the entire island so"}, {"start": "04:11:10", "end": "04:11:14", "text": "the thin burn mark. So there had to have"}, {"start": "04:11:12", "end": "04:11:16", "text": "been conflict and that's why people say"}, {"start": "04:11:14", "end": "04:11:18", "text": "if if that doesn't if that didn't happen"}, {"start": "04:11:16", "end": "04:11:20", "text": "as a direct result of the Minoans"}, {"start": "04:11:18", "end": "04:11:21", "text": "accidentally one of the other things I"}, {"start": "04:11:20", "end": "04:11:23", "text": "thought was that it was shrapnel from"}, {"start": "04:11:21", "end": "04:11:25", "text": "the volcano landing on the island and"}, {"start": "04:11:23", "end": "04:11:26", "text": "causing fires but that's"}, {"start": "04:11:25", "end": "04:11:28", "text": "The island's massive. I don't think that"}, {"start": "04:11:26", "end": "04:11:31", "text": "that stacks up. So um"}, {"start": "04:11:28", "end": "04:11:33", "text": ">> Yeah, it's like 160 miles wide."}, {"start": "04:11:31", "end": "04:11:36", "text": "Right, is it Think that's right. Yeah,"}, {"start": "04:11:33", "end": "04:11:38", "text": "it's 160 miles wide and 300 yards like"}, {"start": "04:11:36", "end": "04:11:41", "text": "north to south or yeah, I'm sorry. 300"}, {"start": "04:11:38", "end": "04:11:42", "text": "miles. Right, it's 30 miles north to"}, {"start": "04:11:41", "end": "04:11:44", "text": "south. Yeah."}, {"start": "04:11:42", "end": "04:11:46", "text": "So um"}, {"start": "04:11:44", "end": "04:11:49", "text": "Yeah, that that doesn't really stack up."}, {"start": "04:11:46", "end": "04:11:51", "text": "So if if they didn't burn down"}, {"start": "04:11:49", "end": "04:11:54", "text": "the island accidentally right after the"}, {"start": "04:11:51", "end": "04:11:55", "text": "eruption then it had to be like a light"}, {"start": "04:11:54", "end": "04:11:58", "text": "some kind of skirmishing across the"}, {"start": "04:11:55", "end": "04:12:00", "text": "island but regardless the only palace"}, {"start": "04:11:58", "end": "04:12:02", "text": "that re-emerges is Knossos which is the"}, {"start": "04:12:00", "end": "04:12:04", "text": "biggest and and most lavish one and the"}, {"start": "04:12:02", "end": "04:12:06", "text": "Mycenaeans must have known that. And so"}, {"start": "04:12:04", "end": "04:12:08", "text": "they rebuild the palace and put it back"}, {"start": "04:12:06", "end": "04:12:09", "text": "together but"}, {"start": "04:12:08", "end": "04:12:11", "text": "the art style has changed, the"}, {"start": "04:12:09", "end": "04:12:14", "text": "architecture has changed, the pottery"}, {"start": "04:12:11", "end": "04:12:16", "text": "changes and that official language"}, {"start": "04:12:14", "end": "04:12:19", "text": "that's used to kind of log trading"}, {"start": "04:12:16", "end": "04:12:21", "text": "coming in and out changes from Linear A"}, {"start": "04:12:19", "end": "04:12:23", "text": "to Linear B which is Mycenaean you know"}, {"start": "04:12:21", "end": "04:12:24", "text": "writing language that they were also"}, {"start": "04:12:23", "end": "04:12:25", "text": "using. And so"}, {"start": "04:12:24", "end": "04:12:27", "text": ">> so now they're speaking Greek. Now"}, {"start": "04:12:25", "end": "04:12:29", "text": "they're speaking Greek. And so so the"}, {"start": "04:12:27", "end": "04:12:31", "text": "Mycenaeans just permeate permeate"}, {"start": "04:12:29", "end": "04:12:33", "text": "throughout the entire island of Crete"}, {"start": "04:12:31", "end": "04:12:35", "text": "and take that over and the Minoan"}, {"start": "04:12:33", "end": "04:12:38", "text": "civilization just"}, {"start": "04:12:35", "end": "04:12:39", "text": "dis- like disappears into time. And I"}, {"start": "04:12:38", "end": "04:12:42", "text": "think"}, {"start": "04:12:39", "end": "04:12:42", "text": "that when Plato"}, {"start": "04:12:42", "end": "04:12:43", "text": ">> [snorts]"}, {"start": "04:12:42", "end": "04:12:45", "text": ">> is"}, {"start": "04:12:43", "end": "04:12:48", "text": "talking about you know in his writings"}, {"start": "04:12:45", "end": "04:12:50", "text": "in the Republic and uh and all the times"}, {"start": "04:12:48", "end": "04:12:53", "text": "he mentions Atlantis I think"}, {"start": "04:12:50", "end": "04:12:55", "text": ">> dialogues. Yeah, I think he's drawing on"}, {"start": "04:12:53", "end": "04:12:56", "text": "at least two different things. Maybe"}, {"start": "04:12:55", "end": "04:12:58", "text": "there's a third thing."}, {"start": "04:12:56", "end": "04:13:01", "text": "But um"}, {"start": "04:12:58", "end": "04:13:04", "text": "you know the city of Helike had just"}, {"start": "04:13:01", "end": "04:13:05", "text": "been it's a Greek city on on on the"}, {"start": "04:13:04", "end": "04:13:08", "text": "western coast or on the eastern coast of"}, {"start": "04:13:05", "end": "04:13:11", "text": "mainland Greece and it was sunken by a"}, {"start": "04:13:08", "end": "04:13:13", "text": "tsunami just 10 or 13 years before he"}, {"start": "04:13:11", "end": "04:13:15", "text": "even mentions Atlantis. So, I wonder if"}, {"start": "04:13:13", "end": "04:13:18", "text": "that got him thinking."}, {"start": "04:13:15", "end": "04:13:21", "text": "But then also oral traditions survived."}, {"start": "04:13:18", "end": "04:13:23", "text": "Nobody had forgotten about the Minoan"}, {"start": "04:13:21", "end": "04:13:24", "text": "world being destroyed. People don't"}, {"start": "04:13:23", "end": "04:13:27", "text": "forget cataclysms, you know, that's why"}, {"start": "04:13:24", "end": "04:13:30", "text": "the flood myths exist for all of time."}, {"start": "04:13:27", "end": "04:13:32", "text": ">> Right. And and I think that even though"}, {"start": "04:13:30", "end": "04:13:33", "text": "it's invisible to us and we can't really"}, {"start": "04:13:32", "end": "04:13:35", "text": "see it"}, {"start": "04:13:33", "end": "04:13:37", "text": "and we can't see the connections,"}, {"start": "04:13:35", "end": "04:13:42", "text": "I think that"}, {"start": "04:13:37", "end": "04:13:43", "text": "Plato is drawing on these early"}, {"start": "04:13:42", "end": "04:13:45", "text": "fuzzy myths that survived from the"}, {"start": "04:13:43", "end": "04:13:48", "text": "Bronze Age when he's when he's telling"}, {"start": "04:13:45", "end": "04:13:50", "text": "the story of Atlantis and I'm not sure"}, {"start": "04:13:48", "end": "04:13:52", "text": "what to think of necessarily of of the"}, {"start": "04:13:50", "end": "04:13:54", "text": "Solon story. I just I just don't know."}, {"start": "04:13:52", "end": "04:13:57", "text": "Have you heard the theory about how they"}, {"start": "04:13:54", "end": "04:13:58", "text": "may have [snorts] got the math wrong?"}, {"start": "04:13:57", "end": "04:14:00", "text": "No. There's"}, {"start": "04:13:58", "end": "04:14:04", "text": "the ancient Egyptians weren't great at"}, {"start": "04:14:00", "end": "04:14:07", "text": "math. Okay. So, their symbol for 100"}, {"start": "04:14:04", "end": "04:14:07", "text": "could have been misinterpreted as a 10."}, {"start": "04:14:07", "end": "04:14:09", "text": "Oh, yeah, yeah."}, {"start": "04:14:07", "end": "04:14:11", "text": ">> So, Plato's saying that this happened"}, {"start": "04:14:09", "end": "04:14:13", "text": "9,000 years ago. If that theory is"}, {"start": "04:14:11", "end": "04:14:16", "text": "correct, it would have happened 900"}, {"start": "04:14:13", "end": "04:14:17", "text": "years ago and that would place it right"}, {"start": "04:14:16", "end": "04:14:19", "text": "at the 12th century BC, right at the"}, {"start": "04:14:17", "end": "04:14:20", "text": "collapse of the Bronze Age, like right"}, {"start": "04:14:19", "end": "04:14:23", "text": "dead there."}, {"start": "04:14:20", "end": "04:14:26", "text": "If if that theory is correct."}, {"start": "04:14:23", "end": "04:14:27", "text": "So, Plato's 400 BC. Now,"}, {"start": "04:14:26", "end": "04:14:29", "text": "now you know what's interesting is is"}, {"start": "04:14:27", "end": "04:14:31", "text": "that works in two different ways because"}, {"start": "04:14:29", "end": "04:14:33", "text": "if it's"}, {"start": "04:14:31", "end": "04:14:35", "text": "if it's if it's 900 years before Plato,"}, {"start": "04:14:33", "end": "04:14:38", "text": "it's the collapse of the Bronze Age, but"}, {"start": "04:14:35", "end": "04:14:40", "text": "if it's Solon saying that it's 900 years"}, {"start": "04:14:38", "end": "04:14:42", "text": "earlier instead, then that's the"}, {"start": "04:14:40", "end": "04:14:45", "text": "collapse of the Minoans."}, {"start": "04:14:42", "end": "04:14:47", "text": "That's true. Yeah. So, either way, so"}, {"start": "04:14:45", "end": "04:14:48", "text": "either way it works."}, {"start": "04:14:47", "end": "04:14:50", "text": "Yeah, cuz I think it might be Solon"}, {"start": "04:14:48", "end": "04:14:53", "text": "that's saying I think it might be I"}, {"start": "04:14:50", "end": "04:14:55", "text": "think it's Solon saying that in his I"}, {"start": "04:14:53", "end": "04:14:58", "text": "think it's Plato saying that Solon said"}, {"start": "04:14:55", "end": "04:14:58", "text": "in his time it was 9,000 years earlier."}, {"start": "04:14:58", "end": "04:15:02", "text": "So"}, {"start": "04:14:58", "end": "04:15:04", "text": ">> so if that's instead 900, Solon is let's"}, {"start": "04:15:02", "end": "04:15:07", "text": "say around"}, {"start": "04:15:04", "end": "04:15:11", "text": "Is he is he late 600s BC? So if that's"}, {"start": "04:15:07", "end": "04:15:14", "text": "900 years before, that's about 1600 BC."}, {"start": "04:15:11", "end": "04:15:16", "text": "Yep, that works. It it works. It's the"}, {"start": "04:15:14", "end": "04:15:17", "text": "the you know, those those numbers are"}, {"start": "04:15:16", "end": "04:15:17", "text": "there."}, {"start": "04:15:17", "end": "04:15:21", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "04:15:17", "end": "04:15:24", "text": "Now what's really interesting is okay,"}, {"start": "04:15:21", "end": "04:15:27", "text": "um the story of Atlantis itself is"}, {"start": "04:15:24", "end": "04:15:29", "text": "Athens conquering Atlantis. That's what"}, {"start": "04:15:27", "end": "04:15:30", "text": "they that's what they say."}, {"start": "04:15:29", "end": "04:15:32", "text": "People [snorts] forget that part. Well,"}, {"start": "04:15:30", "end": "04:15:35", "text": "Athens didn't exist"}, {"start": "04:15:32", "end": "04:15:36", "text": "in 11,000 BC or or whenever. You can you"}, {"start": "04:15:35", "end": "04:15:38", "text": "can excavate down to the bedrock."}, {"start": "04:15:36", "end": "04:15:40", "text": "There's just no evidence that there were"}, {"start": "04:15:38", "end": "04:15:42", "text": "people living at that specific place up"}, {"start": "04:15:40", "end": "04:15:43", "text": "on the plateau where where Athens um or"}, {"start": "04:15:42", "end": "04:15:45", "text": "you know, up at the Acropolis where"}, {"start": "04:15:43", "end": "04:15:47", "text": "Athens was cuz originally the Acropolis"}, {"start": "04:15:45", "end": "04:15:49", "text": "was not that"}, {"start": "04:15:47", "end": "04:15:51", "text": "was not that political uh religious sort"}, {"start": "04:15:49", "end": "04:15:53", "text": "of center. It was actually a castle. It"}, {"start": "04:15:51", "end": "04:15:54", "text": "was walled off during during the Bronze"}, {"start": "04:15:53", "end": "04:15:56", "text": "Age."}, {"start": "04:15:54", "end": "04:15:57", "text": "But here's what's really interesting"}, {"start": "04:15:56", "end": "04:15:59", "text": "is"}, {"start": "04:15:57", "end": "04:16:02", "text": "you know you know the story of Theseus"}, {"start": "04:15:59", "end": "04:16:04", "text": "and the Minotaur. Of course. Theseus uh"}, {"start": "04:16:02", "end": "04:16:05", "text": "kills the Minotaur."}, {"start": "04:16:04", "end": "04:16:08", "text": "Well,"}, {"start": "04:16:05", "end": "04:16:10", "text": "during the time of Mycenae conquering"}, {"start": "04:16:08", "end": "04:16:12", "text": "Crete,"}, {"start": "04:16:10", "end": "04:16:14", "text": "which Crete is the Minotaur, the Minoans"}, {"start": "04:16:12", "end": "04:16:15", "text": "are the Minotaur."}, {"start": "04:16:14", "end": "04:16:19", "text": "Well,"}, {"start": "04:16:15", "end": "04:16:22", "text": "Athens is just a vassal of Mycenae"}, {"start": "04:16:19", "end": "04:16:25", "text": "itself. So Athens is part of the greater"}, {"start": "04:16:22", "end": "04:16:27", "text": "Mycenae world. So Athens was a part of"}, {"start": "04:16:25", "end": "04:16:28", "text": "that conquering of the Minotaur. So when"}, {"start": "04:16:27", "end": "04:16:30", "text": "they talk about Theseus killing the"}, {"start": "04:16:28", "end": "04:16:32", "text": "Minotaur,"}, {"start": "04:16:30", "end": "04:16:34", "text": "Athens being a part of Mycenae did kill"}, {"start": "04:16:32", "end": "04:16:37", "text": "the Minotaur. That's true."}, {"start": "04:16:34", "end": "04:16:38", "text": ">> That actually is what happened. So"}, {"start": "04:16:37", "end": "04:16:39", "text": "when we talk about Athens killing"}, {"start": "04:16:38", "end": "04:16:42", "text": "Atlantis and Theseus killing the"}, {"start": "04:16:39", "end": "04:16:43", "text": "Minotaur, those two things are parallel"}, {"start": "04:16:42", "end": "04:16:45", "text": "to each other."}, {"start": "04:16:43", "end": "04:16:46", "text": ">> That's interesting because you've got"}, {"start": "04:16:45", "end": "04:16:47", "text": "K minus"}, {"start": "04:16:46", "end": "04:16:49", "text": "uh at"}, {"start": "04:16:47", "end": "04:16:51", "text": "at odds with the Mycenaeans and that"}, {"start": "04:16:49", "end": "04:16:55", "text": "happens with the Minotaur."}, {"start": "04:16:51", "end": "04:16:57", "text": "Then his grandson is Idomeneus, and they"}, {"start": "04:16:55", "end": "04:16:59", "text": "actually team up with the Mycenaeans to"}, {"start": "04:16:57", "end": "04:17:02", "text": "go and invade Troy with the 80 black"}, {"start": "04:16:59", "end": "04:17:04", "text": "ships. So, that all lines up. Yeah. It"}, {"start": "04:17:02", "end": "04:17:07", "text": "It The Iliad becomes a historical"}, {"start": "04:17:04", "end": "04:17:08", "text": "document. Yeah."}, {"start": "04:17:07", "end": "04:17:10", "text": "And then, have you read about the"}, {"start": "04:17:08", "end": "04:17:12", "text": "Hittite tablets regarding the Trojan"}, {"start": "04:17:10", "end": "04:17:15", "text": "War? No."}, {"start": "04:17:12", "end": "04:17:17", "text": "It's recorded in Hittite clay tablets"}, {"start": "04:17:15", "end": "04:17:20", "text": "about this diplomatic situation that's"}, {"start": "04:17:17", "end": "04:17:21", "text": "happening in this city that's I forget"}, {"start": "04:17:20", "end": "04:17:24", "text": "what they call it. I have it written"}, {"start": "04:17:21", "end": "04:17:26", "text": "down somewhere, but it's Ilium."}, {"start": "04:17:24", "end": "04:17:28", "text": "And"}, {"start": "04:17:26", "end": "04:17:30", "text": "there's a war with Ilium that finally"}, {"start": "04:17:28", "end": "04:17:32", "text": "gets resolved"}, {"start": "04:17:30", "end": "04:17:35", "text": "with the Treaty of Alexandru. And"}, {"start": "04:17:32", "end": "04:17:37", "text": "Alexandru is, of course, Alexander,"}, {"start": "04:17:35", "end": "04:17:40", "text": "which is the other name for Paris"}, {"start": "04:17:37", "end": "04:17:42", "text": "Okay. in the Iliad. So, the Hittites"}, {"start": "04:17:40", "end": "04:17:45", "text": "have documented the Trojan War. So, now"}, {"start": "04:17:42", "end": "04:17:46", "text": "we have it from the other side."}, {"start": "04:17:45", "end": "04:17:47", "text": "Oh, [snorts] that's fascinating. Yeah,"}, {"start": "04:17:46", "end": "04:17:48", "text": "it"}, {"start": "04:17:47", "end": "04:17:52", "text": "It makes sense. I mean, that's That's"}, {"start": "04:17:48", "end": "04:17:53", "text": "That is one of those things where, um,"}, {"start": "04:17:52", "end": "04:17:55", "text": "you know, there's so many times that"}, {"start": "04:17:53", "end": "04:17:57", "text": "that academics and archaeologists like"}, {"start": "04:17:55", "end": "04:17:59", "text": "blow something off as being totally"}, {"start": "04:17:57", "end": "04:18:00", "text": "myth, and it's not myth. It It You know,"}, {"start": "04:17:59", "end": "04:18:02", "text": "the myth is based on something that"}, {"start": "04:18:00", "end": "04:18:04", "text": "really did happen. You know what's You"}, {"start": "04:18:02", "end": "04:18:07", "text": "know what's really funny? Is, I will"}, {"start": "04:18:04", "end": "04:18:08", "text": "catch some flak sometimes for my Minoan"}, {"start": "04:18:07", "end": "04:18:10", "text": "Atlantis theory. There's no"}, {"start": "04:18:08", "end": "04:18:11", "text": "archaeologist that even that even"}, {"start": "04:18:10", "end": "04:18:13", "text": "slightly agree with the Minoan Atlantis"}, {"start": "04:18:11", "end": "04:18:15", "text": "theory. Well, I mean, I say slightly"}, {"start": "04:18:13", "end": "04:18:16", "text": "agree. I It's less common now. It used"}, {"start": "04:18:15", "end": "04:18:18", "text": "to be more common."}, {"start": "04:18:16", "end": "04:18:19", "text": "Um, Well, what are some problems with"}, {"start": "04:18:18", "end": "04:18:21", "text": "the theory? Well, [clears throat] let's"}, {"start": "04:18:19", "end": "04:18:22", "text": "We can do steel man, straw man. Yeah,"}, {"start": "04:18:21", "end": "04:18:23", "text": "yeah."}, {"start": "04:18:22", "end": "04:18:25", "text": "Um,"}, {"start": "04:18:23", "end": "04:18:27", "text": "Oh gosh. Um, I don't know if I can if I"}, {"start": "04:18:25", "end": "04:18:28", "text": "can come up with some on the spot. Like,"}, {"start": "04:18:27", "end": "04:18:30", "text": "okay. Well, okay. Well, one of one of"}, {"start": "04:18:28", "end": "04:18:32", "text": ">> Pillars of Hercules? Um,"}, {"start": "04:18:30", "end": "04:18:34", "text": ">> Yeah. Okay. Pillars of Hercules,"}, {"start": "04:18:32", "end": "04:18:36", "text": "elephants, the type of stones that are"}, {"start": "04:18:34", "end": "04:18:38", "text": "there, this that and the other. Um,"}, {"start": "04:18:36", "end": "04:18:40", "text": "Elephants we can solve."}, {"start": "04:18:38", "end": "04:18:41", "text": "How so? Because there are dwarf"}, {"start": "04:18:40", "end": "04:18:42", "text": "elephants found on Crete."}, {"start": "04:18:41", "end": "04:18:43", "text": ">> Ooh, I can't let you know that. I was"}, {"start": "04:18:42", "end": "04:18:44", "text": "going to I was going to see if that's"}, {"start": "04:18:43", "end": "04:18:46", "text": "what you're going to say. Yeah, there"}, {"start": "04:18:44", "end": "04:18:48", "text": "are. Yeah, they are. The Pillars of"}, {"start": "04:18:46", "end": "04:18:49", "text": "Hercules bother me, though. I can't"}, {"start": "04:18:48", "end": "04:18:52", "text": "square it."}, {"start": "04:18:49", "end": "04:18:53", "text": "Yeah, I know. I agree. I agree. Um"}, {"start": "04:18:52", "end": "04:18:55", "text": "it's"}, {"start": "04:18:53", "end": "04:18:58", "text": "when he describes the location of it,"}, {"start": "04:18:55", "end": "04:19:00", "text": "it's it's not describing a location"}, {"start": "04:18:58", "end": "04:19:04", "text": "that's in that's in the Greek Isles."}, {"start": "04:19:00", "end": "04:19:07", "text": "One of the ways that I try or attempt to"}, {"start": "04:19:04", "end": "04:19:09", "text": "rationalize that is um"}, {"start": "04:19:07", "end": "04:19:12", "text": "is that the Greeks are"}, {"start": "04:19:09", "end": "04:19:13", "text": "are pretty bad historians and um and"}, {"start": "04:19:12", "end": "04:19:16", "text": "they're not very good at telling their"}, {"start": "04:19:13", "end": "04:19:20", "text": "history, especially even something that,"}, {"start": "04:19:16", "end": "04:19:21", "text": "you know, Plato's living in 400 BC"}, {"start": "04:19:20", "end": "04:19:23", "text": "um"}, {"start": "04:19:21", "end": "04:19:26", "text": "and and and, you know, between 400 and"}, {"start": "04:19:23", "end": "04:19:28", "text": "350 BC and he's talking about something"}, {"start": "04:19:26", "end": "04:19:30", "text": "that Solon went and did"}, {"start": "04:19:28", "end": "04:19:31", "text": "over 200 years ago or around 200 years"}, {"start": "04:19:30", "end": "04:19:32", "text": "ago."}, {"start": "04:19:31", "end": "04:19:34", "text": "I don't know, you know, man. I don't"}, {"start": "04:19:32", "end": "04:19:36", "text": "know if I It's funny like in our"}, {"start": "04:19:34", "end": "04:19:39", "text": "modern-day culture, we hold Plato and"}, {"start": "04:19:36", "end": "04:19:42", "text": "Solon's word as being biblical, but it's"}, {"start": "04:19:39", "end": "04:19:43", "text": "like, okay, let's let's be real. Like"}, {"start": "04:19:42", "end": "04:19:45", "text": "they could just be wrong, you know?"}, {"start": "04:19:43", "end": "04:19:47", "text": "That's Yeah, Plato enjoyed a metaphor."}, {"start": "04:19:45", "end": "04:19:49", "text": "Exactly, exactly. And um"}, {"start": "04:19:47", "end": "04:19:52", "text": "in Plato's"}, {"start": "04:19:49", "end": "04:19:54", "text": "his whole"}, {"start": "04:19:52", "end": "04:19:56", "text": "everything that he did was putting words"}, {"start": "04:19:54", "end": "04:19:57", "text": "in other people's mouths and playing"}, {"start": "04:19:56", "end": "04:19:59", "text": "metaphors, right?"}, {"start": "04:19:57", "end": "04:19:59", "text": ">> Literally in the dialogues is what he"}, {"start": "04:19:59", "end": "04:20:02", "text": "does."}, {"start": "04:19:59", "end": "04:20:04", "text": ">> That's literally what he does. And so,"}, {"start": "04:20:02", "end": "04:20:06", "text": "um if some of those little facts are"}, {"start": "04:20:04", "end": "04:20:08", "text": "wrong or he just pulls it out of his ass"}, {"start": "04:20:06", "end": "04:20:10", "text": "because it's more important for him to"}, {"start": "04:20:08", "end": "04:20:12", "text": "get the point across, you know?"}, {"start": "04:20:10", "end": "04:20:14", "text": "We we we we"}, {"start": "04:20:12", "end": "04:20:16", "text": "we tie Plato just right now in this blip"}, {"start": "04:20:14", "end": "04:20:17", "text": "in our time, we tie Plato and Atlantis"}, {"start": "04:20:16", "end": "04:20:20", "text": "together because that's what's important"}, {"start": "04:20:17", "end": "04:20:21", "text": "to us. But if we were talking to Plato,"}, {"start": "04:20:20", "end": "04:20:23", "text": "Plato might go"}, {"start": "04:20:21", "end": "04:20:25", "text": "Plato might look at the last 2,000 years"}, {"start": "04:20:23", "end": "04:20:27", "text": "or everybody right now obsessing over"}, {"start": "04:20:25", "end": "04:20:29", "text": "him with Atlantis and be like"}, {"start": "04:20:27", "end": "04:20:31", "text": "guys, that's"}, {"start": "04:20:29", "end": "04:20:33", "text": "No, I was I was talking about I was I"}, {"start": "04:20:31", "end": "04:20:36", "text": "was talking about, you know, this"}, {"start": "04:20:33", "end": "04:20:37", "text": "phenomena of of ancient civilizations"}, {"start": "04:20:36", "end": "04:20:39", "text": "that"}, {"start": "04:20:37", "end": "04:20:41", "text": "that"}, {"start": "04:20:39", "end": "04:20:43", "text": "rose and fell in our time, you know, in"}, {"start": "04:20:41", "end": "04:20:44", "text": "in our civilization."}, {"start": "04:20:43", "end": "04:20:45", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "04:20:44", "end": "04:20:47", "text": "And I'm And I'm talking about the"}, {"start": "04:20:45", "end": "04:20:49", "text": "symptoms of those civilizations and what"}, {"start": "04:20:47", "end": "04:20:50", "text": "destroyed them. And like, why are you"}, {"start": "04:20:49", "end": "04:20:51", "text": "ignoring that?"}, {"start": "04:20:50", "end": "04:20:53", "text": "I think you're right."}, {"start": "04:20:51", "end": "04:20:54", "text": ">> That's probably That's probably might be"}, {"start": "04:20:53", "end": "04:20:55", "text": "what he would what he think. You know,"}, {"start": "04:20:54", "end": "04:20:57", "text": "the other thing that I think is pretty"}, {"start": "04:20:55", "end": "04:20:59", "text": "funny, um"}, {"start": "04:20:57", "end": "04:21:01", "text": "is that the the whole"}, {"start": "04:20:59", "end": "04:21:03", "text": "allegory, even if even if he is really"}, {"start": "04:21:01", "end": "04:21:06", "text": "drawing on something important, he is"}, {"start": "04:21:03", "end": "04:21:08", "text": "telling an allegory that is all about uh"}, {"start": "04:21:06", "end": "04:21:12", "text": "the the consequences of greed. And what"}, {"start": "04:21:08", "end": "04:21:14", "text": "I think is so funny is that there's"}, {"start": "04:21:12", "end": "04:21:17", "text": "probably"}, {"start": "04:21:14", "end": "04:21:21", "text": "I I It's just ironic that, um you know,"}, {"start": "04:21:17", "end": "04:21:23", "text": "people run with the story of Atlantis"}, {"start": "04:21:21", "end": "04:21:26", "text": "just to make money sometimes and ignore"}, {"start": "04:21:23", "end": "04:21:28", "text": "like all the actual evidence,"}, {"start": "04:21:26", "end": "04:21:30", "text": "ignore, you know, empirical review or"}, {"start": "04:21:28", "end": "04:21:32", "text": "whatever whatever whatever."}, {"start": "04:21:30", "end": "04:21:34", "text": "And it's like exactly the opposite of"}, {"start": "04:21:32", "end": "04:21:36", "text": "the of why Plato even brought the story"}, {"start": "04:21:34", "end": "04:21:39", "text": "up to begin with, you know, so. It's"}, {"start": "04:21:36", "end": "04:21:40", "text": "almost irony. It It is It is ironic, um"}, {"start": "04:21:39", "end": "04:21:42", "text": "but"}, {"start": "04:21:40", "end": "04:21:43", "text": "uh but it actually just proves Plato"}, {"start": "04:21:42", "end": "04:21:45", "text": "right. What do you think about the idea"}, {"start": "04:21:43", "end": "04:21:47", "text": "that the Trojan War,"}, {"start": "04:21:45", "end": "04:21:49", "text": "Iliad, Odyssey,"}, {"start": "04:21:47", "end": "04:21:50", "text": "Aeneid [snorts] is all really part of"}, {"start": "04:21:49", "end": "04:21:53", "text": "the same"}, {"start": "04:21:50", "end": "04:21:54", "text": "point in history, 10-20 years, the fall"}, {"start": "04:21:53", "end": "04:21:56", "text": "of the Bronze Age."}, {"start": "04:21:54", "end": "04:22:00", "text": "It's all"}, {"start": "04:21:56", "end": "04:22:00", "text": "part of one big story and the eruption."}, {"start": "04:22:00", "end": "04:22:04", "text": "The"}, {"start": "04:22:02", "end": "04:22:06", "text": "Uh what now Go into that a little bit."}, {"start": "04:22:04", "end": "04:22:08", "text": "Where um"}, {"start": "04:22:06", "end": "04:22:09", "text": "we have documentation now from the"}, {"start": "04:22:08", "end": "04:22:11", "text": "Hittites of the Trojan War, but it"}, {"start": "04:22:09", "end": "04:22:13", "text": "wasn't like a big thing to them. It was"}, {"start": "04:22:11", "end": "04:22:15", "text": "a diplomatic situation. They got a"}, {"start": "04:22:13", "end": "04:22:17", "text": "treaty. But then there's another war"}, {"start": "04:22:15", "end": "04:22:19", "text": "Mhm. with Troy 10-20 years later. I I"}, {"start": "04:22:17", "end": "04:22:20", "text": "think they're just discovering within"}, {"start": "04:22:19", "end": "04:22:21", "text": "the last few years another layer"}, {"start": "04:22:20", "end": "04:22:23", "text": "underneath."}, {"start": "04:22:21", "end": "04:22:25", "text": ">> There's there's I think it's Troy 6 and"}, {"start": "04:22:23", "end": "04:22:26", "text": "7 or Troy 7 and 8. It's something like"}, {"start": "04:22:25", "end": "04:22:28", "text": "that."}, {"start": "04:22:26", "end": "04:22:31", "text": ">> much It's much bigger. Not necessarily"}, {"start": "04:22:28", "end": "04:22:33", "text": "more populous, but bigger city."}, {"start": "04:22:31", "end": "04:22:35", "text": "And so, we've got all these stories"}, {"start": "04:22:33", "end": "04:22:37", "text": "coming around the same time. I mean,"}, {"start": "04:22:35", "end": "04:22:37", "text": "Iliad, Odyssey happens right after the"}, {"start": "04:22:37", "end": "04:22:39", "text": "Iliad, right?"}, {"start": "04:22:37", "end": "04:22:41", "text": ">> Mhm. Yeah. and the Aeneid essentially is"}, {"start": "04:22:39", "end": "04:22:42", "text": "right after the Iliad. It's all one"}, {"start": "04:22:41", "end": "04:22:44", "text": ">> to be, yeah."}, {"start": "04:22:42", "end": "04:22:47", "text": ">> supposed to be one long story."}, {"start": "04:22:44", "end": "04:22:50", "text": "And uh all centered around basically"}, {"start": "04:22:47", "end": "04:22:52", "text": "it's the story of the collapse of"}, {"start": "04:22:50", "end": "04:22:54", "text": "everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,"}, {"start": "04:22:52", "end": "04:22:56", "text": "yeah. It's their It's their way of"}, {"start": "04:22:54", "end": "04:22:57", "text": "acknowledging it. And and I It's the end"}, {"start": "04:22:56", "end": "04:22:58", "text": "of the world."}, {"start": "04:22:57", "end": "04:23:00", "text": ">> Yeah, I think that that's so"}, {"start": "04:22:58", "end": "04:23:02", "text": "interesting. I'll tell you, I really"}, {"start": "04:23:00", "end": "04:23:04", "text": "think it's fascinating when you get into"}, {"start": "04:23:02", "end": "04:23:06", "text": "the Aeneid, too. That's something so"}, {"start": "04:23:04", "end": "04:23:08", "text": "I haven't really got talking about it."}, {"start": "04:23:06", "end": "04:23:10", "text": "I've done a lot on the Olmecs. Doing"}, {"start": "04:23:08", "end": "04:23:12", "text": "some on the Minoans. I'm going to do"}, {"start": "04:23:10", "end": "04:23:14", "text": "more on it. Um but the next thing I want"}, {"start": "04:23:12", "end": "04:23:15", "text": "to get into is the Etruscans and and"}, {"start": "04:23:14", "end": "04:23:17", "text": "early Rome because that's it. The"}, {"start": "04:23:15", "end": "04:23:18", "text": "Etruscans are another overlooked"}, {"start": "04:23:17", "end": "04:23:21", "text": "civilization."}, {"start": "04:23:18", "end": "04:23:23", "text": ">> And we we don't know if the Aeneid"}, {"start": "04:23:21", "end": "04:23:25", "text": "really comes from the Romans or if it"}, {"start": "04:23:23", "end": "04:23:27", "text": "comes from the Etruscans or if it's some"}, {"start": "04:23:25", "end": "04:23:28", "text": "other early Italians, you know, we don't"}, {"start": "04:23:27", "end": "04:23:29", "text": "we don't really know where that comes"}, {"start": "04:23:28", "end": "04:23:31", "text": "from."}, {"start": "04:23:29", "end": "04:23:34", "text": "Is Is it likely that there was a guy"}, {"start": "04:23:31", "end": "04:23:35", "text": "named Aeneas uh that that really escaped"}, {"start": "04:23:34", "end": "04:23:37", "text": "Troy and went and established Italy."}, {"start": "04:23:35", "end": "04:23:40", "text": "It's possible, but it could be more"}, {"start": "04:23:37", "end": "04:23:41", "text": "likely that there were Italians that"}, {"start": "04:23:40", "end": "04:23:43", "text": "were"}, {"start": "04:23:41", "end": "04:23:45", "text": "that were living in that area of the"}, {"start": "04:23:43", "end": "04:23:47", "text": "world at the time and when all that"}, {"start": "04:23:45", "end": "04:23:48", "text": "collapsed, they had to come back to"}, {"start": "04:23:47", "end": "04:23:51", "text": "Italy and restart, you know, who knows?"}, {"start": "04:23:48", "end": "04:23:54", "text": "Or or that they were a people that were"}, {"start": "04:23:51", "end": "04:23:56", "text": "cast out of that Bronze Age world that"}, {"start": "04:23:54", "end": "04:23:58", "text": "came as refugees to Italy. That was a"}, {"start": "04:23:56", "end": "04:24:00", "text": "common thing, like refugees getting sent"}, {"start": "04:23:58", "end": "04:24:02", "text": "from one place to the other. And I I"}, {"start": "04:24:00", "end": "04:24:03", "text": "think you're right in that it is their"}, {"start": "04:24:02", "end": "04:24:06", "text": "way of"}, {"start": "04:24:03", "end": "04:24:08", "text": "acknowledging and telling a story of"}, {"start": "04:24:06", "end": "04:24:10", "text": "where they came from."}, {"start": "04:24:08", "end": "04:24:12", "text": "And probably the core of that story is"}, {"start": "04:24:10", "end": "04:24:14", "text": "true. The spine of the of the story is"}, {"start": "04:24:12", "end": "04:24:15", "text": "true. And all of the ribs that come off"}, {"start": "04:24:14", "end": "04:24:18", "text": "of it are, you know, they maybe didn't"}, {"start": "04:24:15", "end": "04:24:20", "text": "happen, but it's created to tell"}, {"start": "04:24:18", "end": "04:24:21", "text": "a story and and the point of the story"}, {"start": "04:24:20", "end": "04:24:23", "text": "is more important than the actual"}, {"start": "04:24:21", "end": "04:24:25", "text": "historical accuracy of the story itself."}, {"start": "04:24:23", "end": "04:24:27", "text": "But I agree with you that it it's a way"}, {"start": "04:24:25", "end": "04:24:28", "text": "for the Iliad and the Odyssey are a way"}, {"start": "04:24:27", "end": "04:24:30", "text": "for the Greeks to acknowledge what"}, {"start": "04:24:28", "end": "04:24:31", "text": "happened to them. That collapse of the"}, {"start": "04:24:30", "end": "04:24:31", "text": "whole world."}, {"start": "04:24:31", "end": "04:24:33", "text": ">> Everything, right?"}, {"start": "04:24:31", "end": "04:24:35", "text": ">> Yeah, it's not just about the"}, {"start": "04:24:33", "end": "04:24:37", "text": "significance. You're right. Yeah, the"}, {"start": "04:24:35", "end": "04:24:39", "text": "significance is not just about the story"}, {"start": "04:24:37", "end": "04:24:42", "text": "itself."}, {"start": "04:24:39", "end": "04:24:44", "text": "It's about how everything fell apart and"}, {"start": "04:24:42", "end": "04:24:45", "text": "the Greeks ended up where they were"}, {"start": "04:24:44", "end": "04:24:47", "text": "at that point in time where they're just"}, {"start": "04:24:45", "end": "04:24:49", "text": "like"}, {"start": "04:24:47", "end": "04:24:50", "text": "just farmers, you know, they they lost"}, {"start": "04:24:49", "end": "04:24:53", "text": "all their power, they lost this whole"}, {"start": "04:24:50", "end": "04:24:54", "text": "magnificent world and and that's this"}, {"start": "04:24:53", "end": "04:24:57", "text": "thing that ties them back to this early"}, {"start": "04:24:54", "end": "04:24:59", "text": "time and uh and I think the Aeneid is"}, {"start": "04:24:57", "end": "04:25:01", "text": "the same thing. It's a way to"}, {"start": "04:24:59", "end": "04:25:03", "text": "tie the people living in the classical"}, {"start": "04:25:01", "end": "04:25:05", "text": "area to the Bronze Age and acknowledge"}, {"start": "04:25:03", "end": "04:25:07", "text": "the collapse of just the whole world"}, {"start": "04:25:05", "end": "04:25:09", "text": "itself. And it's amazing that the"}, {"start": "04:25:07", "end": "04:25:11", "text": "Egyptians were able to escape that, you"}, {"start": "04:25:09", "end": "04:25:14", "text": "know, and I think it's Ramses the Third"}, {"start": "04:25:11", "end": "04:25:15", "text": "that uh he says he says that he repelled"}, {"start": "04:25:14", "end": "04:25:18", "text": "the Sea People, he drove them out. And"}, {"start": "04:25:15", "end": "04:25:20", "text": "Egypt survived. And that I mean, can you"}, {"start": "04:25:18", "end": "04:25:22", "text": "imagine"}, {"start": "04:25:20", "end": "04:25:24", "text": "what the Greeks and other Bronze Age"}, {"start": "04:25:22", "end": "04:25:25", "text": "people thought when they go to Egypt and"}, {"start": "04:25:24", "end": "04:25:27", "text": "they're like they're like these guys"}, {"start": "04:25:25", "end": "04:25:29", "text": "survived the end of the world. They were"}, {"start": "04:25:27", "end": "04:25:31", "text": "around way before everybody else was and"}, {"start": "04:25:29", "end": "04:25:32", "text": "they still survived all of it. And you"}, {"start": "04:25:31", "end": "04:25:35", "text": "know, that really comes from that really"}, {"start": "04:25:32", "end": "04:25:37", "text": "comes from the Egyptians being um"}, {"start": "04:25:35", "end": "04:25:39", "text": "the most conservative civilization in"}, {"start": "04:25:37", "end": "04:25:41", "text": "human history. They don't change. They"}, {"start": "04:25:39", "end": "04:25:44", "text": "don't change the rules."}, {"start": "04:25:41", "end": "04:25:46", "text": "Art itself in Egypt didn't evolve. It it"}, {"start": "04:25:44", "end": "04:25:48", "text": "mean it changed and and and they made"}, {"start": "04:25:46", "end": "04:25:50", "text": "new forms of it, but the but the the art"}, {"start": "04:25:48", "end": "04:25:52", "text": "itself was actually an expression of"}, {"start": "04:25:50", "end": "04:25:54", "text": "eternity, an expression of divinity"}, {"start": "04:25:52", "end": "04:25:55", "text": "itself."}, {"start": "04:25:54", "end": "04:25:58", "text": "And that depiction [snorts] of the"}, {"start": "04:25:55", "end": "04:26:01", "text": "pharaoh smiting his enemy began in 3100"}, {"start": "04:25:58", "end": "04:26:02", "text": "BC and never ended throughout all of"}, {"start": "04:26:01", "end": "04:26:04", "text": "Egyptian history. Even the Ptolemies"}, {"start": "04:26:02", "end": "04:26:07", "text": "present themselves that way. It was so"}, {"start": "04:26:04", "end": "04:26:09", "text": "important and vital and crucial"}, {"start": "04:26:07", "end": "04:26:11", "text": "to the success of the Egyptian world"}, {"start": "04:26:09", "end": "04:26:13", "text": "that everything stayed the same forever"}, {"start": "04:26:11", "end": "04:26:15", "text": "and they never changed. So, they were"}, {"start": "04:26:13", "end": "04:26:18", "text": "they were as defensive and aggressive as"}, {"start": "04:26:15", "end": "04:26:20", "text": "they needed to be. Um they really"}, {"start": "04:26:18", "end": "04:26:22", "text": "controlled like their immigration. I"}, {"start": "04:26:20", "end": "04:26:24", "text": "mean, they they kept the they kept the"}, {"start": "04:26:22", "end": "04:26:25", "text": "percentages of Egyptians like just"}, {"start": "04:26:24", "end": "04:26:27", "text": "right. Like everything was just right"}, {"start": "04:26:25", "end": "04:26:29", "text": "from the very beginning and they never"}, {"start": "04:26:27", "end": "04:26:31", "text": "changed any of it because they saw other"}, {"start": "04:26:29", "end": "04:26:32", "text": "cultures around them evolving and"}, {"start": "04:26:31", "end": "04:26:33", "text": "changing over time, and they would"}, {"start": "04:26:32", "end": "04:26:35", "text": "collapse. These people would change over"}, {"start": "04:26:33", "end": "04:26:37", "text": "time, and they would collapse. Egyptians"}, {"start": "04:26:35", "end": "04:26:41", "text": "never changed, and then"}, {"start": "04:26:37", "end": "04:26:43", "text": "the it it it's a long, slow grind to a"}, {"start": "04:26:41", "end": "04:26:45", "text": "halt for the Egyptians. And, you know,"}, {"start": "04:26:43", "end": "04:26:48", "text": "that's why people looked at them as like"}, {"start": "04:26:45", "end": "04:26:49", "text": "just these giants that loomed over the"}, {"start": "04:26:48", "end": "04:26:51", "text": "ancient world. It's It's really amazing,"}, {"start": "04:26:49", "end": "04:26:52", "text": "man. You know, that's the that's the"}, {"start": "04:26:51", "end": "04:26:53", "text": "thing is when you were talking about"}, {"start": "04:26:52", "end": "04:26:54", "text": "when you said earlier when we were"}, {"start": "04:26:53", "end": "04:26:55", "text": "talking about"}, {"start": "04:26:54", "end": "04:26:56", "text": "the Olmecs, and and you were saying, \"I"}, {"start": "04:26:55", "end": "04:26:59", "text": "really don't think people understand"}, {"start": "04:26:56", "end": "04:27:02", "text": "this these vast periods of time.\""}, {"start": "04:26:59", "end": "04:27:06", "text": "The longer you spend"}, {"start": "04:27:02", "end": "04:27:08", "text": "in the ancient world playing around with"}, {"start": "04:27:06", "end": "04:27:10", "text": "If if you spent anybody or anybody"}, {"start": "04:27:08", "end": "04:27:13", "text": "watching, if you spend a year intensely"}, {"start": "04:27:10", "end": "04:27:14", "text": "studying all the events that happened"}, {"start": "04:27:13", "end": "04:27:17", "text": "let's say between the Bronze Age"}, {"start": "04:27:14", "end": "04:27:19", "text": "Collapse and like the beginning of of"}, {"start": "04:27:17", "end": "04:27:21", "text": "civilization"}, {"start": "04:27:19", "end": "04:27:22", "text": "yeah, as we acknowledge it around 3100"}, {"start": "04:27:21", "end": "04:27:23", "text": "BC, when all these cultures really pop"}, {"start": "04:27:22", "end": "04:27:26", "text": "off,"}, {"start": "04:27:23", "end": "04:27:28", "text": "you will realize how long 2,000 years"}, {"start": "04:27:26", "end": "04:27:30", "text": "is. You'll have a new-found respect for"}, {"start": "04:27:28", "end": "04:27:31", "text": "it because we spend so much time"}, {"start": "04:27:30", "end": "04:27:32", "text": "thinking about like, \"What happened"}, {"start": "04:27:31", "end": "04:27:35", "text": "12,000 years ago?\" When you think about"}, {"start": "04:27:32", "end": "04:27:37", "text": "5 or 6,000 years ago, you're like, \"Ah,"}, {"start": "04:27:35", "end": "04:27:39", "text": "it's not really that You If you really"}, {"start": "04:27:37", "end": "04:27:41", "text": "get into studying it, you'll realize,"}, {"start": "04:27:39", "end": "04:27:43", "text": "\"Oh my god, that's a long time ago.\""}, {"start": "04:27:41", "end": "04:27:45", "text": "because you'll you'll have a new-found"}, {"start": "04:27:43", "end": "04:27:48", "text": "appreciation for how long a thousand"}, {"start": "04:27:45", "end": "04:27:50", "text": "years is, you know. A a a person who"}, {"start": "04:27:48", "end": "04:27:52", "text": "grew up as an Olmec, those heads had"}, {"start": "04:27:50", "end": "04:27:54", "text": "been there forever. Their grandfather's,"}, {"start": "04:27:52", "end": "04:27:55", "text": "grandfather's, grandfather's knew they"}, {"start": "04:27:54", "end": "04:27:56", "text": "were there forever, and as far as I"}, {"start": "04:27:55", "end": "04:27:58", "text": "know, always would be."}, {"start": "04:27:56", "end": "04:28:00", "text": ">> Yeah. It's that long of a time. What are"}, {"start": "04:27:58", "end": "04:28:00", "text": "you working on now before I let you go?"}, {"start": "04:28:00", "end": "04:28:03", "text": ">> [snorts]"}, {"start": "04:28:00", "end": "04:28:04", "text": ">> Yeah, so so we got those LiDAR projects"}, {"start": "04:28:03", "end": "04:28:06", "text": "we spent some time talking about, just"}, {"start": "04:28:04", "end": "04:28:08", "text": "going over it. It's we got this LiDAR"}, {"start": "04:28:06", "end": "04:28:10", "text": "project working with Basecamp, Terra"}, {"start": "04:28:08", "end": "04:28:13", "text": "Terra Incognita Research Institute. We"}, {"start": "04:28:10", "end": "04:28:15", "text": "want to We want to perform the biggest"}, {"start": "04:28:13", "end": "04:28:17", "text": "LiDAR scan ever done in the Amazon."}, {"start": "04:28:15", "end": "04:28:19", "text": "Should we join your Patreon and support"}, {"start": "04:28:17", "end": "04:28:20", "text": "your work? No, I don't I don't have"}, {"start": "04:28:19", "end": "04:28:21", "text": "anything like that live yet. But, if"}, {"start": "04:28:20", "end": "04:28:23", "text": "people want to learn more about it, they"}, {"start": "04:28:21", "end": "04:28:25", "text": "can go to Terra Terra Incognita Research"}, {"start": "04:28:23", "end": "04:28:26", "text": "Institute. Uh"}, {"start": "04:28:25", "end": "04:28:27", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "04:28:26", "end": "04:28:29", "text": "I'll By the time this comes out, I'll"}, {"start": "04:28:27", "end": "04:28:30", "text": "have it linked somewhere on on my social"}, {"start": "04:28:29", "end": "04:28:31", "text": "media or on my YouTube or somewhere"}, {"start": "04:28:30", "end": "04:28:33", "text": "people can go check out. They can donate"}, {"start": "04:28:31", "end": "04:28:35", "text": "if they want, but I think the biggest"}, {"start": "04:28:33", "end": "04:28:37", "text": "thing is just being aware and and"}, {"start": "04:28:35", "end": "04:28:38", "text": "supporting when we, you know, do put out"}, {"start": "04:28:37", "end": "04:28:40", "text": "uh you know, calls for people to be able"}, {"start": "04:28:38", "end": "04:28:41", "text": "to help or put out videos or something"}, {"start": "04:28:40", "end": "04:28:42", "text": "like that. So, we're doing that in the"}, {"start": "04:28:41", "end": "04:28:44", "text": "Amazon."}, {"start": "04:28:42", "end": "04:28:46", "text": "And then uh I'm working with Basecamp."}, {"start": "04:28:44", "end": "04:28:48", "text": "We're uh scanning a bunch of sites in"}, {"start": "04:28:46", "end": "04:28:51", "text": "the Melon Builder world to try to"}, {"start": "04:28:48", "end": "04:28:54", "text": "recreate and revitalize civilization in"}, {"start": "04:28:51", "end": "04:28:56", "text": "the American East Coast. Um"}, {"start": "04:28:54", "end": "04:28:58", "text": "I'm working on uh"}, {"start": "04:28:56", "end": "04:28:59", "text": "I'm working on I got two series on"}, {"start": "04:28:58", "end": "04:29:01", "text": "YouTube that I do. I do one that's the"}, {"start": "04:28:59", "end": "04:29:03", "text": "First Explorers where I take people back"}, {"start": "04:29:01", "end": "04:29:05", "text": "to like the first time that"}, {"start": "04:29:03", "end": "04:29:06", "text": "documented explorations happened in"}, {"start": "04:29:05", "end": "04:29:08", "text": "certain periods."}, {"start": "04:29:06", "end": "04:29:09", "text": ">> Your videos are great. Is Luke Caverns"}, {"start": "04:29:08", "end": "04:29:10", "text": "out yet?"}, {"start": "04:29:09", "end": "04:29:12", "text": ">> you. And so uh so I do that and then I"}, {"start": "04:29:10", "end": "04:29:15", "text": "had started this one called the called"}, {"start": "04:29:12", "end": "04:29:17", "text": "American Wilds, which is um"}, {"start": "04:29:15", "end": "04:29:20", "text": "it's like frontier history. So, it's all"}, {"start": "04:29:17", "end": "04:29:22", "text": "the weird stuff that people didn't know"}, {"start": "04:29:20", "end": "04:29:23", "text": "was going on in the Americas. Like, when"}, {"start": "04:29:22", "end": "04:29:25", "text": "Europeans first arrive in the Americas,"}, {"start": "04:29:23", "end": "04:29:27", "text": "they get a glimpse of what of what this"}, {"start": "04:29:25", "end": "04:29:29", "text": "world looked like and they write it"}, {"start": "04:29:27", "end": "04:29:31", "text": "down, and nobody is making anything"}, {"start": "04:29:29", "end": "04:29:32", "text": "about them. So, the So, episode one was"}, {"start": "04:29:31", "end": "04:29:34", "text": "me"}, {"start": "04:29:32", "end": "04:29:37", "text": "basically proving that jaguars were on"}, {"start": "04:29:34", "end": "04:29:39", "text": "the East Coast. Uh this next one I'm uh"}, {"start": "04:29:37", "end": "04:29:41", "text": "I'm doing one right now on uh this lost"}, {"start": "04:29:39", "end": "04:29:42", "text": "colony of Magellan that was found in"}, {"start": "04:29:41", "end": "04:29:45", "text": "Chile. Uh so, that that's kind of what"}, {"start": "04:29:42", "end": "04:29:48", "text": "I'm working on and then um"}, {"start": "04:29:45", "end": "04:29:50", "text": "Yeah, I got a um later this year, I I've"}, {"start": "04:29:48", "end": "04:29:51", "text": "been teasing this book called uh Olmec"}, {"start": "04:29:50", "end": "04:29:53", "text": "Enigma that I'm going to write, but"}, {"start": "04:29:51", "end": "04:29:55", "text": "actually"}, {"start": "04:29:53", "end": "04:29:59", "text": "I think that my time is better spent"}, {"start": "04:29:55", "end": "04:30:00", "text": "making uh virtual lecture series. So,"}, {"start": "04:29:59", "end": "04:30:02", "text": "it's going to be like a rather So, the"}, {"start": "04:30:00", "end": "04:30:03", "text": "chapters of the books, you know, it's"}, {"start": "04:30:02", "end": "04:30:05", "text": "going to be 10 chapters long. They're"}, {"start": "04:30:03", "end": "04:30:09", "text": "actually going to be"}, {"start": "04:30:05", "end": "04:30:11", "text": "I don't know, roughly 40 to an hour long"}, {"start": "04:30:09", "end": "04:30:13", "text": "videos. And it'll be like a series that"}, {"start": "04:30:11", "end": "04:30:15", "text": "people can get in one way or another. I"}, {"start": "04:30:13", "end": "04:30:16", "text": "don't know. But that's kind of that's"}, {"start": "04:30:15", "end": "04:30:16", "text": "It's of the stuff I'm working on right"}, {"start": "04:30:16", "end": "04:30:17", "text": "now."}, {"start": "04:30:16", "end": "04:30:18", "text": ">> I love it. Yeah. Fascinating"}, {"start": "04:30:17", "end": "04:30:21", "text": "conversation. Hopefully the first of"}, {"start": "04:30:18", "end": "04:30:23", "text": "many. And I think that LiDAR is uh I"}, {"start": "04:30:21", "end": "04:30:25", "text": "think LiDAR is the future of uh of"}, {"start": "04:30:23", "end": "04:30:26", "text": "outlaw archaeology, archaeology in"}, {"start": "04:30:25", "end": "04:30:28", "text": "general. Like people say the age of"}, {"start": "04:30:26", "end": "04:30:32", "text": "exploration died in the age of"}, {"start": "04:30:28", "end": "04:30:34", "text": "exploration, but man, LiDAR and GPR with"}, {"start": "04:30:32", "end": "04:30:36", "text": "um you know, it's still expensive, but"}, {"start": "04:30:34", "end": "04:30:38", "text": "I'm just so lucky I'm able that I'm able"}, {"start": "04:30:36", "end": "04:30:40", "text": "to work with these guys and uh they do a"}, {"start": "04:30:38", "end": "04:30:43", "text": "freaking crazy job. Maybe you can come"}, {"start": "04:30:40", "end": "04:30:46", "text": "back and we can go through some images."}, {"start": "04:30:43", "end": "04:30:49", "text": "Well, yeah, man. If uh we want to do"}, {"start": "04:30:46", "end": "04:30:50", "text": "this LiDAR project later this year, I"}, {"start": "04:30:49", "end": "04:30:51", "text": "it's"}, {"start": "04:30:50", "end": "04:30:52", "text": "there's going to be some amazing stuff"}, {"start": "04:30:51", "end": "04:30:54", "text": "that that comes out of that. Um"}, {"start": "04:30:52", "end": "04:30:55", "text": "especially here in the Mound Builder"}, {"start": "04:30:54", "end": "04:30:56", "text": "world, too. I know you have a big"}, {"start": "04:30:55", "end": "04:30:57", "text": "respect for the Mound Builder people,"}, {"start": "04:30:56", "end": "04:31:00", "text": "which is"}, {"start": "04:30:57", "end": "04:31:01", "text": "uh which is key, man. There's so many"}, {"start": "04:31:00", "end": "04:31:03", "text": "people overlook them cuz they think the"}, {"start": "04:31:01", "end": "04:31:05", "text": "mounds aren't impressive cuz they're"}, {"start": "04:31:03", "end": "04:31:08", "text": "hills of dirt. Dude, there's so much"}, {"start": "04:31:05", "end": "04:31:10", "text": "more going on in uh the Mississippian"}, {"start": "04:31:08", "end": "04:31:11", "text": "world than people realize. So, dude, we"}, {"start": "04:31:10", "end": "04:31:13", "text": "should definitely do uh we should"}, {"start": "04:31:11", "end": "04:31:14", "text": "definitely do some LiDAR stuff in the"}, {"start": "04:31:13", "end": "04:31:15", "text": "future. We're going to do it. Luke"}, {"start": "04:31:14", "end": "04:31:18", "text": "Caverns, everybody."}, {"start": "04:31:15", "end": "04:31:20", "text": "Thanks, brother. Thanks, man."}, {"start": "04:31:18", "end": "04:31:22", "text": "That was Luke Caverns. We covered the"}, {"start": "04:31:20", "end": "04:31:23", "text": "Olmecs, the Minoans, Alexander the"}, {"start": "04:31:22", "end": "04:31:25", "text": "Great, and what LiDAR is finding"}, {"start": "04:31:23", "end": "04:31:28", "text": "underneath the Amazon. Let's break it"}, {"start": "04:31:25", "end": "04:31:30", "text": "down. Here's what checks out. The LiDAR"}, {"start": "04:31:28", "end": "04:31:32", "text": "discoveries are real. Published"}, {"start": "04:31:30", "end": "04:31:32", "text": "archaeological surveys"}, {"start": "04:31:32", "end": "04:31:34", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "04:31:32", "end": "04:31:36", "text": ">> have confirmed pre-Columbian cities in"}, {"start": "04:31:34", "end": "04:31:39", "text": "the Amazon. We're talking geometric"}, {"start": "04:31:36", "end": "04:31:41", "text": "monoliths, superhighways, settlements"}, {"start": "04:31:39", "end": "04:31:43", "text": "far larger than anything anyone thought"}, {"start": "04:31:41", "end": "04:31:46", "text": "possible. It is there. The LiDAR is"}, {"start": "04:31:43", "end": "04:31:47", "text": "finding it. The The Minoan facts are"}, {"start": "04:31:46", "end": "04:31:50", "text": "solid. There's no debate about that."}, {"start": "04:31:47", "end": "04:31:51", "text": "Their script, Linear A, their writing,"}, {"start": "04:31:50", "end": "04:31:52", "text": "still hasn't been deciphered. We don't"}, {"start": "04:31:51", "end": "04:31:53", "text": "even know what they called themselves."}, {"start": "04:31:52", "end": "04:31:54", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "04:31:53", "end": "04:31:56", "text": ">> Now, think about this."}, {"start": "04:31:54", "end": "04:31:57", "text": "They built over 100 palaces on Crete."}, {"start": "04:31:56", "end": "04:32:00", "text": "We're talking"}, {"start": "04:31:57", "end": "04:32:03", "text": "1,000 rooms palaces. They [music]"}, {"start": "04:32:00", "end": "04:32:05", "text": "dominated the Mediterranean for 1,000"}, {"start": "04:32:03", "end": "04:32:07", "text": "years."}, {"start": "04:32:05", "end": "04:32:07", "text": "1,000 years."}, {"start": "04:32:07", "end": "04:32:08", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "04:32:07", "end": "04:32:10", "text": ">> We don't know what they called"}, {"start": "04:32:08", "end": "04:32:12", "text": "themselves."}, {"start": "04:32:10", "end": "04:32:15", "text": "Akrotiri on Santorini was the wealthiest"}, {"start": "04:32:12", "end": "04:32:17", "text": "city on Earth before the eruption. Zero"}, {"start": "04:32:15", "end": "04:32:18", "text": "bodies, zero valuables. They knew"}, {"start": "04:32:17", "end": "04:32:21", "text": "something was coming."}, {"start": "04:32:18", "end": "04:32:22", "text": "But, where did they go?"}, {"start": "04:32:21", "end": "04:32:24", "text": "I love that story. [music]"}, {"start": "04:32:22", "end": "04:32:27", "text": "Ectodermal dysplasia is a real condition"}, {"start": "04:32:24", "end": "04:32:29", "text": "that causes fang-like teeth and abnormal"}, {"start": "04:32:27", "end": "04:32:31", "text": "nail growth like claws. Luke's"}, {"start": "04:32:29", "end": "04:32:33", "text": "ware-jaguar theory that the Olmecs"}, {"start": "04:32:31", "end": "04:32:35", "text": "selectively bred people in this"}, {"start": "04:32:33", "end": "04:32:38", "text": "condition [music] as a shamanic priestly"}, {"start": "04:32:35", "end": "04:32:41", "text": "class, well, that's his original take."}, {"start": "04:32:38", "end": "04:32:44", "text": "But, the ratio is real. There are only"}, {"start": "04:32:41", "end": "04:32:47", "text": "17 Olmec heads. There are thousands"}, {"start": "04:32:44", "end": "04:32:48", "text": "[music] of stone ware-jaguars."}, {"start": "04:32:47", "end": "04:32:51", "text": "I never heard that one before. The"}, {"start": "04:32:48", "end": "04:32:53", "text": "Atlantis math, I love this, too."}, {"start": "04:32:51", "end": "04:32:55", "text": "Plato's Timaeus puts Atlantis 9,000"}, {"start": "04:32:53", "end": "04:32:58", "text": "[music] years before Solon. So, that"}, {"start": "04:32:55", "end": "04:33:01", "text": "places it at 9,600 BC. Guess what?"}, {"start": "04:32:58", "end": "04:33:03", "text": "That's the Younger Dryas. So, that date"}, {"start": "04:33:01", "end": "04:33:05", "text": "[music] matches the flood myths."}, {"start": "04:33:03", "end": "04:33:08", "text": "But, there's a theory that the Egyptian"}, {"start": "04:33:05", "end": "04:33:11", "text": "priests were telling Solon the number of"}, {"start": "04:33:08", "end": "04:33:13", "text": "lunar months, not years. Now, if that's"}, {"start": "04:33:11", "end": "04:33:16", "text": "true, 9,000 becomes 900 years before"}, {"start": "04:33:13", "end": "04:33:18", "text": "Solon, [music] about 1,500 BC. The"}, {"start": "04:33:16", "end": "04:33:21", "text": "Minoan collapse happened around 1,600"}, {"start": "04:33:18", "end": "04:33:22", "text": "BC. Scholars have made this argument in"}, {"start": "04:33:21", "end": "04:33:26", "text": "peer-reviewed journals. [music]"}, {"start": "04:33:22", "end": "04:33:28", "text": "Either date is cool. The 365 tsunami hit"}, {"start": "04:33:26", "end": "04:33:30", "text": "Alexandria. That's documented. Ships"}, {"start": "04:33:28", "end": "04:33:32", "text": "were being thrown on top of buildings."}, {"start": "04:33:30", "end": "04:33:35", "text": "It was insane. Now, whether it destroyed"}, {"start": "04:33:32", "end": "04:33:36", "text": "Alexander's tomb or not is speculation."}, {"start": "04:33:35", "end": "04:33:38", "text": "People still debate it. The mainstream,"}, {"start": "04:33:36", "end": "04:33:41", "text": "for the most part, says the tomb was"}, {"start": "04:33:38", "end": "04:33:43", "text": "lost sometime in the 4th century AD. The"}, {"start": "04:33:41", "end": "04:33:44", "text": "tsunami gives a mechanism. So, Luke is"}, {"start": "04:33:43", "end": "04:33:46", "text": "picking the most dramatic explanation"}, {"start": "04:33:44", "end": "04:33:47", "text": "from real evidence."}, {"start": "04:33:46", "end": "04:33:50", "text": "I tend to agree. What could really"}, {"start": "04:33:47", "end": "04:33:52", "text": "survive that? Luke Caverns is rebuilding"}, {"start": "04:33:50", "end": "04:33:54", "text": "lost worlds with technology that didn't"}, {"start": "04:33:52", "end": "04:33:56", "text": "exist 15 years ago. Now, whether you"}, {"start": "04:33:54", "end": "04:33:57", "text": "accept every claim or not, the sites"}, {"start": "04:33:56", "end": "04:33:59", "text": "he's flagging are going to produce"}, {"start": "04:33:57", "end": "04:34:01", "text": "papers. You can find him at"}, {"start": "04:33:59", "end": "04:34:04", "text": "youtube.com/lukecaverns."}, {"start": "04:34:01", "end": "04:34:08", "text": "Until next time, be safe, be kind, and"}, {"start": "04:34:04", "end": "04:34:08", "text": "know that you are appreciated."}, {"start": "04:34:10", "end": "04:34:12", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "04:34:16", "end": "04:34:20", "text": ">> Oh,"}, {"start": "04:34:18", "end": "04:34:20", "text": "oh, oh."}, {"start": "04:34:20", "end": "04:34:25", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "04:34:21", "end": "04:34:26", "text": ">> I played Pleiades and Area 51. A secret"}, {"start": "04:34:25", "end": "04:34:30", "text": "code inside [music]"}, {"start": "04:34:26", "end": "04:34:30", "text": "the Bible said I was."}, {"start": "04:34:30", "end": "04:34:34", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "04:34:30", "end": "04:34:36", "text": ">> I love my UFOs and paranormal"}, {"start": "04:34:34", "end": "04:34:36", "text": "fun as well as music."}, {"start": "04:34:36", "end": "04:34:40", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "04:34:36", "end": "04:34:42", "text": ">> So, I'm singing the lyrics as I should."}, {"start": "04:34:40", "end": "04:34:46", "text": "But then another conspiracy theory"}, {"start": "04:34:42", "end": "04:34:48", "text": "becomes the truth, [music] my friends."}, {"start": "04:34:46", "end": "04:34:52", "text": "And it never ends. [singing]"}, {"start": "04:34:48", "end": "04:34:52", "text": "No, it never ends."}, {"start": "04:34:54", "end": "04:34:56", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "04:34:59", "end": "04:35:04", "text": ">> I fear the crab got stuck inside my home"}, {"start": "04:35:02", "end": "04:35:08", "text": "with MK Ultra. [music]"}, {"start": "04:35:04", "end": "04:35:08", "text": "I've been awake to aware. [singing]"}, {"start": "04:35:08", "end": "04:35:13", "text": "Did Stanley Kubrick [music] fake the"}, {"start": "04:35:10", "end": "04:35:17", "text": "moon landing alone on a film set? Or"}, {"start": "04:35:13", "end": "04:35:17", "text": "were the shadow [music] people there?"}, {"start": "04:35:18", "end": "04:35:23", "text": "The Roswell aliens just fought the"}, {"start": "04:35:20", "end": "04:35:25", "text": "smiling man, [music] I'm told."}, {"start": "04:35:23", "end": "04:35:26", "text": "And his name was cold."}, {"start": "04:35:25", "end": "04:35:28", "text": ">> [singing]"}, {"start": "04:35:26", "end": "04:35:30", "text": ">> But I can't believe"}, {"start": "04:35:28", "end": "04:35:32", "text": "I'm dancing with the phantoms."}, {"start": "04:35:30", "end": "04:35:33", "text": "Dancing with the phantoms"}, {"start": "04:35:32", "end": "04:35:35", "text": "with that alien [music]"}, {"start": "04:35:33", "end": "04:35:36", "text": "and the wild wild"}, {"start": "04:35:35", "end": "04:35:38", "text": "west all"}, {"start": "04:35:36", "end": "04:35:38", "text": "through the night."}, {"start": "04:35:39", "end": "04:35:45", "text": "All I ever wanted was to just [music]"}, {"start": "04:35:42", "end": "04:35:47", "text": "keep the truth from the wild wild west"}, {"start": "04:35:45", "end": "04:35:47", "text": "all through the night."}, {"start": "04:35:48", "end": "04:35:50", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "04:36:05", "end": "04:36:09", "text": ">> The mothman sightings and the solar"}, {"start": "04:36:07", "end": "04:36:14", "text": "storms still come to [music] a god"}, {"start": "04:36:09", "end": "04:36:14", "text": "there, the secret city underground."}, {"start": "04:36:14", "end": "04:36:19", "text": "Mysterious number stations, planets are"}, {"start": "04:36:16", "end": "04:36:22", "text": "[music] purple, too. Project Stargate"}, {"start": "04:36:19", "end": "04:36:24", "text": "and what the dark watchers found."}, {"start": "04:36:22", "end": "04:36:26", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "04:36:24", "end": "04:36:28", "text": ">> We're in a simulation, don't you worry,"}, {"start": "04:36:26", "end": "04:36:31", "text": "though."}, {"start": "04:36:28", "end": "04:36:33", "text": "The black knight satellite in space."}, {"start": "04:36:31", "end": "04:36:36", "text": "So, I can't believe [music]"}, {"start": "04:36:33", "end": "04:36:38", "text": "I'm dancing with a"}, {"start": "04:36:36", "end": "04:36:39", "text": "Andromeda [music] Thursday nights with"}, {"start": "04:36:38", "end": "04:36:41", "text": "AJ,"}, {"start": "04:36:39", "end": "04:36:44", "text": "and the wobbles on the"}, {"start": "04:36:41", "end": "04:36:44", "text": "beat all through the night."}, {"start": "04:36:45", "end": "04:36:51", "text": "All I ever wanted was to just hear the"}, {"start": "04:36:48", "end": "04:36:53", "text": "truth, so the wobbles on the beat"}, {"start": "04:36:51", "end": "04:36:53", "text": "all through the night."}, {"start": "04:36:55", "end": "04:36:58", "text": "Andromeda Thursday [music]"}, {"start": "04:36:56", "end": "04:36:59", "text": "nights with AJ,"}, {"start": "04:36:58", "end": "04:37:00", "text": "and the wobbles"}, {"start": "04:36:59", "end": "04:37:03", "text": "on the beat"}, {"start": "04:37:00", "end": "04:37:03", "text": "all through the"}, {"start": "04:37:04", "end": "04:37:07", "text": "All [singing and music]"}, {"start": "04:37:05", "end": "04:37:09", "text": "I ever wanted was to just hear the"}, {"start": "04:37:07", "end": "04:37:12", "text": "truth, so the wobbles on the"}, {"start": "04:37:09", "end": "04:37:12", "text": "beat all through the night."}, {"start": "04:37:15", "end": "04:37:17", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "04:37:21", "end": "04:37:23", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "04:37:30", "end": "04:37:31", "text": ">> Time to dance more,"}, {"start": "04:37:30", "end": "04:37:33", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "04:37:31", "end": "04:37:35", "text": ">> because she is a camel,"}, {"start": "04:37:33", "end": "04:37:37", "text": "and camels love to dance"}, {"start": "04:37:35", "end": "04:37:38", "text": "when the feeling"}, {"start": "04:37:37", "end": "04:37:39", "text": "is right,"}, {"start": "04:37:38", "end": "04:37:41", "text": "no wasting"}, {"start": "04:37:39", "end": "04:37:41", "text": "time."}, {"start": "04:37:43", "end": "04:37:45", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "04:37:51", "end": "04:37:54", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "04:37:52", "end": "04:37:54", "text": "[bell]"}]

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Every living thing"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "on the entire island [music] of Akrotiri"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "was evacuated."}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "And shortly after that, the entire sky"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "over Crete just completely turned black."}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "The fourth largest volcanic eruption in"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "the history of planet Earth just erupted"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "from the core of the island of"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "Santorini. It's funny like in our"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "modern-day culture, we hold Plato and"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "Solon's word as being biblical, but it's"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "like, okay, well, let's let's be real."}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "Like it"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "it could just be wrong. Even if he is"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "really drawing on something important,"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "he is telling an allegory that is all"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "about the consequences of greed. 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[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "Let's say everything that you've talked"}, {"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "about is right and we're really are in a"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "simulation. What does that mean for"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "us as regarding free will? Does anything"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "matter?"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "Yeah. Well, sometimes people say if I'm"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "in a simulation, nothing matters. You"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "know?"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "Well, that depends on the nature of the"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "simulation."}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "If we are here to learn lessons and have"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "certain quests and achievements, then if"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "you don't make the quest, what do you"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "do? You're going to have to do it again."}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "That's [laughter] right."}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:31", "text": ">> Uh it's not like you just give up and"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "then, you know, you you you may have"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "more difficult quest afterwards. And so,"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "when we have difficult situations in our"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "lives, whether it's financial, health"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "related, relationship related, war,"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "suffering,"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "you know, we can view it as a more"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "difficult quest"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "that is part of our story line."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "Today we're sitting down with RZswan"}, {"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "Burke, MIT computer scientist, Stanford"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "MBA video game pioneer, and one of the"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "early investors in Discord."}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:13", "text": ">> Early investor in Discord, huh? Uh, so"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "he's the reason my guppies are up at"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "screaming at strangers in Fortnite. Uh,"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "I have questions for this man."}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:22", "text": ">> His book, The Simulation Hypothesis, is"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "now out in a fully revised second"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "edition. It argues that quantum physics,"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "ancient Eastern mysticism, and the"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "architecture of video games are all"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "pointing at the same unsettling truth."}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "That what we call reality may not be"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "reality at all."}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:40", "text": ">> Hang on, hang on, hang on. I say reality"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "isn't real and people call me crazy."}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "This guy says it and gets a book deal."}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:45", "text": ">> Oh, well, he lays out a better case than"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "you do."}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:48", "text": ">> Well, does he say how to listen people"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "run the simulation?"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:52", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:54", "text": ">> Would you? Today we're covering the"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "observer effect, the Mandela effect,"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "NPCs versus RPG characters, and why UFOs"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "might be avatars projected into this"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "reality from somewhere outside it. Oh,"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "and RZ got to talk to Philip K. Dick's"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "wife, Tessa."}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "She told him something about JFK that"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "stopped the show cold."}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "Let's go down to the basement."}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "Dr. Rizswan Burke, welcome to the"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "basement."}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:31", "text": ">> Thanks so much for having me here."}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:32", "text": ">> I'm excited that you're here. Um, since"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "since you're an old computer nerd like"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "myself,"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "what was your what was the baud rate of"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "the first computer you had that could"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "connect?"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:46", "text": ">> Wow, good question. Because, you know,"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "originally we had a Commodore 64."}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:50", "text": ">> Had the 64. Okay. We even had a KCO"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "Atom. I don't know if you remember this."}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:54", "text": ">> Of course, it was it was the plugin."}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:55", "text": ">> Yeah. And then there was a tape. It used"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "a tape drive."}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:57", "text": ">> That's right."}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:59", "text": ">> But then the tapes if you left them on"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "top of it, it would erase the tape."}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:02", "text": ">> That's right."}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:04", "text": ">> I think we eventually got an Apple 2 um"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "Apple 2e, I think it was, which was the"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "portable model. And I don't think we"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "really connected until, you know, much"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "later. Uh so, but it was like 2600 baud"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "modems like way back in the day."}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:21", "text": ">> Yeah. I think mine was a Vic 20"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:22", "text": ">> 1981 with 150 baud connection and the"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "cassette tape is where you loaded"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "everything."}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:26", "text": ">> Oh, right. Yeah, I remember those."}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:28", "text": ">> Can't believe it. Well, you know, I I"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "started learning to program in my math"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "class and uh I was we were living in the"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "Midwest and our math teacher allowed"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "myself and my best friend because we'd"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "finished the math problems quickly. He's"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "like, \"Okay, why don't you guys go play"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "on this TRS80?\" They used to call it a"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "trash 80. And they had an adventure"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "game, which was like, it wasn't Zork, it"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "was like the original adventure text"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "game. And I realized you could actually"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "modify the code, and you know, the"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "characters would say something different"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "than, you know, what they were supposed"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "to say. And that was my introduction"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "really to to programming. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:02:59", "text": ">> Really, that was an amazing the TRS80"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "was amazing machine. That was Radio"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "Shack invented that thing."}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:04", "text": ">> That's right. Yeah. Yeah. And then later"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "they called it a trash 80."}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:07", "text": ">> They did. But it was a good machine for"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "a long time."}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:09", "text": ">> What was the programming language on"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "that? Was it a basic?"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:12", "text": ">> It was just basic. Yeah. I mean, that's"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "how I learned to program was basic"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "there. And then one day, my dad took us"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "to his work and they had just bought"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "like an Apple 2. So before we had one at"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "home and he was like, \"Here, why don't"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "you guys, you know, my older brother is"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "like a year and a half older than me, I"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "think, kind of like you and Gino in"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "terms of age.\" He just took us in there"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "and left us. And we started to program a"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "tic-tac-toe game because we saw you"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "could draw a line. So that was the first"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "game that I ever wrote from scratch was"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "just a simple tic-tac-toe game on the"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "Apple 2 at my dad's office."}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:40", "text": ">> Apple 2. Is that basic on there as well?"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:42", "text": ">> Yeah, it was called Applesoft Basic."}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "That's right. In the end, it was"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "Microsoft Basic behind the scenes."}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:47", "text": ">> Uh which was how Microsoft started as a"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "company,"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:50", "text": ">> right? Back when they got along."}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:54", "text": ">> That's right. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:56", "text": ">> Did you go to uh Apple 2GS with color?"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:57", "text": ">> No, because I think when the by the time"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "that came out one, it was expensive."}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:01", "text": ">> Yes, it was. We could we didn't have it."}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "We go to friends houses."}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:04", "text": ">> Yeah, exactly. Like very few of our"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "friends actually had like expensive"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "computers. I mean, I'd pull it out to"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "try to type a report, you know, in high"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "school and then print it out. Then when"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "I got to college, I went to MIT and they"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "had a whole computer lab, which was the"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "Sun Workstations."}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:17", "text": ">> Oh, yes."}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:18", "text": ">> Which had pretty good graphics"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "capabilities."}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:20", "text": ">> Yes, they did."}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:23", "text": ">> Yeah. So, I was ended up using the"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "computer lab. Uh, and very few people"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "actually had laptops in their, you know,"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "dorm rooms. In fact, one of my best"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "friends had like a Mac, one of the very"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "early Macs. I forget which one, but you"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "know, with the little floppy drives."}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:35", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:37", "text": ">> The three and a half inch floppy drives,"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "but mostly we would spend, you know, all"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "our time doing our assignments and"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "writing games in in the computer lab"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:45", "text": ">> on So, so like using Solaris?"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:46", "text": ">> Yeah, it was using Solaris and it used"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "something called X Windows."}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:49", "text": ">> Yes, of course. X is still You can't get"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "rid of X."}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:54", "text": ">> You really can't. Yeah, it's like really"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "solid infrastructure that it was built"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "on. So, I actually learned to use"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "Windows X Windows on Unix before I"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "actually used the Windows PC, believe it"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "or not. I mean, obviously, I'd seen a"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "Mac."}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:06", "text": ">> Uh, and we would send each other"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "messages. Uh, it was called Project"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "Athena at MIT. It was one of the first"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "kind ofworked computer labs because if"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "like my my brother went to University of"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "Michigan and you go to the computer lab"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "and each computer was kind of I mean"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "they're connected to the printer but"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "they were kind of doing their own thing"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "whereas with project Athena they were"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "investigating or experimenting with you"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "know writing software where you would"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "communicate with each other and we would"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "just sit there and send trashy you know"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "instant messages to each other before IM"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "was available uh on uh you know on PCs"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "and stuff. So, in fact, one of my"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "friends started the company that became"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "MSN Messenger. They were bought by"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "Microsoft uh at and so a lot of the"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "instant messaging stuff that we've seen"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "over the years um you know had its"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "origins in like these old MIT things"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "that people had just built"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:53", "text": ">> as part of this program"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:56", "text": ">> built on built on like Solaris and X."}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:57", "text": ">> Yeah. Built on Solaris and X programmed"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "in C"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:00", "text": ">> C units basically, right? Programming"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "it."}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:06", "text": ">> Uh my first love is is uh SGIX. I'll go"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "I go back. I still have an an SGI box. I"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "just love that. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Big the"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "big blue box. I used to love it."}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:13", "text": ">> Um, is that how you got started"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "interest? That's how you got interested"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "in video games."}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:18", "text": ">> Yeah. Well, I got interested in video"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "games around the same time that I was"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "learning to program because we had an"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "Atari."}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:24", "text": ">> The 2600."}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:27", "text": ">> Yeah, the 2600. Like the original Atari"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "system. Uh, and we had games like"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "Pac-Man and Sure."}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:32", "text": ">> Space Invaders and an obscure one called"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "Yars Revenge that I always thought was"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "cool. Yes."}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:38", "text": ">> And there was a racing game. Uh I think"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "it was pole position. And it was while I"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "was playing like the racing game. I"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "would look at the guys in the bleachers"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "which were just like these little"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "squares, right? It was like 8bit"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "graphics we're talking"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:50", "text": ">> and then there'd be like a mountain and"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "it would look like there's something out"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "there. And I'd always start to wonder,"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "well, what would happen if I drove the"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "car past the bleachers and pass the"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "mountain? Of course, you you weren't"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "able to, but I always wondered like, is"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "there a little world in here with all"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "these kind of straight lines? So that's"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "when I really started to to wonder about"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "the intersection of video games and"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "virtual reality."}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:11", "text": ">> That is an interesting game to choose"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "because I think Pole Position was one of"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "the first games back then in 8bit to"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "actually use background parallax"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:20", "text": ">> where it started where things started to"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "move at at different I think it was a"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "three or four level parallax, but it it"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "looked kind of real."}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:26", "text": ">> That's right. Yeah, that's exactly"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "right. And I have this slide that I show"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "sometimes which shows whole position as"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "an 8-bit racing game and then it shows"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "like a 16-bit racing game for the"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "Nintendo and then it shows like a 32bit,"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "you know, for the PC and then it shows"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "like the modern games and you can just"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "see how much more realistic it got just"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "by adding a few bits."}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:45", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:47", "text": ">> Right. And it's gotten to the point"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "where you look at these racing games and"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "I mean, even though you can tell the"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "characters are are graphical virtual uh"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "characters designed uh by game"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "designers, the city looks so realistic"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "that you literally could not tell if"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "that was a real city or not. In fact, I"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "don't know if you saw the recent Matrix"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "movie, the fourth Matrix movie."}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:06", "text": ">> I did."}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:07", "text": ">> Uh wasn't that great of a movie, but"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:09", "text": ">> No, but the tech was good."}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:11", "text": ">> The tech was good. But just when they"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "came out with that, they came out with a"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "demo on the Unreal Engine."}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:17", "text": ">> Sure. uh which I I know you know about."}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:18", "text": ">> I'm an Unreal guy, so yeah, I have it."}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:19", "text": ">> Absolutely. And so they used the Unreal"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "Engine and they came out with this demo"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "called The Matrix Awakens. And it wasn't"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "like a full game. It was like a mini"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "game, but it started with a guy that"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "looked like Neo, you know, kind of"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "getting the message on his computer,"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "1999 computer. Wake up Neo. Uh and of"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "course you could, this was 21, so we're"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "talking five years ago now. So the"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "graphics were not nearly as good as they"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "are today. But he would get up and go"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "with Trinity. And there were scenes"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "where you almost thought it was really"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "Canaries or Keranne Moss. But the city"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "they were driving around like I think"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "they filmed that one in San Francisco"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "and Berlin and it looked like a"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "combination of those two cities and it"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "it had just gotten ultra realistic and"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:00", "text": ">> the car chases looked real"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:02", "text": ">> like as soon as you pulled away from the"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "kind of the uncanny valley those"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "cinematic shots of like the car tearing"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "around the corner and flipping over that"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "looked pretty good. Yeah, it did look"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "pretty good. And and you know, the key"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "is you stay away from the humans. Yes."}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "And everything looks realistic. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "there's a reason why. So, Toy Story was"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "uh built or made by Pixar,"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:22", "text": ">> which actually came out of Lucasfilm."}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "So, George Lucas's, you know, special"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "effects company and his film company."}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "And there's a reason why the first fully"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "computerenerated film was actually about"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "toys. It was Toy Story because it's much"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "easier to make those look realistic than"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "it is to get humans. There was a film"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "based on one of the Final Fantasy games,"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "uh, Spirits Within and and they spent"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "like they had like a $200 million budget"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "and they spent like 50 million of it on"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "the hair to get the hair right. And so"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "this is all before AI, right? Now we're"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "seeing a world where AI is making the"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "generation of realistic characters very"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "easy to do."}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:04", "text": ">> Yes. and and but but that's kind of how"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "I've seen the technology evolve, you"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "know, just in my lifetime."}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:09", "text": ">> Sure. Well, well, take us back to how"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "your first game I mean, you couldn't"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "program a game for 2600, right? Because"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "you it was cartridge."}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:15", "text": ">> No, you couldn't. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:17", "text": ">> So, but on the C64, you could."}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:19", "text": ">> Yeah. And so, again, I would make these"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "little graphical games like tic-tac-toe"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "and, you know, other little games that"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "kind of tried to imitate some of the"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "cool arcade games, you know, that I had"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "seen. And then we got an Apple 2. And"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "then I started to look at more from a"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "game design perspective. There were"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "these adventure games. Like, have you"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "ever played King's Quest?"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:37", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:39", "text": ">> Uh, which was, you know, super popular."}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "But there was a whole series of these"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "types of adventure games. And they were"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "on the big floppy discs. Yes."}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:46", "text": ">> Not even the small floppy discs, which"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "which discs, which are pretty old now."}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:48", "text": ">> Yes, they are."}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:49", "text": ">> Kids today have no idea what"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:51", "text": ">> kids today the they were five and a"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "quarter inch. They were huge."}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:54", "text": ">> Yeah, they were huge. Exactly. And so"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "what would happen is you'd put in one of"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "the discs and it would bring up, you"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "know, a picture of, I don't know, a"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "city, let's say, and then you'd say move"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "the character around. They were kind of"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "like the text adventure games like Zork,"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "right? But with some graphical pictures,"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "and then you would go to the next one"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "and the next one."}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:11", "text": ">> Kind of like a graphic novel, choose"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "your own adventure almost."}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:14", "text": ">> Yeah. Almost. Right. And and the"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "innovation that King's Quest made was"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "they actually added like a character"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "that you could actually go to the left"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "or to the right."}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:22", "text": ">> It was bananas."}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:24", "text": ">> It looked like it was real. Yeah. And"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "Sierra Online, the company that made"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "that, uh, was really considered one of"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "the pioneers in graphics. 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That was considered a huge"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "innovation back then because every other"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "game you had to keep taking out the"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "discs and put in the next one."}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:11:58", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:01", "text": ">> And I remember thinking, well, how is it"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "that they can compress these uh these"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "images which are really big and get so"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "many of them and and it turns out it's"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "because they use, you know, a"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "compression technique or they actually"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "use just vector graphics which are"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "commands"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:15", "text": ">> that tell it. So you don't actually"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "store all the pixels,"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:18", "text": ">> right? You store the directions."}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:20", "text": ">> Yeah. So if anybody's ever done this, I"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "mean they have a picture of a JPEG,"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:23", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:25", "text": ">> If you un let's say it's 300 kilobytes"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "or something or 500K, so it's less than"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "a megabyte."}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:29", "text": ">> And if you uncompress that, I mean,"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "we're getting kind of geeky now, so I"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "don't know how far we want to go down"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "this."}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:35", "text": ">> This is a geeky audience."}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:37", "text": ">> Okay, so you know, if you uncompress it"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "and save it as a TIFF, an uncompressed"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "TIFF, it'll be something like a 100"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "megabytes for that one picture, right?"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "And if you think of a film or a TV show"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "like Game of Thrones, I mean, the reason"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "I can stream it on my phone is because"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "it's not sending 100 plus megabytes per"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "frame."}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:13:00", "text": ">> It's compressing it down. And so I began"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "to think about compression really early"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "as an optimization technique for games."}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "And there was this one program, I think"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "it's called like the graphics magician,"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "and it was like a hundred bucks and I"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "couldn't afford it. And I told my"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "parents I because you could take like"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "images and compress them down and you"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "could create like a little adventure"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "game. Uh and I think I entered a"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "programming contest where you could go"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "to different planets and you could in"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "fact this is funny. It wasn't even that"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "graphical because it was mostly text."}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "But I called it the simulation machine."}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "No way."}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:31", "text": ">> In high school I've completely forgotten"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "about this. And the reason I did it was"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "so you could it was like a little bit of"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "text you could change and then the user"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "has to figure out where they are and"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "maybe you could add a graphic or two as"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "well. But I actually used to call it the"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "simulation machine."}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:44", "text": ">> Oh, synchronicities are happening all"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "over your life."}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:46", "text": ">> I haven't thought about that in years"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "actually. We went to the University of"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "Michigan where they had a big"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "programming competition there."}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:53", "text": ">> Do you still have that all that stuff?"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:55", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:57", "text": ">> We my when my dad died recently, we uh"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "you know, we ended up moving cleaning up"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "things in that house and selling it"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "because my mom stays with my my siblings"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "now. But we did still have the Apple 2C"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "sitting there. So, who knows? Maybe"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "there were some old floppy discs still"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "sitting around. It's possible."}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:13", "text": ">> I love it that you were thinking about"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "compression that young. That's amazing."}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "Um I can remember writing programs on"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "the C64 before we can afford to afford a"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "hard drive and just printing them out."}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "Just printing out pages, lines of code"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "before"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:26", "text": ">> and then you re reenter them."}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:27", "text": ">> Then you re-enter them until the 1541"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "drive came out and then the world"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "changed. Like we'll never be able to"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "fill this up."}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:34", "text": ">> So So where do you go from"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "from there? How old were you when you"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "started when you entered that contest?"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:39", "text": ">> Uh that was in high school. So I was"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "probably like 16 17 somewhere."}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:41", "text": ">> Were you thinking this is what I want to"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "do?"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:44", "text": ">> Yeah, I was thinking that computer"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "science is definitely what I want to do."}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "In fact, and this ties to a larger theme"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "we can talk about later, but if you had"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "asked me kind of later in high school"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "when I was old enough to kind of know"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "something about the world or even early"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "college, like what is it you're going to"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "do with your life? I would have told you"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "I'm going to be a software entrepreneur."}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:00", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:02", "text": ">> And then I'm going to be a writer."}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:04", "text": ">> And then you mean later on?"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:05", "text": ">> Later on when I was really old, like 28,"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "because back then, you know, I thought I"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "was in high school. That 28-year-old is"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "really old. You know, I'll make my"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "millions and then I'll go be a writer."}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "And it's odd when you think about it"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "because I I believe we all may have"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "these scripts for our lives that we're"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "unaware of at a conscious level, but"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "somehow unconsciously they seep through"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "sometimes and they come out. Uh but I I"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "definitely knew I wanted to program"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "computers because I was good at it. And"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "I I think then I got to MIT and I found,"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "you know, MIT we had some really smart"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "people and there were guys that were"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "really good at physics and there were"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "guys that are really good at like"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "chemistry. There were guys that were"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "really good at aereroastro and I think"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "it was a wakeup call for most people who"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "went there because they were like, you"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "know, either validictorians or they"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "were, you know, top of their class and"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "and you're around these people and and"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "every now and then you'll have somebody"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "who's really good at X or Y. And so"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "people say, is MIT hard? And I say,"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "well, it depends. If you're really good,"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "if you're the guy that's really good at"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "physics, then MIT is not that hard,"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:05", "text": ">> But if you're everybody else, then"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "physics is really hard at MIT. And I was"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "the guy for whom computer science was"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "just really easy."}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:11", "text": ">> Well, then why why book? What why what"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "book did you want to write?"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:14", "text": ">> I wasn't sure at that point. I just knew"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "that I like to write stories and I"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "wanted to write something someday. Uh it"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "was just a sense that I had that I would"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "be a writer. Going back to the fourth"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "grade when I wrote a little story about"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "a a dwarf that, you know, lived in some"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "kingdom, magical kingdom or something"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "like Well, you were writing storybased"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "games. You weren't really writing"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "shooters. You were writing story games."}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:36", "text": ">> Yeah. Well, I finally got into the video"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "game industry. U was, you know, much"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "later. So, after MIT, I did u uh"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "enterprise software for a while. So, I"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "kind of went in this other direction."}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "And it wasn't until I moved to Silicon"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "Valley that I I got back into games and"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "into the game industry. And that was"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "when the iPhone was relatively new,"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "right? So, it was like, wow, we have a"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "gaming platform now. 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You could just write your"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "program and upload it into the store and"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "people can just download it on their"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "phone because before that, the games on"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "mobile phones were like, you know, these"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "little line games or Tik Tok and you had"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "to go through a big giant publisher and"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "then, you know, Verizon had to approve"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "your game. there was very few games you"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "could play on the old phones. Um, and"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "with the iPhone, anybody could upload an"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "app. And so they, what Apple didn't"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "anticipate was that games would become"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "so popular."}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:37", "text": ">> They didn't see that coming."}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:40", "text": ">> They were actually surprised by it. Uh,"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "and for the first 10 years of the app"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "store, let's say 2008 to 2018, the"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "number one top grossing games, grossing"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "apps were all games. 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These are just, you know,"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "little games you sell for 99 cents. Our,"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "you know, our real games are these these"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "big AAA games. Uh but it turns out today"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "the mobile part of the gaming industry"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "basically dwarfs the console and the PC"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "games. So it's the biggest segment of"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "the entire video game industry which is"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:31", "text": ">> and it's bigger than movies and sports"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "combined."}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:35", "text": ">> Yeah. And add records music"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:36", "text": ">> and music combined."}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:36", "text": ">> All of those combined."}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:38", "text": ">> Combined."}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:40", "text": ">> Video games is a bigger industry. So, we"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "really saw I really saw that evolve from"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "zero to a pretty major industry because"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "back then you could a couple guys could"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "just write a mobile game. Uh, and then"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "uh you know, we ended up building games"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "that were they were called simulation"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "games but not not in the sense that"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "talking about the simulation hypothesis,"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "it was like uh if you've ever played"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "Farmville."}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:18:59", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:02", "text": ">> Uh there were games on Facebook where"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "you simulated having a farm or you"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "simulated running a cafe and we had a"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "game called Tap Fish. uh which I guess"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "with your your hucklefish might be"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "appropriate, but you basically had your"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "own fish tank and you would like, you"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "know, raise little baby fish and breed"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:17", "text": "them and you'd have different species"}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "and and that ended up being the number"}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "one grossing game in the app store for a"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "while and then we sold it to a big"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "Japanese company."}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:25", "text": ">> Now, since you brought it up, we got to"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "get into what was the Daily Show beef"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "with Tapfish because you handled it so"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "well."}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:31", "text": ">> Didn't Didn't they Didn't they sandbag?"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "Didn't they kind of"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:34", "text": ">> They totally sandbagged. Yeah, that's"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "when I learned you have to be a little"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "bit careful with people who are, you"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "know, Hollywood types"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:43", "text": ">> in general because until then I was kind"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "of naive, you know, and they basically"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "came in and uh, you know, kind of"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "sandbagged me and kind of uh, edited"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "this piece."}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:52", "text": ">> What What did they say? They want to"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "interview you about this popular game."}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:54", "text": ">> Yeah. About the popular game in the"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "industry."}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:19:59", "text": ">> Oh, that's not what they did."}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:00", "text": ">> Yeah. No, no. So they ended up basically"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "we were one of the games that were the"}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "first free-to-play games out there. And"}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "what happened was Apple made it so that"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "you know if somebody had a password you"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "know you could just buy stuff in the"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "game. And what happened is uh some kids"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "ended up spending like not just in our"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "game I mean you name it these games and"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "and this is when the industry was"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:22", "text": "actually pretty small. Today you have"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "Fortnite which is like doing I don't"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "know"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:27", "text": ">> million dollars a day probably if not"}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "more than that. So, we're talking very"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "small numbers, but what would happen is"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "you'd have people who would whose kids"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "would end up spending like a thousand"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "dollars on Farmville or and and and so"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "they they sandbagged me by having a a a"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "parent of a kid actually, you know, call"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "on call me and and have a call with us."}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "And then they edited out the part where"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "the parent thanked me"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:54", "text": ">> for for what I said and tried to explain"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "to him how it works. Turns out he had"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "given his kids his password and they had"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "used the password and they made it seem"}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "like we were the villains and they"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:02", "text": "edited out the part. They even had a"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "part where you know if you want to buy"}, {"start": "00:21:02", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "you have to like enter the password."}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "They edited that part out and made it"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "seem like oh you don't even need"}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:09", "text": "passwords and uh so so they made me look"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:11", "text": "like the bad guy. So that was my"}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "introduction to well what the media"}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "tells us in general may not be exactly"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "true out there. We have to keep our"}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "guard up."}, {"start": "00:21:17", "end": "00:21:20", "text": ">> But you and I think might have been the"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "next day didn't you? You posted a"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "rebuttal on your blog which I think is"}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "still there about here's what really"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:26", "text": "happened."}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:28", "text": ">> I did but but nobody read the rebuttal."}, {"start": "00:21:26", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "I mean a small number of people read the"}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:32", "text": "rebuttal. Uh but many people saw the"}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "episode and so that's when I started to"}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "really think about okay what I talk"}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "about today is what I call the hard"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "simulation hypothesis which is that the"}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:41", "text": "physical world is a kind of simulation."}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:43", "text": "But there's also the soft simulation"}, {"start": "00:21:41", "end": "00:21:45", "text": "hypothesis which is more like the"}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "narrative matrix which is what we've"}, {"start": "00:21:45", "end": "00:21:50", "text": "been told. Perhaps not everything that"}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "we've been told is as we've been told on"}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "TV. Whether it's the wars, whether it's"}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:57", "text": "who to make fun of. You know, in 1984,"}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:21:59", "text": "they had the two-minute hate, which was"}, {"start": "00:21:57", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "who are we going to hate today? We'll"}, {"start": "00:21:59", "end": "00:22:01", "text": "get everybody together in a room and"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "we'll put them up there and we'll make"}, {"start": "00:22:01", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "everybody hate them. And of course, you"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "know, we go through that now in the"}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:05", "text": "media all the time."}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:07", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "00:22:05", "end": "00:22:09", "text": ">> Uh but it it was kind of a rude"}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "introduction. Uh which is why I like"}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "doing podcasts because in podcasts, you"}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "know, they're not going to edit. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:15", "text": "they may edit some things in, but it's"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "really a conversation. Yes. And people"}, {"start": "00:22:15", "end": "00:22:19", "text": "are able to see our whole conversation."}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:20", "text": "They won't just see like a little part"}, {"start": "00:22:19", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "made to look like somebody said"}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "something that they didn't say."}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:27", "text": ">> Yeah, that annoyed me when I read that"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:29", "text": "story, but it didn't surprise me."}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:32", "text": ">> Um, eventually we're going to get to"}, {"start": "00:22:29", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "Saucelito and uh your VR experience, but"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:37", "text": "can you tell us what's happening between"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:37", "text": "like leading up to that? How were you"}, {"start": "00:22:37", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "working?"}, {"start": "00:22:37", "end": "00:22:40", "text": ">> So, what happened was yeah, I was"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "working on different games. Uh, we did a"}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:44", "text": "game company where we built games for TV"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:45", "text": "shows. Uh there was a TV show called"}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "Penny Dreadful."}, {"start": "00:22:45", "end": "00:22:49", "text": ">> Uh and a show called Grim. You remember"}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "that show?"}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:51", "text": ">> I love Grim."}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:54", "text": ">> Yeah, Grim is great. And so it was like"}, {"start": "00:22:51", "end": "00:22:55", "text": "a In fact, I designed not not many"}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:22:57", "text": "people know this because it was a small"}, {"start": "00:22:55", "end": "00:22:59", "text": "game, but I designed probably one of the"}, {"start": "00:22:57", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "first, if not the first card battle game"}, {"start": "00:22:59", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "on a phone. Uh because the phones were"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:05", "text": "much smaller back then and people didn't"}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:07", "text": "know how you were going to do a whole"}, {"start": "00:23:05", "end": "00:23:09", "text": "card battle game there. And I did one"}, {"start": "00:23:07", "end": "00:23:11", "text": "called Titans versus Olympians. So we"}, {"start": "00:23:09", "end": "00:23:13", "text": "had like the Greek uh you know the Greek"}, {"start": "00:23:11", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "titans and then the Greek Olympians like"}, {"start": "00:23:13", "end": "00:23:17", "text": "Zeus and you would play this game and"}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "for so many turns and then eventually we"}, {"start": "00:23:17", "end": "00:23:21", "text": "ended up creating a card battle engine"}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:23", "text": "which we could use. This was now a"}, {"start": "00:23:21", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "different company. We sold off the our"}, {"start": "00:23:23", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "game company to a big Japanese company"}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:29", "text": "and then uh we did some games for TV"}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:32", "text": "shows and I became more of an investor"}, {"start": "00:23:29", "end": "00:23:33", "text": "and adviser to different companies."}, {"start": "00:23:32", "end": "00:23:35", "text": ">> Didn't you do Game of Thrones?"}, {"start": "00:23:33", "end": "00:23:37", "text": ">> Uh one of one of the companies that I"}, {"start": "00:23:35", "end": "00:23:37", "text": "was an investor in did a Game of Thrones"}, {"start": "00:23:37", "end": "00:23:39", "text": "game."}, {"start": "00:23:37", "end": "00:23:40", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. My mom has spent a fortune"}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:41", "text": "on your on that game."}, {"start": "00:23:40", "end": "00:23:43", "text": ">> Yeah. of sport."}, {"start": "00:23:41", "end": "00:23:45", "text": ">> I was an investor in Telltale games as"}, {"start": "00:23:43", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "well, which which had a Walking Dead"}, {"start": "00:23:45", "end": "00:23:47", "text": "game that was huge."}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:50", "text": ">> It was. It was. And it was great."}, {"start": "00:23:47", "end": "00:23:52", "text": ">> And and Telltale was storybased games."}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:54", "text": ">> It's really back to the same thing. It's"}, {"start": "00:23:52", "end": "00:23:55", "text": "like a graphic novel that you play."}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:23:57", "text": ">> Yeah. Exactly. Now, Telltale eventually"}, {"start": "00:23:55", "end": "00:23:59", "text": "imploded. So, this happens a lot with"}, {"start": "00:23:57", "end": "00:24:01", "text": "game industries where game industry"}, {"start": "00:23:59", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "companies where you have a big hit and"}, {"start": "00:24:01", "end": "00:24:04", "text": "then you try to do too much and then the"}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:06", "text": "whole thing imploded. So that wasn't"}, {"start": "00:24:04", "end": "00:24:08", "text": "good for me as an investor, but it was"}, {"start": "00:24:06", "end": "00:24:10", "text": "good for the industry because, you know,"}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:12", "text": "Telltale then broke up and all these"}, {"start": "00:24:10", "end": "00:24:13", "text": "people went out and started new game"}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:14", "text": "companies. So there's all kinds of"}, {"start": "00:24:13", "end": "00:24:16", "text": "interesting games out there now that"}, {"start": "00:24:14", "end": "00:24:17", "text": "were from people who used to work at"}, {"start": "00:24:16", "end": "00:24:20", "text": "Telltale."}, {"start": "00:24:17", "end": "00:24:23", "text": ">> So um at that point, um we're talking"}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:24", "text": "maybe 2010, 2011."}, {"start": "00:24:23", "end": "00:24:26", "text": ">> Yeah. Also invested in a small company"}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:27", "text": "that's now called Discord."}, {"start": "00:24:26", "end": "00:24:28", "text": ">> Yes, I'm aware of that."}, {"start": "00:24:27", "end": "00:24:29", "text": ">> Which was a game company actually. It"}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:31", "text": "wasn't"}, {"start": "00:24:29", "end": "00:24:33", "text": ">> really. Yeah. They started as a a mobile"}, {"start": "00:24:31", "end": "00:24:35", "text": "game kind of like League of Legends but"}, {"start": "00:24:33", "end": "00:24:37", "text": "on an iPhone. And I knew Jason Citroen"}, {"start": "00:24:35", "end": "00:24:39", "text": "who had founded Discord because he he"}, {"start": "00:24:37", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "was in the mobile game industry. So we"}, {"start": "00:24:39", "end": "00:24:43", "text": "all kind of knew each other back then in"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:46", "text": "in San Francisco, Silicon Valley, like a"}, {"start": "00:24:43", "end": "00:24:47", "text": "lot of the big AAA games were in LA, but"}, {"start": "00:24:46", "end": "00:24:50", "text": "a lot of the the mobile games came out"}, {"start": "00:24:47", "end": "00:24:51", "text": "of the San Francisco Bay area. And so,"}, {"start": "00:24:50", "end": "00:24:53", "text": "you know, when he started this this"}, {"start": "00:24:51", "end": "00:24:55", "text": "company, uh he was like, \"Okay, I'm"}, {"start": "00:24:53", "end": "00:24:57", "text": "going to do, you know, either a 3D"}, {"start": "00:24:55", "end": "00:24:59", "text": "printing company or or another game"}, {"start": "00:24:57", "end": "00:25:00", "text": "company.\" So he ended up doing another"}, {"start": "00:24:59", "end": "00:25:02", "text": "game company and I ended up investing in"}, {"start": "00:25:00", "end": "00:25:04", "text": "his first round. But then what happened"}, {"start": "00:25:02", "end": "00:25:07", "text": "was that the game wasn't that successful"}, {"start": "00:25:04", "end": "00:25:08", "text": "and these guys hated Skype. So they"}, {"start": "00:25:07", "end": "00:25:10", "text": "wanted to build something other than"}, {"start": "00:25:08", "end": "00:25:12", "text": "Skype for talking to each other while"}, {"start": "00:25:10", "end": "00:25:15", "text": "they're playing their, you know, mobile"}, {"start": "00:25:12", "end": "00:25:17", "text": "battle arena game. And then eventually"}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:19", "text": "they ended up releasing that as a"}, {"start": "00:25:17", "end": "00:25:21", "text": "separate app, Discord. And I remember we"}, {"start": "00:25:19", "end": "00:25:22", "text": "had lunch and he said, \"Oh, you know,"}, {"start": "00:25:21", "end": "00:25:23", "text": "the game's not doing so well, but this"}, {"start": "00:25:22", "end": "00:25:25", "text": "app is doing well.\" I was like,"}, {"start": "00:25:23", "end": "00:25:28", "text": "\"Really?\" He goes, \"Yeah, we have like"}, {"start": "00:25:25", "end": "00:25:30", "text": "100,000 downloads. It's pretty good like"}, {"start": "00:25:28", "end": "00:25:31", "text": "per month. He's like, \"No, per week.\""}, {"start": "00:25:30", "end": "00:25:33", "text": "And I said, \"Wow, how much marketing are"}, {"start": "00:25:31", "end": "00:25:34", "text": "you spending, dollars are you spending"}, {"start": "00:25:33", "end": "00:25:36", "text": "to get these downloads?\" Because, you"}, {"start": "00:25:34", "end": "00:25:38", "text": "know, there was an advertising industry"}, {"start": "00:25:36", "end": "00:25:40", "text": "uh that often mobile developers use to"}, {"start": "00:25:38", "end": "00:25:41", "text": "get people to download their apps. And"}, {"start": "00:25:40", "end": "00:25:43", "text": "he was like, \"Zero. People are just"}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:44", "text": "dragging their friends into it.\" And of"}, {"start": "00:25:43", "end": "00:25:45", "text": "course, now Discord is huge. It's used."}, {"start": "00:25:44", "end": "00:25:47", "text": ">> Sure, we use it."}, {"start": "00:25:45", "end": "00:25:49", "text": ">> You guys use it for Yep. It's used all"}, {"start": "00:25:47", "end": "00:25:51", "text": "over the place now. But it started off"}, {"start": "00:25:49", "end": "00:25:53", "text": "just for gamers, you know, and then it"}, {"start": "00:25:51", "end": "00:25:55", "text": "eventually expanded."}, {"start": "00:25:53", "end": "00:25:56", "text": ">> How did you get into investing in these"}, {"start": "00:25:55", "end": "00:25:59", "text": "companies? Well, if you're just part of"}, {"start": "00:25:56", "end": "00:26:01", "text": "that ecosystem, you kind of know uh you"}, {"start": "00:25:59", "end": "00:26:03", "text": "know a lot of different entrepreneurs"}, {"start": "00:26:01", "end": "00:26:04", "text": "and when you sell your company, you're"}, {"start": "00:26:03", "end": "00:26:06", "text": "like, okay, how do I you know, help"}, {"start": "00:26:04", "end": "00:26:08", "text": "along the next generation of"}, {"start": "00:26:06", "end": "00:26:10", "text": "entrepreneurs. Uh and then I went to MIT"}, {"start": "00:26:08", "end": "00:26:11", "text": "and ran a startup program there for a"}, {"start": "00:26:10", "end": "00:26:13", "text": "couple of years. Okay."}, {"start": "00:26:11", "end": "00:26:15", "text": ">> Which was based on not all games, but it"}, {"start": "00:26:13", "end": "00:26:17", "text": "was at the MIT game lab, which is like"}, {"start": "00:26:15", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "within the media lab complex there. Uh"}, {"start": "00:26:17", "end": "00:26:20", "text": "and that was a lot of fun. So, I did"}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:21", "text": "that for a little while as well."}, {"start": "00:26:20", "end": "00:26:22", "text": ">> Were you still writing code during this"}, {"start": "00:26:21", "end": "00:26:24", "text": "time?"}, {"start": "00:26:22", "end": "00:26:25", "text": ">> No, by then I had kind of stepped back"}, {"start": "00:26:24", "end": "00:26:26", "text": "from writing code. I think"}, {"start": "00:26:25", "end": "00:26:28", "text": ">> you miss it a little bit, don't you?"}, {"start": "00:26:26", "end": "00:26:29", "text": ">> I I do miss it, but I don't have the"}, {"start": "00:26:28", "end": "00:26:30", "text": "time for it."}, {"start": "00:26:29", "end": "00:26:33", "text": ">> I hear you."}, {"start": "00:26:30", "end": "00:26:34", "text": ">> Which is why now with AI, uh, it's"}, {"start": "00:26:33", "end": "00:26:36", "text": "gotten pretty good. Like a couple years"}, {"start": "00:26:34", "end": "00:26:37", "text": "ago, I said I think this was like maybe"}, {"start": "00:26:36", "end": "00:26:40", "text": "a year and a half ago. I said, \"Okay,"}, {"start": "00:26:37", "end": "00:26:42", "text": "let me see if Chat GPT can write a"}, {"start": "00:26:40", "end": "00:26:43", "text": "simple Pac-Man game, you know, and and"}, {"start": "00:26:42", "end": "00:26:45", "text": "it it got something up and running"}, {"start": "00:26:43", "end": "00:26:47", "text": "pretty quickly, but it wasn't quite"}, {"start": "00:26:45", "end": "00:26:48", "text": "right. You know, the Pac-Man wasn't"}, {"start": "00:26:47", "end": "00:26:50", "text": "pointing in the right direction.\" And I"}, {"start": "00:26:48", "end": "00:26:52", "text": "found I had to like do so much code, you"}, {"start": "00:26:50", "end": "00:26:54", "text": "know, vibe coding and extra prompts."}, {"start": "00:26:52", "end": "00:26:55", "text": "Eventually, I just went in the code and"}, {"start": "00:26:54", "end": "00:26:57", "text": "just started changing it myself"}, {"start": "00:26:55", "end": "00:27:00", "text": ">> to fix, you know, the direction of the"}, {"start": "00:26:57", "end": "00:27:01", "text": "Pac-Man, for example. But now, I hear"}, {"start": "00:27:00", "end": "00:27:02", "text": "that it's gotten so good that you don't"}, {"start": "00:27:01", "end": "00:27:04", "text": "have to go into the code yourself"}, {"start": "00:27:02", "end": "00:27:05", "text": "anymore. So, I may get back into it."}, {"start": "00:27:04", "end": "00:27:06", "text": "We'll see."}, {"start": "00:27:05", "end": "00:27:09", "text": ">> Even though you had to go in and tweak"}, {"start": "00:27:06", "end": "00:27:11", "text": "that code back then, I still bet you got"}, {"start": "00:27:09", "end": "00:27:12", "text": "it working faster than Williams did in"}, {"start": "00:27:11", "end": "00:27:14", "text": "1981."}, {"start": "00:27:12", "end": "00:27:16", "text": ">> Way faster. In fact, that was the"}, {"start": "00:27:14", "end": "00:27:19", "text": "benefit was you get something up and"}, {"start": "00:27:16", "end": "00:27:20", "text": "running quickly. Yes. With AI. Now, if"}, {"start": "00:27:19", "end": "00:27:22", "text": "you added the all the total amount of"}, {"start": "00:27:20", "end": "00:27:25", "text": "time it took me to get it right, it"}, {"start": "00:27:22", "end": "00:27:26", "text": "would probably have been similar, but I"}, {"start": "00:27:25", "end": "00:27:27", "text": "wouldn't have had anything you could"}, {"start": "00:27:26", "end": "00:27:27", "text": "really see"}, {"start": "00:27:27", "end": "00:27:30", "text": ">> right"}, {"start": "00:27:27", "end": "00:27:32", "text": ">> till like let's say 50% of the process"}, {"start": "00:27:30", "end": "00:27:34", "text": "here. I had it like 10% of the process"}, {"start": "00:27:32", "end": "00:27:36", "text": "was the initial getting the game up and"}, {"start": "00:27:34", "end": "00:27:38", "text": "running and then the rest of it was"}, {"start": "00:27:36", "end": "00:27:40", "text": "tweaking. So, it's a different I I think"}, {"start": "00:27:38", "end": "00:27:42", "text": "you know people who are building games"}, {"start": "00:27:40", "end": "00:27:43", "text": "today now are are dealing with a much"}, {"start": "00:27:42", "end": "00:27:45", "text": "better set of tools."}, {"start": "00:27:43", "end": "00:27:48", "text": ">> Yes, they are. than we had or certainly"}, {"start": "00:27:45", "end": "00:27:50", "text": "then the guys had who did like the these"}, {"start": "00:27:48", "end": "00:27:51", "text": "original game arcade games where"}, {"start": "00:27:50", "end": "00:27:54", "text": "whatever"}, {"start": "00:27:51", "end": "00:27:56", "text": ">> 60 not even 64k think of the Atari"}, {"start": "00:27:54", "end": "00:28:00", "text": "memory on those you know Steve Jobs and"}, {"start": "00:27:56", "end": "00:28:01", "text": "Steve Bosnjak wrote a uh a game called I"}, {"start": "00:28:00", "end": "00:28:05", "text": "think it was called Breakout for the"}, {"start": "00:28:01", "end": "00:28:07", "text": "Atari uh cartridge and Steve Jobs got"}, {"start": "00:28:05", "end": "00:28:09", "text": "paid for it but he actually had Waznjak"}, {"start": "00:28:07", "end": "00:28:10", "text": "come in and write it for him."}, {"start": "00:28:09", "end": "00:28:12", "text": ">> Did they write Breakout? That was the"}, {"start": "00:28:10", "end": "00:28:13", "text": "that was the one where you hit hit the"}, {"start": "00:28:12", "end": "00:28:15", "text": "bricks. Yeah, I think it was that one."}, {"start": "00:28:13", "end": "00:28:17", "text": "Uh, don't quote me on that, but it was"}, {"start": "00:28:15", "end": "00:28:18", "text": "definitely something like that. Was it"}, {"start": "00:28:17", "end": "00:28:19", "text": "was a very early one of those"}, {"start": "00:28:18", "end": "00:28:21", "text": "cartridges."}, {"start": "00:28:19", "end": "00:28:23", "text": ">> It was, but it was a groundbreaking game"}, {"start": "00:28:21", "end": "00:28:23", "text": "because of the physics was were really"}, {"start": "00:28:23", "end": "00:28:26", "text": "cool."}, {"start": "00:28:23", "end": "00:28:27", "text": ">> Yeah. Here's an aside on Atari, having"}, {"start": "00:28:26", "end": "00:28:29", "text": "been in the game industry, there's"}, {"start": "00:28:27", "end": "00:28:31", "text": "there's a great book called 8-bit"}, {"start": "00:28:29", "end": "00:28:32", "text": "apocalypse. And if you've ever played"}, {"start": "00:28:31", "end": "00:28:33", "text": "the game Missile Command,"}, {"start": "00:28:32", "end": "00:28:34", "text": ">> of course,"}, {"start": "00:28:33", "end": "00:28:36", "text": ">> you know the which we've all played"}, {"start": "00:28:34", "end": "00:28:38", "text": "because I mean that was a really popular"}, {"start": "00:28:36", "end": "00:28:40", "text": "game. Yes. I mean, by today's graphics,"}, {"start": "00:28:38", "end": "00:28:42", "text": "it's, you know, it looks very primitive."}, {"start": "00:28:40", "end": "00:28:42", "text": "I I doubt I could get my nephews"}, {"start": "00:28:42", "end": "00:28:44", "text": "interested."}, {"start": "00:28:42", "end": "00:28:44", "text": ">> I don't know. It's pretty playable"}, {"start": "00:28:44", "end": "00:28:46", "text": "still."}, {"start": "00:28:44", "end": "00:28:48", "text": ">> It it is. I haven't tried it lately, you"}, {"start": "00:28:46", "end": "00:28:52", "text": "know, but the guy who wrote it was, you"}, {"start": "00:28:48", "end": "00:28:54", "text": "know, researching ICBMs and nuclear war."}, {"start": "00:28:52", "end": "00:28:57", "text": "And he started to have dreams and"}, {"start": "00:28:54", "end": "00:28:59", "text": "nightmares about a nuclear war. And so,"}, {"start": "00:28:57", "end": "00:29:02", "text": "you know, this book 8-bit apocalypse is"}, {"start": "00:28:59", "end": "00:29:04", "text": "all about his, you know, his kind of"}, {"start": "00:29:02", "end": "00:29:06", "text": "moral dilemma in writing this game and"}, {"start": "00:29:04", "end": "00:29:08", "text": "what he went through because back in the"}, {"start": "00:29:06", "end": "00:29:10", "text": "70s and 80s, I mean, that was a real"}, {"start": "00:29:08", "end": "00:29:12", "text": "thing as you remember. Of course. Every"}, {"start": "00:29:10", "end": "00:29:13", "text": "day we thought it was going to be a"}, {"start": "00:29:12", "end": "00:29:14", "text": "nuclear war. We live with that every"}, {"start": "00:29:13", "end": "00:29:16", "text": "single day."}, {"start": "00:29:14", "end": "00:29:20", "text": ">> Yeah, absolutely."}, {"start": "00:29:16", "end": "00:29:22", "text": ">> All right. So, Saucelo 2016. Um, tell me"}, {"start": "00:29:20", "end": "00:29:25", "text": "what was going on that day before you"}, {"start": "00:29:22", "end": "00:29:26", "text": "throw on the VR headset. Was VR a thing?"}, {"start": "00:29:25", "end": "00:29:28", "text": "Did someone invite you over and said,"}, {"start": "00:29:26", "end": "00:29:29", "text": "\"We got this idea?\""}, {"start": "00:29:28", "end": "00:29:30", "text": ">> Yeah. So, what happens is virtual"}, {"start": "00:29:29", "end": "00:29:33", "text": "reality has gone through a bunch of"}, {"start": "00:29:30", "end": "00:29:36", "text": "different waves over time. Even back"}, {"start": "00:29:33", "end": "00:29:38", "text": "when I was in college back in '92, '93,"}, {"start": "00:29:36", "end": "00:29:40", "text": "there was a novel called Snow Crash. uh"}, {"start": "00:29:38", "end": "00:29:43", "text": "and there was a wave of VR. In fact,"}, {"start": "00:29:40", "end": "00:29:46", "text": "that that term itself was coined in like"}, {"start": "00:29:43", "end": "00:29:48", "text": "I think 1987 or 1988 by a guy named"}, {"start": "00:29:46", "end": "00:29:51", "text": "Jiren Laneir and the movie Lawnmower Man"}, {"start": "00:29:48", "end": "00:29:52", "text": "was very loosely based on him, right, as"}, {"start": "00:29:51", "end": "00:29:55", "text": "I understand it."}, {"start": "00:29:52", "end": "00:29:56", "text": ">> Uh but that wave kind of went away and"}, {"start": "00:29:55", "end": "00:29:58", "text": "they had a glove even you if you think"}, {"start": "00:29:56", "end": "00:29:59", "text": "of like Ready Player One."}, {"start": "00:29:58", "end": "00:30:00", "text": ">> That's right. right? They had a glove"}, {"start": "00:29:59", "end": "00:30:02", "text": "way back in the late ' 80s and 90s and"}, {"start": "00:30:00", "end": "00:30:05", "text": "then it kind of went away."}, {"start": "00:30:02", "end": "00:30:10", "text": ">> And what happened was in 2012 there was"}, {"start": "00:30:05", "end": "00:30:12", "text": "a new u new wave of VR. Oculus was one"}, {"start": "00:30:10", "end": "00:30:13", "text": "of the first startups, consumer"}, {"start": "00:30:12", "end": "00:30:16", "text": "headsets, right? Because until then they"}, {"start": "00:30:13", "end": "00:30:18", "text": "were unaffordable for consumers. And so"}, {"start": "00:30:16", "end": "00:30:21", "text": "there was a whole series of u of"}, {"start": "00:30:18", "end": "00:30:24", "text": "headsets like the HTC Vive, etc. And I"}, {"start": "00:30:21", "end": "00:30:25", "text": "had sold my last video game company. And"}, {"start": "00:30:24", "end": "00:30:27", "text": "one of the companies that actually took"}, {"start": "00:30:25", "end": "00:30:29", "text": "over some of the games was in Saleloto,"}, {"start": "00:30:27", "end": "00:30:32", "text": "company called Freerange Games. And they"}, {"start": "00:30:29", "end": "00:30:32", "text": "were working with HTC to create sports"}, {"start": "00:30:32", "end": "00:30:35", "text": "games there."}, {"start": "00:30:32", "end": "00:30:37", "text": ">> Ah, and so we went over to their office"}, {"start": "00:30:35", "end": "00:30:39", "text": "uh and just to kind of meet the people"}, {"start": "00:30:37", "end": "00:30:42", "text": "and find out more. It was a beautiful"}, {"start": "00:30:39", "end": "00:30:43", "text": "day in Salelo. If you've been there,"}, {"start": "00:30:42", "end": "00:30:44", "text": "people who've been there will know on a"}, {"start": "00:30:43", "end": "00:30:47", "text": "beautiful day, you can see the San"}, {"start": "00:30:44", "end": "00:30:49", "text": "Francisco skyline. Uh, and you know, I"}, {"start": "00:30:47", "end": "00:30:51", "text": "think it's one of the the prettiest uh"}, {"start": "00:30:49", "end": "00:30:54", "text": "views that we have in any of our our"}, {"start": "00:30:51", "end": "00:30:56", "text": "major cities out there. Uh, and so they"}, {"start": "00:30:54", "end": "00:30:58", "text": "were literally right on the bay. So you"}, {"start": "00:30:56", "end": "00:31:00", "text": "could from their offices we could see"}, {"start": "00:30:58", "end": "00:31:02", "text": "the uh the skyline and they said, \"Hey,"}, {"start": "00:31:00", "end": "00:31:03", "text": "you got to come upstairs and try out"}, {"start": "00:31:02", "end": "00:31:06", "text": "this new VR headset thing.\" And so I was"}, {"start": "00:31:03", "end": "00:31:07", "text": "going through one of these waves. Some"}, {"start": "00:31:06", "end": "00:31:09", "text": "of my academic research that I've done"}, {"start": "00:31:07", "end": "00:31:11", "text": "is about how innovation goes through"}, {"start": "00:31:09", "end": "00:31:12", "text": "waves and a bunch of venture"}, {"start": "00:31:11", "end": "00:31:14", "text": "capitalists, you know, jump in and a"}, {"start": "00:31:12", "end": "00:31:16", "text": "bunch of entrepreneurs jump in"}, {"start": "00:31:14", "end": "00:31:18", "text": ">> and and that's what happened in the in"}, {"start": "00:31:16", "end": "00:31:19", "text": "the mobile game industry. It was a new"}, {"start": "00:31:18", "end": "00:31:21", "text": "wave. A bunch of entrepreneurs started"}, {"start": "00:31:19", "end": "00:31:23", "text": "to build games and then a bunch of"}, {"start": "00:31:21", "end": "00:31:24", "text": "investors started to invest in them."}, {"start": "00:31:23", "end": "00:31:25", "text": ">> Tell me a few more of those waves."}, {"start": "00:31:24", "end": "00:31:28", "text": "That's interesting."}, {"start": "00:31:25", "end": "00:31:29", "text": ">> Yeah. So, you know, these waves happen"}, {"start": "00:31:28", "end": "00:31:32", "text": "over time. I mean, we're obviously in a"}, {"start": "00:31:29", "end": "00:31:34", "text": "major wave now, which AI wave, but but"}, {"start": "00:31:32", "end": "00:31:37", "text": "this isn't the first AI wave. The first"}, {"start": "00:31:34", "end": "00:31:39", "text": "AI wave happened in the 80s and it was"}, {"start": "00:31:37", "end": "00:31:40", "text": "with this thing called expert systems."}, {"start": "00:31:39", "end": "00:31:42", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:31:40", "end": "00:31:44", "text": ">> Okay. And these were rulebased systems."}, {"start": "00:31:42", "end": "00:31:46", "text": "So they tried to take like an expert"}, {"start": "00:31:44", "end": "00:31:50", "text": "who's like really good at I don't know"}, {"start": "00:31:46", "end": "00:31:53", "text": "let's say uh machine debugging or"}, {"start": "00:31:50", "end": "00:31:54", "text": "diagnosis of problems uh in an"}, {"start": "00:31:53", "end": "00:31:58", "text": "industrial setting and they try to"}, {"start": "00:31:54", "end": "00:31:59", "text": "codify those rule sets into a big"}, {"start": "00:31:58", "end": "00:32:01", "text": "knowledge system and the idea was you"}, {"start": "00:31:59", "end": "00:32:02", "text": "could just ask the knowledge system"}, {"start": "00:32:01", "end": "00:32:04", "text": "what's wrong and it would guide you"}, {"start": "00:32:02", "end": "00:32:07", "text": "through the whole thing. Now that turned"}, {"start": "00:32:04", "end": "00:32:10", "text": "out to be not manageable like it was too"}, {"start": "00:32:07", "end": "00:32:11", "text": "many rules uh and you know just just"}, {"start": "00:32:10", "end": "00:32:13", "text": "like having a lot of code that you have"}, {"start": "00:32:11", "end": "00:32:15", "text": "to manage right because they were coding"}, {"start": "00:32:13", "end": "00:32:17", "text": "these rules often by hand"}, {"start": "00:32:15", "end": "00:32:19", "text": ">> and that took too long and so that there"}, {"start": "00:32:17", "end": "00:32:21", "text": "was a company called Symbolics uh in"}, {"start": "00:32:19", "end": "00:32:24", "text": "Cambridge, Massachusetts around MIT was"}, {"start": "00:32:21", "end": "00:32:26", "text": "a big hub for this AI wave. So that AI"}, {"start": "00:32:24", "end": "00:32:29", "text": "wave kind of went"}, {"start": "00:32:26", "end": "00:32:32", "text": ">> went away. Uh and then we had another AI"}, {"start": "00:32:29", "end": "00:32:34", "text": "wave back in the 2000s which was"}, {"start": "00:32:32", "end": "00:32:35", "text": "starting to be based on"}, {"start": "00:32:34", "end": "00:32:36", "text": "deep learning and big data."}, {"start": "00:32:35", "end": "00:32:39", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:32:36", "end": "00:32:41", "text": ">> Uh which is this idea of neural nets and"}, {"start": "00:32:39", "end": "00:32:43", "text": "you can have multiple you know multiple"}, {"start": "00:32:41", "end": "00:32:45", "text": "layers of neural nets and then they make"}, {"start": "00:32:43", "end": "00:32:46", "text": "the decision for you. Neural nets have"}, {"start": "00:32:45", "end": "00:32:47", "text": "been around for a while."}, {"start": "00:32:46", "end": "00:32:49", "text": ">> Sure. Machine learn Yeah. We we all we"}, {"start": "00:32:47", "end": "00:32:50", "text": "know about big blue and chess and all of"}, {"start": "00:32:49", "end": "00:32:52", "text": "that was happening."}, {"start": "00:32:50", "end": "00:32:53", "text": ">> Yeah. Although most of that was still"}, {"start": "00:32:52", "end": "00:32:53", "text": "rule rule."}, {"start": "00:32:53", "end": "00:32:55", "text": ">> Still rule based"}, {"start": "00:32:53", "end": "00:32:58", "text": ">> believe it or not really. So it it I"}, {"start": "00:32:55", "end": "00:33:00", "text": "mean the guys who won like um the"}, {"start": "00:32:58", "end": "00:33:02", "text": "touring prize a guy named Jeff Hinton uh"}, {"start": "00:33:00", "end": "00:33:05", "text": "he was I think was it University of"}, {"start": "00:33:02", "end": "00:33:07", "text": "Wateroo in Toronto in in Canada anyway"}, {"start": "00:33:05", "end": "00:33:09", "text": "they kept it alive because people"}, {"start": "00:33:07", "end": "00:33:11", "text": "weren't using neural nets for much like"}, {"start": "00:33:09", "end": "00:33:12", "text": "even when I was a student at MIT they"}, {"start": "00:33:11", "end": "00:33:15", "text": "showed us how to how a neural net worked"}, {"start": "00:33:12", "end": "00:33:17", "text": "and and how we could use it to train it"}, {"start": "00:33:15", "end": "00:33:19", "text": "to like if people with the the number"}, {"start": "00:33:17", "end": "00:33:21", "text": "two or the number three we would feed it"}, {"start": "00:33:19", "end": "00:33:22", "text": "examples and these were like really"}, {"start": "00:33:21", "end": "00:33:25", "text": "simple neural nets they weren't they"}, {"start": "00:33:22", "end": "00:33:27", "text": "didn't have many layers Um but they"}, {"start": "00:33:25", "end": "00:33:29", "text": "worked I mean back then but nobody was"}, {"start": "00:33:27", "end": "00:33:32", "text": "using them for anything. Uh and it"}, {"start": "00:33:29", "end": "00:33:33", "text": "wasn't until they scaled them massively."}, {"start": "00:33:32", "end": "00:33:36", "text": "That was the difference. That's where"}, {"start": "00:33:33", "end": "00:33:38", "text": "machine data and machine learning comes"}, {"start": "00:33:36", "end": "00:33:39", "text": "from. It's like you just run it on huge"}, {"start": "00:33:38", "end": "00:33:41", "text": "sets of"}, {"start": "00:33:39", "end": "00:33:42", "text": ">> is that when when Jeff Hen started to"}, {"start": "00:33:41", "end": "00:33:43", "text": "started to panic"}, {"start": "00:33:42", "end": "00:33:43", "text": ">> because he doesn't like where things are"}, {"start": "00:33:43", "end": "00:33:44", "text": "going."}, {"start": "00:33:43", "end": "00:33:47", "text": ">> He doesn't like where things are going"}, {"start": "00:33:44", "end": "00:33:48", "text": "now. Right. Well then but eventually he"}, {"start": "00:33:47", "end": "00:33:53", "text": "did because people took up you know his"}, {"start": "00:33:48", "end": "00:33:54", "text": "ideas. He had Google deep mind. Yep."}, {"start": "00:33:53", "end": "00:33:57", "text": "video playing games like chess is an"}, {"start": "00:33:54", "end": "00:34:00", "text": "interesting example because Deep Mind"}, {"start": "00:33:57", "end": "00:34:03", "text": "had uh you know the the ability to play"}, {"start": "00:34:00", "end": "00:34:05", "text": "the game Go and they had the Alpha Go"}, {"start": "00:34:03", "end": "00:34:07", "text": "platform which was one of the first"}, {"start": "00:34:05", "end": "00:34:10", "text": "platforms that could actually beat like"}, {"start": "00:34:07", "end": "00:34:11", "text": "a human champion of the game Go and and"}, {"start": "00:34:10", "end": "00:34:12", "text": "it's much harder than chess in"}, {"start": "00:34:11", "end": "00:34:14", "text": ">> much harder."}, {"start": "00:34:12", "end": "00:34:17", "text": ">> Yeah. But but they had coded some rules"}, {"start": "00:34:14", "end": "00:34:18", "text": "and then they used the machine playing a"}, {"start": "00:34:17", "end": "00:34:20", "text": "human and then eventually they had the"}, {"start": "00:34:18", "end": "00:34:20", "text": "machine just play itself like a million"}, {"start": "00:34:20", "end": "00:34:22", "text": "times."}, {"start": "00:34:20", "end": "00:34:24", "text": ">> Sure. And so it learns the patterns like"}, {"start": "00:34:22", "end": "00:34:26", "text": "you don't actually have to code the"}, {"start": "00:34:24", "end": "00:34:28", "text": "patterns. And there's a guy named Claude"}, {"start": "00:34:26", "end": "00:34:30", "text": "Shannon and again we're kind of geeking"}, {"start": "00:34:28", "end": "00:34:32", "text": "out on the information side of this now."}, {"start": "00:34:30", "end": "00:34:34", "text": "Uh but Claude Shannon was considered the"}, {"start": "00:34:32", "end": "00:34:36", "text": "founder the father of uh information"}, {"start": "00:34:34", "end": "00:34:39", "text": "science. He was at Bell Labs and he"}, {"start": "00:34:36", "end": "00:34:41", "text": "became an MIT professor and"}, {"start": "00:34:39", "end": "00:34:43", "text": "part of the reason we can ship you know"}, {"start": "00:34:41", "end": "00:34:47", "text": "information across the wire is because"}, {"start": "00:34:43", "end": "00:34:50", "text": "of his work. Um, and he he wrote a paper"}, {"start": "00:34:47", "end": "00:34:54", "text": "about computers and game playing way"}, {"start": "00:34:50", "end": "00:34:56", "text": "back in like the 1950s 40s. And he said,"}, {"start": "00:34:54", "end": "00:34:58", "text": "you know, there's different stages that"}, {"start": "00:34:56", "end": "00:35:00", "text": "it could go through. One of which is uh"}, {"start": "00:34:58", "end": "00:35:01", "text": "you can tell it the rules and it'll play"}, {"start": "00:35:00", "end": "00:35:04", "text": "the game. And there's a little picture"}, {"start": "00:35:01", "end": "00:35:06", "text": "of him uh and his wife sitting with a"}, {"start": "00:35:04", "end": "00:35:08", "text": "like a big box that has a chessboard on"}, {"start": "00:35:06", "end": "00:35:10", "text": "top. And it was one of the first chess"}, {"start": "00:35:08", "end": "00:35:14", "text": "playing computers. And but it was it was"}, {"start": "00:35:10", "end": "00:35:15", "text": "a physical machine and it would light up"}, {"start": "00:35:14", "end": "00:35:16", "text": "where"}, {"start": "00:35:15", "end": "00:35:17", "text": ">> I know it. I know the machine."}, {"start": "00:35:16", "end": "00:35:20", "text": ">> Yeah. And you had to somebody had to"}, {"start": "00:35:17", "end": "00:35:21", "text": "physically move like the pawn or the"}, {"start": "00:35:20", "end": "00:35:24", "text": "horse"}, {"start": "00:35:21", "end": "00:35:26", "text": ">> to know that place and so but he said"}, {"start": "00:35:24", "end": "00:35:28", "text": "eventually machines will be able to"}, {"start": "00:35:26", "end": "00:35:30", "text": "learn the rules of the game. And that's"}, {"start": "00:35:28", "end": "00:35:32", "text": "what happened with you know there was"}, {"start": "00:35:30", "end": "00:35:34", "text": "like Alpha Go and then there was another"}, {"start": "00:35:32", "end": "00:35:36", "text": "version where they didn't even teach it"}, {"start": "00:35:34", "end": "00:35:38", "text": "how to play Go. It just said play and"}, {"start": "00:35:36", "end": "00:35:40", "text": "we'll just tell you if you won or not"}, {"start": "00:35:38", "end": "00:35:41", "text": "and eventually it learned the rules."}, {"start": "00:35:40", "end": "00:35:42", "text": ">> So that's machine learning."}, {"start": "00:35:41", "end": "00:35:44", "text": ">> That's machine learning."}, {"start": "00:35:42", "end": "00:35:46", "text": ">> So that we got a kind of got a hint of"}, {"start": "00:35:44", "end": "00:35:47", "text": "that in I think it was 1985 with war"}, {"start": "00:35:46", "end": "00:35:50", "text": "games. Right. We're just playing"}, {"start": "00:35:47", "end": "00:35:51", "text": "tic-tac-toe over and it it's learning."}, {"start": "00:35:50", "end": "00:35:53", "text": ">> That's right. Yeah. That was a great"}, {"start": "00:35:51", "end": "00:35:56", "text": "fictional representation. That was a I"}, {"start": "00:35:53", "end": "00:35:56", "text": "think a era definfing movie for many of"}, {"start": "00:35:56", "end": "00:35:57", "text": "us."}, {"start": "00:35:56", "end": "00:36:00", "text": ">> Yeah. For me it was."}, {"start": "00:35:57", "end": "00:36:02", "text": ">> Yeah. I mean both you saw AI where it"}, {"start": "00:36:00", "end": "00:36:05", "text": "might end up and how it can learn from"}, {"start": "00:36:02", "end": "00:36:07", "text": "itself. Yes. And I think that's that's"}, {"start": "00:36:05", "end": "00:36:09", "text": "an important lesson. I wish they would"}, {"start": "00:36:07", "end": "00:36:11", "text": "have re-released the movie today,"}, {"start": "00:36:09", "end": "00:36:14", "text": "especially with autonomous weapons uh"}, {"start": "00:36:11", "end": "00:36:17", "text": "and the race for using AI within the"}, {"start": "00:36:14", "end": "00:36:19", "text": "military. I I'm less of a believer that"}, {"start": "00:36:17", "end": "00:36:24", "text": "AI will take over the world necessarily."}, {"start": "00:36:19", "end": "00:36:26", "text": ">> Uh but more that AI can be used for"}, {"start": "00:36:24", "end": "00:36:29", "text": "nefarious ends. uh whether it's"}, {"start": "00:36:26", "end": "00:36:32", "text": "censorship, whether it's automated, you"}, {"start": "00:36:29", "end": "00:36:35", "text": "know, uh autonomous drones that are"}, {"start": "00:36:32", "end": "00:36:36", "text": "basically killing people on behalf of"}, {"start": "00:36:35", "end": "00:36:37", "text": "other humans."}, {"start": "00:36:36", "end": "00:36:39", "text": ">> That's true."}, {"start": "00:36:37", "end": "00:36:42", "text": ">> We'll we'll get to that. That's that"}, {"start": "00:36:39", "end": "00:36:43", "text": "that's in here for sure. Um phone call,"}, {"start": "00:36:42", "end": "00:36:44", "text": "you got to come upstairs. You got to"}, {"start": "00:36:43", "end": "00:36:46", "text": "check this thing out."}, {"start": "00:36:44", "end": "00:36:48", "text": ">> Yeah. So, back to the story. Yeah. So,"}, {"start": "00:36:46", "end": "00:36:49", "text": "they they had built a whole VR sports"}, {"start": "00:36:48", "end": "00:36:51", "text": "suite. In fact, I think it was just"}, {"start": "00:36:49", "end": "00:36:53", "text": "called VR Sports. Uh and so they said,"}, {"start": "00:36:51", "end": "00:36:55", "text": "\"Try this on.\" And this was not like"}, {"start": "00:36:53", "end": "00:36:56", "text": "today's headsets, which they're still"}, {"start": "00:36:55", "end": "00:36:58", "text": "big and uncomfortable, but back then"}, {"start": "00:36:56", "end": "00:36:59", "text": "they were really big and uncomfortable."}, {"start": "00:36:58", "end": "00:37:00", "text": ">> Oh, they were worse."}, {"start": "00:36:59", "end": "00:37:02", "text": ">> They were worse. I mean, literally,"}, {"start": "00:37:00", "end": "00:37:04", "text": "there were wires coming from the"}, {"start": "00:37:02", "end": "00:37:05", "text": "ceiling, okay, onto the headset cuz this"}, {"start": "00:37:04", "end": "00:37:07", "text": "was there weren't even that many"}, {"start": "00:37:05", "end": "00:37:09", "text": "wireless headsets. In fact, I don't know"}, {"start": "00:37:07", "end": "00:37:11", "text": "if there were any. Oculus itself was you"}, {"start": "00:37:09", "end": "00:37:14", "text": "had to hook it up to a PC. This was the"}, {"start": "00:37:11", "end": "00:37:16", "text": "HTC Vive. So, I put on this headset and"}, {"start": "00:37:14", "end": "00:37:18", "text": "we used to joke that it was called a"}, {"start": "00:37:16", "end": "00:37:18", "text": "toaster on your face. It was like having"}, {"start": "00:37:18", "end": "00:37:20", "text": "a toaster on your face"}, {"start": "00:37:18", "end": "00:37:22", "text": ">> because it also got pretty hot. Yeah, it"}, {"start": "00:37:20", "end": "00:37:23", "text": "got pretty hot and it was just so big."}, {"start": "00:37:22", "end": "00:37:25", "text": "It was it was kind of heavy. In fact,"}, {"start": "00:37:23", "end": "00:37:28", "text": "okay, this is a random aside, but one of"}, {"start": "00:37:25", "end": "00:37:31", "text": "the first VR headsets ever built was by"}, {"start": "00:37:28", "end": "00:37:33", "text": "a guy named Ivan Sutherland back in 1968"}, {"start": "00:37:31", "end": "00:37:35", "text": "somewhere in I think at Harvard or in"}, {"start": "00:37:33", "end": "00:37:37", "text": "Massachusetts. And it was, you know,"}, {"start": "00:37:35", "end": "00:37:39", "text": "this big giant thing that you put on"}, {"start": "00:37:37", "end": "00:37:41", "text": "your head that was connected, not just"}, {"start": "00:37:39", "end": "00:37:42", "text": "with wires, but physically connected."}, {"start": "00:37:41", "end": "00:37:45", "text": "And they called it the sword of"}, {"start": "00:37:42", "end": "00:37:47", "text": "Damocles, which is like this old Greek"}, {"start": "00:37:45", "end": "00:37:48", "text": "myth that the sword's always above your"}, {"start": "00:37:47", "end": "00:37:50", "text": ">> above your head because it felt like it"}, {"start": "00:37:48", "end": "00:37:50", "text": "was going to snap your neck. It's so"}, {"start": "00:37:50", "end": "00:37:52", "text": "heavy."}, {"start": "00:37:50", "end": "00:37:54", "text": ">> I never heard of that. That's wild."}, {"start": "00:37:52", "end": "00:37:56", "text": ">> That was one of the first ever like real"}, {"start": "00:37:54", "end": "00:37:59", "text": "computerc controlled virtual reality"}, {"start": "00:37:56", "end": "00:38:01", "text": "type of things. Uh and and so in this"}, {"start": "00:37:59", "end": "00:38:03", "text": "case, it was pretty uncomfortable and I"}, {"start": "00:38:01", "end": "00:38:04", "text": "started to play this table tennis."}, {"start": "00:38:03", "end": "00:38:06", "text": ">> Now hold on. Before tennis,"}, {"start": "00:38:04", "end": "00:38:07", "text": ">> you put it on. Do you look around first"}, {"start": "00:38:06", "end": "00:38:08", "text": "and get a sense?"}, {"start": "00:38:07", "end": "00:38:10", "text": ">> Yeah, you look around."}, {"start": "00:38:08", "end": "00:38:12", "text": ">> So what are you thinking? like this is"}, {"start": "00:38:10", "end": "00:38:13", "text": "pretty good. Yeah. So, first of all, the"}, {"start": "00:38:12", "end": "00:38:14", "text": "the room was empty. It was actually"}, {"start": "00:38:13", "end": "00:38:15", "text": "about the size of this room."}, {"start": "00:38:14", "end": "00:38:17", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:38:15", "end": "00:38:20", "text": ">> Uh and I look over and there's like a"}, {"start": "00:38:17", "end": "00:38:21", "text": "pingpong table graphically. You can tell"}, {"start": "00:38:20", "end": "00:38:23", "text": "it was graphically generated. In fact, I"}, {"start": "00:38:21", "end": "00:38:26", "text": "have a a screenshot of it in my book,"}, {"start": "00:38:23", "end": "00:38:27", "text": "The Simulation Hypothesis. Uh and you"}, {"start": "00:38:26", "end": "00:38:29", "text": "can actually, you know, you saw it and"}, {"start": "00:38:27", "end": "00:38:30", "text": "then there was an opponent on the other"}, {"start": "00:38:29", "end": "00:38:33", "text": "side. Now, the opponent didn't look very"}, {"start": "00:38:30", "end": "00:38:36", "text": "realistic. It was just like a bunch of,"}, {"start": "00:38:33", "end": "00:38:39", "text": "you know, like circles and triangles and"}, {"start": "00:38:36", "end": "00:38:40", "text": "squares and stuff. Uh, and but they said"}, {"start": "00:38:39", "end": "00:38:42", "text": "here, you know, put the controller in"}, {"start": "00:38:40", "end": "00:38:44", "text": "your hand and you can start to play. And"}, {"start": "00:38:42", "end": "00:38:47", "text": "so the ball would come across and I"}, {"start": "00:38:44", "end": "00:38:49", "text": "would start to hit the ball. And the"}, {"start": "00:38:47", "end": "00:38:52", "text": "best thing about that game was the"}, {"start": "00:38:49", "end": "00:38:54", "text": "responsiveness of it. Like the physics"}, {"start": "00:38:52", "end": "00:38:57", "text": "engine was so good that if I like move"}, {"start": "00:38:54", "end": "00:38:59", "text": "my hand fast versus if I move my hand"}, {"start": "00:38:57", "end": "00:39:02", "text": "slow, the ball would go faster. It would"}, {"start": "00:38:59", "end": "00:39:03", "text": "shoot across or not shoot across."}, {"start": "00:39:02", "end": "00:39:05", "text": ">> And you weren't feeling latency."}, {"start": "00:39:03", "end": "00:39:07", "text": ">> It was there was no latency. That was"}, {"start": "00:39:05", "end": "00:39:08", "text": "the best part. There was latency in kind"}, {"start": "00:39:07", "end": "00:39:10", "text": "of the overall graphics of like that's"}, {"start": "00:39:08", "end": "00:39:11", "text": "why they had a very simple opponent."}, {"start": "00:39:10", "end": "00:39:11", "text": "They didn't have a photorealistic"}, {"start": "00:39:11", "end": "00:39:13", "text": "opponent."}, {"start": "00:39:11", "end": "00:39:15", "text": ">> The physics was dialed in."}, {"start": "00:39:13", "end": "00:39:16", "text": ">> The physics engine was really good and"}, {"start": "00:39:15", "end": "00:39:17", "text": "that's key for a sports game"}, {"start": "00:39:16", "end": "00:39:19", "text": ">> of course."}, {"start": "00:39:17", "end": "00:39:20", "text": ">> Yeah. Even for a shooter game it's it's"}, {"start": "00:39:19", "end": "00:39:23", "text": "key. You want to be able to figure out"}, {"start": "00:39:20", "end": "00:39:27", "text": "who shot first. But it was so realistic"}, {"start": "00:39:23", "end": "00:39:28", "text": "that for a few moments it fooled my body"}, {"start": "00:39:27", "end": "00:39:31", "text": "into thinking that I was playing a real"}, {"start": "00:39:28", "end": "00:39:32", "text": "game of table tennis. So much so that I"}, {"start": "00:39:31", "end": "00:39:34", "text": "decided to put the paddle down on the"}, {"start": "00:39:32", "end": "00:39:36", "text": "table and lean against the table just"}, {"start": "00:39:34", "end": "00:39:37", "text": "like this. really like I might do at the"}, {"start": "00:39:36", "end": "00:39:40", "text": "end of a game of table tennis. Now, of"}, {"start": "00:39:37", "end": "00:39:43", "text": "course, there was no table. It was an"}, {"start": "00:39:40", "end": "00:39:45", "text": "empty room. Um, and the the VR table was"}, {"start": "00:39:43", "end": "00:39:46", "text": "about this size, but uh it was an empty"}, {"start": "00:39:45", "end": "00:39:49", "text": "room. So, what happened was the"}, {"start": "00:39:46", "end": "00:39:50", "text": "controller fell to the floor and I"}, {"start": "00:39:49", "end": "00:39:51", "text": "almost fell over and I did a double"}, {"start": "00:39:50", "end": "00:39:53", "text": "take. I was like, whoa, wait, what just"}, {"start": "00:39:51", "end": "00:39:54", "text": "happened? Oh, of course. There's no"}, {"start": "00:39:53", "end": "00:39:56", "text": "table."}, {"start": "00:39:54", "end": "00:39:56", "text": ">> Did you hear cheers around you? Who was"}, {"start": "00:39:56", "end": "00:39:58", "text": "in the room?"}, {"start": "00:39:56", "end": "00:39:59", "text": ">> It was just like one or two other guys."}, {"start": "00:39:58", "end": "00:40:00", "text": "So, it wasn't like"}, {"start": "00:39:59", "end": "00:40:02", "text": ">> they had to give you the smile like you"}, {"start": "00:40:00", "end": "00:40:03", "text": "get it now, right?"}, {"start": "00:40:02", "end": "00:40:04", "text": "And it's the kind of thing you, you"}, {"start": "00:40:03", "end": "00:40:06", "text": "know, even back then you had to really"}, {"start": "00:40:04", "end": "00:40:08", "text": "just try on a headset in order to"}, {"start": "00:40:06", "end": "00:40:10", "text": "understand what's possible. Uh, and the"}, {"start": "00:40:08", "end": "00:40:11", "text": "headsets are still too big these days."}, {"start": "00:40:10", "end": "00:40:13", "text": "So, we're not kind of at the point of"}, {"start": "00:40:11", "end": "00:40:14", "text": "mass consumer adoption."}, {"start": "00:40:13", "end": "00:40:16", "text": ">> Getting there. Getting there."}, {"start": "00:40:14", "end": "00:40:18", "text": ">> Yeah, we're getting there. But that got"}, {"start": "00:40:16", "end": "00:40:20", "text": "me thinking. Um, and that's really what"}, {"start": "00:40:18", "end": "00:40:23", "text": "got me down this rabbit hole. And and"}, {"start": "00:40:20", "end": "00:40:25", "text": "that's one of several strands of"}, {"start": "00:40:23", "end": "00:40:27", "text": "thinking that got me down this rabbit"}, {"start": "00:40:25", "end": "00:40:30", "text": "hole. But I started to wonder how long"}, {"start": "00:40:27", "end": "00:40:33", "text": "would it take us to build a game or a"}, {"start": "00:40:30", "end": "00:40:35", "text": "virtual reality that was so realistic"}, {"start": "00:40:33", "end": "00:40:36", "text": "that we would forget not just for a"}, {"start": "00:40:35", "end": "00:40:38", "text": "couple of moments which is what happened"}, {"start": "00:40:36", "end": "00:40:40", "text": "to me. Obviously I knew it was a game"}, {"start": "00:40:38", "end": "00:40:42", "text": "but you would forget for an hour and"}, {"start": "00:40:40", "end": "00:40:44", "text": "then you would forget for a day and then"}, {"start": "00:40:42", "end": "00:40:46", "text": "could you forget like the Matrix"}, {"start": "00:40:44", "end": "00:40:48", "text": "basically where Neo had lived in this"}, {"start": "00:40:46", "end": "00:40:50", "text": "virtual reality his whole life and he"}, {"start": "00:40:48", "end": "00:40:52", "text": "didn't really know that he was in a"}, {"start": "00:40:50", "end": "00:40:55", "text": "virtual reality. So I I got down in the"}, {"start": "00:40:52", "end": "00:40:58", "text": "rabbit hole by looking at how technology"}, {"start": "00:40:55", "end": "00:41:00", "text": "might evolve over the next few decades."}, {"start": "00:40:58", "end": "00:41:01", "text": "Um and we can talk more about that if"}, {"start": "00:41:00", "end": "00:41:03", "text": "you like. It was called I called it the"}, {"start": "00:41:01", "end": "00:41:04", "text": "simulation point. But then I stepped"}, {"start": "00:41:03", "end": "00:41:06", "text": "back and I started looking at the"}, {"start": "00:41:04", "end": "00:41:08", "text": "quantum physics side of things."}, {"start": "00:41:06", "end": "00:41:09", "text": ">> Oh, we're going to get to that later."}, {"start": "00:41:08", "end": "00:41:11", "text": ">> Yeah. But no, I just want to summarize"}, {"start": "00:41:09", "end": "00:41:13", "text": "to say it turns out that quantum physics"}, {"start": "00:41:11", "end": "00:41:15", "text": "was telling us that the world isn't"}, {"start": "00:41:13", "end": "00:41:17", "text": "really as real as we think it is."}, {"start": "00:41:15", "end": "00:41:20", "text": ">> It's not. Uh and then I did a se another"}, {"start": "00:41:17", "end": "00:41:23", "text": "thread which was looking at the various"}, {"start": "00:41:20", "end": "00:41:25", "text": "religious and mystical traditions"}, {"start": "00:41:23", "end": "00:41:27", "text": ">> and I realized oh they're also telling"}, {"start": "00:41:25", "end": "00:41:29", "text": "us that the world is not really real at"}, {"start": "00:41:27", "end": "00:41:32", "text": "least not the way we think it is and I"}, {"start": "00:41:29", "end": "00:41:35", "text": "realized that there was a universal idea"}, {"start": "00:41:32", "end": "00:41:38", "text": "here that tied together Silicon Valley"}, {"start": "00:41:35", "end": "00:41:40", "text": "technology with a physics and science"}, {"start": "00:41:38", "end": "00:41:42", "text": "but looking at it from the point of view"}, {"start": "00:41:40", "end": "00:41:44", "text": "of an information based world or video"}, {"start": "00:41:42", "end": "00:41:46", "text": "game designer and mystical experiences"}, {"start": "00:41:44", "end": "00:41:48", "text": "which are the bas is for the world's"}, {"start": "00:41:46", "end": "00:41:51", "text": "religions. And so that's really what got"}, {"start": "00:41:48", "end": "00:41:53", "text": "me down to this rabbit hole in a big way"}, {"start": "00:41:51", "end": "00:41:55", "text": "and and writing the book as well."}, {"start": "00:41:53", "end": "00:41:58", "text": ">> This is a perfect segue to my next"}, {"start": "00:41:55", "end": "00:42:00", "text": "question is you were sort of living a"}, {"start": "00:41:58", "end": "00:42:02", "text": "double life because you were going to"}, {"start": "00:42:00", "end": "00:42:05", "text": "the Monroe Institute."}, {"start": "00:42:02", "end": "00:42:08", "text": ">> You were do learning meditation drum"}, {"start": "00:42:05", "end": "00:42:09", "text": "drum circle what I mean all this kind of"}, {"start": "00:42:08", "end": "00:42:10", "text": "stuff."}, {"start": "00:42:09", "end": "00:42:12", "text": ">> Yeah. So what happened was when I was an"}, {"start": "00:42:10", "end": "00:42:14", "text": "entrepreneur back in the 90s is when I"}, {"start": "00:42:12", "end": "00:42:16", "text": "did my first startup pretty much as soon"}, {"start": "00:42:14", "end": "00:42:17", "text": "as I graduated like within a year."}, {"start": "00:42:16", "end": "00:42:19", "text": ">> So most of my career has been as an"}, {"start": "00:42:17", "end": "00:42:22", "text": "entrepreneur. So during the day I would"}, {"start": "00:42:19", "end": "00:42:26", "text": "deal with things like you know code"}, {"start": "00:42:22", "end": "00:42:28", "text": "reviews right builds engineers managing"}, {"start": "00:42:26", "end": "00:42:31", "text": "engineers hiring salespeople which"}, {"start": "00:42:28", "end": "00:42:34", "text": "really sucks if you're like a technical"}, {"start": "00:42:31", "end": "00:42:36", "text": "guy uh and investors and customers. And"}, {"start": "00:42:34", "end": "00:42:38", "text": "a lot of our customers were big Fortune"}, {"start": "00:42:36", "end": "00:42:41", "text": "5000 companies back in the day. And this"}, {"start": "00:42:38", "end": "00:42:43", "text": "was in Boston. So it was actually you"}, {"start": "00:42:41", "end": "00:42:45", "text": "much more conservative in the financial"}, {"start": "00:42:43", "end": "00:42:46", "text": "industry than like say in Silicon Valley"}, {"start": "00:42:45", "end": "00:42:49", "text": "where the guys were sitting around"}, {"start": "00:42:46", "end": "00:42:50", "text": "smoking weed you know as part of their"}, {"start": "00:42:49", "end": "00:42:53", "text": "startups like that wasn't happening in"}, {"start": "00:42:50", "end": "00:42:55", "text": "enterprise software startups uh in"}, {"start": "00:42:53", "end": "00:42:56", "text": "Boston. But at the same time I started"}, {"start": "00:42:55", "end": "00:42:58", "text": "to learn about different types of"}, {"start": "00:42:56", "end": "00:43:00", "text": "meditation techniques and I started to"}, {"start": "00:42:58", "end": "00:43:00", "text": "explore different aspects of"}, {"start": "00:43:00", "end": "00:43:02", "text": "consciousness."}, {"start": "00:43:00", "end": "00:43:04", "text": ">> What drew you to that? You know, I've"}, {"start": "00:43:02", "end": "00:43:07", "text": "always had a bit of an interest in it,"}, {"start": "00:43:04", "end": "00:43:08", "text": "but I I will say that initially I just"}, {"start": "00:43:07", "end": "00:43:10", "text": "thought, hey, if I can learn to"}, {"start": "00:43:08", "end": "00:43:11", "text": "meditate, I can be a better computer"}, {"start": "00:43:10", "end": "00:43:12", "text": "programmer because then I can"}, {"start": "00:43:11", "end": "00:43:12", "text": "concentrate."}, {"start": "00:43:12", "end": "00:43:14", "text": ">> Of course,"}, {"start": "00:43:12", "end": "00:43:17", "text": ">> I can be a better entrepreneur because I"}, {"start": "00:43:14", "end": "00:43:18", "text": "can visualize what I'm trying to build."}, {"start": "00:43:17", "end": "00:43:20", "text": "But then the more you got into it, the"}, {"start": "00:43:18", "end": "00:43:22", "text": "more you realize that it's not so much"}, {"start": "00:43:20", "end": "00:43:24", "text": "about that stuff, right? It's not about"}, {"start": "00:43:22", "end": "00:43:26", "text": "the selfish thing. And what what I"}, {"start": "00:43:24", "end": "00:43:28", "text": "eventually got to realize, and I wrote"}, {"start": "00:43:26", "end": "00:43:30", "text": "my first book, it was called Zen"}, {"start": "00:43:28", "end": "00:43:32", "text": "Entrepreneurship about this time when I"}, {"start": "00:43:30", "end": "00:43:34", "text": "was living this double life. And like"}, {"start": "00:43:32", "end": "00:43:35", "text": "every chapter, you know, one chapter is"}, {"start": "00:43:34", "end": "00:43:37", "text": "about a problem we had with our startup"}, {"start": "00:43:35", "end": "00:43:40", "text": "and, you know, the customer canceling on"}, {"start": "00:43:37", "end": "00:43:42", "text": "us and the the next is about me jetting"}, {"start": "00:43:40", "end": "00:43:44", "text": "off to the Monroe Institute, you know,"}, {"start": "00:43:42", "end": "00:43:48", "text": "for a week to try to do auto body"}, {"start": "00:43:44", "end": "00:43:49", "text": "experiences or I I started doing lucid"}, {"start": "00:43:48", "end": "00:43:50", "text": "dreaming."}, {"start": "00:43:49", "end": "00:43:52", "text": ">> Um, and there was a guy named Carlos"}, {"start": "00:43:50", "end": "00:43:54", "text": ">> Castana"}, {"start": "00:43:52", "end": "00:43:54", "text": ">> who wrote about this way back in the"}, {"start": "00:43:54", "end": "00:43:55", "text": "70s."}, {"start": "00:43:54", "end": "00:43:56", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "00:43:55", "end": "00:43:57", "text": ">> A lot of lot of young people today have"}, {"start": "00:43:56", "end": "00:43:58", "text": "no idea who he is."}, {"start": "00:43:57", "end": "00:44:00", "text": ">> They should learn."}, {"start": "00:43:58", "end": "00:44:02", "text": ">> They should learn. and he was on the"}, {"start": "00:44:00", "end": "00:44:04", "text": "cover of Time magazine, which okay, Time"}, {"start": "00:44:02", "end": "00:44:05", "text": "magazine would be like, I don't know"}, {"start": "00:44:04", "end": "00:44:06", "text": "what would it be. It'd be like"}, {"start": "00:44:05", "end": "00:44:08", "text": ">> We don't have those anymore."}, {"start": "00:44:06", "end": "00:44:10", "text": ">> We don't have those anymore, right? It'd"}, {"start": "00:44:08", "end": "00:44:11", "text": "be like being, you know, Joe Rogan's top"}, {"start": "00:44:10", "end": "00:44:13", "text": "guest for the year, something like that"}, {"start": "00:44:11", "end": "00:44:16", "text": "this year. I I don't know what you you"}, {"start": "00:44:13", "end": "00:44:17", "text": "would put in today's terms. Uh but"}, {"start": "00:44:16", "end": "00:44:19", "text": "basically, you he was called the"}, {"start": "00:44:17", "end": "00:44:21", "text": "grandfather of the new age movement, and"}, {"start": "00:44:19", "end": "00:44:22", "text": "he talked a lot about initially about"}, {"start": "00:44:21", "end": "00:44:24", "text": "psychedelics. Y"}, {"start": "00:44:22", "end": "00:44:26", "text": ">> but eventually he was talking about"}, {"start": "00:44:24", "end": "00:44:28", "text": "dreaming and different states of"}, {"start": "00:44:26", "end": "00:44:30", "text": "consciousness. Some people there's some"}, {"start": "00:44:28", "end": "00:44:31", "text": "controversy about did he really find a"}, {"start": "00:44:30", "end": "00:44:34", "text": "Mexican shaman that taught him this or"}, {"start": "00:44:31", "end": "00:44:35", "text": "is he borrowing other people's ideas."}, {"start": "00:44:34", "end": "00:44:37", "text": "But the interesting part of his"}, {"start": "00:44:35", "end": "00:44:39", "text": "teachings for me were were about his"}, {"start": "00:44:37", "end": "00:44:41", "text": "dream experiences which it almost didn't"}, {"start": "00:44:39", "end": "00:44:43", "text": "matter if he was imagining this while he"}, {"start": "00:44:41", "end": "00:44:44", "text": "was in on psychedelics or while he was"}, {"start": "00:44:43", "end": "00:44:47", "text": "dreaming because that's what it was all"}, {"start": "00:44:44", "end": "00:44:48", "text": "about. But it was real realizing there's"}, {"start": "00:44:47", "end": "00:44:49", "text": "something different about our reality."}, {"start": "00:44:48", "end": "00:44:51", "text": "Mhm."}, {"start": "00:44:49", "end": "00:44:53", "text": ">> This really got me into thinking about"}, {"start": "00:44:51", "end": "00:44:55", "text": "alternate models because Okay, I'll give"}, {"start": "00:44:53", "end": "00:44:56", "text": "you a startup example because I know"}, {"start": "00:44:55", "end": "00:45:00", "text": "you've been in the computer startup"}, {"start": "00:44:56", "end": "00:45:03", "text": "world. One day I had a dream about this"}, {"start": "00:45:00", "end": "00:45:04", "text": "competitor of ours and I was like,"}, {"start": "00:45:03", "end": "00:45:07", "text": "that's odd. I've never dreamed of this"}, {"start": "00:45:04", "end": "00:45:09", "text": "guy before. One, never. Two, I hadn't"}, {"start": "00:45:07", "end": "00:45:10", "text": "even heard from him or his company."}, {"start": "00:45:09", "end": "00:45:11", "text": ">> Is this Mark?"}, {"start": "00:45:10", "end": "00:45:12", "text": ">> Yeah, this is a guy named Mark."}, {"start": "00:45:11", "end": "00:45:14", "text": ">> Okay, I like this story."}, {"start": "00:45:12", "end": "00:45:16", "text": ">> Okay, so it was a guy named Mark. He had"}, {"start": "00:45:14", "end": "00:45:17", "text": "a company called Edge Research and I had"}, {"start": "00:45:16", "end": "00:45:19", "text": "a dream where I was in a business"}, {"start": "00:45:17", "end": "00:45:20", "text": "conference and I started chatting with"}, {"start": "00:45:19", "end": "00:45:22", "text": "him about it and I woke up I thought"}, {"start": "00:45:20", "end": "00:45:24", "text": "that's weird like why am I dreaming"}, {"start": "00:45:22", "end": "00:45:27", "text": "about this guy? We haven't heard from"}, {"start": "00:45:24", "end": "00:45:29", "text": "his his company for a year and we we had"}, {"start": "00:45:27", "end": "00:45:31", "text": "software that was connecting IBM"}, {"start": "00:45:29", "end": "00:45:33", "text": "products to Microsoft and Oracle"}, {"start": "00:45:31", "end": "00:45:35", "text": "products. So we were like a big partner"}, {"start": "00:45:33", "end": "00:45:36", "text": "of IBM back in those days using a"}, {"start": "00:45:35", "end": "00:45:38", "text": "product called Lotus Notes. probably too"}, {"start": "00:45:36", "end": "00:45:41", "text": "much information for the audience there,"}, {"start": "00:45:38", "end": "00:45:44", "text": "but uh basically I went in the office"}, {"start": "00:45:41", "end": "00:45:46", "text": "that day and I get a call like right in"}, {"start": "00:45:44", "end": "00:45:48", "text": "the morning from a product manager at"}, {"start": "00:45:46", "end": "00:45:50", "text": "IBM and he says, \"Oh, hey, we're going"}, {"start": "00:45:48", "end": "00:45:52", "text": "to do a big announcement today and I"}, {"start": "00:45:50", "end": "00:45:53", "text": "just want to tell you, let you know"}, {"start": "00:45:52", "end": "00:45:55", "text": "because you've been a good partner to"}, {"start": "00:45:53", "end": "00:45:56", "text": "us, but this new product we're going to"}, {"start": "00:45:55", "end": "00:45:59", "text": "release is probably going to kill your"}, {"start": "00:45:56", "end": "00:46:01", "text": "product.\" I was like, \"Great. Okay,"}, {"start": "00:45:59", "end": "00:46:02", "text": "thanks.\" uh because we had a product"}, {"start": "00:46:01", "end": "00:46:05", "text": "that you know worked with their on top"}, {"start": "00:46:02", "end": "00:46:06", "text": "of their product and I said well how"}, {"start": "00:46:05", "end": "00:46:08", "text": "come I've never heard of this product"}, {"start": "00:46:06", "end": "00:46:08", "text": "before because I mean IBM's a big"}, {"start": "00:46:08", "end": "00:46:09", "text": "company"}, {"start": "00:46:08", "end": "00:46:12", "text": ">> sure"}, {"start": "00:46:09", "end": "00:46:13", "text": ">> I'm sure it would have leaked somehow"}, {"start": "00:46:12", "end": "00:46:14", "text": "he's like oh do you remember that"}, {"start": "00:46:13", "end": "00:46:16", "text": "competitor of yours Mark who had this"}, {"start": "00:46:14", "end": "00:46:18", "text": "company called Edge Research we bought"}, {"start": "00:46:16", "end": "00:46:19", "text": "them like a year and a half ago and"}, {"start": "00:46:18", "end": "00:46:21", "text": "they've been working on it in secret up"}, {"start": "00:46:19", "end": "00:46:23", "text": "in New Hampshire and now we're going to"}, {"start": "00:46:21", "end": "00:46:26", "text": "do the big announcement today I thought"}, {"start": "00:46:23", "end": "00:46:29", "text": "okay that's weird I had the dream in the"}, {"start": "00:46:26", "end": "00:46:30", "text": "morning the phone call came after right"}, {"start": "00:46:29", "end": "00:46:31", "text": "some People think, \"Oh, it's not a big"}, {"start": "00:46:30", "end": "00:46:32", "text": "deal because it happened the other way"}, {"start": "00:46:31", "end": "00:46:35", "text": "around.\" No. No."}, {"start": "00:46:32", "end": "00:46:38", "text": ">> The dream came first out of nowhere. It"}, {"start": "00:46:35", "end": "00:46:41", "text": "was almost like a a precognitive sense,"}, {"start": "00:46:38", "end": "00:46:43", "text": "right? That this guy was going to show"}, {"start": "00:46:41", "end": "00:46:45", "text": "up again today in some significant way."}, {"start": "00:46:43", "end": "00:46:47", "text": ">> I believe it was What was the dream?"}, {"start": "00:46:45", "end": "00:46:49", "text": ">> The dream was just was not that it was"}, {"start": "00:46:47", "end": "00:46:51", "text": "more like I was at a conference like I"}, {"start": "00:46:49", "end": "00:46:53", "text": "used to go to and he was at one of the"}, {"start": "00:46:51", "end": "00:46:54", "text": "booths and I was asking him, \"Hey, we"}, {"start": "00:46:53", "end": "00:46:55", "text": "haven't seen you in a while. What have"}, {"start": "00:46:54", "end": "00:46:56", "text": "you been working on?\" And you know, we"}, {"start": "00:46:55", "end": "00:46:58", "text": "were just having that kind of a"}, {"start": "00:46:56", "end": "00:47:00", "text": "conversation that you might have with"}, {"start": "00:46:58", "end": "00:47:02", "text": "somebody who's in your industry. Uh but"}, {"start": "00:47:00", "end": "00:47:03", "text": "he was ky about something in the dream."}, {"start": "00:47:02", "end": "00:47:05", "text": ">> He was,"}, {"start": "00:47:03", "end": "00:47:07", "text": ">> but he was always ky. So, okay, as I"}, {"start": "00:47:05", "end": "00:47:09", "text": "recall, you know, this is 30 years ago"}, {"start": "00:47:07", "end": "00:47:11", "text": "now. So, we're we're getting into uh"}, {"start": "00:47:09", "end": "00:47:14", "text": "details I may not even get right. But,"}, {"start": "00:47:11", "end": "00:47:16", "text": "but I do remember being a little ky"}, {"start": "00:47:14", "end": "00:47:18", "text": "and it was sort of par for the course"}, {"start": "00:47:16", "end": "00:47:19", "text": "because when we had built our product,"}, {"start": "00:47:18", "end": "00:47:20", "text": "our first product and announced it, he"}, {"start": "00:47:19", "end": "00:47:23", "text": "had called me and he was being a little"}, {"start": "00:47:20", "end": "00:47:24", "text": "bit ky. and he was asking me about it"}, {"start": "00:47:23", "end": "00:47:28", "text": "and didn't tell us he was going to have"}, {"start": "00:47:24", "end": "00:47:31", "text": "a competitor so a competitive product."}, {"start": "00:47:28", "end": "00:47:33", "text": "uh but but but that to me was one of"}, {"start": "00:47:31", "end": "00:47:37", "text": "many wakeup calls that I had around"}, {"start": "00:47:33", "end": "00:47:40", "text": "dreams uh and the nature of reality that"}, {"start": "00:47:37", "end": "00:47:42", "text": "in fact we may be getting clues about"}, {"start": "00:47:40", "end": "00:47:46", "text": "things that haven't happened yet and our"}, {"start": "00:47:42", "end": "00:47:49", "text": "idea of time as being linear uh may not"}, {"start": "00:47:46", "end": "00:47:52", "text": "be correct and only getting information"}, {"start": "00:47:49", "end": "00:47:54", "text": "from a materialistic point of view may"}, {"start": "00:47:52", "end": "00:47:56", "text": "not be correct either. There may be"}, {"start": "00:47:54", "end": "00:47:59", "text": "other ways to get information. Uh so"}, {"start": "00:47:56", "end": "00:48:02", "text": "that was one example. You know once I"}, {"start": "00:47:59", "end": "00:48:04", "text": "ended up you know lucid dreaming uh and"}, {"start": "00:48:02", "end": "00:48:06", "text": "said hey let me go visit you know my"}, {"start": "00:48:04", "end": "00:48:09", "text": "girlfriend uh at the time who's still my"}, {"start": "00:48:06", "end": "00:48:10", "text": "partner now uh in Cambridge. I was like"}, {"start": "00:48:09", "end": "00:48:12", "text": "let me fly over to her apartment. And I"}, {"start": "00:48:10", "end": "00:48:15", "text": "looked over there in the living room and"}, {"start": "00:48:12", "end": "00:48:17", "text": "there was this weird light on the couch"}, {"start": "00:48:15", "end": "00:48:19", "text": "and I thought that's weird cuz you know"}, {"start": "00:48:17", "end": "00:48:20", "text": "it's the middle of the night should"}, {"start": "00:48:19", "end": "00:48:22", "text": "probably be sleeping in the bedroom. Uh"}, {"start": "00:48:20", "end": "00:48:23", "text": "but there was this weird light on the"}, {"start": "00:48:22", "end": "00:48:25", "text": "couch and I didn't really think much of"}, {"start": "00:48:23", "end": "00:48:28", "text": "it cuz then the lucid dream goes away."}, {"start": "00:48:25", "end": "00:48:29", "text": "So, if you've ever tried lucid dreaming,"}, {"start": "00:48:28", "end": "00:48:31", "text": ">> it's hard to stay in it."}, {"start": "00:48:29", "end": "00:48:33", "text": ">> It's hard to stay lucid and it just goes"}, {"start": "00:48:31", "end": "00:48:34", "text": "away. And then I I told her about it the"}, {"start": "00:48:33", "end": "00:48:35", "text": "next day and she said, \"Oh yeah, I was"}, {"start": "00:48:34", "end": "00:48:36", "text": "sleeping on a couch last night.\""}, {"start": "00:48:35", "end": "00:48:37", "text": ">> Whoa."}, {"start": "00:48:36", "end": "00:48:39", "text": ">> And I would have these little"}, {"start": "00:48:37", "end": "00:48:41", "text": "confirmations like that like like I"}, {"start": "00:48:39", "end": "00:48:43", "text": "would be flying around Cambridge and"}, {"start": "00:48:41", "end": "00:48:47", "text": "they had all these ultra realistic"}, {"start": "00:48:43", "end": "00:48:49", "text": "glass, you know, high skyscraper type"}, {"start": "00:48:47", "end": "00:48:50", "text": "buildings, but we didn't have that many"}, {"start": "00:48:49", "end": "00:48:52", "text": "back then. I remember thinking, \"Okay,"}, {"start": "00:48:50", "end": "00:48:53", "text": "what what's going on here?\" And then"}, {"start": "00:48:52", "end": "00:48:55", "text": "recently I went on a trip back to"}, {"start": "00:48:53", "end": "00:48:56", "text": "Cambridge because I still have a place"}, {"start": "00:48:55", "end": "00:48:58", "text": "there. And if you go to Kendall Square"}, {"start": "00:48:56", "end": "00:49:00", "text": "now, which is just outside of MIT,"}, {"start": "00:48:58", "end": "00:49:02", "text": "they've got all these tall skyscrapers"}, {"start": "00:49:00", "end": "00:49:02", "text": "that are like these glass buildings and"}, {"start": "00:49:02", "end": "00:49:03", "text": "stuff."}, {"start": "00:49:02", "end": "00:49:05", "text": ">> So you were seeing the future."}, {"start": "00:49:03", "end": "00:49:06", "text": ">> It might have like It's hard to say"}, {"start": "00:49:05", "end": "00:49:08", "text": "because I don't remember exactly what"}, {"start": "00:49:06", "end": "00:49:09", "text": "the buildings look like, but it was"}, {"start": "00:49:08", "end": "00:49:10", "text": "definitely the tenure of the the tenor"}, {"start": "00:49:09", "end": "00:49:12", "text": "of the future."}, {"start": "00:49:10", "end": "00:49:13", "text": ">> Well, at at Monroe, were you able to get"}, {"start": "00:49:12", "end": "00:49:15", "text": "out of body?"}, {"start": "00:49:13", "end": "00:49:18", "text": ">> So I tried it. So the Monroe Institute,"}, {"start": "00:49:15", "end": "00:49:19", "text": "they did um they did hemisync."}, {"start": "00:49:18", "end": "00:49:21", "text": ">> Hemisync. What it does is it puts in"}, {"start": "00:49:19", "end": "00:49:23", "text": "like different rhythm beats and it gets"}, {"start": "00:49:21", "end": "00:49:25", "text": "your brain into a certain rhythm. Yep."}, {"start": "00:49:23", "end": "00:49:28", "text": ">> Um I found that it wasn't quite working"}, {"start": "00:49:25", "end": "00:49:32", "text": "for me to get out of my body. But I did"}, {"start": "00:49:28", "end": "00:49:34", "text": "have an actual experience where I was uh"}, {"start": "00:49:32", "end": "00:49:36", "text": "what I today I would call a shamanic"}, {"start": "00:49:34", "end": "00:49:38", "text": "journey. So later I learned uh how to do"}, {"start": "00:49:36", "end": "00:49:40", "text": "this with just drumming and just"}, {"start": "00:49:38", "end": "00:49:42", "text": "breathing. You can get into an altered"}, {"start": "00:49:40", "end": "00:49:44", "text": "state and you can have you can do what"}, {"start": "00:49:42", "end": "00:49:46", "text": "shamans do which is they they have"}, {"start": "00:49:44", "end": "00:49:47", "text": "almost like a visualization that you're"}, {"start": "00:49:46", "end": "00:49:49", "text": "aware you're doing something in another"}, {"start": "00:49:47", "end": "00:49:51", "text": "reality but you're also aware of your"}, {"start": "00:49:49", "end": "00:49:52", "text": "physical body. So this is the experience"}, {"start": "00:49:51", "end": "00:49:55", "text": "that I had at the mineral institute"}, {"start": "00:49:52", "end": "00:49:57", "text": "where I I I saw this guy kind of looked"}, {"start": "00:49:55", "end": "00:50:00", "text": "a little bit like me brown guy but he"}, {"start": "00:49:57", "end": "00:50:02", "text": "had a beard and he was a sadu sitting"}, {"start": "00:50:00", "end": "00:50:04", "text": "against a tree who knows maybe in in"}, {"start": "00:50:02", "end": "00:50:06", "text": "India somewhere like years ago. I"}, {"start": "00:50:04", "end": "00:50:08", "text": "thought, hey, this is interesting. And"}, {"start": "00:50:06", "end": "00:50:09", "text": "and I felt somehow connected to this"}, {"start": "00:50:08", "end": "00:50:11", "text": "guy. And so this is like a vision I'm"}, {"start": "00:50:09", "end": "00:50:12", "text": "having while I'm in, you know, with a"}, {"start": "00:50:11", "end": "00:50:14", "text": "hemisync."}, {"start": "00:50:12", "end": "00:50:15", "text": ">> How present are you in the real world?"}, {"start": "00:50:14", "end": "00:50:16", "text": "Are you like, \"Oh my god, this is"}, {"start": "00:50:15", "end": "00:50:18", "text": "happening.\""}, {"start": "00:50:16", "end": "00:50:20", "text": ">> I I I was present where I I was still"}, {"start": "00:50:18", "end": "00:50:22", "text": "aware of my body, but it was enough. And"}, {"start": "00:50:20", "end": "00:50:24", "text": "this is for me,"}, {"start": "00:50:22", "end": "00:50:24", "text": ">> this is very close to what happens with"}, {"start": "00:50:24", "end": "00:50:25", "text": "shamanic journey."}, {"start": "00:50:24", "end": "00:50:27", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:50:25", "end": "00:50:29", "text": ">> It's you you're aware that there's some"}, {"start": "00:50:27", "end": "00:50:30", "text": "other reality really, something"}, {"start": "00:50:29", "end": "00:50:32", "text": "happening there. You're still aware of"}, {"start": "00:50:30", "end": "00:50:33", "text": "your body, but it's almost like you're"}, {"start": "00:50:32", "end": "00:50:35", "text": "not paying attention to your body. Is"}, {"start": "00:50:33", "end": "00:50:36", "text": "this like samadei?"}, {"start": "00:50:35", "end": "00:50:38", "text": ">> No, it's not quite samati. This is more"}, {"start": "00:50:36", "end": "00:50:41", "text": "like you're leaving your consciousness"}, {"start": "00:50:38", "end": "00:50:42", "text": "is leaving your body and going somewhere"}, {"start": "00:50:41", "end": "00:50:45", "text": "else. But it's not like a full lot of"}, {"start": "00:50:42", "end": "00:50:47", "text": "other experiences. It's like just a part"}, {"start": "00:50:45", "end": "00:50:47", "text": "of you is is going out to this other"}, {"start": "00:50:47", "end": "00:50:49", "text": "place."}, {"start": "00:50:47", "end": "00:50:51", "text": ">> This other place could be a real place."}, {"start": "00:50:49", "end": "00:50:53", "text": "It could be an imaginary place."}, {"start": "00:50:51", "end": "00:50:55", "text": ">> It could be a place where multiple"}, {"start": "00:50:53", "end": "00:50:56", "text": "people can validate things. I'll tell"}, {"start": "00:50:55", "end": "00:50:58", "text": "you about that in a second. So, we used"}, {"start": "00:50:56", "end": "00:51:00", "text": "to have those kind of experiences too."}, {"start": "00:50:58", "end": "00:51:02", "text": "But in this case, the guy was sitting"}, {"start": "00:51:00", "end": "00:51:03", "text": "against a tree kind of like I am now,"}, {"start": "00:51:02", "end": "00:51:05", "text": "but maybe leaning back a little bit"}, {"start": "00:51:03", "end": "00:51:06", "text": "more. And he's like, \"You're doing it"}, {"start": "00:51:05", "end": "00:51:08", "text": "all wrong. What do you mean I'm doing it"}, {"start": "00:51:06", "end": "00:51:09", "text": "all wrong?\" He goes, \"Look, if you want"}, {"start": "00:51:08", "end": "00:51:11", "text": "to get out of your body, don't you"}, {"start": "00:51:09", "end": "00:51:12", "text": "remember? You learned this like in a"}, {"start": "00:51:11", "end": "00:51:15", "text": "past life or something.\" He goes, \"This"}, {"start": "00:51:12", "end": "00:51:16", "text": "is what you do. You don't lay down. You"}, {"start": "00:51:15", "end": "00:51:18", "text": "like sit against because if you lay"}, {"start": "00:51:16", "end": "00:51:19", "text": "down, you go to sleep. You sit back"}, {"start": "00:51:18", "end": "00:51:21", "text": "against a tree.\" That's what he was"}, {"start": "00:51:19", "end": "00:51:22", "text": "doing. This is like I don't know how"}, {"start": "00:51:21", "end": "00:51:25", "text": "many years ago this was, if it was even"}, {"start": "00:51:22", "end": "00:51:27", "text": "real. And he goes, \"You go up to your"}, {"start": "00:51:25", "end": "00:51:29", "text": "third eye.\" And I could like at that"}, {"start": "00:51:27", "end": "00:51:31", "text": "point I could be I felt like I was him"}, {"start": "00:51:29", "end": "00:51:33", "text": "for a second and you would leave your"}, {"start": "00:51:31", "end": "00:51:35", "text": "third eye and you would go out and then"}, {"start": "00:51:33", "end": "00:51:37", "text": "you would come back and and when you"}, {"start": "00:51:35", "end": "00:51:39", "text": "left I could see him like you know"}, {"start": "00:51:37", "end": "00:51:40", "text": "sitting his body sitting there. He's"}, {"start": "00:51:39", "end": "00:51:41", "text": "like that's how you're supposed to do"}, {"start": "00:51:40", "end": "00:51:42", "text": "it."}, {"start": "00:51:41", "end": "00:51:43", "text": ">> You saw that?"}, {"start": "00:51:42", "end": "00:51:44", "text": ">> I saw that in my vision, right?"}, {"start": "00:51:43", "end": "00:51:45", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:51:44", "end": "00:51:47", "text": ">> And I was like that's wild. And there"}, {"start": "00:51:45", "end": "00:51:49", "text": "was a time after that when I got back"}, {"start": "00:51:47", "end": "00:51:51", "text": "home where I was sitting at a desk"}, {"start": "00:51:49", "end": "00:51:52", "text": "coding or something and it was the"}, {"start": "00:51:51", "end": "00:51:54", "text": "middle of the afternoon. You know you"}, {"start": "00:51:52", "end": "00:51:56", "text": "get the you get tired in the afternoon."}, {"start": "00:51:54", "end": "00:51:58", "text": "I started to doze off and I remembered"}, {"start": "00:51:56", "end": "00:52:00", "text": "this and I went up and I and I basically"}, {"start": "00:51:58", "end": "00:52:02", "text": "went out of my body and I saw my"}, {"start": "00:52:00", "end": "00:52:03", "text": "physical body and then I came back. But"}, {"start": "00:52:02", "end": "00:52:05", "text": "for me what what happened in these"}, {"start": "00:52:03", "end": "00:52:07", "text": "dreams is I would just wake up somewhere"}, {"start": "00:52:05", "end": "00:52:09", "text": "else like in a lucid dream that became"}, {"start": "00:52:07", "end": "00:52:11", "text": "an out-of- body experience. Rarely have"}, {"start": "00:52:09", "end": "00:52:12", "text": "I had the kind of experience where"}, {"start": "00:52:11", "end": "00:52:14", "text": "somebody actually just sees themselves"}, {"start": "00:52:12", "end": "00:52:17", "text": "sleeping in the bed."}, {"start": "00:52:14", "end": "00:52:18", "text": ">> And you you brought up that uh you had"}, {"start": "00:52:17", "end": "00:52:19", "text": "out-of- body experiences with other"}, {"start": "00:52:18", "end": "00:52:22", "text": "people."}, {"start": "00:52:19", "end": "00:52:25", "text": ">> Yeah. So what happened was after that I"}, {"start": "00:52:22", "end": "00:52:27", "text": "found uh an easier way for me to do that"}, {"start": "00:52:25", "end": "00:52:29", "text": "was uh using shamanic drumming. So I"}, {"start": "00:52:27", "end": "00:52:30", "text": "studied with a guy named Robert Moss who"}, {"start": "00:52:29", "end": "00:52:32", "text": "wrote a book called Conscious Dreaming."}, {"start": "00:52:30", "end": "00:52:35", "text": "Uh really interesting guy, Australian"}, {"start": "00:52:32", "end": "00:52:39", "text": "guy who somehow has gotten tied into all"}, {"start": "00:52:35", "end": "00:52:41", "text": "these Aboriginal and uh Iraqua and"}, {"start": "00:52:39", "end": "00:52:42", "text": "Native American dream practices and he"}, {"start": "00:52:41", "end": "00:52:45", "text": "kind of pulled it together. And so we"}, {"start": "00:52:42", "end": "00:52:46", "text": "would get into a group and you know"}, {"start": "00:52:45", "end": "00:52:48", "text": "somebody would do drumming. It's a"}, {"start": "00:52:46", "end": "00:52:49", "text": "certain beat of the drumming and anybody"}, {"start": "00:52:48", "end": "00:52:51", "text": "can look it up. Look up shamanic"}, {"start": "00:52:49", "end": "00:52:54", "text": "journey. You'll see what the beat is."}, {"start": "00:52:51", "end": "00:52:55", "text": "It's like a dut. And what it does, it's"}, {"start": "00:52:54", "end": "00:52:59", "text": "very similar to the binaural beat."}, {"start": "00:52:55", "end": "00:53:00", "text": ">> Oh, okay. It puts your mind and your uh"}, {"start": "00:52:59", "end": "00:53:02", "text": "breathing and your uh"}, {"start": "00:53:00", "end": "00:53:04", "text": ">> Oh, it's frequency related."}, {"start": "00:53:02", "end": "00:53:06", "text": ">> Frequency related. Yeah. So, it puts you"}, {"start": "00:53:04", "end": "00:53:08", "text": "into kind of this altered state and then"}, {"start": "00:53:06", "end": "00:53:09", "text": "you you basically have an intention that"}, {"start": "00:53:08", "end": "00:53:12", "text": "says, \"Hey, let's all"}, {"start": "00:53:09", "end": "00:53:13", "text": ">> go to, you know, RZ had this weird dream"}, {"start": "00:53:12", "end": "00:53:15", "text": "last night at a business conference."}, {"start": "00:53:13", "end": "00:53:18", "text": "Let's all see what we can do.\" And we"}, {"start": "00:53:15", "end": "00:53:19", "text": "would all go into there and try to, you"}, {"start": "00:53:18", "end": "00:53:20", "text": "know, we'd all look around and then we'd"}, {"start": "00:53:19", "end": "00:53:22", "text": "come back and say, \"Hey, what did you"}, {"start": "00:53:20", "end": "00:53:24", "text": "see?\" \"Hey, what did you see?\" And every"}, {"start": "00:53:22", "end": "00:53:26", "text": "now and then there would be like a lot"}, {"start": "00:53:24", "end": "00:53:28", "text": "of correlation. And you know, I have a"}, {"start": "00:53:26", "end": "00:53:28", "text": "skeptical engineer side."}, {"start": "00:53:28", "end": "00:53:30", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "00:53:28", "end": "00:53:32", "text": ">> As well as this kind of intuitive side"}, {"start": "00:53:30", "end": "00:53:32", "text": "where I'm intrigued by all of these"}, {"start": "00:53:32", "end": "00:53:32", "text": "things."}, {"start": "00:53:32", "end": "00:53:34", "text": ">> Of course."}, {"start": "00:53:32", "end": "00:53:35", "text": ">> Kind of like you, I'm sure. Right."}, {"start": "00:53:34", "end": "00:53:37", "text": ">> Absolutely."}, {"start": "00:53:35", "end": "00:53:39", "text": ">> And so, but but the times"}, {"start": "00:53:37", "end": "00:53:39", "text": ">> I study Monroe, I do lucid dream, I do"}, {"start": "00:53:39", "end": "00:53:40", "text": "all this stuff."}, {"start": "00:53:39", "end": "00:53:42", "text": ">> Oh, yeah. That's great."}, {"start": "00:53:40", "end": "00:53:45", "text": ">> Could you see each other or No,"}, {"start": "00:53:42", "end": "00:53:45", "text": ">> sometimes not necessarily. Some people"}, {"start": "00:53:45", "end": "00:53:46", "text": "could, but"}, {"start": "00:53:45", "end": "00:53:47", "text": ">> they could,"}, {"start": "00:53:46", "end": "00:53:48", "text": ">> you know, some people were better at it"}, {"start": "00:53:47", "end": "00:53:49", "text": "than others,"}, {"start": "00:53:48", "end": "00:53:50", "text": ">> of course."}, {"start": "00:53:49", "end": "00:53:52", "text": ">> But for me, one of the most interesting"}, {"start": "00:53:50", "end": "00:53:55", "text": "ones, and again, you might go to what"}, {"start": "00:53:52", "end": "00:53:58", "text": "Robert used to call a stable uh place in"}, {"start": "00:53:55", "end": "00:53:59", "text": "the dream world. Like meaning it's it's"}, {"start": "00:53:58", "end": "00:54:01", "text": ">> like my dreams are subjective, your"}, {"start": "00:53:59", "end": "00:54:04", "text": "dreams are subjective. 90% of our dreams"}, {"start": "00:54:01", "end": "00:54:05", "text": "are are. And I write more about this in"}, {"start": "00:54:04", "end": "00:54:07", "text": "my book, you know, Zen entrepreneurship"}, {"start": "00:54:05", "end": "00:54:09", "text": "and my book treasure hunt, which is"}, {"start": "00:54:07", "end": "00:54:11", "text": "about dreams in the business world. Uh"}, {"start": "00:54:09", "end": "00:54:15", "text": "not so much in the simulation books, but"}, {"start": "00:54:11", "end": "00:54:16", "text": "it's a fun topic anyway. And so one one"}, {"start": "00:54:15", "end": "00:54:17", "text": "day he said, \"We're going to journey to"}, {"start": "00:54:16", "end": "00:54:19", "text": "Sirius.\" And I was like, \"What does that"}, {"start": "00:54:17", "end": "00:54:21", "text": "mean, journey to Sirius? What are we"}, {"start": "00:54:19", "end": "00:54:24", "text": "talking about? Let's just do it.\" So he"}, {"start": "00:54:21", "end": "00:54:26", "text": "started the drumming, set the intention,"}, {"start": "00:54:24", "end": "00:54:28", "text": "and then you say what you saw. And I"}, {"start": "00:54:26", "end": "00:54:30", "text": "remember going to this weird planet that"}, {"start": "00:54:28", "end": "00:54:32", "text": "maybe was orbiting Sirius. Again, this"}, {"start": "00:54:30", "end": "00:54:34", "text": "was, you know, a vision I was having, so"}, {"start": "00:54:32", "end": "00:54:37", "text": "hard to say how realistic it was. I saw"}, {"start": "00:54:34", "end": "00:54:40", "text": "these giant buildings, but they were on"}, {"start": "00:54:37", "end": "00:54:42", "text": "stilts. It was just bizarre to see these"}, {"start": "00:54:40", "end": "00:54:45", "text": "giants and it was like a ruins of an"}, {"start": "00:54:42", "end": "00:54:47", "text": "ancient uh civilization, but there was"}, {"start": "00:54:45", "end": "00:54:48", "text": "an even more ancient civilization that"}, {"start": "00:54:47", "end": "00:54:50", "text": "had ruins at the bottom. And so that's"}, {"start": "00:54:48", "end": "00:54:51", "text": "why these big buildings were on still."}, {"start": "00:54:50", "end": "00:54:52", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:54:51", "end": "00:54:54", "text": ">> And then I went off to the side and it"}, {"start": "00:54:52", "end": "00:54:56", "text": "looked like Superman, you know, like did"}, {"start": "00:54:54", "end": "00:54:57", "text": "you ever see uh in the original movie?"}, {"start": "00:54:56", "end": "00:54:58", "text": "Do you remember the Fortress of"}, {"start": "00:54:57", "end": "00:54:59", "text": "Solitude?"}, {"start": "00:54:58", "end": "00:55:00", "text": ">> Of course."}, {"start": "00:54:59", "end": "00:55:01", "text": ">> So there were like all these little"}, {"start": "00:55:00", "end": "00:55:01", "text": "points and so after"}, {"start": "00:55:01", "end": "00:55:03", "text": ">> white crystals and stuff."}, {"start": "00:55:01", "end": "00:55:05", "text": ">> Yeah, white crystals. Uh and then there"}, {"start": "00:55:03", "end": "00:55:07", "text": "was this group of people that were"}, {"start": "00:55:05", "end": "00:55:08", "text": "looking out over like different planets."}, {"start": "00:55:07", "end": "00:55:09", "text": "Uh but like"}, {"start": "00:55:08", "end": "00:55:10", "text": ">> living beings."}, {"start": "00:55:09", "end": "00:55:12", "text": ">> There were some living beings there too,"}, {"start": "00:55:10", "end": "00:55:14", "text": "but they weren't like they weren't there"}, {"start": "00:55:12", "end": "00:55:15", "text": "physically. It was it was a little"}, {"start": "00:55:14", "end": "00:55:17", "text": "bizarre. Let's leave that part off for"}, {"start": "00:55:15", "end": "00:55:19", "text": "now because fair enough because that I"}, {"start": "00:55:17", "end": "00:55:20", "text": "might have then transitioned to"}, {"start": "00:55:19", "end": "00:55:21", "text": "something else."}, {"start": "00:55:20", "end": "00:55:23", "text": ">> I just love this story."}, {"start": "00:55:21", "end": "00:55:26", "text": ">> Yeah. So I went and described all these"}, {"start": "00:55:23", "end": "00:55:28", "text": "details to Robert and some of the other"}, {"start": "00:55:26", "end": "00:55:30", "text": "people who went on the journey with us"}, {"start": "00:55:28", "end": "00:55:33", "text": "and they were like there were like"}, {"start": "00:55:30", "end": "00:55:35", "text": "something like 17 points that many of us"}, {"start": "00:55:33", "end": "00:55:37", "text": "saw including the s right down to the"}, {"start": "00:55:35", "end": "00:55:38", "text": "Superman crystal line structures and"}, {"start": "00:55:37", "end": "00:55:40", "text": "buildings on stilts."}, {"start": "00:55:38", "end": "00:55:41", "text": ">> They saw that."}, {"start": "00:55:40", "end": "00:55:43", "text": ">> Yeah. There's no way"}, {"start": "00:55:41", "end": "00:55:45", "text": ">> several of them saw that like not 100%"}, {"start": "00:55:43", "end": "00:55:46", "text": "of the people don't always see it but"}, {"start": "00:55:45", "end": "00:55:47", "text": "that's why you you do it in a group and"}, {"start": "00:55:46", "end": "00:55:49", "text": "you say okay"}, {"start": "00:55:47", "end": "00:55:53", "text": ">> what is the what are the correlations we"}, {"start": "00:55:49", "end": "00:55:55", "text": "can make uh now is that a shared"}, {"start": "00:55:53", "end": "00:55:59", "text": "dreamscape in an imaginary world could"}, {"start": "00:55:55", "end": "00:56:02", "text": "it be like an actual planet uh on Sirius"}, {"start": "00:55:59", "end": "00:56:04", "text": "could it be something else uh you know"}, {"start": "00:56:02", "end": "00:56:05", "text": "my skeptical mind kicks in and says well"}, {"start": "00:56:04", "end": "00:56:08", "text": "okay I don't know but there certainly"}, {"start": "00:56:05", "end": "00:56:10", "text": "was something going on here that whether"}, {"start": "00:56:08", "end": "00:56:12", "text": "it's an archetypal thing. Uh but the"}, {"start": "00:56:10", "end": "00:56:13", "text": "fact that there were so many instances"}, {"start": "00:56:12", "end": "00:56:15", "text": "where this would happen,"}, {"start": "00:56:13", "end": "00:56:16", "text": ">> the stilts is very that's a very strange"}, {"start": "00:56:15", "end": "00:56:17", "text": "detail."}, {"start": "00:56:16", "end": "00:56:18", "text": ">> It's very specific, right?"}, {"start": "00:56:17", "end": "00:56:20", "text": ">> Because anyone can say futuristic"}, {"start": "00:56:18", "end": "00:56:21", "text": "buildings or something, the stilts is"}, {"start": "00:56:20", "end": "00:56:23", "text": "very specific."}, {"start": "00:56:21", "end": "00:56:26", "text": ">> Yeah. And it was stilts on top of like"}, {"start": "00:56:23", "end": "00:56:28", "text": "an ancient ruins almost like a like an"}, {"start": "00:56:26", "end": "00:56:29", "text": "older civilization and that's why they"}, {"start": "00:56:28", "end": "00:56:30", "text": "built on stilts so that when they built"}, {"start": "00:56:29", "end": "00:56:32", "text": "new buildings"}, {"start": "00:56:30", "end": "00:56:34", "text": ">> that you wouldn't ruin like the old"}, {"start": "00:56:32", "end": "00:56:37", "text": "buildings, you know. Uh and that was the"}, {"start": "00:56:34", "end": "00:56:39", "text": "reason why. Um, and then eventually, I"}, {"start": "00:56:37", "end": "00:56:40", "text": "think the second part of it was they had"}, {"start": "00:56:39", "end": "00:56:42", "text": "moved off the planet and they were"}, {"start": "00:56:40", "end": "00:56:44", "text": "somewhere monitoring what was going on"}, {"start": "00:56:42", "end": "00:56:46", "text": "in different parts of their local"}, {"start": "00:56:44", "end": "00:56:47", "text": "quadrant of the galaxy. So, now it gets"}, {"start": "00:56:46", "end": "00:56:49", "text": "into a little more Star Trek. So, that"}, {"start": "00:56:47", "end": "00:56:50", "text": "could just be my sci-fi self coming out"}, {"start": "00:56:49", "end": "00:56:52", "text": "at that point, right?"}, {"start": "00:56:50", "end": "00:56:54", "text": ">> But whatever it was, there there's"}, {"start": "00:56:52", "end": "00:56:56", "text": "something there. And um, we'll talk"}, {"start": "00:56:54", "end": "00:56:59", "text": "about that more with simulation. Before"}, {"start": "00:56:56", "end": "00:57:01", "text": "we go to break, uh, can we talk about"}, {"start": "00:56:59", "end": "00:57:03", "text": "the uh asalent uh the asalent"}, {"start": "00:57:01", "end": "00:57:06", "text": "synchronicity and how weird that was?"}, {"start": "00:57:03", "end": "00:57:09", "text": ">> Sorry, which one? Um I sailing to uh"}, {"start": "00:57:06", "end": "00:57:10", "text": "Jacqu Valet, Jeffrey Cripple and"}, {"start": "00:57:09", "end": "00:57:11", "text": "Morpheus."}, {"start": "00:57:10", "end": "00:57:13", "text": ">> Oh yes. Yes. So the the Matrix"}, {"start": "00:57:11", "end": "00:57:15", "text": "synchronicity at the uh"}, {"start": "00:57:13", "end": "00:57:15", "text": ">> at the Selin Institute. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:57:15", "end": "00:57:17", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:57:15", "end": "00:57:21", "text": ">> Uh so those people who don't know Eselin"}, {"start": "00:57:17", "end": "00:57:25", "text": "is like this um kind of a hippie commune"}, {"start": "00:57:21", "end": "00:57:27", "text": "setup in big su north of LA and they"}, {"start": "00:57:25", "end": "00:57:30", "text": "have conferences there. And so Jeffrey"}, {"start": "00:57:27", "end": "00:57:31", "text": "Krele is a professor at Rice University."}, {"start": "00:57:30", "end": "00:57:34", "text": "He's he's one of the few academics"}, {"start": "00:57:31", "end": "00:57:36", "text": "that's been looking into UFOs and"}, {"start": "00:57:34", "end": "00:57:38", "text": "mysterious subjects. In fact, I I just"}, {"start": "00:57:36", "end": "00:57:42", "text": "wrote a paper uh that that I put a"}, {"start": "00:57:38", "end": "00:57:44", "text": "pre-print of online which is I wanted to"}, {"start": "00:57:42", "end": "00:57:46", "text": "call it aliens over Harvard, but it's"}, {"start": "00:57:44", "end": "00:57:48", "text": "it's actually called Aliens over Harvard"}, {"start": "00:57:46", "end": "00:57:51", "text": "in Stanford, but it's actually called"}, {"start": "00:57:48", "end": "00:57:53", "text": "UFOs in Academia, a case study in"}, {"start": "00:57:51", "end": "00:57:55", "text": "stigma, uh boundary work and the edges"}, {"start": "00:57:53", "end": "00:57:57", "text": "of legitimate science. So I interviewed"}, {"start": "00:57:55", "end": "00:58:00", "text": "a whole bunch of professors about who"}, {"start": "00:57:57", "end": "00:58:02", "text": "had studied the UFO subject openly about"}, {"start": "00:58:00", "end": "00:58:04", "text": "why is there a stigma about studying"}, {"start": "00:58:02", "end": "00:58:06", "text": "this seriously in some way and"}, {"start": "00:58:04", "end": "00:58:07", "text": ">> that's a great idea for a paper. Is that"}, {"start": "00:58:06", "end": "00:58:08", "text": "out yet?"}, {"start": "00:58:07", "end": "00:58:10", "text": ">> Yeah, the paper preprint is available"}, {"start": "00:58:08", "end": "00:58:11", "text": "online. If people search for it, they"}, {"start": "00:58:10", "end": "00:58:14", "text": "can find it or they looked at my Twitter"}, {"start": "00:58:11", "end": "00:58:15", "text": "account which is RZ Stanford. I guess"}, {"start": "00:58:14", "end": "00:58:18", "text": "it's called X Now."}, {"start": "00:58:15", "end": "00:58:19", "text": ">> I keep calling it Twitter still. But so"}, {"start": "00:58:18", "end": "00:58:21", "text": "I interviewed people and it turns out,"}, {"start": "00:58:19", "end": "00:58:25", "text": "you know, going back a little bit, I"}, {"start": "00:58:21", "end": "00:58:27", "text": "graduated from MIT in June of 1992. And"}, {"start": "00:58:25", "end": "00:58:29", "text": "there was one other major interesting"}, {"start": "00:58:27", "end": "00:58:32", "text": "thing that happened at MIT in June of"}, {"start": "00:58:29", "end": "00:58:35", "text": "1992. There was a abduction alien"}, {"start": "00:58:32", "end": "00:58:37", "text": "abduction conference at MIT in June of"}, {"start": "00:58:35", "end": "00:58:38", "text": "1992 and I heard about it."}, {"start": "00:58:37", "end": "00:58:39", "text": ">> What a strange place to have that"}, {"start": "00:58:38", "end": "00:58:42", "text": "conference. It was an invite only"}, {"start": "00:58:39", "end": "00:58:43", "text": "conference and John Mack who"}, {"start": "00:58:42", "end": "00:58:45", "text": ">> surevard many people will know from"}, {"start": "00:58:43", "end": "00:58:47", "text": "Harvard was one of the co-chairs along"}, {"start": "00:58:45", "end": "00:58:49", "text": "with a physics professor from MIT."}, {"start": "00:58:47", "end": "00:58:51", "text": ">> Uh and I remember thinking this is"}, {"start": "00:58:49", "end": "00:58:53", "text": "weird. Why are we having an abduction"}, {"start": "00:58:51", "end": "00:58:54", "text": "conference here and I mean I didn't go"}, {"start": "00:58:53", "end": "00:58:57", "text": "to the conference because it was invite"}, {"start": "00:58:54", "end": "00:58:58", "text": "only. Bud Hopkins was there and"}, {"start": "00:58:57", "end": "00:59:00", "text": ">> wow the big names"}, {"start": "00:58:58", "end": "00:59:02", "text": ">> and that was like the last serious"}, {"start": "00:59:00", "end": "00:59:03", "text": "abduction conference in that phase"}, {"start": "00:59:02", "end": "00:59:05", "text": "because you know John Mack got in"}, {"start": "00:59:03", "end": "00:59:07", "text": "trouble for studying the subject but so"}, {"start": "00:59:05", "end": "00:59:09", "text": "I went back and I interviewed people"}, {"start": "00:59:07", "end": "00:59:11", "text": "like David Pritchard who's the MIT"}, {"start": "00:59:09", "end": "00:59:13", "text": "professor who hosted it John Mack has"}, {"start": "00:59:11", "end": "00:59:15", "text": "passed away but Ralph Blumenthal"}, {"start": "00:59:13", "end": "00:59:18", "text": ">> who is his biographer who wrote a book"}, {"start": "00:59:15", "end": "00:59:20", "text": "on him uh and Jeff Karriel actually kept"}, {"start": "00:59:18", "end": "00:59:22", "text": "you know these alive with these secret"}, {"start": "00:59:20", "end": "00:59:24", "text": "conferences that you know were invite"}, {"start": "00:59:22", "end": "00:59:28", "text": "only and so they used to happen at"}, {"start": "00:59:24", "end": "00:59:32", "text": "Eselin. Um and so at at Eselin I came"}, {"start": "00:59:28", "end": "00:59:35", "text": "out with um uh the book The Simulation"}, {"start": "00:59:32", "end": "00:59:37", "text": "Hypothesis on on March 31st, 2019, which"}, {"start": "00:59:35", "end": "00:59:38", "text": "was the 20th anniversary of the release"}, {"start": "00:59:37", "end": "00:59:38", "text": "of The Matrix."}, {"start": "00:59:38", "end": "00:59:39", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"start": "00:59:38", "end": "00:59:40", "text": ">> Um and"}, {"start": "00:59:39", "end": "00:59:41", "text": ">> intentionally or no?"}, {"start": "00:59:40", "end": "00:59:42", "text": ">> Intentionally."}, {"start": "00:59:41", "end": "00:59:43", "text": ">> Okay. Nice."}, {"start": "00:59:42", "end": "00:59:44", "text": ">> Uh and that's why I ended up"}, {"start": "00:59:43", "end": "00:59:46", "text": "self-publishing the first version"}, {"start": "00:59:44", "end": "00:59:47", "text": "because there's no way uh publisher"}, {"start": "00:59:46", "end": "00:59:49", "text": "could have got it out on time because I"}, {"start": "00:59:47", "end": "00:59:51", "text": "only finished it in December and I was"}, {"start": "00:59:49", "end": "00:59:53", "text": "like, \"Okay, I'm going to get this out.\""}, {"start": "00:59:51", "end": "00:59:54", "text": "Uh, the second edition was Penguin"}, {"start": "00:59:53", "end": "00:59:55", "text": "Random House. So, they did all the the"}, {"start": "00:59:54", "end": "00:59:58", "text": "usual"}, {"start": "00:59:55", "end": "01:00:01", "text": ">> usual publishing timeline things. But,"}, {"start": "00:59:58", "end": "01:00:02", "text": "so I had met Jacques Valet, who I'm sure"}, {"start": "01:00:01", "end": "01:00:04", "text": "your audience knows him"}, {"start": "01:00:02", "end": "01:00:05", "text": ">> very well. But, but what is he like as a"}, {"start": "01:00:04", "end": "01:00:09", "text": "person?"}, {"start": "01:00:05", "end": "01:00:10", "text": ">> He's super nice guy and he's really"}, {"start": "01:00:09", "end": "01:00:14", "text": ">> u what's the word I want to use?"}, {"start": "01:00:10", "end": "01:00:17", "text": "Thoughtful, I think. Uh, and that's what"}, {"start": "01:00:14", "end": "01:00:18", "text": "I like about him is he'll present, you"}, {"start": "01:00:17", "end": "01:00:21", "text": "know, what he's heard, what people have"}, {"start": "01:00:18", "end": "01:00:23", "text": "told him, but he won't necessarily"}, {"start": "01:00:21", "end": "01:00:25", "text": "present his conclusions. Uh, so I I"}, {"start": "01:00:23", "end": "01:00:27", "text": "think he's one of the few people in the"}, {"start": "01:00:25", "end": "01:00:29", "text": "entire UFO world. And for those who"}, {"start": "01:00:27", "end": "01:00:31", "text": "don't know him, he was part of the"}, {"start": "01:00:29", "end": "01:00:33", "text": "inspiration for the French scientist in"}, {"start": "01:00:31", "end": "01:00:34", "text": "Close Encounters of the Third Kind and"}, {"start": "01:00:33", "end": "01:00:36", "text": "been involved since Project Blue Book,"}, {"start": "01:00:34", "end": "01:00:38", "text": "but he's a computer scientist at heart,"}, {"start": "01:00:36", "end": "01:00:40", "text": "which is how we connected. Really nice"}, {"start": "01:00:38", "end": "01:00:42", "text": "guy. He even wrote a a forward for the"}, {"start": "01:00:40", "end": "01:00:44", "text": "French edition of the simulation"}, {"start": "01:00:42", "end": "01:00:44", "text": "hypothesis in French."}, {"start": "01:00:44", "end": "01:00:45", "text": ">> He did."}, {"start": "01:00:44", "end": "01:00:46", "text": ">> Yeah, he did. So,"}, {"start": "01:00:45", "end": "01:00:48", "text": ">> what an honor."}, {"start": "01:00:46", "end": "01:00:49", "text": ">> It really was an honor. And and and"}, {"start": "01:00:48", "end": "01:00:51", "text": "again, it was it's just in that French"}, {"start": "01:00:49", "end": "01:00:52", "text": "edition. Uh so, but it was really"}, {"start": "01:00:51", "end": "01:00:54", "text": "awesome that he did that."}, {"start": "01:00:52", "end": "01:00:55", "text": ">> He's a very important person,"}, {"start": "01:00:54", "end": "01:00:58", "text": ">> I think. So, yeah. And and um you know,"}, {"start": "01:00:55", "end": "01:01:00", "text": "he's getting up there now. Heneck is"}, {"start": "01:00:58", "end": "01:01:01", "text": "Heneck passed away, you know, many years"}, {"start": "01:01:00", "end": "01:01:03", "text": "ago, so I never got to meet him. But,"}, {"start": "01:01:01", "end": "01:01:05", "text": ">> you know, Jacques has lots of stories,"}, {"start": "01:01:03", "end": "01:01:09", "text": "but he started telling me about some of"}, {"start": "01:01:05", "end": "01:01:11", "text": "the overlap between um well, he started"}, {"start": "01:01:09", "end": "01:01:13", "text": "telling me about UFO cases that led me"}, {"start": "01:01:11", "end": "01:01:15", "text": "to start thinking about the overlap"}, {"start": "01:01:13", "end": "01:01:17", "text": "between the the UFO phenomena and"}, {"start": "01:01:15", "end": "01:01:18", "text": "simulation theory. But so, there was a"}, {"start": "01:01:17", "end": "01:01:20", "text": "really interesting synchronicity that"}, {"start": "01:01:18", "end": "01:01:22", "text": "happened right when my book came out."}, {"start": "01:01:20", "end": "01:01:24", "text": "Uh, and Jacques had given me a little"}, {"start": "01:01:22", "end": "01:01:26", "text": "blurb for for the English version of the"}, {"start": "01:01:24", "end": "01:01:27", "text": "book. And I heard about this afterwards."}, {"start": "01:01:26", "end": "01:01:29", "text": "So I actually wasn't there but it was a"}, {"start": "01:01:27", "end": "01:01:31", "text": "synchronicity involving me and he said"}, {"start": "01:01:29", "end": "01:01:33", "text": "Jacques gave a presentation at Esselin"}, {"start": "01:01:31", "end": "01:01:34", "text": "at one of these conferences that they"}, {"start": "01:01:33", "end": "01:01:38", "text": "have there and it was just before let's"}, {"start": "01:01:34", "end": "01:01:39", "text": "say lunch right and his last slide had a"}, {"start": "01:01:38", "end": "01:01:41", "text": "picture of my book and he was talking"}, {"start": "01:01:39", "end": "01:01:43", "text": "about RZswan Burke and the matrix and it"}, {"start": "01:01:41", "end": "01:01:45", "text": "probably had a picture of the matrix and"}, {"start": "01:01:43", "end": "01:01:47", "text": "so they left it as the last slide okay"}, {"start": "01:01:45", "end": "01:01:48", "text": "and they all said oh that's interesting"}, {"start": "01:01:47", "end": "01:01:48", "text": "because the book had literally just come"}, {"start": "01:01:48", "end": "01:01:51", "text": "out"}, {"start": "01:01:48", "end": "01:01:53", "text": ">> and so then they left the classroom and"}, {"start": "01:01:51", "end": "01:01:55", "text": "they walked over to the cafeteria if you"}, {"start": "01:01:53", "end": "01:01:56", "text": "ever been to Eselin they're not that far"}, {"start": "01:01:55", "end": "01:01:59", "text": "it's like right on big are beautiful."}, {"start": "01:01:56", "end": "01:02:01", "text": "They walk into the cafeteria and who's"}, {"start": "01:01:59", "end": "01:02:03", "text": "there but Morpheus. I mean, they"}, {"start": "01:02:01", "end": "01:02:06", "text": "literally see Lawrence Fishburn sitting"}, {"start": "01:02:03", "end": "01:02:08", "text": "there in the cafeteria, you know, while"}, {"start": "01:02:06", "end": "01:02:10", "text": "they had just been talking about the"}, {"start": "01:02:08", "end": "01:02:12", "text": "Matrix and and my name. And so, I heard"}, {"start": "01:02:10", "end": "01:02:13", "text": "this from multiple people, including"}, {"start": "01:02:12", "end": "01:02:15", "text": "Jeff Griel and other people who were"}, {"start": "01:02:13", "end": "01:02:17", "text": "there. They're like, \"Hey, you know, you"}, {"start": "01:02:15", "end": "01:02:18", "text": "had this big synchronicity about you and"}, {"start": "01:02:17", "end": "01:02:20", "text": "Morpheus in the book.\" And I was like,"}, {"start": "01:02:18", "end": "01:02:21", "text": "\"Oh, damn. I wasn't there.\" But it was"}, {"start": "01:02:20", "end": "01:02:24", "text": "an interesting synchronicity."}, {"start": "01:02:21", "end": "01:02:25", "text": ">> It is. I mean, that the simulation is"}, {"start": "01:02:24", "end": "01:02:26", "text": "always listening. All right, let's take"}, {"start": "01:02:25", "end": "01:02:29", "text": "a quick break and uh when we come back,"}, {"start": "01:02:26", "end": "01:02:33", "text": "we'll talk simulation theory. Be right"}, {"start": "01:02:29", "end": "01:02:35", "text": "back. So, you've had this VR experience,"}, {"start": "01:02:33", "end": "01:02:38", "text": "pre-cognitive dream, a weird"}, {"start": "01:02:35", "end": "01:02:41", "text": "synchronicity,"}, {"start": "01:02:38", "end": "01:02:43", "text": "and then"}, {"start": "01:02:41", "end": "01:02:46", "text": "I think you start to realize that"}, {"start": "01:02:43", "end": "01:02:49", "text": "simulation theory is not just a thought"}, {"start": "01:02:46", "end": "01:02:51", "text": "experiment, that"}, {"start": "01:02:49", "end": "01:02:53", "text": "technology, physics, and religion are"}, {"start": "01:02:51", "end": "01:02:55", "text": "all starting to point in the same"}, {"start": "01:02:53", "end": "01:02:57", "text": "direction. Yeah, that was the"}, {"start": "01:02:55", "end": "01:03:00", "text": "realization that I came to was that"}, {"start": "01:02:57", "end": "01:03:01", "text": "there's no way in just a pure"}, {"start": "01:03:00", "end": "01:03:03", "text": "materialist model for some of these"}, {"start": "01:03:01", "end": "01:03:05", "text": "weird things to be happening. Not just"}, {"start": "01:03:03", "end": "01:03:08", "text": "the things that have happened to me, but"}, {"start": "01:03:05", "end": "01:03:12", "text": "things that others have reported. And so"}, {"start": "01:03:08", "end": "01:03:14", "text": "I really first wrote an article about"}, {"start": "01:03:12", "end": "01:03:17", "text": "simulation theory. I was actually"}, {"start": "01:03:14", "end": "01:03:18", "text": "visiting Sri Lanka. And in Sri Lanka"}, {"start": "01:03:17", "end": "01:03:20", "text": "there was a famous science fiction"}, {"start": "01:03:18", "end": "01:03:22", "text": "writer who lived there, Arthur C. Clark,"}, {"start": "01:03:20", "end": "01:03:24", "text": "whom you know, anybody who's into"}, {"start": "01:03:22", "end": "01:03:26", "text": "science knows Arthur C. Clark. He wrote"}, {"start": "01:03:24", "end": "01:03:28", "text": "2001 of Space Odyssey and his office is"}, {"start": "01:03:26", "end": "01:03:28", "text": "still well preserved there."}, {"start": "01:03:28", "end": "01:03:30", "text": ">> Really?"}, {"start": "01:03:28", "end": "01:03:32", "text": ">> Yeah. It's technically not a tourist"}, {"start": "01:03:30", "end": "01:03:33", "text": "attraction, but a buddy of mine was"}, {"start": "01:03:32", "end": "01:03:36", "text": "there. He's like, \"No, you can go.\" He"}, {"start": "01:03:33", "end": "01:03:37", "text": "just slipped the guy a few rupees."}, {"start": "01:03:36", "end": "01:03:39", "text": ">> I didn't know that. Awesome."}, {"start": "01:03:37", "end": "01:03:41", "text": ">> So, a buddy of mine from MIT had started"}, {"start": "01:03:39", "end": "01:03:42", "text": "a company in Sri Lanka and I had"}, {"start": "01:03:41", "end": "01:03:43", "text": "invested in his company and I was"}, {"start": "01:03:42", "end": "01:03:45", "text": "helping him out. So, I went out to visit"}, {"start": "01:03:43", "end": "01:03:47", "text": "him and I really want to see Arthur C."}, {"start": "01:03:45", "end": "01:03:50", "text": "Clark's office. So I went there and his"}, {"start": "01:03:47", "end": "01:03:53", "text": "desk is preserved and it's got all these"}, {"start": "01:03:50", "end": "01:03:55", "text": "books behind him and it's got uh like"}, {"start": "01:03:53", "end": "01:03:59", "text": "you know 2001 2010 but it's got like"}, {"start": "01:03:55", "end": "01:04:01", "text": "different versions and so I see this and"}, {"start": "01:03:59", "end": "01:04:04", "text": "sometimes I think we have a recognition"}, {"start": "01:04:01", "end": "01:04:05", "text": "of something right it reminded me of"}, {"start": "01:04:04", "end": "01:04:07", "text": "something"}, {"start": "01:04:05", "end": "01:04:09", "text": ">> and I was like yeah that's right I was"}, {"start": "01:04:07", "end": "01:04:12", "text": "supposed to be a writer like like you"}, {"start": "01:04:09", "end": "01:04:13", "text": "you kind of have this vision and it"}, {"start": "01:04:12", "end": "01:04:16", "text": "flashes in your mind and you don't know"}, {"start": "01:04:13", "end": "01:04:19", "text": "all the details right"}, {"start": "01:04:16", "end": "01:04:20", "text": "it it's like you remember the storyline"}, {"start": "01:04:19", "end": "01:04:23", "text": "and somehow it dawned on me that I"}, {"start": "01:04:20", "end": "01:04:25", "text": "needed to do more writing. But at that"}, {"start": "01:04:23", "end": "01:04:29", "text": "point I had gotten this idea that the"}, {"start": "01:04:25", "end": "01:04:32", "text": "video game was a good way to explain uh"}, {"start": "01:04:29", "end": "01:04:34", "text": "this idea of the physical world being"}, {"start": "01:04:32", "end": "01:04:35", "text": "virtual. And I had also spent a lot of"}, {"start": "01:04:34", "end": "01:04:38", "text": "time in a a game called Second Life"}, {"start": "01:04:35", "end": "01:04:39", "text": "which was from a decade before that."}, {"start": "01:04:38", "end": "01:04:40", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "01:04:39", "end": "01:04:42", "text": ">> But it was a virtual world. So, the"}, {"start": "01:04:40", "end": "01:04:44", "text": "difference between a virtual world and a"}, {"start": "01:04:42", "end": "01:04:45", "text": "game is in a game you're trying to score"}, {"start": "01:04:44", "end": "01:04:47", "text": "points and you're you're trying to win,"}, {"start": "01:04:45", "end": "01:04:49", "text": "but in a virtual life, you're just kind"}, {"start": "01:04:47", "end": "01:04:51", "text": "of living there."}, {"start": "01:04:49", "end": "01:04:53", "text": ">> Uh, and people would like have jobs"}, {"start": "01:04:51", "end": "01:04:54", "text": "inside Second Life. Like like they would"}, {"start": "01:04:53", "end": "01:04:56", "text": "come home from their real job and then"}, {"start": "01:04:54", "end": "01:04:57", "text": "they would log in to be a bartender at a"}, {"start": "01:04:56", "end": "01:04:57", "text": "club."}, {"start": "01:04:57", "end": "01:04:59", "text": ">> That's right."}, {"start": "01:04:57", "end": "01:05:01", "text": ">> In Second Life. And so I'd ask them"}, {"start": "01:04:59", "end": "01:05:02", "text": "like, \"Why are you doing this?\" They're"}, {"start": "01:05:01", "end": "01:05:04", "text": "like, \"Well, because it's fun, right?\""}, {"start": "01:05:02", "end": "01:05:07", "text": "Because they got paid in lynen dollars."}, {"start": "01:05:04", "end": "01:05:09", "text": "This is precoitcoin. Uh, which were"}, {"start": "01:05:07", "end": "01:05:11", "text": "worth peanuts. So they weren't doing it"}, {"start": "01:05:09", "end": "01:05:12", "text": "for the pay uh even though technically"}, {"start": "01:05:11", "end": "01:05:14", "text": "they were being paid. It was like that"}, {"start": "01:05:12", "end": "01:05:15", "text": "was part of their virtual life, their"}, {"start": "01:05:14", "end": "01:05:18", "text": "character's life and people would have"}, {"start": "01:05:15", "end": "01:05:20", "text": "relationships and get married. And you"}, {"start": "01:05:18", "end": "01:05:23", "text": "know that made an impression on me as"}, {"start": "01:05:20", "end": "01:05:25", "text": "well. But uh I decided to write an"}, {"start": "01:05:23", "end": "01:05:27", "text": "article, a long article about why I"}, {"start": "01:05:25", "end": "01:05:28", "text": "think we might be living inside a video"}, {"start": "01:05:27", "end": "01:05:30", "text": "game. And I tried to pull in some of the"}, {"start": "01:05:28", "end": "01:05:32", "text": "elements that I'd been thinking about."}, {"start": "01:05:30", "end": "01:05:36", "text": "So that article allowed me to pull"}, {"start": "01:05:32", "end": "01:05:38", "text": "together these different ideas. And uh I"}, {"start": "01:05:36", "end": "01:05:42", "text": "wrote it I was like end of 2017,"}, {"start": "01:05:38", "end": "01:05:45", "text": "beginning of 2018 partly because of uh"}, {"start": "01:05:42", "end": "01:05:47", "text": "you know the Arthur C. Clark experience"}, {"start": "01:05:45", "end": "01:05:49", "text": "uh and it was just a flash point that"}, {"start": "01:05:47", "end": "01:05:50", "text": "said oh I'm going to have a bunch of"}, {"start": "01:05:49", "end": "01:05:51", "text": "books that are going to be translated in"}, {"start": "01:05:50", "end": "01:05:52", "text": "a bunch of languages."}, {"start": "01:05:51", "end": "01:05:54", "text": ">> You at that moment"}, {"start": "01:05:52", "end": "01:05:56", "text": ">> at that moment like it was like but I"}, {"start": "01:05:54", "end": "01:05:58", "text": "got to get busy. You're doing more"}, {"start": "01:05:56", "end": "01:05:59", "text": "writing. And so I wrote the article and"}, {"start": "01:05:58", "end": "01:06:00", "text": "I said ah that's enough for now. You"}, {"start": "01:05:59", "end": "01:06:03", "text": "know I'm done. I was running this"}, {"start": "01:06:00", "end": "01:06:09", "text": "program at MIT. I'm doing other stuff."}, {"start": "01:06:03", "end": "01:06:10", "text": "Uh but that that got me into uh talking"}, {"start": "01:06:09", "end": "01:06:14", "text": "about the technology side of it"}, {"start": "01:06:10", "end": "01:06:16", "text": "initially more because uh when I uh"}, {"start": "01:06:14", "end": "01:06:17", "text": "started to think about how long would it"}, {"start": "01:06:16", "end": "01:06:20", "text": "take us to build something like the"}, {"start": "01:06:17", "end": "01:06:24", "text": "matrix I came up with this idea of the"}, {"start": "01:06:20", "end": "01:06:26", "text": "simulation point which is I define it as"}, {"start": "01:06:24", "end": "01:06:28", "text": "a type of technological singularity. Now"}, {"start": "01:06:26", "end": "01:06:30", "text": "most people know that term because they"}, {"start": "01:06:28", "end": "01:06:31", "text": "think of like you know Skynet super"}, {"start": "01:06:30", "end": "01:06:33", "text": "intelligent AI"}, {"start": "01:06:31", "end": "01:06:35", "text": ">> going to kill us all and take over the"}, {"start": "01:06:33", "end": "01:06:36", "text": "world. So the AI singularity is what"}, {"start": "01:06:35", "end": "01:06:38", "text": "when AI supersedes"}, {"start": "01:06:36", "end": "01:06:41", "text": ">> exponentially grows to the point where"}, {"start": "01:06:38", "end": "01:06:41", "text": "it yeah it's become super intelligent or"}, {"start": "01:06:41", "end": "01:06:44", "text": ">> beyond us"}, {"start": "01:06:41", "end": "01:06:47", "text": ">> beyond us that that's one example but"}, {"start": "01:06:44", "end": "01:06:49", "text": "the guy who coined the term"}, {"start": "01:06:47", "end": "01:06:51", "text": ">> the technological singularity was"}, {"start": "01:06:49", "end": "01:06:52", "text": "actually a guy named Verer Vinci"}, {"start": "01:06:51", "end": "01:06:54", "text": ">> who was a science fiction writer and a"}, {"start": "01:06:52", "end": "01:06:57", "text": "computer science professor and he"}, {"start": "01:06:54", "end": "01:07:00", "text": "defined it uh in many different ways. So"}, {"start": "01:06:57", "end": "01:07:02", "text": "it wasn't just AI. He said it could be"}, {"start": "01:07:00", "end": "01:07:05", "text": "computers networking with each other to"}, {"start": "01:07:02", "end": "01:07:07", "text": "become intelligent or us merging with"}, {"start": "01:07:05", "end": "01:07:08", "text": "computers which is what Ray Kerszswe"}, {"start": "01:07:07", "end": "01:07:11", "text": "talks about. Y"}, {"start": "01:07:08", "end": "01:07:14", "text": ">> uh the merger of biology and silicon but"}, {"start": "01:07:11", "end": "01:07:16", "text": "VI was relying on an earlier famous guy"}, {"start": "01:07:14", "end": "01:07:17", "text": "named Yulom John vonoman"}, {"start": "01:07:16", "end": "01:07:19", "text": ">> of course"}, {"start": "01:07:17", "end": "01:07:20", "text": ">> who's famous Hungarian mathematician. He"}, {"start": "01:07:19", "end": "01:07:23", "text": "basically defined the vonoyoman"}, {"start": "01:07:20", "end": "01:07:24", "text": "architecture that all of these computers"}, {"start": "01:07:23", "end": "01:07:25", "text": "still pretty much use the vonoman"}, {"start": "01:07:24", "end": "01:07:28", "text": "architecture. The guy really was a"}, {"start": "01:07:25", "end": "01:07:30", "text": "genius. uh and he borrowed the term"}, {"start": "01:07:28", "end": "01:07:32", "text": "singularity from physics because in"}, {"start": "01:07:30", "end": "01:07:34", "text": "physics you know singularity is when you"}, {"start": "01:07:32", "end": "01:07:35", "text": "know you're approaching that line like"}, {"start": "01:07:34", "end": "01:07:38", "text": "at the center of a black hole and he"}, {"start": "01:07:35", "end": "01:07:40", "text": "said it's the point at which technology"}, {"start": "01:07:38", "end": "01:07:41", "text": "grows exponentially such that everything"}, {"start": "01:07:40", "end": "01:07:42", "text": "is different from the human for the"}, {"start": "01:07:41", "end": "01:07:44", "text": "human race"}, {"start": "01:07:42", "end": "01:07:46", "text": ">> and you can't come back from a"}, {"start": "01:07:44", "end": "01:07:47", "text": "singularity that that's the it"}, {"start": "01:07:46", "end": "01:07:49", "text": ">> yeah at that point everything is"}, {"start": "01:07:47", "end": "01:07:51", "text": "different and yes uh and so Vinci wrote"}, {"start": "01:07:49", "end": "01:07:53", "text": "the paper and then Kurszswwell wrote a"}, {"start": "01:07:51", "end": "01:07:55", "text": "book about it but uh so a technological"}, {"start": "01:07:53", "end": "01:07:57", "text": "singularity is when technology gets to"}, {"start": "01:07:55", "end": "01:07:59", "text": "the point or you can't come back. And so"}, {"start": "01:07:57", "end": "01:08:03", "text": "I started to think, well, if we were to"}, {"start": "01:07:59", "end": "01:08:05", "text": "build a u a virtual world that was"}, {"start": "01:08:03", "end": "01:08:06", "text": "indistinguishable from physical reality,"}, {"start": "01:08:05", "end": "01:08:10", "text": "then we would have reached what I called"}, {"start": "01:08:06", "end": "01:08:13", "text": "a simulation point. Uh and if there are"}, {"start": "01:08:10", "end": "01:08:16", "text": "AI characters inside there that you"}, {"start": "01:08:13", "end": "01:08:18", "text": "can't tell if they're AI characters or"}, {"start": "01:08:16", "end": "01:08:21", "text": "not, then you know, we're basically able"}, {"start": "01:08:18", "end": "01:08:22", "text": "to create a full virtual world. And"}, {"start": "01:08:21", "end": "01:08:24", "text": "there's something called the touring"}, {"start": "01:08:22", "end": "01:08:27", "text": "test, which most people have heard of."}, {"start": "01:08:24", "end": "01:08:28", "text": "It's again going back to 1950 back in"}, {"start": "01:08:27", "end": "01:08:29", "text": "the time of Claude Shannon. It was"}, {"start": "01:08:28", "end": "01:08:31", "text": "actually Alan Turring. He wrote a paper"}, {"start": "01:08:29", "end": "01:08:32", "text": "called the imitation game. Y"}, {"start": "01:08:31", "end": "01:08:34", "text": ">> actually that's what he called it. And"}, {"start": "01:08:32", "end": "01:08:36", "text": "for people who don't know, most people"}, {"start": "01:08:34", "end": "01:08:38", "text": "have heard of it by now, but there's a"}, {"start": "01:08:36", "end": "01:08:42", "text": "computer behind curtain A and a person"}, {"start": "01:08:38", "end": "01:08:44", "text": "behind uh curtain B and you're passing"}, {"start": "01:08:42", "end": "01:08:45", "text": "messages back and forth. Now, how did"}, {"start": "01:08:44", "end": "01:08:47", "text": "they pass messages back in those days?"}, {"start": "01:08:45", "end": "01:08:48", "text": "They didn't have cell phones. It was"}, {"start": "01:08:47", "end": "01:08:48", "text": "teletype machines."}, {"start": "01:08:48", "end": "01:08:51", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "01:08:48", "end": "01:08:52", "text": ">> That was how he decided to do it. uh and"}, {"start": "01:08:51", "end": "01:08:54", "text": "he said if you can't tell the difference"}, {"start": "01:08:52", "end": "01:08:57", "text": "between the AI now again back then they"}, {"start": "01:08:54", "end": "01:08:58", "text": "thought AI was physical computer so if"}, {"start": "01:08:57", "end": "01:09:00", "text": "you can't tell the difference between a"}, {"start": "01:08:58", "end": "01:09:03", "text": "computer and the human then computer has"}, {"start": "01:09:00", "end": "01:09:05", "text": "passed the touring test um and of course"}, {"start": "01:09:03", "end": "01:09:08", "text": "today many people think with chat GPT"}, {"start": "01:09:05", "end": "01:09:10", "text": "and claude and Google and and all and"}, {"start": "01:09:08", "end": "01:09:12", "text": "and Grock that we've pretty much passed"}, {"start": "01:09:10", "end": "01:09:14", "text": "the touring test for text because it's"}, {"start": "01:09:12", "end": "01:09:16", "text": "all the chatbot is all a textbased"}, {"start": "01:09:14", "end": "01:09:18", "text": "interface there used to be a prize"}, {"start": "01:09:16", "end": "01:09:20", "text": "called the loer prize which was set up"}, {"start": "01:09:18", "end": "01:09:24", "text": "in the 90s and it was for the chatbot"}, {"start": "01:09:20", "end": "01:09:26", "text": "that actually came closest to passing"}, {"start": "01:09:24", "end": "01:09:28", "text": "the touring test. And there was a a"}, {"start": "01:09:26", "end": "01:09:30", "text": "chatbot named Alice that was one of the"}, {"start": "01:09:28", "end": "01:09:32", "text": "winners of it. It was the first chatbot"}, {"start": "01:09:30", "end": "01:09:33", "text": "that actually took on like a personality"}, {"start": "01:09:32", "end": "01:09:35", "text": "of a young woman."}, {"start": "01:09:33", "end": "01:09:35", "text": ">> I don't remember. I remember Eliza. I"}, {"start": "01:09:35", "end": "01:09:37", "text": "don't remember Alice."}, {"start": "01:09:35", "end": "01:09:40", "text": ">> Eliza was even before that. So Eliza was"}, {"start": "01:09:37", "end": "01:09:42", "text": "like in the 1960s. So this was like 90s"}, {"start": "01:09:40", "end": "01:09:45", "text": "or so, like 90s."}, {"start": "01:09:42", "end": "01:09:48", "text": ">> And there was a guy, a Hollywood guy who"}, {"start": "01:09:45", "end": "01:09:50", "text": "saw this chatbot like back in the 2000s."}, {"start": "01:09:48", "end": "01:09:52", "text": "He's like, \"Huh, a chatbot that has the"}, {"start": "01:09:50", "end": "01:09:54", "text": "personality of a young woman.\""}, {"start": "01:09:52", "end": "01:09:57", "text": ">> And his name was Spike Jones. Yeah. And"}, {"start": "01:09:54", "end": "01:09:59", "text": "he decided to write a script called Her,"}, {"start": "01:09:57", "end": "01:10:01", "text": "which became the film, you know, uh,"}, {"start": "01:09:59", "end": "01:10:02", "text": "with who was it? Was it Wen Phoenix?"}, {"start": "01:10:01", "end": "01:10:03", "text": ">> And Scarlett Johansson"}, {"start": "01:10:02", "end": "01:10:05", "text": ">> and Scarlett Johansson played the voice."}, {"start": "01:10:03", "end": "01:10:07", "text": "And so you see what's called the science"}, {"start": "01:10:05", "end": "01:10:09", "text": "fiction feedback loop at work where"}, {"start": "01:10:07", "end": "01:10:10", "text": "science fiction inspires technology and"}, {"start": "01:10:09", "end": "01:10:12", "text": "then technology inspires science"}, {"start": "01:10:10", "end": "01:10:14", "text": "fiction. And then when you know Sam"}, {"start": "01:10:12", "end": "01:10:18", "text": "Alman and these guys came out with I"}, {"start": "01:10:14", "end": "01:10:19", "text": "think it was chat GPT3 or 3.5 one of the"}, {"start": "01:10:18", "end": "01:10:21", "text": "versions they came out with they like"}, {"start": "01:10:19", "end": "01:10:24", "text": "started referencing her and there was a"}, {"start": "01:10:21", "end": "01:10:25", "text": "big blow up because the voice of the the"}, {"start": "01:10:24", "end": "01:10:26", "text": "woman who sounded like the guy's"}, {"start": "01:10:25", "end": "01:10:28", "text": "girlfriend in the video sounded like"}, {"start": "01:10:26", "end": "01:10:29", "text": "Scarlett Johansson."}, {"start": "01:10:28", "end": "01:10:30", "text": ">> There was just someone who sounded like"}, {"start": "01:10:29", "end": "01:10:32", "text": "her. He promised it wasn't her."}, {"start": "01:10:30", "end": "01:10:32", "text": ">> Yeah. It was just someone kind of like"}, {"start": "01:10:32", "end": "01:10:33", "text": "her."}, {"start": "01:10:32", "end": "01:10:35", "text": ">> Right. Right. Right."}, {"start": "01:10:33", "end": "01:10:35", "text": ">> Was it Samantha? I think in the film was"}, {"start": "01:10:35", "end": "01:10:36", "text": "her character."}, {"start": "01:10:35", "end": "01:10:38", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:10:36", "end": "01:10:40", "text": ">> Um and and so you and he literally"}, {"start": "01:10:38", "end": "01:10:41", "text": "referenced the movie her. So you start"}, {"start": "01:10:40", "end": "01:10:44", "text": "to see the science fiction feedback loop"}, {"start": "01:10:41", "end": "01:10:47", "text": "over time. But coming back to uh what I"}, {"start": "01:10:44", "end": "01:10:48", "text": "was talking about was uh in my book the"}, {"start": "01:10:47", "end": "01:10:50", "text": "second edition of simulation hypothesis"}, {"start": "01:10:48", "end": "01:10:52", "text": "I defined something called the virtual"}, {"start": "01:10:50", "end": "01:10:54", "text": "touring test or the metaverse touring"}, {"start": "01:10:52", "end": "01:10:57", "text": "test. And we're not quite there yet. And"}, {"start": "01:10:54", "end": "01:10:59", "text": "that is if you're inside a multiplayer"}, {"start": "01:10:57", "end": "01:11:02", "text": "game or a virtual world like a Second"}, {"start": "01:10:59", "end": "01:11:03", "text": "Life or World of Warcraft or Fortnite."}, {"start": "01:11:02", "end": "01:11:06", "text": "I'm sure there's a lot more recent"}, {"start": "01:11:03", "end": "01:11:08", "text": "recent examples now. And your avatar is"}, {"start": "01:11:06", "end": "01:11:11", "text": "controlled by you. And there's two other"}, {"start": "01:11:08", "end": "01:11:12", "text": "avatars. one of which is controlled by"}, {"start": "01:11:11", "end": "01:11:15", "text": "uh a human player and one of which is"}, {"start": "01:11:12", "end": "01:11:17", "text": "controlled by an AI. And if you can't"}, {"start": "01:11:15", "end": "01:11:18", "text": "tell the difference between those two"}, {"start": "01:11:17", "end": "01:11:20", "text": "and you can do anything you want in the"}, {"start": "01:11:18", "end": "01:11:23", "text": "virtual world, you can you know drive"}, {"start": "01:11:20", "end": "01:11:24", "text": "cars, you can fly on dragons, you can go"}, {"start": "01:11:23", "end": "01:11:25", "text": "skiing, you can you can talk to each"}, {"start": "01:11:24", "end": "01:11:28", "text": "other, you can flirt, you can have"}, {"start": "01:11:25", "end": "01:11:31", "text": "virtual sex, whatever you want. Uh and"}, {"start": "01:11:28", "end": "01:11:33", "text": "if after say an hour you can't tell"}, {"start": "01:11:31", "end": "01:11:35", "text": "which of those avatars and you're"}, {"start": "01:11:33", "end": "01:11:37", "text": "talking too. So there's voice element."}, {"start": "01:11:35", "end": "01:11:39", "text": "Uh, which of course today, you know, if"}, {"start": "01:11:37", "end": "01:11:39", "text": "you've seen any of the the latest AIs,"}, {"start": "01:11:39", "end": "01:11:40", "text": "they can"}, {"start": "01:11:39", "end": "01:11:42", "text": ">> they can do it."}, {"start": "01:11:40", "end": "01:11:44", "text": ">> They can have a voice. In fact, I got a"}, {"start": "01:11:42", "end": "01:11:46", "text": "call from an AI not that long ago."}, {"start": "01:11:44", "end": "01:11:48", "text": ">> Could you tell it was AI?"}, {"start": "01:11:46", "end": "01:11:49", "text": ">> Uh, they made it so that they told you"}, {"start": "01:11:48", "end": "01:11:50", "text": "it was AI."}, {"start": "01:11:49", "end": "01:11:52", "text": ">> Oh, okay."}, {"start": "01:11:50", "end": "01:11:54", "text": ">> It was called Bory. It was a an AI"}, {"start": "01:11:52", "end": "01:11:56", "text": "venture capitalist"}, {"start": "01:11:54", "end": "01:11:58", "text": "who basically was like, well, as an AI"}, {"start": "01:11:56", "end": "01:12:00", "text": "venture capitalist, I can talk to every"}, {"start": "01:11:58", "end": "01:12:01", "text": "single founder on Earth, right? Because"}, {"start": "01:12:00", "end": "01:12:02", "text": "it's just making calls and it's"}, {"start": "01:12:01", "end": "01:12:05", "text": "automated. But it was actually pretty"}, {"start": "01:12:02", "end": "01:12:08", "text": "good. I mean, in taking what I said,"}, {"start": "01:12:05", "end": "01:12:09", "text": "it's an example of where they're putting"}, {"start": "01:12:08", "end": "01:12:11", "text": "in, you know, the LLM is behind the"}, {"start": "01:12:09", "end": "01:12:15", "text": "scenes, but it's basically the brain"}, {"start": "01:12:11", "end": "01:12:17", "text": "that's driving the character. Uh, and in"}, {"start": "01:12:15", "end": "01:12:21", "text": "fact, we were talking about the Matrix,"}, {"start": "01:12:17", "end": "01:12:24", "text": "uh, Awakens. Uh, and that was a virtual"}, {"start": "01:12:21", "end": "01:12:27", "text": "city, and there was a guy, he put a"}, {"start": "01:12:24", "end": "01:12:30", "text": "smart NPC engine into it. um which"}, {"start": "01:12:27", "end": "01:12:32", "text": "basically was has an LLM behind it. So"}, {"start": "01:12:30", "end": "01:12:34", "text": "that all the NPCs in that city, you"}, {"start": "01:12:32", "end": "01:12:36", "text": "know, they were kind of dumb dumb NPCs"}, {"start": "01:12:34", "end": "01:12:39", "text": "in most games, but now we have smart"}, {"start": "01:12:36", "end": "01:12:41", "text": "NPCs. And so he walked around uh this"}, {"start": "01:12:39", "end": "01:12:42", "text": "retro world and he started telling"}, {"start": "01:12:41", "end": "01:12:43", "text": "people, you know, you're in a video"}, {"start": "01:12:42", "end": "01:12:44", "text": "game."}, {"start": "01:12:43", "end": "01:12:45", "text": ">> Yep. I remember this."}, {"start": "01:12:44", "end": "01:12:46", "text": ">> You're an NPC."}, {"start": "01:12:45", "end": "01:12:48", "text": ">> And some got upset, didn't they?"}, {"start": "01:12:46", "end": "01:12:50", "text": ">> Yeah. Some were like, you know, that's"}, {"start": "01:12:48", "end": "01:12:52", "text": "ridiculous. Or some were like, I got to"}, {"start": "01:12:50", "end": "01:12:54", "text": "go to work. I don't have time for this"}, {"start": "01:12:52", "end": "01:12:56", "text": "crap. Others were like, oh, that's"}, {"start": "01:12:54", "end": "01:12:58", "text": "interesting. Tell me more."}, {"start": "01:12:56", "end": "01:13:01", "text": ">> Right. And this was back in like 22,"}, {"start": "01:12:58", "end": "01:13:03", "text": "right? So looking at how fast looking at"}, {"start": "01:13:01", "end": "01:13:06", "text": "how fast AI technology evolves. I mean,"}, {"start": "01:13:03", "end": "01:13:08", "text": "we're already many generations beyond"}, {"start": "01:13:06", "end": "01:13:11", "text": "that. But they they reacted kind of like"}, {"start": "01:13:08", "end": "01:13:13", "text": "real people might. Um, and so we're not"}, {"start": "01:13:11", "end": "01:13:15", "text": "quite at passing the the virtual or"}, {"start": "01:13:13", "end": "01:13:17", "text": "metaverse touring test yet, but I think"}, {"start": "01:13:15", "end": "01:13:20", "text": "we will be eventually. And that's one of"}, {"start": "01:13:17", "end": "01:13:22", "text": "the stages of these 10 stages to get to"}, {"start": "01:13:20", "end": "01:13:24", "text": "the simulation point to build a matrix."}, {"start": "01:13:22", "end": "01:13:26", "text": "And another would be like BCIS, putting"}, {"start": "01:13:24", "end": "01:13:28", "text": "in brain computer interfaces. Yes. Like"}, {"start": "01:13:26", "end": "01:13:31", "text": "in the Matrix."}, {"start": "01:13:28", "end": "01:13:34", "text": ">> So before we go too far down, um one"}, {"start": "01:13:31", "end": "01:13:38", "text": "thing I I don't think I've seen anyone"}, {"start": "01:13:34", "end": "01:13:40", "text": "else do this is uh your NPC verse RPG uh"}, {"start": "01:13:38", "end": "01:13:44", "text": "inside the simulation. But before we get"}, {"start": "01:13:40", "end": "01:13:46", "text": "there, take us back to your paper and"}, {"start": "01:13:44", "end": "01:13:49", "text": "what was your argument for this could be"}, {"start": "01:13:46", "end": "01:13:50", "text": "a simulation? I mean the the actual"}, {"start": "01:13:49", "end": "01:13:52", "text": "technology."}, {"start": "01:13:50", "end": "01:13:54", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. So the techn technological"}, {"start": "01:13:52", "end": "01:13:56", "text": "argument was that video games can get to"}, {"start": "01:13:54", "end": "01:14:00", "text": "be so good that we will reach the"}, {"start": "01:13:56", "end": "01:14:03", "text": "simulation point at some point. Uh and"}, {"start": "01:14:00", "end": "01:14:05", "text": "it could be soon, it could be 100 years,"}, {"start": "01:14:03", "end": "01:14:08", "text": "could be a thousand years. It really"}, {"start": "01:14:05", "end": "01:14:10", "text": "doesn't matter that much as long as we"}, {"start": "01:14:08", "end": "01:14:12", "text": "get to that point. And so if we will"}, {"start": "01:14:10", "end": "01:14:14", "text": "eventually be able to immerse ourselves"}, {"start": "01:14:12", "end": "01:14:17", "text": "in virtual worlds"}, {"start": "01:14:14", "end": "01:14:20", "text": "that we can't distinguish if we're"}, {"start": "01:14:17", "end": "01:14:22", "text": "having the real experience or not. And"}, {"start": "01:14:20", "end": "01:14:23", "text": "one of the stages also included like"}, {"start": "01:14:22", "end": "01:14:25", "text": "false memories like Philip K. Dick. We"}, {"start": "01:14:23", "end": "01:14:26", "text": "can talk more about him. I hope so."}, {"start": "01:14:25", "end": "01:14:29", "text": ">> Yeah. Because he's, you know, one of my"}, {"start": "01:14:26", "end": "01:14:31", "text": "favorite u authors. And in Bladeunner,"}, {"start": "01:14:29", "end": "01:14:34", "text": "for example, you had the android that"}, {"start": "01:14:31", "end": "01:14:35", "text": "had Rachel who remembered being a little"}, {"start": "01:14:34", "end": "01:14:37", "text": "girl growing up. So she didn't think she"}, {"start": "01:14:35", "end": "01:14:39", "text": "was AI, but she had those memories"}, {"start": "01:14:37", "end": "01:14:42", "text": "implanted in her. But if we can have"}, {"start": "01:14:39", "end": "01:14:43", "text": "those experiences and you can't tell the"}, {"start": "01:14:42", "end": "01:14:47", "text": "difference,"}, {"start": "01:14:43", "end": "01:14:50", "text": "then how do we know for sure that we're"}, {"start": "01:14:47", "end": "01:14:52", "text": "not inside a virtual world right now?"}, {"start": "01:14:50", "end": "01:14:54", "text": "That was the crux of the argument, but"}, {"start": "01:14:52", "end": "01:14:57", "text": "it was built on the idea that technology"}, {"start": "01:14:54", "end": "01:14:59", "text": "is developing uh and people like to have"}, {"start": "01:14:57", "end": "01:15:01", "text": "virtual lives. And then the quantum"}, {"start": "01:14:59", "end": "01:15:02", "text": "physics was part of the argument as"}, {"start": "01:15:01", "end": "01:15:03", "text": "well. So I don't know if we want to get"}, {"start": "01:15:02", "end": "01:15:04", "text": "into that"}, {"start": "01:15:03", "end": "01:15:07", "text": ">> in just a second because I want to"}, {"start": "01:15:04", "end": "01:15:09", "text": "dispel something. Um, and this was in my"}, {"start": "01:15:07", "end": "01:15:11", "text": "episode about simulation theory."}, {"start": "01:15:09", "end": "01:15:12", "text": "Physicists will physicists will argue"}, {"start": "01:15:11", "end": "01:15:14", "text": "you can't this can't be a simulation"}, {"start": "01:15:12", "end": "01:15:16", "text": "because to simulate all this material,"}, {"start": "01:15:14", "end": "01:15:18", "text": "all consciousness down to the quantum"}, {"start": "01:15:16", "end": "01:15:21", "text": "level, you would need a simulation"}, {"start": "01:15:18", "end": "01:15:23", "text": "bigger than the universe itself. And my"}, {"start": "01:15:21", "end": "01:15:24", "text": "response was that's not how simulations"}, {"start": "01:15:23", "end": "01:15:25", "text": "work,"}, {"start": "01:15:24", "end": "01:15:27", "text": ">> right? Exactly. I mean, the way that"}, {"start": "01:15:25", "end": "01:15:29", "text": "simulations work is you simulate the"}, {"start": "01:15:27", "end": "01:15:29", "text": "parts that you need,"}, {"start": "01:15:29", "end": "01:15:33", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "01:15:29", "end": "01:15:34", "text": ">> And you So, physicists love the law of"}, {"start": "01:15:33", "end": "01:15:36", "text": "big numbers, right? Mhm."}, {"start": "01:15:34", "end": "01:15:37", "text": ">> They love to say infinity. Oh yeah, it's"}, {"start": "01:15:36", "end": "01:15:39", "text": "infinite or there's an infinite number"}, {"start": "01:15:37", "end": "01:15:41", "text": "of particles. Uh but computer"}, {"start": "01:15:39", "end": "01:15:43", "text": "scientists, we hate infinity because we"}, {"start": "01:15:41", "end": "01:15:43", "text": "always dealing with limited resources,"}, {"start": "01:15:43", "end": "01:15:46", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "01:15:43", "end": "01:15:48", "text": ">> So it's all about optimization."}, {"start": "01:15:46", "end": "01:15:50", "text": ">> And I tell people, so in in the book"}, {"start": "01:15:48", "end": "01:15:51", "text": "there's a we mentioned King's Quest, so"}, {"start": "01:15:50", "end": "01:15:53", "text": "I'll bring it up again. Yep."}, {"start": "01:15:51", "end": "01:15:55", "text": ">> If you look at King's Quest, you'll see"}, {"start": "01:15:53", "end": "01:15:56", "text": "that each of the the screens when that"}, {"start": "01:15:55", "end": "01:15:58", "text": "guy is walking, it almost looks"}, {"start": "01:15:56", "end": "01:16:01", "text": "continuous, but it's really not. all the"}, {"start": "01:15:58", "end": "01:16:04", "text": "pixels of all the screens are laid out"}, {"start": "01:16:01", "end": "01:16:06", "text": "which means they're called raster images"}, {"start": "01:16:04", "end": "01:16:08", "text": "or bit map images. Uh but they're"}, {"start": "01:16:06", "end": "01:16:09", "text": "basically rendered like the pixels are"}, {"start": "01:16:08", "end": "01:16:11", "text": "sitting there on disk and it's just a"}, {"start": "01:16:09", "end": "01:16:13", "text": "matter of loading it. Now"}, {"start": "01:16:11", "end": "01:16:14", "text": ">> back in the 80s and you know this"}, {"start": "01:16:13", "end": "01:16:16", "text": "because you were you were around if you"}, {"start": "01:16:14", "end": "01:16:20", "text": "tried to build something like World of"}, {"start": "01:16:16", "end": "01:16:21", "text": "Warcraft uh or Fortnite or a CS GO which"}, {"start": "01:16:20", "end": "01:16:23", "text": "is a first-person shooter. Yep. You"}, {"start": "01:16:21", "end": "01:16:25", "text": "wouldn't be able to do it because"}, {"start": "01:16:23", "end": "01:16:27", "text": "there's too many pixels to keep track"}, {"start": "01:16:25", "end": "01:16:31", "text": "of. and they didn't know how to compress"}, {"start": "01:16:27", "end": "01:16:33", "text": "that down in such a way that you could"}, {"start": "01:16:31", "end": "01:16:35", "text": "render it on the fly. The hardware"}, {"start": "01:16:33", "end": "01:16:37", "text": "wasn't that good either. But the thing"}, {"start": "01:16:35", "end": "01:16:39", "text": "that I learned as a computer scientist"}, {"start": "01:16:37", "end": "01:16:41", "text": "is that it's yes, the hardware gets"}, {"start": "01:16:39", "end": "01:16:43", "text": "better, but it's the algorithmic"}, {"start": "01:16:41", "end": "01:16:45", "text": "improvements that really make the order"}, {"start": "01:16:43", "end": "01:16:46", "text": "of magnitude difference. Like hardware"}, {"start": "01:16:45", "end": "01:16:48", "text": "might go from one to two, but if you"}, {"start": "01:16:46", "end": "01:16:50", "text": "want to go from one to 10 or one to 100,"}, {"start": "01:16:48", "end": "01:16:52", "text": "you need to change the way that you're"}, {"start": "01:16:50", "end": "01:16:53", "text": "doing things. And so the reason we can"}, {"start": "01:16:52", "end": "01:16:55", "text": "render"}, {"start": "01:16:53", "end": "01:16:58", "text": "uh a World of Warcraft today is we don't"}, {"start": "01:16:55", "end": "01:17:01", "text": "need all the pixels for all the castles"}, {"start": "01:16:58", "end": "01:17:04", "text": "to be on your computer. What we do is we"}, {"start": "01:17:01", "end": "01:17:06", "text": "generate it through 3D models based upon"}, {"start": "01:17:04", "end": "01:17:07", "text": "where you're looking. And the first game"}, {"start": "01:17:06", "end": "01:17:08", "text": "that got really popular that did this"}, {"start": "01:17:07", "end": "01:17:09", "text": "was Doom,"}, {"start": "01:17:08", "end": "01:17:11", "text": ">> of course,"}, {"start": "01:17:09", "end": "01:17:13", "text": ">> back in the 90s. I mean, they had Castle"}, {"start": "01:17:11", "end": "01:17:15", "text": "Wolfenstein and before that as well, but"}, {"start": "01:17:13", "end": "01:17:17", "text": "the the the game that really got popular"}, {"start": "01:17:15", "end": "01:17:20", "text": "and it simulated a first-person"}, {"start": "01:17:17", "end": "01:17:22", "text": "perspective. And so it basically, you"}, {"start": "01:17:20", "end": "01:17:24", "text": "know, just showed you what your"}, {"start": "01:17:22", "end": "01:17:26", "text": "character could see. And the rule of"}, {"start": "01:17:24", "end": "01:17:27", "text": "thumb was only render that which is"}, {"start": "01:17:26", "end": "01:17:28", "text": "observed."}, {"start": "01:17:27", "end": "01:17:29", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "01:17:28", "end": "01:17:29", "text": ">> And by the way, that's what"}, {"start": "01:17:29", "end": "01:17:31", "text": ">> sounds familiar."}, {"start": "01:17:29", "end": "01:17:33", "text": ">> It sounds familiar, right? And that's"}, {"start": "01:17:31", "end": "01:17:35", "text": "what we do with Zoom, too. Like if you"}, {"start": "01:17:33", "end": "01:17:36", "text": "and I I mean, we happen to be in the"}, {"start": "01:17:35", "end": "01:17:37", "text": "same room, although"}, {"start": "01:17:36", "end": "01:17:39", "text": ">> how would the audience know that we're"}, {"start": "01:17:37", "end": "01:17:41", "text": "not in the same room? Uh, but if we're"}, {"start": "01:17:39", "end": "01:17:43", "text": "on Zoom and I'm in, you know, Los"}, {"start": "01:17:41", "end": "01:17:45", "text": "Phoenix and you're in Los Angeles, then"}, {"start": "01:17:43", "end": "01:17:47", "text": "my computer doesn't have to render all"}, {"start": "01:17:45", "end": "01:17:49", "text": "of Los Angeles. It just renders your"}, {"start": "01:17:47", "end": "01:17:50", "text": "background. And similarly, your computer"}, {"start": "01:17:49", "end": "01:17:52", "text": "doesn't have to render all of Phoenix."}, {"start": "01:17:50", "end": "01:17:53", "text": "It just needs to show the part that is"}, {"start": "01:17:52", "end": "01:17:54", "text": "visible from the camera."}, {"start": "01:17:53", "end": "01:17:56", "text": ">> So that that castle that's way out in"}, {"start": "01:17:54", "end": "01:17:58", "text": "the distance is really just a few"}, {"start": "01:17:56", "end": "01:18:00", "text": "pixels. That's all we're rendering until"}, {"start": "01:17:58", "end": "01:18:01", "text": "you get there. And then we give you more"}, {"start": "01:18:00", "end": "01:18:03", "text": "and more information."}, {"start": "01:18:01", "end": "01:18:03", "text": ">> Yeah. And it's rendering it on demand."}, {"start": "01:18:03", "end": "01:18:07", "text": "Yes."}, {"start": "01:18:03", "end": "01:18:10", "text": ">> And this is a key feature of how 3D"}, {"start": "01:18:07", "end": "01:18:12", "text": "particularly 3D video games are built."}, {"start": "01:18:10", "end": "01:18:15", "text": "Uh and the information for that castle"}, {"start": "01:18:12", "end": "01:18:17", "text": "is still out there. And sometimes it's"}, {"start": "01:18:15", "end": "01:18:20", "text": "even that is generated on the fly. There"}, {"start": "01:18:17", "end": "01:18:21", "text": "was a game in 2016 called No Man's Sky."}, {"start": "01:18:20", "end": "01:18:24", "text": ">> Oh, procedural. Yes,"}, {"start": "01:18:21", "end": "01:18:26", "text": ">> procedural, right? And it had 18"}, {"start": "01:18:24", "end": "01:18:27", "text": "quintilian planets. Okay,"}, {"start": "01:18:26", "end": "01:18:30", "text": ">> that's an interesting number, actually."}, {"start": "01:18:27", "end": "01:18:32", "text": ">> It is, right? You probably know why."}, {"start": "01:18:30", "end": "01:18:32", "text": ">> I do, but but you have to explain."}, {"start": "01:18:32", "end": "01:18:34", "text": ">> So,"}, {"start": "01:18:32", "end": "01:18:34", "text": ">> but that's an that's an interesting"}, {"start": "01:18:34", "end": "01:18:36", "text": "number."}, {"start": "01:18:34", "end": "01:18:36", "text": ">> Yeah. But first of all, it's a really"}, {"start": "01:18:36", "end": "01:18:37", "text": "big number."}, {"start": "01:18:36", "end": "01:18:38", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "01:18:37", "end": "01:18:41", "text": ">> So, it pretty much seemed infinite at"}, {"start": "01:18:38", "end": "01:18:43", "text": "that point. And the way video games used"}, {"start": "01:18:41", "end": "01:18:45", "text": "to be designed is you would have to have"}, {"start": "01:18:43", "end": "01:18:48", "text": "your your design team design every one"}, {"start": "01:18:45", "end": "01:18:50", "text": "of those planets. Now, there's no way"}, {"start": "01:18:48", "end": "01:18:53", "text": "that anyone could design 18 quintilian"}, {"start": "01:18:50", "end": "01:18:55", "text": "worlds. It's it's just too much. Uh so"}, {"start": "01:18:53", "end": "01:18:55", "text": "what they did was they use procedural"}, {"start": "01:18:55", "end": "01:18:56", "text": "generation,"}, {"start": "01:18:55", "end": "01:18:59", "text": ">> which is what"}, {"start": "01:18:56", "end": "01:19:02", "text": ">> which is basically code that runs and"}, {"start": "01:18:59", "end": "01:19:05", "text": "generates the scenery for you as needed."}, {"start": "01:19:02", "end": "01:19:08", "text": "So when you get to the planet, it would"}, {"start": "01:19:05", "end": "01:19:11", "text": "generate like the trees, uh the forests,"}, {"start": "01:19:08", "end": "01:19:13", "text": "the landscapes, the mountains using a"}, {"start": "01:19:11", "end": "01:19:14", "text": "whole bunch of algorithms. And there"}, {"start": "01:19:13", "end": "01:19:16", "text": "there's a whole bunch of algorithms that"}, {"start": "01:19:14", "end": "01:19:18", "text": "you know there's algorithms that can"}, {"start": "01:19:16", "end": "01:19:21", "text": "simulate water. There's fractal"}, {"start": "01:19:18", "end": "01:19:23", "text": "algorithms. If you've ever looked at how"}, {"start": "01:19:21", "end": "01:19:26", "text": "like you know you can have trees being"}, {"start": "01:19:23", "end": "01:19:28", "text": "generated. Um in fact in my second"}, {"start": "01:19:26", "end": "01:19:30", "text": "simulation book the simulated multiverse"}, {"start": "01:19:28", "end": "01:19:31", "text": "there's a whole chapter on like these"}, {"start": "01:19:30", "end": "01:19:33", "text": "types of algorithms and how it looks"}, {"start": "01:19:31", "end": "01:19:34", "text": "like nature is algorithmic."}, {"start": "01:19:33", "end": "01:19:37", "text": ">> It does"}, {"start": "01:19:34", "end": "01:19:39", "text": ">> in nature. U nature is algorithmic in"}, {"start": "01:19:37", "end": "01:19:42", "text": "nature. No pun intended. Uh because you"}, {"start": "01:19:39", "end": "01:19:42", "text": "know you look at like the the sea shells"}, {"start": "01:19:42", "end": "01:19:43", "text": "and"}, {"start": "01:19:42", "end": "01:19:46", "text": ">> right the Fibonacci numbers"}, {"start": "01:19:43", "end": "01:19:49", "text": ">> Fibonacci numbers but you see all these"}, {"start": "01:19:46", "end": "01:19:52", "text": "um uh similar sequences of things or or"}, {"start": "01:19:49", "end": "01:19:54", "text": "algorithmic generation or fractals right"}, {"start": "01:19:52", "end": "01:19:56", "text": "which are fractalss are when you have"}, {"start": "01:19:54", "end": "01:19:59", "text": "self similarity at different levels"}, {"start": "01:19:56", "end": "01:20:00", "text": ">> right no matter what where how close or"}, {"start": "01:19:59", "end": "01:20:02", "text": "far away it looks the same"}, {"start": "01:20:00", "end": "01:20:03", "text": ">> it's very similar right because it uses"}, {"start": "01:20:02", "end": "01:20:04", "text": "a similar algorithm even though there"}, {"start": "01:20:03", "end": "01:20:06", "text": "might be some randomness in the"}, {"start": "01:20:04", "end": "01:20:08", "text": "algorithm still and it fractals came"}, {"start": "01:20:06", "end": "01:20:10", "text": "from a guy I think What was his name?"}, {"start": "01:20:08", "end": "01:20:13", "text": "Mendel brought it. There was a guy in"}, {"start": "01:20:10", "end": "01:20:14", "text": "the 70s who said, \"How long is a"}, {"start": "01:20:13", "end": "01:20:16", "text": "coastline?\" So if you were to measure a"}, {"start": "01:20:14", "end": "01:20:18", "text": "coastline, how how long would it be?"}, {"start": "01:20:16", "end": "01:20:20", "text": "Like say in England. Well, it depends on"}, {"start": "01:20:18", "end": "01:20:22", "text": "the scale because if you're measuring it"}, {"start": "01:20:20", "end": "01:20:24", "text": "from satellite, you know, you'll see"}, {"start": "01:20:22", "end": "01:20:24", "text": "kind of like almost like a straight"}, {"start": "01:20:24", "end": "01:20:24", "text": "line."}, {"start": "01:20:24", "end": "01:20:27", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "01:20:24", "end": "01:20:29", "text": ">> But if you go into the bays and nooks"}, {"start": "01:20:27", "end": "01:20:31", "text": "and crannies, it'll be longer because"}, {"start": "01:20:29", "end": "01:20:34", "text": "now you're going like this. Well, if you"}, {"start": "01:20:31", "end": "01:20:36", "text": "got really small, you would start to see"}, {"start": "01:20:34", "end": "01:20:39", "text": "even within one rock, you would see all"}, {"start": "01:20:36", "end": "01:20:41", "text": "of these little variations, right? And"}, {"start": "01:20:39", "end": "01:20:43", "text": "so it depends on what scale you're at,"}, {"start": "01:20:41", "end": "01:20:44", "text": "but there's some self similarity at"}, {"start": "01:20:43", "end": "01:20:46", "text": "larger scales."}, {"start": "01:20:44", "end": "01:20:49", "text": ">> Uh, and so all of these algorithms. So,"}, {"start": "01:20:46", "end": "01:20:52", "text": "so that's what this game was was known"}, {"start": "01:20:49", "end": "01:20:53", "text": "for. Uh, it's still out there now. Uh,"}, {"start": "01:20:52", "end": "01:20:55", "text": "but it was considered a boring game when"}, {"start": "01:20:53", "end": "01:20:56", "text": "it first came out, but now they've added"}, {"start": "01:20:55", "end": "01:20:56", "text": "supposedly. I haven't played it in a"}, {"start": "01:20:56", "end": "01:20:57", "text": "long time."}, {"start": "01:20:56", "end": "01:21:00", "text": ">> Me neither,"}, {"start": "01:20:57", "end": "01:21:02", "text": ">> but supposedly it's gotten better. Uh"}, {"start": "01:21:00", "end": "01:21:06", "text": "but it was known for this large number"}, {"start": "01:21:02", "end": "01:21:09", "text": "of worlds and almost infinite generated"}, {"start": "01:21:06", "end": "01:21:11", "text": "on demand. Like that's the key phrase"}, {"start": "01:21:09", "end": "01:21:13", "text": "that we need there. And so why 18"}, {"start": "01:21:11", "end": "01:21:15", "text": "quintilion? Well, it's because it's two"}, {"start": "01:21:13", "end": "01:21:16", "text": "to the power of 64."}, {"start": "01:21:15", "end": "01:21:17", "text": ">> Right."}, {"start": "01:21:16", "end": "01:21:18", "text": ">> Right. That's why it's that very"}, {"start": "01:21:17", "end": "01:21:19", "text": "specific number."}, {"start": "01:21:18", "end": "01:21:22", "text": ">> So this is 64 bits."}, {"start": "01:21:19", "end": "01:21:23", "text": ">> You had 64 bits that kept track of, you"}, {"start": "01:21:22", "end": "01:21:25", "text": "know, how many worlds do you want to"}, {"start": "01:21:23", "end": "01:21:27", "text": "keep track of? Now there's no reason"}, {"start": "01:21:25", "end": "01:21:30", "text": "that's the limit. I mean they could also"}, {"start": "01:21:27", "end": "01:21:33", "text": "have used 128 bits but it was very"}, {"start": "01:21:30", "end": "01:21:35", "text": "convenient to to use like 64 bits"}, {"start": "01:21:33", "end": "01:21:37", "text": "because that's that's a commonly used"}, {"start": "01:21:35", "end": "01:21:41", "text": "size of what's called a word which is"}, {"start": "01:21:37", "end": "01:21:43", "text": "like multiple bytes um within coding. Uh"}, {"start": "01:21:41", "end": "01:21:46", "text": "and so you see this very interesting"}, {"start": "01:21:43", "end": "01:21:49", "text": "interesting number. It's also by the way"}, {"start": "01:21:46", "end": "01:21:50", "text": "a big number related to the chess u the"}, {"start": "01:21:49", "end": "01:21:52", "text": "chess story from ancient India."}, {"start": "01:21:50", "end": "01:21:53", "text": ">> Yes it is. Go now you have to tell that"}, {"start": "01:21:52", "end": "01:21:55", "text": "story. It's a great one. I'll tell that"}, {"start": "01:21:53", "end": "01:21:57", "text": "story and and later we'll tie it to"}, {"start": "01:21:55", "end": "01:21:58", "text": "exponential problems and quantum"}, {"start": "01:21:57", "end": "01:21:59", "text": "computing but for now I'll just tell the"}, {"start": "01:21:58", "end": "01:22:00", "text": "story"}, {"start": "01:21:59", "end": "01:22:01", "text": ">> because we're talking about that number."}, {"start": "01:22:00", "end": "01:22:02", "text": "So there was a king in India who loved"}, {"start": "01:22:01", "end": "01:22:04", "text": "to play chess"}, {"start": "01:22:02", "end": "01:22:07", "text": ">> and he beat everybody and he there was"}, {"start": "01:22:04", "end": "01:22:08", "text": "this wise man or sage and he's like I"}, {"start": "01:22:07", "end": "01:22:10", "text": "want to play chess with you and the sage"}, {"start": "01:22:08", "end": "01:22:11", "text": "goes nah I don't really want to play."}, {"start": "01:22:10", "end": "01:22:13", "text": "King goes really I'll give you anything"}, {"start": "01:22:11", "end": "01:22:13", "text": "you want if you'll just play chess with"}, {"start": "01:22:13", "end": "01:22:14", "text": "me"}, {"start": "01:22:13", "end": "01:22:16", "text": ">> anything."}, {"start": "01:22:14", "end": "01:22:18", "text": ">> Anything. And the wise man goes, \"Okay,"}, {"start": "01:22:16", "end": "01:22:20", "text": "if I win,\" meaning if the king loses,"}, {"start": "01:22:18", "end": "01:22:22", "text": "you'll give me one grain of rice for the"}, {"start": "01:22:20", "end": "01:22:23", "text": "first square in the chessboard, and then"}, {"start": "01:22:22", "end": "01:22:25", "text": "you'll give me two grains of rice for"}, {"start": "01:22:23", "end": "01:22:28", "text": "the second square, and then double it to"}, {"start": "01:22:25", "end": "01:22:30", "text": "four, and double it to eight, double it"}, {"start": "01:22:28", "end": "01:22:32", "text": "to 16 for all the squares of the"}, {"start": "01:22:30", "end": "01:22:33", "text": "chessboard. King of Okay, that's not a"}, {"start": "01:22:32", "end": "01:22:35", "text": "very big price to pay."}, {"start": "01:22:33", "end": "01:22:36", "text": ">> That's only 64 squares."}, {"start": "01:22:35", "end": "01:22:38", "text": ">> Yeah. And I And I told you I'd give you"}, {"start": "01:22:36", "end": "01:22:39", "text": "anything. This is all you want. Well, of"}, {"start": "01:22:38", "end": "01:22:41", "text": "course, the the wise man wins the game"}, {"start": "01:22:39", "end": "01:22:44", "text": "of chess. And then the king realizes"}, {"start": "01:22:41", "end": "01:22:46", "text": "when you go two to the power of 64, you"}, {"start": "01:22:44", "end": "01:22:48", "text": "double it 64 times. It was more grains"}, {"start": "01:22:46", "end": "01:22:49", "text": "of rice than would fit in all of India."}, {"start": "01:22:48", "end": "01:22:51", "text": ">> That's right."}, {"start": "01:22:49", "end": "01:22:53", "text": ">> Uh and that's an example of a big"}, {"start": "01:22:51", "end": "01:22:56", "text": "exponential problem. Uh and how it"}, {"start": "01:22:53", "end": "01:22:57", "text": "grows. And so what we do as computer"}, {"start": "01:22:56", "end": "01:23:00", "text": "scientists is we"}, {"start": "01:22:57", "end": "01:23:03", "text": ">> optimize and figure out how much of that"}, {"start": "01:23:00", "end": "01:23:05", "text": "do we really need at any given time and"}, {"start": "01:23:03", "end": "01:23:07", "text": "we cache it. So that's I think ties"}, {"start": "01:23:05", "end": "01:23:11", "text": "together this idea of how video games"}, {"start": "01:23:07", "end": "01:23:13", "text": "only render that which is observed."}, {"start": "01:23:11", "end": "01:23:15", "text": ">> So tell us about caching and and lazy"}, {"start": "01:23:13", "end": "01:23:16", "text": "loading as well."}, {"start": "01:23:15", "end": "01:23:18", "text": ">> Yeah. I mean do should we draw the"}, {"start": "01:23:16", "end": "01:23:18", "text": "analogy first to the quantum physics?"}, {"start": "01:23:18", "end": "01:23:20", "text": "However you want to do it."}, {"start": "01:23:18", "end": "01:23:22", "text": ">> Yeah. So in quantum physics there's this"}, {"start": "01:23:20", "end": "01:23:24", "text": "thing called the observer effect"}, {"start": "01:23:22", "end": "01:23:26", "text": ">> which I think everybody has heard of."}, {"start": "01:23:24", "end": "01:23:28", "text": "Uh, and it's based on the double slit"}, {"start": "01:23:26", "end": "01:23:31", "text": "experiment where light goes through two"}, {"start": "01:23:28", "end": "01:23:33", "text": "slits and if it's a particle, if you"}, {"start": "01:23:31", "end": "01:23:34", "text": "have if a particle is solid, you can"}, {"start": "01:23:33", "end": "01:23:36", "text": "really only go through one of those"}, {"start": "01:23:34", "end": "01:23:38", "text": "slits. You can't go through both."}, {"start": "01:23:36", "end": "01:23:40", "text": ">> But if it acts as a wave,"}, {"start": "01:23:38", "end": "01:23:41", "text": ">> it basically, you know, spreads out with"}, {"start": "01:23:40", "end": "01:23:43", "text": "this weird interference pattern. It's"}, {"start": "01:23:41", "end": "01:23:45", "text": "like it's going through both. And what"}, {"start": "01:23:43", "end": "01:23:48", "text": "quantum physics is telling us is that"}, {"start": "01:23:45", "end": "01:23:52", "text": "it's not until it's observed or measured"}, {"start": "01:23:48", "end": "01:23:53", "text": "that the particle decides which slit"}, {"start": "01:23:52", "end": "01:23:56", "text": "it's going to go through or even which"}, {"start": "01:23:53", "end": "01:23:58", "text": "slit it just went through. Now, that's a"}, {"start": "01:23:56", "end": "01:23:59", "text": "weird kind of thing because if it's a"}, {"start": "01:23:58", "end": "01:24:02", "text": "particle, it could only have gone"}, {"start": "01:23:59", "end": "01:24:05", "text": "through one. But quantum mechanics has a"}, {"start": "01:24:02", "end": "01:24:07", "text": "thing called superposition."}, {"start": "01:24:05", "end": "01:24:08", "text": ">> And the superposition says it's in"}, {"start": "01:24:07", "end": "01:24:10", "text": "multiple states"}, {"start": "01:24:08", "end": "01:24:11", "text": ">> or in all states"}, {"start": "01:24:10", "end": "01:24:13", "text": ">> in all states. And so it's at the same"}, {"start": "01:24:11", "end": "01:24:15", "text": "time it's a supererset of all the"}, {"start": "01:24:13", "end": "01:24:16", "text": "possible positions"}, {"start": "01:24:15", "end": "01:24:17", "text": ">> if you will. That's where the term comes"}, {"start": "01:24:16", "end": "01:24:19", "text": "from, right?"}, {"start": "01:24:17", "end": "01:24:20", "text": ">> It's also used a lot in quantum"}, {"start": "01:24:19", "end": "01:24:22", "text": "computing which we can talk about later"}, {"start": "01:24:20", "end": "01:24:24", "text": "if we get if we have time."}, {"start": "01:24:22", "end": "01:24:26", "text": ">> But it's in a state of superp position"}, {"start": "01:24:24", "end": "01:24:28", "text": "and then when it gets observed it gets"}, {"start": "01:24:26", "end": "01:24:30", "text": "rendered. Now this is usually where I"}, {"start": "01:24:28", "end": "01:24:33", "text": "bring up Schroinger's cat."}, {"start": "01:24:30", "end": "01:24:35", "text": ">> Oh, we can if you want to."}, {"start": "01:24:33", "end": "01:24:36", "text": ">> People have heard it."}, {"start": "01:24:35", "end": "01:24:38", "text": ">> People have heard it and I and and"}, {"start": "01:24:36", "end": "01:24:40", "text": "Schroinger was trolling because he"}, {"start": "01:24:38", "end": "01:24:41", "text": "didn't like this. But but we can use it."}, {"start": "01:24:40", "end": "01:24:43", "text": "We can use it."}, {"start": "01:24:41", "end": "01:24:45", "text": ">> Shining thought it was bizarre, right?"}, {"start": "01:24:43", "end": "01:24:47", "text": "And didn't like it. And he said, \"Look,"}, {"start": "01:24:45", "end": "01:24:48", "text": "it's ridiculous to say that a cat is in"}, {"start": "01:24:47", "end": "01:24:50", "text": "superp position, right?"}, {"start": "01:24:48", "end": "01:24:52", "text": ">> It's either alive or dead. We won't get"}, {"start": "01:24:50", "end": "01:24:55", "text": "into the details, right? But it's in the"}, {"start": "01:24:52", "end": "01:24:58", "text": "superp position until you open the box.\""}, {"start": "01:24:55", "end": "01:24:59", "text": ">> Now, common sense says, \"No, no, no."}, {"start": "01:24:58", "end": "01:25:01", "text": "Hold on. It's either alive or dead"}, {"start": "01:24:59", "end": "01:25:03", "text": "already. We just haven't looked in the"}, {"start": "01:25:01", "end": "01:25:06", "text": "box, so we don't know if it's alive or"}, {"start": "01:25:03", "end": "01:25:08", "text": "dead.\" Uh but no, that's not what"}, {"start": "01:25:06", "end": "01:25:09", "text": "quantum indeterminacy is actually"}, {"start": "01:25:08", "end": "01:25:11", "text": "saying. Right."}, {"start": "01:25:09", "end": "01:25:11", "text": ">> It's saying it's in both of those"}, {"start": "01:25:11", "end": "01:25:13", "text": "states."}, {"start": "01:25:11", "end": "01:25:15", "text": ">> That's why he was wrong."}, {"start": "01:25:13", "end": "01:25:17", "text": ">> Right. He was wrong. Yeah. He ended up"}, {"start": "01:25:15", "end": "01:25:19", "text": "being wrong. Uh and there there's an"}, {"start": "01:25:17", "end": "01:25:20", "text": "aside to this if we get on to talking"}, {"start": "01:25:19", "end": "01:25:21", "text": "about multiple timelines with Schroinger"}, {"start": "01:25:20", "end": "01:25:21", "text": "that we'll get."}, {"start": "01:25:21", "end": "01:25:25", "text": ">> We have to."}, {"start": "01:25:21", "end": "01:25:26", "text": ">> Yeah. But I looked at that as a a guy"}, {"start": "01:25:25", "end": "01:25:28", "text": "doing video games and a guy who's been"}, {"start": "01:25:26", "end": "01:25:32", "text": "optimizing code all my life and I"}, {"start": "01:25:28", "end": "01:25:34", "text": "realized, oh, the rule of thumb there is"}, {"start": "01:25:32", "end": "01:25:36", "text": "only render that which is observed."}, {"start": "01:25:34", "end": "01:25:38", "text": "Until then, it stays as a set of"}, {"start": "01:25:36", "end": "01:25:40", "text": "information and a set of probabilities."}, {"start": "01:25:38", "end": "01:25:44", "text": "And I thought that's just like how we"}, {"start": "01:25:40", "end": "01:25:47", "text": "build video games. We render the part of"}, {"start": "01:25:44", "end": "01:25:50", "text": "the world that gets observed. Uh now in"}, {"start": "01:25:47", "end": "01:25:52", "text": "the old Newtonian model, the world just"}, {"start": "01:25:50", "end": "01:25:54", "text": "exists. all the particles are there and"}, {"start": "01:25:52", "end": "01:25:56", "text": "we move through it. It's kind of like"}, {"start": "01:25:54", "end": "01:25:58", "text": "King's Quest where you can move the guy"}, {"start": "01:25:56", "end": "01:25:59", "text": "around but all the pixels are there. But"}, {"start": "01:25:58", "end": "01:26:03", "text": "in quantum mechanics, it's like the"}, {"start": "01:25:59", "end": "01:26:06", "text": "pixels are generated in dynamically. And"}, {"start": "01:26:03", "end": "01:26:09", "text": "so that was a big uh that was a big"}, {"start": "01:26:06", "end": "01:26:11", "text": "insight for me that oh"}, {"start": "01:26:09", "end": "01:26:15", "text": "quantum indeterminacy is so bizarre. Why"}, {"start": "01:26:11", "end": "01:26:17", "text": "would it possibly exist? And I said well"}, {"start": "01:26:15", "end": "01:26:18", "text": "because it's an optimization technique."}, {"start": "01:26:17", "end": "01:26:21", "text": ">> That's right. If you have limited"}, {"start": "01:26:18", "end": "01:26:23", "text": "resources, you only need to render that"}, {"start": "01:26:21", "end": "01:26:25", "text": "which is observed. Now, that brings up"}, {"start": "01:26:23", "end": "01:26:28", "text": "all kinds of questions about what"}, {"start": "01:26:25", "end": "01:26:29", "text": "happens if there's multiple observers or"}, {"start": "01:26:28", "end": "01:26:31", "text": "different people seeing different"}, {"start": "01:26:29", "end": "01:26:33", "text": "things. But there's also something"}, {"start": "01:26:31", "end": "01:26:35", "text": "called caching in computer science. And"}, {"start": "01:26:33", "end": "01:26:38", "text": "what we do is if I have just been to"}, {"start": "01:26:35", "end": "01:26:40", "text": "this world and it gets generated or this"}, {"start": "01:26:38", "end": "01:26:42", "text": "room, let's say, and then you bring your"}, {"start": "01:26:40", "end": "01:26:44", "text": "avatar into the room, well, your"}, {"start": "01:26:42", "end": "01:26:46", "text": "computer is going to render it faster"}, {"start": "01:26:44", "end": "01:26:48", "text": "because the the data is already there."}, {"start": "01:26:46", "end": "01:26:50", "text": "But more than that, the next room is"}, {"start": "01:26:48", "end": "01:26:51", "text": "cached and so is the next room over"}, {"start": "01:26:50", "end": "01:26:53", "text": "there on the"}, {"start": "01:26:51", "end": "01:26:55", "text": ">> because there's a probability that you"}, {"start": "01:26:53", "end": "01:26:58", "text": "might go into one of these places. So"}, {"start": "01:26:55", "end": "01:27:00", "text": "you can sort of preload the algorithm."}, {"start": "01:26:58", "end": "01:27:00", "text": ">> Yes. It's preloading. Right."}, {"start": "01:27:00", "end": "01:27:01", "text": ">> Right."}, {"start": "01:27:00", "end": "01:27:03", "text": ">> It's like, oh, he didn't go in there."}, {"start": "01:27:01", "end": "01:27:05", "text": "That's So that's fine. We have this one"}, {"start": "01:27:03", "end": "01:27:06", "text": "preloaded. So render that."}, {"start": "01:27:05", "end": "01:27:09", "text": ">> Right. Exactly. So you render it"}, {"start": "01:27:06", "end": "01:27:11", "text": "quickly. So it's all about performance"}, {"start": "01:27:09", "end": "01:27:14", "text": "because uh there are operations which"}, {"start": "01:27:11", "end": "01:27:16", "text": "are slower or more expensive and"}, {"start": "01:27:14", "end": "01:27:18", "text": "operations which are quick. And in a"}, {"start": "01:27:16", "end": "01:27:21", "text": "multiplayer game, the most expensive"}, {"start": "01:27:18", "end": "01:27:22", "text": "operation is to go from your computer to"}, {"start": "01:27:21", "end": "01:27:24", "text": "the server on the internet. That's the"}, {"start": "01:27:22", "end": "01:27:24", "text": "slowest part of the whole process,"}, {"start": "01:27:24", "end": "01:27:26", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "01:27:24", "end": "01:27:28", "text": ">> And then bring information back. Now,"}, {"start": "01:27:26", "end": "01:27:31", "text": "imagine there's, you know, a million"}, {"start": "01:27:28", "end": "01:27:34", "text": "players all doing this. Well, you have"}, {"start": "01:27:31", "end": "01:27:36", "text": "to kind of optimize in such a way that"}, {"start": "01:27:34", "end": "01:27:38", "text": "assets can be loaded. It was funny a few"}, {"start": "01:27:36", "end": "01:27:39", "text": "years ago, uh, these filmmakers called"}, {"start": "01:27:38", "end": "01:27:40", "text": "me called me up. Uh it's been a while"}, {"start": "01:27:39", "end": "01:27:42", "text": "since I've talked to them and they said,"}, {"start": "01:27:40", "end": "01:27:45", "text": "\"Hey, we're trying to develop this show"}, {"start": "01:27:42", "end": "01:27:47", "text": "for Netflix and it's called the these"}, {"start": "01:27:45", "end": "01:27:48", "text": "guys are live in a little uh small town"}, {"start": "01:27:47", "end": "01:27:52", "text": "and they look up and they see this"}, {"start": "01:27:48", "end": "01:27:53", "text": "dialogue box that says sky not found,"}, {"start": "01:27:52", "end": "01:27:54", "text": ">> you know, which is like an asset. What"}, {"start": "01:27:53", "end": "01:27:58", "text": "happens in video games when it can't"}, {"start": "01:27:54", "end": "01:28:01", "text": "find your assets?\" Uh but so co caching"}, {"start": "01:27:58", "end": "01:28:04", "text": "is basically a way to save what's"}, {"start": "01:28:01", "end": "01:28:07", "text": "needed. And so in this model of using"}, {"start": "01:28:04", "end": "01:28:08", "text": "the observer effect like a video game,"}, {"start": "01:28:07", "end": "01:28:11", "text": "as long as there's at least one"}, {"start": "01:28:08", "end": "01:28:12", "text": "observer, then you still have that"}, {"start": "01:28:11", "end": "01:28:15", "text": "rendering there."}, {"start": "01:28:12", "end": "01:28:17", "text": ">> And then you also have multiple levels"}, {"start": "01:28:15", "end": "01:28:19", "text": "of what game designers would call LODs"}, {"start": "01:28:17", "end": "01:28:20", "text": "just in case, right?"}, {"start": "01:28:19", "end": "01:28:22", "text": ">> Yes. Right."}, {"start": "01:28:20", "end": "01:28:24", "text": ">> So that LOD is a level of detail. So"}, {"start": "01:28:22", "end": "01:28:26", "text": "we'll show it to you, but just just as"}, {"start": "01:28:24", "end": "01:28:27", "text": "much as you need to,"}, {"start": "01:28:26", "end": "01:28:29", "text": ">> right? Especially like we're we're"}, {"start": "01:28:27", "end": "01:28:30", "text": "talking about things off in the"}, {"start": "01:28:29", "end": "01:28:31", "text": "distance,"}, {"start": "01:28:30", "end": "01:28:33", "text": ">> right? And then you can go in and the"}, {"start": "01:28:31", "end": "01:28:36", "text": "assets can become higher and higher"}, {"start": "01:28:33", "end": "01:28:38", "text": "resolution. Kind of like I I don't know"}, {"start": "01:28:36", "end": "01:28:40", "text": "if people remember this, but like when"}, {"start": "01:28:38", "end": "01:28:41", "text": "JPEGs used to load on uh old web"}, {"start": "01:28:40", "end": "01:28:41", "text": "browsers."}, {"start": "01:28:41", "end": "01:28:42", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "01:28:41", "end": "01:28:44", "text": ">> You know, that was an expensive"}, {"start": "01:28:42", "end": "01:28:45", "text": "operation. Today we think, oh, it's no"}, {"start": "01:28:44", "end": "01:28:48", "text": "big deal. I'm going to download a whole"}, {"start": "01:28:45", "end": "01:28:50", "text": "video like on wireless, but back then it"}, {"start": "01:28:48", "end": "01:28:52", "text": "was a big deal. And so the text would"}, {"start": "01:28:50", "end": "01:28:53", "text": "load first and then slowly it would fill"}, {"start": "01:28:52", "end": "01:28:55", "text": "in y,"}, {"start": "01:28:53", "end": "01:28:57", "text": ">> you know, the actual images over time."}, {"start": "01:28:55", "end": "01:28:58", "text": "And that's it's it's an optimization"}, {"start": "01:28:57", "end": "01:28:59", "text": "technique. So"}, {"start": "01:28:58", "end": "01:29:02", "text": ">> and now that's called lazy loading on."}, {"start": "01:28:59", "end": "01:29:05", "text": ">> Yeah. And so lazy loading is a good way"}, {"start": "01:29:02", "end": "01:29:07", "text": "to think about it. Uh and in fact"}, {"start": "01:29:05", "end": "01:29:09", "text": "there's an underlying concept called"}, {"start": "01:29:07", "end": "01:29:11", "text": "lazy evaluation"}, {"start": "01:29:09", "end": "01:29:14", "text": "which goes down to the code level. So it"}, {"start": "01:29:11", "end": "01:29:16", "text": "basically says don't execute any code"}, {"start": "01:29:14", "end": "01:29:18", "text": "unless you absolutely need to."}, {"start": "01:29:16", "end": "01:29:20", "text": ">> So what is it holding on to?"}, {"start": "01:29:18", "end": "01:29:21", "text": ">> So what it does is it looks for"}, {"start": "01:29:20", "end": "01:29:22", "text": "references."}, {"start": "01:29:21", "end": "01:29:24", "text": ">> Oh."}, {"start": "01:29:22", "end": "01:29:26", "text": ">> So it's actually a timing issue more"}, {"start": "01:29:24", "end": "01:29:28", "text": "than right. So before we're talking"}, {"start": "01:29:26", "end": "01:29:30", "text": "about optimizing the number of bits you"}, {"start": "01:29:28", "end": "01:29:32", "text": "send, we're talking about optimizing"}, {"start": "01:29:30", "end": "01:29:35", "text": "your GPU, your graphics processing unit"}, {"start": "01:29:32", "end": "01:29:38", "text": "for for drawing things. But this is"}, {"start": "01:29:35", "end": "01:29:40", "text": "optimizing the CPU. And what it says is"}, {"start": "01:29:38", "end": "01:29:43", "text": "if you had like a really long equation"}, {"start": "01:29:40", "end": "01:29:45", "text": "x= 1 + 2 to the power of this plus blah"}, {"start": "01:29:43", "end": "01:29:47", "text": "blah blah blah blah and then you never"}, {"start": "01:29:45", "end": "01:29:50", "text": "use that variable x later in the"}, {"start": "01:29:47", "end": "01:29:52", "text": "program. It's not needed. Now maybe it's"}, {"start": "01:29:50", "end": "01:29:54", "text": "used, you know, a couple days later the"}, {"start": "01:29:52", "end": "01:29:56", "text": "program's running and now it needs x."}, {"start": "01:29:54", "end": "01:29:58", "text": "Okay, I'm going to go back and calculate"}, {"start": "01:29:56", "end": "01:29:59", "text": "that big long equation because that's an"}, {"start": "01:29:58", "end": "01:30:00", "text": "expensive operation,"}, {"start": "01:29:59", "end": "01:30:02", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "01:30:00", "end": "01:30:05", "text": ">> Uh and so lazy evaluation is actually"}, {"start": "01:30:02", "end": "01:30:08", "text": "built into a lot of programming, you"}, {"start": "01:30:05", "end": "01:30:11", "text": "know, languages and compilers and"}, {"start": "01:30:08", "end": "01:30:14", "text": "virtual machines like Java etc. which"}, {"start": "01:30:11", "end": "01:30:16", "text": "says basically only run the code that"}, {"start": "01:30:14", "end": "01:30:17", "text": "you really need to run. It's like having"}, {"start": "01:30:16", "end": "01:30:19", "text": "comments like when when when you have"}, {"start": "01:30:17", "end": "01:30:21", "text": "comments in code. I mean again coding is"}, {"start": "01:30:19", "end": "01:30:23", "text": "becoming a lost skill now because of AI"}, {"start": "01:30:21", "end": "01:30:24", "text": "but the comments aren't part of the"}, {"start": "01:30:23", "end": "01:30:26", "text": "actual program. they're not really"}, {"start": "01:30:24", "end": "01:30:28", "text": "needed. So when it gets compiled, it"}, {"start": "01:30:26", "end": "01:30:30", "text": "doesn't compile the comments. It just"}, {"start": "01:30:28", "end": "01:30:32", "text": "gets rid of them and it's just compiling"}, {"start": "01:30:30", "end": "01:30:34", "text": "the code parts. Now when you're running"}, {"start": "01:30:32", "end": "01:30:36", "text": "it, I I remember I was back at MIT and"}, {"start": "01:30:34", "end": "01:30:38", "text": "we did a I had a professor who was"}, {"start": "01:30:36", "end": "01:30:38", "text": "studying parallel processing at the"}, {"start": "01:30:38", "end": "01:30:42", "text": "time."}, {"start": "01:30:38", "end": "01:30:44", "text": ">> I think later he became CTO of Sun uh"}, {"start": "01:30:42", "end": "01:30:46", "text": "Sun Microsystems and bunch of other"}, {"start": "01:30:44", "end": "01:30:48", "text": "things as well. But but he was like"}, {"start": "01:30:46", "end": "01:30:50", "text": "trying to come up with a way when you"}, {"start": "01:30:48", "end": "01:30:52", "text": "have multiple processors"}, {"start": "01:30:50", "end": "01:30:55", "text": "uh and like with AI today GPUs are the"}, {"start": "01:30:52", "end": "01:30:58", "text": "constraining factor. Um this is you see"}, {"start": "01:30:55", "end": "01:31:01", "text": "video games in most technology advances."}, {"start": "01:30:58", "end": "01:31:05", "text": "Uh like AI uses GPUs. Cryptocurrency you"}, {"start": "01:31:01", "end": "01:31:07", "text": "know mining uses GPUs. Uh and GPUs were"}, {"start": "01:31:05", "end": "01:31:09", "text": "developed for graphics in video games."}, {"start": "01:31:07", "end": "01:31:11", "text": ">> Is this why most games are built on"}, {"start": "01:31:09", "end": "01:31:12", "text": "engines? Because a lot of that math has"}, {"start": "01:31:11", "end": "01:31:14", "text": "already been handled."}, {"start": "01:31:12", "end": "01:31:17", "text": ">> Yeah. Because engines make it much"}, {"start": "01:31:14", "end": "01:31:19", "text": "easier to build a game because what"}, {"start": "01:31:17", "end": "01:31:21", "text": "would happen is in the old days everyone"}, {"start": "01:31:19", "end": "01:31:23", "text": "had to write everything from scratch"}, {"start": "01:31:21", "end": "01:31:25", "text": "including the physics engine. Sure."}, {"start": "01:31:23", "end": "01:31:27", "text": ">> The loading engine like the things we"}, {"start": "01:31:25", "end": "01:31:29", "text": "just talked about you'd have to write"}, {"start": "01:31:27", "end": "01:31:31", "text": "you know how do you take a 3D model and"}, {"start": "01:31:29", "end": "01:31:33", "text": "put like the rendering or the textures"}, {"start": "01:31:31", "end": "01:31:36", "text": "which is like putting the the clothes"}, {"start": "01:31:33", "end": "01:31:38", "text": "and the the skin on top of the person"}, {"start": "01:31:36", "end": "01:31:40", "text": ">> particle systems. particle systems, all"}, {"start": "01:31:38", "end": "01:31:43", "text": "that stuff is a has been built over many"}, {"start": "01:31:40", "end": "01:31:45", "text": "years. And in the old days, every team"}, {"start": "01:31:43", "end": "01:31:47", "text": "had to write all that themselves,"}, {"start": "01:31:45", "end": "01:31:48", "text": ">> which would just take way too long,"}, {"start": "01:31:47", "end": "01:31:50", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "01:31:48", "end": "01:31:51", "text": ">> Uh now there's Unreal and there's Unity."}, {"start": "01:31:50", "end": "01:31:52", "text": "Unity became big partly because the"}, {"start": "01:31:51", "end": "01:31:53", "text": "mobile game industry."}, {"start": "01:31:52", "end": "01:31:56", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"start": "01:31:53", "end": "01:31:58", "text": ">> Because it was a way of doing uh a game"}, {"start": "01:31:56", "end": "01:32:00", "text": "on iOS and on Android,"}, {"start": "01:31:58", "end": "01:32:01", "text": ">> right? once write the code because"}, {"start": "01:32:00", "end": "01:32:02", "text": "before that people used to write their"}, {"start": "01:32:01", "end": "01:32:06", "text": "games"}, {"start": "01:32:02", "end": "01:32:09", "text": ">> directly on in C or objective C or Java"}, {"start": "01:32:06", "end": "01:32:11", "text": "for the other one. But so it the whole"}, {"start": "01:32:09", "end": "01:32:14", "text": "engine makes it easier to build new"}, {"start": "01:32:11", "end": "01:32:16", "text": "worlds on top of it. And then some"}, {"start": "01:32:14", "end": "01:32:18", "text": "companies like you know the Unreal they"}, {"start": "01:32:16", "end": "01:32:20", "text": "they made their engine available to"}, {"start": "01:32:18", "end": "01:32:22", "text": "other people as a product so they can"}, {"start": "01:32:20", "end": "01:32:23", "text": "build games on I think it was the Unreal"}, {"start": "01:32:22", "end": "01:32:23", "text": "Tournament initially."}, {"start": "01:32:23", "end": "01:32:25", "text": ">> Yeah it was"}, {"start": "01:32:23", "end": "01:32:27", "text": ">> is what it was built as right. Yeah. And"}, {"start": "01:32:25", "end": "01:32:28", "text": "then it became you know a pretty solid"}, {"start": "01:32:27", "end": "01:32:30", "text": "engine. And it's probably one of the"}, {"start": "01:32:28", "end": "01:32:30", "text": "best ones out there right now."}, {"start": "01:32:30", "end": "01:32:32", "text": ">> My favorite."}, {"start": "01:32:30", "end": "01:32:32", "text": ">> Oh, yeah. You got you guys use it here,"}, {"start": "01:32:32", "end": "01:32:34", "text": "right? Yep."}, {"start": "01:32:32", "end": "01:32:34", "text": ">> U and and so where were we going with"}, {"start": "01:32:34", "end": "01:32:35", "text": "this? Oh,"}, {"start": "01:32:34", "end": "01:32:37", "text": ">> parallel."}, {"start": "01:32:35", "end": "01:32:40", "text": ">> Yeah, the parallels between quantum"}, {"start": "01:32:37", "end": "01:32:43", "text": "mechanics uh and the way that we write"}, {"start": "01:32:40", "end": "01:32:45", "text": "code. Uh because the big question is not"}, {"start": "01:32:43", "end": "01:32:47", "text": "just does this happen because I think"}, {"start": "01:32:45", "end": "01:32:48", "text": "you know quantum mechanics has been"}, {"start": "01:32:47", "end": "01:32:48", "text": "validated."}, {"start": "01:32:48", "end": "01:32:51", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "01:32:48", "end": "01:32:53", "text": ">> Uh this stuff happens. We don't know why"}, {"start": "01:32:51", "end": "01:32:55", "text": "it happens and we don't know how to"}, {"start": "01:32:53", "end": "01:32:59", "text": "think about it or interpret it. Now"}, {"start": "01:32:55", "end": "01:33:01", "text": "there's another uh B. So the first most"}, {"start": "01:32:59", "end": "01:33:01", "text": "popular interpretation is the Copenhagen"}, {"start": "01:33:01", "end": "01:33:02", "text": "interpretation,"}, {"start": "01:33:01", "end": "01:33:03", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "01:33:02", "end": "01:33:05", "text": ">> Which basically says that all these"}, {"start": "01:33:03", "end": "01:33:09", "text": "probabilities exist and then the"}, {"start": "01:33:05", "end": "01:33:11", "text": "probability wave collapses down when an"}, {"start": "01:33:09", "end": "01:33:11", "text": "observation or a measurement has been"}, {"start": "01:33:11", "end": "01:33:12", "text": "made."}, {"start": "01:33:11", "end": "01:33:13", "text": ">> Right? That's the wave function"}, {"start": "01:33:12", "end": "01:33:14", "text": "collapse."}, {"start": "01:33:13", "end": "01:33:16", "text": ">> The wave function collapsed. And that to"}, {"start": "01:33:14", "end": "01:33:16", "text": "me reminded me of what I've just been"}, {"start": "01:33:16", "end": "01:33:17", "text": "talking about."}, {"start": "01:33:16", "end": "01:33:18", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "01:33:17", "end": "01:33:21", "text": ">> Which is the optimization and the lazy"}, {"start": "01:33:18", "end": "01:33:22", "text": "evaluation and the caching and the"}, {"start": "01:33:21", "end": "01:33:23", "text": "rendering and the first person point of"}, {"start": "01:33:22", "end": "01:33:24", "text": "view."}, {"start": "01:33:23", "end": "01:33:25", "text": ">> You didn't need to know the position"}, {"start": "01:33:24", "end": "01:33:26", "text": "yet,"}, {"start": "01:33:25", "end": "01:33:27", "text": ">> right? Yeah. We didn't really need to"}, {"start": "01:33:26", "end": "01:33:28", "text": "know. No, it was there."}, {"start": "01:33:27", "end": "01:33:30", "text": ">> What's going on?"}, {"start": "01:33:28", "end": "01:33:32", "text": ">> And you can calculate it."}, {"start": "01:33:30", "end": "01:33:35", "text": ">> You can calculate what might have"}, {"start": "01:33:32", "end": "01:33:36", "text": "happened before then as well. This will"}, {"start": "01:33:35", "end": "01:33:38", "text": "get more interesting if we talk about"}, {"start": "01:33:36", "end": "01:33:39", "text": "multiple timelines. So I'll come I'll"}, {"start": "01:33:38", "end": "01:33:42", "text": "come back to that."}, {"start": "01:33:39", "end": "01:33:44", "text": ">> Um and so so the other popular"}, {"start": "01:33:42", "end": "01:33:47", "text": "interpretation of quantum mechanics with"}, {"start": "01:33:44", "end": "01:33:48", "text": "it with physicists is now they didn't"}, {"start": "01:33:47", "end": "01:33:49", "text": "like this idea that you needed an"}, {"start": "01:33:48", "end": "01:33:50", "text": "observer, right?"}, {"start": "01:33:49", "end": "01:33:52", "text": ">> No, they didn't."}, {"start": "01:33:50", "end": "01:33:53", "text": ">> Especially a conscious observer. And so"}, {"start": "01:33:52", "end": "01:33:55", "text": "they're like, okay, can we find an"}, {"start": "01:33:53", "end": "01:33:56", "text": "alternative? So, you know, one of my"}, {"start": "01:33:55", "end": "01:33:58", "text": "favorite physicists from the 20th"}, {"start": "01:33:56", "end": "01:33:58", "text": "century is a guy named John Wheeler."}, {"start": "01:33:58", "end": "01:33:59", "text": ">> Mine, too."}, {"start": "01:33:58", "end": "01:34:00", "text": ">> Yeah. He was a great"}, {"start": "01:33:59", "end": "01:34:02", "text": ">> delayed choice. Yes."}, {"start": "01:34:00", "end": "01:34:04", "text": ">> Delayed choice. And so, he not only was"}, {"start": "01:34:02", "end": "01:34:06", "text": "at Princeton down the hall from"}, {"start": "01:34:04", "end": "01:34:08", "text": "Einstein, uh, but he was also the"}, {"start": "01:34:06", "end": "01:34:10", "text": "supervisor, uh, a PhD supervisor for"}, {"start": "01:34:08", "end": "01:34:11", "text": "Richard Fineman. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:34:10", "end": "01:34:14", "text": ">> Who's a Nobel Prize winning physicist at"}, {"start": "01:34:11", "end": "01:34:16", "text": "Caltech. And many people know about him"}, {"start": "01:34:14", "end": "01:34:18", "text": "from the Challenger explosion. Was it"}, {"start": "01:34:16", "end": "01:34:20", "text": "the Challenger? Columbia Challenger in"}, {"start": "01:34:18", "end": "01:34:23", "text": "1986 when he he like took the little"}, {"start": "01:34:20", "end": "01:34:24", "text": "O-rings and put them in uh in ice water"}, {"start": "01:34:23", "end": "01:34:25", "text": "and said, \"Look, let's look at what"}, {"start": "01:34:24", "end": "01:34:26", "text": "happens to these.\""}, {"start": "01:34:25", "end": "01:34:27", "text": ">> That's right. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:34:26", "end": "01:34:30", "text": ">> Yeah. And this was much later in his"}, {"start": "01:34:27", "end": "01:34:31", "text": "career. He also"}, {"start": "01:34:30", "end": "01:34:33", "text": "wrote the paper. There's an interesting"}, {"start": "01:34:31", "end": "01:34:35", "text": "story here about uh"}, {"start": "01:34:33", "end": "01:34:36", "text": ">> how quantum computers came about, but"}, {"start": "01:34:35", "end": "01:34:36", "text": "we'll come to that later if we have"}, {"start": "01:34:36", "end": "01:34:39", "text": "time."}, {"start": "01:34:36", "end": "01:34:41", "text": ">> Um and so Wheeler was a supervisor for"}, {"start": "01:34:39", "end": "01:34:41", "text": "him, but also he was a supervisor for a"}, {"start": "01:34:41", "end": "01:34:42", "text": "guy named Hugh"}, {"start": "01:34:41", "end": "01:34:45", "text": ">> Everett"}, {"start": "01:34:42", "end": "01:34:46", "text": ">> uh who was looking for an alternative."}, {"start": "01:34:45", "end": "01:34:49", "text": "And he basically said that all these"}, {"start": "01:34:46", "end": "01:34:51", "text": "wave functions get separated and that"}, {"start": "01:34:49", "end": "01:34:53", "text": "would kind of mean that there's multiple"}, {"start": "01:34:51", "end": "01:34:54", "text": "worlds where each of these things"}, {"start": "01:34:53", "end": "01:34:56", "text": "happened. So that became known as the"}, {"start": "01:34:54", "end": "01:34:59", "text": "multiverse"}, {"start": "01:34:56", "end": "01:34:59", "text": "u or the many worlds interpretation"}, {"start": "01:34:59", "end": "01:35:01", "text": "right"}, {"start": "01:34:59", "end": "01:35:04", "text": ">> is the more formal representation of"}, {"start": "01:35:01", "end": "01:35:04", "text": "that. And Einstein didn't like it."}, {"start": "01:35:04", "end": "01:35:07", "text": ">> No no"}, {"start": "01:35:04", "end": "01:35:08", "text": ">> and bore Neils Boore who was you know"}, {"start": "01:35:07", "end": "01:35:11", "text": "the other kind of really big giant at"}, {"start": "01:35:08", "end": "01:35:13", "text": "the time um didn't like it either. And"}, {"start": "01:35:11", "end": "01:35:14", "text": "so Wheeler said, \"Take out the stuff"}, {"start": "01:35:13", "end": "01:35:16", "text": "about there being multiple physical"}, {"start": "01:35:14", "end": "01:35:18", "text": "worlds. Just stick to the math.\" And so"}, {"start": "01:35:16", "end": "01:35:19", "text": "Hugh Everett needed a job and he's like,"}, {"start": "01:35:18", "end": "01:35:21", "text": "\"Okay, fine. I'm just going to finish"}, {"start": "01:35:19", "end": "01:35:23", "text": "this dissertation and go off and get a"}, {"start": "01:35:21", "end": "01:35:25", "text": "job in industry.\" Uh, but that became"}, {"start": "01:35:23", "end": "01:35:26", "text": "the basis for, you know, a lot of great"}, {"start": "01:35:25", "end": "01:35:27", "text": "science fiction today."}, {"start": "01:35:26", "end": "01:35:29", "text": ">> Why do you think Neils Moore and"}, {"start": "01:35:27", "end": "01:35:32", "text": "Einstein didn't like I know that they"}, {"start": "01:35:29", "end": "01:35:33", "text": "didn't really like quantum mechanics,"}, {"start": "01:35:32", "end": "01:35:36", "text": "but they accepted it. Why didn't they"}, {"start": "01:35:33", "end": "01:35:38", "text": "like many worlds interpretation? Because"}, {"start": "01:35:36", "end": "01:35:40", "text": "you can still have your block universe"}, {"start": "01:35:38", "end": "01:35:42", "text": "theory just in a different universe. I"}, {"start": "01:35:40", "end": "01:35:44", "text": "think Einstein just didn't want to go"}, {"start": "01:35:42", "end": "01:35:46", "text": "there for the implications because, you"}, {"start": "01:35:44", "end": "01:35:47", "text": "know, he had his the univer God does not"}, {"start": "01:35:46", "end": "01:35:48", "text": "play dice."}, {"start": "01:35:47", "end": "01:35:51", "text": ">> That's right. That's true."}, {"start": "01:35:48", "end": "01:35:52", "text": ">> With the universe and that became, you"}, {"start": "01:35:51", "end": "01:35:54", "text": "know, it wasn't so much that he didn't"}, {"start": "01:35:52", "end": "01:35:56", "text": "like he didn't it wasn't that he"}, {"start": "01:35:54", "end": "01:35:57", "text": "disagreed with the math that was in the"}, {"start": "01:35:56", "end": "01:35:58", "text": "dissertation."}, {"start": "01:35:57", "end": "01:36:00", "text": ">> He tried to disprove it. He couldn't."}, {"start": "01:35:58", "end": "01:36:02", "text": ">> Yeah. He couldn't. And then he didn't"}, {"start": "01:36:00", "end": "01:36:05", "text": "want to get into this the interpretation"}, {"start": "01:36:02", "end": "01:36:06", "text": "element of it. Uh and then Boore didn't"}, {"start": "01:36:05", "end": "01:36:08", "text": "like it because it was different than"}, {"start": "01:36:06", "end": "01:36:10", "text": "his Copenhagen. In fact, it's called the"}, {"start": "01:36:08", "end": "01:36:12", "text": "Copenhagen interpretation because Boore"}, {"start": "01:36:10", "end": "01:36:14", "text": "near Boore was in Copenhagen and he had"}, {"start": "01:36:12", "end": "01:36:15", "text": "his group of people around him"}, {"start": "01:36:14", "end": "01:36:17", "text": ">> and a bit of ego."}, {"start": "01:36:15", "end": "01:36:19", "text": ">> And a bit of an ego, of course. Yeah,"}, {"start": "01:36:17", "end": "01:36:21", "text": "that happens a lot in science."}, {"start": "01:36:19", "end": "01:36:23", "text": ">> Uh, and so that's the other big"}, {"start": "01:36:21", "end": "01:36:25", "text": "interpretation of quantum mechanics."}, {"start": "01:36:23", "end": "01:36:27", "text": ">> Where do you land?"}, {"start": "01:36:25", "end": "01:36:29", "text": ">> So, this is what's interesting is when I"}, {"start": "01:36:27", "end": "01:36:31", "text": "looked at both of those and I said,"}, {"start": "01:36:29", "end": "01:36:33", "text": "okay, what are the problems? The first"}, {"start": "01:36:31", "end": "01:36:36", "text": "one, you know, they don't like that they"}, {"start": "01:36:33", "end": "01:36:39", "text": "need a conscious observer. Uh there's no"}, {"start": "01:36:36", "end": "01:36:41", "text": "way to define what this collapse is."}, {"start": "01:36:39", "end": "01:36:43", "text": "That's the real mathematical problem is"}, {"start": "01:36:41", "end": "01:36:44", "text": "it's like it goes from all these"}, {"start": "01:36:43", "end": "01:36:47", "text": "possibilities to this one and nobody"}, {"start": "01:36:44", "end": "01:36:47", "text": "really knows how it works. It's like"}, {"start": "01:36:47", "end": "01:36:48", "text": "magic."}, {"start": "01:36:47", "end": "01:36:51", "text": ">> It's like magic."}, {"start": "01:36:48", "end": "01:36:52", "text": ">> There's this old cartoon comic where"}, {"start": "01:36:51", "end": "01:36:54", "text": "it's got a professor on the board"}, {"start": "01:36:52", "end": "01:36:56", "text": "writing a whole bunch of equations step"}, {"start": "01:36:54", "end": "01:36:58", "text": "one and then over here step two and then"}, {"start": "01:36:56", "end": "01:37:00", "text": "step three's got the answer and his"}, {"start": "01:36:58", "end": "01:37:01", "text": "professor or the other professor is"}, {"start": "01:37:00", "end": "01:37:03", "text": "sitting there saying, \"Can you tell me"}, {"start": "01:37:01", "end": "01:37:06", "text": "more about step two?\" And step two says,"}, {"start": "01:37:03", "end": "01:37:07", "text": "\"Then a miracle occurs."}, {"start": "01:37:06", "end": "01:37:09", "text": "That's what happens."}, {"start": "01:37:07", "end": "01:37:11", "text": ">> That's what happens, right? Uh but if"}, {"start": "01:37:09", "end": "01:37:12", "text": "it's a video game, well then there we"}, {"start": "01:37:11", "end": "01:37:14", "text": "have a mechanism for that observation."}, {"start": "01:37:12", "end": "01:37:17", "text": "We have a player. We have an actual"}, {"start": "01:37:14", "end": "01:37:20", "text": "conscious entity that exists that is"}, {"start": "01:37:17", "end": "01:37:22", "text": "that causes the collapse to happen based"}, {"start": "01:37:20", "end": "01:37:24", "text": "upon the choices and what they're"}, {"start": "01:37:22", "end": "01:37:26", "text": "seeing. And so that's where it ties to"}, {"start": "01:37:24", "end": "01:37:28", "text": "the video game. Now the big inter the"}, {"start": "01:37:26", "end": "01:37:30", "text": "the big problem I mean there's great,"}, {"start": "01:37:28", "end": "01:37:32", "text": "you know, superhero movies. You probably"}, {"start": "01:37:30", "end": "01:37:33", "text": "seen the the Spider-Man meme where"}, {"start": "01:37:32", "end": "01:37:35", "text": "you've got like the Sure. Sure. the"}, {"start": "01:37:33", "end": "01:37:37", "text": "three Spider-Mans, Andrew Garfield, Tom"}, {"start": "01:37:35", "end": "01:37:39", "text": "Holland, and who's the third one? Toby."}, {"start": "01:37:37", "end": "01:37:40", "text": "Toby McGuire. Yeah. They're all pointing"}, {"start": "01:37:39", "end": "01:37:42", "text": "at each other. Well, you know, they're"}, {"start": "01:37:40", "end": "01:37:43", "text": "coming from a different branch of the"}, {"start": "01:37:42", "end": "01:37:44", "text": "multiverse, right?"}, {"start": "01:37:43", "end": "01:37:45", "text": ">> That's that that's what we're told."}, {"start": "01:37:44", "end": "01:37:46", "text": "That's how you can have all these"}, {"start": "01:37:45", "end": "01:37:49", "text": "different stories."}, {"start": "01:37:46", "end": "01:37:51", "text": ">> Um, but the problem from a a science"}, {"start": "01:37:49", "end": "01:37:52", "text": "point of view is they say it's not"}, {"start": "01:37:51", "end": "01:37:55", "text": "parsimmonious."}, {"start": "01:37:52", "end": "01:37:57", "text": ">> And what that means is it requires too"}, {"start": "01:37:55", "end": "01:37:59", "text": "much faith. You're you're you're"}, {"start": "01:37:57", "end": "01:38:02", "text": "creating a new world. Okay? Not just"}, {"start": "01:37:59", "end": "01:38:05", "text": "every day, not just every hour, not just"}, {"start": "01:38:02", "end": "01:38:08", "text": "every second, but at each quantum"}, {"start": "01:38:05", "end": "01:38:10", "text": "determiny point at each choice,"}, {"start": "01:38:08", "end": "01:38:12", "text": ">> which would be at the plank scale."}, {"start": "01:38:10", "end": "01:38:13", "text": ">> At the plank scale and maybe even at the"}, {"start": "01:38:12", "end": "01:38:14", "text": "plank time"}, {"start": "01:38:13", "end": "01:38:16", "text": ">> at the plank time,"}, {"start": "01:38:14", "end": "01:38:17", "text": ">> which uh you know, by the way, the plank"}, {"start": "01:38:16", "end": "01:38:18", "text": "scale is another reason why I think, you"}, {"start": "01:38:17", "end": "01:38:18", "text": "know,"}, {"start": "01:38:18", "end": "01:38:20", "text": ">> same"}, {"start": "01:38:18", "end": "01:38:21", "text": ">> physics is showing us that we're we have"}, {"start": "01:38:20", "end": "01:38:22", "text": "pixels in the"}, {"start": "01:38:21", "end": "01:38:24", "text": ">> sounds like pixels."}, {"start": "01:38:22", "end": "01:38:26", "text": ">> It's the smallest measurable distance"}, {"start": "01:38:24", "end": "01:38:28", "text": ">> and plank time sounds like frame rate."}, {"start": "01:38:26", "end": "01:38:30", "text": ">> Exactly. a clock speed or frame rate."}, {"start": "01:38:28", "end": "01:38:31", "text": "Yeah. Which is And now we"}, {"start": "01:38:30", "end": "01:38:33", "text": ">> we we do know that the universe is"}, {"start": "01:38:31", "end": "01:38:35", "text": "probably quantized. Scientists don't"}, {"start": "01:38:33", "end": "01:38:38", "text": "agree on whether time is quantized, but"}, {"start": "01:38:35", "end": "01:38:39", "text": "it might be. And that would make sense"}, {"start": "01:38:38", "end": "01:38:41", "text": "if it was inside a simulation. Most"}, {"start": "01:38:39", "end": "01:38:44", "text": "people have bought like, you know, a"}, {"start": "01:38:41", "end": "01:38:46", "text": "MacBook or that's like x megahertz or"}, {"start": "01:38:44", "end": "01:38:48", "text": "gigahertz pro. They don't know what that"}, {"start": "01:38:46", "end": "01:38:50", "text": "means. What it means is hertz is in is"}, {"start": "01:38:48", "end": "01:38:51", "text": "instructions per second or cycles,"}, {"start": "01:38:50", "end": "01:38:53", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "01:38:51", "end": "01:38:56", "text": ">> Per second. And so you can only do so"}, {"start": "01:38:53", "end": "01:38:57", "text": "many and you can't really do anything in"}, {"start": "01:38:56", "end": "01:38:58", "text": "between that minimum time,"}, {"start": "01:38:57", "end": "01:38:59", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "01:38:58", "end": "01:39:01", "text": ">> And that's what the plank time is is"}, {"start": "01:38:59", "end": "01:39:03", "text": "like the the amount of time it takes"}, {"start": "01:39:01", "end": "01:39:06", "text": "speed of light to get through the plank"}, {"start": "01:39:03", "end": "01:39:09", "text": "length basically. And so if we have a"}, {"start": "01:39:06", "end": "01:39:11", "text": "minimum uh pixel and we have a minimum"}, {"start": "01:39:09", "end": "01:39:13", "text": "frame rate or a minimum clock speed of"}, {"start": "01:39:11", "end": "01:39:15", "text": "the processor of the universe then"}, {"start": "01:39:13", "end": "01:39:18", "text": "everything is a multiple of those and"}, {"start": "01:39:15", "end": "01:39:21", "text": "it's more likely we live in a um in a"}, {"start": "01:39:18", "end": "01:39:22", "text": "pixelated type of reality which is like"}, {"start": "01:39:21", "end": "01:39:23", "text": "a computer program."}, {"start": "01:39:22", "end": "01:39:25", "text": ">> That's a lot of universes."}, {"start": "01:39:23", "end": "01:39:27", "text": ">> That's a lot of universes. So so it's"}, {"start": "01:39:25", "end": "01:39:28", "text": "not parsimmonious and you have to create"}, {"start": "01:39:27", "end": "01:39:31", "text": "all these universes, right?"}, {"start": "01:39:28", "end": "01:39:34", "text": ">> But there was a physicist named Amit"}, {"start": "01:39:31", "end": "01:39:36", "text": "Gowami. Um he wrote uh what did he"}, {"start": "01:39:34", "end": "01:39:37", "text": "write? It was the conscious universe. I"}, {"start": "01:39:36", "end": "01:39:39", "text": "forget his book, but he wrote he wrote a"}, {"start": "01:39:37", "end": "01:39:41", "text": "few really he's a physicist uh who"}, {"start": "01:39:39", "end": "01:39:44", "text": "writes about consciousness as well. And"}, {"start": "01:39:41", "end": "01:39:45", "text": "I was listening to one of his talks and"}, {"start": "01:39:44", "end": "01:39:46", "text": "you know somebody says something that"}, {"start": "01:39:45", "end": "01:39:49", "text": "you kind of store away and you don't"}, {"start": "01:39:46", "end": "01:39:52", "text": "think about till later and he said look"}, {"start": "01:39:49", "end": "01:39:55", "text": "those probabilities"}, {"start": "01:39:52", "end": "01:39:58", "text": "aren't really probabilities in the sense"}, {"start": "01:39:55", "end": "01:40:01", "text": "that we think of them. He goes it it's"}, {"start": "01:39:58", "end": "01:40:02", "text": "what would happen if you did it again if"}, {"start": "01:40:01", "end": "01:40:03", "text": "you kept doing it a bunch of times."}, {"start": "01:40:02", "end": "01:40:05", "text": "Right. Oh,"}, {"start": "01:40:03", "end": "01:40:05", "text": ">> then that's the then it's a probability."}, {"start": "01:40:05", "end": "01:40:07", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "01:40:05", "end": "01:40:09", "text": ">> Right. So, where does probability come"}, {"start": "01:40:07", "end": "01:40:10", "text": "from? By the way, there was a a"}, {"start": "01:40:09", "end": "01:40:11", "text": "mathematician, I don't know if it was"}, {"start": "01:40:10", "end": "01:40:13", "text": "Pascal, it was one of these French"}, {"start": "01:40:11", "end": "01:40:15", "text": "mathematicians who began with a P and"}, {"start": "01:40:13", "end": "01:40:16", "text": "some guy was rolling dice. He was"}, {"start": "01:40:15", "end": "01:40:19", "text": "playing dice. And he asked him, hey, can"}, {"start": "01:40:16", "end": "01:40:22", "text": "you quantify, you know, how I can win at"}, {"start": "01:40:19", "end": "01:40:23", "text": "dice. So, he came up with this idea. He"}, {"start": "01:40:22", "end": "01:40:25", "text": "said, if you have one die, a single d"}, {"start": "01:40:23", "end": "01:40:27", "text": "single dice, a die has six"}, {"start": "01:40:25", "end": "01:40:29", "text": "possibilities. He called them six"}, {"start": "01:40:27", "end": "01:40:31", "text": "possible futures. I mean, he literally"}, {"start": "01:40:29", "end": "01:40:34", "text": "used that term. And he said, \"So your"}, {"start": "01:40:31", "end": "01:40:36", "text": "chances of getting one of those futures,"}, {"start": "01:40:34", "end": "01:40:38", "text": "if it if it's evenly weighted, you know,"}, {"start": "01:40:36", "end": "01:40:41", "text": "we're in Vegas, so use a gambling"}, {"start": "01:40:38", "end": "01:40:44", "text": "analogy. If it's properly weighted is"}, {"start": "01:40:41", "end": "01:40:45", "text": "one out of six, but you can't really"}, {"start": "01:40:44", "end": "01:40:48", "text": "have a probability until you've tried"}, {"start": "01:40:45", "end": "01:40:50", "text": "something multiple times."}, {"start": "01:40:48", "end": "01:40:52", "text": "Like, you know, you could try the coin"}, {"start": "01:40:50", "end": "01:40:54", "text": "flip once, but you're not going to get"}, {"start": "01:40:52", "end": "01:40:54", "text": "real probability unless you flip it a"}, {"start": "01:40:54", "end": "01:40:56", "text": "bunch of times,"}, {"start": "01:40:54", "end": "01:40:57", "text": ">> right?\" And so,"}, {"start": "01:40:56", "end": "01:40:58", "text": ">> but yeah, a lot of times,"}, {"start": "01:40:57", "end": "01:41:01", "text": ">> a lot of times you need to get up to a"}, {"start": "01:40:58", "end": "01:41:04", "text": "certain number. And then it got me"}, {"start": "01:41:01", "end": "01:41:05", "text": "thinking, well, if it was a simulated"}, {"start": "01:41:04", "end": "01:41:08", "text": "universe,"}, {"start": "01:41:05", "end": "01:41:10", "text": ">> you could actually run as many times as"}, {"start": "01:41:08", "end": "01:41:13", "text": "you wanted. You also didn't have to"}, {"start": "01:41:10", "end": "01:41:15", "text": "infinitely run every single possibility."}, {"start": "01:41:13", "end": "01:41:17", "text": "Okay? Why? Because you would basic, if"}, {"start": "01:41:15", "end": "01:41:19", "text": "you think of it as a big tree that just"}, {"start": "01:41:17", "end": "01:41:22", "text": "keeps expanding. This is the the problem"}, {"start": "01:41:19", "end": "01:41:24", "text": "with it being infinite. You could prune"}, {"start": "01:41:22", "end": "01:41:25", "text": ">> large parts of the tree. Like the"}, {"start": "01:41:24", "end": "01:41:25", "text": "universe has something called"}, {"start": "01:41:25", "end": "01:41:26", "text": "fine-tuning."}, {"start": "01:41:25", "end": "01:41:29", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "01:41:26", "end": "01:41:30", "text": ">> Which is if a certain number of"}, {"start": "01:41:29", "end": "01:41:32", "text": "constants like the gravitational"}, {"start": "01:41:30", "end": "01:41:35", "text": "constant or these other constants were"}, {"start": "01:41:32", "end": "01:41:37", "text": "like slightly off by like 1%. The"}, {"start": "01:41:35", "end": "01:41:39", "text": "planets would fly apart, the galaxies"}, {"start": "01:41:37", "end": "01:41:41", "text": "wouldn't stay together and there's like"}, {"start": "01:41:39", "end": "01:41:43", "text": "so many of these people can look them"}, {"start": "01:41:41", "end": "01:41:45", "text": "up. There's at least 12 and there's"}, {"start": "01:41:43", "end": "01:41:48", "text": "probably more than that now. Uh, but it"}, {"start": "01:41:45", "end": "01:41:49", "text": "looks like the universe is fine-tuned"}, {"start": "01:41:48", "end": "01:41:51", "text": "and well, if you were running a"}, {"start": "01:41:49", "end": "01:41:54", "text": "simulation, you would run it multiple"}, {"start": "01:41:51", "end": "01:41:56", "text": "times and then you would basically prune"}, {"start": "01:41:54", "end": "01:41:58", "text": "the tree for all the versions which"}, {"start": "01:41:56", "end": "01:41:59", "text": "don't have life. So, there's no need to"}, {"start": "01:41:58", "end": "01:41:59", "text": "go down that tree."}, {"start": "01:41:59", "end": "01:42:01", "text": ">> That's right."}, {"start": "01:41:59", "end": "01:42:02", "text": ">> Again, thinking like a computer"}, {"start": "01:42:01", "end": "01:42:04", "text": "scientist, you're not going to want to"}, {"start": "01:42:02", "end": "01:42:07", "text": "run all your processors on everything."}, {"start": "01:42:04", "end": "01:42:09", "text": "You're like, that's not interesting to"}, {"start": "01:42:07", "end": "01:42:11", "text": "the simulation. So, let's just focus on"}, {"start": "01:42:09", "end": "01:42:12", "text": "this subset of possibilities."}, {"start": "01:42:11", "end": "01:42:14", "text": ">> Right? So you tune Avagadro's number"}, {"start": "01:42:12", "end": "01:42:16", "text": "until it's just about right. Yeah. Or"}, {"start": "01:42:14", "end": "01:42:16", "text": "Moles's constant or speed of light."}, {"start": "01:42:16", "end": "01:42:18", "text": "Yeah. It's"}, {"start": "01:42:16", "end": "01:42:19", "text": ">> like this is what works. Throw that"}, {"start": "01:42:18", "end": "01:42:22", "text": "stuff out."}, {"start": "01:42:19", "end": "01:42:24", "text": ">> Right. Exactly. And you tune that stuff"}, {"start": "01:42:22", "end": "01:42:26", "text": "and that leads to what I like to call a"}, {"start": "01:42:24", "end": "01:42:27", "text": "simulated multiverse. So this is why I"}, {"start": "01:42:26", "end": "01:42:29", "text": "ended up writing the second book on"}, {"start": "01:42:27", "end": "01:42:31", "text": "simulation which is now the older book"}, {"start": "01:42:29", "end": "01:42:33", "text": "because I have the second edition. And"}, {"start": "01:42:31", "end": "01:42:35", "text": "also I I interviewed Philip K. Dick's"}, {"start": "01:42:33", "end": "01:42:35", "text": "wife,"}, {"start": "01:42:35", "end": "01:42:36", "text": ">> Tessa Dick."}, {"start": "01:42:35", "end": "01:42:37", "text": ">> Tessa Dick. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:42:36", "end": "01:42:38", "text": ">> Wow. What was that like?"}, {"start": "01:42:37", "end": "01:42:41", "text": ">> It was really interesting. I mean it was"}, {"start": "01:42:38", "end": "01:42:42", "text": "over the phone. Um, and but she had so"}, {"start": "01:42:41", "end": "01:42:43", "text": "many stories, you know, of"}, {"start": "01:42:42", "end": "01:42:46", "text": ">> Oh, wow."}, {"start": "01:42:43", "end": "01:42:47", "text": ">> and she's still around. Um, and you"}, {"start": "01:42:46", "end": "01:42:50", "text": "know, she would tell me these stories"}, {"start": "01:42:47", "end": "01:42:53", "text": "and and I interviewed her because the"}, {"start": "01:42:50", "end": "01:42:55", "text": "Wowskis who made the Matrix were"}, {"start": "01:42:53", "end": "01:42:57", "text": "inspired by Philip K. Deck."}, {"start": "01:42:55", "end": "01:42:59", "text": ">> Of course. In fact, she told me I I I"}, {"start": "01:42:57", "end": "01:43:00", "text": "asked her what would uh, you know, what"}, {"start": "01:42:59", "end": "01:43:02", "text": "would Philip think of the Matrix? And"}, {"start": "01:43:00", "end": "01:43:03", "text": "she said, well, first he would like it."}, {"start": "01:43:02", "end": "01:43:06", "text": "That's the first reaction would be this"}, {"start": "01:43:03", "end": "01:43:08", "text": "is awesome because it's very similar to"}, {"start": "01:43:06", "end": "01:43:09", "text": "his ideas. And his second reaction was"}, {"start": "01:43:08", "end": "01:43:11", "text": "he'd call his agent to see if he can sue"}, {"start": "01:43:09", "end": "01:43:12", "text": "these guys and get some of the money"}, {"start": "01:43:11", "end": "01:43:13", "text": ">> probably good"}, {"start": "01:43:12", "end": "01:43:15", "text": ">> for using his ideas."}, {"start": "01:43:13", "end": "01:43:17", "text": ">> I think their deja vu explanation came"}, {"start": "01:43:15", "end": "01:43:20", "text": "from his talk at Mets in 77."}, {"start": "01:43:17", "end": "01:43:22", "text": ">> Yeah. And so she encouraged me to go"}, {"start": "01:43:20", "end": "01:43:22", "text": "watch that whole talk and there's a"}, {"start": "01:43:22", "end": "01:43:23", "text": "written version."}, {"start": "01:43:22", "end": "01:43:25", "text": ">> Everyone should. It's amazing"}, {"start": "01:43:23", "end": "01:43:28", "text": ">> and there's a famous line from it where"}, {"start": "01:43:25", "end": "01:43:30", "text": "he says we are living in a computer"}, {"start": "01:43:28", "end": "01:43:32", "text": "programmed reality and the only clue we"}, {"start": "01:43:30", "end": "01:43:34", "text": "have to it is when some variable is"}, {"start": "01:43:32", "end": "01:43:37", "text": "changed some alteration occurs in our"}, {"start": "01:43:34", "end": "01:43:38", "text": "reality. And so when I originally I was"}, {"start": "01:43:37", "end": "01:43:40", "text": "just interested in the first part of"}, {"start": "01:43:38", "end": "01:43:42", "text": "that which is we are living in a"}, {"start": "01:43:40", "end": "01:43:44", "text": "computer programmed reality. And if you"}, {"start": "01:43:42", "end": "01:43:46", "text": "see that video the camera pans away from"}, {"start": "01:43:44", "end": "01:43:47", "text": "him and looks at the audience and"}, {"start": "01:43:46", "end": "01:43:48", "text": "everyone's like what?"}, {"start": "01:43:47", "end": "01:43:50", "text": ">> I love it. They think they're going to"}, {"start": "01:43:48", "end": "01:43:52", "text": "see a sci-fi author talk and they're"}, {"start": "01:43:50", "end": "01:43:53", "text": "getting this philosophical it's it's so"}, {"start": "01:43:52", "end": "01:43:55", "text": "important that talk."}, {"start": "01:43:53", "end": "01:43:58", "text": ">> It really is. Uh and in fact they show"}, {"start": "01:43:55", "end": "01:43:59", "text": "this woman who's like turns out her name"}, {"start": "01:43:58", "end": "01:44:01", "text": "is Joan Simpson. She was his friend. She"}, {"start": "01:43:59", "end": "01:44:03", "text": "went with him to the conference and even"}, {"start": "01:44:01", "end": "01:44:05", "text": "she had no idea. And if you look at the"}, {"start": "01:44:03", "end": "01:44:07", "text": "written version of that speech, the rest"}, {"start": "01:44:05", "end": "01:44:08", "text": "of the speech is there, but that line is"}, {"start": "01:44:07", "end": "01:44:11", "text": "not in the written essay. So he must"}, {"start": "01:44:08", "end": "01:44:13", "text": "have added it in in his notes while he"}, {"start": "01:44:11", "end": "01:44:15", "text": "was flying over there. And but if you"}, {"start": "01:44:13", "end": "01:44:18", "text": "read the rest of the speech, what he"}, {"start": "01:44:15", "end": "01:44:23", "text": "what the next line is u we would have a"}, {"start": "01:44:18", "end": "01:44:26", "text": "sense of reliving the same moments uh of"}, {"start": "01:44:23", "end": "01:44:29", "text": "deja vu that such an impression is a"}, {"start": "01:44:26", "end": "01:44:32", "text": "clue that at some point in the past a"}, {"start": "01:44:29", "end": "01:44:36", "text": "variable was changed and reality was"}, {"start": "01:44:32", "end": "01:44:39", "text": "rerun. And so he claimed to remember a"}, {"start": "01:44:36", "end": "01:44:41", "text": "different alternate past."}, {"start": "01:44:39", "end": "01:44:42", "text": "And uh his most famous book while he was"}, {"start": "01:44:41", "end": "01:44:43", "text": "alive was actually The Man in the High"}, {"start": "01:44:42", "end": "01:44:45", "text": "Castle."}, {"start": "01:44:43", "end": "01:44:47", "text": ">> It won like all these awards back in"}, {"start": "01:44:45", "end": "01:44:49", "text": "1960. And for those who who don't know,"}, {"start": "01:44:47", "end": "01:44:51", "text": "they may have seen some of you may have"}, {"start": "01:44:49", "end": "01:44:53", "text": "seen the u the Amazon series, which is a"}, {"start": "01:44:51", "end": "01:44:54", "text": "really good series by the way. Uh I"}, {"start": "01:44:53", "end": "01:44:57", "text": "talked to his wife, she said he would"}, {"start": "01:44:54", "end": "01:44:59", "text": "have loved it that adaptation. But in"}, {"start": "01:44:57", "end": "01:45:01", "text": "that uh Germany and Japan have won World"}, {"start": "01:44:59", "end": "01:45:03", "text": "War II and they end up, you know,"}, {"start": "01:45:01", "end": "01:45:05", "text": "splitting America between them and you"}, {"start": "01:45:03", "end": "01:45:09", "text": "have kind of a police state on both"}, {"start": "01:45:05", "end": "01:45:11", "text": "sides. and he came to believe that that"}, {"start": "01:45:09", "end": "01:45:14", "text": "was a real timeline"}, {"start": "01:45:11", "end": "01:45:17", "text": "that actually happened uh where the axis"}, {"start": "01:45:14", "end": "01:45:19", "text": "powers won the war and now we're on a"}, {"start": "01:45:17", "end": "01:45:22", "text": "different timeline and he said at some"}, {"start": "01:45:19", "end": "01:45:23", "text": "point all the memories came flooding"}, {"start": "01:45:22", "end": "01:45:24", "text": "back to him he was writing a sequel to"}, {"start": "01:45:23", "end": "01:45:26", "text": "the book too by the way was he"}, {"start": "01:45:24", "end": "01:45:28", "text": ">> that's what Tessa told me and she said"}, {"start": "01:45:26", "end": "01:45:29", "text": "but once he got all the memories he"}, {"start": "01:45:28", "end": "01:45:30", "text": "didn't want to go there because he there"}, {"start": "01:45:29", "end": "01:45:31", "text": "were such bleak memories in that"}, {"start": "01:45:30", "end": "01:45:33", "text": "timeline"}, {"start": "01:45:31", "end": "01:45:35", "text": ">> yeah he said he saw it he said this"}, {"start": "01:45:33", "end": "01:45:37", "text": "happened but but somewhere the variable"}, {"start": "01:45:35", "end": "01:45:38", "text": "was changed"}, {"start": "01:45:37", "end": "01:45:39", "text": "Exactly. Who changed it?"}, {"start": "01:45:38", "end": "01:45:42", "text": ">> He called it the programmer and"}, {"start": "01:45:39", "end": "01:45:44", "text": "counterprogrammer. And so, you know, he"}, {"start": "01:45:42", "end": "01:45:46", "text": "used this idea of orthogonal time"}, {"start": "01:45:44", "end": "01:45:48", "text": ">> which he compared it to a bunch of suits"}, {"start": "01:45:46", "end": "01:45:50", "text": "in the closet. You can try on one suit,"}, {"start": "01:45:48", "end": "01:45:53", "text": "you can try on the other suit. But what"}, {"start": "01:45:50", "end": "01:45:56", "text": "he also said uh so so Tessa encouraged"}, {"start": "01:45:53", "end": "01:45:58", "text": "me to read his um uh his speech and I"}, {"start": "01:45:56", "end": "01:46:00", "text": "looked at that speech and I said this is"}, {"start": "01:45:58", "end": "01:46:03", "text": "really about rerunning the simulation"}, {"start": "01:46:00", "end": "01:46:05", "text": "and changing variables each time. He"}, {"start": "01:46:03", "end": "01:46:07", "text": "also said we would need to find a group"}, {"start": "01:46:05", "end": "01:46:08", "text": "of people like him who remember an"}, {"start": "01:46:07", "end": "01:46:10", "text": "alternate timeline."}, {"start": "01:46:08", "end": "01:46:12", "text": ">> Uh and of course back then it was hard"}, {"start": "01:46:10", "end": "01:46:14", "text": "to do that. But now we have this thing"}, {"start": "01:46:12", "end": "01:46:15", "text": "called the Mandela effect. Uh and"}, {"start": "01:46:14", "end": "01:46:17", "text": "whether you believe in the Mandela"}, {"start": "01:46:15", "end": "01:46:21", "text": "effect or not, it's a great way to talk"}, {"start": "01:46:17", "end": "01:46:23", "text": "about this idea that maybe we are having"}, {"start": "01:46:21", "end": "01:46:24", "text": "multiple possible histories."}, {"start": "01:46:23", "end": "01:46:26", "text": ">> Well, let's talk about that because"}, {"start": "01:46:24", "end": "01:46:28", "text": "people love it. Mandela effect never"}, {"start": "01:46:26", "end": "01:46:31", "text": "worked on me until there is one that got"}, {"start": "01:46:28", "end": "01:46:35", "text": "me. Uh otherwise the Baronstein bears"}, {"start": "01:46:31", "end": "01:46:36", "text": "all that never fruitless the uh well you"}, {"start": "01:46:35", "end": "01:46:36", "text": "tell the story."}, {"start": "01:46:36", "end": "01:46:37", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:46:36", "end": "01:46:39", "text": ">> What's the Mandela effect? So the"}, {"start": "01:46:37", "end": "01:46:42", "text": "Mandela effect is when some subset of"}, {"start": "01:46:39", "end": "01:46:45", "text": "the population remembers a different"}, {"start": "01:46:42", "end": "01:46:48", "text": "version of some past event or some"}, {"start": "01:46:45", "end": "01:46:50", "text": "object in the past. And the it's named"}, {"start": "01:46:48", "end": "01:46:53", "text": "after Nelson Mandela because some people"}, {"start": "01:46:50", "end": "01:46:55", "text": "remember him dying in prison back in the"}, {"start": "01:46:53", "end": "01:46:57", "text": "80s. And of course he didn't in our"}, {"start": "01:46:55", "end": "01:46:59", "text": "timeline, right? He actually, you know,"}, {"start": "01:46:57", "end": "01:47:01", "text": "was released from prison. He became"}, {"start": "01:46:59", "end": "01:47:02", "text": "president of South Africa, won the Nobel"}, {"start": "01:47:01", "end": "01:47:04", "text": "Peace Prize and died I think at like"}, {"start": "01:47:02", "end": "01:47:05", "text": "2013 or something."}, {"start": "01:47:04", "end": "01:47:08", "text": ">> They remember his funeral on TV."}, {"start": "01:47:05", "end": "01:47:10", "text": ">> Yeah. They remember details. Winnie, his"}, {"start": "01:47:08", "end": "01:47:12", "text": "wife, taking over the AMC."}, {"start": "01:47:10", "end": "01:47:14", "text": ">> Uh, they remember all of these. And then"}, {"start": "01:47:12", "end": "01:47:16", "text": "Fiona Broom was the blogger who coined"}, {"start": "01:47:14", "end": "01:47:18", "text": "this term. She was actually at a Star"}, {"start": "01:47:16", "end": "01:47:19", "text": "Trek at a a Comic-Con convention in"}, {"start": "01:47:18", "end": "01:47:21", "text": "Atlanta."}, {"start": "01:47:19", "end": "01:47:24", "text": ">> Let's call it Dragon Con. And it was a"}, {"start": "01:47:21", "end": "01:47:26", "text": "Star Trek uh uh panel. And the panelists"}, {"start": "01:47:24", "end": "01:47:28", "text": "were like actors from the original Star"}, {"start": "01:47:26", "end": "01:47:30", "text": "Trek series. And if you know your"}, {"start": "01:47:28", "end": "01:47:30", "text": "Trekies, you know, they know their uh"}, {"start": "01:47:30", "end": "01:47:31", "text": "you know,"}, {"start": "01:47:30", "end": "01:47:32", "text": ">> they know their stuff."}, {"start": "01:47:31", "end": "01:47:34", "text": ">> They know their stuff. They know their"}, {"start": "01:47:32", "end": "01:47:34", "text": "episodes. and and and people in the"}, {"start": "01:47:34", "end": "01:47:37", "text": "audience were like, \"Don't you remember"}, {"start": "01:47:34", "end": "01:47:39", "text": "the episode where Captain Kirk did this,"}, {"start": "01:47:37", "end": "01:47:41", "text": ">> Mr. Spock did that and maybe Mr. Saloo"}, {"start": "01:47:39", "end": "01:47:43", "text": "did that.\" They're like, \"No, we never"}, {"start": "01:47:41", "end": "01:47:45", "text": "saw shot such an episode.\" And multiple"}, {"start": "01:47:43", "end": "01:47:47", "text": "people in the audience remembered this."}, {"start": "01:47:45", "end": "01:47:48", "text": "And so she started to think, is it"}, {"start": "01:47:47", "end": "01:47:50", "text": "possible that there are other ones? So"}, {"start": "01:47:48", "end": "01:47:51", "text": "she set up a website and started to"}, {"start": "01:47:50", "end": "01:47:54", "text": "explore and she used to find all these"}, {"start": "01:47:51", "end": "01:47:55", "text": "different Mandela effects. Now, someone"}, {"start": "01:47:54", "end": "01:47:57", "text": "came to me and I always thought it was"}, {"start": "01:47:55", "end": "01:47:59", "text": "just faulty memory, by the way."}, {"start": "01:47:57", "end": "01:48:01", "text": ">> Same. Uh, if you ask me what it was, I"}, {"start": "01:47:59", "end": "01:48:03", "text": "mean, fine, a letter changed here, a"}, {"start": "01:48:01", "end": "01:48:06", "text": "word changed there. Uh, but a friend of"}, {"start": "01:48:03", "end": "01:48:07", "text": "mine from MIT who typically, you know, a"}, {"start": "01:48:06", "end": "01:48:09", "text": "lot of my MIT friends don't get into"}, {"start": "01:48:07", "end": "01:48:11", "text": "this stuff. They're very kind of"}, {"start": "01:48:09", "end": "01:48:13", "text": "leftrained about these things. He said,"}, {"start": "01:48:11", "end": "01:48:15", "text": "you know, if you go down that rabbit"}, {"start": "01:48:13", "end": "01:48:18", "text": "hole, see, your simulation theory ideas"}, {"start": "01:48:15", "end": "01:48:20", "text": "are a pretty good way in which this"}, {"start": "01:48:18", "end": "01:48:22", "text": "could actually happen."}, {"start": "01:48:20", "end": "01:48:23", "text": ">> And so these, you know, between Tessa"}, {"start": "01:48:22", "end": "01:48:25", "text": "talking about it, Philip K. Dick talking"}, {"start": "01:48:23", "end": "01:48:26", "text": "about it and him talking about it. I"}, {"start": "01:48:25", "end": "01:48:28", "text": "couldn't get this out of my mind that if"}, {"start": "01:48:26", "end": "01:48:31", "text": "you reran the simulation, you would"}, {"start": "01:48:28", "end": "01:48:33", "text": "actually end up with slightly different"}, {"start": "01:48:31", "end": "01:48:35", "text": "versions. You could have small changes"}, {"start": "01:48:33", "end": "01:48:36", "text": "like little things changing or you could"}, {"start": "01:48:35", "end": "01:48:40", "text": "have big versions. And then if you try"}, {"start": "01:48:36", "end": "01:48:41", "text": "to merge these multiple timelines, some"}, {"start": "01:48:40", "end": "01:48:44", "text": "people may have the memories from one of"}, {"start": "01:48:41", "end": "01:48:46", "text": "the other timelines. Uh and so I"}, {"start": "01:48:44", "end": "01:48:48", "text": "categorize these into different"}, {"start": "01:48:46", "end": "01:48:51", "text": "categories. You know, things like letter"}, {"start": "01:48:48", "end": "01:48:53", "text": "changes is one. Uh then there's things"}, {"start": "01:48:51", "end": "01:48:54", "text": "like movies is another category. The"}, {"start": "01:48:53", "end": "01:48:55", "text": "events"}, {"start": "01:48:54", "end": "01:48:56", "text": ">> the Moon Raker one is the one that got"}, {"start": "01:48:55", "end": "01:48:57", "text": "me the"}, {"start": "01:48:56", "end": "01:48:59", "text": ">> Oh yeah. So yeah, the Moon Raker one"}, {"start": "01:48:57", "end": "01:49:00", "text": ">> that she doesn't have braces, but I"}, {"start": "01:48:59", "end": "01:49:02", "text": "remember the braces."}, {"start": "01:49:00", "end": "01:49:03", "text": ">> Right. It was Jaws who had the steel"}, {"start": "01:49:02", "end": "01:49:04", "text": "teeth and then he meets Was her name"}, {"start": "01:49:03", "end": "01:49:05", "text": "Dolly?"}, {"start": "01:49:04", "end": "01:49:06", "text": ">> Dolly meets Dolly"}, {"start": "01:49:05", "end": "01:49:07", "text": ">> at the end. And I remember that too."}, {"start": "01:49:06", "end": "01:49:08", "text": ">> You remember the braces?"}, {"start": "01:49:07", "end": "01:49:10", "text": ">> I remember the braces, too. I mean, that"}, {"start": "01:49:08", "end": "01:49:12", "text": "was the whole point of what got me."}, {"start": "01:49:10", "end": "01:49:14", "text": ">> Yeah. And and so there's a few like that"}, {"start": "01:49:12", "end": "01:49:17", "text": "that really got me. I most people know"}, {"start": "01:49:14", "end": "01:49:20", "text": "the Bernstein Bears one. Uh, and what I"}, {"start": "01:49:17", "end": "01:49:22", "text": "like to say is if someone has proximity"}, {"start": "01:49:20", "end": "01:49:24", "text": "or significance to an event and they"}, {"start": "01:49:22", "end": "01:49:26", "text": "remember it differently, that's more"}, {"start": "01:49:24", "end": "01:49:28", "text": "interesting to me than just some random"}, {"start": "01:49:26", "end": "01:49:31", "text": "guy remembering different things. So,"}, {"start": "01:49:28", "end": "01:49:33", "text": "there was actually a blogger online, I'm"}, {"start": "01:49:31", "end": "01:49:36", "text": "forgetting her name now, but people can"}, {"start": "01:49:33", "end": "01:49:38", "text": "find it in the simulated multiverse book"}, {"start": "01:49:36", "end": "01:49:41", "text": "where she was a journalism student and"}, {"start": "01:49:38", "end": "01:49:43", "text": "she flew to South Africa to interview"}, {"start": "01:49:41", "end": "01:49:44", "text": "Nelson Mandela and he was too sick to be"}, {"start": "01:49:43", "end": "01:49:46", "text": "interviewed. So she went all the way"}, {"start": "01:49:44", "end": "01:49:48", "text": "there and she came all the way back."}, {"start": "01:49:46", "end": "01:49:50", "text": "Then she graduated probably back in the"}, {"start": "01:49:48", "end": "01:49:52", "text": "80s now and was working for NPR. So"}, {"start": "01:49:50", "end": "01:49:54", "text": "again, she was in the news industry and"}, {"start": "01:49:52", "end": "01:49:56", "text": "she heard that Nelson Mandela had died."}, {"start": "01:49:54", "end": "01:49:58", "text": "And now you're not going to get that"}, {"start": "01:49:56", "end": "01:49:59", "text": "wrong if you went there to meet the guy."}, {"start": "01:49:58", "end": "01:50:00", "text": "No,"}, {"start": "01:49:59", "end": "01:50:03", "text": ">> you're not going to say, \"Oh, that was"}, {"start": "01:50:00", "end": "01:50:05", "text": "the other black guy, Steven Vo, which is"}, {"start": "01:50:03", "end": "01:50:06", "text": "what the the standard explanation.\" Most"}, {"start": "01:50:05", "end": "01:50:08", "text": "people remembering him wrong, I can"}, {"start": "01:50:06", "end": "01:50:11", "text": "understand it. And so if there's more"}, {"start": "01:50:08", "end": "01:50:13", "text": "significance and each time I look at"}, {"start": "01:50:11", "end": "01:50:15", "text": "these events, I find people who have"}, {"start": "01:50:13", "end": "01:50:17", "text": "more significance. So one of my favorite"}, {"start": "01:50:15", "end": "01:50:19", "text": "ones is Tianaan Square. You remember"}, {"start": "01:50:17", "end": "01:50:20", "text": "that? The tank the tank boy. Yep."}, {"start": "01:50:19", "end": "01:50:22", "text": ">> And the tank went What do you remember?"}, {"start": "01:50:20", "end": "01:50:24", "text": ">> I I remember it the way it happened that"}, {"start": "01:50:22", "end": "01:50:27", "text": "the tank went around him."}, {"start": "01:50:24", "end": "01:50:29", "text": ">> That's how I remember it as well. But I"}, {"start": "01:50:27", "end": "01:50:32", "text": "I started asking people about this and"}, {"start": "01:50:29", "end": "01:50:34", "text": "there's always a certain percentage"}, {"start": "01:50:32", "end": "01:50:36", "text": ">> that remember"}, {"start": "01:50:34", "end": "01:50:38", "text": "the tank running over the guy and they"}, {"start": "01:50:36", "end": "01:50:39", "text": "remember it as one of the bloodiest"}, {"start": "01:50:38", "end": "01:50:39", "text": "things they saw."}, {"start": "01:50:39", "end": "01:50:41", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "01:50:39", "end": "01:50:43", "text": ">> On on the news like they were shocked"}, {"start": "01:50:41", "end": "01:50:47", "text": "that they were actually showing that."}, {"start": "01:50:43", "end": "01:50:48", "text": ">> Uh and so usually it's like 10 to 20% uh"}, {"start": "01:50:47", "end": "01:50:50", "text": "in a group. I was on a panel once at"}, {"start": "01:50:48", "end": "01:50:52", "text": "contact in the desert. Paul Heinneck and"}, {"start": "01:50:50", "end": "01:50:54", "text": "a few other people were on it with me."}, {"start": "01:50:52", "end": "01:50:55", "text": "Two of the people were like what? I"}, {"start": "01:50:54", "end": "01:50:58", "text": "absolutely remember him being run over."}, {"start": "01:50:55", "end": "01:51:00", "text": "So I asked at a recent conference and I"}, {"start": "01:50:58", "end": "01:51:01", "text": "always do said does anyone remember Tank"}, {"start": "01:51:00", "end": "01:51:02", "text": "Boy being run over and nobody raised"}, {"start": "01:51:01", "end": "01:51:04", "text": "their hand. So I thought okay this this"}, {"start": "01:51:02", "end": "01:51:06", "text": "audience doesn't have this Chinese woman"}, {"start": "01:51:04", "end": "01:51:09", "text": "comes up to me afterwards and she said"}, {"start": "01:51:06", "end": "01:51:10", "text": "she lived in Beijing at the time and she"}, {"start": "01:51:09", "end": "01:51:12", "text": "remembers him being run over there but"}, {"start": "01:51:10", "end": "01:51:13", "text": "she didn't raise her hand and didn't"}, {"start": "01:51:12", "end": "01:51:16", "text": "want to say it. So that's the first time"}, {"start": "01:51:13", "end": "01:51:17", "text": "I met someone who had more proximity to"}, {"start": "01:51:16", "end": "01:51:19", "text": "that specific one. And similarly there"}, {"start": "01:51:17", "end": "01:51:22", "text": "are people who are Jewish who remember"}, {"start": "01:51:19", "end": "01:51:24", "text": "asking why are the Bernstein like why"}, {"start": "01:51:22", "end": "01:51:25", "text": "are they Jewish bears to their parents."}, {"start": "01:51:24", "end": "01:51:26", "text": "Now, they're not going to get that"}, {"start": "01:51:25", "end": "01:51:27", "text": "wrong. No,"}, {"start": "01:51:26", "end": "01:51:27", "text": ">> the rest of us might get it wrong."}, {"start": "01:51:27", "end": "01:51:30", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "01:51:27", "end": "01:51:32", "text": ">> Uh and so, and then there's the Bible"}, {"start": "01:51:30", "end": "01:51:34", "text": "verses. Okay. Have you heard of Isaiah"}, {"start": "01:51:32", "end": "01:51:34", "text": "with the lion and the lamb? Do you"}, {"start": "01:51:34", "end": "01:51:35", "text": "remember that verse?"}, {"start": "01:51:34", "end": "01:51:37", "text": ">> Yes, I know the verse."}, {"start": "01:51:35", "end": "01:51:38", "text": ">> So, there's a verse about the lion will"}, {"start": "01:51:37", "end": "01:51:39", "text": "lay with the lamb."}, {"start": "01:51:38", "end": "01:51:40", "text": ">> Yeah, that's not the verse."}, {"start": "01:51:39", "end": "01:51:41", "text": ">> It's not the verse, but that's how a lot"}, {"start": "01:51:40", "end": "01:51:43", "text": "of people remember that verse."}, {"start": "01:51:41", "end": "01:51:44", "text": ">> The lion lays with the kid. The leopard"}, {"start": "01:51:43", "end": "01:51:45", "text": "lays with the kid."}, {"start": "01:51:44", "end": "01:51:47", "text": ">> The wolf lays with the wolf with the"}, {"start": "01:51:45", "end": "01:51:48", "text": "lion. The leopard with the kid. That's"}, {"start": "01:51:47", "end": "01:51:50", "text": "So, that's a Mandela effect."}, {"start": "01:51:48", "end": "01:51:52", "text": ">> That's a Mandela effect because people"}, {"start": "01:51:50", "end": "01:51:54", "text": "remember the lion and the lamb laying"}, {"start": "01:51:52", "end": "01:51:55", "text": "together. And there are even like, you"}, {"start": "01:51:54", "end": "01:51:58", "text": "know, people with wall calendars that"}, {"start": "01:51:55", "end": "01:51:59", "text": "show a lion and a lamb and say Isaiah,"}, {"start": "01:51:58", "end": "01:52:01", "text": ">> yeah, that's not it."}, {"start": "01:51:59", "end": "01:52:03", "text": ">> 111. And again, it's one of those things"}, {"start": "01:52:01", "end": "01:52:05", "text": "that people take a little more seriously"}, {"start": "01:52:03", "end": "01:52:06", "text": "with their scripture, right? Because"}, {"start": "01:52:05", "end": "01:52:08", "text": "they remember. So, and I thought, okay,"}, {"start": "01:52:06", "end": "01:52:10", "text": "well, maybe they're looking at two"}, {"start": "01:52:08", "end": "01:52:11", "text": "different translations of the Bible."}, {"start": "01:52:10", "end": "01:52:12", "text": "They're looking at, you know, one that"}, {"start": "01:52:11", "end": "01:52:14", "text": "happened to translate it."}, {"start": "01:52:12", "end": "01:52:16", "text": ">> Uh, but they're people are telling me,"}, {"start": "01:52:14", "end": "01:52:18", "text": "no, in their King James Bible, it used"}, {"start": "01:52:16", "end": "01:52:20", "text": "to be the lion with a lamb,"}, {"start": "01:52:18", "end": "01:52:23", "text": ">> and the physical object has changed. So"}, {"start": "01:52:20", "end": "01:52:25", "text": "recently I met uh someone who's a"}, {"start": "01:52:23", "end": "01:52:27", "text": "actually another blogger and podcaster"}, {"start": "01:52:25", "end": "01:52:30", "text": "named Alexis Brookson. She said she went"}, {"start": "01:52:27", "end": "01:52:32", "text": "to her Catholic priest and she said, \"Do"}, {"start": "01:52:30", "end": "01:52:33", "text": "you remember the lion, the verse with"}, {"start": "01:52:32", "end": "01:52:35", "text": "the lion?\" He goes, \"Yeah, the lion will"}, {"start": "01:52:33", "end": "01:52:36", "text": "lay with a lamb.\" And she's like, \"Okay,"}, {"start": "01:52:35", "end": "01:52:38", "text": "now go look it up.\" And she he looked it"}, {"start": "01:52:36", "end": "01:52:41", "text": "up and he's like, \"What?\" So you have a"}, {"start": "01:52:38", "end": "01:52:42", "text": "Catholic priest, again, somebody who's"}, {"start": "01:52:41", "end": "01:52:44", "text": "closer to it."}, {"start": "01:52:42", "end": "01:52:46", "text": ">> Uh and there's another interesting"}, {"start": "01:52:44", "end": "01:52:47", "text": "scriptural element which we'll come to"}, {"start": "01:52:46", "end": "01:52:51", "text": "in a second. But the other one that"}, {"start": "01:52:47", "end": "01:52:51", "text": "really got me was the thinker. The"}, {"start": "01:52:51", "end": "01:52:52", "text": ">> the statue."}, {"start": "01:52:51", "end": "01:52:54", "text": ">> Yeah, the statue."}, {"start": "01:52:52", "end": "01:52:56", "text": ">> So if you look at it today and and"}, {"start": "01:52:54", "end": "01:52:57", "text": "there's a cast of it at Stanford. I was"}, {"start": "01:52:56", "end": "01:52:59", "text": "happen to be in Silicon Valley. So I"}, {"start": "01:52:57", "end": "01:53:00", "text": "went to look at it. You know where's his"}, {"start": "01:52:59", "end": "01:53:00", "text": "hand? Do you remember where his hand"}, {"start": "01:53:00", "end": "01:53:01", "text": "was?"}, {"start": "01:53:00", "end": "01:53:03", "text": ">> On his chin."}, {"start": "01:53:01", "end": "01:53:04", "text": ">> On his chin. And was it clenched or was"}, {"start": "01:53:03", "end": "01:53:06", "text": "it kind of like this?"}, {"start": "01:53:04", "end": "01:53:07", "text": ">> I don't remember that. I thought I"}, {"start": "01:53:06", "end": "01:53:09", "text": "thought it was kind of fisty."}, {"start": "01:53:07", "end": "01:53:10", "text": ">> Yeah. If you look at it, it's kind of"}, {"start": "01:53:09", "end": "01:53:11", "text": "like kind of not really clenched too"}, {"start": "01:53:10", "end": "01:53:13", "text": "hard. It's kind of"}, {"start": "01:53:11", "end": "01:53:14", "text": ">> Right. Right. But there are all these"}, {"start": "01:53:13", "end": "01:53:17", "text": "people who took pictures standing next"}, {"start": "01:53:14", "end": "01:53:18", "text": "to the thinker like this with their hand"}, {"start": "01:53:17", "end": "01:53:20", "text": "on their forehead. That's weird."}, {"start": "01:53:18", "end": "01:53:22", "text": ">> And there are people who remember it"}, {"start": "01:53:20", "end": "01:53:23", "text": "that way, but if you look at the"}, {"start": "01:53:22", "end": "01:53:25", "text": "pictures, it's not there. And so again,"}, {"start": "01:53:23", "end": "01:53:26", "text": "I thought, okay, maybe they're pranking"}, {"start": "01:53:25", "end": "01:53:27", "text": "us. Like what's going on? Why are these"}, {"start": "01:53:26", "end": "01:53:28", "text": "random people putting these pictures?"}, {"start": "01:53:27", "end": "01:53:30", "text": "Because usually when you take a picture"}, {"start": "01:53:28", "end": "01:53:33", "text": "next to a statue and you you get the"}, {"start": "01:53:30", "end": "01:53:36", "text": "pose, you're trying to do the actual"}, {"start": "01:53:33", "end": "01:53:39", "text": "pose. And then turns out there's a"}, {"start": "01:53:36", "end": "01:53:41", "text": "picture uh an actual picture of George"}, {"start": "01:53:39", "end": "01:53:43", "text": "Bernard Shaw. So GB Shaw was a uh you"}, {"start": "01:53:41", "end": "01:53:47", "text": "know he's a well-known guy in England."}, {"start": "01:53:43", "end": "01:53:50", "text": "He also modeled for Rodan and for other"}, {"start": "01:53:47", "end": "01:53:54", "text": "people and they were doing uh the London"}, {"start": "01:53:50", "end": "01:53:55", "text": "release uh of the thinker uh and they"}, {"start": "01:53:54", "end": "01:53:57", "text": "were unveiling it in London. I forget"}, {"start": "01:53:55", "end": "01:54:02", "text": "what year, like 1900 something, 90,"}, {"start": "01:53:57", "end": "01:54:05", "text": "1901, maybe it was 1910. And they took a"}, {"start": "01:54:02", "end": "01:54:07", "text": "picture of him, this one photographer,"}, {"start": "01:54:05", "end": "01:54:09", "text": "and it says, the title of the picture,"}, {"start": "01:54:07", "end": "01:54:11", "text": "and you can find it online, is GB Shaw"}, {"start": "01:54:09", "end": "01:54:12", "text": "in the pose of the thinker. And guess"}, {"start": "01:54:11", "end": "01:54:13", "text": "where his hand is? It's up on his"}, {"start": "01:54:12", "end": "01:54:14", "text": "forehead."}, {"start": "01:54:13", "end": "01:54:15", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "01:54:14", "end": "01:54:17", "text": ">> And that picture is still there in"}, {"start": "01:54:15", "end": "01:54:19", "text": "museums, and there are plenty of uh, you"}, {"start": "01:54:17", "end": "01:54:22", "text": "know, people can find it online. And so"}, {"start": "01:54:19", "end": "01:54:25", "text": "is is it possible that some variables"}, {"start": "01:54:22", "end": "01:54:26", "text": "are being changed in a way? U and and so"}, {"start": "01:54:25", "end": "01:54:28", "text": "I I began to think,"}, {"start": "01:54:26", "end": "01:54:29", "text": ">> well, which ones got you?"}, {"start": "01:54:28", "end": "01:54:30", "text": ">> So that one got me, the thinker."}, {"start": "01:54:29", "end": "01:54:31", "text": ">> The thinker."}, {"start": "01:54:30", "end": "01:54:32", "text": ">> Not not because I didn't remember it. I"}, {"start": "01:54:31", "end": "01:54:34", "text": "mean, I remembered it."}, {"start": "01:54:32", "end": "01:54:36", "text": ">> I wasn't that close to it, so I didn't"}, {"start": "01:54:34", "end": "01:54:37", "text": "think too much about it, but seeing the"}, {"start": "01:54:36", "end": "01:54:39", "text": "physical evidence"}, {"start": "01:54:37", "end": "01:54:42", "text": ">> of this picture really got me. That's"}, {"start": "01:54:39", "end": "01:54:44", "text": "one that got me. Uh I mean, there the"}, {"start": "01:54:42", "end": "01:54:45", "text": "the Jaws one was another one that I"}, {"start": "01:54:44", "end": "01:54:47", "text": "remember."}, {"start": "01:54:45", "end": "01:54:49", "text": ">> I mean, Jif Jiffy Peanut Butter wasn't"}, {"start": "01:54:47", "end": "01:54:50", "text": "that big of a deal to me. Uh there's a"}, {"start": "01:54:49", "end": "01:54:53", "text": "famous one about in Star Wars and the"}, {"start": "01:54:50", "end": "01:54:54", "text": "Empire Strikes Back where you know Luke"}, {"start": "01:54:53", "end": "01:54:56", "text": "I am your father again I think that"}, {"start": "01:54:54", "end": "01:54:56", "text": "could be just faulty memory"}, {"start": "01:54:56", "end": "01:54:59", "text": ">> I think so"}, {"start": "01:54:56", "end": "01:55:01", "text": ">> collective faulty memory uh I mean there"}, {"start": "01:54:59", "end": "01:55:03", "text": "there's so many now that I've come"}, {"start": "01:55:01", "end": "01:55:04", "text": "across and so Chick-fil-A is another one"}, {"start": "01:55:03", "end": "01:55:05", "text": "like does it have a K in the"}, {"start": "01:55:04", "end": "01:55:07", "text": "Chick-fil-A?"}, {"start": "01:55:05", "end": "01:55:09", "text": ">> That's right. That's right. That would"}, {"start": "01:55:07", "end": "01:55:12", "text": "probably get me. You know, I read an"}, {"start": "01:55:09", "end": "01:55:13", "text": "interesting theory about um Jaws that"}, {"start": "01:55:12", "end": "01:55:15", "text": "made me feel a little better is"}, {"start": "01:55:13", "end": "01:55:17", "text": "sometimes when you're remembering,"}, {"start": "01:55:15", "end": "01:55:19", "text": "especially if it's a long time ago, your"}, {"start": "01:55:17", "end": "01:55:22", "text": "brain fills in what would be most"}, {"start": "01:55:19", "end": "01:55:23", "text": "logical cuz that joke works better if"}, {"start": "01:55:22", "end": "01:55:24", "text": "she has braces,"}, {"start": "01:55:23", "end": "01:55:26", "text": ">> right? Yeah."}, {"start": "01:55:24", "end": "01:55:28", "text": ">> So, that made me feel better. But that"}, {"start": "01:55:26", "end": "01:55:30", "text": "was one that blew my mind because I was"}, {"start": "01:55:28", "end": "01:55:31", "text": "like, I remember all this stuff"}, {"start": "01:55:30", "end": "01:55:34", "text": "perfectly. No, I don't."}, {"start": "01:55:31", "end": "01:55:36", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there's there's so"}, {"start": "01:55:34", "end": "01:55:39", "text": "many of these. Uh, so I was looking"}, {"start": "01:55:36", "end": "01:55:41", "text": "around at explanations. Um, and uh, so"}, {"start": "01:55:39", "end": "01:55:42", "text": "we'll go down the the quantum rabbit"}, {"start": "01:55:41", "end": "01:55:43", "text": "hole again in a second,"}, {"start": "01:55:42", "end": "01:55:45", "text": ">> please."}, {"start": "01:55:43", "end": "01:55:47", "text": ">> But I I began to wonder, the scripture"}, {"start": "01:55:45", "end": "01:55:48", "text": "stuff really got me, too. Not because I"}, {"start": "01:55:47", "end": "01:55:49", "text": "remembered the scripture. I mean, I"}, {"start": "01:55:48", "end": "01:55:52", "text": "remembered the lion lamb, too, but I'm"}, {"start": "01:55:49", "end": "01:55:54", "text": "not that religious. I began to wonder if"}, {"start": "01:55:52", "end": "01:55:57", "text": "there's other scriptures"}, {"start": "01:55:54", "end": "01:55:59", "text": "that have changed. And in Islam, the"}, {"start": "01:55:57", "end": "01:56:00", "text": "Quran, right? Islam is the second"}, {"start": "01:55:59", "end": "01:56:06", "text": "biggest religion after Christianity. The"}, {"start": "01:56:00", "end": "01:56:08", "text": "Quran is memorized word for word. Uh,"}, {"start": "01:56:06", "end": "01:56:10", "text": "and you can think of the the reason why"}, {"start": "01:56:08", "end": "01:56:12", "text": "and like the the exoteric or normal"}, {"start": "01:56:10", "end": "01:56:14", "text": "reason why is probably just because not"}, {"start": "01:56:12", "end": "01:56:15", "text": "a lot of people could read back then or"}, {"start": "01:56:14", "end": "01:56:17", "text": "you know so they but they literally"}, {"start": "01:56:15", "end": "01:56:20", "text": "recited it word for word and and there's"}, {"start": "01:56:17", "end": "01:56:23", "text": "even a designation of a guy who knows"}, {"start": "01:56:20", "end": "01:56:25", "text": "all of that and uh and and I looked"}, {"start": "01:56:23", "end": "01:56:28", "text": "around to say hey is anyone claimed that"}, {"start": "01:56:25", "end": "01:56:31", "text": "this has changed at all and there's one"}, {"start": "01:56:28", "end": "01:56:33", "text": "Sufi imam uh and again the exoteric"}, {"start": "01:56:31", "end": "01:56:36", "text": "reason is is because not everybody has a"}, {"start": "01:56:33", "end": "01:56:40", "text": "physical book the esoteric reason he"}, {"start": "01:56:36", "end": "01:56:42", "text": "gave he said that there are beings"}, {"start": "01:56:40", "end": "01:56:44", "text": "that are allowed to go back in time and"}, {"start": "01:56:42", "end": "01:56:44", "text": "change objects."}, {"start": "01:56:44", "end": "01:56:46", "text": ">> Oh,"}, {"start": "01:56:44", "end": "01:56:46", "text": ">> but they are not allowed to change your"}, {"start": "01:56:46", "end": "01:56:48", "text": "memory."}, {"start": "01:56:46", "end": "01:56:50", "text": ">> I know these beings. Uh tell us about"}, {"start": "01:56:48", "end": "01:56:50", "text": ">> these beings are called the jin."}, {"start": "01:56:50", "end": "01:56:53", "text": ">> The jin. Yes."}, {"start": "01:56:50", "end": "01:56:54", "text": ">> Yeah. In in Middle Eastern lore. And you"}, {"start": "01:56:53", "end": "01:56:56", "text": "go to the Middle East and people take"}, {"start": "01:56:54", "end": "01:56:56", "text": "you know these beings very seriously. Oh"}, {"start": "01:56:56", "end": "01:56:58", "text": "yeah."}, {"start": "01:56:56", "end": "01:57:00", "text": ">> Uh I mean people get possessed by these"}, {"start": "01:56:58", "end": "01:57:02", "text": "beings. There are well I mean when I I I"}, {"start": "01:57:00", "end": "01:57:03", "text": "was born in Pakistan and you know it was"}, {"start": "01:57:02", "end": "01:57:05", "text": "kind of like the boogeyman like you know"}, {"start": "01:57:03", "end": "01:57:07", "text": "there's a gin over there don't pee don't"}, {"start": "01:57:05", "end": "01:57:09", "text": "pee on that tree but then it turns out"}, {"start": "01:57:07", "end": "01:57:11", "text": "there are actual people who like poured"}, {"start": "01:57:09", "end": "01:57:14", "text": "scalding Jacques Valet told me a story"}, {"start": "01:57:11", "end": "01:57:16", "text": "of a guy in Saudi Arabia where a kid who"}, {"start": "01:57:14", "end": "01:57:18", "text": "like poured scalding water and then got"}, {"start": "01:57:16", "end": "01:57:20", "text": "possessed and supposedly there was a gin"}, {"start": "01:57:18", "end": "01:57:21", "text": "and a priest had to come in and do kind"}, {"start": "01:57:20", "end": "01:57:23", "text": "of like an exorcism but he had to talk"}, {"start": "01:57:21", "end": "01:57:25", "text": "the jin out of it saying he's just a"}, {"start": "01:57:23", "end": "01:57:27", "text": "young kid he didn't know what he was"}, {"start": "01:57:25", "end": "01:57:28", "text": "doing and the jin was like okay and they"}, {"start": "01:57:27", "end": "01:57:30", "text": "released him and wow Wow,"}, {"start": "01:57:28", "end": "01:57:31", "text": ">> there's so many interesting stories."}, {"start": "01:57:30", "end": "01:57:33", "text": "That's that's a huge different rabbit"}, {"start": "01:57:31", "end": "01:57:34", "text": "hole to go down. But I got"}, {"start": "01:57:33", "end": "01:57:36", "text": ">> in tune, I think, though."}, {"start": "01:57:34", "end": "01:57:38", "text": ">> Yeah, it's so in tune. And I got"}, {"start": "01:57:36", "end": "01:57:41", "text": "interested in it because it became a way"}, {"start": "01:57:38", "end": "01:57:43", "text": "to think about simulation theory as if"}, {"start": "01:57:41", "end": "01:57:46", "text": "you have run this more than once. You"}, {"start": "01:57:43", "end": "01:57:47", "text": "could have changed things along the way."}, {"start": "01:57:46", "end": "01:57:50", "text": "Now, it's very easy for us to think of"}, {"start": "01:57:47", "end": "01:57:52", "text": "multiple possible futures like, okay, I"}, {"start": "01:57:50", "end": "01:57:54", "text": "go to New York, I go to London, I go to"}, {"start": "01:57:52", "end": "01:57:57", "text": "live in LA. Those are three different"}, {"start": "01:57:54", "end": "01:58:01", "text": "possible futures. But it we're not used"}, {"start": "01:57:57", "end": "01:58:02", "text": "to thinking of multiple possible past. I"}, {"start": "01:58:01", "end": "01:58:04", "text": "mean that's that sounds weird to say"}, {"start": "01:58:02", "end": "01:58:05", "text": "there could be more than one past. Well,"}, {"start": "01:58:04", "end": "01:58:06", "text": "it turns out there's something called"}, {"start": "01:58:05", "end": "01:58:08", "text": "the delayed choice experiment."}, {"start": "01:58:06", "end": "01:58:09", "text": ">> I I was hoping this was going to come"}, {"start": "01:58:08", "end": "01:58:10", "text": "back to John Wheeler."}, {"start": "01:58:09", "end": "01:58:11", "text": ">> Yeah. So, we're going to come back to"}, {"start": "01:58:10", "end": "01:58:13", "text": "John Wheeler."}, {"start": "01:58:11", "end": "01:58:15", "text": ">> Actually, could we take a quick break?"}, {"start": "01:58:13", "end": "01:58:16", "text": ">> Yeah. Take quick break and we'll talk"}, {"start": "01:58:15", "end": "01:58:19", "text": "about how the past is not really the"}, {"start": "01:58:16", "end": "01:58:20", "text": "past. Yeah. Be right back."}, {"start": "01:58:19", "end": "01:58:23", "text": ">> Take some photons, shoot them at two"}, {"start": "01:58:20", "end": "01:58:25", "text": "slits, you get two lines. Observe it."}, {"start": "01:58:23", "end": "01:58:27", "text": "You get an interference pattern. Got it."}, {"start": "01:58:25", "end": "01:58:29", "text": "John Whiddler said, \"Wait a second. What"}, {"start": "01:58:27", "end": "01:58:31", "text": "happens next?\""}, {"start": "01:58:29", "end": "01:58:32", "text": ">> Yeah. So, he came up with what's called"}, {"start": "01:58:31", "end": "01:58:33", "text": "the delayed choice double slit"}, {"start": "01:58:32", "end": "01:58:34", "text": "experiment."}, {"start": "01:58:33", "end": "01:58:35", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "01:58:34", "end": "01:58:38", "text": ">> And"}, {"start": "01:58:35", "end": "01:58:42", "text": "you know what it's telling us is that"}, {"start": "01:58:38", "end": "01:58:45", "text": "time is not what we think it is."}, {"start": "01:58:42", "end": "01:58:47", "text": "That the present, the past, and the"}, {"start": "01:58:45", "end": "01:58:49", "text": "future are different from the way we"}, {"start": "01:58:47", "end": "01:58:50", "text": "think about it. I mean, we think of the"}, {"start": "01:58:49", "end": "01:58:52", "text": "past as being linear."}, {"start": "01:58:50", "end": "01:58:54", "text": ">> We know what happened, right? It's just"}, {"start": "01:58:52", "end": "01:58:56", "text": "one timeline. This is what's happened"}, {"start": "01:58:54", "end": "01:58:58", "text": "along the way and that the delayed"}, {"start": "01:58:56", "end": "01:59:02", "text": "choice experiment opened up an"}, {"start": "01:58:58", "end": "01:59:05", "text": "opportunity that the past could also be"}, {"start": "01:59:02", "end": "01:59:06", "text": "in superp position. Now the best way to"}, {"start": "01:59:05", "end": "01:59:08", "text": "understand this actually is not so much"}, {"start": "01:59:06", "end": "01:59:11", "text": "the slits but it's what what what called"}, {"start": "01:59:08", "end": "01:59:14", "text": "the cosmic delayed choice experiment."}, {"start": "01:59:11", "end": "01:59:17", "text": ">> Okay. And um he said suppose there's"}, {"start": "01:59:14", "end": "01:59:18", "text": "something like a quazar which puts out a"}, {"start": "01:59:17", "end": "01:59:21", "text": "lot of light and it's really far away"}, {"start": "01:59:18", "end": "01:59:22", "text": "from us like a billion light years."}, {"start": "01:59:21", "end": "01:59:25", "text": "Right? So that would be outside the"}, {"start": "01:59:22", "end": "01:59:26", "text": "galaxy beyond the Andromeda galaxy. And"}, {"start": "01:59:25", "end": "01:59:28", "text": "how long would it take for the light to"}, {"start": "01:59:26", "end": "01:59:30", "text": "reach Earth? Let's say Earth is here."}, {"start": "01:59:28", "end": "01:59:31", "text": "It's going to take a billion years,"}, {"start": "01:59:30", "end": "01:59:33", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "01:59:31", "end": "01:59:36", "text": ">> But suppose right in the middle there's"}, {"start": "01:59:33", "end": "01:59:39", "text": "a big black hole or some other big"}, {"start": "01:59:36", "end": "01:59:41", "text": "gravitational object and the light has"}, {"start": "01:59:39", "end": "01:59:43", "text": "to make a decision about whether to go"}, {"start": "01:59:41", "end": "01:59:44", "text": "to the left or to the right of"}, {"start": "01:59:43", "end": "01:59:45", "text": ">> ah okay."}, {"start": "01:59:44", "end": "01:59:48", "text": ">> Okay. And that's kind of like two slits."}, {"start": "01:59:45", "end": "01:59:51", "text": "Yeah. And we can have telescopes here on"}, {"start": "01:59:48", "end": "01:59:52", "text": "Earth that will measure"}, {"start": "01:59:51", "end": "01:59:55", "text": "through what's called polarization of"}, {"start": "01:59:52", "end": "01:59:55", "text": "light whether it went this way or that"}, {"start": "01:59:55", "end": "01:59:56", "text": "way."}, {"start": "01:59:55", "end": "01:59:58", "text": ">> Right?"}, {"start": "01:59:56", "end": "02:00:01", "text": ">> Okay. So the measurement happens now,"}, {"start": "01:59:58", "end": "02:00:03", "text": ">> but it has to go one way or the other"}, {"start": "02:00:01", "end": "02:00:05", "text": ">> like"}, {"start": "02:00:03", "end": "02:00:06", "text": ">> let's say it's halfway. So how long ago"}, {"start": "02:00:05", "end": "02:00:08", "text": "would the decision have to have been"}, {"start": "02:00:06", "end": "02:00:09", "text": "made? It would have been half a billion"}, {"start": "02:00:08", "end": "02:00:11", "text": "years ago. Right."}, {"start": "02:00:09", "end": "02:00:12", "text": ">> Right. So we're back in the age of the"}, {"start": "02:00:11", "end": "02:00:15", "text": "dinosaurs now at this point. Right. Or"}, {"start": "02:00:12", "end": "02:00:17", "text": "even Yeah. before the dinosaurs. It's"}, {"start": "02:00:15", "end": "02:00:19", "text": "kind of like saying if you're going to"}, {"start": "02:00:17", "end": "02:00:22", "text": "go to, you know, San Francisco from New"}, {"start": "02:00:19", "end": "02:00:23", "text": "York, are you going to go up towards"}, {"start": "02:00:22", "end": "02:00:25", "text": "Chicago or are you going to go down"}, {"start": "02:00:23", "end": "02:00:27", "text": "through Tennessee, Arkansas? You have to"}, {"start": "02:00:25", "end": "02:00:28", "text": "make that decision like well before you"}, {"start": "02:00:27", "end": "02:00:31", "text": "get to San Francisco."}, {"start": "02:00:28", "end": "02:00:34", "text": ">> Yes. Um now what the delayed choice"}, {"start": "02:00:31", "end": "02:00:36", "text": "experiment is telling us is that it's"}, {"start": "02:00:34", "end": "02:00:39", "text": "when the measurement of the light is"}, {"start": "02:00:36", "end": "02:00:43", "text": "done today on earth that the decision"}, {"start": "02:00:39", "end": "02:00:46", "text": "gets made on whether the it the light"}, {"start": "02:00:43", "end": "02:00:48", "text": "went to the left or to the right of that"}, {"start": "02:00:46", "end": "02:00:51", "text": "black hole. Okay, that's weird because"}, {"start": "02:00:48", "end": "02:00:53", "text": "now we're saying that the past isn't"}, {"start": "02:00:51", "end": "02:00:55", "text": "fixed that the past is in superp"}, {"start": "02:00:53", "end": "02:00:58", "text": "position and it's only when the"}, {"start": "02:00:55", "end": "02:01:02", "text": "measurement is done here. It's like an"}, {"start": "02:00:58", "end": "02:01:03", "text": "observer effect but for time not just"}, {"start": "02:01:02", "end": "02:01:05", "text": "for space."}, {"start": "02:01:03", "end": "02:01:08", "text": ">> Those photons went back in time to make"}, {"start": "02:01:05", "end": "02:01:10", "text": "the decision about today's observation."}, {"start": "02:01:08", "end": "02:01:12", "text": ">> Well, that's one interpretation of it."}, {"start": "02:01:10", "end": "02:01:16", "text": "Okay. The other interpretation is that"}, {"start": "02:01:12", "end": "02:01:20", "text": "both of those existed as possibilities"}, {"start": "02:01:16", "end": "02:01:24", "text": "and they didn't get fixed until today."}, {"start": "02:01:20", "end": "02:01:26", "text": "So again, did Germany or Japan win World"}, {"start": "02:01:24", "end": "02:01:28", "text": "War II? Germany and Japan, did the"}, {"start": "02:01:26", "end": "02:01:30", "text": "allies win World War II? What if that"}, {"start": "02:01:28", "end": "02:01:33", "text": "decision isn't made until somebody"}, {"start": "02:01:30", "end": "02:01:35", "text": "observes the result and then that result"}, {"start": "02:01:33", "end": "02:01:38", "text": "is cashed now so that everybody is on"}, {"start": "02:01:35", "end": "02:01:41", "text": "that timeline for some period of time?"}, {"start": "02:01:38", "end": "02:01:44", "text": "Uh and this to me was an interesting"}, {"start": "02:01:41", "end": "02:01:47", "text": "revelation because it reveals that there"}, {"start": "02:01:44", "end": "02:01:50", "text": "could be a simulated multiverse of"}, {"start": "02:01:47", "end": "02:01:52", "text": "multiple timelines. Okay? Because what"}, {"start": "02:01:50", "end": "02:01:54", "text": "if what we're really thinking about is"}, {"start": "02:01:52", "end": "02:01:57", "text": "we ran the simulation one way and we"}, {"start": "02:01:54", "end": "02:02:01", "text": "also ran it the other way and we are"}, {"start": "02:01:57", "end": "02:02:05", "text": "basically pulling the past in on demand."}, {"start": "02:02:01", "end": "02:02:08", "text": "Now, you'll appreciate this because not"}, {"start": "02:02:05", "end": "02:02:11", "text": "only do we optimize resources with lazy"}, {"start": "02:02:08", "end": "02:02:14", "text": "evaluation, but we also say, you know,"}, {"start": "02:02:11", "end": "02:02:14", "text": "don't run something until it's needed."}, {"start": "02:02:14", "end": "02:02:18", "text": ">> Right."}, {"start": "02:02:14", "end": "02:02:20", "text": ">> Right. And so in a computer game, let's"}, {"start": "02:02:18", "end": "02:02:22", "text": "say like Farmville or Minecraft, okay,"}, {"start": "02:02:20", "end": "02:02:24", "text": "kids still play Minecraft today. They"}, {"start": "02:02:22", "end": "02:02:28", "text": "have crops that grow. And what happens"}, {"start": "02:02:24", "end": "02:02:29", "text": "is you log in and it you see that the"}, {"start": "02:02:28", "end": "02:02:32", "text": "crops have grown since you logged in"}, {"start": "02:02:29", "end": "02:02:36", "text": "yesterday or four hours ago or whatever"}, {"start": "02:02:32", "end": "02:02:38", "text": "the case is. Uh and now"}, {"start": "02:02:36", "end": "02:02:41", "text": "what happens during the time that you're"}, {"start": "02:02:38", "end": "02:02:42", "text": "not logged in? And the answer is"}, {"start": "02:02:41", "end": "02:02:42", "text": "nothing."}, {"start": "02:02:42", "end": "02:02:44", "text": ">> Nothing"}, {"start": "02:02:42", "end": "02:02:46", "text": ">> because it would take too many resources"}, {"start": "02:02:44", "end": "02:02:49", "text": "to sit there and calculate every single"}, {"start": "02:02:46", "end": "02:02:51", "text": "growth of every single blade of grass or"}, {"start": "02:02:49", "end": "02:02:53", "text": "of wheat, you know, for that time. So"}, {"start": "02:02:51", "end": "02:02:54", "text": "what the computer does is it's when you"}, {"start": "02:02:53", "end": "02:02:57", "text": "log in,"}, {"start": "02:02:54", "end": "02:03:00", "text": ">> it basically renders what might have"}, {"start": "02:02:57", "end": "02:03:01", "text": "happened over the last x period of time,"}, {"start": "02:03:00", "end": "02:03:03", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "02:03:01", "end": "02:03:05", "text": ">> Let's say 24 hours. And it uses a"}, {"start": "02:03:03", "end": "02:03:07", "text": "database of probabilities to say, what's"}, {"start": "02:03:05", "end": "02:03:09", "text": "the probability that your crops were"}, {"start": "02:03:07", "end": "02:03:10", "text": "destroyed by a locust?"}, {"start": "02:03:09", "end": "02:03:12", "text": ">> What's the probability that your"}, {"start": "02:03:10", "end": "02:03:15", "text": "neighbor came in and stole some of your"}, {"start": "02:03:12", "end": "02:03:18", "text": "crops or that the fox got in and ruined"}, {"start": "02:03:15", "end": "02:03:20", "text": "a few crops? And you see it as this is"}, {"start": "02:03:18", "end": "02:03:23", "text": "what's happened now. my crops are all"}, {"start": "02:03:20", "end": "02:03:25", "text": "grown. I can now sell my crops. But what"}, {"start": "02:03:23", "end": "02:03:29", "text": "just happened there was that the past"}, {"start": "02:03:25", "end": "02:03:30", "text": "was generated on demand. So it's not so"}, {"start": "02:03:29", "end": "02:03:32", "text": "much that you're changing the past"}, {"start": "02:03:30", "end": "02:03:33", "text": "because physicists don't like that."}, {"start": "02:03:32", "end": "02:03:36", "text": "Physicists don't like when you say"}, {"start": "02:03:33", "end": "02:03:39", "text": "retrocausation. It's that you are"}, {"start": "02:03:36", "end": "02:03:41", "text": "filling in the past based upon the"}, {"start": "02:03:39", "end": "02:03:42", "text": "observations as it's made. And there"}, {"start": "02:03:41", "end": "02:03:43", "text": "could have been multiple possible"}, {"start": "02:03:42", "end": "02:03:44", "text": "versions of that."}, {"start": "02:03:43", "end": "02:03:47", "text": ">> Oh, I like this."}, {"start": "02:03:44", "end": "02:03:49", "text": ">> So that's a different way to think about"}, {"start": "02:03:47", "end": "02:03:51", "text": "time. Now, is it possible that some of"}, {"start": "02:03:49", "end": "02:03:54", "text": "us are remembering one version of the"}, {"start": "02:03:51", "end": "02:03:56", "text": "Mandela effect? And you know, we talked"}, {"start": "02:03:54", "end": "02:03:57", "text": "about uh ones that got you, like the"}, {"start": "02:03:56", "end": "02:03:59", "text": "Jaws one."}, {"start": "02:03:57", "end": "02:04:01", "text": ">> Uh you know, there's another one."}, {"start": "02:03:59", "end": "02:04:03", "text": ">> There's a there's a famous one about"}, {"start": "02:04:01", "end": "02:04:05", "text": "Simbad being in a movie. Oh, yeah."}, {"start": "02:04:03", "end": "02:04:07", "text": "That's right. Shazam. And it turns out"}, {"start": "02:04:05", "end": "02:04:08", "text": "it was Shaq and Kazam."}, {"start": "02:04:07", "end": "02:04:11", "text": ">> That's right. But so many people, you"}, {"start": "02:04:08", "end": "02:04:13", "text": "know, would swear they had a VHS tape"}, {"start": "02:04:11", "end": "02:04:15", "text": "and the story was like this and the kids"}, {"start": "02:04:13", "end": "02:04:19", "text": "are asking the genie about his dad that"}, {"start": "02:04:15", "end": "02:04:20", "text": "Simbad actually recorded in like 2017 a"}, {"start": "02:04:19", "end": "02:04:23", "text": "little clip from this movie that never"}, {"start": "02:04:20", "end": "02:04:24", "text": "existed as kind of a joke to say, \"Okay,"}, {"start": "02:04:23", "end": "02:04:26", "text": "here's here's the scene you guys all say"}, {"start": "02:04:24", "end": "02:04:26", "text": "you saw but never existed,"}, {"start": "02:04:26", "end": "02:04:29", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "02:04:26", "end": "02:04:30", "text": ">> But people remembered it.\" Uh, you know,"}, {"start": "02:04:29", "end": "02:04:32", "text": "so so many different versions and"}, {"start": "02:04:30", "end": "02:04:34", "text": "Mandela effects. Gino has one for you"}, {"start": "02:04:32", "end": "02:04:35", "text": "that I can't reveal to you. He's going"}, {"start": "02:04:34", "end": "02:04:38", "text": "to tell you later."}, {"start": "02:04:35", "end": "02:04:40", "text": ">> Okay. But is it possible that we are all"}, {"start": "02:04:38", "end": "02:04:42", "text": "remembering a different version? Now I"}, {"start": "02:04:40", "end": "02:04:44", "text": "thought, okay, that's the delay choice"}, {"start": "02:04:42", "end": "02:04:46", "text": "experiment. Wheeler proposed it as a"}, {"start": "02:04:44", "end": "02:04:48", "text": "thought experiment. He couldn't do it at"}, {"start": "02:04:46", "end": "02:04:49", "text": "the time. It required like like pretty"}, {"start": "02:04:48", "end": "02:04:51", "text": "complex setup."}, {"start": "02:04:49", "end": "02:04:53", "text": ">> And so, you know, is it just a thought"}, {"start": "02:04:51", "end": "02:04:54", "text": "experiment? Well, it turns out no."}, {"start": "02:04:53", "end": "02:04:55", "text": ">> People have actually run this"}, {"start": "02:04:54", "end": "02:04:57", "text": "experiment."}, {"start": "02:04:55", "end": "02:04:58", "text": ">> They have. Now they obviously they"}, {"start": "02:04:57", "end": "02:05:00", "text": "haven't run it for like you know the"}, {"start": "02:04:58", "end": "02:05:02", "text": "cosmic version but what they've done is"}, {"start": "02:05:00", "end": "02:05:05", "text": "they've gone through two slits and"}, {"start": "02:05:02", "end": "02:05:08", "text": "they've sent uh a particle up to a"}, {"start": "02:05:05", "end": "02:05:10", "text": "satellite a thousand miles away and so"}, {"start": "02:05:08", "end": "02:05:12", "text": "the question is when they measure the"}, {"start": "02:05:10", "end": "02:05:16", "text": "particle or let's say the light using"}, {"start": "02:05:12", "end": "02:05:18", "text": "our example from the satellite it it was"}, {"start": "02:05:16", "end": "02:05:21", "text": "a thousand kilometers from the slits"}, {"start": "02:05:18", "end": "02:05:23", "text": "themselves and the question is is the"}, {"start": "02:05:21", "end": "02:05:25", "text": "decision made about which slit to go"}, {"start": "02:05:23", "end": "02:05:27", "text": "through like here like when when it"}, {"start": "02:05:25", "end": "02:05:29", "text": "first starts out in the slits or is it"}, {"start": "02:05:27", "end": "02:05:32", "text": "made after the light travels a thousand"}, {"start": "02:05:29", "end": "02:05:34", "text": "miles and 1,000 miles is not that far in"}, {"start": "02:05:32", "end": "02:05:36", "text": "the scope of things but when you're"}, {"start": "02:05:34", "end": "02:05:37", "text": "talking about you know nanconds it takes"}, {"start": "02:05:36", "end": "02:05:38", "text": "a lot of you can measure it"}, {"start": "02:05:37", "end": "02:05:40", "text": ">> yeah you can measure it and it's very"}, {"start": "02:05:38", "end": "02:05:42", "text": "measurable by today's instruments is the"}, {"start": "02:05:40", "end": "02:05:44", "text": "point and they did this experiment and"}, {"start": "02:05:42", "end": "02:05:46", "text": "they found in fact that it was in superp"}, {"start": "02:05:44", "end": "02:05:49", "text": "position until it was measured by the"}, {"start": "02:05:46", "end": "02:05:51", "text": "satellite okay so then I said well how"}, {"start": "02:05:49", "end": "02:05:54", "text": "come more physicists don't talk about"}, {"start": "02:05:51", "end": "02:05:58", "text": "this and so I went back and I found an"}, {"start": "02:05:54", "end": "02:05:59", "text": "obscure speech by our favorite quantum"}, {"start": "02:05:58", "end": "02:06:00", "text": "founder Schroinger."}, {"start": "02:05:59", "end": "02:06:02", "text": ">> Okay,"}, {"start": "02:06:00", "end": "02:06:05", "text": ">> this was an obscure speech he made in"}, {"start": "02:06:02", "end": "02:06:07", "text": "the 1940s. I think it was a Caltech and"}, {"start": "02:06:05", "end": "02:06:09", "text": "nobody talks about this for some reason."}, {"start": "02:06:07", "end": "02:06:11", "text": "U people talk about the multiverse which"}, {"start": "02:06:09", "end": "02:06:12", "text": "was you know late 50s early 60s. Uh"}, {"start": "02:06:11", "end": "02:06:16", "text": "people talk about the Copenhagen"}, {"start": "02:06:12", "end": "02:06:21", "text": "interpretation. Um he said that in"}, {"start": "02:06:16", "end": "02:06:24", "text": "effect once the observation was made we"}, {"start": "02:06:21", "end": "02:06:25", "text": "would not just be deciding the state the"}, {"start": "02:06:24", "end": "02:06:29", "text": "superposition"}, {"start": "02:06:25", "end": "02:06:30", "text": "but we would be choosing from one of"}, {"start": "02:06:29", "end": "02:06:32", "text": "several"}, {"start": "02:06:30", "end": "02:06:35", "text": "simultaneous one of multiple"}, {"start": "02:06:32", "end": "02:06:36", "text": "simultaneous histories. So literally"}, {"start": "02:06:35", "end": "02:06:39", "text": "Schroinger is telling us there are"}, {"start": "02:06:36", "end": "02:06:41", "text": "multiple simultaneous histories and it's"}, {"start": "02:06:39", "end": "02:06:42", "text": "like when you choose look at the cat"}, {"start": "02:06:41", "end": "02:06:44", "text": "you're not just choosing whether it's"}, {"start": "02:06:42", "end": "02:06:46", "text": "dead or alive. Sorry for bringing the"}, {"start": "02:06:44", "end": "02:06:48", "text": "cat back. That's okay. But what did the"}, {"start": "02:06:46", "end": "02:06:50", "text": "cat do before it jumped in the box? Was"}, {"start": "02:06:48", "end": "02:06:52", "text": "Did it come from the living room or did"}, {"start": "02:06:50", "end": "02:06:54", "text": "it come from the the dining room? Before"}, {"start": "02:06:52", "end": "02:06:55", "text": "that, was it in the backyard or was it"}, {"start": "02:06:54", "end": "02:06:58", "text": "in the front yard?"}, {"start": "02:06:55", "end": "02:07:01", "text": ">> It's like you're choosing this history"}, {"start": "02:06:58", "end": "02:07:02", "text": ">> and that is the one that is now being"}, {"start": "02:07:01", "end": "02:07:03", "text": "part of our simulation is what I would"}, {"start": "02:07:02", "end": "02:07:04", "text": "say."}, {"start": "02:07:03", "end": "02:07:06", "text": ">> I've got to read that speech."}, {"start": "02:07:04", "end": "02:07:07", "text": ">> Yeah, it's very obscure. And I have a I"}, {"start": "02:07:06", "end": "02:07:09", "text": "have a reference to it in the simulated"}, {"start": "02:07:07", "end": "02:07:11", "text": "multiverse. Uh but I've never heard"}, {"start": "02:07:09", "end": "02:07:13", "text": "anyone else talk about it. I found it,"}, {"start": "02:07:11", "end": "02:07:14", "text": "you know, when I was looking around"}, {"start": "02:07:13", "end": "02:07:16", "text": "online for the earliest references to"}, {"start": "02:07:14", "end": "02:07:19", "text": "the multiverse. And again, we think of"}, {"start": "02:07:16", "end": "02:07:21", "text": "the multiverse as, you know, branching"}, {"start": "02:07:19", "end": "02:07:24", "text": "out this way. There's a good uh there's"}, {"start": "02:07:21", "end": "02:07:25", "text": "a series on Apple TV called Dark Matter."}, {"start": "02:07:24", "end": "02:07:26", "text": "I don't know if you've seen it."}, {"start": "02:07:25", "end": "02:07:28", "text": ">> I did. I did."}, {"start": "02:07:26", "end": "02:07:29", "text": ">> It's based on a book by Blake Crouch."}, {"start": "02:07:28", "end": "02:07:31", "text": "And when I was researching the"}, {"start": "02:07:29", "end": "02:07:35", "text": "multiverse, I had read that book along"}, {"start": "02:07:31", "end": "02:07:37", "text": "with many others. Uh and uh basically,"}, {"start": "02:07:35", "end": "02:07:40", "text": "you know, this guy has multiple versions"}, {"start": "02:07:37", "end": "02:07:42", "text": "of of his life. And one of what happens"}, {"start": "02:07:40", "end": "02:07:44", "text": "is he gets kidnapped by somebody and he"}, {"start": "02:07:42", "end": "02:07:46", "text": "gets taken away and he wakes up in a"}, {"start": "02:07:44", "end": "02:07:48", "text": "whole another university than he was"}, {"start": "02:07:46", "end": "02:07:51", "text": "working at and he finds out who it was"}, {"start": "02:07:48", "end": "02:07:52", "text": "that kidnapped him. It was himself from"}, {"start": "02:07:51", "end": "02:07:53", "text": "another"}, {"start": "02:07:52", "end": "02:07:55", "text": ">> version of the multiverse who had made"}, {"start": "02:07:53", "end": "02:07:57", "text": "different choices. And that guy although"}, {"start": "02:07:55", "end": "02:07:59", "text": "he was like almost like a Nobel Prize"}, {"start": "02:07:57", "end": "02:08:01", "text": "winning physicist he didn't have a"}, {"start": "02:07:59", "end": "02:08:03", "text": "family and kids. And so that guy is"}, {"start": "02:08:01", "end": "02:08:05", "text": "taking over his family and kids. Uh, I"}, {"start": "02:08:03", "end": "02:08:06", "text": "won't tell the rest of the the the book,"}, {"start": "02:08:05", "end": "02:08:08", "text": "but that that's pretty much described."}, {"start": "02:08:06", "end": "02:08:10", "text": "Even if you just look at the series,"}, {"start": "02:08:08", "end": "02:08:11", "text": "you'll know that's what it's about. But"}, {"start": "02:08:10", "end": "02:08:13", "text": "so the multiverse, I think, brings up"}, {"start": "02:08:11", "end": "02:08:16", "text": "this idea that we could run multiple"}, {"start": "02:08:13", "end": "02:08:18", "text": "processes and maybe they're running, you"}, {"start": "02:08:16", "end": "02:08:21", "text": "know, to try to see what the outcomes"}, {"start": "02:08:18", "end": "02:08:24", "text": "are. And maybe the outcomes that are"}, {"start": "02:08:21", "end": "02:08:27", "text": "less than ideal. Um, just like I talked"}, {"start": "02:08:24", "end": "02:08:29", "text": "about with pruning, maybe we prune, we"}, {"start": "02:08:27", "end": "02:08:31", "text": "meaning whoever runs the simulation runs"}, {"start": "02:08:29", "end": "02:08:33", "text": "these different things because you never"}, {"start": "02:08:31", "end": "02:08:35", "text": "run a simulation just once, do you? No"}, {"start": "02:08:33", "end": "02:08:38", "text": ">> simulation of the weather, simulation of"}, {"start": "02:08:35", "end": "02:08:40", "text": "virus, simulation of, you know,"}, {"start": "02:08:38", "end": "02:08:42", "text": "financial or whether an asteroid is"}, {"start": "02:08:40", "end": "02:08:44", "text": "going to to hit us. There's something"}, {"start": "02:08:42", "end": "02:08:45", "text": "called the threebody problem. I'm sure"}, {"start": "02:08:44", "end": "02:08:47", "text": "you've heard of that. Y"}, {"start": "02:08:45", "end": "02:08:48", "text": ">> it's when we have three bodies that are"}, {"start": "02:08:47", "end": "02:08:50", "text": "kind of circling each other. The"}, {"start": "02:08:48", "end": "02:08:51", "text": "question is, will they stay in a stable"}, {"start": "02:08:50", "end": "02:08:53", "text": "orbit"}, {"start": "02:08:51", "end": "02:08:54", "text": ">> or will one day one of them fly off? And"}, {"start": "02:08:53", "end": "02:08:55", "text": "it turns out we don't know the answer to"}, {"start": "02:08:54", "end": "02:08:55", "text": "that,"}, {"start": "02:08:55", "end": "02:08:57", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "02:08:55", "end": "02:09:00", "text": ">> Because there's no shortcut. You have to"}, {"start": "02:08:57", "end": "02:09:03", "text": "just keep running it to see. And there's"}, {"start": "02:09:00", "end": "02:09:04", "text": "a a term that came from a a computer a"}, {"start": "02:09:03", "end": "02:09:05", "text": "physicist turned computer scientist"}, {"start": "02:09:04", "end": "02:09:06", "text": "named Steven"}, {"start": "02:09:05", "end": "02:09:08", "text": ">> Wilfrram"}, {"start": "02:09:06", "end": "02:09:09", "text": ">> called computational irreducibility"}, {"start": "02:09:08", "end": "02:09:11", "text": ">> right"}, {"start": "02:09:09", "end": "02:09:13", "text": ">> and Wilfrram was pioneer in many things."}, {"start": "02:09:11", "end": "02:09:16", "text": "He wrote the Mathematica software but he"}, {"start": "02:09:13", "end": "02:09:17", "text": "also was a pioneer in cellular automa"}, {"start": "02:09:16", "end": "02:09:19", "text": "which for those who don't know they're"}, {"start": "02:09:17", "end": "02:09:21", "text": "like simple rule sets. Y"}, {"start": "02:09:19", "end": "02:09:23", "text": ">> it's like you could have one row of"}, {"start": "02:09:21", "end": "02:09:25", "text": "squares and the squares would light up"}, {"start": "02:09:23", "end": "02:09:27", "text": "or not depending on if the next square"}, {"start": "02:09:25", "end": "02:09:28", "text": "is lit up or not and it'll go dark"}, {"start": "02:09:27", "end": "02:09:32", "text": "following these rules. So these are very"}, {"start": "02:09:28", "end": "02:09:34", "text": "simple rules, a very deterministic"}, {"start": "02:09:32", "end": "02:09:36", "text": "version uh of reality. And then there's"}, {"start": "02:09:34", "end": "02:09:38", "text": "what's called the game of life. Yes."}, {"start": "02:09:36", "end": "02:09:39", "text": "Which is a two-dimensional grid. And if"}, {"start": "02:09:38", "end": "02:09:42", "text": "you watch it,"}, {"start": "02:09:39", "end": "02:09:44", "text": ">> it in and nowadays, you know, we run it"}, {"start": "02:09:42", "end": "02:09:46", "text": "on computers, but when the guy Conway"}, {"start": "02:09:44", "end": "02:09:47", "text": "came up with it, he literally had a grid"}, {"start": "02:09:46", "end": "02:09:49", "text": "sitting at the University of Cambridge"}, {"start": "02:09:47", "end": "02:09:51", "text": "and his mathematical students would like"}, {"start": "02:09:49", "end": "02:09:53", "text": "erase squares and fill in squares. Well,"}, {"start": "02:09:51", "end": "02:09:55", "text": "what would happen is you get these very"}, {"start": "02:09:53", "end": "02:09:57", "text": "complex arrangements. Every now and then"}, {"start": "02:09:55", "end": "02:09:58", "text": "you'd get a stable arrangement. Y"}, {"start": "02:09:57", "end": "02:10:00", "text": ">> which means you know it's going to stay"}, {"start": "02:09:58", "end": "02:10:02", "text": "this way or or it flips back and forth"}, {"start": "02:10:00", "end": "02:10:06", "text": "but they have what they call complex or"}, {"start": "02:10:02", "end": "02:10:08", "text": "chaotic uh results or processes and"}, {"start": "02:10:06", "end": "02:10:09", "text": "those you don't know what's going to"}, {"start": "02:10:08", "end": "02:10:10", "text": "happen. This is the kind of the basis of"}, {"start": "02:10:09", "end": "02:10:12", "text": "complexity theory."}, {"start": "02:10:10", "end": "02:10:13", "text": ">> And the game of life is just quickly the"}, {"start": "02:10:12", "end": "02:10:16", "text": "rules are the"}, {"start": "02:10:13", "end": "02:10:18", "text": ">> rules are if you're if the next square"}, {"start": "02:10:16", "end": "02:10:19", "text": "is lit up and the one next to it is lit"}, {"start": "02:10:18", "end": "02:10:21", "text": "up then you light up, right?"}, {"start": "02:10:19", "end": "02:10:22", "text": ">> And if the maybe the one on top of it,"}, {"start": "02:10:21", "end": "02:10:23", "text": "I'm making up these rules, but these are"}, {"start": "02:10:22", "end": "02:10:25", "text": "the types of rules. Sure. And the one"}, {"start": "02:10:23", "end": "02:10:25", "text": "below it is lit up, then you go dark,"}, {"start": "02:10:25", "end": "02:10:28", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "02:10:25", "end": "02:10:29", "text": ">> And so at each step, every square"}, {"start": "02:10:28", "end": "02:10:32", "text": "follows these rules. So it's a very"}, {"start": "02:10:29", "end": "02:10:34", "text": "simple computer program. Now for complex"}, {"start": "02:10:32", "end": "02:10:35", "text": "and chaotic processes and you would"}, {"start": "02:10:34", "end": "02:10:37", "text": "think we could predict what's going to"}, {"start": "02:10:35", "end": "02:10:39", "text": "happen but it depends on the initial"}, {"start": "02:10:37", "end": "02:10:41", "text": "conditions and this is what led to the"}, {"start": "02:10:39", "end": "02:10:43", "text": "whole uh science of chaos theory."}, {"start": "02:10:41", "end": "02:10:44", "text": ">> Sure. Loren and all that."}, {"start": "02:10:43", "end": "02:10:47", "text": ">> Yeah. Loren and also you know people"}, {"start": "02:10:44", "end": "02:10:49", "text": "remember Jurassic Park with Ian Malcolm"}, {"start": "02:10:47", "end": "02:10:51", "text": "who's a kayotician. That's right. The"}, {"start": "02:10:49", "end": "02:10:53", "text": "the point point was with the butterfly"}, {"start": "02:10:51", "end": "02:10:55", "text": "effect where you know they say the"}, {"start": "02:10:53", "end": "02:10:56", "text": "butterfly flaps its wings in let's say"}, {"start": "02:10:55", "end": "02:11:00", "text": "Hong Kong and the stock market crashes"}, {"start": "02:10:56", "end": "02:11:01", "text": "in in in London. uh there's a whole"}, {"start": "02:11:00", "end": "02:11:03", "text": "chain of events that has to happen along"}, {"start": "02:11:01", "end": "02:11:05", "text": "the way. And so what computational"}, {"start": "02:11:03", "end": "02:11:07", "text": "irreducibility means is you don't know"}, {"start": "02:11:05", "end": "02:11:11", "text": "what's going to happen at step 1 million"}, {"start": "02:11:07", "end": "02:11:12", "text": "until step 99999"}, {"start": "02:11:11", "end": "02:11:14", "text": "999, you know, and then you don't know"}, {"start": "02:11:12", "end": "02:11:18", "text": "what's going to happen at that step"}, {"start": "02:11:14", "end": "02:11:19", "text": "until you go to 998 and to 997 and all"}, {"start": "02:11:18", "end": "02:11:22", "text": "the way back. So you have to run the"}, {"start": "02:11:19", "end": "02:11:24", "text": "computer program. And so even for a"}, {"start": "02:11:22", "end": "02:11:25", "text": "deterministic process that has no free"}, {"start": "02:11:24", "end": "02:11:26", "text": "will,"}, {"start": "02:11:25", "end": "02:11:29", "text": ">> okay, you don't know what's going to"}, {"start": "02:11:26", "end": "02:11:31", "text": "happen for chaotic and complex"}, {"start": "02:11:29", "end": "02:11:34", "text": "processes. And I believe our simulation"}, {"start": "02:11:31", "end": "02:11:36", "text": "would qualify as a complex or chaotic"}, {"start": "02:11:34", "end": "02:11:40", "text": "process. And so Philip K. Dick believed"}, {"start": "02:11:36", "end": "02:11:42", "text": "that the timelines were altered. And I"}, {"start": "02:11:40", "end": "02:11:45", "text": "asked his wife, well, did he tell you"}, {"start": "02:11:42", "end": "02:11:47", "text": "any other examples of this? And she"}, {"start": "02:11:45", "end": "02:11:50", "text": "said, yeah. She goes, they told him. And"}, {"start": "02:11:47", "end": "02:11:52", "text": "I said, well, what do you mean they? you"}, {"start": "02:11:50", "end": "02:11:53", "text": "know, did you see them? She goes, I"}, {"start": "02:11:52", "end": "02:11:54", "text": "looked like he was talking to somebody,"}, {"start": "02:11:53", "end": "02:11:55", "text": "but it looked like a little blur to me"}, {"start": "02:11:54", "end": "02:11:57", "text": "or something"}, {"start": "02:11:55", "end": "02:11:58", "text": ">> like the they that runs this"}, {"start": "02:11:57", "end": "02:12:00", "text": ">> that runs the simulator. People outside"}, {"start": "02:11:58", "end": "02:12:02", "text": "it looked like did they look like gray"}, {"start": "02:12:00", "end": "02:12:03", "text": "aliens? Did they look like she's like I"}, {"start": "02:12:02", "end": "02:12:05", "text": "couldn't really tell, you know, because"}, {"start": "02:12:03", "end": "02:12:07", "text": "only Phil could see them, but she could"}, {"start": "02:12:05", "end": "02:12:09", "text": "tell there was something weird that he"}, {"start": "02:12:07", "end": "02:12:12", "text": "was talking to like an entity."}, {"start": "02:12:09", "end": "02:12:15", "text": ">> And she said they told him that they"}, {"start": "02:12:12", "end": "02:12:16", "text": "prevented the assassination of JFK in"}, {"start": "02:12:15", "end": "02:12:19", "text": "Dallas,"}, {"start": "02:12:16", "end": "02:12:20", "text": ">> but then he was assassinated in Orlando."}, {"start": "02:12:19", "end": "02:12:22", "text": "Wow."}, {"start": "02:12:20", "end": "02:12:23", "text": ">> And then they prevented it in Orlando"}, {"start": "02:12:22", "end": "02:12:25", "text": "and then he was assassinated somewhere"}, {"start": "02:12:23", "end": "02:12:28", "text": "else and every time they changed it, it"}, {"start": "02:12:25", "end": "02:12:29", "text": "resulted in a worse outcome like a"}, {"start": "02:12:28", "end": "02:12:30", "text": "nuclear war or he just ended up dying"}, {"start": "02:12:29", "end": "02:12:32", "text": "somewhere else."}, {"start": "02:12:30", "end": "02:12:34", "text": ">> So he had to be assassinated."}, {"start": "02:12:32", "end": "02:12:37", "text": ">> Yeah. It's kind of like if you've ever"}, {"start": "02:12:34", "end": "02:12:41", "text": "read that book by Stephen King or uh uh"}, {"start": "02:12:37", "end": "02:12:42", "text": "you know the the the miniseries 112263"}, {"start": "02:12:41", "end": "02:12:44", "text": "where goes back in time"}, {"start": "02:12:42", "end": "02:12:45", "text": ">> and tries to prevent the assassination."}, {"start": "02:12:44", "end": "02:12:47", "text": "I won't give it away, but you have to"}, {"start": "02:12:45", "end": "02:12:49", "text": "read it to see like how the past doesn't"}, {"start": "02:12:47", "end": "02:12:51", "text": "necessarily want to be changed. But for"}, {"start": "02:12:49", "end": "02:12:53", "text": "for me, that's like it's very similar to"}, {"start": "02:12:51", "end": "02:12:55", "text": "what we would do if we were running a"}, {"start": "02:12:53", "end": "02:12:56", "text": "simulation. We would run it and we'd get"}, {"start": "02:12:55", "end": "02:12:59", "text": "to a point and say, \"Okay, that's that's"}, {"start": "02:12:56", "end": "02:13:00", "text": "enough on this time. Now, let's run the"}, {"start": "02:12:59", "end": "02:13:03", "text": "next one. Now, let's run the next one.\""}, {"start": "02:13:00", "end": "02:13:05", "text": "And so it provides simulation theory"}, {"start": "02:13:03", "end": "02:13:07", "text": "provides a bridge between the Copenhagen"}, {"start": "02:13:05", "end": "02:13:08", "text": "interpretation uh the collapse of the"}, {"start": "02:13:07", "end": "02:13:11", "text": "probability wave because there's an"}, {"start": "02:13:08", "end": "02:13:12", "text": "observer who's playing the game and the"}, {"start": "02:13:11", "end": "02:13:14", "text": "multiverse idea because it doesn't"}, {"start": "02:13:12", "end": "02:13:17", "text": "require an infinite multiverse. So it's"}, {"start": "02:13:14", "end": "02:13:19", "text": "like at people often ask me what's the"}, {"start": "02:13:17", "end": "02:13:20", "text": "purpose of the simulation this is"}, {"start": "02:13:19", "end": "02:13:22", "text": ">> well sure who's running it and why"}, {"start": "02:13:20", "end": "02:13:24", "text": ">> who's running it and why. And in in the"}, {"start": "02:13:22", "end": "02:13:25", "text": "new edition of simulation hypothesis I"}, {"start": "02:13:24", "end": "02:13:27", "text": "have a"}, {"start": "02:13:25", "end": "02:13:29", "text": ">> uh there's about a hundred new pages for"}, {"start": "02:13:27", "end": "02:13:30", "text": "those who read the over"}, {"start": "02:13:29", "end": "02:13:32", "text": "big update because all the AI stuff"}, {"start": "02:13:30", "end": "02:13:34", "text": "that's right happened uh all the brain"}, {"start": "02:13:32", "end": "02:13:35", "text": "computer interfaces the technology side"}, {"start": "02:13:34", "end": "02:13:38", "text": "and then I went deeper on the religion"}, {"start": "02:13:35", "end": "02:13:39", "text": "but but there's about 20 pages of FAQs"}, {"start": "02:13:38", "end": "02:13:41", "text": "which are the most commonly asked"}, {"start": "02:13:39", "end": "02:13:42", "text": "questions over since the 20th"}, {"start": "02:13:41", "end": "02:13:44", "text": "anniversary I was I ended up writing"}, {"start": "02:13:42", "end": "02:13:47", "text": "this on the 25th anniversary of the"}, {"start": "02:13:44", "end": "02:13:48", "text": "matrix u and one of those questions were"}, {"start": "02:13:47", "end": "02:13:51", "text": "you know what's the purpose of the"}, {"start": "02:13:48", "end": "02:13:54", "text": "simulation who's running the simulation"}, {"start": "02:13:51", "end": "02:13:55", "text": "I say, \"Look, I let me ask you a couple"}, {"start": "02:13:54", "end": "02:13:57", "text": "questions back. One, why do we run"}, {"start": "02:13:55", "end": "02:14:00", "text": "simulations? And two, why do we play"}, {"start": "02:13:57", "end": "02:14:02", "text": "video games?\" Uh, and I believe the"}, {"start": "02:14:00", "end": "02:14:05", "text": "answer to those two questions gives us"}, {"start": "02:14:02", "end": "02:14:07", "text": "an answer for why we might be in a video"}, {"start": "02:14:05", "end": "02:14:11", "text": "game in a video game type simulation, a"}, {"start": "02:14:07", "end": "02:14:13", "text": "personal purpose and a bigger societal"}, {"start": "02:14:11", "end": "02:14:16", "text": "purpose. And the reason we run"}, {"start": "02:14:13", "end": "02:14:19", "text": "simulations is to see what is the likely"}, {"start": "02:14:16", "end": "02:14:21", "text": "outcome under this set of variables. And"}, {"start": "02:14:19", "end": "02:14:22", "text": "then we would change the variables. And"}, {"start": "02:14:21", "end": "02:14:24", "text": "we also want to know what is the the"}, {"start": "02:14:22", "end": "02:14:26", "text": "most favorable outcome, right? We're"}, {"start": "02:14:24", "end": "02:14:28", "text": "like, hey, if we do this to the"}, {"start": "02:14:26", "end": "02:14:29", "text": "asteroid, what will happen? Will it miss"}, {"start": "02:14:28", "end": "02:14:30", "text": "Earth or will it hit the moon? And"}, {"start": "02:14:29", "end": "02:14:31", "text": "that's just as bad,"}, {"start": "02:14:30", "end": "02:14:33", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "02:14:31", "end": "02:14:34", "text": ">> As it hitting Earth because if the moon"}, {"start": "02:14:33", "end": "02:14:36", "text": "gets really smashed, then you know,"}, {"start": "02:14:34", "end": "02:14:38", "text": "we'll be screwed or whatever the"}, {"start": "02:14:36", "end": "02:14:40", "text": "simulation is. So, it's to find the most"}, {"start": "02:14:38", "end": "02:14:42", "text": "likely outcome, the most favorable, and"}, {"start": "02:14:40", "end": "02:14:44", "text": "maybe to avoid the least favorable"}, {"start": "02:14:42", "end": "02:14:45", "text": "outcome. And you have to do that, you"}, {"start": "02:14:44", "end": "02:14:47", "text": "have to run it multiple times. But at"}, {"start": "02:14:45", "end": "02:14:48", "text": "the personal level, why do we play video"}, {"start": "02:14:47", "end": "02:14:50", "text": "games? Entertainment."}, {"start": "02:14:48", "end": "02:14:52", "text": ">> Entertainment. We want to have fun. So,"}, {"start": "02:14:50", "end": "02:14:54", "text": "we want to experience certain things."}, {"start": "02:14:52", "end": "02:14:55", "text": "Like I can't, as much as you know, I"}, {"start": "02:14:54", "end": "02:14:57", "text": "used to read Lord of the Rings, you"}, {"start": "02:14:55", "end": "02:14:59", "text": "know, when I was sure teenager still now"}, {"start": "02:14:57", "end": "02:15:01", "text": "I just watch the movies, but I used to"}, {"start": "02:14:59", "end": "02:15:03", "text": "read it every so often. I can't jump on"}, {"start": "02:15:01", "end": "02:15:06", "text": "a dragon and shoot, you know, arrows at"}, {"start": "02:15:03", "end": "02:15:08", "text": "orcs in this particular reality, but I"}, {"start": "02:15:06", "end": "02:15:11", "text": "can do it inside a virtual world. And"}, {"start": "02:15:08", "end": "02:15:13", "text": "it's a safe a safe quote unquote way to"}, {"start": "02:15:11", "end": "02:15:15", "text": "do it. And to have bad experiences, too."}, {"start": "02:15:13", "end": "02:15:18", "text": "Like I I I don't believe the purpose of"}, {"start": "02:15:15", "end": "02:15:19", "text": "the simulation is Grand Theft Auto,"}, {"start": "02:15:18", "end": "02:15:19", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "02:15:19", "end": "02:15:22", "text": ">> Probably not."}, {"start": "02:15:19", "end": "02:15:24", "text": ">> Yeah. So, so anyway, that that ties to"}, {"start": "02:15:22", "end": "02:15:26", "text": "to to you know, some of these these"}, {"start": "02:15:24", "end": "02:15:28", "text": "bigger questions around why would there"}, {"start": "02:15:26", "end": "02:15:30", "text": "be a simulated universe in the first"}, {"start": "02:15:28", "end": "02:15:30", "text": "place and why would there be a"}, {"start": "02:15:30", "end": "02:15:32", "text": "multiverse?"}, {"start": "02:15:30", "end": "02:15:35", "text": ">> But that's projecting our sense of"}, {"start": "02:15:32", "end": "02:15:37", "text": "morality and intent onto some greater"}, {"start": "02:15:35", "end": "02:15:39", "text": "consciousness. So, what do what do you"}, {"start": "02:15:37", "end": "02:15:41", "text": "think their endgame is? Are they looking"}, {"start": "02:15:39", "end": "02:15:42", "text": "out for us? Because there's a lot of"}, {"start": "02:15:41", "end": "02:15:45", "text": "suffering. There's a lot of suffering in"}, {"start": "02:15:42", "end": "02:15:48", "text": "this world and I I often say people say"}, {"start": "02:15:45", "end": "02:15:50", "text": "to me, well, I can't be in a simulation"}, {"start": "02:15:48", "end": "02:15:52", "text": "because if I was, I would be a"}, {"start": "02:15:50", "end": "02:15:53", "text": "billionaire and I would be an actor."}, {"start": "02:15:52", "end": "02:15:56", "text": ">> My kid wouldn't have got cancer."}, {"start": "02:15:53", "end": "02:15:58", "text": ">> My kid wouldn't have got cancer. You"}, {"start": "02:15:56", "end": "02:15:58", "text": "know, Holocaust, all these things,"}, {"start": "02:15:58", "end": "02:16:01", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "02:15:58", "end": "02:16:03", "text": ">> But it depends on the nature of the game"}, {"start": "02:16:01", "end": "02:16:06", "text": "and what we're trying to experience."}, {"start": "02:16:03", "end": "02:16:08", "text": "Like when we run a simulation, we the"}, {"start": "02:16:06", "end": "02:16:10", "text": "better they get, we're going to run uh"}, {"start": "02:16:08", "end": "02:16:12", "text": "you know very bad scenarios through the"}, {"start": "02:16:10", "end": "02:16:13", "text": "simulation. What happens if the virus"}, {"start": "02:16:12", "end": "02:16:15", "text": "spreads to everybody? Right."}, {"start": "02:16:13", "end": "02:16:17", "text": ">> Right. And we want it to be as realistic"}, {"start": "02:16:15", "end": "02:16:19", "text": "as possible eventually. Now, this gets"}, {"start": "02:16:17", "end": "02:16:20", "text": "back to the NPC versus RPG versions."}, {"start": "02:16:19", "end": "02:16:22", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "02:16:20", "end": "02:16:24", "text": ">> Which which we started talking about."}, {"start": "02:16:22", "end": "02:16:26", "text": "And I think it ties to this bigger"}, {"start": "02:16:24", "end": "02:16:27", "text": "question because in an NPC version, of"}, {"start": "02:16:26", "end": "02:16:29", "text": "course, they're going to have suffering"}, {"start": "02:16:27", "end": "02:16:32", "text": "on us because that's why you build"}, {"start": "02:16:29", "end": "02:16:33", "text": "simulations and that's why you run NPCs."}, {"start": "02:16:32", "end": "02:16:35", "text": "like like that doesn't imply that we"}, {"start": "02:16:33", "end": "02:16:37", "text": "couldn't be in a simulation just because"}, {"start": "02:16:35", "end": "02:16:39", "text": "there now in the RPG version it gets"}, {"start": "02:16:37", "end": "02:16:45", "text": "even more interesting in my opinion"}, {"start": "02:16:39", "end": "02:16:49", "text": "because there people are choosing roles"}, {"start": "02:16:45", "end": "02:16:52", "text": "that might have bad experiences bad"}, {"start": "02:16:49", "end": "02:16:54", "text": "quote unquote u or suffering if you were"}, {"start": "02:16:52", "end": "02:16:57", "text": ">> now you know I used to play Dungeons and"}, {"start": "02:16:54", "end": "02:16:58", "text": "Dragons and right back before now it's"}, {"start": "02:16:57", "end": "02:16:59", "text": "popular again because of Stranger Things"}, {"start": "02:16:58", "end": "02:17:00", "text": ">> right"}, {"start": "02:16:59", "end": "02:17:02", "text": ">> but back in the day when we used to play"}, {"start": "02:17:00", "end": "02:17:03", "text": "it back in the 80s you know we with"}, {"start": "02:17:02", "end": "02:17:05", "text": "pencil and paper and you would choose"}, {"start": "02:17:03", "end": "02:17:07", "text": "your character. Yeah. You would choose"}, {"start": "02:17:05", "end": "02:17:10", "text": "the race. You would say it's a elf,"}, {"start": "02:17:07", "end": "02:17:12", "text": ">> dwarf or human, let's say. And then you"}, {"start": "02:17:10", "end": "02:17:14", "text": "would choose the general profession,"}, {"start": "02:17:12", "end": "02:17:16", "text": "thief, cleric, right?"}, {"start": "02:17:14", "end": "02:17:18", "text": ">> Warrior, you know, it's not."}, {"start": "02:17:16", "end": "02:17:19", "text": ">> Paladin. Oh, yeah. That's right. And and"}, {"start": "02:17:18", "end": "02:17:21", "text": "it's not that,"}, {"start": "02:17:19", "end": "02:17:22", "text": ">> you know, you couldn't, you know, the"}, {"start": "02:17:21", "end": "02:17:24", "text": "the wizard couldn't also be a good"}, {"start": "02:17:22", "end": "02:17:26", "text": "fighter. It's just that that's not their"}, {"start": "02:17:24", "end": "02:17:29", "text": "skill set. So you're choosing almost"}, {"start": "02:17:26", "end": "02:17:31", "text": "like aptitudes in a sense and you're"}, {"start": "02:17:29", "end": "02:17:33", "text": "choosing a storyline or a profession in."}, {"start": "02:17:31", "end": "02:17:34", "text": "And then you choose the campaign that"}, {"start": "02:17:33", "end": "02:17:36", "text": "you're going to be on,"}, {"start": "02:17:34", "end": "02:17:38", "text": ">> but you also choose the morality whether"}, {"start": "02:17:36", "end": "02:17:38", "text": "evil, good, chaotic, evil, all that"}, {"start": "02:17:38", "end": "02:17:40", "text": "stuff."}, {"start": "02:17:38", "end": "02:17:41", "text": ">> That's right. Yeah. There's all of this"}, {"start": "02:17:40", "end": "02:17:44", "text": "stuff that you're choosing. And some of"}, {"start": "02:17:41", "end": "02:17:45", "text": "those roles are not good roles."}, {"start": "02:17:44", "end": "02:17:47", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "02:17:45", "end": "02:17:49", "text": ">> Yeah. But that to me gets back to this"}, {"start": "02:17:47", "end": "02:17:52", "text": "idea whether you can you can treat the"}, {"start": "02:17:49", "end": "02:17:54", "text": "simulation theory in one of two ways."}, {"start": "02:17:52", "end": "02:17:56", "text": "And again, it's an access just like NPC"}, {"start": "02:17:54", "end": "02:17:58", "text": "and RPG is an access because you can"}, {"start": "02:17:56", "end": "02:18:00", "text": "have both NPCs"}, {"start": "02:17:58", "end": "02:18:03", "text": ">> and RPGs in the same game. It doesn't"}, {"start": "02:18:00", "end": "02:18:06", "text": "have to be 100% of one or 100% of the"}, {"start": "02:18:03", "end": "02:18:08", "text": "other. In fact, most games have both."}, {"start": "02:18:06", "end": "02:18:09", "text": ">> Uh, and I'm I'm assuming the audience"}, {"start": "02:18:08", "end": "02:18:11", "text": "might be familiar with that term, but if"}, {"start": "02:18:09", "end": "02:18:14", "text": "they're they're not NPC stands for"}, {"start": "02:18:11", "end": "02:18:16", "text": "non-player character or non-playable"}, {"start": "02:18:14", "end": "02:18:17", "text": "character, and it actually comes from"}, {"start": "02:18:16", "end": "02:18:19", "text": "Dungeons and Dragons. Sure. The tabletop"}, {"start": "02:18:17", "end": "02:18:21", "text": "game. Yeah. Because, you know, you had"}, {"start": "02:18:19", "end": "02:18:23", "text": "to interact with a bartender at the inn."}, {"start": "02:18:21", "end": "02:18:25", "text": "you had to interact with the guy at the"}, {"start": "02:18:23", "end": "02:18:27", "text": "armory who's selling you, you know, the"}, {"start": "02:18:25", "end": "02:18:30", "text": "plus five crossbow or one of these"}, {"start": "02:18:27", "end": "02:18:31", "text": "other, you know, items. Uh, and there's"}, {"start": "02:18:30", "end": "02:18:32", "text": "going to be enemies there that you have"}, {"start": "02:18:31", "end": "02:18:33", "text": "to fight as well."}, {"start": "02:18:32", "end": "02:18:34", "text": ">> Well, which are we? Were we the NPCs or"}, {"start": "02:18:33", "end": "02:18:36", "text": "we the RPGs?"}, {"start": "02:18:34", "end": "02:18:39", "text": ">> Well, that's that's an interesting"}, {"start": "02:18:36", "end": "02:18:42", "text": "question. Uh, and I like to say that"}, {"start": "02:18:39", "end": "02:18:44", "text": "we're we may be both because there's"}, {"start": "02:18:42", "end": "02:18:49", "text": "something in between. Okay, which is"}, {"start": "02:18:44", "end": "02:18:51", "text": "that we choose roles and we are playing"}, {"start": "02:18:49", "end": "02:18:54", "text": "the roles but we also go into NPC mode"}, {"start": "02:18:51", "end": "02:18:56", "text": "for other people in that we are playing"}, {"start": "02:18:54", "end": "02:18:57", "text": "certain role like there are people who"}, {"start": "02:18:56", "end": "02:19:00", "text": "may have had a role in your life that's"}, {"start": "02:18:57", "end": "02:19:02", "text": "a relatively small role or a major role"}, {"start": "02:19:00", "end": "02:19:03", "text": "uh but and one woman came to me once and"}, {"start": "02:19:02", "end": "02:19:04", "text": "said you know I think my husband is an"}, {"start": "02:19:03", "end": "02:19:05", "text": "NPC"}, {"start": "02:19:04", "end": "02:19:07", "text": ">> oh no"}, {"start": "02:19:05", "end": "02:19:09", "text": ">> I said that's not a healthy way to think"}, {"start": "02:19:07", "end": "02:19:11", "text": "about in fact it's better to think about"}, {"start": "02:19:09", "end": "02:19:13", "text": "everyone as a source player"}, {"start": "02:19:11", "end": "02:19:16", "text": ">> with their own storyline their own"}, {"start": "02:19:13", "end": "02:19:19", "text": "difficulties and their own quests, but"}, {"start": "02:19:16", "end": "02:19:20", "text": "they're going to play roles for us and"}, {"start": "02:19:19", "end": "02:19:22", "text": "which could be they're going into NPC"}, {"start": "02:19:20", "end": "02:19:26", "text": "mode because that is a role that we have"}, {"start": "02:19:22", "end": "02:19:29", "text": "agreed to kind of like in a film. Uh now"}, {"start": "02:19:26", "end": "02:19:31", "text": "I I like to say that the other way to"}, {"start": "02:19:29", "end": "02:19:34", "text": "think about the simulation hypothesis is"}, {"start": "02:19:31", "end": "02:19:36", "text": "a metaphor for reality. So the one way"}, {"start": "02:19:34", "end": "02:19:38", "text": "is it's literally code running on a"}, {"start": "02:19:36", "end": "02:19:40", "text": "machine. And if we really get into it, I"}, {"start": "02:19:38", "end": "02:19:42", "text": "think it's closer to a quantum computing"}, {"start": "02:19:40", "end": "02:19:44", "text": "device uh than a regular digital"}, {"start": "02:19:42", "end": "02:19:46", "text": "computing device. But"}, {"start": "02:19:44", "end": "02:19:49", "text": ">> the other way is to say the video game"}, {"start": "02:19:46", "end": "02:19:52", "text": "is a metaphor for this idea that we are"}, {"start": "02:19:49", "end": "02:19:54", "text": "coming into this fake or hoaxed reality."}, {"start": "02:19:52", "end": "02:19:56", "text": ">> Uh and that we are playing a role and we"}, {"start": "02:19:54", "end": "02:19:58", "text": "have agreed to forget that we're playing"}, {"start": "02:19:56", "end": "02:20:00", "text": "that role. Um and"}, {"start": "02:19:58", "end": "02:20:02", "text": ">> so there's a consciousness out there"}, {"start": "02:20:00", "end": "02:20:03", "text": "that that we're not even aware of that's"}, {"start": "02:20:02", "end": "02:20:05", "text": "driving this reality."}, {"start": "02:20:03", "end": "02:20:06", "text": ">> Yeah. So it could be that we're a"}, {"start": "02:20:05", "end": "02:20:11", "text": "player. Wow."}, {"start": "02:20:06", "end": "02:20:14", "text": ">> And we So AJ, Riz, Dino, Joe, all these"}, {"start": "02:20:11", "end": "02:20:16", "text": "guys, we are the avatars of our"}, {"start": "02:20:14", "end": "02:20:18", "text": "consciousness which is which is sitting"}, {"start": "02:20:16", "end": "02:20:21", "text": "outside of the simulation and playing"}, {"start": "02:20:18", "end": "02:20:22", "text": "the game. Now in the Matrix, you know,"}, {"start": "02:20:21", "end": "02:20:25", "text": "Neo, Morpheus, and Trinity existed"}, {"start": "02:20:22", "end": "02:20:27", "text": "outside of the Matrix. Uh, and of course"}, {"start": "02:20:25", "end": "02:20:28", "text": "they look the same because if you're"}, {"start": "02:20:27", "end": "02:20:31", "text": "going to hire Ka Reeves in a movie,"}, {"start": "02:20:28", "end": "02:20:32", "text": "sure, you want him to be, you know, the"}, {"start": "02:20:31", "end": "02:20:34", "text": "same character. But in a game when you"}, {"start": "02:20:32", "end": "02:20:35", "text": "choose your avatar, you don't have to"}, {"start": "02:20:34", "end": "02:20:38", "text": "look like that. It doesn't have to be"}, {"start": "02:20:35", "end": "02:20:40", "text": "exact. You would choose the role that"}, {"start": "02:20:38", "end": "02:20:41", "text": "the character has. And outside you could"}, {"start": "02:20:40", "end": "02:20:43", "text": "be something else entirely. You could be"}, {"start": "02:20:41", "end": "02:20:43", "text": ">> This feels like reincarnation a little"}, {"start": "02:20:43", "end": "02:20:44", "text": "bit."}, {"start": "02:20:43", "end": "02:20:45", "text": ">> It does. So"}, {"start": "02:20:44", "end": "02:20:47", "text": ">> you respawn."}, {"start": "02:20:45", "end": "02:20:49", "text": ">> You respawn as a new as a new character,"}, {"start": "02:20:47", "end": "02:20:50", "text": "but you may have some of the skills that"}, {"start": "02:20:49", "end": "02:20:51", "text": "you learned."}, {"start": "02:20:50", "end": "02:20:54", "text": ">> There's evidence of that."}, {"start": "02:20:51", "end": "02:20:56", "text": ">> I'm playing right. There's like the work"}, {"start": "02:20:54", "end": "02:20:59", "text": "of Ian Stevenson in particular"}, {"start": "02:20:56", "end": "02:21:01", "text": ">> uh with the children who you know have"}, {"start": "02:20:59", "end": "02:21:03", "text": "marks where they claim you know they"}, {"start": "02:21:01", "end": "02:21:06", "text": "were killed violently uh there's people"}, {"start": "02:21:03", "end": "02:21:09", "text": "who remember languages"}, {"start": "02:21:06", "end": "02:21:09", "text": ">> yep life between lives by Michael Newton"}, {"start": "02:21:09", "end": "02:21:11", "text": "talks about"}, {"start": "02:21:09", "end": "02:21:14", "text": ">> yes so I I spent a lot of time looking"}, {"start": "02:21:11", "end": "02:21:16", "text": "at life between lives and I you know"}, {"start": "02:21:14", "end": "02:21:18", "text": "when he talks about the in between time"}, {"start": "02:21:16", "end": "02:21:21", "text": "so what he did was he hypnotized people"}, {"start": "02:21:18", "end": "02:21:23", "text": "and and also Dolores uh"}, {"start": "02:21:21", "end": "02:21:25", "text": ">> Cannon did the same thing I was about to"}, {"start": "02:21:23", "end": "02:21:28", "text": "Dolores Claymore. That's I mentioned"}, {"start": "02:21:25", "end": "02:21:30", "text": "Stephen King earlier. It's probably why"}, {"start": "02:21:28", "end": "02:21:33", "text": "uh but there's a period just before you"}, {"start": "02:21:30", "end": "02:21:36", "text": "go into the life which first there's"}, {"start": "02:21:33", "end": "02:21:38", "text": "life selection and they lay out here's"}, {"start": "02:21:36", "end": "02:21:40", "text": "the possible trajectories that you might"}, {"start": "02:21:38", "end": "02:21:42", "text": "take in your life and here's the major"}, {"start": "02:21:40", "end": "02:21:45", "text": "decision points you might make. Now"}, {"start": "02:21:42", "end": "02:21:47", "text": "you're still free to choose to go this"}, {"start": "02:21:45", "end": "02:21:49", "text": "way, you go live in California or you"}, {"start": "02:21:47", "end": "02:21:51", "text": "live there. But if you go there, how are"}, {"start": "02:21:49", "end": "02:21:52", "text": "you going to meet this other charact"}, {"start": "02:21:51", "end": "02:21:53", "text": "player who's going to be your wife or"}, {"start": "02:21:52", "end": "02:21:56", "text": "your husband?"}, {"start": "02:21:53", "end": "02:21:58", "text": ">> Uh, and but there's different challenges"}, {"start": "02:21:56", "end": "02:22:00", "text": "along and these are the quests or"}, {"start": "02:21:58", "end": "02:22:00", "text": "challenges that you're going to deal"}, {"start": "02:22:00", "end": "02:22:02", "text": "with in this life."}, {"start": "02:22:00", "end": "02:22:03", "text": ">> Yes, that's very interesting."}, {"start": "02:22:02", "end": "02:22:06", "text": ">> So, if you think of games and how"}, {"start": "02:22:03", "end": "02:22:08", "text": "they're built today, you have difficulty"}, {"start": "02:22:06", "end": "02:22:09", "text": "levels of quests. We have like a quest"}, {"start": "02:22:08", "end": "02:22:11", "text": "tree typically"}, {"start": "02:22:09", "end": "02:22:12", "text": ">> where you start off with simple quests"}, {"start": "02:22:11", "end": "02:22:14", "text": "and then you unlock the more difficult"}, {"start": "02:22:12", "end": "02:22:17", "text": "quests. That's very interesting because"}, {"start": "02:22:14", "end": "02:22:19", "text": "Michael Newton talks about and many"}, {"start": "02:22:17", "end": "02:22:21", "text": "researchers about soul groups that"}, {"start": "02:22:19", "end": "02:22:22", "text": "always sort of reincarnate together and"}, {"start": "02:22:21", "end": "02:22:24", "text": "that makes me think it's just a bunch of"}, {"start": "02:22:22", "end": "02:22:26", "text": "nerds around a table saying, \"All right,"}, {"start": "02:22:24", "end": "02:22:28", "text": "let's play again. Reset the table. I'm"}, {"start": "02:22:26", "end": "02:22:29", "text": "going to do this. You do that and we'll"}, {"start": "02:22:28", "end": "02:22:30", "text": "start rolling dice.\""}, {"start": "02:22:29", "end": "02:22:34", "text": ">> Exactly. Or like, \"Hey, we're all going"}, {"start": "02:22:30", "end": "02:22:36", "text": "to meet on Tuesday at this castle to"}, {"start": "02:22:34", "end": "02:22:39", "text": "have a raid.\" Right. And Michael Newton"}, {"start": "02:22:36", "end": "02:22:41", "text": "even talks about these little clues that"}, {"start": "02:22:39", "end": "02:22:43", "text": "you're gonna I mean, I call them clues."}, {"start": "02:22:41", "end": "02:22:44", "text": "uh you he called I forget what he called"}, {"start": "02:22:43", "end": "02:22:46", "text": "them exactly but they were like signs"}, {"start": "02:22:44", "end": "02:22:48", "text": "that oh when you meet this person you're"}, {"start": "02:22:46", "end": "02:22:51", "text": "going to recognize them because you know"}, {"start": "02:22:48", "end": "02:22:53", "text": "she's going to be on a red bike or she's"}, {"start": "02:22:51", "end": "02:22:54", "text": "going to have an earring and you just"}, {"start": "02:22:53", "end": "02:22:56", "text": "can't stop looking away from that"}, {"start": "02:22:54", "end": "02:22:58", "text": "earring right have you ever had that"}, {"start": "02:22:56", "end": "02:23:00", "text": "experience of course deja vu or you know"}, {"start": "02:22:58", "end": "02:23:02", "text": "where does it come from is it because we"}, {"start": "02:23:00", "end": "02:23:05", "text": "made an agreement to meet that person at"}, {"start": "02:23:02", "end": "02:23:08", "text": "this point in time now that helps us to"}, {"start": "02:23:05", "end": "02:23:10", "text": "reframe the idea of suffering as well"}, {"start": "02:23:08", "end": "02:23:12", "text": "because another metaphor that was used"}, {"start": "02:23:10", "end": "02:23:15", "text": "by spiritual in spiritual traditions."}, {"start": "02:23:12", "end": "02:23:17", "text": "So, uh in the Hindu traditions, they"}, {"start": "02:23:15", "end": "02:23:21", "text": "talk about the Leela, the grand play of"}, {"start": "02:23:17", "end": "02:23:22", "text": "the gods and Maya, which is an illusion."}, {"start": "02:23:21", "end": "02:23:23", "text": "The world is an illusion,"}, {"start": "02:23:22", "end": "02:23:25", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "02:23:23", "end": "02:23:27", "text": ">> It's a hoax. And the Buddha talks about"}, {"start": "02:23:25", "end": "02:23:29", "text": "the world is a dream. I mean, Buddha"}, {"start": "02:23:27", "end": "02:23:31", "text": "literally means wake up, woken up, like"}, {"start": "02:23:29", "end": "02:23:32", "text": "I have awoken. Like a woman said, \"What"}, {"start": "02:23:31", "end": "02:23:34", "text": "are you?\" And he said, \"I am both.\" And"}, {"start": "02:23:32", "end": "02:23:35", "text": "what did that mean? It meant he was"}, {"start": "02:23:34", "end": "02:23:38", "text": "awake. Which meant the rest of us were"}, {"start": "02:23:35", "end": "02:23:41", "text": "asleep and dreaming. Um and you know"}, {"start": "02:23:38", "end": "02:23:42", "text": "Shakespeare had his metaphor of the"}, {"start": "02:23:41", "end": "02:23:44", "text": "world's a stage stage right"}, {"start": "02:23:42", "end": "02:23:46", "text": ">> uh so Swami Yogananda who was one of the"}, {"start": "02:23:44", "end": "02:23:48", "text": "first Hindu swamies to come and live in"}, {"start": "02:23:46", "end": "02:23:49", "text": "the US he wrote autobiography of the"}, {"start": "02:23:48", "end": "02:23:50", "text": "yogi"}, {"start": "02:23:49", "end": "02:23:52", "text": ">> which was passed around during the"}, {"start": "02:23:50", "end": "02:23:54", "text": "hippie generation and it was Steve"}, {"start": "02:23:52", "end": "02:23:56", "text": "Jobs's favorite book right"}, {"start": "02:23:54", "end": "02:23:58", "text": ">> so much so that at the end you know"}, {"start": "02:23:56", "end": "02:24:00", "text": "after his death at his memorial service"}, {"start": "02:23:58", "end": "02:24:02", "text": "at Stanford everyone got a little brown"}, {"start": "02:24:00", "end": "02:24:04", "text": "box and they opened it up and there was"}, {"start": "02:24:02", "end": "02:24:06", "text": "a copy of autobiography yogi in there."}, {"start": "02:24:04", "end": "02:24:08", "text": "Uh so it really introduced a lot of"}, {"start": "02:24:06", "end": "02:24:11", "text": "westerners to these eastern ideas. Now"}, {"start": "02:24:08", "end": "02:24:13", "text": "yoga had a challenge. It was 1920s."}, {"start": "02:24:11", "end": "02:24:14", "text": "There's this brown guy with long hair."}, {"start": "02:24:13", "end": "02:24:18", "text": "He's here and he's trying to teach about"}, {"start": "02:24:14", "end": "02:24:20", "text": "yoga and karma and and Maya and and he"}, {"start": "02:24:18", "end": "02:24:22", "text": "needed to translate it into newer"}, {"start": "02:24:20", "end": "02:24:24", "text": "technological metaphor. So he used the"}, {"start": "02:24:22", "end": "02:24:26", "text": "metaphor of the video of the sorry the"}, {"start": "02:24:24", "end": "02:24:27", "text": "film projector because that was new"}, {"start": "02:24:26", "end": "02:24:29", "text": "technology"}, {"start": "02:24:27", "end": "02:24:32", "text": ">> right? So right back in 1920 films were"}, {"start": "02:24:29", "end": "02:24:35", "text": "relatively new to the a to the world and"}, {"start": "02:24:32", "end": "02:24:38", "text": "he said that we are like actors in this"}, {"start": "02:24:35", "end": "02:24:41", "text": "film and there's suffering happening to"}, {"start": "02:24:38", "end": "02:24:44", "text": "those characters but the actors aren't"}, {"start": "02:24:41", "end": "02:24:47", "text": "dying but they choose the role with"}, {"start": "02:24:44", "end": "02:24:49", "text": "suffering uh but there's a part of us"}, {"start": "02:24:47", "end": "02:24:51", "text": "that's outside and you have to look away"}, {"start": "02:24:49", "end": "02:24:55", "text": "from the screen to see the light. It's"}, {"start": "02:24:51", "end": "02:24:58", "text": "just a projection of of all of that onto"}, {"start": "02:24:55", "end": "02:25:00", "text": "the screen. And so he would use that"}, {"start": "02:24:58", "end": "02:25:03", "text": "metaphor. And I believe if he were alive"}, {"start": "02:25:00", "end": "02:25:04", "text": "today and actually wrote a book uh"}, {"start": "02:25:03", "end": "02:25:06", "text": "called wisdom of a yogi about his"}, {"start": "02:25:04", "end": "02:25:08", "text": "teachings, they asked me to write it."}, {"start": "02:25:06", "end": "02:25:09", "text": "Harper Collins India emailed me one day"}, {"start": "02:25:08", "end": "02:25:10", "text": "and said, \"Will you write this book"}, {"start": "02:25:09", "end": "02:25:12", "text": "about yoga nandanda? Why do you want me"}, {"start": "02:25:10", "end": "02:25:14", "text": "to write the book about yoga for Indians"}, {"start": "02:25:12", "end": "02:25:16", "text": "like young Indians, professionals,"}, {"start": "02:25:14", "end": "02:25:16", "text": ">> a Pakistani American with an Islamic"}, {"start": "02:25:16", "end": "02:25:17", "text": "background"}, {"start": "02:25:16", "end": "02:25:18", "text": ">> who grew up in Michigan"}, {"start": "02:25:17", "end": "02:25:20", "text": ">> from Michigan?"}, {"start": "02:25:18", "end": "02:25:22", "text": ">> I was like, are you serious?\" They're"}, {"start": "02:25:20", "end": "02:25:22", "text": "like, \"Yeah, we want you to write it.\" I"}, {"start": "02:25:22", "end": "02:25:24", "text": "like, \"Why is that?\" They said,"}, {"start": "02:25:22", "end": "02:25:26", "text": "\"Because, you know,\" and I do reference,"}, {"start": "02:25:24", "end": "02:25:28", "text": "you know, yoga. I reference other"}, {"start": "02:25:26", "end": "02:25:29", "text": "mystics. Like there in the subtitle"}, {"start": "02:25:28", "end": "02:25:31", "text": "there's quantum physics and eastern"}, {"start": "02:25:29", "end": "02:25:34", "text": "mystics. But, uh, they said because, you"}, {"start": "02:25:31", "end": "02:25:35", "text": "know, you use these technology analogies"}, {"start": "02:25:34", "end": "02:25:38", "text": "that younger people, meaning like young"}, {"start": "02:25:35", "end": "02:25:39", "text": "professionals will understand. And I"}, {"start": "02:25:38", "end": "02:25:41", "text": "thought about it and I thought if"}, {"start": "02:25:39", "end": "02:25:44", "text": "Yogaandanda were alive today, he would"}, {"start": "02:25:41", "end": "02:25:46", "text": "say we're like in a film, but we're the"}, {"start": "02:25:44", "end": "02:25:48", "text": "actors and we're the characters. We all"}, {"start": "02:25:46", "end": "02:25:50", "text": "have our scripts and these roles we're"}, {"start": "02:25:48", "end": "02:25:51", "text": "supposed to play, but we can change"}, {"start": "02:25:50", "end": "02:25:53", "text": "those scripts. We have free will. We're"}, {"start": "02:25:51", "end": "02:25:56", "text": "also the audience that's sitting there"}, {"start": "02:25:53", "end": "02:25:57", "text": "watching us or you could say like a game"}, {"start": "02:25:56", "end": "02:25:59", "text": "where you're sitting around tables"}, {"start": "02:25:57", "end": "02:26:01", "text": "deciding what to do. And what does that"}, {"start": "02:25:59", "end": "02:26:03", "text": "sound like? It sounds like a massively"}, {"start": "02:26:01", "end": "02:26:03", "text": "multiplayer online role playing game."}, {"start": "02:26:03", "end": "02:26:04", "text": ">> It does."}, {"start": "02:26:03", "end": "02:26:07", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "02:26:04", "end": "02:26:09", "text": ">> Um speaking of uh Yogaanda, can you tell"}, {"start": "02:26:07", "end": "02:26:10", "text": "us about the experience you had in"}, {"start": "02:26:09", "end": "02:26:12", "text": "Anenitus?"}, {"start": "02:26:10", "end": "02:26:15", "text": ">> Oh yeah. So um I was asked to write this"}, {"start": "02:26:12", "end": "02:26:17", "text": "book and I said, \"Okay, I'll write this"}, {"start": "02:26:15", "end": "02:26:20", "text": "book.\" And I started writing it and this"}, {"start": "02:26:17", "end": "02:26:21", "text": "was during co uh and I was hitting a"}, {"start": "02:26:20", "end": "02:26:22", "text": "little bit of a writer's block because"}, {"start": "02:26:21", "end": "02:26:24", "text": "you know it's like this big"}, {"start": "02:26:22", "end": "02:26:26", "text": "responsibility. You're writing about"}, {"start": "02:26:24", "end": "02:26:28", "text": "this well-known and loved spiritual"}, {"start": "02:26:26", "end": "02:26:29", "text": "figure and you know I just for those who"}, {"start": "02:26:28", "end": "02:26:32", "text": "haven't read autobiography yoga it's"}, {"start": "02:26:29", "end": "02:26:34", "text": "chalk full of stories of like uh saints"}, {"start": "02:26:32", "end": "02:26:37", "text": "that are like levitating in the air"}, {"start": "02:26:34", "end": "02:26:38", "text": "billocation. You know this guy's over"}, {"start": "02:26:37", "end": "02:26:41", "text": "here sitting and meditating and somebody"}, {"start": "02:26:38", "end": "02:26:44", "text": "sees them in the park. Uh you've got"}, {"start": "02:26:41", "end": "02:26:46", "text": "like you know the perfume saint who can"}, {"start": "02:26:44", "end": "02:26:48", "text": "make any perfume odor appear on his"}, {"start": "02:26:46", "end": "02:26:50", "text": "hand. You've got this mysterious guy in"}, {"start": "02:26:48", "end": "02:26:52", "text": "the mountains who supposedly has been"}, {"start": "02:26:50", "end": "02:26:54", "text": "living there for 800 years. You've got"}, {"start": "02:26:52", "end": "02:26:56", "text": "this fat 300 lb swami that was 180 years"}, {"start": "02:26:54", "end": "02:26:58", "text": "old when he died supposedly who's really"}, {"start": "02:26:56", "end": "02:27:00", "text": "wellknown. So you got all these stories"}, {"start": "02:26:58", "end": "02:27:02", "text": "and I kind of like these stories. You've"}, {"start": "02:27:00", "end": "02:27:04", "text": "got a guy with a gin who's controlling"}, {"start": "02:27:02", "end": "02:27:06", "text": "what I rep what what I confirm what I"}, {"start": "02:27:04", "end": "02:27:07", "text": "think is a jin. He's a Muslim faker"}, {"start": "02:27:06", "end": "02:27:08", "text": "who's controlling an invisible entity"}, {"start": "02:27:07", "end": "02:27:11", "text": "that's making you know like this cup"}, {"start": "02:27:08", "end": "02:27:12", "text": "appear and disappear. And so I was like"}, {"start": "02:27:11", "end": "02:27:14", "text": "this is all great you know but I gota I"}, {"start": "02:27:12", "end": "02:27:16", "text": "gotta like write be serious and write"}, {"start": "02:27:14", "end": "02:27:17", "text": "you know some serious lessons. And I"}, {"start": "02:27:16", "end": "02:27:19", "text": "wanted to go visit the place where"}, {"start": "02:27:17", "end": "02:27:21", "text": "yogaandanda wrote autobiography yogi and"}, {"start": "02:27:19", "end": "02:27:25", "text": "that was in Ensenus."}, {"start": "02:27:21", "end": "02:27:27", "text": ">> Uh he has a hermitage there and he"}, {"start": "02:27:25", "end": "02:27:29", "text": "actually had a some some you read"}, {"start": "02:27:27", "end": "02:27:30", "text": "autobiography of yogi and you think wow"}, {"start": "02:27:29", "end": "02:27:32", "text": "man everything goes well for this guy."}, {"start": "02:27:30", "end": "02:27:33", "text": "He just says divine mother give me this"}, {"start": "02:27:32", "end": "02:27:35", "text": "and it all happens. And if you read"}, {"start": "02:27:33", "end": "02:27:37", "text": "about his life, you realize he had many"}, {"start": "02:27:35", "end": "02:27:39", "text": "many challenges. And at one point, his"}, {"start": "02:27:37", "end": "02:27:41", "text": "entire his entire organization fell"}, {"start": "02:27:39", "end": "02:27:42", "text": "apart. And he's like, \"Oh man, I just"}, {"start": "02:27:41", "end": "02:27:43", "text": "want to go to India and meditate in a"}, {"start": "02:27:42", "end": "02:27:44", "text": "cave.\""}, {"start": "02:27:43", "end": "02:27:46", "text": ">> Uh the message he got was, \"No, you need"}, {"start": "02:27:44", "end": "02:27:49", "text": "to stay in the west. You know, you're"}, {"start": "02:27:46", "end": "02:27:51", "text": "here in America for a reason.\" Uh and so"}, {"start": "02:27:49", "end": "02:27:54", "text": "then he decided to go to Encanus and"}, {"start": "02:27:51", "end": "02:27:55", "text": "write this book. Uh for about 10 10"}, {"start": "02:27:54", "end": "02:27:56", "text": "years or so it took him to write the"}, {"start": "02:27:55", "end": "02:27:58", "text": "book. And so I wanted to go to the"}, {"start": "02:27:56", "end": "02:28:00", "text": "Hermitage, which is beautiful. If"}, {"start": "02:27:58", "end": "02:28:02", "text": "anyone's ever been there, it's like"}, {"start": "02:28:00", "end": "02:28:03", "text": "overlooking the Pacific Ocean. There's a"}, {"start": "02:28:02", "end": "02:28:05", "text": "beach. He used to walk now it's"}, {"start": "02:28:03", "end": "02:28:07", "text": "literally called Swami's beach that's"}, {"start": "02:28:05", "end": "02:28:08", "text": "the formal name for it and so I wanted"}, {"start": "02:28:07", "end": "02:28:10", "text": "to go there and check it out but it was"}, {"start": "02:28:08", "end": "02:28:13", "text": "during COVID and it was you know closed"}, {"start": "02:28:10", "end": "02:28:16", "text": "to the public and so through another"}, {"start": "02:28:13", "end": "02:28:17", "text": "series of coincidences I I got to meet"}, {"start": "02:28:16", "end": "02:28:19", "text": "some of the people at SRF told them I"}, {"start": "02:28:17", "end": "02:28:21", "text": "was writing this book and they said okay"}, {"start": "02:28:19", "end": "02:28:23", "text": "for you we'll open it up and so"}, {"start": "02:28:21", "end": "02:28:25", "text": "literally I went down there and they had"}, {"start": "02:28:23", "end": "02:28:27", "text": "you know some of the monks or monastics"}, {"start": "02:28:25", "end": "02:28:29", "text": "who live there you know gave me a little"}, {"start": "02:28:27", "end": "02:28:32", "text": "private tour we sat around and talked"}, {"start": "02:28:29", "end": "02:28:33", "text": "and I got to go to yogaandanda's office"}, {"start": "02:28:32", "end": "02:28:34", "text": "where he wrote the book."}, {"start": "02:28:33", "end": "02:28:35", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "02:28:34", "end": "02:28:37", "text": ">> Uh just by myself and they're like here"}, {"start": "02:28:35", "end": "02:28:39", "text": "just you know relax do whatever you want"}, {"start": "02:28:37", "end": "02:28:41", "text": "and I decided to meditate and I'm like"}, {"start": "02:28:39", "end": "02:28:43", "text": "okay I need a you know so this is"}, {"start": "02:28:41", "end": "02:28:45", "text": "inspiring me and it was and then"}, {"start": "02:28:43", "end": "02:28:46", "text": "suddenly I got a vision of yoga nanda"}, {"start": "02:28:45", "end": "02:28:48", "text": "now again it's one of these visions"}, {"start": "02:28:46", "end": "02:28:50", "text": "where you're kind of present and you"}, {"start": "02:28:48", "end": "02:28:52", "text": "still you're still sensing this vision."}, {"start": "02:28:50", "end": "02:28:53", "text": ">> Is it like the man by the tree?"}, {"start": "02:28:52", "end": "02:28:55", "text": ">> Uh no it sort of lives similar to that"}, {"start": "02:28:53", "end": "02:28:55", "text": "but this is a vision of yoga."}, {"start": "02:28:55", "end": "02:28:57", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "02:28:55", "end": "02:28:59", "text": ">> Similar. And he's sitting there with a"}, {"start": "02:28:57", "end": "02:29:01", "text": "stack of papers which is how they wrote"}, {"start": "02:28:59", "end": "02:29:03", "text": "books back then. you know, it was typed"}, {"start": "02:29:01", "end": "02:29:06", "text": "out and he's kind of looking at me, but"}, {"start": "02:29:03", "end": "02:29:07", "text": "with his mischievous grin. Um, and you"}, {"start": "02:29:06", "end": "02:29:09", "text": "know, I always thought thought of him as"}, {"start": "02:29:07", "end": "02:29:11", "text": "a very serious kind of guy, but if you"}, {"start": "02:29:09", "end": "02:29:13", "text": "talked, you know, you you read some of"}, {"start": "02:29:11", "end": "02:29:15", "text": "his other people wrote about him, he was"}, {"start": "02:29:13", "end": "02:29:16", "text": "very mischievous. He would play"}, {"start": "02:29:15", "end": "02:29:17", "text": "practical jokes on his students and"}, {"start": "02:29:16", "end": "02:29:20", "text": "stuff"}, {"start": "02:29:17", "end": "02:29:21", "text": ">> and he's like kind of a glint in his eye"}, {"start": "02:29:20", "end": "02:29:23", "text": "and I was like, \"Yeah, wow. That's"}, {"start": "02:29:21", "end": "02:29:25", "text": "that's him writing autofy yogi. I'm"}, {"start": "02:29:23", "end": "02:29:26", "text": "having a vision of it here.\" and he kind"}, {"start": "02:29:25", "end": "02:29:28", "text": "of smiled at me and he took those papers"}, {"start": "02:29:26", "end": "02:29:29", "text": "and he opened the French doors or"}, {"start": "02:29:28", "end": "02:29:31", "text": "whatever that go out to the ocean and he"}, {"start": "02:29:29", "end": "02:29:34", "text": "tossed them all out there and they flew"}, {"start": "02:29:31", "end": "02:29:36", "text": "everywhere AND I WAS LIKE stop what are"}, {"start": "02:29:34", "end": "02:29:37", "text": "you doing like back then once you lost"}, {"start": "02:29:36", "end": "02:29:40", "text": "the papers that's it you'd have to go"}, {"start": "02:29:37", "end": "02:29:42", "text": "rewrite the book and he smiled and he"}, {"start": "02:29:40", "end": "02:29:44", "text": "laughed and I was like okay what is he"}, {"start": "02:29:42", "end": "02:29:45", "text": "trying to tell me he goes watch the"}, {"start": "02:29:44", "end": "02:29:46", "text": "papers and each of the papers turned"}, {"start": "02:29:45", "end": "02:29:49", "text": "into these little white doves and they"}, {"start": "02:29:46", "end": "02:29:51", "text": "floated off to carried his words to"}, {"start": "02:29:49", "end": "02:29:53", "text": "different parts of of the world and"}, {"start": "02:29:51", "end": "02:29:54", "text": "somehow that like totally got me out of"}, {"start": "02:29:53", "end": "02:29:57", "text": "my writer's block because he was also"}, {"start": "02:29:54", "end": "02:29:59", "text": "saying have fun with it like don't don't"}, {"start": "02:29:57", "end": "02:30:02", "text": "treat it so seriously and it's our words"}, {"start": "02:29:59", "end": "02:30:04", "text": "that we leave behind but say what you"}, {"start": "02:30:02", "end": "02:30:05", "text": "want to say and just have fun and so I"}, {"start": "02:30:04", "end": "02:30:07", "text": "just started writing about all these"}, {"start": "02:30:05", "end": "02:30:09", "text": "yogis with these superpowers right and"}, {"start": "02:30:07", "end": "02:30:11", "text": "the book just flowed from there and it"}, {"start": "02:30:09", "end": "02:30:14", "text": "went on and it did quite well uh in"}, {"start": "02:30:11", "end": "02:30:16", "text": "India as well um"}, {"start": "02:30:14", "end": "02:30:18", "text": "let's say everything that you've talked"}, {"start": "02:30:16", "end": "02:30:21", "text": "about is right and we really are in a"}, {"start": "02:30:18", "end": "02:30:24", "text": "simulation what does that mean for us as"}, {"start": "02:30:21", "end": "02:30:26", "text": "regarding free will does anything matter"}, {"start": "02:30:24", "end": "02:30:28", "text": "Yeah. Well, sometimes people say if I'm"}, {"start": "02:30:26", "end": "02:30:30", "text": "in a simulation, nothing matters. And"}, {"start": "02:30:28", "end": "02:30:32", "text": "I'm say, well, that depends on the"}, {"start": "02:30:30", "end": "02:30:35", "text": "nature of the simulation. You know, if"}, {"start": "02:30:32", "end": "02:30:38", "text": "we are here to learn lessons and have"}, {"start": "02:30:35", "end": "02:30:39", "text": "certain quests and achievements, then if"}, {"start": "02:30:38", "end": "02:30:41", "text": "you don't make the quest, what do you"}, {"start": "02:30:39", "end": "02:30:41", "text": "do? You're going to have to do it again,"}, {"start": "02:30:41", "end": "02:30:42", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "02:30:41", "end": "02:30:44", "text": ">> That's right."}, {"start": "02:30:42", "end": "02:30:45", "text": ">> Uh it's not like you just give up. And"}, {"start": "02:30:44", "end": "02:30:48", "text": "then, you know, you you you may have"}, {"start": "02:30:45", "end": "02:30:50", "text": "more difficult quests afterwards. And so"}, {"start": "02:30:48", "end": "02:30:52", "text": "when we have difficult situations in our"}, {"start": "02:30:50", "end": "02:30:56", "text": "lives, whether it's financial, health"}, {"start": "02:30:52", "end": "02:30:59", "text": "related, relationship related, war,"}, {"start": "02:30:56", "end": "02:31:02", "text": "suffering, you know, we can view it as a"}, {"start": "02:30:59", "end": "02:31:06", "text": "more difficult quest that is part of our"}, {"start": "02:31:02", "end": "02:31:08", "text": "storyline. And perhaps, you know, we can"}, {"start": "02:31:06", "end": "02:31:09", "text": "give meaning to these problems to say,"}, {"start": "02:31:08", "end": "02:31:12", "text": "okay, this is a terrible thing that's"}, {"start": "02:31:09", "end": "02:31:14", "text": "happened. But if I view it as a higher"}, {"start": "02:31:12", "end": "02:31:16", "text": "difficulty quest and in fact maybe the"}, {"start": "02:31:14", "end": "02:31:19", "text": "people whose lives are easy are the"}, {"start": "02:31:16", "end": "02:31:21", "text": "early players and the ones who are"}, {"start": "02:31:19", "end": "02:31:23", "text": "having you know the the the more"}, {"start": "02:31:21", "end": "02:31:24", "text": "difficult lives maybe they're the"}, {"start": "02:31:23", "end": "02:31:25", "text": "advanced players."}, {"start": "02:31:24", "end": "02:31:26", "text": ">> I believe that"}, {"start": "02:31:25", "end": "02:31:27", "text": ">> you know along with I mean you've"}, {"start": "02:31:26", "end": "02:31:28", "text": "probably heard of the telepathy tapes"}, {"start": "02:31:27", "end": "02:31:30", "text": ">> of course"}, {"start": "02:31:28", "end": "02:31:33", "text": ">> uh with Dr. Diane Hennessy and you know"}, {"start": "02:31:30", "end": "02:31:35", "text": "she was uh working with these autistic"}, {"start": "02:31:33", "end": "02:31:37", "text": "kids who were telepathic. So she called"}, {"start": "02:31:35", "end": "02:31:39", "text": "me up a few years before the telepathy"}, {"start": "02:31:37", "end": "02:31:40", "text": "tapes came out and she said, \"Oh, you"}, {"start": "02:31:39", "end": "02:31:43", "text": "know, this is my work. I've been working"}, {"start": "02:31:40", "end": "02:31:45", "text": "with these autistic soant children and"}, {"start": "02:31:43", "end": "02:31:47", "text": "you know like Rainman type where they"}, {"start": "02:31:45", "end": "02:31:48", "text": "can, you know, calculate these numbers.\""}, {"start": "02:31:47", "end": "02:31:50", "text": "And she goes, \"I don't think they're"}, {"start": "02:31:48", "end": "02:31:52", "text": "calculating. I think they're looking it"}, {"start": "02:31:50", "end": "02:31:56", "text": "up in a database.\" And I think this is"}, {"start": "02:31:52", "end": "02:31:59", "text": "an information-based reality. Uh, and so"}, {"start": "02:31:56", "end": "02:32:00", "text": "one of the the the best explanations she"}, {"start": "02:31:59", "end": "02:32:02", "text": "could come up with at the time was that"}, {"start": "02:32:00", "end": "02:32:04", "text": "this is some kind of a simulation. And"}, {"start": "02:32:02", "end": "02:32:07", "text": "so she actually sponsored a conference"}, {"start": "02:32:04", "end": "02:32:09", "text": "on autistic sants and simulation theory."}, {"start": "02:32:07", "end": "02:32:11", "text": "And you know now these autistic kids are"}, {"start": "02:32:09", "end": "02:32:14", "text": "showing us abilities that the rest of us"}, {"start": "02:32:11", "end": "02:32:15", "text": "don't have. But maybe and we view them"}, {"start": "02:32:14", "end": "02:32:18", "text": "as having a physical handicap because"}, {"start": "02:32:15", "end": "02:32:20", "text": "they're non-verbal one meaning most of"}, {"start": "02:32:18", "end": "02:32:22", "text": "them can't speak but they can you know"}, {"start": "02:32:20", "end": "02:32:24", "text": "point to things. They also don't have"}, {"start": "02:32:22", "end": "02:32:26", "text": "fine motor controls right? They have"}, {"start": "02:32:24", "end": "02:32:28", "text": "gross they can move their arm. they can"}, {"start": "02:32:26", "end": "02:32:30", "text": "put their finger here, but many of them,"}, {"start": "02:32:28", "end": "02:32:31", "text": "you know, don't have the fine motor"}, {"start": "02:32:30", "end": "02:32:32", "text": "controls to be able to write like by"}, {"start": "02:32:31", "end": "02:32:36", "text": "hand. Of course, today you don't have to"}, {"start": "02:32:32", "end": "02:32:38", "text": "as much, but um and so I began to think"}, {"start": "02:32:36", "end": "02:32:41", "text": "about that in this context and realized,"}, {"start": "02:32:38", "end": "02:32:45", "text": "well, what if the rest of us are in the"}, {"start": "02:32:41", "end": "02:32:46", "text": "full body suit of the video game or like"}, {"start": "02:32:45", "end": "02:32:48", "text": "Ready Player One"}, {"start": "02:32:46", "end": "02:32:50", "text": ">> and we have the headset on and all we"}, {"start": "02:32:48", "end": "02:32:52", "text": "see is this first person perspective."}, {"start": "02:32:50", "end": "02:32:55", "text": "But because like with a go with a glove,"}, {"start": "02:32:52", "end": "02:32:57", "text": "I've got like full control. I can, you"}, {"start": "02:32:55", "end": "02:33:00", "text": "know, do every little thing that I want,"}, {"start": "02:32:57", "end": "02:33:02", "text": "but if I was half in or half out, or if"}, {"start": "02:33:00", "end": "02:33:04", "text": "I was sitting there with a mouse, okay,"}, {"start": "02:33:02", "end": "02:33:05", "text": "I I could move my character around. I"}, {"start": "02:33:04", "end": "02:33:07", "text": "could point at things, but it's going to"}, {"start": "02:33:05", "end": "02:33:10", "text": "be really hard, right?"}, {"start": "02:33:07", "end": "02:33:12", "text": ">> But I can see stuff from a third person"}, {"start": "02:33:10", "end": "02:33:13", "text": "point of view that you can't see."}, {"start": "02:33:12", "end": "02:33:15", "text": ">> That's right."}, {"start": "02:33:13", "end": "02:33:18", "text": ">> I can put the virtual camera over here."}, {"start": "02:33:15", "end": "02:33:20", "text": "I can message my friends. I can use, you"}, {"start": "02:33:18", "end": "02:33:22", "text": "know, me private messaging. And then,"}, {"start": "02:33:20", "end": "02:33:24", "text": "you know, one of one of the autistic"}, {"start": "02:33:22", "end": "02:33:25", "text": "children, her name is Leu, uh, and she's"}, {"start": "02:33:24", "end": "02:33:27", "text": "been at some of these conferences with"}, {"start": "02:33:25", "end": "02:33:29", "text": "her mother, Dalia, who's also"}, {"start": "02:33:27", "end": "02:33:31", "text": "demonstrating a lot of amazing"}, {"start": "02:33:29", "end": "02:33:32", "text": "capabilities like mindsight and stuff."}, {"start": "02:33:31", "end": "02:33:35", "text": "But Dalia came up to me and she said,"}, {"start": "02:33:32", "end": "02:33:37", "text": "\"Leu wants to tell you something.\" Oh,"}, {"start": "02:33:35", "end": "02:33:38", "text": "what does Leo want to tell me? She goes,"}, {"start": "02:33:37", "end": "02:33:40", "text": "\"When she's communicating with her"}, {"start": "02:33:38", "end": "02:33:42", "text": "friends, it's like they're in a video"}, {"start": "02:33:40", "end": "02:33:43", "text": "game is what she said. And they can help"}, {"start": "02:33:42", "end": "02:33:45", "text": "her and she can see what they're doing"}, {"start": "02:33:43", "end": "02:33:47", "text": "and she can help them. So, it's like"}, {"start": "02:33:45", "end": "02:33:49", "text": "they're all in a video game together.\""}, {"start": "02:33:47", "end": "02:33:50", "text": "And so for me, this was a way a"}, {"start": "02:33:49", "end": "02:33:51", "text": "different way to think about many of"}, {"start": "02:33:50", "end": "02:33:52", "text": "these things."}, {"start": "02:33:51", "end": "02:33:53", "text": ">> Like they're closer to the source code"}, {"start": "02:33:52", "end": "02:33:54", "text": "than we are."}, {"start": "02:33:53", "end": "02:33:56", "text": ">> Yeah. They're closer to the source code"}, {"start": "02:33:54", "end": "02:33:57", "text": "and they have control of the virtual"}, {"start": "02:33:56", "end": "02:33:59", "text": "camera. Yes."}, {"start": "02:33:57", "end": "02:34:01", "text": ">> Which we they're not locked in. And that"}, {"start": "02:33:59", "end": "02:34:02", "text": "there's some disadvantages to that, but"}, {"start": "02:34:01", "end": "02:34:03", "text": "they're actually perhaps the more"}, {"start": "02:34:02", "end": "02:34:05", "text": "advanced players who are trying to get"}, {"start": "02:34:03", "end": "02:34:07", "text": "the rest of us to to wake up that"}, {"start": "02:34:05", "end": "02:34:07", "text": "there's more to this reality than we"}, {"start": "02:34:07", "end": "02:34:10", "text": "know."}, {"start": "02:34:07", "end": "02:34:13", "text": ">> That's right. I I can get behind that."}, {"start": "02:34:10", "end": "02:34:16", "text": "Last thing for you. What"}, {"start": "02:34:13", "end": "02:34:18", "text": "questions or answers do you need to be"}, {"start": "02:34:16", "end": "02:34:20", "text": "sure this is simulation or be sure it's"}, {"start": "02:34:18", "end": "02:34:21", "text": "not? What are those? What are those"}, {"start": "02:34:20", "end": "02:34:23", "text": "things?"}, {"start": "02:34:21", "end": "02:34:26", "text": ">> Well, it's a good question. Uh, and"}, {"start": "02:34:23", "end": "02:34:27", "text": "again, I think"}, {"start": "02:34:26", "end": "02:34:30", "text": "it depends on where you are on this"}, {"start": "02:34:27", "end": "02:34:32", "text": "access, right? So, uh, I mentioned the"}, {"start": "02:34:30", "end": "02:34:34", "text": "access from the NPC to RPG version."}, {"start": "02:34:32", "end": "02:34:36", "text": "That's one access that's important. The"}, {"start": "02:34:34", "end": "02:34:38", "text": "other axis is do you view this as a"}, {"start": "02:34:36", "end": "02:34:41", "text": "literal computer simulation or do you"}, {"start": "02:34:38", "end": "02:34:44", "text": "view it as a metaphor for something very"}, {"start": "02:34:41", "end": "02:34:47", "text": "advanced? And I like to say that it's"}, {"start": "02:34:44", "end": "02:34:49", "text": "really four propositions that I'm"}, {"start": "02:34:47", "end": "02:34:51", "text": "proposing or asserting in these set of"}, {"start": "02:34:49", "end": "02:34:54", "text": "books. The first is that the world"}, {"start": "02:34:51", "end": "02:34:56", "text": "consists of information and not physical"}, {"start": "02:34:54", "end": "02:34:58", "text": "matter."}, {"start": "02:34:56", "end": "02:35:00", "text": "Now I I met I just uh last year or the"}, {"start": "02:34:58", "end": "02:35:02", "text": "year before in fact when I was writing"}, {"start": "02:35:00", "end": "02:35:03", "text": "the second edition I spent a semester"}, {"start": "02:35:02", "end": "02:35:05", "text": "over at the University of Cambridge in"}, {"start": "02:35:03", "end": "02:35:08", "text": "one of their AI groups. In fact the guy"}, {"start": "02:35:05", "end": "02:35:10", "text": "that I work with Henry Chevlin was just"}, {"start": "02:35:08", "end": "02:35:12", "text": "uh he was just hired as a philosopher"}, {"start": "02:35:10", "end": "02:35:14", "text": "goo for Google deep mind and the story"}, {"start": "02:35:12", "end": "02:35:16", "text": "went viral that Google deep mind is"}, {"start": "02:35:14", "end": "02:35:17", "text": "looking at consciousness by hiring a"}, {"start": "02:35:16", "end": "02:35:18", "text": "philosopher that specializes. It's"}, {"start": "02:35:17", "end": "02:35:20", "text": ">> very interesting"}, {"start": "02:35:18", "end": "02:35:22", "text": ">> in that it's really interesting. Um, but"}, {"start": "02:35:20", "end": "02:35:24", "text": "while I was there, I met a Nobel"}, {"start": "02:35:22", "end": "02:35:26", "text": "Prize-winning physicist from the 70s and"}, {"start": "02:35:24", "end": "02:35:27", "text": "I was telling him these propositions."}, {"start": "02:35:26", "end": "02:35:29", "text": ">> You can't name him."}, {"start": "02:35:27", "end": "02:35:30", "text": ">> Oh, yeah. Brian Joseph. Oh, okay. He's"}, {"start": "02:35:29", "end": "02:35:32", "text": "actually fairly wellknown. Uh, something"}, {"start": "02:35:30", "end": "02:35:33", "text": "to do with quantum telling. I forget"}, {"start": "02:35:32", "end": "02:35:36", "text": "what he won the Nobel Prize for back"}, {"start": "02:35:33", "end": "02:35:38", "text": "then, but he's also very into different"}, {"start": "02:35:36", "end": "02:35:40", "text": "uh models of consciousness."}, {"start": "02:35:38", "end": "02:35:41", "text": ">> Um, he also says that, you know, his"}, {"start": "02:35:40", "end": "02:35:43", "text": "colleagues didn't want to talk about"}, {"start": "02:35:41", "end": "02:35:44", "text": "this stuff and he had a lot of stigma"}, {"start": "02:35:43", "end": "02:35:47", "text": "from his colleagues just just for"}, {"start": "02:35:44", "end": "02:35:48", "text": "investigating it. Um but when I told him"}, {"start": "02:35:47", "end": "02:35:51", "text": "that first proposition he goes you know"}, {"start": "02:35:48", "end": "02:35:53", "text": "what that's not controversial anymore"}, {"start": "02:35:51", "end": "02:35:53", "text": "that that the world consists of"}, {"start": "02:35:53", "end": "02:35:56", "text": "information."}, {"start": "02:35:53", "end": "02:35:56", "text": ">> It's not 30 years ago phys physicists"}, {"start": "02:35:56", "end": "02:35:58", "text": "would have said yeah that's"}, {"start": "02:35:56", "end": "02:36:00", "text": "controversial because there's a whole"}, {"start": "02:35:58", "end": "02:36:01", "text": "branch of digital physics there's amount"}, {"start": "02:36:00", "end": "02:36:03", "text": "instead of just talking about"}, {"start": "02:36:01", "end": "02:36:04", "text": "conservation of energy and conservation"}, {"start": "02:36:03", "end": "02:36:06", "text": "of momentum. We're talking about"}, {"start": "02:36:04", "end": "02:36:08", "text": "conservation of information like does"}, {"start": "02:36:06", "end": "02:36:11", "text": "information get lost? Does it get"}, {"start": "02:36:08", "end": "02:36:13", "text": "destroyed? Uh so I mean sure some people"}, {"start": "02:36:11", "end": "02:36:14", "text": "might disagree but for the most part the"}, {"start": "02:36:13", "end": "02:36:16", "text": "idea that that we live in in"}, {"start": "02:36:14", "end": "02:36:18", "text": "information-based reality. Now John"}, {"start": "02:36:16", "end": "02:36:19", "text": "Wheeler his other favorite phrase was it"}, {"start": "02:36:18", "end": "02:36:20", "text": "from bit"}, {"start": "02:36:19", "end": "02:36:23", "text": ">> right"}, {"start": "02:36:20", "end": "02:36:25", "text": ">> uh and that's why that's when he became"}, {"start": "02:36:23", "end": "02:36:27", "text": "my favorite physicist from the 20th"}, {"start": "02:36:25", "end": "02:36:28", "text": "century and what he was saying was he"}, {"start": "02:36:27", "end": "02:36:31", "text": "was looking for this thing called a"}, {"start": "02:36:28", "end": "02:36:35", "text": "particle and we think of a particle as"}, {"start": "02:36:31", "end": "02:36:37", "text": "hard right it's a physical object but he"}, {"start": "02:36:35", "end": "02:36:39", "text": "couldn't find it it's it's like those"}, {"start": "02:36:37", "end": "02:36:41", "text": "Russian dolls you know I think they're"}, {"start": "02:36:39", "end": "02:36:42", "text": "called the matroka dolls"}, {"start": "02:36:41", "end": "02:36:45", "text": ">> or the babushka dolls if they're male or"}, {"start": "02:36:42", "end": "02:36:47", "text": "female there's different versions but He"}, {"start": "02:36:45", "end": "02:36:48", "text": "kept opening up this thing and looking"}, {"start": "02:36:47", "end": "02:36:51", "text": "for this thing at the bottom and it was"}, {"start": "02:36:48", "end": "02:36:52", "text": "just empty at the bottom level. And so"}, {"start": "02:36:51", "end": "02:36:56", "text": "he said what he the conclusion he came"}, {"start": "02:36:52", "end": "02:36:58", "text": "to at the end of his life was that the"}, {"start": "02:36:56", "end": "02:37:00", "text": "only thing that distinguishes one"}, {"start": "02:36:58", "end": "02:37:03", "text": "particle from another is an answer to a"}, {"start": "02:37:00", "end": "02:37:05", "text": "series of yes no questions. And what is"}, {"start": "02:37:03", "end": "02:37:08", "text": "that? That's a bit I mean the basis of"}, {"start": "02:37:05", "end": "02:37:09", "text": "information theory is a one or a zero. Y"}, {"start": "02:37:08", "end": "02:37:11", "text": ">> and so he came up with this phrase that"}, {"start": "02:37:09", "end": "02:37:14", "text": "said anything that's physical like this"}, {"start": "02:37:11", "end": "02:37:17", "text": "coffee cup or mug actually consists of"}, {"start": "02:37:14", "end": "02:37:18", "text": "bits of information and so I think"}, {"start": "02:37:17", "end": "02:37:20", "text": "that's a perspective that's gaining"}, {"start": "02:37:18", "end": "02:37:23", "text": "traction let's put it that way you can"}, {"start": "02:37:20", "end": "02:37:25", "text": "argue with it but you know I think it's"}, {"start": "02:37:23", "end": "02:37:27", "text": "not you know that that hard but then"}, {"start": "02:37:25", "end": "02:37:30", "text": "that information is getting computed"}, {"start": "02:37:27", "end": "02:37:34", "text": "over time we see evidence of algorithms"}, {"start": "02:37:30", "end": "02:37:37", "text": "in nature for it the second proposition"}, {"start": "02:37:34", "end": "02:37:40", "text": "is kind of obvious but really hard to"}, {"start": "02:37:37", "end": "02:37:42", "text": "prove and it is that the world seems"}, {"start": "02:37:40", "end": "02:37:44", "text": "physical so it gets rendered for us. The"}, {"start": "02:37:42", "end": "02:37:46", "text": "bits are rendered in a way that looks"}, {"start": "02:37:44", "end": "02:37:48", "text": "real and feels real. Right? When we"}, {"start": "02:37:46", "end": "02:37:50", "text": "think we're touching the wall, we're not"}, {"start": "02:37:48", "end": "02:37:52", "text": "really touching the wall. Like there's"}, {"start": "02:37:50", "end": "02:37:54", "text": "like electrical signals like the basis"}, {"start": "02:37:52", "end": "02:37:55", "text": "of the universe is electromagnetic,"}, {"start": "02:37:54", "end": "02:37:58", "text": ">> right? It's mostly empty."}, {"start": "02:37:55", "end": "02:38:00", "text": ">> It's 99.9% empty space. You got on the"}, {"start": "02:37:58", "end": "02:38:01", "text": "molecules, it's 99.9% empty. You look at"}, {"start": "02:38:00", "end": "02:38:04", "text": "the atoms,"}, {"start": "02:38:01", "end": "02:38:05", "text": ">> it's 99.9% empty space. You look at you"}, {"start": "02:38:04", "end": "02:38:07", "text": "know you go down to the subatomic"}, {"start": "02:38:05", "end": "02:38:09", "text": "particles and in the end what you have"}, {"start": "02:38:07", "end": "02:38:12", "text": "is a set of information and that is just"}, {"start": "02:38:09", "end": "02:38:14", "text": "like a video game. Now there I'm making"}, {"start": "02:38:12", "end": "02:38:15", "text": "argument by analogy that's not"}, {"start": "02:38:14", "end": "02:38:17", "text": "necessarily"}, {"start": "02:38:15", "end": "02:38:19", "text": "a formal argument but it's an informal"}, {"start": "02:38:17", "end": "02:38:20", "text": "one just like the Copenhagen"}, {"start": "02:38:19", "end": "02:38:22", "text": "interpretation. Nobody knows how the"}, {"start": "02:38:20", "end": "02:38:24", "text": "Copenhagen interpretation works. Nobody"}, {"start": "02:38:22", "end": "02:38:26", "text": "knows how the collapse works. And I'm"}, {"start": "02:38:24", "end": "02:38:27", "text": "saying that basically like a video game"}, {"start": "02:38:26", "end": "02:38:29", "text": "there's no castle there. There's no"}, {"start": "02:38:27", "end": "02:38:32", "text": "dragon. Those are just bits of"}, {"start": "02:38:29", "end": "02:38:34", "text": "information coming to your machine and"}, {"start": "02:38:32", "end": "02:38:37", "text": "they're rendering it for you."}, {"start": "02:38:34", "end": "02:38:38", "text": ">> The third gets into the metaphysical"}, {"start": "02:38:37", "end": "02:38:40", "text": "side, you know,"}, {"start": "02:38:38", "end": "02:38:41", "text": ">> which is that this universe is a big"}, {"start": "02:38:40", "end": "02:38:42", "text": "hoax,"}, {"start": "02:38:41", "end": "02:38:44", "text": ">> a big hoax,"}, {"start": "02:38:42", "end": "02:38:44", "text": ">> a purposeful hoax,"}, {"start": "02:38:44", "end": "02:38:46", "text": ">> Maya"}, {"start": "02:38:44", "end": "02:38:48", "text": ">> like Maya, an illusion. So this is what"}, {"start": "02:38:46", "end": "02:38:52", "text": "gets into the religious and the Maya. I"}, {"start": "02:38:48", "end": "02:38:53", "text": "I was u reading about uh Roger Eert, you"}, {"start": "02:38:52", "end": "02:38:55", "text": "know, the film credit."}, {"start": "02:38:53", "end": "02:38:57", "text": ">> Yeah. So, he died not that long ago,"}, {"start": "02:38:55", "end": "02:38:58", "text": "unfortunately, from throat cancer, but"}, {"start": "02:38:57", "end": "02:38:59", "text": "his wife was with him when he died"}, {"start": "02:38:58", "end": "02:39:01", "text": "naturally."}, {"start": "02:38:59", "end": "02:39:03", "text": ">> And she talked about his death. And she"}, {"start": "02:39:01", "end": "02:39:06", "text": "said the last thing he said"}, {"start": "02:39:03", "end": "02:39:07", "text": ">> just before he died was, \"Oh my god,"}, {"start": "02:39:06", "end": "02:39:08", "text": "it's all a big hoax.\""}, {"start": "02:39:07", "end": "02:39:09", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "02:39:08", "end": "02:39:11", "text": ">> And she said that meant that the"}, {"start": "02:39:09", "end": "02:39:13", "text": "physical universe that we think is real"}, {"start": "02:39:11", "end": "02:39:15", "text": "is all a big hoax. And other people, you"}, {"start": "02:39:13", "end": "02:39:17", "text": "know, that get close to that boundary,"}, {"start": "02:39:15", "end": "02:39:19", "text": "you start to hear similar things and"}, {"start": "02:39:17", "end": "02:39:21", "text": "start to talk to people. So that the"}, {"start": "02:39:19", "end": "02:39:24", "text": "physical world is not just information."}, {"start": "02:39:21", "end": "02:39:27", "text": "And it it's it's like a big hoax. Like"}, {"start": "02:39:24", "end": "02:39:30", "text": "Maya means illusion, but it also means"}, {"start": "02:39:27", "end": "02:39:33", "text": "kind of an illusion that you agree to"}, {"start": "02:39:30", "end": "02:39:34", "text": "walk into and to fool yourself. Right?"}, {"start": "02:39:33", "end": "02:39:36", "text": "We're here in Vegas. There's like, you"}, {"start": "02:39:34", "end": "02:39:37", "text": "know, the magic shows with I don't know"}, {"start": "02:39:36", "end": "02:39:39", "text": "who the latest David Copperfield, Chris"}, {"start": "02:39:37", "end": "02:39:41", "text": "Angel, whoever the latest"}, {"start": "02:39:39", "end": "02:39:42", "text": ">> musician is. You go to a uh and and"}, {"start": "02:39:41", "end": "02:39:45", "text": "that's the best analogy I've heard from"}, {"start": "02:39:42", "end": "02:39:46", "text": "Maya. They said you go to a magic show"}, {"start": "02:39:45", "end": "02:39:49", "text": "and you know that guy is not really"}, {"start": "02:39:46", "end": "02:39:51", "text": "sawing the woman in half but that's what"}, {"start": "02:39:49", "end": "02:39:53", "text": "makes it exciting is it's like magic"}, {"start": "02:39:51", "end": "02:39:55", "text": "right you don't know how it's done but"}, {"start": "02:39:53", "end": "02:39:56", "text": "it's an illusion it's a slight of hand"}, {"start": "02:39:55", "end": "02:39:58", "text": ">> you know and the Buddha you know"}, {"start": "02:39:56", "end": "02:40:00", "text": "eventually came to this conclusion uh"}, {"start": "02:39:58", "end": "02:40:02", "text": "you know where he talked about uh"}, {"start": "02:40:00", "end": "02:40:05", "text": "everything is like a reflection in a"}, {"start": "02:40:02", "end": "02:40:07", "text": "very clear mirror devoid of inherent"}, {"start": "02:40:05", "end": "02:40:09", "text": "existence. So you can buy that or not"}, {"start": "02:40:07", "end": "02:40:11", "text": "buy that proposition but certainly the"}, {"start": "02:40:09", "end": "02:40:13", "text": "spiritual traditions buy that. And then"}, {"start": "02:40:11", "end": "02:40:15", "text": "the fourth one which is similar is that"}, {"start": "02:40:13", "end": "02:40:17", "text": "you agreed to be here and play a"}, {"start": "02:40:15", "end": "02:40:19", "text": "character which is the video game"}, {"start": "02:40:17", "end": "02:40:20", "text": "proposition. Uh you know pure"}, {"start": "02:40:19", "end": "02:40:22", "text": "materialists don't like that at all"}, {"start": "02:40:20", "end": "02:40:24", "text": "because they'll say well there's nothing"}, {"start": "02:40:22", "end": "02:40:24", "text": "beyond this physical world anyway"}, {"start": "02:40:24", "end": "02:40:26", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "02:40:24", "end": "02:40:28", "text": ">> But to me if you take all of those"}, {"start": "02:40:26", "end": "02:40:30", "text": "together that encompasses why I wrote"}, {"start": "02:40:28", "end": "02:40:33", "text": "this book was so that I can talk to"}, {"start": "02:40:30", "end": "02:40:34", "text": "physicists at MIT about now they may not"}, {"start": "02:40:33", "end": "02:40:36", "text": "agree with that it's a simulation or a"}, {"start": "02:40:34", "end": "02:40:38", "text": "computer simulation but they're willing"}, {"start": "02:40:36", "end": "02:40:40", "text": "to talk to me about these ideas. I can't"}, {"start": "02:40:38", "end": "02:40:42", "text": "go in there and say I want to talk to"}, {"start": "02:40:40", "end": "02:40:44", "text": "you about uh you know guys leaving their"}, {"start": "02:40:42", "end": "02:40:48", "text": "body floating around and seeing"}, {"start": "02:40:44", "end": "02:40:49", "text": "apparitions uh and haunted tours or UFOs"}, {"start": "02:40:48", "end": "02:40:51", "text": "or be like ah we're just going to"}, {"start": "02:40:49", "end": "02:40:53", "text": "dismiss this out of hand. But they're"}, {"start": "02:40:51", "end": "02:40:56", "text": "willing to talk about the world being a"}, {"start": "02:40:53", "end": "02:40:58", "text": "a simulated reality or and if it is well"}, {"start": "02:40:56", "end": "02:41:01", "text": "then maybe there are entities that exist"}, {"start": "02:40:58", "end": "02:41:02", "text": "outside of our visibility that exist"}, {"start": "02:41:01", "end": "02:41:04", "text": "outside of the simulation that would"}, {"start": "02:41:02", "end": "02:41:04", "text": "seem supernatural to us"}, {"start": "02:41:04", "end": "02:41:06", "text": ">> like UFOs"}, {"start": "02:41:04", "end": "02:41:08", "text": ">> like UFOs or angels you know"}, {"start": "02:41:06", "end": "02:41:10", "text": ">> or angels could UFOs that we are seeing"}, {"start": "02:41:08", "end": "02:41:12", "text": "be part of the simulation somehow"}, {"start": "02:41:10", "end": "02:41:17", "text": ">> I think so. So there's two different"}, {"start": "02:41:12", "end": "02:41:19", "text": "ways. So one way is u"}, {"start": "02:41:17", "end": "02:41:21", "text": "even if they're extraterrestrial which I"}, {"start": "02:41:19", "end": "02:41:23", "text": "think many many of those of us who have"}, {"start": "02:41:21", "end": "02:41:25", "text": "studied it realize that there's much"}, {"start": "02:41:23", "end": "02:41:26", "text": "more going on in order to explain the"}, {"start": "02:41:25", "end": "02:41:28", "text": "data like if you want to really be"}, {"start": "02:41:26", "end": "02:41:30", "text": "scientific about it you want your"}, {"start": "02:41:28", "end": "02:41:30", "text": "observations and data to match your"}, {"start": "02:41:30", "end": "02:41:33", "text": "explanation. Yes."}, {"start": "02:41:30", "end": "02:41:36", "text": ">> Uh but on the on the one hand when you"}, {"start": "02:41:33", "end": "02:41:37", "text": "have a multiplayer game you're not just"}, {"start": "02:41:36", "end": "02:41:39", "text": "going to have one planet. You're"}, {"start": "02:41:37", "end": "02:41:40", "text": "probably going to have multiple planets."}, {"start": "02:41:39", "end": "02:41:42", "text": "So in fact, part of the purpose of the"}, {"start": "02:41:40", "end": "02:41:44", "text": "simulation could be do you get off the"}, {"start": "02:41:42", "end": "02:41:46", "text": "planet, do you destroy yourself,"}, {"start": "02:41:44", "end": "02:41:48", "text": ">> what's called a great filter, or when"}, {"start": "02:41:46", "end": "02:41:49", "text": "maybe we're we're all trying to get to"}, {"start": "02:41:48", "end": "02:41:52", "text": "the point where these civilizations"}, {"start": "02:41:49", "end": "02:41:54", "text": "meet. But then it gets weirder,"}, {"start": "02:41:52", "end": "02:41:55", "text": ">> right? And on your show, I'm sure you've"}, {"start": "02:41:54", "end": "02:41:57", "text": "covered some of these weird phenomena,"}, {"start": "02:41:55", "end": "02:41:59", "text": "but when I met with Jacques Valet, he"}, {"start": "02:41:57", "end": "02:42:02", "text": "started telling me about these cases"}, {"start": "02:41:59", "end": "02:42:04", "text": "where like one person would see the UFO,"}, {"start": "02:42:02", "end": "02:42:07", "text": "the other person would"}, {"start": "02:42:04", "end": "02:42:08", "text": ">> all the time."}, {"start": "02:42:07", "end": "02:42:10", "text": "I began to think about that and I"}, {"start": "02:42:08", "end": "02:42:13", "text": "thought, \"Huh, that's interesting.\" And"}, {"start": "02:42:10", "end": "02:42:15", "text": "he said, \"There was another case where"}, {"start": "02:42:13", "end": "02:42:17", "text": "this UFO came down at a 45 degree angle"}, {"start": "02:42:15", "end": "02:42:19", "text": "and it landed in a clearing and"}, {"start": "02:42:17", "end": "02:42:22", "text": "supposedly it left a mark.\" So everybody"}, {"start": "02:42:19", "end": "02:42:24", "text": "went muon went and they're looking at"}, {"start": "02:42:22", "end": "02:42:26", "text": "the clearing and he said, \"Well, wait a"}, {"start": "02:42:24", "end": "02:42:28", "text": "minute. If it came down at a 45 degree"}, {"start": "02:42:26", "end": "02:42:29", "text": "angle,\" and this was in like Pacific"}, {"start": "02:42:28", "end": "02:42:30", "text": "Northwest where they have these big"}, {"start": "02:42:29", "end": "02:42:31", "text": "trees."}, {"start": "02:42:30", "end": "02:42:32", "text": ">> He's like, \"It would have had to have"}, {"start": "02:42:31", "end": "02:42:33", "text": "cut through the trees, but the trees"}, {"start": "02:42:32", "end": "02:42:36", "text": "aren't cut. I mean, they're still"}, {"start": "02:42:33", "end": "02:42:37", "text": "there.\" They said, \"Yeah, I did. It went"}, {"start": "02:42:36", "end": "02:42:38", "text": "right through the trees, but we don't"}, {"start": "02:42:37", "end": "02:42:40", "text": "want to say that cuz we sound crazy,"}, {"start": "02:42:38", "end": "02:42:42", "text": "right? So, they're they're they're"}, {"start": "02:42:40", "end": "02:42:44", "text": "censoring their observations. I thought"}, {"start": "02:42:42", "end": "02:42:45", "text": "about that, too. And then then you see"}, {"start": "02:42:44", "end": "02:42:48", "text": "these observations where these things"}, {"start": "02:42:45", "end": "02:42:50", "text": "move around like from here to here. It's"}, {"start": "02:42:48", "end": "02:42:52", "text": "almost like they're projected into our"}, {"start": "02:42:50", "end": "02:42:54", "text": "reality like a light or a holographic"}, {"start": "02:42:52", "end": "02:42:57", "text": "projection. And so, when you res inside"}, {"start": "02:42:54", "end": "02:42:59", "text": "a a game or you know, you're resing, you"}, {"start": "02:42:57", "end": "02:43:01", "text": "can kind of move through walls because"}, {"start": "02:42:59", "end": "02:43:04", "text": "everything's not fully rendered yet. But"}, {"start": "02:43:01", "end": "02:43:06", "text": "once it's rendered, they're physical."}, {"start": "02:43:04", "end": "02:43:10", "text": "And so is it possible that UFOs"}, {"start": "02:43:06", "end": "02:43:13", "text": "represent a projection into our reality"}, {"start": "02:43:10", "end": "02:43:16", "text": "in a way that makes sense to us in that"}, {"start": "02:43:13", "end": "02:43:18", "text": "we are a technological civilization."}, {"start": "02:43:16", "end": "02:43:21", "text": "Aliens make at least some sense to us,"}, {"start": "02:43:18", "end": "02:43:23", "text": "right? More than the jin like the nuts"}, {"start": "02:43:21", "end": "02:43:24", "text": "andbolts aspect. So in this paper that I"}, {"start": "02:43:23", "end": "02:43:28", "text": "mentioned at the very beginning of of"}, {"start": "02:43:24", "end": "02:43:30", "text": "the show about stigma in academia uh the"}, {"start": "02:43:28", "end": "02:43:31", "text": "stigma is getting less because of the"}, {"start": "02:43:30", "end": "02:43:33", "text": "government and the New York Times"}, {"start": "02:43:31", "end": "02:43:35", "text": "article uh it's still there but it's"}, {"start": "02:43:33", "end": "02:43:36", "text": "getting less but only for part of the"}, {"start": "02:43:35", "end": "02:43:36", "text": "UFO"}, {"start": "02:43:36", "end": "02:43:38", "text": ">> phenomenon"}, {"start": "02:43:36", "end": "02:43:39", "text": ">> and that is the nuts and bolts part of"}, {"start": "02:43:38", "end": "02:43:40", "text": "the phenomenon"}, {"start": "02:43:39", "end": "02:43:42", "text": ">> not the consciousness part"}, {"start": "02:43:40", "end": "02:43:42", "text": ">> not the consciousness not even the alien"}, {"start": "02:43:42", "end": "02:43:43", "text": "abductions."}, {"start": "02:43:42", "end": "02:43:44", "text": ">> No"}, {"start": "02:43:43", "end": "02:43:47", "text": ">> because that would require acknowledging"}, {"start": "02:43:44", "end": "02:43:49", "text": "beings and beings that are more powerful"}, {"start": "02:43:47", "end": "02:43:52", "text": "than us. Uh and it gets into all of"}, {"start": "02:43:49", "end": "02:43:55", "text": "that. uh and you know there's this kind"}, {"start": "02:43:52", "end": "02:43:58", "text": "of boundary there but we can at least we"}, {"start": "02:43:55", "end": "02:44:00", "text": "can accept that okay maybe there could"}, {"start": "02:43:58", "end": "02:44:03", "text": "be aliens because we know now there are"}, {"start": "02:44:00", "end": "02:44:05", "text": "other planets around other solar systems"}, {"start": "02:44:03", "end": "02:44:07", "text": "and so maybe the they're presenting"}, {"start": "02:44:05", "end": "02:44:09", "text": "themselves to us as aliens because that"}, {"start": "02:44:07", "end": "02:44:13", "text": "is a technology that would make sense to"}, {"start": "02:44:09", "end": "02:44:16", "text": "us at this point in time uh whereas in"}, {"start": "02:44:13", "end": "02:44:18", "text": "the 50s all these contactes are like"}, {"start": "02:44:16", "end": "02:44:19", "text": "they told us they're from Venus right"}, {"start": "02:44:18", "end": "02:44:20", "text": ">> okay we know they're probably not from"}, {"start": "02:44:19", "end": "02:44:22", "text": "Venus okay assuming they exist First of"}, {"start": "02:44:20", "end": "02:44:23", "text": "all, we know they're probably not from"}, {"start": "02:44:22", "end": "02:44:24", "text": "Venus. They're probably not from Mars."}, {"start": "02:44:23", "end": "02:44:26", "text": "But that was what they told them. Why?"}, {"start": "02:44:24", "end": "02:44:27", "text": "They were lying to them. Why? Because"}, {"start": "02:44:26", "end": "02:44:29", "text": "they could wrap their minds around it."}, {"start": "02:44:27", "end": "02:44:32", "text": "Imagine if you had said we're from Zeta"}, {"start": "02:44:29", "end": "02:44:33", "text": "Reticuli. No. A thousand years ago. They"}, {"start": "02:44:32", "end": "02:44:33", "text": "would be like, \"What are you talking"}, {"start": "02:44:33", "end": "02:44:34", "text": "about?\""}, {"start": "02:44:33", "end": "02:44:37", "text": ">> Couldn't understand it."}, {"start": "02:44:34", "end": "02:44:38", "text": ">> They couldn't understand it. And angels,"}, {"start": "02:44:37", "end": "02:44:40", "text": "they could understand."}, {"start": "02:44:38", "end": "02:44:41", "text": ">> Yes. Thousands of years they could."}, {"start": "02:44:40", "end": "02:44:42", "text": ">> Jin they could understand."}, {"start": "02:44:41", "end": "02:44:44", "text": ">> Yes, they could."}, {"start": "02:44:42", "end": "02:44:46", "text": ">> The Fay they could understand. And is it"}, {"start": "02:44:44", "end": "02:44:49", "text": "possible that that So there's what's"}, {"start": "02:44:46", "end": "02:44:51", "text": "called the Avatar theory of UFOs or the"}, {"start": "02:44:49", "end": "02:44:53", "text": "Avatar hypothesis. There's two different"}, {"start": "02:44:51", "end": "02:44:54", "text": "versions of it. Gary Nolan talks about"}, {"start": "02:44:53", "end": "02:44:55", "text": "one version. I talk about the other"}, {"start": "02:44:54", "end": "02:44:56", "text": "version."}, {"start": "02:44:55", "end": "02:44:58", "text": ">> This is a good time to say that you're"}, {"start": "02:44:56", "end": "02:44:59", "text": "on the board of the Galileo project with"}, {"start": "02:44:58", "end": "02:45:00", "text": "Avi."}, {"start": "02:44:59", "end": "02:45:01", "text": ">> Yeah. I'm I'm on the advisory board."}, {"start": "02:45:00", "end": "02:45:02", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "02:45:01", "end": "02:45:03", "text": ">> And and you work with Gary Nolan as"}, {"start": "02:45:02", "end": "02:45:03", "text": "well."}, {"start": "02:45:03", "end": "02:45:05", "text": ">> Yeah. I've worked with the Soul"}, {"start": "02:45:03", "end": "02:45:07", "text": "Foundation. I wrote a white paper on"}, {"start": "02:45:05", "end": "02:45:08", "text": "venture capital investment in UFO. So,"}, {"start": "02:45:07", "end": "02:45:10", "text": "I'm deep in the topic."}, {"start": "02:45:08", "end": "02:45:12", "text": ">> So, you're in the topic. In fact, in the"}, {"start": "02:45:10", "end": "02:45:14", "text": "academic world, because I I went back to"}, {"start": "02:45:12", "end": "02:45:16", "text": "get my PhD after, you know, I have about"}, {"start": "02:45:14", "end": "02:45:18", "text": "15 years between my bachelors and my"}, {"start": "02:45:16", "end": "02:45:20", "text": "masters and another 15 years between"}, {"start": "02:45:18", "end": "02:45:21", "text": "that and the PhD. And they're like, I"}, {"start": "02:45:20", "end": "02:45:23", "text": "you know, I don't wouldn't talk about"}, {"start": "02:45:21", "end": "02:45:24", "text": "this UFO stuff too much if I were you."}, {"start": "02:45:23", "end": "02:45:26", "text": "I'm like, I already wrote a book saying"}, {"start": "02:45:24", "end": "02:45:26", "text": "the world isn't even real. Like,"}, {"start": "02:45:26", "end": "02:45:28", "text": ">> yeah, you're fine."}, {"start": "02:45:26", "end": "02:45:30", "text": ">> You know, UFOs, you know, it's not even"}, {"start": "02:45:28", "end": "02:45:32", "text": "that weird to me. Like, like, at least"}, {"start": "02:45:30", "end": "02:45:35", "text": "the alien explanation is not that weird."}, {"start": "02:45:32", "end": "02:45:37", "text": "the other stuff maybe. But so one of the"}, {"start": "02:45:35", "end": "02:45:39", "text": "uh the Avatar interpretation I think as"}, {"start": "02:45:37", "end": "02:45:41", "text": "Gary talked about it and uh you know"}, {"start": "02:45:39", "end": "02:45:44", "text": "what had to do like with the film Avatar"}, {"start": "02:45:41", "end": "02:45:46", "text": "in the film he was controlling his"}, {"start": "02:45:44", "end": "02:45:49", "text": "avatar the the the alien but he was"}, {"start": "02:45:46", "end": "02:45:51", "text": "controlling it and so are these beings"}, {"start": "02:45:49", "end": "02:45:53", "text": "controlling the ships and even the"}, {"start": "02:45:51", "end": "02:45:55", "text": "beings that we see remotely. My"}, {"start": "02:45:53", "end": "02:45:57", "text": "interpretation of the avatar of is an"}, {"start": "02:45:55", "end": "02:45:59", "text": "avatar inside a video game is your"}, {"start": "02:45:57", "end": "02:46:02", "text": "character in the game and you can change"}, {"start": "02:45:59", "end": "02:46:04", "text": "that character's characteristics if you"}, {"start": "02:46:02", "end": "02:46:06", "text": "want but you are projecting into a"}, {"start": "02:46:04", "end": "02:46:08", "text": "physical real into a virtual reality"}, {"start": "02:46:06", "end": "02:46:12", "text": "from outside. So it's not just from"}, {"start": "02:46:08", "end": "02:46:15", "text": "another planet or it's being projected"}, {"start": "02:46:12", "end": "02:46:16", "text": "into and supposedly you know people have"}, {"start": "02:46:15", "end": "02:46:19", "text": "been seeing these these different beings"}, {"start": "02:46:16", "end": "02:46:21", "text": "for thousands of years like the jin art"}, {"start": "02:46:19", "end": "02:46:23", "text": "is it they were just presented"}, {"start": "02:46:21", "end": "02:46:25", "text": "themselves a certain way uh because that"}, {"start": "02:46:23", "end": "02:46:27", "text": "would make sense to the people at the"}, {"start": "02:46:25", "end": "02:46:29", "text": "time today aliens is is an"}, {"start": "02:46:27", "end": "02:46:32", "text": "interpretation that would make sense to"}, {"start": "02:46:29", "end": "02:46:36", "text": "us. Um, and so that is it like in a"}, {"start": "02:46:32", "end": "02:46:37", "text": "video game you render the avatar and in"}, {"start": "02:46:36", "end": "02:46:38", "text": "some games you can change your avatar."}, {"start": "02:46:37", "end": "02:46:40", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "02:46:38", "end": "02:46:41", "text": ">> Is it possible that they have unlocked"}, {"start": "02:46:40", "end": "02:46:42", "text": "that feature where they can change what"}, {"start": "02:46:41", "end": "02:46:45", "text": "it how it appears to us"}, {"start": "02:46:42", "end": "02:46:46", "text": ">> or could you take DMT and see kind of"}, {"start": "02:46:45", "end": "02:46:48", "text": "behind the curtain a little bit?"}, {"start": "02:46:46", "end": "02:46:50", "text": ">> Right. Yeah. And people who've taken DMT"}, {"start": "02:46:48", "end": "02:46:53", "text": "start to talk about things like, you"}, {"start": "02:46:50", "end": "02:46:54", "text": "know, a waiting room, right? Or they"}, {"start": "02:46:53", "end": "02:46:56", "text": "talk about different types of beings"}, {"start": "02:46:54", "end": "02:46:59", "text": "like the the different I don't I'm not a"}, {"start": "02:46:56", "end": "02:47:00", "text": "DMT person. the machine elves or"}, {"start": "02:46:59", "end": "02:47:02", "text": ">> machine elves. You've got like the"}, {"start": "02:47:00", "end": "02:47:04", "text": "insectoids. Yes. You've got like all"}, {"start": "02:47:02", "end": "02:47:06", "text": "these different versions of beings that"}, {"start": "02:47:04", "end": "02:47:08", "text": "are there. Uh you know, and there's the"}, {"start": "02:47:06", "end": "02:47:11", "text": "work of Danny Gooler who was a a guy who"}, {"start": "02:47:08", "end": "02:47:13", "text": "projected the laser on the wall and he"}, {"start": "02:47:11", "end": "02:47:15", "text": "he saw the code what looked like code"}, {"start": "02:47:13", "end": "02:47:17", "text": "kind of like matrix code but he said"}, {"start": "02:47:15", "end": "02:47:18", "text": "it's not exactly that and other people"}, {"start": "02:47:17", "end": "02:47:21", "text": "took it and many other people can see it"}, {"start": "02:47:18", "end": "02:47:22", "text": "as well. Uh I started hearing about this"}, {"start": "02:47:21", "end": "02:47:24", "text": "right after I wrote the first edition of"}, {"start": "02:47:22", "end": "02:47:26", "text": "the book in 2019. people are like, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "02:47:24", "end": "02:47:28", "text": "yeah. I've seen the grid lines of the"}, {"start": "02:47:26", "end": "02:47:31", "text": "simulation on DMT.\" And so, it's very"}, {"start": "02:47:28", "end": "02:47:33", "text": "interesting to me how that kind of lines"}, {"start": "02:47:31", "end": "02:47:36", "text": "up because perhaps it's suppressing"}, {"start": "02:47:33", "end": "02:47:38", "text": "whatever mechanisms we have in our brain"}, {"start": "02:47:36", "end": "02:47:41", "text": "uh to be able to perceive this other"}, {"start": "02:47:38", "end": "02:47:43", "text": "reality. Um, so yeah, so there's there's"}, {"start": "02:47:41", "end": "02:47:44", "text": "a lot of relationships there, but you"}, {"start": "02:47:43", "end": "02:47:48", "text": "know, my favorite explanation for the"}, {"start": "02:47:44", "end": "02:47:51", "text": "simul for UFOs is that they're they're"}, {"start": "02:47:48", "end": "02:47:53", "text": "being projected into this world in some"}, {"start": "02:47:51", "end": "02:47:54", "text": "way to get us and and this came from,"}, {"start": "02:47:53", "end": "02:47:57", "text": "you know, my conversations with Jacques"}, {"start": "02:47:54", "end": "02:47:59", "text": "Valet where he talks about how maybe"}, {"start": "02:47:57", "end": "02:48:01", "text": "they're not extraterrestrial at all. Him"}, {"start": "02:47:59", "end": "02:48:02", "text": "and John Keel, I think, were among the"}, {"start": "02:48:01", "end": "02:48:04", "text": "first, saying they've been here all"}, {"start": "02:48:02", "end": "02:48:06", "text": "along. And then the materialist version"}, {"start": "02:48:04", "end": "02:48:09", "text": "of they've been here all along is, you"}, {"start": "02:48:06", "end": "02:48:11", "text": "know, lost civilization in the bottom of"}, {"start": "02:48:09", "end": "02:48:13", "text": "the earth or but a nonmaterialist"}, {"start": "02:48:11", "end": "02:48:16", "text": "explanation would be like they're still"}, {"start": "02:48:13", "end": "02:48:18", "text": "here and but they're projecting in they"}, {"start": "02:48:16", "end": "02:48:20", "text": "can see us but we can't see them. And"}, {"start": "02:48:18", "end": "02:48:22", "text": "that sounds a lot like uh you know these"}, {"start": "02:48:20", "end": "02:48:24", "text": "stories that we've been hearing for"}, {"start": "02:48:22", "end": "02:48:26", "text": "thousands of years about the fay and the"}, {"start": "02:48:24", "end": "02:48:28", "text": "Celtic traditions. They can take you"}, {"start": "02:48:26", "end": "02:48:32", "text": "into their world. uh in in the Middle"}, {"start": "02:48:28", "end": "02:48:37", "text": "East um there there's uh there's even"}, {"start": "02:48:32", "end": "02:48:39", "text": "stories of uh of like hybrids, human gin"}, {"start": "02:48:37", "end": "02:48:41", "text": "hybrids, a man marrying a gin woman and"}, {"start": "02:48:39", "end": "02:48:42", "text": "then having children and then taking"}, {"start": "02:48:41", "end": "02:48:44", "text": "that that child gets taken."}, {"start": "02:48:42", "end": "02:48:47", "text": ">> The Bible has the same stories or or"}, {"start": "02:48:44", "end": "02:48:49", "text": "Uriel taking someone up above the clouds"}, {"start": "02:48:47", "end": "02:48:51", "text": "and seeing seeing the whole thing."}, {"start": "02:48:49", "end": "02:48:53", "text": ">> Right. Right. And so so I think that"}, {"start": "02:48:51", "end": "02:48:55", "text": "that some of that could be going on, you"}, {"start": "02:48:53", "end": "02:48:56", "text": "know, with the UFO phenomen. person I"}, {"start": "02:48:55", "end": "02:48:58", "text": "believe there's something there as"}, {"start": "02:48:56", "end": "02:49:00", "text": "opposed to many of my academic"}, {"start": "02:48:58", "end": "02:49:02", "text": "colleagues who are like h that's all you"}, {"start": "02:49:00", "end": "02:49:03", "text": "know it's all flat earth stuff right"}, {"start": "02:49:02", "end": "02:49:06", "text": "they kind of and then they kind of put"}, {"start": "02:49:03", "end": "02:49:09", "text": "it all together flat earth UFOs"}, {"start": "02:49:06", "end": "02:49:11", "text": "it's not the same thing yeah especially"}, {"start": "02:49:09", "end": "02:49:12", "text": "in fact I wrote an article for NBC News"}, {"start": "02:49:11", "end": "02:49:14", "text": "years ago"}, {"start": "02:49:12", "end": "02:49:16", "text": ">> uh saying you know uh the government is"}, {"start": "02:49:14", "end": "02:49:19", "text": "taking UFOs seriously why aren't isn't"}, {"start": "02:49:16", "end": "02:49:22", "text": "Silicon Valley in academia uh and"}, {"start": "02:49:19", "end": "02:49:24", "text": "academia still isn't although more are"}, {"start": "02:49:22", "end": "02:49:27", "text": "um that's why I wrote that specific"}, {"start": "02:49:24", "end": "02:49:29", "text": "article all about stigma and"}, {"start": "02:49:27", "end": "02:49:30", "text": ">> very important work. Uh RZ, thanks so"}, {"start": "02:49:29", "end": "02:49:32", "text": "much for coming in. This has been s so"}, {"start": "02:49:30", "end": "02:49:34", "text": "much fun. I can keep you here another"}, {"start": "02:49:32", "end": "02:49:35", "text": "couple of hours, but I I know you you"}, {"start": "02:49:34", "end": "02:49:36", "text": "got to get out of here. I appreciate it."}, {"start": "02:49:35", "end": "02:49:38", "text": ">> Yeah. Thanks so much for having me on."}, {"start": "02:49:36", "end": "02:49:39", "text": "This has been a fun conversation. You're"}, {"start": "02:49:38", "end": "02:49:40", "text": "right. We could go on for a few more"}, {"start": "02:49:39", "end": "02:49:42", "text": "hours, I'm sure."}, {"start": "02:49:40", "end": "02:49:45", "text": ">> Okay. Bye, everybody. Bye."}, {"start": "02:49:42", "end": "02:49:48", "text": ">> So, that was Rizwan Verk, Dr. RZwan."}, {"start": "02:49:45", "end": "02:49:50", "text": "Simulation theory, quantum physics, the"}, {"start": "02:49:48", "end": "02:49:52", "text": "Mandela effect, UFOs as avatars, whether"}, {"start": "02:49:50", "end": "02:49:55", "text": "we picked our character before we logged"}, {"start": "02:49:52", "end": "02:49:57", "text": "into this life. Let's try to untangle"}, {"start": "02:49:55", "end": "02:49:59", "text": "some of this. Well, first, Philip K."}, {"start": "02:49:57", "end": "02:50:01", "text": "Dick's 1977 speech in Mets, France,"}, {"start": "02:49:59", "end": "02:50:03", "text": "that's documented. You can find it"}, {"start": "02:50:01", "end": "02:50:05", "text": "online. I talk about it all the time. He"}, {"start": "02:50:03", "end": "02:50:07", "text": "stood in front of a room of science"}, {"start": "02:50:05", "end": "02:50:10", "text": "fiction fans and said, \"We are living in"}, {"start": "02:50:07", "end": "02:50:12", "text": "a computer programmed reality.\" He said"}, {"start": "02:50:10", "end": "02:50:14", "text": "a lot of great stuff during that speech."}, {"start": "02:50:12", "end": "02:50:16", "text": "Definitely watch it. John Wheeler's"}, {"start": "02:50:14", "end": "02:50:19", "text": "delayed choice experiment. That's real"}, {"start": "02:50:16", "end": "02:50:22", "text": "physics. In 2017, a team took it to"}, {"start": "02:50:19", "end": "02:50:24", "text": "space. A satellite about 1,000 km from"}, {"start": "02:50:22", "end": "02:50:27", "text": "the slits. peer-reviewed journal the"}, {"start": "02:50:24", "end": "02:50:29", "text": "whole thing and the result held up. The"}, {"start": "02:50:27", "end": "02:50:31", "text": "particle was in superp position until it"}, {"start": "02:50:29", "end": "02:50:34", "text": "was measured. So that means at the"}, {"start": "02:50:31", "end": "02:50:37", "text": "quantum scale the past genuinely doesn't"}, {"start": "02:50:34", "end": "02:50:39", "text": "appear to be fixed until somebody"}, {"start": "02:50:37", "end": "02:50:42", "text": "observes it. Think about that for a"}, {"start": "02:50:39", "end": "02:50:45", "text": "second. At the quantum scale there is no"}, {"start": "02:50:42", "end": "02:50:48", "text": "time. But here's what I keep coming back"}, {"start": "02:50:45", "end": "02:50:50", "text": "to. The idea that only rendering what's"}, {"start": "02:50:48", "end": "02:50:52", "text": "observed isn't just a video game trick."}, {"start": "02:50:50", "end": "02:50:54", "text": "It might be the underlying logic of"}, {"start": "02:50:52", "end": "02:50:56", "text": "physics itself. Quantum mechanics"}, {"start": "02:50:54", "end": "02:50:59", "text": "already works exactly the way a game"}, {"start": "02:50:56", "end": "02:51:01", "text": "engine does. What RZ is actually doing"}, {"start": "02:50:59", "end": "02:51:03", "text": "isn't selling simulation theory as a"}, {"start": "02:51:01", "end": "02:51:05", "text": "certainty. It's something quieter. It's"}, {"start": "02:51:03", "end": "02:51:08", "text": "more interesting. He's showing that"}, {"start": "02:51:05", "end": "02:51:11", "text": "quantum mechanics, ancient mysticism,"}, {"start": "02:51:08", "end": "02:51:14", "text": "and video game design all point at the"}, {"start": "02:51:11", "end": "02:51:16", "text": "same strange logic that reality might be"}, {"start": "02:51:14", "end": "02:51:19", "text": "rendered, not built. And you don't have"}, {"start": "02:51:16", "end": "02:51:21", "text": "to buy the conclusion, but it's a fact"}, {"start": "02:51:19", "end": "02:51:24", "text": "that three completely unrelated fields"}, {"start": "02:51:21", "end": "02:51:25", "text": "approached by serious people keep"}, {"start": "02:51:24", "end": "02:51:27", "text": "landing in the same uncomfortable"}, {"start": "02:51:25", "end": "02:51:30", "text": "neighborhood. His book is The Simulation"}, {"start": "02:51:27", "end": "02:51:31", "text": "Hypothesis, second edition on Amazon."}, {"start": "02:51:30", "end": "02:51:33", "text": "He's also written The Simulated"}, {"start": "02:51:31", "end": "02:51:35", "text": "Multiverse if you want to go deeper on"}, {"start": "02:51:33", "end": "02:51:39", "text": "the multiple timeline stuff. Also find"}, {"start": "02:51:35", "end": "02:51:42", "text": "him on X at RZ Stanford, R I Z S T A N F"}, {"start": "02:51:39", "end": "02:51:45", "text": "O R D. And I covered simulation theory"}, {"start": "02:51:42", "end": "02:51:47", "text": "in episode 186. Links down below. Until"}, {"start": "02:51:45", "end": "02:51:51", "text": "next time, be safe, be kind, and know"}, {"start": "02:51:47", "end": "02:51:51", "text": "that you are appreciated."}, {"start": "02:52:05", "end": "02:52:15", "text": "I play in 51. A secret code inside the"}, {"start": "02:52:11", "end": "02:52:18", "text": "Bible said I would."}, {"start": "02:52:15", "end": "02:52:24", "text": "I love my UFOs and paranormal fun as"}, {"start": "02:52:18", "end": "02:52:26", "text": "well as music singing like I should."}, {"start": "02:52:24", "end": "02:52:30", "text": "But then another conspiracy theory"}, {"start": "02:52:26", "end": "02:52:32", "text": "becomes the truth my friends"}, {"start": "02:52:30", "end": "02:52:36", "text": "and it never ends."}, {"start": "02:52:32", "end": "02:52:36", "text": "No, it never ends."}, {"start": "02:52:43", "end": "02:52:52", "text": "I feel the crap. I got stuck inside M's"}, {"start": "02:52:46", "end": "02:52:52", "text": "home with MKL truck being only true."}, {"start": "02:52:52", "end": "02:52:58", "text": "Did Stanley Cubrick fake the moon"}, {"start": "02:52:55", "end": "02:53:02", "text": "landing alone on a film set? I would"}, {"start": "02:52:58", "end": "02:53:06", "text": "shadow people there."}, {"start": "02:53:02", "end": "02:53:07", "text": "The Roswell just fought the smiling man."}, {"start": "02:53:06", "end": "02:53:11", "text": "I'm told"}, {"start": "02:53:07", "end": "02:53:15", "text": "and his name was cold. But I can't"}, {"start": "02:53:11", "end": "02:53:17", "text": "agree. I'm dancing with the bitches and"}, {"start": "02:53:15", "end": "02:53:19", "text": "your fish on Thursday night, Wednesday,"}, {"start": "02:53:17", "end": "02:53:23", "text": "day two, and"}, {"start": "02:53:19", "end": "02:53:23", "text": "all through the night."}, {"start": "02:53:24", "end": "02:53:30", "text": "All I ever wanted was to hear the truth."}, {"start": "02:53:27", "end": "02:53:33", "text": "to the world of your feet through the"}, {"start": "02:53:30", "end": "02:53:33", "text": "night."}, {"start": "02:53:49", "end": "02:53:55", "text": "The Mman sidings and the solar storm"}, {"start": "02:53:52", "end": "02:53:59", "text": "still come to gather the secret city"}, {"start": "02:53:55", "end": "02:54:02", "text": "underground. Mysterious"}, {"start": "02:53:59", "end": "02:54:05", "text": "number stations, planet circle, project"}, {"start": "02:54:02", "end": "02:54:08", "text": "star gate, and what the dark watches"}, {"start": "02:54:05", "end": "02:54:11", "text": "found"}, {"start": "02:54:08", "end": "02:54:15", "text": "within a simulation. Don't you worry"}, {"start": "02:54:11", "end": "02:54:19", "text": "though the black night."}, {"start": "02:54:15", "end": "02:54:21", "text": "Oh, I can't believe I'm dancing with the"}, {"start": "02:54:19", "end": "02:54:23", "text": "fish"}, {"start": "02:54:21", "end": "02:54:29", "text": "on Thursday nights when they chase you"}, {"start": "02:54:23", "end": "02:54:29", "text": "and laughing all through the night."}, {"start": "02:54:30", "end": "02:54:35", "text": "All I ever wanted was to just hear the"}, {"start": "02:54:32", "end": "02:54:38", "text": "truth"}, {"start": "02:54:35", "end": "02:54:38", "text": "all through the night."}, {"start": "02:54:39", "end": "02:54:48", "text": "fish on Thursday nights when they change"}, {"start": "02:54:42", "end": "02:54:48", "text": "you and me all through the night."}, {"start": "02:54:49", "end": "02:54:55", "text": "All I ever wanted was to hear the truth."}, {"start": "02:54:52", "end": "02:54:58", "text": "One of the"}, {"start": "02:54:55", "end": "02:54:58", "text": "night"}, {"start": "02:55:09", "end": "02:55:16", "text": "loves to dance"}, {"start": "02:55:13", "end": "02:55:20", "text": "to dance on the dance floor because she"}, {"start": "02:55:16", "end": "02:55:26", "text": "is a camel and camels love to dance when"}, {"start": "02:55:20", "end": "02:55:26", "text": "the feeling is Right. Always in time."}]

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Just say it again."}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "It's It's fine. No, it's it's fine. With"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "This is all in it."}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:12", "text": ">> We'll We'll edit it in."}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "Say Say Say powered. Say powered."}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "Powered."}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "Pow."}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "Pickles, dude."}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "Pickles. Best little snack, dude. I've"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "been cranking blackberries. So, like,"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "whenever I go to shows, like I have"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "blackberries with me. They are the best"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:39", "text": ">> So low calorie, so high fiber. They keep"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "you full, you know? So And they're great"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "on everything."}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:43", "text": ">> Yeah. Blackberries go hard. So, dude,"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "I'm pumped for you guys, man. That's"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "like really encouraging to hear. Yeah, I"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "um I'm going to Cabo in 2 months."}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "And I was just like I'm taking a family"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "vacation, and I was just like I just"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "want to walk around the beach with my"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "shirt off and like So good like Not have"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "to worry like you not have any thoughts"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "whatsoever. It's like man, I feel gross"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "right now. Yeah. Yeah. I was wanting to"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "take my shirt off and look like a"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "superhero for my kids, you know?"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "So, that's the That's the plan. It's"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "just hard with traveling, man. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "Traveling is the worst, bro. It's"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "brutal."}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "How How much longer is your tour? This"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "is the last stop. I'm in Tampa tomorrow,"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "I'm done. I'm not going anywhere."}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "What do you got next?"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "Travel wise? Yeah, just like or business"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "wise. Father's Day summit with I take my"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "dad my dad Father's Day speaking thing"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "with my son. Couple conferences, but"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "they're all like in and out, you know?"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "And then um"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "Yeah, I'm trying not to do much other"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "stuff. Like I'm so tired, dude. I'm just"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "like Are you looking to Bless God 2027?"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I really do want to"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "have you guys back. We're going to I"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "think we got um"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "we're starting to get some soft yeses"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "already, so love you guys back. Trizzle"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "will be back. Same venue?"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "I think so. I think I'm going to do it."}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:51", "text": ">> It's such a good venue and it's such a"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "fun like just vacation for people."}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:55", "text": ">> Yeah. I have not I'm not trying to flex,"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "but like every church asking us to do it"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "there. They're just like, dude, just do"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "it here. We'll give you the venue for"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "free. You can use our tech AV. I'm like,"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "it's just not the same when you do it at"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "a church, you know?"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:06", "text": ">> Yeah. But um yeah, the venue"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:08", "text": ">> Being Being less than 100 ft away from"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "the beach is a game changer. And the"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "amphitheater right there Yeah. was"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "incredible. Yeah. So, we're going to"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "we're going to we're going to do it"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "again. Um"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "but yeah, we got uh I think we got like"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "Melissa Dougherty that's down. I think"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "Frank Turek, I don't know if you guys"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "know who Frank Turek is. But he's down."}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "He gave me a soft yes."}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "And then yeah, and then we're just going"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "to rebook"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "some other stuff, some comedy. You guys"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "familiar with um"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "the Lord's Giant? Yeah. Oh, yeah."}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "Benjamin, yeah. So, Ben and"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:36", "text": ">> him on the podcast. He hasn't said"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "anything yet. I mean, he said he wanted"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "to, but he hasn't came."}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:41", "text": ">> they uh him and uh"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "Ben"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "Ben um what's his name? A cool guy. Josh"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "Josh Benson? Josh Benson. They're doing"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "a pod. So, they want to come. Cool."}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "That'd be awesome."}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:49", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. So, they're Then we could do"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "a pod then."}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "Yeah. Maybe. Yeah. We'll We'll We'll"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "have a better podcast set up this coming"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "year so that like we'll have a room you"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "guys can go into and everyone can just"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "like pod while they're there. Dude,"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "cool. Shane Shane Smith killed it."}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "Wasn't that so good?"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:06", "text": ">> very good."}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:09", "text": ">> It was so fun, man."}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:11", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah, I do a talk like on my my my"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "tour stuff, I do like a origin talk that"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "is"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "uh he that I bounced off of him. I don't"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "call it comedy cuz I would like respect"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "real comedians too much. But there's"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "like some good amount of jokes in there"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "and so I bounced it off of him. It's"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "similar his story, like he has like it's"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "like similar stuff. So I'm talking about"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "like joining a gang and all this sort of"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "stuff. But he's he was really helpful to"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "like just kind of be a a bouncing pad"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "off of stuff. Dude, he was great. So"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "funny. Dude, going to your event was"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "the hardest thing cuz I I been like"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "really suffering with like anxiety and"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "I've always had stage fright."}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "Bro, that was so hard. I I freaking I"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "could tell you were just kind of"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "powering through it."}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:52", "text": ">> And I took way too much of my anxiety"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "medicine to where it was like working"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "against me at that point. I'm just like,"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "I want to fall asleep so bad but I'm"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "freaking out. [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "Just blood pressure of zero."}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:04", "text": ">> oh gosh. You killed it though. You guys"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "do your own live events too though,"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:07", "text": ">> We've only done one tour, like so three"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "shows."}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:10", "text": ">> Okay. Yeah. They went decent."}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:12", "text": ">> How did you feel I mean they were good."}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "Two out of three you threw up. Yeah, for"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "the first show it was equally bad. Okay."}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "Yeah, the third one or the second one,"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "the Tampa one, I started getting a panic"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "attack on stage."}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:22", "text": ">> Oof. I'm like, well this sucks. I'm"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "like, I just I can't just leave."}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:26", "text": ">> And you're talking full-on like you"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "think like chest panic attack."}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:29", "text": ">> it's bad. Yeah, that's brutal. Yeah. And"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "then I'm like taking off my sweater. I'm"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "like,"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:33", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:37", "text": ">> Yeah, that happened to uh"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "Angela uh from Girls Gone Bible. She had"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "a moment where she was about to go out"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "and had a full-on panic attack. I'm"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "like, I I I can't go out there. Like I"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "can't go out there."}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:44", "text": ">> Oh, really? Was she a bus guy? She was"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "not, no."}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:46", "text": ">> going to I I I we were going to okay."}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "No, they're friends of mine though and"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "so she they talked about it and I just"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "kind of checked in on them. But yeah,"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "this it's not uncommon, dude, especially"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "when like you're not used to being in"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "front of people."}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:57", "text": ">> Yeah, I'm not. I actually hate it."}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "You're so good at this though. The"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "billions of people watching."}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "They're not I'm not stand They I can't"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "see them."}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "There's Chris, there's Angela, there's"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "It's one of those Japanese game shows"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "where all the walls fall down."}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:09", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:15", "text": ">> It's been live in [laughter] front of an"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "audience the"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "Oh man, still [laughter] haven't added a"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "gong."}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "Yeah, we need a gong."}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:25", "text": ">> We need to buy a gong. You got a gong"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "guy?"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:27", "text": ">> him a"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:28", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:28", "text": ">> I probably have a gong effect somewhere"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "cuz I"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:31", "text": ">> Okay, we need a we we want to"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:33", "text": ">> No, we want to get like a big"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:35", "text": ">> Like an actual like an actual one. Oh We"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "found one on eBay, dude. The Tibetan one"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "was 600 bucks. We just need to pull the"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "trigger."}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:39", "text": ">> you hit that there's going to be like"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "demons flying out of that thing,"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "[laughter] bro. Cuz they got like"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "all the"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:44", "text": ">> They know all the inscriptions."}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:45", "text": ">> We'll bring it to brother Brennan. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:47", "text": ">> And we'll we'll have it taken care of."}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "Brother Brennan. And then he's in"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "[clears throat] he's in India right now."}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "Which is so cool. So my cousin, he is a"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "basically a monk in Catholicism. Okay."}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "Respects the"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:59", "text": ">> church and they're called the"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "brotherhood, but he's in India right now"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "doing a little"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "mission work. He's at Mother Teresa's"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:05", "text": ">> You know what? I was"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:07", "text": ">> stopping grounds. I was just going to"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "say I just discovered that the majority"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "of her missionary work was India in"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "India. I didn't I didn't know that till"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "like on the flight here. Yeah, I I just"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "found that out from him. Yeah. It's"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "pretty cool. India has a very deep"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "Catholic population, which I also did"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "not know."}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "Okay, you guys familiar with this guy?"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "No, you had him on. What am I What am I"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "talking about? Uh LA"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:26", "text": ">> Marzulli."}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:28", "text": ">> Marzulli, yeah. Oh yeah."}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:29", "text": ">> Never heard of him. Yeah, you just had"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "him on. I'm sorry, I forgot. Yeah, he's"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "he's supposed to come on mine. Really?"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "Yeah. He's he's he's fun, dude. He's so"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "fun. We have some stories for you after"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "the pod."}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:40", "text": ">> Okay, sweet. Yeah, he's he's our he's"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "our oldest guest that we've ever had."}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:43", "text": ">> Uh-huh. The guy will rant and rave"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "forever. He's great. He's got amazing"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "stories."}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:47", "text": ">> Yeah. He's so fun, too. Like, while"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "we're singing, he like pulled out his"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "phone. [laughter] He's like, \"This is"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "great."}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:53", "text": ">> know that anyone's enjoyed a song more"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "than he did."}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "Oh, it's great."}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:57", "text": ">> Yeah, he's awesome. All right, if I if I"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "join in on the song,"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:07:58", "text": ">> Please."}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:00", "text": ">> just roll with it."}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:02", "text": ">> Please. Okay. I'll keep going. All"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "right. Yeah. Please. I screwed up your"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "camera, so I'm going to change that."}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:07", "text": ">> All right, yeah."}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "Quit screwing up, Andrew."}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:11", "text": ">> Didn't you guys have a a switcher here"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "last time, Andrew? Did you decide to go"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "back"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:14", "text": ">> That was the that was our live that we"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "had. That was a live. Okay, okay, okay."}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "Last time you were here, we were doing a"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "live."}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:23", "text": ">> Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Yeah. AI"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "host switching. AI Pod switch pod? I do"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "I run auto pod and there's another that"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "we have that Well, there's another one"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "that does it, too, but we run that. It's"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "like if auto pod goes down, we got"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "another one queued"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:34", "text": ">> That's what he's Chris is working on. I"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "just did a Pastor Joby Martin's pod"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "earlier today, and so he's we're running"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "it that way, too. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:42", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "Well, speaking of songs, Ruslan."}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "Welcome, Ruslan. Hey, [screaming]"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "RUSLAN'S"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "BACK IN THE HOUSE."}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:50", "text": ">> [cheering]"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:52", "text": ">> I DON'T GOT ANY SOUND EFFECTS IN MY"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "HEADPHONES. I don't like it. Yeah, it's"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "all right. Do you want a song? I want a"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "song."}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:59", "text": ">> All right, well, what what was it genre?"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "Any genre you want, we'll do it."}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:00", "text": ">> Hip hop?"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:01", "text": ">> Hip hop."}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:03", "text": ">> you can do that."}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:05", "text": ">> I want a rap song right now."}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:08", "text": ">> We can do it. Bing bong boom. Bing bong"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "boom. What's your favorite genre of rap?"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "Boom bap."}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "90s, early 90s, late 80s. Boom bap is"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "the best."}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:19", "text": ">> bro. Okay. Whoa."}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "Whoa. Uh Echo."}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "Is he just on echo?"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:23", "text": ">> Yeah. Interesting. You guys do this"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "every time. I only put it on my guitar,"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "and then you guys go back and forth."}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:28", "text": ">> So, when it comes out, people are like,"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "\"There's no echo on your Watch."}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:33", "text": ">> Oh, dang. Does Never mind. Echo. You"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "hear it, right? Oh. [laughter] You got"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "You guys did a bit once, and I literally"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "had to put it on post, cuz it went for"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "so long I had to had reverb."}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:40", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "[clears throat]"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:44", "text": ">> All right. Hip hop, boom bap. Here we"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "go."}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "Off the top of the dome."}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:50", "text": ">> [sighs]"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:52", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:52", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:05", "text": ">> In the ancient days"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:08", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:10", "text": ">> before podcasts"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "before algorithms"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "before reaction channels"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:17", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:19", "text": ">> there roamed a warrior"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "a beast among men"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "[music and clears throat]"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "a name whispered only in fear. Ruslan"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "Ruslan KD"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "and many do not know"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "what initials KD truly [music] stand"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "for. What?"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "For some it claims it means kneeling"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "dinosaur."}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:47", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:50", "text": ">> Others believe"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "knitting daddy."}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "There are even those foolish enough to"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "say"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "kangaroo dictator. Kangaroo dictator."}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "But no."}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "KD has only stood for one thing."}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "Ruslan"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "the killer of dragons."}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "He walked through the mountains [music]"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "alone in the rain. As fierce as a tiger"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "but quiet as a mouse. He fought off a"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "demon [music] disguised as a monk then"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "baptized him with a spinning roundhouse."}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "The villagers trembled whenever he'd"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "pass. The horses would bow and the kings"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "would [music] all scream. He once killed"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "a serpent with nothing but a prayer and"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "when he speaks it's with laser beams."}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "[music] The kings tried to stop him."}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "The armies all failed."}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "The dragons kept on coming."}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "But Ruslan"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "[singing and music] prevailed."}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "Ruslan, [music]"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "killer of dragons, slayer of shadows,"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "the stealer of flags. Ruslan, [music]"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "he feared no evil. He once punched a"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "wizard for speaking heresy."}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:12", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:16", "text": ">> Then on the seventh day"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "the dragons looked down from the heavens"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:20", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:23", "text": ">> and they wept."}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "For they knew"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "Ruslan [screaming]"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "Katie"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "was passing approaching."}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:35", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:37", "text": ">> Ruslan, slayer of shadows, destroyer of"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "darkness, the knight of the skies."}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "[music] Ruslan, the last of the heroes,"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "the fist of the fury, the man who never"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "dies. [music]"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "The man who never [music] dies."}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "The man who never dies."}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "That was amazing. Classic boom bap hip"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "hop. That was classic hip hop. Classic"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "boom bap hip hop right there."}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:07", "text": ">> listening to nowadays, Andy?"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:08", "text": ">> That's a big hip hop. A lot of kids are"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "talking about it. A bunch of gangster"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "hip hoppy hop hops."}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:13", "text": ">> Hip hoppy boppity bitty. Bing bang bong."}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "Yes, sir."}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:15", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:22", "text": ">> The man who never dies."}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "Nice."}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "Bong bong."}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "So yeah, if you if you want to use that"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "for your podcast here. Yeah, I mean just"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "it's going to be my intro"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "music for all my live events. The man"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "who never"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "That was great."}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:36", "text": ">> We got to do a live song next time we're"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:38", "text": ">> You absolutely got to do a live song"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "next time you're at the summit."}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "What did you think of our entrance at"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "Blessed God because we didn't tell you"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "about it at all?"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:43", "text": ">> it was the best. I thought it was so"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "good."}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:45", "text": ">> It was like 2 hours before and I was"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "just like, \"Hey, could you play this as"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "our walk-up song right now?\" No, it was"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "great. It was"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "You guys did a great job of just making"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "it fun and I think that's at a summit"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "like that where people were like just"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "receiving it's just great to just have"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "fun."}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:00", "text": ">> Yeah. I loved me and my wife both loved"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "the God Logic debate."}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:03", "text": ">> That was fun. That was a blast."}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:06", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "That was so fun and I I we're I'm glad I"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "I mean I'm bummed I missed it like in"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "person but it was so good to listen to."}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:13", "text": ">> Yeah, yeah, God Logic's been on a tear."}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "He's he's amazing. So, shout out to"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "Avery. Yeah, debates debates are fun."}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "Yeah, it was a great debate. I mean we"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "should do one one day, right? Yeah. What"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "would you guys debate if you had to"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "debate?"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "Who would you debate and what would you"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "debate? I don't know Ruslan."}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:26", "text": ">> I have it in my head right now. I have"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "it in my head. No, let me know."}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:29", "text": ">> head. I got the I got the prompt and I"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "know who you would debate."}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:34", "text": ">> Go. You ready? Ready."}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "Blurry creatures. Yeah. Oh, we'd lose."}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "Are demons"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:39", "text": ">> Wait."}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "Ain't are aliens demons or aliens"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "angels? Bro, I'm just going to"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:45", "text": ">> Or are or can aliens be anything besides"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "demons? That's the prompt."}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "Let's get into that. Yeah, 100%. Let's"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "talk about that but first Ruslan, I need"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "you to just zip it."}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "Josh, he's our guest."}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:57", "text": ">> I know. I didn't bring a firearm this"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "time."}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "Oh, oh, oh."}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "It's loaded, be careful."}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:05", "text": ">> Oh, oh, oh. It's live."}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "You can use that if you want but"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "I hope you don't use it because this"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "person"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:15", "text": ">> [sighs]"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:17", "text": ">> I don't know, guys."}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "Ruslan."}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "You travel the world."}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "You meet a bunch of people."}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "Some good, some bad."}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "Those who are loving, those who are"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "hateful. Mhm."}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "And this question was sent in just for"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "you. Okay. I like it."}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "Is from someone from Patreon? Just"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "someone. Someone, okay."}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:44", "text": ">> One one of our billions of viewers. One"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "of yeah, one of the hundreds of billions"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "of users that we have."}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:48", "text": ">> Viewers. Users."}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "Ruslan."}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "Today's question sent in by a viewer."}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:57", "text": ">> [clears throat]"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:57", "text": ">> Are Canadians nice?"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "Yes. Okay."}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "Yes, they"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:04", "text": ">> No, don't"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:05", "text": ">> Well, okay, well, it depends"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:06", "text": ">> can talk all you want."}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:08", "text": ">> to backtrack now."}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:09", "text": ">> talk all you want, you can talk all you"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "want."}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "I don't know if you watch the news,"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "Ruslan."}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "I do. Apparently occasionally."}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:17", "text": ">> oh, so now he does. No deniability now."}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "I don't know if you've seen recently,"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "but"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "our fearless leader"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:23", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:24", "text": ">> Donald"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "J."}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "Trump."}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:30", "text": ">> Trump. Mhm."}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "He has officially renamed ICE Mhm. into"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "NICE."}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:33", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:38", "text": ">> I don't know why this is funny. The"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "National Immigration and Customs"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "Enforcement."}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:41", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "And now"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "he has now thrown a blanket statement"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "over every single Canadian."}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:48", "text": ">> Every single Canadian."}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:49", "text": ">> billions of Canadians that are out"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "there."}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "You're now saying they're a part of"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "NICE. A part of NICE."}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "Yeah, what are they going to do?"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "I don't I don't know. I'm scared. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "I think I think it's a I don't think"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "they are."}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:02", "text": ">> it's completely irresponsible for him to"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "say that."}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:05", "text": ">> Yeah, it's a very broad statement."}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:06", "text": ">> Because we've always spoken kindly of"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "our Canadian viewers."}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:09", "text": ">> Always. Every single time."}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:10", "text": ">> Every single time. We've never said"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "anything negative."}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:12", "text": ">> they're friends."}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "Come on."}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "Anyways, Ruslan."}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "How could you? I"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "Are you guys afraid that they're going"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "to deport you?"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "Of course. We have families, Ruslan."}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "That would be bad. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:30", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:31", "text": ">> Apparently you don't care."}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:32", "text": ">> know if this is an inappropriate joke."}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "[laughter]"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "But you don't care. This podcast is"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "already probably demonetized, and it's"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "okay. You want our families to grow up"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "without fathers."}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "That's what you're saying."}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:41", "text": ">> That's what he said."}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:41", "text": ">> That's what you're saying."}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:42", "text": ">> Well, I guess you guys heard it here"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "first. Shame."}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:46", "text": ">> Fathers out there, shame. he doesn't"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "want you to be a part of your kids'"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "lives. We know your name. Welcome to the"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "show. Welcome to the show."}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:55", "text": ">> [screaming and groaning]"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:14", "text": ">> Welcome to the show. There it is."}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "Indeed. You did it."}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "Oh, man. Aliens and demons."}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:22", "text": ">> Aliens and demons. I love this. I love"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "this combo."}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "So, recently you've been posting a bunch"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "of videos"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:31", "text": ">> Yes. about this"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "pastoral meeting with this intelligence"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "group that we later find out"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "is not technically involved in the"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "government."}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:39", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "Um they're privatized intelligence"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "group. What that means,"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "we don't know."}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:45", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:48", "text": ">> It's whatever It's whatever they decide."}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "Yeah. Um I just want to hear your"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "thoughts on that. Like cuz we we talked"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "like a week ago about it. I was we were"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "all a little hot and heavy with it of"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "just like"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "we were kind of going down the"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "conspiracy route cuz we were coming at"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "it with the lens of that it was from"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "intelligence. It's like, \"Whoa, what"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "does that mean?\" Um"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:07", "text": ">> it blew up. That's what That's what"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "everything was saying."}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:09", "text": ">> But that's what was being claimed,"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:11", "text": ">> Yeah. I mean, they they just said"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "intelligence."}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:14", "text": ">> Yeah, so like what are we supposed to"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "pull from that? Yeah. Well, they said"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "government. Oh, they did. Oh, yeah, one"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "guy did. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "Yeah, he said someone high up in the"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "government. Yes. Respectable in the"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "government. And it's like"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "first of all, you don't trust a"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "politician. Yep. But either way, it's"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "like that that's what was said. So,"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "that's what we are going on. Yeah, so"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "the guy Perry Stone, Pastor Perry Stone"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "comes out, makes this statement, and"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "they had been talking about this for a"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "while cuz this meeting happened back in"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "February around NRB in Nashville. Okay."}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "So, they they have been talking about"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "this for a while and this is a part of"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "their own"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "end times views that what's going to get"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "disclosed is there's going to be a mass"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "deception of people because what's going"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "to get disclosed is that we really came"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:19:57", "text": "from aliens and that's what you thought"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "you knew about Jesus, he was an alien."}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "What you thought you knew about the"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "Bible, that was all from aliens. So, the"}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "theory was"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "that's what was going to come out. This"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "is back in February. Mhm. Then Perry"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "Stone, for whatever reason, decided to"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "talk about this on his stream. And he"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "was the one that said government. He was"}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "the one that said intelligence. He was"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "the one that said reptilian people. He"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "wasn't there."}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:19", "text": "That was the guy with the UFOs behind"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "him? Like that thing? Yeah."}, {"start": "00:20:19", "end": "00:20:22", "text": ">> Dude, that guy wasn't at the thing?"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:23", "text": ">> He was not at the thing. That's the"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "dangerous second hand news."}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:28", "text": ">> Second hand news."}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:29", "text": ">> No way. So, then another guy named past"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "Pastor Larry"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "ends up coming out and and all these"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:37", "text": "guys co-sign Perry Stone, particularly"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "Allen Dideo uh who I know, and they all"}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "end up co- and basically saying"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "absolutely this happened. I was at this"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "thing. This is exactly what happened. Or"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "or or I'm paraphrasing, but more or less"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "affirming what he said. Another guy"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "named Larry comes out and doesn't just"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "say it was just this he said a standing"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "senator from I think Minnesota called in"}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "and said they're going to deceive the"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "people. They're going to do do do do."}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "Well, this senator responded and was"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:21:00", "text": "like I never said any of this. And then"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:00", "text": "Pastor Larry then had to apologize and"}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "say sorry, guys."}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:02", "text": ">> [clears throat]"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:05", "text": ">> This is my opinion. This wasn't really"}, {"start": "00:21:02", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "said. And then then they started"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "backtracking. Everyone started"}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:09", "text": "backtracking and saying oh, it wasn't"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:11", "text": "really the government. It was Now, look,"}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "from a from a from a one standpoint, I"}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "think these guys meant well. I think"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "they understand that there could be"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "something that's disclosed at some"}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:20", "text": "point. They mean well, but I think what"}, {"start": "00:21:17", "end": "00:21:23", "text": "happened was they were almost being um"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "very good YouTubers. Yeah, yeah."}, {"start": "00:21:23", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "And like like sensationalizing and"}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "embellishing, where if you're a pastor,"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "like that's you you go you operate by a"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:32", "text": "different ethos. Like you can't You"}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "can't do clickbait"}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:34", "text": ">> Yeah, yeah. sensational stuff."}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:36", "text": ">> Content doesn't come first. I will say"}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "our buddy Tony Merkel, who's been on the"}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "pod,"}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:41", "text": "I I talked to him after"}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "and uh he was part of these meetings as"}, {"start": "00:21:41", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "well, at least one of them. I don't know"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "if it was both of them. But he was"}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "pretty mad about it like hitting the"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:49", "text": "news like that. And like cuz people were"}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:50", "text": "coming after him and just being like,"}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "\"Bro, why didn't you talk about this?"}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "Are you hiding this from us?\" And he's"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "like, \"It wasn't just It wasn't"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "important to talk about. Like it was"}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "just like a meeting with pastors. We met"}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "in an Airbnb.\" Well, props to him"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "because he came out and was the one who"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "was like, \"I called the meeting.\" Yeah."}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:04", "text": ">> And there wasn't nobody there from the"}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "government. That these were private"}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "citizens who are It sounded like he"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:09", "text": "called together a meeting of Christian"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "UFO enthusiasts."}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:14", "text": ">> Yeah. Who have their own theories and"}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "files and whatever. And it was just they"}, {"start": "00:22:14", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "just put a little sauce on it and"}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:20", "text": "embellished it. And then you got Joe"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "Rogan now laughing about it, making fun"}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "of the pastors. Like this is a complete"}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "train wreck. Yeah. Does not look good."}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:28", "text": ">> I want to know if there's like an angle"}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "that was played as the story broke. I"}, {"start": "00:22:28", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "can't remember the account my wife"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "follows, but I know the person who runs"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:37", "text": "it has been to like White House"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "pressers. Mhm. And I remember that they"}, {"start": "00:22:37", "end": "00:22:41", "text": "were talking about it ambiguously. Like"}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:43", "text": "intel's coming in, like I'm trying to"}, {"start": "00:22:41", "end": "00:22:45", "text": "put some stuff together. So it was like"}, {"start": "00:22:43", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "they were already like working up the"}, {"start": "00:22:45", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "story before they had a story. And I"}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:51", "text": "just think that's interesting that"}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:53", "text": "someone who's like actually been invited"}, {"start": "00:22:51", "end": "00:22:55", "text": "into the inner circle of what we would"}, {"start": "00:22:53", "end": "00:22:56", "text": "call potentially a propaganda machine."}, {"start": "00:22:55", "end": "00:22:58", "text": "It's like, why are they What are they"}, {"start": "00:22:56", "end": "00:23:00", "text": "leveraging by like"}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "building the story up? You know what I"}, {"start": "00:23:00", "end": "00:23:03", "text": "mean? Cuz like they would for sure know"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "went on."}, {"start": "00:23:03", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "You know what I mean? Like there's like"}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "a there's some weird angle to like other"}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:09", "text": "people using it."}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:11", "text": ">> theory, one of the theories I saw"}, {"start": "00:23:09", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "floating around was that oh, this is one"}, {"start": "00:23:11", "end": "00:23:15", "text": "big distraction"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:18", "text": ">> Yeah. because oh, what about the Epstein"}, {"start": "00:23:15", "end": "00:23:19", "text": "files? What about the war in Iran? What"}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:21", "text": "about all these other like I didn't know"}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:22", "text": "that they were voting on the war of Iran"}, {"start": "00:23:21", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "this week, right?"}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:27", "text": ">> Yeah, yeah. All these other things are"}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:28", "text": "happening and for a moment everyone's"}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:30", "text": "talking about aliens in the government"}, {"start": "00:23:28", "end": "00:23:32", "text": "calling a meeting with pastors. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:23:30", "end": "00:23:34", "text": ">> Which just wasn't true. Yeah. Yeah. So"}, {"start": "00:23:32", "end": "00:23:36", "text": "so even if the top didn't plan it,"}, {"start": "00:23:34", "end": "00:23:38", "text": "they're like, \"Hey, that Just take it."}, {"start": "00:23:36", "end": "00:23:40", "text": ">> And then that works. Yeah. Yeah, yeah."}, {"start": "00:23:38", "end": "00:23:41", "text": "Everybody buzz about it. Just get get it"}, {"start": "00:23:40", "end": "00:23:43", "text": "going."}, {"start": "00:23:41", "end": "00:23:45", "text": "Yeah. I mean, you"}, {"start": "00:23:43", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "you did the video with like a couple of"}, {"start": "00:23:45", "end": "00:23:47", "text": "the videos and stuff with the"}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:49", "text": "disclosure."}, {"start": "00:23:47", "end": "00:23:50", "text": "Bunch of just nothingness."}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:52", "text": ">> nothing burger, bro."}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:53", "text": ">> It's like just I mean, it was nothing."}, {"start": "00:23:52", "end": "00:23:54", "text": "Yeah. It was"}, {"start": "00:23:53", "end": "00:23:56", "text": ">> And like I don't know if you saw this"}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:23:57", "text": "that that star-shaped"}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:23:59", "text": ">> Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. People like"}, {"start": "00:23:57", "end": "00:24:01", "text": "analyzing like that's a flare. It's a"}, {"start": "00:23:59", "end": "00:24:02", "text": "video of the flare. That was the most"}, {"start": "00:24:01", "end": "00:24:04", "text": "interesting thing in the freaking file."}, {"start": "00:24:02", "end": "00:24:06", "text": ">> I know. And like if you watch this video"}, {"start": "00:24:04", "end": "00:24:06", "text": "and you can pull it up on here"}, {"start": "00:24:06", "end": "00:24:08", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:24:06", "end": "00:24:10", "text": ">> there's a there's a that you can clearly"}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:11", "text": "see the pair is a parachute with a flare"}, {"start": "00:24:10", "end": "00:24:13", "text": "on it."}, {"start": "00:24:11", "end": "00:24:14", "text": ">> Oh my gosh. And it's just like"}, {"start": "00:24:13", "end": "00:24:17", "text": ">> like the smoke trail or whatever. But"}, {"start": "00:24:14", "end": "00:24:18", "text": "why would they release even the White"}, {"start": "00:24:17", "end": "00:24:20", "text": "House Tik Tok, the official Tik Tok"}, {"start": "00:24:18", "end": "00:24:21", "text": "release that video?"}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:22", "text": ">> No way. I didn't know that."}, {"start": "00:24:21", "end": "00:24:24", "text": ">> well, why are they cuz they know that's"}, {"start": "00:24:22", "end": "00:24:26", "text": "a flare. The guys are releasing the"}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:27", "text": "video they're like that's clearly a"}, {"start": "00:24:26", "end": "00:24:29", "text": "flare. Let's give them a military"}, {"start": "00:24:27", "end": "00:24:31", "text": ">> person who's ever watched footage is"}, {"start": "00:24:29", "end": "00:24:33", "text": "going like"}, {"start": "00:24:31", "end": "00:24:34", "text": "\"Why why are we talking about that?\" So"}, {"start": "00:24:33", "end": "00:24:37", "text": "it's not just like a few people"}, {"start": "00:24:34", "end": "00:24:40", "text": ">> the minority. Like there's so many like"}, {"start": "00:24:37", "end": "00:24:42", "text": "I the my minority of people are calling"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:43", "text": "that a you know, calling that bluff."}, {"start": "00:24:42", "end": "00:24:46", "text": "The majority are saying, \"Wow, that's"}, {"start": "00:24:43", "end": "00:24:47", "text": "crazy. That's insane. That's like that's"}, {"start": "00:24:46", "end": "00:24:50", "text": "something that we really don't know what"}, {"start": "00:24:47", "end": "00:24:52", "text": "like cuz the majority of people"}, {"start": "00:24:50", "end": "00:24:53", "text": "aren't thinking on the level of like oh,"}, {"start": "00:24:52", "end": "00:24:54", "text": "the government is completely"}, {"start": "00:24:53", "end": "00:24:56", "text": "untrustworthy all the time no matter"}, {"start": "00:24:54", "end": "00:24:59", "text": "what like we're kind of going with it or"}, {"start": "00:24:56", "end": "00:25:00", "text": "they're not even consumed by it. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:24:59", "end": "00:25:03", "text": "They're not even seeing it. I think I"}, {"start": "00:25:00", "end": "00:25:05", "text": "think the the the part that hurts"}, {"start": "00:25:03", "end": "00:25:08", "text": "these pastors' credibility as well as by"}, {"start": "00:25:05", "end": "00:25:10", "text": "proxy the church is what was promised"}, {"start": "00:25:08", "end": "00:25:12", "text": "was going to be earth-shattering. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:25:10", "end": "00:25:13", "text": "And it was going to we're going to call"}, {"start": "00:25:12", "end": "00:25:15", "text": "on it and it was it was again I think"}, {"start": "00:25:13", "end": "00:25:16", "text": "just so much hyperbole. I always kind of"}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:19", "text": "joke around you guys have probably heard"}, {"start": "00:25:16", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "this like the idea of pastor math. You"}, {"start": "00:25:19", "end": "00:25:22", "text": "know, where pastors go in a room and"}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:24", "text": "there's 400 people and they say there's"}, {"start": "00:25:22", "end": "00:25:26", "text": "800 people, right? And so it's like this"}, {"start": "00:25:24", "end": "00:25:28", "text": "is that same kind of thing where we're"}, {"start": "00:25:26", "end": "00:25:29", "text": "like we're using pastor math to describe"}, {"start": "00:25:28", "end": "00:25:31", "text": "serious stuff. And then there's people"}, {"start": "00:25:29", "end": "00:25:33", "text": "that are being affected by this. And the"}, {"start": "00:25:31", "end": "00:25:35", "text": "disclosure comes the same week this is"}, {"start": "00:25:33", "end": "00:25:37", "text": "all going viral. And nothing that you"}, {"start": "00:25:35", "end": "00:25:38", "text": "guys said was in the disclosure was in"}, {"start": "00:25:37", "end": "00:25:41", "text": "the disclosure. So what you were"}, {"start": "00:25:38", "end": "00:25:44", "text": "basically saying was at some point maybe"}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:45", "text": "there could be something that comes and"}, {"start": "00:25:44", "end": "00:25:48", "text": "that will explain or they'll try to use"}, {"start": "00:25:45", "end": "00:25:49", "text": "this to explain away the Bible and Jesus"}, {"start": "00:25:48", "end": "00:25:51", "text": "and Christianity."}, {"start": "00:25:49", "end": "00:25:52", "text": "Yeah. I mean, we we saw the same thing"}, {"start": "00:25:51", "end": "00:25:55", "text": "back in February when all the other"}, {"start": "00:25:52", "end": "00:25:57", "text": "documents were released and there was no"}, {"start": "00:25:55", "end": "00:26:00", "text": "convictions, no ramifications whatsoever"}, {"start": "00:25:57", "end": "00:26:01", "text": "that came from it. And so it's like it's"}, {"start": "00:26:00", "end": "00:26:03", "text": "the same thing over and over again. It's"}, {"start": "00:26:01", "end": "00:26:04", "text": "like so were we just going to keep"}, {"start": "00:26:03", "end": "00:26:05", "text": "falling for this?"}, {"start": "00:26:04", "end": "00:26:07", "text": ">> I love playing are we fools for like"}, {"start": "00:26:05", "end": "00:26:10", "text": "continuing to listen? Like I'm not"}, {"start": "00:26:07", "end": "00:26:11", "text": "saying there's no action in that"}, {"start": "00:26:10", "end": "00:26:14", "text": "question. But I mean, it's just like if"}, {"start": "00:26:11", "end": "00:26:15", "text": "everything we're being fed leads us to"}, {"start": "00:26:14", "end": "00:26:17", "text": "nothing. It's like why are we wasting"}, {"start": "00:26:15", "end": "00:26:19", "text": "our time with it? Well, I I really"}, {"start": "00:26:17", "end": "00:26:21", "text": "I really don't lose the anticipation of"}, {"start": "00:26:19", "end": "00:26:23", "text": "it. Yeah. This UFO disclosure thing I"}, {"start": "00:26:21", "end": "00:26:25", "text": "don't think we'll ever they'll never"}, {"start": "00:26:23", "end": "00:26:26", "text": "release"}, {"start": "00:26:25", "end": "00:26:28", "text": "what they actually know because I think"}, {"start": "00:26:26", "end": "00:26:30", "text": "it's way beyond"}, {"start": "00:26:28", "end": "00:26:32", "text": "even the government's understanding cuz"}, {"start": "00:26:30", "end": "00:26:33", "text": "it's all privatized now. It's these like"}, {"start": "00:26:32", "end": "00:26:35", "text": "Lockheed Martin"}, {"start": "00:26:33", "end": "00:26:38", "text": "just like all these industries"}, {"start": "00:26:35", "end": "00:26:40", "text": "that that that have this information."}, {"start": "00:26:38", "end": "00:26:41", "text": "And it's like they'll never release"}, {"start": "00:26:40", "end": "00:26:43", "text": "that."}, {"start": "00:26:41", "end": "00:26:45", "text": "And like if you like the the crash"}, {"start": "00:26:43", "end": "00:26:47", "text": "retrieval program and stuff"}, {"start": "00:26:45", "end": "00:26:49", "text": "they're not going to release that. And"}, {"start": "00:26:47", "end": "00:26:51", "text": "it just it begs the question it's like"}, {"start": "00:26:49", "end": "00:26:53", "text": "is it something"}, {"start": "00:26:51", "end": "00:26:54", "text": "just more sinister, you know?"}, {"start": "00:26:53", "end": "00:26:57", "text": "And"}, {"start": "00:26:54", "end": "00:26:59", "text": "I I think it is. Totally. More sinister,"}, {"start": "00:26:57", "end": "00:27:01", "text": "more spiritual on a deeper level than"}, {"start": "00:26:59", "end": "00:27:03", "text": "like just what we can physically feel"}, {"start": "00:27:01", "end": "00:27:04", "text": "and touch and see. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:27:03", "end": "00:27:06", "text": ">> Like it's it's something so much deeper"}, {"start": "00:27:04", "end": "00:27:08", "text": "and like that's the point. Like they"}, {"start": "00:27:06", "end": "00:27:10", "text": "they release that, we lose control. So"}, {"start": "00:27:08", "end": "00:27:11", "text": "from you guys' research"}, {"start": "00:27:10", "end": "00:27:13", "text": "if you're just shooting it straight with"}, {"start": "00:27:11", "end": "00:27:14", "text": "me from the amount of time you guys have"}, {"start": "00:27:13", "end": "00:27:17", "text": "spent looking at this"}, {"start": "00:27:14", "end": "00:27:21", "text": "how how much weight is there that there"}, {"start": "00:27:17", "end": "00:27:22", "text": "were actual crafts that crashed? And"}, {"start": "00:27:21", "end": "00:27:23", "text": "they're and they actually have these"}, {"start": "00:27:22", "end": "00:27:25", "text": "crafts somewhere or there's like"}, {"start": "00:27:23", "end": "00:27:28", "text": "substantial evidence for it. Not the"}, {"start": "00:27:25", "end": "00:27:30", "text": "Barack Obama, there's aliens, but I"}, {"start": "00:27:28", "end": "00:27:31", "text": "didn't really mean I just mean there you"}, {"start": "00:27:30", "end": "00:27:32", "text": "know, how much do you how much weight do"}, {"start": "00:27:31", "end": "00:27:34", "text": "you guys think is riding on it? They"}, {"start": "00:27:32", "end": "00:27:35", "text": "they actually have crafts or there's"}, {"start": "00:27:34", "end": "00:27:38", "text": "evidence of crafts and they could"}, {"start": "00:27:35", "end": "00:27:40", "text": "release it if they really wanted to."}, {"start": "00:27:38", "end": "00:27:41", "text": "I definitely think they there's a craft"}, {"start": "00:27:40", "end": "00:27:43", "text": "is some sort of yeah."}, {"start": "00:27:41", "end": "00:27:44", "text": ">> Okay. I think it's less than what"}, {"start": "00:27:43", "end": "00:27:45", "text": "they're putting out. Yeah, yeah. Even"}, {"start": "00:27:44", "end": "00:27:47", "text": "though they're putting out little, I"}, {"start": "00:27:45", "end": "00:27:49", "text": "still think it's less than that because"}, {"start": "00:27:47", "end": "00:27:50", "text": "I think that's easy to"}, {"start": "00:27:49", "end": "00:27:53", "text": "you know, something they created to you"}, {"start": "00:27:50", "end": "00:27:54", "text": "know, blame on something else. Mhm. Um"}, {"start": "00:27:53", "end": "00:27:56", "text": "because I think there's less physical"}, {"start": "00:27:54", "end": "00:27:59", "text": "stuff of that that realm and I think"}, {"start": "00:27:56", "end": "00:28:01", "text": "it's more of given technology, like"}, {"start": "00:27:59", "end": "00:28:03", "text": "knowledge of that technology that we"}, {"start": "00:28:01", "end": "00:28:05", "text": "replicate. Okay, but not physical but"}, {"start": "00:28:03", "end": "00:28:06", "text": "not physical crafts that they have"}, {"start": "00:28:05", "end": "00:28:07", "text": "stored away somewhere. No, I think they"}, {"start": "00:28:06", "end": "00:28:08", "text": "have that."}, {"start": "00:28:07", "end": "00:28:11", "text": ">> think they have that? I think so. I"}, {"start": "00:28:08", "end": "00:28:13", "text": "think so. Yeah. Just I mean cuz like"}, {"start": "00:28:11", "end": "00:28:14", "text": "I kind of I've gone back and forth like"}, {"start": "00:28:13", "end": "00:28:15", "text": "the Bob Lazar story."}, {"start": "00:28:14", "end": "00:28:17", "text": ">> Yes. Um"}, {"start": "00:28:15", "end": "00:28:19", "text": ">> Was it Bob Lazar that said sorry to cut"}, {"start": "00:28:17", "end": "00:28:21", "text": "you off, was it Bob Lazar that said they"}, {"start": "00:28:19", "end": "00:28:23", "text": "were using"}, {"start": "00:28:21", "end": "00:28:24", "text": "Russian little people and putting them"}, {"start": "00:28:23", "end": "00:28:26", "text": "in these planes?"}, {"start": "00:28:24", "end": "00:28:27", "text": ">> Hizer. That was that was Hizer."}, {"start": "00:28:26", "end": "00:28:28", "text": ">> Yeah, yeah. Okay, okay, okay. I'm sorry,"}, {"start": "00:28:27", "end": "00:28:29", "text": "I'm getting them confused. And I"}, {"start": "00:28:28", "end": "00:28:30", "text": "remember he was saying that they were"}, {"start": "00:28:29", "end": "00:28:32", "text": "like Russian little people. I was going"}, {"start": "00:28:30", "end": "00:28:33", "text": "to say the word I'm not supposed to say."}, {"start": "00:28:32", "end": "00:28:34", "text": "And they were putting them in these"}, {"start": "00:28:33", "end": "00:28:36", "text": "little crafts and then they when they"}, {"start": "00:28:34", "end": "00:28:37", "text": "were Well, he he had the theory that it"}, {"start": "00:28:36", "end": "00:28:39", "text": "was children."}, {"start": "00:28:37", "end": "00:28:39", "text": ">> Yeah. That were in this craft that that"}, {"start": "00:28:39", "end": "00:28:42", "text": "the"}, {"start": "00:28:39", "end": "00:28:44", "text": ">> people, dwarfs. Yeah, I I read easy."}, {"start": "00:28:42", "end": "00:28:45", "text": "Yeah. I thought I thought he said"}, {"start": "00:28:44", "end": "00:28:47", "text": "children, but it could have been little"}, {"start": "00:28:45", "end": "00:28:48", "text": "people. Well, that that was that was the"}, {"start": "00:28:47", "end": "00:28:50", "text": "thing like outside of Area 51, right?"}, {"start": "00:28:48", "end": "00:28:53", "text": "When they ordered coffins to come in."}, {"start": "00:28:50", "end": "00:28:55", "text": "Yeah, yeah. Like they ordered coffins"}, {"start": "00:28:53", "end": "00:28:57", "text": "for child-size coffins."}, {"start": "00:28:55", "end": "00:28:59", "text": "Um for the air the crash that happened"}, {"start": "00:28:57", "end": "00:29:00", "text": "outside Area 51. And it's like, oh,"}, {"start": "00:28:59", "end": "00:29:03", "text": "that's interesting. Like Yeah, like oh,"}, {"start": "00:29:00", "end": "00:29:04", "text": "yeah, new Roswell. Yeah. And so it it it"}, {"start": "00:29:03", "end": "00:29:06", "text": "does add some little conflict. But we"}, {"start": "00:29:04", "end": "00:29:08", "text": "also have that story from Russia where"}, {"start": "00:29:06", "end": "00:29:10", "text": "everyone was turned into stone. And it"}, {"start": "00:29:08", "end": "00:29:12", "text": "was little people. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:29:10", "end": "00:29:13", "text": ">> You know, that came out of this craft."}, {"start": "00:29:12", "end": "00:29:14", "text": "And so Yeah."}, {"start": "00:29:13", "end": "00:29:16", "text": ">> know. It's very weird, man."}, {"start": "00:29:14", "end": "00:29:18", "text": ">> Go back to that. Bob Lazar too, sorry."}, {"start": "00:29:16", "end": "00:29:19", "text": "No, you're good. Go. Well, yeah, well,"}, {"start": "00:29:18", "end": "00:29:20", "text": "just the Bob Lazar stuff, just listening"}, {"start": "00:29:19", "end": "00:29:23", "text": "to him."}, {"start": "00:29:20", "end": "00:29:25", "text": "Uh Jesse Michaels, American Alchemy, he"}, {"start": "00:29:23", "end": "00:29:28", "text": "did like a 3 and 1/2 hour interview with"}, {"start": "00:29:25", "end": "00:29:31", "text": "him. I watched his S4 thing."}, {"start": "00:29:28", "end": "00:29:31", "text": "And it I mean, it truly it really seems"}, {"start": "00:29:31", "end": "00:29:33", "text": "legit."}, {"start": "00:29:31", "end": "00:29:35", "text": ">> He seems very compelling. Like I mean,"}, {"start": "00:29:33", "end": "00:29:37", "text": "cuz it's like just with"}, {"start": "00:29:35", "end": "00:29:39", "text": "he had nothing to really gain from the"}, {"start": "00:29:37", "end": "00:29:41", "text": "story except like maybe fame."}, {"start": "00:29:39", "end": "00:29:42", "text": ">> Yeah. But it was really kind of threat"}, {"start": "00:29:41", "end": "00:29:44", "text": "from the government like through the"}, {"start": "00:29:42", "end": "00:29:47", "text": "fame. Um"}, {"start": "00:29:44", "end": "00:29:49", "text": "but the most compelling thing was"}, {"start": "00:29:47", "end": "00:29:50", "text": "in his S4, and I talked about this on"}, {"start": "00:29:49", "end": "00:29:53", "text": "previous podcast."}, {"start": "00:29:50", "end": "00:29:57", "text": "But in his S4 movie that he did, he"}, {"start": "00:29:53", "end": "00:29:59", "text": "described the UFO that he was working on"}, {"start": "00:29:57", "end": "00:30:01", "text": "with the the test flights that they do"}, {"start": "00:29:59", "end": "00:30:03", "text": "every Wednesday or something."}, {"start": "00:30:01", "end": "00:30:06", "text": "And he described it, and then Logan Paul"}, {"start": "00:30:03", "end": "00:30:09", "text": "comes out with the video that he stole"}, {"start": "00:30:06", "end": "00:30:11", "text": "from someone at Area 51, and it matched"}, {"start": "00:30:09", "end": "00:30:14", "text": "up exactly. And it's like, well, maybe"}, {"start": "00:30:11", "end": "00:30:16", "text": "this is it just a great deception"}, {"start": "00:30:14", "end": "00:30:18", "text": "propaganda piece, but I mean, it was"}, {"start": "00:30:16", "end": "00:30:19", "text": "Mhm. dead on. And like I'm pretty"}, {"start": "00:30:18", "end": "00:30:21", "text": "convinced that he was working on"}, {"start": "00:30:19", "end": "00:30:22", "text": "something"}, {"start": "00:30:21", "end": "00:30:23", "text": "futuristic."}, {"start": "00:30:22", "end": "00:30:24", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:30:23", "end": "00:30:26", "text": "Alien."}, {"start": "00:30:24", "end": "00:30:27", "text": ">> my skeptic brain starts to ask"}, {"start": "00:30:26", "end": "00:30:29", "text": "questions, and they're way more"}, {"start": "00:30:27", "end": "00:30:31", "text": "researched. Like I'm honestly not at"}, {"start": "00:30:29", "end": "00:30:33", "text": "all. But like I I think about like if"}, {"start": "00:30:31", "end": "00:30:36", "text": "there was a craft, like let's just say"}, {"start": "00:30:33", "end": "00:30:38", "text": "China lost something here, and it's like"}, {"start": "00:30:36", "end": "00:30:41", "text": "we don't want"}, {"start": "00:30:38", "end": "00:30:42", "text": "it getting out that we have acquired an"}, {"start": "00:30:41", "end": "00:30:44", "text": "enemy or an you know, like that'd be a"}, {"start": "00:30:42", "end": "00:30:47", "text": "big deal if we took something from"}, {"start": "00:30:44", "end": "00:30:49", "text": "somebody else and like buried the story"}, {"start": "00:30:47", "end": "00:30:51", "text": "like you can't have your crap back, you"}, {"start": "00:30:49", "end": "00:30:53", "text": "know, or the American people find out"}, {"start": "00:30:51", "end": "00:30:55", "text": "that another nation's flying like this"}, {"start": "00:30:53", "end": "00:30:57", "text": "tech we have no idea. They were flying"}, {"start": "00:30:55", "end": "00:30:59", "text": "craft Intel, you know, harvesting craft"}, {"start": "00:30:57", "end": "00:31:02", "text": "over us or even if they were like making"}, {"start": "00:30:59", "end": "00:31:04", "text": "contact. I mean, that's like that's a"}, {"start": "00:31:02", "end": "00:31:07", "text": "big deal nation to nation and so like my"}, {"start": "00:31:04", "end": "00:31:08", "text": "brain starts to think well like you pull"}, {"start": "00:31:07", "end": "00:31:10", "text": "people in it's like hey we got this"}, {"start": "00:31:08", "end": "00:31:11", "text": "craft we have no idea what it is or"}, {"start": "00:31:10", "end": "00:31:12", "text": "where it's from and like could it be"}, {"start": "00:31:11", "end": "00:31:14", "text": "like a nation like China who was just"}, {"start": "00:31:12", "end": "00:31:17", "text": "like way ahead in AI and develop"}, {"start": "00:31:14", "end": "00:31:19", "text": "something and then the guys working on"}, {"start": "00:31:17", "end": "00:31:21", "text": "it are like dude we've never even seen"}, {"start": "00:31:19", "end": "00:31:23", "text": "this like this element that made the"}, {"start": "00:31:21", "end": "00:31:25", "text": "thing and they start coming up just as"}, {"start": "00:31:23", "end": "00:31:27", "text": "bros like have you seen this? Like I"}, {"start": "00:31:25", "end": "00:31:28", "text": "don't know where this is from. Some dude"}, {"start": "00:31:27", "end": "00:31:30", "text": "said it's from space and next thing you"}, {"start": "00:31:28", "end": "00:31:31", "text": "know they're reporting that they're"}, {"start": "00:31:30", "end": "00:31:33", "text": "working on a spacecraft. Again, I'm"}, {"start": "00:31:31", "end": "00:31:34", "text": "unresearched but my brain starts to"}, {"start": "00:31:33", "end": "00:31:36", "text": "think through like"}, {"start": "00:31:34", "end": "00:31:38", "text": ">> makes sense. Like what other ways could"}, {"start": "00:31:36", "end": "00:31:41", "text": "they they actually have craft but not"}, {"start": "00:31:38", "end": "00:31:43", "text": "have an explanation for where on earth"}, {"start": "00:31:41", "end": "00:31:46", "text": "did it come from? Cuz the government's"}, {"start": "00:31:43", "end": "00:31:47", "text": "so good at compartment like you might be"}, {"start": "00:31:46", "end": "00:31:51", "text": "working on a project and you have no"}, {"start": "00:31:47", "end": "00:31:52", "text": "idea where the specific thing you're"}, {"start": "00:31:51", "end": "00:31:53", "text": "working on is going. I don't know."}, {"start": "00:31:52", "end": "00:31:54", "text": "That's where my brain goes."}, {"start": "00:31:53", "end": "00:31:55", "text": ">> Here's a theory."}, {"start": "00:31:54", "end": "00:31:57", "text": "Here's a theory. You guys remember the"}, {"start": "00:31:55", "end": "00:31:58", "text": "drone situation? Was that last year?"}, {"start": "00:31:57", "end": "00:32:00", "text": "Right?"}, {"start": "00:31:58", "end": "00:32:02", "text": "Right? And then it come to find out that"}, {"start": "00:32:00", "end": "00:32:05", "text": "these were private"}, {"start": "00:32:02", "end": "00:32:06", "text": "contractors testing stuff. For whatever"}, {"start": "00:32:05", "end": "00:32:07", "text": "reason they didn't want to tell people"}, {"start": "00:32:06", "end": "00:32:09", "text": "and so everyone was freaking out cuz"}, {"start": "00:32:07", "end": "00:32:11", "text": "there's all these drones flying around"}, {"start": "00:32:09", "end": "00:32:14", "text": "and like what are these? What if the"}, {"start": "00:32:11", "end": "00:32:16", "text": "technology is actually in I don't know"}, {"start": "00:32:14", "end": "00:32:18", "text": "if this even works. Okay, so but like is"}, {"start": "00:32:16", "end": "00:32:20", "text": "enclosed drones."}, {"start": "00:32:18", "end": "00:32:22", "text": "So cuz drones could then move. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:32:20", "end": "00:32:25", "text": "Right? Then it's not like a airplane and"}, {"start": "00:32:22", "end": "00:32:26", "text": "they can move. And then the these crafts"}, {"start": "00:32:25", "end": "00:32:28", "text": "that they're finding are actually"}, {"start": "00:32:26", "end": "00:32:30", "text": "enclosed drones"}, {"start": "00:32:28", "end": "00:32:32", "text": "with little people inside of them. It's"}, {"start": "00:32:30", "end": "00:32:34", "text": "possible but a lot of these videos and"}, {"start": "00:32:32", "end": "00:32:35", "text": "accounts it's like defies physics, yeah."}, {"start": "00:32:34", "end": "00:32:37", "text": "You know, like they're just going too"}, {"start": "00:32:35", "end": "00:32:37", "text": "fast and a drone can't go that fast."}, {"start": "00:32:37", "end": "00:32:39", "text": ">> 500"}, {"start": "00:32:37", "end": "00:32:41", "text": ">> miles an hour and entering the water"}, {"start": "00:32:39", "end": "00:32:43", "text": "with no splash and continuing the same"}, {"start": "00:32:41", "end": "00:32:44", "text": "speed, which is like impossible."}, {"start": "00:32:43", "end": "00:32:46", "text": ">> Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know? Yeah, as far"}, {"start": "00:32:44", "end": "00:32:48", "text": "as we know. As far as we know. That's"}, {"start": "00:32:46", "end": "00:32:50", "text": "the crazy thing is there there is"}, {"start": "00:32:48", "end": "00:32:51", "text": "technology that was probably developed"}, {"start": "00:32:50", "end": "00:32:54", "text": "30 years ago that would [clears throat]"}, {"start": "00:32:51", "end": "00:32:56", "text": "blow our minds today. Mhm. That they've"}, {"start": "00:32:54", "end": "00:32:58", "text": "kept under, you know, cover. And so it's"}, {"start": "00:32:56", "end": "00:32:59", "text": "it's so strange, man. It's such a wild"}, {"start": "00:32:58", "end": "00:33:00", "text": "thing and we're never going to really"}, {"start": "00:32:59", "end": "00:33:02", "text": "know. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:33:00", "end": "00:33:03", "text": ">> Right? Like it's it's it's going to"}, {"start": "00:33:02", "end": "00:33:05", "text": "always be hidden from us. I think I"}, {"start": "00:33:03", "end": "00:33:07", "text": "think Bart's theory Bart Sibrel, we had"}, {"start": "00:33:05", "end": "00:33:08", "text": "him on. He's the guy that got punched by"}, {"start": "00:33:07", "end": "00:33:10", "text": "uh Buzz Aldrin."}, {"start": "00:33:08", "end": "00:33:11", "text": ">> Buzz Aldrin. But like he was talking"}, {"start": "00:33:10", "end": "00:33:12", "text": "about the Malaysian flight that"}, {"start": "00:33:11", "end": "00:33:15", "text": "disappeared and he brought it to our"}, {"start": "00:33:12", "end": "00:33:17", "text": "attention that there were 20 people"}, {"start": "00:33:15", "end": "00:33:19", "text": "heading to China but were at the"}, {"start": "00:33:17", "end": "00:33:20", "text": "forefront in their field working on"}, {"start": "00:33:19", "end": "00:33:22", "text": "cloaking. And so his whole"}, {"start": "00:33:20", "end": "00:33:23", "text": ">> Holographics. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. Was it I"}, {"start": "00:33:22", "end": "00:33:26", "text": "thought I thought it I thought he said"}, {"start": "00:33:23", "end": "00:33:28", "text": "holographics and what whatever it anyway"}, {"start": "00:33:26", "end": "00:33:30", "text": "some sort of like imaging sort of thing"}, {"start": "00:33:28", "end": "00:33:31", "text": "and then you look at all the scientists"}, {"start": "00:33:30", "end": "00:33:33", "text": "disappearing and they're like"}, {"start": "00:33:31", "end": "00:33:35", "text": "anti-gravity stuff and it's like so if"}, {"start": "00:33:33", "end": "00:33:36", "text": "you kind of combine and that's what for"}, {"start": "00:33:35", "end": "00:33:36", "text": "quite a period of time. So if you kind"}, {"start": "00:33:36", "end": "00:33:38", "text": "of"}, {"start": "00:33:36", "end": "00:33:40", "text": ">> Science and illusion. Yeah. But then"}, {"start": "00:33:38", "end": "00:33:41", "text": "like imagine imagine just like the"}, {"start": "00:33:40", "end": "00:33:43", "text": "racing drones. If you went back to when"}, {"start": "00:33:41", "end": "00:33:44", "text": "we were in high school and one of those"}, {"start": "00:33:43", "end": "00:33:47", "text": "went"}, {"start": "00:33:44", "end": "00:33:49", "text": "we'd be like, \"Dude, there is a thing"}, {"start": "00:33:47", "end": "00:33:50", "text": "over the football field right now.\" So"}, {"start": "00:33:49", "end": "00:33:53", "text": "like Even jetpacks now. Like like"}, {"start": "00:33:50", "end": "00:33:54", "text": "jetpacks 30 years ago, 20 years ago,"}, {"start": "00:33:53", "end": "00:33:57", "text": "that would have blown our minds. But now"}, {"start": "00:33:54", "end": "00:33:57", "text": "they're doing it as a sport. I I think"}, {"start": "00:33:57", "end": "00:33:59", "text": "the [clears throat]"}, {"start": "00:33:57", "end": "00:34:00", "text": ">> like that's I mean that's bonkers. The"}, {"start": "00:33:59", "end": "00:34:02", "text": "thing that makes it so hard for me to"}, {"start": "00:34:00", "end": "00:34:05", "text": "believe is Gulf Breeze, Florida is was"}, {"start": "00:34:02", "end": "00:34:08", "text": "one of the leading areas of UFO"}, {"start": "00:34:05", "end": "00:34:12", "text": "sightings in the USA. But if you look at"}, {"start": "00:34:08", "end": "00:34:12", "text": "a map of military owned land, it is all"}, {"start": "00:34:12", "end": "00:34:13", "text": "of it."}, {"start": "00:34:12", "end": "00:34:15", "text": ">> Mhm. And so it's like the number one"}, {"start": "00:34:13", "end": "00:34:18", "text": "place where they're seeing craft. It's"}, {"start": "00:34:15", "end": "00:34:20", "text": "like, \"Well, yeah. That's where like all"}, {"start": "00:34:18", "end": "00:34:21", "text": "of the laboratories and research and"}, {"start": "00:34:20", "end": "00:34:22", "text": "tech and development like I personally"}, {"start": "00:34:21", "end": "00:34:24", "text": "know two the dudes who developed the"}, {"start": "00:34:22", "end": "00:34:24", "text": "bunker buster.\" Mhm. They went to my"}, {"start": "00:34:24", "end": "00:34:25", "text": "church."}, {"start": "00:34:24", "end": "00:34:27", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:34:25", "end": "00:34:29", "text": ">> And so it's like that community, of"}, {"start": "00:34:27", "end": "00:34:31", "text": "course, Yeah. around it you're going to"}, {"start": "00:34:29", "end": "00:34:33", "text": "like get sightings of that sort of tech"}, {"start": "00:34:31", "end": "00:34:34", "text": "and everyone called it alien. Now, if"}, {"start": "00:34:33", "end": "00:34:36", "text": "they were to land on America, you know,"}, {"start": "00:34:34", "end": "00:34:38", "text": "in in North America,"}, {"start": "00:34:36", "end": "00:34:40", "text": "that they're testing stuff, you got to"}, {"start": "00:34:38", "end": "00:34:41", "text": "think like, you know, obviously people"}, {"start": "00:34:40", "end": "00:34:42", "text": "are going to see it. There's a chance"}, {"start": "00:34:41", "end": "00:34:44", "text": "that, you know, civilians are going to"}, {"start": "00:34:42", "end": "00:34:45", "text": "be watching this stuff. They're testing"}, {"start": "00:34:44", "end": "00:34:47", "text": "stuff."}, {"start": "00:34:45", "end": "00:34:49", "text": "Do we own any other like islands or"}, {"start": "00:34:47", "end": "00:34:51", "text": "anything that we know of?"}, {"start": "00:34:49", "end": "00:34:53", "text": "Venezuela? Because obviously"}, {"start": "00:34:51", "end": "00:34:53", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:34:53", "end": "00:34:56", "text": ">> newly acquired."}, {"start": "00:34:53", "end": "00:34:56", "text": ">> seen that 69 meme with Donald Trump on"}, {"start": "00:34:56", "end": "00:34:58", "text": "his face?"}, {"start": "00:34:56", "end": "00:34:59", "text": ">> No. You ever seen it? Uh maybe you guys"}, {"start": "00:34:58", "end": "00:35:02", "text": "can put it here. Now, you got to edit"}, {"start": "00:34:59", "end": "00:35:03", "text": "it. But he goes, \"I just took that ish.\""}, {"start": "00:35:02", "end": "00:35:06", "text": "I took [laughter] it and it's but it's"}, {"start": "00:35:03", "end": "00:35:06", "text": "Trump in AI. It's so funny."}, {"start": "00:35:06", "end": "00:35:08", "text": "Anyway, sorry."}, {"start": "00:35:06", "end": "00:35:10", "text": ">> But no, that's like that's something"}, {"start": "00:35:08", "end": "00:35:11", "text": "that my mind goes to like cuz"}, {"start": "00:35:10", "end": "00:35:12", "text": "I mean, you could easily just go"}, {"start": "00:35:11", "end": "00:35:14", "text": "obviously go out in the ocean and test"}, {"start": "00:35:12", "end": "00:35:15", "text": "your stuff, but you I mean, how are you"}, {"start": "00:35:14", "end": "00:35:18", "text": "going to observe it? Whatever."}, {"start": "00:35:15", "end": "00:35:19", "text": "I wonder like what properties we own"}, {"start": "00:35:18", "end": "00:35:21", "text": "outside North America. Well, it's weird"}, {"start": "00:35:19", "end": "00:35:24", "text": "when you look at a map, too, of like"}, {"start": "00:35:21", "end": "00:35:25", "text": "reported UFO sightings, and America's"}, {"start": "00:35:24", "end": "00:35:25", "text": "just lit up."}, {"start": "00:35:25", "end": "00:35:27", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:35:25", "end": "00:35:30", "text": "And then like then you have a little bit"}, {"start": "00:35:27", "end": "00:35:32", "text": "in like the UK, a little bit in Germany,"}, {"start": "00:35:30", "end": "00:35:33", "text": "a little bit in Russia, a little bit in"}, {"start": "00:35:32", "end": "00:35:36", "text": "like Argentina."}, {"start": "00:35:33", "end": "00:35:39", "text": ">> my parents claim to have seen a UFO."}, {"start": "00:35:36", "end": "00:35:40", "text": "Have you ever? I I can't not not close"}, {"start": "00:35:39", "end": "00:35:41", "text": "up. They claim to see have seen one up"}, {"start": "00:35:40", "end": "00:35:41", "text": "close."}, {"start": "00:35:41", "end": "00:35:43", "text": ">> No way."}, {"start": "00:35:41", "end": "00:35:46", "text": ">> What's their story? Yeah, they just they"}, {"start": "00:35:43", "end": "00:35:48", "text": "I think my mom and my dad and and"}, {"start": "00:35:46", "end": "00:35:51", "text": "I this is my memory of them telling me"}, {"start": "00:35:48", "end": "00:35:53", "text": "the story. We're out one night, and they"}, {"start": "00:35:51", "end": "00:35:55", "text": "saw what they claim was a craft that got"}, {"start": "00:35:53", "end": "00:35:57", "text": "close enough to them,"}, {"start": "00:35:55", "end": "00:35:58", "text": "and then and it and it got there and"}, {"start": "00:35:57", "end": "00:36:00", "text": "then"}, {"start": "00:35:58", "end": "00:36:02", "text": "it flew off. This is This is before I"}, {"start": "00:36:00", "end": "00:36:03", "text": "was born. This is Is it Azerbaijan?"}, {"start": "00:36:02", "end": "00:36:05", "text": "Yeah, Baku. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Woah."}, {"start": "00:36:03", "end": "00:36:06", "text": ">> Yeah, so they they've always, you know,"}, {"start": "00:36:05", "end": "00:36:08", "text": "so my mom, like before she became a"}, {"start": "00:36:06", "end": "00:36:10", "text": "Christian, was always like, \"It's the"}, {"start": "00:36:08", "end": "00:36:14", "text": "aliens. The aliens created us.\" She's"}, {"start": "00:36:10", "end": "00:36:14", "text": "been a long time uh UFO. I remember that"}, {"start": "00:36:14", "end": "00:36:15", "text": "that was her whole thing. She's like,"}, {"start": "00:36:14", "end": "00:36:17", "text": "she didn't believe in God cuz she"}, {"start": "00:36:15", "end": "00:36:19", "text": "thought it was aliens. She recently"}, {"start": "00:36:17", "end": "00:36:21", "text": "became a Christian like 4 years ago."}, {"start": "00:36:19", "end": "00:36:22", "text": ">> What What does she believe it is now? We"}, {"start": "00:36:21", "end": "00:36:23", "text": "haven't had a conversation about it. I"}, {"start": "00:36:22", "end": "00:36:24", "text": "got to talk to her about it. Now,"}, {"start": "00:36:23", "end": "00:36:26", "text": "especially"}, {"start": "00:36:24", "end": "00:36:27", "text": "I'm going to call [laughter] her"}, {"start": "00:36:26", "end": "00:36:28", "text": "Let's see if I can get her on the phone."}, {"start": "00:36:27", "end": "00:36:29", "text": "That would be amazing."}, {"start": "00:36:28", "end": "00:36:32", "text": ">> If I can get my mom you guys will love"}, {"start": "00:36:29", "end": "00:36:33", "text": "my mom. So your mom and dad saw it."}, {"start": "00:36:32", "end": "00:36:36", "text": "That's what they claim. Let's see."}, {"start": "00:36:33", "end": "00:36:38", "text": ">> This is your This is Jane and I's story."}, {"start": "00:36:36", "end": "00:36:38", "text": ">> or my dad. Let's see."}, {"start": "00:36:38", "end": "00:36:40", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:36:38", "end": "00:36:42", "text": ">> Let's see if she picks up. I don't know"}, {"start": "00:36:40", "end": "00:36:43", "text": "if she's going to pick up."}, {"start": "00:36:42", "end": "00:36:44", "text": "Yeah, if I imagine this we got to clip"}, {"start": "00:36:43", "end": "00:36:46", "text": "this whole segment out."}, {"start": "00:36:44", "end": "00:36:48", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:36:46", "end": "00:36:48", "text": ">> Gema?"}, {"start": "00:37:11", "end": "00:37:19", "text": "What did you see mom?"}, {"start": "00:37:13", "end": "00:37:22", "text": "I saw a huge green cloud. And that cloud"}, {"start": "00:37:19", "end": "00:37:25", "text": "was kind follow us. We stopped the cloud"}, {"start": "00:37:22", "end": "00:37:28", "text": "stopped. We moving the cloud moving."}, {"start": "00:37:25", "end": "00:37:30", "text": "And then it became small small small and"}, {"start": "00:37:28", "end": "00:37:32", "text": "it was gone. And and how and when was"}, {"start": "00:37:30", "end": "00:37:35", "text": "this?"}, {"start": "00:37:32", "end": "00:37:37", "text": "Uh it was I don't know before we get"}, {"start": "00:37:35", "end": "00:37:39", "text": "married. Okay. And you guys were"}, {"start": "00:37:37", "end": "00:37:41", "text": "together?"}, {"start": "00:37:39", "end": "00:37:45", "text": "Yeah, it was um"}, {"start": "00:37:41", "end": "00:37:49", "text": "He was born 84 we get married 83 so it"}, {"start": "00:37:45", "end": "00:37:51", "text": "was kind like 82 something like 1982."}, {"start": "00:37:49", "end": "00:37:54", "text": "And it was completely unnatural. Nothing"}, {"start": "00:37:51", "end": "00:37:56", "text": "could have ever naturally explained it."}, {"start": "00:37:54", "end": "00:37:58", "text": "Yeah. Was it Was it natural? Was there"}, {"start": "00:37:56", "end": "00:38:02", "text": "any way to naturally explain it? Like uh"}, {"start": "00:37:58", "end": "00:38:05", "text": "any other way besides a UFO?"}, {"start": "00:38:02", "end": "00:38:09", "text": "No, it was just a huge cloud green"}, {"start": "00:38:05", "end": "00:38:12", "text": "color. Because usually it it was dark,"}, {"start": "00:38:09", "end": "00:38:13", "text": "you know, like usually at dark time even"}, {"start": "00:38:12", "end": "00:38:17", "text": "if [clears throat] it's cloud it's"}, {"start": "00:38:13", "end": "00:38:19", "text": "white. But it was green. Green color."}, {"start": "00:38:17", "end": "00:38:22", "text": ">> Huh. Okay."}, {"start": "00:38:19", "end": "00:38:26", "text": "It was like a light. You know?"}, {"start": "00:38:22", "end": "00:38:29", "text": ">> Wow. Like a round cloud color green and"}, {"start": "00:38:26", "end": "00:38:32", "text": "it was following us. And then"}, {"start": "00:38:29", "end": "00:38:34", "text": "it was follow us maybe 30 minutes. Mhm."}, {"start": "00:38:32", "end": "00:38:38", "text": "Was it just empty?"}, {"start": "00:38:34", "end": "00:38:38", "text": "It was it just you and and"}, {"start": "00:38:40", "end": "00:38:47", "text": "No, it was me and him and we were going"}, {"start": "00:38:42", "end": "00:38:50", "text": "to visit his friend uh Gorgon. In Baku?"}, {"start": "00:38:47", "end": "00:38:51", "text": "In Baku. Okay. How did it make you feel?"}, {"start": "00:38:50", "end": "00:38:52", "text": "How did it make you feel?"}, {"start": "00:38:51", "end": "00:38:55", "text": "Just feel."}, {"start": "00:38:52", "end": "00:38:57", "text": "No, we just feel like something follow"}, {"start": "00:38:55", "end": "00:39:00", "text": "us, you know? Like something like that."}, {"start": "00:38:57", "end": "00:39:02", "text": ">> Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Like some something"}, {"start": "00:39:00", "end": "00:39:04", "text": "watching us, something"}, {"start": "00:39:02", "end": "00:39:07", "text": "and the cloud was following like we"}, {"start": "00:39:04", "end": "00:39:09", "text": "moving they moving. We stop they stop. I"}, {"start": "00:39:07", "end": "00:39:13", "text": "mean the cloud stop, the light,"}, {"start": "00:39:09", "end": "00:39:13", "text": "whatever. What does she think it is now?"}, {"start": "00:39:14", "end": "00:39:18", "text": "What do you think it is now?"}, {"start": "00:39:16", "end": "00:39:22", "text": "Well, I always think about aliens that"}, {"start": "00:39:18", "end": "00:39:25", "text": "they exist somewhere. Uh-huh. And they"}, {"start": "00:39:22", "end": "00:39:27", "text": "they watching us like the whole world."}, {"start": "00:39:25", "end": "00:39:29", "text": "Uh-huh. Okay."}, {"start": "00:39:27", "end": "00:39:31", "text": "That's my opinion. So. Okay. All right,"}, {"start": "00:39:29", "end": "00:39:33", "text": "we'll talk about it more when I get"}, {"start": "00:39:31", "end": "00:39:33", "text": "back."}, {"start": "00:39:33", "end": "00:39:34", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:39:33", "end": "00:39:38", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:39:34", "end": "00:39:38", "text": "Love you, Mom. Love you, Mom. Bye."}, {"start": "00:39:39", "end": "00:39:42", "text": "She seemed great. Yeah. That's awesome."}, {"start": "00:39:41", "end": "00:39:44", "text": "That's a crazy story."}, {"start": "00:39:42", "end": "00:39:45", "text": ">> Yeah. Did you see what I just said?"}, {"start": "00:39:44", "end": "00:39:49", "text": ">> What did you see? Dude, I just I was"}, {"start": "00:39:45", "end": "00:39:50", "text": "like 1982 green cloud UFO."}, {"start": "00:39:49", "end": "00:39:51", "text": ">> Uh-huh. Bro. There's a freaking"}, {"start": "00:39:50", "end": "00:39:53", "text": "sighting."}, {"start": "00:39:51", "end": "00:39:54", "text": ">> Really? Like a flight with a radar blip"}, {"start": "00:39:53", "end": "00:39:55", "text": "like a ton of people saw it. It's a"}, {"start": "00:39:54", "end": "00:39:56", "text": "thing."}, {"start": "00:39:55", "end": "00:39:57", "text": ">> ahead and read it. Okay, this is I'm"}, {"start": "00:39:56", "end": "00:39:59", "text": "going to"}, {"start": "00:39:57", "end": "00:40:01", "text": "I haven't had time to like proof all of"}, {"start": "00:39:59", "end": "00:40:02", "text": "this. This is um"}, {"start": "00:40:01", "end": "00:40:06", "text": "where am I? I'm on the New York Times. A"}, {"start": "00:40:02", "end": "00:40:08", "text": "green cloud adds to Soviet UFO lore. Um"}, {"start": "00:40:06", "end": "00:40:09", "text": "witnesses say it at first appeared as a"}, {"start": "00:40:08", "end": "00:40:11", "text": "yellow light then a white ray then it"}, {"start": "00:40:09", "end": "00:40:12", "text": "became a green cloud that turned into"}, {"start": "00:40:11", "end": "00:40:15", "text": "something resembling a plane. It was the"}, {"start": "00:40:12", "end": "00:40:16", "text": "latest example of a phenomenon that has"}, {"start": "00:40:15", "end": "00:40:19", "text": "caught Russians imagination sightings"}, {"start": "00:40:16", "end": "00:40:20", "text": "and unidentified and unidentified flying"}, {"start": "00:40:19", "end": "00:40:22", "text": "objects. The witnesses were the"}, {"start": "00:40:20", "end": "00:40:25", "text": "passengers and crew of Aeroflight 8352"}, {"start": "00:40:22", "end": "00:40:27", "text": "on a night flight from Rostov to Tallinn"}, {"start": "00:40:25", "end": "00:40:30", "text": "and ground controllers who had seen"}, {"start": "00:40:27", "end": "00:40:31", "text": "unexplained blips on a radar screen. And"}, {"start": "00:40:30", "end": "00:40:33", "text": "their audience was a member of the"}, {"start": "00:40:31", "end": "00:40:34", "text": "Academy of Sciences who solemnly"}, {"start": "00:40:33", "end": "00:40:37", "text": "declared that the sighting must have"}, {"start": "00:40:34", "end": "00:40:39", "text": "been what we call a UFO. That's spooky."}, {"start": "00:40:37", "end": "00:40:42", "text": "The fact that I I just remembered that"}, {"start": "00:40:39", "end": "00:40:43", "text": "in real time and I you know, she wasn't"}, {"start": "00:40:42", "end": "00:40:45", "text": "expecting my call."}, {"start": "00:40:43", "end": "00:40:47", "text": ">> that was crazy impressive that What"}, {"start": "00:40:45", "end": "00:40:47", "text": "what? I speak Russian as my first"}, {"start": "00:40:47", "end": "00:40:48", "text": "language."}, {"start": "00:40:47", "end": "00:40:49", "text": ">> That's insane."}, {"start": "00:40:48", "end": "00:40:50", "text": ">> I love it. That was the first time"}, {"start": "00:40:49", "end": "00:40:52", "text": "Russian has ever has been spoken on the"}, {"start": "00:40:50", "end": "00:40:53", "text": "podcast. I'm going to caption something"}, {"start": "00:40:52", "end": "00:40:55", "text": "other than [laughter] what was being"}, {"start": "00:40:53", "end": "00:40:57", "text": "said."}, {"start": "00:40:55", "end": "00:40:58", "text": "We'll make up our own captions. Hey Mom,"}, {"start": "00:40:57", "end": "00:40:59", "text": "what's your snickerdoodle recipe?"}, {"start": "00:40:58", "end": "00:41:01", "text": "[laughter]"}, {"start": "00:40:59", "end": "00:41:02", "text": "I'm on this podcast with these weird"}, {"start": "00:41:01", "end": "00:41:03", "text": "Floridian dudes."}, {"start": "00:41:02", "end": "00:41:04", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:41:03", "end": "00:41:06", "text": ">> That's a trip. Well, this is crazy."}, {"start": "00:41:04", "end": "00:41:09", "text": "There I saw this story. I don't know"}, {"start": "00:41:06", "end": "00:41:11", "text": "where it was. I watched this story about"}, {"start": "00:41:09", "end": "00:41:13", "text": "there's a phenomenon like that in"}, {"start": "00:41:11", "end": "00:41:15", "text": "Russia."}, {"start": "00:41:13", "end": "00:41:16", "text": "Um it I think it was like earlier than"}, {"start": "00:41:15", "end": "00:41:17", "text": "that though. It was like the '50s or"}, {"start": "00:41:16", "end": "00:41:19", "text": "'60s."}, {"start": "00:41:17", "end": "00:41:21", "text": "But there was this cloud. I think it was"}, {"start": "00:41:19", "end": "00:41:24", "text": "wild files actually. But there's a cloud"}, {"start": "00:41:21", "end": "00:41:25", "text": "that would descend and like people were"}, {"start": "00:41:24", "end": "00:41:27", "text": "like, \"What the heck?\" And like they"}, {"start": "00:41:25", "end": "00:41:28", "text": "would like start shooting at it. And it"}, {"start": "00:41:27", "end": "00:41:30", "text": "would like overtake them."}, {"start": "00:41:28", "end": "00:41:32", "text": ">> Whoa. Typically green or just like a"}, {"start": "00:41:30", "end": "00:41:34", "text": "different colored cloud."}, {"start": "00:41:32", "end": "00:41:35", "text": "And everything stopped."}, {"start": "00:41:34", "end": "00:41:39", "text": "And so they would be looking around and"}, {"start": "00:41:35", "end": "00:41:41", "text": "everyone just like basically frozen. And"}, {"start": "00:41:39", "end": "00:41:43", "text": "when they would come out of it, I mean,"}, {"start": "00:41:41", "end": "00:41:46", "text": "hours had passed. So it was like some"}, {"start": "00:41:43", "end": "00:41:47", "text": "sort of like time dilation"}, {"start": "00:41:46", "end": "00:41:49", "text": "overtaking them. It goes back to the"}, {"start": "00:41:47", "end": "00:41:51", "text": "bubble thing that Bob Lazar talked"}, {"start": "00:41:49", "end": "00:41:52", "text": "about. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:41:51", "end": "00:41:54", "text": ">> Just like how everything would stop."}, {"start": "00:41:52", "end": "00:41:55", "text": "Yeah. I'm just tripping out that like to"}, {"start": "00:41:54", "end": "00:41:57", "text": "her it's like, \"Yeah, that was a thing"}, {"start": "00:41:55", "end": "00:41:58", "text": "that happened.\" And then we look it up"}, {"start": "00:41:57", "end": "00:41:59", "text": "and then it's like"}, {"start": "00:41:58", "end": "00:42:01", "text": ">> That's that's spooky."}, {"start": "00:41:59", "end": "00:42:03", "text": ">> cuz she wasn't trying to tell us that"}, {"start": "00:42:01", "end": "00:42:04", "text": "story today. She just told it as a"}, {"start": "00:42:03", "end": "00:42:06", "text": "family story."}, {"start": "00:42:04", "end": "00:42:08", "text": ">> Yeah. Down to the year and location."}, {"start": "00:42:06", "end": "00:42:12", "text": "Either either it's super weird or he is"}, {"start": "00:42:08", "end": "00:42:13", "text": "a freaking genius at planning and"}, {"start": "00:42:12", "end": "00:42:16", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:42:13", "end": "00:42:17", "text": ">> That lady's a wonderful actress."}, {"start": "00:42:16", "end": "00:42:19", "text": "No, I I What a set up, dude."}, {"start": "00:42:17", "end": "00:42:21", "text": ">> bad even calling her cuz I didn't see"}, {"start": "00:42:19", "end": "00:42:22", "text": "her on Mother's Day. I was in LA. So, I"}, {"start": "00:42:21", "end": "00:42:23", "text": "texted her like, \"Hey, happy Mother's"}, {"start": "00:42:22", "end": "00:42:25", "text": "Day. Let me know when you want to come"}, {"start": "00:42:23", "end": "00:42:26", "text": "by and get your gift.\""}, {"start": "00:42:25", "end": "00:42:28", "text": "Some pump she picked up. I'm going to"}, {"start": "00:42:26", "end": "00:42:30", "text": "have to do a little research into cuz"}, {"start": "00:42:28", "end": "00:42:32", "text": "apparently it was more than just that"}, {"start": "00:42:30", "end": "00:42:33", "text": "plane. Like it it was like a green cloud"}, {"start": "00:42:32", "end": "00:42:35", "text": "was a thing."}, {"start": "00:42:33", "end": "00:42:36", "text": ">> What a trip. Yeah. Yes."}, {"start": "00:42:35", "end": "00:42:38", "text": ">> It just make instantly made me think of"}, {"start": "00:42:36", "end": "00:42:40", "text": "Exodus, you know, like the fire cloud,"}, {"start": "00:42:38", "end": "00:42:42", "text": "like you know, how like like so how"}, {"start": "00:42:40", "end": "00:42:44", "text": "people mimic what God does."}, {"start": "00:42:42", "end": "00:42:44", "text": ">> Well, here we Here we go."}, {"start": "00:42:44", "end": "00:42:45", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:42:44", "end": "00:42:49", "text": ">> Let's talk about clouds and time"}, {"start": "00:42:45", "end": "00:42:50", "text": "dilation real quick. Time manipulation."}, {"start": "00:42:49", "end": "00:42:53", "text": "That theory that we talked about where"}, {"start": "00:42:50", "end": "00:42:55", "text": "Jesus was on the mount, the cloud"}, {"start": "00:42:53", "end": "00:42:57", "text": "surrounded him, speaking with Moses and"}, {"start": "00:42:55", "end": "00:42:58", "text": "Elijah."}, {"start": "00:42:57", "end": "00:43:00", "text": "The theory that we talked about was that"}, {"start": "00:42:58", "end": "00:43:01", "text": "he was actually speaking to them in"}, {"start": "00:43:00", "end": "00:43:02", "text": "their time."}, {"start": "00:43:01", "end": "00:43:03", "text": ">> Woo!"}, {"start": "00:43:02", "end": "00:43:04", "text": "That's good. Have you ever heard that"}, {"start": "00:43:03", "end": "00:43:06", "text": "one, dude? That's crazy. I've never"}, {"start": "00:43:04", "end": "00:43:08", "text": "heard of that before. That's amazing."}, {"start": "00:43:06", "end": "00:43:09", "text": ">> it wasn't like they like came back from"}, {"start": "00:43:08", "end": "00:43:11", "text": "Abraham's bosom or like whatever. It's"}, {"start": "00:43:09", "end": "00:43:13", "text": "like they were there. Uh-huh. Like so"}, {"start": "00:43:11", "end": "00:43:15", "text": "when cuz cuz they had an encounter."}, {"start": "00:43:13", "end": "00:43:17", "text": "Because Moses, he talked about He was on"}, {"start": "00:43:15", "end": "00:43:21", "text": "Mount Sinai when the cloud, you know,"}, {"start": "00:43:17", "end": "00:43:23", "text": "encompassed the mount. Um um Elijah on"}, {"start": "00:43:21", "end": "00:43:25", "text": "Mount Carmel, right? Was it Mount Carmel"}, {"start": "00:43:23", "end": "00:43:27", "text": "that he was on when he I remember he was"}, {"start": "00:43:25", "end": "00:43:29", "text": "on a mountain. I don't No, that was"}, {"start": "00:43:27", "end": "00:43:29", "text": "Mount Carmel was the the sacrifice and"}, {"start": "00:43:29", "end": "00:43:30", "text": "offering."}, {"start": "00:43:29", "end": "00:43:33", "text": ">> Was it? Okay. Well, what He was on a"}, {"start": "00:43:30", "end": "00:43:35", "text": "mountain. Herman? But no, it's weird"}, {"start": "00:43:33", "end": "00:43:37", "text": "though is that they claim that Mount"}, {"start": "00:43:35", "end": "00:43:40", "text": "Sinai is not the Mount Sinai"}, {"start": "00:43:37", "end": "00:43:41", "text": "that the monastery is built at. Mhm."}, {"start": "00:43:40", "end": "00:43:42", "text": "It's a different mountain that's like"}, {"start": "00:43:41", "end": "00:43:45", "text": "scorched at the top."}, {"start": "00:43:42", "end": "00:43:46", "text": ">> Mhm. But Elijah's cave is right by Mount"}, {"start": "00:43:45", "end": "00:43:50", "text": "Sinai. Mhm."}, {"start": "00:43:46", "end": "00:43:53", "text": ">> So, it makes you wonder if it's the same"}, {"start": "00:43:50", "end": "00:43:53", "text": "Yeah. time dilation cloud."}, {"start": "00:43:53", "end": "00:43:55", "text": ">> All right."}, {"start": "00:43:53", "end": "00:43:58", "text": ">> Cuz God is outside of time. Jesus is"}, {"start": "00:43:55", "end": "00:44:01", "text": "God. He literally opened a portal and"}, {"start": "00:43:58", "end": "00:44:02", "text": "had that commune What a trip."}, {"start": "00:44:01", "end": "00:44:04", "text": ">> with the little like the heroes of the"}, {"start": "00:44:02", "end": "00:44:05", "text": "faith, dude. Like"}, {"start": "00:44:04", "end": "00:44:05", "text": ">> thinking like I have to have three"}, {"start": "00:44:05", "end": "00:44:07", "text": "meetings."}, {"start": "00:44:05", "end": "00:44:08", "text": ">> Oh, dude. I have to have three meetings"}, {"start": "00:44:07", "end": "00:44:08", "text": "with three different guys."}, {"start": "00:44:08", "end": "00:44:10", "text": ">> you could knock them out at once."}, {"start": "00:44:08", "end": "00:44:12", "text": ">> Like let's let's just all let's just do"}, {"start": "00:44:10", "end": "00:44:12", "text": "all together. Come on, let's make it"}, {"start": "00:44:12", "end": "00:44:15", "text": "efficient."}, {"start": "00:44:12", "end": "00:44:18", "text": ">> It's the literal cloud of witnesses."}, {"start": "00:44:15", "end": "00:44:20", "text": "Mhm. Oh. Yeah. So, the"}, {"start": "00:44:18", "end": "00:44:22", "text": "inverse of that or the the opposite,"}, {"start": "00:44:20", "end": "00:44:24", "text": "this cloud this demonic cloud that also"}, {"start": "00:44:22", "end": "00:44:25", "text": "there's some like The cloud of"}, {"start": "00:44:24", "end": "00:44:26", "text": "witnesses."}, {"start": "00:44:25", "end": "00:44:27", "text": ">> We're like we're scatterbrained right"}, {"start": "00:44:26", "end": "00:44:29", "text": "now. Let's let's let's bring it"}, {"start": "00:44:27", "end": "00:44:31", "text": "[laughter] in. No, dude. I've had too"}, {"start": "00:44:29", "end": "00:44:34", "text": "much Red Bull. We're filming late."}, {"start": "00:44:31", "end": "00:44:35", "text": "Like if that is not necessarily like We"}, {"start": "00:44:34", "end": "00:44:36", "text": "would"}, {"start": "00:44:35", "end": "00:44:39", "text": ">> call it like a technology"}, {"start": "00:44:36", "end": "00:44:42", "text": ">> Yeah. but like a spiritual power cuz"}, {"start": "00:44:39", "end": "00:44:44", "text": "that's I mean a lot of alien abductions,"}, {"start": "00:44:42", "end": "00:44:47", "text": "they talk about missing time. Where"}, {"start": "00:44:44", "end": "00:44:49", "text": "they're on this craft and then they're"}, {"start": "00:44:47", "end": "00:44:51", "text": "like, \"I thought I was on there for like"}, {"start": "00:44:49", "end": "00:44:53", "text": "maybe 5 minutes.\" It was"}, {"start": "00:44:51", "end": "00:44:54", "text": "what's-his-face, um"}, {"start": "00:44:53", "end": "00:44:56", "text": "The Barney Hills? Not Betty and Barney."}, {"start": "00:44:54", "end": "00:44:59", "text": ">> That that was their story, too. But the"}, {"start": "00:44:56", "end": "00:45:01", "text": "guy that mustache, he was a logger, got"}, {"start": "00:44:59", "end": "00:45:02", "text": "taken up. He thought he was only gone"}, {"start": "00:45:01", "end": "00:45:04", "text": "for like maybe an hour or something, but"}, {"start": "00:45:02", "end": "00:45:05", "text": "he was gone for 5 days."}, {"start": "00:45:04", "end": "00:45:06", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:45:05", "end": "00:45:07", "text": "So, there's something with time."}, {"start": "00:45:06", "end": "00:45:09", "text": ">> Something time, yeah. Distortion of"}, {"start": "00:45:07", "end": "00:45:10", "text": "time. What a trip. Wow."}, {"start": "00:45:09", "end": "00:45:13", "text": ">> And it keeps happening. It's it's a"}, {"start": "00:45:10", "end": "00:45:14", "text": "common theme for people who don't even"}, {"start": "00:45:13", "end": "00:45:16", "text": "know each other's stories. So, it is"}, {"start": "00:45:14", "end": "00:45:18", "text": "very interesting. It's got to It's got"}, {"start": "00:45:16", "end": "00:45:19", "text": "to be have a part of it. And that's why"}, {"start": "00:45:18", "end": "00:45:21", "text": "I think"}, {"start": "00:45:19", "end": "00:45:24", "text": "full circle"}, {"start": "00:45:21", "end": "00:45:25", "text": "I think blurry creatures, they they're"}, {"start": "00:45:24", "end": "00:45:29", "text": "going to hate me for saying this. But I"}, {"start": "00:45:25", "end": "00:45:30", "text": "really think that aliens, it's a demonic"}, {"start": "00:45:29", "end": "00:45:33", "text": "and demonic's just a broad term, I"}, {"start": "00:45:30", "end": "00:45:34", "text": "think, for entities that we don't even"}, {"start": "00:45:33", "end": "00:45:36", "text": "know about. But"}, {"start": "00:45:34", "end": "00:45:36", "text": "dark, sinister"}, {"start": "00:45:36", "end": "00:45:38", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:45:36", "end": "00:45:39", "text": "not good."}, {"start": "00:45:38", "end": "00:45:41", "text": "Yeah. I think angels would work"}, {"start": "00:45:39", "end": "00:45:43", "text": "differently, right? I think they just"}, {"start": "00:45:41", "end": "00:45:45", "text": "work differently. Like they would they"}, {"start": "00:45:43", "end": "00:45:46", "text": "would want to be. Yeah. They want to"}, {"start": "00:45:45", "end": "00:45:48", "text": "differentiate themselves."}, {"start": "00:45:46", "end": "00:45:50", "text": ">> because like"}, {"start": "00:45:48", "end": "00:45:51", "text": "I just I've been like super deep into"}, {"start": "00:45:50", "end": "00:45:53", "text": "like studying church history and like"}, {"start": "00:45:51", "end": "00:45:56", "text": "the stories of these desert fathers and"}, {"start": "00:45:53", "end": "00:45:57", "text": "stuff and their interactions with like"}, {"start": "00:45:56", "end": "00:46:00", "text": "demons and the demonic. And I just read"}, {"start": "00:45:57", "end": "00:46:01", "text": "that book about Saint Anthony the Great."}, {"start": "00:46:00", "end": "00:46:03", "text": "And he basically"}, {"start": "00:46:01", "end": "00:46:05", "text": "What's the difference between like"}, {"start": "00:46:03", "end": "00:46:07", "text": "angels and demons? Like if an angel's"}, {"start": "00:46:05", "end": "00:46:09", "text": "talking to you, if there's a if there's"}, {"start": "00:46:07", "end": "00:46:11", "text": "an aspect of fear cuz you're just like,"}, {"start": "00:46:09", "end": "00:46:14", "text": "\"What the heck is going on?\" But like if"}, {"start": "00:46:11", "end": "00:46:16", "text": "there's an instant comforting of just"}, {"start": "00:46:14", "end": "00:46:18", "text": "like, \"Do not fear. I am sent from the"}, {"start": "00:46:16", "end": "00:46:20", "text": "Lord.\" Like blah blah blah blah blah,"}, {"start": "00:46:18", "end": "00:46:22", "text": "you know that's an angel. And if it's if"}, {"start": "00:46:20", "end": "00:46:24", "text": "they"}, {"start": "00:46:22", "end": "00:46:28", "text": "sense your fear and prey on your fear"}, {"start": "00:46:24", "end": "00:46:30", "text": "and incite more fear, clearly demonic."}, {"start": "00:46:28", "end": "00:46:32", "text": "And so it's like you read these by these"}, {"start": "00:46:30", "end": "00:46:33", "text": "alien abductions or watch them, listen"}, {"start": "00:46:32", "end": "00:46:36", "text": "to them,"}, {"start": "00:46:33", "end": "00:46:38", "text": "it's all fear-based. Like I you rarely"}, {"start": "00:46:36", "end": "00:46:40", "text": "hear an alien abduction where it's like,"}, {"start": "00:46:38", "end": "00:46:42", "text": "\"It was just so comforting and like they"}, {"start": "00:46:40", "end": "00:46:44", "text": "were so loving and like"}, {"start": "00:46:42", "end": "00:46:46", "text": "there's always a fear aspect to it and"}, {"start": "00:46:44", "end": "00:46:47", "text": "like praying on the your fears and"}, {"start": "00:46:46", "end": "00:46:49", "text": ">> Yeah, and that's the difference because"}, {"start": "00:46:47", "end": "00:46:51", "text": "every time that someone interacts with"}, {"start": "00:46:49", "end": "00:46:53", "text": "an angel in the Bible, most of the time,"}, {"start": "00:46:51", "end": "00:46:54", "text": "every interaction, I'm I'm saying most"}, {"start": "00:46:53", "end": "00:46:56", "text": "because I don't know, but every time"}, {"start": "00:46:54", "end": "00:46:57", "text": "I've read about that I can recall, the"}, {"start": "00:46:56", "end": "00:46:58", "text": "first thing they say is, \"Don't be"}, {"start": "00:46:57", "end": "00:47:00", "text": "afraid.\""}, {"start": "00:46:58", "end": "00:47:02", "text": "\"Don't be afraid.\" They try to nip that"}, {"start": "00:47:00", "end": "00:47:03", "text": "in the bud immediately."}, {"start": "00:47:02", "end": "00:47:05", "text": ">> Yeah. So the fact that they would we"}, {"start": "00:47:03", "end": "00:47:07", "text": "would we would linger on it and it"}, {"start": "00:47:05", "end": "00:47:09", "text": "wouldn't just be a constant thing that"}, {"start": "00:47:07", "end": "00:47:11", "text": "we live in. But then there's also like"}, {"start": "00:47:09", "end": "00:47:13", "text": "the deception side of it, too,"}, {"start": "00:47:11", "end": "00:47:14", "text": "where like people have these encounters"}, {"start": "00:47:13", "end": "00:47:17", "text": "and they say like they just feel this"}, {"start": "00:47:14", "end": "00:47:19", "text": "overwhelming like feeling of love and"}, {"start": "00:47:17", "end": "00:47:20", "text": "warmth. And then you like look into the"}, {"start": "00:47:19", "end": "00:47:21", "text": "stories and you're like, \"I don't know"}, {"start": "00:47:20", "end": "00:47:24", "text": "that this is a good thing.\" Like"}, {"start": "00:47:21", "end": "00:47:26", "text": "discernment starts to like kick up. So"}, {"start": "00:47:24", "end": "00:47:27", "text": "it's like I don't know. It's hard to"}, {"start": "00:47:26", "end": "00:47:30", "text": "It's hard to say either way. But to the"}, {"start": "00:47:27", "end": "00:47:32", "text": "point you're making, like are aliens"}, {"start": "00:47:30", "end": "00:47:34", "text": "demons? I think when people have"}, {"start": "00:47:32", "end": "00:47:36", "text": "encounters with stuff, like we would"}, {"start": "00:47:34", "end": "00:47:38", "text": "call it alien flat out just cuz that's"}, {"start": "00:47:36", "end": "00:47:41", "text": "the word we use. But then there needs to"}, {"start": "00:47:38", "end": "00:47:43", "text": "be discernment and discretion if one of"}, {"start": "00:47:41", "end": "00:47:45", "text": "these things was to actually exist. To"}, {"start": "00:47:43", "end": "00:47:48", "text": "your point, like where you actually"}, {"start": "00:47:45", "end": "00:47:50", "text": "from? Like God does use messengers. You"}, {"start": "00:47:48", "end": "00:47:51", "text": "know, like I don't know what that looks"}, {"start": "00:47:50", "end": "00:47:52", "text": "like in every situation. So there's a"}, {"start": "00:47:51", "end": "00:47:54", "text": "chance like you're really going to"}, {"start": "00:47:52", "end": "00:47:56", "text": "encounter something that to you is"}, {"start": "00:47:54", "end": "00:47:58", "text": "alien, but in the context of biblical"}, {"start": "00:47:56", "end": "00:48:00", "text": "history, you're interacting with a"}, {"start": "00:47:58", "end": "00:48:03", "text": "messenger. Yeah. And that doesn't"}, {"start": "00:48:00", "end": "00:48:05", "text": "necessarily have to be demonic or evil."}, {"start": "00:48:03", "end": "00:48:07", "text": "But then you get, you know, it can get"}, {"start": "00:48:05", "end": "00:48:08", "text": "culty real fast with those encounters."}, {"start": "00:48:07", "end": "00:48:10", "text": "It just seems that there's more and more"}, {"start": "00:48:08", "end": "00:48:14", "text": "people that are becoming more open to"}, {"start": "00:48:10", "end": "00:48:17", "text": "not them not 100% being demonic Mhm. and"}, {"start": "00:48:14", "end": "00:48:19", "text": "that cherubim and these other types of"}, {"start": "00:48:17", "end": "00:48:20", "text": "angels. And I think I want to say I"}, {"start": "00:48:19", "end": "00:48:23", "text": "think that's the blurry creatures"}, {"start": "00:48:20", "end": "00:48:26", "text": "position on it is like there could be"}, {"start": "00:48:23", "end": "00:48:27", "text": "the Old Testament crazy-looking angels"}, {"start": "00:48:26", "end": "00:48:29", "text": "that are described."}, {"start": "00:48:27", "end": "00:48:30", "text": ">> could side with that a little bit, too."}, {"start": "00:48:29", "end": "00:48:32", "text": "But like"}, {"start": "00:48:30", "end": "00:48:34", "text": "especially when it comes to you hear"}, {"start": "00:48:32", "end": "00:48:36", "text": "more of the when people interact with"}, {"start": "00:48:34", "end": "00:48:38", "text": "these things, there's deception and fear"}, {"start": "00:48:36", "end": "00:48:40", "text": "and how they they even talk about"}, {"start": "00:48:38", "end": "00:48:43", "text": "themselves. A lot of the uh people that"}, {"start": "00:48:40", "end": "00:48:45", "text": "are abducted abducted by aliens, it is"}, {"start": "00:48:43", "end": "00:48:47", "text": "like almost parallel to people that go"}, {"start": "00:48:45", "end": "00:48:48", "text": "through satanic ritual abuse. Mhm. Like"}, {"start": "00:48:47", "end": "00:48:50", "text": "it's almost dead on."}, {"start": "00:48:48", "end": "00:48:51", "text": ">> Mhm. And so it's like, well, there's"}, {"start": "00:48:50", "end": "00:48:53", "text": "something there, you know? Like that's"}, {"start": "00:48:51", "end": "00:48:55", "text": "not just a coincidence."}, {"start": "00:48:53", "end": "00:48:57", "text": ">> Yep. Yep. But I think is it fair to say"}, {"start": "00:48:55", "end": "00:48:59", "text": "that it's unanimously agreed upon that"}, {"start": "00:48:57", "end": "00:49:01", "text": "they're not coming from another galaxy,"}, {"start": "00:48:59", "end": "00:49:02", "text": "that these are not beings I think they"}, {"start": "00:49:01", "end": "00:49:03", "text": "would say that."}, {"start": "00:49:02", "end": "00:49:06", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah, cuz I cuz I cuz I went down"}, {"start": "00:49:03", "end": "00:49:08", "text": "that rabbit hole and discovered is it"}, {"start": "00:49:06", "end": "00:49:09", "text": "Einstein's theory of relativity or"}, {"start": "00:49:08", "end": "00:49:12", "text": "whatever that you can't go faster than"}, {"start": "00:49:09", "end": "00:49:14", "text": "the speed of light and that the closest"}, {"start": "00:49:12", "end": "00:49:16", "text": "galaxy to us is hundreds of millions of"}, {"start": "00:49:14", "end": "00:49:18", "text": "light years away. So in order for them"}, {"start": "00:49:16", "end": "00:49:20", "text": "to if it was actually physical beings"}, {"start": "00:49:18", "end": "00:49:22", "text": "coming from another galaxy, they would"}, {"start": "00:49:20", "end": "00:49:25", "text": "have to be billions of years old, have"}, {"start": "00:49:22", "end": "00:49:26", "text": "to go faster than the speed of light,"}, {"start": "00:49:25", "end": "00:49:29", "text": "would have to have an infinite amount of"}, {"start": "00:49:26", "end": "00:49:33", "text": "fuel or something. Yeah. And just going"}, {"start": "00:49:29", "end": "00:49:34", "text": "that fast, the the the crafts break down"}, {"start": "00:49:33", "end": "00:49:36", "text": "because of how much uh"}, {"start": "00:49:34", "end": "00:49:37", "text": "space rocks there are."}, {"start": "00:49:36", "end": "00:49:38", "text": ">> Yeah. And so like when I went down that"}, {"start": "00:49:37", "end": "00:49:40", "text": "rabbit hole, I was like, oh, okay, yes,"}, {"start": "00:49:38", "end": "00:49:42", "text": "probably unlikely this is coming from"}, {"start": "00:49:40", "end": "00:49:45", "text": "another galaxy. So therefore they have"}, {"start": "00:49:42", "end": "00:49:47", "text": "to be interdimensional and coming from"}, {"start": "00:49:45", "end": "00:49:48", "text": "another dimension. Yeah. But I mean then"}, {"start": "00:49:47", "end": "00:49:51", "text": "you could probably argue, well, there is"}, {"start": "00:49:48", "end": "00:49:53", "text": "something to that technology which"}, {"start": "00:49:51", "end": "00:49:53", "text": "manipulates time in some sense."}, {"start": "00:49:53", "end": "00:49:56", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:49:53", "end": "00:49:57", "text": ">> Like they almost like exit time on"}, {"start": "00:49:56", "end": "00:49:59", "text": "Earth."}, {"start": "00:49:57", "end": "00:50:00", "text": ">> Mhm. So like which I I saw this Tik Tok"}, {"start": "00:49:59", "end": "00:50:02", "text": "the other day and it like about gave me"}, {"start": "00:50:00", "end": "00:50:04", "text": "a panic attack [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:50:02", "end": "00:50:05", "text": "talking about just time and like time is"}, {"start": "00:50:04", "end": "00:50:07", "text": "nothing."}, {"start": "00:50:05", "end": "00:50:08", "text": ">> Mhm. It's like if there's a black hole,"}, {"start": "00:50:07", "end": "00:50:12", "text": "if you go towards the center of that"}, {"start": "00:50:08", "end": "00:50:14", "text": "black hole, time is basically stopped."}, {"start": "00:50:12", "end": "00:50:16", "text": ">> Mhm. Like there's no time"}, {"start": "00:50:14", "end": "00:50:17", "text": ">> Oof. in that. But it the further way you"}, {"start": "00:50:16", "end": "00:50:19", "text": "are from the black hole, there's time."}, {"start": "00:50:17", "end": "00:50:20", "text": ">> Yeah. And so it's like I mean it's like"}, {"start": "00:50:19", "end": "00:50:22", "text": "Interstellar, right? That's like the"}, {"start": "00:50:20", "end": "00:50:24", "text": "concept they go to this planet and every"}, {"start": "00:50:22", "end": "00:50:25", "text": "minute is like 7 years or something like"}, {"start": "00:50:24", "end": "00:50:27", "text": "that."}, {"start": "00:50:25", "end": "00:50:27", "text": ">> Yeah. Like that's a real that's what"}, {"start": "00:50:27", "end": "00:50:28", "text": "really happens."}, {"start": "00:50:27", "end": "00:50:29", "text": ">> possibility you're saying."}, {"start": "00:50:28", "end": "00:50:31", "text": ">> yeah."}, {"start": "00:50:29", "end": "00:50:33", "text": ">> of the wormholes and the black holes."}, {"start": "00:50:31", "end": "00:50:34", "text": "Yeah. And we have And we have to it's"}, {"start": "00:50:33", "end": "00:50:36", "text": "hard to separate ourselves from what we"}, {"start": "00:50:34", "end": "00:50:38", "text": "already know as far as like time, you"}, {"start": "00:50:36", "end": "00:50:40", "text": "know, cuz if time doesn't exist, maybe"}, {"start": "00:50:38", "end": "00:50:42", "text": "fuel in the way we think doesn't exist."}, {"start": "00:50:40", "end": "00:50:44", "text": "So physical matter doesn't exist the way"}, {"start": "00:50:42", "end": "00:50:47", "text": "we think it exists. So it's like who"}, {"start": "00:50:44", "end": "00:50:49", "text": "knows? Like who truly knows what it's"}, {"start": "00:50:47", "end": "00:50:50", "text": "like out there? I start tripping up."}, {"start": "00:50:49", "end": "00:50:53", "text": "Like does time exist if there's nothing"}, {"start": "00:50:50", "end": "00:50:55", "text": "there to perceive the passing of it?"}, {"start": "00:50:53", "end": "00:50:55", "text": "Yeah. Like Well, if a tree falls in the"}, {"start": "00:50:55", "end": "00:50:56", "text": "middle of the"}, {"start": "00:50:55", "end": "00:50:58", "text": ">> yeah, you start asking those questions"}, {"start": "00:50:56", "end": "00:51:00", "text": "[laughter] though cuz like No one hears"}, {"start": "00:50:58", "end": "00:51:01", "text": ">> in Interstellar like time changes but"}, {"start": "00:51:00", "end": "00:51:03", "text": "his heart beats at the same rate."}, {"start": "00:51:01", "end": "00:51:04", "text": ">> Uh-huh. So like what it it's not a BPM"}, {"start": "00:51:03", "end": "00:51:05", "text": "anymore. It's"}, {"start": "00:51:04", "end": "00:51:07", "text": ">> has such a sad ending."}, {"start": "00:51:05", "end": "00:51:09", "text": ">> I know. I hate it. It's It ruined me."}, {"start": "00:51:07", "end": "00:51:10", "text": "It's mid."}, {"start": "00:51:09", "end": "00:51:12", "text": "Don't leave him, Murph."}, {"start": "00:51:10", "end": "00:51:14", "text": "I can't. I can't. It's hard. It's a hard"}, {"start": "00:51:12", "end": "00:51:16", "text": "watch. This reminded me I saw this story"}, {"start": "00:51:14", "end": "00:51:18", "text": "today and I thought it was really cool"}, {"start": "00:51:16", "end": "00:51:20", "text": "connected I'm just connecting it to"}, {"start": "00:51:18", "end": "00:51:24", "text": "alien abductions but like one of the"}, {"start": "00:51:20", "end": "00:51:26", "text": "earliest ones. Okay. 700 AD"}, {"start": "00:51:24", "end": "00:51:28", "text": "John the Abbot"}, {"start": "00:51:26", "end": "00:51:30", "text": "Mhm. was his name."}, {"start": "00:51:28", "end": "00:51:31", "text": "Um it's not really an alien abduction"}, {"start": "00:51:30", "end": "00:51:33", "text": "but it it kind of I feel like it"}, {"start": "00:51:31", "end": "00:51:36", "text": "parallels a little bit cuz it's spooky."}, {"start": "00:51:33", "end": "00:51:38", "text": ">> we can make it that. Um so John the"}, {"start": "00:51:36", "end": "00:51:40", "text": "Abbot was from Ravenna"}, {"start": "00:51:38", "end": "00:51:43", "text": "and uh he had a monastery there and it"}, {"start": "00:51:40", "end": "00:51:45", "text": "burnt down and all these land grabbers"}, {"start": "00:51:43", "end": "00:51:47", "text": "were like, \"Okay, now we're going to"}, {"start": "00:51:45", "end": "00:51:49", "text": "overtake your monastery land.\""}, {"start": "00:51:47", "end": "00:51:51", "text": "And so he's like, \"No, I got to go get"}, {"start": "00:51:49", "end": "00:51:54", "text": "the um just basically help from the"}, {"start": "00:51:51", "end": "00:51:56", "text": "emperor of Constantinople.\""}, {"start": "00:51:54", "end": "00:51:59", "text": "And so he went to Constantinople, he"}, {"start": "00:51:56", "end": "00:52:01", "text": "traveled, and basically went to the"}, {"start": "00:51:59", "end": "00:52:02", "text": "emperor. The emperor's like, \"Okay, you"}, {"start": "00:52:01", "end": "00:52:04", "text": "can save your monastery, it's your"}, {"start": "00:52:02", "end": "00:52:05", "text": "land.\" And so he did this whole seal on"}, {"start": "00:52:04", "end": "00:52:08", "text": "a scroll thing that he was supposed to"}, {"start": "00:52:05", "end": "00:52:10", "text": "bring back to the local governor of"}, {"start": "00:52:08", "end": "00:52:11", "text": "Ravenna. Mhm."}, {"start": "00:52:10", "end": "00:52:13", "text": "And during this time,"}, {"start": "00:52:11", "end": "00:52:16", "text": "it was starting to become winter, so the"}, {"start": "00:52:13", "end": "00:52:18", "text": "storm the seas were super rough."}, {"start": "00:52:16", "end": "00:52:21", "text": "And he could not find a ship. And he had"}, {"start": "00:52:18", "end": "00:52:23", "text": "to get back to Ravenna in in a certain"}, {"start": "00:52:21", "end": "00:52:24", "text": "time frame in order for him to make the"}, {"start": "00:52:23", "end": "00:52:25", "text": "court appearance whatever."}, {"start": "00:52:24", "end": "00:52:27", "text": ">> Or they would just overtake it. Or they"}, {"start": "00:52:25", "end": "00:52:30", "text": "would overtake it."}, {"start": "00:52:27", "end": "00:52:32", "text": "And but the the sailing to Ravenna was"}, {"start": "00:52:30", "end": "00:52:34", "text": "like over a month-long journey."}, {"start": "00:52:32", "end": "00:52:35", "text": "And he's just like, \"There's no ships."}, {"start": "00:52:34", "end": "00:52:38", "text": "There's no ships. I don't know what to"}, {"start": "00:52:35", "end": "00:52:39", "text": "do.\" He would he was like like just sad"}, {"start": "00:52:38", "end": "00:52:42", "text": "and like crying. He's like, \"I don't"}, {"start": "00:52:39", "end": "00:52:45", "text": "know what to do.\" All of a sudden, three"}, {"start": "00:52:42", "end": "00:52:46", "text": "men walk up to him."}, {"start": "00:52:45", "end": "00:52:47", "text": "Weird story."}, {"start": "00:52:46", "end": "00:52:49", "text": "All dressed in black, very"}, {"start": "00:52:47", "end": "00:52:51", "text": "mysterious-looking. They said, \"John the"}, {"start": "00:52:49", "end": "00:52:52", "text": "Abbot,"}, {"start": "00:52:51", "end": "00:52:54", "text": "we see that you can't find a ship. We"}, {"start": "00:52:52", "end": "00:52:56", "text": "can help you.\""}, {"start": "00:52:54", "end": "00:52:57", "text": "And he's like, \"Okay.\""}, {"start": "00:52:56", "end": "00:52:59", "text": "And they he's like, \"We don't have a"}, {"start": "00:52:57", "end": "00:53:01", "text": "ship, but watch this.\" Then he said,"}, {"start": "00:52:59", "end": "00:53:03", "text": "\"Grab this stick,"}, {"start": "00:53:01", "end": "00:53:04", "text": "draw a ship in the sand.\""}, {"start": "00:53:03", "end": "00:53:06", "text": "And they said, \"But don't miss a detail."}, {"start": "00:53:04", "end": "00:53:08", "text": "Draw the oars, the sails, the stern,"}, {"start": "00:53:06", "end": "00:53:10", "text": "everything.\""}, {"start": "00:53:08", "end": "00:53:14", "text": "And so he draws it out, and they say,"}, {"start": "00:53:10", "end": "00:53:17", "text": "\"Lay in the middle of your drawing.\""}, {"start": "00:53:14", "end": "00:53:19", "text": "And they said, \"What's about to happen"}, {"start": "00:53:17", "end": "00:53:21", "text": "do you'll hear you'll hear noises,"}, {"start": "00:53:19", "end": "00:53:22", "text": "you'll hear storms, you'll hear people"}, {"start": "00:53:21", "end": "00:53:24", "text": "screaming."}, {"start": "00:53:22", "end": "00:53:26", "text": "Don't make a noise. Don't let anyone"}, {"start": "00:53:24", "end": "00:53:28", "text": "know that you're there, and whatever you"}, {"start": "00:53:26", "end": "00:53:30", "text": "do, don't make the sign of the cross.\""}, {"start": "00:53:28", "end": "00:53:32", "text": "Mhm."}, {"start": "00:53:30", "end": "00:53:34", "text": "And he did it."}, {"start": "00:53:32", "end": "00:53:38", "text": "And instantly when he laid down,"}, {"start": "00:53:34", "end": "00:53:39", "text": "darkness overtook him. Storm, sailors"}, {"start": "00:53:38", "end": "00:53:41", "text": "screaming."}, {"start": "00:53:39", "end": "00:53:45", "text": "And then boom,"}, {"start": "00:53:41", "end": "00:53:48", "text": "he woke up on the roof of his monastery."}, {"start": "00:53:45", "end": "00:53:50", "text": "And he's like, \"What just happened?\" And"}, {"start": "00:53:48", "end": "00:53:51", "text": "so he's calling down to his monks, \"Hey,"}, {"start": "00:53:50", "end": "00:53:53", "text": "get me down from here.\" And they're"}, {"start": "00:53:51", "end": "00:53:54", "text": "like, \"Surely this is a demon up on the"}, {"start": "00:53:53", "end": "00:53:56", "text": "roof cuz he was supposed to be in"}, {"start": "00:53:54", "end": "00:53:57", "text": "Constantinople.\""}, {"start": "00:53:56", "end": "00:53:58", "text": "And so he had to list them all by name"}, {"start": "00:53:57", "end": "00:53:59", "text": "and they're like, \"All right, here's a"}, {"start": "00:53:58", "end": "00:54:01", "text": "ladder.\""}, {"start": "00:53:59", "end": "00:54:02", "text": "He goes down, he brings the scroll to"}, {"start": "00:54:01", "end": "00:54:05", "text": "the governor."}, {"start": "00:54:02", "end": "00:54:07", "text": "He opens it and the governor goes, \"This"}, {"start": "00:54:05", "end": "00:54:09", "text": "is forgery. This was dated to"}, {"start": "00:54:07", "end": "00:54:11", "text": "yesterday.\" Mhm. \"There's no way you can"}, {"start": "00:54:09", "end": "00:54:11", "text": "sail from Constantinople to here in one"}, {"start": "00:54:11", "end": "00:54:14", "text": "day.\""}, {"start": "00:54:11", "end": "00:54:17", "text": ">> Mhm. And so he instantly went to I think"}, {"start": "00:54:14", "end": "00:54:20", "text": "it was the patriarch or the bishop or"}, {"start": "00:54:17", "end": "00:54:22", "text": "whatever um in Ravenna and basically was"}, {"start": "00:54:20", "end": "00:54:25", "text": "like, \"I basically I made a deal with"}, {"start": "00:54:22", "end": "00:54:27", "text": "demons Oof. to get here.\" And so he"}, {"start": "00:54:25", "end": "00:54:29", "text": "repented, did his penance, whatever and"}, {"start": "00:54:27", "end": "00:54:30", "text": "they said that he lived the rest of his"}, {"start": "00:54:29", "end": "00:54:32", "text": "life in peace, but I'm like, \"That"}, {"start": "00:54:30", "end": "00:54:34", "text": "sounds like an"}, {"start": "00:54:32", "end": "00:54:36", "text": "alien thing.\" Yeah. Very. Like a"}, {"start": "00:54:34", "end": "00:54:38", "text": "transportation,"}, {"start": "00:54:36", "end": "00:54:39", "text": "time disorientation, you know, like"}, {"start": "00:54:38", "end": "00:54:41", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:54:39", "end": "00:54:42", "text": "But the the whole don't make the sign of"}, {"start": "00:54:41", "end": "00:54:43", "text": "the cross. I'm just like"}, {"start": "00:54:42", "end": "00:54:43", "text": ">> Yeah, don't make the sign of the cross"}, {"start": "00:54:43", "end": "00:54:44", "text": "is spooky."}, {"start": "00:54:43", "end": "00:54:45", "text": ">> That's spooky."}, {"start": "00:54:44", "end": "00:54:46", "text": ">> Makes me want to make the sign of the"}, {"start": "00:54:45", "end": "00:54:46", "text": "cross."}, {"start": "00:54:46", "end": "00:54:48", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:54:46", "end": "00:54:50", "text": ">> But that but also but like why would"}, {"start": "00:54:48", "end": "00:54:51", "text": "they help him continue the monastery"}, {"start": "00:54:50", "end": "00:54:52", "text": "then?"}, {"start": "00:54:51", "end": "00:54:54", "text": "That's a that's a great question."}, {"start": "00:54:52", "end": "00:54:55", "text": ">> Like that's the like do they know"}, {"start": "00:54:54", "end": "00:54:57", "text": "something that we don't?"}, {"start": "00:54:55", "end": "00:54:59", "text": ">> Maybe to have to"}, {"start": "00:54:57", "end": "00:55:01", "text": "have something on him? Yeah."}, {"start": "00:54:59", "end": "00:55:02", "text": ">> cuz he instantly was denied because of"}, {"start": "00:55:01", "end": "00:55:03", "text": "it. They knew like he maybe didn't think"}, {"start": "00:55:02", "end": "00:55:05", "text": "that"}, {"start": "00:55:03", "end": "00:55:07", "text": "he would instantly be denied for, you"}, {"start": "00:55:05", "end": "00:55:09", "text": "know, forgery or whatever. So that maybe"}, {"start": "00:55:07", "end": "00:55:12", "text": "was able like to shut him down for sure."}, {"start": "00:55:09", "end": "00:55:13", "text": "Just Maybe just like a little you can do"}, {"start": "00:55:12", "end": "00:55:15", "text": "this and get this."}, {"start": "00:55:13", "end": "00:55:17", "text": ">> Mhm. That's scary. That that's so weird."}, {"start": "00:55:15", "end": "00:55:17", "text": ">> Isn't that weird? Scary, man."}, {"start": "00:55:17", "end": "00:55:20", "text": ">> Spooky."}, {"start": "00:55:17", "end": "00:55:23", "text": ">> That's spooky. I think about"}, {"start": "00:55:20", "end": "00:55:25", "text": "how many times in general we make little"}, {"start": "00:55:23", "end": "00:55:28", "text": "compromises like that and don't don't"}, {"start": "00:55:25", "end": "00:55:29", "text": "think about it, right? And"}, {"start": "00:55:28", "end": "00:55:31", "text": "uh and then have to repent of stuff."}, {"start": "00:55:29", "end": "00:55:33", "text": ">> Without a without a physical like, you"}, {"start": "00:55:31", "end": "00:55:35", "text": "know, three people in black suits"}, {"start": "00:55:33", "end": "00:55:35", "text": ">> Yeah. dr- you know, walking in front of"}, {"start": "00:55:35", "end": "00:55:37", "text": "us."}, {"start": "00:55:35", "end": "00:55:38", "text": ">> And the utility of travel."}, {"start": "00:55:37", "end": "00:55:40", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:55:38", "end": "00:55:41", "text": ">> Speaking of people in black suits, I"}, {"start": "00:55:40", "end": "00:55:43", "text": "have a crazy story of the origin of the"}, {"start": "00:55:41", "end": "00:55:45", "text": "Grim Reaper."}, {"start": "00:55:43", "end": "00:55:46", "text": "Right after the sad little goody work. 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Bye."}, {"start": "00:56:24", "end": "00:56:27", "text": "Anyway, the same guys that are doing"}, {"start": "00:56:25", "end": "00:56:29", "text": "Bryce Crawford's energy drink are going"}, {"start": "00:56:27", "end": "00:56:31", "text": "to do one for me. But I'm trying to do"}, {"start": "00:56:29", "end": "00:56:33", "text": "it like an actual yerba based, like real"}, {"start": "00:56:31", "end": "00:56:36", "text": "yerba based energy drink, not like a"}, {"start": "00:56:33", "end": "00:56:37", "text": ">> A super Christian energy drink. Super"}, {"start": "00:56:36", "end": "00:56:39", "text": "Christian. No, mine's isn't going to"}, {"start": "00:56:37", "end": "00:56:39", "text": "mine's isn't going to be Praise Energy."}, {"start": "00:56:39", "end": "00:56:43", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:56:39", "end": "00:56:45", "text": ">> No. Pentecostal Punch."}, {"start": "00:56:43", "end": "00:56:45", "text": "Pentecostal Punch is wild, dog."}, {"start": "00:56:45", "end": "00:56:47", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:56:45", "end": "00:56:50", "text": ">> Do you want to speak in tongues? TAKE A"}, {"start": "00:56:47", "end": "00:56:50", "text": "SIP."}, {"start": "00:56:51", "end": "00:56:53", "text": "THAT WOULD BE SUCH A FUNNY NICE"}, {"start": "00:56:52", "end": "00:56:55", "text": "COMMERCIAL."}, {"start": "00:56:53", "end": "00:56:55", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "00:57:00", "end": "00:57:05", "text": ">> Pentecostal Punch."}, {"start": "00:57:02", "end": "00:57:07", "text": "Just the portal opens."}, {"start": "00:57:05", "end": "00:57:07", "text": "Coming in a Honda, living in a Yamaha."}, {"start": "00:57:07", "end": "00:57:10", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:57:07", "end": "00:57:10", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:57:10", "end": "00:57:14", "text": "I wish that could have been a video that"}, {"start": "00:57:12", "end": "00:57:15", "text": "we just like, \"Hey, if you're if you're"}, {"start": "00:57:14", "end": "00:57:16", "text": "scared that you don't know how to speak"}, {"start": "00:57:15", "end": "00:57:18", "text": "in tongues, but you're going to be"}, {"start": "00:57:16", "end": "00:57:20", "text": "judged by your congregation, here's some"}, {"start": "00:57:18", "end": "00:57:20", "text": "phrases you can memorize.\""}, {"start": "00:57:20", "end": "00:57:22", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:57:20", "end": "00:57:22", "text": ">> That's good."}, {"start": "00:57:22", "end": "00:57:24", "text": ">> [snorts]"}, {"start": "00:57:22", "end": "00:57:26", "text": ">> Oh, man. Oh, that was good. That was a"}, {"start": "00:57:24", "end": "00:57:28", "text": "nice little break."}, {"start": "00:57:26", "end": "00:57:30", "text": "That's a What an ad. What an ad. Golly."}, {"start": "00:57:28", "end": "00:57:32", "text": "You remember that? I'm going I'm going"}, {"start": "00:57:30", "end": "00:57:34", "text": "your guys's ads, just so you guys know."}, {"start": "00:57:32", "end": "00:57:35", "text": ">> You can try. We will sue."}, {"start": "00:57:34", "end": "00:57:37", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:57:35", "end": "00:57:39", "text": ">> We will sue."}, {"start": "00:57:37", "end": "00:57:40", "text": "Oh my goodness. I feel like a polar bear"}, {"start": "00:57:39", "end": "00:57:42", "text": "drinking this."}, {"start": "00:57:40", "end": "00:57:44", "text": ">> Yeah. Now that Lilly's we fired Lilly"}, {"start": "00:57:42", "end": "00:57:45", "text": "from the pod. Mhm."}, {"start": "00:57:44", "end": "00:57:47", "text": "This is kind of a nice feeling. Dude."}, {"start": "00:57:45", "end": "00:57:48", "text": "Yeah. Why did you guys fire Lilly? Vibes"}, {"start": "00:57:47", "end": "00:57:50", "text": "are great."}, {"start": "00:57:48", "end": "00:57:51", "text": ">> I mean it's for obvious reasons."}, {"start": "00:57:50", "end": "00:57:52", "text": "Everyone drop comment your favorite"}, {"start": "00:57:51", "end": "00:57:54", "text": "reason why we fired Lilly."}, {"start": "00:57:52", "end": "00:57:56", "text": ">> Oh my gosh. Is she really not coming"}, {"start": "00:57:54", "end": "00:57:57", "text": "back? No, no. She is. Oh, okay. I was"}, {"start": "00:57:56", "end": "00:57:59", "text": "like she wasn't here last time I was"}, {"start": "00:57:57", "end": "00:58:00", "text": "here. She hasn't been here anytime I've"}, {"start": "00:57:59", "end": "00:58:01", "text": "been here. No, anytime she gets like"}, {"start": "00:58:00", "end": "00:58:04", "text": "we're like, \"Hey, we're bringing on a"}, {"start": "00:58:01", "end": "00:58:06", "text": "guest.\" She's like, \"Peace.\" Aw. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:58:04", "end": "00:58:08", "text": "Is she like nervous or No, she just"}, {"start": "00:58:06", "end": "00:58:09", "text": ">> She likes a break. She likes a break."}, {"start": "00:58:08", "end": "00:58:12", "text": "She also has personal problems with you,"}, {"start": "00:58:09", "end": "00:58:13", "text": "but Well, she her thing was like 10"}, {"start": "00:58:12", "end": "00:58:16", "text": "other people [laughter] right now."}, {"start": "00:58:13", "end": "00:58:18", "text": "GET IN LINE. She's like I I she's a"}, {"start": "00:58:16", "end": "00:58:19", "text": "stay-at-home mom, so she's with the kids"}, {"start": "00:58:18", "end": "00:58:21", "text": "all day and"}, {"start": "00:58:19", "end": "00:58:24", "text": "uh just does all the mom stuff and she's"}, {"start": "00:58:21", "end": "00:58:26", "text": "like, \"My only break"}, {"start": "00:58:24", "end": "00:58:27", "text": "is doing your podcast. I want like a"}, {"start": "00:58:26", "end": "00:58:29", "text": "real break.\""}, {"start": "00:58:27", "end": "00:58:31", "text": "And it's just the only break she gets is"}, {"start": "00:58:29", "end": "00:58:32", "text": "just full of anxiety."}, {"start": "00:58:31", "end": "00:58:33", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:58:32", "end": "00:58:34", "text": ">> Take a break."}, {"start": "00:58:33", "end": "00:58:35", "text": "And there's a bunch of things you have"}, {"start": "00:58:34", "end": "00:58:37", "text": "to worry about."}, {"start": "00:58:35", "end": "00:58:38", "text": ">> And she shows up and we just gaslight"}, {"start": "00:58:37", "end": "00:58:39", "text": "her from the room."}, {"start": "00:58:38", "end": "00:58:40", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:58:39", "end": "00:58:42", "text": ">> I just want to be loved."}, {"start": "00:58:40", "end": "00:58:45", "text": "It's terrible. Hilarious."}, {"start": "00:58:42", "end": "00:58:47", "text": "Uh speaking of gaslighting. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:58:45", "end": "00:58:50", "text": "Did you hear about the"}, {"start": "00:58:47", "end": "00:58:52", "text": "your home state, that mayor?"}, {"start": "00:58:50", "end": "00:58:54", "text": "Yes. She's working with China? Is that"}, {"start": "00:58:52", "end": "00:58:56", "text": "China. I haven't heard anything about"}, {"start": "00:58:54", "end": "00:58:59", "text": "this. Yes. I saw it. I read a"}, {"start": "00:58:56", "end": "00:59:00", "text": "allsides.com article on it. Just gave me"}, {"start": "00:58:59", "end": "00:59:04", "text": "the basic stuff. And I was like, \"This"}, {"start": "00:59:00", "end": "00:59:05", "text": "is crazy, dog.\" Yeah, so Elaine"}, {"start": "00:59:04", "end": "00:59:07", "text": "Wang."}, {"start": "00:59:05", "end": "00:59:09", "text": "Okay. What's her name already? Maybe Red"}, {"start": "00:59:07", "end": "00:59:10", "text": "flag."}, {"start": "00:59:09", "end": "00:59:13", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:59:10", "end": "00:59:15", "text": ">> Um so she was the mayor of Arcadia."}, {"start": "00:59:13", "end": "00:59:16", "text": "Okay. Never heard of it."}, {"start": "00:59:15", "end": "00:59:18", "text": "I'm like I've never heard of it."}, {"start": "00:59:16", "end": "00:59:20", "text": ">> Oh, really? So is that small then?"}, {"start": "00:59:18", "end": "00:59:21", "text": ">> It's a small town. Okay, well she was"}, {"start": "00:59:20", "end": "00:59:23", "text": "just arrested"}, {"start": "00:59:21", "end": "00:59:25", "text": "for basically working with the Chinese"}, {"start": "00:59:23", "end": "00:59:28", "text": "government for pushing Chinese"}, {"start": "00:59:25", "end": "00:59:30", "text": "propaganda, like targeting Chinese"}, {"start": "00:59:28", "end": "00:59:31", "text": "citizens in the United States"}, {"start": "00:59:30", "end": "00:59:34", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:59:31", "end": "00:59:35", "text": "for pushing pro-Beijing"}, {"start": "00:59:34", "end": "00:59:37", "text": "propaganda."}, {"start": "00:59:35", "end": "00:59:39", "text": "And that's illegal."}, {"start": "00:59:37", "end": "00:59:42", "text": "Apparently. Okay. It happened So, she's"}, {"start": "00:59:39", "end": "00:59:44", "text": "one of five. The whatever council or"}, {"start": "00:59:42", "end": "00:59:46", "text": "town council or whatever, they share the"}, {"start": "00:59:44", "end": "00:59:49", "text": "responsibility and at times title, I"}, {"start": "00:59:46", "end": "00:59:52", "text": "believe, of mayor. Yeah. And she did all"}, {"start": "00:59:49", "end": "00:59:54", "text": "of that stuff before, but when she got"}, {"start": "00:59:52", "end": "00:59:56", "text": "sworn in and like, you know, to protect"}, {"start": "00:59:54", "end": "00:59:58", "text": "the constitution God. of the She didn't"}, {"start": "00:59:56", "end": "01:00:00", "text": "disclose"}, {"start": "00:59:58", "end": "01:00:01", "text": "any of her previous alliances or"}, {"start": "01:00:00", "end": "01:00:04", "text": "workings in the community that she had"}, {"start": "01:00:01", "end": "01:00:06", "text": "been. So, like, who knows how true it"}, {"start": "01:00:04", "end": "01:00:09", "text": "is, but like, no, that was before is the"}, {"start": "01:00:06", "end": "01:00:10", "text": "like, whatever. She pled guilty to doing"}, {"start": "01:00:09", "end": "01:00:13", "text": "that, but not dis-"}, {"start": "01:00:10", "end": "01:00:14", "text": "and not disclosing that she had done it."}, {"start": "01:00:13", "end": "01:00:18", "text": "Yeah, so before it was kind of frowned"}, {"start": "01:00:14", "end": "01:00:20", "text": "upon, but then but when she's officially"}, {"start": "01:00:18", "end": "01:00:23", "text": "paid by the federal"}, {"start": "01:00:20", "end": "01:00:24", "text": ">> in by the federal government and now"}, {"start": "01:00:23", "end": "01:00:27", "text": "being paid also by another federal"}, {"start": "01:00:24", "end": "01:00:28", "text": "government of a foreign agency. Was she"}, {"start": "01:00:27", "end": "01:00:29", "text": "I don't know. Was she currently being"}, {"start": "01:00:28", "end": "01:00:31", "text": "paid?"}, {"start": "01:00:29", "end": "01:00:32", "text": ">> I don't know, but the like, you'd be"}, {"start": "01:00:31", "end": "01:00:33", "text": "like, okay, well, what's the big deal"}, {"start": "01:00:32", "end": "01:00:34", "text": "with that?"}, {"start": "01:00:33", "end": "01:00:36", "text": ">> Yeah. Authorities say that she"}, {"start": "01:00:34", "end": "01:00:39", "text": "communicated with Chinese officials"}, {"start": "01:00:36", "end": "01:00:42", "text": "through encrypted apps and coordinated"}, {"start": "01:00:39", "end": "01:00:42", "text": "messaging efforts. But who hasn't done"}, {"start": "01:00:42", "end": "01:00:44", "text": "that, Josh?"}, {"start": "01:00:42", "end": "01:00:44", "text": ">> That's what I'm saying. I mean, I have."}, {"start": "01:00:44", "end": "01:00:46", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "01:00:44", "end": "01:00:49", "text": ">> We've all been there."}, {"start": "01:00:46", "end": "01:00:50", "text": "Yeah. Golly, man. Did you see the thing"}, {"start": "01:00:49", "end": "01:00:52", "text": "about her fiance, too?"}, {"start": "01:00:50", "end": "01:00:55", "text": "No. He He was He was, I believe,"}, {"start": "01:00:52", "end": "01:00:57", "text": "currently incarcerated for some sort of"}, {"start": "01:00:55", "end": "01:00:58", "text": "nefarious something or other as well."}, {"start": "01:00:57", "end": "01:01:01", "text": "So, like, the fact that she was holding"}, {"start": "01:00:58", "end": "01:01:03", "text": "office with like the ties that she had."}, {"start": "01:01:01", "end": "01:01:05", "text": "Like, the whole thing's like, do you"}, {"start": "01:01:03", "end": "01:01:07", "text": "guys not vet people at all before"}, {"start": "01:01:05", "end": "01:01:08", "text": "allowing them to take positions?"}, {"start": "01:01:07", "end": "01:01:09", "text": ">> How did she get caught?"}, {"start": "01:01:08", "end": "01:01:11", "text": "I don't know, actually. That's"}, {"start": "01:01:09", "end": "01:01:14", "text": "interesting. It's like I only correct"}, {"start": "01:01:11", "end": "01:01:16", "text": "you guys. I don't offer new information."}, {"start": "01:01:14", "end": "01:01:18", "text": "So, like, don't ask me questions."}, {"start": "01:01:16", "end": "01:01:21", "text": ">> like you're protecting her."}, {"start": "01:01:18", "end": "01:01:22", "text": "Interesting. Interesting. Interesting."}, {"start": "01:01:21", "end": "01:01:23", "text": "The one Asian Are you Chinese"}, {"start": "01:01:22", "end": "01:01:24", "text": "propagandist?"}, {"start": "01:01:23", "end": "01:01:26", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "01:01:24", "end": "01:01:27", "text": ">> Where's Where's that gong?"}, {"start": "01:01:26", "end": "01:01:29", "text": "He did come in at the company at the"}, {"start": "01:01:27", "end": "01:01:30", "text": "perfect time. Ni hao, xie xie."}, {"start": "01:01:29", "end": "01:01:31", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "01:01:30", "end": "01:01:34", "text": ">> I wonder how much"}, {"start": "01:01:31", "end": "01:01:35", "text": ">> fall again? NO!"}, {"start": "01:01:34", "end": "01:01:36", "text": "OH, NO."}, {"start": "01:01:35", "end": "01:01:38", "text": "OH, NO."}, {"start": "01:01:36", "end": "01:01:40", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "01:01:38", "end": "01:01:40", "text": ">> GG."}, {"start": "01:01:42", "end": "01:01:44", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "01:01:42", "end": "01:01:45", "text": ">> PLE- PLE- PLEASE DON'T DO AN ASIAN"}, {"start": "01:01:44", "end": "01:01:47", "text": "ACCENT. Please don't do an Asian accent."}, {"start": "01:01:45", "end": "01:01:49", "text": "Ruslan, you do it now."}, {"start": "01:01:47", "end": "01:01:50", "text": "Ruslan just did an Asian accent?"}, {"start": "01:01:49", "end": "01:01:52", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "01:01:50", "end": "01:01:54", "text": ">> AI's going to be AI's not going to We"}, {"start": "01:01:52", "end": "01:01:55", "text": "should take like a clip of his voice and"}, {"start": "01:01:54", "end": "01:01:56", "text": "Oh, easily. swap it in."}, {"start": "01:01:55", "end": "01:02:00", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "01:01:56", "end": "01:02:02", "text": ">> I wonder if they're recruiting a random"}, {"start": "01:02:00", "end": "01:02:05", "text": "mayor and city council people in"}, {"start": "01:02:02", "end": "01:02:06", "text": "Arcadia, which is a city in my state"}, {"start": "01:02:05", "end": "01:02:09", "text": "that I've never heard of. How?"}, {"start": "01:02:06", "end": "01:02:09", "text": ">> What else are they doing? And who else"}, {"start": "01:02:09", "end": "01:02:11", "text": "are they recruiting?"}, {"start": "01:02:09", "end": "01:02:12", "text": ">> But was she even recruited? Or it was it"}, {"start": "01:02:11", "end": "01:02:14", "text": "Was it a plant? Like that's the"}, {"start": "01:02:12", "end": "01:02:16", "text": "interesting thing. Like was this the"}, {"start": "01:02:14", "end": "01:02:18", "text": "long game? Mhm. You know, and a in the"}, {"start": "01:02:16", "end": "01:02:21", "text": "great big city of Arcadia. It's like the"}, {"start": "01:02:18", "end": "01:02:22", "text": "old Russian I got to even look up where"}, {"start": "01:02:21", "end": "01:02:24", "text": "that is on the map, man. Like"}, {"start": "01:02:22", "end": "01:02:26", "text": ">> right outside of LA. It's inside of"}, {"start": "01:02:24", "end": "01:02:29", "text": "Chuck-E-Cheese and Dave & Buster's. That"}, {"start": "01:02:26", "end": "01:02:31", "text": "has to be such a small city, man."}, {"start": "01:02:29", "end": "01:02:33", "text": "Arcadia that I mean I may I may have"}, {"start": "01:02:31", "end": "01:02:34", "text": "like seen the sign before, but"}, {"start": "01:02:33", "end": "01:02:36", "text": ">> like I've heard of it, right? It's in"}, {"start": "01:02:34", "end": "01:02:38", "text": "Flo- There's an Arcadia in Florida."}, {"start": "01:02:36", "end": "01:02:41", "text": ">> Arcade. You You've heard of arcades."}, {"start": "01:02:38", "end": "01:02:43", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. This is like a tiny town,"}, {"start": "01:02:41", "end": "01:02:45", "text": "man. Cuz it's like Whittier, Arcadia."}, {"start": "01:02:43", "end": "01:02:46", "text": "Like I've"}, {"start": "01:02:45", "end": "01:02:47", "text": "But that's what they would least"}, {"start": "01:02:46", "end": "01:02:48", "text": "suspect."}, {"start": "01:02:47", "end": "01:02:49", "text": ">> Pasadena. Right?"}, {"start": "01:02:48", "end": "01:02:50", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:02:49", "end": "01:02:52", "text": "That's crazy. What is What was the end"}, {"start": "01:02:50", "end": "01:02:54", "text": "game? What was What were they trying to"}, {"start": "01:02:52", "end": "01:02:55", "text": "get her to do? Just propagate Chinese"}, {"start": "01:02:54", "end": "01:02:56", "text": "nonsense?"}, {"start": "01:02:55", "end": "01:02:59", "text": ">> What I saw is that she was working"}, {"start": "01:02:56", "end": "01:03:02", "text": "previously with like Chinese immigrants"}, {"start": "01:02:59", "end": "01:03:04", "text": "and she was politically involved in like"}, {"start": "01:03:02", "end": "01:03:06", "text": "helping them understand how to vote and"}, {"start": "01:03:04", "end": "01:03:09", "text": "stuff like that. Like that was her"}, {"start": "01:03:06", "end": "01:03:11", "text": "political and and I"}, {"start": "01:03:09", "end": "01:03:12", "text": "This isn't, you know, gospel. This is me"}, {"start": "01:03:11", "end": "01:03:15", "text": "trying to remember the thing that I read"}, {"start": "01:03:12", "end": "01:03:17", "text": "really quick to talk about it. Yeah. But"}, {"start": "01:03:15", "end": "01:03:18", "text": "like I believe that was she had like"}, {"start": "01:03:17", "end": "01:03:20", "text": "been working with immigrants, gathering"}, {"start": "01:03:18", "end": "01:03:22", "text": "people together, and basically had"}, {"start": "01:03:20", "end": "01:03:24", "text": "become the this is how you do this."}, {"start": "01:03:22", "end": "01:03:26", "text": "These are the ways that we want to"}, {"start": "01:03:24", "end": "01:03:29", "text": "operate here."}, {"start": "01:03:26", "end": "01:03:33", "text": "Allegedly all before her position."}, {"start": "01:03:29", "end": "01:03:35", "text": "Um And and and she's in jail right now."}, {"start": "01:03:33", "end": "01:03:37", "text": "Or she just arrested? So I guess she she"}, {"start": "01:03:35", "end": "01:03:39", "text": "pled guilty for acting as an"}, {"start": "01:03:37", "end": "01:03:40", "text": "unregistered agent of the Chinese"}, {"start": "01:03:39", "end": "01:03:41", "text": "government."}, {"start": "01:03:40", "end": "01:03:43", "text": ">> Cuz that was the thing, she didn't"}, {"start": "01:03:41", "end": "01:03:46", "text": "disclose upon taking the position that"}, {"start": "01:03:43", "end": "01:03:48", "text": "she had previously done that."}, {"start": "01:03:46", "end": "01:03:51", "text": ">> Yeah. Yikes. So I all I can figure is if"}, {"start": "01:03:48", "end": "01:03:53", "text": "she's that plugged in"}, {"start": "01:03:51", "end": "01:03:56", "text": "and she's like accepting this"}, {"start": "01:03:53", "end": "01:03:57", "text": "accusation, like she's got to know some"}, {"start": "01:03:56", "end": "01:03:59", "text": "little loophole to how she was doing it"}, {"start": "01:03:57", "end": "01:04:01", "text": "where she knows she's going to be fine."}, {"start": "01:03:59", "end": "01:04:02", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "01:04:01", "end": "01:04:03", "text": "Suss."}, {"start": "01:04:02", "end": "01:04:05", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "01:04:03", "end": "01:04:07", "text": "Yeah, my brain just goes who else is"}, {"start": "01:04:05", "end": "01:04:10", "text": "looped in on this in government? What"}, {"start": "01:04:07", "end": "01:04:12", "text": "other media voices are in on this? Who"}, {"start": "01:04:10", "end": "01:04:14", "text": "else is sowing sowing discord and"}, {"start": "01:04:12", "end": "01:04:16", "text": "disinformation, you know?"}, {"start": "01:04:14", "end": "01:04:17", "text": ">> Like they're too smart. Yeah. Like like"}, {"start": "01:04:16", "end": "01:04:20", "text": "this isn't we we didn't just catch the"}, {"start": "01:04:17", "end": "01:04:21", "text": "one or like we got him. Like it's if"}, {"start": "01:04:20", "end": "01:04:21", "text": "it's happening there, it's happening"}, {"start": "01:04:21", "end": "01:04:24", "text": "everywhere."}, {"start": "01:04:21", "end": "01:04:26", "text": ">> It's weird timing that the story broke."}, {"start": "01:04:24", "end": "01:04:28", "text": "I'm just now thinking of that."}, {"start": "01:04:26", "end": "01:04:29", "text": ">> go to Trump is in China."}, {"start": "01:04:28", "end": "01:04:31", "text": ">> by the time this comes out he's not in"}, {"start": "01:04:29", "end": "01:04:32", "text": "China, but he was in China."}, {"start": "01:04:31", "end": "01:04:34", "text": ">> But it's interesting the story's kind of"}, {"start": "01:04:32", "end": "01:04:36", "text": "breaking or happening at the same time."}, {"start": "01:04:34", "end": "01:04:37", "text": "Did you see the video of Elon in China?"}, {"start": "01:04:36", "end": "01:04:38", "text": "No."}, {"start": "01:04:37", "end": "01:04:40", "text": ">> No. He was just like they were like"}, {"start": "01:04:38", "end": "01:04:41", "text": "doing the big old like celebration in"}, {"start": "01:04:40", "end": "01:04:42", "text": "the front steps. He was just walking"}, {"start": "01:04:41", "end": "01:04:43", "text": "around. He's just"}, {"start": "01:04:42", "end": "01:04:45", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "01:04:43", "end": "01:04:46", "text": ">> Just like a little kid."}, {"start": "01:04:45", "end": "01:04:49", "text": "Yeah, that whole thing's"}, {"start": "01:04:46", "end": "01:04:51", "text": "very interesting."}, {"start": "01:04:49", "end": "01:04:53", "text": "A little spooky. Yeah. It's all very"}, {"start": "01:04:51", "end": "01:04:57", "text": "strange. I I have all I have all sorts"}, {"start": "01:04:53", "end": "01:04:59", "text": "of theories, man. I think Qatari Carlson"}, {"start": "01:04:57", "end": "01:05:02", "text": "is definitely in it with some of the"}, {"start": "01:04:59", "end": "01:05:04", "text": "Middle Eastern funders and handlers. You"}, {"start": "01:05:02", "end": "01:05:06", "text": "know, all of a sudden he's flip-flopped"}, {"start": "01:05:04", "end": "01:05:09", "text": "on every position he's ever held and"}, {"start": "01:05:06", "end": "01:05:11", "text": "he's very sympathetic to Islam and it"}, {"start": "01:05:09", "end": "01:05:12", "text": "mean it's real all. It's not that bad."}, {"start": "01:05:11", "end": "01:05:14", "text": "Well, what? It's you know, it's just"}, {"start": "01:05:12", "end": "01:05:15", "text": "Islam just means submission. Like"}, {"start": "01:05:14", "end": "01:05:19", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "01:05:15", "end": "01:05:20", "text": ">> It's like dog, who is paying you, bro?"}, {"start": "01:05:19", "end": "01:05:23", "text": "Like what is going on? He's had the"}, {"start": "01:05:20", "end": "01:05:25", "text": "weirdest flip, dude. On everything. On"}, {"start": "01:05:23", "end": "01:05:27", "text": "name an issue, he has completely 180. He"}, {"start": "01:05:25", "end": "01:05:29", "text": "had a guy on that I know personally full"}, {"start": "01:05:27", "end": "01:05:32", "text": "on pushing socialism on there. Like full"}, {"start": "01:05:29", "end": "01:05:34", "text": "on like yeah, like socialism is and he's"}, {"start": "01:05:32", "end": "01:05:38", "text": "like yeah, better than I'm like what are"}, {"start": "01:05:34", "end": "01:05:39", "text": "you doing, bro? Personally,"}, {"start": "01:05:38", "end": "01:05:41", "text": "I I would actually love to have Tucker"}, {"start": "01:05:39", "end": "01:05:43", "text": "on this this uh podcast."}, {"start": "01:05:41", "end": "01:05:46", "text": "I think he's probably working for"}, {"start": "01:05:43", "end": "01:05:47", "text": "Russia. Yeah, that wouldn't surprise me."}, {"start": "01:05:46", "end": "01:05:49", "text": "I don't know. I don't trust a man that"}, {"start": "01:05:47", "end": "01:05:51", "text": "holsters his nicotine."}, {"start": "01:05:49", "end": "01:05:52", "text": "Mhm. He has got a little buckle for his"}, {"start": "01:05:51", "end": "01:05:53", "text": "nicotine."}, {"start": "01:05:52", "end": "01:05:55", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "01:05:53", "end": "01:05:57", "text": ">> But but also he he is it the FBI or CIA"}, {"start": "01:05:55", "end": "01:06:01", "text": "his dad worked for? And he also applied,"}, {"start": "01:05:57", "end": "01:06:03", "text": "got denied. Lived in Russia for a time."}, {"start": "01:06:01", "end": "01:06:05", "text": "Was able to access Putin."}, {"start": "01:06:03", "end": "01:06:07", "text": "Seemingly like like a drop of a dime."}, {"start": "01:06:05", "end": "01:06:10", "text": "The only like news anchor that was able"}, {"start": "01:06:07", "end": "01:06:11", "text": "to do that. Anybody in America. Yeah,"}, {"start": "01:06:10", "end": "01:06:13", "text": "anybody."}, {"start": "01:06:11", "end": "01:06:14", "text": "He was He was really surprised they had"}, {"start": "01:06:13", "end": "01:06:15", "text": "bread"}, {"start": "01:06:14", "end": "01:06:16", "text": "at the grocery store. You guys remember"}, {"start": "01:06:15", "end": "01:06:16", "text": "that clip?"}, {"start": "01:06:16", "end": "01:06:18", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "01:06:16", "end": "01:06:19", "text": ">> They got bread."}, {"start": "01:06:18", "end": "01:06:21", "text": "It's like where are you living, bro?"}, {"start": "01:06:19", "end": "01:06:22", "text": ">> Where do you live, bro? He just had on I"}, {"start": "01:06:21", "end": "01:06:24", "text": "didn't watch the full I just saw clips."}, {"start": "01:06:22", "end": "01:06:25", "text": "He had on um"}, {"start": "01:06:24", "end": "01:06:27", "text": ">> [clears throat]"}, {"start": "01:06:25", "end": "01:06:29", "text": ">> this lady that worked for Zelenskyy in"}, {"start": "01:06:27", "end": "01:06:31", "text": "Ukraine like his like a PR team"}, {"start": "01:06:29", "end": "01:06:33", "text": "something. And like she came on there"}, {"start": "01:06:31", "end": "01:06:36", "text": "basically bashing Zelenskyy and the"}, {"start": "01:06:33", "end": "01:06:38", "text": "Ukraine efforts and stuff like that. I'm"}, {"start": "01:06:36", "end": "01:06:40", "text": "like it just it seems"}, {"start": "01:06:38", "end": "01:06:41", "text": "I don't know. It just it seems strange."}, {"start": "01:06:40", "end": "01:06:43", "text": "The Russia thing would would make a lot"}, {"start": "01:06:41", "end": "01:06:44", "text": "of sense for sure. The Russia thing the"}, {"start": "01:06:43", "end": "01:06:46", "text": "whole thing."}, {"start": "01:06:44", "end": "01:06:48", "text": ">> to college and I and I know he went to"}, {"start": "01:06:46", "end": "01:06:51", "text": "college, but I think he his degree was"}, {"start": "01:06:48", "end": "01:06:53", "text": "in like Russian history. I believe. I"}, {"start": "01:06:51", "end": "01:06:56", "text": "could be wrong. Yeah, look that up."}, {"start": "01:06:53", "end": "01:06:58", "text": ">> Yeah. I mean, you can't trust anyone"}, {"start": "01:06:56", "end": "01:07:00", "text": "who's been on Dancing with the Stars."}, {"start": "01:06:58", "end": "01:07:02", "text": "He's been on Dancing with the Stars?"}, {"start": "01:07:00", "end": "01:07:04", "text": "Look it up. It's It's It's not great"}, {"start": "01:07:02", "end": "01:07:06", "text": "dancing, but he was on Dancing with the"}, {"start": "01:07:04", "end": "01:07:08", "text": "Stars. And it's Random fact."}, {"start": "01:07:06", "end": "01:07:10", "text": ">> It's crazy. He's wearing a silk shirt"}, {"start": "01:07:08", "end": "01:07:11", "text": "and everything. You don't trust a guy in"}, {"start": "01:07:10", "end": "01:07:12", "text": "a silk shirt."}, {"start": "01:07:11", "end": "01:07:14", "text": ">> Yeah. Again, Tucker would love to have"}, {"start": "01:07:12", "end": "01:07:15", "text": "you on, buddy. Anybody on. [laughter] We"}, {"start": "01:07:14", "end": "01:07:16", "text": "love to have Tucker on."}, {"start": "01:07:15", "end": "01:07:18", "text": ">> How about"}, {"start": "01:07:16", "end": "01:07:21", "text": "the JBP? Come on. JBP, come on. Let's"}, {"start": "01:07:18", "end": "01:07:23", "text": "go. Let's do it. Have you You guys seen"}, {"start": "01:07:21", "end": "01:07:25", "text": "his uh"}, {"start": "01:07:23", "end": "01:07:26", "text": "I was sexually assaulted by demons"}, {"start": "01:07:25", "end": "01:07:27", "text": "story?"}, {"start": "01:07:26", "end": "01:07:28", "text": "Tucker? You guys haven't seen that?"}, {"start": "01:07:27", "end": "01:07:29", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "01:07:28", "end": "01:07:30", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "01:07:29", "end": "01:07:32", "text": ">> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, my buddies"}, {"start": "01:07:30", "end": "01:07:32", "text": "were working on a documentary"}, {"start": "01:07:32", "end": "01:07:34", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "01:07:32", "end": "01:07:36", "text": ">> and they went and interviewed him and he"}, {"start": "01:07:34", "end": "01:07:39", "text": "shares this whole story of demons in his"}, {"start": "01:07:36", "end": "01:07:40", "text": "bed while he was sleeping with his dogs."}, {"start": "01:07:39", "end": "01:07:42", "text": "He's either"}, {"start": "01:07:40", "end": "01:07:45", "text": "com- I was going to say an inappropriate"}, {"start": "01:07:42", "end": "01:07:48", "text": "word. But, he's he basically retells the"}, {"start": "01:07:45", "end": "01:07:49", "text": "story of he thinks demons attacked him"}, {"start": "01:07:48", "end": "01:07:51", "text": "while he was in his bed and scratched up"}, {"start": "01:07:49", "end": "01:07:52", "text": "his back while he was sleeping with his"}, {"start": "01:07:51", "end": "01:07:54", "text": "dogs."}, {"start": "01:07:52", "end": "01:07:55", "text": "I've never heard this."}, {"start": "01:07:54", "end": "01:07:57", "text": ">> Which which I go"}, {"start": "01:07:55", "end": "01:07:59", "text": "you were sleeping with your dogs. Like,"}, {"start": "01:07:57", "end": "01:08:00", "text": "you sure it wasn't your big old dogs"}, {"start": "01:07:59", "end": "01:08:01", "text": "that you sleep with?"}, {"start": "01:08:00", "end": "01:08:03", "text": ">> And he's convinced that they were demons"}, {"start": "01:08:01", "end": "01:08:05", "text": "and he's and he basically says that's"}, {"start": "01:08:03", "end": "01:08:07", "text": "kind of the the"}, {"start": "01:08:05", "end": "01:08:08", "text": "pathway that he used to come back to"}, {"start": "01:08:07", "end": "01:08:10", "text": "God, if you will. Yeah. It's pretty"}, {"start": "01:08:08", "end": "01:08:10", "text": "viral story. Yeah. I've never heard"}, {"start": "01:08:10", "end": "01:08:12", "text": "this."}, {"start": "01:08:10", "end": "01:08:13", "text": ">> Interesting. It's crazy. It's really"}, {"start": "01:08:12", "end": "01:08:14", "text": "good. Yeah, maybe we can throw like a"}, {"start": "01:08:13", "end": "01:08:15", "text": "little"}, {"start": "01:08:14", "end": "01:08:17", "text": "a headline on there. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:08:15", "end": "01:08:18", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:08:17", "end": "01:08:20", "text": "Good. Find anything. What did I mean,"}, {"start": "01:08:18", "end": "01:08:21", "text": "did he elaborate on it? Like"}, {"start": "01:08:20", "end": "01:08:23", "text": ">> a whole video. It's like a whole like 10"}, {"start": "01:08:21", "end": "01:08:23", "text": "minutes to him retelling the"}, {"start": "01:08:23", "end": "01:08:25", "text": ">> On his podcast?"}, {"start": "01:08:23", "end": "01:08:26", "text": ">> It was on"}, {"start": "01:08:25", "end": "01:08:27", "text": "a They So, there's there's a documentary"}, {"start": "01:08:26", "end": "01:08:32", "text": "being worked on. Yeah, it's called"}, {"start": "01:08:27", "end": "01:08:35", "text": "Christianities and um John"}, {"start": "01:08:32", "end": "01:08:37", "text": "Hairs uh just doing the interview. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:08:35", "end": "01:08:38", "text": "And it's it's super interesting. And"}, {"start": "01:08:37", "end": "01:08:39", "text": "yeah, he's just going This is a couple"}, {"start": "01:08:38", "end": "01:08:42", "text": "of years ago. He's just going on and on"}, {"start": "01:08:39", "end": "01:08:44", "text": "and on and it went like mega viral. And"}, {"start": "01:08:42", "end": "01:08:46", "text": "yeah, and he he you know, so it's like"}, {"start": "01:08:44", "end": "01:08:47", "text": "you got SA'd by"}, {"start": "01:08:46", "end": "01:08:49", "text": "aliens"}, {"start": "01:08:47", "end": "01:08:51", "text": "or demons. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:08:49", "end": "01:08:52", "text": "Crazy."}, {"start": "01:08:51", "end": "01:08:54", "text": ">> Weird. I mean, that's the story that's"}, {"start": "01:08:52", "end": "01:08:55", "text": "happened to so many people though, too."}, {"start": "01:08:54", "end": "01:08:57", "text": "That's crazy."}, {"start": "01:08:55", "end": "01:08:59", "text": "Isn't it It's so weird that these are"}, {"start": "01:08:57", "end": "01:09:01", "text": "like the people at the forefront of like"}, {"start": "01:08:59", "end": "01:09:03", "text": "conversations in the media we consume."}, {"start": "01:09:01", "end": "01:09:04", "text": "But, if you took any of these people and"}, {"start": "01:09:03", "end": "01:09:06", "text": "put them in like a small group that"}, {"start": "01:09:04", "end": "01:09:07", "text": "you're a part of in that drops you're"}, {"start": "01:09:06", "end": "01:09:08", "text": "like"}, {"start": "01:09:07", "end": "01:09:10", "text": "who the freak is this guy? You know what"}, {"start": "01:09:08", "end": "01:09:13", "text": "I mean? Like but somehow those are the"}, {"start": "01:09:10", "end": "01:09:15", "text": "like loudest voices in the world we live"}, {"start": "01:09:13", "end": "01:09:17", "text": "in. Yeah. It's like yeah."}, {"start": "01:09:15", "end": "01:09:18", "text": "Tucker says demons attacked him in his"}, {"start": "01:09:17", "end": "01:09:19", "text": "sleep."}, {"start": "01:09:18", "end": "01:09:19", "text": "Interesting."}, {"start": "01:09:19", "end": "01:09:20", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:09:19", "end": "01:09:23", "text": "Very interesting."}, {"start": "01:09:20", "end": "01:09:25", "text": ">> TMC. Come on the show. Come on the show"}, {"start": "01:09:23", "end": "01:09:25", "text": "and defend your position, sir. Love to"}, {"start": "01:09:25", "end": "01:09:27", "text": "hear it."}, {"start": "01:09:25", "end": "01:09:27", "text": ">> Debate me or you're gay. Debate me or"}, {"start": "01:09:27", "end": "01:09:30", "text": "you're gay. Debate me [laughter] or"}, {"start": "01:09:27", "end": "01:09:30", "text": "you're gay."}, {"start": "01:09:30", "end": "01:09:35", "text": "Oh."}, {"start": "01:09:32", "end": "01:09:37", "text": "Nice. Some grandpa's dying words. Well,"}, {"start": "01:09:35", "end": "01:09:40", "text": "it's it seems weird"}, {"start": "01:09:37", "end": "01:09:41", "text": "that the media"}, {"start": "01:09:40", "end": "01:09:42", "text": "I don't know."}, {"start": "01:09:41", "end": "01:09:44", "text": "It [clears throat] seems recently, I"}, {"start": "01:09:42", "end": "01:09:47", "text": "know it's not recent,"}, {"start": "01:09:44", "end": "01:09:49", "text": "but it seems like maybe post COVID you"}, {"start": "01:09:47", "end": "01:09:51", "text": "can now view the media of it's like"}, {"start": "01:09:49", "end": "01:09:52", "text": "there's like always a narrative being"}, {"start": "01:09:51", "end": "01:09:54", "text": "painted, you know? Like"}, {"start": "01:09:52", "end": "01:09:55", "text": "very skeptical of like what media is,"}, {"start": "01:09:54", "end": "01:09:56", "text": "especially if they're all talking about"}, {"start": "01:09:55", "end": "01:09:57", "text": "the same thing."}, {"start": "01:09:56", "end": "01:09:59", "text": ">> At the same time."}, {"start": "01:09:57", "end": "01:10:02", "text": ">> Especially this hantavirus"}, {"start": "01:09:59", "end": "01:10:03", "text": "coming out, you know?"}, {"start": "01:10:02", "end": "01:10:04", "text": "Where it's just like they're like"}, {"start": "01:10:03", "end": "01:10:07", "text": "they're really trying to like build this"}, {"start": "01:10:04", "end": "01:10:09", "text": "fear Mhm. with this hantavirus, but it's"}, {"start": "01:10:07", "end": "01:10:11", "text": "like yet"}, {"start": "01:10:09", "end": "01:10:13", "text": "three people have died."}, {"start": "01:10:11", "end": "01:10:16", "text": ">> Yeah. And like it's not"}, {"start": "01:10:13", "end": "01:10:18", "text": "it's not something that is very they"}, {"start": "01:10:16", "end": "01:10:19", "text": "said like to contract it is very hard."}, {"start": "01:10:18", "end": "01:10:20", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:10:19", "end": "01:10:22", "text": "And but they're building this whole"}, {"start": "01:10:20", "end": "01:10:25", "text": "narrative with this hantavirus and"}, {"start": "01:10:22", "end": "01:10:28", "text": "stuff, but then at the same time"}, {"start": "01:10:25", "end": "01:10:30", "text": "right under the little table"}, {"start": "01:10:28", "end": "01:10:30", "text": "this story about the Disney cruise"}, {"start": "01:10:30", "end": "01:10:32", "text": "breaks. I don't know if you heard about"}, {"start": "01:10:30", "end": "01:10:34", "text": "this. I haven't heard about Disney. Oh"}, {"start": "01:10:32", "end": "01:10:34", "text": "wow, dude. Yeah. This is very weird"}, {"start": "01:10:34", "end": "01:10:37", "text": "time."}, {"start": "01:10:34", "end": "01:10:40", "text": ">> say breaks, but cuz it's very not on a"}, {"start": "01:10:37", "end": "01:10:42", "text": "ton of sources and stuff or like news"}, {"start": "01:10:40", "end": "01:10:46", "text": "channels. No, not at all. Um but Disney"}, {"start": "01:10:42", "end": "01:10:48", "text": "Disney cruise there was just an FBI bust"}, {"start": "01:10:46", "end": "01:10:49", "text": "of over 20 employees on the Disney"}, {"start": "01:10:48", "end": "01:10:52", "text": "cruise."}, {"start": "01:10:49", "end": "01:10:54", "text": "We can bleep this out."}, {"start": "01:10:52", "end": "01:10:54", "text": "I think we're somehow Yeah, say it how"}, {"start": "01:10:54", "end": "01:10:57", "text": "you want to."}, {"start": "01:10:54", "end": "01:10:59", "text": ">> Acronym CP. CP."}, {"start": "01:10:57", "end": "01:11:01", "text": "20 different Disney employees with CP?"}, {"start": "01:10:59", "end": "01:11:03", "text": ">> On the Disney cruise."}, {"start": "01:11:01", "end": "01:11:05", "text": "That is it. Together. They're It It was"}, {"start": "01:11:03", "end": "01:11:07", "text": "a CP ring."}, {"start": "01:11:05", "end": "01:11:10", "text": "That was happening on the cruise ship."}, {"start": "01:11:07", "end": "01:11:12", "text": "Okay. Yeah. That's a lot of"}, {"start": "01:11:10", "end": "01:11:13", "text": "Yeah. people into the same thing. In the"}, {"start": "01:11:12", "end": "01:11:15", "text": "same place."}, {"start": "01:11:13", "end": "01:11:17", "text": ">> In the same place. Whether they were I I"}, {"start": "01:11:15", "end": "01:11:19", "text": "don't know the details whether they were"}, {"start": "01:11:17", "end": "01:11:20", "text": "generating this material on the cruise,"}, {"start": "01:11:19", "end": "01:11:21", "text": "whether it was"}, {"start": "01:11:20", "end": "01:11:22", "text": "uh what Like I don't know what was"}, {"start": "01:11:21", "end": "01:11:25", "text": "happening."}, {"start": "01:11:22", "end": "01:11:26", "text": ">> Mhm. But it was people employees on this"}, {"start": "01:11:25", "end": "01:11:28", "text": "cruise ship."}, {"start": "01:11:26", "end": "01:11:30", "text": ">> Mhm. So it's very it's very strange that"}, {"start": "01:11:28", "end": "01:11:32", "text": "suddenly as soon as we, you know, you"}, {"start": "01:11:30", "end": "01:11:32", "text": "think about how many how powerful Disney"}, {"start": "01:11:32", "end": "01:11:34", "text": "is."}, {"start": "01:11:32", "end": "01:11:37", "text": ">> Mhm. Well, also who they're owned by."}, {"start": "01:11:34", "end": "01:11:39", "text": "Yep. Like we got basically BlackRock and"}, {"start": "01:11:37", "end": "01:11:41", "text": "stuff. Like these big big like Fortune"}, {"start": "01:11:39", "end": "01:11:43", "text": "500 whatever companies. They own like"}, {"start": "01:11:41", "end": "01:11:44", "text": "Disney. They own all the news channels."}, {"start": "01:11:43", "end": "01:11:47", "text": "And it's like, \"Well, we got to protect"}, {"start": "01:11:44", "end": "01:11:50", "text": "this asset.\" So like let's talk about a"}, {"start": "01:11:47", "end": "01:11:51", "text": "cruise line Yep. in a different manner."}, {"start": "01:11:50", "end": "01:11:53", "text": "And so like when you look up cruises,"}, {"start": "01:11:51", "end": "01:11:55", "text": "it's like, \"Oh, haunted virus.\" That's"}, {"start": "01:11:53", "end": "01:11:57", "text": "some spooky Because they need to drop"}, {"start": "01:11:55", "end": "01:11:59", "text": "that instantly. Sorry to interrupt."}, {"start": "01:11:57", "end": "01:12:01", "text": "Instantly"}, {"start": "01:11:59", "end": "01:12:03", "text": "you have people saying, \"Oh, this is"}, {"start": "01:12:01", "end": "01:12:05", "text": "I can't going back into a new you know,"}, {"start": "01:12:03", "end": "01:12:06", "text": "lockdown. I can't do a new COVID.\" Like"}, {"start": "01:12:05", "end": "01:12:07", "text": "it's like that's instantly where"}, {"start": "01:12:06", "end": "01:12:09", "text": "people's minds go. And that's where"}, {"start": "01:12:07", "end": "01:12:11", "text": "they're They They wanted that out you"}, {"start": "01:12:09", "end": "01:12:13", "text": "know, that outcry. Yeah. Yeah. They want"}, {"start": "01:12:11", "end": "01:12:16", "text": "that fear. Yeah. So you don't know what"}, {"start": "01:12:13", "end": "01:12:16", "text": "Haunta is in slang, right? You never"}, {"start": "01:12:16", "end": "01:12:19", "text": "found that out."}, {"start": "01:12:16", "end": "01:12:23", "text": ">> No. Ooh. It is It's a translation, too."}, {"start": "01:12:19", "end": "01:12:25", "text": ">> Yeah. The nation of the six-sided star."}, {"start": "01:12:23", "end": "01:12:26", "text": "Okay. Yeah. The red and blue nation."}, {"start": "01:12:25", "end": "01:12:29", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"start": "01:12:26", "end": "01:12:31", "text": "It means in their It's their slang for"}, {"start": "01:12:29", "end": "01:12:32", "text": "nonsense, lies, a scam, or something"}, {"start": "01:12:31", "end": "01:12:33", "text": "fake."}, {"start": "01:12:32", "end": "01:12:33", "text": ">> Haunta? Yeah."}, {"start": "01:12:33", "end": "01:12:34", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "01:12:33", "end": "01:12:36", "text": ">> Jeez."}, {"start": "01:12:34", "end": "01:12:40", "text": "It is It's a a translation for another"}, {"start": "01:12:36", "end": "01:12:40", "text": "language of false. No way. Yes."}, {"start": "01:12:40", "end": "01:12:42", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "01:12:40", "end": "01:12:44", "text": ">> That's terrible marketing. It literally"}, {"start": "01:12:42", "end": "01:12:47", "text": "translates fake virus."}, {"start": "01:12:44", "end": "01:12:48", "text": "It's terrible marketing. No way. Who Who"}, {"start": "01:12:47", "end": "01:12:51", "text": "picked that word? Google it. Like"}, {"start": "01:12:48", "end": "01:12:53", "text": "unrelated, Google it. Right now for your"}, {"start": "01:12:51", "end": "01:12:56", "text": "own like so you know I didn't just see"}, {"start": "01:12:53", "end": "01:12:57", "text": "like an Instagram something or other."}, {"start": "01:12:56", "end": "01:12:58", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "01:12:57", "end": "01:13:01", "text": ">> Cuz I saw it on Instagram I was like"}, {"start": "01:12:58", "end": "01:13:02", "text": "that can't be real. That's on the nose."}, {"start": "01:13:01", "end": "01:13:05", "text": "And then it pulls up and I'm like well"}, {"start": "01:13:02", "end": "01:13:06", "text": "dag on."}, {"start": "01:13:05", "end": "01:13:08", "text": "Yeah, that's a"}, {"start": "01:13:06", "end": "01:13:10", "text": "that's bad marketing."}, {"start": "01:13:08", "end": "01:13:13", "text": "They need to they need to fire whoever."}, {"start": "01:13:10", "end": "01:13:17", "text": "Hanta in Hebrew and Hungarian slang"}, {"start": "01:13:13", "end": "01:13:19", "text": "uh means nonsense, a lie, or a scam. It"}, {"start": "01:13:17", "end": "01:13:21", "text": "like the way they use it is full of"}, {"start": "01:13:19", "end": "01:13:22", "text": "crap. How do you Wait, how do you guys"}, {"start": "01:13:21", "end": "01:13:25", "text": "spelling it cuz when I spelt Hanta I"}, {"start": "01:13:22", "end": "01:13:27", "text": "spelt it h a n t a? Yeah."}, {"start": "01:13:25", "end": "01:13:30", "text": ">> Yeah. Okay, mine just came up in Hebrew"}, {"start": "01:13:27", "end": "01:13:30", "text": "Hanta is a verb that means she parked."}, {"start": "01:13:30", "end": "01:13:32", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "01:13:30", "end": "01:13:33", "text": ">> Or she embombed."}, {"start": "01:13:32", "end": "01:13:34", "text": "The word Hanta recently started getting"}, {"start": "01:13:33", "end": "01:13:35", "text": "used in online rumors."}, {"start": "01:13:34", "end": "01:13:37", "text": ">> Listen, that the she parked? Have you"}, {"start": "01:13:35", "end": "01:13:39", "text": "ever seen a female parallel park? It's"}, {"start": "01:13:37", "end": "01:13:42", "text": "impossible. It's false news. It's fake,"}, {"start": "01:13:39", "end": "01:13:46", "text": "right? That's what it's saying. Hanta in"}, {"start": "01:13:42", "end": "01:13:47", "text": "the Lakota Native American means move"}, {"start": "01:13:46", "end": "01:13:49", "text": "out of the way"}, {"start": "01:13:47", "end": "01:13:51", "text": "or move it."}, {"start": "01:13:49", "end": "01:13:53", "text": "We're like the uh"}, {"start": "01:13:51", "end": "01:13:56", "text": "like topical preachers right now we're"}, {"start": "01:13:53", "end": "01:13:57", "text": "just trying to find And if you look back"}, {"start": "01:13:56", "end": "01:13:59", "text": "at the Lakota"}, {"start": "01:13:57", "end": "01:14:00", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "01:13:59", "end": "01:14:01", "text": ">> Hanta"}, {"start": "01:14:00", "end": "01:14:02", "text": "move out of the way."}, {"start": "01:14:01", "end": "01:14:05", "text": ">> You You guys really think that they"}, {"start": "01:14:02", "end": "01:14:07", "text": "would try to do another lockdown?"}, {"start": "01:14:05", "end": "01:14:09", "text": "I don't I They tried it with the the Was"}, {"start": "01:14:07", "end": "01:14:11", "text": "it the Omnicron or the Omnicrom?"}, {"start": "01:14:09", "end": "01:14:12", "text": ">> what it was called. Okay, let me Jeez."}, {"start": "01:14:11", "end": "01:14:14", "text": "Do you remember that? I'm pretty sure"}, {"start": "01:14:12", "end": "01:14:15", "text": "there was another variant where they"}, {"start": "01:14:14", "end": "01:14:16", "text": "tried to start like Uh-huh."}, {"start": "01:14:15", "end": "01:14:18", "text": ">> pushing another variant and people are"}, {"start": "01:14:16", "end": "01:14:20", "text": "like Nah. I think I think they're"}, {"start": "01:14:18", "end": "01:14:22", "text": "gearing up for something. I talk about"}, {"start": "01:14:20", "end": "01:14:25", "text": "the ticks all the time cuz it's like in"}, {"start": "01:14:22", "end": "01:14:28", "text": "the woods and but like the fact that"}, {"start": "01:14:25", "end": "01:14:29", "text": "there are vaccines that have been like"}, {"start": "01:14:28", "end": "01:14:31", "text": "patented and like they're working on"}, {"start": "01:14:29", "end": "01:14:32", "text": "like alpha gal with the ticks is a"}, {"start": "01:14:31", "end": "01:14:34", "text": "thing. They're trying to shut down red"}, {"start": "01:14:32", "end": "01:14:37", "text": "meat. It's like I think they're gearing"}, {"start": "01:14:34", "end": "01:14:39", "text": "up to convince people to get a prick"}, {"start": "01:14:37", "end": "01:14:41", "text": "again in some sort. There's another"}, {"start": "01:14:39", "end": "01:14:42", "text": "patent we talked about last week and I"}, {"start": "01:14:41", "end": "01:14:44", "text": "couldn't remember what it's called. I"}, {"start": "01:14:42", "end": "01:14:47", "text": "still don't. But I did find it. So if"}, {"start": "01:14:44", "end": "01:14:49", "text": "you go back to 190 what episode What are"}, {"start": "01:14:47", "end": "01:14:51", "text": "we doing now? 196? Yeah. So, if you go"}, {"start": "01:14:49", "end": "01:14:53", "text": "back and watch 195, I popped it on the"}, {"start": "01:14:51", "end": "01:14:56", "text": "screen, the actual patent number, but"}, {"start": "01:14:53", "end": "01:14:58", "text": "there's a protein and it incase or it"}, {"start": "01:14:56", "end": "01:15:01", "text": "incases the protein and they can use"}, {"start": "01:14:58", "end": "01:15:03", "text": "radiation like from stuff that's around"}, {"start": "01:15:01", "end": "01:15:05", "text": "us now, like kind of 5G stuff. It's"}, {"start": "01:15:03", "end": "01:15:07", "text": "literally patented. But, they dissolve"}, {"start": "01:15:05", "end": "01:15:10", "text": "the outer casing, so you could be"}, {"start": "01:15:07", "end": "01:15:11", "text": "injected with something, be a carrier of"}, {"start": "01:15:10", "end": "01:15:14", "text": "this unknown substance, hormone"}, {"start": "01:15:11", "end": "01:15:16", "text": "modifier, behavior modifier. You could"}, {"start": "01:15:14", "end": "01:15:18", "text": "carry it for who knows how long, but"}, {"start": "01:15:16", "end": "01:15:20", "text": "when they hit with a frequency, that"}, {"start": "01:15:18", "end": "01:15:22", "text": "targeted frequency would dissolve the"}, {"start": "01:15:20", "end": "01:15:24", "text": "outer layer of the cell. So, whatever is"}, {"start": "01:15:22", "end": "01:15:26", "text": "encased in it, it's a time to release"}, {"start": "01:15:24", "end": "01:15:27", "text": "that they control the time. So, I think"}, {"start": "01:15:26", "end": "01:15:30", "text": "they're gearing up for like we need to"}, {"start": "01:15:27", "end": "01:15:31", "text": "get everybody to get on something so"}, {"start": "01:15:30", "end": "01:15:32", "text": "that we can"}, {"start": "01:15:31", "end": "01:15:35", "text": ">> sleeper cell."}, {"start": "01:15:32", "end": "01:15:37", "text": ">> Yeah. I mean, literally. That's crazy."}, {"start": "01:15:35", "end": "01:15:38", "text": "It like I It sounds crazy, but you can"}, {"start": "01:15:37", "end": "01:15:40", "text": "look up the patent."}, {"start": "01:15:38", "end": "01:15:41", "text": ">> Yeah. Who owns the patent? What did I"}, {"start": "01:15:40", "end": "01:15:43", "text": "say? It was a The Rockefeller."}, {"start": "01:15:41", "end": "01:15:45", "text": ">> Rockefeller, thank you. It's on the"}, {"start": "01:15:43", "end": "01:15:47", "text": "screen. Go go back. I don't remember"}, {"start": "01:15:45", "end": "01:15:49", "text": "what it's called. I um"}, {"start": "01:15:47", "end": "01:15:51", "text": "I I mean, you guys are in Florida, so I"}, {"start": "01:15:49", "end": "01:15:54", "text": "didn't realize this the last when the"}, {"start": "01:15:51", "end": "01:15:58", "text": "pandemic was happening, I came here to"}, {"start": "01:15:54", "end": "01:16:00", "text": "go to Disneyland in August of 2021."}, {"start": "01:15:58", "end": "01:16:03", "text": "Okay? And it was such a culture shock"}, {"start": "01:16:00", "end": "01:16:06", "text": "coming from San Diego cuz stuff was"}, {"start": "01:16:03", "end": "01:16:07", "text": "still shut down Mhm. and everybody was"}, {"start": "01:16:06", "end": "01:16:10", "text": "masking. I remember coming and we went"}, {"start": "01:16:07", "end": "01:16:13", "text": "to downtown Disney and I did not see a"}, {"start": "01:16:10", "end": "01:16:15", "text": "mask anywhere. And I was like, oh,"}, {"start": "01:16:13", "end": "01:16:17", "text": "Florida's like God's country for real."}, {"start": "01:16:15", "end": "01:16:18", "text": "Like, [laughter] this is crazy. So, I"}, {"start": "01:16:17", "end": "01:16:19", "text": "don't think you guys got anything to"}, {"start": "01:16:18", "end": "01:16:21", "text": "worry about. Y'all just do what you"}, {"start": "01:16:19", "end": "01:16:22", "text": "want. You're in Florida."}, {"start": "01:16:21", "end": "01:16:25", "text": "Just wrestle gators."}, {"start": "01:16:22", "end": "01:16:27", "text": ">> We're on our own timeline. Yeah. Um fun"}, {"start": "01:16:25", "end": "01:16:29", "text": "fact, what I learned this week from"}, {"start": "01:16:27", "end": "01:16:31", "text": "Larry, who might may or may not be our"}, {"start": "01:16:29", "end": "01:16:32", "text": "guest next week. Um"}, {"start": "01:16:31", "end": "01:16:35", "text": "so"}, {"start": "01:16:32", "end": "01:16:37", "text": "Delta and then Omicron were the two"}, {"start": "01:16:35", "end": "01:16:39", "text": "variants of COVID, right? Yeah. That"}, {"start": "01:16:37", "end": "01:16:40", "text": "came out like a year later or something"}, {"start": "01:16:39", "end": "01:16:42", "text": "that they were discovered."}, {"start": "01:16:40", "end": "01:16:46", "text": "Fun little fact, people even made merch"}, {"start": "01:16:42", "end": "01:16:49", "text": "out of it. But Delta and Omicron"}, {"start": "01:16:46", "end": "01:16:51", "text": "if you all the letters"}, {"start": "01:16:49", "end": "01:16:51", "text": "spell out media control."}, {"start": "01:16:51", "end": "01:16:53", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "01:16:51", "end": "01:16:54", "text": ">> Which I was like, \"Oh, this is perfect.\""}, {"start": "01:16:53", "end": "01:16:55", "text": "But then I'm like, \"Oh, you know, you"}, {"start": "01:16:54", "end": "01:16:56", "text": "probably do that with anything.\" But"}, {"start": "01:16:55", "end": "01:16:58", "text": "it's like one of those things where it's"}, {"start": "01:16:56", "end": "01:17:00", "text": "like are people hiding in plain sight?"}, {"start": "01:16:58", "end": "01:17:02", "text": "You never know. I mean that kind of"}, {"start": "01:17:00", "end": "01:17:03", "text": "seems to be a like something that"}, {"start": "01:17:02", "end": "01:17:05", "text": "they've always done is just kind of like"}, {"start": "01:17:03", "end": "01:17:07", "text": "it's a it's a weird thing. But isn't"}, {"start": "01:17:05", "end": "01:17:09", "text": "there like a terminology to that? Like"}, {"start": "01:17:07", "end": "01:17:12", "text": "where it's like"}, {"start": "01:17:09", "end": "01:17:13", "text": "I don't know. It's like people that do"}, {"start": "01:17:12", "end": "01:17:15", "text": "it's like a"}, {"start": "01:17:13", "end": "01:17:16", "text": "I don't know. Like an Illuminati"}, {"start": "01:17:15", "end": "01:17:17", "text": "Freemasonry kind of thing where it's"}, {"start": "01:17:16", "end": "01:17:19", "text": "like"}, {"start": "01:17:17", "end": "01:17:21", "text": "you can tell the truth"}, {"start": "01:17:19", "end": "01:17:23", "text": "You almost have to. Yeah, it's like you"}, {"start": "01:17:21", "end": "01:17:25", "text": "have to present like the truth but you"}, {"start": "01:17:23", "end": "01:17:27", "text": "can disguise it"}, {"start": "01:17:25", "end": "01:17:29", "text": ">> Mhm. for it it's like a self-fulfilling"}, {"start": "01:17:27", "end": "01:17:31", "text": "prophecy kind of thing. I don't know."}, {"start": "01:17:29", "end": "01:17:33", "text": "It's like an initiation almost. Like you"}, {"start": "01:17:31", "end": "01:17:34", "text": "see all those like, you know, comedians"}, {"start": "01:17:33", "end": "01:17:36", "text": "or actors that come on talk shows and"}, {"start": "01:17:34", "end": "01:17:38", "text": "they'll do they'll make silly tweets or"}, {"start": "01:17:36", "end": "01:17:40", "text": "jokes about being in the Illuminati or"}, {"start": "01:17:38", "end": "01:17:41", "text": "eating babies, all this stuff and it's"}, {"start": "01:17:40", "end": "01:17:43", "text": "like, \"Oh, it's a joke. He's playing"}, {"start": "01:17:41", "end": "01:17:45", "text": "around.\" But it's like, \"But is it?\""}, {"start": "01:17:43", "end": "01:17:47", "text": "Mhm. You have you have you have a rap"}, {"start": "01:17:45", "end": "01:17:49", "text": "artist that do music videos of demonic"}, {"start": "01:17:47", "end": "01:17:50", "text": "worship and sacrifices [clears throat]"}, {"start": "01:17:49", "end": "01:17:52", "text": "and it's like"}, {"start": "01:17:50", "end": "01:17:53", "text": "where do you get that from? Like where's"}, {"start": "01:17:52", "end": "01:17:54", "text": "the you're like you're sitting around in"}, {"start": "01:17:53", "end": "01:17:56", "text": "your room and you're just brainstorming"}, {"start": "01:17:54", "end": "01:17:57", "text": "like what should our music video be"}, {"start": "01:17:56", "end": "01:17:57", "text": "about? And like that's where you land"}, {"start": "01:17:57", "end": "01:17:59", "text": "on?"}, {"start": "01:17:57", "end": "01:18:01", "text": ">> Yeah. It's really weird to me. Do you"}, {"start": "01:17:59", "end": "01:18:02", "text": "have any thoughts on that? Like Yeah,"}, {"start": "01:18:01", "end": "01:18:05", "text": "especially in the music video."}, {"start": "01:18:02", "end": "01:18:07", "text": ">> I I I used to think it was like"}, {"start": "01:18:05", "end": "01:18:08", "text": "hiring artsy-fartsy weirdo people to do"}, {"start": "01:18:07", "end": "01:18:10", "text": "your treatments."}, {"start": "01:18:08", "end": "01:18:12", "text": ">> Mhm. You know, but even then even if"}, {"start": "01:18:10", "end": "01:18:14", "text": "that's true, even if it's like Jay-Z's"}, {"start": "01:18:12", "end": "01:18:15", "text": "not creating the treatment himself,"}, {"start": "01:18:14", "end": "01:18:18", "text": "right? And it's some weird artist that's"}, {"start": "01:18:15", "end": "01:18:20", "text": "into all this occult stuff. You're still"}, {"start": "01:18:18", "end": "01:18:22", "text": "responsible. Like you're still on the"}, {"start": "01:18:20", "end": "01:18:24", "text": "hook for whatever this thing is that"}, {"start": "01:18:22", "end": "01:18:26", "text": "you're putting out there. So that that's"}, {"start": "01:18:24", "end": "01:18:28", "text": "what I used to think. I I think as I've"}, {"start": "01:18:26", "end": "01:18:29", "text": "gotten older, I think it's a more of a"}, {"start": "01:18:28", "end": "01:18:31", "text": "subtle"}, {"start": "01:18:29", "end": "01:18:34", "text": "in like intoxication with things of the"}, {"start": "01:18:31", "end": "01:18:35", "text": "occult that is probably unconscious."}, {"start": "01:18:34", "end": "01:18:37", "text": "Meaning if you sit down with Travis"}, {"start": "01:18:35", "end": "01:18:39", "text": "Scott or Jay-Z or whoever these guys are"}, {"start": "01:18:37", "end": "01:18:41", "text": "that are dabbling in this energy."}, {"start": "01:18:39", "end": "01:18:43", "text": "Um who's the other guy? Playboi Carti is"}, {"start": "01:18:41", "end": "01:18:45", "text": "like with the pentagrams and just like"}, {"start": "01:18:43", "end": "01:18:48", "text": "flat out satanic stuff. I don't think"}, {"start": "01:18:45", "end": "01:18:49", "text": "they think that they're doing stuff"}, {"start": "01:18:48", "end": "01:18:51", "text": "that's bad. I think they think this is"}, {"start": "01:18:49", "end": "01:18:52", "text": "vibes and you know, we're just trying to"}, {"start": "01:18:51", "end": "01:18:53", "text": "People are going to talk about it."}, {"start": "01:18:52", "end": "01:18:55", "text": ">> Yeah, people are going to talk about it."}, {"start": "01:18:53", "end": "01:18:57", "text": "It's a satanic panic. We're going to get"}, {"start": "01:18:55", "end": "01:18:58", "text": "people talking about it. Uh but I think"}, {"start": "01:18:57", "end": "01:19:01", "text": "there's something on a spiritual level"}, {"start": "01:18:58", "end": "01:19:04", "text": "that's gravitating them towards these"}, {"start": "01:19:01", "end": "01:19:05", "text": "demonic visuals for whatever reason. And"}, {"start": "01:19:04", "end": "01:19:07", "text": "I don't And it maybe subconscious. It"}, {"start": "01:19:05", "end": "01:19:09", "text": "might be on a spiritual level."}, {"start": "01:19:07", "end": "01:19:11", "text": "Uh but yeah, it's it's it's it's"}, {"start": "01:19:09", "end": "01:19:13", "text": "terrible. And you see even recently, you"}, {"start": "01:19:11", "end": "01:19:15", "text": "see like someone who like Doja Cat or"}, {"start": "01:19:13", "end": "01:19:17", "text": "whatever, you know, like someone who's"}, {"start": "01:19:15", "end": "01:19:18", "text": "you had a real high peak and then"}, {"start": "01:19:17", "end": "01:19:19", "text": "suddenly you don't really hear about"}, {"start": "01:19:18", "end": "01:19:22", "text": "them and then suddenly they come out"}, {"start": "01:19:19", "end": "01:19:23", "text": "with a very demonic you know, like you"}, {"start": "01:19:22", "end": "01:19:26", "text": "know, they're going to the fashion week"}, {"start": "01:19:23", "end": "01:19:28", "text": "in these very weird costumes and very"}, {"start": "01:19:26", "end": "01:19:29", "text": "strange music videos with subliminal"}, {"start": "01:19:28", "end": "01:19:31", "text": "messages and stuff like that. You're"}, {"start": "01:19:29", "end": "01:19:33", "text": "like, maybe that is for them just to"}, {"start": "01:19:31", "end": "01:19:35", "text": "create hype about themselves and create"}, {"start": "01:19:33", "end": "01:19:38", "text": "conversation, but it just seems I think"}, {"start": "01:19:35", "end": "01:19:41", "text": "people a weird Hilda Dion. People want"}, {"start": "01:19:38", "end": "01:19:44", "text": "attention at any cost. Yeah. And I don't"}, {"start": "01:19:41", "end": "01:19:45", "text": "know how do I say this gently?"}, {"start": "01:19:44", "end": "01:19:47", "text": "I don't know how much time you guys have"}, {"start": "01:19:45", "end": "01:19:49", "text": "spent in LA,"}, {"start": "01:19:47", "end": "01:19:50", "text": "but there is a weird like energy to the"}, {"start": "01:19:49", "end": "01:19:52", "text": "city. Yeah, yeah."}, {"start": "01:19:50", "end": "01:19:54", "text": ">> You know, outside of the smog and the"}, {"start": "01:19:52", "end": "01:19:56", "text": "terrible air quality that you just see"}, {"start": "01:19:54", "end": "01:19:58", "text": "just this haze of"}, {"start": "01:19:56", "end": "01:20:01", "text": "ugh all over it. There's just a"}, {"start": "01:19:58", "end": "01:20:04", "text": "weirdness in LA. We had our event in LA"}, {"start": "01:20:01", "end": "01:20:06", "text": "and it was like the the hardest weirdest"}, {"start": "01:20:04", "end": "01:20:06", "text": "opposition on every front that we've"}, {"start": "01:20:06", "end": "01:20:09", "text": "ever dealt with."}, {"start": "01:20:06", "end": "01:20:10", "text": ">> What do you think is the cause of the"}, {"start": "01:20:09", "end": "01:20:11", "text": "weirdness that is LA?"}, {"start": "01:20:10", "end": "01:20:12", "text": "I"}, {"start": "01:20:11", "end": "01:20:14", "text": ">> [sighs]"}, {"start": "01:20:12", "end": "01:20:16", "text": ">> I think there's like a spirit I think"}, {"start": "01:20:14", "end": "01:20:17", "text": "there's a spirit over the city."}, {"start": "01:20:16", "end": "01:20:19", "text": "Yeah, I think there's a spirit over the"}, {"start": "01:20:17", "end": "01:20:21", "text": "city. I think you overlap that with"}, {"start": "01:20:19", "end": "01:20:22", "text": "entertainment, lust of the eyes, lust of"}, {"start": "01:20:21", "end": "01:20:25", "text": "the flesh, pride of life. That's what's"}, {"start": "01:20:22", "end": "01:20:26", "text": "going to sell. And I think you you have"}, {"start": "01:20:25", "end": "01:20:28", "text": "a by any means necessary we're going to"}, {"start": "01:20:26", "end": "01:20:32", "text": "make these things and there's like a"}, {"start": "01:20:28", "end": "01:20:34", "text": "weird There's a weirdness over it. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:20:32", "end": "01:20:35", "text": "And And it's a brain rot. Like it's hard"}, {"start": "01:20:34", "end": "01:20:36", "text": "to explain. New York has something"}, {"start": "01:20:35", "end": "01:20:38", "text": "similar, but New York isn't at like LA."}, {"start": "01:20:36", "end": "01:20:41", "text": "Like I'd much rather go hang out in New"}, {"start": "01:20:38", "end": "01:20:42", "text": "York than LA. I dread LA. I have friends"}, {"start": "01:20:41", "end": "01:20:44", "text": "that live on the outskirts, like near"}, {"start": "01:20:42", "end": "01:20:45", "text": "Glendale, and that's and that's"}, {"start": "01:20:44", "end": "01:20:47", "text": "different. But I'm talking like when"}, {"start": "01:20:45", "end": "01:20:50", "text": "you're like in Hollywood, like it's just"}, {"start": "01:20:47", "end": "01:20:50", "text": "it's thick, man. It's thick."}, {"start": "01:20:50", "end": "01:20:51", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:20:50", "end": "01:20:53", "text": ">> And you think it's because of years of"}, {"start": "01:20:51", "end": "01:20:54", "text": "that? Like that they've just built it"}, {"start": "01:20:53", "end": "01:20:55", "text": "up, it's just become the culture?"}, {"start": "01:20:54", "end": "01:20:56", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:20:55", "end": "01:20:59", "text": ">> so. I think I think I think it's part"}, {"start": "01:20:56", "end": "01:21:02", "text": "mind virus, part culture values, part"}, {"start": "01:20:59", "end": "01:21:04", "text": "just the hardness of living in a place"}, {"start": "01:21:02", "end": "01:21:06", "text": "that has such poor air quality, such bad"}, {"start": "01:21:04", "end": "01:21:08", "text": "traffic, and is so expensive to live"}, {"start": "01:21:06", "end": "01:21:09", "text": "there. So you're just getting just"}, {"start": "01:21:08", "end": "01:21:11", "text": "pounded on every measure. Like your"}, {"start": "01:21:09", "end": "01:21:13", "text": "health is crap. If you're asthmatic or"}, {"start": "01:21:11", "end": "01:21:14", "text": "you have allergies, you're cooked,"}, {"start": "01:21:13", "end": "01:21:17", "text": "right? [clears throat] You sit in"}, {"start": "01:21:14", "end": "01:21:18", "text": "traffic for 45 minutes a day for 5-mile"}, {"start": "01:21:17", "end": "01:21:20", "text": "drive."}, {"start": "01:21:18", "end": "01:21:22", "text": ">> Yeah. And you have this entertainment"}, {"start": "01:21:20", "end": "01:21:25", "text": "des- desperate like oh, I'm trying to"}, {"start": "01:21:22", "end": "01:21:27", "text": "get on and like be a actor and then like"}, {"start": "01:21:25", "end": "01:21:30", "text": "all like they just It's fake. Marvel"}, {"start": "01:21:27", "end": "01:21:31", "text": "just fired a thousand people, you know?"}, {"start": "01:21:30", "end": "01:21:32", "text": "I saw that."}, {"start": "01:21:31", "end": "01:21:34", "text": ">> And so it's like I it's just like a hard"}, {"start": "01:21:32", "end": "01:21:35", "text": "life. But here's the silver lining."}, {"start": "01:21:34", "end": "01:21:37", "text": "Here's the here's the here's the"}, {"start": "01:21:35", "end": "01:21:39", "text": "beautiful part, which I think could be"}, {"start": "01:21:37", "end": "01:21:41", "text": "something potentially hopeful. I was"}, {"start": "01:21:39", "end": "01:21:45", "text": "just with John Irwin and they did the"}, {"start": "01:21:41", "end": "01:21:46", "text": "Moses short story old stories Moses"}, {"start": "01:21:45", "end": "01:21:48", "text": "premiere."}, {"start": "01:21:46", "end": "01:21:49", "text": "Was that last night? Did you watch it?"}, {"start": "01:21:48", "end": "01:21:50", "text": ">> It was two nights ago. Yeah, I did. Two"}, {"start": "01:21:49", "end": "01:21:51", "text": "nights ago. It was phenomenal."}, {"start": "01:21:50", "end": "01:21:53", "text": ">> Really?"}, {"start": "01:21:51", "end": "01:21:55", "text": ">> really good. Yeah, the way they did it"}, {"start": "01:21:53", "end": "01:21:56", "text": "is cool because it comes out of House of"}, {"start": "01:21:55", "end": "01:21:56", "text": "Da- House of David."}, {"start": "01:21:56", "end": "01:21:58", "text": ">> Oh, sick."}, {"start": "01:21:56", "end": "01:21:59", "text": ">> So it overlaps. I probably shouldn't be"}, {"start": "01:21:58", "end": "01:22:00", "text": "spoiling this. This will come out after"}, {"start": "01:21:59", "end": "01:22:02", "text": "it's already out. So it comes out of"}, {"start": "01:22:00", "end": "01:22:04", "text": "that. So it starts as like a House of"}, {"start": "01:22:02", "end": "01:22:07", "text": "David episode and then it goes into"}, {"start": "01:22:04", "end": "01:22:09", "text": "David's dad telling them about Moses."}, {"start": "01:22:07", "end": "01:22:11", "text": ">> And then it flashes back to Moses."}, {"start": "01:22:09", "end": "01:22:13", "text": ">> That's cool. And it's like a 20-minute"}, {"start": "01:22:11", "end": "01:22:17", "text": "episode, right? But dig this, they shot"}, {"start": "01:22:13", "end": "01:22:21", "text": "this on the Amazon set in LA where"}, {"start": "01:22:17", "end": "01:22:22", "text": "almost a hundred years ago to the date"}, {"start": "01:22:21", "end": "01:22:26", "text": "the very first thing that was getting"}, {"start": "01:22:22", "end": "01:22:27", "text": "shot in LA on the same Amazon set, the"}, {"start": "01:22:26", "end": "01:22:30", "text": "same place"}, {"start": "01:22:27", "end": "01:22:31", "text": "is biblical stories."}, {"start": "01:22:30", "end": "01:22:33", "text": "Oh. So, the very first things that were"}, {"start": "01:22:31", "end": "01:22:36", "text": "shot for Hollywood were Bible stories."}, {"start": "01:22:33", "end": "01:22:38", "text": "No way. Yeah. Yeah. And now you full"}, {"start": "01:22:36", "end": "01:22:39", "text": "full circle 100 years later almost to"}, {"start": "01:22:38", "end": "01:22:42", "text": "the day. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:22:39", "end": "01:22:44", "text": "And you have House of David, Moses"}, {"start": "01:22:42", "end": "01:22:45", "text": "Wonder Project"}, {"start": "01:22:44", "end": "01:22:47", "text": "uh shooting stuff"}, {"start": "01:22:45", "end": "01:22:48", "text": "in LA"}, {"start": "01:22:47", "end": "01:22:50", "text": "while everything else is shutting down."}, {"start": "01:22:48", "end": "01:22:52", "text": "John Irwin is on the cutting edge of"}, {"start": "01:22:50", "end": "01:22:54", "text": "learning how to use tech and have a AI"}, {"start": "01:22:52", "end": "01:22:55", "text": "stack and combine all these things. I"}, {"start": "01:22:54", "end": "01:22:56", "text": "don't even know if I'm allowed to say"}, {"start": "01:22:55", "end": "01:22:57", "text": "this."}, {"start": "01:22:56", "end": "01:22:59", "text": "Uh but he's combining stack and he's"}, {"start": "01:22:57", "end": "01:23:02", "text": "just making stuff that's better for"}, {"start": "01:22:59", "end": "01:23:03", "text": "cheaper. And the the market is so"}, {"start": "01:23:02", "end": "01:23:04", "text": "fertile with Christian media because"}, {"start": "01:23:03", "end": "01:23:06", "text": "it's always been here. People just"}, {"start": "01:23:04", "end": "01:23:07", "text": "didn't know. So, you got Amazon involved"}, {"start": "01:23:06", "end": "01:23:09", "text": "and these people are going to And again,"}, {"start": "01:23:07", "end": "01:23:11", "text": "I'm not like I'm not the biggest fan of"}, {"start": "01:23:09", "end": "01:23:12", "text": "Amazon as a company, but I do think that"}, {"start": "01:23:11", "end": "01:23:15", "text": "they're seeing like oh, there's like"}, {"start": "01:23:12", "end": "01:23:17", "text": "this ecosystem of Christian creators and"}, {"start": "01:23:15", "end": "01:23:17", "text": "Christian filmmakers and Christian"}, {"start": "01:23:17", "end": "01:23:19", "text": "artists."}, {"start": "01:23:17", "end": "01:23:21", "text": ">> People want it. Man, we need to get in"}, {"start": "01:23:19", "end": "01:23:24", "text": "on this. Yeah, so I was I would I was"}, {"start": "01:23:21", "end": "01:23:26", "text": "super encouraged cuz generally I dread"}, {"start": "01:23:24", "end": "01:23:28", "text": "LA. I dread I hate I hate it. I hate it."}, {"start": "01:23:26", "end": "01:23:29", "text": "I hate it. I mean, you guys you guys see"}, {"start": "01:23:28", "end": "01:23:32", "text": "where I live. Like Oceanside, Vista"}, {"start": "01:23:29", "end": "01:23:34", "text": "super chill, blue collar, still normal."}, {"start": "01:23:32", "end": "01:23:34", "text": "So, that's the one thing I'm holding out"}, {"start": "01:23:34", "end": "01:23:36", "text": "for."}, {"start": "01:23:34", "end": "01:23:38", "text": ">> Yeah, I was at school in Simi Valley,"}, {"start": "01:23:36", "end": "01:23:40", "text": "which is just outside of LA."}, {"start": "01:23:38", "end": "01:23:42", "text": "And anytime we go to LA, it was like"}, {"start": "01:23:40", "end": "01:23:45", "text": "just it was super hard. You could really"}, {"start": "01:23:42", "end": "01:23:47", "text": "feel there was just like a ooh. Like"}, {"start": "01:23:45", "end": "01:23:49", "text": "just kind of like a feeling. And you see"}, {"start": "01:23:47", "end": "01:23:50", "text": "that over and over in time with creators"}, {"start": "01:23:49", "end": "01:23:52", "text": "who move there. Well, yeah, that's what"}, {"start": "01:23:50", "end": "01:23:53", "text": "I was going to say. I've like this is"}, {"start": "01:23:52", "end": "01:23:54", "text": "not I'm not generalizing everyone that"}, {"start": "01:23:53", "end": "01:23:56", "text": "lives in LA cuz I know there's people"}, {"start": "01:23:54", "end": "01:23:57", "text": "that live in LA that absolutely love"}, {"start": "01:23:56", "end": "01:24:01", "text": "Christ."}, {"start": "01:23:57", "end": "01:24:05", "text": "But I had a good amount of friends that"}, {"start": "01:24:01", "end": "01:24:07", "text": "love Christ and then they moved to LA"}, {"start": "01:24:05", "end": "01:24:09", "text": "and are no longer pursuing Christ. And"}, {"start": "01:24:07", "end": "01:24:11", "text": "it's like that's just that's weird. And"}, {"start": "01:24:09", "end": "01:24:12", "text": "it's like people from that didn't even"}, {"start": "01:24:11", "end": "01:24:14", "text": "know each other, too. Like my friend"}, {"start": "01:24:12", "end": "01:24:16", "text": "group is just spread out."}, {"start": "01:24:14", "end": "01:24:18", "text": ">> People who are on fire. Yeah. And like"}, {"start": "01:24:16", "end": "01:24:20", "text": "working in the church and stuff and then"}, {"start": "01:24:18", "end": "01:24:20", "text": "all of a sudden it's just like no. All"}, {"start": "01:24:20", "end": "01:24:22", "text": "right."}, {"start": "01:24:20", "end": "01:24:23", "text": "Dig this. Mhm."}, {"start": "01:24:22", "end": "01:24:25", "text": "You guys keep it up with this David"}, {"start": "01:24:23", "end": "01:24:28", "text": "case?"}, {"start": "01:24:25", "end": "01:24:28", "text": "David? D A V"}, {"start": "01:24:28", "end": "01:24:29", "text": "I D?"}, {"start": "01:24:28", "end": "01:24:31", "text": ">> No, we we talked about it recently, but"}, {"start": "01:24:29", "end": "01:24:33", "text": "like you know, like like when it came"}, {"start": "01:24:31", "end": "01:24:35", "text": "out with breaking of the car and the"}, {"start": "01:24:33", "end": "01:24:37", "text": "trunk and everything. So this kid moves"}, {"start": "01:24:35", "end": "01:24:38", "text": "to LA."}, {"start": "01:24:37", "end": "01:24:41", "text": "Family is Christian. He's posting"}, {"start": "01:24:38", "end": "01:24:42", "text": "Christian Tik Tok videos. He's doing"}, {"start": "01:24:41", "end": "01:24:43", "text": "Bible studies on the internet."}, {"start": "01:24:42", "end": "01:24:45", "text": ">> Didn't know that."}, {"start": "01:24:43", "end": "01:24:46", "text": ">> Full on. I know people collect this up."}, {"start": "01:24:45", "end": "01:24:48", "text": "What do you mean? They did a video about"}, {"start": "01:24:46", "end": "01:24:50", "text": "this showing him doing Bible studies. In"}, {"start": "01:24:48", "end": "01:24:52", "text": "the process starts creating these"}, {"start": "01:24:50", "end": "01:24:54", "text": "ulterior characters,"}, {"start": "01:24:52", "end": "01:24:56", "text": "uh you know, imagining killing his"}, {"start": "01:24:54", "end": "01:24:58", "text": "girlfriend, writing songs about it, and"}, {"start": "01:24:56", "end": "01:25:00", "text": "all this stuff as under the guise of"}, {"start": "01:24:58", "end": "01:25:02", "text": "like it's just art and I'm just I just"}, {"start": "01:25:00", "end": "01:25:05", "text": "have this ultra ego. And and then before"}, {"start": "01:25:02", "end": "01:25:07", "text": "you know it, life imitates or was it"}, {"start": "01:25:05", "end": "01:25:09", "text": "art? Life imitates art."}, {"start": "01:25:07", "end": "01:25:11", "text": ">> Mhm. And then he ends up knowing this"}, {"start": "01:25:09", "end": "01:25:14", "text": "girl through a Discord. She's like 11"}, {"start": "01:25:11", "end": "01:25:16", "text": "when they meet. He's 16, 17. They start"}, {"start": "01:25:14", "end": "01:25:20", "text": "dating. And then you know, when they're"}, {"start": "01:25:16", "end": "01:25:22", "text": "together, she allegedly gets pregnant."}, {"start": "01:25:20", "end": "01:25:25", "text": "They want to cover her up. She claims to"}, {"start": "01:25:22", "end": "01:25:27", "text": "expose him. And he takes out this"}, {"start": "01:25:25", "end": "01:25:29", "text": "14-year-old and is now going to jail."}, {"start": "01:25:27", "end": "01:25:31", "text": "And this is this is a kid who moved to"}, {"start": "01:25:29", "end": "01:25:33", "text": "LA with a Christian family. And I'm not"}, {"start": "01:25:31", "end": "01:25:35", "text": "talking a Christian face culturally cuz"}, {"start": "01:25:33", "end": "01:25:38", "text": "I know I'm talking up until months"}, {"start": "01:25:35", "end": "01:25:40", "text": "before this happened, he was posting"}, {"start": "01:25:38", "end": "01:25:42", "text": "Christian Tik Tok videos, man. He was"}, {"start": "01:25:40", "end": "01:25:45", "text": "reading the Bible and praying for people"}, {"start": "01:25:42", "end": "01:25:47", "text": "on Tik Tok. And ends up with a"}, {"start": "01:25:45", "end": "01:25:49", "text": "14-year-old in in the trunk of his"}, {"start": "01:25:47", "end": "01:25:51", "text": "Tesla."}, {"start": "01:25:49", "end": "01:25:53", "text": ">> Terrible. Well, this brings up I've"}, {"start": "01:25:51", "end": "01:25:54", "text": "always thought this."}, {"start": "01:25:53", "end": "01:25:56", "text": "And this sounds like super I'm not"}, {"start": "01:25:54", "end": "01:25:57", "text": "trying to be like all"}, {"start": "01:25:56", "end": "01:25:59", "text": "I don't know."}, {"start": "01:25:57", "end": "01:26:01", "text": "Sensationalize anything."}, {"start": "01:25:59", "end": "01:26:03", "text": "But in scripture does talk about it at"}, {"start": "01:26:01", "end": "01:26:07", "text": "one point that Satan basically set up"}, {"start": "01:26:03", "end": "01:26:09", "text": "his throne in this one city, right?"}, {"start": "01:26:07", "end": "01:26:11", "text": "And it's like Satan is not omnipresent."}, {"start": "01:26:09", "end": "01:26:13", "text": "He's can't just be every like every time"}, {"start": "01:26:11", "end": "01:26:14", "text": "you're tormented or whatever, it's not"}, {"start": "01:26:13", "end": "01:26:16", "text": "Satan. Like it's"}, {"start": "01:26:14", "end": "01:26:18", "text": "the darkness, the demons, whatever."}, {"start": "01:26:16", "end": "01:26:21", "text": ">> Yeah. Your own flesh."}, {"start": "01:26:18", "end": "01:26:24", "text": ">> Yeah. Mhm. Um"}, {"start": "01:26:21", "end": "01:26:25", "text": "But Satan, he sets up his throne in one"}, {"start": "01:26:24", "end": "01:26:27", "text": "place."}, {"start": "01:26:25", "end": "01:26:28", "text": "And I've always I've always jokingly"}, {"start": "01:26:27", "end": "01:26:32", "text": "like, \"Dude, it's LA.\""}, {"start": "01:26:28", "end": "01:26:33", "text": "But like I mean where where could it be,"}, {"start": "01:26:32", "end": "01:26:35", "text": "you know? Cuz it's not where he it"}, {"start": "01:26:33", "end": "01:26:37", "text": "wasn't scripture cuz that place is no"}, {"start": "01:26:35", "end": "01:26:39", "text": "longer like"}, {"start": "01:26:37", "end": "01:26:40", "text": "culturally relevant. I don't know. It's"}, {"start": "01:26:39", "end": "01:26:43", "text": "like I mean, think about the global"}, {"start": "01:26:40", "end": "01:26:44", "text": "reach. Mhm. Yeah. He's not going to be"}, {"start": "01:26:43", "end": "01:26:46", "text": "in some desert."}, {"start": "01:26:44", "end": "01:26:48", "text": ">> Yeah. Where there's no people, you know?"}, {"start": "01:26:46", "end": "01:26:50", "text": ">> can I have the most influence? Like he's"}, {"start": "01:26:48", "end": "01:26:51", "text": "a corrupter. He's a liar. He's like,"}, {"start": "01:26:50", "end": "01:26:53", "text": "\"Where can I tell the best lies and"}, {"start": "01:26:51", "end": "01:26:55", "text": "corrupt the most people?\" Like that's"}, {"start": "01:26:53", "end": "01:26:57", "text": ">> I mean, that just makes sense."}, {"start": "01:26:55", "end": "01:26:59", "text": ">> I'm amazed every time I listen to"}, {"start": "01:26:57", "end": "01:27:01", "text": "British uh TV shows, talk shows, or"}, {"start": "01:26:59", "end": "01:27:03", "text": "Korean talk shows. Like I'll just get"}, {"start": "01:27:01", "end": "01:27:05", "text": "clips or watch clips on YouTube, and"}, {"start": "01:27:03", "end": "01:27:07", "text": "people will always reference. I always"}, {"start": "01:27:05", "end": "01:27:08", "text": "wonder like, you know, like are is the"}, {"start": "01:27:07", "end": "01:27:10", "text": "whole world watching what we're"}, {"start": "01:27:08", "end": "01:27:12", "text": "watching? And they are. Like they'll"}, {"start": "01:27:10", "end": "01:27:14", "text": "reference, you know, John McClane or all"}, {"start": "01:27:12", "end": "01:27:16", "text": "these people that we've had in like"}, {"start": "01:27:14", "end": "01:27:18", "text": "cinema history. Because they're like"}, {"start": "01:27:16", "end": "01:27:21", "text": "they're watching what we're making."}, {"start": "01:27:18", "end": "01:27:24", "text": ">> Yeah, Hollywood basically is global."}, {"start": "01:27:21", "end": "01:27:25", "text": "100% 100% is. And so like that's that's"}, {"start": "01:27:24", "end": "01:27:27", "text": "the kind of thing. It's like you talk"}, {"start": "01:27:25", "end": "01:27:30", "text": "about influence. That's the that's the"}, {"start": "01:27:27", "end": "01:27:32", "text": "you know, like the epitome of influence."}, {"start": "01:27:30", "end": "01:27:34", "text": "Yeah. Or it's France."}, {"start": "01:27:32", "end": "01:27:35", "text": "No one's looking at France, dude."}, {"start": "01:27:34", "end": "01:27:37", "text": ">> Well, I think I think"}, {"start": "01:27:35", "end": "01:27:38", "text": "France is probably like fashion and like"}, {"start": "01:27:37", "end": "01:27:40", "text": "that stuff that's coming down Sounds"}, {"start": "01:27:38", "end": "01:27:43", "text": "like fashion to me."}, {"start": "01:27:40", "end": "01:27:45", "text": "Fashion Satan. Yeah. I I do I I am"}, {"start": "01:27:43", "end": "01:27:47", "text": "hopeful in that I think with the death"}, {"start": "01:27:45", "end": "01:27:50", "text": "of monoculture that everything isn't"}, {"start": "01:27:47", "end": "01:27:51", "text": "like centralized to like a you know,"}, {"start": "01:27:50", "end": "01:27:53", "text": "like think about like what was the last"}, {"start": "01:27:51", "end": "01:27:55", "text": "like mega star that we had, right? Like"}, {"start": "01:27:53", "end": "01:27:57", "text": "can't can't really think of anyone. I"}, {"start": "01:27:55", "end": "01:28:01", "text": "don't know. I can't think of anyone past"}, {"start": "01:27:57", "end": "01:28:03", "text": "maybe Justin Bieber like or right?"}, {"start": "01:28:01", "end": "01:28:04", "text": "Like that like so you don't have we"}, {"start": "01:28:03", "end": "01:28:06", "text": "don't have monoculture anymore."}, {"start": "01:28:04", "end": "01:28:08", "text": "Everything is so fragmented versus like"}, {"start": "01:28:06", "end": "01:28:10", "text": "the '80s when like I just saw the"}, {"start": "01:28:08", "end": "01:28:13", "text": "Michael movie and Michael was like"}, {"start": "01:28:10", "end": "01:28:15", "text": "bonkers. It was super famous. You don't"}, {"start": "01:28:13", "end": "01:28:17", "text": "have that anymore and so I think like"}, {"start": "01:28:15", "end": "01:28:19", "text": "the pros of that is now you can have"}, {"start": "01:28:17", "end": "01:28:20", "text": "these different pockets of media and"}, {"start": "01:28:19", "end": "01:28:21", "text": "pockets of Christian music and pockets"}, {"start": "01:28:20", "end": "01:28:22", "text": "of"}, {"start": "01:28:21", "end": "01:28:24", "text": "Christians that are in music, right?"}, {"start": "01:28:22", "end": "01:28:26", "text": "Like you guys saw at the summit like we"}, {"start": "01:28:24", "end": "01:28:28", "text": "had Jake, we had Paul Russell. These"}, {"start": "01:28:26", "end": "01:28:30", "text": "guys like love the Lord and they're"}, {"start": "01:28:28", "end": "01:28:31", "text": "mainstream secular artists but it's"}, {"start": "01:28:30", "end": "01:28:32", "text": "stuff I can play with my kids in the car"}, {"start": "01:28:31", "end": "01:28:34", "text": "and I feel good about it, right? So I"}, {"start": "01:28:32", "end": "01:28:35", "text": "think there's there's something"}, {"start": "01:28:34", "end": "01:28:38", "text": "happening where though we don't have"}, {"start": "01:28:35", "end": "01:28:39", "text": "monoculture but it's all separated and"}, {"start": "01:28:38", "end": "01:28:41", "text": "and then if you want good stuff you can"}, {"start": "01:28:39", "end": "01:28:43", "text": "find good stuff. Well, that's a cool"}, {"start": "01:28:41", "end": "01:28:47", "text": "thing too that we are on the winning"}, {"start": "01:28:43", "end": "01:28:49", "text": "side and like yo, if Satan is set up is"}, {"start": "01:28:47", "end": "01:28:51", "text": "thrown in LA, guess what? He can"}, {"start": "01:28:49", "end": "01:28:53", "text": "be driven out, you know, like it's the"}, {"start": "01:28:51", "end": "01:28:55", "text": "it's the followers of Christ, you know,"}, {"start": "01:28:53", "end": "01:28:57", "text": "that that light penetrating"}, {"start": "01:28:55", "end": "01:28:59", "text": "that can like really"}, {"start": "01:28:57", "end": "01:29:01", "text": "he can be like, yo, this city is too"}, {"start": "01:28:59", "end": "01:29:03", "text": "much for me now, you know?"}, {"start": "01:29:01", "end": "01:29:04", "text": "I'm not saying it's LA. I'm not saying"}, {"start": "01:29:03", "end": "01:29:05", "text": "LA is"}, {"start": "01:29:04", "end": "01:29:08", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "01:29:05", "end": "01:29:10", "text": ">> No, you're saying LA is Satan's"}, {"start": "01:29:08", "end": "01:29:11", "text": "Yeah. If we had to pick one place Just"}, {"start": "01:29:10", "end": "01:29:13", "text": "one place, I don't know."}, {"start": "01:29:11", "end": "01:29:15", "text": "I don't know. It's very strange. Are"}, {"start": "01:29:13", "end": "01:29:16", "text": "people from LA? Comment below, let us"}, {"start": "01:29:15", "end": "01:29:18", "text": "know. Oh, we're going to get scorched."}, {"start": "01:29:16", "end": "01:29:20", "text": "We're going to get scorched. You seen"}, {"start": "01:29:18", "end": "01:29:22", "text": "Satan around? No, man. Dude, was it I"}, {"start": "01:29:20", "end": "01:29:24", "text": "think was it Tripoli who was on and he"}, {"start": "01:29:22", "end": "01:29:25", "text": "was saying the same thing or somebody"}, {"start": "01:29:24", "end": "01:29:27", "text": "who like came from it? Yeah, he's just"}, {"start": "01:29:25", "end": "01:29:29", "text": "saying he was like doubling down on it."}, {"start": "01:29:27", "end": "01:29:32", "text": ">> Yeah, he's just saying like the"}, {"start": "01:29:29", "end": "01:29:33", "text": "California LA area is just like it's"}, {"start": "01:29:32", "end": "01:29:34", "text": "just different."}, {"start": "01:29:33", "end": "01:29:36", "text": ">> Yeah, or even Rogan without like"}, {"start": "01:29:34", "end": "01:29:38", "text": "spiritualizing it, he just like speaks"}, {"start": "01:29:36", "end": "01:29:40", "text": "to what it felt like and like why he"}, {"start": "01:29:38", "end": "01:29:42", "text": "needed to get out. So you know, like not"}, {"start": "01:29:40", "end": "01:29:44", "text": "I'm not putting spiritual words in his"}, {"start": "01:29:42", "end": "01:29:46", "text": "mouth but like No, even he was saying"}, {"start": "01:29:44", "end": "01:29:47", "text": "it's a real thing. He's like The the"}, {"start": "01:29:46", "end": "01:29:49", "text": "oppression there is crazy. I mean like"}, {"start": "01:29:47", "end": "01:29:52", "text": "Skid Row is now 50 blocks wide. Like"}, {"start": "01:29:49", "end": "01:29:54", "text": "that's crazy. Yeah, we we we had our"}, {"start": "01:29:52", "end": "01:29:56", "text": "event in Beverly Hills and I I'll spare"}, {"start": "01:29:54", "end": "01:29:59", "text": "you the details of how hard the event"}, {"start": "01:29:56", "end": "01:30:00", "text": "was but let's just say this is the"}, {"start": "01:29:59", "end": "01:30:03", "text": "hardest event we've ever done. Like just"}, {"start": "01:30:00", "end": "01:30:04", "text": "so much opposition but even after the"}, {"start": "01:30:03", "end": "01:30:07", "text": "event cuz I don't want to dunk on the"}, {"start": "01:30:04", "end": "01:30:08", "text": "venue but even after the event we leave,"}, {"start": "01:30:07", "end": "01:30:10", "text": "we get a hotel in Beverly Hills, right?"}, {"start": "01:30:08", "end": "01:30:11", "text": "Cuz it's the day before Mother's Day, so"}, {"start": "01:30:10", "end": "01:30:13", "text": "my wife and everyone drives over to hang"}, {"start": "01:30:11", "end": "01:30:14", "text": "out in Beverly Hills the next day. Like,"}, {"start": "01:30:13", "end": "01:30:15", "text": "cool."}, {"start": "01:30:14", "end": "01:30:17", "text": "I We get into the hotel, we're late,"}, {"start": "01:30:15", "end": "01:30:18", "text": "we're tired. There's a Thai restaurant"}, {"start": "01:30:17", "end": "01:30:21", "text": "across the street to go get food. So, I"}, {"start": "01:30:18", "end": "01:30:23", "text": "go get food. It's like 12:30 in the"}, {"start": "01:30:21", "end": "01:30:25", "text": "morning, right? Or or in the middle of"}, {"start": "01:30:23", "end": "01:30:26", "text": "the night. I order it on DoorDash, so"}, {"start": "01:30:25", "end": "01:30:27", "text": "I'm ready to I'm just going to pick it"}, {"start": "01:30:26", "end": "01:30:29", "text": "up. Uh"}, {"start": "01:30:27", "end": "01:30:30", "text": "DoorDash pick up. Go over there."}, {"start": "01:30:29", "end": "01:30:32", "text": "I get in and there's a car across the"}, {"start": "01:30:30", "end": "01:30:34", "text": "street, a white car, tinted windows"}, {"start": "01:30:32", "end": "01:30:36", "text": "across the street. I go in to get my"}, {"start": "01:30:34", "end": "01:30:39", "text": "food. When I get go to get my food, the"}, {"start": "01:30:36", "end": "01:30:41", "text": "car does a U-turn and pulls up like 40"}, {"start": "01:30:39", "end": "01:30:43", "text": "ft in front of me. So, I'm like, \"That's"}, {"start": "01:30:41", "end": "01:30:45", "text": "weird, you know? Like, my hotel is right"}, {"start": "01:30:43", "end": "01:30:47", "text": "here, but there's this car right here,"}, {"start": "01:30:45", "end": "01:30:48", "text": "right in front of me.\" So, I go back in"}, {"start": "01:30:47", "end": "01:30:50", "text": "the restaurant. I'm spooked out."}, {"start": "01:30:48", "end": "01:30:51", "text": ">> Yeah. I tell the owner. The owner looks"}, {"start": "01:30:50", "end": "01:30:52", "text": "at me, he's like, \"Yeah, that's weird."}, {"start": "01:30:51", "end": "01:30:55", "text": "Like, just stay in here.\" Sweet Asian"}, {"start": "01:30:52", "end": "01:30:58", "text": "guy. Uh he ends up turning off the close"}, {"start": "01:30:55", "end": "01:31:00", "text": "sign, right? And so, then I stand"}, {"start": "01:30:58", "end": "01:31:01", "text": "outside and I'm now right in front of"}, {"start": "01:31:00", "end": "01:31:03", "text": "the restaurant, just waiting. And a car"}, {"start": "01:31:01", "end": "01:31:04", "text": "reverses and goes and pulls up right in"}, {"start": "01:31:03", "end": "01:31:07", "text": "front of me. So, I go back in the"}, {"start": "01:31:04", "end": "01:31:08", "text": "restaurant, right? And he's like, \"Okay,"}, {"start": "01:31:07", "end": "01:31:10", "text": "just stay in here. Like, don't go"}, {"start": "01:31:08", "end": "01:31:11", "text": "outside anymore. Just stay in here.\" So,"}, {"start": "01:31:10", "end": "01:31:12", "text": "I'm just chilling and I'm like, \"Why"}, {"start": "01:31:11", "end": "01:31:13", "text": "Like, I can't stay in here forever.\""}, {"start": "01:31:12", "end": "01:31:15", "text": "I've been in there for like 10 minutes"}, {"start": "01:31:13", "end": "01:31:17", "text": "at this point. White car still out"}, {"start": "01:31:15", "end": "01:31:19", "text": "front. I go I go to him, I say, \"Hey,"}, {"start": "01:31:17", "end": "01:31:20", "text": "man, is there like a way out of the"}, {"start": "01:31:19", "end": "01:31:22", "text": "back?\" And he's like, \"Yeah.\" So, he"}, {"start": "01:31:20", "end": "01:31:24", "text": "walks me through like the kitchen. It's"}, {"start": "01:31:22", "end": "01:31:25", "text": "like a movie. Like, I'm walking through"}, {"start": "01:31:24", "end": "01:31:27", "text": "the kitchen. I'm going through and then"}, {"start": "01:31:25", "end": "01:31:28", "text": "he like takes me out of this alley and"}, {"start": "01:31:27", "end": "01:31:29", "text": "he's like, \"All right, here. Don't make"}, {"start": "01:31:28", "end": "01:31:31", "text": "a left. Don't make the first left. Go to"}, {"start": "01:31:29", "end": "01:31:33", "text": "the main street.\" This is off of Beverly"}, {"start": "01:31:31", "end": "01:31:35", "text": "Hills and Wilshire. Like, go to the main"}, {"start": "01:31:33", "end": "01:31:37", "text": "street, hit a left,"}, {"start": "01:31:35", "end": "01:31:39", "text": "and then just go straight to your hotel."}, {"start": "01:31:37", "end": "01:31:41", "text": "I go to the main street, there's another"}, {"start": "01:31:39", "end": "01:31:43", "text": "white car having some weird conversation"}, {"start": "01:31:41", "end": "01:31:44", "text": "with some dude who seems to be calling"}, {"start": "01:31:43", "end": "01:31:47", "text": "the police on it. And I'm like, \"Is this"}, {"start": "01:31:44", "end": "01:31:48", "text": "the same white car?\" I don't I don't"}, {"start": "01:31:47", "end": "01:31:49", "text": "know. So, then I'm like, \"All right, I'm"}, {"start": "01:31:48", "end": "01:31:51", "text": "just going to go for it.\" Like, I just"}, {"start": "01:31:49", "end": "01:31:52", "text": "walk really fast. The car stops. It's"}, {"start": "01:31:51", "end": "01:31:55", "text": "It's being weird. That car is being"}, {"start": "01:31:52", "end": "01:31:57", "text": "weird. I'm I got my food. I cross the"}, {"start": "01:31:55", "end": "01:31:59", "text": "main street."}, {"start": "01:31:57", "end": "01:31:59", "text": "The other white car is still there."}, {"start": "01:31:59", "end": "01:32:01", "text": ">> [snorts]"}, {"start": "01:31:59", "end": "01:32:05", "text": ">> Okay? So, then I just start I just book"}, {"start": "01:32:01", "end": "01:32:09", "text": "it and on Wilshire Boulevard with all of"}, {"start": "01:32:05", "end": "01:32:11", "text": "my Thai food I trip and fall."}, {"start": "01:32:09", "end": "01:32:13", "text": "And I got like sauce everywhere and"}, {"start": "01:32:11", "end": "01:32:15", "text": "curry all over me. So then I'm like"}, {"start": "01:32:13", "end": "01:32:18", "text": "picking it up trying to like see if this"}, {"start": "01:32:15", "end": "01:32:19", "text": "car is still looking at me and"}, {"start": "01:32:18", "end": "01:32:21", "text": "thankfully I got everything I ran into"}, {"start": "01:32:19", "end": "01:32:23", "text": "the car ran into the hotel. I'm like bro"}, {"start": "01:32:21", "end": "01:32:26", "text": "this is the weirdest night [laughter] I"}, {"start": "01:32:23", "end": "01:32:28", "text": "have ever had in my life covered in all"}, {"start": "01:32:26", "end": "01:32:30", "text": "this food and"}, {"start": "01:32:28", "end": "01:32:32", "text": "I was like was I about to get robbed?"}, {"start": "01:32:30", "end": "01:32:34", "text": "Like did they recognize me? Like what"}, {"start": "01:32:32", "end": "01:32:35", "text": "was going on? I don't know. And this is"}, {"start": "01:32:34", "end": "01:32:38", "text": "not I'm not in the hood. Like this is"}, {"start": "01:32:35", "end": "01:32:40", "text": "Beverly Hills, right? I'm in the good"}, {"start": "01:32:38", "end": "01:32:42", "text": "part of town and I was spooked out, you"}, {"start": "01:32:40", "end": "01:32:43", "text": "know? And my wife meanwhile like I"}, {"start": "01:32:42", "end": "01:32:45", "text": "couldn't tell like am I being paranoid"}, {"start": "01:32:43", "end": "01:32:47", "text": "or like am I just situationally aware?"}, {"start": "01:32:45", "end": "01:32:48", "text": ">> I I'm still a skeptic. I think he"}, {"start": "01:32:47", "end": "01:32:49", "text": "crapped himself and covered it up."}, {"start": "01:32:48", "end": "01:32:52", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "01:32:49", "end": "01:32:54", "text": ">> And that leads me to my new poop story."}, {"start": "01:32:52", "end": "01:32:54", "text": "I promise it's curry, babe."}, {"start": "01:32:54", "end": "01:32:57", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "01:32:54", "end": "01:32:58", "text": ">> Probably won't tie that again. Hey,"}, {"start": "01:32:57", "end": "01:33:00", "text": "you've been mad that you didn't come up"}, {"start": "01:32:58", "end": "01:33:01", "text": "with an egg pun since then."}, {"start": "01:33:00", "end": "01:33:03", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "01:33:01", "end": "01:33:05", "text": ">> That's crazy. Dude, you really curried"}, {"start": "01:33:03", "end": "01:33:06", "text": "this episode. Yeah, sorry. Yeah, man. I"}, {"start": "01:33:05", "end": "01:33:07", "text": "really curried it."}, {"start": "01:33:06", "end": "01:33:09", "text": ">> Dude, my brain went when you said curry"}, {"start": "01:33:07", "end": "01:33:11", "text": "went straight to poop. All them freaking"}, {"start": "01:33:09", "end": "01:33:13", "text": "newborn diaper changes did. It's"}, {"start": "01:33:11", "end": "01:33:14", "text": "dramatic."}, {"start": "01:33:13", "end": "01:33:15", "text": "Well, speaking of curry"}, {"start": "01:33:14", "end": "01:33:17", "text": ">> a baby? I did."}, {"start": "01:33:15", "end": "01:33:18", "text": ">> Hey, congratulations. Guys, everyone"}, {"start": "01:33:17", "end": "01:33:22", "text": "congratulate Andrew in the comments. He"}, {"start": "01:33:18", "end": "01:33:25", "text": "had a baby. He had a baby. All right. Uh"}, {"start": "01:33:22", "end": "01:33:26", "text": "the Grim Reaper. Mhm."}, {"start": "01:33:25", "end": "01:33:26", "text": "Do you know the origin story of the Grim"}, {"start": "01:33:26", "end": "01:33:29", "text": "Reaper?"}, {"start": "01:33:26", "end": "01:33:31", "text": ">> I don't. We've all like every growing up"}, {"start": "01:33:29", "end": "01:33:31", "text": "everyone knows about the Grim Reaper. We"}, {"start": "01:33:31", "end": "01:33:33", "text": "don't know where he came from."}, {"start": "01:33:31", "end": "01:33:34", "text": ">> I'm kind of shocked we didn't do that"}, {"start": "01:33:33", "end": "01:33:36", "text": "with how long we've been doing the show."}, {"start": "01:33:34", "end": "01:33:38", "text": "I know. Well, cuz I I saw it on this"}, {"start": "01:33:36", "end": "01:33:39", "text": "video today and we'll put their little"}, {"start": "01:33:38", "end": "01:33:42", "text": "YouTube here"}, {"start": "01:33:39", "end": "01:33:44", "text": "so they can get some credit. Um but in"}, {"start": "01:33:42", "end": "01:33:47", "text": "1559"}, {"start": "01:33:44", "end": "01:33:49", "text": "in Brandenburg, Germany Okay. these"}, {"start": "01:33:47", "end": "01:33:51", "text": "villagers were out and they looked out"}, {"start": "01:33:49", "end": "01:33:56", "text": "in the field and they said what appeared"}, {"start": "01:33:51", "end": "01:33:57", "text": "was 15 and then 12 hooded men."}, {"start": "01:33:56", "end": "01:34:00", "text": "Um they described him as dressed in"}, {"start": "01:33:57", "end": "01:34:03", "text": "black, having terrifying and distorted"}, {"start": "01:34:00", "end": "01:34:06", "text": "faces. Ooh. Some having, this is quote,"}, {"start": "01:34:03", "end": "01:34:09", "text": "little heads besides their postiers. I"}, {"start": "01:34:06", "end": "01:34:11", "text": "don't know what that means. Um, says"}, {"start": "01:34:09", "end": "01:34:13", "text": "possibly meaning grotesque deformities"}, {"start": "01:34:11", "end": "01:34:16", "text": "or demonic imagery."}, {"start": "01:34:13", "end": "01:34:17", "text": "Carrying long scythes, like sickles."}, {"start": "01:34:16", "end": "01:34:19", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:34:17", "end": "01:34:21", "text": "Um, and what they were doing, they're"}, {"start": "01:34:19", "end": "01:34:23", "text": "just standing in this field just"}, {"start": "01:34:21", "end": "01:34:25", "text": "swinging their sickles. Mhm. But they"}, {"start": "01:34:23", "end": "01:34:27", "text": "were just making these strange noises."}, {"start": "01:34:25", "end": "01:34:28", "text": "Like,"}, {"start": "01:34:27", "end": "01:34:31", "text": "Voom. But every time they swung, the"}, {"start": "01:34:28", "end": "01:34:32", "text": "grain wasn't falling."}, {"start": "01:34:31", "end": "01:34:34", "text": "And then, as they're everyone's watching"}, {"start": "01:34:32", "end": "01:34:36", "text": "them, they're like, this is the scariest"}, {"start": "01:34:34", "end": "01:34:40", "text": "looking thing ever. And then,"}, {"start": "01:34:36", "end": "01:34:42", "text": "disappeared. Gone. The next day,"}, {"start": "01:34:40", "end": "01:34:44", "text": "boom, bubonic plague hits that village."}, {"start": "01:34:42", "end": "01:34:46", "text": ">> Woah."}, {"start": "01:34:44", "end": "01:34:46", "text": "And you're like, well, that's weird,"}, {"start": "01:34:46", "end": "01:34:47", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "01:34:46", "end": "01:34:49", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:34:47", "end": "01:34:51", "text": "This happened all over Europe. People"}, {"start": "01:34:49", "end": "01:34:53", "text": "were talking about in fields, walking"}, {"start": "01:34:51", "end": "01:34:55", "text": "down streets, these hooded men with"}, {"start": "01:34:53", "end": "01:34:57", "text": "these sickle-like things."}, {"start": "01:34:55", "end": "01:34:58", "text": ">> Mhm. So, it was in, um,"}, {"start": "01:34:57", "end": "01:35:00", "text": "I think Holland,"}, {"start": "01:34:58", "end": "01:35:02", "text": "they were walking down the streets just"}, {"start": "01:35:00", "end": "01:35:04", "text": "swinging their sickles. And going to"}, {"start": "01:35:02", "end": "01:35:05", "text": "doors and just doing it to the doors."}, {"start": "01:35:04", "end": "01:35:09", "text": "And people were like, who are these"}, {"start": "01:35:05", "end": "01:35:10", "text": "people? Boom, disappeared. Next day,"}, {"start": "01:35:09", "end": "01:35:11", "text": "every door that they swung their"}, {"start": "01:35:10", "end": "01:35:13", "text": "sickles,"}, {"start": "01:35:11", "end": "01:35:14", "text": "dead."}, {"start": "01:35:13", "end": "01:35:15", "text": "Plague. Family."}, {"start": "01:35:14", "end": "01:35:17", "text": ">> Holy moly. Jeez."}, {"start": "01:35:15", "end": "01:35:18", "text": ">> And so, it just it started growing and"}, {"start": "01:35:17", "end": "01:35:21", "text": "growing into where they grew into the"}, {"start": "01:35:18", "end": "01:35:22", "text": "Grim Reaper. So, the Grim Reaper has"}, {"start": "01:35:21", "end": "01:35:23", "text": "like real"}, {"start": "01:35:22", "end": "01:35:26", "text": "lore behind it."}, {"start": "01:35:23", "end": "01:35:27", "text": ">> Yeah. It's death visiting you. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:35:26", "end": "01:35:28", "text": "Wow. That's"}, {"start": "01:35:27", "end": "01:35:30", "text": ">> That's crazy."}, {"start": "01:35:28", "end": "01:35:31", "text": ">> It's weird. I mean, it had to have came"}, {"start": "01:35:30", "end": "01:35:33", "text": "from something. Golly, dude. Like,"}, {"start": "01:35:31", "end": "01:35:35", "text": "that's crazy. Yeah, what is it? Bill"}, {"start": "01:35:33", "end": "01:35:37", "text": "Gates is a time traveler, dude. They're"}, {"start": "01:35:35", "end": "01:35:39", "text": "just weird hazmat suits. He's spraying"}, {"start": "01:35:37", "end": "01:35:40", "text": "stuff. Yeah. Well, they they even talk"}, {"start": "01:35:39", "end": "01:35:43", "text": "about it cuz they they the only way they"}, {"start": "01:35:40", "end": "01:35:44", "text": "could describe it as is the the sickles"}, {"start": "01:35:43", "end": "01:35:46", "text": "are the siths or whatever."}, {"start": "01:35:44", "end": "01:35:48", "text": ">> Yeah. But there's like one account to"}, {"start": "01:35:46", "end": "01:35:50", "text": "where it's like, it basically it sounded"}, {"start": "01:35:48", "end": "01:35:52", "text": "like something that was spraying, like a"}, {"start": "01:35:50", "end": "01:35:53", "text": "like a sprayer. Yeah. So, like this rod"}, {"start": "01:35:52", "end": "01:35:56", "text": "that was in the sickle part was the"}, {"start": "01:35:53", "end": "01:35:59", "text": "actual like a spray. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:35:56", "end": "01:36:02", "text": "Population control, dude. Interesting,"}, {"start": "01:35:59", "end": "01:36:03", "text": "man. Weird. That's spooky. I wonder why"}, {"start": "01:36:02", "end": "01:36:04", "text": "the sickle."}, {"start": "01:36:03", "end": "01:36:08", "text": "You know, like that like cuz it was"}, {"start": "01:36:04", "end": "01:36:08", "text": "obviously used to cut Yeah, like"}, {"start": "01:36:08", "end": "01:36:08", "text": "We put you"}, {"start": "01:36:08", "end": "01:36:09", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "01:36:08", "end": "01:36:12", "text": ">> up."}, {"start": "01:36:09", "end": "01:36:13", "text": "We put you up. What did you just say?"}, {"start": "01:36:12", "end": "01:36:16", "text": "Say that again."}, {"start": "01:36:13", "end": "01:36:18", "text": "Um but yeah, that that is interesting. I"}, {"start": "01:36:16", "end": "01:36:19", "text": "wonder if there's any I mean this is"}, {"start": "01:36:18", "end": "01:36:21", "text": "where my mind went, but like when you"}, {"start": "01:36:19", "end": "01:36:23", "text": "say field and you say sickle, it makes"}, {"start": "01:36:21", "end": "01:36:25", "text": "me think of crop circles."}, {"start": "01:36:23", "end": "01:36:27", "text": "I wonder if there is like correlation"}, {"start": "01:36:25", "end": "01:36:29", "text": "between crop circles and you know, like"}, {"start": "01:36:27", "end": "01:36:31", "text": ">> There's not. death. You looked it up?"}, {"start": "01:36:29", "end": "01:36:31", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "01:36:32", "end": "01:36:33", "text": ">> There's there's nothing connected to"}, {"start": "01:36:33", "end": "01:36:34", "text": "that."}, {"start": "01:36:33", "end": "01:36:37", "text": ">> Darn."}, {"start": "01:36:34", "end": "01:36:38", "text": "That's scary, dude. Could you imagine?"}, {"start": "01:36:37", "end": "01:36:40", "text": "Like not knowing like cuz obviously we"}, {"start": "01:36:38", "end": "01:36:43", "text": "see guy in hooded a hooded, you know,"}, {"start": "01:36:40", "end": "01:36:45", "text": "like black cloak and we see a sickle we"}, {"start": "01:36:43", "end": "01:36:47", "text": "like driving a white Mercedes. Right"}, {"start": "01:36:45", "end": "01:36:48", "text": "white car [laughter] with tinted"}, {"start": "01:36:47", "end": "01:36:50", "text": "windows. Think about how scary that has"}, {"start": "01:36:48", "end": "01:36:52", "text": "to be though. If you're like you're in"}, {"start": "01:36:50", "end": "01:36:54", "text": "the town, everyone around you starts"}, {"start": "01:36:52", "end": "01:36:56", "text": "dying. So you dip to the next town and"}, {"start": "01:36:54", "end": "01:36:58", "text": "you start telling everybody these hooded"}, {"start": "01:36:56", "end": "01:37:00", "text": "figures showed up. You're like that's"}, {"start": "01:36:58", "end": "01:37:02", "text": "spooky. This dude's crazy though. I"}, {"start": "01:37:00", "end": "01:37:04", "text": "don't know like what he's doing in our"}, {"start": "01:37:02", "end": "01:37:05", "text": "town. And then the hooded people show"}, {"start": "01:37:04", "end": "01:37:07", "text": "up."}, {"start": "01:37:05", "end": "01:37:08", "text": ">> Yeah. Well, that's that was the weirdest"}, {"start": "01:37:07", "end": "01:37:11", "text": "part too is that it wasn't just like a"}, {"start": "01:37:08", "end": "01:37:13", "text": "like a very regional lore. It was a lot"}, {"start": "01:37:11", "end": "01:37:15", "text": "of countries in Europe that were getting"}, {"start": "01:37:13", "end": "01:37:17", "text": "hit by the bubonic plague. Which I"}, {"start": "01:37:15", "end": "01:37:18", "text": "looked up the bubonic plague then I'm"}, {"start": "01:37:17", "end": "01:37:20", "text": "like the 1500s I'm like I thought it was"}, {"start": "01:37:18", "end": "01:37:24", "text": "way earlier than that. It was. It was"}, {"start": "01:37:20", "end": "01:37:27", "text": "like the 1300s when it first hit Europe"}, {"start": "01:37:24", "end": "01:37:29", "text": "and they say 50 50 to 60% of Europeans"}, {"start": "01:37:27", "end": "01:37:31", "text": "died in the bubonic plague. My gosh."}, {"start": "01:37:29", "end": "01:37:33", "text": "Terrifying. But it would come in waves"}, {"start": "01:37:31", "end": "01:37:35", "text": "after. So it wasn't just like it was"}, {"start": "01:37:33", "end": "01:37:38", "text": "done. It's like no, this is the 1500s."}, {"start": "01:37:35", "end": "01:37:39", "text": "This is 200 years later. A wave would"}, {"start": "01:37:38", "end": "01:37:41", "text": "hit."}, {"start": "01:37:39", "end": "01:37:43", "text": "And it would just wipe out that village."}, {"start": "01:37:41", "end": "01:37:45", "text": "It's from rats, right? Yeah. Supposedly."}, {"start": "01:37:43", "end": "01:37:47", "text": "Fleas in the rats. Yeah, it was the"}, {"start": "01:37:45", "end": "01:37:50", "text": "fleas on the rat."}, {"start": "01:37:47", "end": "01:37:51", "text": "Reminds Reminds me of uh the Billy and"}, {"start": "01:37:50", "end": "01:37:53", "text": "Mandy. Do you guys remember that? The"}, {"start": "01:37:51", "end": "01:37:55", "text": "adventures of the"}, {"start": "01:37:53", "end": "01:37:56", "text": "Billy and Mandy? It was the Grim Reaper."}, {"start": "01:37:55", "end": "01:37:58", "text": "Like he was the one of the cartoon"}, {"start": "01:37:56", "end": "01:37:59", "text": "characters. No. You don't remember that?"}, {"start": "01:37:58", "end": "01:38:01", "text": ">> No. Golly, that was"}, {"start": "01:37:59", "end": "01:38:03", "text": ">> a Reaper cartoon, but I don't I don't"}, {"start": "01:38:01", "end": "01:38:06", "text": "remember anything about it."}, {"start": "01:38:03", "end": "01:38:07", "text": "Yeah, that was Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah."}, {"start": "01:38:06", "end": "01:38:08", "text": "Yeah, it was it was a Cartoon Network, I"}, {"start": "01:38:07", "end": "01:38:10", "text": "think."}, {"start": "01:38:08", "end": "01:38:12", "text": ">> I I drew the line at Cartoon Network. I"}, {"start": "01:38:10", "end": "01:38:13", "text": "always those vibes. I don't think I was"}, {"start": "01:38:12", "end": "01:38:14", "text": "allowed to watch it really."}, {"start": "01:38:13", "end": "01:38:14", "text": ">> messed up. It was pretty good."}, {"start": "01:38:14", "end": "01:38:16", "text": "[clears throat]"}, {"start": "01:38:14", "end": "01:38:17", "text": ">> It got dark after dark. I remember that."}, {"start": "01:38:16", "end": "01:38:19", "text": "Yeah, yeah, yeah. This stuff, man, this"}, {"start": "01:38:17", "end": "01:38:21", "text": "is"}, {"start": "01:38:19", "end": "01:38:24", "text": "weird. I think it's a cartoon. Oh my"}, {"start": "01:38:21", "end": "01:38:24", "text": "gosh, what is this? I prefer racist Bugs"}, {"start": "01:38:24", "end": "01:38:25", "text": "Bunny."}, {"start": "01:38:24", "end": "01:38:26", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "01:38:25", "end": "01:38:27", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:38:26", "end": "01:38:31", "text": "Yeah, I'll take"}, {"start": "01:38:27", "end": "01:38:32", "text": "Oh, man. Aliens, Grim Reapers, Grim"}, {"start": "01:38:31", "end": "01:38:33", "text": "Reapers? Grim Reaper?"}, {"start": "01:38:32", "end": "01:38:35", "text": ">> Grim."}, {"start": "01:38:33", "end": "01:38:35", "text": "Very happy Reaper."}, {"start": "01:38:35", "end": "01:38:36", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "01:38:35", "end": "01:38:39", "text": ">> He's happy with what he sewed."}, {"start": "01:38:36", "end": "01:38:40", "text": ">> Yes. Um"}, {"start": "01:38:39", "end": "01:38:41", "text": "We got an episode right after this,"}, {"start": "01:38:40", "end": "01:38:42", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "01:38:41", "end": "01:38:44", "text": ">> Yeah. Ruslan, are you cool for a Patreon"}, {"start": "01:38:42", "end": "01:38:45", "text": "episode right after this?"}, {"start": "01:38:44", "end": "01:38:47", "text": ">> Let's do it. We're going to run it back"}, {"start": "01:38:45", "end": "01:38:48", "text": "with Ruslan KD, folks. Ruslan, before we"}, {"start": "01:38:47", "end": "01:38:50", "text": "go,"}, {"start": "01:38:48", "end": "01:38:52", "text": "tell everyone where they can find you,"}, {"start": "01:38:50", "end": "01:38:54", "text": "what you got to plug, where they What"}, {"start": "01:38:52", "end": "01:38:57", "text": "What What you got going on? Yeah, Ruslan"}, {"start": "01:38:54", "end": "01:39:00", "text": "KD on all platforms. The new book, Godly"}, {"start": "01:38:57", "end": "01:39:02", "text": "Ambition, is out. It's a USA Today"}, {"start": "01:39:00", "end": "01:39:04", "text": "bestseller. I couldn't reach New York"}, {"start": "01:39:02", "end": "01:39:06", "text": "Times bestsellers this, but we did reach"}, {"start": "01:39:04", "end": "01:39:07", "text": "USA Today bestseller, and I think You"}, {"start": "01:39:06", "end": "01:39:08", "text": "should call it a bestseller. A"}, {"start": "01:39:07", "end": "01:39:09", "text": "bestseller. I'm a bestselling author."}, {"start": "01:39:08", "end": "01:39:12", "text": "Dang."}, {"start": "01:39:09", "end": "01:39:13", "text": ">> At the time of this recording, it uh I"}, {"start": "01:39:12", "end": "01:39:15", "text": "want to say it's like 15 bucks on"}, {"start": "01:39:13", "end": "01:39:17", "text": "Amazon. Amazon's running a sale right"}, {"start": "01:39:15", "end": "01:39:19", "text": "now, which they could pick it up there."}, {"start": "01:39:17", "end": "01:39:21", "text": "Uh yeah, Godly Ambition's all about"}, {"start": "01:39:19", "end": "01:39:23", "text": "using your talent your talent, your"}, {"start": "01:39:21", "end": "01:39:24", "text": "treasure to reach your full potential"}, {"start": "01:39:23", "end": "01:39:26", "text": "and walking people through stuff like"}, {"start": "01:39:24", "end": "01:39:28", "text": "purpose and calling. You guys got a copy"}, {"start": "01:39:26", "end": "01:39:30", "text": "of it right there. Let's go. Yeah, so"}, {"start": "01:39:28", "end": "01:39:32", "text": "it's been a It's been really cool. Like"}, {"start": "01:39:30", "end": "01:39:33", "text": "the feedback of the book has definitely"}, {"start": "01:39:32", "end": "01:39:37", "text": "went beyond"}, {"start": "01:39:33", "end": "01:39:40", "text": "uh just my core YouTube audience."}, {"start": "01:39:37", "end": "01:39:42", "text": "Yeah. And I have Tilt it down. It's kind"}, {"start": "01:39:40", "end": "01:39:43", "text": "of blown out. There you go. Yeah, I've"}, {"start": "01:39:42", "end": "01:39:45", "text": "had a blast just meeting folks that like"}, {"start": "01:39:43", "end": "01:39:46", "text": "are reading it. It's It's a trip to like"}, {"start": "01:39:45", "end": "01:39:47", "text": "be in a room and like half the room has"}, {"start": "01:39:46", "end": "01:39:48", "text": "read your book, you know."}, {"start": "01:39:47", "end": "01:39:49", "text": ">> That's very cool."}, {"start": "01:39:48", "end": "01:39:51", "text": ">> It's super cool. And yeah, it's all this"}, {"start": "01:39:49", "end": "01:39:53", "text": "stuff on there from"}, {"start": "01:39:51", "end": "01:39:55", "text": "you know, talent stacking to mastering"}, {"start": "01:39:53", "end": "01:39:56", "text": "the fundamentals to defeating"}, {"start": "01:39:55", "end": "01:39:59", "text": "distraction and then like"}, {"start": "01:39:56", "end": "01:40:01", "text": "broader concepts like identity and"}, {"start": "01:39:59", "end": "01:40:02", "text": "calling and purpose and those things."}, {"start": "01:40:01", "end": "01:40:04", "text": "Yeah, so it's been the feedback's been"}, {"start": "01:40:02", "end": "01:40:06", "text": "nuts. And then I did a album titled the"}, {"start": "01:40:04", "end": "01:40:08", "text": "same thing which I have just been"}, {"start": "01:40:06", "end": "01:40:10", "text": "selling at shows. So we sell CDs at"}, {"start": "01:40:08", "end": "01:40:14", "text": "shows and then you can open it scan the"}, {"start": "01:40:10", "end": "01:40:15", "text": "QR code and it takes you to a YouTube"}, {"start": "01:40:14", "end": "01:40:17", "text": "unlisted YouTube playlist of a whole"}, {"start": "01:40:15", "end": "01:40:19", "text": "album that I may or may not put the full"}, {"start": "01:40:17", "end": "01:40:20", "text": "thing on Spotify yet. I'm not 100% sure."}, {"start": "01:40:19", "end": "01:40:22", "text": "You should. That'd be awesome."}, {"start": "01:40:20", "end": "01:40:24", "text": ">> So yeah. Yeah, I mean it I feel like"}, {"start": "01:40:22", "end": "01:40:27", "text": "just like the DSP game and like that"}, {"start": "01:40:24", "end": "01:40:29", "text": "game is so weird that I think trying to"}, {"start": "01:40:27", "end": "01:40:31", "text": "get people to buy physicals again and"}, {"start": "01:40:29", "end": "01:40:32", "text": "I'm going to do a vinyl. I think it's"}, {"start": "01:40:31", "end": "01:40:34", "text": "that that's been fun. You know, we'll do"}, {"start": "01:40:32", "end": "01:40:36", "text": "a vinyl for it as well. And so yeah, so"}, {"start": "01:40:34", "end": "01:40:38", "text": "book book and album. Cassettes too,"}, {"start": "01:40:36", "end": "01:40:40", "text": "yeah. We'll do some cassettes. You also"}, {"start": "01:40:38", "end": "01:40:41", "text": "got that 60-day devotional, right till I"}, {"start": "01:40:40", "end": "01:40:42", "text": "come, right? That's available to buy?"}, {"start": "01:40:41", "end": "01:40:44", "text": "That's available to buy."}, {"start": "01:40:42", "end": "01:40:45", "text": ">> got one. That was That's great."}, {"start": "01:40:44", "end": "01:40:47", "text": ">> Yeah, that's that's one of our best"}, {"start": "01:40:45", "end": "01:40:49", "text": "sellers. Uh"}, {"start": "01:40:47", "end": "01:40:51", "text": "That's super fun and because it has"}, {"start": "01:40:49", "end": "01:40:52", "text": "custom journal prompts. So you read like"}, {"start": "01:40:51", "end": "01:40:54", "text": "you go through the entire narrative of"}, {"start": "01:40:52", "end": "01:40:55", "text": "scripture in 60 days and then every"}, {"start": "01:40:54", "end": "01:40:57", "text": "single day there's custom journal"}, {"start": "01:40:55", "end": "01:40:58", "text": "prompts and a section for prayer"}, {"start": "01:40:57", "end": "01:41:00", "text": "requests. And so like I think what"}, {"start": "01:40:58", "end": "01:41:01", "text": "people discover is like hey, if I just"}, {"start": "01:41:00", "end": "01:41:03", "text": "jot my prayers down, just write the"}, {"start": "01:41:01", "end": "01:41:05", "text": "things I'm praying to the Lord for for"}, {"start": "01:41:03", "end": "01:41:07", "text": "60 days, you'll be shocked how many"}, {"start": "01:41:05", "end": "01:41:08", "text": "things actually get answered that we"}, {"start": "01:41:07", "end": "01:41:08", "text": "pray for and forget."}, {"start": "01:41:08", "end": "01:41:10", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:41:08", "end": "01:41:12", "text": ">> You know, so we push people like hey,"}, {"start": "01:41:10", "end": "01:41:13", "text": "document your prayers cuz Lord Lord be"}, {"start": "01:41:12", "end": "01:41:15", "text": "moving. God be moving and answering"}, {"start": "01:41:13", "end": "01:41:17", "text": "stuff. We just forget because we're busy"}, {"start": "01:41:15", "end": "01:41:19", "text": "and we're running around. So Cuz he'll"}, {"start": "01:41:17", "end": "01:41:20", "text": "make he may say no to something and then"}, {"start": "01:41:19", "end": "01:41:20", "text": "something better comes along."}, {"start": "01:41:20", "end": "01:41:21", "text": ">> Amen."}, {"start": "01:41:20", "end": "01:41:23", "text": ">> Yeah. Amen. Yeah, so yeah, the"}, {"start": "01:41:21", "end": "01:41:25", "text": "blessgod.co for all that stuff."}, {"start": "01:41:23", "end": "01:41:27", "text": ">> And you have the conference everyone can"}, {"start": "01:41:25", "end": "01:41:29", "text": "sign up. Is it the sign up?"}, {"start": "01:41:27", "end": "01:41:30", "text": ">> list Okay. for if they go to like any of"}, {"start": "01:41:29", "end": "01:41:31", "text": "our previous videos we've released they"}, {"start": "01:41:30", "end": "01:41:33", "text": "can sign up for it. Or just go to"}, {"start": "01:41:31", "end": "01:41:34", "text": "blessgodsummer.com."}, {"start": "01:41:33", "end": "01:41:36", "text": "Uh I think it's happening"}, {"start": "01:41:34", "end": "01:41:39", "text": "about a month after Easter. So like end"}, {"start": "01:41:36", "end": "01:41:40", "text": "of April 2027. So God willing we have"}, {"start": "01:41:39", "end": "01:41:42", "text": "you guys back. We're starting to kind of"}, {"start": "01:41:40", "end": "01:41:44", "text": "finalize the lineup and hopefully you'll"}, {"start": "01:41:42", "end": "01:41:45", "text": "be there. Could bring your new baby and"}, {"start": "01:41:44", "end": "01:41:46", "text": "enjoy the beach."}, {"start": "01:41:45", "end": "01:41:48", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:41:46", "end": "01:41:48", "text": ">> Yeah. Heck yeah. 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HEARTLESS"}, {"start": "01:42:32", "end": "01:42:35", "text": ">> [music]"}, {"start": "01:42:32", "end": "01:42:35", "text": ">> HEARTLESS"}, {"start": "01:42:36", "end": "01:42:38", "text": "HEARTLESS"}, {"start": "01:42:39", "end": "01:42:44", "text": "heartless"}, {"start": "01:42:41", "end": "01:42:44", "text": "How could [music] you be so heartless?"}]

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[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "Kamicazi dolphins. Pardon?"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:08", "text": ">> This is crazy. Right now, there are 85"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "bottl-nosed dolphins employed by the US"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "Navy and like 50 sea lions. This isn't a"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "new idea either. This has gone back to"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "Vietnam times. It's crazy. Back in the"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "day, they would train them to go and"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "find certain mines would strap these"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "little tiny explosive devices for the"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "dolphins to place. But now they're"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "talking about kamicazi dolphins where"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "you literally strap a larger explosive"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "to a dolphin. literally bombs on these"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "dolphins and they run them into either"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "mines or to ships and that's what makes"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "them explode and the dolphins die. This"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "is why it's illegal to talk to dolphins."}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "It is a federal offense to interact with"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "a dolphin in any way beyond the confines"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "of like you know like you don't know"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "which dolphins they're training but"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "people have gotten in trouble with like"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "being on the side of a boat and know not"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "even touching the dolphin but like"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "interacting and talking with yes trouble"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "and it's like of course we would use"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "them for weapons as a bad guy. You're"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "like, \"Yes.\" It's like freaking sharks"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "with laser beams, right?"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:03", "text": ">> Attached to their freaking head."}]

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The material will fight"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "you every step of the way. And yet,"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "looking at the surface of this disc, can"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "see that the markings don't look like"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "somebody has had any trouble carving the"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "stone. They look more like they've been"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "stamped or even printed onto it rather"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "than carved. I mean the there are"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "shallow precise incisions that catch the"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "light when he moves it just right. 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And at 6:00,"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "there's a man and a woman again. But"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "there are also these other forms that"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "don't look entirely human. Frog or snake"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "like beings are shown alongside the"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "human figures. And there's something"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "that looks almost like it's showing"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "cellular division where cells will split"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "and multiply and progress along through"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "stages. 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And for thousands of"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "years, the main explanation was"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "something called spontaneous generation."}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "Spontaneous generation was the belief"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "that living creatures just appeared out"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "of non-living things. For example,"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "people in the Middle Ages thought that"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "frogs were born out of mud. The rats and"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "mice that carried the plague were"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "thought to have just popped up from"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "garbage. In ancient Greece, they thought"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "that bees came from dead cattle and"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "wasps from dead horses. Now, this wasn't"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "just folklore. Even the brightest minds"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "back then accepted it as fact because"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "they simply had no way of seeing what"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "was actually happening. But all that"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "changed when the microscope was invented"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "in the 1590s. And before that, the"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "entire invisible world, bacteria, cells,"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "microorganisms,"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "all of it simply didn't exist as far as"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "anyone knew. But once people started"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "using these new tools, they began to"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "grasp and understand reproduction. In"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "1677, a Dutch scientist named Anthony"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "von Levenhook and his student observed"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "sperm through an early microscope. In"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "the 1800s, the female egg was identified"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "by Carl Ernst von Bear. But even after"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "microscopes existed, many of them"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "believed in something called"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "preformationism."}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "And this is the idea that tiny"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "fullyformed human beings were curled up"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "inside each sperm cell just waiting to"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "grow. And all of this means is that the"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "disc that Haimey is holding in his hands"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "seems to somewhat depict this if not"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "pretty accurately. And it seems to have"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "been made thousands of years ago, way,"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "way before any of that knowledge should"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "have existed. And all that's before we"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "even address the other figures, the ones"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "resembling frogs and snakes. Were those"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "some sort of way of showing the theory"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "of evolution that human beings evolved"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "from primitive life forms? Now, for"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "these reasons, the artifact that Haimey"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "discovered in Colombia has become known"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "publicly as the genetic disc. Now,"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "that's just a name that people would"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "give it later because right now he can"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "only suspect that this is something that"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "was made by somebody with modern"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "knowledge and then simply dropped into"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "the collector world with a story already"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "attached. Where did this come from? We"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "know it surfaced in Colombia, but where"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "was it discovered specifically? What"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "site? What culture? Who found it? Who"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "documented the chain of custody from the"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "excavation to Haime's hands? Well, this"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "question continued to bug Haimey. And"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "weeks later, after he left the room with"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "this disc in his bag, he was back on the"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "same kind of road as before. But only"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "this time, he wasn't hunting for an"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "object he did not have. He was trying to"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "find an answer for the one that he did."}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "The specific road that Jaime took that"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "day, the person that he met, and where"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "the object first appeared exactly, well,"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "none of those details are clear. There's"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "really no public record and even Haimey"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "hasn't been entirely forthcoming about"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "the circumstances. But what we do know"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "is that the world that artifact hunters"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "like him existed in, it's just like in"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "the movies. Rumors, informants, cloth"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "wrapped bundles, carved pieces on"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "tables, you know, the whole nine yards."}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "Now he's back in the same kind of room"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "where he found the disc in the first"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "place. A space that's practically"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "identical. And he's staring across the"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "table at somebody. He's tracked down"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "someone who he's heard might know a"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "little bit more about it than he does."}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "And he just asks, \"Where did it come"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "from? Who had it? Is there a story"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "behind it?\" The person across from him"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "gave him an answer. It just wasn't an"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "answer that really ever landed. rumors"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "mostly because it was a name attached to"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "a place attached to a story that ended"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "with somebody who died years ago. But"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "Haimey of course was desperate for"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "information. So he wrote it all down. He"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "nodded, said thank you. He followed up"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "on the lead and when it came to a dead"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "end, he started all over again and went"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "looking for the next person who might be"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "able to help. The next lead that Jaime"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "followed up with had pretty much the"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "same story. a different name, a"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "different place, another vague ending,"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "and the person after that, vagger still."}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "By the third or fourth time he did this,"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "Haimey finally understood what was"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "happening. The disc had been in"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "somebody's hands and then somebody"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "else's. And at some point, the original"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "ground that the object had come out of,"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "if it came out of the ground at all, had"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "stopped being part of the original"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "story. The artifact had outlived its"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "origin. One theory that circulated for"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "years involved a man named Father Carlo"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "Cresby Crochi, an Italian missionary."}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "Now, Father Cresby had been stationed in"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "Quanka, Ecuador in the middle of the"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "20th century. Everyone knew that he'd"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "been an avid collector of artifacts from"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "all across South America. And in fact, I"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "even did a video recently that talks"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "about him. You can go ahead and watch"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "that here. Some of them he purchased,"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "others the locals had given him after"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "finding them in the jungle. But in the"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "end, he had accumulated a ton of"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "artifacts. Objects that ranged from"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "simple ceramic pieces made by known"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "cultures to mysterious stone tablets"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "covered in drawings and inscriptions"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "that nobody recognized. It stood to"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "reason that with the collection that"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "large, maybe Father Kresby had owned the"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "disc before it found its way to Haimey."}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "And honestly, he had to admit that this"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "one was an explanation that made sense."}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "But the more he thought about it, the"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "more it didn't quite add up without"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "extraordinary circumstances. The town of"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "Quanka, where Father Kresby lived, was"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "well over 400 miles from where Haimey"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "found the disc in Sudatsa. And in 1962,"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "2 years before Haimey found the genetic"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "disc, a fire had destroyed most if not"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "all of Father Kresby's collection, and"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "he had passed away since. So, the"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "connection was never confirmed. It was"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "just another dead end. Haimey was left"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "in a very uncertain situation. If the"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "disc was truly ancient, the reproductive"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "imagery created a serious timeline issue"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "because that would mean that somebody"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "depicted the microscopic stages of human"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "development long before knowledge"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "existed, at least publicly. It would"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "completely upend our history of science,"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "even our understanding of human"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "civilization. But Haimey also realized"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "that if it was modern or fabricated,"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "that also was an issue because then"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "you'd have to answer to who made it,"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "when, and why, and how it ended up in a"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "tiny town in rural Colombia. Maybe the"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "object and its carvings were authentic,"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "but modern viewers like himself were"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "just misinterpreting it. The modern"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "perspective might be imposing a"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "biological interpretation onto ambiguous"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "symbols. But if that was the case, then"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "it was pretty clear that he'd never get"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "to the bottom of what the genetic disc"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "was. Haimey decided that he didn't have"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "to figure all this out right away. He"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "decided he was going to just spend some"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "time with the artifact and see if"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "anything came to him. And so he kept it,"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "he cleaned it, he photographed it under"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "different lighting. And every now and"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "then, he'd bring it out to show various"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "people. and he'd hold it under lamps and"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "let others move their eyes across the"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "carvings just like he had the first time"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "he saw it. And he'd point at all the"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "forms and turn the disc over to show"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "both faces. And he'd wait for a"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "response. Everybody was always amazed,"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "but no one ever knew what to make of it."}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "Well, over time, he kept showing the"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "discs to more and more people, and"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "eventually it moved past him and into"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "wider circles. In 2001, a researcher and"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "curator named Klaus Adana included it in"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "an exhibition he organized in Vienna,"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "Austria. The event was called Unsolved"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "Mysteries. Now, Klaus had been working"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "to bring unusual artifacts to"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "international attention for years now,"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "and when Haimey loaned the genetic disc"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "to him, it became one of his signature"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "pieces. Now since then it has showed up"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "in documentaries, podcasts, online"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "debates and alternative history"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "discussion but like Haimey Klouse was"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "always in search of answers much like we"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "all are. So during this exhibition he"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "actually reached out to Dr. Vera MF"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "Hammer. Vera is a minologist and curator"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "at the Natural History Museum in Vienna."}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "And Klaus wondered if maybe she'd be"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "willing to examine the disc. If any"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "institution could shed light on the"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "artifacts origins and authenticity, it"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "would be somebody like the museum. Well,"}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "she agreed and she conducted what's"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "called an X-ray defraction or XRD"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "analysis, which can help identify what"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "material an object is actually made out"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "of. The analysis suggested that the disc"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "consisted of feldspar, quartz, and"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "micica. But even these results failed to"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "settle anything. The former director of"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "the museum, who was a prologist,"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "suggested that the disc could still be"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "made of lidite or possibly an artificial"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "product made from those minerals."}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "Unfortunately, that was pretty much the"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "extent of the finding. But now because"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "there were so many unknowns with this"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "disc, even Clausa was on a quest to"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:04", "text": "authenticate the genetic disc. And after"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "shopping it around, he supposedly had"}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "the disc examined at a university in"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "Bogotaa. The researchers there"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "reportedly determined that it didn't"}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "match any existing Colombian culture."}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "Though they did suggest that it was old,"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "and I'm talking very old, like at least"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "6,000 years. And if that is true, then"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "the disc would predate the emergence of"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "all early organized civilizations that"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "mainstream archaeology recognizes."}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:37", "text": "Shocker. Not even cultures in"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "Mesopotamia and dynastic Egypt are"}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "really that old. I mean, it would make"}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "the disc borderline prehistoric."}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "However, there is an issue. Klouse never"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "provided the names of those researchers"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:53", "text": "at the university, and that made"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "independent verification impossible."}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "That's not the only problem, though,"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "that skeptics had with the genetic disc."}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "Some museum scientists felt that most of"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "the objects in Klaus's Unsolved"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "Mysteries exhibition weren't what they"}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:09", "text": "claimed to be. They said that some had"}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:11", "text": "sketchy provenence. Others said that"}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "some of the artifacts were authentic,"}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "but just completely misinterpreted. Some"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "researchers were granted access to"}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "examine the disc more closely."}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:23", "text": "Proponents of its authenticity had"}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:26", "text": "suggested the artifact might just be"}, {"start": "00:21:23", "end": "00:21:28", "text": "associated with the Moisa people, which"}, {"start": "00:21:26", "end": "00:21:31", "text": "were a very powerful indigenous"}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "civilization that inhabited parts of"}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "Colombia long before the Spanish ever"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "arrived. And we know that they had a"}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "rich mining tradition and a very"}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "sophisticated culture. exactly the kind"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "of people who would make something like"}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:49", "text": "the genetic disc. Haimey and Klaus were"}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "excited to hear that this was a"}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "possibility. It suggested that this was"}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "real, but the truth remains up in the"}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "air. Because while the location and the"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "time period line up, the rest of the"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "comparison doesn't. And from what we all"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:07", "text": "know about Moisa's artwork and"}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:10", "text": "craftsmanship, it doesn't really seem to"}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "resemble the imagery on the disc. So, it"}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:14", "text": "seems like that doesn't quite fit"}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:17", "text": "either. Today, the genetic disc sits in"}, {"start": "00:22:14", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "this strange unresolved space. We don't"}, {"start": "00:22:17", "end": "00:22:20", "text": "know if it's real. We don't know if it's"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "fake. And we really have no way of"}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "determining whether or not it's"}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "something in between. And because you"}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:29", "text": "guys made it this far, I want you to all"}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:31", "text": "comment down below genetic disc. So that"}, {"start": "00:22:29", "end": "00:22:33", "text": "way I know who made it to the end and"}, {"start": "00:22:31", "end": "00:22:34", "text": "who didn't. And if you yourself want to"}, {"start": "00:22:33", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "do more research on this strange"}, {"start": "00:22:34", "end": "00:22:39", "text": "artifact, go to Google right now. Just"}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "look it up. Genetic disc. There is a ton"}, {"start": "00:22:39", "end": "00:22:43", "text": "of information on it and it is very very"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:45", "text": "strange. 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[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "Earlier this year, the United States"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "government officially confirmed"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "something at Skinwalker Ranch, real,"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "measurable, and documented. And"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "according to the team that's been on the"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "property since, they have no way of"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "stopping it. But to actually understand"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "what's happening at Skinwalker Ranch in"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "2026, you have to go back to 1995 to a"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "ranch family that nobody believed. You"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "won't want to miss this one."}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "In the spring of 1995, a rancher named"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "Terry Sherman lived with his family on a"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "cattle ranch in northeastern Utah in a"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "high desert region called the Uenta"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "Basin. They had bought the place the way"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "a lot of families bought ranches in that"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "part of the country by working their way"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "up to a piece of land that nobody else"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "wanted to live on and putting their"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "savings into it and trusting the cattle"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "to pay it back. Now, Terry ran cattle"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "and that was his entire job. He fed them"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "in the mornings. He checked the line"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "every couple days. He calved out the"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "cows in the spring and he counted the"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "heads in the fall. And he tried to keep"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "the operation in the black all through"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "the winter. The work was the same work"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "that had been done on ranches in that"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "part of the country for a hundred years."}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "In April of 1995, one of his cows was"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "about to cave. So around 3:00 in the"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "morning, Terry grabbed his coat and he"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "stepped outside toward the field and he"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "was going to check on his cving cow. Now"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "his first thought when he stepped"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "outside was just how cold it still was"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "at night. On his walk to the cow, he"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "could see his breath in front of him and"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "he started thinking that maybe he should"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "have grabbed a thicker coat. And now"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "when he got to the cow in the lee of a"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "lowrise, she was working through labor."}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "And as he crouched down to look, the"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "calf was not out yet. But he could tell"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "that she did not need help. She just"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "needed more time. So he stood up and he"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "started walking back toward the house."}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "And as he turned and began walking back,"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "he stopped because he saw lights. Now,"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "they caught his attention because they"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "weren't flying through the air, but"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "instead they were in a field next to the"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "house, specifically in the home pasture"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "on the near side of the ridge. And as he"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "squinted, he could tell that there were"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "three, you know, maybe four of them. And"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "that's when he stopped walking and he"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "just stared. Now, at first he was"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "annoyed because he thought somebody had"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "gotten onto his land and it had to have"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "been a hunter or maybe some kids who"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "took the wrong turn and they pulled off"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "into a field. And so he began to get"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "angry. And as he moved toward the house,"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "he realized that the lights were not"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "moving in a way that you would expect."}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "They were holding their position with"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "precision that headlights from a vehicle"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "did not have. And he could even see the"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "fence line below them. And so he started"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "thinking that maybe it was a helicopter"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "coming in from the gas fields. But the"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "problem was that in the basin on a night"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "like this with hardly any wind, you can"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "hear that from 20 m out. Because he had"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "lived in the area for so long, he knew"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "what that sounded like. And this was"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "just not it. So, he's about halfway back"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "to the house when he stops and he"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "doesn't move and he watches and he"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "analyzes and he's trying not to raise"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "his flashlight because he doesn't know"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "who's over there and he doesn't want to"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "signal to them that he's there."}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "Something though inside his gut, call it"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "instinct, call it whatever you will, is"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "screaming at him, no matter what, do not"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "go toward those lights. There's just"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "something wrong about the situation. And"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "in the middle of that thought, the"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "lights fade out just like somebody"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "flipped a switch. Terry stands there for"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "about another minute, squinting and"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "waiting for the lights to come back on,"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "expecting that whoever is over there has"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "now realized they've been spotted. But"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "he doesn't see any movement or activity"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "at all. And that feeling in the pit of"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "his stomach grows and grows. And the"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "thought that comes to him is, I need to"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "get back into my house now and protect"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "my family in case something is arrive."}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "And so when he got back to the house, he"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "slowly opened the door, closed it, and"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "he hung up his coat. Now, the house was"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "still dark, and so he realized his wife"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "was still asleep, and so were the kids."}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "and he laid his flashlight on the"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "counter and he washed his hands and he"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "just started chuckling to himself"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "thinking that the whole thing was a"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "fluke that it was probably nothing and"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "he was just being overly paranoid. He"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "needed to go lay down and get some rest"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "because tomorrow the cow would have her"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "calf and he would have work to do."}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "Within a couple of hours, Terry was back"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "up and he started his morning chores."}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "And the first thing he wanted to do was"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "investigate the area where it all"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "happened. So he walked along the section"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "of the fence where the lights had been"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "and he checked the ground methodically"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "for any tire tracks or signs of"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "activity, but he could not find a single"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "disturbance. Now he felt extremely"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "puzzled because it did not make any"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "sense to him. And as he tried to figure"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "this out, you know, he looked around"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "hoping something would jump out at him"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "as logically obvious, you know, kind of"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "like that aha, that had to be it moment."}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "And then he looked north up the slope of"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "a ridge and he saw some snow and that"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "seemed like his smoking gun. The"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "moonlight must have caught those patches"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "at the perfect angle and because he was"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "tired and his brain filled in the rest"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "of the details that there you go. But of"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "course, the other option was that the"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "Uenta basin had spring inversions, which"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "can do weird things to light, like"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "refraction, miragages, or reflected glow"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "from the gas flares out on the mesa."}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "Those options sounded plausible, but he"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "was not completely confident. So, after"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "investigating a bit longer, he decided"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "to walk back to the house and check on"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "the cow. Now, the rest of the day was"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "pretty uneventful. You know, he spent it"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "doing chores. And as the evening rolled"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "around, his wife, who seemed very"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "concerned, asked if everything had been"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "all right out there with the cow. But he"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "explained that he had checked on her"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "earlier and that she had had her calf"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "and the calf was fine. And so, for the"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "next 3 weeks, Terry did not see those"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "lights. But his wife started noticing"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "strange things about Terry. he was"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "sleeping less often and she could tell"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "that he was really bothered by something"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "even when she asked and he would just"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "downplay it. And so she wondered if it"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "was just stress or you know maybe the"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "cving was getting to him. So about 3"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "weeks later close to midnight Terry got"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "up and walked out to the barn to grab"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "something that he had forgot. And as he"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "began to walk back across the yard"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "toward the house something in him told"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "him to just look up. And so he did and"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "he saw four points of light hanging over"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "the home pasture. They were identical to"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "the same kind of lights that he had seen"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "just 3 weeks before. And he immediately"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "stopped. And his first thought was, \"Oh"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "my gosh, I'm not crazy.\" Even though he"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "tried to rationalize it, there was just"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "something genuinely strange that was"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "going on. And after about a minute of"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "staring at them, they just blinked out."}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "Now, at this point, Terry really began"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "to worry because for the past 3 weeks,"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "he had been trying to convince himself"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "there was really nothing going on, but"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "he had just been disproven. So, he"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "briskly walked back to the house, trying"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "to be as quiet as he could when he"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "stepped inside. He didn't want to wake"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "his family, but he noticed that the"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "kitchen light was on. And when he"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "looked, his wife was up in her nightrobe"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "waiting for him. She had woken up when"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "she had heard him go out and she was"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "sitting at the kitchen table. As Terry"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "stepped in, they locked eyes and he"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "could see that she looked really"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "worried. They did not speak, but her"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "expression basically said, \"Please tell"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "me what's going on.\" And she saw that he"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "was pale, he was sweating, and he kind"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "of just avoided eye contact. and he"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "looked down and he slowly approached the"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "table and he kind of just slumped into"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "the chair and after taking a moment to"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "compose himself. He told his wife"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "everything. The next few weeks were"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "tough for Terry and his wife. They spent"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "all the extra time they could watching"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "the ranch together and after their"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "discussion at the table weeks prior,"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "they agreed on several things. Well,"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "three things actually. They were not"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "going to talk about it with anybody"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "outside the family. They were going to"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "keep working like they always had. And"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "most importantly, they were going to pay"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "as much attention as they could to the"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "sky. Now, for a while, it seemed like"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "everything had cleared up and life had"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "gone back to normal, at least for the"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "most part. And on the early morning of"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "July 9th of 1995, Terry woke up and went"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "through his usual morning routine. He"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "went out to check the cattle in the back"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "pasture, this time carrying a cup of"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "coffee. And as he walked toward the"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "cattle, he was really annoyed because he"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "had run out of coffee grounds and his"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "coffee was far more watered down than he"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "enjoyed. But that train of thought was"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "interrupted by a shape on the ground"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "that was very much out of place. And so"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "he quickly picked up his pace and he"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "moved toward it. And as he approached,"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "he knew exactly what it was. One of his"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "cattle was dead and lying on her side in"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "the grass about a 100 yards out from the"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "nearest fence. He slowly approached and"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "he leaned in closer to investigate. Now,"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "immediately he knew that this was going"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "to be a problem because losing cattle to"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "predators has always been an issue for"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "ranchers. Now, when he began to"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "investigate the cow's body to confirm"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "what kind of predator this was, he was"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "baffled. He couldn't find any blood or"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "indication that the animal was attacked"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "or eaten, you know, like a traditional"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "predator would. And so quickly he began"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "to look around the carcass, but he could"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "not find any tracks or scuffling marks."}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "I mean, the ground him was pristine and"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "undisturbed, as if this cow had just"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "been plopped and laid there. Terry had"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "been ranching for a long time. you know,"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "obviously had seen cattle die in just"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "about every way you can. Predators,"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "disease, bloat, I mean, lightning. But"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "this was so strange and out of place"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "that it triggered that same gut instinct"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "in him again that something about this"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "was really wrong, but he could not quite"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "just identify what it was. Now, even"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "though he couldn't prove it, he felt the"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "strange events of the past few weeks."}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "and this dead cow were somehow"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "connected. So he got up and he just"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "calmly walked to the house and he opened"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "the door and he called to his wife and"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "he just says, \"I don't know how to"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "explain this, but you just got to come"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "see it.\" And so they walked out together"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "to the pasture and they spent about 10"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "minutes just staring at the carcass"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "trying to figure out what could have"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "happened. Now, eventually they agreed"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "that they didn't know and that they"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "needed to call the sheriff even though"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "it wasn't what they wanted to do. They"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "were out of options. So, around 2:30"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "that afternoon, the sheriff came out and"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "he walked around the carcass and he"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "looked at it from a few different"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "angles. He asked Terry a few questions."}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "Basically had nothing to offer. He said"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "he hadn't gotten any recent mutilation"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "calls in the area and he wasn't sure"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "what category to even put this in. And"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "he basically told Sherman that this was"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "probably just a fluke and that, you"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "know, cows can die in mysterious ways."}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "It's it's livestock. It's bound to"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "happen. You know, it's probably an"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "isolated incident. Don't worry about it."}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "So, even though he took a few notes to,"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "you know, help Terry feel better. And"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "told him he'd file it, he was still just"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "trying to be professional and polite."}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "And so after shaking Terry and his"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "wife's hand, he departed and that was"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "the end of that. Now over the next"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "several months, the family began seeing"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "things that they could not explain on a"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "much more regular basis. Terry and his"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "wife saw different kinds of lights,"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "single points and clusters that moved in"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "patterns. And what bothered them more"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "than the lights themselves was something"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "they both saw. Their children witnessed"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "it, too. Now, around the same time, they"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "began losing more cattle. One here, one"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "there, roughly every few weeks. It"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "became frequent enough that Terry and"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "his wife could no longer deny that"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "everything that was happening was"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "connected in one way or another. But the"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "worst part for the family was that they"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "still weren't any closer to getting"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "answers. All the cattle that had died"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "were all found in similar conditions to"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "the first. No blood, no tracks, no signs"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "of predation. Terry wasn't really a"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "religious man, but he began to wonder if"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "this really was God testing him or if he"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "was under spiritual attack, that"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "something was happening to their family"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "and it was shaking them to their core."}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "Late in the evening of July 27th of"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "1995, Terry was out behind the house"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "fixing a section of fence that one of"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "the cattle had recently pushed through."}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "He was already exhausted from the day"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "and he had put off this section of fence"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "until evening because he had so many"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "other things to slog through and this"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "was already the third one of the week"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "and so he was tired and he didn't want"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "to deal with it but he had to. He didn't"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "have a choice. So he had just finished"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "straightening this section when he felt"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "that oh so familiar urge to look up at"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "the sky and he did. And sure enough he"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "saw the lights. But this time there was"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "something different. They appeared at"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "the same altitude and in the same"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "formation as before, but they did"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "something he had never seen. They opened"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "up like a hole in the air, a circular"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "space in the sky. And now inside was"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "this kind of dim orange color that he"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "could hardly describe. And out of the"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "opening, this object came down toward"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "the pasture, followed by another. And"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "then the opening closed and the objects"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "and the light vanished. Now completely"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "terrified out of his mind, he ran back"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "into his house and it left him at a loss"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "for words because terms like UFOs and"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "interdimensional and paranormal were not"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "part of their vernacular. I mean, the"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "only phrase that came to him was orange"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "circular doorways. He didn't have to say"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "much more. His wife understood. The"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "family continued to see these same"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "things from time to time, and it really"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "started to wear on Terry. He had the"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "feeling that even though the land was"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "technically his, something else was"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "coming to claim ownership of the land he"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "lived on. But what he did not know. Now,"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "for most of that summer and into the"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "fall of 1995, Terry and his wife kept up"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "the appearance of a normal ranching"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "family. They went into town for"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "groceries and feed and church on"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "Sundays. They paid their bills, you"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "know. They smiled when neighbors waved."}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "And when anyone asked how things were"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "going on the ranch, they said that"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "things were fine on Sundays. Now,"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "Sherman started listening to the pastor"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "differently than he used to, listening"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "for something in the sermon that might"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "apply to what was happening on his land."}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "But he never found it. Things were"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "starting to go downhill with the ranch."}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "The cattle losses were starting to"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "really hurt them financially because"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "every cow that died was hundreds of"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "dollars that they weren't going to get"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "back. And on a paper thin margin"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "operation like theirs, they couldn't"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "afford to lose that many in a season. I"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "mean, they already went through their"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "savings faster than they had planned."}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "And they started putting off equipment"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "repairs they couldn't put off forever."}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "So every time a calf came in healthy,"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "Terry caught himself feeling something"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "he had never felt about his own animals."}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "Relief that they were still alive."}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "Terry's children were also changing."}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "They had become quieter, less playful,"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "and they stayed inside more than they"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "used to. He didn't know how much they"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "had seen, and you know, he and his wife"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "didn't ask because they didn't want to"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "put the words in their mouths. But they"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "knew something was happening and they"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "were carrying it the same way their"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "parents were. Terry started avoiding"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "long conversations at the feed store"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "that he used to have. I mean, other"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "ranchers in the basin would stop by to"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "talk about, you know, weather and cattle"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "prices and he would just keep the"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "conversation short and polite and then"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "he'd find a reason to leave. His wife"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "started doing the same with the church"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "women. And it became so noticeable that"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "those who knew Terry's family would"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "gossip that it seemed like they were"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "hiding something, but they couldn't"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "quite put their finger on what. Now, by"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "October of that year, Terry was"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "beginning to develop severe insomnia."}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "Often at night, he would just lie in bed"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "and listen for anything out of the"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "ordinary. If he didn't hear anything, he"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "would just sit up and spend hours"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "looking out the kitchen window, trying"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "to spot anything that he felt or looked"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "off. And one morning, he was sitting at"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "the kitchen table around 3:00 in the"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "morning. He hadn't touched his cup of"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "coffee, and by then, it had gone cold."}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "And the realization really hit him that"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "if all this activity around the ranch"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "keeps going, he's going to go completely"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "broke. That's when he panicked. he won't"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "be able to feed his family and he did"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "not have contingencies. So the following"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "morning, Terry realized his next step."}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "He didn't want to, but he had to. And so"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "he waited until his wife had gone into"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "town to run an errand and his children"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "had left for school. And then he looked"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "into his kitchen and he realized it was"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "time. So he sat down at his kitchen"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "table. He pllopped down the phone book"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "and his second cup of coffee that"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "morning and he took a deep breath and he"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "opened the phone book. He picked up the"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "phone and he began making some very"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "important calls. The first was to the"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "sheriff's department and he asked the"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "dispatcher whether anyone else in the"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "basin had reported cattle losses that"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "they could not explain. And she checked"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "the records and told him that there was"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "really nothing in the last year. And so"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "he said thank you and he hung up. His"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "second was to the Department of Wildlife"}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "Resources and he explained that he was a"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "cattle rancher in northeastern Utah and"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "he was losing animals at a very unusual"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "rate with no signs of predation. And so"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "again, he asked if there had been any"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "reports of cougar or coyote activity"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "that might explain it. Now, even though"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "the DWR officer was helpful and very"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "patient, the answer was the same. But"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "the third call was easily the hardest,"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "and he even hesitated for a moment"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "before dialing the number. And then he"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "continued because he realized he had no"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "other choice. A couple miles away, in a"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "small office in town, a middle-aged"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "woman named Bethany was talking to her"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "coworker about their family plans for"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "the holidays when the phone rang. When"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "she answered, the voice on the other end"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "sounded rattled and did not give their"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "name, but they wanted to know if she"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "could put them through to anybody who"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "covered the Uenta area. And they began"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "asking if they had ever heard of"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "somebody seeing strange lights in the"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "basin that were not like aircraft. Now,"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "Bethany was very off-put by this. And so"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "she just asked this individual to hold"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "on and she went and checked and you know"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "within a couple of minutes she got back"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "on the phone and she just said no. Terry"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "had tried to contact the local paper"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "known as the Desireette News. But"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "unfortunately that was another dead end."}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:22", "text": "After realizing he and his entire family"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "were basically alone, he knew that there"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "was one last thing he had to do. He was"}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "going to wait until his wife got home."}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "And so Terry and his wife sat at the"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "kitchen table later that evening after"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "the kids were in bed and they walked"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "through everything, the embarrassment,"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "the kids and whether they would lose"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "friends at school and whether the people"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "at church would still even talk to them,"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "the money, what the ranch was going to"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "cost them in losses, and what this would"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "do to their livelihood. They sat there"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:55", "text": "until late, and neither of them slept"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "much. But by morning, they had a"}, {"start": "00:20:55", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "decision. They were going public. Before"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:02", "text": "the kids went to school, Terry watched"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "them eat their cereal at the kitchen"}, {"start": "00:21:02", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "table, and he thought about what he was"}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "about to do and what it was going to"}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "cost them. They finished their"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "breakfast, they got their backpacks,"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "they went out to the bus, and once he"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "saw that they were gone, he made his"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "final phone call. He called the"}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "Deserette News back. And this time, he"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:23", "text": "gave his name. The woman who answered"}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:26", "text": "was the same woman who had answered the"}, {"start": "00:21:23", "end": "00:21:28", "text": "call before. He recognized her voice and"}, {"start": "00:21:26", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "he told her that he was the rancher who"}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "had called a few weeks earlier asking"}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "about lights in the basin. He and his"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "wife wanted to talk to a reporter about"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "what was going on on their property and"}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "that they were ready to be on the"}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:43", "text": "record. The pause this time was longer"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:45", "text": "and then she said she would have"}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "somebody call him back, but she didn't"}, {"start": "00:21:45", "end": "00:21:49", "text": "say when. The reporter called back on a"}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "Tuesday. He had been covering Utah news"}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "for the Desireet News for several years."}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "So he told Terry over the phone that if"}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "he can come out to the ranch and but in"}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:22:01", "text": "person and so he said yes. They set a"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "date for the following week. And when"}, {"start": "00:22:01", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "the reporter arrived, he came in a small"}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:09", "text": "sedan parked by the house and stepped"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "out with a notebook, a pen, and a small"}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:14", "text": "audio recorder. And he had the demeanor"}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:17", "text": "of somebody who wasn't sure what he was"}, {"start": "00:22:14", "end": "00:22:19", "text": "about to hear but willing to listen."}, {"start": "00:22:17", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "Terry walked him around the property. He"}, {"start": "00:22:19", "end": "00:22:23", "text": "showed him the home pasture. He showed"}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "him the section of fence that one of the"}, {"start": "00:22:23", "end": "00:22:28", "text": "cattle had pushed through and the spot"}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:29", "text": "where the cow had been lying, even"}, {"start": "00:22:28", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "though there was nothing left to see"}, {"start": "00:22:29", "end": "00:22:34", "text": "there now. But the entire time, the"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "reporter was taking notes and just"}, {"start": "00:22:34", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "asking questions in a way that was"}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "neither skeptical nor enthusiastic. He"}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:45", "text": "was just trying to understand. Then they"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "sat down at the kitchen table. Terry's"}, {"start": "00:22:45", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "wife had made him coffee and she set a"}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "cup in front of the reporter and one in"}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:54", "text": "front of Terry and she sat down across"}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:57", "text": "from her husband with her own cup in her"}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:22:59", "text": "hands and the reporter put the audio"}, {"start": "00:22:57", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "recorder on the table between them and"}, {"start": "00:22:59", "end": "00:23:05", "text": "he asked is it okay if I record and when"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:07", "text": "they agreed and so he pressed record."}, {"start": "00:23:05", "end": "00:23:09", "text": "They began telling him everything. They"}, {"start": "00:23:07", "end": "00:23:11", "text": "started with the first sighting in April"}, {"start": "00:23:09", "end": "00:23:13", "text": "and walked the reporter through"}, {"start": "00:23:11", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "everything. I mean, his wife talked"}, {"start": "00:23:13", "end": "00:23:17", "text": "about the kids who knew something was"}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "wrong, but didn't know how much. Both of"}, {"start": "00:23:17", "end": "00:23:22", "text": "them tried to describe what it felt like"}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:25", "text": "to have your own land stop feeling like"}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:28", "text": "your own. And after about an hour of"}, {"start": "00:23:25", "end": "00:23:30", "text": "this, Terry told him about the doorways."}, {"start": "00:23:28", "end": "00:23:32", "text": "He practiced the language in his head"}, {"start": "00:23:30", "end": "00:23:35", "text": "for days, but when it came time to"}, {"start": "00:23:32", "end": "00:23:37", "text": "actually describe what he had seen, they"}, {"start": "00:23:35", "end": "00:23:39", "text": "came out the way that it had come out on"}, {"start": "00:23:37", "end": "00:23:41", "text": "the kitchen table the night he had told"}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:44", "text": "his wife. lights that opened up and a"}, {"start": "00:23:41", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "circular space in the air. And the"}, {"start": "00:23:44", "end": "00:23:49", "text": "inside of it was a dim orange he had"}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:51", "text": "never seen anywhere else. Objects coming"}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:53", "text": "down out of the opening and then the"}, {"start": "00:23:51", "end": "00:23:56", "text": "opening closing again. The reporter was"}, {"start": "00:23:53", "end": "00:23:58", "text": "taking down notes the entire time and"}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "then he asked some clarifying questions,"}, {"start": "00:23:58", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "but he did not push back. When Terry"}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "said the word doorways and he described"}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:07", "text": "the shape and the color, the reporter"}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:10", "text": "repeated that phrase back with his pen"}, {"start": "00:24:07", "end": "00:24:12", "text": "hovering above the page just to make"}, {"start": "00:24:10", "end": "00:24:16", "text": "sure he had it right. Folks, that"}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:19", "text": "article ran on June 30th of 1996,"}, {"start": "00:24:16", "end": "00:24:22", "text": "almost an entire year later. Terry went"}, {"start": "00:24:19", "end": "00:24:25", "text": "into town that morning the way he always"}, {"start": "00:24:22", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "went into town on a Sunday. feed, mail,"}, {"start": "00:24:25", "end": "00:24:30", "text": "and a copy of the Desireette news from"}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:33", "text": "the gas station at the highway turnoff."}, {"start": "00:24:30", "end": "00:24:36", "text": "He paid for the paper, folded it under"}, {"start": "00:24:33", "end": "00:24:38", "text": "his arm, and he drove back to the ranch."}, {"start": "00:24:36", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "But he didn't open it in the truck. He"}, {"start": "00:24:38", "end": "00:24:42", "text": "brought it inside the house. He set it"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:45", "text": "on the kitchen table, and he poured"}, {"start": "00:24:42", "end": "00:24:46", "text": "himself a cup of coffee. His wife was"}, {"start": "00:24:45", "end": "00:24:48", "text": "making breakfast. The kids were getting"}, {"start": "00:24:46", "end": "00:24:51", "text": "dressed. And then he sat down and he"}, {"start": "00:24:48", "end": "00:24:53", "text": "opened it. And the article was on the"}, {"start": "00:24:51", "end": "00:24:56", "text": "third page of the local section. The"}, {"start": "00:24:53", "end": "00:24:59", "text": "headline readfrequent flyers and"}, {"start": "00:24:56", "end": "00:25:02", "text": "underneath it in slightly smaller type"}, {"start": "00:24:59", "end": "00:25:04", "text": "was a subhead about a Uenta County"}, {"start": "00:25:02", "end": "00:25:08", "text": "rancher and his family reporting strange"}, {"start": "00:25:04", "end": "00:25:10", "text": "lights and unexplained livestock losses."}, {"start": "00:25:08", "end": "00:25:13", "text": "The reporter had been fair. He had not"}, {"start": "00:25:10", "end": "00:25:15", "text": "editorialized it. And then the phone"}, {"start": "00:25:13", "end": "00:25:18", "text": "started ringing. The first call was from"}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "a neighbor down the road. The second was"}, {"start": "00:25:18", "end": "00:25:22", "text": "from somebody at church. And the third"}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:25", "text": "was from a person that Terry did not"}, {"start": "00:25:22", "end": "00:25:28", "text": "recognize, asking questions Terry didn't"}, {"start": "00:25:25", "end": "00:25:31", "text": "want to answer. And by noon, he had to"}, {"start": "00:25:28", "end": "00:25:33", "text": "unplug the phone from the wall. The kids"}, {"start": "00:25:31", "end": "00:25:35", "text": "came home from school the next day, and"}, {"start": "00:25:33", "end": "00:25:38", "text": "they were quieter than usual. Everybody"}, {"start": "00:25:35", "end": "00:25:40", "text": "now knew. And at some point, they"}, {"start": "00:25:38", "end": "00:25:42", "text": "received a phone call from a man who was"}, {"start": "00:25:40", "end": "00:25:45", "text": "calling on behalf of a businessman in"}, {"start": "00:25:42", "end": "00:25:47", "text": "Las Vegas who was very interested in the"}, {"start": "00:25:45", "end": "00:25:49", "text": "property and wanted to buy it. and he"}, {"start": "00:25:47", "end": "00:25:51", "text": "began to explain that he was in the"}, {"start": "00:25:49", "end": "00:25:55", "text": "aerospace and real estate business. He"}, {"start": "00:25:51", "end": "00:25:57", "text": "gave Terry a price and that price was"}, {"start": "00:25:55", "end": "00:25:59", "text": "far higher than the property was worth."}, {"start": "00:25:57", "end": "00:26:01", "text": "Terry explained that he would have to"}, {"start": "00:25:59", "end": "00:26:03", "text": "talk it over with his wife and that they"}, {"start": "00:26:01", "end": "00:26:06", "text": "would be in touch. Later that night,"}, {"start": "00:26:03", "end": "00:26:08", "text": "Terry and his wife sat at the kitchen"}, {"start": "00:26:06", "end": "00:26:11", "text": "table across from each other and they"}, {"start": "00:26:08", "end": "00:26:13", "text": "went over all the pros and cons. And his"}, {"start": "00:26:11", "end": "00:26:15", "text": "wife just said, \"Look, honey, if we"}, {"start": "00:26:13", "end": "00:26:17", "text": "sell, we don't lose the ranch.\" because"}, {"start": "00:26:15", "end": "00:26:19", "text": "the losses had been adding up for over a"}, {"start": "00:26:17", "end": "00:26:22", "text": "year now. They had been borrowing"}, {"start": "00:26:19", "end": "00:26:24", "text": "against next year's crops to try to"}, {"start": "00:26:22", "end": "00:26:27", "text": "cover this year's bills. The offer"}, {"start": "00:26:24", "end": "00:26:30", "text": "Robert made wasn't just a get out of"}, {"start": "00:26:27", "end": "00:26:32", "text": "jail free card. There were conditions."}, {"start": "00:26:30", "end": "00:26:35", "text": "Couple of weeks later, Robert and his"}, {"start": "00:26:32", "end": "00:26:39", "text": "people visited. He was polite, direct,"}, {"start": "00:26:35", "end": "00:26:41", "text": "and formal. He introduced himself. His"}, {"start": "00:26:39", "end": "00:26:43", "text": "name was Robert Bigalow. and he"}, {"start": "00:26:41", "end": "00:26:46", "text": "explained to Terry even that he was"}, {"start": "00:26:43", "end": "00:26:49", "text": "interested in the property for research"}, {"start": "00:26:46", "end": "00:26:52", "text": "purposes. He ran an organization that"}, {"start": "00:26:49", "end": "00:26:54", "text": "studied unusual phenomena and what the"}, {"start": "00:26:52", "end": "00:26:56", "text": "Shermans had reported in the deseret"}, {"start": "00:26:54", "end": "00:26:59", "text": "news was exactly the kind of thing that"}, {"start": "00:26:56", "end": "00:27:01", "text": "his people wanted to look into. 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They would"}, {"start": "00:27:22", "end": "00:27:26", "text": "not give out any more interviews or"}, {"start": "00:27:24", "end": "00:27:30", "text": "write about it. And they would not speak"}, {"start": "00:27:26", "end": "00:27:33", "text": "about specific incidents, dates, or"}, {"start": "00:27:30", "end": "00:27:35", "text": "details to any reporter, researcher, or"}, {"start": "00:27:33", "end": "00:27:37", "text": "member of the public. anything they had"}, {"start": "00:27:35", "end": "00:27:40", "text": "already said publicly, you know, the"}, {"start": "00:27:37", "end": "00:27:43", "text": "Desireet news article would stand, but"}, {"start": "00:27:40", "end": "00:27:44", "text": "that door would be closed. So, Bigalow's"}, {"start": "00:27:43", "end": "00:27:46", "text": "people would move on to the ranch and"}, {"start": "00:27:44", "end": "00:27:49", "text": "they would set up instruments and they"}, {"start": "00:27:46", "end": "00:27:51", "text": "would keep their own records. Whatever"}, {"start": "00:27:49", "end": "00:27:54", "text": "happened on the property from that point"}, {"start": "00:27:51", "end": "00:27:56", "text": "forward would belong to the research."}, {"start": "00:27:54", "end": "00:27:58", "text": "The sale closed in the fall of 96. The"}, {"start": "00:27:56", "end": "00:28:00", "text": "Shermans packed up. They loaded the"}, {"start": "00:27:58", "end": "00:28:02", "text": "trucks. They left the ranch where they"}, {"start": "00:28:00", "end": "00:28:05", "text": "had lived from April of '95 to that"}, {"start": "00:28:02", "end": "00:28:08", "text": "fall. And they did not look back as they"}, {"start": "00:28:05", "end": "00:28:10", "text": "drove across the creek. By around 2010,"}, {"start": "00:28:08", "end": "00:28:13", "text": "Skinwalker Ranch was a different kind of"}, {"start": "00:28:10", "end": "00:28:16", "text": "property. New owners, television"}, {"start": "00:28:13", "end": "00:28:18", "text": "cameras, and a weekly series running on"}, {"start": "00:28:16", "end": "00:28:21", "text": "cable that used words the family had"}, {"start": "00:28:18", "end": "00:28:24", "text": "used at their own kitchen table 30 years"}, {"start": "00:28:21", "end": "00:28:25", "text": "earlier. Doorway, Portal,"}, {"start": "00:28:24", "end": "00:28:28", "text": "Interdimensional."}, {"start": "00:28:25", "end": "00:28:30", "text": "The franchise built itself a brand"}, {"start": "00:28:28", "end": "00:28:33", "text": "around the same phenomena the family had"}, {"start": "00:28:30", "end": "00:28:35", "text": "once tried to call the sheriff about."}, {"start": "00:28:33", "end": "00:28:38", "text": "But what put the ranch back into the"}, {"start": "00:28:35", "end": "00:28:42", "text": "headlines in 2016 was not the show. On"}, {"start": "00:28:38", "end": "00:28:44", "text": "April 12th of 2026, a federally"}, {"start": "00:28:42", "end": "00:28:47", "text": "contracted science team had permanently"}, {"start": "00:28:44", "end": "00:28:49", "text": "stationed itself on the ranch. The team"}, {"start": "00:28:47", "end": "00:28:53", "text": "had confirmed with instruments that the"}, {"start": "00:28:49", "end": "00:28:56", "text": "existence of what was described as a"}, {"start": "00:28:53", "end": "00:28:59", "text": "doorway existed. Most disturbing of all,"}, {"start": "00:28:56", "end": "00:29:02", "text": "this doorway, whatever it was, could not"}, {"start": "00:28:59", "end": "00:29:05", "text": "be closed. Now, the Defense Intelligence"}, {"start": "00:29:02", "end": "00:29:09", "text": "Agency had funded data collection on the"}, {"start": "00:29:05", "end": "00:29:13", "text": "ranch from 2007 to 2012 under a program"}, {"start": "00:29:09", "end": "00:29:15", "text": "called A SWAP. A ARO, the Pentagon's all"}, {"start": "00:29:13", "end": "00:29:19", "text": "domain anomaly resolution office, had"}, {"start": "00:29:15", "end": "00:29:21", "text": "even acknowledged the ranch in 2023 as a"}, {"start": "00:29:19", "end": "00:29:24", "text": "high priority signature management test"}, {"start": "00:29:21", "end": "00:29:27", "text": "location. It said that the current 2026"}, {"start": "00:29:24", "end": "00:29:30", "text": "arrangement involved a multi- agency"}, {"start": "00:29:27", "end": "00:29:33", "text": "science team with specialized equipment,"}, {"start": "00:29:30", "end": "00:29:35", "text": "LAR fencing with tridium and neutron"}, {"start": "00:29:33", "end": "00:29:38", "text": "counters. The team was not going"}, {"start": "00:29:35", "end": "00:29:41", "text": "anywhere. After 30 years of stories,"}, {"start": "00:29:38", "end": "00:29:44", "text": "after a cable show and one family's"}, {"start": "00:29:41", "end": "00:29:46", "text": "testimony and a billionaire's NDA, the"}, {"start": "00:29:44", "end": "00:29:48", "text": "United States government had finally"}, {"start": "00:29:46", "end": "00:29:50", "text": "confirmed that there was a real,"}, {"start": "00:29:48", "end": "00:29:54", "text": "measurable, repeatable doorway at"}, {"start": "00:29:50", "end": "00:29:56", "text": "Skinwalker Ranch. In April of 1997,"}, {"start": "00:29:54", "end": "00:29:59", "text": "after NIDS had been on the property for"}, {"start": "00:29:56", "end": "00:30:01", "text": "nearly a year, one of the senior"}, {"start": "00:29:59", "end": "00:30:04", "text": "researchers, a retired Army colonel"}, {"start": "00:30:01", "end": "00:30:07", "text": "named John Alexander, publicly stated"}, {"start": "00:30:04", "end": "00:30:10", "text": "that under direct observation, there had"}, {"start": "00:30:07", "end": "00:30:13", "text": "been definitely no craft and nothing of"}, {"start": "00:30:10", "end": "00:30:16", "text": "significance on the ranch. But 16 months"}, {"start": "00:30:13", "end": "00:30:20", "text": "later, in August of 1998, Robert Bigalow"}, {"start": "00:30:16", "end": "00:30:22", "text": "himself stated publicly that strange"}, {"start": "00:30:20", "end": "00:30:25", "text": "airborne activity and unusual animal"}, {"start": "00:30:22", "end": "00:30:28", "text": "deaths had continued on the property."}, {"start": "00:30:25", "end": "00:30:30", "text": "That NIDS would respond to ranchers"}, {"start": "00:30:28", "end": "00:30:33", "text": "mutilation reports in the area and that"}, {"start": "00:30:30", "end": "00:30:35", "text": "residents should call in sightings. Now,"}, {"start": "00:30:33", "end": "00:30:38", "text": "that's two statements that contradict"}, {"start": "00:30:35", "end": "00:30:41", "text": "and only 16 months apart from the same"}, {"start": "00:30:38", "end": "00:30:44", "text": "organization. It has only gotten more"}, {"start": "00:30:41", "end": "00:30:47", "text": "complicated. So, the timeline basically"}, {"start": "00:30:44", "end": "00:30:50", "text": "looks like this. A Utah cattle ranch"}, {"start": "00:30:47", "end": "00:30:52", "text": "where in 1995 a family began seeing"}, {"start": "00:30:50", "end": "00:30:55", "text": "strange lights and losing animals. Where"}, {"start": "00:30:52", "end": "00:30:57", "text": "in 96 they put the word doorway into"}, {"start": "00:30:55", "end": "00:31:00", "text": "print and they signed away their right"}, {"start": "00:30:57", "end": "00:31:03", "text": "to keep talking about it. In 97,"}, {"start": "00:31:00", "end": "00:31:07", "text": "official observation found nothing. In"}, {"start": "00:31:03", "end": "00:31:10", "text": "'98, official observation found"}, {"start": "00:31:07", "end": "00:31:13", "text": "everything. In the 2000s and the 2010s,"}, {"start": "00:31:10", "end": "00:31:18", "text": "the Pentagon paid contractors to study"}, {"start": "00:31:13", "end": "00:31:21", "text": "it. In 2019, a television series began"}, {"start": "00:31:18", "end": "00:31:23", "text": "filming the property. In 2023, the"}, {"start": "00:31:21", "end": "00:31:26", "text": "official anomaly office of the US"}, {"start": "00:31:23", "end": "00:31:29", "text": "government acknowledged it as a place"}, {"start": "00:31:26", "end": "00:31:32", "text": "where signature management testing had"}, {"start": "00:31:29", "end": "00:31:35", "text": "occurred. And in 2026, a federally"}, {"start": "00:31:32", "end": "00:31:38", "text": "contracted science team has stationed"}, {"start": "00:31:35", "end": "00:31:40", "text": "itself permanently and is reporting"}, {"start": "00:31:38", "end": "00:31:43", "text": "instrument data on something they say"}, {"start": "00:31:40", "end": "00:31:46", "text": "that they cannot stop. Whatever the"}, {"start": "00:31:43", "end": "00:31:49", "text": "science team in 2026 has decided cannot"}, {"start": "00:31:46", "end": "00:31:52", "text": "be closed is being carefully monitored"}, {"start": "00:31:49", "end": "00:31:55", "text": "by our government, and that's saying a"}, {"start": "00:31:52", "end": "00:31:56", "text": "lot. Unfortunately, we'll probably never"}, {"start": "00:31:55", "end": "00:31:58", "text": "find out. And because you guys made it"}, {"start": "00:31:56", "end": "00:32:01", "text": "this far, I want you to all comment down"}, {"start": "00:31:58", "end": "00:32:03", "text": "below Skinwalker Ranch. So that way I"}, {"start": "00:32:01", "end": "00:32:04", "text": "know who made it to the end and who"}, {"start": "00:32:03", "end": "00:32:06", "text": "didn't. And if you guys enjoy"}, {"start": "00:32:04", "end": "00:32:08", "text": "storytelling like this, where we deep"}, {"start": "00:32:06", "end": "00:32:10", "text": "dive into strange cases of the"}, {"start": "00:32:08", "end": "00:32:11", "text": "mysterious and supernatural, what are"}, {"start": "00:32:10", "end": "00:32:13", "text": "you waiting for? Smack that like and"}, {"start": "00:32:11", "end": "00:32:15", "text": "subscribe button right now for more"}, {"start": "00:32:13", "end": "00:32:17", "text": "content just like this. And as always,"}, {"start": "00:32:15", "end": "00:32:19", "text": "never forget, I love you all. Keep an"}, {"start": "00:32:17", "end": "00:32:22", "text": "open mind, and I'll see you all in the"}, {"start": "00:32:19", "end": "00:32:22", "text": "very next episode."}]

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In the middle"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "of April of 2003, Colonel Matthew"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "Bogdanos walked through the smashed"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "front entrance of the Iraq National"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "Museum in Baghdad. The looting had hit"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "the museum six or seven days prior, and"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "Bogdanos, he was the man the US"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "Department of Defense had assigned to"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "figure out what had been taken and by"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "who. In civilian life, Bogdanos was a"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "Manhattan assistant district attorney."}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "He had done classics at Princeton. He"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "spoke very fluent Arabic. And so, the"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "way Bogdanos walked into a crime scene"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "was the way that a prosecutor walks into"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "a crime scene. Methodically, slowly, and"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "looking at what was there and what"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "wasn't. And what was there in those"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "first few hours was a museum that had"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "basically been turned inside out. The"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "front doors had been smashed. The"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "display cases in the public galleries"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "had been broken open, and there was"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "paperwork strewn across the floor. There"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "were footprints. The 17 guards that had"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "been assigned to the museum had fled"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "around April 8th after US tanks had"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "fired on the museum facade during a"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "firefight in the area. Director Dr."}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "Nawala had handed over the keys and"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "evacuated by April 6th. So, by the time"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "Bogdanos got there, the staff was gone,"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "the building was empty, and something"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "very very strange had occurred inside."}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "Now, Bogdanos's first instinct as a"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "prosecutor was to walk the public"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "galleries and figure out what had been"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "taken from the display cases, and that's"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "what he did. And as he did this, he"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "began to notice that there really"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "weren't a lot of things missing. The"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "looting in the public galleries, of"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "course, was real, but it wasn't"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "comprehensive. I mean, some of the most"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "valuable pieces, I mean, we're talking"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "about pieces that any random thief would"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "have grabbed first, were still sitting"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "where they'd always been. The looters,"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "whoever they were, had clearly been"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "here, but they hadn't taken everything"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "they could have. Bogdanos kept walking,"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "and he went deeper into the museum, and"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "eventually he ended up in the basement."}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "Now, the basement of the Iraq National"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "Museum was not a public-facing space."}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "This was a storage working area. You"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "know, we're talking about"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "climate-controlled rooms, cabinets,"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "locked doors, holding the museum's"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "reserve collection. Most visitors had"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "never been down there, and most staff"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "hadn't either. It was the kind of space"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "where basically the only people who go"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "in are the people who work there. And"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "when he went down there, what he found"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "is that this is where the actual"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "operation had taken place. Now, there"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "was a specific room, and in that room, a"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "specific cabinet. And on top of that"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "cabinet, in small boxes, a curator named"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "Dr. Lamia Al-Gailani had kept ancient"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "Sumerian cylinder seals, small carved"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "cylinders thousands of years old from"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "the cradle of the earliest written"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "civilization on Earth. Bogdano's knew"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "about the boxes because Dr. Al-Gailani"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "would later tell him, and the boxes were"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "now empty. And so the question that"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "Bogdano's was sort of standing there"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "asking himself was that in the basement"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "of a museum whose layout nobody outside"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "the staff was supposed to know was the"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "same question Dr. Al-Gailani would later"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "put to a BBC reporter in 2016. How did"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "the looters find it unless they knew"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "where it was? Now, Bogdano's"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "investigation didn't stop at the"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "basement though, because as he started"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "doing the work, you know, interviewing"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "surviving staff, counting cabinets,"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "walking through inventory records line"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "by line, tracing the chain of who had"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "keys and who knew about the layout, he"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "began to realize that the museum was"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "just one piece of a much bigger pattern."}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "The damage to the Iraqi heritage was not"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "localized. It was basically systemic,"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "and it was happening in places that,"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "militarily speaking, didn't really make"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "a whole lot of sense. But take Tallil"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "airbase. This sat on the southern Iraqi"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "step, and right next to it, I mean,"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "almost on top of it, was the Great"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "Ziggurat of Ur. Now, this ziggurat is a"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "stepped pyramid roughly 4,100"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "years old, and it is one of the oldest"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "and most significant standing structures"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "in the entire history of human"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "civilization predating, you know,"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "basically every recognizable empire that"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "ever stood up and called itself an"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "empire. Now, the US securing Tallil Air"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "Base on day one of the invasion was not"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "by itself the strange part. Tallil was a"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "strategic asset. What was weird was that"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "public access to the Ziggurat of Ur was"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "closed off the same day. And it would"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "remain closed off for the next six"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "years. And then there was Babylon. In"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "April of 2003, US forces built a 150"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "hectare military camp directly on top of"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "the ruins of Babylon. The capital of"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "Nebuchadnezzar's empire, US tanks rolled"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "across the brick pavement of the Ishtar"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "Gate, the gate that had been the main"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "ceremonial entrance into the inner city"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "of Babylon. Pavement that was 2,500"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "years old laid down during the reign of"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "Nebuchadnezzar and crushed it. And of"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "course, there was what was happening on"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "the human side around Tallil. Kaliber"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "who is a Purdue University"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "anthropologist has documented birth"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "defects clustered around the Tallil area"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "in concentrations not seen anywhere else"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "in the country. And none of it part of"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "Bogdanos' museum investigation. But all"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "of it part of the institutional weight"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "that was settling into place around what"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "the US forces had decided to secure"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "first and what they were apparently"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "willing to leave on the ground after"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "they did. And so Bogdanos wrote the"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "report. It was sourced. It quoted Dr."}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "Lamia Al-Gailani by name. And it listed"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "every artifact case the looters had"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "visited and everyone that they had"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "skipped. And in the end, it came to two"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "conclusions. The first was that the"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "early news figure of 170,000"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "stolen items was in his words a gross"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "exaggeration. Because the actual figure"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "was closer to 15,000."}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "So, that means the looting wasn't as"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "comprehensive as the wire reports were"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "saying. Now, the second conclusion was"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "the one that really mattered. The"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "thieves in Bog Noss's own official"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "language had intimate knowledge of the"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "museum's security practices. They had"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "breached the basement level storage"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "rooms. They emptied these specific boxes"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "on top of it, and they had walked out"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "with these cylinder seals. So, that"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "means the report was filed, it entered"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "public record, and the question of why"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "the US tanks parked outside the building"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "had watched the looting happen for 3"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "days and not intervened, well, that"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "wasn't a question a Marine Reserve"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "colonel running a museum investigation"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "was really assigned to answer. That"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "wasn't really a question nobody in"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "uniform was assigned to answer. But,"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "somebody else, half a world away,"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "somebody who wasn't in uniform was"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "already writing a paper that proposed an"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "answer. In the fall of 2003, in a small"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "home office in Washington, D.C., a"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "researcher named Dr. Michael Salla sat"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "at a desk and worked his way through the"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "news coming out of Iraq. He was heavily"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "watching what the governments weren't"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "saying out loud about Iraq. What he was"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "reading basically was the same wire"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "reports that everybody else was. The"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "looting, the seals, the tanks being 100"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "yards away, you know, the ziggurat"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "closed off the day to leave was secured."}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "The major difference here was what he"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "was doing with it. And the more he"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "looked at all the information, the more"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "it didn't fit into any standard"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "explanation. I mean, the official frame"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "for the invasion had been weapons of"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "mass destruction. I mean, that was the"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "headline frame. There were a couple of"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "secondary frames, you know, like regime"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "change, oil security, regional"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "restructuring, that were either openly"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "stated or pretty heavily implied. But,"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "none of those frames really explained"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "why the US military had moved with such"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "specific urgency to secure ancient"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "archaeological sites. Weapons of mass"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "destruction don't live inside a"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "4,000-year-old ziggurat. The Fourth"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "Infantry Division didn't need to"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "bulldoze the Ishtar Gate to overthrow"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "Saddam Hussein. And whatever you think"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "about the oil thesis, oil isn't sitting"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "in a basement-level storage cabinet at"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "the Iraq National Museum, either. And so"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "Solo began writing a paper. And folks,"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "do you know what that paper was called?"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "Saddam or Stargate: What is the Task"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "Force 20's main objective? Now, to be"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "clear, Task Force 20 was a real named"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "public unit. A joint special operations"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "command element deployed into Iraq"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "during the invasion specifically to hunt"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "high-value targets and recover sensitive"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "material. That was on public record. So,"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "what Solo was proposing was about the"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "sensitive material actually was. His"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "hypothesis basically ran like this: That"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "Saddam Hussein, in the years before the"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "invasion, had actually been working with"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "Russian, German, and French"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "archaeological teams on something big."}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "That the teams had been excavating in"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "Iraq, and their work, Solo argued, had"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "converged on the recovery and study of"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "an ancient Sumerian portal device. The"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "cylinder seals were not, in this"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "reading, decorative artifacts. They were"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "schematics, reverse-engineered technical"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "documentation encoded into the actual"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "iconography of Sumerian writing. The"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "5,000 seals Baqir and Solo's report had"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "isolated were, in Solo's hypothesis, the"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "documentation set. The invasion, the"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "museum looting, the closure of the"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "ziggurat, the camp on top of Babylon,"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "these were not separate. They were one"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "operation, and this operation was"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "preemptive. The United States had moved"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "before Saddam could finish what he was"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "doing. Now, of course, Salla had no"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "inside source for any of this. He didn't"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "claim to because he was doing what a lot"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "of you and I do. We're just pattern"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "matching. He was looking at what was"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "available on public record and just"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "proposing his interpretation of it. 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And he sort of folded"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "in as the underlying mythological frame,"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "but he was very careful in the paper"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "about distinguishing what was documented"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "from what was his hypothesis."}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "Eventually, he did finish the paper and"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "he uploaded it to a website called"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "Bibliotheca Pleiades, which was one of"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "the main early Exopolitics archives on"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "the internet. And he sent it out across"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "his subscriber list and the paper"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "entered circulation uh late 2003-ish."}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "Now, due to the claims of this, the"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "Pentagon did not respond, the State"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "Department didn't respond, Task Force"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "20, of course, didn't respond. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "no major press outlet picked the paper"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "up or even picked it up in order to"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "debunk it. There was really no skeptical"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "takedown in the Washington Post and it"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "had kind of just been forgotten about"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "until in June of 2007 in a hotel room in"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "Las Vegas, Nevada, a man named Dan"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "Burisch sat down across from two"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "researchers who ran a website called"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "Project Camelot. Now, this was and still"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "is a website run by Kerry Lynn Cassidy"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "and Bill Ryan, who are two researchers"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "specializing in long-form interviews"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "with self-described whistleblowers. And"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "their format was relatively simple."}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "Cassidy and Ryan would set up a camera"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "in a hotel room, they'd sit a person"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "down across from them, and they let that"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "person talk for as long as they want to"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "with no editing, they don't challenge"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "them, they don't try and fact check"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "them. They would just let the interview"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "run for several hours at a time. And"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "when they were finished, they would"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "upload it to projectcamelot.org."}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "And it would just sit there on public"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "record, available for anybody to watch."}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "So, Burisch sat down, he turned on his"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "microphone, and he began to talk. Now,"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "who Burisch was, that was sort of the"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "first contested question of the entire"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "interview. Because according to Burisch,"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "he was a former Area 51 microbiologist."}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "He had worked on something called"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "Project Lotus, and something called"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "Project Aquarius. He had been briefed,"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "he said, by the innermost circle of what"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "was sometimes referred to as Majestic"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "12, which is the alleged committee that"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "according to a small but persistent body"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "of conspiracy literature, had been"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "overseeing the United States"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "government's classified relationship"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "with extraterrestrial phenomena since"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "what? The late 1940s. The Majestic 12"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "briefings he described are all"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "unverifiable by definition as well. So,"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "when Burisch sat down in that hotel room"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "in June of 2007, and began talking, he"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "was not talking from a position of"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "confirmed institutional credibility. He"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "was talking from a position of contested"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "institutional credibility. And what"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "Burisch said next was basically a story."}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "He told Cassidy and Ryan that an"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "international coalition and he was very"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "specific. He named the United Nations,"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "the European Union, and NATO had over"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "the previous years decommissioned at"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "least 50 man-made devices around the"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "world. These devices, he explained, were"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "capable of accessing what he called"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "natural Einstein-Rosen bridges. Now, in"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "physics, an Einstein-Rosen bridge is the"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "technical term for a wormhole, a"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "hypothetical shortcut through space time"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "predicted by general relativity. Never"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "observed, but mathematically consistent"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "with the equations. And what Burisch was"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "claiming is that these were not"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "theoretical objects. They were actual"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "operational locations. They were natural"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "ones in very specific places on the"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "earth. And human beings had, at least"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "according to him, built devices that"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "could access them. And surprise, the"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "government knows about them. And then"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "Cassidy asked the question, was Iraq one"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "of those locations? And Burisch's"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "answer, on camera, on record, was, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "absolutely.\" Now, he was very specific"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "about the technology. The decommissioned"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "stargate, as Burisch described it, broke"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "down into three components. You see,"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "there was a projection component, there"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "was a ring component, and there was a"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "barrel component. And he said the"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "looking glass technology, which is its"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "own deep rabbit hole in the literature,"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "had been back engineered from the"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "stargate technology using data extracted"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "from a specific kind of source material."}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "And that source material, in Burisch's"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "account, was Sumerian cylinder seals."}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "Just like I said before, they were not"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "decorative artifacts, they were reverse"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "engineered schematics, technical"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "documentation pressed into clay many,"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "many, many years ago, encoded in the"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "iconography of the earliest written"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "language on earth. And it just so"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "happens that the 5,000 seals from the"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "museum, in the Burisch's account, were"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "the documentation set. And he said that"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "there is no doubt whatsoever, when it"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "comes to the looking glasses, and when"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "it comes to the stargate technology,"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "that it has been decommissioned. Well,"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "the footage has been uploaded to"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "projectcamelot.org,"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "and the transcript followed, and it"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "stayed there. Now, Burisch also had a"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "lot of things on his side because he had"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "specific technical details, the broader"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "institutional shape that Salah had"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "hypothesized about 4 years earlier. He"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "just kind of got a lot of things right."}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "I mean, Salah had even said that these"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "cylinder seals were the target. Burisch"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "said they were the schematics. Salah had"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "said that the operation was preemptive."}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "Burisch said the decommissioning was"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "global. So, if this was really nothing"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "more than two unconnected accounts, you"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "know, a researcher and an alleged"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "whistleblower 4 years apart, neither"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "with any institutional acknowledgement"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "behind them, you could, you know,"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "technically close this and walk away"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "because the Exopolitics forms have"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "thousands of stories like it. Pattern"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "matchers and self-proclaimed insiders"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "both unverifyable. Except that the"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "institutional shape Salah had"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "hypothesized about in 2003 was 14 years"}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "later, get this, confirmed by the United"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "States Pentagon. It just so happens that"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "in December of 2017, the New York Times"}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "broke a story, which was that the"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:19", "text": "Pentagon had been running for over a"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "decade a classified program called ATIP,"}, {"start": "00:20:19", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "otherwise known as the Advanced"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "Aerospace Threat Identification Program."}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "Now, the budget was around 22 million,"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "and the senator who had pushed for this"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "program and protected it from being"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:35", "text": "defunded was Senator Harry Reid, the"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:37", "text": "Democrat from Nevada. The director of"}, {"start": "00:20:35", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "the program had been a Pentagon"}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "counterintelligence official named Luis"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "Elizondo. And that man, Elizondo, only 2"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "months prior, in October of 2017,"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "actually resigned from the Department of"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "Defense. And he resigned, by his own"}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "public statement, in protest of how the"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "Pentagon was treating what ATIP had been"}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "studying. At the time, people sort of"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "assumed that those first few weeks after"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "the New York Times article ran, that"}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "ATIP had been studying UFOs or lights in"}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "the sky. It's the kind of thing that you"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "would expect a classified Pentagon"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "program with that name to be studying."}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "But, the more the disclosure unfolded"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "over the following months, the clearer"}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "it became that AATIP had not just been"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:23", "text": "studying lights in the sky. Because the"}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:26", "text": "AATIP funding chain, when it was"}, {"start": "00:21:23", "end": "00:21:28", "text": "eventually traced, ran through a defense"}, {"start": "00:21:26", "end": "00:21:31", "text": "intelligence agency contract called"}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "AWASP. Well, not really, but it's short"}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "for the advanced aerospace weapon system"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:41", "text": "applications program. The DIA had"}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "awarded AWASP to a private aerospace"}, {"start": "00:21:41", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "company called Bigelow Aerospace. And we"}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:48", "text": "all know that to be owned by a man named"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "Robert Bigelow, who is none other than a"}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "real estate billionaire. And guess what"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "else he does? Not only does he own an"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "aerospace company, but he also owns, da"}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "da da ding, Skinwalker Ranch. And in"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "fact, he didn't just buy Skinwalker"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "Ranch, he turned it into his own private"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "research site. From 2008 to 2010, under"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:10", "text": "that same contract by AWASP, the United"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "States government, through Bigelow's"}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "company, was paying scientists and"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "former military contractors to live and"}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:20", "text": "document what was happening there. And"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:23", "text": "what they documented was the entire"}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "spectrum of what the majority, you know,"}, {"start": "00:22:23", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "the general public refer to as"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "paranormal phenomena. We're talking"}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "shadow creatures, werewolves, Bigfoot,"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:34", "text": "all sorts of sci-fi interdimensional"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "stuff going on, you know, poltergeist"}, {"start": "00:22:34", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "activity, objects moving on their own,"}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "light anomalies, things that defy our"}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:44", "text": "realm of physics. So, we know that there"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "was definitely something going on there,"}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "and it was being heavily documented. So,"}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:53", "text": "look, we can really look at this in two"}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:55", "text": "ways. Sala in 2003 pattern matched on"}, {"start": "00:22:53", "end": "00:22:57", "text": "public reporting and got lucky on the"}, {"start": "00:22:55", "end": "00:22:59", "text": "broader shape, right? He guessed and the"}, {"start": "00:22:57", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "shape turned out to be there."}, {"start": "00:22:59", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "As for Iraq specifically, the cylinder"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "seals, the basement level breach, the"}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "tanks that didn't intervene, none of"}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:10", "text": "that is in any of the disclosed ATIP"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "files. None of it has really been"}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:15", "text": "independently confirmed by any"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "institutional source. Burisch's 2007"}, {"start": "00:23:15", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "interview was, I guess in this reading,"}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:23", "text": "a fabrication that just happened to"}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "align with Salas hypothesis because"}, {"start": "00:23:23", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "Burisch had happened to read that"}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:30", "text": "hypothesis. So really, it's coincidence"}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:31", "text": "plus the human tendency to find patterns"}, {"start": "00:23:30", "end": "00:23:34", "text": "in the noise."}, {"start": "00:23:31", "end": "00:23:36", "text": "Now, the other one is that there's"}, {"start": "00:23:34", "end": "00:23:39", "text": "actually truth in this."}, {"start": "00:23:36", "end": "00:23:41", "text": "Sala in 2003 was reading a real"}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:44", "text": "institutional pattern. The same one that"}, {"start": "00:23:41", "end": "00:23:45", "text": "14 years later the Pentagon would be"}, {"start": "00:23:44", "end": "00:23:48", "text": "forced to disclose."}, {"start": "00:23:45", "end": "00:23:50", "text": "Burisch in 2007 was a real corroborator"}, {"start": "00:23:48", "end": "00:23:52", "text": "with real internal knowledge, which is"}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:56", "text": "why his three-component breakdown of the"}, {"start": "00:23:52", "end": "00:23:59", "text": "technology was as specific as it was."}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:24:01", "text": "The Iraq case is real. The 5,000 seals"}, {"start": "00:23:59", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "were extracted because they were what"}, {"start": "00:24:01", "end": "00:24:06", "text": "the operation was after. And the reason"}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:08", "text": "the ATIP files do not mention Iraq is"}, {"start": "00:24:06", "end": "00:24:10", "text": "that the Iraq operation was held back"}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:11", "text": "from disclosure. It was simply"}, {"start": "00:24:10", "end": "00:24:14", "text": "compartmentalized at a higher"}, {"start": "00:24:11", "end": "00:24:16", "text": "classification. So, folks, what do you"}, {"start": "00:24:14", "end": "00:24:18", "text": "guys think? I'd love to know your"}, {"start": "00:24:16", "end": "00:24:20", "text": "thoughts. And because you guys made it"}, {"start": "00:24:18", "end": "00:24:22", "text": "this far, I want you to all comment down"}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:24", "text": "below Stargate. So that way I know who"}, {"start": "00:24:22", "end": "00:24:26", "text": "made it to the end and who didn't. 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On a summer"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "afternoon in 1982 at a Soviet military"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "base high up in the mountains of"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "Kyrgystan, Damiano walked into the"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "briefing room and he set a thin manila"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "folder on a long wooden table at the"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "front of the room. There were maybe 10"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "or 12 officers already inside, all"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "mid-rank, sitting at a long wooden table"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "that ran almost the full length of the"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "wall. 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Everything he had"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "told them so far, he had been telling"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "them from memory. Now, he told them that"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "he had brought them here today because"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "he had been ordered to. He had been"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "ordered to tell them everything. And he"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "had been ordered when he was finished to"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "hand each of them a copy of the document"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "inside that folder. a document that had"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "come down from the Ministry of Defense"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "and they would in turn be expected to"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "circulate it to every diver under their"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "command. So, as you can imagine, this"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "was a big deal. But before he handed out"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "the document, Demienko said that the men"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "in this room had to understand what the"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "document was responding to because on"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "its own, the document was not going to"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "make any sense. The document only made"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "sense if they understood what had"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "happened in the water. And so he began"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "to walk them through it. He told them"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "about the descent. Seven men in"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "formation going down the line into Lake"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "Ball in clear cold water on what should"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "have been just another afternoon. They"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "had hit the 50 m mark and held there."}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "They were running a buddy pair drill."}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "Three pairs plus the team lead. Lights"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "on the helmets, signal cords clipped"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "between them. the whole formation in a"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "loose circle around their line down. And"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "for several moments, there was nothing"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "happening. They were just in the water"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "doing the drill that they had done a"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "hundred times before. And then Demienko"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "explained that one of the divers saw"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "something. Now, this is the part where"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "Demienko slowed down. The officers at"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "the table could feel it, and he couldn't"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "say what the diver saw. He just said"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "that the diver saw something and he"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "signaled it through the cord to the man"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "next to him. The man next to him"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "signaled to the man next to him and"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "within a few seconds the whole formation"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "knew. All looking in the same direction"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "at the same thing. Now, one of the seven"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "on the outer edge of the circle was the"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "first to register it. He felt the"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "tension in his cord shift before he even"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "saw anything. and he turned and his"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "helmet light tracked across the water"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "and caught for a fraction of a second a"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "shape and then the cord at his wrist"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "pulled again. And when he looked back at"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "the rest of the formation, all of them"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "were turned the same direction, all of"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "them holding very still. Now, Demiano"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "told the officers that within roughly 1"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "minute of the initial sighting, the team"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "lead made a decision. He gave the order"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "to attempt a capture. Now, a couple of"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "the officers at the table, Demianenko,"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "could see it on their faces. They"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "flinched at that because a capture order"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "on a routine training dive at 50 m with"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "no support vessel rigged for retrieval"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "does not make any sense. You don't bring"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "nets on a training dive. You don't bring"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "restraints. You don't go into water"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "expecting to take something out of it."}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "But the team lead, Demiono said, had"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "gone in with a net. And whether that was"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "a contingency or whether he had been"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "briefed on something the rest of the"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "team had not been briefed on, Demianenko"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "did not say. He just explained that the"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "net was there and the order was given"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "and the divers then moved into position."}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "The diver on the outer edge of the"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "circle felt the line slacken near his"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "hip and he understood the team was going"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "wider. Now the man to his left was"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "unspooling the net and he could feel it"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "through the water. the way water moves"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "when something heavy and woven slides"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "through it. He held his position and he"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "waited for the next signal. But there"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "was no next signal. When there was,"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "Demiano explained that was the end of"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "the dive. And he told the room that"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "within seconds of the net being"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "deployed, every single diver in the"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "formation was expelled to the surface."}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "not one or two of them, but all seven at"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "the same time in formation without any"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "of them actually swimming. And so he"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "kind of just let that sit for a moment"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "and he said it again slowly. Seven of"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "them at 50 m were pushed to the surface"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "of Lake Ball in a single coordinated"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "movement and the formation that they had"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "been holding at a speed that none of"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "them could have generated themselves. So"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "whatever had moved them through the"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "water and Damianenko was very careful"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "with his words here. It had moved them"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "as a group. When the seven of them broke"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "the surface, they came up with the same"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "moment, still in formation, still cabled"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "together. And the first sound the"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "surface crew heard from the water was"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "screaming. Demiano did not at this point"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "really describe the injuries the men had"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "sustained on the way up. He only said"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "that all seven of them were pulled onto"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "the support boat alive and that within"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "the next several hours, three of them"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "would not be. He told them what"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "decompression sickness was. Although"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "most of the officers in the room already"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "knew, but he told them anyway. And"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "that's because the document in the"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "folder would only make sense if they"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "understood the sequence. When a diver"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "descends, nitrogen dissolves into the"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "blood. And the deeper they go, the more"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "nitrogen. The longer he stays, the more"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "nitrogen. On a controlled ascent, the"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "nitrogen comes out very slowly as the"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "body kind of breathes it off. This is"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "what the ascent rate is for. It is why"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "it exists. That is what the"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "decompression stops are for. The body"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "has to be given time to release the gas"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "without it forming bubbles in the blood"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "and the joints and the spinal cord."}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "which is why a dive at 50 meters, there"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "is going to be stops at prescribed"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "depths along the way where they do their"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "decompression stops. And the by call 7"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "had crossed that distance in roughly the"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "same time it takes to draw a breath."}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "Every man in that formation had come out"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "of the water with severe decompression"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "sickness. All of them nitrogen bubbles"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "in their blood, in their joints, in"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "their spinal cord. Some of them were"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "paralyzed below the chest before the"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "boat had even turned for shore. Others"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "screaming, conscious in pain that no one"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "in the surface crew had been trained to"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "properly manage. Now, there was a"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "hyperbaric chamber at the base, a"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "decompression chamber, which is standard"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "treatment for the bends or decompression"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "sickness, but it only held two people."}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "Demiano did not raise his voice when he"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "explained this. He just said it, a"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "twoperson chamber. Seven men needing it."}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "Well, the math was the math. The team"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "lead made the call. Unfortunately, the"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "two most critical men were put into the"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "chamber first and the other five were"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "held on the surface, given oxygen, kept"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "stable, and they had to wait for their"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "turn. Now, one of the seven lying on the"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "deck of the support boat, his vision"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "began narrowing at the edges, and he"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "could feel the ribs of the boat through"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "his back, and he could hear the chamber"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "hatch closing somewhere behind him. and"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "he could hear the man next to him"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "breathing in short, fast bursts and then"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "breathing again in broken gasps. He did"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "not know yet whether he was the next one"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "in or one of the ones still being held."}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "He did not know yet who had already"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "gone. Three of the five men held on the"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "surface died on the deck of the support"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "boat. They died from the decompression"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "injury, untreated for the time it took"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "to cycle the first two divers through."}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "The chamber had not killed them, and it"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "simply had not been able to hold them."}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "Now, Demiano explained that he was going"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "to tell them what the seven men had been"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "ordered to capture. He looked down at"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "the table for a moment, not at the"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "folder, just at the table, and then he"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "began. What the diver on the outer edge"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "had seen when his helmet light tracked"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "across the water and caught for a"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "fraction of a second on a shape. What he"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "had seen was a figure. And the figure"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "was not alone. In fact, there were three"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "of them. And they were standing in the"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "water at 50 meters of depth in a loose"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "vertical column holding still. They were"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "holding still the way a person stands on"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "solid ground. Not the way a diver holds"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "station, finning slightly, adjusting"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "against the current. They were what"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "appeared to be standing. And they were 3"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "m tall, about 10 ft larger than any"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "human being. And strangest is that they"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "were wearing suits that were silver and"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "they were tight to the body. And the"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "body underneath the suit was humanoid in"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "shape. You know, two arms, two legs, one"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "head, but the proportions were off as"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "well. The arms were long, the torso was"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "really long, but the arrangement was"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "again the arrangement of a human being."}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "And on the heads, instead of helmets"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "like the ones the Soviet divers were"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "wearing, they were spears, very smooth,"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "silvery spears, but there was no face"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "plate or visor or any seam that was"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "visible. There was also no aqua lung or"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "tank or hose or regulator or mouthpiece."}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "No sort of breathing apparatus was"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "visible at all. The diver on the outer"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "edge held his light on them and he felt"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "the cord at his wrist pole. And so he"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "turned his head and the rest of the"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "formation was already turned already"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "looking at the same thing that he was."}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "And then through the cord the team lead"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "signal came down the line capture. But"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "he didn't understand the order. None of"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "them really did. But the net was already"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "in motion and he could feel it through"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "the water. The slow heavy drag of it"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "kind of going wide and then the man to"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "his left was paying it out. And so the"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "net swept forward and then the diver on"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "the outer edge was no longer at the"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "outer edge of a formation. Had 50 m in."}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "He was rising all of them and he could"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "see the formation around him still"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "intact, still cabled and together. and"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "his teammates's lights were all still"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "on. And the lights were moving up"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "through the water with him at a speed he"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "could not generate. The figures had not"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "moved. He could see them below him now."}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "Three columns of silver in the dark,"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "holding the same position they had held"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "before the net was deployed. The seven"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "of them had been pushed up and away as"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "if by a hand none of them could see."}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "None of the figures had touched any of"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "them. None of the figures had gestured."}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "Now, in the briefing room, Damiano"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "stopped and he waited. And then he"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "reached for the folder. Inside were the"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "copies of the bulletin from the Ministry"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "of Defense. He did not read it aloud. He"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "didn't summarize it. He just took the"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "copies in his hand and he walked the"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "length of the table and he set one down"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "in front of each of the officers in the"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "room. Pages were thin. The print was"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "clean and none of the men picked them up"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "while Damianenko was still walking. Now"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "when he had distributed all the copies,"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "he returned to his end of the table and"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "he just stood there and he explained to"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "them that the bulletin in front of them"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "was not a recommendation but an order"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "and under no circumstances ever was any"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "diver under their command to attempt to"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "engage, capture, or interfere with"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "anything that matched the description he"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "had just given them. If a diver"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "encountered such a thing, they were to"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "surface in a controlled descent"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "immediately. There would be no second"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "attempt at what the men in Lake Ball had"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "been ordered to do. The officers had the"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "bulletin in front of them on the table"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "and none of them had picked it up yet."}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "And eventually one of them, a captain,"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "at the far end of the table, he reached"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "for his copy and he read it once through"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "and he set it down. And then he picked"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "it up again. And so the man next to him"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "reached for his copy and the man after"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "that. And within about a whole minute,"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "the room was reading the bulletin in"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "silence. Damiano did not say anything."}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "He had said everything he had been"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "ordered to say. When the officers"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "finished reading, they didn't ask"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "questions because there were none to"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "ask. The bulletin gave them an order,"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "and the briefing had given them the"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "reason for the order, and a question"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "would have suggested the order was open"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "to interpretation, which it was not. And"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "one by one, the officers stood up, they"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "folded their copies, and they left the"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "room. Now, for the next 10 years, the"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "dive at Lake Bol did not exist. At least"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "not in operational reports, not in unit"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "records or any document the Soviet Navy"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "ever made public. The four men who"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "survived were medically discharged and"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "scattered across military hospitals, and"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "none of them spoke about it at all. The"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "Soviet Ministry of Defense, their"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "equivalent of the Pentagon, issued the"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "bulletin that Demiano had been ordered"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "to circulate. And that bulletin went out"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "across every diving unit in the Soviet"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "Union. The Black Sea Fleet, the Baltic"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "Fleet, the Pacific Fleet, the Northern"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "Fleet, every base, every body of water."}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "Under no circumstances ever were the men"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "under their command to attempt to"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "engage, capture or interfere with"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "anything matching the description. That"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "part is documented. But what is not"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "documented is the rest of the bulletin."}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "The section that explained the"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "description in detail because the"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "primary text of that document has never"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "been publicly produced. It exists in the"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "public record only as something that"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "other people remember reading. Demiano"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "had it. The officers in the briefing"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "room had it. The diving units across the"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "Soviet Union had it. And somewhere"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "between 1982 and the collapse of the"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "Soviet Union, 9 years later, the"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "document went into a vault. And the"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "vault has not opened since. Now, in"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "1992, 10 years after the dive, a man"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "named Mark Stenberg published an article"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "in the Anomalia magazine, which is the"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "closest thing the posts Soviet world had"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "to APRO, the American Aerial Phenomenon"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "Research Organization that had spent"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "decades collecting accounts that the US"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "military didn't want to talk about. Now,"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "Stenberg's article was the first time"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "that the Lake Ball incident appeared in"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "any public source. He described the"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "dive. He described the ascent, the"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "chamber, the bulletin, and it ran in"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "issue number four of that year. And it"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "referenced by name the Ministry of"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "Defense document that had gone to every"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "diving unit in the country. Now,"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "Steinberg was not making the story up."}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "His sources were named officers,"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "including Demiano himself, who had been"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "in or adjacent to the briefing chain."}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "And he was corroborated on the record by"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "a second man, Vladimir Akahaka. I'm"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "serious, that's actually how you"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "pronounce his last name. And he was a"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "former officer of the Soviet Navy and"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "one of the country's earliest public"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "ephologist, naval engineer by training,"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "doctor of philosophy in the natural"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "sciences. This is a guy who had served"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "on Soviet submarines, and he had retired"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "into research. And he stated publicly"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "that classified Soviet Navy records on"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "what he called us or unidentified"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "submerged objects and on aquatic"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "humanoids did in fact exist and that he"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "had personally seen some of them and"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "that the Lake Bol incident was one of"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "multiple such cases that the Soviet Navy"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "had recorded over the course of the Cold"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "War. This isn't just some fringe account"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "in a magazine getting published. These"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "are military officials who are saying,"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "\"Yeah, uh, it's real. We kind of hid it"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "from the public. Oops.\" So, the bulletin"}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "that Damian Yanenko had been ordered to"}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "circulate, guys, it was real. And it was"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "not the only bulletin like it that had"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "ever been issued either because this is"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "the version that exists in the record."}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "The other version is the one the"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "institution itself prefers. KJB and"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "after 1991 its successor the FSB has"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "never acknowledged the bulletin right"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "and they've pointed out that with some"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "force that the town of Seo Bicowski was"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:35", "text": "not even formally established until 84"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:37", "text": "which was 2 years after the alleged"}, {"start": "00:20:35", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "incident. Now this is a real argument"}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "and it does deserve to be heard but it"}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "accounts for a place name that got"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "attached to the story in later"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "retellings and not for the story itself."}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "The dive was at Lake Bhol. The bases on"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "the lakes's southern shore were"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:55", "text": "operational in 82 and had been for"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "decades. Every documented element of the"}, {"start": "00:20:55", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "case, the depth, the unit, the chamber"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "capacity, the casualty pattern, the"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "bulletin's distribution chain, all sits"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "inside a structure that existed in 1982,"}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "regardless of what was or wasn't named"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "at the lakes's other end. Now, nitrogen"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "narcosis is very real and at 50 m divers"}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "can hallucinate. They can panic. But"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "nitrogen narcosis does not push seven"}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "men in formation from 50 m to the"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "surface in just a few seconds. Nor does"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:32", "text": "it produce identical accounts and four"}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "independent eyewitnesses or a written"}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "bulletin from the Ministry of Defense."}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "And if you think that's crazy, well, the"}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:43", "text": "Lake Ball isn't some ooh isolated case"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "either because in 1984, 2 years after"}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:49", "text": "the briefing that Demianenko gave, a"}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "Soviet naval encounter in the Baltic Sea"}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "was documented in the work of two"}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:57", "text": "Western investigators, Paul Stonehill,"}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "who is a Russian-born Cold War analyst,"}, {"start": "00:21:57", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "and Philip Mantle, a British researcher"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:05", "text": "whose research eventually appeared in a"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "book called Russia's USO secrets. Now,"}, {"start": "00:22:05", "end": "00:22:10", "text": "the Baltic incident, they wrote,"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:14", "text": "involved a Soviet vessel encountering a"}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "submerged object of unknown origin."}, {"start": "00:22:14", "end": "00:22:19", "text": "Multiple casualties among personnel"}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "attempting to engage it. And this is the"}, {"start": "00:22:19", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "part that matches like by call beat"}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "forbeat. A classified detective issued"}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:28", "text": "by the Soviet naval command in the"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "aftermath, ordering all units to"}, {"start": "00:22:28", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "disengage rather than attempt capture."}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "And Stonehill and Mantle were not the"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "only researchers to surface that pattern"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "because in the early 90s as the Soviet"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "Union dissolved and pieces of the Cold"}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:45", "text": "War archive began to leak out in"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "fragments, the same shape kept"}, {"start": "00:22:45", "end": "00:22:51", "text": "reappearing. Underwater encounters at"}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:53", "text": "depth, mass casualty events when divers"}, {"start": "00:22:51", "end": "00:22:56", "text": "or submariners tried to engage,"}, {"start": "00:22:53", "end": "00:22:59", "text": "highlevel military bulletins issued in"}, {"start": "00:22:56", "end": "00:23:01", "text": "the aftermath ordering disengagement."}, {"start": "00:22:59", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "Now, the bulletin that was issued was"}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "one of an unknown number of documents"}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "and an unknown number of vaults"}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:11", "text": "addressing a category of incident the"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:13", "text": "Soviet Navy was officially confident did"}, {"start": "00:23:11", "end": "00:23:16", "text": "not exist. And what that means"}, {"start": "00:23:13", "end": "00:23:19", "text": "structurally is that Lake Ball in 1982"}, {"start": "00:23:16", "end": "00:23:22", "text": "is not an outlier. It is a node in a"}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:25", "text": "pattern. The Soviet Ministry of Defense"}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "maintains that to this day the 1982 by"}, {"start": "00:23:25", "end": "00:23:30", "text": "call incident does not appear in any"}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:32", "text": "operational record. It doesn't exist."}, {"start": "00:23:30", "end": "00:23:34", "text": "But the bulletin that Damianenko was"}, {"start": "00:23:32", "end": "00:23:37", "text": "ordered to circulate is still cited by"}, {"start": "00:23:34", "end": "00:23:40", "text": "name in Mark Stenberg's 92 article"}, {"start": "00:23:37", "end": "00:23:42", "text": "anomaly magazine and it is still"}, {"start": "00:23:40", "end": "00:23:45", "text": "referenced in Vladimir's published"}, {"start": "00:23:42", "end": "00:23:47", "text": "statements about Soviet Navy USO"}, {"start": "00:23:45", "end": "00:23:48", "text": "records. The primary text of that"}, {"start": "00:23:47", "end": "00:23:51", "text": "bulletin has never been publicly"}, {"start": "00:23:48", "end": "00:23:54", "text": "produced. The four survivors of the by"}, {"start": "00:23:51", "end": "00:23:56", "text": "call 7 never returned to active duty and"}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:23:58", "text": "none of them ever spoke on the record"}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "about what they saw at 50 meters of"}, {"start": "00:23:58", "end": "00:24:01", "text": "depth. I mean if you think about it if"}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:04", "text": "the US government has all sorts of"}, {"start": "00:24:01", "end": "00:24:07", "text": "archives about encounters with humanoids"}, {"start": "00:24:04", "end": "00:24:09", "text": "and USOs or what are they now UAPs then"}, {"start": "00:24:07", "end": "00:24:11", "text": "you have to start thinking what do all"}, {"start": "00:24:09", "end": "00:24:13", "text": "the other governments in the world have"}, {"start": "00:24:11", "end": "00:24:15", "text": "record of? I mean, I don't know about"}, {"start": "00:24:13", "end": "00:24:17", "text": "you guys, but you know, if you look at"}, {"start": "00:24:15", "end": "00:24:19", "text": "each country individually, I can only"}, {"start": "00:24:17", "end": "00:24:22", "text": "imagine what their archives contain. But"}, {"start": "00:24:19", "end": "00:24:25", "text": "unfortunately, we little peeons, you"}, {"start": "00:24:22", "end": "00:24:26", "text": "know, the public will never know. And"}, {"start": "00:24:25", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "because you guys made it this far, I"}, {"start": "00:24:26", "end": "00:24:30", "text": "want you to all comment down below Lake"}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:32", "text": "Vall. So that way I know who made it to"}, {"start": "00:24:30", "end": "00:24:34", "text": "the end and who didn't. And if you guys"}, {"start": "00:24:32", "end": "00:24:36", "text": "enjoy this kind of storytelling where we"}, {"start": "00:24:34", "end": "00:24:37", "text": "deep dive into strange cases of the"}, {"start": "00:24:36", "end": "00:24:39", "text": "mysterious and supernatural, what are"}, {"start": "00:24:37", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "you waiting for? Smack that like and"}, {"start": "00:24:39", "end": "00:24:43", "text": "subscribe button right now for more"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:45", "text": "content just like this. And as always,"}, {"start": "00:24:43", "end": "00:24:46", "text": "never forget, I love you all. Keep an"}, {"start": "00:24:45", "end": "00:24:49", "text": "open mind, and I'll see you all in the"}, {"start": "00:24:46", "end": "00:24:49", "text": "very next episode."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "There are things in our national parks"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "and forest that we clearly don't"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "understand. In this episode, I'm going"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "to share with you a series of some of"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "the most frightening encounters from"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "different individuals. You won't want to"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "miss this one. A number of years ago, a"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "young man who had just finished school,"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "he was in his early 20s, took a job as a"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "park ranger in the large caverns"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "national park. This was a job he had"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "really been working for for a while. He"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "was very practical, very detail"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "oriented. I mean, this was his job"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "field. The park had a series of caves"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "that were designed for tours, you know,"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "so they were lit up so you would have a"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "park guide and tourists that would go"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "through and they could see all the"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "beautiful workings and intricacies of"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "the caverns. 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Now, back to"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "the story. the shop was closed down that"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "nobody was kind of lingering around and"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "and so on one of these days he was in"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "one of the active tour caves, you know,"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "up on a step ladder with his headlamp on"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "and he was changing one of the lights."}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "And as he's really focused on trying to"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "get this next bulb in cuz he just can't"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "get it right and he's kind of struggling"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "and he doesn't really understand why, he"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "hears this noise behind him. 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So he's like, \"Okay, well, why"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "is there somebody else in here with me"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "in the dark calling out to me?\" And so"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "he pauses and he's listening intently"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "cuz, you know, he's he's on alert now."}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "And he starts to hear what sounds like"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "footsteps, but it's it's different,"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "though. It's kind of like a like this"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "almost wet slapping sound like on the"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "cave floor. And if you had to estimate,"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "I mean, it we're probably talking like"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "maybe 20 or 30 feet. So, whoever this is"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "is literally right there. You know,"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "naturally, he starts to panic a little"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "bit. And his hand does not leave that"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "light bulb. And he just keeps his"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "headlamp on that same spot. And all he"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "could focus on are his other senses in"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "the dark. And he's listening intently."}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "And, you know, he's turning his eyes"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "like this just hoping that there will be"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "some something that reveals itself. you"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "know, whether the reason why the person"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "is coming up to him or what because he"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "doesn't know. But obviously at this"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "point, his mind starts to race through a"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "myriad of things. You know, he's"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "thinking, okay, is this is this like an"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "animal? Is this somebody in here with"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "ill intent? You know, maybe it's a bat"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "or maybe it's just water seepage. And"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "that the acoustics of the cave are just"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "messing with my head because, well, that"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "obviously can happen. And so even though"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "all these thoughts are running through"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "his mind, he's like, \"You know what?"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "Focus, focus.\" So he kind of just, you"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "know, fixes the bulb. He's done. He"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "takes his hand off. He climbs back down"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "the step ladder. You know, he starts"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "looking around, shunning his headlamp"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "around, but he doesn't see any trace of"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "anyone. There's no, you know, wet tracks"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "or anything on the cave floor around"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "him. So, you know, he's kind of confused"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "by what he had heard and what he had"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "experienced. But he starts to think,"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "maybe I really was just tripping out,"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "you know, hearing the dripping sounds."}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "And so he's kind of, you know, just"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "shaking it off like whatever. He exits"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "the cave back into daylight, you know,"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "and again, there is no trace of anybody"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "going in and out of that cave. So he's"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "pretty perplexed by this experience, but"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "you know, at the time he kind of just"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "wrote it off as just a weird thing that"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "happened. It was not anything to be"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "like, \"Guys, I encountered a ghost.\" You"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "know, so he just continued on with his"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "normal everyday life. This wouldn't be"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "the last time that it happened to him"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "because just a few weeks later, a very"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "identical experience happened. He's back"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "in another part of the cavern. He's up"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "on a stepladder. He's changing a light"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "bulb and he hears the same sound. Not"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "somebody calling out to him, but like"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "this wet slapping sound as if somebody"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "is coming up to him. And he just did the"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "same thing. You know, he didn't turn"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "around to see who it was. He just froze"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "and he listened. Now, obviously, since"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "he's the only one in here and he really"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "has the only source of light with his"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "headlamp, you know, if he were off in"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "the dark and you saw him, he would stick"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "out like a sore thumb, right? Because"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "you just see his headlamp glowing or his"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "headlamp shining. But, you know, he"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "didn't move. He just stood there holding"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "the light again. And when the sound"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "ceased, you know, he got back down the"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "step ladder, he looked around again."}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "There was no reason that he should have"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "heard those noises. So, he's just like,"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "\"Okay, I'm there's something happening"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "here. I'm tripping out. I don't know"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "what it is. So, this kept happening for"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "at least another three, four, five"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "times. And he just didn't understand"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "why, but he never, you know, he never"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "tried to say that it was like spirits or"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "anything weird. He just was like, I I"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "don't know what it is. I don't know why"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "I'm having this experience. It's just"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "strange. You he tried to rationalize it"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "in many different ways, like, okay,"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "well, you know, it was the water"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "dripping from the cavern or it was a"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "raccoon. But, you know, by the fifth"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "time, he's like, \"Okay, this obviously"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "can't be a raccoon because it's just not"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "adding up. Like, this doesn't make sense"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "why this keeps happening.\" And so, over"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "time, you know, when he saw that he had"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "to do light bulb duty, he would just be"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "like, \"Oh my gosh, I don't want to do"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "this because this would just keep"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "happening. Not every time, but often"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "enough that it would really bother him.\""}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "And I mean, what is he going to tell his"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "boss, you know? So, he just Oh, he just"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "decided not to really say anything about"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "it. and he just went on with his life"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "and did what he needed to do. Now,"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "during this series of events, there were"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "other things that had happened to him."}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "So, at his particular station, he had"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "this sort of like motion sensor alert,"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "and for whatever reason, I don't even"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "understand why it had this particular"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "sound, but if it got triggered, it would"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "make this kind of meow sound. And I"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "guess some of the other ranger stations"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "around, they had a similar model, but it"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "didn't, you know, theirs made a"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "completely different sound. And so"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "anytime another ranger happened to drop"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "by to, you know, tell him something or"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "just have conversation, it would go off."}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "And it sounded so bad that it actually"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "became this kind of running joke. you"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "know, they would start to make fun of"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "him, you know, would go off or they'd"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "come over just to make the the motion"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "sensor go off and they'd laugh at him"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "saying, \"Oh, you know, your cat's awake"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "again. You know, got to go deal with"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "it.\" And so, as this has kind of become"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "a running joke, that sound, right,"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "because it's attached to an experience"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "is pretty much mapped into his mind,"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "like, you know, if he hears that sound"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "immediately he's going to like, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "it's the motion sensor, right?\" So, one"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "of these days he's off on a trail,"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "probably doing his rounds, doing"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "something ranger related, obviously, and"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "he starts to hear a noise off in the"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "woods near him, and he immediately"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "recognizes it for what it is. It's that"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "meowing sensor sound. Now, immediately,"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "he stops and kind of has to do a double"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "take, you know, because things aren't"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "adding up here. And at this particular"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "point, he is at least several miles away"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "from his ranger station where the motion"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "sensor actually exists. So the fact that"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "he's hearing it out here makes no sense"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "whatsoever. And so he's so baffled by"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "this and he's looking out in the in the"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "tree line, the wilderness where the"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "sound is coming from, he can't see"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "anywhere that it's coming from or why"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "it's even playing out there. And he's"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "baffled and he's confused and he's like,"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "\"What? Like what's happening? This"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "doesn't make any sense. And as this is"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "going on, he then hears the meow come"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "from behind him and then immediately to"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "his right. Now he's starting to get"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "creeped out because whatever is making"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "that sound is clearly circling him in"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "one way or another and he has no idea"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "what it is or who it is or why. Now his"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "first initial thought is, well, it's"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "obviously a mocking bird, right? Because"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "they can mimic sounds or you know like"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "one of the other rangers is out here and"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "they're just they're trolling me."}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "They're trying to mess with my head. But"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "obviously those things aren't true in"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "this situation. And so his fight"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "orflight instincts start to kick in and"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "he just marches himself back to the"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "ranger station. The whole, you know, 3 4"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "miles back. He's pretty tense by this"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "point. And the meowing sounds actually"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "kind of follow him and at some point"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "they eventually just, you know, stop"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "altogether. Now these events were all"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "happening simultaneously throughout his"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "time here at this park. And one of the"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "other events that took place happened to"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "be with the museum. At the end of every"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "one of his shifts, part of his job was"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "to go through the museum. You know, like"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "I told you guys earlier, he'd have to go"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "through, make sure nobody was around,"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "nobody was in areas they shouldn't be,"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "lock things up, make sure everything is"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "kosher, and pretty much every single"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "night that he would go through and, you"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "know, do his nightly walk through to"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "turn things off, he would hear what he"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "described as voices. And it was mainly"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "on the first floor, but you know, it"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "sounded like a couple talking or a"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "family off in the distance. And the"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "voices were muffled enough that you"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "couldn't make out exact words, but they"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "were audible enough that you could tell"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "that there was clearly people having"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "some sort of conversation nearby. You"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "know, obviously, he would go and check"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "it out and he would investigate the"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "area, but there was clearly nobody"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "around. There was nobody staying in the"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "museum, even though this happened pretty"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "much nightly. There was a time in"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "particular where he had heard a set of"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "voices coming from upstairs on the"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "second floor. Now, the main exhibits"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "were on floor one or I guess what the"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "first floor. So, he goes up there to"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "investigate. You know, he's calling out,"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "\"Hello, you know, if you're here, you"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "need to leave because it's after hours.\""}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "And the second he gets to the second"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "story, the voices just stop entirely."}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "He's trying to think rationally. And on"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "the second story, there's a balcony that"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "overlooks the back lawn. So he's like,"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "\"Okay, well maybe there's some guests"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "and they're out there in the balcony. I"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "need to go tell them to get out.\" So,"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "you know, he walks over there and keep"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "in mind it is pitch black at this point."}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "And as he makes his way onto the balcony"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "below where the woodline is, he suddenly"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "hears this immense crashing sound as if"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "something big was suddenly startled and"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "just began crashing through the"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "underbrush. And of course, this startles"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "him and he's very much on edge and he"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "begins to think that whatever that is is"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "probably the largest raccoon I've ever"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "heard in my life. Like this isn't making"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "any sense whatsoever. One other thing"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "you need to understand about this park"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "is that during the rainy season, the"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "caves flood like really bad and the deep"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "cave system floods so heavily that"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "there's parts of the tour caves that are"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "that they become physically sealed off."}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "I mean, we're talking like 15 ft of"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "standing water in places where before"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "there was nothing but a hallway. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "you physically cannot get in. And so,"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "over the rainy seasons that he worked"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "there, he'd heard other people's voices"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "coming from those sealed off rooms. You"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "know, the rooms were, you know, you"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "could see with your own eyes that nobody"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "could physically get into. And even more"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "bizarre is he'd hear a co-orker's voice"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "in there talking like normal. and he'd"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "never thought hard about it. But his"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "working theory at the time, if you asked"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "him, was that whatever thing was living"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "in the deeper cave system got pushed out"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "into the tour areas when the water rose."}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "And so on one rainy season day, he's"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "leading a tour through the caves of the"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "time. And it's in a well-lit corridor."}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "There's a group of tourists behind him,"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "and there are these side chambers that"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "are off the main path that of course are"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "all sealed by water. you could see into"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "them and they're dark. You know, the"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "water's up to your waist if you go"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "there. And the group is being told that,"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "you know, these are off limits. You're"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "not allowed to go in here. And it's also"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "physically inaccessible. And so, as"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "they're walking past these chambers,"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "they're dark, they're flooded, they're"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "sealed. And, you know, he's telling them"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "about them. He hears a voice. And oddly"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "enough, it's his friend, who is another"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "guy who happens to work at the park. And"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "the voice says, clear as anything that"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "he's ever heard, \"Hey, would you mind"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "coming over here and helping me?\" And he"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "immediately stops. The entire tour group"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "stops and he turns and he looks at them"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "and he just watches the color leave"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "every single face in the group because"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "they heard it, too. And it was exactly"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "what he heard. And so they're all"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "looking at each other like, \"There's"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "somebody in there.\" Like, \"How did they"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "get in there?\" because we were told that"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "nobody could physically be in there due"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "to the water level. His brain is trying"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "to come up with a logical explanation,"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "thinking that, you know, maybe his buddy"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "got cut off somehow. Maybe he's actually"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "stuck in there and he needs his help"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "that this is an emergency. And so he"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "explains to the group, look, you guys"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "need to stay here under the lights. I'll"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "be right back. And so he pulls out his"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "Mag Light off the belt and he goes and"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "he steps into the water and it's really"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "cold and it's up to his knees. The water"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "is also still rising. And so he's"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "shining his flashlight around, he sees"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "no sign of his friend or how he could"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "have gotten in there. And he wads around"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "to the doorway into the chamber. And"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "this chamber when he steps into it is"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "much larger than he remembers because it"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "is the biggest room in the entire tour"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "cave system. And he's got his mag light"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "and he's aiming it out into the dark."}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "And the beam, it's so dark is just being"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "devoured, right? It's not hitting"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "anything. There's no wall. There's no"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "ceiling that he could visibly see. It's"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "just darkness. And he's calling his"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "friend's name out like, \"Where are you?"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "I hear you. You know, I want to help"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "you.\" And all of a sudden, he hears a"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "slosh in the water. And it's off to his"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "right close by. And then nothing. So"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "he's standing there in the cold water"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "with his flashlight out calling his name"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "again, and there's no answer. There's no"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "more slosh. And so he's starting to feel"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "pretty panicked at this point. He's"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "like, \"You know what? This is clearly"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "not my friend. I don't know what it is."}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "He turns around and he wades out back to"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "the group and he just finishes the tour"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "at a pace that the group didn't really"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "question. And then the second group was"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "gone and he's walking straight to the"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "ranger station afterwards. And so once"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "he gets there, there's the receptionist"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "at the desk who handled all the sign in"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "and sign out stuff for the personnel who"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "work there. And so he walks up and he's"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "trying to sound as casual and calm as"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "possible, but obviously his nerves are"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "racked. He's kind of shaken up by what"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "just happened. And he's like, \"Hey, uh,"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "do you know, you know, where where my"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "buddy is?\" And obviously he doesn't say"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "that he uses his name. And she doesn't"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "even look up at him. You know, she's"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "doing something at her computer and"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "she's like just matterofactly, oh yeah,"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "you know, he clocked out over an hour"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "ago. You know, why why do you ask? And"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "so he kind of just sits there for a"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "minute and he's like, \"Oh, okay.\" And he"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "walks out. He doesn't actually go and"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "call this friend, nor does he go and try"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "to find him and ask what's going on. He"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "just goes back to whatever the next"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "thing on his day was because he realized"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "that somewhere underneath the part of"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "his brain that was still functioning, he"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "didn't really want to know. On one of"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "the days, which is a little while after"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "this event, he had to go and grab some"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "weed whacker string for the"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "groundskeeping cart. And this particular"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "string was stored in a crawl space"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "located underneath the 1800's museum. So"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "he went over to the museum, he lifted"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "the hatch, and he climbed down. The"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "crawl space, we're not talking about a"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "little space under a porch. I mean, this"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "is a full old cobblestone basement and"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "it was spanning the length of the entire"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "museum building. I mean, this is like"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "dirt floor, stone columns every so often"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "holding up the floor above, no lights"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "except for what he brought. And at the"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "time, it is so pitch black that you"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "could only see as far as the next column"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "because past that, the basement just"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "kind of disappeared into the dark. And"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "so, you know, he got to the the string"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "and he he sat down on the dirt floor and"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "he's trying to untangle the spool of"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "string because it had gotten a little"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "snarled. But, you know, this is just a"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "routine part of his job. And somewhere"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "deeper past the columns in the dark"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "where he cannot see, he hears an audible"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "and he immediately he's annoyed because"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "he's like, \"Somebody's down here."}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "They're trying to screw with my head.\""}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "you know, he doesn't know if this is"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "some sort of like hazing ritual or what,"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "but he's like, \"Okay, a coworker snuck"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "down here. He's trying to mess with me"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "and he calls back, \"What do you need?\""}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "You know, he's really annoyed. And then"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "there's this pause and the voice answers"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "and he hears this very audible, \"Come"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "back here.\" And instantly he freezes and"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "he's getting goosebumps all over his"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "body. and he just kind of like locks his"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "body and he's looking out to the"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:17", "text": "darkness where he heard that voice come"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "from. And this sound he would describe"}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "wasn't like a person calling out to him."}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "It reminded him of how a crow mimics"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "human speech. It was kind of like gurgly"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "and you know how they can almost do a"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "word like the word is there but it's"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "kind of chroling like it's got that"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "weird warble to it. And obviously in"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "that moment he's like you know what I'm"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "done. And the second he's had this"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "realization, he's already moving. He"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "grabs the spool of string. He doesn't"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "untangle it anymore. He just grabs the"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "entire snarled up mess and he moves over"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "to the ladder and he climbs out. And he"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "slams the crawl space door shut and he"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:57", "text": "locks it. And as the lock clicks into"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "place, he feels and he knows it that"}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "he's not imagining this, that there's"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "something rushing up behind the door."}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "and whatever it was that rushed up"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "behind the door sounded really big. So"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "obviously he's very freaked out by all"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "of this, but he needed a day to process"}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "everything. He didn't want to go run to"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "his boss or one of the other senior"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:19", "text": "personnel that worked there and just"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:22", "text": "dump everything on them. So about a"}, {"start": "00:20:19", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "couple days go by and even though he was"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "still rattled, he was very much doing"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "his best to hold down the job and"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "maintain a very professional, you know,"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "demeanor. He didn't want to walk into,"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:35", "text": "you know, one of the stations and act"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:37", "text": "like he was crazy. So eventually he uh"}, {"start": "00:20:35", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "he catches one of the rangers at the"}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "station, one of the senior ones. And"}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "it's a guy who had been there for a"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "while and he knew the place very well,"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "still being professional. He's like,"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "\"Hey, you know, this is going to sound"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "weird and all, but have you ever noticed"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "that when you're out on the trails or in"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "the caves at night or, you know, the"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "museum, have you ever heard anything"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "weird or out of the, you know, out of"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:21:00", "text": "the blue?\" And this guy, you know, he"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "doesn't even miss a beat. He doesn't ask"}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "him to specify. He just looks right up"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "at him and he doesn't look surprised and"}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "he basically just says, you know, don't"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "worry about it. It happens. And he just"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "goes back to what he was doing like it"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "wasn't a big deal and that he's"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "experienced it before, too. And what the"}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "younger ranger thought in that moment or"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:23", "text": "what he thinks he thought is that it's a"}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "little hard to sort out in retrospect."}, {"start": "00:21:23", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "That sentence came out way too fast and"}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "clean. like it would come out if it's"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:32", "text": "been said before, like when it's had"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "practice. So clearly other people had"}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "asked him about it before and he, you"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "know, he was so nonchalant about it."}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:41", "text": "Something had chosen his friend's voice"}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:43", "text": "and it had chosen the exact moment when"}, {"start": "00:21:41", "end": "00:21:45", "text": "his friend was verifiably not in the"}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:48", "text": "cave. It's like it had studied him and"}, {"start": "00:21:45", "end": "00:21:50", "text": "it had waited. And obviously other"}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "people who had worked at the park knew"}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "this as well. Fortunately for him, it"}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "was not long after that he left and he"}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "took another job and he never really"}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:22:01", "text": "went back to working at this particular"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "park. But obviously what he had"}, {"start": "00:22:01", "end": "00:22:05", "text": "experienced during his time there has"}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:07", "text": "clearly stayed with him. So is all of"}, {"start": "00:22:05", "end": "00:22:09", "text": "this phenomenon just a series of strange"}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "events and occurrences that could be,"}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:14", "text": "you know, explained away or did he truly"}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:17", "text": "experience some terrifying supernatural"}, {"start": "00:22:14", "end": "00:22:19", "text": "events that happened? Well, it's hard to"}, {"start": "00:22:17", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "say for sure and unfortunately it"}, {"start": "00:22:19", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "remains a mystery. One summer afternoon"}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "about 20 years ago, a 50-year-old man"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:29", "text": "was packing up his fishing gear inside"}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "of his mountain home in Northern"}, {"start": "00:22:29", "end": "00:22:34", "text": "California, and he was getting ready to"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:37", "text": "head out to his favorite lake for an"}, {"start": "00:22:34", "end": "00:22:39", "text": "afternoon of trout fishing. Now, this"}, {"start": "00:22:37", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "man and his wife had actually bought"}, {"start": "00:22:39", "end": "00:22:44", "text": "this mountain home years before, and a"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:46", "text": "big part of the reason was just because"}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "it was quiet. They love the cedars. They"}, {"start": "00:22:46", "end": "00:22:51", "text": "love the pines. I mean, the entire area"}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:54", "text": "around them was just mountains and"}, {"start": "00:22:51", "end": "00:22:56", "text": "streams, and it was very peaceful, and"}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:22:58", "text": "it's pretty much why they live there."}, {"start": "00:22:56", "end": "00:23:01", "text": "Now, the lake he was planning on going"}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "to that afternoon was only about 8 mi"}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "from his house as the crow flies, so he"}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "didn't even really have to go that far."}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:11", "text": "At the time, he had a good fishing buddy"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:13", "text": "named Mike, and he and Mike had known"}, {"start": "00:23:11", "end": "00:23:15", "text": "each other for years at this point. And"}, {"start": "00:23:13", "end": "00:23:17", "text": "between the two of them, they had"}, {"start": "00:23:15", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "decades of outdoor experience from"}, {"start": "00:23:17", "end": "00:23:22", "text": "hunting, fishing, camping, hiking, you"}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:25", "text": "name it. And so every summer and fall,"}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "they would drive up to this particular"}, {"start": "00:23:25", "end": "00:23:30", "text": "lake several times and they'd go out"}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:32", "text": "there and they'd fish for trout and then"}, {"start": "00:23:30", "end": "00:23:34", "text": "hang out and just chitchat for a while."}, {"start": "00:23:32", "end": "00:23:36", "text": "And the lake is actually in a pretty"}, {"start": "00:23:34", "end": "00:23:39", "text": "remote spot up in the mountains near"}, {"start": "00:23:36", "end": "00:23:41", "text": "Mount Lassen. But the only way to get to"}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:43", "text": "it is you have to take these kind of"}, {"start": "00:23:41", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "rough dirt logging roads for about 45"}, {"start": "00:23:43", "end": "00:23:49", "text": "minutes. I mean, it's really out there."}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:50", "text": "And that was why they picked this lake"}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:53", "text": "because it was hard to reach. You"}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:55", "text": "couldn't just drive up to it. And that"}, {"start": "00:23:53", "end": "00:23:57", "text": "means it was going to be pretty isolated"}, {"start": "00:23:55", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "that nobody else was there. So that"}, {"start": "00:23:57", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "afternoon he loaded up his Jeep and he"}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "had his 17 ft fiberglass canoe strapped"}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:08", "text": "to the top and he had all his gear and"}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:11", "text": "his fishing rod and Mike met up with him"}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:13", "text": "and the two of them drove the 45 minutes"}, {"start": "00:24:11", "end": "00:24:15", "text": "up the logging roads to this lake. And"}, {"start": "00:24:13", "end": "00:24:18", "text": "when they got to the lake, there was"}, {"start": "00:24:15", "end": "00:24:21", "text": "nobody else around. It was perfect."}, {"start": "00:24:18", "end": "00:24:23", "text": "There was not a soul around. It seemed"}, {"start": "00:24:21", "end": "00:24:25", "text": "as if they had the lake to themselves."}, {"start": "00:24:23", "end": "00:24:27", "text": "So excitedly, they unloaded the canoe"}, {"start": "00:24:25", "end": "00:24:30", "text": "off the top of the jeep. They got all"}, {"start": "00:24:27", "end": "00:24:32", "text": "their gear and they pushed the canoe out"}, {"start": "00:24:30", "end": "00:24:34", "text": "onto the water and they paddled out. And"}, {"start": "00:24:32", "end": "00:24:35", "text": "as they got out there, you know, they"}, {"start": "00:24:34", "end": "00:24:38", "text": "were fishing and they were kind of"}, {"start": "00:24:35", "end": "00:24:39", "text": "drifting for about an hour or so. They"}, {"start": "00:24:38", "end": "00:24:42", "text": "weren't really having much luck. And so"}, {"start": "00:24:39", "end": "00:24:45", "text": "a few more hours go by and at this point"}, {"start": "00:24:42", "end": "00:24:46", "text": "it's about 400 p.m. The weather was"}, {"start": "00:24:45", "end": "00:24:48", "text": "absolutely perfect. And you know,"}, {"start": "00:24:46", "end": "00:24:50", "text": "they're sitting there, they're kind of"}, {"start": "00:24:48", "end": "00:24:51", "text": "talking sometimes and other times"}, {"start": "00:24:50", "end": "00:24:53", "text": "they're kind of just getting lost in the"}, {"start": "00:24:51", "end": "00:24:55", "text": "perfect weather around them, not even"}, {"start": "00:24:53", "end": "00:24:57", "text": "caring that they're getting any bites."}, {"start": "00:24:55", "end": "00:25:00", "text": "And so as he's sitting in the back of"}, {"start": "00:24:57", "end": "00:25:03", "text": "the canoe and the sun is on him and he's"}, {"start": "00:25:00", "end": "00:25:05", "text": "feeling as comfortable as you can and he"}, {"start": "00:25:03", "end": "00:25:09", "text": "notices that there's this strange sound"}, {"start": "00:25:05", "end": "00:25:11", "text": "off in the distance and it starts up and"}, {"start": "00:25:09", "end": "00:25:13", "text": "there's there's really no warning to it."}, {"start": "00:25:11", "end": "00:25:16", "text": "It's just kind of like this weird this"}, {"start": "00:25:13", "end": "00:25:18", "text": "strange buildup. And so one second he's"}, {"start": "00:25:16", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "kind of sitting in the back of the canoe"}, {"start": "00:25:18", "end": "00:25:22", "text": "and the afternoon is peaceful and it's"}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:25", "text": "been the same for the last hour and the"}, {"start": "00:25:22", "end": "00:25:28", "text": "next the sound just begins and it's"}, {"start": "00:25:25", "end": "00:25:30", "text": "really really loud and it's so loud that"}, {"start": "00:25:28", "end": "00:25:33", "text": "he can actually feel it and it's coming"}, {"start": "00:25:30", "end": "00:25:35", "text": "from somewhere up on the hillside at the"}, {"start": "00:25:33", "end": "00:25:38", "text": "northeast end of the lake. I mean maybe"}, {"start": "00:25:35", "end": "00:25:39", "text": "1,000 yards away. Him and Mike both kind"}, {"start": "00:25:38", "end": "00:25:42", "text": "of just like you know they look at each"}, {"start": "00:25:39", "end": "00:25:45", "text": "other because it sounds like a train"}, {"start": "00:25:42", "end": "00:25:46", "text": "almost. I mean, it's really loud. And"}, {"start": "00:25:45", "end": "00:25:48", "text": "you know, Mike and then they start"}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:51", "text": "conversing and they're thinking, \"Okay,"}, {"start": "00:25:48", "end": "00:25:53", "text": "well, there's no trains around here that"}, {"start": "00:25:51", "end": "00:25:56", "text": "we're aware of, so why are we hearing"}, {"start": "00:25:53", "end": "00:25:58", "text": "one so close by?\" It's very bizarre. And"}, {"start": "00:25:56", "end": "00:26:00", "text": "as they start to listen more and more,"}, {"start": "00:25:58", "end": "00:26:02", "text": "the sound kind of morphs. It kind of"}, {"start": "00:26:00", "end": "00:26:03", "text": "goes from this train sound, or at least"}, {"start": "00:26:02", "end": "00:26:06", "text": "you know what it that's what it sounds"}, {"start": "00:26:03", "end": "00:26:08", "text": "like, to kind of like this deeper sound,"}, {"start": "00:26:06", "end": "00:26:10", "text": "and it's kind of got this guttural"}, {"start": "00:26:08", "end": "00:26:11", "text": "quality to it. They're listening,"}, {"start": "00:26:10", "end": "00:26:12", "text": "they're like, \"What the heck?\" you know,"}, {"start": "00:26:11", "end": "00:26:14", "text": "they're trying to figure this out"}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:16", "text": "because they don't know what it is, but"}, {"start": "00:26:14", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "there's also kind of like this this"}, {"start": "00:26:16", "end": "00:26:20", "text": "high-pitched I don't even know how to"}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:22", "text": "describe it. It's like this strange"}, {"start": "00:26:20", "end": "00:26:25", "text": "tamber to it. It's almost like you have"}, {"start": "00:26:22", "end": "00:26:27", "text": "two pitches that are layered, but they"}, {"start": "00:26:25", "end": "00:26:29", "text": "can tell that it's all coming from the"}, {"start": "00:26:27", "end": "00:26:31", "text": "same direction, the same source, that"}, {"start": "00:26:29", "end": "00:26:34", "text": "it's some hillside, you know, a thousand"}, {"start": "00:26:31", "end": "00:26:37", "text": "or so yards away if they had to guess."}, {"start": "00:26:34", "end": "00:26:38", "text": "Mike's body locks up. Neither of them"}, {"start": "00:26:37", "end": "00:26:40", "text": "really turn their heads. Neither of them"}, {"start": "00:26:38", "end": "00:26:42", "text": "really say anything. They're kind of"}, {"start": "00:26:40", "end": "00:26:45", "text": "just frozen on this canoe. Both of them"}, {"start": "00:26:42", "end": "00:26:48", "text": "holding their fishing rods and the sound"}, {"start": "00:26:45", "end": "00:26:50", "text": "is just going and it's not stopping. It"}, {"start": "00:26:48", "end": "00:26:52", "text": "doesn't pulsate. It doesn't break or"}, {"start": "00:26:50", "end": "00:26:55", "text": "pause or do anything weird. It just it's"}, {"start": "00:26:52", "end": "00:26:57", "text": "like this long continuous sound from the"}, {"start": "00:26:55", "end": "00:26:59", "text": "hillside across the water. Now, he"}, {"start": "00:26:57", "end": "00:27:01", "text": "doesn't know if he's in danger or what."}, {"start": "00:26:59", "end": "00:27:03", "text": "And so, every instinct in him is just"}, {"start": "00:27:01", "end": "00:27:05", "text": "telling him to just stay still. You"}, {"start": "00:27:03", "end": "00:27:07", "text": "don't know what this is. You know, Mike"}, {"start": "00:27:05", "end": "00:27:09", "text": "doesn't know what this is. This is"}, {"start": "00:27:07", "end": "00:27:11", "text": "something you've never heard before. you"}, {"start": "00:27:09", "end": "00:27:14", "text": "know, be on high alert. And so 15"}, {"start": "00:27:11", "end": "00:27:17", "text": "seconds goes by, mind you, which, you"}, {"start": "00:27:14", "end": "00:27:20", "text": "know, 15 seconds is extremely long for a"}, {"start": "00:27:17", "end": "00:27:22", "text": "single sound to go. It's, you know, it's"}, {"start": "00:27:20", "end": "00:27:24", "text": "like hold your breath for 15 seconds and"}, {"start": "00:27:22", "end": "00:27:26", "text": "try to count that slowly. That's how"}, {"start": "00:27:24", "end": "00:27:29", "text": "long the sound was going for. And as"}, {"start": "00:27:26", "end": "00:27:31", "text": "soon as the sound stops, Mike and him"}, {"start": "00:27:29", "end": "00:27:32", "text": "notice that the sounds of the forest,"}, {"start": "00:27:31", "end": "00:27:33", "text": "you know, just being out in the"}, {"start": "00:27:32", "end": "00:27:35", "text": "wilderness during the day, the insects,"}, {"start": "00:27:33", "end": "00:27:38", "text": "all the noise is not really there"}, {"start": "00:27:35", "end": "00:27:41", "text": "anymore. And now it's so quiet that you"}, {"start": "00:27:38", "end": "00:27:44", "text": "could literally hear a pin drop. And"}, {"start": "00:27:41", "end": "00:27:46", "text": "that in and of itself is so eerie. And"}, {"start": "00:27:44", "end": "00:27:47", "text": "so Mike and him are like, \"Okay, this is"}, {"start": "00:27:46", "end": "00:27:50", "text": "weird.\" Like, \"There's something going"}, {"start": "00:27:47", "end": "00:27:52", "text": "on. This is really, really strange.\" But"}, {"start": "00:27:50", "end": "00:27:53", "text": "yet, you know, they're looking around on"}, {"start": "00:27:52", "end": "00:27:56", "text": "the shoreline because they're not that"}, {"start": "00:27:53", "end": "00:27:58", "text": "far. They don't see anybody. They don't"}, {"start": "00:27:56", "end": "00:28:00", "text": "see any reason why this is happening."}, {"start": "00:27:58", "end": "00:28:02", "text": "And they're even looking back over in"}, {"start": "00:28:00", "end": "00:28:05", "text": "the area where they heard that strange"}, {"start": "00:28:02", "end": "00:28:07", "text": "train noise. But even then, still"}, {"start": "00:28:05", "end": "00:28:09", "text": "nothing. You know, Mike, who's sitting"}, {"start": "00:28:07", "end": "00:28:11", "text": "in front, you know, just turns around"}, {"start": "00:28:09", "end": "00:28:13", "text": "and he faces the other man that he's"}, {"start": "00:28:11", "end": "00:28:15", "text": "with and they kind of just lock eyes for"}, {"start": "00:28:13", "end": "00:28:17", "text": "a moment and they have this connection"}, {"start": "00:28:15", "end": "00:28:20", "text": "where it's like, you know, you heard it"}, {"start": "00:28:17", "end": "00:28:22", "text": "too, right? Like, I'm not crazy. And he"}, {"start": "00:28:20", "end": "00:28:25", "text": "just pretty much says, you know, what"}, {"start": "00:28:22", "end": "00:28:27", "text": "the heck was that? But because they"}, {"start": "00:28:25", "end": "00:28:29", "text": "don't have binoculars, they can't really"}, {"start": "00:28:27", "end": "00:28:31", "text": "just, you know, look out and find the"}, {"start": "00:28:29", "end": "00:28:33", "text": "definitive source of this noise. They"}, {"start": "00:28:31", "end": "00:28:35", "text": "just keep looking off over in that"}, {"start": "00:28:33", "end": "00:28:37", "text": "direction hoping that someone or"}, {"start": "00:28:35", "end": "00:28:39", "text": "something, you know, the source of this"}, {"start": "00:28:37", "end": "00:28:41", "text": "noise will show itself, but that doesn't"}, {"start": "00:28:39", "end": "00:28:42", "text": "happen. And so, as they're sitting"}, {"start": "00:28:41", "end": "00:28:44", "text": "there, you know, they start to"}, {"start": "00:28:42", "end": "00:28:46", "text": "continuously scan the woods and the"}, {"start": "00:28:44", "end": "00:28:48", "text": "shoreline more and more. And, you know,"}, {"start": "00:28:46", "end": "00:28:50", "text": "they're like, \"Listen, you know, maybe"}, {"start": "00:28:48", "end": "00:28:52", "text": "maybe the sound will happen again cuz"}, {"start": "00:28:50", "end": "00:28:54", "text": "they want to figure out what this is.\""}, {"start": "00:28:52", "end": "00:28:56", "text": "And the fisherman, you know, he's going"}, {"start": "00:28:54", "end": "00:28:58", "text": "through every single animal that he"}, {"start": "00:28:56", "end": "00:29:00", "text": "knows in his head or, you know, what it"}, {"start": "00:28:58", "end": "00:29:02", "text": "could possibly be. After a few more"}, {"start": "00:29:00", "end": "00:29:04", "text": "moments, the sound does not come back."}, {"start": "00:29:02", "end": "00:29:06", "text": "And they're both pretty unnerved by"}, {"start": "00:29:04", "end": "00:29:08", "text": "this. And so, you know, they just decide"}, {"start": "00:29:06", "end": "00:29:10", "text": "right then and there that they're pretty"}, {"start": "00:29:08", "end": "00:29:11", "text": "much done for the day. And so, without"}, {"start": "00:29:10", "end": "00:29:14", "text": "really saying anything, they kind of"}, {"start": "00:29:11", "end": "00:29:15", "text": "just paddle back to the shoreline. You"}, {"start": "00:29:14", "end": "00:29:17", "text": "know, they get out of the water, they"}, {"start": "00:29:15", "end": "00:29:18", "text": "pick up the canoe, they put it back on"}, {"start": "00:29:17", "end": "00:29:21", "text": "the jeep, and they kind of just drive"}, {"start": "00:29:18", "end": "00:29:24", "text": "away. What's interesting is that over"}, {"start": "00:29:21", "end": "00:29:27", "text": "the years since then, that experience"}, {"start": "00:29:24", "end": "00:29:29", "text": "just this guy could not just let it go."}, {"start": "00:29:27", "end": "00:29:32", "text": "And in his own personal quest to find"}, {"start": "00:29:29", "end": "00:29:33", "text": "out, you know, was that a train? Was"}, {"start": "00:29:32", "end": "00:29:36", "text": "that some sort of vehicle? Was that an"}, {"start": "00:29:33", "end": "00:29:38", "text": "animal? He wasn't sure. He went on this"}, {"start": "00:29:36", "end": "00:29:40", "text": "hunt on different forms and, you know,"}, {"start": "00:29:38", "end": "00:29:42", "text": "in YouTube to try and track down where"}, {"start": "00:29:40", "end": "00:29:44", "text": "he could hear a similar sound or, you"}, {"start": "00:29:42", "end": "00:29:46", "text": "know, maybe he was crazy that maybe, you"}, {"start": "00:29:44", "end": "00:29:48", "text": "know, it was actually there was a"}, {"start": "00:29:46", "end": "00:29:50", "text": "verifiable source for the noise and he'd"}, {"start": "00:29:48", "end": "00:29:52", "text": "be like, \"Ah, that's what it was"}, {"start": "00:29:50", "end": "00:29:54", "text": "finally. Okay, I've been wondering for"}, {"start": "00:29:52", "end": "00:29:56", "text": "years.\" And you know, he'd stumbled upon"}, {"start": "00:29:54", "end": "00:29:57", "text": "a few different audio clips where he's"}, {"start": "00:29:56", "end": "00:29:59", "text": "like, \"Oh, you know, that that might be"}, {"start": "00:29:57", "end": "00:30:02", "text": "it or it might be this animal or oh,"}, {"start": "00:29:59", "end": "00:30:03", "text": "like maybe there was a a train station"}, {"start": "00:30:02", "end": "00:30:05", "text": "or something nearby that that we were"}, {"start": "00:30:03", "end": "00:30:08", "text": "just hearing that and the distance, you"}, {"start": "00:30:05", "end": "00:30:10", "text": "know, just distorted it.\" To this day,"}, {"start": "00:30:08", "end": "00:30:12", "text": "he has still not found the actual source"}, {"start": "00:30:10", "end": "00:30:14", "text": "of that noise. He still lives in the"}, {"start": "00:30:12", "end": "00:30:16", "text": "same place. He still goes back to that"}, {"start": "00:30:14", "end": "00:30:19", "text": "lake and he still fishes, although he's"}, {"start": "00:30:16", "end": "00:30:21", "text": "a little bit unnerved now. And there's a"}, {"start": "00:30:19", "end": "00:30:24", "text": "lot of speculation that what he had"}, {"start": "00:30:21", "end": "00:30:26", "text": "actually heard was a Bigfoot due to the"}, {"start": "00:30:24", "end": "00:30:28", "text": "area and all the similarities between"}, {"start": "00:30:26", "end": "00:30:31", "text": "the sounds they make and their screams"}, {"start": "00:30:28", "end": "00:30:32", "text": "versus what he heard. But unfortunately,"}, {"start": "00:30:31", "end": "00:30:36", "text": "he didn't have any way to record it when"}, {"start": "00:30:32", "end": "00:30:39", "text": "it happened. 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[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "During the Vietnam War, many soldiers"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "came back with stories that defied"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "explanation. Many of them were never"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "allowed to share what they witnessed. In"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "this episode, I'm sharing with you three"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "true accounts of soldiers who"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "encountered the strange, bizarre, and"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "dare I say, supernatural. You won't want"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "to miss this one."}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "In late 1966, a young drafted American"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "soldier named Thomas was serving in"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "Vietnam, thousands of miles from home"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "right in the middle of the war. Now,"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "Thomas had not chosen to be there. He"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "had been drafted, sent overseas, and"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "like a lot of other soldiers, he was"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "very young, and he had to learn pretty"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "quickly how to function in a place where"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "normal life had been replaced by"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "helicopters and weapons and heat and"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "noise and people yelling orders. And"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "over this time, he found his place as a"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "door gunner, which meant that he was one"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "of these soldiers on a helicopter whose"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "job was to fire out from the aircraft"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "during missions. By late that year,"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "Thomas was already spending a ton of"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "time around one particular landing zone"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "near the Vietnam DMZ. And his life there"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "had this really strange rhythm to it. I"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "mean, one minute nothing would be"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "happening. He'd be waiting around doing"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "chores, killing time, sitting there with"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "the other guys, and suddenly out of"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "nowhere, there would be an order and the"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "copters would start up and everybody"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "would be moving. Now, because Thomas was"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "so young and you know, because even in a"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "war, there were long stretches where"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "nothing really happened, boredom could"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "start to make a bad idea feel kind of"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "reasonable. And it was during one of"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "these stretches, Thomas and some of the"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "other gunners on his crew started"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "talking about something they had seen"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "another gunship crew do with their"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "ammunition. Okay, so normally when a"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "door gunner fired his machine gun, the"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "ammunition belt was made up of regular"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "rounds, but every so often there would"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "be a tracer round mixed in. A tracer"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "round is a round that lights up as it"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "flies, so the gunner can actually see"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "where his bullets are going. Now, under"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "normal circumstances, the tracer rounds"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "are evenly spaced out through the belt."}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "So when the gunner fires, he sees little"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "streaks of light mixed in with all the"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "other rounds, and he could adjust his"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "aim based on that. But this other"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "gunship crew that Thomas had seen had"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "done something completely different."}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "They had taken the tracers out and"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "grouped a bunch of them together in one"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "section of the belt. And when they"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "fired, it did not look like normal"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "gunfire. It looked like a solid stream"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "of light pouring out of a helicopter,"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "like the helicopter had become this kind"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "of fireb breathing dragon. And so Thomas"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "and the others had seen it and thought"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "that it looked incredible. Now, to some"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "level, Thomas knew that they probably"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "weren't supposed to be doing this"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "because this is not how ammunition was"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "meant to be loaded. And if the wrong"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "officer saw them messing around with"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "their ammo, they could get in huge"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "trouble. And so Thomas, you know, really"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "spent a lot of time just trying to"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "justify it to himself. I mean, if it"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "looked that intense, then maybe it would"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "look pretty intimidating to enemy"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "soldiers on the ground. So in his mind,"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "he's like, \"You know what? This looks"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "cool and maybe it might actually help.\""}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "And so before long, the idea went from"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "something that they were just talking"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "about to something they were doing. They"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "got one of the linked ammunition belts"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "out in front of them, and they began"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "working through it, pulling the tracer"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "rounds out of their normal pattern and"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "bunching them together. And there was"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "something kind of absurd about it"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "because here they were in an active war"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "zone sitting around during downtime"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "turning live ammo into a visual stunt."}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "For a few seconds at least, it would"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "look like a continuous ribbon of fire"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "coming out of the helicopter. Now, later"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "that same day, Thomas and his crew got"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "orders to head out on a recon mission."}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "So, whatever downtime they had been was"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "immediately over. The crew got"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "themselves ready. The helicopter lifted"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "off and before long they were flying"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "toward the area they had been assigned"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "to check out. And as they came in"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "closer, Thomas could see the landing"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "zone below them. It was a mostly flat"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "open area that was covered in waist high"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "grass. From up in the copter, though, it"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "did not look unusual. It was just a"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "broad patch of grass where they were"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "going to go down. But because this was"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "Vietnam and enemy soldiers could be"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "hidden just about anywhere, Thomas and"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "other gunners were watching the ground"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "very closely as they approached and they"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "were looking for spots where somebody"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "could be hiding or where an ambush could"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "come from or where they needed to put"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "some suppressing fire before the"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "aircraft actually touched down. Now, the"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "altered ammunition was still just this"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "thing they expected to look impressive."}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "Even though they had seen another crew"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "do it, they wanted to see it for"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "themselves. And as the helicopter began"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "coming down toward the landing zone,"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "Thomas was about to give the chance."}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "Now, as it came in, Thomas and the other"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "gunners opened fired. And immediately,"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "the grouped tracer rounds worked exactly"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "the way they had hoped they would."}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "Instead of scattered little streaks of"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "light, these solid bright streams shot"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "out from the helicopter and cut across"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "the landing zone. And it really did look"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "like it was breathing fire. And for just"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "a second, Thomas was stoked because it"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "had worked. It looked exactly like the"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "way they thought it would. And in one"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "quick moment before everything changed,"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "it probably felt like they had pulled"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "off this clever trick and that nothing"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "bad had happened. But then the"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "helicopters touched down and almost"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "immediately the landing zone erupted."}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "There was enemy fire coming at them. And"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "there was shouting all over the place"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "and rounds were whizzing past and"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "soldiers were moving through the field"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "stumbling and the calm open patch of"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "grass that Thomas had seen from the air"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "suddenly became this loud, chaotic,"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "dangerous war zone. Everything was"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "happening all at once. But then, as all"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "of this was happening, Thomas began to"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "notice something else. The grass in the"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "landing zone wasn't just tall, but it"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "was unusually dried out and sunbaked."}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "And the tracer rounds, the ones that"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "looked like these bright streams of"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "light, they were hitting the ground and"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "igniting little fires in the grass. At"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "first, it was small spots, you know,"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "like a patch here and there. But pretty"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "soon, there were fires popping up all"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "over. And so now, on top of the enemy"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "fire and the rotor noise and the"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "shouting, there was smoke starting to"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "drift through the field and flames"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "beginning to break up the train around"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "them. Now Thomas understood probably"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "very quickly that the thing they had"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "done for fun, the thing that had made"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "him happy was now creating a whole new"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "issue. And over the intercom, Thomas had"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "heard that another helicopter that was"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "traveling behind them had gone down with"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "a main rotor problem. And that was"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "already bad enough. A helicopter sitting"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "disabled in the middle of a hot landing"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "zone was in serious danger. But what"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "made it worse was that the fires Thomas"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "and the other gunners had helped start"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "with those group tracers were now"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "spreading toward that downed helicopter."}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "So Thomas's captain ordered him to grab"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "the fire bottle and get down into the"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "landing zone just to see if he could"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "help. The fire bottle was basically the"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "fire extinguisher they had on the"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "aircraft. And as soon as Thomas heard"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "the order, he didn't hesitate. In his"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "mind, this wasn't that complicated. You"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "know, there was another crew out there."}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "Their helicopter was down. flames from"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "moving quickly and Thomas felt at least"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "partly responsible. So the only thing to"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "do was to go grab the fire bottle and"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "go. And so he grabbed it and he ran. But"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "in that rush, in that narrow tunnel of"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "urgency where all he was thinking about"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "was the fire and the downed helicopter"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "and getting there as fast as he could,"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "he forgot one very important thing. He"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "forgot his rifle. Now, it didn't"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "register with them immediately because"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "he was not calmly checking his gear and"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "he was not making a careful tactical"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "decision. He was just reacting. And so"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "now he's running across the burning"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "field unarmed with a fire extinguisher"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "and there's bullets ripping overhead and"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "the air is full of smoke and rotor wash"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "and the grass was burning and all these"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "scattered patches around him. And as he"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "ran, at one point, the incoming fire got"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "so bad that Thomas dropped down onto his"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "chest, pressed himself against the"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "ground because the rounds were passing"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "right over him. Then he got back up and"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "he kept going toward the downed"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "helicopter. In that moment, his entire"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "world narrowed down to just getting"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "there. He wasn't thinking about the fact"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "that he didn't have his rifle or what he"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "was going to do when he got there. He"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "was just trying to get there and put the"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "fire out. And so he finally reached the"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "down helicopter. But when he got there,"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "the crew chief was already waving him"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "off. And it took Thomas a second to"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "really understand what was happening"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "because he had just risked his life"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "crossing the landing zone. But the crew"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "chief was telling him they did not need"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "him. The rotor problem was fixed. They"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "had managed to get the helicopter"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "working again on their own and they were"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "ready to leave. And so now in desperate"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "need to get back to his own, he turned"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "to head back. The landing zone no longer"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "looked the way it looked when he ran"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "across. There was smoke quickly moving"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "through the field now. There were fires"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "burning in different directions. There"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "were helicopters and rotor noise and"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "gunfire pretty much everywhere. The open"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "field that had seemed so clear when they"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "first came had become this confusing"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "broken up space where Thomas could not"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "tell what was where anymore. And so he"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "looked for his helicopter, but he"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "couldn't find it. And that was"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "terrifying because this was not just a"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "situation where he was confused. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "he was standing in the middle of a"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "landing zone during a firefight, no"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "weapon, and having no idea where he was"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "supposed to go. So, he squinted his eyes"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "and, you know, he's scanning the smoke."}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "He's trying to pick out something"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "familiar, but every direction had noise"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "coming from it. Every direction there"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "was smoke or flames or people running"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "and screaming. And the longer he stood"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "there, the more he realized he was"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "exposed. Now, from behind him, he"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "suddenly heard a voice shout out, \"Dung"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "Lee.\" And then he turned around and"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "about 40 ft away from him was a North"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "Vietnamese soldier aiming an AK-47 at"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "him. Dung Lee means stop or halt. But if"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "Thomas had not even understood the"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "words, he understood the rifle. He"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "understood that he was in deep crap. All"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "he could do was drop to his knees, put"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "his hands up, and the soldier began"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "speaking to him, but he could not"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "understand what he was saying. He was"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "kneeling there in the grass, hands"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "raised with the AK pointed at him,"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "trying to figure out what's going to"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "happen next. He's thinking he's about to"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "be taken prisoner. And in his mind, he's"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "trying to prepare for the worst because"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "he's either going to be captured or"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "killed. But then he notices the soldier"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "is starting to back up. And even though"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "he's keeping the AK pointed at Thomas,"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "he just keeps stepping backward and he's"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "putting more and more distance between"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "them. And he knew exactly what that"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "meant. That this was not capture. This"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "was execution. The soldier was backing"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "up to give himself room to create"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "distance to shoot Thomas while Thomas"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "was on his hands and knees. And once"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "Thomas understood that, there was"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "nothing left for him to solve. He could"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "not run. He couldn't fight his way out"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "of this. He just had to accept his fate."}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "And as the soldier continuously backed"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "up, this overwhelming fear and grief"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "came over him because he knew that this"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "was the end of his life. You know, he"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "was having flashbacks to his childhood,"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "his family, everything that he was doing"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "wrong and right in his life. And the"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "acceptance of I'm going to die right"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "here, right now, completely flooded his"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "mind. And so in that moment, he just"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "closed his eyes and he waited for the"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "end to come. Then he heard this loud"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "crack and he flinched because he thought"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "he had just been shot. But right after"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "the crack, he heard this thump and he"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "opened his eyes and he could see the"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "soldier was on his ground. The soldier"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "who had been aiming at him, who was"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "about to execute him, was now dead. For"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "a second, you know, his hands are still"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "up and he's trying to make sense of the"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "situation. He didn't really know what"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "was going on. He was still in the"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "landing zone, but the man who should"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "have killed him was now dead. And then"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "he looked over and saw that there was"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "somebody standing nearby. Or at least"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "that's what he thought. There was a"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "figure there in the landing zone, not"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "far from him. And the first thing he"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "noticed was the size. This man appeared"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "to be like 8 ft tall, enormous, and was"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "wearing what appeared to be like a GI"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "military uniform. So for a split second,"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "Thomas is like, \"Oh, this is another"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "American soldier. Maybe somebody had"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "come out of the smoke and saved him.\""}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "But Thomas was spending more time"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "looking at this figure and realizing"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "that the details are not adding up. The"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "figure's eyes were barely visible"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "beneath the shadow of his helmet. His"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "uniform was spotless. I mean, there was"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "no dirt or grime, sweat, nothing that"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "made sense in the middle of where they"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "were at at the time. And around him,"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "Thomas could see what looked like some"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "kind of glow or an aura. And the figure,"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "whoever they were, was just standing"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "there completely calm. And suddenly"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "Thomas just heard this voice. It's like"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "wherever it came from was just telling"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "him to be calm. Everything's going to be"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "okay. And he knew that it was coming"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "from this person or figure, but their"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "lips did not move. And so he's looking"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "right at him. And the voice is not"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "coming out of his mouth the way a normal"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "voice would. It was like the words were"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "being placed directly into Thomas's"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "mind. And then the figure said, \"Thomas,"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "go back to your bird.\" And again, the"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "lips did not move. But Thomas heard it"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "clearly. Whoever this figure was knew"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "his name. And so he didn't stand there"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "to try to understand it. He didn't ask"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "who this person was. He accepted that he"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "just got a second chance at life. So he"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "got up and he ran. And you know, even"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "through moments earlier, he had been"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "completely turned around. He somehow"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "found his way back through the smoke and"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "fire and through the chaos to get to his"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "helicopter. He climbed aboard. The thing"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "lifted off and as they rose into the"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "air, Thomas looked down at the landing"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "zone and he could see the, you know, the"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "Vietnamese soldiers body still there in"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "the grass, but the towering figure in"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "the spotless uniform was gone. Now,"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "Thomas did not tell people about what"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "happened for decades. And I mean, even"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "years later, he had no idea who or what"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "saved him that day. He doesn't know if"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "it was a guardian angel or an alien or"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "who or what. Unfortunately, it folks"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "remains a mystery. One night in the"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "summer of 1968, at around 2 in the"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "morning, an American soldier named Jay"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "was on watch near the Vietnam DMZ in an"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "area that he and others called the North"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "Country. Jay was part of an American"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "recon team, the kind of unit that later"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "on would basically be called Rangers."}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "And on this night, his team was"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "positioned near the top of one hill and"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "then across this dark gap from them on"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "another hilltop, there was an NVA unit,"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "soldiers from the North Vietnamese army."}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "Now, at this point, both sides knew the"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "other one was there. And this was not"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "one of those situations where one side"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "was secretly hiding and the other side"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "had no idea, but nobody was really doing"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "anything because it was just too dark."}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "Neither side had a clean shot either,"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "and the only real way to take either"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "hill would have been to actually assault"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "up the side of it in the dark, which"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "would have been very dangerous and"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "probably pretty costly. And so, for the"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "moment, this very tense situation had"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "settled into this kind of awful quiet."}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "Now, Jay was just sitting there staring"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "across the gap, and he couldn't really"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "see much other than just blackness. And"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "every once in a while, his eyes would"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "adjust enough that he could make out the"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "outline of the opposite hill, but then"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "the darkness would kind of swallow it"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "again. And so all he could really do was"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "just keep looking and listening and"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "trying not to let his mind drift. But as"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "he sat there looking out at the enemy"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "position, he found himself thinking"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "about the men over there. And even"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "though they were the enemy, he imagined"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "they were probably not all that"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "different from his own men. They were"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "probably exhausted. They were on edge"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "and some were trying to sleep. And most"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "of them probably just wanted the war to"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "be over and wanted to survive long"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "enough to go home and see their"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "families. And while Jay was looking out"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "into the dark, something caught his"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "attention. But whatever caught his"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "attention didn't come from the NVA"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "hilltop. It came from in a completely"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "different direction. Now, he didn't"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "really know what he was seeing at first"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "because it was a light fairly high up in"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "the sky moving through the darkness"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "toward the American position. But what"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "really bothered Jay was the color. It"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "was blue. His brain kept trying to put"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "this into a category that made sense"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "because if it was a flare or a signal of"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "some kind, it would have been orange or"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "red, you know, being dropped or"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "launched. But it just didn't really make"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "sense. and this blue light as he was"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "trying to rationalize it continued to"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "move toward them. Now, he didn't want to"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "overreact, but he also knew that you"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "just don't ignore something strange"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "coming to your position. So, he woke the"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "rest of the team up and he kept it"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "quiet, but he got them up and he pointed"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "out into the dark and basically let"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "everybody see for themselves. And pretty"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "quickly, the rest of the men were doing"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "exactly what Jay had been doing. They"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "were staring up at this strange blue"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "light. Nobody could figure out what it"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "is. And for the next while, Jay and his"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "entire team watched as it just kept"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "getting closer and closer, and it wasn't"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "really streaking across the sky. It was"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "like something was falling and burning"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "out, like just moving through the dark"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "in a very controlled but steady way. And"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "then when it got about a/4 mile from the"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "American camp, it just suddenly stopped."}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "And what's even more bizarre is the"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "object didn't move. It just stayed there"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "for a while. And of course, everyone's"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "looking at it. Nobody has any idea what"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "this is, why it's there, who it's from."}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "Is this an enemy? Is it friendly? They"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "don't know. And so after some time, it"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "then began moving and it was moving"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "closer. Now, of course, Jay and the"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "others were trying to process what to"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "do. They didn't know because if this was"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "some kind of enemy and it was moving in,"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "they would have to take care of"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "business. However, before Jay and his"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "team could come up with an answer, the"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "opposite hillside suddenly erupted and"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "they began to open fire. But almost"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "immediately, Jay realized that they were"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "not firing at Hemour's team, but"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "actually up at this blue object. And"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "they weren't firing like one or two"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "shots here. They were just they were"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "going nuts. They were firing everything"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "they had at this thing, their machine"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "guns, their rifles, everything just"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "firing away. So, as you can imagine, you"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "know, the Americans were in a very"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "strange position here where the enemy is"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "firing like crazy, but not at them. And"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "still, they immediately got low, though,"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "because all those rounds were going up"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "into the air. And obviously, stray"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "rounds could come back down anywhere."}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "And so, Jay and his team were now"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "pressed down into cover, watching the"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "opposite hill flash over and over again"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "with muzzle flares. And as the Americans"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "are looking up at the object, they"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "notice something even more horrifying."}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "That it didn't really seem like the"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "rounds were hitting it. And if they"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "were, it wasn't affecting it because the"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "object did not react. It didn't really"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "do much of anything. And so this went on"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "for several moments. You know, nobody"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "was really sure what to do or how to"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:04", "text": "proceed. And all of a sudden, this blue"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "object just emitted a bright light, like"}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "a blinding light, like a high beam, and"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "it shot straight down into the NVA"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "hilltop. And the instant that beam"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "landed, the firing stopped. You know,"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "for the Americans, they were like, \"Oh"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "my gosh, like what's going on?\" They"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:22", "text": "were thinking that maybe the NVA were"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "reloading. Maybe their weapons had all"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "somehow jammed or that the object had"}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "done something to their guns, but nobody"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "really knew in the moment. And as"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "they're wondering what's happening,"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "what's about to happen? What is this"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "object? The object suddenly disappeared."}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "And after that, Jay and his entire team"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "stayed awake and they watched the sky"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "and the opposite hillside because they"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:47", "text": "really had no idea what was going to"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "happen. You know, was the NVA in belief"}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "that this blue object was American? But"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:55", "text": "the rest of the night, the NVA hilltop"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "was completely silent. So, they really"}, {"start": "00:20:55", "end": "00:21:00", "text": "didn't do much else. When the morning"}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "came and the sun came up, Jay looked"}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "across the gap toward the NVA position"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "and his stomach kind of sank because he"}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:09", "text": "realized something was really wrong."}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:11", "text": "Now, before sunset the night before,"}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:13", "text": "that enemy hill had been very active."}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "There was men moving around. There had"}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "clearly been life over there, but there"}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:20", "text": "was no movement. There was nobody"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "walking around. There was nobody"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "repositioning. No one preparing"}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:26", "text": "anything. It was perfectly still. And"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:28", "text": "the first explanation that made sense"}, {"start": "00:21:26", "end": "00:21:31", "text": "was that, you know, maybe because of"}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "this object, the NVA had just abandoned"}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "the position. Maybe after whatever that"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "blue light was, they left. And even more"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "so because an empty enemy camp can make"}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:43", "text": "a great ambush. So Jay's recon team"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "prepared to cross over and check the"}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:48", "text": "position. But they did it very"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:50", "text": "carefully, expecting that this was going"}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "to be an ambush. So they didn't just"}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "stand up and walk over there. They did"}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:57", "text": "this very carefully. They moved like men"}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "who understood that the other hill could"}, {"start": "00:21:57", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "still be full and they watched for any"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:05", "text": "movement. They scanned the terrain. They"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:07", "text": "treated this silence like this was bait,"}, {"start": "00:22:05", "end": "00:22:09", "text": "that they were going to ambush the"}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "ambusher. But the closer they got, there"}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "was no movement. Now, eventually Jay and"}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "the rest of the team reached the top of"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "the NVA hill and the camp was still"}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:20", "text": "there. All the equipment was there, the"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "weapons, the gear, right? All of it. But"}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "as they began to kind of scour around"}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "the camp, there was no sign of anybody"}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "there. There was no bodies, no clothing,"}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:31", "text": "no blood. You know, at first it felt"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:33", "text": "really weird because the only"}, {"start": "00:22:31", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "explanation that the Americans could"}, {"start": "00:22:33", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "really put on it was that the NVA must"}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:39", "text": "have just slipped away during the night."}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:41", "text": "You know, maybe they had taken their"}, {"start": "00:22:39", "end": "00:22:43", "text": "wounded or dead with them and they had"}, {"start": "00:22:41", "end": "00:22:45", "text": "fled in such a hurry and fear of"}, {"start": "00:22:43", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "whatever this thing was that they just"}, {"start": "00:22:45", "end": "00:22:50", "text": "left everything. But that didn't really"}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "make sense because soldiers do not"}, {"start": "00:22:50", "end": "00:22:55", "text": "normally just abandon useful equipment"}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:57", "text": "in war. Nor do they certainly leave"}, {"start": "00:22:55", "end": "00:23:00", "text": "behind everything and disappear without"}, {"start": "00:22:57", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "leaving any sign of of a fight or a"}, {"start": "00:23:00", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "casualty or blood or anything. It was"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "literally like the camp had been"}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "occupied one minute and then just empty"}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:09", "text": "the next. And so as Jay and his team are"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:11", "text": "investigating this and they're trying"}, {"start": "00:23:09", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "to, you know, find an answer, somebody"}, {"start": "00:23:11", "end": "00:23:16", "text": "called out. And so Jay turned in"}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "response and he moved toward where this"}, {"start": "00:23:16", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "person was standing. And when he got"}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:21", "text": "there, his mouth kind of just dropped"}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "and his eyes, you know, they just kind"}, {"start": "00:23:21", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "of popped open because on the ground was"}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:29", "text": "this hot pile and there was steam coming"}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:32", "text": "off of it. It turns out that what he was"}, {"start": "00:23:29", "end": "00:23:35", "text": "looking at was what remained of the 12.7"}, {"start": "00:23:32", "end": "00:23:37", "text": "mm heavy machine gun that the NVA had"}, {"start": "00:23:35", "end": "00:23:39", "text": "been firing the night before. But now"}, {"start": "00:23:37", "end": "00:23:41", "text": "they did not look like weapons that had"}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:44", "text": "been blown to smitherines, nor were they"}, {"start": "00:23:41", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "shattered. They were actually melted."}, {"start": "00:23:44", "end": "00:23:48", "text": "The metal was warped and sagging, and"}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:52", "text": "parts of it had gone soft and drooped"}, {"start": "00:23:48", "end": "00:23:54", "text": "down. This looked less like steel and"}, {"start": "00:23:52", "end": "00:23:56", "text": "more like wax that had been held too"}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:23:58", "text": "close to a flame. Now, obviously, Jay"}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "and his team had no possible way to"}, {"start": "00:23:58", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "explain this because they weren't"}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:04", "text": "exactly connecting the blue object to"}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:07", "text": "this, you know, the cause and effect."}, {"start": "00:24:04", "end": "00:24:09", "text": "They were just like, \"What is going on?\""}, {"start": "00:24:07", "end": "00:24:12", "text": "And then they realized something else"}, {"start": "00:24:09", "end": "00:24:15", "text": "that all over the ground scatter across"}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:17", "text": "the NVA position, there were black"}, {"start": "00:24:15", "end": "00:24:19", "text": "patches. Now, initially, they looked"}, {"start": "00:24:17", "end": "00:24:21", "text": "like just burn marks or debris or, you"}, {"start": "00:24:19", "end": "00:24:24", "text": "know, maybe piles of ash from something"}, {"start": "00:24:21", "end": "00:24:26", "text": "that caught fire. And because the whole"}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "camp already felt so strange, it would"}, {"start": "00:24:26", "end": "00:24:31", "text": "have been really easy to just let those"}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:33", "text": "black patches become part of the general"}, {"start": "00:24:31", "end": "00:24:35", "text": "damage and confusion to the scene. And"}, {"start": "00:24:33", "end": "00:24:36", "text": "so Jay and his team began investigating"}, {"start": "00:24:35", "end": "00:24:38", "text": "and they're really looking at these"}, {"start": "00:24:36", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "patches. You know, they'd go to one"}, {"start": "00:24:38", "end": "00:24:43", "text": "patch and the next patch and another and"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:46", "text": "then they thought, \"Oh my god.\" And in"}, {"start": "00:24:43", "end": "00:24:48", "text": "that moment, Jay and his entire team was"}, {"start": "00:24:46", "end": "00:24:50", "text": "just hit with the reality of it that"}, {"start": "00:24:48", "end": "00:24:52", "text": "whatever had happened the night before,"}, {"start": "00:24:50", "end": "00:24:54", "text": "they didn't flee. They weren't shot and"}, {"start": "00:24:52", "end": "00:24:56", "text": "killed. They didn't, you know, try to"}, {"start": "00:24:54", "end": "00:24:58", "text": "abandon their post. Whatever had"}, {"start": "00:24:56", "end": "00:25:02", "text": "happened to them, they were basically,"}, {"start": "00:24:58", "end": "00:25:04", "text": "all of them incinerated. And this pile"}, {"start": "00:25:02", "end": "00:25:06", "text": "of ash, or if you if you even want to"}, {"start": "00:25:04", "end": "00:25:08", "text": "call it, that is all that was left of"}, {"start": "00:25:06", "end": "00:25:11", "text": "the soldiers. Something had shot an"}, {"start": "00:25:08", "end": "00:25:13", "text": "incredible wave of heat at them and"}, {"start": "00:25:11", "end": "00:25:15", "text": "basically incinerated them instantly."}, {"start": "00:25:13", "end": "00:25:17", "text": "And as you can imagine, their minds were"}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:19", "text": "blown. There really wasn't much they"}, {"start": "00:25:17", "end": "00:25:21", "text": "could do because I mean, how do you"}, {"start": "00:25:19", "end": "00:25:22", "text": "process that? Like, what what are you"}, {"start": "00:25:21", "end": "00:25:24", "text": "going to tell your superiors? I mean,"}, {"start": "00:25:22", "end": "00:25:27", "text": "here in front of them, they have"}, {"start": "00:25:24", "end": "00:25:29", "text": "physical evidence of melted weapons in"}, {"start": "00:25:27", "end": "00:25:32", "text": "the absence of blood and bodies. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:25:29", "end": "00:25:34", "text": "there are piles of ash where men once"}, {"start": "00:25:32", "end": "00:25:37", "text": "stood. Now, a soldier on Jay's team"}, {"start": "00:25:34", "end": "00:25:40", "text": "named Walter seemed to understand very"}, {"start": "00:25:37", "end": "00:25:42", "text": "quickly that whatever this was, it"}, {"start": "00:25:40", "end": "00:25:44", "text": "needed to be thoroughly documented. So,"}, {"start": "00:25:42", "end": "00:25:46", "text": "he started taking photographs and he"}, {"start": "00:25:44", "end": "00:25:48", "text": "photographed the melted machine guns and"}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:51", "text": "the ash piles and anything on that"}, {"start": "00:25:48", "end": "00:25:53", "text": "hilltop that could possibly help them"}, {"start": "00:25:51", "end": "00:25:55", "text": "find out what this was. And so once the"}, {"start": "00:25:53", "end": "00:25:58", "text": "team left because there was really"}, {"start": "00:25:55", "end": "00:26:00", "text": "nothing left to do, Walter wrote up a"}, {"start": "00:25:58", "end": "00:26:03", "text": "formal report about what the team had"}, {"start": "00:26:00", "end": "00:26:05", "text": "seen and he included all the photographs"}, {"start": "00:26:03", "end": "00:26:08", "text": "with it. And when the unit returned to"}, {"start": "00:26:05", "end": "00:26:10", "text": "base, he filed the report and the photos"}, {"start": "00:26:08", "end": "00:26:13", "text": "with the authorities. In a bizarre turn"}, {"start": "00:26:10", "end": "00:26:15", "text": "of events, Walter did not return. And it"}, {"start": "00:26:13", "end": "00:26:17", "text": "got to the point to where others were"}, {"start": "00:26:15", "end": "00:26:19", "text": "asking where he went. But every time"}, {"start": "00:26:17", "end": "00:26:21", "text": "they asked, the answer they got was"}, {"start": "00:26:19", "end": "00:26:23", "text": "simple and that it was that Walter had"}, {"start": "00:26:21", "end": "00:26:25", "text": "been transferred to another unit. That"}, {"start": "00:26:23", "end": "00:26:28", "text": "was it. There was no other details or"}, {"start": "00:26:25", "end": "00:26:30", "text": "explanation or no foring of information."}, {"start": "00:26:28", "end": "00:26:33", "text": "So Jay and the others, they asked about"}, {"start": "00:26:30", "end": "00:26:35", "text": "Walter's report and the photographs, the"}, {"start": "00:26:33", "end": "00:26:37", "text": "very thing that Walter had filed after"}, {"start": "00:26:35", "end": "00:26:40", "text": "documenting all of it. And then they"}, {"start": "00:26:37", "end": "00:26:43", "text": "were told, matterof factly, there was no"}, {"start": "00:26:40", "end": "00:26:47", "text": "report. There were no photographs that"}, {"start": "00:26:43", "end": "00:26:49", "text": "ever existed. And then one by one, each"}, {"start": "00:26:47", "end": "00:26:52", "text": "member of Jay's team was pulled aside"}, {"start": "00:26:49", "end": "00:26:54", "text": "and interviewed separately by high"}, {"start": "00:26:52", "end": "00:26:56", "text": "ranking military personnel. They were"}, {"start": "00:26:54", "end": "00:26:58", "text": "not brought in together as a group to"}, {"start": "00:26:56", "end": "00:27:00", "text": "talk about what happened like some"}, {"start": "00:26:58", "end": "00:27:02", "text": "therapy session. They were separated."}, {"start": "00:27:00", "end": "00:27:04", "text": "They were questioned. Each man on his"}, {"start": "00:27:02", "end": "00:27:06", "text": "own. If they knew it was good for them,"}, {"start": "00:27:04", "end": "00:27:08", "text": "they wouldn't talk about it and that"}, {"start": "00:27:06", "end": "00:27:10", "text": "they would keep their mouths shut. So"}, {"start": "00:27:08", "end": "00:27:11", "text": "obviously after this, Jay and his entire"}, {"start": "00:27:10", "end": "00:27:12", "text": "team stayed silent because they didn't"}, {"start": "00:27:11", "end": "00:27:14", "text": "want anything to happen to them and"}, {"start": "00:27:12", "end": "00:27:17", "text": "their families and they were left with"}, {"start": "00:27:14", "end": "00:27:19", "text": "only what they personally saw, which was"}, {"start": "00:27:17", "end": "00:27:22", "text": "this blue object moving through the"}, {"start": "00:27:19", "end": "00:27:24", "text": "dark, the NVA firing everything they had"}, {"start": "00:27:22", "end": "00:27:26", "text": "at it, the beam dropping down into the"}, {"start": "00:27:24", "end": "00:27:29", "text": "hill and instantly silencing the entire"}, {"start": "00:27:26", "end": "00:27:31", "text": "hilltop. Whatever that blue object was,"}, {"start": "00:27:29", "end": "00:27:33", "text": "whatever it did to the men on the"}, {"start": "00:27:31", "end": "00:27:35", "text": "opposite hill, I mean, whatever happened"}, {"start": "00:27:33", "end": "00:27:38", "text": "to Walter and the photographs that never"}, {"start": "00:27:35", "end": "00:27:40", "text": "existed has never been explained. And"}, {"start": "00:27:38", "end": "00:27:43", "text": "even more disturbingly, officially, none"}, {"start": "00:27:40", "end": "00:27:45", "text": "of it exists. And in fact, the only"}, {"start": "00:27:43", "end": "00:27:47", "text": "reason we know about it is because of"}, {"start": "00:27:45", "end": "00:27:50", "text": "researchers like Albert Rosales who are"}, {"start": "00:27:47", "end": "00:27:52", "text": "able to somehow contact these witnesses."}, {"start": "00:27:50", "end": "00:27:55", "text": "And you know what I would assume is that"}, {"start": "00:27:52", "end": "00:27:56", "text": "on their deathbed or through some ways"}, {"start": "00:27:55", "end": "00:27:59", "text": "that I'm not exactly sure is able to"}, {"start": "00:27:56", "end": "00:28:00", "text": "extract this information and bring it to"}, {"start": "00:27:59", "end": "00:28:03", "text": "light to the public and all of us."}, {"start": "00:28:00", "end": "00:28:06", "text": "Unfortunately, whatever Jay and his team"}, {"start": "00:28:03", "end": "00:28:08", "text": "experienced and saw, all of it remains a"}, {"start": "00:28:06", "end": "00:28:10", "text": "mystery."}, {"start": "00:28:08", "end": "00:28:12", "text": "During the Vietnam War, a 20-year-old"}, {"start": "00:28:10", "end": "00:28:15", "text": "sergeant named Craig Thompson was"}, {"start": "00:28:12", "end": "00:28:18", "text": "serving in Benden Province, Vietnam."}, {"start": "00:28:15", "end": "00:28:20", "text": "Craig was from Cordelane, Idaho, and he"}, {"start": "00:28:18", "end": "00:28:23", "text": "was assigned to the company B second"}, {"start": "00:28:20", "end": "00:28:27", "text": "battalion of the 503rd Parachute"}, {"start": "00:28:23", "end": "00:28:30", "text": "Infantry Regiment, which was part of the"}, {"start": "00:28:27", "end": "00:28:32", "text": "173rd Airborne Brigade. Craig was very"}, {"start": "00:28:30", "end": "00:28:33", "text": "young, but he was already in this"}, {"start": "00:28:32", "end": "00:28:36", "text": "position where he had real"}, {"start": "00:28:33", "end": "00:28:38", "text": "responsibility and every day he was"}, {"start": "00:28:36", "end": "00:28:40", "text": "moving around in a place where you had"}, {"start": "00:28:38", "end": "00:28:43", "text": "to assume almost anything around you"}, {"start": "00:28:40", "end": "00:28:45", "text": "could become dangerous quickly. But the"}, {"start": "00:28:43", "end": "00:28:47", "text": "incident that would stay with Craig for"}, {"start": "00:28:45", "end": "00:28:50", "text": "the rest of his life did not begin with"}, {"start": "00:28:47", "end": "00:28:53", "text": "gunfire or an ambush or anything that"}, {"start": "00:28:50", "end": "00:28:56", "text": "would obviously mark it as this terrible"}, {"start": "00:28:53", "end": "00:28:58", "text": "thing. It actually began on the banks of"}, {"start": "00:28:56", "end": "00:29:01", "text": "a river. Craig's platoon was near the"}, {"start": "00:28:58", "end": "00:29:03", "text": "Bong Sun River. And for a little while"}, {"start": "00:29:01", "end": "00:29:05", "text": "that day, nothing around them seemed to"}, {"start": "00:29:03", "end": "00:29:07", "text": "suggest that there was any active"}, {"start": "00:29:05", "end": "00:29:10", "text": "threat. It was just the men, the heat,"}, {"start": "00:29:07", "end": "00:29:12", "text": "and the river right in front of them."}, {"start": "00:29:10", "end": "00:29:14", "text": "And before long, Craig would see"}, {"start": "00:29:12", "end": "00:29:16", "text": "something moving in that river he could"}, {"start": "00:29:14", "end": "00:29:19", "text": "not explain. Because on this particular"}, {"start": "00:29:16", "end": "00:29:22", "text": "day, it was very hot and humid, as a lot"}, {"start": "00:29:19", "end": "00:29:24", "text": "of Vietnam is. And it's the kind of"}, {"start": "00:29:22", "end": "00:29:26", "text": "humid where just you're just wet and the"}, {"start": "00:29:24", "end": "00:29:28", "text": "clothes stick to you and the air feels"}, {"start": "00:29:26", "end": "00:29:30", "text": "heavy, like it's hard to breathe because"}, {"start": "00:29:28", "end": "00:29:32", "text": "there's so much moisture. And after"}, {"start": "00:29:30", "end": "00:29:34", "text": "being in that all day, Craig and the"}, {"start": "00:29:32", "end": "00:29:36", "text": "other men were pretty miserable. And"}, {"start": "00:29:34", "end": "00:29:39", "text": "because there was no active threats"}, {"start": "00:29:36", "end": "00:29:41", "text": "around, they decided to get in the river"}, {"start": "00:29:39", "end": "00:29:44", "text": "to cool off and wash up. Now, for a"}, {"start": "00:29:41", "end": "00:29:46", "text": "short time, that's all this was. It was"}, {"start": "00:29:44", "end": "00:29:47", "text": "nothing more than a break. The men got"}, {"start": "00:29:46", "end": "00:29:49", "text": "into the water. They were rinsing"}, {"start": "00:29:47", "end": "00:29:51", "text": "themselves off and kind of just, you"}, {"start": "00:29:49", "end": "00:29:53", "text": "know, joking around. And as this was"}, {"start": "00:29:51", "end": "00:29:55", "text": "happening, one of the soldiers began to"}, {"start": "00:29:53", "end": "00:29:58", "text": "raise their voice. And it wasn't like"}, {"start": "00:29:55", "end": "00:29:59", "text": "this guy was screaming in terror. It was"}, {"start": "00:29:58", "end": "00:30:01", "text": "more like he had noticed something he"}, {"start": "00:29:59", "end": "00:30:03", "text": "couldn't quite make sense of. And, you"}, {"start": "00:30:01", "end": "00:30:06", "text": "know, he wanted everybody else to look"}, {"start": "00:30:03", "end": "00:30:08", "text": "too. He had spotted something moving in"}, {"start": "00:30:06", "end": "00:30:10", "text": "the water. So Craig and the others"}, {"start": "00:30:08", "end": "00:30:12", "text": "turned and looked where he was looking."}, {"start": "00:30:10", "end": "00:30:14", "text": "And at first they couldn't really see"}, {"start": "00:30:12", "end": "00:30:16", "text": "much. There was just some movement, but"}, {"start": "00:30:14", "end": "00:30:18", "text": "it was just the surface of the river"}, {"start": "00:30:16", "end": "00:30:21", "text": "being disturbed in a way that didn't"}, {"start": "00:30:18", "end": "00:30:22", "text": "match the current. They kept watching"}, {"start": "00:30:21", "end": "00:30:25", "text": "and they could see this dark shape that"}, {"start": "00:30:22", "end": "00:30:26", "text": "was moving and kind of undulating. And"}, {"start": "00:30:25", "end": "00:30:29", "text": "the more they watched it cuz they're"}, {"start": "00:30:26", "end": "00:30:31", "text": "like, \"What is this?\" It was something"}, {"start": "00:30:29", "end": "00:30:34", "text": "in the water clearly. And it was big"}, {"start": "00:30:31", "end": "00:30:36", "text": "enough that it was pushing a wave behind"}, {"start": "00:30:34", "end": "00:30:38", "text": "it for dozens of feet. Now, the surface"}, {"start": "00:30:36", "end": "00:30:40", "text": "of the river was basically parting"}, {"start": "00:30:38", "end": "00:30:43", "text": "around it as it moved. And that wake"}, {"start": "00:30:40", "end": "00:30:45", "text": "kept trailing behind it like something"}, {"start": "00:30:43", "end": "00:30:47", "text": "large was just under the surface. Now,"}, {"start": "00:30:45", "end": "00:30:49", "text": "for a second, you know, their brains"}, {"start": "00:30:47", "end": "00:30:50", "text": "were all trying to catch up to what they"}, {"start": "00:30:49", "end": "00:30:53", "text": "were looking at. Like, you know, is this"}, {"start": "00:30:50", "end": "00:30:54", "text": "a crocodile? Like, what exactly is this?"}, {"start": "00:30:53", "end": "00:30:58", "text": "You know, is this something we need to"}, {"start": "00:30:54", "end": "00:31:00", "text": "worry about? And almost all at once, all"}, {"start": "00:30:58", "end": "00:31:02", "text": "of them had the same realization. This"}, {"start": "00:31:00", "end": "00:31:04", "text": "shape, whatever it was, was not just"}, {"start": "00:31:02", "end": "00:31:06", "text": "casually moving through the river, but"}, {"start": "00:31:04", "end": "00:31:08", "text": "it was moving toward them. They all"}, {"start": "00:31:06", "end": "00:31:10", "text": "began to move backward in the water."}, {"start": "00:31:08", "end": "00:31:12", "text": "They weren't panicking, but they were on"}, {"start": "00:31:10", "end": "00:31:14", "text": "edge, you know, naturally so, and"}, {"start": "00:31:12", "end": "00:31:16", "text": "they're trying to create some distance"}, {"start": "00:31:14", "end": "00:31:17", "text": "because they don't know what it is. And"}, {"start": "00:31:16", "end": "00:31:19", "text": "Craig backed up, too. You know, he's"}, {"start": "00:31:17", "end": "00:31:21", "text": "very curious, but he's not totally"}, {"start": "00:31:19", "end": "00:31:24", "text": "gripped by fear yet. And as all of them"}, {"start": "00:31:21", "end": "00:31:27", "text": "are watching, this shape gets closer,"}, {"start": "00:31:24", "end": "00:31:29", "text": "and they begin to notice that, well,"}, {"start": "00:31:27", "end": "00:31:33", "text": "there's a body. And they can see that"}, {"start": "00:31:29", "end": "00:31:36", "text": "the body is enormous, 30 feet, maybe"}, {"start": "00:31:33", "end": "00:31:38", "text": "more. And it was 1 or 2 feet across. And"}, {"start": "00:31:36", "end": "00:31:41", "text": "as it moved, it didn't move like any"}, {"start": "00:31:38", "end": "00:31:43", "text": "animal they've ever seen. It kind of had"}, {"start": "00:31:41", "end": "00:31:45", "text": "this side to side motion, you know, kind"}, {"start": "00:31:43", "end": "00:31:47", "text": "of like I was saying, it was undulating"}, {"start": "00:31:45", "end": "00:31:48", "text": "kind of like a giant snake gliding"}, {"start": "00:31:47", "end": "00:31:51", "text": "through the water. But even as that"}, {"start": "00:31:48", "end": "00:31:53", "text": "comparison came to Craig's mind, he"}, {"start": "00:31:51", "end": "00:31:55", "text": "didn't think it was a snake because he"}, {"start": "00:31:53", "end": "00:31:57", "text": "had never heard of a snake that was"}, {"start": "00:31:55", "end": "00:31:59", "text": "anywhere close to that size. And later"}, {"start": "00:31:57", "end": "00:32:01", "text": "when he would go over this moment again"}, {"start": "00:31:59", "end": "00:32:03", "text": "and again in his head, he was just as"}, {"start": "00:32:01", "end": "00:32:06", "text": "sure that it was not a crocodile. There"}, {"start": "00:32:03", "end": "00:32:08", "text": "was a particular spot along the river"}, {"start": "00:32:06", "end": "00:32:09", "text": "that it got to right as you know where"}, {"start": "00:32:08", "end": "00:32:11", "text": "the sunlight came through and it kind of"}, {"start": "00:32:09", "end": "00:32:13", "text": "glistened off its body. They could see"}, {"start": "00:32:11", "end": "00:32:15", "text": "that it was covered in bright golden"}, {"start": "00:32:13", "end": "00:32:18", "text": "scales. It wasn't dark or muddy or hard"}, {"start": "00:32:15", "end": "00:32:20", "text": "to make out, but bright golden scales"}, {"start": "00:32:18", "end": "00:32:23", "text": "that caught the light as this huge body"}, {"start": "00:32:20", "end": "00:32:26", "text": "kind of slid along the river. And then"}, {"start": "00:32:23", "end": "00:32:28", "text": "Craig saw the head. It was huge and"}, {"start": "00:32:26", "end": "00:32:30", "text": "square and kind of sitting up on top of"}, {"start": "00:32:28", "end": "00:32:32", "text": "it cutting above the surface of the"}, {"start": "00:32:30", "end": "00:32:35", "text": "water and there was this kind of tall"}, {"start": "00:32:32", "end": "00:32:37", "text": "dark red plume or like a crestlike fin"}, {"start": "00:32:35", "end": "00:32:39", "text": "and that thing was a dark red shape"}, {"start": "00:32:37", "end": "00:32:42", "text": "sticking above the water. This was"}, {"start": "00:32:39", "end": "00:32:44", "text": "clearly unlike anything that any of them"}, {"start": "00:32:42", "end": "00:32:45", "text": "had ever seen before. Now for a moment"}, {"start": "00:32:44", "end": "00:32:48", "text": "it looked like it was simply going to"}, {"start": "00:32:45", "end": "00:32:50", "text": "continue on its path down river and past"}, {"start": "00:32:48", "end": "00:32:52", "text": "them. You know, they would see the dark"}, {"start": "00:32:50", "end": "00:32:54", "text": "red crest that kept cutting through the"}, {"start": "00:32:52", "end": "00:32:56", "text": "surface and the body just continued to"}, {"start": "00:32:54", "end": "00:32:58", "text": "undulate and move and men were still"}, {"start": "00:32:56", "end": "00:33:00", "text": "backing away. They were trying to decide"}, {"start": "00:32:58", "end": "00:33:03", "text": "what they were supposed to do. But then"}, {"start": "00:33:00", "end": "00:33:05", "text": "the crest shifted and the creature"}, {"start": "00:33:03", "end": "00:33:07", "text": "pivoted directly toward them. Now, that"}, {"start": "00:33:05", "end": "00:33:09", "text": "was the moment they realized that they"}, {"start": "00:33:07", "end": "00:33:11", "text": "were in deep crap because now this thing"}, {"start": "00:33:09", "end": "00:33:15", "text": "was no longer just some large animal to"}, {"start": "00:33:11", "end": "00:33:17", "text": "go over in the water. It was now pointed"}, {"start": "00:33:15", "end": "00:33:20", "text": "at them and it was clearly coming at"}, {"start": "00:33:17", "end": "00:33:21", "text": "them which meant danger. So men began"}, {"start": "00:33:20", "end": "00:33:23", "text": "yelling to get out of the water. Craig"}, {"start": "00:33:21", "end": "00:33:25", "text": "and the others, they started scrambling"}, {"start": "00:33:23", "end": "00:33:26", "text": "for the riverbank and they're kicking"}, {"start": "00:33:25", "end": "00:33:29", "text": "and splashing and trying to get out as"}, {"start": "00:33:26", "end": "00:33:30", "text": "quickly as they can. And some of the men"}, {"start": "00:33:29", "end": "00:33:32", "text": "are going for their weapons. They are"}, {"start": "00:33:30", "end": "00:33:35", "text": "preparing to fire at whatever this"}, {"start": "00:33:32", "end": "00:33:38", "text": "animal is that just kept coming all"}, {"start": "00:33:35", "end": "00:33:40", "text": "because some literal 30foot golden"}, {"start": "00:33:38", "end": "00:33:42", "text": "creature with a red crest has just"}, {"start": "00:33:40", "end": "00:33:45", "text": "turned toward them. But nobody fired up"}, {"start": "00:33:42", "end": "00:33:47", "text": "a shot and this thing went under the"}, {"start": "00:33:45", "end": "00:33:50", "text": "water. Just disappeared into the"}, {"start": "00:33:47", "end": "00:33:52", "text": "murkiness and you know the water, you"}, {"start": "00:33:50", "end": "00:33:54", "text": "know, closed over it and that was it. So"}, {"start": "00:33:52", "end": "00:33:55", "text": "now they're all panicked thinking, \"Oh"}, {"start": "00:33:54", "end": "00:33:58", "text": "great, now it's going to, you know,"}, {"start": "00:33:55", "end": "00:33:59", "text": "strike us.\" But by this point, all the"}, {"start": "00:33:58", "end": "00:34:02", "text": "men were out of the water. They didn't"}, {"start": "00:33:59", "end": "00:34:04", "text": "dare get back in. They didn't see it"}, {"start": "00:34:02", "end": "00:34:07", "text": "again. Now, if it had been a snake, what"}, {"start": "00:34:04", "end": "00:34:08", "text": "kind of snake gets to 30 ft? Obviously,"}, {"start": "00:34:07", "end": "00:34:10", "text": "it doesn't sound anything like a"}, {"start": "00:34:08", "end": "00:34:12", "text": "crocodile. And this wasn't something"}, {"start": "00:34:10", "end": "00:34:14", "text": "that Craig had gotten, you know, some"}, {"start": "00:34:12", "end": "00:34:17", "text": "blurry half second look at a ripple in"}, {"start": "00:34:14", "end": "00:34:19", "text": "the water. He saw this thing for several"}, {"start": "00:34:17", "end": "00:34:21", "text": "moments. He saw all the details, the"}, {"start": "00:34:19", "end": "00:34:23", "text": "color, the body, the head, in addition"}, {"start": "00:34:21", "end": "00:34:26", "text": "to all the other men that were with him."}, {"start": "00:34:23", "end": "00:34:28", "text": "For a long time, this sighting just"}, {"start": "00:34:26", "end": "00:34:31", "text": "remained this really strange thing that"}, {"start": "00:34:28", "end": "00:34:32", "text": "he carried with him from Vietnam. You"}, {"start": "00:34:31", "end": "00:34:34", "text": "know, something that he had seen,"}, {"start": "00:34:32", "end": "00:34:37", "text": "something he knew the others had reacted"}, {"start": "00:34:34", "end": "00:34:39", "text": "to as well, but he couldn't explain it."}, {"start": "00:34:37", "end": "00:34:42", "text": "Now, fast forward a couple decades"}, {"start": "00:34:39", "end": "00:34:44", "text": "later, and he saw something that seemed"}, {"start": "00:34:42", "end": "00:34:46", "text": "to finally answer the question. Now, he"}, {"start": "00:34:44", "end": "00:34:48", "text": "could not clearly remember exactly where"}, {"start": "00:34:46", "end": "00:34:50", "text": "he saw it. Maybe it was in a book, maybe"}, {"start": "00:34:48", "end": "00:34:54", "text": "it was on a nature show, but at some"}, {"start": "00:34:50", "end": "00:34:56", "text": "point, he saw an image of an orfish."}, {"start": "00:34:54", "end": "00:34:58", "text": "Now, that image stopped him because"}, {"start": "00:34:56", "end": "00:35:01", "text": "orfish are real and they can grow"}, {"start": "00:34:58", "end": "00:35:03", "text": "anywhere from 15 to 50 ft long. They"}, {"start": "00:35:01", "end": "00:35:06", "text": "have long bodies. They have a very"}, {"start": "00:35:03", "end": "00:35:08", "text": "distinctive red plume on their head. And"}, {"start": "00:35:06", "end": "00:35:11", "text": "they also have these long armlike"}, {"start": "00:35:08", "end": "00:35:13", "text": "whiskers that trail off. And in some"}, {"start": "00:35:11", "end": "00:35:15", "text": "specimens, their head could be 3 feet"}, {"start": "00:35:13", "end": "00:35:17", "text": "across with mouths lined with rows of"}, {"start": "00:35:15", "end": "00:35:21", "text": "teeth. I mean, just look at this. They"}, {"start": "00:35:17", "end": "00:35:22", "text": "almost look mythical or dragonlike, like"}, {"start": "00:35:21", "end": "00:35:25", "text": "something somebody would have drawn"}, {"start": "00:35:22", "end": "00:35:27", "text": "hundreds of years ago after hearing a"}, {"start": "00:35:25", "end": "00:35:30", "text": "sailor describe a sea serpent. So, when"}, {"start": "00:35:27", "end": "00:35:31", "text": "Craig saw an orfish, he just had this"}, {"start": "00:35:30", "end": "00:35:33", "text": "feeling like, \"Wait a minute. Is that"}, {"start": "00:35:31", "end": "00:35:36", "text": "what I saw in Vietnam?\" But I want to be"}, {"start": "00:35:33", "end": "00:35:38", "text": "clear, Craig was not saying that he had"}, {"start": "00:35:36", "end": "00:35:41", "text": "seen every orfish feature in the river."}, {"start": "00:35:38", "end": "00:35:43", "text": "He was not suddenly adding whiskers or"}, {"start": "00:35:41", "end": "00:35:46", "text": "teeth to his memory. What stopped him"}, {"start": "00:35:43", "end": "00:35:49", "text": "was the broad outline seemed to fit. The"}, {"start": "00:35:46", "end": "00:35:52", "text": "length fit. And most importantly, that"}, {"start": "00:35:49", "end": "00:35:54", "text": "red plume on the head seemed to match"}, {"start": "00:35:52", "end": "00:35:56", "text": "the dark red crest that he had seen"}, {"start": "00:35:54", "end": "00:35:57", "text": "cutting above the surface of the Bong"}, {"start": "00:35:56", "end": "00:36:00", "text": "Sun River. For quite a while, he was"}, {"start": "00:35:57", "end": "00:36:02", "text": "like, \"Okay, that's clearly what I saw,"}, {"start": "00:36:00", "end": "00:36:05", "text": "right? Case closed.\" But the first"}, {"start": "00:36:02", "end": "00:36:08", "text": "problem was where Craig had seen the"}, {"start": "00:36:05", "end": "00:36:11", "text": "creature because or fisher in the ocean."}, {"start": "00:36:08", "end": "00:36:13", "text": "He obviously wasn't in the ocean nor had"}, {"start": "00:36:11", "end": "00:36:16", "text": "it washed up on a beach. He had seen it"}, {"start": "00:36:13", "end": "00:36:18", "text": "in the Bong Sun River, which is an"}, {"start": "00:36:16", "end": "00:36:21", "text": "inland freshwater river in Vietnam. Now,"}, {"start": "00:36:18", "end": "00:36:23", "text": "obviously, orish live deep below the"}, {"start": "00:36:21", "end": "00:36:26", "text": "surface of the open ocean, and they are"}, {"start": "00:36:23", "end": "00:36:28", "text": "only rarely observed near the surface at"}, {"start": "00:36:26", "end": "00:36:30", "text": "all. As far as science is aware, they"}, {"start": "00:36:28", "end": "00:36:33", "text": "are not known to enter freshwater"}, {"start": "00:36:30", "end": "00:36:35", "text": "rivers. So, right away there's a major"}, {"start": "00:36:33", "end": "00:36:37", "text": "location problem. Well, and then you"}, {"start": "00:36:35", "end": "00:36:40", "text": "have to look at the golden scales issue"}, {"start": "00:36:37", "end": "00:36:42", "text": "because warfish are generally silver and"}, {"start": "00:36:40", "end": "00:36:44", "text": "blue. That might sound like a small"}, {"start": "00:36:42", "end": "00:36:46", "text": "difference, but in Craig's account, the"}, {"start": "00:36:44", "end": "00:36:48", "text": "golden scales were not just a vague"}, {"start": "00:36:46", "end": "00:36:51", "text": "detail, but they were witnessed by"}, {"start": "00:36:48", "end": "00:36:54", "text": "multiple men for a significant period of"}, {"start": "00:36:51", "end": "00:36:57", "text": "time. And obviously, we have the crest."}, {"start": "00:36:54", "end": "00:36:59", "text": "Now, even though there's a similarity"}, {"start": "00:36:57", "end": "00:37:01", "text": "between orfish and what he saw, the"}, {"start": "00:36:59", "end": "00:37:04", "text": "detail also became an issue because"}, {"start": "00:37:01", "end": "00:37:07", "text": "orfish are not known to travel along the"}, {"start": "00:37:04", "end": "00:37:09", "text": "surface of the water with the high crest"}, {"start": "00:37:07", "end": "00:37:11", "text": "cutting above it the way that Craig"}, {"start": "00:37:09", "end": "00:37:14", "text": "described. So, the thing that made the"}, {"start": "00:37:11", "end": "00:37:16", "text": "orfish explanation so tempting was also"}, {"start": "00:37:14", "end": "00:37:19", "text": "one of the things that broke it. What's"}, {"start": "00:37:16", "end": "00:37:21", "text": "interesting is that Craig's own account"}, {"start": "00:37:19", "end": "00:37:24", "text": "eventually made its way through"}, {"start": "00:37:21", "end": "00:37:27", "text": "cryptozoological circles and reached Dr."}, {"start": "00:37:24", "end": "00:37:29", "text": "Carl Schuker. Now, Schuker is extremely"}, {"start": "00:37:27", "end": "00:37:30", "text": "important because he wasn't just"}, {"start": "00:37:29", "end": "00:37:33", "text": "somebody who called every animal"}, {"start": "00:37:30", "end": "00:37:36", "text": "sighting strange and mysterious. He had"}, {"start": "00:37:33", "end": "00:37:38", "text": "debunked plenty of misidentifications."}, {"start": "00:37:36", "end": "00:37:41", "text": "So, his role is really as a kind of"}, {"start": "00:37:38", "end": "00:37:43", "text": "credibility check. Now, he even doubted"}, {"start": "00:37:41", "end": "00:37:45", "text": "the orfish explanation as well. and he"}, {"start": "00:37:43", "end": "00:37:49", "text": "suggested that maybe what Craig and the"}, {"start": "00:37:45", "end": "00:37:52", "text": "platoon had seen was a kind of mo eel."}, {"start": "00:37:49", "end": "00:37:55", "text": "But mo eels are much smaller than 30 ft"}, {"start": "00:37:52", "end": "00:37:56", "text": "and are not 1 to 2 ft wide and they"}, {"start": "00:37:55", "end": "00:37:58", "text": "don't move down a river with a wake"}, {"start": "00:37:56", "end": "00:38:00", "text": "behind them for dozens of feet. They"}, {"start": "00:37:58", "end": "00:38:02", "text": "also do not have a red dural crest"}, {"start": "00:38:00", "end": "00:38:04", "text": "rising above the water like the one"}, {"start": "00:38:02", "end": "00:38:07", "text": "Craig saw. The other possible"}, {"start": "00:38:04", "end": "00:38:09", "text": "explanation is called a conrant. Now,"}, {"start": "00:38:07", "end": "00:38:12", "text": "this comes from the Vietnam area"}, {"start": "00:38:09", "end": "00:38:15", "text": "folklore, and it's usually described as"}, {"start": "00:38:12", "end": "00:38:18", "text": "a massive aquatic centipede-like"}, {"start": "00:38:15", "end": "00:38:20", "text": "creature with a segmented body and bony"}, {"start": "00:38:18", "end": "00:38:22", "text": "plates. Different people have tried to"}, {"start": "00:38:20", "end": "00:38:24", "text": "explain what that could be if it were"}, {"start": "00:38:22", "end": "00:38:26", "text": "real. I mean, some have suggested that"}, {"start": "00:38:24", "end": "00:38:29", "text": "maybe it was some kind of armored"}, {"start": "00:38:26", "end": "00:38:31", "text": "primitive whale relative, and others"}, {"start": "00:38:29", "end": "00:38:34", "text": "have suggested that maybe it was nothing"}, {"start": "00:38:31", "end": "00:38:36", "text": "more than a giant crustaceian or some"}, {"start": "00:38:34", "end": "00:38:38", "text": "kind of oversized ocean dwelling"}, {"start": "00:38:36", "end": "00:38:41", "text": "invertebrate. But the Conrad is"}, {"start": "00:38:38", "end": "00:38:43", "text": "unproven. So using it to explain Craig's"}, {"start": "00:38:41", "end": "00:38:45", "text": "sighting is really just answering one"}, {"start": "00:38:43", "end": "00:38:48", "text": "unknown with another unknown. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:38:45", "end": "00:38:50", "text": "even if it were real, it is generally"}, {"start": "00:38:48", "end": "00:38:53", "text": "associated again like the orfish with"}, {"start": "00:38:50", "end": "00:38:56", "text": "the ocean, not an inland freshwater"}, {"start": "00:38:53", "end": "00:38:58", "text": "river like the Bong Sun River. Whatever"}, {"start": "00:38:56", "end": "00:39:01", "text": "Craig Thompson and his entire platoon"}, {"start": "00:38:58", "end": "00:39:04", "text": "saw that day in the Bong Sun River"}, {"start": "00:39:01", "end": "00:39:05", "text": "remains a mystery."}, {"start": "00:39:04", "end": "00:39:07", "text": "And because you guys all made it this"}, {"start": "00:39:05", "end": "00:39:10", "text": "far, I want you to all comment down"}, {"start": "00:39:07", "end": "00:39:11", "text": "below vaporized. So that way I know who"}, {"start": "00:39:10", "end": "00:39:13", "text": "made it to the end and who didn't. And"}, {"start": "00:39:11", "end": "00:39:15", "text": "if you guys enjoy storytelling like"}, {"start": "00:39:13", "end": "00:39:16", "text": "this, where we deep dive into strange"}, {"start": "00:39:15", "end": "00:39:19", "text": "cases of the mysterious and"}, {"start": "00:39:16", "end": "00:39:20", "text": "supernatural, what are you waiting for?"}, {"start": "00:39:19", "end": "00:39:22", "text": "Smack that like and subscribe button"}, {"start": "00:39:20", "end": "00:39:24", "text": "right now for more content just like"}, {"start": "00:39:22", "end": "00:39:26", "text": "this. And as always, never forget, I"}, {"start": "00:39:24", "end": "00:39:27", "text": "love you all, keep an open mind, and"}, {"start": "00:39:26", "end": "00:39:30", "text": "I'll see you all in the very next"}, {"start": "00:39:27", "end": "00:39:30", "text": "episode."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "In 1946, a 17-year-old Ecuadorian boy"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "was handed a rope and then told to climb"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "215 feet straight down into a hole in"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "the earth. In this episode, I'm walking"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "you through what he found at the bottom."}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "A library of gold colored books and a 9"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "ft skeleton in a crystal coffin. And"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "most deadly of all, an oath that cost"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "him everyone he ever loved. You won't"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "want to miss this one. One afternoon in"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "1946, a 17-year-old boy named Petronio"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "Harmo Abara was at his home in Ecuador"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "when suddenly his uncle showed up and he"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "told him that he wanted to take him"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "somewhere. Now, Petronio's uncle was not"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "just your typical uncle because over the"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "course of the years, he had somehow"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "earned the trust of the Shore people who"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "were this indigenous tribe that lived on"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "the eastern side of the Andes. They were"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "a very private group. They did not let"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "outsiders in, at least typically, but"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "Petronio's uncle throughout the years of"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "just being around them had somehow"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "gotten in. And so again, his uncle is at"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "Petronio's house and he's telling him"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "that he wants to take him to this"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "special place. But he tells him, he's"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "like, \"Look, before I take you, you have"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "to promise something. You have to swear"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "to me right now that you will never tell"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "a soul about where this place is.\" And"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "so Patronio being 17, you know, and"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "thinking of his uncle as this kind of"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "legend, he's like, \"Oh my gosh, my"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "uncle's offering me to take me somewhere"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "that like no one else is allowed to go,"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "you know.\" So without like really"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "thinking of the implications, he's like,"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "\"Yeah, yeah, I I swear. I promise.\" So"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "his uncle just says, \"Okay.\" And the two"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "of them set off just like that. Now,"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "they traveled to the eastern slopes of"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "the Andes in a specific province called"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "Morirana Santiago. And this is way out"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "in the jungle. And they walked for a"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "really long time. And eventually they"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "came to this one specific spot. But"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "getting out there, it's not exactly"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "close. I mean, they had to come over the"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "top of the Andes and down eastern slopes"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "and what is basically the edge of the"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "Amazon. And once you get past a certain"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "point, the roads kind of just stop. I"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "mean, there's really no road. There's"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "really no trail. There's just thick"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "jungle. Now, Petrono doesn't really know"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "where they are, nor does he know how"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "long they've been going for. Like, it's"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "been, you know, 2 hours, 6 hours. It's"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "so hard to tell. He's just watching his"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "uncle's back and he's trying his best to"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "keep up and he's trusting that his"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "uncle, his most revered uncle in front"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "of him, knows what he's doing. And so"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "when they got there, Petrono, you know,"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "he started looking around and he"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "couldn't really figure out why they were"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "there because there's nothing here. But"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "then his uncle turned to him and he"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "walked over to the spot on the ground"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "and he kind of motioned for him to come"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "over. So Patrono came over and he saw"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "it. It was a hole and it was going"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "straight down into the earth. This"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "wasn't a sloped cave or a tunnel. This"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "was a vertical shaft just dropping"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "straight down. And so he looked down"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "into it and you know he tried his best"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "to see the bottom but he couldn't. It"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "looked like it just went down"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "infinitely. It was just pitch black. Now"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "later on Petronio would learn that this"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "shaft was 215 ft deep straight down with"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "no curves. Now, the caves at the bottom,"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "it was called Quueva de los Taios. And"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "the way the shar normally got down into"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "the cave was that they had to use these"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "kind of handwoven ladders made out of"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "vines and they would just climb down"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "into the dark. But Petrono's uncle"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "didn't have a vine ladder. He just had"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "ropes. And so he tied off the ropes at"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "the top of the shaft and he told his"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "nephew like, \"Okay, we're going down."}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "We're going to start our descent. I'm"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "going to go first.\" And so he did. And"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "Petrono kind of just watched him"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "disappear into the hole and he could"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "hear him climbing down for a little bit."}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "And so then he was gone. And Petrono,"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "you know, he just stood there for a"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "second and he's like, \"Well, I guess I"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "should go in after him, right?\" So he"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "grabbed the rope and he started"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "descending. Now, the weird thing about"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "climbing down a shaft that deep is just"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "how fast the world, you know, stops"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "existing. Now, at first, the daylight is"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "right there. And Petrono could still"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "hear the birds and the wind and"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "everything's fine. But then he keeps"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "going down and not very far down, the"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "sounds around him are gone, and the wind"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "is gone. And then it's just the sound of"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "whatever's around him. His body is"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "pulling against the rope and the rope is"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "creaking because the only thing holding"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "this 17-year-old over 200 f feet of"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "emptiness is the rope. And so as he's"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "descending more and more, he's kind of"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "getting freaked out a little bit in his"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "head because he's like, \"I don't know"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "how far down this is. I don't know where"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "I'm going. I just have to trust that my"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "uncle is leading me somewhere that I'll"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "be safe.\" And he's noticing how much"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "colder the air is coming up down from"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "below. It's the kind of cold that's from"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "a place that has never seen sun. So he"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "keeps looking up to check the circle of"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "daylight above him. And every time he"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "keeps looking up, it just gets smaller"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "and smaller until eventually it's a"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "pinhole, like looking at the moon"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "through the wrong end of a telescope."}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "But he just keeps reassuring himself"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "that everything's okay. His uncle's"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "right below him. His uncle knows what"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "he's doing. All is good. Now, he doesn't"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "know exactly how long it took, but"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "finally, his feet touched the ground,"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "and he was standing in a cave. Now, this"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "cave wasn't just one room, but it opened"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "up into all these different passages"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "going in different directions. He really"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "had no idea which way to go, but his"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "uncle didn't even hesitate. It's like he"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "just knew where to go. And so, he"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "started walking, like he'd been down"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "here before, like a lot. Petrono just"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "followed him. And the two of them walked"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "through these passages in pitch darkness"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "for what felt like hours. The only sound"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "they could hear was, you know, dripping"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "off in the distance and their own"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "footsteps and, you know, their own"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "breathing. There's really nothing down"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "here. Now, the thing about walking"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "through a cave in the dark is that your"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "other senses really start to compensate"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "in weird ways. I mean, his eyes were"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "basically useless. I mean, whatever"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "light his uncle had with him, like a"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "lantern, a torch, whatever it was,"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "really only lit up about 6 ft in front"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "of them. Everything outside of that"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "light bubble was just blackness."}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "Petronio is trying to talk to his uncle"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "to calm his nerves down because he's"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "kind of getting freaked out by the whole"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "experience. He has no idea where they're"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "going, but his uncle's like, \"Hey, we're"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "going to be fine. We just have a little"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "bit further. It actually opens up right"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "up here.\" Now, the other thing that was"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "going on during this time was that"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "Petrono had completely lost track of"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "direction. I mean, when you're down in"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "this kind of environment and it's pitch"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "black and your senses kind of go all"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "whack and the tunnels are curving and"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "branching, you can't really hold up any"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "sort of map. If something had happened"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "to his uncle down here or if his uncle,"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "you know, had a heart attack or tripped"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "and got hurt for any reason and was not"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "able to lead, well, he wasn't getting"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "out. He wasn't ever getting home. And"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "so, because of this, he just got as"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "close to his uncle as possible. And then"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "eventually, they came to a room. And"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "Petronio, he walked in first and he"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "couldn't really process initially what"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "he was looking at because the room was"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "so large. And lining the walls were"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "shelves, but not like wooden shelves or"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "like bookcase shelves. These were"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "actually made of metal. Metal that was"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "yellow, more like the color of gold. And"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "they were full of things that looked"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "like books. We're talking about rows and"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "rows of them. Hundreds, also metal, of"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "the same color. And so the uncle kind of"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "just gestured for Petronio to pick one"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "up. And so he walked over, he reached up"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "and he tried to pull one of these books"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "off the shelf and he immediately"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "realized that this isn't going to come"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "easy. The book is extremely heavy, you"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "know, like 40, 50 lb. And then he's"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "like, \"That's not a book.\" And so he"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "finally manages to get it off the shelf"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "and he's holding it, looking at it, just"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "trying to figure out what it is. And so"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "he opened it and inside the pages"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "weren't empty. They were actually these"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "thin sheets of metal, like foil, but"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "they were more stiff. And on these"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "sheets were symbols and lines and"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "diagrams. I mean, it kind of looked like"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "a geometry textbook, but just the"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "geometric shapes were laid out in these"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "odd rows. Now, Petrono is standing there"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "holding this book and he's trying to"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "categorize it in his mind because he has"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "no idea what he's looking at. I mean, is"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "this gold? Is this writing? Is this"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "supposed to be some library? I mean,"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "none of this even makes sense. You know,"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "he's only 17. And then he looks up and"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "against one of the walls of the room,"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "there was something he hadn't seen when"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "he first came in. It was a coffin. And"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "the coffin was made of crystal. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "pure crystal. Clear enough that he could"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "stand in front of it and he could see"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "that inside was clearly a skeleton. And"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "you he's looking at it and you know his"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "brain doesn't really know what to make"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "of it because the skeleton in the coffin"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "is very strange looking. And as he's"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "looking at it more, the next thing his"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "brain registers is just how long it is."}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "Like it's really really long and it's"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "tall. It is taller and longer than his"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "uncle is. The skeleton laid out in the"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "coffin is well over 9 ft. and it's"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "covered in gold, the same yellow color"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "as the shelves behind him, as the books,"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "the whole skeleton from the school all"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "the way down to the feet. He's in"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "complete astonishment and amazement, and"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "he just turns back to his uncle and he's"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "like, \"What is this place? Why have you"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "brought me here? I mean, like, what what"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "is the meaning?\" And he just explains to"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "his nephew. He's like, \"You know, the"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "shore believe that this cave is home to"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "the spirits of giants.\" Obviously, he"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "doesn't really know how to respond, so"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "he kind of just stood there listening."}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "And somewhere between the golden bones"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "and the rose of crystal, he can kind of"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "just feel his brain go numb because when"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "you try to process something that's so"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "out of the realm of reality, you you"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "kind of just you can't. It just feels"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "impossible. So, as he's working through"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "this internal state of shock, his"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "uncle's like, \"Come on. I there's more I"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "want to show you.\" And so, he led him"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "out of that room into another chamber."}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "Now, in the second chamber, there were"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "thousands of crystal tablets, and they"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "were all stacked up. But at this point,"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "Petrono has sort of lost his ability to"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "be shocked. He's kind of just passing"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "through. And then he had this thought"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "that he needs to prove all of this, that"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "he needs to bring one of these artifacts"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "back as evidence because if he just"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "tells people what he saw, I mean, no"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "one's going to believe a word he has to"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "say. So he walked back over to the"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "shelves and he tried to take one of"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "those books that he was going to carry"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "it with him. I mean, but obviously he"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "couldn't because these were like 50 lbs."}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "I mean, there's no way he's getting one"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "of these up that rope and out of the"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "shaft. I mean, he could barely even lift"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "one off the shelf. So he's like, \"Okay,"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "well, I need to bring something back,"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "but I don't know what.\" And so he's"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "looking around, you know, maybe a sharp"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "piece of rock, maybe a knife. And so he"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "goes back over to the books and he"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "picked out one specific book and he"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "started scratching his initials into the"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "metal. Then J and then A. And it's slow"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "because metal is hard. You know, he's"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "pushing and he's scraping and each"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "letter takes him a little while. But he"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "was successful in getting all three in"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "there. P, J, and A. Petronio Harmo"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "Arbaka. And so he's pretty proud of"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "himself for being able to scratch his"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "initials in because he's like, \"Okay,"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "well, when somebody eventually discovers"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "this cave, they'll see my initials on"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "the book. They'll know that I was here."}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "That's all the proof that I need.\" And"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "so his uncle's like, \"All right, well,"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "you know, we should probably head back.\""}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "And so the two of them climbed back out."}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "And when they got to the surface, the"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "daylight hit Bronio so hard that it"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "actually hurt. I mean, after being in"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "pitch blackness for hours, the sun"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "almost felt violent. Then his uncle"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "turned and just looked right at him. But"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "he didn't just look at him. He kind of"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "held his gaze like he was trying to read"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "Petronio's face. Like I was like he was"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "trying to figure out whether this kid"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "understood what had just happened. Like"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "if he was truly old enough to even hold"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "a secret like that for the rest of his"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "life. And then his uncle said to him,"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "\"Swear to me again, you cannot tell"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "anyone else where this place is ever.\""}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "So Petronio, you know, being a"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "17-year-old kid, full of excitement and"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "just being really young, and he was"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "still kind of coming off of the"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "adrenaline, he just he swore again. He's"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "like, \"Sure, no problem. I left my"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "initials on a book down there. That's"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "the real proof. I'm good. You know, I"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "could I can tell people about what I"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "saw. I just won't tell them where it is."}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "I mean, how hard can that really be?\""}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "And so he swore. And then they went home"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "and Petrono kept his word. He didn't"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "tell anybody where the cave was. So the"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "years started going by and Petrono grew"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "up. He went into the military. He rose"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "up to the rank of captain. He got"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "married. He had an entire adult life."}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "But the cave never left him and he never"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "stopped thinking about it. And"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "eventually it got to the point to where"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "the conversation happened several times."}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "He had told his wife about it. He told"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "some close family friends. I mean he"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "told basically everybody in his that was"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "close to him in his life. And what made"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "it credible is that he told the same"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "story for 50 years. And every time he"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "told it, he told it with such conviction"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "about what he saw and you know traveling"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "with his uncle in the jungle and going"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "down the shaft and finding these"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "chambers deep in this cave with the with"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "the crystal coffin and these strange"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "metal books and all of it. It was so"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "strange. And not once did he change a"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "single detail. But obviously because the"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "details are so fantastical, nobody"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "believed him. Can't say I blame them."}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "Going all the way forward to 1991,"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "something changed. A man named Stan"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "Hall, who was a Scottish engineer,"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "tracked Petronio down. Stan Hall"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "actually had some history with this"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "particular cave because in 1976 he had"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "organized a massive expedition into Qua"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "de los Taios. Over 100 people all"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "governmentbacked and when they were done"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "they officially declared that the metal"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "library was a myth. It didn't exist."}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "Nothing more to it. Case closed. But"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "privately he had never stopped believing"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "because something about the entire thing"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "just didn't really sit right with him."}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "And so over the years, you know, he had"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "heard about the Ecuadorian man who"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "claimed to have actually been inside of"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "it. You know, who had this fantastical"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "story of seeing a crystal coffin and"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "these strange metal books and writing"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "his initials inside. You know, a lot of"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "people were just like, \"Okay, all right,"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "whatever, Petronian. Sure thing.\" And so"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "in 1991, Stan made it a mission to find"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "him. And when he did, he sat down at"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "Petronio's kitchen table. A Scottish"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "engineer and an old Ecuadorian captain"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "sitting across from each other at a"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "kitchen table 45 years after his initial"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "experience. And so Stan had a notepad"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "with him, but he wasn't really taking"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "notes. He was mostly just listening. And"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "he was so enamored with Petronio's story"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "because he was telling the same story"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "he's been telling for all these years."}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "And Stan is believing him. And it's hard"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "to describe what that does to somebody"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "because Patronio is not a young man"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "anymore. I mean, he's lived the entire"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "second half of his life being told that"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "he was either lying or he was crazy or,"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "you know, whatever that there was"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "something wrong with him. For Petronio,"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "he didn't feel like he had to defend"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "himself. He was just telling somebody"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "who was actually listening. And so after"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "Stan was like, I want to go. You need to"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "take me back. Let's go see it. And so"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "Petrono agreed. And so after 45 years of"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "being quiet, he was going to break his"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "oath. Not by telling anyone where the"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "cave was, but by actually taking"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "somebody there himself. And he was going"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "to finally prove once and for all that"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "everything he's always said, everything"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "that he's always talked about has been"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "real. So they started planning the"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "expedition and for the first time"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "Petrono really had to wrestle with the"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "idea of like you know I can't believe"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "I'm going back but unfortunately you"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "guys know how these stories go. Before"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "the expedition could happen somehow"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "Petrono was murdered. The expedition was"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "officially cancelled. Unfortunately"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "Petrono's wife never lived to hear"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "anyone else believe him. She went to her"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "grave thinking her husband was either"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "mad or just completely delusional. I"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "mean, she spent her entire life"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "convinced that he had just had invented"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "all of it for whatever reason. Now, for"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "context, Qua de los Taios is 12.5 mi"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "long, and only 2.8 of it has ever been"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "officially mapped. The deepest any"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "expedition has ever reached ends"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "underwater in a flooded sump. Past that"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "sump, nobody has gone. So if Petronia"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "was telling the truth and he never"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "changed his story, not a single detail,"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "then somewhere past the flooded sump in"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "the unmapped miles of that cave, there's"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "a metal book, there's a coffin, there"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "exist his initials, the three letters P,"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "J, and A. Unfortunately, whether or not"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "he truly was being honest or that his"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "murder had anything to do with the"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "planned expedition and that there was"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "some sort of cover up happening, we'll"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "never know, folks. It all remains a"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "mystery. One summer day in 1923, a young"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "Italian priest named Father Carlo Cresby"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "Crochi stepped off a riverboat onto the"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "muddy bank of a tributary deep in"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "eastern Ecuador. Now, Carla was wearing"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "a long black cassic that was already"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "damp from the humidity of the jungle."}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "And he had a leather satchel that was"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "slung over his shoulder that held a"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "Bible, a rosary, and a small journal."}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "And as he just stood there on the"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "riverbank, you know, kind of looking"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "around the dense jungle and the wet"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "earth and this enormous river that kept"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "going on forever behind him. He couldn't"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "believe that he was actually here. Carlo"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "was a Celisian missionary and he had"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "been sent all the way out to this remote"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "part of the Amazon basin to live among"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "and eventually convert the Shouir"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "people. Now, the Shouir had a very"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "serious reputation because their"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "ancestors, at least historically"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "speaking, had practiced headhunting and"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "they had successfully resisted being"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "conquered by both the Incan Empire"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "hundreds of years earlier and later by"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "the Spanish concistadors. There was no"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "outside power that was ever able to get"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "a real foothold on them. And now you had"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "Carlo, a very young priest with his"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "rosary and his Bible, thinking to"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "himself that, you know what, if anyone's"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "going to do it, it's me. This is God's"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "work. It's God's will, and I'm here to"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "do it. So over the next several years,"}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "Carlo would slowly build a life in this"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "part of Ecuador. He built a mission in"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "the Morona Santiago region, which is"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "very deep in Shuar territory. And over"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "time, I mean, during this time frame, he"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "began to learn the Shuar language. He"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "met multiple Shuar families. He was very"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "patient. He wasn't trying to push his"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "beliefs on anybody, at least right away."}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "He was just trying to be present and"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "really earn the trust. Now,"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "interestingly, the area where Carlo had"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "set up his mission was near a massive"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "cave system called the Quva de los"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "Taios. And this cave had one main"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "entrance that was basically this"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "vertical shaft that went straight down"}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "into the ground. And that shaft was"}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "roughly about 215 ft deep. So you"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "couldn't just walk in. You had to climb"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "down. And the way the shar got in and"}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "out of this cave, at least every spring,"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "is that they would weave these long"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:19", "text": "ladders out of vines and they would"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:22", "text": "lower them down into the shaft and then"}, {"start": "00:20:19", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "they would descend. And they did this"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "because deep in the cave there were"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "these nocturnal birds called oil birds"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "that nested down there and the shuar"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "would harvest them for their meat and"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "for their oil. Now they had been doing"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "this for generations. So this was"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "nothing new to them. Now the cave was"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "something that was very sacred to the"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "shar. Outsiders were not allowed down"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "there unless the shar specifically gave"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "them permission. So even for Carlo, who"}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "by this point was pretty well integrated"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "into the Schwar community, the cave was"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:21:00", "text": "still off limits. Going ahead to 1927,"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "which is now 4 years after Carlo's"}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "arrival, he actually participated in"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "what was described as an expedition to"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "this cave, the Qua de los Taios. Now, we"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:13", "text": "don't have a lot of details exactly"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "about what the expedition looked like or"}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "what Carlo did, but this was how Carlo"}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:20", "text": "understood it. He had gone with the"}, {"start": "00:21:17", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "Shuar to their sacred cave. And for the"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:26", "text": "rest of his life, this 1927 expedition"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:28", "text": "would be the thing that he pointed to"}, {"start": "00:21:26", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "when scholars and outsiders would ask"}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:32", "text": "him about how he knew about what was so"}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "deep in the cave. He had been there. He"}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "had actually seen it. Now, sometime"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "after the expedition, Carlo was sitting"}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "inside his mission one day when a shar"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:45", "text": "man walked in. Now, Carlo at the time"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "knew this man because he was a member of"}, {"start": "00:21:45", "end": "00:21:50", "text": "the community. And as he came in, the"}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "man was carrying this bundle of cloth"}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "and he walked right over to the table"}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:57", "text": "where Carlo was and he set the bundle"}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:21:59", "text": "down without saying really much. He kind"}, {"start": "00:21:57", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "of unwrapped the cloth and inside the"}, {"start": "00:21:59", "end": "00:22:05", "text": "cloth was this small gold disc. It was"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "exceptionally heavy and the entire"}, {"start": "00:22:05", "end": "00:22:10", "text": "surface of it had engravings. So Carlo"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "picked it up and he turned it over in"}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "his hands and you know he's running his"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "thumb and fingers over all the"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:19", "text": "engravings and he finds them strange and"}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "none of them looked like anything the"}, {"start": "00:22:19", "end": "00:22:23", "text": "shore had ever made. Remember that by"}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "this point Carlo had been living with"}, {"start": "00:22:23", "end": "00:22:28", "text": "these people so he knew their symbols."}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "He knew what their art looked like. But"}, {"start": "00:22:28", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "this was not that at all. This was"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:34", "text": "something else. But Carlo, he didn't"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "really want to insult the man by"}, {"start": "00:22:34", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "interrogating him about where it had"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:41", "text": "come from. So politely he thanked him."}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:43", "text": "The schwar man left and Carlo decided to"}, {"start": "00:22:41", "end": "00:22:46", "text": "store the disc away. Now within the"}, {"start": "00:22:43", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "Catholic church the accepted explanation"}, {"start": "00:22:46", "end": "00:22:50", "text": "for why a shwarm man would come bring"}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:53", "text": "something like this was because that"}, {"start": "00:22:50", "end": "00:22:55", "text": "Carlo at his mission took in orphan"}, {"start": "00:22:53", "end": "00:22:57", "text": "shuar children and he cared for them."}, {"start": "00:22:55", "end": "00:22:59", "text": "That was a big part of his work. And the"}, {"start": "00:22:57", "end": "00:23:01", "text": "understanding within the church was that"}, {"start": "00:22:59", "end": "00:23:03", "text": "these sorts of gifts, they were just"}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "that they were gifts from the shar"}, {"start": "00:23:03", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "families given in gratitude for the work"}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:10", "text": "that Carlo was doing with their"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "children. And so Carlo, you know, he"}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "accepted that framing and it made sense."}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:16", "text": "He was helping people. They were"}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "expressing their thanks. But then"}, {"start": "00:23:16", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "another came and another. And over the"}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:23", "text": "next several decades, there was"}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:25", "text": "basically a steady trickle of Shuar men"}, {"start": "00:23:23", "end": "00:23:28", "text": "showing up at Carlo's mission with these"}, {"start": "00:23:25", "end": "00:23:30", "text": "heavy wrapped objects. They were gold"}, {"start": "00:23:28", "end": "00:23:33", "text": "scepters. There were gold helmets and"}, {"start": "00:23:30", "end": "00:23:35", "text": "plates and, you know, carved objects of"}, {"start": "00:23:33", "end": "00:23:37", "text": "different kinds and little statueets."}, {"start": "00:23:35", "end": "00:23:40", "text": "And every single time the engravings on"}, {"start": "00:23:37", "end": "00:23:42", "text": "these objects did not match anything"}, {"start": "00:23:40", "end": "00:23:45", "text": "from Shuar culture. It was always"}, {"start": "00:23:42", "end": "00:23:48", "text": "something else. But you know, Carlo kept"}, {"start": "00:23:45", "end": "00:23:50", "text": "accepting them and he kept storing them"}, {"start": "00:23:48", "end": "00:23:52", "text": "and pretty soon his shelves in his"}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:55", "text": "mission were full and the entire rooms"}, {"start": "00:23:52", "end": "00:23:57", "text": "were full and Carlo kind of aged there"}, {"start": "00:23:55", "end": "00:23:59", "text": "in that mission just surrounded by this"}, {"start": "00:23:57", "end": "00:24:01", "text": "growing collection of gold that kept"}, {"start": "00:23:59", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "arriving that nobody was really"}, {"start": "00:24:01", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "explaining to him. Now during these"}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:08", "text": "years, Carlo had been writing letters"}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:10", "text": "back to Europe to scholars and academics"}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:12", "text": "and sending them sketches and"}, {"start": "00:24:10", "end": "00:24:14", "text": "photographs of some of the pieces he"}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:16", "text": "had. and he was trying to figure out"}, {"start": "00:24:14", "end": "00:24:19", "text": "what all of this was. And then one night"}, {"start": "00:24:16", "end": "00:24:21", "text": "he was sitting at his desk inside the"}, {"start": "00:24:19", "end": "00:24:23", "text": "mission under a lamp and he had one of"}, {"start": "00:24:21", "end": "00:24:26", "text": "the artifacts laid out on the table in"}, {"start": "00:24:23", "end": "00:24:29", "text": "front of him and next to the artifact he"}, {"start": "00:24:26", "end": "00:24:33", "text": "had an open book and in that book was a"}, {"start": "00:24:29", "end": "00:24:34", "text": "paragraph of an Egyptian wall carving."}, {"start": "00:24:33", "end": "00:24:36", "text": "And so, you know, Carlo is looking at"}, {"start": "00:24:34", "end": "00:24:38", "text": "the artifact and he's looking back at"}, {"start": "00:24:36", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "the photograph and the book and, you"}, {"start": "00:24:38", "end": "00:24:42", "text": "know, he's running his fingertip back"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:46", "text": "and forth between them and he's like,"}, {"start": "00:24:42", "end": "00:24:48", "text": "\"Oh my gosh, it's it's the same figure,"}, {"start": "00:24:46", "end": "00:24:50", "text": "the same shape, the same symbol, the"}, {"start": "00:24:48", "end": "00:24:53", "text": "same lines. I mean, it's sitting on an"}, {"start": "00:24:50", "end": "00:24:56", "text": "object that had come out of the Amazon"}, {"start": "00:24:53", "end": "00:24:59", "text": "basin, and it's matching a carving on a"}, {"start": "00:24:56", "end": "00:25:01", "text": "wall in ancient Egypt.\" And then Carlo"}, {"start": "00:24:59", "end": "00:25:05", "text": "reaches for another reference. This one"}, {"start": "00:25:01", "end": "00:25:07", "text": "though is Samrian Cunia form. And there"}, {"start": "00:25:05", "end": "00:25:10", "text": "are matches too. Figures from ancient"}, {"start": "00:25:07", "end": "00:25:12", "text": "Mesopotamia showing up on gold that had"}, {"start": "00:25:10", "end": "00:25:16", "text": "been carried to him in the middle of the"}, {"start": "00:25:12", "end": "00:25:18", "text": "Amazon jungle by men whose ancestors, so"}, {"start": "00:25:16", "end": "00:25:21", "text": "far as anybody knew, had never had any"}, {"start": "00:25:18", "end": "00:25:23", "text": "contact with the ancient near east."}, {"start": "00:25:21", "end": "00:25:26", "text": "Carlo is just astounded and he's"}, {"start": "00:25:23", "end": "00:25:30", "text": "thinking, \"My gosh, if these engravings"}, {"start": "00:25:26", "end": "00:25:32", "text": "really are Egyptian and Samrian and yet,"}, {"start": "00:25:30", "end": "00:25:34", "text": "you know, they've been in the Amazon for"}, {"start": "00:25:32", "end": "00:25:37", "text": "god knows how long.\" Well, then there's"}, {"start": "00:25:34", "end": "00:25:40", "text": "only one explanation that really makes"}, {"start": "00:25:37", "end": "00:25:42", "text": "sense that these objects and this script"}, {"start": "00:25:40", "end": "00:25:44", "text": "that's on them, they're older than"}, {"start": "00:25:42", "end": "00:25:45", "text": "ancient Egypt. They're older than"}, {"start": "00:25:44", "end": "00:25:47", "text": "Mesopotamia."}, {"start": "00:25:45", "end": "00:25:50", "text": "They are from before any of it. And for"}, {"start": "00:25:47", "end": "00:25:53", "text": "Carlo who was a priest, he settled on"}, {"start": "00:25:50", "end": "00:25:56", "text": "what to him was the obvious conclusion"}, {"start": "00:25:53", "end": "00:25:58", "text": "that these are anti-deluvian. They are"}, {"start": "00:25:56", "end": "00:26:01", "text": "from before the biblical flood. And the"}, {"start": "00:25:58", "end": "00:26:03", "text": "shuir, the people that he had been sent"}, {"start": "00:26:01", "end": "00:26:06", "text": "to convert are the ones entrusting him,"}, {"start": "00:26:03", "end": "00:26:09", "text": "a priest with the pre-biblical history"}, {"start": "00:26:06", "end": "00:26:11", "text": "of mankind. So that's the theory that"}, {"start": "00:26:09", "end": "00:26:14", "text": "Carlos settles on and that's what he"}, {"start": "00:26:11", "end": "00:26:16", "text": "starts to share with the scholars and"}, {"start": "00:26:14", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "academics in Europe. And of course,"}, {"start": "00:26:16", "end": "00:26:21", "text": "before long, just due to the fantastical"}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:23", "text": "details of his story, word of this"}, {"start": "00:26:21", "end": "00:26:25", "text": "priest out in the Amazon and his"}, {"start": "00:26:23", "end": "00:26:27", "text": "collection of anti-dolivian gold begin"}, {"start": "00:26:25", "end": "00:26:30", "text": "to spread. And so, even scholars start"}, {"start": "00:26:27", "end": "00:26:34", "text": "writing back. People start visiting. His"}, {"start": "00:26:30", "end": "00:26:36", "text": "mission becomes famous. Then on a night"}, {"start": "00:26:34", "end": "00:26:38", "text": "in 1962,"}, {"start": "00:26:36", "end": "00:26:40", "text": "a fire broke out in Carlo's mission"}, {"start": "00:26:38", "end": "00:26:43", "text": "church. Now, by this point, Carlo is"}, {"start": "00:26:40", "end": "00:26:46", "text": "much older. He's been in Ecuador for"}, {"start": "00:26:43", "end": "00:26:48", "text": "close to 40 years and the fire because"}, {"start": "00:26:46", "end": "00:26:51", "text": "it spread so fast and you know before"}, {"start": "00:26:48", "end": "00:26:53", "text": "anybody could really respond the whole"}, {"start": "00:26:51", "end": "00:26:56", "text": "building was taken. And so Carlo just"}, {"start": "00:26:53", "end": "00:26:58", "text": "stood outside in his cassic at a safe"}, {"start": "00:26:56", "end": "00:26:59", "text": "distance watching everything before him"}, {"start": "00:26:58", "end": "00:27:02", "text": "burn down. And you know he could hear"}, {"start": "00:26:59", "end": "00:27:04", "text": "the roof beams collapsing inside. He"}, {"start": "00:27:02", "end": "00:27:06", "text": "could smell the smoke in his robes. He"}, {"start": "00:27:04", "end": "00:27:08", "text": "didn't try to go in. There wasn't"}, {"start": "00:27:06", "end": "00:27:10", "text": "anything he could do. The following"}, {"start": "00:27:08", "end": "00:27:13", "text": "morning he walked through what was left."}, {"start": "00:27:10", "end": "00:27:15", "text": "The walls were blackened. The roof beams"}, {"start": "00:27:13", "end": "00:27:19", "text": "had come down. And the air still smelt"}, {"start": "00:27:15", "end": "00:27:21", "text": "like wet ash, like scorched stone, like"}, {"start": "00:27:19", "end": "00:27:24", "text": "smoke that had gotten into everything,"}, {"start": "00:27:21", "end": "00:27:26", "text": "including his own cassic. His cassich"}, {"start": "00:27:24", "end": "00:27:27", "text": "hem dragged through the suit on the"}, {"start": "00:27:26", "end": "00:27:30", "text": "floor as he walked. And and at one"}, {"start": "00:27:27", "end": "00:27:32", "text": "point, he just put his hand against one"}, {"start": "00:27:30", "end": "00:27:34", "text": "of the scorched walls, and he stood"}, {"start": "00:27:32", "end": "00:27:35", "text": "there for a moment, you know, just"}, {"start": "00:27:34", "end": "00:27:37", "text": "looking at all the stuff that had been"}, {"start": "00:27:35", "end": "00:27:39", "text": "destroyed. Reports went out and they"}, {"start": "00:27:37", "end": "00:27:40", "text": "went to Rome. They went to the scholars"}, {"start": "00:27:39", "end": "00:27:43", "text": "in Europe who had been following"}, {"start": "00:27:40", "end": "00:27:46", "text": "Carlos's work. Everything had been"}, {"start": "00:27:43", "end": "00:27:48", "text": "destroyed. All of it gone. Carlo really"}, {"start": "00:27:46", "end": "00:27:50", "text": "had no choice other than to accept fate"}, {"start": "00:27:48", "end": "00:27:52", "text": "and just understand that, you know what,"}, {"start": "00:27:50", "end": "00:27:54", "text": "regardless of how the fire started,"}, {"start": "00:27:52", "end": "00:27:56", "text": "these are God's plans and they're"}, {"start": "00:27:54", "end": "00:27:58", "text": "mysterious. But, you know, whatever."}, {"start": "00:27:56", "end": "00:28:00", "text": "Carlo would continue his missionary work"}, {"start": "00:27:58", "end": "00:28:02", "text": "for the next 20 years. And he would"}, {"start": "00:28:00", "end": "00:28:05", "text": "continue to believe all the way up to"}, {"start": "00:28:02", "end": "00:28:07", "text": "the end of his life that those artifacts"}, {"start": "00:28:05", "end": "00:28:09", "text": "had been sacred gifts from a people who"}, {"start": "00:28:07", "end": "00:28:13", "text": "had entrusted him with something"}, {"start": "00:28:09", "end": "00:28:15", "text": "extraordinary. He died in 1982."}, {"start": "00:28:13", "end": "00:28:19", "text": "Now, more than 30 years after Carlo's"}, {"start": "00:28:15", "end": "00:28:21", "text": "death in 2015, an expedition of outside"}, {"start": "00:28:19", "end": "00:28:24", "text": "visitors made their way deep into the"}, {"start": "00:28:21", "end": "00:28:27", "text": "Amazon into the Schwar territory. And"}, {"start": "00:28:24", "end": "00:28:30", "text": "they were sitting at the Schwar camp on"}, {"start": "00:28:27", "end": "00:28:32", "text": "the Pista River. And at this camp there"}, {"start": "00:28:30", "end": "00:28:34", "text": "were maybe 10 shuar adults and maybe 10"}, {"start": "00:28:32", "end": "00:28:37", "text": "shu children. And you know there were"}, {"start": "00:28:34", "end": "00:28:39", "text": "chickens wandering around. Somebody had"}, {"start": "00:28:37", "end": "00:28:40", "text": "brought out chicha which is a"}, {"start": "00:28:39", "end": "00:28:43", "text": "traditional fermented drink that the"}, {"start": "00:28:40", "end": "00:28:46", "text": "shuar make. And at some point during"}, {"start": "00:28:43", "end": "00:28:48", "text": "this visit the shuar patriarch named"}, {"start": "00:28:46", "end": "00:28:51", "text": "Louise an older man who is a longtime"}, {"start": "00:28:48", "end": "00:28:53", "text": "member of the community. He sat down and"}, {"start": "00:28:51", "end": "00:28:56", "text": "began talking about the visitors"}, {"start": "00:28:53", "end": "00:28:59", "text": "specifically about Father Kresby. And"}, {"start": "00:28:56", "end": "00:29:00", "text": "interestingly, Louise used the word"}, {"start": "00:28:59", "end": "00:29:03", "text": "thief. That's what he kept calling"}, {"start": "00:29:00", "end": "00:29:04", "text": "Father Cresby. The visitors don't really"}, {"start": "00:29:03", "end": "00:29:06", "text": "know what to make of this because"}, {"start": "00:29:04", "end": "00:29:09", "text": "everything they've ever read about Carlo"}, {"start": "00:29:06", "end": "00:29:11", "text": "describes a very well-loved missionary"}, {"start": "00:29:09", "end": "00:29:14", "text": "who was given gifts by a very grateful"}, {"start": "00:29:11", "end": "00:29:16", "text": "Schwar community. But Laura is telling"}, {"start": "00:29:14", "end": "00:29:18", "text": "them that isn't what happened. And he"}, {"start": "00:29:16", "end": "00:29:21", "text": "says a couple things. He says that"}, {"start": "00:29:18", "end": "00:29:24", "text": "Father Krispy, he never actually set"}, {"start": "00:29:21", "end": "00:29:27", "text": "foot inside the Qua de los Taios."}, {"start": "00:29:24", "end": "00:29:28", "text": "Whatever happened in 1927, it wasn't"}, {"start": "00:29:27", "end": "00:29:31", "text": "what he described for the rest of his"}, {"start": "00:29:28", "end": "00:29:33", "text": "life. And he says that over the course"}, {"start": "00:29:31", "end": "00:29:35", "text": "of those decades that Carlo was out at"}, {"start": "00:29:33", "end": "00:29:38", "text": "his mission, helicopters had been flying"}, {"start": "00:29:35", "end": "00:29:40", "text": "in and out of the queue de los taios"}, {"start": "00:29:38", "end": "00:29:42", "text": "carrying gold. And those helicopter"}, {"start": "00:29:40", "end": "00:29:44", "text": "operations were not something that Carlo"}, {"start": "00:29:42", "end": "00:29:46", "text": "was ever shown. And then he said one"}, {"start": "00:29:44", "end": "00:29:49", "text": "more thing and he explained that the"}, {"start": "00:29:46", "end": "00:29:52", "text": "goal from the Quva de los Taios is on"}, {"start": "00:29:49", "end": "00:29:54", "text": "the walls of the Cathedral of Quanka."}, {"start": "00:29:52", "end": "00:29:57", "text": "Now, the Cathedral of Quanka is one of"}, {"start": "00:29:54", "end": "00:30:00", "text": "Ecuador's most celebrated churches. I"}, {"start": "00:29:57", "end": "00:30:02", "text": "mean, it's a huge cathedral in the city,"}, {"start": "00:30:00", "end": "00:30:05", "text": "and it's known all over the country and"}, {"start": "00:30:02", "end": "00:30:08", "text": "the world, mainly for its gold adorned"}, {"start": "00:30:05", "end": "00:30:11", "text": "interior. So, just like the last story,"}, {"start": "00:30:08", "end": "00:30:13", "text": "is it just by happen stance that his"}, {"start": "00:30:11", "end": "00:30:15", "text": "mission had burned down with all of"}, {"start": "00:30:13", "end": "00:30:17", "text": "these objects in it that could"}, {"start": "00:30:15", "end": "00:30:19", "text": "potentially rewrite history? There's a"}, {"start": "00:30:17", "end": "00:30:20", "text": "lot of weird circumstances surrounding"}, {"start": "00:30:19", "end": "00:30:22", "text": "some of this stuff. I mean, maybe"}, {"start": "00:30:20", "end": "00:30:24", "text": "there's truly something hidden down"}, {"start": "00:30:22", "end": "00:30:27", "text": "there. Who knows? Unfortunately, like"}, {"start": "00:30:24", "end": "00:30:29", "text": "everything else, guys, it remains a"}, {"start": "00:30:27", "end": "00:30:31", "text": "mystery. And because you guys have all"}, {"start": "00:30:29", "end": "00:30:34", "text": "made it this far, I want you to comment"}, {"start": "00:30:31", "end": "00:30:35", "text": "down below qua de los taios. So that way"}, {"start": "00:30:34", "end": "00:30:37", "text": "I know who made it to the end and who"}, {"start": "00:30:35", "end": "00:30:39", "text": "didn't. And if you guys enjoy"}, {"start": "00:30:37", "end": "00:30:40", "text": "storytelling like this, where we deep"}, {"start": "00:30:39", "end": "00:30:42", "text": "dive into strange cases of the"}, {"start": "00:30:40", "end": "00:30:44", "text": "mysterious and supernatural, what are"}, {"start": "00:30:42", "end": "00:30:46", "text": "you waiting for? Smack that like and"}, {"start": "00:30:44", "end": "00:30:48", "text": "subscribe button right now for more"}, {"start": "00:30:46", "end": "00:30:52", "text": "content just like this. And as always,"}, {"start": "00:30:48", "end": "00:30:52", "text": "never forget I love you all."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "Deep in the 70,000 acre cypress tapello"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "swamp of Louisiana, a place of ancient"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "trees and Spanish moss, a different"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "legend waits. In 1963,"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "two air traffic controllers saw"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "something over 7 ft tall, covered in"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "grayish hair with a disturbingly human"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "face. They called it the Honey Island"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "swamp monster. But when evidence"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "disappeared, it began a decadesl long"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "hunt filled with mysterious plaster"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "casts, grainy film, and a disappearance"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "that has haunted the legend. In this"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "episode, it's going to turn out that"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "there's something even older and darker."}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "You won't want to miss this one. A few"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "months ago, my family grew, which means"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "one more person to provide for another"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "person depending on the life that I'm"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "building here. And when something like"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "that happens, you start thinking about"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "all the kinds of stuff that most people"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "put off for someday, like life"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "insurance. 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So"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "head to policygenius.com/lurks"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "or you can click the link in the"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "description to compare free life"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "insurance quotes from top companies and"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "see how much you could save. That's"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "policy genius.com/lurks."}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "In early August of 1963, a man named"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "Haron Ford and his hunting partner Billy"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "Mills were deep inside a place called"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "Honey Island Swamp in southeastern"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "Louisiana. Now, this swamp is about 50"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "mi outside of New Orleans and sits right"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "along the Pearl River on the Louisiana"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "Mississippi border. And folks, it is"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "massive. Roughly 70,000 acres of cypress"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "to pillow swamp, teacolored water from"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "all the tanic acid building up as stuff"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "decomposes in the stagnant channels. 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There's no physical evidence."}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "And there's a backstory that people in"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "the area had been telling for years. And"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "the story went that decades earlier, a"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "circus train had derailed somewhere near"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "the Pearl River. And supposedly"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "chimpanzees escaped from the wreckage"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "into the swamp. And over the"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "generations, they bred with the local"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "alligator population. I I know, I know."}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "To produce some kind of hybrid creature."}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "And you know, so Ford's sighting sort of"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "seemed to fit with what the old people"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "had been talking about. You this"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "strange, bizarre legend. But Ford never"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "really went public. He wrote a letter"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "describing the encounter, but he said"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "that it looked like something from a"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "horror movie, but he kept it to himself."}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "Told his family, you know, that was it."}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "And he didn't stay quiet for a few"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "months. He stayed quiet for 11 years."}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "From 1963 to 1974,"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "Harlon Ford went back into the swamp"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "over and over and over again. And by his"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "own account, he conducted more than 100"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "expeditions. He said of tree blinds. He"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "once used a goat as bait, hoping to lure"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "this thing to where he could photograph"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "it. I mean, he also said he had a second"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "sighting during a fishing trip with"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "Mills and some friends from work. And"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "one of the men apparently fired two"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "shots at the thing with the rifle."}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "But through all of it, 100 plus trips"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "over 11 years, Ford produced zero"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "physical evidence. And in 1974,"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "everything changed all at once. Ford and"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "Mills discovered a dead wild boar near a"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "watering hole in the swamp. Its throat"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "had been gashed and surrounding the"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "carcass were tracks and they were not"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "they weren't normal. They were very"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "strange. And so quickly thinking that"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "they had the smoking gun, Ford poured"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "the plaster of Paris directly into the"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "mud and he made casts. The cast were"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "about 9 and 3/4 in long with four toes,"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "three prominent Ford claws, and a"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "smaller offset toe webbing between the"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "digits and a shape that Ford's"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "granddaughter Dana Holyfield would later"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "describe as a cross between a primate"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "and a large alligator. Well, Ford and"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "Mills went public and the outside world"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "learned about Louisiana's Honey Island"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "swamp monster. And once Ford went"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "public, he took the cast to authorities."}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "Then according to multiple accounts, he"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "brought them to the local game warden, a"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "man named Alvin Frierson. This guy"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "examined them and he could not identify"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "the animal. He also brought them to a"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "zoologologist at LSU's College of"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "Agriculture. The university of"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "professors studied the casts and said"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "they couldn't identify what kind of"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "creature had made the tracks. And"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "apparently a cryptozoolologist from"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "Washington DC even flew down to"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "Louisiana to inspect them in person. And"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "the conclusion from every quarter was"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "basically the same that these tracks"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "were made by something that no one could"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "explain. So on March 4th, 1978, Leonard"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "Nemoy, yes, Spock from Star Trek,"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "introduced a segment on In Search of"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "Season 2, episode 16, The Swamp Monster."}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "Harlon Ford appeared on national"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "television and described his encounters."}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "Dana Holyfield would later recall, \"It"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "was monster mania around here. People"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "called from everywhere.\" And the circus"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "train theory got its wildest airing"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "because people in the area described"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "escaped primates breeding in the swamp"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "for decades, producing a hybrid creature"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "that Ford's evidence appeared to"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "confirm. Now, Ford appeared on this"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "broadcast and described the creature in"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "the tracks in detail. He didn't mention"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "any film footage. Now, Ford wasn't the"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "only person claiming to have seen it,"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "though, because there was another"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "person, a local man named Ted Williams."}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "Williams was a trapper, a bayou guy"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "through and through. He had spent his"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "entire life on the water, and he claimed"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "multiple encounters with this thing."}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "Now, his most vivid one, he said that he"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "was swimming the Pearl River one day,"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "and he spotted two of them in the water."}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "two of them moving with what he"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "described as long overhand strokes like"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "a human. One was bigger than the other."}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "Williams tried to get one of them to"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "look at him, but it wouldn't. And so"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "Williams just said, \"You know, I could"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "have shot it, but I wouldn't on account"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "that it wouldn't look at me. It looked"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "too much like a human to me.\" Broad"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "shoulders, arms hanging down below its"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "knees, hands looked almost like humans."}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "Now you know Williams appeared on the"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "same in search of broadcast as Ford in"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "1978 and he was a real person. He was on"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "national television. And then Ted"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "Williams took his boat deep into the"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "swamp one day to set trot lines and he"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "was never seen again. Nobody ever found"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "him. Nobody ever found his boat. He just"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "went into the swamp and he vanished. So,"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "in March of 1980, Harlon Ford died of a"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "heart attack and his plaster casts, his"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "unpublished writings, and a box of old"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "film reels all went to his family. Now,"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "at some point after his death, his"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "widow, Yavon, was going through his"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "belongings in the attic where she"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "noticed one reel labeled in her"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "husband's own handwriting, and it said"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "Honey Island swamp monster. So she took"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "it to their granddaughter Dana Holyfield"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "and when they played the film it was"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "super eight. It showed an introductory"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "trip into the swamp, a view of a tree"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "blind and then a 7-second shot of a"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "large grayish bipeedal figure moving"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "through the trees. Now the creature was"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "partially obscured by vegetation and the"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "footage was grainy, but something was"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "definitely moving in the footage."}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "Holyfield would eventually release the"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "film publicly in a 2007 documentary. She"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "appeared on Fox News, the History"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "Channel, the Travel Channel, and she"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "published books. She donated track casts"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "to the Aida Mystery House in Aida"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "Springs, Louisiana, and became the"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "primary keeper and interpreter of her"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "grandfather's evidence. Now, Ford never"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "showed his film to anyone while he was"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "alive. Not his family, not the in search"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "of producers who put him on TV, and not"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "even the LSU scientist who were the ones"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "to examine the track casts. He filmed"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "what he said was the creature that he"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "had spent years hunting, and he locked"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "it in his attic. But when you start"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "actually looking at the evidence, not"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "the story, but the evidence, something"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "doesn't add up. You see, in 1963, Ford"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "claimed an encounter, but produced no"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "evidence. rainwashed the tracks away."}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "And for the next 11 years, he conducted"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "over a hundred expeditions, used goats"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "as bait, claimed a second sighting where"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "a man fired two shots. And through all"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "of that, 11 years later, 100 trips,"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "nothing. And in 1974,"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "plaster casts, a dead boar, and later a"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "film. Joe Nickel, a senior research"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "fellow at the Committee for Skeptical"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "Inquiry and the only investigator who"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "has ever formally examined this case on"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "the ground. Well, Nickel has a name for"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "this pattern. He calls people like this"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "repeaters. People who claim unusual"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "experiences on multiple occasions and"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "whose discoveries seem, in his words,"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "suspiciously lucky. And then, of course,"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "there's the circus train. So, I looked"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "it up and there's this website,"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "circusandssideesideshows.com,"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "that has documented every US circus"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "train wreck from 1877 through94."}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "66 documented incidents across 117"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "years, and there's not a single entry"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "for Louisiana. A Louisiana radio station"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "investigated independently, and they"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "reached the same conclusion. There"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "doesn't appear to have ever been a"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "circus train crash in Louisiana. On top"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "of that, chimpanzees and alligators"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "can't interbreed anyway. I mean, it's"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "biologically impossible. So, it's really"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "worth looking at those actual tracks"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "because something just doesn't add up."}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "Now, if you remember, Ford described a"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "Bigfoot type primate, 7t tall, grayish"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "hair, amber eyes, you know, bipeedal,"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "humanoid, all of that. But his track"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "casts show something very different."}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "They show webbed toes, four four clawed"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "digits, a shape that his own"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "granddaughter described as a cross"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "between a primate and a large alligator."}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "So what did the experts actually say? In"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "2002, a herptologist named Flavio"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "Morrise, he was the director of the"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "Gatorland Park in Florida at the time,"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "examined photographs of the Ford Track"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "Cast, and his assessment was one word,"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "crocodilian. That same year, Steve"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "Irwin's crew sent an email corroborating"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "the identification, and they said the"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "track cast belonged to a Gator. But the"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "voice that really matters here is Jeff"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "Meldrum. He's an associate professor of"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "anatomy and anthropology at Idaho State"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "University. And he is without"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "exaggeration the most credentialed pro"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "Bigfoot researcher out there. This is a"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "man who has dedicated his career to"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "proving Bigfoot is real. He's not a"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "skeptic. And so when Meldrum looked at"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "the Honey Island Swamp Monster tracks,"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "his assessment was, and this is a direct"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "quote, \"The Honey Island swamp monster"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "tracks are known to be alligator"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "tracks.\" Plain and simple. And you know,"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "his problem with them isn't that he"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "doesn't believe in cryptids. It's that"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "he doesn't want alligator tracks getting"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "mixed up with the evidence he actually"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "takes seriously. Makes sense, right? And"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "of course, then you have the body track"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "problem. You see, Ford described a"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "primate. The tracks are reptilian, so"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "these cannot belong to the same species."}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "And Ford's cast measures approximately 9"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "and 3/4 in. Average Bigfoot tracks,"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "according to data from cryptozoolologist"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "Lauren Coleman, are 14 to 16 in. Ford's"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "tracks are roughly half the expected"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "size for a primate and entirely"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "consistent with the large American"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "alligator rear foot. So the tracks are"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "alligator. Every credentialed expert who"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "has examined them says this. But"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "remember the whole reason anybody took"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "those seriously in the first place was"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "the institutional validation."}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "LSU zoologologist examined the cast and"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "they could not identify it. A gay war"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "looked at them and was stumped, which is"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "what every retelling says. But when you"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "actually try to find the name of the LSU"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "professor who examined those casts, you"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "can't. In 52 years, not a single LSU"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "faculty member has ever been named in"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "connection with this examination in any"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "source. The claim traces entirely to"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "Dana Holyfield's 99 self-published book,"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "which is Encounters with the Honey"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "Island Swamp Monster, and to a beta"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "mystery house exhibit placard, written"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "by museum owner John Prebble. So, here's"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "the thing about the LSU College of"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "Agriculture. When you check the LSU's"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "department structure from 1974,"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "zoology wasn't in the college of"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "agriculture. It was in the college of"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "basic sciences. The museum of natural"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "science where track casts could, you"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "know, logically be examined was also in"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "basic sciences. And the guy who probably"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "would have been the one to look at those"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "casts, his name was George H. Lowry Jr.,"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "professor of zoologology and director of"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "the museum of natural science and the"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "author of the mammals of Louisiana and"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "its adjacent waters which was published"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "that same year in ' 74. He was the state"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "authority on Louisiana mammals, but he"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "died in 78. And there is zero record in"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "his publications, his correspondence,"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "anything of any contact with Harlon Ford"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "and game warden Alvin Frierson. His name"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "appears in exactly one source, a 2023"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "podcast. But no employment record"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "connecting him to the Louisiana"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "Department of Wildlife and Fisheries has"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "ever been found. And Nicholls 2001"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "investigation, the only formal on the"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "ground inquiry in the entire history of"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "this case, he cites Holyfield's book"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "extensively. He makes zero mention of"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "the LSU examination, zero mention of any"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "gay warrant, the most thorough"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "investigator to ever look at the case,"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "either never encountered that claim in"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "verifiable form, or he dismissed it as"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "too vague to even bother with. And when"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "Nicl actually went to the swamp himself,"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "this was in December of 2000, he toured"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "with a wetlands ecologist named Paul"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "Wagner and his wife Sue who operate the"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "Honey Island swamp tours out of Slidell."}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "And their guide was a man named Robbie"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "Charbanet. 45 years of experience in"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "that swamp. 18 of them as a guide. And"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "you know the Wagers, they've seen"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "alligators, deer, otter, bobcats,"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "basically everything. but not a trace of"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "the Honey Island swamp monster. And"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "Charbanet even told Nicl that he had"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "never seen or heard something he could"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "not identify. Certainly nothing that"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "could be attributed to a monster in his"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "words. So the tracks are alligator. The"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "institutional validation is hollow. But"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "there's one more piece and it is"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "physical. You see, in 2003, two"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "documentary filmmakers MK Davis and J."}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "Michael actually traveled to Honey"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "Island swamp to collect footage and what"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "they found instead was basically a"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "confession. People told them the tracks"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "were a hoax and a local woman had the"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "proof. A shoe with a three-toed claw"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "attachment on the bottom designed to"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "press monster-shaped prints into swamp"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:17", "text": "mud. The shoe was found near Harland"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "Ford's former hunting camp. J. Michael"}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "performed a five-point comparison"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "between the shoes imprint and Ford's"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "existing plaster casts. The bulge where"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "the toes began, they matched. The length"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "of the toes matched. The heel size"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "matched. The number of appendages"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "matched. The shoe print and the casts"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "were the exact same size. And a"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "reference encyclopedia,"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "Bigfoot to Moth Man, published by ABC"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "CLIO, goes further and it states, quote,"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "Ford himself wearing a specially created"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:57", "text": "shoe. And then J. Michael said something"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "that just completely reframes"}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "everything. In a 2009 comment on the"}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "cryptozoolology website, Cryptomund, he"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "wrote, \"Most folks down there were well"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "aware of the hoax. The lady on the video"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "even took the shoe to a show and tell at"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "school. A show and tell. A child took"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "the monster track shoe to school for"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "show and tell. The community knew. They"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "had always known. The same community"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "that in 74 had apparently been stumped"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "by Ford's tracks. They had the answer"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "the entire time. And of course, we have"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:35", "text": "Billy Mills, who is Ford's co-witness,"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "the man who was there in ' 63 and in 74"}, {"start": "00:20:35", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "when the casts were made. His only known"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "interview is a 5-minute 23 second clip"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:47", "text": "filmed by Holyfield's mother on a"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "consumer video camera in Texas and then"}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "uploaded to YouTube in 2018. No"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "transcript exists. No published source"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "contains a single direct quote from"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "Mills on anything that could really be"}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "substantiative. In 2003, a folklorist"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "named Francis Liry produced the only"}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:09", "text": "academic study of this thing, a master's"}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "thesis at Memorial University of New"}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "Finland. She interviewed 26 people."}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "Holyfield, Lauren Coleman, MK Davis, the"}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "Wagner. Billy Mills is not among the 26"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "informants. Three separate researchers"}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:28", "text": "have engaged with this case in depth."}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:31", "text": "Nickel in 2001, Larry in 2003, and"}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "Nickel again in 2014."}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "Not one of them produced a Mills"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "interview. The man who was present at"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "the founding event of this entire legend"}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "has said nothing. So now, let's go back"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "to that film, Ford's Super 8 footage,"}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:50", "text": "the 7-second shot of it in the trees. In"}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "November of 2014, Joe Nickel along with"}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "Tom Flynn, the Center for Inquiry's"}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:57", "text": "resident photograph film and video"}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "expert, they studied the film frame by"}, {"start": "00:21:57", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "frame. And here's what they found. The"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:05", "text": "entire available content of the film,"}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "the introductory trip into the swamp,"}, {"start": "00:22:05", "end": "00:22:10", "text": "the view of the tree blind, and the"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "7second shot, all was completed within 2"}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "minutes and 10 seconds of a 3inut"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "30-cond roll. The creature appeared in"}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "Nicholls words within only a couple of"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:23", "text": "seconds wait after Ford arrived at the"}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "filming position. And some of the"}, {"start": "00:22:23", "end": "00:22:28", "text": "footage at the beginning and the end of"}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "the role was suspiciously missing. 2"}, {"start": "00:22:28", "end": "00:22:33", "text": "minutes and 10 seconds. A wildlife"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "photographer enters the swamp, gets to a"}, {"start": "00:22:33", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "tree blind after only seconds of"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "waiting, and captures a 7-second shot of"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:43", "text": "a creature that had evaded over a 100"}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:46", "text": "expeditions across 11 years. all of it"}, {"start": "00:22:43", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "on a single roll of film. His conclusion"}, {"start": "00:22:46", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "is that the creature appears not to be"}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:54", "text": "Bigfoot, but rather big suit. Its brief"}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:56", "text": "appearance on camera and its being"}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:22:58", "text": "hidden from clear view mean that a very"}, {"start": "00:22:56", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "cheap suit could have been employed. And"}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:05", "text": "the sci-fi show fact or faked paranormal"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:07", "text": "files actually recreated Ford's footage"}, {"start": "00:23:05", "end": "00:23:10", "text": "using a man in a camouflage ghillie"}, {"start": "00:23:07", "end": "00:23:13", "text": "suit. They successfully matched it. So"}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:15", "text": "Ford's granddaughter, Holyfield, she's"}, {"start": "00:23:13", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "given three different explanations for"}, {"start": "00:23:15", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "why Ford never showed the film. Firstly,"}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:22", "text": "he was worried somebody would mistake"}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:25", "text": "the monster for a fellow hunter and get"}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:28", "text": "hurt. Two, quote, he was so interested"}, {"start": "00:23:25", "end": "00:23:29", "text": "in learning more about what he saw."}, {"start": "00:23:28", "end": "00:23:32", "text": "Maybe he learned more than what he"}, {"start": "00:23:29", "end": "00:23:35", "text": "thought he did. Three, she wonders why"}, {"start": "00:23:32", "end": "00:23:37", "text": "he never revealed the film's existence."}, {"start": "00:23:35", "end": "00:23:39", "text": "Those are three different explanations"}, {"start": "00:23:37", "end": "00:23:41", "text": "from the same family and none of them"}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:43", "text": "really answer the question. Nickel"}, {"start": "00:23:41", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "offered the simplest explanation. It may"}, {"start": "00:23:43", "end": "00:23:48", "text": "have been because it looks little better"}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:50", "text": "than a joke. And remember Ford's"}, {"start": "00:23:48", "end": "00:23:54", "text": "undated, unpublished article about his"}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:56", "text": "encounters written no later than 74"}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "never mention any film. Now, Ford"}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:24:01", "text": "appeared on In Search of in 1978, which"}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:04", "text": "as you remember was nationally"}, {"start": "00:24:01", "end": "00:24:06", "text": "broadcast, describing his encounters to"}, {"start": "00:24:04", "end": "00:24:08", "text": "millions of people. He did not mention"}, {"start": "00:24:06", "end": "00:24:10", "text": "any film. He had the film. He had"}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:13", "text": "already labeled it Honey Island Swamp"}, {"start": "00:24:10", "end": "00:24:15", "text": "Monster in his own handwriting, and he"}, {"start": "00:24:13", "end": "00:24:16", "text": "showed it to no one. I mean, you'd think"}, {"start": "00:24:15", "end": "00:24:18", "text": "at this point that maybe the media"}, {"start": "00:24:16", "end": "00:24:22", "text": "institutions covering the story would,"}, {"start": "00:24:18", "end": "00:24:25", "text": "you know, reflect some of that. Well,"}, {"start": "00:24:22", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "October 25th, 2024 rolls around and the"}, {"start": "00:24:25", "end": "00:24:31", "text": "History Channel aired the proof is out"}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:35", "text": "there season 4 episode 16 with the host"}, {"start": "00:24:31", "end": "00:24:37", "text": "Tony Harris. The episode featured Ford's"}, {"start": "00:24:35", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "Super Eight footage and a promotional"}, {"start": "00:24:37", "end": "00:24:42", "text": "description asked direct quote, \"Is this"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:44", "text": "newly found footage from the 70s proof"}, {"start": "00:24:42", "end": "00:24:46", "text": "that Sasquatch is living in the swamps"}, {"start": "00:24:44", "end": "00:24:48", "text": "of Louisiana?\" Well, that's funny"}, {"start": "00:24:46", "end": "00:24:51", "text": "because Dana Holyfield released that"}, {"start": "00:24:48", "end": "00:24:54", "text": "footage publicly in 2007. It's been on"}, {"start": "00:24:51", "end": "00:24:57", "text": "YouTube. It was reviewed in the Academic"}, {"start": "00:24:54", "end": "00:24:59", "text": "Film Journal in 2008. Nickel and Flynn"}, {"start": "00:24:57", "end": "00:25:02", "text": "published a frame by frame analysis,"}, {"start": "00:24:59", "end": "00:25:04", "text": "calling it a Patterson knockoff in 2014."}, {"start": "00:25:02", "end": "00:25:07", "text": "It even aired on Destination America in"}, {"start": "00:25:04", "end": "00:25:10", "text": "2013. Maybe they expect people not to be"}, {"start": "00:25:07", "end": "00:25:12", "text": "paying attention. Ted Williams, the man"}, {"start": "00:25:10", "end": "00:25:15", "text": "whose disappearance gave this legend its"}, {"start": "00:25:12", "end": "00:25:18", "text": "most haunting beat. He appeared on"}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "national television in March of 78. He"}, {"start": "00:25:18", "end": "00:25:23", "text": "existed, but his disappearance has no"}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:25", "text": "documentation. There's no police report."}, {"start": "00:25:23", "end": "00:25:28", "text": "There's no missing person's filing, no"}, {"start": "00:25:25", "end": "00:25:31", "text": "newspaper article or obituary. And the"}, {"start": "00:25:28", "end": "00:25:34", "text": "Southeast Bigfoot Research Organization"}, {"start": "00:25:31", "end": "00:25:36", "text": "produced a dedicated investigation in"}, {"start": "00:25:34", "end": "00:25:40", "text": "February of 2026, and even they didn't"}, {"start": "00:25:36", "end": "00:25:42", "text": "find anything. Every detail beyond he"}, {"start": "00:25:40", "end": "00:25:45", "text": "was never seen again was added by"}, {"start": "00:25:42", "end": "00:25:47", "text": "subsequent retellings. Each one more"}, {"start": "00:25:45", "end": "00:25:49", "text": "specific than the last. None of them"}, {"start": "00:25:47", "end": "00:25:51", "text": "sourced anything official. However,"}, {"start": "00:25:49", "end": "00:25:54", "text": "while it looks like all the evidence was"}, {"start": "00:25:51", "end": "00:25:56", "text": "manufactured, that's not where this"}, {"start": "00:25:54", "end": "00:25:59", "text": "story starts. Because before Harland"}, {"start": "00:25:56", "end": "00:26:00", "text": "Ford, before the shoe and the alligator"}, {"start": "00:25:59", "end": "00:26:03", "text": "tracks and the ghillie suit and the"}, {"start": "00:26:00", "end": "00:26:06", "text": "History Channel, the people who lived in"}, {"start": "00:26:03", "end": "00:26:09", "text": "these swamps for centuries had their own"}, {"start": "00:26:06", "end": "00:26:13", "text": "stories. the Chaktaw whose ancestry in"}, {"start": "00:26:09", "end": "00:26:15", "text": "the region is documented thousands of"}, {"start": "00:26:13", "end": "00:26:20", "text": "years ago. They spoke of something they"}, {"start": "00:26:15", "end": "00:26:22", "text": "called Noosa Vala, the long black being,"}, {"start": "00:26:20", "end": "00:26:24", "text": "a tall, dark figure that lived in the"}, {"start": "00:26:22", "end": "00:26:27", "text": "densest part of the swamps and forest"}, {"start": "00:26:24", "end": "00:26:31", "text": "emerging at dusk to stalk hunters who"}, {"start": "00:26:27", "end": "00:26:34", "text": "wandered too far. Well, in 1910, an"}, {"start": "00:26:31", "end": "00:26:37", "text": "anthropologist named St. David Bushnell"}, {"start": "00:26:34", "end": "00:26:40", "text": "Jr. interviewed a woman named Pisa Tunma"}, {"start": "00:26:37", "end": "00:26:43", "text": "who is the daughter of a Louisiana chalk"}, {"start": "00:26:40", "end": "00:26:45", "text": "tot chief about this being the Nusa"}, {"start": "00:26:43", "end": "00:26:48", "text": "Fala. He published the account in the"}, {"start": "00:26:45", "end": "00:26:51", "text": "American anthropologist. The cinjun"}, {"start": "00:26:48", "end": "00:26:55", "text": "settlers had the latish documented in"}, {"start": "00:26:51", "end": "00:26:57", "text": "Louisiana a guide to the state in 1941."}, {"start": "00:26:55", "end": "00:26:59", "text": "A creature with two distinct origin"}, {"start": "00:26:57", "end": "00:27:02", "text": "stories. either the soul of an"}, {"start": "00:26:59", "end": "00:27:05", "text": "illegitimate, unbaptized infant, or a"}, {"start": "00:27:02", "end": "00:27:08", "text": "human child raised by alligators after"}, {"start": "00:27:05", "end": "00:27:10", "text": "wandering into the swamp. Something that"}, {"start": "00:27:08", "end": "00:27:13", "text": "lived in the bayus, overturned boats,"}, {"start": "00:27:10", "end": "00:27:15", "text": "and attacked travelers in the dark."}, {"start": "00:27:13", "end": "00:27:18", "text": "These are not Ford's invention. They do"}, {"start": "00:27:15", "end": "00:27:20", "text": "not depend on his track casts. And"}, {"start": "00:27:18", "end": "00:27:22", "text": "remember that Robbie Charbanet told"}, {"start": "00:27:20", "end": "00:27:24", "text": "Nickel that monster stories might have"}, {"start": "00:27:22", "end": "00:27:27", "text": "been concocted on occasion to keep"}, {"start": "00:27:24", "end": "00:27:30", "text": "outsiders away, to protect prime hunting"}, {"start": "00:27:27", "end": "00:27:32", "text": "areas, which is the exact same"}, {"start": "00:27:30", "end": "00:27:35", "text": "explanation Holyfield herself gives for"}, {"start": "00:27:32", "end": "00:27:37", "text": "the hoax shoe, the one that people made"}, {"start": "00:27:35", "end": "00:27:40", "text": "to protect their hunting territory. So,"}, {"start": "00:27:37", "end": "00:27:42", "text": "while Harlon Ford's encounter might have"}, {"start": "00:27:40", "end": "00:27:45", "text": "been a hoax, it's really tough to say"}, {"start": "00:27:42", "end": "00:27:48", "text": "what exists out there in the swamps of"}, {"start": "00:27:45", "end": "00:27:50", "text": "Louisiana and what stalks hunters deep"}, {"start": "00:27:48", "end": "00:27:53", "text": "in the bayus. I mean, surely there's"}, {"start": "00:27:50", "end": "00:27:54", "text": "something out there, right? I mean, how"}, {"start": "00:27:53", "end": "00:27:56", "text": "do you explain the thousands of"}, {"start": "00:27:54", "end": "00:27:59", "text": "eyewitnesses who have all had bizarre"}, {"start": "00:27:56", "end": "00:28:01", "text": "experiences? Well, unfortunately,"}, {"start": "00:27:59", "end": "00:28:04", "text": "whatever is truly out there in the"}, {"start": "00:28:01", "end": "00:28:06", "text": "swamps will remain a mystery. And"}, {"start": "00:28:04", "end": "00:28:08", "text": "because you guys made it this far, I"}, {"start": "00:28:06", "end": "00:28:11", "text": "want you to all comment below in the"}, {"start": "00:28:08", "end": "00:28:13", "text": "swamp. So that way I know who made it to"}, {"start": "00:28:11", "end": "00:28:14", "text": "the end and who didn't. And if you guys"}, {"start": "00:28:13", "end": "00:28:16", "text": "enjoy storytelling like this, where we"}, {"start": "00:28:14", "end": "00:28:18", "text": "deep dive into strange cases of the"}, {"start": "00:28:16", "end": "00:28:20", "text": "mysterious and supernatural, what are"}, {"start": "00:28:18", "end": "00:28:22", "text": "you waiting for? Smack that like and"}, {"start": "00:28:20", "end": "00:28:24", "text": "subscribe button right now for more"}, {"start": "00:28:22", "end": "00:28:26", "text": "content just like this. And as always,"}, {"start": "00:28:24", "end": "00:28:28", "text": "never forget, I love you all. Keep an"}, {"start": "00:28:26", "end": "00:28:32", "text": "open mind, and I'll see you all in the"}, {"start": "00:28:28", "end": "00:28:32", "text": "very next episode."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "Around 5:30 on the evening of June 24th,"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "1980, a woman named Donna Riggler"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "stepped out of the law office where she"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "worked as a legal secretary. It was a"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "Tuesday and storm clouds were gathering"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "over Union County, Ohio. Now, if she was"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "lucky, she'd miss getting caught in the"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "rain, but if she headed to her car, she"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "was in a great mood, even in spite of"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "the weather. It was the kind of feeling"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "that you get at the tail end of a long"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "workday. You know how those Mondays are,"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "right? When the only thing standing"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "between you and your couch is a short"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "drive home. Well, pretty soon she's in"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "the driver's seat and when she starts up"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "the engine, the radio kicks on and it"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "turns on one of her favorite songs"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "that's playing and she's just catching"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "the start of it and she can't help but"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "smile. Everything about tonight is"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "turning out perfect. But the weather has"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "other plans and all day it's been hot."}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "Like sticky hot. one of those sweltering"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "summer days that just wraps around you"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "like a wet towel. And there was bound to"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "be a shower or two. But now, as Donna"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "pulls onto the road, the sky has gotten"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "noticeably darker. And she could see"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "lightning flickering off in the"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "distance. At about that time, the rain"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "starts. And we're not talking about a"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "drizzle. This is like a downpour. Big"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "heavy drops that kind of sound loud when"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "they smack against the windshield. And"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "so now she's driving through all of this"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "and she's got the wipers going. She's"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "trying her best to watch the road. And"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "luckily, she doesn't live far from her"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "work. And in just a little while, she"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "comes up on these train tracks, which"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "she always crosses on her way home. Now,"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "here's the thing about this railroad"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "crossing because just a few weeks"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "earlier, Donna went over them a little"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "too quickly and she learned a lesson"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "because it ended up throwing off her"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "wheel alignment so bad that she had to"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "take the car into the shop. So, ever"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "since then, she's been taking these"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "tracks slowly and carefully. And not"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "only that, but she also wants to keep a"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "close eye out for deer. 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But"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "why would anyone in their right mind be"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "laying down in the road during a"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "thunderstorm? So, she knows there is a"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "golf course nearby that maybe, you know,"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "somebody golfing had got caught in the"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "rain, but this person doesn't have any"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "golf clubs or bags, so it can't be that."}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "So, she's thinking that maybe it might"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "be a crazy person or someone who's sick."}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "Maybe it's a jogger who's collapsed. And"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "now she thinks that, you know, maybe she"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "can help. But by now, Donna's almost"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "across the railroad tracks. And that's"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "when this figure turns around to face"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "her. But even at this distance, she"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "immediately realizes that something's"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "really wrong because she can't make out"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "a face. I mean, maybe it's the rain, but"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "there's just nothing that she can see."}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "And the figure is now standing fully"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "upright with its knees slightly bent,"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "and it's making this strange gesture."}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "Its hands are extended in front of its"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "body, palms turned upward, kind of like,"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "you know, somebody begging for help,"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "like it's asking her for something. And"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "because of all the the downpour and the"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "lack of visibility, Donna doesn't really"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "know what she's looking at anymore. I"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "mean, it might be a person, but it's too"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "hard to tell. But either way, she"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "doesn't feel good about it. And in fact,"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "she is completely overcome with fear."}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "She's convinced that this person or"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "thing that has spotted her is starting"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "to look like it's moving in her"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "direction. Or maybe the truth is she"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "doesn't know. But that doesn't matter"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "because every fiber in her body is"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "screaming at her to get out of there as"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "fast as she can. And so she throws her"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "car into reverse and she backs over the"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "railroad crossing as fast as possible."}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "The same tracks that she always is so"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "careful about crossing, but she doesn't"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "care about her alignment. She doesn't"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "even glance behind her to check for a"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "train. She just floors it. And she"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "almost fishtails. But she manages to get"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "over the tracks and regain control. And"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "as soon as the car stops, she throws it"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "into drive and pulls onto another road."}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "And she is speeding down the road. She's"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "going really fast, way too fast for the"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "rain. The rain is just pouring down in"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "her windshield and she's gripping the"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "steering wheel and she's really tense."}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "The hair on her body standing up and"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "she's starting to hyperventilate. She's"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "panicking. She's looking for somewhere"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "to stop and try to just come to terms"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "with what had just happened because"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "she's really freaked out. A couple miles"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "down the road, she spots a house. And it"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "doesn't really belong to somebody she"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "knows. It's just the man who lives"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "there. He's pretty much a stranger, but"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "she has noticed him from time to time"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "out in the front yard doing gardening as"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "she drives past, and that's more than"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "enough for her. So, the minute her car"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "hits the driveway, she just parks. She"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "throws open the driver's door and she"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "just goes running out. No umbrella,"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "making a beline for the front door. And"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "when she gets there, she starts pounding"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "on it with all her might. She's"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "screaming, \"Let me in. Let me in.\" And"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "obviously, you know, with somebody"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "pounding on your front door, you're"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "going to answer it. So, within seconds,"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "the door opens and the guy's like, \"What"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "the heck is going on?\" And he's just,"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "you know, he's a simple, quiet country"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "guy. He's older. He's like, \"What the"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "heck is all this racket about?\" But once"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "he gets a look at Donna and he could see"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "that she's just a mess. She's silk from"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "head to toe. She's shaking. She's"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "visibly very distressed. She's been"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "crying. And he's like, \"Oh my gosh.\""}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "Like he could see that there's something"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "wrong. So he's like, \"Come in. Come in.\""}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "He just lets her in without saying a"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "word. Now obviously Don is an absolute"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "wreck. She cannot keep herself together."}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "But after several moments, she manages"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "to calm down enough to ask if she could"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "please use his phone. And you know,"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "because he could see how worked up she"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "is, he's like, \"Sure, absolutely.\" He"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "doesn't ask any questions. He just"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "points her to where it is. And so she"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "kind of quickly walks over to it. She"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "picks it up and the first person she"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "calls is her husband. Now, there's"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "something you need to know. Donna's"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "husband is a Union County game"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "protector. He's very familiar with the"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "outdoors and all the local wildlife. He"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "knows what's out there. And so, Donna"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "has really no idea what her husband's"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "going to say when she tells him about"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "what she experienced. Because ironically"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "enough, just a few days earlier, the two"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "of them were sitting around on a Sunday"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "evening and they were actually laughing"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "about some rumors that were going"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "around. Stories about strange sightings"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "in the area. They thought the whole"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "thing was just ridiculous. But now Don"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "is one of those people that they've been"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "making fun of. She's on the phone. She"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "is sobbing, sobbing. She's barely able"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "to get the words out and she's just"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "asking her husband, \"What did I just"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "see? Do you have any idea what animal"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "was out there on that road? She can't"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "name it.\" And he can't either. All she"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "can do is just describe it. And whatever"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "it was clearly has shaken her to her"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "core. Now, interestingly, several others"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "over the past week had seen things that"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "were just as strange. In fact, 5 days"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "before Donna's experience, a 17-year-old"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "boy named Thomas Quay was sitting in the"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "kitchen of his family's farmhouse on the"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "morning of Thursday, June 19th. It was"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "shaping up to be another lazy summer"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "day. You know, the kind where there's"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "really nothing that needs to be done."}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "Thomas's dad, Rey, already headed out to"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "the golf course where he worked as a"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "greenskeeper. And now the house was"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "quiet. Thomas finishes his cereal. He"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "rinses the bowl. He drops it in the sink"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "and he glances out at the mailbox to the"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "kitchen window and he thinks to himself,"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "\"Gosh, you know what would make my dad"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "happy? I'm gonna go grab the mail.\" What"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "17-year-old really thinks like that,"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "though, honestly? But, you know, he had"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "a habit of letting the mail build up."}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "And so, his dad would get really upset"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "when he wouldn't go check it. So, he"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "wanted to make sure that that was"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "cleared. So, he walks out the back door,"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "he goes around the house, he heads"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "toward the road, and he opens up the"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "mailbox, grabs the mail, no big deal,"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "and then he starts walking back toward"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "the house. But when he heads around the"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "side to go back in, there's something"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "that catches his attention. He realizes"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "that he's not alone. And about 120 yards"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "away, just at the edge of the property,"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "right by the treeine, there's something"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "standing over there and it's watching"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "him. And so Thomas stops and he almost"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "drops the male and he could see there's"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "this dark shape and he can't make out"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "much of a neck, but his first thought is"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "like, \"Okay, this is a humongous black"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "bear.\" But as he's stopped and frozen,"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "he kind of, you know, keeps looking and"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "he begins to realize something that"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "whatever this thing is is just simply"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "too big. And so he's looking and he's"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "trying to gauge the height by comparing"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "it to the house in his mind because"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "that's the only thing his mind goes to."}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "And he figures that if this thing were"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "standing right next to his home, it"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "could actually reach the seconds story"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "window without even trying. So he"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "doesn't stick around and try and figure"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "it out. He's like, \"Oh my gosh, this is"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "a huge black bear. It's watching me. It"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "must have cubs nearby.\" So he's really"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "scared. And in the blink of an eye, he's"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "basically back inside with the door"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "locked. He's really freaked out. And so"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "he just stands there in the kitchen."}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "He's trying to make sense of the"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "experience because he's been around"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "black bears before, large ones at that."}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "And he's never had that kind of feeling"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "where he just it was like this primal"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "urge to just run. And you know, he just"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "keeps telling himself, I was just"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "freaked out. I mean, it's just a bear."}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "We're good. And so he decides right then"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "and there that you know what? I don't"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "need to tell my dad about this. I'm"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "pretty spooked, but I'm just going to"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "keep it to myself. He's going to just"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "put this out of his mind and he's going"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "to move on. Well, the day continues and"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "nothing else really happens. The evening"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "rolls around and Rey, Thomas's father,"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "he pulls up to the farm and he has just"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "gotten home from a long day working at"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "the golf course. Now, Ray's a really"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "busy guy, and in addition to the"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "greenskeeping job, he also works"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "part-time as a police officer over in"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "Russell's Point. And on top of that, he"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "maintains this small 6 acre farm. So,"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "some nights he has to ask Thomas to take"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "over, but on this night, he's off from"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "his job with the police department, and"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "it is the perfect opportunity to go and"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "catch up on some chores around their"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "property. Because if you guys out there"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "have property and livestock, you know,"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "there's always something that needs to"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "be done. But before all of that, Ray"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "comes inside and he grabs a sandwich"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "with his family. And after dinner, you"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "know, he sits down and he talks with"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "Thomas for a little bit just to try and"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "catch up with his son, you know, see how"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "his day went. And right away, he could"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "tell that there's something really off"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "with his son. Thomas, who's usually a"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "chatterbox, he's unusually quiet, he's"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "kind of fidgety, and he could just tell"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "by his son's demeanor that there's"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "something happened, like there's"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "something really wrong with him. I"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "there's something gnawing at him"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "internally that he's just not"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "expressing. And so Ray's like, \"Son,"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "what happened?\" And he's trying to draw"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "it out of him, but you know, Thomas is"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "not taking the bait. He kind of just"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "shrugs and he's like, \"No, Dad."}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "Everything's fine. It's we're good.\""}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "He's like, \"No, no, it's it's not fine.\""}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "you know, he's thinking that it's"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "probably some teenage thing. He doesn't"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "really want to push it further. And so"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "eventually, you know, after trying to"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "pry, he kind of just lets it go. Ry"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "decides like, you know what, my son just"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "has there's something going on, so I'm"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "just going to leave it. And he goes and"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "he immerses himself in his work. The"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "fact that it's staying lighter far later"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "is nice. So he's staying out. He's"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "getting lots of extra work done. And"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "even after sunset, he's still trying to"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "cram in a few more chores. And so the"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "last thing he does is something that"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "he's been putting off for a while. He"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "heads out in his truck and he buys pigs,"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "eight of them. And when all is said and"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "done, he doesn't get home until around"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "11 that night. And so now Ray is in the"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "process of getting these hogs unloaded"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "and into his barn. And after a while,"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "you know, it's pretty tough, but soon"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "he's all done. And when he's gotten the"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "last of them situated, he turns off the"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "light in the barn. And at this point,"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "he's pretty exhausted. you know, he's"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "thinking about it's time to go in and"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "lay down and get ready for bed. And so,"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "he's wiped out. He kind of arches his"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "back a little."}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "And so, he steps out of the barn in the"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "direction of the house. And all he wants"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "now is for peace and quiet. And all of a"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "sudden, he hears his two dogs go crazy."}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "I mean, they are going berserk. They're"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "barking and growling and they're"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "carrying on like nothing Ray's ever"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "heard. And so for most of us, this"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "wouldn't be that odd, but those dogs"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "never barked when Ry was around. They"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "were clearly agitated by something or"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "someone with Ray there. So he thought"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "something has to be very wrong. You"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "know, maybe there was somebody at the"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "house. So, you know, alerted by this, he"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "heads over there to see what all the"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "commotion is. And as he comes around the"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "corner of the barn, he just sees this"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "huge dark shape standing just beyond the"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "edge of the building. and it's"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "silhouetted against the wood. And even"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "though Ray's exhausted, he's instantly"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "on high alert. And his first instinct is"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "that this has to be a trespasser,"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "somebody sneaking around on his property"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "looking to steal or something. So he"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "yells at the person hiding behind the"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "corner. And the moment he does, they"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "take off. They turn and go straight into"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "the waste high under brush all the weeds"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "that Ry hasn't gotten around to mowing"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "out back. And the thing is, this person"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "moves like no one Ray's ever seen. They"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "just go straight through that brush like"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "it isn't even there. There's no slowing"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "down or stumbling, just plowing straight"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "through. And in what little bit of light"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "is out there on the farm, Ray gets the"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "impression that this person was hairy."}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "Like extremely hairy, like German"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "Italian hairy. And to be honest, there"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "are guys who are far hairier than I. As"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "the intruder disappears into the dark,"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "this smell hits him and it's god awful."}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "It's this gagging stench and it reminds"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "Rey of what it would smell like if"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "somebody melted stinky limbburger cheese"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "on a hot car muffler. That is verbatim"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "what he actually explained. Just"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "absolutely rancid. And it is so bad that"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "all he can do is just try his best not"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "to vomit while he gets his bearings. And"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "once he does, he's trying to piece"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "together what just happened, but he"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "can't. So, he walks back into the house."}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "Now, as Ray comes into the house, his"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "son is watching everything and he just"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "breaks down to his dad and he explains"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "everything that he saw, what he saw that"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "morning at the treeine, the size, the"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "color, how he felt, and he's like, \"Dad,"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "you know, I've been trying to convince"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "myself it was the largest black bear"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "that I've ever seen watching me, but I"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "just I can't I can't believe that it's a"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "black bear. It just doesn't make sense.\""}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "and his son is describing his encounter."}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "Now, obviously with everything Ry just"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "experienced, he feels the blood drain"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "out of his face because Thomas is"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "describing the exact same thing that has"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "just scared the life out of him from"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "behind the barn. They both saw it on the"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "same day on the same property. So, Ray"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "doesn't hesitate. He picks up the phone."}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "He contacts the sheriff's office. And"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "eventually four deputies arrive at the"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "farm and they fanned out to search the"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "surrounding area. They comb through the"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "fields and the brush and the treeine,"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "but they came up empty. No signs of"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "anyone or any footprints. Nothing"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "conclusive at least. But while they're"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "at the house, one of the officers pulls"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "Ray aside and he's like, \"Look, I need"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "to tell you something.\" And what he says"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "makes Ray's stomach drop. Him and his"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "son are not the first ones to report"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "something like this. In fact, two days"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "before Thomas saw this thing while"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "getting the mail, another man, a farmer"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "named Patrick Polling, had called in a"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "report right near the county line. And"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "interestingly, it sounded remarkably"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "similar. In fact, the way the officer"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "told it, it was Tuesday, June 17th, and"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "Patrick had just come home that evening"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "from watching one of his sons play a"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "baseball game. Now, like Ry, Patrick was"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "also a farmer. So, when he got home from"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "the game, he thought, \"You know what?"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "Since there's still a little bit of"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "daylight left, I'm going to try to get"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "some field work done before I go to"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "bed.\" So, he hopped on his tractor and"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "he headed out to one of his corn fields."}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "And pretty soon, he was surrounded by"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "nothing but flat open farmland that was"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "bordered by the woods around him. Well,"}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:04", "text": "after Patrick had been working for a"}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "little bit, he spotted something along"}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "the fence row over by the trees. And in"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "the fading light, it didn't look like"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "much more than a figure coming out of"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "the forest, but it was definitely there."}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "And so Patrick said that this person"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "ducked beneath a low branch that was"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "hanging over the fence. And then whoever"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "this was straightened up. Intruders are"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "always worth noticing on a farm. But"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "what really got Patrick's attention was"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "that when they stood all the way up,"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "they were just way too tall. And Patrick"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "said that whoever this was, they had to"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "be around 7 ft tall, maybe closer to"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "eight, and their knees were slightly"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "bent as they walked, so they might have"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "been even taller than that. Now, at"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "first, Patrick was pretty scared, but"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:53", "text": "then he figured out that as long as he"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "stayed on his tractor, he'd probably be"}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "safe. And so, he gunned the engine and"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:21:00", "text": "he just, you know, steered straight"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:02", "text": "toward it, trying to cut it off and get"}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "a better look at whoever this was. But"}, {"start": "00:21:02", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "as Patrick got closer, less and less"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:11", "text": "seemed to add up. He could see that this"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:13", "text": "figure wasn't just tall, they were wide."}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "Patrick guessed that this person must"}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "have weighed around 400 lb. And once he"}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:20", "text": "began to close the distance even more,"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "he got within about a few feet of"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "Patrick. And he began to notice that"}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "this figure is really dark, like it was"}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "covered in this mangy hair. And so he's"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "like, \"Okay, is this person wearing a a"}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "fur coat?\" Eventually, after some time,"}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "Patrick was able to bring the tractor"}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "over until he was about 30 feet away"}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "from this thing, he still didn't have a"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "great idea of what it looked like"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "because even when this figure faced him"}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:48", "text": "and looked at him, he couldn't really"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:50", "text": "make out, you know, a single facial"}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "feature. It's like whoever this was,"}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "they were wearing all black and a large"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:57", "text": "fur coat. And so, you know, he told the"}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:21:59", "text": "officers that it was just there and"}, {"start": "00:21:57", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "there's nothing on its face, like they"}, {"start": "00:21:59", "end": "00:22:05", "text": "were totally camouflaged. But before"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:07", "text": "heading off, it did one last thing. This"}, {"start": "00:22:05", "end": "00:22:10", "text": "person turned their entire body toward"}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "Patrick to face him, and it stood their"}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:15", "text": "upright, knees slightly bent, and then"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:17", "text": "it extended its hands outward, palms"}, {"start": "00:22:15", "end": "00:22:19", "text": "turned up. And the officer explained to"}, {"start": "00:22:17", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "Ray that Patrick said it almost looked"}, {"start": "00:22:19", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "like whoever this was was pleading with"}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "him or trying to communicate something"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:29", "text": "and then it turned and disappeared into"}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:31", "text": "the wilderness. That was the end of"}, {"start": "00:22:29", "end": "00:22:33", "text": "Patrick's sighting. But there was"}, {"start": "00:22:31", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "evidence to back it up because the next"}, {"start": "00:22:33", "end": "00:22:39", "text": "morning Patrick's neighbor, a man named"}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:41", "text": "Donald Mes, discovered a set of prints"}, {"start": "00:22:39", "end": "00:22:44", "text": "right near where the encounter had taken"}, {"start": "00:22:41", "end": "00:22:46", "text": "place. In fact, he made a plaster mold"}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:50", "text": "of one of them. And sure enough, folks,"}, {"start": "00:22:46", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "it measured 18 in long and 7 in wide."}, {"start": "00:22:50", "end": "00:22:54", "text": "Now, interestingly, the officer also"}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:57", "text": "mentioned to Ry that Patrick had noticed"}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:23:00", "text": "one other detail, that its body was"}, {"start": "00:22:57", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "covered in dark hair except for the"}, {"start": "00:23:00", "end": "00:23:05", "text": "hands. The hands appeared to be bare."}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:07", "text": "So, Rey had his own sighting and he"}, {"start": "00:23:05", "end": "00:23:09", "text": "heard about Patrick's sighting from the"}, {"start": "00:23:07", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "officer. And so, fast forward a few"}, {"start": "00:23:09", "end": "00:23:15", "text": "days. Rey, in his capacity as a"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:17", "text": "part-time police officer, he had to"}, {"start": "00:23:15", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "access the reports that were filtering"}, {"start": "00:23:17", "end": "00:23:21", "text": "in through the department. He was"}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "keeping tabs on things partly out of"}, {"start": "00:23:21", "end": "00:23:26", "text": "professional duty and partly because,"}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:28", "text": "well, he had seen this animal or person"}, {"start": "00:23:26", "end": "00:23:31", "text": "himself. He needed to know that he was"}, {"start": "00:23:28", "end": "00:23:33", "text": "not losing his grip on reality. And at"}, {"start": "00:23:31", "end": "00:23:36", "text": "some point, he actually got wind of"}, {"start": "00:23:33", "end": "00:23:38", "text": "Donna Regler's account from June 24th."}, {"start": "00:23:36", "end": "00:23:40", "text": "You remember her, the legal assistant"}, {"start": "00:23:38", "end": "00:23:42", "text": "who had broken down at a stranger's"}, {"start": "00:23:40", "end": "00:23:45", "text": "house. Rey ended up reading through her"}, {"start": "00:23:42", "end": "00:23:48", "text": "description, and one detail stopped him"}, {"start": "00:23:45", "end": "00:23:50", "text": "cold. Donna had described the figure"}, {"start": "00:23:48", "end": "00:23:53", "text": "standing with its knees bent, hands"}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:56", "text": "extended, palms facing upward, and that"}, {"start": "00:23:53", "end": "00:23:58", "text": "was the exact same strange gesture that"}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:24:01", "text": "Patrick Polling had independently"}, {"start": "00:23:58", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "described a week earlier. These two"}, {"start": "00:24:01", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "people, as far as we can tell, had never"}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:07", "text": "spoken to one another. They didn't even"}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:09", "text": "know each other's accounts. And yet,"}, {"start": "00:24:07", "end": "00:24:12", "text": "they had both described this identical,"}, {"start": "00:24:09", "end": "00:24:14", "text": "unusual stance right down at the"}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:16", "text": "position. So, that was the moment that"}, {"start": "00:24:14", "end": "00:24:18", "text": "Rey knew that he wasn't out of his mind."}, {"start": "00:24:16", "end": "00:24:21", "text": "Patrick wasn't making things up. Donna"}, {"start": "00:24:18", "end": "00:24:23", "text": "had not seen a jogger in a rain jacket,"}, {"start": "00:24:21", "end": "00:24:26", "text": "which was one theory that was floating"}, {"start": "00:24:23", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "around. Whatever it was, it was real."}, {"start": "00:24:26", "end": "00:24:30", "text": "Multiple people on separate occasions in"}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:33", "text": "different locations were all"}, {"start": "00:24:30", "end": "00:24:35", "text": "encountering the same creature. Now, Ry"}, {"start": "00:24:33", "end": "00:24:38", "text": "also caught wind of one more sighting."}, {"start": "00:24:35", "end": "00:24:41", "text": "On Thursday, June 26th, a 27-year-old"}, {"start": "00:24:38", "end": "00:24:44", "text": "man named Larry Remy had been working in"}, {"start": "00:24:41", "end": "00:24:46", "text": "a field in Logan County, which happens"}, {"start": "00:24:44", "end": "00:24:49", "text": "to sit right across the border from"}, {"start": "00:24:46", "end": "00:24:51", "text": "Union County. Just like Patrick, he was"}, {"start": "00:24:49", "end": "00:24:53", "text": "driving a tractor when a figure stepped"}, {"start": "00:24:51", "end": "00:24:56", "text": "out of the treeine and began approaching"}, {"start": "00:24:53", "end": "00:24:57", "text": "him. Now, Larry assumed that it was one"}, {"start": "00:24:56", "end": "00:24:59", "text": "of his co-workers who were out in the"}, {"start": "00:24:57", "end": "00:25:02", "text": "field with him that day. But pretty"}, {"start": "00:24:59", "end": "00:25:04", "text": "soon, he realized this wasn't one of"}, {"start": "00:25:02", "end": "00:25:07", "text": "them. They were too big and just too"}, {"start": "00:25:04", "end": "00:25:09", "text": "strange looking. And so, when a second"}, {"start": "00:25:07", "end": "00:25:11", "text": "tractor came rolling across the field"}, {"start": "00:25:09", "end": "00:25:14", "text": "from another direction, this thing"}, {"start": "00:25:11", "end": "00:25:16", "text": "retreated back into the forest. Now, it"}, {"start": "00:25:14", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "would turn out that all five of these"}, {"start": "00:25:16", "end": "00:25:23", "text": "individuals, Patrick, Thomas, Ray,"}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:26", "text": "Donna, and Larry, reported what would"}, {"start": "00:25:23", "end": "00:25:28", "text": "become locally known as the cedar bog"}, {"start": "00:25:26", "end": "00:25:31", "text": "monster. Now, here's the thing about"}, {"start": "00:25:28", "end": "00:25:34", "text": "this part of Ohio. Union County covers"}, {"start": "00:25:31", "end": "00:25:37", "text": "over 400 square miles. Fewer than 30,000"}, {"start": "00:25:34", "end": "00:25:39", "text": "people live there. Logan County, next"}, {"start": "00:25:37", "end": "00:25:42", "text": "door, is roughly the same. Most of the"}, {"start": "00:25:39", "end": "00:25:44", "text": "population lives in these small towns."}, {"start": "00:25:42", "end": "00:25:46", "text": "But as for everybody else, they're"}, {"start": "00:25:44", "end": "00:25:49", "text": "spread out across farms. I mean, we're"}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:51", "text": "talking thousands of them. As for what"}, {"start": "00:25:49", "end": "00:25:53", "text": "exactly the cedar bog monster looks"}, {"start": "00:25:51", "end": "00:25:56", "text": "like, descriptions of the cedar bog"}, {"start": "00:25:53", "end": "00:25:59", "text": "monster all paint a very consistent"}, {"start": "00:25:56", "end": "00:26:01", "text": "picture. A man-like figure well over 7"}, {"start": "00:25:59", "end": "00:26:04", "text": "ft with broad shoulders, proportion,"}, {"start": "00:26:01", "end": "00:26:06", "text": "very large, not gangly or not long"}, {"start": "00:26:04", "end": "00:26:10", "text": "limbmed, just massive and covered in"}, {"start": "00:26:06", "end": "00:26:12", "text": "hair. And oddly enough, in the sightings"}, {"start": "00:26:10", "end": "00:26:16", "text": "from 1980, it was often described as"}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "moving stiffly, almost mechanically, and"}, {"start": "00:26:16", "end": "00:26:20", "text": "when it wanted to look at something, it"}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:22", "text": "didn't just turn its head, but its"}, {"start": "00:26:20", "end": "00:26:25", "text": "entire body. Now, as for where it gets"}, {"start": "00:26:22", "end": "00:26:27", "text": "its name, the cedar bog itself is"}, {"start": "00:26:25", "end": "00:26:29", "text": "actually a nature preserve in the county"}, {"start": "00:26:27", "end": "00:26:32", "text": "next door. It's a glacial fen left"}, {"start": "00:26:29", "end": "00:26:35", "text": "behind by retreating ice sheets. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:26:32", "end": "00:26:38", "text": "roughly thousands of years ago. Today,"}, {"start": "00:26:35", "end": "00:26:40", "text": "it covers roughly 450 acres of protected"}, {"start": "00:26:38", "end": "00:26:43", "text": "land and is home to more than 40"}, {"start": "00:26:40", "end": "00:26:45", "text": "endangered species. The state purchased"}, {"start": "00:26:43", "end": "00:26:48", "text": "the land back in 1942 and it was"}, {"start": "00:26:45", "end": "00:26:50", "text": "officially designated as the first"}, {"start": "00:26:48", "end": "00:26:52", "text": "nature preserve in Ohio. But not long"}, {"start": "00:26:50", "end": "00:26:55", "text": "after it was set aside as protected"}, {"start": "00:26:52", "end": "00:26:57", "text": "land, people in the area began to talk"}, {"start": "00:26:55", "end": "00:27:00", "text": "and stories circulated about something"}, {"start": "00:26:57", "end": "00:27:03", "text": "like a giant ape prowling in the area"}, {"start": "00:27:00", "end": "00:27:06", "text": "after dark. Drivers along Woodburn Road,"}, {"start": "00:27:03", "end": "00:27:08", "text": "which runs parallel to the preserve,"}, {"start": "00:27:06", "end": "00:27:10", "text": "occasionally would catch glimpses of"}, {"start": "00:27:08", "end": "00:27:13", "text": "this enormous silhouette deep in the"}, {"start": "00:27:10", "end": "00:27:15", "text": "trees seen moving at night. And at some"}, {"start": "00:27:13", "end": "00:27:17", "text": "point, authorities even erected a"}, {"start": "00:27:15", "end": "00:27:19", "text": "chainling fence around the perimeter of"}, {"start": "00:27:17", "end": "00:27:22", "text": "the bog. So, this isn't just your"}, {"start": "00:27:19", "end": "00:27:24", "text": "average fence. It's a tall one topped"}, {"start": "00:27:22", "end": "00:27:27", "text": "with barb wire and marked with signs"}, {"start": "00:27:24", "end": "00:27:29", "text": "that read danger. Now, officially, the"}, {"start": "00:27:27", "end": "00:27:31", "text": "fence was there to prevent deer from"}, {"start": "00:27:29", "end": "00:27:34", "text": "wandering onto the road. But some people"}, {"start": "00:27:31", "end": "00:27:35", "text": "don't believe that explanation because"}, {"start": "00:27:34", "end": "00:27:37", "text": "what people really wanted to know was"}, {"start": "00:27:35", "end": "00:27:40", "text": "whether that fence was put up to keep"}, {"start": "00:27:37", "end": "00:27:42", "text": "the public out or to keep something in."}, {"start": "00:27:40", "end": "00:27:45", "text": "The sightings in Union County in the"}, {"start": "00:27:42", "end": "00:27:47", "text": "summer of 1980 brought all of this back"}, {"start": "00:27:45", "end": "00:27:50", "text": "into the spotlight. Hundreds of people"}, {"start": "00:27:47", "end": "00:27:52", "text": "descended on the country roads and cars"}, {"start": "00:27:50", "end": "00:27:54", "text": "driving slowly hoping to spot this"}, {"start": "00:27:52", "end": "00:27:57", "text": "thing. And there was so much attention"}, {"start": "00:27:54", "end": "00:27:59", "text": "in the area that eventually the"}, {"start": "00:27:57", "end": "00:28:01", "text": "situation started to worry law"}, {"start": "00:27:59", "end": "00:28:03", "text": "enforcement. Some of the monster hunters"}, {"start": "00:28:01", "end": "00:28:05", "text": "roaming the back roads were carrying"}, {"start": "00:28:03", "end": "00:28:08", "text": "firearms and deputies were genuinely"}, {"start": "00:28:05", "end": "00:28:09", "text": "afraid that trigger-happy people might"}, {"start": "00:28:08", "end": "00:28:12", "text": "end up shooting another person by"}, {"start": "00:28:09", "end": "00:28:13", "text": "mistake. And so they did their best to"}, {"start": "00:28:12", "end": "00:28:15", "text": "send the crowds home for everyone's"}, {"start": "00:28:13", "end": "00:28:18", "text": "safety. But as for any official"}, {"start": "00:28:15", "end": "00:28:20", "text": "investigations, Union County Sheriff's"}, {"start": "00:28:18", "end": "00:28:23", "text": "Deputy Mike Powers and his team found"}, {"start": "00:28:20", "end": "00:28:25", "text": "trampled corn, crushed patches of grass,"}, {"start": "00:28:23", "end": "00:28:27", "text": "and physical tracks in the soil near the"}, {"start": "00:28:25", "end": "00:28:30", "text": "sighting locations. But the most"}, {"start": "00:28:27", "end": "00:28:32", "text": "disturbing chapter in the history of the"}, {"start": "00:28:30", "end": "00:28:35", "text": "cedar bog monster wasn't the 1980"}, {"start": "00:28:32", "end": "00:28:37", "text": "sightings. It was something that had"}, {"start": "00:28:35", "end": "00:28:39", "text": "happened decades earlier. And for the"}, {"start": "00:28:37", "end": "00:28:41", "text": "officers who had been around long enough"}, {"start": "00:28:39", "end": "00:28:44", "text": "to remember, it was the kind of story"}, {"start": "00:28:41", "end": "00:28:46", "text": "that you just never forget. In 1945,"}, {"start": "00:28:44", "end": "00:28:49", "text": "three years after the preserve was"}, {"start": "00:28:46", "end": "00:28:50", "text": "formerly established, a local deputy"}, {"start": "00:28:49", "end": "00:28:52", "text": "received a report of an abandoned"}, {"start": "00:28:50", "end": "00:28:54", "text": "vehicle. It had been seen by a local"}, {"start": "00:28:52", "end": "00:28:56", "text": "near the edge of the bog. Well, the"}, {"start": "00:28:54", "end": "00:28:58", "text": "officer goes out there. He finds it easy"}, {"start": "00:28:56", "end": "00:29:01", "text": "enough. It's just sitting off the road."}, {"start": "00:28:58", "end": "00:29:04", "text": "And he takes a look and right away, the"}, {"start": "00:29:01", "end": "00:29:06", "text": "first thing he notices is just how cold"}, {"start": "00:29:04", "end": "00:29:08", "text": "it is. Now, this is the kind of night"}, {"start": "00:29:06", "end": "00:29:09", "text": "where you can see your breath, where no"}, {"start": "00:29:08", "end": "00:29:12", "text": "one in their right mind would be outside"}, {"start": "00:29:09", "end": "00:29:15", "text": "after dark. But he's an officer. he has"}, {"start": "00:29:12", "end": "00:29:17", "text": "a job to do. So, he heads toward the car"}, {"start": "00:29:15", "end": "00:29:19", "text": "and the engine is off. The doors are"}, {"start": "00:29:17", "end": "00:29:21", "text": "closed. There's clearly nobody inside"}, {"start": "00:29:19", "end": "00:29:23", "text": "after, you know, he's looked around. And"}, {"start": "00:29:21", "end": "00:29:25", "text": "so, he's shining his flashlight around"}, {"start": "00:29:23", "end": "00:29:27", "text": "the area, looking for any trace of where"}, {"start": "00:29:25", "end": "00:29:29", "text": "these individuals or individual might"}, {"start": "00:29:27", "end": "00:29:32", "text": "have gone. And he shines it on the"}, {"start": "00:29:29", "end": "00:29:35", "text": "ground and he notices footprints, a"}, {"start": "00:29:32", "end": "00:29:37", "text": "trail leading away from the car, right"}, {"start": "00:29:35", "end": "00:29:39", "text": "to the direction of the preserve. So,"}, {"start": "00:29:37", "end": "00:29:42", "text": "with one hand on his flashlight and his"}, {"start": "00:29:39", "end": "00:29:44", "text": "other on his sidearm, he follows the"}, {"start": "00:29:42", "end": "00:29:47", "text": "tracks and in just a few steps, he's"}, {"start": "00:29:44", "end": "00:29:49", "text": "traced them to the tree line. But once"}, {"start": "00:29:47", "end": "00:29:52", "text": "he gets inside the bog, there's no more"}, {"start": "00:29:49", "end": "00:29:54", "text": "trail anymore. It just ends. Now, not"}, {"start": "00:29:52", "end": "00:29:57", "text": "really knowing what else to do, he just"}, {"start": "00:29:54", "end": "00:29:59", "text": "goes back to the station and he runs the"}, {"start": "00:29:57", "end": "00:30:01", "text": "plates and he's able to trace the"}, {"start": "00:29:59", "end": "00:30:03", "text": "vehicle back to a local teenager. And so"}, {"start": "00:30:01", "end": "00:30:05", "text": "after finding that out, he calls the"}, {"start": "00:30:03", "end": "00:30:08", "text": "home and the kid's parents are able to"}, {"start": "00:30:05", "end": "00:30:09", "text": "confirm that their son is gone. But they"}, {"start": "00:30:08", "end": "00:30:11", "text": "aren't worried because he'd left the"}, {"start": "00:30:09", "end": "00:30:13", "text": "house earlier that evening with two of"}, {"start": "00:30:11", "end": "00:30:16", "text": "his good friends. They had headed out on"}, {"start": "00:30:13", "end": "00:30:19", "text": "a camping trip. Oh, okay. Cool."}, {"start": "00:30:16", "end": "00:30:22", "text": "Everything's good. But the officer has"}, {"start": "00:30:19", "end": "00:30:25", "text": "bad news because where the trail ended,"}, {"start": "00:30:22", "end": "00:30:27", "text": "he hadn't seen a tent or any gear. And"}, {"start": "00:30:25", "end": "00:30:29", "text": "in fact, there was no sign of the three"}, {"start": "00:30:27", "end": "00:30:32", "text": "teenagers at all. So a search was"}, {"start": "00:30:29", "end": "00:30:33", "text": "organized. Deputies and volunteers"}, {"start": "00:30:32", "end": "00:30:36", "text": "looked through the preserve for days on"}, {"start": "00:30:33", "end": "00:30:38", "text": "end, but like many of these missing 411"}, {"start": "00:30:36", "end": "00:30:40", "text": "stories, they came up empty-handed."}, {"start": "00:30:38", "end": "00:30:43", "text": "There were no remains that were ever"}, {"start": "00:30:40", "end": "00:30:45", "text": "found or any other evidence to suggest"}, {"start": "00:30:43", "end": "00:30:47", "text": "that they were even there, like"}, {"start": "00:30:45", "end": "00:30:50", "text": "clothing, personal items, that sort of"}, {"start": "00:30:47", "end": "00:30:52", "text": "thing. And in fact, in the end, there's"}, {"start": "00:30:50", "end": "00:30:54", "text": "really no indication that the boys had"}, {"start": "00:30:52", "end": "00:30:57", "text": "ever actually set foot in the bog beyond"}, {"start": "00:30:54", "end": "00:30:59", "text": "a few steps. Their families never"}, {"start": "00:30:57", "end": "00:31:02", "text": "received answers. and the case and the"}, {"start": "00:30:59", "end": "00:31:04", "text": "trail eventually went cold. Now, not"}, {"start": "00:31:02", "end": "00:31:06", "text": "long after that, the chainlink fence"}, {"start": "00:31:04", "end": "00:31:08", "text": "went up. And whether it was put up to"}, {"start": "00:31:06", "end": "00:31:10", "text": "protect the public from the terrain or"}, {"start": "00:31:08", "end": "00:31:12", "text": "to contain whatever might be living"}, {"start": "00:31:10", "end": "00:31:14", "text": "inside was a question that the"}, {"start": "00:31:12", "end": "00:31:16", "text": "authorities never answered to anyone's"}, {"start": "00:31:14", "end": "00:31:18", "text": "satisfaction. I mean, even today,"}, {"start": "00:31:16", "end": "00:31:21", "text": "sightings of this of the cedar bog"}, {"start": "00:31:18", "end": "00:31:24", "text": "monster continue. One man, a local"}, {"start": "00:31:21", "end": "00:31:26", "text": "resident named Chris Er, lives along"}, {"start": "00:31:24", "end": "00:31:28", "text": "Cedar Creek Road and it runs directly"}, {"start": "00:31:26", "end": "00:31:31", "text": "through his property from the bog. He"}, {"start": "00:31:28", "end": "00:31:33", "text": "said that he regularly hears reports"}, {"start": "00:31:31", "end": "00:31:35", "text": "from neighbors and nearby farmers about"}, {"start": "00:31:33", "end": "00:31:38", "text": "strange things in the wilderness."}, {"start": "00:31:35", "end": "00:31:41", "text": "Chickens go missing, pets go missing."}, {"start": "00:31:38", "end": "00:31:44", "text": "Whatever is responsible seems to be most"}, {"start": "00:31:41", "end": "00:31:46", "text": "active during the spring and fall."}, {"start": "00:31:44", "end": "00:31:48", "text": "Farmers in the area still report bizarre"}, {"start": "00:31:46", "end": "00:31:50", "text": "and unexplained disturbances. Union"}, {"start": "00:31:48", "end": "00:31:52", "text": "County officials were once quoted as"}, {"start": "00:31:50", "end": "00:31:54", "text": "saying that they don't know what was out"}, {"start": "00:31:52", "end": "00:31:57", "text": "there, but that people were clearly"}, {"start": "00:31:54", "end": "00:31:59", "text": "encountering something. And as one"}, {"start": "00:31:57", "end": "00:32:01", "text": "officer put it, \"You can't fabricate"}, {"start": "00:31:59", "end": "00:32:02", "text": "that many accounts and have them all"}, {"start": "00:32:01", "end": "00:32:05", "text": "tell the same story. It would just be"}, {"start": "00:32:02", "end": "00:32:07", "text": "too hard.\" The true identity of the"}, {"start": "00:32:05", "end": "00:32:10", "text": "person, animal, or being that those five"}, {"start": "00:32:07", "end": "00:32:13", "text": "original eyewitnesses saw back in 1980,"}, {"start": "00:32:10", "end": "00:32:16", "text": "and the real identity of the cedar bog"}, {"start": "00:32:13", "end": "00:32:17", "text": "monster remain unknown. And because you"}, {"start": "00:32:16", "end": "00:32:20", "text": "guys made it this far, I want you to all"}, {"start": "00:32:17", "end": "00:32:22", "text": "comment down below into the bog. So that"}, {"start": "00:32:20", "end": "00:32:23", "text": "way I know who made it to the end and"}, {"start": "00:32:22", "end": "00:32:25", "text": "who didn't. 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[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "On the floor of every ocean on Earth"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "exists something that nobody has ever"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "seen. In this episode, I'm walking you"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "through a marine geologist 33-year"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "obsession, a sketch Leonardo da Vinci"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "drew 500 years ago, and the oldest"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "living mystery that science has never"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "been able to catch. You won't want to"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "miss this one. In 1976, a marine"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "geologist named Peter Rona sat at his"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "desk inside an office at Rutgers"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "University and he was going through a"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "stack of photographs that had just come"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "back from the film lab. So he leaned"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "forward, he adjusted his glasses and"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "just stared. At the time, Peter was"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "working on this project to map the"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "midatlantic ridge, which is a massive"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "underwater mountain range that runs down"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "the middle of the Atlantic Ocean. And"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "the way he was mapping it was basically"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "by dragging this sled behind this"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "research ship that had cameras mounted"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "on it. And the sled would get lowered 2"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "mi straight down to the ocean floor. and"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "it would get pulled across the bottom"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "for 24 hours just taking photographs the"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "entire time. And so after doing this,"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "they acquired this very large database"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "of photos that they could then map the"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "midatlantic ridge. But the cameras on"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "the sled were 35 mm black and white"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "film. And so unlike today where you"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "could just easily look at the images in"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "real time through a monitor, this was"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "much more of a laborous process. He had"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "to wait until he got back to land and"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "then send the film off to get developed."}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "And once it was developed, they'd send"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "the prints back to him and he would just"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "have to sit down with all the prints and"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "organize them chronologically."}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "And only then could he discern the data."}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "I want to be clear here that we're"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "talking about hundreds of photographs."}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "Unfortunately, there's not really a lot"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "going on in the majority of them. Just"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "mud, sediment, more mud. But then he"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "paused when he flipped to the next photo"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "and his mouth opened and he kind of just"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "stared because covering the entire frame"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "were what appeared to be thousands of"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "tiny holes. And so he leaned in a little"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "closer and he squinted. And he was"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "right. They were all arranged in a"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "perfect hexagonal pattern. 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Before I get deeper"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "into this case, I want to talk about"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "something that's actually become part of"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "my routine, and it's the reason today's"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "video is brought to you by Grunes. Look,"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "I don't really have a normal schedule."}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "I'm up late pulling timelines together,"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "cross referencing reports, and going"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "down rabbit holes at 3:00 in the"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "morning. That's just the job. And for a"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "while, I was pretty terrible at taking"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "care of myself while doing it. I had a"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "cabinet full of different multivitamins,"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "green powders that I didn't really mix a"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "whole lot, and a probiotic that I just"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "kept forgetting. And half of them were"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "probably just passing straight through"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "me. That's genuinely why goons caught my"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "attention. Now, this isn't some"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "multivitamin, and it's not just a green"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "gummy. It's not a probiotic. It's all of"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "those things and then some packed into"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "one snack a day at a fraction of what I"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "was spending on all those separate"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "bottles. And honestly, they taste pretty"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "good. Here's what actually sold me"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "though from a research standpoint"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "because, you know, I'm going to look"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "into it. Generic multivitamins contain"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "around 7 to nine vitamins. Gruns packs"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "in over 20 and minerals across 60"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "ingredients, including nutrient-dense"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "whole foods. And something that's very"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "important to me is that goons is"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "actually methylated, which is a"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "technical way of saying the vitamins"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "like B12 and folate are in a form that"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "your body can absorb. You see, a lot of"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "supplements actually skipped that step"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "from a biological perspective, which"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "means that you're basically paying for"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "something that isn't doing its job"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "because your body can't absorb it all."}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "And once I learned that, it really"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "bothered me and it's probably going to"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "bother you, too. The ingredients in"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "goons also contains vitamin C which"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "helps reduce immunity damaging free"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "radicals. 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And wouldn't"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "you believe it, it was the exact same"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "thing. And so, he goes on to the next"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "one. Same thing. Now, what's interesting"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "is that some of the patches he saw had"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "at least 300 holes in them, all arranged"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "with mathematical precision. You know,"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "he kind of chuckled to himself. 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And so he leans back in"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "and he puts his glasses back on and he"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "grabs the several photographs that had"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "these strange holes in them. And he just"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "kept analyzing every little detail and"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "nuance, just looking for some sort of"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "imperfection that would indicate that"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "they were fake in some way. But moments"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "later, he realized these were taken from"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "the ocean floor. If these patterns are"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "real, the only possible explanation was"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "that they were footprints. And as"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "bizarre as that is, that's where his"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "mind went. He could only think of them"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "as being footprints for some kind of"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "extraterrestrial visitor. Nothing else"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "made sense. And so after really thinking"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "on this for a while, I mean this was"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "several hours just really trying to"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "digest what he was truly looking at and"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "what the implications of these were. He"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "realized he finally had to tell"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "somebody. I mean he had no idea how to"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "explain who made the patterns what,"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "when, where, and why. But Peter had a"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "master's degree in geology from Yale."}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "And after graduation, he took a job at"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "Standard Oil as a petroleum geologist."}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "If you know anything about that job,"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "it's a very stable and very comfortable"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "position and it's something that he"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "could have done for the rest of his"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "life. And so in 1958 over Christmas,"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "Peter was visiting Manhattan and he just"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "so happened to walk past a pier where a"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "group of oceanographers were unloading"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "equipment from a research ship. Now, for"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "whatever reason, at that moment, he"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "found himself just so fascinated and he"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "just stood there and he watched them for"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "a while and eventually he wandered over,"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "introduced himself and he started asking"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "them questions like, \"What was their job"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "like? What did they do? What did they"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "study?\" And naturally, he found himself"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "in deep conversation sharing parts of"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "his job and his personal life. And this"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "interaction really affected him so much"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "so that he was inspired to then quit his"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "job at Standard Oil and then restart his"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "entire career in marine geology. And it"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "was only because of his career switch"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "that he was now looking at those"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "photographs, the ones that he was at a"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "complete loss with of who to show these"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "to to get a second opinion. And so"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "thinking he's like, \"You know what? I"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "know what I need to do.\" He began"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "sending them around to different"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "institutions. He sent them to the marine"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "biologist at Ruters and to the"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "Smithsonian Institution. His rule of"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "thumb was that if he can get a hold of"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "an expert in something that lived on the"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "ocean floor, he was going to track them"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "down and show them the photos. Now,"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "what's really fascinating is that one by"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "one, many of these experts gave him the"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "same answer. they had no idea what it"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "could be and that they had never seen"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "such a thing ever. Now, for people whose"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "job and life it was to know everything"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "about what lived down there and that"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "nobody could recognize it felt very"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "demoralizing for Peter. I mean, he was"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "just hitting dead ends after dead ends"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "and he didn't really know where to get"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "an answer from. However, that didn't"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "stop him and he kept trying regardless"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "of how many shrugs other experts gave"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "him. Well, about two years went by and a"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "colleague of Peter by the name of George"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "F. Merrill had been discussing plans"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "with Peter about publishing a paper. You"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "see, he was very much an advocate for,"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "you know, Peter to get this out there."}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "And he just kept telling him, \"Come on,"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "this is how we're going to get some"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "answers. You know, we need to do this.\""}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "And so, they both decided to publish it."}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "Now even in the publication the best"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "description that they could give or I"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "should say the most specific"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "classification was that these particular"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "patterns had been made by invertebrates"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "of uncertain identity which if you know"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "anything about scientific language just"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "means hey we know that something made"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "these but we don't know what. Now their"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "hope in publishing this was that they"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "would finally get an answer. they would"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "finally have their aha moment from some"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "person who just happened to know what it"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "could be. Now, often Peter felt like he"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "would lose sleep over this mystery. I"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "mean, there would be afternoons where he"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "would just sit in his office and he'd"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "pull the photographs from his drawer and"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "stare at them and just try to figure out"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "what it was that he was looking at."}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "Like, what on earth was it? and he would"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "pull up old documents that he had and"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "other resource material and even in the"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "vaguest of sense just try to make some"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "sort of correlation as to what they are."}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "Whatever this is continued to elude him"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "and he felt like he was starting to"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "descend into madness. Within the next"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "couple of months, something very"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "interesting happened. Peter sitting at"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "his desk like any other day and he went"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "to go check the mail and he saw that he"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "had a letter. Now, curiously, he held up"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "the envelope and he looked at the return"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "address and he squinted. It was from"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "Germany. Now, his mind immediately went"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "to somebody having sent him a letter"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "with answers to this mystery, but he"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "didn't want to get his hopes up."}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "So, he took a deep breath and he pulled"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "the mail opener off his desk and he cut"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "open the envelope and he pulled out the"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "letter. The letter was written by a man"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "named Adolf Silacer. And at the time he"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "was one of the most famous trace fossil"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "experts in the world. I mean when it"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "came to knowing about any sort of"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "ancient structure left behind by"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "anything living, he was the guy you went"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "to. So you know very much beyond"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "educated and qualified. And so the more"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "that Peter read, the more excited he"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "became because it turns out that Adolf"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "was addressing the mystery that had been"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "eating Peter alive for the past several"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "years. And in his letter, he identified"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "the patterns he explained and that they"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "actually have a name. They're called"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "Paleodiction Nadosum, which means"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "ancient net. And as it turned out,"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "scientists had apparently been finding"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "this exact fossil and rock formations"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "that were all over the world for easily"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "hundreds of years. And interestingly,"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "even Leonardo da Vinci had apparently"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "sketched one of these patterns in one of"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "his notebooks over 500 years ago. I"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "mean, that's how long this fossil has"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "been on the radar of those who are"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "paying attention to it. Now, in the"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "letter written to Peter, it was"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "explained that the fossil only ever"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "showed up in rock. There was this"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "assumption among paleontologists that"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "whatever made these patterns had gone"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "extinct somewhere around 50 million"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "years ago. That was the collective"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "consensus. But Peter had just found a"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "modern version that apparently was alive"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "and on the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean."}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "So he sat back in his chair and he put"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "the letter down and he thought, \"Oh my"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "god, I just made a scientific"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "breakthrough. I mean, the fact that an"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "expert in this field is writing to me"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "and paying attention means that we can"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "work together. We can make history here."}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "And for pretty much the next 24 hours,"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "he became obsessed with these"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "photographs. He was so amped up and"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "excited. He would just pull them out."}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "He'd stare at them. And the entire time"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "he's making plans in his head to get"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "back down there and, you know, find"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "these things so that they could solve"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "the mystery once and for all. But"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "unfortunately, there was a bit of a"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "problem because the site where Peter had"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "found those patterns was more than 2 mi"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "straight down and it was located right"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean. To"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "get back down there, I mean, you would"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "have to get a deep sea submersible. And"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "to make things more complicated, they"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "are incredibly expensive to operate. I"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "mean, we're talking millions of bucks"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "just for a single dive, which meant that"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "he would have to get approved for"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "funding. And, you know, even though he"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "was beyond exciting, it was a little"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "demoralizing to realize that nobody was"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "going to fund a mission whose only"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "purpose was to photograph some hexagonal"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "patterns in the mud. I mean, they just"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "wouldn't get it. And so, he tried to"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "rationalize it as best he could and come"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "up with a plan B and C and D. But no"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "matter which way he spun it in his mind,"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "there's no way he's going to be able to"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "pitch this right to get the funding and"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "to get all the logistics worked out. It"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "just wasn't going to happen. And so by"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "this point, years go by and Peter"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "continues on with his life. You know, he"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "works on other projects, he does other"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "stuff, but he just can't let this go."}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "And as time has passed, he's actually"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "written back to Adolf and they've"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "developed somewhat of a working"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "relationship. He felt extremely"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "validated having this expert in that"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "field reach out to him and confirm that"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "yes, this is something to pay attention"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "to. But the roadblock of not being able"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "to get back down there and see it again"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "was obviously pretty defeating. Now, in"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "1985, Peter and his team were still busy"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "mapping the Mid-Atlantic Ridge. Now, if"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "you're thinking, how is it taking him"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "this long? Just know that it is an"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "extremely ongoing and complicated body"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "of work. But it just so happens that"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "during this time they discovered"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "something completely unrelated to the"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "shapes from years ago because right near"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "where Peter had found the hexagons, they"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "also happened to find a system of"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "hydrothermal vents. Well, it just so"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "happened that that turned out to be"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "Peter's smoking gun. The kind of"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "discovery that would open up all sorts"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "of funding. And before long, money began"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "pouring into that region for research."}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "And so Peter quickly realized that any"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "submersible that was going to go down"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "there to study the vents would also be"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "able to study the hexagons. Making the"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "best of the situation, he kind of began"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "piggybacking. He would carefully look at"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "dive logs to find when they were"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "scheduled and do anything he could to"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "find a way to be on it. And that's when"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "he began hunting. And so in 1990, Peter"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "made his first dive in a submersible"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "called the Alvin, which is a deep sea"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "research vessel operated by the Woods"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "Hole Oceanographic Institution. But it's"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "really just a titanium sphere and it's"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "barely wide enough to fit three guys,"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "you know, kind of crouched inside"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "together. But on the morning of the"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "dive, Peter is standing on the dock of"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "the research ship, and he could see that"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "the ocean is stretched out in every"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "direction, and he feels so excited"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "because it has been 14 years of staring"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "at these photos and not having a single"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "answer of exactly what on earth made"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "these hexagons. With the Alvin right in"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "front of him, you know, he's getting all"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "of his final checks from the support"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "group. And being 2 miles straight down"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "from where he's standing, he knows it's"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "time. Now joining Peter are two other"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "men, the pilot and a researcher who's"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "going to be assisting Peter. And so the"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "two of them come over to Peter and they"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "begin, you know, going in conversation,"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "just going through all the pre-dive"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "briefing. They talk about the route."}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "They go over all the protocols and all"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "the possible contingencies in case"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "something happens if things were to go"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "ary. Finally, it's time. The three of"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "them walk across the deck. Peter climbs"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "the ladder. He lures himself feet first"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "down the hatch and after him the two"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "other enter. The hatch gets sealed and"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "the Alvin begins its descent. Now 2"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "hours later they finally get to the"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "bottom. And at first they can't really"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "see much because it's so dark and"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "there's only just a little bit of light"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "filtering down. I mean let me remind you"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "that this is pitch black. The only way"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "they're even seeing is because there are"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "flood lights mounted on the exterior."}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "And the deeper they go, it's"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "continuously getting colder and colder."}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "So much so that it's near freezing. And"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "the three of them can begin to feel it"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "on the metal. I mean, not to mention,"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "the pressure is enough to crush anything"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "almost instantly. I mean, if there was a"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "single crack, they'd all be gone. And"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "all three men are just in anticipation"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "as they descend more and more. They're"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "watching the depth gauge. Nobody's"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "really talking. They're kind of just"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "looking out, waiting for them to get to"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "their destination, which finally happens"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "at around 3,500 m. The submersible kind"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "of levels out, and it begins moving"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "along the ocean floor because they're"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "finally where they need to be. The pilot"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "turns on the flood lights, and right"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "there, for the first time in 14 years,"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "Peter could see them in the mud are the"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "hexagons and they're looking exactly as"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "they had in the photos. extremely"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "precise and perfectly symmetrical. Only"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "this time, they're not an actual"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "photograph, but about 4t away from his"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "face, pressed into the mud deep in the"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "ocean. So, you know, Peter just starts"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "pouring sweat and his heart's pounding,"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "and he's in that mode of, \"Oh my gosh,"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "here it is. We've got it. We got it.\""}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "And so, he directs the submersible"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "robotic arm to lower this hollow plastic"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "tube down into the mud right over one of"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "the patterns. And so the tube kind of"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "just sinks into the sediment and it"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "scoops out a core sample and they"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "quickly pull it back up and they begin"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "their ascent back to the surface. So"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "they get back to the surface. They get"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "the core sample into the lab and Peter,"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "he lays it out. He pushes the sediment"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "onto the tray and the mud. It kind of"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "holds shape and inside of it exactly as"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "he expected. There's a perfect honeycomb"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "of tunnels like the architecture of the"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "hexagons, but now it's in three"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "dimensions. the same structure you see"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "in the fossils, but there's nothing"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "inside. There's nothing in the tunnels."}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "And so he stares at it for a while. And"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "he thinks that at first, you know, when"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "you lower a plastic tube into mud where"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "a living creature is hiding, that"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "whatever is in there, it's probably"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "going to feel the vibrations. It's going"}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "to feel like a disturbance. And so his"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "theory becomes that whatever was living"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "inside must have pulled back. It must"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "have retreated deeper into the network"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "of tunnels. And on top of that, Peter"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "was seeing something that made him even"}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "more sure that there was a living"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "creature down there. Because when he"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "looked at the core sample, on top of the"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "hexagonal structures, there was this"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "layer of red metallic sediment. That"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "kind of sediment is normally only found"}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "below the ocean floor. So, the only way"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:47", "text": "it was ending up on top was if something"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "something biological was pushing it up."}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:53", "text": "Something was moving that sediment."}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:55", "text": "something alive. He was sure of it. So"}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "he puts away his core sample and he"}, {"start": "00:20:55", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "starts writing in his notes. And his"}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:21:02", "text": "notes basically say that the next time"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "we just we have to be faster. We have to"}, {"start": "00:21:02", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "figure out a way to collect this thing"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "before it retreats. But there is"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "something down there. I just know it is."}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:13", "text": "Now moving forward a year to 1991, Peter"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "made another dive. It was the same"}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "results. They found a perfect honeycomb"}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "architecture, pristine condition, but"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "nothing inside. He did it again in 93,"}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:28", "text": "but the same thing happened. But Peter"}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "was still accumulating evidence. He was"}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:32", "text": "running water tank tests. He took the"}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "structures he had collected and he"}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "basically replicated them in a tank and"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "ran water through them. And what he"}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "discovered was that the dome-shaped"}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "design of the hexagons was actually"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "self-ventilating. Water would flow"}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:49", "text": "through the tunnels in this very"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "specific way. And the flow pattern, it"}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "was basically ideal for a living"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "creature sitting inside because the"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "water would distribute tiny food"}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:21:59", "text": "particles through all the tunnels"}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:22:01", "text": "evenly. And so now he didn't just have a"}, {"start": "00:21:59", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "theory about the creature existing. He"}, {"start": "00:22:01", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "had a theory about how it would eat. He"}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "had modeled its feeding mechanism. But"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:10", "text": "unfortunately, every core he looked at"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "was still empty. And so now, somewhere"}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:15", "text": "in this period, Peter learns something"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:17", "text": "else that kind of kept him going because"}, {"start": "00:22:15", "end": "00:22:19", "text": "the sediment on the bottom of the"}, {"start": "00:22:17", "end": "00:22:23", "text": "mid-Atlantic ridge accumulates extremely"}, {"start": "00:22:19", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "slowly, like glacially slow. So slow"}, {"start": "00:22:23", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "that a structure built in that mud could"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "be abandoned for hundreds of years and"}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "it would still look pristine. It would"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:34", "text": "still look brand new. And so that's when"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "he developed a new theory that what if"}, {"start": "00:22:34", "end": "00:22:39", "text": "the hexagons he kept collecting were"}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "already empty when he got them? What if"}, {"start": "00:22:39", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "they're being left behind by creatures"}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:44", "text": "that had moved on? I mean, that would"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "mean the living ones had to be somewhere"}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "else, possibly in newer patches or maybe"}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:51", "text": "even patches that were still occupied."}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:54", "text": "He just had to find the right patch."}, {"start": "00:22:51", "end": "00:22:56", "text": "Peter and Sylocker had been continuously"}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:22:58", "text": "corresponding for nearly three decades"}, {"start": "00:22:56", "end": "00:23:00", "text": "at this point. As I had already told"}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:03", "text": "you, they had been writing letters,"}, {"start": "00:23:00", "end": "00:23:05", "text": "publishing more papers, and actively"}, {"start": "00:23:03", "end": "00:23:07", "text": "debating theories. But even by this"}, {"start": "00:23:05", "end": "00:23:10", "text": "point, the one thing they hadn't done"}, {"start": "00:23:07", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "was meet in person to dive on this one"}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:17", "text": "thing together until 2003."}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:19", "text": "Both men scheduled a joint dive on the"}, {"start": "00:23:17", "end": "00:23:21", "text": "Alvin. Now, this was such a big deal"}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:23", "text": "that there was even an IMAX film crew"}, {"start": "00:23:21", "end": "00:23:25", "text": "there that wanted to come along and"}, {"start": "00:23:23", "end": "00:23:28", "text": "document it all because they were"}, {"start": "00:23:25", "end": "00:23:30", "text": "planning on capturing whatever Peter and"}, {"start": "00:23:28", "end": "00:23:33", "text": "Sylocker found. And if they did, this"}, {"start": "00:23:30", "end": "00:23:35", "text": "would have been a huge deal. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:23:33", "end": "00:23:37", "text": "this would have been the culmination of"}, {"start": "00:23:35", "end": "00:23:39", "text": "30 years of work. And so, both men were"}, {"start": "00:23:37", "end": "00:23:42", "text": "convinced that this was it. This was the"}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:44", "text": "day of their 30 years of hypothesizing."}, {"start": "00:23:42", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "It was just it was going to finally"}, {"start": "00:23:44", "end": "00:23:48", "text": "return the answers they needed. they"}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:50", "text": "were going to solve this mystery once"}, {"start": "00:23:48", "end": "00:23:53", "text": "and for all. And so both men climbed"}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:56", "text": "into the Alvin side by side, both"}, {"start": "00:23:53", "end": "00:23:58", "text": "excited, ready to get their answers. And"}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:24:01", "text": "then the Alvin descended just like it"}, {"start": "00:23:58", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "had before. They were anxious, they were"}, {"start": "00:24:01", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "excited, and they were continuously"}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:07", "text": "watching the depth gauge and they're"}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:09", "text": "feeling it get colder and they were just"}, {"start": "00:24:07", "end": "00:24:12", "text": "seeing it get darker. When they finally"}, {"start": "00:24:09", "end": "00:24:15", "text": "get down to the bottom around 3,500"}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:17", "text": "meters, the flood lights, they come on"}, {"start": "00:24:15", "end": "00:24:20", "text": "pretty much right away, they can see a"}, {"start": "00:24:17", "end": "00:24:22", "text": "fresh patch of hexagons. Syllocker gets"}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:24", "text": "an idea and he instructs the pilot. He's"}, {"start": "00:24:22", "end": "00:24:27", "text": "like, \"Use the robotic arm and aim a"}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:29", "text": "concentrated jet of water right at it.\""}, {"start": "00:24:27", "end": "00:24:31", "text": "And so the pilot follows his"}, {"start": "00:24:29", "end": "00:24:33", "text": "instructions. He extends the arm and he"}, {"start": "00:24:31", "end": "00:24:36", "text": "aims the nozzle and he hits the pattern"}, {"start": "00:24:33", "end": "00:24:39", "text": "with a blast of water. And sure enough,"}, {"start": "00:24:36", "end": "00:24:42", "text": "the surface mud is blown away. And what"}, {"start": "00:24:39", "end": "00:24:44", "text": "emerges underneath on camera on IMAX"}, {"start": "00:24:42", "end": "00:24:47", "text": "film, mind you, is a perfect"}, {"start": "00:24:44", "end": "00:24:49", "text": "three-dimensional honeycomb. And it is"}, {"start": "00:24:47", "end": "00:24:52", "text": "so flawless and pristine that it looks"}, {"start": "00:24:49", "end": "00:24:54", "text": "exactly like the fossils. Neither of the"}, {"start": "00:24:52", "end": "00:24:56", "text": "men said anything. They were just so"}, {"start": "00:24:54", "end": "00:24:59", "text": "overcome with excitement and joy. I"}, {"start": "00:24:56", "end": "00:25:02", "text": "mean, they were flabbergasted."}, {"start": "00:24:59", "end": "00:25:04", "text": "After 30 years, this was what the whole"}, {"start": "00:25:02", "end": "00:25:06", "text": "thing had been about. And now it was"}, {"start": "00:25:04", "end": "00:25:09", "text": "alive right in front of them. And so"}, {"start": "00:25:06", "end": "00:25:11", "text": "they direct the robotic arm to lower the"}, {"start": "00:25:09", "end": "00:25:14", "text": "plastic tube. They collect a core. They"}, {"start": "00:25:11", "end": "00:25:16", "text": "then collect another one. And then they"}, {"start": "00:25:14", "end": "00:25:18", "text": "start their ascent to the surface with"}, {"start": "00:25:16", "end": "00:25:21", "text": "the samples. So once they get back, they"}, {"start": "00:25:18", "end": "00:25:24", "text": "rush the cores to the lab. Peter and"}, {"start": "00:25:21", "end": "00:25:26", "text": "Sylocker, they open them up and they"}, {"start": "00:25:24", "end": "00:25:29", "text": "were empty just like every other dive"}, {"start": "00:25:26", "end": "00:25:31", "text": "every other time. In fact, there was no"}, {"start": "00:25:29", "end": "00:25:35", "text": "body or a fragment of a body. There was"}, {"start": "00:25:31", "end": "00:25:36", "text": "not even any biological material."}, {"start": "00:25:35", "end": "00:25:38", "text": "This time they actually had a new"}, {"start": "00:25:36", "end": "00:25:41", "text": "technology that they could use because"}, {"start": "00:25:38", "end": "00:25:43", "text": "they could actually use DNA testing,"}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:44", "text": "which is something that hadn't really"}, {"start": "00:25:43", "end": "00:25:47", "text": "been available to Peter back in the"}, {"start": "00:25:44", "end": "00:25:49", "text": "'90s. But by 2003, it was already"}, {"start": "00:25:47", "end": "00:25:52", "text": "standard. And so they took the samples"}, {"start": "00:25:49", "end": "00:25:54", "text": "and they ran DNA analysis on them. And"}, {"start": "00:25:52", "end": "00:25:57", "text": "the DNA results came back with pretty"}, {"start": "00:25:54", "end": "00:25:59", "text": "much nothing. I mean, there were some"}, {"start": "00:25:57", "end": "00:26:01", "text": "traces of a single cellled organism on"}, {"start": "00:25:59", "end": "00:26:04", "text": "the outer surface, and then there's an"}, {"start": "00:26:01", "end": "00:26:07", "text": "inconclusive hit inside a single burrow,"}, {"start": "00:26:04", "end": "00:26:08", "text": "but really no genetic signal from"}, {"start": "00:26:07", "end": "00:26:11", "text": "anything that could have been on the"}, {"start": "00:26:08", "end": "00:26:13", "text": "architect of the structure. Syllocker"}, {"start": "00:26:11", "end": "00:26:15", "text": "doesn't have an answer either, and he's"}, {"start": "00:26:13", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "the world expert on trace fossils. I"}, {"start": "00:26:15", "end": "00:26:21", "text": "mean, neither of them has an answer. So"}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:23", "text": "6 years later in 2009, Peter and"}, {"start": "00:26:21", "end": "00:26:26", "text": "Syllocker finally published a joint"}, {"start": "00:26:23", "end": "00:26:28", "text": "paper on Paleodiction."}, {"start": "00:26:26", "end": "00:26:30", "text": "And the paper laid out what they knew."}, {"start": "00:26:28", "end": "00:26:33", "text": "It laid out the observations and the"}, {"start": "00:26:30", "end": "00:26:35", "text": "testing and the architecture. Basically"}, {"start": "00:26:33", "end": "00:26:38", "text": "everything was published. But"}, {"start": "00:26:35", "end": "00:26:40", "text": "interestingly, when it came to what the"}, {"start": "00:26:38", "end": "00:26:43", "text": "creature actually was, the two of them"}, {"start": "00:26:40", "end": "00:26:46", "text": "disagreed. Silocker thought that the"}, {"start": "00:26:43", "end": "00:26:48", "text": "hexagons were traces, burrows,"}, {"start": "00:26:46", "end": "00:26:51", "text": "basically, tunnels left behind by some"}, {"start": "00:26:48", "end": "00:26:53", "text": "small animal that had moved through the"}, {"start": "00:26:51", "end": "00:26:56", "text": "sediment. I guess like tracks or like a"}, {"start": "00:26:53", "end": "00:26:59", "text": "footprint. Peter though, he thought that"}, {"start": "00:26:56", "end": "00:27:01", "text": "they were the creature, that they were"}, {"start": "00:26:59", "end": "00:27:04", "text": "the fossilized remains of some organism"}, {"start": "00:27:01", "end": "00:27:06", "text": "in maybe a kind of glass sponge that was"}, {"start": "00:27:04", "end": "00:27:09", "text": "shaped like this, something that had"}, {"start": "00:27:06", "end": "00:27:11", "text": "built itself into this geometry and died"}, {"start": "00:27:09", "end": "00:27:14", "text": "in it. Peter Rona spent the rest of his"}, {"start": "00:27:11", "end": "00:27:17", "text": "life chasing the answer and eventually"}, {"start": "00:27:14", "end": "00:27:19", "text": "he died without ever finding it. Now,"}, {"start": "00:27:17", "end": "00:27:21", "text": "you have to take a step back and really"}, {"start": "00:27:19", "end": "00:27:23", "text": "think about what he had actually been"}, {"start": "00:27:21", "end": "00:27:26", "text": "chasing because when Peter opened that"}, {"start": "00:27:23", "end": "00:27:28", "text": "letter from Germany way back in the 70s"}, {"start": "00:27:26", "end": "00:27:30", "text": "and he explained to Peter that this"}, {"start": "00:27:28", "end": "00:27:32", "text": "fossil had been known to science for"}, {"start": "00:27:30", "end": "00:27:35", "text": "hundreds of years, when Peter first read"}, {"start": "00:27:32", "end": "00:27:38", "text": "that letter, he heard it as that this is"}, {"start": "00:27:35", "end": "00:27:40", "text": "a breakthrough. a world expert is going"}, {"start": "00:27:38", "end": "00:27:42", "text": "to help me solve this. But think about"}, {"start": "00:27:40", "end": "00:27:44", "text": "who Da Vinci was. I mean, he was one of"}, {"start": "00:27:42", "end": "00:27:46", "text": "the most observant human beings who ever"}, {"start": "00:27:44", "end": "00:27:49", "text": "lived. I mean, the guy drew the human"}, {"start": "00:27:46", "end": "00:27:51", "text": "body from the inside. He studied water,"}, {"start": "00:27:49", "end": "00:27:54", "text": "birds. I mean, the way sunlight falls on"}, {"start": "00:27:51", "end": "00:27:56", "text": "a face. He drew it in his notebook. And"}, {"start": "00:27:54", "end": "00:27:59", "text": "he did not know what made it. Silocker"}, {"start": "00:27:56", "end": "00:28:01", "text": "himself, the world's top trace fossil"}, {"start": "00:27:59", "end": "00:28:04", "text": "expert, 50 years in the field, didn't"}, {"start": "00:28:01", "end": "00:28:07", "text": "know. Peter 33 years of diving and"}, {"start": "00:28:04", "end": "00:28:09", "text": "sampling and testing didn't know and he"}, {"start": "00:28:07", "end": "00:28:13", "text": "never found out whatever is making these"}, {"start": "00:28:09", "end": "00:28:17", "text": "patterns was making them many many many"}, {"start": "00:28:13", "end": "00:28:19", "text": "years ago. And since Peter's discovery,"}, {"start": "00:28:17", "end": "00:28:21", "text": "scientists have documented these exact"}, {"start": "00:28:19", "end": "00:28:24", "text": "same hexagonal patterns in every ocean"}, {"start": "00:28:21", "end": "00:28:27", "text": "on Earth. The Atlantic, the Pacific, the"}, {"start": "00:28:24", "end": "00:28:30", "text": "Indian, the Southern, every ocean except"}, {"start": "00:28:27", "end": "00:28:32", "text": "the Arctic. And right now, as you're"}, {"start": "00:28:30", "end": "00:28:34", "text": "listening, on the floor of every ocean"}, {"start": "00:28:32", "end": "00:28:37", "text": "on the planet, something is still making"}, {"start": "00:28:34", "end": "00:28:39", "text": "these patterns. And it has been doing it"}, {"start": "00:28:37", "end": "00:28:43", "text": "for what they suspect is 500 million"}, {"start": "00:28:39", "end": "00:28:45", "text": "years. And all that time in all of human"}, {"start": "00:28:43", "end": "00:28:47", "text": "history, nobody has ever seen what it"}, {"start": "00:28:45", "end": "00:28:50", "text": "is. And because you guys made it this"}, {"start": "00:28:47", "end": "00:28:52", "text": "far, I want you to all comment below"}, {"start": "00:28:50", "end": "00:28:54", "text": "hexagon. So that way I know who made it"}, {"start": "00:28:52", "end": "00:28:56", "text": "to the end and who didn't. 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Charles Hapgood, the"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "lead geocscience researcher working"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "within the same network, produced the"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "crustal displacement theory, which"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "argued that rapid catastrophic shifts"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "explain how Antarctica was once"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "temperate, how the Sahara was once"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "green, and how mammoths were flash"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "frozen with undigested tropical plants"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "in their stomachs. In 1965, Chan Thomas,"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "an aerospace engineer who worked for"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "Macdonald Douglas, published a"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "geological book titled The Adam and Eve"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "story. The CIA subsequently classified"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "it, removing it from public access."}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "After a foyer request, a sanitized"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "57page version was released. Those pages"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "describe a custal shift completing in 6"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "to 12 hours, generating supersonic winds"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "and walls of ocean water 2 mi deep. The"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "flood myth appears in over 200"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "independent cultural traditions"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "worldwide. Emanuel Velikovski"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "hypothesized that these mythologies are"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "not metaphors but eyewitness accounts of"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "real catastrophic events within recorded"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "human history. Events that can be seen"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "in the historic record. The younger dus"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "impact theory suggests that a comet"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "struck around 13,000 years ago, wiping"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "out many species of animal and causing a"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "mini ice age that lasted more than 1,000"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "years. Gobecé was built about 11,600"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "years ago and required engineering"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "precision that archaeologists cannot"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "explain. The Sphinx shows water erosion"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "from rainfall that last occurred in"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "Egypt 10,000 years ago. 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According to"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "their theory, planetary encounters"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "produce massive electrical discharges"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "which have left geological scars still"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "visible today. Many other researchers"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "point towards the sun. Robert M. shock"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "of Boston University makes the case that"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "the abrupt end of the last ice age"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "almost 12,000 years ago was not caused"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "by a comet but was caused by solar"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "outbursts that increased earthquake and"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "volcanic activity fires high radiation"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "levels and massive floods. Among his"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "evidence for this is vitrified stone at"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "Scottish hail forts and on the Giza"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "plateau. Douglas vote has been studying"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "the causes of geomagnetic reversals"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "since 1971. He identified the exact"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "number of years between reversals to be"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "12,68"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "years and argued that during a reversal,"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "the sun novas and causes an ice age. Ben"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "Davidson of Suspicious Observers"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "believes that a geomagnetic excursion"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "event will cause a geographic custal"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "shift at a catastrophic scale and that"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "this cycle repeats about every 12,000"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "years."}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "Astrophysicist Paul Levlet argued that"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "periodic super waves from the galactic"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "center occurring roughly every 12,000 to"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "26,000 years produce a custal torque,"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, and"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "massive solar events. He believed that"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "the zodiac system encodes a warning"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "about these catastrophic super waves and"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "that smaller super waves occur more"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "frequently."}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "Jason Brashier of archaicics.com"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "theorizes that catastrophic reset events"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "occur to some degree every 138 years"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "driven by what he calls the Phoenix"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "phenomenon. 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We have a"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "tremendous opportunity here to move into"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "a new world and for America to be a"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "leader in in creating a a feeling of"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "compassion and and a republic, a true"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "democracy and a true republic around the"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "world uh that begins to attack some of"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "the serious serious problems that"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "humanity is facing."}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "Tell us how is it that you got brought"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "into the profession that you held?"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:37", "text": ">> Well, um in while I was still in"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "business school in 1968,"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "the National Security Agency recruited"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "me and the way that happened was that I"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "was married to a woman whose father was"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "very high up in the Department of the"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "Navy and one of his best friends was"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "very high up in the National Security"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "Agency. So they offered to interview me"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "um for a job and I I went in and I spent"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "a couple of days there especially one"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "very intensive period when I was under"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "lie detector interviews and during that"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "period of time they discovered many"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "weaknesses in me. I have a lot of"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "weaknesses and they identified me as a"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "good candidate for an economic hitman"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "and then uh I was sent into the Amazon"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "rainforest by the Peace Corp. I was I I"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "went in the Peace Corp for a short"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "period of time, three years actually,"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "and went into the Amazon and and worked"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "with people who were very strongly"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "opposed to what the oil companies were"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "doing to the Amazon, indigenous people"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "there in the Amazon. It was really part"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "of my training. While I was still there,"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "a um a vice president from a major"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "international consulting firm came down"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "and who was also had connections with"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "the National Security Agency and knew"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "that they had identified me and"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "recruited me uh for this for this job"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "because economic hitmen work through"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "private corporations, not directly for"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "the government. That keeps everything"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "much more secret and it leaves the"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "government out. The government cannot be"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "implicated as long as this is being done"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "through private consultants. The"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "consulting firms of course are paid by"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "the US government as consulting firms"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "and people like me then our sal my"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "salary was paid by this consulting firm."}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "But it was very clear it was very"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "obvious to me what I was supposed to do"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "and after I agreed to join this this"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "effort I was then trained by an amazing"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "woman who's described in detail in"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "confessions of an economic hitman. Her"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "name is Claudine and uh she was very"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "beautiful, very seductive, extremely"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "talented, knew exactly what to do, knew"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "all the hooks, knew knew all my"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "weaknesses and brought me in. You know,"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "I I I like to think of myself as a good"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "person at heart, and I I grew up in a in"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "a family in New Hampshire that that came"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "from over 300 years of Yankee"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "Calvinists. We have very strong moral"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "values, very principled. And I think I'm"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "a really good case and point of how the"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "system can seduce you. How there's three"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "very powerful drugs in in in our lives"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "these days. Sex, money, and power. And I"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "was seduced by all three of those."}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:15", "text": ">> So when you went into the Peace Corp,"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "was that by was that your own idea or"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "were you nudged in that direction? Well,"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "I'd been recruited by the National"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "Security Agency and while I was still in"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "business school, I happened to go to a"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "Peacecore recruiter speech and was was"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "quite taken by by the recruiter. And I,"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "as I mentioned, grew up in rural New"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "Hampshire. I come from a long line of"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "Yankees who hook Indians and made love"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "with Indians and created children with"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "them. Um, and I'd always been fascinated"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "by the Abnaki tribe, which I, you know,"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "have a little little bit of blood from,"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "and always fascinated by by Indian lore."}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "And so, as I heard this Peacecore"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "recruiter speak afterwards, I went up to"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "him and I said, you know, is there any"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "possibility if I joined the Peace Corp,"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "going to a place like the Amazon and"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "living with people who live as our"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "indigenous people did here two, 300"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "years ago? And he said, absolutely."}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "Nobody wants to go to the Amazon. if you"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "if you volunteer for that, I I think"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "you'll be sent there. And and then I"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "called this man who had recruited me at"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "the National Security Agency and I told"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "him about this and told him I was torn"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "because I wanted to go to the NSA, but I"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "also was intrigued by this. He said,"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "\"Go. We'll make sure that you get uh"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "into the Amazon.\" He said, \"That's where"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "all the action is. These are the people"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "who are opposing our oil companies. We"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "need the Amazon for oil. This will be a"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "great experience for you. When you come"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "out, you can work for us.\""}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "And it was while you were down there"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "that uh one of the representatives from"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "the company that you would be working at"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "showed up,"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:43", "text": ">> right? I'd been there about two years. I"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "I I was I was it's a two-year assignment"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "in the Peace Corp, but I'd extended for"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "a third year because I I really enjoyed"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "it. And um I I was also uh not"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "interested in going to Vietnam, and I"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "had another year before I turned 26 and"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "and was no longer draftable. Um and"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "after the second year, this gentleman"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "showed up. uh he's talked about"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "extensively in the book and and named in"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "the book and uh um told me he'd be"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "interested in hiring me and for a year"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "after that we corresponded. I wrote a"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "lot of letters to him. He asked me a lot"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "of questions about the economy of"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "Ecuador. He was really testing me. He"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "was checking me out. He was seeing where"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "my loyalties were and whether I was able"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "to write books on uh excuse me, reports"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "on the economy of people and and really"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "check out the people. So I did that. I"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "passed that test and and a year later he"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "brought me up to Boston where the"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "headquarters of this company were and"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "recruited me."}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:40", "text": ">> But you had no sense of that at the time"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "that he was feeling you out for a"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "potential job or"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:47", "text": ">> Oh yes. I I I I certainly had an inkling"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "of that. Yeah. It was very exciting to"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "me to think that this was going on"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "because after all, when I when I talked"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "to the the man from the National"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "Security Agency who who originally"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "arranged for my interviews and and told"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "him of my desire to go in the Peace"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "Corps, he encouraged me. He was the one"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "who said, you know, you you know, you"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "could always come to work for us"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "afterwards. So, I I had a I had a real"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "strong sense that that's what was going"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "on."}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:15", "text": ">> Okay. Okay. So you then came back and"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "you joined this company Chaz T Main."}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:19", "text": ">> Correct. We called it Charles. It was"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "spelled C H A S but Chaz T Main. We"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "usually called it Maine just for short."}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "Right. Big. We had about 2,000 employees"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "in Boston. It was what's called a"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "closely held corporation which means"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "basically a partnership. About 5% of the"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "these 2,000 employees owned the company."}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "They were what we call partners. And I"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "became one of those eventually. I became"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "chief economist of that firm. And I"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "ended up having roughly 50 people"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "working for me over over over time."}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:46", "text": ">> And what type of work does that company"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "do?"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:52", "text": ">> Well, interesting."}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "The company called itself an engineering"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "construction firm"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "and we never did any real construction."}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "We never owned uh any equipment. Uh and"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "in fact, we prided ourselves on saying"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "we're objective. We don't need to go"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "into countries and tell them to build"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "big systems because we don't gain"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "anything from it. We're not like Beckull"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "or Hallebertton,"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "Stone and Webster, any of the big"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "construction companies. We don't do"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "that. But the fact of the matter is our"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "job was to convince other countries to"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "take very large loans and then to"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "convince the World Bank and other such"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "organizations to give these countries"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "huge loans, let's say a billion dollars"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "to Ecuador"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "to build big infrastructure projects. uh"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "power plants and transmission lines and"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "distribution systems,"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "ports, highways, industrial parks,"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "things that that didn't benefit anybody"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "except the very wealthy people in those"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "countries who were quite corrupt and we"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "corrupted them. So our job was to"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "convince, let's say, Ecuador to accept a"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "billion dollar loan, convince the World"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "Bank to give Ecuador a billion dollar"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "loan. 90% of that billion dollars would"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "come back to the United States to pay"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "for Hallebertton, Bectal, these kinds of"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "or or the or these types of companies uh"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "to build uh the the infrastructure"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "and then and which would only serve the"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "wealthiest people in those countries and"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "then the country would be stuck with"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "this huge debt which over time would"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "continue to be refinanced and get larger"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "and larger and larger. So that in fact"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "today Ecuador owes more than 50% of its"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "national budget just to pay down its"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "debt service"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "which means there's very little money"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "left to go to pay for the education or"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "health services for the poor people who"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "are the ones who suffered from these"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "projects. It was their rivers that were"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "destroyed as we built hydroelectric"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "plants. It was their land that was"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "destroyed and they're while a few of"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "their people got wealthy as a few of"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "ours did. Uh, and so now they're saddled"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "with this incredible debt that they"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "can't possibly pay."}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "And so we go in and demand our pound of"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "flesh, very much like the mafia. That's"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "why we called ourselves hidden. So"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "today, for example, this is actually"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "what's happened in Ecuador. And and"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "today, um, we need Ecuador's oil. We"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "need the oil from this Amazon area where"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "these indigenous people live that I work"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "with as a Peacecore volunteer. And we"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "tell Ecuador, since you can't pay off"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "your loans, what you need to do is turn"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "over your Amazon to our oil companies."}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "And that's what they're doing. And the"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "indigenous people there, the ones I"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "worked with now, have basically declared"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "war. They said, \"We're not allowing"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "these oil companies to come in. We're"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "going to fight to the very last man if"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "we have to.\" It's a terrible situation."}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "And what it is all about is building"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "empire. We've done this in every country"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "around the world that has resources that"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "we covet. Often this is oil in places"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "like Indonesia, Nigeria, uh Ecuador,"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "Venezuela, Colombia, so many different"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "places. But sometimes it's other"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "resources. For example, in Panama it was"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "the Panama Canal. And in this process,"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "we've managed to create the largest"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "empire in the history of the world. And"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "we've done it largely without military"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "might. It's been done primarily through"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "economic hitmen like me. Now, when the"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "economic hitmen fail, as we've done some"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "as we did in Panama with Omar Trios and"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "in Ecuador many years ago with Haime"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "Raldos when I was there, when we fail,"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "the jackals are sent in. And these are"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "CIA sanctioned troublemakers. They they"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "will try to ferment coups in a country."}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "They'll try to overthrow the president."}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "If they fail, if they're not able to do"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "that, then they'll assassinate him. and"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "Jaime Raldos of of Panama who was not"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "overthrown. So he was assassinated and"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "and Omar Trios of Haime Rolos of"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "Ecuador, Omaros of Panama. Uh the same"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "thing happened. We economic hitmen"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "failed. The jackals went in and"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "assassinated these presidents. It"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "happened with the ende in Chile, Arbans"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "in in Guatemala. That's part of what"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "Vietnam was about. And and when the"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "jackals fail and the economic hitmen"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "both fail as in Iraq, the the final step"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "is for us to send in our young men and"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "women to die and to kin. That's what"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "we're doing in Iraq today. All right. I"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "want to back up a bit and go back to"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "when you're a young man and you're being"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "uh initially uh trained by Claudine."}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "What was involved in that? How long did"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "that take? Cladine's training of me took"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "a number of months. Uh there was about"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "nine months between the time when Maine"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "hired me and I and I and I went on my"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "first assignment to Indonesia. And"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "Claudine was training me during a great"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "deal of that time on and off. All of my"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "training occurred in this uh very uh"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "plush apartment, small apartment, but"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "very plush on Beacon Street in Boston."}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "Our headquarters, Maine's headquarters"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "was the Predential Center in Boston. And"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "this was very close to there. Uh it was"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "never done in our offices. It was very"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "very clandestine. I would spend"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "tremendous amounts of time at Claudine's"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "apartment. And she um she seduced me in"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "every every possible way. I was very"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "seducable. She was gorgeous. She was"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "intelligent. She was sensual. She was an"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "amazing woman. And at the same time, she"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "told me in no uncertain terms what was"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "to be expected of me as an economic"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "hitman. and told me that and she she"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "called it a dirty business and she said,"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "\"We need to make sure that you're"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "totally comfortable doing this and going"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "off and doing this. If you're not"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "comfortable doing it, then don't do it."}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "Don't don't go to Indonesia. Don't take"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "on this assignment because once you're"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "in, you're in for life. You can't turn"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "back.\" So, part of her training of me"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "was to seduce me into it, but at the"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "same time make absolutely certain that I"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "was buying into it, that I was going to"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "be a part of it. And it's your belief"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "that she had had access to the"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "information that the NSA had gotten out"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "of you during the polygraph tests."}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:04", "text": ">> Correct. I have no doubt about that. She"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "knew what my weaknesses were. She zeroed"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "right in on them. I I grew up uh the son"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "of a prep school teacher in in a private"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "school in New Hampshire and u lived on"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "the campus all my life. My dad didn't"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "get paid much money at all. Everything"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "was free. Our house was free. Our food"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "was free. The mo the lawns were mowed"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "for us. The snow plowed. Everything was"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "free. So, we lived a pretty decent life,"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "but I never had any cash. And I was"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "surrounded all my life by boys who came"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "from very, very wealthy families all"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "over the world. And I heard their"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "stories. And then I went to school with"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "these with these boys. And they would go"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "home on vacation to Venezuela, to"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "Caracus, to Beirut, to London, to"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "wherever they were from. And and and and"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "I would be stuck in this little campus"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "all by myself in Tilton, New Hampshire."}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "and uh very lonely and and uh uh I I'd"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "basically been rejected by the town and"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "I'd rejected the town because there was"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "animosity between the townies and the"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "preppies and and I saw myself as a"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "preppy. So some of it was self-imposed"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "but these guys would come back from"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "their vacations with these amazing"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "stories to tell. you know, the debutant"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "balls they had been to and the the"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "orgies and and you know, my life was so"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "boring and I I developed this this"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "complex that I really wanted to excel"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "and I wanted to live that kind of a"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "life. Then I went to Mbury College and"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "much of the same there that that there"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "were a lot of wealthy people at Mbury."}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "So, I had this desire and I was"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "extremely shy around women, incredibly"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "shy around women and pathetically shy"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "around women and and I had this this"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "complex and"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "Claudine knew this. The the NSA had"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "identified this and Claudine appealed to"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "every side of it. You know, she man, you"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "know, just amazing. And then as an"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "economic hitman, I traveled always first"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "class. I rode up in the bump of the"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "747s. You know, I was always first"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "class. Stayed in the best hotels"}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "wherever I went. Sometimes the best"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "suites in the best hotels, ate at the"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "best restaurants, whined and dined"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "around the world by people like the Sha"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "of Iran and the presidents of various"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "countries. I spent time with Robert"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "McNamera, the president of the World"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "Bank. Um, it was quite a life. It was"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "everything I'd ever dreamed about having"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "really. It was it was the realization of"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "my fantasies."}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "So tell us about your first assignment"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "in Indonesia."}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:31", "text": ">> Yes, I was sent to Indonesia as part of"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "a team of 11 men who were there to um"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "design an electrical system for the for"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "Java, the island of Java, which was the"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "most heavily populated piece of real"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "estate in the world at the time. Now,"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "the reason we were going to Indonesia,"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "this is in the early '7s, it was it was"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "pretty obvious by then that Vietnam was"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "going to fall."}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "And the theory was the the domino theory"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "that if Vietnam fell then the rest of"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "the Southeast Asian countries would fall"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:19:57", "text": "too. And we had to stop that. We were"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "losing in Vietnam. We had to figure out"}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "a different way not the military"}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "solution. And Indonesia was seen as the"}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "key to this. Um Indonesia had a lot of"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "oil. So that was important. It had it"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "had huge population of people. It's a"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "very populated country. uh and it had"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "the largest population of uh Muslims of"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:22", "text": "any country in the world. And so there"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "were many good reasons for us to go into"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "Indonesia. So we had we went into"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "Indonesia and did this study and and and"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "and did projections showing that if they"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "built up their electrical system, if"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:35", "text": "they took a huge loan from the Asian"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "Development Bank and the World Bank and"}, {"start": "00:20:35", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "built up their electrical system, their"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "economy would boom over the next two"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "decades. And we arranged for the loan"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:47", "text": "from the banks and basically what we"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "were doing was was bringing Indonesia"}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "into our realm. We were saddling them"}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:53", "text": "with huge debts. We were going to use"}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:55", "text": "our own companies and we did to build"}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "these systems. So the money, you know,"}, {"start": "00:20:55", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "we arranged for the World Bank to make a"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "loan to Indonesia. The money came to our"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "corporations in the United States."}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "Indonesia ended up with all this amazing"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "debt. Now, I I should say, Mike, that um"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "I was the only person on that 11man team"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "that knew uh the subtleties of what we"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "were doing. I was the only economic"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "hitman. I was the economist. I was the"}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:20", "text": "one who did all the forecast. I was the"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "one to arrange the loans. It was that"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "all fell on me. The other men on that"}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:26", "text": "team were designing power plants, were"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:28", "text": "designing the highways to and and and"}, {"start": "00:21:26", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "ports to bring the fuels in to fuel the"}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:32", "text": "power plants, designing transmission"}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "lines, distribution systems, that sort"}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "of work. And throughout the industry"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "when I talk about these other companies,"}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:41", "text": "the Beals, the Hallebertton, the Sona"}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:43", "text": "Websters, the Charles Tains, I want to"}, {"start": "00:21:41", "end": "00:21:45", "text": "and the World Bank, I want to make it"}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "very clear that the majority of the"}, {"start": "00:21:45", "end": "00:21:49", "text": "people working for those organizations"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "are not economic hitmen. They are"}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "technicians. They're engineers. Uh"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "they're doing what they believe is their"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "job of designing systems and but there's"}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "always somebody at the top. There's"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "always somebody in that organization"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:05", "text": "that has a complete understanding of"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:07", "text": "what's going on. It's very few people."}, {"start": "00:22:05", "end": "00:22:09", "text": "Most of these people are in the dark"}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:10", "text": "about this and they shouldn't be in the"}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "dark about it. I mean, it should be"}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "pretty obvious to them what they're"}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:15", "text": "doing. As it should be pretty obvious to"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "all of us in this country where our tax"}, {"start": "00:22:15", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "money is going. It isn't that obvious."}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "The system is an amazingly subtle and an"}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "incredibly effective system."}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:29", "text": "But wasn't there one person on your team"}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:31", "text": "in Indonesia who did seem to have an"}, {"start": "00:22:29", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "inkling of that things weren't entirely"}, {"start": "00:22:31", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:37", "text": ">> Howard Parker. Um,"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:41", "text": "retired executive with the New England"}, {"start": "00:22:37", "end": "00:22:43", "text": "Electric System. Um, yeah, he, you know,"}, {"start": "00:22:41", "end": "00:22:45", "text": "he'd spent his life resisting pressure"}, {"start": "00:22:43", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "from others. And he was a very bitter"}, {"start": "00:22:45", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "man at this point. He hadn't never been"}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:50", "text": "promoted to where he thought he should"}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "be in the New England Electric System."}, {"start": "00:22:50", "end": "00:22:55", "text": "He'd retired and come to work for Maine"}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:57", "text": "as a consultant. and and and he knew"}, {"start": "00:22:55", "end": "00:22:58", "text": "what we we were trying to do. We were"}, {"start": "00:22:57", "end": "00:23:00", "text": "trying to inflate all these forecasts. I"}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:01", "text": "was I was giving the assignment of"}, {"start": "00:23:00", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "making sure that I showed that economic"}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:07", "text": "and and load electric power growth would"}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "grow something around 17% a year which"}, {"start": "00:23:07", "end": "00:23:11", "text": "isn't a huge number when you compound"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:13", "text": "this over 20 25 years. Howard was"}, {"start": "00:23:11", "end": "00:23:15", "text": "determined that it wouldn't be more than"}, {"start": "00:23:13", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "6 or 8% as he as he said that's that's"}, {"start": "00:23:15", "end": "00:23:19", "text": "the norm. And I kept arguing but but"}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:22", "text": "this isn't the norm. this is a country"}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "that's booming and and yeah, I I I talk"}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:26", "text": "in a great deal of detail about Howard"}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:28", "text": "and how angry he was, but from my"}, {"start": "00:23:26", "end": "00:23:31", "text": "standpoint, Howard also Howard was a"}, {"start": "00:23:28", "end": "00:23:33", "text": "bitter old man and he hadn't got what he"}, {"start": "00:23:31", "end": "00:23:35", "text": "wanted out of life and he wasn't going"}, {"start": "00:23:33", "end": "00:23:36", "text": "to be around there long. So, what I"}, {"start": "00:23:35", "end": "00:23:40", "text": "wanted to do is learn all I could from"}, {"start": "00:23:36", "end": "00:23:42", "text": "him and basically take over his job. So,"}, {"start": "00:23:40", "end": "00:23:45", "text": "he wasn't really coming from a highly"}, {"start": "00:23:42", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "principled area in my perception. It"}, {"start": "00:23:45", "end": "00:23:48", "text": "wasn't it wasn't, you know, it was a"}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:50", "text": "question of stubbornness. It was a"}, {"start": "00:23:48", "end": "00:23:52", "text": "question of bitterness and I saw well"}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:53", "text": "I'm a young man on the make and I know"}, {"start": "00:23:52", "end": "00:23:54", "text": "what I'm supposed to do and Claudine's"}, {"start": "00:23:53", "end": "00:23:58", "text": "told me and I just don't want Howard to"}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "get in my way. But at one point I had"}, {"start": "00:23:58", "end": "00:24:02", "text": "this realization that I I all through"}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "this I was going through tremendous"}, {"start": "00:24:02", "end": "00:24:09", "text": "quarams and guilt. I knew that what I"}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:11", "text": "was doing was not the right thing, but I"}, {"start": "00:24:09", "end": "00:24:15", "text": "was being wellrewarded and what I was"}, {"start": "00:24:11", "end": "00:24:18", "text": "doing was legal and in fact praised by,"}, {"start": "00:24:15", "end": "00:24:21", "text": "you know, people like Robert McNamera"}, {"start": "00:24:18", "end": "00:24:24", "text": "and people that I looked up to. And so"}, {"start": "00:24:21", "end": "00:24:25", "text": "at um at one point Howard made it very"}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "clear to me that it didn't matter what I"}, {"start": "00:24:25", "end": "00:24:31", "text": "came up with for an economic forecast."}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:33", "text": "If I came up with 17% economic forecast,"}, {"start": "00:24:31", "end": "00:24:34", "text": "then his load electric load forecast"}, {"start": "00:24:33", "end": "00:24:36", "text": "would have been roughly in the same"}, {"start": "00:24:34", "end": "00:24:38", "text": "area. There's a there's a very strong"}, {"start": "00:24:36", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "correlation between economic growth and"}, {"start": "00:24:38", "end": "00:24:42", "text": "energy growth in any country or any"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:45", "text": "region. And so it was my job to come up"}, {"start": "00:24:42", "end": "00:24:46", "text": "with this high economic forecast and"}, {"start": "00:24:45", "end": "00:24:48", "text": "then he was supposed to match his"}, {"start": "00:24:46", "end": "00:24:49", "text": "electrical load forecast to that. He"}, {"start": "00:24:48", "end": "00:24:51", "text": "made it very clear he wasn't going to do"}, {"start": "00:24:49", "end": "00:24:54", "text": "that. Didn't matter what I came up with,"}, {"start": "00:24:51", "end": "00:24:56", "text": "he would come up with something between"}, {"start": "00:24:54", "end": "00:24:58", "text": "5 and 10%. Which he figured was"}, {"start": "00:24:56", "end": "00:25:00", "text": "reasonable. So suddenly this light went"}, {"start": "00:24:58", "end": "00:25:03", "text": "off and I said, \"My god, I've been"}, {"start": "00:25:00", "end": "00:25:04", "text": "relieved of the guilt. I can do what my"}, {"start": "00:25:03", "end": "00:25:06", "text": "masters have told me to do, what"}, {"start": "00:25:04", "end": "00:25:07", "text": "Claudine's told me to do, what"}, {"start": "00:25:06", "end": "00:25:09", "text": "everybody's telling me to do, come up"}, {"start": "00:25:07", "end": "00:25:10", "text": "with these high economic forecasts, and"}, {"start": "00:25:09", "end": "00:25:12", "text": "he'll come up with the electric load"}, {"start": "00:25:10", "end": "00:25:15", "text": "forecast that are the real ones, the"}, {"start": "00:25:12", "end": "00:25:17", "text": "reasonable ones.\" And so I'm off the"}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:19", "text": "hook. They'll have to follow his"}, {"start": "00:25:17", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "electric load forecasts because that's"}, {"start": "00:25:19", "end": "00:25:22", "text": "what the system would have to be"}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:24", "text": "designed with. and they should follow"}, {"start": "00:25:22", "end": "00:25:26", "text": "the economic forecast, but if he doesn't"}, {"start": "00:25:24", "end": "00:25:29", "text": "follow the economic forecast, then then"}, {"start": "00:25:26", "end": "00:25:31", "text": "it's the burden's off me. So, I felt so"}, {"start": "00:25:29", "end": "00:25:32", "text": "relieved."}, {"start": "00:25:31", "end": "00:25:35", "text": "Of course,"}, {"start": "00:25:32", "end": "00:25:37", "text": "when I got back to Boston, Howard left"}, {"start": "00:25:35", "end": "00:25:39", "text": "before long before me, left Indonesia"}, {"start": "00:25:37", "end": "00:25:42", "text": "because he got very sick. So, they we"}, {"start": "00:25:39", "end": "00:25:44", "text": "had to send him home and he said he had"}, {"start": "00:25:42", "end": "00:25:47", "text": "all the information he could do the rest"}, {"start": "00:25:44", "end": "00:25:49", "text": "of his work from home. When I got home,"}, {"start": "00:25:47", "end": "00:25:51", "text": "my boss,"}, {"start": "00:25:49", "end": "00:25:53", "text": "who later became the president of"}, {"start": "00:25:51", "end": "00:25:55", "text": "Charles T-Main, called me into the"}, {"start": "00:25:53", "end": "00:25:58", "text": "office"}, {"start": "00:25:55", "end": "00:26:00", "text": "and he said, um,"}, {"start": "00:25:58", "end": "00:26:02", "text": "I'm firing Howard Parker. Doesn't matter"}, {"start": "00:26:00", "end": "00:26:06", "text": "what you say here now, what you do, I'm"}, {"start": "00:26:02", "end": "00:26:08", "text": "firing Howard Parker because his"}, {"start": "00:26:06", "end": "00:26:11", "text": "forecasts are unreasonable."}, {"start": "00:26:08", "end": "00:26:14", "text": "I understand, he said to me, that your"}, {"start": "00:26:11", "end": "00:26:16", "text": "economic forecast would justify much"}, {"start": "00:26:14", "end": "00:26:17", "text": "higher load forecasts and that you now"}, {"start": "00:26:16", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "are in a position where you could"}, {"start": "00:26:17", "end": "00:26:22", "text": "develop those load forecasts. Is that"}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:24", "text": "correct? He said, and I said, \"Yes, that"}, {"start": "00:26:22", "end": "00:26:27", "text": "is correct.\" He said, \"Congratulations."}, {"start": "00:26:24", "end": "00:26:29", "text": "You've just been promoted.\""}, {"start": "00:26:27", "end": "00:26:33", "text": "I took it. I gave them the load forecast"}, {"start": "00:26:29", "end": "00:26:35", "text": "they wanted, and my star was bright. I"}, {"start": "00:26:33", "end": "00:26:37", "text": "eventually became a partner in the firm,"}, {"start": "00:26:35", "end": "00:26:41", "text": "chief economist with a big staff,"}, {"start": "00:26:37", "end": "00:26:44", "text": "wonderful people working for me. And"}, {"start": "00:26:41", "end": "00:26:48", "text": "it's all in the book."}, {"start": "00:26:44", "end": "00:26:51", "text": "I was compromised at that point beyond"}, {"start": "00:26:48", "end": "00:26:53", "text": "beyond reconciliation."}, {"start": "00:26:51", "end": "00:26:55", "text": "But you would do things regularly, for"}, {"start": "00:26:53", "end": "00:26:58", "text": "instance, sticking with Indonesia that"}, {"start": "00:26:55", "end": "00:27:00", "text": "would feed your doubt. For instance, if"}, {"start": "00:26:58", "end": "00:27:02", "text": "I remember correctly, in Indonesia, you"}, {"start": "00:27:00", "end": "00:27:07", "text": "went out with a local person there who"}, {"start": "00:27:02", "end": "00:27:10", "text": "took you to meet people who lived there"}, {"start": "00:27:07", "end": "00:27:11", "text": "and they openly challenged in casual"}, {"start": "00:27:10", "end": "00:27:13", "text": "conversation some of the things you were"}, {"start": "00:27:11", "end": "00:27:15", "text": "doing."}, {"start": "00:27:13", "end": "00:27:19", "text": ">> That's correct. I, you know, I've I've"}, {"start": "00:27:15", "end": "00:27:23", "text": "always liked people a lot and originally"}, {"start": "00:27:19", "end": "00:27:25", "text": "I wanted to be a journalist and and um"}, {"start": "00:27:23", "end": "00:27:26", "text": "um I was a Peacecore volunteer. I loved"}, {"start": "00:27:25", "end": "00:27:28", "text": "being with the people. Well, so when I"}, {"start": "00:27:26", "end": "00:27:31", "text": "was in Indonesia, this young man, his"}, {"start": "00:27:28", "end": "00:27:33", "text": "name was Razie, who who who I lived in"}, {"start": "00:27:31", "end": "00:27:35", "text": "the same house as him. He he lived in"}, {"start": "00:27:33", "end": "00:27:37", "text": "the guest house. His mother ran the"}, {"start": "00:27:35", "end": "00:27:38", "text": "guest house where where my our team"}, {"start": "00:27:37", "end": "00:27:40", "text": "lived"}, {"start": "00:27:38", "end": "00:27:41", "text": "and he introduced me to a lot of his"}, {"start": "00:27:40", "end": "00:27:43", "text": "friends and I loved being with them,"}, {"start": "00:27:41", "end": "00:27:45", "text": "these Indonesian people. I learned to"}, {"start": "00:27:43", "end": "00:27:48", "text": "speak Bahasa Indonesia quite well at the"}, {"start": "00:27:45", "end": "00:27:50", "text": "time and so I spent a lot of time with"}, {"start": "00:27:48", "end": "00:27:52", "text": "them and yeah they were quite radical"}, {"start": "00:27:50", "end": "00:27:53", "text": "and and and there's a whole series in"}, {"start": "00:27:52", "end": "00:27:55", "text": "the book about some of the experiences I"}, {"start": "00:27:53", "end": "00:27:58", "text": "had with them going to puppet shows"}, {"start": "00:27:55", "end": "00:28:00", "text": "their politics their anger at what we"}, {"start": "00:27:58", "end": "00:28:02", "text": "were doing in Vietnam"}, {"start": "00:28:00", "end": "00:28:03", "text": "and I agreed with them and they were"}, {"start": "00:28:02", "end": "00:28:05", "text": "quite stunned that I would agree with"}, {"start": "00:28:03", "end": "00:28:07", "text": "them so much and they took me into these"}, {"start": "00:28:05", "end": "00:28:09", "text": "amazing beautiful parts of the city the"}, {"start": "00:28:07", "end": "00:28:11", "text": "old city of Bandung which is in West"}, {"start": "00:28:09", "end": "00:28:12", "text": "Java we were working out of Jakarta and"}, {"start": "00:28:11", "end": "00:28:14", "text": "Bandung"}, {"start": "00:28:12", "end": "00:28:16", "text": "And I was traveling around a lot of"}, {"start": "00:28:14", "end": "00:28:18", "text": "Indonesia."}, {"start": "00:28:16", "end": "00:28:20", "text": "I was always shocked by how how there"}, {"start": "00:28:18", "end": "00:28:22", "text": "were no other foreigners in those parts"}, {"start": "00:28:20", "end": "00:28:22", "text": "of the city. No other foreigners really"}, {"start": "00:28:22", "end": "00:28:24", "text": "hanging out with the with the"}, {"start": "00:28:22", "end": "00:28:26", "text": "Indonesians. All the all there were"}, {"start": "00:28:24", "end": "00:28:28", "text": "quite a few foreigners, oil company"}, {"start": "00:28:26", "end": "00:28:30", "text": "people and and people like like my my"}, {"start": "00:28:28", "end": "00:28:31", "text": "own team. We all hung out at these"}, {"start": "00:28:30", "end": "00:28:33", "text": "private clubs and the fancy restaurants,"}, {"start": "00:28:31", "end": "00:28:36", "text": "but didn't go didn't hang out with the"}, {"start": "00:28:33", "end": "00:28:38", "text": "Indonesians very much. And I did and I"}, {"start": "00:28:36", "end": "00:28:40", "text": "really really enjoyed it. And they"}, {"start": "00:28:38", "end": "00:28:42", "text": "questioned me a lot. And they pointed"}, {"start": "00:28:40", "end": "00:28:45", "text": "out that Arnold Toinby, the great"}, {"start": "00:28:42", "end": "00:28:47", "text": "British historian in 1954 had written a"}, {"start": "00:28:45", "end": "00:28:49", "text": "book called Civilization on Trial, which"}, {"start": "00:28:47", "end": "00:28:52", "text": "which said that in the long run, the"}, {"start": "00:28:49", "end": "00:28:55", "text": "Muslim people are the biggest threat to"}, {"start": "00:28:52", "end": "00:28:57", "text": "capitalism to to the US way. Back in 54,"}, {"start": "00:28:55", "end": "00:28:59", "text": "he said it isn't communism. That's not"}, {"start": "00:28:57", "end": "00:29:01", "text": "ultimately a threat because it's not"}, {"start": "00:28:59", "end": "00:29:03", "text": "spiritual enough. It's not based in any"}, {"start": "00:29:01", "end": "00:29:06", "text": "real strong principles. For a culture to"}, {"start": "00:29:03", "end": "00:29:08", "text": "succeed, it has to be very principled."}, {"start": "00:29:06", "end": "00:29:11", "text": "And he demised the fall of capitalism,"}, {"start": "00:29:08", "end": "00:29:12", "text": "what he called the west, because he said"}, {"start": "00:29:11", "end": "00:29:14", "text": "ultimately we we won't be that"}, {"start": "00:29:12", "end": "00:29:17", "text": "principled either. And that that the"}, {"start": "00:29:14", "end": "00:29:18", "text": "Islamic world would rise up because they"}, {"start": "00:29:17", "end": "00:29:20", "text": "have these strong beliefs in"}, {"start": "00:29:18", "end": "00:29:22", "text": "spirituality and they don't believe in"}, {"start": "00:29:20", "end": "00:29:25", "text": "userie and they don't believe in lending"}, {"start": "00:29:22", "end": "00:29:28", "text": "money and and these young Muslims in"}, {"start": "00:29:25", "end": "00:29:29", "text": "Indonesia pointed that out to me and"}, {"start": "00:29:28", "end": "00:29:32", "text": "said, you know, you you guys are in"}, {"start": "00:29:29", "end": "00:29:34", "text": "trouble. This is back in the early 70s."}, {"start": "00:29:32", "end": "00:29:35", "text": "And they said, you know, the Muslim"}, {"start": "00:29:34", "end": "00:29:37", "text": "world is watching and we don't like what"}, {"start": "00:29:35", "end": "00:29:39", "text": "we're seeing. It was an amazing"}, {"start": "00:29:37", "end": "00:29:41", "text": "forewarning for, you know, if you if you"}, {"start": "00:29:39", "end": "00:29:43", "text": "look at what's going on now in the"}, {"start": "00:29:41", "end": "00:29:45", "text": "world, the Muslims have become, you"}, {"start": "00:29:43", "end": "00:29:47", "text": "know, very powerful and very very angry"}, {"start": "00:29:45", "end": "00:29:50", "text": "at us."}, {"start": "00:29:47", "end": "00:29:53", "text": "And it isn't simply about religion by"}, {"start": "00:29:50", "end": "00:29:55", "text": "any means. The Muslim religion at heart"}, {"start": "00:29:53", "end": "00:29:58", "text": "is not an angry religion. It's a"}, {"start": "00:29:55", "end": "00:30:00", "text": "compassionate re religion. Uh but"}, {"start": "00:29:58", "end": "00:30:03", "text": "they're very angry because they see us"}, {"start": "00:30:00", "end": "00:30:06", "text": "as as basically raping their world,"}, {"start": "00:30:03", "end": "00:30:08", "text": "pillaging it. And you know, they were"}, {"start": "00:30:06", "end": "00:30:10", "text": "always quoting statistics to me. We have"}, {"start": "00:30:08", "end": "00:30:12", "text": "a statistic that we throw around in this"}, {"start": "00:30:10", "end": "00:30:14", "text": "country a lot that 5% of the world's"}, {"start": "00:30:12", "end": "00:30:17", "text": "population, us, the American population,"}, {"start": "00:30:14", "end": "00:30:19", "text": "consumes 25% of the world's resources."}, {"start": "00:30:17", "end": "00:30:20", "text": "Now, that really bothers most of the"}, {"start": "00:30:19", "end": "00:30:22", "text": "rest of the world that we're like this"}, {"start": "00:30:20", "end": "00:30:24", "text": "great octopus that would reaches out"}, {"start": "00:30:22", "end": "00:30:26", "text": "with its tentacles and brings all the"}, {"start": "00:30:24", "end": "00:30:29", "text": "resources into us. And look at the lives"}, {"start": "00:30:26", "end": "00:30:33", "text": "we lead. While 3/4 of the world lives in"}, {"start": "00:30:29", "end": "00:30:34", "text": "destitution, every day 24,000 people of"}, {"start": "00:30:33", "end": "00:30:38", "text": "starvation"}, {"start": "00:30:34", "end": "00:30:40", "text": "and 30,000 children curable diseases"}, {"start": "00:30:38", "end": "00:30:43", "text": "every single day."}, {"start": "00:30:40", "end": "00:30:45", "text": "And the people who live in the places"}, {"start": "00:30:43", "end": "00:30:47", "text": "where that's happening are angry. Angry."}, {"start": "00:30:45", "end": "00:30:50", "text": "And they see as 5% of the world's"}, {"start": "00:30:47", "end": "00:30:52", "text": "population bringing in 25% of its"}, {"start": "00:30:50", "end": "00:30:56", "text": "resources while so many of them live"}, {"start": "00:30:52", "end": "00:30:58", "text": "tragic, destitute, miserable, suffering"}, {"start": "00:30:56", "end": "00:31:02", "text": "lives. Ne needlessly suffering. It"}, {"start": "00:30:58", "end": "00:31:05", "text": "doesn't have to happen. And but these"}, {"start": "00:31:02", "end": "00:31:07", "text": "but the an even more important statistic"}, {"start": "00:31:05", "end": "00:31:11", "text": "I believe is that of that 5% of the"}, {"start": "00:31:07", "end": "00:31:14", "text": "world's population only less than 1%"}, {"start": "00:31:11", "end": "00:31:18", "text": "controls more of America's resources"}, {"start": "00:31:14", "end": "00:31:20", "text": "than the 90% at the bottom. So in fact"}, {"start": "00:31:18", "end": "00:31:22", "text": "25% of the world's resources are being"}, {"start": "00:31:20", "end": "00:31:24", "text": "funneled into this country essentially"}, {"start": "00:31:22", "end": "00:31:28", "text": "to serve 1%"}, {"start": "00:31:24", "end": "00:31:30", "text": "of 5% of the world's population."}, {"start": "00:31:28", "end": "00:31:32", "text": "Terribly small. It's not even a pyramid."}, {"start": "00:31:30", "end": "00:31:34", "text": "It's like a needle going up with a few"}, {"start": "00:31:32", "end": "00:31:36", "text": "very wealthy, very powerful people"}, {"start": "00:31:34", "end": "00:31:38", "text": "sitting on the top. It's created"}, {"start": "00:31:36", "end": "00:31:41", "text": "tremendous resentment around the world."}, {"start": "00:31:38", "end": "00:31:43", "text": "It's what's created our insecurity. I I"}, {"start": "00:31:41", "end": "00:31:44", "text": "would suggest that we will never be"}, {"start": "00:31:43", "end": "00:31:48", "text": "secure in this country, no matter how"}, {"start": "00:31:44", "end": "00:31:51", "text": "many guards we have at our airports, uh,"}, {"start": "00:31:48", "end": "00:31:52", "text": "until we decide that we're going to be a"}, {"start": "00:31:51", "end": "00:31:54", "text": "lot more compassionate with the world."}, {"start": "00:31:52", "end": "00:31:56", "text": "And what what a great thing that is to"}, {"start": "00:31:54", "end": "00:31:58", "text": "do. that will bring us the security that"}, {"start": "00:31:56", "end": "00:32:01", "text": "we need is when we start really opening"}, {"start": "00:31:58", "end": "00:32:04", "text": "ourselves up to the world and welcoming"}, {"start": "00:32:01", "end": "00:32:07", "text": "the world as brothers and sisters who we"}, {"start": "00:32:04", "end": "00:32:09", "text": "want to share the goodies with."}, {"start": "00:32:07", "end": "00:32:12", "text": "And back in those days in Indonesia,"}, {"start": "00:32:09", "end": "00:32:14", "text": "these young Islamic people who who who I"}, {"start": "00:32:12", "end": "00:32:18", "text": "fell in love with and was working with"}, {"start": "00:32:14", "end": "00:32:20", "text": "um saw all this. They anticipated it and"}, {"start": "00:32:18", "end": "00:32:22", "text": "they warned me about it. And uh it was a"}, {"start": "00:32:20", "end": "00:32:27", "text": "very telling experience for me. Very"}, {"start": "00:32:22", "end": "00:32:29", "text": "moving. And yet I was seduced. Sex,"}, {"start": "00:32:27", "end": "00:32:30", "text": "money, and power was coming my way, man."}, {"start": "00:32:29", "end": "00:32:34", "text": "And I was going to I was going to take"}, {"start": "00:32:30", "end": "00:32:36", "text": "it and I did for too long."}, {"start": "00:32:34", "end": "00:32:38", "text": "So what was your next assignment after"}, {"start": "00:32:36", "end": "00:32:41", "text": "that? What was the next big uh project"}, {"start": "00:32:38", "end": "00:32:43", "text": "you were settled with or country?"}, {"start": "00:32:41", "end": "00:32:45", "text": ">> Yeah, after that I I I kind of began"}, {"start": "00:32:43", "end": "00:32:48", "text": "spreading out and and hiring other"}, {"start": "00:32:45", "end": "00:32:51", "text": "people to work with me. So I I did a lot"}, {"start": "00:32:48", "end": "00:32:53", "text": "of work in the next few years in Panama"}, {"start": "00:32:51", "end": "00:32:54", "text": "and I also went back to Indonesia to to"}, {"start": "00:32:53", "end": "00:32:57", "text": "do the same sort of thing we done in"}, {"start": "00:32:54", "end": "00:33:02", "text": "Java up on the island of Suluisi"}, {"start": "00:32:57", "end": "00:33:04", "text": "and Colombia and Iran. So for for three"}, {"start": "00:33:02", "end": "00:33:05", "text": "or four years my time was very much"}, {"start": "00:33:04", "end": "00:33:08", "text": "split between those countries and I"}, {"start": "00:33:05", "end": "00:33:11", "text": "would take other journeys into Egypt and"}, {"start": "00:33:08", "end": "00:33:13", "text": "and Guatemala and many other places and"}, {"start": "00:33:11", "end": "00:33:15", "text": "I and and I began hiring and hiring and"}, {"start": "00:33:13", "end": "00:33:17", "text": "hiring. I mean I I became very popular"}, {"start": "00:33:15", "end": "00:33:18", "text": "within Charles Tain because I was going"}, {"start": "00:33:17", "end": "00:33:22", "text": "along with the system and the World Bank"}, {"start": "00:33:18", "end": "00:33:25", "text": "was loving what I was doing and uh um I"}, {"start": "00:33:22", "end": "00:33:27", "text": "just kept expanding my department. I"}, {"start": "00:33:25", "end": "00:33:29", "text": "became a partner. I was making a lot of"}, {"start": "00:33:27", "end": "00:33:32", "text": "money and uh for the company as well as"}, {"start": "00:33:29", "end": "00:33:35", "text": "for myself. So it involved quite a few"}, {"start": "00:33:32", "end": "00:33:36", "text": "countries but you know the ones that had"}, {"start": "00:33:35", "end": "00:33:40", "text": "the greatest impression on me after"}, {"start": "00:33:36", "end": "00:33:42", "text": "Indonesia were were Panama and Iran and"}, {"start": "00:33:40", "end": "00:33:44", "text": "then Saudi Arabia."}, {"start": "00:33:42", "end": "00:33:46", "text": ">> All right. I want to go into a little"}, {"start": "00:33:44", "end": "00:33:49", "text": "more detail on those. But first you had"}, {"start": "00:33:46", "end": "00:33:51", "text": "spoken about how people on your team"}, {"start": "00:33:49", "end": "00:33:53", "text": "when you were in Indonesia"}, {"start": "00:33:51", "end": "00:33:54", "text": "didn't have a grasp of the bigger"}, {"start": "00:33:53", "end": "00:33:57", "text": "picture of what was going on there. you"}, {"start": "00:33:54", "end": "00:34:00", "text": "were the the single person that did."}, {"start": "00:33:57", "end": "00:34:02", "text": "Once you started expanding your staff,"}, {"start": "00:34:00", "end": "00:34:04", "text": "were other people"}, {"start": "00:34:02", "end": "00:34:06", "text": "who are part of your staff, did they"}, {"start": "00:34:04", "end": "00:34:09", "text": "have the big picture? And then also,"}, {"start": "00:34:06", "end": "00:34:11", "text": "what about people at the World Bank and"}, {"start": "00:34:09", "end": "00:34:13", "text": "these other large organizations that"}, {"start": "00:34:11", "end": "00:34:16", "text": "you're kind of a front company for? Did"}, {"start": "00:34:13", "end": "00:34:18", "text": "they have the big picture?"}, {"start": "00:34:16", "end": "00:34:20", "text": ">> Great question, Mike. And and and and"}, {"start": "00:34:18", "end": "00:34:24", "text": "the question to uh the answer to both of"}, {"start": "00:34:20", "end": "00:34:27", "text": "those questions is essentially no."}, {"start": "00:34:24", "end": "00:34:29", "text": "at the World Bank, the people there were"}, {"start": "00:34:27", "end": "00:34:30", "text": "people that knew and the people at the"}, {"start": "00:34:29", "end": "00:34:34", "text": "top certainly knew, but most of the"}, {"start": "00:34:30", "end": "00:34:36", "text": "people who were analyzing my reports and"}, {"start": "00:34:34", "end": "00:34:39", "text": "uh did not and and and in fact would try"}, {"start": "00:34:36", "end": "00:34:41", "text": "to punch holes in in in my forecast. I"}, {"start": "00:34:39", "end": "00:34:43", "text": "had to defend them very very strongly"}, {"start": "00:34:41", "end": "00:34:46", "text": "which I became very expert at doing and"}, {"start": "00:34:43", "end": "00:34:49", "text": "very good at doing. Um, so these people"}, {"start": "00:34:46", "end": "00:34:51", "text": "were hired basically to pick apart the"}, {"start": "00:34:49", "end": "00:34:53", "text": "reports of consultants, but their bosses"}, {"start": "00:34:51", "end": "00:34:55", "text": "knew they were they were part of the"}, {"start": "00:34:53", "end": "00:34:57", "text": "system. They're always in in all of"}, {"start": "00:34:55", "end": "00:34:59", "text": "these organizations, there are few"}, {"start": "00:34:57", "end": "00:35:01", "text": "people who are the economic hitmen who"}, {"start": "00:34:59", "end": "00:35:03", "text": "know what's going on. And the rest are"}, {"start": "00:35:01", "end": "00:35:04", "text": "pretty much kept in the dark and and"}, {"start": "00:35:03", "end": "00:35:06", "text": "they're doing their jobs, what they see"}, {"start": "00:35:04", "end": "00:35:08", "text": "as their jobs. But in the end, the"}, {"start": "00:35:06", "end": "00:35:10", "text": "economic hitmen went out because we all"}, {"start": "00:35:08", "end": "00:35:12", "text": "know. I mean, so if if you're if you're"}, {"start": "00:35:10", "end": "00:35:15", "text": "a PhD economist who's who who's assigned"}, {"start": "00:35:12", "end": "00:35:17", "text": "to pick apart my study and punch holes"}, {"start": "00:35:15", "end": "00:35:20", "text": "in if you can, you do that. I defend it"}, {"start": "00:35:17", "end": "00:35:21", "text": "strongly. Your boss is on my side"}, {"start": "00:35:20", "end": "00:35:23", "text": "ultimately. He's an economic hitman,"}, {"start": "00:35:21", "end": "00:35:24", "text": "too. So, in the end, I'm going to win."}, {"start": "00:35:23", "end": "00:35:26", "text": "But there's going to be a song and a"}, {"start": "00:35:24", "end": "00:35:28", "text": "dance. So, there's a great paper trail"}, {"start": "00:35:26", "end": "00:35:29", "text": "that shows that you really did your job."}, {"start": "00:35:28", "end": "00:35:31", "text": "You tried to punch holes in me, but in"}, {"start": "00:35:29", "end": "00:35:34", "text": "the end you you became convinced that"}, {"start": "00:35:31", "end": "00:35:37", "text": "everything I was saying was was true,"}, {"start": "00:35:34", "end": "00:35:38", "text": "was fact. And and you get promoted and"}, {"start": "00:35:37", "end": "00:35:40", "text": "you get a good bonus. Well, maybe at the"}, {"start": "00:35:38", "end": "00:35:42", "text": "moral bank it's a different set of bonus"}, {"start": "00:35:40", "end": "00:35:44", "text": "systems, but you uh you know, you get"}, {"start": "00:35:42", "end": "00:35:47", "text": "the goodies too by going along"}, {"start": "00:35:44", "end": "00:35:49", "text": "ultimately. it as far as the people that"}, {"start": "00:35:47", "end": "00:35:53", "text": "I hired is concerned and and and this"}, {"start": "00:35:49", "end": "00:35:56", "text": "became a very important part of my final"}, {"start": "00:35:53", "end": "00:36:00", "text": "decision to leave that world because I"}, {"start": "00:35:56", "end": "00:36:02", "text": "kept hiring young men and women um to go"}, {"start": "00:36:00", "end": "00:36:04", "text": "out and do the same thing I was doing"}, {"start": "00:36:02", "end": "00:36:05", "text": "but I never told them that they were"}, {"start": "00:36:04", "end": "00:36:08", "text": "doing it. They did not get the benefit"}, {"start": "00:36:05", "end": "00:36:09", "text": "that I got of a Claudine who trained"}, {"start": "00:36:08", "end": "00:36:12", "text": "them and said this is what you're going"}, {"start": "00:36:09", "end": "00:36:14", "text": "to do and you're in for life. Instead, I"}, {"start": "00:36:12", "end": "00:36:17", "text": "told them what the results were that I"}, {"start": "00:36:14", "end": "00:36:21", "text": "wanted. If they went off to work in"}, {"start": "00:36:17", "end": "00:36:23", "text": "Saudi Arabia or or Bolivia or wherever I"}, {"start": "00:36:21", "end": "00:36:25", "text": "sent them, I let them know that they"}, {"start": "00:36:23", "end": "00:36:28", "text": "better damn well come back with really"}, {"start": "00:36:25", "end": "00:36:30", "text": "high forecasts, with the kind of numbers"}, {"start": "00:36:28", "end": "00:36:32", "text": "that I wanted to see. If they didn't,"}, {"start": "00:36:30", "end": "00:36:33", "text": "they wouldn't have a job. If they did,"}, {"start": "00:36:32", "end": "00:36:35", "text": "they would get promoted. They would get"}, {"start": "00:36:33", "end": "00:36:38", "text": "good Christmas bonuses. I mean, I"}, {"start": "00:36:35", "end": "00:36:41", "text": "controlled all that. And I also uh was"}, {"start": "00:36:38", "end": "00:36:43", "text": "very manipulative in convincing them. I"}, {"start": "00:36:41", "end": "00:36:45", "text": "mean and at the time I was also"}, {"start": "00:36:43", "end": "00:36:47", "text": "publishing a lot of professional papers."}, {"start": "00:36:45", "end": "00:36:49", "text": "I had a couple of very astute young"}, {"start": "00:36:47", "end": "00:36:52", "text": "people working for me. One was a PhD"}, {"start": "00:36:49", "end": "00:36:54", "text": "from MIT uh in a mathematician. He got"}, {"start": "00:36:52", "end": "00:36:57", "text": "his PhD from MIT when he was 22 years"}, {"start": "00:36:54", "end": "00:37:00", "text": "old. He was a young man from India and"}, {"start": "00:36:57", "end": "00:37:01", "text": "brilliant and he he produced the kind of"}, {"start": "00:37:00", "end": "00:37:03", "text": "results I wanted. We we we wrote these"}, {"start": "00:37:01", "end": "00:37:05", "text": "papers. So we had a whole system in"}, {"start": "00:37:03", "end": "00:37:06", "text": "place of convincing everybody that what"}, {"start": "00:37:05", "end": "00:37:09", "text": "they were doing was right and then"}, {"start": "00:37:06", "end": "00:37:10", "text": "rewarding them or the carrot and stick"}, {"start": "00:37:09", "end": "00:37:11", "text": "stick approach that they got well"}, {"start": "00:37:10", "end": "00:37:12", "text": "rewarded when they did what I wanted and"}, {"start": "00:37:11", "end": "00:37:15", "text": "if they didn't do it they didn't get"}, {"start": "00:37:12", "end": "00:37:17", "text": "rewarded and they might get fired. So"}, {"start": "00:37:15", "end": "00:37:19", "text": "they didn't have the same benefit that I"}, {"start": "00:37:17", "end": "00:37:21", "text": "did of of being told this is what you're"}, {"start": "00:37:19", "end": "00:37:23", "text": "doing and in the end that made me feel"}, {"start": "00:37:21", "end": "00:37:24", "text": "very guilty that I'd manipulated people"}, {"start": "00:37:23", "end": "00:37:26", "text": "like that. It was one of the reasons"}, {"start": "00:37:24", "end": "00:37:28", "text": "that I wanted to get out and one of the"}, {"start": "00:37:26", "end": "00:37:30", "text": "reasons that I wrote the book because"}, {"start": "00:37:28", "end": "00:37:33", "text": "that's typical"}, {"start": "00:37:30", "end": "00:37:34", "text": "throughout these organizations."}, {"start": "00:37:33", "end": "00:37:37", "text": "There are people doing that throughout"}, {"start": "00:37:34", "end": "00:37:40", "text": "the corporate world. I know people who"}, {"start": "00:37:37", "end": "00:37:42", "text": "work for big corporations now that are"}, {"start": "00:37:40", "end": "00:37:44", "text": "outsourcing that have sweat shops in"}, {"start": "00:37:42", "end": "00:37:45", "text": "Asia producing the goods that they're"}, {"start": "00:37:44", "end": "00:37:47", "text": "selling in the United States, paying"}, {"start": "00:37:45", "end": "00:37:49", "text": "people a dollar a day or less. people"}, {"start": "00:37:47", "end": "00:37:51", "text": "who are working in terrible conditions"}, {"start": "00:37:49", "end": "00:37:54", "text": "and the men and women who are in charge"}, {"start": "00:37:51", "end": "00:37:56", "text": "of those operations out of out of places"}, {"start": "00:37:54", "end": "00:37:58", "text": "like Seattle and Portland and San"}, {"start": "00:37:56", "end": "00:38:00", "text": "Francisco and and various other places."}, {"start": "00:37:58", "end": "00:38:02", "text": "These men and women are going into these"}, {"start": "00:38:00", "end": "00:38:04", "text": "countries. They know in their hearts"}, {"start": "00:38:02", "end": "00:38:07", "text": "they know that what they're doing isn't"}, {"start": "00:38:04", "end": "00:38:11", "text": "right. But back home in the headquarters"}, {"start": "00:38:07", "end": "00:38:13", "text": "office is a whole team of psychologists,"}, {"start": "00:38:11", "end": "00:38:16", "text": "lawyers, and others telling them that"}, {"start": "00:38:13", "end": "00:38:17", "text": "what they're doing is fine. It's good."}, {"start": "00:38:16", "end": "00:38:19", "text": "And that that the people who are working"}, {"start": "00:38:17", "end": "00:38:20", "text": "in the sweat shops getting a dollar a"}, {"start": "00:38:19", "end": "00:38:23", "text": "day are better off than as if they"}, {"start": "00:38:20", "end": "00:38:26", "text": "didn't have those jobs, which is is"}, {"start": "00:38:23", "end": "00:38:27", "text": "patently absurd because those people,"}, {"start": "00:38:26", "end": "00:38:29", "text": "many of them lived on subsistence"}, {"start": "00:38:27", "end": "00:38:30", "text": "economies. True, they may never have"}, {"start": "00:38:29", "end": "00:38:32", "text": "made any money before, but they lived"}, {"start": "00:38:30", "end": "00:38:35", "text": "very well on subsistence economies until"}, {"start": "00:38:32", "end": "00:38:38", "text": "these companies came in and created a"}, {"start": "00:38:35", "end": "00:38:40", "text": "local market, a local economy that that"}, {"start": "00:38:38", "end": "00:38:42", "text": "now depends on the dollar. So in a very"}, {"start": "00:38:40", "end": "00:38:44", "text": "few years they've gone from living"}, {"start": "00:38:42", "end": "00:38:45", "text": "subsistence lives and statistically"}, {"start": "00:38:44", "end": "00:38:47", "text": "having no money at all totally"}, {"start": "00:38:45", "end": "00:38:49", "text": "impoverished statistically but their"}, {"start": "00:38:47", "end": "00:38:50", "text": "lives are quite good to now suddenly"}, {"start": "00:38:49", "end": "00:38:52", "text": "having to work for these big"}, {"start": "00:38:50", "end": "00:38:54", "text": "corporations working in these sweat"}, {"start": "00:38:52", "end": "00:38:56", "text": "shops making a dollar a day dependent on"}, {"start": "00:38:54", "end": "00:38:59", "text": "the dollar economy or maybe it's $10 a"}, {"start": "00:38:56", "end": "00:39:03", "text": "day whatever but dependent on the on"}, {"start": "00:38:59", "end": "00:39:05", "text": "that money and and subsistence existence"}, {"start": "00:39:03", "end": "00:39:08", "text": "they had before is gone and then that"}, {"start": "00:39:05", "end": "00:39:12", "text": "company the next year decides that the"}, {"start": "00:39:08", "end": "00:39:14", "text": "labor pool is cheaper someplace else and"}, {"start": "00:39:12", "end": "00:39:16", "text": "they move out and these people who"}, {"start": "00:39:14", "end": "00:39:18", "text": "become dependent on these these"}, {"start": "00:39:16", "end": "00:39:21", "text": "pittences they've been paid by our"}, {"start": "00:39:18", "end": "00:39:24", "text": "companies suddenly don't have even the"}, {"start": "00:39:21", "end": "00:39:26", "text": "pittance and it's a terribly tragic"}, {"start": "00:39:24", "end": "00:39:29", "text": "situation and the men and women who are"}, {"start": "00:39:26", "end": "00:39:32", "text": "the equivalent of the of the corporate"}, {"start": "00:39:29", "end": "00:39:33", "text": "economic hit people who who are doing"}, {"start": "00:39:32", "end": "00:39:35", "text": "this I know them I know a number of them"}, {"start": "00:39:33", "end": "00:39:37", "text": "personally in their hearts they know"}, {"start": "00:39:35", "end": "00:39:39", "text": "what they're doing is wrong but they're"}, {"start": "00:39:37", "end": "00:39:40", "text": "being well rewarded"}, {"start": "00:39:39", "end": "00:39:41", "text": "their families are being taken care of."}, {"start": "00:39:40", "end": "00:39:43", "text": "Someone's patting them on the back"}, {"start": "00:39:41", "end": "00:39:45", "text": "saying, \"Isn't it wonderful that you're"}, {"start": "00:39:43", "end": "00:39:49", "text": "making it possible for these people to"}, {"start": "00:39:45", "end": "00:39:51", "text": "get a dollar a day and they have a whole"}, {"start": "00:39:49", "end": "00:39:53", "text": "team, as I said before, psychologists,"}, {"start": "00:39:51", "end": "00:39:55", "text": "economists, and lawyers telling them"}, {"start": "00:39:53", "end": "00:39:56", "text": "that everything they do is perfectly"}, {"start": "00:39:55", "end": "00:39:59", "text": "good and for the best and for the best"}, {"start": "00:39:56", "end": "00:40:01", "text": "of the world."}, {"start": "00:39:59", "end": "00:40:06", "text": "That's how we build empire.\""}, {"start": "00:40:01", "end": "00:40:08", "text": "So tell us about Panama because it"}, {"start": "00:40:06", "end": "00:40:11", "text": "became evident when you read the book"}, {"start": "00:40:08", "end": "00:40:12", "text": "that you actually ended up having a"}, {"start": "00:40:11", "end": "00:40:14", "text": "friendly relationship with that"}, {"start": "00:40:12", "end": "00:40:16", "text": "country's leader."}, {"start": "00:40:14", "end": "00:40:20", "text": ">> Omaros. Yes. I I I would like to think"}, {"start": "00:40:16", "end": "00:40:22", "text": "of him as a as a good friend. And um you"}, {"start": "00:40:20", "end": "00:40:24", "text": "know, as I think I said earlier, Mike,"}, {"start": "00:40:22", "end": "00:40:26", "text": "sometimes when I when I look at my own"}, {"start": "00:40:24", "end": "00:40:29", "text": "story and I just heard you ask that"}, {"start": "00:40:26", "end": "00:40:30", "text": "question, I'm thinking Omar toos. When I"}, {"start": "00:40:29", "end": "00:40:32", "text": "first went to Panama, his his picture"}, {"start": "00:40:30", "end": "00:40:34", "text": "was up on this billboard and he was a"}, {"start": "00:40:32", "end": "00:40:36", "text": "mythical figure to me. He was probably"}, {"start": "00:40:34", "end": "00:40:38", "text": "going to be up for a Nobel Prize had he"}, {"start": "00:40:36", "end": "00:40:40", "text": "not been assassinated."}, {"start": "00:40:38", "end": "00:40:42", "text": "Um he was in a bigger than one of these"}, {"start": "00:40:40", "end": "00:40:44", "text": "bigger than life people. And and to"}, {"start": "00:40:42", "end": "00:40:46", "text": "think that I spent time with him and met"}, {"start": "00:40:44", "end": "00:40:49", "text": "him, uh as I look back is just pretty"}, {"start": "00:40:46", "end": "00:40:52", "text": "amazing to me. this this this this young"}, {"start": "00:40:49", "end": "00:40:54", "text": "man from rural New Hampshire. My my and"}, {"start": "00:40:52", "end": "00:40:56", "text": "my life it seems unbelievable to me at"}, {"start": "00:40:54", "end": "00:40:58", "text": "times if I hadn't lived it. I'm not"}, {"start": "00:40:56", "end": "00:41:00", "text": "sure, you know, it and as you read the"}, {"start": "00:40:58", "end": "00:41:03", "text": "book, I tried to write it to bring out"}, {"start": "00:41:00", "end": "00:41:05", "text": "some of that feeling. And um it I"}, {"start": "00:41:03", "end": "00:41:08", "text": "sometimes it reads more like a James"}, {"start": "00:41:05", "end": "00:41:10", "text": "Bond novel, I think, than than most than"}, {"start": "00:41:08", "end": "00:41:13", "text": "than the biographies of most economists."}, {"start": "00:41:10", "end": "00:41:16", "text": "But that's the life I I lived. It was"}, {"start": "00:41:13", "end": "00:41:19", "text": "that way. um great food, great booze,"}, {"start": "00:41:16", "end": "00:41:20", "text": "fast women, and uh lots of power, money,"}, {"start": "00:41:19", "end": "00:41:22", "text": "sex,"}, {"start": "00:41:20", "end": "00:41:26", "text": "the whole works, you know, and Omar"}, {"start": "00:41:22", "end": "00:41:29", "text": "Trios was a magnificent man. Um he had"}, {"start": "00:41:26", "end": "00:41:31", "text": "his faults like everybody, but he saw"}, {"start": "00:41:29", "end": "00:41:32", "text": "that clearly what I was going to do. He"}, {"start": "00:41:31", "end": "00:41:34", "text": "invited me to this little bungalow"}, {"start": "00:41:32", "end": "00:41:36", "text": "outside Panama City to have a private"}, {"start": "00:41:34", "end": "00:41:39", "text": "meeting with him and he said, \"Look, you"}, {"start": "00:41:36", "end": "00:41:41", "text": "know, I know what you're doing. I know"}, {"start": "00:41:39", "end": "00:41:43", "text": "the game you guys are playing and I know"}, {"start": "00:41:41", "end": "00:41:44", "text": "what you're going to do is inflate all"}, {"start": "00:41:43", "end": "00:41:46", "text": "these forecasts and you're going to give"}, {"start": "00:41:44", "end": "00:41:49", "text": "me a system I that that that I can use"}, {"start": "00:41:46", "end": "00:41:52", "text": "and and a few of my wealthy friends, but"}, {"start": "00:41:49", "end": "00:41:53", "text": "my country's going to suffer and your"}, {"start": "00:41:52", "end": "00:41:54", "text": "country's going to get rich and you're"}, {"start": "00:41:53", "end": "00:41:56", "text": "going to have a hold on me. What you"}, {"start": "00:41:54", "end": "00:41:59", "text": "really want is my canal, so I'm not"}, {"start": "00:41:56", "end": "00:42:02", "text": "going to let this happen. Um he said,"}, {"start": "00:41:59", "end": "00:42:04", "text": "\"You know, but what what what I will do"}, {"start": "00:42:02", "end": "00:42:09", "text": "is if if you will agree with me to come"}, {"start": "00:42:04", "end": "00:42:11", "text": "in here and and do a study and um you"}, {"start": "00:42:09", "end": "00:42:14", "text": "know, put together a plan that really"}, {"start": "00:42:11", "end": "00:42:16", "text": "helps my people, helps the poorest of"}, {"start": "00:42:14", "end": "00:42:17", "text": "the poor, then I'll see to it that you"}, {"start": "00:42:16", "end": "00:42:19", "text": "and your company get more and more"}, {"start": "00:42:17", "end": "00:42:21", "text": "projects. But you got to be honest. You"}, {"start": "00:42:19", "end": "00:42:23", "text": "got to do good work.\" So basically what"}, {"start": "00:42:21", "end": "00:42:26", "text": "he was telling me is don't be an"}, {"start": "00:42:23", "end": "00:42:28", "text": "economic hitman. be a real be what you"}, {"start": "00:42:26", "end": "00:42:31", "text": "you know truly be what you say you are"}, {"start": "00:42:28", "end": "00:42:34", "text": "and and do a good job at it and I"}, {"start": "00:42:31", "end": "00:42:35", "text": "welcomed this of course and ultimately"}, {"start": "00:42:34", "end": "00:42:38", "text": "so did my company because it got"}, {"start": "00:42:35", "end": "00:42:40", "text": "business but of course uh what Omar"}, {"start": "00:42:38", "end": "00:42:42", "text": "Trios was doing in this process was"}, {"start": "00:42:40", "end": "00:42:45", "text": "define the whole system because the"}, {"start": "00:42:42", "end": "00:42:46", "text": "system is built on an assumption that"}, {"start": "00:42:45", "end": "00:42:49", "text": "the people at the top are all"}, {"start": "00:42:46", "end": "00:42:51", "text": "corruptible and if you find someone at"}, {"start": "00:42:49", "end": "00:42:53", "text": "the top who isn't corruptible then he"}, {"start": "00:42:51", "end": "00:42:56", "text": "can destroy the system not only in that"}, {"start": "00:42:53", "end": "00:42:58", "text": "country but in many other places because"}, {"start": "00:42:56", "end": "00:43:00", "text": "once someone starts to resist and"}, {"start": "00:42:58", "end": "00:43:02", "text": "someone starts to point out the truth"}, {"start": "00:43:00", "end": "00:43:05", "text": "behind the system and the fact that it"}, {"start": "00:43:02", "end": "00:43:08", "text": "can be opposed then everybody in the"}, {"start": "00:43:05", "end": "00:43:09", "text": "system sees a threat and is in trouble."}, {"start": "00:43:08", "end": "00:43:12", "text": "We've watched this happen so many"}, {"start": "00:43:09", "end": "00:43:16", "text": "places. Arbans in Guatemala, Aende in"}, {"start": "00:43:12", "end": "00:43:18", "text": "Chile, uh to in Panama. We've seen it"}, {"start": "00:43:16", "end": "00:43:20", "text": "happen in Africa. We've seen it happen"}, {"start": "00:43:18", "end": "00:43:22", "text": "in Asia, in the Middle East. We've seen"}, {"start": "00:43:20", "end": "00:43:25", "text": "it happen over and over and over again."}, {"start": "00:43:22", "end": "00:43:27", "text": "And these men who who take that stance"}, {"start": "00:43:25", "end": "00:43:28", "text": "are taking their lives in their hand,"}, {"start": "00:43:27", "end": "00:43:32", "text": "literally."}, {"start": "00:43:28", "end": "00:43:35", "text": "Trio successfully ultimately negotiated"}, {"start": "00:43:32", "end": "00:43:37", "text": "a canal treaty with uh President"}, {"start": "00:43:35", "end": "00:43:40", "text": "Carter's administration."}, {"start": "00:43:37", "end": "00:43:43", "text": "The canal treaty passed our our"}, {"start": "00:43:40", "end": "00:43:46", "text": "government our Congress by one vote and"}, {"start": "00:43:43", "end": "00:43:48", "text": "it was very divisive and of course the"}, {"start": "00:43:46", "end": "00:43:51", "text": "the right-wing conservative elements"}, {"start": "00:43:48", "end": "00:43:54", "text": "strongly strongly opposed it. The other"}, {"start": "00:43:51", "end": "00:43:56", "text": "thing that was happening is that Torios"}, {"start": "00:43:54", "end": "00:43:59", "text": "was negotiating with the Japanese to"}, {"start": "00:43:56", "end": "00:44:02", "text": "build a sea level canal. Uh the current"}, {"start": "00:43:59", "end": "00:44:05", "text": "canal is based on locks and they can't"}, {"start": "00:44:02", "end": "00:44:06", "text": "take the largest of of our ships and so"}, {"start": "00:44:05", "end": "00:44:08", "text": "a sea level canal would be able to do"}, {"start": "00:44:06", "end": "00:44:10", "text": "this. So the Japanese were saying that"}, {"start": "00:44:08", "end": "00:44:11", "text": "they would finance it and then of course"}, {"start": "00:44:10", "end": "00:44:15", "text": "if they finance it they would construct"}, {"start": "00:44:11", "end": "00:44:17", "text": "it. Well, this deeply upset uh our big"}, {"start": "00:44:15", "end": "00:44:19", "text": "construction companies. And at that"}, {"start": "00:44:17", "end": "00:44:21", "text": "time, the president of one of those"}, {"start": "00:44:19", "end": "00:44:25", "text": "largest companies was George Schulz. The"}, {"start": "00:44:21", "end": "00:44:28", "text": "senior uh council lawyer on that on that"}, {"start": "00:44:25", "end": "00:44:31", "text": "at at Beto was Casper Weinberger. They"}, {"start": "00:44:28", "end": "00:44:33", "text": "were very insensed that that the Torios"}, {"start": "00:44:31", "end": "00:44:38", "text": "was even talking to the Japanese about"}, {"start": "00:44:33", "end": "00:44:40", "text": "this. Um, after the canal treaty was was"}, {"start": "00:44:38", "end": "00:44:44", "text": "negotiated and Carter then lost the next"}, {"start": "00:44:40", "end": "00:44:46", "text": "election to Reagan, Schultz came out of"}, {"start": "00:44:44", "end": "00:44:49", "text": "being president of Beal and became"}, {"start": "00:44:46", "end": "00:44:52", "text": "Secretary of State. Weinberger left"}, {"start": "00:44:49", "end": "00:44:54", "text": "Bectal and became Secretary of Defense."}, {"start": "00:44:52", "end": "00:44:57", "text": "And the Reagan administration tried to"}, {"start": "00:44:54", "end": "00:45:00", "text": "renegotiate the canal treaty with Trios."}, {"start": "00:44:57", "end": "00:45:02", "text": "He wouldn't do it. They tried to get uh"}, {"start": "00:45:00", "end": "00:45:05", "text": "him to agree to specifics like leaving"}, {"start": "00:45:02", "end": "00:45:07", "text": "our military bases in there. And most"}, {"start": "00:45:05", "end": "00:45:08", "text": "importantly of all, they desperately"}, {"start": "00:45:07", "end": "00:45:11", "text": "tried to get him to stop talking to the"}, {"start": "00:45:08", "end": "00:45:13", "text": "Japanese about a sea level canal. He"}, {"start": "00:45:11", "end": "00:45:16", "text": "refused. He was a very integrous man in"}, {"start": "00:45:13", "end": "00:45:20", "text": "these regards. He absolutely refused."}, {"start": "00:45:16", "end": "00:45:23", "text": "And so one day his Twin Otter plane, the"}, {"start": "00:45:20", "end": "00:45:27", "text": "presidential plane, uh blew up. Um he"}, {"start": "00:45:23", "end": "00:45:29", "text": "was and I I I was waiting for it to"}, {"start": "00:45:27", "end": "00:45:31", "text": "happen. uh this is the way the jackals"}, {"start": "00:45:29", "end": "00:45:33", "text": "do things and there was a lot of"}, {"start": "00:45:31", "end": "00:45:34", "text": "evidence that a tape recorder that he'd"}, {"start": "00:45:33", "end": "00:45:37", "text": "been given before the plane took off was"}, {"start": "00:45:34", "end": "00:45:39", "text": "a bomb. There's no question in my mind"}, {"start": "00:45:37", "end": "00:45:41", "text": "and there's no question in a lot of the"}, {"start": "00:45:39", "end": "00:45:43", "text": "minds of a lot of the investigators"}, {"start": "00:45:41", "end": "00:45:45", "text": "throughout South America people knew"}, {"start": "00:45:43", "end": "00:45:47", "text": "that this was a CIA orchestrated"}, {"start": "00:45:45", "end": "00:45:49", "text": "assassination course it hardly made our"}, {"start": "00:45:47", "end": "00:45:54", "text": "press"}, {"start": "00:45:49", "end": "00:45:57", "text": "and next Noriega took over. Um and Norie"}, {"start": "00:45:54", "end": "00:45:59", "text": "was not an Omar Tos by any means. He he"}, {"start": "00:45:57", "end": "00:46:01", "text": "was a much more corrupt individual. He"}, {"start": "00:45:59", "end": "00:46:05", "text": "had a lot of very unpleasant personal"}, {"start": "00:46:01", "end": "00:46:07", "text": "habits. Uh he was not charismatic, but"}, {"start": "00:46:05", "end": "00:46:09", "text": "he stuck to his guns to a large degree."}, {"start": "00:46:07", "end": "00:46:11", "text": "He too refused to give up negotiating"}, {"start": "00:46:09", "end": "00:46:14", "text": "with the Japanese. He refused to"}, {"start": "00:46:11", "end": "00:46:17", "text": "renegotiate the canal treaty. He refused"}, {"start": "00:46:14", "end": "00:46:18", "text": "to allow the American military bases to"}, {"start": "00:46:17", "end": "00:46:23", "text": "stay. They they left and went to"}, {"start": "00:46:18", "end": "00:46:26", "text": "Ecuador. Um and uh so um as an upshot of"}, {"start": "00:46:23", "end": "00:46:29", "text": "that, of course, we invaded Panama in"}, {"start": "00:46:26", "end": "00:46:32", "text": "1989. 2 to 3,000 Panameanians, innocent"}, {"start": "00:46:29", "end": "00:46:35", "text": "civilians were in the process and"}, {"start": "00:46:32", "end": "00:46:40", "text": "Noriego was taken prisoner and still"}, {"start": "00:46:35", "end": "00:46:40", "text": "sits in a prison in Miami, Florida."}]

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And I'm"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "just amazed that people have fallen for"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "it in the manner that they have in the"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "absence of any proof whatsoever."}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "I mean, they cite hearsay as proof."}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "It's a scam. What they call UFOs, these"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "crafts that fly around in the sky, are"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "real, but they're not piloted by some"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "little green guy from some other planet."}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "The technology is real. It's been kept"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "secret and it's been used to promote"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "this concept that there's an alien"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "threat to this Earth. The most ambitious"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "and unrealistic space project cannot of"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "itself generate a believable external"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "menace. It has been hotly argued that"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "such a menace would offer the last best"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "hope of peace etc. by uniting mankind"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "against the danger of destruction by"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "creatures from other planets or from"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "outer space. Experiments have been"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "proposed to test the credibility of an"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "out of our world invasion threat."}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "Nevertheless, an effective political"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "substitute for war would require"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "alternate enemies, some of which might"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "seem equally far-fetched in the context"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "of the current war system. It may be,"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "for instance, that gross pollution of"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "the environment can eventually replace"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "the possibility of mass destruction by"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "nuclear weapons as the principal"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "substitute for war. Are you beginning to"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "get the message, folks? Poisoning of the"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "air and of the principal sources of food"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "and water supply is already well"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "advanced and at first glance would seem"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "promising in this respect. It"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "constitutes a threat that can be dealt"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "with only through social organization"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "and political power. But from present"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "indications, it will be a generation to"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "a generation and a half before"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "environmental pollution, however severe,"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "will be sufficiently menacing on a"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "global scale to offer a possible basis"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "for a solution."}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "However unlikely some of the possible"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "alternate enemies we have mentioned may"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "seem, we must emphasize that one must be"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "found of credible quality and magnitude"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "if a transition to peace is ever to come"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "about without social disintegration. It"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "is more probable in our judgment that"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "such a threat will have to be invented"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "rather than developed from unknown"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "conditions. Disarmament is no accident."}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "All of these bills in Congress to take"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "away our weapons is no accident. The"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "intentional environmental pollution of"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "our lakes, rivers, streams, oceans,"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "forests, everything is no accident. As"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "you just heard, these things were"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "planned many, many years ago. all the"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "bombardment of the public with movies"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "about flying saucers in the 50s, right"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "after the United Nations Treaty was"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "fined and the UN Participation Act was"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "pushed through Congress and all of the"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "incidents since that have convinced the"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "majority of the American people that"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "flying saucers are real and"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "extraterrestrials"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "exist and that flying saucers are from"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "an extraterrestrial origin. This is"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "being promulgated in many ways by"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "television commercials, in the movies,"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "in the newspapers,"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "by creating incidents either real or"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "imagined. I believe because of my"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "research and because of the extensive"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "documentation that I've found that this"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "whole scenario has been created to give"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "us an artificial alien threat from outer"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "space. During the Reagan administration,"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "he made six speeches. Specifically"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "talked about a threat from outer space"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "by some other species from some other"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "planet. Six, ladies and gentlemen. Why"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "would the president repeat the same"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "thing six times tagged on to the ends of"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "speeches by him? The speech writers did"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "not put that in the speech. Ronald"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "Reagan added it himself. This was a"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "powerful suggestion to implant into the"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "minds of the people of the world that"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "there really is a threat from some other"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "species from some other planet to this"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "earth. Now you people out there have"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "been ignoring the UFO phenomenon for too"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "long. It has all the earmarks of the"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "most successful, most sophisticated mind"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "control operation in the history of the"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "world and you are ignoring it. What"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "better way to implement a plan to bring"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "about a one world government than to"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "create create the possibility in the"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "minds of the people of the world that we"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "are being threatened from some other"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "species from some other planet and do it"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "in a way that if anybody questions it or"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "challenged it or wants to talk about it"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "publicly that they are ridiculed."}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:15", "text": ">> John Lear, welcome to the hour of the"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "time."}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:20", "text": ">> Thanks Bill. Nice to be here."}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:22", "text": ">> Uh, as you can hear, my voice is not too"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "good. So, I'm going to keep my"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "participation in this interview to a"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "minimum. And, uh, I'd like to start out,"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "John, with uh, give us some background."}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "Tell us who you are and uh, where you"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "came from and what you've been doing uh,"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "all your life up to this point in uh, as"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "short a period of time as you can."}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:43", "text": ">> Well, Bill, I uh, I'm an airline"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "captain. I'm uh, 50 years old, the big"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "5o. I've flown uh about 160 different"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "types of aircraft in over 50 different"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "different countries. I'm presently chief"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "pilot for cargo airline here in Nevada."}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "We fly worldwide. Um I held 18 world"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "speed records in the larjet uh including"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "round the round the world speed record"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "in 1966"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "and I'm the only pilot to have ever"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "earned and held every airman certificate"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "issued by the FAA. And uh among these"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "certificates are the airline transport"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "rating, flight instructor, ground"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "instructor, navigator, flight engineer,"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "dispatcher, mechanic, uh control tower"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "operator, parachute rigger, and I hold"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "the PATCO award. That's the professional"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "air traffic controllers association"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "award for outstanding airmanship present"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "in 1968. Uh as you know, I flew uh"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "missions worldwide uh for the CIA and"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "other government agencies. I've flown in"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "Southeast Asia. Uh I flew there between"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "1966 and 1973."}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "And I've had a lot of experience in"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "flying in Europe, the Middle East,"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "Afghanistan, the Far East, Africa, and"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "and both Pacific and Atlantic oceans. Um"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "I flew experimental test flights for the"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "Larjet Corporation uh and other"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "companies. Uh, but I really liked"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "airline flying and uh, as an airline uh,"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "pilot, I was what they call a"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "non-skeetter, which means a pilot that"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "flies for non-scheduled airlines and"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "I've flown for uh, about 20 of those"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "over the past 25 years uh, of my flying"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "commercial flying career which has"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "extended over 32 years. Uh, I went to"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "college uh, and studied industrial"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "design but uh, I didn't complete the uh,"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "the uh, the full course. I went on to uh"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "aviation as a career and um I was the"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "youngest Boeing 707 captain to fly in"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "commercial service when I was 28. I ran"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "for the Nevada State Senate here in uh"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "Nevada."}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "uh was unsuccessful in my bid and as you"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "know uh my dad was William Pair senior"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "who designed uh developed the Larjet"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "executive aircraft the eight track"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "stereo and was the founder of Lair"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "Incorporated which is now Lar Seagler"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "Corporation a large defense uh"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "contractor"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "I've done a lot of writing I've written"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "about airplanes and other subjects I was"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "a Middle East correspondent for Combat"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "Illustrated between 1975"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "and 1976 7 when I was stationed in"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "Beirut with TMA, Transmitterian Airlines"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "and u you know my dad was really"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "interested in in UFOs and used to"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "discuss it a lot uh to the great concern"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "of the Pentagon because he was a uh"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "defense contractor but my interest"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "didn't uh uh come around until oh about"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "1985. And a friend of mine who I had"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "flown in Laos with came through uh"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "Nellis Air Force Base. He was changing"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "from the regular Air Force into the Air"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "National Guard."}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "Called me up, came over and uh we had a"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "few beers and started talking about uh"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "where we'd been since we'd seen each"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "other. And uh I asked him where all he'd"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "been stationed. And one of the places he"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "mentioned was Bentwaters. Now,"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "Bentwaters, as you know, is an Air Force"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "base about 70 mi northeast of London in"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "which we have a few uh uh planes and uh"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "tactical wing station. And this was"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "supposedly a um a place where a saucer"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "had supposedly landed in 1980. And uh I"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "had heard about the incident. So when"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "Greg said, you know, Bentwaters, they"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "said, \"Oh, that's supposedly where that"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "saucer landed in 1980.\" He said, \"No,"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "John, that's supposedly it did.\" did. He"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "said, \"I didn't see it cuz I was"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "confined in quarters, but uh I have a,"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "you know, I know the guys that did see"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "it.\" And he gave me the names of General"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "Gordon Williams and Major Ted Conrad and"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "Colonel Chuck Halt. And I looked at"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "Greg. I said, \"You mean this stuff is"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "real? There are saucers and aliens?\" He"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "says, \"Well, apparently so.\" So, I kind"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "of I thought I knew a lot about secret"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "things and secret going on, but uh this"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "one I had completely missed. So, I spent"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "the next two years kind of researching"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "around, writing letters, uh taking field"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "trips trying to find out if there was"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "such a thing uh as flying saucers and"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "aliens."}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "And uh my my uh trips took me to"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "Arizona, Colorado, New Mexico, um uh"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "California."}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "And uh this was towards the end of 1987."}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "And when I got back, I wrote what became"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "known as the infamous"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "John Leer hypothesis and uh released it"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "to a couple of friends of mine and they"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "released it on a uh BBS and it was"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "apparently downhill from there on. But"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "essentially what I thought I found out"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "was that the government had been uh"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "dealing with extraterrestrials uh since"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "1964"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "and that apparently we did have an"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "agreement with them in which we would uh"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "trade uh we would help them keep their"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "secret of their existence in trade for"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "high level technology"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "and that was the basis of the"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "hypothesis."}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "Uh I'm not sure whether in fact that is"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "is uh what is happening. Uh one of the"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "things I've tried to do is uh file"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "everything but not believe uh anything."}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "As you know uh Robert Anne Wilson says"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "you are a prisoner of your beliefs and"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "I've really found that to be true that"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "if you get stuck in any one single"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "belief uh you're imprisoned at every"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "everything seems to to orient towards"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "that belief. So, I've tried to keep an"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "open mind on on this. Whether in fact"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "there are aliens, I don't know that for"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "a fact. Whether in fact there are"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "extraterrestrial uh vehicles, I don't"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "know that for a fact, but some of the"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "evidence points that way."}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:55", "text": ">> Well, we know for sure that UFOs are"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "real. That's uh that can be proven by a"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "short trip of about 140 miles northn"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "northwest from"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:00", "text": ">> There's no question about that. The"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "question is whether they're"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "extraterrestrial or not."}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:08", "text": ">> That's correct. Uh what what kind of"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "credence can you put in in in into the"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "sources of your information, John? I"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "mean, who are these people?"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:20", "text": ">> Well, you have to realize that uh it's"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "very difficult to uh to establish"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "whether somebody is telling the truth or"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "whether he's a disinformation a"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "disinformation agent. Um, in my"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "particular case, since I am relatively"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "high-profile,"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "uh, and have a a famous name, I'm not"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "sure whether that's a a help or not, but"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "I'm an easy target for disinformation."}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "So, to say that I have, you know, the"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "the best of sources, uh, would not be"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "accurate. I might have the best of"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "disinformation sources,"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "uh, but I do have a variety of sources."}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "Uh, some tell me there are in fact"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "extraterrestrial vehicles up at the test"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "site. Uh, some tell me that there are"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "not. So, what I say is, you know, uh, I"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "try to file everything and and believe"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "nothing."}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:09", "text": ">> Well, my listeners are certainly used to"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "hearing that because my admonition to"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "them is to listen to everyone, read"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "everything, believe nothing until they"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "can verify it for themselves."}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:21", "text": ">> I think that's very sound advice."}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "advice that I try to follow."}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:26", "text": ">> Well, in a in a period of time when"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "there's so much uh disinformation and"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "manipulation in an effort to tear down"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "the sovereign status of nations and"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "bring about a one world government, uh"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "it's difficult at best, even if you"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "spend all of your time digging for the"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "truth to really know when you've reached"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "it. And uh I think everybody had better"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "begin to understand that. Um,"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "John, what what are um uh what are some"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "of the um the more memorable uh moments"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "in your dealings with this UFO business"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "that you can remember? Some of the"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "characters or some of the stories or or"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "maybe we can inject a little bit of"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "humor into this before we get a little"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "more serious."}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:10", "text": ">> Yeah. Uh well, I'm trying to think. I"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "think one of the uh more memorable times"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "was when I first got into this and had"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "read uh a book called Communion and it"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "was very interesting. As a matter of"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "fact, I read it on a flight that uh that"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "I flew from Las Vegas to Cleveland. And"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "when I got to Cleveland, uh I couldn't"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "put the book down. And and after I did"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "uh put it down, I couldn't go to sleep."}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "And for some reason, I felt this was was"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "uh a something real that was going on."}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "And I'd heard of this guy, Bud Hopkins,"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "and uh I was based in New York at the"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "time. So I gave him a call and he said,"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "\"Yeah, come on down.\" And I went down to"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "his apartment in Manhattan. And uh we"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "sat around for about 3 or 4 hours"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "listening to some of the tapes that he"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "had recorded of people who had thought"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "that they had been abducted. Now, you"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "know, whether these were true or not, I"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "don't know, but the the people who were"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "talking certainly felt it was true. Mhm."}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:13", "text": ">> And some of these uh uh stories they"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "told were so poignant uh so uh"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "essentially horrifying of some of the"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "things that happened to them. It just"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "made a real impression of me when I when"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "I was first got into this. It's the"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "first time I heard of these these kinds"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "of stories. And sitting there with Bod"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "was uh um I can't say it was memorable."}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "It sure was. Uh and it made an"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "impression on me. Uh, another of the"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "times was uh I was acquainted with a"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "scientist here in Las Vegas. His name"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "was Bob Lazar who claimed to work at the"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "test site. And uh, one night he took us"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "out to see one of the alleged test"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "flights of these vehicles. He said it"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "was going to fly just after sunset. This"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "was March 22nd, 1989."}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "Uh we went out there, parked uh our"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "vehicle, and sure enough, about 15"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "minutes later, this orange glowing disc"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "rises up from behind the mountains and"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "performs a few maneuvers and then goes"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "back down. I thought that was uh uh"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "pretty spectacular. Uh Bob said it was"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "extraterrestrial. Since I have no way of"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "knowing um whether it was"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "extraterrestrial or man-made, uh you"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "know, I I can't uh really, you know,"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "comment on what it was. It was just"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "spectacular that this thing came up,"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "made no noise uh and flew around uh at"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "uh tremendous speeds and then went back"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "down. That was a pretty memorable"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "moment."}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:37", "text": ">> I Well, I can I can vouch for that. And"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "it is it is memorable when you see it."}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "Uh I've been out there many times and"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "have actually spent weeks in the desert"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "uh filming these things and I've made"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "two video documentaries of these craft"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "actually in flight over the the test"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "site and uh it is amazing to stand there"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "and see them and know that this is a"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "technology that's been completely hidden"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "from the public and it's in the"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "possession of secret agencies of the"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "United States government and uh who"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "cares whether it's extraterrestrial or"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "or man-made. I tend to think that it's"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "man-made myself, but it represents uh a"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "a different science that could possibly"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "benefit mankind"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "um greatly. Uh and I think that it it's"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "a crime to keep this this kind of thing"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "hidden. And they are discshaped and they"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "do things that are incredible. I don't"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "know if you ever witnessed this, John,"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "but I have literally seen them disappear"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "from the sky. I mean, they're not there"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "anymore and then reappear sometimes"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "seconds, sometimes minutes later,"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "sometimes in the same spot, and"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "sometimes uh several miles away. Have"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "you ever witnessed uh that type of be?"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:47", "text": ">> No, I've never seen that myself, but"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "I've talked to enough people who have"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "seen those uh kinds of disappearances"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "and and I hardly agree with you that uh"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "uh we don't know whether that particular"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "disc that I saw was man-made. There"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "certainly are man-made ones that that"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "perform uh uh with equal uh speed and"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "dexterity. And I have reason to believe"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "that we are much we were much further"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "ahead in the late 50s than the public"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "was led to believe when Vanguard was"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "blowing up every other for every flight"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "on the Canaveral pad. I think that we"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "were very far advanced uh in our modes"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "and method of travel. I have reason to"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "believe that that we were on uh the moon"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "uh in the late 50s and uh you know one"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "of the interesting things that Dr."}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "Wernner von Braonn said at his"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "retirement party in the late or in the"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "middle 70s uh was he made a cryptic"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "statement. He said uh it's too bad"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "Vanguard had to be the scapegoat. And I"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "think what he was telling us was that he"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "was part of a program that was so far"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "advanced, but his name was associated uh"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "with Vanguard. Uh and all people"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "remember is that thing kept blowing up"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "on the pad going up 20 ft and exploding"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "and toppling over and and I think that's"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "what he was referring to."}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:09", "text": ">> Well, I think that was to keep the"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "public's attention. Um it's well known"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "amongst those who really do real"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "research. Most researchers or people who"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "call themselves researchers that don't"}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "even know what the word means. Um but"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "there are several references in several"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "uh books and texts uh that are not well"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "known to the public that disclosed the"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "existence of a secret space program that"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "even had a director of space and was"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "administered uh mainly under the Navy"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "Department of the Navy through DARPA,"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "the Defense Advanced Research Projects"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "Agency. And uh the public of course was"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "told that uh that NASA was the only"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "space program when in when in fact uh"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "Eisenhower had established this secret"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "space program by executive order uh in"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "the early 50s. Um what have you learned"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "about that John? uh along the similar uh"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:04", "text": "same similar lines. As a matter of fact,"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "to keep it secret, I think that uh"}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "between 1955 and 1958,"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "it was illegal to mention the word space"}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "uh in any publications in the United"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "States, they were so afraid that the"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "public would find out how further far"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "along they were. And only uh with the"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "advent of Vanguard that were uh these"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "these horrible um examples of our"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "technology were were uh being shown to"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "the public so that they would think that"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "there there was no possible way uh that"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "we could have advanced like we did."}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:38", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:40", "text": ">> And so I I agree with you. There"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "certainly was a secret program going on"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "at that time. Well, what what brings the"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "development of technology really home to"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "me is my great-grandmother who uh who's"}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "no longer living, but I remember as a"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "boy she would tell me stories of her"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "trip across the United States from the"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:21:00", "text": "east coast in a covered wagon. And her"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "first home on the West Texas prairie was"}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "a dugout with a sod roof. And uh she"}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:09", "text": "told me stories of the Indian Wars and"}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:11", "text": "and um all kinds of things. and she"}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "lived to see the development of the"}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "Boeing 707 and all the modern accutrants"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:20", "text": "of our of our society today. And u I was"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:23", "text": "always dumbruck by this. I just could"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:26", "text": "not imagine how people who went through"}, {"start": "00:21:23", "end": "00:21:28", "text": "that much of a transition in technology"}, {"start": "00:21:26", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "in their life could even keep their"}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "sanity much less understand what was"}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "happening. Um your father made a lot of"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "references and I understand that he was"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "on a television show or something. Was"}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:43", "text": "it in the 60s, John? Uh,"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:45", "text": ">> the late 50s, uh, in a press conference,"}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "I think it was from Colombia, is it was"}, {"start": "00:21:45", "end": "00:21:49", "text": "from South America, uh, that flying"}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "saucers are real and they were piloted"}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "by, uh, highly intelligent beings. Is"}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "this the one you're referring to?"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:58", "text": ">> Well, that's one, but the the one I was"}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:21:59", "text": "more specifically referring to was the"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "statement he made on television. Someone"}, {"start": "00:21:59", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "asked him uh, and I think it was on"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:05", "text": "television. I'm not sure, John. correct"}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:09", "text": "me if I'm wrong, but someone asked him"}, {"start": "00:22:05", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "on television um uh where since he was"}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:14", "text": "involved in the defense industrial"}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "establishment uh just exactly where was"}, {"start": "00:22:14", "end": "00:22:19", "text": "the state of technology and what could"}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "we expect to see within the next 5 or 10"}, {"start": "00:22:19", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "years and uh I the the quote that I have"}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "is he said that you would be able to get"}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:28", "text": "into a phone booth in Los Angeles and"}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "step out in New York City."}, {"start": "00:22:28", "end": "00:22:33", "text": ">> Yeah, that's correct. I think that"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "happened in the uh the late 50s. It was"}, {"start": "00:22:33", "end": "00:22:37", "text": "a uh was a television or radio program."}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:39", "text": "I can't remember what."}, {"start": "00:22:37", "end": "00:22:41", "text": ">> Well, isn't that that's a lot of people"}, {"start": "00:22:39", "end": "00:22:43", "text": "don't pay any attention to that, but I"}, {"start": "00:22:41", "end": "00:22:45", "text": "know that this man, your father, was was"}, {"start": "00:22:43", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "on the inside"}, {"start": "00:22:45", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "of the inner circle of the people who"}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:53", "text": "were developing the state-of-the-art of"}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:55", "text": "the technology uh of the world. And uh I"}, {"start": "00:22:53", "end": "00:22:56", "text": "think if he made that statement he was"}, {"start": "00:22:55", "end": "00:22:59", "text": "talking about something that was either"}, {"start": "00:22:56", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "in the state of preliminary development"}, {"start": "00:22:59", "end": "00:23:05", "text": "or may have already been a reality. Uh"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "but of course those of us who served in"}, {"start": "00:23:05", "end": "00:23:10", "text": "the intelligence community uh I was in"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "the office of naval uh intelligence and"}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "you've been connected with the central"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:16", "text": "intelligence agency and the joint chiefs"}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "uh we know that in secret they're at"}, {"start": "00:23:16", "end": "00:23:21", "text": "least 50 to 100 years ahead of anything"}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:23", "text": "that the public sees as the"}, {"start": "00:23:21", "end": "00:23:25", "text": "state-of-the-art of any technology."}, {"start": "00:23:23", "end": "00:23:27", "text": ">> No question about it. No question about"}, {"start": "00:23:25", "end": "00:23:30", "text": "it. And and that's why when people tell"}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:32", "text": "me that we don't have a laser scalpel"}, {"start": "00:23:30", "end": "00:23:34", "text": "that could make surgical cuts like they"}, {"start": "00:23:32", "end": "00:23:37", "text": "find on these mutilated animals that's"}, {"start": "00:23:34", "end": "00:23:39", "text": "portable, uh I just laugh at them. I I I"}, {"start": "00:23:37", "end": "00:23:40", "text": "don't let them know that I'm laughing at"}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:43", "text": "them. They think I'm just laughing"}, {"start": "00:23:40", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "because it's funny. But but uh I'm"}, {"start": "00:23:43", "end": "00:23:47", "text": "laughing because they really tend to"}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:49", "text": "believe that what they see is the"}, {"start": "00:23:47", "end": "00:23:50", "text": "state-of-the-art in the public sector is"}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:53", "text": "really the state-of-the-art of"}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:56", "text": "technology and it's not at all. It's way"}, {"start": "00:23:53", "end": "00:23:58", "text": "behind. Well, certainly if my dad uh"}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "wasn't, and of course we neither one of"}, {"start": "00:23:58", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "us will probably ever know whether he"}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:04", "text": "was directly involved with that uh state"}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:08", "text": "of technology. He certainly had friends"}, {"start": "00:24:04", "end": "00:24:11", "text": "that were uh specifically Hoy Vanenberg"}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:12", "text": "who was original director of the CIA. Uh"}, {"start": "00:24:11", "end": "00:24:14", "text": "used to be around the house all the"}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:18", "text": "time. Jimmy Doolittle who was definitely"}, {"start": "00:24:14", "end": "00:24:19", "text": "connected with the uh SAS program. uh uh"}, {"start": "00:24:18", "end": "00:24:22", "text": "he was sent over to Sweden to"}, {"start": "00:24:19", "end": "00:24:25", "text": "investigate the ghost rockets and uh he"}, {"start": "00:24:22", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "had a very heavy involvement uh in the"}, {"start": "00:24:25", "end": "00:24:30", "text": "later years with uh with the saucer"}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:32", "text": "program. Uh people have asked me if my"}, {"start": "00:24:30", "end": "00:24:35", "text": "dad was involved in anti-gravity"}, {"start": "00:24:32", "end": "00:24:38", "text": "research. Of course, if I was born in"}, {"start": "00:24:35", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "1942 and we're talking about like 55, uh"}, {"start": "00:24:38", "end": "00:24:42", "text": "which would make me 13 or 14 years old,"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:46", "text": "he certainly wouldn't have uh told me"}, {"start": "00:24:42", "end": "00:24:48", "text": "anything. Uh so I would I have no uh"}, {"start": "00:24:46", "end": "00:24:51", "text": "knowledge of that. Uh talking with my"}, {"start": "00:24:48", "end": "00:24:55", "text": "mother, he used to make uh trips to Fort"}, {"start": "00:24:51", "end": "00:24:57", "text": "Wuka. Uh and it seems that Fort Wuka was"}, {"start": "00:24:55", "end": "00:24:59", "text": "the central area for some very"}, {"start": "00:24:57", "end": "00:25:02", "text": "classified"}, {"start": "00:24:59", "end": "00:25:05", "text": "uh uh technology research possibly"}, {"start": "00:25:02", "end": "00:25:08", "text": "having to do with anti-gravity. Uh but"}, {"start": "00:25:05", "end": "00:25:10", "text": "that's as far as I can uh trace it. Now,"}, {"start": "00:25:08", "end": "00:25:12", "text": "if I had have become interested in this"}, {"start": "00:25:10", "end": "00:25:14", "text": "subject just a few years earlier, I"}, {"start": "00:25:12", "end": "00:25:16", "text": "would have been able to talk with the"}, {"start": "00:25:14", "end": "00:25:19", "text": "chief physicist at Leer Incorporated,"}, {"start": "00:25:16", "end": "00:25:22", "text": "who was a guy named Neils Ecklund, uh,"}, {"start": "00:25:19", "end": "00:25:24", "text": "Scandinavian, and a very competent guy."}, {"start": "00:25:22", "end": "00:25:26", "text": ">> Is he still alive, Joe?"}, {"start": "00:25:24", "end": "00:25:28", "text": ">> No, unfortunately, like I say, he died"}, {"start": "00:25:26", "end": "00:25:30", "text": "just before I got into this research or"}, {"start": "00:25:28", "end": "00:25:30", "text": "I would have been able to find out from"}, {"start": "00:25:30", "end": "00:25:31", "text": "him some"}, {"start": "00:25:30", "end": "00:25:34", "text": ">> Oh, I see."}, {"start": "00:25:31", "end": "00:25:39", "text": ">> Really good information. But he passed"}, {"start": "00:25:34", "end": "00:25:39", "text": "away I believe in 1982 or 83."}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:49", "text": "Well, I know that you've had some"}, {"start": "00:25:45", "end": "00:25:51", "text": "contact with some of the more um famous"}, {"start": "00:25:49", "end": "00:25:54", "text": "or infamous, depends upon which way you"}, {"start": "00:25:51", "end": "00:25:55", "text": "look at it, people in the the so-called"}, {"start": "00:25:54", "end": "00:25:57", "text": "UFO"}, {"start": "00:25:55", "end": "00:26:01", "text": "community, which I I I think is a"}, {"start": "00:25:57", "end": "00:26:04", "text": "misnomer. Um"}, {"start": "00:26:01", "end": "00:26:05", "text": "and and a lot of these people who call"}, {"start": "00:26:04", "end": "00:26:08", "text": "themselves eupfologists, which in every"}, {"start": "00:26:05", "end": "00:26:11", "text": "case is self-appointed and requires no"}, {"start": "00:26:08", "end": "00:26:14", "text": "no uh"}, {"start": "00:26:11", "end": "00:26:15", "text": "no requirements, no education."}, {"start": "00:26:14", "end": "00:26:17", "text": ">> That's right."}, {"start": "00:26:15", "end": "00:26:19", "text": ">> Right. Uh what what can you tell me"}, {"start": "00:26:17", "end": "00:26:21", "text": "about some of these people? What can you"}, {"start": "00:26:19", "end": "00:26:24", "text": "tell our listeners?"}, {"start": "00:26:21", "end": "00:26:27", "text": "Well, it just seems that uh uh there's"}, {"start": "00:26:24", "end": "00:26:31", "text": "so many self-appointed researchers who"}, {"start": "00:26:27", "end": "00:26:33", "text": "spew forth uh so much BS about uh so"}, {"start": "00:26:31", "end": "00:26:35", "text": "much stuff that you know I've kind of"}, {"start": "00:26:33", "end": "00:26:38", "text": "kind of gotten out of the the field"}, {"start": "00:26:35", "end": "00:26:41", "text": "myself to the extent that I may give one"}, {"start": "00:26:38", "end": "00:26:44", "text": "or two lectures a year uh that I no"}, {"start": "00:26:41", "end": "00:26:46", "text": "longer as I did at one time believe uh"}, {"start": "00:26:44", "end": "00:26:48", "text": "the public should be told because uh I"}, {"start": "00:26:46", "end": "00:26:50", "text": "don't think they would understand the"}, {"start": "00:26:48", "end": "00:26:52", "text": "the basic the religious ramific"}, {"start": "00:26:50", "end": "00:26:56", "text": "ifications"}, {"start": "00:26:52", "end": "00:26:58", "text": "um of what's going on is uh might"}, {"start": "00:26:56", "end": "00:27:01", "text": "confuse them as as to what is really"}, {"start": "00:26:58", "end": "00:27:03", "text": "going on. And I don't think they they"}, {"start": "00:27:01", "end": "00:27:04", "text": "can sort this out or need to sort it out"}, {"start": "00:27:03", "end": "00:27:06", "text": "on a daily basis."}, {"start": "00:27:04", "end": "00:27:08", "text": ">> Well, that's assuming that"}, {"start": "00:27:06", "end": "00:27:11", "text": "extraterrestrials are a reality, which"}, {"start": "00:27:08", "end": "00:27:12", "text": "they may not be. Um and"}, {"start": "00:27:11", "end": "00:27:16", "text": ">> really may not be."}, {"start": "00:27:12", "end": "00:27:16", "text": ">> Who knows for for real? I've heard many"}, {"start": "00:27:16", "end": "00:27:17", "text": "stories."}, {"start": "00:27:16", "end": "00:27:20", "text": ">> Well, I used to think that they were"}, {"start": "00:27:17", "end": "00:27:21", "text": "real as you well know. I saw documents"}, {"start": "00:27:20", "end": "00:27:23", "text": "when I was in the office of naval"}, {"start": "00:27:21", "end": "00:27:24", "text": "intelligence that said they were real."}, {"start": "00:27:23", "end": "00:27:27", "text": ">> And it's possible that they are. But"}, {"start": "00:27:24", "end": "00:27:29", "text": "there's also stories of uh people who"}, {"start": "00:27:27", "end": "00:27:32", "text": "have been abducted who have caught uh"}, {"start": "00:27:29", "end": "00:27:34", "text": "their supposed aliens taking off masks"}, {"start": "00:27:32", "end": "00:27:38", "text": "or helmets andor helmets"}, {"start": "00:27:34", "end": "00:27:41", "text": ">> and turning into military personnel."}, {"start": "00:27:38", "end": "00:27:46", "text": "Yes, I've also uh run into those people"}, {"start": "00:27:41", "end": "00:27:48", "text": "also. And uh um I've looked into the the"}, {"start": "00:27:46", "end": "00:27:51", "text": "possibility that this whole thing is a"}, {"start": "00:27:48", "end": "00:27:53", "text": "tremendous mind control operation in"}, {"start": "00:27:51", "end": "00:27:55", "text": "order to convince the public of the"}, {"start": "00:27:53", "end": "00:27:57", "text": "world, the mass consciousness of"}, {"start": "00:27:55", "end": "00:27:59", "text": "humanity, that the earth is being"}, {"start": "00:27:57", "end": "00:28:02", "text": "threatened by some other species from"}, {"start": "00:27:59", "end": "00:28:04", "text": "some other planet, which Ronald Reagan"}, {"start": "00:28:02", "end": "00:28:08", "text": "stated in six of his speeches during his"}, {"start": "00:28:04", "end": "00:28:10", "text": "administration. Um which is way too many"}, {"start": "00:28:08", "end": "00:28:12", "text": "times for me to believe that uh the that"}, {"start": "00:28:10", "end": "00:28:16", "text": "that it was real. It's more like just"}, {"start": "00:28:12", "end": "00:28:18", "text": "putting it into people's minds. Uh I've"}, {"start": "00:28:16", "end": "00:28:22", "text": "looked into the development of mind"}, {"start": "00:28:18", "end": "00:28:24", "text": "control techniques and they are so far"}, {"start": "00:28:22", "end": "00:28:27", "text": "advanced that mind control is no longer"}, {"start": "00:28:24", "end": "00:28:29", "text": "experimental. It's fully operational and"}, {"start": "00:28:27", "end": "00:28:31", "text": "uh from what I understand from my"}, {"start": "00:28:29", "end": "00:28:33", "text": "contacts and from what I've been able to"}, {"start": "00:28:31", "end": "00:28:35", "text": "read and the leaks and the the documents"}, {"start": "00:28:33", "end": "00:28:37", "text": "released under the uh Freedom of"}, {"start": "00:28:35", "end": "00:28:39", "text": "Information Act that that no part of"}, {"start": "00:28:37", "end": "00:28:43", "text": "mind control remains experimental"}, {"start": "00:28:39", "end": "00:28:45", "text": "anymore and that they can literally"}, {"start": "00:28:43", "end": "00:28:49", "text": "remove sections of memory as if it never"}, {"start": "00:28:45", "end": "00:28:50", "text": "occurred and put in its place a"}, {"start": "00:28:49", "end": "00:28:52", "text": "different memory as if they're running a"}, {"start": "00:28:50", "end": "00:28:58", "text": "movie in your head. And they can"}, {"start": "00:28:52", "end": "00:29:01", "text": "actually uh put in um suggestions or uh"}, {"start": "00:28:58", "end": "00:29:03", "text": "orders to that this will not come up."}, {"start": "00:29:01", "end": "00:29:06", "text": "They will not remember this until uh"}, {"start": "00:29:03", "end": "00:29:08", "text": "some outside stimulus is encountered and"}, {"start": "00:29:06", "end": "00:29:10", "text": "then the mind is overwhelmed by these"}, {"start": "00:29:08", "end": "00:29:13", "text": "incredible memories that in actual fact"}, {"start": "00:29:10", "end": "00:29:16", "text": "never happened. Um, in particular, I"}, {"start": "00:29:13", "end": "00:29:19", "text": "remember uh reading and studying uh mind"}, {"start": "00:29:16", "end": "00:29:21", "text": "control uh projects by the Office of"}, {"start": "00:29:19", "end": "00:29:24", "text": "Naval Intelligence where they were"}, {"start": "00:29:21", "end": "00:29:27", "text": "actually putting together and ran an"}, {"start": "00:29:24", "end": "00:29:29", "text": "assassination bureau uh for many years."}, {"start": "00:29:27", "end": "00:29:31", "text": "And these people who were actually the"}, {"start": "00:29:29", "end": "00:29:33", "text": "assassins were ordinary people that they"}, {"start": "00:29:31", "end": "00:29:36", "text": "would pick according to some standard"}, {"start": "00:29:33", "end": "00:29:39", "text": "formula put them through the the um a"}, {"start": "00:29:36", "end": "00:29:41", "text": "brainwashing experience uh where they"}, {"start": "00:29:39", "end": "00:29:44", "text": "would implant in their mind the ability"}, {"start": "00:29:41", "end": "00:29:45", "text": "and the desire to kill upon order. And"}, {"start": "00:29:44", "end": "00:29:48", "text": "they would go about their normal"}, {"start": "00:29:45", "end": "00:29:50", "text": "everyday business not even knowing that"}, {"start": "00:29:48", "end": "00:29:52", "text": "they were part of this until the"}, {"start": "00:29:50", "end": "00:29:54", "text": "stimulus was given to them and they were"}, {"start": "00:29:52", "end": "00:29:55", "text": "given an order to carry out an"}, {"start": "00:29:54", "end": "00:29:57", "text": "assassination and they would go and do"}, {"start": "00:29:55", "end": "00:30:00", "text": "this. Uh what do you know about all this"}, {"start": "00:29:57", "end": "00:30:01", "text": "John?"}, {"start": "00:30:00", "end": "00:30:02", "text": ">> Are you there?"}, {"start": "00:30:01", "end": "00:30:04", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:30:02", "end": "00:30:06", "text": ">> What what can you tell us about these"}, {"start": "00:30:04", "end": "00:30:08", "text": "mind control programs?"}, {"start": "00:30:06", "end": "00:30:11", "text": ">> Well, you're 100% re uh correct. It"}, {"start": "00:30:08", "end": "00:30:12", "text": "works just like that. I was reading a"}, {"start": "00:30:11", "end": "00:30:16", "text": "book called Operation Mind Control just"}, {"start": "00:30:12", "end": "00:30:20", "text": "the other day uh in which a guy asked"}, {"start": "00:30:16", "end": "00:30:22", "text": "for people um uh military people who"}, {"start": "00:30:20", "end": "00:30:25", "text": "felt that they had been subject uh to"}, {"start": "00:30:22", "end": "00:30:29", "text": "mind control experiments. And there was"}, {"start": "00:30:25", "end": "00:30:32", "text": "a uh air force um officer who felt that"}, {"start": "00:30:29", "end": "00:30:34", "text": "uh uh he was having some problems in"}, {"start": "00:30:32", "end": "00:30:37", "text": "later life after he retired. And it"}, {"start": "00:30:34", "end": "00:30:40", "text": "evolved from the fact that uh his whole"}, {"start": "00:30:37", "end": "00:30:42", "text": "career uh or at least the 5 years that"}, {"start": "00:30:40", "end": "00:30:45", "text": "he thought he was stationed in Guam"}, {"start": "00:30:42", "end": "00:30:47", "text": "running a weather station. uh when he"}, {"start": "00:30:45", "end": "00:30:50", "text": "retired, he was honorably discharged and"}, {"start": "00:30:47", "end": "00:30:53", "text": "he was shown uh a a whole raft of"}, {"start": "00:30:50", "end": "00:30:56", "text": "commendations and medals that uh he had"}, {"start": "00:30:53", "end": "00:30:59", "text": "earned and there was no explanation for"}, {"start": "00:30:56", "end": "00:31:01", "text": "that. And he said uh uh can I have"}, {"start": "00:30:59", "end": "00:31:03", "text": "those? And they said no, these will be"}, {"start": "00:31:01", "end": "00:31:05", "text": "withheld until uh you need them. And at"}, {"start": "00:31:03", "end": "00:31:08", "text": "that at that time, you know, it will be"}, {"start": "00:31:05", "end": "00:31:11", "text": "explained to whoever needs to see these"}, {"start": "00:31:08", "end": "00:31:13", "text": "uh what exactly happened. So this guy"}, {"start": "00:31:11", "end": "00:31:14", "text": "obviously did a lot more than than he"}, {"start": "00:31:13", "end": "00:31:17", "text": "was aware of"}, {"start": "00:31:14", "end": "00:31:20", "text": ">> uh up at the Nevada test site. Uh"}, {"start": "00:31:17", "end": "00:31:22", "text": "certainly this mind control works uh to"}, {"start": "00:31:20", "end": "00:31:25", "text": "a a great degree whereas people can"}, {"start": "00:31:22", "end": "00:31:27", "text": "remember flying up and flying back but"}, {"start": "00:31:25", "end": "00:31:30", "text": "they can't remember what they did. The"}, {"start": "00:31:27", "end": "00:31:32", "text": "mind control is so advanced uh that it"}, {"start": "00:31:30", "end": "00:31:34", "text": "doesn't uh they have it to the point"}, {"start": "00:31:32", "end": "00:31:36", "text": "where it doesn't bother people when they"}, {"start": "00:31:34", "end": "00:31:38", "text": "come back say to Las Vegas and they"}, {"start": "00:31:36", "end": "00:31:40", "text": "interact with their children and their"}, {"start": "00:31:38", "end": "00:31:42", "text": "wives and lead a normal daily life. They"}, {"start": "00:31:40", "end": "00:31:45", "text": "don't question that they can't remember"}, {"start": "00:31:42", "end": "00:31:47", "text": "what they did. Uh it's it's highly"}, {"start": "00:31:45", "end": "00:31:50", "text": "highly advanced. Uh we were working with"}, {"start": "00:31:47", "end": "00:31:52", "text": "a engineer, a female engineer who worked"}, {"start": "00:31:50", "end": "00:31:54", "text": "with Locky who uh was having just a"}, {"start": "00:31:52", "end": "00:31:56", "text": "little bit of problem because she"}, {"start": "00:31:54", "end": "00:31:58", "text": "couldn't remember a lot of what she did"}, {"start": "00:31:56", "end": "00:32:01", "text": "during the day. Uh and I think that they"}, {"start": "00:31:58", "end": "00:32:03", "text": "were uh not too successful in the mind"}, {"start": "00:32:01", "end": "00:32:05", "text": "control program there because uh she did"}, {"start": "00:32:03", "end": "00:32:07", "text": "realize that there were same things"}, {"start": "00:32:05", "end": "00:32:10", "text": "going on. But it is highly highly"}, {"start": "00:32:07", "end": "00:32:14", "text": "evolved. People would be just shocked to"}, {"start": "00:32:10", "end": "00:32:16", "text": "know how far advanced it has become."}, {"start": "00:32:14", "end": "00:32:18", "text": ">> When I first started my crusade, I guess"}, {"start": "00:32:16", "end": "00:32:23", "text": "that's what you can call it, to try to"}, {"start": "00:32:18", "end": "00:32:25", "text": "uh wake people up. Um I had a tremendous"}, {"start": "00:32:23", "end": "00:32:28", "text": "faith in the American people that all"}, {"start": "00:32:25", "end": "00:32:31", "text": "that hap had to happen was for someone"}, {"start": "00:32:28", "end": "00:32:33", "text": "to open their eyes and and show them"}, {"start": "00:32:31", "end": "00:32:36", "text": "that that the normal everyday world that"}, {"start": "00:32:33", "end": "00:32:37", "text": "they live in is really a fantasy land."}, {"start": "00:32:36", "end": "00:32:41", "text": "and then they would sort of take it from"}, {"start": "00:32:37", "end": "00:32:45", "text": "there and it's not happening. Um I a lot"}, {"start": "00:32:41", "end": "00:32:48", "text": "of people are wakening up. Uh um I have"}, {"start": "00:32:45", "end": "00:32:52", "text": "to give those people credit uh because"}, {"start": "00:32:48", "end": "00:32:55", "text": "uh back in 1988 1987 when I first uh was"}, {"start": "00:32:52", "end": "00:32:58", "text": "looking around in 1988 when I first came"}, {"start": "00:32:55", "end": "00:32:59", "text": "public with what I knew. Uh sometimes I"}, {"start": "00:32:58", "end": "00:33:01", "text": "would travel 1,000 miles to sit in the"}, {"start": "00:32:59", "end": "00:33:03", "text": "living room and talk to three people. If"}, {"start": "00:33:01", "end": "00:33:04", "text": "I could find three people that wanted to"}, {"start": "00:33:03", "end": "00:33:07", "text": "sit in the living room and listen to"}, {"start": "00:33:04", "end": "00:33:09", "text": "what I had to say. And now uh when I go"}, {"start": "00:33:07", "end": "00:33:11", "text": "to a city, sometimes I can fill places"}, {"start": "00:33:09", "end": "00:33:13", "text": "as large as the salt dome uh with people"}, {"start": "00:33:11", "end": "00:33:15", "text": "who are interested in in wanting to know"}, {"start": "00:33:13", "end": "00:33:17", "text": "what's happening. But when you consider"}, {"start": "00:33:15", "end": "00:33:20", "text": "how many people are there and how many"}, {"start": "00:33:17", "end": "00:33:22", "text": "people in the city aren't interested and"}, {"start": "00:33:20", "end": "00:33:24", "text": "don't want to know, then it doesn't look"}, {"start": "00:33:22", "end": "00:33:25", "text": "like such a big accomplishment. Uh do"}, {"start": "00:33:24", "end": "00:33:27", "text": "you think we're going to wake up this"}, {"start": "00:33:25", "end": "00:33:29", "text": "country? Do you think we're going to"}, {"start": "00:33:27", "end": "00:33:30", "text": "affect any kind of a change at all?"}, {"start": "00:33:29", "end": "00:33:32", "text": ">> I don't think so, Bill, but you know, I"}, {"start": "00:33:30", "end": "00:33:36", "text": "applaud the people who go out there and"}, {"start": "00:33:32", "end": "00:33:39", "text": "try. Uh I don't try anymore because I"}, {"start": "00:33:36", "end": "00:33:41", "text": "found that people are satisfied with the"}, {"start": "00:33:39", "end": "00:33:42", "text": "information that they receive reading"}, {"start": "00:33:41", "end": "00:33:45", "text": "the paper in the morning, listening to"}, {"start": "00:33:42", "end": "00:33:48", "text": "Dan Rather on the news at 5:00 and then"}, {"start": "00:33:45", "end": "00:33:50", "text": "watching Wheel of Fortune at 7:30. And"}, {"start": "00:33:48", "end": "00:33:52", "text": "most people are satisfied that they get"}, {"start": "00:33:50", "end": "00:33:53", "text": "about all they need to know from that"}, {"start": "00:33:52", "end": "00:33:56", "text": "kind of information. And it's"}, {"start": "00:33:53", "end": "00:33:58", "text": "discouraging because there's some great"}, {"start": "00:33:56", "end": "00:34:01", "text": "great human beings that would like to to"}, {"start": "00:33:58", "end": "00:34:04", "text": "make a change. But uh I just have to say"}, {"start": "00:34:01", "end": "00:34:05", "text": "that uh that I am not an optimist at"}, {"start": "00:34:04", "end": "00:34:08", "text": "this point."}, {"start": "00:34:05", "end": "00:34:10", "text": ">> Well, I'm I'm slowly getting to that not"}, {"start": "00:34:08", "end": "00:34:12", "text": "an optimist point also. But I have to"}, {"start": "00:34:10", "end": "00:34:15", "text": "keep trying. Every time I look at my"}, {"start": "00:34:12", "end": "00:34:16", "text": "little daughter, uh I can't stop trying"}, {"start": "00:34:15", "end": "00:34:18", "text": "to make this a better world because I"}, {"start": "00:34:16", "end": "00:34:21", "text": "know that if I fail, she's going to be"}, {"start": "00:34:18", "end": "00:34:24", "text": "somebody's property. Uh and that's"}, {"start": "00:34:21", "end": "00:34:25", "text": "what's coming. I'm convinced of it. Um,"}, {"start": "00:34:24", "end": "00:34:29", "text": "everything, all the research that I've"}, {"start": "00:34:25", "end": "00:34:32", "text": "done is shows me that instead of uh"}, {"start": "00:34:29", "end": "00:34:35", "text": "going forward in our evolutionary uh"}, {"start": "00:34:32", "end": "00:34:37", "text": "path, we're we're at a point where we've"}, {"start": "00:34:35", "end": "00:34:40", "text": "reached the highest pinnacle of all"}, {"start": "00:34:37", "end": "00:34:42", "text": "man's striving throughout history uh"}, {"start": "00:34:40", "end": "00:34:44", "text": "where where with the establishment of"}, {"start": "00:34:42", "end": "00:34:47", "text": "this nation, man actually became a"}, {"start": "00:34:44", "end": "00:34:49", "text": "sovereign king in his own right. Uh able"}, {"start": "00:34:47", "end": "00:34:52", "text": "to walk in a divine state of grace on"}, {"start": "00:34:49", "end": "00:34:54", "text": "this earth that God gave us. And no time"}, {"start": "00:34:52", "end": "00:34:56", "text": "in history had that ever been true"}, {"start": "00:34:54", "end": "00:34:59", "text": "before. And it still isn't true today in"}, {"start": "00:34:56", "end": "00:35:00", "text": "any other nation on this earth except"}, {"start": "00:34:59", "end": "00:35:03", "text": "this country, the United States of"}, {"start": "00:35:00", "end": "00:35:07", "text": "America. And what I see in the future is"}, {"start": "00:35:03", "end": "00:35:09", "text": "a step backward back into slavery uh in"}, {"start": "00:35:07", "end": "00:35:11", "text": "a in a totalitarian"}, {"start": "00:35:09", "end": "00:35:13", "text": "socialist world government. And all of"}, {"start": "00:35:11", "end": "00:35:16", "text": "these things that are happening around"}, {"start": "00:35:13", "end": "00:35:20", "text": "us, I see leading us right into that uh"}, {"start": "00:35:16", "end": "00:35:22", "text": "including the election of uh Mr. road"}, {"start": "00:35:20", "end": "00:35:24", "text": "scholar Clinton here"}, {"start": "00:35:22", "end": "00:35:26", "text": ">> is just a continuation"}, {"start": "00:35:24", "end": "00:35:28", "text": "uh along that path"}, {"start": "00:35:26", "end": "00:35:31", "text": ">> correct in that and I wish there was"}, {"start": "00:35:28", "end": "00:35:33", "text": "something we could do but I'm not sure"}, {"start": "00:35:31", "end": "00:35:36", "text": "uh what it is. I certainly applaud your"}, {"start": "00:35:33", "end": "00:35:39", "text": "efforts to to continue on and try and do"}, {"start": "00:35:36", "end": "00:35:41", "text": "something but uh uh I I I've more or"}, {"start": "00:35:39", "end": "00:35:44", "text": "less given up myself. If you could show"}, {"start": "00:35:41", "end": "00:35:46", "text": "me the path of how we could affect the"}, {"start": "00:35:44", "end": "00:35:48", "text": "numbers of people we would have to do in"}, {"start": "00:35:46", "end": "00:35:50", "text": "the short time we have to make a"}, {"start": "00:35:48", "end": "00:35:51", "text": "difference, I would certainly uh rally"}, {"start": "00:35:50", "end": "00:35:54", "text": "behind you."}, {"start": "00:35:51", "end": "00:35:57", "text": ">> Well, time time is short. Uh it's so"}, {"start": "00:35:54", "end": "00:36:00", "text": "short, but uh people call me and they"}, {"start": "00:35:57", "end": "00:36:02", "text": "write me letters and and they"}, {"start": "00:36:00", "end": "00:36:04", "text": "uh one woman wrote me a letter and it"}, {"start": "00:36:02", "end": "00:36:08", "text": "was about six pages long and it was all"}, {"start": "00:36:04", "end": "00:36:11", "text": "about her being upset with me because um"}, {"start": "00:36:08", "end": "00:36:13", "text": "I had said that most Americans are"}, {"start": "00:36:11", "end": "00:36:14", "text": "stupid over the radio. And I use that"}, {"start": "00:36:13", "end": "00:36:16", "text": "term quite often because I found that"}, {"start": "00:36:14", "end": "00:36:18", "text": "most Americans are stupid and the"}, {"start": "00:36:16", "end": "00:36:21", "text": "definition of that word is mentally"}, {"start": "00:36:18", "end": "00:36:22", "text": "crippled. uh in many cases it's not"}, {"start": "00:36:21", "end": "00:36:25", "text": "their fault that they're stupid, but"}, {"start": "00:36:22", "end": "00:36:27", "text": "nevertheless they are. And she was so"}, {"start": "00:36:25", "end": "00:36:31", "text": "upset with that word that I knew that"}, {"start": "00:36:27", "end": "00:36:33", "text": "that uh I had reached her and and had"}, {"start": "00:36:31", "end": "00:36:36", "text": "made her angry enough that maybe she"}, {"start": "00:36:33", "end": "00:36:39", "text": "would begin to to look at it even though"}, {"start": "00:36:36", "end": "00:36:41", "text": "she was voicing great displeasure about"}, {"start": "00:36:39", "end": "00:36:43", "text": "it. It's you see it's my theory that if"}, {"start": "00:36:41", "end": "00:36:45", "text": "I say Americans are stupid over the"}, {"start": "00:36:43", "end": "00:36:47", "text": "radio, only the stupid Americans will"}, {"start": "00:36:45", "end": "00:36:49", "text": "get angry when they hear it."}, {"start": "00:36:47", "end": "00:36:50", "text": "I always preferred to say that they're"}, {"start": "00:36:49", "end": "00:36:52", "text": "ignorant."}, {"start": "00:36:50", "end": "00:36:54", "text": ">> Well, it goes far beyond ignorant, John."}, {"start": "00:36:52", "end": "00:36:55", "text": "Ignorant is when you don't know about"}, {"start": "00:36:54", "end": "00:36:57", "text": "something. You've never had an"}, {"start": "00:36:55", "end": "00:36:58", "text": "opportunity to learn. Nobody taught you."}, {"start": "00:36:57", "end": "00:37:01", "text": ">> Have the information."}, {"start": "00:36:58", "end": "00:37:03", "text": ">> That's right. Stupid is where you have"}, {"start": "00:37:01", "end": "00:37:04", "text": "the information and you don't know how"}, {"start": "00:37:03", "end": "00:37:07", "text": "to put it together. You don't know how"}, {"start": "00:37:04", "end": "00:37:08", "text": "to think originally. You believe what"}, {"start": "00:37:07", "end": "00:37:10", "text": "you're told all the time without"}, {"start": "00:37:08", "end": "00:37:12", "text": "question. And that's where most"}, {"start": "00:37:10", "end": "00:37:16", "text": "Americans are. They don't question"}, {"start": "00:37:12", "end": "00:37:20", "text": "anything, nothing at all. And that is"}, {"start": "00:37:16", "end": "00:37:21", "text": "really bothersome to me."}, {"start": "00:37:20", "end": "00:37:23", "text": ">> They have a free country. They believe"}, {"start": "00:37:21", "end": "00:37:25", "text": "they have a democracy. Most of them"}, {"start": "00:37:23", "end": "00:37:27", "text": "don't even know the difference between a"}, {"start": "00:37:25", "end": "00:37:28", "text": "democracy or a republic. Uh"}, {"start": "00:37:27", "end": "00:37:31", "text": ">> that's correct. And they don't"}, {"start": "00:37:28", "end": "00:37:33", "text": "understand that the increased use of the"}, {"start": "00:37:31", "end": "00:37:35", "text": "word democracy is leading us into"}, {"start": "00:37:33", "end": "00:37:38", "text": "socialism because democracy is just"}, {"start": "00:37:35", "end": "00:37:41", "text": "another word for socialism."}, {"start": "00:37:38", "end": "00:37:43", "text": "It's where everybody has a vote and the"}, {"start": "00:37:41", "end": "00:37:45", "text": "majority get their way and they always"}, {"start": "00:37:43", "end": "00:37:47", "text": "vote themselves. all the benefits until"}, {"start": "00:37:45", "end": "00:37:49", "text": "there's nothing left and a dictator"}, {"start": "00:37:47", "end": "00:37:51", "text": "rises up to take over uh and clear"}, {"start": "00:37:49", "end": "00:37:53", "text": "everything out. And that's that's always"}, {"start": "00:37:51", "end": "00:37:56", "text": "where socialism leads and that's where"}, {"start": "00:37:53", "end": "00:37:58", "text": "we're going uh right now."}, {"start": "00:37:56", "end": "00:38:00", "text": "John, what are you uh what are you"}, {"start": "00:37:58", "end": "00:38:02", "text": "engaged in now? What kind of projects"}, {"start": "00:38:00", "end": "00:38:05", "text": "are are you doing now?"}, {"start": "00:38:02", "end": "00:38:08", "text": ">> Really no projects. I apply at 727 for a"}, {"start": "00:38:05", "end": "00:38:11", "text": "cargo airline. We uh uh have a contract"}, {"start": "00:38:08", "end": "00:38:15", "text": "out of Miami. We run uh fertilized"}, {"start": "00:38:11", "end": "00:38:17", "text": "chickens to uh Valencia. Uh other than"}, {"start": "00:38:15", "end": "00:38:19", "text": "that, I'm working on uh my garden as"}, {"start": "00:38:17", "end": "00:38:21", "text": "usual. You know, when you're here, I"}, {"start": "00:38:19", "end": "00:38:25", "text": "like to have the the greenest lawn on my"}, {"start": "00:38:21", "end": "00:38:27", "text": "block. And uh and I uh like to uh to do"}, {"start": "00:38:25", "end": "00:38:29", "text": "all kinds of gardening projects. Other"}, {"start": "00:38:27", "end": "00:38:31", "text": "than that, it's uh I'm quite heavily"}, {"start": "00:38:29", "end": "00:38:33", "text": "involved in computers. I got involved in"}, {"start": "00:38:31", "end": "00:38:37", "text": "computers a couple years ago and I have"}, {"start": "00:38:33", "end": "00:38:41", "text": "a you know a PC and uh uh it's mostly to"}, {"start": "00:38:37", "end": "00:38:43", "text": "write and also my wife has a uh actor"}, {"start": "00:38:41", "end": "00:38:45", "text": "and actress casting business. We cast"}, {"start": "00:38:43", "end": "00:38:47", "text": "extras here in Las Vegas for the movies"}, {"start": "00:38:45", "end": "00:38:49", "text": "that come from Hollywood. So I"}, {"start": "00:38:47", "end": "00:38:51", "text": "computerized her business and uh I mess"}, {"start": "00:38:49", "end": "00:38:54", "text": "around with that. But uh that's about"}, {"start": "00:38:51", "end": "00:38:57", "text": "the extent of my uh extracurricular"}, {"start": "00:38:54", "end": "00:38:57", "text": "activity."}, {"start": "00:38:57", "end": "00:39:00", "text": ">> Well, what do you foresee for the"}, {"start": "00:38:59", "end": "00:39:02", "text": "immediate future? And you got any"}, {"start": "00:39:00", "end": "00:39:03", "text": "predictions for us?"}, {"start": "00:39:02", "end": "00:39:06", "text": ">> No. As a matter of fact, I'd have to"}, {"start": "00:39:03", "end": "00:39:10", "text": "agree with the German interviewer who"}, {"start": "00:39:06", "end": "00:39:13", "text": "came over here and said that I was a"}, {"start": "00:39:10", "end": "00:39:16", "text": "great researcher but a horrible prophet."}, {"start": "00:39:13", "end": "00:39:18", "text": "Several times I said absolutely within a"}, {"start": "00:39:16", "end": "00:39:21", "text": "year some information is going to come"}, {"start": "00:39:18", "end": "00:39:22", "text": "out. And then I said in 1991"}, {"start": "00:39:21", "end": "00:39:27", "text": "some information was going to come out"}, {"start": "00:39:22", "end": "00:39:27", "text": "and it just never seemed to happen."}]

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Now if you look at uh quantum"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "entanglement and the concepts of the"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "universe being a holographic"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "conscious entity which it is then you"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "start talking about not just material"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "but you're also talking about u other"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "dimensions that are at refined levels of"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "frequencies and vibration. So the speed"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "of light, the speed of electrons, atoms,"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "what have you, all of that would pertain"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "to what we call the 3D"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "three-dimensional."}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "If you were to cross over that in in"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "frequencies,"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "and this is again where you start"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "getting into some very strange WSFM,"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "like I mentioned, phenomenon, then"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "you're talking about other embedded"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "dimensions, but it's not like it's some"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "distant place. It's folded within. So,"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "you know, a a hologram, if you look at a"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "hologram of Marilyn Monroe with her"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "dress blowing up, you know, like that."}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:27", "text": ">> If you were to just zoom in on one"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "little piece of that dress on the edge"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "of the her her her skirt,"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:33", "text": ">> you and zoom in on it, the entire image"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "would be in there. And zoom in again, it"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "be it's holographic."}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "So, you have to kind of get your mind"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "around the cosmos is this conscious"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "quantum hologram. And so there are many"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "many many dimensions not just this plane"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "of three dimension uh that is all"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "infolded within it. So a lot of the"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "confusion happens where everything like"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "something weird like a poltergeist event"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "will be conflated with uh something"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "extraterrestrial. Well it isn't. You"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "know it's it was someone who like in the"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "ER I had this happen once. Some guy that"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "was killed couldn't save him. you know,"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "it was murder and he was angry and at"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "3:00 in the morning, he started taking"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "all the stuff out of the cabinets, but"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "he wasn't there. It was just his spirit,"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "weird stuff. 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So, I'm trying to do some very"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "kind of crude analogies, but"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "the the confusion comes in is that if"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "you're an interstellar capable"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "civilization, which means you're going"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "from point A in the cosmos to here B,"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "it's like if if this were a piece of"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "paper, you're not going a straight line"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "across the paper. 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The mystics would call astral and"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "extraterrestrial technologies. And it's"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "a very interesting intersection."}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "I I I find that the most interesting"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "part of this whole subject, but it"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "quickly you you have to be you go into"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "crazy town way too quickly with a lot of"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "people out there who don't know enough"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "to talk about it intelligently in my"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "opinion. But it's also dangerous. And"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "here's why it's dangerous."}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "those capabilities can be"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "technologically"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "stimulated to occur. It's like the"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "skinwalker ranch."}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "After a certain cell of this covert"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "group got hold of that thing, they"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "started setting up phenomenon there."}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "It's absolutely man-made high-end"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "electronics, but interdimensional."}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "It's like the show Stranger Things. I've"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "never seen it, but it that's based on"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "some weird stuff that went on at Ma on"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "Eastern Long Island, the Monta projects."}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "And we know what those are. 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So, the high end"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "of the WSFM is is this sort of thing,"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "but that can be used in a deceptive"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "indication and warning."}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "It can be used in a way that everyone on"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "planet Earth would think that it's alien"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "and it isn't."}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:59", "text": ">> I see what you mean."}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:00", "text": ">> Okay. So this is the real the real"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "danger in all of this not being"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "disclosed and known particularly by"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "policy makers and the government and"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "Pentagon and all these folks is that"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "they're not going to be able they're"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "going to be so easily gaslit and"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "deceived by people presenting all kinds"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "of phenomena plural as extraterrestrial"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "when it isn't because they have mastered"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "the ability of this what's called stage"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "craft. That's literally what it's called"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "in some circles. Uh and this gets back"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "to this whole question of project blue"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "beam where they could stage but what"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "their capabilities are way beyond what"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "most people think they are. And I began"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "working with some of these geniuses back"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "in the early 90s that I met who in late"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "1950s and60s had figured this out. So"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "the electronics"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "uh and the very high-end electromagnetic"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "field systems that can do this were"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "unpacked pretty well by between 1955 and"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "1965 that a decade."}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:12", "text": ">> So with these with the different"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "dimensions is so there's another"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "dimension in this room right now and we"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "just can't"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:19", "text": ">> within this room folded it's infoldment"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "it's quantum entanglement."}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "So you know what Einstein called the"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "spooky effect you know where the same"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "particle be in two places at once."}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:32", "text": ">> But but visualize that uh at every point"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "in space and time at this level of"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "quantum entanglement you have access to"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "any other point in space and time but"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "also these other dimensions up to and"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "including the the most rarified what"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "some people would call the the conscious"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "being the unbounded consciousness. It's"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "all folded within this in what I call"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "the real cosmology"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "uh understanding the cosmology which is"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "way beyond astrophysics current"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "astrophysics"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "but but I think that's the part of this"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "where when you start experimenting with"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "and and reverse engineering an"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "extraterrestrial vehicle their"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "communication systems are not based on"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "the speed of light like our cell phones"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "right or video they're based on this"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "understanding you know the cosmos"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "because they've lived for millennia in"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "that understanding and so this is why"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "you know we talk about the fact that"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "they have technologies that interface"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "with directed thought I call it uh"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "technology assisted consciousness and"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "consciousness that assists the"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "technology so they can interface"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "bioelectric field and thought and they"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "navigate the spacecraft and I think the"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "part of it that we're hearing from"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "people inside the administration is that"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "they're being advised not to release the"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "information related to the man-made"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "UFOs, which is of course the predominant"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "one seen, but they're also the ones that"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "have been used in criminal and illegal"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "activities, including staging alien"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "abductions and mutilations and other"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "things. So we're going to drill down on"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "that very heavily, but we're also going"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "to reveal a lot of the new studies for"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "the bugosphere, this item that landed in"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "Bugga, Colombia, South America. And uh"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "yesterday they just completed the"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "microCT scan, which we're awaiting the"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "results on that that will give us an"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "enormous amount of detail on the"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "interior, which we haven't been able to"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "get with normal CT scans that are done"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "on human bodies. This is a specialized"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "um aerospace CT scan that actually looks"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "at the internal structures of anything"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "technological."}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "And so that I think is going to be very"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "revealing and very interesting. Um we"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "hope to get those results in the next"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "couple of days so we can analyze it with"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "our scientists but also with our"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "radiologists. So that will all be"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "presented at the National Press Club"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "along with these new whistleblowers. And"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "we are also going to make um uh quite"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "clear that the uh criminal activities"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "that have been documented and now turned"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "over to law enforcement need they need"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "more followup on that. And and given the"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "fact that there are now some 11"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "scientists and other people missing that"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "the mainstream news, the media is"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "covering that they need to push through"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "not only the whistleblower protections"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "that we uh recommended about four years"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "ago that got shot down in the House. Uh"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "it came out of the Senate uh and the"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "Senate Intelligence Committee"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "unanimously, but then failed in the"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "House vote uh due to a couple of bad"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "actors who we we blew the whistle on who"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "they were. Uh and I think that the uh"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "the the they need to extend that to if"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "necessary federal marshall protection."}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "In other words, personal protective uh"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "detail for some of the very high value"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "whistleblowers, HVWs."}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "Um they're high-V value targets, but"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "these are high-V value whistleblowers."}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "and we know who they are and and they"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "have been handed over to law enforcement"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "and also to certain members of the"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "administration as well as the um the"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "Congress. But uh so far they've all gone"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "out there quote unquote naked without"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "any uh specific protection uh for this."}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "And given the fact that this is the"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "largest RICO or or criminal uh network"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "in in the world and they have a proven"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "track record of killing people that are"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "too much trouble for them. I think it's"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "very important that this be brought up"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "at the National Press Club as well. So"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "there'll be a number of issues. It'll be"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "very packed and move very quickly"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "because we only have about an hour and a"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "half to do it. It's not a a normal UFO"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "conference. It's a it's a press club"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "event. So, um, but I hope you guys will"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "all come who can make it here to"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "Washington. It's going to be historic."}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:02", "text": ">> Yeah, that's that's going to be"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "exciting. I I was at the very first"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "press conference 25 years ago, so it's"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "all coming full circle. So, it's it's"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "very exciting."}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:13", "text": ">> Yeah. And it's all coming I mean, if you"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "look at the result of what's happened,"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "you know, of course, I get asked all the"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "time by media, when do you think, you"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "know, disclosure will happen? I said,"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "\"Well, I thought it was going to happen"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "in the summer of 1994"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "after we had briefed the uh Clinton"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "administration and they were drilling"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "down very heavily on it.\" And here we"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "are 32 years later and we're making a"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "lot of progress. But um the big risk is"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "that it comes out either falsely with a"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "false alien threat narrative or as the"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "vice president JD Vance said a few weeks"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "ago on on the Benny Johnson show that"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "these are demons which I got immediately"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "back on Benny Johnson show which he's a"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "good friend of the vice presidents and I"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "said this is absolutely not the case and"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "we need to avoid that sort of uh"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "language because the last thing you want"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "to do is pivot this thing towards"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "superstitious clap trap or or holy war"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "or that there you know an alien threat"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "from outer space like Vernon von Brown"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "uh warned us about in 1974"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "uh being staged and now luckily uh"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "recently there was a general who had"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "been national security advisor to the"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "president uh in his first term uh uh"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "Mike Flynn and General Flynn and I have"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "met extensively and he recently posted a"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "warning"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "uh about this uh false flag"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "scenario and I was very gratified to see"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "him do that. Uh we're trying to get more"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "and more people educated about that so"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "in case they do pull a stunt with a"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "false disclosure or a frightening"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "disclosure or what have you that we'll"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "have other voices besides my own warning"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "about it because 100% of the UFO"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "subculture has bought it hookline and"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "sinker about abductions and mutilations."}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "And as you all know, recently a former"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "congressman Matt Gates was talking about"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "the u the hybridization program where"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "military programs have taken uh"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "extraterrestrial genetic material and"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "and combined it with human material. Um"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "now the provenance of the guy who told"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "him that it turns out is in question but"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "the information is correct. uh and we've"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "known about this since the 1990s and uh"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "there's another point where where people"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "are saying you know there's I know that"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "other members of Congress recently have"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "said that some of these atrocities that"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "have been going on in deep cover black"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "projects are very worrisome uh and they"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "can't talk about some of it because it's"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "been provided in in a skiff whereas I"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "can because even if I've gone in a skiff"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "I don't sign a non-disclosure agreement"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "whereas the members of Congress do,"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "which is a a strange situation for"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "myself, but um sort of suie generous, I"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "think they'd say in the legal term, but"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "um I I that's what we're we're um you"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "want to be sure that as all this is"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "rolling out that we keep this uh"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "information flowing and get more and"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "more whistleblowers who have dealt with"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "directly the man-made devices and their"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "criminal activities uh you know that"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "have been involved including child"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "trafficking, human trafficking, drug"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "running, uh targeted assassinations,"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "kill lists, sort of things like wet"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "works, um and all of that which is now"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "being talked about more and more openly"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "in the media with these missing"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "scientists. And so you know that's in"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "fact I just did a interview for some"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "network yesterday about this and um I"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "think it's important that everyone ask"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "people to tune in on this um national"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "press club event and also more"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "importantly the webinar on May 9th is"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "going to have way more information"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "because we're going to have four hours"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "to unpack things instead of only you"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "know an hour and 10 minutes with 20"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "minutes of Q&A. So, I I hope you'll get"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "people to sign up for that because"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "people get a lot more detailed"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "information there."}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:23", "text": ">> Yeah. And it's um you know, to"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "commemorate our 25th anniversary, it's"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "it's only $25 for the webinar. So, it's"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "right"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:31", "text": ">> it's pretty good."}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "um was so you know what I know it's"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "coming out so much now about these"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "missing scientists but this has been"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "this is sort of a concentrated time that"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "you know they've gone missing but this"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "has been happening for a long time I"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "mean there was Amy Esgridge and Eugene"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "Malof and so many others you know that"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "have been killed"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:52", "text": ">> right that people I've known over the"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "years that have been killed or"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "disappeared or died quite obviously uh"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "by being scrubbed or burned"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "um like they're do a burn notice. Now,"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "one of the things I mentioned yesterday,"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "it was I think Fox Digital uh their"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "their global digital news and I was"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "being interviewed uh yesterday and I"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "said, \"You have to understand this has"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "been going on for decades and I've"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "directly known of people who have been"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "killed.\" Uh and I said if you look at"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "the lost century, the documentary we did"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "about the energy technologies being"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "suppressed, we documented there a number"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "of people who were just flat out killed"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "who were civilians. They weren't even"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "working in a covert program and wanting"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "to come forward as whistleblowers. They"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "were simply, you know, inventors and"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "scientists or people who stumbled"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "across, you know, how to do the"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "electromagnetic fields in a way that"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "resulted in a free energy system and and"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "and they were killed. So I think this is"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "something that we have brought up many"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "times to federal law enforcement and"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "members of Congress that something like"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "this you really can't sit on. Um it's"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "kind of good now that uh you know"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "sunlight is the best disinfectant that"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "you know there even the mainstream media"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "is shining a light on that problem and"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "there are members of Congress openly"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "talking about it on major mainstream"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "media shows. So I think that's a good"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "thing because even though it's a little"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "spooky for people, they're beginning to"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "realize the scope of the problem that"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "I've been facing and in terms of uh you"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "know I have to thread this needle of"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "asking people to come forward but I"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "don't control the federal marshall"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "service or FBI or anyone else to extend"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "a security detail to them. Now what we"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "have done there are people in the system"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "that once someone surfaces we can ask"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "them to put an electromagnetic"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "surveillance around them and that if"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "anyone does threaten them we capture"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "that and those people can then be"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "arrested or tracked and tracked back to"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "who's giving those orders because"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "obviously there is a chain of command of"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "uh people involved in these criminal"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "operations um and extrajudicial"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "killings as they're called um the kill"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "list or or wet works operations. And uh"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "I also revealed that there are some very"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "high value whistleblowers that wanted to"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "come forward about three years ago and"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "and um from out west at at a covert"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "black site and there was a meeting in a"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "skiff uh where it was openly being"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "talked about killing them uh and and"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "closing those leaks and just flat out"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "killing those whistleblowers. And of"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "course uh one a couple of them I'm very"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "close to and one has young children and"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "it was you know very frightening for"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "them. So, you know, for most people, you"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "know, they Google on the internet and"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "and and this is all entertainment, but"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "it's a deadly serious matter and it's"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "good that this is beginning to be"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "discussed in mainstream circles as well"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "as with members of Congress who are"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "aware of it. And in fact, even the"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "president referred to these missing"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "scientists the other day uh on Air Force"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "One, I believe."}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:09", "text": ">> Yeah, it's that's pretty crazy stuff. Um"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "so um do we have any questions from our"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "members that just yeah"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:17", "text": ">> post it in chat uh please if you have"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:17", "text": "any questions."}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:21", "text": ">> Um"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "so you know everyone is talking about"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "disclosure now but the thing nobody's"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "talking about is C5 because obviously"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "you are the man for C5. So um how you"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "know how is that going to help pivot"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "things to the future because really I"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "mean everyone every other person is"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "discussing disclosure now so we have"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "another solution."}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:49", "text": ">> Well that's that's why we just released"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "this movie C5 New Frontier Contact"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "because"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:57", "text": "there needs to be an answer to what's"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "next. Let's say best case scenario this"}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "comes out and it comes out honestly and"}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "then the public are going to go well"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "what are we going to do with this and"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "there's two answers that have to be you"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "given very quickly. Number one the"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "human humanitarian technologies medical"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "and energy systems that would end"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "poverty and fix the environment those"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "need to be come come out as soon as"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "possible like a 100 years ago. Uh and"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "then the other is a standown order by"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "the president to stop the targeting with"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "these electromagnetic pulse weapons of"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:37", "text": "the ET craft and instead"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "the governments not just United States"}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "but around the world uh make a decision"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "to make peaceful contact with them which"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "is what C5 contact is. And that was the"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "original I'm wearing this shirt. This is"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "from the 90s. is the original C5"}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "organization CETI the center for the"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "study of extraterrestrial intelligence"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "which I founded in 1990 and the whole"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "purpose of that was to say we can be"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "citizen ambassadors and diplomats until"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:11", "text": "such time and and maybe even continuing"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "so the governments of the world"}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "understand that we're not alone and they"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "need to do something constructive and"}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "intelligent and civilized about it But"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:23", "text": "in the in the past, you know, presidents"}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "haven't known about this subject."}, {"start": "00:21:23", "end": "00:21:28", "text": "President Obama admitted that. Clinton"}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "has admitted it. They got they tried to"}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:32", "text": "find out, were pushed aside. You had all"}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "these sort of problems that have"}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "happened over the years uh where there's"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "been a decapitation of the legal"}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:41", "text": "government not only of the United"}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "States, but of other countries. because"}, {"start": "00:21:41", "end": "00:21:45", "text": "I've had meetings with ministers of"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "defense and heads of state in other"}, {"start": "00:21:45", "end": "00:21:50", "text": "countries in Europe, Canada, Australia,"}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "and I can tell in Japan, there's no"}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "difference. It's this is a global"}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "criminal covert operation. And so once"}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:22:01", "text": "this comes out, one of the chief things"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "that hap has to happen is C5 contact."}, {"start": "00:22:01", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "And so all of us doing this in a sense,"}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:09", "text": "we're warming up the the the"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "superconscious field when we do it. And"}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "that's why, by the way, in late in May,"}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:15", "text": "we're going to have a whole week uh"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "where we're going to be going through"}, {"start": "00:22:15", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "the the deep history of everything I've"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "experienced uh with ET contact, but also"}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "disclosure that are private stories that"}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:31", "text": "nobody's heard. Um those will be"}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:34", "text": "recorded uh by a two camera shoot out at"}, {"start": "00:22:31", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "our retreat center in Hot Springs."}, {"start": "00:22:34", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "There's still about 10 or 11 positions"}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "open for people want to come to that in"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:44", "text": "person. Uh and then it's going to be"}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "webinar uh um stream live stream and"}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "then if the weather is suitable um you"}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "can never know in this part of the world"}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:56", "text": "we'll go out on the land we have there"}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:58", "text": "um and do C5 contact at night and there"}, {"start": "00:22:56", "end": "00:23:01", "text": "we're also going to do a big event for"}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:03", "text": "the public for about 350 people on a"}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "mountain there in the Blue Ridge"}, {"start": "00:23:03", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "Mountains outside of Charlottesville"}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:10", "text": "Virginia and uh at the uh end of July"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "And that's going to be a three-day"}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "weekend, Friday, night, Saturday,"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:17", "text": "Sunday, and we'll be up on this"}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:19", "text": "mountaintop that we have uh all to"}, {"start": "00:23:17", "end": "00:23:22", "text": "ourselves. But it's a really beautiful"}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:25", "text": "facility. And what's nice is that the"}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "daytime meetings and or our space is"}, {"start": "00:23:25", "end": "00:23:29", "text": "adjacent to the outside terraces that"}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:32", "text": "are on top of this mountain with a view"}, {"start": "00:23:29", "end": "00:23:34", "text": "forever, 100 mile view. So, it's going"}, {"start": "00:23:32", "end": "00:23:37", "text": "to be a phenomenal place to do C5 at"}, {"start": "00:23:34", "end": "00:23:39", "text": "night in late July. So I hope all of you"}, {"start": "00:23:37", "end": "00:23:40", "text": "can come to that as well. I think we"}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:42", "text": "have the site up now where you can"}, {"start": "00:23:40", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "register if you want to come."}, {"start": "00:23:42", "end": "00:23:49", "text": ">> Yeah, it is on our website. Um,"}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:51", "text": "so when a person is meditating, is there"}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:54", "text": "anything specific they should be"}, {"start": "00:23:51", "end": "00:23:58", "text": "focusing on any concepts or ideas in"}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:24:01", "text": "order to manifest universal peace?"}, {"start": "00:23:58", "end": "00:24:03", "text": ">> Well, people confuse meditation with"}, {"start": "00:24:01", "end": "00:24:07", "text": "regular thought. Okay, so let's let's"}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:10", "text": "talk about that. Meditation is a process"}, {"start": "00:24:07", "end": "00:24:13", "text": "of going deeper and deeper into more"}, {"start": "00:24:10", "end": "00:24:16", "text": "quiet levels of consciousness to where"}, {"start": "00:24:13", "end": "00:24:19", "text": "you're only perceiving the mind itself."}, {"start": "00:24:16", "end": "00:24:21", "text": "That's the meditation. Now, meditation"}, {"start": "00:24:19", "end": "00:24:24", "text": "is also used generically as thinking,"}, {"start": "00:24:21", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "but that's not how I'm using it. So, the"}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:31", "text": "meditation per se is is not to think"}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:33", "text": "about things or ideas. It's to go into a"}, {"start": "00:24:31", "end": "00:24:36", "text": "state of deep consciousness where you"}, {"start": "00:24:33", "end": "00:24:39", "text": "can then remote view, see the future,"}, {"start": "00:24:36", "end": "00:24:42", "text": "contact the ETSs from a deep level of"}, {"start": "00:24:39", "end": "00:24:43", "text": "quantum entangled consciousness,"}, {"start": "00:24:42", "end": "00:24:46", "text": "non-locality."}, {"start": "00:24:43", "end": "00:24:48", "text": "Now, once you're in a deeper state of"}, {"start": "00:24:46", "end": "00:24:50", "text": "consciousness, then you can put those"}, {"start": "00:24:48", "end": "00:24:52", "text": "intentions out uh because it's more"}, {"start": "00:24:50", "end": "00:24:55", "text": "powerful. Instead of operating from your"}, {"start": "00:24:52", "end": "00:24:57", "text": "little monkey mind and intellect, you're"}, {"start": "00:24:55", "end": "00:24:59", "text": "operating from a deeper level of"}, {"start": "00:24:57", "end": "00:25:02", "text": "consciousness. That's that universal"}, {"start": "00:24:59", "end": "00:25:04", "text": "field of awareness and that is where it"}, {"start": "00:25:02", "end": "00:25:06", "text": "is very powerful. Um same thing if you"}, {"start": "00:25:04", "end": "00:25:09", "text": "want to engage in intercessionary prayer"}, {"start": "00:25:06", "end": "00:25:11", "text": "to help somebody or do anything if you"}, {"start": "00:25:09", "end": "00:25:14", "text": "go into that state of mind and get"}, {"start": "00:25:11", "end": "00:25:17", "text": "centered there uh it's a thousand times"}, {"start": "00:25:14", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "more powerful. So that's the power of"}, {"start": "00:25:17", "end": "00:25:23", "text": "being in the deep meditative state and"}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:25", "text": "then learning to do the C5 coherent"}, {"start": "00:25:23", "end": "00:25:27", "text": "thought sequencing or to put out a"}, {"start": "00:25:25", "end": "00:25:29", "text": "prayer and intention for universal"}, {"start": "00:25:27", "end": "00:25:32", "text": "peace. But you want to first do the"}, {"start": "00:25:29", "end": "00:25:34", "text": "meditation and go as deeply and into a"}, {"start": "00:25:32", "end": "00:25:38", "text": "deep state of of quiet consciousness as"}, {"start": "00:25:34", "end": "00:25:41", "text": "possible. And that will actually then"}, {"start": "00:25:38", "end": "00:25:44", "text": "supercharge the um the any intent you"}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:48", "text": "put out there including contacting the"}, {"start": "00:25:44", "end": "00:25:51", "text": "ETSs because you're then operating uh"}, {"start": "00:25:48", "end": "00:25:53", "text": "from a much more powerful aspect of"}, {"start": "00:25:51", "end": "00:25:56", "text": "yourself that is universal and"}, {"start": "00:25:53", "end": "00:25:58", "text": "omnipresent. Uh and that's that's the"}, {"start": "00:25:56", "end": "00:26:00", "text": "key thing to realize is that everyone"}, {"start": "00:25:58", "end": "00:26:02", "text": "right now hears me speaking and they're"}, {"start": "00:26:00", "end": "00:26:05", "text": "awake. But if you were to just to do"}, {"start": "00:26:02", "end": "00:26:08", "text": "sort of a Zen process of of removing"}, {"start": "00:26:05", "end": "00:26:10", "text": "everything you're hearing and perceiving"}, {"start": "00:26:08", "end": "00:26:12", "text": "and just shift quietly to the mind"}, {"start": "00:26:10", "end": "00:26:15", "text": "itself that's awake. That's what we're"}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "talking about going deep into that. It's"}, {"start": "00:26:15", "end": "00:26:21", "text": "very simple actually. Um and so that's"}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:23", "text": "what we're going to practice every night"}, {"start": "00:26:21", "end": "00:26:24", "text": "up there on Hillrest. But in May when"}, {"start": "00:26:23", "end": "00:26:26", "text": "you know with the whole group we'll do"}, {"start": "00:26:24", "end": "00:26:29", "text": "that. We'll do group meditations. We'll"}, {"start": "00:26:26", "end": "00:26:32", "text": "do the Sanskrit um puja which I think is"}, {"start": "00:26:29", "end": "00:26:34", "text": "interesting that the bugosphere has a"}, {"start": "00:26:32", "end": "00:26:35", "text": "type of protoanskrit writing around the"}, {"start": "00:26:34", "end": "00:26:39", "text": "top of it. I don't know if you all have"}, {"start": "00:26:35", "end": "00:26:42", "text": "seen it. U which is interesting because"}, {"start": "00:26:39", "end": "00:26:45", "text": "I knew when I when I died when I was 17"}, {"start": "00:26:42", "end": "00:26:48", "text": "and then six months later had that"}, {"start": "00:26:45", "end": "00:26:51", "text": "onboard ET contact experience where I"}, {"start": "00:26:48", "end": "00:26:56", "text": "sort of created the C5 protocol with the"}, {"start": "00:26:51", "end": "00:26:59", "text": "with our ET friends. Um, I knew that I"}, {"start": "00:26:56", "end": "00:27:02", "text": "was I was hearing words in language that"}, {"start": "00:26:59", "end": "00:27:05", "text": "were like Sanskrit"}, {"start": "00:27:02", "end": "00:27:07", "text": "and that when I learned meditation and"}, {"start": "00:27:05", "end": "00:27:09", "text": "began to study the vadas, I knew that"}, {"start": "00:27:07", "end": "00:27:12", "text": "that language originated from another"}, {"start": "00:27:09", "end": "00:27:13", "text": "star system way back,"}, {"start": "00:27:12", "end": "00:27:17", "text": ">> you know, probably a couple hundred"}, {"start": "00:27:13", "end": "00:27:20", "text": "thousand years ago, not just 5,000, but"}, {"start": "00:27:17", "end": "00:27:22", "text": "and then to see it on this bugosphere"}, {"start": "00:27:20", "end": "00:27:24", "text": "which is 12,560"}, {"start": "00:27:22", "end": "00:27:26", "text": "years old is is really quite interesting"}, {"start": "00:27:24", "end": "00:27:28", "text": "and and it in a sense it didn't surprise"}, {"start": "00:27:26", "end": "00:27:31", "text": "me but it was sort of confirmatory of"}, {"start": "00:27:28", "end": "00:27:34", "text": "what I had always sensed and seen and"}, {"start": "00:27:31", "end": "00:27:35", "text": "remote viewed but um which is quite"}, {"start": "00:27:34", "end": "00:27:39", "text": "exciting."}, {"start": "00:27:35", "end": "00:27:41", "text": ">> It is and there's so many more um"}, {"start": "00:27:39", "end": "00:27:43", "text": "sightings of these spheres uh in all"}, {"start": "00:27:41", "end": "00:27:46", "text": "different places around the world. What"}, {"start": "00:27:43", "end": "00:27:50", "text": "um what are your thoughts on why they're"}, {"start": "00:27:46", "end": "00:27:52", "text": "suddenly being released now?"}, {"start": "00:27:50", "end": "00:27:55", "text": "Well, I think that there are multiple"}, {"start": "00:27:52", "end": "00:27:57", "text": "types of spheres. There are uh energetic"}, {"start": "00:27:55", "end": "00:27:59", "text": "orbs being seen that people call"}, {"start": "00:27:57", "end": "00:28:02", "text": "spheres. There are man-made spheres that"}, {"start": "00:27:59", "end": "00:28:04", "text": "people are confusing with the nonhuman"}, {"start": "00:28:02", "end": "00:28:07", "text": "ones. And then there are the ones that"}, {"start": "00:28:04", "end": "00:28:11", "text": "are the extraterrestrial ones, some of"}, {"start": "00:28:07", "end": "00:28:14", "text": "which may be more recent in terms of"}, {"start": "00:28:11", "end": "00:28:17", "text": "their arrival doing surveillance of the"}, {"start": "00:28:14", "end": "00:28:18", "text": "mess we've made of the planet."}, {"start": "00:28:17", "end": "00:28:20", "text": ">> Right. But I think these others, the"}, {"start": "00:28:18", "end": "00:28:23", "text": "ones that the one that we're studying"}, {"start": "00:28:20", "end": "00:28:27", "text": "and others like it that appear to be"}, {"start": "00:28:23", "end": "00:28:29", "text": "activated in that area of South America"}, {"start": "00:28:27", "end": "00:28:33", "text": "and the one that we did, you know, get"}, {"start": "00:28:29", "end": "00:28:36", "text": "possession of that's 12,500 years old. I"}, {"start": "00:28:33", "end": "00:28:38", "text": "think those there it's a sphere, but not"}, {"start": "00:28:36", "end": "00:28:40", "text": "all spheres are from the same origin and"}, {"start": "00:28:38", "end": "00:28:43", "text": "what have you. So, uh, but now if we're"}, {"start": "00:28:40", "end": "00:28:45", "text": "speaking directly of all the bugosphere"}, {"start": "00:28:43", "end": "00:28:47", "text": "type, uh, ones that are being seen, you"}, {"start": "00:28:45", "end": "00:28:49", "text": "know, there are multiple ones that have"}, {"start": "00:28:47", "end": "00:28:51", "text": "been filmed up close enough, you can see"}, {"start": "00:28:49", "end": "00:28:55", "text": "the same equator on it, the same design"}, {"start": "00:28:51", "end": "00:28:58", "text": "on it. They're identical, it appears, to"}, {"start": "00:28:55", "end": "00:29:01", "text": "the one that has was retrieved in"}, {"start": "00:28:58", "end": "00:29:04", "text": "Colombia, South America in Buga, uh, by"}, {"start": "00:29:01", "end": "00:29:07", "text": "that farmer. And I think that what"}, {"start": "00:29:04", "end": "00:29:09", "text": "people need to understand is that I that"}, {"start": "00:29:07", "end": "00:29:13", "text": "activation I call it the bugosphere"}, {"start": "00:29:09", "end": "00:29:17", "text": "activations um is very likely the result"}, {"start": "00:29:13", "end": "00:29:19", "text": "of a sensing of geoysical instability"}, {"start": "00:29:17", "end": "00:29:22", "text": "and magnetic field instability and"}, {"start": "00:29:19", "end": "00:29:24", "text": "perhaps something out in space and it's"}, {"start": "00:29:22", "end": "00:29:27", "text": "sort of an early warning system because"}, {"start": "00:29:24", "end": "00:29:29", "text": "there's no ETS on board and they're"}, {"start": "00:29:27", "end": "00:29:32", "text": "ancient and they're being activated all"}, {"start": "00:29:29", "end": "00:29:34", "text": "of a sudden. Um, I would say that it's a"}, {"start": "00:29:32", "end": "00:29:37", "text": "early warning system letting people know"}, {"start": "00:29:34", "end": "00:29:39", "text": "that the earth is in a bit of trouble"}, {"start": "00:29:37", "end": "00:29:42", "text": "and people should prepare for that. And"}, {"start": "00:29:39", "end": "00:29:46", "text": "uh, that's my sense of it. Uh, I do not"}, {"start": "00:29:42", "end": "00:29:48", "text": "think I'm wrong actually, but um, but"}, {"start": "00:29:46", "end": "00:29:50", "text": "it's it's fascinating what I'm waiting"}, {"start": "00:29:48", "end": "00:29:52", "text": "to find out. We need I'd like to, you"}, {"start": "00:29:50", "end": "00:29:55", "text": "know, I wish I could interview, but I"}, {"start": "00:29:52", "end": "00:29:59", "text": "don't speak Spanish. Everyone who has"}, {"start": "00:29:55", "end": "00:30:00", "text": "seen one and has anyone seen them at the"}, {"start": "00:29:59", "end": "00:30:03", "text": "point of origin? Did they just"}, {"start": "00:30:00", "end": "00:30:06", "text": "materialize in thin air which ET objects"}, {"start": "00:30:03", "end": "00:30:08", "text": "can? Did they come up from the ground or"}, {"start": "00:30:06", "end": "00:30:11", "text": "did they come from the sky?"}, {"start": "00:30:08", "end": "00:30:13", "text": ">> I don't know. And see this is I've never"}, {"start": "00:30:11", "end": "00:30:16", "text": "heard anyone ask that question or"}, {"start": "00:30:13", "end": "00:30:18", "text": "address it. But if I had all the people"}, {"start": "00:30:16", "end": "00:30:21", "text": "who've ever seen one of these in South"}, {"start": "00:30:18", "end": "00:30:23", "text": "America, that would be a question to ask"}, {"start": "00:30:21", "end": "00:30:26", "text": "uh that I think the researchers in Latin"}, {"start": "00:30:23", "end": "00:30:29", "text": "America that we know like Haime should"}, {"start": "00:30:26", "end": "00:30:31", "text": "do because um I think that would it"}, {"start": "00:30:29", "end": "00:30:34", "text": "would say a lot if that could be nailed"}, {"start": "00:30:31", "end": "00:30:39", "text": "down. Right now we don't know honestly."}, {"start": "00:30:34", "end": "00:30:42", "text": ">> Yeah, that's very interesting. Um, so if"}, {"start": "00:30:39", "end": "00:30:46", "text": "Trump actually is able to accurately"}, {"start": "00:30:42", "end": "00:30:49", "text": "release the truth about um the UFOs and"}, {"start": "00:30:46", "end": "00:30:51", "text": "release these files, isn't that's"}, {"start": "00:30:49", "end": "00:30:53", "text": "probably going to greatly improve his"}, {"start": "00:30:51", "end": "00:30:55", "text": "legacy as a president. Wouldn't you"}, {"start": "00:30:53", "end": "00:30:57", "text": "agree?"}, {"start": "00:30:55", "end": "00:30:58", "text": ">> Well, it depends on how it's handled."}, {"start": "00:30:57", "end": "00:31:00", "text": "you know, the warning as soon as he got"}, {"start": "00:30:58", "end": "00:31:02", "text": "elected because I knew this was on the"}, {"start": "00:31:00", "end": "00:31:05", "text": "fast going to get fasttracked during"}, {"start": "00:31:02", "end": "00:31:06", "text": "that term. Not because of him, just"}, {"start": "00:31:05", "end": "00:31:09", "text": "because of the confluence of things"}, {"start": "00:31:06", "end": "00:31:12", "text": "going on with law enforcement, Pentagon,"}, {"start": "00:31:09", "end": "00:31:14", "text": "the Senate, the House, disclosure in"}, {"start": "00:31:12", "end": "00:31:17", "text": "general. He happens to be"}, {"start": "00:31:14", "end": "00:31:19", "text": ">> in the office of the presidency when all"}, {"start": "00:31:17", "end": "00:31:24", "text": "this is almost certainly going to break."}, {"start": "00:31:19", "end": "00:31:26", "text": "Um, that if it's handled badly, it'd be"}, {"start": "00:31:24", "end": "00:31:28", "text": "ruinous. it'll be a thousand times worse"}, {"start": "00:31:26", "end": "00:31:31", "text": "than the mismanagement of COVID or what"}, {"start": "00:31:28", "end": "00:31:33", "text": "have you or the missteps that led up to"}, {"start": "00:31:31", "end": "00:31:37", "text": "9/11. On the other hand, if it's handled"}, {"start": "00:31:33", "end": "00:31:40", "text": "well, it would be a unifying and pivotal"}, {"start": "00:31:37", "end": "00:31:42", "text": "moment in human history. And so, what"}, {"start": "00:31:40", "end": "00:31:44", "text": "we're waiting to see and what I say to"}, {"start": "00:31:42", "end": "00:31:45", "text": "people who are very close to the"}, {"start": "00:31:44", "end": "00:31:49", "text": "president and people who spend time"}, {"start": "00:31:45", "end": "00:31:52", "text": "privately with him that he needs to get"}, {"start": "00:31:49", "end": "00:31:54", "text": "this one right now."}, {"start": "00:31:52", "end": "00:31:56", "text": "The other thing I think people have to"}, {"start": "00:31:54", "end": "00:31:59", "text": "be, you know, not have too high"}, {"start": "00:31:56", "end": "00:32:02", "text": "expectations right away because he has"}, {"start": "00:31:59", "end": "00:32:04", "text": "not spent time delving into this and"}, {"start": "00:32:02", "end": "00:32:06", "text": "neither has the vice president. The vice"}, {"start": "00:32:04", "end": "00:32:08", "text": "president admitted a few weeks ago on"}, {"start": "00:32:06", "end": "00:32:10", "text": "the Benny Johnson show that he wanted to"}, {"start": "00:32:08", "end": "00:32:13", "text": "know about this as soon as he took"}, {"start": "00:32:10", "end": "00:32:16", "text": "office, but he's been too busy and has"}, {"start": "00:32:13", "end": "00:32:19", "text": "not done an indepth um study of it. This"}, {"start": "00:32:16", "end": "00:32:23", "text": "is why the president has assigned this"}, {"start": "00:32:19", "end": "00:32:26", "text": "to Hegath, the the secretary of war as"}, {"start": "00:32:23", "end": "00:32:28", "text": "they call it now. Um wonder when we'll"}, {"start": "00:32:26", "end": "00:32:30", "text": "have a secretary of peace. That would be"}, {"start": "00:32:28", "end": "00:32:33", "text": "nice. But a secretary of universal"}, {"start": "00:32:30", "end": "00:32:36", "text": "peace, that's what we need. U but I"}, {"start": "00:32:33", "end": "00:32:39", "text": "think that um someday, God willing. So,"}, {"start": "00:32:36", "end": "00:32:41", "text": "I think that the uh"}, {"start": "00:32:39", "end": "00:32:43", "text": "one of the things we're doing and we've"}, {"start": "00:32:41", "end": "00:32:46", "text": "just done is to get a briefing materials"}, {"start": "00:32:43", "end": "00:32:49", "text": "over to uh Secretary Hegath as well as"}, {"start": "00:32:46", "end": "00:32:52", "text": "to the vice president. Um we've already"}, {"start": "00:32:49", "end": "00:32:53", "text": "provided those materials to people uh to"}, {"start": "00:32:52", "end": "00:32:55", "text": "the president, people close to him and"}, {"start": "00:32:53", "end": "00:32:58", "text": "to members of Congress, but the point"}, {"start": "00:32:55", "end": "00:33:01", "text": "person appears to be the sec secretary"}, {"start": "00:32:58", "end": "00:33:04", "text": "heath. But of course, we have this mess"}, {"start": "00:33:01", "end": "00:33:07", "text": "in the in Iran and the Middle East. So"}, {"start": "00:33:04", "end": "00:33:08", "text": "you I'm sure his plate is very full. So"}, {"start": "00:33:07", "end": "00:33:10", "text": "I'm telling people, you know, even"}, {"start": "00:33:08", "end": "00:33:12", "text": "though the president yesterday,"}, {"start": "00:33:10", "end": "00:33:13", "text": "literally yesterday in Phoenix said"}, {"start": "00:33:12", "end": "00:33:17", "text": "these are these things are going to come"}, {"start": "00:33:13", "end": "00:33:20", "text": "out very very soon. I'm wondering why"}, {"start": "00:33:17", "end": "00:33:22", "text": "because um now I I will say without I"}, {"start": "00:33:20", "end": "00:33:24", "text": "don't want to betray any confidences"}, {"start": "00:33:22", "end": "00:33:28", "text": "that are sensitive. I do know in the"}, {"start": "00:33:24", "end": "00:33:31", "text": "last year plus there are people in the"}, {"start": "00:33:28", "end": "00:33:34", "text": "system based on the information we've"}, {"start": "00:33:31", "end": "00:33:36", "text": "provided and some of the military people"}, {"start": "00:33:34", "end": "00:33:38", "text": "working with us who have gone out in the"}, {"start": "00:33:36", "end": "00:33:41", "text": "field and gotten more assets and"}, {"start": "00:33:38", "end": "00:33:43", "text": "whistleblowers and what have you that"}, {"start": "00:33:41", "end": "00:33:46", "text": "they know a great deal more than they're"}, {"start": "00:33:43", "end": "00:33:49", "text": "saying including the president um and"}, {"start": "00:33:46", "end": "00:33:52", "text": "and uh the DNI the director of national"}, {"start": "00:33:49", "end": "00:33:54", "text": "intelligence and a few others. So the"}, {"start": "00:33:52", "end": "00:33:58", "text": "question is how much of that will they"}, {"start": "00:33:54", "end": "00:34:02", "text": "reveal? Um I know that um Bob Bigalow of"}, {"start": "00:33:58", "end": "00:34:04", "text": "Bigalow Aerospace that's now closed has"}, {"start": "00:34:02", "end": "00:34:06", "text": "recommended he's very good friends with"}, {"start": "00:34:04", "end": "00:34:08", "text": "the president that he not that he do a"}, {"start": "00:34:06", "end": "00:34:11", "text": "soft disclosure and leave most of the"}, {"start": "00:34:08", "end": "00:34:14", "text": "information out because people like him"}, {"start": "00:34:11", "end": "00:34:16", "text": "who were involved in uh projects that"}, {"start": "00:34:14", "end": "00:34:20", "text": "have turned out to be quite illegal and"}, {"start": "00:34:16", "end": "00:34:22", "text": "have squandered a lot of tax dollars. I"}, {"start": "00:34:20", "end": "00:34:25", "text": "think they don't want the whole story to"}, {"start": "00:34:22", "end": "00:34:27", "text": "come out, including the fact that we"}, {"start": "00:34:25", "end": "00:34:29", "text": "have been building with black budget"}, {"start": "00:34:27", "end": "00:34:32", "text": "funds without the approval of the"}, {"start": "00:34:29", "end": "00:34:34", "text": "Congress or the president for decades,"}, {"start": "00:34:32", "end": "00:34:37", "text": "the man-made UFOs by reverse engineering"}, {"start": "00:34:34", "end": "00:34:40", "text": "them. Now, this is a multi- trillion"}, {"start": "00:34:37", "end": "00:34:43", "text": "dollar problem over the last 70 years or"}, {"start": "00:34:40", "end": "00:34:47", "text": "so since Eisenhower was pushed aside in"}, {"start": "00:34:43", "end": "00:34:49", "text": "the mid uh 1950s. So I, you know, the"}, {"start": "00:34:47", "end": "00:34:53", "text": "question is how much of that will they"}, {"start": "00:34:49", "end": "00:34:56", "text": "acknowledge and and how much of the"}, {"start": "00:34:53", "end": "00:34:58", "text": "information they disclose will be things"}, {"start": "00:34:56", "end": "00:35:00", "text": "that look scary that aliens did that"}, {"start": "00:34:58", "end": "00:35:03", "text": "were actually done by psychological"}, {"start": "00:35:00", "end": "00:35:05", "text": "warfare operations out of the CIA"}, {"start": "00:35:03", "end": "00:35:08", "text": "working with these corporate aerospace"}, {"start": "00:35:05", "end": "00:35:10", "text": "giants that that we know about. So this"}, {"start": "00:35:08", "end": "00:35:11", "text": "is what I'm watching for. And believe"}, {"start": "00:35:10", "end": "00:35:13", "text": "me, we may have another press"}, {"start": "00:35:11", "end": "00:35:17", "text": "conference. You know, it depends, you"}, {"start": "00:35:13", "end": "00:35:19", "text": "know, what comes out and we will have to"}, {"start": "00:35:17", "end": "00:35:22", "text": "analyze it very carefully and point out"}, {"start": "00:35:19", "end": "00:35:24", "text": "the things that are misdirects or wrong"}, {"start": "00:35:22", "end": "00:35:26", "text": "information. And honestly, I don't think"}, {"start": "00:35:24", "end": "00:35:28", "text": "it would be done deliberately by Mr."}, {"start": "00:35:26", "end": "00:35:30", "text": "Hegath or the president. It's because"}, {"start": "00:35:28", "end": "00:35:33", "text": "they simply don't,"}, {"start": "00:35:30", "end": "00:35:35", "text": "frankly, they need a subject expert. And"}, {"start": "00:35:33", "end": "00:35:37", "text": "I have offered to to help guide them"}, {"start": "00:35:35", "end": "00:35:40", "text": "through that. But I think what happens"}, {"start": "00:35:37", "end": "00:35:42", "text": "these things tend to happen very hastily"}, {"start": "00:35:40", "end": "00:35:45", "text": "uh without enough thought and without"}, {"start": "00:35:42", "end": "00:35:47", "text": "enough research and because everyone on"}, {"start": "00:35:45", "end": "00:35:49", "text": "this call knows how much most of the"}, {"start": "00:35:47", "end": "00:35:53", "text": "information on this subject has been"}, {"start": "00:35:49", "end": "00:35:56", "text": "deliberately curated for the false"}, {"start": "00:35:53", "end": "00:35:59", "text": "information and inside this sort of pay"}, {"start": "00:35:56", "end": "00:36:03", "text": "stack of disinformation are the gold"}, {"start": "00:35:59", "end": "00:36:04", "text": "nuggets in there. But you really got to"}, {"start": "00:36:03", "end": "00:36:06", "text": "know what you're doing. And and every"}, {"start": "00:36:04", "end": "00:36:09", "text": "one of these people because there are"}, {"start": "00:36:06", "end": "00:36:11", "text": "people who are on on our team who are"}, {"start": "00:36:09", "end": "00:36:13", "text": "friends, personal friends with Secretary"}, {"start": "00:36:11", "end": "00:36:16", "text": "Heg and the vice president and the"}, {"start": "00:36:13", "end": "00:36:20", "text": "president. And so I know for a fact that"}, {"start": "00:36:16", "end": "00:36:23", "text": "none of them have had adequate"}, {"start": "00:36:20", "end": "00:36:26", "text": "uh information and perspective and"}, {"start": "00:36:23", "end": "00:36:28", "text": "analysis done. So, it's going to be"}, {"start": "00:36:26", "end": "00:36:32", "text": "interesting, uh, you know, to to see"}, {"start": "00:36:28", "end": "00:36:34", "text": "what this first trunch is. And if it"}, {"start": "00:36:32", "end": "00:36:36", "text": "combines information with"}, {"start": "00:36:34", "end": "00:36:38", "text": "disinformation, we're going to have to"}, {"start": "00:36:36", "end": "00:36:40", "text": "go very public with correcting that. And"}, {"start": "00:36:38", "end": "00:36:41", "text": "of course, I'm not shy about doing so."}, {"start": "00:36:40", "end": "00:36:45", "text": "But, um,"}, {"start": "00:36:41", "end": "00:36:49", "text": ">> no, not at all. I'll go mono with"}, {"start": "00:36:45", "end": "00:36:51", "text": "anybody anywhere uh, for the truth. And"}, {"start": "00:36:49", "end": "00:36:54", "text": "I think that it we have to be that way."}, {"start": "00:36:51", "end": "00:36:58", "text": "Now, you know, other people that I'm"}, {"start": "00:36:54", "end": "00:37:00", "text": "talking to who are who are in Europe uh"}, {"start": "00:36:58", "end": "00:37:02", "text": "and elsewhere believe that there'll be"}, {"start": "00:37:00", "end": "00:37:04", "text": "very little revealed because they"}, {"start": "00:37:02", "end": "00:37:07", "text": "haven't really spent the time to get to"}, {"start": "00:37:04", "end": "00:37:09", "text": "the bottom of it. And um you know, will"}, {"start": "00:37:07", "end": "00:37:11", "text": "it just be another bunch of sighting"}, {"start": "00:37:09", "end": "00:37:14", "text": "reports and maybe some photos or videos?"}, {"start": "00:37:11", "end": "00:37:17", "text": "And of those, are those going to be"}, {"start": "00:37:14", "end": "00:37:19", "text": "man-made ones or nonhuman ones? And does"}, {"start": "00:37:17", "end": "00:37:21", "text": "anyone who's looking at them know the"}, {"start": "00:37:19", "end": "00:37:23", "text": "difference? Now, everyone listening to"}, {"start": "00:37:21", "end": "00:37:25", "text": "this knows the difference, but you're"}, {"start": "00:37:23", "end": "00:37:27", "text": "you're making a huge mistake if you"}, {"start": "00:37:25", "end": "00:37:30", "text": "think that this has been drilled down as"}, {"start": "00:37:27", "end": "00:37:34", "text": "well as it should be by these extremely"}, {"start": "00:37:30", "end": "00:37:37", "text": "busy people who are at the head of the"}, {"start": "00:37:34", "end": "00:37:39", "text": "US government. Right now, the people who"}, {"start": "00:37:37", "end": "00:37:41", "text": "have really had time to drill down on"}, {"start": "00:37:39", "end": "00:37:43", "text": "this more are certain members of"}, {"start": "00:37:41", "end": "00:37:48", "text": "Congress that I've been meeting with for"}, {"start": "00:37:43", "end": "00:37:50", "text": "three, four years. and and in that case"}, {"start": "00:37:48", "end": "00:37:52", "text": "they have a much deeper understanding"}, {"start": "00:37:50", "end": "00:37:55", "text": "and and some a couple of them have been"}, {"start": "00:37:52", "end": "00:37:58", "text": "speaking with the president but only in"}, {"start": "00:37:55", "end": "00:38:01", "text": "5 10 15 minute intervals. So you know"}, {"start": "00:37:58", "end": "00:38:04", "text": "what I don't know is um the extent of"}, {"start": "00:38:01", "end": "00:38:07", "text": "the depth of the knowledge and what that"}, {"start": "00:38:04", "end": "00:38:09", "text": "will reflect in the disclosure that that"}, {"start": "00:38:07", "end": "00:38:12", "text": "the president referred to yesterday. But"}, {"start": "00:38:09", "end": "00:38:15", "text": "we'll see. Um, and we just have to be"}, {"start": "00:38:12", "end": "00:38:18", "text": "ready to, you know, respond."}, {"start": "00:38:15", "end": "00:38:21", "text": ">> Well, it's it seems kind of tricky also"}, {"start": "00:38:18", "end": "00:38:24", "text": "because I know a lot of the aerospace, a"}, {"start": "00:38:21", "end": "00:38:26", "text": "lot of those big corporations also"}, {"start": "00:38:24", "end": "00:38:28", "text": "provide a lot of campaign funding to"}, {"start": "00:38:26", "end": "00:38:30", "text": "different people. So,"}, {"start": "00:38:28", "end": "00:38:32", "text": ">> oh,"}, {"start": "00:38:30", "end": "00:38:32", "text": "you know, it"}, {"start": "00:38:32", "end": "00:38:35", "text": "makes it"}, {"start": "00:38:32", "end": "00:38:37", "text": ">> pay to play or pay to play. Well, it's"}, {"start": "00:38:35", "end": "00:38:39", "text": "not only that, but remember the same"}, {"start": "00:38:37", "end": "00:38:43", "text": "companies that have been running these"}, {"start": "00:38:39", "end": "00:38:45", "text": "so-called illegal legacy programs also"}, {"start": "00:38:43", "end": "00:38:48", "text": "provide all the conventional jets and"}, {"start": "00:38:45", "end": "00:38:51", "text": "hardware and rockets and and uh"}, {"start": "00:38:48", "end": "00:38:54", "text": "surveillance tools and uh the B2 stealth"}, {"start": "00:38:51", "end": "00:38:56", "text": "is north of Brahman. So people have to"}, {"start": "00:38:54", "end": "00:38:58", "text": "be realistic. How how much can you bite"}, {"start": "00:38:56", "end": "00:39:01", "text": "the hand that's feeding you if in fact"}, {"start": "00:38:58", "end": "00:39:03", "text": "you're very dependent because the US"}, {"start": "00:39:01", "end": "00:39:06", "text": "government are filled with bureaucrats"}, {"start": "00:39:03", "end": "00:39:09", "text": "who don't do anything. They don't make"}, {"start": "00:39:06", "end": "00:39:12", "text": "anything. It's all contractors. So the"}, {"start": "00:39:09", "end": "00:39:14", "text": "action and this is where recently I've"}, {"start": "00:39:12", "end": "00:39:18", "text": "been saying this for 30 years. We've had"}, {"start": "00:39:14", "end": "00:39:22", "text": "members of Congress like uh uh Berles"}, {"start": "00:39:18", "end": "00:39:25", "text": "and also Bettad and some others Luna"}, {"start": "00:39:22", "end": "00:39:28", "text": "saying that in fact the center of"}, {"start": "00:39:25", "end": "00:39:30", "text": "gravity on all this isn't in government"}, {"start": "00:39:28", "end": "00:39:33", "text": "programs it's in the corporate world and"}, {"start": "00:39:30", "end": "00:39:36", "text": "of course I discovered that in the the"}, {"start": "00:39:33", "end": "00:39:38", "text": "about 30 a little over 30 years ago and"}, {"start": "00:39:36", "end": "00:39:40", "text": "I think this is the other problem is"}, {"start": "00:39:38", "end": "00:39:42", "text": "that the you know it's the it's the tail"}, {"start": "00:39:40", "end": "00:39:45", "text": "is wagging the dog the government should"}, {"start": "00:39:42", "end": "00:39:47", "text": "really uh of we the people should be in"}, {"start": "00:39:45", "end": "00:39:51", "text": "control. But it's actually the large"}, {"start": "00:39:47", "end": "00:39:54", "text": "corporate multinational corporations."}, {"start": "00:39:51", "end": "00:39:58", "text": "But those same corporations,"}, {"start": "00:39:54", "end": "00:40:00", "text": "the entire defense industry uh and the"}, {"start": "00:39:58", "end": "00:40:02", "text": "uh department of of defense and"}, {"start": "00:40:00", "end": "00:40:05", "text": "everything they want to do is dependent"}, {"start": "00:40:02", "end": "00:40:07", "text": "on that hardware and equipment coming"}, {"start": "00:40:05", "end": "00:40:10", "text": "from the same companies that have been"}, {"start": "00:40:07", "end": "00:40:12", "text": "running these illegal programs. So, you"}, {"start": "00:40:10", "end": "00:40:15", "text": "know, this is, I think, one of the real"}, {"start": "00:40:12", "end": "00:40:18", "text": "sticking points is that how do you"}, {"start": "00:40:15", "end": "00:40:20", "text": "proceed and acknowledge what we have and"}, {"start": "00:40:18", "end": "00:40:24", "text": "what's been done because you don't want"}, {"start": "00:40:20", "end": "00:40:25", "text": "to stomp all over your source of uh"}, {"start": "00:40:24", "end": "00:40:28", "text": "weapons when you're in the middle of a"}, {"start": "00:40:25", "end": "00:40:31", "text": "war with in the Middle East. So you have"}, {"start": "00:40:28", "end": "00:40:35", "text": "to then look more geopolitically and and"}, {"start": "00:40:31", "end": "00:40:37", "text": "strategically on what kind of uh breaks"}, {"start": "00:40:35", "end": "00:40:39", "text": "might be put on a full disclosure and a"}, {"start": "00:40:37", "end": "00:40:42", "text": "truthful disclosure which is why the"}, {"start": "00:40:39", "end": "00:40:45", "text": "disclosure project why we have to stay"}, {"start": "00:40:42", "end": "00:40:47", "text": "you know engaged and and uh put the"}, {"start": "00:40:45", "end": "00:40:50", "text": "information out and keep pushing the"}, {"start": "00:40:47", "end": "00:40:52", "text": "envelope uh for accountability and and"}, {"start": "00:40:50", "end": "00:40:54", "text": "the truth because otherwise you know"}, {"start": "00:40:52", "end": "00:40:58", "text": "I'll tell everyone right now if it came"}, {"start": "00:40:54", "end": "00:41:01", "text": "out that all UFO events and sightings"}, {"start": "00:40:58", "end": "00:41:03", "text": "were alien. And that would then open the"}, {"start": "00:41:01", "end": "00:41:07", "text": "door that all the criminal things that"}, {"start": "00:41:03", "end": "00:41:09", "text": "have been done and hurtful things such"}, {"start": "00:41:07", "end": "00:41:12", "text": "as abductions and mutilations and the"}, {"start": "00:41:09", "end": "00:41:14", "text": "murder of people by what look like"}, {"start": "00:41:12", "end": "00:41:18", "text": "aliens on spaceships which have all been"}, {"start": "00:41:14", "end": "00:41:21", "text": "done by human operations uh staging"}, {"start": "00:41:18", "end": "00:41:23", "text": "pretending to be alien. That is the"}, {"start": "00:41:21", "end": "00:41:25", "text": "worst case scenario. So, you know, I"}, {"start": "00:41:23", "end": "00:41:29", "text": "said to one person recently here in"}, {"start": "00:41:25", "end": "00:41:32", "text": "Washington, if you have been using that"}, {"start": "00:41:29", "end": "00:41:34", "text": "technology criminally against innocent"}, {"start": "00:41:32", "end": "00:41:36", "text": "civilians, not just here, but all over"}, {"start": "00:41:34", "end": "00:41:38", "text": "the world, you have forfeited the right"}, {"start": "00:41:36", "end": "00:41:42", "text": "to keep that secret. That cannot be kept"}, {"start": "00:41:38", "end": "00:41:44", "text": "secret. So, but now Bob Bigalow who"}, {"start": "00:41:42", "end": "00:41:47", "text": "spends time with the president and was"}, {"start": "00:41:44", "end": "00:41:49", "text": "in the private quarters of Mara Lago on"}, {"start": "00:41:47", "end": "00:41:53", "text": "election night and things like that."}, {"start": "00:41:49", "end": "00:41:56", "text": "They're advising otherwise, right? And"}, {"start": "00:41:53", "end": "00:41:59", "text": "you know, I'm a relatively nobody. Um,"}, {"start": "00:41:56", "end": "00:42:02", "text": "so you know, all I all we can do is keep"}, {"start": "00:41:59", "end": "00:42:06", "text": "telling the truth um and u putting it"}, {"start": "00:42:02", "end": "00:42:08", "text": "out there and then and then have enough"}, {"start": "00:42:06", "end": "00:42:11", "text": "education that we're doing that people"}, {"start": "00:42:08", "end": "00:42:12", "text": "in Congress and uh other people who have"}, {"start": "00:42:11", "end": "00:42:15", "text": "been in the military like General Flynn"}, {"start": "00:42:12", "end": "00:42:17", "text": "and others are learning this and saying"}, {"start": "00:42:15", "end": "00:42:19", "text": "and reinforcing what we're saying. So"}, {"start": "00:42:17", "end": "00:42:21", "text": "that's we need a multiplier effect there"}, {"start": "00:42:19", "end": "00:42:23", "text": "and that's what I've been trying to get"}, {"start": "00:42:21", "end": "00:42:25", "text": "and we have it now. So we'll just see"}, {"start": "00:42:23", "end": "00:42:28", "text": "it's very dynamic. I think people should"}, {"start": "00:42:25", "end": "00:42:30", "text": "be prepared for this being a pretty wild"}, {"start": "00:42:28", "end": "00:42:35", "text": "ride."}, {"start": "00:42:30", "end": "00:42:39", "text": ">> Yep. Are you aware of any uh persons in"}, {"start": "00:42:35", "end": "00:42:41", "text": "the UK that were, you know, taken out,"}, {"start": "00:42:39", "end": "00:42:43", "text": "let's say, or disappeared because they"}, {"start": "00:42:41", "end": "00:42:45", "text": "were trying to bring this subject"}, {"start": "00:42:43", "end": "00:42:47", "text": "forward."}, {"start": "00:42:45", "end": "00:42:49", "text": ">> I do know that has happened. I don't I'm"}, {"start": "00:42:47", "end": "00:42:52", "text": "trying to think if I know the names of"}, {"start": "00:42:49", "end": "00:42:54", "text": "any. years ago. One of the early"}, {"start": "00:42:52", "end": "00:42:56", "text": "disclosure witnesses was a guy named he"}, {"start": "00:42:54", "end": "00:42:58", "text": "was had been military intelligence"}, {"start": "00:42:56", "end": "00:43:02", "text": "United Kingdom named Gordon Kryton and"}, {"start": "00:42:58", "end": "00:43:06", "text": "he published Flying Saucer Review FSR"}, {"start": "00:43:02", "end": "00:43:08", "text": "um which um was a very good journal and"}, {"start": "00:43:06", "end": "00:43:10", "text": "he told me that yes there had been"}, {"start": "00:43:08", "end": "00:43:14", "text": "people that if they're too much trouble"}, {"start": "00:43:10", "end": "00:43:16", "text": "will be erased and uh and removed and he"}, {"start": "00:43:14", "end": "00:43:18", "text": "knew of those. So I, you know, there's"}, {"start": "00:43:16", "end": "00:43:21", "text": "no question that this has happened all"}, {"start": "00:43:18", "end": "00:43:22", "text": "over the world because remember,"}, {"start": "00:43:21", "end": "00:43:25", "text": "everyone makes the mistake of thinking"}, {"start": "00:43:22", "end": "00:43:27", "text": "that this is a, you know, there's a"}, {"start": "00:43:25", "end": "00:43:30", "text": "Chinese and a Russian and American and a"}, {"start": "00:43:27", "end": "00:43:32", "text": "this and a that. No, the group that is"}, {"start": "00:43:30", "end": "00:43:36", "text": "running these covert programs since at"}, {"start": "00:43:32", "end": "00:43:37", "text": "least the 60s have been like a secret UN"}, {"start": "00:43:36", "end": "00:43:40", "text": "where all these different countries"}, {"start": "00:43:37", "end": "00:43:42", "text": "interest are there but in a clandestine"}, {"start": "00:43:40", "end": "00:43:44", "text": "operation that most usually their heads"}, {"start": "00:43:42", "end": "00:43:46", "text": "of state and other people don't know"}, {"start": "00:43:44", "end": "00:43:50", "text": "about. Uh if you look at the testimony"}, {"start": "00:43:46", "end": "00:43:53", "text": "of Carl Wolf who was at the National"}, {"start": "00:43:50", "end": "00:43:56", "text": "Security Agency filtering operation down"}, {"start": "00:43:53", "end": "00:43:59", "text": "at Lag here at Langley Air Force Base in"}, {"start": "00:43:56", "end": "00:44:01", "text": "Virginia in 1968"}, {"start": "00:43:59", "end": "00:44:04", "text": "um when we were downloading the the"}, {"start": "00:44:01", "end": "00:44:07", "text": "early digital images of of the moon by"}, {"start": "00:44:04", "end": "00:44:11", "text": "the lunar orbiter before we landed in '"}, {"start": "00:44:07", "end": "00:44:13", "text": "69 with the lunar module. He said that"}, {"start": "00:44:11", "end": "00:44:15", "text": "that operating center where he would"}, {"start": "00:44:13", "end": "00:44:18", "text": "went in that was very very compartmented"}, {"start": "00:44:15", "end": "00:44:20", "text": "and secret was like a UN. There were"}, {"start": "00:44:18", "end": "00:44:23", "text": "people from China, Russia, the Soviet"}, {"start": "00:44:20", "end": "00:44:25", "text": "Union even then 1968."}, {"start": "00:44:23", "end": "00:44:29", "text": "So people the very the hardest thing"}, {"start": "00:44:25", "end": "00:44:31", "text": "I've had in Washington and and in other"}, {"start": "00:44:29", "end": "00:44:34", "text": "countries is to get people to understand"}, {"start": "00:44:31", "end": "00:44:37", "text": "yes there are compartmented codeamed"}, {"start": "00:44:34", "end": "00:44:41", "text": "SAPS special access projects that are"}, {"start": "00:44:37", "end": "00:44:44", "text": "illegal black ones unagnowledged"}, {"start": "00:44:41", "end": "00:44:46", "text": "in governments but those are actually"}, {"start": "00:44:44", "end": "00:44:49", "text": "tied together at a a more integrated"}, {"start": "00:44:46", "end": "00:44:52", "text": "level that evolved in the late 50s and"}, {"start": "00:44:49", "end": "00:44:54", "text": "60s that involve all of these countries."}, {"start": "00:44:52", "end": "00:44:57", "text": "is not just one. And so everyone's still"}, {"start": "00:44:54", "end": "00:44:59", "text": "looking at it it with a geopolitical map"}, {"start": "00:44:57", "end": "00:45:01", "text": "in their head. And I said, \"No, you need"}, {"start": "00:44:59", "end": "00:45:04", "text": "to look at this as a criminal"}, {"start": "00:45:01", "end": "00:45:07", "text": "transnational organization. It's a tinko"}, {"start": "00:45:04", "end": "00:45:09", "text": "transnational criminal organization.\" Uh"}, {"start": "00:45:07", "end": "00:45:12", "text": "like large, you know, international drug"}, {"start": "00:45:09", "end": "00:45:13", "text": "cartels or large international human"}, {"start": "00:45:12", "end": "00:45:16", "text": "trafficking cartels, but this is the"}, {"start": "00:45:13", "end": "00:45:19", "text": "granddaddy of them. And so I think this"}, {"start": "00:45:16", "end": "00:45:22", "text": "is the the problem is is that people"}, {"start": "00:45:19", "end": "00:45:25", "text": "it's a paradigm adjustment you know to"}, {"start": "00:45:22", "end": "00:45:26", "text": "think of it that way and it's been the"}, {"start": "00:45:25", "end": "00:45:31", "text": "hardest thing for me to get people to"}, {"start": "00:45:26", "end": "00:45:33", "text": "comprehend really understand it uh that"}, {"start": "00:45:31", "end": "00:45:35", "text": "it really doesn't matter what country"}, {"start": "00:45:33", "end": "00:45:37", "text": "you know it's same thing if you wanted"}, {"start": "00:45:35", "end": "00:45:39", "text": "to invent a free energy device and"}, {"start": "00:45:37", "end": "00:45:42", "text": "thought you could keep it secret and"}, {"start": "00:45:39", "end": "00:45:44", "text": "patent move to Brazil they're no there"}, {"start": "00:45:42", "end": "00:45:45", "text": "assets in the Brazilian job they're"}, {"start": "00:45:44", "end": "00:45:48", "text": "going to come out, they're going to kill"}, {"start": "00:45:45", "end": "00:45:51", "text": "you. I mean, this is a global operation"}, {"start": "00:45:48", "end": "00:45:52", "text": "and there is no for this organization,"}, {"start": "00:45:51", "end": "00:45:55", "text": "there are no national boundaries. They"}, {"start": "00:45:52", "end": "00:45:57", "text": "just move across them like they're not"}, {"start": "00:45:55", "end": "00:45:59", "text": "there. So, I mean, by the way, even our"}, {"start": "00:45:57", "end": "00:46:01", "text": "top special forces guys, I know that's"}, {"start": "00:45:59", "end": "00:46:03", "text": "what they do. They can go in and out. No"}, {"start": "00:46:01", "end": "00:46:05", "text": "one knows they were there. But imagine"}, {"start": "00:46:03", "end": "00:46:09", "text": "at this level the kind of technology"}, {"start": "00:46:05", "end": "00:46:11", "text": "they have. uh the object like uh Michael"}, {"start": "00:46:09", "end": "00:46:15", "text": "Herrera saw that was a 300 foot diameter"}, {"start": "00:46:11", "end": "00:46:16", "text": "octagon that went from hover to 100,000"}, {"start": "00:46:15", "end": "00:46:19", "text": "miles per hour over the horizon in one"}, {"start": "00:46:16", "end": "00:46:21", "text": "or two seconds and that's man-made. So,"}, {"start": "00:46:19", "end": "00:46:23", "text": "you know, you're not going to be tracked"}, {"start": "00:46:21", "end": "00:46:25", "text": "on radar and you're not going to be"}, {"start": "00:46:23", "end": "00:46:30", "text": "inter, you know, you're not going to be"}, {"start": "00:46:25", "end": "00:46:33", "text": "interdicted by an F 18 hornet, right?"}, {"start": "00:46:30", "end": "00:46:35", "text": "Not going to happen. So this is the the"}, {"start": "00:46:33", "end": "00:46:36", "text": "issue and this is something we know that"}, {"start": "00:46:35", "end": "00:46:39", "text": "there have these objects that are"}, {"start": "00:46:36", "end": "00:46:42", "text": "man-made UFOs have been tracked in"}, {"start": "00:46:39", "end": "00:46:45", "text": "Russian airspace in China. One was"}, {"start": "00:46:42", "end": "00:46:48", "text": "actually downed in northern Iran and had"}, {"start": "00:46:45", "end": "00:46:50", "text": "to be blown up on the ground in Saitu"}, {"start": "00:46:48", "end": "00:46:53", "text": "right where it landed. Uh and those were"}, {"start": "00:46:50", "end": "00:46:57", "text": "man-made objects that were anti-grab. So"}, {"start": "00:46:53", "end": "00:47:00", "text": "we've had that confirmed by some"}, {"start": "00:46:57", "end": "00:47:04", "text": "inside military folks. So I think that"}, {"start": "00:47:00", "end": "00:47:07", "text": "this is um very complex and this is why"}, {"start": "00:47:04", "end": "00:47:10", "text": "I think at some point if there's an"}, {"start": "00:47:07", "end": "00:47:13", "text": "initial release that then creates more"}, {"start": "00:47:10", "end": "00:47:16", "text": "interest there should be some kind of a"}, {"start": "00:47:13", "end": "00:47:20", "text": "governmental retreat where we should go"}, {"start": "00:47:16", "end": "00:47:22", "text": "in and provide be the subject experts to"}, {"start": "00:47:20", "end": "00:47:24", "text": "unpack all this because and it it needs"}, {"start": "00:47:22", "end": "00:47:27", "text": "to be you know a couple of days I mean"}, {"start": "00:47:24", "end": "00:47:29", "text": "because it's so important uh right now I"}, {"start": "00:47:27", "end": "00:47:32", "text": "don't see that anyone quite except a few"}, {"start": "00:47:29", "end": "00:47:35", "text": "members of Congress uh and some people"}, {"start": "00:47:32", "end": "00:47:38", "text": "who are kind of peripheral"}, {"start": "00:47:35", "end": "00:47:40", "text": "to the cabinet and to the the Oval"}, {"start": "00:47:38", "end": "00:47:44", "text": "Office"}, {"start": "00:47:40", "end": "00:47:46", "text": "um have as deep an understanding as they"}, {"start": "00:47:44", "end": "00:47:49", "text": "need. So this is what I'm hoping will"}, {"start": "00:47:46", "end": "00:47:51", "text": "that will close that gap before the"}, {"start": "00:47:49", "end": "00:47:52", "text": "train leaves the station too much"}, {"start": "00:47:51", "end": "00:47:54", "text": "further."}, {"start": "00:47:52", "end": "00:47:56", "text": ">> Right. Yes. I mean, you know, we're in"}, {"start": "00:47:54", "end": "00:47:58", "text": "this all the time, but most of the"}, {"start": "00:47:56", "end": "00:48:01", "text": "people in government are starting like"}, {"start": "00:47:58", "end": "00:48:01", "text": "at, you know, preschool level on this"}, {"start": "00:48:01", "end": "00:48:04", "text": "subject."}, {"start": "00:48:01", "end": "00:48:06", "text": ">> Zero. Yeah. No. Mo, literally zero. They"}, {"start": "00:48:04", "end": "00:48:07", "text": "have no information."}, {"start": "00:48:06", "end": "00:48:09", "text": ">> Yeah. Almost everyone I've ever briefed"}, {"start": "00:48:07", "end": "00:48:12", "text": "in government, whether it was a CIA"}, {"start": "00:48:09", "end": "00:48:14", "text": "director or even three star generals at"}, {"start": "00:48:12", "end": "00:48:17", "text": "the Pentagon, had no knowledge of it."}, {"start": "00:48:14", "end": "00:48:19", "text": "They were never read in. And so, you"}, {"start": "00:48:17", "end": "00:48:22", "text": "know, when you go from having no"}, {"start": "00:48:19", "end": "00:48:24", "text": "information to this about ready to be"}, {"start": "00:48:22", "end": "00:48:26", "text": "officially acknowledged by the"}, {"start": "00:48:24", "end": "00:48:28", "text": "government,"}, {"start": "00:48:26", "end": "00:48:30", "text": "I think there's a very steep learning"}, {"start": "00:48:28", "end": "00:48:33", "text": "curve, we would say, that needs to"}, {"start": "00:48:30", "end": "00:48:38", "text": "happen in order for it to to occur"}, {"start": "00:48:33", "end": "00:48:38", "text": "safely and appropriately and truthfully."}, {"start": "00:48:38", "end": "00:48:45", "text": ">> Um, do you think there's any suspicious"}, {"start": "00:48:42", "end": "00:48:49", "text": "uh or foul play that uh Lu Alzando had a"}, {"start": "00:48:45", "end": "00:48:51", "text": "very bad bike accident or um I know"}, {"start": "00:48:49", "end": "00:48:53", "text": ">> no I think he ran into some deer. Anyone"}, {"start": "00:48:51", "end": "00:48:54", "text": "who lives out like he does in Wyoming or"}, {"start": "00:48:53", "end": "00:48:57", "text": "where I do out in the Blue Ridge"}, {"start": "00:48:54", "end": "00:48:59", "text": "Mountains, I call them kamicazi deer. I"}, {"start": "00:48:57", "end": "00:49:00", "text": "mean they just jump in front of you all"}, {"start": "00:48:59", "end": "00:49:03", "text": "the time."}, {"start": "00:49:00", "end": "00:49:05", "text": ">> Uh so I think it was just that. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:49:03", "end": "00:49:08", "text": ">> Um and"}, {"start": "00:49:05", "end": "00:49:10", "text": "often you you don't really talk a lot so"}, {"start": "00:49:08", "end": "00:49:14", "text": "much about what ETSs actually look like."}, {"start": "00:49:10", "end": "00:49:16", "text": "Do you have any insights on um you know"}, {"start": "00:49:14", "end": "00:49:18", "text": "their civilizations or things like that"}, {"start": "00:49:16", "end": "00:49:20", "text": "or"}, {"start": "00:49:18", "end": "00:49:23", "text": ">> Yes, that's a very long discussion but"}, {"start": "00:49:20", "end": "00:49:25", "text": "you know look if you can visualize there"}, {"start": "00:49:23", "end": "00:49:26", "text": "there are ones that we've seen that are"}, {"start": "00:49:25", "end": "00:49:28", "text": "a foot foot and a half tall and there"}, {"start": "00:49:26", "end": "00:49:30", "text": "are ones that are 12 feet tall. I"}, {"start": "00:49:28", "end": "00:49:33", "text": "understand there are some that are 30"}, {"start": "00:49:30", "end": "00:49:36", "text": "feet tall that"}, {"start": "00:49:33", "end": "00:49:38", "text": "they're from a myriad of star systems"}, {"start": "00:49:36", "end": "00:49:41", "text": "and planetary systems with different"}, {"start": "00:49:38", "end": "00:49:46", "text": "biological and gravitational and solar"}, {"start": "00:49:41", "end": "00:49:47", "text": "uh energy um you know"}, {"start": "00:49:46", "end": "00:49:50", "text": "environments that would lead to"}, {"start": "00:49:47", "end": "00:49:51", "text": "different evolutionary paths. There are"}, {"start": "00:49:50", "end": "00:49:54", "text": "a couple species that would be like"}, {"start": "00:49:51", "end": "00:49:58", "text": "first cousins to humans that look very"}, {"start": "00:49:54", "end": "00:50:00", "text": "very similar. Uh, I know I met with one"}, {"start": "00:49:58", "end": "00:50:02", "text": "uh when I was first starting this"}, {"start": "00:50:00", "end": "00:50:06", "text": "project in 1990 who looked like a he"}, {"start": "00:50:02", "end": "00:50:09", "text": "looked like a man from Norway but jet"}, {"start": "00:50:06", "end": "00:50:12", "text": "black hair and the strangest blue eyes"}, {"start": "00:50:09", "end": "00:50:14", "text": "um but white white skin but look the"}, {"start": "00:50:12", "end": "00:50:18", "text": "features look like a northern European"}, {"start": "00:50:14", "end": "00:50:20", "text": "um and then you know but on our C5"}, {"start": "00:50:18", "end": "00:50:23", "text": "expeditions we've well you took a"}, {"start": "00:50:20", "end": "00:50:25", "text": "picture of Beiju and then the the healer"}, {"start": "00:50:23", "end": "00:50:27", "text": "has this uh sort of the praying"}, {"start": "00:50:25", "end": "00:50:31", "text": "mantis-shaped triangular head with sort"}, {"start": "00:50:27", "end": "00:50:34", "text": "of a little beak and um and and so there"}, {"start": "00:50:31", "end": "00:50:36", "text": "are all kinds of different species. Now,"}, {"start": "00:50:34", "end": "00:50:39", "text": "keep in mind that a lot of the ones that"}, {"start": "00:50:36", "end": "00:50:41", "text": "people have encountered in abductions"}, {"start": "00:50:39", "end": "00:50:44", "text": "are the hybrid man-made. Some are"}, {"start": "00:50:41", "end": "00:50:46", "text": "robotic. In the early days, I talked to"}, {"start": "00:50:44", "end": "00:50:47", "text": "a man, he said, well, they would find"}, {"start": "00:50:46", "end": "00:50:52", "text": "men of short stature and dress them up"}, {"start": "00:50:47", "end": "00:50:54", "text": "and make them look like an ET. But um"}, {"start": "00:50:52", "end": "00:50:58", "text": "there are many of the ones that people"}, {"start": "00:50:54", "end": "00:51:01", "text": "have encountered are actually weird uh"}, {"start": "00:50:58", "end": "00:51:04", "text": "man-made creepy things uh kind of like a"}, {"start": "00:51:01", "end": "00:51:07", "text": "Frankenstein you know meets space age"}, {"start": "00:51:04", "end": "00:51:09", "text": "sort of story and that's real and I've"}, {"start": "00:51:07", "end": "00:51:12", "text": "known about these so-called programmed"}, {"start": "00:51:09", "end": "00:51:13", "text": "life forms that are biological but they"}, {"start": "00:51:12", "end": "00:51:15", "text": "have integrated circuits in their"}, {"start": "00:51:13", "end": "00:51:18", "text": "cerebral cortex and they're controlled"}, {"start": "00:51:15", "end": "00:51:20", "text": "by humans and those are then used in"}, {"start": "00:51:18", "end": "00:51:23", "text": "mutilations and abductions and all kinds"}, {"start": "00:51:20", "end": "00:51:26", "text": "of weird stuff. So, I think people need"}, {"start": "00:51:23", "end": "00:51:28", "text": "to understand that, you know, one of the"}, {"start": "00:51:26", "end": "00:51:30", "text": "problems with all of this coming out,"}, {"start": "00:51:28", "end": "00:51:34", "text": "it's going to come out on coattails of"}, {"start": "00:51:30", "end": "00:51:37", "text": "70 years of very well orchestrated"}, {"start": "00:51:34", "end": "00:51:39", "text": "uh psychological warfare information,"}, {"start": "00:51:37", "end": "00:51:42", "text": "disinformation, staged fake alien"}, {"start": "00:51:39", "end": "00:51:44", "text": "events, staged abductions. You have"}, {"start": "00:51:42", "end": "00:51:48", "text": "people like this Gary Nolan who took a"}, {"start": "00:51:44", "end": "00:51:50", "text": "ton of money or CIA to be documenting"}, {"start": "00:51:48", "end": "00:51:52", "text": "head trauma and brain injuries done by"}, {"start": "00:51:50", "end": "00:51:54", "text": "the aliens during abductions. And of"}, {"start": "00:51:52", "end": "00:51:57", "text": "course, every one of those people he's"}, {"start": "00:51:54", "end": "00:51:59", "text": "studying have been victimized by humans"}, {"start": "00:51:57", "end": "00:52:02", "text": "using these advanced technologies to"}, {"start": "00:51:59", "end": "00:52:04", "text": "make them look alien. And we know this"}, {"start": "00:52:02", "end": "00:52:07", "text": "and but you know is the president going"}, {"start": "00:52:04", "end": "00:52:09", "text": "to know this? Is Pete Hexth going to"}, {"start": "00:52:07", "end": "00:52:11", "text": "know this? Is the DNI going to know"}, {"start": "00:52:09", "end": "00:52:14", "text": "this? Now, I have been very explicit"}, {"start": "00:52:11", "end": "00:52:16", "text": "about this with key members of Congress"}, {"start": "00:52:14", "end": "00:52:17", "text": "that I've had a lot of private time with"}, {"start": "00:52:16", "end": "00:52:20", "text": "and with people who are very close to"}, {"start": "00:52:17", "end": "00:52:23", "text": "the president and our personal friends."}, {"start": "00:52:20", "end": "00:52:25", "text": "But how much of this is sinking in, I"}, {"start": "00:52:23", "end": "00:52:28", "text": "don't know. And and and this is where it"}, {"start": "00:52:25", "end": "00:52:30", "text": "gets into a very risky business uh right"}, {"start": "00:52:28", "end": "00:52:33", "text": "now where if it comes out incorrectly or"}, {"start": "00:52:30", "end": "00:52:37", "text": "with a lot of that false mythology"}, {"start": "00:52:33", "end": "00:52:38", "text": "combined with the truth, um then we're"}, {"start": "00:52:37", "end": "00:52:39", "text": "going to have our work cut out for us."}, {"start": "00:52:38", "end": "00:52:42", "text": "disclosure project is going to have to"}, {"start": "00:52:39", "end": "00:52:42", "text": "lean into that very heavily,"}, {"start": "00:52:42", "end": "00:52:44", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:52:42", "end": "00:52:46", "text": ">> And so will the public. you all you guys"}, {"start": "00:52:44", "end": "00:52:48", "text": "need to be writing to your to the"}, {"start": "00:52:46", "end": "00:52:49", "text": "president and your members of Congress"}, {"start": "00:52:48", "end": "00:52:52", "text": "and if you're in another country your"}, {"start": "00:52:49", "end": "00:52:54", "text": "your members of your parliament or prime"}, {"start": "00:52:52", "end": "00:52:55", "text": "minister and saying you know you really"}, {"start": "00:52:54", "end": "00:52:58", "text": "need to get to the bottom of this but"}, {"start": "00:52:55", "end": "00:53:00", "text": "here's a link to the briefing document"}, {"start": "00:52:58", "end": "00:53:01", "text": "because this briefing document we did"}, {"start": "00:53:00", "end": "00:53:05", "text": "for this president we have published as"}, {"start": "00:53:01", "end": "00:53:08", "text": "you all know and you can you know send"}, {"start": "00:53:05", "end": "00:53:10", "text": "those people a copy which you should"}, {"start": "00:53:08", "end": "00:53:13", "text": "actually"}, {"start": "00:53:10", "end": "00:53:16", "text": ">> right um someone's asking if you had"}, {"start": "00:53:13", "end": "00:53:18", "text": "debriefed uh Representative Berett, but"}, {"start": "00:53:16", "end": "00:53:19", "text": "you have provided a lot of intelligence"}, {"start": "00:53:18", "end": "00:53:21", "text": "to him."}, {"start": "00:53:19", "end": "00:53:22", "text": ">> Oh yeah, many. Oh, yeah. For years."}, {"start": "00:53:21", "end": "00:53:24", "text": "Yeah. I' I've been providing information"}, {"start": "00:53:22", "end": "00:53:27", "text": "to him for"}, {"start": "00:53:24", "end": "00:53:27", "text": ">> four years. I don't know. A long time."}, {"start": "00:53:27", "end": "00:53:28", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:53:27", "end": "00:53:31", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:53:28", "end": "00:53:34", "text": ">> Yeah. Well, and he's, you know, he he is"}, {"start": "00:53:31", "end": "00:53:38", "text": "dive a deep dive and then Congressman"}, {"start": "00:53:34", "end": "00:53:42", "text": "Berles now I've also met with"}, {"start": "00:53:38", "end": "00:53:44", "text": "Ogles of Missouri and um you know I've"}, {"start": "00:53:42", "end": "00:53:46", "text": "had long discussions with Moscowitz"}, {"start": "00:53:44", "end": "00:53:49", "text": "who's a Democrat in Florida who's on the"}, {"start": "00:53:46", "end": "00:53:51", "text": "House oversight. So yes, of course. I"}, {"start": "00:53:49", "end": "00:53:54", "text": "mean, um, the people who are"}, {"start": "00:53:51", "end": "00:53:57", "text": "right-handed to Marco Rubio I worked"}, {"start": "00:53:54", "end": "00:53:58", "text": "with for two or three years and he is"}, {"start": "00:53:57", "end": "00:54:00", "text": "now Secretary of State, National"}, {"start": "00:53:58", "end": "00:54:03", "text": "Security Adviser. Me, he's wearing two"}, {"start": "00:54:00", "end": "00:54:05", "text": "hats. So, um, yeah, there there there's"}, {"start": "00:54:03", "end": "00:54:07", "text": "a there's a lot of information that has"}, {"start": "00:54:05", "end": "00:54:09", "text": "been given directly by me meeting with"}, {"start": "00:54:07", "end": "00:54:12", "text": "these people. I'm here in Washington"}, {"start": "00:54:09", "end": "00:54:15", "text": "now. I'm here because Demi Lovado"}, {"start": "00:54:12", "end": "00:54:17", "text": "Thursday night was playing at the uh,"}, {"start": "00:54:15", "end": "00:54:20", "text": "Capitol One Arena. It was packed. It was"}, {"start": "00:54:17", "end": "00:54:22", "text": "great and she's a very big supporter of"}, {"start": "00:54:20", "end": "00:54:25", "text": "C5 and what we're doing and disclosure."}, {"start": "00:54:22", "end": "00:54:27", "text": "So I went backstage and we hung out for"}, {"start": "00:54:25", "end": "00:54:28", "text": "a while before her show and then I got I"}, {"start": "00:54:27", "end": "00:54:30", "text": "got to see her show. I'd actually never"}, {"start": "00:54:28", "end": "00:54:34", "text": "seen her perform. She has an amazing"}, {"start": "00:54:30", "end": "00:54:35", "text": "voice. Um but uh"}, {"start": "00:54:34", "end": "00:54:37", "text": ">> that's very cool."}, {"start": "00:54:35", "end": "00:54:40", "text": ">> Yeah, it was fun. We had fun."}, {"start": "00:54:37", "end": "00:54:41", "text": ">> Yeah, we we put the picture up on social"}, {"start": "00:54:40", "end": "00:54:42", "text": "media so of you guys backstage."}, {"start": "00:54:41", "end": "00:54:45", "text": ">> Oh, that's right. Yes. Yeah, that's"}, {"start": "00:54:42", "end": "00:54:48", "text": "right. Yeah, backstage hanging out. She"}, {"start": "00:54:45", "end": "00:54:50", "text": "had she had the the green room for the"}, {"start": "00:54:48", "end": "00:54:52", "text": "celebrity candles and then it was"}, {"start": "00:54:50", "end": "00:54:54", "text": "beautiful. It's like, \"Oh, I wish we had"}, {"start": "00:54:52", "end": "00:54:55", "text": "time to meditate. We could do C5 right"}, {"start": "00:54:54", "end": "00:54:58", "text": "here.\" But I mean, she was getting ready"}, {"start": "00:54:55", "end": "00:54:59", "text": "to go on stage with, I don't know, 10 or"}, {"start": "00:54:58", "end": "00:55:03", "text": "20,000 people"}, {"start": "00:54:59", "end": "00:55:05", "text": ">> in the arena. But, you know, it was fun."}, {"start": "00:55:03", "end": "00:55:07", "text": "Try to make it fun."}, {"start": "00:55:05", "end": "00:55:07", "text": ">> Yeah, you got to have fun in between all"}, {"start": "00:55:07", "end": "00:55:09", "text": "this"}, {"start": "00:55:07", "end": "00:55:12", "text": ">> crazy chaos."}, {"start": "00:55:09", "end": "00:55:14", "text": ">> You know me, I always can make have fun."}, {"start": "00:55:12", "end": "00:55:17", "text": ">> That's right."}, {"start": "00:55:14", "end": "00:55:22", "text": "Um, have you heard of an approaching"}, {"start": "00:55:17", "end": "00:55:23", "text": "giant planet um called her her cobulus?"}, {"start": "00:55:22", "end": "00:55:24", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "00:55:23", "end": "00:55:25", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:55:24", "end": "00:55:27", "text": ">> I haven't I don't have any information"}, {"start": "00:55:25", "end": "00:55:28", "text": "about I mean, you know, there are all"}, {"start": "00:55:27", "end": "00:55:31", "text": "these stories of this thing and that"}, {"start": "00:55:28", "end": "00:55:32", "text": "thing and if if I I don't if I don't see"}, {"start": "00:55:31", "end": "00:55:35", "text": "it myself"}, {"start": "00:55:32", "end": "00:55:37", "text": ">> or if I don't have a credible source,"}, {"start": "00:55:35", "end": "00:55:40", "text": ">> you know, it's like that Avi Lobe"}, {"start": "00:55:37", "end": "00:55:41", "text": "saying, \"Oh, this comet was a alien"}, {"start": "00:55:40", "end": "00:55:44", "text": "spaceship.\" And then there was this"}, {"start": "00:55:41", "end": "00:55:47", "text": "quack on Gaia saying it had however many"}, {"start": "00:55:44", "end": "00:55:50", "text": "a million reptilian aliens on it or some"}, {"start": "00:55:47", "end": "00:55:51", "text": "bizarre stupid thing. None of which was"}, {"start": "00:55:50", "end": "00:55:54", "text": "true. But I always tell people don't"}, {"start": "00:55:51", "end": "00:55:57", "text": "forget Avi Lo has been lobbying for him"}, {"start": "00:55:54", "end": "00:55:59", "text": "to receive a $1 billion dollar of our"}, {"start": "00:55:57", "end": "00:56:02", "text": "tax dollars to set up a planetary"}, {"start": "00:55:59", "end": "00:56:05", "text": "defense system against the oh the"}, {"start": "00:56:02", "end": "00:56:07", "text": "aliens. No, he's a total shill for this"}, {"start": "00:56:05", "end": "00:56:09", "text": "corrupt secret government. And so yeah,"}, {"start": "00:56:07", "end": "00:56:13", "text": "I tell people I said, \"Consider the"}, {"start": "00:56:09", "end": "00:56:15", "text": "freaking source.\" All right? Somebody"}, {"start": "00:56:13", "end": "00:56:19", "text": "who is making up nonsense like that,"}, {"start": "00:56:15", "end": "00:56:21", "text": "scare tactics to try to get gullible"}, {"start": "00:56:19", "end": "00:56:24", "text": "people in the government to pony up a"}, {"start": "00:56:21", "end": "00:56:27", "text": "billion dollars for something we do not"}, {"start": "00:56:24", "end": "00:56:29", "text": "need and wouldn't work even if we needed"}, {"start": "00:56:27", "end": "00:56:31", "text": "it. You know, what does he think he's"}, {"start": "00:56:29", "end": "00:56:33", "text": "going to put up there? I mean, these"}, {"start": "00:56:31", "end": "00:56:34", "text": "civilizations were so advanced, if they"}, {"start": "00:56:33", "end": "00:56:36", "text": "were hostile, we'd be gone. Even"}, {"start": "00:56:34", "end": "00:56:38", "text": "Congressman Burchett said that a couple"}, {"start": "00:56:36", "end": "00:56:40", "text": "years ago, you know, because once he"}, {"start": "00:56:38", "end": "00:56:42", "text": "realized what those technologies were,"}, {"start": "00:56:40", "end": "00:56:44", "text": "they were hostile. Boom. I mean, we"}, {"start": "00:56:42", "end": "00:56:47", "text": "started knocking them out of the sky"}, {"start": "00:56:44", "end": "00:56:49", "text": "when they had we had vacuum tubes and"}, {"start": "00:56:47", "end": "00:56:52", "text": "didn't even have jet aircraft flying"}, {"start": "00:56:49", "end": "00:56:54", "text": "regularly and barely had a rocket."}, {"start": "00:56:52", "end": "00:56:57", "text": "Hadn't even put Sputnik in space and we"}, {"start": "00:56:54", "end": "00:57:00", "text": "were using electromagnetic weapons to"}, {"start": "00:56:57", "end": "00:57:03", "text": "down ET craft in the late 40s and 50s."}, {"start": "00:57:00", "end": "00:57:06", "text": "So if they were hostile, you know, it"}, {"start": "00:57:03", "end": "00:57:08", "text": "would have been all over probably before"}, {"start": "00:57:06", "end": "00:57:10", "text": "I was born in 1955."}, {"start": "00:57:08", "end": "00:57:15", "text": "So I go to people, I said, \"Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:57:10", "end": "00:57:19", "text": "whatever.\" That that's just a"}, {"start": "00:57:15", "end": "00:57:21", "text": "psychological warfare talking point. Um"}, {"start": "00:57:19", "end": "00:57:22", "text": "and but you're going to have a lot of"}, {"start": "00:57:21", "end": "00:57:26", "text": "people who want that to be the truth"}, {"start": "00:57:22", "end": "00:57:29", "text": "because I think you know there is a huge"}, {"start": "00:57:26", "end": "00:57:33", "text": "element of people in the Pentagon in the"}, {"start": "00:57:29", "end": "00:57:36", "text": "system who want to have a threat from"}, {"start": "00:57:33", "end": "00:57:38", "text": "outer space and to unite the world"}, {"start": "00:57:36", "end": "00:57:43", "text": "around a militaristic"}, {"start": "00:57:38", "end": "00:57:43", "text": "sort of totalitarian system."}]

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Watch what he's worried about."}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "But even here in the United States, if"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "we're going to be building, let's say,"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "these 1 gawatt data centers, how do we"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "make sure we're not protecting those 50"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "billion75 billion investments?"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "The we have to reook at everything"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "because of the role of drone warfare."}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "Right now, we're looking at it"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "internationally, but you know, one of my"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "concerns is could it be a domestic"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "terrorism using a $3,000 drone? 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Are weren't we against slavery?"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "We were. How do we do that? But that"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "doesn't seem to be Larry Frink's main"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "concern. His main concern is how do we"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "protect our investment, this"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "infrastructure, these buildings, these"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "data centers? Someone could drone them."}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "Someone could drone them. Now, who?"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "FOREIGN ACTORS? HEZBOLLAH? HAMAS? NO,"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "NO, NO. JUST PEOPLE. 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So bad that they might be"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "willing to commit an act of terrorism, a"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "felony for which they could be"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "imprisoned for a long time. 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And"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "that's been for maybe 2 and 1/2 months."}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "If the straight is opened by next month,"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "which is best case scenario, we have no"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "idea if that's going to happen or not."}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "Let's just say it did. 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So that has massive effects on the"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "price of everything. And now everyone's"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "kind of an amateur expert on the need"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "for energy and global supply chains and"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "all this stuff."}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "what we have been misled about for the"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "last 15 years because of climate"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "orthodoxy. We're now learning the hard"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "way, which is you need fossil fuels and"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "you need them for all kinds of things,"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "but you need them primarily for"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "electricity. It's not oil really. It's"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "natural gas and coal that produce the"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "world's electricity. But without them,"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "electricity prices spike. And when they"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "do, the price of everything else spikes,"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "including just living in your house or"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "your apartment or anywhere. Because"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "cheap energy is the key to prosperity"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "and in fact civilization itself. 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It's"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "easy to explain, very easy to"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "understand, maybe a little bit harder to"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "fix, but at least within the realm of"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "the explicable."}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "Here's what's less expected. At exactly"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "the moment this is happening, energy"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "becoming more expensive,"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "global supply chains more fragile, you"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "are hearing first a chorus and then just"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "a screaming crowd of demands for more"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "energy production. 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That would be understandable."}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "No, this chorus is coming from the"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "people in charge, which is to say,"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "elected officials,"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "think tank grandees, and most"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "interestingly of all, captains of"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "finance, the richest people in the"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "world, all of a sudden are telling you,"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "\"We need to produce more energy.\" That's"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "a little weird because this exact group"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "for again the past at least 15 years"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "since Al Gore was famous has been"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "telling you exactly the opposite."}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "They've been telling you that energy is"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "not the source of life, not the base of"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "civilization, but it's the cause of"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "humanity's downfall. It's the"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "destruction of the earth. It's the main"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "reason we have climate change. CO2 is"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "the reason it's getting warmer, which by"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "the way it is"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "because climate cycles are part of"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "nature."}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "That's why we had glaciers and now"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "don't. But whatever they've been telling"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "us for this last generation that burning"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "fossil fuels was not just bad for the"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "environment, but a sin and it was the"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "main sin against which we should"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "organize all of our society. Like"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "everyone had to be carbon conscious all"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "the time because we love the earth."}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "Now, those exact same people up to and"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "including the father of ESG himself,"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "Larry Frink at Black Rockck, are all"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "telling us, \"We're going to take a pause"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "on the concern for global warming. We"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "need more electricity.\" And the truth"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "about electricity is it does not come"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "from renewables."}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "The overwhelming majority of electricity"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "on planet Earth comes from, well, the"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "same place it always came from, boiling"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "water, which moves turbines. and to boil"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "water. 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It's industrial age"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "technology. is the same technology,"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "refined a little bit, cleaned up a bit,"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "but basically the same. And so those"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "people who spent all this time telling"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "us that that technology was not just"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "inefficient, but morally wrong, are now"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "calling for a massive expansion of it."}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "It's kind of crazy if you think like"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "what is this? Well, of course, it's one"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "thing. It's AI. AI, artificial"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "intelligence,"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "a dramatic a quantum as they say"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "increase in processing power, computer"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "processing power which will allow"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "computers the machine"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "to reason to mimic human thinking and"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "thereby replace a lot of human labor."}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "That's the idea. 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So,"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "the base of the California economy"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "three-fold. It was, of course,"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "agriculture, and that's still huge in"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "California, the Central Valley, the"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "richest farmland in the world, most"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "fertile ground on the planet. It was"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "aerospace, mostly in Southern"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "California. That would be aircraft and"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "anything that goes into into space to"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "defend us. And it was entertainment. 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The foundation of"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "the conspiracy for human enslavement is"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "control of human perception."}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "that that that's the foundation of it."}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "Everything is is basically aimed at"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "that. If the way we perceive is the way"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "we behave, we behave as we do because we"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "perceive as we do."}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:15", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:17", "text": ">> And so, how do you get people to"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "perceive what you want? 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What they've had to do"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "up to this point to achieve that is to"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "control information."}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "You've got this global cult uh this"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "network of secret societies which is"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "fiercely compartmentalized."}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "Even within um this uh cult network"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "vast numbers of people the majority I"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "would say are not I definitely would say"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "are are not aware of the big picture."}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:03", "text": ">> I mean you look at the the Freemasons um"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "that's broken up into degrees. Degrees"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "of what? Degrees of knowledge. Um so"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "you're looking at the inner circle uh of"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "these um secret societies"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "uh where the the the the knowledge of"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "the the real agenda um is held and and"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "even beyond that you're looking at the"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "inner circle of the cult itself. But"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "there are certain factions of this cult"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "shall we say that are um particularly"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "important in advancing this um global"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "agenda of human AI digital dystopia"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "and one of them is the Sabatian cult."}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "You go back to the 1600s and a bloke"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "called um Sabati Zevi, Sabati um relates"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "to the planet Saturn, which is uh a big"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "time uh part of all this in terms of the"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "religious symbolism and and occult"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "symbolism that that you see over and"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "over. He claimed to be the Jewish"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "Messiah and he lived in the um former"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "Ottoman Empire which was an Islamic"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "empire and he attracted a tremendous"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "following for his time when the"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "population of the world was much"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "smaller. Then the the Sultan of the"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "Ottoman Empire said to him, you either"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "prove you are the Messiah or you convert"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "to Islam or there'll be bloody trouble."}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "So he decided to convert to Islam which"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "um shall we say disappointed a lot of"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "his followers but a lot of them"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "converted with him and they converted to"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "Islam except they didn't. They openly uh"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "were apparently Islamic and they became"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "known um as the donma which means to"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "turn but they didn't turn. They just"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "appeared to turn and they created this"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "this cult which was actually not a"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "Judaistic cult. It was an inversion of"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "Judaism. For instance, if there was a uh"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "a fasting day in Judaism, it would be a"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "um a feasting day in Sabatianism."}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "This started"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "a"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "trend"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "with sabotanism"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "where you appear to be something"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "while you're something very different. M"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:42", "text": ">> so um a sabotan would for instance enter"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "the Roman Catholic Church and appear to"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "everyone looking on to be a Catholic"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "except they're not. They're a sabotan"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "infiltrating Catholicism."}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "And the following century 1700s along"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "came a guy called Jacob Frank. He"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "claimed to be a reincarnation of Zabati"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "uh Zevi uh and uh Sabatai Zevi and um"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "also a a reincarnation of the the Old"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "Testament um prophet Jacob or oligarch"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "as we call him today. He was the one"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "that took Sabatianism"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "into a whole new level of uh"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "manipulation and infiltration. Part it"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "massively uh part of it was to"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "infiltrate the Roman Catholic Church"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "which didn't need a lot of infiltration."}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "And if you um if you look at the inner"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "circle and where the Roman Catholic"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "Church actually came from, he"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "um"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "connected with um a guy called Mayor"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "Amto Rothschild"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "and another guy called Adam Vicep"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "who um together created what was called"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "the Bavarian Illuminati in 1776. Another"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "expression of this cult. So the"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "Rothschilds are not actually uh Jewish."}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "They're Sabatian."}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "And if you look at the um history of the"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "creation of modern Israel and the um the"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "first Zionist conference in Bal,"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "Switzerland in the latter years of the"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "um 1800s,"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "um you uh see that the Rothschilds were"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "the orchestrators of it. And by the way,"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "um, that first Zionist Congress, I think"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "it was 1897,"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "was in Bal, Switzerland. Yes. But it was"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "supposed to be in Munich, Germany."}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "The reason it wasn't is that the"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "Zionists had so much push back from"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "Jewish people in Germany who had no"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "interest whatsoever in upping sticks."}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "They were fine, thank you very much. and"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "heading for Palestine."}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "Uh and then you had the first world war,"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "the second world war and and after the"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "second world war understandably um"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "Jewish people in Germany were out of the"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "place in vast numbers to America and to"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "Palestine. All orchestrated"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "terms of the Palestinian occupation by"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "the Rothschilds who were Sabotans."}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "And then um in 1948 you had the the"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "establishment of the state of Israel"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "based on the Old Testament which is a"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "load of old nonsense in terms of the the"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "justification of it. Prime Minister"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "after prime minister after prime"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "minister has been a sabotan. And how the"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "Sabatians work, uh, as I said a few"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "minutes ago, is they present themselves"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "as one of you and they manipulate"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "themselves to positions of power, either"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "over power or advisor power, just one"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "step back, and they run the show, but"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "the population look at them and think"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "that they're being run by their own"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "people. They're not. It's a completely"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "different uh network uh of sabotanism"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "connected to the um to the global cult."}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "And I first came across this sabotanism"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "when it was um exposed by a Jewish rabbi"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "in uh two books. The books were written"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "a a long time uh apart. It was a guy"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "called Antelman um who uh wrote the"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "books and he uh eventually realized this"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "rabbi that this sabotianism"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "um network was real and it was running"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "Israel and it was basically had taken"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "over uh the whole perception of the"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "Jewish people. And so once you are in a"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "position of power, you then can dominate"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "the circulation of information. What has"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "happened in Gaza to the Palestinians,"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "what has happened since 1948 and before"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "to the Palestinians is utterly"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "grotesque, utterly appalling and and and"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "and beyond bloody belief. But that's"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "what religious belief does and the"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "chosen people belief does. But once you"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "are in a position of power and you can"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "control the uh education of kids and you"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "could control um this the circulation of"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "information to a very large extent, then"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "you can start indoctrinating"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "your target population who are Jewish,"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "not Sabatian, into believing what you"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "want them to believe. Cuz the more you"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "centralize, the more the fewer have"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "power over the many. The more you"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "centralize, the many are controlled by"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "fewer and fewer people. That's why in"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "the end they want a world government"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "which would be not elected but selected"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "called a a technocracy which um Elon"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "Musk's grandfather was was all for and a"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "lot of things happen happening now can"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "be can be explained by that whole"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "technocracy um agenda. They created the"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "Rockefellers with the Rothschild input"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "of course the World Health Organization"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "cuz what they wanted to do was put"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "control of global health policy under"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "one roof and and the extent to which"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "they have done that COVID I rest my case"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "and the guy who's running the World"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "Health Organization and oversaw saw the"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "appointment of this crook called Ted"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "Ross, the um the director general"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "um was it secretary general whatever and"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "um"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "is is Bill Gates and Bill Gates is a"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "Rockefeller Gopher."}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:06", "text": ">> So so it it it makes sense that a"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "Rockefeller gopher Gates would be"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "running the World Health Organization on"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "behalf of the Rockefellers who actually"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "created it. So this"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "Rothschild, Rockefeller, axis"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "combination have have yes been um"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "involved in um in so much of what this"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "cult has done. Uh and you know you look"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "at David Rockefeller who he best part of"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "100 by the time he died. Um uh he was um"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "a uh manipulator"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "um across decade after decade after"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "decade pushing the world to this"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "centralization of power which is now um"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "being taken over by by AI. Henry"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "Kissinger"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "um a manipulator out of Germany um a a"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "Jewish manipulator out of Germany"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "Sabatian manipulator truth um was a"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "gopher for the Rockefellers Claus Schwab"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "of the World Economic Forum just stepped"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "down he was a protetéé"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "and put into that position by Henry"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "Kissinger"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "who was a gopher for the Rockefellers,"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "who are gophers for the Rothschilds,"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "etc. You see how the hierarchy works."}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:26", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:29", "text": ">> Um, and and you know, you keep going"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "deeper and deeper and and you you go"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "into levels of this cult which do not"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "put themselves on public display and in"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "the end it goes um into another"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "dimension. In the early 90s when I were"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "was putting together this cult and how"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "it worked, seems a long time ago now,"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "but I was doing it in the early '90s, I"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "I started to see as the '90s unfolded"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "that so many of these uh inner circle"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "cultists that I could I could I could"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "acknowledge uh and and and see, like I"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "say, the the the the real power is in"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "the unseen."}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "they were taking part in satanic ritual"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "like human sacrifice ritual and they"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "were um very much involved in in in in"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "the pedophilia and pedophile networks."}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "So you say hold on"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "what's going on here? What why what's"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "all this about? I've talked over the the"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "decades to"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "a lot of Satanists, former Satanists,"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "uh, and people who took part in satanic"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "ritual against their will, various ways"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "and for various reasons."}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "And they, um, told me the stories about"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "how they are interacting"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "um, in these rituals with other"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "dimensional quote gods. They're not"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "gods. They're bunch of prats. But um"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "they're perceived as gods. The next"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "thing you you um you see is actually"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "hold on a minute. But the ancients were"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "sacrificing people to the gods. What's"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "all this about? And what the ancients"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "said, and this happened all over the"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "world, is that they were um sacrificing"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "people as a gift to the gods. And the"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "next question, well, what do the gods"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "get out of that? Well, that is explained"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "by something else I've come across over"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "the years, which more and more people,"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "funnily enough, are talking about now."}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "These gods, these other dimensional gods"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "are feeding off human energy."}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "That's why they've created this"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "simulated reality. And that's why"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "they've created this wheel of samsara"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "trap. So, so you don't get out. you can"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "get out. Explain in the book how you can"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "get out. But if you if you if you're not"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "aware, you you you you don't get out."}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "You just go on this wheel of samsara in"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "this constant cycle of reincarnation and"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "um producing this this energy. Now um"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "it's a particular type of human energy"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "they want which explains so much about"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "the world. They want low vibrational"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "human emotion uh and mental energy but"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "particularly emotion very powerful and"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "that is um fear, anxiety, depression,"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "hatred, regret, resentment, war,"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "conflict."}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "All these things create and generate"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "from humans a low vibrational frequency."}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "Every time we think and feel emotion,"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "we're generating a frequency."}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:54", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:58", "text": ">> Now, this frequency relates to the"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "nature of the emotion. So, the the ones"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "that I've talked about, they are low"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "vibrational emotions. Joy, love,"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "happiness, peace, contentment, and"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "appreciation. These are all much higher"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "frequency states that we we give off."}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:17", "text": "You'd think that they'd want to feed off"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "of that, but you know, people do this,"}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "too. We talk about, you know, energy"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "siphoning our siphoning off of us from"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "these negative frequencies, but people"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "do that, too. Narcissists and evil"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "people, they they put you in these"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "states and make you angry and trigger"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "you just to feed off of you and drain"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "you. Humans do that."}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:40", "text": ">> And then you ask, well,"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "who who's controlling them as well, you"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "know? So uh when um when I was"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "researching all this um I came across"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "the work of um a guy called Robert"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "Monroe of the Monroe Institute um who"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "was an astral traveler. He had this"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "ability to project his consciousness"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "into the astral dimension. Not not"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "through a near-death experience. The"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "body doesn't have to die to astral"}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "project. This is after I concluded this"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "luch thing which he called it luch. I'd"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "call it low vibrational energy before."}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "What he learned in his astral travels"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:19", "text": "was that these entities were um feeding"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "off low vibrational human energy and he"}, {"start": "00:20:19", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "gave the the name to it uh luch. The US"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "military became so interested in what he"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "was doing that they set up a a project"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "called Gateway in which um they brought"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "him and other people who had this astral"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "traveling gift together to do this study"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "this gateway study into the astral."}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "First of all they concluded because the"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "eventually the report was declassified"}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:53", "text": "by the CIA some years ago. They"}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "concluded that reincarnation was real."}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:21:02", "text": "But they also mentioned that so many of"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "the subjects in the astral travelers"}, {"start": "00:21:02", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "came across in the astral reptilian"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "entities that they gave them the name uh"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "in the gateway project of the"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:13", "text": "alligators. Oh, we have seen some more"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "alligators."}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:20", "text": "uh and and as as I've become infamous"}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "for since the 1990s, um that uh"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:28", "text": "reptilian um uh form is is massively"}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "part of this these astral these astral"}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "gods. The other thing that you you"}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "notice is that you know we have these um"}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "pantheons of gods like these series of"}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "gods in the different cultures like the"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "Greek pantheon, the Egyptian pantheon,"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "the Roman pantheon etc. They're"}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "everywhere"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:50", "text": "all over the world. There were these"}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "pantheons of gods. I mean in the Hindu"}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "religion there they still have these"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "pantheon of gods. They gave them"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "different names cuz they had different"}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:21:59", "text": "languages and different cultures. But"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "what you realize is they're talking"}, {"start": "00:21:59", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "about the same gods. You you you have"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "this um scene in the um Matrix movie,"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:10", "text": "the first one, the Morpheus character"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "holds up the battery."}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:15", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:18", "text": ">> Says the Matrix is a computerenerated"}, {"start": "00:22:15", "end": "00:22:20", "text": "dream world designed to turn humans into"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:23", "text": "one of these, a battery, a a source of"}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "energy. Exactly. That was a a"}, {"start": "00:22:23", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "tremendously profound line in what was"}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:33", "text": "supposed to be a fictional movie. And so"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:37", "text": "we come back to the the the satanic"}, {"start": "00:22:33", "end": "00:22:39", "text": "rituals. What were the gift to the gods"}, {"start": "00:22:37", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "still going on? What what be what's"}, {"start": "00:22:39", "end": "00:22:46", "text": "become clear to me in these rituals"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "ancient and now in secret modern they"}, {"start": "00:22:46", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "are conducting them specifically to"}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:56", "text": "generate maximum terror in the victim."}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:59", "text": "And uh if if I um was looking at someone"}, {"start": "00:22:56", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "and they were in an an emotional state"}, {"start": "00:22:59", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "may of terror maybe then I would see"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:07", "text": "from their facial expression and their"}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:09", "text": "body language the state they were in."}, {"start": "00:23:07", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "What I wouldn't be able to see because"}, {"start": "00:23:09", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "it's outside of visible light is the"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:17", "text": "energy they're giving off as a result of"}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:19", "text": "that of that state of emotion. What's"}, {"start": "00:23:17", "end": "00:23:23", "text": "happening in these rituals? This is the"}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:26", "text": "gift to the gods. Is that um some of"}, {"start": "00:23:23", "end": "00:23:29", "text": "these gods are over gods. They're"}, {"start": "00:23:26", "end": "00:23:31", "text": "perceived as gods. Uh this this is this"}, {"start": "00:23:29", "end": "00:23:33", "text": "is a family podcast. I can't say what I"}, {"start": "00:23:31", "end": "00:23:35", "text": "think of them really."}, {"start": "00:23:33", "end": "00:23:38", "text": ">> They can."}, {"start": "00:23:35", "end": "00:23:41", "text": "And so they're overseeing it in the"}, {"start": "00:23:38", "end": "00:23:43", "text": "astral. And the reason we can't see the"}, {"start": "00:23:41", "end": "00:23:45", "text": "emotions that people are giving off is"}, {"start": "00:23:43", "end": "00:23:48", "text": "it's an astral um it's an astral"}, {"start": "00:23:45", "end": "00:23:52", "text": "frequency. It's going into the astral"}, {"start": "00:23:48", "end": "00:23:56", "text": "and they are feeding off it. The terror"}, {"start": "00:23:52", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "in the victim has the um effect of"}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:24:02", "text": "releasing an adrenaline into the blood."}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:06", "text": "And this is what the Satan is conducting"}, {"start": "00:24:02", "end": "00:24:09", "text": "the ritual in our reality. Drink. And"}, {"start": "00:24:06", "end": "00:24:10", "text": "that's what we call adrenochrome."}, {"start": "00:24:09", "end": "00:24:12", "text": ">> That that's that's of course"}, {"start": "00:24:10", "end": "00:24:13", "text": ">> they're doing that for real. Are we"}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:16", "text": "talking about this from an energetic"}, {"start": "00:24:13", "end": "00:24:19", "text": "standpoint and a reality standpoint?"}, {"start": "00:24:16", "end": "00:24:21", "text": "Because obviously there are many stories"}, {"start": "00:24:19", "end": "00:24:25", "text": "and speculation on adrenal chrome and"}, {"start": "00:24:21", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "harvesting the blood of people in this"}, {"start": "00:24:25", "end": "00:24:31", "text": "fierce state or children. So it's really"}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:34", "text": "happening in this world. Exactly. Uh the"}, {"start": "00:24:31", "end": "00:24:38", "text": "the Satanists in this reality drink the"}, {"start": "00:24:34", "end": "00:24:41", "text": "blood and the entities in the astral"}, {"start": "00:24:38", "end": "00:24:41", "text": "reality absorb the energy."}, {"start": "00:24:41", "end": "00:24:44", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:24:41", "end": "00:24:48", "text": ">> Uh that's the gift to the gods. And what"}, {"start": "00:24:44", "end": "00:24:50", "text": "I also realized a as as we went along"}, {"start": "00:24:48", "end": "00:24:53", "text": "and constantly asked the question, why?"}, {"start": "00:24:50", "end": "00:24:54", "text": "What? What don't I know? Um is the"}, {"start": "00:24:53", "end": "00:24:58", "text": "connection"}, {"start": "00:24:54", "end": "00:25:00", "text": "between Satanism and pedophilia."}, {"start": "00:24:58", "end": "00:25:01", "text": "It's the the same thing"}, {"start": "00:25:00", "end": "00:25:02", "text": ">> really."}, {"start": "00:25:01", "end": "00:25:05", "text": ">> Um"}, {"start": "00:25:02", "end": "00:25:08", "text": ">> why why is pedophilia"}, {"start": "00:25:05", "end": "00:25:10", "text": ">> is it like stealing their innocence and"}, {"start": "00:25:08", "end": "00:25:11", "text": "damaging in them to keep them in this"}, {"start": "00:25:10", "end": "00:25:15", "text": "state?"}, {"start": "00:25:11", "end": "00:25:19", "text": ">> For some reason they want a child's"}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:21", "text": "energy before puberty. We see puberty as"}, {"start": "00:25:19", "end": "00:25:24", "text": "like a hormonal change in a child."}, {"start": "00:25:21", "end": "00:25:28", "text": ">> Mhm. But the hormonal change comes from"}, {"start": "00:25:24", "end": "00:25:30", "text": "an energetic vibrational change as the"}, {"start": "00:25:28", "end": "00:25:33", "text": "energetic field changes as you move into"}, {"start": "00:25:30", "end": "00:25:36", "text": "adulthood. What they want is that energy"}, {"start": "00:25:33", "end": "00:25:40", "text": "before that change. This is the whole"}, {"start": "00:25:36", "end": "00:25:43", "text": "basis of pedophilia. They don't want a a"}, {"start": "00:25:40", "end": "00:25:45", "text": "child's energy"}, {"start": "00:25:43", "end": "00:25:48", "text": "who is happy"}, {"start": "00:25:45", "end": "00:25:51", "text": "uh content uh joyous. They don't want"}, {"start": "00:25:48", "end": "00:25:53", "text": "that energy. You can stick that. That's"}, {"start": "00:25:51", "end": "00:25:54", "text": "that's why the world is as it is. That"}, {"start": "00:25:53", "end": "00:25:56", "text": "that's why the world is as it is."}, {"start": "00:25:54", "end": "00:25:58", "text": "They're they're only they want to"}, {"start": "00:25:56", "end": "00:26:00", "text": "manipulate people through the"}, {"start": "00:25:58", "end": "00:26:03", "text": "manipulation of events, through the"}, {"start": "00:26:00", "end": "00:26:06", "text": "global cult"}, {"start": "00:26:03", "end": "00:26:08", "text": "um a low vibrational state in their"}, {"start": "00:26:06", "end": "00:26:10", "text": "reaction to events. Think 9/11, think"}, {"start": "00:26:08", "end": "00:26:13", "text": "first world war, second world war, etc.,"}, {"start": "00:26:10", "end": "00:26:15", "text": "etc. Think Gaza, think uh the the"}, {"start": "00:26:13", "end": "00:26:20", "text": "Ukraine conflict, all of it. They have"}, {"start": "00:26:15", "end": "00:26:23", "text": "to get that pre-bupant energy"}, {"start": "00:26:20", "end": "00:26:25", "text": "in a low vibrational state."}, {"start": "00:26:23", "end": "00:26:28", "text": "And that's the abuse of children."}, {"start": "00:26:25", "end": "00:26:31", "text": ">> Um I mean that I I I've researched this"}, {"start": "00:26:28", "end": "00:26:35", "text": "to the nth degree through the 1990s and"}, {"start": "00:26:31", "end": "00:26:40", "text": "across into the new millennium. And um"}, {"start": "00:26:35", "end": "00:26:44", "text": "what this cult in secret puts um"}, {"start": "00:26:40", "end": "00:26:47", "text": "children through in their captive state"}, {"start": "00:26:44", "end": "00:26:50", "text": "is is is almost unimaginable."}, {"start": "00:26:47", "end": "00:26:54", "text": "And I've talked to so many uh women in"}, {"start": "00:26:50", "end": "00:26:58", "text": "America and in um Europe and Australia"}, {"start": "00:26:54", "end": "00:27:01", "text": "and other places um who tell the same uh"}, {"start": "00:26:58", "end": "00:27:04", "text": "uh story of what happened to them as uh"}, {"start": "00:27:01", "end": "00:27:09", "text": "as children. So the more the the the the"}, {"start": "00:27:04", "end": "00:27:11", "text": "child can be abused violently,"}, {"start": "00:27:09", "end": "00:27:15", "text": "uh the more they can be sexually abused"}, {"start": "00:27:11", "end": "00:27:19", "text": "as a little kid, the more the energy of"}, {"start": "00:27:15", "end": "00:27:22", "text": "the child understandably"}, {"start": "00:27:19", "end": "00:27:24", "text": "takes on a very low vibrational state."}, {"start": "00:27:22", "end": "00:27:27", "text": "And that's the state they want the"}, {"start": "00:27:24", "end": "00:27:28", "text": "child's energy in to absorb to absorb"}, {"start": "00:27:27", "end": "00:27:30", "text": "it. Um and and you know,"}, {"start": "00:27:28", "end": "00:27:32", "text": ">> for the rest of their life."}, {"start": "00:27:30", "end": "00:27:34", "text": ">> Yeah. But this is the point. You can"}, {"start": "00:27:32", "end": "00:27:37", "text": "change the they can change their energy"}, {"start": "00:27:34", "end": "00:27:39", "text": "as they awaken to a another level of"}, {"start": "00:27:37", "end": "00:27:43", "text": "consciousness. Uh and they can break"}, {"start": "00:27:39", "end": "00:27:45", "text": "that cycle. But I I if it's crossed your"}, {"start": "00:27:43", "end": "00:27:48", "text": "line in terms of evidence because of all"}, {"start": "00:27:45", "end": "00:27:50", "text": "the people you've met and all the things"}, {"start": "00:27:48", "end": "00:27:52", "text": "you've heard"}, {"start": "00:27:50", "end": "00:27:54", "text": "from so many different people in so many"}, {"start": "00:27:52", "end": "00:27:57", "text": "different parts of the world cuz it's a"}, {"start": "00:27:54", "end": "00:28:00", "text": "global agenda. If it if if if you think"}, {"start": "00:27:57", "end": "00:28:01", "text": "it's true, then freaking say it. What"}, {"start": "00:28:00", "end": "00:28:05", "text": "what's the point in not saying it? You"}, {"start": "00:28:01", "end": "00:28:08", "text": "know, te tell tell the kids being abused"}, {"start": "00:28:05", "end": "00:28:10", "text": "now that oh no. Oh, I'm a bit frightened"}, {"start": "00:28:08", "end": "00:28:12", "text": "of what people might think. I don't give"}, {"start": "00:28:10", "end": "00:28:14", "text": "a damn what people think. I give a damn"}, {"start": "00:28:12", "end": "00:28:16", "text": "about whether it's true or not. When you"}, {"start": "00:28:14", "end": "00:28:18", "text": "say these things, it's like when I first"}, {"start": "00:28:16", "end": "00:28:20", "text": "started talking about them, it was kind"}, {"start": "00:28:18", "end": "00:28:22", "text": "of obviously completely far out and to a"}, {"start": "00:28:20", "end": "00:28:26", "text": "lot of people it still is, but nothing"}, {"start": "00:28:22", "end": "00:28:30", "text": "like what used to be. um because people"}, {"start": "00:28:26", "end": "00:28:32", "text": "have are starting to to grasp in very in"}, {"start": "00:28:30", "end": "00:28:35", "text": "very greater numbers"}, {"start": "00:28:32", "end": "00:28:37", "text": "um that the world is not just a little"}, {"start": "00:28:35", "end": "00:28:39", "text": "bit not like they thought it was. It's"}, {"start": "00:28:37", "end": "00:28:40", "text": "absolutely nothing like they thought it"}, {"start": "00:28:39", "end": "00:28:43", "text": "was. And what I would say to the"}, {"start": "00:28:40", "end": "00:28:44", "text": "alternative media and there are some"}, {"start": "00:28:43", "end": "00:28:46", "text": "great people in the alternative media"}, {"start": "00:28:44", "end": "00:28:48", "text": "and there's some really really"}, {"start": "00:28:46", "end": "00:28:51", "text": "unpleasant manipulative people in the"}, {"start": "00:28:48", "end": "00:28:53", "text": "alternative media. They tend to get the"}, {"start": "00:28:51", "end": "00:28:55", "text": "the algorithmic support and the and the"}, {"start": "00:28:53", "end": "00:28:59", "text": "massive funding. But I would say to"}, {"start": "00:28:55", "end": "00:29:02", "text": "them, you know, don't stop"}, {"start": "00:28:59", "end": "00:29:04", "text": "with Trump or Harris,"}, {"start": "00:29:02", "end": "00:29:07", "text": "Democrats or"}, {"start": "00:29:04", "end": "00:29:10", "text": "Republicans."}, {"start": "00:29:07", "end": "00:29:12", "text": "Focus your mind on the fact that"}, {"start": "00:29:10", "end": "00:29:17", "text": "whatever you think you know, there's"}, {"start": "00:29:12", "end": "00:29:19", "text": "always more to know and expand your mind"}, {"start": "00:29:17", "end": "00:29:22", "text": "into other possibilities. But you see"}, {"start": "00:29:19", "end": "00:29:25", "text": "here again"}, {"start": "00:29:22", "end": "00:29:29", "text": "going on from what we said before, the"}, {"start": "00:29:25", "end": "00:29:32", "text": "alternative media, not least in America,"}, {"start": "00:29:29", "end": "00:29:35", "text": "elsewhere too to a large extent, but"}, {"start": "00:29:32", "end": "00:29:38", "text": "massively in America is dominated by the"}, {"start": "00:29:35", "end": "00:29:44", "text": "Christian belief system."}, {"start": "00:29:38", "end": "00:29:47", "text": "And and so there's this um these walls"}, {"start": "00:29:44", "end": "00:29:48", "text": "of here and no further, otherwise I'm"}, {"start": "00:29:47", "end": "00:29:51", "text": "not a Christian anymore."}, {"start": "00:29:48", "end": "00:29:54", "text": "And in fact, you know what I've watched"}, {"start": "00:29:51", "end": "00:29:56", "text": "particularly since um uh co kicking me"}, {"start": "00:29:54", "end": "00:30:02", "text": "bloody table there um particularly since"}, {"start": "00:29:56", "end": "00:30:04", "text": "co um is how the um the central core"}, {"start": "00:30:02", "end": "00:30:08", "text": "um which gets all the algorithmic"}, {"start": "00:30:04", "end": "00:30:10", "text": "support and and the um the funding has"}, {"start": "00:30:08", "end": "00:30:14", "text": "has come in from the mainstream"}, {"start": "00:30:10", "end": "00:30:17", "text": "overwhelmingly and taken over that"}, {"start": "00:30:14", "end": "00:30:19", "text": "central part of the um of the"}, {"start": "00:30:17", "end": "00:30:22", "text": "alternative media. media and it's"}, {"start": "00:30:19", "end": "00:30:26", "text": "dominated by the Christian belief system"}, {"start": "00:30:22", "end": "00:30:29", "text": "and others have in recent times"}, {"start": "00:30:26", "end": "00:30:33", "text": "converted to Christianity or converted"}, {"start": "00:30:29", "end": "00:30:37", "text": "to Catholicism the I would say the most"}, {"start": "00:30:33", "end": "00:30:40", "text": "extreme form of Christianity but um it's"}, {"start": "00:30:37", "end": "00:30:42", "text": "um if you're if you're a journalist"}, {"start": "00:30:40", "end": "00:30:44", "text": "never mind never mind an alternative"}, {"start": "00:30:42", "end": "00:30:47", "text": "journalist if you're a journalist"}, {"start": "00:30:44", "end": "00:30:49", "text": "first of all you've got to clear your"}, {"start": "00:30:47", "end": "00:30:53", "text": "mind of belief systems and let the"}, {"start": "00:30:49", "end": "00:30:55", "text": "evidence be your guide. Cuz otherwise"}, {"start": "00:30:53", "end": "00:30:58", "text": "there's areas you will not go into and"}, {"start": "00:30:55", "end": "00:31:01", "text": "you will not talk about I if if you if"}, {"start": "00:30:58", "end": "00:31:04", "text": "your belief system is um is is under"}, {"start": "00:31:01", "end": "00:31:09", "text": "threat if you go there. Uh and and you"}, {"start": "00:31:04", "end": "00:31:12", "text": "must not ever take a side in terms of"}, {"start": "00:31:09", "end": "00:31:14", "text": "politics and in terms of uh religion."}, {"start": "00:31:12", "end": "00:31:16", "text": "You can have your religious belief if"}, {"start": "00:31:14", "end": "00:31:19", "text": "you like. You don't take a side because"}, {"start": "00:31:16", "end": "00:31:22", "text": "once you take a side the right or the"}, {"start": "00:31:19", "end": "00:31:26", "text": "left you are filtering evidence"}, {"start": "00:31:22", "end": "00:31:30", "text": "information through that belief system"}, {"start": "00:31:26", "end": "00:31:32", "text": ">> which um it it explains why"}, {"start": "00:31:30", "end": "00:31:36", "text": "I' I've seen the so-called alternative"}, {"start": "00:31:32", "end": "00:31:41", "text": "media castigating the left when it had"}, {"start": "00:31:36", "end": "00:31:44", "text": "power under Biden and Obama."}, {"start": "00:31:41", "end": "00:31:48", "text": "What passes for the left anyway. um uh"}, {"start": "00:31:44", "end": "00:31:52", "text": "uh uh for doing certain things."}, {"start": "00:31:48", "end": "00:31:55", "text": "And then I see Trump doing exactly the"}, {"start": "00:31:52", "end": "00:31:57", "text": "same things and and and and his regime"}, {"start": "00:31:55", "end": "00:32:00", "text": "doing exactly the same things. And the"}, {"start": "00:31:57", "end": "00:32:02", "text": "same people who castigated the left are"}, {"start": "00:32:00", "end": "00:32:04", "text": "okay with it with with Trump doing it"}, {"start": "00:32:02", "end": "00:32:08", "text": "cuz he's the right. He's one of them. He"}, {"start": "00:32:04", "end": "00:32:11", "text": "ain't but he's claims to be. And and and"}, {"start": "00:32:08", "end": "00:32:14", "text": "you you can't have these filters. The"}, {"start": "00:32:11", "end": "00:32:15", "text": "only filter that you you need to have if"}, {"start": "00:32:14", "end": "00:32:17", "text": "you're an alternative journalist or a"}, {"start": "00:32:15", "end": "00:32:20", "text": "journalist in general in my view. I used"}, {"start": "00:32:17", "end": "00:32:21", "text": "to be one of them. I still am but with"}, {"start": "00:32:20", "end": "00:32:25", "text": "without an editor telling me what I can"}, {"start": "00:32:21", "end": "00:32:28", "text": "and cannot say. If you have a filter,"}, {"start": "00:32:25", "end": "00:32:31", "text": "the only filter should be is it true or"}, {"start": "00:32:28", "end": "00:32:34", "text": "not? Can I justify it or not on the"}, {"start": "00:32:31", "end": "00:32:35", "text": "basis of the evidence I have? It's not"}, {"start": "00:32:34", "end": "00:32:37", "text": "is the right doing it or is the left"}, {"start": "00:32:35", "end": "00:32:39", "text": "doing it. That should be irrelevant to"}, {"start": "00:32:37", "end": "00:32:41", "text": "you. What I'm saying is this bigger"}, {"start": "00:32:39", "end": "00:32:45", "text": "picture that we're talking about here,"}, {"start": "00:32:41", "end": "00:32:48", "text": "so much that happens in the human world"}, {"start": "00:32:45", "end": "00:32:50", "text": "can only be understood if you see that"}, {"start": "00:32:48", "end": "00:32:51", "text": "level of it. If you're only seeing this"}, {"start": "00:32:50", "end": "00:32:53", "text": "level of it, it it's kind of"}, {"start": "00:32:51", "end": "00:32:55", "text": "bewildering. Why do they do that? Why do"}, {"start": "00:32:53", "end": "00:32:57", "text": "they do this? I was going to feel like"}, {"start": "00:32:55", "end": "00:33:00", "text": "you kind of were answering it, but I was"}, {"start": "00:32:57", "end": "00:33:02", "text": "going to wrap up by asking you something"}, {"start": "00:33:00", "end": "00:33:05", "text": "that I contemplated"}, {"start": "00:33:02", "end": "00:33:07", "text": "many many times and that's whether or"}, {"start": "00:33:05", "end": "00:33:09", "text": "not you fight the system or you"}, {"start": "00:33:07", "end": "00:33:11", "text": "essentially remove yourself from the"}, {"start": "00:33:09", "end": "00:33:13", "text": "system and I feel like you were kind of"}, {"start": "00:33:11", "end": "00:33:16", "text": "answering that but really it sounds like"}, {"start": "00:33:13", "end": "00:33:19", "text": "it boils down to not having sort of like"}, {"start": "00:33:16", "end": "00:33:22", "text": "a religious-like stance on anything and"}, {"start": "00:33:19", "end": "00:33:24", "text": "it's about staying open-minded. Do we"}, {"start": "00:33:22", "end": "00:33:27", "text": "fight the system or do we remove"}, {"start": "00:33:24", "end": "00:33:30", "text": "ourselves and try and adjust or change"}, {"start": "00:33:27", "end": "00:33:32", "text": "our perception and open it up?"}, {"start": "00:33:30", "end": "00:33:35", "text": ">> Well, I've had a phrase I've used for"}, {"start": "00:33:32", "end": "00:33:37", "text": "decades. Um, what you fight, you become."}, {"start": "00:33:35", "end": "00:33:40", "text": "And I think there's endless evidence of"}, {"start": "00:33:37", "end": "00:33:42", "text": "that, that when you fight something,"}, {"start": "00:33:40", "end": "00:33:44", "text": ">> you you often become what you're"}, {"start": "00:33:42", "end": "00:33:46", "text": "fighting. Uh, in the act,"}, {"start": "00:33:44", "end": "00:33:47", "text": ">> you're playing into it ultimately."}, {"start": "00:33:46", "end": "00:33:50", "text": "You're playing into it. You're"}, {"start": "00:33:47", "end": "00:33:55", "text": "participating in that narrative. Do we"}, {"start": "00:33:50", "end": "00:33:59", "text": "fight the system? No. You know, people"}, {"start": "00:33:55", "end": "00:34:01", "text": "uh they ask for solutions."}, {"start": "00:33:59", "end": "00:34:03", "text": "I I'm not interested in solutions. I'm"}, {"start": "00:34:01", "end": "00:34:06", "text": "not looking for solutions cuz solutions"}, {"start": "00:34:03", "end": "00:34:09", "text": "invariably lead to more problems in need"}, {"start": "00:34:06", "end": "00:34:11", "text": "of more solutions. What I'm looking for"}, {"start": "00:34:09", "end": "00:34:14", "text": "uh when I'm looking at something that"}, {"start": "00:34:11", "end": "00:34:16", "text": "we'd rather not have is what's the cause"}, {"start": "00:34:14", "end": "00:34:19", "text": "of it."}, {"start": "00:34:16", "end": "00:34:21", "text": "If you remove the cause of a problem,"}, {"start": "00:34:19", "end": "00:34:24", "text": "the problem must disappear cuz its whole"}, {"start": "00:34:21", "end": "00:34:26", "text": "basis is gone. The cause is very simple."}, {"start": "00:34:24", "end": "00:34:28", "text": "Uh it's simple mathematics. Uh we're"}, {"start": "00:34:26", "end": "00:34:30", "text": "supposed to have that 8 billion people"}, {"start": "00:34:28", "end": "00:34:34", "text": "in the world. The number of people in"}, {"start": "00:34:30", "end": "00:34:37", "text": "full knowledge who are um manipulating"}, {"start": "00:34:34", "end": "00:34:39", "text": "that 8 billion is a smear by comparison."}, {"start": "00:34:37", "end": "00:34:41", "text": "Tiny."}, {"start": "00:34:39", "end": "00:34:44", "text": "and they have to control our perceptions"}, {"start": "00:34:41", "end": "00:34:46", "text": "and they have to manipulate us into"}, {"start": "00:34:44", "end": "00:34:47", "text": "unquestioning belief systems that can be"}, {"start": "00:34:46", "end": "00:34:50", "text": "played off against each other. Then we"}, {"start": "00:34:47", "end": "00:34:52", "text": "fight each other and they they have a"}, {"start": "00:34:50", "end": "00:34:54", "text": "free run to do what they like. Having"}, {"start": "00:34:52", "end": "00:34:57", "text": "the respect for someone else to have a"}, {"start": "00:34:54", "end": "00:35:01", "text": "different belief system to you so long"}, {"start": "00:34:57", "end": "00:35:04", "text": "as they do not seek to impose their"}, {"start": "00:35:01", "end": "00:35:06", "text": "belief system on you. The big problem is"}, {"start": "00:35:04", "end": "00:35:09", "text": "that people uh they they have a belief"}, {"start": "00:35:06", "end": "00:35:11", "text": "system and and they want to they want to"}, {"start": "00:35:09", "end": "00:35:15", "text": "impose it on others. That's the problem."}, {"start": "00:35:11", "end": "00:35:16", "text": "I mean, you know, let's um let's have a"}, {"start": "00:35:15", "end": "00:35:18", "text": "chat about your belief system and my"}, {"start": "00:35:16", "end": "00:35:20", "text": "belief system and you know, okay, well,"}, {"start": "00:35:18", "end": "00:35:22", "text": "I don't agree with you, but you know, no"}, {"start": "00:35:20", "end": "00:35:24", "text": "problem. You have a right to believe"}, {"start": "00:35:22", "end": "00:35:26", "text": "what you believe. Once you start trying"}, {"start": "00:35:24", "end": "00:35:28", "text": "to force it on someone else, that's the"}, {"start": "00:35:26", "end": "00:35:32", "text": "bloody problem. And and all over the"}, {"start": "00:35:28", "end": "00:35:36", "text": "world, religious believing parents are"}, {"start": "00:35:32", "end": "00:35:37", "text": "forcing their beliefs on their kids."}, {"start": "00:35:36", "end": "00:35:40", "text": ">> And that for me is a form of child"}, {"start": "00:35:37", "end": "00:35:42", "text": "abuse. Just my view. The the the"}, {"start": "00:35:40", "end": "00:35:44", "text": "foundation"}, {"start": "00:35:42", "end": "00:35:47", "text": "of human control"}, {"start": "00:35:44", "end": "00:35:49", "text": "apart from perceptual"}, {"start": "00:35:47", "end": "00:35:51", "text": "control is giving your power away to"}, {"start": "00:35:49", "end": "00:35:55", "text": "authority."}, {"start": "00:35:51", "end": "00:35:59", "text": "Because when you have these billions and"}, {"start": "00:35:55", "end": "00:36:03", "text": "and the few manipulating them, somehow"}, {"start": "00:35:59", "end": "00:36:07", "text": "you've got to manipulate that collective"}, {"start": "00:36:03", "end": "00:36:09", "text": "power which overnight could roll you"}, {"start": "00:36:07", "end": "00:36:11", "text": "away."}, {"start": "00:36:09", "end": "00:36:14", "text": "You've got to get that population to"}, {"start": "00:36:11", "end": "00:36:16", "text": "give their power to you. And they do"}, {"start": "00:36:14", "end": "00:36:19", "text": "this through authority. So there's three"}, {"start": "00:36:16", "end": "00:36:22", "text": "types of people basically."}, {"start": "00:36:19", "end": "00:36:24", "text": "And the first two"}, {"start": "00:36:22", "end": "00:36:29", "text": "uh are responsible for every tyranny in"}, {"start": "00:36:24", "end": "00:36:34", "text": "history. Number one group where"}, {"start": "00:36:29", "end": "00:36:37", "text": "they um do what uh uh authority tells"}, {"start": "00:36:34", "end": "00:36:40", "text": "them without question. Authority has"}, {"start": "00:36:37", "end": "00:36:42", "text": "said it. They know better than me. So"}, {"start": "00:36:40", "end": "00:36:45", "text": "and and they have my best interest at"}, {"start": "00:36:42", "end": "00:36:48", "text": "heart. Staggering but true. And"}, {"start": "00:36:45", "end": "00:36:51", "text": "therefore I do what they tell me."}, {"start": "00:36:48", "end": "00:36:53", "text": "Second group, they don't want to do it,"}, {"start": "00:36:51", "end": "00:36:57", "text": "but they're frightened of not doing it."}, {"start": "00:36:53", "end": "00:37:00", "text": "They're frightened um of not um"}, {"start": "00:36:57", "end": "00:37:02", "text": "acquiescing to authority. And those two"}, {"start": "00:37:00", "end": "00:37:05", "text": "groups have been responsible for every"}, {"start": "00:37:02", "end": "00:37:08", "text": "tyranny in history. Fascism, communism,"}, {"start": "00:37:05", "end": "00:37:11", "text": "tyranny is never imposed by fascist,"}, {"start": "00:37:08", "end": "00:37:15", "text": "communists, and tyrants because there's"}, {"start": "00:37:11", "end": "00:37:18", "text": "never enough of them. They are they"}, {"start": "00:37:15", "end": "00:37:23", "text": "impose those uh tyrannies"}, {"start": "00:37:18", "end": "00:37:26", "text": "not by um by doing it themselves but by"}, {"start": "00:37:23", "end": "00:37:30", "text": "the acquiescence of the people to them."}, {"start": "00:37:26", "end": "00:37:32", "text": "they give their power away to them um"}, {"start": "00:37:30", "end": "00:37:34", "text": "overwhelmingly because they're, you"}, {"start": "00:37:32", "end": "00:37:37", "text": "know, like like Nazi Germany. You you"}, {"start": "00:37:34", "end": "00:37:39", "text": "had people who just believe yes in in"}, {"start": "00:37:37", "end": "00:37:40", "text": "what the Nazis said. Yes, we're the"}, {"start": "00:37:39", "end": "00:37:43", "text": "great German nation and all that stuff."}, {"start": "00:37:40", "end": "00:37:44", "text": "And you had others who thought, well, I"}, {"start": "00:37:43", "end": "00:37:45", "text": "don't agree with this, but I better do"}, {"start": "00:37:44", "end": "00:37:48", "text": "it cuz otherwise what's going to happen"}, {"start": "00:37:45", "end": "00:37:51", "text": "to me? That they're the two. The third"}, {"start": "00:37:48", "end": "00:37:53", "text": "group um has ended every tyranny in"}, {"start": "00:37:51", "end": "00:37:57", "text": "history and has the potential to um to"}, {"start": "00:37:53", "end": "00:37:59", "text": "end this one globally if enough um"}, {"start": "00:37:57", "end": "00:38:01", "text": "people awaken to it. And that's the"}, {"start": "00:37:59", "end": "00:38:04", "text": "group that says, \"I can see what you're"}, {"start": "00:38:01", "end": "00:38:06", "text": "doing cuz I've opened my mind and I've"}, {"start": "00:38:04", "end": "00:38:08", "text": "seen how it works and I'm not"}, {"start": "00:38:06", "end": "00:38:12", "text": "cooperating with it. I'm not doing what"}, {"start": "00:38:08", "end": "00:38:15", "text": "you tell us to do.\" And if you look at"}, {"start": "00:38:12", "end": "00:38:17", "text": "various revolutions which always kind of"}, {"start": "00:38:15", "end": "00:38:20", "text": "lead to the same people being in in"}, {"start": "00:38:17", "end": "00:38:22", "text": "power but the the principle is the same."}, {"start": "00:38:20", "end": "00:38:24", "text": "It's the few people that start it. Some"}, {"start": "00:38:22", "end": "00:38:25", "text": "of this other group particularly the"}, {"start": "00:38:24", "end": "00:38:27", "text": "group that doesn't want to do it but"}, {"start": "00:38:25", "end": "00:38:30", "text": "it's right they're not doing it. They"}, {"start": "00:38:27", "end": "00:38:33", "text": "will will join them and and eventually"}, {"start": "00:38:30", "end": "00:38:36", "text": "enough people are behind the uh the the"}, {"start": "00:38:33", "end": "00:38:38", "text": "the overthrow of a of a tyrant to"}, {"start": "00:38:36", "end": "00:38:41", "text": "overthrow them. Um, but it's the few"}, {"start": "00:38:38", "end": "00:38:42", "text": "that start that start doing it and then"}, {"start": "00:38:41", "end": "00:38:47", "text": "the others kind of pick up and go with"}, {"start": "00:38:42", "end": "00:38:50", "text": "it. And what we need to do is to get far"}, {"start": "00:38:47", "end": "00:38:53", "text": "far more people who are willing to let"}, {"start": "00:38:50", "end": "00:38:56", "text": "go of the fear of authority go with"}, {"start": "00:38:53", "end": "00:38:58", "text": "ceasing to acquies to authority. If a"}, {"start": "00:38:56", "end": "00:39:01", "text": "politician comes out and said this is"}, {"start": "00:38:58", "end": "00:39:02", "text": "what's going to happen and enough of the"}, {"start": "00:39:01", "end": "00:39:05", "text": "people say we're not doing it, the"}, {"start": "00:39:02", "end": "00:39:08", "text": "politician has no power whatsoever."}, {"start": "00:39:05", "end": "00:39:10", "text": "None. they never have had. We've always"}, {"start": "00:39:08", "end": "00:39:12", "text": "had it."}, {"start": "00:39:10", "end": "00:39:13", "text": ">> But what we what we're manipulated to do"}, {"start": "00:39:12", "end": "00:39:14", "text": "is to give it away."}, {"start": "00:39:13", "end": "00:39:17", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:39:14", "end": "00:39:21", "text": ">> To to um to authority. So, first of all,"}, {"start": "00:39:17", "end": "00:39:25", "text": "in across what we call history, you've"}, {"start": "00:39:21", "end": "00:39:27", "text": "had the the the principle of monarchy"}, {"start": "00:39:25", "end": "00:39:31", "text": "in which you know the genetic"}, {"start": "00:39:27", "end": "00:39:33", "text": "inheritance um becomes the monarch and"}, {"start": "00:39:31", "end": "00:39:35", "text": "the people then obey the monarch. And"}, {"start": "00:39:33", "end": "00:39:38", "text": "then when the people started to get into"}, {"start": "00:39:35", "end": "00:39:42", "text": "a level of maturity, we still got a"}, {"start": "00:39:38", "end": "00:39:46", "text": "monarch in Britain by the way. Um just"}, {"start": "00:39:42", "end": "00:39:48", "text": "we reached the point of of um maturity"}, {"start": "00:39:46", "end": "00:39:50", "text": "to the point where we weren't having it"}, {"start": "00:39:48", "end": "00:39:53", "text": "anymore or globally we weren't having it"}, {"start": "00:39:50", "end": "00:39:57", "text": "anymore. Still having it in Britain"}, {"start": "00:39:53", "end": "00:40:01", "text": "staggeringly. They had to um create a"}, {"start": "00:39:57", "end": "00:40:03", "text": "new system and that system was politics."}, {"start": "00:40:01", "end": "00:40:06", "text": "That's why they introduce political"}, {"start": "00:40:03", "end": "00:40:09", "text": "parties because parties are hierarchies"}, {"start": "00:40:06", "end": "00:40:14", "text": "that they can control. And so you've got"}, {"start": "00:40:09", "end": "00:40:17", "text": "um uh Obama, Bush,"}, {"start": "00:40:14", "end": "00:40:19", "text": "um Biden, Trump,"}, {"start": "00:40:17", "end": "00:40:23", "text": "Clinton,"}, {"start": "00:40:19", "end": "00:40:26", "text": "different parties, same owners and the"}, {"start": "00:40:23", "end": "00:40:27", "text": "same direction of society, different"}, {"start": "00:40:26", "end": "00:40:30", "text": "rhetoric,"}, {"start": "00:40:27", "end": "00:40:32", "text": "sometimes a slightly different route,"}, {"start": "00:40:30", "end": "00:40:36", "text": "but the same end to global dystopia."}, {"start": "00:40:32", "end": "00:40:40", "text": "which is why we despite all the party"}, {"start": "00:40:36", "end": "00:40:42", "text": "changes A to B, A to B, A to B, B to A,"}, {"start": "00:40:40", "end": "00:40:46", "text": "um we've we've reached the point where"}, {"start": "00:40:42", "end": "00:40:50", "text": "we are um now and and and still today"}, {"start": "00:40:46", "end": "00:40:53", "text": "continues to be the means to replace the"}, {"start": "00:40:50", "end": "00:40:56", "text": "monarchy power. Give your power away to"}, {"start": "00:40:53", "end": "00:41:00", "text": "a a monarch. you now give your your your"}, {"start": "00:40:56", "end": "00:41:05", "text": "mind away, your power away to a um a"}, {"start": "00:41:00", "end": "00:41:08", "text": "political party or a party um leader."}, {"start": "00:41:05", "end": "00:41:12", "text": ">> And um every 3 or 4 years you have an"}, {"start": "00:41:08", "end": "00:41:16", "text": "election campaign, the parties tell you"}, {"start": "00:41:12", "end": "00:41:18", "text": "what they think you want to hear."}, {"start": "00:41:16", "end": "00:41:21", "text": "They'll look at their natural"}, {"start": "00:41:18", "end": "00:41:24", "text": "constituency"}, {"start": "00:41:21", "end": "00:41:27", "text": "that they want to vote for them and"}, {"start": "00:41:24", "end": "00:41:29", "text": "usually votes for them and they will"}, {"start": "00:41:27", "end": "00:41:31", "text": "tell that constituency what it wants to"}, {"start": "00:41:29", "end": "00:41:35", "text": "hear. They're then also looking for this"}, {"start": "00:41:31", "end": "00:41:38", "text": "other group that kind of jumps between"}, {"start": "00:41:35", "end": "00:41:41", "text": "the two parties. What do I tell them"}, {"start": "00:41:38", "end": "00:41:43", "text": "what they want to hear so that I'll get"}, {"start": "00:41:41", "end": "00:41:46", "text": "just enough to get in? And that's what"}, {"start": "00:41:43", "end": "00:41:49", "text": "they do. But there's no contract. What"}, {"start": "00:41:46", "end": "00:41:50", "text": "they say they will do is not what they"}, {"start": "00:41:49", "end": "00:41:52", "text": "have to do."}, {"start": "00:41:50", "end": "00:41:54", "text": ">> What they say they won't do is not what"}, {"start": "00:41:52", "end": "00:41:57", "text": "they have to not do. They've just told"}, {"start": "00:41:54", "end": "00:41:59", "text": "you what they what you want to hear and"}, {"start": "00:41:57", "end": "00:42:01", "text": "then you vote for them. And then when"}, {"start": "00:41:59", "end": "00:42:04", "text": "they get in, they do what they planned"}, {"start": "00:42:01", "end": "00:42:08", "text": "all along. There was no mention of"}, {"start": "00:42:04", "end": "00:42:11", "text": "invading Venezuela, no mention of Canada"}, {"start": "00:42:08", "end": "00:42:13", "text": "as the 51st state, no mention of taking"}, {"start": "00:42:11", "end": "00:42:15", "text": "over Greenland. All of which can be"}, {"start": "00:42:13", "end": "00:42:18", "text": "explained by technocracy, by the way,"}, {"start": "00:42:15", "end": "00:42:23", "text": "and a map that was produced in the 1930s"}, {"start": "00:42:18", "end": "00:42:25", "text": "by Musk's grandfather. Um, you you you"}, {"start": "00:42:23", "end": "00:42:27", "text": "are stuck with it because now they're in"}, {"start": "00:42:25", "end": "00:42:29", "text": "power for the next four years. And it's"}, {"start": "00:42:27", "end": "00:42:31", "text": "the same in this country. We have K"}, {"start": "00:42:29", "end": "00:42:35", "text": "Starmer, the prime minister of Britain,"}, {"start": "00:42:31", "end": "00:42:39", "text": "and his Labor party. They got onethird"}, {"start": "00:42:35", "end": "00:42:41", "text": "of the vote at the last election. And"}, {"start": "00:42:39", "end": "00:42:43", "text": "somehow in this ludicrous thing they"}, {"start": "00:42:41", "end": "00:42:45", "text": "call a democracy, which is not a"}, {"start": "00:42:43", "end": "00:42:48", "text": "democracy at all, they've got a vast"}, {"start": "00:42:45", "end": "00:42:50", "text": "majority of MPs in parliament and can do"}, {"start": "00:42:48", "end": "00:42:53", "text": "what they bloody like on a third of the"}, {"start": "00:42:50", "end": "00:42:56", "text": "vote. It's supposed to be a democracy."}, {"start": "00:42:53", "end": "00:42:58", "text": "So um it's not uh you know ruled by the"}, {"start": "00:42:56", "end": "00:43:00", "text": "um by the majority. That's a tyranny as"}, {"start": "00:42:58", "end": "00:43:03", "text": "well. We can do better than that. But"}, {"start": "00:43:00", "end": "00:43:06", "text": "it's it's it's ruled by by by the um by"}, {"start": "00:43:03", "end": "00:43:08", "text": "the cult. And and what they're doing is"}, {"start": "00:43:06", "end": "00:43:10", "text": "getting you to give their power away."}, {"start": "00:43:08", "end": "00:43:13", "text": "your power away to them. You you vote"}, {"start": "00:43:10", "end": "00:43:14", "text": "for someone, they uh get into power or"}, {"start": "00:43:13", "end": "00:43:16", "text": "you don't vote for them and the other"}, {"start": "00:43:14", "end": "00:43:18", "text": "party gets into power and then they do"}, {"start": "00:43:16", "end": "00:43:21", "text": "what they bloody like till the next"}, {"start": "00:43:18", "end": "00:43:24", "text": "election when the same farce um happens"}, {"start": "00:43:21", "end": "00:43:27", "text": "again. If we"}, {"start": "00:43:24", "end": "00:43:30", "text": "put the fault lines down"}, {"start": "00:43:27", "end": "00:43:31", "text": "of divide and rule by the respect of"}, {"start": "00:43:30", "end": "00:43:33", "text": "everyone believes what they want to"}, {"start": "00:43:31", "end": "00:43:37", "text": "believe so long as it only pose it on"}, {"start": "00:43:33", "end": "00:43:39", "text": "anyone else. And then we look up and see"}, {"start": "00:43:37", "end": "00:43:44", "text": "the common"}, {"start": "00:43:39", "end": "00:43:47", "text": "control threat to all of us. You know,"}, {"start": "00:43:44", "end": "00:43:48", "text": "they're not seeking to in enslave"}, {"start": "00:43:47", "end": "00:43:52", "text": "Christians"}, {"start": "00:43:48", "end": "00:43:54", "text": "or seeking to enslave Muslims or Hindus"}, {"start": "00:43:52", "end": "00:43:58", "text": "or the left or the right. They're they"}, {"start": "00:43:54", "end": "00:44:03", "text": "want to inflate all of us. So put the"}, {"start": "00:43:58", "end": "00:44:06", "text": "fault lines down and let's focus upon"}, {"start": "00:44:03", "end": "00:44:08", "text": "the threat to all of us. And that threat"}, {"start": "00:44:06", "end": "00:44:13", "text": "can be diminished overnight, finished"}, {"start": "00:44:08", "end": "00:44:17", "text": "overnight by simply ceasing to acquies"}, {"start": "00:44:13", "end": "00:44:17", "text": "with our own enslavement."}, {"start": "00:44:20", "end": "00:44:24", "text": "If you enjoyed today's video on"}, {"start": "00:44:22", "end": "00:44:27", "text": "Anonymous Official, leave a like and"}, {"start": "00:44:24", "end": "00:44:28", "text": "subscribe if you haven't done so"}, {"start": "00:44:27", "end": "00:44:31", "text": "already."}, {"start": "00:44:28", "end": "00:44:34", "text": "Thanks for watching and sticking with"}, {"start": "00:44:31", "end": "00:44:34", "text": "us."}]

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And now um"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "we've got another virus"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "that's suddenly come out of nowhere and"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "is everywhere in the media."}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "And there's another thing brewing, which"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "I'll come to in a second, which is the"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "whole alien revelation thing that seems"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "to be"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "coming out pretty soon, so they claim."}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "So,"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "here's the virus."}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "Anyone remember CO? Whatever happened to"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "CO, by the way?"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "Did it go on holiday?"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "Where is it? Oh, we got a new one now."}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "Oh, they'll never buy the co. We better"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "give them a new one."}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "Hunt for missing British hunter virus"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "cruise passenger. Stewart on flight that"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "infected passenger tried to board falls"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "ill amid race to contain spread."}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "And when I'm reading these stories about"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "this hanta virus, well, just put"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "Corona virus in there instead. And it's"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "the same script."}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "A manhunt is underway to locate a"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "missing British passenger who fled a"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "disease struck cruise ship as fears"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "mount that hundreds of people may have"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "come into contact with infectious"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "carriers of the deadly ratorn illness"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "straight out of the COVID script in"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "2020. This is"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "health authorities say seven British"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "nationals disembark the MV Hondas"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "on um April the 24th while two have"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "returned to the UK and are selfisolating"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "at home. Got to selfisolate."}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "Four remain in St. Helina in the South"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "Atlantic Ocean. However, the location of"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "a seventh individual remains unknown. It"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "comes as an air stewwardess is feared to"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "have caught hanta virus after traveling"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "on a flight that an infected Dutch woman"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "tried to board. Just go back and have a"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "look at the unfolding COVID story in"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "late 2019, early 2020 and you'll see the"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "same stuff."}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "Um, if the stewardes is confirmed to"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "have been infected, it will fuel fears"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "that the virus"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "will spread beyond passengers who were"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "on the cruise ship where the outbreak"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "began."}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "And with this story comes a classic"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "COVID repeat graphic"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "uh of oh my goodness, where have these"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "passengers gone off this ship? Could it"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "go all over the world? And um oh dear, I"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "mean it's like"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "breathtaking. Well, it worked last time."}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "We'll just tell them the same."}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "A guest still stuck on the ship has also"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "revealed that social distancing"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "has only been in place for 3 days. Whoa."}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "With staff organizing a big barbecue as"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "if nothing had happened despite the"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "deadly ratorn virus."}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "Insert COVID. You're there. Three people"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "have died after becoming infected with"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "the Hanser virus on the vessel."}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "Currently, well, you know, was it the"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "Hanza virus or was it something else?"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "Currently on its way to the Canary"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "Islands to evacuate passengers after"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "being stranded for days in Cape Verde."}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "The evacuation of the remaining 146"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "passengers has been delayed after the"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "president of the Canaries refused to let"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "the ship dock at the archipelago for"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "fear of contaminating the civilian"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "population. The story just repeats. Oh,"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "the World Health Organization is"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "involved. Ted Ross and Gates and the"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "Rockefellers."}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "The World Health Organization, who"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "good question,"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "is attempting to locate at least 69"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "people who may have come into contact"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "with a 69year-old Dutch woman who"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "boarded two flights before she died of"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "the virus in South Africa on April the"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "26th."}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "Again,"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "where's the confirmation? Oh, we we gave"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "her a PCR test. Yeah, like the one you"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "gave people with COVID to get all your"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "cases"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "when the creator of the PCR test said"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "you you cannot use this to tell people"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "uh if they're sick or not."}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "A Frenchman is believed to have had"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "contact with the former passenger on the"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "Airlink flight from St. Elena to"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "Johannesburg on April the 25th and is"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "being monitored by health authorities."}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "So this comes as the WHO as warned there"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "could be more Hanta virus cases around"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "the world"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "but assured that the outbreak is not"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "expected to be an epidemic. That's what"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "they said about COVID originally."}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "uh then they invented one."}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "It emerged that dozens of passengers"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "disembarked the cruise without contact"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "tracing"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "after the first person died. Now firstly"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "the HN virus is listed as a possible"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "side effect of the COVID fake vaccine."}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "And so many of these so-called side"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "effects or consequences of the COVID"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "fake vaccine are diagnosed in and of"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "themselves. Oh, they've got so and so,"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "you've got this, that, or the other."}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "when actually the source of of it is the"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "COVID fake vaccine, but"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "that's never said and never identified."}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "Oh, just forget about all that."}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "And secondly,"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "Madna"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "has been partnering with Korea"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "University on a ha virus vaccine of the"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "COVID type"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "which means it will contain"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "self-replicating nanotechnology"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "which is what they want into everybody."}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "So"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "clearly we have to be extremely"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "skeptical"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "about"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "um what they're telling us about this"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "virus. And if enough people um don't buy"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "it, then it might go away like some of"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "the others have that they've tried to um"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "to play on us. You remember the monkey"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "virus? Do you remember that one?"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "And people laughed and oh no they're not"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "buying this"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "going to just forget about it. Well"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "maybe that will happen with this maybe"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "it won't. We shall see."}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "But like I say they're throwing um so"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "many different shocks and events at us"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "so that it's like"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "uh what do you focus upon?"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "And uh here's another example of that"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "because this whole"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "alien disclosure"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "uh seems to be getting closer from what"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "you hear from various politicians in"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "America. And we're closing in now on the"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "launch of this"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "Steven Spielberg movie, Disclosure Day."}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "um which is all about"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "disclosure of an alien presence."}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "And uh like I said at the start of the"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "year, this this is going to be the year"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "of the alien because I can see how"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "they'll uh peg the alien revelations to"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "this Spielberg uh movie. And on that"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "very subject,"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "a preacher this week in America called"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "Perry Stone claims a group of US pastors"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "have been warned to quote, \"prepare"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "their people for the uh release of files"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "about nonhuman craft and"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "sits back in amazement,"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "quote, reptilian ian creatures."}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "Now, I've been exposing these themes uh"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "and uh an enormous amount of detail in"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "in my books for 30 years amid of course"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "massive uh ridicule and you would think"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "that I'd be saying see"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "but what I'm saying is"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "we need to be very very careful about"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "how this whole thing is spun"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "and what the emphasis and what the story"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "they tell us um turns out to be. Um for"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "instance, if it is about"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "um"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "linking in some way this"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "extraterrestrial presence to the fact"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "that oh no, religion is true. It's it's"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "it's this is all part of what the Bible"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "says."}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "Then we need to be very careful because"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "religion"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "was created"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "by the nonhuman force to divide and rule"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "and to um imprison the mind in rigid"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "unquestioning belief systems. And I've"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "also talked to um many military and"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "former military personnel over the"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "decades um who have directly interacted"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "with reptilian"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "entities and other nonhuman entities"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "like the grays for instance in what are"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "called the dums the deep underground"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "military bases which are all around the"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "world but there's loads and loads of"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "them in America."}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "And so, not only has the military, in"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "other words, cult in a circle um of"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "government known about these agency,"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "these um entities rather since way back."}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "They've been working with them and doing"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "their bidding."}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "So if they come out and say it's a"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "mystery, don't know what's happening"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "then that spin in terms of the inner"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "circle would be pure because"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "um we will have to see how this is um"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "spun. But we need to be in the knowledge"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "that authority has been lying to people"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "for at least millennia."}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "And why would they suddenly tell the"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "unspun truth? Suddenly they won't. So we"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "just need to be very careful on this. If"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "they want to us to know anything, it's"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "because it suits them for us to know it."}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "Uh and their agenda for human"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "manipulation and control. So we should"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "see whatever they come out with in that"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "context. The earth is under the"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "surveillance of a higher"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "extraterrestrial"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "intelligence."}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "Now, as I've been saying all these"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "decades,"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "nonhuman intelligence does not just have"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "the Earth under surveillance."}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "It created this entire simulated reality"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "that we're told to believe is real. And"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "this intelligence is not"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "extraterrestrial in the sense of"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "physical entities from other physical"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "planets so much as interdimensional"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "in that it can move in and out of our"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "frequency. uh reality is what this"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "reality is a band of frequency which is"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "not physical but holographic illusory um"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "physical um what I've been writing for"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "decades is now becoming more accepted"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "after all the the laughter like I say"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "but it's so important that we we just"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "realize that they won't be telling us"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "the truth only the part that suits them."}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "Anyway, this is what this um former"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "Trump official has been saying."}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:45", "text": ">> Question, Will, first and foremost,"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "they're real. We're being visited by"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "some type of higher order intelligence"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "that we don't understand or we don't"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "even know their intentions and it's"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "happening often frequently and in our"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "airspace, water space. Uh so that should"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "be a cause of concern for our government"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "and and we know the government knows and"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "is not acknowledging that full new"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "nature of reality and that's probably my"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "biggest point here is that us being not"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "alone in the universe is probably the"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "story of the century or the millennia"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "and really like Galileo when you hold"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "changed the entire thought of of the"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "western world. We're at the same"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "inflection point now in our"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "understanding of the universe. It's a"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "new nature of reality. And at least for"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "America, the American people have a"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "right to know that. And the government"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "does know that and they're not"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "disclosing it. If you break it down,"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "um, we have this idea that in the in the"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "moment"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "we're experiencing the present"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "and everything other than that, like the"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "past that's gone"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "uh, and a memory"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "and the future, well, that's a a"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "projection. We worry about the future."}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "we, you know, regret the past or we"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "enjoy the past and look forward to the"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "future, whatever."}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "But where are we when we"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "experience what we now perceive as the"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "past? When we're in the now,"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "we were in that, if you like, present"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "moment."}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "Where will we be"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "when"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "the future as we perceive it becomes"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "the experience"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "in the now will be in the now."}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "So the only uh point that exists is"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "actually this infinite now."}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "And so well why does the body age then?"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "Well, it's my view um as I've um talked"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "about over the years that this uh human"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "body is a like a biological computer and"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "it's encoded. It's encoded with uh the"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "um ability to react to"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "uh situations that it faces,"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "environmental changes that it faces and"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "all these things. I I say very strongly"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "that it's um encoded with psychological"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "um response programs as well which we"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "can override with consciousness. But if"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "we don't override them then the the the"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "body's reaction system is is running"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "everything when we think it's us."}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "And I also suggest that"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "the body"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "is encoded with a cycle,"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "a cycle of"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "what we perceive as aging from womb to"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "tomb, if you like. And I think I'm sure"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "that consciousness can also override"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "that aging program too. at least slow it"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "down."}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "And"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "it's kind of been a week of"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "of confirmation in so many ways,"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "certainly you know what I've seen of the"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "fact that"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "this reality"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "is nothing"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "nothing"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "like we think it is and how we"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "experience it."}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "So the time thing is fundamental"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "but there's also you know and it's"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "becoming more prevalent now this whole"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "so-called extraterrestrial"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "um element to uh human life. Now uh of"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "course I've been saying now for decade"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "after decade that ultimately human"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "society is being manipulated from"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "another dimension of reality."}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "And it's um it's not so much that"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "solid physical beings are coming from"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "other planets as we perceive them"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "anyway. it's that they're coming in and"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "out of this reality from another"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "reality. 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Um"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "what I said um at the turn of this year"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "is that this would be the year of the"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "quote alien"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "um if you like disclosure"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "and the reason I said that is because of"}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "the Steven Spielberg film Disclosure Day"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "that's coming out um in June. I think"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "it's uh released in America on is it"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "June the 12th, something like that. And"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "uh you know when you when you look at"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "the the Spielberg kind of history and"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "you you've got kind of ET and Close"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "Encounters of the Third Kind and all"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "that stuff. Uh I thought"}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "this is no accident. This is no"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:47", "text": "coincidence."}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "This is going to be the peg"}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "to hang um forms of disclosure. It won't"}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "be the truth. Forms of disclosure um uh"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:21:02", "text": "on in terms of releasing it to the"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "public. And it took only weeks before"}, {"start": "00:21:02", "end": "00:21:09", "text": "Trump or that which controls Trump"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "announcing that uh he's going to release"}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "uh EUO files and reveal what's been um"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "hidden."}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "And so, um, I saw this clip this week"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "from, uh, a representative,"}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "uh, on Capitol Hill called Anna Paulina"}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:31", "text": "Luna, who's talked quite a bit over"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "recent months about the whole"}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "extraterrestrial theme. And what she's"}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:41", "text": "saying"}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:45", "text": "here is that she's seen evidence that"}, {"start": "00:21:41", "end": "00:21:49", "text": "what are perceived as aliens are"}, {"start": "00:21:45", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "actually, wait for it, interdimensional"}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "beings,"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "uh, which I absolutely"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:57", "text": "say that they are. So, um, this is what"}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "she said. I"}, {"start": "00:21:57", "end": "00:22:01", "text": ">> think you've said in the past that"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "you've seen yourself evidence of"}, {"start": "00:22:01", "end": "00:22:05", "text": "interdimensional beings. What's that?"}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:07", "text": "Aliens or?"}, {"start": "00:22:05", "end": "00:22:09", "text": ">> So, I've The inter interdimensional"}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "beings is what our witnesses will call"}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:14", "text": "these things. Um, I have seen evidence"}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "in a skiff that leads me to believe"}, {"start": "00:22:14", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "there are things we cannot explain and I"}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "have observed things um that are of"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "nonhuman origin and creation. That's my"}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "opinion. Um, again, but there has been a"}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "declassification order from the"}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "president and you will see as soon as"}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:31", "text": "that stuff comes up."}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:33", "text": ">> Right. So, do you think that the"}, {"start": "00:22:31", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "American public's going to be super"}, {"start": "00:22:33", "end": "00:22:37", "text": "surprised when this comes out, or is it"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "going to be a bit of a nothing burger?"}, {"start": "00:22:37", "end": "00:22:40", "text": ">> Well, I don't think it'll be a nothing"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "burger, but you know, we're not going to"}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:44", "text": "tell the American people what to make of"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:46", "text": "it, but I think, you know, when again,"}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "you saw my last hearing that I did with"}, {"start": "00:22:46", "end": "00:22:50", "text": "the task force where there was some"}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "footage that was entered into the"}, {"start": "00:22:50", "end": "00:22:54", "text": "archive and it's pretty shocking for"}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:56", "text": "people. I don't know much tech that can"}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:23:00", "text": "deflect a hellfire missile. I don't know"}, {"start": "00:22:56", "end": "00:23:01", "text": "about you, but um you know, I think"}, {"start": "00:23:00", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "footage that you'll see."}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:07", "text": ">> So, what do you you know, if you had to"}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:09", "text": "just make uh a decision now about"}, {"start": "00:23:07", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "whether there really were, I guess,"}, {"start": "00:23:09", "end": "00:23:15", "text": "aliens moving among us with their"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "strange machines that have all sorts of"}, {"start": "00:23:15", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "powers. Do you think that's plausible?"}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:22", "text": ">> I don't call them aliens and I don't"}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:23", "text": "know what these things are that they're"}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:25", "text": "using, right? Um, but I think that"}, {"start": "00:23:23", "end": "00:23:28", "text": "there's stuff that we have witnessed as"}, {"start": "00:23:25", "end": "00:23:30", "text": "members of Congress, um, been briefed on"}, {"start": "00:23:28", "end": "00:23:32", "text": "that we cannot explain. And I will leave"}, {"start": "00:23:30", "end": "00:23:34", "text": "it at that because that's going to be"}, {"start": "00:23:32", "end": "00:23:35", "text": "coming out soon. And I think that the"}, {"start": "00:23:34", "end": "00:23:38", "text": "American people will have many of their"}, {"start": "00:23:35", "end": "00:23:40", "text": "questions answered. If you go on"}, {"start": "00:23:38", "end": "00:23:42", "text": "authority"}, {"start": "00:23:40", "end": "00:23:45", "text": "in"}, {"start": "00:23:42", "end": "00:23:49", "text": "its uh history,"}, {"start": "00:23:45", "end": "00:23:51", "text": "then you'll realize that"}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:55", "text": "probably they won't be revealing the"}, {"start": "00:23:51", "end": "00:23:59", "text": "truth. They'll be revealing what suits"}, {"start": "00:23:55", "end": "00:24:02", "text": "this global cult that is representative"}, {"start": "00:23:59", "end": "00:24:08", "text": "of this other dimensional force."}, {"start": "00:24:02", "end": "00:24:11", "text": "what um suits them to um reveal for"}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:15", "text": "ulterior motives. Anyway, we'll we'll"}, {"start": "00:24:11", "end": "00:24:20", "text": "see um what that um what that is"}, {"start": "00:24:15", "end": "00:24:23", "text": "eventually, apparently relatively soon."}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:25", "text": "And uh of course there's this theme"}, {"start": "00:24:23", "end": "00:24:30", "text": "going on also"}, {"start": "00:24:25", "end": "00:24:34", "text": "with these missing and uh dying"}, {"start": "00:24:30", "end": "00:24:37", "text": "scientists that have been connected or"}, {"start": "00:24:34", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "at least many of them connected into the"}, {"start": "00:24:37", "end": "00:24:43", "text": "kind of technology that the uh the alien"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:45", "text": "technology is supposed to be about like"}, {"start": "00:24:43", "end": "00:24:50", "text": "you know anti-gravity technology and all"}, {"start": "00:24:45", "end": "00:24:52", "text": "that. And uh there's definitely a whole"}, {"start": "00:24:50", "end": "00:24:55", "text": "wave"}, {"start": "00:24:52", "end": "00:24:58", "text": "coming towards us um relating to this"}, {"start": "00:24:55", "end": "00:25:01", "text": "subject. And then this morning as I was"}, {"start": "00:24:58", "end": "00:25:08", "text": "just putting the dot connector together,"}, {"start": "00:25:01", "end": "00:25:10", "text": "I came across uh uh this um video. And"}, {"start": "00:25:08", "end": "00:25:12", "text": "what I've become well I I can only say"}, {"start": "00:25:10", "end": "00:25:17", "text": "infamous for"}, {"start": "00:25:12", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "over the last 30 years is saying that uh"}, {"start": "00:25:17", "end": "00:25:23", "text": "a prime expression"}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:25", "text": "of this interdimensional"}, {"start": "00:25:23", "end": "00:25:28", "text": "um"}, {"start": "00:25:25", "end": "00:25:30", "text": "manipulative force, shall we say, uh"}, {"start": "00:25:28", "end": "00:25:32", "text": "takes a reptilian form."}, {"start": "00:25:30", "end": "00:25:36", "text": "And that"}, {"start": "00:25:32", "end": "00:25:39", "text": "because of this ability to shift"}, {"start": "00:25:36", "end": "00:25:41", "text": "frequency, they can shapeshift between"}, {"start": "00:25:39", "end": "00:25:44", "text": "different forms. Like they can appear"}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:46", "text": "human and then shift into a reptilian"}, {"start": "00:25:44", "end": "00:25:52", "text": "form. And of course, this has got me so"}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:53", "text": "much ridicule and um well abuse,"}, {"start": "00:25:52", "end": "00:25:57", "text": "laughter"}, {"start": "00:25:53", "end": "00:25:59", "text": "over the years. Um, but if if what you"}, {"start": "00:25:57", "end": "00:26:02", "text": "say has validity, then it will"}, {"start": "00:25:59", "end": "00:26:05", "text": "eventually be shown to be so. And this"}, {"start": "00:26:02", "end": "00:26:10", "text": "is a clip of a lady called Elizabeth"}, {"start": "00:26:05", "end": "00:26:14", "text": "April. Now, she's a"}, {"start": "00:26:10", "end": "00:26:17", "text": "seems to have uh many talents. She's a"}, {"start": "00:26:14", "end": "00:26:19", "text": "Canadian psychic and also a remote"}, {"start": "00:26:17", "end": "00:26:22", "text": "viewer"}, {"start": "00:26:19", "end": "00:26:25", "text": "where you project your consciousness"}, {"start": "00:26:22", "end": "00:26:28", "text": "into different locations"}, {"start": "00:26:25", "end": "00:26:31", "text": "and you're able"}, {"start": "00:26:28", "end": "00:26:35", "text": "the the ones that can really do it. Uh"}, {"start": "00:26:31", "end": "00:26:40", "text": "to to see things that um are hidden from"}, {"start": "00:26:35", "end": "00:26:42", "text": "the public. Now, um she has said in this"}, {"start": "00:26:40", "end": "00:26:44", "text": "interview"}, {"start": "00:26:42", "end": "00:26:47", "text": "that she's"}, {"start": "00:26:44", "end": "00:26:49", "text": "remote viewed um underground"}, {"start": "00:26:47", "end": "00:26:52", "text": "bases"}, {"start": "00:26:49", "end": "00:26:55", "text": "and that what she's seen in those bases,"}, {"start": "00:26:52", "end": "00:26:58", "text": "as I've been writing about in the books"}, {"start": "00:26:55", "end": "00:27:01", "text": "for decades, she's seen reptilian"}, {"start": "00:26:58", "end": "00:27:04", "text": "entities in these uh what are called"}, {"start": "00:27:01", "end": "00:27:09", "text": "dums, deep underground military bases."}, {"start": "00:27:04", "end": "00:27:12", "text": "And also she says she's seen the cloning"}, {"start": "00:27:09", "end": "00:27:16", "text": "of politicians and celebrities,"}, {"start": "00:27:12", "end": "00:27:18", "text": "celebrities as she calls them, that then"}, {"start": "00:27:16", "end": "00:27:21", "text": "I guess are put out into the public"}, {"start": "00:27:18", "end": "00:27:24", "text": "arena and you think it's"}, {"start": "00:27:21", "end": "00:27:27", "text": "the original when it isn't. That's the"}, {"start": "00:27:24", "end": "00:27:31", "text": "that's the theme here. Um,"}, {"start": "00:27:27", "end": "00:27:33", "text": "but what she says, of course, is I've"}, {"start": "00:27:31", "end": "00:27:36", "text": "been saying since the 1990s,"}, {"start": "00:27:33", "end": "00:27:40", "text": "but there's one thing she says that I"}, {"start": "00:27:36", "end": "00:27:43", "text": "would uh I would question, and I'll talk"}, {"start": "00:27:40", "end": "00:27:45", "text": "about that when we've seen what uh what"}, {"start": "00:27:43", "end": "00:27:47", "text": "she has to say about the uh the"}, {"start": "00:27:45", "end": "00:27:50", "text": "reptilians. One of the things that I"}, {"start": "00:27:47", "end": "00:27:53", "text": "ended up seeing uh a lot of actually in"}, {"start": "00:27:50", "end": "00:27:56", "text": "a surprising way were these at the time"}, {"start": "00:27:53", "end": "00:27:58", "text": "I called them these giant dinosaur"}, {"start": "00:27:56", "end": "00:28:01", "text": "beings. Um now obviously they're"}, {"start": "00:27:58", "end": "00:28:04", "text": "referenced as sort of reptilians. And"}, {"start": "00:28:01", "end": "00:28:06", "text": "this is sort of a that and cloning was"}, {"start": "00:28:04", "end": "00:28:09", "text": "something that I wanted to kind of sit"}, {"start": "00:28:06", "end": "00:28:11", "text": "on probably for the rest of my life."}, {"start": "00:28:09", "end": "00:28:14", "text": "Like I was truly planning on taking that"}, {"start": "00:28:11", "end": "00:28:18", "text": "information to my grave. uh a because it"}, {"start": "00:28:14", "end": "00:28:22", "text": "sounds absolutely crazy um and b because"}, {"start": "00:28:18", "end": "00:28:24", "text": "I really didn't feel safe in exposing uh"}, {"start": "00:28:22", "end": "00:28:26", "text": "the truth of of what's really happening"}, {"start": "00:28:24", "end": "00:28:29", "text": "um and the fact that this world is not"}, {"start": "00:28:26", "end": "00:28:31", "text": "being run by you know human beings it's"}, {"start": "00:28:29", "end": "00:28:32", "text": "being run by by something else"}, {"start": "00:28:31", "end": "00:28:35", "text": "altogether"}, {"start": "00:28:32", "end": "00:28:38", "text": ">> and we are so another word for them is"}, {"start": "00:28:35", "end": "00:28:40", "text": "also the draos correct I mean they are"}, {"start": "00:28:38", "end": "00:28:42", "text": "basically what controls humanity are we"}, {"start": "00:28:40", "end": "00:28:44", "text": "breaking this the bondage"}, {"start": "00:28:42", "end": "00:28:47", "text": "the the you know are we breaking the"}, {"start": "00:28:44", "end": "00:28:50", "text": "slavery with them? Are we I know we're"}, {"start": "00:28:47", "end": "00:28:51", "text": "used as uh I guess a lot of people in"}, {"start": "00:28:50", "end": "00:28:53", "text": "the new age community as well has said"}, {"start": "00:28:51", "end": "00:28:57", "text": "we're used as like energy or food for"}, {"start": "00:28:53", "end": "00:28:59", "text": "them. Uh basically they they basically"}, {"start": "00:28:57", "end": "00:29:02", "text": "farm humans. Correct."}, {"start": "00:28:59", "end": "00:29:04", "text": ">> Yeah. So, from what I've seen, um, they"}, {"start": "00:29:02", "end": "00:29:07", "text": "can consume our energy, which is a lot"}, {"start": "00:29:04", "end": "00:29:09", "text": "of the, uh, public rituals, like I know"}, {"start": "00:29:07", "end": "00:29:11", "text": "people may not agree with this, but like"}, {"start": "00:29:09", "end": "00:29:14", "text": "things like the Super Bowl or like"}, {"start": "00:29:11", "end": "00:29:16", "text": "really big concerts, you know, are all"}, {"start": "00:29:14", "end": "00:29:20", "text": "sort of energy harvesting and then also"}, {"start": "00:29:16", "end": "00:29:22", "text": "public forms of ritual which allow us to"}, {"start": "00:29:20", "end": "00:29:26", "text": "consent to these crimes against humanity"}, {"start": "00:29:22", "end": "00:29:28", "text": "by not contesting it. Right? So, it's"}, {"start": "00:29:26", "end": "00:29:30", "text": "just like it's it's a very deep level of"}, {"start": "00:29:28", "end": "00:29:32", "text": "karmic manipulation, free will"}, {"start": "00:29:30", "end": "00:29:35", "text": "manipulation. Um, and and that's why"}, {"start": "00:29:32", "end": "00:29:37", "text": "they have to be so public about their"}, {"start": "00:29:35", "end": "00:29:41", "text": "involvement and yet so secretive as"}, {"start": "00:29:37", "end": "00:29:42", "text": "well. Um, so that we don't resist. And"}, {"start": "00:29:41", "end": "00:29:45", "text": "uh, and then there's also the the"}, {"start": "00:29:42", "end": "00:29:47", "text": "physical consumption as well. Um, both"}, {"start": "00:29:45", "end": "00:29:50", "text": "consuming human bodies and then also"}, {"start": "00:29:47", "end": "00:29:52", "text": "drinking our blood. and specifically"}, {"start": "00:29:50", "end": "00:29:54", "text": "they have certain rituals um that bring"}, {"start": "00:29:52", "end": "00:29:57", "text": "out the most amount of these sort of"}, {"start": "00:29:54", "end": "00:29:59", "text": "stress hormones which is what they feed"}, {"start": "00:29:57", "end": "00:30:02", "text": "off the most. So there's usually a lot"}, {"start": "00:29:59", "end": "00:30:03", "text": "of torture involved in these rituals"}, {"start": "00:30:02", "end": "00:30:08", "text": "before they gather the blood and consume"}, {"start": "00:30:03", "end": "00:30:14", "text": "it. Now, what Elizabeth says there about"}, {"start": "00:30:08", "end": "00:30:16", "text": "mass events like concerts and and uh"}, {"start": "00:30:14", "end": "00:30:19", "text": "well, I guess football matches"}, {"start": "00:30:16", "end": "00:30:23", "text": "uh where massive numbers of people come"}, {"start": "00:30:19", "end": "00:30:25", "text": "together that they are kind of a an"}, {"start": "00:30:23", "end": "00:30:29", "text": "energyh harvesting"}, {"start": "00:30:25", "end": "00:30:32", "text": "uh ritual for these reptilians and these"}, {"start": "00:30:29", "end": "00:30:34", "text": "other um other dimensional entities. I I"}, {"start": "00:30:32", "end": "00:30:36", "text": "think that's spot on. And I've been"}, {"start": "00:30:34", "end": "00:30:41", "text": "saying that myself because you've only"}, {"start": "00:30:36", "end": "00:30:44", "text": "got to go into a um a big uh football"}, {"start": "00:30:41", "end": "00:30:50", "text": "crowd for instance and you you see or"}, {"start": "00:30:44", "end": "00:30:53", "text": "you can feel the excitement um of people"}, {"start": "00:30:50", "end": "00:30:55", "text": "to the point where the hairs on your"}, {"start": "00:30:53", "end": "00:30:57", "text": "back of your neck can stand up or the"}, {"start": "00:30:55", "end": "00:31:02", "text": "hairs on your arm or whatever. And it's"}, {"start": "00:30:57", "end": "00:31:04", "text": "like that is an electromagnetic field"}, {"start": "00:31:02", "end": "00:31:09", "text": "that is generated from the emotional"}, {"start": "00:31:04", "end": "00:31:12", "text": "excitement of the crowd. And"}, {"start": "00:31:09", "end": "00:31:14", "text": "that's what they are uh absorbing as"}, {"start": "00:31:12", "end": "00:31:19", "text": "their sustenance or what's become known"}, {"start": "00:31:14", "end": "00:31:24", "text": "as as luch this uh human um human"}, {"start": "00:31:19", "end": "00:31:29", "text": "energy. But where I differ on that clip"}, {"start": "00:31:24", "end": "00:31:34", "text": "is where it said that they have to tell"}, {"start": "00:31:29", "end": "00:31:36", "text": "us and what was it again that um consent"}, {"start": "00:31:34", "end": "00:31:40", "text": "is necessary."}, {"start": "00:31:36", "end": "00:31:42", "text": "Uh kind of what you pick up over the"}, {"start": "00:31:40", "end": "00:31:44", "text": "years is they have to tell us what"}, {"start": "00:31:42", "end": "00:31:47", "text": "they're going to do as part of some"}, {"start": "00:31:44", "end": "00:31:49", "text": "universal law that avoids karma or"}, {"start": "00:31:47", "end": "00:31:51", "text": "something. I think that's a load of all"}, {"start": "00:31:49", "end": "00:31:54", "text": "crap. Personally um I don't think they"}, {"start": "00:31:51", "end": "00:31:58", "text": "have to tell us and and by the way uh"}, {"start": "00:31:54", "end": "00:32:03", "text": "are they telling us you know um if they"}, {"start": "00:31:58", "end": "00:32:04", "text": "are harvesting energy and manipulating"}, {"start": "00:32:03", "end": "00:32:10", "text": "society"}, {"start": "00:32:04", "end": "00:32:13", "text": "on the basis of you not um complaining"}, {"start": "00:32:10", "end": "00:32:16", "text": "or or resisting"}, {"start": "00:32:13", "end": "00:32:18", "text": "and therefore you're giving consent by"}, {"start": "00:32:16", "end": "00:32:22", "text": "default."}, {"start": "00:32:18", "end": "00:32:25", "text": "Well, hold on a bloody moment. Um, how"}, {"start": "00:32:22", "end": "00:32:28", "text": "can you give consent for anything if"}, {"start": "00:32:25", "end": "00:32:32", "text": "you're not aware what there's anything"}, {"start": "00:32:28", "end": "00:32:34", "text": "to give consent to cuz it's kept from"}, {"start": "00:32:32", "end": "00:32:36", "text": "you."}, {"start": "00:32:34", "end": "00:32:39", "text": "So, um I don't think that for a moment"}, {"start": "00:32:36", "end": "00:32:43", "text": "they have to tell us. I think it's to do"}, {"start": "00:32:39", "end": "00:32:46", "text": "with um the fact that it's it's kind of"}, {"start": "00:32:43", "end": "00:32:48", "text": "a form of preemptive programming."}, {"start": "00:32:46", "end": "00:32:50", "text": "They're putting into the conscious and"}, {"start": "00:32:48", "end": "00:32:53", "text": "subconscious mind, particularly the"}, {"start": "00:32:50", "end": "00:32:58", "text": "subconscious mind, their program what"}, {"start": "00:32:53", "end": "00:33:02", "text": "they're planning to do and uh therefore"}, {"start": "00:32:58", "end": "00:33:06", "text": "uh at some level people become familiar"}, {"start": "00:33:02", "end": "00:33:08", "text": "with it instead of like oh no no we're"}, {"start": "00:33:06", "end": "00:33:10", "text": "not having that. What are you talking"}, {"start": "00:33:08", "end": "00:33:14", "text": "about? We're not doing that. No, no."}, {"start": "00:33:10", "end": "00:33:16", "text": "It's it it's a familiar familiarity"}, {"start": "00:33:14", "end": "00:33:19", "text": "that is um infused into the"}, {"start": "00:33:16", "end": "00:33:26", "text": "subconscious. So when it kind of starts"}, {"start": "00:33:19", "end": "00:33:28", "text": "to happen in reality, you are um you are"}, {"start": "00:33:26", "end": "00:33:30", "text": "kind of familiar with it and you you're"}, {"start": "00:33:28", "end": "00:33:34", "text": "you're less resistant to it um as a"}, {"start": "00:33:30", "end": "00:33:39", "text": "result. And the other thing, and this is"}, {"start": "00:33:34", "end": "00:33:43", "text": "a really big big area that's not focused"}, {"start": "00:33:39", "end": "00:33:48", "text": "upon even nearly enough, and that's the"}, {"start": "00:33:43", "end": "00:33:51", "text": "fact that our perceptions,"}, {"start": "00:33:48", "end": "00:33:53", "text": "which manifest themselves as a frequency"}, {"start": "00:33:51", "end": "00:33:57", "text": "field,"}, {"start": "00:33:53", "end": "00:34:01", "text": "are interacting with the, if you like,"}, {"start": "00:33:57", "end": "00:34:04", "text": "the universal field of possibility. and"}, {"start": "00:34:01", "end": "00:34:07", "text": "um probability"}, {"start": "00:34:04", "end": "00:34:11", "text": "and we are manifesting"}, {"start": "00:34:07", "end": "00:34:14", "text": "an experience that relates to our"}, {"start": "00:34:11", "end": "00:34:17", "text": "perceptions."}, {"start": "00:34:14", "end": "00:34:18", "text": "simple thing. 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And so it benefits"}, {"start": "00:34:51", "end": "00:34:58", "text": "um the manipulation"}, {"start": "00:34:54", "end": "00:35:03", "text": "if you can get mass numbers of people in"}, {"start": "00:34:58", "end": "00:35:03", "text": "a certain perceptual mode"}, {"start": "00:35:04", "end": "00:35:10", "text": "because they will interact"}, {"start": "00:35:08", "end": "00:35:15", "text": "with the field of possibility and"}, {"start": "00:35:10", "end": "00:35:16", "text": "probability and they will manifest"}, {"start": "00:35:15", "end": "00:35:19", "text": "a"}, {"start": "00:35:16", "end": "00:35:23", "text": "experience. erienced expression"}, {"start": "00:35:19", "end": "00:35:26", "text": "of what you have perceptually"}, {"start": "00:35:23", "end": "00:35:31", "text": "manipulated them to believe."}, {"start": "00:35:26", "end": "00:35:35", "text": "In other words, they manipulate us to"}, {"start": "00:35:31", "end": "00:35:41", "text": "create our own prison while thinking"}, {"start": "00:35:35", "end": "00:35:47", "text": "what's happening to us is all random."}, {"start": "00:35:41", "end": "00:35:51", "text": "That's the reason they're telling us or"}, {"start": "00:35:47", "end": "00:35:53", "text": "leading us into"}, {"start": "00:35:51", "end": "00:35:55", "text": "belief systems that certain things are"}, {"start": "00:35:53", "end": "00:35:58", "text": "inevitable."}, {"start": "00:35:55", "end": "00:36:00", "text": "When"}, {"start": "00:35:58", "end": "00:36:02", "text": "if we think they're inevitable,"}, {"start": "00:36:00", "end": "00:36:05", "text": "we collectively"}, {"start": "00:36:02", "end": "00:36:08", "text": "create them through this"}, {"start": "00:36:05", "end": "00:36:08", "text": "interaction."}, {"start": "00:36:10", "end": "00:36:15", "text": "If you enjoyed today's video on"}, {"start": "00:36:12", "end": "00:36:17", "text": "Anonymous Official, leave a like and"}, {"start": "00:36:15", "end": "00:36:19", "text": "subscribe if you haven't done so"}, {"start": "00:36:17", "end": "00:36:21", "text": "already."}, {"start": "00:36:19", "end": "00:36:24", "text": "Thanks for watching and sticking with"}, {"start": "00:36:21", "end": "00:36:24", "text": "us."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "I'm not the highest ranking CIA officer"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "to go public. There have been CIA"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "directors going public all the time. I"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "think I have the distinction of being"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "one of the highest case officers to go"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "public and endeavor to tell the truth"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "about what the CI has been up to. It's a"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "vast subject, a dense subject. I can't"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "possibly do justice to it in the time"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "allowed. This means I'm going to have to"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "insult your intelligence by skimming"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "across the top of subjects that you"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "could get a PhD dissertation written in"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "and still not covered thoroughly. This"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "massive documentation, of course, is is"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "the salvation of the intellectually uh"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "tuned. I urge you to read for"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "yourselves. Do not take anything I'm"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "saying tonight as the gospel. I'm"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "telling you that our leaders lie to us."}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "They lie to us systematically. They lie"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "to us with a purpose that may not be"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "your purpose. And the only way you can"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "defend yourself uh against other people"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "programming you because we are"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "programmable. 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The link is in the"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "description."}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:35", "text": ">> Meanwhile, CI activities of course have"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "taken their own left their own permanent"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "mark on US society. The MK Ultra"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "program, I'll talk about it and perhaps"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "not come, you know, come down the hill"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "uh feet first. Book the agency by John"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "Rainlay, which is the memoirs of CI"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "founders Larry Houston and Ray Klein and"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "others says that there were 175"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "different projects in that one program."}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "We know of about five of them. These"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "were experimentations with swine fever,"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "with dingy fever, with deadly diseases,"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "with psychedelic drugs on American"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "population groupings without their"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "permission. In many cases, if you were"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "reading the newspapers in October of"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "1988, you noticed that there was a"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "settlement declared between the CIA and"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "the victims at McGill University in"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "Canada, where the CIA had been working"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "with a mad psychiatrist who was taking"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "the patients who came to him for help"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "and shooting them up with hallucinogenic"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "drugs to experiment with their minds"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "instead of healing them. And this was a"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "CIA program for which with your tax"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "dollars we eventually paid damages to"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "the to the victims. Read for yourselves."}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "Again, as I say, read The Agency by John"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "Rainley. Read Clouds of Secrecy by"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "Leonard Cole, a professor from Rutgers,"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "and you find that this program is still"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "going on today. Read In Search of the"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "Manurion Candidate by John Marx,"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "published by New York Times Press in"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "1979 based on 14,000 documents gotten"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "out of the CIA under the Freedom of"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "Information Act or go through the back"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "issues of covert action information"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "bulletin, which has a dozen solid"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "articles about this program. 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He"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "wrote, I toiled wholeheartedly in the"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "vineyards because it was fun, fun, fun."}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "Where else could a red-blooded American"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "boy lie, kill, cheat, steal, rape, and"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "pillage with the blessings of the all"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "highest? Then we have the MH chaos"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "program and the co-intel pro program CI"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "and FBI programs where they were"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "manipulating student and labor"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "organizations and civic organizations"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "disrupting them trying to redirect them."}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "We have the findings of the church"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "committee that they were getting"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "journalists up to about 200 journalists"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "including some of the biggest names in"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "the business and getting them to"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "cooperate with the CI to put its"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "propaganda into our media so that we"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "would be influenced with"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "misunderstandings of what was happening"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "in Southeast Asia, Korea or China or"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "Central America, other parts of the"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "world that our government wanted to"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "destabilize and attack and fight wars."}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "co-opting professors to work with the"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "CIA to to manipulate student groups and"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "build files on students, publishing"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "1,200 books in which they were paying"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "professors, scholars, journalists to"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "write books in their names. And these"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "books are still in our libraries today"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "because the church committee couldn't"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "force the CI to reveal the titles CIA"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "propaganda. So that if you're doing your"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "dissertation on the Vietnam War, for"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "example, probably one or two dozen of"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "the books that you'll have in your"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "bibliography, if not more, will in fact"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "VCI propaganda, and you can only guess"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "and try to discern which is which. And"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "this is not ancient history. FBI"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "Director William Sessions announced"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "about this time last year that he was"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "disciplining officers that he found had"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "been improperly targeting CESPUS and 160"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "other civic organizations. And this"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "summer, the congressional committee said"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "there were a total of 1,600 groups that"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "had been targeted and listed, as they"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "say, uh, improperly by the FBI. Uh,"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "again, the same type of programs as the"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "MHKS and COINTEL PRO programs. And"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "that's just FBI. The CIA was doing the"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "same thing during the same period of"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "time, but there's been no confession or"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "revelation of what they were doing. Nor"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "has there been a publication of the"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "lists of the names of the the groups"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "that were targeted. So if you had"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "trouble in one of your groups, uh you"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "can only guess if it was because of FBI"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "or CI disruption or just pure and simply"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "human foil. We began the conditioning to"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "war in this country, this permanent war"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "complex we maintain, pretending we're"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "good guys, at the age of two. This is"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "the age at which we put our children in"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "front of the oneeyed babysitter and turn"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "it on so we can go wash the dishes or"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "take a break. And they watch the same"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "show with different characters 10 or 15"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "times a day. And I'm talking about I"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "have a kid so I'm into these things. You"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "know, He-Man and Sheena and Scooby-Doo"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "even and the the Transformers and the"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "Decepticons and what each one of these"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "nice little people put upon by ugly evil"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "forces always saying, \"Please be nice.\""}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "The evil forces insist on attacking and"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "at the last minute the good guys rise up"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "and stomp them down. Cut commercial and"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "we move on, you know, to the next show."}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "until it's estimated when we graduate"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "from high school, we spent more time"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "watching violence on television than"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "we've spent in the classrooms itself."}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "And then you get into the movies we've"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "been feeding ourselves during this"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "military buildup during the 80s. Rambo,"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "Commando, Red Dawn, The Rocky Series,"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "Under Under Siege, Delta Force, America,"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "Missing Action, Top Gun, Heartbreak"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "Ridge, Death Before Dishonor, Platoon,"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "Hamburger Hill, Tour of Duty, China"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "Beach, and they go on and on. How many"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "people saw the movie Red Dawn? By the"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "way, this is fun. Don't be embarrassed."}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "It's a great movie. Now, this this"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "story, it's science fiction. The"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "producer of this movie went on"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "television around the nation saying it"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "was his purpose to create a movie that"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "would make people that would draw people"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "back to war, that would make them feel"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "war could be a good and exciting thing."}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "And this film was actually shown in"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "marine boot camps uh to motivate people"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "and to national guard groups that were"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "about to go down to train in Honduras"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "for the possible invasion of Nicaragua."}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "The science fiction is that they have a"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "force as you recall of Russians, Cubans,"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "and Nicaraguans who've invaded the"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "United States and they've gotten all the"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "way to the Rocky Mountains. Uh now you"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "ask yourself why the planning as they"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "did the movie. Why did they pick"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "Russians, Cubans, and Nicaraguans? I"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "mean, it would be a better movie if they"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "picked Russians, Canadians, and Cubans."}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "See, because Canada is an industrial"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "country, and there's a huge border, and"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "there could be the Russians coming"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "across at 100 places and pinning us"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "against Cuba. I mean, you could kind of"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "get your head. I mean, it's all science"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "fiction. You know, blow off our nuclear"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "weapons and our army and all of that."}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "This is the given. So, why did they pick"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "Nicaragua instead of, say, Canada? And"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "the answer is, of course, they were"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "targeting Nicaragua for a possible"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "invasion by US troops. So they had to"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "condition the people that Nicaragua"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "would be the next enemy, the next"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "target. Anyway, this force gets all the"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "way to the Rocky Mountains where they're"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "eventually stopped by the high school"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "football team."}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "Now, I submit to you that the 80s, you"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "see, is the decayed of the middle-aged"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "women. This is, you know, Dallas and"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "Dynasty and the Golden Girls and Murder"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "She Wrote. Linda Evans, you know, is in"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "better physical condition than I am. And"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "Joan Collins is older than I am, and"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "she's a sex symbol and the the nautilus"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "workouts and the jogging. I mean, an 80s"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "movie would have been the the Soviets,"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "Cubans, and Nicaraguans with middle-aged"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "school teachers running through the"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "mountains and shooting them down and"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "drinking deer's blood and all of that."}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "So, why did they pick the high school"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "football team? You see, the answer is"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "obvious. They're going to fight the next"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "war with the 18y olds and 19 year olds."}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "It's not going to be the middle-aged 50"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "year olds. We're too smart. We've seen"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "the cynicism of war. We wouldn't buy it."}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "It's at that age the high school"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "graduates where the young men are"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "suffering from their massive doses of"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "testosterone poisoning and their minds"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "have not yet had a chance to be filled"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "for all of them. Some are precautious"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "but many of them have not yet had a"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "chance to fill their minds with"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "experience to understand what the world"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "is all about to understand how they're"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "being used. So that's why they targeted"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "that film at the high school. And then"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "you look at the ads on television that"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "were pumping at us then and now. join"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "the army. Be all that you can be with"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "these tanks jumping ditches and"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "helicopters going 200 miles an hour. And"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "so, you know, then I say, \"Wait a"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "minute. What's going on here? What's"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "missing?\" You know, where are the young"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "men with their legs blown off at the"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "knees with their intestines wrapped"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "around their necks? And the answer is"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "that these things are not meant to"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "educate. See, that's where they're"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "reaching inside people's breasts and"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "pressing buttons and manipulating people"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "to join the army and be all that you can"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "be and be available to be sent down to"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "Central America to kill people and to"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "die for your country. And then there's"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "the most insidious ad I think I've seen"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "uh in all of the days that I've watched"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "television. This is the one of the"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "soldier coming home on on vacation in"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "uniform, handsome young man. He's met by"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "his brother. I think he's getting off a"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "train and he says, \"Dad never did"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "understand why I joined the army.\" And"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "then they're driving and he says, \"Do"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "you think you'll ever forgive me?\" And"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "the boy says, \"Well, you know, dad.\" And"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "then they get in the living room and the"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "young soldier says, \"Dad.\" And the"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "father turns and hugs him and all is"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "forgiven. And what's the point? They"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "must have spent hundreds of millions of"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "dollars on this ad. What's the point?"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "The point, you see, is that there are a"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "lot of fathers in this country that are"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "saying, \"Do not join the army.\" They've"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "seen the Vietnam War and the Korean War,"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "and they've seen the cynicism, and"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "they're telling their sons not to join"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "the army. And this ad is saying that"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "it's okay, according to the values of US"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "society, to defy your father and join"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "the army. Every major area of operation"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "in which the CI has worked has left"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "behind a major functioning drug cartel."}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "Again, this is a major subject we could"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "talk about all night. I'll just mention"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "it. We can go back to it in detail if"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "you like in the question and answer. The"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "French connection grew directly from the"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "OSS, the CIA's predecessors, getting"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "Lucky Luciano out of prison and funding"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "him to activate the mafia to work with"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "the US forces during the war and then"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "right after the war to break up the"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "strikes on the docks in Marseilles. The"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "Golden Triangle in Southeast Asia grew"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "directly out of our covert policies"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "there before it had been run by French"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "intelligence with the Corsican mafia. We"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "took over with our Air America and civil"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "air transport planes flying in arms to"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "our allies, flying back out with the"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "heroin. The first target being USGIS"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "during the Vietnam War. The second"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "target being the United States itself."}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "The Golden Crescent. Afghanistan, of"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "course, is the largest covert operation"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "the CI has run to date. We understand in"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "terms of the hundreds of millions of"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "dollars it's cost going on for over a"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "year. And sure enough, after about six"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "years, the golden crescent in that area"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "becomes the largest source of heroin in"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "the world today. See for yourselves if"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "you'd like to get your information from"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "video, see Guns, Drugs, and the CIA, the"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "frontline PBS show, or read for"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "yourselves. Read the great heroin coup"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "by Henrik Krueger. Read the Iran Contra"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "Connection by Peter Dale Scott. Read The"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "Politics of Heroin in Southeast Asia by"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "Al McCoy. Read The Cocaine Wars by Paul"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "Eddie. Read Out of Control by Leslie"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "Coburn. Read Mafia Kingfish by John"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "Davis. Read the Senator Must Die by Bob"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "Marorrow. I worked for George Bush"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "personally at the end of the Angolan"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "Operation when he was CIA director in"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "1976. Uh we had broken the law and we"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "had perjured ourselves to cover it up."}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "We being Henry Kissinger and Bill Colby,"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "mostly me being in a staff position"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "under them. Bush's policies were not to"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "find out the truth and punish the"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "perpetrators and clean up the CIA. It"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "was to cover for us. He went to the"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "congressional committees and said, \"I"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "wasn't here, but these nice people I'm"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "meeting.\" He's a very nice person, by"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "the way. He would walk down the hall"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "shaking our hands saying, \"Hello, I'm"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "George Bush, and I want you to know I"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "love being here working with all these"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "fine people in the CIA.\" And we were"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "saying, \"Huh?\" I mean, this is the CI"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "director is supposed to have kind of an"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "aura, you know, and but he was going to"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "the Congress saying, \"I can't believe"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "that these nice people out there would"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "do the things that you're alleging, but"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "I'll check.\" And then he had but and"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "then he had a young attorney sent down"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "to my office to go through my files to"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "purge them of documents that would prove"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "exactly what they were accusing us of."}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "And then he went back to them and said,"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "\"We've checked. There are no files in"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "the agency that that prove anything like"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "you're alleging. Therefore, you can drop"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "it.\" and they did. Second most"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "profitable industry in the world, of"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "course, is the production of arms. $3"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "billion a day bought and sold weapons."}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "The defense corporations making 20 to"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "24% profit. We just got through spending"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "a total of $2.2 trillion on the largest"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "arms buildup perhaps in the history of"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "the world, certainly of any peacetime"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "arms buildup. And our debt increasing by"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "just about exactly the same amount"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "during that period of time. The result"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "is that we've created a society that's"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "dominated by what President Eisenhower"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "called the military-industrial complex."}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "The US taxpayer is now carrying a"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "gigantic burden."}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "Onethird of our budget about is for the"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "military. 53 cents according to the"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "Washington Post of every tax dollar goes"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "to the military. Now, the result of"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "course of of this runaway arms race that"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "we've got going with this expenditure,"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "giant expenditures on the military is"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "that we can't afford it. We're having to"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "cut every conceivable social service. We"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "can't afford to care for the old people"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "or the poor people or the handicapped"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "people or the farmers or to help the"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "young people get through college. And"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "we're gutting social security to cover"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "the deficit. I repeat, you and I, if"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "you've got a job, we're taxed. the FICA"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "tax. It's 15%. Your employer pays 7 and"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "a2. If you're self-employed like me, you"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "pay all 15%. Uh, and this is your"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "retirement. You're supposed to get that"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "back when you're 65. And they're"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "spending that money like it was windfall"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "profits to cover the deficit that"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "they've run up on the production of"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "arms. The real deficits are running"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "about $300 billion. They're calling them"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "$152 billion. the difference they're"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "claiming against borrowing against the"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "social security retirement fund that"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "belongs to us and they're spending it on"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "their military today. What's happening"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "is that the United States has plunged"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "relative to the less the rest of the"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "world. 25% of the people in this country"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "are now functionally illiterate. We're"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "sixth in the world in terms of the"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "percentage of children in school. We're"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "10th in the world in quality of"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "education. We're seventh in the world in"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "terms of life expectancy. We're 20th in"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "the world in terms of infant mortality."}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "To sell these sacrifices to the American"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "people, the world has to be hostile and"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "dangerous. If the world were peaceful,"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "we would never put up with this kind of"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "expenditure on arm. We're all"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "disempowered. We're all so helpless. The"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "individual here in Washington or in"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "Maine, where I was a couple of nights"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "ago, or in South Texas or California,"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "uh, you know, what can I do? And it's a"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "tough one. We're up against the power"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "structure. We're up against the"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "military-industrial complexes with the"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "media bought and woven right into the"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "thing the things and it's a tough one."}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "But the professor who stopped the war is"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "a wonderful to me inspiring example. My"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "war in Angola, then young professor"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "Jerry Bender of UC San Diego who had"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "done his studies in Angola and he saw"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "what we were doing and they bothered him"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "and he couldn't figure out what to do"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "about it. How could he stop it? So one"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "day he picked up the telephone and he"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "called his senator and he said, \"Senator"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "Tunny, I have an expertise on Angola. I"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "see what the CI is doing. I think"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "they're lying to you. I think it's"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "dangerous. I would like the opportunity"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "to brief you. I will not waste your"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "time.\" And the senator listened to him"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "and came back to Washington and found"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "that we were indeed lying to the"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "Congress and he introduced the Tony"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "Amendment to the FY76 Defense"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "Appropriation Act that stopped my war in"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "Angola. Now, some years ago, I came to"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "talk to Admiral Lorac at the Center for"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "Defense Information here in Washington"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "because I was way over my head to ask"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "him, you know, people asked me, Admiral,"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "I said, \"What can I do?\" And I don't"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "know what to tell him specifically. And"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "and this beautiful old man, we were"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "having breakfast at his home and he"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "stood up. He said, \"I love that"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "question.\" He said, \"I tell people, I"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "don't know you, but you know yourselves."}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "You know what your capabilities are.\" He"}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "said, \"I tell people if you can write,"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "write articles, write letters, write"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "books, write telegrams. If you can"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "organize, organize, if you can travel,"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "go to Nicaragua or or the Las Vegas test"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "sites and see for yourself so you can be"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "an intelligent witness to what's"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "happening in the world. He said, and I"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "quote, I tell people if they feel"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "comfortable lying down in front of"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "bombs, trucks with bombs on them, to lie"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "down in front of trucks with bombs on"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "them. But he said, I tell them, you've"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "got to do what you can do every day of"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "your life. You can't wait until you"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "graduate next summer or get married or"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "get divorced or get a job because these"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "things malfunction all the time and"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "they're controlled by by intellectual"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:57", "text": "giants like Ronald Reagan and the world"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "may not be here by the time you graduate"}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "next summer or get divorced or get a job"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "or whatever. Thank you very much for"}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "hearing me out. Thank you."}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "If you enjoyed today's video on"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "Anonymous Official, leave a like and"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "subscribe if you haven't done so"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:22", "text": "already."}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "Thanks for watching and sticking with"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "us."}]

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These are government"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "controlled pastors. Now they have these"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "government controlled pastors under an"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "FBI program called Infrog Guard and it's"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "also connected to NASA and the CIA. It's"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "all public going around saying, \"I'm a"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "pastor that works for intelligence"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "agencies and the aliens are real. You"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "need to get ready to have your faith"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "shaken and about the Bible and Jesus.\""}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "And they're using it to undermine really"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "Christianity"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "saying they're defending it. So this is"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "a larger scop just to screw with"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "everybody's brains and to just further"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "shake confidence in society. That is"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "100% what's going on here. And they're"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "also setting the president to do a false"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "flag and claim it's aliens to create"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "even more hysteria. So this is queuing"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "up and preparing what is colloquially"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "known. It's not an official document."}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "There are official documents, but for"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "decades it's been known as blue beam,"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "meaning a fake alien invasion. What he"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "posted today is that it's up to people"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "to decide for themselves. Quote, again,"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "his words, not mine, quote, \"what the"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "hell is going on.\" Now, we have the"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "tapes. Look at this. Sencom's infrared"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "captured this star-shaped object back in"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "2013, flying around the Middle East,"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "banging 90° turns. Does not look"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "man-made. Now, check this out. Northern"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "Command captured this UFO in 2024. The"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "report says it's an inverted teardrop"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "with a vertical pole hanging off of it."}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "A UFO was even spotted over the Pacific"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "Ocean back in 2024 flying by some"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "windmills. Don't tell Trump. And in New"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "Mexico, an Air Force investigator said"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "he recovered human-shaped bodies from a"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "flying saucer back in 1950."}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:12", "text": ">> God is the creator of the universe. He's"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "never not going to create. So, it's"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "always been something in my mind to say,"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "\"Well, how can we be the only ones?\""}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "like God's not going to stop creating"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "just with us. But the more I look into"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "this um the more I see the Old Testament"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "and what was told to us there of uh"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "fallen angels and Nephilim. I mean this"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "is in the Bible. I there's nothing that"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "says that fallen angels that uh Nephilim"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "just disappeared. Uh and so I believe"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "that this could be an aspect of it. you"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "know there there are things that we have"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "seen um that could resemble uh portals"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "and you know I mean this is we serve an"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "infinite god a god of the universe and"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "to say that this is the only realm uh is"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "is ignorant and u so what I've seen I I"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "wouldn't you know put it as you know"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "Marvin the Martian kind of thing um but"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "I I do believe that this is more"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "spiritual and if you really want to go"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "there demonic"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:16", "text": ">> space launches Gemini Seven."}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:18", "text": ">> We have very very many uh looks like"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "hundreds of little uh"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "particles flying by the left out about"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "uh 3 to 4 miles."}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:30", "text": ">> Understand you have many small particles"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "going by on the left. At what distance?"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:36", "text": ">> Large. Looks like a"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "vehicle."}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:41", "text": ">> What else did they see up there? Buzz"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "Aldrin on his way to the moon. said he"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "saw a bright object floating out the"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "window that looked like an open"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "suitcase. And it wasn't just buzz."}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "Astronauts on the Apollo 12 mission said"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "right before the liftoff, they saw"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "bright flashes coming from the moon and"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "saw these orbs when they were on the"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "lunar surface. Apollo 17 astronauts also"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "saw flashes. They said it looked like"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "the 4th of July and when they landed,"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "more floating orbs. Now NASA's"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "officially looking back at the tapes to"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "see if they missed any alien life. This"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "is just the beginning. How excited are"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "you about this UFO release? I would put"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "it at a 10 because we're at a turning"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "point. For decades, we had to rely upon"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "eyewitness accounts of housewives, truck"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "drivers. People would snicker and laugh"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "at them. Now, we're talking about huge"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "files that are top secret that for the"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "first time in modern history are being"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "given to the American public. So, I'd"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "like to congratulate President Trump for"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "having the nerve to go against"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "recommendations by the FBI and the CIA"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "to release these files so that"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "independent researchers, scientists can"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "go over them and we can make up our own"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "minds rather than having the CIA make up"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "our minds. And the CIA apparently is"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "still fighting the full release. When"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "you hear or see about a UFO that goes"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "like that, up, down, left, right, at 90"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "degree angles so fast you can't even"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "believe it. What does that tell you? It"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "tells me that that the laws of"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "centriugal force should crush the bones"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "of the people inside the flying saucer."}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "So either there's basically an automated"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "flying saucer, so there are no bones to"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "crack as the thing goes zigzagging left"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "and right, or it represents a very high"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "level of intelligence to create"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "something like that. So in other words,"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "we humans cannot get into a spaceship"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "that goes zigzagging like that. Only"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "aliens can, but even their bones would"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "break. So it must be a very high level"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "of automated computer technology."}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:52", "text": ">> However, they also know that they can't"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "explain a lot. And so this is why"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "President Trump has released these"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "documents to kind of lift the veil on"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "all of these unresolved cases. And"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "there's an interesting thing is that on"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "the website uh the P the Pentagon's"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "website, it actually says uh that they"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "would welcome any uh analysis from the"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "private sector. So in effect welcoming"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "advice from"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:13", "text": ">> you've been digging through the first"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "set of these declassified documents"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "though. Has anything stood out to you?"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "Can you give an example of something?"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "you have to have been talking about some"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "of these accounts or what's in those"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "files. Tell us. We want to know."}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:26", "text": ">> Well, some of these accounts are are"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "brand new. Um, but if you are a"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "historian of ufology, if you can call"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "yourself something like that, uh, you"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "may be privy to this. What really"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "strikes me is that some of the videos,"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "like the ones we're seeing on our"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "screen, are coming from US Central"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "Command, the Middle East. And why is"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "that? Well, it's because there's a lot"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "of military equipment over there in the"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "Middle East, a lot of sensors, a lot of"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "aircraft, and they may pick up anomalies"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "that then get reported. And I think"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "that's what we're seeing now. So there's"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "a continuum of of files of incident"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "reports that have been coming in over"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "the last couple decades, but I'm really"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "struck by how many have come in in"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "recent years."}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:02", "text": ">> We have breaking news now. It's brand"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "new video and actually this is part of"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "it, but the president has just put out a"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "link and this furthers what was"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "announced earlier and reported on by"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "Peter Ducey of our team earlier. It's"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "called Pursue. He wants to release a mix"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "of previously classified and already"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "public files on unidentified anomalous"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "phenomena or UAP UFOs as well. Following"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "orders from President Trump, the ODNI,"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "Office of Director of National"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "Intelligence, NASA, and FBI are posting"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "raw, largely unanalyzed material online"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "on a rolling basis rather than offering"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "conclusions. Bottom line, the government"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "doesn't have clear answers. And so this"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "brand new truth social just moments ago."}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "Um, as for my promise to you, the"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "Department of War has released the first"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "trunch of the UFO UAP files to the"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "public for their review and study and an"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "effort for complete and maximum"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "transparency. It was my honor to direct"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "my administration to identify and"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "provide government files related to"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "alien and extraterrestrial life,"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "unidentified aerial phenomena, and"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "unidentified flying objects. Whereas"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "previous administrations have failed to"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "be transparent on the subject, with"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "these new documents and videos, the"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "people can decide for themselves. All"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "caps, what the H is going on. I cleaned"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "it up a bit there. Have fun and enjoy"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "President Donald J. Trump. So, this is"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "something that they are putting out"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "there."}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:25", "text": ">> Congress is also talking. One member"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "said that when President Carter got"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "briefed on UFOs, he was brought to"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "tears. And another member says he was"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "told that humans were being captured to"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "breed with aliens. Sounds crazy, but"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "there's a lot we don't know. Congressman"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "Burchett says he's seen tapes that would"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "blow your mind. They were showing me"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "things that were flying at at speeds"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "that were just that nothing compares."}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "And the and the angles that they were"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "taking would literally, and I've said"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "this before, and it grosses people out,"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "but it would turn you or me into a"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "ketchup package. I mean, we, you know,"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "you go this way and then boom, you're"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "going this way. And we have no no"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "capability of any of it. And now I've"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "been briefed so many times from on and"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "different different groups."}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:13", "text": ">> Something strange is going on. 13 top"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "scientists are dead or missing and"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "Congress is asking questions. It's"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "uncanny. You got a president, you know,"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "we've had these hearings in Washington."}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "you have a president that says he's"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "going to release stuff and all in that"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "same time frame before and after that"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "you're having some of these high um high"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "ranking officials disappear and to me"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "that's nobody disappears in this country"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "unless they they want to disappear."}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:40", "text": ">> One of the things that I thought of is"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "one of the subjects that these people"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "were they're all working on different"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "things but they're working on"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "alternative energy sources. Yeah, that's"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "that's the um that's the the I'm sorry I"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "didn't mean to cut you off, but that's"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "what ties them together."}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:55", "text": ">> A whistleblower says one of the missing"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "scientists was in charge of a classified"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "program related to UFOs. Now, we don't"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "know what's going on."}]

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That's"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "why they're continually turning"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "criminals back out into the streets. 15"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "people in a McDonald's. They get a $250"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "fine and a three three years in jail,"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "which is then when we find out what"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "actually happened, they got one year and"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "the fine was commuted. And so they're"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "back on the streets. They're turning"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "back onto the streets. I'm there's no"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "doubt in my mind that it is not because"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "of loss of space. So they don't have the"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "space for the criminal. They got space"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "for you if you don't pay your taxes. The"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "point is is that they they want as much"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "chaos in society. came out a long time"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "ago and since then the FBI has concluded"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "the same thing that the truly criminal"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "element in America is less than a 1% of"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "the total population of America are"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "truly criminal element 1% or less are"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "the are the real serious criminals"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "logic alone would tell you that if you"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "put those people in jail or you put them"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "to death you don't have any more serious"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "crime what now you you have very little"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "need for the police department. You have"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "very little need. The people now have"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "more time to think about things. They"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "don't have to worry about their"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "children. They don't have to worry about"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "their family. They don't have to worry"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "about crime in the streets."}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "Consequently, they can concentrate now"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "on who's running this government. How"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "fair are the equitable are the laws? And"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "so therefore, it's better to keep people"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "occupied. We've known that for a long"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "time. But that's why politics is called"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "political science. There is a method to"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "controlling people. Politics is referred"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "to as political science. It's a science."}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "If you can keep people organized uh keep"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "people disorganized, frightened,"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "fearful,"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "uh broke, that's another thing. They"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "want to keep you financially uh in a"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "hole. Uh then people are subservient to"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "you. You do not want people to become"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "self-sufficient and have enough money"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "that that they don't have to listen to"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "you. You need crime. And you'll see why."}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "I'll show you today why you need a lot"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "of crime. You need to let criminals back"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "out into the streets. They talk about"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "something. If you think about the logic"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "of behind these rules and behind these"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "new laws we have, it's absolutely"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "insanity. You someone a criminal goes"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "out each somebody. What do they do? They"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "take the gun away from the criminal and"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "they let the criminal go free. Then they"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "say that there's just a proliferation of"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "crime. We can't do anything about this"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "crime that's out of control. the drugs"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "and all the going on and the and the"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "gangs each other. But the point is is"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "that if you don't pay your income tax or"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "if you do something that's against the"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "government, the system of things, if you"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "get out of the line, they will find you."}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "The federal the IRS will find you if you"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "don't pay your income tax, you can go"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "into the Amazon jungles and they will"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "come down there looking for you. And if"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "they have to spend 7 million bucks,"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "they're going to find you and they're"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "going to bring you back here and make an"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "example out of you. So they have the"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "power. This is the most powerful"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "military nation in the face of the"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "earth. Ever ever devised by men. This"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "nation is the most powerful military"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "combine on earth. It has always been."}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "And if you think about the time back in"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "what 50 years ago in 1940 when the"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "United States was a very u country, it"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "didn't have all of the high technology"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "it has today. And just within a couple"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "of short years, uh, it got its stuff"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "together and was able to meet Adolf"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "Hitler on the field of battle throughout"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "the world and was able to do battle with"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "the whole empire. But they can't do"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "anything about the Jupyo. The problem is"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "is that they have total control over"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "everything. So anytime you see things"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "going on, uh, understand that the powers"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "that be in this government want it that"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "way. Franklin Roosevelt, probably most"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "of you don't remember who he was. He was"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "one of the presidents. Franklin"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "Roosevelt made a statement publicly"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "that I think is very important. He said"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "that anytime you see anything happen in"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "politics, you better understand it was"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "planned that way. So, anything that's"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "going on in this country that you see"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "that sounds crazy and lunacy, it's crazy"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "and lunacy to you. But to those guys who"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "are doing it, they know what they're"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "doing. There is a method to the madness."}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "I want to show you and I think it'd be"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "better if I just go on and begin with"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "the slides because I have so many of"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "them and I'll just stop and comment as"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "we're going. Um we're going to be able"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "to well I don't let's see uh is that is"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "okay dollar bill you'll see the u back"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "of the dollar bill you'll see the symbol"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "on the left hand side of the bill which"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "is uh I knew it coept us which means our"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "enterprise is now a success or our"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "enterprise is crowned with success."}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "I know it corrupt us. So you're saying"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "fine. So you have an enterprise and is"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "now crowned with success. What"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "enterprise are you talking about? Novas"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "Odo secllorum. Novas is novice meaning"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "new. Oro is order and clllorium is where"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "we get the word secular meaning the"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "world. So it's new world order. George"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "Bush's new world order is now a success."}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "But the problem is this was put on the"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "dollar bill back in 1934."}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "1934 is when the Federal Reserve"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "actually finally took total control of"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "the United States monetary system. 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And"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "that's why the light is emanating from a"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "realm because it's a sun. The sun is a"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "realm eyeball of God. The ancient"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "Egyptians believe the pupil of God was"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "the sun and he's watching you. And"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "therefore, the sun was was the bright."}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "And so today we even say someone who is"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "extremely intelligent is brilliant."}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "They're bright. And that's why God is of"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "course the most brilliant of all."}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "Therefore, the sun is the most brilliant"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "because it's God's eye. All right."}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "Anyway, there are 13 layers on the"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "pyramid. And the 776, a lot of people"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "think it's because of the country being"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "founded in 1776. It has nothing to do"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "with that. As I said, this is on a doc a"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "document published back in 177475"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "and then in 1776 the Roman appeared on"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "it in Europe. 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They were the"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "basis for what we call today in our"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "country the Bavarian um Illuminati were"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "basis for what we call today the"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "Colombian faction. The Colombian faction"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "of the Illuminati came here right after"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "this government was formed and that's"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "where we get today Colombia Colombia uh"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "Colombia Space Shuttle, Colombia movies,"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "Colombia television, you know,"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "everything. Colombia University. As a"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "matter of fact, Colombia TV, Colombia"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "Broadcasting System, CBS. What is the"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "symbol for CBS? It's the allseeing eye"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "of CBS. It's the Colombian faction of a"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "secret society that calls themselves the"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "Colombians. And that's why our"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "government is in the District of"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "Colombia because these guys own our"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "government. They print our money and"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "they own not only the government, but"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "they own you. You are their property. As"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "a matter of fact, when you're born, your"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "birth certificate, and on the bottom of"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "the birth certificate, it says the"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "Department of uh Commerce. It is a"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "property of the Department of Commerce"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "because you are nothing more than a"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "piece of commercial material. That's why"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "if you're out of work, you don't go to"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "the unemployment office. you go to the"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "office for uh what is it called human"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "resources cuz you're just a human"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "resource. So in other words, these guys"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "print the money, they run the country,"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "and they own you and they own everything"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "around it. And so they make the laws and"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "that's why they can decide who can who"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "and who can get away with whatever"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "because they make the laws and they"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "decide. All right. Um the new order of"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "the world, our enterprise is now a"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "success. As I said to you before, there"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "are 13 layers in this pyramid. There are"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "13 letters in ano coeptus. Uh we'll get"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "into that uh all of this symbolism"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "later, but 13 is a very important number"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "to this secret society. There 13"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "stripes, there are 13 stars here which"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "make up the star of David. Um the"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "berries, there are 13 leaves, 13 arrows,"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "uh their feathers here, there. Uh"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "everything is done in sequence of 13"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "because 13 is an unlucky number. That's"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "why, you know, 13 is an unlucky number"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "because the reason why we say it's"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "unlucky is because it is a divinely"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "inspired number. It has to do with God"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "in the heavens and therefore it's"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "unlucky for you and it's not supposed to"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "be used by you. 13 of course is based on"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "the it's this is what we call Masonic"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "symbolism. Freemasons designed this"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "dollar bill. Everything is done in"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "sequence of of 13. And again, I draw"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "your attention to the fact that you have"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "13 stars here which collectively make up"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "the Star of David. There's a reason why."}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "Uh here the dollar bill just to show you"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "how clever these guys are and how crafty"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "they are. They um on the $1 bill at the"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "top, you'll see this little image right"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "here. I think I can make that. This is"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "just a large uh an an enlargement from a"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "photocopy machine. So, it's not really"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "that that, but if you blow it up from an"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "actual photograph, you'll see it is a"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "little owl. The symbol of the Bohemian"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "Society. The Bohemian Society meets in"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "California on the last two weeks of July"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "of every year. The Bohemian Society is"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "another secret society that was spun off"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "of a of a larger secret society. The"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "Colombians have a little fun club that"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "they meet for two weeks out of the year"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "in Northern California. They're called"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "the Bohemian Society. They meet in"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "something called the Bohemian Grove. I"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "have pictures which I don't have with me"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "tonight but I'm going to have on my next"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "lecture uh showing all the living"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "presidents"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "excluding the new one but all of the"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "living presidents at the Bohemian Grove"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "in Northern California and they're all"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "wearing red and black um clan dress type"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "of regalia like the Kux claners with the"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "pointed headdress and everything and u"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "I'm psyched to see residents dressed"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "like Kuplex clan members, right? And"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "they're standing in front of a big open"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "pit of fire and behind them is a about a"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "25 20 25 ft owl behind them. And the"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "article in Elm magazine and Time"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "magazine, I've got two or three"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "different magazines showing basically"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "the same pictures that says that the"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "presidents meet with all of the heads of"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "industry throughout the world, all of"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "the heads of state throughout the world,"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "and all of the most important Wheeler"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "dealers in this country, and they all"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "meet up in Northern California, and they"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "have rituals where they go before the"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "owl after midnight."}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "And then what a picture you got with all"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "the presidents dressed up like Ku Klux"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "Claners with black and red robes on"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "before an owl. And these are your"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "presidents of this country. And the"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "reason why they chose the owl is because"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "the owl is a symbol used in Europe by"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "secret societies because the owl is wise"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "because it sees things in the dark. The"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "implication is of course that's why they"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "are where they are because they're very"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "brilliant and they know things that you"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "don't know. So they see things in the"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "dark and they put their little owl on"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "the dollar bill. It's just a clever"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "little thing, but it shows you how these"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "guys think. Uh we get into Masonic"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "symbolism."}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "Uh when you drive by a Freemason's uh"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "lodge, you'll see the the the compass"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "and then the G in the middle. The G is"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "for not God. Everyone thinks it's for"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "God. It's not. It's for geometry."}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "Actually, it goes back even further than"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "geometry. In 1717, it was stood for"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "geometry. But the G has been used by"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "secret societies as far back as ancient"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "Greece meaning the gen generative"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "principle the principle of generation or"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "sexual principle in nature. And so uh"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "when you see that G just remember it"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "stands for geometry. Now so talking"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "about geometry here is um a geometric"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "figure of um a ring square. the circle,"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "the triangle, the square, all have uh"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "all Masonic and spiritual meaning as"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "you'll see. But here we have the uh"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "within the magic circle is the um the"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "Washington from above the square within"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "the magic circle. Incidentally, the the"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "monument is the Egyptian obelis. Another"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "like the pyramid on the dollar bill,"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "another Egyptian symbol because what"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "America is referred to by the secret"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "societies throughout the world as the"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "new Egypt. That's a term that is given"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "to them in their literature, the new"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "Egypt."}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "Because our whole laws are based on the"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "ancient magic of Egypt, the white and"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "black magic. That's why your police cars"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "have black and white cars because it's"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "the idea of black and white magic coming"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "out of Egypt. And you know, these people"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "around the country are really devious."}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "But here we have the mystic star. I"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "think I'm probably going to have to"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "adjust each one. Here's uh the mystic"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "star to give you an example is a"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "seven-pointed star that's used in secret"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "societies. You'll see it all over"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "seven-pointed star. Here's the Masonic"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "Orders of Fraternity. Again, you'll see"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "it uh Golden Dawn, Enoch. Incidentally,"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "uh as I said, this whole thing is going"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "to be like a shotgun effect. I'm"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "covering a lot of stuff, but um the old"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "symbol of Wayne in the movies, remember"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "in the old movies when uh when the pling"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "off on the aircraft carriers, you'd"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "always see the military doing the thumbs"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "up signal. You know, when they're ready"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "to take off, the thumbs up. Well, that"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "thumbs up signal was developed for"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "America by Alistister Crowley, one of"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "the most master magicians the world's"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "ever known. And he also developed for"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "England, uh for Churchill the victory"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "sign, the V for victory. uh the vape of"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "vicrius from the Jewish Masonic symbol"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "for benediction and life. You'll see"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "that in a few minutes too. But uh just"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "to show you that symbols and emblems"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "don't just happen. They they for a"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "reason. They mean something. Again, we"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "go back to the sevenointed star and uh"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "California Highway Patrol. Wait a"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "minute. I had there it is. California"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "Highway Patrol uses pointed star. It has"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "to do with the inkian magic and um it's"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "a magical seven of course is the same"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "seven but reason why we have seven days"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "of the week. Uh the synagogues have the"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "seven candle lamp stand, the seven raid"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "kingdom. Everything is done in seven. Uh"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "it's a very numbered. Um here's a double"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "which was Roman Freemasonry. The double"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "cross which is Eastern uh the Eastern uh"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "the Russian Orthodox, the Greek and the"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "uh and the Eastern Orthodox Church uses"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "the double cross. And it's appropriate"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "because that's exactly what we're"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "talking about here. A double cross. If"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "we understand what where that from"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "double cross implies that you've been"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "deceived or been cheated or something"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "uh it's a means something and I'll show"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "you how it is uh incorporated into"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "politics cross like here and of course"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "on Exxon you have the double cross and I"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "had a letter from the Exxon Corporation"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "asking them if that was the double cross"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "of Eastern Freemasonry and they said yes"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "that's why we did it that way. So I mean"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "they don't know if you are smart enough"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "to figure it out. They'll tell you they"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "you write them and they'll be very"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "honest with you. Um"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "here's uh interesting the uh to you the"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "five-pointed inverted pentagram is"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "generally the inverted pentagram is"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "regarded as something representing evil."}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "Uh the five-pointed pent of course being"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "uh five. If you take the arms off of a"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "pentagram the star and you have just the"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "inside you have what is called a"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "pentagon. That's why the United States"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "has a Pentagon. The Pentagon is a"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "symbol."}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "That's why, incidentally, Chrysler can"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "use the Pentagon symbol as a Chrysler"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "symbol because they're the ones that"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "produced all of the hat tracks and tanks"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "and everything else for the United"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "States during the Second World War for"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "the Pentagon. So, they still use the"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "symbol of the Pentagon. But what's"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "interesting is that this is an upside"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "down with the point pointing down, the"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "two pointing up. And this is symbol of"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "course, as I said, representing the"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "devil. And you see a lot of these and"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "rapists. And you know what the five"}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "pointed P uh here it is again just"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "showing you how it's has its connotation"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "with the pointing down being the devil."}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "Here's the first synagogue in Los"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "Angeles of the Benai Britain in 1873."}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "And up here what do you see is the"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "inverted pentagram. We're talking about"}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "this is the first synagogue in Los"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:17", "text": "Angeles. And they're using an inverted"}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "pentagram which everyone knows is"}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "associated from the earliest ages in the"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "middle ages with devil worship. Okay."}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "Um, here's a seven ray kingdom of God."}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "Seven flames and the seven candles of"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "light. Incidentally, the seven candle"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "lamps stand in the synagogue. The seven"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "candles represent the seven lights of"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "the heavens. Mercury, Venus, Mars,"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "Jupiter, Saturn, the sun, and the moon."}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "The seven ancient gods of the ancient"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "world. So when you see the seven candle,"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "that's a very holy seven candle lamp."}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "No, it just represents the seven little"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "lights in the heavens. And each one of"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "those each one of those lights those"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "gods represented a day. 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Um, here's the"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "Panorama Mall has an emblem and I put"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "the shell symbol next to it so you can"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "see what we're talking about here in"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "Shell is a sunrising between two"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "triangles. The sun rising between that's"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "a sunrise. It's not a shell just like"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:35", "text": "the Toyota. you see the sun rising and I"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "wrote a letter to um the Shell Oil"}, {"start": "00:20:35", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "Corporation"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "and I sent them like this and I had some"}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "extensive research material I sent with"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "them and said is this true? is this is"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "this not in fact a shell but is a"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "sunrise which is a symbol of a secret"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "society in Europe and it is used in in"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "this way and they said yes said yes it"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "is a secret society symbol it's been"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:21:00", "text": "used for the last 100 years um Prince"}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:21:02", "text": "Bernard of the Netherlands ac was a"}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "secret society and so when you drop by a"}, {"start": "00:21:02", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "shell just remember it's not a shell"}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "it's a sunrise of a secret society and"}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "I'll get into that what it means later"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:11", "text": "and it's just to show you how emblems"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:13", "text": "and symbols"}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "all around us and we don't even know"}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "what they mean. Um here's another one. U"}, {"start": "00:21:17", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "the the eight pointed is two squares"}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "each other. Get it better. There's a"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "square here and then a square here. And"}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:28", "text": "it's called the double square of"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "Freemasonry."}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "The reason for the double square, the"}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "first square means that you play fair"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "and square. You know when you play"}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "baseball, you play baseball the town"}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "square. And if you uh anything which is"}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:45", "text": "legitimate and and and right to the"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "secret society to play fair and square"}, {"start": "00:21:45", "end": "00:21:49", "text": "and if you go to jail they'll give you"}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "three square meals. It's fair. It's it's"}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "it's the right thing to do, right? And"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "the whole idea of square means that"}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:21:59", "text": "everything which is right and legal and"}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "just and everything's squared. So that's"}, {"start": "00:21:59", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "why even in court they say well your"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "testimony doesn't square with the with"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:07", "text": "the facts. It square means things right"}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:09", "text": "and correct. When you superimpose"}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "another square, the imp the implications"}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:14", "text": "of the second square which you will see"}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:17", "text": "means disorder."}, {"start": "00:22:14", "end": "00:22:19", "text": "It's the intertwining of both order and"}, {"start": "00:22:17", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "disorder. Meaning that you have the"}, {"start": "00:22:19", "end": "00:22:23", "text": "power over what is right and correct."}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "And you also have the power over"}, {"start": "00:22:23", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "disorder and things which are not right"}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:29", "text": "and which are not correct. And so the"}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "same people control both chaos and"}, {"start": "00:22:29", "end": "00:22:34", "text": "order. Incidentally, uh that's why you"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:37", "text": "have um well, better not do that because"}, {"start": "00:22:34", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "that's come up in a minute. Uh here it"}, {"start": "00:22:37", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "is again, the double square Freemasonry."}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:45", "text": "The chevron chevron oil is actually the"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "double cremasony. This is two squares."}, {"start": "00:22:45", "end": "00:22:50", "text": "Now, wait a minute. This is two squares."}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "What this chevron is, and that's the"}, {"start": "00:22:50", "end": "00:22:54", "text": "word chevron. Uh you'll see on the"}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:56", "text": "military, the police wear them on their"}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:22:58", "text": "on their arms and the military wears the"}, {"start": "00:22:56", "end": "00:23:01", "text": "insignas of power. They're called"}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "chevrons because they are squares. It's"}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:05", "text": "a box. That's a box and this is this box"}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:07", "text": "is sitting on top of that box. And if"}, {"start": "00:23:05", "end": "00:23:09", "text": "you draw a line, you know, for a"}, {"start": "00:23:07", "end": "00:23:11", "text": "triangle back here, you'll see a square"}, {"start": "00:23:09", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "boxes sitting on top of each other. It's"}, {"start": "00:23:11", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "referred to as the double square or the"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:17", "text": "chevron of Freemasonry, the double"}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "square of Freemasonry. Okay? And so it"}, {"start": "00:23:17", "end": "00:23:23", "text": "implies that the powers in this world"}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:25", "text": "have both control over revolution,"}, {"start": "00:23:23", "end": "00:23:28", "text": "trouble, anarchy, and they have control"}, {"start": "00:23:25", "end": "00:23:29", "text": "over good government. and overrighteous"}, {"start": "00:23:28", "end": "00:23:30", "text": "government. So they can do whatever they"}, {"start": "00:23:29", "end": "00:23:31", "text": "want. You want to have a good government"}, {"start": "00:23:30", "end": "00:23:32", "text": "or a bad government, they can do the"}, {"start": "00:23:31", "end": "00:23:33", "text": "same. They can do whatever they want"}, {"start": "00:23:32", "end": "00:23:35", "text": "because they got the money and they got"}, {"start": "00:23:33", "end": "00:23:37", "text": "the power. Here in England, of course,"}, {"start": "00:23:35", "end": "00:23:40", "text": "it's more appropriate in England is the"}, {"start": "00:23:37", "end": "00:23:42", "text": "double square Freemasonry and in London"}, {"start": "00:23:40", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "at the uh Parliament. Steven says the"}, {"start": "00:23:42", "end": "00:23:48", "text": "octagonal central library and has square"}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:49", "text": "the double square Freemasonry. And of"}, {"start": "00:23:48", "end": "00:23:51", "text": "course think it's appropriate there"}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:54", "text": "because they do in fact finance and"}, {"start": "00:23:51", "end": "00:23:56", "text": "organize and direct all over the world."}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:23:58", "text": "All kinds of bloodshed and violence all"}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "over the world is being organized,"}, {"start": "00:23:58", "end": "00:24:01", "text": "directed and financed by the United"}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:04", "text": "States government and the British"}, {"start": "00:24:01", "end": "00:24:06", "text": "government together, Britain and America"}, {"start": "00:24:04", "end": "00:24:08", "text": "are the reason for violence and the"}, {"start": "00:24:06", "end": "00:24:11", "text": "chaos that we're seeing throughout the"}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:12", "text": "world today. And uh Yugoslavia has all"}, {"start": "00:24:11", "end": "00:24:14", "text": "been planned. This is all part of"}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:15", "text": "something that the United States is"}, {"start": "00:24:14", "end": "00:24:18", "text": "doing in the Middle East right now. in"}, {"start": "00:24:15", "end": "00:24:20", "text": "Yugoslavia is going to pay for it. Um"}, {"start": "00:24:18", "end": "00:24:22", "text": "again we have the double square. All"}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:25", "text": "right. Uh here is the double square"}, {"start": "00:24:22", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "Freemasonry war by the queen and the"}, {"start": "00:24:25", "end": "00:24:30", "text": "square is um the Masonic square is"}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:33", "text": "referred to as the knights of Malta"}, {"start": "00:24:30", "end": "00:24:34", "text": "square. This one is the British square"}, {"start": "00:24:33", "end": "00:24:36", "text": "Freemasonry. The Knights of Malta."}, {"start": "00:24:34", "end": "00:24:38", "text": "You'll see it's like two four little"}, {"start": "00:24:36", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "triangles coming together but they don't"}, {"start": "00:24:38", "end": "00:24:42", "text": "they don't actually have a point in the"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:45", "text": "middle. It's round or nothingness in the"}, {"start": "00:24:42", "end": "00:24:47", "text": "middle. You'll see that again in Arco"}, {"start": "00:24:45", "end": "00:24:50", "text": "where the four little points come"}, {"start": "00:24:47", "end": "00:24:52", "text": "together but nothing in the middle. The"}, {"start": "00:24:50", "end": "00:24:54", "text": "Knights of Malta is the square of"}, {"start": "00:24:52", "end": "00:24:57", "text": "Knights of Malta is the pyramid from the"}, {"start": "00:24:54", "end": "00:25:00", "text": "top looking down on the pyramid of Egypt"}, {"start": "00:24:57", "end": "00:25:01", "text": "without the capstone. That's because"}, {"start": "00:25:00", "end": "00:25:03", "text": "remember on the dollar bill the capstone"}, {"start": "00:25:01", "end": "00:25:06", "text": "doesn't have is not connected to the"}, {"start": "00:25:03", "end": "00:25:07", "text": "body of the pyramid. So flying over the"}, {"start": "00:25:06", "end": "00:25:10", "text": "top of the pyramid looking down on the"}, {"start": "00:25:07", "end": "00:25:12", "text": "great pyramid you don't have a point"}, {"start": "00:25:10", "end": "00:25:15", "text": "because the chief cornerstone is not on"}, {"start": "00:25:12", "end": "00:25:17", "text": "the pyramid actual and I just threw this"}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:19", "text": "in. I don't know why but I did. Here's"}, {"start": "00:25:17", "end": "00:25:22", "text": "under life and fascism. I wanted to make"}, {"start": "00:25:19", "end": "00:25:24", "text": "the point about political symbols. Uh we"}, {"start": "00:25:22", "end": "00:25:26", "text": "talk we hear a lot of people talking on"}, {"start": "00:25:24", "end": "00:25:28", "text": "radio and television about fascism and"}, {"start": "00:25:26", "end": "00:25:30", "text": "how bad the fascists are and fascism"}, {"start": "00:25:28", "end": "00:25:33", "text": "this and fascism that. Well, in most"}, {"start": "00:25:30", "end": "00:25:36", "text": "cases, fascism fascism or fascists have"}, {"start": "00:25:33", "end": "00:25:38", "text": "come to power after the nation is an"}, {"start": "00:25:36", "end": "00:25:41", "text": "economic collapse. Are we having"}, {"start": "00:25:38", "end": "00:25:44", "text": "problems economically or what? Right. A"}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:47", "text": "military defeat. Vietnam and some other"}, {"start": "00:25:44", "end": "00:25:49", "text": "disaster. The fascist party wins mass"}, {"start": "00:25:47", "end": "00:25:53", "text": "support by promising to revive the"}, {"start": "00:25:49", "end": "00:25:54", "text": "economy and restore national pride. And"}, {"start": "00:25:53", "end": "00:25:56", "text": "that's exactly what the government's"}, {"start": "00:25:54", "end": "00:25:59", "text": "saying today. They need to res restore"}, {"start": "00:25:56", "end": "00:26:01", "text": "national pride. get uh Clinton in there"}, {"start": "00:25:59", "end": "00:26:05", "text": "to be president. And no one seems to"}, {"start": "00:26:01", "end": "00:26:08", "text": "realize Bill Clinton is a road scholar,"}, {"start": "00:26:05", "end": "00:26:10", "text": "trained at England and London, England"}, {"start": "00:26:08", "end": "00:26:14", "text": "and Oxford University, bought and paid"}, {"start": "00:26:10", "end": "00:26:16", "text": "for by the Rockefeller Foundation,"}, {"start": "00:26:14", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "financed and organized his education. He"}, {"start": "00:26:16", "end": "00:26:20", "text": "is nothing more than a yes man for the"}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:22", "text": "power elites in this country. They want"}, {"start": "00:26:20", "end": "00:26:24", "text": "another candidate cuz he looks good."}, {"start": "00:26:22", "end": "00:26:26", "text": "personal liberties are severely limited"}, {"start": "00:26:24", "end": "00:26:29", "text": "under a fascist government, which is I'm"}, {"start": "00:26:26", "end": "00:26:31", "text": "saying that's what we have here. And the"}, {"start": "00:26:29", "end": "00:26:33", "text": "government also controls newspapers or"}, {"start": "00:26:31", "end": "00:26:34", "text": "radio and other means of communication."}, {"start": "00:26:33", "end": "00:26:36", "text": "That's why I'm not on nationwide"}, {"start": "00:26:34", "end": "00:26:38", "text": "television, right? And the issues, it"}, {"start": "00:26:36", "end": "00:26:42", "text": "issues propaganda to promote its"}, {"start": "00:26:38", "end": "00:26:45", "text": "policies. And boy, does that. Um, let's"}, {"start": "00:26:42", "end": "00:26:48", "text": "see. Oh, yeah. Wait a minute. This is"}, {"start": "00:26:45", "end": "00:26:50", "text": "interesting. A police force crushes it"}, {"start": "00:26:48", "end": "00:26:51", "text": "resistance. I like the word crush"}, {"start": "00:26:50", "end": "00:26:53", "text": "because that's what they do. You get in"}, {"start": "00:26:51", "end": "00:26:56", "text": "their way, they come out and beat your"}, {"start": "00:26:53", "end": "00:26:58", "text": "brains out. Right. So, um, here is a"}, {"start": "00:26:56", "end": "00:27:00", "text": "symbol of fascism. I thought I had one."}, {"start": "00:26:58", "end": "00:27:02", "text": "Here it is. French fascism. This is the"}, {"start": "00:27:00", "end": "00:27:05", "text": "symbol for a bundle of sticks with a"}, {"start": "00:27:02", "end": "00:27:08", "text": "hatchet head. Here is a uh another"}, {"start": "00:27:05", "end": "00:27:11", "text": "here's another incidentally behind a red"}, {"start": "00:27:08", "end": "00:27:14", "text": "shield. He's Robin Hood."}, {"start": "00:27:11", "end": "00:27:16", "text": "Why? Because the red shield is is German"}, {"start": "00:27:14", "end": "00:27:18", "text": "for Rothchild. The Rothschilds of"}, {"start": "00:27:16", "end": "00:27:21", "text": "England were a German in England who"}, {"start": "00:27:18", "end": "00:27:23", "text": "took over the Bank of England and took"}, {"start": "00:27:21", "end": "00:27:25", "text": "over five other banks in Europe and"}, {"start": "00:27:23", "end": "00:27:28", "text": "became known as the Rothschild banking"}, {"start": "00:27:25", "end": "00:27:31", "text": "dynasty of the world. The richest"}, {"start": "00:27:28", "end": "00:27:33", "text": "banking dynasty on earth. Okay. Roth"}, {"start": "00:27:31", "end": "00:27:36", "text": "shield in German. Roth is red and shield"}, {"start": "00:27:33", "end": "00:27:38", "text": "is flag or or a shield. So Roth shield"}, {"start": "00:27:36", "end": "00:27:40", "text": "fascist was an authoritarian political"}, {"start": "00:27:38", "end": "00:27:43", "text": "movement that developed in Italy several"}, {"start": "00:27:40", "end": "00:27:45", "text": "other European countries in 1919."}, {"start": "00:27:43", "end": "00:27:48", "text": "Its name was derived from the fascist."}, {"start": "00:27:45", "end": "00:27:50", "text": "This thing here, an ancient Roman symbol"}, {"start": "00:27:48", "end": "00:27:53", "text": "of authority consisting of a bundle of"}, {"start": "00:27:50", "end": "00:27:56", "text": "rods and an axe. That's incidentally why"}, {"start": "00:27:53", "end": "00:27:59", "text": "we had axis powers in the Second World"}, {"start": "00:27:56", "end": "00:28:01", "text": "War. Here's the uh bundle of sticks with"}, {"start": "00:27:59", "end": "00:28:03", "text": "the axe. And this is on symbol on the"}, {"start": "00:28:01", "end": "00:28:04", "text": "back of the dime. The symbol for fascism"}, {"start": "00:28:03", "end": "00:28:07", "text": "on America the back of the American"}, {"start": "00:28:04", "end": "00:28:09", "text": "dime. There it is. I mean, this is on"}, {"start": "00:28:07", "end": "00:28:12", "text": "fascist country. And it says fascism is"}, {"start": "00:28:09", "end": "00:28:13", "text": "a dirty evil government that takes over"}, {"start": "00:28:12", "end": "00:28:15", "text": "and controls the people. Well, of course"}, {"start": "00:28:13", "end": "00:28:17", "text": "it does. That's what's happening to us."}, {"start": "00:28:15", "end": "00:28:19", "text": "We've been taken over and controlled by"}, {"start": "00:28:17", "end": "00:28:20", "text": "fascists. And and and why? And here it"}, {"start": "00:28:19", "end": "00:28:22", "text": "is. The president of the United States"}, {"start": "00:28:20", "end": "00:28:24", "text": "giving a state of the union message. And"}, {"start": "00:28:22", "end": "00:28:27", "text": "what's on each side of him? The fas"}, {"start": "00:28:24", "end": "00:28:28", "text": "eyes. This is in the Congress. In the"}, {"start": "00:28:27", "end": "00:28:31", "text": "Congress, there are symbols of war,"}, {"start": "00:28:28", "end": "00:28:34", "text": "symbols of power for the president's two"}, {"start": "00:28:31", "end": "00:28:35", "text": "large fash. And very few people have"}, {"start": "00:28:34", "end": "00:28:37", "text": "ever even noticed them. They're looking"}, {"start": "00:28:35", "end": "00:28:39", "text": "at this guy and they don't even see"}, {"start": "00:28:37", "end": "00:28:42", "text": "these symbols of world fascist power."}, {"start": "00:28:39", "end": "00:28:43", "text": "Okay, in case you're so blind you can't"}, {"start": "00:28:42", "end": "00:28:46", "text": "see, I blew one up. I'm sure you can see"}, {"start": "00:28:43", "end": "00:28:48", "text": "it. That is a fasi, a bundle of sticks"}, {"start": "00:28:46", "end": "00:28:50", "text": "with a hatchet head and it was used. Let"}, {"start": "00:28:48", "end": "00:28:53", "text": "me explain why it's a bundle of sticks."}, {"start": "00:28:50", "end": "00:28:56", "text": "The idea was in the Roman Empire that"}, {"start": "00:28:53", "end": "00:28:59", "text": "Rome could not police the world. What"}, {"start": "00:28:56", "end": "00:29:02", "text": "Rome needed to do was to collectivize a"}, {"start": "00:28:59", "end": "00:29:04", "text": "police force. That's why George Bush"}, {"start": "00:29:02", "end": "00:29:06", "text": "keeps talking about it's not just us in"}, {"start": "00:29:04", "end": "00:29:09", "text": "the Middle East, not just us in the"}, {"start": "00:29:06", "end": "00:29:12", "text": "Middle East. It's we merely represent uh"}, {"start": "00:29:09", "end": "00:29:14", "text": "a contingent of a group of nations"}, {"start": "00:29:12", "end": "00:29:18", "text": "there, not just America. The concept of"}, {"start": "00:29:14", "end": "00:29:21", "text": "it's not one stick, it's many sticks"}, {"start": "00:29:18", "end": "00:29:23", "text": "joined together with a hatchet head. So,"}, {"start": "00:29:21", "end": "00:29:26", "text": "one person, one government can't do it."}, {"start": "00:29:23", "end": "00:29:28", "text": "Bush says what we need is a united"}, {"start": "00:29:26", "end": "00:29:32", "text": "nations where we can all unite our"}, {"start": "00:29:28", "end": "00:29:34", "text": "sticks together. And now we got power."}, {"start": "00:29:32", "end": "00:29:37", "text": "Now everybody crawls on their knees and"}, {"start": "00:29:34", "end": "00:29:41", "text": "kiss the boots because they have a"}, {"start": "00:29:37", "end": "00:29:42", "text": "collective consensus of fascist rulers."}, {"start": "00:29:41", "end": "00:29:44", "text": "All these guys get together. That's like"}, {"start": "00:29:42", "end": "00:29:46", "text": "the east side mafia getting together"}, {"start": "00:29:44", "end": "00:29:48", "text": "with the west side and bring in the New"}, {"start": "00:29:46", "end": "00:29:50", "text": "York boys and some of the families out"}, {"start": "00:29:48", "end": "00:29:52", "text": "in the west coast and let's put this"}, {"start": "00:29:50", "end": "00:29:54", "text": "thing together and really rape these"}, {"start": "00:29:52", "end": "00:29:56", "text": "people good. And that's what the symbol"}, {"start": "00:29:54", "end": "00:30:00", "text": "of fascism means. They now have an axe"}, {"start": "00:29:56", "end": "00:30:02", "text": "tied together with a consensus of power."}, {"start": "00:30:00", "end": "00:30:03", "text": "We have a fascist world government right"}, {"start": "00:30:02", "end": "00:30:06", "text": "here in America. Here's the United"}, {"start": "00:30:03", "end": "00:30:08", "text": "States Senate. Two fas on the Senate. I"}, {"start": "00:30:06", "end": "00:30:10", "text": "mean, even in playing cards, you got fas"}, {"start": "00:30:08", "end": "00:30:12", "text": "eyes with the king and the jack. That"}, {"start": "00:30:10", "end": "00:30:14", "text": "means something. Reason why the act the"}, {"start": "00:30:12", "end": "00:30:16", "text": "ace is the highest card in the deck."}, {"start": "00:30:14", "end": "00:30:20", "text": "That's something else. Aces are always"}, {"start": "00:30:16", "end": "00:30:21", "text": "higher than the king for a reason. Um,"}, {"start": "00:30:20", "end": "00:30:24", "text": "here's another symbol, a geometric"}, {"start": "00:30:21", "end": "00:30:26", "text": "symbol used in Freemasonry by the secret"}, {"start": "00:30:24", "end": "00:30:28", "text": "society, the triangle, the pyramid, the"}, {"start": "00:30:26", "end": "00:30:31", "text": "circle again. And incidentally, the"}, {"start": "00:30:28", "end": "00:30:32", "text": "pyramid or the triangle is important"}, {"start": "00:30:31", "end": "00:30:35", "text": "because it goes back to the old pyramid"}, {"start": "00:30:32", "end": "00:30:37", "text": "of Chops, which incidentally, I don't"}, {"start": "00:30:35", "end": "00:30:40", "text": "know if you know this, but the the big"}, {"start": "00:30:37", "end": "00:30:44", "text": "pyramid in in in uh the call pyramid of"}, {"start": "00:30:40", "end": "00:30:45", "text": "Chops in Egypt has no peak, has no"}, {"start": "00:30:44", "end": "00:30:47", "text": "point."}, {"start": "00:30:45", "end": "00:30:50", "text": "It's it's the the chief cornerstone of"}, {"start": "00:30:47", "end": "00:30:53", "text": "the point. Circle represents of course"}, {"start": "00:30:50", "end": "00:30:56", "text": "the sun. The sun always the circle and"}, {"start": "00:30:53", "end": "00:30:58", "text": "and it has to do with Stonehenge."}, {"start": "00:30:56", "end": "00:31:02", "text": "Stonehenge is a symbol for the sun and"}, {"start": "00:30:58", "end": "00:31:04", "text": "the old uh Anglo-Saxon Germanic secret"}, {"start": "00:31:02", "end": "00:31:05", "text": "society. So that's why Stonehenge and"}, {"start": "00:31:04", "end": "00:31:08", "text": "the pyramid are connected. The"}, {"start": "00:31:05", "end": "00:31:10", "text": "numerology and and uh the pyramid are"}, {"start": "00:31:08", "end": "00:31:12", "text": "both the same. There's a lot of"}, {"start": "00:31:10", "end": "00:31:13", "text": "interesting stuff there when you get in"}, {"start": "00:31:12", "end": "00:31:16", "text": "numerology of the pyramid and"}, {"start": "00:31:13", "end": "00:31:18", "text": "Stonehenge. But here's an example of how"}, {"start": "00:31:16", "end": "00:31:20", "text": "symbols are used. All right, here's a"}, {"start": "00:31:18", "end": "00:31:22", "text": "dictionary of Freemasonry. And here I'll"}, {"start": "00:31:20", "end": "00:31:23", "text": "blow it up. Uh you'll see the triangle"}, {"start": "00:31:22", "end": "00:31:25", "text": "and the circle again. And here's the"}, {"start": "00:31:23", "end": "00:31:28", "text": "cross and the crown. And we'll go that"}, {"start": "00:31:25", "end": "00:31:30", "text": "in Holy Bible. And the G again for God,"}, {"start": "00:31:28", "end": "00:31:32", "text": "which is actually geometry. But this is"}, {"start": "00:31:30", "end": "00:31:34", "text": "the triangle and the circle. Okay? It's"}, {"start": "00:31:32", "end": "00:31:37", "text": "because of the triangle and the circle"}, {"start": "00:31:34", "end": "00:31:40", "text": "here. And it has to do with God. It's a"}, {"start": "00:31:37", "end": "00:31:43", "text": "symbol of God. It's used in Freemasonry."}, {"start": "00:31:40", "end": "00:31:46", "text": "It's uh again, we'll go through here's"}, {"start": "00:31:43", "end": "00:31:49", "text": "the Bible, Star of David. And up here at"}, {"start": "00:31:46", "end": "00:31:50", "text": "the top, oh, and here it is. But over"}, {"start": "00:31:49", "end": "00:31:52", "text": "here on the bottom, it's called the"}, {"start": "00:31:50", "end": "00:31:54", "text": "Royal Arch. You may have heard of that"}, {"start": "00:31:52", "end": "00:31:57", "text": "in Freemasonry, the Royal Royal Arch"}, {"start": "00:31:54", "end": "00:32:00", "text": "degree. And there it is again. And here"}, {"start": "00:31:57", "end": "00:32:03", "text": "you'll see it in used in churches. The"}, {"start": "00:32:00", "end": "00:32:06", "text": "uh school of theology, Claremont. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:32:03", "end": "00:32:07", "text": "you see it right there. Using churches"}, {"start": "00:32:06", "end": "00:32:09", "text": "cuz Claremont School of Theology, a"}, {"start": "00:32:07", "end": "00:32:12", "text": "Masonic College. It's it's organized and"}, {"start": "00:32:09", "end": "00:32:15", "text": "directed by a secret society in Europe."}, {"start": "00:32:12", "end": "00:32:17", "text": "Yeah. And uh but people don't realize"}, {"start": "00:32:15", "end": "00:32:19", "text": "that because it's a holy it's a church"}, {"start": "00:32:17", "end": "00:32:21", "text": "that's custom. There's nothing holy"}, {"start": "00:32:19", "end": "00:32:23", "text": "about it. This is a very powerful secret"}, {"start": "00:32:21", "end": "00:32:25", "text": "society is operating throughout the"}, {"start": "00:32:23", "end": "00:32:27", "text": "world behind our government and behind"}, {"start": "00:32:25", "end": "00:32:29", "text": "governments throughout the world. And"}, {"start": "00:32:27", "end": "00:32:30", "text": "they have tied themselves in and set up"}, {"start": "00:32:29", "end": "00:32:32", "text": "what they call a religious"}, {"start": "00:32:30", "end": "00:32:34", "text": "establishment. And the religious"}, {"start": "00:32:32", "end": "00:32:37", "text": "establishment is nothing more than a"}, {"start": "00:32:34", "end": "00:32:39", "text": "frontman for a very powerful secret"}, {"start": "00:32:37", "end": "00:32:40", "text": "society operating in the world. So they"}, {"start": "00:32:39", "end": "00:32:42", "text": "may look holy, but you better do your"}, {"start": "00:32:40", "end": "00:32:44", "text": "homework. There's more to religion than"}, {"start": "00:32:42", "end": "00:32:46", "text": "meets the eye. Here's the king and queen"}, {"start": "00:32:44", "end": "00:32:48", "text": "of England with the triangle and the"}, {"start": "00:32:46", "end": "00:32:50", "text": "circle above them. And incidentally, uh"}, {"start": "00:32:48", "end": "00:32:53", "text": "this is a whole different subject of the"}, {"start": "00:32:50", "end": "00:32:55", "text": "British royalty. The reason why we call"}, {"start": "00:32:53", "end": "00:32:58", "text": "them the royal family comes from Egypt."}, {"start": "00:32:55", "end": "00:33:00", "text": "Osiris, Isis, and Horus. Well, the"}, {"start": "00:32:58", "end": "00:33:02", "text": "original trinity in Egypt that was"}, {"start": "00:33:00", "end": "00:33:04", "text": "referred to in Egypt as the holy family,"}, {"start": "00:33:02", "end": "00:33:06", "text": "the royal family. That's where they get"}, {"start": "00:33:04", "end": "00:33:09", "text": "the royal family because of the triangle"}, {"start": "00:33:06", "end": "00:33:11", "text": "of the py pyramid of Egypt with God's"}, {"start": "00:33:09", "end": "00:33:13", "text": "son Horus rising."}, {"start": "00:33:11", "end": "00:33:16", "text": "And so there's nothing holy about these"}, {"start": "00:33:13", "end": "00:33:19", "text": "people at all. Okay. And uh when the"}, {"start": "00:33:16", "end": "00:33:22", "text": "king of England interesting when the"}, {"start": "00:33:19", "end": "00:33:24", "text": "king of England becomes king, the"}, {"start": "00:33:22", "end": "00:33:27", "text": "archbishop Canterbury, we have our"}, {"start": "00:33:24", "end": "00:33:29", "text": "religious I don't even know who it is,"}, {"start": "00:33:27", "end": "00:33:32", "text": "but uh but when the king of is crowned"}, {"start": "00:33:29", "end": "00:33:34", "text": "king, listen to what the archbishop of"}, {"start": "00:33:32", "end": "00:33:37", "text": "Canterbury has the king say in his"}, {"start": "00:33:34", "end": "00:33:39", "text": "inaugural uh in his inauguration"}, {"start": "00:33:37", "end": "00:33:41", "text": "ceremony."}, {"start": "00:33:39", "end": "00:33:42", "text": "Prince Charles if he becomes king"}, {"start": "00:33:41", "end": "00:33:45", "text": "incidentally he won't but if he king"}, {"start": "00:33:42", "end": "00:33:49", "text": "would say upon taking the throne uh the"}, {"start": "00:33:45", "end": "00:33:53", "text": "archbishop says you are now being"}, {"start": "00:33:49", "end": "00:33:55", "text": "crowned king of England for Jesus Christ"}, {"start": "00:33:53", "end": "00:33:58", "text": "you are sitting on the throne of David"}, {"start": "00:33:55", "end": "00:34:01", "text": "for Jehovah the God of the old testament"}, {"start": "00:33:58", "end": "00:34:04", "text": "you are in fact Messiah waiting for or"}, {"start": "00:34:01", "end": "00:34:06", "text": "Shiloh who is waiting for the Messiah to"}, {"start": "00:34:04", "end": "00:34:09", "text": "come back so you are going to rule God's"}, {"start": "00:34:06", "end": "00:34:12", "text": "kingdom until Jesus Christ comes back."}, {"start": "00:34:09", "end": "00:34:14", "text": "That's what the king is told in his"}, {"start": "00:34:12", "end": "00:34:16", "text": "initiation writes. The king of England"}, {"start": "00:34:14", "end": "00:34:19", "text": "sits on the throne of the God of the Old"}, {"start": "00:34:16", "end": "00:34:21", "text": "Testament for Jesus Christ. He"}, {"start": "00:34:19", "end": "00:34:23", "text": "represents God's kingdom. And of course,"}, {"start": "00:34:21", "end": "00:34:25", "text": "we understand that God's kingdom is"}, {"start": "00:34:23", "end": "00:34:27", "text": "going to unite the world and some"}, {"start": "00:34:25", "end": "00:34:29", "text": "wonderful paradise condition and"}, {"start": "00:34:27", "end": "00:34:32", "text": "therefore the the England is referred to"}, {"start": "00:34:29", "end": "00:34:35", "text": "as the United Kingdom. So this is a you"}, {"start": "00:34:32", "end": "00:34:37", "text": "know it gets very interesting when you"}, {"start": "00:34:35", "end": "00:34:39", "text": "see where royalty comes from. They"}, {"start": "00:34:37", "end": "00:34:42", "text": "actually there a holy family but the"}, {"start": "00:34:39", "end": "00:34:44", "text": "whole thing is based on Egypt pyramids"}, {"start": "00:34:42", "end": "00:34:47", "text": "triangles."}, {"start": "00:34:44", "end": "00:34:49", "text": "Uh give you an idea. El Salvador has the"}, {"start": "00:34:47", "end": "00:34:52", "text": "triangle and they have the circle and"}, {"start": "00:34:49", "end": "00:34:54", "text": "triangle. Incidentally uh let me go back"}, {"start": "00:34:52", "end": "00:34:56", "text": "here. There's um a little thing I'm"}, {"start": "00:34:54", "end": "00:34:57", "text": "going to have to get into that on my"}, {"start": "00:34:56", "end": "00:34:59", "text": "next one cuz I don't have any slides to"}, {"start": "00:34:57", "end": "00:35:01", "text": "really show you. But there's something"}, {"start": "00:34:59", "end": "00:35:04", "text": "called a friian or frigian cap of"}, {"start": "00:35:01", "end": "00:35:06", "text": "liberty. It's a cap that the old French"}, {"start": "00:35:04", "end": "00:35:08", "text": "Illuminati Freemasons wore when they"}, {"start": "00:35:06", "end": "00:35:10", "text": "overthrew the French monarchy and the"}, {"start": "00:35:08", "end": "00:35:12", "text": "French Revolution. You'll read about in"}, {"start": "00:35:10", "end": "00:35:15", "text": "school the French Revolution. Those guys"}, {"start": "00:35:12", "end": "00:35:17", "text": "who actually overthrew the French"}, {"start": "00:35:15", "end": "00:35:19", "text": "government and the French Revolution,"}, {"start": "00:35:17", "end": "00:35:22", "text": "they all wore a little cap. It was like"}, {"start": "00:35:19", "end": "00:35:24", "text": "a stocking cap, a red stocking cap. And"}, {"start": "00:35:22", "end": "00:35:26", "text": "that was a symbol of something called"}, {"start": "00:35:24", "end": "00:35:29", "text": "the Pian Cap of Liberty. It goes back to"}, {"start": "00:35:26", "end": "00:35:33", "text": "the ancient Roman societies in ancient"}, {"start": "00:35:29", "end": "00:35:34", "text": "Rome. And um I I'm not going to get into"}, {"start": "00:35:33", "end": "00:35:36", "text": "it because it's a very interesting"}, {"start": "00:35:34", "end": "00:35:39", "text": "subject on this Fijian cap of liberty"}, {"start": "00:35:36", "end": "00:35:40", "text": "and many times and what it means. But"}, {"start": "00:35:39", "end": "00:35:42", "text": "the point I'm making here is that the"}, {"start": "00:35:40", "end": "00:35:45", "text": "triangle is within the circle even in"}, {"start": "00:35:42", "end": "00:35:48", "text": "Nicaragua and uh wait a minute I'm"}, {"start": "00:35:45", "end": "00:35:49", "text": "missing something here. Nicaragua and El"}, {"start": "00:35:48", "end": "00:35:50", "text": "Salvador, right? And this is the two"}, {"start": "00:35:49", "end": "00:35:53", "text": "incidentally two countries we have a lot"}, {"start": "00:35:50", "end": "00:35:56", "text": "of trouble with in war down in Central"}, {"start": "00:35:53", "end": "00:35:58", "text": "America because of this symbol here."}, {"start": "00:35:56", "end": "00:36:00", "text": "That's what is causing the war is this"}, {"start": "00:35:58", "end": "00:36:03", "text": "symbol in the middle. was called a"}, {"start": "00:36:00", "end": "00:36:05", "text": "friian or fijian cap of liberty. Um,"}, {"start": "00:36:03", "end": "00:36:07", "text": "just shows you how the triangle and the"}, {"start": "00:36:05", "end": "00:36:09", "text": "circle is used. Here's another symbol in"}, {"start": "00:36:07", "end": "00:36:11", "text": "Freemasonry. On the Bible, you'll see"}, {"start": "00:36:09", "end": "00:36:13", "text": "cross and the crown. Uh, the cross and"}, {"start": "00:36:11", "end": "00:36:15", "text": "the crown of course is the Jesus within"}, {"start": "00:36:13", "end": "00:36:17", "text": "the crown of salvation or whatever. And"}, {"start": "00:36:15", "end": "00:36:18", "text": "if you go back to Freemasonry again,"}, {"start": "00:36:17", "end": "00:36:21", "text": "you'll see the cross and the crown."}, {"start": "00:36:18", "end": "00:36:23", "text": "Cross and the crown is actually a chart"}, {"start": "00:36:21", "end": "00:36:25", "text": "of Freemasonry. The Scottish and York"}, {"start": "00:36:23", "end": "00:36:28", "text": "right. We have two rights of Freemasonry"}, {"start": "00:36:25", "end": "00:36:30", "text": "in America. The two most important ones"}, {"start": "00:36:28", "end": "00:36:32", "text": "are the Scottish and York right. The"}, {"start": "00:36:30", "end": "00:36:35", "text": "York right comes from England. York"}, {"start": "00:36:32", "end": "00:36:37", "text": "England. And uh when they when the York"}, {"start": "00:36:35", "end": "00:36:39", "text": "right came from England and again I'm"}, {"start": "00:36:37", "end": "00:36:40", "text": "saying that this is a shotgun effect."}, {"start": "00:36:39", "end": "00:36:42", "text": "We're aware of some interesting little"}, {"start": "00:36:40", "end": "00:36:45", "text": "connections. We can get into all of this"}, {"start": "00:36:42", "end": "00:36:49", "text": "later but the York right comes out of"}, {"start": "00:36:45", "end": "00:36:52", "text": "York England and the Duke of York"}, {"start": "00:36:49", "end": "00:36:54", "text": "um Prince Andrew is the Duke of York."}, {"start": "00:36:52", "end": "00:36:56", "text": "the the Duke of York, the York right"}, {"start": "00:36:54", "end": "00:36:58", "text": "Freemasons come to America when America"}, {"start": "00:36:56", "end": "00:37:00", "text": "was founded. The first thing they did"}, {"start": "00:36:58", "end": "00:37:03", "text": "when the uh the York right Freemasons"}, {"start": "00:37:00", "end": "00:37:06", "text": "came over and they set up what they call"}, {"start": "00:37:03", "end": "00:37:08", "text": "New York and New York is the empire"}, {"start": "00:37:06", "end": "00:37:09", "text": "state. That's why we have an Empire"}, {"start": "00:37:08", "end": "00:37:12", "text": "State Building. New York is the empire"}, {"start": "00:37:09", "end": "00:37:15", "text": "state because it's the new state of the"}, {"start": "00:37:12", "end": "00:37:19", "text": "empire of the new world. It's the new"}, {"start": "00:37:15", "end": "00:37:21", "text": "world's empire state and the empire"}, {"start": "00:37:19", "end": "00:37:23", "text": "strikes back. we get into George Lucas,"}, {"start": "00:37:21", "end": "00:37:24", "text": "Steven Spielberg with their Empire"}, {"start": "00:37:23", "end": "00:37:27", "text": "Strikes Back and all of that kind of"}, {"start": "00:37:24", "end": "00:37:30", "text": "stuff because there's symbolism in these"}, {"start": "00:37:27", "end": "00:37:32", "text": "uh Indiana Jones and all that, you know,"}, {"start": "00:37:30", "end": "00:37:34", "text": "Star Wars stuff. But anyway, here's a"}, {"start": "00:37:32", "end": "00:37:36", "text": "Scottish right. They have 33 degrees."}, {"start": "00:37:34", "end": "00:37:38", "text": "That's really have degrees of first,"}, {"start": "00:37:36", "end": "00:37:40", "text": "second, and third degree. That at the"}, {"start": "00:37:38", "end": "00:37:41", "text": "third degree, that's why incidentally"}, {"start": "00:37:40", "end": "00:37:43", "text": "when you're when you're in court or or"}, {"start": "00:37:41", "end": "00:37:46", "text": "the cops pick you up, they give you the"}, {"start": "00:37:43", "end": "00:37:48", "text": "third degree, right? reason because we"}, {"start": "00:37:46", "end": "00:37:50", "text": "may because the department is a masonic."}, {"start": "00:37:48", "end": "00:37:51", "text": "They wear the Masonic symbols of power"}, {"start": "00:37:50", "end": "00:37:53", "text": "on their arm. Incidentally, that's why"}, {"start": "00:37:51", "end": "00:37:56", "text": "they call the armed forces because they"}, {"start": "00:37:53", "end": "00:37:58", "text": "use their arm to beat your brains out."}, {"start": "00:37:56", "end": "00:38:00", "text": "And here's the uh three layers of"}, {"start": "00:37:58", "end": "00:38:01", "text": "Freemasonry, first, second, and third"}, {"start": "00:38:00", "end": "00:38:03", "text": "degree. They're giving you the third"}, {"start": "00:38:01", "end": "00:38:06", "text": "degree. Then once you become a third"}, {"start": "00:38:03", "end": "00:38:08", "text": "mason, you can either Scottish right or"}, {"start": "00:38:06", "end": "00:38:10", "text": "you can go into the York right. The"}, {"start": "00:38:08", "end": "00:38:11", "text": "Scottish right is referred to as the"}, {"start": "00:38:10", "end": "00:38:14", "text": "Egyptian right. everything that they"}, {"start": "00:38:11", "end": "00:38:16", "text": "teach and believe is based on Egypt or"}, {"start": "00:38:14", "end": "00:38:17", "text": "you go into the York right and"}, {"start": "00:38:16", "end": "00:38:19", "text": "everything they they teach and believe"}, {"start": "00:38:17", "end": "00:38:22", "text": "is based on the old York order which is"}, {"start": "00:38:19", "end": "00:38:24", "text": "supposedly called Christian right so at"}, {"start": "00:38:22", "end": "00:38:26", "text": "the uh here again you have royal"}, {"start": "00:38:24", "end": "00:38:28", "text": "archmasons royal arch is very important"}, {"start": "00:38:26", "end": "00:38:30", "text": "with the triangle and the circle and"}, {"start": "00:38:28", "end": "00:38:31", "text": "there's the emblem again with the cross"}, {"start": "00:38:30", "end": "00:38:34", "text": "uh the order of the red cross is one of"}, {"start": "00:38:31", "end": "00:38:35", "text": "them and here's the order of Malta Malta"}, {"start": "00:38:34", "end": "00:38:37", "text": "when you're giving money to the red"}, {"start": "00:38:35", "end": "00:38:39", "text": "cross remember where it's going it's"}, {"start": "00:38:37", "end": "00:38:41", "text": "going to a masonic order and that's why"}, {"start": "00:38:39", "end": "00:38:44", "text": "incidentally red cross can go behind"}, {"start": "00:38:41", "end": "00:38:46", "text": "enemy lines during wartime and negotiate"}, {"start": "00:38:44", "end": "00:38:48", "text": "for prisoners. Why can they go behind"}, {"start": "00:38:46", "end": "00:38:50", "text": "lines and you can't? Because they are"}, {"start": "00:38:48", "end": "00:38:51", "text": "part of the war. They are part of the"}, {"start": "00:38:50", "end": "00:38:54", "text": "establishment."}, {"start": "00:38:51", "end": "00:38:56", "text": "They operate on both sides. So, we got"}, {"start": "00:38:54", "end": "00:38:58", "text": "Royal Archmasons with the triangle"}, {"start": "00:38:56", "end": "00:39:00", "text": "representing the pyramid within the sun."}, {"start": "00:38:58", "end": "00:39:02", "text": "We got the Red Cross, the Order of"}, {"start": "00:39:00", "end": "00:39:04", "text": "Malta, and that's why Bush went to the"}, {"start": "00:39:02", "end": "00:39:06", "text": "island of Malta. They had this uh"}, {"start": "00:39:04", "end": "00:39:08", "text": "summit. And a summit is the top of a"}, {"start": "00:39:06", "end": "00:39:11", "text": "mountain. And the pyramid is the old"}, {"start": "00:39:08", "end": "00:39:13", "text": "mountain of God. And uh here's the York"}, {"start": "00:39:11", "end": "00:39:14", "text": "right with the order of Knights Templar."}, {"start": "00:39:13", "end": "00:39:18", "text": "Now here is I'm just showing you this so"}, {"start": "00:39:14", "end": "00:39:20", "text": "that uh well"}, {"start": "00:39:18", "end": "00:39:23", "text": "um here is the again is the pilgrimage"}, {"start": "00:39:20", "end": "00:39:25", "text": "to Virginia of the Knights Templars with"}, {"start": "00:39:23", "end": "00:39:28", "text": "the with the cross and the crown and the"}, {"start": "00:39:25", "end": "00:39:30", "text": "star with the Masonic handshake. That's"}, {"start": "00:39:28", "end": "00:39:32", "text": "the uh ninth templar masonic order. And"}, {"start": "00:39:30", "end": "00:39:35", "text": "here it is on the Society of Jehovah's"}, {"start": "00:39:32", "end": "00:39:36", "text": "Witnesses. So a lot of people, poor"}, {"start": "00:39:35", "end": "00:39:38", "text": "Jehovah's Witnesses, they have no in the"}, {"start": "00:39:36", "end": "00:39:40", "text": "world that the man that founded their"}, {"start": "00:39:38", "end": "00:39:42", "text": "order, Charles Taz Russell, was in fact"}, {"start": "00:39:40", "end": "00:39:44", "text": "a Yorkright Freemason, he was financed"}, {"start": "00:39:42", "end": "00:39:46", "text": "out of London, England by Lord Philippi"}, {"start": "00:39:44", "end": "00:39:48", "text": "de Rothschild. His money came from"}, {"start": "00:39:46", "end": "00:39:51", "text": "England to found an order called British"}, {"start": "00:39:48", "end": "00:39:55", "text": "Israel Freemasonry. He is nothing more"}, {"start": "00:39:51", "end": "00:39:57", "text": "than a primasonic conspirator to help"}, {"start": "00:39:55", "end": "00:39:59", "text": "the masters in England take over our"}, {"start": "00:39:57", "end": "00:40:01", "text": "banking system and our government and"}, {"start": "00:39:59", "end": "00:40:02", "text": "have every everybody prepared to crawl"}, {"start": "00:40:01", "end": "00:40:04", "text": "on their knees and wait for God's"}, {"start": "00:40:02", "end": "00:40:08", "text": "kingdom and Jehovah's going to come to"}, {"start": "00:40:04", "end": "00:40:08", "text": "save you. Don't bet on it."}]

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I"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "think you said you've been married for"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "33 years."}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:31", "text": ">> Yes. In a country where divorce is the"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "commonality, what would you say the"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "secret to a successful marriage is?"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:37", "text": ">> I mean, luck, destiny, providence plays"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "a huge role. You, you know, you're not"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "the author of your success or entirely"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "of your failures. I would say also,"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "there's a lot that happens in life that"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "is not the product of choices that you"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "made. Free will is overrated. I'm"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "becoming more Calvinist by the day. Just"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "watch it. You know, does the 5-year-old"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "get leukemia because she did something"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "wrong? Like no a lot of thing you spent"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "a lot of your life in war people you"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "know who died did they deserve you know"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "what I mean it's like you don't things"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "happen that are not for good and bad"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "that are not sort of up to you and so a"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "lot of having a happy marriage is just"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "marrying someone with whom you're"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "compatible and you change I met my wife"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "in 1984 and it's a completely different"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "country and we're different people but"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "we're different in the same way who's"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "respons you know who did that I didn't"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "really I hear people say oh marriages so"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "hard I've never had a hard time. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "I've always enjoyed it. There are hard"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "times. You got a lot of little kids."}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "You've got little kids. It's like pretty"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "hard. But I was I've always been happy"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "to be married to her and more happy as"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "the years go by. But to the extent that"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "you can control these things, like pick"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "the right person. Do not marry a"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "stripper. They're all crazy. I'm sure"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "some are nice. I've known some who are"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "nice. I'm serious. But they're damaged."}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "Try to marry a girl who likes her dad. I"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "think that's important. Or who did like"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "her dad when she was little."}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:55", "text": ">> Why do you think that's important? I've"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "never heard anybody say that"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:00", "text": ">> because I've noticed it. I've noticed"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "it. I've noticed it a lot in up close. I"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "mean, this is not I'm not guessing."}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "Like, I could be completely wrong. This"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "is just an observation of mine, but"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "girls who like their dad's or who like"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "their, you know, everyone's disappointed"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "by his dad or her dad in later life."}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "Like, you learn that your dad's human"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "and holy [ __ ] I can't believe he's"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "human. I thought he was God. So, there's"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "no that's natural. But, you know, when"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "you're eight, if you're deeply"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "disappointed in your dad, especially as"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "a girl,"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:26", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:28", "text": ">> that leaves a mark. And I've known women"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "who had terrible relationships with"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "their fathers who were wonderful people"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "and well balanced people, but it's it's"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "harder for sure. And if a girl has a"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "completely contentious relationship with"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "her father and has been betrayed by him"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "and the family abandoned by him,"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "you know, that can really have an"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "effect. Whereas a woman who, you know,"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "grew up really loving her dad and"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "feeling secure in his leadership as a"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "dad and his love as a dad,"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "that girl is more secure and less jumpy"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "and she's not, you know, thinking that"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "every argument is going to lead to"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "divorce. The thing about damage in"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "childhood is it's hard to sort of let go"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "of those patterns. And products of"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "divorce, like me, for example, it takes"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "a while to realize that like, you know,"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "you have a disagreement, that's okay."}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "It's not the end of the world. you're"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "not going to like get divorced, you"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "know?"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:16", "text": ">> So that's I think that's important."}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "Second, like just resolve not to get"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "divorced. I do think that's important."}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "I'm not a particularly virtuous person"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "at all actually, but I did when I got"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "married, I had been I lived through a"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "divorce as a child. I was like, I'm not"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "doing that. Like period. My wife came"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "from a stable family and she was like"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "divorce like what? That was not even a"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "thing."}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "But I resolved like I'm not doing that."}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "And so that I think is helpful to decide"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "here are the boundaries. Like whatever"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "we're doing, we're not splitting up. But"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "I would say the main thing is spending"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "time with your wife when your kids are"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "little, which is really hard. It's so"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "hard. And you love your kids. And so"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "it's very tempting or it's natural"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "actually to divert your attention from"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "your spouse to your children cuz they're"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "your children. And and that's natural"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "and you should do that. But it's also"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "very easy indeed. It's the natural"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "course."}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:11", "text": ">> But I've known my wife for longer than"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "that. I've known her for 52 years."}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:14", "text": ">> 52 years?"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:14", "text": ">> Yeah. We met when we were eight."}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:16", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:18", "text": ">> We were childhood friends."}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:21", "text": ">> That's incredible."}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:23", "text": ">> What would you say the secret to a"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "successful marriage is?"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:28", "text": ">> Well, being like insanely attracted to"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "your partner is helpful."}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:36", "text": ">> You know, that's helpful. What else?"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "More practically speaking, she's honest."}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "like we swore when we decided to get"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "married that we tell each other the"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "truth and uh you know that's a"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "vow that has"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "expanding benefits as as your life"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "progresses."}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "It's very useful to be able to trust"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "your partner. It makes your life a lot"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "simpler like a lot simpler. Plus, you"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "sort things out if you tell each other"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "the truth. It means that there's"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "conflict when it's necessary. But"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "there's no difference between conflict"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "when it's necessary and thinking."}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "They're the same thing. And so people"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "who avoid conflict avoid thinking. And"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "that's not a good idea. You know, you"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "have to think when things are difficult."}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:20", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:21", "text": ">> Well, of course there's going to be"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "conflict. You're going to have conflict"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "around how you discipline your children,"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "for example, cuz it's hard to figure out"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "how to do it. You're going to have"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "conflict around your finances. So, you"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "have to sort it out. There's lots of"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "options. And so this is one of the"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "things people don't understand about"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "thought. It's like should speech be"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "offensive? Well, only if you want to"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "talk about things that are difficult,"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "why would you talk about things that are"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "difficult then? Well, cuz life's"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "difficult. Might as well sort it out"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "instead of running headlong into a wall"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "or off a cliff."}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:56", "text": ">> What do you think the key to a"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "successful marriage is?"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "I definitely think it's using your most"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "generous lens on your partner, trying to"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "interpret all behaviors through the lens"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "of he loves me and I love him."}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "Um, that helps with so many things. And"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "I also think it's important to say the"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "thing that you don't want to say. Not to"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "be intentionally hurtful, but"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "we don't really have a lot of conflict"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "now, but when I was on Fox in the prime"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "time and Doug was doing more than his"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "fair share of everything going on with"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "the young kids, he was never like a"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "stay-at-home dad. He always had stuff"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "going on, but he just he had a job that"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "allowed him to be at home more, and so"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "he necessarily was doing more."}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "He never got resentful really of me,"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "actually. He was always very supportive."}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "He's just a cool guy. But I got"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "resentful of him."}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:44", "text": ">> Really?"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:45", "text": ">> Yeah. I was like, I don't like that the"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "kids go to your side of the bed in the"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "middle of the night."}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "I don't like that you've shown them all"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "these movies that, you know, I'm not"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "around to see. Now you have your own"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "little language with them about the fun"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "things you've done. You know, I I don't"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "like when I'm having a one-on-one"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "conversation with them and you come in"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "and join. I I need my own one-on-one"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "time with them. Get out. you know, and I"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "didn't really want to say those all"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "those things make me feel even to this"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "moment like a very petty person, you"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "know, like here's this guy, he's doing"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "all this great stuff. Most women would"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "kill to have a more active partner. I"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "had a different kind of problem. And I"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "didn't really give a [ __ ] if it made me"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "feel small. I needed to say it. We had"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "to clear the air. And Doug always made"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "me feel better about those things."}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "Always, you know. And then when I"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "finally"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "writed my life and got more balance in"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "to where I could be a more active"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "mother, I realized"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "it it's not so thrilling to have them"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "come over in the middle of the night and"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "wake you up. It was I didn't know how"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "good I had it."}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:51", "text": ">> What is the secret to a successful"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "marriage?"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:54", "text": ">> Um, some of you listeners are like, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "come on. Don't say this.\" I'm like,"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "\"It's not cliche.\" It's true. It's true."}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "If you can if you can pull off loving"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "Jesus more than your spouse, you got a"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "chance. Almost all marriages are fail in"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "divorce or you end up living together as"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "glorified roommates. That fire goes out."}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "So, you got to do a few things."}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "I'm excited to introduce to you the"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "newest member of my family. We call him"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "Stanley. We got Stanley this past"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "Christmas and pretty quickly my focus"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "became making sure he was safe while"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "still giving him the freedom to actually"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "be a dog. I went looking for the top"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "rated GPS fence, the number one, and"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "that's how I found SpotOn. Stanley wears"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "their Nova Collar. With Spoton, I set up"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "a GPS fence for Stanley right on my"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "phone. No physical fence, no leash. I"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "just walk my property line or draw it on"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "the map and that's the boundary the"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "collar recognizes. I can create multiple"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "fences, save them, and adjust them"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "whenever I need to. So whether we're at"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "home or traveling, Stanley always knows"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "where his boundaries are. 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The Nova Collar"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "uses a dualband GPS system connected to"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "more than 150 satellites along with an"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "antenna that's over five times larger"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "than typical GPS fence collars that"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "keeps the boundary accurate even around"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "trees, terrain, and changing conditions."}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "Spot-On's True Location technology has"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "been independently tested and delivers"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "99.3%"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "containment, which matters when you're"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "trusting something with your dog safety."}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "It's incredibly durable, and on top of"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "that, I can check his location in real"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "time, send voice commands directly to"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "the collar, and track his activity"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "through the day. I use SpotOn so Stanley"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "gets the freedom to run and explore and"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "I get the peace of mind knowing he's"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "safe. Let your dog roam with Spoton. Go"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "to spot-onfence.com/srs"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "and use code SRS for $50 off the Nova"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "Collar. That's spot-on.com/srs"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "and use code SRS for $50 off."}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "One is tap into the source where love"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "actually comes from that's Jesus. Uh it"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "also allows you to have a reference"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "point. So both of you as you grow closer"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "to Jesus according to a biblical model"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "you are getting closer to each other as"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "you move toward that similar point."}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "Otherwise you hey you're not the same"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "dude that you were 10 years ago. Do you"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "have any chance that you're going to be"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "the same dude you are now in 10 years?"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:53", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:55", "text": ">> No. you're going to be different and and"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "you don't know exactly what that's going"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "to look like. And then you could say the"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "exact same thing about your spouse. And"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "though y'all may be near and close on in"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "this point of your journey, at this"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "point in time you're near, in 10 years,"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "your future self and her future self may"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "be worlds apart, irreconcilably."}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "What is the guarantee you're actually"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "going to grow together over time just"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "because you share a house? Well, good"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "luck. That's just not how it works. Too"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "much data proves that that is not to the"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "um is just not a true statement of like"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "oh time and proximity means that we are"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "ideologically growing closer. It's just"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "not true. People change. Uh this allows"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "an anchor point a reference point and it"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "it provides a basis uh a standard which"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "can uh be our foundation and our dispute"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "resolution center. So neither one of us"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "are the ultimate authority. Scripture is"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "period. All ties broken right there. You"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "mean like all controversial ties,"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:03", "text": ">> not familial."}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:06", "text": ">> And so uh you know, love Jesus. Then you"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "got to date your wife. Uh never never"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "stop pursuing her. This is something"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "big. I was just listening to uh Mark"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "Driscoll um on uh Instagram who hates us"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "all. Uh, and he said, \"Hey, date your"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "wife or someone else will.\" Like, whoa,"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "that's savage. But it's true, man. Hey,"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "uh, once you get married, that's not the"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "finish line. That's the starting line."}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "And whatever you did uh to get her to"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "marry you in the first place, keep doing"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "that, and you will uh be able to walk"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "hand in hand and happily ever after into"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "marriage. My marriage,"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "man, it's good. It's strong. It's fun."}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "It's vibrant. It's romantic. It's"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "passionate. It's working. And so,"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "somebody can castigate me all they want"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "uh regarding some of the foundational"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "things that I've just said regarding"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "faith, but what you can't deny is it's"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "working."}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "Maybe I'm a [ __ ] but it's working. So,"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "it must not be so dumb after all. How's"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "your marriage?"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:11", "text": ">> Great point. And so I'm like,"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:12", "text": ">> if it works, then maybe, just maybe, you"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "should remove the chip from your"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "shoulder and lean in and think that"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "there might be something that I'm on to"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "here because most marriages are not"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "working. And mine is growing stronger"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "over time, not weaker. Uh, or becoming"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "more in love, not more embittered. And"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "that is extremely rare. And it's taken a"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "lot of effort because our first two"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "years was not good."}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:36", "text": ">> What's the recipe for a successful"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "marriage? M"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "one"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "uh marry the right person."}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "Two, learn to forgive a lot."}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "And three,"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "uh be intentional and grow in your love."}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "And I think a lot of I think a a lot I"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "mean in essence our human nature we're"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "all selfish and marriage proves that and"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "then children help accentuate that"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "um you know and and I I just think"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "if if people invest and are intentional"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "in their marriage"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "and learning to work beyond what they"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "feel. And I'll tell you a little secret."}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "I've never said this. Here's a little"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "secret that I do over the years. When I"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "just"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "am not standing my wife, I'm like, she"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "aggravates me. I make myself think about"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "what's true and good and what I love"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "about her."}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "And I It's a mental discipline to go,"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "okay, yeah. uh right now. Uh"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "but what do I love about her? What? Not"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "not her current"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "stat, but right what I love what and I"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "just start thinking about all the good"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "things. All the good things. And guess"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "what? It changes your mind."}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "And um and then you know it's it's easy"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "to forgive when when you know you've"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "been forgiven too."}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "Thank you for sharing that. Thank you"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "for sharing that. There's a lot of"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "there's a lot of broken homes out there"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "and I think there's more divorce than"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "successful marriages at this point in"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "time. And so,"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:38", "text": ">> you know, that's"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:40", "text": ">> that's important advice. No matter where"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "you're watching the Shawn Ryan Show"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "from, if you get anything out of this at"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "all, anything, please like, comment, and"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "subscribe. And most importantly, share"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "this everywhere you possibly can. 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What else"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "did you Let's start with number one, the"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "gap."}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:33", "text": ">> Yeah, let's talk about that one."}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "So,"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "I think when people think of"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "sex, they think, \"Oh, just find a"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "partner.\" Especially Gen Z's because I"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "teach Gen Z's in college, right?"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "The most pressing issue for Gen Z guys"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "is just finding a partner. It's not, you"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "know, sexual communication. So, whenever"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "I teach these things, it's like, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "just get me a girl first."}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "I can't even find a girl. I don't have"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "RZ, Dr. Tara.\" Have you heard of RZ?"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:07", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:08", "text": ">> Oh. Um, it's Gen Z for charisma."}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:10", "text": ">> Oh, okay."}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:12", "text": ">> Or like being able to like get a girl."}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:15", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. No, I don't have RZ, Dr."}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "Tara. get me a girl first before you"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "even teach me sexual communication. Who"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "do I talk to? So, not their most"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "pressing issue. The most pressing issue"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "for them is not finding a partner. But"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "then the misguided belief that a lot of"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "people have is having a partner solves"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "all issues"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:35", "text": ">> when it comes to relationships. When in"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "fact, you know this by now, you know,"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "being in a relationship for so long that"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "communication is the most important"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "thing in a relationship. Whatever issues"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "you have, communication is going to be"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "the tool that solves those issues, those"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "problems. So,"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "you know, when I find that"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "a lot of people are unhappy with their"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "sex and by the way, like you know,"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "onethird is conservative. I think it's"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "more, but due to when people take"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "surveys, you know, they have"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:11", "text": ">> biases and desiraability purposes,"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "right? Like they don't answer the truth."}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "truth."}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:15", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:16", "text": ">> I think it's more I think it's more than"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "one/3."}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:20", "text": ">> I mean, it doesn't surprise me. You just"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "mentioned that that you thought that 50%"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "of people are not having sex."}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:24", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:27", "text": ">> In in relationships."}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:28", "text": ">> Yeah. In long-term relationships. I"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "think it's more than onethird. But yeah,"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "onethird of Americans that were a part"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "of my study were not happy with the"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "current sex life that they have. And"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "to me as a professional in this field,"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "it's not mind-blowing to hear. It's"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "actually quite common. It's affirming if"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "anything of my professional observation,"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:54", "text": ">> man."}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:56", "text": ">> Whenever I tell people that don't work"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "in this field, they go, \"Oh my god, how"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "do how do these people live? Like what"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "is their life like? What is their"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "relationship like?\" Said, \"You just get"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "through it. You get through it like you"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "get through anything. You just you wake"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "up, you eat your breakfast, you go to"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "work, you come back, you have dinner,"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "watch some TV, and you go to bed."}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:15", "text": ">> What?"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "But that that has to be unhealthy."}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "You're I mean, we're talking about"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "people you you at first you mentioned"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "people that hadn't had sex in over two"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "years, adults."}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:24", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:26", "text": ">> I mean,"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "what are they doing? Are they are are"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "they are they having affairs? Are they"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "they have porn addictions? What? What?"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "What?"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "How do they release?"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:39", "text": ">> When I say they haven't had sex, it"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "doesn't mean they haven't had"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "masturbation."}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "So, people self-pleasure all the time."}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "They just don't have sex with each other"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "cuz"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:51", "text": ">> would they rather self-pleasure than"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "have sex with each other?"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:58", "text": ">> A lot of people would say that. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "Yeah. If I have to guess, a lot of"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "people listening and watching have this"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "experience where, yeah, I just don't"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "want to bother anymore. I have initiated"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "so many times, got rejected so many"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "times. I don't bother anymore. I just go"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "jerk off."}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "I think that's a lot more common than"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "anyone would think. And people might"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "feel ashamed that that's happening to"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "them and their marriage, but what they"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "don't know is other people do it, too."}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:26", "text": ">> That is really common."}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "And"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "when you think about people who say, you"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "know,"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "I just don't bother anymore. I'll just"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "do it myself. You know, same result,"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "right? I just want to orgasm. I just"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "want to come. Like, same result. But"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "it's not the same."}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:48", "text": ">> Not the same."}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:52", "text": ">> Not the same. Because what's missing is"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "human connection. That sexual connection"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "with your partner is the distinguishing"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "difference between a friendship,"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "roommate friendship and a romantic"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "relationship. Apart from asexual people"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "in which you know a lot of times they"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "get left out of this conversation but"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "it's only about 1% of population. Um"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "most people want to feel sexually"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "satisfied, fulfilled and connected with"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "their partner. They want to be able to,"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "you know, um, hug each other, kiss each"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "other, and feel like there is this"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "strong bond and connection."}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "When they don't have it and they think"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "it's fine, whatever, we can coexist and"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "do life together. What happens to them"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "is not only it affects their relational"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "health, right? The relationship is it's"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "dry, right? Mhm."}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:51", "text": ">> It affects their emotional health, their"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "mental health, their physical health."}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "Because what we know is sex is healthy"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "for you. Sex is healthy for your for"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "your physical health, right? For your"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "heart health, for your pelvic health,"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "for your um prostate, um hormones, all"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "those things. It's good for your mental"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "health because it's a connection with a"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "human being. And you need that"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "especially in the world where we're so"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "distant from each other through social"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "media, the internet, and spending a lot"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "of time at home watching TV. Um, and"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "then your emotional health. What a lot"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "of people don't think about, emotional"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "health is extremely important. Being"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "able to express different emotions and"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "talk about different emotions very"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "important. Feeling safe that you can"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "express these emotions in a"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "relationship. It's very important in a"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "relationship. It very important for your"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "sex life as well. A lot of women that I"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "talk to will say, \"I'm too afraid to"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "bring it up.\" And men as well. They'll"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "say, \"I'm too afraid to bring it up.\""}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "The fact that you're afraid to bring it"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "up, shows me that there is a gap in that"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "relationship, that you don't fully trust"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "that your partner has your well-being"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "at the top of their priority. You don't"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "trust that you can be who you truly are"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "and express how you truly feel. If you"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "can't do that with the single most"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "important person in your life,"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "you're going to struggle."}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:29", "text": ">> Yeah. No kidding."}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:31", "text": ">> You should be able to express pretty"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "much anything, especially when it's a"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "concern. You should be able to express"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "anything to your partner. If you can't,"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "and I know a lot of people will have a"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "light bulb moment right now. If you"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "can't,"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "there is something deeper. So sex, not"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "having sex, sexless marriage is a"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "symptom of something deeper."}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "It's not just about sex. Sex is never"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "just about sex. Sex is about everything"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "else."}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:04", "text": ">> What could those deeper things be?"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "It could be"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "one of the hardest things to accept,"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "lack of attraction. I have zero desire"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "for this person. Like, how would you say"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "that to your husband or wife?"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:20", "text": ">> Uh, that's one of them. Another one is"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "lose respect. People don't even respect"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "their partner anymore. Mhm."}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:26", "text": ">> You know, whether they let themselves go"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "physically, whether they, you know, lost"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "their job and never tried to get another"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "job or whether they they used to have"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "ambition and no longer have ambition."}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "Maybe they used to have a lot of friends"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "that they can cultivate relationships"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "with and now they're just alone in"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "their, you know, dungeon watching porn."}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "Respect is a huge thing. And if you"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "don't respect your partner, you don't"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "want to [ __ ] them."}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:51", "text": ">> You know what I mean? Respect is a huge"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "thing. Uh attractiveness is a huge"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "thing. Um trust is a is a huge thing."}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "When someone say they will do something"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "and they don't do it, you lose trust"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "slowly."}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "When someone you know nags at you or"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "give you a negative comment about who"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "you are, you get these paper cuts."}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "And the more of these you have, the less"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "likely you're going to want to have sex"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "with that person."}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "So yeah, there's a lot of deeper issues"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "than just like, \"Oh, they haven't had"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "sex. Go have sex. Here's a sex toy."}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "Here's lingerie.\""}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "It's way more."}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:32", "text": ">> How do you get people to communicate?"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "Let's just bring up lo What do you think"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "the most common is? Is it loss of"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "attraction?"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:40", "text": ">> I think loss of attraction."}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:41", "text": ">> How do you communicate to somebody? How"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "do you teach somebody to communicate to"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "somebody that"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:48", "text": ">> you know that that they're no longer"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "attracted to their partner? And I I I"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:52", "text": ">> I see this a lot when somebody maybe"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "both people in the relationship just"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "completely let themselves go. Whether"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "that's like what you had mentioned,"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "whether that's, you know, that's their"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "internal drive, you know, their"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "occupation. Uh what I see a lot is"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "physical appearance. You know, get"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "married, we have a kid, we're"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "comfortable."}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "Both people get fat."}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:16", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "Comfortable. That's That's a killer word"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "right there."}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:22", "text": ">> You should never be too comfortable."}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:25", "text": ">> Mhm. No matter where you're watching the"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "Shawn Ryan Show from, if you get"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "anything out of this at all, anything,"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "please like, comment, and subscribe. And"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "most importantly, share this everywhere"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "you possibly can. And if you're feeling"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "extra generous, head to Apple Podcast"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "and Spotify and leave us a review."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "You think they knew it was going to"}, {"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "happen?"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:05", "text": ">> I think we could make a strong argument"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "that somebody did know."}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:09", "text": ">> How so?"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:12", "text": ">> Earth was blasted around 12,900"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "years ago by a multi-impact event."}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "Ancient peoples all over the world were"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "such obsessive sky watchers. Every year"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "on June 30th, Earth crosses this stream"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "of cosmic debris and then on the next"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "circuit around, boom."}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:27", "text": ">> Gotcha."}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:30", "text": ">> Direct hit."}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:33", "text": ">> Do you think about that? how humanity"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "may have survived or sought refuge."}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:35", "text": ">> Well, you want to turn back to"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "mythology?"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:40", "text": ">> Yeah, let's do it. Let's do it."}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:42", "text": ">> If we were faced with something like if"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "we can go back to"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "now what's almost certainly a a real"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:48", "text": ">> strictly mythology."}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:48", "text": ">> Okay. So, here we got mythology."}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:51", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:56", "text": ">> And here we have scientific evidence"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "that Earth was blasted around 12,900"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "years ago by a multi-impact event. Okay."}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:05", "text": ">> A smaller version of what happened to"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "Jupiter. Okay. Now,"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "people, we've been around, modern humans"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "have been around for probably a couple"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "hundred thousand years. So, the event"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "that happened, it's called the Younger"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "Dus. Younger Dus was a uh initially it"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "was a a an extreme climate event that"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "was uh documented in Europe. Well, since"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "then we've learned all kinds of"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "interesting things. One is that the the"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "mass extinction of the great megapana"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "that lived during the ice age. There"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "was, you know, over 100 species of"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "megapaa that did not survive the end of"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "the ice age, right? I mean, when was the"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "last time you saw a woolly mammoth rose"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "roaming around the forest of Tennessee?"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:49", "text": ">> It's been a minute."}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:52", "text": ">> It's been a minute. But 12,000 13,000"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "years ago, you had several species of"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "elephants living here in Tennessee."}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:58", "text": ">> Interesting. You don't think about"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "elephant, you think elephants, you think"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "Africa, India, but you don't think North"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "America, North An elephant is a"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "probacidian, meaning it has a long"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "snout, a long nose."}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "Up until the end of the last ice age,"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "there were four species of probacidians"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "living in North America."}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "Think about that. They're all gone now."}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "What happened to them? Well, there's"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "different theories. 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And hunters that"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "are willing that are capable of taking"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "down a mammoth?"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:09", "text": ">> It's 25% or less."}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:10", "text": ">> What?"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:13", "text": ">> 25% or less."}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:15", "text": ">> That's probably about right. Yeah. So,"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "what does that leave? couple of million"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "people were able to exterminate every"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "mammoth on Earth in less than a thousand"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "years."}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "No way. No. And then when we look at the"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "circumstances under which we find those"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "mammoths and other extinct animals,"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "that's not, you know, I mean, we find"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "them frozen in perafrost."}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:40", "text": ">> So it was, so nobody really sought"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "refuge. It was just luck of the draw"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "where you were on the"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:46", "text": ">> Well, now you get down to a really"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "interesting question. I think that the"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "plausible scenario might be that you had"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "survivors of two types."}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "Those who survived by the luck of the"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "draw and those who survived because they"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "they knew it was h going to happen. They"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "planned for it. They prepared for it."}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "And"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:08", "text": ">> you think they knew it was going to"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "happen? I think I think we could make a"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "strong argument that people there"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "somebody did know."}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:15", "text": ">> How so? How would they have known?"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:19", "text": ">> Well, see this is where we now get into"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "why ancient peoples all over the world"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "were such obsessive sky watchers"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "and how did the how did astronomers were"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "able to predict"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "this impact on Jupiter a year in"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "advance. 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And typically, one of the"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "things that would happen is that"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "impacts, you know, right now we could"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "think of Earth, we could think of"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "Jupiter, and there are streams of stuff"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "traveling between the two, almost like"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "cosmic pingpong or something. Right."}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "right now. Every year on June 30th,"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "and two times, right around late"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "October, early November, late June,"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "early July,"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "Earth crosses this stream of cosmic"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "debris that's called the torid meteor"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "shower. The peak of that, now it takes"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "to fully cross the stream takes a couple"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "of weeks, right?"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "But"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "the Tangusa object. Okay. Now, okay. If"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "this is where if I come back, we can"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "look at some really cool graphics."}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:48", "text": ">> Pull them up."}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:49", "text": ">> Well, if you'd like."}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:50", "text": ">> I don't know if I've got that open, but"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "when we do the break, I'll I'll pull"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "some stuff up. Okay. Um, picture this."}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "You've got this stream of debris coming"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "in from Jupiter, coming around the sun,"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "and going back out to Jupiter. The whole"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "stream takes between three and four"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "years to make an orbit around like this."}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "Right now, here comes the Earth. It"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "crosses the stream twice, right? Once in"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "late October, early November. When it"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "crosses at that time of year, it's"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "crossing in such a way that"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "if you were to look up the stream,"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "you'd be looking out into space. You'd"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "be, in fact, you'd be looking towards"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "the constellation of Taurus."}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "That's where it gets its name, the Torid"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "meteor shower after the constellation of"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "the bull. Now, that stream comes in,"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "comes around the sun. Now, if Earth is"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "crossing there in the late in in late"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "June, early July, and you're looking up"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "the stream as these things are"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "approaching, you're looking almost"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "directly towards the sun. 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I mean that was how the pressure"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "wave that went out from that. Right."}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "So um"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "what I'm leaning towards is the idea"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "that you had people who were"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "watching the skies and predicting this"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "and one of the reasons now again showing"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "graphics would be to explain this it"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "would be much easier but when you look"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "at and make these predictions of like"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "when they made that prediction"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "back in 93 that this thing was going to"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "hit Jupiter they use things they use a"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "set of uh information called commentary"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "elements or the orbital elements right"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "and what they need to know is"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "I'm excited to introduce to you the"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "newest member of my family we call him"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "Stanley we got Stanley this past"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "Christmas and pretty quickly my focus"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "became making sure he was safe while"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "still giving him the freedom to actually"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "be a dog I went looking for the top"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "rated GPS GPS fence, the number one. And"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "that's how I found Spot-on. Stanley"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "wears their Nova collar. With Spoton, I"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "set up a GPS fence for Stanley right on"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "my phone. No physical fence, no leash. I"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "just walk my property line or draw it on"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "the map, and that's the boundary the"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "collar recognizes. I can create multiple"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "fences, save them, and adjust them"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "whenever I need to. So whether we're at"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "home or traveling, Stanley always knows"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "where his boundaries are. Another thing"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "that stood out to me is these collars"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "are designed right here in the USA and"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "assembled in New Hampshire by a team"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "that's been working with high precision"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "GPS technology for years. And you can"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "tell a lot of attention went into making"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "this thing reliable. The Nova Collar"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "uses a dualband GPS system connected to"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "more than 150 satellites along with an"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "antenna that's over five times larger"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "than typical GPS fence collars that"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "keeps the boundary accurate even around"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "trees, terrain, and changing conditions."}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "Spot-On's True Location technology has"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "been independently tested and delivers"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "99.3%"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "containment, which matters when you're"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "trusting something with your dog safety."}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "It's incredibly durable, and on top of"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "that, I can check his location in real"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "time, send voice commands directly to"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "the collar, and track his activity"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "through the day. I use SpotOn so Stanley"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "gets the freedom to run and explore and"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "I get the peace of mind knowing he's"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "safe. Let your dog roam with Spoton. Go"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "to spot-onfence.com/srs"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "and use code SRS for $50 off the Nova"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "Collar. That's spot-on.com/srs"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "and use code SRS for $50 off."}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "the the shape of the the orbit, its tilt"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "relative to Earth's orbital plane, and"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "several other things, right?"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "Well, the things that modern astronomers"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "used to count the tools they use, the"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "conceptual tools they use to make that"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "prediction are all the things that you"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "can identify by using the ancient"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "standing stone circles and"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "observatories. I think all these things"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "all over the planet were observatories."}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "by which they were able to calculate"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "cosmic motion to a high degree of"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "precision. And if you saw an object"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "circling,"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "you know, in that orbit and just like"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "with the the the uh Shoemaker Levy 9,"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "that thing had been circling Earth and"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "and Jupiter, but nobody had seen it,"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "right? It had been doing it how probably"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "dozens of times and nobody had seen it."}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "But what happened is that every time it"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "went out to Jupiter, Jupiter's gravity"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "was sucking it in a little closer, a"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "little closer, a little closer until"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "finally it got so close it passed within"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "that ro limit, ripped it apart, and then"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "on the next circuit around, boom."}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:52", "text": ">> Gotcha."}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:55", "text": ">> Direct hit."}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:56", "text": ">> Gotcha. Now,"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "maybe there were ancient people with"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "enough sophistication to see things in"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "the sky multiple orbital periods before"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "impact."}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:07", "text": ">> Very interesting."}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:09", "text": ">> Uh-huh."}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:11", "text": ">> No matter where you're watching the"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "Shawn Ryan Show from, if you get"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "anything out of this at all, anything,"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "please like, comment, and subscribe. And"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "most importantly, share this everywhere"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "you possibly can. And if you're feeling"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "extra generous, head to Apple Podcast"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "and Spotify and leave us a review."}]

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Gen Z is the"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "loneliest generation in recorded history"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "and also having the least sex. Your"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "research says communication is the"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "number one predictor of sexual"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "satisfaction. Is the birth rate crisis"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "really a communication crisis in"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "disguise?"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:40", "text": ">> Yeah, I think so. Uh, you know, an"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "interesting statistic that I read about"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "Gen Z's,"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "well, adults age from 18 to 29, was that"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "in the past their weekly social time,"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "like in person, hang out with friends in"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "person, used to be 12 hours and now it's"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "5."}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:02", "text": ">> Are you serious?"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:04", "text": ">> Mhm. Yeah. So, if you're not seeing"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "people in real life, you probably are"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "not dating or participating in, you"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "know, mainstream dating culture or"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "having sex or talking about sex. So,"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "yeah, like let alone sexual"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "communication. You're not even spending"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "time with anybody. If social time goes"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "from 12 hours to 5 hours a week,"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:24", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:25", "text": ">> then there isn't really a lot of"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "opportunity."}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:28", "text": ">> What is What is the modern dating scene"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "these days?"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:31", "text": ">> Dating apps. Is it really? Although the"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "majority of it"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:36", "text": ">> there are a couple of studies now"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "identifying that Gen Z's are also sick"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "of dating apps"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:40", "text": ">> or sick of dating apps,"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:44", "text": ">> right? Yeah. Just because they grew up"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "with it. Um but dating apps still one of"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "the most prominent ways of meeting a"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "partner and for people that are getting"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "married like they have met at least like"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "half the people have met their partners"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "online."}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:58", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:59", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. very prominent way of"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "meeting a partner."}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:03", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:06", "text": ">> Um, but for Gen Z's, you know, they can"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "be on dating apps, but they're they're"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "not socializing that much. Um, they're"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "also not having sex that much. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "statistically, and there's a couple"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "different surveys you can site, uh, but"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "I think all would agree that about"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "um,"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "one in four Gen Z's are not having sex."}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "So one in four people or that's what 25%"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:34", "text": ">> one in four I have here 80% of Gen Z"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "feels lonely versus 45% of boomers."}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "75% of Gen Z"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:41", "text": ">> is burnt out on dating apps. Tinder lost"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "590"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "basically 6,000 600,000 users."}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:52", "text": ">> Bumble lost 370,000"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "users. Hinge lost 130,000 users in the"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "2023 2024 time period."}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:03:00", "text": ">> Oh, that makes sense to me."}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "It's"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "It's an unusual way to meet people,"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "isn't it? You have to go through"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "hundreds of faces."}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:13", "text": ">> Dating apps."}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:14", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:15", "text": ">> Have you done it?"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:16", "text": ">> Have Yeah. Have you ever been on a"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "dating app?"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:20", "text": ">> I've been on a dating app. Yeah. Was it"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:20", "text": ">> a long time ago?"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:22", "text": ">> What's that?"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:24", "text": ">> Was it exhausting?"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:27", "text": ">> I didn't put much effort into it."}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:30", "text": ">> Yeah. If you do, it's exhausting. Like,"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "you know, it is a good way to meet"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "people if you're so busy. If you work,"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "you know, from morning till evening and"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "then have dinner and then you don't have"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "time to go out and like meet new people"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "in real life. It's a good way to meet"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "people because then you meet them"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "online. And you can kind of tell if you"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "like each other physically and then you"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "message to meet them in person. But the"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "problem is a lot of people don't even"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "meet anyone in person. There"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:59", "text": ">> I didn't I barely met anybody. The It"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "was That's a lot of pressure."}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:01", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:05", "text": ">> And then the ones that I did meet it was"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "like that was 75 lbs ago. That photo was"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "75 lbs ago. This This isn't"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:13", "text": ">> So, there's research that shows um that"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "women lie the most about their weight"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "and men lie the most about their height."}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:17", "text": ">> Oh, really?"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:18", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:22", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:26", "text": ">> Yeah. So, yeah, that exists. Catfishing"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "exists. You show up, you're like, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "you don't look anything like your"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "photos.\""}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "It's a disappointment. Like it's such a"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "bad thing to do because"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "do you think when they see you in person"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "they will go, \"Oh, I like you.\""}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "Regardless because they know you,"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:46", "text": ">> you can't they they can't trust you."}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:49", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:51", "text": ">> If you start off a relationship with,"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "\"Oh, I can't trust this person because"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "they lied about what they look like.\""}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "That you started at like a negative, not"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "even at a zero."}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:01", "text": ">> Yeah. So that's terrible. But I I get it"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "when people say they're exhausted about"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "dating apps because humans we were"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "historically"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "when when was a time where we were"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "exposed to thousands and thousands of"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "people every week"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "back in the days our ancestors"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "never"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:21", "text": ">> never"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:22", "text": ">> we were in little tribes right just even"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "evolutionarily"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "we our way back ancestors we were in"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "tribes we only knew like 100 people max"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:33", "text": ">> and we don't even know all of them but"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "we live in a little tribe and we all"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "take care of each other and that's like"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "all the people we know and now you swipe"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "from people in Australia"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "in Germany in Japan and"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:50", "text": ">> I think it's really hard on a person's"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "mental load to go through dating apps"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "and still be engaged and feel positive"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "about it. I think that's why a lot of"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "drop offs like a lot of Gen Z's are not"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "participating but then where do they"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "meet because they also don't hang out"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "socialize in person if you only"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "socialize 5 hours a week. Uh so that is"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "a big puzzle that a lot of people are"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "talking about but there isn't"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "necessarily"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "one big cure like obviously it's getting"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "off your phones."}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:24", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:28", "text": ">> Right. spending more time with people,"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "teaching Gen Z's um relational"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "maintenance strategies,"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "uh friendship initiation strategies, how"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "do you like talk to people, ask them"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "out, not even romantically, just"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "spending time with other people,"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "teaching social skills, uh communication"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "skills, and how to foster friendships."}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "There are so many things we can talk"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "about with this issue,"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:54", "text": ">> man. If they're not learning that, then"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "the then the generation after them is"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "going to be"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "even worse."}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:02", "text": ">> Yeah. Your kids or Gen Alpha, it's"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "completely different. These are iPad"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "kids cuz the Gen Z's are not iPad kids."}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "They're the Zoom schools. So the Gen"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "Z's, they went to Zoom school"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "during the most important years of"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "social development"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:18", "text": ">> because of co"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:23", "text": ">> co."}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "So these kids went to school alone, just"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "watch other people on a screen, uh stay"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "at home alone, do their homework alone."}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "They didn't have socialization for quite"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "a few years of their major developmental"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "years. And then now they're in college"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "and a lot of colleges now offer just"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "Zoom, just online classes because that's"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "how they that's the modality that"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "they're used to. and how they like to go"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "to school. Like I know this because I"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "teach some online classes and those are"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "always full cuz my students want to take"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "online classes. They don't want to go to"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "campus."}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "So you have Zoom school generation"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "not hanging out in person that much, not"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "participating in dating and sex that"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "much."}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "What's going to happen?"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:19", "text": ">> What do you tell these kids? I mean, if"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "if 80% of the generation is lonely,"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "I mean, how do you tell them you got to"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "get out there? Go to go to a bar. Go to"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "like go to a club."}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:28", "text": ">> You only have too much social anxiety to"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "go to a bar."}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:31", "text": ">> Holy [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:33", "text": ">> Mhm. There's a lot of social anxiety."}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "It's also a heavily medicated"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "generation."}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "Um, very common for people to say like,"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "you know, like, oh, I'm on this, this,"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "and this."}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "And that has"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "people have different thoughts about"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "that."}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:51", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:54", "text": ">> What are your thoughts on western"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "medicine and medicating people?"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:58", "text": ">> Oh, I think it's unraveling at a record"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "pace right now."}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:03", "text": ">> Mhm. Mhm."}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:04", "text": ">> I think we're we are overmedicated."}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:07", "text": ">> I think we are too. I'm trying to walk"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "the line of not shaming people that"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "actually need it versus talking about"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "how some people don't need it. But they"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "think they do."}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:17", "text": ">> Because pharmaceuticals tell you."}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:19", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:21", "text": ">> Yeah. Because there are people that"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "actually have these internal problems"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "and they need medication in order to"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "function uh in a"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "society. But then there are people that"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "just like oh I'm just I'm so anxious."}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "Like I need this"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "or I don't think I can focus like I"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "can't study. I need to take this. Right?"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "like taking aderal to study is like very"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "common."}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:45", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:47", "text": ">> Um"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "yeah, I grew up differently because I"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "grew up in Asia."}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "We didn't believe in medication, you"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "know, we were like boiling leaves and"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "drinking things and my mom giving me"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "like goji berries to see better or"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "things like that and meditation instead"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "of uh medication for ADHD. Right. When I"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "was young, I was all over the place."}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "lots of energy. I was sent to meditation"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "camp almost every summer."}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:20", "text": ">> Meditation camp gave me concentration."}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "Yeah. Junior medit meditation camp"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:25", "text": ">> where you meditate hours in a day like"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "different sessions, different teachers"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:28", "text": ">> and they force you to meditate."}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:30", "text": ">> Do you still meditate?"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:31", "text": ">> Yeah, I meditate every day and pray"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "every day as well."}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:36", "text": ">> How long?"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:37", "text": ">> Meditating 5 minutes. Pray for 5"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "minutes."}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:39", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:43", "text": ">> Yeah. Um,"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "but you know the way I grew up is you if"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "you have ADHD, you meditate"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "until you learn how to concentrate and"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "be in your own flow. And then now I can"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "concentrate."}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:59", "text": ">> But I think here"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "you like slap a band-aid on a problem,"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "right? No one has time to teach their"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "kids to meditate or stay still or be"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "okay with being bored and stay still."}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "They just say, \"Oh, okay.\" Like, \"Take"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "this. Take Adderal so that you can"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "focus."}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:16", "text": ">> You're not wrong.\""}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:18", "text": ">> Or take a Xanax so you can chill. You're"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "too anxious, take this. You can't sleep,"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "take this. Um, you're nervous to go on a"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "date, take this. You can't get it up,"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "take this."}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "Your vagina doesn't get wet, take this."}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "We have a pharmaceutical society."}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:36", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:38", "text": ">> Yeah. Some things I think we do need,"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "but a lot of things we don't. And so"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "that's a part of the problem of Gen Z as"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "well is it's heavily medicated and it's"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "almost um celebrated. Like it's fun to"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "talk about."}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:51", "text": ">> Oh man."}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:52", "text": ">> And I've seen that in my students. Um, I"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "still personally, I'm going to be"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "honest, haven't found a way to talk"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "about it in a way that doesn't help make"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "them feel ashamed because I also don't"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "want to say like you don't need that."}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "Like, you know,"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "cuz it's tough between the line of"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "whether they need it or not. You know,"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "I'm not their medical doctor. I haven't"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "read their tests."}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:14", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:14", "text": ">> But my guess is a lot of them don't need"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "it."}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:18", "text": ">> Yep. I'll beg her right. And all of"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "those things combined also affect the"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "way they can date and have sex. Cuz when"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "you're on SSRI,"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "you don't have sexual desire."}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "Have you heard of that correlation?"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:32", "text": ">> I did not know that."}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:34", "text": ">> Yeah. And a lot of adults that are not"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "Gen Z's, like millennials, Gen X, baby"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "boomers are on SSRI and they're"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "wondering why they have low sex drive."}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "Um, there is a correlation between low"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "sex drive and taking SSRI. So you have"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "to go through that as well as Gen Z's"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "like you know you would think"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:56", "text": ">> you're 21 man like go out talk to people"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "like talk to girls date have sex jerk"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "off right you would think these things"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "because that's how we grew up as you"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "know older millennials or Gen X but no"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "like can't do that if you're on a bunch"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "of medications you don't even get an"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "erection or you don't even have like the"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "desire to"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:15", "text": ">> no matter where you're watching the"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "Shawn Ryan show from. 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And I"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "didn't hear anything else after that."}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "And that woman, Angela, that little"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "girl, 14 years old, she saved me."}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "Sometimes you can do everything right"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "and still fail. And I'm listening to all"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "of this kind of unfold."}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "And then about 9:00 a.m. all of a sudden"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "I start hearing um you know the"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "difference between an RPK and a 240"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "Bravo is pretty distinct on the rate of"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "fire. I start hearing uh you know a huge"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "you know troops in contact start you"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "know developing over in Matt's position."}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "And these are kilometers away right? I'm"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "seeing green tracers pop up. I'm hearing"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "radio chatter. Um, I'm listening to Matt"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "plead with the aircraft to try to bring"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "them back on station and watching this"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "situation start to devolve"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "and I'm stuck in this dilemma because"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "this is around 9:00 a.m. We had all of"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "our air check off stations so that we"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "could have air with plenty of fuel when"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "you know with plenty of with a lot of"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "reserve fuel when we began the air"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "assault itself. So we had no air"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "coverage during this time frame and the"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "Taliban recognized their moment. And so"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "what we understand is, you know, we"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "don't really know, but what we estimate"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "was 40 to 50 Taliban fighters um"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "enveloped Matt's team and um and"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "ambushed him. And they were, you know,"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "two positions that were separated by,"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "you know, 500 meters apart, mutually"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "supporting, and they ran towards Matt's"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "team, specifically where he was at. And"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "I remember listening to Matt plead over"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "the radio, trying to slew centurers,"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "trying to bring aviation assets back all"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "while this is kind of going on. And I"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "had a choice to make"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "because I was listening to my best"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "friend who was decisively engaged by a"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "larger enemy force. And you understand"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "this, right? As a as a SEAL team, you"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "can only handle so many people, right?"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "Our job isn't necessarily to on a"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "greenside mission isn't to get in"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "gunfights, right? Our job is to be able"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "to bring other assets. If you bring too"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "many people, I can't fight that back."}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "And so what we estimate was 40 to 50"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "fighters, you know, enveloped Matt's"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "team and uh his specific fiveman element"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "that he had, you know, put out as as a"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "leader recon. And I and I listened to"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "him fight and I listened to the comms"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "and I was watching the rockets or"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "hearing the rockets explode, you know,"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "as they're fighting through this"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "process. and I faced a choice and the"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "the choice I had was break down my"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "position and try to get to Matt or hold"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "my position because my role was staying"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "in position when the air assault start"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "started and I needed to be there for the"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "infantry marines."}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "So the thing about recon and the reason"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "why recon has stayed working for marine"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "combatant commanders is our loyalty is"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "always to the riflemen is always to the"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "0311. Our job is to live, sleep, eat,"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "breathe and potentially die for the"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "0311. They matter. They're our reason."}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "And so I was faced with this dilemma."}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "Run to save my friend or potentially"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "save my friend or stay in position for"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "this mission. And as I'm going through"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "this, I'm having this conversation. I'm"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "having this moral dilemma. I have two"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "CH53s rocketing in over my right"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "shoulder as the air assault begins. And"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "so what happens is as this thing starts"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "to unfold, the assault begins on the"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "town in front of us. And we're trying to"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "do our best to support the young"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "infantry marines while this is going on"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "while my left ear is listening to Matt"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "and his and his situation."}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "So eventually I I stopped hearing uh"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "Matt's voice and the last things I heard"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "was Scarface, our Hueies. As they came"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "in, as our 53s came in, the Hueies and"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "Cobras broke off to go support Matt's"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "team and to get as much firepower as"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "possible, as much as firepower possible"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "to Matt's team. And I heard Scarface"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "yelling Bear Shark's name, saying, \"Bear"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "Shark, where are you? Bear Shark,"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "identify, right? We can't see you. We"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "can't engage if we can't see you.\" So"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "all of these people that we've built"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "this relationship with are doing"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "everything they can to be able to help"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "save this team that is now cut off from"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "everybody."}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "And then what happens is we get a call"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "from Kevin Concincaid comes over the"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "radio and I no longer hear Matt's voice"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "which instantly sinks my heart. And then"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "I hear Kevin Concincaid's voice and he"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "comes over the net and I mean in the"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "middle of a gunfight and is saying we've"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "got two friendly KIA one MIA and we"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "don't know what's happened to you know"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "this this other marine and so every"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "single asset is now trying the infantry"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "has landed at doang the infantry has"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "landed at bar nowad Matt's team is"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "decisively engaged bounty hunter is"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "given direct orders to stay in position"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "and fight for this landing force. And"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "bounty hunter is the sniper platoon."}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "Some of them were my sniper students"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "beforehand. They chose to to defy the"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "direct order and they run the seven"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "kilometers across the mountains to get"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "to Matt's team and they're the first,"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "you know, American forces to help break"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "the contact and they help to try to find"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "and figure out what's going on. every"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "single asset together was one of the"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "proudest moments I had as a Marine"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "because what happens to us is when we"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "hear that call as a Marine that another"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "Marine needs help, we drop everything to"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "be there. Life, limber, eyesight to get"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "there. We had a CAT section that was"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "blown up the night before with us"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "reinsert and come back into the battle"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "position, fighting their way through"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "Barnowed, fighting their way through"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "Dosang, trying to get to to Matt's team."}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "The Harriers come screaming out of the"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "sky after sipping gas and they run"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "across my field of view at like a sonic"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "boom level trying to do anything. The"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "amount of assets they put in to try to"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "save this recon team was was one of the"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "most impressive things I've seen in my"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "career. But my focus was on the infantry"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "marines of my specific mission set. And"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "so for the rest of the day, we sat and"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "had to clear the rest of Barnowad with"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "this with this infantry company. all the"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "while knowing that we had two friendly"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "KIA and one enemy or one friendly"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "missing an action and we didn't know"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "who. And so for the rest of the"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "afternoon and the rest of the evening,"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "we eventually linked up with our um with"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "the other company. We made this really"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "long like arduous movement another 10 or"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "15 kilometers to get to Bar Naad or"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "excuse me to get to do where we linked"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "up with this company. And at that point,"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "the MIA had turned into a KIA. They had"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "found this person's body. So now we knew"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "that three members of our platoon of 18"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "men were dead. We just didn't know who."}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "And so what happened was we get into the"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "the the firm base for the night. The"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "infantry is a good unit, right? They're"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "good marines, but they wouldn't even"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "look us in the eye. They were they they"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "would just they knew that we had lost"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "members of our platoon. And the the the"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "way that they looked at us was, you"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "know, sad, was like pity, was was guilt,"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "was feeling. And we stood in the middle"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "of this like mud hut kind of farming"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "town in the middle of nowhere on a dot"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "on a map that no one will ever remember,"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "right? is my assistant team leader Joe"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "Galuli. My platoon sergeant Ephraim"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "Martinez and I go to the radio the"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "company radio that has you know higher"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "power radio and we have to go and have"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "to ask who what the line numbers are."}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "We're going to go find out who the"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "Marines uh you know that were killed."}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "And"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "Matt was always meant to be an infantry"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "marine. Some people are just meant to be"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "Marines. So, we have, you know, line"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "numbers or kill numbers or ZAP numbers,"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "whatever it is. And it always started"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "with the last the first letter of their"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "last name and then the last four digits"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "of their social security number is what"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "we used at the time. We don't use that"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "anymore, but Matt's last four digits of"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "his social security number were 0311."}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "And so, the infantry, the MOS designated"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "for infantry riflemen. And so, we always"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "joke that he was meant to be a grunt."}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "And I remember standing there asking for"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "the the numbers and my platoon sergeant"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "and my assistant team leader Joe, we had"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "our arms around each other. We kind of"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "took a knee and we were going to find"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "out this information together. And I"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "remember the first night, the first line"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "number coming over and it was India"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "0311."}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "And I didn't hear anything else after"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "that. My ears"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "started ringing, you know, I felt like"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "the stomach, you know, fell out."}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "didn't know what to do at that point."}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "And then"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "I realized that I had to go tell my"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "team. So the rest of my team is standing"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "in this courtyard in the middle of"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "winter in the middle of Afghanistan, you"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "know, full of cow [ __ ] and dung and"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "whatever it is, and they're standing"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "there and they're waiting. These guys"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "were on their first deployment. They had"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "never experienced this before. And so I"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "realized my role as a team leader was"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "now to teach them how to grieve. And so"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "I came to the team and I um and I told"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "them the names of the Marines that had"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "passed. And it was Staff Sergeant Matt"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "Ingram was killed. Um uh Corporal Jamie"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "Lowe and Corporal Nicholas Yuzinski. And"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "the three Marines were some of the"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "brightest spots in our platoon and the"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "some of the best Marines that we had"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "inside of the platoon itself. and it"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "just ripped my young guys apart and they"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "just didn't know what to do with"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "themselves."}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "I'm excited to introduce to you the"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "newest member of my family. We call him"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "Stanley. We got Stanley this past"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "Christmas and pretty quickly my focus"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "became making sure he was safe while"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "still giving him the freedom to actually"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "be a dog. I went looking for the top"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "rated GPS fence, the number one, and"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "that's how I found SpotOn. Stanley,"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "wears their Nova collar. With Spoton, I"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "set up a GPS fence for Stanley right on"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "my phone. No physical fence, no leash. I"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "just walk my property line or draw it on"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "the map, and that's the boundary the"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "collar recognizes. I can create multiple"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "fences, save them, and adjust them"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "whenever I need to. So whether we're at"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "home or traveling, Stanley always knows"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "where his boundaries are. Another thing"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "that stood out to me is these collars"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "are designed right here in the USA and"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "assembled in New Hampshire by a team"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "that's been working with high precision"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "GPS technology for years. And you can"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "tell a lot of attention went into making"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "this thing reliable. The Nova Collar"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "uses a dualband GPS system connected to"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "more than 150 satellites along with an"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "antenna that's over five times larger"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "than typical GPS fence collars that"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "keeps the boundary accurate even around"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "trees, terrain, and changing conditions."}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "Spot-on's True Location technology has"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "been independently tested and delivers"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "99.3%"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "containment, which matters when you're"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "trusting something with your dog safety."}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "It's incredibly durable, and on top of"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "that, I can check his location in real"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "time, send voice commands directly to"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "the collar, and track his activity"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "through the day. I use Spoton so Stanley"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "gets the freedom to run and explore and"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "I get the peace of mind knowing he's"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "safe. Let your dog roam with Spot-On. Go"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "to spot-onfence.com/srs"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "and use code SRS for $50 off the Nova"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "Collar. That's spot-on.com/srs"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "and use code SRS for $50 off."}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "I got back to Camp Leatherneck and part"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "of the things that they have at Camp"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "Leatherneck and I don't know if you guys"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "have seen it, we had these things called"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "any marine boxes or any soldier boxes,"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "whatever it was. And people would send"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "care packages or they would send letters"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "and oftent times school children would"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "send letters um to you know any Marine."}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "They were addressed just any marine and"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "they would be in a box and so we had a"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "random box that was you know outside of"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "one of our tents that we were back at"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "camp leather the neck where the rest of"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "the company was at and I you know guys"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "would reach in every once in a while and"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "they'd grab a card or they'd grab a"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "letter and they would steal a moment"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "away and they would read it and it was"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "some cute kid somewhere that was writing"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "something um you know about uh you know"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "just saying thank you or whatever it is."}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "So, I went and I reached into one of"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "those boxes and I grabbed a letter. And"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "if you don't mind, I'll read a portion"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "of the letter to you."}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "It says,"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "\"To whomever gets this letter, hi, my"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "name is Angela and I'm 14 years old and"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "I live in Sunnyale, California. That's"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "the Bay Area. Lots of people don't know"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "that. I'm writing this letter to you at"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "exactly 10:48 p.m. because I found"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "myself lying in bed remembering what my"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "teacher had told me the day before. You"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "see, our class made a poster for the"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "troops, especially for this one guy that"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "graduated from my high school. We wrote"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "things on there like thanks and good"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "job."}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "Yesterday, my teacher told us that the"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "Fremont graduate, that's my school,"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "Fremont High, had lost his best friend"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "in the war. But what she told us next"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "really hit home for me. She told us how"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "much joy the poster brought to the"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "troops. She told us how every morning"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "the friend would just look at the poster"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "and that poster would bring a smile to"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "his face. It turns out he did this right"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "up until the day he died. That's when I"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "started crying. I never realized how"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "powerful the words of a freshman in high"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "school could be. So I decided to get up"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "and write this letter to you while my"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "thoughts were fresh in my mind. Now I"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "know this isn't some fantastic poster,"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "but the intent is the same. After"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "hearing what my teacher told me, I hoped"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "I could touch some of the troops or at"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "least brighten their day. So, that's"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "what I'm doing in this letter. And I"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "hope you hear these words that I'm about"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "to say a lot. But thank you. Thank you"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "for being so brave that you can stand up"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "and fight for our country. Thank you for"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "being so brave and selfless that you let"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "your lives and loved ones, you leave"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "your lives and loved ones to fight for a"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "people you don't even know. The bottom"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "line is thank you for all that you do"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "because every time you have to do"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "something like stay up all night or look"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "out and witness death and destruction,"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "you are protecting and saving me."}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "This little girl,"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "Angela,"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "wrote an anonymous letter that sent out"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "to Afghanistan and somehow ended up in"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "an anonymous box that I grabbed on the"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "way in to a random tent in Iraq. And she"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "wrote me a letter. She wrote an"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "anonymous letter about me and I carried"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "this letter with me for the rest of the"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "deployment."}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "We went into Maria and we fought in"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "Maria a few months later in February"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "which was considered Afghanistan's fall."}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "We lost more Marines in Maria and killed"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "more people. Fought through everything"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "we could and everything I did through"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "that I kept this in my flack jacket the"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "entire time because I think for me what"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "it was was that it's a simple gesture."}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "It's a young kid, you know, who doesn't"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "understand what it is that we do or why"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "we do what it is that we do. And that"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "little piece of home, that little piece"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "of of of what she had done, what she had"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "written was the thing that solidified"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "why we join, who we fight for, the red,"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "white, and blue, these people back home."}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "And that woman,"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "Angela, that little girl, 14 years old,"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "she saved me. She saved me. And when,"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "you know, I used to think that after"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "Matt died, like I said, I was broken."}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "But"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "I lived for Matt for a long time because"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "I wanted to live as good of a life as I"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "could in honor, in remembrance of the"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "dead. The Marines have a slogan that was"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "from World War I and it says, \"For the"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "honor of the fallen, for the glory of"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "the dead.\" And that's a tattoo I have"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "across my collar. It's what the Marines"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "would yell before they would leave the"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "trenches in World War I to fight. and"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "you know start another you know uh"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "another another attack."}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "And then what I did was I realized as I"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "moved through later in my career and I"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "fought issues of um substance abuse, you"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "know, earlier in my career or potential"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "suicidal ideations or whatever it was,"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "harmful thoughts, those kind of things."}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "I realized that I was no longer living"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "for Matt. What I realized was that I was"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "living for Angela because that little"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "girl and her hope and her determination"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "and what she felt in that was something"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "so powerful. You know, I told you"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "initially that I wrote the book"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "Darkhorse because it was a love letter"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "to tell the Marines and the people that"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "I served with along the way, thank you"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "for bringing me to where I'm at,"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "bringing me to this position because I"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "didn't do it alone. this 14-year-old"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "girl has the thing that gave me, you"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "know, permission to continue living and"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "permission to find a good life. And I"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "got a chance, you know, many, many years"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "ago after I got back from that"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "deployment, I got a chance to visit"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "Angela and have a conversation with her."}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "And I've since lost contact with her,"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "but if she's ever out there, I want her"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "to know. And I wrote that as part of the"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "thing, and it's in the book as well. And"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "I want her to know how much she meant to"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "me and what that letter did for me. And"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "it was something that, you know, she"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "goes on to talk about movies and cell"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "phone companies and sleeping with"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "stuffed animals and whatever a"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "14-year-old kid talks about, but that"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "purity, that thing that was was was the"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "reason, I think, why we fought and what"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "really brought me home."}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:25", "text": ">> That's some heavy stuff."}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:27", "text": ">> He's a good kid. He's a good kid."}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:30", "text": ">> I'm sorry."}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:32", "text": ">> Matt was a good Marine. Um, his wife's"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "name was Yasmine. Um, and a fantastic"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "marine. I mean, absolutely represented"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "the best of us. Um, and sometimes, and I"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "know that you've seen it in your career,"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "sometimes you can do everything right"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "and still fail."}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:49", "text": ">> I'm sorry, man."}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "No matter where you're watching the"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "Shawn Ryan Show from, if you get"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "anything out of this at all, anything,"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "please like, comment, and subscribe. And"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "most importantly, share this everywhere"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "you possibly can. 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[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:02", "text": "Where do you start with this?"}, {"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:04", "text": ">> Sean, I said something that day that I"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "would regret for the rest of my life. It"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "haunts me to this day. So, I said, \"Mom,"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "there's no God. There's no God. God"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "would not let you live like this.\" And I"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "got down there, the day the day that I"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "had determined was going to be the day"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "we were going to change my mom's life, I"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "found her dead on the floor. There was a"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "picture that was on the refrigerator"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "that wasn't on there. And it was a"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "picture of me with Proverbs 22:6, \"Train"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "up a child in the way of the Lord, and"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "when he is older, he will not depart"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "from it.\""}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:29", "text": ">> You you got it in your brain though."}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "So, now this this afternoon you review"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "it. You review it again. You review it"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "tonight. You review it tomorrow. Then"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "you got it perfect."}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:40", "text": ">> Kingdom of kingdom of heaven comforted"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "filled"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "mercy"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "see God"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "kingdom of heaven. Is that it? Is that"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "all of them?"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "Did you say inherit the earth?"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:54", "text": ">> inherit the earth That's awesome, man."}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "That's awesome. And that's how memory"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "works."}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "You take what you want to remember and"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "you visualize it around a room. You you"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "see it interacting with that location."}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "It It If if If what's important to you"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "is scripture and your faith, you could"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "map you could have you could have This"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "is called a mind palace. You could map"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "out a mind palace for your faith. If it"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "is you want it to be Oh, look at this."}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "The the the seal tried it. How great is"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "that on this Bible?"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "Um you want to give a business speech?"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "You map out your business speech and you"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "you visualize it around a room. This"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "system was developed, as the legend"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "goes, uh 2,500 years ago by a man named"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "Simonides. The legend's not true, but"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "it's a story that goes back 2,500 years."}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "And"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "Roman orators 2,000 years ago, this is"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "true. Roman orators would use this"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "system to give their speeches on the"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "floor of the Roman Senate. They would"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "take the first thing they want to say"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "and put there. The second thing here."}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "The third thing here. The fourth thing"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "here. Legend has it is that the saying,"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "\"In the first place, in the second"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "place, in the third place,\""}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "it originates from this system. The"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "speakers would say, in the first place,"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "in the second place."}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "Is that true or not? I don't know, but"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "it fits the the system."}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "I do want to memorize scripture. That's"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "That's one thing I'm new at this."}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "Actually, I guess I'm not that new"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "anymore. It's been about 2 years, but"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "we're in the Bible Belt here in"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "Tennessee, and everybody"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "has scripture memorized except me."}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "Right. So So, how do I mean, where do"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "you start? I know I saw on your website"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "you have this this course that you did"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "so a bunch of stuff. What How do you"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "where do you start with this? Is it"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "specific scriptures, or is it you"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "remember it teaches you to memorize"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "whatever you want to memorize? It's"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "whatever you want to memorize. A lot of"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "people um"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "want to memorize scripture word for"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "word. Mhm. A lot of people, which that's"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "the primary desire."}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "There is others, though."}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "So, this is Here's a crazy story."}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "I I lost my faith a little bit. Uh"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "You know, in the 2010 to 2020, that that"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "timeframe."}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "And uh"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "My mom I went up She was very religious"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "lady."}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "And I uh"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "I want to honor her legacy."}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "I don't think she would mind me telling"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "this story. She's passed."}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "She said uh she was a hoarder. And I"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "wanted to help her clean. It was a huge"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "heartache that I had that she lived like"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "that."}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "And one day, and I'm answering your"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "question on scripture memory, believe it"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "or not. Um"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "one day I uh said, okay, this is the"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "day. I'm going to go over there, and I'm"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "going to talk to her about this house."}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "And I showed up, and um she didn't"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "answer the door. And I hadn't been in"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "her house in the last 10 years or in"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "that time frame 10 years I hadn't been"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "in her house four or five times. The"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "stench was overwhelming. It broke my"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "heart. It I could there there was"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "nowhere to sit down. Even if it smells"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "like flowers in there. There was one"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "chair and she slept in that chair. There"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "was nowhere to sit down. Stuff was"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "stacked to the roof."}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "I knocked on the door and she didn't"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "answer."}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "And"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "so I said I got to go in. I opened the"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "door and I walked in the kitchen."}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "She I didn't see her but I saw a possum."}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "A possum sitting on the counter eating a"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "bowl of soup and he was looked at me and"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "was like, \"Come on in, dude. You know, I"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "got this bowl of soup. You want any?\""}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "And [laughter] I was like, \"A possum?\""}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "And I got so mad. The anger just swelled"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "up in my heart. Not at my mom but that"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "she was living like this. And I went in"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "the backyard and I found her. I said,"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "\"Mom, there's a possum in your house.\""}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "And she said, \"No, there's not.\" I said,"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "[laughter] \"Yes, there is.\" She said,"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "\"Show me.\" So we went in the house and I"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "said, \"He was right there.\" She said,"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "\"There No, are you kidding [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "me? I don't I don't believe that.\" I"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "said, \"Mom, I've had I've had it. You're"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "my mom. This breaks my heart. I can't"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "stand this anymore. I'm hiring a"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "professional hoarding crew and we're"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "going to clean your house.\" Well,"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "I was mad though. And Sean, I said"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "something that day that I'll regret for"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "the rest of my life. It haunts me to"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "this day."}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "I wanted to shock my mom cuz she wasn't"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "as mad as I was. She wasn't as"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "heartbroken as I was. But she's a woman"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "of faith."}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "So I said, \"Mom, there's no God. There's"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "no God. God would not let you live like"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "this.\" And I saw the look on her face. I"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "got the reaction but I should not have"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "said it."}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "And she"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "we had a falling out because of that."}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "Not much. My mom loved me. The falling"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "out didn't last but more than a couple"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "hours."}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "But she would text me, \"Ronnie, I'm"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "going to be praying for you to get back"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "to God. Ronnie, I'm I'm praying for you"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "to get your faith back in God. I know"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "you you had it at one point.\""}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "And um"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "I said, \"Mom, I don't care about any of"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "that. I just want your house clean."}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "So, August the 10th, I had a"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "professional hoarding crew. This was"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "just a couple weeks after that. They"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "showed up. They were behind me. I"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "knocked on the door"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "and uh she didn't answer."}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "And I went to the window, looked through"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "the window, and she was on the floor."}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "And I was through that window as fast as"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "I could uh and I got down there the day"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "the day that I had determined was going"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "to be the day we were going to change my"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "mom's life."}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "I found her dead on the floor."}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "And I said, \"Mom, get up. Get up. Get"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "up.\" And um"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "during that day, I looked at her"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "refrigerator. I'd been in the house 2"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "weeks prior."}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "There was a picture that was on the"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "refrigerator that wasn't on there"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "2 weeks prior. It was a picture of me"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "with Proverbs 22:6. Train up a child in"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "the way of the Lord and when he is"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "older, he will not depart from it. I"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "knew the scripture because she had"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "trained me that way. I knew she had been"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "praying for me to get my faith back in"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "God. And after that happened, which was"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "a series of events that was undeniable"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "that I saw, \"Okay, there this"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "Ron, you're not the smartest guy in the"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "world. You haven't figured out there's"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "there's no God. There's some stuff out"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "here that you don't know about.\" So,"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "that's when I started open up the Bible"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "again and that's when I started praying."}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "And uh during that time, I developed a a"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "course called the 1189 Bible Memory"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "Course. There's 1,189 chapters in the"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "Bible. 1189."}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "And I By the way, I've never done the"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "course, but I developed this course um"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "that somebody could say, \"What's in"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "Exodus chapter 20?\" The 10 Commandments."}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "What's in Numbers chapter 9? Following"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "the Israelites"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "uh the Israelites following the cloud of"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "smoke and fire through the desert."}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "So,"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "I did it as a tribute to my mom just to"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "get into the Bible. I created this"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "course. I didn't necessarily memorize"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "it, so I don't necessarily but I just"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "created it for other people. I put it up"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "there on my website and one day I was"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "getting sales on my website. I'm like,"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "\"What in the world is going on?\" People"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "are buying this $11.89 course and I"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "don't even know what's going on. A guy"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "had done it. He had created a mind"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "palace with 1,189 locations and he knows"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "what's in every single chapter of the"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "Bible now and he did some podcast and"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "and Wow. that was my entry into into"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "faith."}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "I really Mind if I tell you what Psalms"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "chapter 1 says about memorizing"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "scripture? Psalms chapter 1 says,"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "\"Blessed is the man who walks not in the"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "counsel of the wicked, nor stands in the"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "way of sinners, nor sits in the seat of"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "the scoffers. But his delight is in the"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "law of the Lord and on his law he"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "meditates day and night. He'll be like a"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "tree planted by streams of water, who in"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "its season yields much fruit and whose"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "leaf does not wither. And whatever he"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "does, he prospers. But not so the"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "wicked, they are like the chaff that the"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "wind blows away. Neither will sinners"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "stand in judgment or the wicked in the"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "assembly of the righteous. For the Lord"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "watches over the way of the righteous,"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "but the way of the wicked it will"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "perish.\" In that scripture, in Psalms"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "chapter 1,"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "right in the middle of it, it says that"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "the person who meditates on scripture"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "will prosper in whatever they do."}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "And it is when Jesus was tempted,"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "he quoted scripture. Writing the word of"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "God on your heart, whatever your faith"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "is,"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "writing whatever is important to your"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "faith on the tablet of your heart. It"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "gives you comfort in times of trouble."}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "When you're talking to someone who is"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "going through a difficult time, maybe"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "you're able to say to them, \"And I know"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "there's AI. I know there's Google. I"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "know there's all that, but there's"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "something different between reading"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "something on Google or AI telling you"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "something and having it written on your"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "heart. Having it written on the tablet"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "to your mind.\" And so I I"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "if you want to memorize scripture,"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "map out a mind palace"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "and visualize the scripture around your"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "home."}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "Roger that."}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "And"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "thank you for sharing that, Ron. Yes,"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "sir."}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "Wow. 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[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "How long did it take you to memorize"}, {"start": "00:00:01", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "that 167 digit number? 5 minutes?"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:07", "text": ">> 5 minutes. Holy [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:10", "text": ">> In memory, the more you can compress the"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "data, the faster you can memorize. So,"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "let's make Mick Jagger the three clubs"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "cuz he you hear his song singing dance"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "clubs, right? You think back to this"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "room. First card gets played. Boom. You"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "attach it on your number one location."}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "You see Eddie"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "shooting up that picture right there."}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "The current record is 19 seconds."}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "19 seconds? I'll transition a little bit"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "to a deck of cards."}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:33", "text": ">> [clears throat]"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:35", "text": ">> Let me tell you the most simple way to"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "memorize a deck of cards."}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "There's a little bit more advanced way."}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "Most simple way is this. You map out a"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "room."}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "Then, you have a picture for every every"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "um"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "card. So, for me, the king of hearts is"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "my mom."}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "Why not the queen of hearts? Because in"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "my memory system, this is the way it"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "worked out. King of hearts is my mom."}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "ace of spades is Drew Carey. Right?"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "Let's let's switch switch Let's switch"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "this to you, not me."}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "Think of somebody"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "that you love"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "a lot."}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "A man, a woman, whoever."}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "And tell me I I I'm not I Who do you Who"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "is it? Tell you? Yeah, I'm not I I I"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "cannot do what that Oz guy did. You know"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "what [laughter] I'm saying?"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:22", "text": ">> Huh? My daughter. Perfect."}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:25", "text": ">> [clears throat]"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:25", "text": ">> And um"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "let's make her the queen of hearts."}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "What does your daughter like to do?"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "What's what's one one thing she likes to"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "do? Terrorize people."}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:37", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:40", "text": ">> Terrorize people. Where does she like to"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "do this? Everywhere. Everywhere. So,"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "your daughter terrorizing people is the"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "queen of hearts."}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "Now,"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "give me a"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "a name of of somebody that you know that"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "you worked with in the military. Just"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "first name, military or your job here or"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "however you want to do it. You can even"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "make up a name. Okay."}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "And what is that? Eddie. Eddie. Eddie"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "Penny?"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "Yep. Okay. I'm not the mentalist, but I"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "know"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "um"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "I got a story about him."}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "Eddie Penny"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "let's make him I always like to make"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "spades people that I've worked with."}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "Uh"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "um let's make him"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "the king of spades. So, Eddie Penny the"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "king of spades, maybe he's got his"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "weapon, right?"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "Your daughter terrorizing Eddie Penny"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "with his weapon. It's king of spades."}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "One more."}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:29", "text": ">> [gasps and sighs]"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:31", "text": ">> Um"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "let's [snorts] think of a singer. A man"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "or a woman singer famous. Who who can"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "you think of?"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:38", "text": ">> Mick Jagger. Mick Jagger."}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "So, the number three"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "if you put it like this, it looks like"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "an M, right?"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "So, the three for me is always an M. So,"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "let's make Mick Jagger the three of"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "clubs cuz he you hear his song singing"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "dance clubs, right?"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "We'll stop there."}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "So, now you're at"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "the table. And you memorize a deck of"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "cards. You've got the you think back to"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "this room. First card gets played."}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "And that first card gets played"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "is the king of spades."}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "That's Eddie."}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "Boom. You attach it on your number one"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "location. You see Eddie"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "shooting up that picture right there."}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "The next card that gets played"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "is the queen of hearts. That's your"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "daughter. Now your daughter's standing"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "on this chair and she's terrorizing and"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "she's going crazy right here."}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "And"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "then the next card that gets played is"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "the three of clubs. Mick Jagger. So, now"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "you imagine Mick Jagger's over here and"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "he's interacting with with this right"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "here."}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "Then you set the cards down and you have"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "to recite the cards. You just walk back"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "around the room."}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "Oh, yeah."}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "That was"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "uh Eddie Penny over here."}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "So, that's the king of clubs. This was"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "my daughter, so that's the queen of"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "hearts. And that was Mick Jagger, so"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "that's the"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "three clubs."}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "King of spades. King of spades."}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:04", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:06", "text": ">> The memory see, the memory guy the king"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "of spades back there. But that's that's"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "the general concept."}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:13", "text": ">> Okay. Yeah. How about the number? How"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "many digits did you say? 167 digits?"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "Yeah, same concept. Uh the let's do 21's"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "a deck of cards, right? The blackjack"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "table. Uh"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "25 could be a quarter, 25 cents."}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "Um 55 could be a speed limit sign,"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "right? We'll just do those three."}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "Now, the first number you see is 55, so"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "now you've got a a speed limit sign that"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "you're imagining here, but you just"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "can't see a speed limit sign. You've got"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "to imagine cars are zooming by, right?"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "Like if you just saw a speed limit sign"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "in this picture back here, that's a real"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "passive picture. Your brain doesn't"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "remember passive pictures. You need"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "action and emotion. That's why every"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "single person listening to this right"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "now, they can tell you where they where"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "they were on September 11th. They can't"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "tell you where they were on October"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "Where were you on September 11th? I just"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "told you I was uh coming out of surgery."}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "Yes, and you know and even you know it"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "that that that that"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "uh emotion of September 11th sinked in,"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:09", "text": ">> Mhm. But you can't tell me where you"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "were October 25th of that year."}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "Mhm. Yeah. We remember things that have"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "emotion tied to them. So you remember"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "the car accident, but you can't remember"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "where when you drove two weeks ago and"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "you got gas in your car, right? So you"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "got to make these stories crazy. Right"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "here we got a speed limit sign and"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "people are zooming by, that's 55."}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "right here you got people um at a"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "blackjack table, right? For the number"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "21 for a deck of cards. So you take the"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "pictures"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "or you take numbers, you turn them into"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "a picture and then you attach those"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "pictures around around the room in a in"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "a sequence."}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "Um and that's that's"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "essentially it. There's a process of"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "turning numbers into pictures,"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:51", "text": ">> [snorts]"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:53", "text": ">> but"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "that's how you could do it with some"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "very basic pictures. Okay. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "Makes sense."}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "Kind of."}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:01", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:02", "text": ">> It It makes It's the It's the mind"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:05", "text": ">> How long did it take you to memorize"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "that 167 digit number? 5 minutes?"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:10", "text": ">> 5 minutes. Holy [ __ ] What What is that?"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "That's a So, you're coming up with a"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "What's 5"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "What 5 * 60 is"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "What? 300?"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "It is. So, 300 divided by what? 167?"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "That's less than So, you're coming up"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "with a story less"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "a a story"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "less than every 2 seconds. That's right."}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "That's [ __ ] crazy. But kind of kind"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "of You're right. You're on the right"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "track there. Based on how I described it"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "to you, yes. Based on what I just said"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "to you is how I did it, yes."}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "But I did it a little bit a little bit"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "more of an advanced way."}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "Um I was memorizing seven digits at a"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "time."}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "So, I was seeing a group of seven"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "numbers, and I was creating a picture"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "for that seven digit number."}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "So, in memory, the more you can compress"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "the data, the faster you can memorize."}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "So, let's say you have a picture for"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "every card, right? You know, your"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "daughter's a a card, Eddie's Eddie's a"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "card. Um"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "if you do that that way, and you want to"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "memorize 52 cards, you need 52 pieces of"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "furniture, right? 52 pictures."}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:22", "text": ">> [gasps]"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:24", "text": ">> Well, what if you can take a series of"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "three cards,"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "and those three cards get played, and"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "that's one picture?"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "Then, you take that one picture, and you"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "put it on the location back here. Got"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "you."}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "So, the So, I was using 17 locations"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "when I memorized a deck of cards. When I"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "would do numbers, it was seven numbers"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "per location."}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "Okay."}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "Wow."}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "I mean, that's still moving."}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "Holy [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:51", "text": ">> It is, but here's the thing, and I'm I'm"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "a I'm an honest man. I don't I would be"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "remiss if I did not say my record was 1"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "minute and 27 seconds. The current"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "record"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "is 19 seconds."}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "19 seconds? [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "19 seconds?"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:07", "text": ">> believe it's right around there, around"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "the 20-second mark."}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:12", "text": ">> Oh, [ __ ] Yeah, I think yeah. It was a"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "world record for a while. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "And my record of 167 digit numbers,"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "there's guys doing 400 digits now at the"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "USA Memory Championship."}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "Um so,"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "my while my my records were impressive"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "for the time, uh you know, they've been"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "beat. And that I'm okay with that. I"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "love that. I love that. I love that the"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "sport's evolving, and yes, I call it a"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "sport, right? Nerds got Nerds got to"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "have a sport, too."}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "Um but I love that the the sport is"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "evolving. I love seeing these guys uh"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "do things that I I was never able to"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "achieve in memory, and I think it's"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "fantastic. What do these people say out"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "on the street? I mean, your Instagram is"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "just full of going up to"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "what appear to be random strangers,"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "you know, and just going, \"Hey, do you"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "want to memorize the Bill of Rights? If"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "you don't, I'll give you 50 bucks.\""}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "Right. You know, \"Hey, do you want to"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "memorize the Ten Commandments? Do you"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "want to memorize"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "whatever it is?\" I mean, what are these"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "what are are these people like"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "They look a little apprehensive, but"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "what do they say after it's over?"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "They're amazed. I'll"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:17", "text": ">> [laughter]"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:20", "text": ">> They're amazed."}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "Um so, the the funny thing about that,"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "or maybe interesting thing, I don't"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "know."}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "You'll be You and everybody else will be"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "the verdict if it's interesting or not,"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "but the way that evolved,"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "so this is"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "11 11 months ago. 11 months ago. I had"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "13,000 followers on Instagram. Uh I'm"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "about to 11 months ago 13,000. I'll"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "cross 1.8 million sometime very soon. No"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "matter where you're watching the Shawn"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "Ryan Show from, if you get anything out"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "of this at all, anything, please like,"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "comment, and subscribe."}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "And most importantly, share this"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "everywhere you possibly can. And if"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "you're feeling extra generous, head to"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "Apple Podcast and Spotify and leave us a"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "review."}]

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She's 72 years old and"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "she's got her cognitive faculties"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "intact. She's fine there. But she was"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "scared out like she her her doctor never"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "told her to take, you know, 20 years ago"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "to take hormone replacement therapy"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "because this study went out there and"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "said that hormone replacement therapy"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "increases your risk of breast cancer."}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:13", "text": ">> Does it?"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:15", "text": ">> No. No. That has been retracted. We now"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "know that hormone replacement therapy is"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "safe. They used a different type of um"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "of estrogen back then when they were"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "testing it on women. There was many"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "things wrong with the study. A they were"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "putting conjugated estrogen which is"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "they took the estrogen from the urine of"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "female mare. So horses horse urine"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "estrogen and so it's a synthetic form of"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "estrogen. They were putting it into"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "these women. These women on average were"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "around 63 years old. So they had already"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "surpassed menopause and so it wasn't"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "working. Um and it actually increased"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "their risk of dementia. So what we have"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "now is we have a safer option for women."}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "It's bioididentical hormones. So, you"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "can take a, you know, a hormone patch,"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "an estrogen patch, you put on your your"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "body, and you replace that. I believe"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "I'm not on HRT yet, but I I will in my"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "40s. Um, basically, we have a window of"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "opportunity. So, women must get on their"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "hormone replacement therapy between the"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "ages of around 42, 45, and 52. when you"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "still have circulating estrogen in the"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "in your body for it to go in and mimic"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "that hormone and it becomes"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "bioididentical. So you have that you"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "have now a safeguard. It's called the"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "window of opportunity."}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:39", "text": ">> So women need to start hormone"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "replacement in their 40s."}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:43", "text": ">> Correct. So generally you want to get on"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "it when you're in the pmenopause stage"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "which again just like mild cognitive"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "impairment permenopause happens 10 years"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "prior to the onset of menopause."}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "Menopause is just one day, right? It's"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "when you have been 12 months without"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "your menstrual cycle."}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:00", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:03", "text": ">> So, if you reach that 365 day and you"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "haven't had a a period, that is the"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "first day of menopause."}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:08", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:10", "text": ">> It generally happens at around 52,"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "right? So, women can get into"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "permenopause in in their, you know, at"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "42, at 40, it varies. And that's when"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "you need to go to the doctor and discuss"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "your symptoms. And it can help you. It"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "can help you stave off dementia and"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "Alzheimer's disease. And it can help you"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "with your symptoms, which is the biggest"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "thing affecting these women."}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:35", "text": ">> Is there any data that shows how"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "what percentage uh it it it detours"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "dementia, Alzheimer's?"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:47", "text": ">> So, we haven't got the research yet."}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:49", "text": ">> Okay. The research is underway and"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "actually this is a huge controversial"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "debate amongst um academics right now"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "because we can't solely say hormone"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "replacement therapy prevents dementia."}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "We can't say that. But what we can say"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "is we know for sure that it helps with"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "the symptoms involved in the risk"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "factors of dementia. ing. If a woman's"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "going through permenopause and she's"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "experiencing hot flashes, that means"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "she's getting up at night, she's"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "frustrated, she's hot, she's sweating,"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "That's keeping her up at night. That's a"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "So, sleep deprivation is a risk factor"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "for Alzheimer's disease. If I can"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "correct that in a woman, then that's"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "going to help her stave off Alzheimer's"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "disease, right? What is another risk"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "factor? Well, diabetes, osteoporosis,"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "huge risk factor as we get older. A lot"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "of women who are in menopause have"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "osteoporosis because we have estrogen"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "receptors on our bones. When we lose"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "those, then we stop the formation of our"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "bones growing and they start to"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "deteriorate. What happens if we get"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "osteoporosis? Well, our bone actually"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "communicates with our brain first and"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "foremost. But a woman if she experiences"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "a fall in her 60s or 70s, it's a steady"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "decline to death after that"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:13", "text": ">> Yeah. So there are so many things. So I"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "I like to think of hormone replacement"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "therapy. It's not your be all and end"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "all, but it's going to help you go to"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "the gym. It's going to help you lift"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "weights. Estrogen is anabolic to muscle."}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "So it's going to help you build more"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "muscle. It's going to help you with your"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "mood swings. It's going to help you with"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "your hot flashes. So, that's that's what"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "it that's what it's there to do. It's to"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "help your symptoms so you can then do"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "the things that you're meant to do like"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "go to the gym, sleep, eat well, so then"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "you can have a better healthy brain."}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:48", "text": ">> I wanted to go back just a little bit"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "about what the what a person with"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "Alzheimer's is actually experiencing. I"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "kind we kind of talked about the"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "beginning of it."}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:59", "text": ">> Yeah. But I have I don't My wife"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "actually one of her really good friends"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "her her father has it and they sectioned"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "off the house into two different"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "basically apartments."}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "And"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "her her dad she's completely gone. And"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "uh you know my wife has asked her like"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "you know how do you how do you deal with"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "this? And she's she says I I don't even"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "visit him anymore. He's he's legitimate."}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "Like she considers him dead. It's just"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "not him."}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:34", "text": ">> Exactly."}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "But remember at that stage you're that's"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "it. You don't know. You don't even you"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "don't you don't have control over"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "anything. It's you are not in control"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "anymore. when your it's your brain has"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "now taken control because your brain has"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "decided that it's time now to like"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "decompose really because it's it's"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "thinking well I'm no longer like it's"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "that the signals are all cut off so you"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "are not in charge your cognitive"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "faculties that are responsible for you"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "going to the toilet or you don't have"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "control over those anymore it's another"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "force and that force is the accumulation"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "of those amaloid plots"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "And so what you'll notice though is a"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "lot of patients who have got Alzheimer's"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "disease, we're not talking about mild"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "cognitive impairment anymore, they kind"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "of feel like they want to do this from"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "the world. A lot of them, you'll see,"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "they start they stop to they stop going"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "out and communicating with people and"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "socializing and they become so secluded."}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "It's like they just want to stare at the"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "wall. I've had um the daughter of"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "somebody tell me that their mother"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:52", "text": ">> I'm excited to introduce to you the"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "newest member of my family. We call him"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "Stanley. 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I"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "just walk my property line or draw it on"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "the map, and that's the boundary the"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "collar recognizes. I can create multiple"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "fences, save them, and adjust them"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "whenever I need to. So whether we're at"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "home or traveling, Stanley always knows"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "where his boundaries are. 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Um"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "that's what makes it so devastating. So"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "they're feeling lost. They're feeling"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "confused but they're waking up every day"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "not themselves. So it's it's not who"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "they are. And it's so devastating. You"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "know, we think twothirds of all"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "Alzheimer's disease cases are female and"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "then also a third are carers."}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:37", "text": ">> A third are what?"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:40", "text": ">> Are carers. So, it's usually the females"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "who then end up taking care of a person"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "with Alzheimer's disease, albeit mother,"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "father, husband, whatever it is. So, um,"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "you've got enormous pressure placed and"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "Emma Willis speaks about this, the wife"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "of Bruce Willis, like caregivers,"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "enormous uh, financial burden"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:04", "text": ">> and seeing a loved one forget who you"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "are. So, it's actually hard on both"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "parties. It's hard on the person itself."}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "You have to think this person who has"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "Alzheimer's disease, they don't know if"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "they've eaten. Sometimes a lot of these"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "people starve as well. They don't know"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "if they've eaten. They sometimes they"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "forget to swallow. They don't know if"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "they've hit their head."}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "They don't know if they're feeling pain"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "or not. They don't know um if they've"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "been to the bathroom. More often than"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "not, it's, you know, just the wedding"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "themselves or or something like that. Uh"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "so they don't realize any of this"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "because your brain is not functioning."}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "your brain does not function, your life"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "doesn't function."}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:44", "text": ">> Do they go in and out of it?"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:47", "text": ">> They can become lucid at times. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "And that's very unpredictable."}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:50", "text": ">> Why does that happen?"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:53", "text": ">> That just happens. Well, we we don't"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "know. You know, you can become a it's"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "just a small moment in time where you"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "can be laying there on your bed and you"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "can recognize your wife or your child."}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "You can recognize them for a very short"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "period of time."}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "There's a movie that was made and it was"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "so beautiful. I forget the actress's"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "name, but it's called Still Alice"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "and and basically it chronicles the"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "woman who gets diagnosed with dementia"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "in her 40s and that's called uh early"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "onset Alzheimer's disease. That's the"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "one that's predominantly genetic. As I"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "mentioned earlier, when you do get those"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "genes, if it's precinel one, precinella"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "2, amalloid precursor protein, if you've"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "got it, you will get the early onset"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "Alzheimer's disease in your 40s, right?"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "But most of diseases occur due to late"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "onset Alzheimer's disease, which is the"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "genetic, which is the lifestyle ones."}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "So, if you see her in this movie, you"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "can see the fast deterioration of who"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "she is to death really. And you should"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "watch it because she starts to lose"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "everything. Like first of all, she she's"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "driving and then out of nowhere she's"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "looking around. She's like, \"Where am I?"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "Where am I driving to? What am I doing?\""}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "And that's the mild cognitive impairment"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "stage."}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:15", "text": ">> No matter where you're watching the"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "Shawn Ryan Show from, if you get"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "anything out of this at all, anything,"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "please like, comment, and subscribe. 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I already know"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "them. Okay, nice. I'm assuming you know"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "the Bill of Rights."}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "I don't. Okay. Let's do that."}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:33", "text": ">> All of it? Let's do that. Let's use our"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "fingers. So,"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "first one, imagine this is a microphone."}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:38", "text": ">> Actually, I I know the majority of them."}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:40", "text": ">> You know the majority"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:43", "text": ">> let's Yeah, let's do something else."}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "Okay. 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Okay."}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:05", "text": ">> of the The one uh the painting?"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "Or just Or you just telling me to pick"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "one? You pick one."}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:10", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "So, this is the Beatitudes. Comes from"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "the Sermon on the Mount."}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "Okay, there it is."}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "Blessed are the poor in spirit, for"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "theirs is the kingdom of heaven. On this"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "picture behind me, I want you to imagine"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "the frame is the kingdom of heaven. 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Blessed are the poor in"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "spirit."}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "Theirs is the kingdom of heaven."}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:05", "text": ">> Theirs is the kingdom of heaven. The"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "next one is blessed those who mourn for"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "they shall be comforted. We're only"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "going to think the two things."}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "People who mourn are comforted. Imagine"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "me with tears rolling down my face. I'm"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "mourning."}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "And I got a comforter around me. Blessed"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "are those who mourn. 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The frame cuz theirs is the"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "kingdom of heaven. Okay. Blessed are"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "those who mourn right here for theirs"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "Blessed for they shall be comforted."}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "I want you to um look down here at my"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "shoes and I'm telling you a story and"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "I'm saying these are my shoes. This is"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "me. The word is meek. So, what are my"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "shoes going to represent?"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:57", "text": ">> Meek. And they inherit the earth. So,"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "they're we're on the ground. Earth. So,"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "the meek will inherit what? The earth."}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "Now, let's just review."}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "Blessed are the poor in spirit for"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "theirs is the"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "kingdom of heaven. Blessed those who"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "mourn for they shall be"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "comforted. Blessed are the meek for"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "theirs"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "they shall inherit the earth. the earth."}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "So, now [clears throat] we go to um"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "Let's go to this this right up here. And"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "blessed are those"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "who hunger and thirst for righteousness"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "for they shall be filled."}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "Imagine somebody is hungering and"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "thirsting and and they they want"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "something to eat and drink. So, over"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "there they're eating, they're drinking,"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "they're being filled. Hungering and"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "thirsting being filled. The phrase is"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "this. Blessed are those who hunger and"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "thirst for righteousness for they shall"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "be filled. So, what what Blessed are"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "those who what? Hunger in righteousness"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "for they shall be filled."}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:50", "text": ">> Perfect. We'll do one more and then"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "we'll review. And blaze Believe it or"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "not, there's only two more."}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "Blessed are the merciful."}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "For they shall be shown mercy."}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "So,"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "over here on these UFC gloves, I want"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "you to imagine whose gloves are those?"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "These ones? Yeah."}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "Andrei Arlovski's. He is showing mercy"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "on somebody. He's got those gloves, but"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "he's showing mercy. 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Blessed are those who mourn"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "for they shall be comforted."}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:29", "text": ">> Blessed are the meek for they shall"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "inherit the earth."}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "Blessed are those who hunger and thirst"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "for righteousness for they shall be"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "[ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "filled. filled."}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:38", "text": ">> Filled. They're filling them They're"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "filling their stomachs up."}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:41", "text": ">> it."}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "blessed are the merciful, the gloves,"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "for they shall be shown mercy. mercy."}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "And then this last one"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "or there's two more. Blessed are the"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "pure in heart for they shall see God."}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "I want you"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "to see this guy right here looking out"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "of the airplane and regardless of what"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "people say about him, I think he has a"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "pure heart."}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "Blessed are the And I'm making a joke"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "there. Of course you do. Blessed are the"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "pure in heart for they shall see God."}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "You're looking out of that window and"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "you're seeing God. Blessed are the pure"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "in heart for they shall see God."}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "The pure in heart shall what? Seeing"}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "God."}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:18", "text": ">> See God. One last one and you got this,"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "Sean. I promise you. I'm going to say it"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "with you."}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:23", "text": ">> [gasps]"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:25", "text": ">> Blessed are those Let's this last one is"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "the American flag. The frame is the"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "kingdom of heaven, just like the frame"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "was the kingdom of heaven over here,"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:30", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "I want you to imagine"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "that somebody is being persecuted for"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "being an American over there. Mhm."}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "Blessed are those who are persecuted for"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "theirs is the kingdom of heaven. So,"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "blessed are those who persecuted, think"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "of the frame, and what does the frame"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "tell us?"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "They'll enter the kingdom of heaven."}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "Perfect. I'm going to say all these with"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "you and you're done. That's it."}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "Blessed are the poor in spirit, for"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "theirs is the"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "What the Think of the frame."}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "What's that? Blessed The The frame is"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "telling us the kingdom of heaven. So,"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "back here on this, blessed are the poor"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "heaven. Blessed are those who mourn, for"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "they shall be"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:14", "text": ">> comforted. Blessed are meek, for they"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "shall inherit the earth. Earth. Blessed"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "are those who hunger and thirst of"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "righteousness, for they shall be"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:24", "text": ">> filled. Filled. Blessed"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "are the the glad the the the gloves."}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "Blessed are the merciful, for they shall"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "be shown mercy. Blessed are the pure in"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "heart, for they shall"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "You're looking out that window of the"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "helicopter."}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:39", "text": ">> See God. See God. Blessed are those who"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "are purchased persecuted."}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "Theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Boo-ya,"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "baby."}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "So,"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "Now, Sean, that was a little bit more"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "involved than my average video on the"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "street. Um it's more just one word. You"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "know, freedom of speech, the the right"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "to bear arms. But you man, you may say"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "Right now, you may be saying to"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "yourself, \"Right, I don't got it"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "perfect. I don't got it perfect.\" You"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "You got it in your brain though."}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "So, now this afternoon, you review it."}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "You review it again. You review it"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "tonight. You review it tomorrow. Then"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "you got it perfect."}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:15", "text": ">> Kingdom of kingdom of heaven, comforted,"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "filled,"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "mercy,"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "see God,"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "kingdom of heaven. Is that Is that all"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "of them?"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "Did you say inherit the earth?"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:31", "text": ">> That's awesome, man. That's awesome. And"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "that's how memory works."}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "You take what you want to remember and"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "you visualize it around a room. You You"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "see it interacting with that location."}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "It If If If what's important to you is"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "scripture and your faith, you could map"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "You could have you could have this is"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "called a mind palace. You could map out"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "a mind palace for your faith. If it is"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "you want to be Oh, look at this the the"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "the seal tried it. How great is that on"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "this Bible?"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "Um you want to give a business speech,"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "you map out your business speech and you"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "you visualize it around a room. This"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "system was developed as the legend goes"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "uh 2,500 years ago by a man named"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "Simonides. The legend's not true, but"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "it's a story that goes back 2,500 years."}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "And"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "Roman orators 2,000 years ago, this is"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "true. Roman orators would use this"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "system to give their speeches on the"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "floor of the Roman Senate. They would"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "take the first thing they want to say"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "and put there, the second thing here,"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "the third thing here, the fourth thing"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "here. Legend has it is that the saying"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "in the first place, in the second place,"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "in the third place,"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "it originates from this system. The"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "speakers would say,"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "\"In the first place, in the second"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "place.\" Hm, is that true or not? I don't"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "know, but it fits the the system."}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "No matter where you're watching the"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "Shawn Ryan Show from, if you get"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "anything out of this at all, anything,"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "please like, comment, and subscribe."}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "And most importantly, share this"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "everywhere you possibly can. And if"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "you're feeling extra generous, head to"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "Apple Podcasts and Spotify and leave us"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "a review."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "How can we trust the Bible's true? The"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "modern people would say, \"Memory is not"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "reliable. My memory is not good.\" The"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "ancient people, it was so much"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "different. They would tell these songs"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "and stories. These songs were the GPS"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "for Australia tens of thousands of years"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "ago. Memory it was a survival skill."}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "Modern humans, I think we're becoming"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "drones. One of the things that I"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "wondered, \"How can we trust the Bible's"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "true when Jesus died in 33 AD and most"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "of the Gospels weren't written until 20"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "or 30 years later, right? How"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "that that's from memory. They're not"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "They're not taking notes at the tomb."}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "You know what I'm saying?"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "There's a 500-year gap"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "between Abraham and Moses."}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "Moses wrote Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus,"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "Numbers, and Deuteronomy, the first five"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "books of the Bible. That at least that's"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "what um"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "most Christians and Jews believe that"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "Moses wrote the first five books."}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "Well, if there's a 500-year gap between"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "Abraham and Moses,"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "that means what what he wrote in"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "Genesis, he didn't live any of that. It"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "was a oral tradition, right?"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:18", "text": ">> [gasps]"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:20", "text": ">> So,"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "if that's all oral tradition, all of"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "Genesis, if there was a 20-30 year gap"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "between Jesus dying and the Gospels"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "being written, how the modern people"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "would say, \"Memory is not reliable. My"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "memory is not good.\" You know, and well,"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "modern people we hear that this, we"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "think memory's unreliable. The ancient"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "people, it was so much different. They"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "had these group oral traditions. So, you"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "think about it, Jesus spoke in parables,"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:54", "text": ">> Mhm. What are parables?"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "And what are [clears throat] Parables"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "are pictures."}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "And that's what I've been saying today,"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "Your mind needs to remember a picture."}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "And by the way, when I"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "the the parables are easy to remember"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "because they're a picture. You know, 2"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "Timothy 3:16 says, \"All scripture is"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "God-breathed.\" Right? So, when I'm"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "saying this, when I'm I'm I'm going to"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "tell you I why I believe we can trust"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "the reliability of the scripture based"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "on memory guy's perspective, right? Not"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "based on a religious perspective."}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "But some people would say, \"Ron, it's"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "supernatural. Forget all that stuff"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "about memory and all that other stuff."}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "It's It has nothing to do with that."}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "It's It's supernatural.\" 2 Timothy 3:16"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "says, \"All scripture is God-breathed. It"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "was written by the breath of God through"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "moving the hands of humans.\" Right?"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "But I'm not discounting the supernatural"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "way the Bible was transmitted. Mhm. But"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "these oral cultures,"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "it's not like we have memory today. It"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "was group memory. They would recite it"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "all together, and they would drill it,"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "and they would repeat it. They would"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "tell the stories over and over again. If"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "somebody in the group would say the"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "story wrong, the group would correct"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "them. So, these oral traditions was"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "almost just as good as as writing"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "something down. The way the Bible was"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "engineered itself, Proverbs"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "[clears throat] chapter 1 says, \"The"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "fear of the Lord is the beginning of"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "knowledge.\" But the very next verse"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "says, \"Fools despise wisdom and"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "discipline.\" The Bible's written like"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "that in a lot of places where it'll say"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "a line, and then the very next line,"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "it's like a contrast. The fear of the"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "Lord is the beginning of knowledge, but"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "fools despise wisdom and discipline."}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "Those two sentences kind of go together"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "cuz they're contrasting ideas. I don't"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "know if if I explained that the right"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "way or not."}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "But the way the Bible's written, the way"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "it is engineered is it helps your"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "memory. Psalm the 23rd Psalms."}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "He makes me lie down but"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "between on green pastures, laid beside"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "still waters. That's imagery."}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "So, when when these stories were passed"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "down,"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "they were passed down with imagery."}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "Green pastures, still still waters."}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "Imagery cements it in your memory. If"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "you have the faith of a mustard seed,"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "you can move a mountain. Imagery. The"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "way Jesus spoke was imagery. He was and"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "I don't know why. I'm speaking from a"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "memory"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "perspective, not a religious perspective"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "here. But but from a memory's"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "perspective, I've got to think if if"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "Jesus is who he says he was, he wants"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "these stories to be passed down. He"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "knows we're nothing but we're we're"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "humans, human memory. I've got to tell"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "these stories in a way that they can"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "remember them. So, I'm going to speak in"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "parables. I'm going to talk about I'm"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "not going to say if you have faith, you"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "can do anything. That's not a picture."}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "I'm going to say if you have the faith"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "of a mustard seed, you can move a"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "mountain."}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "So, I believe the parables were"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "engineered so we could remember them. I"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "believe the group memory. But I will say"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "this, this isn't just the the the"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "Christian faith. The oral traditions of"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "all ancient societies or a lot of"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "ancient societies"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "um are very reliable. Fascinating, the"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "Aborigines in Australia"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "um they would pass stuff down in songs,"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "much like I'm saying now. They would"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "sing songs, they would say them in"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "groups, they would tell these songs and"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "stories"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:08", "text": ">> [snorts]"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:11", "text": ">> in in in groups. If somebody got it"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "wrong, they corrected it. These songs"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "were the GPS for Australia tens of"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "thousands of years ago. So,"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "I don't know what the songs were like."}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "But I do know they could know there's"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "going to be a canyon, there's going to"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "be a mountain, there's going to be a"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "rock formation and then and then there's"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "going to be this right here. So, if they"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "were ever out in the wilderness of"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "Australia, they had it in songs. And I I"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "I was sort of thinking about how could"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "they do that other than just song"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "lyrics. But I"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "thought I'd have an idea. I don't know"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "if this is how it is. This is my idea."}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "But"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:46", "text": ">> [clears throat]"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:52", "text": ">> the the alphabet song."}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "A B C D E F G H I, J, K. L M N O P. And"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "you notice how you said that?"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:56", "text": ">> [clears throat]"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:06:00", "text": ">> You said it faster than the other words."}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L M N O"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "P."}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "My guess, and I don't know if this is"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "true or not. I know they memorized the"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "landscape of Australia with a song."}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "Well, if it's a tree"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "and then there's a long distance and"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "then it's a canyon"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "and then there's another long distance"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "and it's a mountain"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "and then there's three mountains real"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "close together. That's the L M N O P."}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "So, this this GPS, they could be out and"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "the pause is the slowness would be the"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "distances. The L M N O P, like a"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "topographical map, it's all close"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "together. The L M N O P, tree, mountain,"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "whatever."}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "Their songs were so accurate. There was"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "a a volcano called Budj Bim"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "in Australia. Budj Bim Budj Bim uh"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "exploded"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "over 30,000 years ago."}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "So, the ancient people of Australia had"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "these songs talking about Budj Bim"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "exploding. There's no way"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "that the that the people 500 years ago"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "would have known about that if it hadn't"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "been passed down in a song."}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "So, these songs of ancient cultures,"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "whether it's the Christian faith or"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "whether the Aborigines, they're doing it"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "as songs, they're doing it as group"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "memory. Group memory is reliable."}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "Individual memory isn't. But that's how"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "much of the Bible and then other things"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "were passed down."}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:19", "text": ">> makes a lot of sense."}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "Wow."}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "That does make a lot of sense."}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "It was their It was their identity,"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "right? It was It was how they survived."}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "Imagine there's a drought in Australia"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "and in this drought this one plant,"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "maybe, is their survival cuz they can"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "they can drink the they can drink the"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "liquid that's inside of it. It saved"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "their lives. It's a plant that you would"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "never eat it cuz it has a sour bitter"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "taste, right? I'm giving you a"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "hypothetical here. It's a sour bitter"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "taste. You would never eat it in a"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "million years, but it becomes part of"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "their song because it saved their lives"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "during this time."}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "Generations later, they don't eat that"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "plant either cuz it has a sour bitter"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "taste, but they go through the same"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "drought. Everything dies. They remember"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "the song and it saves their life."}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "So, memory it it was a survival skill."}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "It was crucial to ancient humans. Modern"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "humans, I think we're becoming drones."}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "We're outsourcing our memories to chat"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "GPT or AI or and all this other stuff."}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "Here's a crazy study, Shawn."}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "There There's a study called the PISA,"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "the Program for International Student"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "Assessment. The PISA study test"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "15-year-olds on math, science, and all"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "this stuff. They've been doing it for"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "years."}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "This is the first generation, the"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "current generation."}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "This is the first the young kids today."}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "This is the first generation that is"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "scoring lower on these tests, which they"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "are It's not an IQ test, but they are"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "correlated to that IQ. This first"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "generation has scored lower on IQ test"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "and these tests than their previous"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "generation. There's something called the"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "Flynn effect. And the Flynn effect says"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "every generation the IQ has improved."}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "Every generation, the generation that"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "was before it, their IQ has increased"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "until now."}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "And there's a neuroscientist named Jared"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "Horvath, I believe. He is saying it's"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "screen time. He's saying it's He's"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "saying our kids are even in the class in"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "the classrooms. The classrooms they're"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "learning on screens. Well, what happens"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "in a classroom when you're learning on a"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "screen? You're skimming. It's not This"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "is This is his theory, but it makes"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "sense. You're skimming. It's not deep"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "studying. It's not deep studying like we"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "had where we're learning from a person."}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "It's skimming studying. And maybe"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "there's alerts and notifications that's"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "distracting you, but his belief, and I"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "think it's probably true, is technology"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "is great asset, but it's also harming"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "this current generation and probably"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "generations going forward."}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "Yeah, I wouldn't disagree. I don't think"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "anybody would disagree with that."}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "Wow. What's that What's his name? Jared"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "Horvath. Jared Horvath. He's a"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "neuroscientist. I Somebody just sent me"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "the article a couple weeks ago."}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "I got to get that from you. That would"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "be an interesting talk."}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "It was fascinating what I read on him."}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "No matter where you're watching the"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "Shawn Ryan Show from, if you get"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "anything out of this at all, anything,"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "please like, comment, and subscribe."}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "And most importantly, share this"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "everywhere you possibly can. 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Have you have you"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "witnessed any of that?"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:24", "text": ">> They told me when I started they said,"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "\"Hey, just be aware um it's possible"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "that you know you might have the"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "government listening to your phone calls"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "or check or checking your emails.\" So,"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "just be careful what you say. We get our"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "phones hacked while we're on the ranch."}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "You'll just be sitting there and all a"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "sudden something opens up your phone."}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "It's like going through everything. Oh,"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "yeah. That happens to everybody on the"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "ranch."}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:44", "text": ">> But I do also think that some of the big"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "stuff is held back on a on a more"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "governmental level."}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:47", "text": ">> Do you think there's like national"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "security implications?"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:55", "text": ">> Yeah, absolutely. Really? Absolutely."}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:58", "text": ">> So, you're saying that the phenomenon is"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "obviously aware on subconscious level."}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "It behaves that way"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:04", "text": ">> of what your intention is"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:08", "text": ">> and it knows ahead of time."}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "On daylight cameras, a UFO shows up."}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "There's a cow in the shade underneath"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "and buckles and dies. UFO goes away."}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "They brought me in, I don't know, a few"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "weeks, a month later. And that thing had"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "contorted in what we call the dinosaur"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "death post. Normally a mammal when they"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "die, they go into the fetal position. We"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "found a skunk and it looked like a"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "taxonermy skunk. We documented it there"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "for 3 years."}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:32", "text": ">> It was untouched. It didn't rot. It"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "didn't disintegrate"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:36", "text": ">> for 3 years."}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:39", "text": ">> 3 years. Is that Is that That's"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "impossible. 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But hurry up because our"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "first shows are coming up very soon. You"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "can go to it's probably.com for those."}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "Go to area52.shop top for your chance to"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "win an awesome trip hanging out with"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "this guy."}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "Welcome, Ben Woodruff. So, Ben, you've"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "been part of the sort of skinwalker uh"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "legacy as far as the television show"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "goes, but also behind the scenes doing a"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "lot of the biological testing. Yes."}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:17", "text": ">> Um namely experiments with birds as well"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "and just looking at the land. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "we're going to talk about so many"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "different facets of this fascinating"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "geographical area that's been enigmatic"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "to say the least, and that I I think so"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "many people are really invested in."}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "Partially, I think mainly due to the"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "television series, but also uh the"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "books, the lore, the stories, the the"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "hitchhiker effect, the cattle"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "mutilations, the the tie to to Bob"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "Bigalow, the you know, there's so much"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "history here. This is a a mecca or at"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "least another sort of Bermuda Triangle"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "in the UFO sphere. Uh so I want to thank"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "you for coming all the way down from"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "Utah today and welcome."}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:57", "text": ">> Absolutely. Thanks for having me. It's a"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "pleasure to be out."}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:01", "text": ">> Great. I can't wait to get into some of"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "this stuff. I I I've been biting my"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "tongue. We went out for breakfast this"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "morning and I was I was, you know, kind"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "of like pulling my punches. I didn't"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "want to, you know, I didn't want to get"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "through all the things that I wanted to"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "ask you. But for viewers at home that"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "might be sort of introduced to this"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "topic uh perhaps a little more recently"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "can you give us a general sort of"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "gestalt on what is skinwalker ranch?"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:28", "text": ">> So I guess oh you would say it's an area"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "of high strangeness but that's pretty"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "nebulous term. So it has a history going"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "back thousands of years. the native"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "people in the land there, the Native"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "American tribes going way back, uh, have"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "a rich history of very anomalous things"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "from portals opening up to, you know,"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "skinw walkers themselves. The term"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "skinwalker is um, actually a Navajo"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "term, Da, the Navajo tribe, the Da"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "tribe. And it is kind of come to evolve"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "to be a broader thing. Anything weird,"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "anything strange, anything anomalous,"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "oh, it's a skinwalker. But that's not"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "the origins of it. But the ranch itself"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "has had since ancient times, it's had"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "strange things. It's had prehistoric"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "animals appearing, which doesn't I'm"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "just reporting what's been said. It's"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "had, you know, UFOs um and well"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "documented at least since the 1990s, but"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "um people even much earlier going back"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "all kinds of strange things. You know,"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "like I said, portals opening up,"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:29", "text": ">> poltergeist activity,"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:33", "text": ">> poltergeist, ghost, cattle mutilations,"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "um, and beings, people seeing beings and"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "hearing voices, speaking many different"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "languages. Uh, so a wide range of"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "things. And then the government got"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "involved in the '90s and has really been"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "involved ever since. Um, they're not"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "officially now, but they still are."}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "Well, so in involved they were involved"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "initially with NIDS or you know the"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "scientists that were there looking at it"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "namely you know you had Bob Bigalow, you"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "had Hal Put Off, you had a lot of these"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "sort of heavy hitters in this area"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "looking at this place um buying the farm"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "first of all or the property off of the"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "the the family who had it there"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "previously who had all these anomalous"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "things happen to them and then out of"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "interest, you know, Bob I Bigalow I"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "think was funded uh for this or Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "partially funded. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:19", "text": ">> partially funded."}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:21", "text": ">> Yeah, partially funded. There was some"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "Senator Harry Reid got some funding for"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "it and so it was researched, you know,"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "by the government. Government"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "contracted. Um, and then eventually they"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "took over completely. Uh, the Shermans"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "were still living on the ranch at first"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "and eventually the government completely"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "took over through the '9s and early"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "2000s. And there's a lot of things that"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "you know people who were on those early"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "teams they allude to but I think there's"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "a lot that we the current team have not"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "been told. So um and but all the"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "information back then it was all analog."}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "It was like our ability to capture data"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "has exponentially grown since and so the"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "what we're doing now I think far exceeds"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "what was done back then. I I don't know"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "because we don't have all of that data."}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "But from the sound of it, you know, I"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "mean, if you're just having VHS that"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "you're recording things with compared to"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "now, you know, where we have, you know,"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "everything from mass spectrometers to,"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "you know, LAR that we can shoot through"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "things and drones. I mean, uh, you know,"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "digital footage. It's incredible what"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "we're capturing now. Do you think that"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "there is some some merit to capturing it"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "in an analog way, though? because it"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "seems like the phenomenon itself messes"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "with things that are digital. I think it"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "does, but I I I hate saying this, but I"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "I I have to say it. The the ranch"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "operates as if it is self-aware, as if"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "it has a consciousness. Maybe it does."}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "Even if it doesn't, it operates that"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "way. Kind of like genetics. Genes"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "operate as though we say, \"Oh, this is"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "the genetic motivation.\" Well, genes, as"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "far as we know, don't have a motivation,"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "but they operate in the way that they"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "do. So we phrase it, the ranch, whether"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "it's actually self-aware or not, it"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "operates as though it appears to be."}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:05", "text": ">> And what I see is that during the"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "Bigalow era, it was kind of given a"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "little friction and then it kind of died"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "down and then during this new era, it"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "gave friction at first and we gave"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "friction back and some rough things"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "happened in the beginning and then it"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "was kind of like, okay, all right, fine."}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "I'm going to teach you. It's like the"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "phenomenon is like, I'm going to teach"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "you. I'm going to mess with your digital"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "devices, but learn from that and then do"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "a better experiment. It's almost like"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "it's a trickster spirit, like a"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "trickster energy, but it's trying to"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "teach you and move the ball forward."}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "It's almost like you're you idiots are"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "you keep coming back?"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:40", "text": ">> All right. Okay. I'm going to teach you"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "some things. So, to, you know, to to any"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "skeptical person out there, this sounds"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "like a lot of woo woo stuff."}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "initially when you hear this stuff"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "coming from someone like yourself,"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:56", "text": ">> you know, you know, you have clear a"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "clear history in studying biology and"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "paleontology and all this stuff to hear"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "someone like you of your caliber say,"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "\"Oh, but there's like a trickster energy"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "that that does sound a little woo to"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "people out there.\" What's an example"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "that you can give that's like a concrete"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "like, oh, here's just one of many"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "that'll help you understand what I'm"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "trying to say. Um, as far as"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "some the ranch seems to give you what"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "you want. If you come in there with a"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "lot of bravado, people get attacked. Uh,"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "people collapse, people fall over. Uh,"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "you know, people get their heart"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "attacked, people get their mind"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "attacked. But if you come in and just"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "kind of have an attitude of like, I'd"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "like to learn, then it seems the"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "phenomenon will show you what your field"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "of science wants. Now, I I understand"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "you could say the opposite. You could"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "say, well, that's your field of science,"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "so of course you're going to notice"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "those kind of things. I I'm aware of"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "that, but even factoring that in, it"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "seems to show you that. Um,"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:54", "text": ">> so it's like amplifying what's already"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "in your mind kind of thing."}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:58", "text": ">> Like it it's aware and it will show you."}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "It will bring you like for me, dead"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "stuff. anytime I'm going to come on the"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "ranch, I dead animals are going to give"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "you so much information. And you know,"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "we we even had one time where the"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "producer of the show and I walked out"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "when I just showed up and there was two"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "dead quail sitting right in front of us"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "and we're both laughing. We're like,"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "\"Uh, okay, Ben showed up. Here's dead"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "quail.\" Both of them, the beaks open up"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "like this, right? Both of them had the"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "front the upper mandible bashed in, but"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "the lower mandible was still in place,"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "which if they ran into something, those"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "would both be broken. They were dead."}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "They sat on the ground all week, summer"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "heat. They were 2 feet away. I've got"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "footage of this. 2 feet away from a fire"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "antill. The fire ants wouldn't touch it"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "and they stayed floppy for for that"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "whole week. So, we ended up freezing"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "them. And so, it's like, well, Ben's"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "here. Here's dead animals. That's what"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "you always want. Here's some fresh dead"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "animals for you."}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:53", "text": ">> You know, there's something deeply"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "ironic about spending all this time"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "talking about surveillance and data"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "leaks and black projects and crypted"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "apps and then carrying around a phone"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "that's connected to a carrier that's"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "basically farming your information 24/7."}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "Because traditional carriers like AT&T,"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "Verizon, and T-Mobile have had breach"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "after breach after breach. 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Obviously, there are"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "plenty thousands"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "thousands upon thousands I I would"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "probably even estimate tens of thousands"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "of cases of like cattle mutilation"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "across North America. It's it's a"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "problem for a lot of farmers in Canada"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "as well. And um especially, you know, in"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "these sort of local or these sort of"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "isolated areas, there there seems to be"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "a lot of this happening. Not strictly"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "cattle."}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:52", "text": ">> Uh it sometimes can, you know, go into"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "horses or like other, you know, mammals."}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:59", "text": ">> Um but Skinwalker Ranch is known"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "primarily for the cattle mutilations."}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:03", "text": ">> Yeah. When we're talking about cattle"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "mutilations to to anyone that's out"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "there, there's obviously some anomalous"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "things that happen or that happened to"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "the animal that cause, you know, sort of"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "concern, which is the unexplained boring"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "of, you know, its genitals or the lack"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "of blood or the lack of struggle even."}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "But then like you said, just the sort of"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "lack of rigor mortise or or or the the"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "way that they decompose and the way that"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "animals are sort of uninterested"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:36", "text": ">> in a carcass, which is obviously very"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "interesting to to animals normally."}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:40", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:42", "text": ">> Um what out of all of those symptoms,"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "what have you observed there? Have you"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "seen all of these things firsthand?"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:47", "text": ">> Yes. Uh my my first time, so I'll talk"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "about the small stuff and then the"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "cattle me part. Yeah. So my first day"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "coming on the ranch, we pull up and at"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "the gate I look over and there's a dead"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "rabbit sitting there and I thought,"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "\"Okay.\" And in those days I was nervous"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "to take photos and document cuz it was I"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "was very cautious about things and now I"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "film everything. So I snapped a few"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "pictures and every day coming back um it"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "was still there and we checked it."}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "Floppy, no ants, no gastrointestinal"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "swelling, you know, no bloating, uh no"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "no scavengers bothered it, no ants, no"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "flies, nothing. It didn't smell. And um"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "I was there I don't know like 3, four or"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "five days that week, that first week."}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "And then the last day I went, it was"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "gone. And it was all sand near it. No"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "tracks, nothing, nothing had scavenged."}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "It was just gone. Uh that same first"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "week, we found a skunk. And it looked"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "like a taxer skunk. It looked like it"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "was happy. It was just like this dead"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "skunk. We documented it there for 3"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "years. It was untouched. It didn't rot."}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "It didn't disintegrate. It smelled a"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "little bit like a skunk, but no rot"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "stink. And then finally"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:53", "text": ">> for 3 years."}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:54", "text": ">> 3 years. And so finally Eric Bard and I"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:56", "text": ">> Is that Is that"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:58", "text": ">> That's impossible. That's impossible."}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "You have decomposers. When you die, you"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "have internal bacteria that starts to"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "You're like, \"Oh, I'm not getting a food"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "source anymore.\" So it starts to eat"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "your stomach lining off gasing and"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "that's where you get the bloating. But"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "you also have external decomposers that"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "start to break you down. None of that"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "happened. And so Eric Bart and I said,"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "\"Well, it's been 3 years. Let's film a"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "little blurb on it.\" So him and I, just"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "on his phone, we filmed a thing of it"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "and turned it over and examined it. The"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "next day, we came out. It was gone. And"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "in its place was a perfectly decomposed"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "like arm of like probably like a prairie"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "dog, like a a large large rodent, not a"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "skunk. And a chunk of that skunk fur was"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "wedged up on the side of the old ruins"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "of the homestead, too. there almost like"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "it's like oh you think I can't decompose"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "blam here's a decomposed hand and here's"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "a little you know and nobody else you"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "can't get on the ranch you can't just"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "drive on we were the only ones there was"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "just Eric and I so did Eric in the"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "middle of the night go and get rid of"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "the skunk and put a prairie dog leg"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "there and put wedge this thing up there"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "um so what we found is that small"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "animals don't decompose rigamortis"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "doesn't set in they never bloat um if"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "they're in the water they will but if"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "they're on And they don't they just stay"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "floppy. And"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:15", "text": ">> this is all animals without exception."}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "All small animals without exception."}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:22", "text": ">> Birds. I've birds and mammals and one"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "frog. Um we've had weird things with a"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "fish, too, which that that's that's"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "that's a separate issue, too. But um but"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "yeah, so so small animals, if you're"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "like coyote sized or smaller, if you die"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "on the ranch, you don't decompose. We've"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "had some things uh like we had a bird"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "called an oral and they brought me this"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "oral and it was the legs you got skin"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "and scales on the legs right and when we"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "did a necropsy open it up there was just"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "gaps and I'll I'll send you a picture a"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "drawing I did and it was just like bone"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "empty bone empty bone empty down the"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "whole leg it was just just chunks"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "missing that bird would not be alive if"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "that was the case and there were just"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "these gaps of marrow of"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:09", "text": ">> Yeah. Just like No, no tendon, muscle or"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "bone. And then tendon, muscle, and bone."}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "No tendon, muscle."}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:15", "text": ">> Everything was But the leg Yeah. The"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "skin and the scales on the outside were"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "there. And so we open it up and it's"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "like that's impossible. And no"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "decomposer would do that."}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:25", "text": ">> No dermested beetles wouldn't do that,"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "you know, because tendon and bone, you"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "know, it doesn't make sense. So I that"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "one was that one messed me up. So,"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "another one we found on the ranch, a"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "starling. And I think this was on the TV"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "show. And this starling was squishy and"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "stayed that way for like months. It's a"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "bird. It's a It's a little bird. It's um"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "it's in the Mina family. They're from"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "Europe. People brought them over. Okay."}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:48", "text": ">> Um and you know, they're about the size"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "like a you know, robin, bigger than a"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "sparrow, but it was squishy to the"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "touch. Stayed that way forever. So, I"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "took it off the ranch. Once it was off"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "the ranch, it started to decompose. And"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "the skull looked like it had blown up"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "from the inside. And Eric pointed that"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "out. He's like, \"There looks like some"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "sort sort of energetic thing that popped"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "out.\" Well, in the skull, I was It"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "started to smell at home. Never did on"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "the ranch. So, is it because it's on the"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "ranch that doesn't decompose? Well, all"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "these weird bubbles started to form. It"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "looked like a metallic bubble and they"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "would it was almost like a Yeah, like a"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "bubble would start to and I got tweezers"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "and I'm like, \"Oh, I'm going to grab"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "this.\" Pop. It pops. No residue. And I'm"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "like, \"Oh, that's strange. Another one"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "forms.\" And and they kept forming and"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "finally I'm like, \"Every time this is"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "popping, nobody's going to believe me.\""}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "So, I snapped a few photos and I'll I'll"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "show you some photos of that, too. But I"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "was like, I don't know what that stuff"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "was, but it didn't happen until this"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "dead bird was taken off the ranch. But"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "before that, even when it was fresh off"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "the ranch, squishy and floppy. It's"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "insane."}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:58", "text": ">> That's I mean, that's definitely insane."}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "Um, I want to I want to just interject"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "with uh something that maybe I should"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "have said at the beginning, but there"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "you know, when you reached out to me,"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "you were kind of uh pretty happy that"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "you were able to talk about some of"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "these things because previously um there"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "had been you'd had to sign some NDAs"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "about a lot of this information."}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:21", "text": ">> Yes. due to the nature of uh because"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "they might be using it in future seasons"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "or you know it's it's proprietary you"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "know information that you were hired and"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "you were um but is there so now that"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "you're released of this"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:35", "text": ">> partially released of some of that"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "information"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "um there is still information that you"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "can't talk about"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:40", "text": ">> absolutely"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:44", "text": ">> is that information that you can't talk"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "about related to just like breakthrough"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "findings and science and and or is it"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "related to more like proprietary info or"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "is it related to security?"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:55", "text": ">> It's more of security and things that"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "we've witnessed. Um the things that I've"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "gotten permission to talk about, there's"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "a lot that I can't talk about in my"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "fields"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:00", "text": ">> that you can't"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:02", "text": ">> cannot. Okay."}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:03", "text": ">> And there's a lot that I that I cannot"}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:04", "text": "that are in other people's fields who"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "have been on the ranch that we've"}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "witnessed. Um and even just some of the"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "things like some of the things I can"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "loosely talk about like seeing a UFO on"}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "the ranch is common place. I mean, I've"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "got footage that one day, and I did ask"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:19", "text": "Brandon if I could talk about this one,"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "but we were filming at the end of the"}, {"start": "00:20:19", "end": "00:20:22", "text": "day, and we had been in the river."}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "Everybody was exhausted. I mean, it was"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "it was like a million degrees all day,"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "humid, and we were just all dead. It's"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "the middle of the night, and we all have"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "to drive like a half an hour to get back"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:35", "text": "into town. And um I I look over, I'm"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "like, \"You guys, there's there's a UFO.\""}, {"start": "00:20:35", "end": "00:20:37", "text": "And I'm talking to the film crew. Do you"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "guys want to film this?"}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:41", "text": ">> What do you What do you mean by UFO? It"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "it came over a big bright orb, not"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "distant, like big enough, way bigger"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:47", "text": "than a star or the space station or"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "something bigger than that. Um, and it"}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:53", "text": "came over and um to the west from from"}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "the west and it came over and it was"}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "kind of like"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "hovering, you know, being in place,"}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:21:00", "text": "moving. And I'm like, \"You guys, you"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "want to film that?\" And they're like,"}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "\"No, we're just\" I'm like, \"I I you"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "know, I mean, UFO.\" And they're like,"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "\"Ah, it's okay.\" So I I grabbed a couple"}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "shots and grabbed a little footage of"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:13", "text": "it. It's like it's that common place on"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "the ranch to have something come over."}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "And so usually they only document it."}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "And I mean it's always documented like"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "there's cameras 24/7. U but as far as"}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:26", "text": "the boots on the ground if if it's not"}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:28", "text": "part of an experiment it might not get"}, {"start": "00:21:26", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "the attention it deserves."}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:32", "text": ">> So you saying that there's like this"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "whole catalog of anomalous UAP footage"}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "that they're not releasing?"}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:36", "text": ">> It just hasn't been gone through. hasn't"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "been gone through. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And"}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:41", "text": "so now they have like the Skinwalker"}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "Ranch insiders where people can help,"}, {"start": "00:21:41", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "you know, can sign up and can help go"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "through some of the footage real time."}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:48", "text": "Um, which has been kind of nice because"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:49", "text": "people will find stuff and then they'll"}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "bring it up to some of us on the team"}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "and say, \"What do you think about this?\""}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "So, because there's just so much going"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "on."}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:58", "text": ">> You you had alluded to government"}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "involvement uh limited government"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "involvement or at least interest still"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "in the ranch. Have you have you"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "witnessed any of that? Uh they told me"}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "when I first started they said hey"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:10", "text": "officially the government isn't"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "officially involved but they are still"}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "interested both behind the scenes and in"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:17", "text": "front of the scenes and you know Travis"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:19", "text": "Taylor is was on the UAP task force and"}, {"start": "00:22:17", "end": "00:22:20", "text": "it's like and he even reported some of"}, {"start": "00:22:19", "end": "00:22:23", "text": "the anomalies back to the government"}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "broken NDA because of this might be a"}, {"start": "00:22:23", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "national security issue. So, but they"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:29", "text": "told me when I started, they said, \"Hey,"}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:31", "text": "just be aware. Um, it's possible that,"}, {"start": "00:22:29", "end": "00:22:33", "text": "you know, you might have the government"}, {"start": "00:22:31", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "listening to your phone calls or check"}, {"start": "00:22:33", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "or checking your emails. So, just be"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "careful what you say. Um, you know,"}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "follow your NDAs that you've signed.\""}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "Um, so they were casual about it. That"}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:44", "text": "wasn't like a threat or a warning, but"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:46", "text": "they said, you know, and we've seen on"}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "the ranch, I mean, the government will"}, {"start": "00:22:46", "end": "00:22:50", "text": "fly over. The government has done grids."}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:50", "text": "We've seen with airplanes over the ranch"}, {"start": "00:22:50", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "and"}, {"start": "00:22:50", "end": "00:22:55", "text": ">> helicopters. Helicopters coming in."}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:57", "text": "Yeah. and and Blackhawk helicopters"}, {"start": "00:22:55", "end": "00:22:59", "text": "coming in and then even when you have"}, {"start": "00:22:57", "end": "00:23:01", "text": "congressmen in Utah trying to follow up"}, {"start": "00:22:59", "end": "00:23:03", "text": "on it can't get direct answers. It's"}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "like you should be able to get direct"}, {"start": "00:23:03", "end": "00:23:07", "text": "answer about that. Do you think Brandon"}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:09", "text": "is involved at that level? Like I mean"}, {"start": "00:23:07", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "obviously he you know he owns the place"}, {"start": "00:23:09", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "he's got a lot of money. Um do you think"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:15", "text": "someone like him would be regularly"}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "debriefing some faction of the"}, {"start": "00:23:15", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "government? He he tells them he is he"}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:22", "text": "Brandon is the coolest guy on earth. He"}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:25", "text": "is so he is such an awesome guy and he's"}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "sincere. He's he's intelligent and he"}, {"start": "00:23:25", "end": "00:23:28", "text": "works his butt off more than anybody I"}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:30", "text": "know. He's actually passionate about"}, {"start": "00:23:28", "end": "00:23:32", "text": "real estate like legitimately so."}, {"start": "00:23:30", "end": "00:23:34", "text": ">> He's a mogul in that field"}, {"start": "00:23:32", "end": "00:23:36", "text": ">> and he and he loves it. It's not about"}, {"start": "00:23:34", "end": "00:23:39", "text": "money. He loves doing that. And so this"}, {"start": "00:23:36", "end": "00:23:42", "text": "is his side thing that it's like I want"}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:44", "text": "answers and he really wants answers. And"}, {"start": "00:23:42", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "so he has really done a lot of"}, {"start": "00:23:44", "end": "00:23:47", "text": "networking getting certain government"}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:49", "text": "officials together and like look hey we"}, {"start": "00:23:47", "end": "00:23:51", "text": "need to be paying attention to this. we"}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:54", "text": "need to be addressing this. So, he's"}, {"start": "00:23:51", "end": "00:23:56", "text": "briefed people. I know he has, and he's"}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:23:58", "text": "been instrumental in trying to move this"}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:24:01", "text": "conversation forward, which I have the"}, {"start": "00:23:58", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "maddest respect for. I mean, that was at"}, {"start": "00:24:01", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "the potential risk of his career, you"}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "know,"}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:08", "text": ">> or or or more."}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:10", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. Um, you know,"}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:14", "text": ">> do you think though that like the"}, {"start": "00:24:10", "end": "00:24:16", "text": "involvement of the government is a"}, {"start": "00:24:14", "end": "00:24:19", "text": "net positive or a net negative? because"}, {"start": "00:24:16", "end": "00:24:21", "text": "it depends. You know, there are two"}, {"start": "00:24:19", "end": "00:24:23", "text": "sides to this. Some parts of the"}, {"start": "00:24:21", "end": "00:24:24", "text": "government seem like they can't wait to"}, {"start": "00:24:23", "end": "00:24:26", "text": "talk about it,"}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:28", "text": ">> but then you hear about the CD under"}, {"start": "00:24:26", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "side that kind of covers everything up."}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:31", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:34", "text": ">> Um do do you see a concern there?"}, {"start": "00:24:31", "end": "00:24:36", "text": ">> I had there might be I mean, we get our"}, {"start": "00:24:34", "end": "00:24:37", "text": "phones hacked while we're on the ranch."}, {"start": "00:24:36", "end": "00:24:38", "text": "You'll just be sitting there and all a"}, {"start": "00:24:37", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "sudden something opens up your phone."}, {"start": "00:24:38", "end": "00:24:42", "text": "It's like going through everything. Oh"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:44", "text": "yeah, that happens to everybody on the"}, {"start": "00:24:42", "end": "00:24:46", "text": "ranch. And some people it ruins their"}, {"start": "00:24:44", "end": "00:24:48", "text": "phones. I've had my iPhone hacked twice."}, {"start": "00:24:46", "end": "00:24:51", "text": "I've never had it. But is that the"}, {"start": "00:24:48", "end": "00:24:53", "text": "phenomenon or is that our government? Is"}, {"start": "00:24:51", "end": "00:24:54", "text": "that another government? I don't know."}, {"start": "00:24:53", "end": "00:24:56", "text": "We've had audio things happen where"}, {"start": "00:24:54", "end": "00:24:58", "text": "we're just sitting there and all of a"}, {"start": "00:24:56", "end": "00:25:00", "text": "sudden you hear like a double echo"}, {"start": "00:24:58", "end": "00:25:02", "text": "coming back over all around the room and"}, {"start": "00:25:00", "end": "00:25:04", "text": "it's like it's like, okay, well clearly"}, {"start": "00:25:02", "end": "00:25:06", "text": "somebody's tapping in and recording."}, {"start": "00:25:04", "end": "00:25:08", "text": "Maybe it's like the NSA kind of thing. I"}, {"start": "00:25:06", "end": "00:25:11", "text": "don't know. Um and maybe it's the"}, {"start": "00:25:08", "end": "00:25:15", "text": "phenomenon doing it. I don't know that."}, {"start": "00:25:11", "end": "00:25:16", "text": "But I I I think the the government I"}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:19", "text": "don't know for sure. This is"}, {"start": "00:25:16", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "speculation. I I get the impression"}, {"start": "00:25:19", "end": "00:25:22", "text": "that, you know, the government did a lot"}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:24", "text": "of work in the '90s and now that"}, {"start": "00:25:22", "end": "00:25:26", "text": "Brandon's here and trying to do work and"}, {"start": "00:25:24", "end": "00:25:27", "text": "is answering to the government and"}, {"start": "00:25:26", "end": "00:25:29", "text": "getting the government involved, I think"}, {"start": "00:25:27", "end": "00:25:30", "text": "the government's like, well, hey, let's"}, {"start": "00:25:29", "end": "00:25:31", "text": "just from the sidelines, let them do the"}, {"start": "00:25:30", "end": "00:25:33", "text": "work."}, {"start": "00:25:31", "end": "00:25:35", "text": ">> Sure. Yeah. Just costing us nothing."}, {"start": "00:25:33", "end": "00:25:37", "text": ">> Yeah. Good point. Okay. Let's get back"}, {"start": "00:25:35", "end": "00:25:41", "text": "to some of the stuff you are allowed to"}, {"start": "00:25:37", "end": "00:25:43", "text": "talk about. Okay. um and some of these"}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:45", "text": "more bizarre cases involving mammals."}, {"start": "00:25:43", "end": "00:25:48", "text": "So, we've gone through the fowl, we've"}, {"start": "00:25:45", "end": "00:25:49", "text": "gone through the rabbit."}, {"start": "00:25:48", "end": "00:25:53", "text": "What's what's next on this channel?"}, {"start": "00:25:49", "end": "00:25:54", "text": ">> So, cattle um the cattle are so cattle"}, {"start": "00:25:53", "end": "00:25:55", "text": "mutilations."}, {"start": "00:25:54", "end": "00:25:56", "text": ">> Well, before we get to cattle, like"}, {"start": "00:25:55", "end": "00:25:57", "text": "we're working our way up. All right."}, {"start": "00:25:56", "end": "00:26:02", "text": ">> There was a wolf."}, {"start": "00:25:57", "end": "00:26:08", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. So, um so that Well, there"}, {"start": "00:26:02", "end": "00:26:13", "text": "involves a cow, too. Um, so, um, so"}, {"start": "00:26:08", "end": "00:26:14", "text": "on daylight cameras, a UFO on on what we"}, {"start": "00:26:13", "end": "00:26:17", "text": "call the path of the skinwalker. This"}, {"start": "00:26:14", "end": "00:26:19", "text": "north a south running line where all"}, {"start": "00:26:17", "end": "00:26:21", "text": "these anomalous things always happen"}, {"start": "00:26:19", "end": "00:26:22", "text": "along this fence line. UFO shows up."}, {"start": "00:26:21", "end": "00:26:26", "text": "There's a cow in the shade underneath"}, {"start": "00:26:22", "end": "00:26:28", "text": "and buckles and dies. UFO goes away."}, {"start": "00:26:26", "end": "00:26:30", "text": "This is season one of the TV show. It's"}, {"start": "00:26:28", "end": "00:26:32", "text": "like, why aren't we talking about this"}, {"start": "00:26:30", "end": "00:26:33", "text": "all the time? They brought me in, I"}, {"start": "00:26:32", "end": "00:26:36", "text": "don't know, a few weeks, a month later,"}, {"start": "00:26:33", "end": "00:26:38", "text": "and that thing had contorted in what we"}, {"start": "00:26:36", "end": "00:26:40", "text": "call the dinosaur death post. Normally a"}, {"start": "00:26:38", "end": "00:26:42", "text": "mammal when they die, they go into the"}, {"start": "00:26:40", "end": "00:26:44", "text": "fetal position. You know, they the"}, {"start": "00:26:42", "end": "00:26:47", "text": "tendons dry out this way. This thing"}, {"start": "00:26:44", "end": "00:26:50", "text": "went spiraled all crazy. Um, so they"}, {"start": "00:26:47", "end": "00:26:52", "text": "brought me out and I found that"}, {"start": "00:26:50", "end": "00:26:56", "text": "something had bit with its tooth through"}, {"start": "00:26:52", "end": "00:26:59", "text": "one of the ribs and I took that rib and"}, {"start": "00:26:56", "end": "00:27:02", "text": "measured it and it matched up to either"}, {"start": "00:26:59", "end": "00:27:03", "text": "a dire wolf or a jaguar. I checked a"}, {"start": "00:27:02", "end": "00:27:05", "text": "whole bunch of teeth. Now, it doesn't"}, {"start": "00:27:03", "end": "00:27:07", "text": "mean that's what it is, but I just said,"}, {"start": "00:27:05", "end": "00:27:08", "text": "\"Okay, it doesn't match a regular wolf."}, {"start": "00:27:07", "end": "00:27:09", "text": "Doesn't match coyote. Doesn't match"}, {"start": "00:27:08", "end": "00:27:12", "text": ">> bigger than a regular wolf."}, {"start": "00:27:09", "end": "00:27:15", "text": ">> Bigger than regular wolf.\" And I took a"}, {"start": "00:27:12", "end": "00:27:17", "text": "rib and went and tested through and and"}, {"start": "00:27:15", "end": "00:27:19", "text": "took the next rib over and tested like"}, {"start": "00:27:17", "end": "00:27:20", "text": "bite force and even with a black bear"}, {"start": "00:27:19", "end": "00:27:22", "text": "tooth and even that it shattered. So"}, {"start": "00:27:20", "end": "00:27:24", "text": "whatever it was had a lot of power"}, {"start": "00:27:22", "end": "00:27:26", "text": "because normally carnivores if they're"}, {"start": "00:27:24", "end": "00:27:28", "text": "going to bite a rib they use their"}, {"start": "00:27:26", "end": "00:27:29", "text": "mullers and they bite off a side to get"}, {"start": "00:27:28", "end": "00:27:32", "text": "the marrow and they'll chomp chomp"}, {"start": "00:27:29", "end": "00:27:34", "text": "chomp. They don't use front canines."}, {"start": "00:27:32", "end": "00:27:36", "text": "They that's going to break them. So it"}, {"start": "00:27:34", "end": "00:27:39", "text": "bits clean through poked it right"}, {"start": "00:27:36", "end": "00:27:41", "text": "through made a concordial fracture. And"}, {"start": "00:27:39", "end": "00:27:43", "text": "so from that we had this thought, oh it"}, {"start": "00:27:41", "end": "00:27:47", "text": "could, you know, probably not a"}, {"start": "00:27:43", "end": "00:27:49", "text": "direwolf, but okay. But then people even"}, {"start": "00:27:47", "end": "00:27:52", "text": "from the Sherman era in the '90s claimed"}, {"start": "00:27:49", "end": "00:27:54", "text": "that they had seen these big giant"}, {"start": "00:27:52", "end": "00:27:56", "text": "wolves and that they had attacked things"}, {"start": "00:27:54", "end": "00:27:57", "text": "and, you know, had attacked the dogs on"}, {"start": "00:27:56", "end": "00:27:59", "text": "the ranch and stuff."}, {"start": "00:27:57", "end": "00:28:01", "text": ">> It was the original sort of depiction of"}, {"start": "00:27:59", "end": "00:28:02", "text": "a skinw walker itself was like this half"}, {"start": "00:28:01", "end": "00:28:04", "text": "man, halfwolf type."}, {"start": "00:28:02", "end": "00:28:06", "text": ">> Yeah. Like shape shifter kind of thing."}, {"start": "00:28:04", "end": "00:28:09", "text": "Yeah. This big giant wolves. And on the"}, {"start": "00:28:06", "end": "00:28:12", "text": "ranch, same thing. They were telling me"}, {"start": "00:28:09", "end": "00:28:13", "text": "like in the '9s there was more of there"}, {"start": "00:28:12", "end": "00:28:15", "text": "was a couple stories of kind of like"}, {"start": "00:28:13", "end": "00:28:18", "text": "dinosaur like things like velociaptor"}, {"start": "00:28:15", "end": "00:28:20", "text": "type things that people said but there"}, {"start": "00:28:18", "end": "00:28:22", "text": "was a lot more of mammals and they said"}, {"start": "00:28:20", "end": "00:28:25", "text": "oh yeah there's like a there's a dino"}, {"start": "00:28:22", "end": "00:28:26", "text": "beaver they said they saw and they were"}, {"start": "00:28:25", "end": "00:28:28", "text": "laughing about it. I'm like well what do"}, {"start": "00:28:26", "end": "00:28:30", "text": "you mean like a beaver like you know"}, {"start": "00:28:28", "end": "00:28:32", "text": "like 300 lb and I said well we had those"}, {"start": "00:28:30", "end": "00:28:34", "text": "here during the ice age 10,000 years ago"}, {"start": "00:28:32", "end": "00:28:35", "text": "and I had brought out a skull and showed"}, {"start": "00:28:34", "end": "00:28:37", "text": "them. I'm like here it is. It's"}, {"start": "00:28:35", "end": "00:28:38", "text": "casteries. This is giant. They're like,"}, {"start": "00:28:37", "end": "00:28:41", "text": "\"Wait, that was actually real?\" It's"}, {"start": "00:28:38", "end": "00:28:43", "text": "like, \"Yes.\" So the question, so a lot"}, {"start": "00:28:41", "end": "00:28:46", "text": "of these things that people were seeing"}, {"start": "00:28:43", "end": "00:28:47", "text": "seem to be ice age animals, which is the"}, {"start": "00:28:46", "end": "00:28:50", "text": "time right before us. We're still coming"}, {"start": "00:28:47", "end": "00:28:52", "text": "out of the ice age. So it's like, okay,"}, {"start": "00:28:50", "end": "00:28:54", "text": "well, did you see, you know, uh, is"}, {"start": "00:28:52", "end": "00:28:57", "text": "there a portal opening up that's letting"}, {"start": "00:28:54", "end": "00:28:58", "text": "these things through? So with the wolf,"}, {"start": "00:28:57", "end": "00:29:01", "text": "um, they were going along the river"}, {"start": "00:28:58", "end": "00:29:04", "text": "doing totally different experiment, and"}, {"start": "00:29:01", "end": "00:29:06", "text": "they found that it's it's painful to"}, {"start": "00:29:04", "end": "00:29:09", "text": "watch. They found this this thing and it"}, {"start": "00:29:06", "end": "00:29:14", "text": "it it had rotted properly even though it"}, {"start": "00:29:09", "end": "00:29:16", "text": "a wolf thing a canine for a canine had"}, {"start": "00:29:14", "end": "00:29:18", "text": "massive fangs oversized fangs and they"}, {"start": "00:29:16", "end": "00:29:20", "text": "said uh we ought to get this for Ben but"}, {"start": "00:29:18", "end": "00:29:21", "text": "it stinks so bad let's just hack off the"}, {"start": "00:29:20", "end": "00:29:23", "text": "jaw and bring it to Ben. So they showed"}, {"start": "00:29:21", "end": "00:29:26", "text": "it to me and I'm like oh my gosh I'm"}, {"start": "00:29:23", "end": "00:29:28", "text": "like go get the rest of it. Um and they"}, {"start": "00:29:26", "end": "00:29:30", "text": "went to get the rest of it. Most of it,"}, {"start": "00:29:28", "end": "00:29:31", "text": "the skull would wash down river. They"}, {"start": "00:29:30", "end": "00:29:34", "text": "got me the rest of the skeleton that"}, {"start": "00:29:31", "end": "00:29:36", "text": "they could get. But the jaw, I'm like,"}, {"start": "00:29:34", "end": "00:29:38", "text": "the number of teeth it has and the size"}, {"start": "00:29:36", "end": "00:29:41", "text": "and shape and the robustness matches a"}, {"start": "00:29:38", "end": "00:29:43", "text": "dire wolf. That doesn't mean that's what"}, {"start": "00:29:41", "end": "00:29:45", "text": "it is. But that's"}, {"start": "00:29:43", "end": "00:29:46", "text": ">> Yeah, we have a big wolf on our hands."}, {"start": "00:29:45", "end": "00:29:47", "text": ">> Big wolf on our hands that shouldn't be"}, {"start": "00:29:46", "end": "00:29:50", "text": "here. And"}, {"start": "00:29:47", "end": "00:29:52", "text": ">> did that match up to the bite marks?"}, {"start": "00:29:50", "end": "00:29:55", "text": ">> Uh, it did. It did. It was the same"}, {"start": "00:29:52", "end": "00:29:57", "text": "size, same shape. And so we're like,"}, {"start": "00:29:55", "end": "00:30:00", "text": "well, we can do a DNA test. So, we sent"}, {"start": "00:29:57", "end": "00:30:03", "text": "a a um DNA sample which to send the"}, {"start": "00:30:00", "end": "00:30:05", "text": "tooth to Colossal Bioscience, which is"}, {"start": "00:30:03", "end": "00:30:06", "text": "the leading, you know, uh genetics lab"}, {"start": "00:30:05", "end": "00:30:07", "text": "in the world right now. They're the ones"}, {"start": "00:30:06", "end": "00:30:08", "text": "bringing back"}, {"start": "00:30:07", "end": "00:30:09", "text": ">> the direwolf."}, {"start": "00:30:08", "end": "00:30:10", "text": ">> Mhm. Yeah. And they're working on"}, {"start": "00:30:09", "end": "00:30:11", "text": "bringing back mammoths and stuff."}, {"start": "00:30:10", "end": "00:30:13", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "00:30:11", "end": "00:30:15", "text": ">> And so they they and they have like"}, {"start": "00:30:13", "end": "00:30:17", "text": "every canine in the world. C"}, {"start": "00:30:15", "end": "00:30:19", "text": ">> When was this?"}, {"start": "00:30:17", "end": "00:30:19", "text": "Three years ago, maybe four. I don't"}, {"start": "00:30:19", "end": "00:30:21", "text": "know."}, {"start": "00:30:19", "end": "00:30:22", "text": ">> Okay. You weren't responsible for them"}, {"start": "00:30:21", "end": "00:30:25", "text": "bringing back the direwolf."}, {"start": "00:30:22", "end": "00:30:27", "text": ">> Not that I know of. Not that I know of."}, {"start": "00:30:25", "end": "00:30:29", "text": "You given them you gave them the DNA."}, {"start": "00:30:27", "end": "00:30:31", "text": ">> Yeah. They they say they have said that"}, {"start": "00:30:29", "end": "00:30:34", "text": "they have some other sources that it"}, {"start": "00:30:31", "end": "00:30:37", "text": "came from. So So you know, who knows,"}, {"start": "00:30:34", "end": "00:30:40", "text": "right? So, but when this when it came"}, {"start": "00:30:37", "end": "00:30:42", "text": "back, the results came back and this was"}, {"start": "00:30:40", "end": "00:30:44", "text": "it was funny cuz we were filming our"}, {"start": "00:30:42", "end": "00:30:48", "text": "response to it and we had the whole team"}, {"start": "00:30:44", "end": "00:30:51", "text": "on on it was like a big old call and"}, {"start": "00:30:48", "end": "00:30:53", "text": "Brandon was on and all of us were"}, {"start": "00:30:51", "end": "00:30:56", "text": "yelling and fighting and swearing not at"}, {"start": "00:30:53", "end": "00:30:59", "text": "each other but at science. We were angry"}, {"start": "00:30:56", "end": "00:31:00", "text": "about science about this and like the"}, {"start": "00:30:59", "end": "00:31:02", "text": "producers are like we should have just"}, {"start": "00:31:00", "end": "00:31:04", "text": "used this instead cuz this was like the"}, {"start": "00:31:02", "end": "00:31:06", "text": "most entertaining TV we've seen cuz we"}, {"start": "00:31:04", "end": "00:31:12", "text": "were so mad about. So the results came"}, {"start": "00:31:06", "end": "00:31:15", "text": "back and basically uh 90 89% basically"}, {"start": "00:31:12", "end": "00:31:19", "text": "90% of it is a non-existent wolf"}, {"start": "00:31:15", "end": "00:31:25", "text": "species. So the remaining 10%"}, {"start": "00:31:19", "end": "00:31:28", "text": "is um Eurasian greywolf and Greenland"}, {"start": "00:31:25", "end": "00:31:30", "text": "greywolf. Those do not live in Utah."}, {"start": "00:31:28", "end": "00:31:31", "text": "Those are not in the United States."}, {"start": "00:31:30", "end": "00:31:34", "text": "Though that alone should be a story,"}, {"start": "00:31:31", "end": "00:31:34", "text": "right? What's a Greenland? They're"}, {"start": "00:31:34", "end": "00:31:36", "text": "separated."}, {"start": "00:31:34", "end": "00:31:38", "text": ">> Yeah, that alone is anomalous."}, {"start": "00:31:36", "end": "00:31:40", "text": ">> So why are they there? But Colossal"}, {"start": "00:31:38", "end": "00:31:42", "text": "said, and I think they're trying to save"}, {"start": "00:31:40", "end": "00:31:44", "text": "their professionalism. They said, \"Well,"}, {"start": "00:31:42", "end": "00:31:46", "text": "from this we can, you know, confidently"}, {"start": "00:31:44", "end": "00:31:49", "text": "declare this as being a greywolf.\" And"}, {"start": "00:31:46", "end": "00:31:52", "text": "I'm like, 10% of it is a greywolf. What"}, {"start": "00:31:49", "end": "00:31:55", "text": "about the other 90%? 90% is the bulk of"}, {"start": "00:31:52", "end": "00:31:57", "text": "it. If your dog was 10% Chihuahua and"}, {"start": "00:31:55", "end": "00:31:59", "text": "the rest of it was wolf, you would say"}, {"start": "00:31:57", "end": "00:32:01", "text": "this is a wolf, right? You wouldn't say"}, {"start": "00:31:59", "end": "00:32:04", "text": "this is a Chihuahua. You know, it's like"}, {"start": "00:32:01", "end": "00:32:05", "text": "90% of this is a new wolf. Um, and they"}, {"start": "00:32:04", "end": "00:32:07", "text": "put it on their list and they just put"}, {"start": "00:32:05", "end": "00:32:08", "text": "it down as mystery."}, {"start": "00:32:07", "end": "00:32:09", "text": ">> They didn't want to declare it."}, {"start": "00:32:08", "end": "00:32:10", "text": ">> They didn't want to call it a direwolf."}, {"start": "00:32:09", "end": "00:32:12", "text": "They didn't want to call it anything"}, {"start": "00:32:10", "end": "00:32:15", "text": "else. And they they they even they have"}, {"start": "00:32:12", "end": "00:32:17", "text": "like every cane. They even have Papo and"}, {"start": "00:32:15", "end": "00:32:19", "text": "singing dogs genetically sequenced."}, {"start": "00:32:17", "end": "00:32:20", "text": ">> And then fast forward a few years later,"}, {"start": "00:32:19", "end": "00:32:21", "text": "they're making a direwolf."}, {"start": "00:32:20", "end": "00:32:22", "text": ">> Now they're making a direwolf. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:32:21", "end": "00:32:25", "text": ">> Seems a little suspicious."}, {"start": "00:32:22", "end": "00:32:28", "text": ">> It's It's suspicious. They they they say"}, {"start": "00:32:25", "end": "00:32:29", "text": "it's from some other sources, but um I"}, {"start": "00:32:28", "end": "00:32:30", "text": "don't I don't know because I'm on that"}, {"start": "00:32:29", "end": "00:32:32", "text": "end of things."}, {"start": "00:32:30", "end": "00:32:33", "text": ">> That's But I mean, that's a massive"}, {"start": "00:32:32", "end": "00:32:35", "text": "coincidence."}, {"start": "00:32:33", "end": "00:32:36", "text": ">> Yeah, it it's at least noteworthy. If"}, {"start": "00:32:35", "end": "00:32:38", "text": "nothing else, it's it's no"}, {"start": "00:32:36", "end": "00:32:41", "text": ">> definitely noteworthy. And again, the"}, {"start": "00:32:38", "end": "00:32:44", "text": "fact if you're saying this is just a"}, {"start": "00:32:41", "end": "00:32:46", "text": "greywolf, but only 10% of the DNA is a"}, {"start": "00:32:44", "end": "00:32:48", "text": "greywolf and it's greywolves that"}, {"start": "00:32:46", "end": "00:32:50", "text": "shouldn't be in Utah, you know, so what"}, {"start": "00:32:48", "end": "00:32:50", "text": "is this 90% what is this other wolf?"}, {"start": "00:32:50", "end": "00:32:52", "text": "That"}, {"start": "00:32:50", "end": "00:32:53", "text": ">> I mean, isn't that even more exciting"}, {"start": "00:32:52", "end": "00:32:55", "text": "than it being a direwolf?"}, {"start": "00:32:53", "end": "00:32:56", "text": ">> Especially for them to go, oh no, it's"}, {"start": "00:32:55", "end": "00:32:58", "text": "not a direwolf."}, {"start": "00:32:56", "end": "00:32:59", "text": ">> And then they immediately make a"}, {"start": "00:32:58", "end": "00:33:00", "text": "direwolf."}, {"start": "00:32:59", "end": "00:33:02", "text": ">> It's suspicious."}, {"start": "00:33:00", "end": "00:33:05", "text": ">> I mean, that suspicious to me to me"}, {"start": "00:33:02", "end": "00:33:07", "text": "would raise a few flags for sure."}, {"start": "00:33:05", "end": "00:33:10", "text": ">> Uh, okay. All right. Well, that's I mean"}, {"start": "00:33:07", "end": "00:33:12", "text": "incredibly anomalous and seems"}, {"start": "00:33:10", "end": "00:33:12", "text": "substantial and important."}, {"start": "00:33:12", "end": "00:33:14", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:33:12", "end": "00:33:18", "text": ">> Um and yet,"}, {"start": "00:33:14", "end": "00:33:20", "text": ">> you know, still not sufficient to say,"}, {"start": "00:33:18", "end": "00:33:23", "text": "oh, this is, you know, like we don't"}, {"start": "00:33:20", "end": "00:33:25", "text": "have we don't have any any uh provenence"}, {"start": "00:33:23", "end": "00:33:27", "text": "of this like where where do they come"}, {"start": "00:33:25", "end": "00:33:29", "text": "from? Is this a one-off somehow that"}, {"start": "00:33:27", "end": "00:33:32", "text": "survived? Is it a portal like you said?"}, {"start": "00:33:29", "end": "00:33:34", "text": "Is it, you know, um there's there's a"}, {"start": "00:33:32", "end": "00:33:38", "text": "lot of these speculative"}, {"start": "00:33:34", "end": "00:33:40", "text": "uh questions that occur around these"}, {"start": "00:33:38", "end": "00:33:42", "text": "anomalies that"}, {"start": "00:33:40", "end": "00:33:42", "text": ">> seem to go unanswered."}, {"start": "00:33:42", "end": "00:33:46", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:33:42", "end": "00:33:48", "text": ">> All right. Moving forward, we we now go"}, {"start": "00:33:46", "end": "00:33:50", "text": "to cattle, I guess, cuz we I mean, this"}, {"start": "00:33:48", "end": "00:33:52", "text": "is kind of related. It bit into one of"}, {"start": "00:33:50", "end": "00:33:54", "text": "these. Now, the cattle that it bit into,"}, {"start": "00:33:52", "end": "00:33:56", "text": "the cow that it bit into,"}, {"start": "00:33:54", "end": "00:33:57", "text": ">> that was the one that got killed by the"}, {"start": "00:33:56", "end": "00:34:00", "text": ">> UFO."}, {"start": "00:33:57", "end": "00:34:03", "text": "Yeah. On camera. And and this this"}, {"start": "00:34:00", "end": "00:34:03", "text": "footage exists. Have I seen this? Okay,"}, {"start": "00:34:03", "end": "00:34:05", "text": "I've probably seen this."}, {"start": "00:34:03", "end": "00:34:05", "text": ">> Season one. Season one."}, {"start": "00:34:05", "end": "00:34:07", "text": ">> Um"}, {"start": "00:34:05", "end": "00:34:09", "text": ">> and it's so far back so many other"}, {"start": "00:34:07", "end": "00:34:11", "text": "things happened. People are like, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "00:34:09", "end": "00:34:15", "text": "yeah. Wait, yeah, this did happen.\" See"}, {"start": "00:34:11", "end": "00:34:18", "text": "a UFO hover over a cow and kill it. It's"}, {"start": "00:34:15", "end": "00:34:20", "text": "like that's big. And but we've had other"}, {"start": "00:34:18", "end": "00:34:22", "text": "cattle, too. Like the the if you ever"}, {"start": "00:34:20", "end": "00:34:24", "text": "watch the show, there's this calf. And"}, {"start": "00:34:22", "end": "00:34:25", "text": "earlier in the day, it was fine. Uh"}, {"start": "00:34:24", "end": "00:34:27", "text": "Thomas Winterton saw it running around."}, {"start": "00:34:25", "end": "00:34:29", "text": "It was fine with all the other calves."}, {"start": "00:34:27", "end": "00:34:32", "text": "And then all of a sudden all the cattle"}, {"start": "00:34:29", "end": "00:34:35", "text": "just including its mother all back away"}, {"start": "00:34:32", "end": "00:34:38", "text": "on either side and it's running around"}, {"start": "00:34:35", "end": "00:34:39", "text": "in circles going crazy. And normally if"}, {"start": "00:34:38", "end": "00:34:41", "text": "that happens a mother is going to come"}, {"start": "00:34:39", "end": "00:34:43", "text": "along and like hey I'm here for you."}, {"start": "00:34:41", "end": "00:34:46", "text": "What's going on? And even the mother"}, {"start": "00:34:43", "end": "00:34:48", "text": "backed away. And um its eyes had wided"}, {"start": "00:34:46", "end": "00:34:50", "text": "over it. It its brain had been like"}, {"start": "00:34:48", "end": "00:34:52", "text": "scrambled. They got it off the ranch."}, {"start": "00:34:50", "end": "00:34:54", "text": "It's permanently blind now but it's"}, {"start": "00:34:52", "end": "00:34:55", "text": "okay. It's healthy. It's recovered. But"}, {"start": "00:34:54", "end": "00:34:58", "text": "they said it looked like something"}, {"start": "00:34:55", "end": "00:35:00", "text": "energetically had affected its brain,"}, {"start": "00:34:58", "end": "00:35:00", "text": "you know, like radiation of the brain or"}, {"start": "00:35:00", "end": "00:35:02", "text": "something."}, {"start": "00:35:00", "end": "00:35:03", "text": ">> Not mad cow disease or anything."}, {"start": "00:35:02", "end": "00:35:05", "text": ">> No, they tested they tested for"}, {"start": "00:35:03", "end": "00:35:07", "text": "everything they could and they said it's"}, {"start": "00:35:05", "end": "00:35:08", "text": "healthy once they got it off the ranch"}, {"start": "00:35:07", "end": "00:35:10", "text": "and it was healthier earlier in the day"}, {"start": "00:35:08", "end": "00:35:12", "text": "and all of a sudden just running around"}, {"start": "00:35:10", "end": "00:35:14", "text": "in circles."}, {"start": "00:35:12", "end": "00:35:16", "text": "So this other this other cow that that"}, {"start": "00:35:14", "end": "00:35:17", "text": "um had come up dead because of you know"}, {"start": "00:35:16", "end": "00:35:20", "text": "after"}, {"start": "00:35:17", "end": "00:35:23", "text": ">> the UFO had appeared and it sort of fell"}, {"start": "00:35:20", "end": "00:35:26", "text": "over and it was all contorted. Did it uh"}, {"start": "00:35:23", "end": "00:35:28", "text": "exhibit the same symptoms as some of the"}, {"start": "00:35:26", "end": "00:35:29", "text": "other smaller mammals in terms of like"}, {"start": "00:35:28", "end": "00:35:31", "text": "decomposing?"}, {"start": "00:35:29", "end": "00:35:34", "text": ">> Uh no with one exception. It seems like"}, {"start": "00:35:31", "end": "00:35:36", "text": "big animals do decompose. Like if we"}, {"start": "00:35:34", "end": "00:35:38", "text": "find a dead elk or a dead cow on the"}, {"start": "00:35:36", "end": "00:35:40", "text": "ranch, normally there's cattle that are"}, {"start": "00:35:38", "end": "00:35:41", "text": "mutilated on the ranch, but then you"}, {"start": "00:35:40", "end": "00:35:44", "text": "have the occasional cow that just seems"}, {"start": "00:35:41", "end": "00:35:47", "text": "to die. They do normally seem to"}, {"start": "00:35:44", "end": "00:35:50", "text": "decompose normally. The one that the UFO"}, {"start": "00:35:47", "end": "00:35:53", "text": "seemed to have killed that one, it did"}, {"start": "00:35:50", "end": "00:35:55", "text": "decompose normally except for there were"}, {"start": "00:35:53", "end": "00:35:57", "text": "no dermested beetles. So once you get to"}, {"start": "00:35:55", "end": "00:35:58", "text": "a certain level of decomposition,"}, {"start": "00:35:57", "end": "00:36:00", "text": ">> yeah, I don't care."}, {"start": "00:35:58", "end": "00:36:02", "text": ">> Small insects will take take control."}, {"start": "00:36:00", "end": "00:36:03", "text": "You put a chicken bone in your yard and"}, {"start": "00:36:02", "end": "00:36:04", "text": "within a week you're going to have"}, {"start": "00:36:03", "end": "00:36:06", "text": "domestic beetles that show up out of"}, {"start": "00:36:04", "end": "00:36:09", "text": "nowhere. There were no domestic beetles"}, {"start": "00:36:06", "end": "00:36:12", "text": "and there was some species of green"}, {"start": "00:36:09", "end": "00:36:14", "text": "shiny decomposing beetle that I had not"}, {"start": "00:36:12", "end": "00:36:17", "text": "until I researched it known that that"}, {"start": "00:36:14", "end": "00:36:19", "text": "species existed in Utah. But no dermests"}, {"start": "00:36:17", "end": "00:36:19", "text": "and there's dermestids on the ranch."}, {"start": "00:36:19", "end": "00:36:20", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:36:19", "end": "00:36:21", "text": ">> Um"}, {"start": "00:36:20", "end": "00:36:24", "text": ">> they would just avoid it. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:36:21", "end": "00:36:25", "text": ">> As well as I guess any other small"}, {"start": "00:36:24", "end": "00:36:28", "text": "critter."}, {"start": "00:36:25", "end": "00:36:31", "text": ">> Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. So it it seems like it"}, {"start": "00:36:28", "end": "00:36:33", "text": "did break down like the gastrointestinal"}, {"start": "00:36:31", "end": "00:36:36", "text": "bacteria did break that thing down but"}, {"start": "00:36:33", "end": "00:36:39", "text": "the spine just the tendons just"}, {"start": "00:36:36", "end": "00:36:41", "text": "contorted it in these weird and again we"}, {"start": "00:36:39", "end": "00:36:43", "text": "in paleontology and paleobiology call"}, {"start": "00:36:41", "end": "00:36:46", "text": "that the dinosaur death pose but the cow"}, {"start": "00:36:43", "end": "00:36:48", "text": "did that perfectly just like ah it's"}, {"start": "00:36:46", "end": "00:36:49", "text": "it's wild looking you see it I'll I'll"}, {"start": "00:36:48", "end": "00:36:51", "text": "send you pictures"}, {"start": "00:36:49", "end": "00:36:53", "text": ">> when you say a dinosaur death pose is"}, {"start": "00:36:51", "end": "00:36:54", "text": "that because of the fossils that we see"}, {"start": "00:36:53", "end": "00:36:56", "text": "of these like"}, {"start": "00:36:54", "end": "00:36:59", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. So the the tendons on"}, {"start": "00:36:56", "end": "00:37:02", "text": "dinosaurs and birds they con when when"}, {"start": "00:36:59", "end": "00:37:04", "text": "the tendons start to dry on birds and"}, {"start": "00:37:02", "end": "00:37:06", "text": "dinosaurs they contort this way. Mammals"}, {"start": "00:37:04", "end": "00:37:06", "text": "contort in the fetal position."}, {"start": "00:37:06", "end": "00:37:09", "text": ">> I see."}, {"start": "00:37:06", "end": "00:37:10", "text": ">> And the this cow contorted like a"}, {"start": "00:37:09", "end": "00:37:13", "text": "dinosaur."}, {"start": "00:37:10", "end": "00:37:15", "text": ">> Like a bird. Yeah. Like a bird."}, {"start": "00:37:13", "end": "00:37:17", "text": ">> Strange. What do you think? What do you"}, {"start": "00:37:15", "end": "00:37:19", "text": "speculate uh a human body would look"}, {"start": "00:37:17", "end": "00:37:20", "text": "like if it had a decomposed and"}, {"start": "00:37:19", "end": "00:37:23", "text": "skinwalker? And if"}, {"start": "00:37:20", "end": "00:37:24", "text": ">> perhaps one already has, you know, but"}, {"start": "00:37:23", "end": "00:37:26", "text": "obviously there's, you know, ancient"}, {"start": "00:37:24", "end": "00:37:29", "text": "burial grounds around there."}, {"start": "00:37:26", "end": "00:37:32", "text": ">> But what what would your suspicion be?"}, {"start": "00:37:29", "end": "00:37:34", "text": ">> Um, I don't know. But my question is, do"}, {"start": "00:37:32", "end": "00:37:36", "text": "these things do these things because"}, {"start": "00:37:34", "end": "00:37:37", "text": "they're on the ranch or because they're"}, {"start": "00:37:36", "end": "00:37:37", "text": "from the ranch?"}, {"start": "00:37:37", "end": "00:37:39", "text": ">> I see."}, {"start": "00:37:37", "end": "00:37:40", "text": ">> So, what I want to do a test of is like"}, {"start": "00:37:39", "end": "00:37:42", "text": "I don't bring out like a fryer chicken"}, {"start": "00:37:40", "end": "00:37:43", "text": "and put it out there and see how does"}, {"start": "00:37:42", "end": "00:37:45", "text": "that decompose"}, {"start": "00:37:43", "end": "00:37:46", "text": ">> and then bring one from there and have"}, {"start": "00:37:45", "end": "00:37:48", "text": "it die somewhere else."}, {"start": "00:37:46", "end": "00:37:50", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. Has that not been done? Have"}, {"start": "00:37:48", "end": "00:37:52", "text": "you guys not uh imported any dead bodies"}, {"start": "00:37:50", "end": "00:37:53", "text": "into the ranch? I feel like that's like"}, {"start": "00:37:52", "end": "00:37:53", "text": "an oversight. I feel like you guys"}, {"start": "00:37:53", "end": "00:37:56", "text": "should be"}, {"start": "00:37:53", "end": "00:37:58", "text": ">> It's more just busy. Um just normally"}, {"start": "00:37:56", "end": "00:37:59", "text": "that's on the list of things to do."}, {"start": "00:37:58", "end": "00:38:01", "text": "That's been on the list for 3 years, but"}, {"start": "00:37:59", "end": "00:38:02", "text": "that is something we want to do some"}, {"start": "00:38:01", "end": "00:38:05", "text": "on-site. Um same thing with some"}, {"start": "00:38:02", "end": "00:38:07", "text": "mushroom um experiments. We're going to"}, {"start": "00:38:05", "end": "00:38:08", "text": "do growing mycelium on there and"}, {"start": "00:38:07", "end": "00:38:10", "text": "different things and microbes, you know,"}, {"start": "00:38:08", "end": "00:38:12", "text": "take microbes on the ranch, grow them"}, {"start": "00:38:10", "end": "00:38:15", "text": "off, take off the ranch, grow them on."}, {"start": "00:38:12", "end": "00:38:16", "text": "Uh, but it's just so busy, you know,"}, {"start": "00:38:15", "end": "00:38:18", "text": "when they and and when they're doing the"}, {"start": "00:38:16", "end": "00:38:22", "text": "filming, you know, we're usually focused"}, {"start": "00:38:18", "end": "00:38:24", "text": "on big end things and so it's just"}, {"start": "00:38:22", "end": "00:38:25", "text": "finding time to fit the small stuff in,"}, {"start": "00:38:24", "end": "00:38:26", "text": ">> I suppose. Yeah, it's exciting and"}, {"start": "00:38:25", "end": "00:38:29", "text": "there's a lot of things to do. A lot of"}, {"start": "00:38:26", "end": "00:38:31", "text": "hands in the pot as well, you know, from"}, {"start": "00:38:29", "end": "00:38:33", "text": "again from people studying the science,"}, {"start": "00:38:31", "end": "00:38:35", "text": "the physics, the archaeology, the the"}, {"start": "00:38:33", "end": "00:38:38", "text": "landscape, the I mean there's there's"}, {"start": "00:38:35", "end": "00:38:42", "text": "lots to there's lots to look at."}, {"start": "00:38:38", "end": "00:38:46", "text": ">> Mhm. Um, in terms of animals, there are"}, {"start": "00:38:42", "end": "00:38:48", "text": "some other anomalous uh stories. Uh, one"}, {"start": "00:38:46", "end": "00:38:49", "text": "that you sort of told me over breakfast"}, {"start": "00:38:48", "end": "00:38:50", "text": "about a falcon."}, {"start": "00:38:49", "end": "00:38:54", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:38:50", "end": "00:38:54", "text": ">> Can you tell me about that?"}, {"start": "00:38:54", "end": "00:38:57", "text": ">> You know, I always find it funny when"}, {"start": "00:38:56", "end": "00:39:00", "text": "people get worried about secret"}, {"start": "00:38:57", "end": "00:39:03", "text": "government files while simultaneously"}, {"start": "00:39:00", "end": "00:39:05", "text": "they post their entire lives online for"}, {"start": "00:39:03", "end": "00:39:07", "text": "free. And meanwhile, there are companies"}, {"start": "00:39:05", "end": "00:39:09", "text": "out there that know your home address,"}, {"start": "00:39:07", "end": "00:39:11", "text": "where you live, your phone number, your"}, {"start": "00:39:09", "end": "00:39:14", "text": "relatives, and and even past addresses"}, {"start": "00:39:11", "end": "00:39:16", "text": "and relationships. And those companies,"}, {"start": "00:39:14", "end": "00:39:18", "text": "they're data brokers. Their whole"}, {"start": "00:39:16", "end": "00:39:20", "text": "business is collecting your personal"}, {"start": "00:39:18", "end": "00:39:22", "text": "information and selling it quietly and"}, {"start": "00:39:20", "end": "00:39:24", "text": "constantly. Not the cool kind of"}, {"start": "00:39:22", "end": "00:39:28", "text": "mysterious hacker in a basement, but"}, {"start": "00:39:24", "end": "00:39:29", "text": "more like spreadsheets full of your life"}, {"start": "00:39:28", "end": "00:39:33", "text": "getting passed around like trading"}, {"start": "00:39:29", "end": "00:39:35", "text": "cards. That's why I use Incogn. Secogni"}, {"start": "00:39:33", "end": "00:39:37", "text": "contacts data brokers on your behalf and"}, {"start": "00:39:35", "end": "00:39:40", "text": "requests that your personal information"}, {"start": "00:39:37", "end": "00:39:41", "text": "be removed from their databases. So"}, {"start": "00:39:40", "end": "00:39:43", "text": "instead of you trying to hunt these"}, {"start": "00:39:41", "end": "00:39:45", "text": "companies down like some type of digital"}, {"start": "00:39:43", "end": "00:39:48", "text": "bounty hunter and Cognney handles that"}, {"start": "00:39:45", "end": "00:39:50", "text": "request and keeps following up, which is"}, {"start": "00:39:48", "end": "00:39:52", "text": "great because I already spent enough"}, {"start": "00:39:50", "end": "00:39:53", "text": "time going down rabbit holes online. I"}, {"start": "00:39:52", "end": "00:39:56", "text": "don't need a side quest trying to remove"}, {"start": "00:39:53", "end": "00:39:58", "text": "my phone number from 47 websites. If you"}, {"start": "00:39:56", "end": "00:40:02", "text": "want to take back some control over your"}, {"start": "00:39:58", "end": "00:40:05", "text": "data, go to incogn.com/eria52"}, {"start": "00:40:02", "end": "00:40:07", "text": "and use code area52 to save 60% on an"}, {"start": "00:40:05", "end": "00:40:10", "text": "annual plan because your privacy should"}, {"start": "00:40:07", "end": "00:40:12", "text": "not be declassified. Yeah. So, we wanted"}, {"start": "00:40:10", "end": "00:40:14", "text": "to bring some bioindicator species and"}, {"start": "00:40:12", "end": "00:40:17", "text": "we're very cautious about this and some"}, {"start": "00:40:14", "end": "00:40:19", "text": "people immediately attack and say, \"How"}, {"start": "00:40:17", "end": "00:40:21", "text": "dare you bring animals onto the ranch?\""}, {"start": "00:40:19", "end": "00:40:23", "text": "And that's dangerous. It's like, well,"}, {"start": "00:40:21", "end": "00:40:25", "text": "humans are animals and we're on the"}, {"start": "00:40:23", "end": "00:40:27", "text": "ranch and there's wild animals on the"}, {"start": "00:40:25", "end": "00:40:29", "text": "ranch, too. So in one sense it's sixes."}, {"start": "00:40:27", "end": "00:40:31", "text": "We're all at risk, right? But we're very"}, {"start": "00:40:29", "end": "00:40:34", "text": "cautious about it. Uh so first I brought"}, {"start": "00:40:31", "end": "00:40:37", "text": "on owls. I brought a great horn owl and"}, {"start": "00:40:34", "end": "00:40:39", "text": "some barn owls and they would see owls"}, {"start": "00:40:37", "end": "00:40:40", "text": "have threedimensional hearing. Their"}, {"start": "00:40:39", "end": "00:40:42", "text": "ears, one's pointed up, one's pointed"}, {"start": "00:40:40", "end": "00:40:44", "text": "down. These things aren't the ears. The"}, {"start": "00:40:42", "end": "00:40:45", "text": "ears are openings under the feathers."}, {"start": "00:40:44", "end": "00:40:46", "text": "And they have so they have"}, {"start": "00:40:45", "end": "00:40:49", "text": "three-dimensional hearing. We'd bring"}, {"start": "00:40:46", "end": "00:40:51", "text": "them on the ranch and they'd"}, {"start": "00:40:49", "end": "00:40:53", "text": "bob and they just like they're focusing"}, {"start": "00:40:51", "end": "00:40:55", "text": "in on things that were not there. when"}, {"start": "00:40:53", "end": "00:40:58", "text": "we're out in the helicopter field and"}, {"start": "00:40:55", "end": "00:41:01", "text": "the uh the east field, they would just"}, {"start": "00:40:58", "end": "00:41:02", "text": "like and we just documented them seeing"}, {"start": "00:41:01", "end": "00:41:04", "text": "things. So, I'm going to bring an owl"}, {"start": "00:41:02", "end": "00:41:06", "text": "out again this year. Uh then we said,"}, {"start": "00:41:04", "end": "00:41:09", "text": "well, let's try flying some falcons. So,"}, {"start": "00:41:06", "end": "00:41:13", "text": "we brought out a couple paragan falcons"}, {"start": "00:41:09", "end": "00:41:16", "text": "and they each had on a radio transmitter"}, {"start": "00:41:13", "end": "00:41:18", "text": "and a three-dimensional GPS transmitter."}, {"start": "00:41:16", "end": "00:41:20", "text": "So, two different totally different ways"}, {"start": "00:41:18", "end": "00:41:21", "text": "of measuring things. So, we first went"}, {"start": "00:41:20", "end": "00:41:24", "text": "and we're like, let's fly through the"}, {"start": "00:41:21", "end": "00:41:25", "text": "triangle. So Eric and I went up on the"}, {"start": "00:41:24", "end": "00:41:27", "text": "hill and there the triangle is this"}, {"start": "00:41:25", "end": "00:41:29", "text": "anomalous zone on the ranch where crazy"}, {"start": "00:41:27", "end": "00:41:32", "text": "things happen. So I had my friend down"}, {"start": "00:41:29", "end": "00:41:35", "text": "below calling the falcon in. And while"}, {"start": "00:41:32", "end": "00:41:37", "text": "Eric and I were on the hill, the 3D GPS"}, {"start": "00:41:35", "end": "00:41:39", "text": "says we're bouncing up in the air and"}, {"start": "00:41:37", "end": "00:41:41", "text": "jumping all over the place and we're"}, {"start": "00:41:39", "end": "00:41:43", "text": "just standing there and so it's already"}, {"start": "00:41:41", "end": "00:41:46", "text": "wigging out. When the bird flew through"}, {"start": "00:41:43", "end": "00:41:50", "text": "the triangle, as it went through the"}, {"start": "00:41:46", "end": "00:41:53", "text": "triangle, the radio transmitter"}, {"start": "00:41:50", "end": "00:41:54", "text": "flared up both times. And then once the"}, {"start": "00:41:53", "end": "00:41:57", "text": "bird was on the ground, my buddy was"}, {"start": "00:41:54", "end": "00:41:59", "text": "picking it up. It said that he was like"}, {"start": "00:41:57", "end": "00:42:01", "text": "spock in fast motion, you know, just"}, {"start": "00:41:59", "end": "00:42:03", "text": "like and he was just sitting there. So"}, {"start": "00:42:01", "end": "00:42:05", "text": "we did that twice. I thought, \"Okay,"}, {"start": "00:42:03", "end": "00:42:07", "text": "that's kind of weird. Let's go to the"}, {"start": "00:42:05", "end": "00:42:09", "text": "eastfield.\" So we went to the eastfield."}, {"start": "00:42:07", "end": "00:42:10", "text": "We start flying the Falcon. It's flying"}, {"start": "00:42:09", "end": "00:42:12", "text": "up. It's doing good. We're like, \"Okay,"}, {"start": "00:42:10", "end": "00:42:15", "text": "this is interesting. Let's uh call it"}, {"start": "00:42:12", "end": "00:42:17", "text": "back down. It comes back down and we"}, {"start": "00:42:15", "end": "00:42:18", "text": "have a lure. It's like a fake bird. You"}, {"start": "00:42:17", "end": "00:42:21", "text": "swing around, you put it on the ground,"}, {"start": "00:42:18", "end": "00:42:24", "text": "the bird lands and you go pick him up."}, {"start": "00:42:21", "end": "00:42:26", "text": "So my buddy does that and right as it"}, {"start": "00:42:24", "end": "00:42:28", "text": "gets by the ground, it freaks out. It's"}, {"start": "00:42:26", "end": "00:42:29", "text": "like ah and it kind of like panics every"}, {"start": "00:42:28", "end": "00:42:32", "text": "time and goes back up a bit, goes to"}, {"start": "00:42:29", "end": "00:42:34", "text": "come back down. Something on the ground"}, {"start": "00:42:32", "end": "00:42:36", "text": "was repelling it. It was something"}, {"start": "00:42:34", "end": "00:42:38", "text": "repulsed it from going down. So it"}, {"start": "00:42:36", "end": "00:42:40", "text": "freaked out. It started going up, going"}, {"start": "00:42:38", "end": "00:42:43", "text": "up, going up. and got to about 800 feet"}, {"start": "00:42:40", "end": "00:42:46", "text": "and the GPS blips start missing. It's"}, {"start": "00:42:43", "end": "00:42:48", "text": "like beep beep beep beep beep and and"}, {"start": "00:42:46", "end": "00:42:51", "text": "keeps going up, keeps going up. We're"}, {"start": "00:42:48", "end": "00:42:53", "text": "filming, the TV crew is filming and all"}, {"start": "00:42:51", "end": "00:42:55", "text": "a sudden the bird disappears. We're"}, {"start": "00:42:53", "end": "00:42:58", "text": "like, my buddy's like, \"My falcon,"}, {"start": "00:42:55", "end": "00:43:00", "text": "where'd it go?\" And then on the GPS, it"}, {"start": "00:42:58", "end": "00:43:02", "text": "reappears over the triangle, which is"}, {"start": "00:43:00", "end": "00:43:03", "text": "about a mile away. And so we go running"}, {"start": "00:43:02", "end": "00:43:05", "text": "over there."}, {"start": "00:43:03", "end": "00:43:06", "text": ">> How long of a time between"}, {"start": "00:43:05", "end": "00:43:07", "text": "immediately?"}, {"start": "00:43:06", "end": "00:43:10", "text": ">> Impossible."}, {"start": "00:43:07", "end": "00:43:14", "text": ">> Impossible. And now the and when it"}, {"start": "00:43:10", "end": "00:43:17", "text": "disappeared, no GPS, no radio signal."}, {"start": "00:43:14", "end": "00:43:20", "text": "The second it reappears, the uh radio"}, {"start": "00:43:17", "end": "00:43:22", "text": "transmitter is working 100% correctly."}, {"start": "00:43:20", "end": "00:43:26", "text": "We can see the bird. Radio transmitter"}, {"start": "00:43:22", "end": "00:43:29", "text": "is working. The GPS is now mirroring the"}, {"start": "00:43:26", "end": "00:43:29", "text": "bird's motions, but it's in the wrong"}, {"start": "00:43:29", "end": "00:43:31", "text": "place."}, {"start": "00:43:29", "end": "00:43:34", "text": ">> It's in the wrong place. And when we got"}, {"start": "00:43:31", "end": "00:43:36", "text": "the bird back and pulled up the data, it"}, {"start": "00:43:34", "end": "00:43:39", "text": "says the bird went through the mesa."}, {"start": "00:43:36", "end": "00:43:41", "text": ">> Whoa. which is impossible. And it's"}, {"start": "00:43:39", "end": "00:43:44", "text": "important to note if you follow this"}, {"start": "00:43:41", "end": "00:43:46", "text": "stuff, if you watch the TV show where"}, {"start": "00:43:44", "end": "00:43:49", "text": "the bird went in the mesa, we have at"}, {"start": "00:43:46", "end": "00:43:52", "text": "night a a white orb that goes into the"}, {"start": "00:43:49", "end": "00:43:54", "text": "mesa at that same spot. And there's"}, {"start": "00:43:52", "end": "00:43:56", "text": "another season where Brandon's flying in"}, {"start": "00:43:54", "end": "00:43:59", "text": "the helicopter at sunset, still"}, {"start": "00:43:56", "end": "00:44:01", "text": "daylight, and a white orb comes out of"}, {"start": "00:43:59", "end": "00:44:03", "text": "the mesa below him. That is the same"}, {"start": "00:44:01", "end": "00:44:05", "text": "place where the falcon went in and where"}, {"start": "00:44:03", "end": "00:44:07", "text": "the falcon reappeared. So, you got to"}, {"start": "00:44:05", "end": "00:44:08", "text": "piece those things together. Maybe"}, {"start": "00:44:07", "end": "00:44:11", "text": "they're related, maybe they're not. The"}, {"start": "00:44:08", "end": "00:44:14", "text": "falcon 100% fine. It was kind of like,"}, {"start": "00:44:11", "end": "00:44:16", "text": "oh, a little alarmed, but it was fine,"}, {"start": "00:44:14", "end": "00:44:18", "text": "healthy. Birds alive and happy today,"}, {"start": "00:44:16", "end": "00:44:20", "text": "still being flown. That's incredible."}, {"start": "00:44:18", "end": "00:44:22", "text": "But that's impossible. They didn't put"}, {"start": "00:44:20", "end": "00:44:24", "text": "it on the show just because they"}, {"start": "00:44:22", "end": "00:44:25", "text": "sometimes you'll put it later on in the"}, {"start": "00:44:24", "end": "00:44:27", "text": "season or you'll put it in the next"}, {"start": "00:44:25", "end": "00:44:28", "text": "season and like, oh, I was this season."}, {"start": "00:44:27", "end": "00:44:31", "text": "But there were some people in those"}, {"start": "00:44:28", "end": "00:44:33", "text": "shots that aren't on the show anymore"}, {"start": "00:44:31", "end": "00:44:35", "text": "and so like, oh, well, now we can't do"}, {"start": "00:44:33", "end": "00:44:36", "text": "this. And I'm like, this is really"}, {"start": "00:44:35", "end": "00:44:37", "text": "important."}, {"start": "00:44:36", "end": "00:44:39", "text": ">> Yeah. should still be released. You"}, {"start": "00:44:37", "end": "00:44:41", "text": "don't have access to that footage."}, {"start": "00:44:39", "end": "00:44:44", "text": ">> I I have access to the GPS. I have the"}, {"start": "00:44:41", "end": "00:44:46", "text": "GPS data, which I have I'm I bet I can"}, {"start": "00:44:44", "end": "00:44:47", "text": "get permission to share that, but I"}, {"start": "00:44:46", "end": "00:44:49", "text": "haven't been given permission. I But I"}, {"start": "00:44:47", "end": "00:44:53", "text": "have I got Brandon gave me permission to"}, {"start": "00:44:49", "end": "00:44:55", "text": "share this story because I'm like, this"}, {"start": "00:44:53", "end": "00:44:56", "text": "needs to be out there. If it's never"}, {"start": "00:44:55", "end": "00:44:57", "text": "going to be on the show, the world needs"}, {"start": "00:44:56", "end": "00:44:59", "text": "to know that."}, {"start": "00:44:57", "end": "00:45:01", "text": ">> I mean, a teleporting bird is quite"}, {"start": "00:44:59", "end": "00:45:03", "text": "substantial, especially if you got it on"}, {"start": "00:45:01", "end": "00:45:06", "text": "camera disappearing and then reappearing"}, {"start": "00:45:03", "end": "00:45:08", "text": "elsewhere. You know, as a magician, I"}, {"start": "00:45:06", "end": "00:45:11", "text": "would uh you know, obviously, oh, it's"}, {"start": "00:45:08", "end": "00:45:12", "text": "just two identical birds,"}, {"start": "00:45:11", "end": "00:45:14", "text": ">> you know, it's the old twin trick, the"}, {"start": "00:45:12", "end": "00:45:17", "text": "old prestige illusion."}, {"start": "00:45:14", "end": "00:45:19", "text": ">> Well, and we had we also had when those"}, {"start": "00:45:17", "end": "00:45:22", "text": "of us cuz I was filming with my c Eric"}, {"start": "00:45:19", "end": "00:45:25", "text": "Bard was holding my phone and filming"}, {"start": "00:45:22", "end": "00:45:27", "text": "and a lot of us were hand filming and I"}, {"start": "00:45:25", "end": "00:45:29", "text": "I know a I don't remember who else's,"}, {"start": "00:45:27", "end": "00:45:32", "text": "but I know for sure my camera while it"}, {"start": "00:45:29", "end": "00:45:34", "text": "was filming just shut off and battery"}, {"start": "00:45:32", "end": "00:45:36", "text": "100% dead. And I know a couple other"}, {"start": "00:45:34", "end": "00:45:37", "text": "people were having issues while they"}, {"start": "00:45:36", "end": "00:45:39", "text": "were filming it right before the bird"}, {"start": "00:45:37", "end": "00:45:40", "text": "disappeared. So"}, {"start": "00:45:39", "end": "00:45:42", "text": ">> yeah, that seems to be part for the"}, {"start": "00:45:40", "end": "00:45:44", "text": "course there as well. It's just like"}, {"start": "00:45:42", "end": "00:45:47", "text": "phones scrambled like you said or"}, {"start": "00:45:44", "end": "00:45:47", "text": "uncharging or just shutting off or not"}, {"start": "00:45:47", "end": "00:45:48", "text": "working."}, {"start": "00:45:47", "end": "00:45:51", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:45:48", "end": "00:45:53", "text": ">> that's Yeah, very very strange. What are"}, {"start": "00:45:51", "end": "00:45:55", "text": "some of the other things that you were"}, {"start": "00:45:53", "end": "00:45:57", "text": "not allowed to talk about previously?"}, {"start": "00:45:55", "end": "00:45:59", "text": "Um,"}, {"start": "00:45:57", "end": "00:46:03", "text": "I mean, one of the one of the ones is"}, {"start": "00:45:59", "end": "00:46:06", "text": "there's there seems to be a jaguar on"}, {"start": "00:46:03", "end": "00:46:09", "text": "the ranch and we filmed it also. Um,"}, {"start": "00:46:06", "end": "00:46:12", "text": "which this brings up a lot of different"}, {"start": "00:46:09", "end": "00:46:14", "text": "points. So, jaguars were they ranged all"}, {"start": "00:46:12", "end": "00:46:15", "text": "the way to Canada during the ice age."}, {"start": "00:46:14", "end": "00:46:18", "text": "People think of a jaguar as being"}, {"start": "00:46:15", "end": "00:46:20", "text": "tropical or desert, uh, but they used to"}, {"start": "00:46:18", "end": "00:46:23", "text": "range all the way up north. And"}, {"start": "00:46:20", "end": "00:46:24", "text": "supposedly regular jaguars and the ice"}, {"start": "00:46:23", "end": "00:46:26", "text": "age jaguar, which both lived at the same"}, {"start": "00:46:24", "end": "00:46:28", "text": "time, now we only have the one"}, {"start": "00:46:26", "end": "00:46:31", "text": "supposedly. They shouldn't really be any"}, {"start": "00:46:28", "end": "00:46:34", "text": "further north than like Arizona. Um,"}, {"start": "00:46:31", "end": "00:46:37", "text": "barely, right? But we started seeing on"}, {"start": "00:46:34", "end": "00:46:40", "text": "the ranch, Utah is in a 25-y year"}, {"start": "00:46:37", "end": "00:46:42", "text": "drought. Um, it's just prey populations,"}, {"start": "00:46:40", "end": "00:46:44", "text": "animal populations are rock bottom. And"}, {"start": "00:46:42", "end": "00:46:46", "text": "all of the sudden on the ranch, all the"}, {"start": "00:46:44", "end": "00:46:49", "text": "populations started to explode. um"}, {"start": "00:46:46", "end": "00:46:51", "text": "feeasants, quail, magpies, ground"}, {"start": "00:46:49", "end": "00:46:53", "text": "squirrels, prairie dogs, jack rabbits,"}, {"start": "00:46:51", "end": "00:46:56", "text": "cottontails, turkeys just started to"}, {"start": "00:46:53", "end": "00:46:59", "text": "explode, which suggests that a carnivore"}, {"start": "00:46:56", "end": "00:47:03", "text": "that eats them like a coyote is being"}, {"start": "00:46:59", "end": "00:47:06", "text": "kicked out. And um we started to find"}, {"start": "00:47:03", "end": "00:47:07", "text": "these giant cat prints, which we just"}, {"start": "00:47:06", "end": "00:47:10", "text": "assumed, oh, it's a big cougar, you"}, {"start": "00:47:07", "end": "00:47:13", "text": "know, something like that. Um, but then"}, {"start": "00:47:10", "end": "00:47:16", "text": "we started also have scat samples uh"}, {"start": "00:47:13", "end": "00:47:19", "text": "that we took and they had coyote guard"}, {"start": "00:47:16", "end": "00:47:21", "text": "hairs in them and raccoons. So something"}, {"start": "00:47:19", "end": "00:47:23", "text": "is killing and eating coyotes and"}, {"start": "00:47:21", "end": "00:47:25", "text": "killing and eating raccoons. Now wolves"}, {"start": "00:47:23", "end": "00:47:26", "text": "don't eat coyotes, they kill them. It's"}, {"start": "00:47:25", "end": "00:47:28", "text": "kind of like you wouldn't eat a"}, {"start": "00:47:26", "end": "00:47:30", "text": "chimpanzeee. That would seem weird."}, {"start": "00:47:28", "end": "00:47:33", "text": "We're too closely related. It's kind of"}, {"start": "00:47:30", "end": "00:47:35", "text": "like it's eating a cousin, right? Wolves"}, {"start": "00:47:33", "end": "00:47:37", "text": "kill coyotes, but they don't eat them."}, {"start": "00:47:35", "end": "00:47:38", "text": "Whatever this is doing, it's killing and"}, {"start": "00:47:37", "end": "00:47:40", "text": "eating coyotes and killing and eating"}, {"start": "00:47:38", "end": "00:47:42", "text": "raccoons and hunting from the water."}, {"start": "00:47:40", "end": "00:47:46", "text": "It's going along the the little river"}, {"start": "00:47:42", "end": "00:47:50", "text": "there, which jaguars do. And then um we"}, {"start": "00:47:46", "end": "00:47:53", "text": "had uh the uh Caleb on the head of"}, {"start": "00:47:50", "end": "00:47:56", "text": "security there. He uh one of his friends"}, {"start": "00:47:53", "end": "00:47:59", "text": "just off the ranch filmed and I've got"}, {"start": "00:47:56", "end": "00:48:01", "text": "this footage of black jaguar and it's"}, {"start": "00:47:59", "end": "00:48:03", "text": "shiny. It's reflective. And I've gone to"}, {"start": "00:48:01", "end": "00:48:04", "text": "the site and checked the size and shape"}, {"start": "00:48:03", "end": "00:48:07", "text": "of all the bush there and everything."}, {"start": "00:48:04", "end": "00:48:10", "text": "It's like it's a daytime black jaguar"}, {"start": "00:48:07", "end": "00:48:12", "text": "just off the ranch. And it's like, okay,"}, {"start": "00:48:10", "end": "00:48:14", "text": "is this this it? Is this the big cat?"}, {"start": "00:48:12", "end": "00:48:17", "text": "Um, you would and people have said,"}, {"start": "00:48:14", "end": "00:48:20", "text": "well, if that's the case, okay, is this"}, {"start": "00:48:17", "end": "00:48:23", "text": "just a jaguar that's moved up north,"}, {"start": "00:48:20", "end": "00:48:25", "text": "really far north, or is this a portal"}, {"start": "00:48:23", "end": "00:48:28", "text": "opening up from the past? Is it a modern"}, {"start": "00:48:25", "end": "00:48:32", "text": "jaguar? Is it a prehistoric jaguar?"}, {"start": "00:48:28", "end": "00:48:34", "text": "Don't know. But it's that that should be"}, {"start": "00:48:32", "end": "00:48:36", "text": "far bigger news. And I I don't know why,"}, {"start": "00:48:34", "end": "00:48:37", "text": "but that is not catching. People are not"}, {"start": "00:48:36", "end": "00:48:38", "text": "talking about that. And it's like"}, {"start": "00:48:37", "end": "00:48:39", "text": ">> even if"}, {"start": "00:48:38", "end": "00:48:42", "text": ">> Well, because we have Jaguars."}, {"start": "00:48:39", "end": "00:48:43", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. So, it's"}, {"start": "00:48:42", "end": "00:48:46", "text": ">> unfortun Unfortunately,"}, {"start": "00:48:43", "end": "00:48:46", "text": ">> you know, you could take a Bengal tiger"}, {"start": "00:48:46", "end": "00:48:49", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:48:46", "end": "00:48:51", "text": ">> and and just drop it in central London"}, {"start": "00:48:49", "end": "00:48:52", "text": "and or you know what I mean? And people"}, {"start": "00:48:51", "end": "00:48:54", "text": "would be like, \"Wow, it's just"}, {"start": "00:48:52", "end": "00:48:57", "text": "somebody's pay.\""}, {"start": "00:48:54", "end": "00:48:59", "text": ">> You know, it it it wouldn't um the"}, {"start": "00:48:57", "end": "00:49:00", "text": "significance of it wouldn't resonate"}, {"start": "00:48:59", "end": "00:49:04", "text": "with most people, I think. And that and"}, {"start": "00:49:00", "end": "00:49:06", "text": "I think that's part of the issue with a"}, {"start": "00:49:04", "end": "00:49:07", "text": "lot of the scientific approach to the"}, {"start": "00:49:06", "end": "00:49:10", "text": "phenomenon itself because"}, {"start": "00:49:07", "end": "00:49:13", "text": ">> in a vacuum individually whether it's"}, {"start": "00:49:10", "end": "00:49:16", "text": "through geology, paleontology, ancient"}, {"start": "00:49:13", "end": "00:49:19", "text": "architecture, uh physics like all of"}, {"start": "00:49:16", "end": "00:49:24", "text": "these individual platforms"}, {"start": "00:49:19", "end": "00:49:27", "text": "will showcase highly anomalous and"}, {"start": "00:49:24", "end": "00:49:30", "text": "seemingly groundbreaking truths."}, {"start": "00:49:27", "end": "00:49:33", "text": "But to the general lay audience,"}, {"start": "00:49:30", "end": "00:49:35", "text": "it'll just seem like semantics or or or"}, {"start": "00:49:33", "end": "00:49:38", "text": "like, oh, it's this is just their jargon"}, {"start": "00:49:35", "end": "00:49:40", "text": "and it's not really relatable or"}, {"start": "00:49:38", "end": "00:49:42", "text": "translatable to the general populace,"}, {"start": "00:49:40", "end": "00:49:44", "text": "which is why, you know, I would I think"}, {"start": "00:49:42", "end": "00:49:45", "text": "they want to see a flying saucer. They"}, {"start": "00:49:44", "end": "00:49:46", "text": "want to see, you know, a little green"}, {"start": "00:49:45", "end": "00:49:47", "text": "man or whatever."}, {"start": "00:49:46", "end": "00:49:48", "text": ">> Um, but"}, {"start": "00:49:47", "end": "00:49:51", "text": ">> well, yeah. I mean, I always tell people"}, {"start": "00:49:48", "end": "00:49:53", "text": "I'm like, \"Hey, if a UFO comes over and"}, {"start": "00:49:51", "end": "00:49:57", "text": "lands and a little alien gets out and"}, {"start": "00:49:53", "end": "00:50:01", "text": "says, \"Hi, that's earthshattering, but"}, {"start": "00:49:57", "end": "00:50:03", "text": "it's not more profound than if you have"}, {"start": "00:50:01", "end": "00:50:05", "text": "decomposition halted, almost like the"}, {"start": "00:50:03", "end": "00:50:08", "text": "animal is suspended in time. It's like"}, {"start": "00:50:05", "end": "00:50:10", "text": "if you have no internal gastrointestinal"}, {"start": "00:50:08", "end": "00:50:12", "text": "bacteria doing anything, no external"}, {"start": "00:50:10", "end": "00:50:15", "text": "bacteria doing anything, rigamortis not"}, {"start": "00:50:12", "end": "00:50:17", "text": "setting in, no scavengers bothering it,"}, {"start": "00:50:15", "end": "00:50:19", "text": "that is breaking the known laws of"}, {"start": "00:50:17", "end": "00:50:22", "text": "nature and of physics. A UFO coming and"}, {"start": "00:50:19", "end": "00:50:24", "text": "saying hi is more amazing, but it's not"}, {"start": "00:50:22", "end": "00:50:26", "text": "more profound. You're not breaking"}, {"start": "00:50:24", "end": "00:50:28", "text": "anything. That's just whoa, right? You"}, {"start": "00:50:26", "end": "00:50:31", "text": "know, but yet I would I would rather see"}, {"start": "00:50:28", "end": "00:50:31", "text": "that. But this over here is actually far"}, {"start": "00:50:31", "end": "00:50:32", "text": "stranger,"}, {"start": "00:50:31", "end": "00:50:35", "text": ">> more significant."}, {"start": "00:50:32", "end": "00:50:36", "text": ">> Yeah. I mean it just it's we don't see"}, {"start": "00:50:35", "end": "00:50:36", "text": "it that way but that's how it actually"}, {"start": "00:50:36", "end": "00:50:39", "text": "is."}, {"start": "00:50:36", "end": "00:50:41", "text": ">> So like it's interesting too to think"}, {"start": "00:50:39", "end": "00:50:42", "text": "about this just because the the"}, {"start": "00:50:41", "end": "00:50:45", "text": "decomposition like you said right there"}, {"start": "00:50:42", "end": "00:50:47", "text": "something stuck with me that that it's"}, {"start": "00:50:45", "end": "00:50:48", "text": "paused almost like it's suspended in"}, {"start": "00:50:47", "end": "00:50:51", "text": "time."}, {"start": "00:50:48", "end": "00:50:53", "text": ">> Does that not also affect the living?"}, {"start": "00:50:51", "end": "00:50:56", "text": ">> We don't know. We have seen issues with"}, {"start": "00:50:53", "end": "00:50:58", "text": "time happen. Um that has been documented"}, {"start": "00:50:56", "end": "00:51:02", "text": "on the ranch and even on the show. Um"}, {"start": "00:50:58", "end": "00:51:03", "text": "small differentiations in time. uh that"}, {"start": "00:51:02", "end": "00:51:05", "text": "definitely have happened. There's kind"}, {"start": "00:51:03", "end": "00:51:07", "text": "of like a bubble over the ranch. They"}, {"start": "00:51:05", "end": "00:51:08", "text": "they called it the cone and then the"}, {"start": "00:51:07", "end": "00:51:11", "text": "dome and now they call it the bubble. So"}, {"start": "00:51:08", "end": "00:51:13", "text": "there's a region it's not quite a mile"}, {"start": "00:51:11", "end": "00:51:16", "text": "wide and it's not it doesn't stay. It"}, {"start": "00:51:13", "end": "00:51:19", "text": "kind of moves a little, you know, give"}, {"start": "00:51:16", "end": "00:51:22", "text": "or take 20 ft on either side. But what's"}, {"start": "00:51:19", "end": "00:51:24", "text": "really weird about this is for example"}, {"start": "00:51:22", "end": "00:51:25", "text": "like little things like ants. Who cares"}, {"start": "00:51:24", "end": "00:51:28", "text": "about ants? But yeah, these are"}, {"start": "00:51:25", "end": "00:51:31", "text": "bioindicator species. Outside of the"}, {"start": "00:51:28", "end": "00:51:33", "text": "bubble, antills normal. It's high piled"}, {"start": "00:51:31", "end": "00:51:35", "text": "up silica. Get rid of all the organics."}, {"start": "00:51:33", "end": "00:51:36", "text": "Get rid of the dust. It's only silica."}, {"start": "00:51:35", "end": "00:51:41", "text": "So, it's a big old solar panel. Warm up"}, {"start": "00:51:36", "end": "00:51:44", "text": "the colony at sunrise. Inside they make"}, {"start": "00:51:41", "end": "00:51:46", "text": "this I'll send you pictures. Inside it's"}, {"start": "00:51:44", "end": "00:51:48", "text": "this stupid thing. It's not It's got"}, {"start": "00:51:46", "end": "00:51:50", "text": "grass all around it. And in it, it's not"}, {"start": "00:51:48", "end": "00:51:52", "text": "even an ant colony. It doesn't look like"}, {"start": "00:51:50", "end": "00:51:55", "text": "an ant colony at all. And it would not"}, {"start": "00:51:52", "end": "00:51:58", "text": "allow them to warm up. And on the"}, {"start": "00:51:55", "end": "00:52:00", "text": "border, the ants are going crazy. They"}, {"start": "00:51:58", "end": "00:52:02", "text": "attack you. If you are on, we we put uh"}, {"start": "00:52:00", "end": "00:52:04", "text": "posts all around the border of this"}, {"start": "00:52:02", "end": "00:52:06", "text": "bubble and we were just there and these"}, {"start": "00:52:04", "end": "00:52:08", "text": "ants started attacking us and we filmed"}, {"start": "00:52:06", "end": "00:52:09", "text": "them. They're just running around in"}, {"start": "00:52:08", "end": "00:52:11", "text": "circles like in this big of an area."}, {"start": "00:52:09", "end": "00:52:13", "text": "They're just like"}, {"start": "00:52:11", "end": "00:52:16", "text": "it's like they're going crazy. They're"}, {"start": "00:52:13", "end": "00:52:18", "text": "not harvesting. They're not defending or"}, {"start": "00:52:16", "end": "00:52:20", "text": "attacking. They're just going around in"}, {"start": "00:52:18", "end": "00:52:22", "text": "circles like their brains are being"}, {"start": "00:52:20", "end": "00:52:24", "text": "fried. And so we're like, uh, let's"}, {"start": "00:52:22", "end": "00:52:25", "text": "let's get away from this area because if"}, {"start": "00:52:24", "end": "00:52:26", "text": "this is happening to them, what's"}, {"start": "00:52:25", "end": "00:52:28", "text": "happening to us being right here?"}, {"start": "00:52:26", "end": "00:52:30", "text": ">> Absolutely. Dude, that was my next"}, {"start": "00:52:28", "end": "00:52:31", "text": "question is like, isn't that what you"}, {"start": "00:52:30", "end": "00:52:33", "text": "guys are doing too?"}, {"start": "00:52:31", "end": "00:52:35", "text": ">> Kind of going around in circles trying"}, {"start": "00:52:33", "end": "00:52:37", "text": "to measure this stuff, you know, like"}, {"start": "00:52:35", "end": "00:52:40", "text": ">> it is it is interesting when you're like"}, {"start": "00:52:37", "end": "00:52:42", "text": "whatever it is you're measuring seems to"}, {"start": "00:52:40", "end": "00:52:42", "text": "be changing."}, {"start": "00:52:42", "end": "00:52:45", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:52:42", "end": "00:52:49", "text": ">> Um, you know, there's there's always"}, {"start": "00:52:45", "end": "00:52:52", "text": "that sort of philosophical question or"}, {"start": "00:52:49", "end": "00:52:55", "text": "even deeply scientific question of, you"}, {"start": "00:52:52", "end": "00:52:57", "text": "know, can anything truly is anything"}, {"start": "00:52:55", "end": "00:52:59", "text": "truly measurable? you know, because if"}, {"start": "00:52:57", "end": "00:53:01", "text": "it knows it's being observed, if it's"}, {"start": "00:52:59", "end": "00:53:03", "text": "conscious on some level, then what"}, {"start": "00:53:01", "end": "00:53:04", "text": "you're getting is, you know, it's a"}, {"start": "00:53:03", "end": "00:53:05", "text": "skew. It's not"}, {"start": "00:53:04", "end": "00:53:10", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:53:05", "end": "00:53:12", "text": ">> Um, perfect. So, do do you think that"}, {"start": "00:53:10", "end": "00:53:14", "text": "there's any merit to measuring anything"}, {"start": "00:53:12", "end": "00:53:17", "text": "at all there? Like, I mean, because it"}, {"start": "00:53:14", "end": "00:53:18", "text": "feels like it's just always appealing to"}, {"start": "00:53:17", "end": "00:53:20", "text": "you got to have something. You got to"}, {"start": "00:53:18", "end": "00:53:21", "text": "have some sort of language and and math"}, {"start": "00:53:20", "end": "00:53:24", "text": "and measurements are kind of the"}, {"start": "00:53:21", "end": "00:53:26", "text": "language of science. Uh what we've seen"}, {"start": "00:53:24", "end": "00:53:28", "text": "is that all all the religious folk are"}, {"start": "00:53:26", "end": "00:53:29", "text": "using scientific terms and all the"}, {"start": "00:53:28", "end": "00:53:32", "text": "scientists are using religious terms"}, {"start": "00:53:29", "end": "00:53:33", "text": "because none of us have a vocabulary to"}, {"start": "00:53:32", "end": "00:53:35", "text": "describe this stuff. Like if we say,"}, {"start": "00:53:33", "end": "00:53:37", "text": "\"Hey, a portal.\" You're going to picture"}, {"start": "00:53:35", "end": "00:53:40", "text": "Rick and Morty, right? Worm a portal"}, {"start": "00:53:37", "end": "00:53:43", "text": "opens up. But that's we're just that's a"}, {"start": "00:53:40", "end": "00:53:45", "text": "term that we all know and that's"}, {"start": "00:53:43", "end": "00:53:47", "text": "actually a clunky term. What is this?"}, {"start": "00:53:45", "end": "00:53:50", "text": "Some of these port these portals that"}, {"start": "00:53:47", "end": "00:53:52", "text": "happen on the triangle, they seem to not"}, {"start": "00:53:50", "end": "00:53:54", "text": "just be point A to point B, you know,"}, {"start": "00:53:52", "end": "00:53:57", "text": "when we're measuring them with these"}, {"start": "00:53:54", "end": "00:54:00", "text": "different instruments. It's like I is it"}, {"start": "00:53:57", "end": "00:54:01", "text": "coming through time? Is it coming"}, {"start": "00:54:00", "end": "00:54:04", "text": "through space? What is this? We don't"}, {"start": "00:54:01", "end": "00:54:06", "text": "know. So portal is a clunky term. It's a"}, {"start": "00:54:04", "end": "00:54:08", "text": "good term because you get the general"}, {"start": "00:54:06", "end": "00:54:11", "text": "idea, but we don't know what it is. But"}, {"start": "00:54:08", "end": "00:54:12", "text": "we got to have something. And so I agree"}, {"start": "00:54:11", "end": "00:54:15", "text": "the phenomenon is always one step ahead"}, {"start": "00:54:12", "end": "00:54:16", "text": "of us. And sometimes it's it's"}, {"start": "00:54:15", "end": "00:54:19", "text": "tricksterish or occasionally mean and"}, {"start": "00:54:16", "end": "00:54:20", "text": "occasionally it even attacks people. But"}, {"start": "00:54:19", "end": "00:54:21", "text": "it also will kind of lead you along"}, {"start": "00:54:20", "end": "00:54:23", "text": "like, \"Hey, look over here. I'm going to"}, {"start": "00:54:21", "end": "00:54:25", "text": "teach you a little more. Oh, good job,"}, {"start": "00:54:23", "end": "00:54:27", "text": "little monkey. You you learn. I'm going"}, {"start": "00:54:25", "end": "00:54:30", "text": "to teach you a little more.\" Um, but you"}, {"start": "00:54:27", "end": "00:54:33", "text": "have to you have to have something. And"}, {"start": "00:54:30", "end": "00:54:36", "text": "so it may be, oh, okay, like I said,"}, {"start": "00:54:33", "end": "00:54:38", "text": "okay, small animals don't decompose. Big"}, {"start": "00:54:36", "end": "00:54:41", "text": "animals do decompose. If you're in the"}, {"start": "00:54:38", "end": "00:54:44", "text": "water, you do seem to decompose."}, {"start": "00:54:41", "end": "00:54:46", "text": ">> That's measurable. That's I've I've put"}, {"start": "00:54:44", "end": "00:54:48", "text": "those ground rules on. They might not"}, {"start": "00:54:46", "end": "00:54:49", "text": "apply at all. Maybe it's just random."}, {"start": "00:54:48", "end": "00:54:51", "text": "Maybe that's just what I found in"}, {"start": "00:54:49", "end": "00:54:52", "text": "certain instances and maybe it doesn't"}, {"start": "00:54:51", "end": "00:54:54", "text": "apply elsewhere. But I'm just trying to"}, {"start": "00:54:52", "end": "00:54:55", "text": "make a framework. That's what we're"}, {"start": "00:54:54", "end": "00:54:57", "text": "trying to do. It's it's"}, {"start": "00:54:55", "end": "00:54:58", "text": ">> seems like that's the toughest thing to"}, {"start": "00:54:57", "end": "00:54:59", "text": "do there."}, {"start": "00:54:58", "end": "00:55:01", "text": ">> Because even creating a framework based"}, {"start": "00:54:59", "end": "00:55:02", "text": "on what we already know doesn't seem to"}, {"start": "00:55:01", "end": "00:55:04", "text": "be working."}, {"start": "00:55:02", "end": "00:55:05", "text": ">> Yeah. Because we grew up with certain"}, {"start": "00:55:04", "end": "00:55:07", "text": "rules, rules of nature, rules of"}, {"start": "00:55:05", "end": "00:55:09", "text": "physics, and they don't seem to apply"}, {"start": "00:55:07", "end": "00:55:11", "text": "there. So what are the rules then? You"}, {"start": "00:55:09", "end": "00:55:12", "text": "you don't know. Oh, and how do you take"}, {"start": "00:55:11", "end": "00:55:15", "text": "a measurement if you say, \"Okay, this is"}, {"start": "00:55:12", "end": "00:55:17", "text": "this is 10 in long.\" Well, if an inch"}, {"start": "00:55:15", "end": "00:55:19", "text": "isn't actually an inch, and sometimes an"}, {"start": "00:55:17", "end": "00:55:21", "text": "inch is 3 in, it's like, what are you"}, {"start": "00:55:19", "end": "00:55:23", "text": "talking about? It doesn't make sense."}, {"start": "00:55:21", "end": "00:55:26", "text": "So, you that's what it's like."}, {"start": "00:55:23", "end": "00:55:28", "text": ">> So,"}, {"start": "00:55:26", "end": "00:55:31", "text": "from from your own personal knowledge"}, {"start": "00:55:28", "end": "00:55:33", "text": "and your own personal speculation,"}, {"start": "00:55:31", "end": "00:55:35", "text": "what's in the mesa?"}, {"start": "00:55:33", "end": "00:55:36", "text": ">> Uh, is that something you can talk"}, {"start": "00:55:35", "end": "00:55:38", "text": "about?"}, {"start": "00:55:36", "end": "00:55:40", "text": ">> I can't talk much about it. Um, I can"}, {"start": "00:55:38", "end": "00:55:42", "text": "talk some about what's on the show. It"}, {"start": "00:55:40", "end": "00:55:45", "text": "doesn't make sense. Well, I will say"}, {"start": "00:55:42", "end": "00:55:47", "text": "this. I think I'm okay. I I'm I think"}, {"start": "00:55:45", "end": "00:55:49", "text": "I'm okay to say this. If you watch the"}, {"start": "00:55:47", "end": "00:55:51", "text": "if you go if you go on Google Earth and"}, {"start": "00:55:49", "end": "00:55:53", "text": "Google Maps and look over the years and"}, {"start": "00:55:51", "end": "00:55:55", "text": "if you watch the show, so I'm just"}, {"start": "00:55:53", "end": "00:55:59", "text": "sharing what you should be able to see"}, {"start": "00:55:55", "end": "00:56:02", "text": "publicly. The mesa is that area is"}, {"start": "00:55:59", "end": "00:56:04", "text": "sinking in on itself and has been"}, {"start": "00:56:02", "end": "00:56:06", "text": "steadily. If when you look at it like"}, {"start": "00:56:04", "end": "00:56:09", "text": "first season, it's almost that section"}, {"start": "00:56:06", "end": "00:56:12", "text": "is pretty normal and where the thing is"}, {"start": "00:56:09", "end": "00:56:14", "text": "in the mesa seems to be moving in and"}, {"start": "00:56:12", "end": "00:56:16", "text": "noticeably. So watch from season one"}, {"start": "00:56:14", "end": "00:56:18", "text": "until now and you'll be like, \"Oh gee.\""}, {"start": "00:56:16", "end": "00:56:20", "text": ">> And that's been discussed."}, {"start": "00:56:18", "end": "00:56:22", "text": ">> I don't think it's been discussed on the"}, {"start": "00:56:20", "end": "00:56:24", "text": "show, but all of us but all of us are"}, {"start": "00:56:22", "end": "00:56:26", "text": "like, \"Um, what's going on here?\" It's"}, {"start": "00:56:24", "end": "00:56:28", "text": "it's"}, {"start": "00:56:26", "end": "00:56:30", "text": ">> it it seems to be moving in in that area"}, {"start": "00:56:28", "end": "00:56:32", "text": ">> cuz the messes definitely seems to be"}, {"start": "00:56:30", "end": "00:56:38", "text": "like the crux of of a lot of this"}, {"start": "00:56:32", "end": "00:56:41", "text": "activity and obviously also a giant"}, {"start": "00:56:38", "end": "00:56:44", "text": "uh accelerator for you know the"}, {"start": "00:56:41", "end": "00:56:45", "text": "phenomenon but also for ratings like I"}, {"start": "00:56:44", "end": "00:56:48", "text": "mean let's be honest like I mean the"}, {"start": "00:56:45", "end": "00:56:49", "text": "mystery stays alive people tune in every"}, {"start": "00:56:48", "end": "00:56:52", "text": "week they want to see what happens"}, {"start": "00:56:49", "end": "00:56:56", "text": "what's in the mesa what percentage of"}, {"start": "00:56:52", "end": "00:56:59", "text": "that hype is related ated to uh the show"}, {"start": "00:56:56", "end": "00:57:00", "text": "wanting to have another season versus"}, {"start": "00:56:59", "end": "00:57:02", "text": "man there's genuinely something here"}, {"start": "00:57:00", "end": "00:57:03", "text": "that we're really interested in but we"}, {"start": "00:57:02", "end": "00:57:07", "text": "don't have the capacity to get in there"}, {"start": "00:57:03", "end": "00:57:11", "text": "like what it's it's it's 100% legitimate"}, {"start": "00:57:07", "end": "00:57:12", "text": "I think um we people default to what"}, {"start": "00:57:11", "end": "00:57:14", "text": "they picture in the head like I said you"}, {"start": "00:57:12", "end": "00:57:15", "text": "know if you say portal you picture Rick"}, {"start": "00:57:14", "end": "00:57:18", "text": "and Morty and you it's a visual you get"}, {"start": "00:57:15", "end": "00:57:19", "text": "right and I've seen I'll I'll tell you"}, {"start": "00:57:18", "end": "00:57:22", "text": "later on if you want I'll tell you a"}, {"start": "00:57:19", "end": "00:57:25", "text": "story where I saw a portal um and we"}, {"start": "00:57:22", "end": "00:57:26", "text": "witnessed it Um, same thing. If you say"}, {"start": "00:57:25", "end": "00:57:28", "text": "there's something in the mesa, what do"}, {"start": "00:57:26", "end": "00:57:30", "text": "you probably picture? A UFO? Probably"}, {"start": "00:57:28", "end": "00:57:31", "text": "picture some saucer in there and we just"}, {"start": "00:57:30", "end": "00:57:33", "text": "got to get to it. Well, whatever is"}, {"start": "00:57:31", "end": "00:57:36", "text": "going on there is more abstract. We"}, {"start": "00:57:33", "end": "00:57:38", "text": "found uh material that we can"}, {"start": "00:57:36", "end": "00:57:42", "text": "deconstruct under radiation and then"}, {"start": "00:57:38", "end": "00:57:45", "text": "rebuilds itself. That's impossible. We"}, {"start": "00:57:42", "end": "00:57:47", "text": "found green leaves dating back to the"}, {"start": "00:57:45", "end": "00:57:49", "text": "eosene, which is impossible. And then"}, {"start": "00:57:47", "end": "00:57:51", "text": "you take them out and they dry out. It's"}, {"start": "00:57:49", "end": "00:57:53", "text": "like, okay, that's what are you doing"}, {"start": "00:57:51", "end": "00:57:57", "text": "hundreds of feet down in a mesa? They"}, {"start": "00:57:53", "end": "00:57:59", "text": "found ceramics with uh um atomic"}, {"start": "00:57:57", "end": "00:58:01", "text": "layering, you know, amazing material. I"}, {"start": "00:57:59", "end": "00:58:03", "text": "don't I'm not privy to a lot of that. I"}, {"start": "00:58:01", "end": "00:58:05", "text": "know a lot of that is coming out soon."}, {"start": "00:58:03", "end": "00:58:06", "text": "Some of the materials they found in the"}, {"start": "00:58:05", "end": "00:58:09", "text": "mesa, but they also found like I think a"}, {"start": "00:58:06", "end": "00:58:11", "text": "penny deep in the mesa. What's that?"}, {"start": "00:58:09", "end": "00:58:14", "text": "Were people down there in the past? I"}, {"start": "00:58:11", "end": "00:58:15", "text": "think it was like 1920s or 1930s,4s,"}, {"start": "00:58:14", "end": "00:58:17", "text": "something like that. Penny they found in"}, {"start": "00:58:15", "end": "00:58:19", "text": "there deep in the mesa. How can that be"}, {"start": "00:58:17", "end": "00:58:21", "text": "there? Who put it there? Was it there?"}, {"start": "00:58:19", "end": "00:58:23", "text": "Was the messa Did it used to be open or"}, {"start": "00:58:21", "end": "00:58:25", "text": "is there that have something to do with"}, {"start": "00:58:23", "end": "00:58:25", "text": "time or is that the phenomenon showing"}, {"start": "00:58:25", "end": "00:58:27", "text": "us something"}, {"start": "00:58:25", "end": "00:58:29", "text": ">> or some type of like by by the sound of"}, {"start": "00:58:27", "end": "00:58:31", "text": "this it it sounds like there might be"}, {"start": "00:58:29", "end": "00:58:33", "text": "some type of uh mine"}, {"start": "00:58:31", "end": "00:58:34", "text": ">> or something down there like I mean if"}, {"start": "00:58:33", "end": "00:58:36", "text": "it's collapsing in on itself that would"}, {"start": "00:58:34", "end": "00:58:38", "text": "make sense. A penny would make sense."}, {"start": "00:58:36", "end": "00:58:42", "text": ">> Yeah. So what whatever's going on there"}, {"start": "00:58:38", "end": "00:58:44", "text": "it it I think it's more abstract. I"}, {"start": "00:58:42", "end": "00:58:46", "text": "think we want the visual of there is an"}, {"start": "00:58:44", "end": "00:58:48", "text": "object in the mesa. We got to get to it."}, {"start": "00:58:46", "end": "00:58:49", "text": "whatever is happening there and the"}, {"start": "00:58:48", "end": "00:58:51", "text": "things coming out of it. I think it's"}, {"start": "00:58:49", "end": "00:58:53", "text": "more abstract than that. I mean, it"}, {"start": "00:58:51", "end": "00:58:55", "text": "could just be simply, yeah, UFOs there,"}, {"start": "00:58:53", "end": "00:58:57", "text": "you know, some craft crash in there a"}, {"start": "00:58:55", "end": "00:59:00", "text": "long time. It could be absolutely, but I"}, {"start": "00:58:57", "end": "00:59:02", "text": "think we default to that because"}, {"start": "00:59:00", "end": "00:59:03", "text": ">> we're drawn to the unknown, but we don't"}, {"start": "00:59:02", "end": "00:59:04", "text": "want the we don't want a nebulous"}, {"start": "00:59:03", "end": "00:59:06", "text": "answer."}, {"start": "00:59:04", "end": "00:59:08", "text": ">> We want here's the unknown and here's"}, {"start": "00:59:06", "end": "00:59:10", "text": "the known. It's a craft cuz it just"}, {"start": "00:59:08", "end": "00:59:12", "text": "like, you know, as as an outsider"}, {"start": "00:59:10", "end": "00:59:14", "text": "looking in, you know, we're familiar"}, {"start": "00:59:12", "end": "00:59:19", "text": "with uh you know, there's a show on TV"}, {"start": "00:59:14", "end": "00:59:20", "text": "called um it's uh what was it? Not Skull"}, {"start": "00:59:19", "end": "00:59:21", "text": "Island, but"}, {"start": "00:59:20", "end": "00:59:23", "text": ">> oh uh Oak Island."}, {"start": "00:59:21", "end": "00:59:24", "text": ">> Oak Island. There you go. It's in Canada"}, {"start": "00:59:23", "end": "00:59:27", "text": "as well. I should know this."}, {"start": "00:59:24", "end": "00:59:29", "text": ">> Uh but the secret of Oak Island. And it"}, {"start": "00:59:27", "end": "00:59:31", "text": "it feels like they keep leading you on"}, {"start": "00:59:29", "end": "00:59:32", "text": "every season. You're just like, we're"}, {"start": "00:59:31", "end": "00:59:34", "text": "not we're going to get it. We're going"}, {"start": "00:59:32", "end": "00:59:35", "text": "to get it. And like the more I watch"}, {"start": "00:59:34", "end": "00:59:37", "text": "Skinwalker, the more I get this feeling"}, {"start": "00:59:35", "end": "00:59:39", "text": "now that I'm like, can't we just like"}, {"start": "00:59:37", "end": "00:59:42", "text": "get in there? Can't we just, you know,"}, {"start": "00:59:39", "end": "00:59:45", "text": "we we have it seems like we have the"}, {"start": "00:59:42", "end": "00:59:47", "text": "financial resources to get this done. Um"}, {"start": "00:59:45", "end": "00:59:50", "text": "but then, you know, the machinery starts"}, {"start": "00:59:47", "end": "00:59:52", "text": "breaking down or like the the technology"}, {"start": "00:59:50", "end": "00:59:55", "text": "starts going haywire. It always feels"}, {"start": "00:59:52", "end": "00:59:58", "text": "like a convenient sort of uh thing that"}, {"start": "00:59:55", "end": "01:00:00", "text": "happens that protects this area. and"}, {"start": "00:59:58", "end": "01:00:02", "text": "convenient in the sense that like this"}, {"start": "01:00:00", "end": "01:00:06", "text": "is also the area that people want to see"}, {"start": "01:00:02", "end": "01:00:08", "text": "on TV. So you understand my uh slight"}, {"start": "01:00:06", "end": "01:00:09", "text": "frustration not not I'm still"}, {"start": "01:00:08", "end": "01:00:11", "text": "entertained by it thoroughly but there"}, {"start": "01:00:09", "end": "01:00:13", "text": "is there is this feeling and I think a"}, {"start": "01:00:11", "end": "01:00:16", "text": "lot of people also feel that to a"}, {"start": "01:00:13", "end": "01:00:19", "text": "certain extent. Um"}, {"start": "01:00:16", "end": "01:00:22", "text": ">> what part of that for you is completely"}, {"start": "01:00:19", "end": "01:00:24", "text": "true that yeah there is that"}, {"start": "01:00:22", "end": "01:00:26", "text": ">> factor here where we just want to you"}, {"start": "01:00:24", "end": "01:00:28", "text": "know film a TV show and we have to be"}, {"start": "01:00:26", "end": "01:00:30", "text": "careful or no there's just no way of"}, {"start": "01:00:28", "end": "01:00:33", "text": "getting in there like what is that? So"}, {"start": "01:00:30", "end": "01:00:34", "text": "um among the people who are on the show"}, {"start": "01:00:33", "end": "01:00:36", "text": "and among the different scientists, the"}, {"start": "01:00:34", "end": "01:00:39", "text": "people on the team, we get frustrated"}, {"start": "01:00:36", "end": "01:00:41", "text": "because first of all the amount of shows"}, {"start": "01:00:39", "end": "01:00:44", "text": "they put on, you can't show all that"}, {"start": "01:00:41", "end": "01:00:44", "text": "happens. Uh a lot of times the editors"}, {"start": "01:00:44", "end": "01:00:46", "text": ">> there's just too much."}, {"start": "01:00:44", "end": "01:00:49", "text": ">> There's too much. And a lot of times the"}, {"start": "01:00:46", "end": "01:00:50", "text": "editors will pick and choose and they'll"}, {"start": "01:00:49", "end": "01:00:53", "text": "say, so it's not the team, it's the"}, {"start": "01:00:50", "end": "01:00:55", "text": "editors will say, \"Well, hey, we think"}, {"start": "01:00:53", "end": "01:00:57", "text": "this over here makes for compelling TV.\""}, {"start": "01:00:55", "end": "01:00:59", "text": "And it's like, but this thing that"}, {"start": "01:00:57", "end": "01:01:02", "text": "doesn't seem like again, it's a lack of"}, {"start": "01:00:59", "end": "01:01:04", "text": "decomposition, time being frozen, um,"}, {"start": "01:01:02", "end": "01:01:06", "text": "desert trumpet plants growing in"}, {"start": "01:01:04", "end": "01:01:07", "text": "whackadoodle ways in certain areas. Some"}, {"start": "01:01:06", "end": "01:01:10", "text": "of these things that have happened."}, {"start": "01:01:07", "end": "01:01:13", "text": "We've I Okay, I can only because they"}, {"start": "01:01:10", "end": "01:01:16", "text": "might use some point. We caught a flying"}, {"start": "01:01:13", "end": "01:01:19", "text": "mammal on camera that doesn't exist. And"}, {"start": "01:01:16", "end": "01:01:21", "text": "I'll just say that much. It's like I I"}, {"start": "01:01:19", "end": "01:01:22", "text": "did ask Brandon to be able to say that"}, {"start": "01:01:21", "end": "01:01:24", "text": "much, but they might use it, but it's"}, {"start": "01:01:22", "end": "01:01:26", "text": "like that's huge. Why aren't we saying"}, {"start": "01:01:24", "end": "01:01:27", "text": "that? Well, because some of these things"}, {"start": "01:01:26", "end": "01:01:29", "text": "are more compelling and they're going to"}, {"start": "01:01:27", "end": "01:01:30", "text": "draw people in more and it's like"}, {"start": "01:01:29", "end": "01:01:34", "text": ">> a flying mammal."}, {"start": "01:01:30", "end": "01:01:37", "text": ">> Mammal. The powered flight. No, no. Um,"}, {"start": "01:01:34", "end": "01:01:38", "text": "no. Not a bat. Not a flying squirrel."}, {"start": "01:01:37", "end": "01:01:38", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:01:38", "end": "01:01:40", "text": ">> Flying mammal."}, {"start": "01:01:38", "end": "01:01:43", "text": ">> I'm running out of options here."}, {"start": "01:01:40", "end": "01:01:45", "text": ">> Doesn't exist. Long face, long weird"}, {"start": "01:01:43", "end": "01:01:47", "text": "curled in whiskers. Almost like a"}, {"start": "01:01:45", "end": "01:01:51", "text": "bentong. If you ever see those curled in"}, {"start": "01:01:47", "end": "01:01:53", "text": "whiskers, long tail, not a web tail. And"}, {"start": "01:01:51", "end": "01:01:55", "text": "we've Yeah. So, I probably shouldn't say"}, {"start": "01:01:53", "end": "01:01:57", "text": "more than that, but"}, {"start": "01:01:55", "end": "01:01:59", "text": "we've got it documented. So, keep after"}, {"start": "01:01:57", "end": "01:02:01", "text": "us. If if if they don't if they don't"}, {"start": "01:01:59", "end": "01:02:03", "text": "let us put that in the show, then then"}, {"start": "01:02:01", "end": "01:02:05", "text": "let's then I'll say, \"Hey, Brandon, can"}, {"start": "01:02:03", "end": "01:02:09", "text": "we pretty please get this information"}, {"start": "01:02:05", "end": "01:02:11", "text": "out there?\" Um, because if you know,"}, {"start": "01:02:09", "end": "01:02:14", "text": ">> but it seems like scientific discovery"}, {"start": "01:02:11", "end": "01:02:16", "text": "is then taking a backseat to"}, {"start": "01:02:14", "end": "01:02:16", "text": ">> on the show, but not on the actual"}, {"start": "01:02:16", "end": "01:02:19", "text": "investigation."}, {"start": "01:02:16", "end": "01:02:20", "text": ">> No, but Okay. So you guys are"}, {"start": "01:02:19", "end": "01:02:23", "text": "investigating it year round"}, {"start": "01:02:20", "end": "01:02:25", "text": ">> in in in in a really formal and"}, {"start": "01:02:23", "end": "01:02:26", "text": "professional capacity. You're just not"}, {"start": "01:02:25", "end": "01:02:29", "text": "releasing that information,"}, {"start": "01:02:26", "end": "01:02:31", "text": ">> correct? And um I and some of it I mean"}, {"start": "01:02:29", "end": "01:02:33", "text": "there's some of it's just barely off the"}, {"start": "01:02:31", "end": "01:02:35", "text": "ranch cuz the whole you basin where"}, {"start": "01:02:33", "end": "01:02:38", "text": "Skinwalker Ranch is it's almost like a"}, {"start": "01:02:35", "end": "01:02:41", "text": "funnel and like the the most happens on"}, {"start": "01:02:38", "end": "01:02:42", "text": "the ranch but that whole basin is weird."}, {"start": "01:02:41", "end": "01:02:44", "text": "People are seeing UFOs all the time."}, {"start": "01:02:42", "end": "01:02:46", "text": "People were seeing weird shape shifting"}, {"start": "01:02:44", "end": "01:02:50", "text": "things, but it seems to the epicenter is"}, {"start": "01:02:46", "end": "01:02:51", "text": "the wrench. And I mean, um, uh, Caleb"}, {"start": "01:02:50", "end": "01:02:54", "text": "and Nathan had me come out, you know, a"}, {"start": "01:02:51", "end": "01:02:56", "text": "few weeks ago to check out this cow that"}, {"start": "01:02:54", "end": "01:02:57", "text": "died and wasn't decomposing and we no"}, {"start": "01:02:56", "end": "01:02:59", "text": "bloating and we were documenting it was"}, {"start": "01:02:57", "end": "01:03:01", "text": "just barely off the ranch and it was"}, {"start": "01:02:59", "end": "01:03:04", "text": "healthy and just died. And they're like,"}, {"start": "01:03:01", "end": "01:03:06", "text": "was this and nothing no scavengers would"}, {"start": "01:03:04", "end": "01:03:08", "text": "touch it. So we put game cameras up on"}, {"start": "01:03:06", "end": "01:03:11", "text": "it and nothing was bothering it. We had"}, {"start": "01:03:08", "end": "01:03:14", "text": "a raven come up and like and a coyote"}, {"start": "01:03:11", "end": "01:03:15", "text": "came up to it and and ran off. Don't"}, {"start": "01:03:14", "end": "01:03:16", "text": "know what that means, but I mean these"}, {"start": "01:03:15", "end": "01:03:18", "text": "kind of things aren't going to end up in"}, {"start": "01:03:16", "end": "01:03:19", "text": "the show. That one was just barely off"}, {"start": "01:03:18", "end": "01:03:20", "text": "the ranch."}, {"start": "01:03:19", "end": "01:03:21", "text": ">> So,"}, {"start": "01:03:20", "end": "01:03:24", "text": ">> uh there's so much year round that's"}, {"start": "01:03:21", "end": "01:03:26", "text": "happening there and the the Skinwalker"}, {"start": "01:03:24", "end": "01:03:28", "text": "Rancher Insiders that helps, you know,"}, {"start": "01:03:26", "end": "01:03:30", "text": "where we can year round have people keep"}, {"start": "01:03:28", "end": "01:03:30", "text": "an eyes on campus."}, {"start": "01:03:30", "end": "01:03:33", "text": ">> True."}, {"start": "01:03:30", "end": "01:03:35", "text": ">> But there Yeah, there's a lot that just"}, {"start": "01:03:33", "end": "01:03:36", "text": "probably will never come out."}, {"start": "01:03:35", "end": "01:03:37", "text": ">> What's something that you would do"}, {"start": "01:03:36", "end": "01:03:39", "text": "differently if you were in charge of all"}, {"start": "01:03:37", "end": "01:03:40", "text": "this? Not, and I'm not saying that in a"}, {"start": "01:03:39", "end": "01:03:43", "text": "way that like you know better than"}, {"start": "01:03:40", "end": "01:03:44", "text": "anybody, but I'm just I'm I'm curious"}, {"start": "01:03:43", "end": "01:03:45", "text": "about like where your head's at. What"}, {"start": "01:03:44", "end": "01:03:49", "text": "would you prioritize?"}, {"start": "01:03:45", "end": "01:03:53", "text": ">> Um I would I would say let's make a list"}, {"start": "01:03:49", "end": "01:03:55", "text": "of what we do know or the Okay, we"}, {"start": "01:03:53", "end": "01:03:57", "text": "here's the known rules of the universe."}, {"start": "01:03:55", "end": "01:03:58", "text": "Here's what we think the rules on the"}, {"start": "01:03:57", "end": "01:03:59", "text": "ranch. Like I told you the thing about"}, {"start": "01:03:58", "end": "01:04:00", "text": "decomposition."}, {"start": "01:03:59", "end": "01:04:02", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "01:04:00", "end": "01:04:04", "text": ">> What do we think the rules are? And"}, {"start": "01:04:02", "end": "01:04:06", "text": "let's test what we think the new rules"}, {"start": "01:04:04", "end": "01:04:08", "text": "are. you know, let and each of our"}, {"start": "01:04:06", "end": "01:04:10", "text": "fields, let's go through and say, let's,"}, {"start": "01:04:08", "end": "01:04:13", "text": "you know, specify some new experiments"}, {"start": "01:04:10", "end": "01:04:15", "text": "to test whether or not these new"}, {"start": "01:04:13", "end": "01:04:17", "text": "perceived rules are the rules. Um,"}, {"start": "01:04:15", "end": "01:04:19", "text": "that's that's what I would do. That's"}, {"start": "01:04:17", "end": "01:04:20", "text": "what I would focus on. Um, you know,"}, {"start": "01:04:19", "end": "01:04:22", "text": "maybe not on camera, but, you know,"}, {"start": "01:04:20", "end": "01:04:24", "text": "that's that's where I'd put my effort."}, {"start": "01:04:22", "end": "01:04:26", "text": "Yeah, because it seems like that's"}, {"start": "01:04:24", "end": "01:04:29", "text": "pretty substantial in in"}, {"start": "01:04:26", "end": "01:04:31", "text": "terms of just specifically the"}, {"start": "01:04:29", "end": "01:04:35", "text": "decomposition"}, {"start": "01:04:31", "end": "01:04:37", "text": ">> or the I guess halting of decomposition"}, {"start": "01:04:35", "end": "01:04:38", "text": "or or or slowing down whatever whatever"}, {"start": "01:04:37", "end": "01:04:38", "text": "that is."}, {"start": "01:04:38", "end": "01:04:40", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:04:38", "end": "01:04:43", "text": ">> Um"}, {"start": "01:04:40", "end": "01:04:45", "text": ">> could essentially be very beneficial"}, {"start": "01:04:43", "end": "01:04:47", "text": ">> for studying things. Oh yeah. you know,"}, {"start": "01:04:45", "end": "01:04:49", "text": "if if we had the ability to mummify"}, {"start": "01:04:47", "end": "01:04:51", "text": "things in a way that preserved their"}, {"start": "01:04:49", "end": "01:04:54", "text": "organs"}, {"start": "01:04:51", "end": "01:04:55", "text": ">> um and didn't necessarily destroy the"}, {"start": "01:04:54", "end": "01:04:57", "text": "tissue,"}, {"start": "01:04:55", "end": "01:05:00", "text": ">> uh I feel like that would be a"}, {"start": "01:04:57", "end": "01:05:03", "text": "breakthrough for paleontology, for"}, {"start": "01:05:00", "end": "01:05:04", "text": "biology, for all types and even perhaps,"}, {"start": "01:05:03", "end": "01:05:07", "text": "you know, answering some of the"}, {"start": "01:05:04", "end": "01:05:09", "text": "questions on you know um the"}, {"start": "01:05:07", "end": "01:05:11", "text": "preservation of youth or the longevity"}, {"start": "01:05:09", "end": "01:05:12", "text": "of our own lifespans like I mean it"}, {"start": "01:05:11", "end": "01:05:14", "text": "feels related."}, {"start": "01:05:12", "end": "01:05:16", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. Whatever it is, you know, we"}, {"start": "01:05:14", "end": "01:05:18", "text": "should have a better understanding of it"}, {"start": "01:05:16", "end": "01:05:19", "text": "because it's not just it's internal and"}, {"start": "01:05:18", "end": "01:05:20", "text": "external."}, {"start": "01:05:19", "end": "01:05:21", "text": ">> Mhm. Wow."}, {"start": "01:05:20", "end": "01:05:24", "text": ">> And other life forms. Again, if"}, {"start": "01:05:21", "end": "01:05:27", "text": "scavengers coming up are like deterred."}, {"start": "01:05:24", "end": "01:05:29", "text": "Yeah. What's what's doing that? So, and"}, {"start": "01:05:27", "end": "01:05:32", "text": "and we we we the cattle mutilations,"}, {"start": "01:05:29", "end": "01:05:33", "text": "too. It's like I was so skeptical of"}, {"start": "01:05:32", "end": "01:05:35", "text": "cattle mutilations growing up. You know,"}, {"start": "01:05:33", "end": "01:05:38", "text": "I've heard about them my whole life. Um,"}, {"start": "01:05:35", "end": "01:05:40", "text": "but then as I've started uh both on the"}, {"start": "01:05:38", "end": "01:05:43", "text": "ranch and as I've talked with other"}, {"start": "01:05:40", "end": "01:05:45", "text": "people in other cases and uh MUON has a"}, {"start": "01:05:43", "end": "01:05:47", "text": "really good record of them and they've"}, {"start": "01:05:45", "end": "01:05:50", "text": "helped me and I've gone out to some of"}, {"start": "01:05:47", "end": "01:05:51", "text": "these sites. It's like there actually is"}, {"start": "01:05:50", "end": "01:05:54", "text": "something to this. I did not want to"}, {"start": "01:05:51", "end": "01:05:54", "text": "admit that. I'm admitting that. Not all"}, {"start": "01:05:54", "end": "01:05:55", "text": "of them."}, {"start": "01:05:54", "end": "01:05:57", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:05:55", "end": "01:06:00", "text": ">> But there absolutely is something to it."}, {"start": "01:05:57", "end": "01:06:02", "text": "Why? Why cattle? And we the joke is I"}, {"start": "01:06:00", "end": "01:06:04", "text": "don't know if you remember um the Star"}, {"start": "01:06:02", "end": "01:06:06", "text": "Trek where they went back to get the"}, {"start": "01:06:04", "end": "01:06:08", "text": "whales. There's a Star Trek episode"}, {"start": "01:06:06", "end": "01:06:10", "text": "where they go back in time. There's this"}, {"start": "01:06:08", "end": "01:06:12", "text": "probe that comes from space and it's"}, {"start": "01:06:10", "end": "01:06:14", "text": "shooting this this beam at the Earth and"}, {"start": "01:06:12", "end": "01:06:16", "text": "it's like causing all this chaos in"}, {"start": "01:06:14", "end": "01:06:18", "text": "these oceans and they turn out well it's"}, {"start": "01:06:16", "end": "01:06:20", "text": "actually it's trying to communicate with"}, {"start": "01:06:18", "end": "01:06:21", "text": "whales but we've made whales extinct. So"}, {"start": "01:06:20", "end": "01:06:24", "text": "they go back in time and bring some"}, {"start": "01:06:21", "end": "01:06:27", "text": "whales back and and like Spock says, if"}, {"start": "01:06:24", "end": "01:06:29", "text": "we were to assume that this message was"}, {"start": "01:06:27", "end": "01:06:30", "text": "meant for humans, that shows our"}, {"start": "01:06:29", "end": "01:06:32", "text": "arrogance because maybe it's for another"}, {"start": "01:06:30", "end": "01:06:35", "text": "life form. And it was it was for whales,"}, {"start": "01:06:32", "end": "01:06:38", "text": "right? So who knows? Maybe cattle or"}, {"start": "01:06:35", "end": "01:06:39", "text": "what matter. Maybe maybe aliens are"}, {"start": "01:06:38", "end": "01:06:40", "text": "coming from somewhere they don't care"}, {"start": "01:06:39", "end": "01:06:41", "text": "about us, but they're curious about"}, {"start": "01:06:40", "end": "01:06:44", "text": "cattle."}, {"start": "01:06:41", "end": "01:06:45", "text": ">> Yeah. People in India would be"}, {"start": "01:06:44", "end": "01:06:45", "text": ">> would be right about a lot of things in"}, {"start": "01:06:45", "end": "01:06:47", "text": "that case."}, {"start": "01:06:45", "end": "01:06:49", "text": ">> Yeah. which I don't say that's what it"}, {"start": "01:06:47", "end": "01:06:52", "text": "is, but I'm just saying you got to be"}, {"start": "01:06:49", "end": "01:06:54", "text": "open to the possibility you're wrong and"}, {"start": "01:06:52", "end": "01:06:57", "text": "you should listen. Not every theory"}, {"start": "01:06:54", "end": "01:06:59", "text": ">> is going to be equal value, but it is"}, {"start": "01:06:57", "end": "01:07:01", "text": "valuable to hear it, even if it's wrong."}, {"start": "01:06:59", "end": "01:07:05", "text": ">> The boine is a sacred animal in many"}, {"start": "01:07:01", "end": "01:07:08", "text": "cultures. It also is one of the only uh"}, {"start": "01:07:05", "end": "01:07:10", "text": "species that we're sort of compatible"}, {"start": "01:07:08", "end": "01:07:12", "text": "with on in like uh I believe like the"}, {"start": "01:07:10", "end": "01:07:13", "text": "plasma or something something to do with"}, {"start": "01:07:12", "end": "01:07:15", "text": "the blood"}, {"start": "01:07:13", "end": "01:07:18", "text": ">> like boine blood especially uh"}, {"start": "01:07:15", "end": "01:07:21", "text": ">> I think fetuses"}, {"start": "01:07:18", "end": "01:07:23", "text": ">> um and I'm not a biologist by in any in"}, {"start": "01:07:21", "end": "01:07:26", "text": "any by any means but I I've read that"}, {"start": "01:07:23", "end": "01:07:28", "text": "there are some similarities there as"}, {"start": "01:07:26", "end": "01:07:31", "text": "well as even"}, {"start": "01:07:28", "end": "01:07:33", "text": "um the the sort of tallow how it's like"}, {"start": "01:07:31", "end": "01:07:35", "text": "it's good for For us, it's it our skin"}, {"start": "01:07:33", "end": "01:07:37", "text": "recognizes it as our own. And so, like,"}, {"start": "01:07:35", "end": "01:07:40", "text": "there's there's all this like overlap"}, {"start": "01:07:37", "end": "01:07:43", "text": "between us and and boine that seems to"}, {"start": "01:07:40", "end": "01:07:46", "text": "uh seems to be related."}, {"start": "01:07:43", "end": "01:07:48", "text": ">> And if that's the case, then, you know,"}, {"start": "01:07:46", "end": "01:07:50", "text": ">> it it I don't know. It makes for"}, {"start": "01:07:48", "end": "01:07:53", "text": "interesting speculation. I I had a guest"}, {"start": "01:07:50", "end": "01:07:56", "text": "in here recently that was talking about,"}, {"start": "01:07:53", "end": "01:08:00", "text": "you know, his alleged um alien"}, {"start": "01:07:56", "end": "01:08:02", "text": "abductions and he was then sort of"}, {"start": "01:08:00", "end": "01:08:07", "text": "deferring to the the idea"}, {"start": "01:08:02", "end": "01:08:11", "text": ">> that they feed on blood somehow like but"}, {"start": "01:08:07", "end": "01:08:12", "text": "um is it's consumed not orally but like"}, {"start": "01:08:11", "end": "01:08:14", "text": ">> like absorbing it."}, {"start": "01:08:12", "end": "01:08:18", "text": ">> Exactly. Like they sit in these vats or"}, {"start": "01:08:14", "end": "01:08:20", "text": "whatever. Um, and that"}, {"start": "01:08:18", "end": "01:08:22", "text": "it would it would make sense that their"}, {"start": "01:08:20", "end": "01:08:24", "text": "blood would be sort of compatible if we"}, {"start": "01:08:22", "end": "01:08:26", "text": "are"}, {"start": "01:08:24", "end": "01:08:28", "text": ">> related to these species that are taking"}, {"start": "01:08:26", "end": "01:08:31", "text": "these cows or whatever it is or taking"}, {"start": "01:08:28", "end": "01:08:34", "text": "their blood. But the the desanguination"}, {"start": "01:08:31", "end": "01:08:37", "text": "is just I think the most bizarre part of"}, {"start": "01:08:34", "end": "01:08:38", "text": "all this because there's never even in"}, {"start": "01:08:37", "end": "01:08:39", "text": "winter"}, {"start": "01:08:38", "end": "01:08:40", "text": ">> that's what like blew my mind."}, {"start": "01:08:39", "end": "01:08:42", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:08:40", "end": "01:08:44", "text": ">> I live in Canada, we get a lot of snow."}, {"start": "01:08:42", "end": "01:08:44", "text": "I take a piss in the snow. you're going"}, {"start": "01:08:44", "end": "01:08:48", "text": "to see it,"}, {"start": "01:08:44", "end": "01:08:50", "text": ">> right? Let alone if a a drop of blood"}, {"start": "01:08:48", "end": "01:08:53", "text": "touches the snow. These things have no"}, {"start": "01:08:50", "end": "01:08:55", "text": "blood in them. And there's no blood"}, {"start": "01:08:53", "end": "01:08:58", "text": "around them, no tracks leading up or"}, {"start": "01:08:55", "end": "01:09:01", "text": "going to or from them. No struggle."}, {"start": "01:08:58", "end": "01:09:02", "text": "They're just dead on their side,"}, {"start": "01:09:01", "end": "01:09:05", "text": ">> you know, with these holes bored in them"}, {"start": "01:09:02", "end": "01:09:06", "text": "and with no blood left. Like, what are"}, {"start": "01:09:05", "end": "01:09:08", "text": "you supposed to make of that, you know?"}, {"start": "01:09:06", "end": "01:09:10", "text": ">> Yeah. Like, how how do you frame that in"}, {"start": "01:09:08", "end": "01:09:13", "text": "a way that makes any sense? And I think"}, {"start": "01:09:10", "end": "01:09:15", "text": "hearing way out there theories is"}, {"start": "01:09:13", "end": "01:09:18", "text": "important because even if it's wrong,"}, {"start": "01:09:15", "end": "01:09:21", "text": "it's going to get you to think outside"}, {"start": "01:09:18", "end": "01:09:22", "text": "of your mindset and then you're going to"}, {"start": "01:09:21", "end": "01:09:24", "text": "make the real connection of what it is"}, {"start": "01:09:22", "end": "01:09:26", "text": "over here. So I think it's good to hear"}, {"start": "01:09:24", "end": "01:09:27", "text": "all these things. They're thought"}, {"start": "01:09:26", "end": "01:09:29", "text": "experiments even if you don't agree with"}, {"start": "01:09:27", "end": "01:09:29", "text": "it or you think, \"Oh, this is crazy.\""}, {"start": "01:09:29", "end": "01:09:31", "text": "Sure,"}, {"start": "01:09:29", "end": "01:09:32", "text": ">> but tell me anyways because I want the"}, {"start": "01:09:31", "end": "01:09:34", "text": "thought experience cuz it's going to"}, {"start": "01:09:32", "end": "01:09:36", "text": "it's going to get your mind going"}, {"start": "01:09:34", "end": "01:09:38", "text": "because we we work in these bubbles, you"}, {"start": "01:09:36", "end": "01:09:40", "text": "know, and and you need somebody to think"}, {"start": "01:09:38", "end": "01:09:42", "text": "outside of the box and to share a"}, {"start": "01:09:40", "end": "01:09:44", "text": "different perspective to help you make"}, {"start": "01:09:42", "end": "01:09:45", "text": "new perspectives that are different than"}, {"start": "01:09:44", "end": "01:09:48", "text": "the perspective they're sharing."}, {"start": "01:09:45", "end": "01:09:50", "text": ">> Correct. And I don't I don't I don't"}, {"start": "01:09:48", "end": "01:09:52", "text": "have a working theory on what the cattle"}, {"start": "01:09:50", "end": "01:09:56", "text": "mutilation thing is. Again, my brain"}, {"start": "01:09:52", "end": "01:09:58", "text": "goes to, you know, 1990s UFO"}, {"start": "01:09:56", "end": "01:09:59", "text": "picking up a cow and, you know, that's"}, {"start": "01:09:58", "end": "01:10:01", "text": "the visual I get. Same thing you say"}, {"start": "01:09:59", "end": "01:10:02", "text": "portal, bam, Rick and Morty appears in"}, {"start": "01:10:01", "end": "01:10:04", "text": "my head."}, {"start": "01:10:02", "end": "01:10:07", "text": ">> Well, whatever it is, the phenomenon is"}, {"start": "01:10:04", "end": "01:10:10", "text": "real. It's verifiable. Not every case"}, {"start": "01:10:07", "end": "01:10:12", "text": "is, but it absolutely is. Um, what is"}, {"start": "01:10:10", "end": "01:10:15", "text": "it? I don't know. I, you know, and I I"}, {"start": "01:10:12", "end": "01:10:17", "text": "feel like my theories are painfully"}, {"start": "01:10:15", "end": "01:10:18", "text": "lacking on what it could, what what"}, {"start": "01:10:17", "end": "01:10:20", "text": "their hypothesis,"}, {"start": "01:10:18", "end": "01:10:22", "text": ">> their hypothesis. And you know, of"}, {"start": "01:10:20", "end": "01:10:25", "text": "course, the brain goes to, you know, a"}, {"start": "01:10:22", "end": "01:10:27", "text": "nonhuman intelligence, but it could be"}, {"start": "01:10:25", "end": "01:10:28", "text": "something totally abstract that we don't"}, {"start": "01:10:27", "end": "01:10:28", "text": "even know,"}, {"start": "01:10:28", "end": "01:10:29", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "01:10:28", "end": "01:10:32", "text": ">> Absolutely could."}, {"start": "01:10:29", "end": "01:10:34", "text": ">> Could be some other primitive life form"}, {"start": "01:10:32", "end": "01:10:35", "text": "that that is intelligent in its own"}, {"start": "01:10:34", "end": "01:10:36", "text": "right, but that has nothing to do with"}, {"start": "01:10:35", "end": "01:10:36", "text": "our type of"}, {"start": "01:10:36", "end": "01:10:37", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:10:36", "end": "01:10:41", "text": ">> you know, intelligence."}, {"start": "01:10:37", "end": "01:10:43", "text": ">> Uh that's so fascinating. I'm very"}, {"start": "01:10:41", "end": "01:10:48", "text": "fascinated by all this in terms of um"}, {"start": "01:10:43", "end": "01:10:49", "text": "other biological anomalies that occur on"}, {"start": "01:10:48", "end": "01:10:51", "text": "the ranch."}, {"start": "01:10:49", "end": "01:10:53", "text": ">> What else sticks out to you? I know you"}, {"start": "01:10:51", "end": "01:10:55", "text": "mentioned something about plants. Is"}, {"start": "01:10:53", "end": "01:10:57", "text": "there any, you know, flora?"}, {"start": "01:10:55", "end": "01:10:59", "text": ">> So, so one of the things we found"}, {"start": "01:10:57", "end": "01:11:02", "text": "there's a region we call it the runway"}, {"start": "01:10:59", "end": "01:11:04", "text": "and it just the plants grow in what"}, {"start": "01:11:02", "end": "01:11:06", "text": "looks like a runway. We don't understand"}, {"start": "01:11:04", "end": "01:11:08", "text": "it. And there's a plant, it's called"}, {"start": "01:11:06", "end": "01:11:10", "text": "golden hairy aster. It's kind of wild"}, {"start": "01:11:08", "end": "01:11:12", "text": "name there, but it's this plant that"}, {"start": "01:11:10", "end": "01:11:15", "text": "grows there. And what we found is on"}, {"start": "01:11:12", "end": "01:11:17", "text": "either side of this runway, it was"}, {"start": "01:11:15", "end": "01:11:19", "text": "growing normal. And in the runway, it"}, {"start": "01:11:17", "end": "01:11:21", "text": "was the leaves were growing. It it"}, {"start": "01:11:19", "end": "01:11:24", "text": "looked like they had been radiated. They"}, {"start": "01:11:21", "end": "01:11:27", "text": "look they looked all like withered and"}, {"start": "01:11:24", "end": "01:11:29", "text": "like so when when radiation hits a life"}, {"start": "01:11:27", "end": "01:11:30", "text": "form, it mutates the cells. And you"}, {"start": "01:11:29", "end": "01:11:32", "text": "know, a cell is just, you know,"}, {"start": "01:11:30", "end": "01:11:35", "text": "reproduce reproduce. And if you're get"}, {"start": "01:11:32", "end": "01:11:37", "text": "the wrong code, you start growing. You"}, {"start": "01:11:35", "end": "01:11:40", "text": "become Yeah. And erratic. So they were"}, {"start": "01:11:37", "end": "01:11:42", "text": "doing that and I thought well could"}, {"start": "01:11:40", "end": "01:11:45", "text": "would the acidity and the alkalinity be"}, {"start": "01:11:42", "end": "01:11:47", "text": "different and so we said well it should"}, {"start": "01:11:45", "end": "01:11:50", "text": "be in the ground. So we took samples"}, {"start": "01:11:47", "end": "01:11:51", "text": "from the ground from these plants and"}, {"start": "01:11:50", "end": "01:11:53", "text": "checked them uh the plants themselves"}, {"start": "01:11:51", "end": "01:11:55", "text": "and in the ground and we did find a"}, {"start": "01:11:53", "end": "01:11:58", "text": "difference in the alkalinity and the"}, {"start": "01:11:55", "end": "01:12:00", "text": "acidity based off of in the runway"}, {"start": "01:11:58", "end": "01:12:00", "text": "versus on either side of it. We did find"}, {"start": "01:12:00", "end": "01:12:01", "text": "that"}, {"start": "01:12:00", "end": "01:12:04", "text": ">> right beside it."}, {"start": "01:12:01", "end": "01:12:05", "text": ">> Mhm. And we wanted to we didn't we we"}, {"start": "01:12:04", "end": "01:12:08", "text": "want to go back and do this. I want to"}, {"start": "01:12:05", "end": "01:12:11", "text": "also test for like isopods and and you"}, {"start": "01:12:08", "end": "01:12:13", "text": "know um small arthropods in the ground"}, {"start": "01:12:11", "end": "01:12:15", "text": "and see are they growing differently."}, {"start": "01:12:13", "end": "01:12:17", "text": "Are they affected by this? Um there's"}, {"start": "01:12:15", "end": "01:12:19", "text": "one plant that I love this plant. It's"}, {"start": "01:12:17", "end": "01:12:21", "text": "called a desert trumpet plant. It's in"}, {"start": "01:12:19", "end": "01:12:22", "text": "the buckwheat family. If you research"}, {"start": "01:12:21", "end": "01:12:24", "text": "it, you're going to get a lot of"}, {"start": "01:12:22", "end": "01:12:28", "text": "misinformation because it grows in these"}, {"start": "01:12:24", "end": "01:12:30", "text": "weird bulbs. And there's this this one"}, {"start": "01:12:28", "end": "01:12:33", "text": "guy like in the 70s wrote and said, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "01:12:30", "end": "01:12:34", "text": "this wasp burrows a hole and then it"}, {"start": "01:12:33", "end": "01:12:36", "text": "goes and grows that way.\" That's not why"}, {"start": "01:12:34", "end": "01:12:39", "text": "it grows that way. They do that after"}, {"start": "01:12:36", "end": "01:12:42", "text": "the fact. But it's such a strange and"}, {"start": "01:12:39", "end": "01:12:44", "text": "specific plant that Star Trek based an"}, {"start": "01:12:42", "end": "01:12:46", "text": "alien life form off of it. It's a really"}, {"start": "01:12:44", "end": "01:12:49", "text": "cool plant, but it grows in a"}, {"start": "01:12:46", "end": "01:12:50", "text": "mathematically perfect way. Uh I I wrote"}, {"start": "01:12:49", "end": "01:12:52", "text": "up the formula for the growth, like if"}, {"start": "01:12:50", "end": "01:12:54", "text": "you were going to code it into a"}, {"start": "01:12:52", "end": "01:12:56", "text": "computer and replicate it."}, {"start": "01:12:54", "end": "01:12:59", "text": ">> And on this one part of the ranch, it"}, {"start": "01:12:56", "end": "01:13:00", "text": "would grow the first stage normal, go to"}, {"start": "01:12:59", "end": "01:13:04", "text": "the second stage normal, and the last"}, {"start": "01:13:00", "end": "01:13:06", "text": "stage it went like totally crazy. and"}, {"start": "01:13:04", "end": "01:13:09", "text": "the next year they did not. And so if"}, {"start": "01:13:06", "end": "01:13:11", "text": "the So plants grow in stages and so the"}, {"start": "01:13:09", "end": "01:13:13", "text": "assumption is that there was an"}, {"start": "01:13:11", "end": "01:13:16", "text": "energetic event that happened kind of"}, {"start": "01:13:13", "end": "01:13:18", "text": "like with this golden aster something"}, {"start": "01:13:16", "end": "01:13:21", "text": "happened that year at this one growth"}, {"start": "01:13:18", "end": "01:13:23", "text": "stage. Something did it and that's the"}, {"start": "01:13:21", "end": "01:13:25", "text": "same field that the falcon disappeared"}, {"start": "01:13:23", "end": "01:13:27", "text": "on and then reappear over the triangle."}, {"start": "01:13:25", "end": "01:13:28", "text": "So"}, {"start": "01:13:27", "end": "01:13:31", "text": ">> you know so the plants are telling us"}, {"start": "01:13:28", "end": "01:13:32", "text": "things too. The plants are if you look"}, {"start": "01:13:31", "end": "01:13:34", "text": "and listen to what they're saying, the"}, {"start": "01:13:32", "end": "01:13:37", "text": "plants are the arthropods are the frogs"}, {"start": "01:13:34", "end": "01:13:39", "text": "are on the ranch. You know, I told we"}, {"start": "01:13:37", "end": "01:13:41", "text": "talked about the magpie nest. Yeah. That"}, {"start": "01:13:39", "end": "01:13:42", "text": "built or was that"}, {"start": "01:13:41", "end": "01:13:43", "text": ">> I think we talked about that breakfast"}, {"start": "01:13:42", "end": "01:13:44", "text": "if you want to go back to that cuz I"}, {"start": "01:13:43", "end": "01:13:47", "text": "thought that was really interesting."}, {"start": "01:13:44", "end": "01:13:48", "text": ">> So on that north south the path of the"}, {"start": "01:13:47", "end": "01:13:50", "text": "skinwalker that goes"}, {"start": "01:13:48", "end": "01:13:52", "text": ">> let's let's lay the land here a little"}, {"start": "01:13:50", "end": "01:13:54", "text": "bit. The path of the skinw walker what"}, {"start": "01:13:52", "end": "01:13:57", "text": "is that exactly and why is that an"}, {"start": "01:13:54", "end": "01:13:59", "text": "important place? So without getting too"}, {"start": "01:13:57", "end": "01:14:01", "text": "much into politics and again every tribe"}, {"start": "01:13:59", "end": "01:14:03", "text": "is going to share their history through"}, {"start": "01:14:01", "end": "01:14:06", "text": "their own voice, but the general uh what"}, {"start": "01:14:03", "end": "01:14:08", "text": "is told is that in the past the Ute"}, {"start": "01:14:06", "end": "01:14:10", "text": "tribe and the Navajo tribe, the Da had"}, {"start": "01:14:08", "end": "01:14:13", "text": "some beef and had some bad things happen"}, {"start": "01:14:10", "end": "01:14:15", "text": "between them. And so the Navajo cursed"}, {"start": "01:14:13", "end": "01:14:17", "text": "the Ute with the path of the Skinwalker"}, {"start": "01:14:15", "end": "01:14:19", "text": "that goes from the south from Navajo"}, {"start": "01:14:17", "end": "01:14:21", "text": "land up north to the Ute reservation"}, {"start": "01:14:19", "end": "01:14:24", "text": "which runs right through Skinwalker"}, {"start": "01:14:21", "end": "01:14:26", "text": "Ranch and along a very specific path."}, {"start": "01:14:24", "end": "01:14:27", "text": "And the ranch has a fence line going"}, {"start": "01:14:26", "end": "01:14:29", "text": "along that path. And there's"}, {"start": "01:14:27", "end": "01:14:31", "text": "petetroglyphs on this path. It's a very"}, {"start": "01:14:29", "end": "01:14:32", "text": "specific thing. It's not just loosely"}, {"start": "01:14:31", "end": "01:14:32", "text": "the path of the skinwalker. It's"}, {"start": "01:14:32", "end": "01:14:34", "text": "literally"}, {"start": "01:14:32", "end": "01:14:35", "text": ">> Have you walked this path?"}, {"start": "01:14:34", "end": "01:14:36", "text": ">> Yes. Yes."}, {"start": "01:14:35", "end": "01:14:38", "text": ">> Anything weird happened to you?"}, {"start": "01:14:36", "end": "01:14:40", "text": ">> Constantly. I mean, that's where that's"}, {"start": "01:14:38", "end": "01:14:42", "text": "where Yeah. That's where we lots of"}, {"start": "01:14:40", "end": "01:14:44", "text": "cattle mutilations have happened there."}, {"start": "01:14:42", "end": "01:14:46", "text": "If you watch the show, the big hole"}, {"start": "01:14:44", "end": "01:14:48", "text": "through the tree happened there. And the"}, {"start": "01:14:46", "end": "01:14:52", "text": "magpies. Magpies build a really specific"}, {"start": "01:14:48", "end": "01:14:54", "text": "nest. They make a um like a clay nest"}, {"start": "01:14:52", "end": "01:14:56", "text": "like a robin and then they make a stick"}, {"start": "01:14:54", "end": "01:14:58", "text": "nest around it with walls and a ceiling"}, {"start": "01:14:56", "end": "01:15:01", "text": "and a front door. It's very specific,"}, {"start": "01:14:58", "end": "01:15:03", "text": "very recognizable. And on this path in"}, {"start": "01:15:01", "end": "01:15:05", "text": "this tree right next to it, they build"}, {"start": "01:15:03", "end": "01:15:08", "text": "it, but they build it wrong. Like their"}, {"start": "01:15:05", "end": "01:15:10", "text": "orientation is wrong, their under axis"}, {"start": "01:15:08", "end": "01:15:12", "text": "is wrong. And so the eggs fall out and"}, {"start": "01:15:10", "end": "01:15:13", "text": "they lay more eggs. The eggs fall out."}, {"start": "01:15:12", "end": "01:15:15", "text": "They lay more eggs and they do it every"}, {"start": "01:15:13", "end": "01:15:17", "text": "year. They'll build a new nest. Same"}, {"start": "01:15:15", "end": "01:15:19", "text": "thing. And it's all crooked and the eggs"}, {"start": "01:15:17", "end": "01:15:22", "text": "keep falling out. So happens again and"}, {"start": "01:15:19", "end": "01:15:24", "text": "again and again every single time. And"}, {"start": "01:15:22", "end": "01:15:26", "text": ">> what do compasses? Do they act up in"}, {"start": "01:15:24", "end": "01:15:27", "text": "that area as well or there?"}, {"start": "01:15:26", "end": "01:15:28", "text": ">> Yes. Um"}, {"start": "01:15:27", "end": "01:15:30", "text": ">> so there does seem to be like a"}, {"start": "01:15:28", "end": "01:15:32", "text": "geomagnetic anomaly there."}, {"start": "01:15:30", "end": "01:15:35", "text": ">> Yeah. But the weird thing is like a"}, {"start": "01:15:32", "end": "01:15:37", "text": "regular compass will about half the time"}, {"start": "01:15:35", "end": "01:15:40", "text": "be messed up there and half the time it"}, {"start": "01:15:37", "end": "01:15:43", "text": "works. But if you have a digital compass"}, {"start": "01:15:40", "end": "01:15:44", "text": "on your phone, the anomaly is like, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "01:15:43", "end": "01:15:46", "text": "really?\""}, {"start": "01:15:44", "end": "01:15:48", "text": "and it'll like spin it and make it just"}, {"start": "01:15:46", "end": "01:15:50", "text": "do all kinds of crazy things. Meanwhile,"}, {"start": "01:15:48", "end": "01:15:52", "text": "you have a real compass and it's like,"}, {"start": "01:15:50", "end": "01:15:54", "text": "\"Okay, I'm messing with you a little.\""}, {"start": "01:15:52", "end": "01:15:56", "text": "But if it's digital, it has a heyday. It"}, {"start": "01:15:54", "end": "01:15:59", "text": "goes wild. Absolutely wild."}, {"start": "01:15:56", "end": "01:16:00", "text": ">> That's so silly cuz this should not be"}, {"start": "01:15:59", "end": "01:16:02", "text": "related."}, {"start": "01:16:00", "end": "01:16:02", "text": ">> Yeah. What does digital have to do with"}, {"start": "01:16:02", "end": "01:16:03", "text": "it?"}, {"start": "01:16:02", "end": "01:16:03", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:16:03", "end": "01:16:06", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:16:03", "end": "01:16:09", "text": ">> Whoa. Okay. So, this"}, {"start": "01:16:06", "end": "01:16:12", "text": "I mean this is so this makes me want to"}, {"start": "01:16:09", "end": "01:16:13", "text": "go out there. Um, do you ever think do"}, {"start": "01:16:12", "end": "01:16:15", "text": "like if I if I went there, do you think"}, {"start": "01:16:13", "end": "01:16:17", "text": "they would they would give me a tour"}, {"start": "01:16:15", "end": "01:16:18", "text": ">> if you if if we connected with with"}, {"start": "01:16:17", "end": "01:16:19", "text": "Brandon? Um,"}, {"start": "01:16:18", "end": "01:16:20", "text": ">> yeah, I have his phone number."}, {"start": "01:16:19", "end": "01:16:24", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. You"}, {"start": "01:16:20", "end": "01:16:26", "text": ">> we've spoken maybe a year ago cuz um uh"}, {"start": "01:16:24", "end": "01:16:28", "text": "I have some friends out in Utah as well"}, {"start": "01:16:26", "end": "01:16:30", "text": "and and they know Brandon and they're"}, {"start": "01:16:28", "end": "01:16:30", "text": "putting me in touch and whatnot, but I"}, {"start": "01:16:30", "end": "01:16:33", "text": "know he's a busy guy."}, {"start": "01:16:30", "end": "01:16:35", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. He's he's really cool and if"}, {"start": "01:16:33", "end": "01:16:36", "text": "you can get him and he's busy, you know,"}, {"start": "01:16:35", "end": "01:16:38", "text": "he he'd probably be open to that. He's"}, {"start": "01:16:36", "end": "01:16:40", "text": "It's not just like open for business,"}, {"start": "01:16:38", "end": "01:16:42", "text": "but you know, but he loves to help"}, {"start": "01:16:40", "end": "01:16:44", "text": "people get a get a beat on it and"}, {"start": "01:16:42", "end": "01:16:46", "text": "understand and help push this"}, {"start": "01:16:44", "end": "01:16:47", "text": "information out there. So, I I think"}, {"start": "01:16:46", "end": "01:16:48", "text": "he'd be very open to it."}, {"start": "01:16:47", "end": "01:16:50", "text": ">> Yeah, it'd be interesting. I'd be"}, {"start": "01:16:48", "end": "01:16:52", "text": "interested. There is the you know the"}, {"start": "01:16:50", "end": "01:16:54", "text": "one concern that the audience keeps"}, {"start": "01:16:52", "end": "01:16:55", "text": "bringing up with with this stuff as well"}, {"start": "01:16:54", "end": "01:16:57", "text": "as friends who talk to me about it is"}, {"start": "01:16:55", "end": "01:17:00", "text": "this hitchhiker effect"}, {"start": "01:16:57", "end": "01:17:03", "text": ">> and that is this this idea that by"}, {"start": "01:17:00", "end": "01:17:06", "text": "visiting this place you are then opening"}, {"start": "01:17:03", "end": "01:17:07", "text": "yourself up to the phenomenon in a way"}, {"start": "01:17:06", "end": "01:17:09", "text": "that will follow you"}, {"start": "01:17:07", "end": "01:17:11", "text": ">> uh back to back to your home. Have you"}, {"start": "01:17:09", "end": "01:17:13", "text": "experienced the hitchhiker effect?"}, {"start": "01:17:11", "end": "01:17:15", "text": ">> I am one of the only people who has not"}, {"start": "01:17:13", "end": "01:17:18", "text": "and I'm grateful for that. just about"}, {"start": "01:17:15", "end": "01:17:20", "text": "everybody who's who I know of who's like"}, {"start": "01:17:18", "end": "01:17:21", "text": "the the main team on the ranch, you"}, {"start": "01:17:20", "end": "01:17:22", "text": "know, there's there's other contractors"}, {"start": "01:17:21", "end": "01:17:25", "text": "that maybe come like once a season kind"}, {"start": "01:17:22", "end": "01:17:27", "text": "of thing, but but um the just about"}, {"start": "01:17:25", "end": "01:17:29", "text": "everybody I know has had some sort of a"}, {"start": "01:17:27", "end": "01:17:32", "text": "skin uh some sort of a hitchhiker effect"}, {"start": "01:17:29", "end": "01:17:35", "text": "happen to them and I haven't. I've had I"}, {"start": "01:17:32", "end": "01:17:37", "text": "think more strange things happen to me"}, {"start": "01:17:35", "end": "01:17:39", "text": "on the ranch kind of in the paranormal"}, {"start": "01:17:37", "end": "01:17:41", "text": "kind of more of like in the ghostly type"}, {"start": "01:17:39", "end": "01:17:44", "text": "stuff than most people have that I've"}, {"start": "01:17:41", "end": "01:17:46", "text": "talked to. But off the ranch, I've had"}, {"start": "01:17:44", "end": "01:17:47", "text": "basically nothing."}, {"start": "01:17:46", "end": "01:17:48", "text": ">> What's your explanation for that? What"}, {"start": "01:17:47", "end": "01:17:51", "text": "makes you immune?"}, {"start": "01:17:48", "end": "01:17:55", "text": ">> I I'm not I don't know. I don't know. I"}, {"start": "01:17:51", "end": "01:17:57", "text": "don't I'm I come in really wanting to"}, {"start": "01:17:55", "end": "01:17:59", "text": "understand very much. So, I don't come"}, {"start": "01:17:57", "end": "01:18:01", "text": "in as a believer, but as a it's like,"}, {"start": "01:17:59", "end": "01:18:03", "text": "hey, there's something here. I want to"}, {"start": "01:18:01", "end": "01:18:05", "text": "understand it. And I very very much want"}, {"start": "01:18:03", "end": "01:18:07", "text": "to understand it. And that I mean,"}, {"start": "01:18:05", "end": "01:18:08", "text": "that's what I love about it. For me,"}, {"start": "01:18:07", "end": "01:18:11", "text": "when I had this opportunity, I jumped at"}, {"start": "01:18:08", "end": "01:18:12", "text": "it because I thought I don't want an"}, {"start": "01:18:11", "end": "01:18:14", "text": "anecdotal story. I want to know"}, {"start": "01:18:12", "end": "01:18:16", "text": "firsthand. I want my own photos, my own"}, {"start": "01:18:14", "end": "01:18:19", "text": "data that I And for anybody else now,"}, {"start": "01:18:16", "end": "01:18:21", "text": "it's anecdotal to them. I'm sorry. And"}, {"start": "01:18:19", "end": "01:18:23", "text": "if you don't believe me, I don't care."}, {"start": "01:18:21", "end": "01:18:25", "text": "That's fine. I salute you. Great. You"}, {"start": "01:18:23", "end": "01:18:27", "text": "don't believe me? Fine. But I'm sharing"}, {"start": "01:18:25", "end": "01:18:28", "text": "I'm just sharing the experiences. Take"}, {"start": "01:18:27", "end": "01:18:30", "text": "it as you will and do what you want with"}, {"start": "01:18:28", "end": "01:18:32", "text": "it. I am just reporting back cuz I've"}, {"start": "01:18:30", "end": "01:18:34", "text": "been grateful for this opportunity and I"}, {"start": "01:18:32", "end": "01:18:36", "text": "want to share as much of it as I'm"}, {"start": "01:18:34", "end": "01:18:38", "text": "allowed to. And I want other minds on"}, {"start": "01:18:36", "end": "01:18:40", "text": "it. I want other people because I mean,"}, {"start": "01:18:38", "end": "01:18:42", "text": "think about it. I'm making assumptions"}, {"start": "01:18:40", "end": "01:18:45", "text": "that might not be connected. They might"}, {"start": "01:18:42", "end": "01:18:46", "text": "have not a jaguar might be totally"}, {"start": "01:18:45", "end": "01:18:48", "text": "unrelated. It might just be"}, {"start": "01:18:46", "end": "01:18:50", "text": "coincidental. If there's a jaguar"}, {"start": "01:18:48", "end": "01:18:52", "text": "running around up there, that could be a"}, {"start": "01:18:50", "end": "01:18:54", "text": "totally unrelated thing. And Ben the"}, {"start": "01:18:52", "end": "01:18:55", "text": "biologist says, \"Oh, this is connected.\""}, {"start": "01:18:54", "end": "01:18:58", "text": "Maybe it's not."}, {"start": "01:18:55", "end": "01:19:01", "text": ">> And so having other people talking about"}, {"start": "01:18:58", "end": "01:19:05", "text": "this and and questioning it is good. So"}, {"start": "01:19:01", "end": "01:19:08", "text": "you think your open-mindedness is"}, {"start": "01:19:05", "end": "01:19:09", "text": "warding off this hitchhiker effect to"}, {"start": "01:19:08", "end": "01:19:13", "text": "some extent?"}, {"start": "01:19:09", "end": "01:19:16", "text": ">> I think well I think it is instead it is"}, {"start": "01:19:13", "end": "01:19:18", "text": "toning down the trickster element. I"}, {"start": "01:19:16", "end": "01:19:19", "text": "think it I I I've had a lot of"}, {"start": "01:19:18", "end": "01:19:22", "text": "experiences some of them I don't share"}, {"start": "01:19:19", "end": "01:19:24", "text": "publicly that seem to be like it's"}, {"start": "01:19:22", "end": "01:19:27", "text": "trying to show me and teach me. I' I've"}, {"start": "01:19:24", "end": "01:19:29", "text": "had more teaching moments. I think um I"}, {"start": "01:19:27", "end": "01:19:31", "text": "think a lot of the people have come in"}, {"start": "01:19:29", "end": "01:19:34", "text": "with healthy skepticism. A lot of them"}, {"start": "01:19:31", "end": "01:19:36", "text": "have no background in this kind of"}, {"start": "01:19:34", "end": "01:19:38", "text": "stuff. You know, it's a it's just like"}, {"start": "01:19:36", "end": "01:19:41", "text": "raw regular science and and and so"}, {"start": "01:19:38", "end": "01:19:44", "text": "they're just highly skeptical, which is"}, {"start": "01:19:41", "end": "01:19:47", "text": "good. Well, I always say don't don't be"}, {"start": "01:19:44", "end": "01:19:49", "text": "a skeptic, be skeptical. A skeptic is a"}, {"start": "01:19:47", "end": "01:19:51", "text": "predetermined. I don't believe Yeah."}, {"start": "01:19:49", "end": "01:19:53", "text": "Say, uh show me the evidence and let me"}, {"start": "01:19:51", "end": "01:19:55", "text": "make my ass. That's good. It's hard to"}, {"start": "01:19:53", "end": "01:19:57", "text": "be skeptical, but I think there's so"}, {"start": "01:19:55", "end": "01:19:58", "text": "many people who come in so brash and and"}, {"start": "01:19:57", "end": "01:20:00", "text": "they don't they want to don't want to be"}, {"start": "01:19:58", "end": "01:20:03", "text": "made a fool. I don't care to be a fool."}, {"start": "01:20:00", "end": "01:20:05", "text": "If I'm wrong, oh, I was wrong. Okay,"}, {"start": "01:20:03", "end": "01:20:07", "text": "let's recalibrate. I don't mind being"}, {"start": "01:20:05", "end": "01:20:10", "text": "wrong. I don't I don't mind that. And"}, {"start": "01:20:07", "end": "01:20:12", "text": "so, I've had a lot of instances where"}, {"start": "01:20:10", "end": "01:20:14", "text": "kind of the trickster element. I I think"}, {"start": "01:20:12", "end": "01:20:15", "text": "among everybody there, my phone has been"}, {"start": "01:20:14", "end": "01:20:17", "text": "hacked in the least. I think it's only"}, {"start": "01:20:15", "end": "01:20:20", "text": "happened twice. It was like the first"}, {"start": "01:20:17", "end": "01:20:22", "text": "season there. That's so crazy to me that"}, {"start": "01:20:20", "end": "01:20:23", "text": "your phone's been hacked in twice and"}, {"start": "01:20:22", "end": "01:20:25", "text": "it's happened the least."}, {"start": "01:20:23", "end": "01:20:26", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. People have to have to"}, {"start": "01:20:25", "end": "01:20:28", "text": "replace their phones."}, {"start": "01:20:26", "end": "01:20:30", "text": ">> If I'm going there with my phone there,"}, {"start": "01:20:28", "end": "01:20:31", "text": "you're saying there's a 100% chance that"}, {"start": "01:20:30", "end": "01:20:34", "text": "my phone will act up."}, {"start": "01:20:31", "end": "01:20:36", "text": ">> Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. It especially"}, {"start": "01:20:34", "end": "01:20:36", "text": ">> I would document the hell out of my"}, {"start": "01:20:36", "end": "01:20:38", "text": "phone."}, {"start": "01:20:36", "end": "01:20:40", "text": ">> Yeah. Get a second phone and film it."}, {"start": "01:20:38", "end": "01:20:41", "text": ">> Exactly. Or a camera, not a phone, to"}, {"start": "01:20:40", "end": "01:20:44", "text": "film my phone cuz that'll act up too."}, {"start": "01:20:41", "end": "01:20:45", "text": ">> Yeah. But Yeah. And some people it ruins"}, {"start": "01:20:44", "end": "01:20:48", "text": "their phone completely and scramble it"}, {"start": "01:20:45", "end": "01:20:54", "text": "and they have to get a new one. Um and"}, {"start": "01:20:48", "end": "01:21:00", "text": "so you know so you're saying that the"}, {"start": "01:20:54", "end": "01:21:01", "text": "phenomenon is obviously aware"}, {"start": "01:21:00", "end": "01:21:02", "text": "on some conscious level."}, {"start": "01:21:01", "end": "01:21:04", "text": ">> It behaves that way"}, {"start": "01:21:02", "end": "01:21:05", "text": ">> of what your intention is"}, {"start": "01:21:04", "end": "01:21:07", "text": ">> and it knows ahead of time"}, {"start": "01:21:05", "end": "01:21:08", "text": ">> and so what do you mean it knows ahead"}, {"start": "01:21:07", "end": "01:21:10", "text": "of time?"}, {"start": "01:21:08", "end": "01:21:11", "text": ">> It it it's it somehow it can anticipate."}, {"start": "01:21:10", "end": "01:21:13", "text": "If you're going to do an experiment it"}, {"start": "01:21:11", "end": "01:21:15", "text": "knows what the experiment's going to be."}, {"start": "01:21:13", "end": "01:21:17", "text": "Do you ever have things that happened to"}, {"start": "01:21:15", "end": "01:21:18", "text": "you before going to Skinwalker Ranch"}, {"start": "01:21:17", "end": "01:21:20", "text": "that are sort of in hindsight you go,"}, {"start": "01:21:18", "end": "01:21:21", "text": "\"Oh, it was preparing me or it was"}, {"start": "01:21:20", "end": "01:21:22", "text": "showing me or it was telling me"}, {"start": "01:21:21", "end": "01:21:24", "text": "something?\""}, {"start": "01:21:22", "end": "01:21:25", "text": ">> There's been things that that might just"}, {"start": "01:21:24", "end": "01:21:26", "text": "be synchronicity. It might be you're"}, {"start": "01:21:25", "end": "01:21:28", "text": "seeing what you want to see and I can't"}, {"start": "01:21:26", "end": "01:21:30", "text": "rule that out. But there's some things"}, {"start": "01:21:28", "end": "01:21:32", "text": "where like I'll meet somebody or have a"}, {"start": "01:21:30", "end": "01:21:33", "text": "conversation ahead of time and then I"}, {"start": "01:21:32", "end": "01:21:34", "text": "get to the ranch and"}, {"start": "01:21:33", "end": "01:21:36", "text": ">> it'll feel just totally synchronous"}, {"start": "01:21:34", "end": "01:21:37", "text": ">> lines up which that could just be"}, {"start": "01:21:36", "end": "01:21:39", "text": "coincidence."}, {"start": "01:21:37", "end": "01:21:41", "text": ">> Could be also like a synchronicity"}, {"start": "01:21:39", "end": "01:21:44", "text": "generator happening type thing. Like I"}, {"start": "01:21:41", "end": "01:21:46", "text": "mean I wouldn't completely put it past"}, {"start": "01:21:44", "end": "01:21:48", "text": "like if we're also delving into this"}, {"start": "01:21:46", "end": "01:21:50", "text": "sort of paranormal or transdimensional"}, {"start": "01:21:48", "end": "01:21:53", "text": "you know hypothesis then you know the"}, {"start": "01:21:50", "end": "01:21:55", "text": "idea that synchronicities might also be"}, {"start": "01:21:53", "end": "01:21:56", "text": "enhanced in and around this place I"}, {"start": "01:21:55", "end": "01:21:59", "text": "think would be fair to say."}, {"start": "01:21:56", "end": "01:22:02", "text": ">> Absolutely. Absolutely. Um, okay. So,"}, {"start": "01:21:59", "end": "01:22:04", "text": "the best I'm trying to in my head I'm"}, {"start": "01:22:02", "end": "01:22:06", "text": "trying to like build up armor here for"}, {"start": "01:22:04", "end": "01:22:09", "text": "for you know an eventual trek to this"}, {"start": "01:22:06", "end": "01:22:13", "text": "area and I might you know I I think I do"}, {"start": "01:22:09", "end": "01:22:17", "text": "have a a healthy balance of u skepticism"}, {"start": "01:22:13", "end": "01:22:19", "text": "but open-mindedness and and um"}, {"start": "01:22:17", "end": "01:22:21", "text": ">> this is actually helping me uh prepare"}, {"start": "01:22:19", "end": "01:22:24", "text": "because I hear about these stories and"}, {"start": "01:22:21", "end": "01:22:27", "text": "although you know part of me wants to"}, {"start": "01:22:24", "end": "01:22:29", "text": "chalk it up to"}, {"start": "01:22:27", "end": "01:22:33", "text": "confirmation bias"}, {"start": "01:22:29", "end": "01:22:35", "text": "to, you know, a suggestion cuz"}, {"start": "01:22:33", "end": "01:22:37", "text": "suggestion is very powerful as well."}, {"start": "01:22:35", "end": "01:22:38", "text": "Like if um if you're completely against"}, {"start": "01:22:37", "end": "01:22:40", "text": "being hypnotized and you're like, I"}, {"start": "01:22:38", "end": "01:22:42", "text": "don't believe in hypnosis and you'll"}, {"start": "01:22:40", "end": "01:22:44", "text": "never hypnotize me."}, {"start": "01:22:42", "end": "01:22:46", "text": ">> And then which you're right, you won't"}, {"start": "01:22:44", "end": "01:22:49", "text": "be able to. But then if your best friend"}, {"start": "01:22:46", "end": "01:22:51", "text": "who you've known since you were a child,"}, {"start": "01:22:49", "end": "01:22:53", "text": "I hypnotized them in front of you,"}, {"start": "01:22:51", "end": "01:22:55", "text": ">> something in the back of your mind in"}, {"start": "01:22:53", "end": "01:22:57", "text": "your subconscious changes. Yeah. You"}, {"start": "01:22:55", "end": "01:22:59", "text": "might still say, \"Well, he's just, you"}, {"start": "01:22:57", "end": "01:23:01", "text": "know, in on it, or you'll never get me.\""}, {"start": "01:22:59", "end": "01:23:03", "text": "But something fundamentally changes to"}, {"start": "01:23:01", "end": "01:23:03", "text": "where now you're able to being"}, {"start": "01:23:03", "end": "01:23:04", "text": "hypnotized."}, {"start": "01:23:03", "end": "01:23:05", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:23:04", "end": "01:23:07", "text": ">> And and so"}, {"start": "01:23:05", "end": "01:23:09", "text": ">> I I think about that a lot when this"}, {"start": "01:23:07", "end": "01:23:11", "text": "hitchhiker effect occurs and you have"}, {"start": "01:23:09", "end": "01:23:14", "text": "these skeptics going in these staunch"}, {"start": "01:23:11", "end": "01:23:16", "text": "sort of debunkers and they're the ones"}, {"start": "01:23:14", "end": "01:23:18", "text": "who seem to be affected the most"}, {"start": "01:23:16", "end": "01:23:21", "text": ">> and attacked. I I don't like saying it."}, {"start": "01:23:18", "end": "01:23:22", "text": "I mean, because I I love everybody who's"}, {"start": "01:23:21", "end": "01:23:24", "text": "everybody I've met out there who works"}, {"start": "01:23:22", "end": "01:23:26", "text": "both both the the people doing the"}, {"start": "01:23:24", "end": "01:23:28", "text": "research and people doing security and"}, {"start": "01:23:26", "end": "01:23:30", "text": "even the film crew, you know, I've"}, {"start": "01:23:28", "end": "01:23:32", "text": "worked with film crews on other projects"}, {"start": "01:23:30", "end": "01:23:34", "text": "and it's like there's always some drama,"}, {"start": "01:23:32", "end": "01:23:36", "text": "right? Zero drama. These are good"}, {"start": "01:23:34", "end": "01:23:37", "text": "people. They're sincere. A lot of them"}, {"start": "01:23:36", "end": "01:23:39", "text": "are skeptical, too, but they're like,"}, {"start": "01:23:37", "end": "01:23:42", "text": "\"Hey, we're just going to film this and"}, {"start": "01:23:39", "end": "01:23:45", "text": "document this.\" Good people. But I have"}, {"start": "01:23:42", "end": "01:23:48", "text": "seen that if if you if you So, if you go"}, {"start": "01:23:45", "end": "01:23:49", "text": "to the ranch, go with a teach me. just"}, {"start": "01:23:48", "end": "01:23:52", "text": "come with that attitude. Be like, \"Hey,"}, {"start": "01:23:49", "end": "01:23:53", "text": "I'm I'm skeptical. I'm not a skeptic. I"}, {"start": "01:23:52", "end": "01:23:54", "text": "just want to learn. I want to"}, {"start": "01:23:53", "end": "01:23:56", "text": "experience. I want to feel. And I"}, {"start": "01:23:54", "end": "01:23:58", "text": "understand. I might have a little"}, {"start": "01:23:56", "end": "01:24:00", "text": "confirmation bias that might be kind of"}, {"start": "01:23:58", "end": "01:24:02", "text": "leading me on. I'm aware of that, but"}, {"start": "01:24:00", "end": "01:24:06", "text": "still teach me and it'll show you"}, {"start": "01:24:02", "end": "01:24:07", "text": "things.\" Um, but if you and like me, I"}, {"start": "01:24:06", "end": "01:24:09", "text": "mean, that's always been my attitude,"}, {"start": "01:24:07", "end": "01:24:10", "text": "right? But like this is the portal"}, {"start": "01:24:09", "end": "01:24:11", "text": "story."}, {"start": "01:24:10", "end": "01:24:13", "text": ">> Sure. Yeah. Let's get into this."}, {"start": "01:24:11", "end": "01:24:15", "text": ">> But this is one of those ones where I"}, {"start": "01:24:13", "end": "01:24:18", "text": "kind of questioned it and what happened."}, {"start": "01:24:15", "end": "01:24:20", "text": "It was kind of interesting. So, um me"}, {"start": "01:24:18", "end": "01:24:22", "text": "and uh one of my friends, Charlie, we"}, {"start": "01:24:20", "end": "01:24:23", "text": "were there and we it was night time and"}, {"start": "01:24:22", "end": "01:24:26", "text": "we said, \"Let's go do some"}, {"start": "01:24:23", "end": "01:24:27", "text": "astrophotography.\" And it's great night,"}, {"start": "01:24:26", "end": "01:24:30", "text": "Milky Way out. So, we went over to this"}, {"start": "01:24:27", "end": "01:24:33", "text": "area. Um and we put up our cameras,"}, {"start": "01:24:30", "end": "01:24:34", "text": "start taking pictures. And this isn't"}, {"start": "01:24:33", "end": "01:24:36", "text": "important, but I I share this is part of"}, {"start": "01:24:34", "end": "01:24:38", "text": "the story. All of a sudden, we heard"}, {"start": "01:24:36", "end": "01:24:40", "text": "something going along the creek. And you"}, {"start": "01:24:38", "end": "01:24:42", "text": "know, maybe it was just a coyote or"}, {"start": "01:24:40", "end": "01:24:44", "text": "raccoon, but all the frogs and crickets"}, {"start": "01:24:42", "end": "01:24:46", "text": "stopped, stopped, stop, and we got this"}, {"start": "01:24:44", "end": "01:24:48", "text": "kind of creepy feeling. Great. Who cares"}, {"start": "01:24:46", "end": "01:24:50", "text": "about feelings? Feelings. But anyways,"}, {"start": "01:24:48", "end": "01:24:52", "text": "that kind of creeped us out for a bit,"}, {"start": "01:24:50", "end": "01:24:54", "text": "but then it went away and that feeling"}, {"start": "01:24:52", "end": "01:24:55", "text": "got away. It went back to normal. We got"}, {"start": "01:24:54", "end": "01:24:57", "text": "all these great photos. We're having a"}, {"start": "01:24:55", "end": "01:24:59", "text": "good time. And I said, \"You know what,"}, {"start": "01:24:57", "end": "01:25:02", "text": "Charlie? Sometimes this ranch is really"}, {"start": "01:24:59", "end": "01:25:04", "text": "creepy feeling. And sometimes, like"}, {"start": "01:25:02", "end": "01:25:06", "text": "right now, it just feels like a regular"}, {"start": "01:25:04", "end": "01:25:07", "text": "beautiful old ranch in northern Utah.\""}, {"start": "01:25:06", "end": "01:25:09", "text": "He's like, \"Yeah, I know what you mean."}, {"start": "01:25:07", "end": "01:25:11", "text": "Like right now, it's just a cool,"}, {"start": "01:25:09", "end": "01:25:13", "text": "beautiful place at night.\" And the"}, {"start": "01:25:11", "end": "01:25:17", "text": "second we both said that, we hear a"}, {"start": "01:25:13", "end": "01:25:21", "text": "sound and it's if you shoot a 22 bullet"}, {"start": "01:25:17", "end": "01:25:23", "text": "across the desert, that"}, {"start": "01:25:21", "end": "01:25:25", "text": ">> and also if you've ever been on a frozen"}, {"start": "01:25:23", "end": "01:25:27", "text": "lake, that"}, {"start": "01:25:25", "end": "01:25:27", "text": "that breaking sound. It was those two"}, {"start": "01:25:27", "end": "01:25:28", "text": "sounds."}, {"start": "01:25:27", "end": "01:25:31", "text": ">> You're pretty good at those sounds, by"}, {"start": "01:25:28", "end": "01:25:34", "text": "the way. is is those two sounds together"}, {"start": "01:25:31", "end": "01:25:37", "text": "and we both turn to it and we look over"}, {"start": "01:25:34", "end": "01:25:40", "text": "in about 8 9 ft up I don't know like 20"}, {"start": "01:25:37", "end": "01:25:42", "text": "30 ft away we see and it had already"}, {"start": "01:25:40", "end": "01:25:46", "text": "started we see an expansion ring coming"}, {"start": "01:25:42", "end": "01:25:48", "text": "out now it was lit but it was not"}, {"start": "01:25:46", "end": "01:25:51", "text": "self-elilluminating if it was like it"}, {"start": "01:25:48", "end": "01:25:53", "text": "was expanding out so fast horizontally"}, {"start": "01:25:51", "end": "01:25:56", "text": "that if you've ever seen like explosions"}, {"start": "01:25:53", "end": "01:25:58", "text": "in slow motion where the shock wave that"}, {"start": "01:25:56", "end": "01:25:59", "text": "comes first will sometimes compress and"}, {"start": "01:25:58", "end": "01:26:01", "text": "make water vapor. Okay,"}, {"start": "01:25:59", "end": "01:26:04", "text": ">> that's what it was. It was a water vapor"}, {"start": "01:26:01", "end": "01:26:06", "text": "ring from the speed of it coming out and"}, {"start": "01:26:04", "end": "01:26:09", "text": "it was illuminated by the stars. Like it"}, {"start": "01:26:06", "end": "01:26:12", "text": "was it l it wasn't light. It wasn't"}, {"start": "01:26:09", "end": "01:26:13", "text": "producing light, but it was reflecting"}, {"start": "01:26:12", "end": "01:26:16", "text": "the star light out. And we look and we"}, {"start": "01:26:13", "end": "01:26:19", "text": "just see this and we're like and it was"}, {"start": "01:26:16", "end": "01:26:21", "text": "and it probably was about 8 9 10 feet"}, {"start": "01:26:19", "end": "01:26:24", "text": "out when we looked over and it got to"}, {"start": "01:26:21", "end": "01:26:26", "text": "about 40 feet and we said, \"Oh, let's"}, {"start": "01:26:24", "end": "01:26:28", "text": "let's get out of here.\" So, we packed up"}, {"start": "01:26:26", "end": "01:26:31", "text": "our stuff and we start walking towards"}, {"start": "01:26:28", "end": "01:26:33", "text": "uh Homestead 1 and the command center"}, {"start": "01:26:31", "end": "01:26:34", "text": "right next to each other. We're going"}, {"start": "01:26:33", "end": "01:26:37", "text": "towards them and all of a sudden the"}, {"start": "01:26:34", "end": "01:26:42", "text": "command center, the lights go"}, {"start": "01:26:37", "end": "01:26:43", "text": "and go off and then go back on. And Tom"}, {"start": "01:26:42", "end": "01:26:45", "text": "came out and he's like, \"Hey, I was"}, {"start": "01:26:43", "end": "01:26:46", "text": "looking for you guys. You guys okay?\""}, {"start": "01:26:45", "end": "01:26:48", "text": "And we said, \"Yeah, the power just went"}, {"start": "01:26:46", "end": "01:26:49", "text": "out.\" He's like, \"What do you mean? I"}, {"start": "01:26:48", "end": "01:26:50", "text": "was in the ranch house. Power didn't go"}, {"start": "01:26:49", "end": "01:26:52", "text": "out.\" Like, \"No, it went off in the"}, {"start": "01:26:50", "end": "01:26:54", "text": "command center.\" He said, \"That's"}, {"start": "01:26:52", "end": "01:26:56", "text": "impossible. They're on the same breaker."}, {"start": "01:26:54", "end": "01:27:00", "text": "If one goes off, they both go off. And"}, {"start": "01:26:56", "end": "01:27:01", "text": "we're like, we just saw this. And so, I"}, {"start": "01:27:00", "end": "01:27:02", "text": "don't know what to make of that, but I"}, {"start": "01:27:01", "end": "01:27:04", "text": "kind of take it to mean that the ranch"}, {"start": "01:27:02", "end": "01:27:06", "text": "was like, \"Oh, yeah, just a normal"}, {"start": "01:27:04", "end": "01:27:08", "text": "ranch, huh? You know better than this."}, {"start": "01:27:06", "end": "01:27:10", "text": "You experienced too much already. How"}, {"start": "01:27:08", "end": "01:27:12", "text": "dare you say that? I'll show you.\""}, {"start": "01:27:10", "end": "01:27:13", "text": ">> Maybe that's not it. Maybe it's totally"}, {"start": "01:27:12", "end": "01:27:16", "text": "unrelated."}, {"start": "01:27:13", "end": "01:27:17", "text": ">> Some explosion out there, some weird EMP"}, {"start": "01:27:16", "end": "01:27:20", "text": "bomb or I don't even know."}, {"start": "01:27:17", "end": "01:27:21", "text": ">> But whatever whatever it was, I mean,"}, {"start": "01:27:20", "end": "01:27:25", "text": "the timing was immediate."}, {"start": "01:27:21", "end": "01:27:28", "text": ">> Mhm. and it that sound and just that"}, {"start": "01:27:25", "end": "01:27:30", "text": "expansion um and it it I don't think it"}, {"start": "01:27:28", "end": "01:27:32", "text": "was the same thing but you understand in"}, {"start": "01:27:30", "end": "01:27:34", "text": "the Bigalow era that you know they they"}, {"start": "01:27:32", "end": "01:27:36", "text": "documented"}, {"start": "01:27:34", "end": "01:27:38", "text": "uh vertical portals and things coming"}, {"start": "01:27:36", "end": "01:27:39", "text": "through them so I don't know if that's"}, {"start": "01:27:38", "end": "01:27:42", "text": "the same thing but"}, {"start": "01:27:39", "end": "01:27:44", "text": ">> in hindsight would you go towards it"}, {"start": "01:27:42", "end": "01:27:46", "text": ">> I would have now yeah"}, {"start": "01:27:44", "end": "01:27:48", "text": ">> yeah if you told me hey you're about to"}, {"start": "01:27:46", "end": "01:27:50", "text": "see this and go towards it I would have"}, {"start": "01:27:48", "end": "01:27:53", "text": "um but I was too spooked at the time it"}, {"start": "01:27:50", "end": "01:27:54", "text": "it shocked me too much. Um, there's"}, {"start": "01:27:53", "end": "01:27:55", "text": "things like that on"}, {"start": "01:27:54", "end": "01:27:56", "text": ">> I would have probably had the same"}, {"start": "01:27:55", "end": "01:27:57", "text": "reaction like, \"Let's get the hell out"}, {"start": "01:27:56", "end": "01:27:59", "text": "of here.\""}, {"start": "01:27:57", "end": "01:28:00", "text": ">> In hindsight, you go, \"God, should have"}, {"start": "01:27:59", "end": "01:28:01", "text": "walked towards it.\""}, {"start": "01:28:00", "end": "01:28:03", "text": ">> Well, same thing. We'll hear voices on"}, {"start": "01:28:01", "end": "01:28:04", "text": "the ranch and usually you walk away from"}, {"start": "01:28:03", "end": "01:28:06", "text": "them."}, {"start": "01:28:04", "end": "01:28:07", "text": ">> Um, sometimes walk towards them."}, {"start": "01:28:06", "end": "01:28:09", "text": ">> What kind of voices?"}, {"start": "01:28:07", "end": "01:28:12", "text": ">> Well, my first one, this was this is at"}, {"start": "01:28:09", "end": "01:28:15", "text": "Homestead. This Homestead 3. It's the"}, {"start": "01:28:12", "end": "01:28:16", "text": "far west end of the ranch. And, um, Tom"}, {"start": "01:28:15", "end": "01:28:17", "text": "and Candace, this is my first time"}, {"start": "01:28:16", "end": "01:28:19", "text": "there, and they're taking me on a tour"}, {"start": "01:28:17", "end": "01:28:22", "text": "around. And, uh, there's a Native"}, {"start": "01:28:19", "end": "01:28:25", "text": "American medicine man there with us. and"}, {"start": "01:28:22", "end": "01:28:27", "text": "he was blessing the dog who lives there"}, {"start": "01:28:25", "end": "01:28:28", "text": "who had been attacked the week earlier."}, {"start": "01:28:27", "end": "01:28:29", "text": "And I'm like, \"What did it get attacked"}, {"start": "01:28:28", "end": "01:28:32", "text": "by?\" And they're like, \"Dog, wolf"}, {"start": "01:28:29", "end": "01:28:33", "text": "thing.\" I'm like, \"What? You going to"}, {"start": "01:28:32", "end": "01:28:34", "text": "give me more than that?\" But I was just"}, {"start": "01:28:33", "end": "01:28:36", "text": "getting to know them. I didn't know him"}, {"start": "01:28:34", "end": "01:28:38", "text": "yet. So, I didn't press it. Um, so that"}, {"start": "01:28:36", "end": "01:28:40", "text": "medicine man came to give the dog a"}, {"start": "01:28:38", "end": "01:28:41", "text": "blessing. He was in a cone. And so then"}, {"start": "01:28:40", "end": "01:28:42", "text": "they were showing me"}, {"start": "01:28:41", "end": "01:28:44", "text": ">> the medicine man or the dog?"}, {"start": "01:28:42", "end": "01:28:45", "text": ">> The the medicine man was giving the dog"}, {"start": "01:28:44", "end": "01:28:46", "text": "a blessing."}, {"start": "01:28:45", "end": "01:28:48", "text": ">> The cone was on the dog."}, {"start": "01:28:46", "end": "01:28:49", "text": ">> The cone was on the dog. Yeah. Okay."}, {"start": "01:28:48", "end": "01:28:51", "text": "Yeah. And so they took me out. And so"}, {"start": "01:28:49", "end": "01:28:55", "text": "we're showing homestead one, homestead"}, {"start": "01:28:51", "end": "01:28:57", "text": "two, and homestead three. And uh I was I"}, {"start": "01:28:55", "end": "01:28:59", "text": "don't know like 30 ft away from them and"}, {"start": "01:28:57", "end": "01:29:00", "text": "and and they were showing me some stuff."}, {"start": "01:28:59", "end": "01:29:02", "text": "And then I I walked away and I was"}, {"start": "01:29:00", "end": "01:29:05", "text": "looking out there and I was just and I"}, {"start": "01:29:02", "end": "01:29:09", "text": "started hearing voices that sounded"}, {"start": "01:29:05", "end": "01:29:11", "text": "Native American. I I know some ute. And"}, {"start": "01:29:09", "end": "01:29:13", "text": "I when I was 18, I was adopted by the"}, {"start": "01:29:11", "end": "01:29:15", "text": "Kick Cherokee tribe. I speak a little"}, {"start": "01:29:13", "end": "01:29:18", "text": "bit of Cherokee. Cherokee is not a Utah"}, {"start": "01:29:15", "end": "01:29:20", "text": "tribe in any way, shape, or form. But I"}, {"start": "01:29:18", "end": "01:29:22", "text": "start hearing these voices and I'm"}, {"start": "01:29:20", "end": "01:29:26", "text": "leaning leaning in and I started"}, {"start": "01:29:22", "end": "01:29:28", "text": "speaking Cherokee at it in just like"}, {"start": "01:29:26", "end": "01:29:30", "text": "it's my default. It's nothing to do with"}, {"start": "01:29:28", "end": "01:29:32", "text": "you language, but I'm like and those"}, {"start": "01:29:30", "end": "01:29:34", "text": "voices were like and they're like it was"}, {"start": "01:29:32", "end": "01:29:36", "text": "almost like they heard me and couldn't"}, {"start": "01:29:34", "end": "01:29:37", "text": "see me and started like oh what is this"}, {"start": "01:29:36", "end": "01:29:39", "text": "and what is these voices? And so I just"}, {"start": "01:29:37", "end": "01:29:43", "text": "like kind of like listening, trying to"}, {"start": "01:29:39", "end": "01:29:45", "text": "strain in and Candace goes, \"Ben, Ben,"}, {"start": "01:29:43", "end": "01:29:47", "text": "Ben.\" And I'm like, \"Yeah.\" Well, and"}, {"start": "01:29:45", "end": "01:29:48", "text": "she's like, \"Are you okay?\" I'm like,"}, {"start": "01:29:47", "end": "01:29:49", "text": "\"Yeah.\" And I told her what happened."}, {"start": "01:29:48", "end": "01:29:51", "text": "I'm like, \"Why? Why were you so"}, {"start": "01:29:49", "end": "01:29:53", "text": "worried?\" And apparently the week"}, {"start": "01:29:51", "end": "01:29:56", "text": "before, somebody had been sitting"}, {"start": "01:29:53", "end": "01:29:58", "text": "standing in that exact same spot and had"}, {"start": "01:29:56", "end": "01:30:00", "text": "been looking the same direction, had"}, {"start": "01:29:58", "end": "01:30:02", "text": "gone catatonic, and collapsed and had to"}, {"start": "01:30:00", "end": "01:30:04", "text": "be taken off the ranch. And so they were"}, {"start": "01:30:02", "end": "01:30:06", "text": "thinking that's what was happening to"}, {"start": "01:30:04", "end": "01:30:07", "text": "me. wasn't. But those were the first"}, {"start": "01:30:06", "end": "01:30:08", "text": "voices I heard on the ranch."}, {"start": "01:30:07", "end": "01:30:09", "text": ">> Yeah. Wow."}, {"start": "01:30:08", "end": "01:30:11", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:30:09", "end": "01:30:13", "text": ">> If I if I if I witnessed you just"}, {"start": "01:30:11", "end": "01:30:16", "text": "starting to speak Cherokee into a dark"}, {"start": "01:30:13", "end": "01:30:18", "text": "void, I would also be concerned."}, {"start": "01:30:16", "end": "01:30:20", "text": ">> Well, and then like my first night on"}, {"start": "01:30:18", "end": "01:30:23", "text": "the ranch, um this is kind of and again"}, {"start": "01:30:20", "end": "01:30:25", "text": "this is anecdotal story. So, but I mean"}, {"start": "01:30:23", "end": "01:30:27", "text": "this I'm I'm sharing what happened. If"}, {"start": "01:30:25", "end": "01:30:29", "text": "you don't believe me, that is fine. You"}, {"start": "01:30:27", "end": "01:30:31", "text": "have your right not to believe me. So,"}, {"start": "01:30:29", "end": "01:30:34", "text": "um at the time Eric wasn't living on the"}, {"start": "01:30:31", "end": "01:30:36", "text": "ranch. she was coming on and off. And so"}, {"start": "01:30:34", "end": "01:30:39", "text": "I was in the main bedroom in the command"}, {"start": "01:30:36", "end": "01:30:41", "text": "center and I'm like, \"This is kind of"}, {"start": "01:30:39", "end": "01:30:43", "text": "weird. You don't have internet working"}, {"start": "01:30:41", "end": "01:30:45", "text": "there on your phone, even though it's"}, {"start": "01:30:43", "end": "01:30:47", "text": "really close to civilization.\" And I was"}, {"start": "01:30:45", "end": "01:30:48", "text": "like, \"Okay.\" So I'm not really"}, {"start": "01:30:47", "end": "01:30:50", "text": "connected to the outside world. I'm"}, {"start": "01:30:48", "end": "01:30:52", "text": "alone in this house. Everybody else is"}, {"start": "01:30:50", "end": "01:30:54", "text": "in Tom and Candace's house. So I have"}, {"start": "01:30:52", "end": "01:30:57", "text": "the lights on in the bedroom and I'm"}, {"start": "01:30:54", "end": "01:30:58", "text": "like feeling a little creeped out, just"}, {"start": "01:30:57", "end": "01:31:00", "text": "feeling a little vulnerable. So, I'm"}, {"start": "01:30:58", "end": "01:31:01", "text": "leaning over on my side and I'm just"}, {"start": "01:31:00", "end": "01:31:04", "text": "like looking at pictures from the day at"}, {"start": "01:31:01", "end": "01:31:06", "text": "the phone and I got the the blankets"}, {"start": "01:31:04", "end": "01:31:07", "text": "pulled up on me and all of a sudden I"}, {"start": "01:31:06", "end": "01:31:10", "text": "feel something. I look down and the"}, {"start": "01:31:07", "end": "01:31:11", "text": "blankets are getting pulled off. Not"}, {"start": "01:31:10", "end": "01:31:14", "text": "like falling off. These are like really"}, {"start": "01:31:11", "end": "01:31:17", "text": "coarse, crappy material blankets, not"}, {"start": "01:31:14", "end": "01:31:19", "text": "like soft, you know, silky stuff. And"}, {"start": "01:31:17", "end": "01:31:21", "text": "it's like something is pulling them off"}, {"start": "01:31:19", "end": "01:31:23", "text": "and it goes almost all the way off the"}, {"start": "01:31:21", "end": "01:31:25", "text": "bed. And I'm like, \"Nope, nope, nope.\""}, {"start": "01:31:23", "end": "01:31:26", "text": "So, I grab them and I pull it back up."}, {"start": "01:31:25", "end": "01:31:28", "text": "I'm like, \"I I just got to ignore this."}, {"start": "01:31:26", "end": "01:31:30", "text": "I can't acknowledge this. And so I'm"}, {"start": "01:31:28", "end": "01:31:32", "text": "still looking at my phone again and it"}, {"start": "01:31:30", "end": "01:31:34", "text": "starts happening again and they pull"}, {"start": "01:31:32", "end": "01:31:36", "text": "almost all the way off and I'm like I"}, {"start": "01:31:34", "end": "01:31:39", "text": "literally don't have the brain length"}, {"start": "01:31:36", "end": "01:31:41", "text": "waiting to get handle this. So I bundled"}, {"start": "01:31:39", "end": "01:31:43", "text": "them in my legs and like and I'm like no"}, {"start": "01:31:41", "end": "01:31:44", "text": "there's 100% on the bed. Nothing's"}, {"start": "01:31:43", "end": "01:31:46", "text": "hanging off the bed. It's in you're"}, {"start": "01:31:44", "end": "01:31:49", "text": "taking me off if you're taking these"}, {"start": "01:31:46", "end": "01:31:51", "text": "blankets off. And I just turned on like"}, {"start": "01:31:49", "end": "01:31:52", "text": "a an audio book and slept with the"}, {"start": "01:31:51", "end": "01:31:53", "text": "lights on cuz I'm like"}, {"start": "01:31:52", "end": "01:31:55", "text": ">> Yeah. Too freaked out. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:31:53", "end": "01:31:58", "text": ">> That's one of the scariest things ever."}, {"start": "01:31:55", "end": "01:31:59", "text": ">> Yeah. first. Oh my god."}, {"start": "01:31:58", "end": "01:32:01", "text": ">> Yeah. So, all the rest of the nights I'm"}, {"start": "01:31:59", "end": "01:32:02", "text": "like, I need to sleep over here with you"}, {"start": "01:32:01", "end": "01:32:04", "text": "guys"}, {"start": "01:32:02", "end": "01:32:06", "text": ">> in the in the in the ranch house. And"}, {"start": "01:32:04", "end": "01:32:08", "text": "that was even worse because they it was"}, {"start": "01:32:06", "end": "01:32:10", "text": "so hot. They had the door open and they"}, {"start": "01:32:08", "end": "01:32:13", "text": "had guns by every door. They Tom and"}, {"start": "01:32:10", "end": "01:32:15", "text": "Candace made that ranch house beautiful."}, {"start": "01:32:13", "end": "01:32:18", "text": "It was like a beautiful hippie place. It"}, {"start": "01:32:15", "end": "01:32:19", "text": "had like prisms and all the windows and"}, {"start": "01:32:18", "end": "01:32:22", "text": "stuff. When the when it was sunset,"}, {"start": "01:32:19", "end": "01:32:24", "text": "they're like, \"It's rainbow o'lock.\" But"}, {"start": "01:32:22", "end": "01:32:25", "text": "they had guns by every door because"}, {"start": "01:32:24", "end": "01:32:27", "text": "things they're like, \"Yeah, something"}, {"start": "01:32:25", "end": "01:32:29", "text": "came in and attacked the dog from the"}, {"start": "01:32:27", "end": "01:32:30", "text": "door.\" So the screen door's there, the"}, {"start": "01:32:29", "end": "01:32:32", "text": "door's open. I'm sleeping on an air"}, {"start": "01:32:30", "end": "01:32:33", "text": "mattress in there with these guns. And"}, {"start": "01:32:32", "end": "01:32:34", "text": "I'm like"}, {"start": "01:32:33", "end": "01:32:36", "text": ">> pretty vulnerable."}, {"start": "01:32:34", "end": "01:32:38", "text": ">> I don't like this."}, {"start": "01:32:36", "end": "01:32:41", "text": ">> Yeah. Wow."}, {"start": "01:32:38", "end": "01:32:43", "text": ">> Yeah. It's it's it's so weird. It's so"}, {"start": "01:32:41", "end": "01:32:46", "text": "weird because it it's so creepy, but"}, {"start": "01:32:43", "end": "01:32:48", "text": "it's so beautiful. It seems sometimes so"}, {"start": "01:32:46", "end": "01:32:49", "text": "malicious, and sometimes it's just,"}, {"start": "01:32:48", "end": "01:32:52", "text": "\"Hey, come and learn come and learn"}, {"start": "01:32:49", "end": "01:32:57", "text": "things.\" What's your conviction level"}, {"start": "01:32:52", "end": "01:32:59", "text": "like before uh and after? Are are you"}, {"start": "01:32:57", "end": "01:33:00", "text": "like did you go in thinking, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "01:32:59", "end": "01:33:01", "text": "there's something here.\" And you left"}, {"start": "01:33:00", "end": "01:33:04", "text": "thinking, \"Oh, there's definitely"}, {"start": "01:33:01", "end": "01:33:05", "text": "something here.\" Or were you like, \"I"}, {"start": "01:33:04", "end": "01:33:07", "text": "don't really know what to expect.\" And"}, {"start": "01:33:05", "end": "01:33:10", "text": "now you're 100% in. Like where's your"}, {"start": "01:33:07", "end": "01:33:14", "text": "conviction on a percentage level of the"}, {"start": "01:33:10", "end": "01:33:17", "text": "phenomenon being absolutely real that"}, {"start": "01:33:14", "end": "01:33:20", "text": "something is interacting with you? Um,"}, {"start": "01:33:17", "end": "01:33:24", "text": "so going into it, I think I I was maybe"}, {"start": "01:33:20", "end": "01:33:27", "text": "30%, maybe 40%, I thought people think"}, {"start": "01:33:24", "end": "01:33:29", "text": "it's up here and I think they've"}, {"start": "01:33:27", "end": "01:33:31", "text": "inflamed it up. I think it's probably"}, {"start": "01:33:29", "end": "01:33:33", "text": "there's some weirdness going on. It's"}, {"start": "01:33:31", "end": "01:33:34", "text": "probably around here and people have"}, {"start": "01:33:33", "end": "01:33:36", "text": "people like a good story."}, {"start": "01:33:34", "end": "01:33:38", "text": ">> Yeah. It's a healthy way to think."}, {"start": "01:33:36", "end": "01:33:42", "text": ">> Yeah. And but now having been on the"}, {"start": "01:33:38", "end": "01:33:44", "text": "ranch 100% 500%. I mean, it's And the"}, {"start": "01:33:42", "end": "01:33:48", "text": "thing that pisses me off scientifically"}, {"start": "01:33:44", "end": "01:33:50", "text": "is it makes zero sense if you said, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "01:33:48", "end": "01:33:52", "text": "here's a place where people see Bigfoot"}, {"start": "01:33:50", "end": "01:33:53", "text": "a lot. I don't know if Bigfoot's real or"}, {"start": "01:33:52", "end": "01:33:56", "text": "not. I've seen Bigfoot and I don't know"}, {"start": "01:33:53", "end": "01:33:57", "text": "if Bigfoot's real.\" Okay, but if you"}, {"start": "01:33:56", "end": "01:34:01", "text": "just said that, or here's a place where"}, {"start": "01:33:57", "end": "01:34:03", "text": "we saw a UFO. Cool. But what does that"}, {"start": "01:34:01", "end": "01:34:04", "text": "have to do with prehistoric animals"}, {"start": "01:34:03", "end": "01:34:06", "text": "coming through portals? What does that"}, {"start": "01:34:04", "end": "01:34:07", "text": "have to do with cattle mutations? What"}, {"start": "01:34:06", "end": "01:34:10", "text": "does it have to do with decomposition"}, {"start": "01:34:07", "end": "01:34:12", "text": "not happening? These things should not"}, {"start": "01:34:10", "end": "01:34:15", "text": "overlap. They're weird enough as they"}, {"start": "01:34:12", "end": "01:34:17", "text": "are. They shouldn't overlap and they do."}, {"start": "01:34:15", "end": "01:34:19", "text": "And I can verify that for myself. So, if"}, {"start": "01:34:17", "end": "01:34:22", "text": "nobody believes me, that's fine. I know"}, {"start": "01:34:19", "end": "01:34:24", "text": "for myself cuz I've experienced it 100%."}, {"start": "01:34:22", "end": "01:34:25", "text": "And I've seen some of the greatest"}, {"start": "01:34:24", "end": "01:34:27", "text": "scientists I've ever had a chance to"}, {"start": "01:34:25", "end": "01:34:28", "text": "work with also see this firsthand and"}, {"start": "01:34:27", "end": "01:34:31", "text": "see it like make them scratch their"}, {"start": "01:34:28", "end": "01:34:32", "text": "heads and some of them get attacked, you"}, {"start": "01:34:31", "end": "01:34:36", "text": "know. What's the most important"}, {"start": "01:34:32", "end": "01:34:39", "text": "discovery during your time there"}, {"start": "01:34:36", "end": "01:34:41", "text": ">> that you think even outside of yourself"}, {"start": "01:34:39", "end": "01:34:45", "text": "uh that that was made while you were"}, {"start": "01:34:41", "end": "01:34:47", "text": "there? I h I that's that's a tough one"}, {"start": "01:34:45", "end": "01:34:48", "text": "because is it more about what is prof I"}, {"start": "01:34:47", "end": "01:34:52", "text": "mean I think the fact that we've got"}, {"start": "01:34:48", "end": "01:34:54", "text": "UFOs on camera you know killing a cow"}, {"start": "01:34:52", "end": "01:34:57", "text": "that that's not the most important but I"}, {"start": "01:34:54", "end": "01:35:00", "text": "think that's pretty lowhanging fruit"}, {"start": "01:34:57", "end": "01:35:03", "text": ">> you know it's like UFO killed a cow cow"}, {"start": "01:35:00", "end": "01:35:05", "text": "spirals and goes wackadoodle and then a"}, {"start": "01:35:03", "end": "01:35:08", "text": "direwolf or something bites through its"}, {"start": "01:35:05", "end": "01:35:10", "text": "bone I mean it's just an odd chain of"}, {"start": "01:35:08", "end": "01:35:12", "text": "things um I think there's a lot of"}, {"start": "01:35:10", "end": "01:35:14", "text": "medical physical meta metaphysical"}, {"start": "01:35:12", "end": "01:35:17", "text": "things. Um, the fact that there's there"}, {"start": "01:35:14", "end": "01:35:20", "text": "does genuinely seem to be portals. The"}, {"start": "01:35:17", "end": "01:35:22", "text": "fact that you had lasers stopped. I"}, {"start": "01:35:20", "end": "01:35:25", "text": "mean, that that's maybe the fields of"}, {"start": "01:35:22", "end": "01:35:27", "text": "science that I'm not in version of the"}, {"start": "01:35:25", "end": "01:35:29", "text": "the decomposition thing. It's like"}, {"start": "01:35:27", "end": "01:35:32", "text": "shooting a laser at the sky and having"}, {"start": "01:35:29", "end": "01:35:34", "text": "it stop or having it split or go into"}, {"start": "01:35:32", "end": "01:35:37", "text": "four directions randomly. That's it's a"}, {"start": "01:35:34", "end": "01:35:40", "text": "laser. It goes only one direction unless"}, {"start": "01:35:37", "end": "01:35:42", "text": "you bend it. um that bubble, whatever"}, {"start": "01:35:40", "end": "01:35:44", "text": "that dome, that bubble is, it's real."}, {"start": "01:35:42", "end": "01:35:46", "text": "We've dropped things down and had things"}, {"start": "01:35:44", "end": "01:35:47", "text": "kind of bounce off of it. We've had"}, {"start": "01:35:46", "end": "01:35:49", "text": "drones, you know, when you have the"}, {"start": "01:35:47", "end": "01:35:51", "text": "border of it, drones that are trying to"}, {"start": "01:35:49", "end": "01:35:53", "text": "do a grid pattern, and I I've filmed it"}, {"start": "01:35:51", "end": "01:35:55", "text": "with my phone. This thing is like boom,"}, {"start": "01:35:53", "end": "01:35:58", "text": "and it's like it ran into a wall and"}, {"start": "01:35:55", "end": "01:36:00", "text": "it's like, and then it has to go back to"}, {"start": "01:35:58", "end": "01:36:03", "text": "home base and recalibrate and then go"}, {"start": "01:36:00", "end": "01:36:05", "text": "through it. Um, rockets. You had rockets"}, {"start": "01:36:03", "end": "01:36:07", "text": "that, you know, once they hit that go,"}, {"start": "01:36:05", "end": "01:36:09", "text": "and we've had rockets when they come"}, {"start": "01:36:07", "end": "01:36:11", "text": "down and they hit that zone and they"}, {"start": "01:36:09", "end": "01:36:14", "text": "stay, oh, I'm going to sit in one place"}, {"start": "01:36:11", "end": "01:36:17", "text": "for 30 seconds on a parachute and then"}, {"start": "01:36:14", "end": "01:36:20", "text": "and then go over. Um, we've dropped uh"}, {"start": "01:36:17", "end": "01:36:24", "text": "GPS things in cans out of the helicopter"}, {"start": "01:36:20", "end": "01:36:25", "text": "and they seem to bounce off it. Uh, I"}, {"start": "01:36:24", "end": "01:36:27", "text": "don't understand what it is, but"}, {"start": "01:36:25", "end": "01:36:30", "text": "whatever it is, it's really important."}, {"start": "01:36:27", "end": "01:36:31", "text": "Um the triangle seems to be kind of the"}, {"start": "01:36:30", "end": "01:36:34", "text": "center of it."}, {"start": "01:36:31", "end": "01:36:37", "text": ">> Um whatever that is, whatever that zone"}, {"start": "01:36:34", "end": "01:36:39", "text": "is. And you know, we see things going"}, {"start": "01:36:37", "end": "01:36:41", "text": "underground."}, {"start": "01:36:39", "end": "01:36:43", "text": ">> But but I mean I and I think on my end,"}, {"start": "01:36:41", "end": "01:36:45", "text": "you know, watching a falcon go through a"}, {"start": "01:36:43", "end": "01:36:46", "text": "portal and come out the other side."}, {"start": "01:36:45", "end": "01:36:48", "text": "That's that's pretty wild."}, {"start": "01:36:46", "end": "01:36:49", "text": ">> That's pretty wild. I will I will give"}, {"start": "01:36:48", "end": "01:36:53", "text": "you that."}, {"start": "01:36:49", "end": "01:36:54", "text": "Um yeah, all of this seems to be really"}, {"start": "01:36:53", "end": "01:36:56", "text": "it's hard to put it into one category"}, {"start": "01:36:54", "end": "01:36:58", "text": "and I think that's probably why you know"}, {"start": "01:36:56", "end": "01:37:00", "text": "like you said it's pretty frustrating"}, {"start": "01:36:58", "end": "01:37:02", "text": "scientifically."}, {"start": "01:37:00", "end": "01:37:05", "text": "Um, you know, some of this stuff behaves"}, {"start": "01:37:02", "end": "01:37:07", "text": "like, oh, it was radiated. Like if you"}, {"start": "01:37:05", "end": "01:37:09", "text": "look at the plant life, like you said,"}, {"start": "01:37:07", "end": "01:37:12", "text": "like, oh, okay, there does seem to be"}, {"start": "01:37:09", "end": "01:37:13", "text": "some correlation here with radiation,"}, {"start": "01:37:12", "end": "01:37:15", "text": "whether that's some type of beam"}, {"start": "01:37:13", "end": "01:37:17", "text": "striking down, whether it's something in"}, {"start": "01:37:15", "end": "01:37:20", "text": "the earth that is there that is causing,"}, {"start": "01:37:17", "end": "01:37:23", "text": "you know, is radiating uh that area. you"}, {"start": "01:37:20", "end": "01:37:26", "text": "know, that that could also make sense"}, {"start": "01:37:23", "end": "01:37:28", "text": "perhaps of some of the species being a"}, {"start": "01:37:26", "end": "01:37:31", "text": "little different, you know, because if"}, {"start": "01:37:28", "end": "01:37:33", "text": "you're mutating cells at a level where"}, {"start": "01:37:31", "end": "01:37:35", "text": "you you can see, you know, plants be"}, {"start": "01:37:33", "end": "01:37:37", "text": "different, then obviously that might"}, {"start": "01:37:35", "end": "01:37:40", "text": "also be true for whatever's living"}, {"start": "01:37:37", "end": "01:37:42", "text": "there, it might have evolved differently"}, {"start": "01:37:40", "end": "01:37:45", "text": "than other predators in that neighboring"}, {"start": "01:37:42", "end": "01:37:47", "text": "area. When we found it on on the elk on"}, {"start": "01:37:45", "end": "01:37:50", "text": "the ranch on the game cameras, they have"}, {"start": "01:37:47", "end": "01:37:55", "text": "spots that correlate with almost like if"}, {"start": "01:37:50", "end": "01:37:56", "text": "you if you took like a a dental uh uh uh"}, {"start": "01:37:55", "end": "01:37:58", "text": "x-ray"}, {"start": "01:37:56", "end": "01:38:00", "text": ">> and put it right up at their face and"}, {"start": "01:37:58", "end": "01:38:02", "text": "left it on for an hour and then what it"}, {"start": "01:38:00", "end": "01:38:05", "text": "does to the skin and what it does to the"}, {"start": "01:38:02", "end": "01:38:07", "text": "hair. Um spots on them doing that. We've"}, {"start": "01:38:05", "end": "01:38:09", "text": "documented that. But the strange thing"}, {"start": "01:38:07", "end": "01:38:11", "text": "is is a lot of times when you have these"}, {"start": "01:38:09", "end": "01:38:15", "text": "spiked radiation levels come back four"}, {"start": "01:38:11", "end": "01:38:17", "text": "hours later it's back to normal and h no"}, {"start": "01:38:15", "end": "01:38:20", "text": ">> yeah radiation should just be there"}, {"start": "01:38:17", "end": "01:38:22", "text": ">> for another half million years"}, {"start": "01:38:20", "end": "01:38:24", "text": ">> and it doesn't and how so is that an"}, {"start": "01:38:22", "end": "01:38:26", "text": "issue with the instruments was the a"}, {"start": "01:38:24", "end": "01:38:27", "text": "phenomenon like messing with your"}, {"start": "01:38:26", "end": "01:38:30", "text": "instruments to make you think there was"}, {"start": "01:38:27", "end": "01:38:32", "text": "a spike or did you actually have"}, {"start": "01:38:30", "end": "01:38:34", "text": "transient radiating that's impossible"}, {"start": "01:38:32", "end": "01:38:37", "text": "but is that what happened? We don't"}, {"start": "01:38:34", "end": "01:38:38", "text": "know, but the plants definitely do seem"}, {"start": "01:38:37", "end": "01:38:40", "text": "to act like it. And again, some of the"}, {"start": "01:38:38", "end": "01:38:42", "text": "animals we found, you know, with some of"}, {"start": "01:38:40", "end": "01:38:43", "text": "the deer and some of the elk,"}, {"start": "01:38:42", "end": "01:38:46", "text": ">> we've also found"}, {"start": "01:38:43", "end": "01:38:48", "text": ">> or or whatever's causing this has"}, {"start": "01:38:46", "end": "01:38:50", "text": "similar symptoms to being radiated."}, {"start": "01:38:48", "end": "01:38:51", "text": "Maybe it's some other type of force that"}, {"start": "01:38:50", "end": "01:38:52", "text": "we're not familiar with."}, {"start": "01:38:51", "end": "01:38:53", "text": ">> Correct."}, {"start": "01:38:52", "end": "01:38:54", "text": ">> You know, that would I think make some"}, {"start": "01:38:53", "end": "01:38:56", "text": "sense."}, {"start": "01:38:54", "end": "01:38:57", "text": ">> Yeah. And and again, some of the animals"}, {"start": "01:38:56", "end": "01:39:01", "text": "we see, you know, could they just be"}, {"start": "01:38:57", "end": "01:39:04", "text": "enlarged? we found on the game cameras a"}, {"start": "01:39:01", "end": "01:39:05", "text": "giant raccoon that's got way longer"}, {"start": "01:39:04", "end": "01:39:07", "text": "legs. Everybody thought they're like,"}, {"start": "01:39:05", "end": "01:39:09", "text": "\"Is this a bear?\" And they thought it"}, {"start": "01:39:07", "end": "01:39:11", "text": "was a black bear. I'm like, \"No.\" And it"}, {"start": "01:39:09", "end": "01:39:12", "text": "has this really stumpy tail. And I"}, {"start": "01:39:11", "end": "01:39:14", "text": "showed everybody the pictures. I'm like,"}, {"start": "01:39:12", "end": "01:39:16", "text": "\"Again, during the ice age, we had this"}, {"start": "01:39:14", "end": "01:39:18", "text": "giant raccoon called Chapel Millennia.\""}, {"start": "01:39:16", "end": "01:39:20", "text": "And I'm like, okay, is this I'm not"}, {"start": "01:39:18", "end": "01:39:22", "text": "saying it is, but if you had like"}, {"start": "01:39:20", "end": "01:39:24", "text": "radiation, could this be just a regular"}, {"start": "01:39:22", "end": "01:39:26", "text": "raccoon that got radiated and this"}, {"start": "01:39:24", "end": "01:39:28", "text": "somehow changed to more of a cancerous"}, {"start": "01:39:26", "end": "01:39:31", "text": "type growth and and more bulbous back"}, {"start": "01:39:28", "end": "01:39:33", "text": "and longer legs and this super stumpy"}, {"start": "01:39:31", "end": "01:39:35", "text": "tail. Um, but it looked just like, you"}, {"start": "01:39:33", "end": "01:39:37", "text": "know, again, if you see this, if you're"}, {"start": "01:39:35", "end": "01:39:39", "text": "not if you know biology, but you don't"}, {"start": "01:39:37", "end": "01:39:42", "text": "know paleontology, then you don't make"}, {"start": "01:39:39", "end": "01:39:44", "text": "this jump. And it's like, well, okay, we"}, {"start": "01:39:42", "end": "01:39:47", "text": "had giant 300 lb beavers, you know,"}, {"start": "01:39:44", "end": "01:39:49", "text": "castrodites. We had giant raccoons, you"}, {"start": "01:39:47", "end": "01:39:51", "text": "know, chaplania that lived alongside the"}, {"start": "01:39:49", "end": "01:39:53", "text": "regular ones. Yeah, they didn't turn"}, {"start": "01:39:51", "end": "01:39:55", "text": "into this. These are these lived at the"}, {"start": "01:39:53", "end": "01:39:57", "text": "same time. These are gone. We had giant"}, {"start": "01:39:55", "end": "01:39:59", "text": "jaguars and regular jaguars. The big"}, {"start": "01:39:57", "end": "01:40:01", "text": "ones are supposedly gone. Had direwolves"}, {"start": "01:39:59", "end": "01:40:04", "text": "and greywolves. Direwolves are gone, you"}, {"start": "01:40:01", "end": "01:40:06", "text": "know, but they lived side by side."}, {"start": "01:40:04", "end": "01:40:09", "text": ">> And so, you got to make that connection."}, {"start": "01:40:06", "end": "01:40:12", "text": "Um, the ecosystems of North America are"}, {"start": "01:40:09", "end": "01:40:14", "text": "not intact. I mean, we should have"}, {"start": "01:40:12", "end": "01:40:16", "text": "mammoths and camels and sloths and all"}, {"start": "01:40:14", "end": "01:40:20", "text": "these things alongside elk and moose and"}, {"start": "01:40:16", "end": "01:40:22", "text": "deer and turkeys and all these things."}, {"start": "01:40:20", "end": "01:40:28", "text": ">> Pretty compelling. Pretty interesting. I"}, {"start": "01:40:22", "end": "01:40:31", "text": "can't wait to get some actual, you know,"}, {"start": "01:40:28", "end": "01:40:33", "text": "4K imagery of like one of these things"}, {"start": "01:40:31", "end": "01:40:34", "text": "just showing up or or even better yet a"}, {"start": "01:40:33", "end": "01:40:36", "text": "body."}, {"start": "01:40:34", "end": "01:40:37", "text": ">> Yeah. you know, that would be that would"}, {"start": "01:40:36", "end": "01:40:39", "text": "be the day because I think, you know,"}, {"start": "01:40:37", "end": "01:40:41", "text": "something like that then becomes an"}, {"start": "01:40:39", "end": "01:40:41", "text": "international"}, {"start": "01:40:41", "end": "01:40:46", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "01:40:41", "end": "01:40:49", "text": ">> Um uh I mean it becomes big news in in"}, {"start": "01:40:46", "end": "01:40:52", "text": "every regard and not just in the sort of"}, {"start": "01:40:49", "end": "01:40:54", "text": "alien, paranormal, UFO regards, but like"}, {"start": "01:40:52", "end": "01:40:56", "text": "more of so of like, hey, there are"}, {"start": "01:40:54", "end": "01:40:58", "text": "things happening on this earth that are"}, {"start": "01:40:56", "end": "01:41:02", "text": ">> apparently natural, apparently, you"}, {"start": "01:40:58", "end": "01:41:04", "text": "know, tied to some event that is"}, {"start": "01:41:02", "end": "01:41:07", "text": "creating these little pockets. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:41:04", "end": "01:41:08", "text": ">> Um, here I mean that that itself is is"}, {"start": "01:41:07", "end": "01:41:10", "text": "equally as fascinating as"}, {"start": "01:41:08", "end": "01:41:12", "text": "extraterrestrials to me."}, {"start": "01:41:10", "end": "01:41:14", "text": ">> It really is. You know, it might not"}, {"start": "01:41:12", "end": "01:41:16", "text": "capture your imagination as much, but I"}, {"start": "01:41:14", "end": "01:41:19", "text": "mean like we whatever this wolf thing"}, {"start": "01:41:16", "end": "01:41:20", "text": "is, you know, we have a good chunk of"}, {"start": "01:41:19", "end": "01:41:24", "text": "the body. We have the jaw. We have the"}, {"start": "01:41:20", "end": "01:41:27", "text": "DNA sequenced and it's been compared by"}, {"start": "01:41:24", "end": "01:41:30", "text": "the most extensive genetics lab on Earth"}, {"start": "01:41:27", "end": "01:41:32", "text": "at the moment by every other K9 on the"}, {"start": "01:41:30", "end": "01:41:35", "text": "planet and all the different dog breeds,"}, {"start": "01:41:32", "end": "01:41:37", "text": "too. And it doesn't match any of them."}, {"start": "01:41:35", "end": "01:41:38", "text": "And this is tangible evidence. I got it"}, {"start": "01:41:37", "end": "01:41:39", "text": "sitting in my house. You know, the jaws"}, {"start": "01:41:38", "end": "01:41:40", "text": "sitting in"}, {"start": "01:41:39", "end": "01:41:41", "text": ">> my house."}, {"start": "01:41:40", "end": "01:41:43", "text": ">> Do you a picture of that?"}, {"start": "01:41:41", "end": "01:41:46", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. And also, I forgot to"}, {"start": "01:41:43", "end": "01:41:47", "text": "mention this. I Let me make sure I get"}, {"start": "01:41:46", "end": "01:41:49", "text": "you pictures of these, too. This is"}, {"start": "01:41:47", "end": "01:41:50", "text": "another This is This is another weird"}, {"start": "01:41:49", "end": "01:41:52", "text": "thing. See, there's little things like"}, {"start": "01:41:50", "end": "01:41:54", "text": "this that are actually big that these"}, {"start": "01:41:52", "end": "01:41:56", "text": "are big stories, but I forget because"}, {"start": "01:41:54", "end": "01:41:59", "text": "there's it's been years. There's been so"}, {"start": "01:41:56", "end": "01:42:01", "text": "many things. So that jaw I I cleaned it"}, {"start": "01:41:59", "end": "01:42:05", "text": "off and then I let dermested beetles at"}, {"start": "01:42:01", "end": "01:42:06", "text": "home. Uh clean it off further and then I"}, {"start": "01:42:05", "end": "01:42:08", "text": "took it back to the ranch. So I had it"}, {"start": "01:42:06", "end": "01:42:10", "text": "in a in like a little Tupperware, a"}, {"start": "01:42:08", "end": "01:42:11", "text": "little Rubbermaid container, no lid,"}, {"start": "01:42:10", "end": "01:42:14", "text": "just paper towels. You know, it's about"}, {"start": "01:42:11", "end": "01:42:15", "text": "this deep. And uh so I show up at the"}, {"start": "01:42:14", "end": "01:42:17", "text": "ranch and they said, \"Hey, come on and"}, {"start": "01:42:15", "end": "01:42:18", "text": "have lunch.\" And I'm like, \"I'm going to"}, {"start": "01:42:17", "end": "01:42:20", "text": "leave this outside.\" So when you're"}, {"start": "01:42:18", "end": "01:42:23", "text": "walking up the stairs to the trailer,"}, {"start": "01:42:20", "end": "01:42:25", "text": "there's a little table right there. I"}, {"start": "01:42:23", "end": "01:42:27", "text": "set it on that table. People are walking"}, {"start": "01:42:25", "end": "01:42:29", "text": "in and out past it. I was in there"}, {"start": "01:42:27", "end": "01:42:31", "text": "eating lunch for maybe 10 minutes, 12"}, {"start": "01:42:29", "end": "01:42:34", "text": "minutes, and when I came back out, it's"}, {"start": "01:42:31", "end": "01:42:37", "text": "covered all over with lacerations,"}, {"start": "01:42:34", "end": "01:42:39", "text": "deep incisions. Now, some people are"}, {"start": "01:42:37", "end": "01:42:40", "text": "like, \"Could it have been a rodent?\""}, {"start": "01:42:39", "end": "01:42:43", "text": "They're not doubled up. They're"}, {"start": "01:42:40", "end": "01:42:45", "text": "individual lacerations, and it's sitting"}, {"start": "01:42:43", "end": "01:42:46", "text": "in the exact position when I set it"}, {"start": "01:42:45", "end": "01:42:47", "text": "down."}, {"start": "01:42:46", "end": "01:42:50", "text": ">> It's not like somebody picked it up, cut"}, {"start": "01:42:47", "end": "01:42:51", "text": "it, and then put it back in all around"}, {"start": "01:42:50", "end": "01:42:54", "text": "it."}, {"start": "01:42:51", "end": "01:42:56", "text": "deep, deep, deep incisions. And I asked"}, {"start": "01:42:54", "end": "01:42:58", "text": "around like, \"Did anybody touch this?\" I"}, {"start": "01:42:56", "end": "01:43:01", "text": "mean, did anybody notice anything? No."}, {"start": "01:42:58", "end": "01:43:03", "text": "And like 10 to 12 minutes eating lunch,"}, {"start": "01:43:01", "end": "01:43:05", "text": "people walking past it, and somehow it's"}, {"start": "01:43:03", "end": "01:43:06", "text": "covered with lacerations. Like"}, {"start": "01:43:05", "end": "01:43:07", "text": ">> noticeable."}, {"start": "01:43:06", "end": "01:43:08", "text": ">> No. Oh, yeah. I'll I'll send you"}, {"start": "01:43:07", "end": "01:43:09", "text": "pictures. They"}, {"start": "01:43:08", "end": "01:43:09", "text": ">> You would have noticed that these"}, {"start": "01:43:09", "end": "01:43:11", "text": "weren't."}, {"start": "01:43:09", "end": "01:43:13", "text": ">> Absolutely. Like you would have to like"}, {"start": "01:43:11", "end": "01:43:16", "text": "you'd have to do this with a Dremel or"}, {"start": "01:43:13", "end": "01:43:18", "text": "to to do these"}, {"start": "01:43:16", "end": "01:43:20", "text": ">> to do these into the raw bone and have"}, {"start": "01:43:18", "end": "01:43:22", "text": "them look like this. You would have had"}, {"start": "01:43:20", "end": "01:43:23", "text": "to have done it when the bone was still"}, {"start": "01:43:22", "end": "01:43:24", "text": "fresh,"}, {"start": "01:43:23", "end": "01:43:27", "text": ">> right? Or else it would have cracked."}, {"start": "01:43:24", "end": "01:43:30", "text": ">> Yeah. And so somehow these are that way."}, {"start": "01:43:27", "end": "01:43:33", "text": "And I got pictures of the jaw before and"}, {"start": "01:43:30", "end": "01:43:35", "text": "and after. And it's like, how did this"}, {"start": "01:43:33", "end": "01:43:37", "text": "happen? I have no idea. But deep deep"}, {"start": "01:43:35", "end": "01:43:41", "text": "deep these big old lacerations like"}, {"start": "01:43:37", "end": "01:43:43", "text": "something just all over even on the side"}, {"start": "01:43:41", "end": "01:43:45", "text": "everywhere in all around it."}, {"start": "01:43:43", "end": "01:43:46", "text": ">> Bizarre just happened in those 10 to 12"}, {"start": "01:43:45", "end": "01:43:47", "text": "minutes."}, {"start": "01:43:46", "end": "01:43:49", "text": ">> So abstract"}, {"start": "01:43:47", "end": "01:43:51", "text": ">> and Yeah. I What? What's the point of"}, {"start": "01:43:49", "end": "01:43:53", "text": "that? Yeah. Why would something do that?"}, {"start": "01:43:51", "end": "01:43:55", "text": "What does it mean? What is it saying? Is"}, {"start": "01:43:53", "end": "01:43:57", "text": "it saying anything? How could it happen?"}, {"start": "01:43:55", "end": "01:44:01", "text": "I don't know"}, {"start": "01:43:57", "end": "01:44:05", "text": ">> what um so you know the one thing that I"}, {"start": "01:44:01", "end": "01:44:06", "text": "I am sort of leaning towards more of now"}, {"start": "01:44:05", "end": "01:44:08", "text": "and you know you touched on this a"}, {"start": "01:44:06", "end": "01:44:09", "text": "little bit. You said as we're as we're"}, {"start": "01:44:08", "end": "01:44:11", "text": "looking at things and as this pendulum"}, {"start": "01:44:09", "end": "01:44:13", "text": "swings, you know, we get into science"}, {"start": "01:44:11", "end": "01:44:14", "text": "and now we're looking at religion,"}, {"start": "01:44:13", "end": "01:44:16", "text": "spirituality. We get too far into"}, {"start": "01:44:14", "end": "01:44:17", "text": "religion, spirituality, we're looking at"}, {"start": "01:44:16", "end": "01:44:18", "text": "the scientific explanation. And there's"}, {"start": "01:44:17", "end": "01:44:21", "text": "this"}, {"start": "01:44:18", "end": "01:44:25", "text": ">> there's this eb and flow of of uh these"}, {"start": "01:44:21", "end": "01:44:27", "text": "two worlds. U but something which is"}, {"start": "01:44:25", "end": "01:44:31", "text": "more on the spiritual side and something"}, {"start": "01:44:27", "end": "01:44:33", "text": "that perhaps being a a skeptic myself or"}, {"start": "01:44:31", "end": "01:44:37", "text": "skeptical"}, {"start": "01:44:33", "end": "01:44:40", "text": ">> um I've you know now as my pendulum is"}, {"start": "01:44:37", "end": "01:44:43", "text": "swinging back towards this idea of okay"}, {"start": "01:44:40", "end": "01:44:45", "text": "there's there's something perhaps tying"}, {"start": "01:44:43", "end": "01:44:48", "text": "the spiritual world into you know the"}, {"start": "01:44:45", "end": "01:44:52", "text": "scientific world. Um, at the heart of"}, {"start": "01:44:48", "end": "01:44:55", "text": "that are these Native American First"}, {"start": "01:44:52", "end": "01:44:57", "text": "Nations indigenous tribes. These these"}, {"start": "01:44:55", "end": "01:45:00", "text": "tribes that are that have been here for"}, {"start": "01:44:57", "end": "01:45:02", "text": "a very long time that seem to be at the"}, {"start": "01:45:00", "end": "01:45:07", "text": "very root"}, {"start": "01:45:02", "end": "01:45:09", "text": ">> in terms of not only um their sort of uh"}, {"start": "01:45:07", "end": "01:45:12", "text": "but for the most part their lore."}, {"start": "01:45:09", "end": "01:45:15", "text": "They're, you know, they talk about star"}, {"start": "01:45:12", "end": "01:45:18", "text": "people. They talk about all these things"}, {"start": "01:45:15", "end": "01:45:19", "text": "that we find in so many different"}, {"start": "01:45:18", "end": "01:45:21", "text": "religions and that we're looking at now"}, {"start": "01:45:19", "end": "01:45:23", "text": "in the sky. We're seeing a lot of these"}, {"start": "01:45:21", "end": "01:45:26", "text": "anomalous, you know, UAP activity, but"}, {"start": "01:45:23", "end": "01:45:30", "text": "we're kind of echoing in our own"}, {"start": "01:45:26", "end": "01:45:34", "text": "language what they were saying. And so"}, {"start": "01:45:30", "end": "01:45:36", "text": ">> I think they have so many answers"}, {"start": "01:45:34", "end": "01:45:40", "text": ">> uh for us. Um, being someone who was"}, {"start": "01:45:36", "end": "01:45:42", "text": "adopted by a Cherokee, um,"}, {"start": "01:45:40", "end": "01:45:43", "text": ">> what do you make of that? Do you do you"}, {"start": "01:45:42", "end": "01:45:46", "text": "do you put stock into that as well?"}, {"start": "01:45:43", "end": "01:45:48", "text": ">> I I definitely do. Especially the, um,"}, {"start": "01:45:46", "end": "01:45:51", "text": "tribes in southwestern United States,"}, {"start": "01:45:48", "end": "01:45:53", "text": "northwestern Mexico all the way up to"}, {"start": "01:45:51", "end": "01:45:55", "text": "Navajo and Ute, which is, you know,"}, {"start": "01:45:53", "end": "01:45:58", "text": "Skinwalker Ranch would be the"}, {"start": "01:45:55", "end": "01:46:02", "text": "norththeastern range of that. those"}, {"start": "01:45:58", "end": "01:46:03", "text": "people, their stories, their legends,"}, {"start": "01:46:02", "end": "01:46:05", "text": "there's something to it and there's"}, {"start": "01:46:03", "end": "01:46:08", "text": "something connecting to some of these"}, {"start": "01:46:05", "end": "01:46:10", "text": "paranormal phenomenon and it seems very"}, {"start": "01:46:08", "end": "01:46:11", "text": "legitimate. The more and more I study it"}, {"start": "01:46:10", "end": "01:46:13", "text": "and the more and more I learn about it,"}, {"start": "01:46:11", "end": "01:46:15", "text": "the more I very much very much see"}, {"start": "01:46:13", "end": "01:46:16", "text": "something with it. And you see that with"}, {"start": "01:46:15", "end": "01:46:18", "text": "ancient peoples, you can put it"}, {"start": "01:46:16", "end": "01:46:20", "text": "everywhere like the the in Australia,"}, {"start": "01:46:18", "end": "01:46:23", "text": "the Aborigines, the if you look up the"}, {"start": "01:46:20", "end": "01:46:25", "text": "Wanjina figures, it's like that just"}, {"start": "01:46:23", "end": "01:46:26", "text": "they just look like gray aliens and"}, {"start": "01:46:25", "end": "01:46:29", "text": "people say, \"Well, they're water"}, {"start": "01:46:26", "end": "01:46:31", "text": "spirits.\" It's like you put a gray next"}, {"start": "01:46:29", "end": "01:46:33", "text": "to them and it's like this is literally"}, {"start": "01:46:31", "end": "01:46:35", "text": "the same thing and they're all over and"}, {"start": "01:46:33", "end": "01:46:38", "text": "those are like 10 12,000 year old"}, {"start": "01:46:35", "end": "01:46:41", "text": "paintings. So, um, the tribes here,"}, {"start": "01:46:38", "end": "01:46:42", "text": "absolutely, there's stories. There's a"}, {"start": "01:46:41", "end": "01:46:44", "text": "story with one of the eastern tribes,"}, {"start": "01:46:42", "end": "01:46:48", "text": "one of the, um, eastern hardwood forest"}, {"start": "01:46:44", "end": "01:46:51", "text": "tribes, and they have a a legend of that"}, {"start": "01:46:48", "end": "01:46:53", "text": "there was a child that one of the beings"}, {"start": "01:46:51", "end": "01:46:55", "text": "from the sky world came down, fell in"}, {"start": "01:46:53", "end": "01:46:57", "text": "love with a woman, and they had a child"}, {"start": "01:46:55", "end": "01:46:59", "text": "together, and they said, \"Okay, you uh"}, {"start": "01:46:57", "end": "01:47:00", "text": "have to take care of this child, and"}, {"start": "01:46:59", "end": "01:47:02", "text": "don't ever strike the child. If you"}, {"start": "01:47:00", "end": "01:47:03", "text": "strike the child, then Skywoman's going"}, {"start": "01:47:02", "end": "01:47:05", "text": "to take her back and this child's going"}, {"start": "01:47:03", "end": "01:47:08", "text": "to live back with the the father and the"}, {"start": "01:47:05", "end": "01:47:10", "text": "people he came from. And it's this whole"}, {"start": "01:47:08", "end": "01:47:12", "text": "story and they still uh but the grandma"}, {"start": "01:47:10", "end": "01:47:14", "text": "did like scold the child and you know"}, {"start": "01:47:12", "end": "01:47:18", "text": "gave him a whack and so they took him"}, {"start": "01:47:14", "end": "01:47:20", "text": "away. And even if that's legend, a"}, {"start": "01:47:18", "end": "01:47:23", "text": "legend can be based off of something."}, {"start": "01:47:20", "end": "01:47:24", "text": "And so the people today, they still all"}, {"start": "01:47:23", "end": "01:47:27", "text": "will have these ceremonies where they"}, {"start": "01:47:24", "end": "01:47:30", "text": "cry and and give mourn and sorrow for"}, {"start": "01:47:27", "end": "01:47:33", "text": "this uh sky child that was taken back up"}, {"start": "01:47:30", "end": "01:47:36", "text": "to live with the with this rain spirit"}, {"start": "01:47:33", "end": "01:47:38", "text": "that you know took him up. So you you"}, {"start": "01:47:36", "end": "01:47:40", "text": "might just be making an incorrect"}, {"start": "01:47:38", "end": "01:47:42", "text": "connection, but you're also stupid if"}, {"start": "01:47:40", "end": "01:47:45", "text": "you dismiss it. It's like listen to the"}, {"start": "01:47:42", "end": "01:47:47", "text": "legend and let it percolate. Think about"}, {"start": "01:47:45", "end": "01:47:49", "text": "it. It's like, okay, this is gives me a"}, {"start": "01:47:47", "end": "01:47:51", "text": "greater worldview and maybe we can make"}, {"start": "01:47:49", "end": "01:47:54", "text": "some connections of understanding. Do"}, {"start": "01:47:51", "end": "01:47:57", "text": "you think they're do you think they know"}, {"start": "01:47:54", "end": "01:47:58", "text": "more than they're letting on? Because I"}, {"start": "01:47:57", "end": "01:48:00", "text": "know that a lot of these communities are"}, {"start": "01:47:58", "end": "01:48:02", "text": "very tight-knit as well in that, you"}, {"start": "01:48:00", "end": "01:48:05", "text": "know, they don't just give information"}, {"start": "01:48:02", "end": "01:48:07", "text": "freely to outsiders who are who are"}, {"start": "01:48:05", "end": "01:48:09", "text": "coming in. And that's just what and you"}, {"start": "01:48:07", "end": "01:48:11", "text": "have to even if you wanted to tell a"}, {"start": "01:48:09", "end": "01:48:13", "text": "story, you'd have to get approval from"}, {"start": "01:48:11", "end": "01:48:15", "text": "like the elders or like the chief or"}, {"start": "01:48:13", "end": "01:48:16", "text": "like whatever it is, you'd have to go to"}, {"start": "01:48:15", "end": "01:48:17", "text": "the community and be like, can I tell"}, {"start": "01:48:16", "end": "01:48:19", "text": "this story? Can I give them this"}, {"start": "01:48:17", "end": "01:48:21", "text": "information? So, do you think there's"}, {"start": "01:48:19", "end": "01:48:25", "text": "still a lot that they're"}, {"start": "01:48:21", "end": "01:48:28", "text": ">> kind of keeping secret? I think that in"}, {"start": "01:48:25", "end": "01:48:30", "text": "general, loosely in general, yes, with"}, {"start": "01:48:28", "end": "01:48:33", "text": "all the tribes, but very specifically"}, {"start": "01:48:30", "end": "01:48:34", "text": "southwest tribes and southwest United"}, {"start": "01:48:33", "end": "01:48:36", "text": "States, northwestern Mexico, we in"}, {"start": "01:48:34", "end": "01:48:39", "text": "archaeology, we call it the southwest"}, {"start": "01:48:36", "end": "01:48:41", "text": "northwest region. Those people"}, {"start": "01:48:39", "end": "01:48:43", "text": "absolutely have things that they, you"}, {"start": "01:48:41", "end": "01:48:44", "text": "know, and occasionally you'll get them"}, {"start": "01:48:43", "end": "01:48:47", "text": "to explain a little, allude to it. And"}, {"start": "01:48:44", "end": "01:48:50", "text": "again, they're using terms that,"}, {"start": "01:48:47", "end": "01:48:53", "text": "you know, you know, are are mythological"}, {"start": "01:48:50", "end": "01:48:55", "text": "in the vocabulary, but it's very much"}, {"start": "01:48:53", "end": "01:48:56", "text": "very literal and how they and when when"}, {"start": "01:48:55", "end": "01:48:58", "text": "they'll leak some of it out and tell you"}, {"start": "01:48:56", "end": "01:49:00", "text": "a little bit, it's like, oh, that's"}, {"start": "01:48:58", "end": "01:49:03", "text": "exactly fits in with this or that that"}, {"start": "01:49:00", "end": "01:49:06", "text": "we see in some of these events. And it"}, {"start": "01:49:03", "end": "01:49:08", "text": "lines up. You know, the the timelines"}, {"start": "01:49:06", "end": "01:49:09", "text": "aren't perfect. Uh, you know, oral"}, {"start": "01:49:08", "end": "01:49:10", "text": "histories or oral histories. They're not"}, {"start": "01:49:09", "end": "01:49:13", "text": "going to be perfect. They're going to"}, {"start": "01:49:10", "end": "01:49:16", "text": "change a bit. And what you end up with"}, {"start": "01:49:13", "end": "01:49:18", "text": "is you have primordial time. So like if"}, {"start": "01:49:16", "end": "01:49:20", "text": "I said when was Jesus born? That's a"}, {"start": "01:49:18", "end": "01:49:22", "text": "historical question. Whether Jesus or"}, {"start": "01:49:20", "end": "01:49:25", "text": "not was real, it's a historical"}, {"start": "01:49:22", "end": "01:49:27", "text": "question. If I say when was Zeus born or"}, {"start": "01:49:25", "end": "01:49:29", "text": "when was Horus born, that's not that's"}, {"start": "01:49:27", "end": "01:49:30", "text": "that's primordial time. That's time"}, {"start": "01:49:29", "end": "01:49:33", "text": "before time. And that's when these"}, {"start": "01:49:30", "end": "01:49:34", "text": "legends take place. They could be, you"}, {"start": "01:49:33", "end": "01:49:37", "text": "know, the future, the past a million"}, {"start": "01:49:34", "end": "01:49:39", "text": "years ago, 10 years ago in in the"}, {"start": "01:49:37", "end": "01:49:41", "text": "stories. They're told that way just like"}, {"start": "01:49:39", "end": "01:49:43", "text": "when was Zeus born? It doesn't matter."}, {"start": "01:49:41", "end": "01:49:45", "text": "It's an it's and that's how these"}, {"start": "01:49:43", "end": "01:49:48", "text": "stories are. But they have truth in"}, {"start": "01:49:45", "end": "01:49:50", "text": "them. They have deep truth in them. And"}, {"start": "01:49:48", "end": "01:49:53", "text": "it is true that there's a lot that is"}, {"start": "01:49:50", "end": "01:49:55", "text": "especially in those southwest northwest"}, {"start": "01:49:53", "end": "01:49:57", "text": "tribes. There is a lot that only"}, {"start": "01:49:55", "end": "01:49:58", "text": "occasionally gets leaked out. And when"}, {"start": "01:49:57", "end": "01:50:01", "text": "it does, you're like, wait."}, {"start": "01:49:58", "end": "01:50:04", "text": ">> Yeah. And that might be the reason why"}, {"start": "01:50:01", "end": "01:50:06", "text": "Skinwalker Ranch is so interesting"}, {"start": "01:50:04", "end": "01:50:09", "text": "because it is where science and"}, {"start": "01:50:06", "end": "01:50:12", "text": "spirituality intersects. We're talking"}, {"start": "01:50:09", "end": "01:50:13", "text": "about these ancient tribes that there's,"}, {"start": "01:50:12", "end": "01:50:15", "text": "you know, burial grounds there. There's"}, {"start": "01:50:13", "end": "01:50:18", "text": "curses. There's these legend and lore"}, {"start": "01:50:15", "end": "01:50:20", "text": "that's present in this area. And now we"}, {"start": "01:50:18", "end": "01:50:22", "text": "have the world's leading scientists, the"}, {"start": "01:50:20", "end": "01:50:24", "text": "world's government, like the the"}, {"start": "01:50:22", "end": "01:50:26", "text": "biggest, you know, militarized"}, {"start": "01:50:24", "end": "01:50:29", "text": "government in the world"}, {"start": "01:50:26", "end": "01:50:30", "text": ">> turning their attentions to this, you"}, {"start": "01:50:29", "end": "01:50:34", "text": "know,"}, {"start": "01:50:30", "end": "01:50:36", "text": ">> tribal land here that's sacred. And now"}, {"start": "01:50:34", "end": "01:50:38", "text": "we're finally like the pendulum seems to"}, {"start": "01:50:36", "end": "01:50:39", "text": "have met in the middle here at"}, {"start": "01:50:38", "end": "01:50:40", "text": "Skinwalker Ranch."}, {"start": "01:50:39", "end": "01:50:43", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:50:40", "end": "01:50:46", "text": ">> And um it's interesting to see what'll"}, {"start": "01:50:43", "end": "01:50:49", "text": "come from that. But I do feel in my gut"}, {"start": "01:50:46", "end": "01:50:51", "text": "that as long as we measure with the"}, {"start": "01:50:49", "end": "01:50:54", "text": "instruments that we're familiar with,"}, {"start": "01:50:51", "end": "01:50:56", "text": "we'll only get undetermined answers."}, {"start": "01:50:54", "end": "01:50:57", "text": ">> And then that we'll have to start, you"}, {"start": "01:50:56", "end": "01:51:00", "text": "know, adapting the other way and look"}, {"start": "01:50:57", "end": "01:51:02", "text": "inwards and have these other um these"}, {"start": "01:51:00", "end": "01:51:05", "text": "other ways of measuring things. Mhm."}, {"start": "01:51:02", "end": "01:51:07", "text": "Well, and you have to you it's okay to"}, {"start": "01:51:05", "end": "01:51:08", "text": "be skeptical, right? Um and it's okay to"}, {"start": "01:51:07", "end": "01:51:11", "text": "say, \"Show me the evidence,\" but it's"}, {"start": "01:51:08", "end": "01:51:13", "text": "like if you see some evidence, you it"}, {"start": "01:51:11", "end": "01:51:14", "text": "does you don't have to have a"}, {"start": "01:51:13", "end": "01:51:16", "text": "conclusion, but you at least have to"}, {"start": "01:51:14", "end": "01:51:19", "text": "acknowledge this is some evidence, you"}, {"start": "01:51:16", "end": "01:51:22", "text": "know, like when the the rabbi did the"}, {"start": "01:51:19", "end": "01:51:25", "text": "prayer on the ranch and all of a sudden"}, {"start": "01:51:22", "end": "01:51:28", "text": "all at Homestead to all of the colors"}, {"start": "01:51:25", "end": "01:51:30", "text": "start the the thermal imaging cameras"}, {"start": "01:51:28", "end": "01:51:31", "text": "just changed everything. or when they"}, {"start": "01:51:30", "end": "01:51:33", "text": "brought that tribe out and they did a"}, {"start": "01:51:31", "end": "01:51:36", "text": "drum circle there and all of a sudden"}, {"start": "01:51:33", "end": "01:51:38", "text": "like these orbs were coming into the"}, {"start": "01:51:36", "end": "01:51:41", "text": "mesa on camera. It's like,"}, {"start": "01:51:38", "end": "01:51:44", "text": ">> okay, I don't know what that means, but"}, {"start": "01:51:41", "end": "01:51:45", "text": "you have to at least say this is a thing"}, {"start": "01:51:44", "end": "01:51:48", "text": "that happened. I'm going to put it in my"}, {"start": "01:51:45", "end": "01:51:50", "text": "brain and I'm going to factor it in."}, {"start": "01:51:48", "end": "01:51:51", "text": "Don't just dismiss it, you know? And we"}, {"start": "01:51:50", "end": "01:51:53", "text": "may not know what it means. And just"}, {"start": "01:51:51", "end": "01:51:55", "text": "because you don't know what it means,"}, {"start": "01:51:53", "end": "01:51:57", "text": "that's okay. You don't have to be like,"}, {"start": "01:51:55", "end": "01:52:00", "text": "\"Therefore, it's stupid.\" No, don't"}, {"start": "01:51:57", "end": "01:52:02", "text": "dismiss it. just log it in there and"}, {"start": "01:52:00", "end": "01:52:04", "text": "keep that as part of the information."}, {"start": "01:52:02", "end": "01:52:06", "text": ">> Should get people to do like some"}, {"start": "01:52:04", "end": "01:52:07", "text": "Iawaska ceremonies there or something."}, {"start": "01:52:06", "end": "01:52:08", "text": ">> Feel like you'd probably get some"}, {"start": "01:52:07", "end": "01:52:11", "text": "interesting"}, {"start": "01:52:08", "end": "01:52:14", "text": ">> I think they need to I think they and I"}, {"start": "01:52:11", "end": "01:52:17", "text": "wonder if that may have happened um"}, {"start": "01:52:14", "end": "01:52:18", "text": ">> off camera with without me around. Um I"}, {"start": "01:52:17", "end": "01:52:20", "text": "know"}, {"start": "01:52:18", "end": "01:52:21", "text": ">> Eric and I really want to do a lot of"}, {"start": "01:52:20", "end": "01:52:24", "text": "experiments growing mushrooms and also"}, {"start": "01:52:21", "end": "01:52:26", "text": "have people psilocybin and Yeah."}, {"start": "01:52:24", "end": "01:52:27", "text": ">> Yeah. I'm I' mean I'd be down to"}, {"start": "01:52:26", "end": "01:52:29", "text": "experiment with that as well. I think"}, {"start": "01:52:27", "end": "01:52:31", "text": "that would be like a heck of a place"}, {"start": "01:52:29", "end": "01:52:32", "text": "where you get tuned in to some, you"}, {"start": "01:52:31", "end": "01:52:33", "text": "know, wild frequencies."}, {"start": "01:52:32", "end": "01:52:35", "text": ">> Yeah, I think it would. I think I think"}, {"start": "01:52:33", "end": "01:52:37", "text": "it should be done. Yeah, it should be"}, {"start": "01:52:35", "end": "01:52:38", "text": "done in a controlled setting, you know,"}, {"start": "01:52:37", "end": "01:52:41", "text": "dose set and setting. Have it be very"}, {"start": "01:52:38", "end": "01:52:43", "text": "safe and have people there to make sure"}, {"start": "01:52:41", "end": "01:52:45", "text": "it's done well and right, but also to"}, {"start": "01:52:43", "end": "01:52:47", "text": "make sure it's not too clinical to be"}, {"start": "01:52:45", "end": "01:52:48", "text": "like, hey, we're open to learning. We"}, {"start": "01:52:47", "end": "01:52:50", "text": "want to learn. We got people here to"}, {"start": "01:52:48", "end": "01:52:51", "text": "make sure it's safe. But I"}, {"start": "01:52:50", "end": "01:52:53", "text": ">> using locals perhaps in their own"}, {"start": "01:52:51", "end": "01:52:55", "text": "methods and you know"}, {"start": "01:52:53", "end": "01:52:56", "text": ">> I think it would be really really wise"}, {"start": "01:52:55", "end": "01:52:57", "text": "and"}, {"start": "01:52:56", "end": "01:52:58", "text": ">> that would be an episode of Skinwalker"}, {"start": "01:52:57", "end": "01:52:59", "text": "I'd love to watch. I'll tell you that"}, {"start": "01:52:58", "end": "01:53:01", "text": "right now."}, {"start": "01:52:59", "end": "01:53:02", "text": ">> That would be great actually. That would"}, {"start": "01:53:01", "end": "01:53:04", "text": "be incredible."}, {"start": "01:53:02", "end": "01:53:06", "text": ">> If Brandon if if you're listening and"}, {"start": "01:53:04", "end": "01:53:08", "text": "you ever need uh somebody to help set it"}, {"start": "01:53:06", "end": "01:53:10", "text": "up, I'd be more than happy to to throw"}, {"start": "01:53:08", "end": "01:53:12", "text": "my name in the hat."}, {"start": "01:53:10", "end": "01:53:13", "text": ">> Um Ben, I'm going to grab uh I'm going"}, {"start": "01:53:12", "end": "01:53:15", "text": "to turn turn this camera on back here."}, {"start": "01:53:13", "end": "01:53:16", "text": "We got some questions from the audience"}, {"start": "01:53:15", "end": "01:53:16", "text": "that I'd love to ask you."}, {"start": "01:53:16", "end": "01:53:19", "text": ">> Sounds great."}, {"start": "01:53:16", "end": "01:53:22", "text": ">> All right. All right. So, if you're a"}, {"start": "01:53:19", "end": "01:53:25", "text": "member here at Area 52, you get access"}, {"start": "01:53:22", "end": "01:53:27", "text": "to a lot of perks. One of the main perks"}, {"start": "01:53:25", "end": "01:53:30", "text": "here that a lot of people seem to like"}, {"start": "01:53:27", "end": "01:53:33", "text": "is the possibility of asking our guests"}, {"start": "01:53:30", "end": "01:53:36", "text": "a question. So, I inform them 24 hours"}, {"start": "01:53:33", "end": "01:53:38", "text": "ahead, uh, usually 24 hours. And, uh,"}, {"start": "01:53:36", "end": "01:53:40", "text": "and they get to ask us some questions"}, {"start": "01:53:38", "end": "01:53:43", "text": "and then I cherrypick from those. And"}, {"start": "01:53:40", "end": "01:53:45", "text": "often, I'll tell you, collectively,"}, {"start": "01:53:43", "end": "01:53:47", "text": ">> their questions are better than mine. I"}, {"start": "01:53:45", "end": "01:53:49", "text": "mean there, you know, bunch of really"}, {"start": "01:53:47", "end": "01:53:51", "text": "interesting, intelligent people coming"}, {"start": "01:53:49", "end": "01:53:53", "text": "together asking questions."}, {"start": "01:53:51", "end": "01:53:55", "text": ">> It's it's it's the greatest way to ask"}, {"start": "01:53:53", "end": "01:53:57", "text": "the best questions."}, {"start": "01:53:55", "end": "01:53:59", "text": ">> Um, so I encourage you guys to do that"}, {"start": "01:53:57", "end": "01:54:01", "text": "if you are a part of the membership"}, {"start": "01:53:59", "end": "01:54:05", "text": "already."}, {"start": "01:54:01", "end": "01:54:05", "text": "All right, here we go."}, {"start": "01:54:06", "end": "01:54:12", "text": "Interesting question here by Michelle"}, {"start": "01:54:09", "end": "01:54:12", "text": "LP."}, {"start": "01:54:15", "end": "01:54:21", "text": "So, this question asks, \"Is there video"}, {"start": "01:54:18", "end": "01:54:23", "text": "evidence of active portals at the ranch"}, {"start": "01:54:21", "end": "01:54:24", "text": "that is being suppressed?\""}, {"start": "01:54:23", "end": "01:54:27", "text": "Um, I don't know if it's being"}, {"start": "01:54:24", "end": "01:54:29", "text": "suppressed, but I think suppressed seems"}, {"start": "01:54:27", "end": "01:54:32", "text": "kind of nefarious. Uh, I know there is"}, {"start": "01:54:29", "end": "01:54:34", "text": "footage from the Bigalow era and I"}, {"start": "01:54:32", "end": "01:54:36", "text": "believe we have footage now. I mean,"}, {"start": "01:54:34", "end": "01:54:39", "text": "there's things we have seen with the"}, {"start": "01:54:36", "end": "01:54:42", "text": "bubble um that have shown that. Um, I"}, {"start": "01:54:39", "end": "01:54:43", "text": "believe that things have been documented"}, {"start": "01:54:42", "end": "01:54:46", "text": "currently that might not be in"}, {"start": "01:54:43", "end": "01:54:47", "text": "circulation. Um, but I think suppressed"}, {"start": "01:54:46", "end": "01:54:49", "text": "is"}, {"start": "01:54:47", "end": "01:54:51", "text": "more of a nefarious term that I would"}, {"start": "01:54:49", "end": "01:54:52", "text": "would use, but I think it's there's some"}, {"start": "01:54:51", "end": "01:54:54", "text": "that it's being held"}, {"start": "01:54:52", "end": "01:54:58", "text": ">> classified. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:54:54", "end": "01:54:58", "text": ">> Yeah. Uh do you think that"}, {"start": "01:54:59", "end": "01:55:03", "text": "because I mean you you have we've"}, {"start": "01:55:01", "end": "01:55:05", "text": "documented you know with LAR and with"}, {"start": "01:55:03", "end": "01:55:07", "text": "different scans we have absolutely"}, {"start": "01:55:05", "end": "01:55:09", "text": "verified you know portals you know"}, {"start": "01:55:07", "end": "01:55:11", "text": "through that triangle area. We've"}, {"start": "01:55:09", "end": "01:55:13", "text": "absolutely had that's been made public."}, {"start": "01:55:11", "end": "01:55:15", "text": "So I think there's more to it than that."}, {"start": "01:55:13", "end": "01:55:16", "text": "Uh but and I know the bigo era stuff has"}, {"start": "01:55:15", "end": "01:55:18", "text": "not all come out."}, {"start": "01:55:16", "end": "01:55:20", "text": ">> Do you think it will eventually or is"}, {"start": "01:55:18", "end": "01:55:22", "text": "that just cuz it's government? I don't"}, {"start": "01:55:20", "end": "01:55:25", "text": "think for 50 years. Probably not. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:55:22", "end": "01:55:28", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. You're probably right. Okay,"}, {"start": "01:55:25", "end": "01:55:31", "text": "good question, Michelle. We got another"}, {"start": "01:55:28", "end": "01:55:31", "text": "one here"}, {"start": "01:55:39", "end": "01:55:45", "text": "by Perry here. He says, \"If you had the"}, {"start": "01:55:42", "end": "01:55:47", "text": "ultimate evidence, uh, biological or"}, {"start": "01:55:45", "end": "01:55:49", "text": "otherwise, to whom would you present"}, {"start": "01:55:47", "end": "01:55:51", "text": "it?\""}, {"start": "01:55:49", "end": "01:55:54", "text": ">> Uh, the greatest number of people"}, {"start": "01:55:51", "end": "01:55:55", "text": "possible. whatever would be the greatest"}, {"start": "01:55:54", "end": "01:55:57", "text": "way to get it out there to the world"}, {"start": "01:55:55", "end": "01:56:00", "text": ">> right here on Area 52."}, {"start": "01:55:57", "end": "01:56:02", "text": ">> Yeah, that's what I want as many people"}, {"start": "01:56:00", "end": "01:56:03", "text": "I don't want to I don't want to guard"}, {"start": "01:56:02", "end": "01:56:05", "text": "the information. I want people I want"}, {"start": "01:56:03", "end": "01:56:08", "text": "other minds thinking about it, people to"}, {"start": "01:56:05", "end": "01:56:11", "text": "be aware, talking, discussing, and all"}, {"start": "01:56:08", "end": "01:56:13", "text": "of us collectively to move forward and"}, {"start": "01:56:11", "end": "01:56:15", "text": "move upward and and get new thinking on"}, {"start": "01:56:13", "end": "01:56:17", "text": "it. Do you think there's any that any of"}, {"start": "01:56:15", "end": "01:56:21", "text": "that scientific evidence is currently"}, {"start": "01:56:17", "end": "01:56:23", "text": "being withheld because of the filming of"}, {"start": "01:56:21", "end": "01:56:24", "text": "the show? Do you think that any of that"}, {"start": "01:56:23", "end": "01:56:26", "text": "should be made public?"}, {"start": "01:56:24", "end": "01:56:29", "text": ">> I think some Yeah, some there's some"}, {"start": "01:56:26", "end": "01:56:31", "text": "things that are just um anecdotally held"}, {"start": "01:56:29", "end": "01:56:32", "text": "back just as like okay well maybe we're"}, {"start": "01:56:31", "end": "01:56:34", "text": "going to put this in later season and"}, {"start": "01:56:32", "end": "01:56:37", "text": "that's I mean that's why I want to be"}, {"start": "01:56:34", "end": "01:56:40", "text": "here is to get some of this out. Um, so"}, {"start": "01:56:37", "end": "01:56:41", "text": "yeah, some of it for very simple and not"}, {"start": "01:56:40", "end": "01:56:43", "text": "not very important reasons are held"}, {"start": "01:56:41", "end": "01:56:45", "text": "back, but I do also think that some of"}, {"start": "01:56:43", "end": "01:56:47", "text": "the big stuff is held back on a on a"}, {"start": "01:56:45", "end": "01:56:47", "text": "more governmental level."}, {"start": "01:56:47", "end": "01:56:49", "text": ">> Really?"}, {"start": "01:56:47", "end": "01:56:51", "text": ">> Yeah. Because we're not all there all"}, {"start": "01:56:49", "end": "01:56:52", "text": "the time. There there's nobody's there"}, {"start": "01:56:51", "end": "01:56:53", "text": "all the time. It's somewhat"}, {"start": "01:56:52", "end": "01:56:54", "text": "compartmentalized. And so depending on"}, {"start": "01:56:53", "end": "01:56:56", "text": "what experiments are happening, what"}, {"start": "01:56:54", "end": "01:56:59", "text": "days, some of the really big stuff"}, {"start": "01:56:56", "end": "01:57:00", "text": "doesn't come out till later. And I've"}, {"start": "01:56:59", "end": "01:57:02", "text": "had people behind the scenes tell me"}, {"start": "01:57:00", "end": "01:57:05", "text": "that some of the stuff maybe doesn't"}, {"start": "01:57:02", "end": "01:57:07", "text": "come out fully at all yet. and some of"}, {"start": "01:57:05", "end": "01:57:09", "text": "the bigger more I don't want to say"}, {"start": "01:57:07", "end": "01:57:12", "text": "scary but more profound things um they"}, {"start": "01:57:09", "end": "01:57:14", "text": "kind of sit on and process like what"}, {"start": "01:57:12", "end": "01:57:16", "text": "what do we do with this information? So"}, {"start": "01:57:14", "end": "01:57:17", "text": "um so some of it again just for basic"}, {"start": "01:57:16", "end": "01:57:19", "text": "filming reasons but some of the things"}, {"start": "01:57:17", "end": "01:57:20", "text": "happen because again this is a year"}, {"start": "01:57:19", "end": "01:57:21", "text": "round thing."}, {"start": "01:57:20", "end": "01:57:22", "text": ">> Do you think there's like national"}, {"start": "01:57:21", "end": "01:57:24", "text": "security implications?"}, {"start": "01:57:22", "end": "01:57:27", "text": ">> Yeah, absolutely. Really? Absolutely."}, {"start": "01:57:24", "end": "01:57:29", "text": "Yeah. 100 100% are 100% are you even see"}, {"start": "01:57:27", "end": "01:57:31", "text": "some of that on the show? you'll see"}, {"start": "01:57:29", "end": "01:57:33", "text": "snippets that show that. But yeah,"}, {"start": "01:57:31", "end": "01:57:36", "text": "there's absolutely I mean the the first"}, {"start": "01:57:33", "end": "01:57:38", "text": "season Travis had to break his NDAs to"}, {"start": "01:57:36", "end": "01:57:41", "text": "tell the Department of Defense like,"}, {"start": "01:57:38", "end": "01:57:43", "text": "\"Hey, uh there might be getting hacked"}, {"start": "01:57:41", "end": "01:57:45", "text": "here by either foreign entities or"}, {"start": "01:57:43", "end": "01:57:47", "text": "foreign governments and I got to break"}, {"start": "01:57:45", "end": "01:57:49", "text": "this NDA and say so there's absolutely"}, {"start": "01:57:47", "end": "01:57:52", "text": "things that are held back.\" 100% are."}, {"start": "01:57:49", "end": "01:57:55", "text": ">> Wow. Interesting. I'll be excited to"}, {"start": "01:57:52", "end": "01:57:57", "text": "hopefully find out what that is one day."}, {"start": "01:57:55", "end": "01:58:00", "text": "Maybe in person. Mhm."}, {"start": "01:57:57", "end": "01:58:00", "text": ">> All right."}, {"start": "01:58:01", "end": "01:58:06", "text": "probably something we touched on, but"}, {"start": "01:58:10", "end": "01:58:15", "text": "says, \"While working on the ranch, was"}, {"start": "01:58:12", "end": "01:58:17", "text": "there a fundamental biological theory"}, {"start": "01:58:15", "end": "01:58:20", "text": "that you felt was challenged?\" And I"}, {"start": "01:58:17", "end": "01:58:23", "text": "mean, this is by Thomas Tom 10. Uh, I"}, {"start": "01:58:20", "end": "01:58:24", "text": "would assume decomposition being, you"}, {"start": "01:58:23", "end": "01:58:26", "text": "know, the big one, but was there a"}, {"start": "01:58:24", "end": "01:58:28", "text": "specific theory that you felt was being"}, {"start": "01:58:26", "end": "01:58:30", "text": "challenged? I think the the big yeah the"}, {"start": "01:58:28", "end": "01:58:33", "text": "biggest one is the tonomy you know the"}, {"start": "01:58:30", "end": "01:58:35", "text": "the the the science of decomposition um"}, {"start": "01:58:33", "end": "01:58:38", "text": "both you know I mean that even goes back"}, {"start": "01:58:35", "end": "01:58:40", "text": "to paleontological times ancient times"}, {"start": "01:58:38", "end": "01:58:42", "text": "um yeah that would be the big thing of"}, {"start": "01:58:40", "end": "01:58:44", "text": "how things decompose and what happens"}, {"start": "01:58:42", "end": "01:58:46", "text": "postmortem you know the cow contorting"}, {"start": "01:58:44", "end": "01:58:49", "text": "into the dinosaur death pose that's also"}, {"start": "01:58:46", "end": "01:58:51", "text": "a taffanomical scientific thing that is"}, {"start": "01:58:49", "end": "01:58:53", "text": "being challenged the way the t you know"}, {"start": "01:58:51", "end": "01:58:55", "text": "way tendons and ligaments attach and the"}, {"start": "01:58:53", "end": "01:58:57", "text": "way they dry out it's a it's a cut and"}, {"start": "01:58:55", "end": "01:58:59", "text": "dry way you can only fit a puzzle in a"}, {"start": "01:58:57", "end": "01:59:01", "text": "certain way. That should not have"}, {"start": "01:58:59", "end": "01:59:04", "text": "happened and it seemed oh the cow"}, {"start": "01:59:01", "end": "01:59:08", "text": "spiral, you know. So that the tonomy of"}, {"start": "01:59:04", "end": "01:59:09", "text": "the ranch absolutely challenged and also"}, {"start": "01:59:08", "end": "01:59:11", "text": "the existence of animals that shouldn't"}, {"start": "01:59:09", "end": "01:59:13", "text": "be there. That's another biological"}, {"start": "01:59:11", "end": "01:59:16", "text": "presence that absolutely challenges my"}, {"start": "01:59:13", "end": "01:59:19", "text": "my understanding of the modern world."}, {"start": "01:59:16", "end": "01:59:24", "text": "Have you found any"}, {"start": "01:59:19", "end": "01:59:26", "text": "uh clues into the study of the tissue"}, {"start": "01:59:24", "end": "01:59:27", "text": "that might answer some of that some of"}, {"start": "01:59:26", "end": "01:59:30", "text": "those questions?"}, {"start": "01:59:27", "end": "01:59:31", "text": ">> Uh no, it just seems all frozen. Um"}, {"start": "01:59:30", "end": "01:59:32", "text": ">> what do you mean frozen?"}, {"start": "01:59:31", "end": "01:59:34", "text": ">> That any tissue samples we've checked,"}, {"start": "01:59:32", "end": "01:59:37", "text": "it's like it's dead. It's like it's"}, {"start": "01:59:34", "end": "01:59:39", "text": "frozen in time, but then it should be"}, {"start": "01:59:37", "end": "01:59:41", "text": "decomposing. If you have cells that are"}, {"start": "01:59:39", "end": "01:59:43", "text": "no longer moving, they're not, you know,"}, {"start": "01:59:41", "end": "01:59:44", "text": ">> there's no indicators telling you why"}, {"start": "01:59:43", "end": "01:59:46", "text": "it's not decomposing."}, {"start": "01:59:44", "end": "01:59:48", "text": ">> Yeah. external bacteria as well is not"}, {"start": "01:59:46", "end": "01:59:50", "text": "chomping on it. So the cells themselves"}, {"start": "01:59:48", "end": "01:59:52", "text": "are not and the external bacteria is not"}, {"start": "01:59:50", "end": "01:59:54", "text": ">> and critters aren't either. And there's"}, {"start": "01:59:52", "end": "01:59:56", "text": "nothing"}, {"start": "01:59:54", "end": "01:59:58", "text": ">> there's nothing that tells you why that"}, {"start": "01:59:56", "end": "02:00:00", "text": "is. There's no chemical. There's no"}, {"start": "01:59:58", "end": "02:00:00", "text": "radiation. There's no"}, {"start": "02:00:00", "end": "02:00:01", "text": ">> Nope."}, {"start": "02:00:00", "end": "02:00:02", "text": ">> There's nothing."}, {"start": "02:00:01", "end": "02:00:02", "text": ">> There's nothing. There's no presence of"}, {"start": "02:00:02", "end": "02:00:03", "text": "anything."}, {"start": "02:00:02", "end": "02:00:06", "text": ">> Makes no sense."}, {"start": "02:00:03", "end": "02:00:07", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. And again, and a scavenger"}, {"start": "02:00:06", "end": "02:00:08", "text": "shouldn't know. A scavenger should come"}, {"start": "02:00:07", "end": "02:00:09", "text": "along and say, \"Here's something I'm"}, {"start": "02:00:08", "end": "02:00:09", "text": "gonna take.\""}, {"start": "02:00:09", "end": "02:00:11", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "02:00:09", "end": "02:00:12", "text": ">> Why does it What is it sensing it?"}, {"start": "02:00:11", "end": "02:00:14", "text": ">> Yeah. that when we see them on camera,"}, {"start": "02:00:12", "end": "02:00:16", "text": "when we have cameras on them, then"}, {"start": "02:00:14", "end": "02:00:18", "text": "they're like, \"Huh?\" They kind of like"}, {"start": "02:00:16", "end": "02:00:20", "text": "back away. There's something about it."}, {"start": "02:00:18", "end": "02:00:21", "text": "There's something that repulses them."}, {"start": "02:00:20", "end": "02:00:23", "text": ">> Something that they see that we can't"}, {"start": "02:00:21", "end": "02:00:24", "text": "see or feel or sense."}, {"start": "02:00:23", "end": "02:00:26", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "02:00:24", "end": "02:00:27", "text": ">> Wow. It's interesting. It just shows you"}, {"start": "02:00:26", "end": "02:00:29", "text": "how much we don't know."}, {"start": "02:00:27", "end": "02:00:32", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "02:00:29", "end": "02:00:32", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "02:00:32", "end": "02:00:39", "text": ">> Okay. This last question here by"}, {"start": "02:00:35", "end": "02:00:39", "text": "Majestiff 12."}, {"start": "02:00:46", "end": "02:00:50", "text": "What's the biggest misconception the"}, {"start": "02:00:48", "end": "02:00:52", "text": "public has about what's actually"}, {"start": "02:00:50", "end": "02:00:57", "text": "happening there?"}, {"start": "02:00:52", "end": "02:01:00", "text": ">> Um, I think I think the perception is"}, {"start": "02:00:57", "end": "02:01:02", "text": "you you go there. Well, you know, I"}, {"start": "02:01:00", "end": "02:01:03", "text": "would have said originally that, hey,"}, {"start": "02:01:02", "end": "02:01:05", "text": "all this stuff is happening all the time"}, {"start": "02:01:03", "end": "02:01:07", "text": "and that, you know, there's always UFOs"}, {"start": "02:01:05", "end": "02:01:10", "text": "and all stuff. Um, and I would say no,"}, {"start": "02:01:07", "end": "02:01:12", "text": "it's more staggered. But that's actually"}, {"start": "02:01:10", "end": "02:01:14", "text": "not true because the longer I've been"}, {"start": "02:01:12", "end": "02:01:16", "text": "there and long as these longer these uh"}, {"start": "02:01:14", "end": "02:01:19", "text": "Brandon Fugal era experience have gone"}, {"start": "02:01:16", "end": "02:01:21", "text": "on, it has amped up. It has there's I've"}, {"start": "02:01:19", "end": "02:01:22", "text": "never been to the ranch where something"}, {"start": "02:01:21", "end": "02:01:24", "text": "has not happened."}, {"start": "02:01:22", "end": "02:01:24", "text": ">> How long do you go for when you go"}, {"start": "02:01:24", "end": "02:01:26", "text": "there?"}, {"start": "02:01:24", "end": "02:01:27", "text": ">> Um, I mean it might be a day, it might"}, {"start": "02:01:26", "end": "02:01:27", "text": "be a week."}, {"start": "02:01:27", "end": "02:01:28", "text": ">> Oh, and still."}, {"start": "02:01:27", "end": "02:01:29", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "02:01:28", "end": "02:01:31", "text": ">> Even a day."}, {"start": "02:01:29", "end": "02:01:32", "text": ">> Every every single time I go there,"}, {"start": "02:01:31", "end": "02:01:34", "text": "there's always something. Every day that"}, {"start": "02:01:32", "end": "02:01:36", "text": "I go there, there's something that"}, {"start": "02:01:34", "end": "02:01:37", "text": "happens. there's always something uh"}, {"start": "02:01:36", "end": "02:01:40", "text": "something that we pick up an experiment"}, {"start": "02:01:37", "end": "02:01:42", "text": "that there's always something strange."}, {"start": "02:01:40", "end": "02:01:44", "text": "Uh it always delivers for me. Um, I know"}, {"start": "02:01:42", "end": "02:01:46", "text": "other PE, but I mean I'm I'm looking"}, {"start": "02:01:44", "end": "02:01:48", "text": "too, you know, I'm coming at this from a"}, {"start": "02:01:46", "end": "02:01:50", "text": "biological and a paleontological"}, {"start": "02:01:48", "end": "02:01:51", "text": "approach, which is different where if"}, {"start": "02:01:50", "end": "02:01:53", "text": "you're I don't know, like if you're"}, {"start": "02:01:51", "end": "02:01:55", "text": "doing security, your job is to protect"}, {"start": "02:01:53", "end": "02:01:57", "text": "the people, make sure people are safe."}, {"start": "02:01:55", "end": "02:01:58", "text": "And so"}, {"start": "02:01:57", "end": "02:01:59", "text": "things still happen to them, too, you"}, {"start": "02:01:58", "end": "02:02:01", "text": "know, and their phones are still getting"}, {"start": "02:01:59", "end": "02:02:03", "text": "hacked as well. But I there has never"}, {"start": "02:02:01", "end": "02:02:05", "text": "been a time that I've been on the ranch"}, {"start": "02:02:03", "end": "02:02:08", "text": "where I haven't had several things"}, {"start": "02:02:05", "end": "02:02:09", "text": "happen 100% of the time."}, {"start": "02:02:08", "end": "02:02:12", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "02:02:09", "end": "02:02:14", "text": "Very interesting indeed. Ben, if people"}, {"start": "02:02:12", "end": "02:02:15", "text": "want to get in touch with you or if they"}, {"start": "02:02:14", "end": "02:02:17", "text": "want to ask you questions or if they"}, {"start": "02:02:15", "end": "02:02:18", "text": "want to look at some of your work, like"}, {"start": "02:02:17", "end": "02:02:20", "text": "what's the best way to do that?"}, {"start": "02:02:18", "end": "02:02:22", "text": ">> So, the the best way is I run several"}, {"start": "02:02:20", "end": "02:02:25", "text": "YouTube channels. Uh the best ones, uh"}, {"start": "02:02:22", "end": "02:02:28", "text": "are um Desert Lore, which I teach all"}, {"start": "02:02:25", "end": "02:02:30", "text": "kinds of ancient history into exploring"}, {"start": "02:02:28", "end": "02:02:32", "text": "and archaeology, stuff like that. And uh"}, {"start": "02:02:30", "end": "02:02:34", "text": "Ben Woodruff Falconry, and that's not"}, {"start": "02:02:32", "end": "02:02:36", "text": "just falconry, it's all kinds of things."}, {"start": "02:02:34", "end": "02:02:38", "text": "And then at the Hutchings Museum, I run"}, {"start": "02:02:36", "end": "02:02:40", "text": "that YouTube channel. Uh, you can also"}, {"start": "02:02:38", "end": "02:02:41", "text": "find me on Facebook. Um, and I always"}, {"start": "02:02:40", "end": "02:02:43", "text": "say if you can't get a hold of me, just"}, {"start": "02:02:41", "end": "02:02:46", "text": "keep after me till you do. I'm super"}, {"start": "02:02:43", "end": "02:02:47", "text": "busy and uh and scatterbrain, so just"}, {"start": "02:02:46", "end": "02:02:48", "text": "keep after me till you reach me."}, {"start": "02:02:47", "end": "02:02:51", "text": ">> Well, you've been a pleasure and a joy"}, {"start": "02:02:48", "end": "02:02:52", "text": "and and a really really um you've been"}, {"start": "02:02:51", "end": "02:02:55", "text": "just great at answering these questions"}, {"start": "02:02:52", "end": "02:02:57", "text": "for me and and obviously I think putting"}, {"start": "02:02:55", "end": "02:02:59", "text": "me over the edge, peing my curiosity"}, {"start": "02:02:57", "end": "02:03:01", "text": "about Skinwalker Ranch, just just that"}, {"start": "02:02:59", "end": "02:03:03", "text": "much more were uh maybe the push that I"}, {"start": "02:03:01", "end": "02:03:04", "text": "needed to uh to investigate this for"}, {"start": "02:03:03", "end": "02:03:06", "text": "myself one day."}, {"start": "02:03:04", "end": "02:03:07", "text": ">> Yeah, we got to get you out there."}, {"start": "02:03:06", "end": "02:03:08", "text": ">> Yeah. Well, I appreciate you. I"}, {"start": "02:03:07", "end": "02:03:10", "text": "appreciate the offer and I appreciate"}, {"start": "02:03:08", "end": "02:03:11", "text": "you coming here and sharing all this"}, {"start": "02:03:10", "end": "02:03:12", "text": "with us."}, {"start": "02:03:11", "end": "02:03:15", "text": ">> Absolutely. Thanks for having me out."}, {"start": "02:03:12", "end": "02:03:15", "text": ">> Thanks."}, {"start": "02:03:29", "end": "02:03:32", "text": "Heat. Heat. N."}]

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And I remember trying to"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "scream in absolute terror and my voice,"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "as best I can describe it, started"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "getting like mechanical and then"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "everything just cut out. That was the"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "most terror I've ever experienced in my"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "entire life."}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:46", "text": ">> Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "another episode of Debriefed. My name is"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "Chris Ramsey and today we are going to"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "take a final look at the story of Amorei"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "Rivera. This is part three of a"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "three-part series. 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Smash like, subscribe, hit the"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "notification bell."}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "Before I start reading chapter 8, which"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "we are on now, there is a very pertinent"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "piece of information that has come to my"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "attention about this story. Well,"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "adjacent to this story, actually in the"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "same location, a guy by the name George"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "reached out to me. Shout out George. And"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "he said, \"You should take a look at this"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "case.\" So, this uh eupfologist or UFO"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "researcher known as Jorge Martin uh was"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "the prominent UFO researcher in Puerto"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "Rico at the time and I believe, you"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "know, for a very long time. And in"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "December of 1988, so later that year,"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "there was a mass sighting in Cabo Rojo,"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "the exact same location,"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "a sighting that occurred over a mountain"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "of a giant triangular craft that was"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "intercepted by at least two F14s. Now,"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "these F-14s ended up circling the craft"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "multiple times and eventually looked"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "like they were going to collide with the"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "craft and ended up disappearing. This"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "doesn't come from me. I'm not making"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "this up. There are one over 100"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "witnesses that have not only talked"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "about this, but that have drawn pictures"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "to depict what they were looking at."}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "This is incredible evidence. Eyewitness"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "sightings,"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "reports from all over Cabo Rojo. These"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "fighter jets intercepting this thing,"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "disappearing midair."}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "Just an incredible piece of evidence"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "that kind of corroborates the story here"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "with Amorei. Now, what I found"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "interesting is that he did mention that"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "these craft have wedge type pieces. Like"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "um for instance, the disc that you're"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "seeing on the picture that he snapped"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "looks to have some seams and maybe those"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "seams come apart. He described them kind"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "of like pizza shaped like they would"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "come off and that what shape would you"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "say that a pizza, you know, slice is?"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "It's a triangle."}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "Are we seeing now? This one was like a"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "mile wide, but is this part of an even"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "bigger sort of mother ship? Now"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "eventually uh apparently allegedly a"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "third craft a third F-14 came into or"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "was sort of inspecting the UFO and the"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "UFO then deployed three red orbs to"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "chase after it and it was never heard"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "from. The"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "fighter jets were American."}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "So there is an American presence"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "involved in this story which you know"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "might come into play a little bit later."}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "And so you ask yourself, where do these"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "fighter jets originate from? If they're"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "American, what are they doing in Puerto"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "Rico? Well, there is an airfield nearby"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "in the Bahamas. I believe that, and I"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "think this was Jorge Martin who said"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "this, and that they actually confirmed"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "deploying multiple F-14s for testing"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "during that time. So the FAA confirmed"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "this, but then when they went to the"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "Americans, they were they denied it,"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "right? So obviously something was going"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "on, but what a compelling and"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "interesting story, especially because it"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "kind of ties in"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "to what we're talking about and it makes"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "this story all the more"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "I don't know really. It raises my"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "conviction level."}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "I left a link to that video below. Eyes"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "on Cinema. Fantastic YouTube channel"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "that kind of documents all types of"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "historical and archival UFO uh footage"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "videos, compiles it, puts it on there. I"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "can't I can't get enough of that"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "channel. I learn something new every"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "time I go to it. So, definitely check it"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "out. But if you want to watch that"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "entire clip of the interview with"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "Wendell Stevens, with Jorge uh Martin,"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "check it out. I left it below. Just a"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "little tidbit of information."}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "You know, as a community, we come"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "together and we're able to add on to"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "these stories with our own personal"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "knowledge. We're acting as like this"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "collective hive mind of eupfology or UFO"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "researching. And I can't get enough. I"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "think it's awesome. I think that's what"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "the internet is for. That's what the"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "community is for. That's what our"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "Discord is for. If you want to head over"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "there and discuss this very episode, we"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "have a channel dedicated, a thread"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "dedicated to every single episode where"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "you can uh, you know, chime in on your"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "own ideas so they don't get lost in the"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "sauce here on YouTube or on Spotify."}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "Chapter 8, we begin, folks. It It's"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "early in the morning. What time is it"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "here? 8:30."}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "Feeling good. Feeling alive. Feeling"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "pumped."}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "Let's check in with Amorei."}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "The nightmares became an everyday thing"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "for me, but I never got used to them."}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "Every time was like the first. I'd put"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "away the pictures and their negatives in"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "an envelope along with some enlargements"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "that were left over from the ones I sent"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "my brother Charlie and my father. I"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "didn't look at them now as often, but it"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "was still the first thing I thought"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "about every day when I woke up. The"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "issues with the UFO pictures started to"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "fade away. At home, little by little, we"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "stopped talking about it. It was if we'd"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "all agreed on it. One day, I just"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "stopped opening the drawer where I kept"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "the pictures and their negatives."}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "My family started to forget about the"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "whole thing, and I did the same. I gave"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "up trying to remember what happened"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "during the lost time. It was easier and"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "more convenient not to. In time, the"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "nightmares were less until they went"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "away altogether."}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "Ain't that the truth, though? No matter"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "how incredible something is, how"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "unbelievably life-changing and"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "completely shocking an event might be,"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "eventually you move on. Even from"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "aliens, you you have to, you know, we"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "have a life to live. There's bills to"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "pay. There's jobs. There's, you know,"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "you got to maintain relationships and"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "see the world."}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "It's kind of it must be just absolutely"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "really tough for this guy, especially"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "knowing what he knows, seeing what he"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "saw, to just move on. But alas, I think"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "that's what he's getting to."}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "One day at work in my job as a janitor"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "in an elementary school, I remembered an"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "old idea I had back in New York. I used"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "to eat every day at a hot dog stand on"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "my way to work."}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "while contemplating coming to Puerto"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "Rico. I remember my aunt telling me"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "about the poor job situation and me"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "thinking that I could set up one of"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "those hot dog stands. But since I got"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "those two jobs just days after arriving"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "in Puerto Rico, I forgot about it now."}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "Now the idea was strongly back in my"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "mind."}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "I bought a food cart with an umbrella"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "and all the necessary items. I complied"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "with all the requirements from the"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "Department of Commerce and provided all"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "the necessary paperwork and documents."}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "After that, everything was pretty easy"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "and immediately started to sell my hot"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "dogs."}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "I thought that the place I chose to set"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "it up was out of pure coincidence."}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "However, turns out that I had picked"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "three other ideal places to set up shop."}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "Out of those three, I had chosen, to my"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "knowledge, the best one. 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Couldn't believe the"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "places I'd picked were now occupied. Out"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "of frustration, I wanted to go home,"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "forget about it for a while."}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "My cousin suggested we go to the beach,"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "El Kombbate."}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "Though I was disillusioned, I agreed."}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "Maybe with a little luck, I'd be able to"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "find a spot alongside the other vendors."}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "Speech in particular is full of vendors"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "who sell all kinds of food."}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "On our way over there, I stopped at the"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "road 301."}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "They stopped behind me and asked me why"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "I'd stopped."}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "I went over to them and told them I"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "wanted to just forget everything. They"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "told me I shouldn't give up so easily."}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "And while we argued over going to the"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "beach or not, a huge tree was nearby"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "caught my attention. It had a huge trunk"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "and had brown color masts hanging from"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "its branches. My cousin's wife noticed I"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "was not paying attention anymore. I was"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "captivated by this tree. What kind of"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "tree is that? A hibaro from New York"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "knows not of these things, asked them."}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "It's Tamarind, they answered."}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "I didn't know what Tamarind was. The"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "majestic tree had mesmerized. It was"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "located near the side of the 301 road."}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "Behind it was an estate with cattle, but"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "no houses nearby."}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "Near this colossal tree was also a"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "flamboyant tree. I felt a very peculiar"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "attraction to that place. So, I crossed"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "the street. I didn't even notice when my"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "cousin and his wife came up to me."}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "The breeze was wonderful. My cousin's"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "wife couldn't comprehend my fixation"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "with the tree, and frankly, neither"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "could I. \"Why don't you set up here?\""}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "she asked. I looked at them, and in an"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "instant, all my frustration and thoughts"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "of giving up were gone. With a smile on"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "my face, I said, \"Welcome to the"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "Tamarindo hot dogs.\" They helped me set"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "everything up. My first client arrived,"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "and I served the first hot dog with"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "meat, onions, and melted cheese. The day"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "was a complete success. To this day, I'm"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "still here. The owner of the adjacent"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "estate let me borrow a little of his"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "land, and I hung a hammock between the"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "trees. For now, the whole UFO thing was"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "buried. From my hammock, I could see"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "mountains. Later, I learned they're"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "called Sieras Bhas."}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "Now, this is interesting because the"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "Sieras Bhas mountains"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "were the ones that had the mass"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "sighting, by the way. So, this might"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "come into play a little bit later."}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "Very interesting. I was happy. My"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "business was booming and I loved being"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "able to mingle with nature every day."}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "This neighborhood is known as Las"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "Arenas. I met lots of good people and"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "made lots of friends. Among them, a"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "family who treated me like one of their"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "own. Popo, the head of the family, has"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "always been there when I needed him."}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "Even lets me leave my cart in his house"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "so I don't have to take it all the way"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "back home every day. One day while"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "talking to Edgardo, Popo's stepson,"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "the UFO subject came up."}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "We were talking about our childhoods and"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "he told me an interesting story. When he"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "was a child and while at mass one day,"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "he saw through the church's windows a"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "bizarre glowing object."}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "It was like a ball of fire. Told the"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "congregation what he was seeing."}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "They told him that the object in the sky"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "was a work of Satan. After this, they"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "prayed with ferveny. \"Don't look at it,\""}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "they told him. But as they bowed their"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "heads and prayed, he kept looking at the"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "phenomenon in the sky. Because he told"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "me this story with such honesty and in"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "all seriousness, I felt comfortable"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "enough to tell him what happened to me"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "that morning in 1988."}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "When I was through, to my surprise, he"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "said he believed me."}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "The next day, I showed him and the rest"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "of his family two of the pictures. I"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "know some of them didn't know what to"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "think, and others simply couldn't accept"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "it. Among the non-believers,"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "Mr. Popo."}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "Afterwards, though, and by his own"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "personal experience, he changed his"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "mind. After my friend recommended it,"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "and after seeing that his family's"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "reaction was not negative, I decided to"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "exhibit the enlarged picture on my hot"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "dog cart. I mistakenly thought that"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "maybe someone would come up and tell me"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "they'd seen the same object over the"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "skies in Cababro."}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "Maybe even someone who had seen it that"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "same morning."}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "To the people who did inquire, I didn't"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "give details. I only told them I had"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "taken the picture one day coming home"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "late from work. The specifics were"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "intense and too hard to believe. They"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "would have required too many"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "explanations for my part, and I didn't"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "want to complicate things."}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "The enlarged picture of the UFO in the"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "military plane did get some attention,"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "but not the one I was hoping for. People"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "started to make fun of me. They call me"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "crazy and a liar. People got ketchup and"}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "mustard all over the picture. They all"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "wanted to see it, but no one mentioned"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "they had also seen it."}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "They drove by and yelled obscenities and"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "called me extraterrestrial or Martian."}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "None of this was good for business. A"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "few days after that, I decided to just"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "remove the picture and put it back in my"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "bedroom drawer. The drawer of oblivion."}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "The drawer of oblivion."}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "Pretty dramatic, but also paints a real"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "nice picture of"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "his vulnerability when it comes to this"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "story."}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "You know, there must be this b this"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "constant battle of am I crazy? No, I'm"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "not crazy. I have the pictures."}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "This really happened. People think I'm"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "crazy."}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "And this sort of frustration of endless,"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "you know, cycling through these"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "different things must just build up over"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:57", "text": "time to where you just want to let it go"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "and be like, you know what, screw it."}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "I'm over it. You know,"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "and to those saying, oh, there's a book."}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "There's always a book. First of all, let"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "me just side note on that, right?"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "Because I had a guest recently and uh at"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "the top of the episode, we mentioned,"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "you know, if you want to purchase his"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "book, go check it out. So many comments"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "were like, \"There's always a book"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "books.\" Ra"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "tell me without telling me that you"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "don't read books."}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "I for one get excited when someone has a"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "book. This is how I see books. There are"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "books all around me. I read books. I"}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "love books. I love audio books. I love"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "reading paperback."}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:47", "text": "If you don't read books, I understand"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "your frustration with someone trying to"}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "sell a book because to you it might just"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "be an object worth money. Uh but to"}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "people who read and to people who write"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:21:00", "text": "books, it is a memoir. Sometimes a"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:21:02", "text": "incredibly personal and detailed memoir"}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "of what happened. The only way that you"}, {"start": "00:21:02", "end": "00:21:09", "text": "can possibly structure something"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "together and make sense of it and record"}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "it archally and have it out there"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "because maybe someone else will connect"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "with what you wrote and say, \"You know"}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "what? That happened to me too. That"}, {"start": "00:21:17", "end": "00:21:20", "text": "exact thing, this little detail or"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "whatever.\" How else are they supposed to"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:23", "text": "find these details if you don't make"}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "them public?"}, {"start": "00:21:23", "end": "00:21:28", "text": "Oh, you're supposed to do it for free,"}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "right? You're supposed to"}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:32", "text": "take, I don't know, a year or two out of"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "your life, every waking moment to write"}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "something for free and then what?"}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "Massouroduce it and give it away for"}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "free as well. Like, I don't understand."}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:45", "text": "Uh, it's a it's a a flawed argument in"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "my mind. But it also tells me that the"}, {"start": "00:21:45", "end": "00:21:49", "text": "people who say that probably don't read"}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "books. And that's what I that's the"}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "conclusion I've come to. I for one am"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "very I get very excited when a"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "experiencer decides to put"}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "his or her experience into a coherent"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "project or book, you know. I think it's"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "I think we could use more of that to be"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "honest."}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "I don't know. Hot take maybe. Let me"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "know what you think."}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:20", "text": "Chapter nine."}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "One morning when, as usual, I got up to"}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "get everything set up for my business,"}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "something really strange happened to me."}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "My grandmother was chopping onions that"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:29", "text": "she would later cook, and I was cooking"}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:31", "text": "the meat on top of the stove. All of a"}, {"start": "00:22:29", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "sudden, I left everything and went"}, {"start": "00:22:31", "end": "00:22:37", "text": "straight to my bedroom."}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "From one of the drawers, I took the"}, {"start": "00:22:37", "end": "00:22:41", "text": "envelope that had the pictures and the"}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:43", "text": "negatives."}, {"start": "00:22:41", "end": "00:22:46", "text": "From the other drawer, I grabbed some"}, {"start": "00:22:43", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "tape, the kind used for moving boxes"}, {"start": "00:22:46", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "like a zombie. I went to the balcony"}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:54", "text": "where my dog Christina had her little"}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:56", "text": "wooden house."}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:22:58", "text": "I taped the envelope to the inside of"}, {"start": "00:22:56", "end": "00:23:00", "text": "the roof of the dog house. Christina"}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "looked at me like, \"What's wrong with"}, {"start": "00:23:00", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "him now?\" Gave her water as usual, put"}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "the tape back,"}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:11", "text": "went back to the kitchen as if nothing"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:13", "text": "had happened. Mama, who was still"}, {"start": "00:23:11", "end": "00:23:16", "text": "chopping onions, didn't notice anything."}, {"start": "00:23:13", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "After finishing up, I headed to the"}, {"start": "00:23:16", "end": "00:23:19", "text": "Tamarindo. Later that afternoon,"}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:22", "text": "something happened that left me"}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:23", "text": "wondering for a long time about it. Mama"}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:25", "text": "was watching the television I was"}, {"start": "00:23:23", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "putting the in the refrigerator what was"}, {"start": "00:23:25", "end": "00:23:30", "text": "left over from work. I gave mama a kiss"}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:32", "text": "and I asked her how her day went."}, {"start": "00:23:30", "end": "00:23:34", "text": "She told me all had been well and that"}, {"start": "00:23:32", "end": "00:23:36", "text": "she'd left a plate for me on the stove."}, {"start": "00:23:34", "end": "00:23:38", "text": "As I went into the kitchen, I heard"}, {"start": "00:23:36", "end": "00:23:41", "text": "footsteps coming from the back stairs,"}, {"start": "00:23:38", "end": "00:23:43", "text": "and I got nervous."}, {"start": "00:23:41", "end": "00:23:45", "text": "The house has two entrances, one solid"}, {"start": "00:23:43", "end": "00:23:47", "text": "one and one made of wire that keeps the"}, {"start": "00:23:45", "end": "00:23:49", "text": "insects out. A man appeared at the"}, {"start": "00:23:47", "end": "00:23:51", "text": "second door. At first, I thought he"}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:54", "text": "might be a Mormon or Jehovah's Witness"}, {"start": "00:23:51", "end": "00:23:56", "text": "or salesman. Without opening the door, I"}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:23:58", "text": "asked him if there was something I could"}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:23:59", "text": "help him with. He then let himself in"}, {"start": "00:23:58", "end": "00:24:02", "text": "like it was nobody's business, along"}, {"start": "00:23:59", "end": "00:24:04", "text": "with three other men. Mama got scared"}, {"start": "00:24:02", "end": "00:24:06", "text": "and asked me who those men were."}, {"start": "00:24:04", "end": "00:24:09", "text": "The first one wore a suit and tie and"}, {"start": "00:24:06", "end": "00:24:12", "text": "had sunglasses on. The other three wore"}, {"start": "00:24:09", "end": "00:24:14", "text": "more casual clothing. Mama again asked"}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:17", "text": "who they were, but they ignored it. Are"}, {"start": "00:24:14", "end": "00:24:21", "text": "you Amorei Rivera Toro?"}, {"start": "00:24:17", "end": "00:24:23", "text": "My answer was only yes."}, {"start": "00:24:21", "end": "00:24:26", "text": "Their arrogance and authoritative"}, {"start": "00:24:23", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "attitude intimidated me. The one in a"}, {"start": "00:24:26", "end": "00:24:30", "text": "suit handed me some documents. Mama"}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:33", "text": "disregarded the news she was watching"}, {"start": "00:24:30", "end": "00:24:35", "text": "and got up. My hands were shaking as I"}, {"start": "00:24:33", "end": "00:24:36", "text": "took the documents."}, {"start": "00:24:35", "end": "00:24:39", "text": "The heading on the first of these"}, {"start": "00:24:36", "end": "00:24:41", "text": "documents read CIA A. While I was trying"}, {"start": "00:24:39", "end": "00:24:43", "text": "to read the documents, the man with a"}, {"start": "00:24:41", "end": "00:24:45", "text": "tie told me that it's best if I handed"}, {"start": "00:24:43", "end": "00:24:46", "text": "him the negatives."}, {"start": "00:24:45", "end": "00:24:48", "text": "I looked at him trying to conceal my"}, {"start": "00:24:46", "end": "00:24:50", "text": "nervousness."}, {"start": "00:24:48", "end": "00:24:53", "text": "Told this man who looked like the one in"}, {"start": "00:24:50", "end": "00:24:55", "text": "charge that I didn't know what he was"}, {"start": "00:24:53", "end": "00:24:56", "text": "talking about. Mama started to say"}, {"start": "00:24:55", "end": "00:24:58", "text": "something, but I told her to be quiet"}, {"start": "00:24:56", "end": "00:25:00", "text": "with a look. After that, she told me"}, {"start": "00:24:58", "end": "00:25:02", "text": "what she was going to say was to give"}, {"start": "00:25:00", "end": "00:25:06", "text": "them the negatives and to avoid any"}, {"start": "00:25:02", "end": "00:25:07", "text": "further trouble. Mama didn't look well."}, {"start": "00:25:06", "end": "00:25:09", "text": "While all this was happening, I asked"}, {"start": "00:25:07", "end": "00:25:12", "text": "her to go downstairs with my aunt while"}, {"start": "00:25:09", "end": "00:25:14", "text": "I talked to these gentlemen. I called my"}, {"start": "00:25:12", "end": "00:25:17", "text": "cousin Danny and he came up and helped"}, {"start": "00:25:14", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "her down. As she left, she didn't look"}, {"start": "00:25:17", "end": "00:25:23", "text": "at the other men or said a word. The man"}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:25", "text": "with the tie repeated his request. He"}, {"start": "00:25:23", "end": "00:25:26", "text": "also said that if I didn't hand them the"}, {"start": "00:25:25", "end": "00:25:29", "text": "negatives, they would have to search the"}, {"start": "00:25:26", "end": "00:25:31", "text": "house. I again told them I didn't know"}, {"start": "00:25:29", "end": "00:25:32", "text": "what they were talking about. I"}, {"start": "00:25:31", "end": "00:25:34", "text": "pretended to be reading the papers, but"}, {"start": "00:25:32", "end": "00:25:38", "text": "in all truth, their presence had me so"}, {"start": "00:25:34", "end": "00:25:40", "text": "shocked I could not read. On the second"}, {"start": "00:25:38", "end": "00:25:41", "text": "page, I only remember reading something"}, {"start": "00:25:40", "end": "00:25:44", "text": "about photographs and negatives. With my"}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:46", "text": "trembling hands, I gave the documents"}, {"start": "00:25:44", "end": "00:25:48", "text": "back to the man with the suit. He was"}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:49", "text": "the only one who talked."}, {"start": "00:25:48", "end": "00:25:52", "text": "I couldn't see his eyes through the"}, {"start": "00:25:49", "end": "00:25:53", "text": "sunglasses, but I could feel the heavy"}, {"start": "00:25:52", "end": "00:25:56", "text": "stare."}, {"start": "00:25:53", "end": "00:25:57", "text": "The others awaited his instructions. I"}, {"start": "00:25:56", "end": "00:25:59", "text": "then told them to feel free to search"}, {"start": "00:25:57", "end": "00:26:03", "text": "the house. I even remember going up to"}, {"start": "00:25:59", "end": "00:26:03", "text": "the television and turning it off."}, {"start": "00:26:04", "end": "00:26:08", "text": "So, first of all, let's take a little"}, {"start": "00:26:06", "end": "00:26:12", "text": "pause here. Uh, Men in Black just showed"}, {"start": "00:26:08", "end": "00:26:13", "text": "up. You know, this is clearly the Men in"}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:15", "text": "Black description. Now, what's"}, {"start": "00:26:13", "end": "00:26:17", "text": "interesting is that the men the man in"}, {"start": "00:26:15", "end": "00:26:21", "text": "question here with the tie is joined by"}, {"start": "00:26:17", "end": "00:26:24", "text": "three other casually dressed men."}, {"start": "00:26:21", "end": "00:26:26", "text": "And one thing that Amorei didn't go"}, {"start": "00:26:24", "end": "00:26:30", "text": "over, which maybe he does a little bit"}, {"start": "00:26:26", "end": "00:26:33", "text": "later, but he doesn't he doesn't tell us"}, {"start": "00:26:30", "end": "00:26:36", "text": "if these men are Caucasian or if they're"}, {"start": "00:26:33", "end": "00:26:38", "text": "American. Um, nothing about their"}, {"start": "00:26:36", "end": "00:26:40", "text": "height. You know, a lot of times you"}, {"start": "00:26:38", "end": "00:26:43", "text": "hear these stories with the men in black"}, {"start": "00:26:40", "end": "00:26:45", "text": "and you these tall gauntlooking figures"}, {"start": "00:26:43", "end": "00:26:46", "text": "that kind of speak robotically, but"}, {"start": "00:26:45", "end": "00:26:49", "text": "we're not getting any of those details"}, {"start": "00:26:46", "end": "00:26:51", "text": "right now. So, could it be men in black?"}, {"start": "00:26:49", "end": "00:26:53", "text": "Could it be just some agents? you know,"}, {"start": "00:26:51", "end": "00:26:56", "text": "he is"}, {"start": "00:26:53", "end": "00:26:58", "text": "advertising these photos and uh if they"}, {"start": "00:26:56", "end": "00:27:00", "text": "want to keep this hush, I mean, you"}, {"start": "00:26:58", "end": "00:27:04", "text": "know,"}, {"start": "00:27:00", "end": "00:27:06", "text": "probably not that hard to find."}, {"start": "00:27:04", "end": "00:27:08", "text": "I don't know how they knew, but as soon"}, {"start": "00:27:06", "end": "00:27:12", "text": "as they were told to start the search,"}, {"start": "00:27:08", "end": "00:27:15", "text": "they first went to my room."}, {"start": "00:27:12", "end": "00:27:17", "text": "Not only did they go directly to it, but"}, {"start": "00:27:15", "end": "00:27:19", "text": "also to the drawer where I had the"}, {"start": "00:27:17", "end": "00:27:22", "text": "photos and the negatives before I"}, {"start": "00:27:19", "end": "00:27:24", "text": "changed them. Whoa."}, {"start": "00:27:22", "end": "00:27:27", "text": "They looked confused when they didn't"}, {"start": "00:27:24", "end": "00:27:30", "text": "find them. They then opened every other"}, {"start": "00:27:27", "end": "00:27:32", "text": "drawer one by one. They were very"}, {"start": "00:27:30", "end": "00:27:34", "text": "meticulous. Once they opened a drawer"}, {"start": "00:27:32", "end": "00:27:36", "text": "and emptied item by item, if they didn't"}, {"start": "00:27:34", "end": "00:27:39", "text": "find what they were looking for, they"}, {"start": "00:27:36", "end": "00:27:41", "text": "put everything back as they found it. In"}, {"start": "00:27:39", "end": "00:27:44", "text": "the same manner they searched my entire"}, {"start": "00:27:41", "end": "00:27:47", "text": "room, the rest of the house. You could"}, {"start": "00:27:44", "end": "00:27:51", "text": "see they got frustrated. None of them"}, {"start": "00:27:47", "end": "00:27:51", "text": "spoke during the search."}, {"start": "00:27:51", "end": "00:27:57", "text": "That is a wild detail as well that they"}, {"start": "00:27:54", "end": "00:27:59", "text": "went directly like they knew somehow."}, {"start": "00:27:57", "end": "00:28:03", "text": "And then if you think about, you know,"}, {"start": "00:27:59", "end": "00:28:06", "text": "obviously him in a zombie unconscious"}, {"start": "00:28:03", "end": "00:28:08", "text": "like state going to get the photos, duct"}, {"start": "00:28:06", "end": "00:28:10", "text": "taping them under, you know, in the"}, {"start": "00:28:08", "end": "00:28:13", "text": "doghouse."}, {"start": "00:28:10", "end": "00:28:15", "text": "Could that have been the work of the"}, {"start": "00:28:13", "end": "00:28:18", "text": "extraterrestrials?"}, {"start": "00:28:15", "end": "00:28:21", "text": "Could that have been his intuition?"}, {"start": "00:28:18", "end": "00:28:24", "text": "some type of"}, {"start": "00:28:21", "end": "00:28:26", "text": "predictive or premonition"}, {"start": "00:28:24", "end": "00:28:30", "text": "instinct that he had and he was just"}, {"start": "00:28:26", "end": "00:28:30", "text": "kind of like I need to do this."}, {"start": "00:28:31", "end": "00:28:36", "text": "It's interesting too because"}, {"start": "00:28:34", "end": "00:28:38", "text": "the agents seem to know exactly where to"}, {"start": "00:28:36", "end": "00:28:42", "text": "look first. Like that is a very"}, {"start": "00:28:38", "end": "00:28:42", "text": "pertinent detail."}, {"start": "00:28:42", "end": "00:28:48", "text": "How would they know that?"}, {"start": "00:28:45", "end": "00:28:50", "text": "They shouldn't know that detail. So the"}, {"start": "00:28:48", "end": "00:28:52", "text": "fact that they do know that"}, {"start": "00:28:50", "end": "00:28:54", "text": "I don't know that doesn't sit well with"}, {"start": "00:28:52", "end": "00:28:57", "text": "me. It seems now I don't want to go and"}, {"start": "00:28:54", "end": "00:29:01", "text": "say ah maybe the men in black here are"}, {"start": "00:28:57", "end": "00:29:03", "text": "somehow using non-human technology to"}, {"start": "00:29:01", "end": "00:29:06", "text": "find that out. Maybe so"}, {"start": "00:29:03", "end": "00:29:09", "text": "and maybe to counter that you know he"}, {"start": "00:29:06", "end": "00:29:11", "text": "had to go unconscious and like do this"}, {"start": "00:29:09", "end": "00:29:12", "text": "do this thing so so that they couldn't"}, {"start": "00:29:11", "end": "00:29:14", "text": "see you know perhaps through his eyes. I"}, {"start": "00:29:12", "end": "00:29:17", "text": "don't know. I'm grasping at straws here,"}, {"start": "00:29:14", "end": "00:29:20", "text": "but I'm I'd like uh theory crafting"}, {"start": "00:29:17", "end": "00:29:22", "text": "based on what we're hearing."}, {"start": "00:29:20", "end": "00:29:25", "text": "Even though I was extremely nervous"}, {"start": "00:29:22", "end": "00:29:27", "text": "inside, I was laughing. These people"}, {"start": "00:29:25", "end": "00:29:30", "text": "were so confused that it was actually"}, {"start": "00:29:27", "end": "00:29:32", "text": "funny. Their arrogance started to fade."}, {"start": "00:29:30", "end": "00:29:34", "text": "For a moment, though, I it wasn't funny."}, {"start": "00:29:32", "end": "00:29:35", "text": "When one of them went out to the"}, {"start": "00:29:34", "end": "00:29:37", "text": "balcony,"}, {"start": "00:29:35", "end": "00:29:39", "text": "I inhaled deeply and stopped breathing"}, {"start": "00:29:37", "end": "00:29:42", "text": "for a few seconds. He looked everywhere"}, {"start": "00:29:39", "end": "00:29:45", "text": "and approached the dog house."}, {"start": "00:29:42", "end": "00:29:47", "text": "Christina barked at him and went inside"}, {"start": "00:29:45", "end": "00:29:49", "text": "her little house. I saw everything from"}, {"start": "00:29:47", "end": "00:29:51", "text": "a window in the living room. The man"}, {"start": "00:29:49", "end": "00:29:54", "text": "came back inside"}, {"start": "00:29:51", "end": "00:29:58", "text": "and I could breathe again."}, {"start": "00:29:54", "end": "00:30:02", "text": "One of them who wore a gayaber."}, {"start": "00:29:58", "end": "00:30:04", "text": "A guya is a is like a white shirt"}, {"start": "00:30:02", "end": "00:30:07", "text": "South American"}, {"start": "00:30:04", "end": "00:30:09", "text": "style clothing. How do I know that? But"}, {"start": "00:30:07", "end": "00:30:12", "text": "also,"}, {"start": "00:30:09", "end": "00:30:15", "text": "this kind of gives me a better idea."}, {"start": "00:30:12", "end": "00:30:17", "text": "Probably not Caucasian, probably local,"}, {"start": "00:30:15", "end": "00:30:19", "text": "at least the um the three other men that"}, {"start": "00:30:17", "end": "00:30:20", "text": "were with this gentleman."}, {"start": "00:30:19", "end": "00:30:22", "text": "And again, the fact that he didn't"}, {"start": "00:30:20", "end": "00:30:26", "text": "mention that he looked or spoke American"}, {"start": "00:30:22", "end": "00:30:29", "text": "probably means that he wasn't."}, {"start": "00:30:26", "end": "00:30:31", "text": "So, one of them who wore a guya"}, {"start": "00:30:29", "end": "00:30:33", "text": "took out a plastic bag from his pocket."}, {"start": "00:30:31", "end": "00:30:35", "text": "He put in it all the photo negatives"}, {"start": "00:30:33", "end": "00:30:37", "text": "they found inside the house. They were"}, {"start": "00:30:35", "end": "00:30:40", "text": "negatives of family activities like"}, {"start": "00:30:37", "end": "00:30:42", "text": "birthdays, weddings, and baptisms."}, {"start": "00:30:40", "end": "00:30:44", "text": "They don't know why they wanted those"}, {"start": "00:30:42", "end": "00:30:46", "text": "since they had nothing to do with what"}, {"start": "00:30:44", "end": "00:30:48", "text": "they were looking for."}, {"start": "00:30:46", "end": "00:30:50", "text": "They even removed the frames from the"}, {"start": "00:30:48", "end": "00:30:52", "text": "paintings in our house. Also, they"}, {"start": "00:30:50", "end": "00:30:55", "text": "looked inside every porcelain and"}, {"start": "00:30:52", "end": "00:30:57", "text": "plaster, hoping to find those negatives."}, {"start": "00:30:55", "end": "00:30:59", "text": "The search was executed very"}, {"start": "00:30:57", "end": "00:31:01", "text": "methodically, leaving everything where"}, {"start": "00:30:59", "end": "00:31:02", "text": "they'd found it. It wasn't like in the"}, {"start": "00:31:01", "end": "00:31:04", "text": "movies where agents shatter everything"}, {"start": "00:31:02", "end": "00:31:07", "text": "during a search. Every specific area"}, {"start": "00:31:04", "end": "00:31:09", "text": "that they had searched, they did so"}, {"start": "00:31:07", "end": "00:31:11", "text": "paying much attention to detail. The"}, {"start": "00:31:09", "end": "00:31:12", "text": "funniest part was when they opened the"}, {"start": "00:31:11", "end": "00:31:15", "text": "refrigerator and actually looked between"}, {"start": "00:31:12", "end": "00:31:17", "text": "some eggplant slices that my grandmother"}, {"start": "00:31:15", "end": "00:31:20", "text": "had left in there and that it started to"}, {"start": "00:31:17", "end": "00:31:21", "text": "go bad."}, {"start": "00:31:20", "end": "00:31:25", "text": "I stayed put in the living room,"}, {"start": "00:31:21", "end": "00:31:27", "text": "observing them and quiet. They in turn"}, {"start": "00:31:25", "end": "00:31:29", "text": "ignored me and didn't speak either. At a"}, {"start": "00:31:27", "end": "00:31:31", "text": "certain moment, their behavior changed."}, {"start": "00:31:29", "end": "00:31:34", "text": "and it looked like they were about to"}, {"start": "00:31:31", "end": "00:31:35", "text": "give up. They searched the two rooms,"}, {"start": "00:31:34", "end": "00:31:37", "text": "the bathroom, the living room, the"}, {"start": "00:31:35", "end": "00:31:40", "text": "kitchen."}, {"start": "00:31:37", "end": "00:31:43", "text": "They were there the entire afternoon."}, {"start": "00:31:40", "end": "00:31:46", "text": "When they finally gave up, they left"}, {"start": "00:31:43", "end": "00:31:47", "text": "without saying a word. As they went out"}, {"start": "00:31:46", "end": "00:31:49", "text": "the gate and got into the gray four-door"}, {"start": "00:31:47", "end": "00:31:50", "text": "car, pretty much my whole family was"}, {"start": "00:31:49", "end": "00:31:52", "text": "just arriving. Apparently, my cousin"}, {"start": "00:31:50", "end": "00:31:55", "text": "Danny had alerted every member of the"}, {"start": "00:31:52", "end": "00:31:58", "text": "family in Cabaroho. Mama seemed like she"}, {"start": "00:31:55", "end": "00:32:00", "text": "had calmed down. When they all went in,"}, {"start": "00:31:58", "end": "00:32:02", "text": "they were puzzled. They expected to find"}, {"start": "00:32:00", "end": "00:32:04", "text": "the place thrashed, yet nothing looked"}, {"start": "00:32:02", "end": "00:32:06", "text": "out of place. We all gathered in the"}, {"start": "00:32:04", "end": "00:32:07", "text": "living room, and I told them what"}, {"start": "00:32:06", "end": "00:32:09", "text": "happened."}, {"start": "00:32:07", "end": "00:32:11", "text": "They all wanted to speak and ask"}, {"start": "00:32:09", "end": "00:32:13", "text": "questions at the same time. It was as if"}, {"start": "00:32:11", "end": "00:32:14", "text": "we'd all gotten together for some"}, {"start": "00:32:13", "end": "00:32:17", "text": "holiday or something. It was like"}, {"start": "00:32:14", "end": "00:32:19", "text": "Thanksgiving, but with no turkey. What"}, {"start": "00:32:17", "end": "00:32:21", "text": "most surprised everyone was that same"}, {"start": "00:32:19", "end": "00:32:24", "text": "morning, I thought of hiding the"}, {"start": "00:32:21", "end": "00:32:26", "text": "pictures in the doghouse. Again,"}, {"start": "00:32:24", "end": "00:32:28", "text": "everyone came up with their own theory"}, {"start": "00:32:26", "end": "00:32:30", "text": "for that. Some said that a spirit had"}, {"start": "00:32:28", "end": "00:32:32", "text": "alerted me, others that it had been my"}, {"start": "00:32:30", "end": "00:32:36", "text": "sixth sense. And yet others thought that"}, {"start": "00:32:32", "end": "00:32:38", "text": "the extraterrestrials were guiding me."}, {"start": "00:32:36", "end": "00:32:41", "text": "That kind of I mean that's where my"}, {"start": "00:32:38", "end": "00:32:42", "text": "head's at too. I feel like that is there"}, {"start": "00:32:41", "end": "00:32:45", "text": "there there seems to be some"}, {"start": "00:32:42", "end": "00:32:49", "text": "intervention and and you know what the"}, {"start": "00:32:45", "end": "00:32:50", "text": "origin of that is I don't know."}, {"start": "00:32:49", "end": "00:32:55", "text": "since we were all gathered together. By"}, {"start": "00:32:50", "end": "00:32:57", "text": "the way, there is a story somebody uh"}, {"start": "00:32:55", "end": "00:32:59", "text": "who told me this."}, {"start": "00:32:57", "end": "00:33:03", "text": "This was a story as I was speaking to"}, {"start": "00:32:59", "end": "00:33:09", "text": "Ross Coltart one day and we were talking"}, {"start": "00:33:03", "end": "00:33:12", "text": "about how sometimes seeing crafts"}, {"start": "00:33:09", "end": "00:33:14", "text": "you'll have this like zombie-like state"}, {"start": "00:33:12", "end": "00:33:16", "text": "afterwards and do things that are out of"}, {"start": "00:33:14", "end": "00:33:19", "text": "the ordinary or just seem completely"}, {"start": "00:33:16", "end": "00:33:22", "text": "obscure in the moment. Sometimes it's"}, {"start": "00:33:19", "end": "00:33:24", "text": "like walking home, not saying hi to"}, {"start": "00:33:22", "end": "00:33:27", "text": "anyone, going straight to bed. Uh, but"}, {"start": "00:33:24", "end": "00:33:28", "text": "this one case was when a gentleman was"}, {"start": "00:33:27", "end": "00:33:32", "text": "outside. I think he was enjoying a"}, {"start": "00:33:28", "end": "00:33:35", "text": "cigarette and uh looks up, sees a giant"}, {"start": "00:33:32", "end": "00:33:38", "text": "triangular craft type deal, takes his"}, {"start": "00:33:35", "end": "00:33:39", "text": "phone out, snaps a the clearest picture,"}, {"start": "00:33:38", "end": "00:33:43", "text": "like"}, {"start": "00:33:39", "end": "00:33:45", "text": "100% disclosure, like this is the"}, {"start": "00:33:43", "end": "00:33:48", "text": "clearest picture. You could see every"}, {"start": "00:33:45", "end": "00:33:49", "text": "detail in this craft type deal. And uh"}, {"start": "00:33:48", "end": "00:33:51", "text": "he calls his brother and this is how it"}, {"start": "00:33:49", "end": "00:33:52", "text": "was corroborated because he ends up"}, {"start": "00:33:51", "end": "00:33:54", "text": "calling his brother and telling him"}, {"start": "00:33:52", "end": "00:33:57", "text": "about it. I have the clearest photo."}, {"start": "00:33:54", "end": "00:34:00", "text": "Like it's it was amazing. And his"}, {"start": "00:33:57", "end": "00:34:02", "text": "brother for some reason on the other"}, {"start": "00:34:00", "end": "00:34:04", "text": "line ends up saying, \"Oh, cool. I'm"}, {"start": "00:34:02", "end": "00:34:08", "text": "really tired. I'm going to bed.\" Like"}, {"start": "00:34:04", "end": "00:34:09", "text": "and this wasn't like his brother."}, {"start": "00:34:08", "end": "00:34:11", "text": "Like the fact that he just like brushed"}, {"start": "00:34:09", "end": "00:34:13", "text": "it aside almost like he was being"}, {"start": "00:34:11", "end": "00:34:14", "text": "controlled and he's like, \"Yeah, me"}, {"start": "00:34:13", "end": "00:34:17", "text": "too.\" And both of them just went"}, {"start": "00:34:14", "end": "00:34:19", "text": "straight to bed. Now before or this is"}, {"start": "00:34:17", "end": "00:34:22", "text": "after yeah they went to bed and the next"}, {"start": "00:34:19", "end": "00:34:24", "text": "morning he gets up looks at his phone"}, {"start": "00:34:22", "end": "00:34:29", "text": "goes through the photo sees the clearest"}, {"start": "00:34:24", "end": "00:34:29", "text": "photo of a UFO he's ever seen"}, {"start": "00:34:29", "end": "00:34:34", "text": "proceeds to then delete it and go into"}, {"start": "00:34:32", "end": "00:34:37", "text": "the recently deleted and delete it"}, {"start": "00:34:34", "end": "00:34:37", "text": "again."}, {"start": "00:34:38", "end": "00:34:44", "text": "Convenient. You know, if you're a"}, {"start": "00:34:41", "end": "00:34:47", "text": "researcher out there or even a skeptic,"}, {"start": "00:34:44", "end": "00:34:49", "text": "you're going, \"Well, of course he did.\""}, {"start": "00:34:47", "end": "00:34:50", "text": "But that seems to be part for the course"}, {"start": "00:34:49", "end": "00:34:52", "text": "when it comes to this stuff. There seems"}, {"start": "00:34:50", "end": "00:34:54", "text": "to be something else at play here that"}, {"start": "00:34:52", "end": "00:34:58", "text": "is controlling"}, {"start": "00:34:54", "end": "00:35:00", "text": "disclosure from the inside. As they say,"}, {"start": "00:34:58", "end": "00:35:01", "text": "the call is coming from in inside the"}, {"start": "00:35:00", "end": "00:35:05", "text": "house."}, {"start": "00:35:01", "end": "00:35:08", "text": "like the NHI are collaborating with some"}, {"start": "00:35:05", "end": "00:35:10", "text": "faction of the government to"}, {"start": "00:35:08", "end": "00:35:12", "text": "keep a lid on this somehow. You know,"}, {"start": "00:35:10", "end": "00:35:14", "text": "there's always a piece of information"}, {"start": "00:35:12", "end": "00:35:16", "text": "and it just always ends up slipping out"}, {"start": "00:35:14", "end": "00:35:18", "text": "of your hands as soon as whether it's a"}, {"start": "00:35:16", "end": "00:35:21", "text": "witness or a photo or a video. It's"}, {"start": "00:35:18", "end": "00:35:24", "text": "always just right there and then it just"}, {"start": "00:35:21", "end": "00:35:25", "text": "goes away."}, {"start": "00:35:24", "end": "00:35:30", "text": "And it seems like in this case, at the"}, {"start": "00:35:25", "end": "00:35:33", "text": "very least, the only way to negate that"}, {"start": "00:35:30", "end": "00:35:36", "text": "is to sort of unconsciously have these,"}, {"start": "00:35:33", "end": "00:35:37", "text": "you know, guided moments where you just"}, {"start": "00:35:36", "end": "00:35:38", "text": "kind of do something and that confuses"}, {"start": "00:35:37", "end": "00:35:44", "text": "them. It throws them off the scent"}, {"start": "00:35:38", "end": "00:35:44", "text": "somehow. Very strange, very cool."}, {"start": "00:35:47", "end": "00:35:54", "text": "I got to say, shout out to Amorei cuz um"}, {"start": "00:35:51", "end": "00:35:55", "text": "he's a very compelling writer. I enjoy"}, {"start": "00:35:54", "end": "00:35:58", "text": "reading his writing. He's not a writer."}, {"start": "00:35:55", "end": "00:36:00", "text": "There's plenty of mistakes here. This"}, {"start": "00:35:58", "end": "00:36:04", "text": "was obviously translated as well, but"}, {"start": "00:36:00", "end": "00:36:06", "text": "it's really good. I enjoy reading this."}, {"start": "00:36:04", "end": "00:36:07", "text": "Since we were all gathered together, I"}, {"start": "00:36:06", "end": "00:36:10", "text": "took the opportunity to tell them that"}, {"start": "00:36:07", "end": "00:36:13", "text": "from now on, if anyone asked about the"}, {"start": "00:36:10", "end": "00:36:15", "text": "pictures or my whole experience,"}, {"start": "00:36:13", "end": "00:36:17", "text": "they were to tell them that it was all"}, {"start": "00:36:15", "end": "00:36:19", "text": "made up. I wanted to end everything once"}, {"start": "00:36:17", "end": "00:36:21", "text": "and for all."}, {"start": "00:36:19", "end": "00:36:23", "text": "That same night, I thought of destroying"}, {"start": "00:36:21", "end": "00:36:25", "text": "all the evidence, but instead I decided"}, {"start": "00:36:23", "end": "00:36:27", "text": "to send it to Japan to my brother"}, {"start": "00:36:25", "end": "00:36:29", "text": "Charlie and his wife. Junior, my oldest"}, {"start": "00:36:27", "end": "00:36:31", "text": "cousin, took the pictures and negatives"}, {"start": "00:36:29", "end": "00:36:32", "text": "home with him. He later told me he"}, {"start": "00:36:31", "end": "00:36:35", "text": "couldn't sleep because he kept thinking"}, {"start": "00:36:32", "end": "00:36:37", "text": "that the CIA would come to his house."}, {"start": "00:36:35", "end": "00:36:39", "text": "The men who came to my home identified"}, {"start": "00:36:37", "end": "00:36:41", "text": "themselves as CIA, but who's to know"}, {"start": "00:36:39", "end": "00:36:43", "text": "where they came from? The next day, we"}, {"start": "00:36:41", "end": "00:36:45", "text": "went to the post office in a different"}, {"start": "00:36:43", "end": "00:36:47", "text": "town, and Junior sent everything to"}, {"start": "00:36:45", "end": "00:36:48", "text": "Japan."}, {"start": "00:36:47", "end": "00:36:50", "text": "We had already called my brother from a"}, {"start": "00:36:48", "end": "00:36:52", "text": "friend's house. We told him not to call"}, {"start": "00:36:50", "end": "00:36:54", "text": "us from his phone. We feared that if"}, {"start": "00:36:52", "end": "00:36:56", "text": "indeed those men were from the CIA, our"}, {"start": "00:36:54", "end": "00:36:57", "text": "phones were probably tapped. Charlie"}, {"start": "00:36:56", "end": "00:37:00", "text": "knew this friend of ours, so it was"}, {"start": "00:36:57", "end": "00:37:02", "text": "enough to tell him. Charlie, it's me."}, {"start": "00:37:00", "end": "00:37:06", "text": "Don't ask questions. Just call me at"}, {"start": "00:37:02", "end": "00:37:09", "text": "Paritos, but don't use your phone. We"}, {"start": "00:37:06", "end": "00:37:11", "text": "hung up and he called back right away."}, {"start": "00:37:09", "end": "00:37:14", "text": "I told him what had happened with those"}, {"start": "00:37:11", "end": "00:37:16", "text": "men who said they were from the CIA."}, {"start": "00:37:14", "end": "00:37:18", "text": "We told him we would send him the"}, {"start": "00:37:16", "end": "00:37:20", "text": "package to the house of a friend of his"}, {"start": "00:37:18", "end": "00:37:22", "text": "wife. When he got the package, he"}, {"start": "00:37:20", "end": "00:37:25", "text": "immediately took it to a safety deposit"}, {"start": "00:37:22", "end": "00:37:27", "text": "box in a bank. He hid the key in a metal"}, {"start": "00:37:25", "end": "00:37:30", "text": "closet"}, {"start": "00:37:27", "end": "00:37:33", "text": "uh he had where he was stationed."}, {"start": "00:37:30", "end": "00:37:35", "text": "After all this, when we talked on the"}, {"start": "00:37:33", "end": "00:37:37", "text": "phone and we talk about the pictures, we"}, {"start": "00:37:35", "end": "00:37:39", "text": "would refer to them as the baby. How is"}, {"start": "00:37:37", "end": "00:37:41", "text": "the baby? Has anyone come asking about"}, {"start": "00:37:39", "end": "00:37:43", "text": "the baby? My brother Charlie gave such"}, {"start": "00:37:41", "end": "00:37:45", "text": "good advice. It's really a shame I"}, {"start": "00:37:43", "end": "00:37:49", "text": "didn't listen to him. I think maybe"}, {"start": "00:37:45", "end": "00:37:52", "text": "things had to happen that way."}, {"start": "00:37:49", "end": "00:37:55", "text": "First of all, Charlie, what a G. Not"}, {"start": "00:37:52", "end": "00:37:58", "text": "only did"}, {"start": "00:37:55", "end": "00:38:02", "text": "Amorei have the foresight to give the"}, {"start": "00:37:58", "end": "00:38:04", "text": "negatives to a friend."}, {"start": "00:38:02", "end": "00:38:07", "text": "Tell the friend to use a different phone"}, {"start": "00:38:04", "end": "00:38:08", "text": "to call Charlie. Tell Charlie to use a"}, {"start": "00:38:07", "end": "00:38:11", "text": "different phone to call this other"}, {"start": "00:38:08", "end": "00:38:14", "text": "friend back. go to a different town to"}, {"start": "00:38:11", "end": "00:38:16", "text": "ship them off and then reference the"}, {"start": "00:38:14", "end": "00:38:18", "text": "like I mean this is like straight up spy"}, {"start": "00:38:16", "end": "00:38:22", "text": "school and good for them and that's"}, {"start": "00:38:18", "end": "00:38:23", "text": "probably part of the reason that we're"}, {"start": "00:38:22", "end": "00:38:26", "text": "talking about these photos and getting"}, {"start": "00:38:23", "end": "00:38:30", "text": "to see them right now was all that care"}, {"start": "00:38:26", "end": "00:38:34", "text": "because as you can tell there's like"}, {"start": "00:38:30", "end": "00:38:36", "text": "almost no hiding from these agents."}, {"start": "00:38:34", "end": "00:38:39", "text": "So many stories happen where they see a"}, {"start": "00:38:36", "end": "00:38:42", "text": "craft and hours later they're accosted"}, {"start": "00:38:39", "end": "00:38:45", "text": "by some gentleman in a diplomatic"}, {"start": "00:38:42", "end": "00:38:46", "text": "vehicle"}, {"start": "00:38:45", "end": "00:38:49", "text": "even though they didn't tell anybody"}, {"start": "00:38:46", "end": "00:38:49", "text": "about it."}, {"start": "00:38:50", "end": "00:38:53", "text": "And so he's staying one step ahead. I"}, {"start": "00:38:52", "end": "00:38:56", "text": "think this is awesome. This is such a"}, {"start": "00:38:53", "end": "00:38:58", "text": "cool I could see I I want to see a movie"}, {"start": "00:38:56", "end": "00:39:02", "text": "made of this uh this story so far. It"}, {"start": "00:38:58", "end": "00:39:02", "text": "would be so cool."}, {"start": "00:39:02", "end": "00:39:07", "text": "Chapter 10. I still worked at the"}, {"start": "00:39:04", "end": "00:39:10", "text": "Tamarindo selling hot dogs. Little by"}, {"start": "00:39:07", "end": "00:39:12", "text": "little, I started to make it look nice."}, {"start": "00:39:10", "end": "00:39:14", "text": "Planted a few flowers and other plants,"}, {"start": "00:39:12", "end": "00:39:16", "text": "and I took real good care of them. Weeks"}, {"start": "00:39:14", "end": "00:39:19", "text": "went by and I didn't get any unexpected"}, {"start": "00:39:16", "end": "00:39:20", "text": "visits. I tried to follow my brother's"}, {"start": "00:39:19", "end": "00:39:22", "text": "advice to forget about the whole thing,"}, {"start": "00:39:20", "end": "00:39:24", "text": "invest my time in more productive"}, {"start": "00:39:22", "end": "00:39:26", "text": "things, and to keep the experience to"}, {"start": "00:39:24", "end": "00:39:29", "text": "myself."}, {"start": "00:39:26", "end": "00:39:31", "text": "I built a small garden at the Tamarindo."}, {"start": "00:39:29", "end": "00:39:33", "text": "When I had no clients in the afternoon,"}, {"start": "00:39:31", "end": "00:39:36", "text": "I would lay on my hammock and enjoy the"}, {"start": "00:39:33", "end": "00:39:40", "text": "magnificent breeze and the landscape."}, {"start": "00:39:36", "end": "00:39:42", "text": "From there, the hills looked beautiful."}, {"start": "00:39:40", "end": "00:39:46", "text": "I got to say, Amorei really knows how to"}, {"start": "00:39:42", "end": "00:39:48", "text": "live. This sounds very pleasant."}, {"start": "00:39:46", "end": "00:39:50", "text": "In that little garden, I shared many"}, {"start": "00:39:48", "end": "00:39:53", "text": "wonderful moments with my family and"}, {"start": "00:39:50", "end": "00:39:55", "text": "friends. I was again able to bury in my"}, {"start": "00:39:53", "end": "00:39:57", "text": "subconscious the things related to"}, {"start": "00:39:55", "end": "00:40:00", "text": "issues not of this earth."}, {"start": "00:39:57", "end": "00:40:02", "text": "though it was still what I thought about"}, {"start": "00:40:00", "end": "00:40:05", "text": "when I woke up. My brother and I stopped"}, {"start": "00:40:02", "end": "00:40:08", "text": "talking about the baby in our"}, {"start": "00:40:05", "end": "00:40:11", "text": "conversations and letters."}, {"start": "00:40:08", "end": "00:40:13", "text": "My clientele increased considerably. I"}, {"start": "00:40:11", "end": "00:40:15", "text": "felt happy, but I couldn't smile as"}, {"start": "00:40:13", "end": "00:40:17", "text": "often as I did before."}, {"start": "00:40:15", "end": "00:40:18", "text": "Few years went by without problems,"}, {"start": "00:40:17", "end": "00:40:20", "text": "except for those common everyday life"}, {"start": "00:40:18", "end": "00:40:23", "text": "ones like paying the bills and my car"}, {"start": "00:40:20", "end": "00:40:27", "text": "breaking down, etc. Everyday stuff. The"}, {"start": "00:40:23", "end": "00:40:28", "text": "worst, however, was yet to come."}, {"start": "00:40:27", "end": "00:40:31", "text": "A being came into my life that would"}, {"start": "00:40:28", "end": "00:40:32", "text": "only bring about all kinds of trouble."}, {"start": "00:40:31", "end": "00:40:34", "text": "I'm not talking about an"}, {"start": "00:40:32", "end": "00:40:36", "text": "extraterrestrial."}, {"start": "00:40:34", "end": "00:40:38", "text": "This was a totally egotistical"}, {"start": "00:40:36", "end": "00:40:40", "text": "individual."}, {"start": "00:40:38", "end": "00:40:42", "text": "Maybe out of personal frustrations or"}, {"start": "00:40:40", "end": "00:40:44", "text": "lack of attention. Because of people"}, {"start": "00:40:42", "end": "00:40:45", "text": "like him, it's not hard to get an idea"}, {"start": "00:40:44", "end": "00:40:48", "text": "of why things are the way they are in"}, {"start": "00:40:45", "end": "00:40:51", "text": "this world. Money sometimes has a"}, {"start": "00:40:48", "end": "00:40:53", "text": "supernatural power over some people."}, {"start": "00:40:51", "end": "00:40:55", "text": "It's mesmerizing to see the things some"}, {"start": "00:40:53", "end": "00:41:00", "text": "people are willing to do in order to get"}, {"start": "00:40:55", "end": "00:41:00", "text": "it. even destroy other people's lives."}, {"start": "00:41:01", "end": "00:41:06", "text": "Foreshadowing once again. And I got to"}, {"start": "00:41:03", "end": "00:41:09", "text": "say, you know, Amorei sounds like a very"}, {"start": "00:41:06", "end": "00:41:11", "text": "reasonable person here. And he sounds"}, {"start": "00:41:09", "end": "00:41:13", "text": "like he's got his head screwed well onto"}, {"start": "00:41:11", "end": "00:41:17", "text": "his shoulders, enjoying life, doesn't"}, {"start": "00:41:13", "end": "00:41:17", "text": "care about money."}, {"start": "00:41:18", "end": "00:41:21", "text": "If you're out there, Amorei, and you're"}, {"start": "00:41:20", "end": "00:41:23", "text": "listening to this, you know, reach out."}, {"start": "00:41:21", "end": "00:41:24", "text": "I think I've reached out to you. who"}, {"start": "00:41:23", "end": "00:41:26", "text": "I've tried to reach out to you numerous"}, {"start": "00:41:24", "end": "00:41:29", "text": "ways, but find me. Would love to have a"}, {"start": "00:41:26", "end": "00:41:29", "text": "chat."}, {"start": "00:41:30", "end": "00:41:35", "text": "One day, I arrived at the Tamarindo and"}, {"start": "00:41:32", "end": "00:41:38", "text": "there was a large wine and graycoled car"}, {"start": "00:41:35", "end": "00:41:40", "text": "parked there. I started to set up as"}, {"start": "00:41:38", "end": "00:41:41", "text": "usual. I noticed that inside that old"}, {"start": "00:41:40", "end": "00:41:44", "text": "car was a man who stared at me like a"}, {"start": "00:41:41", "end": "00:41:46", "text": "vulture. His crazy eyes made me"}, {"start": "00:41:44", "end": "00:41:48", "text": "uncomfortable."}, {"start": "00:41:46", "end": "00:41:50", "text": "I didn't want to turn my back to him,"}, {"start": "00:41:48", "end": "00:41:52", "text": "but I had to because of where we he was"}, {"start": "00:41:50", "end": "00:41:55", "text": "parked."}, {"start": "00:41:52", "end": "00:41:58", "text": "What did he want? Who was he? Kept"}, {"start": "00:41:55", "end": "00:41:59", "text": "thinking. While I was cooking the hot"}, {"start": "00:41:58", "end": "00:42:02", "text": "dogs, he got out of the car and"}, {"start": "00:41:59", "end": "00:42:03", "text": "approached me. I got nervous and felt"}, {"start": "00:42:02", "end": "00:42:06", "text": "uneasy."}, {"start": "00:42:03", "end": "00:42:10", "text": "He had black hair, a wide face, tan"}, {"start": "00:42:06", "end": "00:42:12", "text": "skin, and his body was enormous. His"}, {"start": "00:42:10", "end": "00:42:14", "text": "complexion was not good due to his"}, {"start": "00:42:12", "end": "00:42:16", "text": "obesity."}, {"start": "00:42:14", "end": "00:42:18", "text": "He identified himself as an investigator"}, {"start": "00:42:16", "end": "00:42:21", "text": "of the UFO phenomenon. That damn word"}, {"start": "00:42:18", "end": "00:42:23", "text": "again, I thought to myself. He then"}, {"start": "00:42:21", "end": "00:42:26", "text": "formally introduced himself and for our"}, {"start": "00:42:23", "end": "00:42:28", "text": "purposes we'll call him Mr. B. Mr. B"}, {"start": "00:42:26", "end": "00:42:31", "text": "told me he worked for a local magazine"}, {"start": "00:42:28", "end": "00:42:33", "text": "that covered that subject among others."}, {"start": "00:42:31", "end": "00:42:34", "text": "He said that word got to him that I'd"}, {"start": "00:42:33", "end": "00:42:37", "text": "had an encounter with extraterrestrial"}, {"start": "00:42:34", "end": "00:42:39", "text": "beings and that I even managed to take a"}, {"start": "00:42:37", "end": "00:42:41", "text": "picture of a ship beside a military"}, {"start": "00:42:39", "end": "00:42:44", "text": "plane. I didn't want to start this thing"}, {"start": "00:42:41", "end": "00:42:47", "text": "up again. I told Mr. B I knew nothing of"}, {"start": "00:42:44", "end": "00:42:49", "text": "the matter, Martians or any pictures."}, {"start": "00:42:47", "end": "00:42:51", "text": "By the way he was dressed. He didn't"}, {"start": "00:42:49", "end": "00:42:52", "text": "look like he worked for a magazine. And"}, {"start": "00:42:51", "end": "00:42:55", "text": "the moment he approached me with his"}, {"start": "00:42:52", "end": "00:42:56", "text": "beggar appearance, I didn't trust him. I"}, {"start": "00:42:55", "end": "00:43:00", "text": "even thought for a moment that he might"}, {"start": "00:42:56", "end": "00:43:02", "text": "be some CIA agent in disguise."}, {"start": "00:43:00", "end": "00:43:04", "text": "He insisted on the pictures and my"}, {"start": "00:43:02", "end": "00:43:06", "text": "experience. Again, I told him I knew"}, {"start": "00:43:04", "end": "00:43:08", "text": "nothing, that he was mistaken and maybe"}, {"start": "00:43:06", "end": "00:43:11", "text": "looking for someone else. He started to"}, {"start": "00:43:08", "end": "00:43:13", "text": "get on my nerves. I even lost focus on"}, {"start": "00:43:11", "end": "00:43:17", "text": "what I was doing. He then got in his car"}, {"start": "00:43:13", "end": "00:43:18", "text": "and left. He had ruined my whole day. I"}, {"start": "00:43:17", "end": "00:43:21", "text": "spend most of it thinking about him. A"}, {"start": "00:43:18", "end": "00:43:24", "text": "few days after that, he came by again."}, {"start": "00:43:21", "end": "00:43:26", "text": "This time, he was more pressing. I asked"}, {"start": "00:43:24", "end": "00:43:28", "text": "to please leave me alone. He told me the"}, {"start": "00:43:26", "end": "00:43:31", "text": "name of the magazine he supposedly"}, {"start": "00:43:28", "end": "00:43:33", "text": "worked for. I doubted it even existed. I"}, {"start": "00:43:31", "end": "00:43:35", "text": "didn't know what to make of things, he"}, {"start": "00:43:33", "end": "00:43:37", "text": "told me. He said he was personally in"}, {"start": "00:43:35", "end": "00:43:39", "text": "contact with an extraterrestrial being"}, {"start": "00:43:37", "end": "00:43:41", "text": "called Cosmin."}, {"start": "00:43:39", "end": "00:43:43", "text": "Also, he and some of his friends would"}, {"start": "00:43:41", "end": "00:43:45", "text": "do vigils and they had managed to record"}, {"start": "00:43:43", "end": "00:43:48", "text": "some UFOs flying over their heads at"}, {"start": "00:43:45", "end": "00:43:51", "text": "really low altitudes. He added that he"}, {"start": "00:43:48", "end": "00:43:52", "text": "had hundreds of UFO photographs. He"}, {"start": "00:43:51", "end": "00:43:54", "text": "tried to gain my trust by telling me"}, {"start": "00:43:52", "end": "00:43:57", "text": "these absurdities."}, {"start": "00:43:54", "end": "00:43:59", "text": "After harassing me the entire day, he"}, {"start": "00:43:57", "end": "00:44:01", "text": "left without the answer he was looking"}, {"start": "00:43:59", "end": "00:44:03", "text": "for. The next day, I went to a news"}, {"start": "00:44:01", "end": "00:44:05", "text": "stand to buy one of the local"}, {"start": "00:44:03", "end": "00:44:08", "text": "newspapers,"}, {"start": "00:44:05", "end": "00:44:10", "text": "El Vero."}, {"start": "00:44:08", "end": "00:44:12", "text": "Out of curiosity, I looked for the"}, {"start": "00:44:10", "end": "00:44:14", "text": "magazine Mr. B had mentioned. I was"}, {"start": "00:44:12", "end": "00:44:16", "text": "surprised when I found it. On the cover"}, {"start": "00:44:14", "end": "00:44:17", "text": "were the same strange creatures that"}, {"start": "00:44:16", "end": "00:44:19", "text": "looked like the one I saw. I was"}, {"start": "00:44:17", "end": "00:44:20", "text": "shocked."}, {"start": "00:44:19", "end": "00:44:23", "text": "I bought both the magazine and the"}, {"start": "00:44:20", "end": "00:44:24", "text": "newspaper. When I got to the Tamarindo,"}, {"start": "00:44:23", "end": "00:44:26", "text": "I took the magazine and went through it"}, {"start": "00:44:24", "end": "00:44:27", "text": "until I found the section that listed"}, {"start": "00:44:26", "end": "00:44:30", "text": "all of its collaborators, and the"}, {"start": "00:44:27", "end": "00:44:33", "text": "editor's name was Jorge Martin."}, {"start": "00:44:30", "end": "00:44:36", "text": "And I also found out that in fact, Mr. B"}, {"start": "00:44:33", "end": "00:44:39", "text": "was among the collaborators. I figured"}, {"start": "00:44:36", "end": "00:44:40", "text": "then that what he had told me was true."}, {"start": "00:44:39", "end": "00:44:42", "text": "In the afternoon, Mr. B came back to the"}, {"start": "00:44:40", "end": "00:44:44", "text": "Tamarindo."}, {"start": "00:44:42", "end": "00:44:47", "text": "This time I heard him out. He brought"}, {"start": "00:44:44", "end": "00:44:49", "text": "with him other copies of the magazine to"}, {"start": "00:44:47", "end": "00:44:51", "text": "try and convince me that what he was"}, {"start": "00:44:49", "end": "00:44:52", "text": "saying was true. He showed his name"}, {"start": "00:44:51", "end": "00:44:55", "text": "among the list of collaborators. I"}, {"start": "00:44:52", "end": "00:44:56", "text": "didn't mention that I'd already seen it."}, {"start": "00:44:55", "end": "00:44:59", "text": "I heard him out, but didn't give him any"}, {"start": "00:44:56", "end": "00:45:01", "text": "information. I repeat, I didn't trust"}, {"start": "00:44:59", "end": "00:45:03", "text": "Mr. B. Among the many stupid things that"}, {"start": "00:45:01", "end": "00:45:05", "text": "Mr. be wanted from me. He said he wanted"}, {"start": "00:45:03", "end": "00:45:08", "text": "me to admit that I'd taken the pictures"}, {"start": "00:45:05", "end": "00:45:10", "text": "with the UFO and military plane. He also"}, {"start": "00:45:08", "end": "00:45:12", "text": "said that Jorge Martin wanted to"}, {"start": "00:45:10", "end": "00:45:14", "text": "interview me, that every day when I got"}, {"start": "00:45:12", "end": "00:45:17", "text": "to the Tamarindo, I should raise my arms"}, {"start": "00:45:14", "end": "00:45:19", "text": "and facing the Sieras Bhas, I should say"}, {"start": "00:45:17", "end": "00:45:21", "text": "everything for others, that demons were"}, {"start": "00:45:19", "end": "00:45:23", "text": "after him, and that the devil wanted him"}, {"start": "00:45:21", "end": "00:45:25", "text": "to form a new religion, that he and his"}, {"start": "00:45:23", "end": "00:45:28", "text": "wife saw human shadows on the doors of"}, {"start": "00:45:25", "end": "00:45:31", "text": "their home. The things he was telling me"}, {"start": "00:45:28", "end": "00:45:33", "text": "were a blend between ET and The"}, {"start": "00:45:31", "end": "00:45:36", "text": "Exorcist."}, {"start": "00:45:33", "end": "00:45:38", "text": "All right. Clearly not buying, not"}, {"start": "00:45:36", "end": "00:45:40", "text": "picking up what he's putting down, not"}, {"start": "00:45:38", "end": "00:45:43", "text": "buying what he's selling,"}, {"start": "00:45:40", "end": "00:45:45", "text": "not catching what he's throwing."}, {"start": "00:45:43", "end": "00:45:49", "text": "The things he said were scary, but what"}, {"start": "00:45:45", "end": "00:45:51", "text": "he drew on the ground were terrifying."}, {"start": "00:45:49", "end": "00:45:53", "text": "He tried very hard to get me to admit my"}, {"start": "00:45:51", "end": "00:45:55", "text": "encounter. I couldn't get rid of him. I"}, {"start": "00:45:53", "end": "00:45:58", "text": "didn't want to meet Mr. Martin. That's"}, {"start": "00:45:55", "end": "00:46:00", "text": "all I needed. two lunatics, people"}, {"start": "00:45:58", "end": "00:46:01", "text": "talking crazy. I judged Mr. Martin"}, {"start": "00:46:00", "end": "00:46:04", "text": "without knowing him. A grave mistake on"}, {"start": "00:46:01", "end": "00:46:06", "text": "my part. The thing was that if Mr. B"}, {"start": "00:46:04", "end": "00:46:09", "text": "represented that magazine, then I simply"}, {"start": "00:46:06", "end": "00:46:11", "text": "wasn't interested."}, {"start": "00:46:09", "end": "00:46:13", "text": "In time, I met Mr. Martin, and it turns"}, {"start": "00:46:11", "end": "00:46:15", "text": "out he is the complete opposite of Mr."}, {"start": "00:46:13", "end": "00:46:18", "text": "B. I met him because of a strange dream"}, {"start": "00:46:15", "end": "00:46:20", "text": "I had. I know it sounds weird, but"}, {"start": "00:46:18", "end": "00:46:22", "text": "that's how it happened. And so, that's"}, {"start": "00:46:20", "end": "00:46:24", "text": "how I'll write it. A little heads up."}, {"start": "00:46:22", "end": "00:46:26", "text": "From now on, things start to get even"}, {"start": "00:46:24", "end": "00:46:29", "text": "stranger."}, {"start": "00:46:26", "end": "00:46:31", "text": "The dream went like this. I found myself"}, {"start": "00:46:29", "end": "00:46:33", "text": "in Tamarindo."}, {"start": "00:46:31", "end": "00:46:36", "text": "It was night. My hot dog cart was"}, {"start": "00:46:33", "end": "00:46:38", "text": "nowhere to be found. With me was a local"}, {"start": "00:46:36", "end": "00:46:41", "text": "dog named Flaka. I was feeding her with"}, {"start": "00:46:38", "end": "00:46:43", "text": "pieces of hot dogs. I saw a man standing"}, {"start": "00:46:41", "end": "00:46:45", "text": "in the darkness below one of the trees."}, {"start": "00:46:43", "end": "00:46:48", "text": "He approached and I noticed he was"}, {"start": "00:46:45", "end": "00:46:50", "text": "dressed in black. He was about my height"}, {"start": "00:46:48", "end": "00:46:53", "text": "and had shoulderlength hair. He wore it"}, {"start": "00:46:50", "end": "00:46:58", "text": "back like an Indian. I didn't remember"}, {"start": "00:46:53", "end": "00:47:01", "text": "feeling scared. This younglook man said,"}, {"start": "00:46:58", "end": "00:47:04", "text": "\"Send the pictures to Jorge Martin, the"}, {"start": "00:47:01", "end": "00:47:08", "text": "one from the magazine.\""}, {"start": "00:47:04", "end": "00:47:10", "text": "After he spoke, I suddenly woke up. It"}, {"start": "00:47:08", "end": "00:47:13", "text": "was so real. And I knew I met that man"}, {"start": "00:47:10", "end": "00:47:16", "text": "before, but I I couldn't place him. The"}, {"start": "00:47:13", "end": "00:47:19", "text": "pictures, I thought. Sure enough, he was"}, {"start": "00:47:16", "end": "00:47:21", "text": "the same person as in the photographs."}, {"start": "00:47:19", "end": "00:47:23", "text": "He wore the same clothes. I never dreamt"}, {"start": "00:47:21", "end": "00:47:26", "text": "about him, only about the beings with"}, {"start": "00:47:23", "end": "00:47:29", "text": "the fetal heads. That night, after going"}, {"start": "00:47:26", "end": "00:47:30", "text": "over it thoroughly, I concluded that my"}, {"start": "00:47:29", "end": "00:47:32", "text": "subconscious created that dream because"}, {"start": "00:47:30", "end": "00:47:35", "text": "of Mr. Be's constant harassment about"}, {"start": "00:47:32", "end": "00:47:38", "text": "the pictures and him wanting me to talk"}, {"start": "00:47:35", "end": "00:47:40", "text": "to Mr. Martin. Now what's interesting"}, {"start": "00:47:38", "end": "00:47:43", "text": "here is"}, {"start": "00:47:40", "end": "00:47:43", "text": "dreams"}, {"start": "00:47:43", "end": "00:47:47", "text": "dreams are really interesting I find"}, {"start": "00:47:45", "end": "00:47:50", "text": "especially when it comes to experiencers"}, {"start": "00:47:47", "end": "00:47:53", "text": "because there is this blurred line of"}, {"start": "00:47:50", "end": "00:47:57", "text": "reality and then this alternate reality"}, {"start": "00:47:53", "end": "00:47:59", "text": "that happens in the nonwaking state and"}, {"start": "00:47:57", "end": "00:48:02", "text": "somewhere within that is this"}, {"start": "00:47:59", "end": "00:48:05", "text": "non-physical realm that we interact with"}, {"start": "00:48:02", "end": "00:48:07", "text": "on a daily basis. It sometimes acts as a"}, {"start": "00:48:05", "end": "00:48:09", "text": "synchronicity engine. Sometimes even"}, {"start": "00:48:07", "end": "00:48:11", "text": "according to people like do uh Rupert"}, {"start": "00:48:09", "end": "00:48:14", "text": "Sheldrake"}, {"start": "00:48:11", "end": "00:48:16", "text": "can be precognitive"}, {"start": "00:48:14", "end": "00:48:18", "text": "beings also seem to interact with us in"}, {"start": "00:48:16", "end": "00:48:22", "text": "these states whether they're altered"}, {"start": "00:48:18", "end": "00:48:26", "text": "through substance or in deep REM sort of"}, {"start": "00:48:22", "end": "00:48:28", "text": "sleep states."}, {"start": "00:48:26", "end": "00:48:30", "text": "Dreams are interesting, but they're so"}, {"start": "00:48:28", "end": "00:48:34", "text": "nebulous and hard. They're they're"}, {"start": "00:48:30", "end": "00:48:36", "text": "ethereal. They're just hard to measure."}, {"start": "00:48:34", "end": "00:48:39", "text": "And"}, {"start": "00:48:36", "end": "00:48:42", "text": "you know, we kind of neglect them for"}, {"start": "00:48:39", "end": "00:48:44", "text": "the most part as a society, as being an"}, {"start": "00:48:42", "end": "00:48:46", "text": "important part of"}, {"start": "00:48:44", "end": "00:48:48", "text": "our lives."}, {"start": "00:48:46", "end": "00:48:51", "text": "But the truth is"}, {"start": "00:48:48", "end": "00:48:54", "text": "that thousands of cultures"}, {"start": "00:48:51", "end": "00:48:57", "text": "for thousands of years"}, {"start": "00:48:54", "end": "00:49:00", "text": "placed such importance"}, {"start": "00:48:57", "end": "00:49:01", "text": "on them. Why would they why would they"}, {"start": "00:49:00", "end": "00:49:03", "text": "do that? Sure. Okay, they might be a"}, {"start": "00:49:01", "end": "00:49:05", "text": "little superstitious, but perhaps"}, {"start": "00:49:03", "end": "00:49:08", "text": "there's something more. Perhaps these"}, {"start": "00:49:05", "end": "00:49:10", "text": "dreams did act as some type of"}, {"start": "00:49:08", "end": "00:49:13", "text": "premonition or some type of message or"}, {"start": "00:49:10", "end": "00:49:16", "text": "uh, you know, gave people direction. I"}, {"start": "00:49:13", "end": "00:49:19", "text": "just think we've lost touch with"}, {"start": "00:49:16", "end": "00:49:20", "text": "the dream realm and we kind of take it"}, {"start": "00:49:19", "end": "00:49:22", "text": "for granted. We're like, uh, get your"}, {"start": "00:49:20", "end": "00:49:24", "text": "sleep, get your rest so you can, you"}, {"start": "00:49:22", "end": "00:49:26", "text": "know, wake up and work. But what if this"}, {"start": "00:49:24", "end": "00:49:29", "text": "alternate reality that we're living at"}, {"start": "00:49:26", "end": "00:49:31", "text": "night or whenever we dream is equally as"}, {"start": "00:49:29", "end": "00:49:35", "text": "important? is the yin to the yang. What"}, {"start": "00:49:31", "end": "00:49:38", "text": "if that is life also or a different part"}, {"start": "00:49:35", "end": "00:49:38", "text": "of it?"}, {"start": "00:49:40", "end": "00:49:43", "text": "I constantly ask myself who that man"}, {"start": "00:49:42", "end": "00:49:47", "text": "next to me and one of those little men"}, {"start": "00:49:43", "end": "00:49:49", "text": "was. Had he also been kidnapped by the"}, {"start": "00:49:47", "end": "00:49:51", "text": "big-headed creatures?"}, {"start": "00:49:49", "end": "00:49:53", "text": "I couldn't sleep. I banged my head"}, {"start": "00:49:51", "end": "00:49:56", "text": "thinking about it all through the night."}, {"start": "00:49:53", "end": "00:49:59", "text": "I decided to do then just that. Send the"}, {"start": "00:49:56", "end": "00:50:01", "text": "pictures to that editor. I interpreted"}, {"start": "00:49:59", "end": "00:50:03", "text": "the dream as my subconscious telling me"}, {"start": "00:50:01", "end": "00:50:05", "text": "what to do. I asked my father to send me"}, {"start": "00:50:03", "end": "00:50:06", "text": "some of the copies I'd sent him. He"}, {"start": "00:50:05", "end": "00:50:09", "text": "recommended I didn't mess with those"}, {"start": "00:50:06", "end": "00:50:11", "text": "people from the magazine, that it would"}, {"start": "00:50:09", "end": "00:50:13", "text": "only cause me trouble. He also reminded"}, {"start": "00:50:11", "end": "00:50:15", "text": "me of what happened with the CIA."}, {"start": "00:50:13", "end": "00:50:16", "text": "I didn't mention the dream to my father"}, {"start": "00:50:15", "end": "00:50:18", "text": "because I knew he would say it was an"}, {"start": "00:50:16", "end": "00:50:20", "text": "act of the devil. I didn't pay attention"}, {"start": "00:50:18", "end": "00:50:22", "text": "to his good advice and I sent the"}, {"start": "00:50:20", "end": "00:50:24", "text": "pictures anonymously to Jorge Martin."}, {"start": "00:50:22", "end": "00:50:26", "text": "Along with the pictures that included"}, {"start": "00:50:24", "end": "00:50:28", "text": "the enlarged one I had exhibited in the"}, {"start": "00:50:26", "end": "00:50:30", "text": "tamarindo, I added a note explaining the"}, {"start": "00:50:28", "end": "00:50:32", "text": "circumstances in which they were taken."}, {"start": "00:50:30", "end": "00:50:34", "text": "Okay, this is interesting. So, he sends"}, {"start": "00:50:32", "end": "00:50:37", "text": "them anonymously because he doesn't want"}, {"start": "00:50:34", "end": "00:50:39", "text": "trouble. Huh. Okay."}, {"start": "00:50:37", "end": "00:50:42", "text": "Mr. Martin was astonished when he saw"}, {"start": "00:50:39", "end": "00:50:43", "text": "the pictures. In his next visit, Mr. B"}, {"start": "00:50:42", "end": "00:50:46", "text": "mentioned that they had received an"}, {"start": "00:50:43", "end": "00:50:47", "text": "envelope and described its contents. I"}, {"start": "00:50:46", "end": "00:50:49", "text": "acted as though I was totally"}, {"start": "00:50:47", "end": "00:50:51", "text": "uninterested in what he was saying."}, {"start": "00:50:49", "end": "00:50:53", "text": "Then, Mr. be asked something that left"}, {"start": "00:50:51", "end": "00:50:56", "text": "me speechless."}, {"start": "00:50:53", "end": "00:50:58", "text": "Did you send them?"}, {"start": "00:50:56", "end": "00:51:00", "text": "I told him that it wasn't me and that he"}, {"start": "00:50:58", "end": "00:51:02", "text": "was being ridiculous."}, {"start": "00:51:00", "end": "00:51:04", "text": "He wasn't satisfied, so he kept digging."}, {"start": "00:51:02", "end": "00:51:07", "text": "Again, I begged him to leave me alone."}, {"start": "00:51:04", "end": "00:51:08", "text": "That day, he was irritated when he left,"}, {"start": "00:51:07", "end": "00:51:10", "text": "and the next time he came around was"}, {"start": "00:51:08", "end": "00:51:12", "text": "strictly as a client, so I therefore"}, {"start": "00:51:10", "end": "00:51:14", "text": "treated him with the same courtesy and"}, {"start": "00:51:12", "end": "00:51:16", "text": "friendliness I treat all of my clients."}, {"start": "00:51:14", "end": "00:51:19", "text": "Found it strange he didn't bring up"}, {"start": "00:51:16", "end": "00:51:22", "text": "subject. The next couple of days, he"}, {"start": "00:51:19", "end": "00:51:24", "text": "only drove by and waved. He looked at me"}, {"start": "00:51:22", "end": "00:51:27", "text": "anxiously, but did not stop the car. He"}, {"start": "00:51:24", "end": "00:51:30", "text": "couldn't resist for long, though. So,"}, {"start": "00:51:27", "end": "00:51:32", "text": "again, one day, he stopped. He again"}, {"start": "00:51:30", "end": "00:51:35", "text": "mentioned the subject, and that the"}, {"start": "00:51:32", "end": "00:51:36", "text": "editor wanted to meet me. There were"}, {"start": "00:51:35", "end": "00:51:38", "text": "other clients at the time, and I felt a"}, {"start": "00:51:36", "end": "00:51:39", "text": "little embarrassed. I didn't like the"}, {"start": "00:51:38", "end": "00:51:42", "text": "matter being discussed in front of them."}, {"start": "00:51:39", "end": "00:51:44", "text": "Mr. B kept talking about flying saucers"}, {"start": "00:51:42", "end": "00:51:46", "text": "and asking me to accept his offers. He"}, {"start": "00:51:44", "end": "00:51:48", "text": "insisted I talk to the editor. To get"}, {"start": "00:51:46", "end": "00:51:50", "text": "rid of him, I agreed to talk to Mr."}, {"start": "00:51:48", "end": "00:51:52", "text": "Martin. After hearing this, he got in"}, {"start": "00:51:50", "end": "00:51:55", "text": "his car and took off as if a thousand"}, {"start": "00:51:52", "end": "00:51:57", "text": "demons were chasing after him. The"}, {"start": "00:51:55", "end": "00:51:58", "text": "people asked me who this maniac was."}, {"start": "00:51:57", "end": "00:52:00", "text": "They said he looked mentally unstable"}, {"start": "00:51:58", "end": "00:52:04", "text": "and dangerous."}, {"start": "00:52:00", "end": "00:52:06", "text": "I I I mean, it's so funny because um"}, {"start": "00:52:04", "end": "00:52:09", "text": "clearly"}, {"start": "00:52:06", "end": "00:52:11", "text": "Amore's got like a bone to pick with"}, {"start": "00:52:09", "end": "00:52:14", "text": "this guy. Maybe we'll find out why."}, {"start": "00:52:11", "end": "00:52:16", "text": "probably justified, but he's painting"}, {"start": "00:52:14", "end": "00:52:18", "text": "him in like the most negative light,"}, {"start": "00:52:16", "end": "00:52:21", "text": "like his beggar appearance, his obesess,"}, {"start": "00:52:18", "end": "00:52:26", "text": "his like his pushy nature, and sort of"}, {"start": "00:52:21", "end": "00:52:29", "text": "his mental instability. All pretty um"}, {"start": "00:52:26", "end": "00:52:31", "text": "you know, vivid depictions of someone"}, {"start": "00:52:29", "end": "00:52:33", "text": "you would not want to be friends with."}, {"start": "00:52:31", "end": "00:52:36", "text": "So, I'm surprised he didn't use his"}, {"start": "00:52:33", "end": "00:52:40", "text": "actual name, but I guess he doesn't want"}, {"start": "00:52:36", "end": "00:52:42", "text": "to give him any uh credit whatsoever."}, {"start": "00:52:40", "end": "00:52:44", "text": "By the time I got home that afternoon, I"}, {"start": "00:52:42", "end": "00:52:46", "text": "was already regretting telling Mr. B"}, {"start": "00:52:44", "end": "00:52:48", "text": "about meeting the editor. When I told"}, {"start": "00:52:46", "end": "00:52:50", "text": "everyone home, they advised me not to do"}, {"start": "00:52:48", "end": "00:52:52", "text": "it."}, {"start": "00:52:50", "end": "00:52:53", "text": "They said by accepting to meet with the"}, {"start": "00:52:52", "end": "00:52:56", "text": "people from the magazine, I would imply"}, {"start": "00:52:53", "end": "00:52:58", "text": "that indeed I was the person they were"}, {"start": "00:52:56", "end": "00:53:02", "text": "looking for. I really didn't know what"}, {"start": "00:52:58", "end": "00:53:03", "text": "to do. On the one hand, I wanted to talk"}, {"start": "00:53:02", "end": "00:53:05", "text": "to someone who had knowledge on the"}, {"start": "00:53:03", "end": "00:53:08", "text": "subject, but on the other hand, I didn't"}, {"start": "00:53:05", "end": "00:53:09", "text": "want to know anything. I thought that"}, {"start": "00:53:08", "end": "00:53:11", "text": "maybe it couldn't hurt to talk to this"}, {"start": "00:53:09", "end": "00:53:13", "text": "person. I'd hear him out, but I didn't"}, {"start": "00:53:11", "end": "00:53:16", "text": "necessarily have to admit that I was the"}, {"start": "00:53:13", "end": "00:53:17", "text": "one who sent the pictures. Besides, it"}, {"start": "00:53:16", "end": "00:53:21", "text": "was a good opportunity to ask him to"}, {"start": "00:53:17", "end": "00:53:23", "text": "tell Mr. B to please leave me alone. It"}, {"start": "00:53:21", "end": "00:53:25", "text": "was a Saturday or a Sunday when Mr."}, {"start": "00:53:23", "end": "00:53:29", "text": "Martin came by the Tamarindo."}, {"start": "00:53:25", "end": "00:53:30", "text": "Mr. B was not with him, came alone. When"}, {"start": "00:53:29", "end": "00:53:32", "text": "he got out of the car, I thought he was"}, {"start": "00:53:30", "end": "00:53:34", "text": "a client, so I asked him if he wanted a"}, {"start": "00:53:32", "end": "00:53:36", "text": "hot dog."}, {"start": "00:53:34", "end": "00:53:38", "text": "He held out his hand and introduced"}, {"start": "00:53:36", "end": "00:53:40", "text": "himself. He asked me if I was Amorei,"}, {"start": "00:53:38", "end": "00:53:42", "text": "the one with the pictures. Not knowing"}, {"start": "00:53:40", "end": "00:53:44", "text": "why, I said yes. Again, not knowing the"}, {"start": "00:53:42", "end": "00:53:47", "text": "reason, right there in front of my cart,"}, {"start": "00:53:44", "end": "00:53:49", "text": "I told him about my experience. I got"}, {"start": "00:53:47", "end": "00:53:50", "text": "nervous and my knees started to tremble."}, {"start": "00:53:49", "end": "00:53:53", "text": "I even had to grab onto the cart's"}, {"start": "00:53:50", "end": "00:53:56", "text": "umbrella. I could barely contain the"}, {"start": "00:53:53", "end": "00:53:58", "text": "tears. Inevitably, I started to cry when"}, {"start": "00:53:56", "end": "00:54:00", "text": "I finally told him that I couldn't"}, {"start": "00:53:58", "end": "00:54:02", "text": "escape my nightmare after all. I"}, {"start": "00:54:00", "end": "00:54:04", "text": "couldn't deny it anymore. My mental"}, {"start": "00:54:02", "end": "00:54:07", "text": "stability was slowly leaving me like"}, {"start": "00:54:04", "end": "00:54:09", "text": "sand running through fingers."}, {"start": "00:54:07", "end": "00:54:12", "text": "At the same time, I felt great relief"}, {"start": "00:54:09", "end": "00:54:13", "text": "while talking to Mr. Martin. It's not"}, {"start": "00:54:12", "end": "00:54:15", "text": "the same when you tell your family about"}, {"start": "00:54:13", "end": "00:54:17", "text": "your illness than when you tell it to"}, {"start": "00:54:15", "end": "00:54:20", "text": "the doctor. They wouldn't have an"}, {"start": "00:54:17", "end": "00:54:22", "text": "answer. The doctor would"}, {"start": "00:54:20", "end": "00:54:24", "text": "I made a mistake in judging Mr. Martin"}, {"start": "00:54:22", "end": "00:54:26", "text": "based on Mr. Be's behavior. They were"}, {"start": "00:54:24", "end": "00:54:29", "text": "totally different."}, {"start": "00:54:26", "end": "00:54:31", "text": "He turned out to be a very formal and"}, {"start": "00:54:29", "end": "00:54:34", "text": "serious person in the research of the"}, {"start": "00:54:31", "end": "00:54:37", "text": "UFO phenomenon. He only searches for the"}, {"start": "00:54:34", "end": "00:54:39", "text": "truth. He knew how to listen and"}, {"start": "00:54:37", "end": "00:54:40", "text": "understand my feelings regarding my"}, {"start": "00:54:39", "end": "00:54:42", "text": "experience."}, {"start": "00:54:40", "end": "00:54:45", "text": "He didn't speak of contradictory"}, {"start": "00:54:42", "end": "00:54:47", "text": "absurdities like his friend. He heard"}, {"start": "00:54:45", "end": "00:54:49", "text": "everything I had to say without"}, {"start": "00:54:47", "end": "00:54:50", "text": "interrupting me. After I had finished,"}, {"start": "00:54:49", "end": "00:54:54", "text": "he explained that he had studied various"}, {"start": "00:54:50", "end": "00:54:56", "text": "cases involving the lost time factor. He"}, {"start": "00:54:54", "end": "00:54:58", "text": "said not to worry, that when the time"}, {"start": "00:54:56", "end": "00:55:01", "text": "was right, I'd remember what happened"}, {"start": "00:54:58", "end": "00:55:04", "text": "during that apparent void. According to"}, {"start": "00:55:01", "end": "00:55:06", "text": "him, I was not crazy. There were"}, {"start": "00:55:04", "end": "00:55:07", "text": "hundreds of thousands of people in the"}, {"start": "00:55:06", "end": "00:55:09", "text": "world who had gone through the same"}, {"start": "00:55:07", "end": "00:55:12", "text": "thing. He said that in Puerto Rico"}, {"start": "00:55:09", "end": "00:55:14", "text": "alone, there were hundreds of cases. He"}, {"start": "00:55:12", "end": "00:55:16", "text": "assured me that if I was willing, he"}, {"start": "00:55:14", "end": "00:55:18", "text": "could put me in touch with some of these"}, {"start": "00:55:16", "end": "00:55:21", "text": "people. I told him that at the moment, I"}, {"start": "00:55:18", "end": "00:55:22", "text": "didn't feel prepared for that."}, {"start": "00:55:21", "end": "00:55:24", "text": "I asked him to please keep the"}, {"start": "00:55:22", "end": "00:55:26", "text": "information confidential. I didn't want"}, {"start": "00:55:24", "end": "00:55:30", "text": "the matter going public in his magazine"}, {"start": "00:55:26", "end": "00:55:32", "text": "or any other media. He agreed. I also"}, {"start": "00:55:30", "end": "00:55:34", "text": "explained the current situation with his"}, {"start": "00:55:32", "end": "00:55:36", "text": "friend and his harassing behavior. Mr."}, {"start": "00:55:34", "end": "00:55:38", "text": "Martin explained that he didn't really"}, {"start": "00:55:36", "end": "00:55:40", "text": "work for the magazine and wasn't even on"}, {"start": "00:55:38", "end": "00:55:41", "text": "the payroll. He was simply a"}, {"start": "00:55:40", "end": "00:55:43", "text": "collaborator and his job consisted"}, {"start": "00:55:41", "end": "00:55:46", "text": "merely of gathering information"}, {"start": "00:55:43", "end": "00:55:47", "text": "regarding the west side of Puerto Rico."}, {"start": "00:55:46", "end": "00:55:48", "text": "He was one of the many that helped"}, {"start": "00:55:47", "end": "00:55:50", "text": "getting in touch with the people who"}, {"start": "00:55:48", "end": "00:55:52", "text": "have had experiences related to the"}, {"start": "00:55:50", "end": "00:55:54", "text": "phenomenon. Either way, I still asked"}, {"start": "00:55:52", "end": "00:55:56", "text": "him if he could talk to Mr. B so that"}, {"start": "00:55:54", "end": "00:55:58", "text": "he'd quit following me around. He"}, {"start": "00:55:56", "end": "00:56:00", "text": "promised he would do so. We agreed to"}, {"start": "00:55:58", "end": "00:56:02", "text": "stay in touch, but I didn't give him my"}, {"start": "00:56:00", "end": "00:56:06", "text": "number. I told him I'd call if I wanted"}, {"start": "00:56:02", "end": "00:56:08", "text": "to talk. When he left, I felt the"}, {"start": "00:56:06", "end": "00:56:11", "text": "sensation that a great friendship had"}, {"start": "00:56:08", "end": "00:56:14", "text": "commenced. I'm sure Martin spoke to Mr."}, {"start": "00:56:11", "end": "00:56:17", "text": "B, but now he hassled me more than ever."}, {"start": "00:56:14", "end": "00:56:19", "text": "It bothered me to go to work, knowing"}, {"start": "00:56:17", "end": "00:56:21", "text": "that he might show up and try to get"}, {"start": "00:56:19", "end": "00:56:23", "text": "more information. He followed me"}, {"start": "00:56:21", "end": "00:56:25", "text": "everywhere. The supermarket, the beach,"}, {"start": "00:56:23", "end": "00:56:27", "text": "the car mechanic, through every street,"}, {"start": "00:56:25", "end": "00:56:31", "text": "and everywhere I went, he'd become a"}, {"start": "00:56:27", "end": "00:56:34", "text": "huge threatening shadow."}, {"start": "00:56:31", "end": "00:56:38", "text": "What's this guy's problem, Mr. B? What"}, {"start": "00:56:34", "end": "00:56:38", "text": "does B stand for? Huh?"}, {"start": "00:56:40", "end": "00:56:45", "text": "Bad guy. All right, it's all I got. I"}, {"start": "00:56:44", "end": "00:56:46", "text": "came to the conclusion that his"}, {"start": "00:56:45", "end": "00:56:49", "text": "obsession was based on the money he"}, {"start": "00:56:46", "end": "00:56:51", "text": "wanted to make off my pictures. I"}, {"start": "00:56:49", "end": "00:56:53", "text": "realized this after he started to talk"}, {"start": "00:56:51", "end": "00:56:55", "text": "about their worth. He had a thousand"}, {"start": "00:56:53", "end": "00:56:58", "text": "ideas for them. Every time he mentioned"}, {"start": "00:56:55", "end": "00:57:00", "text": "the potential gains, his eyes got wider."}, {"start": "00:56:58", "end": "00:57:02", "text": "He totally lost sight of the objective"}, {"start": "00:57:00", "end": "00:57:04", "text": "of Jorge Martin's investigation. I"}, {"start": "00:57:02", "end": "00:57:06", "text": "talked to the editor again and on"}, {"start": "00:57:04", "end": "00:57:08", "text": "multiple occasions after about his"}, {"start": "00:57:06", "end": "00:57:10", "text": "friend harassing and poor professional"}, {"start": "00:57:08", "end": "00:57:12", "text": "behavior."}, {"start": "00:57:10", "end": "00:57:14", "text": "I never told him about his friend's real"}, {"start": "00:57:12", "end": "00:57:16", "text": "objectives and the repeated mentions of"}, {"start": "00:57:14", "end": "00:57:18", "text": "the monetary value of the pictures after"}, {"start": "00:57:16", "end": "00:57:20", "text": "being analyzed by experts. My brother"}, {"start": "00:57:18", "end": "00:57:22", "text": "Charlie and I started to talk about the"}, {"start": "00:57:20", "end": "00:57:24", "text": "baby again. We talked about the fact"}, {"start": "00:57:22", "end": "00:57:26", "text": "that there were copies of my pictures"}, {"start": "00:57:24", "end": "00:57:29", "text": "going around already, but that what the"}, {"start": "00:57:26", "end": "00:57:31", "text": "CIA was after were the negatives. So"}, {"start": "00:57:29", "end": "00:57:33", "text": "when I told him that I needed to have"}, {"start": "00:57:31", "end": "00:57:35", "text": "the baby examined by doctors, he"}, {"start": "00:57:33", "end": "00:57:37", "text": "opposed. He reminded me of what happened"}, {"start": "00:57:35", "end": "00:57:40", "text": "to the people who possessed this sort of"}, {"start": "00:57:37", "end": "00:57:41", "text": "graphic evidence. I told him that Mr."}, {"start": "00:57:40", "end": "00:57:43", "text": "Martin was a very serious person and"}, {"start": "00:57:41", "end": "00:57:46", "text": "that he had promised to protect me in"}, {"start": "00:57:43", "end": "00:57:48", "text": "case anything happened. Also that I"}, {"start": "00:57:46", "end": "00:57:50", "text": "wouldn't hand over the baby without"}, {"start": "00:57:48", "end": "00:57:53", "text": "having everything on paper first. He"}, {"start": "00:57:50", "end": "00:57:54", "text": "said I should still think about it and"}, {"start": "00:57:53", "end": "00:57:57", "text": "also mentioned he felt that I should"}, {"start": "00:57:54", "end": "00:58:00", "text": "back out while there was still time. He"}, {"start": "00:57:57", "end": "00:58:01", "text": "reminded me of our grandmother's health"}, {"start": "00:58:00", "end": "00:58:04", "text": "and that she wouldn't survive another"}, {"start": "00:58:01", "end": "00:58:06", "text": "stressful event. The nightmares came"}, {"start": "00:58:04", "end": "00:58:08", "text": "back and even stronger."}, {"start": "00:58:06", "end": "00:58:10", "text": "Starting to talk about everything again"}, {"start": "00:58:08", "end": "00:58:12", "text": "brought them back. I again started to"}, {"start": "00:58:10", "end": "00:58:14", "text": "try and remember what was what had"}, {"start": "00:58:12", "end": "00:58:16", "text": "happened during that lost time. I was"}, {"start": "00:58:14", "end": "00:58:20", "text": "always distracted at work and on top of"}, {"start": "00:58:16", "end": "00:58:22", "text": "that had other new problems. Though Mr."}, {"start": "00:58:20", "end": "00:58:23", "text": "Martin had kept his word regarding the"}, {"start": "00:58:22", "end": "00:58:26", "text": "confidentiality of the whole matter, it"}, {"start": "00:58:23", "end": "00:58:28", "text": "was not the case with Mr. B. We had"}, {"start": "00:58:26", "end": "00:58:30", "text": "agreed that if the case was mentioned at"}, {"start": "00:58:28", "end": "00:58:32", "text": "any time, my identity would not be"}, {"start": "00:58:30", "end": "00:58:34", "text": "revealed."}, {"start": "00:58:32", "end": "00:58:36", "text": "It could be discussed and analyzed. Yet"}, {"start": "00:58:34", "end": "00:58:37", "text": "no information regarding my identity,"}, {"start": "00:58:36", "end": "00:58:40", "text": "place of work, or home would be"}, {"start": "00:58:37", "end": "00:58:41", "text": "provided. There were people who came to"}, {"start": "00:58:40", "end": "00:58:44", "text": "the Tamarindo asking questions and"}, {"start": "00:58:41", "end": "00:58:46", "text": "commenting on matters I hadn't discussed"}, {"start": "00:58:44", "end": "00:58:48", "text": "with the general public. When I asked"}, {"start": "00:58:46", "end": "00:58:49", "text": "these people where they lived, the"}, {"start": "00:58:48", "end": "00:58:53", "text": "majority said they lived in the same"}, {"start": "00:58:49", "end": "00:58:55", "text": "neighborhood as Mr. B. This wasn't just"}, {"start": "00:58:53", "end": "00:58:57", "text": "a coincidence."}, {"start": "00:58:55", "end": "00:59:00", "text": "Mr. B started to bring different people"}, {"start": "00:58:57", "end": "00:59:01", "text": "to my home to meet me. Word got out and"}, {"start": "00:59:00", "end": "00:59:04", "text": "people started to park outside my home"}, {"start": "00:59:01", "end": "00:59:07", "text": "and sit on their cars to watch the sky"}, {"start": "00:59:04", "end": "00:59:09", "text": "and our house. This was intolerable."}, {"start": "00:59:07", "end": "00:59:11", "text": "If I went out for any reason whatsoever,"}, {"start": "00:59:09", "end": "00:59:13", "text": "they followed me in their car. They"}, {"start": "00:59:11", "end": "00:59:14", "text": "hoped something similar to what had"}, {"start": "00:59:13", "end": "00:59:17", "text": "happened to me in 1988 would repeat"}, {"start": "00:59:14", "end": "00:59:19", "text": "itself. And if it did, they wanted to be"}, {"start": "00:59:17", "end": "00:59:21", "text": "there and maybe even star in the whole"}, {"start": "00:59:19", "end": "00:59:23", "text": "ordeal."}, {"start": "00:59:21", "end": "00:59:25", "text": "My grandmother was really upset with all"}, {"start": "00:59:23", "end": "00:59:28", "text": "this. And I didn't tell my other aunts"}, {"start": "00:59:25", "end": "00:59:31", "text": "and uncles cuz they had told me to stay"}, {"start": "00:59:28", "end": "00:59:33", "text": "away from the whole UFO matter."}, {"start": "00:59:31", "end": "00:59:35", "text": "Because of the nightmares and all the"}, {"start": "00:59:33", "end": "00:59:37", "text": "people now around the house, I decided"}, {"start": "00:59:35", "end": "00:59:39", "text": "to move. I didn't want to cause any more"}, {"start": "00:59:37", "end": "00:59:40", "text": "trouble to my family. Thought of one of"}, {"start": "00:59:39", "end": "00:59:43", "text": "those curious people climbing onto our"}, {"start": "00:59:40", "end": "00:59:46", "text": "balcony and doing something crazy. Kept"}, {"start": "00:59:43", "end": "00:59:47", "text": "my grandmother up all night."}, {"start": "00:59:46", "end": "00:59:50", "text": "When she heard me scream in the middle"}, {"start": "00:59:47", "end": "00:59:53", "text": "of the night, she'd think someone had"}, {"start": "00:59:50", "end": "00:59:55", "text": "broken into the house and attacked me."}, {"start": "00:59:53", "end": "00:59:57", "text": "I immediately moved into a small room in"}, {"start": "00:59:55", "end": "00:59:59", "text": "the center of town. It was so small you"}, {"start": "00:59:57", "end": "01:00:01", "text": "could barely walk amongst my belongings."}, {"start": "00:59:59", "end": "01:00:05", "text": "My family got to sleep again and the"}, {"start": "01:00:01", "end": "01:00:08", "text": "people left. I lied to mama. I told her"}, {"start": "01:00:05", "end": "01:00:10", "text": "my nightmares had stopped."}, {"start": "01:00:08", "end": "01:00:12", "text": "I'd sleep at night like a trapped animal"}, {"start": "01:00:10", "end": "01:00:15", "text": "in that little room."}, {"start": "01:00:12", "end": "01:00:19", "text": "I was walking in my uniform, a dark"}, {"start": "01:00:15", "end": "01:00:22", "text": "road, big black eyes that I ran and ran"}, {"start": "01:00:19", "end": "01:00:24", "text": "and ran."}, {"start": "01:00:22", "end": "01:00:27", "text": "I never knew if my neighbors heard me"}, {"start": "01:00:24", "end": "01:00:28", "text": "scream at night. How could I know? I"}, {"start": "01:00:27", "end": "01:00:31", "text": "wish the nightmares would stop so that I"}, {"start": "01:00:28", "end": "01:00:32", "text": "can go back to mama's house. I hope that"}, {"start": "01:00:31", "end": "01:00:34", "text": "one day I could leave behind those"}, {"start": "01:00:32", "end": "01:00:37", "text": "horrible nightmares."}, {"start": "01:00:34", "end": "01:00:39", "text": "I wished that the images of beings of"}, {"start": "01:00:37", "end": "01:00:42", "text": "enormous heads chasing me down a dark,"}, {"start": "01:00:39", "end": "01:00:47", "text": "misty road and of a houseboat swallowed"}, {"start": "01:00:42", "end": "01:00:49", "text": "by a violent ocean would leave me."}, {"start": "01:00:47", "end": "01:00:51", "text": "I started to feel like I was losing my"}, {"start": "01:00:49", "end": "01:00:52", "text": "mind, but I didn't know how to go up to"}, {"start": "01:00:51", "end": "01:00:54", "text": "a doctor and tell him that I needed"}, {"start": "01:00:52", "end": "01:00:56", "text": "pills because I dreamt about"}, {"start": "01:00:54", "end": "01:00:58", "text": "extraterrestrial beings."}, {"start": "01:00:56", "end": "01:01:01", "text": "I think that the doctor would send me to"}, {"start": "01:00:58", "end": "01:01:03", "text": "a psychiatrist and that he in turn would"}, {"start": "01:01:01", "end": "01:01:05", "text": "send me to a mental institution."}, {"start": "01:01:03", "end": "01:01:07", "text": "I honestly think that in some of these"}, {"start": "01:01:05", "end": "01:01:09", "text": "places there might be people who have"}, {"start": "01:01:07", "end": "01:01:12", "text": "had these experiences, yet no one"}, {"start": "01:01:09", "end": "01:01:14", "text": "believes them and thinks they're crazy."}, {"start": "01:01:12", "end": "01:01:17", "text": "This was another one of my fears that"}, {"start": "01:01:14", "end": "01:01:20", "text": "something like this would happen to me."}, {"start": "01:01:17", "end": "01:01:21", "text": "I didn't get a moment's peace at work."}, {"start": "01:01:20", "end": "01:01:23", "text": "To the people that approached me because"}, {"start": "01:01:21", "end": "01:01:26", "text": "of the information provided by Mr. B, I"}, {"start": "01:01:23", "end": "01:01:29", "text": "said that it wasn't true and and I told"}, {"start": "01:01:26", "end": "01:01:31", "text": "them to leave me be. I felt my head was"}, {"start": "01:01:29", "end": "01:01:32", "text": "going to explode."}, {"start": "01:01:31", "end": "01:01:35", "text": "jumped like a rabbit at the least bit of"}, {"start": "01:01:32", "end": "01:01:37", "text": "noise. I yearned those days that I would"}, {"start": "01:01:35", "end": "01:01:39", "text": "peacefully lay in my hammock at the"}, {"start": "01:01:37", "end": "01:01:40", "text": "Tamarindo."}, {"start": "01:01:39", "end": "01:01:42", "text": "If I ever regretted something, it was"}, {"start": "01:01:40", "end": "01:01:45", "text": "agreeing with Mr. B to meet with the"}, {"start": "01:01:42", "end": "01:01:49", "text": "editor. After giving it much thought, I"}, {"start": "01:01:45", "end": "01:01:51", "text": "gave Mr. Martin some of the negatives."}, {"start": "01:01:49", "end": "01:01:54", "text": "My brother Charlie had sent them to me"}, {"start": "01:01:51", "end": "01:01:55", "text": "the same way I had. The computer"}, {"start": "01:01:54", "end": "01:01:58", "text": "analysis of the negatives didn't"}, {"start": "01:01:55", "end": "01:02:00", "text": "surprise. The pictures were definitively"}, {"start": "01:01:58", "end": "01:02:02", "text": "real."}, {"start": "01:02:00", "end": "01:02:04", "text": "There were no tricks of any kind. I was"}, {"start": "01:02:02", "end": "01:02:07", "text": "given back my negatives and these were"}, {"start": "01:02:04", "end": "01:02:08", "text": "hidden."}, {"start": "01:02:07", "end": "01:02:10", "text": "Mr. Martin introduced me to several"}, {"start": "01:02:08", "end": "01:02:12", "text": "people who had similar experiences to"}, {"start": "01:02:10", "end": "01:02:14", "text": "mine. Though at first I didn't want to"}, {"start": "01:02:12", "end": "01:02:16", "text": "meet them, I later thought that this"}, {"start": "01:02:14", "end": "01:02:18", "text": "might be helpful with my nightmares. It"}, {"start": "01:02:16", "end": "01:02:21", "text": "actually did help because now I didn't"}, {"start": "01:02:18", "end": "01:02:23", "text": "feel so alone. But it wasn't until I met"}, {"start": "01:02:21", "end": "01:02:25", "text": "someone in particular that I really got"}, {"start": "01:02:23", "end": "01:02:27", "text": "better."}, {"start": "01:02:25", "end": "01:02:29", "text": "In regards to the pictures and my"}, {"start": "01:02:27", "end": "01:02:31", "text": "experience, Mr. Martin recommended I go"}, {"start": "01:02:29", "end": "01:02:34", "text": "public with it through the various media"}, {"start": "01:02:31", "end": "01:02:36", "text": "and forms of communication. Mr. B also I"}, {"start": "01:02:34", "end": "01:02:39", "text": "insisted I do so, but I still wasn't"}, {"start": "01:02:36", "end": "01:02:41", "text": "prepared for that."}, {"start": "01:02:39", "end": "01:02:42", "text": "They told me that my evidence without a"}, {"start": "01:02:41", "end": "01:02:44", "text": "doubt demonstrated that something was"}, {"start": "01:02:42", "end": "01:02:47", "text": "going on and that the governments were"}, {"start": "01:02:44", "end": "01:02:48", "text": "covering it up. They also said there was"}, {"start": "01:02:47", "end": "01:02:50", "text": "no reason for me to care about people"}, {"start": "01:02:48", "end": "01:02:53", "text": "calling me a liar or crazy because I had"}, {"start": "01:02:50", "end": "01:02:56", "text": "the results of photographic analysis."}, {"start": "01:02:53", "end": "01:02:58", "text": "They added that humanity had a right to"}, {"start": "01:02:56", "end": "01:03:01", "text": "know these things. I replied that their"}, {"start": "01:02:58", "end": "01:03:04", "text": "reasons were perfectly valid, but that I"}, {"start": "01:03:01", "end": "01:03:06", "text": "didn't feel ready and that the public"}, {"start": "01:03:04", "end": "01:03:07", "text": "reaction worried me. We had to think"}, {"start": "01:03:06", "end": "01:03:10", "text": "about how traumatic this information"}, {"start": "01:03:07", "end": "01:03:11", "text": "could be to a lot of people. I didn't"}, {"start": "01:03:10", "end": "01:03:13", "text": "want to be responsible for someone"}, {"start": "01:03:11", "end": "01:03:16", "text": "else's nightmares."}, {"start": "01:03:13", "end": "01:03:19", "text": "It wasn't the right time. Mr. Martin"}, {"start": "01:03:16", "end": "01:03:20", "text": "understood my point of view, but the"}, {"start": "01:03:19", "end": "01:03:22", "text": "other one just complained about the"}, {"start": "01:03:20", "end": "01:03:25", "text": "money he was not going to make off my"}, {"start": "01:03:22", "end": "01:03:26", "text": "pictures. After investigating my case"}, {"start": "01:03:25", "end": "01:03:29", "text": "for more than a year and having all the"}, {"start": "01:03:26", "end": "01:03:34", "text": "evidence, he kept his word and remained"}, {"start": "01:03:29", "end": "01:03:34", "text": "silent. He didn't go public."}, {"start": "01:03:36", "end": "01:03:41", "text": "Okay. I have also done some research"}, {"start": "01:03:38", "end": "01:03:44", "text": "subsequently and eventually there was an"}, {"start": "01:03:41", "end": "01:03:46", "text": "article that came out written by uh"}, {"start": "01:03:44", "end": "01:03:50", "text": "Jorge Martin. I will try to find that"}, {"start": "01:03:46", "end": "01:03:55", "text": "and link it below if I have found it."}, {"start": "01:03:50", "end": "01:03:57", "text": "But alas, we do not get any resolve for"}, {"start": "01:03:55", "end": "01:04:00", "text": "the alleged pictures of the gentleman"}, {"start": "01:03:57", "end": "01:04:03", "text": "with the black hair or the grays. Really"}, {"start": "01:04:00", "end": "01:04:04", "text": "interesting. Makes me wonder,"}, {"start": "01:04:03", "end": "01:04:06", "text": "you know, because there is a key word"}, {"start": "01:04:04", "end": "01:04:08", "text": "there. When Charlie, his brother in"}, {"start": "01:04:06", "end": "01:04:11", "text": "Japan, sent the photos, he said he sent"}, {"start": "01:04:08", "end": "01:04:13", "text": "me some negatives. Now, those negatives"}, {"start": "01:04:11", "end": "01:04:15", "text": "that were sent by Charlie are probably"}, {"start": "01:04:13", "end": "01:04:18", "text": "the ones we are looking at now, or"}, {"start": "01:04:15", "end": "01:04:20", "text": "probably the photos we're looking at."}, {"start": "01:04:18", "end": "01:04:23", "text": "And the ones that he didn't send might"}, {"start": "01:04:20", "end": "01:04:27", "text": "still be in a safety deposit box"}, {"start": "01:04:23", "end": "01:04:27", "text": "somewhere in Japan with a hidden key."}, {"start": "01:04:29", "end": "01:04:34", "text": "I mean, this is like, imagine getting"}, {"start": "01:04:32", "end": "01:04:39", "text": "your hand on those photos."}, {"start": "01:04:34", "end": "01:04:42", "text": "I just want to see them, you know?"}, {"start": "01:04:39", "end": "01:04:44", "text": "I understand his reluctance,"}, {"start": "01:04:42", "end": "01:04:48", "text": "but I also don't think that at the time"}, {"start": "01:04:44", "end": "01:04:51", "text": "when he wrote this versus I think cuz he"}, {"start": "01:04:48", "end": "01:04:54", "text": "wrote I think this was 2011, but I think"}, {"start": "01:04:51", "end": "01:04:57", "text": "a lot has happened in the in in those 15"}, {"start": "01:04:54", "end": "01:04:59", "text": "years to where now"}, {"start": "01:04:57", "end": "01:05:01", "text": "we might be ready for something like"}, {"start": "01:04:59", "end": "01:05:03", "text": "that, you know, or at least because even"}, {"start": "01:05:01", "end": "01:05:06", "text": "even that photo, even the negatives of a"}, {"start": "01:05:03", "end": "01:05:08", "text": "gray alien wouldn't be disclosure. Some"}, {"start": "01:05:06", "end": "01:05:10", "text": "people would still"}, {"start": "01:05:08", "end": "01:05:13", "text": "argue against it. They would still say"}, {"start": "01:05:10", "end": "01:05:16", "text": "they're fake. It's AI. It was a prop. It"}, {"start": "01:05:13", "end": "01:05:19", "text": "was a puppet. What have you. But for"}, {"start": "01:05:16", "end": "01:05:21", "text": "those of us who are on this journey"}, {"start": "01:05:19", "end": "01:05:23", "text": "seeking the truth,"}, {"start": "01:05:21", "end": "01:05:26", "text": "I mean, that would that would be that"}, {"start": "01:05:23", "end": "01:05:30", "text": "would be a nice"}, {"start": "01:05:26", "end": "01:05:33", "text": "bit of confirmation. But alas, I also"}, {"start": "01:05:30", "end": "01:05:36", "text": "got to respect him for doing what he did"}, {"start": "01:05:33", "end": "01:05:38", "text": "in the manner that he did it. I think,"}, {"start": "01:05:36", "end": "01:05:40", "text": "you know, it it it makes me admire this"}, {"start": "01:05:38", "end": "01:05:44", "text": "character"}, {"start": "01:05:40", "end": "01:05:46", "text": "as uh he truly isn't out to seek any"}, {"start": "01:05:44", "end": "01:05:48", "text": "type of fame. Obviously living off the"}, {"start": "01:05:46", "end": "01:05:50", "text": "grid right now and kind of, you know, he"}, {"start": "01:05:48", "end": "01:05:52", "text": "gave us pictures."}, {"start": "01:05:50", "end": "01:05:54", "text": "What more do you want? He gave us the"}, {"start": "01:05:52", "end": "01:05:56", "text": "story. He gave us pictures. Here you go."}, {"start": "01:05:54", "end": "01:05:59", "text": "Have at it. Have a field day now. Leave"}, {"start": "01:05:56", "end": "01:06:02", "text": "me alone. And uh I got to respect that."}, {"start": "01:05:59", "end": "01:06:04", "text": "So yeah, shout out to Amorei Rivera if"}, {"start": "01:06:02", "end": "01:06:06", "text": "you're watching this. Uh big fan. and uh"}, {"start": "01:06:04", "end": "01:06:08", "text": "would love to have a conversation with"}, {"start": "01:06:06", "end": "01:06:12", "text": "you even off air. Would be a real"}, {"start": "01:06:08", "end": "01:06:14", "text": "pleasure. Uh folks,"}, {"start": "01:06:12", "end": "01:06:17", "text": "what do you I'd love to hear your"}, {"start": "01:06:14", "end": "01:06:20", "text": "thoughts on this little story. Now, I"}, {"start": "01:06:17", "end": "01:06:22", "text": "know that there probably is more. There"}, {"start": "01:06:20", "end": "01:06:24", "text": "definitely is more to the book. I wonder"}, {"start": "01:06:22", "end": "01:06:26", "text": "myself if eventually they do end up"}, {"start": "01:06:24", "end": "01:06:28", "text": "talking about the giant triangular craft"}, {"start": "01:06:26", "end": "01:06:32", "text": "sighting. I wonder who this other"}, {"start": "01:06:28", "end": "01:06:35", "text": "positive being in his life will be. I"}, {"start": "01:06:32", "end": "01:06:38", "text": "wonder how he ends up unlocking these"}, {"start": "01:06:35", "end": "01:06:39", "text": "memories because as of, you know, as far"}, {"start": "01:06:38", "end": "01:06:41", "text": "as we are in the story, as far as I"}, {"start": "01:06:39", "end": "01:06:44", "text": "know, these memories haven't come back"}, {"start": "01:06:41", "end": "01:06:46", "text": "yet. He hasn't recalled the uh"}, {"start": "01:06:44", "end": "01:06:49", "text": "projections that he was given or"}, {"start": "01:06:46", "end": "01:06:52", "text": "anything else. And so, I wonder if that"}, {"start": "01:06:49", "end": "01:06:54", "text": "comes through hypnotherapy or through"}, {"start": "01:06:52", "end": "01:06:56", "text": "dreams or through just an epiphany, an"}, {"start": "01:06:54", "end": "01:06:58", "text": "awakening state. I'm curious about it"}, {"start": "01:06:56", "end": "01:06:59", "text": "and I will continue to read it, but I"}, {"start": "01:06:58", "end": "01:07:01", "text": "don't know if I'll do that on this"}, {"start": "01:06:59", "end": "01:07:04", "text": "channel."}, {"start": "01:07:01", "end": "01:07:07", "text": "Um, the only way that I can know, this"}, {"start": "01:07:04", "end": "01:07:08", "text": "is part three, so we can we can ask the"}, {"start": "01:07:07", "end": "01:07:11", "text": "audience."}, {"start": "01:07:08", "end": "01:07:15", "text": "Um, let's say if this if this video"}, {"start": "01:07:11", "end": "01:07:19", "text": "reaches 15,000 likes,"}, {"start": "01:07:15", "end": "01:07:21", "text": "then I'll do a part four."}, {"start": "01:07:19", "end": "01:07:23", "text": "Um, but if not, then I'll take it as as"}, {"start": "01:07:21", "end": "01:07:26", "text": "as there aren't that many people who"}, {"start": "01:07:23", "end": "01:07:28", "text": "made it this far into the video who want"}, {"start": "01:07:26", "end": "01:07:31", "text": "to see it, you know, go further."}, {"start": "01:07:28", "end": "01:07:33", "text": "Um, but I would I wouldn't mind. Let me"}, {"start": "01:07:31", "end": "01:07:34", "text": "know if you're interested. I'm certainly"}, {"start": "01:07:33", "end": "01:07:37", "text": "going to continue reading this story on"}, {"start": "01:07:34", "end": "01:07:40", "text": "my own. Um, and I encourage you to do"}, {"start": "01:07:37", "end": "01:07:42", "text": "the same. But if you want, you know, to"}, {"start": "01:07:40", "end": "01:07:44", "text": "have it read here on the channel, just"}, {"start": "01:07:42", "end": "01:07:46", "text": "let me know."}, {"start": "01:07:44", "end": "01:07:47", "text": "Folks, once again, I'm going to just"}, {"start": "01:07:46", "end": "01:07:50", "text": "remind you, check out it'sprobably"}, {"start": "01:07:47", "end": "01:07:52", "text": "nothing.com. I look forward to seeing"}, {"start": "01:07:50", "end": "01:07:55", "text": "you, meeting you in person. The VIP"}, {"start": "01:07:52", "end": "01:07:56", "text": "tickets are almost sold out. Those go"}, {"start": "01:07:55", "end": "01:07:58", "text": "pretty fast, so you want to check those"}, {"start": "01:07:56", "end": "01:08:00", "text": "out. I know you get a challenge coin,"}, {"start": "01:07:58", "end": "01:08:02", "text": "you get a meet and greet, you get a"}, {"start": "01:08:00", "end": "01:08:04", "text": "poster. It's a really cool experience"}, {"start": "01:08:02", "end": "01:08:05", "text": "and you get a good seat to boot. So,"}, {"start": "01:08:04", "end": "01:08:09", "text": "have a look at that. Check out"}, {"start": "01:08:05", "end": "01:08:10", "text": "Area52.shop where we are currently, you"}, {"start": "01:08:09", "end": "01:08:12", "text": "know, stocking up on all sorts of stuff."}, {"start": "01:08:10", "end": "01:08:15", "text": "We got the invisible college drop. We"}, {"start": "01:08:12", "end": "01:08:17", "text": "got the majestic cigarette like incense"}, {"start": "01:08:15", "end": "01:08:19", "text": "that you can, you know, burn up and have"}, {"start": "01:08:17", "end": "01:08:21", "text": "your home smelling like good vibes and"}, {"start": "01:08:19", "end": "01:08:22", "text": "sage. Uh, we got all sorts of stuff"}, {"start": "01:08:21", "end": "01:08:24", "text": "happening there as well. Thank you so"}, {"start": "01:08:22", "end": "01:08:28", "text": "much for watching. We'll see you on the"}, {"start": "01:08:24", "end": "01:08:28", "text": "next video. Peace and love. Heat. Heat."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "the skiff. Look at this place, man."}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "So, there we go. I get a package. Now,"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "this is from the person who is head of"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "cyber security at Los Alamos National"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "Laboratory."}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:19", "text": ">> Local residents should be checked for"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "evidence that they are being"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "symbiotically manipulated by surviving"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "aliens."}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "I trust that that is"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "a memo"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "that was never supposed to be in public"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "domain."}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:37", "text": ">> So, this is not the only piece of paper"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "that was"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:41", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:41", "text": ">> Okay. There's a whole other set of files"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "attached to that."}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:44", "text": ">> Allegedly."}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:47", "text": ">> Is it stressful?"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:49", "text": ">> Uh, what? My life."}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "There's a pattern of people"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "disappearing."}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:01:00", "text": ">> Something bad happened to him. Oh yeah."}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "If you mean by being murdered bad. Yes."}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "I would love that smoking gun evidence"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "which does exist. I have seen it. So"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "have other people that you know."}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "And I'm not talking about one piece of"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "footage. Talking about a lot of footage."}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "But it is not mine to share."}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:19", "text": ">> What does it feature? Does it feature a"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "disc, a tic tac, a tube?"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:22", "text": ">> I'm talking about a lot of different"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "footage. Tell me."}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:26", "text": ">> Well, yeah, sure. There are there's"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "triangles, there's tic tacs, there's"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "ovals, there's spheres"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:30", "text": ">> and that you've seen."}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:32", "text": ">> Yes. So, I think I have a little fear in"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "me right now. So, I'm like trying to"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "speak thoughtfully and that's hard for"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "me sometimes."}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "But there are consequences. And"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "sometimes the consequence is just the"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "pain you feel that the crushing weight"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "of what you know to be true and can't"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "say is going to destroy and snap your"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "legs and destroy your humanity. And I've"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "seen that pain in people's eyes. And"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "it's not a way to live, man."}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:07", "text": ">> All right. So in 2008 on the 4th of July"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "I was on a boat with my father who's in"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "the Federal Aviation Administration,"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "two retired commercial pilots and a"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "current commercial pilot and off to our"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "right is a baseball field and the field"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "lights are on. From these three lights,"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "we saw three cubes appear and they were"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "rotating and then they just vanished"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "after about 20 seconds. I would say it"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "was almost like they came out of the"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "lights and everybody in the boats that"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "we were both tied to and the boats all"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "around us, we all freaked out. Everybody"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "saw this. It was incredible."}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "And ever since then, I have been"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "obsessed with the phenomena."}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "Ramsay"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:12", "text": ">> Corbell"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:13", "text": ">> magician"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:14", "text": ">> investigator"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:16", "text": ">> artist"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:17", "text": ">> artist"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:18", "text": ">> smart guy"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:19", "text": ">> same"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:21", "text": ">> intuitive"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:22", "text": ">> yeah I mean I could say a lot of the"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "same things about you sir"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:25", "text": ">> strong"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:28", "text": ">> yeah good at jiu-jitsu"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:31", "text": ">> I was really bad but I mean I I you you"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "do something 10,000 times more than"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "someone else"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:35", "text": ">> and you got a shot"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:36", "text": ">> it's the definition of a magician"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:39", "text": ">> is what"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:41", "text": ">> uh doing something"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "an unreasonable"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "putting an unreasonable amount of time"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "into something."}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:47", "text": ">> Unreasonable to who?"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:48", "text": ">> To the common person."}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:49", "text": ">> Who's that?"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:51", "text": ">> Uh, whoever you're trying to fool"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:53", "text": ">> or just the people not doing it."}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:55", "text": ">> Yeah, exactly. Same. One and the same."}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:57", "text": ">> Do you try to fool people?"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:58", "text": ">> Yeah, of course. With magic. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "absolutely. I mean, no, I think I think"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "fooling them is a part of the is one of"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "the ingredients in creating wonder. Um,"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "but you don't always necessarily have to"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "fool people. In fact, the best magic"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "tricks is when people fool themselves."}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "And the same could be said for a scop,"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "you know."}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:23", "text": ">> Is your aim to create wonder"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:25", "text": ">> um with magic"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:28", "text": ">> cuz you said that m Okay. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:30", "text": ">> Right. Magic ma magic with a with a G"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:31", "text": ">> with with a C. With a G and a C."}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:32", "text": ">> With a G and a C. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:34", "text": ">> How do you turn this down? You're so"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "loud in my head, Ramsey. For a long"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "time, you've been loud in my head. And I"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "don't. But I can turn you down."}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:40", "text": ">> You're too Let me know if this is Hold"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "on. I'm going to do this. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:43", "text": ">> Control. I want to have control of"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "turning you up or down."}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:45", "text": ">> So this is me."}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:45", "text": ">> And this is me."}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:46", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:48", "text": ">> Go again. Talk."}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:49", "text": ">> One, two, one, two, one, two. One, two,"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "one, two."}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:50", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:51", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:52", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. You're loud, [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "Right here."}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:56", "text": ">> Right there's good."}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:57", "text": ">> Ooh, that's like saucy."}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "I mean, it's all good."}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:02", "text": ">> Yeah. I like I like the headphones cuz"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "they they tend to lock you in. Um,"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "there's an immersion and I didn't really"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "get it before and I was like, it's more"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "freeing without headphones. But then the"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "headphones makes it so that you're kind"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "It's like kind of like blinders for your"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "ears where you're like, \"This is where"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "I'm at. I'm not out there.\""}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:19", "text": ">> Blinders for your ears. This is where"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "I'm at. Yeah. Yeah. I I now am"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "experiencing that."}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:24", "text": ">> Yeah. Now you're aware of it."}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:24", "text": ">> Well, now I'm here."}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:25", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:28", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:30", "text": ">> Thanks for coming to the quote unquote"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "skiff. I know you've I know you've been"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "in a real skiff"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "and uh tell me the difference between a"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "skiff. I never as someone who's never"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "set foot in a skiff. What What is it? Is"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "it empty?"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:45", "text": ">> Let's first be honest with everybody."}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:48", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:49", "text": ">> You took me into a snow globe."}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:50", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:52", "text": ">> Okay. Just want to make sure we're"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "honest with everybody."}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:54", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:55", "text": ">> And then you did bring me into this"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "skiff fact."}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:56", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:05:57", "text": ">> Okay, cool."}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:05:58", "text": ">> Okay. Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:00", "text": ">> So, your question was, \"What's the"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "difference of a real skiff?\" Right. Cuz"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "usually people don't have to be in"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "skiff."}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:04", "text": ">> And Yeah. And they don't bring their"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "phones in."}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:06", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:10", "text": ">> It's a big one, I think."}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:11", "text": ">> Oh, yeah. I wish I did."}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:13", "text": ">> Yeah. They probably check your pockets"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "though before coming in, huh?"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:17", "text": ">> Um, no. I mean, you go through in some"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "of them there's an honor system. In some"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "of them there are metal detectors and in"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "some of them there's more procedures"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "done. But typically, if you're being"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "brought into a skiff, they already know"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "that you're not going to be breaking the"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "rules."}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:35", "text": ">> They assume."}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:37", "text": ">> No, they make sure to know. I mean, I I"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "can only speak from my own experience."}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "My own experience is"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:44", "text": ">> I would I was never in a skiff"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "where all variables that were"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "controllable were not controlled, right,"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:52", "text": ">> on both ends, right? And there's a lot"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "of skiffs that I never went into. Was it"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "stressful?"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:56", "text": ">> Uh, what? My life?"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:57", "text": ">> No,"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:06:59", "text": ">> I think you answered I think you just"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "answered that question. But no, get"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "getting into a skiff like like that"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "moment where you're like crossing the"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "threshold. You know, you're in this"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "sensitive compartmentalized information"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "facility. It's, you know, you hear about"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "the things that go on in a skiff and the"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "things that are talked about are"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "obviously of the most sensitive nature."}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "Do you feel that sort of reverence as"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "you cross a threshold into one of these"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "places? Do you feel anxiety or or is"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "there like a sense of relief or release"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "that there's no nothing recording"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "anything you're saying? Is there"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:32", "text": ">> Well, that's not always true that"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "there's nothing recording what you're"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "saying inside of a skiff. That's not"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "always true, first of all. Um, now"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "you're asking me a personal question."}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "And my personal feelings, if I can be"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "completely honest now, which I can be,"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "is that my my personal feeling is I've"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "never walked into a skiff once invited"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "that I didn't feel 100%"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "comfortable. I wouldn't. In fact, I"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "didn't."}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:05", "text": ">> You've refused to enter a skiff?"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:07", "text": ">> Yes, sir. George Knap and I refused to"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "go into a skiff. This was mentioned in"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "Sleeping Dog."}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:12", "text": ">> Foxy, I don't have a memory for it"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "because I just quickly you're this way"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "before everybody processed anything."}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:19", "text": ">> Well, I'll refresh your memory. Um, you"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "you were invited into a skiff and then"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "you were advised by your lawyer not to"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "go because your lawyer's like, \"If you"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "go in there and you say this stuff, they"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "might have a right to classify it.\""}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:32", "text": ">> I just made an assumption."}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:34", "text": ">> I did. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:37", "text": ">> What was my assumption? Nothing I could"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "have said could have been classified."}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:39", "text": ">> Okay,"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:41", "text": ">> I'll explain it to you."}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:43", "text": ">> But but the lawyer in the movie you said"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "that the lawyer that was one of the"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "things he warned you about was that they"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "can just basically uh classify whatever"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "is said in there and that"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:52", "text": ">> that way you're never allowed to report"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "on it."}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:56", "text": ">> Okay. I'm not trying to be micious. I"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "just, you know, have to be very specific"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "cuz now you're asking my brain to"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "unravel something which I haven't really"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "seen"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:04", "text": ">> in a way in a big way. So let's go"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "there. Let's go into this one little"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "tiny hair and let's split it. Okay. Um,"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "I was supposed to testify in front of"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "the American public."}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "My caveat to that or condition was that"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "the American public gets to see"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "some of what I've seen and some of what"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "George has seen. a tiny fraction"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "footage"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:46", "text": ">> footage that is absolutely nonharming to"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "American national security and five eyes"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "national security. The difference would"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "be"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "no satellite footage"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "because satellite capability is a like a"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "submarine is is is really classified its"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "whereabouts and and the capability of"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "satellite if you look at what's out"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "there in the natural world is is very"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "limited like extremely limited. So no"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "satellite footage if it had ever passed"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "in front of my eyes that's not something"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "that is safe. Additionally, let's say"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "there's two UFOs"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:23", "text": ">> that swarm from the left of camera"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "towards the right kind of make a half"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "loop around a Russian asset. But that"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "Russian asset not just being satellite"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "or whatever actually it was low visual."}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "So not not satellite but that asset they"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "didn't know that we were and could see"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "them. So that's a no-go because"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:42", "text": ">> I see. Yeah. Cuz now they're aware of"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "you know whatever drone or whatever"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "satellites looking at them. So it so"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "strategic surprise is one of the"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "greatest um threats that we participate"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "with dealing with on a daily basis as as"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "a nation and as five eyes. So when you"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "have the ability to see and people don't"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "think you can that would be considered"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "national security. Okay."}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:05", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:06", "text": ">> What I was intending to do and I guess"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "now I've said it a little bit in the"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "movie because a movie remember is a"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "compressed amount of time. So you get"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "like the sentence that means the"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "paragraph. So what I was talking about"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "is I was to and I went through a lengthy"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "month many months process of this game"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "of cat and mouse of like okay if I had"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "seen anything that the American public"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "should seem specifically 12 assets I"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "figure were you know"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:33", "text": ">> okay for people to see you know no one"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "piece of footage is going to prove"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "everything to everybody um or even"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "anything to anybody but you got to take"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "your shot right"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:43", "text": ">> so and there's no reason why UFOs should"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "be the existence of UFOs should not be"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "classified. It nothing about that should"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "be classified."}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:49", "text": ">> None that I can think of."}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:51", "text": ">> Now when you get into the implications"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "and the technology 100% like you know"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "nuclear science exists but can't"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:58", "text": ">> give you the codes on how to right."}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:02", "text": ">> So George Knap and I were doing this"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "dance of like well so I personally will"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "testify but what I have to say is not"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "important. So saying is not important"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "for me. It is giving and showing 12"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "assets. Now, the thing is, and here's"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "the the dance. How do you get into a"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "locked room? And you're a puzzle man, so"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "maybe you figure this out. I couldn't."}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "How do you get into a locked room with"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "no electronics"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "and show what you think as a journalist?"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "Because you don't got to ask permission"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "as a journalist."}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "You don't. But you can do a lot of harm,"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "not just to yourself, to other people,"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "to our nation, that kind of thing. So,"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "let's just pretend. How do you get into"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "that locked room? And how do you show in"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "front of other people's eyes if you if"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "it passes in front of your eyes, but you"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "don't have anything?"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:55", "text": ">> Oh, that's an interesting conundrum"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:56", "text": ">> because it because you can't have"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "something."}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:00", "text": ">> Yeah. I guess I never thought about"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "that. That's a really interesting thing."}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "So,"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:03", "text": ">> but they got to know that something is"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "there. Wait, so anybody who's been"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "briefed on the UFO stuff has never been"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "shown a video in a skiff?"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:12", "text": ">> No, I didn't say that."}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:14", "text": ">> When I'm working on UFO cases or alien"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "encounters, the issue isn't just missing"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "or blurry footage. It's that anything I"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "try to recreate ends up being"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "inconsistent"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "with different looks, different"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "lighting, nothing nothing matches. And"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "most AI tools actually end up making it"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "worse. Like every generation feels like"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "a reset. you're just prompting random"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "things over and over. And that's what I"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "like about Higsfield Cinema Studio is"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "that it doesn't work like that at all."}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "You start with one intentional frame and"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "that's where you sort of define the shot"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "almost like a director would. And then"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "you take that frame and you extend it"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "into motion by choosing the camera"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "movements, the lenses, and even the"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "actual camera type. And so instead of"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "generating clips over and over, you're"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "working from a fixed starting point. And"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "that's what keeps everything consistent."}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "same scene, the same lighting, same"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "characters, same locations, same"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "perspective, just different takes of the"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "same shot. And for what I'm doing, it's"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "actually super important to try and"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "remain as accurate to the story as I"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "possibly can. And if you guys want to"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "try it out, I highly encourage you to"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "check it out right now. I left the link"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "in the description and let me know what"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "you think about Higsfield. And thank you"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "to Higsfield for sponsoring this video."}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "What I said is how I'm asking a"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "question. If you're me,"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:34", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:34", "text": ">> and you're George."}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:37", "text": ">> Uhhuh."}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:39", "text": ">> And you've said publicly to the world"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "that that footage has passed in front of"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "your eyes."}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:42", "text": ">> Uhhuh."}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:44", "text": ">> But you don't have it like it's not at"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "your home. So if your home gets raided,"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "it's not on your phone. So if your phone"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "gets taken,"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:51", "text": ">> so you have you have access, right?"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:54", "text": ">> Because it's been in front of your eyes"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "and you predicted have access. So, how"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "do you then"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "because, you know, in order for me to"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "testify, my condition is that the"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "American public has to see what I want"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "to show them because my words don't mean"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "[ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "I mean, they do, but like that's not the"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "point of why I got nothing really to"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "say."}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:13", "text": ">> Yeah, of course."}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:14", "text": ">> So, how do you get in there and bring"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "something? Because by the time you're"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "bringing something, you've got"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "something. So, you have something,"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:19", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:21", "text": ">> Okay. Then, let's say you're there."}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "First of all, you're a journalist. The"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "obtaining is fine. obtain and release."}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "I've never leaked anything in my life."}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "Now, sure, people have leaked stuff to"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "me and George, and that's a crime."}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "That's a federal crime. It's got major"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "punishment, and that's on whoever leaks"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "stuff. No, it's not. My wife's kind of"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "reinforced that to me, you know, that"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "you can't People make choices for better"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "or worse, hopefully for better because"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "they trust you. And the one thing I am"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "worthy of is people's trust. So, here we"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "go. How do we get into that room? And"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "then how do you show it if you don't if"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "if you don't have it? If you don't want"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "to have it in there because then you"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "have it. All of that all of that all of"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "that all of that"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "can instantaneously be reverse"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "classified even though it's once it's in"}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "the hands of journalists."}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:10", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:11", "text": ">> It's already in the hands of journalists"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "and they have a duty to to the public."}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:18", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. It's a tricky line. But me"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "and George doing no harm to national"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "security is important to us."}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:26", "text": ">> Now, one more layer just to you tell me"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "how you get out of this escape room."}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "Okay, so now I've got a conundrum."}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "I don't want I don't need to testify the"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "American public, but if I did, they"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "would see 12 things minimum. Okay. So,"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "I'm told by national security people"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "after months and months and months of"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "doing this dance, but also filling up"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "the [ __ ] people. They're going to"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "testify going through this massive"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "vetting process with each one. I brought"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "almost every single person you've seen"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "in the UAP hearing up there. Almost have"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "I directly facilitated their sitting"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "there almost."}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "So, with that said, I've got this"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "responsibility and I'm like, cool. Let's"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "let's see this through. Let's set this"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "up. So, we get notified that there is a"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "skiff and it's under my terms and"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "conditions, which is that these are the"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "people allowed and must be in the room"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "and you tell me who you want and I need"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "to know their names. Now, I need to know"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "who they work for. And and the the thing"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "about them is they they know that if"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "they tell me a lie,"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:35", "text": ">> I will find out. And that that's been"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "the bane of the existence of the DOJ and"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "everybody,"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:42", "text": ">> every agency, is that somehow through"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "magic with like a [ __ ] normal"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "spelling, okay, this spelling, okay,"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "that George and I can do that. So then"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "imagine this all set up. And by the way,"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "this is the one where they had another"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "journalist that wasn't George Knap at it"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "before. Right."}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:00", "text": ">> Right."}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:02", "text": ">> So it was for that. And then what"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "happens is I get a call. I'm in the"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "showers from a congressional person and"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "they say we have a leak straight out. We"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "have a leak. And I go, I know."}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "And then I'm going to say this person"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "said, do you know who it is? And I said,"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "I do. I believe I do."}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "And then this person said to me, \"I'm"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "not even going to be in DC. They're"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "lying to you.\" And I said, \"Didn't"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "know.\""}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "So I called my lawyer, my federal"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "lawyer, who is Chuck McCulla III. And in"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "that conversation,"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "I don't think this is a good idea for"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "you and George, Jeremy."}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:49", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:51", "text": ">> And and he explained why. Seems like a"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "almost like a trap."}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:54", "text": ">> Almost exactly"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "like a trap."}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:57", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:00", "text": ">> That sounds like standard operating"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "procedure as well. Like I mean for this"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "type of thing where it's like, \"Hey,"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "yeah, come on in.\""}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:04", "text": ">> No,"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:04", "text": ">> you know."}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:05", "text": ">> No, it's not."}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:07", "text": ">> You don't think so?"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:10", "text": ">> No, I know. So, there there's supposed"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "to be mutual trust. For example, I'll"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "give you another example."}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:17", "text": ">> When I say I'm going to give you 10"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "witnesses to choose from to testify."}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "Now, this is highly sensitive because"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "you're not going to choose 10. So, I'm"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "revealing to you out of 52 cards, you"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "know, 10 cards, but you can only play"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "with six. So, I'm like,"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "there are four people that will be"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "exposed that don't need to be. So, I've"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "got one rule, and if you ever break it,"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "I'm never doing this again. The rule is"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "nobody, cuz they got a lot of staffers."}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "Nobody"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:46", "text": ">> tells Arrow and nobody gets to know but"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "the people in the room. And that's a"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "trust thing. And that's the way it"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:54", "text": "should and usually goes except"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "every single one of them got exposed to"}, {"start": "00:19:54", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "Arrow and Arrow went after them in"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "different unique ways that I have"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "documented"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:04", "text": ">> and can prove in the court of law."}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:06", "text": ">> In in what in like what way have they"}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "gone after them in in sort of like"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:11", "text": ">> public um mocking? Is it like stalking"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "or is it threatening?"}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:13", "text": ">> Talking about the unknown people that"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "didn't testify."}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:17", "text": ">> Yeah, these are the unknown people. like"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:22", "text": "how did they how did they suffer"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "repercussions or reprisals from you know"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:24", "text": ">> they suffered repercussions or"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "reprisals? They said they went after"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "them. So that means a few different"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "things. Play the tape backwards cuz"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "sometimes I misspe. No, no. That's my"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "bad for assuming cuz I you know, you"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:37", "text": "hear it a lot with with these uh with"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "witnesses especially uh as of late uh"}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "you know Matt Brown and I I assume Dylan"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "Borland as well um because of the you"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "know the movie as well. You know you"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "hear him saying"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:52", "text": ">> oh but nobody's seen it yet."}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:53", "text": ">> Yeah. After this got this will go up"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:55", "text": "people people will have seen"}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:20:56", "text": ">> temporal dial. So, I'm going to skip and"}, {"start": "00:20:55", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "and and Chris Ramsay has a clock right"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "there, but it's it's there's a dilation."}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:02", "text": "This is two months early."}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:04", "text": ">> I am positive there's a dilation attire."}, {"start": "00:21:02", "end": "00:21:05", "text": ">> Yeah. Well, there there temporarily is"}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "we're sitting in a bubble that won't be"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:09", "text": "popped until May after May 18th."}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:10", "text": ">> I mean, it's like a month. No. So, two"}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:11", "text": "months away."}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:12", "text": ">> No, May 12th."}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:13", "text": ">> Oh, May 12th is"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:15", "text": ">> May 12th the bubble bursts."}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:18", "text": ">> Okay. Well, that's we're sitting in that"}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "current bubble. Um, but safe to say"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "Dylan Borland in in that documentary"}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:29", "text": ">> Oh, [ __ ] is clearly shaken up um by"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:31", "text": "what seems to be people coming after"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "him. He has a fear of people coming"}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "after his wife. He even asks you, you"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "know, on on one of your calls, no matter"}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "what happens to me, take care of my"}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "wife. He seems really really concerned."}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:42", "text": ">> He was"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:44", "text": ">> um"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:46", "text": ">> for good reason. And and so what I'm"}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:50", "text": "asking is like these four people and"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "maybe Dylan included, what sort of"}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "because we hear it a lot, you know, that"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:57", "text": "that they're being going at they're"}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:21:59", "text": "being gone after by some, you know,"}, {"start": "00:21:57", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "organization, some agency, but what"}, {"start": "00:21:59", "end": "00:22:05", "text": "exactly does that mean? Is it"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:06", "text": ">> straight up like brass knuckles and"}, {"start": "00:22:05", "end": "00:22:07", "text": "like, \"Hey, we're going to beat you out"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "in the parking lot if you don't shut"}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "up.\" Or is it more subtle?"}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:15", "text": "Is it like a little wink here and there"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "or is it very overt like hey if you"}, {"start": "00:22:15", "end": "00:22:19", "text": "don't stop this we'll bury you in the"}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:20", "text": "desert like what's what does that look"}, {"start": "00:22:19", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "like? Help me understand."}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:25", "text": ">> Right. So it's insidious and that's the"}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "best word that I can use for it and it"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "comes in a variety of ways and some are"}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "overt and some are covert and then some"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "are just almost seemingly inert. And and"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:39", "text": "it it it's really so I would like to"}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:43", "text": "break that down for you, but I want to"}, {"start": "00:22:39", "end": "00:22:43", "text": "back you up one second, church, is that"}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:51", "text": "Dylan raised his hand and got all the"}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "way there and he testified. So clearly"}, {"start": "00:22:51", "end": "00:22:55", "text": "I'm not talking about him."}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:57", "text": ">> Yeah. Although he did, you know, get"}, {"start": "00:22:55", "end": "00:22:59", "text": "messed with. And to be factual actually,"}, {"start": "00:22:57", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "Arrow was part of a significant"}, {"start": "00:22:59", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "operation to um entrap him with a false"}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:09", "text": "fictitious"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:11", "text": "I don't know the right words just"}, {"start": "00:23:09", "end": "00:23:13", "text": "completely fabricated"}, {"start": "00:23:11", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "crime."}, {"start": "00:23:13", "end": "00:23:15", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. And I I don't know"}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:17", "text": ">> that's pretty serious."}, {"start": "00:23:15", "end": "00:23:19", "text": ">> That's real."}, {"start": "00:23:17", "end": "00:23:22", "text": ">> And um we're So now talking to you"}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:23", "text": "though d time dilation we're not"}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "completely through that yet."}, {"start": "00:23:23", "end": "00:23:29", "text": ">> Mhm. So that just started being opened."}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:29", "text": ">> By the time this airs, it might have"}, {"start": "00:23:29", "end": "00:23:33", "text": "been"}, {"start": "00:23:29", "end": "00:23:34", "text": ">> I hope I hope I hope well I don't know,"}, {"start": "00:23:33", "end": "00:23:37", "text": "man. This is going to take a little"}, {"start": "00:23:34", "end": "00:23:39", "text": "while. I apologize for this. So"}, {"start": "00:23:37", "end": "00:23:44", "text": "I don't know. And and the reason I don't"}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:48", "text": "know is because my personal duty is to"}, {"start": "00:23:44", "end": "00:23:53", "text": "not harm where I live. And by telling"}, {"start": "00:23:48", "end": "00:23:56", "text": "the world what people in our country did"}, {"start": "00:23:53", "end": "00:23:57", "text": "to whistleblowers and who's involved"}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:24:01", "text": "from the king all the way down to the"}, {"start": "00:23:57", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "soldiers that could harm our nation's in"}, {"start": "00:24:01", "end": "00:24:07", "text": "my opinion"}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:09", "text": "uh security you know because it becomes"}, {"start": "00:24:07", "end": "00:24:13", "text": "a vulnerability"}, {"start": "00:24:09", "end": "00:24:15", "text": "for any adversarial nation to exploit if"}, {"start": "00:24:13", "end": "00:24:15", "text": "they know that we have dirty laundry"}, {"start": "00:24:15", "end": "00:24:17", "text": ">> right"}, {"start": "00:24:15", "end": "00:24:18", "text": ">> so I I I don't No,"}, {"start": "00:24:17", "end": "00:24:20", "text": ">> that's interesting."}, {"start": "00:24:18", "end": "00:24:22", "text": ">> And so this section of the podcast might"}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:24", "text": "be sped up to nonsense cuz I don't know."}, {"start": "00:24:22", "end": "00:24:25", "text": "Let's find out. So now let me answer"}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:27", "text": "your question."}, {"start": "00:24:25", "end": "00:24:31", "text": ">> What? Let's just get real terrestrial"}, {"start": "00:24:27", "end": "00:24:32", "text": "here. Okay. What does it mean when"}, {"start": "00:24:31", "end": "00:24:36", "text": "whistleblowers or people are threatened"}, {"start": "00:24:32", "end": "00:24:39", "text": "by a multitude of private contractors as"}, {"start": "00:24:36", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "well as intelligence agency individuals?"}, {"start": "00:24:39", "end": "00:24:42", "text": "I'm going to say because there are bad"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:43", "text": "apples in a barrel"}, {"start": "00:24:42", "end": "00:24:45", "text": ">> and and the barrel is good."}, {"start": "00:24:43", "end": "00:24:47", "text": ">> Yeah. Not to blame the whole agency."}, {"start": "00:24:45", "end": "00:24:48", "text": ">> Right. Sure. Right. So, so what does"}, {"start": "00:24:47", "end": "00:24:51", "text": "that look like? Well, I think the way"}, {"start": "00:24:48", "end": "00:24:53", "text": "you define for me in the world of magic,"}, {"start": "00:24:51", "end": "00:24:55", "text": "there are certain key elements of like a"}, {"start": "00:24:53", "end": "00:24:58", "text": "show. You broke some [ __ ] down for me"}, {"start": "00:24:55", "end": "00:25:00", "text": "this morning, right? Um, like what your"}, {"start": "00:24:58", "end": "00:25:04", "text": "language is. Do people spell the word"}, {"start": "00:25:00", "end": "00:25:08", "text": "magic the same way? Kind of like that."}, {"start": "00:25:04", "end": "00:25:10", "text": "Depending on the agency, each agency has"}, {"start": "00:25:08", "end": "00:25:12", "text": "a persona. So you can you can say a a"}, {"start": "00:25:10", "end": "00:25:16", "text": "CIA"}, {"start": "00:25:12", "end": "00:25:21", "text": "persona feels like an orange mug that"}, {"start": "00:25:16", "end": "00:25:22", "text": "says the flying saucer. Okay. ODNI is"}, {"start": "00:25:21", "end": "00:25:24", "text": "like a glass of water. That's their"}, {"start": "00:25:22", "end": "00:25:29", "text": "personality."}, {"start": "00:25:24", "end": "00:25:31", "text": "DOJ FBI. ODNI which oversees all"}, {"start": "00:25:29", "end": "00:25:33", "text": "intelligence agencies out of like let's"}, {"start": "00:25:31", "end": "00:25:35", "text": "pretend the 16 in the United States,"}, {"start": "00:25:33", "end": "00:25:39", "text": "right? ODNI would be the top of that"}, {"start": "00:25:35", "end": "00:25:41", "text": "pyramid. Allegedly. Allegedly, OD and II"}, {"start": "00:25:39", "end": "00:25:43", "text": "would have oversight in a pyramid all"}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:46", "text": "the way down to every intelligence"}, {"start": "00:25:43", "end": "00:25:49", "text": "agency within the United States. Okay."}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:49", "text": "Even ones that can only operate outside"}, {"start": "00:25:49", "end": "00:25:52", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "00:25:49", "end": "00:25:54", "text": ">> of the United States."}, {"start": "00:25:52", "end": "00:25:59", "text": "So, what does it look like? Well, it"}, {"start": "00:25:54", "end": "00:25:59", "text": "depends on who you're asking about. So,"}, {"start": "00:25:59", "end": "00:26:05", "text": "Arrow"}, {"start": "00:26:02", "end": "00:26:07", "text": "is beholden or sorry, beholden. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:26:05", "end": "00:26:08", "text": "I'd say beholden to the Pentagon, but I"}, {"start": "00:26:07", "end": "00:26:12", "text": "would I would typically say Arrow is"}, {"start": "00:26:08", "end": "00:26:13", "text": "beholden to ODNI. And I could be wrong,"}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:15", "text": "by the way. So, I'm just a bearded guy"}, {"start": "00:26:13", "end": "00:26:17", "text": "with tattoos who has a great mentor. I"}, {"start": "00:26:15", "end": "00:26:19", "text": "get things wrong all the time. So, I'm"}, {"start": "00:26:17", "end": "00:26:21", "text": "telling you now, I believe this to be"}, {"start": "00:26:19", "end": "00:26:22", "text": "the case. When I think about it later, I"}, {"start": "00:26:21", "end": "00:26:26", "text": "might change my answer."}, {"start": "00:26:22", "end": "00:26:28", "text": ">> So, if OD and I if if OD and I is"}, {"start": "00:26:26", "end": "00:26:30", "text": "running"}, {"start": "00:26:28", "end": "00:26:33", "text": "and it's got arrow underneath and arrow"}, {"start": "00:26:30", "end": "00:26:34", "text": "is doing the the pressurization of of"}, {"start": "00:26:33", "end": "00:26:37", "text": "somebody. Yep. Okay. that's going to"}, {"start": "00:26:34", "end": "00:26:39", "text": "have a distinct odor, feel, and smell."}, {"start": "00:26:37", "end": "00:26:43", "text": "So the way Arrow goes about it is they"}, {"start": "00:26:39", "end": "00:26:47", "text": "will have um for example a colonel"}, {"start": "00:26:43", "end": "00:26:50", "text": "and they will call for example"}, {"start": "00:26:47", "end": "00:26:54", "text": "um a navy an active navy guy and the"}, {"start": "00:26:50", "end": "00:26:56", "text": "active navy guy says I decline"}, {"start": "00:26:54", "end": "00:26:58", "text": "to interview with you because I have"}, {"start": "00:26:56", "end": "00:26:59", "text": "said so I'm going somebody that did"}, {"start": "00:26:58", "end": "00:27:03", "text": "testify right now to be kind of safe"}, {"start": "00:26:59", "end": "00:27:05", "text": "about my words but like Chief Wiggins"}, {"start": "00:27:03", "end": "00:27:09", "text": "okay he testified to the world raised"}, {"start": "00:27:05", "end": "00:27:12", "text": "his hand active Navy. So then Arrow"}, {"start": "00:27:09", "end": "00:27:16", "text": "after the fact under ODNI"}, {"start": "00:27:12", "end": "00:27:19", "text": "they is my impression. They would call"}, {"start": "00:27:16", "end": "00:27:20", "text": "him and he would respectfully decline an"}, {"start": "00:27:19", "end": "00:27:22", "text": "interview because he said I told them"}, {"start": "00:27:20", "end": "00:27:24", "text": "everything I know. What are you"}, {"start": "00:27:22", "end": "00:27:26", "text": "interested in? And then Arrow would say,"}, {"start": "00:27:24", "end": "00:27:27", "text": "\"Well, I'm not interested in in in"}, {"start": "00:27:26", "end": "00:27:32", "text": "people."}, {"start": "00:27:27", "end": "00:27:35", "text": "I'm just interested in events.\" Right?"}, {"start": "00:27:32", "end": "00:27:36", "text": "So, Senior Chief Wiggins would then be"}, {"start": "00:27:35", "end": "00:27:41", "text": "asked like, \"So, who was with you in"}, {"start": "00:27:36", "end": "00:27:43", "text": "that room when that video was taken?\""}, {"start": "00:27:41", "end": "00:27:46", "text": "Now, I know they're lying to him already"}, {"start": "00:27:43", "end": "00:27:46", "text": "because I provided them every name."}, {"start": "00:27:46", "end": "00:27:48", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:27:46", "end": "00:27:49", "text": ">> It was in that room because I provide a"}, {"start": "00:27:48", "end": "00:27:51", "text": "lot of people every name cuz it's public"}, {"start": "00:27:49", "end": "00:27:54", "text": "record cuz it's not a classified"}, {"start": "00:27:51", "end": "00:27:56", "text": "situation, right? So, now you've got"}, {"start": "00:27:54", "end": "00:27:59", "text": "this weird kind of pressurization that"}, {"start": "00:27:56", "end": "00:28:00", "text": "is beginning. And then if he declines"}, {"start": "00:27:59", "end": "00:28:01", "text": "again, and by the way, when they catch"}, {"start": "00:28:00", "end": "00:28:03", "text": "you on the phone and they pretend to be"}, {"start": "00:28:01", "end": "00:28:04", "text": "like driving in a car, or they are"}, {"start": "00:28:03", "end": "00:28:06", "text": "driving in a car, but they're pretending"}, {"start": "00:28:04", "end": "00:28:09", "text": "like, \"Oh, Mr. Magcoo, everything's"}, {"start": "00:28:06", "end": "00:28:11", "text": "cool.\" They're weaponizing his answers"}, {"start": "00:28:09", "end": "00:28:13", "text": "to try to entrap him in something that"}, {"start": "00:28:11", "end": "00:28:15", "text": "isn't real, right? They're they're"}, {"start": "00:28:13", "end": "00:28:16", "text": "wishing cuz they don't know. And that's"}, {"start": "00:28:15", "end": "00:28:18", "text": "what's so cool. They don't know. So,"}, {"start": "00:28:16", "end": "00:28:22", "text": "they're trying to create a situation to"}, {"start": "00:28:18", "end": "00:28:24", "text": "pressurize him. Why? Because ultimately,"}, {"start": "00:28:22", "end": "00:28:27", "text": "they want to have they want to be able"}, {"start": "00:28:24", "end": "00:28:30", "text": "to shape the emerging UAP narrative. So"}, {"start": "00:28:27", "end": "00:28:33", "text": "they want to have control of any naval"}, {"start": "00:28:30", "end": "00:28:35", "text": "person that would ever even dare to"}, {"start": "00:28:33", "end": "00:28:37", "text": "stand up and raise their hand about UAP"}, {"start": "00:28:35", "end": "00:28:38", "text": "again. Not that they're not going to let"}, {"start": "00:28:37", "end": "00:28:38", "text": "him. Yeah. They're just going to shape"}, {"start": "00:28:38", "end": "00:28:41", "text": "it."}, {"start": "00:28:38", "end": "00:28:43", "text": ">> They they have to Yeah. Um Yeah. They"}, {"start": "00:28:41", "end": "00:28:45", "text": "got to put out the fires."}, {"start": "00:28:43", "end": "00:28:46", "text": ">> They No, they need to do a have control"}, {"start": "00:28:45", "end": "00:28:47", "text": "of the burn."}, {"start": "00:28:46", "end": "00:28:50", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:28:47", "end": "00:28:53", "text": ">> So So that is one way that you apply"}, {"start": "00:28:50", "end": "00:28:54", "text": "pressure and that is the um inert way."}, {"start": "00:28:53", "end": "00:28:56", "text": "You nobody can get in trouble. Nobody is"}, {"start": "00:28:54", "end": "00:28:58", "text": "getting in trouble. This is a high level"}, {"start": "00:28:56", "end": "00:29:00", "text": "thing, but what they're trying to do is"}, {"start": "00:28:58", "end": "00:29:02", "text": "spread a word on the wash"}, {"start": "00:29:00", "end": "00:29:05", "text": "that there are obstacles to you telling"}, {"start": "00:29:02", "end": "00:29:08", "text": "the truth in the Navy because the things"}, {"start": "00:29:05", "end": "00:29:08", "text": "spread like when I brought when I kept"}, {"start": "00:29:08", "end": "00:29:11", "text": "commander"}, {"start": "00:29:08", "end": "00:29:12", "text": ">> that's so subtle like it feels"}, {"start": "00:29:11", "end": "00:29:15", "text": ">> I'm telling you the subtle one."}, {"start": "00:29:12", "end": "00:29:18", "text": ">> Yeah, it feels like that could almost be"}, {"start": "00:29:15", "end": "00:29:21", "text": "mistaken for"}, {"start": "00:29:18", "end": "00:29:22", "text": "I guess um ignorant."}, {"start": "00:29:21", "end": "00:29:26", "text": ">> Oh, I didn't finish."}, {"start": "00:29:22", "end": "00:29:30", "text": ">> Okay. Because then once you've declined"}, {"start": "00:29:26", "end": "00:29:33", "text": "and then your superior gets a call and"}, {"start": "00:29:30", "end": "00:29:36", "text": "that call is simply like menacing"}, {"start": "00:29:33", "end": "00:29:38", "text": "and then the superior says well what"}, {"start": "00:29:36", "end": "00:29:40", "text": "happens because the Navy's so they got"}, {"start": "00:29:38", "end": "00:29:42", "text": "the backs of their sailors they got the"}, {"start": "00:29:40", "end": "00:29:43", "text": "backs of them that's true that's fact"}, {"start": "00:29:42", "end": "00:29:46", "text": "about the Navy"}, {"start": "00:29:43", "end": "00:29:48", "text": ">> so then the we'll say senior person I"}, {"start": "00:29:46", "end": "00:29:52", "text": "don't want to identify rank or whatever"}, {"start": "00:29:48", "end": "00:29:56", "text": ">> um they'll say so what happens if he"}, {"start": "00:29:52", "end": "00:30:00", "text": "declines signs again and the flex will"}, {"start": "00:29:56", "end": "00:30:00", "text": "be well we'll go to Pete Hexath."}, {"start": "00:30:02", "end": "00:30:05", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:30:03", "end": "00:30:06", "text": ">> Okay. So they will go to"}, {"start": "00:30:05", "end": "00:30:07", "text": ">> like just flexing that they have a"}, {"start": "00:30:06", "end": "00:30:08", "text": "direct line"}, {"start": "00:30:07", "end": "00:30:10", "text": ">> and you know his position."}, {"start": "00:30:08", "end": "00:30:13", "text": ">> Yeah. The Secretary of War."}, {"start": "00:30:10", "end": "00:30:15", "text": ">> Okay. So that was their flex which made"}, {"start": "00:30:13", "end": "00:30:18", "text": "me [ __ ] laugh. I got my sense of"}, {"start": "00:30:15", "end": "00:30:20", "text": "humor back when I heard that,"}, {"start": "00:30:18", "end": "00:30:23", "text": ">> man. Cuz that is the worst possible flex"}, {"start": "00:30:20", "end": "00:30:24", "text": "they could possibly do cuz it's such"}, {"start": "00:30:23", "end": "00:30:24", "text": "[ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:30:24", "end": "00:30:25", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:30:24", "end": "00:30:25", "text": ">> So, now we're in the thick of that,"}, {"start": "00:30:25", "end": "00:30:27", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "00:30:25", "end": "00:30:30", "text": ">> That's like I'll tell the teacher."}, {"start": "00:30:27", "end": "00:30:33", "text": ">> No. Well, so I hate keep saying no, but"}, {"start": "00:30:30", "end": "00:30:37", "text": "um Yes. And Yes. And um we are going to"}, {"start": "00:30:33", "end": "00:30:39", "text": "get the teacher to sit you in the corner"}, {"start": "00:30:37", "end": "00:30:40", "text": "and you will [ __ ] answer and you will"}, {"start": "00:30:39", "end": "00:30:42", "text": "interview with us even though you've"}, {"start": "00:30:40", "end": "00:30:43", "text": "already said everything to the American"}, {"start": "00:30:42", "end": "00:30:46", "text": "public that you [ __ ] know. And that's"}, {"start": "00:30:43", "end": "00:30:47", "text": "the end of a message that then flows"}, {"start": "00:30:46", "end": "00:30:49", "text": "through the Navy. Now, that is the"}, {"start": "00:30:47", "end": "00:30:52", "text": "inert, right? I listed three types."}, {"start": "00:30:49", "end": "00:30:54", "text": "Covert, um, overt, I think I said, and"}, {"start": "00:30:52", "end": "00:30:56", "text": "inert. Is that what I said? Sure. Play"}, {"start": "00:30:54", "end": "00:30:59", "text": "the tape back. Okay."}, {"start": "00:30:56", "end": "00:31:02", "text": ">> So, that is like the most simple version"}, {"start": "00:30:59", "end": "00:31:05", "text": "of inert. Right now, you've got we're"}, {"start": "00:31:02", "end": "00:31:06", "text": "talking about threatening witnesses. Is"}, {"start": "00:31:05", "end": "00:31:06", "text": "that what we're talking about?"}, {"start": "00:31:06", "end": "00:31:06", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:31:06", "end": "00:31:08", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:31:06", "end": "00:31:10", "text": ">> Well, I just want to know what they mean"}, {"start": "00:31:08", "end": "00:31:12", "text": "by that because we've heard it a lot."}, {"start": "00:31:10", "end": "00:31:15", "text": "We've heard about reprisals. we heard"}, {"start": "00:31:12", "end": "00:31:17", "text": "this and that and it's kind of been like"}, {"start": "00:31:15", "end": "00:31:19", "text": "never even you know when Grush talked"}, {"start": "00:31:17", "end": "00:31:23", "text": "about it Grush has said that you know"}, {"start": "00:31:19", "end": "00:31:25", "text": "people have sustained uh injury and you"}, {"start": "00:31:23", "end": "00:31:27", "text": "know casualties have been taken but like"}, {"start": "00:31:25", "end": "00:31:29", "text": "it's always kind of been vague and I"}, {"start": "00:31:27", "end": "00:31:31", "text": "just want to know what exactly goes on"}, {"start": "00:31:29", "end": "00:31:33", "text": "with these interactions. So, so it is"}, {"start": "00:31:31", "end": "00:31:35", "text": "always going to be big because now we're"}, {"start": "00:31:33", "end": "00:31:37", "text": "going to move over from co or we're"}, {"start": "00:31:35", "end": "00:31:40", "text": "going to move out from inert. We're"}, {"start": "00:31:37", "end": "00:31:42", "text": "going to move to um I think we'll move"}, {"start": "00:31:40", "end": "00:31:43", "text": "to covert."}, {"start": "00:31:42", "end": "00:31:45", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:31:43", "end": "00:31:47", "text": ">> So, so covert. Um or should what was the"}, {"start": "00:31:45", "end": "00:31:49", "text": "other one I said? Um"}, {"start": "00:31:47", "end": "00:31:54", "text": ">> overt. We we can go to overt. Let's go"}, {"start": "00:31:49", "end": "00:31:57", "text": "overt and then covert. Okay. So"}, {"start": "00:31:54", "end": "00:31:57", "text": "overt."}, {"start": "00:31:59", "end": "00:32:04", "text": "You get a call and on the other end of"}, {"start": "00:32:01", "end": "00:32:06", "text": "that call is we are going to [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:32:04", "end": "00:32:08", "text": "kill you."}, {"start": "00:32:06", "end": "00:32:10", "text": "Full stop."}, {"start": "00:32:08", "end": "00:32:12", "text": "Hang up. That's just a start. Okay, that"}, {"start": "00:32:10", "end": "00:32:12", "text": "that's overt, right? Would you agree"}, {"start": "00:32:12", "end": "00:32:13", "text": "that's overt?"}, {"start": "00:32:12", "end": "00:32:15", "text": ">> That's pretty overt."}, {"start": "00:32:13", "end": "00:32:18", "text": ">> Yeah, we're going to [ __ ] kill you."}, {"start": "00:32:15", "end": "00:32:20", "text": ">> Hang up. Now, that'll get in your head"}, {"start": "00:32:18", "end": "00:32:21", "text": "like a worm. Okay. So, you get like a"}, {"start": "00:32:20", "end": "00:32:22", "text": "bunch of those."}, {"start": "00:32:21", "end": "00:32:24", "text": ">> You don't know where that's coming from."}, {"start": "00:32:22", "end": "00:32:30", "text": ">> Let's keep going."}, {"start": "00:32:24", "end": "00:32:32", "text": "Overt. You tell me if this is overt."}, {"start": "00:32:30", "end": "00:32:34", "text": "You're at a a bar and you're you're"}, {"start": "00:32:32", "end": "00:32:36", "text": "there with friends that can read. I say"}, {"start": "00:32:34", "end": "00:32:37", "text": "they can read. They can read the room."}, {"start": "00:32:36", "end": "00:32:42", "text": "Okay. A funny story about auntie, but"}, {"start": "00:32:37", "end": "00:32:46", "text": "anyway, they can read. And there is a"}, {"start": "00:32:42", "end": "00:32:49", "text": "violently murderous, quiet [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:32:46", "end": "00:32:53", "text": "just sitting by you. And you can feel"}, {"start": "00:32:49", "end": "00:32:54", "text": "like pain, right? Like it hurts."}, {"start": "00:32:53", "end": "00:32:56", "text": "And you're like, \"Oh, it's [ __ ] in my"}, {"start": "00:32:54", "end": "00:32:57", "text": "head.\" You know, [ __ ] chill out, man."}, {"start": "00:32:56", "end": "00:33:00", "text": "Get a sense of humor. Breathe. You know,"}, {"start": "00:32:57", "end": "00:33:03", "text": "it's fine."}, {"start": "00:33:00", "end": "00:33:06", "text": "So, you are so used to this that you go"}, {"start": "00:33:03", "end": "00:33:08", "text": "to the bar cuz you know all the locals"}, {"start": "00:33:06", "end": "00:33:09", "text": "and you just ask, \"You ever seen this"}, {"start": "00:33:08", "end": "00:33:11", "text": "guy before?\" Nobody's ever seen this"}, {"start": "00:33:09", "end": "00:33:14", "text": "guy. Nobody. Servers there 10 years."}, {"start": "00:33:11", "end": "00:33:16", "text": "Never seen this guy."}, {"start": "00:33:14", "end": "00:33:19", "text": "So, you buy a beer and you put the beer"}, {"start": "00:33:16", "end": "00:33:21", "text": "down right next to the guy"}, {"start": "00:33:19", "end": "00:33:23", "text": "and you go, \"Hey, man. Never seen you"}, {"start": "00:33:21", "end": "00:33:25", "text": "around here. My name is Jeremy. Here's a"}, {"start": "00:33:23", "end": "00:33:26", "text": "cool sticker. It's a joke.\" Um, but it's"}, {"start": "00:33:25", "end": "00:33:28", "text": "not. It's good. That's [ __ ] flying"}, {"start": "00:33:26", "end": "00:33:30", "text": "saucer. You know, like that. And you go,"}, {"start": "00:33:28", "end": "00:33:34", "text": "\"You live by here.\""}, {"start": "00:33:30", "end": "00:33:38", "text": "And the the the mask, the charade just"}, {"start": "00:33:34", "end": "00:33:39", "text": "like vanishes. Totally unmasked, right?"}, {"start": "00:33:38", "end": "00:33:41", "text": "Totally unmasked. and you happen to have"}, {"start": "00:33:39", "end": "00:33:42", "text": "a reporter"}, {"start": "00:33:41", "end": "00:33:44", "text": ">> watching"}, {"start": "00:33:42", "end": "00:33:47", "text": ">> who can read"}, {"start": "00:33:44", "end": "00:33:51", "text": "and the individual says something"}, {"start": "00:33:47", "end": "00:33:54", "text": "exactly like, \"Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:33:51", "end": "00:33:57", "text": "just down the road, but like that.\""}, {"start": "00:33:54", "end": "00:34:00", "text": "And you're like, \"Cool."}, {"start": "00:33:57", "end": "00:34:01", "text": "So, bullshit.\""}, {"start": "00:34:00", "end": "00:34:05", "text": "And then that guy would say something"}, {"start": "00:34:01", "end": "00:34:08", "text": "like very, very threatening, would stand"}, {"start": "00:34:05", "end": "00:34:10", "text": "up, walk away. Now, when I said"}, {"start": "00:34:08", "end": "00:34:13", "text": "[ __ ] let me clarify. I didn't say"}, {"start": "00:34:10", "end": "00:34:15", "text": "like [ __ ] I was like, \"Come on,"}, {"start": "00:34:13", "end": "00:34:18", "text": "man.\" That was my version of [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:34:15", "end": "00:34:20", "text": "So, that is very overt intimidation,"}, {"start": "00:34:18", "end": "00:34:22", "text": "especially when you can find out later"}, {"start": "00:34:20", "end": "00:34:23", "text": "who that person was."}, {"start": "00:34:22", "end": "00:34:25", "text": ">> You found out who that person was."}, {"start": "00:34:23", "end": "00:34:26", "text": ">> I'm saying especially when you can."}, {"start": "00:34:25", "end": "00:34:27", "text": ">> Did you?"}, {"start": "00:34:26", "end": "00:34:29", "text": ">> I'm going to decline to answer that."}, {"start": "00:34:27", "end": "00:34:31", "text": ">> Okay. Well, I mean,"}, {"start": "00:34:29", "end": "00:34:33", "text": ">> I'm sorry. I mean, I need to hold"}, {"start": "00:34:31", "end": "00:34:33", "text": "something for myself. Yeah. For my own"}, {"start": "00:34:33", "end": "00:34:34", "text": "sake."}, {"start": "00:34:33", "end": "00:34:35", "text": ">> So, you may or may not have found out"}, {"start": "00:34:34", "end": "00:34:36", "text": "who that was."}, {"start": "00:34:35", "end": "00:34:37", "text": ">> For my own sanity, right?"}, {"start": "00:34:36", "end": "00:34:39", "text": ">> Sure. Okay."}, {"start": "00:34:37", "end": "00:34:39", "text": ">> So, I'm not trying to be evasive. Give"}, {"start": "00:34:39", "end": "00:34:41", "text": "me the"}, {"start": "00:34:39", "end": "00:34:43", "text": ">> soda. Could you take this guy in a"}, {"start": "00:34:41", "end": "00:34:43", "text": "fight? If it No weapons."}, {"start": "00:34:43", "end": "00:34:44", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "00:34:43", "end": "00:34:45", "text": ">> He was big."}, {"start": "00:34:44", "end": "00:34:46", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:34:45", "end": "00:34:48", "text": ">> He's a huge guy."}, {"start": "00:34:46", "end": "00:34:51", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No way. I'm dead."}, {"start": "00:34:48", "end": "00:34:53", "text": ">> So, especially when a when when your"}, {"start": "00:34:51", "end": "00:34:54", "text": "friend follows that guy because he can"}, {"start": "00:34:53", "end": "00:34:56", "text": "read and was hanging out by a car"}, {"start": "00:34:54", "end": "00:34:57", "text": "watching everything cuz I got good"}, {"start": "00:34:56", "end": "00:34:58", "text": "friends. I don't hang out with"}, {"start": "00:34:57", "end": "00:34:59", "text": "douchebags."}, {"start": "00:34:58", "end": "00:35:02", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:34:59", "end": "00:35:03", "text": ">> And they follow and he notices that the"}, {"start": "00:35:02", "end": "00:35:06", "text": "guys because he's not like a trained"}, {"start": "00:35:03", "end": "00:35:08", "text": "guy. And when he notices, he walks up"}, {"start": "00:35:06", "end": "00:35:10", "text": "into the woods."}, {"start": "00:35:08", "end": "00:35:11", "text": ">> Not Yeah, he walked up into the woods."}, {"start": "00:35:10", "end": "00:35:12", "text": ">> Oh, that's creepy."}, {"start": "00:35:11", "end": "00:35:14", "text": ">> Yeah. So, that's overt. Would you"}, {"start": "00:35:12", "end": "00:35:16", "text": "consider that overt?"}, {"start": "00:35:14", "end": "00:35:17", "text": ">> When you when you called him out for"}, {"start": "00:35:16", "end": "00:35:22", "text": "[ __ ] what did he say?"}, {"start": "00:35:17", "end": "00:35:23", "text": ">> Um, [ __ ] Uh, the exact words were um"}, {"start": "00:35:22", "end": "00:35:24", "text": "like watch your back or something or was"}, {"start": "00:35:23", "end": "00:35:26", "text": "it"}, {"start": "00:35:24", "end": "00:35:28", "text": ">> No, I think what I said was I didn't say"}, {"start": "00:35:26", "end": "00:35:28", "text": "the exact words you said. I don't recall"}, {"start": "00:35:28", "end": "00:35:31", "text": "what I"}, {"start": "00:35:28", "end": "00:35:32", "text": ">> Yeah, you said like uh no way or"}, {"start": "00:35:31", "end": "00:35:34", "text": "whatever."}, {"start": "00:35:32", "end": "00:35:35", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. I I'm sorry. my brain this"}, {"start": "00:35:34", "end": "00:35:37", "text": "morning. Whatever I said before, if I"}, {"start": "00:35:35", "end": "00:35:39", "text": "said it, then it was in my mind as the"}, {"start": "00:35:37", "end": "00:35:40", "text": "exact. I don't want to put myself right"}, {"start": "00:35:39", "end": "00:35:40", "text": "there again cuz I'm just moving you"}, {"start": "00:35:40", "end": "00:35:42", "text": "through over."}, {"start": "00:35:40", "end": "00:35:44", "text": ">> Yeah. You were like, \"Get out of here.\""}, {"start": "00:35:42", "end": "00:35:44", "text": ">> So, so no, no, I didn't say get out of"}, {"start": "00:35:44", "end": "00:35:46", "text": "here."}, {"start": "00:35:44", "end": "00:35:48", "text": ">> No, like when he said, you know, I live"}, {"start": "00:35:46", "end": "00:35:48", "text": "down the road. You called him out on it,"}, {"start": "00:35:48", "end": "00:35:50", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "00:35:48", "end": "00:35:50", "text": ">> Did he say anything back to you before"}, {"start": "00:35:50", "end": "00:35:52", "text": "he left?"}, {"start": "00:35:50", "end": "00:35:53", "text": ">> Yes. And I already said it and I my"}, {"start": "00:35:52", "end": "00:35:54", "text": "brain is already"}, {"start": "00:35:53", "end": "00:35:55", "text": ">> No, you didn't say what he said. You"}, {"start": "00:35:54", "end": "00:35:56", "text": "said what you said. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:35:55", "end": "00:35:58", "text": ">> So, let's just let's just leave it at"}, {"start": "00:35:56", "end": "00:35:58", "text": "that and I want to move forward."}, {"start": "00:35:58", "end": "00:36:01", "text": ">> All right."}, {"start": "00:35:58", "end": "00:36:05", "text": ">> Um I I I will do a disclaimer about my"}, {"start": "00:36:01", "end": "00:36:07", "text": "my brain. uh at the later my memory. No,"}, {"start": "00:36:05", "end": "00:36:07", "text": "that's fine. This works. Okay, fine. I"}, {"start": "00:36:07", "end": "00:36:09", "text": "understand."}, {"start": "00:36:07", "end": "00:36:09", "text": ">> So, I have to I have to put myself there"}, {"start": "00:36:09", "end": "00:36:10", "text": "visually."}, {"start": "00:36:09", "end": "00:36:12", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:36:10", "end": "00:36:13", "text": ">> But I've already moved on. So, so now"}, {"start": "00:36:12", "end": "00:36:16", "text": ">> Jeremy, first of all, as someone who"}, {"start": "00:36:13", "end": "00:36:19", "text": "spent time with you, like I understand"}, {"start": "00:36:16", "end": "00:36:21", "text": "you don't have to keep explaining um you"}, {"start": "00:36:19", "end": "00:36:23", "text": "know,"}, {"start": "00:36:21", "end": "00:36:24", "text": "your your the way that you interpret how"}, {"start": "00:36:23", "end": "00:36:26", "text": "your brain works or anything. I get it."}, {"start": "00:36:24", "end": "00:36:27", "text": ">> No, no, I know. But your audience"}, {"start": "00:36:26", "end": "00:36:28", "text": "doesn't know me."}, {"start": "00:36:27", "end": "00:36:28", "text": ">> That's okay."}, {"start": "00:36:28", "end": "00:36:30", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:36:28", "end": "00:36:33", "text": ">> I get it. And if they've watched the"}, {"start": "00:36:30", "end": "00:36:35", "text": "movie, um, which by now they would have,"}, {"start": "00:36:33", "end": "00:36:36", "text": "um, they'll get a glimpse into who you"}, {"start": "00:36:35", "end": "00:36:36", "text": "are,"}, {"start": "00:36:36", "end": "00:36:37", "text": ">> okay?"}, {"start": "00:36:36", "end": "00:36:38", "text": ">> And how your brain works,"}, {"start": "00:36:37", "end": "00:36:39", "text": ">> okay?"}, {"start": "00:36:38", "end": "00:36:42", "text": ">> And I think they can appreciate it. And"}, {"start": "00:36:39", "end": "00:36:43", "text": "I think, uh, you know, just just so that"}, {"start": "00:36:42", "end": "00:36:45", "text": "you don't have to feel the need to stop"}, {"start": "00:36:43", "end": "00:36:46", "text": "and and address it all the time,"}, {"start": "00:36:45", "end": "00:36:48", "text": ">> okay? But I, you know, I usually have a"}, {"start": "00:36:46", "end": "00:36:49", "text": "pen and paper cuz I I I don't want to"}, {"start": "00:36:48", "end": "00:36:50", "text": "get off track when I answer your"}, {"start": "00:36:49", "end": "00:36:52", "text": "questions. I hate it when people don't"}, {"start": "00:36:50", "end": "00:36:54", "text": "answer questions, but I I need to take"}, {"start": "00:36:52", "end": "00:36:55", "text": "you somewhere so that you really"}, {"start": "00:36:54", "end": "00:36:56", "text": "understand it."}, {"start": "00:36:55", "end": "00:36:59", "text": ">> You're pretty good at putting a pen in"}, {"start": "00:36:56", "end": "00:37:01", "text": "things. Okay. So now here we are. Would"}, {"start": "00:36:59", "end": "00:37:03", "text": "you consider I've given you two now."}, {"start": "00:37:01", "end": "00:37:04", "text": "Would you consider that overt?"}, {"start": "00:37:03", "end": "00:37:05", "text": ">> I would consider that somewhere between"}, {"start": "00:37:04", "end": "00:37:07", "text": "covert and overt."}, {"start": "00:37:05", "end": "00:37:09", "text": ">> Right. So so now now we're there. It was"}, {"start": "00:37:07", "end": "00:37:12", "text": "covert before it was overt. Okay. It"}, {"start": "00:37:09", "end": "00:37:13", "text": "became very overt. Yeah. Okay. But so"}, {"start": "00:37:12", "end": "00:37:15", "text": "now I gave you one which is like the"}, {"start": "00:37:13", "end": "00:37:17", "text": "calls. Then I gave you one where the guy"}, {"start": "00:37:15", "end": "00:37:18", "text": "kind of starts off covert and then is"}, {"start": "00:37:17", "end": "00:37:19", "text": "overt. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:37:18", "end": "00:37:21", "text": ">> Now I've got another one for you to show"}, {"start": "00:37:19", "end": "00:37:25", "text": "you where the lines start blurring. So,"}, {"start": "00:37:21", "end": "00:37:28", "text": "let's say you're standing somewhere and"}, {"start": "00:37:25", "end": "00:37:31", "text": "somebody mark bumps into you and marks"}, {"start": "00:37:28", "end": "00:37:31", "text": "you. Let's just marks you. We'll say I"}, {"start": "00:37:31", "end": "00:37:33", "text": "just want to be"}, {"start": "00:37:31", "end": "00:37:34", "text": ">> physically bumps into you."}, {"start": "00:37:33", "end": "00:37:36", "text": ">> Physically bumps into you and like, you"}, {"start": "00:37:34", "end": "00:37:38", "text": "know, let's say puts something on you"}, {"start": "00:37:36", "end": "00:37:39", "text": "that marks you. Let's pretend it's a"}, {"start": "00:37:38", "end": "00:37:40", "text": "pin. Okay. Sure."}, {"start": "00:37:39", "end": "00:37:42", "text": ">> You know, bump into you. Next thing you"}, {"start": "00:37:40", "end": "00:37:46", "text": "know, you're wearing a pin. Okay."}, {"start": "00:37:42", "end": "00:37:49", "text": ">> So, then later you come to understand"}, {"start": "00:37:46", "end": "00:37:52", "text": "the meaning of that pin, right? And so"}, {"start": "00:37:49", "end": "00:37:54", "text": "that is overt even though"}, {"start": "00:37:52", "end": "00:37:56", "text": ">> nothing is quite said now."}, {"start": "00:37:54", "end": "00:37:58", "text": ">> So there's another version. We're"}, {"start": "00:37:56", "end": "00:37:59", "text": "getting into the real covert. Yeah. We"}, {"start": "00:37:58", "end": "00:38:00", "text": "got to look around our bed."}, {"start": "00:37:59", "end": "00:38:02", "text": ">> Just I'm making sure the cameras roll."}, {"start": "00:38:00", "end": "00:38:03", "text": ">> I know. I was giving you cover."}, {"start": "00:38:02", "end": "00:38:05", "text": ">> Okay. I'm I'm trying to be"}, {"start": "00:38:03", "end": "00:38:06", "text": ">> He's making sure the cameras are still"}, {"start": "00:38:05", "end": "00:38:07", "text": "rolling. These are brand new cameras and"}, {"start": "00:38:06", "end": "00:38:08", "text": "Chris Ramsey is nervous that the"}, {"start": "00:38:07", "end": "00:38:10", "text": "screen's going to go out. Okay."}, {"start": "00:38:08", "end": "00:38:12", "text": ">> Boom. All screens going."}, {"start": "00:38:10", "end": "00:38:13", "text": ">> Okay. So So now we're kind of blending"}, {"start": "00:38:12", "end": "00:38:15", "text": "the covert over. You know, you said"}, {"start": "00:38:13", "end": "00:38:17", "text": "brass knuckles. Um sure people get beat"}, {"start": "00:38:15", "end": "00:38:19", "text": "up. They get [ __ ] killed all the time"}, {"start": "00:38:17", "end": "00:38:21", "text": "for what they know. That does happen."}, {"start": "00:38:19", "end": "00:38:23", "text": "And that's not just UFO related. That's"}, {"start": "00:38:21", "end": "00:38:24", "text": "like we have in the mob"}, {"start": "00:38:23", "end": "00:38:27", "text": ">> there are thugs all over,"}, {"start": "00:38:24", "end": "00:38:29", "text": ">> right? In the mob, you get killed simply"}, {"start": "00:38:27", "end": "00:38:32", "text": "because you know something, you will be"}, {"start": "00:38:29", "end": "00:38:36", "text": "murdered viciously to send a message."}, {"start": "00:38:32", "end": "00:38:40", "text": "But sometimes when people just vanish,"}, {"start": "00:38:36", "end": "00:38:43", "text": "that is also a message to the people"}, {"start": "00:38:40", "end": "00:38:46", "text": "that need to hear the message."}, {"start": "00:38:43", "end": "00:38:47", "text": "Poof, you're gone. You're Masslin. Poof,"}, {"start": "00:38:46", "end": "00:38:49", "text": "you're gone. You're so and so. Poof,"}, {"start": "00:38:47", "end": "00:38:50", "text": "you're a guy at Los Alamos. You're gone."}, {"start": "00:38:49", "end": "00:38:52", "text": "Poof. You were working on a science"}, {"start": "00:38:50", "end": "00:38:53", "text": "thing and all of a sudden, poof, you're"}, {"start": "00:38:52", "end": "00:38:56", "text": "gone. You're gone. You're gone. Question"}, {"start": "00:38:53", "end": "00:38:59", "text": "is, where'd you go? Now, we find bodies"}, {"start": "00:38:56", "end": "00:39:02", "text": "sometimes. Question is, is Masslin a"}, {"start": "00:38:59", "end": "00:39:04", "text": "threebody problem?"}, {"start": "00:39:02", "end": "00:39:06", "text": "Is he because there were two others that"}, {"start": "00:39:04", "end": "00:39:08", "text": "people are linking to him in some weird"}, {"start": "00:39:06", "end": "00:39:10", "text": "kind of way? And did it have anything to"}, {"start": "00:39:08", "end": "00:39:11", "text": "do with UFOs? I have no idea. I'm not"}, {"start": "00:39:10", "end": "00:39:15", "text": "read into that. But I'm just saying"}, {"start": "00:39:11", "end": "00:39:17", "text": "sometimes people vanishing is more of a"}, {"start": "00:39:15", "end": "00:39:19", "text": "message to those that need to know than"}, {"start": "00:39:17", "end": "00:39:21", "text": "if somebody gets killed."}, {"start": "00:39:19", "end": "00:39:24", "text": ">> So the worst thing you could do"}, {"start": "00:39:21", "end": "00:39:28", "text": ">> is um like stab Dylan Borland in the"}, {"start": "00:39:24", "end": "00:39:29", "text": "neck 20 times uh you know in public cuz"}, {"start": "00:39:28", "end": "00:39:31", "text": "then that would make a lot of questions."}, {"start": "00:39:29", "end": "00:39:32", "text": "So if you really were trying to hurt"}, {"start": "00:39:31", "end": "00:39:32", "text": "somebody"}, {"start": "00:39:32", "end": "00:39:34", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:39:32", "end": "00:39:35", "text": ">> then the best way to do it"}, {"start": "00:39:34", "end": "00:39:36", "text": ">> is covert."}, {"start": "00:39:35", "end": "00:39:38", "text": ">> Just make them go away."}, {"start": "00:39:36", "end": "00:39:38", "text": ">> No. That's cuz remember that's a big"}, {"start": "00:39:38", "end": "00:39:39", "text": "message too."}, {"start": "00:39:38", "end": "00:39:42", "text": ">> Oh that's a big message too."}, {"start": "00:39:39", "end": "00:39:44", "text": ">> Right. So, it would be covert. And the"}, {"start": "00:39:42", "end": "00:39:47", "text": "best way to get a result is to have"}, {"start": "00:39:44", "end": "00:39:49", "text": "people do it for you without them even"}, {"start": "00:39:47", "end": "00:39:50", "text": "knowing it."}, {"start": "00:39:49", "end": "00:39:53", "text": ">> How do you mean?"}, {"start": "00:39:50", "end": "00:39:56", "text": ">> Okay. So, you've got somebody that is"}, {"start": "00:39:53", "end": "00:39:58", "text": "mentally unstable and already dislikes"}, {"start": "00:39:56", "end": "00:40:00", "text": "Chris Ramsey. We're going to put it on"}, {"start": "00:39:58", "end": "00:40:03", "text": "you so you can feel it. Okay. Okay."}, {"start": "00:40:00", "end": "00:40:06", "text": ">> So, this guy is a UFO fanatic and this"}, {"start": "00:40:03", "end": "00:40:08", "text": "guy is unstable and this guy [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:40:06", "end": "00:40:13", "text": "hates you, Chris."}, {"start": "00:40:08", "end": "00:40:15", "text": "Okay. Easy. This guy also has a history."}, {"start": "00:40:13", "end": "00:40:17", "text": "That history allows him to be close to"}, {"start": "00:40:15", "end": "00:40:19", "text": "intelligence,"}, {"start": "00:40:17", "end": "00:40:22", "text": "but he [ __ ] hates you."}, {"start": "00:40:19", "end": "00:40:23", "text": ">> And he ain't wrapped so tight."}, {"start": "00:40:22", "end": "00:40:25", "text": ">> But that's why they chose him in the"}, {"start": "00:40:23", "end": "00:40:27", "text": "first place for other jobs. You have to"}, {"start": "00:40:25", "end": "00:40:30", "text": "be a little bit of um sociopathic"}, {"start": "00:40:27", "end": "00:40:32", "text": "tendencies to be chosen. Not loose"}, {"start": "00:40:30", "end": "00:40:33", "text": "cannon. They can't have that. Um ask"}, {"start": "00:40:32", "end": "00:40:36", "text": "that guy that was in prison from the"}, {"start": "00:40:33", "end": "00:40:39", "text": "CIA. um that dude who's famously a"}, {"start": "00:40:36", "end": "00:40:40", "text": "whistleblower about um murders or sorry"}, {"start": "00:40:39", "end": "00:40:42", "text": "about um torture."}, {"start": "00:40:40", "end": "00:40:45", "text": ">> What's his name? Come on man, my brain."}, {"start": "00:40:42", "end": "00:40:48", "text": ">> Um Karyaku, John Keryaku or something."}, {"start": "00:40:45", "end": "00:40:52", "text": "So this guy was famously CIA and FBI"}, {"start": "00:40:48", "end": "00:40:54", "text": "tried to entrap him because he told the"}, {"start": "00:40:52", "end": "00:40:55", "text": "truth to the world that we were"}, {"start": "00:40:54", "end": "00:40:58", "text": "waterboarding and torturing people. So"}, {"start": "00:40:55", "end": "00:41:00", "text": "he served out of choice four years in"}, {"start": "00:40:58", "end": "00:41:02", "text": "prison as a CIA guy for you know"}, {"start": "00:41:00", "end": "00:41:03", "text": "disclosure going on the news of this"}, {"start": "00:41:02", "end": "00:41:07", "text": "fact because it was the right thing to"}, {"start": "00:41:03", "end": "00:41:09", "text": "do. and he'd do it again. Right? So,"}, {"start": "00:41:07", "end": "00:41:13", "text": "kind of reeling me back in to the story"}, {"start": "00:41:09", "end": "00:41:16", "text": "about you. So, you've got somebody now"}, {"start": "00:41:13", "end": "00:41:18", "text": "that has close ties to intelligence, who"}, {"start": "00:41:16", "end": "00:41:20", "text": "is not a loose cannon, just has"}, {"start": "00:41:18", "end": "00:41:23", "text": "sociopathic"}, {"start": "00:41:20", "end": "00:41:24", "text": "um tendencies, but is not sociopathic"}, {"start": "00:41:23", "end": "00:41:26", "text": "because you can't control those guys."}, {"start": "00:41:24", "end": "00:41:29", "text": "Okay?"}, {"start": "00:41:26", "end": "00:41:33", "text": "All that needs to be done"}, {"start": "00:41:29", "end": "00:41:37", "text": "is to instigate quietly, poke, prod,"}, {"start": "00:41:33", "end": "00:41:39", "text": "inflame, and then that person gets the"}, {"start": "00:41:37", "end": "00:41:39", "text": "bright idea to really hurt you."}, {"start": "00:41:39", "end": "00:41:42", "text": ">> Right?"}, {"start": "00:41:39", "end": "00:41:43", "text": ">> So now that person is as an emissary"}, {"start": "00:41:42", "end": "00:41:46", "text": "doing what's wanted by these"}, {"start": "00:41:43", "end": "00:41:48", "text": "intelligence agencies because he already"}, {"start": "00:41:46", "end": "00:41:51", "text": "doesn't like you, already has"}, {"start": "00:41:48", "end": "00:41:53", "text": "significant training, and just needs a"}, {"start": "00:41:51", "end": "00:41:57", "text": "little poke and proddding. That's"}, {"start": "00:41:53", "end": "00:41:59", "text": "covert. is that cuz you know those those"}, {"start": "00:41:57", "end": "00:42:01", "text": "type of psychological tactics"}, {"start": "00:41:59", "end": "00:42:05", "text": "you know is very reminiscent of like MK"}, {"start": "00:42:01", "end": "00:42:06", "text": "Ultra uh type you know behavior as well."}, {"start": "00:42:05", "end": "00:42:10", "text": ">> So I've heard"}, {"start": "00:42:06", "end": "00:42:12", "text": ">> um is is there anything that leads you"}, {"start": "00:42:10", "end": "00:42:15", "text": "to believe"}, {"start": "00:42:12", "end": "00:42:18", "text": "that that is the case or is it a hunch?"}, {"start": "00:42:15", "end": "00:42:19", "text": "No, I know. I I I know with 100%"}, {"start": "00:42:18", "end": "00:42:21", "text": "factual."}, {"start": "00:42:19", "end": "00:42:24", "text": ">> You were told outside of that person"}, {"start": "00:42:21", "end": "00:42:25", "text": "that this is happening by like some"}, {"start": "00:42:24", "end": "00:42:28", "text": "credible."}, {"start": "00:42:25", "end": "00:42:31", "text": ">> So, the answer is yes. But hold on. Let"}, {"start": "00:42:28", "end": "00:42:34", "text": "me process the time dilation and if I"}, {"start": "00:42:31", "end": "00:42:36", "text": "can ever be clear on this."}, {"start": "00:42:34", "end": "00:42:38", "text": ">> Just let's pause the podcast right now."}, {"start": "00:42:36", "end": "00:42:38", "text": "I mean, let's keep rolling, but just let"}, {"start": "00:42:38", "end": "00:42:41", "text": "me pause."}, {"start": "00:42:38", "end": "00:42:43", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "00:42:41", "end": "00:42:46", "text": "I'm going to speak freely but we need to"}, {"start": "00:42:43", "end": "00:42:47", "text": "check if this can be said."}, {"start": "00:42:46", "end": "00:42:49", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "00:42:47", "end": "00:42:50", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:42:49", "end": "00:42:50", "text": ">> You will check that with me?"}, {"start": "00:42:50", "end": "00:42:53", "text": ">> Yeah. 100%."}, {"start": "00:42:50", "end": "00:42:56", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:42:53", "end": "00:42:59", "text": "So, I'll speak freely."}, {"start": "00:42:56", "end": "00:43:01", "text": "Ask my mom."}, {"start": "00:42:59", "end": "00:43:05", "text": "I was told"}, {"start": "00:43:01", "end": "00:43:08", "text": "by an agency. Yeah. they brought a"}, {"start": "00:43:05", "end": "00:43:12", "text": "sincere credible and urgent threat to my"}, {"start": "00:43:08", "end": "00:43:12", "text": "life to me"}, {"start": "00:43:12", "end": "00:43:16", "text": "and so there's there's some I don't want"}, {"start": "00:43:14", "end": "00:43:18", "text": "to reveal certain words because then all"}, {"start": "00:43:16", "end": "00:43:20", "text": "of a sudden that's the agency you can"}, {"start": "00:43:18", "end": "00:43:22", "text": "imagine but so imagine"}, {"start": "00:43:20", "end": "00:43:23", "text": ">> I mean there's not too many agencies"}, {"start": "00:43:22", "end": "00:43:25", "text": "here"}, {"start": "00:43:23", "end": "00:43:29", "text": ">> imagine you have to sit down with your"}, {"start": "00:43:25", "end": "00:43:31", "text": "mom and your wife and because you've had"}, {"start": "00:43:29", "end": "00:43:32", "text": "to move twice because of threats to to"}, {"start": "00:43:31", "end": "00:43:33", "text": "your life"}, {"start": "00:43:32", "end": "00:43:36", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:43:33", "end": "00:43:37", "text": "Most of them overt, some covert, like"}, {"start": "00:43:36", "end": "00:43:39", "text": "moving into my new house and having it"}, {"start": "00:43:37", "end": "00:43:41", "text": "show up in a tabloid"}, {"start": "00:43:39", "end": "00:43:43", "text": ">> called dirt.com."}, {"start": "00:43:41", "end": "00:43:45", "text": ">> Okay. So, um, and only two people know"}, {"start": "00:43:43", "end": "00:43:46", "text": "cuz you bought it in a blind LLC and"}, {"start": "00:43:45", "end": "00:43:48", "text": "those two people over 3 years, you found"}, {"start": "00:43:46", "end": "00:43:50", "text": "out for [ __ ] sure they didn't do it."}, {"start": "00:43:48", "end": "00:43:52", "text": "Then you found out who paid the $300 to"}, {"start": "00:43:50", "end": "00:43:53", "text": "get that ad in there. And that [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:43:52", "end": "00:43:55", "text": "sucks."}, {"start": "00:43:53", "end": "00:43:57", "text": ">> Cuz cuz then you realize America is not"}, {"start": "00:43:55", "end": "00:43:58", "text": "what you thought it was. So, let's reel"}, {"start": "00:43:57", "end": "00:44:00", "text": "it back in."}, {"start": "00:43:58", "end": "00:44:02", "text": ">> So, the person who paid for the ad is a"}, {"start": "00:44:00", "end": "00:44:03", "text": "member of an agency. So, I can't prove"}, {"start": "00:44:02", "end": "00:44:04", "text": "that,"}, {"start": "00:44:03", "end": "00:44:06", "text": ">> right? But that's your hunch."}, {"start": "00:44:04", "end": "00:44:08", "text": ">> I would say I would say I know,"}, {"start": "00:44:06", "end": "00:44:08", "text": ">> but I still can't prove that."}, {"start": "00:44:08", "end": "00:44:10", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:44:08", "end": "00:44:12", "text": ">> Okay. So, but yeah, whatever. It doesn't"}, {"start": "00:44:10", "end": "00:44:13", "text": "matter. Um, but but here's the deal."}, {"start": "00:44:12", "end": "00:44:15", "text": ">> But that's pretty significant."}, {"start": "00:44:13", "end": "00:44:16", "text": ">> Yeah, it's very significant to me in my"}, {"start": "00:44:15", "end": "00:44:18", "text": "understanding of the world."}, {"start": "00:44:16", "end": "00:44:21", "text": ">> But let's get back to the Chris Ramsay"}, {"start": "00:44:18", "end": "00:44:24", "text": "threat and my mom and my wife. So,"}, {"start": "00:44:21", "end": "00:44:27", "text": "you're sitting there and the FBI is"}, {"start": "00:44:24", "end": "00:44:29", "text": "informing you um and you're informing"}, {"start": "00:44:27", "end": "00:44:32", "text": "them, too. But then they sidebar your"}, {"start": "00:44:29", "end": "00:44:34", "text": "mom and they they they take that"}, {"start": "00:44:32", "end": "00:44:36", "text": "opportunity to tell her some truths,"}, {"start": "00:44:34", "end": "00:44:38", "text": "right? They don't want to say it"}, {"start": "00:44:36", "end": "00:44:40", "text": "necessarily right there with me, but"}, {"start": "00:44:38", "end": "00:44:43", "text": "they kind of tell my mom what's up,"}, {"start": "00:44:40", "end": "00:44:45", "text": "right? And the thing is is that they"}, {"start": "00:44:43", "end": "00:44:49", "text": "really can't protect you because if"}, {"start": "00:44:45", "end": "00:44:52", "text": "there is an agency who is covertly"}, {"start": "00:44:49", "end": "00:44:54", "text": "pushing a psychopath to hurt you, Chris,"}, {"start": "00:44:52", "end": "00:44:56", "text": "and you were told that by someone you"}, {"start": "00:44:54", "end": "00:44:58", "text": "trust, meaning an agency that's supposed"}, {"start": "00:44:56", "end": "00:45:01", "text": "to protect you. That's what we're"}, {"start": "00:44:58", "end": "00:45:04", "text": "talking about as far as like covert"}, {"start": "00:45:01", "end": "00:45:07", "text": "using people. That is real. I know that"}, {"start": "00:45:04", "end": "00:45:10", "text": "is real because I have personally"}, {"start": "00:45:07", "end": "00:45:11", "text": "experienced it. But let's talk about the"}, {"start": "00:45:10", "end": "00:45:13", "text": "other witnesses and what's happened to"}, {"start": "00:45:11", "end": "00:45:15", "text": "them. I mean, I don't know where you"}, {"start": "00:45:13", "end": "00:45:17", "text": "want to go with this."}, {"start": "00:45:15", "end": "00:45:20", "text": ">> I mean, am I making sense to you?"}, {"start": "00:45:17", "end": "00:45:23", "text": ">> You're making sense, definitely. And,"}, {"start": "00:45:20", "end": "00:45:26", "text": "you know, I I guess for me it's um"}, {"start": "00:45:23", "end": "00:45:30", "text": "you know, I'm sure many people feel this"}, {"start": "00:45:26", "end": "00:45:31", "text": "way as well. You know, they want they"}, {"start": "00:45:30", "end": "00:45:31", "text": "want specifics,"}, {"start": "00:45:31", "end": "00:45:33", "text": ">> right,"}, {"start": "00:45:31", "end": "00:45:35", "text": ">> when it comes to this stuff. But I also"}, {"start": "00:45:33", "end": "00:45:38", "text": "understand that it gets sensitive around"}, {"start": "00:45:35", "end": "00:45:40", "text": "specifics because you know there are"}, {"start": "00:45:38", "end": "00:45:43", "text": "apparently lives at stake here and and"}, {"start": "00:45:40", "end": "00:45:46", "text": "and more than um you know more lives"}, {"start": "00:45:43", "end": "00:45:47", "text": "than than are publicly even disclosed."}, {"start": "00:45:46", "end": "00:45:49", "text": "And so that's a that's"}, {"start": "00:45:47", "end": "00:45:52", "text": ">> freedom of thought"}, {"start": "00:45:49", "end": "00:45:53", "text": ">> is at stake. Freedom of speech is at"}, {"start": "00:45:52", "end": "00:45:58", "text": "stake."}, {"start": "00:45:53", "end": "00:46:01", "text": ">> Sure. Matthew Brown um his physical life"}, {"start": "00:45:58", "end": "00:46:05", "text": "before he went public oh [ __ ] yeah was"}, {"start": "00:46:01", "end": "00:46:07", "text": "um I would say it was very clear that"}, {"start": "00:46:05", "end": "00:46:07", "text": "that people didn't want him to come"}, {"start": "00:46:07", "end": "00:46:09", "text": "forward."}, {"start": "00:46:07", "end": "00:46:11", "text": ">> So when you say that"}, {"start": "00:46:09", "end": "00:46:13", "text": ">> what do you mean by that? Because when I"}, {"start": "00:46:11", "end": "00:46:14", "text": "hear that I hear that a lot. It was very"}, {"start": "00:46:13", "end": "00:46:16", "text": "clear"}, {"start": "00:46:14", "end": "00:46:18", "text": ">> and in the interview that you released"}, {"start": "00:46:16", "end": "00:46:20", "text": "with Matt in both interviews with George"}, {"start": "00:46:18", "end": "00:46:26", "text": "as well"}, {"start": "00:46:20", "end": "00:46:28", "text": ">> um you it seems to be agreed upon"}, {"start": "00:46:26", "end": "00:46:32", "text": "between the three of you."}, {"start": "00:46:28", "end": "00:46:34", "text": ">> Yeah. that yes, serious things have been"}, {"start": "00:46:32", "end": "00:46:37", "text": "implied and there has been sort of"}, {"start": "00:46:34", "end": "00:46:39", "text": "activity surrounding uh a threatening"}, {"start": "00:46:37", "end": "00:46:42", "text": "nature,"}, {"start": "00:46:39", "end": "00:46:44", "text": "but we're we're always just told that."}, {"start": "00:46:42", "end": "00:46:47", "text": "We're never told the specifics. Is it"}, {"start": "00:46:44", "end": "00:46:51", "text": "because it's dirt? Is it like what is it"}, {"start": "00:46:47", "end": "00:46:52", "text": "that that they that they have that?"}, {"start": "00:46:51", "end": "00:46:54", "text": ">> No, there's no dirt on that."}, {"start": "00:46:52", "end": "00:46:56", "text": ">> No, but what what I'm asking because I"}, {"start": "00:46:54", "end": "00:46:59", "text": "can only assume, right? And and it's"}, {"start": "00:46:56", "end": "00:47:01", "text": "always it always seems like oh they're"}, {"start": "00:46:59", "end": "00:47:03", "text": "definitely threatening but then we never"}, {"start": "00:47:01", "end": "00:47:05", "text": "get to hear like"}, {"start": "00:47:03", "end": "00:47:07", "text": "you know you said they called you and"}, {"start": "00:47:05", "end": "00:47:08", "text": "said we're going to kill you. That I"}, {"start": "00:47:07", "end": "00:47:09", "text": "understand."}, {"start": "00:47:08", "end": "00:47:10", "text": ">> Yeah but that's overt."}, {"start": "00:47:09", "end": "00:47:12", "text": ">> That's as direct as it gets."}, {"start": "00:47:10", "end": "00:47:14", "text": ">> Um but a a kid could do that."}, {"start": "00:47:12", "end": "00:47:17", "text": ">> Yes. But what I'm asking is at what"}, {"start": "00:47:14", "end": "00:47:19", "text": "point does it go from it's actually"}, {"start": "00:47:17", "end": "00:47:21", "text": "happening to"}, {"start": "00:47:19", "end": "00:47:22", "text": "you know from an outsers's perspective"}, {"start": "00:47:21", "end": "00:47:24", "text": "perceived paranoia?"}, {"start": "00:47:22", "end": "00:47:27", "text": ">> Oh no. No. You Yeah. F first of all a"}, {"start": "00:47:24", "end": "00:47:30", "text": "perceived threat is as important as a"}, {"start": "00:47:27", "end": "00:47:31", "text": "real threat because it feels the same."}, {"start": "00:47:30", "end": "00:47:33", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "00:47:31", "end": "00:47:37", "text": ">> Okay. So, so to the person, oh,"}, {"start": "00:47:33", "end": "00:47:39", "text": "absolutely. You need to be"}, {"start": "00:47:37", "end": "00:47:41", "text": "or you're going to get paranoid and you"}, {"start": "00:47:39", "end": "00:47:43", "text": "need to document everything fidiously"}, {"start": "00:47:41", "end": "00:47:45", "text": "and check it with people who are not in"}, {"start": "00:47:43", "end": "00:47:47", "text": "your emotional state like your federal"}, {"start": "00:47:45", "end": "00:47:49", "text": "lawyer. Like for me, it'd be a bunch of"}, {"start": "00:47:47", "end": "00:47:51", "text": "people, right? You also need to have"}, {"start": "00:47:49", "end": "00:47:53", "text": "evidence and proof. And so you and you"}, {"start": "00:47:51", "end": "00:47:55", "text": "have to live that way. And living that"}, {"start": "00:47:53", "end": "00:47:58", "text": "way means that every moment of your"}, {"start": "00:47:55", "end": "00:48:00", "text": "life, unless you choose it to be, is"}, {"start": "00:47:58", "end": "00:48:01", "text": "documented, recorded, audio, video,"}, {"start": "00:48:00", "end": "00:48:03", "text": "pushed up to the cloud, spread out on"}, {"start": "00:48:01", "end": "00:48:05", "text": "servers, encrypted, and then spread out"}, {"start": "00:48:03", "end": "00:48:06", "text": "so anybody could see it if you ever say"}, {"start": "00:48:05", "end": "00:48:08", "text": "so or want them to."}, {"start": "00:48:06", "end": "00:48:11", "text": ">> So you you're saying that you have"}, {"start": "00:48:08", "end": "00:48:11", "text": "threats that are recorded,"}, {"start": "00:48:11", "end": "00:48:13", "text": ">> bro."}, {"start": "00:48:11", "end": "00:48:14", "text": ">> Or that people, you know, have threats."}, {"start": "00:48:13", "end": "00:48:16", "text": ">> Recorded."}, {"start": "00:48:14", "end": "00:48:18", "text": ">> Well, first of all, both. Okay."}, {"start": "00:48:16", "end": "00:48:21", "text": ">> Is the answer. I want to answer your"}, {"start": "00:48:18", "end": "00:48:23", "text": "question. Yeah. Okay. And then let's"}, {"start": "00:48:21", "end": "00:48:27", "text": "move to my movie."}, {"start": "00:48:23", "end": "00:48:31", "text": "So you the movie opens with, if I"}, {"start": "00:48:27", "end": "00:48:32", "text": "recall, with uh a CIA veteran."}, {"start": "00:48:31", "end": "00:48:33", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:48:32", "end": "00:48:35", "text": ">> So let me let me show you the the shape"}, {"start": "00:48:33", "end": "00:48:36", "text": "of the orange cup now, which I said was"}, {"start": "00:48:35", "end": "00:48:37", "text": "CIA. Okay."}, {"start": "00:48:36", "end": "00:48:38", "text": ">> Yeah. Told you you were good at putting"}, {"start": "00:48:37", "end": "00:48:40", "text": "pins in things."}, {"start": "00:48:38", "end": "00:48:41", "text": ">> Well, I have tools. These are all tools"}, {"start": "00:48:40", "end": "00:48:42", "text": "for me to remember."}, {"start": "00:48:41", "end": "00:48:47", "text": ">> You're good at that."}, {"start": "00:48:42", "end": "00:48:49", "text": ">> So my memory is this. Here's CIA. Um, so"}, {"start": "00:48:47", "end": "00:48:51", "text": "CIA,"}, {"start": "00:48:49", "end": "00:48:54", "text": "if you if if you if you meet with them"}, {"start": "00:48:51", "end": "00:48:58", "text": "and you know, first they try to enroll"}, {"start": "00:48:54", "end": "00:49:00", "text": "you as a patriotic uh American. Okay."}, {"start": "00:48:58", "end": "00:49:01", "text": "But you're already enrolled. You're"}, {"start": "00:49:00", "end": "00:49:04", "text": "already like, I am, you know, I'm never"}, {"start": "00:49:01", "end": "00:49:05", "text": "going to hurt our country, you know. Um,"}, {"start": "00:49:04", "end": "00:49:07", "text": "I'm going to do my best and if I [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:49:05", "end": "00:49:08", "text": "up, that's on me, not on you."}, {"start": "00:49:07", "end": "00:49:09", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "00:49:08", "end": "00:49:11", "text": ">> Okay. They don't like that so much. So"}, {"start": "00:49:09", "end": "00:49:14", "text": "then they're like, well, to enroll you,"}, {"start": "00:49:11", "end": "00:49:15", "text": "they want to give you incentive. Okay."}, {"start": "00:49:14", "end": "00:49:18", "text": "So what does that look like? It's"}, {"start": "00:49:15", "end": "00:49:21", "text": "transactional, bro. It's simple. You"}, {"start": "00:49:18", "end": "00:49:22", "text": "know, maybe $10,000 a time. Now, you"}, {"start": "00:49:21", "end": "00:49:24", "text": "have to understand, too, I'm a I'm a"}, {"start": "00:49:22", "end": "00:49:26", "text": "journalist, so I have different rules"}, {"start": "00:49:24", "end": "00:49:29", "text": "that I have to play by, and they have"}, {"start": "00:49:26", "end": "00:49:30", "text": "different rules in order to contact me."}, {"start": "00:49:29", "end": "00:49:32", "text": "So, some some are like there's a"}, {"start": "00:49:30", "end": "00:49:34", "text": "six-month process for one agency."}, {"start": "00:49:32", "end": "00:49:35", "text": "They're supposed to be rules. Okay."}, {"start": "00:49:34", "end": "00:49:36", "text": "Also, CIA ain't supposed to be operating"}, {"start": "00:49:35", "end": "00:49:37", "text": "on American soil."}, {"start": "00:49:36", "end": "00:49:40", "text": ">> No, that's true,"}, {"start": "00:49:37", "end": "00:49:42", "text": ">> right? It is not true, but it is true."}, {"start": "00:49:40", "end": "00:49:43", "text": ">> Yeah, but I mean, that is supposed to be"}, {"start": "00:49:42", "end": "00:49:43", "text": "the NSA."}, {"start": "00:49:43", "end": "00:49:45", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:49:43", "end": "00:49:47", "text": ">> Yeah. you know more than I do. So, here"}, {"start": "00:49:45", "end": "00:49:49", "text": "we go. I mean, I you know, I don't know."}, {"start": "00:49:47", "end": "00:49:52", "text": "I just know that's a fact. So, you know,"}, {"start": "00:49:49", "end": "00:49:55", "text": "the thing is people will get paid just"}, {"start": "00:49:52", "end": "00:49:57", "text": "to go talk to somebody just by like"}, {"start": "00:49:55", "end": "00:49:58", "text": "memorizing the streets of a small town,"}, {"start": "00:49:57", "end": "00:50:00", "text": "right? Like, you know, they'll they'll"}, {"start": "00:49:58", "end": "00:50:02", "text": "tell you we, you know, look, for me, I"}, {"start": "00:50:00", "end": "00:50:03", "text": "don't give a [ __ ] because I get paid x"}, {"start": "00:50:02", "end": "00:50:05", "text": "amount of dollars just to memorize"}, {"start": "00:50:03", "end": "00:50:07", "text": "streets when I'm here, you know? But"}, {"start": "00:50:05", "end": "00:50:09", "text": "when it comes down to money, so CIA is"}, {"start": "00:50:07", "end": "00:50:14", "text": "the most covert. they're the most um I"}, {"start": "00:50:09", "end": "00:50:16", "text": "respect their uh methodologies because"}, {"start": "00:50:14", "end": "00:50:20", "text": "they never fully say what they're saying"}, {"start": "00:50:16", "end": "00:50:22", "text": "until they do. So, at first it's like"}, {"start": "00:50:20", "end": "00:50:24", "text": "enroll you. They they can't enroll you"}, {"start": "00:50:22", "end": "00:50:27", "text": "cuz you're already enrolled. You want to"}, {"start": "00:50:24", "end": "00:50:30", "text": "protect America. You're a patriot. You"}, {"start": "00:50:27", "end": "00:50:32", "text": "live here. Then they'll be like, well,"}, {"start": "00:50:30", "end": "00:50:33", "text": "you know, people get paid. You know,"}, {"start": "00:50:32", "end": "00:50:35", "text": "it's a transactional thing. But you're"}, {"start": "00:50:33", "end": "00:50:37", "text": "like, oh, but I'm I'm a journalist. And"}, {"start": "00:50:35", "end": "00:50:39", "text": "so,"}, {"start": "00:50:37", "end": "00:50:42", "text": "yeah. 100%."}, {"start": "00:50:39", "end": "00:50:43", "text": ">> 100%. And then like, you know, you don't"}, {"start": "00:50:42", "end": "00:50:44", "text": "even let people buy you a beer."}, {"start": "00:50:43", "end": "00:50:47", "text": ">> No. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:50:44", "end": "00:50:49", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:50:47", "end": "00:50:52", "text": "Then"}, {"start": "00:50:49", "end": "00:50:55", "text": "when it gets heavier"}, {"start": "00:50:52", "end": "00:50:58", "text": "and they can't enroll you and they can't"}, {"start": "00:50:55", "end": "00:50:59", "text": "incentivize you, the next thing they can"}, {"start": "00:50:58", "end": "00:51:01", "text": "do"}, {"start": "00:50:59", "end": "00:51:04", "text": "is make you uncomfortable."}, {"start": "00:51:01", "end": "00:51:06", "text": ">> Mhm. So, an example of that would be"}, {"start": "00:51:04", "end": "00:51:09", "text": "um you know, you buy a house in a blind"}, {"start": "00:51:06", "end": "00:51:10", "text": "LLC and then a magazine prints it. Okay?"}, {"start": "00:51:09", "end": "00:51:13", "text": "And there's only two people on planet"}, {"start": "00:51:10", "end": "00:51:15", "text": "Earth that know that you're associated"}, {"start": "00:51:13", "end": "00:51:17", "text": "with this property and you're moving"}, {"start": "00:51:15", "end": "00:51:19", "text": "because of a direct threat that has been"}, {"start": "00:51:17", "end": "00:51:23", "text": "proven to you and you were informed"}, {"start": "00:51:19", "end": "00:51:26", "text": "about that. Then if that doesn't work"}, {"start": "00:51:23", "end": "00:51:29", "text": "then the next thing is hey man we really"}, {"start": "00:51:26", "end": "00:51:32", "text": "want to look out for you and we are"}, {"start": "00:51:29", "end": "00:51:34", "text": "worried that just the bad guys you know"}, {"start": "00:51:32", "end": "00:51:36", "text": "like other foreign nations um"}, {"start": "00:51:34", "end": "00:51:38", "text": "intelligence people you know they might"}, {"start": "00:51:36", "end": "00:51:40", "text": "try to honey trap you man you know they"}, {"start": "00:51:38", "end": "00:51:42", "text": "might try to do this to you that to you"}, {"start": "00:51:40", "end": "00:51:44", "text": "but we you know we can like look out for"}, {"start": "00:51:42", "end": "00:51:47", "text": "you so you know let us know let us know"}, {"start": "00:51:44", "end": "00:51:50", "text": "if something ever occurs like that and"}, {"start": "00:51:47", "end": "00:51:52", "text": "then that [ __ ] they do that does treer"}, {"start": "00:51:50", "end": "00:51:53", "text": "her, you know, people, but you know,"}, {"start": "00:51:52", "end": "00:51:54", "text": "you're on guard. You got friends with"}, {"start": "00:51:53", "end": "00:51:56", "text": "you. You have to live that way. So, you"}, {"start": "00:51:54", "end": "00:51:58", "text": "got they all eyes open. You make a joke."}, {"start": "00:51:56", "end": "00:52:01", "text": "You say it out loud. You [ __ ] my"}, {"start": "00:51:58", "end": "00:52:02", "text": "side. You know, the whole thing. You"}, {"start": "00:52:01", "end": "00:52:04", "text": "didn't read my profile. You have to talk"}, {"start": "00:52:02", "end": "00:52:07", "text": "to me about my dogs first. You making"}, {"start": "00:52:04", "end": "00:52:08", "text": "jokes. Making jokes. So then that's"}, {"start": "00:52:07", "end": "00:52:10", "text": "like, \"Oh, [ __ ] You better report that"}, {"start": "00:52:08", "end": "00:52:12", "text": "to your lawyer.\" Like, you know, just"}, {"start": "00:52:10", "end": "00:52:14", "text": "the fact that someone was was this close"}, {"start": "00:52:12", "end": "00:52:17", "text": "to you. You got to report that to your"}, {"start": "00:52:14", "end": "00:52:18", "text": "lawyer. You'd give that to DOJ, FBI."}, {"start": "00:52:17", "end": "00:52:22", "text": "You'd go like that cuz you want"}, {"start": "00:52:18", "end": "00:52:24", "text": "everybody to know that [ __ ] happened."}, {"start": "00:52:22", "end": "00:52:27", "text": "Now the question is and and they affirm"}, {"start": "00:52:24", "end": "00:52:29", "text": "that that [ __ ] happened. Meaning you"}, {"start": "00:52:27", "end": "00:52:31", "text": "have your friend taking a photo of the"}, {"start": "00:52:29", "end": "00:52:33", "text": "Instagram of the girl when she's talking"}, {"start": "00:52:31", "end": "00:52:35", "text": "to you. So you then look at the"}, {"start": "00:52:33", "end": "00:52:38", "text": "Instagram profile, have her assume name,"}, {"start": "00:52:35", "end": "00:52:39", "text": "pass it on to DOJ. Okay. So all of a"}, {"start": "00:52:38", "end": "00:52:41", "text": "sudden you've got that kind of weird"}, {"start": "00:52:39", "end": "00:52:43", "text": "honey trap thing where it's just"}, {"start": "00:52:41", "end": "00:52:46", "text": "somebody's trying to get to you real"}, {"start": "00:52:43", "end": "00:52:48", "text": "close to you. That seems exhausting"}, {"start": "00:52:46", "end": "00:52:49", "text": ">> for me. Oh, dude, bro, I'm done living"}, {"start": "00:52:48", "end": "00:52:52", "text": "like that."}, {"start": "00:52:49", "end": "00:52:54", "text": ">> So, so that's part of why I told you I'm"}, {"start": "00:52:52", "end": "00:52:57", "text": "gonna be free because I put my cards on"}, {"start": "00:52:54", "end": "00:52:58", "text": "the table, all 52. Chris, I might hold"}, {"start": "00:52:57", "end": "00:52:59", "text": "one,"}, {"start": "00:52:58", "end": "00:53:02", "text": ">> but that card ain't even supposed to be"}, {"start": "00:52:59", "end": "00:53:03", "text": "in the deck."}, {"start": "00:53:02", "end": "00:53:04", "text": ">> That card's right here, Chris."}, {"start": "00:53:03", "end": "00:53:05", "text": ">> H."}, {"start": "00:53:04", "end": "00:53:06", "text": ">> Ah, okay. That one's not supposed to be"}, {"start": "00:53:05", "end": "00:53:08", "text": "in the deck."}, {"start": "00:53:06", "end": "00:53:10", "text": ">> So, now"}, {"start": "00:53:08", "end": "00:53:12", "text": "the next thing that occurs because you"}, {"start": "00:53:10", "end": "00:53:15", "text": "ain't buying that [ __ ] because here's"}, {"start": "00:53:12", "end": "00:53:17", "text": "why. Tell me if you already thought this"}, {"start": "00:53:15", "end": "00:53:19", "text": "because if I can't operate on American"}, {"start": "00:53:17", "end": "00:53:24", "text": "soil,"}, {"start": "00:53:19", "end": "00:53:28", "text": "but MSAD can and does,"}, {"start": "00:53:24", "end": "00:53:30", "text": "then I might ask my friend to send their"}, {"start": "00:53:28", "end": "00:53:30", "text": "girl."}, {"start": "00:53:30", "end": "00:53:31", "text": "You tracking?"}, {"start": "00:53:30", "end": "00:53:34", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:53:31", "end": "00:53:35", "text": ">> Okay, that happens every day. And I'll"}, {"start": "00:53:34", "end": "00:53:36", "text": "finish it with this"}, {"start": "00:53:35", "end": "00:53:39", "text": ">> little honeypotss."}, {"start": "00:53:36", "end": "00:53:41", "text": ">> Not just that, we're talking all types"}, {"start": "00:53:39", "end": "00:53:43", "text": "of actions. So, let me put it to you"}, {"start": "00:53:41", "end": "00:53:45", "text": "like this."}, {"start": "00:53:43", "end": "00:53:49", "text": "There is"}, {"start": "00:53:45", "end": "00:53:54", "text": "an upside down and it is everywhere"}, {"start": "00:53:49", "end": "00:53:57", "text": "around you at all times."}, {"start": "00:53:54", "end": "00:54:01", "text": "And the people that have trained"}, {"start": "00:53:57", "end": "00:54:03", "text": "officially and are part of it know that"}, {"start": "00:54:01", "end": "00:54:08", "text": "it exists. And it is the intelligence"}, {"start": "00:54:03", "end": "00:54:12", "text": "web that is constantly operating at high"}, {"start": "00:54:08", "end": "00:54:13", "text": "speed with time dilation. I mean faster"}, {"start": "00:54:12", "end": "00:54:15", "text": "than you can think."}, {"start": "00:54:13", "end": "00:54:16", "text": ">> Like actually"}, {"start": "00:54:15", "end": "00:54:17", "text": ">> 100%."}, {"start": "00:54:16", "end": "00:54:18", "text": ">> Like when you're saying this, you're not"}, {"start": "00:54:17", "end": "00:54:20", "text": "just speaking in hyperbole."}, {"start": "00:54:18", "end": "00:54:21", "text": ">> No, I'm speaking in hyperbole. There's"}, {"start": "00:54:20", "end": "00:54:23", "text": "no internet under the ground."}, {"start": "00:54:21", "end": "00:54:25", "text": ">> No, but I mean time dilation that."}, {"start": "00:54:23", "end": "00:54:26", "text": ">> No, no, no. I'm not going into weirdo"}, {"start": "00:54:25", "end": "00:54:28", "text": "land. I'm sorry. Whoa. I got to be"}, {"start": "00:54:26", "end": "00:54:28", "text": "careful. I forgot. We're talking UFO"}, {"start": "00:54:28", "end": "00:54:31", "text": "[ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:54:28", "end": "00:54:34", "text": ">> Oh, yeah. I'm 100%"}, {"start": "00:54:31", "end": "00:54:35", "text": "massively invested in weirdo land. So I"}, {"start": "00:54:34", "end": "00:54:38", "text": ">> So if you say if you say they're using"}, {"start": "00:54:35", "end": "00:54:40", "text": "time dilation, I'm I'm pretty convinced"}, {"start": "00:54:38", "end": "00:54:41", "text": "of that fact myself. No, I I have I have"}, {"start": "00:54:40", "end": "00:54:42", "text": "no idea."}, {"start": "00:54:41", "end": "00:54:44", "text": ">> All right, you're not just entertaining"}, {"start": "00:54:42", "end": "00:54:44", "text": "my psychosis here. This is Okay,"}, {"start": "00:54:44", "end": "00:54:47", "text": "perfect."}, {"start": "00:54:44", "end": "00:54:49", "text": ">> I I am outside of the scope of my"}, {"start": "00:54:47", "end": "00:54:51", "text": "knowledge base if I said that. I have I"}, {"start": "00:54:49", "end": "00:54:51", "text": "have a theory base like we were talking"}, {"start": "00:54:51", "end": "00:54:54", "text": "theory right now."}, {"start": "00:54:51", "end": "00:54:56", "text": ">> No, I thought you were gassing up my um"}, {"start": "00:54:54", "end": "00:54:57", "text": "you know, my insane mind right now for a"}, {"start": "00:54:56", "end": "00:54:59", "text": "sec cuz I'm like this is what I want to"}, {"start": "00:54:57", "end": "00:55:01", "text": "talk. Let's talk about time."}, {"start": "00:54:59", "end": "00:55:02", "text": ">> I hope I'm g I hope I'm throwing I hope"}, {"start": "00:55:01", "end": "00:55:03", "text": "you've got a fire burning in your brain"}, {"start": "00:55:02", "end": "00:55:05", "text": "and I'm going to try to put it out with"}, {"start": "00:55:03", "end": "00:55:07", "text": "gasoline right now. But so let's just"}, {"start": "00:55:05", "end": "00:55:08", "text": "finish this because this is way heavier"}, {"start": "00:55:07", "end": "00:55:09", "text": "than I wanted to start with. Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:55:08", "end": "00:55:10", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:55:09", "end": "00:55:12", "text": ">> So I want to like reverse it, you know,"}, {"start": "00:55:10", "end": "00:55:14", "text": "moonwalk from Z to A, but I'll just"}, {"start": "00:55:12", "end": "00:55:16", "text": "finish this. This is what you said the"}, {"start": "00:55:14", "end": "00:55:18", "text": "word hyperbole. Yeah. This is I'm just"}, {"start": "00:55:16", "end": "00:55:21", "text": "explaining that"}, {"start": "00:55:18", "end": "00:55:24", "text": ">> that thank God there is an intelligence"}, {"start": "00:55:21", "end": "00:55:27", "text": "network that is operating at all times."}, {"start": "00:55:24", "end": "00:55:29", "text": "It's the upside down. You don't see it"}, {"start": "00:55:27", "end": "00:55:31", "text": "and it's [ __ ] happening all the time"}, {"start": "00:55:29", "end": "00:55:33", "text": "around you. And the only time it"}, {"start": "00:55:31", "end": "00:55:35", "text": "percolates to the surface or there's a"}, {"start": "00:55:33", "end": "00:55:38", "text": "puncture and you and you see behind that"}, {"start": "00:55:35", "end": "00:55:40", "text": "veil is unfortunately"}, {"start": "00:55:38", "end": "00:55:42", "text": "when you have to go into skiffs when"}, {"start": "00:55:40", "end": "00:55:43", "text": "you've been involved when you've had"}, {"start": "00:55:42", "end": "00:55:45", "text": "what I call badged contact cuz it's"}, {"start": "00:55:43", "end": "00:55:47", "text": "literally badged contact and they read"}, {"start": "00:55:45", "end": "00:55:48", "text": "your profile and they say got to talk"}, {"start": "00:55:47", "end": "00:55:50", "text": "about my dogs. You have to show them a"}, {"start": "00:55:48", "end": "00:55:52", "text": "video. You can't just do that. It has to"}, {"start": "00:55:50", "end": "00:55:54", "text": "be a video and then you could talk to"}, {"start": "00:55:52", "end": "00:55:56", "text": "him because he's a journalist and you"}, {"start": "00:55:54", "end": "00:55:59", "text": "know he probably has a perfect audio"}, {"start": "00:55:56", "end": "00:56:01", "text": "memory that can be transmitted at any"}, {"start": "00:55:59", "end": "00:56:03", "text": "time verbatim. So just know that about"}, {"start": "00:56:01", "end": "00:56:05", "text": "him as well because he always takes"}, {"start": "00:56:03", "end": "00:56:09", "text": "phone calls on speaker phone for the"}, {"start": "00:56:05", "end": "00:56:11", "text": "last uh more than 11 years now and and"}, {"start": "00:56:09", "end": "00:56:15", "text": "and he's always talking on speaker"}, {"start": "00:56:11", "end": "00:56:17", "text": "phone. So just know that about him."}, {"start": "00:56:15", "end": "00:56:20", "text": ">> So that's how you approach, right? So"}, {"start": "00:56:17", "end": "00:56:23", "text": "you have to understand and now you do is"}, {"start": "00:56:20", "end": "00:56:26", "text": "that there is an upside down and thank"}, {"start": "00:56:23", "end": "00:56:31", "text": "god there is and it's so important but"}, {"start": "00:56:26", "end": "00:56:34", "text": "the only time that we as normies see a"}, {"start": "00:56:31", "end": "00:56:35", "text": "penetration or a poke like the the"}, {"start": "00:56:34", "end": "00:56:38", "text": "ancient Greeks used to say stars were"}, {"start": "00:56:35", "end": "00:56:40", "text": "hummingbirds that would poke holes in"}, {"start": "00:56:38", "end": "00:56:42", "text": "the firmament and that's what stars were"}, {"start": "00:56:40", "end": "00:56:45", "text": "right the only time you get to see that"}, {"start": "00:56:42", "end": "00:56:48", "text": "I get to see that is when it's too late"}, {"start": "00:56:45", "end": "00:56:49", "text": "when when you've already crossed the"}, {"start": "00:56:48", "end": "00:56:52", "text": "Rubicon."}, {"start": "00:56:49", "end": "00:56:55", "text": "Otherwise, you have disbelief. You have"}, {"start": "00:56:52", "end": "00:56:56", "text": "the word you said, which is a weapon,"}, {"start": "00:56:55", "end": "00:56:58", "text": "which is paranoia,"}, {"start": "00:56:56", "end": "00:57:01", "text": ">> which I have never been one day in my"}, {"start": "00:56:58", "end": "00:57:01", "text": "life."}, {"start": "00:57:01", "end": "00:57:06", "text": ">> Like the word conspiracy theorist is a"}, {"start": "00:57:04", "end": "00:57:08", "text": "is a dagger. It's a weapon. It's used to"}, {"start": "00:57:06", "end": "00:57:11", "text": "discredit you."}, {"start": "00:57:08", "end": "00:57:13", "text": ">> But we can use those funny terms and we"}, {"start": "00:57:11", "end": "00:57:14", "text": "can make UFOs funny again because they"}, {"start": "00:57:13", "end": "00:57:15", "text": "should be."}, {"start": "00:57:14", "end": "00:57:16", "text": ">> I agree."}, {"start": "00:57:15", "end": "00:57:18", "text": ">> Yeah. So that that's just now that we've"}, {"start": "00:57:16", "end": "00:57:19", "text": "done the heavy thing. Yeah. And you"}, {"start": "00:57:18", "end": "00:57:21", "text": "understand"}, {"start": "00:57:19", "end": "00:57:25", "text": ">> at least that I believe what I'm saying"}, {"start": "00:57:21", "end": "00:57:27", "text": "to be true. Now we can lighten up. We'll"}, {"start": "00:57:25", "end": "00:57:30", "text": "talk about time dilation."}, {"start": "00:57:27", "end": "00:57:33", "text": ">> I mean, yeah, it's Thank you for sharing"}, {"start": "00:57:30", "end": "00:57:34", "text": "all that. And I know I know it's well,"}, {"start": "00:57:33", "end": "00:57:36", "text": "it doesn't seem easy to talk about and"}, {"start": "00:57:34", "end": "00:57:38", "text": "especially, you know, after watching the"}, {"start": "00:57:36", "end": "00:57:41", "text": "movie. Um,"}, {"start": "00:57:38", "end": "00:57:43", "text": "first of all, congratulations"}, {"start": "00:57:41", "end": "00:57:43", "text": "is a weird thing to say."}, {"start": "00:57:43", "end": "00:57:45", "text": ">> Uh, but"}, {"start": "00:57:43", "end": "00:57:45", "text": ">> I didn't make the movie. No, I know. But"}, {"start": "00:57:45", "end": "00:57:47", "text": "the uh"}, {"start": "00:57:45", "end": "00:57:50", "text": ">> Michael Lazoski made the movie."}, {"start": "00:57:47", "end": "00:57:54", "text": ">> Well, the movie is uh really good watch."}, {"start": "00:57:50", "end": "00:57:58", "text": "I I the Yeah, the artistic choices that"}, {"start": "00:57:54", "end": "00:58:01", "text": "he made um were really"}, {"start": "00:57:58", "end": "00:58:02", "text": "in were really appreciated. I"}, {"start": "00:58:01", "end": "00:58:03", "text": "appreciated that."}, {"start": "00:58:02", "end": "00:58:04", "text": ">> You always want facts. You want"}, {"start": "00:58:03", "end": "00:58:07", "text": "specifics like"}, {"start": "00:58:04", "end": "00:58:10", "text": ">> Sure. I feel like in this movie the"}, {"start": "00:58:07", "end": "00:58:12", "text": "focus was more on the in between moments"}, {"start": "00:58:10", "end": "00:58:15", "text": "and the in between moments were put"}, {"start": "00:58:12", "end": "00:58:17", "text": "forward as the main moments and the main"}, {"start": "00:58:15", "end": "00:58:21", "text": "moments were kind of brushed aside"}, {"start": "00:58:17", "end": "00:58:26", "text": ">> and I think that that's a director or"}, {"start": "00:58:21", "end": "00:58:29", "text": "filmmakers approach to trying to find"}, {"start": "00:58:26", "end": "00:58:32", "text": "the authenticity. It is hard going in"}, {"start": "00:58:29", "end": "00:58:35", "text": "front of a camera and being authentic to"}, {"start": "00:58:32", "end": "00:58:36", "text": "say to someone, hey, just be real, be"}, {"start": "00:58:35", "end": "00:58:38", "text": "authentic, be yourself."}, {"start": "00:58:36", "end": "00:58:39", "text": ">> It's never been hard for me."}, {"start": "00:58:38", "end": "00:58:39", "text": ">> No, but I mean in"}, {"start": "00:58:39", "end": "00:58:42", "text": ">> Why is it hard?"}, {"start": "00:58:39", "end": "00:58:44", "text": ">> But in general, it it is hard for people"}, {"start": "00:58:42", "end": "00:58:46", "text": "because people now you're conscious of"}, {"start": "00:58:44", "end": "00:58:48", "text": "the camera and so you become"}, {"start": "00:58:46", "end": "00:58:50", "text": "self-conscious and all of this. So one"}, {"start": "00:58:48", "end": "00:58:53", "text": "of the Yeah. So, a a great way to go"}, {"start": "00:58:50", "end": "00:58:55", "text": "beyond that is, you know, this is"}, {"start": "00:58:53", "end": "00:58:57", "text": "something I had a I had a TV show we did"}, {"start": "00:58:55", "end": "00:59:01", "text": "one season of and I was the executive"}, {"start": "00:58:57", "end": "00:59:04", "text": "producer and the creator of the show and"}, {"start": "00:59:01", "end": "00:59:07", "text": "I remember we were doing some sort of"}, {"start": "00:59:04", "end": "00:59:10", "text": "hidden camera stuff because we wanted"}, {"start": "00:59:07", "end": "00:59:12", "text": "people to not hidden camera but we"}, {"start": "00:59:10", "end": "00:59:14", "text": "wanted people to act naturally with"}, {"start": "00:59:12", "end": "00:59:17", "text": "cameras around."}, {"start": "00:59:14", "end": "00:59:19", "text": ">> Act naturally. Actually, the hilarious"}, {"start": "00:59:17", "end": "00:59:20", "text": ">> you know that. Exactly. It is. It is."}, {"start": "00:59:19", "end": "00:59:20", "text": ">> You can't be acting. You just have to be"}, {"start": "00:59:20", "end": "00:59:22", "text": "natural."}, {"start": "00:59:20", "end": "00:59:24", "text": ">> No, it is contradictory, but just sort"}, {"start": "00:59:22", "end": "00:59:26", "text": "of, you know, that term, just act"}, {"start": "00:59:24", "end": "00:59:27", "text": "natural. Um, which is hard for people to"}, {"start": "00:59:26", "end": "00:59:28", "text": "do if they're cognizant, if the camera's"}, {"start": "00:59:27", "end": "00:59:31", "text": "around. So, what we would do is, uh, the"}, {"start": "00:59:28", "end": "00:59:34", "text": "camera would be filming. And we noticed"}, {"start": "00:59:31", "end": "00:59:36", "text": "as soon as people yelled, uh, cut,"}, {"start": "00:59:34", "end": "00:59:38", "text": ">> everyone would relax and then they'd be"}, {"start": "00:59:36", "end": "00:59:40", "text": "themselves."}, {"start": "00:59:38", "end": "00:59:41", "text": ">> And so, we had a code word for cut."}, {"start": "00:59:40", "end": "00:59:42", "text": ">> Instead of being someone else, you had a"}, {"start": "00:59:41", "end": "00:59:44", "text": "code word for cut."}, {"start": "00:59:42", "end": "00:59:46", "text": ">> So, we had we had a code word for cut."}, {"start": "00:59:44", "end": "00:59:49", "text": "So, when we said cut, it wasn't cut. It"}, {"start": "00:59:46", "end": "00:59:51", "text": "was cameraman relax and look away while"}, {"start": "00:59:49", "end": "00:59:52", "text": "he's still filming. And then we get the"}, {"start": "00:59:51", "end": "00:59:53", "text": "real moments because a lot of the"}, {"start": "00:59:52", "end": "00:59:55", "text": "moments we were like, \"What did you can"}, {"start": "00:59:53", "end": "00:59:56", "text": "you describe what happened in that magic"}, {"start": "00:59:55", "end": "00:59:57", "text": "trick?\" And if the camera's there, they"}, {"start": "00:59:56", "end": "01:00:00", "text": "go,"}, {"start": "00:59:57", "end": "01:00:03", "text": ">> \"Uh, it was great."}, {"start": "01:00:00", "end": "01:00:05", "text": ">> Uh, so wow, it was amazing.\" You know,"}, {"start": "01:00:03", "end": "01:00:07", "text": "and then we're like, \"We can't use that."}, {"start": "01:00:05", "end": "01:00:08", "text": "We need authenticity.\" And so we go,"}, {"start": "01:00:07", "end": "01:00:10", "text": "\"All right, we got it cut.\" And then we"}, {"start": "01:00:08", "end": "01:00:12", "text": "go like, \"Wasn't that crazy?\" They go,"}, {"start": "01:00:10", "end": "01:00:14", "text": "\"OH MY GOD, THAT WAS so insane.\" and"}, {"start": "01:00:12", "end": "01:00:17", "text": "they'd open up while we're filming sort"}, {"start": "01:00:14", "end": "01:00:20", "text": "of slouched. And so what I'm trying to"}, {"start": "01:00:17", "end": "01:00:22", "text": "say with this is during this there were"}, {"start": "01:00:20", "end": "01:00:24", "text": "a lot of moments where you know there's"}, {"start": "01:00:22", "end": "01:00:25", "text": "a moment where you got very emotional"}, {"start": "01:00:24", "end": "01:00:27", "text": "where you're like"}, {"start": "01:00:25", "end": "01:00:28", "text": ">> you said that's okay years ago to me."}, {"start": "01:00:27", "end": "01:00:30", "text": ">> I did and you were like cut this out"}, {"start": "01:00:28", "end": "01:00:31", "text": "[ __ ] You left and you left the"}, {"start": "01:00:30", "end": "01:00:33", "text": "room."}, {"start": "01:00:31", "end": "01:00:35", "text": ">> No in the to me and in this movie. Um"}, {"start": "01:00:33", "end": "01:00:36", "text": ">> and he left that in the movie. Of course"}, {"start": "01:00:35", "end": "01:00:39", "text": "he [ __ ] did"}, {"start": "01:00:36", "end": "01:00:41", "text": ">> me with TMZ too [ __ ] But I also"}, {"start": "01:00:39", "end": "01:00:42", "text": "think that like aside from that, there"}, {"start": "01:00:41", "end": "01:00:43", "text": "was also those in between moments with"}, {"start": "01:00:42", "end": "01:00:44", "text": "John"}, {"start": "01:00:43", "end": "01:00:47", "text": ">> Lear. Hold on. I said [ __ ] in a good"}, {"start": "01:00:44", "end": "01:00:48", "text": "way. Like I love you, Ryan at TM. You"}, {"start": "01:00:47", "end": "01:00:49", "text": "left it in even though I was like, are"}, {"start": "01:00:48", "end": "01:00:50", "text": "you sure you want? So what happened with"}, {"start": "01:00:49", "end": "01:00:51", "text": "John Le?"}, {"start": "01:00:50", "end": "01:00:53", "text": ">> Yeah, with John Leer, it was much of the"}, {"start": "01:00:51", "end": "01:00:57", "text": "same. First of all, I didn't realize how"}, {"start": "01:00:53", "end": "01:00:59", "text": "much John Leer enjoys eating until"}, {"start": "01:00:57", "end": "01:01:02", "text": ">> we cut out 90% of that."}, {"start": "01:00:59", "end": "01:01:04", "text": ">> Every scene was he was stuffing his face"}, {"start": "01:01:02", "end": "01:01:06", "text": "with something. It was unbelievable. He"}, {"start": "01:01:04", "end": "01:01:08", "text": "was either smoking a cigar or or eating."}, {"start": "01:01:06", "end": "01:01:10", "text": "And he was always when he's eating, he's"}, {"start": "01:01:08", "end": "01:01:12", "text": "so consumed by what he's eating. He's"}, {"start": "01:01:10", "end": "01:01:14", "text": "just like and he's and and he's"}, {"start": "01:01:12", "end": "01:01:16", "text": "listening half listening. He's like and"}, {"start": "01:01:14", "end": "01:01:18", "text": "just back to back to food."}, {"start": "01:01:16", "end": "01:01:20", "text": ">> Did it capture the movie? Did you see a"}, {"start": "01:01:18", "end": "01:01:21", "text": "glimpse of his laughter?"}, {"start": "01:01:20", "end": "01:01:22", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah,"}, {"start": "01:01:21", "end": "01:01:26", "text": ">> you did. Okay."}, {"start": "01:01:22", "end": "01:01:28", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. Especially Especially when"}, {"start": "01:01:26", "end": "01:01:28", "text": "um when he was asked"}, {"start": "01:01:28", "end": "01:01:29", "text": ">> um"}, {"start": "01:01:28", "end": "01:01:31", "text": ">> do you think you're nuts?"}, {"start": "01:01:29", "end": "01:01:33", "text": ">> Do you think you're crazy? You know, and"}, {"start": "01:01:31", "end": "01:01:34", "text": "Yeah. Do you think you're nuts?"}, {"start": "01:01:33", "end": "01:01:36", "text": ">> Warm nuts."}, {"start": "01:01:34", "end": "01:01:38", "text": ">> Exactly. And he kind of brushed it off"}, {"start": "01:01:36", "end": "01:01:39", "text": "and he's like, \"No.\" He's like, \"I know"}, {"start": "01:01:38", "end": "01:01:40", "text": "these things to be real.\" He's like,"}, {"start": "01:01:39", "end": "01:01:42", "text": "\"Other people might think I'm nuts.\""}, {"start": "01:01:40", "end": "01:01:44", "text": ">> He didn't brush it off. He said with"}, {"start": "01:01:42", "end": "01:01:44", "text": "absolute like pity on me."}, {"start": "01:01:44", "end": "01:01:45", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:01:44", "end": "01:01:45", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "01:01:45", "end": "01:01:46", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:01:45", "end": "01:01:46", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "01:01:46", "end": "01:01:48", "text": ">> Yeah. To him."}, {"start": "01:01:46", "end": "01:01:49", "text": ">> No. But there's there's another laugh."}, {"start": "01:01:48", "end": "01:01:51", "text": "There's another laugh that he gets. And"}, {"start": "01:01:49", "end": "01:01:53", "text": "I I don't know if Michael put it in his"}, {"start": "01:01:51", "end": "01:01:54", "text": "movie. But let's let's myopic this for a"}, {"start": "01:01:53", "end": "01:01:56", "text": "second. Let's split a hair. Um let's"}, {"start": "01:01:54", "end": "01:01:57", "text": "talk about Michael for one second"}, {"start": "01:01:56", "end": "01:01:58", "text": "because I've never been able to talk"}, {"start": "01:01:57", "end": "01:02:00", "text": "about this movie because it hasn't come"}, {"start": "01:01:58", "end": "01:02:02", "text": "out yet. This is the first time that I'm"}, {"start": "01:02:00", "end": "01:02:03", "text": "talking about this movie and I don't"}, {"start": "01:02:02", "end": "01:02:04", "text": "know if I'm ever going to talk about"}, {"start": "01:02:03", "end": "01:02:06", "text": "this movie again."}, {"start": "01:02:04", "end": "01:02:08", "text": ">> So, I want to talk about this movie and"}, {"start": "01:02:06", "end": "01:02:09", "text": "about Michael. Okay."}, {"start": "01:02:08", "end": "01:02:11", "text": ">> Um, one other thing you said that I put"}, {"start": "01:02:09", "end": "01:02:13", "text": "a mental pin in I want to come back to."}, {"start": "01:02:11", "end": "01:02:16", "text": "But,"}, {"start": "01:02:13", "end": "01:02:16", "text": ">> so, Michael Lzovski,"}, {"start": "01:02:17", "end": "01:02:22", "text": "about being natural. Um, so I wanted to"}, {"start": "01:02:20", "end": "01:02:25", "text": "ask you a question about being natural."}, {"start": "01:02:22", "end": "01:02:27", "text": "I learned something about a camera and I"}, {"start": "01:02:25", "end": "01:02:28", "text": "think that's what allowed me to never"}, {"start": "01:02:27", "end": "01:02:32", "text": "fear them"}, {"start": "01:02:28", "end": "01:02:33", "text": ">> or never know just decline to admit them"}, {"start": "01:02:32", "end": "01:02:37", "text": "their existence"}, {"start": "01:02:33", "end": "01:02:39", "text": ">> because I do and and you know me and I"}, {"start": "01:02:37", "end": "01:02:40", "text": "have a purpose and I use the camera like"}, {"start": "01:02:39", "end": "01:02:44", "text": "a weapon. So if I go on a new show I use"}, {"start": "01:02:40", "end": "01:02:46", "text": "that time like a weapon and then I know"}, {"start": "01:02:44", "end": "01:02:48", "text": "the camera's going or whatever but it's"}, {"start": "01:02:46", "end": "01:02:49", "text": "never about the camera and there's a"}, {"start": "01:02:48", "end": "01:02:51", "text": "reason why. There's a reason how I got"}, {"start": "01:02:49", "end": "01:02:55", "text": "there and I want to tell you that. But"}, {"start": "01:02:51", "end": "01:02:58", "text": "first quick question. Why do you think"}, {"start": "01:02:55", "end": "01:03:01", "text": "that a camera inhibits"}, {"start": "01:02:58", "end": "01:03:02", "text": "acting normally or whatever the word you"}, {"start": "01:03:01", "end": "01:03:02", "text": "said was acting?"}, {"start": "01:03:02", "end": "01:03:03", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:03:02", "end": "01:03:04", "text": ">> Why"}, {"start": "01:03:03", "end": "01:03:06", "text": ">> authentically rather than just being"}, {"start": "01:03:04", "end": "01:03:06", "text": "with it? Why does that lens do that to"}, {"start": "01:03:06", "end": "01:03:08", "text": "people?"}, {"start": "01:03:06", "end": "01:03:09", "text": ">> Because you become self-aware."}, {"start": "01:03:08", "end": "01:03:11", "text": ">> Why is that a problem?"}, {"start": "01:03:09", "end": "01:03:14", "text": ">> Well, it's it's it's only it's only a"}, {"start": "01:03:11", "end": "01:03:15", "text": "problem for people who are afraid of how"}, {"start": "01:03:14", "end": "01:03:16", "text": "they're being perceived."}, {"start": "01:03:15", "end": "01:03:17", "text": ">> Exactly."}, {"start": "01:03:16", "end": "01:03:22", "text": ">> Yeah. So if you're"}, {"start": "01:03:17", "end": "01:03:23", "text": ">> why do we why do we have fear about the"}, {"start": "01:03:22", "end": "01:03:25", "text": "way we're perceived?"}, {"start": "01:03:23", "end": "01:03:26", "text": ">> It's fear of not being loved."}, {"start": "01:03:25", "end": "01:03:31", "text": ">> Okay, hold on. Give me a my brain a"}, {"start": "01:03:26", "end": "01:03:31", "text": "second. Fear of not being loved."}, {"start": "01:03:31", "end": "01:03:40", "text": "Okay. Is it also fear? So yes. And is it"}, {"start": "01:03:35", "end": "01:03:41", "text": "also fear of being hated and ridiculed?"}, {"start": "01:03:40", "end": "01:03:42", "text": ">> Same. The one and the same. I consider"}, {"start": "01:03:41", "end": "01:03:43", "text": "the same thing. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:03:42", "end": "01:03:44", "text": ">> Okay. So we're saying the same thing."}, {"start": "01:03:43", "end": "01:03:46", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:03:44", "end": "01:03:46", "text": ">> So agreed. Now we can move on."}, {"start": "01:03:46", "end": "01:03:50", "text": ">> Yeah. Okay."}, {"start": "01:03:46", "end": "01:03:52", "text": ">> Um, so I mean that was a really nice"}, {"start": "01:03:50", "end": "01:03:54", "text": "thing to watch unfold is these in"}, {"start": "01:03:52", "end": "01:03:57", "text": "between moments. There's a moment where"}, {"start": "01:03:54", "end": "01:03:57", "text": "John Le's stuck in the kitchen with his"}, {"start": "01:03:57", "end": "01:03:58", "text": "wheelchair."}, {"start": "01:03:57", "end": "01:04:00", "text": ">> I got to get this out of my head and"}, {"start": "01:03:58", "end": "01:04:03", "text": "then you go on with the wheelchair."}, {"start": "01:04:00", "end": "01:04:03", "text": ">> So the reason why I don't fear the"}, {"start": "01:04:03", "end": "01:04:04", "text": "camera."}, {"start": "01:04:03", "end": "01:04:07", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "01:04:04", "end": "01:04:10", "text": ">> Is because I learned from the first time"}, {"start": "01:04:07", "end": "01:04:13", "text": "I pointed it at somebody that in fact"}, {"start": "01:04:10", "end": "01:04:16", "text": "the opposite is true. that sometimes"}, {"start": "01:04:13", "end": "01:04:18", "text": "when you put a camera on someone, if"}, {"start": "01:04:16", "end": "01:04:20", "text": "it's that kind of person, it's like a"}, {"start": "01:04:18", "end": "01:04:23", "text": "pressure valve. The first time I opened"}, {"start": "01:04:20", "end": "01:04:25", "text": "a camera on someone, they told me [ __ ]"}, {"start": "01:04:23", "end": "01:04:28", "text": "that they had never even told their wife"}, {"start": "01:04:25", "end": "01:04:30", "text": "or their family. So, my experience with"}, {"start": "01:04:28", "end": "01:04:33", "text": "a camera started for me on this end of"}, {"start": "01:04:30", "end": "01:04:36", "text": "it. And I realized that that's the kind"}, {"start": "01:04:33", "end": "01:04:39", "text": "of person that I want to interview cuz"}, {"start": "01:04:36", "end": "01:04:41", "text": "I'm learning the stuff that is not"}, {"start": "01:04:39", "end": "01:04:43", "text": "supposed to be said or they felt it"}, {"start": "01:04:41", "end": "01:04:43", "text": "wasn't. And it was like healing."}, {"start": "01:04:43", "end": "01:04:46", "text": ">> It was cathartic."}, {"start": "01:04:43", "end": "01:04:48", "text": ">> And I I put that in a little box and I"}, {"start": "01:04:46", "end": "01:04:49", "text": "buried it under the ground and and that"}, {"start": "01:04:48", "end": "01:04:50", "text": "person knows because I"}, {"start": "01:04:49", "end": "01:04:51", "text": ">> hyperbole."}, {"start": "01:04:50", "end": "01:04:52", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "01:04:51", "end": "01:04:53", "text": ">> Really?"}, {"start": "01:04:52", "end": "01:04:55", "text": ">> You really buried it?"}, {"start": "01:04:53", "end": "01:04:56", "text": ">> I I buried [ __ ] my whole life."}, {"start": "01:04:55", "end": "01:04:57", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "01:04:56", "end": "01:04:59", "text": ">> I'm just making sure"}, {"start": "01:04:57", "end": "01:05:00", "text": ">> it's in the [ __ ] movie. Did you"}, {"start": "01:04:59", "end": "01:05:01", "text": "finish the movie?"}, {"start": "01:05:00", "end": "01:05:02", "text": ">> Yes. But that's what I'm wondering if"}, {"start": "01:05:01", "end": "01:05:05", "text": "you're are you referring to that as like"}, {"start": "01:05:02", "end": "01:05:07", "text": "a hyperbolic sort of anecdote or are you"}, {"start": "01:05:05", "end": "01:05:07", "text": "actually saying this is another thing I"}, {"start": "01:05:07", "end": "01:05:09", "text": "buried?"}, {"start": "01:05:07", "end": "01:05:11", "text": ">> You're in Alice in Wonderland now and"}, {"start": "01:05:09", "end": "01:05:14", "text": "there's no hope. Okay. Remember Le said"}, {"start": "01:05:11", "end": "01:05:18", "text": "that. So here's the deal with that is"}, {"start": "01:05:14", "end": "01:05:20", "text": "that healing thing and my being on this"}, {"start": "01:05:18", "end": "01:05:22", "text": "side. I realized this camera is a"}, {"start": "01:05:20", "end": "01:05:25", "text": "passport. But I also realized that you"}, {"start": "01:05:22", "end": "01:05:27", "text": "have to act. The trick to being trusted"}, {"start": "01:05:25", "end": "01:05:30", "text": "is to actually be trustworthy. The only"}, {"start": "01:05:27", "end": "01:05:31", "text": "problem with trust is it doesn't end"}, {"start": "01:05:30", "end": "01:05:33", "text": "once somebody trusts you. You have to"}, {"start": "01:05:31", "end": "01:05:35", "text": "continuously reinforce, prove it, show"}, {"start": "01:05:33", "end": "01:05:37", "text": "the receipts, and maintain it. If you"}, {"start": "01:05:35", "end": "01:05:38", "text": "want a high level of trust, that's why I"}, {"start": "01:05:37", "end": "01:05:40", "text": "always tell people if something I say"}, {"start": "01:05:38", "end": "01:05:42", "text": "sounds too fantastic, well, ask me right"}, {"start": "01:05:40", "end": "01:05:44", "text": "now. No preparation and I will give you"}, {"start": "01:05:42", "end": "01:05:45", "text": "I'll show you the receipt. But I brought"}, {"start": "01:05:44", "end": "01:05:48", "text": "I brought a different phone so I can't."}, {"start": "01:05:45", "end": "01:05:49", "text": "But anyway, that is me and my friends,"}, {"start": "01:05:48", "end": "01:05:51", "text": "we have this joke. We're all receipt."}, {"start": "01:05:49", "end": "01:05:54", "text": "And it's not cuz we don't believe each"}, {"start": "01:05:51", "end": "01:05:56", "text": "other. It's because we need to know it's"}, {"start": "01:05:54", "end": "01:05:58", "text": "true. Um it needs to be reinforced. Like"}, {"start": "01:05:56", "end": "01:06:01", "text": "if if if miracles happen, Chris, and"}, {"start": "01:05:58", "end": "01:06:03", "text": "there was over 200 miracles and you know"}, {"start": "01:06:01", "end": "01:06:06", "text": "cuz you've had your own miracle in"}, {"start": "01:06:03", "end": "01:06:08", "text": "magic, but you know that there's impact"}, {"start": "01:06:06", "end": "01:06:09", "text": "in the receipts, you would collect those"}, {"start": "01:06:08", "end": "01:06:11", "text": "and you would create a book and you"}, {"start": "01:06:09", "end": "01:06:14", "text": "would tell the world. So what what I'm"}, {"start": "01:06:11", "end": "01:06:16", "text": "trying to say is that that relationship"}, {"start": "01:06:14", "end": "01:06:18", "text": "that I had to a camera and then where I"}, {"start": "01:06:16", "end": "01:06:20", "text": "said and I showed trust over and over"}, {"start": "01:06:18", "end": "01:06:22", "text": "and I buried it and I buried it and I"}, {"start": "01:06:20", "end": "01:06:25", "text": "buried it uh both hyperbole and not"}, {"start": "01:06:22", "end": "01:06:27", "text": "hyperbole at that time. Um, what happens"}, {"start": "01:06:25", "end": "01:06:30", "text": "is that gets around. So when I kept"}, {"start": "01:06:27", "end": "01:06:33", "text": "Commander Fraver's secret, when I could"}, {"start": "01:06:30", "end": "01:06:35", "text": "have been the person to break that story"}, {"start": "01:06:33", "end": "01:06:37", "text": "in the big scale and everybody,"}, {"start": "01:06:35", "end": "01:06:39", "text": "including Fraver, started telling"}, {"start": "01:06:37", "end": "01:06:42", "text": "everybody that kid kept my [ __ ]"}, {"start": "01:06:39", "end": "01:06:43", "text": "secret, that spreads like a virus where"}, {"start": "01:06:42", "end": "01:06:45", "text": "all of a sudden everybody's got a"}, {"start": "01:06:43", "end": "01:06:47", "text": "contagion and that spreads. and it's"}, {"start": "01:06:45", "end": "01:06:49", "text": "that this guy can keep his mouth shut"}, {"start": "01:06:47", "end": "01:06:52", "text": "because the biggest part of telling"}, {"start": "01:06:49", "end": "01:06:54", "text": "secrets is knowing how functionally and"}, {"start": "01:06:52", "end": "01:06:56", "text": "when to keep them. So now with the"}, {"start": "01:06:54", "end": "01:06:59", "text": "camera situation sorted that we've just"}, {"start": "01:06:56", "end": "01:07:01", "text": "sorted here on Area 52, you know, I"}, {"start": "01:06:59", "end": "01:07:02", "text": "think that you should feel authentic in"}, {"start": "01:07:01", "end": "01:07:04", "text": "front of a camera and if you don't don't"}, {"start": "01:07:02", "end": "01:07:06", "text": "get in front of one"}, {"start": "01:07:04", "end": "01:07:06", "text": ">> because you can never take that back."}, {"start": "01:07:06", "end": "01:07:07", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "01:07:06", "end": "01:07:08", "text": ">> That is something you can never take"}, {"start": "01:07:07", "end": "01:07:10", "text": "back."}, {"start": "01:07:08", "end": "01:07:11", "text": ">> So anyway, with that said, now go back"}, {"start": "01:07:10", "end": "01:07:14", "text": "to your saying a funny moment there."}, {"start": "01:07:11", "end": "01:07:16", "text": "Well, I mean that's an interesting you"}, {"start": "01:07:14", "end": "01:07:19", "text": "provide an interesting perspective I"}, {"start": "01:07:16", "end": "01:07:22", "text": "think into your personality as well"}, {"start": "01:07:19", "end": "01:07:26", "text": "because all you know you're clearly"}, {"start": "01:07:22", "end": "01:07:30", "text": "someone who"}, {"start": "01:07:26", "end": "01:07:32", "text": "has an ability to you have the gift of"}, {"start": "01:07:30", "end": "01:07:34", "text": "gab whether you think so or not. You"}, {"start": "01:07:32", "end": "01:07:37", "text": "have the ability to tell a story in a"}, {"start": "01:07:34", "end": "01:07:41", "text": "very entertaining manner in a cadence"}, {"start": "01:07:37", "end": "01:07:43", "text": "that demands people's attention. It's a,"}, {"start": "01:07:41", "end": "01:07:47", "text": "you know, when you speak, you have this"}, {"start": "01:07:43", "end": "01:07:47", "text": "rare ability where people lean in. They"}, {"start": "01:07:47", "end": "01:07:48", "text": "do."}, {"start": "01:07:47", "end": "01:07:50", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "01:07:48", "end": "01:07:51", "text": ">> And"}, {"start": "01:07:50", "end": "01:07:53", "text": "some people, and this is for the people"}, {"start": "01:07:51", "end": "01:07:55", "text": "out there listening, some people might"}, {"start": "01:07:53", "end": "01:07:57", "text": "think that's only for the camera because"}, {"start": "01:07:55", "end": "01:07:57", "text": "it's the only time you get to see Jeremy"}, {"start": "01:07:57", "end": "01:07:58", "text": "Corbel."}, {"start": "01:07:57", "end": "01:08:00", "text": ">> Gotcha."}, {"start": "01:07:58", "end": "01:08:02", "text": ">> Uh, but I've seen Jeremy Corbel without"}, {"start": "01:08:00", "end": "01:08:05", "text": "the camera. And I think everybody who"}, {"start": "01:08:02", "end": "01:08:06", "text": "has met Jeremy outside of camera"}, {"start": "01:08:05", "end": "01:08:06", "text": "understands that you're the exact same"}, {"start": "01:08:06", "end": "01:08:10", "text": "person."}, {"start": "01:08:06", "end": "01:08:12", "text": ">> Yeah. This is you off camera, too. Um,"}, {"start": "01:08:10", "end": "01:08:13", "text": "but it might be mistaken for a lot of"}, {"start": "01:08:12", "end": "01:08:16", "text": "people to think, \"Oh, this guy's being"}, {"start": "01:08:13", "end": "01:08:18", "text": "insincere. He's playing a part.\" No,"}, {"start": "01:08:16", "end": "01:08:19", "text": "that's Jeremy. Jeremy's being who he is"}, {"start": "01:08:18", "end": "01:08:21", "text": "on and off camera."}, {"start": "01:08:19", "end": "01:08:23", "text": ">> I can't be I have not been able to be"}, {"start": "01:08:21", "end": "01:08:25", "text": "someone other than myself."}, {"start": "01:08:23", "end": "01:08:26", "text": ">> I can confirm that since I've known you,"}, {"start": "01:08:25", "end": "01:08:28", "text": "like that's that's been who you are. And"}, {"start": "01:08:26", "end": "01:08:29", "text": "it's it's a quirk that I've come to"}, {"start": "01:08:28", "end": "01:08:30", "text": "appreciate."}, {"start": "01:08:29", "end": "01:08:31", "text": ">> It's a quirk."}, {"start": "01:08:30", "end": "01:08:32", "text": ">> It is a quirk."}, {"start": "01:08:31", "end": "01:08:34", "text": ">> Oh my lord. This is too much"}, {"start": "01:08:32", "end": "01:08:36", "text": "self-reflection."}, {"start": "01:08:34", "end": "01:08:38", "text": "I have to watch your podcast."}, {"start": "01:08:36", "end": "01:08:40", "text": ">> Defin you definitely have quirks. But"}, {"start": "01:08:38", "end": "01:08:42", "text": "you know it's an endearing quality I"}, {"start": "01:08:40", "end": "01:08:45", "text": "think in my in my eyes. Um but"}, {"start": "01:08:42", "end": "01:08:49", "text": "regardless there is enough of me glazing"}, {"start": "01:08:45", "end": "01:08:54", "text": "you here. There's uh there is there is a"}, {"start": "01:08:49", "end": "01:08:56", "text": "there is a a very endearing quality to"}, {"start": "01:08:54", "end": "01:08:58", "text": "this documentary regardless of like you"}, {"start": "01:08:56", "end": "01:09:00", "text": "know we spoke about this before I"}, {"start": "01:08:58", "end": "01:09:02", "text": "watched it. You're like, you said"}, {"start": "01:09:00", "end": "01:09:04", "text": "something to the effect of the first"}, {"start": "01:09:02", "end": "01:09:07", "text": "hour is just so you know who I am kind"}, {"start": "01:09:04", "end": "01:09:09", "text": "of deal and then the last half hour is"}, {"start": "01:09:07", "end": "01:09:10", "text": "like that's that's the stuff."}, {"start": "01:09:09", "end": "01:09:13", "text": ">> That's what I think. I didn't make the"}, {"start": "01:09:10", "end": "01:09:14", "text": "movie, but when I had to watch it and"}, {"start": "01:09:13", "end": "01:09:15", "text": "endure it."}, {"start": "01:09:14", "end": "01:09:16", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:09:15", "end": "01:09:18", "text": ">> You know,"}, {"start": "01:09:16", "end": "01:09:20", "text": "I felt like and you should ask Michael."}, {"start": "01:09:18", "end": "01:09:23", "text": "[ __ ] Michael is the one that made it."}, {"start": "01:09:20", "end": "01:09:25", "text": "But like it felt to me like he was just"}, {"start": "01:09:23", "end": "01:09:27", "text": "trying to make sure people understood"}, {"start": "01:09:25", "end": "01:09:28", "text": "that I mean what I say and I say what I"}, {"start": "01:09:27", "end": "01:09:30", "text": "mean and that I'm worthy of your trust."}, {"start": "01:09:28", "end": "01:09:33", "text": "I'm trustworthy."}, {"start": "01:09:30", "end": "01:09:37", "text": "And then I realized that towards the end"}, {"start": "01:09:33", "end": "01:09:38", "text": "he shows you some [ __ ] and I think it's"}, {"start": "01:09:37", "end": "01:09:39", "text": "important and I think that's why he set"}, {"start": "01:09:38", "end": "01:09:40", "text": "up the movie like that. You're going to"}, {"start": "01:09:39", "end": "01:09:42", "text": "have to ask him"}, {"start": "01:09:40", "end": "01:09:42", "text": ">> because for me I don't have the same"}, {"start": "01:09:42", "end": "01:09:44", "text": "experience."}, {"start": "01:09:42", "end": "01:09:47", "text": ">> Yeah. There's there's there's a few like"}, {"start": "01:09:44", "end": "01:09:49", "text": "really interesting uh artistic choices"}, {"start": "01:09:47", "end": "01:09:50", "text": "as well. The lighting, the music like"}, {"start": "01:09:49", "end": "01:09:53", "text": ">> Okay. So, let's pick one. So, like I"}, {"start": "01:09:50", "end": "01:09:54", "text": "noticed the hands, right? So, at one"}, {"start": "01:09:53", "end": "01:09:56", "text": "point,"}, {"start": "01:09:54", "end": "01:09:58", "text": ">> um I throw my hands up as a young kid"}, {"start": "01:09:56", "end": "01:09:59", "text": ">> and he cuts immediately to the same"}, {"start": "01:09:58", "end": "01:10:01", "text": "position and I was like I was like,"}, {"start": "01:09:59", "end": "01:10:02", "text": "\"What did I just see?\" And I'm like,"}, {"start": "01:10:01", "end": "01:10:04", "text": "\"Shit, that kid's like putting some"}, {"start": "01:10:02", "end": "01:10:06", "text": "stuff in there."}, {"start": "01:10:04", "end": "01:10:06", "text": ">> A lot of footage to sift through to find"}, {"start": "01:10:06", "end": "01:10:09", "text": "that,"}, {"start": "01:10:06", "end": "01:10:11", "text": ">> too. He's a master filmmaker.\" And"}, {"start": "01:10:09", "end": "01:10:13", "text": "that's what I realized. He's a I've been"}, {"start": "01:10:11", "end": "01:10:14", "text": "through a process with him. I I said,"}, {"start": "01:10:13", "end": "01:10:15", "text": "\"Michael, there's no way.\" He's like,"}, {"start": "01:10:14", "end": "01:10:17", "text": "\"Can I just have the drives?\" I'm like,"}, {"start": "01:10:15", "end": "01:10:20", "text": "\"I ain't going to [ __ ] trust you. you"}, {"start": "01:10:17", "end": "01:10:21", "text": "come into my life, massage, I'm not"}, {"start": "01:10:20", "end": "01:10:23", "text": "going to trust you. My wife's saw, you"}, {"start": "01:10:21", "end": "01:10:25", "text": "got to trust somebody. And and she was"}, {"start": "01:10:23", "end": "01:10:27", "text": "right. Trust is a choice the first time."}, {"start": "01:10:25", "end": "01:10:31", "text": "After that, it's it's repeated. So, I"}, {"start": "01:10:27", "end": "01:10:34", "text": "gave him 20 years of footage. 99.9% I"}, {"start": "01:10:31", "end": "01:10:36", "text": "never put out. That kid has seen it all."}, {"start": "01:10:34", "end": "01:10:38", "text": ">> Except for what I didn't give him."}, {"start": "01:10:36", "end": "01:10:41", "text": ">> Sure. What was buried?"}, {"start": "01:10:38", "end": "01:10:45", "text": ">> Well, I didn't give him stuff, but I"}, {"start": "01:10:41", "end": "01:10:47", "text": "gave him 99% of it. So, he watched it"}, {"start": "01:10:45", "end": "01:10:50", "text": "all. So when I told him a story and he's"}, {"start": "01:10:47", "end": "01:10:51", "text": "like, \"No way.\" He'd come back to me and"}, {"start": "01:10:50", "end": "01:10:52", "text": "he goes, \"Dude, it was cooler than you"}, {"start": "01:10:51", "end": "01:10:54", "text": "remembered. Check this out.\" And I was"}, {"start": "01:10:52", "end": "01:10:57", "text": "like, \"What the fuck?\" So I gave him 20"}, {"start": "01:10:54", "end": "01:10:58", "text": "years of my footage, then he stuff"}, {"start": "01:10:57", "end": "01:10:59", "text": "started happening. And then he's like,"}, {"start": "01:10:58", "end": "01:11:00", "text": "\"Dude, we got to turn on the camera"}, {"start": "01:10:59", "end": "01:11:02", "text": "fresh.\" I'm like, I said, \"We're not"}, {"start": "01:11:00", "end": "01:11:03", "text": "doing that.\" And then he's like, \"We got"}, {"start": "01:11:02", "end": "01:11:06", "text": "to turn on the camera fresh.\" I'm like,"}, {"start": "01:11:03", "end": "01:11:07", "text": "\"I got to trust you.\" It was a it was a"}, {"start": "01:11:06", "end": "01:11:09", "text": "trust exercise. So that kid, I just want"}, {"start": "01:11:07", "end": "01:11:13", "text": "to not get off him yet. Michael"}, {"start": "01:11:09", "end": "01:11:14", "text": "Lazowski, right out of AFI, I think is"}, {"start": "01:11:13", "end": "01:11:16", "text": "the term. like, you know, probably top"}, {"start": "01:11:14", "end": "01:11:20", "text": "of his class cuz he's an overachiever."}, {"start": "01:11:16", "end": "01:11:23", "text": "Um, sincere sweetheart, but a very"}, {"start": "01:11:20", "end": "01:11:27", "text": "powerful man, family,"}, {"start": "01:11:23", "end": "01:11:29", "text": "good human, worthy of your trust. I only"}, {"start": "01:11:27", "end": "01:11:31", "text": "put one, and I'll let him say it. I put"}, {"start": "01:11:29", "end": "01:11:33", "text": "one restriction on him for the movie."}, {"start": "01:11:31", "end": "01:11:35", "text": "And I like leaving things undone so you"}, {"start": "01:11:33", "end": "01:11:38", "text": "stay curious. And you should ask him"}, {"start": "01:11:35", "end": "01:11:41", "text": "what the one condition I had was for him"}, {"start": "01:11:38", "end": "01:11:42", "text": "to make and use my 20 years of footage"}, {"start": "01:11:41", "end": "01:11:42", "text": "when you talk to him."}, {"start": "01:11:42", "end": "01:11:44", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "01:11:42", "end": "01:11:48", "text": ">> Okay. Yeah. Um I there was a few there's"}, {"start": "01:11:44", "end": "01:11:50", "text": "a few choices there as well that"}, {"start": "01:11:48", "end": "01:11:55", "text": "you know I found really interesting as"}, {"start": "01:11:50", "end": "01:11:57", "text": "as as someone who knows you. Um one was"}, {"start": "01:11:55", "end": "01:12:01", "text": "you know he didn't cut around the fact"}, {"start": "01:11:57", "end": "01:12:04", "text": "you're cracking beers during this movie."}, {"start": "01:12:01", "end": "01:12:06", "text": ">> And you know someone in your position"}, {"start": "01:12:04", "end": "01:12:07", "text": "might be like hey man can you cut a few"}, {"start": "01:12:06", "end": "01:12:09", "text": "of those out? I feel like I'm drinking a"}, {"start": "01:12:07", "end": "01:12:09", "text": "lot of beers on camera."}, {"start": "01:12:09", "end": "01:12:12", "text": ">> Really?"}, {"start": "01:12:09", "end": "01:12:15", "text": ">> Yeah maybe. But I think it shows once"}, {"start": "01:12:12", "end": "01:12:17", "text": "again just who you're building, you're"}, {"start": "01:12:15", "end": "01:12:20", "text": "taking care of houses, you're cracking a"}, {"start": "01:12:17", "end": "01:12:21", "text": "beer, you're fixing stuff,"}, {"start": "01:12:20", "end": "01:12:21", "text": ">> you know, you're you're walking your"}, {"start": "01:12:21", "end": "01:12:22", "text": "dog."}, {"start": "01:12:21", "end": "01:12:25", "text": ">> Fact."}, {"start": "01:12:22", "end": "01:12:27", "text": ">> It shows you it shows your mom. Fact."}, {"start": "01:12:25", "end": "01:12:28", "text": ">> Your relationship with your mom. Fact."}, {"start": "01:12:27", "end": "01:12:30", "text": ">> Um, you know, how close you guys are."}, {"start": "01:12:28", "end": "01:12:31", "text": "Clearly that comes across as well and"}, {"start": "01:12:30", "end": "01:12:32", "text": "how much she cares about you, how much"}, {"start": "01:12:31", "end": "01:12:33", "text": "you care about her. That's very, very"}, {"start": "01:12:32", "end": "01:12:34", "text": "apparent."}, {"start": "01:12:33", "end": "01:12:36", "text": ">> I love her. I love my whole family."}, {"start": "01:12:34", "end": "01:12:38", "text": ">> Yeah. And it's it's very very apparent."}, {"start": "01:12:36", "end": "01:12:43", "text": "And so it was it was these small"}, {"start": "01:12:38", "end": "01:12:46", "text": "glimpses and and and they weren't I"}, {"start": "01:12:43", "end": "01:12:48", "text": "think what I I think what a relief to me"}, {"start": "01:12:46", "end": "01:12:49", "text": "watching it was they weren't all"}, {"start": "01:12:48", "end": "01:12:49", "text": "flattering."}, {"start": "01:12:49", "end": "01:12:52", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "01:12:49", "end": "01:12:52", "text": ">> And I think I think that that's good."}, {"start": "01:12:52", "end": "01:12:55", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "01:12:52", "end": "01:12:57", "text": ">> No, I know that to be good because the"}, {"start": "01:12:55", "end": "01:12:57", "text": "last thing you want is a puff piece,"}, {"start": "01:12:57", "end": "01:12:59", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "01:12:57", "end": "01:13:01", "text": ">> You know, of you like that's not real."}, {"start": "01:12:59", "end": "01:13:03", "text": ">> No, that's not real. Correct. Exactly."}, {"start": "01:13:01", "end": "01:13:04", "text": "And this really showed it really showed"}, {"start": "01:13:03", "end": "01:13:06", "text": "all the parts. So, I was really I was"}, {"start": "01:13:04", "end": "01:13:07", "text": "kind of really appreciative watching it"}, {"start": "01:13:06", "end": "01:13:08", "text": "from that lens of being like, \"Oh, yeah,"}, {"start": "01:13:07", "end": "01:13:09", "text": "that's Jeremy.\""}, {"start": "01:13:08", "end": "01:13:10", "text": ">> Now, I got to kill the guy or what? What"}, {"start": "01:13:09", "end": "01:13:12", "text": "do you want to show? Okay, you got to"}, {"start": "01:13:10", "end": "01:13:14", "text": "thank him. No,"}, {"start": "01:13:12", "end": "01:13:17", "text": ">> I'm going to thank him with action."}, {"start": "01:13:14", "end": "01:13:18", "text": ">> Um, okay. Let's get into First of all, I"}, {"start": "01:13:17", "end": "01:13:21", "text": "do want to sidebar go back to that pin"}, {"start": "01:13:18", "end": "01:13:22", "text": "that I put. Uh, John Leer,"}, {"start": "01:13:21", "end": "01:13:24", "text": ">> we got a whole map. Which pin?"}, {"start": "01:13:22", "end": "01:13:25", "text": ">> John Leer playing Bumper Cars in the"}, {"start": "01:13:24", "end": "01:13:27", "text": "kitchen"}, {"start": "01:13:25", "end": "01:13:30", "text": ">> was one of the one of the highlights for"}, {"start": "01:13:27", "end": "01:13:34", "text": "me when, you know, it is sad because you"}, {"start": "01:13:30", "end": "01:13:38", "text": "see his decline. Uh you were there with"}, {"start": "01:13:34", "end": "01:13:40", "text": "John Leer through you know his"}, {"start": "01:13:38", "end": "01:13:41", "text": "unfortunate you know decline."}, {"start": "01:13:40", "end": "01:13:44", "text": ">> Well we all decline."}, {"start": "01:13:41", "end": "01:13:46", "text": ">> Yeah we do. But it is it takes lucky."}, {"start": "01:13:44", "end": "01:13:48", "text": ">> It takes strength to to be there you"}, {"start": "01:13:46", "end": "01:13:50", "text": "know and you see you're fluffing up the"}, {"start": "01:13:48", "end": "01:13:52", "text": "pillows for him when he's shirtless on"}, {"start": "01:13:50", "end": "01:13:53", "text": "the couch and you know all these type of"}, {"start": "01:13:52", "end": "01:13:54", "text": "moments."}, {"start": "01:13:53", "end": "01:13:57", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:13:54", "end": "01:13:59", "text": ">> How you know that must have been that"}, {"start": "01:13:57", "end": "01:14:03", "text": "must have been kind of difficult to to"}, {"start": "01:13:59", "end": "01:14:07", "text": "witness and and and sit through. Well, I"}, {"start": "01:14:03", "end": "01:14:10", "text": "loved John Leair. I love John Lair. He"}, {"start": "01:14:07", "end": "01:14:13", "text": "was a true friend to me in the capacity"}, {"start": "01:14:10", "end": "01:14:18", "text": "that he could be. He was limited in some"}, {"start": "01:14:13", "end": "01:14:20", "text": "ways. Um, what really hurt was but but"}, {"start": "01:14:18", "end": "01:14:21", "text": "what really hurt was that I was his"}, {"start": "01:14:20", "end": "01:14:23", "text": "least favorite human on planet Earth. At"}, {"start": "01:14:21", "end": "01:14:25", "text": "least he tried to pretend I was. I"}, {"start": "01:14:23", "end": "01:14:29", "text": "probably was, but I'm might be a little"}, {"start": "01:14:25", "end": "01:14:31", "text": "delusional about that. um towards the"}, {"start": "01:14:29", "end": "01:14:33", "text": "end and it made me really sad because"}, {"start": "01:14:31", "end": "01:14:35", "text": "even when we were friends, he'd get"}, {"start": "01:14:33", "end": "01:14:36", "text": "really mad at me and like yell [ __ ] you"}, {"start": "01:14:35", "end": "01:14:38", "text": "know, and I I couldn't find the voice"}, {"start": "01:14:36", "end": "01:14:42", "text": "messages for Michael's and one thing I"}, {"start": "01:14:38", "end": "01:14:45", "text": "couldn't find. Um but he would cuz you"}, {"start": "01:14:42", "end": "01:14:48", "text": "know, everything in the movie you see is"}, {"start": "01:14:45", "end": "01:14:50", "text": "actual. That was the first time I drove"}, {"start": "01:14:48", "end": "01:14:51", "text": "to his [ __ ] house was we put the"}, {"start": "01:14:50", "end": "01:14:53", "text": "first time in because we said we're"}, {"start": "01:14:51", "end": "01:14:54", "text": "showing the first time. So that was kind"}, {"start": "01:14:53", "end": "01:14:57", "text": "of I'm going to give you a hint. was"}, {"start": "01:14:54", "end": "01:15:00", "text": "kind of the only condition"}, {"start": "01:14:57", "end": "01:15:01", "text": "is that [ __ ] I guess I'm just going to"}, {"start": "01:15:00", "end": "01:15:04", "text": "say it and see if Michael agrees, but"}, {"start": "01:15:01", "end": "01:15:06", "text": "I'm going to tell you. You may not do"}, {"start": "01:15:04", "end": "01:15:10", "text": "any"}, {"start": "01:15:06", "end": "01:15:13", "text": "movie magic. You may not put anything in"}, {"start": "01:15:10", "end": "01:15:17", "text": "there that isn't 100% accurate and true."}, {"start": "01:15:13", "end": "01:15:19", "text": "That is down to the voice message of him"}, {"start": "01:15:17", "end": "01:15:20", "text": "telling me to get Philly Titans because"}, {"start": "01:15:19", "end": "01:15:23", "text": "now now you're starting to understand me"}, {"start": "01:15:20", "end": "01:15:25", "text": "for a second here."}, {"start": "01:15:23", "end": "01:15:28", "text": "Before I started filming with John, for"}, {"start": "01:15:25", "end": "01:15:31", "text": "some reason, I was recording almost"}, {"start": "01:15:28", "end": "01:15:33", "text": "every word that came to me at all times."}, {"start": "01:15:31", "end": "01:15:36", "text": "Not a good way to live, bro. But that's"}, {"start": "01:15:33", "end": "01:15:37", "text": "how I have that message from John. So"}, {"start": "01:15:36", "end": "01:15:39", "text": "now you're getting a little insight into"}, {"start": "01:15:37", "end": "01:15:43", "text": "what I had said earlier back here in"}, {"start": "01:15:39", "end": "01:15:47", "text": "time today is that"}, {"start": "01:15:43", "end": "01:15:49", "text": "everything in that movie is exactly as I"}, {"start": "01:15:47", "end": "01:15:51", "text": "as I say it and as you see it. And that"}, {"start": "01:15:49", "end": "01:15:53", "text": "was the only thing about Michael because"}, {"start": "01:15:51", "end": "01:15:54", "text": "the thing about me with movies, I've"}, {"start": "01:15:53", "end": "01:15:56", "text": "always wanted to make one that [ __ ]"}, {"start": "01:15:54", "end": "01:15:58", "text": "repeat. I want to make one that seems"}, {"start": "01:15:56", "end": "01:16:00", "text": "real and is real but has a weird"}, {"start": "01:15:58", "end": "01:16:01", "text": "undertone of the perforation and the"}, {"start": "01:16:00", "end": "01:16:05", "text": "[ __ ] hummingbirds touching the"}, {"start": "01:16:01", "end": "01:16:07", "text": "[ __ ] firmament to look like stars."}, {"start": "01:16:05", "end": "01:16:10", "text": "But I've never done that cuz I started"}, {"start": "01:16:07", "end": "01:16:13", "text": "with a movie called Patient 17"}, {"start": "01:16:10", "end": "01:16:16", "text": "and I was shocked."}, {"start": "01:16:13", "end": "01:16:19", "text": "Very shocked. Then then I started then I"}, {"start": "01:16:16", "end": "01:16:22", "text": "went in on the you know skinwalker movie"}, {"start": "01:16:19", "end": "01:16:23", "text": "which is perplexing and then Lazar. So"}, {"start": "01:16:22", "end": "01:16:25", "text": "I've never been able to make that movie"}, {"start": "01:16:23", "end": "01:16:28", "text": "I want and I'm I think I'm done making"}, {"start": "01:16:25", "end": "01:16:30", "text": "movies right but Michael's movie because"}, {"start": "01:16:28", "end": "01:16:34", "text": "it was partially my movie because it was"}, {"start": "01:16:30", "end": "01:16:38", "text": "my footage. It has to be [ __ ] honest"}, {"start": "01:16:34", "end": "01:16:42", "text": "brutally everything accurate authentic"}, {"start": "01:16:38", "end": "01:16:45", "text": "and honest. Did he achieve his goal? Did"}, {"start": "01:16:42", "end": "01:16:46", "text": "he get it? Did Michael get it? Was he"}, {"start": "01:16:45", "end": "01:16:46", "text": "honest?"}, {"start": "01:16:46", "end": "01:16:47", "text": ">> Are you asking me?"}, {"start": "01:16:46", "end": "01:16:48", "text": ">> Yeah, I'm asking you."}, {"start": "01:16:47", "end": "01:16:49", "text": ">> Well, I don't know,"}, {"start": "01:16:48", "end": "01:16:50", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "01:16:49", "end": "01:16:51", "text": ">> That's for you to know."}, {"start": "01:16:50", "end": "01:16:52", "text": ">> Well, I know."}, {"start": "01:16:51", "end": "01:16:53", "text": ">> It seemed honest,"}, {"start": "01:16:52", "end": "01:16:56", "text": ">> but maybe you'll find out."}, {"start": "01:16:53", "end": "01:16:58", "text": ">> Yeah. No, absolutely. There there is a I"}, {"start": "01:16:56", "end": "01:17:01", "text": "remember one part that I really liked,"}, {"start": "01:16:58", "end": "01:17:03", "text": "too, was this character that John Lear"}, {"start": "01:17:01", "end": "01:17:05", "text": "had been chatting with, the the the guy"}, {"start": "01:17:03", "end": "01:17:07", "text": "who told him about the afterlife. I"}, {"start": "01:17:05", "end": "01:17:08", "text": "forget. Uh the Mr. Mr. Sleeper. That's"}, {"start": "01:17:07", "end": "01:17:10", "text": "right."}, {"start": "01:17:08", "end": "01:17:11", "text": ">> Was it Mr. Sleeper or just Sleeper or"}, {"start": "01:17:10", "end": "01:17:12", "text": "whatever it was?"}, {"start": "01:17:11", "end": "01:17:14", "text": ">> I like that. You"}, {"start": "01:17:12", "end": "01:17:16", "text": ">> Yeah. I don't know. He's a sweetheart,"}, {"start": "01:17:14", "end": "01:17:16", "text": "by the way. He is an absolute"}, {"start": "01:17:16", "end": "01:17:17", "text": "sweetheart."}, {"start": "01:17:16", "end": "01:17:19", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "01:17:17", "end": "01:17:21", "text": ">> I feel kind of bad. That's the one part"}, {"start": "01:17:19", "end": "01:17:23", "text": "of the movie I feel kind of bad about"}, {"start": "01:17:21", "end": "01:17:25", "text": ">> because what what Michael didn't say in"}, {"start": "01:17:23", "end": "01:17:27", "text": "the movie, he told what I felt."}, {"start": "01:17:25", "end": "01:17:30", "text": ">> He told that I thought"}, {"start": "01:17:27", "end": "01:17:31", "text": ">> that it was a lie. A knowing I think a"}, {"start": "01:17:30", "end": "01:17:32", "text": "knowing lie."}, {"start": "01:17:31", "end": "01:17:34", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:17:32", "end": "01:17:36", "text": ">> But sometimes like husbands and wives,"}, {"start": "01:17:34", "end": "01:17:37", "text": "they say these little pretty lies to"}, {"start": "01:17:36", "end": "01:17:40", "text": "make the other and the other one knows"}, {"start": "01:17:37", "end": "01:17:42", "text": "that they're lying. So Lear is dying."}, {"start": "01:17:40", "end": "01:17:43", "text": ">> Yeah. and Lear knows he's going to die"}, {"start": "01:17:42", "end": "01:17:43", "text": ">> and he's telling him you're going to go"}, {"start": "01:17:43", "end": "01:17:45", "text": "to heaven."}, {"start": "01:17:43", "end": "01:17:47", "text": ">> Gave him a ticket, bro. He gave him a"}, {"start": "01:17:45", "end": "01:17:50", "text": "ticket. So, I felt like that was a"}, {"start": "01:17:47", "end": "01:17:54", "text": "knowing lie. I hope that's how the movie"}, {"start": "01:17:50", "end": "01:17:58", "text": "portrays it because what happens is in"}, {"start": "01:17:54", "end": "01:18:01", "text": "reality too, Sleeper is a really the"}, {"start": "01:17:58", "end": "01:18:04", "text": "limited exposure I have to very amazing,"}, {"start": "01:18:01", "end": "01:18:07", "text": "authentic, sweet human. And he's not a"}, {"start": "01:18:04", "end": "01:18:09", "text": "liar. He's not a liar. So when that"}, {"start": "01:18:07", "end": "01:18:11", "text": "thing came up in that movie, it made me"}, {"start": "01:18:09", "end": "01:18:13", "text": "kind of squirm, but I'm I'm kind of"}, {"start": "01:18:11", "end": "01:18:16", "text": "going like, well, that's true, too. So,"}, {"start": "01:18:13", "end": "01:18:17", "text": "I just wanted to caveat that. Well, your"}, {"start": "01:18:16", "end": "01:18:20", "text": "audience is going to see it. So, I got"}, {"start": "01:18:17", "end": "01:18:24", "text": "to caveat that, which is that"}, {"start": "01:18:20", "end": "01:18:26", "text": ">> when I that really ungrounded me"}, {"start": "01:18:24", "end": "01:18:28", "text": "and in comes the anchor"}, {"start": "01:18:26", "end": "01:18:30", "text": ">> like the news anchor who's an anchor"}, {"start": "01:18:28", "end": "01:18:33", "text": ">> and a totem pole. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:18:30", "end": "01:18:34", "text": ">> George [ __ ] that name. Um, I"}, {"start": "01:18:33", "end": "01:18:37", "text": "was just going to say there's a moment"}, {"start": "01:18:34", "end": "01:18:39", "text": "where that guy where you set up the"}, {"start": "01:18:37", "end": "01:18:41", "text": "camera and you have him walk into the"}, {"start": "01:18:39", "end": "01:18:44", "text": "hotel and sit down and then he"}, {"start": "01:18:41", "end": "01:18:45", "text": "immediately he goes, \"How was that? Was"}, {"start": "01:18:44", "end": "01:18:46", "text": "that good?\" You're like, \"Yeah, that was"}, {"start": "01:18:45", "end": "01:18:49", "text": "great. It seemed really natural.\" And"}, {"start": "01:18:46", "end": "01:18:50", "text": "that stayed in. And it's those moments"}, {"start": "01:18:49", "end": "01:18:50", "text": "that I really liked about this"}, {"start": "01:18:50", "end": "01:18:52", "text": "documentary."}, {"start": "01:18:50", "end": "01:18:54", "text": ">> What I do that too is like um I make"}, {"start": "01:18:52", "end": "01:18:56", "text": "sure like I give somebody what they're"}, {"start": "01:18:54", "end": "01:18:59", "text": "looking for. So I don't think that says"}, {"start": "01:18:56", "end": "01:19:01", "text": "a lot about him being uncomfortable. I"}, {"start": "01:18:59", "end": "01:19:01", "text": "think it sounds more that you want to"}, {"start": "01:19:01", "end": "01:19:05", "text": "make sure I got"}, {"start": "01:19:01", "end": "01:19:07", "text": ">> Yeah, of course. I just like that the"}, {"start": "01:19:05", "end": "01:19:10", "text": "the artistic choice"}, {"start": "01:19:07", "end": "01:19:11", "text": ">> of leaving that in versus starting on"}, {"start": "01:19:10", "end": "01:19:12", "text": "the talking head."}, {"start": "01:19:11", "end": "01:19:13", "text": ">> Understood. Sorry."}, {"start": "01:19:12", "end": "01:19:15", "text": ">> Cuz you start on the talking head."}, {"start": "01:19:13", "end": "01:19:18", "text": "That's what everybody does. And he had"}, {"start": "01:19:15", "end": "01:19:20", "text": "him walk in, sit down, and be like, \"Did"}, {"start": "01:19:18", "end": "01:19:20", "text": "you get it?\" \"Yeah, we got it.\" And then"}, {"start": "01:19:20", "end": "01:19:21", "text": "nothing."}, {"start": "01:19:20", "end": "01:19:23", "text": ">> That's what we're talking about."}, {"start": "01:19:21", "end": "01:19:26", "text": ">> And and then we cut out his entire"}, {"start": "01:19:23", "end": "01:19:28", "text": "interview. All we took was the authentic"}, {"start": "01:19:26", "end": "01:19:30", "text": "walk-in, the sit down, the trying to act"}, {"start": "01:19:28", "end": "01:19:32", "text": "normal, and that's it. And I I thought"}, {"start": "01:19:30", "end": "01:19:34", "text": "that was really uh endearing. And so, it"}, {"start": "01:19:32", "end": "01:19:34", "text": "was those little moments that I really"}, {"start": "01:19:34", "end": "01:19:35", "text": "enjoyed."}, {"start": "01:19:34", "end": "01:19:35", "text": ">> Michael,"}, {"start": "01:19:35", "end": "01:19:36", "text": ">> yeah,"}, {"start": "01:19:35", "end": "01:19:38", "text": ">> he's he's great."}, {"start": "01:19:36", "end": "01:19:40", "text": ">> Yeah, it's a great choice. It was a It"}, {"start": "01:19:38", "end": "01:19:42", "text": "was a refreshing take on on, you know,"}, {"start": "01:19:40", "end": "01:19:43", "text": "you you watch UFO documentaries, you"}, {"start": "01:19:42", "end": "01:19:45", "text": "think you know what you're going to get,"}, {"start": "01:19:43", "end": "01:19:49", "text": "and it's not at all what I thought. And"}, {"start": "01:19:45", "end": "01:19:52", "text": "I liked I liked the surprise. Um"}, {"start": "01:19:49", "end": "01:19:54", "text": "there, you know, there's all this going"}, {"start": "01:19:52", "end": "01:19:56", "text": "on. There's the Edgar Mitchell stuff"}, {"start": "01:19:54", "end": "01:19:58", "text": "which I thought was really interesting."}, {"start": "01:19:56", "end": "01:20:00", "text": "Um, you know, you kind of see that back"}, {"start": "01:19:58", "end": "01:20:03", "text": "and forth banter slightly between Edgar"}, {"start": "01:20:00", "end": "01:20:05", "text": "Mitchell and John Leer and you know the"}, {"start": "01:20:03", "end": "01:20:07", "text": "mutual respect which he talks about but"}, {"start": "01:20:05", "end": "01:20:10", "text": "also this sort of like disagreement on"}, {"start": "01:20:07", "end": "01:20:13", "text": "the moon landing for obvious reasons."}, {"start": "01:20:10", "end": "01:20:15", "text": "Um, which which interesting uh you have"}, {"start": "01:20:13", "end": "01:20:17", "text": "um you know um what's his face? Colonel"}, {"start": "01:20:15", "end": "01:20:19", "text": "John Alexander"}, {"start": "01:20:17", "end": "01:20:21", "text": ">> and with Lear eating and Lear's eating"}, {"start": "01:20:19", "end": "01:20:22", "text": "wearing a tinfoil hat at the atomic"}, {"start": "01:20:21", "end": "01:20:24", "text": "testing museum and in the back"}, {"start": "01:20:22", "end": "01:20:26", "text": ">> Oh, yes. It's it's it's Lear and and"}, {"start": "01:20:24", "end": "01:20:26", "text": "Alexander, not Lear and Mitchell. That's"}, {"start": "01:20:26", "end": "01:20:28", "text": "right. Yes."}, {"start": "01:20:26", "end": "01:20:30", "text": ">> And and we get Yeah. It's it's Lear and"}, {"start": "01:20:28", "end": "01:20:33", "text": "Colonel John B. Alexander and Lear's"}, {"start": "01:20:30", "end": "01:20:35", "text": "there as a agent provocator with a top"}, {"start": "01:20:33", "end": "01:20:38", "text": "hat that's a fedora."}, {"start": "01:20:35", "end": "01:20:39", "text": ">> It's a top hat that is a tin foil hat at"}, {"start": "01:20:38", "end": "01:20:40", "text": "the atomic test museum. And somebody"}, {"start": "01:20:39", "end": "01:20:42", "text": "says something like, \"Is there food"}, {"start": "01:20:40", "end": "01:20:44", "text": "here?\" He's eating because that that's"}, {"start": "01:20:42", "end": "01:20:46", "text": "the truth. That's what was going on. And"}, {"start": "01:20:44", "end": "01:20:48", "text": "then if you look really closely, tell me"}, {"start": "01:20:46", "end": "01:20:50", "text": "if I'm wrong world, but I think I"}, {"start": "01:20:48", "end": "01:20:51", "text": "believe there's just one glimpse and"}, {"start": "01:20:50", "end": "01:20:54", "text": "also because I just haven't watched the"}, {"start": "01:20:51", "end": "01:20:57", "text": "movie bunch, but I believe Nick Pope is"}, {"start": "01:20:54", "end": "01:21:00", "text": "sitting far away at a table sitting"}, {"start": "01:20:57", "end": "01:21:02", "text": "there. And I believe I believe that"}, {"start": "01:21:00", "end": "01:21:03", "text": "maybe his first or one of his first that"}, {"start": "01:21:02", "end": "01:21:06", "text": "was my first encounter of ever seeing or"}, {"start": "01:21:03", "end": "01:21:08", "text": "meeting him if it was that time."}, {"start": "01:21:06", "end": "01:21:11", "text": ">> And man, he was in this bathroom before"}, {"start": "01:21:08", "end": "01:21:12", "text": "and he was so nervous and it and I had"}, {"start": "01:21:11", "end": "01:21:13", "text": "never met him. So, I'd seen him before"}, {"start": "01:21:12", "end": "01:21:15", "text": "obviously, so he had must have been out"}, {"start": "01:21:13", "end": "01:21:18", "text": "there, but he was so nervous. And I look"}, {"start": "01:21:15", "end": "01:21:20", "text": "at him and I go, \"Bro, are you nervous?\""}, {"start": "01:21:18", "end": "01:21:23", "text": "I [ __ ] Words just come out my mouth."}, {"start": "01:21:20", "end": "01:21:25", "text": "What a cool moment. And you said, \"John,"}, {"start": "01:21:23", "end": "01:21:27", "text": "you said um Edgar Mitchell, time"}, {"start": "01:21:25", "end": "01:21:31", "text": "dilation.\" I don't know what you saw in"}, {"start": "01:21:27", "end": "01:21:34", "text": "that movie. But what you didn't see was"}, {"start": "01:21:31", "end": "01:21:35", "text": "Oh, I don't know. Um the hour and a half"}, {"start": "01:21:34", "end": "01:21:40", "text": "phone call where he made me sit in a"}, {"start": "01:21:35", "end": "01:21:42", "text": "room with his psychic on the telephone."}, {"start": "01:21:40", "end": "01:21:44", "text": ">> Edgar Mitchell's psychic. Yeah, Edgar"}, {"start": "01:21:42", "end": "01:21:46", "text": "Mitchell had a psychic and he talked to"}, {"start": "01:21:44", "end": "01:21:48", "text": "her weekly and there's an hour and a"}, {"start": "01:21:46", "end": "01:21:49", "text": "half what he knew was being recorded as"}, {"start": "01:21:48", "end": "01:21:51", "text": "an hour and a half of me sitting there"}, {"start": "01:21:49", "end": "01:21:53", "text": "and the psychic who felt like a"}, {"start": "01:21:51", "end": "01:21:55", "text": "charlatan to me was trying to convince"}, {"start": "01:21:53", "end": "01:21:56", "text": "him I was the reincarnation of his son"}, {"start": "01:21:55", "end": "01:21:57", "text": "who had passed away."}, {"start": "01:21:56", "end": "01:21:59", "text": ">> Oh my god,"}, {"start": "01:21:57", "end": "01:22:01", "text": ">> bro. It's on tape. Play the tape back."}, {"start": "01:21:59", "end": "01:22:02", "text": "Moonwalk Z to A. I'm just saying there's"}, {"start": "01:22:01", "end": "01:22:04", "text": "a compression and I'm sorry I keep"}, {"start": "01:22:02", "end": "01:22:05", "text": "cutting you off. I'm just really pumped"}, {"start": "01:22:04", "end": "01:22:07", "text": "up on this coffee you gave. Is this"}, {"start": "01:22:05", "end": "01:22:10", "text": "atomic?"}, {"start": "01:22:07", "end": "01:22:11", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. It's uh"}, {"start": "01:22:10", "end": "01:22:13", "text": "what's the uh what's the old paint they"}, {"start": "01:22:11", "end": "01:22:14", "text": "used to use?"}, {"start": "01:22:13", "end": "01:22:16", "text": ">> Iridium."}, {"start": "01:22:14", "end": "01:22:19", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:22:16", "end": "01:22:20", "text": "Um yeah, that's interesting. I mean,"}, {"start": "01:22:19", "end": "01:22:22", "text": "there's a lot of those little moments"}, {"start": "01:22:20", "end": "01:22:24", "text": "that are kind of cool because you see"}, {"start": "01:22:22", "end": "01:22:29", "text": "glimpses. People don't really realize"}, {"start": "01:22:24", "end": "01:22:31", "text": "how involved you were with documenting"}, {"start": "01:22:29", "end": "01:22:32", "text": "UFO personalities. Um you you know you"}, {"start": "01:22:31", "end": "01:22:35", "text": "get to see a lot of colorful"}, {"start": "01:22:32", "end": "01:22:38", "text": "personalities come in and out of uh John"}, {"start": "01:22:35", "end": "01:22:41", "text": "Lear's home uh you know which is really"}, {"start": "01:22:38", "end": "01:22:43", "text": "you know kind of sheds some light on you"}, {"start": "01:22:41", "end": "01:22:45", "text": "know the the figures in this community"}, {"start": "01:22:43", "end": "01:22:48", "text": "but also"}, {"start": "01:22:45", "end": "01:22:50", "text": "you see a small glimpse of your"}, {"start": "01:22:48", "end": "01:22:52", "text": "interview with Oscar Wolf."}, {"start": "01:22:50", "end": "01:22:52", "text": ">> Oh yeah. You see a little handshake"}, {"start": "01:22:52", "end": "01:22:53", "text": "there."}, {"start": "01:22:52", "end": "01:22:54", "text": ">> A little handshake. Most people don't"}, {"start": "01:22:53", "end": "01:22:55", "text": "know that you filmed that,"}, {"start": "01:22:54", "end": "01:22:56", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "01:22:55", "end": "01:22:59", "text": ">> Because I think if I'm not mistaken,"}, {"start": "01:22:56", "end": "01:23:00", "text": "that was uh Richard Dolan's uh Richard"}, {"start": "01:22:59", "end": "01:23:04", "text": "Dolan was on camera with"}, {"start": "01:23:00", "end": "01:23:06", "text": ">> Osar to do it because he was and is a"}, {"start": "01:23:04", "end": "01:23:08", "text": "thoughtful authority figure. And nobody"}, {"start": "01:23:06", "end": "01:23:10", "text": "knew my face. And so we we were like,"}, {"start": "01:23:08", "end": "01:23:12", "text": "damn, what do we do? We need somebody"}, {"start": "01:23:10", "end": "01:23:15", "text": "who knows [ __ ] who can ask smart"}, {"start": "01:23:12", "end": "01:23:17", "text": "questions cuz I'm I didn't know what to"}, {"start": "01:23:15", "end": "01:23:17", "text": "ask the guy. What a great opportunity."}, {"start": "01:23:17", "end": "01:23:19", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "01:23:17", "end": "01:23:21", "text": ">> And it was Ruben Langden who set that"}, {"start": "01:23:19", "end": "01:23:23", "text": "all up. And Ruben Langden did the"}, {"start": "01:23:21", "end": "01:23:26", "text": "citizen hearing on disclosure in 2013."}, {"start": "01:23:23", "end": "01:23:28", "text": "He is the the force behind it. He is the"}, {"start": "01:23:26", "end": "01:23:30", "text": "producer. The citizen hearing a lot of"}, {"start": "01:23:28", "end": "01:23:33", "text": "people, you know, point credit to a"}, {"start": "01:23:30", "end": "01:23:36", "text": "bunch of people for it. No, it was Ruben"}, {"start": "01:23:33", "end": "01:23:38", "text": "[ __ ] Langden. Ruben Langden literally"}, {"start": "01:23:36", "end": "01:23:39", "text": "went bankrupt because of"}, {"start": "01:23:38", "end": "01:23:41", "text": "misappropriation of funds and everything"}, {"start": "01:23:39", "end": "01:23:44", "text": "that was going on. Came to me like a"}, {"start": "01:23:41", "end": "01:23:45", "text": "life raft. Said, \"Dude, I need help. I"}, {"start": "01:23:44", "end": "01:23:48", "text": "need a brother. Like we are in a bad"}, {"start": "01:23:45", "end": "01:23:50", "text": "situation. I am losing everything.\" And"}, {"start": "01:23:48", "end": "01:23:53", "text": "I said, \"As long as your past"}, {"start": "01:23:50", "end": "01:23:56", "text": "interactions don't harm me in any way, I"}, {"start": "01:23:53", "end": "01:23:58", "text": "will [ __ ] I got you, bro. But you we"}, {"start": "01:23:56", "end": "01:24:00", "text": "need to literally sign a document that"}, {"start": "01:23:58", "end": "01:24:03", "text": "says none of this [ __ ] will spill"}, {"start": "01:24:00", "end": "01:24:05", "text": "over to me.\" And you know, I have my"}, {"start": "01:24:03", "end": "01:24:08", "text": "businesses, my life, my livelihoods, all"}, {"start": "01:24:05", "end": "01:24:10", "text": "this stuff. I'm not UFO land can wait."}, {"start": "01:24:08", "end": "01:24:14", "text": "Ruben Langden is the unsung hero of the"}, {"start": "01:24:10", "end": "01:24:17", "text": "citizen hearing and Oscar Wolf."}, {"start": "01:24:14", "end": "01:24:19", "text": "So, he is a guy with a story and people"}, {"start": "01:24:17", "end": "01:24:21", "text": "will see that interview online, right?"}, {"start": "01:24:19", "end": "01:24:23", "text": "And it is Richard Dolan because he's a"}, {"start": "01:24:21", "end": "01:24:26", "text": "badass gangster, knows what he's talking"}, {"start": "01:24:23", "end": "01:24:27", "text": "about and is also heartfelt that does"}, {"start": "01:24:26", "end": "01:24:31", "text": "the interview."}, {"start": "01:24:27", "end": "01:24:32", "text": ">> Yeah. And for those who don't know about"}, {"start": "01:24:31", "end": "01:24:34", "text": "this interview, you should definitely go"}, {"start": "01:24:32", "end": "01:24:37", "text": "check it out. But this is the one that"}, {"start": "01:24:34", "end": "01:24:39", "text": "Danny Sheihin refers to as well about"}, {"start": "01:24:37", "end": "01:24:40", "text": "this gentleman being on his deathbed."}, {"start": "01:24:39", "end": "01:24:43", "text": ">> Oh, yeah."}, {"start": "01:24:40", "end": "01:24:46", "text": ">> And, you know, saying that he was at S4."}, {"start": "01:24:43", "end": "01:24:48", "text": "He spoke he saw an alien. He saw what he"}, {"start": "01:24:46", "end": "01:24:50", "text": "perceived to be some type of"}, {"start": "01:24:48", "end": "01:24:50", "text": "extraterrestrial on the other side of a"}, {"start": "01:24:50", "end": "01:24:51", "text": "glass."}, {"start": "01:24:50", "end": "01:24:54", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:24:51", "end": "01:24:55", "text": ">> And um and you know had had Q cards with"}, {"start": "01:24:54", "end": "01:24:58", "text": "questions on him and whatnot like this"}, {"start": "01:24:55", "end": "01:24:59", "text": "whole he went underground at S4. There"}, {"start": "01:24:58", "end": "01:25:01", "text": "was floating UFOs."}, {"start": "01:24:59", "end": "01:25:02", "text": ">> Not at S4 or I don't I don't recall my"}, {"start": "01:25:01", "end": "01:25:03", "text": "memory. Okay. I don't recall. But let me"}, {"start": "01:25:02", "end": "01:25:05", "text": "tell you something people don't know."}, {"start": "01:25:03", "end": "01:25:08", "text": "It's the more important part. This has"}, {"start": "01:25:05", "end": "01:25:10", "text": "never been said that I know of. Um, I"}, {"start": "01:25:08", "end": "01:25:11", "text": "maybe I've said it before, but um, what"}, {"start": "01:25:10", "end": "01:25:15", "text": "people don't know, if they don't know, I"}, {"start": "01:25:11", "end": "01:25:19", "text": "I filmed that. What they also don't know"}, {"start": "01:25:15", "end": "01:25:20", "text": "is that he was like on dialysis"}, {"start": "01:25:19", "end": "01:25:22", "text": "or something like that for his kidneys."}, {"start": "01:25:20", "end": "01:25:24", "text": "That's what was killing him, that he"}, {"start": "01:25:22", "end": "01:25:27", "text": "didn't have very long to live. We're"}, {"start": "01:25:24", "end": "01:25:29", "text": "talking weeks or something. It was told"}, {"start": "01:25:27", "end": "01:25:31", "text": "to us like, \"This is the last chance.\""}, {"start": "01:25:29", "end": "01:25:36", "text": "And it was like a family member of his"}, {"start": "01:25:31", "end": "01:25:39", "text": "who kind of made it work. His wife"}, {"start": "01:25:36", "end": "01:25:43", "text": "violently did not want him to do this"}, {"start": "01:25:39", "end": "01:25:45", "text": "interview because of her religion."}, {"start": "01:25:43", "end": "01:25:47", "text": "And what happened was this guy gets up"}, {"start": "01:25:45", "end": "01:25:49", "text": "out of his diialysis, I think it was"}, {"start": "01:25:47", "end": "01:25:52", "text": "diialysis, out of this thing where he"}, {"start": "01:25:49", "end": "01:25:54", "text": "needs a machine. We get him in the room."}, {"start": "01:25:52", "end": "01:25:57", "text": "He does this interview and goes right"}, {"start": "01:25:54", "end": "01:26:00", "text": "back to the hospital type situation he"}, {"start": "01:25:57", "end": "01:26:03", "text": "was in. So think about this. this guy is"}, {"start": "01:26:00", "end": "01:26:05", "text": "going to gain nothing,"}, {"start": "01:26:03", "end": "01:26:06", "text": "you know, unless he's a plant trying to"}, {"start": "01:26:05", "end": "01:26:08", "text": "confuse it and they're like, \"We're"}, {"start": "01:26:06", "end": "01:26:09", "text": "going to hurt your family after you die"}, {"start": "01:26:08", "end": "01:26:11", "text": "if you don't do it.\" That's always an"}, {"start": "01:26:09", "end": "01:26:14", "text": "option, okay? But I believe from knowing"}, {"start": "01:26:11", "end": "01:26:16", "text": "the guy for this much time and being in"}, {"start": "01:26:14", "end": "01:26:19", "text": "that room that he told it like he"}, {"start": "01:26:16", "end": "01:26:22", "text": "experienced it and knew it and that even"}, {"start": "01:26:19", "end": "01:26:24", "text": "being an older guy with health problems,"}, {"start": "01:26:22", "end": "01:26:27", "text": "he was sharp as a dagger. And I can"}, {"start": "01:26:24", "end": "01:26:30", "text": "attest to that. I tested him. He's sharp"}, {"start": "01:26:27", "end": "01:26:34", "text": "as a dagger. And he went against the"}, {"start": "01:26:30", "end": "01:26:37", "text": "wishes of his most beloved for the"}, {"start": "01:26:34", "end": "01:26:40", "text": "fundamental reason of religion. She was"}, {"start": "01:26:37", "end": "01:26:43", "text": "against it, her religious views. And he"}, {"start": "01:26:40", "end": "01:26:46", "text": "is there and he does the interview."}, {"start": "01:26:43", "end": "01:26:49", "text": "That's his mic drop."}, {"start": "01:26:46", "end": "01:26:51", "text": "Then he dies. That is one deathbed"}, {"start": "01:26:49", "end": "01:26:54", "text": "confession that saw the light of day."}, {"start": "01:26:51", "end": "01:26:57", "text": "Now, I've been in many of those exact"}, {"start": "01:26:54", "end": "01:27:03", "text": "experiences. And some people are not"}, {"start": "01:26:57", "end": "01:27:05", "text": "dead and other people are dead. And yet"}, {"start": "01:27:03", "end": "01:27:08", "text": "it is not appropriate."}, {"start": "01:27:05", "end": "01:27:10", "text": "Nor did they ask me to put stuff out."}, {"start": "01:27:08", "end": "01:27:11", "text": "That shit's buried. And and here's why."}, {"start": "01:27:10", "end": "01:27:13", "text": "Let me just defend myself cuz people"}, {"start": "01:27:11", "end": "01:27:15", "text": "going to be mad right now. If that's if"}, {"start": "01:27:13", "end": "01:27:18", "text": "what I'm saying is true, which it is,"}, {"start": "01:27:15", "end": "01:27:21", "text": "people be mad."}, {"start": "01:27:18", "end": "01:27:23", "text": "What people might not yet understand"}, {"start": "01:27:21", "end": "01:27:26", "text": "until the words are spoken, and"}, {"start": "01:27:23", "end": "01:27:29", "text": "hopefully they do, is that when somebody"}, {"start": "01:27:26", "end": "01:27:33", "text": "tells you a secret and tells you to keep"}, {"start": "01:27:29", "end": "01:27:35", "text": "it secret, unless you can't anymore,"}, {"start": "01:27:33", "end": "01:27:39", "text": "then you do just that. You you keep it"}, {"start": "01:27:35", "end": "01:27:41", "text": "secret, tell you c a n t can't. Okay?"}, {"start": "01:27:39", "end": "01:27:43", "text": "Because it's not just the person"}, {"start": "01:27:41", "end": "01:27:45", "text": "talking. And to be sorry, I'm going to"}, {"start": "01:27:43", "end": "01:27:49", "text": "bring it out of Dr. Seuss world right"}, {"start": "01:27:45", "end": "01:27:49", "text": "now. I'm be very direct with you."}, {"start": "01:27:54", "end": "01:28:01", "text": "If people have access to the closest"}, {"start": "01:27:57", "end": "01:28:03", "text": "guarded secret in human history that has"}, {"start": "01:28:01", "end": "01:28:05", "text": "been held back from the American and"}, {"start": "01:28:03", "end": "01:28:10", "text": "global public"}, {"start": "01:28:05", "end": "01:28:12", "text": "since they could hold it back. UFOs,"}, {"start": "01:28:10", "end": "01:28:15", "text": "what they represent, what they're a part"}, {"start": "01:28:12", "end": "01:28:18", "text": "of. If somebody has close proximity to"}, {"start": "01:28:15", "end": "01:28:20", "text": "that, A, you'll never know their name"}, {"start": "01:28:18", "end": "01:28:22", "text": "publicly."}, {"start": "01:28:20", "end": "01:28:26", "text": "Good try. Never."}, {"start": "01:28:22", "end": "01:28:28", "text": "B, they will be quiet. They will not be"}, {"start": "01:28:26", "end": "01:28:30", "text": "the ones you expect. And there's a"}, {"start": "01:28:28", "end": "01:28:32", "text": "reason they're put in that position"}, {"start": "01:28:30", "end": "01:28:34", "text": "because they are worthy of your trust."}, {"start": "01:28:32", "end": "01:28:36", "text": "They are trustworthy."}, {"start": "01:28:34", "end": "01:28:39", "text": "And usually, if it's military,"}, {"start": "01:28:36", "end": "01:28:41", "text": "they were born into that position"}, {"start": "01:28:39", "end": "01:28:43", "text": "because their fathers were trusted with"}, {"start": "01:28:41", "end": "01:28:45", "text": "this secret. And sometimes their"}, {"start": "01:28:43", "end": "01:28:48", "text": "father's fathers were trusted with a"}, {"start": "01:28:45", "end": "01:28:51", "text": "secret. Now here's the rub."}, {"start": "01:28:48", "end": "01:28:54", "text": "That person dies."}, {"start": "01:28:51", "end": "01:28:57", "text": "You know they procreate and you know"}, {"start": "01:28:54", "end": "01:29:02", "text": "that their kin are also in a position of"}, {"start": "01:28:57", "end": "01:29:03", "text": "trust. So you release this"}, {"start": "01:29:02", "end": "01:29:03", "text": "and I get chills,"}, {"start": "01:29:03", "end": "01:29:04", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "01:29:03", "end": "01:29:05", "text": ">> Do you understand?"}, {"start": "01:29:04", "end": "01:29:06", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "01:29:05", "end": "01:29:08", "text": ">> Does your audience understand?"}, {"start": "01:29:06", "end": "01:29:12", "text": ">> I'm sure they do. So sometimes to tell"}, {"start": "01:29:08", "end": "01:29:15", "text": "secrets you need to keep certain ones,"}, {"start": "01:29:12", "end": "01:29:17", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "01:29:15", "end": "01:29:19", "text": ">> Yeah, that's interesting. The the the"}, {"start": "01:29:17", "end": "01:29:21", "text": "nepo situation in the legacy program."}, {"start": "01:29:19", "end": "01:29:21", "text": ">> What does that word mean? Nepo"}, {"start": "01:29:21", "end": "01:29:23", "text": ">> ne Yeah, nepotism."}, {"start": "01:29:21", "end": "01:29:26", "text": ">> What does nepotism mean?"}, {"start": "01:29:23", "end": "01:29:30", "text": ">> Nepotism is getting something um"}, {"start": "01:29:26", "end": "01:29:32", "text": "basically based on a relationship."}, {"start": "01:29:30", "end": "01:29:33", "text": "So you're getting ahead in life."}, {"start": "01:29:32", "end": "01:29:35", "text": ">> Yeah. But sometimes people are highly"}, {"start": "01:29:33", "end": "01:29:37", "text": "qualified to receive that."}, {"start": "01:29:35", "end": "01:29:37", "text": ">> Of course. Of course. But but for the"}, {"start": "01:29:37", "end": "01:29:38", "text": "most part, you know,"}, {"start": "01:29:37", "end": "01:29:39", "text": ">> sometimes better than their dads at"}, {"start": "01:29:38", "end": "01:29:41", "text": "acting."}, {"start": "01:29:39", "end": "01:29:42", "text": ">> Yeah, sometimes. But sometimes, you"}, {"start": "01:29:41", "end": "01:29:43", "text": "know, it's it's it's"}, {"start": "01:29:42", "end": "01:29:44", "text": ">> it doesn't hurt."}, {"start": "01:29:43", "end": "01:29:45", "text": ">> It's a bit of a derogatory term that"}, {"start": "01:29:44", "end": "01:29:46", "text": "people use."}, {"start": "01:29:45", "end": "01:29:47", "text": ">> That's what I feel. And I don't think"}, {"start": "01:29:46", "end": "01:29:48", "text": "that's fair."}, {"start": "01:29:47", "end": "01:29:49", "text": ">> It not always,"}, {"start": "01:29:48", "end": "01:29:50", "text": ">> but sometimes it is."}, {"start": "01:29:49", "end": "01:29:52", "text": ">> I think so."}, {"start": "01:29:50", "end": "01:29:53", "text": ">> Okay. You have to live in someone's"}, {"start": "01:29:52", "end": "01:29:55", "text": "shadow is what I say. We say"}, {"start": "01:29:53", "end": "01:29:57", "text": "terrestrially. Sometimes they're big"}, {"start": "01:29:55", "end": "01:29:58", "text": "shoes to fill. We say terrestrially,"}, {"start": "01:29:57", "end": "01:29:59", "text": "right? Yeah, sure."}, {"start": "01:29:58", "end": "01:30:01", "text": ">> But sometimes people that are doing"}, {"start": "01:29:59", "end": "01:30:03", "text": "that, they're just all they're seeing is"}, {"start": "01:30:01", "end": "01:30:05", "text": "their own big ass shadow thinking it was"}, {"start": "01:30:03", "end": "01:30:07", "text": "their daddy's. And that's the thing I've"}, {"start": "01:30:05", "end": "01:30:09", "text": "noticed. I got a musician friend and his"}, {"start": "01:30:07", "end": "01:30:12", "text": "dad's got a gigantic [ __ ] shadow,"}, {"start": "01:30:09", "end": "01:30:14", "text": "bro. And so this musician guy, you know,"}, {"start": "01:30:12", "end": "01:30:17", "text": "was kind of thought he was living in his"}, {"start": "01:30:14", "end": "01:30:19", "text": "his father's shadow, but indeed he's now"}, {"start": "01:30:17", "end": "01:30:21", "text": "realized, thank God, that it was his own"}, {"start": "01:30:19", "end": "01:30:22", "text": "big ass shadow. And so now you're going"}, {"start": "01:30:21", "end": "01:30:26", "text": "to hear his voice again."}, {"start": "01:30:22", "end": "01:30:26", "text": ">> Yeah. Nice. Um"}, {"start": "01:30:26", "end": "01:30:27", "text": "Okay."}, {"start": "01:30:26", "end": "01:30:28", "text": ">> Like, let's go back to UFOs."}, {"start": "01:30:27", "end": "01:30:31", "text": ">> Well, I want to go back to UFOs."}, {"start": "01:30:28", "end": "01:30:32", "text": "Certainly want to go back to UFOs. Um"}, {"start": "01:30:31", "end": "01:30:33", "text": ">> am I derailing you?"}, {"start": "01:30:32", "end": "01:30:33", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "01:30:33", "end": "01:30:35", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "01:30:33", "end": "01:30:38", "text": ">> No, I like this. I like the train."}, {"start": "01:30:35", "end": "01:30:38", "text": ">> Yeah. I like dynamic conversations and"}, {"start": "01:30:38", "end": "01:30:40", "text": "some people"}, {"start": "01:30:38", "end": "01:30:41", "text": ">> But we're not being sporadic, right?"}, {"start": "01:30:40", "end": "01:30:43", "text": ">> I don't know. Who cares?"}, {"start": "01:30:41", "end": "01:30:44", "text": ">> Okay. But I just I hope that, you know,"}, {"start": "01:30:43", "end": "01:30:45", "text": "we can have a logical straightforward"}, {"start": "01:30:44", "end": "01:30:46", "text": "conversation."}, {"start": "01:30:45", "end": "01:30:48", "text": ">> We can have any type of conversation we"}, {"start": "01:30:46", "end": "01:30:53", "text": "want. Don't worry about it. Whatever"}, {"start": "01:30:48", "end": "01:30:56", "text": "conversation I to to to be quite frank,"}, {"start": "01:30:53", "end": "01:30:58", "text": ">> in the words of um Rick Rubin, the"}, {"start": "01:30:56", "end": "01:30:59", "text": "audience comes last, right?"}, {"start": "01:30:58", "end": "01:30:59", "text": ">> Did he say that?"}, {"start": "01:30:59", "end": "01:31:00", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:30:59", "end": "01:31:02", "text": ">> What a genius."}, {"start": "01:31:00", "end": "01:31:04", "text": ">> Because you know, you got to think about"}, {"start": "01:31:02", "end": "01:31:06", "text": "the task at hand. You got to think about"}, {"start": "01:31:04", "end": "01:31:08", "text": "what you're doing, what you're"}, {"start": "01:31:06", "end": "01:31:09", "text": "passionate about, all that stuff. After"}, {"start": "01:31:08", "end": "01:31:09", "text": "you do that,"}, {"start": "01:31:09", "end": "01:31:12", "text": ">> right,"}, {"start": "01:31:09", "end": "01:31:13", "text": ">> if you do that, the audience will love"}, {"start": "01:31:12", "end": "01:31:15", "text": "it hopefully."}, {"start": "01:31:13", "end": "01:31:17", "text": ">> Uh, but even if they don't, it it has to"}, {"start": "01:31:15", "end": "01:31:18", "text": "mean something to you for you to do it."}, {"start": "01:31:17", "end": "01:31:20", "text": ">> Rubik's cube, bro."}, {"start": "01:31:18", "end": "01:31:22", "text": ">> Yeah, he's he's uh he's got some good"}, {"start": "01:31:20", "end": "01:31:26", "text": "thoughts. Um,"}, {"start": "01:31:22", "end": "01:31:26", "text": ">> so, okay. And love the audience, by the"}, {"start": "01:31:26", "end": "01:31:28", "text": "way. It's"}, {"start": "01:31:26", "end": "01:31:30", "text": ">> Yeah, don't be a dick. Be a dick."}, {"start": "01:31:28", "end": "01:31:31", "text": ">> Not trying to be a dick to the audience."}, {"start": "01:31:30", "end": "01:31:33", "text": ">> I think they paid for this set, bro."}, {"start": "01:31:31", "end": "01:31:34", "text": "Unless it was some billionaire. You're"}, {"start": "01:31:33", "end": "01:31:35", "text": "not telling us, Ramsay."}, {"start": "01:31:34", "end": "01:31:36", "text": ">> No, definitely not."}, {"start": "01:31:35", "end": "01:31:37", "text": ">> I know."}, {"start": "01:31:36", "end": "01:31:38", "text": ">> Um,"}, {"start": "01:31:37", "end": "01:31:39", "text": ">> you mean you self-made or"}, {"start": "01:31:38", "end": "01:31:41", "text": ">> you mean Daddy Teal? No."}, {"start": "01:31:39", "end": "01:31:42", "text": ">> Daddy Teal? No. Hold on. Let me ask you"}, {"start": "01:31:41", "end": "01:31:45", "text": "something."}, {"start": "01:31:42", "end": "01:31:47", "text": ">> So, your brain that I'm seeing outside"}, {"start": "01:31:45", "end": "01:31:50", "text": "of the closed skiff here,"}, {"start": "01:31:47", "end": "01:31:52", "text": ">> your brain that I have been"}, {"start": "01:31:50", "end": "01:31:55", "text": ">> uh beholding for more"}, {"start": "01:31:52", "end": "01:31:59", "text": ">> than 20 or almost 24 hours. Okay."}, {"start": "01:31:55", "end": "01:32:01", "text": ">> Like you created this"}, {"start": "01:31:59", "end": "01:32:02", "text": "you you weren't like you through Neo."}, {"start": "01:32:01", "end": "01:32:03", "text": "You're not a neo baby."}, {"start": "01:32:02", "end": "01:32:05", "text": ">> Neo a nepo baby."}, {"start": "01:32:03", "end": "01:32:07", "text": ">> You're a nepo baby. No,"}, {"start": "01:32:05", "end": "01:32:09", "text": ">> might be a neo baby, but not a neo baby."}, {"start": "01:32:07", "end": "01:32:11", "text": "So all of this is your brain and and"}, {"start": "01:32:09", "end": "01:32:13", "text": "you're going to say and the the team of"}, {"start": "01:32:11", "end": "01:32:15", "text": "people I work with and"}, {"start": "01:32:13", "end": "01:32:15", "text": ">> yeah, most of mine. I'll say most of"}, {"start": "01:32:15", "end": "01:32:16", "text": "mine."}, {"start": "01:32:15", "end": "01:32:19", "text": ">> It's impressive to see what you've"}, {"start": "01:32:16", "end": "01:32:21", "text": "created. Don't [ __ ] stop."}, {"start": "01:32:19", "end": "01:32:23", "text": ">> Thank you. And I won't as long as uh my"}, {"start": "01:32:21", "end": "01:32:23", "text": "creative passion keeps getting"}, {"start": "01:32:23", "end": "01:32:24", "text": "fulfilled."}, {"start": "01:32:23", "end": "01:32:26", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "01:32:24", "end": "01:32:29", "text": ">> And my my love for being creative is is"}, {"start": "01:32:26", "end": "01:32:31", "text": "renewed, then I will continue being uh"}, {"start": "01:32:29", "end": "01:32:32", "text": "creative and passionate. But as soon as"}, {"start": "01:32:31", "end": "01:32:34", "text": "uh soon as that ends, you got to you got"}, {"start": "01:32:32", "end": "01:32:34", "text": "to change gears."}, {"start": "01:32:34", "end": "01:32:37", "text": ">> Change gears."}, {"start": "01:32:34", "end": "01:32:38", "text": ">> Yeah. Like I did, you know, going from"}, {"start": "01:32:37", "end": "01:32:40", "text": "magic to puzzles to this."}, {"start": "01:32:38", "end": "01:32:42", "text": ">> But you never left that gear behind. So"}, {"start": "01:32:40", "end": "01:32:43", "text": "I've left some gears behind."}, {"start": "01:32:42", "end": "01:32:44", "text": ">> It might seem that way"}, {"start": "01:32:43", "end": "01:32:45", "text": ">> for you"}, {"start": "01:32:44", "end": "01:32:47", "text": ">> to people."}, {"start": "01:32:45", "end": "01:32:48", "text": ">> No. No. I I know I know you've never"}, {"start": "01:32:47", "end": "01:32:49", "text": ">> No. To me, it's it's the same"}, {"start": "01:32:48", "end": "01:32:51", "text": "trajectory."}, {"start": "01:32:49", "end": "01:32:53", "text": ">> Exactly. So these are all manifestations"}, {"start": "01:32:51", "end": "01:32:55", "text": "of a singular thing that all those"}, {"start": "01:32:53", "end": "01:32:57", "text": "things were born from. But here you are"}, {"start": "01:32:55", "end": "01:33:00", "text": "in this skiff now. I love it, dude."}, {"start": "01:32:57", "end": "01:33:02", "text": ">> But enough about me. This is this is the"}, {"start": "01:33:00", "end": "01:33:03", "text": "pro interviewer who who turning it on me"}, {"start": "01:33:02", "end": "01:33:04", "text": "here."}, {"start": "01:33:03", "end": "01:33:06", "text": ">> I thought you said we're just talking."}, {"start": "01:33:04", "end": "01:33:07", "text": ">> We are just talking. Um but I do have a"}, {"start": "01:33:06", "end": "01:33:07", "text": "lot of questions about this movie. Um"}, {"start": "01:33:07", "end": "01:33:09", "text": "I'll"}, {"start": "01:33:07", "end": "01:33:12", "text": ">> let you get to him."}, {"start": "01:33:09", "end": "01:33:14", "text": ">> One point I mean which you know there's"}, {"start": "01:33:12", "end": "01:33:15", "text": "a lot of footage of Bob Lazar in this"}, {"start": "01:33:14", "end": "01:33:17", "text": "movie as well that I've never seen which"}, {"start": "01:33:15", "end": "01:33:19", "text": "was really interesting."}, {"start": "01:33:17", "end": "01:33:20", "text": ">> And"}, {"start": "01:33:19", "end": "01:33:22", "text": "you know there's that moment where"}, {"start": "01:33:20", "end": "01:33:25", "text": "you're in the woods with Bob."}, {"start": "01:33:22", "end": "01:33:28", "text": ">> Mhm. And Bob go and you ask him flat"}, {"start": "01:33:25", "end": "01:33:29", "text": "out, you know, did you have a piece of"}, {"start": "01:33:28", "end": "01:33:29", "text": "115?"}, {"start": "01:33:29", "end": "01:33:33", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:33:29", "end": "01:33:35", "text": ">> And Bob says, I did."}, {"start": "01:33:33", "end": "01:33:38", "text": ">> Tell me about that day."}, {"start": "01:33:35", "end": "01:33:41", "text": ">> Oh [ __ ] Okay. Well, first of all, Bob"}, {"start": "01:33:38", "end": "01:33:42", "text": "said that a bunch already. That that's"}, {"start": "01:33:41", "end": "01:33:44", "text": "nothing new. And I think that's, you"}, {"start": "01:33:42", "end": "01:33:48", "text": "know, funny if people think so. Um Bob's"}, {"start": "01:33:44", "end": "01:33:50", "text": "told you it's it's all over everywhere."}, {"start": "01:33:48", "end": "01:33:53", "text": "At one point, if you believe Bob Lazar,"}, {"start": "01:33:50", "end": "01:33:56", "text": "he had a piece. And how we know that is"}, {"start": "01:33:53", "end": "01:33:59", "text": "George Knap is a witness to that in that"}, {"start": "01:33:56", "end": "01:34:03", "text": "the the container that the 115 was held"}, {"start": "01:33:59", "end": "01:34:05", "text": "in um was on the mantle of one of the"}, {"start": "01:34:03", "end": "01:34:07", "text": "interviews that George Knap did as like"}, {"start": "01:34:05", "end": "01:34:10", "text": "an Easter egg. It was next to some"}, {"start": "01:34:07", "end": "01:34:13", "text": "aerogel. And there's no secret that Bob"}, {"start": "01:34:10", "end": "01:34:17", "text": "had a piece of 115 at one point, right?"}, {"start": "01:34:13", "end": "01:34:20", "text": "Um he even at one point um I think"}, {"start": "01:34:17", "end": "01:34:22", "text": "George has told this story but at one"}, {"start": "01:34:20", "end": "01:34:25", "text": "point uh they did analysis a cloud"}, {"start": "01:34:22", "end": "01:34:27", "text": "chamber test just to see if Bob Bob was"}, {"start": "01:34:25", "end": "01:34:30", "text": "curious. He's like can I get a reaction"}, {"start": "01:34:27", "end": "01:34:33", "text": "in a cloud chamber test to see if it it"}, {"start": "01:34:30", "end": "01:34:34", "text": "actually does bend a laser. It does bend"}, {"start": "01:34:33", "end": "01:34:36", "text": "light. I mean this is straight out of"}, {"start": "01:34:34", "end": "01:34:38", "text": "that movie with like Val Kilmore um"}, {"start": "01:34:36", "end": "01:34:39", "text": "Genius. Real Genius. Do you remember"}, {"start": "01:34:38", "end": "01:34:39", "text": "that '8s movie?"}, {"start": "01:34:39", "end": "01:34:40", "text": ">> No, I don't."}, {"start": "01:34:39", "end": "01:34:43", "text": ">> You're welcome."}, {"start": "01:34:40", "end": "01:34:44", "text": ">> So You're Welcome. Real Genius the"}, {"start": "01:34:43", "end": "01:34:48", "text": "movie. So this is straight out of that."}, {"start": "01:34:44", "end": "01:34:53", "text": "So Lazar does a test, right? Um it is no"}, {"start": "01:34:48", "end": "01:34:54", "text": "secret that at one time Bazar had"}, {"start": "01:34:53", "end": "01:34:57", "text": "obtained"}, {"start": "01:34:54", "end": "01:35:00", "text": "a piece of 115."}, {"start": "01:34:57", "end": "01:35:01", "text": "So yeah, in in the movie where I fast"}, {"start": "01:35:00", "end": "01:35:03", "text": "forwarded, there's a lot that the world"}, {"start": "01:35:01", "end": "01:35:06", "text": "will never hear, I don't think, unless"}, {"start": "01:35:03", "end": "01:35:07", "text": "Bob says it. But like there's no secret"}, {"start": "01:35:06", "end": "01:35:10", "text": "in that. So you asked me about that day"}, {"start": "01:35:07", "end": "01:35:13", "text": "though, and that's a can. So let's just"}, {"start": "01:35:10", "end": "01:35:13", "text": "open it. Okay."}, {"start": "01:35:15", "end": "01:35:21", "text": "So, I'd been filming with Bob a bunch,"}, {"start": "01:35:19", "end": "01:35:23", "text": "but that wasn't easy. We're not going to"}, {"start": "01:35:21", "end": "01:35:25", "text": "get into that."}, {"start": "01:35:23", "end": "01:35:28", "text": "One day, he says, \"Are you coming out or"}, {"start": "01:35:25", "end": "01:35:29", "text": "not?\" essentially. And I was like,"}, {"start": "01:35:28", "end": "01:35:31", "text": "\"Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll come out to"}, {"start": "01:35:29", "end": "01:35:34", "text": "Michigan. Let's do that.\" But I didn't"}, {"start": "01:35:31", "end": "01:35:36", "text": "want to ask and then get denied. So, I"}, {"start": "01:35:34", "end": "01:35:37", "text": "really carefully just took my one camera"}, {"start": "01:35:36", "end": "01:35:39", "text": "and I put it underneath all of my"}, {"start": "01:35:37", "end": "01:35:41", "text": "clothes and I [ __ ] went out there and"}, {"start": "01:35:39", "end": "01:35:42", "text": "it's like this really awkward thing and"}, {"start": "01:35:41", "end": "01:35:44", "text": "I'm there. It's late at night and"}, {"start": "01:35:42", "end": "01:35:45", "text": "there's Joy and the pups and we're there"}, {"start": "01:35:44", "end": "01:35:49", "text": "and I'm in the living room. I remember"}, {"start": "01:35:45", "end": "01:35:52", "text": "this and then finally I just said, \"Bob,"}, {"start": "01:35:49", "end": "01:35:55", "text": "like why why am I here?\""}, {"start": "01:35:52", "end": "01:35:58", "text": "And he goes, \"What do you mean?\" And I'm"}, {"start": "01:35:55", "end": "01:36:00", "text": "like, \"Are you going to let me now turn"}, {"start": "01:35:58", "end": "01:36:01", "text": "on the camera so that the world can hear"}, {"start": "01:36:00", "end": "01:36:04", "text": "from you and not the [ __ ] about you"}, {"start": "01:36:01", "end": "01:36:05", "text": "from other people?\" He goes, of course"}, {"start": "01:36:04", "end": "01:36:07", "text": "that's why we're here. And it was this"}, {"start": "01:36:05", "end": "01:36:09", "text": "weird thing where I had become friends"}, {"start": "01:36:07", "end": "01:36:12", "text": "with him, but I I didn't want to"}, {"start": "01:36:09", "end": "01:36:14", "text": "disrespect that moment. I I wasn't sure"}, {"start": "01:36:12", "end": "01:36:17", "text": "why. It's obvious, I guess, now. So, I"}, {"start": "01:36:14", "end": "01:36:20", "text": "had my camera, my one or two cameras,"}, {"start": "01:36:17", "end": "01:36:22", "text": "and we filmed on that particular trip"}, {"start": "01:36:20", "end": "01:36:23", "text": "you're asking about was like a"}, {"start": "01:36:22", "end": "01:36:27", "text": "breakthrough. It was like he was ready"}, {"start": "01:36:23", "end": "01:36:29", "text": "to throw down for himself. And you have"}, {"start": "01:36:27", "end": "01:36:32", "text": "to rewind the tape, bro. I mean, he had"}, {"start": "01:36:29", "end": "01:36:34", "text": "never talked like he did in that room"}, {"start": "01:36:32", "end": "01:36:38", "text": "with me and John Lear. He had never"}, {"start": "01:36:34", "end": "01:36:40", "text": "asserted himself in that way on camera."}, {"start": "01:36:38", "end": "01:36:43", "text": "I know there are vehicles not made on"}, {"start": "01:36:40", "end": "01:36:44", "text": "Earth. I know they are made from a"}, {"start": "01:36:43", "end": "01:36:46", "text": "material we cannot duplicate. We cannot"}, {"start": "01:36:44", "end": "01:36:50", "text": "replicate and we never have been able"}, {"start": "01:36:46", "end": "01:36:52", "text": "to. Now, he goes, I was inside one. Now,"}, {"start": "01:36:50", "end": "01:36:58", "text": "I was inside one blah blah blah blah"}, {"start": "01:36:52", "end": "01:37:01", "text": "blah. That had never existed on camera."}, {"start": "01:36:58", "end": "01:37:03", "text": "I'm not sure it existed in him yet."}, {"start": "01:37:01", "end": "01:37:05", "text": ">> That the assertiveness, that [ __ ]"}, {"start": "01:37:03", "end": "01:37:07", "text": "pissed-offness. Anybody that knows Bob"}, {"start": "01:37:05", "end": "01:37:09", "text": "knows that he is a [ __ ] fighter. He"}, {"start": "01:37:07", "end": "01:37:13", "text": "is a really strong human, stronger than"}, {"start": "01:37:09", "end": "01:37:15", "text": "people know. But because he's Bob, which"}, {"start": "01:37:13", "end": "01:37:17", "text": "only means someone to someone that knows"}, {"start": "01:37:15", "end": "01:37:19", "text": "him cuz he's Bob,"}, {"start": "01:37:17", "end": "01:37:22", "text": "he doesn't feel the need. He doesn't"}, {"start": "01:37:19", "end": "01:37:22", "text": "feel the need to prove [ __ ] to you."}, {"start": "01:37:22", "end": "01:37:24", "text": ">> No, he really doesn't care."}, {"start": "01:37:22", "end": "01:37:26", "text": ">> No, he doesn't care. But you only know"}, {"start": "01:37:24", "end": "01:37:29", "text": "that cuz you know him."}, {"start": "01:37:26", "end": "01:37:31", "text": ">> So now there I am"}, {"start": "01:37:29", "end": "01:37:32", "text": "and we're we're [ __ ] doing it. Which,"}, {"start": "01:37:31", "end": "01:37:34", "text": "you know, which means like Fourth of"}, {"start": "01:37:32", "end": "01:37:36", "text": "July, we take my [ __ ] cool ass drone"}, {"start": "01:37:34", "end": "01:37:38", "text": "that I brought and we try to explode it,"}, {"start": "01:37:36", "end": "01:37:40", "text": "you know, with like [ __ ] fireworks."}, {"start": "01:37:38", "end": "01:37:45", "text": "But then"}, {"start": "01:37:40", "end": "01:37:48", "text": "we walk into the woods and you know"}, {"start": "01:37:45", "end": "01:37:52", "text": "woods meaning like on his property there"}, {"start": "01:37:48", "end": "01:37:54", "text": "and this was the day before I left which"}, {"start": "01:37:52", "end": "01:37:56", "text": "is important. We'll get back we'll get"}, {"start": "01:37:54", "end": "01:37:59", "text": "back to that. First whole day I filmed"}, {"start": "01:37:56", "end": "01:38:03", "text": "with him by the way. Um my car just uh"}, {"start": "01:37:59", "end": "01:38:04", "text": "took a [ __ ] that night and it's never to"}, {"start": "01:38:03", "end": "01:38:06", "text": "be retrieved again. I tried for 6"}, {"start": "01:38:04", "end": "01:38:08", "text": "months. So you know that's kind of funny"}, {"start": "01:38:06", "end": "01:38:09", "text": "right? first entire day course at his"}, {"start": "01:38:08", "end": "01:38:11", "text": "labs. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:38:09", "end": "01:38:12", "text": ">> Yeah. Took a [ __ ] never get it back."}, {"start": "01:38:11", "end": "01:38:14", "text": "And when I say took a [ __ ] I'll tell"}, {"start": "01:38:12", "end": "01:38:16", "text": "the truth. I think I [ __ ] hit delete."}, {"start": "01:38:14", "end": "01:38:17", "text": "I was so nervous that night and just"}, {"start": "01:38:16", "end": "01:38:19", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. I deleted it. So there you"}, {"start": "01:38:17", "end": "01:38:20", "text": "go. Truth's out."}, {"start": "01:38:19", "end": "01:38:22", "text": ">> Nobody asked. So I never had"}, {"start": "01:38:20", "end": "01:38:24", "text": ">> Was that really you or was that"}, {"start": "01:38:22", "end": "01:38:25", "text": "something acting through you?"}, {"start": "01:38:24", "end": "01:38:26", "text": ">> You know, bro, it worked out perfect."}, {"start": "01:38:25", "end": "01:38:29", "text": ">> It did work out."}, {"start": "01:38:26", "end": "01:38:33", "text": ">> Yeah. So, we're in the woods"}, {"start": "01:38:29", "end": "01:38:35", "text": "and just real talk, you know, um got a"}, {"start": "01:38:33", "end": "01:38:38", "text": "camera, you know, put the phones way way"}, {"start": "01:38:35", "end": "01:38:40", "text": "way far away. We talked about a lot of"}, {"start": "01:38:38", "end": "01:38:42", "text": "stuff and that's for Bob to talk about,"}, {"start": "01:38:40", "end": "01:38:44", "text": "not for me to talk about, but it was"}, {"start": "01:38:42", "end": "01:38:46", "text": "like an insurance policy, you know, I I"}, {"start": "01:38:44", "end": "01:38:48", "text": "believe you you have to ask him if he"}, {"start": "01:38:46", "end": "01:38:51", "text": "wants to even talk about it. So, there's"}, {"start": "01:38:48", "end": "01:38:55", "text": "nothing that you see in my movie Bazar"}, {"start": "01:38:51", "end": "01:38:56", "text": "Area 51 saucers. you see this sped up if"}, {"start": "01:38:55", "end": "01:38:58", "text": "I recall like I don't think I've watched"}, {"start": "01:38:56", "end": "01:39:01", "text": "the movie since I put it out"}, {"start": "01:38:58", "end": "01:39:02", "text": ">> but that clip and others I've I've put"}, {"start": "01:39:01", "end": "01:39:04", "text": "out that were kind of hit the cutting"}, {"start": "01:39:02", "end": "01:39:06", "text": "room floor as they used to say right but"}, {"start": "01:39:04", "end": "01:39:08", "text": "Bob acknowledging he had 115 he's done"}, {"start": "01:39:06", "end": "01:39:09", "text": "acknowledge that a thousand [ __ ]"}, {"start": "01:39:08", "end": "01:39:10", "text": "times other people have been other"}, {"start": "01:39:09", "end": "01:39:13", "text": "people were there they've all talked"}, {"start": "01:39:10", "end": "01:39:16", "text": "about it that's not news bro"}, {"start": "01:39:13", "end": "01:39:18", "text": ">> but what people should understand is"}, {"start": "01:39:16", "end": "01:39:20", "text": "what happened next because it's real and"}, {"start": "01:39:18", "end": "01:39:23", "text": "it happened and if you don't understand"}, {"start": "01:39:20", "end": "01:39:26", "text": "that you're not seeing reality. What"}, {"start": "01:39:23", "end": "01:39:31", "text": "happened next is I filmed for another"}, {"start": "01:39:26", "end": "01:39:34", "text": "day and we're at his um store call like"}, {"start": "01:39:31", "end": "01:39:35", "text": "it is a laboratory and a store. It was"}, {"start": "01:39:34", "end": "01:39:39", "text": "in Michigan"}, {"start": "01:39:35", "end": "01:39:42", "text": "and I pack up the camera, say goodbye,"}, {"start": "01:39:39", "end": "01:39:45", "text": "get on the plane, get home, I arrive at"}, {"start": "01:39:42", "end": "01:39:49", "text": "Burbank Airport. It's late, really late."}, {"start": "01:39:45", "end": "01:39:51", "text": "So, I go stay at my mom's place in Enino"}, {"start": "01:39:49", "end": "01:39:53", "text": "and all of a sudden my phone starts"}, {"start": "01:39:51", "end": "01:39:56", "text": "going bang bang bang bang bang bang bang"}, {"start": "01:39:53", "end": "01:39:57", "text": "bang like that just like crazy text. I"}, {"start": "01:39:56", "end": "01:39:59", "text": "[ __ ] told you, Jeremy. It was Gene"}, {"start": "01:39:57", "end": "01:40:01", "text": "Huff. I told you this would happen. I"}, {"start": "01:39:59", "end": "01:40:03", "text": "told you this would happen. And like"}, {"start": "01:40:01", "end": "01:40:04", "text": "George Knapp being like [ __ ] I"}, {"start": "01:40:03", "end": "01:40:06", "text": "told you this would happen,"}, {"start": "01:40:04", "end": "01:40:07", "text": "[ __ ] Cuz they're protective of"}, {"start": "01:40:06", "end": "01:40:10", "text": "Bob. And then there's this guy saying"}, {"start": "01:40:07", "end": "01:40:12", "text": "like, talk loudly."}, {"start": "01:40:10", "end": "01:40:13", "text": "Talk loudly."}, {"start": "01:40:12", "end": "01:40:17", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "01:40:13", "end": "01:40:19", "text": ">> Bam. get some photos. Photos are of an"}, {"start": "01:40:17", "end": "01:40:21", "text": "FBI raid."}, {"start": "01:40:19", "end": "01:40:22", "text": "I'm in the bathroom. Like all that stuff"}, {"start": "01:40:21", "end": "01:40:25", "text": "that's real. I didn't make that up for"}, {"start": "01:40:22", "end": "01:40:28", "text": "my movie. And everybody said that."}, {"start": "01:40:25", "end": "01:40:30", "text": "Everybody said I staged an FBI raid for"}, {"start": "01:40:28", "end": "01:40:33", "text": "my movie. Then they found out it was a"}, {"start": "01:40:30", "end": "01:40:36", "text": "real FBI raid. It was a multi- agency"}, {"start": "01:40:33", "end": "01:40:38", "text": "raid."}, {"start": "01:40:36", "end": "01:40:40", "text": "Then they said, well, they weren't"}, {"start": "01:40:38", "end": "01:40:44", "text": "looking for 115. Totally unrelated."}, {"start": "01:40:40", "end": "01:40:48", "text": "Nothing to see here. Move on. Okay."}, {"start": "01:40:44", "end": "01:40:49", "text": "Except I know that factually to be"}, {"start": "01:40:48", "end": "01:40:52", "text": "true"}, {"start": "01:40:49", "end": "01:40:53", "text": "that that was what they were looking"}, {"start": "01:40:52", "end": "01:40:54", "text": "for."}, {"start": "01:40:53", "end": "01:40:57", "text": ">> How?"}, {"start": "01:40:54", "end": "01:40:58", "text": ">> You're going to have to ask Bob and then"}, {"start": "01:40:57", "end": "01:40:59", "text": "if he wants to tell you, he'll tell you."}, {"start": "01:40:58", "end": "01:41:03", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "01:40:59", "end": "01:41:03", "text": ">> But um essentially"}, {"start": "01:41:05", "end": "01:41:07", "text": "covert"}, {"start": "01:41:06", "end": "01:41:08", "text": ">> cuz that was the second time they raided"}, {"start": "01:41:07", "end": "01:41:09", "text": "Bob's house"}, {"start": "01:41:08", "end": "01:41:11", "text": ">> at least."}, {"start": "01:41:09", "end": "01:41:13", "text": ">> At least right in New Mexico. They rated"}, {"start": "01:41:11", "end": "01:41:15", "text": "they rated him and the the the the"}, {"start": "01:41:13", "end": "01:41:16", "text": "reason that they gave was like um"}, {"start": "01:41:15", "end": "01:41:19", "text": "shipping"}, {"start": "01:41:16", "end": "01:41:21", "text": ">> of of hazardous materials. However, has"}, {"start": "01:41:19", "end": "01:41:23", "text": "Bob ever told you or Joy ever told you"}, {"start": "01:41:21", "end": "01:41:25", "text": "that the reason they were able to do"}, {"start": "01:41:23", "end": "01:41:26", "text": "that was because they were being doers"}, {"start": "01:41:25", "end": "01:41:28", "text": "and said, \"Well, we got this company and"}, {"start": "01:41:26", "end": "01:41:29", "text": "we're shipping all of these things and"}, {"start": "01:41:28", "end": "01:41:30", "text": "we might as well file the paperwork"}, {"start": "01:41:29", "end": "01:41:32", "text": "because I think there's a new law"}, {"start": "01:41:30", "end": "01:41:32", "text": "coming.\" They were ahead of the curve."}, {"start": "01:41:32", "end": "01:41:35", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "01:41:32", "end": "01:41:38", "text": ">> And that exposed them to the opportunity"}, {"start": "01:41:35", "end": "01:41:39", "text": "to raid them under that you say, is it"}, {"start": "01:41:38", "end": "01:41:42", "text": "the word?"}, {"start": "01:41:39", "end": "01:41:45", "text": ">> Okay. So then now, so I'll put it this I"}, {"start": "01:41:42", "end": "01:41:47", "text": "am convinced that it was for element"}, {"start": "01:41:45", "end": "01:41:49", "text": "115. It's not a retraction, it's a"}, {"start": "01:41:47", "end": "01:41:52", "text": "refinement. I am convinced and there's"}, {"start": "01:41:49", "end": "01:41:53", "text": "reason for me to be convinced. Now just"}, {"start": "01:41:52", "end": "01:41:57", "text": "talk to Bob about it. See what he wants"}, {"start": "01:41:53", "end": "01:42:02", "text": "to say. But I'll tell you this, they"}, {"start": "01:41:57", "end": "01:42:05", "text": "gritted off every 3 ft of his space."}, {"start": "01:42:02", "end": "01:42:06", "text": "They were really going through stuff,"}, {"start": "01:42:05", "end": "01:42:09", "text": "put it that way."}, {"start": "01:42:06", "end": "01:42:11", "text": "They even mirrored his computer"}, {"start": "01:42:09", "end": "01:42:14", "text": "which was very interesting to me and"}, {"start": "01:42:11", "end": "01:42:17", "text": "Bob."}, {"start": "01:42:14", "end": "01:42:20", "text": "I'll leave it there. So now they mirror"}, {"start": "01:42:17", "end": "01:42:22", "text": "his computer."}, {"start": "01:42:20", "end": "01:42:23", "text": "Still people are saying I don't want to"}, {"start": "01:42:22", "end": "01:42:25", "text": "believe. I don't want to believe is what"}, {"start": "01:42:23", "end": "01:42:27", "text": "they're really saying. They're saying he"}, {"start": "01:42:25", "end": "01:42:28", "text": "got raided because some chick died"}, {"start": "01:42:27", "end": "01:42:29", "text": "because of some material and this guy"}, {"start": "01:42:28", "end": "01:42:31", "text": "was a client. He might have the client"}, {"start": "01:42:29", "end": "01:42:33", "text": "list. If you talk to anybody in the FBI,"}, {"start": "01:42:31", "end": "01:42:37", "text": "which I called a bunch of friends in the"}, {"start": "01:42:33", "end": "01:42:40", "text": "FBI, and I asked them, \"Is this usual?\""}, {"start": "01:42:37", "end": "01:42:42", "text": "Nope. Is this normal? Nope. Is this"}, {"start": "01:42:40", "end": "01:42:44", "text": "protocol? Nope. You just what you do is"}, {"start": "01:42:42", "end": "01:42:46", "text": "you walk in and you say, \"Hey, Mr."}, {"start": "01:42:44", "end": "01:42:48", "text": "Lazar, there was somebody that died from"}, {"start": "01:42:46", "end": "01:42:51", "text": "a super heavy element or not you sorry"}, {"start": "01:42:48", "end": "01:42:53", "text": "died from a a rare element that is toxic"}, {"start": "01:42:51", "end": "01:42:55", "text": "and we see that you know you on your"}, {"start": "01:42:53", "end": "01:42:56", "text": "site you sell this but by the way it's"}, {"start": "01:42:55", "end": "01:42:58", "text": "this tiny little sliver that couldn't"}, {"start": "01:42:56", "end": "01:43:00", "text": "hurt a fly like in these little"}, {"start": "01:42:58", "end": "01:43:03", "text": "collector's packs right that you can buy"}, {"start": "01:43:00", "end": "01:43:05", "text": "anywhere so you call them and you say"}, {"start": "01:43:03", "end": "01:43:07", "text": "can I have the list of your clients and"}, {"start": "01:43:05", "end": "01:43:09", "text": "what exactly what they ordered that are"}, {"start": "01:43:07", "end": "01:43:11", "text": "associated with this federal case and"}, {"start": "01:43:09", "end": "01:43:14", "text": "then Lazar goes of course of course you"}, {"start": "01:43:11", "end": "01:43:16", "text": "can right that's not what happened. They"}, {"start": "01:43:14", "end": "01:43:19", "text": "[ __ ] locked his [ __ ] down with in a"}, {"start": "01:43:16", "end": "01:43:21", "text": "tiny ass town way smaller than your snow"}, {"start": "01:43:19", "end": "01:43:23", "text": "globe. Way smaller. And they locked that"}, {"start": "01:43:21", "end": "01:43:25", "text": "[ __ ] down and they [ __ ] tore it"}, {"start": "01:43:23", "end": "01:43:27", "text": "apart. They went through everything,"}, {"start": "01:43:25", "end": "01:43:30", "text": "mirrored his computer. It's like beyond"}, {"start": "01:43:27", "end": "01:43:31", "text": "overreaction. It was a It was a message."}, {"start": "01:43:30", "end": "01:43:32", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "01:43:31", "end": "01:43:35", "text": ">> It was a message to him because they"}, {"start": "01:43:32", "end": "01:43:39", "text": "knew for [ __ ] sure that like if he ever"}, {"start": "01:43:35", "end": "01:43:40", "text": "did have possession, he would never have"}, {"start": "01:43:39", "end": "01:43:42", "text": "it in Michigan. And you know what I"}, {"start": "01:43:40", "end": "01:43:44", "text": "mean? So So there you are. else. People"}, {"start": "01:43:42", "end": "01:43:48", "text": "still didn't believe,"}, {"start": "01:43:44", "end": "01:43:52", "text": "but there was what they call an"}, {"start": "01:43:48", "end": "01:43:54", "text": "assisting um report of local where"}, {"start": "01:43:52", "end": "01:43:56", "text": "they're assisting federal. And if you"}, {"start": "01:43:54", "end": "01:44:00", "text": "look at that report, what you're going"}, {"start": "01:43:56", "end": "01:44:04", "text": "to find out was the day before and the"}, {"start": "01:44:00", "end": "01:44:06", "text": "day of both his home and his business"}, {"start": "01:44:04", "end": "01:44:09", "text": "had the opportunity"}, {"start": "01:44:06", "end": "01:44:13", "text": "to be surveiled."}, {"start": "01:44:09", "end": "01:44:16", "text": "Hm. Something happened that day in those"}, {"start": "01:44:13", "end": "01:44:18", "text": "words that didn't make sense until you"}, {"start": "01:44:16", "end": "01:44:21", "text": "play the tape back, you know, like in"}, {"start": "01:44:18", "end": "01:44:25", "text": "your mind. So, so my point is that day"}, {"start": "01:44:21", "end": "01:44:27", "text": "you asked, I just described to you that"}, {"start": "01:44:25", "end": "01:44:30", "text": "day. That's what it was. It was a a"}, {"start": "01:44:27", "end": "01:44:32", "text": "realization moment for all of us, for"}, {"start": "01:44:30", "end": "01:44:34", "text": "me, for George Knap, for Bob. Because"}, {"start": "01:44:32", "end": "01:44:37", "text": "the hilarious thing that you don't see"}, {"start": "01:44:34", "end": "01:44:39", "text": "is um later in the woods in that"}, {"start": "01:44:37", "end": "01:44:43", "text": "footage, I don't think you ever see"}, {"start": "01:44:39", "end": "01:44:45", "text": "this. Um he go I go, \"Bob, are you like"}, {"start": "01:44:43", "end": "01:44:47", "text": "worried at all for your like personal"}, {"start": "01:44:45", "end": "01:44:49", "text": "safety?\" And and maybe I'll find this"}, {"start": "01:44:47", "end": "01:44:51", "text": "clip now and I could put this out if Bob"}, {"start": "01:44:49", "end": "01:44:54", "text": "says, \"Okay.\" But basically, you know,"}, {"start": "01:44:51", "end": "01:44:57", "text": "he says, \"No, I just my life has been"}, {"start": "01:44:54", "end": "01:44:59", "text": "great. It's been smooth sailing. I love"}, {"start": "01:44:57", "end": "01:45:01", "text": "my life. I don't want any disruption. I"}, {"start": "01:44:59", "end": "01:45:03", "text": "just want peace.\" Um, I think they've"}, {"start": "01:45:01", "end": "01:45:05", "text": "forgotten about me, which is good"}, {"start": "01:45:03", "end": "01:45:07", "text": "because I'm not doing [ __ ] I don't want"}, {"start": "01:45:05", "end": "01:45:09", "text": "to be involved. That was like that"}, {"start": "01:45:07", "end": "01:45:10", "text": "sentiment was recorded. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:45:09", "end": "01:45:13", "text": ">> At the very end of that in the forest."}, {"start": "01:45:10", "end": "01:45:15", "text": "I've never put that out. Holy [ __ ] was"}, {"start": "01:45:13", "end": "01:45:17", "text": "he wrong?"}, {"start": "01:45:15", "end": "01:45:20", "text": ">> Was he [ __ ] wrong?"}, {"start": "01:45:17", "end": "01:45:22", "text": ">> And we all who when we love somebody, we"}, {"start": "01:45:20", "end": "01:45:23", "text": "care about them as a friend, we all want"}, {"start": "01:45:22", "end": "01:45:26", "text": "them to have what they want if it's good"}, {"start": "01:45:23", "end": "01:45:28", "text": "for them. And for Lazar, it's peace,"}, {"start": "01:45:26", "end": "01:45:30", "text": "right? So, the worst thing he could do"}, {"start": "01:45:28", "end": "01:45:33", "text": "is let somebody make another movie about"}, {"start": "01:45:30", "end": "01:45:37", "text": "him. It's the worst thing he could do."}, {"start": "01:45:33", "end": "01:45:38", "text": "Or is it the best thing that he could do"}, {"start": "01:45:37", "end": "01:45:43", "text": "and I'm going with that?"}, {"start": "01:45:38", "end": "01:45:46", "text": ">> Yeah. I think I think you know"}, {"start": "01:45:43", "end": "01:45:48", "text": "this is his final attempt to just be"}, {"start": "01:45:46", "end": "01:45:50", "text": "like, \"Here's everything that I'll ever"}, {"start": "01:45:48", "end": "01:45:53", "text": "give you at all. Like, let's get it all"}, {"start": "01:45:50", "end": "01:45:55", "text": "out of the way. Let's go into the base."}, {"start": "01:45:53", "end": "01:45:56", "text": "I'll reconstruct the base for you, the"}, {"start": "01:45:55", "end": "01:45:58", "text": "ship, everything. Well, I'll tell you"}, {"start": "01:45:56", "end": "01:45:59", "text": "what these people look like. I'll do"}, {"start": "01:45:58", "end": "01:46:01", "text": "this. I'll do that. I'll just give you"}, {"start": "01:45:59", "end": "01:46:02", "text": "everything. That way, you can just leave"}, {"start": "01:46:01", "end": "01:46:05", "text": "me alone."}, {"start": "01:46:02", "end": "01:46:06", "text": ">> And you know that he's [ __ ] wrong."}, {"start": "01:46:05", "end": "01:46:09", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:46:06", "end": "01:46:09", "text": ">> Because it's just going to make people"}, {"start": "01:46:09", "end": "01:46:11", "text": "more hungry."}, {"start": "01:46:09", "end": "01:46:13", "text": ">> Oh. Uh,"}, {"start": "01:46:11", "end": "01:46:14", "text": ">> come on, bro. You know that's true."}, {"start": "01:46:13", "end": "01:46:18", "text": ">> Well,"}, {"start": "01:46:14", "end": "01:46:22", "text": ">> I I So, I see it both ways. I do see how"}, {"start": "01:46:18", "end": "01:46:25", "text": ">> Of course you do. He would"}, {"start": "01:46:22", "end": "01:46:26", "text": "once you give it all up, you think to"}, {"start": "01:46:25", "end": "01:46:28", "text": "yourself, well, I can't give you"}, {"start": "01:46:26", "end": "01:46:30", "text": "anymore. Of course, that's going to make"}, {"start": "01:46:28", "end": "01:46:33", "text": "people hungry. Of course, that's going"}, {"start": "01:46:30", "end": "01:46:35", "text": "to stoke the flame of people's"}, {"start": "01:46:33", "end": "01:46:39", "text": "curiosity."}, {"start": "01:46:35", "end": "01:46:42", "text": "But I also think it's a valiant effort"}, {"start": "01:46:39", "end": "01:46:47", "text": "on his behalf and a very brave step to"}, {"start": "01:46:42", "end": "01:46:50", "text": "take uh to a relive everything uh b dig"}, {"start": "01:46:47", "end": "01:46:54", "text": "it up and let people go through it again"}, {"start": "01:46:50", "end": "01:46:56", "text": "and and c try to go on with his merry"}, {"start": "01:46:54", "end": "01:47:00", "text": "existence"}, {"start": "01:46:56", "end": "01:47:01", "text": "um you know post releasing um a massive"}, {"start": "01:47:00", "end": "01:47:03", "text": "you know sort of project about about his"}, {"start": "01:47:01", "end": "01:47:05", "text": "life. Um,"}, {"start": "01:47:03", "end": "01:47:09", "text": ">> will this be good for him?"}, {"start": "01:47:05", "end": "01:47:10", "text": ">> I wish nothing but that for Bob."}, {"start": "01:47:09", "end": "01:47:12", "text": ">> Will it be good for him?"}, {"start": "01:47:10", "end": "01:47:14", "text": ">> M"}, {"start": "01:47:12", "end": "01:47:16", "text": "I think Bob knows"}, {"start": "01:47:14", "end": "01:47:16", "text": "that. And this is before the movie comes"}, {"start": "01:47:16", "end": "01:47:18", "text": "out."}, {"start": "01:47:16", "end": "01:47:20", "text": ">> Yeah, we're going to know by the time"}, {"start": "01:47:18", "end": "01:47:20", "text": "this airs if it was good for him as a"}, {"start": "01:47:20", "end": "01:47:22", "text": "human."}, {"start": "01:47:20", "end": "01:47:24", "text": ">> Bob's a smart guy. I think he knows"}, {"start": "01:47:22", "end": "01:47:25", "text": "there's a storm coming."}, {"start": "01:47:24", "end": "01:47:27", "text": ">> There is a storm coming."}, {"start": "01:47:25", "end": "01:47:29", "text": ">> And um"}, {"start": "01:47:27", "end": "01:47:32", "text": "yeah, I think he knows that. And I think"}, {"start": "01:47:29", "end": "01:47:34", "text": "he's uh you know like we we'll"}, {"start": "01:47:32", "end": "01:47:36", "text": "definitely see what happens. But you"}, {"start": "01:47:34", "end": "01:47:38", "text": "know there is no better antiseptic than"}, {"start": "01:47:36", "end": "01:47:41", "text": "Daylight in a lot of these cases. And"}, {"start": "01:47:38", "end": "01:47:44", "text": "and that's Bob's number one reason for"}, {"start": "01:47:41", "end": "01:47:44", "text": "coming out in the first place in 1989"}, {"start": "01:47:44", "end": "01:47:45", "text": "was"}, {"start": "01:47:44", "end": "01:47:48", "text": ">> the George [ __ ]"}, {"start": "01:47:45", "end": "01:47:50", "text": ">> exactly just put it out there. And I"}, {"start": "01:47:48", "end": "01:47:52", "text": "think that's his way of doing that again"}, {"start": "01:47:50", "end": "01:47:57", "text": "in a way that like also appeases people"}, {"start": "01:47:52", "end": "01:47:59", "text": "who just nag him for more information."}, {"start": "01:47:57", "end": "01:48:00", "text": "perhaps appeases a lot of the skeptics"}, {"start": "01:47:59", "end": "01:48:02", "text": "out there who had questions about"}, {"start": "01:48:00", "end": "01:48:03", "text": "certain aspects of the story."}, {"start": "01:48:02", "end": "01:48:06", "text": ">> He doesn't care about that."}, {"start": "01:48:03", "end": "01:48:09", "text": ">> No, but also, you know, good riddance if"}, {"start": "01:48:06", "end": "01:48:11", "text": "if that's the case and if they're"}, {"start": "01:48:09", "end": "01:48:13", "text": "they'll never be satisfied. But if some"}, {"start": "01:48:11", "end": "01:48:16", "text": "of them, you know, end up if I could say"}, {"start": "01:48:13", "end": "01:48:17", "text": "this, you know, the movie's been out,"}, {"start": "01:48:16", "end": "01:48:20", "text": "people have seen it, but anyone on the"}, {"start": "01:48:17", "end": "01:48:21", "text": "fence anyone on the fence at this point"}, {"start": "01:48:20", "end": "01:48:22", "text": "watches that movie and goes, \"Oh, no."}, {"start": "01:48:21", "end": "01:48:24", "text": ">> I haven't seen it.\""}, {"start": "01:48:22", "end": "01:48:24", "text": ">> Yeah. And I don't know. And you will see"}, {"start": "01:48:24", "end": "01:48:27", "text": "it."}, {"start": "01:48:24", "end": "01:48:28", "text": ">> I know. But anyone on the fence is now,"}, {"start": "01:48:27", "end": "01:48:29", "text": "you know, you've no reason to be on the"}, {"start": "01:48:28", "end": "01:48:30", "text": "fence anymore."}, {"start": "01:48:29", "end": "01:48:32", "text": ">> Okay, that's cool if the movie does"}, {"start": "01:48:30", "end": "01:48:33", "text": "that. Yeah. But that's my greatest fear"}, {"start": "01:48:32", "end": "01:48:36", "text": "for Bob. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:48:33", "end": "01:48:36", "text": ">> My fear is that more people will believe"}, {"start": "01:48:36", "end": "01:48:37", "text": "him."}, {"start": "01:48:36", "end": "01:48:39", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:48:37", "end": "01:48:42", "text": ">> Because it's true."}, {"start": "01:48:39", "end": "01:48:44", "text": ">> And my joke is,"}, {"start": "01:48:42", "end": "01:48:47", "text": ">> oh, Bob, look, what if everybody did"}, {"start": "01:48:44", "end": "01:48:49", "text": "believe you? How horrible. That would be"}, {"start": "01:48:47", "end": "01:48:52", "text": "horrible for you because the questions"}, {"start": "01:48:49", "end": "01:48:55", "text": "will never end. I I do hope that he"}, {"start": "01:48:52", "end": "01:48:57", "text": "maintains a sense of um bobness, you"}, {"start": "01:48:55", "end": "01:49:00", "text": "know, in the sense of like he has what"}, {"start": "01:48:57", "end": "01:49:04", "text": "he needs, which is peace. Like I don't"}, {"start": "01:49:00", "end": "01:49:05", "text": "think he gives a flying [ __ ] what you"}, {"start": "01:49:04", "end": "01:49:07", "text": "believe. I know that to be true. And so"}, {"start": "01:49:05", "end": "01:49:07", "text": "I anyway, just"}, {"start": "01:49:07", "end": "01:49:09", "text": ">> look um"}, {"start": "01:49:07", "end": "01:49:10", "text": ">> but all this is in the past because the"}, {"start": "01:49:09", "end": "01:49:10", "text": "movie is already out."}, {"start": "01:49:10", "end": "01:49:12", "text": ">> Time dilation"}, {"start": "01:49:10", "end": "01:49:14", "text": ">> and uh and it's already out there and"}, {"start": "01:49:12", "end": "01:49:15", "text": "and and Bob's doing well."}, {"start": "01:49:14", "end": "01:49:16", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "01:49:15", "end": "01:49:18", "text": ">> you know, we we can say that because"}, {"start": "01:49:16", "end": "01:49:19", "text": "we're in the future now and Bob's doing"}, {"start": "01:49:18", "end": "01:49:22", "text": "well. Um,"}, {"start": "01:49:19", "end": "01:49:25", "text": ">> I can relate to it in the sense that the"}, {"start": "01:49:22", "end": "01:49:26", "text": "only reason I'm letting this movie come"}, {"start": "01:49:25", "end": "01:49:29", "text": "out"}, {"start": "01:49:26", "end": "01:49:30", "text": ">> is because I believe"}, {"start": "01:49:29", "end": "01:49:30", "text": ">> in this movie you're talking about your"}, {"start": "01:49:30", "end": "01:49:32", "text": "movie."}, {"start": "01:49:30", "end": "01:49:32", "text": ">> Yeah. No, I'm talking about the movie"}, {"start": "01:49:32", "end": "01:49:33", "text": "about me."}, {"start": "01:49:32", "end": "01:49:34", "text": ">> Oh, yeah."}, {"start": "01:49:33", "end": "01:49:35", "text": ">> Right. That Michael made."}, {"start": "01:49:34", "end": "01:49:37", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "01:49:35", "end": "01:49:42", "text": ">> So, I'm just um I think the reason to do"}, {"start": "01:49:37", "end": "01:49:45", "text": "it is so that um it's all out there."}, {"start": "01:49:42", "end": "01:49:48", "text": "It's honest. It will leave people with"}, {"start": "01:49:45", "end": "01:49:48", "text": "big questions and they should be asking"}, {"start": "01:49:48", "end": "01:49:50", "text": "those questions."}, {"start": "01:49:48", "end": "01:49:50", "text": ">> Well, it's not all out there,"}, {"start": "01:49:50", "end": "01:49:52", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "01:49:50", "end": "01:49:53", "text": ">> You did hold some cards close to your"}, {"start": "01:49:52", "end": "01:49:54", "text": "chest and"}, {"start": "01:49:53", "end": "01:49:54", "text": ">> one card."}, {"start": "01:49:54", "end": "01:49:55", "text": ">> Well, there's a few."}, {"start": "01:49:54", "end": "01:49:57", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "01:49:55", "end": "01:50:01", "text": ">> I want Yeah. Well, I want to get to that"}, {"start": "01:49:57", "end": "01:50:03", "text": "as well. Um,"}, {"start": "01:50:01", "end": "01:50:06", "text": "obviously the culmination"}, {"start": "01:50:03", "end": "01:50:10", "text": "and the pinnacle sort of moment, the the"}, {"start": "01:50:06", "end": "01:50:15", "text": "the critical mass of this movie, the"}, {"start": "01:50:10", "end": "01:50:19", "text": "where where it ends up peaking is you"}, {"start": "01:50:15", "end": "01:50:21", "text": "dig up this lab, this this USB key,"}, {"start": "01:50:19", "end": "01:50:23", "text": ">> you plug it into your laptop. Now,"}, {"start": "01:50:21", "end": "01:50:26", "text": "you're sitting"}, {"start": "01:50:23", "end": "01:50:27", "text": "in some abandoned park. You crack open"}, {"start": "01:50:26", "end": "01:50:29", "text": "the laptop."}, {"start": "01:50:27", "end": "01:50:31", "text": ">> I remember. And now we get to see, and"}, {"start": "01:50:29", "end": "01:50:35", "text": "here's the interesting part, too. This"}, {"start": "01:50:31", "end": "01:50:37", "text": "is a little subtlety to, you know, how"}, {"start": "01:50:35", "end": "01:50:41", "text": "guarded you are about this information."}, {"start": "01:50:37", "end": "01:50:43", "text": "We're only seeing an over-the-shoulder"}, {"start": "01:50:41", "end": "01:50:46", "text": "view from the C. We're not seeing the"}, {"start": "01:50:43", "end": "01:50:50", "text": "actual footage. Um, you didn't, I'm"}, {"start": "01:50:46", "end": "01:50:52", "text": "assume, give access to that footage to"}, {"start": "01:50:50", "end": "01:50:54", "text": "anyone, which is why you're there"}, {"start": "01:50:52", "end": "01:50:55", "text": "showing it on camera on your laptop"}, {"start": "01:50:54", "end": "01:50:56", "text": "versus"}, {"start": "01:50:55", "end": "01:50:58", "text": ">> But you're wrong. You you do see some"}, {"start": "01:50:56", "end": "01:51:00", "text": "footage in the movie. You just forgot."}, {"start": "01:50:58", "end": "01:51:02", "text": ">> Oh, you see the whole footage? I thought"}, {"start": "01:51:00", "end": "01:51:04", "text": "it was just cropped in sort of"}, {"start": "01:51:02", "end": "01:51:05", "text": ">> No, no, you see some some You see some"}, {"start": "01:51:04", "end": "01:51:06", "text": "glimpses."}, {"start": "01:51:05", "end": "01:51:07", "text": ">> You see the footage, but"}, {"start": "01:51:06", "end": "01:51:09", "text": ">> And it's not about the footage."}, {"start": "01:51:07", "end": "01:51:11", "text": ">> Yeah, but you don't do you see the"}, {"start": "01:51:09", "end": "01:51:13", "text": "actual file."}, {"start": "01:51:11", "end": "01:51:14", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. You see you see clips of"}, {"start": "01:51:13", "end": "01:51:16", "text": "like for Let me give you an example."}, {"start": "01:51:14", "end": "01:51:18", "text": "Okay. Because um"}, {"start": "01:51:16", "end": "01:51:20", "text": ">> Oh, yes, you do. Okay. I'm remembering"}, {"start": "01:51:18", "end": "01:51:21", "text": "now. My bad. because a lot of it was"}, {"start": "01:51:20", "end": "01:51:22", "text": "like sort of over the shoulder, but then"}, {"start": "01:51:21", "end": "01:51:25", "text": "there are some things he puts."}, {"start": "01:51:22", "end": "01:51:26", "text": ">> I think he goes back in and it gives you"}, {"start": "01:51:25", "end": "01:51:29", "text": "what you think you want,"}, {"start": "01:51:26", "end": "01:51:31", "text": ">> right? So, okay, let me start this"}, {"start": "01:51:29", "end": "01:51:33", "text": "again. You're at the park bench."}, {"start": "01:51:31", "end": "01:51:35", "text": ">> You crack open the laptop. You put the"}, {"start": "01:51:33", "end": "01:51:37", "text": "USB key in. Now, we're seeing this"}, {"start": "01:51:35", "end": "01:51:40", "text": "massive trove"}, {"start": "01:51:37", "end": "01:51:42", "text": "of files that you've been collecting."}, {"start": "01:51:40", "end": "01:51:44", "text": "Uh, all sorts of very interesting file"}, {"start": "01:51:42", "end": "01:51:47", "text": "names. I must have paused it 12 times to"}, {"start": "01:51:44", "end": "01:51:50", "text": "just look at the names of the files. Did"}, {"start": "01:51:47", "end": "01:51:52", "text": "you notice how I am am dyslexic and"}, {"start": "01:51:50", "end": "01:51:53", "text": "misspelled the word three times?"}, {"start": "01:51:52", "end": "01:51:55", "text": ">> I did not."}, {"start": "01:51:53", "end": "01:51:58", "text": ">> Well, anyway, I did. I'm like, you know,"}, {"start": "01:51:55", "end": "01:52:02", "text": "and but the funny thing was is no, don't"}, {"start": "01:51:58", "end": "01:52:04", "text": "change anything. It has to be true. And"}, {"start": "01:52:02", "end": "01:52:06", "text": "and and so, yes, continue. I'm with you."}, {"start": "01:52:04", "end": "01:52:09", "text": "I'm remembering it."}, {"start": "01:52:06", "end": "01:52:12", "text": ">> Um, a lot of very intriguing footage."}, {"start": "01:52:09", "end": "01:52:15", "text": "Now, my question to you is,"}, {"start": "01:52:12", "end": "01:52:18", "text": "does this footage also come out when"}, {"start": "01:52:15", "end": "01:52:20", "text": "this movie does?"}, {"start": "01:52:18", "end": "01:52:24", "text": ">> Oh, weird question. Hold on. Let me wrap"}, {"start": "01:52:20", "end": "01:52:24", "text": "my brain around that for a second."}, {"start": "01:52:25", "end": "01:52:27", "text": "No."}, {"start": "01:52:26", "end": "01:52:30", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "01:52:27", "end": "01:52:32", "text": ">> Because"}, {"start": "01:52:30", "end": "01:52:34", "text": "some of it So, first of all, we're"}, {"start": "01:52:32", "end": "01:52:35", "text": "talking about footage, so we've missed"}, {"start": "01:52:34", "end": "01:52:36", "text": "the mark. So, let's"}, {"start": "01:52:35", "end": "01:52:37", "text": ">> No, I want I want to talk about the"}, {"start": "01:52:36", "end": "01:52:38", "text": "footage first."}, {"start": "01:52:37", "end": "01:52:41", "text": ">> Okay. So, the footage."}, {"start": "01:52:38", "end": "01:52:42", "text": ">> Yeah. You should have recognized some of"}, {"start": "01:52:41", "end": "01:52:43", "text": "it already."}, {"start": "01:52:42", "end": "01:52:46", "text": ">> I have. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:52:43", "end": "01:52:51", "text": ">> Okay. So, that tells you that some of it"}, {"start": "01:52:46", "end": "01:52:53", "text": "was worthy of public discourse."}, {"start": "01:52:51", "end": "01:52:55", "text": ">> You would see nothing that would harm"}, {"start": "01:52:53", "end": "01:52:56", "text": "national security even in especially in"}, {"start": "01:52:55", "end": "01:52:56", "text": "a movie."}, {"start": "01:52:56", "end": "01:53:00", "text": ">> Y"}, {"start": "01:52:56", "end": "01:53:02", "text": ">> Okay. Will more full versions of some of"}, {"start": "01:53:00", "end": "01:53:04", "text": "what you've seen come out? Yeah. Unless"}, {"start": "01:53:02", "end": "01:53:05", "text": "I'm [ __ ] stopped."}, {"start": "01:53:04", "end": "01:53:07", "text": ">> Mhm. Okay. That is my intent as a"}, {"start": "01:53:05", "end": "01:53:08", "text": "journalist with George is to put out"}, {"start": "01:53:07", "end": "01:53:09", "text": "everything we can"}, {"start": "01:53:08", "end": "01:53:10", "text": ">> because there's some interesting stuff"}, {"start": "01:53:09", "end": "01:53:11", "text": "there obviously."}, {"start": "01:53:10", "end": "01:53:11", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:53:11", "end": "01:53:14", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:53:11", "end": "01:53:16", "text": ">> Oh yeah. Oh but part of this is a shield"}, {"start": "01:53:14", "end": "01:53:18", "text": "like I'm trying to practice journalism"}, {"start": "01:53:16", "end": "01:53:21", "text": "in America. I have been very clear with"}, {"start": "01:53:18", "end": "01:53:23", "text": "every agency of concern that as"}, {"start": "01:53:21", "end": "01:53:26", "text": "journalists we believe we are living"}, {"start": "01:53:23", "end": "01:53:28", "text": "under the the first amendment right and"}, {"start": "01:53:26", "end": "01:53:29", "text": "we also believe that we have been pretty"}, {"start": "01:53:28", "end": "01:53:32", "text": "trusted because we haven't [ __ ] up and"}, {"start": "01:53:29", "end": "01:53:34", "text": "we don't intend to and that we have a"}, {"start": "01:53:32", "end": "01:53:38", "text": "methodical multi-year process not just"}, {"start": "01:53:34", "end": "01:53:40", "text": "to protect sources which is the a number"}, {"start": "01:53:38", "end": "01:53:42", "text": "one things protect the source especially"}, {"start": "01:53:40", "end": "01:53:44", "text": "when they do not but it is also like"}, {"start": "01:53:42", "end": "01:53:46", "text": "protect America but it's also like the"}, {"start": "01:53:44", "end": "01:53:48", "text": "truth [ __ ] matters and that's our"}, {"start": "01:53:46", "end": "01:53:50", "text": "duty as journal journalists. So, George"}, {"start": "01:53:48", "end": "01:53:52", "text": "and I did make a decision and you"}, {"start": "01:53:50", "end": "01:53:54", "text": "actually got to see the moment that"}, {"start": "01:53:52", "end": "01:53:57", "text": "decision was made. That was real. That"}, {"start": "01:53:54", "end": "01:53:59", "text": "happened just like you saw it and we"}, {"start": "01:53:57", "end": "01:54:02", "text": "made that decision. So, yes, Chris"}, {"start": "01:53:59", "end": "01:54:04", "text": "Ramsey, of course, after the movie comes"}, {"start": "01:54:02", "end": "01:54:06", "text": "out,"}, {"start": "01:54:04", "end": "01:54:10", "text": "whatever you had glimpses of, if we can"}, {"start": "01:54:06", "end": "01:54:10", "text": "make sure that it's um worthy of public"}, {"start": "01:54:10", "end": "01:54:11", "text": "debate,"}, {"start": "01:54:10", "end": "01:54:14", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:54:11", "end": "01:54:16", "text": ">> then as much there is of that will come"}, {"start": "01:54:14", "end": "01:54:17", "text": "out. But you're seeing the tip of an"}, {"start": "01:54:16", "end": "01:54:17", "text": "iceberg,"}, {"start": "01:54:17", "end": "01:54:19", "text": ">> of course."}, {"start": "01:54:17", "end": "01:54:22", "text": ">> But I want you to know that. I want"}, {"start": "01:54:19", "end": "01:54:24", "text": "everybody to know that because I need to"}, {"start": "01:54:22", "end": "01:54:26", "text": "make sure everybody believes that I live"}, {"start": "01:54:24", "end": "01:54:29", "text": "in America under the First Amendment"}, {"start": "01:54:26", "end": "01:54:34", "text": "being a journalism uh being in"}, {"start": "01:54:29", "end": "01:54:36", "text": "journalism because um it's not just"}, {"start": "01:54:34", "end": "01:54:39", "text": "videos that are important."}, {"start": "01:54:36", "end": "01:54:41", "text": ">> Nope. There's also a text file that I"}, {"start": "01:54:39", "end": "01:54:42", "text": "thought was really important as well."}, {"start": "01:54:41", "end": "01:54:43", "text": ">> Oh [ __ ] You paused the screen, didn't"}, {"start": "01:54:42", "end": "01:54:44", "text": "you? Oh yeah."}, {"start": "01:54:43", "end": "01:54:45", "text": ">> Oh [ __ ] I knew people were going to do"}, {"start": "01:54:44", "end": "01:54:46", "text": "that."}, {"start": "01:54:45", "end": "01:54:50", "text": ">> Yeah. And and there's a there's a note"}, {"start": "01:54:46", "end": "01:54:51", "text": "on the bottom of that uh shot as well,"}, {"start": "01:54:50", "end": "01:54:52", "text": ">> which is say"}, {"start": "01:54:51", "end": "01:54:54", "text": ">> um I forget what it says, but it's"}, {"start": "01:54:52", "end": "01:54:55", "text": "something like to be discussed or or"}, {"start": "01:54:54", "end": "01:54:56", "text": ">> Okay. I don't know what you're talking"}, {"start": "01:54:55", "end": "01:54:58", "text": "about. You're talking about at the"}, {"start": "01:54:56", "end": "01:54:59", "text": "beginning where um I got a whole [ __ ]"}, {"start": "01:54:58", "end": "01:55:02", "text": "treasure trove from"}, {"start": "01:54:59", "end": "01:55:04", "text": ">> No, no, that I saw cuz uh from the Los"}, {"start": "01:55:02", "end": "01:55:05", "text": "Alamo stuff. I saw John B. Alexander's"}, {"start": "01:55:04", "end": "01:55:07", "text": "name on there,"}, {"start": "01:55:05", "end": "01:55:07", "text": ">> right? Cuz he highlighted to make sure I"}, {"start": "01:55:07", "end": "01:55:08", "text": "saw it."}, {"start": "01:55:07", "end": "01:55:10", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:55:08", "end": "01:55:12", "text": ">> But if you look at those documents, um"}, {"start": "01:55:10", "end": "01:55:14", "text": "understand the premise."}, {"start": "01:55:12", "end": "01:55:17", "text": ">> Sure. I get stuff all the time. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:55:14", "end": "01:55:21", "text": "And I am not qualified as my lawyer"}, {"start": "01:55:17", "end": "01:55:24", "text": "would say to understand its value or not"}, {"start": "01:55:21", "end": "01:55:26", "text": "value um sensitivity. So I have to take"}, {"start": "01:55:24", "end": "01:55:30", "text": "time to make sure that I do no harm."}, {"start": "01:55:26", "end": "01:55:32", "text": "Right? That happens all the time to me."}, {"start": "01:55:30", "end": "01:55:34", "text": "I I have become a guy that people do"}, {"start": "01:55:32", "end": "01:55:36", "text": "that. Now when a package comes torn, it"}, {"start": "01:55:34", "end": "01:55:39", "text": "makes me wonder. So I I have to verify"}, {"start": "01:55:36", "end": "01:55:40", "text": "that everything is exactly as is because"}, {"start": "01:55:39", "end": "01:55:43", "text": "then that just means it got torn in the"}, {"start": "01:55:40", "end": "01:55:46", "text": "way there or it's been read and by who?"}, {"start": "01:55:43", "end": "01:55:48", "text": "By our government who is our you know"}, {"start": "01:55:46", "end": "01:55:51", "text": "who it's our government or by an"}, {"start": "01:55:48", "end": "01:55:54", "text": "adversarial government. Right. So there"}, {"start": "01:55:51", "end": "01:55:56", "text": "we go. I get a package. Now this is from"}, {"start": "01:55:54", "end": "01:55:58", "text": "the person who is head of cyber security"}, {"start": "01:55:56", "end": "01:56:01", "text": "at Los Alamos National Laboratory. when"}, {"start": "01:55:58", "end": "01:56:05", "text": "they died,"}, {"start": "01:56:01", "end": "01:56:06", "text": "um, his son mailed something to me and"}, {"start": "01:56:05", "end": "01:56:08", "text": "that's what you see at a beginning early"}, {"start": "01:56:06", "end": "01:56:10", "text": "scene in the movie and that that's real."}, {"start": "01:56:08", "end": "01:56:11", "text": ">> Yeah. The aerial anomalies and"}, {"start": "01:56:10", "end": "01:56:13", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "01:56:11", "end": "01:56:15", "text": ">> atmospheric anomalies was one tiny"}, {"start": "01:56:13", "end": "01:56:17", "text": "little file thing tucked away which is"}, {"start": "01:56:15", "end": "01:56:18", "text": "what the old schoolers used to do is"}, {"start": "01:56:17", "end": "01:56:20", "text": "they took their UFO files and used to"}, {"start": "01:56:18", "end": "01:56:20", "text": "call them atmospheric anomalies which is"}, {"start": "01:56:20", "end": "01:56:24", "text": "pretty cool."}, {"start": "01:56:20", "end": "01:56:25", "text": ">> Yeah. What uh Howard Menzel would call."}, {"start": "01:56:24", "end": "01:56:27", "text": ">> Yeah. Sure. But anyway, so then you're"}, {"start": "01:56:25", "end": "01:56:29", "text": "talking about something else that I am"}, {"start": "01:56:27", "end": "01:56:31", "text": "not tracking that was in the movie"}, {"start": "01:56:29", "end": "01:56:33", "text": "because I think you missed something."}, {"start": "01:56:31", "end": "01:56:34", "text": ">> Well, I'm talking about at the end"}, {"start": "01:56:33", "end": "01:56:36", "text": "there's another file,"}, {"start": "01:56:34", "end": "01:56:38", "text": ">> right? Was it kind of like gold or was"}, {"start": "01:56:36", "end": "01:56:39", "text": "it kind of like gold paper? Yep."}, {"start": "01:56:38", "end": "01:56:40", "text": ">> Yeah. Did you read the words? Oh, yeah."}, {"start": "01:56:39", "end": "01:56:44", "text": "Okay. Talk."}, {"start": "01:56:40", "end": "01:56:46", "text": ">> And um it's it's it's"}, {"start": "01:56:44", "end": "01:56:47", "text": "alluding to a cleanup."}, {"start": "01:56:46", "end": "01:56:50", "text": ">> Yes, sir."}, {"start": "01:56:47", "end": "01:56:53", "text": ">> Of an of alien bodies."}, {"start": "01:56:50", "end": "01:56:55", "text": ">> Uh alien bio. I'm not sure what it said."}, {"start": "01:56:53", "end": "01:56:57", "text": "Didn't say it. I didn't say bodies."}, {"start": "01:56:55", "end": "01:57:00", "text": ">> No. No. Biosynthetic organisms."}, {"start": "01:56:57", "end": "01:57:01", "text": ">> Were the exact words. There's a word in"}, {"start": "01:57:00", "end": "01:57:03", "text": "there that was really tripping me out."}, {"start": "01:57:01", "end": "01:57:04", "text": ">> Yeah. Symbiotic."}, {"start": "01:57:03", "end": "01:57:07", "text": ">> Symbiotic. That's right. Yeah. They were"}, {"start": "01:57:04", "end": "01:57:11", "text": "afraid that the aliens that the bio"}, {"start": "01:57:07", "end": "01:57:13", "text": "symbiotic alien whatever had infiltrated"}, {"start": "01:57:11", "end": "01:57:15", "text": "the local population,"}, {"start": "01:57:13", "end": "01:57:20", "text": ">> which"}, {"start": "01:57:15", "end": "01:57:22", "text": "is inc is such a sci-fi thing to read."}, {"start": "01:57:20", "end": "01:57:24", "text": ">> What does a symbiotic relationship mean?"}, {"start": "01:57:22", "end": "01:57:26", "text": ">> Yeah. You get something and you give in"}, {"start": "01:57:24", "end": "01:57:27", "text": "return and you're both kind of um you're"}, {"start": "01:57:26", "end": "01:57:28", "text": "both getting something out of the"}, {"start": "01:57:27", "end": "01:57:30", "text": "relationship."}, {"start": "01:57:28", "end": "01:57:32", "text": ">> It's that thing that goes into the"}, {"start": "01:57:30", "end": "01:57:33", "text": "grasshopper I think and takes over its"}, {"start": "01:57:32", "end": "01:57:35", "text": "brain and makes it go drown."}, {"start": "01:57:33", "end": "01:57:36", "text": ">> That's not symbiotic. No, that's"}, {"start": "01:57:35", "end": "01:57:37", "text": "parasitic."}, {"start": "01:57:36", "end": "01:57:38", "text": ">> Oh, thank God."}, {"start": "01:57:37", "end": "01:57:40", "text": ">> Yeah. I would say symbiotic would be"}, {"start": "01:57:38", "end": "01:57:42", "text": "more like the hippopotamus and those"}, {"start": "01:57:40", "end": "01:57:43", "text": "little birds that live on its back where"}, {"start": "01:57:42", "end": "01:57:45", "text": "they're both benefiting."}, {"start": "01:57:43", "end": "01:57:46", "text": ">> Mutually beneficial for survival."}, {"start": "01:57:45", "end": "01:57:47", "text": ">> That's right."}, {"start": "01:57:46", "end": "01:57:47", "text": ">> Is that right? If we looked at"}, {"start": "01:57:47", "end": "01:57:49", "text": "dictionary."}, {"start": "01:57:47", "end": "01:57:49", "text": ">> Yes. Yeah, that would be accurate."}, {"start": "01:57:49", "end": "01:57:54", "text": ">> Thank god."}, {"start": "01:57:49", "end": "01:57:56", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. Um, so that what I also"}, {"start": "01:57:54", "end": "01:57:58", "text": "found interesting is that there's phone"}, {"start": "01:57:56", "end": "01:57:59", "text": "numbers on the bottom of that. Did you"}, {"start": "01:57:58", "end": "01:58:00", "text": "mean to not redact that?"}, {"start": "01:57:59", "end": "01:58:01", "text": ">> Well, we redacted other things."}, {"start": "01:58:00", "end": "01:58:02", "text": ">> You redacted the names."}, {"start": "01:58:01", "end": "01:58:03", "text": ">> Yeah. Well, those phone numbers must be"}, {"start": "01:58:02", "end": "01:58:04", "text": "okay then."}, {"start": "01:58:03", "end": "01:58:06", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "01:58:04", "end": "01:58:07", "text": ">> People might want to call them if they"}, {"start": "01:58:06", "end": "01:58:07", "text": "still exist."}, {"start": "01:58:07", "end": "01:58:09", "text": ">> I'll call them."}, {"start": "01:58:07", "end": "01:58:10", "text": ">> But you always hold something back as a"}, {"start": "01:58:09", "end": "01:58:11", "text": "magician."}, {"start": "01:58:10", "end": "01:58:13", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "01:58:11", "end": "01:58:15", "text": ">> And you do that for two reasons."}, {"start": "01:58:13", "end": "01:58:19", "text": ">> To sniff out [ __ ]"}, {"start": "01:58:15", "end": "01:58:22", "text": ">> and as your right or usually your right"}, {"start": "01:58:19", "end": "01:58:24", "text": "punch. or sometimes your left hook"}, {"start": "01:58:22", "end": "01:58:26", "text": "because the or an uppercut, something"}, {"start": "01:58:24", "end": "01:58:28", "text": "you don't see coming, right? So the jab"}, {"start": "01:58:26", "end": "01:58:29", "text": "puts people at distance and everybody"}, {"start": "01:58:28", "end": "01:58:31", "text": "knows this bomb is coming. But then the"}, {"start": "01:58:29", "end": "01:58:33", "text": "other one's the hook or the uppercut."}, {"start": "01:58:31", "end": "01:58:35", "text": "You hide those a little bit because they"}, {"start": "01:58:33", "end": "01:58:37", "text": "they have so many knockouts from those,"}, {"start": "01:58:35", "end": "01:58:40", "text": "right? So, as a journalist, you always"}, {"start": "01:58:37", "end": "01:58:43", "text": "keep stuff to one find out who's going"}, {"start": "01:58:40", "end": "01:58:45", "text": "to come to you with [ __ ] after like"}, {"start": "01:58:43", "end": "01:58:47", "text": "names associated with those phone"}, {"start": "01:58:45", "end": "01:58:50", "text": "numbers."}, {"start": "01:58:47", "end": "01:58:52", "text": ">> Or that's your uppercut or left hook,"}, {"start": "01:58:50", "end": "01:58:55", "text": "the knockouts."}, {"start": "01:58:52", "end": "01:58:56", "text": ">> Can I can I grab that screen grab real"}, {"start": "01:58:55", "end": "01:58:57", "text": "quick?"}, {"start": "01:58:56", "end": "01:58:58", "text": ">> Yeah. I mean, it's out."}, {"start": "01:58:57", "end": "01:59:00", "text": ">> I want to uh"}, {"start": "01:58:58", "end": "01:59:01", "text": ">> by the time this talk is it's out."}, {"start": "01:59:00", "end": "01:59:02", "text": ">> That's true."}, {"start": "01:59:01", "end": "01:59:04", "text": ">> Yeah, you can read away."}, {"start": "01:59:02", "end": "01:59:05", "text": ">> I want to I'll take a second here."}, {"start": "01:59:04", "end": "01:59:07", "text": "Because of time dilation, I'm going to"}, {"start": "01:59:05", "end": "01:59:10", "text": "put this phone this way so no one ever"}, {"start": "01:59:07", "end": "01:59:14", "text": "knows now if the clocks are accurate."}, {"start": "01:59:10", "end": "01:59:16", "text": ">> Uh, let me go"}, {"start": "01:59:14", "end": "01:59:18", "text": ">> cuz that clock's supposed to keep you"}, {"start": "01:59:16", "end": "01:59:20", "text": "real. But I don't trust that clock."}, {"start": "01:59:18", "end": "01:59:21", "text": ">> Oh, well, you can trust it."}, {"start": "01:59:20", "end": "01:59:24", "text": ">> Really?"}, {"start": "01:59:21", "end": "01:59:26", "text": ">> Yep. That's why it's there. Gives people"}, {"start": "01:59:24", "end": "01:59:28", "text": "a reference to when these conversations"}, {"start": "01:59:26", "end": "01:59:30", "text": "happened. Just like the Bob Lazar"}, {"start": "01:59:28", "end": "01:59:32", "text": "conversation I had recently. People will"}, {"start": "01:59:30", "end": "01:59:34", "text": "see on that if they, you know, watch"}, {"start": "01:59:32", "end": "01:59:35", "text": "that. Wow."}, {"start": "01:59:34", "end": "01:59:36", "text": ">> If they look at the clock and pay"}, {"start": "01:59:35", "end": "01:59:38", "text": "attention, they know when that"}, {"start": "01:59:36", "end": "01:59:42", "text": "conversation happened. It was It was uh"}, {"start": "01:59:38", "end": "01:59:45", "text": "over a year ago. Um all right, let's get"}, {"start": "01:59:42", "end": "01:59:46", "text": "to there. I'm I'm fast forwarding."}, {"start": "01:59:45", "end": "01:59:50", "text": ">> Take your time"}, {"start": "01:59:46", "end": "01:59:50", "text": ">> through your movie now."}, {"start": "01:59:50", "end": "01:59:57", "text": "The skiff. Look at this place, man."}, {"start": "01:59:55", "end": "01:59:58", "text": ">> I think there's sodium penithol in this."}, {"start": "01:59:57", "end": "01:59:59", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "01:59:58", "end": "02:00:00", "text": ">> not enough."}, {"start": "01:59:59", "end": "02:00:03", "text": ">> And 115."}, {"start": "02:00:00", "end": "02:00:04", "text": ">> Not enough, apparently."}, {"start": "02:00:03", "end": "02:00:04", "text": "No, I'm being straightforward, right?"}, {"start": "02:00:04", "end": "02:00:06", "text": "I'm gonna answer your question. Yeah,"}, {"start": "02:00:04", "end": "02:00:08", "text": "you are. If if I don't, just stop me as"}, {"start": "02:00:06", "end": "02:00:08", "text": "a friend and be like, \"Dude, answer my"}, {"start": "02:00:08", "end": "02:00:11", "text": "question.\""}, {"start": "02:00:08", "end": "02:00:14", "text": ">> Yeah, I will. Um, and I trust you will."}, {"start": "02:00:11", "end": "02:00:15", "text": "No, you're doing a good job. Sorry, this"}, {"start": "02:00:14", "end": "02:00:16", "text": "is taking a second here."}, {"start": "02:00:15", "end": "02:00:19", "text": ">> I hate interviews where you ask somebody"}, {"start": "02:00:16", "end": "02:00:22", "text": "something they don't answer."}, {"start": "02:00:19", "end": "02:00:24", "text": ">> What's uh"}, {"start": "02:00:22", "end": "02:00:25", "text": "who is your most evasive interview?"}, {"start": "02:00:24", "end": "02:00:27", "text": "While I pull this up,"}, {"start": "02:00:25", "end": "02:00:29", "text": ">> I mean, it was the first two years of"}, {"start": "02:00:27", "end": "02:00:30", "text": "filming John Lear was the most evasive"}, {"start": "02:00:29", "end": "02:00:32", "text": "interview. Okay. But who's the most"}, {"start": "02:00:30", "end": "02:00:34", "text": "evasive interview of somebody of"}, {"start": "02:00:32", "end": "02:00:35", "text": "somebody credible who you believe to be"}, {"start": "02:00:34", "end": "02:00:36", "text": "credible?"}, {"start": "02:00:35", "end": "02:00:38", "text": ">> Well, I believe John Leer was credible"}, {"start": "02:00:36", "end": "02:00:39", "text": "at being John Leer."}, {"start": "02:00:38", "end": "02:00:40", "text": ">> Yeah. Okay. That doesn't that doesn't go"}, {"start": "02:00:39", "end": "02:00:41", "text": "very far."}, {"start": "02:00:40", "end": "02:00:43", "text": ">> Well, I'm trying to really think here."}, {"start": "02:00:41", "end": "02:00:45", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "02:00:43", "end": "02:00:46", "text": ">> like would you say would it be a"}, {"start": "02:00:45", "end": "02:00:48", "text": "politician?"}, {"start": "02:00:46", "end": "02:00:50", "text": ">> They're not public. So, so the Yeah. The"}, {"start": "02:00:48", "end": "02:00:51", "text": "interviews that are the most evasive are"}, {"start": "02:00:50", "end": "02:00:53", "text": "like my everyday. I eat them for"}, {"start": "02:00:51", "end": "02:00:55", "text": "breakfast, lunch, and dinner. I call"}, {"start": "02:00:53", "end": "02:00:57", "text": "people who are in the intelligence"}, {"start": "02:00:55", "end": "02:01:00", "text": "community and they have a job to do and"}, {"start": "02:00:57", "end": "02:01:03", "text": "sometimes they're trying to get dirt on"}, {"start": "02:01:00", "end": "02:01:04", "text": "me so that they can manipulate that"}, {"start": "02:01:03", "end": "02:01:06", "text": "later. And also sometimes people just"}, {"start": "02:01:04", "end": "02:01:09", "text": "have a duty, you know, but the most"}, {"start": "02:01:06", "end": "02:01:11", "text": "evasive are like when an intelligence"}, {"start": "02:01:09", "end": "02:01:12", "text": "agent calls me up with badge contact and"}, {"start": "02:01:11", "end": "02:01:14", "text": "they tell me they're going to do"}, {"start": "02:01:12", "end": "02:01:16", "text": "something really great for UFOs. They're"}, {"start": "02:01:14", "end": "02:01:18", "text": "going to find the truth and then you"}, {"start": "02:01:16", "end": "02:01:19", "text": "know 9 months into these conversations"}, {"start": "02:01:18", "end": "02:01:22", "text": "my lawyer is like, \"Do not talk with"}, {"start": "02:01:19", "end": "02:01:24", "text": "that agency.\" And then 9 months into"}, {"start": "02:01:22", "end": "02:01:25", "text": "that when I told my lawyer, \"Oh, [ __ ]"}, {"start": "02:01:24", "end": "02:01:26", "text": "no. I'm going to talk to him because I"}, {"start": "02:01:25", "end": "02:01:28", "text": "want to [ __ ] find out what's going on"}, {"start": "02:01:26", "end": "02:01:31", "text": "if I, you know, don't get to the last.\""}, {"start": "02:01:28", "end": "02:01:34", "text": "It's when they try to entrap me with"}, {"start": "02:01:31", "end": "02:01:36", "text": "false information to see where I put it."}, {"start": "02:01:34", "end": "02:01:40", "text": "That's the most evasive conversation cuz"}, {"start": "02:01:36", "end": "02:01:40", "text": "they're being evasive."}, {"start": "02:01:40", "end": "02:01:44", "text": ">> Feels like uh feels like you got to be a"}, {"start": "02:01:43", "end": "02:01:45", "text": "magician just to navigate this"}, {"start": "02:01:44", "end": "02:01:47", "text": "territory."}, {"start": "02:01:45", "end": "02:01:51", "text": ">> [ __ ] dude. I hope I'm doing okay. All"}, {"start": "02:01:47", "end": "02:01:54", "text": "right. Got it here. So, EPA form"}, {"start": "02:01:51", "end": "02:01:55", "text": "2070-12, right? Attached. EPA. What does"}, {"start": "02:01:54", "end": "02:01:58", "text": "that stand for?"}, {"start": "02:01:55", "end": "02:01:58", "text": ">> Environmental Protection Act maybe."}, {"start": "02:01:58", "end": "02:02:00", "text": ">> Whoa."}, {"start": "02:01:58", "end": "02:02:00", "text": ">> I'm not sure. People are better acronyms"}, {"start": "02:02:00", "end": "02:02:02", "text": "than me."}, {"start": "02:02:00", "end": "02:02:04", "text": ">> Cost estimate attached."}, {"start": "02:02:02", "end": "02:02:09", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "02:02:04", "end": "02:02:12", "text": "um proposed activities."}, {"start": "02:02:09", "end": "02:02:17", "text": "A site investigation SI should be"}, {"start": "02:02:12", "end": "02:02:21", "text": "undertaken to determine alien inorganic"}, {"start": "02:02:17", "end": "02:02:23", "text": "alien inorganic compounds or other"}, {"start": "02:02:21", "end": "02:02:26", "text": "biochemicals"}, {"start": "02:02:23", "end": "02:02:30", "text": "have been disposed of at this site. and"}, {"start": "02:02:26", "end": "02:02:32", "text": "to determine the presence and or extent"}, {"start": "02:02:30", "end": "02:02:35", "text": "of any soil"}, {"start": "02:02:32", "end": "02:02:39", "text": "and groundwater contamination that may"}, {"start": "02:02:35", "end": "02:02:43", "text": "be the result of materials disposed of"}, {"start": "02:02:39", "end": "02:02:47", "text": "at this site. Local residents should be"}, {"start": "02:02:43", "end": "02:02:52", "text": "checked for evidence that they are being"}, {"start": "02:02:47", "end": "02:02:54", "text": "symbiotically manipulated by surviving"}, {"start": "02:02:52", "end": "02:02:57", "text": "aliens."}, {"start": "02:02:54", "end": "02:02:59", "text": "That sounds like something out of a bad"}, {"start": "02:02:57", "end": "02:03:00", "text": "science fiction novel. Like it's crazy."}, {"start": "02:02:59", "end": "02:03:03", "text": ">> Exactly."}, {"start": "02:03:00", "end": "02:03:05", "text": ">> The word aliens is used so flippantly"}, {"start": "02:03:03", "end": "02:03:07", "text": "here. It's not"}, {"start": "02:03:05", "end": "02:03:10", "text": ">> biologicals."}, {"start": "02:03:07", "end": "02:03:13", "text": "It's not, you know, extra tempestrial."}, {"start": "02:03:10", "end": "02:03:14", "text": "It's nothing. It's aliens in lower caps."}, {"start": "02:03:13", "end": "02:03:16", "text": "In lower case,"}, {"start": "02:03:14", "end": "02:03:17", "text": ">> what year would that have been? Cur"}, {"start": "02:03:16", "end": "02:03:22", "text": "curiously, if people probably figure"}, {"start": "02:03:17", "end": "02:03:24", "text": "that one out like the online sleuths,"}, {"start": "02:03:22", "end": "02:03:24", "text": "what year? Right. I'm not asking you."}, {"start": "02:03:24", "end": "02:03:25", "text": "I'm I'm I'm saying"}, {"start": "02:03:24", "end": "02:03:28", "text": ">> Yeah. I'm trying to figure it out."}, {"start": "02:03:25", "end": "02:03:30", "text": ">> I'm saying what you're doing by allowing"}, {"start": "02:03:28", "end": "02:03:34", "text": "that piece of paper to be shown"}, {"start": "02:03:30", "end": "02:03:36", "text": ">> is you're saying help. You're saying so"}, {"start": "02:03:34", "end": "02:03:37", "text": "did you look at the file structures?"}, {"start": "02:03:36", "end": "02:03:40", "text": "There were some that were like high"}, {"start": "02:03:37", "end": "02:03:43", "text": "confidence or verified UAP. There was a"}, {"start": "02:03:40", "end": "02:03:46", "text": "bunch of names in there. So this one"}, {"start": "02:03:43", "end": "02:03:49", "text": "I have and George has for many many"}, {"start": "02:03:46", "end": "02:03:52", "text": "years. We got to a point where obviously"}, {"start": "02:03:49", "end": "02:03:56", "text": "we believe at least that is worthy of"}, {"start": "02:03:52", "end": "02:04:01", "text": "public discourse. I can confidently say"}, {"start": "02:03:56", "end": "02:04:02", "text": "at this time that that did not get"}, {"start": "02:04:01", "end": "02:04:06", "text": "transmitted"}, {"start": "02:04:02", "end": "02:04:08", "text": "through unsecure fashions. Okay. So"}, {"start": "02:04:06", "end": "02:04:09", "text": ">> a document like that would come in"}, {"start": "02:04:08", "end": "02:04:13", "text": ">> that's an official document"}, {"start": "02:04:09", "end": "02:04:17", "text": ">> like it would be received in a skiff"}, {"start": "02:04:13", "end": "02:04:19", "text": ">> on a certain type of line to get it in"}, {"start": "02:04:17", "end": "02:04:21", "text": "from a confidential. I'm going to say"}, {"start": "02:04:19", "end": "02:04:23", "text": "the word with a big C is confidential"}, {"start": "02:04:21", "end": "02:04:26", "text": "because I'm not qualified to say the"}, {"start": "02:04:23", "end": "02:04:29", "text": "other C word confidential into another"}, {"start": "02:04:26", "end": "02:04:32", "text": "confidential area. You reading between"}, {"start": "02:04:29", "end": "02:04:34", "text": "the lines? Yeah. Okay. So there we are."}, {"start": "02:04:32", "end": "02:04:36", "text": "And then I know that there was a"}, {"start": "02:04:34", "end": "02:04:38", "text": "reaction"}, {"start": "02:04:36", "end": "02:04:42", "text": "uh in that room"}, {"start": "02:04:38", "end": "02:04:45", "text": ">> and I obviously somebody thought that"}, {"start": "02:04:42", "end": "02:04:47", "text": "fake or not fake that it was worthy of"}, {"start": "02:04:45", "end": "02:04:50", "text": "possibly"}, {"start": "02:04:47", "end": "02:04:51", "text": "um removing that from that confidential"}, {"start": "02:04:50", "end": "02:04:54", "text": "place"}, {"start": "02:04:51", "end": "02:04:56", "text": "where it comes to a journalist. So"}, {"start": "02:04:54", "end": "02:04:59", "text": "that's a big risk to take for [ __ ]"}, {"start": "02:04:56", "end": "02:05:02", "text": ">> Yeah, that's um that's a crime"}, {"start": "02:04:59", "end": "02:05:04", "text": ">> here. Now the other side of the Yes, it"}, {"start": "02:05:02", "end": "02:05:05", "text": "is a crime. The other side of the coin,"}, {"start": "02:05:04", "end": "02:05:06", "text": "but not by me."}, {"start": "02:05:05", "end": "02:05:07", "text": ">> Sure. No. No."}, {"start": "02:05:06", "end": "02:05:08", "text": ">> But that's a big risk."}, {"start": "02:05:07", "end": "02:05:10", "text": ">> But that's a big risk."}, {"start": "02:05:08", "end": "02:05:11", "text": ">> That's a crime. Absolutely. It doesn't"}, {"start": "02:05:10", "end": "02:05:13", "text": "matter what that is."}, {"start": "02:05:11", "end": "02:05:13", "text": ">> No, you you smuggled something out of a"}, {"start": "02:05:13", "end": "02:05:16", "text": "skiff."}, {"start": "02:05:13", "end": "02:05:18", "text": ">> So that's real. Now the other side of"}, {"start": "02:05:16", "end": "02:05:22", "text": "the coin is I also know from personal"}, {"start": "02:05:18", "end": "02:05:25", "text": "experience not in this case because uh"}, {"start": "02:05:22", "end": "02:05:28", "text": "the duration of which I sit on material"}, {"start": "02:05:25", "end": "02:05:30", "text": "and bullet test it and go as far as I"}, {"start": "02:05:28", "end": "02:05:33", "text": "can and then I can't go any further"}, {"start": "02:05:30", "end": "02:05:36", "text": "without compromising things. So I get to"}, {"start": "02:05:33", "end": "02:05:40", "text": "a point where I have to stop. Okay."}, {"start": "02:05:36", "end": "02:05:44", "text": "The other side of that coin is that"}, {"start": "02:05:40", "end": "02:05:48", "text": "I also know not a prank. I also know"}, {"start": "02:05:44", "end": "02:05:53", "text": "that there is intentional disinformation"}, {"start": "02:05:48", "end": "02:05:55", "text": "given to real actual unknowing people in"}, {"start": "02:05:53", "end": "02:05:56", "text": "that confidential setting"}, {"start": "02:05:55", "end": "02:05:59", "text": ">> passage material."}, {"start": "02:05:56", "end": "02:06:02", "text": ">> Okay, there we go. So for your audience"}, {"start": "02:05:59", "end": "02:06:06", "text": "and that that is also real."}, {"start": "02:06:02", "end": "02:06:10", "text": "This is not that right. This is not"}, {"start": "02:06:06", "end": "02:06:12", "text": "passage material. So now I am spinning."}, {"start": "02:06:10", "end": "02:06:14", "text": "I'm spinning, right? And I'm like,"}, {"start": "02:06:12", "end": "02:06:16", "text": "\"Okay, this is not passage material, but"}, {"start": "02:06:14", "end": "02:06:18", "text": "that's two on the nose. What's going on?"}, {"start": "02:06:16", "end": "02:06:21", "text": "I don't understand.\" You imagine that's"}, {"start": "02:06:18", "end": "02:06:24", "text": "one page out of many, right? You'd"}, {"start": "02:06:21", "end": "02:06:26", "text": "imagine that there's traceable things"}, {"start": "02:06:24", "end": "02:06:29", "text": "like bank account numbers to black"}, {"start": "02:06:26", "end": "02:06:30", "text": "programs. You'd imagine. So, if I"}, {"start": "02:06:29", "end": "02:06:32", "text": "imagined that,"}, {"start": "02:06:30", "end": "02:06:33", "text": ">> so this is not the only piece of paper"}, {"start": "02:06:32", "end": "02:06:33", "text": "that was"}, {"start": "02:06:33", "end": "02:06:36", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "02:06:33", "end": "02:06:37", "text": ">> Okay. There's a whole other set of files"}, {"start": "02:06:36", "end": "02:06:39", "text": "attached to that"}, {"start": "02:06:37", "end": "02:06:41", "text": ">> allegedly. And is that is that what"}, {"start": "02:06:39", "end": "02:06:43", "text": "we're seeing at the end of this frame"}, {"start": "02:06:41", "end": "02:06:45", "text": "here? Is that like all these other"}, {"start": "02:06:43", "end": "02:06:46", "text": "biologics"}, {"start": "02:06:45", "end": "02:06:48", "text": "that are in this folder? Right. So"}, {"start": "02:06:46", "end": "02:06:49", "text": "there's quite a few. Yeah."}, {"start": "02:06:48", "end": "02:06:50", "text": ">> Cash number four."}, {"start": "02:06:49", "end": "02:06:51", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "02:06:50", "end": "02:06:52", "text": ">> Cash number four."}, {"start": "02:06:51", "end": "02:06:56", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "02:06:52", "end": "02:06:58", "text": ">> So as time progresses,"}, {"start": "02:06:56", "end": "02:07:02", "text": "you never revisit"}, {"start": "02:06:58", "end": "02:07:05", "text": "a cash unless you have to. Okay."}, {"start": "02:07:02", "end": "02:07:05", "text": "Um,"}, {"start": "02:07:07", "end": "02:07:17", "text": "so as you add to caches,"}, {"start": "02:07:12", "end": "02:07:18", "text": "um, your files grow bigger, right? I So"}, {"start": "02:07:17", "end": "02:07:21", "text": "I think I have a little fear in me right"}, {"start": "02:07:18", "end": "02:07:23", "text": "now. So I'm just I'm I'm not stuttering."}, {"start": "02:07:21", "end": "02:07:24", "text": "I'm trying not to stutter. So I'm like"}, {"start": "02:07:23", "end": "02:07:26", "text": "trying to speak"}, {"start": "02:07:24", "end": "02:07:27", "text": ">> thoughtfully. And that's hard for me"}, {"start": "02:07:26", "end": "02:07:29", "text": "sometimes. What you see is what you get,"}, {"start": "02:07:27", "end": "02:07:31", "text": "dude. From the heart to the mouth. No"}, {"start": "02:07:29", "end": "02:07:35", "text": "filter. But I'm I'm trying to put a"}, {"start": "02:07:31", "end": "02:07:38", "text": "little filter here. So"}, {"start": "02:07:35", "end": "02:07:42", "text": "your core question is maybe why is that"}, {"start": "02:07:38", "end": "02:07:44", "text": "in the movie? For what purpose? And the"}, {"start": "02:07:42", "end": "02:07:47", "text": "other core question is probably do you"}, {"start": "02:07:44", "end": "02:07:51", "text": "trust it? Am I accurate? Are those two"}, {"start": "02:07:47", "end": "02:07:52", "text": "important questions to you?"}, {"start": "02:07:51", "end": "02:07:53", "text": ">> Yeah, I those are both things I'm"}, {"start": "02:07:52", "end": "02:07:57", "text": "curious about."}, {"start": "02:07:53", "end": "02:08:01", "text": ">> Okay. So,"}, {"start": "02:07:57", "end": "02:08:03", "text": "I trust that that is"}, {"start": "02:08:01", "end": "02:08:05", "text": "a memo"}, {"start": "02:08:03", "end": "02:08:08", "text": "that was never supposed to be in public"}, {"start": "02:08:05", "end": "02:08:14", "text": "domain. I trust that"}, {"start": "02:08:08", "end": "02:08:14", "text": "for whatever that means that I know"}, {"start": "02:08:14", "end": "02:08:21", "text": "I allowed it"}, {"start": "02:08:18", "end": "02:08:23", "text": "to be in the movie because I think it is"}, {"start": "02:08:21", "end": "02:08:26", "text": "worthy of public discourse"}, {"start": "02:08:23", "end": "02:08:30", "text": "and investigation."}, {"start": "02:08:26", "end": "02:08:32", "text": "And I have reached my limit"}, {"start": "02:08:30", "end": "02:08:34", "text": "for now."}, {"start": "02:08:32", "end": "02:08:36", "text": "And I am hoping that with the tiny bit"}, {"start": "02:08:34", "end": "02:08:40", "text": "that is there,"}, {"start": "02:08:36", "end": "02:08:42", "text": "we're going to learn what's true and not"}, {"start": "02:08:40", "end": "02:08:45", "text": "true about that page."}, {"start": "02:08:42", "end": "02:08:45", "text": ">> Is this the biggest"}, {"start": "02:08:46", "end": "02:08:51", "text": "release in your opinion"}, {"start": "02:08:49", "end": "02:08:52", "text": "that you've been a part of this"}, {"start": "02:08:51", "end": "02:08:54", "text": "particular document here? Do you think?"}, {"start": "02:08:52", "end": "02:08:57", "text": ">> I have not been a part of the release of"}, {"start": "02:08:54", "end": "02:08:58", "text": "that document. You all you see is a page"}, {"start": "02:08:57", "end": "02:09:01", "text": "on a movie."}, {"start": "02:08:58", "end": "02:09:02", "text": ">> Yes. But if this document were to be"}, {"start": "02:09:01", "end": "02:09:04", "text": "released,"}, {"start": "02:09:02", "end": "02:09:04", "text": ">> if this document were to find itself"}, {"start": "02:09:04", "end": "02:09:05", "text": ">> No,"}, {"start": "02:09:04", "end": "02:09:07", "text": ">> no,"}, {"start": "02:09:05", "end": "02:09:07", "text": ">> no, no. There's a lot about to happen."}, {"start": "02:09:07", "end": "02:09:10", "text": ">> Really?"}, {"start": "02:09:07", "end": "02:09:12", "text": ">> Yeah. Um, and not not just I'm not"}, {"start": "02:09:10", "end": "02:09:14", "text": "talking about just me and George Knap,"}, {"start": "02:09:12", "end": "02:09:17", "text": "you know, that there's when when I say"}, {"start": "02:09:14", "end": "02:09:18", "text": "there is an army of whistleblowers"}, {"start": "02:09:17", "end": "02:09:21", "text": "ready to come forward. I went on the"}, {"start": "02:09:18", "end": "02:09:23", "text": "news and I said there are three"}, {"start": "02:09:21", "end": "02:09:25", "text": "firsthand people willing to raise their"}, {"start": "02:09:23", "end": "02:09:26", "text": "hands. Now, we can debate all day what"}, {"start": "02:09:25", "end": "02:09:28", "text": "first 10 means, but when I say there's"}, {"start": "02:09:26", "end": "02:09:31", "text": "an army of whistleblowers,"}, {"start": "02:09:28", "end": "02:09:33", "text": ">> that's to me an army is is more than 12."}, {"start": "02:09:31", "end": "02:09:35", "text": "It's more than 24. It's, you know, it's"}, {"start": "02:09:33", "end": "02:09:37", "text": "more than 36."}, {"start": "02:09:35", "end": "02:09:40", "text": ">> Um,"}, {"start": "02:09:37", "end": "02:09:42", "text": ">> I'm not that's not that's not an that is"}, {"start": "02:09:40", "end": "02:09:44", "text": "a true statement. That is a factual"}, {"start": "02:09:42", "end": "02:09:47", "text": "statement. So, is this the bigot? No."}, {"start": "02:09:44", "end": "02:09:49", "text": "This is just a piece of paper that"}, {"start": "02:09:47", "end": "02:09:53", "text": "requires participation"}, {"start": "02:09:49", "end": "02:09:55", "text": "with magic with a K."}, {"start": "02:09:53", "end": "02:09:57", "text": "Does that answer your question?"}, {"start": "02:09:55", "end": "02:09:59", "text": ">> Yeah, it does. Yeah, thanks for sharing"}, {"start": "02:09:57", "end": "02:10:00", "text": "that. I mean, that's obviously going to"}, {"start": "02:09:59", "end": "02:10:03", "text": "be,"}, {"start": "02:10:00", "end": "02:10:05", "text": "you know, that just to like get off that"}, {"start": "02:10:03", "end": "02:10:07", "text": "last document before we move on."}, {"start": "02:10:05", "end": "02:10:09", "text": ">> [ __ ]"}, {"start": "02:10:07", "end": "02:10:10", "text": ">> It's one of those to me it's one of"}, {"start": "02:10:09", "end": "02:10:12", "text": "those things that like, you know, those"}, {"start": "02:10:10", "end": "02:10:15", "text": "old MJ12 documents,"}, {"start": "02:10:12", "end": "02:10:17", "text": ">> those that just read like Yeah. They're,"}, {"start": "02:10:15", "end": "02:10:19", "text": "you know, the Psalm one."}, {"start": "02:10:17", "end": "02:10:20", "text": ">> Oh, let me back up. Yeah. It's [ __ ]"}, {"start": "02:10:19", "end": "02:10:21", "text": "absurd."}, {"start": "02:10:20", "end": "02:10:22", "text": ">> Absolutely."}, {"start": "02:10:21", "end": "02:10:25", "text": ">> Yes. It's silly."}, {"start": "02:10:22", "end": "02:10:27", "text": ">> Mhm. Yeah, it's silly. It's whimsical."}, {"start": "02:10:25", "end": "02:10:30", "text": "The whole,"}, {"start": "02:10:27", "end": "02:10:32", "text": ">> you know, symbiosis thing. So weird. I"}, {"start": "02:10:30", "end": "02:10:34", "text": "don't even know what to make of that."}, {"start": "02:10:32", "end": "02:10:37", "text": ">> Where I live in California, there are"}, {"start": "02:10:34", "end": "02:10:40", "text": "people who've spent 30 years plus"}, {"start": "02:10:37", "end": "02:10:42", "text": "running companies for disposal,"}, {"start": "02:10:40", "end": "02:10:46", "text": "aerospace disposal."}, {"start": "02:10:42", "end": "02:10:48", "text": "And if you were to infiltrate their"}, {"start": "02:10:46", "end": "02:10:51", "text": "ranks,"}, {"start": "02:10:48", "end": "02:10:53", "text": "you would find out that it is a known"}, {"start": "02:10:51", "end": "02:10:56", "text": "thing"}, {"start": "02:10:53", "end": "02:10:59", "text": "that there are what or they'll call them"}, {"start": "02:10:56", "end": "02:11:02", "text": "organic and inorganic compounds that"}, {"start": "02:10:59", "end": "02:11:04", "text": "have to be driven. What's an inorganic"}, {"start": "02:11:02", "end": "02:11:08", "text": "compound"}, {"start": "02:11:04", "end": "02:11:08", "text": "that can"}, {"start": "02:11:08", "end": "02:11:13", "text": "act as like some symbiotic"}, {"start": "02:11:10", "end": "02:11:14", "text": ">> Mhm. have a symbiotic relationship with"}, {"start": "02:11:13", "end": "02:11:17", "text": "humans."}, {"start": "02:11:14", "end": "02:11:23", "text": ">> What do you know about carbon based life"}, {"start": "02:11:17", "end": "02:11:23", "text": "verse other forms of life?"}, {"start": "02:11:23", "end": "02:11:28", "text": ">> Right. But I mean, but but even even"}, {"start": "02:11:25", "end": "02:11:30", "text": "other forms of life is still organic."}, {"start": "02:11:28", "end": "02:11:31", "text": ">> Um cybernetic,"}, {"start": "02:11:30", "end": "02:11:33", "text": ">> you know, inorganic. So you're think"}, {"start": "02:11:31", "end": "02:11:35", "text": "you're think you're thinking synthetic"}, {"start": "02:11:33", "end": "02:11:37", "text": "like some type of like"}, {"start": "02:11:35", "end": "02:11:38", "text": ">> this is above my pay grade, but I'll"}, {"start": "02:11:37", "end": "02:11:40", "text": "I'll say this"}, {"start": "02:11:38", "end": "02:11:41", "text": ">> just just we're speculating."}, {"start": "02:11:40", "end": "02:11:43", "text": ">> Okay. Oh, speculating"}, {"start": "02:11:41", "end": "02:11:43", "text": ">> like what are we talking about? AI robot"}, {"start": "02:11:43", "end": "02:11:47", "text": "aliens."}, {"start": "02:11:43", "end": "02:11:49", "text": ">> Okay, so um there how the theory goes is"}, {"start": "02:11:47", "end": "02:11:54", "text": "that"}, {"start": "02:11:49", "end": "02:11:56", "text": "just as we print liver, heart cells,"}, {"start": "02:11:54", "end": "02:11:58", "text": "organs in space, which we do."}, {"start": "02:11:56", "end": "02:12:00", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "02:11:58", "end": "02:12:04", "text": ">> Um"}, {"start": "02:12:00", "end": "02:12:07", "text": "you can print"}, {"start": "02:12:04", "end": "02:12:07", "text": "biologics."}, {"start": "02:12:07", "end": "02:12:10", "text": "So cybernetic, if people have a"}, {"start": "02:12:09", "end": "02:12:13", "text": "dictionary because I don't know for"}, {"start": "02:12:10", "end": "02:12:18", "text": "sure, but cybernetic would be this idea"}, {"start": "02:12:13", "end": "02:12:23", "text": "of an um like an organic compound"}, {"start": "02:12:18", "end": "02:12:25", "text": "that at its core is like a robot, right?"}, {"start": "02:12:23", "end": "02:12:28", "text": "So an artificial intelligence within a"}, {"start": "02:12:25", "end": "02:12:31", "text": "biological bag, right?"}, {"start": "02:12:28", "end": "02:12:33", "text": ">> So the idea with like the grays or"}, {"start": "02:12:31", "end": "02:12:34", "text": "whatever, you know, people often say, so"}, {"start": "02:12:33", "end": "02:12:37", "text": "they're like basically manufactured"}, {"start": "02:12:34", "end": "02:12:40", "text": "beings, right? And they're cybernetic."}, {"start": "02:12:37", "end": "02:12:42", "text": "So they're they're they're organic"}, {"start": "02:12:40", "end": "02:12:43", "text": ">> to me. Cybernetic means like wires and"}, {"start": "02:12:42", "end": "02:12:44", "text": "stuff because"}, {"start": "02:12:43", "end": "02:12:46", "text": ">> Oh, maybe it does"}, {"start": "02:12:44", "end": "02:12:47", "text": ">> because they're saying inorganic."}, {"start": "02:12:46", "end": "02:12:48", "text": ">> Well, that's different. We're getting to"}, {"start": "02:12:47", "end": "02:12:50", "text": "that. But you asked"}, {"start": "02:12:48", "end": "02:12:51", "text": ">> because inorganic means"}, {"start": "02:12:50", "end": "02:12:54", "text": ">> Well, I don't know."}, {"start": "02:12:51", "end": "02:12:57", "text": ">> Not an organism."}, {"start": "02:12:54", "end": "02:12:59", "text": ">> Look, you do the math. What I'm telling"}, {"start": "02:12:57", "end": "02:13:02", "text": "you is that there are people that"}, {"start": "02:12:59", "end": "02:13:05", "text": "transport from California in and I've"}, {"start": "02:13:02", "end": "02:13:07", "text": "seen them these buildings that um are"}, {"start": "02:13:05", "end": "02:13:09", "text": "nondescript and they have like high"}, {"start": "02:13:07", "end": "02:13:12", "text": "security and you would never know what"}, {"start": "02:13:09", "end": "02:13:13", "text": "goes on in those buildings um unless you"}, {"start": "02:13:12", "end": "02:13:15", "text": "get people that go inside and those"}, {"start": "02:13:13", "end": "02:13:18", "text": "people that go inside in full hazmat"}, {"start": "02:13:15", "end": "02:13:21", "text": "suits, right? Sometimes they will do a"}, {"start": "02:13:18", "end": "02:13:23", "text": "cleanup and they will package it up and"}, {"start": "02:13:21", "end": "02:13:26", "text": "now depending on its classification they"}, {"start": "02:13:23", "end": "02:13:28", "text": "will then create lists and the lists if"}, {"start": "02:13:26", "end": "02:13:32", "text": "it's unclassified material it's a very"}, {"start": "02:13:28", "end": "02:13:34", "text": "specific type of thing 3.3%"}, {"start": "02:13:32", "end": "02:13:37", "text": "this 3.4% 4% that I mean everything's"}, {"start": "02:13:34", "end": "02:13:38", "text": "listed. Totally different protocol of"}, {"start": "02:13:37", "end": "02:13:40", "text": "classification for other stuff. If"}, {"start": "02:13:38", "end": "02:13:43", "text": "something is you know top secret or"}, {"start": "02:13:40", "end": "02:13:45", "text": "above as we commonly know it um totally"}, {"start": "02:13:43", "end": "02:13:48", "text": "different protocol but either way that"}, {"start": "02:13:45", "end": "02:13:51", "text": "shit's going inside of trucks it is"}, {"start": "02:13:48", "end": "02:13:54", "text": "going to often times most often than not"}, {"start": "02:13:51", "end": "02:13:58", "text": "um Dougway where they have a special"}, {"start": "02:13:54", "end": "02:14:00", "text": "burner and that burner is a non um what"}, {"start": "02:13:58", "end": "02:14:03", "text": "is it called? Uh like it it doesn't"}, {"start": "02:14:00", "end": "02:14:04", "text": "combustion. No. Um high like super hot,"}, {"start": "02:14:03", "end": "02:14:07", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "02:14:04", "end": "02:14:09", "text": ">> Um what it does is it's a non like where"}, {"start": "02:14:07", "end": "02:14:10", "text": "it permeates out, whatever the word is."}, {"start": "02:14:09", "end": "02:14:12", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "02:14:10", "end": "02:14:13", "text": ">> um there there's a word a really good"}, {"start": "02:14:12", "end": "02:14:15", "text": "word and it basically means that it"}, {"start": "02:14:13", "end": "02:14:17", "text": "doesn't leave that containment. Okay."}, {"start": "02:14:15", "end": "02:14:19", "text": ">> So even to the point where you crush up"}, {"start": "02:14:17", "end": "02:14:20", "text": "the carbon filters and just swallow"}, {"start": "02:14:19", "end": "02:14:22", "text": "everything"}, {"start": "02:14:20", "end": "02:14:24", "text": ">> like Yeah. So it swallows everything. So"}, {"start": "02:14:22", "end": "02:14:27", "text": "it's nonpermeating. It doesn't go out."}, {"start": "02:14:24", "end": "02:14:30", "text": "Right. And you know, you talk to people"}, {"start": "02:14:27", "end": "02:14:32", "text": "who have done this for their lives and"}, {"start": "02:14:30", "end": "02:14:34", "text": "they're part of this little club and"}, {"start": "02:14:32", "end": "02:14:36", "text": "they'll walk in with like a full-on"}, {"start": "02:14:34", "end": "02:14:37", "text": "hazmat and where's the bathroom? I mean,"}, {"start": "02:14:36", "end": "02:14:39", "text": "it's like right out of a comedy, right?"}, {"start": "02:14:37", "end": "02:14:41", "text": "Like where's the bathroom? And then like"}, {"start": "02:14:39", "end": "02:14:43", "text": "people inside, they don't see the"}, {"start": "02:14:41", "end": "02:14:44", "text": "sunlight a lot in a lot of ways. You"}, {"start": "02:14:43", "end": "02:14:46", "text": "know, they're they're really But if"}, {"start": "02:14:44", "end": "02:14:48", "text": "you're in there, you must be on the"}, {"start": "02:14:46", "end": "02:14:49", "text": "level cuz if you're on the level, you"}, {"start": "02:14:48", "end": "02:14:50", "text": "wouldn't be if you weren't on the level,"}, {"start": "02:14:49", "end": "02:14:53", "text": "you wouldn't be in there. And then"}, {"start": "02:14:50", "end": "02:14:54", "text": "they're showing you a [ __ ] sphere"}, {"start": "02:14:53", "end": "02:14:56", "text": "that's [ __ ] just hovering and you're"}, {"start": "02:14:54", "end": "02:14:57", "text": "like, \"How does that happen?\" You know"}, {"start": "02:14:56", "end": "02:14:59", "text": "what I mean? How does that Whoa, that's"}, {"start": "02:14:57", "end": "02:15:01", "text": "pretty cool. Where's the bathroom again?"}, {"start": "02:14:59", "end": "02:15:03", "text": "But they just can't stop. They They get"}, {"start": "02:15:01", "end": "02:15:04", "text": "it off their chest. They can't stop"}, {"start": "02:15:03", "end": "02:15:06", "text": "because they don't have a lot of people"}, {"start": "02:15:04", "end": "02:15:08", "text": "to talk to that are new faces, right?"}, {"start": "02:15:06", "end": "02:15:11", "text": ">> So then you you collect this stuff and"}, {"start": "02:15:08", "end": "02:15:13", "text": "then you take it out, let's say, to Doug"}, {"start": "02:15:11", "end": "02:15:15", "text": "Way, um the town. there's this burner"}, {"start": "02:15:13", "end": "02:15:17", "text": "out there and you got a list that"}, {"start": "02:15:15", "end": "02:15:19", "text": "doesn't say [ __ ] because it's, you know,"}, {"start": "02:15:17", "end": "02:15:20", "text": "cuz of classification and you just, you"}, {"start": "02:15:19", "end": "02:15:22", "text": "know, you wouldn't really know tons of,"}, {"start": "02:15:20", "end": "02:15:24", "text": "you know, all the chemicals you deal"}, {"start": "02:15:22", "end": "02:15:26", "text": "with, you know, organic and inorganic"}, {"start": "02:15:24", "end": "02:15:28", "text": "compounds, which we'll figure out later."}, {"start": "02:15:26", "end": "02:15:31", "text": "And you take it and I'd be like, well,"}, {"start": "02:15:28", "end": "02:15:35", "text": "so what's the deal? What's the deal if"}, {"start": "02:15:31", "end": "02:15:39", "text": "it's a known secret that you are moving"}, {"start": "02:15:35", "end": "02:15:41", "text": "what you're saying are alien organic and"}, {"start": "02:15:39", "end": "02:15:44", "text": "inorganic compounds? We're not talking"}, {"start": "02:15:41", "end": "02:15:46", "text": "like rocket fuel that needs to be like,"}, {"start": "02:15:44", "end": "02:15:47", "text": "you know, perfectly fixed and, you know,"}, {"start": "02:15:46", "end": "02:15:50", "text": "run off from this or that. We're talking"}, {"start": "02:15:47", "end": "02:15:52", "text": "aliens here. Okay. So, if that was true,"}, {"start": "02:15:50", "end": "02:15:54", "text": "right, then I'd be like, like, how do"}, {"start": "02:15:52", "end": "02:15:56", "text": "you know? Like, how do you know that"}, {"start": "02:15:54", "end": "02:15:59", "text": "that is true? And somebody would say"}, {"start": "02:15:56", "end": "02:16:03", "text": "something like and and I'm like, why?"}, {"start": "02:15:59", "end": "02:16:04", "text": "Like, why is it so harmful other than I"}, {"start": "02:16:03", "end": "02:16:06", "text": "get secrecy, but that's not what you're"}, {"start": "02:16:04", "end": "02:16:09", "text": "doing. You're doing destruction. So,"}, {"start": "02:16:06", "end": "02:16:11", "text": "like, why? And they would say something"}, {"start": "02:16:09", "end": "02:16:14", "text": "exactly like"}, {"start": "02:16:11", "end": "02:16:17", "text": "because of its ability"}, {"start": "02:16:14", "end": "02:16:20", "text": "to alter human DNA."}, {"start": "02:16:17", "end": "02:16:22", "text": "And I would be like in a barber shop"}, {"start": "02:16:20", "end": "02:16:24", "text": "getting a haircut being like what?"}, {"start": "02:16:22", "end": "02:16:27", "text": ">> Um c can you say that one more time so I"}, {"start": "02:16:24", "end": "02:16:32", "text": "can verbatim understand that? Because of"}, {"start": "02:16:27", "end": "02:16:34", "text": "its ability to alter human DNA."}, {"start": "02:16:32", "end": "02:16:35", "text": ">> Kind of like an RNA thing."}, {"start": "02:16:34", "end": "02:16:38", "text": ">> I don't know, dude. I'm not a [ __ ]"}, {"start": "02:16:35", "end": "02:16:42", "text": "smart pants guy. not smart pants guy."}, {"start": "02:16:38", "end": "02:16:45", "text": "So, um, all that to say is that even"}, {"start": "02:16:42", "end": "02:16:48", "text": "within these circles of trust, there is"}, {"start": "02:16:45", "end": "02:16:50", "text": "this known thing that humans can't keep"}, {"start": "02:16:48", "end": "02:16:54", "text": "their [ __ ] mouths shut. And human"}, {"start": "02:16:50", "end": "02:16:57", "text": "beings are the greatest leak to security"}, {"start": "02:16:54", "end": "02:17:00", "text": "than any document, photo, image, video."}, {"start": "02:16:57", "end": "02:17:03", "text": "It's always human beings. And there"}, {"start": "02:17:00", "end": "02:17:05", "text": "there are consequences."}, {"start": "02:17:03", "end": "02:17:07", "text": "There are consequences to um speaking"}, {"start": "02:17:05", "end": "02:17:09", "text": "outside of school and sometimes they're"}, {"start": "02:17:07", "end": "02:17:10", "text": "covert, sometimes they're overt,"}, {"start": "02:17:09", "end": "02:17:12", "text": "sometimes they're inert or they appear"}, {"start": "02:17:10", "end": "02:17:15", "text": "to be, but there are consequences and"}, {"start": "02:17:12", "end": "02:17:19", "text": "sometimes the consequence is just the"}, {"start": "02:17:15", "end": "02:17:22", "text": "pain you feel that the crushing weight"}, {"start": "02:17:19", "end": "02:17:26", "text": "of what you know to be true and can't"}, {"start": "02:17:22", "end": "02:17:29", "text": "say is going to destroy and snap your"}, {"start": "02:17:26", "end": "02:17:32", "text": "legs and destroy your humanity. And I've"}, {"start": "02:17:29", "end": "02:17:34", "text": "seen that pain in people's eyes. And"}, {"start": "02:17:32", "end": "02:17:37", "text": "it's not a way to live, man. You cannot"}, {"start": "02:17:34", "end": "02:17:40", "text": "live. You're not free. You don't have"}, {"start": "02:17:37", "end": "02:17:41", "text": "freedom of thought. You don't have"}, {"start": "02:17:40", "end": "02:17:43", "text": "freedom of thought because you don't"}, {"start": "02:17:41", "end": "02:17:45", "text": "have freedom of of speech. Without"}, {"start": "02:17:43", "end": "02:17:46", "text": "freedom of speech, you can't have"}, {"start": "02:17:45", "end": "02:17:50", "text": "freedom of thought. And that's what's at"}, {"start": "02:17:46", "end": "02:17:52", "text": "stake with the UFO game."}, {"start": "02:17:50", "end": "02:17:53", "text": ">> All right, Jeremy. Thank you. We're"}, {"start": "02:17:52", "end": "02:17:54", "text": "going to answer some questions from the"}, {"start": "02:17:53", "end": "02:17:54", "text": "audience."}, {"start": "02:17:54", "end": "02:17:57", "text": ">> Easy question."}, {"start": "02:17:54", "end": "02:17:59", "text": ">> All right. This is uh it's part of the"}, {"start": "02:17:57", "end": "02:18:02", "text": "membership here. If you join and become"}, {"start": "02:17:59", "end": "02:18:06", "text": "a member, one of the many perks that you"}, {"start": "02:18:02", "end": "02:18:08", "text": "get is you're uh able to potentially"}, {"start": "02:18:06", "end": "02:18:09", "text": "have one of your questions answered by"}, {"start": "02:18:08", "end": "02:18:11", "text": "our guests, which we post in the"}, {"start": "02:18:09", "end": "02:18:14", "text": "Discord, and then you can go see that."}, {"start": "02:18:11", "end": "02:18:18", "text": "So, the first one here,"}, {"start": "02:18:14", "end": "02:18:19", "text": "um, yeah, I mean, I don't know how"}, {"start": "02:18:18", "end": "02:18:19", "text": "you're going to answer this one, but"}, {"start": "02:18:19", "end": "02:18:21", "text": "this is a"}, {"start": "02:18:19", "end": "02:18:21", "text": ">> Neither do I because I don't know the"}, {"start": "02:18:21", "end": "02:18:23", "text": "question."}, {"start": "02:18:21", "end": "02:18:27", "text": ">> It's a good question."}, {"start": "02:18:23", "end": "02:18:27", "text": ">> The [ __ ] Oh,"}, {"start": "02:18:27", "end": "02:18:31", "text": ">> by Slay says, \"What would be the most"}, {"start": "02:18:30", "end": "02:18:32", "text": "smoking gun evidence you would like to"}, {"start": "02:18:31", "end": "02:18:35", "text": "release but can't?\""}, {"start": "02:18:32", "end": "02:18:36", "text": ">> It's a great [ __ ] Did you time that"}, {"start": "02:18:35", "end": "02:18:37", "text": "question like Zar?"}, {"start": "02:18:36", "end": "02:18:38", "text": ">> I did."}, {"start": "02:18:37", "end": "02:18:38", "text": ">> Did you time that?"}, {"start": "02:18:38", "end": "02:18:40", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "02:18:38", "end": "02:18:42", "text": ">> Okay, then I finally get to do my joke"}, {"start": "02:18:40", "end": "02:18:44", "text": "on Chris Ramsay, which he'll only be the"}, {"start": "02:18:42", "end": "02:18:48", "text": "only one really that understands. All"}, {"start": "02:18:44", "end": "02:18:48", "text": "cards on the table, [ __ ]"}, {"start": "02:18:48", "end": "02:18:53", "text": "I'm gonna I'm gonna risk a Bob Lazar"}, {"start": "02:18:51", "end": "02:18:55", "text": "migraine by taking my glasses off. I"}, {"start": "02:18:53", "end": "02:18:59", "text": "just it's going to [ __ ] me, but the"}, {"start": "02:18:55", "end": "02:18:59", "text": "lights are bright in this skiff."}, {"start": "02:19:00", "end": "02:19:04", "text": "Okay, no armor. What would be the most"}, {"start": "02:19:02", "end": "02:19:08", "text": "smoking gun evidence you would like to"}, {"start": "02:19:04", "end": "02:19:13", "text": "release but can't? Um, that would be"}, {"start": "02:19:08", "end": "02:19:16", "text": "clear as day UAP filmed by satellite"}, {"start": "02:19:13", "end": "02:19:20", "text": "that were doing reconnaissance on"}, {"start": "02:19:16", "end": "02:19:23", "text": "adversarial and foreign nations assets."}, {"start": "02:19:20", "end": "02:19:25", "text": "And I don't I do not have that. In fact,"}, {"start": "02:19:23", "end": "02:19:29", "text": "I have nothing. And I've made sure of"}, {"start": "02:19:25", "end": "02:19:31", "text": "that. I have nothing. Nothing at home,"}, {"start": "02:19:29", "end": "02:19:35", "text": "nothing on my phone, nothing on my"}, {"start": "02:19:31", "end": "02:19:39", "text": "computers. I have nothing. However, I"}, {"start": "02:19:35", "end": "02:19:42", "text": "would love I would love that smoking gun"}, {"start": "02:19:39", "end": "02:19:46", "text": "evidence, which does exist. I have seen"}, {"start": "02:19:42", "end": "02:19:47", "text": "it. So have other people that you know."}, {"start": "02:19:46", "end": "02:19:49", "text": "And I'm not talking about one piece of"}, {"start": "02:19:47", "end": "02:19:52", "text": "footage. I'm talking about a lot of"}, {"start": "02:19:49", "end": "02:19:54", "text": "footage. But it is not mine to share."}, {"start": "02:19:52", "end": "02:19:56", "text": ">> What does it feature? Does it feature a"}, {"start": "02:19:54", "end": "02:19:57", "text": "disc, a tic tac, a tune?"}, {"start": "02:19:56", "end": "02:19:58", "text": ">> Talk about a lot of different footage."}, {"start": "02:19:57", "end": "02:20:00", "text": "Chris,"}, {"start": "02:19:58", "end": "02:20:02", "text": ">> tell me. I We're not I don't want to"}, {"start": "02:20:00", "end": "02:20:04", "text": "know about where it is. I don't want to"}, {"start": "02:20:02", "end": "02:20:07", "text": "know about any. I want to know what is"}, {"start": "02:20:04", "end": "02:20:08", "text": "on these videos. Is it a triangle?"}, {"start": "02:20:07", "end": "02:20:09", "text": ">> There are hundreds."}, {"start": "02:20:08", "end": "02:20:10", "text": ">> Tell me one."}, {"start": "02:20:09", "end": "02:20:12", "text": ">> Well, I just did."}, {"start": "02:20:10", "end": "02:20:14", "text": ">> You said hundreds. Give me one."}, {"start": "02:20:12", "end": "02:20:16", "text": ">> No, there I But I did before that. So, I"}, {"start": "02:20:14", "end": "02:20:19", "text": "told you satellite footage or maybe I'm"}, {"start": "02:20:16", "end": "02:20:22", "text": "going back in time of of of two discs"}, {"start": "02:20:19", "end": "02:20:24", "text": "going by an adversarial nation's ship."}, {"start": "02:20:22", "end": "02:20:25", "text": "Submarines are way more sensitive by the"}, {"start": "02:20:24", "end": "02:20:26", "text": "way position."}, {"start": "02:20:25", "end": "02:20:28", "text": ">> These are discs, silver discs."}, {"start": "02:20:26", "end": "02:20:28", "text": ">> They appear they appear to be lenticular"}, {"start": "02:20:28", "end": "02:20:29", "text": "in nature."}, {"start": "02:20:28", "end": "02:20:31", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "02:20:29", "end": "02:20:33", "text": ">> Not just orbs, not circular, but I mean,"}, {"start": "02:20:31", "end": "02:20:36", "text": "look, no one piece I learned this a long"}, {"start": "02:20:33", "end": "02:20:39", "text": "time ago. George Knap and I released"}, {"start": "02:20:36", "end": "02:20:41", "text": "absolute scientific evidence of"}, {"start": "02:20:39", "end": "02:20:43", "text": "instantaneous motion. It was the first"}, {"start": "02:20:41", "end": "02:20:44", "text": "time in your life and mine and the"}, {"start": "02:20:43", "end": "02:20:47", "text": "worlds that publicly there's a piece of"}, {"start": "02:20:44", "end": "02:20:50", "text": "footage that has precedent, has origin,"}, {"start": "02:20:47", "end": "02:20:53", "text": "it has uh pedigree, and it is military"}, {"start": "02:20:50", "end": "02:20:55", "text": "filmed, and it shows you instantaneous"}, {"start": "02:20:53", "end": "02:20:57", "text": "motion. Now, I could look, I could be"}, {"start": "02:20:55", "end": "02:20:58", "text": "wrong one day, and I'm trying I'm I'm"}, {"start": "02:20:57", "end": "02:21:01", "text": "asking the public to bullet test that"}, {"start": "02:20:58", "end": "02:21:04", "text": "theory because our own government"}, {"start": "02:21:01", "end": "02:21:06", "text": "believed that that is a display of"}, {"start": "02:21:04", "end": "02:21:08", "text": "instantaneous motion. That's the piece"}, {"start": "02:21:06", "end": "02:21:10", "text": "that definitely"}, {"start": "02:21:08", "end": "02:21:12", "text": "they, you know, whoever the controllers"}, {"start": "02:21:10", "end": "02:21:14", "text": "didn't want out. The others were like"}, {"start": "02:21:12", "end": "02:21:16", "text": "balloon tests. Here's this. Here's that."}, {"start": "02:21:14", "end": "02:21:18", "text": "Here's this. Here's that. That one is"}, {"start": "02:21:16", "end": "02:21:20", "text": "important. I think it will be seen that"}, {"start": "02:21:18", "end": "02:21:24", "text": "way in history. Or I'm wrong. And guess"}, {"start": "02:21:20", "end": "02:21:26", "text": "what? If I'm wrong, so was our entire"}, {"start": "02:21:24", "end": "02:21:30", "text": "intelligence community within the United"}, {"start": "02:21:26", "end": "02:21:32", "text": "States. And so I feel like I've put"}, {"start": "02:21:30", "end": "02:21:34", "text": "pretty good steps forward for people,"}, {"start": "02:21:32", "end": "02:21:37", "text": "man. you know, um, no one piece of"}, {"start": "02:21:34", "end": "02:21:39", "text": "footage has ever convinced me. It's the"}, {"start": "02:21:37", "end": "02:21:41", "text": "crushing weight of the accumulative"}, {"start": "02:21:39", "end": "02:21:42", "text": "footage, and I hope the public gets to"}, {"start": "02:21:41", "end": "02:21:44", "text": "see more and better."}, {"start": "02:21:42", "end": "02:21:48", "text": ">> I'm going to pin you down on this. Okay."}, {"start": "02:21:44", "end": "02:21:50", "text": ">> I want I want to know more about these"}, {"start": "02:21:48", "end": "02:21:52", "text": "uh this footage that you that you allude"}, {"start": "02:21:50", "end": "02:21:54", "text": "to. I've heard people like Lu Alazand"}, {"start": "02:21:52", "end": "02:21:56", "text": "talk about footage. I've heard people in"}, {"start": "02:21:54", "end": "02:21:59", "text": "Congress mention it recently that"}, {"start": "02:21:56", "end": "02:22:00", "text": "they've seen footage. What's on Give me"}, {"start": "02:21:59", "end": "02:22:03", "text": "five examples."}, {"start": "02:22:00", "end": "02:22:05", "text": ">> Well, I've given you 13. Well, I want I"}, {"start": "02:22:03", "end": "02:22:08", "text": "want like clear physically given the"}, {"start": "02:22:05", "end": "02:22:09", "text": "public with George Knap 13 assets that"}, {"start": "02:22:08", "end": "02:22:11", "text": "you were never supposed to see."}, {"start": "02:22:09", "end": "02:22:12", "text": ">> But you said clear as day. Those aren't"}, {"start": "02:22:11", "end": "02:22:14", "text": "clear as day."}, {"start": "02:22:12", "end": "02:22:17", "text": ">> Clear as day. Okay. So, let's split"}, {"start": "02:22:14", "end": "02:22:21", "text": "another hair. So, clear as day."}, {"start": "02:22:17", "end": "02:22:22", "text": ">> Clear as day to me is Independence Day."}, {"start": "02:22:21", "end": "02:22:23", "text": "Like coming out of the clouds. That's"}, {"start": "02:22:22", "end": "02:22:27", "text": "clear as day."}, {"start": "02:22:23", "end": "02:22:30", "text": ">> I'll promise you this. If I ever saw,"}, {"start": "02:22:27", "end": "02:22:33", "text": "obtained, and was able to release clear"}, {"start": "02:22:30", "end": "02:22:35", "text": "as day, Independence Day, hilarious um"}, {"start": "02:22:33", "end": "02:22:37", "text": "piece of footage."}, {"start": "02:22:35", "end": "02:22:38", "text": ">> And even if it's not clear as day, I"}, {"start": "02:22:37", "end": "02:22:39", "text": "would release it. George Nap would"}, {"start": "02:22:38", "end": "02:22:41", "text": "release it. We'd release it."}, {"start": "02:22:39", "end": "02:22:43", "text": ">> I know that, but I just want to know"}, {"start": "02:22:41", "end": "02:22:43", "text": "details like, okay, cuz like what have I"}, {"start": "02:22:43", "end": "02:22:46", "text": "seen?"}, {"start": "02:22:43", "end": "02:22:48", "text": ">> Because the I for me, it's more about"}, {"start": "02:22:46", "end": "02:22:50", "text": "like what the craft looks like because,"}, {"start": "02:22:48", "end": "02:22:51", "text": "you know, I get that there's sensitive"}, {"start": "02:22:50", "end": "02:22:53", "text": "areas and then you can't give that up."}, {"start": "02:22:51", "end": "02:22:56", "text": "Fine. I'm resigned to being very okay"}, {"start": "02:22:53", "end": "02:22:58", "text": "with, you know, not,"}, {"start": "02:22:56", "end": "02:23:01", "text": "you know, endangering people's lives by"}, {"start": "02:22:58", "end": "02:23:03", "text": "putting out information. Fine."}, {"start": "02:23:01", "end": "02:23:03", "text": "You said you've seen footage. That is"}, {"start": "02:23:03", "end": "02:23:04", "text": "very clear."}, {"start": "02:23:03", "end": "02:23:08", "text": ">> Fact."}, {"start": "02:23:04", "end": "02:23:09", "text": ">> I want to know, do you see markings on"}, {"start": "02:23:08", "end": "02:23:11", "text": "these craft? Is it that clear?"}, {"start": "02:23:09", "end": "02:23:14", "text": ">> No. No markings that I ever seen."}, {"start": "02:23:11", "end": "02:23:17", "text": ">> Okay. Are are you referring to craft"}, {"start": "02:23:14", "end": "02:23:18", "text": "that are of the triangular nature?"}, {"start": "02:23:17", "end": "02:23:20", "text": ">> Well, yeah, sure. There are there's"}, {"start": "02:23:18", "end": "02:23:21", "text": "triangles, there's tic tacs, there's"}, {"start": "02:23:20", "end": "02:23:22", "text": "ovals, there's spheres,"}, {"start": "02:23:21", "end": "02:23:23", "text": ">> and that you've seen."}, {"start": "02:23:22", "end": "02:23:24", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "02:23:23", "end": "02:23:26", "text": ">> You've seen clear"}, {"start": "02:23:24", "end": "02:23:28", "text": ">> 100%."}, {"start": "02:23:26", "end": "02:23:29", "text": ">> How clear are we talking? Are we are we"}, {"start": "02:23:28", "end": "02:23:31", "text": "talking?"}, {"start": "02:23:29", "end": "02:23:31", "text": ">> Are we talking iPhone footage?"}, {"start": "02:23:31", "end": "02:23:34", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "02:23:31", "end": "02:23:35", "text": ">> Are we like that clear? Or is it all IR"}, {"start": "02:23:34", "end": "02:23:37", "text": "stuff?"}, {"start": "02:23:35", "end": "02:23:39", "text": ">> Let's split another hair. Okay."}, {"start": "02:23:37", "end": "02:23:39", "text": ">> So, first of all, you keep saying craft."}, {"start": "02:23:39", "end": "02:23:41", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "02:23:39", "end": "02:23:41", "text": ">> I don't [ __ ] know that's true."}, {"start": "02:23:41", "end": "02:23:44", "text": ">> Sure. Fine. Fair."}, {"start": "02:23:41", "end": "02:23:50", "text": ">> No. No. very fair because um"}, {"start": "02:23:44", "end": "02:23:52", "text": ">> you will see um I hope you will see uh"}, {"start": "02:23:50", "end": "02:23:53", "text": "all five observables."}, {"start": "02:23:52", "end": "02:23:54", "text": ">> Okay,"}, {"start": "02:23:53", "end": "02:23:55", "text": ">> I showed you one. George and I've shown"}, {"start": "02:23:54", "end": "02:23:57", "text": "you one."}, {"start": "02:23:55", "end": "02:23:59", "text": ">> Clear as [ __ ] day. Let's let people"}, {"start": "02:23:57", "end": "02:24:02", "text": "dissect that first and make sure it is."}, {"start": "02:23:59", "end": "02:24:06", "text": ">> Okay. Um"}, {"start": "02:24:02", "end": "02:24:08", "text": "military footage is always going to be"}, {"start": "02:24:06", "end": "02:24:12", "text": "through military assets. Those assets"}, {"start": "02:24:08", "end": "02:24:15", "text": "are going to be at best full motion"}, {"start": "02:24:12", "end": "02:24:17", "text": "video. Full motion video is the overlay"}, {"start": "02:24:15", "end": "02:24:20", "text": "of a bunch of types of sensors where"}, {"start": "02:24:17", "end": "02:24:25", "text": "then it creates for you night or day"}, {"start": "02:24:20", "end": "02:24:29", "text": ">> a clear full highresolution"}, {"start": "02:24:25", "end": "02:24:31", "text": "image. Example, the Mosul orb."}, {"start": "02:24:29", "end": "02:24:31", "text": ">> Yes, that's a great high definition"}, {"start": "02:24:31", "end": "02:24:33", "text": "image,"}, {"start": "02:24:31", "end": "02:24:35", "text": ">> right? Well, okay. So, that's your"}, {"start": "02:24:33", "end": "02:24:35", "text": "barometer. So, now I'm understanding"}, {"start": "02:24:35", "end": "02:24:38", "text": "your phone."}, {"start": "02:24:35", "end": "02:24:39", "text": ">> It has color. It has texture. It has"}, {"start": "02:24:38", "end": "02:24:41", "text": "depth."}, {"start": "02:24:39", "end": "02:24:43", "text": ">> Yeah. So, you've got thermal, which is"}, {"start": "02:24:41", "end": "02:24:45", "text": "heat. It's sensing the heat. You have I"}, {"start": "02:24:43", "end": "02:24:47", "text": "Well, it's IR, but like you think of"}, {"start": "02:24:45", "end": "02:24:47", "text": "like green. So, you think about through"}, {"start": "02:24:47", "end": "02:24:49", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "02:24:47", "end": "02:24:50", "text": ">> So, that's like amplification of light,"}, {"start": "02:24:49", "end": "02:24:53", "text": "a little bit of heat."}, {"start": "02:24:50", "end": "02:24:55", "text": ">> And then you've got full motion video"}, {"start": "02:24:53", "end": "02:24:58", "text": ">> and then you have sometimes satellites"}, {"start": "02:24:55", "end": "02:25:00", "text": "which take something like full motion"}, {"start": "02:24:58", "end": "02:25:02", "text": "video. So, you would say that's clear as"}, {"start": "02:25:00", "end": "02:25:04", "text": "day because the capability satellite to"}, {"start": "02:25:02", "end": "02:25:06", "text": "come in and like read a Coke can they"}, {"start": "02:25:04", "end": "02:25:10", "text": "used to say in the '8s? Sure. Okay. So"}, {"start": "02:25:06", "end": "02:25:12", "text": "that exists and"}, {"start": "02:25:10", "end": "02:25:13", "text": "so what you're looking for is full"}, {"start": "02:25:12", "end": "02:25:14", "text": "motion video."}, {"start": "02:25:13", "end": "02:25:16", "text": ">> There's this there's this video. Sorry"}, {"start": "02:25:14", "end": "02:25:18", "text": "to interrupt you, but there's this video"}, {"start": "02:25:16", "end": "02:25:20", "text": "of and this gets brought up a lot in"}, {"start": "02:25:18", "end": "02:25:22", "text": "these discussions and these debates"}, {"start": "02:25:20", "end": "02:25:24", "text": ">> coming in from space."}, {"start": "02:25:22", "end": "02:25:26", "text": ">> No, there's this video of a jet sort of"}, {"start": "02:25:24", "end": "02:25:27", "text": "uh fending off a Russian attack or"}, {"start": "02:25:26", "end": "02:25:29", "text": "something, right? And it's like blasting"}, {"start": "02:25:27", "end": "02:25:32", "text": "something, but it's so clear. It's like"}, {"start": "02:25:29", "end": "02:25:34", "text": "the clearest 4K footage you can see. And"}, {"start": "02:25:32", "end": "02:25:38", "text": "we're seeing this from an airplane. Wow."}, {"start": "02:25:34", "end": "02:25:38", "text": "And yet the footage that we get is like"}, {"start": "02:25:38", "end": "02:25:39", "text": "uh"}, {"start": "02:25:38", "end": "02:25:41", "text": ">> why do why do you think that is? Can you"}, {"start": "02:25:39", "end": "02:25:42", "text": "say the words I immaculate constellation"}, {"start": "02:25:41", "end": "02:25:42", "text": "with me?"}, {"start": "02:25:42", "end": "02:25:44", "text": ">> Sure. Yeah."}, {"start": "02:25:42", "end": "02:25:47", "text": ">> Okay. So why do you think that is?"}, {"start": "02:25:44", "end": "02:25:47", "text": ">> Because of immaculate constellation."}, {"start": "02:25:47", "end": "02:25:48", "text": ">> I"}, {"start": "02:25:47", "end": "02:25:51", "text": ">> I'm [ __ ] with you right now."}, {"start": "02:25:48", "end": "02:25:52", "text": ">> I I don't know. I don't know why. And"}, {"start": "02:25:51", "end": "02:25:55", "text": "that's part of the question is like why"}, {"start": "02:25:52", "end": "02:26:00", "text": "are we getting this grainy infrared, you"}, {"start": "02:25:55", "end": "02:26:01", "text": "know, FMV when there exists footage like"}, {"start": "02:26:00", "end": "02:26:02", "text": "this? There should be."}, {"start": "02:26:01", "end": "02:26:05", "text": ">> Let me walk you through it. It's real"}, {"start": "02:26:02", "end": "02:26:08", "text": "[ __ ] simple. Okay. So"}, {"start": "02:26:05", "end": "02:26:09", "text": "once thing So I I get calls I I got a"}, {"start": "02:26:08", "end": "02:26:10", "text": "call for I need to walk you through it"}, {"start": "02:26:09", "end": "02:26:11", "text": "if you want to know the answer."}, {"start": "02:26:10", "end": "02:26:15", "text": ">> I absolutely do."}, {"start": "02:26:11", "end": "02:26:19", "text": ">> Here we go. Um so I get calls from kids"}, {"start": "02:26:15", "end": "02:26:22", "text": "and they're their one sole job is to"}, {"start": "02:26:19", "end": "02:26:24", "text": "look at live feeds of Reaper drones and"}, {"start": "02:26:22", "end": "02:26:25", "text": "they work at I don't know Wright"}, {"start": "02:26:24", "end": "02:26:28", "text": "Patterson let's say it's a good place"}, {"start": "02:26:25", "end": "02:26:31", "text": "generic. They do a lot of that there."}, {"start": "02:26:28", "end": "02:26:33", "text": "And these kids will say to me, \"Holy"}, {"start": "02:26:31", "end": "02:26:34", "text": "[ __ ] um, you're so reachable.\" And I'm"}, {"start": "02:26:33", "end": "02:26:36", "text": "like, \"Yeah, that's the point.\" And"}, {"start": "02:26:34", "end": "02:26:38", "text": "they're like, \"Well, check it out. Um,"}, {"start": "02:26:36", "end": "02:26:40", "text": "first time in my career, I know I'm"}, {"start": "02:26:38", "end": "02:26:42", "text": "young, but like, you know, for 10 years"}, {"start": "02:26:40", "end": "02:26:44", "text": "I've been, you know, had this job and"}, {"start": "02:26:42", "end": "02:26:48", "text": "this is the first time in 10 years when"}, {"start": "02:26:44", "end": "02:26:50", "text": "we saw clear as day"}, {"start": "02:26:48", "end": "02:26:52", "text": "discs, UFOs"}, {"start": "02:26:50", "end": "02:26:55", "text": "and they were doing this crazy [ __ ]"}, {"start": "02:26:52", "end": "02:26:57", "text": "[ __ ] and there was a whole bunch of them"}, {"start": "02:26:55", "end": "02:26:59", "text": "and we we don't know how to classify"}, {"start": "02:26:57", "end": "02:27:04", "text": "them. What do you write?"}, {"start": "02:26:59", "end": "02:27:07", "text": "So, we debated inside of this skiff for"}, {"start": "02:27:04", "end": "02:27:10", "text": "3 4 hours. We finally come up with the"}, {"start": "02:27:07", "end": "02:27:11", "text": "designation and we're writing it down"}, {"start": "02:27:10", "end": "02:27:15", "text": "and we just want to replay it one more"}, {"start": "02:27:11", "end": "02:27:18", "text": "time. And for the first time in 10"}, {"start": "02:27:15", "end": "02:27:20", "text": "years, you normally can go back in"}, {"start": "02:27:18", "end": "02:27:26", "text": "10-minute chunks. 10-minute chunks."}, {"start": "02:27:20", "end": "02:27:26", "text": "10-minute chunks. Poof. It's not there."}, {"start": "02:27:26", "end": "02:27:28", "text": "This is real call"}, {"start": "02:27:26", "end": "02:27:31", "text": ">> in real time."}, {"start": "02:27:28", "end": "02:27:33", "text": ">> Almost real time. I go back to thinking"}, {"start": "02:27:31", "end": "02:27:36", "text": "what Matthew Brown said. if he's telling"}, {"start": "02:27:33", "end": "02:27:37", "text": "us the way it is and if he's right which"}, {"start": "02:27:36", "end": "02:27:39", "text": "are two different things. The way it is"}, {"start": "02:27:37", "end": "02:27:42", "text": "is he understand if he's right and he"}, {"start": "02:27:39", "end": "02:27:46", "text": "said that we now have sophisticated ways"}, {"start": "02:27:42", "end": "02:27:48", "text": "this is the smallest thing he said to"}, {"start": "02:27:46", "end": "02:27:48", "text": "extract that data"}, {"start": "02:27:48", "end": "02:27:50", "text": ">> right"}, {"start": "02:27:48", "end": "02:27:51", "text": ">> so that it does right now I'm going to"}, {"start": "02:27:50", "end": "02:27:53", "text": "answer your question but go with me here"}, {"start": "02:27:51", "end": "02:28:00", "text": "I'm going to give you one more example"}, {"start": "02:27:53", "end": "02:28:02", "text": "real world so during the height of the"}, {"start": "02:28:00", "end": "02:28:05", "text": "um drone incursions on the east coast"}, {"start": "02:28:02", "end": "02:28:07", "text": "there is a sensitive"}, {"start": "02:28:05", "end": "02:28:11", "text": "critical infrastructure"}, {"start": "02:28:07", "end": "02:28:15", "text": "facility that has to do with energy."}, {"start": "02:28:11", "end": "02:28:18", "text": "And I got word that there was lifting"}, {"start": "02:28:15", "end": "02:28:20", "text": "out of the water in a bay with cameras"}, {"start": "02:28:18", "end": "02:28:22", "text": "near this facility that were so high"}, {"start": "02:28:20", "end": "02:28:24", "text": "definition that it's like perfect"}, {"start": "02:28:22", "end": "02:28:26", "text": "footage cuz you need security at this"}, {"start": "02:28:24", "end": "02:28:29", "text": "facility"}, {"start": "02:28:26", "end": "02:28:30", "text": "and a pyramid comes up pyramid by"}, {"start": "02:28:29", "end": "02:28:32", "text": "triangular by angle of observation."}, {"start": "02:28:30", "end": "02:28:35", "text": "Pyramid in shape."}, {"start": "02:28:32", "end": "02:28:36", "text": ">> Okay. like a like a tetrahedron."}, {"start": "02:28:35", "end": "02:28:37", "text": ">> It lifts"}, {"start": "02:28:36", "end": "02:28:39", "text": ">> three sided pyramid"}, {"start": "02:28:37", "end": "02:28:43", "text": ">> lifts up out of the water,"}, {"start": "02:28:39", "end": "02:28:47", "text": "rotates, I think that's 90°,"}, {"start": "02:28:43", "end": "02:28:48", "text": "goes over this base and hovers for maybe"}, {"start": "02:28:47", "end": "02:28:49", "text": "10 hours."}, {"start": "02:28:48", "end": "02:28:52", "text": ">> Whoa."}, {"start": "02:28:49", "end": "02:28:53", "text": ">> Goes back goes into the water and"}, {"start": "02:28:52", "end": "02:28:56", "text": "there's what's called the honey well"}, {"start": "02:28:53", "end": "02:28:58", "text": "system. Okay. at this that is used by"}, {"start": "02:28:56", "end": "02:28:59", "text": "department of energy and then the honey"}, {"start": "02:28:58", "end": "02:29:03", "text": "well system sits this file and it's like"}, {"start": "02:28:59", "end": "02:29:04", "text": "burning a hole in the brain of a num a"}, {"start": "02:29:03", "end": "02:29:07", "text": "number of people remember during the"}, {"start": "02:29:04", "end": "02:29:10", "text": "height of all this. So George and I we"}, {"start": "02:29:07", "end": "02:29:13", "text": "contact FBI because they we see in the"}, {"start": "02:29:10", "end": "02:29:17", "text": "papers they they're being stonewalled"}, {"start": "02:29:13", "end": "02:29:20", "text": "and we say look we have an individual"}, {"start": "02:29:17", "end": "02:29:23", "text": "who knows that you're being stonewalled"}, {"start": "02:29:20", "end": "02:29:24", "text": "and thinks you need something."}, {"start": "02:29:23", "end": "02:29:27", "text": "this person's in agreement that they"}, {"start": "02:29:24", "end": "02:29:29", "text": "trust me and George, so we better not"}, {"start": "02:29:27", "end": "02:29:31", "text": "[ __ ] this up. If there's no"}, {"start": "02:29:29", "end": "02:29:34", "text": "repercussions, he wants to do the right"}, {"start": "02:29:31", "end": "02:29:37", "text": "thing for America. Then you guys in the"}, {"start": "02:29:34", "end": "02:29:40", "text": "FBI, can we do this dance? And finally,"}, {"start": "02:29:37", "end": "02:29:41", "text": "it's like, yes, we can do this dance."}, {"start": "02:29:40", "end": "02:29:44", "text": "And the second that they said, yes, we"}, {"start": "02:29:41", "end": "02:29:47", "text": "can do this dance. And I go for this"}, {"start": "02:29:44", "end": "02:29:49", "text": "dance to be done. And this is like"}, {"start": "02:29:47", "end": "02:29:50", "text": ">> high high trust"}, {"start": "02:29:49", "end": "02:29:52", "text": ">> that I have."}, {"start": "02:29:50", "end": "02:29:53", "text": ">> Yeah. with somebody I I care about and"}, {"start": "02:29:52", "end": "02:29:54", "text": "love."}, {"start": "02:29:53", "end": "02:29:56", "text": ">> Understood."}, {"start": "02:29:54", "end": "02:30:00", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "02:29:56", "end": "02:30:00", "text": "When the agreement is made"}, {"start": "02:30:00", "end": "02:30:07", "text": "that footage is doesn't go missing. It's"}, {"start": "02:30:04", "end": "02:30:09", "text": "taken from that system"}, {"start": "02:30:07", "end": "02:30:12", "text": "and I just found out"}, {"start": "02:30:09", "end": "02:30:14", "text": "by the do."}, {"start": "02:30:12", "end": "02:30:16", "text": "So think about that. I'm setting you up"}, {"start": "02:30:14", "end": "02:30:17", "text": "for your answer now. Okay? Think about"}, {"start": "02:30:16", "end": "02:30:20", "text": "it."}, {"start": "02:30:17", "end": "02:30:21", "text": "So, where does all why are we not seeing"}, {"start": "02:30:20", "end": "02:30:23", "text": "the good footage is your basic question."}, {"start": "02:30:21", "end": "02:30:24", "text": "Everybody wants to know that. Why are we"}, {"start": "02:30:23", "end": "02:30:26", "text": "not seeing the full motion video?"}, {"start": "02:30:24", "end": "02:30:28", "text": "Satellite full motion. That's part of"}, {"start": "02:30:26", "end": "02:30:31", "text": "it. Full motion video. What you're"}, {"start": "02:30:28", "end": "02:30:34", "text": "looking for is FMV, full motion video"}, {"start": "02:30:31", "end": "02:30:35", "text": "from a satellite. Highfidelity you call"}, {"start": "02:30:34", "end": "02:30:37", "text": "it."}, {"start": "02:30:35", "end": "02:30:40", "text": "Color, day or night, doesn't matter."}, {"start": "02:30:37", "end": "02:30:44", "text": "Color clear."}, {"start": "02:30:40", "end": "02:30:47", "text": "A craft. Let's say a craft."}, {"start": "02:30:44", "end": "02:30:50", "text": "Why don't you see it? Well, George and I"}, {"start": "02:30:47", "end": "02:30:53", "text": "have given you 13 assets. What's"}, {"start": "02:30:50", "end": "02:30:57", "text": "different about those 13 assets?"}, {"start": "02:30:53", "end": "02:31:01", "text": "The number of people that have access to"}, {"start": "02:30:57", "end": "02:31:05", "text": "those 13 assets or whatever"}, {"start": "02:31:01", "end": "02:31:06", "text": "is very small for most of it, but it"}, {"start": "02:31:05", "end": "02:31:08", "text": "gets bigger and bigger"}, {"start": "02:31:06", "end": "02:31:11", "text": ">> when things get when products get"}, {"start": "02:31:08", "end": "02:31:12", "text": "delivered in search of answers outside"}, {"start": "02:31:11", "end": "02:31:15", "text": "of the intelligence community."}, {"start": "02:31:12", "end": "02:31:19", "text": ">> Sure. But that highfidelity [ __ ] how"}, {"start": "02:31:15", "end": "02:31:23", "text": "many people do you think not only a have"}, {"start": "02:31:19", "end": "02:31:27", "text": "visual access to it, B would ever break"}, {"start": "02:31:23", "end": "02:31:29", "text": "their oath about [ __ ] anything."}, {"start": "02:31:27", "end": "02:31:30", "text": "Now we're getting a small population."}, {"start": "02:31:29", "end": "02:31:35", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "02:31:30", "end": "02:31:40", "text": ">> C have cause to break it. Smaller."}, {"start": "02:31:35", "end": "02:31:43", "text": "D thinks about breaking it."}, {"start": "02:31:40", "end": "02:31:45", "text": "And finally, what comes after D?"}, {"start": "02:31:43", "end": "02:31:48", "text": "a [ __ ]"}, {"start": "02:31:45", "end": "02:31:48", "text": "e"}, {"start": "02:31:49", "end": "02:31:54", "text": "takes the risk"}, {"start": "02:31:51", "end": "02:31:56", "text": "personally"}, {"start": "02:31:54", "end": "02:32:00", "text": "to give that to a journalist who never"}, {"start": "02:31:56", "end": "02:32:01", "text": "[ __ ] asked for it. Now we're talking"}, {"start": "02:32:00", "end": "02:32:03", "text": "about"}, {"start": "02:32:01", "end": "02:32:04", "text": "almost nobody."}, {"start": "02:32:03", "end": "02:32:06", "text": ">> Yeah. One person."}, {"start": "02:32:04", "end": "02:32:11", "text": ">> So why aren't you seeing it, Chris?"}, {"start": "02:32:06", "end": "02:32:14", "text": ">> Because the pool is tiny. Unless there's"}, {"start": "02:32:11", "end": "02:32:15", "text": "some mandate to be honest. Now, why"}, {"start": "02:32:14", "end": "02:32:19", "text": "would there ever be a mandate to be"}, {"start": "02:32:15", "end": "02:32:21", "text": "honest about UFOs? Because after that,"}, {"start": "02:32:19", "end": "02:32:23", "text": ">> all we need is one, man. It feels like"}, {"start": "02:32:21", "end": "02:32:25", "text": ">> No, no, but you're wrong."}, {"start": "02:32:23", "end": "02:32:26", "text": ">> 5 hour video of a pyramid floating over"}, {"start": "02:32:25", "end": "02:32:27", "text": "the Department of Energy."}, {"start": "02:32:26", "end": "02:32:28", "text": ">> That's just ours."}, {"start": "02:32:27", "end": "02:32:30", "text": ">> I mean, that's ours."}, {"start": "02:32:28", "end": "02:32:33", "text": ">> No, that's what I'm like, dude. There"}, {"start": "02:32:30", "end": "02:32:33", "text": "are so many ways to puncture the truth."}, {"start": "02:32:33", "end": "02:32:35", "text": ">> Oh, I see it."}, {"start": "02:32:33", "end": "02:32:37", "text": ">> It doesn't matter what you do. I I'm"}, {"start": "02:32:35", "end": "02:32:40", "text": "saying to everybody I've never solicited"}, {"start": "02:32:37", "end": "02:32:41", "text": "in my life. I'm telling everybody, don't"}, {"start": "02:32:40", "end": "02:32:43", "text": "do it."}, {"start": "02:32:41", "end": "02:32:45", "text": ">> There's other ways the truth can come"}, {"start": "02:32:43", "end": "02:32:47", "text": "out. We don't need our government and"}, {"start": "02:32:45", "end": "02:32:48", "text": "our military to figure out the truth."}, {"start": "02:32:47", "end": "02:32:49", "text": "They don't [ __ ] know the truth."}, {"start": "02:32:48", "end": "02:32:50", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "02:32:49", "end": "02:32:53", "text": ">> And that's the that's the bottom line."}, {"start": "02:32:50", "end": "02:32:55", "text": "Bottom line is what do you tell people"}, {"start": "02:32:53", "end": "02:32:56", "text": "if you don't know? And what if"}, {"start": "02:32:55", "end": "02:32:58", "text": ">> That's true. Yeah."}, {"start": "02:32:56", "end": "02:32:59", "text": ">> What if you kick a sleeping dog? What"}, {"start": "02:32:58", "end": "02:33:00", "text": "happens then? What does the dog do to"}, {"start": "02:32:59", "end": "02:33:01", "text": "you?"}, {"start": "02:33:00", "end": "02:33:03", "text": ">> Yeah. Bites you."}, {"start": "02:33:01", "end": "02:33:03", "text": ">> Did that answer your question?"}, {"start": "02:33:03", "end": "02:33:04", "text": ">> Pretty much."}, {"start": "02:33:03", "end": "02:33:06", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "02:33:04", "end": "02:33:07", "text": ">> In a way. Not I'm not satisfied, but it"}, {"start": "02:33:06", "end": "02:33:08", "text": "answered my question. Well, you don't"}, {"start": "02:33:07", "end": "02:33:10", "text": "you don't Chris, you don't Okay, here we"}, {"start": "02:33:08", "end": "02:33:12", "text": "go. You don't see it because there's so"}, {"start": "02:33:10", "end": "02:33:13", "text": "many limited people that actually have"}, {"start": "02:33:12", "end": "02:33:14", "text": "access to that that have motivation."}, {"start": "02:33:13", "end": "02:33:16", "text": "Then will"}, {"start": "02:33:14", "end": "02:33:18", "text": ">> No, I know. And you would you eloquently"}, {"start": "02:33:16", "end": "02:33:19", "text": "answered that question. I find myself"}, {"start": "02:33:18", "end": "02:33:20", "text": "frustrated regardless of the answer."}, {"start": "02:33:19", "end": "02:33:23", "text": ">> Well, join the [ __ ] club."}, {"start": "02:33:20", "end": "02:33:25", "text": ">> I know. Um I'm not even that that"}, {"start": "02:33:23", "end": "02:33:27", "text": "frustrated. I'm vocalizing the"}, {"start": "02:33:25", "end": "02:33:30", "text": "frustration of people, you know, who"}, {"start": "02:33:27", "end": "02:33:32", "text": "have come before me. Um I'm actually I'm"}, {"start": "02:33:30", "end": "02:33:33", "text": "just happy to talk about it to be"}, {"start": "02:33:32", "end": "02:33:35", "text": "honest. Like a story like that,"}, {"start": "02:33:33", "end": "02:33:37", "text": "especially with a floating pyramid. I"}, {"start": "02:33:35", "end": "02:33:38", "text": "mean, sure, seeing the actual thing"}, {"start": "02:33:37", "end": "02:33:41", "text": "would like rock my world, but a story"}, {"start": "02:33:38", "end": "02:33:43", "text": "like that for me kind of has the same"}, {"start": "02:33:41", "end": "02:33:44", "text": "effect. I go, \"Oh my god.\" Like that is"}, {"start": "02:33:43", "end": "02:33:46", "text": ">> Chris, when people see UFOs for"}, {"start": "02:33:44", "end": "02:33:47", "text": "themselves, undeniably, does it rock"}, {"start": "02:33:46", "end": "02:33:49", "text": "their world?"}, {"start": "02:33:47", "end": "02:33:50", "text": ">> I would think so."}, {"start": "02:33:49", "end": "02:33:52", "text": ">> Sometimes it really doesn't, Chris."}, {"start": "02:33:50", "end": "02:33:55", "text": ">> Yeah. Well, sometimes it does."}, {"start": "02:33:52", "end": "02:33:56", "text": ">> Okay, fair enough. Touche, as they say"}, {"start": "02:33:55", "end": "02:33:58", "text": "in sword fighting."}, {"start": "02:33:56", "end": "02:34:01", "text": ">> Um,"}, {"start": "02:33:58", "end": "02:34:04", "text": "okay. Okay. Okay. Oh, this is a really"}, {"start": "02:34:01", "end": "02:34:06", "text": "good question by Kane. Kazane. Cool"}, {"start": "02:34:04", "end": "02:34:09", "text": "name, Kazane."}, {"start": "02:34:06", "end": "02:34:11", "text": ">> Thank your mama and papa."}, {"start": "02:34:09", "end": "02:34:14", "text": "God, man, you make me whenever I see"}, {"start": "02:34:11", "end": "02:34:14", "text": "[ __ ] you got, it makes me want one."}, {"start": "02:34:14", "end": "02:34:15", "text": ">> I'll give you the link."}, {"start": "02:34:14", "end": "02:34:18", "text": ">> What the heck?"}, {"start": "02:34:15", "end": "02:34:21", "text": ">> Do you feel there's any information that"}, {"start": "02:34:18", "end": "02:34:24", "text": "you or George have kept from each other?"}, {"start": "02:34:21", "end": "02:34:26", "text": "Or is it all full transparency?"}, {"start": "02:34:24", "end": "02:34:33", "text": ">> We keep stuff from each other to protect"}, {"start": "02:34:26", "end": "02:34:36", "text": "one another um seldomly but assuredly."}, {"start": "02:34:33", "end": "02:34:38", "text": "Cool. Interesting. I I would love to I"}, {"start": "02:34:36", "end": "02:34:40", "text": "would love to ask George that question"}, {"start": "02:34:38", "end": "02:34:43", "text": "one day, too. See if he has the same"}, {"start": "02:34:40", "end": "02:34:45", "text": "answer. He goes, \"No, of course not.\""}, {"start": "02:34:43", "end": "02:34:46", "text": "Because of an open book. No. No. I I I"}, {"start": "02:34:45", "end": "02:34:48", "text": "would assume he does, too."}, {"start": "02:34:46", "end": "02:34:51", "text": ">> You might say that."}, {"start": "02:34:48", "end": "02:34:53", "text": ">> Um, this is one we kind of answered"}, {"start": "02:34:51", "end": "02:34:55", "text": "during the podcast, but I thought it was"}, {"start": "02:34:53", "end": "02:34:58", "text": ">> with a kick with a quick sand for some"}, {"start": "02:34:55", "end": "02:35:00", "text": "someone once said to me."}, {"start": "02:34:58", "end": "02:35:02", "text": ">> This is by TH Perry."}, {"start": "02:35:00", "end": "02:35:04", "text": "They literally say to you sometimes like"}, {"start": "02:35:02", "end": "02:35:06", "text": "some of the intel guys when they're"}, {"start": "02:35:04", "end": "02:35:10", "text": "working against you. They warn you"}, {"start": "02:35:06", "end": "02:35:13", "text": "before and they say hollow mirrors man."}, {"start": "02:35:10", "end": "02:35:14", "text": "Nothing is as it appears."}, {"start": "02:35:13", "end": "02:35:16", "text": ">> How you doing?"}, {"start": "02:35:14", "end": "02:35:18", "text": ">> I mean I'm just like [ __ ]"}, {"start": "02:35:16", "end": "02:35:18", "text": ">> What do you do with that man? Okay go"}, {"start": "02:35:18", "end": "02:35:21", "text": "ahead."}, {"start": "02:35:18", "end": "02:35:24", "text": ">> Um what do you think really happened to"}, {"start": "02:35:21", "end": "02:35:26", "text": "General Mccasand th Perry? Okay, now"}, {"start": "02:35:24", "end": "02:35:26", "text": "we're getting into speculative territory"}, {"start": "02:35:26", "end": "02:35:28", "text": "because"}, {"start": "02:35:26", "end": "02:35:30", "text": ">> I I know that you can't answer that"}, {"start": "02:35:28", "end": "02:35:32", "text": "because you have no idea."}, {"start": "02:35:30", "end": "02:35:33", "text": ">> Um, but"}, {"start": "02:35:32", "end": "02:35:35", "text": ">> what's your gut say?"}, {"start": "02:35:33", "end": "02:35:35", "text": ">> Well, that he's missing."}, {"start": "02:35:35", "end": "02:35:37", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "02:35:35", "end": "02:35:38", "text": ">> Um,"}, {"start": "02:35:37", "end": "02:35:40", "text": "something bad happened to him."}, {"start": "02:35:38", "end": "02:35:44", "text": ">> Oh, yeah."}, {"start": "02:35:40", "end": "02:35:47", "text": ">> If you mean by being murdered bad? Yes."}, {"start": "02:35:44", "end": "02:35:49", "text": "I I believe he was murdered. I I do. Um,"}, {"start": "02:35:47", "end": "02:35:52", "text": "and I have cause to believe that."}, {"start": "02:35:49", "end": "02:35:52", "text": ">> What cause?"}, {"start": "02:35:55", "end": "02:36:04", "text": "people that know far more about it than"}, {"start": "02:35:58", "end": "02:36:06", "text": "I do who I trust and shouldn't have um"}, {"start": "02:36:04", "end": "02:36:08", "text": "mentioned [ __ ] to me."}, {"start": "02:36:06", "end": "02:36:08", "text": "That's all I got for you, man."}, {"start": "02:36:08", "end": "02:36:11", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "02:36:08", "end": "02:36:14", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. I'm So, let me back up."}, {"start": "02:36:11", "end": "02:36:15", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "02:36:14", "end": "02:36:18", "text": ">> man, that's a real human, man."}, {"start": "02:36:15", "end": "02:36:21", "text": ">> Yeah. with with real family and there's"}, {"start": "02:36:18", "end": "02:36:25", "text": "a pattern of people disappearing and"}, {"start": "02:36:21", "end": "02:36:29", "text": "their bodies being found later. Um"}, {"start": "02:36:25", "end": "02:36:33", "text": "because exposure often times masks"}, {"start": "02:36:29", "end": "02:36:35", "text": "causality of death. Um and it's [ __ ]"}, {"start": "02:36:33", "end": "02:36:39", "text": "up and there are cases the public"}, {"start": "02:36:35", "end": "02:36:41", "text": "doesn't know about and George and I are"}, {"start": "02:36:39", "end": "02:36:44", "text": "on a couple of them"}, {"start": "02:36:41", "end": "02:36:47", "text": "and some of them are older,"}, {"start": "02:36:44", "end": "02:36:51", "text": "right? But um it's a pattern and it's"}, {"start": "02:36:47", "end": "02:36:54", "text": "it's really gnarly. And I will say that"}, {"start": "02:36:51", "end": "02:36:58", "text": "um there are people who if they weren't"}, {"start": "02:36:54", "end": "02:37:02", "text": "dead were willing to testify"}, {"start": "02:36:58", "end": "02:37:04", "text": "um and they would have testified"}, {"start": "02:37:02", "end": "02:37:07", "text": "um"}, {"start": "02:37:04", "end": "02:37:08", "text": "and I don't know like you would probably"}, {"start": "02:37:07", "end": "02:37:09", "text": ">> Well, you mentioned that in the movie."}, {"start": "02:37:08", "end": "02:37:10", "text": ">> I did"}, {"start": "02:37:09", "end": "02:37:11", "text": ">> that someone"}, {"start": "02:37:10", "end": "02:37:13", "text": ">> I did. Yeah."}, {"start": "02:37:11", "end": "02:37:15", "text": ">> Yeah. There's a few people, but um a"}, {"start": "02:37:13", "end": "02:37:18", "text": "couple things burn in the back of my"}, {"start": "02:37:15", "end": "02:37:20", "text": "brain and I don't know if they're"}, {"start": "02:37:18", "end": "02:37:22", "text": "related, but it's horrible [ __ ]"}, {"start": "02:37:20", "end": "02:37:25", "text": "timing."}, {"start": "02:37:22", "end": "02:37:26", "text": ">> Do you feel a sense of like personal"}, {"start": "02:37:25", "end": "02:37:30", "text": "guilt for that?"}, {"start": "02:37:26", "end": "02:37:33", "text": ">> No. No, I'm not close to um those cases."}, {"start": "02:37:30", "end": "02:37:37", "text": "Okay. um personally and my wife told me"}, {"start": "02:37:33", "end": "02:37:40", "text": "um you make your own decisions and you"}, {"start": "02:37:37", "end": "02:37:42", "text": "have to um"}, {"start": "02:37:40", "end": "02:37:43", "text": "you have to contend with that. You have"}, {"start": "02:37:42", "end": "02:37:46", "text": "to wrestle with that, but other people"}, {"start": "02:37:43", "end": "02:37:49", "text": "make their own decisions"}, {"start": "02:37:46", "end": "02:37:50", "text": "and they're full on adults and they have"}, {"start": "02:37:49", "end": "02:37:51", "text": "to contend with that."}, {"start": "02:37:50", "end": "02:37:53", "text": ">> That's right."}, {"start": "02:37:51", "end": "02:37:55", "text": ">> So, I can't hold that and I'm not"}, {"start": "02:37:53", "end": "02:37:57", "text": "personally close to any of those cases."}, {"start": "02:37:55", "end": "02:38:00", "text": "I've been asked to be close to them and"}, {"start": "02:37:57", "end": "02:38:01", "text": "I I don't feel it's right for a number"}, {"start": "02:38:00", "end": "02:38:03", "text": "of reasons."}, {"start": "02:38:01", "end": "02:38:04", "text": ">> Sure. Well, that's good advice that your"}, {"start": "02:38:03", "end": "02:38:04", "text": "wife gave you."}, {"start": "02:38:04", "end": "02:38:05", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "02:38:04", "end": "02:38:09", "text": ">> Tell you that"}, {"start": "02:38:05", "end": "02:38:09", "text": ">> she's a mystic."}, {"start": "02:38:09", "end": "02:38:16", "text": ">> Um, this one I think is on everybody's"}, {"start": "02:38:13", "end": "02:38:19", "text": "mind. So, we'll go with this one here."}, {"start": "02:38:16", "end": "02:38:21", "text": "Everybody's butt mine or something."}, {"start": "02:38:19", "end": "02:38:24", "text": ">> Planet Earth, the greatest show in the"}, {"start": "02:38:21", "end": "02:38:24", "text": "solar system."}, {"start": "02:38:26", "end": "02:38:30", "text": "cause. Can you tell us more about the"}, {"start": "02:38:28", "end": "02:38:32", "text": "claim that the government will falsely"}, {"start": "02:38:30", "end": "02:38:32", "text": "say that a craft is slowly making its"}, {"start": "02:38:32", "end": "02:38:34", "text": "way to Earth?"}, {"start": "02:38:32", "end": "02:38:34", "text": ">> Oh [ __ ]"}, {"start": "02:38:34", "end": "02:38:37", "text": ">> This is"}, {"start": "02:38:34", "end": "02:38:38", "text": ">> Can I say more than I already said? Is"}, {"start": "02:38:37", "end": "02:38:40", "text": "that what you're asking?"}, {"start": "02:38:38", "end": "02:38:43", "text": "Yeah, you kind of said, you know, that"}, {"start": "02:38:40", "end": "02:38:47", "text": "you were told in some capacity that a"}, {"start": "02:38:43", "end": "02:38:52", "text": "craft would well that uh uh certain"}, {"start": "02:38:47", "end": "02:38:54", "text": "people would alarm us about some"}, {"start": "02:38:52", "end": "02:38:57", "text": "impending, you know,"}, {"start": "02:38:54", "end": "02:38:58", "text": ">> I sure did [ __ ] say that in January."}, {"start": "02:38:57", "end": "02:38:59", "text": "Yeah. Back"}, {"start": "02:38:58", "end": "02:39:01", "text": ">> right right before um"}, {"start": "02:38:59", "end": "02:39:03", "text": ">> six months before"}, {"start": "02:39:01", "end": "02:39:05", "text": ">> uh the uh ThreeI Atlas"}, {"start": "02:39:03", "end": "02:39:06", "text": ">> became popularly understood."}, {"start": "02:39:05", "end": "02:39:08", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "02:39:06", "end": "02:39:10", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "02:39:08", "end": "02:39:12", "text": "Can I say more? So, you know, it really"}, {"start": "02:39:10", "end": "02:39:14", "text": "bothers me. I I've I've said more and"}, {"start": "02:39:12", "end": "02:39:17", "text": "and I guess I haven't said it loud"}, {"start": "02:39:14", "end": "02:39:21", "text": "enough or clear enough. Um so, yeah,"}, {"start": "02:39:17", "end": "02:39:22", "text": "I'll say more again. Um"}, {"start": "02:39:21", "end": "02:39:25", "text": "you know,"}, {"start": "02:39:22", "end": "02:39:26", "text": "I've already said how I came to that"}, {"start": "02:39:25", "end": "02:39:28", "text": "conclusion. I've said it a billion"}, {"start": "02:39:26", "end": "02:39:29", "text": "times. I'm not hiding anything about how"}, {"start": "02:39:28", "end": "02:39:31", "text": "I came to the conclusion. I am not"}, {"start": "02:39:29", "end": "02:39:33", "text": "psychic. I I make the joke I don't know"}, {"start": "02:39:31", "end": "02:39:35", "text": "when my coffee pot's going to go off"}, {"start": "02:39:33", "end": "02:39:39", "text": "even when I set the time, you know,"}, {"start": "02:39:35", "end": "02:39:44", "text": "because I I'm I have no predictive"}, {"start": "02:39:39", "end": "02:39:46", "text": "ability. Um, the reason I said that is"}, {"start": "02:39:44", "end": "02:39:51", "text": "because I was pressured"}, {"start": "02:39:46", "end": "02:39:54", "text": "for a long time for my mouth to be used"}, {"start": "02:39:51", "end": "02:39:57", "text": "for what I considered a false narrative."}, {"start": "02:39:54", "end": "02:39:59", "text": "The false narrative being that there was"}, {"start": "02:39:57", "end": "02:40:01", "text": "a craft slowly coming making its way to"}, {"start": "02:39:59", "end": "02:40:03", "text": "Earth. I think they said like 2027 or"}, {"start": "02:40:01", "end": "02:40:05", "text": "2036, you know, leave a big window so"}, {"start": "02:40:03", "end": "02:40:06", "text": "everybody has to [ __ ] guess. And and"}, {"start": "02:40:05", "end": "02:40:09", "text": "if it doesn't happen in 2027, then you"}, {"start": "02:40:06", "end": "02:40:13", "text": "know, we have them until 2036. I think"}, {"start": "02:40:09", "end": "02:40:14", "text": "that is absolute [ __ ] And my cause"}, {"start": "02:40:13", "end": "02:40:19", "text": "to believe that is the way that I was"}, {"start": "02:40:14", "end": "02:40:21", "text": "pressured to be used as a megaphone for"}, {"start": "02:40:19", "end": "02:40:22", "text": "that idea by the intelligence community"}, {"start": "02:40:21", "end": "02:40:24", "text": "which I have mapped out everybody"}, {"start": "02:40:22", "end": "02:40:28", "text": "connected to that one specific lie to"}, {"start": "02:40:24", "end": "02:40:29", "text": "the American public and I just said it"}, {"start": "02:40:28", "end": "02:40:32", "text": "out loud when I was in front of [ __ ]"}, {"start": "02:40:29", "end": "02:40:35", "text": "cameras because I can't be you know"}, {"start": "02:40:32", "end": "02:40:37", "text": "what's the words you used um earlier um"}, {"start": "02:40:35", "end": "02:40:39", "text": "acting sincere. I'm just [ __ ] going"}, {"start": "02:40:37", "end": "02:40:40", "text": "to say it like but I said I told the guy"}, {"start": "02:40:39", "end": "02:40:43", "text": "I don't think you want it in this"}, {"start": "02:40:40", "end": "02:40:48", "text": "[ __ ] show of yours but yet he puts it"}, {"start": "02:40:43", "end": "02:40:50", "text": "in. Thank you Ryan. You know um so"}, {"start": "02:40:48", "end": "02:40:51", "text": ">> was the person who told this to you?"}, {"start": "02:40:50", "end": "02:40:52", "text": ">> There's not a person, brother."}, {"start": "02:40:51", "end": "02:40:54", "text": ">> There's multiple people."}, {"start": "02:40:52", "end": "02:40:55", "text": ">> Why do you think I would rely on my"}, {"start": "02:40:54", "end": "02:40:57", "text": "intuition?"}, {"start": "02:40:55", "end": "02:40:58", "text": ">> Were any of those people ever on this"}, {"start": "02:40:57", "end": "02:40:59", "text": "podcast?"}, {"start": "02:40:58", "end": "02:41:01", "text": ">> I have no idea who's on your podcast."}, {"start": "02:40:59", "end": "02:41:03", "text": "Bring out the book. I'd have to No. You"}, {"start": "02:41:01", "end": "02:41:05", "text": "know what? Let's not play that game"}, {"start": "02:41:03", "end": "02:41:09", "text": "because here's the deal. I already know"}, {"start": "02:41:05", "end": "02:41:11", "text": "your question and um not overtly no to"}, {"start": "02:41:09", "end": "02:41:13", "text": "answer your question. Um but I've heard"}, {"start": "02:41:11", "end": "02:41:14", "text": "from other people"}, {"start": "02:41:13", "end": "02:41:15", "text": ">> that that was said overtly."}, {"start": "02:41:14", "end": "02:41:16", "text": ">> Same information."}, {"start": "02:41:15", "end": "02:41:19", "text": ">> Same information. But you have to"}, {"start": "02:41:16", "end": "02:41:22", "text": "understand there's a there's a mosaic of"}, {"start": "02:41:19", "end": "02:41:24", "text": "people who tried to have influence over"}, {"start": "02:41:22", "end": "02:41:26", "text": "me to say that with"}, {"start": "02:41:24", "end": "02:41:28", "text": ">> the same message"}, {"start": "02:41:26", "end": "02:41:30", "text": ">> the ex bro down to the down to the point"}, {"start": "02:41:28", "end": "02:41:33", "text": "where I have a catalog of seven books"}, {"start": "02:41:30", "end": "02:41:36", "text": "that I will not read because I've mapped"}, {"start": "02:41:33", "end": "02:41:38", "text": "out the network of people who have who"}, {"start": "02:41:36", "end": "02:41:41", "text": "said it and it's almost as if I could go"}, {"start": "02:41:38", "end": "02:41:43", "text": "through my memory and type in a word."}, {"start": "02:41:41", "end": "02:41:45", "text": ">> Do you think a lobe was"}, {"start": "02:41:43", "end": "02:41:48", "text": ">> implicated in this as well? It's almost"}, {"start": "02:41:45", "end": "02:41:52", "text": "as if I could go into my memory and type"}, {"start": "02:41:48", "end": "02:41:54", "text": "in a word and cross reference 11 plus"}, {"start": "02:41:52", "end": "02:41:57", "text": "years of what's been said to me. So, I"}, {"start": "02:41:54", "end": "02:42:01", "text": "know exactly the mosaic of that"}, {"start": "02:41:57", "end": "02:42:03", "text": "information. I do not trust it"}, {"start": "02:42:01", "end": "02:42:05", "text": ">> to be actual and real. In fact, I know"}, {"start": "02:42:03", "end": "02:42:07", "text": "the origin of at least the mythology"}, {"start": "02:42:05", "end": "02:42:09", "text": "which comes from a 70s classified"}, {"start": "02:42:07", "end": "02:42:13", "text": "document. Now, let's back up for one"}, {"start": "02:42:09", "end": "02:42:15", "text": "second, which is this."}, {"start": "02:42:13", "end": "02:42:15", "text": "I could be [ __ ] wrong."}, {"start": "02:42:15", "end": "02:42:17", "text": ">> Right."}, {"start": "02:42:15", "end": "02:42:18", "text": ">> That's mine and George's joke. Like, you"}, {"start": "02:42:17", "end": "02:42:20", "text": "know, I am adamant."}, {"start": "02:42:18", "end": "02:42:21", "text": ">> You you you have a gut instinct"}, {"start": "02:42:20", "end": "02:42:24", "text": ">> beyond a gut."}, {"start": "02:42:21", "end": "02:42:25", "text": ">> Yeah. Well, a a journalistic um"}, {"start": "02:42:24", "end": "02:42:27", "text": ">> bang"}, {"start": "02:42:25", "end": "02:42:29", "text": ">> uh uh u not instinct, but I would say"}, {"start": "02:42:27", "end": "02:42:31", "text": "maybe uh"}, {"start": "02:42:29", "end": "02:42:32", "text": "intuition."}, {"start": "02:42:31", "end": "02:42:35", "text": ">> This ain't my first rodeo. And I've seen"}, {"start": "02:42:32", "end": "02:42:36", "text": "this movie before. Now, now hold on one"}, {"start": "02:42:35", "end": "02:42:38", "text": "second, which is that, you know, [ __ ]"}, {"start": "02:42:36", "end": "02:42:41", "text": "I'm really trying to tell people I don't"}, {"start": "02:42:38", "end": "02:42:43", "text": "have information that you don't have."}, {"start": "02:42:41", "end": "02:42:44", "text": "But yeah, I just um look, and again, if"}, {"start": "02:42:43", "end": "02:42:46", "text": "I'm wrong, who [ __ ] cares? It'd be"}, {"start": "02:42:44", "end": "02:42:48", "text": "the greatest day of my life. I would"}, {"start": "02:42:46", "end": "02:42:51", "text": "love to be wrong about that"}, {"start": "02:42:48", "end": "02:42:54", "text": ">> cuz it sounds a lot like what you know"}, {"start": "02:42:51", "end": "02:42:58", "text": "you you can't help but overlap"}, {"start": "02:42:54", "end": "02:43:01", "text": "the sort of blue beam"}, {"start": "02:42:58", "end": "02:43:03", "text": "you know narrative that that uh Steven"}, {"start": "02:43:01", "end": "02:43:06", "text": "Greer has been talking about as well"}, {"start": "02:43:03", "end": "02:43:09", "text": "where the government's going to you know"}, {"start": "02:43:06", "end": "02:43:11", "text": "fake an impending alien invasion in"}, {"start": "02:43:09", "end": "02:43:12", "text": "order to you know take away more rights"}, {"start": "02:43:11", "end": "02:43:13", "text": "for the American people"}, {"start": "02:43:12", "end": "02:43:16", "text": ">> do that"}, {"start": "02:43:13", "end": "02:43:18", "text": ">> um well I mean isn't at kind of what"}, {"start": "02:43:16", "end": "02:43:20", "text": "they're doing when when you have people"}, {"start": "02:43:18", "end": "02:43:21", "text": "from these agencies who are the"}, {"start": "02:43:20", "end": "02:43:23", "text": "government telling you that there's an"}, {"start": "02:43:21", "end": "02:43:25", "text": "invasion coming. Isn't that one step"}, {"start": "02:43:23", "end": "02:43:27", "text": "away from faking an alien invasion?"}, {"start": "02:43:25", "end": "02:43:30", "text": ">> Well, no, but that could also be"}, {"start": "02:43:27", "end": "02:43:33", "text": "personal belief based on personal"}, {"start": "02:43:30", "end": "02:43:35", "text": ">> Are you saying they believe it? I I I'm"}, {"start": "02:43:33", "end": "02:43:36", "text": "leaving open the possibility"}, {"start": "02:43:35", "end": "02:43:39", "text": ">> that the reason this messaging has"}, {"start": "02:43:36", "end": "02:43:41", "text": "percolated to yours and my ears and the"}, {"start": "02:43:39", "end": "02:43:44", "text": "public's is because that's a"}, {"start": "02:43:41", "end": "02:43:45", "text": "personalized assessment based on the"}, {"start": "02:43:44", "end": "02:43:48", "text": "information that they have."}, {"start": "02:43:45", "end": "02:43:50", "text": ">> Um it could be that, right? I don't know"}, {"start": "02:43:48", "end": "02:43:51", "text": "cuz no one would talk to me straight"}, {"start": "02:43:50", "end": "02:43:53", "text": "about it. You know, I have straight up"}, {"start": "02:43:51", "end": "02:43:55", "text": "asked people and it's all like that"}, {"start": "02:43:53", "end": "02:43:57", "text": "weird intelligent [ __ ] where they're not"}, {"start": "02:43:55", "end": "02:43:59", "text": "saying nothing and trying to say"}, {"start": "02:43:57", "end": "02:44:02", "text": "something but saying nothing"}, {"start": "02:43:59", "end": "02:44:04", "text": ">> and it feels like just passage material."}, {"start": "02:44:02", "end": "02:44:07", "text": ">> I don't know. But I would I would tell"}, {"start": "02:44:04", "end": "02:44:12", "text": "you this. You're never going to be told"}, {"start": "02:44:07", "end": "02:44:14", "text": "the truth straight by any government"}, {"start": "02:44:12", "end": "02:44:17", "text": "agency. And not just cuz they don't know"}, {"start": "02:44:14", "end": "02:44:20", "text": "it because their job is to shape the"}, {"start": "02:44:17", "end": "02:44:23", "text": "emerging UAP narrative to be able to"}, {"start": "02:44:20", "end": "02:44:25", "text": "utilize truth and untruth to their"}, {"start": "02:44:23", "end": "02:44:26", "text": "behest. That is the goal."}, {"start": "02:44:25", "end": "02:44:28", "text": ">> And what's your goal?"}, {"start": "02:44:26", "end": "02:44:30", "text": ">> My goal in what?"}, {"start": "02:44:28", "end": "02:44:34", "text": ">> When their goal is to shape the"}, {"start": "02:44:30", "end": "02:44:40", "text": "narrative, what's your goal? Oh, my goal"}, {"start": "02:44:34", "end": "02:44:43", "text": "is to try to dig as deep as I can and"}, {"start": "02:44:40", "end": "02:44:45", "text": "find out what the truth is. That's my"}, {"start": "02:44:43", "end": "02:44:50", "text": "goal."}, {"start": "02:44:45", "end": "02:44:52", "text": ">> Jeremy Corbel, thank you, brother,"}, {"start": "02:44:50", "end": "02:44:53", "text": ">> friend."}, {"start": "02:44:52", "end": "02:44:55", "text": ">> Thank you, friend. Yeah,"}, {"start": "02:44:53", "end": "02:44:57", "text": ">> appreciate you and I appreciate you"}, {"start": "02:44:55", "end": "02:44:59", "text": "coming here and opening up and and uh"}, {"start": "02:44:57", "end": "02:45:02", "text": "yeah, wishing you lots of luck and"}, {"start": "02:44:59", "end": "02:45:03", "text": "safety and health with uh the rest of"}, {"start": "02:45:02", "end": "02:45:07", "text": "your journey."}, {"start": "02:45:03", "end": "02:45:10", "text": ">> Hope. Okay. My hope is that this is the"}, {"start": "02:45:07", "end": "02:45:12", "text": "last time that I ever have to do an"}, {"start": "02:45:10", "end": "02:45:15", "text": "interview"}, {"start": "02:45:12", "end": "02:45:19", "text": "where"}, {"start": "02:45:15", "end": "02:45:19", "text": "I feel stress and pressure"}, {"start": "02:45:20", "end": "02:45:28", "text": "in trying to limit my words, man."}, {"start": "02:45:24", "end": "02:45:31", "text": "Because my goal is to um live a"}, {"start": "02:45:28", "end": "02:45:34", "text": "different life now. Um I don't want to"}, {"start": "02:45:31", "end": "02:45:34", "text": "play this game anymore."}, {"start": "02:45:34", "end": "02:45:35", "text": "Yeah,"}, {"start": "02:45:34", "end": "02:45:36", "text": ">> fair enough."}, {"start": "02:45:35", "end": "02:45:37", "text": ">> All right."}, {"start": "02:45:36", "end": "02:45:40", "text": ">> No, wishing you all the best."}, {"start": "02:45:37", "end": "02:45:40", "text": ">> Thanks, brother."}]

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This includes"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "cases like those of Lonnie Zamora in"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "Sakuro, New Mexico in 1964."}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "It also includes"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "cases like the Kenneth Arnold sightings"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "which were made famous because they"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "happened actually prior to Roswell in"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "1947. But among all those amazing uh"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "files which I have to sift through that"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "were released to us from the FBI and"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "different departments within uh"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "different agencies in the United States"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "government. The most interesting of"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "which currently that are bouncing around"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "the internet are the videos. We're going"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "to be looking at every single video in"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "this UFO release starting now. Like this"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "video, subscribe. Let's get into it. So,"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "here we are on the US Department of War"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "uh website. And as we scroll down, we'll"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "find ourselves the 17 pages. Now, look"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "at all of these links. These are all FBI"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "links. They are in ascending order. So,"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "they begin here uh the earliest of which"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "I think are around 19 in the 1940s and"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "then go all the way up to 2026. And"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "those are the videos that we'll be"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "looking at. I don't normally do these"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "type of videos. I don't normally chase"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "ambulances or cover news, but this is"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "pretty important here. These are all"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "files. I'm just going to go through them"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "one at a time. Now, I was looking"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "through them this morning, and I found"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "some really interesting"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "uh things. Nothing about Roswell,"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "nothing about the Aztec crash, and in"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "fact, there's a lot of missing time on"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "these files, but I do appreciate that"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "we're getting something here. PDF, PDF,"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "PDFs,"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "PDFs,"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "PDFs,"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "more PDFs. These are things that we'll"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "have to look for eventually. But here we"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "go. We start getting into the video"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "videos as of page nine. So the first one"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "we have here, this is the United States"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "Central Command submitted a report of an"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "unidentified anomalous phenomenon to the"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "all domain anomaly research office arrow"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "consisting of 10 seconds of video"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "footage from infrared sensor aboard US"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "military platform in 2022. Here it is."}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "So we have what seems to be this slow"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "moving object moving across frame. Now"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "that's it. Um, you know what is that?"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "Your guess is as good as mine. Could be"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "a balloon. Could be anything. Obviously,"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "I don't think that that one is going to"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "break the internet anytime soon,"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "especially because everything is"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "censored and it's only 10 seconds of"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "footage. So, we go to the next one. This"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "one here, this is at the 5-second mark."}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "The video depicts an object moving from"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "right to left across the top right"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "corner of the sensor field of view."}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "top right corner. We're looking over"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "here."}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "There we go. That was it."}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "It is very fast."}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "And because the camera is stationary,"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "we're not necessarily observing like"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "some parallax effect. Now, is this a"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "small object close to the lens appearing"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "to move fast or is this a large object"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "moving faster? your guess is as good as"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "mine. I would probably opt for the"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "former in this case. You know, usually"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "the mundane explanations are the correct"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "ones, but that was taken in Syria. So,"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "interesting. These war torn countries"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "specifically seem to attract some of"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "this, you know, uh"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "activity. Here we go. This one uh video"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "description. And the video depicts an"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "area of contrast moving from the bottom"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "left to the top right corner of the"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "sensor field of view. At approximately 6"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "seconds, the area of contrast leaves the"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "sensor field of view near the top right"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "corner of the frame. Okay,"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "there it is."}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "That is an interesting one because this"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "one does seem to"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "move a lot faster than you would expect"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "a balloon to move. It doesn't seem to"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "have any sort of fluttering wings like"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "we would see on a bird. Now, could that"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "just be a drone?"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "I would say my guess would be drone if"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "not a UAP,"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "which they probably assumed as well. And"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "that was in Iraq. Here we go to the"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "United Arab Emirates. And this one here"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "from 0 to 17 area of contrast remains"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "generally within the top left quarter of"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "display but the sensor pans from right"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "to left causing the area of contrast to"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "pass through the sensor. Okay. Sensor"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "pans from left to right. Okay. The"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "sensor stops tracking. Let's just watch"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "the video here. Oh, it seems like Can we"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "download it? Oh, you can't download it."}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "Okay."}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "It seems like some of these have been"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "pulled from the site already. Very, very"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "interesting."}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "Okay. So, that one's a no-go."}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "The UAE, nothing to see here. And this"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "one as well."}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "So, two videos in the UAE are completely"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "censored. Let's go on to the next one."}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "Okay. And yet another one"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "from Greece."}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "And yet another one from the Gulf of"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "Oman. Huh. Uh, folks, stay tuned to the"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "end of the video. These videos actually"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "end up coming back on the site. and we"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "look at them and uh I review those. So,"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "make sure to stick around till the end."}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "They are pretty interesting. And while I"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "have you here and we're looking at"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "things online, I would also encourage"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "you to go to this website, it's probably"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "nothing.com."}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "This is my live show. Spent lots of lots"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "of time putting this tour together"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "and making it everything that I could"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "possibly want in a live show. from the"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "set design that that took forever and"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "that cost a lot of money to build um to"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "the guests that'll be appearing. We have"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "some really really special guests"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "joining us for this tour. The co-hosts"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "as well that will be joining us are some"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "of the best people in this space,"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "recognizable faces, and the experience"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "itself of these live shows is unlike"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "anything"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "um I think you've ever gone to. It it's"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "it's just so special, especially when"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "people especially the people who watch"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "these videos, you can't talk to anybody"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "about this stuff. like very more and"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "more I think it's becoming a thing that"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "you can talk to people about but for the"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "most part this stuff is still kind of in"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "these niche pockets"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "uh except when you go to events like"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "this"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "there's such a special energy"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "and I call it collective effervescence"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "because that's kind of what it is it's"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "this excitement this energetic sort of"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "positive polarization of people"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "that come together over something"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "they're very passionate about and we"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "laugh harder, we cry harder, we have a"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "better time. It is such a fun and"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "memorable uh show. I I I really really"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "encourage you guys if you can if you can"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "afford the ticket or if you can afford,"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "you know, calling the babysitter and"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "renting a hotel room and all that stuff,"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "but make a night out of it. And if"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "you're coming alone, check out the"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "Discord. We got a channel for each one"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "of the shows, each one of the venues,"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "and people who are just going alone are"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "like, \"Hey, anybody else going?\" They're"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "doing meetups. It's a really cool"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "community. All right, I'm going to stop"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "talking and pushing my own live show,"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "but I think it's really relevant, but"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "it's also probably nothing. But here we"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "go. We're in Syria now. Uh, and here we"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "have an indistinctly shaped multicolored"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "area that moves from the right to the"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "left across the top edge of the sensor"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "display within the first few seconds of"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "the video. And this is from a full"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "motion video FMV camera aboard a US"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "military platform in 2024 described the"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "UAP consisting of a missshapen and"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "uneven ball of white light and reported"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "that the light/g glare halo effect"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "occurred at the top view of the FMV"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "feed. Let's have a look."}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "That's it. What is that?"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "Did you catch that?"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "I mean,"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "to me, that seems like almost"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "some type of lens flare."}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "It's moving erratically. I will agree."}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "Also, notice the uh"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "the dogs down here or the animals down"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "here. I don't know what to make of that,"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "honestly. Not that impressed by that one"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "either. Let's go to the next one. And"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "that one was in Syria. We have another"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "one from Syria also October in 2024. Is"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "this the same footage?"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "Whoa."}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "Now again, okay, let's read let's read"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "the description here again. The must the"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "misshapen and uneven ball of white"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "light. So this is the same type of"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "thing."}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "look at the top of the frame here."}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "That is very strange to look at. I will"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "agree."}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "Like a UFO sort of coming into"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "existence."}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "Don't know what to make of that. Can"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "that also be a lens flare?"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "Light does behave in mysterious ways,"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "folks."}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "All right, we're going to the third one"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "from this same time frame here."}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "What is this?"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "That's it. That's what we get. What is"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "that? Semi-transparent irregular shaped"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "orange areas overlay the background"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "imagery persisting for less than two"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "seconds. This That's it. Okay, hold on."}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "Full motion"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "misshaped and uneven ball of white"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "light. Okay, so this must be a different"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "So, what we're getting here, it seems to"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "be like three different vantage points"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "of the same anomalous activity."}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "Um, I don't know if that red means that"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "it is giving off a heat signature. I"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "don't know what that means. Why there is"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "red in the frame. I have no idea."}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "Doesn't seem to say here, but it does"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "say two semi-transparent"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "irregular-shaped orange areas overlay"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "the back imagery."}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "Okay,"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "I would call that anomalous"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "and unidentified. Uh here we go to"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "Greece 2023 and accompany mission report"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "making multiple. This one folks is"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "probably for me the most impressive of"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "all of the videos that were released"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "because"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "there is no observable parallax effect"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "where the background sort of moves"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "faster due to the camera zoom. Uh the"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "background seems at one point stationary"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "but this object traveling apparently at"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "around 80 miles an hour. Yeah. Yes. Oh"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "my god, this thing does right angle"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "turns at 80 mph. Now, I did some"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "research and for any conventional"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "aircraft to perform the same maneuver,"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "um not including a drone, but even a"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "drone, you know, wouldn't behave in this"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "way, I don't think. But, uh conventional"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "aircraft take about 20 to 30 seconds to"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "perform a right angle turn. So, here we"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "go. Check this out. Right in the first"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "few seconds,"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "right there on the bottom. And boom,"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "right angle turn, stops, comes back."}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "Now it looks like there's a bit of"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "movement happening, like the camera's"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "moving, but now the camera's stable. And"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "look at that. It just bounces back and"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "forth."}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "Now the camera's moving with it,"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "but it's still"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "I mean, this acceleration is crazy. Look"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "at that."}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "Back and forth it goes."}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "Seems like it's having a hard time"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "locking on the object as well."}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "This thing is just playfully"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "whizzing about."}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "I haven't got a lock on it, but it does"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "seem to be tracking it here as it moves."}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "Oh, and there's a lock happening."}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "Boom. They've locked in on the target."}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "Let's see what happens."}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "It seems to be behaving now. It's like,"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "oo, I got caught."}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "Time to just fly in a straight line like"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "a duck."}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "Incredibly interesting though."}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "Right,"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "we have some type of overlay effect"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "happening. I don't know if that's in"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "post or if that's the sensor itself"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "trying to"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "perhaps use a different"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "sensor or measuring device or just"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "increasing the contrast so that we can"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "see the object better as it gets further"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "away from the camera seemingly and then"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "we've lost it here. So, I don't know"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "whether that's because of the distance,"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "the focus, or did it go underwater?"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "I don't know. Do we find it again? I can"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "imagine the shock of the person"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "manning this drone or whatever it is."}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "Seeing those initial movements, it must"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "be very alarming. This to me stands out"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "as probably the most important of all"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "the videos. Let's go back to the"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "beginning here. I just want to see this"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "one more time. You see it come up in a"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "frame here. There it is. And then boom,"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "hits the 90 degree, comes back."}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "Notice the background now is slightly"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "moving,"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "but now we've stopped, right? And look"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "immediately does does these incredible"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "maneuvers. Like what is this?"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "Could this be a very highowered drone?"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "No way of knowing. I know that if you're"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "in the middle of the ocean, your drone"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "needs to be connected to something,"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "whoever's"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "controlling the drone and the bandwidth"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "or like the the ability to control the"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "drone there probably has probably has"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "some distance limitations and I don't"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "know that you know I don't know where"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "this is. It says Greece, but I you know"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "who knows where this is in a lake or in"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "an ocean. Um, very interesting to find"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "out, but regardless, probably u probably"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "the most important of all of them, I"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "think, so far. On to the next we go. So,"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "that one was in Greece."}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "This one also in Greece. Can we look at"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "the dates compared to the other one"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "here?"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "Um, incident date, no date given. Okay,"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "it's 2023."}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "All"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "right, let's just have a look at this"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "video here."}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "Okay,"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "seems to be moving in a straight line."}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "Whoa. What are those other ones? What's"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "going on here?"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "We're tracking the one thing, but what"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "about those other Oh, those those might"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "be boats. I thought we were looking at"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "the sky for a second. And it seems like"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "we're looking downwards. Let's look at"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "that again. So, where I thought we were"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "looking up, we're actually observing the"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "water here. So, those are probably these"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "are probably boats in the water. But"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "this one can't tell if it's flying under"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "the clouds or above."}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "Yeah, it does seem to be traveling"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "rather rapidly. You know, we have"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "we have comparison here. We have"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "perspective with the land now. And so"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "that thing does look like it's moving"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "quite rapidly. And coming from the water"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "again, can I just note"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "or those of you at home watching, just"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "take a note how many of these are"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "happening over bodies of water. Um"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "there's probably a substantial amount of"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "them. ever raising my conviction on the"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "4chan whistleblower and the underwater"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "deep sea mobile construction unit. This"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "one in the Middle East is what we're"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "given here. Oh wow."}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "This is this looks like an Epstein file."}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "so it looks like some type of oil rigger"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "in the middle of the ocean. Um we got a"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "flyby here happening."}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "Let's have a look."}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "Okay, there was something that entered"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "the frame. Let me just go back here."}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "Right there."}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "So, something enters the frame right"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "here."}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "And um"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "let's see if our camera operator picks"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "that up as he zooms in."}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "Now I think he's chasing the object."}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "Do we see it anywhere? There at the top"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "of the screen by the redacted stuff."}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "Okay. I don't know if this is the camera"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "moving or if it's the object moving."}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "That's what's really hard to tell about"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "these videos sometimes is that you can't"}, {"start": "00:18:55", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "really see. The camera seems to be"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "stopped, but again, really hard to tell."}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "The other video gave us a little bit"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "more. Oh,"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "okay."}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "If we could just see the ocean,"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "we would know if this object was moving"}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "erratically or"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "if that's just the camera operator"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "trying to like track the object,"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "if it's stationary or if it's moving in"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "a straight line. These are things that"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "would be really interesting to know."}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "And again, all of the telemetry data, as"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "you can see, is redacted. So, not giving"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "us much to go on in terms of distance,"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "in terms of speed."}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "Really hard to say what it is we are"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "looking at."}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:04", "text": "819."}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "That's why you can disregard."}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:12", "text": ">> Now, the shape of it is anomalous,"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "right? We're not seeing wings,"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "any protrusions."}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "Seems to be ovoid shaped, eggshaped"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "perhaps."}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "Okay, now we're seeing movement across"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "the screen. So, we are following. It"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "does seem like we're tracking this"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "object."}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:37", "text": "And then something got redacted there."}, {"start": "00:20:35", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "Not sure."}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "More and more of these black boxes just"}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "keep appearing."}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "And that's it. Okay. So, what I just"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:47", "text": "want to see what this says here. An area"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "of contrast. Okay. Hold on. area of"}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "contrast re-enters the sensor field of"}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:55", "text": "view. And when they say the area of"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "contrast, this this is the UAP, by the"}, {"start": "00:20:55", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "way. The area of contrast remains"}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:21:00", "text": "generally within the sensor field of"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:02", "text": "view. The sensor narrows its field of"}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "view to zoom in on the area of contrast."}, {"start": "00:21:02", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "The sensor further narrows its area in"}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "the field of view to zoom in on the"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "contrast. A blue reticle briefly appears"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:13", "text": "on screen, but does not acquire a lock"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:14", "text": "on the area of contrast. The sensor"}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "switches to a different modality and"}, {"start": "00:21:14", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "losses track of the area of contrast."}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "Okay. So, it doesn't say anything about"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "doing 90° turns or right angle turns or"}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:26", "text": "so it does perhaps, you know, maybe"}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "allude to the idea that it's just moving"}, {"start": "00:21:26", "end": "00:21:31", "text": "in a straight line. That was in the"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "Middle East. Here we go. Back in the"}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "Middle East once again. Seems to be a"}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "boat here. Let's uh let's have a look."}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:45", "text": "Pretty ominous these views, isn't it?"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:48", "text": "Like, how crazy."}, {"start": "00:21:45", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "Boom. Okay, that's it. That's all we"}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "get. Straight line once again. So, this"}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:57", "text": "doesn't"}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "check one of the observables here. It's"}, {"start": "00:21:57", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "just fast moving object."}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "Your guess is as good as mine. You know,"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "debunkers will say it's a duck. They"}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "might be right. I don't know. Very hard"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "to say based on that. Arabian Gulf is"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "next."}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:15", "text": "Sorry, that was the Arabian Gulf. My"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "bad. Another one from the Middle East"}, {"start": "00:22:15", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "here."}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "Oh yeah. Okay."}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:31", "text": "This one looks wild. This is the wildest"}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "looking one of the bunch."}, {"start": "00:22:31", "end": "00:22:37", "text": "It's this giant, you know, chandelier"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "star"}, {"start": "00:22:37", "end": "00:22:43", "text": "type object. Now, years ago, I believe"}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:45", "text": "two years ago, Jeremy Corbel had leaked"}, {"start": "00:22:43", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "a photo of this actually. So, to his"}, {"start": "00:22:45", "end": "00:22:50", "text": "credit, credit to Jeremy Corbel actually"}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:53", "text": "getting stuff that would have been"}, {"start": "00:22:50", "end": "00:22:55", "text": "declassified eventually. And so, you"}, {"start": "00:22:53", "end": "00:22:56", "text": "know, if you're ever questioning some of"}, {"start": "00:22:55", "end": "00:22:59", "text": "the releases he has, whether or not this"}, {"start": "00:22:56", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "is a UFO, I don't know. I can't say."}, {"start": "00:22:59", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "But, you know, his sources were"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "legitimate if he's coming out with that"}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:10", "text": "type of stuff. Now, there was a there"}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "was a leak, I think a 4chan leak"}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:13", "text": "right around the time of Immaculate"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:15", "text": "Constellation,"}, {"start": "00:23:13", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "which,"}, {"start": "00:23:15", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "you know, leaked photos of alleged UFOs"}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:23", "text": "that look like stars. I'll put them up"}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:25", "text": "right now. And, um, you know, I don't"}, {"start": "00:23:23", "end": "00:23:28", "text": "know."}, {"start": "00:23:25", "end": "00:23:29", "text": "I don't know if that's real or not, but"}, {"start": "00:23:28", "end": "00:23:31", "text": "that could be what we're looking at."}, {"start": "00:23:29", "end": "00:23:32", "text": "Now, the one thing I will say, and this"}, {"start": "00:23:31", "end": "00:23:36", "text": "was pointed out to me when I shared"}, {"start": "00:23:32", "end": "00:23:37", "text": "this, um, the one thing I will say is"}, {"start": "00:23:36", "end": "00:23:40", "text": "that first of all, there's a few"}, {"start": "00:23:37", "end": "00:23:42", "text": "observables here. One observable is"}, {"start": "00:23:40", "end": "00:23:48", "text": "there seems to be like a a plume of"}, {"start": "00:23:42", "end": "00:23:51", "text": "light. Um, and that plume"}, {"start": "00:23:48", "end": "00:23:55", "text": "is probably from a light source or a"}, {"start": "00:23:51", "end": "00:23:58", "text": "heat source is my guess. But then we see"}, {"start": "00:23:55", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "a trail. Now, a trail usually comes from"}, {"start": "00:23:58", "end": "00:24:02", "text": "either smoke or heat, that type of"}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:04", "text": "thing, which isn't readily associated"}, {"start": "00:24:02", "end": "00:24:06", "text": "with normal UFOs. Like, they don't"}, {"start": "00:24:04", "end": "00:24:08", "text": "really leave a heat trail. They're kind"}, {"start": "00:24:06", "end": "00:24:12", "text": "of just zip off, and that's what makes"}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:14", "text": "them anomalous. This one, however,"}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:17", "text": "I mean, it does at one point. So,"}, {"start": "00:24:14", "end": "00:24:19", "text": "although it is moving erratically,"}, {"start": "00:24:17", "end": "00:24:21", "text": "at one point there is something else"}, {"start": "00:24:19", "end": "00:24:25", "text": "that comes into frame here up here."}, {"start": "00:24:21", "end": "00:24:25", "text": "Notice in the top left,"}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:33", "text": "it seems like there might be some type"}, {"start": "00:24:30", "end": "00:24:36", "text": "of parachute"}, {"start": "00:24:33", "end": "00:24:38", "text": "right there. And it's kind of attached"}, {"start": "00:24:36", "end": "00:24:42", "text": "to it."}, {"start": "00:24:38", "end": "00:24:45", "text": "Like this might be one of those"}, {"start": "00:24:42", "end": "00:24:47", "text": "parachute vehicles"}, {"start": "00:24:45", "end": "00:24:50", "text": "uh that just lost control in the wind."}, {"start": "00:24:47", "end": "00:24:52", "text": "Maybe. I don't know."}, {"start": "00:24:50", "end": "00:24:55", "text": "It's an educated guess, but as you can"}, {"start": "00:24:52", "end": "00:24:57", "text": "see, the shape of that, I don't know if"}, {"start": "00:24:55", "end": "00:25:00", "text": "that's caused by a light reflection,"}, {"start": "00:24:57", "end": "00:25:02", "text": "which it might very well be, but it also"}, {"start": "00:25:00", "end": "00:25:07", "text": "kind of looks like the shape of a"}, {"start": "00:25:02", "end": "00:25:09", "text": "parachute, paraglider type of deal."}, {"start": "00:25:07", "end": "00:25:11", "text": "Um,"}, {"start": "00:25:09", "end": "00:25:13", "text": "I don't know what to make of this. As"}, {"start": "00:25:11", "end": "00:25:16", "text": "far as"}, {"start": "00:25:13", "end": "00:25:18", "text": "visually, it is the most stunning,"}, {"start": "00:25:16", "end": "00:25:21", "text": "but it also behaves the most"}, {"start": "00:25:18", "end": "00:25:24", "text": "prosaically, meaning"}, {"start": "00:25:21", "end": "00:25:27", "text": "it seems to have an explanation that"}, {"start": "00:25:24", "end": "00:25:31", "text": "isn't out of this world. Unfortunately,"}, {"start": "00:25:27", "end": "00:25:33", "text": "I I don't I don't this one at first when"}, {"start": "00:25:31", "end": "00:25:35", "text": "I saw it, I was like, \"Oh my god, what"}, {"start": "00:25:33", "end": "00:25:38", "text": "is this?\" And I'm sure many of you also"}, {"start": "00:25:35", "end": "00:25:41", "text": "have that gestalt, but looking into it a"}, {"start": "00:25:38", "end": "00:25:44", "text": "little deeper, you kind of get the sense"}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:46", "text": "that it might just be"}, {"start": "00:25:44", "end": "00:25:50", "text": "something with"}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:51", "text": "regular chemical propulsion."}, {"start": "00:25:50", "end": "00:25:53", "text": "What do you think? Let me know in the"}, {"start": "00:25:51", "end": "00:25:55", "text": "comments. All right, let's see what we"}, {"start": "00:25:53", "end": "00:25:59", "text": "got next. That was in the Middle East."}, {"start": "00:25:55", "end": "00:26:02", "text": "We're back in the Arabian Gulf here in"}, {"start": "00:25:59", "end": "00:26:02", "text": "2020."}, {"start": "00:26:03", "end": "00:26:07", "text": "Okay, let's have a look."}, {"start": "00:26:09", "end": "00:26:13", "text": "It's going to be a fast one. There it is"}, {"start": "00:26:11", "end": "00:26:15", "text": "on the bottom right. Hard to spot."}, {"start": "00:26:13", "end": "00:26:19", "text": "Bottom right."}, {"start": "00:26:15", "end": "00:26:19", "text": "Keep an eye out. Bottom right."}, {"start": "00:26:22", "end": "00:26:28", "text": "There it is. Okay."}, {"start": "00:26:25", "end": "00:26:29", "text": "Not particularly that impressive."}, {"start": "00:26:28", "end": "00:26:31", "text": "That could be a bird. That could be a"}, {"start": "00:26:29", "end": "00:26:33", "text": "bug. That could be a particle close to"}, {"start": "00:26:31", "end": "00:26:34", "text": "the lens. I don't know. Could be"}, {"start": "00:26:33", "end": "00:26:37", "text": "anything."}, {"start": "00:26:34", "end": "00:26:39", "text": "Nothing conclusive there. Thankful"}, {"start": "00:26:37", "end": "00:26:41", "text": "nonetheless that we're getting things."}, {"start": "00:26:39", "end": "00:26:43", "text": "Just not very impressed by them so far"}, {"start": "00:26:41", "end": "00:26:44", "text": "except that one that does the right"}, {"start": "00:26:43", "end": "00:26:46", "text": "angle stuff. All right, let's play this"}, {"start": "00:26:44", "end": "00:26:49", "text": "one here."}, {"start": "00:26:46", "end": "00:26:51", "text": "Another one from the Arabian Gulf here."}, {"start": "00:26:49", "end": "00:26:53", "text": "Now, I don't know if we're looking up or"}, {"start": "00:26:51", "end": "00:26:57", "text": "if we're looking down. Chances are we're"}, {"start": "00:26:53", "end": "00:26:57", "text": "looking down."}, {"start": "00:26:58", "end": "00:27:04", "text": "Okay, we got some text. Interesting."}, {"start": "00:27:00", "end": "00:27:04", "text": "Small thermal signature."}, {"start": "00:27:09", "end": "00:27:15", "text": "Unfortunately, hiding behind the"}, {"start": "00:27:10", "end": "00:27:15", "text": "redacted text."}, {"start": "00:27:15", "end": "00:27:21", "text": "Okay. Seems to be floating along rather"}, {"start": "00:27:18", "end": "00:27:25", "text": "slowly. And then, oh, there seems to be"}, {"start": "00:27:21", "end": "00:27:25", "text": "like some acceleration there."}, {"start": "00:27:26", "end": "00:27:33", "text": "And that's us moving, not it."}, {"start": "00:27:31", "end": "00:27:35", "text": "Important to note, every time the camera"}, {"start": "00:27:33", "end": "00:27:38", "text": "moves, it can feel like the object is"}, {"start": "00:27:35", "end": "00:27:40", "text": "moving in comparison. So, when the"}, {"start": "00:27:38", "end": "00:27:44", "text": "camera's stationary like it is now,"}, {"start": "00:27:40", "end": "00:27:48", "text": "seems like the clouds are moving."}, {"start": "00:27:44", "end": "00:27:48", "text": "Now, the camera's moving towards it."}, {"start": "00:27:51", "end": "00:27:55", "text": "Trying out different filters here."}, {"start": "00:27:53", "end": "00:27:57", "text": "Didn't seem to I don't know what to make"}, {"start": "00:27:55", "end": "00:28:00", "text": "of that. Let's see if there's anything"}, {"start": "00:27:57", "end": "00:28:02", "text": "we can glean from the"}, {"start": "00:28:00", "end": "00:28:04", "text": "written information."}, {"start": "00:28:02", "end": "00:28:07", "text": "Um,"}, {"start": "00:28:04", "end": "00:28:10", "text": "not really anything. Okay, another one"}, {"start": "00:28:07", "end": "00:28:12", "text": "from the Arabian Gulf here. Interesting"}, {"start": "00:28:10", "end": "00:28:14", "text": "to note as well that these were all"}, {"start": "00:28:12", "end": "00:28:16", "text": "handed to Arrow. So, these have all been"}, {"start": "00:28:14", "end": "00:28:18", "text": "looked at by Arrow. And let's have a"}, {"start": "00:28:16", "end": "00:28:21", "text": "look here. What are we looking at? Okay,"}, {"start": "00:28:18", "end": "00:28:24", "text": "we see some land maybe. Here we go. Now,"}, {"start": "00:28:21", "end": "00:28:26", "text": "there is some fluttering here. And I say"}, {"start": "00:28:24", "end": "00:28:28", "text": "that because"}, {"start": "00:28:26", "end": "00:28:30", "text": "sometimes that fluttering, especially"}, {"start": "00:28:28", "end": "00:28:33", "text": "with a night vision, if you're looking"}, {"start": "00:28:30", "end": "00:28:36", "text": "at infrared, I have a night vision scope"}, {"start": "00:28:33", "end": "00:28:40", "text": "to look at the stars. And when any type"}, {"start": "00:28:36", "end": "00:28:44", "text": "of mammal or bird, bat or what have you"}, {"start": "00:28:40", "end": "00:28:46", "text": "flies into frame, it flutters like this"}, {"start": "00:28:44", "end": "00:28:47", "text": "uh because of its wings and because of"}, {"start": "00:28:46", "end": "00:28:50", "text": "the light that it's giving off through"}, {"start": "00:28:47", "end": "00:28:51", "text": "the heat signature. I guess. Yeah. I"}, {"start": "00:28:50", "end": "00:28:54", "text": "don't know. I don't know what to make of"}, {"start": "00:28:51", "end": "00:28:57", "text": "this. Uh it's hard to tell how fast this"}, {"start": "00:28:54", "end": "00:28:58", "text": "object is moving. Obviously, parallax is"}, {"start": "00:28:57", "end": "00:29:00", "text": "a real thing. I know it's been brought"}, {"start": "00:28:58", "end": "00:29:02", "text": "up a lot to debunk a lot of these"}, {"start": "00:29:00", "end": "00:29:04", "text": "things, but parallax is an absolutely"}, {"start": "00:29:02", "end": "00:29:07", "text": "real thing. So, if you have a really"}, {"start": "00:29:04", "end": "00:29:09", "text": "long camera lens, which these drones"}, {"start": "00:29:07", "end": "00:29:12", "text": "obviously do, they're probably thousands"}, {"start": "00:29:09", "end": "00:29:14", "text": "of feet in the air and they're zooming"}, {"start": "00:29:12", "end": "00:29:16", "text": "in with like these incredibly long"}, {"start": "00:29:14", "end": "00:29:18", "text": "telescopic lenses, it will compress the"}, {"start": "00:29:16", "end": "00:29:20", "text": "background."}, {"start": "00:29:18", "end": "00:29:22", "text": "So, the the the tighter the zoom, the"}, {"start": "00:29:20", "end": "00:29:24", "text": "more compressed the background and then"}, {"start": "00:29:22", "end": "00:29:26", "text": "even moving slightly will give the"}, {"start": "00:29:24", "end": "00:29:29", "text": "impression of, you know, moving very"}, {"start": "00:29:26", "end": "00:29:31", "text": "fast. And so, that is a real thing. I"}, {"start": "00:29:29", "end": "00:29:33", "text": "wish we could just see"}, {"start": "00:29:31", "end": "00:29:36", "text": "if that was a saucer. Wouldn't that be"}, {"start": "00:29:33", "end": "00:29:40", "text": "cool if you just like"}, {"start": "00:29:36", "end": "00:29:43", "text": "had 4K image of a saucer? Not like we"}, {"start": "00:29:40", "end": "00:29:44", "text": "have all the tech in the world."}, {"start": "00:29:43", "end": "00:29:48", "text": "Somebody needs to strap an iPhone to"}, {"start": "00:29:44", "end": "00:29:50", "text": "these things. All right."}, {"start": "00:29:48", "end": "00:29:53", "text": "Okay. Here we have another one. Again, a"}, {"start": "00:29:50", "end": "00:29:55", "text": "very subtle"}, {"start": "00:29:53", "end": "00:29:57", "text": "object that moves"}, {"start": "00:29:55", "end": "00:30:00", "text": "at the bottom of the frame. It's so so"}, {"start": "00:29:57", "end": "00:30:02", "text": "quick. There it is."}, {"start": "00:30:00", "end": "00:30:04", "text": "Right here. The bottom middle of the"}, {"start": "00:30:02", "end": "00:30:07", "text": "frame. Boom."}, {"start": "00:30:04", "end": "00:30:07", "text": "Now,"}, {"start": "00:30:08", "end": "00:30:12", "text": "I would"}, {"start": "00:30:10", "end": "00:30:16", "text": "air on the side of caution with this one"}, {"start": "00:30:12", "end": "00:30:18", "text": "as well. The vehicle that is taking and"}, {"start": "00:30:16", "end": "00:30:22", "text": "capturing this footage is moving, you"}, {"start": "00:30:18", "end": "00:30:25", "text": "know, as we can see, towards the west,"}, {"start": "00:30:22", "end": "00:30:28", "text": "and it is moving in the opposite"}, {"start": "00:30:25", "end": "00:30:29", "text": "direction of the object. Now, what that"}, {"start": "00:30:28", "end": "00:30:32", "text": "usually means that that can be a"}, {"start": "00:30:29", "end": "00:30:35", "text": "stationary object that we're just flying"}, {"start": "00:30:32", "end": "00:30:40", "text": "over, say a balloon."}, {"start": "00:30:35", "end": "00:30:42", "text": "If uh the same happens when you see,"}, {"start": "00:30:40", "end": "00:30:44", "text": "you know, you see parachuters and one of"}, {"start": "00:30:42", "end": "00:30:45", "text": "them's filming the other and he opens a"}, {"start": "00:30:44", "end": "00:30:47", "text": "shoot and he looks like he goes up, he's"}, {"start": "00:30:45", "end": "00:30:49", "text": "not going up. It's just the other guy"}, {"start": "00:30:47", "end": "00:30:51", "text": "keeps going down and he's being, you"}, {"start": "00:30:49", "end": "00:30:53", "text": "know, obviously slowed down."}, {"start": "00:30:51", "end": "00:30:55", "text": "And it has that same type of effect here"}, {"start": "00:30:53", "end": "00:30:58", "text": "is that if that object is stationary,"}, {"start": "00:30:55", "end": "00:30:59", "text": "it's like if you see an airplane from an"}, {"start": "00:30:58", "end": "00:31:01", "text": "airplane"}, {"start": "00:30:59", "end": "00:31:03", "text": "and if it's going in the opposite"}, {"start": "00:31:01", "end": "00:31:05", "text": "direction, it looks like it's just going"}, {"start": "00:31:03", "end": "00:31:06", "text": "so fast."}, {"start": "00:31:05", "end": "00:31:08", "text": "Kind of what we're seeing there, I"}, {"start": "00:31:06", "end": "00:31:12", "text": "think."}, {"start": "00:31:08", "end": "00:31:15", "text": "And that one's in Djibouti."}, {"start": "00:31:12", "end": "00:31:15", "text": "Here we go."}, {"start": "00:31:16", "end": "00:31:22", "text": "Now we have one here. V the video"}, {"start": "00:31:19", "end": "00:31:23", "text": "features incidentally recorded audio"}, {"start": "00:31:22", "end": "00:31:26", "text": "which does not relate to the visual"}, {"start": "00:31:23", "end": "00:31:28", "text": "content. Okay."}, {"start": "00:31:26", "end": "00:31:30", "text": "And at around 31 seconds the sensor pans"}, {"start": "00:31:28", "end": "00:31:32", "text": "down to the right to focus out of an"}, {"start": "00:31:30", "end": "00:31:33", "text": "area of contrast. The sensor tracks the"}, {"start": "00:31:32", "end": "00:31:37", "text": "area of contrast against the background"}, {"start": "00:31:33", "end": "00:31:37", "text": "for approximately 3 minutes."}, {"start": "00:31:38", "end": "00:31:44", "text": "Okay."}, {"start": "00:31:40", "end": "00:31:46", "text": "And then it cycles through various"}, {"start": "00:31:44", "end": "00:31:49", "text": "reticles"}, {"start": "00:31:46", "end": "00:31:52", "text": "to try and I guess gauge some of the"}, {"start": "00:31:49", "end": "00:31:54", "text": "telemetry or information. So let's have"}, {"start": "00:31:52", "end": "00:31:57", "text": "a look. So up to 30 seconds nothing"}, {"start": "00:31:54", "end": "00:32:00", "text": "happens but then at 30"}, {"start": "00:31:57", "end": "00:32:02", "text": "that is crazy that we can just see"}, {"start": "00:32:00", "end": "00:32:06", "text": "things like that from"}, {"start": "00:32:02", "end": "00:32:06", "text": "Okay, so there it is."}, {"start": "00:32:09", "end": "00:32:16", "text": "I wonder what the operator was doing"}, {"start": "00:32:12", "end": "00:32:18", "text": "initially. Were they observing the boat"}, {"start": "00:32:16", "end": "00:32:21", "text": "or were they tracking this object"}, {"start": "00:32:18", "end": "00:32:22", "text": "previously? You know, it's a interesting"}, {"start": "00:32:21", "end": "00:32:24", "text": "question."}, {"start": "00:32:22", "end": "00:32:27", "text": "Like what were you doing there? Is that"}, {"start": "00:32:24", "end": "00:32:30", "text": "your job every day is just to look at"}, {"start": "00:32:27", "end": "00:32:32", "text": "boats for hours?"}, {"start": "00:32:30", "end": "00:32:37", "text": "I mean, again,"}, {"start": "00:32:32", "end": "00:32:40", "text": "we've got this luminous orb traveling"}, {"start": "00:32:37", "end": "00:32:42", "text": "in a singular direction."}, {"start": "00:32:40", "end": "00:32:44", "text": "It's really hard to say if it is a"}, {"start": "00:32:42", "end": "00:32:46", "text": "singular direction. I would love to have"}, {"start": "00:32:44", "end": "00:32:49", "text": "some reference here that shows me the"}, {"start": "00:32:46", "end": "00:32:52", "text": "object bouncing back and forth"}, {"start": "00:32:49", "end": "00:32:54", "text": "or or just even zigzagging or moving"}, {"start": "00:32:52", "end": "00:32:58", "text": "erratically, but we're not seeing any of"}, {"start": "00:32:54", "end": "00:33:03", "text": "the observables. So far, we've only seen"}, {"start": "00:32:58", "end": "00:33:05", "text": "the one of the five observables on that"}, {"start": "00:33:03", "end": "00:33:08", "text": "one video in Greece of it moving at, you"}, {"start": "00:33:05", "end": "00:33:10", "text": "know, 80 mph and doing right angle"}, {"start": "00:33:08", "end": "00:33:15", "text": "turns."}, {"start": "00:33:10", "end": "00:33:18", "text": "As far for the rest, I mean, this is all"}, {"start": "00:33:15", "end": "00:33:20", "text": "again, I don't know. Is that moving with"}, {"start": "00:33:18", "end": "00:33:23", "text": "the camera? Are we tracking it? Is it?"}, {"start": "00:33:20", "end": "00:33:27", "text": "It seems to be going up and down, but I"}, {"start": "00:33:23", "end": "00:33:27", "text": "don't know if that's"}, {"start": "00:33:28", "end": "00:33:32", "text": "I don't know what that is."}, {"start": "00:33:30", "end": "00:33:36", "text": "And then it tracks this thing. Here we"}, {"start": "00:33:32", "end": "00:33:36", "text": "go. We're in a little bit closer."}, {"start": "00:33:41", "end": "00:33:44", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:33:45", "end": "00:33:50", "text": "Just a lot of the same really."}, {"start": "00:33:48", "end": "00:33:52", "text": "They all kind of looked like that"}, {"start": "00:33:50", "end": "00:33:54", "text": "initial go fast video. Here we go. The"}, {"start": "00:33:52", "end": "00:33:57", "text": "camera stopped"}, {"start": "00:33:54", "end": "00:34:00", "text": "and still just straight line. Okay,"}, {"start": "00:33:57", "end": "00:34:01", "text": "this one in the southern United States."}, {"start": "00:34:00", "end": "00:34:04", "text": "That's interesting. Let's have a look"}, {"start": "00:34:01", "end": "00:34:04", "text": "here."}, {"start": "00:34:05", "end": "00:34:09", "text": "All right, we've locked onto the object."}, {"start": "00:34:18", "end": "00:34:24", "text": "Is that Does that look like a triangle"}, {"start": "00:34:21", "end": "00:34:26", "text": "to you"}, {"start": "00:34:24", "end": "00:34:28", "text": "or is that still just like a singular"}, {"start": "00:34:26", "end": "00:34:31", "text": "object? It looks like multiple objects"}, {"start": "00:34:28", "end": "00:34:34", "text": "or like a the object does seem to have"}, {"start": "00:34:31", "end": "00:34:36", "text": "three points to it. Do you guys see"}, {"start": "00:34:34", "end": "00:34:36", "text": "that?"}, {"start": "00:34:39", "end": "00:34:44", "text": "Okay. And it does appear to be moving"}, {"start": "00:34:42", "end": "00:34:47", "text": "rapidly"}, {"start": "00:34:44", "end": "00:34:49", "text": "now."}, {"start": "00:34:47", "end": "00:34:53", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:34:49", "end": "00:34:53", "text": "Starting to look like a spaceship."}, {"start": "00:34:53", "end": "00:34:58", "text": "This one's got"}, {"start": "00:34:55", "end": "00:35:02", "text": "more of an interesting"}, {"start": "00:34:58", "end": "00:35:04", "text": "shape to it. Oh, wow. Hold on."}, {"start": "00:35:02", "end": "00:35:06", "text": "I wish those redacted things weren't"}, {"start": "00:35:04", "end": "00:35:08", "text": "there."}, {"start": "00:35:06", "end": "00:35:11", "text": "Let's have a look as it goes closer to"}, {"start": "00:35:08", "end": "00:35:12", "text": "the camera. See if we can stop it at one"}, {"start": "00:35:11", "end": "00:35:15", "text": "point and get a good glimpse at it"}, {"start": "00:35:12", "end": "00:35:19", "text": "because it seems to be moving past"}, {"start": "00:35:15", "end": "00:35:21", "text": "right there. Huh."}, {"start": "00:35:19", "end": "00:35:24", "text": "What is that we're looking at, do you"}, {"start": "00:35:21", "end": "00:35:24", "text": "think?"}, {"start": "00:35:30", "end": "00:35:39", "text": "Really hard to tell what that is."}, {"start": "00:35:35", "end": "00:35:40", "text": "Let's see if it gives us any other"}, {"start": "00:35:39", "end": "00:35:42", "text": "information here. The area of contrast"}, {"start": "00:35:40", "end": "00:35:44", "text": "leaves the center of the frame and"}, {"start": "00:35:42", "end": "00:35:46", "text": "passes in front of the field of view."}, {"start": "00:35:44", "end": "00:35:47", "text": "Doesn't really go into describing it at"}, {"start": "00:35:46", "end": "00:35:49", "text": "all."}, {"start": "00:35:47", "end": "00:35:51", "text": "And the reporter did not provide any"}, {"start": "00:35:49", "end": "00:35:53", "text": "oral or written description of"}, {"start": "00:35:51", "end": "00:35:57", "text": "observation. Okay, so it's just another"}, {"start": "00:35:53", "end": "00:35:58", "text": "anomalous video. East China Sea. Wow,"}, {"start": "00:35:57", "end": "00:36:01", "text": "this is interesting that we would"}, {"start": "00:35:58", "end": "00:36:04", "text": "release this"}, {"start": "00:36:01", "end": "00:36:07", "text": "drone footage of East China Sea. This"}, {"start": "00:36:04", "end": "00:36:10", "text": "one looks interesting. 9 seconds here."}, {"start": "00:36:07", "end": "00:36:10", "text": "Ooh,"}, {"start": "00:36:11", "end": "00:36:14", "text": "what the hell?"}, {"start": "00:36:15", "end": "00:36:22", "text": "That looks organic. Unless it's Look at"}, {"start": "00:36:18", "end": "00:36:24", "text": "it. There's like a clear wave."}, {"start": "00:36:22", "end": "00:36:26", "text": "Whoa."}, {"start": "00:36:24", "end": "00:36:29", "text": "I don't know if that thing's on fire or"}, {"start": "00:36:26", "end": "00:36:32", "text": "if that is some type of refraction due"}, {"start": "00:36:29", "end": "00:36:34", "text": "to the"}, {"start": "00:36:32", "end": "00:36:36", "text": "I don't know due to the the gravity"}, {"start": "00:36:34", "end": "00:36:39", "text": "being distorted. You know, you hear"}, {"start": "00:36:36", "end": "00:36:41", "text": "about things like that as well, but hard"}, {"start": "00:36:39", "end": "00:36:43", "text": "to say. I don't know if we're looking"}, {"start": "00:36:41", "end": "00:36:46", "text": "down at this thing or if we're looking"}, {"start": "00:36:43", "end": "00:36:48", "text": "up at this thing."}, {"start": "00:36:46", "end": "00:36:49", "text": "Uh the sensor focused on area of"}, {"start": "00:36:48", "end": "00:36:53", "text": "contrast that resembles a"}, {"start": "00:36:49", "end": "00:36:55", "text": "football-shaped body with three radial"}, {"start": "00:36:53", "end": "00:36:57", "text": "projections."}, {"start": "00:36:55", "end": "00:37:00", "text": "One oriented vertically and two oriented"}, {"start": "00:36:57", "end": "00:37:04", "text": "downward at a 45 angle relative to the"}, {"start": "00:37:00", "end": "00:37:06", "text": "major axis of the main mass."}, {"start": "00:37:04", "end": "00:37:11", "text": "Okay. Do we see that?"}, {"start": "00:37:06", "end": "00:37:11", "text": "A footballshaped object."}, {"start": "00:37:14", "end": "00:37:19", "text": "I don't know if you're playing the same"}, {"start": "00:37:16", "end": "00:37:22", "text": "football I am, but I don't see what"}, {"start": "00:37:19", "end": "00:37:22", "text": "you're seeing."}, {"start": "00:37:23", "end": "00:37:29", "text": "Very strange though. That one does look"}, {"start": "00:37:27", "end": "00:37:32", "text": "That one is very strange. All right, we"}, {"start": "00:37:29", "end": "00:37:34", "text": "have one here from Japan and this one"}, {"start": "00:37:32", "end": "00:37:36", "text": "was taken in 2023."}, {"start": "00:37:34", "end": "00:37:39", "text": "Video description. The sensor tracks"}, {"start": "00:37:36", "end": "00:37:40", "text": "three distinct areas of contrast"}, {"start": "00:37:39", "end": "00:37:42", "text": "maintaining their positions generally"}, {"start": "00:37:40", "end": "00:37:44", "text": "within the center of the frame. The"}, {"start": "00:37:42", "end": "00:37:47", "text": "areas of contrast appear to maintain a"}, {"start": "00:37:44", "end": "00:37:50", "text": "fixed position and orientation relative"}, {"start": "00:37:47", "end": "00:37:54", "text": "to one another. Okay, that's"}, {"start": "00:37:50", "end": "00:37:54", "text": "interesting. Let's go."}, {"start": "00:37:54", "end": "00:37:59", "text": "Oh, they're quite far apart."}, {"start": "00:38:00", "end": "00:38:06", "text": "Oh, no. Okay, I see what they're saying."}, {"start": "00:38:04", "end": "00:38:08", "text": "Is that three objects or is that one"}, {"start": "00:38:06", "end": "00:38:11", "text": "object?"}, {"start": "00:38:08", "end": "00:38:11", "text": "They're saying it's three."}, {"start": "00:38:12", "end": "00:38:15", "text": "Okay."}, {"start": "00:38:20", "end": "00:38:27", "text": "I mean, again, this looks anomalous to"}, {"start": "00:38:23", "end": "00:38:31", "text": "me. Yep. Unidentified. Confirmed. For"}, {"start": "00:38:27", "end": "00:38:35", "text": "anybody saying there are no UFOs,"}, {"start": "00:38:31", "end": "00:38:37", "text": "you're stupid. I'm sorry. Cuz if you"}, {"start": "00:38:35", "end": "00:38:41", "text": "look at the literal sense of the word,"}, {"start": "00:38:37", "end": "00:38:43", "text": "that's all we've been looking at is by a"}, {"start": "00:38:41", "end": "00:38:46", "text": "military definition, by the same"}, {"start": "00:38:43", "end": "00:38:48", "text": "government who most people, you know,"}, {"start": "00:38:46", "end": "00:38:51", "text": "abide by and trust."}, {"start": "00:38:48", "end": "00:38:54", "text": "This is by their definition"}, {"start": "00:38:51", "end": "00:38:56", "text": "unidentified. And so, yes, they do"}, {"start": "00:38:54", "end": "00:39:01", "text": "exist. Yes, they are here. What are"}, {"start": "00:38:56", "end": "00:39:04", "text": "they? I don't know. But they are real."}, {"start": "00:39:01", "end": "00:39:06", "text": "Don't go saying UFOs don't exist. You"}, {"start": "00:39:04", "end": "00:39:08", "text": "sound dumb. I'm sorry. I'm sorry to use"}, {"start": "00:39:06", "end": "00:39:11", "text": "this language. And I shouldn't belittle"}, {"start": "00:39:08", "end": "00:39:13", "text": "anyone for their beliefs, but they are"}, {"start": "00:39:11", "end": "00:39:16", "text": "unidentified."}, {"start": "00:39:13", "end": "00:39:18", "text": "They're not identifiable."}, {"start": "00:39:16", "end": "00:39:20", "text": "And with footage like this, I can see"}, {"start": "00:39:18", "end": "00:39:23", "text": "why."}, {"start": "00:39:20", "end": "00:39:25", "text": "Indo Paccom. Okay, we have Oh, this is"}, {"start": "00:39:23", "end": "00:39:27", "text": "interesting. We have some size"}, {"start": "00:39:25", "end": "00:39:29", "text": "comparison here as well as a depth"}, {"start": "00:39:27", "end": "00:39:31", "text": "perhaps comparison. We saw on the bottom"}, {"start": "00:39:29", "end": "00:39:35", "text": "right some"}, {"start": "00:39:31", "end": "00:39:35", "text": "wind turbines."}, {"start": "00:39:36", "end": "00:39:40", "text": "So this object is moving."}, {"start": "00:39:43", "end": "00:39:49", "text": "Is it moving? Oh, now it's turning"}, {"start": "00:39:46", "end": "00:39:51", "text": "around. Hold on. We've got an object"}, {"start": "00:39:49", "end": "00:39:54", "text": "that just turned around. This is"}, {"start": "00:39:51", "end": "00:39:58", "text": "interesting."}, {"start": "00:39:54", "end": "00:39:59", "text": "It's picking up speed. It's now moving"}, {"start": "00:39:58", "end": "00:40:03", "text": "northeast."}, {"start": "00:39:59", "end": "00:40:03", "text": "It's now moving north."}, {"start": "00:40:03", "end": "00:40:08", "text": "And it"}, {"start": "00:40:06", "end": "00:40:12", "text": "Oh, whoa, whoa."}, {"start": "00:40:08", "end": "00:40:12", "text": "Hold on. Is it"}, {"start": "00:40:13", "end": "00:40:18", "text": "That's behind"}, {"start": "00:40:15", "end": "00:40:22", "text": "the turbine. No way. This is moving in"}, {"start": "00:40:18", "end": "00:40:22", "text": "between the turbines."}, {"start": "00:40:46", "end": "00:40:51", "text": "I think this is moving in between the"}, {"start": "00:40:48", "end": "00:40:55", "text": "turbines. Really hard to tell. It is"}, {"start": "00:40:51", "end": "00:40:55", "text": "clearly the object that is weaving."}, {"start": "00:40:56", "end": "00:41:02", "text": "like there is a fluctuation"}, {"start": "00:40:59", "end": "00:41:04", "text": "in how it's weaving here."}, {"start": "00:41:02", "end": "00:41:06", "text": "It's not traveling in a completely"}, {"start": "00:41:04", "end": "00:41:08", "text": "straight line like it's going through"}, {"start": "00:41:06", "end": "00:41:11", "text": "these"}, {"start": "00:41:08", "end": "00:41:13", "text": "through these things."}, {"start": "00:41:11", "end": "00:41:16", "text": "And yeah, it clearly looks like it's"}, {"start": "00:41:13", "end": "00:41:19", "text": "traveling behind a lot of these objects."}, {"start": "00:41:16", "end": "00:41:22", "text": "I don't know if that's the case here or"}, {"start": "00:41:19", "end": "00:41:26", "text": "if that's just an illusion of light,"}, {"start": "00:41:22", "end": "00:41:29", "text": "but uh"}, {"start": "00:41:26", "end": "00:41:30", "text": "that's cool."}, {"start": "00:41:29", "end": "00:41:35", "text": "Probably one of my favorites so far. Is"}, {"start": "00:41:30", "end": "00:41:35", "text": "it stopping again? It is."}, {"start": "00:41:35", "end": "00:41:40", "text": "And now it's moving south."}, {"start": "00:41:40", "end": "00:41:45", "text": "Um,"}, {"start": "00:41:43", "end": "00:41:48", "text": "one thing I can say is that this is"}, {"start": "00:41:45", "end": "00:41:51", "text": "behaving more like a drone"}, {"start": "00:41:48", "end": "00:41:53", "text": "in that"}, {"start": "00:41:51", "end": "00:41:56", "text": "it there's no instantaneous"}, {"start": "00:41:53", "end": "00:41:58", "text": "acceleration. There's no changing of"}, {"start": "00:41:56", "end": "00:42:02", "text": "direction instantaneously. It has to"}, {"start": "00:41:58", "end": "00:42:04", "text": "slow down and then it has to speed up."}, {"start": "00:42:02", "end": "00:42:06", "text": "And so that's the one thing I would say"}, {"start": "00:42:04", "end": "00:42:10", "text": "that this probably"}, {"start": "00:42:06", "end": "00:42:14", "text": "unless it's a UFO purposely behaving in"}, {"start": "00:42:10", "end": "00:42:17", "text": "that manner due to its limitations when"}, {"start": "00:42:14", "end": "00:42:20", "text": "it's near the ground. I don't know. But"}, {"start": "00:42:17", "end": "00:42:22", "text": "um this does seem to me like it could be"}, {"start": "00:42:20", "end": "00:42:24", "text": "prosaic and that we're just seeing some"}, {"start": "00:42:22", "end": "00:42:25", "text": "type of bloom because of the heat"}, {"start": "00:42:24", "end": "00:42:27", "text": "signature."}, {"start": "00:42:25", "end": "00:42:29", "text": "Um hard to say, but cool video"}, {"start": "00:42:27", "end": "00:42:33", "text": "nonetheless."}, {"start": "00:42:29", "end": "00:42:37", "text": "This one in North America."}, {"start": "00:42:33", "end": "00:42:37", "text": "What is that?"}, {"start": "00:42:37", "end": "00:42:42", "text": "Okay, that's a drone. Okay, it was"}, {"start": "00:42:40", "end": "00:42:46", "text": "following a drone and then it's like"}, {"start": "00:42:42", "end": "00:42:46", "text": "let's follow this thing"}, {"start": "00:42:48", "end": "00:42:55", "text": "and that I presume is heat signatures"}, {"start": "00:42:51", "end": "00:42:55", "text": "or at least"}, {"start": "00:42:55", "end": "00:43:00", "text": "you know the light"}, {"start": "00:42:57", "end": "00:43:03", "text": "being produced off these things and"}, {"start": "00:43:00", "end": "00:43:03", "text": "that's what we're seeing here."}, {"start": "00:43:08", "end": "00:43:12", "text": "Hard to know where it's if it's"}, {"start": "00:43:11", "end": "00:43:14", "text": "traveling at all. It seems like it is"}, {"start": "00:43:12", "end": "00:43:16", "text": "moving."}, {"start": "00:43:14", "end": "00:43:21", "text": "Is that plume we see behind it? Is that"}, {"start": "00:43:16", "end": "00:43:21", "text": "like a jet stream or"}, {"start": "00:43:21", "end": "00:43:25", "text": "Okay, it does seem to have a jet stream."}, {"start": "00:43:23", "end": "00:43:30", "text": "So, this probably is some type of drone"}, {"start": "00:43:25", "end": "00:43:33", "text": "or aircraft, plane, jet, I would guess."}, {"start": "00:43:30", "end": "00:43:36", "text": "Why it ends up in the UAP files, I don't"}, {"start": "00:43:33", "end": "00:43:36", "text": "know."}, {"start": "00:43:38", "end": "00:43:43", "text": "To me, it does seem to have some type of"}, {"start": "00:43:40", "end": "00:43:43", "text": "exhaust plume."}, {"start": "00:43:44", "end": "00:43:50", "text": "Am I missing something? Maybe."}, {"start": "00:43:47", "end": "00:43:55", "text": "Is this the Harry Potter car"}, {"start": "00:43:50", "end": "00:43:55", "text": "escaping from the Wamping Willow?"}, {"start": "00:43:57", "end": "00:44:04", "text": "Could be. Is that Harry and Ron"}, {"start": "00:44:01", "end": "00:44:04", "text": "late for school?"}, {"start": "00:44:04", "end": "00:44:07", "text": "plausible."}, {"start": "00:44:12", "end": "00:44:17", "text": "Again, changing reticles or filters"}, {"start": "00:44:16", "end": "00:44:20", "text": "to try and get a better read on this"}, {"start": "00:44:17", "end": "00:44:23", "text": "object, it would seem."}, {"start": "00:44:20", "end": "00:44:25", "text": "Yeah, nothing too crazy here. Folks, it"}, {"start": "00:44:23", "end": "00:44:29", "text": "is the next morning. It is May 9th, and"}, {"start": "00:44:25", "end": "00:44:31", "text": "I just refreshed the war.gov/UFO /UFO"}, {"start": "00:44:29", "end": "00:44:32", "text": "website and it seems like those videos"}, {"start": "00:44:31", "end": "00:44:34", "text": "that were initially missing or"}, {"start": "00:44:32", "end": "00:44:36", "text": "malfunctioning are now back up. So, we"}, {"start": "00:44:34", "end": "00:44:37", "text": "are going to also add them into the"}, {"start": "00:44:36", "end": "00:44:40", "text": "review and I apologize for that. I don't"}, {"start": "00:44:37", "end": "00:44:41", "text": "know if it was on my end or on their"}, {"start": "00:44:40", "end": "00:44:44", "text": "end, but I'm sure a lot of people were"}, {"start": "00:44:41", "end": "00:44:47", "text": "accessing the website at that time. And"}, {"start": "00:44:44", "end": "00:44:50", "text": "so, the first one, I believe it was the"}, {"start": "00:44:47", "end": "00:44:53", "text": "United Arab Emirates. Yes, this one."}, {"start": "00:44:50", "end": "00:44:55", "text": "Exactly. And it says here, \"An area of"}, {"start": "00:44:53", "end": "00:44:57", "text": "contrast, meaning the UFO remains"}, {"start": "00:44:55", "end": "00:44:59", "text": "generally within the top left corner of"}, {"start": "00:44:57", "end": "00:45:01", "text": "the display. The sensor pans from right"}, {"start": "00:44:59", "end": "00:45:02", "text": "to left, causing the area of contrast to"}, {"start": "00:45:01", "end": "00:45:04", "text": "pass through the center of the display."}, {"start": "00:45:02", "end": "00:45:06", "text": "The sensor then passes from the left to"}, {"start": "00:45:04", "end": "00:45:08", "text": "right, causing the area of contrast to"}, {"start": "00:45:06", "end": "00:45:10", "text": "return to its approximate initial"}, {"start": "00:45:08", "end": "00:45:12", "text": "position. So it doesn't seem like the"}, {"start": "00:45:10", "end": "00:45:16", "text": "object is moving, but in fact, the"}, {"start": "00:45:12", "end": "00:45:19", "text": "sensor is.\" Let's have a look here."}, {"start": "00:45:16", "end": "00:45:21", "text": "Okay."}, {"start": "00:45:19", "end": "00:45:24", "text": "Oh, this thing. I mean, again, feels"}, {"start": "00:45:21", "end": "00:45:28", "text": "like it's moving pretty fast. Hard to"}, {"start": "00:45:24", "end": "00:45:30", "text": "tell, but it does feel that way."}, {"start": "00:45:28", "end": "00:45:33", "text": "And what kind of an object is this? Look"}, {"start": "00:45:30", "end": "00:45:33", "text": "at that."}, {"start": "00:45:36", "end": "00:45:42", "text": "So, that is the Now, there is some"}, {"start": "00:45:38", "end": "00:45:46", "text": "parallax happening here."}, {"start": "00:45:42", "end": "00:45:48", "text": "That illusion of going really fast."}, {"start": "00:45:46", "end": "00:45:51", "text": "Oh, but you see when the camera stopped"}, {"start": "00:45:48", "end": "00:45:53", "text": "how fast it still kind of went."}, {"start": "00:45:51", "end": "00:45:56", "text": "That's actually some good information"}, {"start": "00:45:53", "end": "00:45:56", "text": "there."}, {"start": "00:45:57", "end": "00:46:02", "text": "Now, maybe it did that just to check. I"}, {"start": "00:46:00", "end": "00:46:07", "text": "don't know cuz it is hard to see, I'm"}, {"start": "00:46:02", "end": "00:46:09", "text": "sure. Um, but that object looked very"}, {"start": "00:46:07", "end": "00:46:14", "text": "interesting if you look at it. It It"}, {"start": "00:46:09", "end": "00:46:14", "text": "looks like a bundle of orbs."}, {"start": "00:46:15", "end": "00:46:19", "text": "really hard to tell what that is. I like"}, {"start": "00:46:18", "end": "00:46:21", "text": "the idea that one of these videos might"}, {"start": "00:46:19", "end": "00:46:23", "text": "actually be a flying saucer and we're"}, {"start": "00:46:21", "end": "00:46:24", "text": "just looking at these blips and being"}, {"start": "00:46:23", "end": "00:46:27", "text": "like, \"Oh, that's interesting.\" But it"}, {"start": "00:46:24", "end": "00:46:29", "text": "might be just somebody from, you know,"}, {"start": "00:46:27", "end": "00:46:32", "text": "some other civilization. Insane to think"}, {"start": "00:46:29", "end": "00:46:34", "text": "about that, honestly. Another one from"}, {"start": "00:46:32", "end": "00:46:36", "text": "the UAE. This one says, \"An area of"}, {"start": "00:46:34", "end": "00:46:37", "text": "contrast becomes distinguishable against"}, {"start": "00:46:36", "end": "00:46:40", "text": "the background of the center of the"}, {"start": "00:46:37", "end": "00:46:42", "text": "right side of the display. The IR sensor"}, {"start": "00:46:40", "end": "00:46:46", "text": "pans to the right area of the contrast.\""}, {"start": "00:46:42", "end": "00:46:46", "text": "Okay, let's just watch this."}, {"start": "00:46:47", "end": "00:46:51", "text": "right side. Where are we looking at"}, {"start": "00:46:48", "end": "00:46:51", "text": "here?"}, {"start": "00:46:56", "end": "00:47:02", "text": "I'm looking."}, {"start": "00:46:59", "end": "00:47:04", "text": "I should have looked at the timestamps."}, {"start": "00:47:02", "end": "00:47:06", "text": "Now I'm just scanning the Oh, there it"}, {"start": "00:47:04", "end": "00:47:09", "text": "was. Okay, I think that's that's what it"}, {"start": "00:47:06", "end": "00:47:09", "text": "was."}, {"start": "00:47:10", "end": "00:47:14", "text": "Let's see if it comes back because there"}, {"start": "00:47:12", "end": "00:47:19", "text": "was something."}, {"start": "00:47:14", "end": "00:47:19", "text": "Just going to rewind. Look over here."}, {"start": "00:47:20", "end": "00:47:26", "text": "Don't blink. You'll miss it."}, {"start": "00:47:24", "end": "00:47:29", "text": "Yeah, there."}, {"start": "00:47:26", "end": "00:47:33", "text": "Watch right here in this little straight"}, {"start": "00:47:29", "end": "00:47:33", "text": "area right there."}, {"start": "00:47:33", "end": "00:47:42", "text": "It's very fast. Whatever that was."}, {"start": "00:47:38", "end": "00:47:44", "text": "lowflying duck. I don't know."}, {"start": "00:47:42", "end": "00:47:46", "text": "But is that the Let me just really"}, {"start": "00:47:44", "end": "00:47:49", "text": "quickly go back to the time stamp here."}, {"start": "00:47:46", "end": "00:47:51", "text": "Wow. So, we might have just caught"}, {"start": "00:47:49", "end": "00:47:54", "text": "something that actually wasn't discussed"}, {"start": "00:47:51", "end": "00:47:56", "text": "because between 0 and 155 there is no"}, {"start": "00:47:54", "end": "00:47:59", "text": "content apparently."}, {"start": "00:47:56", "end": "00:48:01", "text": "And I would like to I would like to"}, {"start": "00:47:59", "end": "00:48:03", "text": "contest that there is some content. So,"}, {"start": "00:48:01", "end": "00:48:05", "text": "let's go to 155 and see what they're"}, {"start": "00:48:03", "end": "00:48:06", "text": "talking about and see if it actually"}, {"start": "00:48:05", "end": "00:48:10", "text": "looks like the object that we were"}, {"start": "00:48:06", "end": "00:48:10", "text": "looking at. Here"}, {"start": "00:48:11", "end": "00:48:17", "text": "we go. There. Okay. This is the object"}, {"start": "00:48:14", "end": "00:48:17", "text": "here."}, {"start": "00:48:17", "end": "00:48:21", "text": "Okay. It looks like it's actually"}, {"start": "00:48:19", "end": "00:48:25", "text": "turning"}, {"start": "00:48:21", "end": "00:48:25", "text": "again. I'm seeing fluttering."}, {"start": "00:48:26", "end": "00:48:30", "text": "You know, for me"}, {"start": "00:48:30", "end": "00:48:38", "text": "initially I think bird, but maybe I'm"}, {"start": "00:48:33", "end": "00:48:38", "text": "wrong here. We're zoomed in."}, {"start": "00:48:39", "end": "00:48:44", "text": "And we're looking down. So that is the"}, {"start": "00:48:40", "end": "00:48:44", "text": "water that you're seeing under it."}, {"start": "00:48:46", "end": "00:48:53", "text": "So hard to tell without any sensor data,"}, {"start": "00:48:50", "end": "00:48:56", "text": "elevation, speed, trajectory, any of"}, {"start": "00:48:53", "end": "00:48:57", "text": "that. We're just kind of looking at this"}, {"start": "00:48:56", "end": "00:49:00", "text": "amorphous"}, {"start": "00:48:57", "end": "00:49:03", "text": "tiny blob"}, {"start": "00:49:00", "end": "00:49:05", "text": "fluttering around. Um, I wish we can get"}, {"start": "00:49:03", "end": "00:49:08", "text": "just a clear look at. So, it looks like"}, {"start": "00:49:05", "end": "00:49:11", "text": "there's some type of tail on this thing."}, {"start": "00:49:08", "end": "00:49:15", "text": "And I don't know if that's just"}, {"start": "00:49:11", "end": "00:49:18", "text": "trail fragments and artifacts of the low"}, {"start": "00:49:15", "end": "00:49:18", "text": "resolution."}, {"start": "00:49:23", "end": "00:49:28", "text": "Extremely hard to tell. Again, the"}, {"start": "00:49:24", "end": "00:49:30", "text": "illusion that this is going fast is very"}, {"start": "00:49:28", "end": "00:49:32", "text": "real. And I want to reiterate that. And"}, {"start": "00:49:30", "end": "00:49:37", "text": "I know that I'm kind of repeating myself"}, {"start": "00:49:32", "end": "00:49:39", "text": "here, but it is so easy to be fooled by"}, {"start": "00:49:37", "end": "00:49:43", "text": "the parallax effect. It really is. And"}, {"start": "00:49:39", "end": "00:49:45", "text": "it's a true thing. So look now, do do"}, {"start": "00:49:43", "end": "00:49:46", "text": "you see how the camera's slowing down?"}, {"start": "00:49:45", "end": "00:49:48", "text": "And now you see the real speed of the"}, {"start": "00:49:46", "end": "00:49:51", "text": "object. Now it looks like Oh, it looks"}, {"start": "00:49:48", "end": "00:49:51", "text": "like it's changing direction."}, {"start": "00:49:57", "end": "00:50:00", "text": "By all means,"}, {"start": "00:50:00", "end": "00:50:07", "text": "it perceives to be faster"}, {"start": "00:50:04", "end": "00:50:10", "text": "than a bird, but I don't know that that"}, {"start": "00:50:07", "end": "00:50:10", "text": "is the case."}, {"start": "00:50:12", "end": "00:50:18", "text": "I don't I just can't confirm that. You"}, {"start": "00:50:14", "end": "00:50:20", "text": "know, the other thing that we're"}, {"start": "00:50:18", "end": "00:50:24", "text": "noticing, again, just like the windmill"}, {"start": "00:50:20", "end": "00:50:26", "text": "video, is a deceleration before a 180"}, {"start": "00:50:24", "end": "00:50:28", "text": "turn and then an acceleration once it"}, {"start": "00:50:26", "end": "00:50:31", "text": "begins to turn again, which usually, I"}, {"start": "00:50:28", "end": "00:50:34", "text": "mean, that"}, {"start": "00:50:31", "end": "00:50:36", "text": "kind of falls in line with"}, {"start": "00:50:34", "end": "00:50:38", "text": "the technology that we have, the"}, {"start": "00:50:36", "end": "00:50:41", "text": "propulsion that we have."}, {"start": "00:50:38", "end": "00:50:43", "text": "You know, this is not the same behavior"}, {"start": "00:50:41", "end": "00:50:45", "text": "that we hear from Commander Fraver where"}, {"start": "00:50:43", "end": "00:50:48", "text": "there's things bouncing around like a I"}, {"start": "00:50:45", "end": "00:50:52", "text": "think like he put it like a"}, {"start": "00:50:48", "end": "00:50:53", "text": "like a pinball. Yeah, it is. I mean, it"}, {"start": "00:50:52", "end": "00:50:55", "text": "seems to be moving very fast. I don't"}, {"start": "00:50:53", "end": "00:50:57", "text": "know. It's going back to home base now."}, {"start": "00:50:55", "end": "00:51:00", "text": "Is it a drone? Is it a bird that's"}, {"start": "00:50:57", "end": "00:51:02", "text": "coming back to the nest? Is it a UFO"}, {"start": "00:51:00", "end": "00:51:04", "text": "that lives in the mountains in the"}, {"start": "00:51:02", "end": "00:51:08", "text": "ocean? I don't know. But all"}, {"start": "00:51:04", "end": "00:51:10", "text": "explanations are still plausible. And I"}, {"start": "00:51:08", "end": "00:51:12", "text": "hate to be that guy that goes, \"That's"}, {"start": "00:51:10", "end": "00:51:14", "text": "not a real UFO.\" And I'm not that guy. I"}, {"start": "00:51:12", "end": "00:51:16", "text": "don't know if that's a real UFO. Well,"}, {"start": "00:51:14", "end": "00:51:18", "text": "it is unidentified. I just don't know if"}, {"start": "00:51:16", "end": "00:51:20", "text": "that's an alien. I always for this"}, {"start": "00:51:18", "end": "00:51:23", "text": "stuff, it's always probably safer to air"}, {"start": "00:51:20", "end": "00:51:26", "text": "on the side of caution."}, {"start": "00:51:23", "end": "00:51:29", "text": "And know that even if.1%"}, {"start": "00:51:26", "end": "00:51:31", "text": "of these videos are authentically"}, {"start": "00:51:29", "end": "00:51:32", "text": "proving some type of non-human"}, {"start": "00:51:31", "end": "00:51:34", "text": "intelligence, that's all that matters."}, {"start": "00:51:32", "end": "00:51:36", "text": "That really is all that matters. We"}, {"start": "00:51:34", "end": "00:51:40", "text": "don't need a hundred UFO videos. We just"}, {"start": "00:51:36", "end": "00:51:43", "text": "need one. that is unequivocally"}, {"start": "00:51:40", "end": "00:51:45", "text": "displaying NHI capability. That's it."}, {"start": "00:51:43", "end": "00:51:47", "text": "So, it's okay to be skeptical. It's okay"}, {"start": "00:51:45", "end": "00:51:49", "text": "to look at these things and scrutinize."}, {"start": "00:51:47", "end": "00:51:51", "text": "It makes the ones that are real just"}, {"start": "00:51:49", "end": "00:51:53", "text": "that much more valuable. Greece, this"}, {"start": "00:51:51", "end": "00:51:55", "text": "one we missed as well. Let me go back"}, {"start": "00:51:53", "end": "00:51:57", "text": "here."}, {"start": "00:51:55", "end": "00:51:59", "text": "This one. Greece. This one we missed as"}, {"start": "00:51:57", "end": "00:52:04", "text": "well."}, {"start": "00:51:59", "end": "00:52:04", "text": "D. Let's see. This is in 2024."}, {"start": "00:52:05", "end": "00:52:10", "text": "Okay. military platform. An accompanying"}, {"start": "00:52:08", "end": "00:52:12", "text": "mission report"}, {"start": "00:52:10", "end": "00:52:16", "text": "at the Department of War UAP D7"}, {"start": "00:52:12", "end": "00:52:19", "text": "described the UAP as diamond shaped"}, {"start": "00:52:16", "end": "00:52:21", "text": "and moving approximately 434 knots,"}, {"start": "00:52:19", "end": "00:52:23", "text": "which is like roughly the same in miles"}, {"start": "00:52:21", "end": "00:52:26", "text": "an hour. The observer also reported that"}, {"start": "00:52:23", "end": "00:52:31", "text": "the UAP was only detectable via"}, {"start": "00:52:26", "end": "00:52:34", "text": "shortwave infrared sensor. Whoa."}, {"start": "00:52:31", "end": "00:52:36", "text": "This thing was invisible to the eye."}, {"start": "00:52:34", "end": "00:52:38", "text": "The screen is split in two viewing areas"}, {"start": "00:52:36", "end": "00:52:40", "text": "for the first time for the first 10"}, {"start": "00:52:38", "end": "00:52:42", "text": "seconds of the video with the right side"}, {"start": "00:52:40", "end": "00:52:45", "text": "displaying electrooptical footage and"}, {"start": "00:52:42", "end": "00:52:47", "text": "the left side displaying"}, {"start": "00:52:45", "end": "00:52:48", "text": "um infrared shortwave infrared. Okay,"}, {"start": "00:52:47", "end": "00:52:51", "text": "let's just have a look here. This is"}, {"start": "00:52:48", "end": "00:52:53", "text": "intriguing me."}, {"start": "00:52:51", "end": "00:52:55", "text": "So, we're looking at the same footage"}, {"start": "00:52:53", "end": "00:52:57", "text": "with different"}, {"start": "00:52:55", "end": "00:53:01", "text": "Okay, so notice on the right side it is"}, {"start": "00:52:57", "end": "00:53:03", "text": "visible and on the left side it isn't."}, {"start": "00:53:01", "end": "00:53:04", "text": "They're unable to capture it on the left"}, {"start": "00:53:03", "end": "00:53:07", "text": "side. That might be what they're talking"}, {"start": "00:53:04", "end": "00:53:07", "text": "about. Whoa."}, {"start": "00:53:08", "end": "00:53:14", "text": "I mean, it's got the shape of a balloon."}, {"start": "00:53:11", "end": "00:53:16", "text": "I will say that now."}, {"start": "00:53:14", "end": "00:53:19", "text": "Like a cluster of balloons. I don't"}, {"start": "00:53:16", "end": "00:53:19", "text": "know. I don't"}, {"start": "00:53:20", "end": "00:53:29", "text": "not moving at 500 knots. It isn't. I'll"}, {"start": "00:53:22", "end": "00:53:29", "text": "tell you that. Jellyfish UFO perhaps."}, {"start": "00:53:29", "end": "00:53:32", "text": "Again,"}, {"start": "00:53:34", "end": "00:53:37", "text": "if you're an operator in one of these"}, {"start": "00:53:36", "end": "00:53:39", "text": "things, one of these drones, and looking"}, {"start": "00:53:37", "end": "00:53:40", "text": "at this, you must also be scratching"}, {"start": "00:53:39", "end": "00:53:44", "text": "your head and being like, \"What the hell"}, {"start": "00:53:40", "end": "00:53:46", "text": "is that?\" Like,"}, {"start": "00:53:44", "end": "00:53:48", "text": "now humans are capable of creating weird"}, {"start": "00:53:46", "end": "00:53:49", "text": "looking things and throwing them up in"}, {"start": "00:53:48", "end": "00:53:52", "text": "the atmosphere, letting them go or"}, {"start": "00:53:49", "end": "00:53:54", "text": "flying them around."}, {"start": "00:53:52", "end": "00:53:56", "text": "We have that ability,"}, {"start": "00:53:54", "end": "00:53:57", "text": "but we also have trained observers"}, {"start": "00:53:56", "end": "00:53:59", "text": "looking at these things and, you know,"}, {"start": "00:53:57", "end": "00:54:03", "text": "wondering what the heck they are. Uh, I"}, {"start": "00:53:59", "end": "00:54:06", "text": "will contest though near the end of this"}, {"start": "00:54:03", "end": "00:54:07", "text": "footage. What is that then? That's not"}, {"start": "00:54:06", "end": "00:54:10", "text": "shortwave infrared. And we kind of see"}, {"start": "00:54:07", "end": "00:54:12", "text": "it here. So, it seems like it is"}, {"start": "00:54:10", "end": "00:54:15", "text": "detectable with a different lens. And I"}, {"start": "00:54:12", "end": "00:54:17", "text": "don't understand. I don't understand"}, {"start": "00:54:15", "end": "00:54:20", "text": "military cameras. I know that they are"}, {"start": "00:54:17", "end": "00:54:23", "text": "made for detecting enemies and firing"}, {"start": "00:54:20", "end": "00:54:26", "text": "upon them and whatnot,"}, {"start": "00:54:23", "end": "00:54:29", "text": "but it would be really valuable if they"}, {"start": "00:54:26", "end": "00:54:33", "text": "were also, you know, just really good at"}, {"start": "00:54:29", "end": "00:54:34", "text": "filming things properly. Gulf of Oman, I"}, {"start": "00:54:33", "end": "00:54:36", "text": "think this is another one that we didn't"}, {"start": "00:54:34", "end": "00:54:38", "text": "get to see. The accompanying mission"}, {"start": "00:54:36", "end": "00:54:40", "text": "report uh described the UAP as"}, {"start": "00:54:38", "end": "00:54:42", "text": "consisting of an object with a vertical"}, {"start": "00:54:40", "end": "00:54:44", "text": "pole and a bar attached to the bottom of"}, {"start": "00:54:42", "end": "00:54:47", "text": "the object. The server also reported the"}, {"start": "00:54:44", "end": "00:54:50", "text": "UAP may instead be a reflection."}, {"start": "00:54:47", "end": "00:54:54", "text": "The UAP may instead be a reflection from"}, {"start": "00:54:50", "end": "00:54:57", "text": "an object in the water. So, is the UAP"}, {"start": "00:54:54", "end": "00:54:59", "text": "a submerged object or not? An area of"}, {"start": "00:54:57", "end": "00:55:02", "text": "contrast. It says inverted teardrop with"}, {"start": "00:54:59", "end": "00:55:05", "text": "a vertically linear trailing mass"}, {"start": "00:55:02", "end": "00:55:07", "text": "suspended below it. So, again, kind of"}, {"start": "00:55:05", "end": "00:55:09", "text": "like the other one we just looked at."}, {"start": "00:55:07", "end": "00:55:11", "text": "Another"}, {"start": "00:55:09", "end": "00:55:12", "text": "cluster of balloons, ice cream cone,"}, {"start": "00:55:11", "end": "00:55:16", "text": "jellyfish"}, {"start": "00:55:12", "end": "00:55:18", "text": "type thing. Let's have a look."}, {"start": "00:55:16", "end": "00:55:21", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:55:18", "end": "00:55:24", "text": "Unless these are the jellyfish UFOs that"}, {"start": "00:55:21", "end": "00:55:27", "text": "everybody refers to"}, {"start": "00:55:24", "end": "00:55:28", "text": "because if you were I I don't see it as"}, {"start": "00:55:27", "end": "00:55:29", "text": "I don't know. I don't see it as being"}, {"start": "00:55:28", "end": "00:55:32", "text": "balloons cuz like if you were traveling"}, {"start": "00:55:29", "end": "00:55:36", "text": "that fast like the strings would be a"}, {"start": "00:55:32", "end": "00:55:38", "text": "little bit more I don't know"}, {"start": "00:55:36", "end": "00:55:42", "text": "straight horizontally."}, {"start": "00:55:38", "end": "00:55:44", "text": "But how is that a reflection of"}, {"start": "00:55:42", "end": "00:55:47", "text": "something in the water? I don't"}, {"start": "00:55:44", "end": "00:55:47", "text": "understand."}, {"start": "00:55:49", "end": "00:55:55", "text": "I mean if that was in the water that'd"}, {"start": "00:55:51", "end": "00:55:58", "text": "be I think much more impressive. Also"}, {"start": "00:55:55", "end": "00:56:00", "text": "reiterating again the amount of"}, {"start": "00:55:58", "end": "00:56:03", "text": "sightings that occur around the body of"}, {"start": "00:56:00", "end": "00:56:05", "text": "the bodies of water is uh"}, {"start": "00:56:03", "end": "00:56:07", "text": "is to be noted. I think that was it."}, {"start": "00:56:05", "end": "00:56:08", "text": "Yeah, I think that was it. Oh, and there"}, {"start": "00:56:07", "end": "00:56:11", "text": "was one that we forgot to look at which"}, {"start": "00:56:08", "end": "00:56:13", "text": "was on page eight, which was this one"}, {"start": "00:56:11", "end": "00:56:14", "text": "here was like a cigar- shaped craft"}, {"start": "00:56:13", "end": "00:56:17", "text": "which I thought was really interesting"}, {"start": "00:56:14", "end": "00:56:18", "text": "cuz it's the only one of its kind in"}, {"start": "00:56:17", "end": "00:56:21", "text": "this drop. But we hear about this,"}, {"start": "00:56:18", "end": "00:56:24", "text": "especially from pilots, believe it or"}, {"start": "00:56:21", "end": "00:56:27", "text": "not, these giant cylindrical massive"}, {"start": "00:56:24", "end": "00:56:29", "text": "like milelong cylinders"}, {"start": "00:56:27", "end": "00:56:31", "text": "that are just kind of floating in the"}, {"start": "00:56:29", "end": "00:56:33", "text": "sky. So, this might be one of those"}, {"start": "00:56:31", "end": "00:56:35", "text": "things. The cigar- shaped tube- like"}, {"start": "00:56:33", "end": "00:56:38", "text": "objects. Watch the bottom of the screen"}, {"start": "00:56:35", "end": "00:56:41", "text": "here. Boom. That's it. You blink, you"}, {"start": "00:56:38", "end": "00:56:44", "text": "missed it. But we've got technology. We"}, {"start": "00:56:41", "end": "00:56:47", "text": "can pause and enhance. Hold on. Right"}, {"start": "00:56:44", "end": "00:56:47", "text": "there."}, {"start": "00:56:47", "end": "00:56:52", "text": "So I would I would say that that looks"}, {"start": "00:56:50", "end": "00:56:56", "text": "like"}, {"start": "00:56:52", "end": "00:56:58", "text": "it doesn't look like a small object."}, {"start": "00:56:56", "end": "00:57:00", "text": "It looks it looks like a cylindrical"}, {"start": "00:56:58", "end": "00:57:01", "text": "object. Do you know what I mean?"}, {"start": "00:57:00", "end": "00:57:04", "text": "Sometimes you can have like an object"}, {"start": "00:57:01", "end": "00:57:06", "text": "and because of the frame it just kind of"}, {"start": "00:57:04", "end": "00:57:08", "text": "gets stretched out. But here and that"}, {"start": "00:57:06", "end": "00:57:12", "text": "doesn't look like a trail. It just looks"}, {"start": "00:57:08", "end": "00:57:14", "text": "like a trail left due to the uh like"}, {"start": "00:57:12", "end": "00:57:17", "text": "artifacts of the object passing through"}, {"start": "00:57:14", "end": "00:57:23", "text": "the pixels."}, {"start": "00:57:17", "end": "00:57:23", "text": "But that is 100% a cigar-like object."}, {"start": "00:57:24", "end": "00:57:29", "text": "Where was this again? In the Middle"}, {"start": "00:57:26", "end": "00:57:31", "text": "East. Okay. So, an accompanying mission"}, {"start": "00:57:29", "end": "00:57:34", "text": "report described the observation as"}, {"start": "00:57:31", "end": "00:57:36", "text": "possible missile. Ah, the report also"}, {"start": "00:57:34", "end": "00:57:38", "text": "described four other objects not"}, {"start": "00:57:36", "end": "00:57:39", "text": "depicted in this video as possible"}, {"start": "00:57:38", "end": "00:57:41", "text": "birds."}, {"start": "00:57:39", "end": "00:57:43", "text": "Okay, why even mention that possible"}, {"start": "00:57:41", "end": "00:57:46", "text": "missile?"}, {"start": "00:57:43", "end": "00:57:49", "text": "I would, if you, if you gave me a"}, {"start": "00:57:46", "end": "00:57:51", "text": "choice, is this a cylindrical UFO from"}, {"start": "00:57:49", "end": "00:57:54", "text": "another distant galaxy or is this a"}, {"start": "00:57:51", "end": "00:57:58", "text": "missile? You would have to air on the"}, {"start": "00:57:54", "end": "00:58:01", "text": "side of caution. It is the sharpest side"}, {"start": "00:57:58", "end": "00:58:03", "text": "of the AAM's razor and I think you would"}, {"start": "00:58:01", "end": "00:58:06", "text": "have to just concede to it being a"}, {"start": "00:58:03", "end": "00:58:08", "text": "missile. Unfortunately, I reiterate I"}, {"start": "00:58:06", "end": "00:58:10", "text": "want to believe I want to not that I"}, {"start": "00:58:08", "end": "00:58:11", "text": "want to believe. I kind of know"}, {"start": "00:58:10", "end": "00:58:13", "text": "something's going on. I want to believe"}, {"start": "00:58:11", "end": "00:58:17", "text": "that these are UFOs."}, {"start": "00:58:13", "end": "00:58:21", "text": "Um, but when we do have craft that looks"}, {"start": "00:58:17", "end": "00:58:25", "text": "identical to a UFO on a infrared camera"}, {"start": "00:58:21", "end": "00:58:29", "text": "and we are in enemy territory where"}, {"start": "00:58:25", "end": "00:58:29", "text": "missiles are bound,"}, {"start": "00:58:29", "end": "00:58:36", "text": "you got to kind of consider that option"}, {"start": "00:58:32", "end": "00:58:39", "text": "at a higher rate of conviction than,"}, {"start": "00:58:36", "end": "00:58:41", "text": "you know, that being aliens. Just my"}, {"start": "00:58:39", "end": "00:58:43", "text": "take, maybe a hot take, I don't know."}, {"start": "00:58:41", "end": "00:58:45", "text": "But, you know, being grounded with this"}, {"start": "00:58:43", "end": "00:58:47", "text": "stuff, I think is really important."}, {"start": "00:58:45", "end": "00:58:48", "text": "Initially, you know, I saw these videos"}, {"start": "00:58:47", "end": "00:58:50", "text": "and I was freaking out. I was like,"}, {"start": "00:58:48", "end": "00:58:53", "text": "\"Let's go.\" And then, you know, just"}, {"start": "00:58:50", "end": "00:58:54", "text": "like many of you, I look into them more"}, {"start": "00:58:53", "end": "00:58:55", "text": "and I kind of get a little more"}, {"start": "00:58:54", "end": "00:58:57", "text": "skeptical. And I think people do that."}, {"start": "00:58:55", "end": "00:58:59", "text": "And I think that's the right way to go"}, {"start": "00:58:57", "end": "00:59:02", "text": "about it with these things. But let me"}, {"start": "00:58:59", "end": "00:59:05", "text": "know what you think. And that is it for"}, {"start": "00:59:02", "end": "00:59:10", "text": "the videos. The rest are all imagery. We"}, {"start": "00:59:05", "end": "00:59:10", "text": "can look at some of the images here. Uh,"}, {"start": "00:59:12", "end": "00:59:15", "text": "great."}, {"start": "00:59:16", "end": "00:59:19", "text": "Incredible."}, {"start": "00:59:21", "end": "00:59:24", "text": "Wonderful."}, {"start": "00:59:25", "end": "00:59:29", "text": "Wow. Unbelievable."}, {"start": "00:59:30", "end": "00:59:35", "text": "Another round"}, {"start": "00:59:32", "end": "00:59:36", "text": "thing. This is Yeah, I don't know what"}, {"start": "00:59:35", "end": "00:59:40", "text": "to make of any of these. which are just"}, {"start": "00:59:36", "end": "00:59:42", "text": "black dots that you know I don't know um"}, {"start": "00:59:40", "end": "00:59:47", "text": "just more more of the same it seems like"}, {"start": "00:59:42", "end": "00:59:51", "text": "more just dots in the sky double dots"}, {"start": "00:59:47", "end": "00:59:52", "text": "anomalous be that as it may"}, {"start": "00:59:51", "end": "00:59:54", "text": "unimpressive"}, {"start": "00:59:52", "end": "00:59:58", "text": "um that's a helicopter but then there's"}, {"start": "00:59:54", "end": "00:59:59", "text": "an object down here"}, {"start": "00:59:58", "end": "01:00:01", "text": "uh some of the more impressive stuff is"}, {"start": "00:59:59", "end": "01:00:03", "text": "obviously"}, {"start": "01:00:01", "end": "01:00:06", "text": "the transcripts like here you have the"}, {"start": "01:00:03", "end": "01:00:10", "text": "Apollo 12 and Apollo transcripts. You"}, {"start": "01:00:06", "end": "01:00:13", "text": "got some more Apollos 11 17 and Skyab"}, {"start": "01:00:10", "end": "01:00:16", "text": "trans uh transcripts here that just talk"}, {"start": "01:00:13", "end": "01:00:18", "text": "about technical debriefings of debris"}, {"start": "01:00:16", "end": "01:00:22", "text": "and anomalous bogeies as they put it"}, {"start": "01:00:18", "end": "01:00:25", "text": "that are exiting the moon's orbit and"}, {"start": "01:00:22", "end": "01:00:26", "text": "flying into space. All of that is very"}, {"start": "01:00:25", "end": "01:00:28", "text": "very intriguing. I don't want to cover"}, {"start": "01:00:26", "end": "01:00:30", "text": "that today. I want to deep dive into"}, {"start": "01:00:28", "end": "01:00:31", "text": "those things a little bit more,"}, {"start": "01:00:30", "end": "01:00:34", "text": "including a lot of the photos they"}, {"start": "01:00:31", "end": "01:00:36", "text": "shared. Like you see these photos here"}, {"start": "01:00:34", "end": "01:00:38", "text": "which appear to have, you know, appear"}, {"start": "01:00:36", "end": "01:00:39", "text": "to be some type of physical object. Look"}, {"start": "01:00:38", "end": "01:00:42", "text": "at that. That clearly looks like some"}, {"start": "01:00:39", "end": "01:00:47", "text": "type of tic-tac pill-shaped object"}, {"start": "01:00:42", "end": "01:00:50", "text": "floating above the moon. Um, so I would"}, {"start": "01:00:47", "end": "01:00:53", "text": "love to have a look at that as well. And"}, {"start": "01:00:50", "end": "01:00:55", "text": "then just more reports from sightings by"}, {"start": "01:00:53", "end": "01:00:59", "text": "military personnel it would seem. And"}, {"start": "01:00:55", "end": "01:01:01", "text": "then if you go into the earlier stuff,"}, {"start": "01:00:59", "end": "01:01:04", "text": "you will see"}, {"start": "01:01:01", "end": "01:01:06", "text": "a lot of earlier sightings like this"}, {"start": "01:01:04", "end": "01:01:07", "text": "here. We'll just open one just to give"}, {"start": "01:01:06", "end": "01:01:10", "text": "you a quick glimpse, but these are"}, {"start": "01:01:07", "end": "01:01:12", "text": "packages, media link packages. This is"}, {"start": "01:01:10", "end": "01:01:16", "text": "from 1947. Very interesting stuff"}, {"start": "01:01:12", "end": "01:01:18", "text": "indeed. Uh, and it begins in like July."}, {"start": "01:01:16", "end": "01:01:20", "text": "And this has to do with letters to the"}, {"start": "01:01:18", "end": "01:01:24", "text": "president. It has to do with all sorts"}, {"start": "01:01:20", "end": "01:01:26", "text": "of fun stuff. It it it is a cool time"}, {"start": "01:01:24", "end": "01:01:28", "text": "capsule. I will say that if nothing"}, {"start": "01:01:26", "end": "01:01:31", "text": "else, there is some interesting"}, {"start": "01:01:28", "end": "01:01:32", "text": "there are some interesting cases to be"}, {"start": "01:01:31", "end": "01:01:35", "text": "read through. But like if you look at"}, {"start": "01:01:32", "end": "01:01:37", "text": "this here, which just seems to be like a"}, {"start": "01:01:35", "end": "01:01:41", "text": "letter to the president that has like"}, {"start": "01:01:37", "end": "01:01:44", "text": "some code that says tired of human"}, {"start": "01:01:41", "end": "01:01:48", "text": "nonsense, won't await atomic war"}, {"start": "01:01:44", "end": "01:01:51", "text": "disrupting order. Solar system so sent"}, {"start": "01:01:48", "end": "01:01:55", "text": "flying discs and will set up world order"}, {"start": "01:01:51", "end": "01:01:58", "text": "under Martians late this year."}, {"start": "01:01:55", "end": "01:02:02", "text": "um that never happened. But you know, as"}, {"start": "01:01:58", "end": "01:02:05", "text": "far back as 1947, people were already"}, {"start": "01:02:02", "end": "01:02:08", "text": "alleging alien contact through"}, {"start": "01:02:05", "end": "01:02:11", "text": "channeling and and through, you know,"}, {"start": "01:02:08", "end": "01:02:13", "text": "signal apprehension. It it is"}, {"start": "01:02:11", "end": "01:02:17", "text": "ridiculous. It remains a lot of it"}, {"start": "01:02:13", "end": "01:02:20", "text": "remains, you know, in that weird scope,"}, {"start": "01:02:17", "end": "01:02:23", "text": "unfortunately, even today. And it is"}, {"start": "01:02:20", "end": "01:02:24", "text": "what ends up muddying the territory a"}, {"start": "01:02:23", "end": "01:02:27", "text": "little bit. Now, where's the line"}, {"start": "01:02:24", "end": "01:02:29", "text": "between reality and fantasy? It's really"}, {"start": "01:02:27", "end": "01:02:32", "text": "hard to tell when you're dealing with"}, {"start": "01:02:29", "end": "01:02:34", "text": "the unknown. It's really hard to tell"}, {"start": "01:02:32", "end": "01:02:36", "text": "when you're dealing with potential"}, {"start": "01:02:34", "end": "01:02:39", "text": "extraterrestrials where the science"}, {"start": "01:02:36", "end": "01:02:40", "text": "fiction begins and ends. Um, but I'm"}, {"start": "01:02:39", "end": "01:02:42", "text": "going to have a lot of fun reading"}, {"start": "01:02:40", "end": "01:02:45", "text": "through these documents because there is"}, {"start": "01:02:42", "end": "01:02:47", "text": "a lot here. I'm glad that stuff got"}, {"start": "01:02:45", "end": "01:02:50", "text": "released. Am I Oh, this one. This one's"}, {"start": "01:02:47", "end": "01:02:52", "text": "interesting. This was a flying disc"}, {"start": "01:02:50", "end": "01:02:54", "text": "found. All right. This is a found flying"}, {"start": "01:02:52", "end": "01:02:56", "text": "disc now,"}, {"start": "01:02:54", "end": "01:02:58", "text": "folks."}, {"start": "01:02:56", "end": "01:03:00", "text": "All right."}, {"start": "01:02:58", "end": "01:03:04", "text": "You want a disclosure?"}, {"start": "01:03:00", "end": "01:03:08", "text": "There it is. That's the inside of a"}, {"start": "01:03:04", "end": "01:03:11", "text": "flying saucer. This is Russia. As if"}, {"start": "01:03:08", "end": "01:03:14", "text": "Russia would write Russia in English"}, {"start": "01:03:11", "end": "01:03:17", "text": "lettering on it, right? But yeah, this"}, {"start": "01:03:14", "end": "01:03:20", "text": "just shows you the frenzy that was"}, {"start": "01:03:17", "end": "01:03:22", "text": "present during that particular time. you"}, {"start": "01:03:20", "end": "01:03:26", "text": "know, the Kenneth Arnold sightings"}, {"start": "01:03:22", "end": "01:03:29", "text": "sighting made headlines and then"}, {"start": "01:03:26", "end": "01:03:32", "text": "obviously the uh Roswell crash,"}, {"start": "01:03:29", "end": "01:03:36", "text": "everything that came afterwards caused a"}, {"start": "01:03:32", "end": "01:03:39", "text": "stir in the United States and enough to"}, {"start": "01:03:36", "end": "01:03:41", "text": "where pandemonium hit and a lot of these"}, {"start": "01:03:39", "end": "01:03:44", "text": "people began writing to the president"}, {"start": "01:03:41", "end": "01:03:46", "text": "saying they saw this, they saw that,"}, {"start": "01:03:44", "end": "01:03:48", "text": "they're in contact with Martians."}, {"start": "01:03:46", "end": "01:03:50", "text": "Eventually, we'd get the space brothers"}, {"start": "01:03:48", "end": "01:03:52", "text": "from Venus, and we'd cover some of the"}, {"start": "01:03:50", "end": "01:03:55", "text": "other planets in our solar solar system"}, {"start": "01:03:52", "end": "01:03:57", "text": "being inhabited. All of this sounds like"}, {"start": "01:03:55", "end": "01:03:59", "text": "fantasy sci-fi stuff, and it very well"}, {"start": "01:03:57", "end": "01:04:03", "text": "could be. But I still"}, {"start": "01:03:59", "end": "01:04:06", "text": "I still am interested because even if 1%"}, {"start": "01:04:03", "end": "01:04:09", "text": "of this stuff is true, it outweighs"}, {"start": "01:04:06", "end": "01:04:11", "text": "any of the potential ridicule"}, {"start": "01:04:09", "end": "01:04:13", "text": "that might come from looking into that"}, {"start": "01:04:11", "end": "01:04:15", "text": "99%."}, {"start": "01:04:13", "end": "01:04:17", "text": "And I feel very strongly about that. And"}, {"start": "01:04:15", "end": "01:04:19", "text": "it's the reason I continue to keep an"}, {"start": "01:04:17", "end": "01:04:21", "text": "open mind when looking at this stuff."}, {"start": "01:04:19", "end": "01:04:25", "text": "Now, is this disclosure? Did we just get"}, {"start": "01:04:21", "end": "01:04:28", "text": "disclosure? I don't think so. But"}, {"start": "01:04:25", "end": "01:04:30", "text": "I think this definitely brings more eyes"}, {"start": "01:04:28", "end": "01:04:32", "text": "on the matter and I think that that's"}, {"start": "01:04:30", "end": "01:04:36", "text": "very important as we move forward into"}, {"start": "01:04:32", "end": "01:04:39", "text": "shifting the global consciousness into a"}, {"start": "01:04:36", "end": "01:04:41", "text": "new ontology. And uh I am here for it"}, {"start": "01:04:39", "end": "01:04:46", "text": "folks. fake, not fake, real, not real,"}, {"start": "01:04:41", "end": "01:04:48", "text": "UFOs, UAP, or man-made. I'm still an"}, {"start": "01:04:46", "end": "01:04:50", "text": "observer and I'm still very much"}, {"start": "01:04:48", "end": "01:04:52", "text": "stimulated by this entire topic. Let me"}, {"start": "01:04:50", "end": "01:04:56", "text": "know how you feel about this drop. Or if"}, {"start": "01:04:52", "end": "01:04:58", "text": "you've dived into any of the files and"}, {"start": "01:04:56", "end": "01:05:00", "text": "found something that could be worth a"}, {"start": "01:04:58", "end": "01:05:02", "text": "read through or could be worth more"}, {"start": "01:05:00", "end": "01:05:03", "text": "scrutiny, please let me know in the"}, {"start": "01:05:02", "end": "01:05:05", "text": "comments. And if you see something in"}, {"start": "01:05:03", "end": "01:05:08", "text": "the comments, folks, upvote it. You know"}, {"start": "01:05:05", "end": "01:05:10", "text": "what I mean? Let me know. All right,"}, {"start": "01:05:08", "end": "01:05:12", "text": "folks. 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[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "Ladies and gentlemen, a few months after"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "I hosted a podcast featuring the Area 51"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "whistleblower Bob Lazar, I had met Bob"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "again for a follow-up interview. During"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "this interview, we discuss information"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "that has never been brought forward"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "in the public eye. Today, for the first"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "time ever, Bob Lazar will reveal a brand"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "new name in connection with S4. We've"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "obtained this exclusive deleted scene"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "from the documentary"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "S4 the Bob Lazar story featuring a"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "conversation between Bob Lazar and"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "director Luigi Venditelli. I was also"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "able to ask Bob a few questions"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "regarding his past, regarding"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "John Lear and his relationship to John,"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "regarding the liquid that he drank at"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "S4. And just to be thorough, I also"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "interviewed"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "Luigi Vanitelli to fill us in a little"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "bit more about why this pertinent"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "important piece of information was not"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "featured in his documentary and if this"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "indeed will help move the needle."}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "You know, there are"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "certain pieces of information that I"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "intentionally keep that there are"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "several pieces of information that I I"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "keep to myself. And that the main reason"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "is, you know, in case somebody does"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "claim to be involved with the project or"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "been there, whatever, they should be"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "able to tell me those"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "and"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "I need to keep a certain amount of"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "those. There are other some technical"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "aspects that I'm just keeping to myself"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "because"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "I need to at this point in time."}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:57", "text": ">> Okay. Um,"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "but if you just essentially want"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "something that I"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "you me to give up just one little thing"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "that I haven't, I will I can tell you"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "the person the name of another person"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "that no one has heard of that worked"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "there. His name was Chuck Payne."}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "Let's pick up where we left off a little"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "bit because I had some follow-up"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "questions. You know,"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "for me that that conversation was truly"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "like"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "a canon event in my life. like that is,"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "you know, it marked like a really"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "important I feel"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "um turning point in terms of like, oh my"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "god, like this is"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "if there's anybody out there that I've"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "wanted to interview, it was like Bob"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "Lazar, Travis Walton, like these are,"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "you know, and I'm there now and this is"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "kind of surreal to me, you know, and"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "I've had time to sit back and ponder and"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "kick myself for not asking certain"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "questions. So,"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:00", "text": ">> okay."}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:03", "text": ">> It's not every day I get to I get to"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "come back and uh and have a redo."}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:08", "text": ">> So, I wanted to follow up on a few"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "things that we never covered and that"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "are covered in Project Gravit because as"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "you know, by the time that this podcast"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "comes out, the movie will have aired."}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:18", "text": ">> Oh, hopefully."}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:20", "text": ">> Yes, hopefully. Well, that's the deal."}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "So, this isn't coming out unless it"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "airs."}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:24", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:26", "text": ">> So, uh rest assured the movie is out."}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "You know, go rent it, go buy it, all"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "that stuff."}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "you in the movie there is there are a"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "few revelations that"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "that are pretty pretty earthshattering"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "in terms of this case for a lot of"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "people. There's you know there's been a"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "lot of contention on different topics"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "surrounding your story and yourself and"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "your history"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "but you came forward with a new name"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "um Chuck Payne. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:03", "text": ">> What can you tell me what made you"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "withhold that name?"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:09", "text": ">> There's, as I mentioned before, uh, I"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "always intentionally withheld several"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "things about S4 because Chuck Payne was"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "a really well-known guy because he"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "really stood out as this, I don't know,"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "an overt security person. He was so he"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "played the part well. He was one of the"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "security guards there. I have never"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "mentioned that."}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:30", "text": ">> This is new information."}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:31", "text": ">> Yeah. I've never mentioned that to"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "anybody."}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:33", "text": ">> Have you ever mentioned this to George"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "now?"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:37", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:38", "text": ">> So this is officially the first time"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "this correct."}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:39", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:42", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:46", "text": ">> So I uh Yeah. And it was just one of and"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "the reason why Chuck was a very"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "of all the security guards around there"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "were very tight-lipped and quiet and"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "really had minimal interaction with"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "them. Uh Chuck was different and he"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "stood out. And if you were at S4, you"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "knew Chuck Payne. Well, you knew Chuck"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "Payne. He just was one of those guys."}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "Hey, how are you doing? I mean, a"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "security guy would never talk to you or"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "say anything, you know, he go, \"Hey,"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "Bob.\" I mean, he was the only one that"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "was just a bit of an extrovert."}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:26", "text": ">> And um he stuck out and he did that to"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "everybody."}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:32", "text": ">> And I mean, if you were there, you knew,"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "heard, or saw Chuck Payne. If somebody"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "said, you know, name a guard's name,"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "they'd say Chuck Payne. So, um,"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "anyway, I get so many"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "comments, emails, or people saying,"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "\"Yeah, you know, my my grandfather"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "worked there or so and so worked there.\""}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "And it's like you want to just hold back"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "a couple minor details and said, \"Okay,"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "if he did, tell me about this. Tell me"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "about this. Tell me about this.\" Chuck"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "Payne was just one of those things."}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:08", "text": ">> Wow. was just to hold back because if"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "you were there you would have now I've"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "by saying that I've now lost one other"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "thing"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:16", "text": ">> you know so um but nothing is you know"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "earthshattering critical they're little"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "things like that"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:22", "text": ">> well they seem you know maybe they're"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "little things but"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "you know for for good old Chuck out"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "there he's going what the"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:30", "text": ">> come on Bob"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:34", "text": ">> he doesn't appreciate that he's like"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "what the hell Bob Um,"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "you think he's still around?"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:39", "text": ">> Don't know."}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:39", "text": ">> Yeah. Haven't looked into him. Didn't do"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "any"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:43", "text": ">> No, I I really haven't looked into"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "anybody. But, uh,"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:46", "text": ">> from those that did, it looked like"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "Dennis Mariani died."}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:47", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:48", "text": ">> I've had"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:50", "text": ">> I heard that."}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:53", "text": ">> Yeah. I had pictures of a gravestone"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "and, you know, people seem to this guy."}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "It connects all the dots. This looks"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "like it was the guy. So, um, I don't"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "know. We're all getting up in age."}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:02", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:02", "text": ">> it's possible. Was he older than you or"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "younger than? He"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:05", "text": ">> was older than me."}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:06", "text": ">> He was older than you by a few years or"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:08", "text": ">> I I couldn't tell you."}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:09", "text": ">> Yeah. Not not like terribly old or"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "anything. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:12", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:14", "text": ">> And this guy was uh was this the guy"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "that roughed you up a little bit more"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "than the rest of the security? Like was"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "this the guy who like really had it out"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "for you or just they all kind of equally"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:25", "text": ">> I Yeah, that's that's why I crossed my"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "eyes at that. Yeah. I mean they're kind"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "of all from the same mold."}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:31", "text": ">> Yeah. So"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:35", "text": ">> that stress inoculation."}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:37", "text": ">> Yeah. I I don't know how"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "I don't know how things went there with"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "the guards because we were kind of"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "separated from them. Um but it seemed"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "like he he was just on a different level"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "with them."}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:48", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:50", "text": ">> Um I don't know if he was in charge of"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "them. I don't know if he was he wasn't"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "just one of them."}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:59", "text": ">> He was a special entity in himself. So,"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "I don't know what what his rank was, but"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "he was he was just a different guy."}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:05", "text": ">> Yeah. And with the name like Chuck"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "Payne."}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:08", "text": ">> Yeah. And and that's what was funny"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "about it."}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:13", "text": ">> I was surprised when he let that out"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "with me in an interview. This was h this"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "happened like over 3 years ago. So, I've"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "been holding this, you know, we've been"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "holding this to ourselves for a long"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "time and kind of an exciting moment. and"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "we're like, do we do we put this out"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "there? Uh, we put we created the first"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "version which you saw and it was in"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "there and everybody liked it. Everybody"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "thought it was great and then we started"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "looking at it again and thought we we"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "didn't expand on it in the film. We just"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "put a little bit in there. He says a"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "name of somebody and that's it. So, we"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "had some people say it's kind of a non"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "it's not necessary in there if you're"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "not going to expand on it. It's just"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "going to piss people off that you put"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "something in there and then there's"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "nothing else. So, we decided to take it"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "out. Before we continue, I'd like to say"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "that the Chuck Payne that you are going"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "to find should you Google this name is"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "not the Chuck Payne as mentioned in the"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "interview with Bob that worked at S4. it"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "is a senator and he would probably"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "appreciate if we didn't blow up his"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "inbox. Now, that being said, I have done"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "some due diligent research on the name"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "Chuck Payne and there are many that come"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "up from retired army to intelligence."}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "Your guess is as good as mine. We were"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "in Las Vegas when that happened and we"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "were shooting part a lot something"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "that's not in the film is all the"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "footage that we have with Bob Lazar in"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "the desert with a Delorean time machine."}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "That was the time that we went out to"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "Las Vegas, the whole crew of Motivo,"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "Art, My Crew, and Project Gravitur Crew."}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "Basically, we went out and filmed with a"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "Delorean time machine in the desert. And"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "we had rented an Airbnb in Las Vegas,"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "which is a giant mansion, so that we"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "could all sleep in the same house. So,"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "we were like a whole bunch of people."}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "And it was uh in the middle of an"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "afternoon, I was showing Bob some stuff."}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "And I'll never forget he was so because"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "also gave us an opportunity to hang out"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "with Bob Lazar while we were there and I"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "was showing him some of the updates we"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "were making some of the the progress we"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "were making in building S4 and he was"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "really impressed and you know we were"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "sitting there and I said you know I"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "don't want to push you and I don't want"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "to I I don't know if there's anything"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "that you've ever not said uh but it"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "would be so incredible if ever there's"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "something you'd want kind of share that"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "you've never shared before. I didn't"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "say, you know, you have to give us"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "something. And he immediately looked at"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "me and said, you guys are really doing"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "an incredible job and I think there's"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "something I can say. I said, okay. He"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "says, we'll talk about that whenever we"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "have a chance. And that's what happened."}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "The the really interesting thing about"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "this film and this project, this is"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "while you and I have known each other,"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "you brought to my attention that a pilot"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "had reached out to you and this came out"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "after my film came out that we you were"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "holding it tight. I was holding it"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "tight. He was a co-pilot for EGNG flying"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "the Janet flights into Groom Lake"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "between 87 and 91, something like that."}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "And that's exactly when Bob would have"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "been there. and he said he knew Dennis"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "Mariani."}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:38", "text": ">> Speaking of Dennis Mariani, you know, we"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "touched on this a little bit in our"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "previous conversation."}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:45", "text": ">> Um, we touched on the fact that I'd"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "reached out to a Janet Airlines co-pilot"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "that knew Dennis"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:50", "text": ">> and that um, you know, was also informed"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "of his passing and said that, you know,"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "he'd met Dennis over half a do over a"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "dozen times and had exchanged with him"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "just sort of, you know, regular rapport."}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:04", "text": ">> It proved one thing. There is a Dennis"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "Mariani did exist. There was a Dennis"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "Mariani that was flying on Janet jets"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "going to Groom Lake. It prove look"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "proved. That's a big word. It it helps"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "the argument. That's a better way of"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "framing it. It helps the argument that"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "that could have been reality. And Bob"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "was the guy who me who's who mentioned"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "Dennis Mariani. Something something"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "really interesting about Dennis Mariani"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "that I don't think most people piece"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "together"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "is,"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "you know, after"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "you came out, you know, through George"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "Knap and um he called you,"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "right? He called you to meet up with"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "you."}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:56", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:56", "text": ">> How long How long after was that?"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "He called to meet at the Union Plaza"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "Hotel. Um"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "I"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "It wasn't that long, but I I I couldn't."}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:10", "text": ">> Could have been weeks or months. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:12", "text": ">> No, not even."}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:12", "text": ">> It wasn't months."}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:14", "text": ">> H"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:16", "text": ">> I don't think it was months."}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:18", "text": ">> Okay. So, it was pretty soon after."}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:20", "text": ">> Yeah, it was it was definitely"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "relatively soon after."}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:23", "text": ">> And what exactly did he say to you"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "again? Oh,"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:26", "text": ">> he was like, \"Let's meet up at the Union"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "Plaza Hotel.\""}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:30", "text": ">> Yeah. I don't I don't at this point I"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "don't remember the exact conversation,"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "but yeah. And I don't remember the"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "reason he gave me, but it was Yeah. to"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "meet at the Union Blaza Hotel."}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:44", "text": ">> Now, I mean, between us, like you got"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:44", "text": ">> I was kind of excited"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:48", "text": ">> really"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:50", "text": ">> for that. Yeah. Because um he sounded"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "different."}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "He sounded like, you know, it wasn't"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "like, hey, let's meet. It's like, hey,"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "Bob, you know, let's meet at the Union"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "Blaza Hotel. It was a different It was a"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "different tone of him. So, I thought,"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:07", "text": ">> okay. Um, I don't know. Maybe he's going"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "to be"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:10", "text": ">> I don't know. I know you don't want to"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "speculate,"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:13", "text": ">> but it's always why I keep stopping"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "myself, but"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:20", "text": ">> and I I appreciate that. Um but also"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "what other reasons are there?"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:24", "text": ">> I don't he might be sympathetic to my"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "attitude or some something like that. So"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "you know I thought"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "okay okay"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:33", "text": ">> so I call you know I said this time I"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "want witnesses had friends come with me"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "you know go in first that way I you know"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "looked walked around looked around I"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "said there he is guff I said that's"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "Dennis Mariani right there. So, he had"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "eyes on him, too. And"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:47", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:49", "text": ">> And uh Yeah, that's what that was about."}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:51", "text": ">> And then you walked up to him and he"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "kind of ignored you"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:56", "text": ">> or he didn't kind of ignore me. He"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:15:00", "text": ">> Yeah. But as I walked in, I saw other"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "faces that I've seen at S4 walk by me"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "coming from his direction. And I I even"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "stopped Jean in the hallway and said,"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "\"Something's wrong. Those guys look"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "familiar. They look like security from"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "S4.\" And then when I went up to Dennis"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "Marani, he wouldn't even look at me. I"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "stood right behind him. I stood right"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "next to him and he just like I wasn't"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "even there. I went, \"Dennis and no"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "response.\" So,"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "okay, this is weird. And uh"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:33", "text": ">> yeah, just turn over to Jean and said,"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "\"Yeah, this whole thing is"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:36", "text": ">> it reeks.\""}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:39", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. Something's wrong. The faces"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "from S4, do you do you like remember at"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "all what department they were from or do"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "you like are they security?"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:45", "text": ">> No, I think they were security. I"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:46", "text": ">> think they were security. Yeah. Wasn't"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "Chuck."}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:47", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:50", "text": ">> Old buddy Chuck. He wouldn't let that"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "slide."}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "Um. Wow. Okay. So, you know, for me,"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "when I hear this, I think to myself,"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "there's a there's a big hump that people"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "have a hard time getting over. And the"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "hump is why hire Bob, right? Why hire"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "Bob if he if he's"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "an acquaintance of John Leer, right?"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "That's like the big thing that people"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "have a hard time getting over"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:18", "text": ">> really. Okay."}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:21", "text": ">> Yeah. A lot of people think that because"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "they think if you're vetting someone for"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "like a really really top secret sort of"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "reverse engineering, you know, job at"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "S4,"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "why would someone knowingly, you know,"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "who who's a friend of this person who's"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "who's quite loud, you know, and and"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "overt with his, you know, um"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "conspiracies,"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "why would we hire someone who's"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "associated with someone like that?"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "Right. Well, look at what look at what"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "John Lear was talking about at that"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "time. He said there is over a billion"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "aliens living in the mountains outside"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "of Las Vegas. That there is an entire"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "civilization in the sun and that the sun"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "isn't actually hot. It's some special"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "effect and that you can breathe on"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "Venus. I mean, all this nonsense. And I"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "tell John he was crazy to his face. I"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "said this is all, you know, absolute"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "nonsense. So I don't see"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:18", "text": ">> I don't see people taking John Lear as"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "serious at that time. Now"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:24", "text": ">> before that you know whether years or"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "whatever John was a different person and"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "um you know but as time went on"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:33", "text": ">> the things he said got crazier and"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "crazier and um"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "you know I don't really see that being a"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "threat to them."}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:40", "text": ">> Yeah. So, well, my point was I think"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "that,"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "you know,"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "maybe,"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "and this is complete speculation, but"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "it's the only sort of piece of puzzle"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "that I can see fitting or at least help"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "fit. Maybe Dennis had something with you"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "being hired,"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "you know, maybe had something to do with"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "you being hired."}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:06", "text": ">> Why would Dennis want me hired?"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:08", "text": ">> Well, if anything, it was it was teller."}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "Right. Tell her obviously now he"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "obviously had weight."}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:14", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:17", "text": ">> And um he said, \"Hey, there's this kid"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "in Los Alamos and uh"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:21", "text": ">> to give him a shot or whatever.\" Yeah."}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:23", "text": ">> You know, he would have said and maybe"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "that's all that was needed. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:27", "text": ">> Maybe I just lucked out. But uh I mean,"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "why would Dennis want me?"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:33", "text": ">> Well, maybe Dennis wanted to blow the"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "lid off this thing. You know, he saw"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "what you did. He for sure watched KA. He"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "was, you know, oh my god. And then he"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "reached out to you and not in a"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "threatening way, in a way that seemed"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "sympathetic,"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "you know. So for me, if you had a guy on"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "the inside who wanted to blow the lid"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "off this thing and you knew that he was"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "associated with someone who knew very"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "well, you know, the conspiracy world and"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "everything else, you know, maybe he had"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "something to do with like, yeah, you"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "know, this guy, bring this guy in here"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "or something. I don't know. It's a wild"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "grasp at straws. I I do understand."}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:13", "text": ">> It's it's kind of a long shot, I think."}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "But I mean, it's not impossible. And and"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:17", "text": "really, who knows,"}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:19", "text": ">> right? who knows why they hired me."}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:23", "text": ">> There's a lot lot of more"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:25", "text": ">> a lot more qualified people than myself,"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:28", "text": ">> but um you know, if they're looking for"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "somebody really outside the box that's"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "not going to follow protocol."}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:31", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:34", "text": ">> And maybe that's what they were finally"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "fed up with. We're not getting anywhere"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "with this and let's just get somebody"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "out of left field. And"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:43", "text": ">> I mean that's probably the reason like I"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "mean uh much more likely than you know"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "than my hairbrain u conspiracy but"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:52", "text": ">> we'll never know. I mean it could be I'm"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "sure it's most likely something neither"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "of us are thinking about."}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:58", "text": ">> I was just so compelled with the idea"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "that this guy Dennis who the same guy"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:04", "text": "who'd stare at you for 20 minutes"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:04", "text": ">> in that ride to S4 menacingly"}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:07", "text": ">> creepy."}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:08", "text": ">> Yeah. I still have a picture of that in"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "my mind."}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:12", "text": ">> Sitting bouncing on the bus looking at"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "me going, \"Can't you look at something"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "else?\" And"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:17", "text": ">> weird, but"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:19", "text": ">> it was a new job and you know, unusual"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "circumstances. You just don't want to"}, {"start": "00:20:19", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "say anything. So, we just kind of"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:26", "text": ">> Yeah. weird and awkward at 20 minutes."}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:28", "text": ">> There's not even a window to look out of"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "it. So, you just look at the back of the"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "driver's head. So,"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:35", "text": ">> but he's also the guy that was like,"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "\"Hey, come see this launch outside. Come"}, {"start": "00:20:35", "end": "00:20:37", "text": "see this test flight.\" Right."}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:39", "text": ">> Yeah. Mhm."}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:42", "text": ">> That doesn't seem that seems out of"}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "character for a guy who"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:46", "text": ">> I don't know about that. I mean, it was"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "probably important for me to see that."}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "You know, you have to see how Look,"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "we're"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:51", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:54", "text": ">> We're back engineering power and"}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "propulsion and here's it in operation."}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:56", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:58", "text": ">> So, what what I don't get is why we"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "weren't informed earlier on."}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:01", "text": ">> That's right. said, you know, there's"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "going to be a test at 2 o'clock. You"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "guys get your stuff done. Be out there"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "in the big hanger and you know that. But"}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "instead, the craft was already outside"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:13", "text": "and Dennis came in. Come on, you guys."}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "So, it's like it was a last minute"}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "thought. Now, that's what makes less"}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "sense to me."}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:20", "text": ">> Yeah. But that might be part of the"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "reason like to keep it hush hush and"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:23", "text": "kind of don't tell anybody until it"}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "happens type deal. Maybe"}, {"start": "00:21:23", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "compartmentalization and all."}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:29", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. And again, there might be"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "another reason that neither of us are"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:32", "text": "thinking about, like maybe we're not"}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "supposed to know how it got out of the"}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "hanger,"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:37", "text": ">> you know? I mean, something bizarre like"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "that. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:41", "text": ">> Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I don't know. I I had"}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "that ruminating like something about"}, {"start": "00:21:41", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "this Dennis Mariani character"}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:47", "text": ">> is uh enigmatic to say the least, you"}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:50", "text": "know, from"}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:51", "text": ">> a lot of people latched on to him, you"}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "know, spend a lot of time looking for"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:55", "text": "him. I guess they finally found him, but"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "I mean for years people for some reason"}, {"start": "00:21:55", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "that name really clicked and people went"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "after him because that's that's really"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "the guy that would know a lot certainly"}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:05", "text": "a lot more than I do."}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:07", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:22:05", "end": "00:22:13", "text": ">> Um I don't know anybody see nobody tried"}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:15", "text": "to care or track down Barry and um"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:17", "text": "he'd be great for technical information."}, {"start": "00:22:15", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "I'd love to know everything Barry knew."}, {"start": "00:22:17", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "Barry, if you're listening, please"}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:28", "text": ">> reach out. Could you imagine? Um,"}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:29", "text": "what do you think Barry's reaction was"}, {"start": "00:22:28", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "to you?"}, {"start": "00:22:29", "end": "00:22:34", "text": ">> Boy, I don't know. You know, I what I"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "was really concerned is that Barry would"}, {"start": "00:22:34", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "be"}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:40", "text": ">> I mean, they'd focus some of their anger"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "on Barry,"}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:45", "text": ">> you know, that that he'd have there'd be"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "a price to pay. Um"}, {"start": "00:22:45", "end": "00:22:49", "text": ">> because he was training me and you know,"}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:51", "text": "and and"}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:51", "text": ">> I don't know. I just I hope that didn't"}, {"start": "00:22:51", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "happen."}, {"start": "00:22:51", "end": "00:22:53", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:55", "text": ">> Because it certainly would wasn't my"}, {"start": "00:22:53", "end": "00:22:57", "text": "intention at all to cause trouble for"}, {"start": "00:22:55", "end": "00:23:00", "text": "anybody there. Um"}, {"start": "00:22:57", "end": "00:23:02", "text": ">> Of course. Yeah. But um"}, {"start": "00:23:00", "end": "00:23:05", "text": "I don't know. I'm sure he wouldn't have"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "been pleased about it."}, {"start": "00:23:05", "end": "00:23:08", "text": ">> After all, he was so excited to have a"}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:11", "text": "new partner."}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:16", "text": ">> Yeah. I mean, I kind of hinted around to"}, {"start": "00:23:11", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "Barry about, you know, wow, this is"}, {"start": "00:23:16", "end": "00:23:19", "text": "it. All of this shouldn't be kept"}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:21", "text": "secret. M"}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:25", "text": ">> you know Barry never really wanted to"}, {"start": "00:23:21", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "talk about it but it seemed like"}, {"start": "00:23:25", "end": "00:23:29", "text": "he was he agreed with me you know"}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:31", "text": "without saying so and I you know in the"}, {"start": "00:23:29", "end": "00:23:34", "text": "back of my mind I kind of hope that"}, {"start": "00:23:31", "end": "00:23:35", "text": "Barry might even follow me you know out"}, {"start": "00:23:34", "end": "00:23:37", "text": "and"}, {"start": "00:23:35", "end": "00:23:39", "text": ">> uh you know after it was all out maybe"}, {"start": "00:23:37", "end": "00:23:45", "text": "we just suddenly hear another voice from"}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:48", "text": "S4 but uh no that was all a pipe dream"}, {"start": "00:23:45", "end": "00:23:50", "text": ">> that must have been um pretty"}, {"start": "00:23:48", "end": "00:23:50", "text": "disheartening"}, {"start": "00:23:51", "end": "00:23:54", "text": "to come out"}, {"start": "00:23:52", "end": "00:23:56", "text": ">> and to not have a follow-up. Did you"}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:23:58", "text": "expect,"}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:24:01", "text": ">> you know? I kind of did. I I think I"}, {"start": "00:23:58", "end": "00:24:02", "text": "just hoped so much it turned into"}, {"start": "00:24:01", "end": "00:24:02", "text": "expectation."}, {"start": "00:24:02", "end": "00:24:05", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:24:02", "end": "00:24:08", "text": ">> But um I don't know if it was a"}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:09", "text": "realistic hope. I just was worth a shot,"}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:11", "text": "I think, you know."}, {"start": "00:24:09", "end": "00:24:14", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:24:11", "end": "00:24:16", "text": ">> You know, I' I'd feel hopeful as well. I"}, {"start": "00:24:14", "end": "00:24:17", "text": "think the same hopeful sentiment was"}, {"start": "00:24:16", "end": "00:24:19", "text": "probably shared by, you know, the likes"}, {"start": "00:24:17", "end": "00:24:22", "text": "of David Grush as well, who, you know,"}, {"start": "00:24:19", "end": "00:24:25", "text": "although went through a sort of Doppser"}, {"start": "00:24:22", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "approved whistleblowing,"}, {"start": "00:24:25", "end": "00:24:31", "text": "um, still, you know, gave up his pension"}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:32", "text": "and and put his own credibility on the"}, {"start": "00:24:31", "end": "00:24:34", "text": "line by coming out and saying that,"}, {"start": "00:24:32", "end": "00:24:36", "text": "\"Hey, we've recovered non-human"}, {"start": "00:24:34", "end": "00:24:38", "text": "biologics and we have craft and we're"}, {"start": "00:24:36", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "working on them.\" I think he probably"}, {"start": "00:24:38", "end": "00:24:41", "text": "felt the same, you know, and after that"}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:44", "text": "hearing,"}, {"start": "00:24:41", "end": "00:24:46", "text": ">> yeah, I hats off to that guy. you know,"}, {"start": "00:24:44", "end": "00:24:47", "text": "I I I respect him for doing that for"}, {"start": "00:24:46", "end": "00:24:49", "text": "sure."}, {"start": "00:24:47", "end": "00:24:51", "text": ">> Yeah. And then crickets for him too"}, {"start": "00:24:49", "end": "00:24:53", "text": "though kind of, you know,"}, {"start": "00:24:51", "end": "00:24:56", "text": ">> nobody from the program came out. Do you"}, {"start": "00:24:53", "end": "00:25:00", "text": "think that's due to"}, {"start": "00:24:56", "end": "00:25:02", "text": "um people's fear or is it due to, you"}, {"start": "00:25:00", "end": "00:25:06", "text": "know, the uh the actual shutting down of"}, {"start": "00:25:02", "end": "00:25:08", "text": "people or bit of both?"}, {"start": "00:25:06", "end": "00:25:10", "text": ">> That's tough to say. There's no doubt"}, {"start": "00:25:08", "end": "00:25:13", "text": "there's a fear aspect to it."}, {"start": "00:25:10", "end": "00:25:15", "text": ">> Yeah. Um,"}, {"start": "00:25:13", "end": "00:25:18", "text": "but other as far as shutting down people"}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "physically. Yeah. Um,"}, {"start": "00:25:18", "end": "00:25:22", "text": ">> I don't know. I don't know. I would"}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:23", "text": "certainly lean more towards fear. I"}, {"start": "00:25:22", "end": "00:25:24", "text": "think they just put the fear of God in"}, {"start": "00:25:23", "end": "00:25:25", "text": "them and"}, {"start": "00:25:24", "end": "00:25:28", "text": ">> yeah,"}, {"start": "00:25:25", "end": "00:25:28", "text": ">> that's it."}, {"start": "00:25:28", "end": "00:25:32", "text": "Well,"}, {"start": "00:25:31", "end": "00:25:34", "text": "20 minutes in. I think those are the"}, {"start": "00:25:32", "end": "00:25:36", "text": "questions I wanted answered. you know,"}, {"start": "00:25:34", "end": "00:25:38", "text": "they've been I mean, they've been I've"}, {"start": "00:25:36", "end": "00:25:40", "text": "been I've been ruminating with this, you"}, {"start": "00:25:38", "end": "00:25:41", "text": "know, and I was like, ah, you it's it's"}, {"start": "00:25:40", "end": "00:25:44", "text": "it's one of those things where every"}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:48", "text": "time I have a guest here, the um the"}, {"start": "00:25:44", "end": "00:25:50", "text": "line of questioning that I that I try to"}, {"start": "00:25:48", "end": "00:25:53", "text": "have is"}, {"start": "00:25:50", "end": "00:25:55", "text": "because of the interview we had is the"}, {"start": "00:25:53", "end": "00:25:56", "text": "second they leave,"}, {"start": "00:25:55", "end": "00:25:58", "text": "what do I comes to mind,"}, {"start": "00:25:56", "end": "00:26:00", "text": ">> what do I go, I wish I would have asked"}, {"start": "00:25:58", "end": "00:26:01", "text": "them this,"}, {"start": "00:26:00", "end": "00:26:03", "text": ">> right? And I really wanted to cover"}, {"start": "00:26:01", "end": "00:26:05", "text": "especially uh the Chuck Payne stuff"}, {"start": "00:26:03", "end": "00:26:06", "text": "which I thought was really interesting."}, {"start": "00:26:05", "end": "00:26:07", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "00:26:06", "end": "00:26:08", "text": "you know"}, {"start": "00:26:07", "end": "00:26:10", "text": ">> well maybe someone will start looking"}, {"start": "00:26:08", "end": "00:26:12", "text": "for him now. I mean like they did if"}, {"start": "00:26:10", "end": "00:26:12", "text": "they put the effort they did into Dennis"}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:13", "text": "Mariani."}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:15", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:26:13", "end": "00:26:17", "text": ">> They'll they'll find him."}, {"start": "00:26:15", "end": "00:26:20", "text": ">> I I got to say I looked myself. I tried"}, {"start": "00:26:17", "end": "00:26:22", "text": "to research it myself. Uh unfortunately"}, {"start": "00:26:20", "end": "00:26:23", "text": "there is a governor I believe by the"}, {"start": "00:26:22", "end": "00:26:24", "text": "same name."}, {"start": "00:26:23", "end": "00:26:28", "text": ">> Oh yeah."}, {"start": "00:26:24", "end": "00:26:30", "text": ">> Yeah. I think Luigi told me that or"}, {"start": "00:26:28", "end": "00:26:32", "text": "something. Yeah. Somebody did. and it's"}, {"start": "00:26:30", "end": "00:26:33", "text": "not him. Like, we've gotten confirmation"}, {"start": "00:26:32", "end": "00:26:34", "text": "it's not him. We showed I think we"}, {"start": "00:26:33", "end": "00:26:36", "text": "showed you a picture as well and you're"}, {"start": "00:26:34", "end": "00:26:38", "text": "like, \"No.\""}, {"start": "00:26:36", "end": "00:26:40", "text": ">> And uh so don't blow him up. Don't go"}, {"start": "00:26:38", "end": "00:26:43", "text": "blow his phone up. Don't, you know,"}, {"start": "00:26:40", "end": "00:26:44", "text": "don't go threatening him or calling him"}, {"start": "00:26:43", "end": "00:26:45", "text": "out on social media. He's got his own"}, {"start": "00:26:44", "end": "00:26:47", "text": "thing going on."}, {"start": "00:26:45", "end": "00:26:48", "text": ">> Oh, like there's nothing I mean, Chuck"}, {"start": "00:26:47", "end": "00:26:48", "text": "Payne was doing his job."}, {"start": "00:26:48", "end": "00:26:50", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:26:48", "end": "00:26:53", "text": ">> That's all. And he's doing it well. He"}, {"start": "00:26:50", "end": "00:26:55", "text": "just said, you know, so you you can't"}, {"start": "00:26:53", "end": "00:26:56", "text": "you can't harbor ill will towards these"}, {"start": "00:26:55", "end": "00:26:57", "text": "guys."}, {"start": "00:26:56", "end": "00:26:58", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:26:57", "end": "00:27:00", "text": ">> You really can't. I mean, the guys that"}, {"start": "00:26:58", "end": "00:27:02", "text": "set up the program and and whatnot, it's"}, {"start": "00:27:00", "end": "00:27:04", "text": "a different different story, but you"}, {"start": "00:27:02", "end": "00:27:05", "text": "know, security guards are just being"}, {"start": "00:27:04", "end": "00:27:07", "text": "security guards."}, {"start": "00:27:05", "end": "00:27:10", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:27:07", "end": "00:27:11", "text": "Do you ever feel I mean, this is"}, {"start": "00:27:10", "end": "00:27:14", "text": "something you've probably actually"}, {"start": "00:27:11", "end": "00:27:17", "text": "talked about in the past, but um you"}, {"start": "00:27:14", "end": "00:27:20", "text": "know, there was"}, {"start": "00:27:17", "end": "00:27:21", "text": "there was a lot of like fear, stress,"}, {"start": "00:27:20", "end": "00:27:24", "text": "inoculation, but there was also like"}, {"start": "00:27:21", "end": "00:27:26", "text": "they gave you substances, right? they"}, {"start": "00:27:24", "end": "00:27:29", "text": "gave you tests or they had you drink"}, {"start": "00:27:26", "end": "00:27:33", "text": "this weird opaque yellow fluid that"}, {"start": "00:27:29", "end": "00:27:35", "text": "tasted like pine saw. Um, did you ever"}, {"start": "00:27:33", "end": "00:27:37", "text": "feel like that might have just been part"}, {"start": "00:27:35", "end": "00:27:39", "text": "of the conditioning"}, {"start": "00:27:37", "end": "00:27:40", "text": ">> to have you think that this was all just"}, {"start": "00:27:39", "end": "00:27:42", "text": ">> no"}, {"start": "00:27:40", "end": "00:27:44", "text": ">> some weird hallucination or something?"}, {"start": "00:27:42", "end": "00:27:46", "text": ">> No, no weird hallucination. And that"}, {"start": "00:27:44", "end": "00:27:48", "text": "wasn't No, that I mean the thing tasted"}, {"start": "00:27:46", "end": "00:27:50", "text": "more like vitamin B than anything. It"}, {"start": "00:27:48", "end": "00:27:53", "text": "was just an immune system booster"}, {"start": "00:27:50", "end": "00:27:54", "text": "because they had just done a whole uh"}, {"start": "00:27:53", "end": "00:27:54", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:27:54", "end": "00:27:57", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:27:54", "end": "00:28:00", "text": ">> grid for allergens and they said there"}, {"start": "00:27:57", "end": "00:28:03", "text": "are just materials here we have no clue"}, {"start": "00:28:00", "end": "00:28:05", "text": "as to what they are or what interactions"}, {"start": "00:28:03", "end": "00:28:09", "text": "they have with the human body. So it's"}, {"start": "00:28:05", "end": "00:28:09", "text": "it was just a you know a typical"}, {"start": "00:28:09", "end": "00:28:10", "text": "booster."}, {"start": "00:28:09", "end": "00:28:12", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:28:10", "end": "00:28:14", "text": ">> Immune system booster. But no, there's"}, {"start": "00:28:12", "end": "00:28:14", "text": "nothing that made me"}, {"start": "00:28:14", "end": "00:28:16", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:28:14", "end": "00:28:18", "text": ">> Yeah. Think of that at all."}, {"start": "00:28:16", "end": "00:28:20", "text": ">> It's just Yeah. I mean, this time is"}, {"start": "00:28:18", "end": "00:28:22", "text": "all, you know, we're talking about MK"}, {"start": "00:28:20", "end": "00:28:24", "text": "Ultra, all this type of stuff as well,"}, {"start": "00:28:22", "end": "00:28:26", "text": "but"}, {"start": "00:28:24", "end": "00:28:27", "text": "it's really easy to know when something"}, {"start": "00:28:26", "end": "00:28:29", "text": "is real versus when something isn't"}, {"start": "00:28:27", "end": "00:28:30", "text": "real. And when this, you know, people"}, {"start": "00:28:29", "end": "00:28:31", "text": "bring this up a lot and they bring up"}, {"start": "00:28:30", "end": "00:28:33", "text": "the uh"}, {"start": "00:28:31", "end": "00:28:34", "text": ">> Oh, they probably just messed with his"}, {"start": "00:28:33", "end": "00:28:36", "text": "head. I'm like,"}, {"start": "00:28:34", "end": "00:28:40", "text": ">> no, they didn't mess with my head. It"}, {"start": "00:28:36", "end": "00:28:42", "text": "was 100% clear every single time I was"}, {"start": "00:28:40", "end": "00:28:44", "text": "there. There is no doubt at all. And"}, {"start": "00:28:42", "end": "00:28:46", "text": "there's no doubt in my mind as well"}, {"start": "00:28:44", "end": "00:28:47", "text": "because I think, you know, we're all"}, {"start": "00:28:46", "end": "00:28:48", "text": "smart enough to know what's real and"}, {"start": "00:28:47", "end": "00:28:48", "text": "what isn't real."}, {"start": "00:28:48", "end": "00:28:51", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:28:48", "end": "00:28:54", "text": ">> That being said, you know, that still"}, {"start": "00:28:51", "end": "00:28:58", "text": "wouldn't stop them from tampering, you"}, {"start": "00:28:54", "end": "00:29:00", "text": "know, somehow with your memory or, you"}, {"start": "00:28:58", "end": "00:29:02", "text": "know, your mind while you're there. Like"}, {"start": "00:29:00", "end": "00:29:04", "text": "that's something that I feel like the"}, {"start": "00:29:02", "end": "00:29:07", "text": "dark recesses of these, you know,"}, {"start": "00:29:04", "end": "00:29:09", "text": "government factions wouldn't stop at"}, {"start": "00:29:07", "end": "00:29:10", "text": "doing. Has that ever considered across"}, {"start": "00:29:09", "end": "00:29:11", "text": "your mind that they might have been"}, {"start": "00:29:10", "end": "00:29:12", "text": "still"}, {"start": "00:29:11", "end": "00:29:15", "text": ">> Well, yeah. the way they screw with you"}, {"start": "00:29:12", "end": "00:29:17", "text": "by, you know, inserting incorrect and"}, {"start": "00:29:15", "end": "00:29:19", "text": "misleading information"}, {"start": "00:29:17", "end": "00:29:19", "text": ">> into what they're telling you."}, {"start": "00:29:19", "end": "00:29:22", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:29:19", "end": "00:29:24", "text": ">> And it's specific to each person. So if"}, {"start": "00:29:22", "end": "00:29:26", "text": "they start hearing that from somewhere"}, {"start": "00:29:24", "end": "00:29:27", "text": "else, they know exactly who said it,"}, {"start": "00:29:26", "end": "00:29:27", "text": ">> right? Yeah."}, {"start": "00:29:27", "end": "00:29:28", "text": ">> So"}, {"start": "00:29:27", "end": "00:29:33", "text": ">> passage material."}, {"start": "00:29:28", "end": "00:29:35", "text": ">> Yeah. And um yeah, you never know un"}, {"start": "00:29:33", "end": "00:29:38", "text": "this is why I draw such a hard line"}, {"start": "00:29:35", "end": "00:29:41", "text": "between what I work on, what I saw, what"}, {"start": "00:29:38", "end": "00:29:44", "text": "I touched, and uh you know what I was"}, {"start": "00:29:41", "end": "00:29:46", "text": "told or read. So you you never know"}, {"start": "00:29:44", "end": "00:29:48", "text": "about any of the reading material. You"}, {"start": "00:29:46", "end": "00:29:50", "text": "never know about any of the hearsay or"}, {"start": "00:29:48", "end": "00:29:52", "text": "anything you're being taught if that's"}, {"start": "00:29:50", "end": "00:29:54", "text": "it's real unless it's backed up by by"}, {"start": "00:29:52", "end": "00:29:56", "text": "hands-on stuff. Yeah. And I'm sure"}, {"start": "00:29:54", "end": "00:29:57", "text": "there's a lot of nonsense."}, {"start": "00:29:56", "end": "00:29:59", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:29:57", "end": "00:30:01", "text": ">> Know that was in there. Oh, definitely."}, {"start": "00:29:59", "end": "00:30:02", "text": "Definitely. I would I would absolutely"}, {"start": "00:30:01", "end": "00:30:03", "text": "agree with that. Especially if they're"}, {"start": "00:30:02", "end": "00:30:06", "text": "trying to keep a lid on things, they got"}, {"start": "00:30:03", "end": "00:30:07", "text": "to throw some, you know, a wrench in the"}, {"start": "00:30:06", "end": "00:30:08", "text": "system here. They got to they got to"}, {"start": "00:30:07", "end": "00:30:10", "text": "throw you off the scent a little bit."}, {"start": "00:30:08", "end": "00:30:11", "text": "Some red herrings and whatnot."}, {"start": "00:30:10", "end": "00:30:12", "text": ">> Absolutely. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:30:11", "end": "00:30:14", "text": ">> Absolutely."}, {"start": "00:30:12", "end": "00:30:14", "text": ">> That's something even Barry mentioned."}, {"start": "00:30:14", "end": "00:30:15", "text": ">> Yeah. You know."}, {"start": "00:30:14", "end": "00:30:17", "text": ">> Oh, really?"}, {"start": "00:30:15", "end": "00:30:18", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Really did. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:30:17", "end": "00:30:19", "text": ">> Oh, I didn't know that."}, {"start": "00:30:18", "end": "00:30:20", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:30:19", "end": "00:30:21", "text": ">> So, Barry cuz he seemed like the type"}, {"start": "00:30:20", "end": "00:30:22", "text": "that was really excited about this"}, {"start": "00:30:21", "end": "00:30:23", "text": "stuff, too. Like when"}, {"start": "00:30:22", "end": "00:30:24", "text": ">> Oh, wow."}, {"start": "00:30:23", "end": "00:30:26", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:30:24", "end": "00:30:29", "text": ">> Yeah. He really was. He was so What? He"}, {"start": "00:30:26", "end": "00:30:32", "text": "was so excited to have somebody to work."}, {"start": "00:30:29", "end": "00:30:34", "text": "So, it must have been a while between he"}, {"start": "00:30:32", "end": "00:30:36", "text": "had a partner before that because he was"}, {"start": "00:30:34", "end": "00:30:39", "text": "so excited to show me. It's like, you"}, {"start": "00:30:36", "end": "00:30:40", "text": "know, you you got some new cool stuff on"}, {"start": "00:30:39", "end": "00:30:42", "text": "Christmas and you want to show your best"}, {"start": "00:30:40", "end": "00:30:44", "text": "friend something. Wait, come here. Check"}, {"start": "00:30:42", "end": "00:30:46", "text": "this out. You know, so I I remember that"}, {"start": "00:30:44", "end": "00:30:48", "text": "excitement. That was really cool."}, {"start": "00:30:46", "end": "00:30:49", "text": ">> Yeah. He got to brief you, too, which is"}, {"start": "00:30:48", "end": "00:30:51", "text": "like kind of sweet."}, {"start": "00:30:49", "end": "00:30:53", "text": ">> Um, do you think he was at all excited"}, {"start": "00:30:51", "end": "00:30:56", "text": "obviously from like the physics side,"}, {"start": "00:30:53", "end": "00:30:58", "text": "but was he excited? Did you guys ever"}, {"start": "00:30:56", "end": "00:30:59", "text": "discuss like any of the blue documents"}, {"start": "00:30:58", "end": "00:31:00", "text": "stuff together?"}, {"start": "00:30:59", "end": "00:31:03", "text": ">> No,"}, {"start": "00:31:00", "end": "00:31:04", "text": ">> he was. Was he briefed on that?"}, {"start": "00:31:03", "end": "00:31:06", "text": ">> I I don't know."}, {"start": "00:31:04", "end": "00:31:06", "text": ">> You don't know? So, something that came"}, {"start": "00:31:06", "end": "00:31:07", "text": "up?"}, {"start": "00:31:06", "end": "00:31:07", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "00:31:07", "end": "00:31:12", "text": ">> Huh?"}, {"start": "00:31:07", "end": "00:31:13", "text": ">> No, we I mean, you know, we had two"}, {"start": "00:31:12", "end": "00:31:15", "text": "things to do. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:31:13", "end": "00:31:17", "text": ">> And uh and and that was it. You know,"}, {"start": "00:31:15", "end": "00:31:21", "text": "it's the power and propulsion system and"}, {"start": "00:31:17", "end": "00:31:25", "text": "it's, you know, uh you know, directive"}, {"start": "00:31:21", "end": "00:31:29", "text": "one was be able to duplicate this with"}, {"start": "00:31:25", "end": "00:31:31", "text": "existing materials and directive two be"}, {"start": "00:31:29", "end": "00:31:34", "text": "able to disable this system from a"}, {"start": "00:31:31", "end": "00:31:36", "text": "distance with existing materials. No"}, {"start": "00:31:34", "end": "00:31:39", "text": "budget limits in either one. Just find a"}, {"start": "00:31:36", "end": "00:31:41", "text": "way to do it."}, {"start": "00:31:39", "end": "00:31:43", "text": ">> Think we've done either of those?"}, {"start": "00:31:41", "end": "00:31:44", "text": "Probably the second one."}, {"start": "00:31:43", "end": "00:31:48", "text": ">> I hope we did the second. I think the"}, {"start": "00:31:44", "end": "00:31:54", "text": "second one's more important. Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:31:48", "end": "00:31:57", "text": ">> Wow. It's a weird thought. Um"}, {"start": "00:31:54", "end": "00:32:00", "text": "maybe my last question here,"}, {"start": "00:31:57", "end": "00:32:04", "text": "you know, out of the three briefings"}, {"start": "00:32:00", "end": "00:32:08", "text": "that you were um allowed to peruse"}, {"start": "00:32:04", "end": "00:32:10", "text": "during your document readings, you had"}, {"start": "00:32:08", "end": "00:32:15", "text": "Galileo, which was propulsion using"}, {"start": "00:32:10", "end": "00:32:19", "text": "gravity. You had Sidekick, which was the"}, {"start": "00:32:15", "end": "00:32:21", "text": "weaponization of this technology."}, {"start": "00:32:19", "end": "00:32:23", "text": "And then you had Looking Glass. which"}, {"start": "00:32:21", "end": "00:32:25", "text": "was"}, {"start": "00:32:23", "end": "00:32:28", "text": "something to do with time dilation and"}, {"start": "00:32:25", "end": "00:32:32", "text": "peering into time somehow forward"}, {"start": "00:32:28", "end": "00:32:32", "text": "backwards what have you."}, {"start": "00:32:32", "end": "00:32:37", "text": ">> To me, you know, I've spoken to some"}, {"start": "00:32:35", "end": "00:32:42", "text": "people who"}, {"start": "00:32:37", "end": "00:32:45", "text": "have assorted history in let's say some"}, {"start": "00:32:42", "end": "00:32:48", "text": "of these black programs."}, {"start": "00:32:45", "end": "00:32:50", "text": "Time seems like the big one."}, {"start": "00:32:48", "end": "00:32:52", "text": ">> Yeah. But see, I I thought about this,"}, {"start": "00:32:50", "end": "00:32:54", "text": "you know, which which one if you had"}, {"start": "00:32:52", "end": "00:32:56", "text": "your choice would you really be involved"}, {"start": "00:32:54", "end": "00:32:58", "text": "with? No, I'd stick where I was because"}, {"start": "00:32:56", "end": "00:33:00", "text": "with the gravity, you get time,"}, {"start": "00:32:58", "end": "00:33:02", "text": ">> right? But that's what I mean. I feel"}, {"start": "00:33:00", "end": "00:33:03", "text": "like gravity is is used in all three of"}, {"start": "00:33:02", "end": "00:33:05", "text": "these."}, {"start": "00:33:03", "end": "00:33:07", "text": ">> Yeah, but that there's the machine that"}, {"start": "00:33:05", "end": "00:33:09", "text": "makes the gravity. I see."}, {"start": "00:33:07", "end": "00:33:11", "text": ">> So, you're part of that and then you're"}, {"start": "00:33:09", "end": "00:33:13", "text": "nowhere unless you can power it. M"}, {"start": "00:33:11", "end": "00:33:15", "text": ">> so if you've got"}, {"start": "00:33:13", "end": "00:33:15", "text": ">> the gravity propulsion and the power"}, {"start": "00:33:15", "end": "00:33:16", "text": "system"}, {"start": "00:33:15", "end": "00:33:18", "text": ">> the other two"}, {"start": "00:33:16", "end": "00:33:20", "text": ">> you got you got the other two those will"}, {"start": "00:33:18", "end": "00:33:22", "text": "come in time but you can start with"}, {"start": "00:33:20", "end": "00:33:22", "text": "those two and you'll never get to that"}, {"start": "00:33:22", "end": "00:33:23", "text": "one."}, {"start": "00:33:22", "end": "00:33:26", "text": ">> So"}, {"start": "00:33:23", "end": "00:33:32", "text": ">> yeah I was I was where I wanted to be."}, {"start": "00:33:26", "end": "00:33:35", "text": ">> Do you think we succeeded in at least"}, {"start": "00:33:32", "end": "00:33:37", "text": "you know using gravity in that way in to"}, {"start": "00:33:35", "end": "00:33:38", "text": "manipulate time or to peer into time in"}, {"start": "00:33:37", "end": "00:33:40", "text": "some way?"}, {"start": "00:33:38", "end": "00:33:41", "text": ">> I don't know. I mean, you don't see it"}, {"start": "00:33:40", "end": "00:33:44", "text": "anywhere."}, {"start": "00:33:41", "end": "00:33:45", "text": ">> If if so, they're keeping it well well"}, {"start": "00:33:44", "end": "00:33:47", "text": "covered."}, {"start": "00:33:45", "end": "00:33:50", "text": ">> I've heard some um some"}, {"start": "00:33:47", "end": "00:33:51", "text": "So, people I know that have spoken to"}, {"start": "00:33:50", "end": "00:33:54", "text": "witnesses that are apparently in the"}, {"start": "00:33:51", "end": "00:33:55", "text": "program have talked about some weird"}, {"start": "00:33:54", "end": "00:33:58", "text": "interaction with a sphere that they"}, {"start": "00:33:55", "end": "00:34:00", "text": "called like looking glass, which was a"}, {"start": "00:33:58", "end": "00:34:03", "text": "sphere that they had to interact with"}, {"start": "00:34:00", "end": "00:34:06", "text": "consciously and could peer into time"}, {"start": "00:34:03", "end": "00:34:07", "text": "through consciousness-based interaction"}, {"start": "00:34:06", "end": "00:34:10", "text": "somehow."}, {"start": "00:34:07", "end": "00:34:12", "text": ">> Wow. Okay. Um, I was just wondering like"}, {"start": "00:34:10", "end": "00:34:14", "text": "for me like that, you know, you might"}, {"start": "00:34:12", "end": "00:34:16", "text": "have seen maybe the genesis of this"}, {"start": "00:34:14", "end": "00:34:17", "text": "program or at least like the baby steps"}, {"start": "00:34:16", "end": "00:34:18", "text": "of it. Maybe that's where we're at now"}, {"start": "00:34:17", "end": "00:34:19", "text": "is like"}, {"start": "00:34:18", "end": "00:34:19", "text": ">> that would be cool,"}, {"start": "00:34:19", "end": "00:34:21", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:34:19", "end": "00:34:23", "text": ">> Yeah, that would be cool."}, {"start": "00:34:21", "end": "00:34:23", "text": ">> I can only hope something like that"}, {"start": "00:34:23", "end": "00:34:25", "text": "happen."}, {"start": "00:34:23", "end": "00:34:27", "text": ">> Yeah. Hope hopefully that and not so"}, {"start": "00:34:25", "end": "00:34:30", "text": "much the directed energy stuff and all"}, {"start": "00:34:27", "end": "00:34:32", "text": "that other weird, you know, weaponizing"}, {"start": "00:34:30", "end": "00:34:34", "text": "of of alien technology."}, {"start": "00:34:32", "end": "00:34:36", "text": ">> That's always going to be number one,"}, {"start": "00:34:34", "end": "00:34:38", "text": "you know. You got to let that go."}, {"start": "00:34:36", "end": "00:34:40", "text": ">> Yeah. All right. All right. Well, Bob"}, {"start": "00:34:38", "end": "00:34:42", "text": "Lazar, um, thank you so much for doing"}, {"start": "00:34:40", "end": "00:34:44", "text": "this. I know you had a long day today,"}, {"start": "00:34:42", "end": "00:34:45", "text": "and I I really appreciate your time, and"}, {"start": "00:34:44", "end": "00:34:47", "text": "I appreciate you candidly answering"}, {"start": "00:34:45", "end": "00:34:49", "text": "these questions, and, you know, it's"}, {"start": "00:34:47", "end": "00:34:50", "text": "not, uh, it's not always probably the"}, {"start": "00:34:49", "end": "00:34:52", "text": "most pleasant thing to go through all"}, {"start": "00:34:50", "end": "00:34:54", "text": "this, but I I do appreciate you, uh,"}, {"start": "00:34:52", "end": "00:34:56", "text": "taking the time, and, uh,"}, {"start": "00:34:54", "end": "00:34:58", "text": "congratulations on, you know, getting"}, {"start": "00:34:56", "end": "00:35:01", "text": "your story out there through Project"}, {"start": "00:34:58", "end": "00:35:04", "text": "Gravit, and S4, the Bob Lazar story, and"}, {"start": "00:35:01", "end": "00:35:06", "text": "I look forward to seeing how the world"}, {"start": "00:35:04", "end": "00:35:08", "text": "changes once again after the story airs."}, {"start": "00:35:06", "end": "00:35:11", "text": "Well, thanks for letting me come back."}, {"start": "00:35:08", "end": "00:35:11", "text": "Thanks, Bob. Bye."}]

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Thanks,"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "another episode of Debriefed. My name is"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "Chris Ramsey and today we are going to"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "be taking yet another look at the story"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "of Amorei Rivera. In part one, you might"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "remember, but he was working at a"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "nightclub. 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They were then met by a"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "humanlooking entity. He claims to be"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "human from the planet Ka. And these uh"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "gray beings that were around him were"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "sort of these uh biological drones, if"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "you will."}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "He then proceeded to take the entire"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "group on a tour, but not a real tour,"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "more of a virtual tour, a projection as"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "he called it, and brought them to their"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "planet car, where they saw some amazing"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "things. Uh but projection number two and"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "three which we're going to be getting"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "into today turned out to be quite"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "earthshattering enough to make Amorei"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "himself"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "leave his current life and become a"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "doomsday prepper somewhere in the"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "jungles of Puerto Rico. 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We pay the bills."}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "Let's get into reading part two of the"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "abduction"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "of Amorei Rivera."}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "I tell you folks, not only if you"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "haven't seen part one, go watch part one"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "by the way, but uh there are pictures."}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "One of the only reasons I I I take this"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "case seriously, it's really hard to take"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "abduction cases"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "uh with high conviction"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "based on just story. And not that they"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "didn't happen or not that I don't want"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "them to happen or not that I believe or"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "don't believe. It's just you you have to"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "take things at face value and without"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "any, you know, clear physical evidence,"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "it's really hard to do that. But this is"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "one of those rare cases where right"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "after, I assume right after the"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "abduction, right after he got dropped"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "off, he snapped these photos. And we're"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "going to find that out while reading"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "this hopefully today. So, let's just get"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "into it."}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "I got two coffee cups here. one from"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "last time."}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "Here we go. Like this video, subscribe,"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "hit the notification bell."}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "The room seemed as it had gray walls"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "again. These apparently solid walls now"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "turned into light, daylight. 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Our seats started to turn,"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "and we then saw some towers that looked"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "like they were used for communication of"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "sorts."}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "The guide told us that this place was in"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "the western part of Puerto Rico. It"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "looked like a normal, peaceful day."}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "Judging from the sun's orientation, it"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "might have been around noon. All of a"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "sudden, everything was engulfed in a"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "dark shadow,"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "as if the day had sped up tremendously."}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "As I looked up, I saw something"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "obstructing the sun."}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "Only a small portion of the sun was"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "visible. I thought of maybe an eclipse."}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "A loud buzzing sound was heard in the"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "distance, a continuous thunder."}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "We all saw it at the same time up in the"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "sky."}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "A rock."}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "It was crumbling into pieces as it came"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "down, but its size instead of decreasing"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "only increased as it got closer."}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "Everyone in our group, including our"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "guide and his two companions, was headed"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "towards that dark object that fell from"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "the sky. 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I placed my hands on"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "my ears and yelled off the top of my"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "lungs, \"No!\" The thunderlike sound got"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "so loud, I thought my eardrums would"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "burst. I simply cannot describe the"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "sound this rock island made as it fell."}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "If you'd stand close to the space"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "shuttle's rocket during takeoff, maybe"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "you would have an idea of what it was"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "like. It got to the point"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "I could not even hear myself screaming."}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "I was about to collapse. I think I"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "actually did for a moment. I'm not lying"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "when I say that at the time."}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "Okay, so we're obviously witnessing"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "a giant meteor about to strike the"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "Earth."}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "I I suppose in the vicinity of Puerto"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "Rico. We apparently fell with this"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "island rock. The falling sensation was"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "terrible. By then, I'd stopped screaming"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "and could only watch, dumbfounded, as"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "the next events unfolded. 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The screams"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "were heard again, and every time the"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "island shook. Every tree vibrated. The"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "sun still shunned as if unaware of all"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "that was happening. The vapor ball"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "turned into rain that fell everywhere."}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "We then heard another thunderlike sound,"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "but this time caused by an earthquake. A"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "woman that was in group couldn't take it"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "anymore and fainted. She slipped from"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "her seat, and I thought she would fall"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "into that disaster, yet she fell only"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "onto the invisible floor of that"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "projection room. She looked like she was"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "floating in the air while unconscious."}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "The two beings with fetus-like heads"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "rapidly went to her as if gliding"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "through the air. They picked her up and"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "placed her in her seat. Yet she was"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "still not conscious. I thought of"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "helping her, but I simply felt paralyzed"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "and about to pass out myself. I couldn't"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "feel my feet anymore. The little men"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "returned to the human gues side when"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "something immense caught my attention. A"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "wall had been raised. A gigantic,"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "threatening mortal wave."}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "This devastating wall kept getting"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "bigger as the water receded from the"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "shore, leaving an uncommon landscape"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "visible to the naked eye. Corals, reefs,"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "and all kinds of sea life were now"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "exposed to direct sunlight."}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "We could see underwater valleys and"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "hills, as well as great aquatic cliffs."}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "What I could only guess were fish leaped"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "over the now exposed seafloor due to the"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "ocean being pulled back."}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "The wall grew solid and overwhelming."}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "I thought of my friends and family, and"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "I thought they were only cleverly"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "projected images. I heard the island"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "shake again, and with it the horror"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "screams of the Puerto Rican population."}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "When the sea had receded a few miles"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "out, the wall then started to make its"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "way to the island. I could imagine what"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "was about to happen. I wanted to beg the"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "human guide to stop the projection. I"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "looked at him and his two companions for"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "a moment and I felt hate."}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "He was just standing there so unmoved"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "while all this was happening, sure of"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "himself, untouchable."}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "I didn't want to see what was happening,"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "but all the while I couldn't stop"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "watching. The Great Wall was approaching"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "land."}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "It got to the coast, but it didn't stop"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "there. Kept going inland. It seemed to"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "be dragging everything in its path."}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "Thousands of hysterical screams were"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "drowned in a matter of seconds."}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "Everything was dead silent. The giant"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "wave broke somewhere out of our range of"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "vision. It covered everything, even the"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "mountains."}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "Somehow, we started to get a better view"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "of everything."}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "The sea was full of debris and garbage."}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "We saw hundreds of destroyed homes and"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "their remains floating everywhere. Palm"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "trees and other trees had been yanked"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "out of the ground. What looked like a"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "little island was actually on top of one"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "of the highest mountains of the area."}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "Thousands of drowned people and animals"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "floated in the water. The strange thing"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "is that everything happened on broad"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "daylight. The sun shone like it did"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "before the disaster as if nothing"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "happened."}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "Yeah, that's got to be an unsettling"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "feeling to say the least, folks. Seeing"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "the sun on a beautiful day and this all"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "happening."}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "The detail in which Amorei goes into"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "here."}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "I mean clearly"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "if this didn't come from some type of"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "message or dream requires an immense"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "creative mind because he is detailing"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "things that you know science fictionists"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "or science fiction writers would be able"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "to uh maybe concoct after you know"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "really being immersed in this sort of"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "worldb buildinging. Um it's just hard to"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "imagine that he's just making this up as"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "he goes. But you know, then again, we"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "have to remain a little bit skeptical"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "here. Not only to uh not only whether or"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "not Omorei is telling the truth, but"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "whether or not these beings are telling"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "Amorei the truth. You know, that's an"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "interesting"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "layer that we have to dissect as well."}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "But the uh you know the waves pulling"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "back and revealing things and then the"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "the sudden silence when everything gets"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "drowned out like these are"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "incredible details."}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "All of us in the group cried"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "uncontrollably. The lady who had fainted"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "had regained consciousness. The"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "emotional pain was very strong. It made"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "you want to cease living. The guy tried"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "to console us by reminding us that they"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "were merely projected images and that it"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "wasn't really happening right now. My"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "thoughts were all over the place. The"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "images we saw went in and out of my mind"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "like in a television with a child"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "holding the remote control. My nervous"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "system was about to burst. I imagined"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "horrible scenes relating to my family."}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "I thought that maybe some of the people"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "who had drowned were them. Our seats"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "revolved slowly so that we could observe"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "all the horror."}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "The only thing not covered by the"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "turbulent sea of the area we were"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "looking at was that small portion of"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "land that looked like a little island."}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "I don't know if all Puerto Rico was now"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "underwater since we could only see this"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "area in particular."}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "The water looked dark and dirty. The"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "debris in it was tremendous. I didn't"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "see any more birds and the only human"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "presence was us."}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "We turned to where we faced the guide"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "and his creations again."}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "I thought I saw sadness in the face of"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "the one that called himself Amaron."}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "We headed towards that small portion of"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "land that was not underwater."}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "Was this all that was left of Puerto"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "Rico"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "or maybe now Puerto Rico? Not sure if"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "that's like a pun, so maybe let me know."}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "We descended to this place."}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "There was no vegetation and the ground"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "was wet. It was a very small piece of"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "land. Maybe 20 homes could be built"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "there. From this closer perspective, the"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "sea looked even darker and all the"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "things floating in it we could see"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "clear."}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "The seawater rain caused by the impact"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "ceased. All of a sudden, the image went"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "wavy and it disappeared. In its place,"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "the walls of that place again were made"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "visible. It was at the end of that"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "projection and I was relieved. I didn't"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "want to see anymore. I only wanted to"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "get out of that place. Fear though, I"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "think kept me from doing it. Also, I"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "didn't see doors or windows. Even if I"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "had mustered up the courage to do it"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "again, where would I run to? Even if I"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "had mustered up the courage to do it"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "again, where would I run to? How would I"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "get out?"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "There was also the possibility that"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "those two creatures would go after me."}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "The mere thought of them touching me"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "again was enough to make me stay put."}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "The man dressed in black gave us a few"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "moments to settle down. Some, myself"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "included, were still crying."}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "He insisted that what we had just seen"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "was just an image, but that in reality,"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "that's how it would happen. Those words"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "destroyed me. In reality, that's how it"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "would happen. Which reality? At the"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "time, I didn't know what that was. My"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "own reality had died. They had killed"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "it. Now I ask that you calm down."}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "Remember that is not happening now."}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "They're only images. The next projection"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "will be shown partially in just one"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "dimension. It will be less difficult"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "than to absorb the information. However,"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "I warn you that these will be the most"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "shocking. So be prepared."}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "With these words, the room went dark"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "again. I gulped and for a moment stopped"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "breathing. We started to turn again in"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "our seats and then suddenly stopped."}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "With this movement, instead of being in"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "the last row, I was now in the first."}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "The person that had been in front of me"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "was now to my right, and the boy that"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "was next to me was now behind. The guide"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "and his friends to our right. This"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "projection we saw as if we were in a"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "movie theater, except that the images"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "were clearer and with a lot of depth"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "perception. It was like watching the"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "events through a glass. I remember"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "looking back to see if I could catch a"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "view of the projector, a device that was"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "playing these images that looked so"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "real. The only thing I could see though"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "were the faces filled with terror of the"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "others in the group and the room's"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:45", "text": "infinite darkness. The projection had no"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "sound and it resembled a documentary."}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "The narrator was he who had stated was"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "an extraterrestrial."}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "Okay,"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "this is uh concerning to say the least."}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "I wonder I guess my I suppose my"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "question is I wonder if"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "Amorei"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "had"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:17", "text": "successfully made contact with anyone"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "else that was on the ship. You know, I"}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "I've dug into him. He's got a YouTube"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "channel, but it's like it's not a big"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "YouTube channel and it's really just it"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "doesn't seem like he really cares if"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "people watch it or not, but he's just"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "kind of, you know, become this prepper."}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "And I wonder if he, yeah, had"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "communicated with or found some of those"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "other people because for me that would"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "be empirical evidence that uh that this"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "at the very least was a shared"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "hallucination. 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Also, we were shown people"}, {"start": "00:24:59", "end": "00:25:04", "text": "trying to form some sort of government,"}, {"start": "00:25:00", "end": "00:25:06", "text": "but their very nature wouldn't allow it."}, {"start": "00:25:04", "end": "00:25:09", "text": "Fires would spread throughout the entire"}, {"start": "00:25:06", "end": "00:25:11", "text": "planet. There will be so many dead from"}, {"start": "00:25:09", "end": "00:25:14", "text": "hunger, disease, and earthquakes that"}, {"start": "00:25:11", "end": "00:25:16", "text": "they'll be thrown in those fires."}, {"start": "00:25:14", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "There wouldn't be time or resources to"}, {"start": "00:25:16", "end": "00:25:22", "text": "bury them. We were told society as we"}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:25", "text": "know it would cease to exist. Only the"}, {"start": "00:25:22", "end": "00:25:27", "text": "rich, powerful, and disease-free people"}, {"start": "00:25:25", "end": "00:25:29", "text": "would live in the floating city. The"}, {"start": "00:25:27", "end": "00:25:33", "text": "rest of humanity would return to a"}, {"start": "00:25:29", "end": "00:25:33", "text": "semi-prehistoric state."}, {"start": "00:25:35", "end": "00:25:38", "text": "What a downer."}, {"start": "00:25:39", "end": "00:25:42", "text": "Yikes."}, {"start": "00:25:45", "end": "00:25:52", "text": "You know this is uh this is resembling"}, {"start": "00:25:49", "end": "00:25:54", "text": "we hear this from so many experiencers"}, {"start": "00:25:52", "end": "00:25:56", "text": "this"}, {"start": "00:25:54", "end": "00:26:00", "text": "you know I I often talk about that too"}, {"start": "00:25:56", "end": "00:26:03", "text": "how you know Bud Hopkins a lot of his"}, {"start": "00:26:00", "end": "00:26:05", "text": "regression cases"}, {"start": "00:26:03", "end": "00:26:08", "text": "they would talk about these horrible"}, {"start": "00:26:05", "end": "00:26:10", "text": "images of just the world's end and they"}, {"start": "00:26:08", "end": "00:26:13", "text": "were being shown this constantly and"}, {"start": "00:26:10", "end": "00:26:16", "text": "they were being somehow prepared for"}, {"start": "00:26:13", "end": "00:26:20", "text": "something. This is not new. This idea of"}, {"start": "00:26:16", "end": "00:26:23", "text": "the preparation of a select chosen few"}, {"start": "00:26:20", "end": "00:26:27", "text": "during an apocalyptic era"}, {"start": "00:26:23", "end": "00:26:29", "text": "is not uncommon um for experiencers."}, {"start": "00:26:27", "end": "00:26:31", "text": "It's something that a lot of them I"}, {"start": "00:26:29", "end": "00:26:35", "text": "think this is one of the first times"}, {"start": "00:26:31", "end": "00:26:37", "text": "where I hear such a clear"}, {"start": "00:26:35", "end": "00:26:39", "text": "message."}, {"start": "00:26:37", "end": "00:26:41", "text": "Like normally it's just, oh, they showed"}, {"start": "00:26:39", "end": "00:26:44", "text": "us images of terrible things or"}, {"start": "00:26:41", "end": "00:26:46", "text": "projections of terrible things that"}, {"start": "00:26:44", "end": "00:26:47", "text": "seemed so real."}, {"start": "00:26:46", "end": "00:26:48", "text": "But you're left with that and you go,"}, {"start": "00:26:47", "end": "00:26:49", "text": "\"What do I do with this information?"}, {"start": "00:26:48", "end": "00:26:51", "text": "What do you want me to do? You want me"}, {"start": "00:26:49", "end": "00:26:52", "text": "to What do you want me to do? I'm not"}, {"start": "00:26:51", "end": "00:26:54", "text": "Superman. I can't fly around save"}, {"start": "00:26:52", "end": "00:26:56", "text": "everybody. What's the point?\" Well, it"}, {"start": "00:26:54", "end": "00:26:58", "text": "seems like here we're getting a point."}, {"start": "00:26:56", "end": "00:27:00", "text": "And I think hopefully they'll get to"}, {"start": "00:26:58", "end": "00:27:02", "text": "that eventually. I know that, you know,"}, {"start": "00:27:00", "end": "00:27:05", "text": "my in part one was chosen to be the"}, {"start": "00:27:02", "end": "00:27:06", "text": "tender of flowers or whatever, but maybe"}, {"start": "00:27:05", "end": "00:27:08", "text": "that's the point. Maybe they're they are"}, {"start": "00:27:06", "end": "00:27:10", "text": "being prepped and they are being told,"}, {"start": "00:27:08", "end": "00:27:12", "text": "\"Hey, you need to, you know, get ready"}, {"start": "00:27:10", "end": "00:27:14", "text": "for this.\""}, {"start": "00:27:12", "end": "00:27:17", "text": "How do they know Amorei will be spared?"}, {"start": "00:27:14", "end": "00:27:21", "text": "I don't know. Cuz if they can see that,"}, {"start": "00:27:17", "end": "00:27:23", "text": "then they can see into the future."}, {"start": "00:27:21", "end": "00:27:25", "text": "The air would smell like death, but the"}, {"start": "00:27:23", "end": "00:27:28", "text": "stench would not reach the governmental"}, {"start": "00:27:25", "end": "00:27:30", "text": "island city. Its dome would protect her."}, {"start": "00:27:28", "end": "00:27:32", "text": "We were shown how the sky slowly"}, {"start": "00:27:30", "end": "00:27:34", "text": "saturated with ash. The clouds will be"}, {"start": "00:27:32", "end": "00:27:36", "text": "black, and so will the rain. He told us"}, {"start": "00:27:34", "end": "00:27:41", "text": "that there would come a day in which man"}, {"start": "00:27:36", "end": "00:27:41", "text": "will feed off man in order to survive."}, {"start": "00:27:41", "end": "00:27:45", "text": "All this information was accompanied by"}, {"start": "00:27:43", "end": "00:27:47", "text": "the corresponding images. I almost threw"}, {"start": "00:27:45", "end": "00:27:49", "text": "up when I saw a family feeding"}, {"start": "00:27:47", "end": "00:27:51", "text": "themselves."}, {"start": "00:27:49", "end": "00:27:54", "text": "This is sounding more and more like"}, {"start": "00:27:51", "end": "00:27:57", "text": "every single apocalyptic movie I've ever"}, {"start": "00:27:54", "end": "00:28:00", "text": "seen."}, {"start": "00:27:57", "end": "00:28:02", "text": "He said that after all of this and more"}, {"start": "00:28:00", "end": "00:28:04", "text": "had transpired, there would take place"}, {"start": "00:28:02", "end": "00:28:06", "text": "the major event, the cataclysmic"}, {"start": "00:28:04", "end": "00:28:09", "text": "earthquake. Its magnitude and duration"}, {"start": "00:28:06", "end": "00:28:10", "text": "would be like nothing ever seen before."}, {"start": "00:28:09", "end": "00:28:12", "text": "Its force would be enough to destroy the"}, {"start": "00:28:10", "end": "00:28:14", "text": "nuclear plant that powered the floating"}, {"start": "00:28:12", "end": "00:28:17", "text": "island. The explosion of this power"}, {"start": "00:28:14", "end": "00:28:19", "text": "plant would initiate a chain reaction of"}, {"start": "00:28:17", "end": "00:28:21", "text": "multiple explosions across the globe."}, {"start": "00:28:19", "end": "00:28:23", "text": "Hundreds of abandoned nuclear weapons"}, {"start": "00:28:21", "end": "00:28:25", "text": "would blow up. The great city and its"}, {"start": "00:28:23", "end": "00:28:28", "text": "inhabitants will be reduced to bits and"}, {"start": "00:28:25", "end": "00:28:31", "text": "pieces and would sink into the dark sea"}, {"start": "00:28:28", "end": "00:28:33", "text": "forever. The planet's geography would"}, {"start": "00:28:31", "end": "00:28:35", "text": "suffer extraordinary and drastic"}, {"start": "00:28:33", "end": "00:28:37", "text": "changes. Nothing will look the same. We"}, {"start": "00:28:35", "end": "00:28:41", "text": "were shown the planet from a distance in"}, {"start": "00:28:37", "end": "00:28:43", "text": "space. A dark and smoke globe, a dead"}, {"start": "00:28:41", "end": "00:28:45", "text": "planet. There would barely be any"}, {"start": "00:28:43", "end": "00:28:48", "text": "survivors. How did those survive? We"}, {"start": "00:28:45", "end": "00:28:50", "text": "were not told. The planet we were shown"}, {"start": "00:28:48", "end": "00:28:53", "text": "was covered with ash and the sun and its"}, {"start": "00:28:50", "end": "00:28:57", "text": "rays could not penetrate the sky. Night"}, {"start": "00:28:53", "end": "00:29:00", "text": "lasted throughout the day. Night and day"}, {"start": "00:28:57", "end": "00:29:02", "text": "and time cease to have any meaning. The"}, {"start": "00:29:00", "end": "00:29:05", "text": "guide then told us"}, {"start": "00:29:02", "end": "00:29:07", "text": "then would come the time of the"}, {"start": "00:29:05", "end": "00:29:09", "text": "originator."}, {"start": "00:29:07", "end": "00:29:11", "text": "This I honestly didn't understand. I am"}, {"start": "00:29:09", "end": "00:29:14", "text": "now going to try my best to describe the"}, {"start": "00:29:11", "end": "00:29:16", "text": "images we saw next. Our world appeared"}, {"start": "00:29:14", "end": "00:29:18", "text": "in darkness. A group of people gathered"}, {"start": "00:29:16", "end": "00:29:20", "text": "around a fire. Their clothing looked"}, {"start": "00:29:18", "end": "00:29:22", "text": "like rags. Looked as if they were"}, {"start": "00:29:20", "end": "00:29:24", "text": "roasting sausages."}, {"start": "00:29:22", "end": "00:29:27", "text": "Their faces"}, {"start": "00:29:24", "end": "00:29:28", "text": "was death and life."}, {"start": "00:29:27", "end": "00:29:31", "text": "They were all skin and bones, men,"}, {"start": "00:29:28", "end": "00:29:33", "text": "women, and children. The ash covered"}, {"start": "00:29:31", "end": "00:29:36", "text": "them from head to toe."}, {"start": "00:29:33", "end": "00:29:38", "text": "Close to that group, there was a cave"}, {"start": "00:29:36", "end": "00:29:39", "text": "that gave off light."}, {"start": "00:29:38", "end": "00:29:41", "text": "I thought that maybe there were a few"}, {"start": "00:29:39", "end": "00:29:44", "text": "more of them inside. One of them was"}, {"start": "00:29:41", "end": "00:29:46", "text": "looking at the dark sky. He gestured and"}, {"start": "00:29:44", "end": "00:29:48", "text": "pointed to the sky. We didn't hear what"}, {"start": "00:29:46", "end": "00:29:50", "text": "he was saying or shouting since the"}, {"start": "00:29:48", "end": "00:29:52", "text": "projection had no sound. The others went"}, {"start": "00:29:50", "end": "00:29:55", "text": "to him and when they looked up, they"}, {"start": "00:29:52", "end": "00:29:57", "text": "started to jump from joy, but I could"}, {"start": "00:29:55", "end": "00:29:58", "text": "also see in their faces a little"}, {"start": "00:29:57", "end": "00:30:00", "text": "madness."}, {"start": "00:29:58", "end": "00:30:02", "text": "More people came out of the cave and"}, {"start": "00:30:00", "end": "00:30:03", "text": "joined the apparent celebration. We"}, {"start": "00:30:02", "end": "00:30:05", "text": "still couldn't see what was causing this"}, {"start": "00:30:03", "end": "00:30:08", "text": "behavior. All of a sudden, something"}, {"start": "00:30:05", "end": "00:30:09", "text": "from the sky illuminated all these 50 or"}, {"start": "00:30:08", "end": "00:30:12", "text": "so people."}, {"start": "00:30:09", "end": "00:30:15", "text": "They were all staring as if hypnotized."}, {"start": "00:30:12", "end": "00:30:18", "text": "They stopped moving. They seemed like"}, {"start": "00:30:15", "end": "00:30:20", "text": "trapped in a circle by the light."}, {"start": "00:30:18", "end": "00:30:22", "text": "We all observed a group of people lit up"}, {"start": "00:30:20", "end": "00:30:25", "text": "in that circle, but we still couldn't"}, {"start": "00:30:22", "end": "00:30:26", "text": "see where the light was coming from. It"}, {"start": "00:30:25", "end": "00:30:29", "text": "looked as if it was coming from the"}, {"start": "00:30:26", "end": "00:30:31", "text": "darkness of the sky. Suddenly, another"}, {"start": "00:30:29", "end": "00:30:33", "text": "smaller column of light appeared that"}, {"start": "00:30:31", "end": "00:30:35", "text": "shone in front of the group. Inside this"}, {"start": "00:30:33", "end": "00:30:38", "text": "light, the figure of a man seemed to"}, {"start": "00:30:35", "end": "00:30:40", "text": "descend to the ground. The small column"}, {"start": "00:30:38", "end": "00:30:43", "text": "of light blended with the larger one,"}, {"start": "00:30:40", "end": "00:30:45", "text": "and the man addressed the group. We"}, {"start": "00:30:43", "end": "00:30:48", "text": "couldn't hear what he said, though. The"}, {"start": "00:30:45", "end": "00:30:49", "text": "images slowly withdrew from us. From"}, {"start": "00:30:48", "end": "00:30:52", "text": "above, all we could see were little"}, {"start": "00:30:49", "end": "00:30:55", "text": "shadows. The fire looked like a little"}, {"start": "00:30:52", "end": "00:30:57", "text": "lit match. In a sky appeared in intense"}, {"start": "00:30:55", "end": "00:30:59", "text": "light, as if the sun itself had come"}, {"start": "00:30:57", "end": "00:31:02", "text": "down below the clouds of ash. The light"}, {"start": "00:30:59", "end": "00:31:05", "text": "descended slowly away from us. It looked"}, {"start": "00:31:02", "end": "00:31:07", "text": "as if it got bigger as it went down."}, {"start": "00:31:05", "end": "00:31:10", "text": "The light formed a brilliant circle. It"}, {"start": "00:31:07", "end": "00:31:13", "text": "was enormous, maybe even a few miles in"}, {"start": "00:31:10", "end": "00:31:15", "text": "diameter. It got to a point where we"}, {"start": "00:31:13", "end": "00:31:18", "text": "could see its upper part. It was an"}, {"start": "00:31:15", "end": "00:31:20", "text": "illuminated object, solid and gigantic."}, {"start": "00:31:18", "end": "00:31:23", "text": "On its surface, it had glass-like"}, {"start": "00:31:20", "end": "00:31:24", "text": "buildings of different bright colors."}, {"start": "00:31:23", "end": "00:31:27", "text": "Its appearance was glorious and"}, {"start": "00:31:24", "end": "00:31:29", "text": "magnificent. As it reached the ground,"}, {"start": "00:31:27", "end": "00:31:32", "text": "it looked like a brooch of precious"}, {"start": "00:31:29", "end": "00:31:33", "text": "stones, illuminated and full of colors."}, {"start": "00:31:32", "end": "00:31:36", "text": "There was a great contrast between it"}, {"start": "00:31:33", "end": "00:31:38", "text": "and that place of darkness. Spread out"}, {"start": "00:31:36", "end": "00:31:40", "text": "in the distance, we noticed other rays"}, {"start": "00:31:38", "end": "00:31:42", "text": "of light, like the one covering the"}, {"start": "00:31:40", "end": "00:31:44", "text": "group of people we were looking at. If"}, {"start": "00:31:42", "end": "00:31:47", "text": "from a distance this object looked the"}, {"start": "00:31:44", "end": "00:31:49", "text": "size of a football field, and close up"}, {"start": "00:31:47", "end": "00:31:51", "text": "it must have been much larger. Imagine"}, {"start": "00:31:49", "end": "00:31:53", "text": "if you will, a green tray with intense"}, {"start": "00:31:51", "end": "00:31:56", "text": "colored squares, round and triangular"}, {"start": "00:31:53", "end": "00:31:57", "text": "objects. We saw the ray of light ascend,"}, {"start": "00:31:56", "end": "00:32:00", "text": "and with it the visitor and the rest of"}, {"start": "00:31:57", "end": "00:32:02", "text": "the people. Only darkness was left"}, {"start": "00:32:00", "end": "00:32:05", "text": "behind. The group climbed up to the"}, {"start": "00:32:02", "end": "00:32:06", "text": "point where the light was coming from."}, {"start": "00:32:05", "end": "00:32:10", "text": "The other rays of light started to do"}, {"start": "00:32:06", "end": "00:32:12", "text": "the same. It looked as if those two"}, {"start": "00:32:10", "end": "00:32:14", "text": "transported people in them, but we"}, {"start": "00:32:12", "end": "00:32:16", "text": "couldn't see it clearly. In the middle"}, {"start": "00:32:14", "end": "00:32:18", "text": "of the darkness, we now only saw that"}, {"start": "00:32:16", "end": "00:32:21", "text": "giant stadiumike object that gave off a"}, {"start": "00:32:18", "end": "00:32:24", "text": "fluorescent green light and a small fire"}, {"start": "00:32:21", "end": "00:32:26", "text": "on the ground. There was then movement"}, {"start": "00:32:24", "end": "00:32:28", "text": "over that object, and immediately we saw"}, {"start": "00:32:26", "end": "00:32:31", "text": "columns of light form a circle on the"}, {"start": "00:32:28", "end": "00:32:34", "text": "object's surface. Through those columns"}, {"start": "00:32:31", "end": "00:32:38", "text": "of light descended little figures after"}, {"start": "00:32:34", "end": "00:32:38", "text": "the lights again ascended."}, {"start": "00:32:38", "end": "00:32:42", "text": "I started to notice the image and the"}, {"start": "00:32:40", "end": "00:32:45", "text": "object got closer to us. According to"}, {"start": "00:32:42", "end": "00:32:48", "text": "the images, we were approaching it from"}, {"start": "00:32:45", "end": "00:32:50", "text": "the top. The green tray turned out to be"}, {"start": "00:32:48", "end": "00:32:52", "text": "grass, trees, and vegetation. There were"}, {"start": "00:32:50", "end": "00:32:54", "text": "flowers, fruits, and animals there. The"}, {"start": "00:32:52", "end": "00:32:56", "text": "precious stones turned out to be houses"}, {"start": "00:32:54", "end": "00:32:58", "text": "and homes."}, {"start": "00:32:56", "end": "00:33:01", "text": "From a great sphere in the center of"}, {"start": "00:32:58", "end": "00:33:03", "text": "this object poured a crystalclear river."}, {"start": "00:33:01", "end": "00:33:05", "text": "The river ran through blue turquoise"}, {"start": "00:33:03", "end": "00:33:08", "text": "canals up to the edges of that green"}, {"start": "00:33:05", "end": "00:33:10", "text": "tray. It flowed in two directions. From"}, {"start": "00:33:08", "end": "00:33:12", "text": "the center to the right, from the center"}, {"start": "00:33:10", "end": "00:33:15", "text": "to the left. Everything was in full"}, {"start": "00:33:12", "end": "00:33:17", "text": "color. And this place, this city,"}, {"start": "00:33:15", "end": "00:33:19", "text": "replaced the survivors who now ran and"}, {"start": "00:33:17", "end": "00:33:21", "text": "jumped from joy"}, {"start": "00:33:19", "end": "00:33:24", "text": "while they fed off the fruits of the"}, {"start": "00:33:21", "end": "00:33:27", "text": "trees. Some also bathed in crystal"}, {"start": "00:33:24", "end": "00:33:29", "text": "clearar waters. It was all illuminated"}, {"start": "00:33:27", "end": "00:33:32", "text": "like daylight. A daylight that formed a"}, {"start": "00:33:29", "end": "00:33:34", "text": "sort of blanket or aura in the form of a"}, {"start": "00:33:32", "end": "00:33:36", "text": "dome that covered the city. The"}, {"start": "00:33:34", "end": "00:33:38", "text": "brightness reflected in the streets that"}, {"start": "00:33:36", "end": "00:33:42", "text": "looked like they were made out of gold"}, {"start": "00:33:38", "end": "00:33:44", "text": "bricks or at least gold colored."}, {"start": "00:33:42", "end": "00:33:46", "text": "As we watched the survivors rejoice, we"}, {"start": "00:33:44", "end": "00:33:49", "text": "heard a voice."}, {"start": "00:33:46", "end": "00:33:51", "text": "This is a gift from the originator. It"}, {"start": "00:33:49", "end": "00:33:54", "text": "was created with the help of other"}, {"start": "00:33:51", "end": "00:33:56", "text": "humanities of the cosmos. In this place"}, {"start": "00:33:54", "end": "00:33:59", "text": "you will live for a thousand of your"}, {"start": "00:33:56", "end": "00:34:01", "text": "years. But then your earth will be"}, {"start": "00:33:59", "end": "00:34:04", "text": "healthy again so that you can start"}, {"start": "00:34:01", "end": "00:34:07", "text": "over. There you will find all kinds of"}, {"start": "00:34:04", "end": "00:34:09", "text": "seeds and everything necessary for your"}, {"start": "00:34:07", "end": "00:34:11", "text": "reestablishment."}, {"start": "00:34:09", "end": "00:34:15", "text": "The projection ended by showing us a"}, {"start": "00:34:11", "end": "00:34:17", "text": "green landscape full of life, blue sky"}, {"start": "00:34:15", "end": "00:34:19", "text": "and flowers everywhere. The people who"}, {"start": "00:34:17", "end": "00:34:22", "text": "lived on this place looked happy and"}, {"start": "00:34:19", "end": "00:34:23", "text": "content. Animal life was abundant. It"}, {"start": "00:34:22", "end": "00:34:26", "text": "was our earth."}, {"start": "00:34:23", "end": "00:34:29", "text": "The image then undulated like ripples in"}, {"start": "00:34:26", "end": "00:34:31", "text": "the water and it vanished. Everything"}, {"start": "00:34:29", "end": "00:34:33", "text": "was dark again for a moment. I heard"}, {"start": "00:34:31", "end": "00:34:35", "text": "some of the others crying. Then that"}, {"start": "00:34:33", "end": "00:34:37", "text": "light that came from nowhere returned."}, {"start": "00:34:35", "end": "00:34:39", "text": "Our seats turned until we were facing"}, {"start": "00:34:37", "end": "00:34:42", "text": "the human. The walls had recovered their"}, {"start": "00:34:39", "end": "00:34:45", "text": "solid gray appearance. He told us that"}, {"start": "00:34:42", "end": "00:34:46", "text": "soon it would be time to return. Don't"}, {"start": "00:34:45", "end": "00:34:49", "text": "be afraid of them. They will not harm"}, {"start": "00:34:46", "end": "00:34:51", "text": "you, he said. The creatures then lifted"}, {"start": "00:34:49", "end": "00:34:53", "text": "their arms as if to show him their"}, {"start": "00:34:51", "end": "00:34:55", "text": "palms."}, {"start": "00:34:53", "end": "00:34:58", "text": "He placed his own palms against theirs."}, {"start": "00:34:55", "end": "00:35:00", "text": "Creatures then went one by one and"}, {"start": "00:34:58", "end": "00:35:01", "text": "placed their hands on our foreheads. As"}, {"start": "00:35:00", "end": "00:35:03", "text": "they did, people would lose"}, {"start": "00:35:01", "end": "00:35:06", "text": "consciousness. I remember when I first"}, {"start": "00:35:03", "end": "00:35:08", "text": "saw this, I got so agitated, I thought"}, {"start": "00:35:06", "end": "00:35:09", "text": "I'd die from a heart attack. I didn't"}, {"start": "00:35:08", "end": "00:35:12", "text": "want them to place their damn hands on"}, {"start": "00:35:09", "end": "00:35:15", "text": "me. The same time, I actually wanted to"}, {"start": "00:35:12", "end": "00:35:17", "text": "lose consciousness. Besides, this was"}, {"start": "00:35:15", "end": "00:35:20", "text": "probably a sign that this nightmare was"}, {"start": "00:35:17", "end": "00:35:21", "text": "now over."}, {"start": "00:35:20", "end": "00:35:23", "text": "The little man with the big head stopped"}, {"start": "00:35:21", "end": "00:35:25", "text": "in front of me, his big bulging dark"}, {"start": "00:35:23", "end": "00:35:28", "text": "eyes fixed on me. I felt sort of"}, {"start": "00:35:25", "end": "00:35:29", "text": "hypnotized, either from some suggestive"}, {"start": "00:35:28", "end": "00:35:32", "text": "power that the creature had or from the"}, {"start": "00:35:29", "end": "00:35:34", "text": "fear I felt. He lifted his arm and"}, {"start": "00:35:32", "end": "00:35:38", "text": "directed his palm, his hand, palm facing"}, {"start": "00:35:34", "end": "00:35:40", "text": "outward, toward my forehead. I wanted to"}, {"start": "00:35:38", "end": "00:35:42", "text": "run, escape, and scream with all my"}, {"start": "00:35:40", "end": "00:35:44", "text": "heart. He touched my forehead and"}, {"start": "00:35:42", "end": "00:35:48", "text": "everything went dark."}, {"start": "00:35:44", "end": "00:35:50", "text": "I blinked and saw brightness. I saw one"}, {"start": "00:35:48", "end": "00:35:51", "text": "of those little men at a distance. He"}, {"start": "00:35:50", "end": "00:35:53", "text": "had in his hands a small black"}, {"start": "00:35:51", "end": "00:35:56", "text": "instrument in the shape of a rectangular"}, {"start": "00:35:53", "end": "00:35:58", "text": "box. He brought it closer to his eyes"}, {"start": "00:35:56", "end": "00:36:01", "text": "with both hands. The box gave off a ray"}, {"start": "00:35:58", "end": "00:36:04", "text": "of light that left me blind for a second"}, {"start": "00:36:01", "end": "00:36:06", "text": "and that I then felt on my forehead. It"}, {"start": "00:36:04", "end": "00:36:08", "text": "happened again. I didn't have time to"}, {"start": "00:36:06", "end": "00:36:11", "text": "think or react."}, {"start": "00:36:08", "end": "00:36:13", "text": "I do not know how many times the process"}, {"start": "00:36:11", "end": "00:36:17", "text": "repeated itself or for what reason. It"}, {"start": "00:36:13", "end": "00:36:19", "text": "all happened so quickly."}, {"start": "00:36:17", "end": "00:36:22", "text": "Oo."}, {"start": "00:36:19", "end": "00:36:24", "text": "Okay, let's let's dissect this last"}, {"start": "00:36:22", "end": "00:36:26", "text": "chapter."}, {"start": "00:36:24", "end": "00:36:28", "text": "What do we have here?"}, {"start": "00:36:26", "end": "00:36:30", "text": "We've got"}, {"start": "00:36:28", "end": "00:36:33", "text": "we've got we've got"}, {"start": "00:36:30", "end": "00:36:38", "text": "um a meteor crashing down into Earth by"}, {"start": "00:36:33", "end": "00:36:41", "text": "Puerto Rico, completely destroying"}, {"start": "00:36:38", "end": "00:36:44", "text": "just most things. But then the fallout"}, {"start": "00:36:41", "end": "00:36:46", "text": "from that and I would assume the meteor"}, {"start": "00:36:44", "end": "00:36:48", "text": "itself, but also perhaps all the"}, {"start": "00:36:46", "end": "00:36:52", "text": "radiation due to the tsunamis destroying"}, {"start": "00:36:48", "end": "00:36:56", "text": "nuclear plants and leaving all the fish"}, {"start": "00:36:52", "end": "00:36:58", "text": "and the aquatic life destroyed."}, {"start": "00:36:56", "end": "00:37:00", "text": "People turning to cannibalism, dying of"}, {"start": "00:36:58", "end": "00:37:02", "text": "hunger,"}, {"start": "00:37:00", "end": "00:37:04", "text": "and worse,"}, {"start": "00:37:02", "end": "00:37:07", "text": "it seems like hell on earth. Even the"}, {"start": "00:37:04", "end": "00:37:10", "text": "people, the government people who were"}, {"start": "00:37:07", "end": "00:37:14", "text": "living on that little island"}, {"start": "00:37:10", "end": "00:37:17", "text": "weren't, you know, immune to the uh the"}, {"start": "00:37:14", "end": "00:37:17", "text": "purge."}, {"start": "00:37:19", "end": "00:37:23", "text": "And what do they say? 50 or so people. I"}, {"start": "00:37:21", "end": "00:37:26", "text": "assume there was more than 50 people on"}, {"start": "00:37:23", "end": "00:37:29", "text": "Earth, but at that specific place, maybe"}, {"start": "00:37:26", "end": "00:37:33", "text": "only 50. And is that"}, {"start": "00:37:29", "end": "00:37:35", "text": "are those the people that will survive?"}, {"start": "00:37:33", "end": "00:37:38", "text": "Are those the experiencers that have"}, {"start": "00:37:35", "end": "00:37:43", "text": "been taken time and time again"}, {"start": "00:37:38", "end": "00:37:44", "text": "from these these abductors?"}, {"start": "00:37:43", "end": "00:37:49", "text": "Are they the ones being trained and"}, {"start": "00:37:44", "end": "00:37:49", "text": "told, \"Hey, hold on.\""}, {"start": "00:37:50", "end": "00:37:58", "text": "Or is this all just a confabulation?"}, {"start": "00:37:55", "end": "00:38:01", "text": "This seems to me as well, you know, if"}, {"start": "00:37:58", "end": "00:38:04", "text": "you look at the younger dus era or you"}, {"start": "00:38:01", "end": "00:38:06", "text": "look at all the alternative"}, {"start": "00:38:04", "end": "00:38:09", "text": "histories being presented by people like"}, {"start": "00:38:06", "end": "00:38:14", "text": "Graham Hancock and Randall Carlson."}, {"start": "00:38:09", "end": "00:38:15", "text": "Um maybe this already happened."}, {"start": "00:38:14", "end": "00:38:18", "text": "Maybe they're just showing them"}, {"start": "00:38:15", "end": "00:38:20", "text": "something of the past, you know, and"}, {"start": "00:38:18", "end": "00:38:22", "text": "then a thousand years goes by and once"}, {"start": "00:38:20", "end": "00:38:25", "text": "everything's destroyed and, you know,"}, {"start": "00:38:22", "end": "00:38:30", "text": "they come back. Um, how many times has"}, {"start": "00:38:25", "end": "00:38:33", "text": "this process repeated itself?"}, {"start": "00:38:30", "end": "00:38:35", "text": "Definitely"}, {"start": "00:38:33", "end": "00:38:38", "text": "definitely want to"}, {"start": "00:38:35", "end": "00:38:43", "text": "um stop suspending my belief for this"}, {"start": "00:38:38", "end": "00:38:43", "text": "one. It's crazy. Um,"}, {"start": "00:38:45", "end": "00:38:49", "text": "yeah, it's it's hard to it's hard to"}, {"start": "00:38:47", "end": "00:38:50", "text": "really wrap your mind around because"}, {"start": "00:38:49", "end": "00:38:52", "text": "what are you supposed to do? There's"}, {"start": "00:38:50", "end": "00:38:53", "text": "like essentially nothing we can do. Then"}, {"start": "00:38:52", "end": "00:38:56", "text": "wouldn't the aliens, if they wanted to"}, {"start": "00:38:53", "end": "00:38:59", "text": "preserve this place, just like destroy"}, {"start": "00:38:56", "end": "00:39:03", "text": "that incoming meteor? Wouldn't we? I"}, {"start": "00:38:59", "end": "00:39:04", "text": "guess not."}, {"start": "00:39:03", "end": "00:39:08", "text": "Let's go to chapter six. This is where"}, {"start": "00:39:04", "end": "00:39:11", "text": "Amorei wakes up and uh finds himself"}, {"start": "00:39:08", "end": "00:39:14", "text": "next to his little camera, snaps these"}, {"start": "00:39:11", "end": "00:39:19", "text": "famous pictures of the uh UFO being"}, {"start": "00:39:14", "end": "00:39:19", "text": "surrounded by multiple fighter jets."}, {"start": "00:39:20", "end": "00:39:26", "text": "Chapter 6. When I came to and opened my"}, {"start": "00:39:23", "end": "00:39:28", "text": "eyes, I started to cry."}, {"start": "00:39:26", "end": "00:39:31", "text": "I couldn't contain myself. Never before"}, {"start": "00:39:28", "end": "00:39:33", "text": "had I felt so many unknown emotions. I"}, {"start": "00:39:31", "end": "00:39:36", "text": "was back in my car and held the wheel as"}, {"start": "00:39:33", "end": "00:39:37", "text": "if my life depended on it. I was still"}, {"start": "00:39:36", "end": "00:39:40", "text": "crying by the time I noticed that it was"}, {"start": "00:39:37", "end": "00:39:43", "text": "daytime, morning. Where was I? Thought"}, {"start": "00:39:40", "end": "00:39:45", "text": "to myself that this wasn't Labajura"}, {"start": "00:39:43", "end": "00:39:47", "text": "Bahura"}, {"start": "00:39:45", "end": "00:39:49", "text": "and that I must have woken somewhere"}, {"start": "00:39:47", "end": "00:39:49", "text": "else."}, {"start": "00:39:50", "end": "00:39:54", "text": "The road I took from work was made out"}, {"start": "00:39:52", "end": "00:39:56", "text": "of tar, and the one I was on was mostly"}, {"start": "00:39:54", "end": "00:39:58", "text": "dirt and gravel road and was much wider."}, {"start": "00:39:56", "end": "00:40:01", "text": "I had no idea where I was. I looked"}, {"start": "00:39:58", "end": "00:40:03", "text": "everywhere, yet nothing seemed familiar."}, {"start": "00:40:01", "end": "00:40:06", "text": "I didn't see people or houses. The area"}, {"start": "00:40:03", "end": "00:40:07", "text": "was deserted. I was able to stop crying,"}, {"start": "00:40:06", "end": "00:40:09", "text": "and when I was about to get out of the"}, {"start": "00:40:07", "end": "00:40:11", "text": "car was when I heard the military"}, {"start": "00:40:09", "end": "00:40:13", "text": "planes."}, {"start": "00:40:11", "end": "00:40:15", "text": "Then when I looked up at the sky, I saw"}, {"start": "00:40:13", "end": "00:40:18", "text": "it"}, {"start": "00:40:15", "end": "00:40:21", "text": "round in shape and blue gray in color."}, {"start": "00:40:18", "end": "00:40:24", "text": "At first, I only saw its bottom section."}, {"start": "00:40:21", "end": "00:40:26", "text": "It had a dome made out of the some"}, {"start": "00:40:24", "end": "00:40:29", "text": "reflective material."}, {"start": "00:40:26", "end": "00:40:31", "text": "The UFO didn't make a sound. It was"}, {"start": "00:40:29", "end": "00:40:34", "text": "suspended in the air like some act of"}, {"start": "00:40:31", "end": "00:40:36", "text": "magic. While three military planes"}, {"start": "00:40:34", "end": "00:40:38", "text": "surveyed it, they flew very low, almost"}, {"start": "00:40:36", "end": "00:40:40", "text": "as if they could hit the ground. I even"}, {"start": "00:40:38", "end": "00:40:42", "text": "thought they might actually crash into"}, {"start": "00:40:40", "end": "00:40:45", "text": "each other. One of them got dangerously"}, {"start": "00:40:42", "end": "00:40:47", "text": "close to the UFO. I took my cousin's"}, {"start": "00:40:45", "end": "00:40:49", "text": "camera and got out of the car. I raised"}, {"start": "00:40:47", "end": "00:40:51", "text": "the camera and looked through the lens."}, {"start": "00:40:49", "end": "00:40:54", "text": "Every time I took a picture, I heard a"}, {"start": "00:40:51", "end": "00:40:56", "text": "noise, not unlike the one a digital"}, {"start": "00:40:54", "end": "00:40:59", "text": "watch makes, like a beep beep. I heard"}, {"start": "00:40:56", "end": "00:41:02", "text": "it many times."}, {"start": "00:40:59", "end": "00:41:06", "text": "I never knew where that sound came from,"}, {"start": "00:41:02", "end": "00:41:10", "text": "if from the object or some other place."}, {"start": "00:41:06", "end": "00:41:13", "text": "The object then tilted"}, {"start": "00:41:10", "end": "00:41:15", "text": "and I was able to see the upper part,"}, {"start": "00:41:13", "end": "00:41:18", "text": "which was identical to the bottom. They"}, {"start": "00:41:15", "end": "00:41:20", "text": "both had the same dome and star-like"}, {"start": "00:41:18", "end": "00:41:22", "text": "design"}, {"start": "00:41:20", "end": "00:41:24", "text": "that went from the center to the edges."}, {"start": "00:41:22", "end": "00:41:29", "text": "After it tilted,"}, {"start": "00:41:24", "end": "00:41:32", "text": "it shot up and was lost from view."}, {"start": "00:41:29", "end": "00:41:34", "text": "As I took off, as it took off, I saw a"}, {"start": "00:41:32", "end": "00:41:36", "text": "flash of light. I don't know if it was"}, {"start": "00:41:34", "end": "00:41:39", "text": "produced by this flying saucer, by the"}, {"start": "00:41:36", "end": "00:41:42", "text": "reflection on its dome. The planes then"}, {"start": "00:41:39", "end": "00:41:44", "text": "left in opposite direction."}, {"start": "00:41:42", "end": "00:41:46", "text": "I thought they'd go after it, but they"}, {"start": "00:41:44", "end": "00:41:49", "text": "didn't. All this happened in a matter of"}, {"start": "00:41:46", "end": "00:41:52", "text": "seconds, probably less time than it took"}, {"start": "00:41:49", "end": "00:41:54", "text": "you to read this part."}, {"start": "00:41:52", "end": "00:41:57", "text": "Everything was now quiet and looked as"}, {"start": "00:41:54", "end": "00:41:59", "text": "if I was dreaming. Like a zombie, I went"}, {"start": "00:41:57", "end": "00:42:01", "text": "back to my car. I started up the motor"}, {"start": "00:41:59", "end": "00:42:04", "text": "and headed into the direction it was"}, {"start": "00:42:01", "end": "00:42:06", "text": "pointing. I had no idea where I was. I"}, {"start": "00:42:04", "end": "00:42:09", "text": "was driving on an open field slowly and"}, {"start": "00:42:06", "end": "00:42:11", "text": "immersed in my thoughts. When I woke up"}, {"start": "00:42:09", "end": "00:42:13", "text": "in my car and was crying, I had no"}, {"start": "00:42:11", "end": "00:42:15", "text": "recollection of what had transpired that"}, {"start": "00:42:13", "end": "00:42:18", "text": "morning. When I saw the planes and the"}, {"start": "00:42:15", "end": "00:42:20", "text": "other silent object, I remembered the"}, {"start": "00:42:18", "end": "00:42:21", "text": "encounter."}, {"start": "00:42:20", "end": "00:42:24", "text": "However, I could only remember when one"}, {"start": "00:42:21", "end": "00:42:26", "text": "of the little men opened my car door and"}, {"start": "00:42:24", "end": "00:42:31", "text": "the fear I felt. What took place after"}, {"start": "00:42:26", "end": "00:42:33", "text": "that was as if it never happened."}, {"start": "00:42:31", "end": "00:42:35", "text": "First, a moment filled with terror"}, {"start": "00:42:33", "end": "00:42:36", "text": "caused by those beings, and then it's"}, {"start": "00:42:35", "end": "00:42:38", "text": "daytime and I'm in my car somewhere"}, {"start": "00:42:36", "end": "00:42:40", "text": "else."}, {"start": "00:42:38", "end": "00:42:42", "text": "I stopped thinking about all this and"}, {"start": "00:42:40", "end": "00:42:44", "text": "just hurried home. Finally, I came upon"}, {"start": "00:42:42", "end": "00:42:48", "text": "a woman watering her garden. Still"}, {"start": "00:42:44", "end": "00:42:49", "text": "dazed, I asked her the way to Cabo Rojo."}, {"start": "00:42:48", "end": "00:42:52", "text": "Thinking that if I could get there, I"}, {"start": "00:42:49", "end": "00:42:54", "text": "could figure out my way home."}, {"start": "00:42:52", "end": "00:42:57", "text": "She told me that we were in one of its"}, {"start": "00:42:54", "end": "00:42:59", "text": "neighborhoods called Las Palmas. and she"}, {"start": "00:42:57", "end": "00:43:02", "text": "then told me how to get to the 301 road"}, {"start": "00:42:59", "end": "00:43:04", "text": "that would bring me into town."}, {"start": "00:43:02", "end": "00:43:07", "text": "I'd never felt so lost in my life."}, {"start": "00:43:04", "end": "00:43:10", "text": "Following her instructions, I got to the"}, {"start": "00:43:07", "end": "00:43:12", "text": "301 road. When I got there, I turned and"}, {"start": "00:43:10", "end": "00:43:14", "text": "headed to the beach, Al Kombbate. I"}, {"start": "00:43:12", "end": "00:43:16", "text": "stopped and asked again. They told me"}, {"start": "00:43:14", "end": "00:43:18", "text": "that Cabaroo was in the opposite"}, {"start": "00:43:16", "end": "00:43:20", "text": "direction, so I turned and headed that"}, {"start": "00:43:18", "end": "00:43:23", "text": "way. I drove, still not knowing where I"}, {"start": "00:43:20", "end": "00:43:25", "text": "was going, just hoping I can get home,"}, {"start": "00:43:23", "end": "00:43:28", "text": "get some sleep. When I got to a certain"}, {"start": "00:43:25", "end": "00:43:31", "text": "intersection, I recognized it. It was"}, {"start": "00:43:28", "end": "00:43:34", "text": "the end of the 301 road. Here started"}, {"start": "00:43:31", "end": "00:43:37", "text": "road 103, which I knew would lead to"}, {"start": "00:43:34", "end": "00:43:39", "text": "Mama's house. I knew this sector well"}, {"start": "00:43:37", "end": "00:43:40", "text": "because when I got there from New York,"}, {"start": "00:43:39", "end": "00:43:44", "text": "I went through it many times to get to"}, {"start": "00:43:40", "end": "00:43:46", "text": "the Bakaron Beach. And it was also the"}, {"start": "00:43:44", "end": "00:43:48", "text": "road I took to get to my other job. I"}, {"start": "00:43:46", "end": "00:43:49", "text": "also had eaten many times in the"}, {"start": "00:43:48", "end": "00:43:51", "text": "restaurant that was in this"}, {"start": "00:43:49", "end": "00:43:53", "text": "intersection. From there, I got home"}, {"start": "00:43:51", "end": "00:43:56", "text": "safe and sound. I parked my car and went"}, {"start": "00:43:53", "end": "00:43:59", "text": "inside with the camera in my hand. Mama"}, {"start": "00:43:56", "end": "00:44:01", "text": "was already up. She was worried and"}, {"start": "00:43:59", "end": "00:44:03", "text": "asked why I'd gotten home so late. She"}, {"start": "00:44:01", "end": "00:44:06", "text": "later told me I didn't answer her when I"}, {"start": "00:44:03", "end": "00:44:07", "text": "went straight to my bedroom. I placed"}, {"start": "00:44:06", "end": "00:44:10", "text": "the camera on the night table and took"}, {"start": "00:44:07", "end": "00:44:14", "text": "off my clothes. When I took off my"}, {"start": "00:44:10", "end": "00:44:16", "text": "trousers, I realized I had peed myself."}, {"start": "00:44:14", "end": "00:44:18", "text": "I didn't think much of it. I just wanted"}, {"start": "00:44:16", "end": "00:44:20", "text": "to sleep. Closed all the windows and"}, {"start": "00:44:18", "end": "00:44:22", "text": "went to sleep naked. I had nothing in"}, {"start": "00:44:20", "end": "00:44:24", "text": "particular in my mind when I started to"}, {"start": "00:44:22", "end": "00:44:26", "text": "fall asleep. No bad thoughts or anything"}, {"start": "00:44:24", "end": "00:44:28", "text": "that might interrupt my sleep. By the"}, {"start": "00:44:26", "end": "00:44:29", "text": "time I got to my bedroom, from where I'd"}, {"start": "00:44:28", "end": "00:44:32", "text": "taken the pictures, I forgotten"}, {"start": "00:44:29", "end": "00:44:34", "text": "everything. I sleep deeply and I didn't"}, {"start": "00:44:32", "end": "00:44:36", "text": "get up for the rest of the day. I didn't"}, {"start": "00:44:34", "end": "00:44:38", "text": "leave my room neither to go to the"}, {"start": "00:44:36", "end": "00:44:40", "text": "bathroom nor to eat. My grandmother"}, {"start": "00:44:38", "end": "00:44:43", "text": "later told me she'd try to wake me up"}, {"start": "00:44:40", "end": "00:44:47", "text": "but couldn't. I got up at around 9:30 or"}, {"start": "00:44:43", "end": "00:44:50", "text": "1000 p.m. to use the bathroom and to eat"}, {"start": "00:44:47", "end": "00:44:52", "text": "a sandwich. and then slept till the next"}, {"start": "00:44:50", "end": "00:44:54", "text": "day. When I woke up, it was as if"}, {"start": "00:44:52", "end": "00:44:56", "text": "nothing had happened. Like I just"}, {"start": "00:44:54", "end": "00:44:58", "text": "returned from work like any other normal"}, {"start": "00:44:56", "end": "00:45:01", "text": "day. The human mind is incredible."}, {"start": "00:44:58", "end": "00:45:03", "text": "Sometimes it knows when to forget. If"}, {"start": "00:45:01", "end": "00:45:06", "text": "not for this ability, one could go mad."}, {"start": "00:45:03", "end": "00:45:08", "text": "My memories had been blocked. Still, I"}, {"start": "00:45:06", "end": "00:45:11", "text": "was tense and wanted to cry, but didn't"}, {"start": "00:45:08", "end": "00:45:14", "text": "know why. That day, I went to my waiting"}, {"start": "00:45:11", "end": "00:45:16", "text": "job as usual. The next day, or for a few"}, {"start": "00:45:14", "end": "00:45:17", "text": "days after, I don't really remember, I"}, {"start": "00:45:16", "end": "00:45:19", "text": "gave my cousin back her camera with the"}, {"start": "00:45:17", "end": "00:45:21", "text": "film still inside."}, {"start": "00:45:19", "end": "00:45:24", "text": "I told her what had happened with her"}, {"start": "00:45:21", "end": "00:45:24", "text": "record."}, {"start": "00:45:24", "end": "00:45:29", "text": "This is kind of crazy because again"}, {"start": "00:45:27", "end": "00:45:32", "text": "we're seeing a repeated pattern of"}, {"start": "00:45:29", "end": "00:45:35", "text": "abduction here, especially the sleeping"}, {"start": "00:45:32", "end": "00:45:40", "text": "for a very long time. The groggginess,"}, {"start": "00:45:35", "end": "00:45:45", "text": "the sort of uh sense of dread, although"}, {"start": "00:45:40", "end": "00:45:48", "text": "not knowing where from is quite common."}, {"start": "00:45:45", "end": "00:45:51", "text": "And uh that's you know whether that's"}, {"start": "00:45:48", "end": "00:45:54", "text": "due to what I assume is"}, {"start": "00:45:51", "end": "00:45:56", "text": "this interaction caused it somehow"}, {"start": "00:45:54", "end": "00:45:57", "text": "whether it's the technology or whether"}, {"start": "00:45:56", "end": "00:45:59", "text": "it's his own subconscious sort of"}, {"start": "00:45:57", "end": "00:46:02", "text": "deleting the traumatizing moments. I"}, {"start": "00:45:59", "end": "00:46:05", "text": "think the former uh he sounds like he"}, {"start": "00:46:02", "end": "00:46:06", "text": "thinks it might be the latter."}, {"start": "00:46:05", "end": "00:46:08", "text": "The next couple of days I went to work"}, {"start": "00:46:06", "end": "00:46:10", "text": "as if nothing extraordinary had"}, {"start": "00:46:08", "end": "00:46:12", "text": "happened. Not too long after my cousin"}, {"start": "00:46:10", "end": "00:46:13", "text": "called me over the phone. She sounded a"}, {"start": "00:46:12", "end": "00:46:16", "text": "little upset and told me about the"}, {"start": "00:46:13", "end": "00:46:18", "text": "pictures of El Grand Combo and of some"}, {"start": "00:46:16", "end": "00:46:20", "text": "other pictures."}, {"start": "00:46:18", "end": "00:46:23", "text": "She didn't explain a whole lot and she"}, {"start": "00:46:20", "end": "00:46:24", "text": "asked to come over there. I hung up and"}, {"start": "00:46:23", "end": "00:46:26", "text": "my only thought was that maybe the"}, {"start": "00:46:24", "end": "00:46:28", "text": "pictures didn't come out right. Many"}, {"start": "00:46:26", "end": "00:46:31", "text": "times I had taken pictures before and"}, {"start": "00:46:28", "end": "00:46:33", "text": "cut people's heads off. I went to her"}, {"start": "00:46:31", "end": "00:46:35", "text": "house refusing to hear any criticism on"}, {"start": "00:46:33", "end": "00:46:37", "text": "my abilities as a photographer. She"}, {"start": "00:46:35", "end": "00:46:39", "text": "lived nearby. When I got there, her"}, {"start": "00:46:37", "end": "00:46:43", "text": "husband and kids were with her and they"}, {"start": "00:46:39", "end": "00:46:43", "text": "all looked frightened."}, {"start": "00:46:44", "end": "00:46:50", "text": "\"What is this?\" I asked myself."}, {"start": "00:46:47", "end": "00:46:54", "text": "She showed me the pictures."}, {"start": "00:46:50", "end": "00:46:57", "text": "\"This is El Grand Combo,\" I told her."}, {"start": "00:46:54", "end": "00:47:02", "text": "\"Keep going,\" she said."}, {"start": "00:46:57", "end": "00:47:05", "text": "\"El combo, Elr combo.\" And"}, {"start": "00:47:02", "end": "00:47:08", "text": "it was as if someone had thrown me a"}, {"start": "00:47:05", "end": "00:47:11", "text": "bucket of cold water."}, {"start": "00:47:08", "end": "00:47:14", "text": "My mind couldn't resist anymore."}, {"start": "00:47:11", "end": "00:47:15", "text": "I started to shake"}, {"start": "00:47:14", "end": "00:47:17", "text": "and my cousin and her family got"}, {"start": "00:47:15", "end": "00:47:21", "text": "worried. Who's that man dressed in"}, {"start": "00:47:17", "end": "00:47:23", "text": "black? What are those things?"}, {"start": "00:47:21", "end": "00:47:26", "text": "I couldn't answer her. I couldn't even"}, {"start": "00:47:23", "end": "00:47:29", "text": "speak. I ran out of there, got in my"}, {"start": "00:47:26", "end": "00:47:32", "text": "car, and headed home."}, {"start": "00:47:29", "end": "00:47:35", "text": "I remember then calling me, but I didn't"}, {"start": "00:47:32", "end": "00:47:37", "text": "pay any attention. When I got home, I"}, {"start": "00:47:35", "end": "00:47:40", "text": "ran to the bedroom. Mama got terrified"}, {"start": "00:47:37", "end": "00:47:42", "text": "seeing me in such a hurry and so upset."}, {"start": "00:47:40", "end": "00:47:44", "text": "I locked myself in my room and lay on my"}, {"start": "00:47:42", "end": "00:47:47", "text": "bed in a fetal position with the"}, {"start": "00:47:44", "end": "00:47:50", "text": "pictures in my hands. I stayed like that"}, {"start": "00:47:47", "end": "00:47:52", "text": "for a long time. Mama would knock on my"}, {"start": "00:47:50", "end": "00:47:54", "text": "door, but I didn't answer. So, hold on."}, {"start": "00:47:52", "end": "00:47:56", "text": "He's got photos of the man in black as"}, {"start": "00:47:54", "end": "00:47:59", "text": "well, like the the the the human"}, {"start": "00:47:56", "end": "00:48:02", "text": "extraterrestrial. This is news to me. I"}, {"start": "00:47:59", "end": "00:48:03", "text": "didn't know that. I'm trying to see if"}, {"start": "00:48:02", "end": "00:48:05", "text": "they definitely don't come up on these"}, {"start": "00:48:03", "end": "00:48:09", "text": "pictures."}, {"start": "00:48:05", "end": "00:48:09", "text": "This is incredible."}, {"start": "00:48:09", "end": "00:48:13", "text": "I hear the phone ring. Mama was talking"}, {"start": "00:48:11", "end": "00:48:14", "text": "to my cousin who wanted to know if I'd"}, {"start": "00:48:13", "end": "00:48:17", "text": "gotten home all right. After she hung"}, {"start": "00:48:14", "end": "00:48:18", "text": "up, she went to my bedroom determined to"}, {"start": "00:48:17", "end": "00:48:21", "text": "find out what was going on. I didn't"}, {"start": "00:48:18", "end": "00:48:23", "text": "answer her. I couldn't. I still trembled"}, {"start": "00:48:21", "end": "00:48:25", "text": "uncontrollably. Some nerve below my"}, {"start": "00:48:23", "end": "00:48:27", "text": "right eye started to move on its own. I"}, {"start": "00:48:25", "end": "00:48:30", "text": "heard my grandmother call my aunt who"}, {"start": "00:48:27", "end": "00:48:32", "text": "lives below our house. She called and I"}, {"start": "00:48:30", "end": "00:48:34", "text": "could hear the panic in her voice. Her"}, {"start": "00:48:32", "end": "00:48:36", "text": "daughter, my aunt, came up to see what"}, {"start": "00:48:34", "end": "00:48:38", "text": "was going on. Mama then told her what my"}, {"start": "00:48:36", "end": "00:48:39", "text": "cousin had said. Now both of them were"}, {"start": "00:48:38", "end": "00:48:42", "text": "knocking on my door and telling me,"}, {"start": "00:48:39", "end": "00:48:45", "text": "\"Please come out.\" I just wanted to be"}, {"start": "00:48:42", "end": "00:48:47", "text": "left alone. I did not want to speak. I I"}, {"start": "00:48:45", "end": "00:48:48", "text": "couldn't."}, {"start": "00:48:47", "end": "00:48:52", "text": "wanted to be alone with my horrendous"}, {"start": "00:48:48", "end": "00:48:54", "text": "thoughts. Laying there as I was with my"}, {"start": "00:48:52", "end": "00:48:56", "text": "pictures and my hands and my eyes shut,"}, {"start": "00:48:54", "end": "00:48:59", "text": "I went over what had transpired that"}, {"start": "00:48:56", "end": "00:49:01", "text": "night. I saw it in my mind's eye like a"}, {"start": "00:48:59", "end": "00:49:03", "text": "movie."}, {"start": "00:49:01", "end": "00:49:04", "text": "However, I could only remember that I"}, {"start": "00:49:03", "end": "00:49:06", "text": "left work and that I ran into those"}, {"start": "00:49:04", "end": "00:49:09", "text": "little beings and then fainting. From"}, {"start": "00:49:06", "end": "00:49:11", "text": "then on, up until I woke up in my car in"}, {"start": "00:49:09", "end": "00:49:13", "text": "that other place, I couldn't remember a"}, {"start": "00:49:11", "end": "00:49:15", "text": "thing. Hard as I tried, I couldn't"}, {"start": "00:49:13", "end": "00:49:17", "text": "recall what happened during that period"}, {"start": "00:49:15", "end": "00:49:19", "text": "of time. Dany, one of my younger"}, {"start": "00:49:17", "end": "00:49:21", "text": "cousins, joined the voices outside my"}, {"start": "00:49:19", "end": "00:49:23", "text": "door. I could hear they were worried,"}, {"start": "00:49:21", "end": "00:49:26", "text": "and I also heard someone trying to open"}, {"start": "00:49:23", "end": "00:49:29", "text": "the door. Danny, armed with a piece of"}, {"start": "00:49:26", "end": "00:49:31", "text": "wire, managed to open the door. When"}, {"start": "00:49:29", "end": "00:49:33", "text": "they opened the door, I immediately sat"}, {"start": "00:49:31", "end": "00:49:36", "text": "up. He started to peek through the door,"}, {"start": "00:49:33", "end": "00:49:39", "text": "but when he saw the possessed look on my"}, {"start": "00:49:36", "end": "00:49:41", "text": "face as he later told me he got scared,"}, {"start": "00:49:39", "end": "00:49:44", "text": "I screamed at him to close the door,"}, {"start": "00:49:41", "end": "00:49:46", "text": "which immediately he did."}, {"start": "00:49:44", "end": "00:49:47", "text": "I went back to my original position, but"}, {"start": "00:49:46", "end": "00:49:49", "text": "I could hear them whispering. It wasn't"}, {"start": "00:49:47", "end": "00:49:52", "text": "the right time to talk to them. If I"}, {"start": "00:49:49", "end": "00:49:55", "text": "managed to not go mad, I'd explain"}, {"start": "00:49:52", "end": "00:49:56", "text": "later. At the moment, I only wanted to"}, {"start": "00:49:55", "end": "00:49:59", "text": "think about what happened on the night"}, {"start": "00:49:56", "end": "00:50:00", "text": "of the encounter. Above all, I struggled"}, {"start": "00:49:59", "end": "00:50:02", "text": "to try and remember what had happened"}, {"start": "00:50:00", "end": "00:50:04", "text": "between when I fainted and when I took"}, {"start": "00:50:02", "end": "00:50:07", "text": "the pictures. It was like trying to"}, {"start": "00:50:04", "end": "00:50:09", "text": "remember someone's name, but you can't."}, {"start": "00:50:07", "end": "00:50:12", "text": "Terrible as it was, the limited memory I"}, {"start": "00:50:09", "end": "00:50:14", "text": "had of what transpired, what was worse"}, {"start": "00:50:12", "end": "00:50:17", "text": "was not being able to remember it"}, {"start": "00:50:14", "end": "00:50:17", "text": "completely."}, {"start": "00:50:21", "end": "00:50:25", "text": "Now I'm I'm really intrigued. I want to"}, {"start": "00:50:24", "end": "00:50:28", "text": "know about this other photo and what"}, {"start": "00:50:25", "end": "00:50:31", "text": "happened to it. I heard my cousin's"}, {"start": "00:50:28", "end": "00:50:34", "text": "voice outside, the owner of the camera."}, {"start": "00:50:31", "end": "00:50:36", "text": "While I was lost in my thoughts, she had"}, {"start": "00:50:34", "end": "00:50:38", "text": "also joined the group. Apparently, she"}, {"start": "00:50:36", "end": "00:50:40", "text": "was explaining to them what she knew."}, {"start": "00:50:38", "end": "00:50:43", "text": "They talked amongst themselves, asked"}, {"start": "00:50:40", "end": "00:50:45", "text": "questions, and at times were silent. All"}, {"start": "00:50:43", "end": "00:50:47", "text": "of a sudden, my grandmother started to"}, {"start": "00:50:45", "end": "00:50:49", "text": "cry."}, {"start": "00:50:47", "end": "00:50:50", "text": "That's when my aunt went to my door and"}, {"start": "00:50:49", "end": "00:50:53", "text": "begged me to come out and explain what"}, {"start": "00:50:50", "end": "00:50:55", "text": "was going on. She told me mama was very"}, {"start": "00:50:53", "end": "00:50:58", "text": "upset and to please remember that her"}, {"start": "00:50:55", "end": "00:51:00", "text": "health was very delicate right now."}, {"start": "00:50:58", "end": "00:51:02", "text": "I got up with the intention of going out"}, {"start": "00:51:00", "end": "00:51:03", "text": "to the living room and tell Mama that"}, {"start": "00:51:02", "end": "00:51:05", "text": "everything was all right. but instead"}, {"start": "00:51:03", "end": "00:51:08", "text": "I'd locked the door and went back to"}, {"start": "00:51:05", "end": "00:51:10", "text": "bed. They kept talking and I think they"}, {"start": "00:51:08", "end": "00:51:12", "text": "were also trying to calm down my"}, {"start": "00:51:10", "end": "00:51:14", "text": "grandmother."}, {"start": "00:51:12", "end": "00:51:17", "text": "I seemed as if more of my family had"}, {"start": "00:51:14", "end": "00:51:19", "text": "arrived. I felt as if I had lost touch"}, {"start": "00:51:17", "end": "00:51:20", "text": "with reality. I looked around me and"}, {"start": "00:51:19", "end": "00:51:22", "text": "everything seemed strange. My bed and"}, {"start": "00:51:20", "end": "00:51:25", "text": "all my belongings now felt like things"}, {"start": "00:51:22", "end": "00:51:27", "text": "from the past. It was all like a dream."}, {"start": "00:51:25", "end": "00:51:29", "text": "My reality had fused with something I"}, {"start": "00:51:27", "end": "00:51:31", "text": "never thought could be possible. I"}, {"start": "00:51:29", "end": "00:51:34", "text": "closed my windows again and it got dark"}, {"start": "00:51:31", "end": "00:51:35", "text": "again despite the daylight outside. I"}, {"start": "00:51:34", "end": "00:51:37", "text": "took my shoes and clothes off and"}, {"start": "00:51:35", "end": "00:51:40", "text": "decided it was probably a good idea to"}, {"start": "00:51:37", "end": "00:51:42", "text": "go to sleep before my brain exploded."}, {"start": "00:51:40", "end": "00:51:44", "text": "Later, I found out that during that day,"}, {"start": "00:51:42", "end": "00:51:46", "text": "mama's house was packed. Everyone had"}, {"start": "00:51:44", "end": "00:51:48", "text": "their own version of what happened. They"}, {"start": "00:51:46", "end": "00:51:51", "text": "all desperately wanted to see the"}, {"start": "00:51:48", "end": "00:51:53", "text": "pictures. My cousin described uh to them"}, {"start": "00:51:51", "end": "00:51:55", "text": "what she and her family had seen, but"}, {"start": "00:51:53", "end": "00:51:57", "text": "none were satisfied."}, {"start": "00:51:55", "end": "00:51:59", "text": "Mama had settled down and everyone"}, {"start": "00:51:57", "end": "00:52:01", "text": "stayed pretty much till the evening."}, {"start": "00:51:59", "end": "00:52:03", "text": "They cooked, ate, and drank coffee. The"}, {"start": "00:52:01", "end": "00:52:06", "text": "topic of conversation didn't change. At"}, {"start": "00:52:03", "end": "00:52:08", "text": "times, they looked at my door intrigued."}, {"start": "00:52:06", "end": "00:52:10", "text": "I also found out that some had placed"}, {"start": "00:52:08", "end": "00:52:13", "text": "their heads to the door to try and hear"}, {"start": "00:52:10", "end": "00:52:15", "text": "anything. Of course, they heard nothing."}, {"start": "00:52:13", "end": "00:52:17", "text": "When they were all too tired and sleepy,"}, {"start": "00:52:15", "end": "00:52:20", "text": "they left, but agreed to come back the"}, {"start": "00:52:17", "end": "00:52:20", "text": "next day in the afternoon."}, {"start": "00:52:21", "end": "00:52:25", "text": "That morning, I had my first nightmare."}, {"start": "00:52:24", "end": "00:52:28", "text": "So, I guess this is when the memories"}, {"start": "00:52:25", "end": "00:52:30", "text": "begin to unlock, I assume."}, {"start": "00:52:28", "end": "00:52:32", "text": "I was walking down a road similar to"}, {"start": "00:52:30", "end": "00:52:34", "text": "Labahura."}, {"start": "00:52:32", "end": "00:52:36", "text": "It was nighttime and I was in my waiter"}, {"start": "00:52:34", "end": "00:52:38", "text": "uniform, white t-shirt, black pants, and"}, {"start": "00:52:36", "end": "00:52:40", "text": "black shoes. The moonlight illuminated"}, {"start": "00:52:38", "end": "00:52:42", "text": "the misty road. There were trees"}, {"start": "00:52:40", "end": "00:52:44", "text": "alongside it. The wide road seemed to go"}, {"start": "00:52:42", "end": "00:52:47", "text": "on without end. I wasn't scared despite"}, {"start": "00:52:44", "end": "00:52:50", "text": "my circumstances. I then felt someone"}, {"start": "00:52:47", "end": "00:52:53", "text": "walking behind me, and I quickly turned."}, {"start": "00:52:50", "end": "00:52:56", "text": "There was no one."}, {"start": "00:52:53", "end": "00:52:59", "text": "When I turned back to keep walking, I"}, {"start": "00:52:56", "end": "00:53:02", "text": "noticed feet."}, {"start": "00:52:59", "end": "00:53:05", "text": "Standing right there was the little one."}, {"start": "00:53:02", "end": "00:53:07", "text": "He had his hand raised as if to touch"}, {"start": "00:53:05", "end": "00:53:09", "text": "me. Before he could do it, I started to"}, {"start": "00:53:07", "end": "00:53:10", "text": "run in the opposite direction. I looked"}, {"start": "00:53:09", "end": "00:53:12", "text": "over my shoulder and saw the little man"}, {"start": "00:53:10", "end": "00:53:15", "text": "with a big deformed head was following"}, {"start": "00:53:12", "end": "00:53:18", "text": "me. At times, he caught up with me and"}, {"start": "00:53:15", "end": "00:53:19", "text": "pulled me by my shirt. When I felt him,"}, {"start": "00:53:18", "end": "00:53:21", "text": "I ran faster and was able to free"}, {"start": "00:53:19", "end": "00:53:23", "text": "myself."}, {"start": "00:53:21", "end": "00:53:25", "text": "During this nightmare, I ran and"}, {"start": "00:53:23", "end": "00:53:27", "text": "screamed through the fog like my life"}, {"start": "00:53:25", "end": "00:53:30", "text": "was in danger. Little man again grabbed"}, {"start": "00:53:27", "end": "00:53:32", "text": "me and I again escaped. I woke up from I"}, {"start": "00:53:30", "end": "00:53:35", "text": "woke up from this screaming."}, {"start": "00:53:32", "end": "00:53:37", "text": "I yelled that he was going to get me."}, {"start": "00:53:35", "end": "00:53:40", "text": "This was the first of many tormentfilled"}, {"start": "00:53:37", "end": "00:53:42", "text": "nights. Mama knocked on the door scared"}, {"start": "00:53:40", "end": "00:53:44", "text": "and asked me what was happening. I got"}, {"start": "00:53:42", "end": "00:53:47", "text": "up covered in sweat, turned on the"}, {"start": "00:53:44", "end": "00:53:48", "text": "light, and opened the door. Mama was in"}, {"start": "00:53:47", "end": "00:53:51", "text": "her night gown and I noticed she looked"}, {"start": "00:53:48", "end": "00:53:53", "text": "extremely worried. When I saw her, I"}, {"start": "00:53:51", "end": "00:53:56", "text": "rushed to her arms like a child and"}, {"start": "00:53:53", "end": "00:53:57", "text": "started to cry. She helped me get in my"}, {"start": "00:53:56", "end": "00:54:00", "text": "bed and asked me what was happening, but"}, {"start": "00:53:57", "end": "00:54:02", "text": "I couldn't tell her. I only said I had a"}, {"start": "00:54:00", "end": "00:54:04", "text": "nightmare. I calmed down and then she"}, {"start": "00:54:02", "end": "00:54:06", "text": "asked me if the nightmare had something"}, {"start": "00:54:04", "end": "00:54:08", "text": "to do with the pictures."}, {"start": "00:54:06", "end": "00:54:10", "text": "I nodded."}, {"start": "00:54:08", "end": "00:54:13", "text": "Meanwhile, someone knocked on the front"}, {"start": "00:54:10", "end": "00:54:15", "text": "door and Mama went to see who it was. It"}, {"start": "00:54:13", "end": "00:54:18", "text": "was my aunt and one of her sons, the"}, {"start": "00:54:15", "end": "00:54:19", "text": "ones who lived downstairs."}, {"start": "00:54:18", "end": "00:54:21", "text": "They talked with mama for a while and"}, {"start": "00:54:19", "end": "00:54:24", "text": "then entered my room. \"Are you all"}, {"start": "00:54:21", "end": "00:54:26", "text": "right?\" they asked. I told them I was"}, {"start": "00:54:24", "end": "00:54:28", "text": "and that I only wanted to go back to"}, {"start": "00:54:26", "end": "00:54:30", "text": "sleep. I apologized to them for waking"}, {"start": "00:54:28", "end": "00:54:32", "text": "them up in the middle of the night. My"}, {"start": "00:54:30", "end": "00:54:35", "text": "cousin Danny looked at me scared. He was"}, {"start": "00:54:32", "end": "00:54:37", "text": "pale. Mama and my aunt gave me a kiss"}, {"start": "00:54:35", "end": "00:54:39", "text": "and Danny said good night. They left my"}, {"start": "00:54:37", "end": "00:54:41", "text": "room and I fell asleep listening to them"}, {"start": "00:54:39", "end": "00:54:43", "text": "whisper behind my door. I didn't have"}, {"start": "00:54:41", "end": "00:54:46", "text": "any other nightmare that night that I"}, {"start": "00:54:43", "end": "00:54:49", "text": "remember, but these turned into"}, {"start": "00:54:46", "end": "00:54:53", "text": "something so consecutive that it nearly"}, {"start": "00:54:49", "end": "00:54:53", "text": "destroyed my family."}, {"start": "00:54:56", "end": "00:54:59", "text": "Wild."}, {"start": "00:55:00", "end": "00:55:07", "text": "I think we've got one one more chapter"}, {"start": "00:55:04", "end": "00:55:10", "text": "for today. I I definitely want to see"}, {"start": "00:55:07", "end": "00:55:12", "text": "what happens to this photo."}, {"start": "00:55:10", "end": "00:55:14", "text": "This is uh really compelling. How are"}, {"start": "00:55:12", "end": "00:55:17", "text": "you guys liking this story so far? For"}, {"start": "00:55:14", "end": "00:55:18", "text": "someone again I repeat I repeated this"}, {"start": "00:55:17", "end": "00:55:22", "text": "in the first video but for someone who"}, {"start": "00:55:18", "end": "00:55:24", "text": "claims he is not a writer Amorei has"}, {"start": "00:55:22", "end": "00:55:28", "text": "completely"}, {"start": "00:55:24", "end": "00:55:31", "text": "enthralled me in his story. Um"}, {"start": "00:55:28", "end": "00:55:34", "text": "this is this is great. I like this."}, {"start": "00:55:31", "end": "00:55:37", "text": "Terrifying as it is, it is definitely uh"}, {"start": "00:55:34", "end": "00:55:39", "text": "a good story."}, {"start": "00:55:37", "end": "00:55:41", "text": "Chapter 7. When I woke up, my mom had"}, {"start": "00:55:39", "end": "00:55:42", "text": "already made coffee. I could smell it"}, {"start": "00:55:41", "end": "00:55:44", "text": "from my bed. I first thought of the"}, {"start": "00:55:42", "end": "00:55:46", "text": "coffee and then of my nightmare. The one"}, {"start": "00:55:44", "end": "00:55:48", "text": "I lived and the one I had the previous"}, {"start": "00:55:46", "end": "00:55:51", "text": "night. All of a sudden, I had a glimmer"}, {"start": "00:55:48", "end": "00:55:53", "text": "of hope. Thought to myself that maybe"}, {"start": "00:55:51", "end": "00:55:55", "text": "everything, including my cousin's phone"}, {"start": "00:55:53", "end": "00:55:58", "text": "call, had all been a nightmare produced"}, {"start": "00:55:55", "end": "00:56:01", "text": "by my subconscious."}, {"start": "00:55:58", "end": "00:56:04", "text": "There was no phone call and no pictures."}, {"start": "00:56:01", "end": "00:56:06", "text": "I got up and felt a little happy. I"}, {"start": "00:56:04", "end": "00:56:09", "text": "didn't see the pictures anywhere around."}, {"start": "00:56:06", "end": "00:56:11", "text": "I lifted up my mattress though and there"}, {"start": "00:56:09", "end": "00:56:14", "text": "they were. In an instant, I got"}, {"start": "00:56:11", "end": "00:56:16", "text": "depressed. I left the pictures there and"}, {"start": "00:56:14", "end": "00:56:18", "text": "went to the bathroom. As I drank my cup"}, {"start": "00:56:16", "end": "00:56:20", "text": "of coffee, mama bombarded me with a"}, {"start": "00:56:18", "end": "00:56:22", "text": "thousands of questions. She asked if I"}, {"start": "00:56:20", "end": "00:56:23", "text": "wanted to talk to her about what had"}, {"start": "00:56:22", "end": "00:56:25", "text": "happened the day before. I didn't"}, {"start": "00:56:23", "end": "00:56:27", "text": "answer, so she kept asking questions."}, {"start": "00:56:25", "end": "00:56:30", "text": "Son, what are those pictures your cousin"}, {"start": "00:56:27", "end": "00:56:32", "text": "is talking about? Without answering her,"}, {"start": "00:56:30", "end": "00:56:34", "text": "I put my coffee on the table and went to"}, {"start": "00:56:32", "end": "00:56:39", "text": "get the pictures. When I showed them to"}, {"start": "00:56:34", "end": "00:56:41", "text": "her, she was mute and had to sit down."}, {"start": "00:56:39", "end": "00:56:44", "text": "What is this? Where were these taken"}, {"start": "00:56:41", "end": "00:56:46", "text": "when? She asked. I looked at her"}, {"start": "00:56:44", "end": "00:56:49", "text": "straight in the eyes and I told her it"}, {"start": "00:56:46", "end": "00:56:52", "text": "was the night in which Mother's Day was"}, {"start": "00:56:49", "end": "00:56:54", "text": "celebrated at Casablanca."}, {"start": "00:56:52", "end": "00:56:56", "text": "Who is this man dressed in black? Told"}, {"start": "00:56:54", "end": "00:56:58", "text": "her I didn't know. And what about the"}, {"start": "00:56:56", "end": "00:57:02", "text": "big-headed doll?"}, {"start": "00:56:58", "end": "00:57:05", "text": "I told her I didn't think it was a doll."}, {"start": "00:57:02", "end": "00:57:07", "text": "I felt sad for my grandmother. In her"}, {"start": "00:57:05", "end": "00:57:09", "text": "face, I saw a lot of confusion and"}, {"start": "00:57:07", "end": "00:57:11", "text": "denial of what she was seeing in these"}, {"start": "00:57:09", "end": "00:57:12", "text": "pictures."}, {"start": "00:57:11", "end": "00:57:14", "text": "She told me that the plane in the"}, {"start": "00:57:12", "end": "00:57:17", "text": "pictures was very much like the ones"}, {"start": "00:57:14", "end": "00:57:18", "text": "seen in the area"}, {"start": "00:57:17", "end": "00:57:22", "text": "that seemed they're going to tear the"}, {"start": "00:57:18", "end": "00:57:24", "text": "roof off when they flew by. And what is"}, {"start": "00:57:22", "end": "00:57:26", "text": "that other thing in with the plane? I"}, {"start": "00:57:24", "end": "00:57:27", "text": "told her I didn't know, but it looked"}, {"start": "00:57:26", "end": "00:57:29", "text": "like one of those flying saucers as some"}, {"start": "00:57:27", "end": "00:57:31", "text": "people talk about. Okay, folks, hold on"}, {"start": "00:57:29", "end": "00:57:32", "text": "a second. We got a picture of a gray as"}, {"start": "00:57:31", "end": "00:57:34", "text": "well."}, {"start": "00:57:32", "end": "00:57:38", "text": "We need to know what happens to these"}, {"start": "00:57:34", "end": "00:57:38", "text": "pictures. This is incredible."}, {"start": "00:57:39", "end": "00:57:44", "text": "While mama was looking at the pictures,"}, {"start": "00:57:40", "end": "00:57:45", "text": "my aunt slowly came up the stairs."}, {"start": "00:57:44", "end": "00:57:47", "text": "Come and take a look at this, my"}, {"start": "00:57:45", "end": "00:57:49", "text": "grandmother said. When she was handed"}, {"start": "00:57:47", "end": "00:57:51", "text": "the pictures, she too had to sit down. I"}, {"start": "00:57:49", "end": "00:57:53", "text": "kept drinking my coffee, and it was mama"}, {"start": "00:57:51", "end": "00:57:54", "text": "who answered her questions. My cousin"}, {"start": "00:57:53", "end": "00:57:56", "text": "was next to come up, and when they"}, {"start": "00:57:54", "end": "00:57:58", "text": "showed him the pictures, his jaw"}, {"start": "00:57:56", "end": "00:58:00", "text": "dropped. Nervously, he looked at mama"}, {"start": "00:57:58", "end": "00:58:03", "text": "and my aunt. But you wouldn't look at me"}, {"start": "00:58:00", "end": "00:58:05", "text": "or ask me any questions. I went into the"}, {"start": "00:58:03", "end": "00:58:06", "text": "living room and mama and my aunt came"}, {"start": "00:58:05", "end": "00:58:08", "text": "with me. Danny stayed in the kitchen and"}, {"start": "00:58:06", "end": "00:58:10", "text": "placed the pictures face down on the"}, {"start": "00:58:08", "end": "00:58:13", "text": "table. They both insisted I tell them"}, {"start": "00:58:10", "end": "00:58:15", "text": "everything that happened. After I told"}, {"start": "00:58:13", "end": "00:58:18", "text": "them what I remembered, we all became"}, {"start": "00:58:15", "end": "00:58:20", "text": "silent. None of us spoke for a while."}, {"start": "00:58:18", "end": "00:58:22", "text": "They didn't know what to say to me."}, {"start": "00:58:20", "end": "00:58:24", "text": "Danny broke the silence by asking me"}, {"start": "00:58:22", "end": "00:58:26", "text": "what had happened between when I lost"}, {"start": "00:58:24", "end": "00:58:28", "text": "consciousness in Labahura and when I"}, {"start": "00:58:26", "end": "00:58:30", "text": "woke in that other place where I took"}, {"start": "00:58:28", "end": "00:58:32", "text": "those pictures."}, {"start": "00:58:30", "end": "00:58:34", "text": "I told them that as incredible as it"}, {"start": "00:58:32", "end": "00:58:37", "text": "might seem, I couldn't remember. My mind"}, {"start": "00:58:34", "end": "00:58:40", "text": "was blank. I told them that no matter"}, {"start": "00:58:37", "end": "00:58:41", "text": "how hard I tried, I could not remember."}, {"start": "00:58:40", "end": "00:58:43", "text": "Not knowing what had happened to you in"}, {"start": "00:58:41", "end": "00:58:45", "text": "a time lapse of at least 2 and 1/2 hours"}, {"start": "00:58:43", "end": "00:58:48", "text": "is frustrating and enough to start"}, {"start": "00:58:45", "end": "00:58:49", "text": "doubting yourself. My aunt asked what I"}, {"start": "00:58:48", "end": "00:58:52", "text": "plan to do."}, {"start": "00:58:49", "end": "00:58:54", "text": "I don't know, I said. I looked at them"}, {"start": "00:58:52", "end": "00:58:56", "text": "as if I was in a dream. I felt"}, {"start": "00:58:54", "end": "00:58:59", "text": "everything around me was not real. I was"}, {"start": "00:58:56", "end": "00:59:01", "text": "dazed and very confused. They wanted"}, {"start": "00:58:59", "end": "00:59:04", "text": "answers, but I didn't have them. I"}, {"start": "00:59:01", "end": "00:59:06", "text": "myself wanted answers."}, {"start": "00:59:04", "end": "00:59:08", "text": "The thought of going back to sleep, of"}, {"start": "00:59:06", "end": "00:59:11", "text": "escaping came back to me. I asked to be"}, {"start": "00:59:08", "end": "00:59:13", "text": "excused, took the pictures, and went"}, {"start": "00:59:11", "end": "00:59:14", "text": "back to my room."}, {"start": "00:59:13", "end": "00:59:17", "text": "Mama asked me if I was going to work"}, {"start": "00:59:14", "end": "00:59:19", "text": "that day, and I said no. I asked her to"}, {"start": "00:59:17", "end": "00:59:21", "text": "call work and to tell them I wasn't"}, {"start": "00:59:19", "end": "00:59:24", "text": "feeling well. I looked at the pictures"}, {"start": "00:59:21", "end": "00:59:27", "text": "for a long time as I lay on my bed. I"}, {"start": "00:59:24", "end": "00:59:27", "text": "cried in silence."}, {"start": "00:59:30", "end": "00:59:36", "text": "I separated the pictures from the ones"}, {"start": "00:59:33", "end": "00:59:39", "text": "from the damn Cambo so that I could give"}, {"start": "00:59:36", "end": "00:59:41", "text": "those back to my cousin. I put the other"}, {"start": "00:59:39", "end": "00:59:43", "text": "ones below my mattress."}, {"start": "00:59:41", "end": "00:59:45", "text": "Everyone was behind my door, lost in"}, {"start": "00:59:43", "end": "00:59:47", "text": "their own thoughts. Meanwhile, I rolled"}, {"start": "00:59:45", "end": "00:59:50", "text": "up in a sheet of inexistence that"}, {"start": "00:59:47", "end": "00:59:52", "text": "accompanied me."}, {"start": "00:59:50", "end": "00:59:54", "text": "That afternoon, I woke up hungry. The"}, {"start": "00:59:52", "end": "00:59:55", "text": "first thing on my mind, however, was not"}, {"start": "00:59:54", "end": "00:59:57", "text": "the food, but the pictures and my"}, {"start": "00:59:55", "end": "00:59:59", "text": "experience of that morning. It is still"}, {"start": "00:59:57", "end": "01:00:01", "text": "the first thing I think of when I wake"}, {"start": "00:59:59", "end": "01:00:03", "text": "up. I heard the voices, so I got close"}, {"start": "01:00:01", "end": "01:00:05", "text": "to the door to try and make them out. It"}, {"start": "01:00:03", "end": "01:00:07", "text": "was my family who'd gotten together in"}, {"start": "01:00:05", "end": "01:00:08", "text": "the kitchen and living room. I had to go"}, {"start": "01:00:07", "end": "01:00:11", "text": "to the bathroom really bad, but I didn't"}, {"start": "01:00:08", "end": "01:00:13", "text": "want to face them. I wasn't in the mood"}, {"start": "01:00:11", "end": "01:00:15", "text": "to answer all their questions. I waited"}, {"start": "01:00:13", "end": "01:00:17", "text": "as much as I could. They were all"}, {"start": "01:00:15", "end": "01:00:19", "text": "talking when I opened the door. They"}, {"start": "01:00:17", "end": "01:00:21", "text": "stopped and looked at me. They looked at"}, {"start": "01:00:19", "end": "01:00:23", "text": "me like I was from another world. I"}, {"start": "01:00:21", "end": "01:00:25", "text": "lowered my head and without saying a"}, {"start": "01:00:23", "end": "01:00:26", "text": "word, I went to the bathroom. I didn't"}, {"start": "01:00:25", "end": "01:00:28", "text": "hear them talk while I was in there, but"}, {"start": "01:00:26", "end": "01:00:31", "text": "when I got out, they all looked at me"}, {"start": "01:00:28", "end": "01:00:34", "text": "again in a very strange manner. Mom, I'm"}, {"start": "01:00:31", "end": "01:00:36", "text": "hungry. It's the first thing I said."}, {"start": "01:00:34", "end": "01:00:38", "text": "After breaking the ice, they all asked"}, {"start": "01:00:36", "end": "01:00:40", "text": "me how I was feeling. I told them that I"}, {"start": "01:00:38", "end": "01:00:41", "text": "was all right, but still a little"}, {"start": "01:00:40", "end": "01:00:43", "text": "confused."}, {"start": "01:00:41", "end": "01:00:45", "text": "Mama and some of my aunts warmed up some"}, {"start": "01:00:43", "end": "01:00:47", "text": "food and my cousins accompanied me to"}, {"start": "01:00:45", "end": "01:00:48", "text": "the living room."}, {"start": "01:00:47", "end": "01:00:50", "text": "The strange thing was that they were"}, {"start": "01:00:48", "end": "01:00:52", "text": "treating me like I was handicapped, as"}, {"start": "01:00:50", "end": "01:00:54", "text": "if I couldn't walk and held me by my"}, {"start": "01:00:52", "end": "01:00:56", "text": "arms. Truth be told, I was feeling"}, {"start": "01:00:54", "end": "01:00:59", "text": "pretty disoriented and a little dizzy,"}, {"start": "01:00:56", "end": "01:01:02", "text": "but maybe it was just that I was hungry."}, {"start": "01:00:59", "end": "01:01:04", "text": "I noticed they were all anxious. They"}, {"start": "01:01:02", "end": "01:01:05", "text": "wanted to hear about what had happened."}, {"start": "01:01:04", "end": "01:01:07", "text": "One of my cousins started the"}, {"start": "01:01:05", "end": "01:01:09", "text": "interrogation in a very inappropriate"}, {"start": "01:01:07", "end": "01:01:11", "text": "manner and the others followed. They"}, {"start": "01:01:09", "end": "01:01:13", "text": "asked me everything and then some. The"}, {"start": "01:01:11", "end": "01:01:14", "text": "one who started it said he wanted to see"}, {"start": "01:01:13", "end": "01:01:16", "text": "the pictures. I told him where to find"}, {"start": "01:01:14", "end": "01:01:19", "text": "them and I asked him to bring the ones"}, {"start": "01:01:16", "end": "01:01:21", "text": "of Elran combo so that I could give them"}, {"start": "01:01:19", "end": "01:01:24", "text": "to my cousin. When he came back,"}, {"start": "01:01:21", "end": "01:01:25", "text": "everyone gathered around him. They"}, {"start": "01:01:24", "end": "01:01:29", "text": "passed the pictures down before my eyes."}, {"start": "01:01:25", "end": "01:01:31", "text": "They all got a little older."}, {"start": "01:01:29", "end": "01:01:33", "text": "They passed the pictures down and before"}, {"start": "01:01:31", "end": "01:01:38", "text": "my eyes they all got a little older."}, {"start": "01:01:33", "end": "01:01:38", "text": "Wow, what a sentence."}, {"start": "01:01:40", "end": "01:01:43", "text": "For a lot of them, what they had"}, {"start": "01:01:42", "end": "01:01:47", "text": "previously thought about things in life"}, {"start": "01:01:43", "end": "01:01:49", "text": "had now changed. For my younger cousins,"}, {"start": "01:01:47", "end": "01:01:51", "text": "this was something cool and hip,"}, {"start": "01:01:49", "end": "01:01:54", "text": "awesome. My relatives little kids asked"}, {"start": "01:01:51", "end": "01:01:58", "text": "me if I'd seen an ET in his ship."}, {"start": "01:01:54", "end": "01:02:01", "text": "Their parents told them to be quiet."}, {"start": "01:01:58", "end": "01:02:02", "text": "The olders were lost in their thoughts."}, {"start": "01:02:01", "end": "01:02:05", "text": "Mama brought my food and told them to"}, {"start": "01:02:02", "end": "01:02:06", "text": "leave me alone."}, {"start": "01:02:05", "end": "01:02:08", "text": "When I got up to go eat, they all"}, {"start": "01:02:06", "end": "01:02:09", "text": "offered me help in getting to the"}, {"start": "01:02:08", "end": "01:02:11", "text": "kitchen. I thanked them, but I told them"}, {"start": "01:02:09", "end": "01:02:14", "text": "that I could make it on my own. I didn't"}, {"start": "01:02:11", "end": "01:02:15", "text": "like being treated that way, like I was"}, {"start": "01:02:14", "end": "01:02:17", "text": "sick or something. I was still thankful"}, {"start": "01:02:15", "end": "01:02:19", "text": "that they wanted to help, though. I"}, {"start": "01:02:17", "end": "01:02:20", "text": "couldn't eat in peace, however. They"}, {"start": "01:02:19", "end": "01:02:22", "text": "shot at me with questions one after"}, {"start": "01:02:20", "end": "01:02:24", "text": "another. Even my grandmother, who had"}, {"start": "01:02:22", "end": "01:02:27", "text": "asked them to leave me alone, had now"}, {"start": "01:02:24", "end": "01:02:29", "text": "joined them. I told them to knock"}, {"start": "01:02:27", "end": "01:02:31", "text": "themselves out because after they were"}, {"start": "01:02:29", "end": "01:02:33", "text": "done and satisfied, I wasn't going to"}, {"start": "01:02:31", "end": "01:02:35", "text": "repeat anything. My uncles, aunts,"}, {"start": "01:02:33", "end": "01:02:37", "text": "cousins, and grandmother came up with"}, {"start": "01:02:35", "end": "01:02:40", "text": "their own theories. They then started to"}, {"start": "01:02:37", "end": "01:02:41", "text": "argue amongst each other. Each of them"}, {"start": "01:02:40", "end": "01:02:44", "text": "thought that their theory of what had"}, {"start": "01:02:41", "end": "01:02:47", "text": "happened to me was the best. I saw them"}, {"start": "01:02:44", "end": "01:02:50", "text": "and heard them, but it it was if I"}, {"start": "01:02:47", "end": "01:02:51", "text": "wasn't there. My mind was wandering in"}, {"start": "01:02:50", "end": "01:02:54", "text": "its own theories and conclusions, all"}, {"start": "01:02:51", "end": "01:02:58", "text": "the while trying to recall those lost"}, {"start": "01:02:54", "end": "01:03:00", "text": "memories for which I had no explanation."}, {"start": "01:02:58", "end": "01:03:02", "text": "That night, I received a phone call from"}, {"start": "01:03:00", "end": "01:03:05", "text": "my father who lived on the east side of"}, {"start": "01:03:02", "end": "01:03:08", "text": "Puerto Rico. More family had gathered"}, {"start": "01:03:05", "end": "01:03:11", "text": "home, so by the time he called, the"}, {"start": "01:03:08", "end": "01:03:13", "text": "house was packed again. They all went"}, {"start": "01:03:11", "end": "01:03:15", "text": "silent to try and hear the conversation,"}, {"start": "01:03:13", "end": "01:03:18", "text": "or at least my part of it. They already"}, {"start": "01:03:15", "end": "01:03:21", "text": "called him, so he was already quite up"}, {"start": "01:03:18", "end": "01:03:21", "text": "to speed."}, {"start": "01:03:22", "end": "01:03:26", "text": "He told him that he thought it was all"}, {"start": "01:03:24", "end": "01:03:28", "text": "the work of the devil."}, {"start": "01:03:26", "end": "01:03:30", "text": "My father is part of the Jehovah"}, {"start": "01:03:28", "end": "01:03:33", "text": "Witnesses. I grew up among them. So"}, {"start": "01:03:30", "end": "01:03:35", "text": "maybe that's why what my father was"}, {"start": "01:03:33", "end": "01:03:38", "text": "telling made sense. He said that Satan"}, {"start": "01:03:35", "end": "01:03:40", "text": "had the power to create UFOs and their"}, {"start": "01:03:38", "end": "01:03:42", "text": "crews and everything else having to do"}, {"start": "01:03:40", "end": "01:03:44", "text": "with the phenomenon."}, {"start": "01:03:42", "end": "01:03:47", "text": "He added that Lucifer was capable of"}, {"start": "01:03:44", "end": "01:03:48", "text": "anything to confuse humanity and that"}, {"start": "01:03:47", "end": "01:03:51", "text": "those creatures were demons and the"}, {"start": "01:03:48", "end": "01:03:52", "text": "craft was their creation. He told me"}, {"start": "01:03:51", "end": "01:03:55", "text": "that they were capable of taking any"}, {"start": "01:03:52", "end": "01:03:57", "text": "physical form they wished. This I didn't"}, {"start": "01:03:55", "end": "01:04:00", "text": "refute, for I knew well, according to"}, {"start": "01:03:57", "end": "01:04:02", "text": "what I had learned when I was a child,"}, {"start": "01:04:00", "end": "01:04:04", "text": "that this could be possible. My father"}, {"start": "01:04:02", "end": "01:04:06", "text": "advised me to forget about the matter,"}, {"start": "01:04:04", "end": "01:04:07", "text": "put away the pictures, and to spend more"}, {"start": "01:04:06", "end": "01:04:09", "text": "time reading the Bible instead of"}, {"start": "01:04:07", "end": "01:04:11", "text": "wasting my time with the issue. I was"}, {"start": "01:04:09", "end": "01:04:13", "text": "thinking that maybe he was right. But"}, {"start": "01:04:11", "end": "01:04:16", "text": "the time I hung up, my doubts had"}, {"start": "01:04:13", "end": "01:04:18", "text": "started to surface again. By the time I"}, {"start": "01:04:16", "end": "01:04:21", "text": "hung up, my doubts started to surface"}, {"start": "01:04:18", "end": "01:04:24", "text": "again."}, {"start": "01:04:21", "end": "01:04:26", "text": "My family asked what he'd told me after"}, {"start": "01:04:24", "end": "01:04:29", "text": "I told them they said they didn't agree."}, {"start": "01:04:26", "end": "01:04:33", "text": "Now I didn't know what to think."}, {"start": "01:04:29", "end": "01:04:35", "text": "What in all truth had really happened."}, {"start": "01:04:33", "end": "01:04:38", "text": "I was only partially conscious of what"}, {"start": "01:04:35", "end": "01:04:40", "text": "had happened to me. At last, my family"}, {"start": "01:04:38", "end": "01:04:42", "text": "went away, leaving me alone with mama."}, {"start": "01:04:40", "end": "01:04:44", "text": "We started getting ready to go to bed,"}, {"start": "01:04:42", "end": "01:04:46", "text": "so we closed the house and I gave mama a"}, {"start": "01:04:44", "end": "01:04:49", "text": "kiss good night. locked myself in my"}, {"start": "01:04:46", "end": "01:04:51", "text": "room where the windows were still"}, {"start": "01:04:49", "end": "01:04:54", "text": "closed. I grabbed a Bible and started to"}, {"start": "01:04:51", "end": "01:04:56", "text": "read on the first page I opened it to. I"}, {"start": "01:04:54", "end": "01:04:58", "text": "read for a while on my bed until sleep"}, {"start": "01:04:56", "end": "01:05:00", "text": "overcame me. Before I turned off the"}, {"start": "01:04:58", "end": "01:05:04", "text": "light, I looked at the pictures one more"}, {"start": "01:05:00", "end": "01:05:07", "text": "time. I finally turned off the light and"}, {"start": "01:05:04", "end": "01:05:08", "text": "went to sleep in an instant."}, {"start": "01:05:07", "end": "01:05:12", "text": "I'm walking down a road much like"}, {"start": "01:05:08", "end": "01:05:15", "text": "Labashura. Labura Labura dressed in my"}, {"start": "01:05:12", "end": "01:05:17", "text": "uniform. It's night and he almost grabs"}, {"start": "01:05:15", "end": "01:05:20", "text": "me. He pulls me by the shirt. I run and"}, {"start": "01:05:17", "end": "01:05:23", "text": "run screaming. I wake up screaming but"}, {"start": "01:05:20", "end": "01:05:25", "text": "haven't realized it's just a nightmare."}, {"start": "01:05:23", "end": "01:05:29", "text": "The knocks on my door brought me back. I"}, {"start": "01:05:25", "end": "01:05:31", "text": "hear mama calling and I opened it."}, {"start": "01:05:29", "end": "01:05:34", "text": "What's wrong? I tell her about my"}, {"start": "01:05:31", "end": "01:05:36", "text": "nightmare. My aunt and her son knocked"}, {"start": "01:05:34", "end": "01:05:41", "text": "on the front door and grandmother let"}, {"start": "01:05:36", "end": "01:05:42", "text": "them in again. I heard my aunt ask mama."}, {"start": "01:05:41", "end": "01:05:44", "text": "They came to my room and tried to calm"}, {"start": "01:05:42", "end": "01:05:45", "text": "me down. I described to them the"}, {"start": "01:05:44", "end": "01:05:48", "text": "nightmare and they stayed with me for a"}, {"start": "01:05:45", "end": "01:05:50", "text": "while. They told me to try and think of"}, {"start": "01:05:48", "end": "01:05:52", "text": "something else."}, {"start": "01:05:50", "end": "01:05:54", "text": "That remembering that would just do me"}, {"start": "01:05:52", "end": "01:05:56", "text": "harm. That was easy for them to say but"}, {"start": "01:05:54", "end": "01:06:00", "text": "very difficult for me to do. I could not"}, {"start": "01:05:56", "end": "01:06:02", "text": "think of anything else."}, {"start": "01:06:00", "end": "01:06:04", "text": "This was a recurrent nightmare for a"}, {"start": "01:06:02", "end": "01:06:07", "text": "long time. Though I had others, this was"}, {"start": "01:06:04", "end": "01:06:09", "text": "the predominant one. Not knowing why, I"}, {"start": "01:06:07", "end": "01:06:11", "text": "dreamt of destruction, earthquakes, and"}, {"start": "01:06:09", "end": "01:06:13", "text": "all kinds of disasters."}, {"start": "01:06:11", "end": "01:06:15", "text": "In another one of these nightmares, I"}, {"start": "01:06:13", "end": "01:06:17", "text": "saw a house floating on the sea like a"}, {"start": "01:06:15", "end": "01:06:20", "text": "houseboat and going up and down the big"}, {"start": "01:06:17", "end": "01:06:22", "text": "waves until it disappeared."}, {"start": "01:06:20", "end": "01:06:23", "text": "I always woke up from these nightmares,"}, {"start": "01:06:22", "end": "01:06:25", "text": "and therefore, I would wake up everyone"}, {"start": "01:06:23", "end": "01:06:27", "text": "in the house and sometimes some of the"}, {"start": "01:06:25", "end": "01:06:30", "text": "neighbors, though I was always met with"}, {"start": "01:06:27", "end": "01:06:31", "text": "compassion and understanding, I know"}, {"start": "01:06:30", "end": "01:06:33", "text": "they were starting to lose their"}, {"start": "01:06:31", "end": "01:06:34", "text": "patience."}, {"start": "01:06:33", "end": "01:06:36", "text": "I still worked at Castle Blanca on"}, {"start": "01:06:34", "end": "01:06:38", "text": "Fridays and Saturdays. Some of my"}, {"start": "01:06:36", "end": "01:06:40", "text": "cousins took me to work and then picked"}, {"start": "01:06:38", "end": "01:06:43", "text": "me up. According to them, they did it"}, {"start": "01:06:40", "end": "01:06:45", "text": "for me as a favor. In my opinion, and"}, {"start": "01:06:43", "end": "01:06:46", "text": "please excuse my honesty, they did it to"}, {"start": "01:06:45", "end": "01:06:48", "text": "be there in case something happened"}, {"start": "01:06:46", "end": "01:06:50", "text": "again."}, {"start": "01:06:48", "end": "01:06:52", "text": "I'll never understand why someone would"}, {"start": "01:06:50", "end": "01:06:55", "text": "want to go through something like that."}, {"start": "01:06:52", "end": "01:06:57", "text": "In time, since nothing ever happened,"}, {"start": "01:06:55", "end": "01:06:59", "text": "they got tired of coming and going. I"}, {"start": "01:06:57", "end": "01:07:02", "text": "had a little problem at work, and though"}, {"start": "01:06:59", "end": "01:07:04", "text": "it was something minor, I used it as an"}, {"start": "01:07:02", "end": "01:07:07", "text": "excuse not to work there anymore. It"}, {"start": "01:07:04", "end": "01:07:08", "text": "didn't matter. I had another job as a"}, {"start": "01:07:07", "end": "01:07:11", "text": "janitor and I had gotten through a"}, {"start": "01:07:08", "end": "01:07:13", "text": "friend of my cousins. I had started this"}, {"start": "01:07:11", "end": "01:07:15", "text": "other job not long after I started to"}, {"start": "01:07:13", "end": "01:07:17", "text": "work at the nightclub."}, {"start": "01:07:15", "end": "01:07:19", "text": "By this time, we're almost done here. We"}, {"start": "01:07:17", "end": "01:07:22", "text": "got a few pages left, folks. I'm still"}, {"start": "01:07:19", "end": "01:07:24", "text": "wondering what happened to these photos."}, {"start": "01:07:22", "end": "01:07:28", "text": "By this time, I almost never left the"}, {"start": "01:07:24", "end": "01:07:31", "text": "house at night. When and if I did, was"}, {"start": "01:07:28", "end": "01:07:33", "text": "with my car full of people. Through my"}, {"start": "01:07:31", "end": "01:07:35", "text": "friends and family, word got around in"}, {"start": "01:07:33", "end": "01:07:36", "text": "town of my experience with those beings."}, {"start": "01:07:35", "end": "01:07:38", "text": "The nightmares continued and the people"}, {"start": "01:07:36", "end": "01:07:40", "text": "in the neighborhood were saying that at"}, {"start": "01:07:38", "end": "01:07:42", "text": "home, everyone was possessed by the"}, {"start": "01:07:40", "end": "01:07:44", "text": "devil. At night, I started to pretend I"}, {"start": "01:07:42", "end": "01:07:46", "text": "was asleep just so my family and"}, {"start": "01:07:44", "end": "01:07:48", "text": "neighbors could rest. I would stay awake"}, {"start": "01:07:46", "end": "01:07:50", "text": "the entire night."}, {"start": "01:07:48", "end": "01:07:51", "text": "I walked the house like a ghost and made"}, {"start": "01:07:50", "end": "01:07:53", "text": "sure that all the windows were closed."}, {"start": "01:07:51", "end": "01:07:55", "text": "Sometimes I would read the Bible and"}, {"start": "01:07:53", "end": "01:07:57", "text": "other times I would just sit and think."}, {"start": "01:07:55", "end": "01:08:00", "text": "Still tried in vain to remember what had"}, {"start": "01:07:57", "end": "01:08:01", "text": "happened to me. I went to work with bags"}, {"start": "01:08:00", "end": "01:08:03", "text": "under my eyes and was sleepy all the"}, {"start": "01:08:01", "end": "01:08:05", "text": "time. I slept in the afternoon when I"}, {"start": "01:08:03", "end": "01:08:07", "text": "got home. Sometimes I would have"}, {"start": "01:08:05", "end": "01:08:09", "text": "nightmares and I'd screamed, but because"}, {"start": "01:08:07", "end": "01:08:11", "text": "it wasn't late still, the everyday"}, {"start": "01:08:09", "end": "01:08:14", "text": "sounds and noises camouflaged me most of"}, {"start": "01:08:11", "end": "01:08:17", "text": "the time. I was basically a prisoner of"}, {"start": "01:08:14", "end": "01:08:19", "text": "my room. My family and I kept tabs on"}, {"start": "01:08:17", "end": "01:08:21", "text": "the news to see if there was mention of"}, {"start": "01:08:19", "end": "01:08:23", "text": "extraterrestrial ships being chased by"}, {"start": "01:08:21", "end": "01:08:25", "text": "military planes."}, {"start": "01:08:23", "end": "01:08:27", "text": "We also kept checking the newspaper, but"}, {"start": "01:08:25", "end": "01:08:30", "text": "found nothing. Meanwhile, I was living a"}, {"start": "01:08:27", "end": "01:08:32", "text": "kind of lie. I gave the impression of"}, {"start": "01:08:30", "end": "01:08:34", "text": "leading a normal life or what I"}, {"start": "01:08:32", "end": "01:08:36", "text": "considered normal. Yet inside, I was"}, {"start": "01:08:34", "end": "01:08:38", "text": "anguished and frustrated."}, {"start": "01:08:36", "end": "01:08:39", "text": "There were days when I could almost"}, {"start": "01:08:38", "end": "01:08:42", "text": "recall what was happening during that"}, {"start": "01:08:39", "end": "01:08:44", "text": "lost time. This actually happened when I"}, {"start": "01:08:42", "end": "01:08:48", "text": "tried the least. All this made me start"}, {"start": "01:08:44", "end": "01:08:49", "text": "thinking that I was losing my mind. Many"}, {"start": "01:08:48", "end": "01:08:52", "text": "family members suggested I see a"}, {"start": "01:08:49", "end": "01:08:54", "text": "psychiatrist and others that I go to a"}, {"start": "01:08:52", "end": "01:08:56", "text": "spiritualist center. Going to a"}, {"start": "01:08:54", "end": "01:08:58", "text": "psychiatrist seemed absurd to me."}, {"start": "01:08:56", "end": "01:09:00", "text": "Probably as absurd as it would seem to"}, {"start": "01:08:58", "end": "01:09:02", "text": "him the reasons why I'd seek him. I"}, {"start": "01:09:00", "end": "01:09:03", "text": "didn't even consider the spiritualist"}, {"start": "01:09:02", "end": "01:09:06", "text": "center. I didn't want any more"}, {"start": "01:09:03", "end": "01:09:09", "text": "encounters with the unknown. The days"}, {"start": "01:09:06", "end": "01:09:11", "text": "went by with me living in my own private"}, {"start": "01:09:09", "end": "01:09:13", "text": "world, scared and confused, and the rest"}, {"start": "01:09:11", "end": "01:09:16", "text": "of the world oblivious of my emotional"}, {"start": "01:09:13", "end": "01:09:20", "text": "conflict."}, {"start": "01:09:16", "end": "01:09:20", "text": "This time of my life was devastating."}, {"start": "01:09:20", "end": "01:09:24", "text": "I couldn't take it anymore."}, {"start": "01:09:24", "end": "01:09:27", "text": "On the one hand, I wanted to forget"}, {"start": "01:09:25", "end": "01:09:30", "text": "everything and on the other, I wanted to"}, {"start": "01:09:27", "end": "01:09:33", "text": "remember. I wanted answers. At the same"}, {"start": "01:09:30", "end": "01:09:36", "text": "time, I didn't want to know anything. I"}, {"start": "01:09:33", "end": "01:09:38", "text": "was crazy. I felt alone, different, and"}, {"start": "01:09:36", "end": "01:09:39", "text": "isolated."}, {"start": "01:09:38", "end": "01:09:42", "text": "I thought my life would never be the"}, {"start": "01:09:39", "end": "01:09:44", "text": "same. All this I shared with my brother"}, {"start": "01:09:42", "end": "01:09:47", "text": "Charlie through letters. My brother,"}, {"start": "01:09:44", "end": "01:09:49", "text": "who's a United States Marine, at the"}, {"start": "01:09:47", "end": "01:09:52", "text": "time, was stationed in Japan with his"}, {"start": "01:09:49", "end": "01:09:54", "text": "wife, Mercedes Vicki."}, {"start": "01:09:52", "end": "01:09:57", "text": "He gave me a very good advice. It's a"}, {"start": "01:09:54", "end": "01:09:59", "text": "shame I didn't follow it. Charlie told"}, {"start": "01:09:57", "end": "01:10:01", "text": "me I should be very careful with those"}, {"start": "01:09:59", "end": "01:10:03", "text": "pictures."}, {"start": "01:10:01", "end": "01:10:04", "text": "He knew from his circle of military"}, {"start": "01:10:03", "end": "01:10:06", "text": "friends that there had been cases where"}, {"start": "01:10:04", "end": "01:10:08", "text": "the government took people with solid"}, {"start": "01:10:06", "end": "01:10:10", "text": "evidence about the existence of"}, {"start": "01:10:08", "end": "01:10:13", "text": "extraterrestrial beings and made them"}, {"start": "01:10:10", "end": "01:10:18", "text": "disappear from the map. Not only the"}, {"start": "01:10:13", "end": "01:10:20", "text": "evidence, but the people as well."}, {"start": "01:10:18", "end": "01:10:23", "text": "Okay. So, a little foreshadowing here"}, {"start": "01:10:20", "end": "01:10:25", "text": "from brother Charlie as he says, \"I"}, {"start": "01:10:23", "end": "01:10:27", "text": "should have listened to Charlie.\""}, {"start": "01:10:25", "end": "01:10:28", "text": "Um, because clearly some of those"}, {"start": "01:10:27", "end": "01:10:32", "text": "pictures went missing. Not the ones that"}, {"start": "01:10:28", "end": "01:10:34", "text": "we're looking at now, but the ones that"}, {"start": "01:10:32", "end": "01:10:36", "text": "are referred to here in this story, the"}, {"start": "01:10:34", "end": "01:10:39", "text": "man in black, the bulbous headed"}, {"start": "01:10:36", "end": "01:10:39", "text": "creatures."}, {"start": "01:10:39", "end": "01:10:44", "text": "I get the impression that Amorei is"}, {"start": "01:10:42", "end": "01:10:47", "text": "obviously deeply traumatized, troubled,"}, {"start": "01:10:44", "end": "01:10:51", "text": "and and and just"}, {"start": "01:10:47", "end": "01:10:51", "text": "I suppose confused."}, {"start": "01:10:53", "end": "01:10:57", "text": "It seems like a very depressive state"}, {"start": "01:10:54", "end": "01:10:59", "text": "that he's in. And and"}, {"start": "01:10:57", "end": "01:11:01", "text": "in in a lot of the encounter books that"}, {"start": "01:10:59", "end": "01:11:04", "text": "I've read"}, {"start": "01:11:01", "end": "01:11:06", "text": "mirrors that same sense of dread or"}, {"start": "01:11:04", "end": "01:11:09", "text": "pointlessness or"}, {"start": "01:11:06", "end": "01:11:11", "text": "Yeah. just this cloud that hovers over"}, {"start": "01:11:09", "end": "01:11:13", "text": "your head constantly after one of these"}, {"start": "01:11:11", "end": "01:11:15", "text": "experiences."}, {"start": "01:11:13", "end": "01:11:18", "text": "You know, as someone I'm sure like many"}, {"start": "01:11:15", "end": "01:11:19", "text": "of the others listening to this video,"}, {"start": "01:11:18", "end": "01:11:21", "text": "um"}, {"start": "01:11:19", "end": "01:11:24", "text": "I'm I'm"}, {"start": "01:11:21", "end": "01:11:26", "text": "part of me is like jealous, right? Not"}, {"start": "01:11:24", "end": "01:11:29", "text": "jealous, but maybe maybe a tiny bit"}, {"start": "01:11:26", "end": "01:11:31", "text": "envious that he got to, you know, live"}, {"start": "01:11:29", "end": "01:11:36", "text": "something like this. But then I'm"}, {"start": "01:11:31", "end": "01:11:39", "text": "swiftly reminded that like many cases"}, {"start": "01:11:36", "end": "01:11:41", "text": "where people are shown things or"}, {"start": "01:11:39", "end": "01:11:43", "text": "greeted, you know, having these close"}, {"start": "01:11:41", "end": "01:11:46", "text": "encounters,"}, {"start": "01:11:43", "end": "01:11:48", "text": "it's a bit of a curse. These people are"}, {"start": "01:11:46", "end": "01:11:50", "text": "deeply traumatized and affected. Their"}, {"start": "01:11:48", "end": "01:11:53", "text": "life is changed forever. 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I mean, this"}, {"start": "01:12:56", "end": "01:13:00", "text": "is"}, {"start": "01:12:58", "end": "01:13:02", "text": "This is the joy of reading, you know,"}, {"start": "01:13:00", "end": "01:13:05", "text": "becomes cathartic and you do learn"}, {"start": "01:13:02", "end": "01:13:07", "text": "through other people's experiences at"}, {"start": "01:13:05", "end": "01:13:09", "text": "least"}, {"start": "01:13:07", "end": "01:13:12", "text": "if only a little bit. Folks, thank you"}, {"start": "01:13:09", "end": "01:13:14", "text": "so much for joining me. I have a"}, {"start": "01:13:12", "end": "01:13:17", "text": "feeling, I mean, I can't put this book"}, {"start": "01:13:14", "end": "01:13:19", "text": "down at this point. I have a feeling we"}, {"start": "01:13:17", "end": "01:13:21", "text": "have to read on because I have to know,"}, {"start": "01:13:19", "end": "01:13:24", "text": "was there an interaction with a man in"}, {"start": "01:13:21", "end": "01:13:26", "text": "black? How did these pictures, you know,"}, {"start": "01:13:24", "end": "01:13:29", "text": "lose themselves?"}, {"start": "01:13:26", "end": "01:13:30", "text": "Were they stolen? Were they destroyed?"}, {"start": "01:13:29", "end": "01:13:33", "text": "And then how come he still has these"}, {"start": "01:13:30", "end": "01:13:35", "text": "ones? And was there any followup? This"}, {"start": "01:13:33", "end": "01:13:36", "text": "is something I'm going to throw out"}, {"start": "01:13:35", "end": "01:13:39", "text": "there to the world, but also to my"}, {"start": "01:13:36", "end": "01:13:41", "text": "research team over at Area 52. We got to"}, {"start": "01:13:39", "end": "01:13:44", "text": "come up with some sightings in Cabo Rojo"}, {"start": "01:13:41", "end": "01:13:47", "text": "in 1988 in Puerto Rico. Are there any"}, {"start": "01:13:44", "end": "01:13:50", "text": "corroborating pieces of evidence or or"}, {"start": "01:13:47", "end": "01:13:52", "text": "or sightings that that could uh that"}, {"start": "01:13:50", "end": "01:13:53", "text": "could shed some light on Amore's case?"}, {"start": "01:13:52", "end": "01:13:55", "text": "That would be very very interesting to"}, {"start": "01:13:53", "end": "01:13:57", "text": "find out. Folks, if you enjoyed this"}, {"start": "01:13:55", "end": "01:13:59", "text": "read through and you want to see more,"}, {"start": "01:13:57", "end": "01:14:01", "text": "let me know by commenting below, leaving"}, {"start": "01:13:59", "end": "01:14:03", "text": "a like, and subscribing. 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This this is"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "this is part for me of the most"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "fascinating um part of your case because"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "it's it's such a crude and strange"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "method. You decided, hey, if something's"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "entering my room and if something is"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "tampering with my things or with me"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "potentially, why not try to communicate"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "with them? I created a poster. Uh I want"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "to remember your visit. Let me remember"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "you. I will not harm in big block"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "letters on a 8 and 1 half x 11 poster. I"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "printed it out and I taped it on my wall"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "above my headboard."}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:30", "text": ">> 2 weeks later, something happened"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:33", "text": ">> and I woke up in my garage and I was"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "suspended off the concrete floor and I"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "was tilted forward at a 25 30° angle and"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "I was looking down at one of those"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "little skinny bombs."}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:45", "text": ">> Do you think they're evil?"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "I think they're desperate."}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "I think that they're trying to survive"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "and I think they want to come here. I"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "think they want to live here on our"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "planet and uh they can't do so without"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "uh borrowing heavily from our uh gene"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "pool."}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "The word abduction itself doesn't"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "encompass the the loss of agency, you"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "know, and and to be shown children I can"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "never touch or love or or hold or know."}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "That that just that just makes me shake"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "with anger, you know? I I I hate these"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "people. I hate them."}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:29", "text": ">> Hi, Chris. My name's Terry. I'm probably"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "going to regret this, but here it goes."}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "In 1969, while working at a venue in San"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "Francisco called The Family Dog in the"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "Great Highway, I got involved with a"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "conversation with a gentleman who had"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "walked off the street who started"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "explaining that there were these beings"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "that"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "existed here at a higher vibrational"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "level. He said that they had a physical"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "existence, but they were out of our"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "range of"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "perception. And then he looked at me and"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "said,"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "\"They'd like to speak to you if you're"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "interested.\""}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "I thought the guy was out of his mind,"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "but I also thought being a 17-year-old"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "that Yeah, it's true. It could be neat."}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "If you're interested in hearing what"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "happened after that, let me know."}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:29", "text": ">> Eric Nansteel, thank you so much for"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "joining me today in the skiff. And I um"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "just finished reading your book, Angst"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "in the Shadows. It was a really"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "interesting and incredible story of"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "alien abduction um of an ongoing what"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "seems to be like this progressing"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "ongoing experience that you keep having"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "to relive. Um, and today I want to talk"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "to you about the origins of that, how we"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "got into that, and then based on your"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "experiences, what your theories are."}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:00", "text": ">> Absolutely. And thank you for having me."}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "you know, it's not every day we get I"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "get to speak to uh experiencers and"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "that's one of the things that I think"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "draws me to this book like many others"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "whether it's you know Whitley Strieber I"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "mean um Betty Andreas, Travis Walton, so"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "many others is you know we can learn a"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "fair amount of things from"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "whistleblowers or from observations in"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "the sky or fleer footage but you can't"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "learn about their culture. You can't"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "learn about their origin. You can't"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "learn truly about, you know, their"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "technology. Um, unless you speak to an"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "experiencer and then that gives you some"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "type of glimpse into their world. Um,"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:48", "text": ">> I agree."}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:50", "text": ">> Although a reluctant glimpse I'm sure at"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "times. But for you, this all started"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "when you were just a baby."}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:56", "text": ">> That's right. It started for me when I"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "was a baby, but it started for my mother"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "in the 1950s."}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "And um but I'll start with myself. In"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "1970, I was um I want to say about"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "spring, like April, May of 1970."}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "Um I was about 15 16 months old. And um"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "it started with uh these white orbs of"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "plasma that would enter my room. Um, I"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "was uh I remembered it because this"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "happened so often it just kind of burned"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "into my memory. 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And as I did, uh this"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "white plasma orb, it was like glowing"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "bright, just came right through my uh"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "bedroom closet door and uh across the"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "room at about the speed of an adult"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "walking. and it came up to my forehead,"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "touched my forehead, and I lost"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "consciousness. And this happened on a"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "nearly monthly basis for 4 years."}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:12", "text": ">> You didn't remember this until you were"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "like a little bit older, right? Or you"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "remembered it, you just hadn't made the"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "the ET connection."}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:19", "text": ">> Absolutely. I told my mother about it"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "when I was old enough to talk about it"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "because it happened up until the age of"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "five. It stopped happening probably in"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "late 1974."}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "And uh my uh my mother,"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "which this freaks me out cuz she didn't"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "tell me this until like the last couple"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "of years uh when I was writing the book,"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "my mother told me that in 1974 she had"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "um recurrent nightmares, dreams of uh"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "running through the neighborhood from a"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "friend's house to try to get home. It"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "was her, my father, and myself. And I,"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "you know, at that time was only five."}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "And um as we're running home, these"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "hundreds of white orbs would descend"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "from the sky and chase us. And we're"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "trying to like duck through the"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "backyards and hide behind sheds and"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "things like that in her dream. And"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "an an orb would catch up to us and shine"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "a beam of light down on us. And uh"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:22", "text": ">> this is something she told you."}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:25", "text": ">> Yes. She had these dreams. I was seeing"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "orbs in my waking consciousness, in my"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "waking life, in my bedrooms as a kid."}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "And it happened all the time. It it"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "happened so often. I developed a fear of"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "closets. Um, but it wasn't just a"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "closet. Sometimes it would come through"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "like the knee wall by the ceiling,"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "sometimes just through the wall, through"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "a window, but usually through"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:46", "text": ">> What color was the door? White. Bright"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "white. About the size of a softball."}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "Wow. About this big. And uh so every"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "time my mom had this nightmare about the"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "orbs catching up to us, I would be"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "taken."}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:02", "text": ">> She's having nightmares about me being"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "taken."}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "When I'm seeing these things actually"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "visiting me in my waking life, um I"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "don't remember being taken anywhere back"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "then. I would go unconscious and when I"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "wake up again, uh, everything was"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "normal. I'm back. Yeah. Back to normal,"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "right? Uh, and then, you know, sometimes"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "you might dismiss it as a dream at the"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "time, but, um, but I know the difference"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "between being awake and and having a"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "vivid dream. Um, there's there it's so"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "different."}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:40", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:42", "text": ">> And so I know when I'm awake. Um, so but"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "that wasn't my mother's first"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "experience. If she's having these"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "nightmares about orbs chasing us, that"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "tells me that her subconscious mind is"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "suppressing memories of some kind. Cuz I"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "was"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "I was still too young. Like I I wasn't"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "really talking about the orbs. I"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "mentioned them once or twice and my mom"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "said, \"Oh, they're probably just angels"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "and you're special and they're just"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "visiting you.\" And I'm like, \"Oh, I'm"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "special. you know, angels visit me."}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "Great. I don't believe that anymore. I I"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "take it in the context of my abduction"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "encounters that I had later on. Um, so,"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "but for my mother, all this started back"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "in 1953 when she was 9 years old. She uh"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "lived in Turtle Creek, Pennsylvania,"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "which is a suburb outside of Pittsburgh."}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "Um, her family lived in a small home on"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "top of Rose Hill on Kugxton Avenue. It's"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "um it's a a narrow street with houses on"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "one side and a view of a a valley pretty"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "far below of a massive trainard. And um"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "there was one summer night, I think it"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "was in July. I'm not sure. I don't"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "remember what she told me. I I might"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "have put it in the book. Um but her"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "brother saw a UFO at night flying over"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "the valley and it was you know circular"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "and had lights and um and it was it was"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "moving laterally you know it was moving"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "parallel to the you know the the valley"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "and uh kind of stopped above their house"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "and then they were looking at it and"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "then it just it was gone just up and"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "gone. Wow."}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:21", "text": ">> Um so they ran into the kitchen and my"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "mother was in there and this was close"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "to bedtime. They ran into the kitchen,"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "my mother and her her little brother"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "Billy was in there and uh and her and um"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "this was Dick and Don. And they came in,"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "hey mom, Betty, there we saw a UFO"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "flying over the valley and then so they"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "described it and then so everybody ran"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "outside to go take a look at this UFO."}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "It was gone. Um but uh my mom didn't get"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "to see it. However, that night about"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "2:30 in the morning, now she had her own"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "bedroom. She was the only sibling that"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "had her own bedroom cuz they there was"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "uh eight kids and and she was the only"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "young female. Uh so she had her own"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "bedroom. All the other kids that were"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "still in the house were uh sharing a"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "bedroom in front. Anyway, she snuck she"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "she woke up in the middle of the night"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "at 2:30 a.m. and she felt compelled like"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "she had to go check on something down in"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "the basement, which was at the time just"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "a dirty coal cellar. I mean, just, you"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "know, dirt and there's a couple of"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "laundry machines down there. That was"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "it."}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:33", "text": ">> Um"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "there that's no place for a 9-year-old"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "girl at 2:30 in the morning. Yeah. But"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "she felt compelled that she had to go"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "check on something. and she didn't"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "understand like it felt urgent. Um, so"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "she got up, she snuck downstairs, went"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "down the stairs and through the dining"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "room, through the kitchen, turn on the"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "light above the, you know, by the the"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "basement door, open the door, and the"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "light illuminated the the stairs, just"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "to the base of the stairs, no further."}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "Beyond that was shadowed blackness. And"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "so she got about I don't know three or"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "four steps down before she noticed uh"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "some shapes coming out of the darkness"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "and uh they turned out to be two very"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "large German shepherds and they were"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "growling and snarling at her and she was"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "frightened. Um"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:24", "text": ">> and she didn't have German shepherds."}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:25", "text": ">> No. No. They had a little fluffy white"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "dog named Fuzzy."}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:28", "text": ">> Yeah. Definitely a far cry from a German"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "Shepherd."}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:32", "text": ">> Right. Right. and and and why would they"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "be in the basement at 2:30 at night,"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:33", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:35", "text": ">> Um,"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:37", "text": ">> and this is your impression um, you"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "know, traveling a little further in time"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "here, but this is a screen memory."}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:43", "text": ">> I believe it was a screen memory. Yes."}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "Because I'm taking it in the context of"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "everything everything that's happened"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "later."}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:49", "text": ">> It only makes sense that her brothers"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "see the UFO that night."}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:52", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:55", "text": ">> And and she's having this really weird"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "encounter in the basement. The dogs"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "lunge at her and she go passes"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "unconscious. And then when she wakes up"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "again, she's back in her room."}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:06", "text": ">> Yeah. No, no scratches, no bite marks."}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:09", "text": ">> Right. Right. So, at the time, she just"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "wrote it off as a dream. Forgot about"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "it. She didn't think about it again"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "until the 2020s when my encounter"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "started happen so regularly that I was"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "actually waking up and seeing,"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:22", "text": ">> you know, what was going on with me and"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "where I was and who I was interacting"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "with. You know, that was happening so"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "often. So I started to tell my family"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "like, \"Hey, these things are happening"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "to me.\" And and when I told my mother"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "that sometimes the grays when I would"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "see them, sometimes at first they would"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "appear like humans or I would believe"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "that they're human, like a post-hypnotic"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "suggestion kind of a thing. And then"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "later on when I'm back at home and I"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "wake up, um the visual memory of what I"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "actually saw is what I remembered. Um,"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:55", "text": ">> must have been very confusing, right, to"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "try and figure that out and try to map"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "that out in your own mind."}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:00", "text": ">> It's like I was talking to my brother"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "Ron last night, but no, that was that"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "was a it it had the big eyes and a gray"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "face, you know, it was a small gray. Um,"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "you know, so things like that. So"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "eventually, uh, I I was telling my mom"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "about these screen memories and then"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "that just clicked something in her head"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "and I told her about Whitley Strieber"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:20", "text": ">> with a barn owl."}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:23", "text": ">> Yeah. um through the kitchen window."}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:27", "text": ">> I mean, so many so many reports of"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "whether it's deer, uh owls, uh I mean"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "many types of even, you know, different"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "people, children, like there's all types"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "of strange screen memories. And I think"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "for the most part, what stays with"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "people when they hear about these things"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "is"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "the absurdity"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "of what they're seeing,"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:50", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "Because there is there is this idea,"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "okay, maybe you did see an owl or maybe"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "you did see a dog, but you're like, no,"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "there's an abstractness to what I'm"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "seeing and it's misplaced. It's not"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "supposed to be here. And that's where it"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "almost seems like there is a sort of"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "disconnect between, you know, whatever"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "technology or telepathic ability they're"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "using to potentially project a screen"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "memory. They don't fully understand"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "what's normal,"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:18", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:20", "text": ">> And they're and they're projecting some"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "strange, you know, event where we're"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "seeing it as like highly anomalous."}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:25", "text": ">> Like why would I be in uh in the air"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "traffic control tower?"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:27", "text": ">> Exactly."}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:28", "text": ">> Surrounded by windows in this round"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "room."}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:30", "text": ">> Yeah. 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We have these"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "initial"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "uh memories of these orbs coming into"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "your room."}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:38", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:41", "text": ">> Um there is also an incident later on in"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "your life where you're in a hospital and"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "the orb comes over comes over you as"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "well and you experience some type of"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "healing event. What you perceived as a"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "potential ability to heal another child"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "in the hospital. Is that fair to say?"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:58", "text": ">> Yes. This happened in 1974 in Parkidge,"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:03", "text": "Illinois at uh Lutheran General"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "Hospital. I um I was in for observation"}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "related to um an injury I sustained in a"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "bouncy house at Adventureland,"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "which um bouncy houses were not"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:17", "text": "ubiquitous back in the early '7s. They"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "only had them at theme parks. So before"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "anybody objects, oh you couldn't have"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "been in a bouncy house, those are a new"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "thing. They're not. Um, I got trampled"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "and um and I I had a concussion and so I"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "was being observed for some minor"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "seizure activity. I outgrew it a few"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "years later. But um while I was there uh"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "on my last day, I remember um it was"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "late and I was starting to get drowsy,"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "but I was still awake, very awake. And I"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "was I was looking at the I was closest"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "to the to the hallway door and the"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "bathroom and Tommy the my roommate uh he"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "was closer to the windows. So it was a a"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "two-bed room and he was he was he had"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:05", "text": "some kind of sepsis going on. He had a"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "infected abscess in his abdomen and it"}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "was all the way up around his heart and"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "lungs and he had 110 fever. Um, well, it"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "would vary between 105 and 110."}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "And, uh, I don't remember his last name,"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "but his name was Tommy. And, um, my"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "mother's told me the story so many"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "times, that's why I remembered it. But,"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "um, you were how old?"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:32", "text": ">> I was five. Okay. And I"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "the night before it was time for me to"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "leave, cuz I was there for like 4 days."}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "Tommy was there for one or two days. Um,"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "the night before I was to leave, um, a"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "white orb came through the the the"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "hallway door into the hospital room."}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:51", "text": ">> This is at night."}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:53", "text": ">> Uh, this was at night. Yeah. And and,"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "uh, it was lights out. You know, we were"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:57", "text": "It was time for bed. And uh,"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:19:58", "text": ">> do you remember waking up?"}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:19:59", "text": ">> I was awake."}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:01", "text": ">> You were awake. You were not asleep."}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:03", "text": ">> Yeah. There was too much noise in the"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:04", "text": "hallway. I wasn't ready to fall asleep,"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:07", "text": ">> but I was quiet and I was just kind of"}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "like lazily staring at the window until"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "I fell asleep. But"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:15", "text": ">> um I remember the door had a window with"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "the reinforced wire mesh inside and and"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:23", "text": "uh white linen curtains hanging over it."}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "And um so the orb came through that and"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "came to my bed and touched my forehead"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "and I was instantly asleep, unconscious."}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "And I woke up the next morning and um"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:37", "text": "the nurse came in uh to help me prepare"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "to leave. And so I I used the washroom,"}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "got dressed, and my mother came for me."}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "And Tommy's mother was there. She never"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "left. She never left her son's side. She"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "slept there all night with him. Um cuz"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:53", "text": "he he was deathly ill and and probably"}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:55", "text": "expected to die. I assumed he was going"}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "to die. Nobody told me that, but I"}, {"start": "00:20:55", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "expected it. Um and I was kind of afraid"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:02", "text": "of him."}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "Like emotionally I couldn't handle being"}, {"start": "00:21:02", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "around somebody who was dying. I was a"}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "5-year-old. Very"}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:07", "text": ">> embarrassed."}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:09", "text": ">> Yeah. Didn't really comprehend the uh"}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:13", "text": ">> Right. I just didn't I was just like I"}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "don't want to be near him. Um and so my"}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "mother came with a a toy truck and she"}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "wanted me to give it to Tommy. And um"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "and I told her, \"Mommy, I I don't I"}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "don't want to talk to him. He's going to"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:28", "text": "die.\" And my mom said, \"Um, honey, you"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:32", "text": "have to you have to say goodbye to him."}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "It's a nice thing to do.\" So, I took the"}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "truck from her and I I walked over to"}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "Tommy's bed and he had a little uh three"}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "set of stairs, wooden stairway that the"}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "kids used to climb up into. Small"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "children would climb up into the bed cuz"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:50", "text": "the beds were kind of high. Um, and I"}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "knelt beside him and he was so weak. He"}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "was looking at me like listless, you"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "know, and I I set the the little toy"}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "truck next to his head, next to his"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "pillow, and I said, \"This is for you.\""}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:07", "text": "And I knew he wasn't going to play with"}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:10", "text": "it right there. Um, but just a thought"}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "came into my mind right then,"}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:15", "text": "and I'm like, I I don't even know why."}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "It was just instinct. I just spread out"}, {"start": "00:22:15", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "my hands like this and I place my hands"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "on his abdomen, his torso, and I just"}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "move my hands up and down his body and"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:28", "text": "and I said, \"There, now you're going to"}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "be all better.\" And meanwhile, my mother"}, {"start": "00:22:28", "end": "00:22:34", "text": "and Tommy's mother were near the the"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "door uh conferring with each other and"}, {"start": "00:22:34", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "looking at me and like, \"What's he"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:39", "text": "doing?\" It's kind of weird. Um so I"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:41", "text": "said, \"There, now you're going to be all"}, {"start": "00:22:39", "end": "00:22:44", "text": "better.\" and I hopped down off the bed"}, {"start": "00:22:41", "end": "00:22:46", "text": "and my mother and I uh were about to"}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "leave. I I ran down the hallway."}, {"start": "00:22:46", "end": "00:22:50", "text": ">> You remember saying that to him?"}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:51", "text": ">> I remember saying that to him. Yes. Uh"}, {"start": "00:22:50", "end": "00:22:53", "text": "and then but my mother told me"}, {"start": "00:22:51", "end": "00:22:55", "text": "something. I said when I was in the"}, {"start": "00:22:53", "end": "00:22:57", "text": "hallway, she said I was looking at my"}, {"start": "00:22:55", "end": "00:22:58", "text": "hands. I said, \"I have magic hands.\""}, {"start": "00:22:57", "end": "00:23:00", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:01", "text": ">> I don't remember saying that, but she"}, {"start": "00:23:00", "end": "00:23:01", "text": "remembers I saying that."}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:05", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:07", "text": ">> That I said that. Um so apparently they"}, {"start": "00:23:05", "end": "00:23:10", "text": "had exchanged numbers, my mother and"}, {"start": "00:23:07", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "Tommy's mother. And so I don't know if"}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:17", "text": "it was like a week later, but Tommy's"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:19", "text": "mother called my mom and said um they uh"}, {"start": "00:23:17", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "they took her son in for testing to see"}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:22", "text": "like how are they going to try to save"}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:25", "text": "his life cuz he was laying on a like an"}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:25", "text": "ice bed overnight to try to get his body"}, {"start": "00:23:25", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "temperature down."}, {"start": "00:23:25", "end": "00:23:31", "text": ">> Yeah. Right. You know, cuz it was so"}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:33", "text": "high and um but his fever had already"}, {"start": "00:23:31", "end": "00:23:36", "text": "broken when the doctors came for him."}, {"start": "00:23:33", "end": "00:23:38", "text": "And uh they they ran some tests and the"}, {"start": "00:23:36", "end": "00:23:42", "text": "abscess was completely gone. all that"}, {"start": "00:23:38", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "infected goop that was in there gone."}, {"start": "00:23:42", "end": "00:23:48", "text": "And um so Tommy's mother was pretty"}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:51", "text": "excited. She called my mom and and she"}, {"start": "00:23:48", "end": "00:23:53", "text": "told him, you know, it's a miracle and"}, {"start": "00:23:51", "end": "00:23:56", "text": "he he didn't didn't require surgery or"}, {"start": "00:23:53", "end": "00:23:58", "text": "anything. Um I don't know if they really"}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:23:59", "text": "scheduled him for surgery, but I kind of"}, {"start": "00:23:58", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "assumed they would."}, {"start": "00:23:59", "end": "00:24:02", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:05", "text": ">> But uh he didn't need it. Do you ever"}, {"start": "00:24:02", "end": "00:24:08", "text": "follow up with your mom into like who"}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:09", "text": "this person was? And she does she have"}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:11", "text": "the number still or?"}, {"start": "00:24:09", "end": "00:24:13", "text": ">> No. No. I mean, back then all the all"}, {"start": "00:24:11", "end": "00:24:14", "text": "the phone numbers in Chicago were 312"}, {"start": "00:24:13", "end": "00:24:17", "text": "area code."}, {"start": "00:24:14", "end": "00:24:18", "text": ">> Uh they only had one area code. So the"}, {"start": "00:24:17", "end": "00:24:20", "text": "number wouldn't be good anymore."}, {"start": "00:24:18", "end": "00:24:21", "text": ">> And this isn't something your mom would"}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:22", "text": "have told you just to make you feel"}, {"start": "00:24:21", "end": "00:24:24", "text": "good."}, {"start": "00:24:22", "end": "00:24:26", "text": ">> No, she she told me uh it was probably"}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "years later that she told me what her"}, {"start": "00:24:26", "end": "00:24:34", "text": "what Tommy's mother said."}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:37", "text": ">> Wow. Um so but then uh"}, {"start": "00:24:34", "end": "00:24:41", "text": "later that year my grandfather uh my"}, {"start": "00:24:37", "end": "00:24:44", "text": "mom's father uh Sydney um came to visit"}, {"start": "00:24:41", "end": "00:24:46", "text": "uh cuz he he'd never visited Chicago"}, {"start": "00:24:44", "end": "00:24:48", "text": "before. Um they didn't have a lot of"}, {"start": "00:24:46", "end": "00:24:50", "text": "money so they didn't do a lot of"}, {"start": "00:24:48", "end": "00:24:52", "text": "traveling but he wanted to visit Chicago"}, {"start": "00:24:50", "end": "00:24:55", "text": "and he wanted to visit his son in"}, {"start": "00:24:52", "end": "00:24:58", "text": "California. But while he was in Chicago"}, {"start": "00:24:55", "end": "00:25:01", "text": "he became very sick. He had s COPD and"}, {"start": "00:24:58", "end": "00:25:04", "text": "he was dying on our living room rug. It"}, {"start": "00:25:01", "end": "00:25:06", "text": "was a blue rug, like a textured rug. And"}, {"start": "00:25:04", "end": "00:25:08", "text": "um and I remember the paramedics had"}, {"start": "00:25:06", "end": "00:25:11", "text": "been there and there were like all these"}, {"start": "00:25:08", "end": "00:25:13", "text": "needles all over the floor. But um he"}, {"start": "00:25:11", "end": "00:25:16", "text": "told my mom he wanted to live one more"}, {"start": "00:25:13", "end": "00:25:19", "text": "year so he could go out to California"}, {"start": "00:25:16", "end": "00:25:25", "text": "and visit his son. I think uh his son"}, {"start": "00:25:19", "end": "00:25:30", "text": "Jim. And uh so I knelt down beside him"}, {"start": "00:25:25", "end": "00:25:32", "text": "and I put my hands on him too and uh his"}, {"start": "00:25:30", "end": "00:25:36", "text": "medical emergency just"}, {"start": "00:25:32", "end": "00:25:39", "text": "ceased to be and and he was okay. Um and"}, {"start": "00:25:36", "end": "00:25:42", "text": "he lived for almost exactly one year"}, {"start": "00:25:39", "end": "00:25:45", "text": "like within a week. Um and he got to go"}, {"start": "00:25:42", "end": "00:25:47", "text": "to California and and visit his son. And"}, {"start": "00:25:45", "end": "00:25:50", "text": "I never healed again. I never did it"}, {"start": "00:25:47", "end": "00:25:52", "text": "again. I never tried it again. Um, I"}, {"start": "00:25:50", "end": "00:25:54", "text": "don't think I have it anymore. I think"}, {"start": "00:25:52", "end": "00:25:56", "text": "it it was related to the activity I was"}, {"start": "00:25:54", "end": "00:25:56", "text": "experiencing with those orbs"}, {"start": "00:25:56", "end": "00:25:59", "text": ">> from the orb. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:25:56", "end": "00:26:01", "text": ">> Like it was somehow instilled within you"}, {"start": "00:25:59", "end": "00:26:02", "text": "for that"}, {"start": "00:26:01", "end": "00:26:04", "text": ">> small finite amount of time for some"}, {"start": "00:26:02", "end": "00:26:05", "text": "reason. Do you think Tommy might have"}, {"start": "00:26:04", "end": "00:26:06", "text": "grown up to be somebody really important"}, {"start": "00:26:05", "end": "00:26:08", "text": "perhaps?"}, {"start": "00:26:06", "end": "00:26:10", "text": ">> No. I I mean, what else would there"}, {"start": "00:26:08", "end": "00:26:12", "text": ">> I think it's connected to innocence. I"}, {"start": "00:26:10", "end": "00:26:14", "text": "think I think you you have you have"}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:16", "text": "access to a a higher consciousness"}, {"start": "00:26:14", "end": "00:26:19", "text": "within you when you're innocent and"}, {"start": "00:26:16", "end": "00:26:20", "text": "you're not so jaded and cynical"}, {"start": "00:26:19", "end": "00:26:21", "text": ">> from adult life."}, {"start": "00:26:20", "end": "00:26:22", "text": ">> Yeah, I can see that"}, {"start": "00:26:21", "end": "00:26:22", "text": ">> as I am."}, {"start": "00:26:22", "end": "00:26:27", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:26:22", "end": "00:26:27", "text": ">> So, um I I don't think I have it. I"}, {"start": "00:26:27", "end": "00:26:29", "text": "mean,"}, {"start": "00:26:27", "end": "00:26:30", "text": ">> what do you make of um you know, tangent"}, {"start": "00:26:29", "end": "00:26:34", "text": "here, but what do you make of like the"}, {"start": "00:26:30", "end": "00:26:36", "text": "Chris Bledsoe stuff? Uh, honestly, I"}, {"start": "00:26:34", "end": "00:26:37", "text": "haven't looked into him too closely"}, {"start": "00:26:36", "end": "00:26:40", "text": "because there's a lot of obvious"}, {"start": "00:26:37", "end": "00:26:43", "text": "crossovers here with orbs being present"}, {"start": "00:26:40", "end": "00:26:45", "text": "and then healing. Um, you know, he"}, {"start": "00:26:43", "end": "00:26:46", "text": "writes in his book that he was able to,"}, {"start": "00:26:45", "end": "00:26:48", "text": "and this was corroborated actually by"}, {"start": "00:26:46", "end": "00:26:49", "text": "Grant Cameron, who is here on this"}, {"start": "00:26:48", "end": "00:26:51", "text": "podcast, that he was able to heal his"}, {"start": "00:26:49", "end": "00:26:53", "text": "dog Nelly from, you know, when she was"}, {"start": "00:26:51", "end": "00:26:55", "text": "like spurting blood across the house and"}, {"start": "00:26:53", "end": "00:26:58", "text": "just putting his hands on the dog. And"}, {"start": "00:26:55", "end": "00:27:02", "text": "then another instance of him healing a"}, {"start": "00:26:58", "end": "00:27:05", "text": "child that was pretty much um a make a"}, {"start": "00:27:02", "end": "00:27:08", "text": "wish kid and very little time to live."}, {"start": "00:27:05", "end": "00:27:11", "text": "Had like intestinal problems and then"}, {"start": "00:27:08", "end": "00:27:14", "text": "after his visit those went away you know"}, {"start": "00:27:11", "end": "00:27:16", "text": "after he laid his hands on the child."}, {"start": "00:27:14", "end": "00:27:18", "text": "And um and then you know many people"}, {"start": "00:27:16", "end": "00:27:23", "text": "have claimed since then as well to have"}, {"start": "00:27:18", "end": "00:27:25", "text": "had some miraculous intervention due to"}, {"start": "00:27:23", "end": "00:27:27", "text": "you know whether it's him praying or him"}, {"start": "00:27:25", "end": "00:27:30", "text": "like being involved. Do you think that"}, {"start": "00:27:27", "end": "00:27:33", "text": "something like that is"}, {"start": "00:27:30", "end": "00:27:35", "text": "legitimately from visitation? Do you"}, {"start": "00:27:33", "end": "00:27:36", "text": "think like do you think this is possible"}, {"start": "00:27:35", "end": "00:27:39", "text": "like that?"}, {"start": "00:27:36", "end": "00:27:42", "text": ">> Well I I believe that some people have"}, {"start": "00:27:39", "end": "00:27:42", "text": "the ability to heal. Um, I think it's a"}, {"start": "00:27:42", "end": "00:27:45", "text": "real thing"}, {"start": "00:27:42", "end": "00:27:46", "text": ">> without ET intervention."}, {"start": "00:27:45", "end": "00:27:46", "text": ">> I don't know."}, {"start": "00:27:46", "end": "00:27:51", "text": ">> Right."}, {"start": "00:27:46", "end": "00:27:53", "text": ">> All I know is that I've had visits and"}, {"start": "00:27:51", "end": "00:27:53", "text": "I've had healing episodes."}, {"start": "00:27:53", "end": "00:27:56", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:27:53", "end": "00:27:57", "text": ">> And and later on in life in the 2020s, I"}, {"start": "00:27:56", "end": "00:27:58", "text": "was healed,"}, {"start": "00:27:57", "end": "00:28:02", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:27:58", "end": "00:28:02", "text": ">> Um in in a facility that they had me in."}, {"start": "00:28:02", "end": "00:28:04", "text": ">> We'll get to that."}, {"start": "00:28:02", "end": "00:28:06", "text": ">> Yeah. Um but then you have like books"}, {"start": "00:28:04", "end": "00:28:09", "text": "like uh Preston Dennit who you mentioned"}, {"start": "00:28:06", "end": "00:28:12", "text": "your book as well and and he's got a"}, {"start": "00:28:09", "end": "00:28:16", "text": "book where he covers 300 healing cases"}, {"start": "00:28:12", "end": "00:28:18", "text": "of orbs or ET phenomenon um and just so"}, {"start": "00:28:16", "end": "00:28:19", "text": "many of the same type of story"}, {"start": "00:28:18", "end": "00:28:20", "text": "especially in hospitals a lot of times"}, {"start": "00:28:19", "end": "00:28:23", "text": "in hospitals surprisingly where they"}, {"start": "00:28:20", "end": "00:28:24", "text": "have these orbs floating in and being"}, {"start": "00:28:23", "end": "00:28:27", "text": "witnessed and just kind of healing"}, {"start": "00:28:24", "end": "00:28:29", "text": "people. Do you think"}, {"start": "00:28:27", "end": "00:28:32", "text": "was there ever at any point in your life"}, {"start": "00:28:29", "end": "00:28:34", "text": "where you got confirmation that those"}, {"start": "00:28:32", "end": "00:28:40", "text": "orbs were related to the later sort of"}, {"start": "00:28:34", "end": "00:28:43", "text": "grays uh inter uh interacting with you?"}, {"start": "00:28:40", "end": "00:28:45", "text": "When I came upon a realization that that"}, {"start": "00:28:43", "end": "00:28:47", "text": "was connected to the abductions I was"}, {"start": "00:28:45", "end": "00:28:50", "text": "going through, it was only after"}, {"start": "00:28:47", "end": "00:28:52", "text": "watching an episode of Ancient Aliens"}, {"start": "00:28:50", "end": "00:28:56", "text": "where they where they uh showed the uh"}, {"start": "00:28:52", "end": "00:29:00", "text": "the cast uh live on stage at an Alien"}, {"start": "00:28:56", "end": "00:29:03", "text": "Con and somebody was talking about orbs"}, {"start": "00:29:00", "end": "00:29:05", "text": "and they were they also had abduction"}, {"start": "00:29:03", "end": "00:29:08", "text": "encounters. So they saw orbs and then I"}, {"start": "00:29:05", "end": "00:29:09", "text": "see. So, I'm like, those are connected."}, {"start": "00:29:08", "end": "00:29:12", "text": "And then and then it just started to"}, {"start": "00:29:09", "end": "00:29:14", "text": "click, you know. And then, um, my mother"}, {"start": "00:29:12", "end": "00:29:16", "text": "later told me about her episode in the"}, {"start": "00:29:14", "end": "00:29:18", "text": "1950s because I was telling her about"}, {"start": "00:29:16", "end": "00:29:20", "text": "these screen memories cuz I started to"}, {"start": "00:29:18", "end": "00:29:22", "text": "look into it cuz I it was happening so"}, {"start": "00:29:20", "end": "00:29:25", "text": "often and I wasn't believing what I was"}, {"start": "00:29:22", "end": "00:29:27", "text": "seeing. But then eventually those screen"}, {"start": "00:29:25", "end": "00:29:28", "text": "memories stopped working on me because"}, {"start": "00:29:27", "end": "00:29:30", "text": "that's something that they impose upon"}, {"start": "00:29:28", "end": "00:29:33", "text": "you through some kind of post-hypnotic."}, {"start": "00:29:30", "end": "00:29:34", "text": ">> Yeah. Some illusory sort of field."}, {"start": "00:29:33", "end": "00:29:36", "text": ">> Yeah. They they just make you think"}, {"start": "00:29:34", "end": "00:29:39", "text": "you're seeing familiar types of people,"}, {"start": "00:29:36", "end": "00:29:41", "text": "familiar types of places, you know,"}, {"start": "00:29:39", "end": "00:29:44", "text": "where I'd think I'm in a hospital or I"}, {"start": "00:29:41", "end": "00:29:45", "text": "think I'm in a air traffic control tower"}, {"start": "00:29:44", "end": "00:29:47", "text": "or some place like that."}, {"start": "00:29:45", "end": "00:29:50", "text": ">> And as soon as you see past the veil,"}, {"start": "00:29:47", "end": "00:29:50", "text": "it's really hard to keep that keep that"}, {"start": "00:29:50", "end": "00:29:53", "text": "charade up."}, {"start": "00:29:50", "end": "00:29:56", "text": ">> It it stopped working on me. So I was"}, {"start": "00:29:53", "end": "00:29:58", "text": "visually seeing either a tall gray or or"}, {"start": "00:29:56", "end": "00:30:01", "text": "small grays. Um sometimes both in the"}, {"start": "00:29:58", "end": "00:30:02", "text": "same room. Hm. Um, that's interesting"}, {"start": "00:30:01", "end": "00:30:03", "text": "because, you know, we talked about this"}, {"start": "00:30:02", "end": "00:30:05", "text": "at dinner last night, but it is one of"}, {"start": "00:30:03", "end": "00:30:08", "text": "those things where, you know, as a"}, {"start": "00:30:05", "end": "00:30:11", "text": "magician myself, I've I've been able to"}, {"start": "00:30:08", "end": "00:30:13", "text": "use hypnosis for entertainment purposes."}, {"start": "00:30:11", "end": "00:30:14", "text": "Um, I've, you know, I have friends who"}, {"start": "00:30:13", "end": "00:30:16", "text": "are some of the best hypnotists in the"}, {"start": "00:30:14", "end": "00:30:17", "text": "world, entertainment hypnotists, not"}, {"start": "00:30:16", "end": "00:30:19", "text": "clinical hypnotherapists or anything,"}, {"start": "00:30:17", "end": "00:30:21", "text": "but"}, {"start": "00:30:19", "end": "00:30:24", "text": "can do some of the most incredible"}, {"start": "00:30:21", "end": "00:30:25", "text": "things to the human mind and make you"}, {"start": "00:30:24", "end": "00:30:28", "text": "perceive certain things through"}, {"start": "00:30:25", "end": "00:30:30", "text": "different, you know, uh, stages of"}, {"start": "00:30:28", "end": "00:30:33", "text": "suggestion."}, {"start": "00:30:30", "end": "00:30:36", "text": "The interesting notion though is that as"}, {"start": "00:30:33", "end": "00:30:38", "text": "a magician, I am ironically"}, {"start": "00:30:36", "end": "00:30:41", "text": "disillusioned by this"}, {"start": "00:30:38", "end": "00:30:42", "text": ">> because I know how it works. So I do"}, {"start": "00:30:41", "end": "00:30:45", "text": "there is some susceptibility here. There"}, {"start": "00:30:42", "end": "00:30:51", "text": "is like a a layer that I can no longer"}, {"start": "00:30:45", "end": "00:30:54", "text": "be sort of um hypnotized by and so I"}, {"start": "00:30:51", "end": "00:30:57", "text": "understand the idea of seeing a screen"}, {"start": "00:30:54", "end": "00:30:59", "text": "memory or something some veil and then"}, {"start": "00:30:57", "end": "00:31:00", "text": "seeing past it and then being like oh is"}, {"start": "00:30:59", "end": "00:31:03", "text": "that all it is? And then once you have"}, {"start": "00:31:00", "end": "00:31:06", "text": "that information you can no longer go"}, {"start": "00:31:03", "end": "00:31:08", "text": "back. like someone who's readily read"}, {"start": "00:31:06", "end": "00:31:10", "text": "into how to hypnotize people, whether"}, {"start": "00:31:08", "end": "00:31:14", "text": "clinically or whether, you know, for"}, {"start": "00:31:10", "end": "00:31:16", "text": "entertainment, does have an edge on not"}, {"start": "00:31:14", "end": "00:31:18", "text": "being hypnotized."}, {"start": "00:31:16", "end": "00:31:20", "text": ">> I think the tall grays are stronger at"}, {"start": "00:31:18", "end": "00:31:23", "text": "it. Um the ability to impose screen"}, {"start": "00:31:20", "end": "00:31:25", "text": "memories, stronger at it than the"}, {"start": "00:31:23", "end": "00:31:28", "text": ">> stronger psychically."}, {"start": "00:31:25", "end": "00:31:31", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. the the short grays. Um,"}, {"start": "00:31:28", "end": "00:31:33", "text": "almost every time I've seen them, uh,"}, {"start": "00:31:31", "end": "00:31:34", "text": "there was there was no"}, {"start": "00:31:33", "end": "00:31:36", "text": ">> no costume."}, {"start": "00:31:34", "end": "00:31:38", "text": ">> Yeah. No, it was just them. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:31:36", "end": "00:31:41", "text": ">> Okay. So, let's get into that. I think"}, {"start": "00:31:38", "end": "00:31:43", "text": "the first, um, your first runin was"}, {"start": "00:31:41", "end": "00:31:46", "text": "1994, if I'm not mistaken."}, {"start": "00:31:43", "end": "00:31:48", "text": ">> The first run out, I would say."}, {"start": "00:31:46", "end": "00:31:50", "text": ">> Right. The first that I remember where I"}, {"start": "00:31:48", "end": "00:31:54", "text": "actually saw Grace was in 1994 was in"}, {"start": "00:31:50", "end": "00:31:55", "text": "Wheeling, Illinois. Uh, I had a I was"}, {"start": "00:31:54", "end": "00:31:59", "text": "sharing a two-bedroom apartment with my"}, {"start": "00:31:55", "end": "00:32:00", "text": "childhood best friend, Joe. And um, he"}, {"start": "00:31:59", "end": "00:32:02", "text": "wasn't there that weekend, but this"}, {"start": "00:32:00", "end": "00:32:07", "text": "happened on August 20th, 1994. It was a"}, {"start": "00:32:02", "end": "00:32:09", "text": "Saturday. I looked it up. And um, by I"}, {"start": "00:32:07", "end": "00:32:10", "text": "remembered it was the third Saturday of"}, {"start": "00:32:09", "end": "00:32:13", "text": "the month, and that's why I looked it up"}, {"start": "00:32:10", "end": "00:32:16", "text": "and found out it was August 20th. Um,"}, {"start": "00:32:13", "end": "00:32:18", "text": "but it was uh, I don't know, maybe 6:30"}, {"start": "00:32:16", "end": "00:32:22", "text": "in the morning. the sun was coming in"}, {"start": "00:32:18", "end": "00:32:25", "text": "and uh I was aware that that the morning"}, {"start": "00:32:22", "end": "00:32:28", "text": "light was in the room and I had become"}, {"start": "00:32:25", "end": "00:32:32", "text": "conscious in my sleep. So it was a it"}, {"start": "00:32:28", "end": "00:32:36", "text": "was a lucid dream state. Um but I wanted"}, {"start": "00:32:32", "end": "00:32:38", "text": "to wake up and um so I you know I had"}, {"start": "00:32:36", "end": "00:32:40", "text": "plans that day and I was actively"}, {"start": "00:32:38", "end": "00:32:41", "text": "thinking about those plans while my eyes"}, {"start": "00:32:40", "end": "00:32:44", "text": "are closed. I'm like, \"All right, I'm"}, {"start": "00:32:41", "end": "00:32:47", "text": "going to wake up and and uh you know,"}, {"start": "00:32:44", "end": "00:32:49", "text": "take care of business.\" Um, and I"}, {"start": "00:32:47", "end": "00:32:51", "text": "couldn't open my eyes."}, {"start": "00:32:49", "end": "00:32:53", "text": "And then I'm like, \"Wait, that's weird.\""}, {"start": "00:32:51", "end": "00:32:55", "text": "So, I tried to move my body. I couldn't"}, {"start": "00:32:53", "end": "00:32:57", "text": "move my body. I'm like, \"All right, is"}, {"start": "00:32:55", "end": "00:32:58", "text": "this, you know, later on I'm like, was"}, {"start": "00:32:57", "end": "00:32:59", "text": "it"}, {"start": "00:32:58", "end": "00:33:01", "text": "like, could that have been sleep"}, {"start": "00:32:59", "end": "00:33:06", "text": "paralysis?\" I mean, it kind of fits the"}, {"start": "00:33:01", "end": "00:33:09", "text": "symptoms. But um as soon as I decided I"}, {"start": "00:33:06", "end": "00:33:12", "text": "wanted to wake up, uh an image flashed"}, {"start": "00:33:09", "end": "00:33:14", "text": "into my head of uh a green maple leaf"}, {"start": "00:33:12", "end": "00:33:16", "text": "with the sun uh above it shining down"}, {"start": "00:33:14", "end": "00:33:19", "text": "through it. And I could see the the"}, {"start": "00:33:16", "end": "00:33:22", "text": "gossamer structure of the leaf, the"}, {"start": "00:33:19", "end": "00:33:26", "text": "cells and the veins. And I was rotating"}, {"start": "00:33:22", "end": "00:33:28", "text": "underneath the the leaf itself,"}, {"start": "00:33:26", "end": "00:33:31", "text": "and there was like this really sickly"}, {"start": "00:33:28", "end": "00:33:33", "text": "music box type music playing. And um it"}, {"start": "00:33:31", "end": "00:33:36", "text": "was it was just just a sick melody that"}, {"start": "00:33:33", "end": "00:33:39", "text": "I I it was disturbing. It almost felt"}, {"start": "00:33:36", "end": "00:33:42", "text": "like a horror movie. Um but it felt like"}, {"start": "00:33:39", "end": "00:33:44", "text": "it was meant to distract me, to dazzle"}, {"start": "00:33:42", "end": "00:33:47", "text": "me, you know, like dangling keys in"}, {"start": "00:33:44", "end": "00:33:50", "text": "front of a baby kind of a thing. Um, so"}, {"start": "00:33:47", "end": "00:33:52", "text": "I started to panic and at first I"}, {"start": "00:33:50", "end": "00:33:53", "text": "couldn't move, but then I started to"}, {"start": "00:33:52", "end": "00:33:55", "text": "shake and I felt the bed shaking"}, {"start": "00:33:53", "end": "00:33:58", "text": "underneath me and I was finally able to"}, {"start": "00:33:55", "end": "00:34:00", "text": "pop open my eyes, set up straight in bed"}, {"start": "00:33:58", "end": "00:34:04", "text": "and as fast as I could turn my head to"}, {"start": "00:34:00", "end": "00:34:07", "text": "the left, I saw them four small uh"}, {"start": "00:34:04", "end": "00:34:10", "text": "creatures. They ashen gray bulbous"}, {"start": "00:34:07", "end": "00:34:11", "text": "heads, big black eyes, uh, dark"}, {"start": "00:34:10", "end": "00:34:14", "text": "coveralls from their head down from"}, {"start": "00:34:11", "end": "00:34:16", "text": "their neck down to their their feet. And"}, {"start": "00:34:14", "end": "00:34:18", "text": "they whooshed out of my room. Whoosh!"}, {"start": "00:34:16", "end": "00:34:20", "text": "Whoosh! Whoosh! Whoosh! Like they were"}, {"start": "00:34:18", "end": "00:34:22", "text": "propelled. They They weren't running."}, {"start": "00:34:20", "end": "00:34:26", "text": "They were moving too fast for something"}, {"start": "00:34:22", "end": "00:34:28", "text": "so small to run. Uh they were propelled"}, {"start": "00:34:26", "end": "00:34:30", "text": "like like And it the way they"}, {"start": "00:34:28", "end": "00:34:32", "text": "accelerated, it was kind of like they"}, {"start": "00:34:30", "end": "00:34:35", "text": "were at the end of a taut bungee cord"}, {"start": "00:34:32", "end": "00:34:37", "text": "that was snapped loose and they just"}, {"start": "00:34:35", "end": "00:34:39", "text": "accelerated right out right through my"}, {"start": "00:34:37", "end": "00:34:42", "text": "bedroom door, which was closed. I don't"}, {"start": "00:34:39", "end": "00:34:43", "text": "know why they chose the door. I They"}, {"start": "00:34:42", "end": "00:34:44", "text": "guess they could have gone through the"}, {"start": "00:34:43", "end": "00:34:46", "text": "wall, but they went through the door."}, {"start": "00:34:44", "end": "00:34:48", "text": ">> At this point, you're wide awake."}, {"start": "00:34:46", "end": "00:34:49", "text": ">> Oh, yeah. And and freaking out."}, {"start": "00:34:48", "end": "00:34:50", "text": ">> This is not one of those moments where"}, {"start": "00:34:49", "end": "00:34:50", "text": "you wake up twice."}, {"start": "00:34:50", "end": "00:34:52", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "00:34:50", "end": "00:34:52", "text": ">> You're wide awake in your bed and you're"}, {"start": "00:34:52", "end": "00:34:54", "text": "seeing this."}, {"start": "00:34:52", "end": "00:34:58", "text": ">> Yeah. As fast as I could turn my head,"}, {"start": "00:34:54", "end": "00:35:00", "text": "they you know it if I had turned my head"}, {"start": "00:34:58", "end": "00:35:01", "text": "ever so slightly slower, I would have"}, {"start": "00:35:00", "end": "00:35:02", "text": "missed them."}, {"start": "00:35:01", "end": "00:35:05", "text": ">> But you got a good enough glimpse."}, {"start": "00:35:02", "end": "00:35:10", "text": ">> Yeah. And um and it kind of burned in my"}, {"start": "00:35:05", "end": "00:35:11", "text": "memory. Um, so then I started I I'm like"}, {"start": "00:35:10", "end": "00:35:14", "text": "those those look like little gray"}, {"start": "00:35:11", "end": "00:35:16", "text": "aliens. So I I started like reading. So"}, {"start": "00:35:14", "end": "00:35:18", "text": "I I didn't do a lot of reading, but I"}, {"start": "00:35:16", "end": "00:35:21", "text": "read about the Betty and Barney Hill"}, {"start": "00:35:18", "end": "00:35:23", "text": "case and I was interested in that. And"}, {"start": "00:35:21", "end": "00:35:26", "text": "um and there was a lot of Bob Lazar"}, {"start": "00:35:23", "end": "00:35:28", "text": "stuff going on in 1994. Uh you know,"}, {"start": "00:35:26", "end": "00:35:30", "text": "videos that you could rent at the video"}, {"start": "00:35:28", "end": "00:35:33", "text": "store and they came out with that Testor"}, {"start": "00:35:30", "end": "00:35:35", "text": "model kit and uh I bought one of those."}, {"start": "00:35:33", "end": "00:35:37", "text": "And so I was interested in it in the mid"}, {"start": "00:35:35", "end": "00:35:38", "text": "'90s for a while as a result of seeing"}, {"start": "00:35:37", "end": "00:35:40", "text": "them in my room."}, {"start": "00:35:38", "end": "00:35:40", "text": ">> This was after seeing them. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:35:40", "end": "00:35:41", "text": ">> Not before."}, {"start": "00:35:40", "end": "00:35:42", "text": ">> After."}, {"start": "00:35:41", "end": "00:35:43", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:35:42", "end": "00:35:45", "text": ">> Um but I did not"}, {"start": "00:35:43", "end": "00:35:48", "text": ">> Was there was there any interest before?"}, {"start": "00:35:45", "end": "00:35:49", "text": "Were you at all like did you have a a"}, {"start": "00:35:48", "end": "00:35:51", "text": "mental image of what a gray looked like"}, {"start": "00:35:49", "end": "00:35:55", "text": "or like were you seeking them out in any"}, {"start": "00:35:51", "end": "00:35:58", "text": "capacity? I I did because I saw Whitley"}, {"start": "00:35:55", "end": "00:36:00", "text": "Straber's book uh like 5 years before"}, {"start": "00:35:58", "end": "00:36:02", "text": "that"}, {"start": "00:36:00", "end": "00:36:04", "text": ">> uh on uh an end cap."}, {"start": "00:36:02", "end": "00:36:07", "text": ">> Very different from a gray like a"}, {"start": "00:36:04", "end": "00:36:08", "text": "typical gray though cuz the skin tone"}, {"start": "00:36:07", "end": "00:36:09", "text": "isn't gray."}, {"start": "00:36:08", "end": "00:36:10", "text": ">> It's not an accurate drawing. That's"}, {"start": "00:36:09", "end": "00:36:13", "text": "that's supposed to be a representation"}, {"start": "00:36:10", "end": "00:36:14", "text": "of a tall gray and it's not accurate at"}, {"start": "00:36:13", "end": "00:36:16", "text": "all."}, {"start": "00:36:14", "end": "00:36:20", "text": "But it looked emotionally familiar to me"}, {"start": "00:36:16", "end": "00:36:23", "text": "when I I saw it at a at a grocery store"}, {"start": "00:36:20", "end": "00:36:25", "text": "at a jewel in Northwest Highway um in"}, {"start": "00:36:23", "end": "00:36:28", "text": "Displayplains. And it it was at a"}, {"start": "00:36:25", "end": "00:36:31", "text": "grocery store and it was $52"}, {"start": "00:36:28", "end": "00:36:34", "text": "and the paperback it was a first edition"}, {"start": "00:36:31", "end": "00:36:37", "text": "paperback. And so I got it and I read it"}, {"start": "00:36:34", "end": "00:36:39", "text": "because the cover freaked me out and I"}, {"start": "00:36:37", "end": "00:36:42", "text": "couldn't explain why."}, {"start": "00:36:39", "end": "00:36:43", "text": "Uh, but I read it and I still wasn't"}, {"start": "00:36:42", "end": "00:36:46", "text": "like it wasn't like bringing up memories"}, {"start": "00:36:43", "end": "00:36:49", "text": "or anything from earlier, nothing like"}, {"start": "00:36:46", "end": "00:36:51", "text": "that. Um, so maybe I didn't see any"}, {"start": "00:36:49", "end": "00:36:54", "text": "grays in the 70s. Maybe I I was"}, {"start": "00:36:51", "end": "00:36:55", "text": "unconscious for those encounters um with"}, {"start": "00:36:54", "end": "00:36:58", "text": "those orbs."}, {"start": "00:36:55", "end": "00:37:01", "text": ">> But um, you know, after they rendered me"}, {"start": "00:36:58", "end": "00:37:03", "text": "unconscious and and let's say if they"}, {"start": "00:37:01", "end": "00:37:06", "text": "had taken me, maybe I was asleep the"}, {"start": "00:37:03", "end": "00:37:11", "text": "whole time during the encounter. I don't"}, {"start": "00:37:06", "end": "00:37:14", "text": "know. But um but still that that cover"}, {"start": "00:37:11", "end": "00:37:15", "text": "on communion and this was like 1988 ' 89"}, {"start": "00:37:14", "end": "00:37:18", "text": "when I saw the book and I bought it,"}, {"start": "00:37:15", "end": "00:37:20", "text": ">> right? But I read it and then I set it"}, {"start": "00:37:18", "end": "00:37:23", "text": "aside. And then in 1994, I actually saw"}, {"start": "00:37:20", "end": "00:37:24", "text": "grays in my room just suddenly. I It"}, {"start": "00:37:23", "end": "00:37:27", "text": "wasn't like something I was like really"}, {"start": "00:37:24", "end": "00:37:28", "text": "into or it was just kind of like casual"}, {"start": "00:37:27", "end": "00:37:30", "text": "passing interest at the time,"}, {"start": "00:37:28", "end": "00:37:31", "text": ">> but very different as well from the"}, {"start": "00:37:30", "end": "00:37:34", "text": "description"}, {"start": "00:37:31", "end": "00:37:36", "text": ">> given in the book communion because,"}, {"start": "00:37:34", "end": "00:37:38", "text": ">> you know, the tinier beings that Whitley"}, {"start": "00:37:36", "end": "00:37:40", "text": "describes had hoods. These are more like"}, {"start": "00:37:38", "end": "00:37:42", "text": "little gargoyle figures like just"}, {"start": "00:37:40", "end": "00:37:44", "text": ">> I didn't see anything like that. You"}, {"start": "00:37:42", "end": "00:37:46", "text": "know, you you saw like kind of the tall"}, {"start": "00:37:44", "end": "00:37:48", "text": "version in a short form. No."}, {"start": "00:37:46", "end": "00:37:49", "text": ">> Um but with gray skin."}, {"start": "00:37:48", "end": "00:37:50", "text": ">> No, they No, they"}, {"start": "00:37:49", "end": "00:37:54", "text": ">> they look different."}, {"start": "00:37:50", "end": "00:37:57", "text": ">> If if you ever saw the Skinny Bob uh uh"}, {"start": "00:37:54", "end": "00:37:57", "text": "footage, uh which was supposedly Soviet"}, {"start": "00:37:57", "end": "00:37:59", "text": "footage."}, {"start": "00:37:57", "end": "00:37:59", "text": ">> Yeah, we we reviewed it here on the"}, {"start": "00:37:59", "end": "00:38:01", "text": "channel."}, {"start": "00:37:59", "end": "00:38:02", "text": ">> That That was them. The four little"}, {"start": "00:38:01", "end": "00:38:03", "text": "skinny bobs."}, {"start": "00:38:02", "end": "00:38:04", "text": ">> Exactly like that."}, {"start": "00:38:03", "end": "00:38:05", "text": ">> Exactly like that."}, {"start": "00:38:04", "end": "00:38:07", "text": ">> Three and a half feet tall."}, {"start": "00:38:05", "end": "00:38:10", "text": ">> Exactly like that. They're little worker"}, {"start": "00:38:07", "end": "00:38:12", "text": "bees is what they seem to be. Um that"}, {"start": "00:38:10", "end": "00:38:13", "text": ">> Do you believe that Skinny Bob footage"}, {"start": "00:38:12", "end": "00:38:17", "text": "to be authentic?"}, {"start": "00:38:13", "end": "00:38:17", "text": ">> I do, but um somebody dressed it up with"}, {"start": "00:38:17", "end": "00:38:18", "text": "like"}, {"start": "00:38:17", "end": "00:38:19", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:38:18", "end": "00:38:22", "text": ">> fake scratch marks and"}, {"start": "00:38:19", "end": "00:38:23", "text": ">> Right. Uh but but the original footage"}, {"start": "00:38:22", "end": "00:38:25", "text": "Yeah. that was real because that's"}, {"start": "00:38:23", "end": "00:38:27", "text": "exactly how they look. That's exactly"}, {"start": "00:38:25", "end": "00:38:29", "text": "how they move."}, {"start": "00:38:27", "end": "00:38:31", "text": ">> And really when I Yeah. The first time I"}, {"start": "00:38:29", "end": "00:38:34", "text": "saw it, I freaked out"}, {"start": "00:38:31", "end": "00:38:37", "text": ">> because cuz it was like,"}, {"start": "00:38:34", "end": "00:38:37", "text": "you know, you your your heart races a"}, {"start": "00:38:37", "end": "00:38:38", "text": "little bit."}, {"start": "00:38:37", "end": "00:38:40", "text": ">> Yeah. I was thinking, \"Oh my god,"}, {"start": "00:38:38", "end": "00:38:42", "text": "they're real.\""}, {"start": "00:38:40", "end": "00:38:45", "text": ">> Right. Yeah. Because it was like it"}, {"start": "00:38:42", "end": "00:38:46", "text": "wasn't like I had a visual memory that I"}, {"start": "00:38:45", "end": "00:38:47", "text": "could sketch on paper,"}, {"start": "00:38:46", "end": "00:38:47", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:38:47", "end": "00:38:49", "text": ">> But when"}, {"start": "00:38:47", "end": "00:38:52", "text": ">> you knew it when you saw it."}, {"start": "00:38:49", "end": "00:38:54", "text": ">> When you saw it, you knew it. And And so"}, {"start": "00:38:52", "end": "00:38:56", "text": "I I know that's authentic. I I mean,"}, {"start": "00:38:54", "end": "00:38:59", "text": "it's just every fiber of my being, you"}, {"start": "00:38:56", "end": "00:39:02", "text": "you even if if you had a guy come up and"}, {"start": "00:38:59", "end": "00:39:04", "text": "say, \"Hey, look, I you know, I faked"}, {"start": "00:39:02", "end": "00:39:06", "text": "this with his 3D software.\" I'm I'm"}, {"start": "00:39:04", "end": "00:39:08", "text": "going to think he's trying to make a"}, {"start": "00:39:06", "end": "00:39:10", "text": "name for himself. And he's faking it,"}, {"start": "00:39:08", "end": "00:39:11", "text": "you know. Fake faking faking it,"}, {"start": "00:39:10", "end": "00:39:13", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:39:11", "end": "00:39:15", "text": ">> Um but yeah, so"}, {"start": "00:39:13", "end": "00:39:16", "text": ">> you'd put you bet your life on it."}, {"start": "00:39:15", "end": "00:39:18", "text": ">> Yeah. The four those are four little"}, {"start": "00:39:16", "end": "00:39:19", "text": "skinny bobs that I saw running out of my"}, {"start": "00:39:18", "end": "00:39:22", "text": "room."}, {"start": "00:39:19", "end": "00:39:24", "text": ">> You would you would swear that that is"}, {"start": "00:39:22", "end": "00:39:26", "text": "real. That sk that's wild."}, {"start": "00:39:24", "end": "00:39:29", "text": ">> Yeah, absolutely. And because I saw the"}, {"start": "00:39:26", "end": "00:39:31", "text": "next time I saw a skinny Bob was um 26"}, {"start": "00:39:29", "end": "00:39:34", "text": "years later."}, {"start": "00:39:31", "end": "00:39:36", "text": ">> Uh this was in uh 2020."}, {"start": "00:39:34", "end": "00:39:38", "text": ">> This is your next experience. Yeah. So"}, {"start": "00:39:36", "end": "00:39:41", "text": "there's quite a quite a time frame quite"}, {"start": "00:39:38", "end": "00:39:44", "text": "a quite a difference in time and before"}, {"start": "00:39:41", "end": "00:39:46", "text": "we get to that next experience"}, {"start": "00:39:44", "end": "00:39:48", "text": "that aotted amount of time is there a"}, {"start": "00:39:46", "end": "00:39:50", "text": "significance there? I think that they"}, {"start": "00:39:48", "end": "00:39:52", "text": "come they they have a schedule that they"}, {"start": "00:39:50", "end": "00:39:55", "text": "follow when when they they seem to"}, {"start": "00:39:52", "end": "00:39:58", "text": "follow family lines and they have a"}, {"start": "00:39:55", "end": "00:39:59", "text": "schedule and they seem to uh every 20"}, {"start": "00:39:58", "end": "00:40:02", "text": "years they'll come for a four-year"}, {"start": "00:39:59", "end": "00:40:04", "text": "rotation and they'll come every four to"}, {"start": "00:40:02", "end": "00:40:08", "text": "six weeks for four years. So, you'll"}, {"start": "00:40:04", "end": "00:40:11", "text": "have a a a rash, you know, like however"}, {"start": "00:40:08", "end": "00:40:14", "text": "many encounters, like 48 encounters over"}, {"start": "00:40:11", "end": "00:40:18", "text": "a 4-year period, sometimes more than"}, {"start": "00:40:14", "end": "00:40:20", "text": "that. Um, and then 20 years off and then"}, {"start": "00:40:18", "end": "00:40:24", "text": "it happens again. So, I'm not expecting"}, {"start": "00:40:20", "end": "00:40:26", "text": "them back in my life until I'm in my 70s"}, {"start": "00:40:24", "end": "00:40:28", "text": "cuz when they came, I was uh when they"}, {"start": "00:40:26", "end": "00:40:29", "text": "started coming back, I was 51"}, {"start": "00:40:28", "end": "00:40:31", "text": ">> pretty recently."}, {"start": "00:40:29", "end": "00:40:34", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. I'm 57 now. That's just"}, {"start": "00:40:31", "end": "00:40:37", "text": "something that um is not readily talked"}, {"start": "00:40:34", "end": "00:40:39", "text": "about anymore. It seems it seems to me"}, {"start": "00:40:37", "end": "00:40:41", "text": "like the abduction phenomenon and that"}, {"start": "00:40:39", "end": "00:40:43", "text": "might only be because of the coverage of"}, {"start": "00:40:41", "end": "00:40:45", "text": "it, but it seems to have dissipated in"}, {"start": "00:40:43", "end": "00:40:47", "text": "some way compared to, you know, the"}, {"start": "00:40:45", "end": "00:40:49", "text": "amount, but I I speak to a lot of people"}, {"start": "00:40:47", "end": "00:40:51", "text": "who are abductees and they they tend to"}, {"start": "00:40:49", "end": "00:40:54", "text": "disagree. They're like, \"No, this is"}, {"start": "00:40:51", "end": "00:40:56", "text": "ongoing. This is still happening today.\""}, {"start": "00:40:54", "end": "00:40:58", "text": ">> Popular culture might have uh made it"}, {"start": "00:40:56", "end": "00:41:00", "text": "pass a over the years."}, {"start": "00:40:58", "end": "00:41:04", "text": ">> Sure. But it's still very strong going"}, {"start": "00:41:00", "end": "00:41:06", "text": "on. Um, uh, there's somebody I can't"}, {"start": "00:41:04", "end": "00:41:11", "text": "really talk about, uh, for privacy"}, {"start": "00:41:06", "end": "00:41:14", "text": "concerns, but, uh, I I may have, uh,"}, {"start": "00:41:11", "end": "00:41:15", "text": "possibly led them to this person"}, {"start": "00:41:14", "end": "00:41:16", "text": ">> and, uh,"}, {"start": "00:41:15", "end": "00:41:18", "text": ">> they are now experiencing the"}, {"start": "00:41:16", "end": "00:41:20", "text": "phenomenon."}, {"start": "00:41:18", "end": "00:41:22", "text": ">> They've hinted at that, right?"}, {"start": "00:41:20", "end": "00:41:24", "text": ">> Yeah. but uh but wouldn't give me any"}, {"start": "00:41:22", "end": "00:41:26", "text": "details because it they didn't want to"}, {"start": "00:41:24", "end": "00:41:28", "text": "be dragged into"}, {"start": "00:41:26", "end": "00:41:30", "text": ">> into into this uh talk"}, {"start": "00:41:28", "end": "00:41:32", "text": ">> rightfully so."}, {"start": "00:41:30", "end": "00:41:34", "text": ">> Um it takes a lot of courage you know to"}, {"start": "00:41:32", "end": "00:41:36", "text": "to talk about this stuff publicly for"}, {"start": "00:41:34", "end": "00:41:39", "text": "sure and to you know let people in"}, {"start": "00:41:36", "end": "00:41:41", "text": "especially when you're dealing with some"}, {"start": "00:41:39", "end": "00:41:43", "text": "of the procedures that are involved."}, {"start": "00:41:41", "end": "00:41:45", "text": "They're they're quite invasive."}, {"start": "00:41:43", "end": "00:41:47", "text": ">> They're the most personal. You know,"}, {"start": "00:41:45", "end": "00:41:49", "text": "it's as personal as you're thinking out"}, {"start": "00:41:47", "end": "00:41:51", "text": "there. Like that's"}, {"start": "00:41:49", "end": "00:41:54", "text": ">> it has to do with reproduction. It has"}, {"start": "00:41:51", "end": "00:41:57", "text": "to do with some type of,"}, {"start": "00:41:54", "end": "00:42:00", "text": "you know, insemination or or whatnot."}, {"start": "00:41:57", "end": "00:42:02", "text": "Like there is some very private details"}, {"start": "00:42:00", "end": "00:42:03", "text": "that uh there are some very private"}, {"start": "00:42:02", "end": "00:42:05", "text": "details that you go over in this book"}, {"start": "00:42:03", "end": "00:42:06", "text": "and that you know, Whitley has provided"}, {"start": "00:42:05", "end": "00:42:08", "text": "as well in his book and"}, {"start": "00:42:06", "end": "00:42:15", "text": ">> and and some I haven't given."}, {"start": "00:42:08", "end": "00:42:18", "text": ">> Sure. Um Okay. So the next time"}, {"start": "00:42:15", "end": "00:42:21", "text": "you were to meet any of these beings and"}, {"start": "00:42:18", "end": "00:42:23", "text": "because you had so far only met four"}, {"start": "00:42:21", "end": "00:42:24", "text": "skinny bobs as you put it, these short"}, {"start": "00:42:23", "end": "00:42:26", "text": "ones."}, {"start": "00:42:24", "end": "00:42:26", "text": "But then 20 years later,"}, {"start": "00:42:26", "end": "00:42:32", "text": ">> 26 years"}, {"start": "00:42:26", "end": "00:42:34", "text": ">> 26 years later, you are suddenly awake,"}, {"start": "00:42:32", "end": "00:42:35", "text": "right? But let me back up 2 months."}, {"start": "00:42:34", "end": "00:42:39", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "00:42:35", "end": "00:42:39", "text": ">> I noticed things starting to go ary in"}, {"start": "00:42:39", "end": "00:42:43", "text": "my bedroom."}, {"start": "00:42:39", "end": "00:42:45", "text": ">> Oh, that's right. in January of 2020."}, {"start": "00:42:43", "end": "00:42:46", "text": "Between when I'd go to bed at night and"}, {"start": "00:42:45", "end": "00:42:48", "text": "when I would wake up in the morning,"}, {"start": "00:42:46", "end": "00:42:50", "text": "something would have changed or been"}, {"start": "00:42:48", "end": "00:42:53", "text": "different in my bedroom. And sometimes"}, {"start": "00:42:50", "end": "00:42:57", "text": "they were quite noticeable. Um, the most"}, {"start": "00:42:53", "end": "00:43:00", "text": "significant was uh I'd wake up and my"}, {"start": "00:42:57", "end": "00:43:03", "text": "bedding was 90° oriented the wrong"}, {"start": "00:43:00", "end": "00:43:05", "text": "direction as though it had been"}, {"start": "00:43:03", "end": "00:43:07", "text": "completely removed and then put back on"}, {"start": "00:43:05", "end": "00:43:11", "text": "the wrong way. Uh, I have these uh,"}, {"start": "00:43:07", "end": "00:43:14", "text": "black and gold stripes on my um, duvet"}, {"start": "00:43:11", "end": "00:43:18", "text": "and uh, it it laying across my legs and"}, {"start": "00:43:14", "end": "00:43:21", "text": "then I'd wake up in the morning and it"}, {"start": "00:43:18", "end": "00:43:24", "text": "was vertical stripes. Uh, I'm like"}, {"start": "00:43:21", "end": "00:43:27", "text": "that's weird. But what made it weirder"}, {"start": "00:43:24", "end": "00:43:29", "text": "was the fact that um, I normally have"}, {"start": "00:43:27", "end": "00:43:32", "text": "like a back scratcher and a I sleep"}, {"start": "00:43:29", "end": "00:43:34", "text": "alone. I have a back scratcher and a"}, {"start": "00:43:32", "end": "00:43:37", "text": "night mask, a sleep mask that I put on"}, {"start": "00:43:34", "end": "00:43:39", "text": "on top of the bed. Uh I might need it in"}, {"start": "00:43:37", "end": "00:43:41", "text": "the middle of the night, but uh normally"}, {"start": "00:43:39", "end": "00:43:43", "text": "if I have a rough night and I'm like"}, {"start": "00:43:41", "end": "00:43:46", "text": "tossing and turning, these things always"}, {"start": "00:43:43", "end": "00:43:50", "text": "get kicked off onto uh the floor on the"}, {"start": "00:43:46", "end": "00:43:51", "text": "opposite side of the bed. And um so when"}, {"start": "00:43:50", "end": "00:43:53", "text": "I woke up and the thing was oriented the"}, {"start": "00:43:51", "end": "00:43:56", "text": "wrong way, I expected those things would"}, {"start": "00:43:53", "end": "00:43:58", "text": "be on the other side on the floor, but"}, {"start": "00:43:56", "end": "00:44:00", "text": "they weren't. They were neatly placed"}, {"start": "00:43:58", "end": "00:44:03", "text": "side by side with each other under the"}, {"start": "00:44:00", "end": "00:44:04", "text": "top sheet right next to my body. And I'm"}, {"start": "00:44:03", "end": "00:44:07", "text": "like, that's weird. I wouldn't do that"}, {"start": "00:44:04", "end": "00:44:10", "text": "because you'd roll on to"}, {"start": "00:44:07", "end": "00:44:12", "text": "uh this sharpedged back scratcher. It"}, {"start": "00:44:10", "end": "00:44:13", "text": "wake you up. It'd be uncomfortable."}, {"start": "00:44:12", "end": "00:44:15", "text": "Maybe you'd get a scratch. I don't know."}, {"start": "00:44:13", "end": "00:44:18", "text": ">> So, you'd suspected that somebody"}, {"start": "00:44:15", "end": "00:44:19", "text": ">> Yeah. Right. It just didn't make sense."}, {"start": "00:44:18", "end": "00:44:23", "text": "It didn't add up because I know I didn't"}, {"start": "00:44:19", "end": "00:44:27", "text": "do that, you know. Um and then another"}, {"start": "00:44:23", "end": "00:44:30", "text": "time was uh I woke up in the morning and"}, {"start": "00:44:27", "end": "00:44:33", "text": "I had uh my earplugs I had these orange"}, {"start": "00:44:30", "end": "00:44:37", "text": "foam earplugs had been removed from from"}, {"start": "00:44:33", "end": "00:44:40", "text": "my ears. Now normally if I remove them I"}, {"start": "00:44:37", "end": "00:44:41", "text": "just throw them onto the nightstand just"}, {"start": "00:44:40", "end": "00:44:43", "text": "willy-nilly just throw them like a"}, {"start": "00:44:41", "end": "00:44:46", "text": "paradise."}, {"start": "00:44:43", "end": "00:44:48", "text": "And uh so when I didn't remember"}, {"start": "00:44:46", "end": "00:44:50", "text": "removing them, I I I looked on the bed"}, {"start": "00:44:48", "end": "00:44:52", "text": "around me to see if they had fallen out"}, {"start": "00:44:50", "end": "00:44:55", "text": "of my my ears, but they didn't. And then"}, {"start": "00:44:52", "end": "00:44:57", "text": "I I looked to my my nightstand right"}, {"start": "00:44:55", "end": "00:44:59", "text": "next to me and they were stacked on"}, {"start": "00:44:57", "end": "00:45:02", "text": "their ends neatly, daintily next to each"}, {"start": "00:44:59", "end": "00:45:06", "text": "other. I saw that and my eyes went wide"}, {"start": "00:45:02", "end": "00:45:09", "text": "like whoa. Like how did that happen? I"}, {"start": "00:45:06", "end": "00:45:12", "text": "didn't do that. I know I didn't do that."}, {"start": "00:45:09", "end": "00:45:14", "text": "Um later on, years later, I would meet a"}, {"start": "00:45:12", "end": "00:45:17", "text": "woman who experienced that exact same"}, {"start": "00:45:14", "end": "00:45:18", "text": "phenomenon with her earplugs, which blew"}, {"start": "00:45:17", "end": "00:45:18", "text": "my mind."}, {"start": "00:45:18", "end": "00:45:21", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:45:18", "end": "00:45:23", "text": ">> Yeah, that was validation at least on"}, {"start": "00:45:21", "end": "00:45:27", "text": "that one little detail that I just that"}, {"start": "00:45:23", "end": "00:45:31", "text": "that was awesome. Um, so anyway, I I"}, {"start": "00:45:27", "end": "00:45:34", "text": "after several incidents between"}, {"start": "00:45:31", "end": "00:45:39", "text": "January and late March,"}, {"start": "00:45:34", "end": "00:45:43", "text": "um, I decided to do an experiment like,"}, {"start": "00:45:39", "end": "00:45:45", "text": "yeah, this this is"}, {"start": "00:45:43", "end": "00:45:49", "text": "this is part for me of the most"}, {"start": "00:45:45", "end": "00:45:52", "text": "fascinating um part of your case because"}, {"start": "00:45:49", "end": "00:45:57", "text": "it's it's such a crude and strange"}, {"start": "00:45:52", "end": "00:46:00", "text": "method to its I mean it it you know when"}, {"start": "00:45:57", "end": "00:46:02", "text": "I when I read this I was like no way it"}, {"start": "00:46:00", "end": "00:46:05", "text": "it's it's the equivalent of you know"}, {"start": "00:46:02", "end": "00:46:10", "text": "putting an SOS sign on on the beach with"}, {"start": "00:46:05", "end": "00:46:12", "text": "rocks. Um, but you decided, hey, if"}, {"start": "00:46:10", "end": "00:46:14", "text": "something's entering my room and if"}, {"start": "00:46:12", "end": "00:46:17", "text": "something is tampering with my things or"}, {"start": "00:46:14", "end": "00:46:19", "text": "with me potentially,"}, {"start": "00:46:17", "end": "00:46:20", "text": "um, and you suspect that it might be"}, {"start": "00:46:19", "end": "00:46:22", "text": "these little creatures that you saw"}, {"start": "00:46:20", "end": "00:46:26", "text": "years before,"}, {"start": "00:46:22", "end": "00:46:27", "text": "why not try to communicate with them?"}, {"start": "00:46:26", "end": "00:46:29", "text": "And that just kind of blew my mind when"}, {"start": "00:46:27", "end": "00:46:31", "text": "I read that because I don't think that's"}, {"start": "00:46:29", "end": "00:46:32", "text": "where very many people's heads ends up"}, {"start": "00:46:31", "end": "00:46:34", "text": "when they think about this stuff."}, {"start": "00:46:32", "end": "00:46:34", "text": "They're more like, please do not come"}, {"start": "00:46:34", "end": "00:46:37", "text": "back"}, {"start": "00:46:34", "end": "00:46:40", "text": ">> if you Right. Well, if you can't be"}, {"start": "00:46:37", "end": "00:46:42", "text": "awake to communicate,"}, {"start": "00:46:40", "end": "00:46:45", "text": "how how else do you going to do it? So,"}, {"start": "00:46:42", "end": "00:46:48", "text": "what did you do? I created a poster. I"}, {"start": "00:46:45", "end": "00:46:50", "text": "uh I went online and I found a picture"}, {"start": "00:46:48", "end": "00:46:55", "text": "of a small gray alien that looked like"}, {"start": "00:46:50", "end": "00:46:57", "text": "the ones I saw in 1994, and it was uh an"}, {"start": "00:46:55", "end": "00:47:00", "text": "illustration of a little skinny bob. And"}, {"start": "00:46:57", "end": "00:47:02", "text": "I'm like, \"Okay, that's the one.\" So, I"}, {"start": "00:47:00", "end": "00:47:05", "text": "put the illustration on the poster and I"}, {"start": "00:47:02", "end": "00:47:07", "text": "said, \"Uh, I want to remember your"}, {"start": "00:47:05", "end": "00:47:09", "text": "visit. Let me remember you. I will not"}, {"start": "00:47:07", "end": "00:47:12", "text": "harm.\" In big block letters on a 8 and 1"}, {"start": "00:47:09", "end": "00:47:16", "text": "half x 11 poster. I printed it out"}, {"start": "00:47:12", "end": "00:47:19", "text": "glossy paper and I taped it on my wall"}, {"start": "00:47:16", "end": "00:47:22", "text": "above my headboard and um and I thought,"}, {"start": "00:47:19", "end": "00:47:25", "text": "\"Okay, I hope I hope the babysitter"}, {"start": "00:47:22", "end": "00:47:26", "text": "doesn't enter my room or somebody like"}, {"start": "00:47:25", "end": "00:47:27", "text": "sees this cuz they're going to think I'm"}, {"start": "00:47:26", "end": "00:47:29", "text": "I'm Looney Tunes.\""}, {"start": "00:47:27", "end": "00:47:33", "text": ">> Oh, 100%. Oh yeah. I mean, this is like"}, {"start": "00:47:29", "end": "00:47:34", "text": "this is really strange stuff. Uh, so I'm"}, {"start": "00:47:33", "end": "00:47:35", "text": "like,"}, {"start": "00:47:34", "end": "00:47:36", "text": ">> yeah. Let alone bringing a date home or"}, {"start": "00:47:35", "end": "00:47:38", "text": "something or like"}, {"start": "00:47:36", "end": "00:47:40", "text": ">> Oh, no. I would rip it down. I'm like,"}, {"start": "00:47:38", "end": "00:47:42", "text": ">> last thing you want them to see."}, {"start": "00:47:40", "end": "00:47:43", "text": ">> I'm not letting you into my weird little"}, {"start": "00:47:42", "end": "00:47:45", "text": "world just yet."}, {"start": "00:47:43", "end": "00:47:48", "text": ">> Fair enough."}, {"start": "00:47:45", "end": "00:47:51", "text": ">> So, um, what I did was, um, I put it up"}, {"start": "00:47:48", "end": "00:47:54", "text": "there and a week goes by, nothing."}, {"start": "00:47:51", "end": "00:47:56", "text": "Nothing. And, um, then as the days go"}, {"start": "00:47:54", "end": "00:47:59", "text": "by, I kind of forget it's even up there."}, {"start": "00:47:56", "end": "00:48:02", "text": "I just ignore it. I I have no idea how"}, {"start": "00:47:59", "end": "00:48:03", "text": "long it's going to be, if ever, you"}, {"start": "00:48:02", "end": "00:48:05", "text": "know, and maybe nothing will happen and"}, {"start": "00:48:03", "end": "00:48:09", "text": "I'll just tear it down and forget the"}, {"start": "00:48:05", "end": "00:48:12", "text": "whole thing. Um, but uh"}, {"start": "00:48:09", "end": "00:48:15", "text": "2 weeks later, something happened and I"}, {"start": "00:48:12", "end": "00:48:17", "text": "woke up in my garage wearing nothing but"}, {"start": "00:48:15", "end": "00:48:19", "text": "my boxer briefs that I was wearing to"}, {"start": "00:48:17", "end": "00:48:21", "text": "bed. And I was suspended off the"}, {"start": "00:48:19", "end": "00:48:25", "text": "concrete floor and I was tilted forward"}, {"start": "00:48:21", "end": "00:48:28", "text": "at a 25 30° angle and I was looking down"}, {"start": "00:48:25", "end": "00:48:31", "text": "at one of those little skinny bobs"}, {"start": "00:48:28", "end": "00:48:35", "text": "and he was wearing uh dark coveralls"}, {"start": "00:48:31", "end": "00:48:38", "text": "and uh it was dark and very dark in the"}, {"start": "00:48:35", "end": "00:48:40", "text": "the garage but there was light streaming"}, {"start": "00:48:38", "end": "00:48:44", "text": "in the side window illuminating the um"}, {"start": "00:48:40", "end": "00:48:48", "text": "the small gray's uh left side and to my"}, {"start": "00:48:44", "end": "00:48:51", "text": "left was my uh I had a 2002 uh Chevy"}, {"start": "00:48:48", "end": "00:48:54", "text": "Trail trailblazer and then I could see"}, {"start": "00:48:51", "end": "00:48:56", "text": "like the the paint cans and the the the"}, {"start": "00:48:54", "end": "00:48:58", "text": "shelves behind the gray and it just"}, {"start": "00:48:56", "end": "00:48:59", "text": "noticing my environment. I was able to"}, {"start": "00:48:58", "end": "00:49:01", "text": "turn my head"}, {"start": "00:48:59", "end": "00:49:04", "text": ">> the could you feel the environment like"}, {"start": "00:49:01", "end": "00:49:07", "text": "the cold the smell it was like being"}, {"start": "00:49:04", "end": "00:49:09", "text": "drunk but without the buzzy feeling."}, {"start": "00:49:07", "end": "00:49:12", "text": ">> You're you're in a state of pure"}, {"start": "00:49:09", "end": "00:49:16", "text": "awareness. You're very awake. pure"}, {"start": "00:49:12", "end": "00:49:18", "text": "awareness, but you're you're you're uh"}, {"start": "00:49:16", "end": "00:49:22", "text": "deaf and dumb. Like you can't think"}, {"start": "00:49:18", "end": "00:49:23", "text": "straight. Um and this thing spoke to me."}, {"start": "00:49:22", "end": "00:49:25", "text": "Words in my mind. Just"}, {"start": "00:49:23", "end": "00:49:26", "text": ">> words. Actual words."}, {"start": "00:49:25", "end": "00:49:27", "text": ">> Yeah. Were actual English words in my"}, {"start": "00:49:26", "end": "00:49:28", "text": "mind."}, {"start": "00:49:27", "end": "00:49:30", "text": ">> And there was a voice to these."}, {"start": "00:49:28", "end": "00:49:35", "text": ">> It well it sounded like a voice, but it"}, {"start": "00:49:30", "end": "00:49:36", "text": "was uh but it you know I mean it"}, {"start": "00:49:35", "end": "00:49:38", "text": ">> Yeah. It's hard to"}, {"start": "00:49:36", "end": "00:49:40", "text": ">> It didn't have an accent or any It was"}, {"start": "00:49:38", "end": "00:49:43", "text": "like The closest would be like a"}, {"start": "00:49:40", "end": "00:49:46", "text": "Midwestern accent, you know, just very"}, {"start": "00:49:43", "end": "00:49:48", "text": "very clear syllables and and just It"}, {"start": "00:49:46", "end": "00:49:50", "text": "didn't sound like mechanical. It it"}, {"start": "00:49:48", "end": "00:49:52", "text": ">> didn't sound familiar."}, {"start": "00:49:50", "end": "00:49:54", "text": ">> No, it it was just just words in my mind"}, {"start": "00:49:52", "end": "00:49:56", "text": "that that maybe my brain interpreted as"}, {"start": "00:49:54", "end": "00:49:57", "text": "English or maybe it knew English. I"}, {"start": "00:49:56", "end": "00:49:58", "text": "don't know."}, {"start": "00:49:57", "end": "00:50:01", "text": ">> Was it stern?"}, {"start": "00:49:58", "end": "00:50:02", "text": ">> Um, no. It was just very matter of fact."}, {"start": "00:50:01", "end": "00:50:05", "text": "And"}, {"start": "00:50:02", "end": "00:50:07", "text": ">> it said to me uh apparently in response"}, {"start": "00:50:05", "end": "00:50:08", "text": "to the poster that I want to remember"}, {"start": "00:50:07", "end": "00:50:10", "text": "you guys, it said, \"We can't allow you"}, {"start": "00:50:08", "end": "00:50:14", "text": "to remember our visit or else my"}, {"start": "00:50:10", "end": "00:50:17", "text": "superiors will know about it.\" And"}, {"start": "00:50:14", "end": "00:50:20", "text": "before I could formulate a response or a"}, {"start": "00:50:17", "end": "00:50:23", "text": "question cuz I was I was confused. I I"}, {"start": "00:50:20", "end": "00:50:25", "text": "didn't like what am I seeing?"}, {"start": "00:50:23", "end": "00:50:27", "text": "Before I could formulate any kind of"}, {"start": "00:50:25", "end": "00:50:30", "text": "response, I was instantly unconscious"}, {"start": "00:50:27", "end": "00:50:32", "text": "again. and not dreaming sleep, black"}, {"start": "00:50:30", "end": "00:50:35", "text": "sleep, you know, just completely black"}, {"start": "00:50:32", "end": "00:50:37", "text": "sleep. And then when I woke up, I woke"}, {"start": "00:50:35", "end": "00:50:41", "text": "up from a black sleep. There were no"}, {"start": "00:50:37", "end": "00:50:44", "text": "further imagery in my mind. And uh and"}, {"start": "00:50:41", "end": "00:50:47", "text": "it was uh I don't know, sometime after"}, {"start": "00:50:44", "end": "00:50:49", "text": "3:00 a.m. Uh which is normally when"}, {"start": "00:50:47", "end": "00:50:51", "text": "people tend to wake up like that's"}, {"start": "00:50:49", "end": "00:50:51", "text": "normally like a a rem"}, {"start": "00:50:51", "end": "00:50:52", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:50:51", "end": "00:50:54", "text": ">> period of time."}, {"start": "00:50:52", "end": "00:50:54", "text": ">> Yeah. Willy Street describes the same"}, {"start": "00:50:54", "end": "00:50:56", "text": "time."}, {"start": "00:50:54", "end": "00:50:57", "text": ">> Yeah. Um but that was like the witching"}, {"start": "00:50:56", "end": "00:50:58", "text": "hour, you know."}, {"start": "00:50:57", "end": "00:51:00", "text": ">> Sure. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:50:58", "end": "00:51:02", "text": ">> Um, so"}, {"start": "00:51:00", "end": "00:51:04", "text": "I I sat up in bed and I just couldn't"}, {"start": "00:51:02", "end": "00:51:06", "text": "believe what I just experienced. Of"}, {"start": "00:51:04", "end": "00:51:09", "text": "course, I don't know how long it was"}, {"start": "00:51:06", "end": "00:51:12", "text": "after the garage that I had woken up."}, {"start": "00:51:09", "end": "00:51:15", "text": "Uh, it could have been an hour later. I"}, {"start": "00:51:12", "end": "00:51:18", "text": "don't know. But, you know, for for those"}, {"start": "00:51:15", "end": "00:51:20", "text": "wondering, like,"}, {"start": "00:51:18", "end": "00:51:22", "text": "how would you describe knowing the"}, {"start": "00:51:20", "end": "00:51:24", "text": "difference between being in your garage"}, {"start": "00:51:22", "end": "00:51:28", "text": "or perceiving that to be your garage?"}, {"start": "00:51:24", "end": "00:51:30", "text": "like for you, what is the oh my god,"}, {"start": "00:51:28", "end": "00:51:32", "text": "this is my garage? Because obviously if"}, {"start": "00:51:30", "end": "00:51:34", "text": "you're listening to this, the first"}, {"start": "00:51:32", "end": "00:51:34", "text": "thing you're going to say is it it's"}, {"start": "00:51:34", "end": "00:51:36", "text": ">> that was a dream."}, {"start": "00:51:34", "end": "00:51:41", "text": ">> It's more visceral than a dream,"}, {"start": "00:51:36", "end": "00:51:43", "text": ">> you know? It's it's more physical. Um I"}, {"start": "00:51:41", "end": "00:51:45", "text": "I couldn't it I should have been"}, {"start": "00:51:43", "end": "00:51:48", "text": "freezing. It I mean the the garage must"}, {"start": "00:51:45", "end": "00:51:50", "text": "have been 40° Fahrenheit"}, {"start": "00:51:48", "end": "00:51:52", "text": "um at that time. Uh, it's a very"}, {"start": "00:51:50", "end": "00:51:55", "text": "insulated, wellinssulated garage, you"}, {"start": "00:51:52", "end": "00:51:57", "text": "know, so the wind doesn't make it too"}, {"start": "00:51:55", "end": "00:51:59", "text": "cold, but it cools down slowly"}, {"start": "00:51:57", "end": "00:52:02", "text": "overnight. So, it would have been would"}, {"start": "00:51:59", "end": "00:52:06", "text": "have been about 40° in there. I didn't"}, {"start": "00:52:02", "end": "00:52:08", "text": "feel anything. Um, and uh I didn't and I"}, {"start": "00:52:06", "end": "00:52:10", "text": "knew I wasn't touching the concrete cuz"}, {"start": "00:52:08", "end": "00:52:12", "text": "I I didn't feel the concrete under my"}, {"start": "00:52:10", "end": "00:52:18", "text": "feet. And my feet were not dirty"}, {"start": "00:52:12", "end": "00:52:23", "text": "afterwards. Um, I was and and from"}, {"start": "00:52:18", "end": "00:52:25", "text": "my ey line being just about equal to the"}, {"start": "00:52:23", "end": "00:52:25", "text": "roof rack,"}, {"start": "00:52:25", "end": "00:52:28", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:52:25", "end": "00:52:30", "text": ">> Uh, told me I was off the floor. I"}, {"start": "00:52:28", "end": "00:52:31", "text": "couldn't see my feet because I was I was"}, {"start": "00:52:30", "end": "00:52:33", "text": "leaning forward."}, {"start": "00:52:31", "end": "00:52:36", "text": ">> Um, you know, and my my hands were my"}, {"start": "00:52:33", "end": "00:52:38", "text": "arms are at my side and I it was I was"}, {"start": "00:52:36", "end": "00:52:39", "text": "like a frozen plastic. I made an"}, {"start": "00:52:38", "end": "00:52:42", "text": "illustration of this. You could see it"}, {"start": "00:52:39", "end": "00:52:44", "text": "on on my my book's website. Um, and and"}, {"start": "00:52:42", "end": "00:52:47", "text": "the illustration ex is exactly right."}, {"start": "00:52:44", "end": "00:52:50", "text": "And the way that the I illustrated the"}, {"start": "00:52:47", "end": "00:52:52", "text": "the light streaming in it. There was"}, {"start": "00:52:50", "end": "00:52:54", "text": "like black and white streams like you"}, {"start": "00:52:52", "end": "00:52:56", "text": "know and and the the light was moving"}, {"start": "00:52:54", "end": "00:52:59", "text": "like this side to side as as though"}, {"start": "00:52:56", "end": "00:53:01", "text": "there was like a spinning or moving or"}, {"start": "00:52:59", "end": "00:53:03", "text": "or or something was walking in front of"}, {"start": "00:53:01", "end": "00:53:05", "text": "the light source. I don't know. But it"}, {"start": "00:53:03", "end": "00:53:07", "text": "was like doing this as it was"}, {"start": "00:53:05", "end": "00:53:10", "text": "illuminating him from the side. The the"}, {"start": "00:53:07", "end": "00:53:11", "text": "light the streams were moving. Mhm."}, {"start": "00:53:10", "end": "00:53:12", "text": ">> Um, it was very strange."}, {"start": "00:53:11", "end": "00:53:14", "text": ">> You think it was a ship?"}, {"start": "00:53:12", "end": "00:53:15", "text": ">> I don't know. It could have been an orb."}, {"start": "00:53:14", "end": "00:53:18", "text": "It could have been I don't know. But"}, {"start": "00:53:15", "end": "00:53:20", "text": "something was very brightly lit. There"}, {"start": "00:53:18", "end": "00:53:21", "text": "were no signs later on the the grass."}, {"start": "00:53:20", "end": "00:53:23", "text": ">> You went to check outside."}, {"start": "00:53:21", "end": "00:53:25", "text": ">> Yeah, there was nothing. There was no"}, {"start": "00:53:23", "end": "00:53:26", "text": "burn marks or anything like that. So,"}, {"start": "00:53:25", "end": "00:53:27", "text": "whatever it was, it wouldn't have"}, {"start": "00:53:26", "end": "00:53:30", "text": "landed."}, {"start": "00:53:27", "end": "00:53:33", "text": "Um, yeah, it is interesting to have that"}, {"start": "00:53:30", "end": "00:53:35", "text": "vantage point in the garage as well"}, {"start": "00:53:33", "end": "00:53:39", "text": "where that's not you're not likely to"}, {"start": "00:53:35", "end": "00:53:40", "text": "have that point of view if it weren't"}, {"start": "00:53:39", "end": "00:53:42", "text": "for the fact that you were elevated."}, {"start": "00:53:40", "end": "00:53:44", "text": ">> I don't dream about my garage. It's"}, {"start": "00:53:42", "end": "00:53:46", "text": "boring. I mean, it's like I got paint"}, {"start": "00:53:44", "end": "00:53:50", "text": "cans in there and tools and lawn mower"}, {"start": "00:53:46", "end": "00:53:52", "text": "and snowblower and a car and um it it"}, {"start": "00:53:50", "end": "00:53:54", "text": "it's usually you dream about things that"}, {"start": "00:53:52", "end": "00:53:55", "text": "you have an emotional attachment to or"}, {"start": "00:53:54", "end": "00:53:58", "text": "something you're concerned about or"}, {"start": "00:53:55", "end": "00:53:59", "text": "thinking about. Sure, there are abstract"}, {"start": "00:53:58", "end": "00:54:01", "text": "dreams as well. I would say I wouldn't"}, {"start": "00:53:59", "end": "00:54:04", "text": "rule out, you know, dreaming about"}, {"start": "00:54:01", "end": "00:54:06", "text": "something absurd. But also knowing the"}, {"start": "00:54:04", "end": "00:54:08", "text": "difference between a dream and reality,"}, {"start": "00:54:06", "end": "00:54:10", "text": "I think, is is the uh"}, {"start": "00:54:08", "end": "00:54:12", "text": ">> is the more important part here because"}, {"start": "00:54:10", "end": "00:54:13", "text": ">> it's such a different experience for me"}, {"start": "00:54:12", "end": "00:54:17", "text": "and and I know the difference between"}, {"start": "00:54:13", "end": "00:54:21", "text": "when I'm asleep or um I liken the"}, {"start": "00:54:17", "end": "00:54:23", "text": "experience to um I was I was in a car"}, {"start": "00:54:21", "end": "00:54:26", "text": "accident during college and I told you"}, {"start": "00:54:23", "end": "00:54:28", "text": "about this at dinner last night. Um, I"}, {"start": "00:54:26", "end": "00:54:31", "text": "was in a car accident. This was in Iowa."}, {"start": "00:54:28", "end": "00:54:33", "text": "And my roommate John was driving. I was"}, {"start": "00:54:31", "end": "00:54:35", "text": "drunk in the back seat. He was sober,"}, {"start": "00:54:33", "end": "00:54:37", "text": "but he was driving and the the roads"}, {"start": "00:54:35", "end": "00:54:39", "text": "were icy and we were going like on like"}, {"start": "00:54:37", "end": "00:54:42", "text": "a a bridge like over a creek or"}, {"start": "00:54:39", "end": "00:54:44", "text": "something and and uh he slid and hit the"}, {"start": "00:54:42", "end": "00:54:46", "text": "back of a semi with the his right front"}, {"start": "00:54:44", "end": "00:54:48", "text": "corner and we're spinning around anyway"}, {"start": "00:54:46", "end": "00:54:50", "text": "until he was able to write the car and"}, {"start": "00:54:48", "end": "00:54:55", "text": "we narrowly averted death from oncoming"}, {"start": "00:54:50", "end": "00:54:57", "text": "traffic. Um, I was just taking it all in"}, {"start": "00:54:55", "end": "00:55:00", "text": "like in slow motion. I was dissociating"}, {"start": "00:54:57", "end": "00:55:03", "text": "myself. Uh, because I didn't want to"}, {"start": "00:55:00", "end": "00:55:07", "text": "believe it was real and I was numb"}, {"start": "00:55:03", "end": "00:55:10", "text": "because I was drunk. Um, that's what"}, {"start": "00:55:07", "end": "00:55:12", "text": "that's what the entrancement that they"}, {"start": "00:55:10", "end": "00:55:14", "text": "impose upon you feels like. It feels"}, {"start": "00:55:12", "end": "00:55:17", "text": "like being drunk but without that"}, {"start": "00:55:14", "end": "00:55:19", "text": "uncomfortable buzzy feeling. Um, you"}, {"start": "00:55:17", "end": "00:55:20", "text": "don't feel anything below your neck."}, {"start": "00:55:19", "end": "00:55:22", "text": ">> No fear."}, {"start": "00:55:20", "end": "00:55:24", "text": ">> No, no fear. That's the thing. They they"}, {"start": "00:55:22", "end": "00:55:27", "text": "have a way of dialing down your nervous"}, {"start": "00:55:24", "end": "00:55:28", "text": "system to like I don't know like just"}, {"start": "00:55:27", "end": "00:55:30", "text": "enough to keep you alive,"}, {"start": "00:55:28", "end": "00:55:31", "text": ">> flooding you with endorphins or some"}, {"start": "00:55:30", "end": "00:55:33", "text": "feelgood hormone."}, {"start": "00:55:31", "end": "00:55:36", "text": ">> It could be something like that. Um or"}, {"start": "00:55:33", "end": "00:55:38", "text": "it could just be um that their telepathy"}, {"start": "00:55:36", "end": "00:55:41", "text": "is so strong it it overwhelms your"}, {"start": "00:55:38", "end": "00:55:43", "text": "sensory processing ability and your"}, {"start": "00:55:41", "end": "00:55:46", "text": "brain um just can't process everything"}, {"start": "00:55:43", "end": "00:55:50", "text": "coming in. Um so the only sense that"}, {"start": "00:55:46", "end": "00:55:52", "text": "works are my eyes. Um it could be"}, {"start": "00:55:50", "end": "00:55:55", "text": "something like that. So I mean I'm I'm"}, {"start": "00:55:52", "end": "00:56:00", "text": "open to any cogent theory that that you"}, {"start": "00:55:55", "end": "00:56:02", "text": "know holds up to scrutiny. Um so yeah so"}, {"start": "00:56:00", "end": "00:56:05", "text": "that was that was the first remembered"}, {"start": "00:56:02", "end": "00:56:09", "text": "encounter after this encounter. Um this"}, {"start": "00:56:05", "end": "00:56:13", "text": "is obviously now"}, {"start": "00:56:09", "end": "00:56:15", "text": "hugely different from this sort of"}, {"start": "00:56:13", "end": "00:56:17", "text": "transient glimpse that you had at these"}, {"start": "00:56:15", "end": "00:56:17", "text": "four beings rushing out of your room."}, {"start": "00:56:17", "end": "00:56:19", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:56:17", "end": "00:56:22", "text": ">> Waking up from a dream. You know, you're"}, {"start": "00:56:19", "end": "00:56:24", "text": "kind of like,"}, {"start": "00:56:22", "end": "00:56:27", "text": "although that might have seemed real to"}, {"start": "00:56:24", "end": "00:56:30", "text": "you, what impact did this new experience"}, {"start": "00:56:27", "end": "00:56:32", "text": "have on the past one? Did it reinforce"}, {"start": "00:56:30", "end": "00:56:34", "text": "it? Were you like, \"Holy crap.\" Like,"}, {"start": "00:56:32", "end": "00:56:35", "text": ">> because it was the same kind of"}, {"start": "00:56:34", "end": "00:56:36", "text": "creature."}, {"start": "00:56:35", "end": "00:56:37", "text": ">> Um, I'm sure they're different"}, {"start": "00:56:36", "end": "00:56:38", "text": "individuals."}, {"start": "00:56:37", "end": "00:56:39", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "00:56:38", "end": "00:56:40", "text": ">> You know, I don't know how long these"}, {"start": "00:56:39", "end": "00:56:41", "text": "things live, but this was 26 years"}, {"start": "00:56:40", "end": "00:56:41", "text": "later."}, {"start": "00:56:41", "end": "00:56:43", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:56:41", "end": "00:56:45", "text": ">> Um,"}, {"start": "00:56:43", "end": "00:56:47", "text": ">> same same kind of creature."}, {"start": "00:56:45", "end": "00:56:48", "text": ">> Yeah. you know, the the you know, his"}, {"start": "00:56:47", "end": "00:56:50", "text": "head was about this big, about the size"}, {"start": "00:56:48", "end": "00:56:53", "text": "of our head, but tiny little skinny"}, {"start": "00:56:50", "end": "00:56:55", "text": "little body and and wearing black"}, {"start": "00:56:53", "end": "00:56:57", "text": "coveralls. And these black coveralls,"}, {"start": "00:56:55", "end": "00:56:59", "text": "you know, just they cover everything"}, {"start": "00:56:57", "end": "00:57:00", "text": "except their hands and their feet. I"}, {"start": "00:56:59", "end": "00:57:04", "text": "don't remember seeing the feet. So, I"}, {"start": "00:57:00", "end": "00:57:06", "text": "can't I that's a fuzzy detail, but uh"}, {"start": "00:57:04", "end": "00:57:06", "text": "you see their hands and their their"}, {"start": "00:57:06", "end": "00:57:08", "text": "feet."}, {"start": "00:57:06", "end": "00:57:10", "text": ">> How many fingers?"}, {"start": "00:57:08", "end": "00:57:12", "text": ">> I don't know. I I'm I get the impression"}, {"start": "00:57:10", "end": "00:57:14", "text": "it's five, but I don't I it it that's a"}, {"start": "00:57:12", "end": "00:57:15", "text": "fuzzy detail."}, {"start": "00:57:14", "end": "00:57:16", "text": ">> Okay. Because because when you see them,"}, {"start": "00:57:15", "end": "00:57:18", "text": "you're focused on their face."}, {"start": "00:57:16", "end": "00:57:19", "text": ">> Of course. Yeah. I mean, I'm not I"}, {"start": "00:57:18", "end": "00:57:22", "text": "wouldn't be counting fingers either. Or"}, {"start": "00:57:19", "end": "00:57:23", "text": "maybe I would now, but maybe in that"}, {"start": "00:57:22", "end": "00:57:24", "text": "moment I wouldn't."}, {"start": "00:57:23", "end": "00:57:26", "text": ">> I mean, if you had Galgadote in front of"}, {"start": "00:57:24", "end": "00:57:27", "text": "you, would you be looking at her feet"}, {"start": "00:57:26", "end": "00:57:28", "text": "and her hands to see if there's extra"}, {"start": "00:57:27", "end": "00:57:30", "text": "fingers or something?"}, {"start": "00:57:28", "end": "00:57:32", "text": ">> Yeah. Hey, I might be into I might be"}, {"start": "00:57:30", "end": "00:57:34", "text": "more into feet and hands than you know."}, {"start": "00:57:32", "end": "00:57:34", "text": ">> You'd be looking at her her amazing"}, {"start": "00:57:34", "end": "00:57:35", "text": "face."}, {"start": "00:57:34", "end": "00:57:36", "text": ">> Yeah, probably."}, {"start": "00:57:35", "end": "00:57:40", "text": ">> Right."}, {"start": "00:57:36", "end": "00:57:43", "text": ">> Um, okay. So, we have this experience"}, {"start": "00:57:40", "end": "00:57:44", "text": "now. This is 2020."}, {"start": "00:57:43", "end": "00:57:47", "text": "Yes."}, {"start": "00:57:44", "end": "00:57:49", "text": ">> And you proceed to have similar"}, {"start": "00:57:47", "end": "00:57:51", "text": "experience or not similar experience but"}, {"start": "00:57:49", "end": "00:57:52", "text": "experiences with similar beings for the"}, {"start": "00:57:51", "end": "00:57:54", "text": "next four years."}, {"start": "00:57:52", "end": "00:57:56", "text": ">> Yeah. And in fact, the very next week I"}, {"start": "00:57:54", "end": "00:57:58", "text": "met a tall gray, a young one."}, {"start": "00:57:56", "end": "00:58:01", "text": ">> And this is the one floating over you,"}, {"start": "00:57:58", "end": "00:58:03", "text": ">> right? Uh a week later, one of the"}, {"start": "00:58:01", "end": "00:58:05", "text": "superiors that the the little guy told"}, {"start": "00:58:03", "end": "00:58:08", "text": "me in the garage, one of those superiors"}, {"start": "00:58:05", "end": "00:58:11", "text": "that would know about it if they let me"}, {"start": "00:58:08", "end": "00:58:11", "text": "remember the visit, one of the superiors"}, {"start": "00:58:11", "end": "00:58:14", "text": "showed up."}, {"start": "00:58:11", "end": "00:58:16", "text": ">> Yeah. The manager. Yeah, right. But I I"}, {"start": "00:58:14", "end": "00:58:18", "text": "think he was like a junior of some kind"}, {"start": "00:58:16", "end": "00:58:20", "text": "because he was shorter than tall grays I"}, {"start": "00:58:18", "end": "00:58:23", "text": "would see later on. He was only about"}, {"start": "00:58:20", "end": "00:58:27", "text": "five and a half feet tall. Um but I woke"}, {"start": "00:58:23", "end": "00:58:29", "text": "up uh exactly one week later and there"}, {"start": "00:58:27", "end": "00:58:30", "text": "was a face right in front of mine."}, {"start": "00:58:29", "end": "00:58:32", "text": ">> The one on the cover."}, {"start": "00:58:30", "end": "00:58:34", "text": ">> Yeah, the one on the cover. And in fact,"}, {"start": "00:58:32", "end": "00:58:37", "text": "that was such a powerful moment for me."}, {"start": "00:58:34", "end": "00:58:39", "text": "Um, I had to put it I had to put that on"}, {"start": "00:58:37", "end": "00:58:40", "text": "the cover, even though it it"}, {"start": "00:58:39", "end": "00:58:43", "text": ">> the cover almost looked sexually"}, {"start": "00:58:40", "end": "00:58:44", "text": "suggestive, but it it it wasn't that"}, {"start": "00:58:43", "end": "00:58:45", "text": "kind of a situation."}, {"start": "00:58:44", "end": "00:58:48", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:58:45", "end": "00:58:50", "text": ">> He um he wanted to position himself"}, {"start": "00:58:48", "end": "00:58:52", "text": "without moving me, so his face was in"}, {"start": "00:58:50", "end": "00:58:53", "text": "front of mine. I think he wanted me to"}, {"start": "00:58:52", "end": "00:58:57", "text": "look him in the eyes."}, {"start": "00:58:53", "end": "00:59:00", "text": ">> Um I woke up and there was light between"}, {"start": "00:58:57", "end": "00:59:02", "text": "our bodies. Uh he wasn't clothed. He had"}, {"start": "00:59:00", "end": "00:59:07", "text": "no clothing. I and and I was only"}, {"start": "00:59:02", "end": "00:59:09", "text": "wearing my my uh boxer shorts. Um but um"}, {"start": "00:59:07", "end": "00:59:12", "text": "they had removed the bedding and he was"}, {"start": "00:59:09", "end": "00:59:14", "text": "he was on top of me right there just"}, {"start": "00:59:12", "end": "00:59:16", "text": "just the the two big eyes. I was"}, {"start": "00:59:14", "end": "00:59:18", "text": "intimidated so I couldn't look him"}, {"start": "00:59:16", "end": "00:59:22", "text": "directly in the eyes. So I stared at his"}, {"start": "00:59:18", "end": "00:59:24", "text": "shoulder at his right shoulder and um"}, {"start": "00:59:22", "end": "00:59:26", "text": "and I was just like, \"Okay, I'm just"}, {"start": "00:59:24", "end": "00:59:28", "text": "going to focus on his shoulder.\" So, I"}, {"start": "00:59:26", "end": "00:59:34", "text": "was looking at the skin tone, the"}, {"start": "00:59:28", "end": "00:59:36", "text": "texture, um the color, and um it noticed"}, {"start": "00:59:34", "end": "00:59:38", "text": "that I was interested cuz I had the"}, {"start": "00:59:36", "end": "00:59:41", "text": "thought, I want to I want to touch his"}, {"start": "00:59:38", "end": "00:59:43", "text": "shoulder, and it knew that suddenly I"}, {"start": "00:59:41", "end": "00:59:44", "text": "was able to move my left arm. I couldn't"}, {"start": "00:59:43", "end": "00:59:48", "text": "move the rest of my body, but I was able"}, {"start": "00:59:44", "end": "00:59:50", "text": "to move my left arm. So, I positioned it"}, {"start": "00:59:48", "end": "00:59:55", "text": "between the tight space between our"}, {"start": "00:59:50", "end": "00:59:57", "text": "chests and I put my hand on on his u"}, {"start": "00:59:55", "end": "01:00:00", "text": "right shoulder and I was kind of like"}, {"start": "00:59:57", "end": "01:00:01", "text": "massaging like I guess like the shoulder"}, {"start": "01:00:00", "end": "01:00:03", "text": "blade area. I don't know if he had a"}, {"start": "01:00:01", "end": "01:00:06", "text": "shoulder blade but I'm just you know"}, {"start": "01:00:03", "end": "01:00:08", "text": "just that area and it was very tight"}, {"start": "01:00:06", "end": "01:00:10", "text": "insinuate muscular. There was no"}, {"start": "01:00:08", "end": "01:00:13", "text": "subcutaneous fat on this thing at all."}, {"start": "01:00:10", "end": "01:00:16", "text": "and it was like uh kind of like leather"}, {"start": "01:00:13", "end": "01:00:18", "text": "but slightly bumpier but also smooth. It"}, {"start": "01:00:16", "end": "01:00:21", "text": "had it had more of a texture than fine"}, {"start": "01:00:18", "end": "01:00:25", "text": "leather. Um and then he had a collar"}, {"start": "01:00:21", "end": "01:00:30", "text": "bone just like we do and I had my thumb"}, {"start": "01:00:25", "end": "01:00:33", "text": "on it and after a while I um I calmed"}, {"start": "01:00:30", "end": "01:00:35", "text": "down enough that I I I put my hand down"}, {"start": "01:00:33", "end": "01:00:37", "text": "and I felt comfortable enough to look"}, {"start": "01:00:35", "end": "01:00:39", "text": "him in the eye. And as soon as I looked"}, {"start": "01:00:37", "end": "01:00:43", "text": "him in the eye, he leaned forward and he"}, {"start": "01:00:39", "end": "01:00:46", "text": "touched his forehead to mine. And I was"}, {"start": "01:00:43", "end": "01:00:48", "text": "instantly unconscious when he touched"}, {"start": "01:00:46", "end": "01:00:49", "text": "his forehead to mine. Um, just kind of"}, {"start": "01:00:48", "end": "01:00:52", "text": "like with the orbs when they touched my"}, {"start": "01:00:49", "end": "01:00:55", "text": "forehead. I'm unconscious. And and"}, {"start": "01:00:52", "end": "01:00:57", "text": "suddenly I was in a dream state and I"}, {"start": "01:00:55", "end": "01:00:59", "text": "was dreaming this environment of a"}, {"start": "01:00:57", "end": "01:01:02", "text": "Bavarian village. We were standing on a"}, {"start": "01:00:59", "end": "01:01:03", "text": "cobblestone street. there were uh"}, {"start": "01:01:02", "end": "01:01:06", "text": "buildings nearby with halftimbered"}, {"start": "01:01:03", "end": "01:01:08", "text": "architecture just like you'd see in"}, {"start": "01:01:06", "end": "01:01:10", "text": "downtown Nuremberg or some place like"}, {"start": "01:01:08", "end": "01:01:13", "text": "that. Um"}, {"start": "01:01:10", "end": "01:01:17", "text": "um and so had you ever been to Germany?"}, {"start": "01:01:13", "end": "01:01:19", "text": ">> Never. But it was gorgeous. Um and we"}, {"start": "01:01:17", "end": "01:01:22", "text": "were standing beside a a sloped hill"}, {"start": "01:01:19", "end": "01:01:24", "text": "that had a stone uh stairway going up it"}, {"start": "01:01:22", "end": "01:01:28", "text": "and and we were on a a slant and there"}, {"start": "01:01:24", "end": "01:01:28", "text": "were cars parked."}, {"start": "01:01:28", "end": "01:01:33", "text": "I don't know why he would put cars in"}, {"start": "01:01:30", "end": "01:01:36", "text": "that environment. I I don't know. But it"}, {"start": "01:01:33", "end": "01:01:37", "text": "was it was it was just it just kind of a"}, {"start": "01:01:36", "end": "01:01:42", "text": "strange place to be. But we were kind of"}, {"start": "01:01:37", "end": "01:01:44", "text": "like on a slanted parking area and um"}, {"start": "01:01:42", "end": "01:01:45", "text": "and"}, {"start": "01:01:44", "end": "01:01:48", "text": "he was there. The the tall gray was"}, {"start": "01:01:45", "end": "01:01:50", "text": "there and he was about 5 1/2 ft tall. Um"}, {"start": "01:01:48", "end": "01:01:53", "text": "much shorter than later tall grays I"}, {"start": "01:01:50", "end": "01:01:54", "text": "would see. Uh, and then those little"}, {"start": "01:01:53", "end": "01:01:57", "text": "skinny bobs, there was three of them"}, {"start": "01:01:54", "end": "01:02:01", "text": "that were next to the bed to the right"}, {"start": "01:01:57", "end": "01:02:03", "text": "of me. Uh, they they were there also,"}, {"start": "01:02:01", "end": "01:02:06", "text": "but they appeared as three little girls"}, {"start": "01:02:03", "end": "01:02:08", "text": "wearing little blue dresses and"}, {"start": "01:02:06", "end": "01:02:10", "text": "blue-eyed and blondhaired."}, {"start": "01:02:08", "end": "01:02:14", "text": "And uh"}, {"start": "01:02:10", "end": "01:02:17", "text": "but I I knew"}, {"start": "01:02:14", "end": "01:02:19", "text": "uh later on that it was them. But at the"}, {"start": "01:02:17", "end": "01:02:20", "text": "time with the entrancement that they had"}, {"start": "01:02:19", "end": "01:02:21", "text": "me in, I thought they were"}, {"start": "01:02:20", "end": "01:02:23", "text": ">> accepting. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:02:21", "end": "01:02:23", "text": ">> I'm accepting the illusion right at that"}, {"start": "01:02:23", "end": "01:02:25", "text": "time."}, {"start": "01:02:23", "end": "01:02:28", "text": ">> Later on the illusions wouldn't work on"}, {"start": "01:02:25", "end": "01:02:31", "text": "me anymore. But at this time it did."}, {"start": "01:02:28", "end": "01:02:33", "text": ">> And um and I was confused why we were"}, {"start": "01:02:31", "end": "01:02:35", "text": "standing in this area. I was like I was"}, {"start": "01:02:33", "end": "01:02:38", "text": "just in my bedroom. This doesn't make"}, {"start": "01:02:35", "end": "01:02:40", "text": "sense. But this thing's standing in"}, {"start": "01:02:38", "end": "01:02:43", "text": "front of me and um I was able to ask it"}, {"start": "01:02:40", "end": "01:02:45", "text": "a couple questions and I asked him,"}, {"start": "01:02:43", "end": "01:02:47", "text": "\"What's your name?\" And he said,"}, {"start": "01:02:45", "end": "01:02:49", "text": "\"Sizzlick.\""}, {"start": "01:02:47", "end": "01:02:51", "text": "And so I bent down to the little girls."}, {"start": "01:02:49", "end": "01:02:52", "text": "I I had telepathy with him, but I didn't"}, {"start": "01:02:51", "end": "01:02:53", "text": "know that the little girls could hear"}, {"start": "01:02:52", "end": "01:02:56", "text": "him, too. I didn't know they were"}, {"start": "01:02:53", "end": "01:02:58", "text": "telepathic. So I spoke to them. Again,"}, {"start": "01:02:56", "end": "01:03:00", "text": "this is all a virtual imposed dream"}, {"start": "01:02:58", "end": "01:03:01", "text": "environment. This this wasn't really"}, {"start": "01:03:00", "end": "01:03:03", "text": "happening, but I believe the"}, {"start": "01:03:01", "end": "01:03:06", "text": "communication was real, but the"}, {"start": "01:03:03", "end": "01:03:08", "text": "environment was virtual."}, {"start": "01:03:06", "end": "01:03:10", "text": "So that said, so I'd bent down and I'd"}, {"start": "01:03:08", "end": "01:03:14", "text": "talk to the little girl verbally,"}, {"start": "01:03:10", "end": "01:03:17", "text": "orally, and I' I'd say, uh, he says his"}, {"start": "01:03:14", "end": "01:03:19", "text": "name is Sizzle or Silisc. I I wasn't"}, {"start": "01:03:17", "end": "01:03:21", "text": "sure I got the syllables right. Later"}, {"start": "01:03:19", "end": "01:03:25", "text": "on, I'd replay it on my mind. It was,"}, {"start": "01:03:21", "end": "01:03:28", "text": "yeah, it was it was Sizzle. Um, and then"}, {"start": "01:03:25", "end": "01:03:32", "text": "I I asked him other questions like, uh,"}, {"start": "01:03:28", "end": "01:03:35", "text": "are um, are you from Zeta Reticuli?"}, {"start": "01:03:32", "end": "01:03:37", "text": "That's a very specific question, but uh"}, {"start": "01:03:35", "end": "01:03:40", "text": "it's because I read about Betty and"}, {"start": "01:03:37", "end": "01:03:43", "text": "Barney Hill in the '90s and uh Marjorie"}, {"start": "01:03:40", "end": "01:03:46", "text": "Fish, this uh amateur astronomer, uh"}, {"start": "01:03:43", "end": "01:03:50", "text": "took Betty Hill's star map that she saw"}, {"start": "01:03:46", "end": "01:03:52", "text": "when when during her abduction and uh"}, {"start": "01:03:50", "end": "01:03:55", "text": "was able to correlate it to Zeta"}, {"start": "01:03:52", "end": "01:03:58", "text": "Reticuli. And then I remember Bob Lazar"}, {"start": "01:03:55", "end": "01:04:00", "text": "talking about Zeta Reticuli in the '9s."}, {"start": "01:03:58", "end": "01:04:02", "text": "So that was in my head."}, {"start": "01:04:00", "end": "01:04:05", "text": ">> Yeah. Also, I would say before Bob,"}, {"start": "01:04:02", "end": "01:04:08", "text": "there was a Bill Herman as well who was"}, {"start": "01:04:05", "end": "01:04:12", "text": "told by the beings that they were from"}, {"start": "01:04:08", "end": "01:04:15", "text": "Zeta Reticulum as well. So, I asked and"}, {"start": "01:04:12", "end": "01:04:16", "text": "he said yes. And I said, \"Are you from"}, {"start": "01:04:15", "end": "01:04:19", "text": "the fourth planet?\" And he said, \"Yes.\""}, {"start": "01:04:16", "end": "01:04:21", "text": "I'm like, \"Okay.\" And again, I asked him"}, {"start": "01:04:19", "end": "01:04:22", "text": "something based on something I read. I"}, {"start": "01:04:21", "end": "01:04:24", "text": "read about the project Serpo, those"}, {"start": "01:04:22", "end": "01:04:25", "text": "papers. I read those in the '90s also."}, {"start": "01:04:24", "end": "01:04:26", "text": ">> Yeah. The Reagan"}, {"start": "01:04:25", "end": "01:04:29", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:04:26", "end": "01:04:31", "text": ">> Uh the the supposed Reagan briefing."}, {"start": "01:04:29", "end": "01:04:35", "text": ">> Yeah. that probably wasn't even real,"}, {"start": "01:04:31", "end": "01:04:37", "text": "but uh but supposedly our military"}, {"start": "01:04:35", "end": "01:04:39", "text": "called their planet Serpo. So I asked,"}, {"start": "01:04:37", "end": "01:04:42", "text": "\"Do you call your planet Serpo?\" And he"}, {"start": "01:04:39", "end": "01:04:43", "text": "says, \"No, we don't call it that.\" So I"}, {"start": "01:04:42", "end": "01:04:46", "text": "was waiting, waiting, waiting. He didn't"}, {"start": "01:04:43", "end": "01:04:48", "text": "tell me what it didn't tell me."}, {"start": "01:04:46", "end": "01:04:51", "text": ">> Um and it's just irritating me because"}, {"start": "01:04:48", "end": "01:04:53", "text": "nobody knows. Nobody knows what they"}, {"start": "01:04:51", "end": "01:04:56", "text": "call their home world."}, {"start": "01:04:53", "end": "01:04:58", "text": "There's a book by I mean there's a few"}, {"start": "01:04:56", "end": "01:05:01", "text": "there's there's you know the the Arids"}, {"start": "01:04:58", "end": "01:05:04", "text": "obviously is like another Aerudania"}, {"start": "01:05:01", "end": "01:05:04", "text": "Arerodia or whatever is the other planet"}, {"start": "01:05:04", "end": "01:05:05", "text": "that's"}, {"start": "01:05:04", "end": "01:05:06", "text": ">> star system"}, {"start": "01:05:05", "end": "01:05:08", "text": ">> in the vicinity."}, {"start": "01:05:06", "end": "01:05:11", "text": ">> Um but then there's also this story of"}, {"start": "01:05:08", "end": "01:05:13", "text": "this guy named Amorei Rivera I spoke to"}, {"start": "01:05:11", "end": "01:05:16", "text": "you briefly about yesterday."}, {"start": "01:05:13", "end": "01:05:18", "text": ">> He's this just this guy in the 80s in"}, {"start": "01:05:16", "end": "01:05:20", "text": "Puerto Rico who has this abduction"}, {"start": "01:05:18", "end": "01:05:21", "text": "experience with along with like 14 other"}, {"start": "01:05:20", "end": "01:05:24", "text": "people"}, {"start": "01:05:21", "end": "01:05:27", "text": ">> Mhm. being taken to a planet. Um, and"}, {"start": "01:05:24", "end": "01:05:31", "text": "the planet that they're taken to is"}, {"start": "01:05:27", "end": "01:05:32", "text": "pronounced ka k aa essentially."}, {"start": "01:05:31", "end": "01:05:34", "text": ">> Almost sounds uh Egyptian."}, {"start": "01:05:32", "end": "01:05:37", "text": ">> It almost sounds Egyptian. Yeah. And"}, {"start": "01:05:34", "end": "01:05:39", "text": "that was a but it was the letter K in"}, {"start": "01:05:37", "end": "01:05:42", "text": "Spanish which I or in yeah in whatever"}, {"start": "01:05:39", "end": "01:05:44", "text": "language they were using. Um but that"}, {"start": "01:05:42", "end": "01:05:47", "text": "was the only other you know but then"}, {"start": "01:05:44", "end": "01:05:49", "text": "there's yeah I mean there's so many"}, {"start": "01:05:47", "end": "01:05:52", "text": "stories if you look at Wendell Stevens"}, {"start": "01:05:49", "end": "01:05:57", "text": "and he covered just a vast amount of um"}, {"start": "01:05:52", "end": "01:06:01", "text": "contact cases from you know UMO to Minga"}, {"start": "01:05:57", "end": "01:06:03", "text": "it uh Andromeda Mirasol all these"}, {"start": "01:06:01", "end": "01:06:05", "text": "different like places but also these"}, {"start": "01:06:03", "end": "01:06:08", "text": "different star systems and planets that"}, {"start": "01:06:05", "end": "01:06:10", "text": "kept coming up but yeah alasa none none"}, {"start": "01:06:08", "end": "01:06:11", "text": "of those"}, {"start": "01:06:10", "end": "01:06:13", "text": ">> were were offered to Yeah,"}, {"start": "01:06:11", "end": "01:06:14", "text": ">> you're you're far better studied than I"}, {"start": "01:06:13", "end": "01:06:14", "text": "am."}, {"start": "01:06:14", "end": "01:06:18", "text": ">> Um"}, {"start": "01:06:14", "end": "01:06:21", "text": ">> Um but uh I I'm I'm I'm still new to"}, {"start": "01:06:18", "end": "01:06:23", "text": "researching all this stuff. Uh but so so"}, {"start": "01:06:21", "end": "01:06:24", "text": "I know he's from Zeta Reticuli."}, {"start": "01:06:23", "end": "01:06:25", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:06:24", "end": "01:06:27", "text": ">> But I couldn't think of any good"}, {"start": "01:06:25", "end": "01:06:29", "text": "questions like why are you bothering me?"}, {"start": "01:06:27", "end": "01:06:32", "text": ">> Like you know and and at the time I"}, {"start": "01:06:29", "end": "01:06:35", "text": "hadn't talked to my mom yet. I hadn't"}, {"start": "01:06:32", "end": "01:06:36", "text": "told anybody about the previous week and"}, {"start": "01:06:35", "end": "01:06:40", "text": "and uh"}, {"start": "01:06:36", "end": "01:06:41", "text": ">> if you could go back to that moment,"}, {"start": "01:06:40", "end": "01:06:42", "text": "what question would you ask?"}, {"start": "01:06:41", "end": "01:06:44", "text": ">> If I could ask if I"}, {"start": "01:06:42", "end": "01:06:46", "text": ">> you're in that moment right now and you"}, {"start": "01:06:44", "end": "01:06:48", "text": ">> they entrance you because they they"}, {"start": "01:06:46", "end": "01:06:49", "text": "don't trust that you won't pick them up"}, {"start": "01:06:48", "end": "01:06:51", "text": "and throw them against the wall."}, {"start": "01:06:49", "end": "01:06:52", "text": ">> All right, let's take for granted that"}, {"start": "01:06:51", "end": "01:06:54", "text": "you won't do that."}, {"start": "01:06:52", "end": "01:06:55", "text": ">> All right. and and you're given an"}, {"start": "01:06:54", "end": "01:06:59", "text": "opportunity to"}, {"start": "01:06:55", "end": "01:07:00", "text": ">> I want I want to know what what why why"}, {"start": "01:06:59", "end": "01:07:02", "text": "they're bothering my family in"}, {"start": "01:07:00", "end": "01:07:04", "text": "particular like what do they find useful"}, {"start": "01:07:02", "end": "01:07:05", "text": "about the genes from my family"}, {"start": "01:07:04", "end": "01:07:09", "text": ">> the sort of why me"}, {"start": "01:07:05", "end": "01:07:11", "text": ">> yeah exactly uh and um I suspected that"}, {"start": "01:07:09", "end": "01:07:14", "text": "they had bothered my daughter uh during"}, {"start": "01:07:11", "end": "01:07:16", "text": "one of my encounters I woke up uh"}, {"start": "01:07:14", "end": "01:07:18", "text": "afterward and she was giggling and"}, {"start": "01:07:16", "end": "01:07:20", "text": "squealing with delight in her bedroom"}, {"start": "01:07:18", "end": "01:07:25", "text": "and I ran in there cuz I'm like they"}, {"start": "01:07:20", "end": "01:07:26", "text": "better not be bothering her And uh"}, {"start": "01:07:25", "end": "01:07:28", "text": "and I'm like, well, maybe she just woke"}, {"start": "01:07:26", "end": "01:07:30", "text": "up because her pull-up needed to be"}, {"start": "01:07:28", "end": "01:07:34", "text": "changed. I mean, she's an adult wearing"}, {"start": "01:07:30", "end": "01:07:37", "text": "diapers because she's severe autism. Um"}, {"start": "01:07:34", "end": "01:07:40", "text": "very low functioning. Uh so I checked"}, {"start": "01:07:37", "end": "01:07:43", "text": "her and she's her pull-up was bone dry"}, {"start": "01:07:40", "end": "01:07:45", "text": "and and she was able to go right back to"}, {"start": "01:07:43", "end": "01:07:49", "text": "sleep. There was no reason for her to"}, {"start": "01:07:45", "end": "01:07:50", "text": "wake up. Um maybe they'd been"}, {"start": "01:07:49", "end": "01:07:54", "text": "entertaining her while they were messing"}, {"start": "01:07:50", "end": "01:07:56", "text": "with me. I I don't know. Um but I just"}, {"start": "01:07:54", "end": "01:07:58", "text": "hope that they leave her alone because"}, {"start": "01:07:56", "end": "01:07:58", "text": "that would just anger me to no end."}, {"start": "01:07:58", "end": "01:08:00", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:07:58", "end": "01:08:02", "text": ">> Um you leave my little girl alone."}, {"start": "01:08:00", "end": "01:08:04", "text": ">> Yeah. Did Does it seem cuz um she's"}, {"start": "01:08:02", "end": "01:08:06", "text": "non-verbal. Um"}, {"start": "01:08:04", "end": "01:08:08", "text": ">> she couldn't tell me if they did."}, {"start": "01:08:06", "end": "01:08:11", "text": ">> No. Yeah. Does it do you ever get the"}, {"start": "01:08:08", "end": "01:08:13", "text": "impression that um and you know, not to"}, {"start": "01:08:11", "end": "01:08:15", "text": "not to be insensitive, but there is this"}, {"start": "01:08:13", "end": "01:08:16", "text": "you know, telepathy tapes obviously,"}, {"start": "01:08:15", "end": "01:08:18", "text": "which I'm sure you're aware of by now."}, {"start": "01:08:16", "end": "01:08:21", "text": ">> It's been mentioned to me and spellers"}, {"start": "01:08:18", "end": "01:08:23", "text": "and things like that. Have Have you ever"}, {"start": "01:08:21", "end": "01:08:24", "text": ">> No, that's kind of that's kind of"}, {"start": "01:08:23", "end": "01:08:24", "text": ">> newish."}, {"start": "01:08:24", "end": "01:08:27", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:08:24", "end": "01:08:29", "text": ">> You know, because my my intervention and"}, {"start": "01:08:27", "end": "01:08:33", "text": "my advocacy within the autism community"}, {"start": "01:08:29", "end": "01:08:35", "text": "goes back more than 20 years. And I uh"}, {"start": "01:08:33", "end": "01:08:38", "text": "after a while when I became a single"}, {"start": "01:08:35", "end": "01:08:41", "text": "parent, I I stopped following up every"}, {"start": "01:08:38", "end": "01:08:44", "text": "promising intervention because we tried"}, {"start": "01:08:41", "end": "01:08:46", "text": "so many and we spent so much money. I"}, {"start": "01:08:44", "end": "01:08:49", "text": "spent $60,000 trying to recover my"}, {"start": "01:08:46", "end": "01:08:52", "text": "daughter's cognitive abilities to get"}, {"start": "01:08:49", "end": "01:08:55", "text": "her closer to her age range so she could"}, {"start": "01:08:52", "end": "01:08:59", "text": "have some measure of independence. And"}, {"start": "01:08:55", "end": "01:09:00", "text": "um I failed. Um so she's now today she's"}, {"start": "01:08:59", "end": "01:09:03", "text": "living in a group home. I'm an empty"}, {"start": "01:09:00", "end": "01:09:05", "text": "neester because I'm too tired to change"}, {"start": "01:09:03", "end": "01:09:11", "text": "diapers every day. I I did it for 16"}, {"start": "01:09:05", "end": "01:09:12", "text": "years by myself. Um so uh but this this"}, {"start": "01:09:11", "end": "01:09:15", "text": "started happening before she moved out"}, {"start": "01:09:12", "end": "01:09:17", "text": "of the house. And I was uh I was"}, {"start": "01:09:15", "end": "01:09:19", "text": "concerned maybe that they were I don't"}, {"start": "01:09:17", "end": "01:09:21", "text": "want them going to her for OA or"}, {"start": "01:09:19", "end": "01:09:24", "text": "anything like that. I want them to leave"}, {"start": "01:09:21", "end": "01:09:26", "text": "her alone. I'll give them whatever they"}, {"start": "01:09:24", "end": "01:09:28", "text": "need. I'll cooperate with them. You"}, {"start": "01:09:26", "end": "01:09:29", "text": "leave her the f alone."}, {"start": "01:09:28", "end": "01:09:32", "text": ">> Do you think they're aware of you doing"}, {"start": "01:09:29", "end": "01:09:35", "text": "interviews right now?"}, {"start": "01:09:32", "end": "01:09:38", "text": ">> I I have something to say about that. Um"}, {"start": "01:09:35", "end": "01:09:40", "text": "I posted a couple of signs over the"}, {"start": "01:09:38", "end": "01:09:41", "text": "4-year period that they were visiting"}, {"start": "01:09:40", "end": "01:09:42", "text": "me. different"}, {"start": "01:09:41", "end": "01:09:43", "text": ">> different"}, {"start": "01:09:42", "end": "01:09:43", "text": ">> advertisements"}, {"start": "01:09:43", "end": "01:09:44", "text": ">> different messages"}, {"start": "01:09:43", "end": "01:09:48", "text": ">> different messages"}, {"start": "01:09:44", "end": "01:09:51", "text": ">> requests I said you know um I remember"}, {"start": "01:09:48", "end": "01:09:54", "text": "so much from my encounters with you guys"}, {"start": "01:09:51", "end": "01:09:56", "text": "why don't you let me be fully awake for"}, {"start": "01:09:54", "end": "01:10:00", "text": "the whole thing I'll cooperate with you"}, {"start": "01:09:56", "end": "01:10:02", "text": "I just wanted to remember everything and"}, {"start": "01:10:00", "end": "01:10:05", "text": "one night I had what felt more like a"}, {"start": "01:10:02", "end": "01:10:08", "text": "dream than a waking encounter"}, {"start": "01:10:05", "end": "01:10:09", "text": "uh where I was asked the question what"}, {"start": "01:10:08", "end": "01:10:13", "text": "would you do if we allowed you to be"}, {"start": "01:10:09", "end": "01:10:17", "text": "fully awake awake and I was in a very"}, {"start": "01:10:13", "end": "01:10:19", "text": "honest mood and I said, \"Well, oh, I'"}, {"start": "01:10:17", "end": "01:10:21", "text": "I'd of course I' I'd talk to newspapers"}, {"start": "01:10:19", "end": "01:10:23", "text": "and magazines and I would, you know, I"}, {"start": "01:10:21", "end": "01:10:26", "text": "would talk about this. You know, you"}, {"start": "01:10:23", "end": "01:10:28", "text": "have to talk about this and yeah,"}, {"start": "01:10:26", "end": "01:10:29", "text": "denied.\""}, {"start": "01:10:28", "end": "01:10:31", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:10:29", "end": "01:10:32", "text": ">> So, but I I had some waking encounters"}, {"start": "01:10:31", "end": "01:10:34", "text": "where they I think they were"}, {"start": "01:10:32", "end": "01:10:36", "text": "experimenting with me. They were letting"}, {"start": "01:10:34", "end": "01:10:39", "text": "me be awake for short periods of time,"}, {"start": "01:10:36", "end": "01:10:43", "text": "anywhere from 12 seconds to 2 minutes"}, {"start": "01:10:39", "end": "01:10:45", "text": "depending on on what was going on. Uh if"}, {"start": "01:10:43", "end": "01:10:47", "text": "they required my physical cooperation or"}, {"start": "01:10:45", "end": "01:10:48", "text": "if they wanted to show me something, it"}, {"start": "01:10:47", "end": "01:10:51", "text": "was a longer period of time where I was"}, {"start": "01:10:48", "end": "01:10:55", "text": "allowed to be standing on my feet. Um,"}, {"start": "01:10:51", "end": "01:10:58", "text": "but they they kept me it very very"}, {"start": "01:10:55", "end": "01:11:01", "text": "sedated, like cognitively sedated where"}, {"start": "01:10:58", "end": "01:11:03", "text": "you're just very passive and agreeable"}, {"start": "01:11:01", "end": "01:11:05", "text": "and you you just do what you're told."}, {"start": "01:11:03", "end": "01:11:08", "text": ">> Do you when you wake up from these"}, {"start": "01:11:05", "end": "01:11:10", "text": "experiences, do you feel like an insane"}, {"start": "01:11:08", "end": "01:11:12", "text": "amount of fatigue?"}, {"start": "01:11:10", "end": "01:11:12", "text": ">> Sometimes like you hadn't slept at all."}, {"start": "01:11:12", "end": "01:11:14", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:11:12", "end": "01:11:16", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. I'd wake up, which was very"}, {"start": "01:11:14", "end": "01:11:19", "text": "inconvenient because, you know, I have"}, {"start": "01:11:16", "end": "01:11:21", "text": "to go to work and um even though I go to"}, {"start": "01:11:19", "end": "01:11:23", "text": "bed at 8:30, 9:00 at night, you know, I"}, {"start": "01:11:21", "end": "01:11:25", "text": "tried to get to bed as early as I can"}, {"start": "01:11:23", "end": "01:11:27", "text": "while my daughter was still at home"}, {"start": "01:11:25", "end": "01:11:29", "text": "because I never know when she's going to"}, {"start": "01:11:27", "end": "01:11:32", "text": "wake me up in the middle of the night to"}, {"start": "01:11:29", "end": "01:11:34", "text": "change a pull-up. Um, you know, it was"}, {"start": "01:11:32", "end": "01:11:36", "text": "it was a rough period of time when as a"}, {"start": "01:11:34", "end": "01:11:38", "text": "as a single father to a child like her."}, {"start": "01:11:36", "end": "01:11:40", "text": "Um, I love her dearly. I mean, she's"}, {"start": "01:11:38", "end": "01:11:42", "text": "everything to me, but it it was"}, {"start": "01:11:40", "end": "01:11:46", "text": "stressful. Yeah. Um, so I'd go to bed"}, {"start": "01:11:42", "end": "01:11:48", "text": "early every night and uh, but after an"}, {"start": "01:11:46", "end": "01:11:50", "text": "encounter, I'd wake up the next day and"}, {"start": "01:11:48", "end": "01:11:54", "text": "I felt like I hadn't slept at all and"}, {"start": "01:11:50", "end": "01:11:55", "text": "it's just exhausting. Um, yeah, it's"}, {"start": "01:11:54", "end": "01:11:57", "text": "like that."}, {"start": "01:11:55", "end": "01:12:00", "text": ">> So, let's go to some of the other"}, {"start": "01:11:57", "end": "01:12:02", "text": "encounters that you had after this."}, {"start": "01:12:00", "end": "01:12:05", "text": "Yeah, there's uh some interesting ones"}, {"start": "01:12:02", "end": "01:12:08", "text": "because you know"}, {"start": "01:12:05", "end": "01:12:11", "text": "you were taken to what seems not only"}, {"start": "01:12:08", "end": "01:12:13", "text": "like aboard a craft but also maybe to"}, {"start": "01:12:11", "end": "01:12:15", "text": "some type of facility several times."}, {"start": "01:12:13", "end": "01:12:17", "text": ">> Yeah. Whether that's underground or"}, {"start": "01:12:15", "end": "01:12:19", "text": "whether that's in a giant mother ship"}, {"start": "01:12:17", "end": "01:12:22", "text": "like you wouldn't know. But you were"}, {"start": "01:12:19", "end": "01:12:24", "text": "also they also alluded to the fact that"}, {"start": "01:12:22", "end": "01:12:24", "text": "that they have facilities underground."}, {"start": "01:12:24", "end": "01:12:27", "text": "That's right."}, {"start": "01:12:24", "end": "01:12:29", "text": ">> Nearby in Illinois. So, let's talk about"}, {"start": "01:12:27", "end": "01:12:32", "text": "before we get to the underground"}, {"start": "01:12:29", "end": "01:12:34", "text": "facilities, let's talk about some of the"}, {"start": "01:12:32", "end": "01:12:39", "text": "other encounters that you had leading up"}, {"start": "01:12:34", "end": "01:12:41", "text": "to that. Sure. Um,"}, {"start": "01:12:39", "end": "01:12:44", "text": "there were just a bunch of little"}, {"start": "01:12:41", "end": "01:12:46", "text": "encounters where like I'd wake up and I"}, {"start": "01:12:44", "end": "01:12:47", "text": "I there were four. Uh,"}, {"start": "01:12:46", "end": "01:12:49", "text": ">> always four."}, {"start": "01:12:47", "end": "01:12:51", "text": ">> Yeah. They always come to me at fours"}, {"start": "01:12:49", "end": "01:12:52", "text": "whether whether it's a mixture of the"}, {"start": "01:12:51", "end": "01:12:56", "text": "tall ones and the short ones or all"}, {"start": "01:12:52", "end": "01:13:00", "text": "short ones. But uh I woke up uh and it"}, {"start": "01:12:56", "end": "01:13:03", "text": "was very dark in the room and um I saw"}, {"start": "01:13:00", "end": "01:13:06", "text": "two of them"}, {"start": "01:13:03", "end": "01:13:10", "text": "levitating above my bed and trading"}, {"start": "01:13:06", "end": "01:13:13", "text": "positions and landing on either side of"}, {"start": "01:13:10", "end": "01:13:15", "text": "the bed. So there was excuse me so there"}, {"start": "01:13:13", "end": "01:13:18", "text": "was four of them two on each side of the"}, {"start": "01:13:15", "end": "01:13:20", "text": "bed and two of them traded places by"}, {"start": "01:13:18", "end": "01:13:21", "text": "levitating over top of me. And while"}, {"start": "01:13:20", "end": "01:13:24", "text": "they were levitating"}, {"start": "01:13:21", "end": "01:13:28", "text": ">> take take a sip."}, {"start": "01:13:24", "end": "01:13:28", "text": "Sorry, my throat gets dry."}, {"start": "01:13:29", "end": "01:13:31", "text": ">> You're saying it now and I just got"}, {"start": "01:13:30", "end": "01:13:33", "text": "something in my throat."}, {"start": "01:13:31", "end": "01:13:36", "text": ">> Yeah. So, while they were levitating,"}, {"start": "01:13:33", "end": "01:13:41", "text": "there was like a a extremely"}, {"start": "01:13:36", "end": "01:13:44", "text": "faint green aurora around their bodies"}, {"start": "01:13:41", "end": "01:13:46", "text": "and I could make out some details on"}, {"start": "01:13:44", "end": "01:13:49", "text": "their faces and they were they had a"}, {"start": "01:13:46", "end": "01:13:51", "text": "like a grin. There was um you showed me"}, {"start": "01:13:49", "end": "01:13:54", "text": "a few pictures at dinner last night just"}, {"start": "01:13:51", "end": "01:13:56", "text": "before we get into this story that you"}, {"start": "01:13:54", "end": "01:13:59", "text": "are pretty high conviction on in terms"}, {"start": "01:13:56", "end": "01:14:02", "text": "of their appearance. One photo was from"}, {"start": "01:13:59", "end": "01:14:05", "text": "a video that was deemed fake of this"}, {"start": "01:14:02", "end": "01:14:09", "text": "giant sort of gray terrifying looking"}, {"start": "01:14:05", "end": "01:14:12", "text": "like absolutely haunting. It's so close"}, {"start": "01:14:09", "end": "01:14:16", "text": "to accurate. I mean it's so close. it it"}, {"start": "01:14:12", "end": "01:14:19", "text": "at first I took it for real video um but"}, {"start": "01:14:16", "end": "01:14:21", "text": "upon a little doing a little research I"}, {"start": "01:14:19", "end": "01:14:22", "text": "asked Grock I showed the video and it's"}, {"start": "01:14:21", "end": "01:14:24", "text": "like nah that's fake and here's the"}, {"start": "01:14:22", "end": "01:14:26", "text": "artist name and this is the software he"}, {"start": "01:14:24", "end": "01:14:30", "text": "used and so I was satisfied with that"}, {"start": "01:14:26", "end": "01:14:33", "text": "explanation but it was close whoever"}, {"start": "01:14:30", "end": "01:14:36", "text": "made this might have had access to"}, {"start": "01:14:33", "end": "01:14:40", "text": "photos or had seen one I don't know but"}, {"start": "01:14:36", "end": "01:14:42", "text": "it is so close the the the the sagittal"}, {"start": "01:14:40", "end": "01:14:44", "text": "ridge on on the on on their neck, you"}, {"start": "01:14:42", "end": "01:14:45", "text": "know, going down their back a little"}, {"start": "01:14:44", "end": "01:14:47", "text": "bit. That that seemed accurate."}, {"start": "01:14:45", "end": "01:14:49", "text": ">> They seem muscular, too, a little bit."}, {"start": "01:14:47", "end": "01:14:51", "text": ">> Um, their necks are muscular, the tall"}, {"start": "01:14:49", "end": "01:14:55", "text": "grays. Um, the older ones have modeled"}, {"start": "01:14:51", "end": "01:14:57", "text": "skin, very very thin skin. Uh, and like"}, {"start": "01:14:55", "end": "01:15:00", "text": "I told you before, they have no"}, {"start": "01:14:57", "end": "01:15:03", "text": "subcutaneous fat. There's no padding on"}, {"start": "01:15:00", "end": "01:15:04", "text": "on uh, you know, on under their skin."}, {"start": "01:15:03", "end": "01:15:06", "text": "Um, so"}, {"start": "01:15:04", "end": "01:15:08", "text": ">> almost transparent."}, {"start": "01:15:06", "end": "01:15:10", "text": ">> Yeah. Uh, now the younger ones have"}, {"start": "01:15:08", "end": "01:15:14", "text": "thicker skin where"}, {"start": "01:15:10", "end": "01:15:17", "text": "You can see uh it's more even skin tone."}, {"start": "01:15:14", "end": "01:15:19", "text": "There's not as much unevenness like"}, {"start": "01:15:17", "end": "01:15:21", "text": "modeling like the blue modeling. Sorry,"}, {"start": "01:15:19", "end": "01:15:22", "text": "I think I need a lousen. That's fine. Do"}, {"start": "01:15:21", "end": "01:15:25", "text": "you want to take a break? We can take a"}, {"start": "01:15:22", "end": "01:15:26", "text": "break. Oh, sure. Yeah, let's do that."}, {"start": "01:15:25", "end": "01:15:28", "text": "There's something I think most people"}, {"start": "01:15:26", "end": "01:15:30", "text": "underestimate about being online. And"}, {"start": "01:15:28", "end": "01:15:33", "text": "it's not just the big platforms. It's"}, {"start": "01:15:30", "end": "01:15:35", "text": "not just social media. It's all these"}, {"start": "01:15:33", "end": "01:15:37", "text": "companies you've never heard of that are"}, {"start": "01:15:35", "end": "01:15:39", "text": "quietly collecting and selling your"}, {"start": "01:15:37", "end": "01:15:41", "text": "personal information. your name, your"}, {"start": "01:15:39", "end": "01:15:44", "text": "phone number, your home address, past"}, {"start": "01:15:41", "end": "01:15:46", "text": "accounts, even people connected to you."}, {"start": "01:15:44", "end": "01:15:48", "text": "And all of it gets compiled and sold"}, {"start": "01:15:46", "end": "01:15:50", "text": "through data brokers. The strange part"}, {"start": "01:15:48", "end": "01:15:52", "text": "is you usually never see it happen. And"}, {"start": "01:15:50", "end": "01:15:54", "text": "that's why I use Incogn. 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For me, it's"}, {"start": "01:16:17", "end": "01:16:22", "text": "less about being paranoid, although that"}, {"start": "01:16:20", "end": "01:16:23", "text": "you some things you should be paranoid"}, {"start": "01:16:22", "end": "01:16:25", "text": "about, but more about having some"}, {"start": "01:16:23", "end": "01:16:29", "text": "control over what's mine. If you want to"}, {"start": "01:16:25", "end": "01:16:32", "text": "do the same, go to incogn.com/eria52"}, {"start": "01:16:29", "end": "01:16:35", "text": "and use code area52 to save 60% on an"}, {"start": "01:16:32", "end": "01:16:37", "text": "annual plan because your privacy should"}, {"start": "01:16:35", "end": "01:16:39", "text": "not be declassified. So these beings,"}, {"start": "01:16:37", "end": "01:16:42", "text": "you said they had like these large necks"}, {"start": "01:16:39", "end": "01:16:44", "text": "and the in the photo that you showed me."}, {"start": "01:16:42", "end": "01:16:47", "text": ">> I mean, you can you can see some"}, {"start": "01:16:44", "end": "01:16:48", "text": "bruising and that's exactly what you"}, {"start": "01:16:47", "end": "01:16:51", "text": "kind of described,"}, {"start": "01:16:48", "end": "01:16:53", "text": ">> right? The the older ones are the taller"}, {"start": "01:16:51", "end": "01:16:55", "text": "ones, the younger ones are shorter."}, {"start": "01:16:53", "end": "01:16:57", "text": ">> Are they the same?"}, {"start": "01:16:55", "end": "01:17:00", "text": "Yeah, the sizzlick was the same as the"}, {"start": "01:16:57", "end": "01:17:02", "text": "ones I I saw in in other facilities when"}, {"start": "01:17:00", "end": "01:17:03", "text": "they'd removed me from my home."}, {"start": "01:17:02", "end": "01:17:04", "text": ">> But it means like the little ones, do"}, {"start": "01:17:03", "end": "01:17:06", "text": "they grow up to be"}, {"start": "01:17:04", "end": "01:17:07", "text": ">> No, no, no, no. The short ones are"}, {"start": "01:17:06", "end": "01:17:09", "text": "different species. They're they're"}, {"start": "01:17:07", "end": "01:17:11", "text": "engineered. They're worker bees. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:17:09", "end": "01:17:14", "text": ">> Um the tall ones are the natives from"}, {"start": "01:17:11", "end": "01:17:15", "text": "Zeta Reticuli. And the little ones are"}, {"start": "01:17:14", "end": "01:17:18", "text": ">> made in their image,"}, {"start": "01:17:15", "end": "01:17:19", "text": ">> right? They're recent. I mean, probably"}, {"start": "01:17:18", "end": "01:17:22", "text": "within just the last couple thousand"}, {"start": "01:17:19", "end": "01:17:24", "text": "years, they they came in. But like, but"}, {"start": "01:17:22", "end": "01:17:25", "text": "if you go back to like Sumerian days, I"}, {"start": "01:17:24", "end": "01:17:28", "text": "don't think they had like the little"}, {"start": "01:17:25", "end": "01:17:30", "text": "grays back then. I think they, you know,"}, {"start": "01:17:28", "end": "01:17:33", "text": "what you had was like the Akalu and and"}, {"start": "01:17:30", "end": "01:17:35", "text": "these other beings that were revered as"}, {"start": "01:17:33", "end": "01:17:37", "text": "gods, but I think they were emissaries"}, {"start": "01:17:35", "end": "01:17:40", "text": "for the grays going back, but that's a"}, {"start": "01:17:37", "end": "01:17:43", "text": "different theory. Um, but yeah, so we're"}, {"start": "01:17:40", "end": "01:17:46", "text": "talking about the skin. Um, the older"}, {"start": "01:17:43", "end": "01:17:48", "text": "ones, uh, they have thinner skin. It's"}, {"start": "01:17:46", "end": "01:17:51", "text": "more translucent. So you can see that uh"}, {"start": "01:17:48", "end": "01:17:56", "text": "there's like a dense capillary bed under"}, {"start": "01:17:51", "end": "01:17:58", "text": "the skin and um that jibes with the"}, {"start": "01:17:56", "end": "01:18:02", "text": "detail that we learned uh from some"}, {"start": "01:17:58", "end": "01:18:04", "text": "reports that they excrete waste and uh a"}, {"start": "01:18:02", "end": "01:18:07", "text": "lot of times abductees would smell a"}, {"start": "01:18:04", "end": "01:18:11", "text": "horrible ammonia smell or a smell of"}, {"start": "01:18:07", "end": "01:18:14", "text": "like burnt rubber uh sulfur. Um I never"}, {"start": "01:18:11", "end": "01:18:16", "text": "smelled anything in my encounters. Uh"}, {"start": "01:18:14", "end": "01:18:20", "text": "maybe it's just they had such mastery"}, {"start": "01:18:16", "end": "01:18:24", "text": "over my sensory inputs that I don't"}, {"start": "01:18:20", "end": "01:18:27", "text": "remember anything like that. Um"}, {"start": "01:18:24", "end": "01:18:29", "text": "but I I got a good look at their skin."}, {"start": "01:18:27", "end": "01:18:32", "text": "The the the young one that was on top of"}, {"start": "01:18:29", "end": "01:18:35", "text": "me and then the older ones uh you know"}, {"start": "01:18:32", "end": "01:18:40", "text": "that were really tall. Uh but their"}, {"start": "01:18:35", "end": "01:18:42", "text": "their skin is designed for um"}, {"start": "01:18:40", "end": "01:18:46", "text": "uh excreting waste through these"}, {"start": "01:18:42", "end": "01:18:50", "text": "capillaries. Uh and I believe also that"}, {"start": "01:18:46", "end": "01:18:53", "text": "they may be absorbing nutrition"}, {"start": "01:18:50", "end": "01:18:56", "text": "uh a liquid diet uh that they bathe in"}, {"start": "01:18:53", "end": "01:18:59", "text": "that they cover themselves in um that"}, {"start": "01:18:56", "end": "01:19:00", "text": ">> so they not only excrete but it's a"}, {"start": "01:18:59", "end": "01:19:03", "text": "two-way street with these pores."}, {"start": "01:19:00", "end": "01:19:04", "text": ">> I I believe that. Yes. Yes. rather than"}, {"start": "01:19:03", "end": "01:19:07", "text": "based on everything I've read. I mean,"}, {"start": "01:19:04", "end": "01:19:09", "text": "not not based on my encounters alone."}, {"start": "01:19:07", "end": "01:19:10", "text": "Based on everything I've read, I'm like"}, {"start": "01:19:09", "end": "01:19:11", "text": "a Jenga puzzle. I'm just putting"}, {"start": "01:19:10", "end": "01:19:13", "text": "everything together."}, {"start": "01:19:11", "end": "01:19:15", "text": ">> I asked yesterday if you'd read the um"}, {"start": "01:19:13", "end": "01:19:17", "text": "the file on Reddit where this a"}, {"start": "01:19:15", "end": "01:19:18", "text": "molecular biologist came out. Have you"}, {"start": "01:19:17", "end": "01:19:20", "text": "read that since or did you glanced at"}, {"start": "01:19:18", "end": "01:19:23", "text": "it? Yeah, I did. Was there anything in"}, {"start": "01:19:20", "end": "01:19:25", "text": "there that you thought, whoa, this is"}, {"start": "01:19:23", "end": "01:19:27", "text": ">> I think most of it jibes with with what"}, {"start": "01:19:25", "end": "01:19:30", "text": "I'm hypothesizing about their"}, {"start": "01:19:27", "end": "01:19:32", "text": "physiology, their biology, but I'm"}, {"start": "01:19:30", "end": "01:19:36", "text": "fascinated by them because they have"}, {"start": "01:19:32", "end": "01:19:39", "text": "such mastery when they take you. They"}, {"start": "01:19:36", "end": "01:19:41", "text": "rob you of all agency. You you can't"}, {"start": "01:19:39", "end": "01:19:43", "text": "really control your thoughts. You you"}, {"start": "01:19:41", "end": "01:19:45", "text": "you can't control your body. They can"}, {"start": "01:19:43", "end": "01:19:47", "text": "make you do things that you you wouldn't"}, {"start": "01:19:45", "end": "01:19:51", "text": "want to do and they do things to you"}, {"start": "01:19:47", "end": "01:19:54", "text": "that you would never consent to. Um so"}, {"start": "01:19:51", "end": "01:19:56", "text": "for me empowerment is aggressively"}, {"start": "01:19:54", "end": "01:20:00", "text": "trying to understand"}, {"start": "01:19:56", "end": "01:20:01", "text": "them. You know what makes them tick? Why"}, {"start": "01:20:00", "end": "01:20:04", "text": "are they doing this? What's their"}, {"start": "01:20:01", "end": "01:20:06", "text": "agenda? Uh I feel powerless if I don't"}, {"start": "01:20:04", "end": "01:20:09", "text": "ask these questions. If I if I'm not"}, {"start": "01:20:06", "end": "01:20:12", "text": "analytical about these things, I don't"}, {"start": "01:20:09", "end": "01:20:18", "text": "like them. I don't like them at all."}, {"start": "01:20:12", "end": "01:20:19", "text": "I want them gone. Um, but what can I do?"}, {"start": "01:20:18", "end": "01:20:21", "text": ">> So, you learn about them."}, {"start": "01:20:19", "end": "01:20:24", "text": ">> Yeah, just learn about them. Everything"}, {"start": "01:20:21", "end": "01:20:26", "text": "I can. Do you think they're evil?"}, {"start": "01:20:24", "end": "01:20:27", "text": ">> I think they're desperate."}, {"start": "01:20:26", "end": "01:20:30", "text": "I think that they're trying to survive."}, {"start": "01:20:27", "end": "01:20:32", "text": "And I think they want to come here. I"}, {"start": "01:20:30", "end": "01:20:35", "text": "think they want to live here on our"}, {"start": "01:20:32", "end": "01:20:38", "text": "planet. And uh they can't do so without"}, {"start": "01:20:35", "end": "01:20:39", "text": "uh borrowing heavily from our uh gene"}, {"start": "01:20:38", "end": "01:20:41", "text": "pool."}, {"start": "01:20:39", "end": "01:20:43", "text": "Let's get into that a little bit. Let's"}, {"start": "01:20:41", "end": "01:20:46", "text": "unpack that."}, {"start": "01:20:43", "end": "01:20:48", "text": "There is, you know, if you look at the"}, {"start": "01:20:46", "end": "01:20:52", "text": "story that the molecular biologist on"}, {"start": "01:20:48", "end": "01:20:57", "text": "Reddit put out, a lot of that taps into"}, {"start": "01:20:52", "end": "01:20:59", "text": "their diet and how they digest food and"}, {"start": "01:20:57", "end": "01:21:03", "text": "how they produce waste. It is said"}, {"start": "01:20:59", "end": "01:21:05", "text": "according to him that with you know the"}, {"start": "01:21:03", "end": "01:21:07", "text": "fact that they don't have teeth that"}, {"start": "01:21:05", "end": "01:21:08", "text": "they have these small openings as mouths"}, {"start": "01:21:07", "end": "01:21:12", "text": "they have a separate trachea and"}, {"start": "01:21:08", "end": "01:21:13", "text": "esophagus which by the way genius"}, {"start": "01:21:12", "end": "01:21:17", "text": ">> um"}, {"start": "01:21:13", "end": "01:21:19", "text": "he said that they mainly would have to"}, {"start": "01:21:17", "end": "01:21:21", "text": "you know consume a liquid diet high in"}, {"start": "01:21:19", "end": "01:21:22", "text": "copper. Yeah,"}, {"start": "01:21:21", "end": "01:21:24", "text": ">> because copper was found to be, you"}, {"start": "01:21:22", "end": "01:21:25", "text": "know, in really high content in the"}, {"start": "01:21:24", "end": "01:21:26", "text": "blood and"}, {"start": "01:21:25", "end": "01:21:27", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:21:26", "end": "01:21:30", "text": ">> Um,"}, {"start": "01:21:27", "end": "01:21:34", "text": "you have a theory on this and it's not"}, {"start": "01:21:30", "end": "01:21:36", "text": "necessarily a theory that is"}, {"start": "01:21:34", "end": "01:21:37", "text": "it's not it's not of love and light."}, {"start": "01:21:36", "end": "01:21:40", "text": "I'll tell you that."}, {"start": "01:21:37", "end": "01:21:41", "text": ">> No, it's very dark. Um, and I'm I'm very"}, {"start": "01:21:40", "end": "01:21:43", "text": "discouraged by it."}, {"start": "01:21:41", "end": "01:21:44", "text": ">> And this is in your your recent book,"}, {"start": "01:21:43", "end": "01:21:46", "text": "uh, The Blood Covenant."}, {"start": "01:21:44", "end": "01:21:48", "text": ">> Yeah. It's called A Blood Covenant."}, {"start": "01:21:46", "end": "01:21:50", "text": ">> Blood Covenant. the alien agenda behind"}, {"start": "01:21:48", "end": "01:21:53", "text": "civilization and human domestication."}, {"start": "01:21:50", "end": "01:21:55", "text": ">> So, the idea is that they drink blood"}, {"start": "01:21:53", "end": "01:21:57", "text": ">> uh or at least consume"}, {"start": "01:21:55", "end": "01:21:58", "text": ">> consume it. Yeah. Not not orally drink"}, {"start": "01:21:57", "end": "01:22:04", "text": "it, but yeah, consume it. And they've"}, {"start": "01:21:58", "end": "01:22:09", "text": "been doing so um for millennia. Uh and"}, {"start": "01:22:04", "end": "01:22:13", "text": "they they used to do it wholesale. Uh"}, {"start": "01:22:09", "end": "01:22:14", "text": "I I started to notice uh as I was"}, {"start": "01:22:13", "end": "01:22:17", "text": "looking at ancient astronaut theory"}, {"start": "01:22:14", "end": "01:22:19", "text": "because I got into that after 2020 when"}, {"start": "01:22:17", "end": "01:22:21", "text": "these things started happening to me."}, {"start": "01:22:19", "end": "01:22:24", "text": "Uh, I became interested in the the show"}, {"start": "01:22:21", "end": "01:22:26", "text": "Ancient Aliens, which uh, a lot of times"}, {"start": "01:22:24", "end": "01:22:28", "text": "it can be such a silly show and they"}, {"start": "01:22:26", "end": "01:22:31", "text": "they they have ridiculous speculation"}, {"start": "01:22:28", "end": "01:22:35", "text": "sometimes, but they do a lot right and"}, {"start": "01:22:31", "end": "01:22:37", "text": "they they do look and and match up uh,"}, {"start": "01:22:35", "end": "01:22:40", "text": "clues from across civilizations, across"}, {"start": "01:22:37", "end": "01:22:42", "text": "oceans, all around the world. And they"}, {"start": "01:22:40", "end": "01:22:46", "text": "ask a lot of intriguing questions that"}, {"start": "01:22:42", "end": "01:22:50", "text": "are worth asking. And um so I I started"}, {"start": "01:22:46", "end": "01:22:52", "text": "to look into that and I noticed um there"}, {"start": "01:22:50", "end": "01:22:54", "text": "were cultural clues linking all of the"}, {"start": "01:22:52", "end": "01:22:56", "text": "pyramid building societies around the"}, {"start": "01:22:54", "end": "01:23:00", "text": "world. Whether you're talking about the"}, {"start": "01:22:56", "end": "01:23:02", "text": "the American pyramids, you know, whether"}, {"start": "01:23:00", "end": "01:23:05", "text": "it's the pyramidal mounds of the"}, {"start": "01:23:02", "end": "01:23:08", "text": "Mississippians in Cahokia, Illinois, or"}, {"start": "01:23:05", "end": "01:23:11", "text": "the, you know, in Meso and America like"}, {"start": "01:23:08", "end": "01:23:14", "text": "me, Mexico, you know, Guatemala, you"}, {"start": "01:23:11", "end": "01:23:17", "text": "know, these the Mayans and the Aztecs,"}, {"start": "01:23:14", "end": "01:23:20", "text": "these pyramids um"}, {"start": "01:23:17", "end": "01:23:23", "text": "and and and some of these pyramids have"}, {"start": "01:23:20", "end": "01:23:26", "text": "uh corollaries almost identical"}, {"start": "01:23:23", "end": "01:23:29", "text": "architecture Like in Cambodia, you can"}, {"start": "01:23:26", "end": "01:23:32", "text": "compare a Cambodian pyramid against uh"}, {"start": "01:23:29", "end": "01:23:35", "text": "one in Guatemala and they're nearly"}, {"start": "01:23:32", "end": "01:23:38", "text": "identical. And you know, 8,000 mi of"}, {"start": "01:23:35", "end": "01:23:41", "text": "ocean between them and and we we were"}, {"start": "01:23:38", "end": "01:23:43", "text": "supposedly not a ocean fairing species"}, {"start": "01:23:41", "end": "01:23:47", "text": "at the time. I don't know, this is"}, {"start": "01:23:43", "end": "01:23:48", "text": "probably like uh 3rd millennia uh BCE"}, {"start": "01:23:47", "end": "01:23:53", "text": "when when a lot of these pyramids were"}, {"start": "01:23:48", "end": "01:23:54", "text": "being built. But anyway, um"}, {"start": "01:23:53", "end": "01:23:58", "text": "I'm I'm sure I don't get the dates"}, {"start": "01:23:54", "end": "01:24:01", "text": "right, but uh I I just started to notice"}, {"start": "01:23:58", "end": "01:24:03", "text": "that there were there was clues that"}, {"start": "01:24:01", "end": "01:24:07", "text": "seem to"}, {"start": "01:24:03", "end": "01:24:08", "text": "connect the grays through emissaries to"}, {"start": "01:24:07", "end": "01:24:10", "text": "these pyramids."}, {"start": "01:24:08", "end": "01:24:11", "text": ">> And by emissaries, you mean the gods"}, {"start": "01:24:10", "end": "01:24:14", "text": "that they worshiped."}, {"start": "01:24:11", "end": "01:24:15", "text": ">> Right. Right. And uh and I noticed, you"}, {"start": "01:24:14", "end": "01:24:17", "text": "know, and I'm not the first one to"}, {"start": "01:24:15", "end": "01:24:18", "text": "notice this. I'm just putting it all"}, {"start": "01:24:17", "end": "01:24:20", "text": "together. I'm reading other people's"}, {"start": "01:24:18", "end": "01:24:21", "text": "stuff and you know none of this is"}, {"start": "01:24:20", "end": "01:24:23", "text": "original to me."}, {"start": "01:24:21", "end": "01:24:25", "text": ">> Yeah. We're we're theory crafting,"}, {"start": "01:24:23", "end": "01:24:27", "text": ">> right? So what I'm do what I did with"}, {"start": "01:24:25", "end": "01:24:29", "text": "the book was I took ancient astronaut"}, {"start": "01:24:27", "end": "01:24:31", "text": "theory, everything I've been reading,"}, {"start": "01:24:29", "end": "01:24:34", "text": "everything I've been putting together"}, {"start": "01:24:31", "end": "01:24:37", "text": "and uh I basically assigned all of that"}, {"start": "01:24:34", "end": "01:24:39", "text": "to the graves of Zeta Reticuli whether"}, {"start": "01:24:37", "end": "01:24:44", "text": "whether directly or through emissaries."}, {"start": "01:24:39", "end": "01:24:46", "text": "But I I came to the thought that"}, {"start": "01:24:44", "end": "01:24:49", "text": "in the Americas these pyramid building"}, {"start": "01:24:46", "end": "01:24:52", "text": "societies they they were highly a typo"}, {"start": "01:24:49", "end": "01:24:54", "text": "population O positive like more than 73%"}, {"start": "01:24:52", "end": "01:25:00", "text": "of the these populations these American"}, {"start": "01:24:54", "end": "01:25:03", "text": "tribal populations are typo and u typo"}, {"start": "01:25:00", "end": "01:25:06", "text": "lacks the A and B antigens uh and it's"}, {"start": "01:25:03", "end": "01:25:09", "text": "uh you know easier in terms of tissue"}, {"start": "01:25:06", "end": "01:25:13", "text": "rejection. So, uh, O negative is the"}, {"start": "01:25:09", "end": "01:25:17", "text": "best, uh, donor, but O positive is far"}, {"start": "01:25:13", "end": "01:25:19", "text": "better than A or B or AB. And, uh, so I"}, {"start": "01:25:17", "end": "01:25:22", "text": "noticed"}, {"start": "01:25:19", "end": "01:25:24", "text": "every place there was, uh, human"}, {"start": "01:25:22", "end": "01:25:27", "text": "sacrifices, blood sacrifice rituals"}, {"start": "01:25:24", "end": "01:25:29", "text": "around the world, typo."}, {"start": "01:25:27", "end": "01:25:31", "text": "Like, that's significant. All right,"}, {"start": "01:25:29", "end": "01:25:34", "text": "that's something to look at."}, {"start": "01:25:31", "end": "01:25:37", "text": "uh and uh now in the Middle East where"}, {"start": "01:25:34", "end": "01:25:39", "text": "they they had animal sacrifices but"}, {"start": "01:25:37", "end": "01:25:42", "text": "there you have high populations of A and"}, {"start": "01:25:39", "end": "01:25:45", "text": "B antigens and not as much oh in the"}, {"start": "01:25:42", "end": "01:25:47", "text": "Middle East you know like the you know"}, {"start": "01:25:45", "end": "01:25:50", "text": "the Hebrews and that you know they're"}, {"start": "01:25:47", "end": "01:25:53", "text": "not type O. So"}, {"start": "01:25:50", "end": "01:25:56", "text": "it I'm like okay but they're they they"}, {"start": "01:25:53", "end": "01:25:58", "text": "revered cattle but they didn't eat"}, {"start": "01:25:56", "end": "01:26:00", "text": "cattle and and I'm thinking that's kind"}, {"start": "01:25:58", "end": "01:26:02", "text": "of interesting. I stuck that in the back"}, {"start": "01:26:00", "end": "01:26:04", "text": "of my mind. And then uh the Egyptians"}, {"start": "01:26:02", "end": "01:26:08", "text": "revered cattle too, but they didn't"}, {"start": "01:26:04", "end": "01:26:11", "text": "really eat cattle. Uh and and then with"}, {"start": "01:26:08", "end": "01:26:13", "text": "with the in recent, you know, years with"}, {"start": "01:26:11", "end": "01:26:15", "text": "the cattle mutilations like the work of"}, {"start": "01:26:13", "end": "01:26:17", "text": "Linda Molton How and stuff, these"}, {"start": "01:26:15", "end": "01:26:19", "text": "animals are completely exanguinated uh"}, {"start": "01:26:17", "end": "01:26:22", "text": "when their carcasses are dumped and and"}, {"start": "01:26:19", "end": "01:26:24", "text": "and certain tissues are removed that"}, {"start": "01:26:22", "end": "01:26:28", "text": "appear to be with high heat instruments"}, {"start": "01:26:24", "end": "01:26:30", "text": "like a laser some kind. Um, so I I'm"}, {"start": "01:26:28", "end": "01:26:32", "text": "just I wonder if there's a connection."}, {"start": "01:26:30", "end": "01:26:36", "text": ">> And then that kind of led me to this"}, {"start": "01:26:32", "end": "01:26:39", "text": "idea of blood consumption. Like why"}, {"start": "01:26:36", "end": "01:26:41", "text": "why were the Mayans and the Aztecs"}, {"start": "01:26:39", "end": "01:26:44", "text": "giving blood to their gods? Why why"}, {"start": "01:26:41", "end": "01:26:46", "text": "would God demand,"}, {"start": "01:26:44", "end": "01:26:48", "text": ">> you know, that you kill a certain number"}, {"start": "01:26:46", "end": "01:26:50", "text": "of people? And I realized, well, look,"}, {"start": "01:26:48", "end": "01:26:52", "text": "they they all have like they they've got"}, {"start": "01:26:50", "end": "01:26:54", "text": "these pyramids. They have similar"}, {"start": "01:26:52", "end": "01:26:56", "text": "writings, sim similar agriculture, all"}, {"start": "01:26:54", "end": "01:26:59", "text": "these things. they have all these the"}, {"start": "01:26:56", "end": "01:27:00", "text": "similar trappings of society, you know,"}, {"start": "01:26:59", "end": "01:27:02", "text": "that brings them together. I'm like,"}, {"start": "01:27:00", "end": "01:27:04", "text": "well, what if they were domesticated in"}, {"start": "01:27:02", "end": "01:27:07", "text": "order for to more efficiently harvest"}, {"start": "01:27:04", "end": "01:27:09", "text": "them uh for their old blood and um so"}, {"start": "01:27:07", "end": "01:27:12", "text": "that kind of led to the idea and so I"}, {"start": "01:27:09", "end": "01:27:14", "text": "started to look okay so what what if"}, {"start": "01:27:12", "end": "01:27:17", "text": "they do need to consume blood for"}, {"start": "01:27:14", "end": "01:27:19", "text": "nutrition? Um so then I started to look"}, {"start": "01:27:17", "end": "01:27:21", "text": "at their their physiology, their"}, {"start": "01:27:19", "end": "01:27:22", "text": "biology. I'm I'm not a biochemist. I'm"}, {"start": "01:27:21", "end": "01:27:24", "text": "not a"}, {"start": "01:27:22", "end": "01:27:27", "text": ">> what's your blood type? Uh, I think I"}, {"start": "01:27:24", "end": "01:27:30", "text": "may be positive. Yeah. Uh, they seem to"}, {"start": "01:27:27", "end": "01:27:33", "text": "like A and B for breeding and O for"}, {"start": "01:27:30", "end": "01:27:34", "text": "consumption. So, if you're type O or O"}, {"start": "01:27:33", "end": "01:27:37", "text": "negative,"}, {"start": "01:27:34", "end": "01:27:40", "text": "uh, and you're in the wilderness camping"}, {"start": "01:27:37", "end": "01:27:46", "text": "alone in in UFO hotspots, you might"}, {"start": "01:27:40", "end": "01:27:48", "text": "disappear and never come back. H, that's"}, {"start": "01:27:46", "end": "01:27:50", "text": "uh, yeah, it's a creepy thought."}, {"start": "01:27:48", "end": "01:27:54", "text": ">> Yeah, it is kind of, but uh, it's just a"}, {"start": "01:27:50", "end": "01:27:57", "text": "theory. And so how does So okay, they're"}, {"start": "01:27:54", "end": "01:27:59", "text": "consuming boine blood because of the"}, {"start": "01:27:57", "end": "01:28:02", "text": "close genetic resemblance to human"}, {"start": "01:27:59", "end": "01:28:05", "text": "blood. I believe what they're doing is"}, {"start": "01:28:02", "end": "01:28:07", "text": "because these days they can't just"}, {"start": "01:28:05", "end": "01:28:09", "text": "demand, okay, we need 200 people's worth"}, {"start": "01:28:07", "end": "01:28:11", "text": "of blood, you know, they they can't go"}, {"start": "01:28:09", "end": "01:28:13", "text": "to the Mayas or the Aztecs anymore and"}, {"start": "01:28:11", "end": "01:28:13", "text": "say, give us blood,"}, {"start": "01:28:13", "end": "01:28:15", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "01:28:13", "end": "01:28:18", "text": ">> You know, in exchange for favors."}, {"start": "01:28:15", "end": "01:28:20", "text": ">> Uh they can't do that in mass anymore. I"}, {"start": "01:28:18", "end": "01:28:23", "text": "think what happened was maybe they were"}, {"start": "01:28:20", "end": "01:28:25", "text": "being overh harvested at the time uh"}, {"start": "01:28:23", "end": "01:28:27", "text": "back when the Mayans just abandoned"}, {"start": "01:28:25", "end": "01:28:29", "text": "their cities overnight. That could be"}, {"start": "01:28:27", "end": "01:28:30", "text": "because they were being overh harvested"}, {"start": "01:28:29", "end": "01:28:32", "text": "and they freaked them out and there was"}, {"start": "01:28:30", "end": "01:28:35", "text": "it the blood covenant wasn't worth the"}, {"start": "01:28:32", "end": "01:28:37", "text": "exchange anymore. So they they abandoned"}, {"start": "01:28:35", "end": "01:28:38", "text": "these cities that they were inspired to"}, {"start": "01:28:37", "end": "01:28:39", "text": "create."}, {"start": "01:28:38", "end": "01:28:39", "text": ">> Uh just a theory."}, {"start": "01:28:39", "end": "01:28:42", "text": ">> It's wild,"}, {"start": "01:28:39", "end": "01:28:44", "text": ">> right? It's it's uh you know, you"}, {"start": "01:28:42", "end": "01:28:46", "text": "mentioned this too last night, but it's"}, {"start": "01:28:44", "end": "01:28:47", "text": "the closest thing to like vampiric"}, {"start": "01:28:46", "end": "01:28:50", "text": "folklore that we have,"}, {"start": "01:28:47", "end": "01:28:52", "text": ">> right? Well, they can't be in sunlight."}, {"start": "01:28:50", "end": "01:28:54", "text": "They have very thin skin with a dense"}, {"start": "01:28:52", "end": "01:28:56", "text": "capillary bed right under this"}, {"start": "01:28:54", "end": "01:28:59", "text": ">> translucent skin. They would burn"}, {"start": "01:28:56", "end": "01:29:02", "text": "horribly in sunlight. So, you'll never"}, {"start": "01:28:59", "end": "01:29:05", "text": "see a tall gray out in the sunshine. Um,"}, {"start": "01:29:02", "end": "01:29:07", "text": "the the small the short grays, the"}, {"start": "01:29:05", "end": "01:29:09", "text": "little worker bees, they have a little"}, {"start": "01:29:07", "end": "01:29:11", "text": "bit of padding under their skin, a"}, {"start": "01:29:09", "end": "01:29:13", "text": "little bit of subcutaneous fat. They"}, {"start": "01:29:11", "end": "01:29:15", "text": "have the ability to be in sunlight for"}, {"start": "01:29:13", "end": "01:29:16", "text": "short periods, not as long as you or I"}, {"start": "01:29:15", "end": "01:29:17", "text": "could,"}, {"start": "01:29:16", "end": "01:29:20", "text": ">> like a like a familiar."}, {"start": "01:29:17", "end": "01:29:23", "text": ">> Yeah, they're but they're they're able"}, {"start": "01:29:20", "end": "01:29:24", "text": "to tolerate our biosphere better. And I"}, {"start": "01:29:23", "end": "01:29:24", "text": "think they're engineered"}, {"start": "01:29:24", "end": "01:29:27", "text": ">> that way"}, {"start": "01:29:24", "end": "01:29:29", "text": ">> to that way in order to do the home"}, {"start": "01:29:27", "end": "01:29:32", "text": "invasions and take people like me out of"}, {"start": "01:29:29", "end": "01:29:36", "text": "my bed. So, what's your best theory on"}, {"start": "01:29:32", "end": "01:29:38", "text": "why it is they are here? Because,"}, {"start": "01:29:36", "end": "01:29:40", "text": ">> you know, I'm sure there's"}, {"start": "01:29:38", "end": "01:29:42", "text": ">> nutrition elsewhere. What's what's"}, {"start": "01:29:40", "end": "01:29:44", "text": "what's so special about here? Why why do"}, {"start": "01:29:42", "end": "01:29:46", "text": "you think the Zetas come here?"}, {"start": "01:29:44", "end": "01:29:47", "text": ">> It's a huge it's a huge conversation"}, {"start": "01:29:46", "end": "01:29:51", "text": "unto itself, but I'll I'll give you the"}, {"start": "01:29:47", "end": "01:29:54", "text": "cliffotes. I think that they um I think"}, {"start": "01:29:51", "end": "01:29:57", "text": "that their planet uh is smaller than"}, {"start": "01:29:54", "end": "01:29:59", "text": "Earth. That's why they're taller. Um,"}, {"start": "01:29:57", "end": "01:30:01", "text": "and if you look at their their uh"}, {"start": "01:29:59", "end": "01:30:05", "text": ">> wouldn't that make them smaller?"}, {"start": "01:30:01", "end": "01:30:06", "text": ">> Uh, no. They they lower gravity, they"}, {"start": "01:30:05", "end": "01:30:10", "text": ">> lower gravity, but if you put a shark in"}, {"start": "01:30:06", "end": "01:30:11", "text": "like an aquarium, the shark is smaller."}, {"start": "01:30:10", "end": "01:30:14", "text": "Do you know what I mean? Like if if the"}, {"start": "01:30:11", "end": "01:30:16", "text": "um if the environment is less conducive"}, {"start": "01:30:14", "end": "01:30:18", "text": "to having large things on it, you know"}, {"start": "01:30:16", "end": "01:30:20", "text": "what I mean? Wouldn't that make them"}, {"start": "01:30:18", "end": "01:30:22", "text": ">> I don't think No, because I mean, you're"}, {"start": "01:30:20", "end": "01:30:24", "text": "there's still a lot of surface area on a"}, {"start": "01:30:22", "end": "01:30:25", "text": "planet bigger than Mars, but smaller"}, {"start": "01:30:24", "end": "01:30:28", "text": "than Earth. there's still a lot of"}, {"start": "01:30:25", "end": "01:30:30", "text": "surface area, but it it's a so they"}, {"start": "01:30:28", "end": "01:30:32", "text": "likely come from a lighter gravity"}, {"start": "01:30:30", "end": "01:30:32", "text": "environment, so they're taller or more"}, {"start": "01:30:32", "end": "01:30:35", "text": "oxygen."}, {"start": "01:30:32", "end": "01:30:37", "text": ">> Um, now why why do they have these big"}, {"start": "01:30:35", "end": "01:30:40", "text": "black eyes with these black lenses over"}, {"start": "01:30:37", "end": "01:30:43", "text": "their eyes and and you know, why why are"}, {"start": "01:30:40", "end": "01:30:45", "text": "they so pale uh and and can't be out in"}, {"start": "01:30:43", "end": "01:30:48", "text": "sunlight? Well, probably because they're"}, {"start": "01:30:45", "end": "01:30:49", "text": "adapted to be indoors or underground and"}, {"start": "01:30:48", "end": "01:30:51", "text": "why would they be underground? Well,"}, {"start": "01:30:49", "end": "01:30:52", "text": "what if they lost their magnetic field?"}, {"start": "01:30:51", "end": "01:30:54", "text": "Because their planet is smaller than"}, {"start": "01:30:52", "end": "01:30:57", "text": "Earth. that may have cooled off a long"}, {"start": "01:30:54", "end": "01:31:00", "text": "time ago. They might have lost their"}, {"start": "01:30:57", "end": "01:31:02", "text": "magnetic field and uh subject to cosmic"}, {"start": "01:31:00", "end": "01:31:05", "text": "and solar radiation on their planet. So"}, {"start": "01:31:02", "end": "01:31:09", "text": "they might have had to have adapted to"}, {"start": "01:31:05", "end": "01:31:10", "text": "underground conditions and um so"}, {"start": "01:31:09", "end": "01:31:13", "text": ">> so over time"}, {"start": "01:31:10", "end": "01:31:17", "text": ">> so over time they they they they"}, {"start": "01:31:13", "end": "01:31:18", "text": "optimized their genetics to uh to be in"}, {"start": "01:31:17", "end": "01:31:21", "text": "a different type of biosphere"}, {"start": "01:31:18", "end": "01:31:24", "text": "underground. So, um, but then I'm"}, {"start": "01:31:21", "end": "01:31:26", "text": "thinking, okay, well, if they're adapted"}, {"start": "01:31:24", "end": "01:31:28", "text": "for living underground on their own"}, {"start": "01:31:26", "end": "01:31:31", "text": "planet, why are they coming here? Well,"}, {"start": "01:31:28", "end": "01:31:33", "text": "what if what if there's there's some"}, {"start": "01:31:31", "end": "01:31:36", "text": "other clues that that really intrigued"}, {"start": "01:31:33", "end": "01:31:38", "text": "me um related to the loss of their"}, {"start": "01:31:36", "end": "01:31:42", "text": "magnetic field? Now, do you remember"}, {"start": "01:31:38", "end": "01:31:44", "text": "what Bob Lazar said when uh he read"}, {"start": "01:31:42", "end": "01:31:45", "text": "these briefing papers at S4?"}, {"start": "01:31:44", "end": "01:31:47", "text": ">> Yeah. Containers,"}, {"start": "01:31:45", "end": "01:31:50", "text": ">> right? that the the the military"}, {"start": "01:31:47", "end": "01:31:53", "text": "reported that the grays considered"}, {"start": "01:31:50", "end": "01:31:55", "text": "humans as containers and we were given"}, {"start": "01:31:53", "end": "01:31:59", "text": "religion so that we wouldn't damage the"}, {"start": "01:31:55", "end": "01:32:02", "text": "containers. Um, and he speculated, but"}, {"start": "01:31:59", "end": "01:32:04", "text": "he he doesn't really stand beside this"}, {"start": "01:32:02", "end": "01:32:05", "text": "firmly, like but he was speculated,"}, {"start": "01:32:04", "end": "01:32:08", "text": "well, maybe they meant containers of"}, {"start": "01:32:05", "end": "01:32:12", "text": "souls, you know, or containers of blood"}, {"start": "01:32:08", "end": "01:32:16", "text": "since they consume blood, but they it it"}, {"start": "01:32:12", "end": "01:32:17", "text": "they they could grow a a blood factory"}, {"start": "01:32:16", "end": "01:32:19", "text": "or something if they like"}, {"start": "01:32:17", "end": "01:32:20", "text": ">> That's what I would assume, too. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:32:19", "end": "01:32:21", "text": "They could just find some other means of"}, {"start": "01:32:20", "end": "01:32:24", "text": "nutrition,"}, {"start": "01:32:21", "end": "01:32:27", "text": ">> right? But but so Right. Exactly. So I'm"}, {"start": "01:32:24", "end": "01:32:30", "text": "thinking, well, it has to be more about"}, {"start": "01:32:27", "end": "01:32:32", "text": "the souls. Okay, so what's so great"}, {"start": "01:32:30", "end": "01:32:34", "text": "about our planet? Well, we still have a"}, {"start": "01:32:32", "end": "01:32:37", "text": "magnetic field. Well, what if, now think"}, {"start": "01:32:34", "end": "01:32:39", "text": "about this, when a person is living,"}, {"start": "01:32:37", "end": "01:32:41", "text": "they have an active"}, {"start": "01:32:39", "end": "01:32:43", "text": "um nervous system with electrical"}, {"start": "01:32:41", "end": "01:32:45", "text": "activity. What if that is the anchor"}, {"start": "01:32:43", "end": "01:32:48", "text": "like a Faraday cage, like an electrical"}, {"start": "01:32:45", "end": "01:32:51", "text": "anchor that keeps a soul in the body?"}, {"start": "01:32:48", "end": "01:32:54", "text": "And when you die, your nervous system"}, {"start": "01:32:51", "end": "01:32:57", "text": "just the the electrical activity ceases"}, {"start": "01:32:54", "end": "01:32:58", "text": "and then the soul just escapes the body"}, {"start": "01:32:57", "end": "01:33:02", "text": "and goes somewhere. Well, where's it"}, {"start": "01:32:58", "end": "01:33:05", "text": "going to go if it needs to be um in in"}, {"start": "01:33:02", "end": "01:33:08", "text": "in some kind of an EM field or"}, {"start": "01:33:05", "end": "01:33:09", "text": "electrical activity around it? Well,"}, {"start": "01:33:08", "end": "01:33:11", "text": "wouldn't it naturally go into the"}, {"start": "01:33:09", "end": "01:33:14", "text": "Earth's magnetic field? Wouldn't that be"}, {"start": "01:33:11", "end": "01:33:16", "text": "like what we call heaven or or the light"}, {"start": "01:33:14", "end": "01:33:18", "text": "at the end of the tunnel? Maybe that's"}, {"start": "01:33:16", "end": "01:33:20", "text": "the bioplasma,"}, {"start": "01:33:18", "end": "01:33:22", "text": "you know, of of the earth's magnetic"}, {"start": "01:33:20", "end": "01:33:25", "text": "field. So what what if it's like alive"}, {"start": "01:33:22", "end": "01:33:29", "text": "with consciousness uh as like a way"}, {"start": "01:33:25", "end": "01:33:30", "text": "station between incarnations? So"}, {"start": "01:33:29", "end": "01:33:32", "text": ">> So what if"}, {"start": "01:33:30", "end": "01:33:34", "text": ">> let's just say for the sake of argument"}, {"start": "01:33:32", "end": "01:33:37", "text": "that that is a thing that that that"}, {"start": "01:33:34", "end": "01:33:39", "text": "mechanism actually exists."}, {"start": "01:33:37", "end": "01:33:42", "text": ">> So what would happen on their planet"}, {"start": "01:33:39", "end": "01:33:43", "text": "after they lost their magnetic field?"}, {"start": "01:33:42", "end": "01:33:44", "text": ">> The other souls would just go out into"}, {"start": "01:33:43", "end": "01:33:47", "text": "the ether,"}, {"start": "01:33:44", "end": "01:33:49", "text": ">> right? So, you would need to be able to"}, {"start": "01:33:47", "end": "01:33:52", "text": "develop the ability to"}, {"start": "01:33:49", "end": "01:33:55", "text": ">> to trap it and transfer it into a a a"}, {"start": "01:33:52", "end": "01:33:57", "text": "new cloned body cuz they're obviously"}, {"start": "01:33:55", "end": "01:34:01", "text": "they don't they don't reproduce"}, {"start": "01:33:57", "end": "01:34:06", "text": "sexually. Um, so you have to you have to"}, {"start": "01:34:01", "end": "01:34:08", "text": "be able to either move their soul from a"}, {"start": "01:34:06", "end": "01:34:12", "text": "a dying body into a new clone body. and"}, {"start": "01:34:08", "end": "01:34:14", "text": "and some some um author researchers have"}, {"start": "01:34:12", "end": "01:34:16", "text": "have spoken to abductees who have who"}, {"start": "01:34:14", "end": "01:34:17", "text": "have witnessed supposedly allegedly uh"}, {"start": "01:34:16", "end": "01:34:19", "text": ">> soul transfer"}, {"start": "01:34:17", "end": "01:34:19", "text": ">> soul transfer right so what if they had"}, {"start": "01:34:19", "end": "01:34:21", "text": "that"}, {"start": "01:34:19", "end": "01:34:22", "text": ">> and Tom Dong even talked about that at"}, {"start": "01:34:21", "end": "01:34:24", "text": "one point"}, {"start": "01:34:22", "end": "01:34:26", "text": ">> right I now I know nothing about that"}, {"start": "01:34:24", "end": "01:34:27", "text": ">> but I'm just taking that as a data point"}, {"start": "01:34:26", "end": "01:34:29", "text": ">> yeah we're lore mashing we're we're"}, {"start": "01:34:27", "end": "01:34:31", "text": "taking we're taking you know things and"}, {"start": "01:34:29", "end": "01:34:34", "text": "we're theory crafting I like it"}, {"start": "01:34:31", "end": "01:34:36", "text": ">> right so so what I'm suggesting is that"}, {"start": "01:34:34", "end": "01:34:38", "text": "what if they were losing souls to"}, {"start": "01:34:36", "end": "01:34:40", "text": "migration what if the souls"}, {"start": "01:34:38", "end": "01:34:43", "text": "that every time a gray died, a tall gray"}, {"start": "01:34:40", "end": "01:34:45", "text": "died, its soul couldn't enter the"}, {"start": "01:34:43", "end": "01:34:47", "text": "magnetic field. It was too weak or it"}, {"start": "01:34:45", "end": "01:34:49", "text": "was gone. What if it migrated over to"}, {"start": "01:34:47", "end": "01:34:52", "text": "Earth? And what if most of their souls"}, {"start": "01:34:49", "end": "01:34:55", "text": "so every time one of uh you know they"}, {"start": "01:34:52", "end": "01:34:57", "text": "would try to bring to life one of their"}, {"start": "01:34:55", "end": "01:35:00", "text": "their clones from its chamber or"}, {"start": "01:34:57", "end": "01:35:03", "text": "whatever they grow it in um gestate it"}, {"start": "01:35:00", "end": "01:35:05", "text": "in. um what if it doesn't achieve"}, {"start": "01:35:03", "end": "01:35:07", "text": "consciousness because there's no soul to"}, {"start": "01:35:05", "end": "01:35:10", "text": "enter it and so their population"}, {"start": "01:35:07", "end": "01:35:14", "text": "dwindled and they had to come here in"}, {"start": "01:35:10", "end": "01:35:16", "text": "order to like reclaim what they lost to"}, {"start": "01:35:14", "end": "01:35:17", "text": "migration. What if those souls migrated"}, {"start": "01:35:16", "end": "01:35:19", "text": "to the earth"}, {"start": "01:35:17", "end": "01:35:21", "text": ">> to the closest nearest magneettosphere?"}, {"start": "01:35:19", "end": "01:35:22", "text": ">> Now this is the most woo stuff you're"}, {"start": "01:35:21", "end": "01:35:24", "text": "ever sure because I like to stay"}, {"start": "01:35:22", "end": "01:35:26", "text": "grounded in in scientific"}, {"start": "01:35:24", "end": "01:35:30", "text": ">> I like this theory. Um I think it's"}, {"start": "01:35:26", "end": "01:35:32", "text": "fine. Um, so are you saying that if"}, {"start": "01:35:30", "end": "01:35:35", "text": "someone gave birth in the ISS, it would"}, {"start": "01:35:32", "end": "01:35:37", "text": "be like a stillborn, soulless child?"}, {"start": "01:35:35", "end": "01:35:39", "text": ">> Well, no. The soul's available on on the"}, {"start": "01:35:37", "end": "01:35:40", "text": "ISS because there's there's the magnetic"}, {"start": "01:35:39", "end": "01:35:42", "text": "field is still around."}, {"start": "01:35:40", "end": "01:35:43", "text": ">> And what if you were like"}, {"start": "01:35:42", "end": "01:35:44", "text": ">> it's still"}, {"start": "01:35:43", "end": "01:35:46", "text": ">> behind the moon."}, {"start": "01:35:44", "end": "01:35:47", "text": ">> But no, I don't think that would hurt it"}, {"start": "01:35:46", "end": "01:35:48", "text": "because it's still like"}, {"start": "01:35:47", "end": "01:35:50", "text": ">> it's still close enough in proximity,"}, {"start": "01:35:48", "end": "01:35:51", "text": ">> right? But but if"}, {"start": "01:35:50", "end": "01:35:52", "text": ">> but there is a point in space where you"}, {"start": "01:35:51", "end": "01:35:54", "text": "get to"}, {"start": "01:35:52", "end": "01:35:55", "text": ">> if you're talking 39 12 light years."}, {"start": "01:35:54", "end": "01:35:57", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:35:55", "end": "01:35:59", "text": ">> Yeah. Maybe maybe distance becomes an"}, {"start": "01:35:57", "end": "01:36:00", "text": "issue. Again, this is just"}, {"start": "01:35:59", "end": "01:36:02", "text": ">> Yeah, sure. Sure. I'm just saying"}, {"start": "01:36:00", "end": "01:36:04", "text": ">> pie in the sky speculation. I'm I'm not"}, {"start": "01:36:02", "end": "01:36:05", "text": "an expert on the grays. I'm I'm trying"}, {"start": "01:36:04", "end": "01:36:06", "text": "to become one."}, {"start": "01:36:05", "end": "01:36:07", "text": ">> Yeah, of course."}, {"start": "01:36:06", "end": "01:36:10", "text": ">> But I I'm But"}, {"start": "01:36:07", "end": "01:36:14", "text": ">> no, I'm I'm with you. Um Okay. So, let's"}, {"start": "01:36:10", "end": "01:36:16", "text": "say now that let's say this is real."}, {"start": "01:36:14", "end": "01:36:18", "text": "They lose their magneettosphere. They"}, {"start": "01:36:16", "end": "01:36:21", "text": "lose their ability to incarnate and they"}, {"start": "01:36:18", "end": "01:36:25", "text": "have to sort of manually transfer souls."}, {"start": "01:36:21", "end": "01:36:26", "text": "And it sounds really sad and and"}, {"start": "01:36:25", "end": "01:36:27", "text": "desperate."}, {"start": "01:36:26", "end": "01:36:30", "text": ">> That's why I said they're desperate."}, {"start": "01:36:27", "end": "01:36:33", "text": ">> Yeah. And you know to come here and then"}, {"start": "01:36:30", "end": "01:36:35", "text": "so what is the purpose of the"}, {"start": "01:36:33", "end": "01:36:39", "text": "hybridization in that case?"}, {"start": "01:36:35", "end": "01:36:41", "text": ">> Well um they don't trust us. Now, if"}, {"start": "01:36:39", "end": "01:36:43", "text": "you'll remember what uh Whitley Strieber"}, {"start": "01:36:41", "end": "01:36:46", "text": "said, uh what he was told by the grays"}, {"start": "01:36:43", "end": "01:36:48", "text": "is that uh vocal or voiced uh sentient"}, {"start": "01:36:46", "end": "01:36:51", "text": "species don't last very long"}, {"start": "01:36:48", "end": "01:36:53", "text": ">> because uh we lack a deeper empathy that"}, {"start": "01:36:51", "end": "01:36:56", "text": "is necessary to avoid uh"}, {"start": "01:36:53", "end": "01:36:59", "text": "self-destructive behaviors like our wars"}, {"start": "01:36:56", "end": "01:37:02", "text": "and and our everinccreasingly"}, {"start": "01:36:59", "end": "01:37:06", "text": "powerful weapons like nuclear weaponry."}, {"start": "01:37:02", "end": "01:37:09", "text": "Um so so he was told that you know only"}, {"start": "01:37:06", "end": "01:37:12", "text": "only the telepathic species"}, {"start": "01:37:09", "end": "01:37:17", "text": "have a chance to have a long legacy. Um"}, {"start": "01:37:12", "end": "01:37:19", "text": "so I think that we have been judged as"}, {"start": "01:37:17", "end": "01:37:20", "text": "uh"}, {"start": "01:37:19", "end": "01:37:22", "text": "as um"}, {"start": "01:37:20", "end": "01:37:23", "text": ">> primitive"}, {"start": "01:37:22", "end": "01:37:24", "text": ">> well not"}, {"start": "01:37:23", "end": "01:37:27", "text": ">> harmful"}, {"start": "01:37:24", "end": "01:37:27", "text": ">> like not not viable for for the long"}, {"start": "01:37:27", "end": "01:37:30", "text": "term."}, {"start": "01:37:27", "end": "01:37:32", "text": ">> I see. Yeah. Okay. So therefore, not"}, {"start": "01:37:30", "end": "01:37:35", "text": "worth an investment, worthy of"}, {"start": "01:37:32", "end": "01:37:39", "text": "replacement. I think homo sapiens will"}, {"start": "01:37:35", "end": "01:37:40", "text": "be replaced by this new hybrid species"}, {"start": "01:37:39", "end": "01:37:42", "text": "that the grays are creating. The grays"}, {"start": "01:37:40", "end": "01:37:44", "text": "are planning their own extinction. They"}, {"start": "01:37:42", "end": "01:37:47", "text": "know that they can't be a parasitic,"}, {"start": "01:37:44", "end": "01:37:52", "text": "bloodconsuming"}, {"start": "01:37:47", "end": "01:37:54", "text": "uh species, you know, forever. Um and"}, {"start": "01:37:52", "end": "01:37:56", "text": "and they can't just live underground"}, {"start": "01:37:54", "end": "01:37:58", "text": "forever. And they I think they're"}, {"start": "01:37:56", "end": "01:38:00", "text": "they're creating a species that can live"}, {"start": "01:37:58", "end": "01:38:03", "text": "on the surface biosphere, you know, be"}, {"start": "01:38:00", "end": "01:38:05", "text": "exposed to the sunlight, uh be exposed"}, {"start": "01:38:03", "end": "01:38:08", "text": "to the pathogens"}, {"start": "01:38:05", "end": "01:38:10", "text": "by becoming mostly human themselves. So,"}, {"start": "01:38:08", "end": "01:38:13", "text": "you know, how we're separated by the"}, {"start": "01:38:10", "end": "01:38:16", "text": "chimpanzees by only like 1 and a.5% of"}, {"start": "01:38:13", "end": "01:38:18", "text": "our of our DNA. Uh, you know,"}, {"start": "01:38:16", "end": "01:38:22", "text": "chimpanzees share 98 and a half% of the"}, {"start": "01:38:18", "end": "01:38:25", "text": "same DNA or maybe it's 97. I'm not sure"}, {"start": "01:38:22", "end": "01:38:27", "text": "exactly the number, but they're mostly"}, {"start": "01:38:25", "end": "01:38:30", "text": "human. So, it's just that that last"}, {"start": "01:38:27", "end": "01:38:31", "text": "little bit, the few percentage of DNA"}, {"start": "01:38:30", "end": "01:38:32", "text": "makes us what we are."}, {"start": "01:38:31", "end": "01:38:34", "text": ">> Makes all the difference,"}, {"start": "01:38:32", "end": "01:38:36", "text": ">> right? So, they're they're our genetic"}, {"start": "01:38:34", "end": "01:38:40", "text": "cousins as a result of that close"}, {"start": "01:38:36", "end": "01:38:42", "text": "association. Um whereas a banana only"}, {"start": "01:38:40", "end": "01:38:43", "text": "has 50% of our DNA. That's crazy."}, {"start": "01:38:42", "end": "01:38:45", "text": ">> It's pretty close."}, {"start": "01:38:43", "end": "01:38:46", "text": ">> It is."}, {"start": "01:38:45", "end": "01:38:48", "text": ">> I know a few bananas."}, {"start": "01:38:46", "end": "01:38:50", "text": ">> Yeah. I mean, have you proper thoughts"}, {"start": "01:38:48", "end": "01:38:52", "text": "about eating that banana? It's cannibal"}, {"start": "01:38:50", "end": "01:38:56", "text": "cannibalism. No, I'm just kidding. So,"}, {"start": "01:38:52", "end": "01:38:58", "text": "um, so the idea is that they're they're"}, {"start": "01:38:56", "end": "01:39:01", "text": "planning their own extinction by merging"}, {"start": "01:38:58", "end": "01:39:05", "text": "with us and when the last tall gray dies"}, {"start": "01:39:01", "end": "01:39:07", "text": "out, uh, you know, then that'll be it."}, {"start": "01:39:05", "end": "01:39:09", "text": "How do the how do the Nordics fit into"}, {"start": "01:39:07", "end": "01:39:12", "text": "this? Or not even just the Nordics, but"}, {"start": "01:39:09", "end": "01:39:13", "text": "how do the humanlooking hybrids? Because"}, {"start": "01:39:12", "end": "01:39:16", "text": "if you look at David Jacob's work which"}, {"start": "01:39:13", "end": "01:39:19", "text": "you cite in your book um you know David"}, {"start": "01:39:16", "end": "01:39:23", "text": "was a firm believer through his studies"}, {"start": "01:39:19", "end": "01:39:25", "text": "of hypnotic regression uh that there was"}, {"start": "01:39:23", "end": "01:39:27", "text": "a transitional"}, {"start": "01:39:25", "end": "01:39:29", "text": "there was multiple I think five"}, {"start": "01:39:27", "end": "01:39:31", "text": "transitional phases between the human"}, {"start": "01:39:29", "end": "01:39:33", "text": "and the hubid which is the human hybrid"}, {"start": "01:39:31", "end": "01:39:36", "text": "that looks identical. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:39:33", "end": "01:39:39", "text": ">> And you know as it nears the hub it gets"}, {"start": "01:39:36", "end": "01:39:41", "text": "more and more looks more and more and"}, {"start": "01:39:39", "end": "01:39:42", "text": "starts acting more and more like a"}, {"start": "01:39:41", "end": "01:39:46", "text": "human. But at first you have these"}, {"start": "01:39:42", "end": "01:39:49", "text": "eggheheaded, you know, genderless like"}, {"start": "01:39:46", "end": "01:39:54", "text": "weird bizarre and there's this whole"}, {"start": "01:39:49", "end": "01:39:58", "text": "kind of crude and and and homely version"}, {"start": "01:39:54", "end": "01:40:00", "text": "of a human between these two."}, {"start": "01:39:58", "end": "01:40:02", "text": "What's going on there? Why are they"}, {"start": "01:40:00", "end": "01:40:04", "text": "trying to What's your best guess as why"}, {"start": "01:40:02", "end": "01:40:07", "text": "they're trying to look like us? Well,"}, {"start": "01:40:04", "end": "01:40:10", "text": "what if what if the the grays uh were"}, {"start": "01:40:07", "end": "01:40:12", "text": "anticipating the loss of their world as"}, {"start": "01:40:10", "end": "01:40:15", "text": "as their magnetic field got weaker and"}, {"start": "01:40:12", "end": "01:40:18", "text": "weaker and they knew about the the the"}, {"start": "01:40:15", "end": "01:40:21", "text": "problem with the soul bleed off uh and"}, {"start": "01:40:18", "end": "01:40:23", "text": "migration and what if they were"}, {"start": "01:40:21", "end": "01:40:25", "text": "preparing for that over the long term?"}, {"start": "01:40:23", "end": "01:40:29", "text": "So they they they come to Earth, they"}, {"start": "01:40:25", "end": "01:40:30", "text": "find Homo erectus and start to uh modify"}, {"start": "01:40:29", "end": "01:40:32", "text": "it."}, {"start": "01:40:30", "end": "01:40:35", "text": ">> Sure. uh what if they were trying to"}, {"start": "01:40:32", "end": "01:40:39", "text": "create a platform that would be uh uh"}, {"start": "01:40:35", "end": "01:40:41", "text": "more suitable for hybridization with so"}, {"start": "01:40:39", "end": "01:40:44", "text": "it was a long game. So what if they"}, {"start": "01:40:41", "end": "01:40:48", "text": "started to you know homo erectus and"}, {"start": "01:40:44", "end": "01:40:50", "text": "then it becomes you know a newer species"}, {"start": "01:40:48", "end": "01:40:55", "text": "and until they get to sapiens. So now"}, {"start": "01:40:50", "end": "01:40:58", "text": "homo sapiens is finally a uh a platform"}, {"start": "01:40:55", "end": "01:41:02", "text": "upon which they can do the final change"}, {"start": "01:40:58", "end": "01:41:06", "text": "and blend with us, merge, converge"}, {"start": "01:41:02", "end": "01:41:10", "text": "with us and and then uh homo sapiens"}, {"start": "01:41:06", "end": "01:41:12", "text": "um you know already our our our birth"}, {"start": "01:41:10", "end": "01:41:15", "text": "rates are declining all over the world."}, {"start": "01:41:12", "end": "01:41:17", "text": "Um you know I I think our population"}, {"start": "01:41:15", "end": "01:41:21", "text": "will contract but at some point we are"}, {"start": "01:41:17", "end": "01:41:23", "text": "going to be swept aside. Um"}, {"start": "01:41:21", "end": "01:41:25", "text": "I it's just just a theory."}, {"start": "01:41:23", "end": "01:41:27", "text": ">> Yeah. I mean according to many"}, {"start": "01:41:25", "end": "01:41:29", "text": "experiencers and abductees it seems to"}, {"start": "01:41:27", "end": "01:41:31", "text": "be the case as well. Like there are a"}, {"start": "01:41:29", "end": "01:41:33", "text": "lot of people who go on board these"}, {"start": "01:41:31", "end": "01:41:34", "text": "craft and who are you know allegedly"}, {"start": "01:41:33", "end": "01:41:37", "text": "apparently talking to these entities who"}, {"start": "01:41:34", "end": "01:41:40", "text": "tell them things like you are part of a"}, {"start": "01:41:37", "end": "01:41:43", "text": "chosen group. Your time will come soon."}, {"start": "01:41:40", "end": "01:41:45", "text": "Um you're doing good work and you'll be"}, {"start": "01:41:43", "end": "01:41:47", "text": "rewarded when this all happens. like all"}, {"start": "01:41:45", "end": "01:41:50", "text": "of this sort of foreshadowing and this"}, {"start": "01:41:47", "end": "01:41:51", "text": ">> apocalyptic talk and imagery that's sent"}, {"start": "01:41:50", "end": "01:41:53", "text": "to"}, {"start": "01:41:51", "end": "01:41:56", "text": ">> um were you ever given I know you talk"}, {"start": "01:41:53", "end": "01:41:57", "text": "about it a little bit in the book but at"}, {"start": "01:41:56", "end": "01:41:59", "text": "one point"}, {"start": "01:41:57", "end": "01:42:02", "text": ">> you were told I think by one of the tall"}, {"start": "01:41:59", "end": "01:42:05", "text": "grays to put away the nukes like we have"}, {"start": "01:42:02", "end": "01:42:08", "text": "to put away the nukes yeah there was a"}, {"start": "01:42:05", "end": "01:42:10", "text": "tall gray um and we were walking side by"}, {"start": "01:42:08", "end": "01:42:14", "text": "side I was completely confused and out"}, {"start": "01:42:10", "end": "01:42:16", "text": "of it um and I actually argued with He"}, {"start": "01:42:14", "end": "01:42:19", "text": "he said, \"You have to get rid of your"}, {"start": "01:42:16", "end": "01:42:20", "text": "nuclear weapons.\" And I don't I didn't"}, {"start": "01:42:19", "end": "01:42:24", "text": "know the context why he would say that"}, {"start": "01:42:20", "end": "01:42:26", "text": "to me. And I was only conscious for 25"}, {"start": "01:42:24", "end": "01:42:30", "text": "seconds. But I argued with him. I said,"}, {"start": "01:42:26", "end": "01:42:33", "text": "\"We'd be giving up our strategic uh uh"}, {"start": "01:42:30", "end": "01:42:35", "text": "you know, our mutual deterrent.\""}, {"start": "01:42:33", "end": "01:42:38", "text": ">> Um you know, so we we we can't just give"}, {"start": "01:42:35", "end": "01:42:41", "text": "it up, you know, at least not, you know,"}, {"start": "01:42:38", "end": "01:42:45", "text": "unilaterally. We can't do that. But as a"}, {"start": "01:42:41", "end": "01:42:48", "text": "species um we might have a chance to do"}, {"start": "01:42:45", "end": "01:42:52", "text": "that actually once"}, {"start": "01:42:48", "end": "01:42:54", "text": "um once AI and robotics are able to"}, {"start": "01:42:52", "end": "01:42:56", "text": "create enough abundance for everybody"}, {"start": "01:42:54", "end": "01:42:58", "text": "that that nations don't have to compete"}, {"start": "01:42:56", "end": "01:43:00", "text": "for resources against each other. We"}, {"start": "01:42:58", "end": "01:43:02", "text": "might have an opportunity to get rid of"}, {"start": "01:43:00", "end": "01:43:06", "text": "our uh mutual deterrence at that point."}, {"start": "01:43:02", "end": "01:43:09", "text": "Um, so long as uh we we have like really"}, {"start": "01:43:06", "end": "01:43:11", "text": "good cyber security and and we can keep"}, {"start": "01:43:09", "end": "01:43:16", "text": "AIS from being corrupted by by foreign"}, {"start": "01:43:11", "end": "01:43:17", "text": "nations. Um, but uh but I don't think"}, {"start": "01:43:16", "end": "01:43:20", "text": "they have faith in us and I think"}, {"start": "01:43:17", "end": "01:43:22", "text": "they're phasing us out and I think it's"}, {"start": "01:43:20", "end": "01:43:23", "text": "soon. But why?"}, {"start": "01:43:22", "end": "01:43:25", "text": ">> I don't I don't want to be a doomsayer."}, {"start": "01:43:23", "end": "01:43:27", "text": "I'm not I'm not saying the end is near."}, {"start": "01:43:25", "end": "01:43:30", "text": "I'm not I'm not on a street corner with"}, {"start": "01:43:27", "end": "01:43:33", "text": "a sign. No, but why? What I'm asking is"}, {"start": "01:43:30", "end": "01:43:36", "text": "like clearly they have the ability to"}, {"start": "01:43:33", "end": "01:43:39", "text": "intervene and and stop us from doing"}, {"start": "01:43:36", "end": "01:43:41", "text": "whatever. If they can control you and"}, {"start": "01:43:39", "end": "01:43:43", "text": "do, you know, make you do horrible"}, {"start": "01:43:41", "end": "01:43:45", "text": "things or do unspeakable things to you"}, {"start": "01:43:43", "end": "01:43:47", "text": "without your consent, right,"}, {"start": "01:43:45", "end": "01:43:50", "text": ">> then they can make you do anything. And"}, {"start": "01:43:47", "end": "01:43:51", "text": "and so the argument always stands, why"}, {"start": "01:43:50", "end": "01:43:51", "text": "wouldn't they just intervene? Why"}, {"start": "01:43:51", "end": "01:43:53", "text": "wouldn't they just shut?"}, {"start": "01:43:51", "end": "01:43:56", "text": ">> Because I think they're desperate. Now,"}, {"start": "01:43:53", "end": "01:43:59", "text": "now you you brought up the Nordics. Um"}, {"start": "01:43:56", "end": "01:44:02", "text": "there's there's a legend that said that"}, {"start": "01:43:59", "end": "01:44:02", "text": "uh Eisenhower was offered two deals,"}, {"start": "01:44:02", "end": "01:44:05", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "01:44:02", "end": "01:44:08", "text": ">> Uh one from the grays that said, you"}, {"start": "01:44:05", "end": "01:44:12", "text": "know, in exchange for uh permission to"}, {"start": "01:44:08", "end": "01:44:16", "text": ">> genetic abduct humans and cattle uh from"}, {"start": "01:44:12", "end": "01:44:17", "text": "a set list, you know, uh which I don't"}, {"start": "01:44:16", "end": "01:44:20", "text": "think they stuck to that list at all."}, {"start": "01:44:17", "end": "01:44:22", "text": "But in exchange for the the the right to"}, {"start": "01:44:20", "end": "01:44:25", "text": "abduct human and cattle within the"}, {"start": "01:44:22", "end": "01:44:26", "text": "United States, uh we will provide the"}, {"start": "01:44:25", "end": "01:44:30", "text": "technology"}, {"start": "01:44:26", "end": "01:44:33", "text": ">> technology to the military. Um so there"}, {"start": "01:44:30", "end": "01:44:36", "text": "was that deal and then there's there's a"}, {"start": "01:44:33", "end": "01:44:38", "text": "story about how the Nordics were"}, {"start": "01:44:36", "end": "01:44:40", "text": "offering to we're going to we'll get rid"}, {"start": "01:44:38", "end": "01:44:42", "text": "of the grays for you. You know, they're"}, {"start": "01:44:40", "end": "01:44:45", "text": "no good. Um you know, they're they're"}, {"start": "01:44:42", "end": "01:44:47", "text": "not good for you people. Uh we but uh"}, {"start": "01:44:45", "end": "01:44:51", "text": "and and we can we can help you achieve"}, {"start": "01:44:47", "end": "01:44:53", "text": "world peace but uh but it would come"}, {"start": "01:44:51", "end": "01:44:54", "text": "with like less freedom."}, {"start": "01:44:53", "end": "01:44:56", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:44:54", "end": "01:44:58", "text": ">> Yeah. Put away the right. I I don't know"}, {"start": "01:44:56", "end": "01:45:00", "text": "much about that story. I didn't"}, {"start": "01:44:58", "end": "01:45:02", "text": ">> Mhm. And we were very trigger happy when"}, {"start": "01:45:00", "end": "01:45:04", "text": "and during that time I mean"}, {"start": "01:45:02", "end": "01:45:08", "text": ">> if if ever there was a time"}, {"start": "01:45:04", "end": "01:45:11", "text": ">> where we wouldn't have given up nukes,"}, {"start": "01:45:08", "end": "01:45:12", "text": ">> it was the Cold War. Like I mean worst"}, {"start": "01:45:11", "end": "01:45:14", "text": "time"}, {"start": "01:45:12", "end": "01:45:15", "text": ">> to offer up a deal like that if you're"}, {"start": "01:45:14", "end": "01:45:17", "text": "the Nordics by the way, right?"}, {"start": "01:45:15", "end": "01:45:19", "text": ">> Like like wait a wait a few decades"}, {"start": "01:45:17", "end": "01:45:23", "text": "because at that point you know we had"}, {"start": "01:45:19", "end": "01:45:26", "text": "just discovered the uh the atomic bomb"}, {"start": "01:45:23", "end": "01:45:28", "text": "and we had just discovered that other"}, {"start": "01:45:26", "end": "01:45:30", "text": "countries are also making the atomic"}, {"start": "01:45:28", "end": "01:45:32", "text": "bomb. Not a time to put down the nukes."}, {"start": "01:45:30", "end": "01:45:34", "text": ">> What if the Nordics have continued to"}, {"start": "01:45:32", "end": "01:45:37", "text": "warn us about the grays? We we saw that"}, {"start": "01:45:34", "end": "01:45:37", "text": "uh that crop circle the crabwood crop"}, {"start": "01:45:37", "end": "01:45:38", "text": "circle."}, {"start": "01:45:37", "end": "01:45:41", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:45:38", "end": "01:45:43", "text": ">> In 2002. Yeah, beware of the Zetas,"}, {"start": "01:45:41", "end": "01:45:45", "text": ">> right? So, they had a an image and you"}, {"start": "01:45:43", "end": "01:45:46", "text": "could put this in in post"}, {"start": "01:45:45", "end": "01:45:50", "text": "post-production, but they it was an"}, {"start": "01:45:46", "end": "01:45:53", "text": "image like a half te image of a of a a"}, {"start": "01:45:50", "end": "01:45:56", "text": "tall gray uh face and and there was like"}, {"start": "01:45:53", "end": "01:45:57", "text": "this circular uh binary message"}, {"start": "01:45:56", "end": "01:45:59", "text": ">> uh"}, {"start": "01:45:57", "end": "01:46:01", "text": ">> and the and the Orion star system,"}, {"start": "01:45:59", "end": "01:46:04", "text": ">> right? And and they were warning us, you"}, {"start": "01:46:01", "end": "01:46:04", "text": "know, uh you know, basically calling"}, {"start": "01:46:04", "end": "01:46:07", "text": "them liars."}, {"start": "01:46:04", "end": "01:46:10", "text": ">> Beware beware of bears of false truth,"}, {"start": "01:46:07", "end": "01:46:12", "text": ">> right? Or false gifts. false gifts. Um"}, {"start": "01:46:10", "end": "01:46:13", "text": "and then um"}, {"start": "01:46:12", "end": "01:46:15", "text": ">> yeah, don't trust the Zetas or"}, {"start": "01:46:13", "end": "01:46:17", "text": "something. Beware of the Zetas or"}, {"start": "01:46:15", "end": "01:46:19", "text": ">> Yeah, I but you know, much pain but"}, {"start": "01:46:17", "end": "01:46:21", "text": "still time. I mean, that was part of it."}, {"start": "01:46:19", "end": "01:46:26", "text": ">> Um so it it was a warning saying it's"}, {"start": "01:46:21", "end": "01:46:30", "text": "not too late. Uh but maybe we've just"}, {"start": "01:46:26", "end": "01:46:32", "text": "ignored it too long. But but now I've"}, {"start": "01:46:30", "end": "01:46:34", "text": "been hearing now not ever since I"}, {"start": "01:46:32", "end": "01:46:37", "text": "reported my case to MUON, I've I've kind"}, {"start": "01:46:34", "end": "01:46:39", "text": "of cozied up with uh the Illinois MUON"}, {"start": "01:46:37", "end": "01:46:41", "text": "people and I've attended some of their"}, {"start": "01:46:39", "end": "01:46:45", "text": "meetings and I've even been to the"}, {"start": "01:46:41", "end": "01:46:47", "text": "symposium uh last year and I I plan to"}, {"start": "01:46:45", "end": "01:46:50", "text": "go this year. But I heard how the"}, {"start": "01:46:47", "end": "01:46:52", "text": "military is now actively shooting down"}, {"start": "01:46:50", "end": "01:46:55", "text": "little scout crafts."}, {"start": "01:46:52", "end": "01:46:58", "text": "um that that fly over our airspace using"}, {"start": "01:46:55", "end": "01:47:02", "text": "uh microwave high-owered microwaves. Uh"}, {"start": "01:46:58", "end": "01:47:03", "text": "they discovered in the ' 40s and it it's"}, {"start": "01:47:02", "end": "01:47:06", "text": "said that the Roswell crash may have"}, {"start": "01:47:03", "end": "01:47:09", "text": "been caused when two discs passed too"}, {"start": "01:47:06", "end": "01:47:13", "text": "close to a high-powered radar station."}, {"start": "01:47:09", "end": "01:47:15", "text": "And um the thought is that the these"}, {"start": "01:47:13", "end": "01:47:18", "text": "high-powered microwaves from the radar"}, {"start": "01:47:15", "end": "01:47:21", "text": "um interrupt the flight envelope, the"}, {"start": "01:47:18", "end": "01:47:23", "text": "field propulsion around their craft and"}, {"start": "01:47:21", "end": "01:47:26", "text": "um it would veer off course and and"}, {"start": "01:47:23", "end": "01:47:29", "text": "crash into something um if that's true."}, {"start": "01:47:26", "end": "01:47:31", "text": ">> Sure. And I don't know, uh I'm not I'm"}, {"start": "01:47:29", "end": "01:47:34", "text": "not an insider, but if that's true, then"}, {"start": "01:47:31", "end": "01:47:38", "text": "um they may have since developed uh more"}, {"start": "01:47:34", "end": "01:47:41", "text": "directed energy weapons uh designed to"}, {"start": "01:47:38", "end": "01:47:45", "text": "uh directly uh pull down these these"}, {"start": "01:47:41", "end": "01:47:47", "text": "smaller scout craft uh and and fill"}, {"start": "01:47:45", "end": "01:47:48", "text": "their coffers, you know, their secret"}, {"start": "01:47:47", "end": "01:47:49", "text": "bases, their S4s."}, {"start": "01:47:48", "end": "01:47:51", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "01:47:49", "end": "01:47:52", "text": ">> You know, I'm sure that's not the only"}, {"start": "01:47:51", "end": "01:47:54", "text": "base like that."}, {"start": "01:47:52", "end": "01:47:56", "text": ">> No, definitely not. you know, friend of"}, {"start": "01:47:54", "end": "01:47:57", "text": "ours here, UAP Gerb. He's pretty much on"}, {"start": "01:47:56", "end": "01:48:00", "text": "top of anything and everything"}, {"start": "01:47:57", "end": "01:48:04", "text": "regarding, you know, dums across the"}, {"start": "01:48:00", "end": "01:48:06", "text": "country. Um, so let's talk about dums"}, {"start": "01:48:04", "end": "01:48:08", "text": "for a second. Deep underground military"}, {"start": "01:48:06", "end": "01:48:11", "text": "bases, but not only military, not only"}, {"start": "01:48:08", "end": "01:48:13", "text": "human military, but what seems to be,"}, {"start": "01:48:11", "end": "01:48:15", "text": "you know, um, according to one of the"}, {"start": "01:48:13", "end": "01:48:18", "text": "messages you've received,"}, {"start": "01:48:15", "end": "01:48:20", "text": ">> Yeah. that there are these cave systems,"}, {"start": "01:48:18", "end": "01:48:24", "text": "that there are these cavernous systems"}, {"start": "01:48:20", "end": "01:48:28", "text": "on Earth filled with life, like that's"}, {"start": "01:48:24", "end": "01:48:32", "text": "where they live. I became frustrated. Uh"}, {"start": "01:48:28", "end": "01:48:33", "text": "we hadn't yet uh addressed uh you know"}, {"start": "01:48:32", "end": "01:48:38", "text": "the offspring that they were creating"}, {"start": "01:48:33", "end": "01:48:43", "text": "from my from my genes. Um but uh I was I"}, {"start": "01:48:38", "end": "01:48:46", "text": "was shown um images on a wall of of like"}, {"start": "01:48:43", "end": "01:48:48", "text": "probably 20 or more of my offspring of"}, {"start": "01:48:46", "end": "01:48:52", "text": "various ages from you know infancy to"}, {"start": "01:48:48", "end": "01:48:55", "text": "adulthood and uh and I was also shown a"}, {"start": "01:48:52", "end": "01:48:57", "text": "small baby during an encounter um"}, {"start": "01:48:55", "end": "01:49:00", "text": "crawling on a metal table and they said"}, {"start": "01:48:57", "end": "01:49:02", "text": "he's yours but he has a genetic problem"}, {"start": "01:49:00", "end": "01:49:03", "text": "and we need you know you're here to"}, {"start": "01:49:02", "end": "01:49:07", "text": "provide us the tissues that we need to"}, {"start": "01:49:03", "end": "01:49:11", "text": "correct the problem. Um, so anyway,"}, {"start": "01:49:07", "end": "01:49:13", "text": "I was upset with them uh because the the"}, {"start": "01:49:11", "end": "01:49:16", "text": "baby that they showed me I suspected was"}, {"start": "01:49:13", "end": "01:49:20", "text": "was a stolen pregnancy uh from a"}, {"start": "01:49:16", "end": "01:49:23", "text": "relationship I had had uh back in 22"}, {"start": "01:49:20", "end": "01:49:25", "text": "and uh and I was I was rather emotional."}, {"start": "01:49:23", "end": "01:49:26", "text": ">> What do you mean by a stolen pregnancy?"}, {"start": "01:49:25", "end": "01:49:28", "text": "Can you clarify?"}, {"start": "01:49:26", "end": "01:49:32", "text": ">> I I had a girlfriend that uh we"}, {"start": "01:49:28", "end": "01:49:35", "text": "conceived a child. She lost the"}, {"start": "01:49:32", "end": "01:49:36", "text": "pregnancy in her ninth or tth week. The"}, {"start": "01:49:35", "end": "01:49:40", "text": "child would have been born on or around"}, {"start": "01:49:36", "end": "01:49:43", "text": "my birthday in January of 2023."}, {"start": "01:49:40", "end": "01:49:43", "text": "And um and we had broken up since then."}, {"start": "01:49:43", "end": "01:49:45", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "01:49:43", "end": "01:49:46", "text": ">> you believe the child that you were"}, {"start": "01:49:45", "end": "01:49:50", "text": "shown to be that baby?"}, {"start": "01:49:46", "end": "01:49:54", "text": ">> The only reason why I suspect it, I"}, {"start": "01:49:50", "end": "01:49:57", "text": "don't know it, is that uh I was shown"}, {"start": "01:49:54", "end": "01:50:00", "text": "the baby in June of 2023 and it was 6 or"}, {"start": "01:49:57", "end": "01:50:03", "text": "7 months old. So, if they had taken the"}, {"start": "01:50:00", "end": "01:50:06", "text": "child from her womb and if they had"}, {"start": "01:50:03", "end": "01:50:11", "text": "artificially just dated it and it was"}, {"start": "01:50:06", "end": "01:50:14", "text": "born on or around January of 23, then it"}, {"start": "01:50:11", "end": "01:50:14", "text": "was the right age to have been hers and"}, {"start": "01:50:14", "end": "01:50:16", "text": "mine."}, {"start": "01:50:14", "end": "01:50:17", "text": ">> Did you have did you know the sex of the"}, {"start": "01:50:16", "end": "01:50:18", "text": "baby?"}, {"start": "01:50:17", "end": "01:50:19", "text": ">> Well, it was mine. He told me it was"}, {"start": "01:50:18", "end": "01:50:20", "text": "mine."}, {"start": "01:50:19", "end": "01:50:22", "text": ">> But Oh, it was a boy"}, {"start": "01:50:20", "end": "01:50:24", "text": ">> uh while while being pregnant."}, {"start": "01:50:22", "end": "01:50:26", "text": ">> Oh, no, no, no, it was it was only 9 or"}, {"start": "01:50:24", "end": "01:50:28", "text": "10 weeks. So, we didn't we didn't"}, {"start": "01:50:26", "end": "01:50:30", "text": "determine the gender. Oh, is it 12 weeks"}, {"start": "01:50:28", "end": "01:50:33", "text": "for you to determine or is it 9 weeks?"}, {"start": "01:50:30", "end": "01:50:35", "text": ">> I but I we we didn't we didn't do that."}, {"start": "01:50:33", "end": "01:50:37", "text": ">> You know, uh but when when she"}, {"start": "01:50:35", "end": "01:50:42", "text": "miscarried the child,"}, {"start": "01:50:37", "end": "01:50:45", "text": ">> um the fluid fil sack and the um the"}, {"start": "01:50:42", "end": "01:50:46", "text": "embryo wasn't in the tissues that were"}, {"start": "01:50:45", "end": "01:50:49", "text": "passed."}, {"start": "01:50:46", "end": "01:50:50", "text": ">> Uh visiting the obstitrician, they"}, {"start": "01:50:49", "end": "01:50:52", "text": "determined there was nothing left in the"}, {"start": "01:50:50", "end": "01:50:55", "text": "uterus. She was healthy, but they had"}, {"start": "01:50:52", "end": "01:50:57", "text": "determined that she was pregnant. Um, so"}, {"start": "01:50:55", "end": "01:50:59", "text": "it it's a suspicion. It's it's it's"}, {"start": "01:50:57", "end": "01:51:01", "text": ">> ghost pregnancy type deal."}, {"start": "01:50:59", "end": "01:51:05", "text": ">> Yeah. Uh, the same thing happened to my"}, {"start": "01:51:01", "end": "01:51:08", "text": "mother. Um, she wasn't presented with a"}, {"start": "01:51:05", "end": "01:51:11", "text": "a strange child, but uh, she had a"}, {"start": "01:51:08", "end": "01:51:14", "text": "miscarriage before I was conceived in"}, {"start": "01:51:11", "end": "01:51:17", "text": "early 1968. She had a miscarriage. Um,"}, {"start": "01:51:14", "end": "01:51:21", "text": "and again, the the fetus was missing"}, {"start": "01:51:17", "end": "01:51:23", "text": "from that. So maybe that was related"}, {"start": "01:51:21", "end": "01:51:24", "text": "because she was that was a period of"}, {"start": "01:51:23", "end": "01:51:25", "text": "time when she"}, {"start": "01:51:24", "end": "01:51:30", "text": ">> sure"}, {"start": "01:51:25", "end": "01:51:32", "text": ">> was likely being visited. So um it again"}, {"start": "01:51:30", "end": "01:51:34", "text": "I I don't know this uh"}, {"start": "01:51:32", "end": "01:51:34", "text": ">> Yeah. No, you only got what you"}, {"start": "01:51:34", "end": "01:51:36", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:51:34", "end": "01:51:36", "text": ">> what you remember."}, {"start": "01:51:36", "end": "01:51:39", "text": ">> Yeah. So um"}, {"start": "01:51:36", "end": "01:51:43", "text": ">> so this baby's on on this medical table."}, {"start": "01:51:39", "end": "01:51:44", "text": ">> Yeah. And uh and he said he's yours, but"}, {"start": "01:51:43", "end": "01:51:46", "text": "he has a genetic problem and you're here"}, {"start": "01:51:44", "end": "01:51:49", "text": "to give us the tissues we need to"}, {"start": "01:51:46", "end": "01:51:52", "text": "correct it. Um, and then I was only"}, {"start": "01:51:49", "end": "01:51:54", "text": "conscious for"}, {"start": "01:51:52", "end": "01:51:57", "text": "35 seconds some. I mean, just very short"}, {"start": "01:51:54", "end": "01:51:59", "text": "period of time. But I was I I woke up in"}, {"start": "01:51:57", "end": "01:52:02", "text": "a standing position and there was this"}, {"start": "01:51:59", "end": "01:52:04", "text": "very tall man. I saw him as a man, but"}, {"start": "01:52:02", "end": "01:52:06", "text": "later on I realized I was a tall gray,"}, {"start": "01:52:04", "end": "01:52:09", "text": "but he was like 7 and 1/2 ft tall. And"}, {"start": "01:52:06", "end": "01:52:11", "text": "there there's very few people, you know,"}, {"start": "01:52:09", "end": "01:52:16", "text": "outside of professional sports that are"}, {"start": "01:52:11", "end": "01:52:20", "text": "that tall. Um but uh I thought he was a"}, {"start": "01:52:16", "end": "01:52:22", "text": "air traffic control uh personnel person."}, {"start": "01:52:20", "end": "01:52:26", "text": "Uh and we were in a round room"}, {"start": "01:52:22", "end": "01:52:29", "text": "circumferenced by uh vertically uh short"}, {"start": "01:52:26", "end": "01:52:32", "text": "windows that were very long uh all all"}, {"start": "01:52:29", "end": "01:52:33", "text": "around us and I would say the room was"}, {"start": "01:52:32", "end": "01:52:34", "text": "about 50 to 60 feet in diameter."}, {"start": "01:52:33", "end": "01:52:36", "text": ">> Was a round room."}, {"start": "01:52:34", "end": "01:52:38", "text": ">> A round room. I thought it was an air"}, {"start": "01:52:36", "end": "01:52:40", "text": "traffic control tower. I mean, that was"}, {"start": "01:52:38", "end": "01:52:44", "text": "the entrancement made me think it was"}, {"start": "01:52:40", "end": "01:52:45", "text": "something familiar, but it was could"}, {"start": "01:52:44", "end": "01:52:48", "text": "have been a craft. It could have been a"}, {"start": "01:52:45", "end": "01:52:49", "text": "UFO. Uh because it didn't look like"}, {"start": "01:52:48", "end": "01:52:52", "text": "normally like if I'm in one of their"}, {"start": "01:52:49", "end": "01:52:55", "text": "facilities, I'm in a a square room with"}, {"start": "01:52:52", "end": "01:52:58", "text": "gray walls. So, um this wasn't like"}, {"start": "01:52:55", "end": "01:53:01", "text": "that. This this was very much it could"}, {"start": "01:52:58", "end": "01:53:02", "text": "have been a craft, you know, a a large"}, {"start": "01:53:01", "end": "01:53:05", "text": "UFO."}, {"start": "01:53:02", "end": "01:53:06", "text": ">> And then what did they show you"}, {"start": "01:53:05", "end": "01:53:08", "text": ">> after that? Was there"}, {"start": "01:53:06", "end": "01:53:10", "text": ">> they just showed me the child? And then"}, {"start": "01:53:08", "end": "01:53:12", "text": "and then I went unconscious. But um so"}, {"start": "01:53:10", "end": "01:53:15", "text": "Oh, you're talking about later. So I"}, {"start": "01:53:12", "end": "01:53:17", "text": "asked them, \"Where where are my my"}, {"start": "01:53:15", "end": "01:53:20", "text": "children, my offspring? Where are they"}, {"start": "01:53:17", "end": "01:53:22", "text": "being kept? Where do you keep them?\" And"}, {"start": "01:53:20", "end": "01:53:24", "text": "they showed me a gray wall"}, {"start": "01:53:22", "end": "01:53:26", "text": ">> and the wall became a view screen. It"}, {"start": "01:53:24", "end": "01:53:28", "text": "was just a gray metallic Peter gray"}, {"start": "01:53:26", "end": "01:53:29", "text": "wall. Everything I That's why I think"}, {"start": "01:53:28", "end": "01:53:31", "text": "that they're they're monochromatic with"}, {"start": "01:53:29", "end": "01:53:33", "text": "their vision. They don't they don't have"}, {"start": "01:53:31", "end": "01:53:35", "text": "any colors. The only colors I've seen"}, {"start": "01:53:33", "end": "01:53:37", "text": "are gray, white, and black in any of"}, {"start": "01:53:35", "end": "01:53:41", "text": "their facilities."}, {"start": "01:53:37", "end": "01:53:44", "text": "So, um, so this became a screen and"}, {"start": "01:53:41", "end": "01:53:47", "text": "there was a map and it and it showed the"}, {"start": "01:53:44", "end": "01:53:49", "text": "the United States, the 48 contiguous"}, {"start": "01:53:47", "end": "01:53:51", "text": "states with the state division lines"}, {"start": "01:53:49", "end": "01:53:53", "text": "drawn in. I found that very surprising,"}, {"start": "01:53:51", "end": "01:53:56", "text": "but maybe that was for my benefit. Um,"}, {"start": "01:53:53", "end": "01:53:59", "text": "and then they zoomed in on Illinois and"}, {"start": "01:53:56", "end": "01:54:01", "text": "surrounding areas, and I could see under"}, {"start": "01:53:59", "end": "01:54:04", "text": "the surface of this map. Now, it was a"}, {"start": "01:54:01", "end": "01:54:08", "text": "monochromatic map. It was very gray, you"}, {"start": "01:54:04", "end": "01:54:11", "text": "know, uh, and it was like line art and,"}, {"start": "01:54:08", "end": "01:54:13", "text": "um, but it was 3D. So, I saw caverns"}, {"start": "01:54:11", "end": "01:54:16", "text": "under eastern Illinois. Um, at the"}, {"start": "01:54:13", "end": "01:54:19", "text": "northern end, they were about even with"}, {"start": "01:54:16", "end": "01:54:21", "text": "the bottom tip of Lake Michigan, and at"}, {"start": "01:54:19", "end": "01:54:24", "text": "the southern end, they were as far south"}, {"start": "01:54:21", "end": "01:54:27", "text": "as uh, Peoria, Illinois. And I've mapped"}, {"start": "01:54:24", "end": "01:54:32", "text": "out on my uh book website um the"}, {"start": "01:54:27", "end": "01:54:36", "text": "counties that are over top these areas."}, {"start": "01:54:32", "end": "01:54:38", "text": "And um I estimate based on the scale"}, {"start": "01:54:36", "end": "01:54:41", "text": "that the caverns were uh there. So there"}, {"start": "01:54:38", "end": "01:54:42", "text": "was three caverns. There was two"}, {"start": "01:54:41", "end": "01:54:45", "text": "parallel to one another at the same"}, {"start": "01:54:42", "end": "01:54:48", "text": "depth and one between them deeper down."}, {"start": "01:54:45", "end": "01:54:51", "text": "And so the two top caverns were about a"}, {"start": "01:54:48", "end": "01:54:53", "text": "third of a mile underground."}, {"start": "01:54:51", "end": "01:54:56", "text": "um which with the geothermal gradient"}, {"start": "01:54:53", "end": "01:54:58", "text": "would probably put it about 75 80°"}, {"start": "01:54:56", "end": "01:55:02", "text": "Fahrenheit comfortable for human"}, {"start": "01:54:58", "end": "01:55:05", "text": "habitation and then below that uh I'd"}, {"start": "01:55:02", "end": "01:55:07", "text": "say close to half a mile underground. So"}, {"start": "01:55:05", "end": "01:55:09", "text": "you had the the three and they almost"}, {"start": "01:55:07", "end": "01:55:13", "text": "looked like bananas because they they"}, {"start": "01:55:09", "end": "01:55:16", "text": "looked like rounded um triangles the way"}, {"start": "01:55:13", "end": "01:55:19", "text": "that they were constructed and at the"}, {"start": "01:55:16", "end": "01:55:21", "text": "southern ends they sloped downward"}, {"start": "01:55:19", "end": "01:55:23", "text": "and and I was thinking about that. I'm"}, {"start": "01:55:21", "end": "01:55:26", "text": "like well that kind of makes sense cuz"}, {"start": "01:55:23", "end": "01:55:28", "text": "you could have groundwater runoff"}, {"start": "01:55:26", "end": "01:55:30", "text": "uh you know within the caverns with the"}, {"start": "01:55:28", "end": "01:55:34", "text": "sloping downward and also heavier gases"}, {"start": "01:55:30", "end": "01:55:36", "text": "like CO2 would sink down to that. So you"}, {"start": "01:55:34", "end": "01:55:39", "text": "have better air flow uh circulation"}, {"start": "01:55:36", "end": "01:55:43", "text": "within the caverns. Um I I fed the"}, {"start": "01:55:39", "end": "01:55:46", "text": "design of of the the caverns into um"}, {"start": "01:55:43", "end": "01:55:48", "text": "chatpt and it did a forensic analysis"}, {"start": "01:55:46", "end": "01:55:49", "text": "and it it told me that's actually a good"}, {"start": "01:55:48", "end": "01:55:51", "text": "design"}, {"start": "01:55:49", "end": "01:55:54", "text": ">> uh for caverns. And then I said, \"Okay,"}, {"start": "01:55:51", "end": "01:55:56", "text": "well is there anything in the geological"}, {"start": "01:55:54", "end": "01:55:59", "text": "record that that would prove that"}, {"start": "01:55:56", "end": "01:56:00", "text": "they're not there?\" And um it didn't"}, {"start": "01:55:59", "end": "01:56:02", "text": "find anything. It said, \"Well, there's"}, {"start": "01:56:00", "end": "01:56:05", "text": "some there's some oil production south"}, {"start": "01:56:02", "end": "01:56:08", "text": "of there uh in further down south and"}, {"start": "01:56:05", "end": "01:56:12", "text": "southern Illinois. Uh but there's"}, {"start": "01:56:08", "end": "01:56:15", "text": "there's no known caverns, but the uh the"}, {"start": "01:56:12", "end": "01:56:16", "text": "type of bedrock in that area is ideal"}, {"start": "01:56:15", "end": "01:56:19", "text": "for caverns."}, {"start": "01:56:16", "end": "01:56:20", "text": ">> It's said that it's primarily doone,"}, {"start": "01:56:19", "end": "01:56:21", "text": "which is uh"}, {"start": "01:56:20", "end": "01:56:24", "text": ">> and dolomite."}, {"start": "01:56:21", "end": "01:56:27", "text": ">> It's it's it's a limestone that's high"}, {"start": "01:56:24", "end": "01:56:30", "text": "in magnesium. Uh so it's very strong so"}, {"start": "01:56:27", "end": "01:56:33", "text": "it can support caverns and and that kind"}, {"start": "01:56:30", "end": "01:56:34", "text": "of stone has been used for uh"}, {"start": "01:56:33", "end": "01:56:36", "text": ">> countertops and"}, {"start": "01:56:34", "end": "01:56:40", "text": ">> well sure but I'm but I'm talking about"}, {"start": "01:56:36", "end": "01:56:41", "text": "uh underground uh installations"}, {"start": "01:56:40", "end": "01:56:45", "text": ">> like walls and stuff."}, {"start": "01:56:41", "end": "01:56:49", "text": ">> Yeah. So so there there's um"}, {"start": "01:56:45", "end": "01:56:53", "text": ">> Yeah. So um so when I was looking at"}, {"start": "01:56:49", "end": "01:56:55", "text": "that uh I also I also realized that"}, {"start": "01:56:53", "end": "01:56:56", "text": "Illinois is geologically very stable."}, {"start": "01:56:55", "end": "01:56:59", "text": "There's not a lot of earthquake"}, {"start": "01:56:56", "end": "01:57:02", "text": "activity. Um, you have the New Madrid"}, {"start": "01:56:59", "end": "01:57:03", "text": "fault uh not too far away, but it it"}, {"start": "01:57:02", "end": "01:57:05", "text": "it's been pretty quiet for the most."}, {"start": "01:57:03", "end": "01:57:07", "text": ">> Have you visited that area or do you"}, {"start": "01:57:05", "end": "01:57:09", "text": "plan on visiting that area?"}, {"start": "01:57:07", "end": "01:57:12", "text": ">> Well, it's I've I've driven over that"}, {"start": "01:57:09", "end": "01:57:14", "text": "area several times, but um but another"}, {"start": "01:57:12", "end": "01:57:15", "text": "advantage to that it it's close to a"}, {"start": "01:57:14", "end": "01:57:15", "text": "freshwater source."}, {"start": "01:57:15", "end": "01:57:16", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "01:57:15", "end": "01:57:18", "text": ">> Lake Michigan."}, {"start": "01:57:16", "end": "01:57:19", "text": ">> Yeah. Great place to park your vehicle"}, {"start": "01:57:18", "end": "01:57:20", "text": "as well."}, {"start": "01:57:19", "end": "01:57:21", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:57:20", "end": "01:57:23", "text": ">> Right. I mean, we hear so many stories"}, {"start": "01:57:21", "end": "01:57:23", "text": "of like these things coming out of"}, {"start": "01:57:23", "end": "01:57:25", "text": "lakes."}, {"start": "01:57:23", "end": "01:57:27", "text": ">> Yeah. Um, especially Lake Michigan being"}, {"start": "01:57:25", "end": "01:57:28", "text": "a massive lake itself. I mean,"}, {"start": "01:57:27", "end": "01:57:29", "text": ">> yeah, there might be bases under the"}, {"start": "01:57:28", "end": "01:57:30", "text": "lake, too."}, {"start": "01:57:29", "end": "01:57:33", "text": ">> That's what I'm saying."}, {"start": "01:57:30", "end": "01:57:34", "text": ">> But, um, oh, they found they found a a"}, {"start": "01:57:33", "end": "01:57:35", "text": "stone hedge"}, {"start": "01:57:34", "end": "01:57:38", "text": ">> in Lake Michigan"}, {"start": "01:57:35", "end": "01:57:39", "text": ">> under uh Traverse Bay in Lake Michigan."}, {"start": "01:57:38", "end": "01:57:41", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "01:57:39", "end": "01:57:43", "text": ">> there you go. Um, I mean, that's that's"}, {"start": "01:57:41", "end": "01:57:46", "text": "really interesting. I'd be I'd be"}, {"start": "01:57:43", "end": "01:57:49", "text": "interested to see the correlation with"}, {"start": "01:57:46", "end": "01:57:52", "text": "the per capita amount of abductions or"}, {"start": "01:57:49", "end": "01:57:54", "text": "sightings or experiences in that"}, {"start": "01:57:52", "end": "01:57:55", "text": "specific area versus the surrounding"}, {"start": "01:57:54", "end": "01:57:57", "text": "areas. If there's anyone in that area"}, {"start": "01:57:55", "end": "01:57:59", "text": "listening to this right now, which is"}, {"start": "01:57:57", "end": "01:57:59", "text": "exactly which area? This is eastern"}, {"start": "01:57:59", "end": "01:58:01", "text": "Illinois."}, {"start": "01:57:59", "end": "01:58:03", "text": ">> Eastern Illinois running parallel to the"}, {"start": "01:58:01", "end": "01:58:03", "text": "Indiana border, just west of the Indiana"}, {"start": "01:58:03", "end": "01:58:06", "text": "border."}, {"start": "01:58:03", "end": "01:58:09", "text": ">> So, if you're from that area, comment"}, {"start": "01:58:06", "end": "01:58:11", "text": "below. Let me know if you've had any"}, {"start": "01:58:09", "end": "01:58:13", "text": "runins. I'd be I'd be curious. Muon has"}, {"start": "01:58:11", "end": "01:58:16", "text": "an app I think uh or there's an app that"}, {"start": "01:58:13", "end": "01:58:17", "text": "that has like uh little dots on maps of"}, {"start": "01:58:16", "end": "01:58:19", "text": "UFO sightings."}, {"start": "01:58:17", "end": "01:58:20", "text": ">> Yeah, but there's a lot of people out"}, {"start": "01:58:19", "end": "01:58:20", "text": "there that don't"}, {"start": "01:58:20", "end": "01:58:22", "text": ">> Yeah, that's true."}, {"start": "01:58:20", "end": "01:58:23", "text": ">> reach out to me find probably more"}, {"start": "01:58:22", "end": "01:58:25", "text": "people"}, {"start": "01:58:23", "end": "01:58:28", "text": ">> than do you know."}, {"start": "01:58:25", "end": "01:58:29", "text": ">> Uh but you you'd be surprised at the at"}, {"start": "01:58:28", "end": "01:58:31", "text": "some of the comments. You know, people"}, {"start": "01:58:29", "end": "01:58:33", "text": "through anonymity can uh can just come"}, {"start": "01:58:31", "end": "01:58:35", "text": "out and say, you know, well, actually"}, {"start": "01:58:33", "end": "01:58:37", "text": "there is something going on there or we"}, {"start": "01:58:35", "end": "01:58:39", "text": "did have a sighting in a in a lake. I I"}, {"start": "01:58:37", "end": "01:58:42", "text": "would I would love to have those caverns"}, {"start": "01:58:39", "end": "01:58:43", "text": "disproven or proven. Either way, I just"}, {"start": "01:58:42", "end": "01:58:45", "text": "want"}, {"start": "01:58:43", "end": "01:58:48", "text": ">> I'm creeped out by the thought that"}, {"start": "01:58:45", "end": "01:58:50", "text": "there may be tens of thousands of"}, {"start": "01:58:48", "end": "01:58:51", "text": "hybrids living underground beneath our"}, {"start": "01:58:50", "end": "01:58:52", "text": "feet in Illinois."}, {"start": "01:58:51", "end": "01:58:53", "text": ">> What do these hybrids look like, do you"}, {"start": "01:58:52", "end": "01:58:56", "text": "think?"}, {"start": "01:58:53", "end": "01:58:57", "text": ">> I I don't know. I can't I can I anytime"}, {"start": "01:58:56", "end": "01:58:59", "text": "I image"}, {"start": "01:58:57", "end": "01:59:01", "text": ">> I think they're mostly human."}, {"start": "01:58:59", "end": "01:59:03", "text": ">> Yeah. Um, you know, maybe they have"}, {"start": "01:59:01", "end": "01:59:07", "text": "slightly bigger eyes, but um, if they're"}, {"start": "01:59:03", "end": "01:59:09", "text": "bred for the surface,"}, {"start": "01:59:07", "end": "01:59:10", "text": "I I don't think they'd be given much"}, {"start": "01:59:09", "end": "01:59:12", "text": "bigger eyes than we have."}, {"start": "01:59:10", "end": "01:59:14", "text": ">> Yeah, they'd be similar to us,"}, {"start": "01:59:12", "end": "01:59:16", "text": ">> right? Because you'd want the the, you"}, {"start": "01:59:14", "end": "01:59:19", "text": "know, the shielding, you know, you want"}, {"start": "01:59:16", "end": "01:59:22", "text": "the brow ridge and and uh, like we have"}, {"start": "01:59:19", "end": "01:59:25", "text": "and and you'd want uh, you'd want the"}, {"start": "01:59:22", "end": "01:59:28", "text": "shielding from from sunlight and Yeah."}, {"start": "01:59:25", "end": "01:59:30", "text": "So, uh, I I think they would be similar,"}, {"start": "01:59:28", "end": "01:59:32", "text": "but the way they would differ is they"}, {"start": "01:59:30", "end": "01:59:35", "text": "would have larger heads, larger"}, {"start": "01:59:32", "end": "01:59:37", "text": "craniums, and neurology more closely"}, {"start": "01:59:35", "end": "01:59:40", "text": "reflecting that of the tall grays"}, {"start": "01:59:37", "end": "01:59:42", "text": ">> because you'd want the tall because they"}, {"start": "01:59:40", "end": "01:59:44", "text": "would want them to be telepathic"}, {"start": "01:59:42", "end": "01:59:46", "text": "because, you know, like they said to"}, {"start": "01:59:44", "end": "01:59:50", "text": "Whitley Striber, they don't believe that"}, {"start": "01:59:46", "end": "01:59:54", "text": "vocal or voiced uh sensient species, you"}, {"start": "01:59:50", "end": "01:59:58", "text": "know, can last very long. Um, so these"}, {"start": "01:59:54", "end": "02:00:00", "text": "may not even be capable of of human"}, {"start": "01:59:58", "end": "02:00:02", "text": "speech as we know it. Um, or maybe they"}, {"start": "02:00:00", "end": "02:00:06", "text": "can. Maybe they could do both. But I"}, {"start": "02:00:02", "end": "02:00:08", "text": "have a feeling um, you know, if you ever"}, {"start": "02:00:06", "end": "02:00:10", "text": "meet one that it would be telepathic. Do"}, {"start": "02:00:08", "end": "02:00:12", "text": "you have any plans on going out there"}, {"start": "02:00:10", "end": "02:00:14", "text": "and doing some research for yourself?"}, {"start": "02:00:12", "end": "02:00:14", "text": ">> Yeah, let me let me get a oil drilling"}, {"start": "02:00:14", "end": "02:00:15", "text": "crew. And"}, {"start": "02:00:14", "end": "02:00:16", "text": ">> we don't oil drilling, but I mean we"}, {"start": "02:00:15", "end": "02:00:17", "text": "have"}, {"start": "02:00:16", "end": "02:00:20", "text": ">> to find a cavern down there."}, {"start": "02:00:17", "end": "02:00:23", "text": ">> We have technology. Oh, well, yeah, but"}, {"start": "02:00:20", "end": "02:00:25", "text": "um it I asked Chad GPT what it would"}, {"start": "02:00:23", "end": "02:00:26", "text": "take to detect or map those caverns"}, {"start": "02:00:25", "end": "02:00:28", "text": ">> because they're so far down,"}, {"start": "02:00:26", "end": "02:00:28", "text": ">> right? It would it would cost millions"}, {"start": "02:00:28", "end": "02:00:30", "text": "of dollars."}, {"start": "02:00:28", "end": "02:00:32", "text": ">> Significant technology."}, {"start": "02:00:30", "end": "02:00:34", "text": ">> I mean, you could detect voids down"}, {"start": "02:00:32", "end": "02:00:36", "text": "there probably for less money, but if"}, {"start": "02:00:34", "end": "02:00:38", "text": "you want to map the whole thing, it"}, {"start": "02:00:36", "end": "02:00:40", "text": "would cost a lot of money. So, you'd"}, {"start": "02:00:38", "end": "02:00:42", "text": "need somebody like Elon Musk who could"}, {"start": "02:00:40", "end": "02:00:42", "text": "just write a check and not miss the"}, {"start": "02:00:42", "end": "02:00:44", "text": "money at all."}, {"start": "02:00:42", "end": "02:00:46", "text": ">> Well, he's boring tunnels right now as"}, {"start": "02:00:44", "end": "02:00:47", "text": "we speak, so you never know. He might"}, {"start": "02:00:46", "end": "02:00:47", "text": "come across one of these things"}, {"start": "02:00:47", "end": "02:00:49", "text": "eventually."}, {"start": "02:00:47", "end": "02:00:54", "text": ">> Well, yeah. Don't don't bore a tunnel in"}, {"start": "02:00:49", "end": "02:00:56", "text": "in Eastern Illinois. You you might that"}, {"start": "02:00:54", "end": "02:00:58", "text": ">> just be ready for anything."}, {"start": "02:00:56", "end": "02:01:00", "text": ">> I mean, it would I think that would be"}, {"start": "02:00:58", "end": "02:01:02", "text": "disclosure is Elon Musk boring into a"}, {"start": "02:01:00", "end": "02:01:04", "text": "hybrid facility."}, {"start": "02:01:02", "end": "02:01:08", "text": ">> I think that's how we get disclosure."}, {"start": "02:01:04", "end": "02:01:10", "text": ">> But I I was I was nervous to talk about"}, {"start": "02:01:08", "end": "02:01:10", "text": "the caverns when I first started writing"}, {"start": "02:01:10", "end": "02:01:13", "text": "the book"}, {"start": "02:01:10", "end": "02:01:15", "text": ">> for fear of disclosure. for fear of like"}, {"start": "02:01:13", "end": "02:01:17", "text": ">> No, for fear of like Well, you know, if"}, {"start": "02:01:15", "end": "02:01:18", "text": "there's caverns or if there isn't"}, {"start": "02:01:17", "end": "02:01:20", "text": "caverns under Eastern Illinois, that's"}, {"start": "02:01:18", "end": "02:01:20", "text": "testable, right?"}, {"start": "02:01:20", "end": "02:01:23", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "02:01:20", "end": "02:01:26", "text": ">> So, if somebody were to take uh me"}, {"start": "02:01:23", "end": "02:01:29", "text": "seriously enough to investigate, that's"}, {"start": "02:01:26", "end": "02:01:32", "text": "testable. And um wouldn't they throw out"}, {"start": "02:01:29", "end": "02:01:34", "text": "my whole story if if one aspect of the"}, {"start": "02:01:32", "end": "02:01:36", "text": "story? So, I I hesitated, but I'm like,"}, {"start": "02:01:34", "end": "02:01:38", "text": "you know what? I'm just going to tell it"}, {"start": "02:01:36", "end": "02:01:39", "text": "all. Yeah. I'm just going to tell"}, {"start": "02:01:38", "end": "02:01:41", "text": "everything I saw, everything I"}, {"start": "02:01:39", "end": "02:01:44", "text": "encountered, but I'm going to stay in my"}, {"start": "02:01:41", "end": "02:01:45", "text": "lane. If if I have a theory or an idea"}, {"start": "02:01:44", "end": "02:01:47", "text": "about something, I'm not going to say"}, {"start": "02:01:45", "end": "02:01:49", "text": "I'm the expert and and this is how it"}, {"start": "02:01:47", "end": "02:01:50", "text": "is. I'm going to tell you, all right,"}, {"start": "02:01:49", "end": "02:01:52", "text": "this is just a theory. This is just"}, {"start": "02:01:50", "end": "02:01:54", "text": "ideas that I've I've plucked and I put"}, {"start": "02:01:52", "end": "02:01:55", "text": "together because I think it could be"}, {"start": "02:01:54", "end": "02:01:59", "text": "this way. Sure."}, {"start": "02:01:55", "end": "02:02:02", "text": ">> Um, but in terms of like what I firmly"}, {"start": "02:01:59", "end": "02:02:03", "text": "believe, I'm going to stay in my lane"}, {"start": "02:02:02", "end": "02:02:05", "text": "and I'm going to stick to what I"}, {"start": "02:02:03", "end": "02:02:07", "text": "encountered, what I experienced, which"}, {"start": "02:02:05", "end": "02:02:12", "text": "you believe is the gray zetas."}, {"start": "02:02:07", "end": "02:02:15", "text": ">> Yeah. Um, is there do you leave any room"}, {"start": "02:02:12", "end": "02:02:19", "text": "in your mind whatsoever for"}, {"start": "02:02:15", "end": "02:02:21", "text": "the implication that they may be just"}, {"start": "02:02:19", "end": "02:02:23", "text": "that the phenomena might be something"}, {"start": "02:02:21", "end": "02:02:24", "text": "totally different, but that it appears"}, {"start": "02:02:23", "end": "02:02:26", "text": "to you in this way? Is there is there"}, {"start": "02:02:24", "end": "02:02:28", "text": "any of that that you reserve because"}, {"start": "02:02:26", "end": "02:02:31", "text": "there is there's so many stories that"}, {"start": "02:02:28", "end": "02:02:33", "text": "tell a different story slightly of the"}, {"start": "02:02:31", "end": "02:02:35", "text": "whether it's the appearance of the"}, {"start": "02:02:33", "end": "02:02:36", "text": "creatures or whether it's you the"}, {"start": "02:02:35", "end": "02:02:38", "text": "motives are similar but um"}, {"start": "02:02:36", "end": "02:02:40", "text": ">> well I I mean there there's been"}, {"start": "02:02:38", "end": "02:02:43", "text": "encounters with other species you know"}, {"start": "02:02:40", "end": "02:02:45", "text": "there the mantis the manted beings"}, {"start": "02:02:43", "end": "02:02:47", "text": ">> even among the grays like even if you"}, {"start": "02:02:45", "end": "02:02:49", "text": "look at um Patty and Barney Hill who you"}, {"start": "02:02:47", "end": "02:02:51", "text": "mentioned earlier it's different uh they"}, {"start": "02:02:49", "end": "02:02:53", "text": "have different slit like eyes and"}, {"start": "02:02:51", "end": "02:02:55", "text": "there's uh different um"}, {"start": "02:02:53", "end": "02:02:58", "text": ">> well there's I believe that the zeta"}, {"start": "02:02:55", "end": "02:02:58", "text": "grays seated other gray species on other"}, {"start": "02:02:58", "end": "02:02:59", "text": "planets."}, {"start": "02:02:58", "end": "02:03:02", "text": ">> I see."}, {"start": "02:02:59", "end": "02:03:04", "text": ">> Uh and so you have the big-nose grays."}, {"start": "02:03:02", "end": "02:03:06", "text": "Uh Linda Molton How talked about this in"}, {"start": "02:03:04", "end": "02:03:07", "text": "a documentary I saw"}, {"start": "02:03:06", "end": "02:03:09", "text": ">> Samrian guys,"}, {"start": "02:03:07", "end": "02:03:12", "text": ">> right? The the big-nose grays are the"}, {"start": "02:03:09", "end": "02:03:14", "text": "ones behind the Sumerian gods. Uh I"}, {"start": "02:03:12", "end": "02:03:18", "text": "think they were engineering uh"}, {"start": "02:03:14", "end": "02:03:20", "text": "emissaries. Um but I think that the Zeta"}, {"start": "02:03:18", "end": "02:03:22", "text": "Grayes were the puppet masters for these"}, {"start": "02:03:20", "end": "02:03:24", "text": "others. So, you have the Glei grays, the"}, {"start": "02:03:22", "end": "02:03:28", "text": "ones from the I don't know if I'm"}, {"start": "02:03:24", "end": "02:03:30", "text": "pronouncing it right, Glei or Gleasa. Uh"}, {"start": "02:03:28", "end": "02:03:31", "text": "that that look they they have the"}, {"start": "02:03:30", "end": "02:03:32", "text": "epicanthic eyefold that makes them look"}, {"start": "02:03:31", "end": "02:03:33", "text": "almost Asian,"}, {"start": "02:03:32", "end": "02:03:33", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "02:03:33", "end": "02:03:35", "text": ">> Um"}, {"start": "02:03:33", "end": "02:03:36", "text": ">> Yeah. The ones in Aztec"}, {"start": "02:03:35", "end": "02:03:37", "text": "similar to those."}, {"start": "02:03:36", "end": "02:03:38", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "02:03:37", "end": "02:03:40", "text": ">> But they had little noses, too."}, {"start": "02:03:38", "end": "02:03:43", "text": ">> Yeah. So, so there's there's different"}, {"start": "02:03:40", "end": "02:03:45", "text": "species of grays and I don't discount"}, {"start": "02:03:43", "end": "02:03:47", "text": "other people seeing those, but I didn't"}, {"start": "02:03:45", "end": "02:03:49", "text": "see those types. I didn't see a manted"}, {"start": "02:03:47", "end": "02:03:53", "text": "being. I didn't see any reptilians, but"}, {"start": "02:03:49", "end": "02:03:56", "text": "there was one type of creature that I uh"}, {"start": "02:03:53", "end": "02:03:59", "text": "perceived to be a doctor uh on one of"}, {"start": "02:03:56", "end": "02:04:02", "text": "their facilities. And I woke up in a"}, {"start": "02:03:59", "end": "02:04:04", "text": "standing position in a gray room. Uh,"}, {"start": "02:04:02", "end": "02:04:07", "text": "and there was a a cylinder in the middle"}, {"start": "02:04:04", "end": "02:04:10", "text": "of the the room uh from the floor to the"}, {"start": "02:04:07", "end": "02:04:12", "text": "ceiling connecting and there was like a"}, {"start": "02:04:10", "end": "02:04:14", "text": "eight or nine foot tall doorway and it"}, {"start": "02:04:12", "end": "02:04:17", "text": "was brightly lit from inside but the"}, {"start": "02:04:14", "end": "02:04:20", "text": "room itself was dark and there was a"}, {"start": "02:04:17", "end": "02:04:23", "text": "dozen or 18 I don't know how many tall"}, {"start": "02:04:20", "end": "02:04:25", "text": "grays very tall grays like 7 8 ft tall"}, {"start": "02:04:23", "end": "02:04:27", "text": "in the back of the room observing me"}, {"start": "02:04:25", "end": "02:04:29", "text": "interacting with what I thought was a"}, {"start": "02:04:27", "end": "02:04:31", "text": "doctor and it was a much smaller"}, {"start": "02:04:29", "end": "02:04:33", "text": "creature but it wasn't a short gray It"}, {"start": "02:04:31", "end": "02:04:35", "text": "wasn't a Skinny Bob. It was something"}, {"start": "02:04:33", "end": "02:04:37", "text": "else. It had darker skin. I can't"}, {"start": "02:04:35", "end": "02:04:40", "text": "remember the color. I can't remember his"}, {"start": "02:04:37", "end": "02:04:41", "text": "face because"}, {"start": "02:04:40", "end": "02:04:43", "text": "it was some kind of screen memory where"}, {"start": "02:04:41", "end": "02:04:46", "text": "I kept trying to see it as human, but it"}, {"start": "02:04:43", "end": "02:04:48", "text": "it it appeared like a frog. So, so my"}, {"start": "02:04:46", "end": "02:04:50", "text": "brain is thinking, well, what human"}, {"start": "02:04:48", "end": "02:04:54", "text": "looks like a frog. And so I thought of"}, {"start": "02:04:50", "end": "02:04:55", "text": "the actor Wallace Shawn."}, {"start": "02:04:54", "end": "02:04:57", "text": ">> Inconceivable."}, {"start": "02:04:55", "end": "02:04:58", "text": ">> I'm not gonna pull him up, by the way."}, {"start": "02:04:57", "end": "02:05:00", "text": "Poor Wallace."}, {"start": "02:04:58", "end": "02:05:02", "text": ">> I love that guy. I love No, he's great."}, {"start": "02:05:00", "end": "02:05:05", "text": "I mean, he's one of my favorites, but um"}, {"start": "02:05:02", "end": "02:05:09", "text": "but so I am like, okay, well, it's"}, {"start": "02:05:05", "end": "02:05:12", "text": "obviously not him. Um but this thing had"}, {"start": "02:05:09", "end": "02:05:14", "text": "big cheeks and and big bulbous eyes and"}, {"start": "02:05:12", "end": "02:05:16", "text": "kind of a punch belly like sticking out,"}, {"start": "02:05:14", "end": "02:05:19", "text": ">> not unlike what you described,"}, {"start": "02:05:16", "end": "02:05:22", "text": ">> right? So, and it had very long fingers"}, {"start": "02:05:19", "end": "02:05:24", "text": "with like pads on the ends. And it was I"}, {"start": "02:05:22", "end": "02:05:26", "text": "woke up in a standing position and this"}, {"start": "02:05:24", "end": "02:05:29", "text": "thing was cupping my testicles. I was"}, {"start": "02:05:26", "end": "02:05:31", "text": "naked and I was upset because when he"}, {"start": "02:05:29", "end": "02:05:34", "text": "touched me down there, I felt uh like"}, {"start": "02:05:31", "end": "02:05:37", "text": "waves of of like electricity moving up"}, {"start": "02:05:34", "end": "02:05:40", "text": "into my kidneys and it was uncomfortable"}, {"start": "02:05:37", "end": "02:05:42", "text": "and um and I don't know what he was"}, {"start": "02:05:40", "end": "02:05:45", "text": "interested in, but he was checking me"}, {"start": "02:05:42", "end": "02:05:46", "text": "out like diagnosing something and then"}, {"start": "02:05:45", "end": "02:05:47", "text": "um I'm like, \"Why are you touching me"}, {"start": "02:05:46", "end": "02:05:49", "text": "down there?\" I was like giving him a"}, {"start": "02:05:47", "end": "02:05:51", "text": "hard time. I was being belligerent, but"}, {"start": "02:05:49", "end": "02:05:53", "text": "I was kind of half out of it, too. I was"}, {"start": "02:05:51", "end": "02:05:55", "text": "just annoyed. I don't like being woken"}, {"start": "02:05:53", "end": "02:05:57", "text": "up and taken out of my bed and showing"}, {"start": "02:05:55", "end": "02:06:01", "text": "up in some strange place. You know, I'm"}, {"start": "02:05:57", "end": "02:06:03", "text": "not going to be nice to you. Um, so I"}, {"start": "02:06:01", "end": "02:06:06", "text": "was belligerent being belligerent toward"}, {"start": "02:06:03", "end": "02:06:08", "text": "this thing and it stood up and walked"}, {"start": "02:06:06", "end": "02:06:11", "text": "and and uh toward this cylinder in the"}, {"start": "02:06:08", "end": "02:06:14", "text": "middle of the room and went into the"}, {"start": "02:06:11", "end": "02:06:16", "text": "lighted door and I I was standing there"}, {"start": "02:06:14", "end": "02:06:17", "text": "and and I was looking and the grays were"}, {"start": "02:06:16", "end": "02:06:19", "text": "still the tall grays were still watching"}, {"start": "02:06:17", "end": "02:06:21", "text": "me just kind of like chatting amongst"}, {"start": "02:06:19", "end": "02:06:23", "text": "themselves and I could hear their"}, {"start": "02:06:21", "end": "02:06:26", "text": "telepathy between them. M"}, {"start": "02:06:23", "end": "02:06:29", "text": ">> it was a little bit annoying, but I I"}, {"start": "02:06:26", "end": "02:06:31", "text": "ignored it for a while and then this"}, {"start": "02:06:29", "end": "02:06:34", "text": "creature came out again, but I perceived"}, {"start": "02:06:31", "end": "02:06:38", "text": "it to be a different doctor."}, {"start": "02:06:34", "end": "02:06:41", "text": "Like maybe that one got sick of me,"}, {"start": "02:06:38", "end": "02:06:42", "text": "you know, bashing it. Um so I thought it"}, {"start": "02:06:41", "end": "02:06:44", "text": "was a different doctor. So then I'm"}, {"start": "02:06:42", "end": "02:06:46", "text": "like, \"Oh yeah, that other doctor, he"}, {"start": "02:06:44", "end": "02:06:48", "text": "was like touching my balls and he was I"}, {"start": "02:06:46", "end": "02:06:51", "text": "don't know why I was talking. I was so"}, {"start": "02:06:48", "end": "02:06:53", "text": "focused on that, you know, like cuz it"}, {"start": "02:06:51", "end": "02:06:57", "text": "was a violation and I I didn't like it."}, {"start": "02:06:53", "end": "02:06:59", "text": "And um so um he led me to these benches"}, {"start": "02:06:57", "end": "02:07:00", "text": "like he was sitting on a bench and I was"}, {"start": "02:06:59", "end": "02:07:02", "text": "standing near the other bench"}, {"start": "02:07:00", "end": "02:07:05", "text": "originally, but he made me sit down on"}, {"start": "02:07:02", "end": "02:07:08", "text": "the bench and then he had had these very"}, {"start": "02:07:05", "end": "02:07:11", "text": "long spindly arms and he stuck it on my"}, {"start": "02:07:08", "end": "02:07:12", "text": "abdomen and he was kind of moving his"}, {"start": "02:07:11", "end": "02:07:14", "text": "hands up and down and he said, \"You have"}, {"start": "02:07:12", "end": "02:07:17", "text": "an enemy inside you, but you're going to"}, {"start": "02:07:14", "end": "02:07:19", "text": "feel better in a few days.\""}, {"start": "02:07:17", "end": "02:07:23", "text": "And I didn't understand what he meant."}, {"start": "02:07:19", "end": "02:07:26", "text": "But while he was talking to me, I and I"}, {"start": "02:07:23", "end": "02:07:28", "text": "was trying to like talk back to him. And"}, {"start": "02:07:26", "end": "02:07:31", "text": "those tall grays in the background, they"}, {"start": "02:07:28", "end": "02:07:32", "text": "were they were, you know, it was like"}, {"start": "02:07:31", "end": "02:07:35", "text": "gibberish to me. I didn't understand"}, {"start": "02:07:32", "end": "02:07:36", "text": "what they were saying to each other. But"}, {"start": "02:07:35", "end": "02:07:38", "text": "there was more than a dozen voices all"}, {"start": "02:07:36", "end": "02:07:41", "text": "at the same time. And I I was getting"}, {"start": "02:07:38", "end": "02:07:42", "text": "upset with them because their telepathy"}, {"start": "02:07:41", "end": "02:07:44", "text": ">> was interfering"}, {"start": "02:07:42", "end": "02:07:46", "text": ">> was interfering with with I you know, I"}, {"start": "02:07:44", "end": "02:07:47", "text": "was but I was vocally trying to talk to"}, {"start": "02:07:46", "end": "02:07:49", "text": "this doctor. Now, I wasn't trying to use"}, {"start": "02:07:47", "end": "02:07:50", "text": "telepathy with them. I was vocally"}, {"start": "02:07:49", "end": "02:07:53", "text": "talking to them, but I could hear them"}, {"start": "02:07:50", "end": "02:07:55", "text": "perfectly. So, I got annoyed with them."}, {"start": "02:07:53", "end": "02:07:59", "text": "And I I'm like I did this like, \"Shut"}, {"start": "02:07:55", "end": "02:08:01", "text": "up. Go away.\" And they all shut up at"}, {"start": "02:07:59", "end": "02:08:03", "text": "the same time simultaneously"}, {"start": "02:08:01", "end": "02:08:06", "text": "like like a switch had gone off. And"}, {"start": "02:08:03", "end": "02:08:08", "text": "then they turned around their backs to"}, {"start": "02:08:06", "end": "02:08:10", "text": "me and they went further back against"}, {"start": "02:08:08", "end": "02:08:11", "text": "the wall deeper into the shadows where I"}, {"start": "02:08:10", "end": "02:08:13", "text": "couldn't see them. And then I could see"}, {"start": "02:08:11", "end": "02:08:14", "text": "their shoulders rotating just enough"}, {"start": "02:08:13", "end": "02:08:16", "text": "that I knew that they were turning back"}, {"start": "02:08:14", "end": "02:08:18", "text": "around to look at me. But they were"}, {"start": "02:08:16", "end": "02:08:23", "text": "observing. Why were they there? Why"}, {"start": "02:08:18", "end": "02:08:24", "text": "would all of these people take time out"}, {"start": "02:08:23", "end": "02:08:27", "text": "of whatever they're doing in this"}, {"start": "02:08:24", "end": "02:08:30", "text": "facility to sit here and gawk at me"}, {"start": "02:08:27", "end": "02:08:32", "text": "naked with this doctor thing? It I"}, {"start": "02:08:30", "end": "02:08:33", "text": "didn't understand why. Like why am I so"}, {"start": "02:08:32", "end": "02:08:36", "text": "interesting?"}, {"start": "02:08:33", "end": "02:08:38", "text": ">> Ungable. Unlockable."}, {"start": "02:08:36", "end": "02:08:41", "text": ">> There's no way. Like I I think instantly"}, {"start": "02:08:38", "end": "02:08:43", "text": "when I hear that of like what the"}, {"start": "02:08:41", "end": "02:08:45", "text": "feeling would be like pulling a fish out"}, {"start": "02:08:43", "end": "02:08:47", "text": "of water, you know, being like in the"}, {"start": "02:08:45", "end": "02:08:49", "text": "fish going what is all this?"}, {"start": "02:08:47", "end": "02:08:51", "text": ">> What is all this? And and why are they"}, {"start": "02:08:49", "end": "02:08:53", "text": "looking at me, you know, like what's so"}, {"start": "02:08:51", "end": "02:08:55", "text": "interesting that they have to stand? Are"}, {"start": "02:08:53", "end": "02:08:57", "text": "they like student doctors,"}, {"start": "02:08:55", "end": "02:09:00", "text": ">> you know, observing? But anyway, when I"}, {"start": "02:08:57", "end": "02:09:02", "text": "woke up, uh I because after after he"}, {"start": "02:09:00", "end": "02:09:05", "text": "said that thing to me and after I shoot"}, {"start": "02:09:02", "end": "02:09:07", "text": "off those other people,"}, {"start": "02:09:05", "end": "02:09:09", "text": "uh I went unconscious and then when I"}, {"start": "02:09:07", "end": "02:09:13", "text": "woke up, I was back at home. I was in my"}, {"start": "02:09:09", "end": "02:09:15", "text": "bed and suddenly my gird was gone and"}, {"start": "02:09:13", "end": "02:09:17", "text": "these sharp pains that I used to have in"}, {"start": "02:09:15", "end": "02:09:20", "text": "my stomach were gone"}, {"start": "02:09:17", "end": "02:09:21", "text": "and and I'm like there's no pressure,"}, {"start": "02:09:20", "end": "02:09:25", "text": "there's no pain. I push on my belly,"}, {"start": "02:09:21", "end": "02:09:26", "text": "there's it's gone. And but he said I had"}, {"start": "02:09:25", "end": "02:09:29", "text": "an enemy inside of me. When he said it"}, {"start": "02:09:26", "end": "02:09:30", "text": "originally I I thought he said an enemy."}, {"start": "02:09:29", "end": "02:09:31", "text": "I'm like sea urchin."}, {"start": "02:09:30", "end": "02:09:33", "text": ">> An an enemy."}, {"start": "02:09:31", "end": "02:09:35", "text": ">> An an enemy. And I'm like cuz I it just"}, {"start": "02:09:33", "end": "02:09:37", "text": "the way the syllables came out. I'm like"}, {"start": "02:09:35", "end": "02:09:39", "text": "an an enemy. What are you talking about?"}, {"start": "02:09:37", "end": "02:09:41", "text": "Sea urchin. And and then and I replayed"}, {"start": "02:09:39", "end": "02:09:46", "text": "what he said in my mind. Oh, enemy."}, {"start": "02:09:41", "end": "02:09:49", "text": "Okay. Um so I woke up and I felt better"}, {"start": "02:09:46", "end": "02:09:52", "text": "instantly. I had the gird for years and"}, {"start": "02:09:49", "end": "02:09:55", "text": "and and earlier that year uh or actually"}, {"start": "02:09:52", "end": "02:09:57", "text": "the previous I started having like"}, {"start": "02:09:55", "end": "02:09:59", "text": "really sharp stomach pains the same time"}, {"start": "02:09:57", "end": "02:10:01", "text": "my girlfriend was having them. Well,"}, {"start": "02:09:59", "end": "02:10:03", "text": "hers ended up being a type of cancer"}, {"start": "02:10:01", "end": "02:10:04", "text": "that you know that she had treated and"}, {"start": "02:10:03", "end": "02:10:08", "text": "she's fine."}, {"start": "02:10:04", "end": "02:10:11", "text": ">> But um so it made me think, well, did I"}, {"start": "02:10:08", "end": "02:10:13", "text": "have stomach cancer or cancer somewhere"}, {"start": "02:10:11", "end": "02:10:16", "text": "in my gut? Yeah, some type of"}, {"start": "02:10:13", "end": "02:10:19", "text": ">> um but when he was done touching my my"}, {"start": "02:10:16", "end": "02:10:20", "text": "abdomen, he slumped. He collapsed into"}, {"start": "02:10:19", "end": "02:10:23", "text": "his chair and he slumped and he had this"}, {"start": "02:10:20", "end": "02:10:26", "text": "the saddest look on his face like he was"}, {"start": "02:10:23", "end": "02:10:28", "text": "completely exhausted. I I thought maybe"}, {"start": "02:10:26", "end": "02:10:31", "text": "I was just insulting him so much and"}, {"start": "02:10:28", "end": "02:10:34", "text": "just giving him such a hard time that he"}, {"start": "02:10:31", "end": "02:10:37", "text": "he was, you know, just like sad, but or"}, {"start": "02:10:34", "end": "02:10:37", "text": "maybe because he was healing me in some"}, {"start": "02:10:37", "end": "02:10:38", "text": "way,"}, {"start": "02:10:37", "end": "02:10:41", "text": ">> just depleted."}, {"start": "02:10:38", "end": "02:10:43", "text": ">> I depleted him because it was a bad"}, {"start": "02:10:41", "end": "02:10:45", "text": "enough problem. Maybe I had some kind of"}, {"start": "02:10:43", "end": "02:10:48", "text": "cancer and he took care of it cuz he"}, {"start": "02:10:45", "end": "02:10:50", "text": "called it an enemy inside me. I don't"}, {"start": "02:10:48", "end": "02:10:52", "text": "Maybe he he lacked the vocabulary to"}, {"start": "02:10:50", "end": "02:10:54", "text": "call it anything else,"}, {"start": "02:10:52", "end": "02:10:56", "text": ">> you know? Maybe he he wasn't a native"}, {"start": "02:10:54", "end": "02:10:59", "text": "English speaker and and they have the"}, {"start": "02:10:56", "end": "02:11:02", "text": "technology to think whatever they think"}, {"start": "02:10:59", "end": "02:11:02", "text": "and then I'm it's perceived on my end as"}, {"start": "02:11:02", "end": "02:11:04", "text": "English."}, {"start": "02:11:02", "end": "02:11:06", "text": ">> It's translated with your mind."}, {"start": "02:11:04", "end": "02:11:06", "text": ">> I don't know how I'm not even going to"}, {"start": "02:11:06", "end": "02:11:08", "text": "speculate."}, {"start": "02:11:06", "end": "02:11:09", "text": ">> Yeah. Or maybe he's like some alien"}, {"start": "02:11:08", "end": "02:11:12", "text": "witch doctor."}, {"start": "02:11:09", "end": "02:11:14", "text": ">> Yeah. I don't know. But uh but it was it"}, {"start": "02:11:12", "end": "02:11:15", "text": "was a different kind of creature and I"}, {"start": "02:11:14", "end": "02:11:17", "text": "can't remember its face."}, {"start": "02:11:15", "end": "02:11:19", "text": ">> That's the only other like you never met"}, {"start": "02:11:17", "end": "02:11:20", "text": "any mantids, never any humanoids, never"}, {"start": "02:11:19", "end": "02:11:21", "text": "any half breeds or"}, {"start": "02:11:20", "end": "02:11:23", "text": ">> nothing like that."}, {"start": "02:11:21", "end": "02:11:25", "text": ">> Yeah. Wow. Just just just the two types"}, {"start": "02:11:23", "end": "02:11:27", "text": "of grays I've only remembered."}, {"start": "02:11:25", "end": "02:11:30", "text": ">> What was the last experience you had?"}, {"start": "02:11:27", "end": "02:11:32", "text": ">> March of 2024."}, {"start": "02:11:30", "end": "02:11:33", "text": ">> Whoa. That's almost 2 years ago."}, {"start": "02:11:32", "end": "02:11:35", "text": "Exactly."}, {"start": "02:11:33", "end": "02:11:38", "text": ">> Yeah. It was uh"}, {"start": "02:11:35", "end": "02:11:41", "text": "I went to bed having had a couple of"}, {"start": "02:11:38", "end": "02:11:43", "text": "whisies. I had uh two u cocktails. They"}, {"start": "02:11:41", "end": "02:11:45", "text": "were called Oldfashions. You know, it's"}, {"start": "02:11:43", "end": "02:11:48", "text": "got simple syrup in it and some cherry"}, {"start": "02:11:45", "end": "02:11:52", "text": "juice and uh bitters and uh and I like"}, {"start": "02:11:48", "end": "02:11:54", "text": "to smoke them with oak oak wood. I would"}, {"start": "02:11:52", "end": "02:11:59", "text": "have back then I would have a drink"}, {"start": "02:11:54", "end": "02:12:01", "text": "maybe once a week on a weekend. Uh or if"}, {"start": "02:11:59", "end": "02:12:02", "text": "I really was enjoying the drink, I might"}, {"start": "02:12:01", "end": "02:12:05", "text": "make myself a second one because I was"}, {"start": "02:12:02", "end": "02:12:08", "text": "enjoying that that slight buzz then just"}, {"start": "02:12:05", "end": "02:12:10", "text": "watching a movie and relaxing. Uh don't"}, {"start": "02:12:08", "end": "02:12:12", "text": "have to drive, don't have to be"}, {"start": "02:12:10", "end": "02:12:16", "text": "anywhere. Just so I'd have a second one."}, {"start": "02:12:12", "end": "02:12:19", "text": "Sure. And uh so I went to bed a little"}, {"start": "02:12:16", "end": "02:12:22", "text": "little happy, a little inebriated and uh"}, {"start": "02:12:19", "end": "02:12:27", "text": "fell asleep right away. Um, and I woke"}, {"start": "02:12:22", "end": "02:12:31", "text": "up and I was in a uncharacteristically"}, {"start": "02:12:27", "end": "02:12:34", "text": "brightly lit white room. White, which is"}, {"start": "02:12:31", "end": "02:12:36", "text": "weird. Normally it's gray. And uh and I"}, {"start": "02:12:34", "end": "02:12:39", "text": "was sitting on a like a reclined"}, {"start": "02:12:36", "end": "02:12:43", "text": "cushioned I' say a chair of some kind."}, {"start": "02:12:39", "end": "02:12:45", "text": "And uh I was surrounded by uh three tall"}, {"start": "02:12:43", "end": "02:12:48", "text": "grays. And the two that were closest to"}, {"start": "02:12:45", "end": "02:12:49", "text": "me were uh talking amongst themselves."}, {"start": "02:12:48", "end": "02:12:51", "text": "But I I couldn't understand. and it was"}, {"start": "02:12:49", "end": "02:12:53", "text": "like gibberish to me and then they were"}, {"start": "02:12:51", "end": "02:12:57", "text": "trying to talk to me. They looked"}, {"start": "02:12:53", "end": "02:12:59", "text": "directly at me and um they said uh said"}, {"start": "02:12:57", "end": "02:13:01", "text": "something I I couldn't understand it."}, {"start": "02:12:59", "end": "02:13:03", "text": "But then finally some words came through"}, {"start": "02:13:01", "end": "02:13:06", "text": "that I could understand and it was you"}, {"start": "02:13:03", "end": "02:13:09", "text": "shouldn't drink alcohol."}, {"start": "02:13:06", "end": "02:13:11", "text": "And I was insulted by that because it's"}, {"start": "02:13:09", "end": "02:13:15", "text": "not like I'm I'm an addict or an"}, {"start": "02:13:11", "end": "02:13:17", "text": "alcoholic. You know, I I uh I have one"}, {"start": "02:13:15", "end": "02:13:19", "text": "drink a week. Sometimes two weeks goes"}, {"start": "02:13:17", "end": "02:13:22", "text": "by, 3 weeks and then I'll have another"}, {"start": "02:13:19", "end": "02:13:23", "text": "one. You know, it's like that. Um, so I"}, {"start": "02:13:22", "end": "02:13:24", "text": "was insulted that they would tell me"}, {"start": "02:13:23", "end": "02:13:26", "text": "what to do. I don't like being told what"}, {"start": "02:13:24", "end": "02:13:28", "text": "to do. I don't even like bosses telling"}, {"start": "02:13:26", "end": "02:13:33", "text": "me what to do."}, {"start": "02:13:28", "end": "02:13:35", "text": ">> Yeah. Uh, so, so I swore at them. I"}, {"start": "02:13:33", "end": "02:13:38", "text": "said, \"F you.\" You know, I haven't had a"}, {"start": "02:13:35", "end": "02:13:42", "text": "drink in two weeks since that Thursday,"}, {"start": "02:13:38", "end": "02:13:44", "text": "two weeks ago. And I think they didn't"}, {"start": "02:13:42", "end": "02:13:46", "text": "like that I said that. And they kind of"}, {"start": "02:13:44", "end": "02:13:49", "text": "looked at themselves and they looked"}, {"start": "02:13:46", "end": "02:13:52", "text": "back at me and then I went unconscious."}, {"start": "02:13:49", "end": "02:13:55", "text": "And um"}, {"start": "02:13:52", "end": "02:13:58", "text": "in the next ensuing few weeks, I decided"}, {"start": "02:13:55", "end": "02:14:01", "text": "to make myself another drink. And I made"}, {"start": "02:13:58", "end": "02:14:04", "text": "uh the same cocktail, the same type of"}, {"start": "02:14:01", "end": "02:14:08", "text": "old-fashioned. And when I went to drink"}, {"start": "02:14:04", "end": "02:14:12", "text": "it, I hated it. It tasted off. It tasted"}, {"start": "02:14:08", "end": "02:14:14", "text": "weird. I just didn't like it. And and I"}, {"start": "02:14:12", "end": "02:14:15", "text": "felt I look at the drink like it had"}, {"start": "02:14:14", "end": "02:14:17", "text": "betrayed me in some way. Like what"}, {"start": "02:14:15", "end": "02:14:21", "text": "what's with you?"}, {"start": "02:14:17", "end": "02:14:23", "text": "And um and ever since then, I've lost"}, {"start": "02:14:21", "end": "02:14:26", "text": "any desire whatsoever to ever relax"}, {"start": "02:14:23", "end": "02:14:30", "text": "using alcohol. It's gone. It's just"}, {"start": "02:14:26", "end": "02:14:32", "text": "gone. And uh now if I'm with friends or"}, {"start": "02:14:30", "end": "02:14:34", "text": "family and we're having pasta and"}, {"start": "02:14:32", "end": "02:14:37", "text": "there's red wine being passed around,"}, {"start": "02:14:34", "end": "02:14:41", "text": "I'll have a glass, but I don't like the"}, {"start": "02:14:37", "end": "02:14:44", "text": "feeling of a buzz anymore. I don't even"}, {"start": "02:14:41", "end": "02:14:45", "text": "like it. Even that relaxed feeling, I"}, {"start": "02:14:44", "end": "02:14:47", "text": "feel like I've completely lost my desire"}, {"start": "02:14:45", "end": "02:14:50", "text": "for that. And I used to love it."}, {"start": "02:14:47", "end": "02:14:51", "text": ">> I mean, if they're harvesting you in any"}, {"start": "02:14:50", "end": "02:14:54", "text": "capacity, I mean, it is in their best"}, {"start": "02:14:51", "end": "02:14:54", "text": "interest to have you stop drinking."}, {"start": "02:14:54", "end": "02:14:57", "text": "Right."}, {"start": "02:14:54", "end": "02:14:59", "text": ">> Right. I guess. Right. And and um and"}, {"start": "02:14:57", "end": "02:15:01", "text": "maybe it was contributing to my ill gut"}, {"start": "02:14:59", "end": "02:15:03", "text": "health and which they just fixed."}, {"start": "02:15:01", "end": "02:15:05", "text": ">> Right."}, {"start": "02:15:03", "end": "02:15:06", "text": "We paid a lot of money for this alien"}, {"start": "02:15:05", "end": "02:15:06", "text": "witch doctor,"}, {"start": "02:15:06", "end": "02:15:08", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "02:15:06", "end": "02:15:10", "text": ">> Um so you had some type of intergalactic"}, {"start": "02:15:08", "end": "02:15:10", "text": "intervention."}, {"start": "02:15:10", "end": "02:15:13", "text": ">> Um"}, {"start": "02:15:10", "end": "02:15:16", "text": ">> that's a funny way to put it. Uh I mean"}, {"start": "02:15:13", "end": "02:15:18", "text": "are you and that's that's 2 years ago"}, {"start": "02:15:16", "end": "02:15:21", "text": "and since then you've just not even"}, {"start": "02:15:18", "end": "02:15:22", "text": ">> I I had during 2024 I had a few"}, {"start": "02:15:21", "end": "02:15:24", "text": "impressions"}, {"start": "02:15:22", "end": "02:15:27", "text": ">> where I might have had an encounter the"}, {"start": "02:15:24", "end": "02:15:27", "text": "night before but I had no memory of it."}, {"start": "02:15:27", "end": "02:15:29", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "02:15:27", "end": "02:15:31", "text": ">> It was just an impression cuz you talked"}, {"start": "02:15:29", "end": "02:15:32", "text": "about these waves of 20 years 4 years 20"}, {"start": "02:15:31", "end": "02:15:35", "text": "years four years."}, {"start": "02:15:32", "end": "02:15:37", "text": ">> Are you you feel like this is the end of"}, {"start": "02:15:35", "end": "02:15:40", "text": "that fouryear interim that term?"}, {"start": "02:15:37", "end": "02:15:40", "text": ">> Yeah 2020. So, it started in 2020 that"}, {"start": "02:15:40", "end": "02:15:43", "text": "I'm aware of"}, {"start": "02:15:40", "end": "02:15:46", "text": ">> and then it ended in 2024. So, I don't"}, {"start": "02:15:43", "end": "02:15:49", "text": "expect them back for another 18 years."}, {"start": "02:15:46", "end": "02:15:52", "text": ">> Um, if they come back, I mean,"}, {"start": "02:15:49", "end": "02:15:53", "text": ">> like my would I still be a viable donor?"}, {"start": "02:15:52", "end": "02:15:53", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "02:15:53", "end": "02:15:55", "text": ">> In my 70s"}, {"start": "02:15:53", "end": "02:15:57", "text": ">> or or maybe they're just looking to see"}, {"start": "02:15:55", "end": "02:15:58", "text": "what happens, you know, to their"}, {"start": "02:15:57", "end": "02:16:01", "text": "experiment. Yeah."}, {"start": "02:15:58", "end": "02:16:04", "text": ">> What um"}, {"start": "02:16:01", "end": "02:16:05", "text": "in 18 years time you're going to think"}, {"start": "02:16:04", "end": "02:16:08", "text": "of a you're going to think of something"}, {"start": "02:16:05", "end": "02:16:10", "text": "to to write down on a poster."}, {"start": "02:16:08", "end": "02:16:11", "text": "What's that going to be? What are you"}, {"start": "02:16:10", "end": "02:16:11", "text": "going to what are you going to write"}, {"start": "02:16:11", "end": "02:16:14", "text": "down on that poster?"}, {"start": "02:16:11", "end": "02:16:16", "text": " off."}, {"start": "02:16:14", "end": "02:16:17", "text": ">> Let me enjoy an oldfashioned."}, {"start": "02:16:16", "end": "02:16:19", "text": "I've earned it."}, {"start": "02:16:17", "end": "02:16:20", "text": ">> I'm just going to say f off."}, {"start": "02:16:19", "end": "02:16:22", "text": ">> Yeah. All right. Yeah, fair enough."}, {"start": "02:16:20", "end": "02:16:24", "text": ">> No, I I want nothing to do with them."}, {"start": "02:16:22", "end": "02:16:26", "text": "I'm not even cur Well, I'm still curious"}, {"start": "02:16:24", "end": "02:16:29", "text": "about them because I feel like my only"}, {"start": "02:16:26", "end": "02:16:31", "text": "form of empowerment in the face of of"}, {"start": "02:16:29", "end": "02:16:34", "text": "complete loss of agency that they have"}, {"start": "02:16:31", "end": "02:16:35", "text": "the ability to impose upon people like"}, {"start": "02:16:34", "end": "02:16:40", "text": "me,"}, {"start": "02:16:35", "end": "02:16:44", "text": ">> I my only my only power empowerment in"}, {"start": "02:16:40", "end": "02:16:46", "text": "this is talking about it and and and"}, {"start": "02:16:44", "end": "02:16:48", "text": "trying to understand them as as"}, {"start": "02:16:46", "end": "02:16:50", "text": "completely as possible. And that's why I"}, {"start": "02:16:48", "end": "02:16:53", "text": "was so interested in in ancient"}, {"start": "02:16:50", "end": "02:16:55", "text": "astronaut theory. Um, you know, you"}, {"start": "02:16:53", "end": "02:16:58", "text": "know, I understand people can make fun"}, {"start": "02:16:55", "end": "02:17:00", "text": "of that show, uh, Ancient Aliens. I"}, {"start": "02:16:58", "end": "02:17:01", "text": "still love the show cuz there's a lot"}, {"start": "02:17:00", "end": "02:17:03", "text": "that they do, right?"}, {"start": "02:17:01", "end": "02:17:05", "text": ">> Yeah. There's a lot to love there."}, {"start": "02:17:03", "end": "02:17:07", "text": ">> Yeah. But anytime they start talking"}, {"start": "02:17:05", "end": "02:17:09", "text": "about, could that be some kind of"}, {"start": "02:17:07", "end": "02:17:10", "text": "portal? You know, this there's a little"}, {"start": "02:17:09", "end": "02:17:12", "text": "cut in the rock and they're calling it a"}, {"start": "02:17:10", "end": "02:17:15", "text": "portal. Like, give me a break. All"}, {"start": "02:17:12", "end": "02:17:17", "text": "right. But they still get a lot right"}, {"start": "02:17:15", "end": "02:17:20", "text": "and I still love the show and I was so"}, {"start": "02:17:17", "end": "02:17:23", "text": "happy that I got to be on the show last"}, {"start": "02:17:20", "end": "02:17:25", "text": "season. That was so cool. Um, even"}, {"start": "02:17:23", "end": "02:17:27", "text": "though they they covered like 2% of my"}, {"start": "02:17:25", "end": "02:17:29", "text": "story. I mean, there's so much I haven't"}, {"start": "02:17:27", "end": "02:17:32", "text": "even told you yet, but it's it's okay. I"}, {"start": "02:17:29", "end": "02:17:34", "text": "mean, I there's there it's everything is"}, {"start": "02:17:32", "end": "02:17:36", "text": "in the book. I'm I'm I'm saving one"}, {"start": "02:17:34", "end": "02:17:37", "text": "thing for myself that I did not put in"}, {"start": "02:17:36", "end": "02:17:38", "text": "the book because it was too disturbing"}, {"start": "02:17:37", "end": "02:17:39", "text": "for me, but"}, {"start": "02:17:38", "end": "02:17:41", "text": ">> Well, um"}, {"start": "02:17:39", "end": "02:17:43", "text": ">> Oh, the arm surgery. We didn't talk"}, {"start": "02:17:41", "end": "02:17:44", "text": "about that. I want to talk about"}, {"start": "02:17:43", "end": "02:17:49", "text": ">> Sure. Yeah, let's talk about it."}, {"start": "02:17:44", "end": "02:17:51", "text": ">> All right. So, in uh 2022, I think it"}, {"start": "02:17:49", "end": "02:17:54", "text": "was July. I I forget I put it in the"}, {"start": "02:17:51", "end": "02:17:56", "text": "book. Um but even that estimate of the"}, {"start": "02:17:54", "end": "02:17:58", "text": "time estimate is an might be an"}, {"start": "02:17:56", "end": "02:18:01", "text": "approximation because I did my best to"}, {"start": "02:17:58", "end": "02:18:03", "text": "reconstruct which dates happened with"}, {"start": "02:18:01", "end": "02:18:06", "text": "which encounters. I did my best. So if"}, {"start": "02:18:03", "end": "02:18:10", "text": "some of them are off I you know I did my"}, {"start": "02:18:06", "end": "02:18:13", "text": "best but um I became aware of pain in my"}, {"start": "02:18:10", "end": "02:18:16", "text": "left arm in my sleep. It it was a black"}, {"start": "02:18:13", "end": "02:18:19", "text": "sleep and I wasn't dreaming. There was"}, {"start": "02:18:16", "end": "02:18:20", "text": "no imagery in the sleep and I became"}, {"start": "02:18:19", "end": "02:18:23", "text": "aware of pain in my left arm. It was"}, {"start": "02:18:20", "end": "02:18:27", "text": "excruciating. It was like a dull ache"}, {"start": "02:18:23", "end": "02:18:31", "text": "capped off by a sharp pain like like you"}, {"start": "02:18:27", "end": "02:18:35", "text": "cut yourself. That kind of a sharp pain"}, {"start": "02:18:31", "end": "02:18:40", "text": "uh combined with a really dull ache. And"}, {"start": "02:18:35", "end": "02:18:41", "text": "uh so I opened my eyes because the pain"}, {"start": "02:18:40", "end": "02:18:44", "text": "was so bad. And the first thing I"}, {"start": "02:18:41", "end": "02:18:46", "text": "noticed is I wasn't in my bedroom."}, {"start": "02:18:44", "end": "02:18:49", "text": "And I look at my feet and I notice I'm"}, {"start": "02:18:46", "end": "02:18:52", "text": "laying on a metal table. Uh Peter gray"}, {"start": "02:18:49", "end": "02:18:56", "text": "metal table. Uh it was about this much"}, {"start": "02:18:52", "end": "02:18:58", "text": "wider than me. And I'd say it was uh"}, {"start": "02:18:56", "end": "02:19:02", "text": "about"}, {"start": "02:18:58", "end": "02:19:04", "text": "6' 5 in long. So it's longer than I was"}, {"start": "02:19:02", "end": "02:19:07", "text": "tall."}, {"start": "02:19:04", "end": "02:19:10", "text": "And um fit for a human."}, {"start": "02:19:07", "end": "02:19:14", "text": ">> Yeah. Exactly. And uh"}, {"start": "02:19:10", "end": "02:19:17", "text": "I I looked down. I noticed so I I knew I"}, {"start": "02:19:14", "end": "02:19:20", "text": "wasn't in my my room and I was in this"}, {"start": "02:19:17", "end": "02:19:23", "text": "strange gray facility and I looked down"}, {"start": "02:19:20", "end": "02:19:27", "text": "at my arm and it's missing from above"}, {"start": "02:19:23", "end": "02:19:29", "text": "the elbow. Just clean off, gone. But the"}, {"start": "02:19:27", "end": "02:19:31", "text": "strangest thing was that there was no"}, {"start": "02:19:29", "end": "02:19:34", "text": "blood on the table next to me, next to"}, {"start": "02:19:31", "end": "02:19:39", "text": "my body. Not a not a single drop of"}, {"start": "02:19:34", "end": "02:19:42", "text": "blood was next to me. And um I"}, {"start": "02:19:39", "end": "02:19:44", "text": "as as entranced as I was and as muted as"}, {"start": "02:19:42", "end": "02:19:46", "text": "my senses were, the pain was"}, {"start": "02:19:44", "end": "02:19:50", "text": "excruciating."}, {"start": "02:19:46", "end": "02:19:52", "text": "But the fear response that you would"}, {"start": "02:19:50", "end": "02:19:54", "text": "naturally have in such an instance was"}, {"start": "02:19:52", "end": "02:19:57", "text": "still gone. I didn't have a fear"}, {"start": "02:19:54", "end": "02:19:59", "text": "response, but I had like a like a a"}, {"start": "02:19:57", "end": "02:20:01", "text": "restrained"}, {"start": "02:19:59", "end": "02:20:03", "text": "panicked awareness."}, {"start": "02:20:01", "end": "02:20:06", "text": ">> It's hard to describe. Like this this"}, {"start": "02:20:03", "end": "02:20:08", "text": "this can't be real. like a dissociation,"}, {"start": "02:20:06", "end": "02:20:10", "text": "like I was dissociated,"}, {"start": "02:20:08", "end": "02:20:13", "text": "you know, with with other encounters."}, {"start": "02:20:10", "end": "02:20:15", "text": "And um so I I looked like I could move"}, {"start": "02:20:13", "end": "02:20:17", "text": "my head again, like in other encounters"}, {"start": "02:20:15", "end": "02:20:19", "text": "where I was paralyzed, I could move my"}, {"start": "02:20:17", "end": "02:20:22", "text": "head, but not my body. And I looked to"}, {"start": "02:20:19", "end": "02:20:24", "text": "my left and further like I'd say about"}, {"start": "02:20:22", "end": "02:20:27", "text": "5t away from the maybe 6 ft away from"}, {"start": "02:20:24", "end": "02:20:30", "text": "the table I was laying on was a metal"}, {"start": "02:20:27", "end": "02:20:32", "text": "cart. Uh I didn't see any wheels or"}, {"start": "02:20:30", "end": "02:20:35", "text": "anything. I just it was a single shaft"}, {"start": "02:20:32", "end": "02:20:39", "text": "holding in the center of a of a metal"}, {"start": "02:20:35", "end": "02:20:40", "text": "table. And uh I assume it was a cart. It"}, {"start": "02:20:39", "end": "02:20:43", "text": "could have been just a table. I don't"}, {"start": "02:20:40", "end": "02:20:45", "text": "know. I don't know if it was mobile, but"}, {"start": "02:20:43", "end": "02:20:47", "text": "uh my arm was on there"}, {"start": "02:20:45", "end": "02:20:49", "text": "and I could see the humorous bone"}, {"start": "02:20:47", "end": "02:20:52", "text": "sticking out from the meat. And there"}, {"start": "02:20:49", "end": "02:20:55", "text": "was no blood, not a drop of blood wasted"}, {"start": "02:20:52", "end": "02:20:57", "text": "around, you know, on that cart uh around"}, {"start": "02:20:55", "end": "02:21:02", "text": "the arm. And and there wasn't even a"}, {"start": "02:20:57", "end": "02:21:05", "text": "drop of blood like on on the tissue"}, {"start": "02:21:02", "end": "02:21:07", "text": "surrounding the cut. It was perfect. It"}, {"start": "02:21:05", "end": "02:21:09", "text": "was perfect. It was like butchered meat."}, {"start": "02:21:07", "end": "02:21:14", "text": "Like you'd bled the thing dry before you"}, {"start": "02:21:09", "end": "02:21:16", "text": "cut it open. And that was my meat."}, {"start": "02:21:14", "end": "02:21:20", "text": ">> I was looking at freshly butchered meat."}, {"start": "02:21:16", "end": "02:21:22", "text": "It was like, you know, I know it sounds,"}, {"start": "02:21:20", "end": "02:21:25", "text": "you know, ridiculous to say it that way,"}, {"start": "02:21:22", "end": "02:21:29", "text": "but it it I I I I just couldn't process"}, {"start": "02:21:25", "end": "02:21:33", "text": "what I was seeing. And um but it hurt so"}, {"start": "02:21:29", "end": "02:21:34", "text": "bad. And um I tried to turn my head to"}, {"start": "02:21:33", "end": "02:21:37", "text": "the right and I and I had difficulty"}, {"start": "02:21:34", "end": "02:21:39", "text": "doing that. Uh I lost consciousness, but"}, {"start": "02:21:37", "end": "02:21:42", "text": "I was aware that there was something to"}, {"start": "02:21:39", "end": "02:21:44", "text": "the right of me. somebody something"}, {"start": "02:21:42", "end": "02:21:46", "text": "there was movement to the right of me"}, {"start": "02:21:44", "end": "02:21:50", "text": "and it was approaching the table when I"}, {"start": "02:21:46", "end": "02:21:53", "text": "passed out again. Hm. I woke up uh and I"}, {"start": "02:21:50", "end": "02:21:56", "text": "was back in my bed at home and my arm"}, {"start": "02:21:53", "end": "02:22:00", "text": "was killing me and the first thing I"}, {"start": "02:21:56", "end": "02:22:02", "text": "look down now it's there like okay why"}, {"start": "02:22:00", "end": "02:22:05", "text": "is it hurt so bad and I look and there's"}, {"start": "02:22:02", "end": "02:22:09", "text": "there's no sutures there's no scarring"}, {"start": "02:22:05", "end": "02:22:11", "text": "nothing but my elbow's kind of swollen"}, {"start": "02:22:09", "end": "02:22:14", "text": "and I'm like all right that that hurts"}, {"start": "02:22:11", "end": "02:22:16", "text": "you know and then um I I got up well"}, {"start": "02:22:14", "end": "02:22:18", "text": "maybe I'll take a hot shower and and"}, {"start": "02:22:16", "end": "02:22:20", "text": "it'll it'll feel better, you know, it'll"}, {"start": "02:22:18", "end": "02:22:22", "text": "like loosen up or something. I take a"}, {"start": "02:22:20", "end": "02:22:25", "text": "hot shower, it just gets worse. And and"}, {"start": "02:22:22", "end": "02:22:27", "text": "within an hour, it's frozen solid at a"}, {"start": "02:22:25", "end": "02:22:31", "text": "90 degree bend. I couldn't move my elbow"}, {"start": "02:22:27", "end": "02:22:34", "text": "for an entire month. Um, but then uh the"}, {"start": "02:22:31", "end": "02:22:35", "text": "interesting thing was that uh you know,"}, {"start": "02:22:34", "end": "02:22:38", "text": "normally how they come every four to 6"}, {"start": "02:22:35", "end": "02:22:42", "text": "weeks. I told you about that. Well, they"}, {"start": "02:22:38", "end": "02:22:44", "text": "came exactly one week later and I woke"}, {"start": "02:22:42", "end": "02:22:48", "text": "up and I again, I wasn't in my room. I"}, {"start": "02:22:44", "end": "02:22:49", "text": "was laying on a a cushioned surface and"}, {"start": "02:22:48", "end": "02:22:53", "text": "somebody was holding my hand, my right"}, {"start": "02:22:49", "end": "02:22:55", "text": "hand, and my left hand arm was was"}, {"start": "02:22:53", "end": "02:22:58", "text": "stretched out to the left. I I made an"}, {"start": "02:22:55", "end": "02:23:02", "text": "illustration of this uh a tall gray was"}, {"start": "02:22:58", "end": "02:23:05", "text": "bending over uh that side, the left side"}, {"start": "02:23:02", "end": "02:23:07", "text": "of my bed. My bed. I say my bed, but it"}, {"start": "02:23:05", "end": "02:23:09", "text": "was like the cushion. I was it it was uh"}, {"start": "02:23:07", "end": "02:23:12", "text": "covered in like a tight white canvas"}, {"start": "02:23:09", "end": "02:23:15", "text": "like a soft white canvas is it was the"}, {"start": "02:23:12", "end": "02:23:16", "text": "closest I could describe it. Uh it"}, {"start": "02:23:15", "end": "02:23:20", "text": "wasn't like sheets. There was no top"}, {"start": "02:23:16", "end": "02:23:23", "text": "sheet or it was just a just a fabric"}, {"start": "02:23:20", "end": "02:23:26", "text": "cover of some kind tight like like it"}, {"start": "02:23:23", "end": "02:23:28", "text": "was part of the cushion. And so, um,"}, {"start": "02:23:26", "end": "02:23:32", "text": "this tall gray was was leaning over that"}, {"start": "02:23:28", "end": "02:23:34", "text": "side of the bed or cushion and he had he"}, {"start": "02:23:32", "end": "02:23:36", "text": "was running his hands up and down the"}, {"start": "02:23:34", "end": "02:23:40", "text": "length of my arm and he was focusing"}, {"start": "02:23:36", "end": "02:23:44", "text": "mostly over the elbow."}, {"start": "02:23:40", "end": "02:23:44", "text": "Excuse me. And um,"}, {"start": "02:23:44", "end": "02:23:48", "text": "while he was doing that, I was being"}, {"start": "02:23:46", "end": "02:23:51", "text": "distracted by somebody holding my right"}, {"start": "02:23:48", "end": "02:23:54", "text": "hand. And I look and I noticed a pair of"}, {"start": "02:23:51", "end": "02:23:58", "text": "feet that came only down to my knees."}, {"start": "02:23:54", "end": "02:24:00", "text": "That was kind of weird. And then"}, {"start": "02:23:58", "end": "02:24:04", "text": "I looked to the left"}, {"start": "02:24:00", "end": "02:24:08", "text": "and I perceived it to be a young woman"}, {"start": "02:24:04", "end": "02:24:11", "text": "or maybe a a young girl holding my hand"}, {"start": "02:24:08", "end": "02:24:14", "text": "and she said, \"Uh, she looked at me, but"}, {"start": "02:24:11", "end": "02:24:16", "text": "it was a short gray and and she said,"}, {"start": "02:24:14", "end": "02:24:18", "text": "\"Do you have something you want to tell"}, {"start": "02:24:16", "end": "02:24:20", "text": "me?\""}, {"start": "02:24:18", "end": "02:24:22", "text": "I couldn't think of anything. I was"}, {"start": "02:24:20", "end": "02:24:27", "text": "confused by the question."}, {"start": "02:24:22", "end": "02:24:29", "text": "And um and I said no. Um I think I said"}, {"start": "02:24:27", "end": "02:24:31", "text": "something like I thought she was"}, {"start": "02:24:29", "end": "02:24:33", "text": "flirting with me. So I I said something"}, {"start": "02:24:31", "end": "02:24:35", "text": "like uh well I'm not married or"}, {"start": "02:24:33", "end": "02:24:37", "text": "anything. It's a strange thing to say"}, {"start": "02:24:35", "end": "02:24:39", "text": "but I I was so out of it. I was so"}, {"start": "02:24:37", "end": "02:24:42", "text": "confused."}, {"start": "02:24:39", "end": "02:24:44", "text": "Um and then I went unconscious"}, {"start": "02:24:42", "end": "02:24:47", "text": "and then I woke up. I was back at home"}, {"start": "02:24:44", "end": "02:24:50", "text": "again. Uh and then a week later, another"}, {"start": "02:24:47", "end": "02:24:52", "text": "encounter where I woke up in a standing"}, {"start": "02:24:50", "end": "02:24:55", "text": "position again in a gray room and there"}, {"start": "02:24:52", "end": "02:24:57", "text": "was a very tall gray standing over me."}, {"start": "02:24:55", "end": "02:24:59", "text": "And uh I was unsteady on my feet cuz I"}, {"start": "02:24:57", "end": "02:25:03", "text": "just became conscious on in a standing"}, {"start": "02:24:59", "end": "02:25:07", "text": "position and um being so unsteady it"}, {"start": "02:25:03", "end": "02:25:09", "text": "guided me by my shoulders to a railing"}, {"start": "02:25:07", "end": "02:25:10", "text": "along the wall. It reminded me of the"}, {"start": "02:25:09", "end": "02:25:12", "text": "kind of railing you would see in a dance"}, {"start": "02:25:10", "end": "02:25:14", "text": "studio, like a belly"}, {"start": "02:25:12", "end": "02:25:18", "text": ">> would use when they're doing their"}, {"start": "02:25:14", "end": "02:25:20", "text": "stretches and things. Um, and so I held"}, {"start": "02:25:18", "end": "02:25:23", "text": "on to that to steady myself and then"}, {"start": "02:25:20", "end": "02:25:25", "text": "what it did was it grabbed my shoulders"}, {"start": "02:25:23", "end": "02:25:30", "text": "again and turned me toward it, the tall"}, {"start": "02:25:25", "end": "02:25:33", "text": "gray, and then um it it grabbed my left"}, {"start": "02:25:30", "end": "02:25:36", "text": "arm and was running its hands again over"}, {"start": "02:25:33", "end": "02:25:39", "text": "my elbow. And in both of these"}, {"start": "02:25:36", "end": "02:25:42", "text": "instances, I had a slightly less"}, {"start": "02:25:39", "end": "02:25:45", "text": "inflammation the next morning and"}, {"start": "02:25:42", "end": "02:25:46", "text": "slightly better range of motion, but it"}, {"start": "02:25:45", "end": "02:25:48", "text": "didn't really get better until a full"}, {"start": "02:25:46", "end": "02:25:49", "text": "month had gone by. It's like ET"}, {"start": "02:25:48", "end": "02:25:51", "text": "physiootherapy"}, {"start": "02:25:49", "end": "02:25:53", "text": ">> or something like maybe they were"}, {"start": "02:25:51", "end": "02:25:55", "text": "healing it in some way."}, {"start": "02:25:53", "end": "02:25:58", "text": ">> And your impression of of the reason for"}, {"start": "02:25:55", "end": "02:26:00", "text": "this was I know we spoke last night was"}, {"start": "02:25:58", "end": "02:26:02", "text": ">> bone bone marrow. Yeah, I think they"}, {"start": "02:26:00", "end": "02:26:04", "text": "took bone because you looked you looked"}, {"start": "02:26:02", "end": "02:26:05", "text": "at symptoms of what that would feel like"}, {"start": "02:26:04", "end": "02:26:07", "text": "and what the recovery was like and it"}, {"start": "02:26:05", "end": "02:26:10", "text": "was very similar. You found out?"}, {"start": "02:26:07", "end": "02:26:12", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. I actually used chat GPT to"}, {"start": "02:26:10", "end": "02:26:14", "text": "uh to tell me what would be if this"}, {"start": "02:26:12", "end": "02:26:17", "text": "happened if we say this actually"}, {"start": "02:26:14", "end": "02:26:18", "text": "happened. Sure. If I'm if I'm not like,"}, {"start": "02:26:17", "end": "02:26:19", "text": "you know, out of my mind on this thing."}, {"start": "02:26:18", "end": "02:26:22", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "02:26:19", "end": "02:26:24", "text": ">> Uh if if my suspicion that bone marrow"}, {"start": "02:26:22", "end": "02:26:26", "text": "was extracted from my humorous bone, my"}, {"start": "02:26:24", "end": "02:26:27", "text": "left humorous bone, what would the"}, {"start": "02:26:26", "end": "02:26:28", "text": "symptoms be?"}, {"start": "02:26:27", "end": "02:26:29", "text": ">> What would recovery be like? quot with"}, {"start": "02:26:28", "end": "02:26:31", "text": "all that. Yeah."}, {"start": "02:26:29", "end": "02:26:33", "text": ">> And it described exactly what I"}, {"start": "02:26:31", "end": "02:26:36", "text": "experienced there. There'd be pain"}, {"start": "02:26:33", "end": "02:26:38", "text": "radiating into the joint uh until the"}, {"start": "02:26:36", "end": "02:26:39", "text": "marrow had grown back and there'd be"}, {"start": "02:26:38", "end": "02:26:40", "text": "swelling at the joint. Do"}, {"start": "02:26:39", "end": "02:26:44", "text": ">> you ever get it checked out?"}, {"start": "02:26:40", "end": "02:26:47", "text": ">> Uh I had my girlfriend at the time uh do"}, {"start": "02:26:44", "end": "02:26:49", "text": "an X-ray and I completely forgot that I"}, {"start": "02:26:47", "end": "02:26:51", "text": "had done an X-ray. So when I wrote the"}, {"start": "02:26:49", "end": "02:26:53", "text": "book, I'd forgotten I'd done the X-ray."}, {"start": "02:26:51", "end": "02:26:56", "text": ">> She said it showed nothing. There was no"}, {"start": "02:26:53", "end": "02:26:58", "text": "seam on the bone, like no cut."}, {"start": "02:26:56", "end": "02:27:00", "text": ">> Uh it was nothing unusual. So, if it had"}, {"start": "02:26:58", "end": "02:27:02", "text": "been cut, whatever they did to put me"}, {"start": "02:27:00", "end": "02:27:05", "text": "back together was perfect, except for"}, {"start": "02:27:02", "end": "02:27:08", "text": "the fact that there was inflammation."}, {"start": "02:27:05", "end": "02:27:12", "text": "Um, she said she said there's some minor"}, {"start": "02:27:08", "end": "02:27:14", "text": "um I I had minor uh but nothing nothing"}, {"start": "02:27:12", "end": "02:27:17", "text": "to be worried about. Uh a little bit of"}, {"start": "02:27:14", "end": "02:27:17", "text": "u uh arthritis,"}, {"start": "02:27:17", "end": "02:27:20", "text": ">> okay?"}, {"start": "02:27:17", "end": "02:27:22", "text": ">> And but uh it's the same thing in this"}, {"start": "02:27:20", "end": "02:27:23", "text": "joint, but it only flares up if I eat"}, {"start": "02:27:22", "end": "02:27:25", "text": "bad food."}, {"start": "02:27:23", "end": "02:27:27", "text": ">> Okay? you know. Um, but I'm at that age"}, {"start": "02:27:25", "end": "02:27:29", "text": "where I'm starting to get a tiny little"}, {"start": "02:27:27", "end": "02:27:31", "text": "bit of arthritis in some of my joints,"}, {"start": "02:27:29", "end": "02:27:34", "text": "but nothing like this. Nothing like what"}, {"start": "02:27:31", "end": "02:27:37", "text": "happened with my left arm. That was and"}, {"start": "02:27:34", "end": "02:27:39", "text": "it it it was awaking. Like, as I'm"}, {"start": "02:27:37", "end": "02:27:41", "text": "talking to you, I know I'm not dreaming"}, {"start": "02:27:39", "end": "02:27:43", "text": "you right now. You're not dreaming me"}, {"start": "02:27:41", "end": "02:27:43", "text": "right now. This is what it feels like to"}, {"start": "02:27:43", "end": "02:27:44", "text": "be awake."}, {"start": "02:27:43", "end": "02:27:45", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "02:27:44", "end": "02:27:47", "text": ">> Well,"}, {"start": "02:27:45", "end": "02:27:51", "text": ">> yeah. It's it's why I didn't bring up,"}, {"start": "02:27:47", "end": "02:27:55", "text": "you know, the"}, {"start": "02:27:51", "end": "02:27:56", "text": "sleep paralysis or the because so many"}, {"start": "02:27:55", "end": "02:27:57", "text": "people's head goes to that, but like you"}, {"start": "02:27:56", "end": "02:27:58", "text": "speak to"}, {"start": "02:27:57", "end": "02:28:01", "text": ">> that's a fair assumption. It is a fair"}, {"start": "02:27:58", "end": "02:28:03", "text": "assumption for for some"}, {"start": "02:28:01", "end": "02:28:05", "text": ">> u because they are there are"}, {"start": "02:28:03", "end": "02:28:08", "text": "similarities to to draw lines between"}, {"start": "02:28:05", "end": "02:28:11", "text": "sleep paralysis especially with you wake"}, {"start": "02:28:08", "end": "02:28:13", "text": "it's at night you're up you're paralyzed"}, {"start": "02:28:11", "end": "02:28:15", "text": "it feels real like all of these are"}, {"start": "02:28:13", "end": "02:28:16", "text": "symptoms of sleep paralysis but"}, {"start": "02:28:15", "end": "02:28:19", "text": "objective"}, {"start": "02:28:16", "end": "02:28:21", "text": "reality you know I've had out-of- body"}, {"start": "02:28:19", "end": "02:28:26", "text": "experiences and I can tell you that"}, {"start": "02:28:21", "end": "02:28:28", "text": "those were not awake experiences"}, {"start": "02:28:26", "end": "02:28:30", "text": "but they weren't lucid dreams either."}, {"start": "02:28:28", "end": "02:28:33", "text": "And so, you know, I don't know if I'm"}, {"start": "02:28:30", "end": "02:28:35", "text": "describing a new type of dream that we"}, {"start": "02:28:33", "end": "02:28:37", "text": "haven't really defined yet."}, {"start": "02:28:35", "end": "02:28:39", "text": ">> I've I've had an obbe, but only because"}, {"start": "02:28:37", "end": "02:28:40", "text": "I was training myself to have one."}, {"start": "02:28:39", "end": "02:28:41", "text": ">> Yeah. So, you mentioned in the book"}, {"start": "02:28:40", "end": "02:28:42", "text": ">> in 1995."}, {"start": "02:28:41", "end": "02:28:45", "text": ">> It scared you."}, {"start": "02:28:42", "end": "02:28:46", "text": ">> It scared me. I I felt like uh Did you"}, {"start": "02:28:45", "end": "02:28:47", "text": "see the movie Ghost?"}, {"start": "02:28:46", "end": "02:28:49", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "02:28:47", "end": "02:28:50", "text": ">> Where where when when"}, {"start": "02:28:49", "end": "02:28:52", "text": ">> when you walk through a ghost?"}, {"start": "02:28:50", "end": "02:28:53", "text": ">> When you when you'd walk through a ghost"}, {"start": "02:28:52", "end": "02:28:56", "text": "or walk through a wall, there's like"}, {"start": "02:28:53", "end": "02:28:58", "text": "this like tearing velcro sound like a"}, {"start": "02:28:56", "end": "02:28:59", "text": ">> a whoosh. Okay."}, {"start": "02:28:58", "end": "02:29:02", "text": ">> I had that same sound."}, {"start": "02:28:59", "end": "02:29:05", "text": ">> That's what I felt when when um I was"}, {"start": "02:29:02", "end": "02:29:08", "text": "separating. I I had a book that was on"}, {"start": "02:29:05", "end": "02:29:11", "text": "my father's shelf. I borrowed it. It was"}, {"start": "02:29:08", "end": "02:29:13", "text": "um I I think his father was into uh some"}, {"start": "02:29:11", "end": "02:29:15", "text": "of that"}, {"start": "02:29:13", "end": "02:29:17", "text": "mystical cult, but you'd never talk"}, {"start": "02:29:15", "end": "02:29:19", "text": "about it cuz he's such a scientific guy."}, {"start": "02:29:17", "end": "02:29:20", "text": "But he he was a highranking Mason. And I"}, {"start": "02:29:19", "end": "02:29:24", "text": "don't I don't know if they're they're"}, {"start": "02:29:20", "end": "02:29:26", "text": "into that stuff, but um but it was"}, {"start": "02:29:24", "end": "02:29:28", "text": "called uh Projection of the Astral Body"}, {"start": "02:29:26", "end": "02:29:30", "text": "by Carrington and Maldun. And uh"}, {"start": "02:29:28", "end": "02:29:34", "text": "originally written in 1929, but the copy"}, {"start": "02:29:30", "end": "02:29:36", "text": "that I had was a 1947 reprint. And I"}, {"start": "02:29:34", "end": "02:29:38", "text": "studied it in 1995. And I was training"}, {"start": "02:29:36", "end": "02:29:40", "text": "myself to wake up at the same time every"}, {"start": "02:29:38", "end": "02:29:44", "text": "night until I didn't need the alarm"}, {"start": "02:29:40", "end": "02:29:47", "text": "anymore. And then you'd start to wake up"}, {"start": "02:29:44", "end": "02:29:50", "text": "in your sleep in a lucid state uh as a"}, {"start": "02:29:47", "end": "02:29:52", "text": "result of this this disciplined period"}, {"start": "02:29:50", "end": "02:29:55", "text": "of waking up at the same time and and"}, {"start": "02:29:52", "end": "02:29:56", "text": "then you could introduce a suggestion to"}, {"start": "02:29:55", "end": "02:29:58", "text": "your mind like all right I want to do"}, {"start": "02:29:56", "end": "02:30:00", "text": "this thing where I separate from my"}, {"start": "02:29:58", "end": "02:30:02", "text": "body. I wanted to try it cuz I heard"}, {"start": "02:30:00", "end": "02:30:03", "text": "about it and it just seemed like a"}, {"start": "02:30:02", "end": "02:30:08", "text": "interesting thing to do and I was living"}, {"start": "02:30:03", "end": "02:30:09", "text": "alone and um and I succeeded on two"}, {"start": "02:30:08", "end": "02:30:11", "text": "occasions. One time I woke up and the"}, {"start": "02:30:09", "end": "02:30:14", "text": "ceiling was in my face and I freaked out"}, {"start": "02:30:11", "end": "02:30:17", "text": "and I snapped back and I was instantly"}, {"start": "02:30:14", "end": "02:30:19", "text": "fully awake. Um, and then another time I"}, {"start": "02:30:17", "end": "02:30:21", "text": "was laying on my right side and I felt"}, {"start": "02:30:19", "end": "02:30:24", "text": "myself"}, {"start": "02:30:21", "end": "02:30:27", "text": "separating out parallel to my body out"}, {"start": "02:30:24", "end": "02:30:29", "text": "away from the bed into the room and I"}, {"start": "02:30:27", "end": "02:30:31", "text": "just felt so vulnerable anytime I'd"}, {"start": "02:30:29", "end": "02:30:33", "text": "separated that I'd freak out and snap"}, {"start": "02:30:31", "end": "02:30:35", "text": "back. I don't ever want to do it again."}, {"start": "02:30:33", "end": "02:30:37", "text": "Yeah, it happened to me um a few times"}, {"start": "02:30:35", "end": "02:30:39", "text": "involuntarily"}, {"start": "02:30:37", "end": "02:30:40", "text": "and it was one of the most terrifying"}, {"start": "02:30:39", "end": "02:30:41", "text": "experiences of my life."}, {"start": "02:30:40", "end": "02:30:44", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "02:30:41", "end": "02:30:46", "text": ">> Uh but instantly after it happened I was"}, {"start": "02:30:44", "end": "02:30:48", "text": "like I got I got to do that again. I"}, {"start": "02:30:46", "end": "02:30:50", "text": "want to do that again. Like"}, {"start": "02:30:48", "end": "02:30:50", "text": ">> I won't do it again. It it it just felt"}, {"start": "02:30:50", "end": "02:30:53", "text": "too vulnerable."}, {"start": "02:30:50", "end": "02:30:57", "text": ">> Oh, it was so scary. And you feel like"}, {"start": "02:30:53", "end": "02:30:59", "text": "this you feel this presence"}, {"start": "02:30:57", "end": "02:31:00", "text": "not of a thing but like that you're not"}, {"start": "02:30:59", "end": "02:31:02", "text": "supposed to be there. Like that's what I"}, {"start": "02:31:00", "end": "02:31:06", "text": "got from it. I was like, \"Oh, I'm in a"}, {"start": "02:31:02", "end": "02:31:08", "text": "space in some liinal existence that I am"}, {"start": "02:31:06", "end": "02:31:11", "text": "unfamiliar with. Although everything"}, {"start": "02:31:08", "end": "02:31:12", "text": "looks familiar, this isn't this I'm I'm"}, {"start": "02:31:11", "end": "02:31:14", "text": "not I'm not in my room.\""}, {"start": "02:31:12", "end": "02:31:14", "text": ">> I felt like I could be attacked."}, {"start": "02:31:14", "end": "02:31:16", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"start": "02:31:14", "end": "02:31:18", "text": ">> Yeah. And and I and I just didn't like"}, {"start": "02:31:16", "end": "02:31:20", "text": "that feeling."}, {"start": "02:31:18", "end": "02:31:20", "text": ">> Yeah. You're in a new space."}, {"start": "02:31:20", "end": "02:31:23", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "02:31:20", "end": "02:31:24", "text": ">> Um so I get that. But then I I pursued"}, {"start": "02:31:23", "end": "02:31:26", "text": "it through the gateway process and ended"}, {"start": "02:31:24", "end": "02:31:29", "text": "up, you know, meditating 4 months"}, {"start": "02:31:26", "end": "02:31:30", "text": "straight, 1 hour a day at like 4:30 in"}, {"start": "02:31:29", "end": "02:31:32", "text": "the morning and ended up leaving my body"}, {"start": "02:31:30", "end": "02:31:34", "text": "a whole bunch of times after that."}, {"start": "02:31:32", "end": "02:31:36", "text": ">> I'm not like this, you know, into"}, {"start": "02:31:34", "end": "02:31:40", "text": "crystals and and and and higher"}, {"start": "02:31:36", "end": "02:31:42", "text": "consciousness and the CE5 contact and"}, {"start": "02:31:40", "end": "02:31:44", "text": "kumbaya and meditating in Sedona,"}, {"start": "02:31:42", "end": "02:31:47", "text": "Arizona. I'm not into all that stuff."}, {"start": "02:31:44", "end": "02:31:50", "text": ">> U but what what I'm saying is that like"}, {"start": "02:31:47", "end": "02:31:52", "text": "your experience from having an OBBE"}, {"start": "02:31:50", "end": "02:31:54", "text": "Yeah. to"}, {"start": "02:31:52", "end": "02:31:58", "text": "the objective reality that you describe"}, {"start": "02:31:54", "end": "02:32:02", "text": "with the ET and the tall grays"}, {"start": "02:31:58", "end": "02:32:03", "text": "are different. They are not the same"}, {"start": "02:32:02", "end": "02:32:05", "text": "feeling. Yeah. Okay."}, {"start": "02:32:03", "end": "02:32:08", "text": ">> It it it's like it's like I said, it's"}, {"start": "02:32:05", "end": "02:32:09", "text": "like being it's it's like"}, {"start": "02:32:08", "end": "02:32:11", "text": ">> because sleep paralysis is much closer"}, {"start": "02:32:09", "end": "02:32:14", "text": "to the obbe feeling."}, {"start": "02:32:11", "end": "02:32:16", "text": ">> Right. Right. And um I would say that uh"}, {"start": "02:32:14", "end": "02:32:19", "text": "the closest thing to the entrance that"}, {"start": "02:32:16", "end": "02:32:23", "text": "you experience during abduction is more"}, {"start": "02:32:19", "end": "02:32:25", "text": "similar to uh the dissociation"}, {"start": "02:32:23", "end": "02:32:26", "text": "like your disconnect when when you're"}, {"start": "02:32:25", "end": "02:32:28", "text": "you're going through something"}, {"start": "02:32:26", "end": "02:32:30", "text": "traumatic. You're disconnecting from it"}, {"start": "02:32:28", "end": "02:32:31", "text": "and you're seeing everything in slow"}, {"start": "02:32:30", "end": "02:32:33", "text": "motion"}, {"start": "02:32:31", "end": "02:32:35", "text": ">> because your mind is trying to stay"}, {"start": "02:32:33", "end": "02:32:38", "text": "ahead of this thing that's happening to"}, {"start": "02:32:35", "end": "02:32:39", "text": "you that you don't want to accept. Is"}, {"start": "02:32:38", "end": "02:32:41", "text": "there a chance that what was happening"}, {"start": "02:32:39", "end": "02:32:43", "text": "to you was happening to the non-physical"}, {"start": "02:32:41", "end": "02:32:44", "text": "you? Do you ever consider that? Because"}, {"start": "02:32:43", "end": "02:32:47", "text": "there is that too with these"}, {"start": "02:32:44", "end": "02:32:49", "text": ">> No, I had symptoms afterwards. I you"}, {"start": "02:32:47", "end": "02:32:50", "text": "know, and and um"}, {"start": "02:32:49", "end": "02:32:52", "text": ">> But you never consider that any of these"}, {"start": "02:32:50", "end": "02:32:53", "text": "abductions might have been a"}, {"start": "02:32:52", "end": "02:32:57", "text": "non-physical abduction."}, {"start": "02:32:53", "end": "02:33:00", "text": ">> No, they were always physical. And"}, {"start": "02:32:57", "end": "02:33:01", "text": "one time one time uh I was forced to"}, {"start": "02:33:00", "end": "02:33:04", "text": "have intercourse and I didn't talk about"}, {"start": "02:33:01", "end": "02:33:06", "text": "this in the book. It it bothered me, but"}, {"start": "02:33:04", "end": "02:33:09", "text": "uh you you felt everything."}, {"start": "02:33:06", "end": "02:33:12", "text": ">> Yeah. But you had no control over your"}, {"start": "02:33:09", "end": "02:33:14", "text": "actions, what you were doing. Um, and"}, {"start": "02:33:12", "end": "02:33:17", "text": "despite like this this horrific feeling"}, {"start": "02:33:14", "end": "02:33:19", "text": "like what am I doing to this thing, this"}, {"start": "02:33:17", "end": "02:33:22", "text": "person"}, {"start": "02:33:19", "end": "02:33:23", "text": "you you just but you know this little"}, {"start": "02:33:22", "end": "02:33:25", "text": "voice. No, it's okay that you're doing"}, {"start": "02:33:23", "end": "02:33:28", "text": "this. It's okay that you but you know"}, {"start": "02:33:25", "end": "02:33:29", "text": "you're just horrified and I'm trying to"}, {"start": "02:33:28", "end": "02:33:30", "text": "remember the face of the person."}, {"start": "02:33:29", "end": "02:33:33", "text": ">> It's real."}, {"start": "02:33:30", "end": "02:33:36", "text": ">> It's real. But but it's uh but but there"}, {"start": "02:33:33", "end": "02:33:38", "text": "was like uh"}, {"start": "02:33:36", "end": "02:33:41", "text": "there was this imposition this screen"}, {"start": "02:33:38", "end": "02:33:43", "text": "memory was was working that time and and"}, {"start": "02:33:41", "end": "02:33:45", "text": "I couldn't remember what I was actually"}, {"start": "02:33:43", "end": "02:33:47", "text": "seeing but but I but the"}, {"start": "02:33:45", "end": "02:33:50", "text": ">> the physical sensation down below was"}, {"start": "02:33:47", "end": "02:33:52", "text": "real. Um oh by the way um there's"}, {"start": "02:33:50", "end": "02:33:54", "text": "something I did want to talk about like"}, {"start": "02:33:52", "end": "02:33:56", "text": "the the routine semen collection the the"}, {"start": "02:33:54", "end": "02:34:00", "text": "sample collection we didn't talk about"}, {"start": "02:33:56", "end": "02:34:02", "text": "that. Um, there was one encounter I had"}, {"start": "02:34:00", "end": "02:34:03", "text": "where they used a device on me."}, {"start": "02:34:02", "end": "02:34:05", "text": ">> That's right. And you brought that."}, {"start": "02:34:03", "end": "02:34:07", "text": ">> I saw it. Yeah. So, I recreated I I did"}, {"start": "02:34:05", "end": "02:34:10", "text": "a 3D print of it and you could take"}, {"start": "02:34:07", "end": "02:34:12", "text": "pictures of it or whatever, but um it it"}, {"start": "02:34:10", "end": "02:34:15", "text": "looked like a three-sided uh pyramidal"}, {"start": "02:34:12", "end": "02:34:19", "text": "cone and they place it down over your"}, {"start": "02:34:15", "end": "02:34:22", "text": "your genitals and uh and it's instant"}, {"start": "02:34:19", "end": "02:34:26", "text": "extraction. I don't remember the feeling"}, {"start": "02:34:22", "end": "02:34:29", "text": "down there during the extraction. Uh but"}, {"start": "02:34:26", "end": "02:34:31", "text": "I was only awake for maybe 15 seconds"}, {"start": "02:34:29", "end": "02:34:33", "text": "during that encounter. But uh there was"}, {"start": "02:34:31", "end": "02:34:37", "text": "another screen memory during that"}, {"start": "02:34:33", "end": "02:34:40", "text": "collection where um the the short gray"}, {"start": "02:34:37", "end": "02:34:44", "text": "that was uh crawling onto my bed at the"}, {"start": "02:34:40", "end": "02:34:47", "text": "foot of my bed up toward me um briefly"}, {"start": "02:34:44", "end": "02:34:50", "text": "looked like a very ugly woman that that"}, {"start": "02:34:47", "end": "02:34:52", "text": "resembled somebody I knew. uh asking me"}, {"start": "02:34:50", "end": "02:34:53", "text": "if I wanted"}, {"start": "02:34:52", "end": "02:34:56", "text": ">> oral felacia"}, {"start": "02:34:53", "end": "02:34:57", "text": ">> right down there. And uh I I feel I'm"}, {"start": "02:34:56", "end": "02:35:01", "text": "embarrassed saying it."}, {"start": "02:34:57", "end": "02:35:04", "text": ">> Uh but yeah, if I wanted that and I was"}, {"start": "02:35:01", "end": "02:35:06", "text": "I was confused. I I was kind of out of"}, {"start": "02:35:04", "end": "02:35:07", "text": "it. And and who doesn't like that sort"}, {"start": "02:35:06", "end": "02:35:12", "text": "of thing? So I'm like I said, sure,"}, {"start": "02:35:07", "end": "02:35:15", "text": "okay. But then when this creature, you"}, {"start": "02:35:12", "end": "02:35:17", "text": "know, was about to make as if they were"}, {"start": "02:35:15", "end": "02:35:19", "text": "going to put their head down there, uh,"}, {"start": "02:35:17", "end": "02:35:22", "text": "they pulled their head back and had this"}, {"start": "02:35:19", "end": "02:35:24", "text": "this cup, this black pyramidal triangle"}, {"start": "02:35:22", "end": "02:35:26", "text": "thing that it was shaped like a an"}, {"start": "02:35:24", "end": "02:35:29", "text": "athletic cup on the open end, put it on"}, {"start": "02:35:26", "end": "02:35:32", "text": "top of me down there, and uh,"}, {"start": "02:35:29", "end": "02:35:33", "text": ">> instant extraction. Yeah. It just it"}, {"start": "02:35:32", "end": "02:35:36", "text": "just whatever it does to the nerves down"}, {"start": "02:35:33", "end": "02:35:40", "text": "there, it just manipulates the nerves,"}, {"start": "02:35:36", "end": "02:35:40", "text": "causes the the ejaculate and it just"}, {"start": "02:35:40", "end": "02:35:41", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "02:35:40", "end": "02:35:43", "text": ">> wild."}, {"start": "02:35:41", "end": "02:35:45", "text": ">> So that's what they use. So"}, {"start": "02:35:43", "end": "02:35:47", "text": ">> as far as I know, I'm the only person"}, {"start": "02:35:45", "end": "02:35:48", "text": "who's ever like described the actual"}, {"start": "02:35:47", "end": "02:35:51", "text": "device"}, {"start": "02:35:48", "end": "02:35:52", "text": ">> uh or at least that particular Yeah. At"}, {"start": "02:35:51", "end": "02:35:54", "text": "least one of them."}, {"start": "02:35:52", "end": "02:35:55", "text": ">> Yeah. Maybe there's other types that"}, {"start": "02:35:54", "end": "02:35:58", "text": "they use, but but the one that they used"}, {"start": "02:35:55", "end": "02:36:01", "text": "on me was a a black three-sided"}, {"start": "02:35:58", "end": "02:36:03", "text": "pyramidal cone and um you know, and and"}, {"start": "02:36:01", "end": "02:36:05", "text": "it uh it was like slightly truncated at"}, {"start": "02:36:03", "end": "02:36:07", "text": "the top. It wasn't a sharp point. It was"}, {"start": "02:36:05", "end": "02:36:10", "text": "like flat at the top. Mhm."}, {"start": "02:36:07", "end": "02:36:11", "text": ">> But but uh but mostly Yeah."}, {"start": "02:36:10", "end": "02:36:13", "text": ">> Uh"}, {"start": "02:36:11", "end": "02:36:15", "text": ">> nothing attached to it."}, {"start": "02:36:13", "end": "02:36:17", "text": ">> No, it was just uh self-contained."}, {"start": "02:36:15", "end": "02:36:18", "text": ">> Yeah. Whatever technology it is, it's"}, {"start": "02:36:17", "end": "02:36:19", "text": "pretty advanced."}, {"start": "02:36:18", "end": "02:36:21", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "02:36:19", "end": "02:36:23", "text": "That's wild."}, {"start": "02:36:21", "end": "02:36:25", "text": ">> Well, thanks for sharing that. I"}, {"start": "02:36:23", "end": "02:36:26", "text": "appreciate I appreciate you opening up"}, {"start": "02:36:25", "end": "02:36:28", "text": "about all that. I think, you know, it's"}, {"start": "02:36:26", "end": "02:36:29", "text": "obviously something that's difficult to"}, {"start": "02:36:28", "end": "02:36:30", "text": "talk about and and"}, {"start": "02:36:29", "end": "02:36:32", "text": ">> I think we have to talk about it."}, {"start": "02:36:30", "end": "02:36:34", "text": ">> Well, I think so, too. You know, we had"}, {"start": "02:36:32", "end": "02:36:35", "text": "um I had a gentleman here, uh Peter"}, {"start": "02:36:34", "end": "02:36:37", "text": "Curry, if you if you haven't watched the"}, {"start": "02:36:35", "end": "02:36:38", "text": "interview or his story, and I spoke to"}, {"start": "02:36:37", "end": "02:36:40", "text": "you a little bit about one of his"}, {"start": "02:36:38", "end": "02:36:41", "text": "encounters with, you know, the hair of"}, {"start": "02:36:40", "end": "02:36:45", "text": "the alien, but he's also had encounters"}, {"start": "02:36:41", "end": "02:36:48", "text": "with grays and and he's been also um you"}, {"start": "02:36:45", "end": "02:36:50", "text": "know, according to him, forcibly imposed"}, {"start": "02:36:48", "end": "02:36:51", "text": "on another person. Um"}, {"start": "02:36:50", "end": "02:36:53", "text": ">> that's horrific. I that that's"}, {"start": "02:36:51", "end": "02:36:55", "text": ">> So, he's had all these very similar"}, {"start": "02:36:53", "end": "02:36:57", "text": "encounters. He's been introduced to his"}, {"start": "02:36:55", "end": "02:36:57", "text": "offspring, you know, same"}, {"start": "02:36:57", "end": "02:36:59", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "02:36:57", "end": "02:37:00", "text": ">> same things that you're saying. And"}, {"start": "02:36:59", "end": "02:37:01", "text": "there's so many"}, {"start": "02:37:00", "end": "02:37:02", "text": ">> I'd like to talk to him."}, {"start": "02:37:01", "end": "02:37:04", "text": ">> Yeah, I'll I'll put you in touch with"}, {"start": "02:37:02", "end": "02:37:05", "text": "Peter. He's a very friendly, very nice"}, {"start": "02:37:04", "end": "02:37:06", "text": "guy and very open. And uh you know, it's"}, {"start": "02:37:05", "end": "02:37:09", "text": "very difficult for him to talk about"}, {"start": "02:37:06", "end": "02:37:12", "text": "this stuff too because on one hand it is"}, {"start": "02:37:09", "end": "02:37:15", "text": "not only personal, obviously the most"}, {"start": "02:37:12", "end": "02:37:18", "text": "personal, but on the other hand, it is"}, {"start": "02:37:15", "end": "02:37:19", "text": ">> extremely open to ridicule. Um and and"}, {"start": "02:37:18", "end": "02:37:22", "text": "and it's one of those things that like"}, {"start": "02:37:19", "end": "02:37:24", "text": "obviously there are jokes here. You"}, {"start": "02:37:22", "end": "02:37:27", "text": "know, there obviously you're a smart"}, {"start": "02:37:24", "end": "02:37:30", "text": "guy. We can see the jokes here. Um but"}, {"start": "02:37:27", "end": "02:37:30", "text": "those are just comfort mechanisms,"}, {"start": "02:37:30", "end": "02:37:31", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "02:37:30", "end": "02:37:32", "text": ">> You know that"}, {"start": "02:37:31", "end": "02:37:33", "text": ">> people don't want to accept something"}, {"start": "02:37:32", "end": "02:37:34", "text": "that would change their paradigm for"}, {"start": "02:37:33", "end": "02:37:36", "text": "them."}, {"start": "02:37:34", "end": "02:37:37", "text": ">> Exactly. And so naturally you go to that"}, {"start": "02:37:36", "end": "02:37:40", "text": "as a defense mechanism."}, {"start": "02:37:37", "end": "02:37:41", "text": ">> And let's just set aside any any uh"}, {"start": "02:37:40", "end": "02:37:42", "text": "suggestion that I'm doing this to sell a"}, {"start": "02:37:41", "end": "02:37:43", "text": "book."}, {"start": "02:37:42", "end": "02:37:45", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "02:37:43", "end": "02:37:48", "text": ">> I would love to sell my book. Okay. But"}, {"start": "02:37:45", "end": "02:37:52", "text": "only 1% of authors become bestsellers."}, {"start": "02:37:48", "end": "02:37:54", "text": "Um I still need my full-time job and I I"}, {"start": "02:37:52", "end": "02:37:55", "text": "have no illusions of quitting that"}, {"start": "02:37:54", "end": "02:37:58", "text": "anytime soon."}, {"start": "02:37:55", "end": "02:37:59", "text": "If I if I become a famous author, it's"}, {"start": "02:37:58", "end": "02:38:02", "text": "probably because I'm writing about"}, {"start": "02:37:59", "end": "02:38:03", "text": "something else. Uh, you know, these"}, {"start": "02:38:02", "end": "02:38:03", "text": "these these"}, {"start": "02:38:03", "end": "02:38:05", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "02:38:03", "end": "02:38:08", "text": ">> memoirs that are strange like this, like"}, {"start": "02:38:05", "end": "02:38:12", "text": "well, Communion did very well. But I"}, {"start": "02:38:08", "end": "02:38:14", "text": "wrote this because the act of writing it"}, {"start": "02:38:12", "end": "02:38:17", "text": "was cathartic, was therapeutic,"}, {"start": "02:38:14", "end": "02:38:19", "text": ">> and um and it allowed me to create a"}, {"start": "02:38:17", "end": "02:38:22", "text": "permanent record of everything so I"}, {"start": "02:38:19", "end": "02:38:25", "text": "don't forget some of it. And um and then"}, {"start": "02:38:22", "end": "02:38:27", "text": "I illustrated my experiences while I was"}, {"start": "02:38:25", "end": "02:38:31", "text": "writing the book. And that also was"}, {"start": "02:38:27", "end": "02:38:34", "text": "cathartic. That allowed me to confront"}, {"start": "02:38:31", "end": "02:38:38", "text": "uh on a more visceral u cognitive level"}, {"start": "02:38:34", "end": "02:38:39", "text": "that that um you know where I could deal"}, {"start": "02:38:38", "end": "02:38:42", "text": "with it more emotionally. I've had five"}, {"start": "02:38:39", "end": "02:38:44", "text": "years to deal with this on an emotional"}, {"start": "02:38:42", "end": "02:38:47", "text": "level."}, {"start": "02:38:44", "end": "02:38:49", "text": ">> And that's why I can come here and seem"}, {"start": "02:38:47", "end": "02:38:53", "text": "almost flippant talking about it. I'm"}, {"start": "02:38:49", "end": "02:38:55", "text": "I'm not flippant. Uh but I think"}, {"start": "02:38:53", "end": "02:38:58", "text": "everybody that has these experiences"}, {"start": "02:38:55", "end": "02:39:00", "text": "should come forward because if we can"}, {"start": "02:38:58", "end": "02:39:03", "text": "have this serious conversation as a"}, {"start": "02:39:00", "end": "02:39:05", "text": "nation, as a people, maybe we can stand"}, {"start": "02:39:03", "end": "02:39:07", "text": "up and do something about it. I don't"}, {"start": "02:39:05", "end": "02:39:10", "text": "know if that's possible. Maybe it's too"}, {"start": "02:39:07", "end": "02:39:13", "text": "late. But if it's possible to thwart"}, {"start": "02:39:10", "end": "02:39:15", "text": "this agenda, like I want conformed"}, {"start": "02:39:13", "end": "02:39:18", "text": "incent, maybe it is best that we're"}, {"start": "02:39:15", "end": "02:39:20", "text": "replaced. You know, by some measures, we"}, {"start": "02:39:18", "end": "02:39:23", "text": "suck as a species."}, {"start": "02:39:20", "end": "02:39:25", "text": ">> Think about it. But I think there we're"}, {"start": "02:39:23", "end": "02:39:28", "text": "also beautiful."}, {"start": "02:39:25", "end": "02:39:32", "text": "our art, our music,"}, {"start": "02:39:28", "end": "02:39:33", "text": "uh our poetry, um our literature, our"}, {"start": "02:39:32", "end": "02:39:35", "text": "architecture,"}, {"start": "02:39:33", "end": "02:39:38", "text": "you know, you know, some of these these"}, {"start": "02:39:35", "end": "02:39:40", "text": "these gorgeous old cathedrals and and"}, {"start": "02:39:38", "end": "02:39:43", "text": "the way we paint the ceilings and and"}, {"start": "02:39:40", "end": "02:39:45", "text": "the there's so much that we do that"}, {"start": "02:39:43", "end": "02:39:49", "text": "comes from our inspiration"}, {"start": "02:39:45", "end": "02:39:54", "text": "that would be lost in a species that is"}, {"start": "02:39:49", "end": "02:39:55", "text": "telepathic only. Um, I I think you lose"}, {"start": "02:39:54", "end": "02:39:56", "text": "something in that."}, {"start": "02:39:55", "end": "02:39:58", "text": ">> It's worth preserving."}, {"start": "02:39:56", "end": "02:40:01", "text": ">> I think there's a lot worth preserving"}, {"start": "02:39:58", "end": "02:40:03", "text": "in humanity. And And I want to see if we"}, {"start": "02:40:01", "end": "02:40:06", "text": "can be the ones that beat the odds and"}, {"start": "02:40:03", "end": "02:40:10", "text": "be the voiced species that can actually"}, {"start": "02:40:06", "end": "02:40:13", "text": "persist for for more than 50,000 years"}, {"start": "02:40:10", "end": "02:40:16", "text": "or however long we've been homo sapiens."}, {"start": "02:40:13", "end": "02:40:19", "text": "You know, there's um one thing I will"}, {"start": "02:40:16", "end": "02:40:21", "text": "add to to this because that argument"}, {"start": "02:40:19", "end": "02:40:22", "text": "will come up and it's like, oh, he's"}, {"start": "02:40:21", "end": "02:40:25", "text": "trying to sell a book. For every person"}, {"start": "02:40:22", "end": "02:40:27", "text": "who's had experiences who's selling a"}, {"start": "02:40:25", "end": "02:40:28", "text": "book, there are a thousand other people"}, {"start": "02:40:27", "end": "02:40:29", "text": "who are not"}, {"start": "02:40:28", "end": "02:40:31", "text": ">> selling a book who are telling the exact"}, {"start": "02:40:29", "end": "02:40:35", "text": "same story. And so, you know, that"}, {"start": "02:40:31", "end": "02:40:38", "text": "argument for me isn't valid at all. If"}, {"start": "02:40:35", "end": "02:40:40", "text": "you take the time, as many of, you know,"}, {"start": "02:40:38", "end": "02:40:44", "text": "the phenomenon sort of predecessors"}, {"start": "02:40:40", "end": "02:40:46", "text": "have, you can quickly paint a really"}, {"start": "02:40:44", "end": "02:40:50", "text": "vast picture"}, {"start": "02:40:46", "end": "02:40:52", "text": ">> of the multitude and"}, {"start": "02:40:50", "end": "02:40:56", "text": "yeah, just the numerous cases that exist"}, {"start": "02:40:52", "end": "02:40:57", "text": "that are echoing mostly uh similar"}, {"start": "02:40:56", "end": "02:40:59", "text": "concepts."}, {"start": "02:40:57", "end": "02:41:01", "text": ">> And think about the risk I'm taking of"}, {"start": "02:40:59", "end": "02:41:04", "text": "course or people like me would take"}, {"start": "02:41:01", "end": "02:41:06", "text": ">> by using my real name. Um, I'm basically"}, {"start": "02:41:04", "end": "02:41:09", "text": "making myself unemployable to anybody."}, {"start": "02:41:06", "end": "02:41:11", "text": "Yeah. I I apply for a job on Indeed and"}, {"start": "02:41:09", "end": "02:41:13", "text": "if they Google my name, it's like, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "02:41:11", "end": "02:41:14", "text": "UFO nut. No, forget it.\""}, {"start": "02:41:13", "end": "02:41:16", "text": ">> And why would you why would you make up"}, {"start": "02:41:14", "end": "02:41:17", "text": "things that make you appear so"}, {"start": "02:41:16", "end": "02:41:18", "text": "vulnerable, right? Exactly."}, {"start": "02:41:17", "end": "02:41:21", "text": ">> You know what I mean? In instead of"}, {"start": "02:41:18", "end": "02:41:22", "text": "making you out to be perhaps a hero,"}, {"start": "02:41:21", "end": "02:41:23", "text": "right? You know, if I'm going to make"}, {"start": "02:41:22", "end": "02:41:25", "text": "something up, I'm going to be the"}, {"start": "02:41:23", "end": "02:41:26", "text": "protagonist. I'm I'm right. I'm going to"}, {"start": "02:41:25", "end": "02:41:26", "text": "make myself look good."}, {"start": "02:41:26", "end": "02:41:27", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "02:41:26", "end": "02:41:27", "text": ">> Um,"}, {"start": "02:41:27", "end": "02:41:28", "text": ">> okay."}, {"start": "02:41:27", "end": "02:41:29", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "02:41:28", "end": "02:41:31", "text": ">> Let's get to I got a few audience"}, {"start": "02:41:29", "end": "02:41:33", "text": "questions."}, {"start": "02:41:31", "end": "02:41:35", "text": "generously uh given a bunch of questions"}, {"start": "02:41:33", "end": "02:41:38", "text": "by our lovely audience over at uh"}, {"start": "02:41:35", "end": "02:41:39", "text": "Discord. If you're a member here, you"}, {"start": "02:41:38", "end": "02:41:41", "text": "know, you get access to many things and"}, {"start": "02:41:39", "end": "02:41:43", "text": "one of those things is asking"}, {"start": "02:41:41", "end": "02:41:45", "text": "potentially our guests a question. And"}, {"start": "02:41:43", "end": "02:41:46", "text": "they always have better questions than I"}, {"start": "02:41:45", "end": "02:41:50", "text": "do collectively. So, I'm excited to see"}, {"start": "02:41:46", "end": "02:41:50", "text": "what they got today."}, {"start": "02:41:55", "end": "02:41:59", "text": "This question by Kazane says, \"Is"}, {"start": "02:41:57", "end": "02:42:01", "text": "Michael Herrera's account of human"}, {"start": "02:41:59", "end": "02:42:05", "text": "trafficking related to the contract you"}, {"start": "02:42:01", "end": "02:42:07", "text": "refer to in a blood covenant?\""}, {"start": "02:42:05", "end": "02:42:08", "text": ">> I don't know who Michael Herrera is. So,"}, {"start": "02:42:07", "end": "02:42:11", "text": "Michael Herrera is a military"}, {"start": "02:42:08", "end": "02:42:13", "text": "whistleblower who had an encounter, I"}, {"start": "02:42:11", "end": "02:42:17", "text": "believe, in Indonesia where he was part"}, {"start": "02:42:13", "end": "02:42:19", "text": "of like some elite sort of SEAL team and"}, {"start": "02:42:17", "end": "02:42:24", "text": "they were there on a humanitarian"}, {"start": "02:42:19", "end": "02:42:26", "text": "mission apparently to extract uh people"}, {"start": "02:42:24", "end": "02:42:29", "text": "um from danger because it was like a"}, {"start": "02:42:26", "end": "02:42:32", "text": "flood. And as him and his I think six"}, {"start": "02:42:29", "end": "02:42:35", "text": "people total were walking down this sort"}, {"start": "02:42:32", "end": "02:42:38", "text": "of mountainous jungle terrain, they spot"}, {"start": "02:42:35", "end": "02:42:39", "text": "this octagonal black disc hovering over"}, {"start": "02:42:38", "end": "02:42:40", "text": "the trees."}, {"start": "02:42:39", "end": "02:42:41", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "02:42:40", "end": "02:42:43", "text": ">> And he goes, \"All right, let's go check"}, {"start": "02:42:41", "end": "02:42:47", "text": "it out.\" And they get down there and"}, {"start": "02:42:43", "end": "02:42:49", "text": "they are met with just guns pointed at"}, {"start": "02:42:47", "end": "02:42:52", "text": "their heads immediately unbadged"}, {"start": "02:42:49", "end": "02:42:55", "text": "military personnel who were loading up"}, {"start": "02:42:52", "end": "02:42:58", "text": "what seemed like people."}, {"start": "02:42:55", "end": "02:43:02", "text": "Um and he says that there are I I might"}, {"start": "02:42:58", "end": "02:43:05", "text": "be mistaken but that these uh reverse"}, {"start": "02:43:02", "end": "02:43:08", "text": "engineered craft were used to take"}, {"start": "02:43:05", "end": "02:43:10", "text": "people um children and all types of"}, {"start": "02:43:08", "end": "02:43:12", "text": "people or for whatever use."}, {"start": "02:43:10", "end": "02:43:15", "text": ">> What country was it in? I think it was"}, {"start": "02:43:12", "end": "02:43:19", "text": "in Indonesia if I'm not mistaken, but it"}, {"start": "02:43:15", "end": "02:43:22", "text": "was uh it was some Asian country and"}, {"start": "02:43:19", "end": "02:43:25", "text": "they were immediately like outmanned,"}, {"start": "02:43:22", "end": "02:43:28", "text": "outgunned. The tech, the gear, the"}, {"start": "02:43:25", "end": "02:43:31", "text": "clothing, the vehicles were all modern"}, {"start": "02:43:28", "end": "02:43:32", "text": "and no flags, no badges, no names, and"}, {"start": "02:43:31", "end": "02:43:34", "text": "they were being like yelled at and"}, {"start": "02:43:32", "end": "02:43:36", "text": "accosted. Their phones were taken,"}, {"start": "02:43:34", "end": "02:43:37", "text": "everything was like shut down for them."}, {"start": "02:43:36", "end": "02:43:38", "text": "and he came forward and he tried to"}, {"start": "02:43:37", "end": "02:43:41", "text": "reach out to some of the people that"}, {"start": "02:43:38", "end": "02:43:42", "text": "came forward uh that that witnessed that"}, {"start": "02:43:41", "end": "02:43:43", "text": "as well. They would not come forward and"}, {"start": "02:43:42", "end": "02:43:45", "text": "they were like, \"Please do not contact"}, {"start": "02:43:43", "end": "02:43:47", "text": "me ever again.\" Uh but they were"}, {"start": "02:43:45", "end": "02:43:47", "text": "basically told to shut the hell up about"}, {"start": "02:43:47", "end": "02:43:50", "text": "it."}, {"start": "02:43:47", "end": "02:43:52", "text": ">> I I would ask what what were the blood"}, {"start": "02:43:50", "end": "02:43:53", "text": "types of the people that were taken."}, {"start": "02:43:52", "end": "02:43:57", "text": ">> So you think there um do you think"}, {"start": "02:43:53", "end": "02:44:00", "text": "there's an active agreement with the"}, {"start": "02:43:57", "end": "02:44:03", "text": "government in terms of supplying fresh"}, {"start": "02:44:00", "end": "02:44:05", "text": "blood?"}, {"start": "02:44:03", "end": "02:44:09", "text": ">> That's a possibility."}, {"start": "02:44:05", "end": "02:44:12", "text": "But uh I think that uh they don't have"}, {"start": "02:44:09", "end": "02:44:13", "text": "any problem abducting people."}, {"start": "02:44:12", "end": "02:44:15", "text": ">> They don't need our help for that."}, {"start": "02:44:13", "end": "02:44:19", "text": ">> But but here's the thing. I don't think"}, {"start": "02:44:15", "end": "02:44:22", "text": "that they're going to uh abduct people"}, {"start": "02:44:19", "end": "02:44:25", "text": "for the sake of blood harvesting from"}, {"start": "02:44:22", "end": "02:44:28", "text": "their homes because it's too visible. Uh"}, {"start": "02:44:25", "end": "02:44:31", "text": "so if it's a home abduction, they get"}, {"start": "02:44:28", "end": "02:44:33", "text": "put back and it's not for the purpose of"}, {"start": "02:44:31", "end": "02:44:34", "text": "but maybe they take a little blood, you"}, {"start": "02:44:33", "end": "02:44:35", "text": "know, maybe they're culturing cell"}, {"start": "02:44:34", "end": "02:44:37", "text": "lines."}, {"start": "02:44:35", "end": "02:44:40", "text": ">> It's mostly mostly reproductive,"}, {"start": "02:44:37", "end": "02:44:43", "text": ">> right? But um but I think that if you"}, {"start": "02:44:40", "end": "02:44:44", "text": "have people camping in"}, {"start": "02:44:43", "end": "02:44:47", "text": ">> national parks,"}, {"start": "02:44:44", "end": "02:44:49", "text": ">> right? national parks in the wilderness"}, {"start": "02:44:47", "end": "02:44:53", "text": "and and if they happen to be typo, they"}, {"start": "02:44:49", "end": "02:44:54", "text": "might not come back. Um because people"}, {"start": "02:44:53", "end": "02:44:57", "text": "disappear in the wilderness all the"}, {"start": "02:44:54", "end": "02:44:58", "text": "time. They maybe a bear dragged them"}, {"start": "02:44:57", "end": "02:45:00", "text": "off. I mean, there's there's"}, {"start": "02:44:58", "end": "02:45:03", "text": ">> it's easy deniability."}, {"start": "02:45:00", "end": "02:45:05", "text": ">> Exactly. Uh not not that, you know, some"}, {"start": "02:45:03", "end": "02:45:07", "text": "people say, \"Well, why would they need"}, {"start": "02:45:05", "end": "02:45:09", "text": "plausible deniability? They can they"}, {"start": "02:45:07", "end": "02:45:11", "text": "don't leave any traces behind. They can"}, {"start": "02:45:09", "end": "02:45:15", "text": "just zip away with their little UFO.\""}, {"start": "02:45:11", "end": "02:45:18", "text": "But I I think that um that they avoid"}, {"start": "02:45:15", "end": "02:45:20", "text": "home abductions for for feeding purposes"}, {"start": "02:45:18", "end": "02:45:21", "text": ">> and maybe just part of that agreement"}, {"start": "02:45:20", "end": "02:45:23", "text": "too."}, {"start": "02:45:21", "end": "02:45:25", "text": ">> You know, it's it's so strange. I hear"}, {"start": "02:45:23", "end": "02:45:27", "text": "myself saying all this stuff like like"}, {"start": "02:45:25", "end": "02:45:30", "text": "this is like such an esoteric sci-fi,"}, {"start": "02:45:27", "end": "02:45:31", "text": ">> right? Exactly. It's like we're we're"}, {"start": "02:45:30", "end": "02:45:33", "text": "we're theorizing now. This is this is"}, {"start": "02:45:31", "end": "02:45:35", "text": "we're speculating."}, {"start": "02:45:33", "end": "02:45:39", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. But um in terms of the blood"}, {"start": "02:45:35", "end": "02:45:44", "text": "covenant thesis that I I uh talk about"}, {"start": "02:45:39", "end": "02:45:48", "text": "in my second book, um that's absolutely"}, {"start": "02:45:44", "end": "02:45:50", "text": "plausible that in exchange for"}, {"start": "02:45:48", "end": "02:45:54", "text": "technological advantage"}, {"start": "02:45:50", "end": "02:45:58", "text": "uh a government agency or group"}, {"start": "02:45:54", "end": "02:46:00", "text": "might be willing to engineer in exchange"}, {"start": "02:45:58", "end": "02:46:04", "text": "uh to feed the tall grays"}, {"start": "02:46:00", "end": "02:46:06", "text": ">> and sort of turn a blind eye. Um, so, so"}, {"start": "02:46:04", "end": "02:46:07", "text": "that's why I ask what blood type are"}, {"start": "02:46:06", "end": "02:46:10", "text": "they? Because I'll bet you they're O"}, {"start": "02:46:07", "end": "02:46:10", "text": "positive or O negative. Otherwise, they"}, {"start": "02:46:10", "end": "02:46:11", "text": "would"}, {"start": "02:46:10", "end": "02:46:13", "text": ">> if it has to do with that at all."}, {"start": "02:46:11", "end": "02:46:17", "text": ">> If it has to do with that at all. Right."}, {"start": "02:46:13", "end": "02:46:19", "text": ">> Okay. Uh, next question from Chris"}, {"start": "02:46:17", "end": "02:46:23", "text": "Austin."}, {"start": "02:46:19", "end": "02:46:23", "text": "So, I'm thinking Austin, Texas."}, {"start": "02:46:28", "end": "02:46:32", "text": "So, cool. We kind of touched on this,"}, {"start": "02:46:31", "end": "02:46:34", "text": "but uh do you do you have more"}, {"start": "02:46:32", "end": "02:46:36", "text": "information about the Gray's underground"}, {"start": "02:46:34", "end": "02:46:40", "text": "facility?"}, {"start": "02:46:36", "end": "02:46:43", "text": ">> I only have the map that I was shown. Um"}, {"start": "02:46:40", "end": "02:46:46", "text": "and I did a"}, {"start": "02:46:43", "end": "02:46:50", "text": "sort of a armchair forensic analysis of"}, {"start": "02:46:46", "end": "02:46:52", "text": "the area to determine that um it is"}, {"start": "02:46:50", "end": "02:46:56", "text": "geologically possible for such"}, {"start": "02:46:52", "end": "02:46:58", "text": "structures to exist. And nothing in"}, {"start": "02:46:56", "end": "02:47:02", "text": "current geological assays"}, {"start": "02:46:58", "end": "02:47:05", "text": "uh have been done at that depth that"}, {"start": "02:47:02", "end": "02:47:07", "text": "would show or or disprove"}, {"start": "02:47:05", "end": "02:47:09", "text": "caverns in in that area. And if you want"}, {"start": "02:47:07", "end": "02:47:11", "text": "to see a map of of where I'm placing"}, {"start": "02:47:09", "end": "02:47:13", "text": "those caverns according to the map I was"}, {"start": "02:47:11", "end": "02:47:14", "text": "shown, I've recreated versions of the"}, {"start": "02:47:13", "end": "02:47:16", "text": "map. You"}, {"start": "02:47:14", "end": "02:47:18", "text": ">> I've already put it up at this point. So"}, {"start": "02:47:16", "end": "02:47:22", "text": ">> yeah,"}, {"start": "02:47:18", "end": "02:47:22", "text": ">> and uh last one here."}, {"start": "02:47:23", "end": "02:47:27", "text": "It's a great question by Slug."}, {"start": "02:47:32", "end": "02:47:38", "text": ">> Slug asks, \"What does the word abduction"}, {"start": "02:47:35", "end": "02:47:41", "text": "not capture about what actually"}, {"start": "02:47:38", "end": "02:47:41", "text": "happens?\""}, {"start": "02:47:41", "end": "02:47:44", "text": ">> When you think of the word abduction,"}, {"start": "02:47:43", "end": "02:47:47", "text": "like you'll think of somebody being"}, {"start": "02:47:44", "end": "02:47:49", "text": "kidnapped. Uh maybe they're killed or"}, {"start": "02:47:47", "end": "02:47:51", "text": "maybe they're held for ransom or"}, {"start": "02:47:49", "end": "02:47:55", "text": "something like that. Um, usually the"}, {"start": "02:47:51", "end": "02:47:59", "text": "person is just kept confined."}, {"start": "02:47:55", "end": "02:48:02", "text": "Um, uh, maybe they're raped. Um, maybe"}, {"start": "02:47:59", "end": "02:48:04", "text": "they're tortured or harmed, but, uh, but"}, {"start": "02:48:02", "end": "02:48:06", "text": "for the most part, it's something that"}, {"start": "02:48:04", "end": "02:48:09", "text": "either ends where the person, you know,"}, {"start": "02:48:06", "end": "02:48:13", "text": "escapes or is returned or or their life"}, {"start": "02:48:09", "end": "02:48:15", "text": "is ended. Um, but that's something that"}, {"start": "02:48:13", "end": "02:48:19", "text": "most people can put wrap their heads"}, {"start": "02:48:15", "end": "02:48:21", "text": "around. Um but in in terms of humans"}, {"start": "02:48:19", "end": "02:48:25", "text": "abducting humans,"}, {"start": "02:48:21", "end": "02:48:29", "text": "um you know, you don't have somebody"}, {"start": "02:48:25", "end": "02:48:31", "text": "controlling another person's neurology,"}, {"start": "02:48:29", "end": "02:48:34", "text": "robbing them of the ability to think"}, {"start": "02:48:31", "end": "02:48:35", "text": "clearly, robbing them of of their"}, {"start": "02:48:34", "end": "02:48:38", "text": "agency. Like sometimes when people are"}, {"start": "02:48:35", "end": "02:48:40", "text": "abducted, they find a way to escape or"}, {"start": "02:48:38", "end": "02:48:43", "text": "wiggle free or something, you know, they"}, {"start": "02:48:40", "end": "02:48:46", "text": "they have a small modicum of control"}, {"start": "02:48:43", "end": "02:48:49", "text": "that they can try to fight for."}, {"start": "02:48:46", "end": "02:48:53", "text": "Um, the grays don't allow you even that"}, {"start": "02:48:49", "end": "02:48:54", "text": "much. They take everything from you. Um,"}, {"start": "02:48:53", "end": "02:48:56", "text": "if they want you to have sex with"}, {"start": "02:48:54", "end": "02:48:58", "text": "somebody, they can make you have sex"}, {"start": "02:48:56", "end": "02:49:00", "text": "with somebody. If if they want you to be"}, {"start": "02:48:58", "end": "02:49:03", "text": "still, they can force you to be still."}, {"start": "02:49:00", "end": "02:49:07", "text": "If they don't want you thinking of good"}, {"start": "02:49:03", "end": "02:49:09", "text": "questions or or or trying to engineer a"}, {"start": "02:49:07", "end": "02:49:11", "text": "way to escape from your situation, they"}, {"start": "02:49:09", "end": "02:49:14", "text": "they can keep your mind clouded and"}, {"start": "02:49:11", "end": "02:49:17", "text": "confused the entire time. And I I I"}, {"start": "02:49:14", "end": "02:49:20", "text": "think the word abduction itself doesn't"}, {"start": "02:49:17", "end": "02:49:23", "text": "encompass the the loss of agency. I"}, {"start": "02:49:20", "end": "02:49:25", "text": "mean, there is a loss of agency when a a"}, {"start": "02:49:23", "end": "02:49:27", "text": "human is abducted by another human, of"}, {"start": "02:49:25", "end": "02:49:29", "text": "course. You know, you're you're you're"}, {"start": "02:49:27", "end": "02:49:32", "text": "you're taken against your will, of"}, {"start": "02:49:29", "end": "02:49:35", "text": "course, but the the loss of agency"}, {"start": "02:49:32", "end": "02:49:40", "text": "imposed upon you by the graves is total."}, {"start": "02:49:35", "end": "02:49:42", "text": "And that angers me more than anything."}, {"start": "02:49:40", "end": "02:49:44", "text": "the what they take but they they take"}, {"start": "02:49:42", "end": "02:49:47", "text": "things like I've always wanted more"}, {"start": "02:49:44", "end": "02:49:49", "text": "children, you know, and and to be shown"}, {"start": "02:49:47", "end": "02:49:52", "text": "children I can never touch or love or or"}, {"start": "02:49:49", "end": "02:49:55", "text": "hold or know"}, {"start": "02:49:52", "end": "02:49:58", "text": "that that just that just makes me shake"}, {"start": "02:49:55", "end": "02:50:02", "text": "with anger. You know, I I I hate these"}, {"start": "02:49:58", "end": "02:50:04", "text": "people. I hate them. I don't want them."}, {"start": "02:50:02", "end": "02:50:06", "text": "So you you ask me if they ever come back"}, {"start": "02:50:04", "end": "02:50:07", "text": "and I put another poster on my wall,"}, {"start": "02:50:06", "end": "02:50:10", "text": "what I would say, I would say, \"Fuck"}, {"start": "02:50:07", "end": "02:50:12", "text": "off. I don't want you."}, {"start": "02:50:10", "end": "02:50:14", "text": "I I know they'll ignore it. You know,"}, {"start": "02:50:12", "end": "02:50:15", "text": "you know, sometimes religious"}, {"start": "02:50:14", "end": "02:50:19", "text": "fundamentalists will will say, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "02:50:15", "end": "02:50:22", "text": "you're you're uh your abductions are are"}, {"start": "02:50:19", "end": "02:50:25", "text": "merely uh demons coming to deceive you"}, {"start": "02:50:22", "end": "02:50:27", "text": "and blah blah blah.\" Um, but they'll go"}, {"start": "02:50:25", "end": "02:50:30", "text": "away if you invoke the name of Christ."}, {"start": "02:50:27", "end": "02:50:32", "text": "Well, I was raised Christian. I'm"}, {"start": "02:50:30", "end": "02:50:34", "text": "I'm aware of the concept."}, {"start": "02:50:32", "end": "02:50:37", "text": "You're not even given the the"}, {"start": "02:50:34", "end": "02:50:39", "text": "opportunity to formulate uh an objection"}, {"start": "02:50:37", "end": "02:50:44", "text": "in your mind against what they're doing"}, {"start": "02:50:39", "end": "02:50:49", "text": "to you. And these are not non-corporeal."}, {"start": "02:50:44", "end": "02:50:51", "text": "The these are not spiritual entities."}, {"start": "02:50:49", "end": "02:50:53", "text": "These are physical people that use"}, {"start": "02:50:51", "end": "02:50:56", "text": "technology and they're doing things to"}, {"start": "02:50:53", "end": "02:50:59", "text": "you physically. It doesn't sound like an"}, {"start": "02:50:56", "end": "02:51:01", "text": "angry ghost that has a gargoyle face"}, {"start": "02:50:59", "end": "02:51:04", "text": "that's like uh trying to corrupt your"}, {"start": "02:51:01", "end": "02:51:07", "text": "soul so you'll go to hell. It's nothing"}, {"start": "02:51:04", "end": "02:51:10", "text": "like that. These these are people from"}, {"start": "02:51:07", "end": "02:51:13", "text": "another world and they're desperate and"}, {"start": "02:51:10", "end": "02:51:15", "text": "they're here for a reason. Some people"}, {"start": "02:51:13", "end": "02:51:17", "text": "can call their agenda evil because"}, {"start": "02:51:15", "end": "02:51:22", "text": "they're robbing us of our uh right to"}, {"start": "02:51:17", "end": "02:51:24", "text": "consent to their agenda. Um and some"}, {"start": "02:51:22", "end": "02:51:25", "text": "people can argue that they have no"}, {"start": "02:51:24", "end": "02:51:29", "text": "choice. the drowning man will always"}, {"start": "02:51:25", "end": "02:51:32", "text": "drag someone down with them. Right?"}, {"start": "02:51:29", "end": "02:51:35", "text": "So, um you can you can look at both"}, {"start": "02:51:32", "end": "02:51:38", "text": "coins of the of the ethical I'm sorry,"}, {"start": "02:51:35", "end": "02:51:43", "text": "both sides of the ethical coin on this"}, {"start": "02:51:38", "end": "02:51:45", "text": "and um and come up with an unsatisfying"}, {"start": "02:51:43", "end": "02:51:47", "text": "answer."}, {"start": "02:51:45", "end": "02:51:49", "text": "Well, Eric, I want to thank you for"}, {"start": "02:51:47", "end": "02:51:51", "text": "being so candid. I really appreciate it"}, {"start": "02:51:49", "end": "02:51:53", "text": "and I think u it goes a long way for you"}, {"start": "02:51:51", "end": "02:51:55", "text": "know people out there"}, {"start": "02:51:53", "end": "02:51:57", "text": ">> possibly going through the same thing"}, {"start": "02:51:55", "end": "02:51:59", "text": "obviously this helps uh but also for"}, {"start": "02:51:57", "end": "02:52:01", "text": "people who just want to lend an ear you"}, {"start": "02:51:59", "end": "02:52:03", "text": "know it's it's really it's a it's the"}, {"start": "02:52:01", "end": "02:52:05", "text": "craziest hump for people to get over um"}, {"start": "02:52:03", "end": "02:52:06", "text": "this stuff you can't blame them you"}, {"start": "02:52:05", "end": "02:52:08", "text": "can't blame anyone for being like this"}, {"start": "02:52:06", "end": "02:52:10", "text": "is all horse crap you know like that's"}, {"start": "02:52:08", "end": "02:52:12", "text": "you can't blame them but for you to know"}, {"start": "02:52:10", "end": "02:52:15", "text": "that and to still come forward I think"}, {"start": "02:52:12", "end": "02:52:17", "text": "takes a lot of courage and so I applaud"}, {"start": "02:52:15", "end": "02:52:19", "text": "you and I I thank you for for doing that"}, {"start": "02:52:17", "end": "02:52:20", "text": "and uh you know let's keep this"}, {"start": "02:52:19", "end": "02:52:22", "text": "conversation going and see what else we"}, {"start": "02:52:20", "end": "02:52:25", "text": "can we can come up with hopefully"}, {"start": "02:52:22", "end": "02:52:27", "text": "collectively as a as a species you know"}, {"start": "02:52:25", "end": "02:52:30", "text": "if there's anything here to gleam if"}, {"start": "02:52:27", "end": "02:52:32", "text": "there's any underlying ground truth to"}, {"start": "02:52:30", "end": "02:52:34", "text": "be surfaced then I think that you know"}, {"start": "02:52:32", "end": "02:52:36", "text": "conversations like these have a play a"}, {"start": "02:52:34", "end": "02:52:41", "text": "very important part I'm going to"}, {"start": "02:52:36", "end": "02:52:43", "text": "continue to write uh books uh that uh"}, {"start": "02:52:41", "end": "02:52:47", "text": "are related to them based on research"}, {"start": "02:52:43", "end": "02:52:50", "text": "and and speculative you know science uh"}, {"start": "02:52:47", "end": "02:52:51", "text": "to try to understand them better and so"}, {"start": "02:52:50", "end": "02:52:52", "text": "uh"}, {"start": "02:52:51", "end": "02:52:54", "text": ">> and hopefully draw out from me again."}, {"start": "02:52:52", "end": "02:52:55", "text": ">> Yeah. And drawing out some more"}, {"start": "02:52:54", "end": "02:52:56", "text": "testimony, you know, from people out"}, {"start": "02:52:55", "end": "02:52:57", "text": "there who now"}, {"start": "02:52:56", "end": "02:52:59", "text": ">> maybe Yeah."}, {"start": "02:52:57", "end": "02:53:00", "text": ">> because of this perhaps feel more"}, {"start": "02:52:59", "end": "02:53:02", "text": "comfortable to to share"}, {"start": "02:53:00", "end": "02:53:04", "text": ">> if people want to reach me through my"}, {"start": "02:53:02", "end": "02:53:07", "text": "author website uh or the book's website"}, {"start": "02:53:04", "end": "02:53:09", "text": "anstintheshadows.com. I'm I'm perfectly"}, {"start": "02:53:07", "end": "02:53:10", "text": "willing to communicate via email."}, {"start": "02:53:09", "end": "02:53:13", "text": ">> We'll leave it below. We'll leave all"}, {"start": "02:53:10", "end": "02:53:15", "text": "the links uh in the description here."}, {"start": "02:53:13", "end": "02:53:16", "text": "And also, if you're a member of the"}, {"start": "02:53:15", "end": "02:53:18", "text": "channel and you want an opportunity to"}, {"start": "02:53:16", "end": "02:53:21", "text": "win a signed copy, we're giving away a"}, {"start": "02:53:18", "end": "02:53:22", "text": "few. Uh Eric was gener generous enough"}, {"start": "02:53:21", "end": "02:53:24", "text": "to bring a few extra copies here. So, we"}, {"start": "02:53:22", "end": "02:53:26", "text": "have the A Blood Covenant and Angs in"}, {"start": "02:53:24", "end": "02:53:27", "text": "the Shadows. I'll give those away. So,"}, {"start": "02:53:26", "end": "02:53:29", "text": "just comment below uh if you're a member"}, {"start": "02:53:27", "end": "02:53:30", "text": "and we'll pick a few of you and we'll"}, {"start": "02:53:29", "end": "02:53:31", "text": "have those sent out to you, Eric. Thank"}, {"start": "02:53:30", "end": "02:53:35", "text": "you again."}, {"start": "02:53:31", "end": "02:53:35", "text": ">> You're welcome. Thank you."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "In May of 1988 in Cabaroo, Puerto Rico,"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "Amorei Rivera was going through some"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "photos his aunt had developed, which he"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "had taken on his Kodak Instamatic just a"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "few nights earlier. But as he flipped"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "through the photos, his heart suddenly"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "sank."}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "As the memories of that morning came"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "rushing in,"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "Amorei had remembered that on his way"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "home at 4:30 that morning, he had been"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "taken from his car by strange beings."}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "And when returned, he saw a giant"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "floating disc in the sky, surrounded by"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "military jets. In a days, he reached for"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "his camera and snapped these pictures."}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "And the story, folks, gets weirder. This"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "is the story of Amorei Rivera."}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:53", "text": ">> Hey, thanks for this toll-free line."}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "Love the show. I'll try to make this as"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "quick as possible. My family has a"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "cattle ranch in a town called Alamo,"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "Nevada. Um, measuring it, my"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "grandparents cattle ranch is exactly 36"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "miles due east of the runway from Area"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "51. One Christmas, we went up into the"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "mountains and went sledding. On the way"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "down, it has gotten dark and you can see"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "the peaks between Piranagut Valley where"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "Alamo is and Area 51 is on the other"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "side. We observed a very bright light"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "coming up over these mountains. We came"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "to a stop sign and stopped. I was about"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "10 years old. And this light,"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "unbelievably bright, several probably 60"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "miles away. in an instant went from"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "above the mountain tops to directly"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "above us. The light was so bright it"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "filled the entire cab of the vehicle. We"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "couldn't see anything. It was there for"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "seconds and then right back over to the"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "same spot it was at 60 however many"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "miles away and then barely very very"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "slowly went down behind the peaks."}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "Pretty interesting."}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:13", "text": ">> Collective effervescence."}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "This refers to the intense energy,"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "unity,"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "and emotional uplift people feel when"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "they come together in a group. You might"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "have felt this feeling if you've ever"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "been to a concert or went to the movie"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "theaters recently or even witnessed"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "something amazing like the moon landing."}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "It's this indescribable feeling that you"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "get when you're surrounded by people who"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "are all sharing something in common. And"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "that feeling is definitely present"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "during the It's Probably Nothing live"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "show."}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "Folks, we have officially booked a North"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "American tour with 15 cities currently,"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "and we'll be adding more cities as we"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "move forward. The live show will be"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "hosted by myself as well as a variety of"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "co-hosts and a bunch of special guests,"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "including audience members that tell"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "some of the most amazing stories I've"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "ever heard. There's plenty of fun to be"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "had and a whole good time awaits you. So"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "check out the link below. You can go to"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "it's probably nothing.com to secure your"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "tickets early. Check out the VIP package"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "if you like. Those usually sell out"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "pretty quickly. And I can't wait to see"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "what type of shenanigans we're going to"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "get up to. And I can't wait to meet all"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "of you on the road."}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "another episode of Debrief. My name is"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "Chris Ramsey. 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He also felt"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "and heard this beep in his head as he"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "was taking the photos. He felt compelled"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "to. It was very very strange and this is"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "a very credible case that involves"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "future messages of global destruction"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "warning. So much so that Amorei actually"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "ended up becoming a doomsday prepper"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "because of those messages. Now I've"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "tried to reach out to Amorei with no"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "luck but today we're going to be reading"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "through his book. 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And it will"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "make this cinematic version of this"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "story that you're trying to tell."}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "And the best part about it is that you"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "don't have to do this a thousand times."}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "Like the accuracy and consistency is far"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "greater than anything else I've used so"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "far. So, if you're a creator or you just"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "want to mess around with some, I don't"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "know, AI creativity, go over to"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "Higsfield. 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These are the new"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "FX3 cameras. They're looking pretty"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "good. I hope the sound and video quality"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "is uh up to par. always trying to"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "improve what we're doing here at Area"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "52. So, chapter two. Chapter one begins"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "by basically just talking about how he"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "got to Puerto Rico. He also lives in New"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "York City. He speaks English. There's in"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "fact a an interview with Amorei where he"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "kind of goes into detail about his not"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "as much as the book obviously, but about"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "his experience. On my way back home, I"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "encountered"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "two small uh beings, two small strange"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "men, which I didn't think were uh men"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "from out of space."}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "And"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "they took me somewhere where there were"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "other people besides myself,"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "other human people like from Puerto"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "Rico, I guess. Uh from here, another"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "human being showed up. He claimed to be"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "from a distant planet. He was dressed in"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "black. He had a dark skin. He had a a"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "black long black hair up to the"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "shoulders. And he spoke to us with the"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "mouth verbally and not no telepathic"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "speaking."}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:57", "text": ">> And to me seems, you know, credible. Why"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "would you make this up only to be mocked"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "and ridiculed and then only"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "to pack your stuff up"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "and leave civilization to sort of become"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "a doomsday prepper?"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "That doesn't seem economically or"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "financially feasible or like some type"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "of get-richqu scheme that I'd want to be"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "a part of. I I assure you. Um, so"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "interesting behavior if not true. Now,"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "these photos came to me by way of an"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "auction and they were originally in the"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "hands of Wendell Stevens, Colonel"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "Wendell Stevens. Just very, very"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "interesting photos indeed. Remind me a"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "lot of the Calvine UFO sighting. Um,"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "I mean, just incredible."}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "All right, folks. Chapter 2. Here we go."}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "My cousin, who was always listening to"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "her radio, had heard that the salsa"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "orchestra called El Grand Combo was"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "going to be playing at Casablanca."}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "That was a bar that uh he worked at, by"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "the way. She called me immediately and"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "asked if I could do her a favor. Since"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "she mentioned Elrand Combo, I thought"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "that maybe she wanted me to get her"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "tickets or something for the show."}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "However, she only asked if I could take"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "some pictures with her camera. I didn't"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "have a choice since that she gently"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "reminded me that she had gotten me that"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "job. In truth, I said yes, hoping that"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "she would forget about it. But"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "unfortunately, she didn't. That night, I"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "arrived at the club, my dear cousin's"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "camera, one of those cheap Kodak 110s."}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "To make matters worse, she had given me"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "one of El Grand Combo's records so that"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "every member would sign it. I remember"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "well that night. Again, uh forgive the"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "translation here. This was translated"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "from English into uh or from Spanish"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "into English. So there might be some,"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "you know, mixups there, lost in"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "translation type deal, so forgive that."}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "I remember well that night since the"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "place had never been more packed. All"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "the mothers were elegantly dressed and"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "accompanied by their significant others,"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "and there were floral arrangements"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "everywhere. The tables were decorated"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "with white sheets, candles, and small"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "arrangements. The place smelled like"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "flowers and perfume, which gave me"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "allergies."}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "There were only four of us waiting"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "tables and every customer wanted to be"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "served at the same time. Unfortunately,"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "some of the people there, including the"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "mothers, transformed into monsters after"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "a few drinks. Only a fellow waiter knows"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "what it's like to walk through a room"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "packed with people carrying a tray of"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "full drinks. And as someone who's waited"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "tables myself, I do understand the"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "struggle, especially in a dimly lit area"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "with uh inebriated patrons. Now also to"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "be noted Amorei is not a writer and he"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "says this in actually the uh the preface"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "of the book or the forward and he's like"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "I I'm not a writer. I'm just trying to"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "convey the story for humanity's sake. So"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "take keep that in mind as well. You know"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "he's not uh I don't think he's written a"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "book since this book or before."}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "Panic can instill if when you get to"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "your table, someone from another one"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "pulls you by the arm. The arm carrying"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "the drinks to tell you, \"Waiter, another"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "beer.\" To sum it up, that night was"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "hell."}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "Women who had way too much to drink,"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "insisted on dancing with me. They didn't"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "want to hear about the rules of my"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "workplace. They still wanted to dance"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "with even with me having a full arm of"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "drinks. It was difficult to take"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "pictures of the group. I managed to get"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "some while they were playing and others"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "when they were on break. I must confess"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "something that my cousin is not going to"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "like. I left the record behind at the"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "bar, but I told her that all of them had"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "signed it, but someone then stole it."}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "The truth is, I didn't have the courage"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "to go up to them to them and ask um that"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "each would sign the record. She got mad"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "because she thought I'd stolen the"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "record, but she was happy when I brought"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "her camera back."}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "By closing time, I could barely stand on"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "my feet. Also, I look like I just gotten"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "out of a sauna. Clothes on and all. I"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "called it a night after emptying the"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "ashtrays and organizing my tables."}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "Afterwards, I went to the bar to get my"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "cigarettes and the camera, but I left"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "the record. I knew that when I came"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "back, it wasn't going to be gone. Now"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "that I think about it, I actually didn't"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "lie when I told my cousin her record was"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "stolen. I headed to the parking lot"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "where the partying continued. There were"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "couples everywhere. It was 4:00 a.m. and"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "these people were still at it. At the"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "time, the women didn't look so elegant"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "and the men were not behaving like"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "gentlemen."}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "I walked through the crowd to my car"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "like a zombie. I only had one thing in"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "mind. Getting home. Finally, I got to my"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "car, anxious to leave. Little by little,"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "the other cars started to head out. I"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "placed the camera in the glove"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "compartment. I turned the engine on and"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "I took off as usual. I took the main"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "road, road number two, until I reached"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "the intersection that took me to"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "Labakura. I'm sorry if I'm"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "mispronouncing that, by the way, but I I"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "don't want to say Labajura. So, there"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "you go. Once I started heading down this"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "sector, I noticed a dense fog on the"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "road, very thick and white. It was"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "nothing out of the ordinary. I had gone"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "through the same area around the same"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "time, 4:30 in the morning."}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "Now, something interesting to note is"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "that the dense fog does come up quite a"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "bit and I'm reminded of the story of uh"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "Sergeant Firstclass Jeremy Weeks when he"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "was on his way to Colorado Springs with"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "his family and also encountered a dense"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "fog right before a UFO flew over the car"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "and there was some missing time. So,"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "keep that in mind."}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "I was driving slowly, paying close"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "attention to the road. My thoughts at"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "the time were of possibly encountering"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "an animal on the road and preventing an"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "accident. Also, I thought of the pain in"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "my feet and what I'd fixed myself to eat"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "when I got home."}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "All of a sudden, I heard a noise as if"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "someone or something were running close"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "to my car and was trying to catch up and"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "pull right next to me. Everything"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "happened very fast. I heard the steps"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "and thought it was some kind of animal"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "when out of the corner of my eye, I"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "perceived a movement on my left hand"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "side. Turned my head and what I saw was"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "not a cow or a lamb. My mind didn't know"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "what to think. boy with a costume. But"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "at this hour, a"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "No, it can't be. I thought to myself."}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "It's It's head, those eyes."}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "No, even the mouth. Nothing was. Go"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "away, I told myself. It was something"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "like a bizarre little man running beside"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "the car."}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "In my panic, I intended to hit the gas,"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "but I hit the brake instead, and the car"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "came to an abrupt stop. I looked through"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "the windshield, wanting to keep going"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "far away from that place. far from that"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "strange creature that was running beside"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "my car without taking its strange eyes"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "off me. I couldn't do this, however,"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "because now that being with the enormous"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "head was right in front of the car on"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "the right side, walking towards me from"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:03", "text": "the fog. The right headlight of my car"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "was now on him, making it look even more"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "grotesque. Its pale skin was reminiscent"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "of a clown makeup. It was wearing tight"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "fitting clothes, olive green in color."}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "The clothing didn't shine or had any"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "distinct features other than who or what"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "was wearing it. Its arms were"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "proportionate with its body, which was"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "about 3 3 and 1/2 ft tall."}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "I thought to myself, how could it ever"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "reach that side of my car so quickly? In"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "response, I heard another noise beside"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "my door."}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "There was the creature beside me again,"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "but much closer."}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "It was then I realized that there were"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "actually two creatures or people or"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "demons or whatever. I felt them opening"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "the door. I couldn't take it anymore. I"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "found myself paralyzed."}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "I don't know if it was fear, sheer"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "terror, or something else, but I simply"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "couldn't move. Again, everything"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "happened very quickly in a matter of"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "seconds. I couldn't handle it anymore,"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "and I fainted. I want the reader to know"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "that at the time, never did it cross my"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "mind that there was a possibility these"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "could be extraterrestrial creatures. The"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "subject never really attracted my"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "attention. I thought they might be"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "monsters or demons, but never beings"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "from space."}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "When I came to, I was still in my car,"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "confused, and when I looked around, I"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "thought I was in some sort of"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "underground parking. I say this because"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "that place was not outside. There were"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "other cars there, another 10 or so."}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "There were no doors or signs. It was"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:39", "text": "suddenly lit and light gray in color. I"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "noticed the other cars were empty and"}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "there was utter silence."}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "I remember listening to my own agitated"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "breathing and peeking out to find a way"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "out, a door or some sign that would"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "point to an exit. The clearer and alert"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "my mind became, the more desperate I"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "got. I felt I was out of air and my"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "breathing became even more irregular. I"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "started to feel very claustrophobic."}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "I didn't hear any sound, nor did it"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "arrive. There, right beside me, was that"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "little man with the chilling eyes. I"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "remember making an odd frightened sound,"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "but I didn't utter a word. I felt"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "paralyzed. Its eyes were piercing, and"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "when I saw him, I remembered what had"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "transpired on the road. During those"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "brief seconds, I forgot about not"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "knowing where I was and how to get out"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "of there."}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "All of my being was fixed on that"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "creature with the fetus head and"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "almond-shaped cow eyes. It looked at me"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "without any sort of emotion or facial"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "expression. Seated at the wheel of my"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "car, I felt hopeless, like a trapped"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "little animal. I tried everything to"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "deny this fact, but to no avail. All of"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "a sudden, it started to raise its right"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "arm until I could see his little hand."}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "and became even more tense."}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "My hands were at the wheel. Surprised I"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "didn't yank it off. Couldn't move or"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "take my hands off of it. Truth be told,"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "I probably shouldn't say I really"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "couldn't move because I never tried."}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "I think that my dazed and traumatized"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "mind didn't let me. My mind, my brain"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "was incapable of commanding my body. The"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "creature was reaching for my forehead. I"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "felt repugnance, disgust. Imagine if"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "someone would reach for your face with"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "something you're terrified of, like a"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "snake or a mouse or anything that would"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "cause you panic. Its hand for me was all"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "of those things wrapped up into one."}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "This strange being, whom I still"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "considered something diabolical, placed"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "the palm of its hand on my forehead, and"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "with the last spasm of repugnance, my"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "mind went blank."}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "When I woke, I found myself seated with"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "other people in a squared room. My neck"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "and hands were hurting. I felt my eyes"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "swollen."}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "Where was I? Where was my car? I"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "couldn't really distinguish where the"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "room's walls began or ended. The floor,"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "walls, and ceiling were all light gray"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "in color. Like the other place, I didn't"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "see any lamps, light bulbs, entrances,"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "exits, or windows. But I figured that"}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:17", "text": "logically, although none of this seemed"}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "logical, that there had to be doors and"}, {"start": "00:19:17", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "lights, even though I couldn't see them."}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "Where did the light come from? I didn't"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "know. If a person were to stand in the"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "middle of this room alone with no point"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "of reference, you would think he'd be"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "standing in a great void. With me there"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "were 14 other people, men and women,"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "from the looks of it, Hispanic."}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "We were seated in some sort of chairs or"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "long benches. couldn't really see these"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "seats at a single glance. Only because I"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "was seated on one of them could I tell"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "they were there. How I got there was a"}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "mystery to me. The floor, walls, and"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "ceiling were of the same color tone,"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "which gave the appearance of total"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "continuity, like a camouflage or optical"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "illusion. Now, folks, this is something"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "extremely common, as a matter of fact,"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "is the"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "room the walls meeting the floor. I"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "think everyone from Whitley to Travis"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "Walton to so many other people,"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "especially abductees, people who have"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "been taken or said to have been taken by"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "extraterrestrials,"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "they they seem to say a few things. one,"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "this emanating soft light, and we've"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "spoken about this time and time again"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:37", "text": "with whether it's Udo Wartana"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "or, you know, countless others that have"}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "been taken aboard."}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "I'm even reminded of the Ilkley Moore"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "encounter having that feature, I"}, {"start": "00:20:43", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "believe, as well. And then the other"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "feature, yeah, being the floor and the"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "walls meeting in this perfect sort of"}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:53", "text": "roundness where you can't tell where one"}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "ends and the other begins, creating that"}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "sense of, yeah, it being a void."}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:21:00", "text": "I was still a little dazed when I"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "noticed that the creatures were right in"}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "front of us. And I saw them over the"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "shoulders of the people in front of me."}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:11", "text": "No one said a word. Could sense the"}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:13", "text": "terror in the air. I could barely move."}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "I was only able to turn my head and with"}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:18", "text": "great difficulty. I felt a cramp in my"}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "neck. I was seated in the left hand side"}, {"start": "00:21:18", "end": "00:21:23", "text": "of the last row. Each row had five"}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "people and there were three rows in"}, {"start": "00:21:23", "end": "00:21:28", "text": "total. To my right was a teenager. He"}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "was wearing shorts, was barefoot, and"}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:32", "text": "didn't have a shirt on. He looked a lot"}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "like my brother when he was a teenager."}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "When I saw the fear in his face, I"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "wanted to try and ease it, but I"}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:40", "text": "couldn't."}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:43", "text": "The others were dressed in different"}, {"start": "00:21:40", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "ways, from party clothes to sleepwear."}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "Meanwhile, there stood these two with"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:49", "text": "the extraordinary heads completely"}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "still."}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "Every once in a while, they would blink"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "very slowly."}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "All of our attention was directed"}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "towards them."}, {"start": "00:21:59", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "I got to say, I find this really"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "interesting, these details of the other"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:09", "text": "people. This reminds me as well as uh of"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "Kelly Cahill's case as well. It was like"}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:15", "text": "a mass abduction. Multiple people were"}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:17", "text": "involved and you know she was also"}, {"start": "00:22:15", "end": "00:22:19", "text": "describing other people that she saw"}, {"start": "00:22:17", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "there."}, {"start": "00:22:19", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "This kind of feels like the same thing"}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "and that they're you know some of them"}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "are in party clothes, some of them are"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:31", "text": "in sleeping attire."}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:31", "text": "Must be so off-putting."}, {"start": "00:22:31", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "Coming from an undetermined place behind"}, {"start": "00:22:33", "end": "00:22:39", "text": "us, there approached another being who"}, {"start": "00:22:36", "end": "00:22:41", "text": "wore black clothing. He walked towards"}, {"start": "00:22:39", "end": "00:22:43", "text": "the creatures and stood between them."}, {"start": "00:22:41", "end": "00:22:45", "text": "His skin color was that of someone who"}, {"start": "00:22:43", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "was tan."}, {"start": "00:22:45", "end": "00:22:50", "text": "It had a copper-like tone. His hair was"}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:53", "text": "black and straight, and he wore it a"}, {"start": "00:22:50", "end": "00:22:56", "text": "little over his shoulder length. It was"}, {"start": "00:22:53", "end": "00:22:58", "text": "combed back. He was very handsome. His"}, {"start": "00:22:56", "end": "00:23:00", "text": "shirt, which didn't seem to have buttons"}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:03", "text": "or pockets, had long, slightly loose"}, {"start": "00:23:00", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "sleeves. His pants were slim fitting at"}, {"start": "00:23:03", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "the waist, yet slightly loose in the"}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:10", "text": "legs and a little tapered at the bottom."}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:13", "text": "His shirt was tucked in, and he wore"}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:15", "text": "black boots. He was approximately 5'7 or"}, {"start": "00:23:13", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "5'8."}, {"start": "00:23:15", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "His body was slim but toned. After"}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:22", "text": "taking position, he addressed us in"}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:26", "text": "perfect Spanish with no accent in"}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:29", "text": "particular. Welcome. My name is Amaron."}, {"start": "00:23:26", "end": "00:23:32", "text": "I'm not here to hurt you. Relax. Don't"}, {"start": "00:23:29", "end": "00:23:35", "text": "be frightened. I come from a planet that"}, {"start": "00:23:32", "end": "00:23:37", "text": "goes by the name of Ka, which is"}, {"start": "00:23:35", "end": "00:23:41", "text": "pronounced like your letter of the"}, {"start": "00:23:37", "end": "00:23:44", "text": "alphabet, K, I guess. Ka in Spanish. And"}, {"start": "00:23:41", "end": "00:23:47", "text": "it is my home planet. I am as human as"}, {"start": "00:23:44", "end": "00:23:50", "text": "you are."}, {"start": "00:23:47", "end": "00:23:52", "text": "All right. Well, I doubt that very much."}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:55", "text": "Um,"}, {"start": "00:23:52", "end": "00:23:57", "text": "yeah. No one no one with slick back hair"}, {"start": "00:23:55", "end": "00:23:59", "text": "and like this type of appearance just"}, {"start": "00:23:57", "end": "00:24:02", "text": "shows up between two grays and goes,"}, {"start": "00:23:59", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "\"I'm a human like you. We're of the same"}, {"start": "00:24:02", "end": "00:24:09", "text": "ilk, my friend. I would be uh terrified"}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:11", "text": "of this non-human.\""}, {"start": "00:24:09", "end": "00:24:12", "text": "These were more or less his words. I"}, {"start": "00:24:11", "end": "00:24:14", "text": "want to stress that these were not his"}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:17", "text": "exact words. I only remember the idea of"}, {"start": "00:24:14", "end": "00:24:19", "text": "the message. Therefore, I thought I will"}, {"start": "00:24:17", "end": "00:24:21", "text": "stay true to what he told us. the order"}, {"start": "00:24:19", "end": "00:24:23", "text": "of the words or sentences. I'll"}, {"start": "00:24:21", "end": "00:24:26", "text": "transcribe as best as my memory serves"}, {"start": "00:24:23", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "me. If at this very moment you'd stop"}, {"start": "00:24:26", "end": "00:24:30", "text": "reading, close your eyes, and try to"}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:31", "text": "remember word for word a conversation or"}, {"start": "00:24:30", "end": "00:24:34", "text": "a lecture that happened four years ago,"}, {"start": "00:24:31", "end": "00:24:36", "text": "you could not. I'm sure that also you"}, {"start": "00:24:34", "end": "00:24:39", "text": "would only be able to remember the idea"}, {"start": "00:24:36", "end": "00:24:41", "text": "and not every word. I also do my very"}, {"start": "00:24:39", "end": "00:24:43", "text": "best to faithfully transcribe his"}, {"start": "00:24:41", "end": "00:24:46", "text": "revelations given that four years have"}, {"start": "00:24:43", "end": "00:24:47", "text": "passed since my initial experience."}, {"start": "00:24:46", "end": "00:24:51", "text": "Okay, so we're getting a pe a peak into"}, {"start": "00:24:47", "end": "00:24:54", "text": "this. So, this is a 4-year-old"}, {"start": "00:24:51", "end": "00:24:58", "text": "sort of document here. Um, and he does"}, {"start": "00:24:54", "end": "00:25:00", "text": "bring up a valid point. A lot of people"}, {"start": "00:24:58", "end": "00:25:03", "text": "they'll"}, {"start": "00:25:00", "end": "00:25:05", "text": "they won't they'll give experiencers"}, {"start": "00:25:03", "end": "00:25:08", "text": "flack about not remembering certain"}, {"start": "00:25:05", "end": "00:25:10", "text": "details. And, you know, one experiencer"}, {"start": "00:25:08", "end": "00:25:12", "text": "comes to mind, but uh Bob Lazar, the the"}, {"start": "00:25:10", "end": "00:25:15", "text": "OG. Um, you know, people are like, \"How"}, {"start": "00:25:12", "end": "00:25:17", "text": "do you not remember this or that?\" like"}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:19", "text": "could you remember 30 years ago what"}, {"start": "00:25:17", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "your classroom looked like? Could you"}, {"start": "00:25:19", "end": "00:25:23", "text": "describe to me the color of the chairs"}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:26", "text": "in the room? Uh what the clock looked"}, {"start": "00:25:23", "end": "00:25:28", "text": "like, what the window sill color was?"}, {"start": "00:25:26", "end": "00:25:31", "text": "You know, there's so many details that"}, {"start": "00:25:28", "end": "00:25:32", "text": "our mind doesn't feel the need to"}, {"start": "00:25:31", "end": "00:25:35", "text": "remember because it doesn't deem it"}, {"start": "00:25:32", "end": "00:25:36", "text": "important enough. And of course, in"}, {"start": "00:25:35", "end": "00:25:37", "text": "hindsight, you think all of that's"}, {"start": "00:25:36", "end": "00:25:39", "text": "important, but at the time, you really"}, {"start": "00:25:37", "end": "00:25:43", "text": "don't. So, you have to commit things to"}, {"start": "00:25:39", "end": "00:25:45", "text": "memory. And I'm sure that something like"}, {"start": "00:25:43", "end": "00:25:47", "text": "this, just the especially the striking"}, {"start": "00:25:45", "end": "00:25:49", "text": "appearance of these creatures burned"}, {"start": "00:25:47", "end": "00:25:52", "text": "itself into, you know, his neural"}, {"start": "00:25:49", "end": "00:25:53", "text": "pathways. After stating his first words,"}, {"start": "00:25:52", "end": "00:25:56", "text": "he noticed that he didn't quite have our"}, {"start": "00:25:53", "end": "00:25:58", "text": "undivided attention. The truth was that"}, {"start": "00:25:56", "end": "00:26:01", "text": "we were disturbed by the presence of the"}, {"start": "00:25:58", "end": "00:26:03", "text": "little men with the bulging eyes. He"}, {"start": "00:26:01", "end": "00:26:06", "text": "then told us not to be afraid of the"}, {"start": "00:26:03", "end": "00:26:08", "text": "oimas. As he said this, he took one of"}, {"start": "00:26:06", "end": "00:26:10", "text": "them in his arms as if it was a small"}, {"start": "00:26:08", "end": "00:26:13", "text": "child. The creature wrapped his arms"}, {"start": "00:26:10", "end": "00:26:17", "text": "around his neck and his thin legs around"}, {"start": "00:26:13", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "his waist as if carrying a chimpanzee."}, {"start": "00:26:17", "end": "00:26:21", "text": "The man put his hand on the small"}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:23", "text": "being's chin, turned his grotesque head"}, {"start": "00:26:21", "end": "00:26:24", "text": "from side to side while telling us that"}, {"start": "00:26:23", "end": "00:26:27", "text": "there was no reason to be afraid of them"}, {"start": "00:26:24", "end": "00:26:28", "text": "since they were not harmful. They're"}, {"start": "00:26:27", "end": "00:26:32", "text": "made by his people, genetically"}, {"start": "00:26:28", "end": "00:26:36", "text": "constructed, he told us. Whoa. I think"}, {"start": "00:26:32", "end": "00:26:39", "text": "this is the first time"}, {"start": "00:26:36", "end": "00:26:42", "text": "in many cases that I've read"}, {"start": "00:26:39", "end": "00:26:44", "text": "where we are being told by another being"}, {"start": "00:26:42", "end": "00:26:47", "text": "on board"}, {"start": "00:26:44", "end": "00:26:51", "text": "that the creatures are just genetically"}, {"start": "00:26:47", "end": "00:26:54", "text": "modified sort of helpers. Well, I assume"}, {"start": "00:26:51", "end": "00:26:57", "text": "um this is this is really interesting to"}, {"start": "00:26:54", "end": "00:26:59", "text": "me right now. And I also love the idea"}, {"start": "00:26:57", "end": "00:27:01", "text": "that you can just pick one up and it"}, {"start": "00:26:59", "end": "00:27:02", "text": "wraps itself around you like a little"}, {"start": "00:27:01", "end": "00:27:05", "text": "chimpanzee."}, {"start": "00:27:02", "end": "00:27:10", "text": "Um, that is my favorite depiction of a"}, {"start": "00:27:05", "end": "00:27:12", "text": "gray alien and I will henceforth"}, {"start": "00:27:10", "end": "00:27:15", "text": "burn this image into my mind when"}, {"start": "00:27:12", "end": "00:27:19", "text": "thinking about grays. And if I ever come"}, {"start": "00:27:15", "end": "00:27:22", "text": "across a gray, rest assured,"}, {"start": "00:27:19", "end": "00:27:24", "text": "if I haven't soiled my pants, I will"}, {"start": "00:27:22", "end": "00:27:26", "text": "pick it up"}, {"start": "00:27:24", "end": "00:27:29", "text": "and caress it like a little chimpanzee."}, {"start": "00:27:26", "end": "00:27:32", "text": "All right. The omore only blinked"}, {"start": "00:27:29", "end": "00:27:34", "text": "slowly, expressionless."}, {"start": "00:27:32", "end": "00:27:37", "text": "Even after he told us this, they were"}, {"start": "00:27:34", "end": "00:27:38", "text": "still repugnant to me, in my opinion. At"}, {"start": "00:27:37", "end": "00:27:40", "text": "least now I had stopped thinking about"}, {"start": "00:27:38", "end": "00:27:42", "text": "demons, and I began to have a notion of"}, {"start": "00:27:40", "end": "00:27:45", "text": "what was happening. impossible as it"}, {"start": "00:27:42", "end": "00:27:47", "text": "seemed. They were from another world,"}, {"start": "00:27:45", "end": "00:27:50", "text": "another planet. They weren't demons"}, {"start": "00:27:47", "end": "00:27:53", "text": "after all. I actually thought that this"}, {"start": "00:27:50", "end": "00:27:55", "text": "Amaron looked too much like an Earthling"}, {"start": "00:27:53", "end": "00:27:58", "text": "to be an extraterrestrial. On the other"}, {"start": "00:27:55", "end": "00:28:00", "text": "hand, I could see it for the little ones"}, {"start": "00:27:58", "end": "00:28:02", "text": "with the fetal heads."}, {"start": "00:28:00", "end": "00:28:04", "text": "Them I could consider extraterrestrial,"}, {"start": "00:28:02", "end": "00:28:06", "text": "but what did I know? You spoke to us"}, {"start": "00:28:04", "end": "00:28:08", "text": "again."}, {"start": "00:28:06", "end": "00:28:11", "text": "We've brought you here to show you some"}, {"start": "00:28:08", "end": "00:28:11", "text": "projections."}, {"start": "00:28:12", "end": "00:28:18", "text": "In my head, I'm imagining him just like"}, {"start": "00:28:15", "end": "00:28:21", "text": "stats, just a chart."}, {"start": "00:28:18", "end": "00:28:23", "text": "Look, this is the uh this is the current"}, {"start": "00:28:21", "end": "00:28:25", "text": "state of the economy."}, {"start": "00:28:23", "end": "00:28:28", "text": "These are our projections for the third"}, {"start": "00:28:25", "end": "00:28:31", "text": "quarter. Um, all right, enough goofing"}, {"start": "00:28:28", "end": "00:28:33", "text": "around. We have brought you here to show"}, {"start": "00:28:31", "end": "00:28:34", "text": "you some projections."}, {"start": "00:28:33", "end": "00:28:37", "text": "The images you are about to see will"}, {"start": "00:28:34", "end": "00:28:40", "text": "seem real to you, but they're not. They"}, {"start": "00:28:37", "end": "00:28:42", "text": "are multi-dimensional projections. They"}, {"start": "00:28:40", "end": "00:28:45", "text": "will appear to have a mass consistency"}, {"start": "00:28:42", "end": "00:28:48", "text": "and palpable qualities."}, {"start": "00:28:45", "end": "00:28:51", "text": "What you will see will be emotionally"}, {"start": "00:28:48", "end": "00:28:53", "text": "and spiritually strong. Keep in mind"}, {"start": "00:28:51", "end": "00:28:55", "text": "that what you'll be seeing is not really"}, {"start": "00:28:53", "end": "00:29:00", "text": "happening."}, {"start": "00:28:55", "end": "00:29:00", "text": "We'll begin with the first one."}, {"start": "00:29:01", "end": "00:29:06", "text": "Again, I'm strongly reminded of the"}, {"start": "00:29:03", "end": "00:29:08", "text": "Illemore incident where this anonymous"}, {"start": "00:29:06", "end": "00:29:10", "text": "police officer was taken, snapped a"}, {"start": "00:29:08", "end": "00:29:12", "text": "photo of this little creature, but also"}, {"start": "00:29:10", "end": "00:29:15", "text": "said that he was shown projections, not"}, {"start": "00:29:12", "end": "00:29:16", "text": "unlike many other experiencers before"}, {"start": "00:29:15", "end": "00:29:18", "text": "him."}, {"start": "00:29:16", "end": "00:29:20", "text": "But he also said that he was told not to"}, {"start": "00:29:18", "end": "00:29:24", "text": "share those at that time, like they"}, {"start": "00:29:20", "end": "00:29:27", "text": "weren't ready to be shared. And"}, {"start": "00:29:24", "end": "00:29:29", "text": "I'd always wondered, you know,"}, {"start": "00:29:27", "end": "00:29:32", "text": "in my mind,"}, {"start": "00:29:29", "end": "00:29:34", "text": "it can only be like doomsday is is what"}, {"start": "00:29:32", "end": "00:29:35", "text": "I you know, what other projections are"}, {"start": "00:29:34", "end": "00:29:38", "text": "you going to show? Oh, that life's"}, {"start": "00:29:35", "end": "00:29:38", "text": "great."}, {"start": "00:29:38", "end": "00:29:43", "text": "So, we'll see. I got to say, Amorei is a"}, {"start": "00:29:41", "end": "00:29:48", "text": "pretty good writer. I'm uh I I'm"}, {"start": "00:29:43", "end": "00:29:51", "text": "compelled. This is to me anyways. I like"}, {"start": "00:29:48", "end": "00:29:54", "text": "this. You know, he's not fluffing it up"}, {"start": "00:29:51", "end": "00:29:56", "text": "too much. She's given us exactly what he"}, {"start": "00:29:54", "end": "00:29:59", "text": "recalls."}, {"start": "00:29:56", "end": "00:30:01", "text": "Chapter 3, projection number one. This"}, {"start": "00:29:59", "end": "00:30:03", "text": "first projection was really"}, {"start": "00:30:01", "end": "00:30:04", "text": "extraordinary. We were very impressed"}, {"start": "00:30:03", "end": "00:30:08", "text": "with the sudden change in what we were"}, {"start": "00:30:04", "end": "00:30:10", "text": "seeing around us. All of a sudden, that"}, {"start": "00:30:08", "end": "00:30:13", "text": "room without dimensions vanished. And"}, {"start": "00:30:10", "end": "00:30:14", "text": "all around us, a valley appeared. From a"}, {"start": "00:30:13", "end": "00:30:16", "text": "distance, you could see the mountain"}, {"start": "00:30:14", "end": "00:30:19", "text": "silhouettes, trees, grass, and the night"}, {"start": "00:30:16", "end": "00:30:20", "text": "sky. You could see how the wind moved"}, {"start": "00:30:19", "end": "00:30:23", "text": "the branches in the trees, but you"}, {"start": "00:30:20", "end": "00:30:26", "text": "couldn't feel the wind. The effect of"}, {"start": "00:30:23", "end": "00:30:28", "text": "this projection was incredible."}, {"start": "00:30:26", "end": "00:30:30", "text": "What once used to seeing in a movie"}, {"start": "00:30:28", "end": "00:30:32", "text": "theater doesn't come close. It was"}, {"start": "00:30:30", "end": "00:30:34", "text": "totally realistic. The projection was"}, {"start": "00:30:32", "end": "00:30:36", "text": "all around us and it took us to that"}, {"start": "00:30:34", "end": "00:30:38", "text": "place without moving. We all remained in"}, {"start": "00:30:36", "end": "00:30:42", "text": "the same position. The three other"}, {"start": "00:30:38", "end": "00:30:44", "text": "beings were still in the same spot."}, {"start": "00:30:42", "end": "00:30:46", "text": "Something that caught my attention was"}, {"start": "00:30:44", "end": "00:30:50", "text": "that the strange chairs we were sitting"}, {"start": "00:30:46", "end": "00:30:53", "text": "on also transformed into part of that"}, {"start": "00:30:50", "end": "00:30:55", "text": "projection we were witnessing."}, {"start": "00:30:53", "end": "00:30:57", "text": "It was part of the grass that surrounded"}, {"start": "00:30:55", "end": "00:31:00", "text": "us. The strange human remained silent"}, {"start": "00:30:57", "end": "00:31:02", "text": "while his small companions were still at"}, {"start": "00:31:00", "end": "00:31:04", "text": "his side, motionless."}, {"start": "00:31:02", "end": "00:31:06", "text": "My eyes adjusted to the darkness and I"}, {"start": "00:31:04", "end": "00:31:09", "text": "started seeing more clearly. That place"}, {"start": "00:31:06", "end": "00:31:11", "text": "looked like it was in the island."}, {"start": "00:31:09", "end": "00:31:13", "text": "couldn't see houses or lamp posts."}, {"start": "00:31:11", "end": "00:31:16", "text": "Another curious detail was that there"}, {"start": "00:31:13", "end": "00:31:18", "text": "wasn't any sound. If indeed these images"}, {"start": "00:31:16", "end": "00:31:21", "text": "had been taken in the island, you really"}, {"start": "00:31:18", "end": "00:31:25", "text": "couldn't hear the night sounds like from"}, {"start": "00:31:21", "end": "00:31:28", "text": "the crickets or the kque. I'm not sure"}, {"start": "00:31:25", "end": "00:31:29", "text": "what that is. Uh the only sound I heard"}, {"start": "00:31:28", "end": "00:31:32", "text": "was my own breathing and for the most"}, {"start": "00:31:29", "end": "00:31:34", "text": "part felt like I was out of breath and I"}, {"start": "00:31:32", "end": "00:31:36", "text": "was still paralyzed for a moment."}, {"start": "00:31:34", "end": "00:31:38", "text": "Stupidly, I thought about getting up"}, {"start": "00:31:36", "end": "00:31:40", "text": "from my seat or whatever it was and"}, {"start": "00:31:38", "end": "00:31:42", "text": "running through the valley."}, {"start": "00:31:40", "end": "00:31:45", "text": "But where exactly would I go? Running"}, {"start": "00:31:42", "end": "00:31:48", "text": "against a wall if indeed it was walls"}, {"start": "00:31:45", "end": "00:31:50", "text": "that surrounded this place we were in."}, {"start": "00:31:48", "end": "00:31:54", "text": "My absurd thoughts were interrupted by"}, {"start": "00:31:50", "end": "00:31:57", "text": "his serene voice."}, {"start": "00:31:54", "end": "00:32:02", "text": "Observe the sky, he said. This is like"}, {"start": "00:31:57", "end": "00:32:04", "text": "um like a 3D hologram. This is like uh"}, {"start": "00:32:02", "end": "00:32:07", "text": "virtual reality."}, {"start": "00:32:04", "end": "00:32:08", "text": "Like school children guided by our"}, {"start": "00:32:07", "end": "00:32:12", "text": "teacher, we all looked up at the same"}, {"start": "00:32:08", "end": "00:32:16", "text": "time. It was so real. I even saw a"}, {"start": "00:32:12", "end": "00:32:17", "text": "shooting star. Silence, however, made me"}, {"start": "00:32:16", "end": "00:32:20", "text": "uncomfortable."}, {"start": "00:32:17", "end": "00:32:22", "text": "I tried everything to control my panic."}, {"start": "00:32:20", "end": "00:32:25", "text": "As we watched the splendor of the night"}, {"start": "00:32:22", "end": "00:32:27", "text": "sky, he told us not to be alarmed."}, {"start": "00:32:25", "end": "00:32:30", "text": "At that moment, our seats started to"}, {"start": "00:32:27", "end": "00:32:32", "text": "move individually to get a better view."}, {"start": "00:32:30", "end": "00:32:35", "text": "They made no sound."}, {"start": "00:32:32", "end": "00:32:37", "text": "Now the teenager that was at my right"}, {"start": "00:32:35", "end": "00:32:39", "text": "side was behind me. Slowly, we turned"}, {"start": "00:32:37", "end": "00:32:42", "text": "counterclockwise until we were again"}, {"start": "00:32:39", "end": "00:32:45", "text": "facing the human. The movement itself"}, {"start": "00:32:42", "end": "00:32:48", "text": "wasn't rough, but slow and circular. As"}, {"start": "00:32:45", "end": "00:32:50", "text": "soon as we stopped turning,"}, {"start": "00:32:48", "end": "00:32:52", "text": "he informed us that we would be taking a"}, {"start": "00:32:50", "end": "00:32:53", "text": "trip."}, {"start": "00:32:52", "end": "00:32:55", "text": "All of a sudden, it seemed like we were"}, {"start": "00:32:53", "end": "00:32:57", "text": "taking off. The ground looked further"}, {"start": "00:32:55", "end": "00:33:00", "text": "and further away, yet we could still"}, {"start": "00:32:57", "end": "00:33:02", "text": "feel it beneath our feet. I thought I"}, {"start": "00:33:00", "end": "00:33:03", "text": "would fall and lose consciousness. My"}, {"start": "00:33:02", "end": "00:33:06", "text": "body became even more tense and I felt"}, {"start": "00:33:03", "end": "00:33:08", "text": "it about to snap. I considered that"}, {"start": "00:33:06", "end": "00:33:11", "text": "maybe all this wasn't really happening,"}, {"start": "00:33:08", "end": "00:33:13", "text": "that it was just a horrible nightmare."}, {"start": "00:33:11", "end": "00:33:15", "text": "We kept climbing and I had to close my"}, {"start": "00:33:13", "end": "00:33:17", "text": "eyes. I was still under the impression"}, {"start": "00:33:15", "end": "00:33:19", "text": "that I would fall. I then remembered"}, {"start": "00:33:17", "end": "00:33:21", "text": "what the human guide had told us about"}, {"start": "00:33:19", "end": "00:33:24", "text": "it only being a projection. And I opened"}, {"start": "00:33:21", "end": "00:33:26", "text": "my eyes. We now found ourselves over the"}, {"start": "00:33:24", "end": "00:33:28", "text": "trees. I couldn't resist, though. It"}, {"start": "00:33:26", "end": "00:33:30", "text": "seemed too real to just be a projection."}, {"start": "00:33:28", "end": "00:33:32", "text": "So, I closed my eyes again. With a great"}, {"start": "00:33:30", "end": "00:33:34", "text": "effort, I managed to put my hands"}, {"start": "00:33:32", "end": "00:33:36", "text": "beneath my legs."}, {"start": "00:33:34", "end": "00:33:38", "text": "It was then that I realized I could"}, {"start": "00:33:36", "end": "00:33:40", "text": "move. My head was about to explode and I"}, {"start": "00:33:38", "end": "00:33:42", "text": "felt nauseous."}, {"start": "00:33:40", "end": "00:33:45", "text": "What I find interesting here, folks, is"}, {"start": "00:33:42", "end": "00:33:47", "text": "that this being 4 years after he was"}, {"start": "00:33:45", "end": "00:33:50", "text": "taken, so he was taken in ' 88. This"}, {"start": "00:33:47", "end": "00:33:52", "text": "would have been in '92."}, {"start": "00:33:50", "end": "00:33:56", "text": "Virtual reality wasn't really a thing."}, {"start": "00:33:52", "end": "00:33:58", "text": "So, describing virtual reality in 1992"}, {"start": "00:33:56", "end": "00:34:00", "text": "and the feeling, we all know that if"}, {"start": "00:33:58", "end": "00:34:03", "text": "you've taken a roller coaster ride or an"}, {"start": "00:34:00", "end": "00:34:05", "text": "elevator ride or have played the plank"}, {"start": "00:34:03", "end": "00:34:09", "text": "game in VR, you're all too familiar with"}, {"start": "00:34:05", "end": "00:34:12", "text": "the feeling of rising and how the brain,"}, {"start": "00:34:09", "end": "00:34:15", "text": "although it knows"}, {"start": "00:34:12", "end": "00:34:17", "text": "you're stationary,"}, {"start": "00:34:15", "end": "00:34:20", "text": "still"}, {"start": "00:34:17", "end": "00:34:23", "text": "tricks your mind into believing that you"}, {"start": "00:34:20", "end": "00:34:26", "text": "are in motion. And that causes so a sort"}, {"start": "00:34:23", "end": "00:34:27", "text": "of queasy, you know, uneasy feeling"}, {"start": "00:34:26", "end": "00:34:30", "text": "almost like that feeling you get when"}, {"start": "00:34:27", "end": "00:34:32", "text": "riding an elevator or driving over like,"}, {"start": "00:34:30", "end": "00:34:35", "text": "you know, a small hill. You get this"}, {"start": "00:34:32", "end": "00:34:37", "text": "like butterfly sensation"}, {"start": "00:34:35", "end": "00:34:39", "text": "and it can it can really knock you off"}, {"start": "00:34:37", "end": "00:34:41", "text": "kilter."}, {"start": "00:34:39", "end": "00:34:43", "text": "You know, you've seen videos of people"}, {"start": "00:34:41", "end": "00:34:45", "text": "falling over in VR. I just find it"}, {"start": "00:34:43", "end": "00:34:48", "text": "really compelling actually that this"}, {"start": "00:34:45", "end": "00:34:50", "text": "person is describing that and we're"}, {"start": "00:34:48", "end": "00:34:55", "text": "talking about perhaps 20 years before"}, {"start": "00:34:50", "end": "00:34:55", "text": "the technology even came out."}, {"start": "00:34:55", "end": "00:34:58", "text": "What do you guys think about that? I"}, {"start": "00:34:57", "end": "00:35:01", "text": "think that's an interesting point to"}, {"start": "00:34:58", "end": "00:35:03", "text": "make. All of a sudden, we stopped"}, {"start": "00:35:01", "end": "00:35:05", "text": "climbing and I opened my eyes, my face"}, {"start": "00:35:03", "end": "00:35:07", "text": "covered in sweat and tears. I looked to"}, {"start": "00:35:05", "end": "00:35:09", "text": "the man and his artificial beings."}, {"start": "00:35:07", "end": "00:35:12", "text": "Surprisingly, they looked as if"}, {"start": "00:35:09", "end": "00:35:13", "text": "suspended in midair. Not floating, but"}, {"start": "00:35:12", "end": "00:35:16", "text": "more like standing firmly on an"}, {"start": "00:35:13", "end": "00:35:18", "text": "invisible platform. I suppose that from"}, {"start": "00:35:16", "end": "00:35:20", "text": "their perspective, we would have looked"}, {"start": "00:35:18", "end": "00:35:23", "text": "like we were suspended in air, also"}, {"start": "00:35:20", "end": "00:35:24", "text": "seated on invisible chairs. They had"}, {"start": "00:35:23", "end": "00:35:26", "text": "stopped us a little further up from the"}, {"start": "00:35:24", "end": "00:35:28", "text": "trees."}, {"start": "00:35:26", "end": "00:35:30", "text": "One could see the ocean's reflection in"}, {"start": "00:35:28", "end": "00:35:33", "text": "the distance."}, {"start": "00:35:30", "end": "00:35:35", "text": "The feeling of being that high had me"}, {"start": "00:35:33", "end": "00:35:37", "text": "terrorized. My body was trembling"}, {"start": "00:35:35", "end": "00:35:39", "text": "uncontrollably."}, {"start": "00:35:37", "end": "00:35:41", "text": "The mountain silhouettes looked like"}, {"start": "00:35:39", "end": "00:35:44", "text": "hills."}, {"start": "00:35:41", "end": "00:35:46", "text": "I didn't want to look yet. I also"}, {"start": "00:35:44", "end": "00:35:49", "text": "couldn't look away from what I was"}, {"start": "00:35:46", "end": "00:35:52", "text": "witnessing around me."}, {"start": "00:35:49", "end": "00:35:56", "text": "\"We are located over your world,\" he"}, {"start": "00:35:52", "end": "00:35:58", "text": "said. Again, we slowly started to climb."}, {"start": "00:35:56", "end": "00:36:00", "text": "I kept telling myself this was only an"}, {"start": "00:35:58", "end": "00:36:03", "text": "illusion, a movie of sorts, and that I"}, {"start": "00:36:00", "end": "00:36:04", "text": "shouldn't be afraid. However, it was of"}, {"start": "00:36:03", "end": "00:36:07", "text": "no use."}, {"start": "00:36:04", "end": "00:36:09", "text": "A smog and smoke engulfed us and I"}, {"start": "00:36:07", "end": "00:36:11", "text": "realized that we were going through some"}, {"start": "00:36:09", "end": "00:36:14", "text": "clouds. We were leaving earth behind"}, {"start": "00:36:11", "end": "00:36:15", "text": "beneath our feet."}, {"start": "00:36:14", "end": "00:36:17", "text": "I felt rage and anger towards those"}, {"start": "00:36:15", "end": "00:36:20", "text": "small creatures that had brought to this"}, {"start": "00:36:17", "end": "00:36:23", "text": "hell. The human again reminded us to"}, {"start": "00:36:20", "end": "00:36:26", "text": "keep in mind that what we were observing"}, {"start": "00:36:23", "end": "00:36:28", "text": "were only projected images. Personally,"}, {"start": "00:36:26", "end": "00:36:30", "text": "I still found it hard to believe. We"}, {"start": "00:36:28", "end": "00:36:33", "text": "kept climbing until we saw the earth the"}, {"start": "00:36:30", "end": "00:36:36", "text": "size of a basketball. We stopped. It got"}, {"start": "00:36:33", "end": "00:36:38", "text": "to be the size of a golf ball. In those"}, {"start": "00:36:36", "end": "00:36:40", "text": "agonyfilled moments, I realized that I"}, {"start": "00:36:38", "end": "00:36:43", "text": "hadn't paid any attention to the 14"}, {"start": "00:36:40", "end": "00:36:46", "text": "other people. I could barely stand my"}, {"start": "00:36:43", "end": "00:36:48", "text": "own situation. Though I assure you, no"}, {"start": "00:36:46", "end": "00:36:49", "text": "one spoke."}, {"start": "00:36:48", "end": "00:36:52", "text": "I'm pretty sure I heard some sighing,"}, {"start": "00:36:49", "end": "00:36:54", "text": "crying, and vomiting or trying to. I can"}, {"start": "00:36:52", "end": "00:36:58", "text": "only say I felt very insignificant when"}, {"start": "00:36:54", "end": "00:36:59", "text": "facing such grandeur."}, {"start": "00:36:58", "end": "00:37:02", "text": "I thought about that night in Mama's"}, {"start": "00:36:59", "end": "00:37:04", "text": "house when the power went out. The night"}, {"start": "00:37:02", "end": "00:37:06", "text": "of the stars."}, {"start": "00:37:04", "end": "00:37:08", "text": "Is there any connection?"}, {"start": "00:37:06", "end": "00:37:10", "text": "Although we were supposedly far away"}, {"start": "00:37:08", "end": "00:37:12", "text": "from Earth, the stars looked as far away"}, {"start": "00:37:10", "end": "00:37:15", "text": "from the planet surface."}, {"start": "00:37:12", "end": "00:37:17", "text": "Not knowing exactly how or when, the"}, {"start": "00:37:15", "end": "00:37:19", "text": "dizziness and nausea gave way to marvel"}, {"start": "00:37:17", "end": "00:37:21", "text": "and fascination."}, {"start": "00:37:19", "end": "00:37:24", "text": "While observing the sky, there appeared"}, {"start": "00:37:21", "end": "00:37:27", "text": "a circle of light"}, {"start": "00:37:24", "end": "00:37:28", "text": "like a halo. The human informed us that"}, {"start": "00:37:27", "end": "00:37:30", "text": "the star encircled in the halo was"}, {"start": "00:37:28", "end": "00:37:33", "text": "located around his home planet's"}, {"start": "00:37:30", "end": "00:37:35", "text": "neighborhood, but that the actual star"}, {"start": "00:37:33", "end": "00:37:38", "text": "or sun around which his planet revolved"}, {"start": "00:37:35", "end": "00:37:42", "text": "was much further away. He told us that"}, {"start": "00:37:38", "end": "00:37:42", "text": "this is where we were headed."}, {"start": "00:37:44", "end": "00:37:50", "text": "Suddenly, the stars seemed to move, but"}, {"start": "00:37:46", "end": "00:37:51", "text": "it was actually us that were moving."}, {"start": "00:37:50", "end": "00:37:54", "text": "I had always thought that the stars were"}, {"start": "00:37:51", "end": "00:37:56", "text": "scattered between the moons and planets."}, {"start": "00:37:54", "end": "00:37:59", "text": "But if this trip was genuine, it's not"}, {"start": "00:37:56", "end": "00:38:01", "text": "like that at all. We sped up. The speed"}, {"start": "00:37:59", "end": "00:38:03", "text": "came back. The vertigo."}, {"start": "00:38:01", "end": "00:38:06", "text": "The halo was gone and the stars turned"}, {"start": "00:38:03", "end": "00:38:10", "text": "into colored rays of light. We crossed"}, {"start": "00:38:06", "end": "00:38:12", "text": "the supposed space at tremendous speed."}, {"start": "00:38:10", "end": "00:38:14", "text": "It felt as if being in a whirlwind of"}, {"start": "00:38:12", "end": "00:38:17", "text": "colors. Now it seemed we started to slow"}, {"start": "00:38:14", "end": "00:38:19", "text": "down. The colors turned to white rays"}, {"start": "00:38:17", "end": "00:38:22", "text": "that formed a sort of tunnel. Then"}, {"start": "00:38:19", "end": "00:38:23", "text": "again, we saw the stars. And among them"}, {"start": "00:38:22", "end": "00:38:26", "text": "was the enormous one that looked very"}, {"start": "00:38:23", "end": "00:38:28", "text": "close to us. Around you, you could see"}, {"start": "00:38:26", "end": "00:38:30", "text": "what seemed to be planets. Again, I"}, {"start": "00:38:28", "end": "00:38:33", "text": "could see the halo around that star. The"}, {"start": "00:38:30", "end": "00:38:35", "text": "human told us that this was Ka's son and"}, {"start": "00:38:33", "end": "00:38:37", "text": "that Ka was the mother planet of the"}, {"start": "00:38:35", "end": "00:38:40", "text": "solar system. And to all those who"}, {"start": "00:38:37", "end": "00:38:41", "text": "inhabited all the planets in that"}, {"start": "00:38:40", "end": "00:38:43", "text": "system,"}, {"start": "00:38:41", "end": "00:38:47", "text": "the first humans of that solar system"}, {"start": "00:38:43", "end": "00:38:49", "text": "were created and placed on Ka. When this"}, {"start": "00:38:47", "end": "00:38:51", "text": "part of humanity extended throughout the"}, {"start": "00:38:49", "end": "00:38:54", "text": "entire planet and there was no more room"}, {"start": "00:38:51", "end": "00:38:55", "text": "left, they immigrated and formed"}, {"start": "00:38:54", "end": "00:38:57", "text": "colonies in the neighboring planets."}, {"start": "00:38:55", "end": "00:39:00", "text": "When saturated, they repeated the"}, {"start": "00:38:57", "end": "00:39:01", "text": "process. In many of these planets, there"}, {"start": "00:39:00", "end": "00:39:05", "text": "weren't the necessary elements to"}, {"start": "00:39:01", "end": "00:39:06", "text": "sustain life or that of their animals."}, {"start": "00:39:05", "end": "00:39:09", "text": "But they were able to condition such"}, {"start": "00:39:06", "end": "00:39:11", "text": "planets to sustain all kinds of life."}, {"start": "00:39:09", "end": "00:39:13", "text": "They created seas where there were none,"}, {"start": "00:39:11", "end": "00:39:16", "text": "and they transformed the atmospheres to"}, {"start": "00:39:13", "end": "00:39:18", "text": "make them suitable. In the same manner"}, {"start": "00:39:16", "end": "00:39:20", "text": "have other humanities across the"}, {"start": "00:39:18", "end": "00:39:23", "text": "infinite cosmos done this the human"}, {"start": "00:39:20", "end": "00:39:26", "text": "sentenced."}, {"start": "00:39:23", "end": "00:39:29", "text": "But of course with one exception."}, {"start": "00:39:26", "end": "00:39:31", "text": "They have indeed expanded, created and"}, {"start": "00:39:29", "end": "00:39:33", "text": "grown both physically and spiritually."}, {"start": "00:39:31", "end": "00:39:36", "text": "But in your world, the one you call"}, {"start": "00:39:33", "end": "00:39:40", "text": "Earth, you've done nothing but destroy,"}, {"start": "00:39:36", "end": "00:39:42", "text": "contaminate, and spiritually decline."}, {"start": "00:39:40", "end": "00:39:46", "text": "You've even contaminated your side reel"}, {"start": "00:39:42", "end": "00:39:50", "text": "space. your supposed far horizons. All"}, {"start": "00:39:46", "end": "00:39:52", "text": "of Ka's sons are autosufficient."}, {"start": "00:39:50", "end": "00:39:57", "text": "But its loving government comes from the"}, {"start": "00:39:52", "end": "00:39:59", "text": "mother planet. Now we will go to K. We"}, {"start": "00:39:57", "end": "00:40:01", "text": "felt a tremendous movement that led us"}, {"start": "00:39:59", "end": "00:40:03", "text": "to one of those planets, the one closest"}, {"start": "00:40:01", "end": "00:40:05", "text": "to that bright star."}, {"start": "00:40:03", "end": "00:40:07", "text": "You could see various clouds and the"}, {"start": "00:40:05", "end": "00:40:09", "text": "more we approached it, the more it"}, {"start": "00:40:07", "end": "00:40:12", "text": "looked like Earth. We started descending"}, {"start": "00:40:09", "end": "00:40:15", "text": "towards Ka or whatever that place was."}, {"start": "00:40:12", "end": "00:40:17", "text": "Its topography was different from ours."}, {"start": "00:40:15", "end": "00:40:18", "text": "What looked like firm land occupied a"}, {"start": "00:40:17", "end": "00:40:21", "text": "great deal of the planet surface."}, {"start": "00:40:18", "end": "00:40:24", "text": "Instead of big fragments of land, such"}, {"start": "00:40:21", "end": "00:40:27", "text": "as we know as continents, there was only"}, {"start": "00:40:24", "end": "00:40:29", "text": "one that surrounded by an ocean."}, {"start": "00:40:27", "end": "00:40:31", "text": "Maybe there were more, but at least we"}, {"start": "00:40:29", "end": "00:40:33", "text": "couldn't see them. We went down through"}, {"start": "00:40:31", "end": "00:40:35", "text": "the white shiny clouds. Its hills, the"}, {"start": "00:40:33", "end": "00:40:37", "text": "green, and its rock formations were"}, {"start": "00:40:35", "end": "00:40:39", "text": "pretty much identical to Earth. I did"}, {"start": "00:40:37", "end": "00:40:42", "text": "notice something different, but I"}, {"start": "00:40:39", "end": "00:40:45", "text": "couldn't quite put my finger on it."}, {"start": "00:40:42", "end": "00:40:47", "text": "The most notable difference, and I was"}, {"start": "00:40:45", "end": "00:40:49", "text": "able to verify this later, was the"}, {"start": "00:40:47", "end": "00:40:51", "text": "abundance of flowers everywhere. All"}, {"start": "00:40:49", "end": "00:40:54", "text": "kinds of wild and garden flowers that"}, {"start": "00:40:51", "end": "00:40:56", "text": "had bright and attractive colors. The"}, {"start": "00:40:54", "end": "00:40:58", "text": "blue sky dotted with cotton stains, the"}, {"start": "00:40:56", "end": "00:41:00", "text": "floor's green accentuated with multiple"}, {"start": "00:40:58", "end": "00:41:04", "text": "flower colors, and the blue sea made"}, {"start": "00:41:00", "end": "00:41:05", "text": "this place the stuff of dreams."}, {"start": "00:41:04", "end": "00:41:07", "text": "In spite of all this, the notion of"}, {"start": "00:41:05", "end": "00:41:09", "text": "height still destroyed any moment of"}, {"start": "00:41:07", "end": "00:41:12", "text": "fascination I had."}, {"start": "00:41:09", "end": "00:41:14", "text": "It was a sunny day with only a few"}, {"start": "00:41:12", "end": "00:41:16", "text": "scattered clouds. In the distance, I"}, {"start": "00:41:14", "end": "00:41:18", "text": "started to make out what looked like an"}, {"start": "00:41:16", "end": "00:41:20", "text": "Indian village. We stopped over a"}, {"start": "00:41:18", "end": "00:41:22", "text": "beautiful forest just at a prudent"}, {"start": "00:41:20", "end": "00:41:24", "text": "distance from the village. I could see"}, {"start": "00:41:22", "end": "00:41:26", "text": "animals moving between trees, but I"}, {"start": "00:41:24", "end": "00:41:28", "text": "couldn't make out what kind of animals"}, {"start": "00:41:26", "end": "00:41:31", "text": "they were. I could also see people"}, {"start": "00:41:28", "end": "00:41:32", "text": "running and walking. The human, still in"}, {"start": "00:41:31", "end": "00:41:35", "text": "his original position with the little"}, {"start": "00:41:32", "end": "00:41:40", "text": "beings at his side, told us, \"Welcome to"}, {"start": "00:41:35", "end": "00:41:42", "text": "my home planet, Ka. Now meet my people."}, {"start": "00:41:40", "end": "00:41:44", "text": "We all started to slide through the air"}, {"start": "00:41:42", "end": "00:41:47", "text": "over the trees towards the village or"}, {"start": "00:41:44", "end": "00:41:49", "text": "town. As we drew closer, I started to"}, {"start": "00:41:47", "end": "00:41:51", "text": "realize that what had looked like tents"}, {"start": "00:41:49", "end": "00:41:53", "text": "were actually pyramid-shaped structures."}, {"start": "00:41:51", "end": "00:41:55", "text": "They were made out of some type of"}, {"start": "00:41:53", "end": "00:41:58", "text": "semi-transparent multicolored polished"}, {"start": "00:41:55", "end": "00:42:00", "text": "glass. We were then told that these"}, {"start": "00:41:58", "end": "00:42:01", "text": "pyramids were the homes of this group of"}, {"start": "00:42:00", "end": "00:42:05", "text": "people. 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It was so brilliant"}, {"start": "00:42:38", "end": "00:42:45", "text": "and colorful that it was almost unreal."}, {"start": "00:42:42", "end": "00:42:47", "text": "The reds, turquoise, blues, purples, and"}, {"start": "00:42:45", "end": "00:42:49", "text": "many other colors of their houses along"}, {"start": "00:42:47", "end": "00:42:51", "text": "with the rest of the colors of that"}, {"start": "00:42:49", "end": "00:42:53", "text": "place complemented this whole visual"}, {"start": "00:42:51", "end": "00:42:55", "text": "explosion."}, {"start": "00:42:53", "end": "00:42:57", "text": "I'd never seen such beauty."}, {"start": "00:42:55", "end": "00:43:00", "text": "In the pool, there were children and"}, {"start": "00:42:57", "end": "00:43:02", "text": "adults playing and bathing. Something I"}, {"start": "00:43:00", "end": "00:43:05", "text": "should mention, and maybe some of you"}, {"start": "00:43:02", "end": "00:43:08", "text": "will find it offensive, is that none of"}, {"start": "00:43:05", "end": "00:43:11", "text": "these people were wearing clothes."}, {"start": "00:43:08", "end": "00:43:14", "text": "I don't know about you, but that is not"}, {"start": "00:43:11", "end": "00:43:17", "text": "I'm not offended by that."}, {"start": "00:43:14", "end": "00:43:20", "text": "Perhaps uh people"}, {"start": "00:43:17", "end": "00:43:24", "text": "with a little bit more of a modest"}, {"start": "00:43:20", "end": "00:43:24", "text": "disposition might be offended."}, {"start": "00:43:24", "end": "00:43:31", "text": "I like this by the way. You know, I'm"}, {"start": "00:43:28", "end": "00:43:34", "text": "completely"}, {"start": "00:43:31", "end": "00:43:38", "text": "um absolved of"}, {"start": "00:43:34", "end": "00:43:41", "text": "disbelief at this point. I want to live"}, {"start": "00:43:38", "end": "00:43:44", "text": "here now. I want to go to CA. Please"}, {"start": "00:43:41", "end": "00:43:46", "text": "take me. I would love to see this place."}, {"start": "00:43:44", "end": "00:43:48", "text": "It looks amazing. Sounds amazing. Our"}, {"start": "00:43:46", "end": "00:43:50", "text": "seats moved again and we were able to"}, {"start": "00:43:48", "end": "00:43:52", "text": "see everything around us. In the"}, {"start": "00:43:50", "end": "00:43:53", "text": "distance, you could see other pockets of"}, {"start": "00:43:52", "end": "00:43:55", "text": "people similar to this one and that"}, {"start": "00:43:53", "end": "00:43:57", "text": "connected with each other through some"}, {"start": "00:43:55", "end": "00:43:59", "text": "bigger trails. While we slowly turned,"}, {"start": "00:43:57", "end": "00:44:02", "text": "we descended, or at least we were under"}, {"start": "00:43:59", "end": "00:44:05", "text": "the impression we descended to that"}, {"start": "00:44:02", "end": "00:44:07", "text": "plaza. The people surrounded us. All"}, {"start": "00:44:05", "end": "00:44:09", "text": "were naked and smiling at us. In the"}, {"start": "00:44:07", "end": "00:44:10", "text": "crowd, you could see mothers carrying"}, {"start": "00:44:09", "end": "00:44:14", "text": "their children in their arms. Everyone"}, {"start": "00:44:10", "end": "00:44:17", "text": "looked happy and in good health."}, {"start": "00:44:14", "end": "00:44:18", "text": "The human told us that these were the c"}, {"start": "00:44:17", "end": "00:44:20", "text": "people."}, {"start": "00:44:18", "end": "00:44:23", "text": "We saw people from every race, black,"}, {"start": "00:44:20", "end": "00:44:24", "text": "white, Asian, etc. They were all"}, {"start": "00:44:23", "end": "00:44:26", "text": "different heights and had different"}, {"start": "00:44:24", "end": "00:44:29", "text": "colored hairs. Our seats kept turning,"}, {"start": "00:44:26", "end": "00:44:30", "text": "so we were able to get a good look. I"}, {"start": "00:44:29", "end": "00:44:32", "text": "imagine that these people who were"}, {"start": "00:44:30", "end": "00:44:35", "text": "waving at us were informed beforehand of"}, {"start": "00:44:32", "end": "00:44:37", "text": "the use those recorded images would be"}, {"start": "00:44:35", "end": "00:44:39", "text": "given. I think that they were smiling"}, {"start": "00:44:37", "end": "00:44:41", "text": "and waving at someone holding a camera."}, {"start": "00:44:39", "end": "00:44:42", "text": "However, now it just gave me the"}, {"start": "00:44:41", "end": "00:44:45", "text": "impression that they could actually see"}, {"start": "00:44:42", "end": "00:44:47", "text": "us. That is wild that that's where his"}, {"start": "00:44:45", "end": "00:44:48", "text": "mind goes."}, {"start": "00:44:47", "end": "00:44:51", "text": "You know, he's telling us about this"}, {"start": "00:44:48", "end": "00:44:53", "text": "experience, but he can't stop bringing"}, {"start": "00:44:51", "end": "00:44:56", "text": "himself back to the fact that this isn't"}, {"start": "00:44:53", "end": "00:44:58", "text": "real. Like, it's blowing his mind, and"}, {"start": "00:44:56", "end": "00:45:01", "text": "it's very immersive, but he's also like,"}, {"start": "00:44:58", "end": "00:45:02", "text": "I wonder if they're just smiling at a"}, {"start": "00:45:01", "end": "00:45:04", "text": "camera."}, {"start": "00:45:02", "end": "00:45:07", "text": "So interesting."}, {"start": "00:45:04", "end": "00:45:08", "text": "It was all incredibly real. How could"}, {"start": "00:45:07", "end": "00:45:11", "text": "this just be a projection? They all"}, {"start": "00:45:08", "end": "00:45:12", "text": "looked so alive."}, {"start": "00:45:11", "end": "00:45:15", "text": "The only thing out of the ordinary was"}, {"start": "00:45:12", "end": "00:45:17", "text": "the silence. Although I could see them"}, {"start": "00:45:15", "end": "00:45:19", "text": "laughing, talking amongst themselves, we"}, {"start": "00:45:17", "end": "00:45:21", "text": "couldn't hear anything. Some women"}, {"start": "00:45:19", "end": "00:45:23", "text": "decorated their hair with different"}, {"start": "00:45:21", "end": "00:45:26", "text": "colored flowers. I even saw a dog"}, {"start": "00:45:23", "end": "00:45:27", "text": "barking in utter silence. If it hadn't"}, {"start": "00:45:26", "end": "00:45:30", "text": "been for the way in which their homes"}, {"start": "00:45:27", "end": "00:45:32", "text": "were built in the immense pool, I could"}, {"start": "00:45:30", "end": "00:45:35", "text": "have mistaken them for some tribe of"}, {"start": "00:45:32", "end": "00:45:37", "text": "primitive Indians."}, {"start": "00:45:35", "end": "00:45:39", "text": "Are these people extraterrestrial? I"}, {"start": "00:45:37", "end": "00:45:42", "text": "asked myself. A tribe comprised of all"}, {"start": "00:45:39", "end": "00:45:44", "text": "human races. But where were their"}, {"start": "00:45:42", "end": "00:45:46", "text": "lasers, their robots, and super"}, {"start": "00:45:44", "end": "00:45:49", "text": "high-tech cars? Where was their bright"}, {"start": "00:45:46", "end": "00:45:52", "text": "silvercoled clothing, their houses?"}, {"start": "00:45:49", "end": "00:45:55", "text": "Where were their imperial cities?"}, {"start": "00:45:52", "end": "00:45:57", "text": "Indians? Where were the 7-ft tall beings"}, {"start": "00:45:55", "end": "00:46:00", "text": "with the eyes in the forehead or little"}, {"start": "00:45:57", "end": "00:46:02", "text": "green men with antenna on their heads?"}, {"start": "00:46:00", "end": "00:46:04", "text": "We kept closing in and I could see"}, {"start": "00:46:02", "end": "00:46:06", "text": "various animals. The crowd gave way to"}, {"start": "00:46:04", "end": "00:46:08", "text": "those who were bringing out animals. A"}, {"start": "00:46:06", "end": "00:46:11", "text": "little boy showed us a lion which he"}, {"start": "00:46:08", "end": "00:46:13", "text": "guided with the mane. We were shown"}, {"start": "00:46:11", "end": "00:46:16", "text": "hens, roosters, monkeys, and very"}, {"start": "00:46:13", "end": "00:46:18", "text": "beautiful birds. We were also able to"}, {"start": "00:46:16", "end": "00:46:21", "text": "see, to our astonishment, an animal"}, {"start": "00:46:18", "end": "00:46:24", "text": "already extinct on Earth, something akin"}, {"start": "00:46:21", "end": "00:46:27", "text": "to a dinosaur. Horses, cows, camels, and"}, {"start": "00:46:24", "end": "00:46:30", "text": "many others we were shown."}, {"start": "00:46:27", "end": "00:46:33", "text": "We stopped and the crowd parted."}, {"start": "00:46:30", "end": "00:46:37", "text": "Supposedly had done the Red Sea. Before"}, {"start": "00:46:33", "end": "00:46:39", "text": "our very eyes, a gigantic pool appeared."}, {"start": "00:46:37", "end": "00:46:42", "text": "Then something spectacular happened."}, {"start": "00:46:39", "end": "00:46:44", "text": "From its center came a water surge like"}, {"start": "00:46:42", "end": "00:46:46", "text": "a fountain. The people cheered when they"}, {"start": "00:46:44", "end": "00:46:49", "text": "got wet. The happiness on their faces"}, {"start": "00:46:46", "end": "00:46:51", "text": "made me smile slightly. When the water"}, {"start": "00:46:49", "end": "00:46:55", "text": "column receded, four dolphins jumped in"}, {"start": "00:46:51", "end": "00:46:57", "text": "the air. What was amazing about this and"}, {"start": "00:46:55", "end": "00:46:59", "text": "is that on their backs rode four little"}, {"start": "00:46:57", "end": "00:47:01", "text": "black children as if they were on"}, {"start": "00:46:59", "end": "00:47:04", "text": "horseback. When the dolphins reached"}, {"start": "00:47:01", "end": "00:47:06", "text": "their maximum height, the children took"}, {"start": "00:47:04", "end": "00:47:08", "text": "to the air doing a somersault and"}, {"start": "00:47:06", "end": "00:47:10", "text": "landing on the water at the same time as"}, {"start": "00:47:08", "end": "00:47:12", "text": "the dolphin. The people who looked like"}, {"start": "00:47:10", "end": "00:47:15", "text": "they had glitter from the sun's"}, {"start": "00:47:12", "end": "00:47:17", "text": "reflection on their hair clapped and"}, {"start": "00:47:15", "end": "00:47:21", "text": "laughed. The dolphins escorted the"}, {"start": "00:47:17", "end": "00:47:23", "text": "children to the side of the pool."}, {"start": "00:47:21", "end": "00:47:25", "text": "The water again surged and the children"}, {"start": "00:47:23", "end": "00:47:27", "text": "came up to us wet from head to toe,"}, {"start": "00:47:25", "end": "00:47:29", "text": "smiling and proud. They took each"}, {"start": "00:47:27", "end": "00:47:31", "text": "other's hands and bowed as actors would"}, {"start": "00:47:29", "end": "00:47:33", "text": "do at the end of a play. and they ran"}, {"start": "00:47:31", "end": "00:47:35", "text": "off in different directions. The Red Sea"}, {"start": "00:47:33", "end": "00:47:37", "text": "came together. The surge stopped and our"}, {"start": "00:47:35", "end": "00:47:39", "text": "chair slowly came to a halt in front of"}, {"start": "00:47:37", "end": "00:47:41", "text": "the human and his two creatures. His"}, {"start": "00:47:39", "end": "00:47:47", "text": "voice startled me after all that"}, {"start": "00:47:41", "end": "00:47:50", "text": "silence. I'm sorry. This to me is far"}, {"start": "00:47:47", "end": "00:47:54", "text": "more terrifying than two little alien"}, {"start": "00:47:50", "end": "00:47:56", "text": "beings, two little chimplike grays. Um,"}, {"start": "00:47:54", "end": "00:47:59", "text": "the notion"}, {"start": "00:47:56", "end": "00:48:02", "text": "of just people laughing and clapping"}, {"start": "00:47:59", "end": "00:48:04", "text": "with no sound and dolphins coming out"}, {"start": "00:48:02", "end": "00:48:07", "text": "and children riding their back and doing"}, {"start": "00:48:04", "end": "00:48:09", "text": "somersaults and like taking a bow. I'd"}, {"start": "00:48:07", "end": "00:48:13", "text": "be concerned that I had overdosed on"}, {"start": "00:48:09", "end": "00:48:18", "text": "DMT. This is an incredible sighting and"}, {"start": "00:48:13", "end": "00:48:18", "text": "absolutely 100% terrifying."}, {"start": "00:48:18", "end": "00:48:24", "text": "This is my birthplace."}, {"start": "00:48:20", "end": "00:48:29", "text": "We call this town no which means in our"}, {"start": "00:48:24", "end": "00:48:32", "text": "tongue traveler. I am known as a no."}, {"start": "00:48:29", "end": "00:48:36", "text": "There are many of us nos that have been"}, {"start": "00:48:32", "end": "00:48:39", "text": "born here. As you might be able to tell"}, {"start": "00:48:36", "end": "00:48:41", "text": "there aren't elderly people among us. It"}, {"start": "00:48:39", "end": "00:48:44", "text": "was true. There was no old people only"}, {"start": "00:48:41", "end": "00:48:48", "text": "children and adults. He also informed us"}, {"start": "00:48:44", "end": "00:48:51", "text": "that his people didn't age or die. that"}, {"start": "00:48:48", "end": "00:48:53", "text": "life is continuous. They grow up to be"}, {"start": "00:48:51", "end": "00:48:55", "text": "about the equivalent of 25 of our years"}, {"start": "00:48:53", "end": "00:48:57", "text": "and then they stop. They do suffer"}, {"start": "00:48:55", "end": "00:48:59", "text": "accidents though and bleed and feel"}, {"start": "00:48:57", "end": "00:49:01", "text": "pain. But their bodies are capable of"}, {"start": "00:48:59", "end": "00:49:04", "text": "regenerating very quickly. Their world"}, {"start": "00:49:01", "end": "00:49:06", "text": "is free from harmful bacteria and if any"}, {"start": "00:49:04", "end": "00:49:09", "text": "traveler were to bring back from far"}, {"start": "00:49:06", "end": "00:49:11", "text": "away places such bacteria would be"}, {"start": "00:49:09", "end": "00:49:13", "text": "exterminated before making contact with"}, {"start": "00:49:11", "end": "00:49:16", "text": "caus surroundings. While the other"}, {"start": "00:49:13", "end": "00:49:19", "text": "travelers, the nose, are visiting planet"}, {"start": "00:49:16", "end": "00:49:21", "text": "Earth or cryo, not sure what that is."}, {"start": "00:49:19", "end": "00:49:24", "text": "They try to avoid contact with harmful"}, {"start": "00:49:21", "end": "00:49:26", "text": "bacteria and germs as much as possible."}, {"start": "00:49:24", "end": "00:49:29", "text": "I suppose that's why they had to sort of"}, {"start": "00:49:26", "end": "00:49:31", "text": "flee or expand their colony to the other"}, {"start": "00:49:29", "end": "00:49:34", "text": "planets because if you don't die, you're"}, {"start": "00:49:31", "end": "00:49:36", "text": "just procreating and making more uh just"}, {"start": "00:49:34", "end": "00:49:38", "text": "increasing your population and have to,"}, {"start": "00:49:36", "end": "00:49:40", "text": "you know, reach out to other planets. In"}, {"start": "00:49:38", "end": "00:49:44", "text": "this sense, the creatures that they"}, {"start": "00:49:40", "end": "00:49:45", "text": "create, the omores, are very useful. If"}, {"start": "00:49:44", "end": "00:49:47", "text": "for any reason they come in contact with"}, {"start": "00:49:45", "end": "00:49:49", "text": "harmful components to their human"}, {"start": "00:49:47", "end": "00:49:50", "text": "bodies, they are genetically capable of"}, {"start": "00:49:49", "end": "00:49:53", "text": "fighting these without the need of"}, {"start": "00:49:50", "end": "00:49:54", "text": "vaccines or medicine."}, {"start": "00:49:53", "end": "00:49:56", "text": "However, this doesn't mean they don't"}, {"start": "00:49:54", "end": "00:49:59", "text": "suffer the discomfort that comes with"}, {"start": "00:49:56", "end": "00:50:00", "text": "said bacteria and germs. According to"}, {"start": "00:49:59", "end": "00:50:02", "text": "him, their bodies are capable of"}, {"start": "00:50:00", "end": "00:50:04", "text": "creating all kinds of antibodies that"}, {"start": "00:50:02", "end": "00:50:06", "text": "attack and destroy instantly anything"}, {"start": "00:50:04", "end": "00:50:09", "text": "that threatens their physiological"}, {"start": "00:50:06", "end": "00:50:11", "text": "systems. their bodies possess a gland"}, {"start": "00:50:09", "end": "00:50:13", "text": "which we also have that secretes a"}, {"start": "00:50:11", "end": "00:50:15", "text": "series of substances that makes them"}, {"start": "00:50:13", "end": "00:50:18", "text": "immune to sickness after being affected"}, {"start": "00:50:15", "end": "00:50:19", "text": "one initial time. He also told us that"}, {"start": "00:50:18", "end": "00:50:21", "text": "our own bodies didn't function correctly"}, {"start": "00:50:19", "end": "00:50:23", "text": "because of the lack of balance and"}, {"start": "00:50:21", "end": "00:50:26", "text": "equilibrium that for generations we have"}, {"start": "00:50:23", "end": "00:50:28", "text": "prolonged generation after generation we"}, {"start": "00:50:26", "end": "00:50:30", "text": "have polluted our bodies with so many"}, {"start": "00:50:28", "end": "00:50:32", "text": "chemical substances that our bodies"}, {"start": "00:50:30", "end": "00:50:34", "text": "don't operate properly."}, {"start": "00:50:32", "end": "00:50:35", "text": "Every time we take in more of these"}, {"start": "00:50:34", "end": "00:50:37", "text": "substances, either through food,"}, {"start": "00:50:35", "end": "00:50:39", "text": "medicine, or illegal drugs, we keep"}, {"start": "00:50:37", "end": "00:50:41", "text": "getting weaker, regardless of any"}, {"start": "00:50:39", "end": "00:50:43", "text": "alleged advanced in our medical"}, {"start": "00:50:41", "end": "00:50:46", "text": "sciences. Well, that's really"}, {"start": "00:50:43", "end": "00:50:50", "text": "interesting."}, {"start": "00:50:46", "end": "00:50:50", "text": "That is interesting."}, {"start": "00:50:50", "end": "00:50:57", "text": "Especially the part about the omorees or"}, {"start": "00:50:53", "end": "00:51:02", "text": "these little grays being a front line in"}, {"start": "00:50:57", "end": "00:51:05", "text": "the defense of some type of virus or"}, {"start": "00:51:02", "end": "00:51:07", "text": "dangerous bacteria."}, {"start": "00:51:05", "end": "00:51:11", "text": "This would make sense why you would have"}, {"start": "00:51:07", "end": "00:51:13", "text": "grays. Take the case of Travis Walton"}, {"start": "00:51:11", "end": "00:51:16", "text": "for instance. He had these little"}, {"start": "00:51:13", "end": "00:51:18", "text": "creatures in these little spaceacuits do"}, {"start": "00:51:16", "end": "00:51:20", "text": "things and then when he got out of hand,"}, {"start": "00:51:18", "end": "00:51:23", "text": "they kind of just left."}, {"start": "00:51:20", "end": "00:51:25", "text": "And then came in this human wearing a"}, {"start": "00:51:23", "end": "00:51:30", "text": "helmet"}, {"start": "00:51:25", "end": "00:51:32", "text": "possibly, you know, because of the um"}, {"start": "00:51:30", "end": "00:51:35", "text": "the bacteria or or some type, you know,"}, {"start": "00:51:32", "end": "00:51:37", "text": "just quarantining."}, {"start": "00:51:35", "end": "00:51:41", "text": "also might be a reason why they felt the"}, {"start": "00:51:37", "end": "00:51:43", "text": "need to fix Travis when he got hurt"}, {"start": "00:51:41", "end": "00:51:44", "text": "because they were benevolent. They also"}, {"start": "00:51:43", "end": "00:51:46", "text": "didn't seem older than what he's"}, {"start": "00:51:44", "end": "00:51:48", "text": "describing and they seemed perfectly in"}, {"start": "00:51:46", "end": "00:51:53", "text": "shape. So, this is all kind of adding up"}, {"start": "00:51:48", "end": "00:51:53", "text": "in a strange, silly, and whimsical way."}, {"start": "00:51:53", "end": "00:51:57", "text": "The people that were projected all"}, {"start": "00:51:55", "end": "00:51:59", "text": "around us continued smiling and talking"}, {"start": "00:51:57", "end": "00:52:00", "text": "amongst themselves, terrifying. The"}, {"start": "00:51:59", "end": "00:52:02", "text": "children were happy and running"}, {"start": "00:52:00", "end": "00:52:04", "text": "everywhere."}, {"start": "00:52:02", "end": "00:52:06", "text": "And the animals that were brought to us,"}, {"start": "00:52:04", "end": "00:52:08", "text": "both known and unknown, were now being"}, {"start": "00:52:06", "end": "00:52:10", "text": "taken away. We started to climb again."}, {"start": "00:52:08", "end": "00:52:12", "text": "The people didn't look at us as we"}, {"start": "00:52:10", "end": "00:52:15", "text": "departed. They only scattered. Slowly,"}, {"start": "00:52:12", "end": "00:52:18", "text": "we glided through cause sky. In the"}, {"start": "00:52:15", "end": "00:52:20", "text": "distance, I saw again several circular"}, {"start": "00:52:18", "end": "00:52:23", "text": "formations similar to the one we had"}, {"start": "00:52:20", "end": "00:52:26", "text": "just visited. Again, I saw many flowers"}, {"start": "00:52:23", "end": "00:52:29", "text": "as well as rivers and beautiful lakes."}, {"start": "00:52:26", "end": "00:52:30", "text": "You could also see the people enjoying"}, {"start": "00:52:29", "end": "00:52:32", "text": "these."}, {"start": "00:52:30", "end": "00:52:34", "text": "None of them were aware of our presence."}, {"start": "00:52:32", "end": "00:52:36", "text": "The landscape could really be described"}, {"start": "00:52:34", "end": "00:52:38", "text": "as paradise. The vegetation was"}, {"start": "00:52:36", "end": "00:52:41", "text": "abundant, and the colors of the flowers"}, {"start": "00:52:38", "end": "00:52:43", "text": "really stood out. Though my breathing"}, {"start": "00:52:41", "end": "00:52:45", "text": "had returned to normal, the fear of"}, {"start": "00:52:43", "end": "00:52:49", "text": "falling from that high up was still with"}, {"start": "00:52:45", "end": "00:52:51", "text": "me. The human and his companions"}, {"start": "00:52:49", "end": "00:52:53", "text": "still stood in the same place."}, {"start": "00:52:51", "end": "00:52:57", "text": "Could still feel the ground beneath my"}, {"start": "00:52:53", "end": "00:52:59", "text": "feet, but it looked like we were flying."}, {"start": "00:52:57", "end": "00:53:02", "text": "We all seemed to be moving at around 20"}, {"start": "00:52:59", "end": "00:53:05", "text": "mph. The landscape beneath our feet drew"}, {"start": "00:53:02", "end": "00:53:07", "text": "back like a big curtain."}, {"start": "00:53:05", "end": "00:53:09", "text": "In the air, you could see different"}, {"start": "00:53:07", "end": "00:53:11", "text": "birds as well as what we'd consider"}, {"start": "00:53:09", "end": "00:53:13", "text": "prehistoric flying animals. Though"}, {"start": "00:53:11", "end": "00:53:16", "text": "everything I was seeing was beautiful,"}, {"start": "00:53:13", "end": "00:53:18", "text": "my heart still harbored terror and"}, {"start": "00:53:16", "end": "00:53:20", "text": "panic. It beat in such a way that I was"}, {"start": "00:53:18", "end": "00:53:23", "text": "sure if I looked, I'd see the beat"}, {"start": "00:53:20", "end": "00:53:26", "text": "through my white, sweaty shirt."}, {"start": "00:53:23", "end": "00:53:28", "text": "Is all this real?"}, {"start": "00:53:26", "end": "00:53:30", "text": "At the time, I thought that maybe I'd"}, {"start": "00:53:28", "end": "00:53:34", "text": "suffered an accident on the road of"}, {"start": "00:53:30", "end": "00:53:36", "text": "Labashura. Labahura on my way from work"}, {"start": "00:53:34", "end": "00:53:38", "text": "and that maybe this was the other side."}, {"start": "00:53:36", "end": "00:53:41", "text": "My mind slipped in and out from time to"}, {"start": "00:53:38", "end": "00:53:44", "text": "time. So, I wasn't sure what was real"}, {"start": "00:53:41", "end": "00:53:45", "text": "and what was not. Though the human"}, {"start": "00:53:44", "end": "00:53:49", "text": "wearing the black clothes had told us"}, {"start": "00:53:45", "end": "00:53:50", "text": "about his home, I was terribly confused."}, {"start": "00:53:49", "end": "00:53:52", "text": "In this state of confusion, with my"}, {"start": "00:53:50", "end": "00:53:54", "text": "heart beating out of my chest and my"}, {"start": "00:53:52", "end": "00:53:56", "text": "eyes open like a dead fish, I kept"}, {"start": "00:53:54", "end": "00:53:59", "text": "gliding through Ka's sky with the"}, {"start": "00:53:56", "end": "00:53:59", "text": "others."}, {"start": "00:54:00", "end": "00:54:03", "text": "We stopped over a place that looked like"}, {"start": "00:54:01", "end": "00:54:06", "text": "a farm."}, {"start": "00:54:03", "end": "00:54:07", "text": "The fields were tended by hundreds of"}, {"start": "00:54:06", "end": "00:54:09", "text": "omoras."}, {"start": "00:54:07", "end": "00:54:11", "text": "They were harvesting something I"}, {"start": "00:54:09", "end": "00:54:14", "text": "couldn't make out, and our guide didn't"}, {"start": "00:54:11", "end": "00:54:16", "text": "tell us. The Oores looked like organized"}, {"start": "00:54:14", "end": "00:54:18", "text": "ants."}, {"start": "00:54:16", "end": "00:54:20", "text": "each one carrying out their role under"}, {"start": "00:54:18", "end": "00:54:22", "text": "the ca sun which had the same"}, {"start": "00:54:20", "end": "00:54:25", "text": "characteristics as our own star on earth"}, {"start": "00:54:22", "end": "00:54:27", "text": "so far as I could tell."}, {"start": "00:54:25", "end": "00:54:29", "text": "We couldn't feel its heat though since"}, {"start": "00:54:27", "end": "00:54:31", "text": "it was only a projection."}, {"start": "00:54:29", "end": "00:54:34", "text": "Stood over that farm for only a short"}, {"start": "00:54:31", "end": "00:54:36", "text": "while and I managed to see some omores"}, {"start": "00:54:34", "end": "00:54:39", "text": "carrying some sort of boxes and I"}, {"start": "00:54:36", "end": "00:54:42", "text": "thought maybe in them were carrying"}, {"start": "00:54:39", "end": "00:54:44", "text": "whatever it was they were harvesting."}, {"start": "00:54:42", "end": "00:54:46", "text": "Took them inside a big building that"}, {"start": "00:54:44", "end": "00:54:48", "text": "looked like it was made of bricks. The"}, {"start": "00:54:46", "end": "00:54:49", "text": "color of the building was terracotta. I"}, {"start": "00:54:48", "end": "00:54:52", "text": "didn't see any vehicles around. They all"}, {"start": "00:54:49", "end": "00:54:54", "text": "walked on foot from what I could tell"}, {"start": "00:54:52", "end": "00:54:56", "text": "from the height of the distance that I"}, {"start": "00:54:54", "end": "00:54:59", "text": "was. They could have been harvesting"}, {"start": "00:54:56", "end": "00:55:01", "text": "potatoes or yams or something like that."}, {"start": "00:54:59", "end": "00:55:03", "text": "I really couldn't be sure. We left the"}, {"start": "00:55:01", "end": "00:55:05", "text": "farm and continued our journey. On the"}, {"start": "00:55:03", "end": "00:55:08", "text": "horizon, we started to see what looked"}, {"start": "00:55:05", "end": "00:55:10", "text": "like a great city. When we got there, I"}, {"start": "00:55:08", "end": "00:55:12", "text": "saw there were no people around. There"}, {"start": "00:55:10", "end": "00:55:15", "text": "were lots of majestic buildings made out"}, {"start": "00:55:12", "end": "00:55:18", "text": "of a solid looking material resembling"}, {"start": "00:55:15", "end": "00:55:20", "text": "concrete or cement. They didn't have any"}, {"start": "00:55:18", "end": "00:55:22", "text": "windows, though. I couldn't see any"}, {"start": "00:55:20", "end": "00:55:25", "text": "entrances. I figured there had to be"}, {"start": "00:55:22", "end": "00:55:26", "text": "somewhere. Some of the buildings were"}, {"start": "00:55:25", "end": "00:55:28", "text": "rectangular shaped and others squared."}, {"start": "00:55:26", "end": "00:55:30", "text": "In the middle of all these gray"}, {"start": "00:55:28", "end": "00:55:32", "text": "buildings, there was a great wonder, an"}, {"start": "00:55:30", "end": "00:55:34", "text": "enormous pyramid. Looked as if it was"}, {"start": "00:55:32", "end": "00:55:37", "text": "constructed out of the same material as"}, {"start": "00:55:34", "end": "00:55:38", "text": "the houses we' just seen. It seemed as"}, {"start": "00:55:37", "end": "00:55:40", "text": "if it were made out of polished,"}, {"start": "00:55:38", "end": "00:55:42", "text": "precious stones or shiny different"}, {"start": "00:55:40", "end": "00:55:44", "text": "colored ice."}, {"start": "00:55:42", "end": "00:55:47", "text": "It turned into a purple, then a fiery"}, {"start": "00:55:44", "end": "00:55:48", "text": "red at the very top. The seven wonders"}, {"start": "00:55:47", "end": "00:55:50", "text": "of the world couldn't compare to this"}, {"start": "00:55:48", "end": "00:55:53", "text": "monument."}, {"start": "00:55:50", "end": "00:55:56", "text": "I watched in disbelief. My mind could"}, {"start": "00:55:53", "end": "00:55:59", "text": "barely take it. This great deserted city"}, {"start": "00:55:56", "end": "00:56:01", "text": "was indeed impressive. Flowers did not"}, {"start": "00:55:59", "end": "00:56:03", "text": "grow here, and what appeared to be roads"}, {"start": "00:56:01", "end": "00:56:06", "text": "between the buildings were devoid of any"}, {"start": "00:56:03", "end": "00:56:09", "text": "form of life. Suspended in the midair in"}, {"start": "00:56:06", "end": "00:56:12", "text": "front of the enormous pyramid, he spoke"}, {"start": "00:56:09", "end": "00:56:14", "text": "again."}, {"start": "00:56:12", "end": "00:56:16", "text": "This is the government center from the"}, {"start": "00:56:14", "end": "00:56:18", "text": "mother planet of Ka and for its"}, {"start": "00:56:16", "end": "00:56:21", "text": "descendants who inhabit the planets of"}, {"start": "00:56:18", "end": "00:56:23", "text": "this solar system in particular."}, {"start": "00:56:21", "end": "00:56:25", "text": "According to our guide, this was where"}, {"start": "00:56:23", "end": "00:56:28", "text": "his father works as a helper in the"}, {"start": "00:56:25", "end": "00:56:30", "text": "affairs of the planets. Our guide's"}, {"start": "00:56:28", "end": "00:56:31", "text": "father is in charge of those operations"}, {"start": "00:56:30", "end": "00:56:34", "text": "that have to do with the observation of"}, {"start": "00:56:31", "end": "00:56:36", "text": "our planet earth or cryo as they call"}, {"start": "00:56:34", "end": "00:56:38", "text": "it. He also told us the other square"}, {"start": "00:56:36", "end": "00:56:40", "text": "buildings were laboratories and that"}, {"start": "00:56:38", "end": "00:56:42", "text": "oorez were mass- prodduced in some of"}, {"start": "00:56:40", "end": "00:56:45", "text": "them. We didn't descend into this"}, {"start": "00:56:42", "end": "00:56:47", "text": "government center. We continued our"}, {"start": "00:56:45", "end": "00:56:49", "text": "journey still seated until we reached a"}, {"start": "00:56:47", "end": "00:56:50", "text": "place where there was no more vegetation"}, {"start": "00:56:49", "end": "00:56:52", "text": "and what appeared to be a desert came"}, {"start": "00:56:50", "end": "00:56:54", "text": "up. In the distance, you could see"}, {"start": "00:56:52", "end": "00:56:57", "text": "something resembling an urban zone made"}, {"start": "00:56:54", "end": "00:57:00", "text": "up of houses with round metallic"}, {"start": "00:56:57", "end": "00:57:02", "text": "rooftops that reflected the sun. As we"}, {"start": "00:57:00", "end": "00:57:04", "text": "got closer, I realized that what I was"}, {"start": "00:57:02", "end": "00:57:06", "text": "only seeing was just an extension of the"}, {"start": "00:57:04", "end": "00:57:09", "text": "desert filled with hundreds of circular"}, {"start": "00:57:06", "end": "00:57:11", "text": "vehicles, what are commonly known as"}, {"start": "00:57:09", "end": "00:57:12", "text": "flying saucers."}, {"start": "00:57:11", "end": "00:57:15", "text": "All except three of these were the same"}, {"start": "00:57:12", "end": "00:57:16", "text": "size. Amongst all the crafts, I saw a"}, {"start": "00:57:15", "end": "00:57:20", "text": "building of staggering proportions that"}, {"start": "00:57:16", "end": "00:57:22", "text": "looked like a grainery."}, {"start": "00:57:20", "end": "00:57:24", "text": "While we were apparently suspended over"}, {"start": "00:57:22", "end": "00:57:27", "text": "this warehouse or airport, one of the"}, {"start": "00:57:24", "end": "00:57:30", "text": "ships left the ground and got close to"}, {"start": "00:57:27", "end": "00:57:34", "text": "us. It was immense, even bigger than a"}, {"start": "00:57:30", "end": "00:57:36", "text": "747 plane. We couldn't hear any sounds."}, {"start": "00:57:34", "end": "00:57:38", "text": "It was very impressive. It was a"}, {"start": "00:57:36", "end": "00:57:41", "text": "circular shape, like two inverted plates"}, {"start": "00:57:38", "end": "00:57:44", "text": "on top of one another. 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And when"}, {"start": "00:57:55", "end": "00:57:59", "text": "it got to the top of us, I noticed that"}, {"start": "00:57:57", "end": "00:58:01", "text": "beams came out of the dome in the center"}, {"start": "00:57:59", "end": "00:58:05", "text": "of up to the craft's edge, which gave"}, {"start": "00:58:01", "end": "00:58:07", "text": "the impression of the sun and its rays."}, {"start": "00:58:05", "end": "00:58:10", "text": "All of a sudden, the vehicle climbed"}, {"start": "00:58:07", "end": "00:58:13", "text": "very high and it lit up, which really"}, {"start": "00:58:10", "end": "00:58:15", "text": "made it look like a real sun. It then"}, {"start": "00:58:13", "end": "00:58:20", "text": "descended and positioned itself below."}, {"start": "00:58:15", "end": "00:58:21", "text": "Our chairs again started to turn. I"}, {"start": "00:58:20", "end": "00:58:23", "text": "really couldn't tell the bottom part of"}, {"start": "00:58:21", "end": "00:58:26", "text": "the object from its upper part since"}, {"start": "00:58:23", "end": "00:58:27", "text": "they looked identical. The ship again"}, {"start": "00:58:26", "end": "00:58:29", "text": "started to move and our chair stopped"}, {"start": "00:58:27", "end": "00:58:31", "text": "right in front of the human and his two"}, {"start": "00:58:29", "end": "00:58:33", "text": "oamores."}, {"start": "00:58:31", "end": "00:58:35", "text": "A door of sorts opened from the edge of"}, {"start": "00:58:33", "end": "00:58:37", "text": "the upper part of the vehicle and from"}, {"start": "00:58:35", "end": "00:58:40", "text": "there a smaller one emerged. It was like"}, {"start": "00:58:37", "end": "00:58:43", "text": "a navy blue car with no wheels."}, {"start": "00:58:40", "end": "00:58:45", "text": "This car ship had a glass top or"}, {"start": "00:58:43", "end": "00:58:47", "text": "something that looked like glass. It had"}, {"start": "00:58:45", "end": "00:58:49", "text": "many lights around it. And when it"}, {"start": "00:58:47", "end": "00:58:51", "text": "passed over our heads, I noticed it had"}, {"start": "00:58:49", "end": "00:58:53", "text": "lights in the bottom as well. Though the"}, {"start": "00:58:51", "end": "00:58:54", "text": "lights never actually turned on, they"}, {"start": "00:58:53", "end": "00:58:57", "text": "gave the impression they were lights."}, {"start": "00:58:54", "end": "00:59:01", "text": "The auto UFO got closer and I could see"}, {"start": "00:58:57", "end": "00:59:04", "text": "the driver was a little boy and an"}, {"start": "00:59:01", "end": "00:59:06", "text": "oamore was with him. It was as if the"}, {"start": "00:59:04", "end": "00:59:08", "text": "driver could see us suspended in midair"}, {"start": "00:59:06", "end": "00:59:10", "text": "because he raised his arms as if to"}, {"start": "00:59:08", "end": "00:59:12", "text": "greet us. The blonde, blue-eyed boy"}, {"start": "00:59:10", "end": "00:59:16", "text": "started doing different maneuvers in the"}, {"start": "00:59:12", "end": "00:59:18", "text": "air. He was demonstrating his abilities."}, {"start": "00:59:16", "end": "00:59:21", "text": "The smaller vehicle then went back"}, {"start": "00:59:18", "end": "00:59:23", "text": "inside the large craft, which descended"}, {"start": "00:59:21", "end": "00:59:26", "text": "to its original location. I saw"}, {"start": "00:59:23", "end": "00:59:27", "text": "everything so clearly, the sky, the"}, {"start": "00:59:26", "end": "00:59:30", "text": "different objects. How could they all be"}, {"start": "00:59:27", "end": "00:59:32", "text": "so real?"}, {"start": "00:59:30", "end": "00:59:35", "text": "I still didn't have an answer. What I"}, {"start": "00:59:32", "end": "00:59:37", "text": "was seeing all around me was like a"}, {"start": "00:59:35", "end": "00:59:39", "text": "dream. One of the three larger vehicles"}, {"start": "00:59:37", "end": "00:59:42", "text": "left the ground. This one looked like it"}, {"start": "00:59:39", "end": "00:59:43", "text": "was the size of a football field,"}, {"start": "00:59:42", "end": "00:59:46", "text": "went over our heads up at one point"}, {"start": "00:59:43", "end": "00:59:47", "text": "where it looked a little smaller. This"}, {"start": "00:59:46", "end": "00:59:50", "text": "time, instead of another vehicle coming"}, {"start": "00:59:47", "end": "00:59:52", "text": "out of its interior, it divided itself"}, {"start": "00:59:50", "end": "00:59:57", "text": "into four parts, kind of like a cake or"}, {"start": "00:59:52", "end": "01:00:00", "text": "a pizza. Each portion had beneath it in"}, {"start": "00:59:57", "end": "01:00:01", "text": "its center a sort of dome, which looked"}, {"start": "01:00:00", "end": "01:00:03", "text": "like it was made out of the same"}, {"start": "01:00:01", "end": "01:00:05", "text": "material as the other ones we'd seen."}, {"start": "01:00:03", "end": "01:00:08", "text": "They positioned themselves in a single"}, {"start": "01:00:05", "end": "01:00:11", "text": "line and one by one these triangles"}, {"start": "01:00:08", "end": "01:00:14", "text": "slowly flew over us. According to our"}, {"start": "01:00:11", "end": "01:00:16", "text": "human guide, these vehicles were solar"}, {"start": "01:00:14", "end": "01:00:18", "text": "powered. Interesting to think that these"}, {"start": "01:00:16", "end": "01:00:21", "text": "wedges"}, {"start": "01:00:18", "end": "01:00:24", "text": "can make, you know, one flying saucer."}, {"start": "01:00:21", "end": "01:00:25", "text": "Um especially, you know, we hear a lot"}, {"start": "01:00:24", "end": "01:00:27", "text": "about triangles, but they're usually"}, {"start": "01:00:25", "end": "01:00:28", "text": "like equilateral. They're not like"}, {"start": "01:00:27", "end": "01:00:29", "text": "rounded at the edge. But would be"}, {"start": "01:00:28", "end": "01:00:31", "text": "interesting to think that these"}, {"start": "01:00:29", "end": "01:00:34", "text": "triangular things are just part of one"}, {"start": "01:00:31", "end": "01:00:37", "text": "saucer."}, {"start": "01:00:34", "end": "01:00:41", "text": "And if you look at the uh photos,"}, {"start": "01:00:37", "end": "01:00:46", "text": "I wonder which one that is."}, {"start": "01:00:41", "end": "01:00:46", "text": "That last one there. It's just so wild."}, {"start": "01:00:48", "end": "01:00:52", "text": "The sweat poured down my forehead and"}, {"start": "01:00:50", "end": "01:00:55", "text": "into my eyes every now and then when I"}, {"start": "01:00:52", "end": "01:00:56", "text": "felt my circulation wasn't normal. It"}, {"start": "01:00:55", "end": "01:00:59", "text": "was as if thousands of needles were"}, {"start": "01:00:56", "end": "01:01:01", "text": "piercing through my skin."}, {"start": "01:00:59", "end": "01:01:03", "text": "Sitting like that for such a long time"}, {"start": "01:01:01", "end": "01:01:05", "text": "was terrible. We then witnessed the four"}, {"start": "01:01:03", "end": "01:01:07", "text": "parts of this huge ship come together as"}, {"start": "01:01:05", "end": "01:01:09", "text": "one with great precision. It then"}, {"start": "01:01:07", "end": "01:01:12", "text": "descended and placed itself between the"}, {"start": "01:01:09", "end": "01:01:14", "text": "others. Smaller vehicles were blue gray"}, {"start": "01:01:12", "end": "01:01:16", "text": "in color, like blue smoke, while the"}, {"start": "01:01:14", "end": "01:01:18", "text": "bigger ones were dark in color like ash,"}, {"start": "01:01:16", "end": "01:01:21", "text": "almost black. From our position,"}, {"start": "01:01:18", "end": "01:01:23", "text": "suspended in the caw sky, I couldn't see"}, {"start": "01:01:21", "end": "01:01:25", "text": "if the crafts landed on their bellies or"}, {"start": "01:01:23", "end": "01:01:28", "text": "if they used wheels or something else to"}, {"start": "01:01:25", "end": "01:01:30", "text": "do so."}, {"start": "01:01:28", "end": "01:01:32", "text": "Our seat started to turn again until we"}, {"start": "01:01:30", "end": "01:01:35", "text": "were right in front of a gigantic"}, {"start": "01:01:32", "end": "01:01:37", "text": "silo-like structure. Looked like it was"}, {"start": "01:01:35", "end": "01:01:40", "text": "made out of aluminum. The human"}, {"start": "01:01:37", "end": "01:01:42", "text": "extraterrestrial told us that all their"}, {"start": "01:01:40", "end": "01:01:44", "text": "vehicles were built and repaired there."}, {"start": "01:01:42", "end": "01:01:46", "text": "We didn't see any personnel there and we"}, {"start": "01:01:44", "end": "01:01:48", "text": "couldn't really see an entrance to that"}, {"start": "01:01:46", "end": "01:01:50", "text": "building. It was probably located on the"}, {"start": "01:01:48", "end": "01:01:52", "text": "side that we couldn't see. We then"}, {"start": "01:01:50", "end": "01:01:55", "text": "continued our flight and left that place"}, {"start": "01:01:52", "end": "01:01:57", "text": "in the desert behind. Though everything"}, {"start": "01:01:55", "end": "01:02:00", "text": "we were seeing was of great beauty, I"}, {"start": "01:01:57", "end": "01:02:01", "text": "again started to feel panic. Nothing"}, {"start": "01:02:00", "end": "01:02:04", "text": "could compare to the beauty of the"}, {"start": "01:02:01", "end": "01:02:06", "text": "trees, mountains, prairies, rivers, and"}, {"start": "01:02:04", "end": "01:02:09", "text": "most of all the flowers. All of the"}, {"start": "01:02:06", "end": "01:02:11", "text": "colors stood out and were alive. The"}, {"start": "01:02:09", "end": "01:02:14", "text": "reds were redder, the green of the trees"}, {"start": "01:02:11", "end": "01:02:17", "text": "and grass even greener, and the blue sky"}, {"start": "01:02:14", "end": "01:02:19", "text": "was indescribable."}, {"start": "01:02:17", "end": "01:02:20", "text": "I felt at that point a lot of mixed"}, {"start": "01:02:19", "end": "01:02:22", "text": "emotions."}, {"start": "01:02:20", "end": "01:02:26", "text": "On the one hand, I was mesmerized and on"}, {"start": "01:02:22", "end": "01:02:28", "text": "the other hand, terrorized."}, {"start": "01:02:26", "end": "01:02:30", "text": "Very particular combination of emotions."}, {"start": "01:02:28", "end": "01:02:33", "text": "I'd say I wanted to stay in that place"}, {"start": "01:02:30", "end": "01:02:37", "text": "of extraordinary beauty. Yet, I also"}, {"start": "01:02:33", "end": "01:02:37", "text": "wanted to go back home in a hurry."}, {"start": "01:02:38", "end": "01:02:43", "text": "Through this projection, 15 human beings"}, {"start": "01:02:41", "end": "01:02:45", "text": "from Earth got to know the beautiful"}, {"start": "01:02:43", "end": "01:02:48", "text": "place where our kidnapper and two of his"}, {"start": "01:02:45", "end": "01:02:50", "text": "creatures with bulging eyes, large heads"}, {"start": "01:02:48", "end": "01:02:52", "text": "came from."}, {"start": "01:02:50", "end": "01:02:54", "text": "But there was more to come. We got a"}, {"start": "01:02:52", "end": "01:02:56", "text": "valley surrounded by mountains. There"}, {"start": "01:02:54", "end": "01:02:58", "text": "was an abundance of waterfalls and all"}, {"start": "01:02:56", "end": "01:03:00", "text": "kinds of vegetation and flowers of"}, {"start": "01:02:58", "end": "01:03:02", "text": "electrifying colors. We stopped and our"}, {"start": "01:03:00", "end": "01:03:04", "text": "seats commenced turning as they had done"}, {"start": "01:03:02", "end": "01:03:09", "text": "before. We slowly observed the gorgeous"}, {"start": "01:03:04", "end": "01:03:12", "text": "landscape. As we turned, he spoke again."}, {"start": "01:03:09", "end": "01:03:15", "text": "Observe this place well. This is how"}, {"start": "01:03:12", "end": "01:03:17", "text": "your earth should look like. In the"}, {"start": "01:03:15", "end": "01:03:21", "text": "beginning, where you come from was"}, {"start": "01:03:17", "end": "01:03:23", "text": "indeed designed this way. Our seats"}, {"start": "01:03:21", "end": "01:03:25", "text": "continued to turn slowly, and his voice"}, {"start": "01:03:23", "end": "01:03:27", "text": "became, for a lack of other noises and"}, {"start": "01:03:25", "end": "01:03:29", "text": "sounds, the center of my attention, he"}, {"start": "01:03:27", "end": "01:03:31", "text": "continued."}, {"start": "01:03:29", "end": "01:03:33", "text": "Among you, there are some of you who"}, {"start": "01:03:31", "end": "01:03:37", "text": "will contribute to the reestablishment"}, {"start": "01:03:33", "end": "01:03:39", "text": "of your world's original beauty."}, {"start": "01:03:37", "end": "01:03:41", "text": "By now, I couldn't tell fact from"}, {"start": "01:03:39", "end": "01:03:44", "text": "fiction. The seat stopped turning, and"}, {"start": "01:03:41", "end": "01:03:46", "text": "we ended up facing him."}, {"start": "01:03:44", "end": "01:03:49", "text": "He started to talk to those who were in"}, {"start": "01:03:46", "end": "01:03:50", "text": "the first line. To these first five he"}, {"start": "01:03:49", "end": "01:03:53", "text": "called individually by their names and"}, {"start": "01:03:50", "end": "01:03:56", "text": "looked at deeply into their eyes, gave"}, {"start": "01:03:53", "end": "01:03:58", "text": "them some sort of task. Some were"}, {"start": "01:03:56", "end": "01:04:01", "text": "assigned to care for animals, others to"}, {"start": "01:03:58", "end": "01:04:04", "text": "the sea, and its many species. Others"}, {"start": "01:04:01", "end": "01:04:06", "text": "were assigned to agriculture, the birds,"}, {"start": "01:04:04", "end": "01:04:09", "text": "and other things I don't recall. When it"}, {"start": "01:04:06", "end": "01:04:11", "text": "was my turn, I remembered I I couldn't"}, {"start": "01:04:09", "end": "01:04:14", "text": "look at him in the eye. I was terrified"}, {"start": "01:04:11", "end": "01:04:16", "text": "of his deep, penetrating look. Even"}, {"start": "01:04:14", "end": "01:04:18", "text": "though I didn't look at him, he still"}, {"start": "01:04:16", "end": "01:04:21", "text": "addressed me."}, {"start": "01:04:18", "end": "01:04:25", "text": "Amorei, you will help the nature renewal"}, {"start": "01:04:21", "end": "01:04:25", "text": "of your world."}, {"start": "01:04:25", "end": "01:04:31", "text": "You'll help the trees, the grass, and"}, {"start": "01:04:28", "end": "01:04:34", "text": "most importantly, the flowers live on"}, {"start": "01:04:31", "end": "01:04:36", "text": "after what's to come."}, {"start": "01:04:34", "end": "01:04:38", "text": "I simply didn't understand. and I I knew"}, {"start": "01:04:36", "end": "01:04:39", "text": "nothing of flowers and trees and other"}, {"start": "01:04:38", "end": "01:04:42", "text": "other than that they needed earth and"}, {"start": "01:04:39", "end": "01:04:43", "text": "water and sunlight. He then mentioned"}, {"start": "01:04:42", "end": "01:04:46", "text": "the name of the boy sitting on my right"}, {"start": "01:04:43", "end": "01:04:50", "text": "and proceeded to instruct him as he did"}, {"start": "01:04:46", "end": "01:04:52", "text": "with the rest of us."}, {"start": "01:04:50", "end": "01:04:56", "text": "Have you understood what I have just"}, {"start": "01:04:52", "end": "01:04:57", "text": "told you? He asked. Nobody said a word."}, {"start": "01:04:56", "end": "01:04:59", "text": "If some of us shook our heads in"}, {"start": "01:04:57", "end": "01:05:02", "text": "response to what the strange subject"}, {"start": "01:04:59", "end": "01:05:04", "text": "dressed in black asked us. He said that"}, {"start": "01:05:02", "end": "01:05:07", "text": "in time we would understand"}, {"start": "01:05:04", "end": "01:05:10", "text": "that now we were just like children. He"}, {"start": "01:05:07", "end": "01:05:13", "text": "then said children are born without"}, {"start": "01:05:10", "end": "01:05:15", "text": "knowledge. However, step by step they"}, {"start": "01:05:13", "end": "01:05:17", "text": "acquire knowledge and wisdom. This is"}, {"start": "01:05:15", "end": "01:05:20", "text": "how it will happen for you as well. I"}, {"start": "01:05:17", "end": "01:05:23", "text": "still didn't dare look at him. I feared"}, {"start": "01:05:20", "end": "01:05:25", "text": "meeting his intimidating eyes. I looked"}, {"start": "01:05:23", "end": "01:05:27", "text": "everywhere except in his direction. When"}, {"start": "01:05:25", "end": "01:05:29", "text": "he addressed the whole group, I could"}, {"start": "01:05:27", "end": "01:05:32", "text": "look at him. But when he fixed his eyes"}, {"start": "01:05:29", "end": "01:05:34", "text": "on me, I could not face him."}, {"start": "01:05:32", "end": "01:05:36", "text": "Slowly, the landscape started to lose"}, {"start": "01:05:34", "end": "01:05:39", "text": "all its colors and started to vibrate"}, {"start": "01:05:36", "end": "01:05:41", "text": "visually. Everything then faded to"}, {"start": "01:05:39", "end": "01:05:43", "text": "darkness. When we could see again, or"}, {"start": "01:05:41", "end": "01:05:46", "text": "when the lights we could not see turned"}, {"start": "01:05:43", "end": "01:05:47", "text": "on, we found ourselves in that same room"}, {"start": "01:05:46", "end": "01:05:49", "text": "with the human who had identified"}, {"start": "01:05:47", "end": "01:05:54", "text": "himself as Amaron."}, {"start": "01:05:49", "end": "01:05:55", "text": "Beside him stood his two monstrosities."}, {"start": "01:05:54", "end": "01:05:58", "text": "He really doesn't like the sight of"}, {"start": "01:05:55", "end": "01:06:01", "text": "these beings."}, {"start": "01:05:58", "end": "01:06:03", "text": "They've been nothing nothing but like"}, {"start": "01:06:01", "end": "01:06:05", "text": "nice and cuddly and he's just like these"}, {"start": "01:06:03", "end": "01:06:09", "text": "devilish little big-headed gross ass"}, {"start": "01:06:05", "end": "01:06:11", "text": "grotesque little beings. Ew."}, {"start": "01:06:09", "end": "01:06:13", "text": "In the first projection, there are many"}, {"start": "01:06:11", "end": "01:06:15", "text": "details I have omitted. I basically gave"}, {"start": "01:06:13", "end": "01:06:18", "text": "a general idea. The projections I'm"}, {"start": "01:06:15", "end": "01:06:21", "text": "about to narrate are short"}, {"start": "01:06:18", "end": "01:06:23", "text": "but shocking. They contain chilling,"}, {"start": "01:06:21", "end": "01:06:25", "text": "horrifying scenes."}, {"start": "01:06:23", "end": "01:06:28", "text": "These are the most important given to us"}, {"start": "01:06:25", "end": "01:06:30", "text": "by this being for our humanity. My"}, {"start": "01:06:28", "end": "01:06:33", "text": "sincere intention is not to alarm or"}, {"start": "01:06:30", "end": "01:06:37", "text": "traumatize anybody, but there's no other"}, {"start": "01:06:33", "end": "01:06:40", "text": "way of presenting them without doing so."}, {"start": "01:06:37", "end": "01:06:43", "text": "In all truth, these images we saw are"}, {"start": "01:06:40", "end": "01:06:45", "text": "alarming not just for my country, but"}, {"start": "01:06:43", "end": "01:06:47", "text": "for the entire world."}, {"start": "01:06:45", "end": "01:06:50", "text": "It's extremely hard for me to put into"}, {"start": "01:06:47", "end": "01:06:53", "text": "words the horror and suffering that"}, {"start": "01:06:50", "end": "01:06:56", "text": "those other 14 people and myself went"}, {"start": "01:06:53", "end": "01:06:58", "text": "through when we saw that horrendous"}, {"start": "01:06:56", "end": "01:07:00", "text": "panorama."}, {"start": "01:06:58", "end": "01:07:03", "text": "The dates of the events I'm about to"}, {"start": "01:07:00", "end": "01:07:05", "text": "describe were not given to us. Yet with"}, {"start": "01:07:03", "end": "01:07:09", "text": "every day that goes by, I'm more"}, {"start": "01:07:05", "end": "01:07:12", "text": "convinced that we're not that far off."}, {"start": "01:07:09", "end": "01:07:14", "text": "I now understand what others before me,"}, {"start": "01:07:12", "end": "01:07:17", "text": "who've had something to say and nobody"}, {"start": "01:07:14", "end": "01:07:20", "text": "listened, have gone through."}, {"start": "01:07:17", "end": "01:07:22", "text": "It's up to you, the reader, to take"}, {"start": "01:07:20", "end": "01:07:25", "text": "action"}, {"start": "01:07:22", "end": "01:07:27", "text": "or wait till it's too late."}, {"start": "01:07:25", "end": "01:07:32", "text": "Prepare yourselves and in a timely"}, {"start": "01:07:27", "end": "01:07:35", "text": "manner, enter the ark of life. Don't"}, {"start": "01:07:32", "end": "01:07:38", "text": "wait to feel the rainfall on your face."}, {"start": "01:07:35", "end": "01:07:42", "text": "Out of a sense of duty,"}, {"start": "01:07:38", "end": "01:07:42", "text": "I give you the next projection,"}, {"start": "01:07:45", "end": "01:07:48", "text": "folks."}, {"start": "01:07:46", "end": "01:07:52", "text": "Whoa."}, {"start": "01:07:48", "end": "01:07:54", "text": "My time of recording was 1111"}, {"start": "01:07:52", "end": "01:07:58", "text": "right there as I stopped. How crazy."}, {"start": "01:07:54", "end": "01:08:00", "text": "Whoa. Um,"}, {"start": "01:07:58", "end": "01:08:03", "text": "that is the first projection of which"}, {"start": "01:08:00", "end": "01:08:05", "text": "there are three. And we will definitely"}, {"start": "01:08:03", "end": "01:08:08", "text": "continue reading because I also want to"}, {"start": "01:08:05", "end": "01:08:11", "text": "know how these photos were snapped. I"}, {"start": "01:08:08", "end": "01:08:13", "text": "think he was also visited and raided for"}, {"start": "01:08:11", "end": "01:08:18", "text": "these photos and um they didn't end up"}, {"start": "01:08:13", "end": "01:08:20", "text": "finding them obviously. Um,"}, {"start": "01:08:18", "end": "01:08:22", "text": "there's a lot more to this story and one"}, {"start": "01:08:20", "end": "01:08:27", "text": "of the most fascinating"}, {"start": "01:08:22", "end": "01:08:32", "text": "cases that I've read in recent history"}, {"start": "01:08:27", "end": "01:08:36", "text": "due to not only the physical evidence,"}, {"start": "01:08:32", "end": "01:08:38", "text": "but what's being told to him, what's"}, {"start": "01:08:36", "end": "01:08:41", "text": "being shown to him, how he's describing"}, {"start": "01:08:38", "end": "01:08:41", "text": "it."}, {"start": "01:08:41", "end": "01:08:45", "text": "I don't know what to make of this, to be"}, {"start": "01:08:43", "end": "01:08:47", "text": "quite frank. I would love to hear what"}, {"start": "01:08:45", "end": "01:08:51", "text": "you guys have to say about the story of"}, {"start": "01:08:47", "end": "01:08:55", "text": "Amorei Rivera. So far, uh, my conviction"}, {"start": "01:08:51", "end": "01:08:58", "text": "level, I think, remains low due to just"}, {"start": "01:08:55", "end": "01:09:02", "text": "simply"}, {"start": "01:08:58", "end": "01:09:06", "text": "anything higher than 50% is"}, {"start": "01:09:02", "end": "01:09:08", "text": "ontologically shocking."}, {"start": "01:09:06", "end": "01:09:11", "text": "Um, that being said though,"}, {"start": "01:09:08", "end": "01:09:14", "text": "it is not zero, especially with the"}, {"start": "01:09:11", "end": "01:09:16", "text": "pictures. The pictures look really"}, {"start": "01:09:14", "end": "01:09:18", "text": "authentic."}, {"start": "01:09:16", "end": "01:09:20", "text": "And two of the pictures actually, you"}, {"start": "01:09:18", "end": "01:09:23", "text": "can tell, are in the exact same"}, {"start": "01:09:20", "end": "01:09:25", "text": "position, like the trees."}, {"start": "01:09:23", "end": "01:09:27", "text": "And the way that the planes are facing,"}, {"start": "01:09:25", "end": "01:09:28", "text": "those don't even look like the same"}, {"start": "01:09:27", "end": "01:09:30", "text": "planes, by the way. But the way they're"}, {"start": "01:09:28", "end": "01:09:32", "text": "facing tells me that the disc wasn't"}, {"start": "01:09:30", "end": "01:09:34", "text": "really moving. And if it was, it wasn't"}, {"start": "01:09:32", "end": "01:09:37", "text": "moving too much, but that the plane must"}, {"start": "01:09:34", "end": "01:09:39", "text": "have uh moved around it, which is also,"}, {"start": "01:09:37", "end": "01:09:42", "text": "I think, what was described to have"}, {"start": "01:09:39", "end": "01:09:44", "text": "happened in Calvine. So"}, {"start": "01:09:42", "end": "01:09:46", "text": "fascinating, fascinating case. I did not"}, {"start": "01:09:44", "end": "01:09:50", "text": "think I'd enjoy the story as much as I"}, {"start": "01:09:46", "end": "01:09:52", "text": "do. I actually really like his writing."}, {"start": "01:09:50", "end": "01:09:55", "text": "It gives you a sense of what he might"}, {"start": "01:09:52", "end": "01:09:58", "text": "have felt that dread but fascination at"}, {"start": "01:09:55", "end": "01:10:00", "text": "the same time."}, {"start": "01:09:58", "end": "01:10:04", "text": "Yeah. Let me know what you think below."}, {"start": "01:10:00", "end": "01:10:08", "text": "Is this utter BS or how do you take this"}, {"start": "01:10:04", "end": "01:10:10", "text": "given that you have these photos or are"}, {"start": "01:10:08", "end": "01:10:13", "text": "you waiting to fluctuate that"}, {"start": "01:10:10", "end": "01:10:16", "text": "everchanging"}, {"start": "01:10:13", "end": "01:10:20", "text": "uh percentage of conviction until this"}, {"start": "01:10:16", "end": "01:10:23", "text": "story ends or at least until part two."}, {"start": "01:10:20", "end": "01:10:24", "text": "Let me know. Folks, thank you so much"}, {"start": "01:10:23", "end": "01:10:26", "text": "for joining me. Check out the membership"}, {"start": "01:10:24", "end": "01:10:28", "text": "if you want some extra episodes or if"}, {"start": "01:10:26", "end": "01:10:30", "text": "you want weekly vlogs or if you want"}, {"start": "01:10:28", "end": "01:10:32", "text": "access to the book club. 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[{"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "Welcome back to Third Phase of Moon."}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "You've got the Cousins brothers, Blake"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "and Brent, and we've got the latest"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "coming in from the White House."}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "Trump has dropped cryptic messages."}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "Apparently, something big is going to be"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "dropping tonight. We're going to be"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "covering it all in this episode."}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "Trump said this earlier."}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:26", "text": ">> Like we're releasing a lot of"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "information having to do with"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "extraterrestrial"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "terrestrial"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "uh"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "things and"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "uh people are totally fascinated by it."}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "It's amazing. I I wasn't sure if they"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "would"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "enjoy it. It's literally trending number"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "one. Can you believe it?"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "So, uh"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:48", "text": ">> The number one topic. UFOs, UAPs,"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "extraterrestrials, it's all what"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "everybody wants to know. Are we alone?"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "In our opinion, of course we're not."}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "There's a big cover-up, but maybe"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "there's something about to break. This"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "cryptic message coming in from the White"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "House. Watch this."}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "Okay, what is going on? What's up with"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "these cryptic messages? We see a shadow."}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "Is it an extraterrestrial walking across"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "a sand dunescape? It's hard to tell, but"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "it has this high production value,"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "almost like Day of Disclosure or"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "Spielberg movie."}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "It's kind of crazy, but listen, is there"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "something subliminal here?"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:36", "text": ">> [screaming]"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:47", "text": ">> All right, we hear some kind of"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "whispering, um some kind of subliminal"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "messages. It's hard to make out. Do you"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "hear"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "any words in there? Somebody says,"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "\"They're here.\" \"They're coming.\" Brent,"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "what's your thoughts?"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "I don't know. Yeah, anybody knows what"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "what's going on what they're saying in"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "this message, leave it in the comments."}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "Now listen up. Let's hear it again."}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "It almost sounds like who are they? I'm"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "not sure guys, leave your comments. Like"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "I said, a lot of cryptic messages coming"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "in from the White House today. Very"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "strange times indeed. Here's another"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "one."}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "All right, I don't know what is going on"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "with the White House. We just saw what"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "it looks to be"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "a flying saucer lifting over a person"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "over"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "over some kind of gate or maybe"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "the border. I'm not exactly sure guys."}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "This is uh strange stuff. Let's"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "Let's watch it one more time here."}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "Okay, it opens up with the kind of the"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "YMCA theme and then uh"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "this kind of cheesy AI graphic that"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "they're putting up of some kind of like"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "almost abduction the lifter and lifting"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "this guy over the border wall."}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "I don't know. It's strange, but this"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "next cryptic message that was just"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "dropped moments ago from the White"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "House. This one kind of stands out. And"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "it's it's it's definitely interesting."}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "Watch this."}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "All right, pretty high production coming"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "in from the White House. Uh crop circles"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "uh with states loading. So apparently"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "the White House and aliens.gov"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "uh the Department of War, they're going"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "to be dropping something big and they're"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "loading it up as we speak. Apparently,"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "it's going to be dropping tonight. So,"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "we're going to be standing by all day"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "today seeing what transpires, but"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "what's up with the crop circle and this"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "loading image? Let's watch it one more"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "time coming in from the White House."}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "All right, coming in from President"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "Donald J. Trump coming uh just moments"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "ago"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "on his feed and uh we're sharing it."}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "We're watching this very closely these"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "kind of late-breaking developments. I"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "got a I got a feeling something's going"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "to be going down tonight and uh we're"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "going to be here with you keeping you"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "all informed from around the world."}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "Donald Trump says uh the people are"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "interested in the extraterrestrials."}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "He it's kind of seems like he's"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "surprised by the"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "by just the sheer"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "interest in this topic, but it seems"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "that he understands the world wants to"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "know. We we all want to know what's"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "going on. There's a big cover-up."}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "Whether there's extraterrestrials"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "visiting us or not, I think the big"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "question is"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "the technology. Who has it?"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "Who's suppressing it and when are we"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "going to get some of the benefits from"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "it? That's That's what I'm looking for."}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "The benefits from this technology. But,"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "what's your thoughts on these latest"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "kind of cryptic messages coming in from"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "the White House?"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:24", "text": ">> Yeah, look at that. Trump's just kind of"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "been going off the past couple days and"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "again within an hour this post just"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "dropped with loading. And in my opinion,"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "I think something definitely is going to"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "be dropping tonight, but is this in"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "correspondence with Spielberg's new"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "movie uh Disclosure Day? Cuz that's"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "coming around the corner. There's new"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "trailers dropping on that. Is there kind"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "of some sort of like a collaboration"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "between the White House and Steven"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "Spielberg? Who knows, but it seems like"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "there's something going on, especially"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "with this video where you hear this"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "cryptic sound in the background, this"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "hidden message with kind of the clicks"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "in its own sense like you hear in the"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "disclosure day trailer as well."}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "It seems a little cinema. Obviously,"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "they're setting it up. They're using"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "high graphics, maybe a little AI to"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "create some of these images. I'm not"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "sure. But are they going to drop some"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "real footage tonight that kind of maybe"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "blows the lid off everything?"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "I'm not holding my breath, but there"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "might be something interesting. There"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "might be some tidbits and maybe, you"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "know, trickle down of soft soft"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "disclosure. We'll see."}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:32", "text": ">> Guys, we want to get your opinions. What"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "is going on? It's a wacky wacky world we"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "live in and things just got a little bit"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "more"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "on an upscale of"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "information coming in. People have been"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "waiting for these UFOs being"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "declassified. We've got a trove of them"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "over the past week. Some of them pretty"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "decent, some of them not too great. I"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "have to admit the civilian public"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "evidence is where it's at. But hey,"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "look, if"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "if we have a president that's uploading"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "something and"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "it could change the world. We're going"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "to be on top of it. But this kind of"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "this graphic, I don't know."}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "Of an apparent kind of semi abduction of"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "this man being taken over the border"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "wall. I'm not sure the symbolism behind"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "this."}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "It seems that's a little cheesy that AI"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "graphic, but uh"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "I'm not exactly sure. One thing"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "in my opinion is for sure, I don't think"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "Donald Trump is"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "you know, producing these by himself."}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "He's not the director. He's not a"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "filmmaker. I got a feeling, like you"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "said, Brent, Spielberg and Trump might"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "be"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "collaborating"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "with regards to the new Spielberg movie"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "coming out, Day of Disclosure,"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "Disclosure Day."}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "Uh a lot of mixed messages coming in"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "over the past few days."}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "Are they friendly?"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "Are they"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "malevolent?"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "What is actually going on? These cryptic"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "messages are dropping as we speak. There"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "might be something coming up in just a"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "few moments later tonight. This graphic"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "uh of a crop circle"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "and a helicopter with a spotlight uh"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "shining down on this"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "this loading"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "uh formation, a crop formation showing"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "loading. So, they're loading, in my"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "opinion, something big. And it's"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "interesting that they bring in the"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "phenomenon of the crop circles."}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:30", "text": ">> Yeah, that's kind of uh hand in hand."}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "Obviously, crop circles, UFOs, there's a"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "phenomenon going there. Well, I'm just"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "going to say you could tell people have"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "taken this this uh you know, this topic"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "not too serious. But now I could tell"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "your friends or your family members that"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "the whoever thought you were a cook"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "believing in this stuff, well, right now"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "it's it's the number one topic in the"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "world. And our president is talking"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "about it. So, basically, all you"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "skeptics out there, you could kind of"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "pack up your suitcases and leave at this"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "moment because"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "the White House is dropping the"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "phenomenon to us. And it's on the top of"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "uh the government's mouths right now."}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "We're all talking about it. The world's"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "talking about it."}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:11", "text": ">> Yeah, it's kind of vindication. We've"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "been doing this for almost 20 years on"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "YouTube."}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "Posting the most recent UFO sightings"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "from around the world. Even family"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "members of ours didn't even want to talk"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "to us with regards to the subject matter"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "of UFOs. They They told us, \"Nobody"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "talks about this. Why are you even"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "suggesting the UFO topic?\" But now we"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "could tell some of our relatives, \"Hey,"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "eat some crow now because hey, the world"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "understands there is a phenomenon 100%"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "going on. So, we're in a good place at"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "the moment of bringing you the"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "disclosure. Now, let's hear once again"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "what Donald J. Trump had to stay say the"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "other day here."}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:51", "text": ">> Like we're releasing a lot of"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "information having to do with"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "extraterrestrial"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "terrestrial"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "uh"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "things and"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "uh people are totally fascinated by it."}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "It's amazing that I wasn't sure if they"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "would"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "enjoy it. It's literally trending number"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "one. Could you believe it?"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "So,"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:11", "text": ">> It's interesting that we have a"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "president that says"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "extraterrestrial things. That basically"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "is"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "almost disclosure. He's almost telling"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "us that there's extraterrestrial"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "existence among us right now."}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "And then this clip comes out."}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "All right, is that some kind of alien"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "gray possibly escaping from Area 51 out"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "there"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "in the desert walking along his own and"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "you could kind of see the alien"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "silhouette and you hear"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "kind of subliminal messages of like who"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "are they? That's what I'm kind of making"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "up uh with regards to what I'm hearing"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "in this video. Let's listen to it one"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "more time here."}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "I don't know. It screams to me Spielberg"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "all over it. I got a feeling Spielberg's"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "behind this. Propaganda or is this"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "propaganda? Are we at the cusp of"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "disclosure?"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "Well, I I would say Hollywood, UFOs, and"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "the White House they should they should"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "separate it. Let's not be a propaganda"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "machine as the White House uh you know,"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "propagating a a movie. Even though I'm"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "looking forward to seeing it. Listen to"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "this guy."}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "Can you make out what what's going on?"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "What? Leave it in the comments. We want"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "to know. What do you think's being heard"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "in the background here?"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "In this other video, uh"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "this one again kind of catches me."}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "So, again, uh we have the theme from"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "YMCA, then it kind of cuts out,"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "lifts this guy off the ground, takes him"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "over the border fence, and then just"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "kind of drops him off, and then we see"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "the White House Donald"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "Donald J. Trump's"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "White House official site, and uh we're"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "getting this"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "this kind of cheesy graphic."}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "So, it's a big day. Like I said, we're"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "going to be keeping everybody up-to-date"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "with regards to the latest drops uh"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "coming in from the White House, and"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "I don't know. I got a feeling it's"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "probably just moments away. We're"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "probably going to be back in just uh"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "probably a few hours with regards to uh"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "new information."}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "And uh something's something big is"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "going down here. And then this video,"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "the crop circle loading."}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "What? I'm trying to make out exactly"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "what uh"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "we see the crop circles, but what are"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "these two lights that pop up? Are we"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "missing something here?"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "Right there to the left in the I think"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "the O part portion of the crop of like"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "two lights and a little bit of"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "blue"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "atmospheric light coming off, and uh"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "we have this military helicopter"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "surveying the area."}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "Wow, kind of crazy stuff. Let's listen"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "if we hear anything here."}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "What What are those two lights in that"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "uh bluish hue of color?"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "Maybe we'll find out tonight, Blake."}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "That's a big question. Something's"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "loading and it's might be a big day"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "today. Of Also, speaking of disclosure"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "day, it's It's going to be a first."}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "We're going to be on location"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "at the theaters getting out of the"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "theater reaction of disclosure day and"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "what people think of this new"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "Steven Spielberg film. We can't wait for"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "that. That's going to be pretty"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "exciting."}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "Also, what's exciting is our latest"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "documentary,"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "Battle for Disclosure. Whistleblowers,"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "first-hand eyewitnesses come forward"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "in the latest documentary that we've"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "come out with and you know what? We're"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "giving it away for free on YouTube"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "Movies."}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "We worked really hard on it. Here's the"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "trailer."}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:36", "text": ">> You don't know that at the very top that"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "whole project [music]"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "is being run illegally."}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:42", "text": ">> These are brand new witnesses and"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "they've got bombshell information to"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "talk about."}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:55", "text": ">> These technologies are unsanctioned."}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "They are illegal operations and this can"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "be proven in any court of law."}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:01", "text": ">> It's like, \"Wow, nobody's coming after"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "us. We're going to do this until we can"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "get [music] away with it.\""}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:09", "text": ">> They would have so much control over"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "everything if they had that."}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:14", "text": ">> If this information was all released, it"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "could fall into the wrong hands. It's"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:20", "text": ">> They're using security as a cover for"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "illicit, illegal, or even treasonous"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "activities. [music]"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:25", "text": ">> The members of Congress didn't have the"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "detailed information of the precise"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "location"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:30", "text": ">> where they keep the bodies, the crap,"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "the debris, all the evidence that we've"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "been searching for the last 80 years."}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:36", "text": ">> He knew how to keep a secret. Secrets"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "were his stock and trade."}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:40", "text": ">> They are literally [music] making their"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "own money to fund their own projects."}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:43", "text": ">> We have a source currently in the deep"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "black world."}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:46", "text": ">> It doesn't matter if you're president of"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "the United States, you're not going to"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "talk about that."}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:52", "text": ">> It was this large monolithic slab, but"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "like it was elevated off the ground."}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:56", "text": ">> It is traumatic."}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:57", "text": ">> Look, this is the most top secret"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "you've ever heard of."}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:03", "text": ">> The number one documentary Battle for"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "Disclosure, now available for free on"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "YouTube Movies. 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Like I said, we're going to"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "be"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "uh staying on top of this breaking news"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "story coming out of the White House."}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "Maybe we'll see in just a few moments."}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "Make sure you subscribe. Hit that"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "notification bell not to miss anything."}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:04", "text": "Along with my brother Brent, this is"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "Blake Cousins. Keep your eyes on the"}, {"start": "00:17:04", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "skies, everybody. We're not alone. We'll"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "see you next time."}]

[{"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "Welcome back to Third Phase of Moon."}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "You've got Blake and Brent Cousins, and"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "we're going over more UFO videos dropped"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:18", "text": "by our US government coming out of the"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "Department of War. There was so many"}, {"start": "00:00:18", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "videos we could we couldn't slam it all"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "in in one episode. So, that's why we're"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "doing a follow-up into in today's"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "episode, and we're going to get a closer"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "look at some of the more extreme or"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "would you say maybe more paranormal UFO"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "videos."}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "I think these were the highlights of"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "what was dropped a couple days ago, and"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:43", "text": "we're going to go over it in some detail"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "tonight. So, let's pull up the first one"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "that really got our attention. This one"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "was captured in Iran in 2022. And uh"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "again, we're going to get a little"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "closer. Look at these objects flanking"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "the three ships. Look at this. As we"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "enhance the video, you see four"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "individual orbs"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "hovering just above the the level, the"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "sea level there, leaving no wake"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "whatsoever."}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "What the hell are we looking at here,"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "Brett? Yeah, I really like it. This is"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "captured from a thermal infrared camera,"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "and it's capturing something amazing."}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "Those ships are quite large and we're"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "seeing these these I don't know if you"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "call them spheres. I'm not sure, but"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "they're definitely flanking these uh"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "military ships right here. And you can"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "see it right above the surface almost. I"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "think I could see a reflection off the"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "water itself."}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "This is amazing. I It's not a plane."}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "They're not birds. And it's not"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "Superman. I don't know what this is."}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "Yeah. Once again, we're going to look at"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "it close. At first, I thought that could"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "have been a shadow"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "underneath uh this object, but after we"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "enhance it, I think they're individual"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "objects up to four that I count with"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "regards to this sighting in Afghanistan."}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "And again, maybe it leaves just a sliver"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "of a wake there. Let's see. I don't"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "know. I don't see any disturbance on the"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "water itself uh due to these objects and"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "they're they're clocking a pretty good"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "speed there. You would think you might"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "see some downdraft coming from this, but"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "I don't see any any kind of roto wash or"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "anything coming in from these objects."}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "An incredible capture out of"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "Afghanistan. Now, here's another video"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "that really caught our uh attention. And"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "this one was captured in Afghanistan"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "2020 of what looks to be an obvious"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "sphere, a disc. But look at how it"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "merges within the cloud layer and"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "reverses direction."}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "You know, I would still like 4K footage,"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "but you know, I'm not going to be a I'm"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "not going to complain too much because"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "whatever was captured here, look at this"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "thing off at a distance and just"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "swimming amongst the clouds."}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "You see that as it enters the cloud"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "layer and turns in the opposite"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "direction. Incredible."}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "Yeah, Blake, this video is fascinating."}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "Look at that thing. It It looks large."}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "Probably about, I don't know, 50 to 75"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "ft, maybe even bigger. But look at that"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "as it bleeds right through the clouds"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "and dips right back out. This looks like"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "a classic flying disc. We're seeing it"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "from the top view, so we're not sure."}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "Maybe it's a sphere or disc. So that's"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "kind of up for your opinion. But the"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "best part about it is that we're"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "capturing a capturing an anomaly up"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "there probably about 20 30,000 ft"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "dipping within the clouds there. Kind of"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "like that movie Nope. It It's kind of"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "weird, but look at this thing. Tell us"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "people, leave your comments below. Let's"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "do it right now. Smash that thumbs up"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "and just sm and just leave your"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "comments. What is this?"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "Yeah, we put a lot of enhancement in"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "this one. So hopefully you appreciate"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "it. We got a pretty good close-up look"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "at it. And I kind of like the side"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "byside comparison of the original video"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "right here. Look how off in the distance"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "it is. It's pretty clear at this point."}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "And you can see it again swimming"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "amongst the clouds. This uh this"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "sighting is I think one of the most"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "spectacular ones uh from the drop from"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "the Department of War and uh we're"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "looking at it right now."}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "All right, let's go to this uh video"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "coming in from uh Juno in 2024."}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "More footage"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "of an anomaly. And uh when we looked at"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "this one today, look at"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "look almost how you can see"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "subtle burst of of energy propulsion"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "around this craft. What What kind of"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "propulsion is this?"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "It almost"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "seems like there multiple jet"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "propulsions surrounding this orb and"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "then it turns black. This is uh"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "incredible. You could almost see it turn"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "into two objects. But this pulsing of"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "light that that's what's catching me"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "there like they're almost little mini"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "rocket boosters,"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "but it stays stable as it traverses"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "across the sky right over the ocean"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "surface there."}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "All right, more videos that we kind of"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "stood out to us. Take a look at this."}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "All right. This video from an unknown"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "location captured by a military drone."}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "September, I think 22nd, 2014. This was"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "captured of multiple drones moving at a"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "high rate of speed, just meters below"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "the surveillance drone that captured"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "this."}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "Look at the consistency of these"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "multiple objects moving across the"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "camera view. One, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8,"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "nine individual objects in unison."}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "Uh, once again, pretty cool stuff coming"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "out of the White House here or the"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "Department of War. Guys, what's your"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "thoughts on that?"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "Let's see. More uh more footage coming"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "in from this"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "captured in 2019 from an unknown"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "location. I guess they didn't want to"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "exactly share, but look at when you do a"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "little bit of enhancement. This pops up."}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "We You barely saw it on the original"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "post, but there's something going on"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "right here."}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "We see multiple objects almost kind of"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "disintegrating or multiplying. You could"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "barely see it, but after the"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "enhancement, we're we're getting kind of"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "something spectacular here."}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "Yeah, that's this is good enhancement."}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "Definitely something strange is going"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "there. We have the c the circle. It's"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "going to show we're going to show it one"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "more time."}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "And here's another vantage point we're"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "looking at here. We're all kind of"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "watching this in real time with you"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "guys. So bear with us. But this is uh"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "again more footage coming in at the"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "bottom left. Let's take a look. What do"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "we got?"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "All right. This was captured uh"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "September 25th, 2019"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "over a seapport of once again"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "undisclosed location. But look at they"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "were tracking this one UFO"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "and then another one comes into frame"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "and pretty much speeds by the first UFO."}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "Just kind of flanks it there."}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "A little bit enhancement. We're pulling"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "up on the object, but whatever it was is"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "moving quite uh at a fast rate of speed."}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "And again in September 25th, 2019,"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "something was captured at this un"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "unknown location. Again, this was"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "filmed. This was in the first drop or"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "the second trove. And this one kind of"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "caught our interest. We wanted to"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "enhance it in today's episode and get a"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "closer look of what you see in the"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "background, an airplane. But in the"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "foreground, we have this UFO that"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "appears once again into frame and just"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "basically zooms right past this"}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "aircraft. We slowed it down uh just it"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "only lasted for a few seconds. That's"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "why we were doing this enhancement"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "episode of some of the more outstanding"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "videos of that was been dropped in this"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "second trove or tranch of UFO videos."}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "Again, we've got another video of of"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "what looks to be some kind of once again"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "an object but moving in erratic"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "um flight patterns here."}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "So, the video was rolling for a few"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "minutes. This was captured a few moments"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "later, approximately 2 minutes after uh"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "what we just saw of what looks to be one"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "of the most unusual UFO sightings uh"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "captured by our military drone. This is"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "an extreme closeup of what we're looking"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "at, but it seems to be morphing in"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "shape. You see almost an appendage come"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "off of this. Is this some kind of uh"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "biological UFO? Okay, here we got"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "another UFO video. You see this thing"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "just zoom right past the battleship."}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "It's to the right. They're kind of"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "getting it center framed."}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "And uh once again, another undisclosed"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "location, but"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "this thing's moving and being clocked at"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "a pretty incredible speed."}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "Again, some of these UFOs coming in from"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "the government. I have to say, the"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "civilian evidence still blows anything"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "away than what the government's given"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "us. 100%. We are happy that they are"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "sharing these anomalies. Look at this"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "one that just zoomed right past. I think"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "this is a submarine, a Russian submarine"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "possibly. And while they're surveying"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "the Russian submarine in the Pacific"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "Ocean, I think that anomaly came up. Now"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "we got this video."}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "This object was captured January 1st,"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "2021."}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "And once again, an extreme closeup of"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "what appears to be a metallic disc."}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "You could kind of see the shimmer of"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "light coming off this. There's a little"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "of a pendage coming on the bottom"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "portion of this disc. Brett, what do you"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "make of it? Yeah, look at that rotation."}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "That was curious. Now, we got a color"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "footage coming in from the Department of"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "War captured on a military base."}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "And this showcases some sort of light"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "off in the distance kind of observing"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "the military base in the desert. This"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "was captured by military personnel that"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "were staying at the base. What is this?"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "It's It's a bright light in the sky and"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "you can see it kind of shimmer through"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "the clouds. I like this video."}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "Yeah. What? There's an interesting story"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "behind this. And once again, the base is"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "undisclosed, but this was again captured"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "by military personnel with it with his"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "own cell phone. and he uh"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "submitted this evidence. He's remaining"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "they're keeping his identity"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "secret at the moment, but they thought"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "this was pretty good to just put it out"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "there in this drop. And whatever this"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "source of light is, if you're on a"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "military base and you see something like"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "this and it's it's not it's in"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "restricted airspace, you can imagine"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "kind of the concern that these military"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "personnel could have with regards to"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "these visitations from the unknown. Look"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "at the bright luminosity coming off"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "this."}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "Again, not captured by a drone or a"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "military pilot. This was captured by a"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "military personnel on an undisclosed"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "military base. Kind of interesting stuff"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "here."}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "Yeah, it's kind of funny. We dropped uh"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "we dropped yesterday's video and we'll"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "see what happens today. But nobody's"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "claiming that this is AI or CGI,"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "especially AI in today's world. But here"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "at Thirdphase Moon, we focus on showing"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "real videos. And hey, people could call"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "this out as AI, too. I don't know why"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "they don't, but you trust the"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "government. Well, anyway, we're looking"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "at this. And uh, another drop. Let's"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "take a look at this."}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "This video was captured in 2019 June."}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "And what we're looking at, even though"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "it's faint, you see a lot of orbs rising"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "behind this tower here, almost like an"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "invasion of UFOs. You could count"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "multiple UFOs just raising around this"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "thing."}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "Again, pretty pretty faint. But after"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "the enhancement,"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "you see a lot of other UFOs dispersing"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "and coming from and to this area. Now,"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "this other video really caught her."}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "So, once again, we have the individual"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "UFO, but another a second appears right"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "there from the left hand area and then"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "once again just kind of speed races past"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "the other one and they do these kind of"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "cool and incredible quick maneuvers."}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "Look at that. So, we're going to watch"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "it once again. Are these guys just"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "having fun with one another? Like"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "they're racing like it's a car race over"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "the ocean. But again, look at this"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "flight characteristics here. They"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "undulate in unconventional manners right"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "here."}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "Video captured June"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "2024 undisclosed location somewhere in"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "the Middle East. They could reveal that."}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "But again, we shared this video last"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "night and we're going to enhance it"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "because this one uh stood out to us once"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "again of this disc just tra traversing"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "across the in my opinion this is"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "probably Afghanistan, the Afghan"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "mountains, maybe somewhere in uh the"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "Atlas Mountains, Africa somewhere. I'm"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "not exactly sure. But we're looking at"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "this disc and it stands out as one of"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "the better captures uh dropped by the"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "Department of War. So that's our episode"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "tonight. We've got a lot more civilian"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "UFO videos coming up in the next"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "episode, but we want to also remind you"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "battle for disclosure. It's free to"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "watch right now. The link is below."}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:03", "text": ">> You don't know that at the very top that"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "whole project is being run illegally."}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "These are brand new witnesses and"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "they've got bombshell information to"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "talk about."}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:20", "text": ">> These technologies are unsanctioned."}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "They are illegal operations and this can"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "be proven in any court of law. It's"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "like, wow, nobody's coming after us."}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "We're going to do this until we can get"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "away with it."}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "They would have so much control over"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "everything if they had that."}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "If this information was all released, it"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "could fall into the wrong hands."}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:45", "text": ">> They're using security as a cover for"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "illicit or legal or even treasonous"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "activities."}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:50", "text": ">> The members of Congress didn't have the"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "detailed information of the precise"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "location"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:55", "text": ">> where they keep the bodies, the crack,"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "the debris, all the evidence that we've"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "been searching for the last 80 years. He"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "knew how to keep a secret. Secrets were"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "his stopped in trade."}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:05", "text": ">> They are literally making their own"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "money to fund their own projects. We"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "have a source currently in the deep"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "black world."}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:11", "text": ">> It doesn't matter if you're president of"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "the United States, you're not going to"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "talk about that."}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:17", "text": ">> There was this large monolithic slab."}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "Looked like it was elevated off of the"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "ground."}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:21", "text": ">> It is traumatic."}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:23", "text": ">> Look, this is the most top secret ship"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "you've ever heard of. The number one"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "documentary, Battle for Disclosure, now"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "available for free on YouTube movies."}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "Watch now. Link below in description."}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:39", "text": ">> Battle for Disclosure available right"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "now on YouTube Movies."}, {"start": "00:16:39", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "It's groundbreaking. You We get to speak"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "to firsthand whistleblowers. You won't"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "be disappointed."}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "Battle for Disclosure. We worked really"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "hard on this documentary. traveled"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "multiple times to Washington DC to meet"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "up with lawmakers and whistleblowers to"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "bring you the latest in disclosure. And"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "Battle for Disclosure is one of those"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "movies that breaks down the walls as far"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "as the cover up by major media and our"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "government with regards to the"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "phenomenon. So once again, check out"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "Battle for Disclosure available right"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "now on YouTube Movies. The link is in"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "the description. Keep your eyes on the"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "skies everybody. We're not alone. Blake"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "Cousins. We'll see you next time."}]

[{"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "Welcome back to Third Phase of Moon."}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "You've got Blake and Brent Cousins, and"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "we've got the latest trunch of UFO"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "videos. There it is, coming in from"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "alen.gov,"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "the official site from the White House,"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "dropping more UFO evidence. We're going"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "to go over it tonight. You're looking at"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "some of it right now. There's some"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "incredible uh imagery coming in, I"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "think, for the first time. I'm kind of"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "impressed what the government's giving"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "us. Take a look at this one"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "right there on the bottom left hand"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "corner. You see a UFO flank these three"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "ships. You see the shadows? Pretty"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "incredible. More UFO videos. Apparently,"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "this one takes off in an instantaneous"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "acceleration. Watch this."}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "They've got it locked in."}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "They're tracking the UFO. But watch this"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "maneuver. Boom. Did you see that? That's"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "That's insane stuff."}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "We're going to look at it one more time."}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "Uh enhanced footage. The black boxes you"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "see, that's redacted information coming"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "in from the sensors from"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "from the cameras that shot this video."}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "They're keeping that classified, but"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "they're declassifying this UFO video."}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "Look at that. That's insane, Brian. Wow."}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "That's pretty impressive right there."}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "We're going to do this at 50 speed."}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "They got a good track at this. I think"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "this was captured from a drone. And the"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "camera's just locked in on this thing."}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "And look at the acceleration. Wow. It"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "just takes off like a blink of an eye."}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "I guess they like this 2021 image in uh"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "aliens.gov. They're doing their own"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "enhancements. Now we're watching it. But"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "look at the acceleration there. Could"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "you imagine being inside that craft if"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "there was"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "if there was no super cavitation? You'd"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "be slammed up against the wall or the"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "the ship itself would basically"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "disintegrate under that kind of"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "pressure, but it remains intact. And it"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "does this 90%"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "uh 90 degree takeoff at incredible"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "speeds. Pretty amazing stuff here."}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "All right, guys. What What is this? What"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "are we looking at? Is this something"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "otherworldly or is it some kind of black"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "budget"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "program using reverse engineered alien"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "technology? Now, here's another video."}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "This thing's moving around, looping in"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "the sky."}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "Unconventional"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "in nature. No doubt about it."}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "We're just kind of watching this in real"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "time. We haven't even seen these videos."}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "We're watching it for the first time as"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "well as you are right here at Thirdphase"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "Moon. Thanks for joining us from around"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "the world. It's good to be back. We just"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "got back from Washington DC on the first"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "drop. But here here we go. Another UFO."}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "They're trying to lock in on it. Look at"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "the acceleration on this one."}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "It's pretty crazy that now in the era of"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "2026,"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "the White House and the administration"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "is finally releasing UFO files. We're"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "living in unprecedented times right now."}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "Look at this. It's It's having a hard"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "time to lock on to this UFO because of"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "its strange erratic maneuvers, moving"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "along through the sky. No means of"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "propulsion."}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "Some kind of plasmic orb accelerating,"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "dis decelerating, moving from left to"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "right."}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "Yeah. Last week we're in DC right when"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "we're doing the international press club"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "with Dr. Steven Greer and within hours"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "Trump administration dropped the first"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "uh trove of UFOs and now within a week"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "we're getting a a whole new batch of"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "these unidentified flying objects"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "released from our government. This this"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "is unprecedented stuff. This is cool."}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "Look at this thing."}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "the technology we have to lock on to"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "these UFOs. That's pretty impressive,"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "too, I got to say."}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "But again, no means of any kind of heat"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "signature."}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "No propellant. No, no propellers."}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "And then, wow. Again, it just takes off"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "at an incredible rate of speed. Good"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "catch, guys."}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "Like I said, we've got a lot of UFO"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "videos coming in in this trunch coming"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "out of alens.gov. Here's another video"}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "just in. Take a look."}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "All right. What are we looking at here,"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "guys?"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "At first, I kind of thought maybe maybe"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "they're just birds,"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "but as we look at it, we we see some"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "kind of wings on these things, but look"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "how close in formation they are"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "together, these four objects. I don't"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "see any flapping of wings or anything."}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "And uh they they're in close proximity"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "to each other. It seems"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "it seems that we're looking at four"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "unidentified objects right here."}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "Once again, more footage coming out of"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "aliens.gov."}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "Wow, that they almost merged. It almost"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "seems like they're all merging together"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "there at one point. The upper portion"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "now. They almost look like almost just"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "two objects."}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "Yeah, I think this drop uh that the"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "White House did today is actually much"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "better than the first uh trove or tranch"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "of UFO videos. And again, look at these"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "look at these objects. They kind of"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "separate attached to one another. At"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "first there was four and now it almost"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "looks like there's three. It almost"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "looks like they're skimming off the"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "surface of the water there. Almost"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "becoming transmedium."}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "This video lasts"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "for quite some time locking in on these"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "unidentified objects."}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "Little digital breakup there, but"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "they're still managing to keep up"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "with whatever these things are. Guys,"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "can you tell us what we're looking at"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "here?"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "Look at it. Almost looks like they're"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "spitting out little orbs coming off the"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "back of the the craft there. They're"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "trying to lock onto it again here from a"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "Is this from a different angle? Looks"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "like"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "Oh, wow."}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "Again, we're just watching this in real"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "time with everybody guys. We want to get"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "your comments. And in this episode,"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "you're going to see a lot of evidence"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "coming out of aliens.gov. And we're"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "looking at it right now."}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "First, I counted four. Now, we're"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "looking at three objects. They're kind"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "of getting a little pixelated there or"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "almost translucent."}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "Oh, now now they're back to four of them"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "again,"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "mingling among each other as they"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "just traverse."}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "across the uh above the ocean floor"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "there."}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "The videos that we received, there's no"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "audio backing it up. We don't hear any"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "kind of reaction from"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "either the drone operator or the pilot."}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "is that all the videos just came just"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "like this with no um"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "no underlying audio coming in from the"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "military."}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "Now look, they all merged all together"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "right there. They almost did that in a"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "sequence to hit that formation."}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "Yeah. the range of videos we receive."}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "Some some of them go for 3 to four"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "minutes, some last for maybe about 20 or"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "30 seconds, but this one I think lasts"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "approximately 3 to four minutes."}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "And again, these this formation of UFOs,"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "they seem very consistent in their"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "trajectory, but their formations when"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "they merge in and out of one another,"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "that's kind of interesting."}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "There we go. It's kind of they're trying"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "to clear up a little bit."}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "Some breaking news. Tulsi Gabber just"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "resigned uh from the White House today"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "due to some complications with her"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "husband having some issues with with"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "cancer. So, she just gave her"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "resignation to the White House"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "under what she knows about these UFO"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "videos."}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "I'm sure there's going to be a lot more."}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "I think like uh Dr. Greer told us when"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "we were in Washington DC that this is"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "this first trunch of UFOs is just kind"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "of the tip of the iceberg. And"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "apparently Trump was kind of"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "disappointed in the first first drop. I"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "think we're getting a little bit more"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "more data on this one. Again, some of"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "these black squares that you see on the"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "on the image, it's redacted"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "classified"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "sensors"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "that they don't want you to know exactly"}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "how they captured these objects, but"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "they're definitely showing us the video"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "itself, and that's what we want to see."}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "Brett, what do you make of this? This"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "video lasts for some time here. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "people might say they could be birds or"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "balloons, but hey, we we've see birds"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "fly. They kind of they waver. These"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "seems to be kind of connected. They're"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "they're streamlined and there's no"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "erratic movements. I don't see no"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "flapping wings. They seem like it"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "they're on a mission."}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "And it seems like the drone has got a"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "lock on them. They don't know what they"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "don't know what it is. These are"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "unidentified flying objects. And these"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "drones are, you know, they're worth"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "millions of dollars. It's high-end"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "equipment. They wouldn't really waste"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "their time focusing on something"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "mundane. They're interested in this"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "because the these are unidentified"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "flying objects. Look at these things."}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "They're actually now they're almost"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "connecting again here. Look at that."}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "What's going on here, guys? What are we"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "looking at? Is this a phenomenon?"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "Wow, they almost merged into one object"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "there."}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "But once again, uh, could these be"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "drones that they're tracking?"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "Drones from another world,"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "Lockheed Skunk Works, Rathon. Is it some"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "of that technology that they're keeping"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "secret from the people?"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "Again, we're watching this in real time"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "with everybody uh from around the world."}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "This new drop of UFOs, UAPs, whatever"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "you want to call it. We call it the"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "phenomenon. And uh we're looking at"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "something unexplained at the moment. We"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "don't know what it is."}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "some pixelation issues. But once again,"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "these objects were all there's like four"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "of them. Now we're looking at basically"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "one object as they merged into one. Wild"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "stuff here."}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "a video uh breakdown here. Getting a"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "little pixelated, but we still see the"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "object. Once the there were four"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "objects, now it seems to be one."}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "They all conjoined."}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:50", "text": "All right. So, I guess that's one video."}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "That's the Oh, wow. It just took off"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "right there. Here's another drop."}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "Different location."}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "That one just lasted for a few seconds"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "here. Take a look at this. Another video"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "coming in."}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "I guess camera noticed something and"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "they're tracking"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "or trying to find"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "the UFO"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "over some farmland."}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "There it is. They got it."}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "You see it right there? Right between uh"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "right there up the upper part of the"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "crosshair in the center of the screen."}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "You see this white orb"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "hovering over the countryside farmland."}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "And this thing's moving at a pretty high"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "rate of speed here. This isn't no bird"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "or a balloon."}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "Definitely. It seems like it's"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "intelligent in its"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "flight characteristics here."}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "Look at this."}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "Kind of clock this at what what would"}, {"start": "00:15:03", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "you say, Brett? About maybe 150, 200"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "miles an hour. Yeah, it looks like it's"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "really moving. But it could be the"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "parallax, too. The drone could be"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "wrapping around this thing and creating"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "a parallax effect, creating this kind of"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "motion. I'm not sure, but it does look"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "like, in my opinion, that this thing's"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "cooking. It's moving fast."}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "Now, he's got it pretty far pulled back."}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "It seems like he's kind of like"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "surveying the area so it could get"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "another lock on on this object here."}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "Let's see if they do it."}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "Zooming in. Where is it?"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "I think they kind of lock their cameras"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "down, sta have it stationary, and just"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "wait for it to come into view, which I"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "would assume could happen any moment"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "now. They've lost sight of the object."}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "Where is it?"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "It's interesting. Like I said, we're"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "watching this uh for the first time."}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "Let's see if they could get a lock on"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "this thing once again."}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "They pulled the shot out a little bit,"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "seeing if they could. Now they zoomed"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "out even more."}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "Little slight rotation of the camera"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "trying to lock in on this thing. They"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "did this. Did they lose it?"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "All right. No sight of the UFO just yet."}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "They're panning around surveying the"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "area."}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "Still no sight of it. It's interesting"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "though what I don't know what the"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "purpose was why they were out there"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "filming this area under with these spy"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "drones or is this a I think this is a"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "spy drone. Brett"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "and then for what reason? What what were"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "they looking for? or was it specifically"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "looking for"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "the UFO itself? Right now, they seem"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "that they've they're having a hard time"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "finding it."}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "All right, we got another video coming"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "up in just a few moments, but they"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "wanted to hold on to this one. Maybe"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "there's uh more to this video than than"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "what we just saw in the beginning of it."}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "Seems like they're"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "having some problems locating the"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "unidentified flying object. They got it"}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "in the beginning. It was moving pretty"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "fast and then just kind of like"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "disappeared right in front of them. All"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "right. I guess uh they were unable to"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "find the UFO after that. Okay, let's"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "let's pull up the next video coming in"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "from the drop today. Here we go. Take a"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "look at this."}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "Wow,"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "that was a fast mover right there."}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "The camera just like What the heck is"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "that? They're trying to relocate it. See"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:15", "text": "if they could track it down."}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "Pretty much just went out of view. The"}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "thing just uh There it is. They got it"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "now. Let's get a zoom in. Come on. It's"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "off in the distance. Just right there."}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "moving among uh right above the cloud"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "layer."}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "There it is to the right. And they're"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "tracking it. Let's lock it in"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "again. What are these orbs?"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "What are they up to?"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "Wow, they almost really got a good"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "closeup on that one. And I guess they"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "lost it in the cloud layer here."}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "Kind of you see me now you don't kind of"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "thing. Maybe they're playing games with"}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:04", "text": "the military. I'm not sure. Here's"}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "another video that just dropped today."}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "Watch this."}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:12", "text": "Looks like some kind of oil tanker out"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "there. They're keeping an eye on it."}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "And"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:19", "text": "it's interesting all these cameras,"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "these this footage, the military's out"}, {"start": "00:20:19", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "there filming and then all of a sudden"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "these UFOs uh start to appear"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "on video. Let's see what happens in this"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "one."}, {"start": "00:20:35", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "All right, so they pulled back. I think"}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "that's the oil tanker. What are we"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:43", "text": "looking at here?"}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "What is this?"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:13", "text": "Right. If anybody's in the chat, can he"}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "if he understand what we're looking at?"}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "That to me looks like maybe some kind of"}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "ship out in the ocean."}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "Is that an oil tanker or a battleship?"}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:31", "text": "Maybe an oil rig?"}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "I'm not sure. I haven't seen anything"}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "an uh any phenomenon yet. No anomalies."}, {"start": "00:21:57", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "Looks like a what is this? A a series of"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "oil rigs,"}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:09", "text": "but I do not see the UFO phenomenon. Why"}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "Why did they drop this video? I'm I'm"}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:14", "text": "curious."}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "You see anything there, Brent?"}, {"start": "00:22:14", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "I'm keeping my eyes open. I don't see"}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "anything on this one. Even uh that one"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:23", "text": "video particularly uh right before this"}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "video, we're watching it. We didn't, you"}, {"start": "00:22:23", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "know, they're tracking that one orb and"}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:28", "text": "then it disappeared and they're just"}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "kind of just running the camera, I"}, {"start": "00:22:28", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "guess. Let's just run it. Let's see what"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:37", "text": "happens. Right now, I don't see the"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "phenomenon. No UFOs, but it seems like"}, {"start": "00:22:37", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "they're running their camera on"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "something. What are we looking at here"}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:44", "text": "again? Another uh ocean. There's Is that"}, {"start": "00:22:42", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "an oil tanker? It's definitely on the"}, {"start": "00:22:44", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "ocean. We're looking at a ship."}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:51", "text": "But where's the UFOs, guys? I don't see"}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:52", "text": "it."}, {"start": "00:22:51", "end": "00:22:55", "text": ">> Is that"}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:58", "text": ">> Is that Are we I see four kind of faint"}, {"start": "00:22:55", "end": "00:22:59", "text": "objects. I'm not sure if that's what"}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "we're looking at. What we're supposed to"}, {"start": "00:22:59", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "be focused on."}, {"start": "00:23:07", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "Where's the UFO, guys?"}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:16", "text": "Okay, we got a pullback here. Okay. Do"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "we see any orbs or any suspicious uh"}, {"start": "00:23:16", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "activity in the sky? I see"}, {"start": "00:23:21", "end": "00:23:25", "text": "there. What's that?"}, {"start": "00:23:23", "end": "00:23:28", "text": "I think that's just the wake of the"}, {"start": "00:23:25", "end": "00:23:28", "text": "ship."}, {"start": "00:23:34", "end": "00:23:37", "text": "Seems like they're browsing the area."}, {"start": "00:23:36", "end": "00:23:39", "text": "There we go. We got We do have"}, {"start": "00:23:37", "end": "00:23:41", "text": "something. It's kind of like a you know,"}, {"start": "00:23:39", "end": "00:23:43", "text": "it's a white dot. We we're not making"}, {"start": "00:23:41", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "much out of this. I don't see any"}, {"start": "00:23:43", "end": "00:23:48", "text": "erratic motion,"}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:51", "text": "but there's something there. Quite"}, {"start": "00:23:48", "end": "00:23:51", "text": "small, though."}, {"start": "00:23:52", "end": "00:23:58", "text": "Seems like uh they're trying to lock in"}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:24:02", "text": "on that faint object moving kind of"}, {"start": "00:23:58", "end": "00:24:06", "text": "left to right."}, {"start": "00:24:02", "end": "00:24:09", "text": "Struggling to get the shot though."}, {"start": "00:24:06", "end": "00:24:11", "text": "Uh this one"}, {"start": "00:24:09", "end": "00:24:14", "text": "sometimes I just wonder why why they"}, {"start": "00:24:11", "end": "00:24:16", "text": "keep some of this de uh classified. It's"}, {"start": "00:24:14", "end": "00:24:19", "text": "cool that they're declassifying it, but"}, {"start": "00:24:16", "end": "00:24:21", "text": "I don't see any"}, {"start": "00:24:19", "end": "00:24:24", "text": "anything extraordinary in this"}, {"start": "00:24:21", "end": "00:24:26", "text": "particular video. Why they would keep"}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "this a secret, I have no idea. But yeah,"}, {"start": "00:24:26", "end": "00:24:29", "text": "it's good that they're putting it out"}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:31", "text": "again. Like I said, we there's so many"}, {"start": "00:24:29", "end": "00:24:34", "text": "videos that were dropped today. We're"}, {"start": "00:24:31", "end": "00:24:39", "text": "just going over them in real time. We're"}, {"start": "00:24:34", "end": "00:24:43", "text": "watching it for the first time with you."}, {"start": "00:24:39", "end": "00:24:47", "text": "We haven't seen these videos until now."}, {"start": "00:24:43", "end": "00:24:51", "text": "And again, uh, this video didn't amount"}, {"start": "00:24:47", "end": "00:24:53", "text": "to much, that one. All right, let's move"}, {"start": "00:24:51", "end": "00:24:57", "text": "along to the next video that was just"}, {"start": "00:24:53", "end": "00:24:57", "text": "dropped today. Take a look."}, {"start": "00:25:02", "end": "00:25:05", "text": "All right, there there's this airplane."}, {"start": "00:25:03", "end": "00:25:07", "text": "I I think I saw this. There it is. Look"}, {"start": "00:25:05", "end": "00:25:09", "text": "at this UFO zoom right past the"}, {"start": "00:25:07", "end": "00:25:11", "text": "airplane."}, {"start": "00:25:09", "end": "00:25:15", "text": "So, that's got to be clocking at least 3"}, {"start": "00:25:11", "end": "00:25:18", "text": "to 500 miles an hour approximately"}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "that speed. That's pretty cool stuff."}, {"start": "00:25:18", "end": "00:25:22", "text": "Look at all the redacted information,"}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:25", "text": "the data, the metadata with regards to"}, {"start": "00:25:22", "end": "00:25:26", "text": "capturing this. Let's watch it. That"}, {"start": "00:25:25", "end": "00:25:28", "text": "thing just kind of zoomed by the"}, {"start": "00:25:26", "end": "00:25:31", "text": "airplane pretty quickly. That That was"}, {"start": "00:25:28", "end": "00:25:31", "text": "kind of cool."}, {"start": "00:25:33", "end": "00:25:38", "text": "And then it's gone. Like these cameras,"}, {"start": "00:25:35", "end": "00:25:41", "text": "these operators are really having a hard"}, {"start": "00:25:38", "end": "00:25:44", "text": "time keeping up on these anomalous"}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:46", "text": "objects. Okay, another video right uh"}, {"start": "00:25:44", "end": "00:25:48", "text": "dropped today. We're looking at it. I"}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:52", "text": "guess I see"}, {"start": "00:25:48", "end": "00:25:54", "text": "right there a black dot. They're kind of"}, {"start": "00:25:52", "end": "00:25:58", "text": "tracking in on it. See, let's see if"}, {"start": "00:25:54", "end": "00:25:58", "text": "they zoom in on this bad boy."}, {"start": "00:26:09", "end": "00:26:14", "text": "I guess there's that the black dot is"}, {"start": "00:26:11", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "kind of on the far left of the camera."}, {"start": "00:26:14", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "You can't see it right now."}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:23", "text": "I think it's in the redacted area"}, {"start": "00:26:20", "end": "00:26:27", "text": "portion to the left."}, {"start": "00:26:23", "end": "00:26:27", "text": "Oh, there it is. They"}, {"start": "00:26:33", "end": "00:26:38", "text": "Okay, scramble. Get the shot, guys."}, {"start": "00:26:37", "end": "00:26:40", "text": "Wonder if they get excited when they're"}, {"start": "00:26:38", "end": "00:26:42", "text": "tracking these things like, \"Holy crap,"}, {"start": "00:26:40", "end": "00:26:44", "text": "what is that?\" And they start to"}, {"start": "00:26:42", "end": "00:26:49", "text": "scramble. It's in real time. You kind of"}, {"start": "00:26:44", "end": "00:26:53", "text": "get excited seeing the phenomenon."}, {"start": "00:26:49", "end": "00:26:55", "text": "Right now I I I'm struggling to see what"}, {"start": "00:26:53", "end": "00:26:58", "text": "if anything they're looking at anymore."}, {"start": "00:26:55", "end": "00:27:04", "text": "They might have lost sight of it."}, {"start": "00:26:58", "end": "00:27:04", "text": "Did the thing just come to a stop?"}, {"start": "00:27:07", "end": "00:27:10", "text": "Again,"}, {"start": "00:27:14", "end": "00:27:20", "text": "just this kind of just raw video coming"}, {"start": "00:27:18", "end": "00:27:24", "text": "in from alens.gov."}, {"start": "00:27:20", "end": "00:27:27", "text": "A trove of UFO videos dropping today."}, {"start": "00:27:24", "end": "00:27:28", "text": "We're going over it right now."}, {"start": "00:27:27", "end": "00:27:31", "text": "Again, we did we didn't want to edit it."}, {"start": "00:27:28", "end": "00:27:34", "text": "We just w kind of grabbed the the"}, {"start": "00:27:31", "end": "00:27:36", "text": "payload to per se of what they dropped"}, {"start": "00:27:34", "end": "00:27:38", "text": "today and just brought it here to third"}, {"start": "00:27:36", "end": "00:27:40", "text": "phase. and we want to get it out as as"}, {"start": "00:27:38", "end": "00:27:42", "text": "fast as possible. If you've been"}, {"start": "00:27:40", "end": "00:27:43", "text": "wondering what we've been doing, why we"}, {"start": "00:27:42", "end": "00:27:45", "text": "haven't been posting lately, don't"}, {"start": "00:27:43", "end": "00:27:47", "text": "worry. We've been working incredibly"}, {"start": "00:27:45", "end": "00:27:50", "text": "hard behind the scenes with regards to"}, {"start": "00:27:47", "end": "00:27:52", "text": "disclosure. Big projects coming up and"}, {"start": "00:27:50", "end": "00:27:56", "text": "we're going to let the world know with"}, {"start": "00:27:52", "end": "00:27:58", "text": "regards to some of the stuff uh we just"}, {"start": "00:27:56", "end": "00:28:00", "text": "the information we just came across."}, {"start": "00:27:58", "end": "00:28:03", "text": "Like I said, we're in Washington DC last"}, {"start": "00:28:00", "end": "00:28:05", "text": "week during the National Press Club."}, {"start": "00:28:03", "end": "00:28:08", "text": "Got done with the documentary over"}, {"start": "00:28:05", "end": "00:28:10", "text": "there. We have something special with"}, {"start": "00:28:08", "end": "00:28:14", "text": "regards to David Wilcock, his final"}, {"start": "00:28:10", "end": "00:28:16", "text": "work. He was really excited about"}, {"start": "00:28:14", "end": "00:28:19", "text": "what this project that Brandon and I"}, {"start": "00:28:16", "end": "00:28:20", "text": "worked on with David and the world's"}, {"start": "00:28:19", "end": "00:28:24", "text": "going to see it. It's it's incredible."}, {"start": "00:28:20", "end": "00:28:27", "text": "It's with regards to levitation"}, {"start": "00:28:24", "end": "00:28:30", "text": "and uh I can't wait to show the world"}, {"start": "00:28:27", "end": "00:28:34", "text": "what David Wilcock had to say. His his"}, {"start": "00:28:30", "end": "00:28:37", "text": "basically last major interview. It's a"}, {"start": "00:28:34", "end": "00:28:40", "text": "beautifully shot documentary."}, {"start": "00:28:37", "end": "00:28:42", "text": "Exciting. We're going to be uh dropping"}, {"start": "00:28:40", "end": "00:28:44", "text": "some more intel on that. A major press"}, {"start": "00:28:42", "end": "00:28:46", "text": "release is going to be dropping with"}, {"start": "00:28:44", "end": "00:28:49", "text": "regards to David Wilco. But right now,"}, {"start": "00:28:46", "end": "00:28:52", "text": "we're looking at footage"}, {"start": "00:28:49", "end": "00:28:55", "text": "dropping today from alens.gov. The new"}, {"start": "00:28:52", "end": "00:28:58", "text": "website. I guess it's been hit"}, {"start": "00:28:55", "end": "00:29:00", "text": "approaching almost like 1.5 billion"}, {"start": "00:28:58", "end": "00:29:02", "text": "views on that site."}, {"start": "00:29:00", "end": "00:29:05", "text": "I'm surprised the site's still up. Some"}, {"start": "00:29:02", "end": "00:29:07", "text": "sites can't handle that kind of"}, {"start": "00:29:05", "end": "00:29:10", "text": "audience, but wow, 1.5 billion people"}, {"start": "00:29:07", "end": "00:29:12", "text": "have already visited aliens.gov. The"}, {"start": "00:29:10", "end": "00:29:14", "text": "world is really interested in the topic,"}, {"start": "00:29:12", "end": "00:29:16", "text": "obviously."}, {"start": "00:29:14", "end": "00:29:19", "text": "And for the first time, unprecedented."}, {"start": "00:29:16", "end": "00:29:22", "text": "We have an admin administration in the"}, {"start": "00:29:19", "end": "00:29:24", "text": "White House"}, {"start": "00:29:22", "end": "00:29:27", "text": "declassifying UFO videos shot by the"}, {"start": "00:29:24", "end": "00:29:29", "text": "military. So, we're living in exciting"}, {"start": "00:29:27", "end": "00:29:31", "text": "times. And apparently, there's going to"}, {"start": "00:29:29", "end": "00:29:35", "text": "be a huge announcement coming up. What"}, {"start": "00:29:31", "end": "00:29:38", "text": "is it? Uh June 8th is the the rumor that"}, {"start": "00:29:35", "end": "00:29:40", "text": "something big is going to happen. We'll"}, {"start": "00:29:38", "end": "00:29:42", "text": "see about that. But right now, we're"}, {"start": "00:29:40", "end": "00:29:45", "text": "looking at a video and I'm not seeing"}, {"start": "00:29:42", "end": "00:29:46", "text": "the UFO, guys."}, {"start": "00:29:45", "end": "00:29:50", "text": "Sometimes they just kind of let it roll"}, {"start": "00:29:46", "end": "00:29:51", "text": "a little too long. I'm not sure. Did it"}, {"start": "00:29:50", "end": "00:29:54", "text": "land over there? I don't know why"}, {"start": "00:29:51", "end": "00:29:58", "text": "they're just kind of focusing uh down on"}, {"start": "00:29:54", "end": "00:30:01", "text": "this landscape. They tracked the black"}, {"start": "00:29:58", "end": "00:30:03", "text": "UFO, black dot for a little bit, but now"}, {"start": "00:30:01", "end": "00:30:08", "text": "um"}, {"start": "00:30:03", "end": "00:30:08", "text": "it seems to have evaded the camera."}, {"start": "00:30:11", "end": "00:30:14", "text": "They can't find it anymore."}, {"start": "00:30:17", "end": "00:30:21", "text": "Interesting landscape though. Where is"}, {"start": "00:30:19", "end": "00:30:24", "text": "it? What part of the world is this? I'm"}, {"start": "00:30:21", "end": "00:30:24", "text": "wondering."}, {"start": "00:30:24", "end": "00:30:29", "text": "Okay,"}, {"start": "00:30:26", "end": "00:30:33", "text": "we got another video just coming in."}, {"start": "00:30:29", "end": "00:30:33", "text": "Let's take a look at this one."}, {"start": "00:30:49", "end": "00:30:56", "text": "Kind of a a shot over a countryside."}, {"start": "00:30:52", "end": "00:30:59", "text": "Some farmland. And we got the trees,"}, {"start": "00:30:56", "end": "00:30:59", "text": "open planes."}, {"start": "00:31:00", "end": "00:31:06", "text": "Cameras seems to be searching around for"}, {"start": "00:31:02", "end": "00:31:08", "text": "something, but I'm not seeing anything"}, {"start": "00:31:06", "end": "00:31:10", "text": "with regards to the phenomenon. Let's"}, {"start": "00:31:08", "end": "00:31:13", "text": "see if they could manage to focus in on"}, {"start": "00:31:10", "end": "00:31:15", "text": "something. Let's see what's this video."}, {"start": "00:31:13", "end": "00:31:16", "text": "I'm still curious. Some of these videos,"}, {"start": "00:31:15", "end": "00:31:20", "text": "I'm not exactly sure why that they're"}, {"start": "00:31:16", "end": "00:31:23", "text": "even releasing it because uh"}, {"start": "00:31:20", "end": "00:31:25", "text": "I'm not seeing any action here."}, {"start": "00:31:23", "end": "00:31:28", "text": "Maybe something's going to come up."}, {"start": "00:31:25", "end": "00:31:28", "text": "Let's just wait."}, {"start": "00:31:40", "end": "00:31:44", "text": "Okay, we pretty much just got a gray"}, {"start": "00:31:42", "end": "00:31:47", "text": "screen right now. Are they going to open"}, {"start": "00:31:44", "end": "00:31:51", "text": "up the iris? Are we going to see any"}, {"start": "00:31:47", "end": "00:31:51", "text": "more imagery from this video?"}, {"start": "00:31:57", "end": "00:32:02", "text": "All right, now we're back in focus again"}, {"start": "00:31:59", "end": "00:32:05", "text": "over the farmland"}, {"start": "00:32:02", "end": "00:32:08", "text": "survey sur they're the camera is"}, {"start": "00:32:05", "end": "00:32:09", "text": "surveying the area."}, {"start": "00:32:08", "end": "00:32:12", "text": "What are they looking for? I don't see"}, {"start": "00:32:09", "end": "00:32:12", "text": "anything."}, {"start": "00:32:33", "end": "00:32:39", "text": "again. Sometimes I wonder what"}, {"start": "00:32:37", "end": "00:32:41", "text": "what was the initial purpose of flying"}, {"start": "00:32:39", "end": "00:32:44", "text": "this mission in this particular area of"}, {"start": "00:32:41", "end": "00:32:49", "text": "the world. Okay, here we go. There."}, {"start": "00:32:44", "end": "00:32:51", "text": "There it is. Man,"}, {"start": "00:32:49", "end": "00:32:52", "text": "the operator had a pretty good eye to"}, {"start": "00:32:51", "end": "00:32:56", "text": "pick up on this small thing. But there"}, {"start": "00:32:52", "end": "00:32:57", "text": "it is traversing"}, {"start": "00:32:56", "end": "00:32:59", "text": "pretty quickly at a high rate of speed"}, {"start": "00:32:57", "end": "00:33:02", "text": "over the farmland there. You see it, the"}, {"start": "00:32:59", "end": "00:33:04", "text": "white orb. You can kind of contrast with"}, {"start": "00:33:02", "end": "00:33:07", "text": "the black background right there. I"}, {"start": "00:33:04", "end": "00:33:09", "text": "think this is captured in Fleer. There's"}, {"start": "00:33:07", "end": "00:33:10", "text": "not any color videos. They're all kind"}, {"start": "00:33:09", "end": "00:33:13", "text": "of like captured in black and white"}, {"start": "00:33:10", "end": "00:33:16", "text": "fleer footage,"}, {"start": "00:33:13", "end": "00:33:19", "text": "but there there it is once again, the"}, {"start": "00:33:16", "end": "00:33:24", "text": "anomalous orb just"}, {"start": "00:33:19", "end": "00:33:26", "text": "on a path to who knows where, but"}, {"start": "00:33:24", "end": "00:33:30", "text": "try to zoom in up on it and kind of lost"}, {"start": "00:33:26", "end": "00:33:34", "text": "it. It's kind of hard to"}, {"start": "00:33:30", "end": "00:33:37", "text": "capture these things in real time,"}, {"start": "00:33:34", "end": "00:33:37", "text": "these fast movers."}, {"start": "00:33:38", "end": "00:33:42", "text": "He kind of lost it again."}, {"start": "00:33:56", "end": "00:34:01", "text": "Wonder if anybody on the ground managed"}, {"start": "00:33:58", "end": "00:34:04", "text": "to uh see the object. if there's any"}, {"start": "00:34:01", "end": "00:34:09", "text": "footage from civilians in the farm lands"}, {"start": "00:34:04", "end": "00:34:10", "text": "down there. If they manage to see that,"}, {"start": "00:34:09", "end": "00:34:13", "text": "but it seems like they're trying to lock"}, {"start": "00:34:10", "end": "00:34:15", "text": "in on it again. I think they uh lost"}, {"start": "00:34:13", "end": "00:34:17", "text": "sight of it."}, {"start": "00:34:15", "end": "00:34:20", "text": "Wow, they really pulled back now. Look"}, {"start": "00:34:17", "end": "00:34:20", "text": "how high up they are."}, {"start": "00:34:21", "end": "00:34:26", "text": "These cameras are pretty awesome. Look,"}, {"start": "00:34:23", "end": "00:34:28", "text": "that's pretty crazy that they're at that"}, {"start": "00:34:26", "end": "00:34:30", "text": "probably about maybe 10,000 ft in"}, {"start": "00:34:28", "end": "00:34:33", "text": "altitude and they're able to zoom in to"}, {"start": "00:34:30", "end": "00:34:37", "text": "the ground level like that and track in"}, {"start": "00:34:33", "end": "00:34:40", "text": "on these these anomalous objects. And"}, {"start": "00:34:37", "end": "00:34:43", "text": "that's why you see these black squares"}, {"start": "00:34:40", "end": "00:34:46", "text": "redacting the information and the"}, {"start": "00:34:43", "end": "00:34:48", "text": "metadata"}, {"start": "00:34:46", "end": "00:34:50", "text": "and how they actually uh operate some of"}, {"start": "00:34:48", "end": "00:34:52", "text": "these systems. That's classified still"}, {"start": "00:34:50", "end": "00:34:54", "text": "to this day. That's why they're blacking"}, {"start": "00:34:52", "end": "00:34:59", "text": "that out. They they don't want you to"}, {"start": "00:34:54", "end": "00:34:59", "text": "exactly know their sensors, locations,"}, {"start": "00:35:00", "end": "00:35:05", "text": "but they are trying to show us some"}, {"start": "00:35:02", "end": "00:35:08", "text": "UFOs. Unfortunately, that one was just a"}, {"start": "00:35:05", "end": "00:35:11", "text": "that was a quick just an orb. Once"}, {"start": "00:35:08", "end": "00:35:13", "text": "again, kind of underwhelming, but hey,"}, {"start": "00:35:11", "end": "00:35:16", "text": "you know, beggars can't be choosers. At"}, {"start": "00:35:13", "end": "00:35:18", "text": "least uh the government's dropping"}, {"start": "00:35:16", "end": "00:35:20", "text": "UFO videos for the first time in"}, {"start": "00:35:18", "end": "00:35:23", "text": "history."}, {"start": "00:35:20", "end": "00:35:25", "text": "We're in a paradigm shift right now. I"}, {"start": "00:35:23", "end": "00:35:28", "text": "think 2026."}, {"start": "00:35:25", "end": "00:35:30", "text": "It's basically it basically is the year"}, {"start": "00:35:28", "end": "00:35:34", "text": "of disclosure. Here we go. One. And we"}, {"start": "00:35:30", "end": "00:35:34", "text": "got another video here."}, {"start": "00:35:35", "end": "00:35:39", "text": "Looks like maybe somewhere in the Middle"}, {"start": "00:35:36", "end": "00:35:41", "text": "East."}, {"start": "00:35:39", "end": "00:35:43", "text": "Here we go. An object comes in from"}, {"start": "00:35:41", "end": "00:35:45", "text": "right to left. They're kind of tracking"}, {"start": "00:35:43", "end": "00:35:47", "text": "it. They're going, \"What the heck is"}, {"start": "00:35:45", "end": "00:35:50", "text": "that?\" Now, let's Come on. Zoom in on"}, {"start": "00:35:47", "end": "00:35:50", "text": "this thing."}, {"start": "00:35:57", "end": "00:36:01", "text": "There you go."}, {"start": "00:36:01", "end": "00:36:06", "text": "A perfect sphere. A black sphere."}, {"start": "00:36:07", "end": "00:36:12", "text": "A flying disc possibly"}, {"start": "00:36:10", "end": "00:36:14", "text": "from the top looking down could look"}, {"start": "00:36:12", "end": "00:36:17", "text": "like a disc. A sphere. Brent, what do"}, {"start": "00:36:14", "end": "00:36:17", "text": "you make of this?"}, {"start": "00:36:17", "end": "00:36:21", "text": "Yeah, there you go. He's actually got a"}, {"start": "00:36:19", "end": "00:36:24", "text": "better look here. He's using all the"}, {"start": "00:36:21", "end": "00:36:27", "text": "lenses that they're capable capable of"}, {"start": "00:36:24", "end": "00:36:29", "text": "on these drones. I think he's pulling in"}, {"start": "00:36:27", "end": "00:36:31", "text": "all the way he can right there. 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Oh, look at how"}, {"start": "00:37:14", "end": "00:37:19", "text": "they're really getting close up on it"}, {"start": "00:37:16", "end": "00:37:19", "text": "now."}, {"start": "00:37:26", "end": "00:37:31", "text": "Sometimes I wonder if these objects are"}, {"start": "00:37:28", "end": "00:37:33", "text": "aware that they're being filmed by these"}, {"start": "00:37:31", "end": "00:37:36", "text": "drones or military personnel that"}, {"start": "00:37:33", "end": "00:37:38", "text": "they're they know they're being watched"}, {"start": "00:37:36", "end": "00:37:42", "text": "and they might want to be seen or it's"}, {"start": "00:37:38", "end": "00:37:44", "text": "almost maybe like a paparazzi shot where"}, {"start": "00:37:42", "end": "00:37:47", "text": "they don't even know what's going on. I"}, {"start": "00:37:44", "end": "00:37:49", "text": "don't know. You got these big lenses"}, {"start": "00:37:47", "end": "00:37:51", "text": "zooming in on the objects and there the"}, {"start": "00:37:49", "end": "00:37:54", "text": "these other worldly objects are unaware"}, {"start": "00:37:51", "end": "00:37:57", "text": "of them unaware that they're being"}, {"start": "00:37:54", "end": "00:37:57", "text": "filmed."}, {"start": "00:37:58", "end": "00:38:02", "text": "Is this the same video?"}, {"start": "00:38:00", "end": "00:38:04", "text": "Yeah, it's the same video. Now they're"}, {"start": "00:38:02", "end": "00:38:06", "text": "tracking it again. At first it was kind"}, {"start": "00:38:04", "end": "00:38:09", "text": "of"}, {"start": "00:38:06", "end": "00:38:13", "text": "dark and now it's litting up more"}, {"start": "00:38:09", "end": "00:38:13", "text": "luminance to it."}, {"start": "00:38:21", "end": "00:38:28", "text": "kind of uh accelerating up in up into"}, {"start": "00:38:24", "end": "00:38:31", "text": "the clouds here."}, {"start": "00:38:28", "end": "00:38:35", "text": "Say approximately four to maybe 6,000 ft"}, {"start": "00:38:31", "end": "00:38:35", "text": "in altitude."}, {"start": "00:38:49", "end": "00:38:55", "text": "Interesting uh video here. Is this in"}, {"start": "00:38:52", "end": "00:38:58", "text": "color?"}, {"start": "00:38:55", "end": "00:39:00", "text": "Did they trans Did they just switch uh"}, {"start": "00:38:58", "end": "00:39:03", "text": "to color mode right here out of the"}, {"start": "00:39:00", "end": "00:39:05", "text": "fleer mode? Kind of seems like there's"}, {"start": "00:39:03", "end": "00:39:07", "text": "blue skies here."}, {"start": "00:39:05", "end": "00:39:10", "text": "They're trying to focus in on it. It's a"}, {"start": "00:39:07", "end": "00:39:12", "text": "little fuzzy now. I think they got to"}, {"start": "00:39:10", "end": "00:39:15", "text": "refocus their lens, but you could kind"}, {"start": "00:39:12", "end": "00:39:18", "text": "of see the object. It's kind of like a"}, {"start": "00:39:15", "end": "00:39:22", "text": "smudge right now,"}, {"start": "00:39:18", "end": "00:39:24", "text": "but it's just left of the"}, {"start": "00:39:22", "end": "00:39:27", "text": "crosshairs there. Oh, they switched it"}, {"start": "00:39:24", "end": "00:39:29", "text": "back to fleer now. You could kind of see"}, {"start": "00:39:27", "end": "00:39:31", "text": "it a little better."}, {"start": "00:39:29", "end": "00:39:35", "text": "I guess there was some color video that"}, {"start": "00:39:31", "end": "00:39:35", "text": "they dropped today. That's interesting."}, {"start": "00:39:50", "end": "00:39:56", "text": "UFO hunting military style. Not bad."}, {"start": "00:39:53", "end": "00:39:59", "text": "It's kind of exciting."}, {"start": "00:39:56", "end": "00:40:00", "text": "I'm sure this again is just the tip of"}, {"start": "00:39:59", "end": "00:40:03", "text": "the iceberg of what they got. We want to"}, {"start": "00:40:00", "end": "00:40:06", "text": "see some kind of smoking gun. Here we"}, {"start": "00:40:03", "end": "00:40:10", "text": "go. Color video. Wow, this is"}, {"start": "00:40:06", "end": "00:40:10", "text": "back to uh back to Fleer."}, {"start": "00:40:11", "end": "00:40:16", "text": "A transparent UFO. It looks like it has"}, {"start": "00:40:14", "end": "00:40:18", "text": "like a tether underneath it. It splits"}, {"start": "00:40:16", "end": "00:40:20", "text": "into two"}, {"start": "00:40:18", "end": "00:40:23", "text": "and then into one again. And this like a"}, {"start": "00:40:20", "end": "00:40:23", "text": "tether."}, {"start": "00:40:24", "end": "00:40:27", "text": "Guys, we want to get your thoughts in"}, {"start": "00:40:26", "end": "00:40:30", "text": "with the drops today coming in from"}, {"start": "00:40:27", "end": "00:40:32", "text": "around the world. The UFO videos,"}, {"start": "00:40:30", "end": "00:40:34", "text": "aliens.gov, gov. They're they're"}, {"start": "00:40:32", "end": "00:40:37", "text": "bringing it. As the president said, he"}, {"start": "00:40:34", "end": "00:40:39", "text": "was going to do it. Now, we want to let"}, {"start": "00:40:37", "end": "00:40:41", "text": "you know, battle for disclosure. It's"}, {"start": "00:40:39", "end": "00:40:44", "text": "free right now on YouTube movies."}, {"start": "00:40:41", "end": "00:40:47", "text": ">> You don't know that at the very top that"}, {"start": "00:40:44", "end": "00:40:49", "text": "whole project is being run illegally."}, {"start": "00:40:47", "end": "00:40:51", "text": ">> These are brand new witnesses and"}, {"start": "00:40:49", "end": "00:40:54", "text": "they've got bombshell information to"}, {"start": "00:40:51", "end": "00:40:54", "text": "talk about."}, {"start": "00:40:58", "end": "00:41:04", "text": "These technologies are unsanctioned."}, {"start": "00:41:01", "end": "00:41:08", "text": "They are illegal operations. And this"}, {"start": "00:41:04", "end": "00:41:10", "text": "can be proven in any court of law. It's"}, {"start": "00:41:08", "end": "00:41:11", "text": "like, \"Wow, nobody's coming after us."}, {"start": "00:41:10", "end": "00:41:14", "text": "We're going to do this until we can get"}, {"start": "00:41:11", "end": "00:41:15", "text": "away with it."}, {"start": "00:41:14", "end": "00:41:18", "text": "They would have so much control over"}, {"start": "00:41:15", "end": "00:41:20", "text": "everything if they had that."}, {"start": "00:41:18", "end": "00:41:24", "text": "If this information was all released, it"}, {"start": "00:41:20", "end": "00:41:26", "text": "could fall into the wrong hands."}, {"start": "00:41:24", "end": "00:41:29", "text": "They're using security as a cover for"}, {"start": "00:41:26", "end": "00:41:30", "text": "illicit or legal or even treasonous"}, {"start": "00:41:29", "end": "00:41:32", "text": "activities."}, {"start": "00:41:30", "end": "00:41:34", "text": ">> The members of Congress didn't have the"}, {"start": "00:41:32", "end": "00:41:35", "text": "detailed information of the precise"}, {"start": "00:41:34", "end": "00:41:37", "text": "location"}, {"start": "00:41:35", "end": "00:41:39", "text": ">> where they keep the bodies, the craft,"}, {"start": "00:41:37", "end": "00:41:42", "text": "the debris, all the evidence that we've"}, {"start": "00:41:39", "end": "00:41:44", "text": "been searching for the last 80 years."}, {"start": "00:41:42", "end": "00:41:45", "text": ">> He knew how to keep a secret. Secrets"}, {"start": "00:41:44", "end": "00:41:47", "text": "were his stock and trade."}, {"start": "00:41:45", "end": "00:41:49", "text": ">> They are literally making their own"}, {"start": "00:41:47", "end": "00:41:51", "text": "money to fund their own projects. We"}, {"start": "00:41:49", "end": "00:41:52", "text": "have a source currently in the deep"}, {"start": "00:41:51", "end": "00:41:54", "text": "black world."}, {"start": "00:41:52", "end": "00:41:55", "text": ">> It doesn't matter if you're president of"}, {"start": "00:41:54", "end": "00:41:57", "text": "the United States, you're not going to"}, {"start": "00:41:55", "end": "00:41:59", "text": "talk about that."}, {"start": "00:41:57", "end": "00:42:02", "text": ">> It was a large monolithic slab. Looked"}, {"start": "00:41:59", "end": "00:42:04", "text": "like it was elevated off of the ground."}, {"start": "00:42:02", "end": "00:42:05", "text": ">> It is traumatic. Look, this is the most"}, {"start": "00:42:04", "end": "00:42:07", "text": "top secret."}, {"start": "00:42:05", "end": "00:42:11", "text": ">> The number one documentary, Battle for"}, {"start": "00:42:07", "end": "00:42:15", "text": "Disclosure, now available for free on"}, {"start": "00:42:11", "end": "00:42:17", "text": "YouTube movies. Watch now. Link below in"}, {"start": "00:42:15", "end": "00:42:19", "text": "description."}, {"start": "00:42:17", "end": "00:42:20", "text": "We want to thank everybody from around"}, {"start": "00:42:19", "end": "00:42:22", "text": "the world who joined us right here at"}, {"start": "00:42:20", "end": "00:42:25", "text": "Third Phase of Moon. Make sure to watch"}, {"start": "00:42:22", "end": "00:42:28", "text": "Battle for Disclosure. 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There it is."}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "430,000"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "people saw it at the time. So now"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "they're scrubbing it. I don't know what"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "they're trying to hide from us, but what"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "is going on is the big question. And let"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "me tell you, the internet is blowing up"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "with regards to the mystery. But we"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "wanted to let everybody know right here"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "at Thirdphase Moon once again, we've got"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "your back. Our channel's still up and"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "the imagery is still up. We're going to"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "be going over the discovery 6 years ago"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "and show you the original post in just a"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "second here, but look, it's gone."}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "Something is happening. They don't want"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "you to know the truth with with regards"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "to this video. Now, with that being"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "said, here is the original post we did."}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "Welcome back everybody from around the"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "world. Uh we've got some information"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "coming in via Google Earth and some of"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "our friends out there says we need to"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "check out something along the coast of"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "Antarctica and it's observed on the"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "Green Witch Islands. And we're going to"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "take a closer look right now. Uh welcome"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "everybody from around the world. If you"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "haven't seen this, uh, get ready cuz"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "you're going about to see something that"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "is quite amazing. Is there an entrance"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "to a hollow earth that has been exposed"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "right here at Google Maps? Well, right"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "now we're looking at some of the"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "imagery. And we're not seeing anything"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "at the moment, but right here is uh"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "where we need to think about if there is"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "some kind of entry. And it may have been"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "covered up because this image is coming"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "in from 2016. Here we go. the depression"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "in the snow. And uh this is about to get"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "quite strange indeed when we look at the"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "photos from Google satellites from 2010."}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "We're moving on down the chain, but this"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "is where it gets quite insane. Look at"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "this. Uh we have a massive entry uh into"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "the side of this ice cliff. But is this"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "a possible entrance into hollow earth?"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "That's what's being speculated on the"}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "internet right now. Look at this. Uh, it"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "is massive. Brett, I want to get your"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "thoughts. What are we looking at right"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "here? Yeah, Blake, comparing the images"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "from what was it, 2017 and what what"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "we're looking at here."}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:27", "text": ">> Well, there's the image to 2010 and uh"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "yeah, back to 2017."}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "And here, let's uh we're moving the dial"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "and just in a matter of a few months"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "from the first January 18, 2007 is this"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "image. And then you just go back uh a"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "little bit less than a half a year to"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "2006 and uh this doesn't even exist. Uh"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "what's going on? Yeah, it's totally"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "covered up. Is this a natural event?"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "some sort of snow slide that covered"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "this cave, this entrance of what we're"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "looking at here. I find it kind of"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "interesting looking at the colors and"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "the dynamics around this entrance. It"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "seems to be disturbed. Maybe something"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "lifting the ground up, exposing some of"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "the dirt, maybe rocky terrain around the"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "area."}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "Is this an entrance way, Blake? Well, it"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "definitely seems as people are"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "speculating. Look at the sides of this"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "thing here. Here are the waves along the"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "coast and then uh right here it almost"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "seems like it's a a staircase, an entry"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "in to this huge"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "entry uh on the side of the cliff here."}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "Is this something that uh is being"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "talked about around the world about"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "hollow earth and uh entries into the"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "Antarctic where you could actually enter"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "bases uh ancient civilizations from long"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "ago? Yeah, Blake, take a look at those"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "steps. They They look like they're made"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "for a giant. They're huge. If we could"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "get a calculation, maybe grab some um"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:03", "text": "measurements of this entrance, that'd be"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "pretty cool. Let's pull that out."}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:07", "text": ">> Let's see what we can do here. Uh we got"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "the ruler out and then uh we're going to"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "get it from the very top. I would say"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "this would be the bottom about here."}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "Look at that. It's about uh 274"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "ft from top to bottom. Let's see about"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "from uh the width of this here. Let's uh"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "bring it in. Get our mark. And then the"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "width of this is about 249 ft. So yeah,"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "look at that. It's the length of a"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "football field. This thing's huge. It"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "could fit hundreds if not thousands of"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:41", "text": "people walking in at one time into this"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "hollow entrance."}, {"start": "00:05:41", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "And then the staircase is what uh is"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "interesting to me because again, let's"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "just pull back and go back in time here."}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "uh you see some kind of impression like"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "it was almost purposely uh covered up so"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "we can't see this entry. Let's pull it"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "back to um let's see how far does this"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "Google satellite image go back to. It's"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "about 1999 and uh obviously the clarity"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "isn't as good as it is uh nowadays. But"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "we're going to pull it back up to 2004."}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "Again, not much evidence of uh this"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "entryway, but then as the satellite"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "imagery gets better throughout the"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "years, we're beginning to see some"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "applications here."}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:27", "text": ">> And just look at that. Could this be a"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "possible cover, a camouflage, maybe like"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "how Navy Seals use ghillie suits and"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "they do have snow covered camouflage as"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "well. Could this just be a blanket? I"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "notice the color around it really"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "doesn't match the other snow. You can"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "see there's a a slight slightly"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "different color happening around that"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "entrance. Yeah. A little brownish hue of"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "color. Is this the mountain side that's"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "being exposed or something else? It's"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "it's interesting. But then the"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "photograph from 2007 is well let's see"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "2006"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "and then just less than a half a year"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "this thing is exposed. Could climate"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "change or some sort of heating around"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "the Earth be melting the ice around and"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "unveiling secrets? What's interesting is"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "is it it stands out on its own on off"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "the coast there. There's no other"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "indications of what would you say sink"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "holes being exposed here except this"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "area. And then when you bring it up to"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "2010 again, it's uh just totally covered"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "up. And the the amount of change in the"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "environment of over just a few years is"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "remarkable to behold. A football-sized"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "cavern an entry into hollow earth"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "possibly expose and then bam. Look at"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "that. It's such a huge contrast of what"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "happens within months around this uh"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "peculiar area, the south islands of"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "Antarctica."}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "Yeah, I'm just changing up the dates. We"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "got two images from it. Uh it seemed"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "like they wanted to get some good looks"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "at this. Let's see. Let's just We got"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "There it is. This is um it's hu it's big"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "enough for spacecraft, flying saucers,"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "any assets in our military to easily fly"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "into this massive opening."}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:26", "text": ">> It sure would be interesting u if it"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "were in 2007."}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "This is images from quite a long time"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "ago, almost 11 going on 12 years here."}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "And uh I'm surprised nobody went to this"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "place. Some kind of mission to the area"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "to actually find out exactly where this"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "entry led to. If it exactly possibly"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "went in deeper than what we're looking"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "at right now, because it definitely you"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "can see the dark shadows. It it seems"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "that wherever this leads, it it it's"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "deep. It it goes in quite a way. All I"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "got to say is the conspiracy theorists"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "around the world are going to be talking"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "about this because right now I think"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "it's the first time we're looking at it"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "on um YouTube in regards to this"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:11", "text": "evidence and I want to get your opinions"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "people from around the world. What do"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "you think this anomaly is that was"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "exposed in 2007? Is this is this some"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "kind of simple landslide that exposed a"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "cave? Or is this something uh man-made,"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "a some kind of base, an entry into a"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "hollow earth in Antarctica? Uh I'm not"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "exactly sure, but the evidence is"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "astounding right here that what we're"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "looking at definitely once existed a"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "football-sized entry into a cavern."}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "Where it leads, we don't know. But this"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "is the image we have now from 2010. We"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "haven't got any updates from a Google"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "uh Googler to see if it has been"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "updated. Any other satellite imagery"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "could possibly expose this? I'm"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "wondering if it's exposed again now."}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "Yeah, it's a good question, Blake. I'm"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "I'm leaning towards this being covered"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "up uh some sort of shielding, a blanket,"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "a camouflage to hide this entrance, and"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "they gave it away in 2007 and it's been"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "been exposed. So, we need to get there."}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "Somebody needs to get there and and pull"}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "the veil over this cave and start"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "walking in. See where it goes. You need"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "some construction equipment to uh lift"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "the snow up so we could expose what's"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "underneath it because as of uh 2015, the"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "latest image, this is what we got right"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "now. So, uh it would take a major"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "excavation unless again it was a facade"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "created to hide this entrance. And maybe"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "it's not as difficult as we all might"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "think. And again, who knows what is"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "going on over the past few years from"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "2015 to uh going on to 2020. I I got a"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "feeling it is exposed and we're probably"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "back to this scenario. Maybe uh the"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "entry has even gotten larger in uh in"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "its time. Uh well, the big question is"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "what exactly was discovered here uh on"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "these islands and where does this uh"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "entry lead? That's what we want to find"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "out. All right, there it is. the"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "original post we did six years ago and"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "now for some reason Google got it in"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "their mind to scrub scrub it from the"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "internet. We're going to be supplying"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "the original coordinates if you want to"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "go take a look yourself. Uh what we"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "posted 6 years ago is not there anymore"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "for some reason as we did uh some"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "investigation just moments ago. We're"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "looking over uh the exact coordinates"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "that we had 6 years ago and we're"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "looking at it now as we scrub through"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "the dates uh through the history of the"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "imagery captured by the satellites and"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "we're not seeing any evidence"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "the evidence has been hidden from you"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "guys. And let me tell you, I don't know."}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "Do you think uh we all should be asking"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "the big question or is this just"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "something mundane? I don't think so. I"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "want to hear your thoughts. Do you think"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "it's a cover up? Let us know and share"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "this link to your friends and uh tell"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "them, man, something something strange"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "is going on. But like I said, Third"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "Phase Moon, we've got your back. And"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "then another situation not too long ago,"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "we posted"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "this. It was approximately 15 years ago"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "of the imagery of the underwater"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "possible water base off the coast of"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "Malibu."}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "But then just, you know, in recent"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "times, Google did it again. For some"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "reason, they're scrubbing this crystal"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "clearar footage, and we're going to show"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "you what it looks like in this report."}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "Watch. We've got this, and I spoke about"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "it on Thirdphase Moon that you're going"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "to see it right now. Google Earth has"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "been showing us images captured by"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "satellites for many years now. And we at"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "Thirdphase Moon has been giving you the"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "discoveries that people have found"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "around the world in regards to mega"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "structures. and take a look at what's"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "been going on. Now, remember we showed"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "you this many years ago. The underwater"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "base next to Malibu off the coast"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "underneath the Pacific Ocean lies"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "something mega, something unexplained."}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "But now Google is trying to hide this"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "from us apparently because right now if"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "you look at it and go to Google Earth,"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "it shows that it's blurry."}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "The detail is totally lost and there is"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "nothing to compare to what we have shown"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "you in the past that it's going on now."}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "Why are they doing this? Is the"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "information too hot to handle or is"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "there some kind of suppression of"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "information going on around the"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "internet? It's hard to say. But what I"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "can tell you is as of right now, if you"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "look on Google Earth, the image is"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "totally blurred out. And if you look at"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "the detail that we once brought you,"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "this mega structure is massive and the"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "detail was incredible."}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "The reasoning behind this recent"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "scrubbed image is unknown, but it's very"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "disconcerning on why they're doing this."}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "And it really makes no sense to me"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "unless they're trying to hide something."}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "It's the only reasonable explanation. So"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "there it is, the crystal clear footage"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "that we posted on third phase of moon"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "approximately uh 12 15 years ago,"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "something like that. We could find the"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "original link. Uh beautiful imagery. It"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "makes you wonder what really is going on"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "there. Look at these crystal clear"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "shots. But now the latest image, it's"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "you don't see any detail whatsoever."}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "Brent, what's your thoughts on this? Why"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "are they doing this all of a sudden?"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "Yeah, it's not by accident. I can tell"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "you that. whatever's going on, this is"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "they have purpose. They they have a"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "reason for for burning these images out"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "now. It's erased from history forever."}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "You know what the best part is? Like you"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "said, like just we have it in recording"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "uh in the archives and that that's the"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "best part with detail and and"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "investigative uh you know, we're we're"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "looking at it closely and getting all"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "these multi- angles, not just one that's"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "kind of floating out there. Now, we go"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "into heavy detail of uh these Google"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "maps, but for them to erase it now, now"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "we know they're up to something. But"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "well, they're busted again. Blake,"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "guys, it's really important that"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "information"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "and detailed information is disseminated"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "as best as possible, especially in this"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "field. And that's what we're trying to"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "do right here at Third Phase Moon. We're"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "trying our best to get you the"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "information as fast as possible. And if"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "there's some mixups here and there,"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "we're going to let you know. But in this"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "case, there is no mixup. Google scrubbed"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "these images. We showed you the"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "timestamps and the dates that we put"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "these videos up, the the evidence from"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "Google Earth and Google Maps. But now"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "it's a race from history."}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "Guys, there's something going on. We"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "want to get your thoughts. Let us know."}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "Everybody, keep your eyes on the skies."}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "And if you captured anything amazing out"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "there, submit it to us right here at"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "Thirdphase Moon. My email is in the"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "description below along with my brother"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "Brent. This is Blake Cousins. Keep your"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "eyes on the skies, everybody."}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "We're not alone."}]

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Where are you"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "calling in from, sir?"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "Uh, calling from Houston."}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "All right, man. You got something you"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "want to share with the world tonight?"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "What do you got?"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "Yeah. So, I was um driving home after"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "taking the family out to eat and it was"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "a late dinner like on a Wednesday."}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "Happened about a couple weeks ago, but"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "um so, uh I was we were heading home in"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "the car, you know, I'm coming down the"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "boulevard"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "and uh then you know, we see a"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "a uh"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "it was strange. 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Third phase."}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "Hey, how's it going?"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "Hey,"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "going good, man."}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "Right. You got something you want to"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "share tonight?"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "Yes, I do. Um, I just sent you a email"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "uh through your Facebook. I uh recorded"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "a UFO. It's not very good footage. 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Let's get to another caller."}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "401, you're live. Third phase moon,"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "welcome to the show."}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "401 dropped out. Let's go to 863,"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "you're live."}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "Where are you calling in from?"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "I'm calling in from uh Lakeland,"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "Florida."}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "Welcome to the show. You got a story you"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "want to share tonight? Go ahead."}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "Yeah, man. Um, you know, I was just"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "listening to uh the guy from um San"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "Francisco talk about when he was in Las"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "Vegas and um I was thinking about it"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "because you know I I called in before"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "and was talking about you know my uncle"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "who you know he retired from the Air"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "Force but he still works at the Air"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "Force base and"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "you know the things that he's seen"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "already. is like he's he's one he's numb"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "to a lot of the UFO talks because he"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "knows I know my aunt, she just retired"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "from the Pentagon three years ago. You"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "know, it's like we're numb to it because"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "we know that it's out there. 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And I think that they're going"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "to either be preparing us for it or it's"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "going to happen on a day where"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "they they can't deny that this is the"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "UFO that you know, you know, that that"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "appeared or or it's going to be on a you"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "know, maybe the presidency when it"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "changes hands, you know, she'll, you"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "know, Hillary or thank God if Hillary"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "wins, but if Trump wins or Hillary"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "whatever, you know, they'll be at their"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "uh, you know, doing their speech and"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "then like a UFO would just pop up or"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "something and it's like, you know, it's"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "going to be something that's going to"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "happen like that that's going to be"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "undeniable"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "of what it is there. 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So, it's kind of"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "like there"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "as far as"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "as far as 911 goes."}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "Yeah, she was there. as far as as far as"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "not goes"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "that there's a lot of tom foolery going"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "on because the thing is one thing she"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "did tell us I'm not going to give her"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "name because I don't want to get in"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "trouble but the thing is one thing she"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "did tell us is is that it looked more"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "like a missile attack"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "than a plane hitting the Pentagon."}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "Yeah. And one thing that she said as"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "well as with the the twin tower, she"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "said that"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "one of the planes,"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "it looked like one of our cargo planes"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "that I guess we send over packages or or"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "uh you know, rations over to the, you"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "know, overseas."}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "It say look more like a painted cargo"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "plane."}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "Did you have any insight? What about"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "alien intervention or alien contact? any"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "insight from her on that?"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "The only thing that was said as far as,"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "you know, UFO uh you eupfology goes was"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "the fact that they know that there's,"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "you know, there's other races of aliens"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "out there. They haven't seen them, but"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "they know that as far as the UFOs go,"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "you know, my my uncle, which is my dad's"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "twin brother, he saw it firsthand. He"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "saw them firsthand as far as the craft"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "goes, seeing the paperwork on them"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "because they actually have to deliver"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "this stuff. like they're not actually"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "flying these things around when they,"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "you know, either they down some of them"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "or some of them might just activate"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "after years of already being here cuz"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "there was one case where I guess he said"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "it was already here and I don't know if"}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "it crashed like a hundred years ago or"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "something like I can't remember the"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "timeline on that but he said just just"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "activated one day and they wrapped it up"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "because they didn't know if it was a"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "bomb or what it was, but just activated"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "one day and they had to they they didn't"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "fly it, you know, to I think it was like"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "Ohio or something like that. I don't"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "know the significance behind all of"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "that, but they drove it to Ohio."}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "So,"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "it's one of those things where it's like"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "as far as the craft goes, oh, they'll"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "tell you like if right now, if I was,"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "you know, if they were here with me"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "right now, they would tell you right off"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "the bat like, \"Hey, they're real. Ain't"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "nothing we can do about it. They're"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "already here."}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "That we can do.\""}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "But it's like talking about"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "Yes. Yes. you know, the information that"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "you're sharing right now from your uh"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "uncle, your your father's twin brother,"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "that's super cool. You know, you get"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "them on the get them on the radio show,"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "invite them on to Third Phase Moon."}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "We've had a lot of whistleblowers lately"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "come out that have worked with Top"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "Secret Clarence, giving us uh you know,"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "information that that that they think"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "that the world should know. So, tell"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "them that. Tell them we're going to be"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "back next week, Friday. Get your uh"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "uncle on. All right."}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "I could. Hey, I'm I'm gonna definitely"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "try"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "now. I appreciate you taking"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "Thank you. Thank you, sir. Thank you,"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "man. Do it because we got to get"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "disclosure out. We got to get it out"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "now. Erica code 561, you're live. Third"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "phase moon, welcome to the show."}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "Oh, hello."}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "Is that area code 585? Hello. Eric code"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "585. You there?"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "Yeah. Hi. Yeah. How you do, Blake? It's"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "me, Jose again."}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "Hey, Jose. How's it going?"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "Not much. Hey, so um you ain't have no"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "more um Have you heard any more about"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "Kelly? So, you know,"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "Yeah, that's a that's a good question,"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "Jose. We We're going to be getting Kelly"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "and uh Fred, two whistleblowers"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "that have never spoken before. We're"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "going to try and organize them together"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "on the show. They Fred really thinks"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "that she might know who Kelly is."}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "Both of them uh are going through some"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "procedures and medical things. So,"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "we're trying to get get them on."}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "Hopefully hopefully we can do it and get"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "them"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "spilling information as it was coming in"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "last week. Let me tell you heard over"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "you know a million times on Third Phase"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "of Moon. Kelly and Fred's uh"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "whistleblowing"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "information in regards to reverse"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "engineered technology technology. It's"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "all on YouTube."}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "Thanks for the question, sir. Jose, uh"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "let's go to area code 317. You're live"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "third phase moon. Welcome to the show."}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "Yes. Yeah. Got to remember 317 is"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "people. Okay."}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "We got an anonymous caller on. Anonymous"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "caller. You're making some roughly"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "noise. You there?"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "Yeah, I'm here. Um, hi Blake. How are"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "you?"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "Hey, how's it going? Who's this?"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "This is Sophia."}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "Hey Sophia, how's it going?"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "It's good."}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "Um,"}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "it's good."}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "I listen to your call last calls last"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "week and um a couple things bothered me"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "about Kelly and I really feel like"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "making a comment about it. Is that okay?"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "Sure, no problem. Go ahead."}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "Um"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "she um loosely let let go of Mr."}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "Sheller's name and um he's uh been uh"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "worked for Houston for a long time and"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "for the center and he's very much for"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "uh UFOy"}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "I guess is the b way to put that. He's"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "you know part of muon heaven's sake. Um"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "I know about security clearances and you"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "don't give contractors outside"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "contractors that are not technical a"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "super uh clearance. It just doesn't"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "happen. It takes a long time uh and a"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "lot of um moving through"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "the government and them uh training you"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "and trusting you to get security"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "clearances. And once you get them, you"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "you don't just walk in there and get"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "security clearance. You take the oath."}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "And I don't believe her. She doesn't I"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "don't believe a word she says. Um I have"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "worked for the government. I do have"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "security clearances. um therefore not"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "you know deep or big or anything like"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "that but what they are uh is enough for"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "me what I went through is enough for me"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "to know that there's no way also you"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "don't dubby down"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "um technological information for the"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "public they either understand it or they"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "don't NASA is not in the business of"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "caring whether you understand it or not"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "um neither is the government actually"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "and they prefer if you don't understand"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "it you don't understand it And that's"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "the other thing that bothers me. Um,"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "there are no contracting writers who do"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "that."}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "This I know for a fact and um I'm quite"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "sure that you were aware of who Mr."}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "Shusler was. If you wanted to give him a"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "call and uh talk to him about it, he'd"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "talk to you about that. Exactly. Um I"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "read some of your umam, you know, uh"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "people who write comments in the comment"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "boxes and uh um they were dead on. Most"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "of the people did not believe that she"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "was legit. And uh I just wanted to put"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "my two cents in. That's all."}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "Hey, no problem. Uh Sophia, that's what"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "we do right here at Third Phase Moon."}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "Let people share their opinions, their"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "comments. And you know, Kelly's, you"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "know, when she called in, she she said"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "that she wanted to share something. And"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "you know, that's what we do. We let"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "people share their stories. And"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "immediately there are some people that"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "claimed that they have top secret"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "Clarence and such as yourself, Sophia,"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "that have questioned Kelly's uh story."}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "So, I'm actually reaching out to Kelly"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "to bring her back on the show along with"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "Fred. Fred's not his real name, but he's"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "the one that,"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "you know, blew the whistle on Area 51"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "and Lake Pond and a lot of stuff that he"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "worked on. I'd just like to get you guys"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "all together so you can kind of like"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "cross"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "cross-examine, question each other, see"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "on how things go. You know, you know"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "what? Tell you what,"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "that would be interesting."}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "That would be very interesting. That"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "would be amazing. You know what? Let's"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "uh bring on F1. F1 is"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "he's worked for the Navy. He's had top"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "clearance uh"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "access"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "and he chimed in about Kelly as well"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "last week. and I wanted to get him on."}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "Maybe you maybe he's got a question for"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "you as well. F1, you there?"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "Yeah. Yeah. How how you doing? You know,"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "I'm just kind of snickering and laughing"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "because as you know, you you took my"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "call late in the show after it was"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "almost off the air and I told you what I"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "thought. And it's funny after I said"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "that to you over the phone lines, all"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "these comments came in kind of backing"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "up what I said. And here's another"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "caller backing up what I know and I feel"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "and that's why I called you because I"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "was just calling BS on Kelly."}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "It's kind of interesting."}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "Interesting."}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "Yep. Sure. Definitely. [clears throat]"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "What about Sophia?"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "There were a couple of"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "Go ahead."}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "There were a couple other things that"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "she said um like um words about uh alien"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "types and stuff like that. She got half"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "of it right and half of it wrong. It's"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "like she got a little bit of information"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "and then she didn't follow through with"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:31", "text": "looking uh to see what that really was."}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "And if she was who she said she was, she"}, {"start": "00:18:31", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "would have been able to give you the"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "correct terminology for it in the first"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "place, you know. And um"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "there um there are uh there's no beta"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "aliens. There's nothing with beta in the"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "name anywhere that I'm aware of. And um"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "there are other kinds, but you know, she"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "just threw it out there and I went, \"Oh"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "man, no way. Uh-uh. Not her. It's not"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "real.\""}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "Can you give us some details on what you"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:07", "text": "know that what you could share with us"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "on Third Phase to uh maybe correct, you"}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "know, some of what Kelly was talking"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "about. Give us what you believe is the"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "real deal."}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "There there are grays. There are short"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "grays and tall grays. Um there are um uh"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "I guess uh"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "uh they're like lizardy types and um"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "they aren't exactly friendly. Um uh I"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "think our government is afraid of them."}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "Uh"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "from what I understand, the grays are um"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "uh just uh what's the word I'm looking"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "for? They watch us. They've been around"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "a long time. uh they do have something"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "to do with us. They have their little"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:56", "text": "programs and whatever. Um nobody a lot"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "of people want them to just show up one"}, {"start": "00:19:56", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "day. It's not that it won't happen that"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:04", "text": "way. Um it's uh everything is up to us."}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "I mean, for centuries, every every"}, {"start": "00:20:04", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "people that have been on this earth have"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "all been given the knowledge to know"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "that we make our own decisions about our"}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "own lives. And um you know, we can"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "either kill ourselves or move on. And uh"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "the grays have are are ancient. They've"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:25", "text": "been around that long. Um"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "there are a couple of I've I've heard of"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "a group that they call Plleadenss. Am I"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "saying that right, F1?"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "Um, I know that constellation is the"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "Pletes and and if I was going to name"}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "them, I'd say the Pleadenss, but they"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:47", "text": "call themselves the Pleadenss. That's a"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "group that's off the charts. I don't"}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "I've never walked into one for real. I"}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "don't um channeling is not something"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "that um is legit. And yet they talk like"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:21:02", "text": "they are, you know, um they don't say"}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "much. their context and ter terminology"}, {"start": "00:21:02", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "is um just a lot of hoo-ha I guess is"}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:12", "text": "the best way to put that. Um there are"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "two other types of beings that I've run"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "across and um I'm not sure how to"}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:21", "text": "describe one of them because they are"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:23", "text": "very transdimensional and they don't"}, {"start": "00:21:21", "end": "00:21:26", "text": "really materialize fully in front of"}, {"start": "00:21:23", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "people. They're like a shadow and I call"}, {"start": "00:21:26", "end": "00:21:32", "text": "them the shadow people and they come and"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "they go."}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "So could you tell everybody that's"}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "listening right now? Obviously when"}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "you're making contact with these"}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:41", "text": "extraterrestrials that this was at a"}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:43", "text": "military base. Could you tell everybody"}, {"start": "00:21:41", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "where this military base was, where this"}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:48", "text": "interaction was happening?"}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "Um most my um been followed and I've"}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "moved around geographically. Um when it"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "started I was outside of Homestead Air"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:22:01", "text": "Force Base on or on it in um in Miami"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:05", "text": "and then after that uh places in the"}, {"start": "00:22:01", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "country um when they want to make"}, {"start": "00:22:05", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "contact and most people will tell you"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "this who are truly being contacted"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "they'll follow you wherever you go and"}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "they have a way of keeping up with you"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "and um a lot of us are"}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:22", "text": "in somehow"}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:25", "text": "the ones that I'm aware of, we've all"}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:29", "text": "had something done to us uh in one way"}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "or another, you know, uh medically or"}, {"start": "00:22:29", "end": "00:22:34", "text": "and it it that's the reason we're"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "followed. It's like an experiment."}, {"start": "00:22:34", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "um uh they do they do um give uh good"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:43", "text": "concerns about us and they don't want us"}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:46", "text": "to just I mean a lot of people describe"}, {"start": "00:22:43", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "very bad um experiences and things like"}, {"start": "00:22:46", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "that and it's probably because they came"}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:51", "text": "too and they didn't know what was"}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:53", "text": "happening to them and I can understand"}, {"start": "00:22:51", "end": "00:22:57", "text": "how anybody would freak out if that"}, {"start": "00:22:53", "end": "00:22:58", "text": "happened to them you know um"}, {"start": "00:22:57", "end": "00:23:00", "text": "sure"}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "you know that would be yeah absolutely"}, {"start": "00:23:00", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "coming in contact with an"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "extraterrestrial alien would freak"}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "anybody out unless it's happened to them"}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:10", "text": "over and over again like a lot of the"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "callers that have called in over the"}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:14", "text": "years that have these experiences"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:17", "text": "happening to you and you can't hide just"}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:19", "text": "like uh Sophia said. Sophia Efl stand by"}, {"start": "00:23:17", "end": "00:23:22", "text": "let me more callers there's just I got"}, {"start": "00:23:19", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "to get to them. Area code 573"}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "welcome to the show."}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:28", "text": "Hi Blake what's going on?"}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:30", "text": "Oh"}, {"start": "00:23:28", "end": "00:23:32", "text": "just uh doing our third phase moon radio"}, {"start": "00:23:30", "end": "00:23:34", "text": "show sharing UFO stories. You got one"}, {"start": "00:23:32", "end": "00:23:36", "text": "tonight?"}, {"start": "00:23:34", "end": "00:23:40", "text": "Uh, yeah. I live in St. Charles,"}, {"start": "00:23:36", "end": "00:23:42", "text": "Missouri, and I go to I go to Usl, which"}, {"start": "00:23:40", "end": "00:23:45", "text": "is University of Missouri, St. Louis."}, {"start": "00:23:42", "end": "00:23:47", "text": "So, I commute to school there, but we"}, {"start": "00:23:45", "end": "00:23:50", "text": "have the Katy Trail, if you've ever"}, {"start": "00:23:47", "end": "00:23:51", "text": "heard of that, in uh St. Charles, which"}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:53", "text": "it kind of goes throughout the whole"}, {"start": "00:23:51", "end": "00:23:56", "text": "entire state. I kind of forget how long"}, {"start": "00:23:53", "end": "00:23:58", "text": "it is, but I do a lot of cycling and"}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "whatnot, but um it was kind of weird"}, {"start": "00:23:58", "end": "00:24:02", "text": "just um just over the past couple"}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "months, I've been seeing these weird"}, {"start": "00:24:02", "end": "00:24:06", "text": "orbs in the sky, you know? You know how"}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:08", "text": "like some people say they'll see UFOs?"}, {"start": "00:24:06", "end": "00:24:10", "text": "Sometimes you can see the, you know, the"}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:11", "text": "actual object, you know, but I was kind"}, {"start": "00:24:10", "end": "00:24:14", "text": "of seeing just these, you know, bright"}, {"start": "00:24:11", "end": "00:24:15", "text": "flasher orbs kind of sitting in the sky"}, {"start": "00:24:14", "end": "00:24:16", "text": "and, you know, some of them looked like"}, {"start": "00:24:15", "end": "00:24:18", "text": "they were just kind of moving around a"}, {"start": "00:24:16", "end": "00:24:21", "text": "little bit, but it was just kind of"}, {"start": "00:24:18", "end": "00:24:22", "text": "weird just we were kind of biking. And"}, {"start": "00:24:21", "end": "00:24:25", "text": "the one time that I didn't have my"}, {"start": "00:24:22", "end": "00:24:27", "text": "helmet on, it was just kind of weird. I"}, {"start": "00:24:25", "end": "00:24:30", "text": "just saw a flash and I'm always biking"}, {"start": "00:24:27", "end": "00:24:32", "text": "with my cousin cuz he goes to the same"}, {"start": "00:24:30", "end": "00:24:34", "text": "school, too. And it was kind of weird. I"}, {"start": "00:24:32", "end": "00:24:37", "text": "tripped over or I hit a pothole on my"}, {"start": "00:24:34", "end": "00:24:39", "text": "bike and I just kind of just hit my head"}, {"start": "00:24:37", "end": "00:24:41", "text": "pretty hard and I passed out. But I"}, {"start": "00:24:39", "end": "00:24:43", "text": "couldn't really make for sure. It just"}, {"start": "00:24:41", "end": "00:24:45", "text": "kind of seemed like a weird experience,"}, {"start": "00:24:43", "end": "00:24:47", "text": "you know, where just something was"}, {"start": "00:24:45", "end": "00:24:49", "text": "trying to contact with me, you know,"}, {"start": "00:24:47", "end": "00:24:50", "text": "just it kind of looked like a gray, but"}, {"start": "00:24:49", "end": "00:24:55", "text": "everything just kind of seemed kind of"}, {"start": "00:24:50", "end": "00:24:57", "text": "hazy, you know, but uh he it was a kind"}, {"start": "00:24:55", "end": "00:25:02", "text": "of a I don't know if anyone had any"}, {"start": "00:24:57", "end": "00:25:04", "text": "weird like instances where one person"}, {"start": "00:25:02", "end": "00:25:05", "text": "had like I don't know if it's almost"}, {"start": "00:25:04", "end": "00:25:07", "text": "like a spiritual encounter, but it just"}, {"start": "00:25:05", "end": "00:25:09", "text": "seemed kind of odd, you know, as if I"}, {"start": "00:25:07", "end": "00:25:11", "text": "was kind of in a whole different place"}, {"start": "00:25:09", "end": "00:25:12", "text": "being examined as if they trying to"}, {"start": "00:25:11", "end": "00:25:15", "text": "communicate with me, but my cousin said"}, {"start": "00:25:12", "end": "00:25:18", "text": "I was there unconscious, you know, but I"}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "didn't know if anyone has ever come on"}, {"start": "00:25:18", "end": "00:25:23", "text": "the show and had some sort of encounter"}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:24", "text": "any type of hallucination."}, {"start": "00:25:23", "end": "00:25:26", "text": "I don't know if you had any input on"}, {"start": "00:25:24", "end": "00:25:28", "text": "that, but there's a little bit more to"}, {"start": "00:25:26", "end": "00:25:31", "text": "it that's kind of uncomfortable, but"}, {"start": "00:25:28", "end": "00:25:33", "text": "it's just kind of weird. just a weird uh"}, {"start": "00:25:31", "end": "00:25:35", "text": "situation that a guy went through, you"}, {"start": "00:25:33", "end": "00:25:38", "text": "know, almost as if it was like a bad"}, {"start": "00:25:35", "end": "00:25:39", "text": "nightmare. But the just kind of the"}, {"start": "00:25:38", "end": "00:25:41", "text": "weird flashes that a guy was seeing the"}, {"start": "00:25:39", "end": "00:25:42", "text": "sky, just kind of like little orbs, you"}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:44", "text": "know, it's like that's been kind of a"}, {"start": "00:25:42", "end": "00:25:45", "text": "reoccurring thing that I've seen just"}, {"start": "00:25:44", "end": "00:25:47", "text": "kind of in the area. I don't know if"}, {"start": "00:25:45", "end": "00:25:50", "text": "anyone else in the St. Charles St. Louis"}, {"start": "00:25:47", "end": "00:25:53", "text": "area seen them or whatnot, but it's just"}, {"start": "00:25:50", "end": "00:25:53", "text": "kind of weird."}, {"start": "00:25:53", "end": "00:25:58", "text": "Yeah, UFO encounters and"}, {"start": "00:25:56", "end": "00:26:02", "text": "interdimensional beings could cause"}, {"start": "00:25:58", "end": "00:26:04", "text": "weird uh weird experiences in your life."}, {"start": "00:26:02", "end": "00:26:06", "text": "That's for sure. It can almost seem"}, {"start": "00:26:04", "end": "00:26:09", "text": "surreal"}, {"start": "00:26:06", "end": "00:26:12", "text": "beyond your consciousness."}, {"start": "00:26:09", "end": "00:26:13", "text": "You can't comprehend what what you're"}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:15", "text": "looking at, what you're experiencing."}, {"start": "00:26:13", "end": "00:26:17", "text": "So, it almost seems like a dream state,"}, {"start": "00:26:15", "end": "00:26:19", "text": "I'd imagine. Yeah, I know. I know what"}, {"start": "00:26:17", "end": "00:26:21", "text": "it feels like. Yeah, it feels like a"}, {"start": "00:26:19", "end": "00:26:22", "text": "dream state, people. Let's get some more"}, {"start": "00:26:21", "end": "00:26:27", "text": "callers. Thank you, sir, for calling in."}, {"start": "00:26:22", "end": "00:26:29", "text": "Let's get to area code 715. You there?"}, {"start": "00:26:27", "end": "00:26:30", "text": "Yeah, I'm here."}, {"start": "00:26:29", "end": "00:26:32", "text": "Hey, thanks for joining us. Where are"}, {"start": "00:26:30", "end": "00:26:36", "text": "you calling in from?"}, {"start": "00:26:32", "end": "00:26:36", "text": "Wisconsin, man."}, {"start": "00:26:36", "end": "00:26:39", "text": "All right. You got something you want to"}, {"start": "00:26:37", "end": "00:26:41", "text": "share tonight?"}, {"start": "00:26:39", "end": "00:26:44", "text": "Yeah, I was out today. Brought my"}, {"start": "00:26:41", "end": "00:26:47", "text": "Shepherd outside. Stretched a little."}, {"start": "00:26:44", "end": "00:26:50", "text": "Sky was clear enough. I heard a jet"}, {"start": "00:26:47", "end": "00:26:51", "text": "coming, you know, and uh I'm out in the"}, {"start": "00:26:50", "end": "00:26:54", "text": "country here."}, {"start": "00:26:51", "end": "00:26:56", "text": "No big deal. But it's like something"}, {"start": "00:26:54", "end": "00:26:59", "text": "flies over. I like to, you know, see"}, {"start": "00:26:56", "end": "00:27:04", "text": "what's up. Here comes this. It was like"}, {"start": "00:26:59", "end": "00:27:05", "text": "it was a jet, but it had no wings. None."}, {"start": "00:27:04", "end": "00:27:07", "text": "And I [clears throat] just had to tell"}, {"start": "00:27:05", "end": "00:27:10", "text": "you that. I don't want to take up your"}, {"start": "00:27:07", "end": "00:27:12", "text": "time, but I did see it. I didn't take my"}, {"start": "00:27:10", "end": "00:27:15", "text": "camera outside, you know. I mean, who's"}, {"start": "00:27:12", "end": "00:27:19", "text": "going to expect a cylinder going by"}, {"start": "00:27:15", "end": "00:27:21", "text": "sounding like a jet and no wings?"}, {"start": "00:27:19", "end": "00:27:23", "text": "It wasn't. It was below the clouds. That"}, {"start": "00:27:21", "end": "00:27:27", "text": "little bit of clouds that was up in the"}, {"start": "00:27:23", "end": "00:27:29", "text": "sky, you know, kind of fuzzy cloud"}, {"start": "00:27:27", "end": "00:27:32", "text": "thin."}, {"start": "00:27:29", "end": "00:27:34", "text": "It was below that. Yeah, it was. I've"}, {"start": "00:27:32", "end": "00:27:36", "text": "never seen it. So, it's like some more"}, {"start": "00:27:34", "end": "00:27:38", "text": "uh secret government work, I would"}, {"start": "00:27:36", "end": "00:27:41", "text": "imagine. You know, cuz I know no"}, {"start": "00:27:38", "end": "00:27:45", "text": "extraterrestrials going to sound like a"}, {"start": "00:27:41", "end": "00:27:46", "text": "a jet. They're not in the fossil fuel."}, {"start": "00:27:45", "end": "00:27:48", "text": "So, just wanted to tell you."}, {"start": "00:27:46", "end": "00:27:50", "text": "Sure. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. you know,"}, {"start": "00:27:48", "end": "00:27:52", "text": "supersonic,"}, {"start": "00:27:50", "end": "00:27:56", "text": "you know, somebody else might call in"}, {"start": "00:27:52", "end": "00:27:58", "text": "with this same sighting. Who knows?"}, {"start": "00:27:56", "end": "00:28:01", "text": "Okay. When did this happen in what? A"}, {"start": "00:27:58", "end": "00:28:03", "text": "supersonic jet with no wings, Wisconsin."}, {"start": "00:28:01", "end": "00:28:06", "text": "When"}, {"start": "00:28:03", "end": "00:28:08", "text": "uh that was about 6 uh o'lock this"}, {"start": "00:28:06", "end": "00:28:10", "text": "evening here."}, {"start": "00:28:08", "end": "00:28:12", "text": "I'm off with my dog. You can hear a"}, {"start": "00:28:10", "end": "00:28:14", "text": "squeak."}, {"start": "00:28:12", "end": "00:28:16", "text": "But anyway, it was something. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:28:14", "end": "00:28:19", "text": "I'm I'm like standing here going, \"Oh my"}, {"start": "00:28:16", "end": "00:28:22", "text": "god, there's no wings, man.\" And it was"}, {"start": "00:28:19", "end": "00:28:24", "text": "quite large. So, it's a cylinder, but it"}, {"start": "00:28:22", "end": "00:28:27", "text": "sounded just like, you know, your normal"}, {"start": "00:28:24", "end": "00:28:29", "text": "jet at a lower altitude."}, {"start": "00:28:27", "end": "00:28:32", "text": "And I thought nothing of it, but I"}, {"start": "00:28:29", "end": "00:28:37", "text": "always want to see if it's military or"}, {"start": "00:28:32", "end": "00:28:41", "text": "passenger or no, there was no trails,"}, {"start": "00:28:37", "end": "00:28:43", "text": "absolutely nothing clean."}, {"start": "00:28:41", "end": "00:28:45", "text": "And it was like, oh my god. I called a"}, {"start": "00:28:43", "end": "00:28:48", "text": "couple of friends because they know."}, {"start": "00:28:45", "end": "00:28:50", "text": "They know. And they know I'm not pulling"}, {"start": "00:28:48", "end": "00:28:53", "text": "nobody's leg over a thing like that."}, {"start": "00:28:50", "end": "00:28:54", "text": "It's like the government has got"}, {"start": "00:28:53", "end": "00:28:58", "text": "something"}, {"start": "00:28:54", "end": "00:29:00", "text": "with no wings."}, {"start": "00:28:58", "end": "00:29:02", "text": "Yeah. I wish I would had my phone with,"}, {"start": "00:29:00", "end": "00:29:04", "text": "but I wasn't going to run in the house"}, {"start": "00:29:02", "end": "00:29:06", "text": "cuz it wasn't, you know, time."}, {"start": "00:29:04", "end": "00:29:07", "text": "Yeah, that's what I was going to say. I"}, {"start": "00:29:06", "end": "00:29:09", "text": "bet you felt like you wanted to duck and"}, {"start": "00:29:07", "end": "00:29:12", "text": "hide for cover."}, {"start": "00:29:09", "end": "00:29:14", "text": "No. No. See, I search all the time. I've"}, {"start": "00:29:12", "end": "00:29:19", "text": "been doing this for like five years now."}, {"start": "00:29:14", "end": "00:29:22", "text": "In 79, we seen uh uh Triangle up in uh"}, {"start": "00:29:19", "end": "00:29:25", "text": "Shell Lake, Wisconsin. And I play in"}, {"start": "00:29:22", "end": "00:29:27", "text": "bands and uh trying out for this band"}, {"start": "00:29:25", "end": "00:29:30", "text": "out in the country and they I got there"}, {"start": "00:29:27", "end": "00:29:32", "text": "and they're like, \"Yeah, there's uh UFOs"}, {"start": "00:29:30", "end": "00:29:33", "text": "out here all the time.\" And I thought,"}, {"start": "00:29:32", "end": "00:29:36", "text": "\"Oh, great. Here we go.\" You know, some"}, {"start": "00:29:33", "end": "00:29:38", "text": "ass heads or something, you know. So, I"}, {"start": "00:29:36", "end": "00:29:41", "text": "I set up. I want to, you know, see what"}, {"start": "00:29:38", "end": "00:29:42", "text": "the hell they got for music. Well, I"}, {"start": "00:29:41", "end": "00:29:46", "text": "blew that off because I didn't believe"}, {"start": "00:29:42", "end": "00:29:49", "text": "in it. On the way home, my wife goes,"}, {"start": "00:29:46", "end": "00:29:51", "text": "\"What the hell is that?\" And I looked"}, {"start": "00:29:49", "end": "00:29:54", "text": "out the windshield, man. I'm like,"}, {"start": "00:29:51", "end": "00:29:56", "text": "\"Well, they weren't kidding, you know,"}, {"start": "00:29:54", "end": "00:29:59", "text": "immediately.\" That was my first time."}, {"start": "00:29:56", "end": "00:30:02", "text": "And it got out and it shot in the face"}, {"start": "00:29:59", "end": "00:30:06", "text": "after about oh, I suppose a minute and a"}, {"start": "00:30:02", "end": "00:30:10", "text": "half. I was staring at it and up she"}, {"start": "00:30:06", "end": "00:30:12", "text": "went. so fast you couldn't no way take"}, {"start": "00:30:10", "end": "00:30:15", "text": "the you know"}, {"start": "00:30:12", "end": "00:30:20", "text": "oh no it suck you to the wall."}, {"start": "00:30:15", "end": "00:30:22", "text": "Wow. You know uh incredible Wisconsin"}, {"start": "00:30:20", "end": "00:30:25", "text": "just within a couple hours. Did anybody"}, {"start": "00:30:22", "end": "00:30:28", "text": "see"}, {"start": "00:30:25", "end": "00:30:31", "text": "a supersonic jet airliner without any"}, {"start": "00:30:28", "end": "00:30:32", "text": "wings fly over Wisconsin? Videotape it."}, {"start": "00:30:31", "end": "00:30:34", "text": "If you have submit it to Third Phase"}, {"start": "00:30:32", "end": "00:30:36", "text": "Moon. We want to see it. Thanks for"}, {"start": "00:30:34", "end": "00:30:37", "text": "calling in, sir. Thanks for calling in."}, {"start": "00:30:36", "end": "00:30:41", "text": "Let's bring in some more callers. Let's"}, {"start": "00:30:37", "end": "00:30:42", "text": "bring them in. Erica code 443, you're"}, {"start": "00:30:41", "end": "00:30:44", "text": "live. Third phase of moon. Welcome to"}, {"start": "00:30:42", "end": "00:30:45", "text": "the show."}, {"start": "00:30:44", "end": "00:30:48", "text": "Hey, good evening. How y'all guys doing?"}, {"start": "00:30:45", "end": "00:30:50", "text": "This is the Treat from Baltimore."}, {"start": "00:30:48", "end": "00:30:51", "text": "Yo, Truth. How's it going, man? How's it"}, {"start": "00:30:50", "end": "00:30:53", "text": "going?"}, {"start": "00:30:51", "end": "00:30:56", "text": "Hey, man. Everything is going good, man."}, {"start": "00:30:53", "end": "00:30:59", "text": "I'm just telling y'all again, man. Look,"}, {"start": "00:30:56", "end": "00:31:01", "text": "what we first got to do is we got to use"}, {"start": "00:30:59", "end": "00:31:03", "text": "common sense, guys. Come on now. We got"}, {"start": "00:31:01", "end": "00:31:05", "text": "to use common sense. We're hearing about"}, {"start": "00:31:03", "end": "00:31:08", "text": "all these planets being found, being"}, {"start": "00:31:05", "end": "00:31:10", "text": "discovered. They setting us up for"}, {"start": "00:31:08", "end": "00:31:12", "text": "disclosure. Okay? That's how they going"}, {"start": "00:31:10", "end": "00:31:14", "text": "to do it. They can't just give it to us"}, {"start": "00:31:12", "end": "00:31:16", "text": "as if"}, {"start": "00:31:14", "end": "00:31:18", "text": "um you know, letting us know they're"}, {"start": "00:31:16", "end": "00:31:20", "text": "here. They're all around us. This that"}, {"start": "00:31:18", "end": "00:31:21", "text": "they can't hit us like that all at one"}, {"start": "00:31:20", "end": "00:31:24", "text": "time. Cuz y'all got to remember back in"}, {"start": "00:31:21", "end": "00:31:26", "text": "the day when they did War of the Worlds"}, {"start": "00:31:24", "end": "00:31:29", "text": "um back on the radio, it was just a"}, {"start": "00:31:26", "end": "00:31:30", "text": "radio broadcast. It wasn't real. But"}, {"start": "00:31:29", "end": "00:31:32", "text": "people believing that it was real. a"}, {"start": "00:31:30", "end": "00:31:34", "text": "couple people actually got killed um"}, {"start": "00:31:32", "end": "00:31:36", "text": "during that broadcast. So the government"}, {"start": "00:31:34", "end": "00:31:39", "text": "looks at all these things that has taken"}, {"start": "00:31:36", "end": "00:31:42", "text": "place in the past and then they use this"}, {"start": "00:31:39", "end": "00:31:45", "text": "to come up with ways of curing up"}, {"start": "00:31:42", "end": "00:31:48", "text": "now and also in the future. You know,"}, {"start": "00:31:45", "end": "00:31:49", "text": "it's a connective effect. So what we got"}, {"start": "00:31:48", "end": "00:31:53", "text": "to do is we got to use our common sense."}, {"start": "00:31:49", "end": "00:31:56", "text": "the guy Flee Moreno came on um not so"}, {"start": "00:31:53", "end": "00:31:58", "text": "long ago and he claimed that he knew for"}, {"start": "00:31:56", "end": "00:32:00", "text": "a fact that it was at least grades here"}, {"start": "00:31:58", "end": "00:32:02", "text": "and he said that the graves that were"}, {"start": "00:32:00", "end": "00:32:05", "text": "here that he knew about we couldn't do"}, {"start": "00:32:02", "end": "00:32:06", "text": "nothing with them. Okay, so that's just"}, {"start": "00:32:05", "end": "00:32:07", "text": "one race that we know of that's"}, {"start": "00:32:06", "end": "00:32:10", "text": "definitely here. And what I'm going to"}, {"start": "00:32:07", "end": "00:32:12", "text": "say is if it's just one race, one race"}, {"start": "00:32:10", "end": "00:32:15", "text": "that's here is interacting with human"}, {"start": "00:32:12", "end": "00:32:19", "text": "beings, then come on guys, what is going"}, {"start": "00:32:15", "end": "00:32:20", "text": "on? What is going on? I I mean it's"}, {"start": "00:32:19", "end": "00:32:24", "text": "normal what we believe normal is"}, {"start": "00:32:20", "end": "00:32:26", "text": "perceived to be is abnormal what"}, {"start": "00:32:24", "end": "00:32:28", "text": "abnormality is perceived to be. You know"}, {"start": "00:32:26", "end": "00:32:30", "text": "what I'm saying? We really know nobody"}, {"start": "00:32:28", "end": "00:32:32", "text": "really knows everything that's going on"}, {"start": "00:32:30", "end": "00:32:33", "text": "what's happening but we do know that"}, {"start": "00:32:32", "end": "00:32:36", "text": "something is going on and we do have"}, {"start": "00:32:33", "end": "00:32:38", "text": "them admitting to it. You know so come"}, {"start": "00:32:36", "end": "00:32:41", "text": "on guys, man. This is happening. You"}, {"start": "00:32:38", "end": "00:32:43", "text": "know that that UFO blew up the rocket,"}, {"start": "00:32:41", "end": "00:32:45", "text": "the SpaceX rocket. It blew it up. Okay."}, {"start": "00:32:43", "end": "00:32:48", "text": "This is things that these things do on a"}, {"start": "00:32:45", "end": "00:32:50", "text": "regular basis, but they do it under the"}, {"start": "00:32:48", "end": "00:32:53", "text": "cover of accidents, you know what I"}, {"start": "00:32:50", "end": "00:32:55", "text": "mean? Like they make it look accidental,"}, {"start": "00:32:53", "end": "00:32:56", "text": "you know, but they're really behind a"}, {"start": "00:32:55", "end": "00:32:58", "text": "lot of things that's taking place. And I"}, {"start": "00:32:56", "end": "00:33:00", "text": "talk about a lot of this in the book."}, {"start": "00:32:58", "end": "00:33:02", "text": "Um, as I said, it will be out in"}, {"start": "00:33:00", "end": "00:33:03", "text": "February. Um, you guys are mentioned in"}, {"start": "00:33:02", "end": "00:33:05", "text": "the book. I thank you guys again for"}, {"start": "00:33:03", "end": "00:33:08", "text": "everything that y'all done for us and"}, {"start": "00:33:05", "end": "00:33:09", "text": "all of the UFO and alien experiences,"}, {"start": "00:33:08", "end": "00:33:11", "text": "the people that's really having these"}, {"start": "00:33:09", "end": "00:33:13", "text": "experiences. You know, guys, we need to"}, {"start": "00:33:11", "end": "00:33:15", "text": "come together, man. you know, we need to"}, {"start": "00:33:13", "end": "00:33:17", "text": "we need to unite. We need to come a"}, {"start": "00:33:15", "end": "00:33:19", "text": "little bit closer and we need to start"}, {"start": "00:33:17", "end": "00:33:21", "text": "looking out for each other, you know."}, {"start": "00:33:19", "end": "00:33:24", "text": "So, I got an idea, you know, like with"}, {"start": "00:33:21", "end": "00:33:27", "text": "Miss Chalice, you know, F1 looking for"}, {"start": "00:33:24", "end": "00:33:29", "text": "you, me, we know what we talking about."}, {"start": "00:33:27", "end": "00:33:30", "text": "Okay? A lot of what's going on, we know"}, {"start": "00:33:29", "end": "00:33:32", "text": "what we talking about because we're"}, {"start": "00:33:30", "end": "00:33:34", "text": "really experiencing this stuff. We're"}, {"start": "00:33:32", "end": "00:33:35", "text": "really experiencing it. So, we're the"}, {"start": "00:33:34", "end": "00:33:37", "text": "ones who need to be putting this"}, {"start": "00:33:35", "end": "00:33:39", "text": "information out there and we need to put"}, {"start": "00:33:37", "end": "00:33:41", "text": "it out there as much as we possibly can."}, {"start": "00:33:39", "end": "00:33:43", "text": "Even if people don't listen, guess what?"}, {"start": "00:33:41", "end": "00:33:44", "text": "We still need to put it out there. Even"}, {"start": "00:33:43", "end": "00:33:46", "text": "at the end of the day, you like you're"}, {"start": "00:33:44", "end": "00:33:48", "text": "crazy. Guess what? We still need to put"}, {"start": "00:33:46", "end": "00:33:51", "text": "it out there because it needs to be"}, {"start": "00:33:48", "end": "00:33:53", "text": "known. It needs to be known. And us"}, {"start": "00:33:51", "end": "00:33:55", "text": "communicating amongst each other, this"}, {"start": "00:33:53", "end": "00:33:57", "text": "can be our protective shield, you know,"}, {"start": "00:33:55", "end": "00:33:59", "text": "no matter what the government do. If we"}, {"start": "00:33:57", "end": "00:34:01", "text": "stay together and we stay tight and we"}, {"start": "00:33:59", "end": "00:34:04", "text": "keep our information flowing and we keep"}, {"start": "00:34:01", "end": "00:34:06", "text": "doing what we're doing for this planet,"}, {"start": "00:34:04", "end": "00:34:08", "text": "eventually it's going to pay off."}, {"start": "00:34:06", "end": "00:34:10", "text": "It's going to pay off. I mean, come on,"}, {"start": "00:34:08", "end": "00:34:13", "text": "guys. UFOs in the news down there every"}, {"start": "00:34:10", "end": "00:34:16", "text": "single day. They've been seen down there"}, {"start": "00:34:13", "end": "00:34:18", "text": "in every single state, every country."}, {"start": "00:34:16", "end": "00:34:20", "text": "Come on."}, {"start": "00:34:18", "end": "00:34:23", "text": "You know, I mean, let's do this. Let's"}, {"start": "00:34:20", "end": "00:34:26", "text": "do it. Let's do it. The truth is right."}, {"start": "00:34:23", "end": "00:34:28", "text": "Great message. He knows what he's"}, {"start": "00:34:26", "end": "00:34:30", "text": "talking about. Let's make things happen."}, {"start": "00:34:28", "end": "00:34:31", "text": "Let's make things happen. You know what"}, {"start": "00:34:30", "end": "00:34:35", "text": "I see right here is we got two area"}, {"start": "00:34:31", "end": "00:34:37", "text": "codes coming in from 561. I'm not sure"}, {"start": "00:34:35", "end": "00:34:40", "text": "if it's related. Let's uh bring in the"}, {"start": "00:34:37", "end": "00:34:43", "text": "first caller. 561."}, {"start": "00:34:40", "end": "00:34:45", "text": "Welcome to the show."}, {"start": "00:34:43", "end": "00:34:46", "text": "Hey, what's up?"}, {"start": "00:34:45", "end": "00:34:49", "text": "Hey, how's it going? We got two callers"}, {"start": "00:34:46", "end": "00:34:51", "text": "coming in from 561."}, {"start": "00:34:49", "end": "00:34:52", "text": "Do you got something to share? You got"}, {"start": "00:34:51", "end": "00:34:54", "text": "Go ahead."}, {"start": "00:34:52", "end": "00:34:56", "text": "Hey, what's up, man? Yeah, I'm going to"}, {"start": "00:34:54", "end": "00:34:57", "text": "try to run you through 40 years really"}, {"start": "00:34:56", "end": "00:35:01", "text": "quick because I know you pressed for"}, {"start": "00:34:57", "end": "00:35:04", "text": "time. Um, about 1974 was my first"}, {"start": "00:35:01", "end": "00:35:07", "text": "experience with a UFO. actually got to"}, {"start": "00:35:04", "end": "00:35:09", "text": "experience zero G which was kind of cool"}, {"start": "00:35:07", "end": "00:35:11", "text": "uh experience after a few years in Long"}, {"start": "00:35:09", "end": "00:35:14", "text": "Beach, California. Then we moved to"}, {"start": "00:35:11", "end": "00:35:18", "text": "Hudson Valley, New York. And let me tell"}, {"start": "00:35:14", "end": "00:35:20", "text": "you what, that was a ride in, uh"}, {"start": "00:35:18", "end": "00:35:23", "text": "1976,"}, {"start": "00:35:20", "end": "00:35:25", "text": "uh living at the farm on Luke Avenue."}, {"start": "00:35:23", "end": "00:35:29", "text": "Had one of the Triangle ones come over,"}, {"start": "00:35:25", "end": "00:35:31", "text": "you know, was about eight or nine, fine."}, {"start": "00:35:29", "end": "00:35:33", "text": "uh started getting visits after that,"}, {"start": "00:35:31", "end": "00:35:34", "text": "you know, told my family, told my"}, {"start": "00:35:33", "end": "00:35:36", "text": "brother, he was in the same room with"}, {"start": "00:35:34", "end": "00:35:40", "text": "me. They didn't take his ass, but they"}, {"start": "00:35:36", "end": "00:35:42", "text": "sorry, they took mine and my family told"}, {"start": "00:35:40", "end": "00:35:43", "text": "me, \"Ah, it's just witches, you know.\""}, {"start": "00:35:42", "end": "00:35:46", "text": "So, it kind of freaked me out after"}, {"start": "00:35:43", "end": "00:35:48", "text": "that. So, the times weren't as fun. All"}, {"start": "00:35:46", "end": "00:35:50", "text": "right."}, {"start": "00:35:48", "end": "00:35:52", "text": "So, uh kind of lose track of it for a"}, {"start": "00:35:50", "end": "00:35:55", "text": "little while, you know. I was getting"}, {"start": "00:35:52", "end": "00:35:57", "text": "headaches in the early 80s, uh bloody"}, {"start": "00:35:55", "end": "00:36:00", "text": "noses in the middle of the night. Um"}, {"start": "00:35:57", "end": "00:36:01", "text": "about 1984,"}, {"start": "00:36:00", "end": "00:36:04", "text": "1985,"}, {"start": "00:36:01", "end": "00:36:05", "text": "I saw the biggest ship, biggest"}, {"start": "00:36:04", "end": "00:36:08", "text": "something, biggest thing I've ever seen"}, {"start": "00:36:05", "end": "00:36:11", "text": "in my life. This thing had to be 3/4 of"}, {"start": "00:36:08", "end": "00:36:14", "text": "a mile long to a mile long, at least 40"}, {"start": "00:36:11", "end": "00:36:16", "text": "to 50 stories tall. It was hovering over"}, {"start": "00:36:14", "end": "00:36:19", "text": "the Mohawk Mountainhouse in upstate New"}, {"start": "00:36:16", "end": "00:36:21", "text": "York, which like kind of between Record"}, {"start": "00:36:19", "end": "00:36:25", "text": "and News."}, {"start": "00:36:21", "end": "00:36:27", "text": "And uh yeah, it was just huge, huge."}, {"start": "00:36:25", "end": "00:36:29", "text": "So, uh, things were quiet for a little"}, {"start": "00:36:27", "end": "00:36:32", "text": "while. I moved in with girl, her mom,"}, {"start": "00:36:29", "end": "00:36:35", "text": "and her sister laying on the love seat"}, {"start": "00:36:32", "end": "00:36:37", "text": "one night. Next thing I know, I'm about"}, {"start": "00:36:35", "end": "00:36:40", "text": "two feet off the couch, and I feel an"}, {"start": "00:36:37", "end": "00:36:42", "text": "electric shock buzzing through me. I'm"}, {"start": "00:36:40", "end": "00:36:44", "text": "like, \"What the heck's going on?\" Right?"}, {"start": "00:36:42", "end": "00:36:46", "text": "I immediately start thinking, \"Maybe I'm"}, {"start": "00:36:44", "end": "00:36:48", "text": "touching a wire with my foot.\" But then"}, {"start": "00:36:46", "end": "00:36:51", "text": "I realize I'm still going and still"}, {"start": "00:36:48", "end": "00:36:53", "text": "going and then boom, black. All right."}, {"start": "00:36:51", "end": "00:36:55", "text": "Well, that was the first time when it"}, {"start": "00:36:53", "end": "00:36:58", "text": "started again. And uh at that point it"}, {"start": "00:36:55", "end": "00:37:01", "text": "lasted for a few years. I actually got"}, {"start": "00:36:58", "end": "00:37:03", "text": "to see somebody who I seen on the ship"}, {"start": "00:37:01", "end": "00:37:05", "text": "on one of these things talking about"}, {"start": "00:37:03", "end": "00:37:07", "text": "alien abductions here recently. I don't"}, {"start": "00:37:05", "end": "00:37:10", "text": "know if it was like the History Channel"}, {"start": "00:37:07", "end": "00:37:14", "text": "or something. But uh yeah, it was pretty"}, {"start": "00:37:10", "end": "00:37:15", "text": "crazy. And he kind of said a little bit."}, {"start": "00:37:14", "end": "00:37:17", "text": "He said he was excited about going there"}, {"start": "00:37:15", "end": "00:37:19", "text": "because he thought they were nice. There"}, {"start": "00:37:17", "end": "00:37:22", "text": "was other reasons why he was enjoying"}, {"start": "00:37:19", "end": "00:37:26", "text": "going up there at that point in time."}, {"start": "00:37:22", "end": "00:37:27", "text": "So, um, we move on to about 94. I"}, {"start": "00:37:26", "end": "00:37:29", "text": "started driving tractor to trailer"}, {"start": "00:37:27", "end": "00:37:32", "text": "across country. I'm team driving with my"}, {"start": "00:37:29", "end": "00:37:34", "text": "brother. I get out to about New Mexico."}, {"start": "00:37:32", "end": "00:37:36", "text": "Bam. I get that electric shock again."}, {"start": "00:37:34", "end": "00:37:37", "text": "I'm like, \"Holy crap, what's going on?\""}, {"start": "00:37:36", "end": "00:37:39", "text": "The next thing I know, I could see the"}, {"start": "00:37:37", "end": "00:37:42", "text": "truck driving down the road while I'm"}, {"start": "00:37:39", "end": "00:37:45", "text": "going up. Then blackout."}, {"start": "00:37:42", "end": "00:37:47", "text": "Crazy. right now. Truthfully, to be"}, {"start": "00:37:45", "end": "00:37:50", "text": "honest with you, I thought all this was"}, {"start": "00:37:47", "end": "00:37:52", "text": "like sleep paralysis or, you know,"}, {"start": "00:37:50", "end": "00:37:54", "text": "something like that. You know, I really"}, {"start": "00:37:52", "end": "00:37:56", "text": "didn't want to believe none of this. And"}, {"start": "00:37:54", "end": "00:37:58", "text": "still to this day, I really don't want"}, {"start": "00:37:56", "end": "00:38:02", "text": "to believe it. But I don't have a choice"}, {"start": "00:37:58", "end": "00:38:06", "text": "now. Um, so, uh, yeah, we're moving on"}, {"start": "00:38:02", "end": "00:38:10", "text": "up now. I'm living down here in Florida."}, {"start": "00:38:06", "end": "00:38:13", "text": "And 2015, I was riding my bicycle"}, {"start": "00:38:10", "end": "00:38:15", "text": "and I fell off my bicycle, landed,"}, {"start": "00:38:13", "end": "00:38:17", "text": "mashed up some ribs really bad, went to"}, {"start": "00:38:15", "end": "00:38:20", "text": "the hospital. They told me nothing was"}, {"start": "00:38:17", "end": "00:38:22", "text": "broken. Fine. I go home, started smoking"}, {"start": "00:38:20", "end": "00:38:24", "text": "a little bit of weeds, got a really bad"}, {"start": "00:38:22", "end": "00:38:28", "text": "cough, and I could feel the bones pop,"}, {"start": "00:38:24", "end": "00:38:30", "text": "you know. I know they broke. And uh my"}, {"start": "00:38:28", "end": "00:38:31", "text": "breathing went really shallow, you know,"}, {"start": "00:38:30", "end": "00:38:33", "text": "and I'm thinking, nah, I'm going to be"}, {"start": "00:38:31", "end": "00:38:34", "text": "okay. I'm going to be okay. Then it gets"}, {"start": "00:38:33", "end": "00:38:36", "text": "to the point where I'm not getting"}, {"start": "00:38:34", "end": "00:38:40", "text": "enough oxygen and I can't get out of the"}, {"start": "00:38:36", "end": "00:38:42", "text": "chair. All right. Boom. I black out."}, {"start": "00:38:40", "end": "00:38:45", "text": "I wake up at 3:30 in the morning. Oh, by"}, {"start": "00:38:42", "end": "00:38:47", "text": "the way, every time I've been taken, I"}, {"start": "00:38:45", "end": "00:38:48", "text": "seem to come back around 3:30 in the"}, {"start": "00:38:47", "end": "00:38:52", "text": "morning. What's up with 3:30 in the"}, {"start": "00:38:48", "end": "00:38:55", "text": "morning? So, uh,"}, {"start": "00:38:52", "end": "00:38:58", "text": "so, uh, you know, like I come back and,"}, {"start": "00:38:55", "end": "00:39:00", "text": "uh, you know, I got hypothermia. I I'm"}, {"start": "00:38:58", "end": "00:39:02", "text": "in Florida, dude. I'm hypothermic. All"}, {"start": "00:39:00", "end": "00:39:05", "text": "right. I'm shivering. I'm froze to the"}, {"start": "00:39:02", "end": "00:39:06", "text": "bone. Um, and I know what hypothermia"}, {"start": "00:39:05", "end": "00:39:08", "text": "is. I used to live in upstate New York."}, {"start": "00:39:06", "end": "00:39:10", "text": "You know, I'd go hunting in the"}, {"start": "00:39:08", "end": "00:39:12", "text": "mountains. I've jumped in the water in"}, {"start": "00:39:10", "end": "00:39:16", "text": "the winter time. I was hypothermic. No,"}, {"start": "00:39:12", "end": "00:39:19", "text": "no reason for down here. Goes on and uh,"}, {"start": "00:39:16", "end": "00:39:21", "text": "you know, 2015 was a busy year. You"}, {"start": "00:39:19", "end": "00:39:24", "text": "know, multiple multiple trips which I"}, {"start": "00:39:21", "end": "00:39:28", "text": "did not enjoy. I had one time where I"}, {"start": "00:39:24", "end": "00:39:30", "text": "actually woke up and I'm looking and the"}, {"start": "00:39:28", "end": "00:39:31", "text": "walls are like lit up like like I'm"}, {"start": "00:39:30", "end": "00:39:33", "text": "inside a fluorescent light bulb, dude. I"}, {"start": "00:39:31", "end": "00:39:35", "text": "swear to God. And there's like windows"}, {"start": "00:39:33", "end": "00:39:38", "text": "there on the side and I can see stars"}, {"start": "00:39:35", "end": "00:39:40", "text": "out the window and I feel that I'm not"}, {"start": "00:39:38", "end": "00:39:42", "text": "paralyzed. And the first thought that"}, {"start": "00:39:40", "end": "00:39:44", "text": "comes to my head is maybe I can kick"}, {"start": "00:39:42", "end": "00:39:45", "text": "them and get away. But the next thought"}, {"start": "00:39:44", "end": "00:39:49", "text": "is where the hell am I? I'm sorry. Where"}, {"start": "00:39:45", "end": "00:39:51", "text": "am I going to go? Right? So,"}, {"start": "00:39:49", "end": "00:39:52", "text": "I got that thought in my head and the"}, {"start": "00:39:51", "end": "00:39:54", "text": "next thing I know they're saying, \"You"}, {"start": "00:39:52", "end": "00:39:57", "text": "want to kick?\" Now, they're telling me"}, {"start": "00:39:54", "end": "00:39:59", "text": "to kick. So, what happens? My leg juts"}, {"start": "00:39:57", "end": "00:40:01", "text": "out as hard as it can and I kick"}, {"start": "00:39:59", "end": "00:40:04", "text": "something and I'll tell you, I limped on"}, {"start": "00:40:01", "end": "00:40:08", "text": "that foot for two years."}, {"start": "00:40:04", "end": "00:40:10", "text": "Now we're here and since August"}, {"start": "00:40:08", "end": "00:40:13", "text": "since August 18th, I've [clears throat]"}, {"start": "00:40:10", "end": "00:40:18", "text": "seen five of those shooting starve"}, {"start": "00:40:13", "end": "00:40:20", "text": "orbeez things come in and I've been up"}, {"start": "00:40:18", "end": "00:40:21", "text": "there a couple times, I guess. I don't"}, {"start": "00:40:20", "end": "00:40:24", "text": "know."}, {"start": "00:40:21", "end": "00:40:26", "text": "Uh, one time, you know, I'm I'm like"}, {"start": "00:40:24", "end": "00:40:28", "text": "sitting in a chair or something and uh"}, {"start": "00:40:26", "end": "00:40:30", "text": "to be honest, I kind of asked for this"}, {"start": "00:40:28", "end": "00:40:32", "text": "uh cuz after I realized I might have"}, {"start": "00:40:30", "end": "00:40:34", "text": "died and they might have brought me back"}, {"start": "00:40:32", "end": "00:40:37", "text": "to life and brought me back, I thought"}, {"start": "00:40:34", "end": "00:40:40", "text": "uh let's ask for something. So, I asked"}, {"start": "00:40:37", "end": "00:40:44", "text": "for knowledge mistakes. Don't ask for"}, {"start": "00:40:40", "end": "00:40:46", "text": "stuff. So, they set me in this chair and"}, {"start": "00:40:44", "end": "00:40:48", "text": "I can hear like a female one telling me,"}, {"start": "00:40:46", "end": "00:40:51", "text": "\"You can't handle this.\" And the other"}, {"start": "00:40:48", "end": "00:40:54", "text": "says, \"Let them try.\" You know, boom."}, {"start": "00:40:51", "end": "00:40:56", "text": "So, first thing I see is uh our"}, {"start": "00:40:54", "end": "00:40:58", "text": "elements, you know, the you know, our"}, {"start": "00:40:56", "end": "00:41:00", "text": "elements, you know, except there's a lot"}, {"start": "00:40:58", "end": "00:41:01", "text": "more than I'm used to seeing. And then"}, {"start": "00:41:00", "end": "00:41:04", "text": "there's another page and another page"}, {"start": "00:41:01", "end": "00:41:07", "text": "and it slips like a roller as fast as it"}, {"start": "00:41:04", "end": "00:41:10", "text": "can. Then I'm looking at the stars,"}, {"start": "00:41:07", "end": "00:41:11", "text": "galaxies, planets, and I start getting a"}, {"start": "00:41:10", "end": "00:41:15", "text": "buzzing in my head like you would not"}, {"start": "00:41:11", "end": "00:41:17", "text": "believe, you know? I mean, a buzz. and"}, {"start": "00:41:15", "end": "00:41:20", "text": "uh starts going to math. And by then,"}, {"start": "00:41:17", "end": "00:41:23", "text": "I'm screaming in agony, dude. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:41:20", "end": "00:41:25", "text": "screaming to the top of my lungs. I go"}, {"start": "00:41:23", "end": "00:41:28", "text": "out."}, {"start": "00:41:25", "end": "00:41:30", "text": "I wake up. I'm in my bed. My head is"}, {"start": "00:41:28", "end": "00:41:32", "text": "still buzzing like someone plugged me"}, {"start": "00:41:30", "end": "00:41:35", "text": "into the damn wall. Unbelievable, man."}, {"start": "00:41:32", "end": "00:41:37", "text": "Unbelievable. Okay,"}, {"start": "00:41:35", "end": "00:41:40", "text": "so"}, {"start": "00:41:37", "end": "00:41:42", "text": "one of my last trips, they tell me I"}, {"start": "00:41:40", "end": "00:41:45", "text": "need to move someplace, but don't tell"}, {"start": "00:41:42", "end": "00:41:50", "text": "me where. What the heck is that, man?"}, {"start": "00:41:45", "end": "00:41:53", "text": "I'm not a nut. I don't want to move. And"}, {"start": "00:41:50", "end": "00:41:55", "text": "I am confused as all can be, dude. This"}, {"start": "00:41:53", "end": "00:41:57", "text": "is something I never planned on talking"}, {"start": "00:41:55", "end": "00:42:00", "text": "about. This is something I wanted to"}, {"start": "00:41:57", "end": "00:42:05", "text": "take to my grave, but now I think I have"}, {"start": "00:42:00", "end": "00:42:07", "text": "to or I'm going to be tortured."}, {"start": "00:42:05", "end": "00:42:10", "text": "So, I don't know. I just wanted to give"}, {"start": "00:42:07", "end": "00:42:12", "text": "you a story. Oh, and by the way,"}, {"start": "00:42:10", "end": "00:42:14", "text": "apparently 2019 is going to be something"}, {"start": "00:42:12", "end": "00:42:16", "text": "massive. So hopefully we're all still"}, {"start": "00:42:14", "end": "00:42:18", "text": "here"}, {"start": "00:42:16", "end": "00:42:21", "text": "and sorry if"}, {"start": "00:42:18", "end": "00:42:23", "text": "Wow. You know that's a that's an"}, {"start": "00:42:21", "end": "00:42:26", "text": "incredible experience you've been having"}, {"start": "00:42:23", "end": "00:42:29", "text": "for a long time. Let me tell you. Let me"}, {"start": "00:42:26", "end": "00:42:31", "text": "ask you this before uh before third"}, {"start": "00:42:29", "end": "00:42:33", "text": "phase of moon's up. The show's just"}, {"start": "00:42:31", "end": "00:42:36", "text": "about done. But what does it feel like"}, {"start": "00:42:33", "end": "00:42:38", "text": "to be in zero G? And where were you?"}, {"start": "00:42:36", "end": "00:42:39", "text": "Were you in an alien craft at that time"}, {"start": "00:42:38", "end": "00:42:42", "text": "quickly?"}, {"start": "00:42:39", "end": "00:42:44", "text": "I'm pretty sure I was. Um, there's like"}, {"start": "00:42:42", "end": "00:42:46", "text": "a walkway. There's these giant things"}, {"start": "00:42:44", "end": "00:42:50", "text": "that went way down someplace that was"}, {"start": "00:42:46", "end": "00:42:52", "text": "really black. And it was I don't know"}, {"start": "00:42:50", "end": "00:42:55", "text": "how to describe it. It's like being in"}, {"start": "00:42:52", "end": "00:42:57", "text": "water without the water, man. I I I"}, {"start": "00:42:55", "end": "00:43:00", "text": "don't know what to say,"}, {"start": "00:42:57", "end": "00:43:01", "text": "you know. Um, I've experienced that a"}, {"start": "00:43:00", "end": "00:43:02", "text": "few times and I'll tell you, it's"}, {"start": "00:43:01", "end": "00:43:04", "text": "something you won't forget. It's one of"}, {"start": "00:43:02", "end": "00:43:08", "text": "the things I remember at four years old."}, {"start": "00:43:04", "end": "00:43:08", "text": "So, yeah."}, {"start": "00:43:08", "end": "00:43:12", "text": "You still there?"}, {"start": "00:43:10", "end": "00:43:15", "text": "Oh, yeah. I'm I'm here, man. I just I'm"}, {"start": "00:43:12", "end": "00:43:17", "text": "just listening to your story. What about"}, {"start": "00:43:15", "end": "00:43:18", "text": "What about the aliens? Have"}, {"start": "00:43:17", "end": "00:43:20", "text": "What do they look like? What do they"}, {"start": "00:43:18", "end": "00:43:23", "text": "look like? Give us some details."}, {"start": "00:43:20", "end": "00:43:25", "text": "To be honest, you know. Okay, this is"}, {"start": "00:43:23", "end": "00:43:27", "text": "It's going to get wackier. You ready for"}, {"start": "00:43:25", "end": "00:43:30", "text": "wackiness? Cuz I'm telling I'm ready to"}, {"start": "00:43:27", "end": "00:43:33", "text": "jump off the building. Apparently, I may"}, {"start": "00:43:30", "end": "00:43:36", "text": "have a half breed alien child who's a"}, {"start": "00:43:33", "end": "00:43:39", "text": "girl. And to be honest, that's the only"}, {"start": "00:43:36", "end": "00:43:41", "text": "face I've ever seen clear. Now, when I"}, {"start": "00:43:39", "end": "00:43:44", "text": "seen her, there was like four little"}, {"start": "00:43:41", "end": "00:43:47", "text": "guys on each side of her with kind of"}, {"start": "00:43:44", "end": "00:43:49", "text": "big heads, but I can't remember facial"}, {"start": "00:43:47", "end": "00:43:51", "text": "details. I've never remembered their"}, {"start": "00:43:49", "end": "00:43:53", "text": "facial details. Now, there was one time"}, {"start": "00:43:51", "end": "00:43:55", "text": "when they brought me up and here here"}, {"start": "00:43:53", "end": "00:43:57", "text": "again, this is recent. I I said, \"I want"}, {"start": "00:43:55", "end": "00:43:59", "text": "to see you, right? I want to see I want"}, {"start": "00:43:57", "end": "00:44:01", "text": "to see.\" So, I get lifted out of my bed."}, {"start": "00:43:59", "end": "00:44:05", "text": "I'm going up past the house. I could see"}, {"start": "00:44:01", "end": "00:44:07", "text": "the trees and uh"}, {"start": "00:44:05", "end": "00:44:10", "text": "and I got this overwhelm overwhelming"}, {"start": "00:44:07", "end": "00:44:12", "text": "fear, dude. I mean fear like you would"}, {"start": "00:44:10", "end": "00:44:14", "text": "not believe. Uh total fear. And I"}, {"start": "00:44:12", "end": "00:44:18", "text": "wouldn't open my eyes. I crawled up in a"}, {"start": "00:44:14", "end": "00:44:21", "text": "fetal position like a baby until I came"}, {"start": "00:44:18", "end": "00:44:23", "text": "back down."}, {"start": "00:44:21", "end": "00:44:26", "text": "Now I I've been in situations where I've"}, {"start": "00:44:23", "end": "00:44:28", "text": "had guns put on my forehead. It didn't"}, {"start": "00:44:26", "end": "00:44:30", "text": "bother me. But for some reason, I'm"}, {"start": "00:44:28", "end": "00:44:33", "text": "going to cry like a little baby. I don't"}, {"start": "00:44:30", "end": "00:44:36", "text": "know, man. [music] No, I I I don't know"}, {"start": "00:44:33", "end": "00:44:39", "text": "what to say. But my question for you,"}, {"start": "00:44:36", "end": "00:44:41", "text": "has anybody else you talk to, cuz I"}, {"start": "00:44:39", "end": "00:44:42", "text": "really don't listen to this girl, you"}, {"start": "00:44:41", "end": "00:44:45", "text": "know? I mean, I watch your stuff on"}, {"start": "00:44:42", "end": "00:44:46", "text": "YouTube, and you're like the realest one"}, {"start": "00:44:45", "end": "00:44:47", "text": "out there that I've seen so far. At"}, {"start": "00:44:46", "end": "00:44:51", "text": "least you tried to keep some of the fake"}, {"start": "00:44:47", "end": "00:44:55", "text": "stuff off. Um, has anybody else said"}, {"start": "00:44:51", "end": "00:44:55", "text": "anything about a big change coming?"}, {"start": "00:44:55", "end": "00:45:01", "text": "You know what, man? things are happening"}, {"start": "00:44:58", "end": "00:45:04", "text": "and big things are coming. Yeah, we get"}, {"start": "00:45:01", "end": "00:45:06", "text": "that all the time. What I want you to do"}, {"start": "00:45:04", "end": "00:45:09", "text": "is feel free to call back anytime. Third"}, {"start": "00:45:06", "end": "00:45:11", "text": "phase of the moon radio on Friday, sir,"}, {"start": "00:45:09", "end": "00:45:14", "text": "because uh what you're sharing with us"}, {"start": "00:45:11", "end": "00:45:16", "text": "right now, people need to know."}, {"start": "00:45:14", "end": "00:45:18", "text": "Thanks, man."}, {"start": "00:45:16", "end": "00:45:21", "text": "Thanks for calling in."}, {"start": "00:45:18", "end": "00:45:23", "text": "Peace. I'll talk to you, man."}, {"start": "00:45:21", "end": "00:45:25", "text": "Keep in touch. Keep in touch. Be safe."}, {"start": "00:45:23", "end": "00:45:27", "text": "Be safe because things are going down."}, {"start": "00:45:25", "end": "00:45:29", "text": "And I wanted to thank everybody from"}, {"start": "00:45:27", "end": "00:45:30", "text": "around the world that joined us and"}, {"start": "00:45:29", "end": "00:45:33", "text": "everybody on our flash chat, [music]"}, {"start": "00:45:30", "end": "00:45:36", "text": "Billy Hassel, Bradford Blair, Brandon"}, {"start": "00:45:33", "end": "00:45:38", "text": "Bl."}, {"start": "00:45:36", "end": "00:45:41", "text": "I want to thank Corey Allard, Eric"}, {"start": "00:45:38", "end": "00:45:46", "text": "Salvador, Eugene Kelly,"}, {"start": "00:45:41", "end": "00:45:49", "text": "Iris Petu, Joe Widner, Lisa Walker,"}, {"start": "00:45:46", "end": "00:45:50", "text": "Rocky Metaf, and uh yeah, weird stuff."}, {"start": "00:45:49", "end": "00:45:52", "text": "Hey, thanks weird stuff for joining us."}, {"start": "00:45:50", "end": "00:45:54", "text": "Everybody, keep your eyes on the skies."}, {"start": "00:45:52", "end": "00:45:58", "text": "Join us on our YouTube channel for"}, {"start": "00:45:54", "end": "00:46:01", "text": "updates in regards to the UFO phenomenon"}, {"start": "00:45:58", "end": "00:46:01", "text": "happening right now."}, {"start": "00:46:01", "end": "00:46:04", "text": "Join us next week, Friday. We'll be back"}, {"start": "00:46:03", "end": "00:46:08", "text": "taking calls from around the world. And"}, {"start": "00:46:04", "end": "00:46:09", "text": "you know what? We're not alone. People,"}, {"start": "00:46:08", "end": "00:46:12", "text": "keep your eyes on the skies. Blake"}, {"start": "00:46:09", "end": "00:46:12", "text": "cousins."}, {"start": "00:46:12", "end": "00:46:14", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "00:46:17", "end": "00:46:19", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "00:46:21", "end": "00:46:24", "text": "Hey, hey, hey."}, {"start": "00:46:25", "end": "00:46:27", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "00:46:31", "end": "00:46:33", "text": "[music]"}, {"start": "00:46:40", "end": "00:46:42", "text": "[music]"}]

[{"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "Welcome back to Third Phase of Moon."}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "You've got the Cousins brothers and"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "we've got the sad news. A few days ago,"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "we've been standing by right here at"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "Third Phase of Moon. We didn't want to"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "make an announcement publicly until we"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "got more details with regards to the"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "passing of David Wilco. Over the past"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "few months, we've been working closely"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "with David on a special project."}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "Something that he really was excited to"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "share to the public. A film company that"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "we're working with is going to make a"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "special announcement, a major press"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "release in about 10 days from now with"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "regards to this special project that we"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "were working with David. As I said, he"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "was really proud of this project that's"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "going to be released to the world."}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "You're going to find out in the last"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "work of David Wilcock and this special"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "press release will be coming out. So, we"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "wanted to let everybody know that David"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "is in our mind and I'm sure he's on your"}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "mind right now and there's going to be"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "more to come. Trust me, it's going to be"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "really exciting. Now, let's get to the"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "viral video that's taken over the world."}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "The video that we reposted 10 days ago"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "has gone viral over the internet. But"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "unfortunately,"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "the story changed after we posted up on"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "Third Phase of Moon. We're going to be"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "breaking down the misinformation,"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "maybe some of the disinformation"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "or maybe pure ignorance of how this"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "video went viral over the internet."}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "Again, 10 days ago, we posted this."}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "Here's the clip. Welcome back to Third"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "Phase of Moon. You've got the Cousins"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "Brothers and we've got the craziest"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "smoking gun UFO video in my opinion that"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "has come to Third Phase of Moon in the"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "past 10 years. Right now, you've seen"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "what was shown to Bob Lazar via Paul"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "Logan in his Flying Saucer video. So, we"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "wanted to go back in the archive of"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "Third Phase Moon and pull up one of the"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "greatest"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "pieces of evidence, video evidence of"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "the phenomenon. We're going to share it"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "raw right here at Third Phase of Moon,"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "including incredible new UFO videos just"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "into Third Phase of Moon. All right,"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "that's what we posted 10 days ago. And"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "here's the original video we posted 9"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "years ago. North Carolina with 56,000"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "views. Now, people all over the internet"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "are changing the story, the narrative."}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "They're saying this was captured over"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "the Nellis Air Force Base. major"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "platforms on all social media has picked"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "up on this. Look at UFO God with over"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "22,000 views. He's almost up to 800,000"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "views. Casper site posted it up. He got"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "about 254,000"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "views. Again, our original post is only"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "up to 54. And look at Haime Mosan is"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "picking up on this. And again, the"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "problem is they're saying this was over"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "Nellis Air Force Base. Look at this. 1.4"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "million views. And again, the story is"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "inaccurate."}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "UFO Mania is at it with 9.7,000"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "views. Um, again, 40,000 views coming in"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "from Interstellar. Again, promoting the"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "narrative that this was over Nellis."}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "Again, look at this. 57,000 views. And"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "uh, unfortunately, the story is just"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "going. John Stewart posted that moments"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "ago. Look at these enhanced photos."}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "These are amazing. But again, mystery"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "world news spreading that this is from"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "Nellis. Again, 126,000 views coming in"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "from"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "the Euphalli uh Pedro and uh Truth Pole"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "is posting it. Everybody's just"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "reposting this without doing any kind of"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "background research. We posted this"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "again over 9 years ago. The mystery"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "uh they're saying that it doesn't look"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "like AI. It's it's not a hoax. We agree"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "with that. The video is authentic."}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "Again, 174,000 views, but they're saying"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "it was allegedly over the Nellis Air"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "Force Base when we posted this quite a"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "long time ago. Brent. Yeah. Not Not only"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "are they saying it's over Nellis Air"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "Force base, they're saying it was"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "captured a week a week and a half ago,"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "two weeks ago. Again, this video is"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "actually 13 years old and Ed gave this"}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "to us exclusively and we posted it on"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "our channel like nine years ago. So, and"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "then we put it out last week as what was"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "it? Big time. Oh, yeah. Here's the"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "original post 9 years ago. There it is."}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "And it was given to us exclusively from"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "Ed and we reposted this maybe about 7 10"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "days ago and we called it what do we"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "call it Blake again? We call it smoking"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "gun footage. This ain't no clickbait and"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "it wasn't. But you know, everybody"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "understands that the footage is"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "authentic. It's mind-blowing. It is."}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "It's absolutely incredible. But the"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "problem is the credit shifted when"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "somebody else reposted it and then"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "everybody's reposting it and not going"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "to the original source of Third Phase of"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "Moon. Our archive is vast. That's that's"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "why you need to uh stay tuned to Third"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "Phase of Moon. Look at this. It's this"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "video is now supposedly was taken 2"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "weeks ago over Nellis when we posted"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "this evidence over 9 years ago. And the"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:32", "text": "problem is there's somebody out there"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "that's doing something strange because"}, {"start": "00:05:32", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "not only are they posting it and doing a"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "misinformation, they're actually putting"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "a different audio track in the"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "background, not even the original track"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "and people they're falling for it."}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "whatever it is that you're listening to"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "in these repost,"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "the audio's bunk. It it's just some sort"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "of audio dub. And then they then"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "somebody nefariously said it's over uh"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "Nellis Air Force Base. Whoever spread"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "this rumor really got uh the world"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "shaken up because they're follow they're"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "ones uh following third phase of moon"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "and then reposting. Yeah, I I'm pretty"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "sure they're not ignorant. All of them."}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "Maybe some of them are, but I'm pretty"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "sure when they saw our post that we"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "posted 10 days ago, somebody just"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "grabbed it and changed the narrative and"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "everybody went with that post instead of"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "the source. Thirdphase moon is the"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "source. Absolutely. And look at these"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "incredible enhancements though. It uh"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "the internet is a pretty crazy place and"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "we can't blame everybody for spreading"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "the information. They don't know"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "everything, but you know, look at these"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "pictures. it. Something was captured"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "over North Carolina by a person named"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "Ed. So, if you see anybody posting this"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "stuff up, just tell them this is from"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "Third Phase of Moon."}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "We did reach out to a lot of these uh"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "posters, even Casper's site. He"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "immediately gave recognition to Third"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "Phase of Moon and gave credit where"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "credit's due once he found out after we"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "told him what was going on. But a lot of"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "people like John Stewart, I continuously"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "left messages there. They're not"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "retracting their story. They're sticking"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "to the this false narrative of Nellis."}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "I've I've talking spoken to all these"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "people leaving messages and they're"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "continuing to spread the the"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "misinformation. I don't know if you know"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "the source, just simply give the credit"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "to the source, especially when the"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "source is reaching out. We don't mind"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "people sharing. That's what this world"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "is all about. you UFOs"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "should be shared, but at least give the"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "credit if you can. And that's what I"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "think it's really important."}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "I'm sure you guys could agree with this."}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "Let me know. And like I said, if you see"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "people reposting this, just give them a"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "double check and say, \"Hey, look, this"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "is from Third Phase of Moon. It wasn't"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "shot two weeks ago. It's not over"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "Nellis.\""}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "And uh, you know, just stick to stick to"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "what we know."}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "Now, you know what's interesting? I"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "don't know. It's a tough world out"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "there. We put out this documentary,"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "Roswell Declassified. It only got like"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "12,000 views on YouTube. Maybe they"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "don't want you to watch this"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "documentary. That's why we're going to"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "right now repost it so you could watch"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "the historical I think most historical"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "retelling"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "of the Roswell event. We work closely"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "with Michael Strat, aerospace historian."}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "He knows Roswell inside and out. We"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "worked closely for a month getting the"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "details, the precise names, the"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "locations, everything we could throw at"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "it, we threw at it at this documentary."}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "Guys, please enjoy Roswell Declassified"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "and share this link to your friends. And"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "once again,"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "the source is third phase of moon."}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "July 1947,"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "a storm unlike any other rolled across"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "the Lincoln County high desert. But it"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "wasn't just the thunder that shook the"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "ranch lands of New Mexico that night."}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "A mechanical scream heard between the"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "cracks of the thunderstorm."}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "A sound that signaled the end of a"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "voyage from somewhere else."}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "Struck by a billion volts of raw energy,"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "the 30foot craft didn't just crash, it"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "disintegrated."}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "A shower of impossible technology was"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "sewn into the desert sand, scattered for"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "miles, leaving behind a trail of secrets"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "that the government would spend decades"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "trying to bury."}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "While the main craft was reduced to"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "splinters, this vessel plummeted toward"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "the earth, carrying something or someone"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "within its reinforced hull. The truth"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "sat waiting in the dark."}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "In this documentary, we go beyond the"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "weather balloons and the redacted files."}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "We search for the pieces they missed and"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "the secrets that are still being held."}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "Roswell, the definitive timeline,"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "the paper trail. For decades, the events"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "of July 1947 have been shrouded in"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "mystery, skepticism, and deliberate"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "misinformation."}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "But for those who seek the truth, the"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "evidence is overwhelming."}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "In their seinal work, Witness to"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "Roswell, investigators Don Schmidt and"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "Tom Kerry meticulously documented"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "firsthand military accounts from those"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:52", "text": "who loaded the craft to the pilots who"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "transported the remains."}, {"start": "00:10:52", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "Despite the historical magnitude of"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "these events, the trail was"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "intentionally gone cold."}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "In 1995,"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "Representative Steven Schiff attempted"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "to recover official records from the"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "Pentagon, only to discover a disturbing"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "reality. The files had been destroyed."}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "The military could not explain who"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "destroyed them or why."}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "We are left to piece together the most"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "significant event in human history"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "through the eyes of those who were"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "there. July 2nd, 1947,"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "the descent. The incident began not on"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "the 4th of July, but on the night of"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "July 2nd at 11:59 p.m. The first"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "witnesses were Mr. and Mrs. Dan Wilmont,"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "respected citizens who observed a bright"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "glowing object approximately 15 to 20 ft"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "in diameter streaking across the sky"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "north of Roswell."}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "Simultaneously, from the third floor of"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "St. Mary's Hospital, Mother Superior"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "Mary Bernardet and Sister Capistrano"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "watched a flaming object falling toward"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "the earth."}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "The four sites of Roswell."}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "To understand the crash, one must"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "understand the geography. There were"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "four distinct areas of interest. The"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "touchdown site located north of the main"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "debris field. The debris field located"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "on the Foster Ranch. This is the site"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "famously discovered by rancher M."}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "Brazelle."}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "The second body site, the Proctor site,"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "2 and a half miles east of the debris"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "field, where two bodies were ejected"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "from the craft during its chaotic"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "descent."}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "The final site where the eggshaped craft"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "landed"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "July 3rd, 1947."}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "On the morning of July 3rd, M. Brazelle"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "and 7-year-old Timothy Proctctor"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "discovered a gouge in the earth nearly a"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "mile long. The debris scattered across"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "the ranch was unlike anything known to"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "science."}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "Brazelle noted that his sheep, usually"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "compliant, refused to cross the debris"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "field, a behavior that persisted for"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "years."}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "July 4th, 1947."}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "a secret in a cigar box. Unaware of the"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "gravity of his find, M. 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On July 6th,"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "Brazle drove 75 miles over unimproved"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "roads to the Chavez County Sheriff's"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "Office."}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "Sheriff George Wilcox, stunned by the"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "properties of the material, contacted"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "the Roswell Army Airfield."}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "By the morning of July 7th, Major Jesse"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "Marcel and CIC agent Sheridan Cavitt"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "arrived at the ranch."}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "Marcel, a seasoned intelligence officer,"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:09", "text": "would later stay firmly until the day he"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "died. It certainly wasn't anything built"}, {"start": "00:15:09", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "by us."}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "The final resting place. While the"}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "military secured the ranch, a 13 ft"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:25", "text": "egg-shaped escape pod lay embedded in a"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "rocky outgrowth 35 mi north of town. It"}, {"start": "00:15:25", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "was first discovered by an archaeologist"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "and students from Texas Tech and shortly"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "after by a local fireman named Dan Dwire"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "who arrived in a tanker truck."}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "What they saw changed them forever."}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "the small egg-shaped craft. Two deceased"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "beings"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "and a third reportedly still alive"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "waiting in the silence of the New Mexico"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "desert."}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "A survivor stumbling dazed and alone in"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "the desert sun. The beings witness"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "accounts of the occupants remained"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "remarkably consistent."}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "These were not the monsters of 1940s"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "cinema."}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "They stood between 3 and 1/2 to 4t tall"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "with oversized heads and large liquid"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "black eyes. Their mouths were mere"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "slits, their noses minute. They wore"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:41", "text": "one-piece silvercoled flight suits that"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "appeared so tight fitting they seemed"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "integrated into their very skin."}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "News of the crash didn't just leak, it"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "erupted. 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Meanwhile, in town, police"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "officer Robert Scrogggins showed pieces"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "of the memory medal to members of the"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "fire department. Among them was"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "12-year-old Frankie Dwire, Dan's"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "daughter. She held the material in her"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "own hands, watching in disbelief as it"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "crumpled like paper and then flowed back"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "into a perfect seamless shape."}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "The military response was swift and"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "uncompromising. Captain Sherid and"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "Cavitt filled his jeep carry all to the"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "brim with wreckage, leaving Major Jesse"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "Marcel behind to continue the search."}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "But the recovery went beyond the ranch."}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "Soldiers moved through the town of"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "Roswell with a singular mission, total"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "recovery."}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "They entered storage sheds, prying up"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "individual wooden floorboards to search"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "for souvenirs hidden away by locals."}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "Bags of grain were ripped and cut open"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "to make sure no pieces of the debris was"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "hidden from the military."}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "Roadblocks were set up to keep the"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "locals out from the area of the crash"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "and debris field. At 100 p.m., a Piper"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "Cub, Associated Press photographer Robin"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "Adair, rented the aircraft and looking"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "out the window."}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:50", "text": "Below him, he saw the debris field. He"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "saw the military presence and the troop"}, {"start": "00:18:50", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "transports moving in."}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "This is another incredible witness"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "account from the Associated Press."}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "To this day, it is a mathematical"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "certainty that scraps of that craft"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "remain hidden in the floorboards and"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "attics of New Mexico. Silent witnesses"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:13", "text": "to a suppressed history."}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "July 8th, a father's secret. In the"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "early hours of July 8th, Major Jesse"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "Marcel stopped at his home before"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "returning to the airfield. He couldn't"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "keep what he had seen entirely to"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "himself. He woke his wife and his young"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "son, Jesse Jr., to show them the"}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "weightless, indestructible material. It"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "was the young Jesse Jr. who first"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "noticed the pastel hieroglyphic symbols"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:49", "text": "embossed on the inside of a small"}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "I-beam, markings that would haunt him"}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "for the rest of his life."}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "What did it look like inside that 13 ft"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:20:02", "text": "pod? Sergeant William Bud Taylor of the"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "509th Bomb Group was one of the few to"}, {"start": "00:20:02", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "appear inside. His testimony paints a"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "picture not of alien technology, but of"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "something advanced beyond our"}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "understanding. He described a network of"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "strange plastic-like filaments, what we"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "would recognize today as fiber optics"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "entwined within the structure. He saw"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:30", "text": "flat screen monitors and display panels"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "embedded directly into the walls, bathed"}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "in an ethereal violet and pink purple"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "light."}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "A tent was constructed beside the escape"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "pod. A photographer was brought in by"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "the military named Fred Benthal."}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "He took multiple photos of the alien"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "bodies. These photos exist in the"}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:55", "text": "archives of government, never shown to"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "the public. As the military secured the"}, {"start": "00:20:55", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "site with a full retrieval operation,"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "ambulances, troop transports, and lowboy"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:07", "text": "trailers, the debate over the craft's"}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "origin began behind closed doors. While"}, {"start": "00:21:07", "end": "00:21:13", "text": "the public was sold a story of weather"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:16", "text": "balloons, experts within the shadows"}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "held different theories. Ernst Steinhoff"}, {"start": "00:21:16", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "of Operation Paperclip argued the craft"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:23", "text": "was not extraterrestrial but"}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:26", "text": "extradimensional."}, {"start": "00:21:23", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "Navy commander George W. Hoover who"}, {"start": "00:21:26", "end": "00:21:32", "text": "worked alongside Wernern von Brown went"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:35", "text": "a step further. He believed these"}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:37", "text": "visitors were not from another planet"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "but were extrers"}, {"start": "00:21:37", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "from our own distant future."}, {"start": "00:21:45", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "As the recovery operation intensified on"}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:53", "text": "the morning of July 8th, 1947,"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "the military faced a surprising"}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:59", "text": "logistical hurdle. Despite being the"}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:22:01", "text": "home of the elite 509th bomb group,"}, {"start": "00:21:59", "end": "00:22:04", "text": "Roswell Army Airfield lacked the"}, {"start": "00:22:01", "end": "00:22:07", "text": "specific crane equipment needed to lift"}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:10", "text": "the 13 ft escape pod. In an ironic"}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:12", "text": "twist, they were forced to hire a"}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "civilian contractor from downtown"}, {"start": "00:22:12", "end": "00:22:19", "text": "Roswell. This contractor drove 35 miles"}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:20", "text": "north to the impact site where he"}, {"start": "00:22:19", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "witnessed the military's frantic"}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "efforts. Under heavy guard, the crane"}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "hoisted the seamless egg-shaped craft"}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:33", "text": "onto a lowboy tractor trailer. It was"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "immediately draped in heavy tarps,"}, {"start": "00:22:33", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "hiding the jagged breach in its hull"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "from prying eyes as it began its slow"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:42", "text": "journey into history."}, {"start": "00:22:43", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "By midm morning, the first body flight"}, {"start": "00:22:46", "end": "00:22:51", "text": "was prepared. Captain Oliver Papy"}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:54", "text": "Henderson, a senior pilot, was ordered"}, {"start": "00:22:51", "end": "00:22:58", "text": "to fly his C-54 transport directly to"}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:23:02", "text": "right field in Dayton, Ohio. The cargo"}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "was as grim as it was historic. Decades"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:07", "text": "later, in 1982,"}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:10", "text": "Henderson finally broke his silence,"}, {"start": "00:23:07", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "confessing to his wife, Safo that he had"}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:15", "text": "flown the wreckage in the bodies of"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:17", "text": "several small beings. He described them"}, {"start": "00:23:15", "end": "00:23:20", "text": "as clearly nonhuman,"}, {"start": "00:23:17", "end": "00:23:22", "text": "their remains exposed to the"}, {"start": "00:23:20", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "unpressurized air of the cargo hold"}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "during the long flight to Ohio."}, {"start": "00:23:28", "end": "00:23:33", "text": "While the craft was being moved, the man"}, {"start": "00:23:31", "end": "00:23:36", "text": "who started it all was facing a"}, {"start": "00:23:33", "end": "00:23:38", "text": "nightmare. M. Brezzle was apprehended by"}, {"start": "00:23:36", "end": "00:23:41", "text": "military police on the streets of"}, {"start": "00:23:38", "end": "00:23:43", "text": "Roswell and detained at the airfield."}, {"start": "00:23:41", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "For 5 days, the humble rancher was"}, {"start": "00:23:43", "end": "00:23:50", "text": "interrogated, threatened, and subjected"}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:53", "text": "to a humiliating fullbody cavity search."}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:56", "text": "The military's extreme reaction to a"}, {"start": "00:23:53", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "weather balloon suggests Brazle saw far"}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:24:02", "text": "more than just foil and I-beams. It is"}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "widely believed he witnessed the bodies"}, {"start": "00:24:02", "end": "00:24:08", "text": "at the second site before the transition"}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:11", "text": "to the base. When he was finally"}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:14", "text": "released, he was a changed man, bitter,"}, {"start": "00:24:11", "end": "00:24:19", "text": "silent, and broken by the very"}, {"start": "00:24:14", "end": "00:24:19", "text": "government he had tried to help."}, {"start": "00:24:22", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "At 11 a.m., Colonel William Blanchard"}, {"start": "00:24:25", "end": "00:24:30", "text": "issued the now legendary press release."}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:33", "text": "The military had captured a flying"}, {"start": "00:24:30", "end": "00:24:37", "text": "saucer. But while the world's headlines"}, {"start": "00:24:33", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "exploded, the debris field was being"}, {"start": "00:24:37", "end": "00:24:40", "text": "erased."}, {"start": "00:24:40", "end": "00:24:45", "text": "Teams of 60 men were lined up"}, {"start": "00:24:43", "end": "00:24:47", "text": "shouldertosh shoulder, moving across the"}, {"start": "00:24:45", "end": "00:24:51", "text": "ranch on their hands and knees to pick"}, {"start": "00:24:47", "end": "00:24:51", "text": "up every scrap."}, {"start": "00:24:52", "end": "00:24:56", "text": "Even then, the military wasn't"}, {"start": "00:24:54", "end": "00:24:58", "text": "satisfied."}, {"start": "00:24:56", "end": "00:25:01", "text": "They brought in industrial vacuum"}, {"start": "00:24:58", "end": "00:25:04", "text": "cleaners, hauling them 75 miles from"}, {"start": "00:25:01", "end": "00:25:06", "text": "town to the remote ranch to suck up the"}, {"start": "00:25:04", "end": "00:25:10", "text": "tiniest shards of memory metal from the"}, {"start": "00:25:06", "end": "00:25:10", "text": "desert sand."}, {"start": "00:25:11", "end": "00:25:17", "text": "At 4:00 p.m., the secret went public for"}, {"start": "00:25:14", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "a fleeting moment. To reach the base,"}, {"start": "00:25:17", "end": "00:25:23", "text": "the military convoy, four jeeps, and a"}, {"start": "00:25:20", "end": "00:25:25", "text": "lowboy with a tarp covered object had to"}, {"start": "00:25:23", "end": "00:25:27", "text": "drive directly down Main Street. Dozens"}, {"start": "00:25:25", "end": "00:25:30", "text": "of citizens watched the strange"}, {"start": "00:25:27", "end": "00:25:33", "text": "egg-shaped silhouette pass by. A local"}, {"start": "00:25:30", "end": "00:25:36", "text": "roofer working high above on Alexander"}, {"start": "00:25:33", "end": "00:25:40", "text": "Street had the most unique perspective"}, {"start": "00:25:36", "end": "00:25:42", "text": "of all. It was a bird'seye view of a"}, {"start": "00:25:40", "end": "00:25:46", "text": "secret the Pentagon was already claiming"}, {"start": "00:25:42", "end": "00:25:50", "text": "didn't exist."}, {"start": "00:25:46", "end": "00:25:52", "text": "Hangar P3, the central command."}, {"start": "00:25:50", "end": "00:25:54", "text": "The convoy arrived at the airfield and"}, {"start": "00:25:52", "end": "00:25:57", "text": "drove directly into the east side of"}, {"start": "00:25:54", "end": "00:25:59", "text": "hangar P3, building 84."}, {"start": "00:25:57", "end": "00:26:01", "text": "This hangar became the central command"}, {"start": "00:25:59", "end": "00:26:04", "text": "center for the entire retrieval"}, {"start": "00:26:01", "end": "00:26:04", "text": "operation."}, {"start": "00:26:16", "end": "00:26:22", "text": "Inside, amidst the smell of aviation"}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:25", "text": "fuel and grease, childsized caskets were"}, {"start": "00:26:22", "end": "00:26:28", "text": "prepared. The interior of hangar P3"}, {"start": "00:26:25", "end": "00:26:30", "text": "remains standing today in 2026."}, {"start": "00:26:28", "end": "00:26:33", "text": "If you stand in the center of that"}, {"start": "00:26:30", "end": "00:26:36", "text": "floor, you are within 3 ft of where the"}, {"start": "00:26:33", "end": "00:26:38", "text": "bodies were originally laid out for"}, {"start": "00:26:36", "end": "00:26:40", "text": "inspection."}, {"start": "00:26:38", "end": "00:26:42", "text": "One of the most chilling accounts comes"}, {"start": "00:26:40", "end": "00:26:45", "text": "from the Lieutenant Governor of New"}, {"start": "00:26:42", "end": "00:26:48", "text": "Mexico, Joseph Mononttoya."}, {"start": "00:26:45", "end": "00:26:51", "text": "After being granted a brief unauthorized"}, {"start": "00:26:48", "end": "00:26:53", "text": "look inside Hangar P3, he was seen"}, {"start": "00:26:51", "end": "00:26:55", "text": "fleeing the building in a state of sheer"}, {"start": "00:26:53", "end": "00:26:58", "text": "panic."}, {"start": "00:26:55", "end": "00:27:00", "text": "He scrambled toward the base water tower"}, {"start": "00:26:58", "end": "00:27:02", "text": "and frantically called his family,"}, {"start": "00:27:00", "end": "00:27:04", "text": "shouting, \"Come and get me now. You'll"}, {"start": "00:27:02", "end": "00:27:08", "text": "never believe it. My god, they weren't"}, {"start": "00:27:04", "end": "00:27:11", "text": "human.\" Mononttoya, a man of power and"}, {"start": "00:27:08", "end": "00:27:13", "text": "stature, was reduced to a trembling"}, {"start": "00:27:11", "end": "00:27:17", "text": "wreck by the sight of the small, gray"}, {"start": "00:27:13", "end": "00:27:17", "text": "occupants of the craft."}, {"start": "00:27:18", "end": "00:27:24", "text": "By 6:00 p.m. on July 8th, the focus"}, {"start": "00:27:21", "end": "00:27:26", "text": "shifted to preservation. The decomposing"}, {"start": "00:27:24", "end": "00:27:30", "text": "bodies were moved from the hangar to a"}, {"start": "00:27:26", "end": "00:27:32", "text": "highsecurity temporary morg, a"}, {"start": "00:27:30", "end": "00:27:34", "text": "medium-sized tent surrounded by"}, {"start": "00:27:32", "end": "00:27:36", "text": "chainlink fencing near the base"}, {"start": "00:27:34", "end": "00:27:38", "text": "incinerator."}, {"start": "00:27:36", "end": "00:27:41", "text": "It was here that the final preparations"}, {"start": "00:27:38", "end": "00:27:44", "text": "were made to ship the future human"}, {"start": "00:27:41", "end": "00:27:47", "text": "remains into the deep vaults of military"}, {"start": "00:27:44", "end": "00:27:47", "text": "history."}, {"start": "00:27:48", "end": "00:27:53", "text": "By the time the full retrieval operation"}, {"start": "00:27:50", "end": "00:27:56", "text": "was underway on July 8th, the bodies had"}, {"start": "00:27:53", "end": "00:28:00", "text": "been exposed to the New Mexico sun for"}, {"start": "00:27:56", "end": "00:28:02", "text": "over 5 days. The smell of decomposition"}, {"start": "00:28:00", "end": "00:28:05", "text": "was so overwhelming that the military"}, {"start": "00:28:02", "end": "00:28:07", "text": "moved the remains to a remote area of"}, {"start": "00:28:05", "end": "00:28:10", "text": "the base near the incinerator. They"}, {"start": "00:28:07", "end": "00:28:14", "text": "needed to ensure the pungent odor didn't"}, {"start": "00:28:10", "end": "00:28:17", "text": "permeate the main airfield."}, {"start": "00:28:14", "end": "00:28:19", "text": "It was a grim biological reality of a"}, {"start": "00:28:17", "end": "00:28:22", "text": "crash that the world was told never"}, {"start": "00:28:19", "end": "00:28:22", "text": "happened."}, {"start": "00:28:24", "end": "00:28:30", "text": "At 6:00 a.m. on July 9th, a massive"}, {"start": "00:28:27", "end": "00:28:33", "text": "wooden crate 15 ft long and 5 ft wide"}, {"start": "00:28:30", "end": "00:28:36", "text": "sat under heavy guard atomic bomb pit"}, {"start": "00:28:33", "end": "00:28:39", "text": "number one. The security was"}, {"start": "00:28:36", "end": "00:28:41", "text": "unprecedented. The crate was shielded by"}, {"start": "00:28:39", "end": "00:28:44", "text": "two concentric circles of protective"}, {"start": "00:28:41", "end": "00:28:47", "text": "screens. This wasn't just to hide the"}, {"start": "00:28:44", "end": "00:28:51", "text": "truth from the public. It was to hide it"}, {"start": "00:28:47", "end": "00:28:54", "text": "from the 509th Bomb Group itself. The"}, {"start": "00:28:51", "end": "00:28:56", "text": "military was so terrified of a leak that"}, {"start": "00:28:54", "end": "00:28:58", "text": "they ensured even their own elite"}, {"start": "00:28:56", "end": "00:29:01", "text": "personnel couldn't see what was being"}, {"start": "00:28:58", "end": "00:29:01", "text": "loaded."}, {"start": "00:29:04", "end": "00:29:11", "text": "400 p.m. A B29 Superfortress named"}, {"start": "00:29:08", "end": "00:29:14", "text": "Straight Flush taxied to the pit. Using"}, {"start": "00:29:11", "end": "00:29:17", "text": "a hydraulic lift, the crate containing"}, {"start": "00:29:14", "end": "00:29:20", "text": "the bodies was raised into the bomb bay."}, {"start": "00:29:17", "end": "00:29:23", "text": "As the plane lifted off for Fort Worth,"}, {"start": "00:29:20", "end": "00:29:26", "text": "Texas, crew member Felix Marti was"}, {"start": "00:29:23", "end": "00:29:29", "text": "overheard saying, \"Boys, we just made"}, {"start": "00:29:26", "end": "00:29:32", "text": "history.\" For a flight officially"}, {"start": "00:29:29", "end": "00:29:34", "text": "carrying weather balloon scraps, the"}, {"start": "00:29:32", "end": "00:29:37", "text": "statement was telling."}, {"start": "00:29:34", "end": "00:29:41", "text": "While the bodies were being transported,"}, {"start": "00:29:37", "end": "00:29:41", "text": "the narrative was being rewritten."}, {"start": "00:29:42", "end": "00:29:48", "text": "On July 9th, General Roger Remy"}, {"start": "00:29:45", "end": "00:29:51", "text": "officially emptied the Roswell saucer"}, {"start": "00:29:48", "end": "00:29:54", "text": "story, replacing it with the weather"}, {"start": "00:29:51", "end": "00:29:54", "text": "balloon explanation."}, {"start": "00:29:55", "end": "00:30:00", "text": "But behind the scenes, the investigation"}, {"start": "00:29:57", "end": "00:30:03", "text": "was just beginning."}, {"start": "00:30:00", "end": "00:30:05", "text": "Some of the extraterrestrial material"}, {"start": "00:30:03", "end": "00:30:07", "text": "eventually made its way to Battel"}, {"start": "00:30:05", "end": "00:30:10", "text": "Institute."}, {"start": "00:30:07", "end": "00:30:12", "text": "Sometime after July 9th, a secret"}, {"start": "00:30:10", "end": "00:30:15", "text": "autopsy was performed at the aeromed lab"}, {"start": "00:30:12", "end": "00:30:18", "text": "at Wright Patterson Air Force Base."}, {"start": "00:30:15", "end": "00:30:21", "text": "Meanwhile, back in Roswell, Major Jesse"}, {"start": "00:30:18", "end": "00:30:23", "text": "Marcel and Sheridan Cavitt were"}, {"start": "00:30:21", "end": "00:30:25", "text": "reportedly seen trying to melt a piece"}, {"start": "00:30:23", "end": "00:30:27", "text": "of the indestructible debris over an"}, {"start": "00:30:25", "end": "00:30:30", "text": "open kitchen flame."}, {"start": "00:30:27", "end": "00:30:33", "text": "They failed. The material remained"}, {"start": "00:30:30", "end": "00:30:37", "text": "pristine, a silent witness to a"}, {"start": "00:30:33", "end": "00:30:37", "text": "technology not of this world."}, {"start": "00:30:39", "end": "00:30:44", "text": "The fate of the rancher, M. Brazil,"}, {"start": "00:30:42", "end": "00:30:46", "text": "remains one of the most suspicious"}, {"start": "00:30:44", "end": "00:30:48", "text": "chapters."}, {"start": "00:30:46", "end": "00:30:52", "text": "Before the crash, he drove a rickety,"}, {"start": "00:30:48", "end": "00:30:54", "text": "broken down truck. Days after his"}, {"start": "00:30:52", "end": "00:30:57", "text": "release from military custody, he"}, {"start": "00:30:54", "end": "00:30:59", "text": "suddenly had the funds to purchase a"}, {"start": "00:30:57", "end": "00:31:03", "text": "brand new pickup and move to a new"}, {"start": "00:30:59", "end": "00:31:08", "text": "ranch. The implication was clear. His"}, {"start": "00:31:03", "end": "00:31:08", "text": "silence had been bought. According"}, {"start": "00:31:16", "end": "00:31:22", "text": "to Colonel Philip Corso, the Roswell"}, {"start": "00:31:19", "end": "00:31:26", "text": "wreckage didn't just sit in a vault. It"}, {"start": "00:31:22", "end": "00:31:28", "text": "was seeded into American industry. He"}, {"start": "00:31:26", "end": "00:31:30", "text": "claimed that the Pentagon funneled"}, {"start": "00:31:28", "end": "00:31:34", "text": "fragments of the craft to companies like"}, {"start": "00:31:30", "end": "00:31:38", "text": "IBM, Bell Labs, and Dowo Corning. From"}, {"start": "00:31:34", "end": "00:31:41", "text": "these alien secrets, we saw the rapid"}, {"start": "00:31:38", "end": "00:31:44", "text": "emergence of fiber optics, integrated"}, {"start": "00:31:41", "end": "00:31:46", "text": "circuits, and stealth technology. The"}, {"start": "00:31:44", "end": "00:31:48", "text": "companies were never told the true"}, {"start": "00:31:46", "end": "00:31:50", "text": "origin of the inventions they were"}, {"start": "00:31:48", "end": "00:31:52", "text": "developing."}, {"start": "00:31:50", "end": "00:31:55", "text": "Perhaps the most haunting testimony"}, {"start": "00:31:52", "end": "00:31:59", "text": "comes from Marian Black McGrder, a"}, {"start": "00:31:55", "end": "00:32:02", "text": "legendary World War II ace. In April"}, {"start": "00:31:59", "end": "00:32:06", "text": "1948, McGrder and a select group of"}, {"start": "00:32:02", "end": "00:32:08", "text": "pilots were taken to Wright Patterson."}, {"start": "00:32:06", "end": "00:32:11", "text": "After being shown the debris, they were"}, {"start": "00:32:08", "end": "00:32:14", "text": "led down a long corridor to a room with"}, {"start": "00:32:11", "end": "00:32:18", "text": "a one-way mirror. Inside, they saw a"}, {"start": "00:32:14", "end": "00:32:21", "text": "survivor. McGrder described the entity"}, {"start": "00:32:18", "end": "00:32:24", "text": "as 3 and 1/2 ft tall with a thin"}, {"start": "00:32:21", "end": "00:32:26", "text": "squiggly body."}, {"start": "00:32:24", "end": "00:32:29", "text": "McGrder later confided that while the"}, {"start": "00:32:26", "end": "00:32:32", "text": "world looked to Wright Patterson, the"}, {"start": "00:32:29", "end": "00:32:36", "text": "true remains and the survivor were moved"}, {"start": "00:32:32", "end": "00:32:39", "text": "to vast underground cold storage vaults"}, {"start": "00:32:36", "end": "00:32:42", "text": "at Eglund Air Force Base."}, {"start": "00:32:39", "end": "00:32:46", "text": "The Roswell mystery is far from over,"}, {"start": "00:32:42", "end": "00:32:49", "text": "but we need your help to solve it. We"}, {"start": "00:32:46", "end": "00:32:52", "text": "know the stories. Artifacts hidden in"}, {"start": "00:32:49", "end": "00:32:55", "text": "trunks. memory metal tucked away in"}, {"start": "00:32:52", "end": "00:32:57", "text": "basement and eyewitness accounts passed"}, {"start": "00:32:55", "end": "00:33:00", "text": "down through generations."}, {"start": "00:32:57", "end": "00:33:03", "text": "If you or someone you know is holding on"}, {"start": "00:33:00", "end": "00:33:06", "text": "to a piece of history, the time to come"}, {"start": "00:33:03", "end": "00:33:08", "text": "forward is now. Please contact Blake"}, {"start": "00:33:06", "end": "00:33:12", "text": "Cousins or Michael Shrat at the links"}, {"start": "00:33:08", "end": "00:33:16", "text": "below. Help us bring the greatest case"}, {"start": "00:33:12", "end": "00:33:16", "text": "in history into the light."}, {"start": "00:33:16", "end": "00:33:22", "text": "Enjoyed this deep dive? Smash that like"}, {"start": "00:33:19", "end": "00:33:26", "text": "button, subscribe to Third Phase of"}, {"start": "00:33:22", "end": "00:33:28", "text": "Moon, and hit the notification bell."}, {"start": "00:33:26", "end": "00:33:32", "text": "We're just getting started on exposing"}, {"start": "00:33:28", "end": "00:33:38", "text": "the global UFO coverup. Disclosure is in"}, {"start": "00:33:32", "end": "00:33:38", "text": "our hands. We are not alone."}, {"start": "00:33:42", "end": "00:33:45", "text": "Heat. Heat."}]

[{"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "Welcome back to Third Phase of Moon."}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "You've got Blake Cousins and we've got"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "the special for you tonight. J-Rod"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "escape from Area 51."}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "We're going to go over it in heavy"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "detail. We produced a little documentary"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "with regards to the escape and a"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "follow-up with the late Ron Gardner. He"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "spoke to Dan Bers. We get the breakdown."}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "You're in for a wild ride tonight."}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "Buckle up. Let's get started."}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:40", "text": ">> The descent into mystery."}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "Our story begins in the harsh,"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "sundrrenched desert near Kingman,"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "Arizona in 1953."}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "On a quiet evening, a craft not of this"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "world, or perhaps not of this time, lost"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "stability and plummeted to the earth."}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "When the military recovery teams"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "arrived, they didn't just find wreckage."}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "They found survivors."}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "Of the three entities aboard, one died"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "on impact. A second was whisked away to"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "Los Alamos. But the third, a being that"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "would come to be known as JRod, was"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "transported to the most secretive"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "facility in America, S4, located 12 mi"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "south of Area 51. the prisoner of S4."}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "For over 50 years, J-Rod was kept"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "against his will in the depths of"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "Papoose Mountain. He was housed on level"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "45, the lowest floor of the facility"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "within a massive 52 ft plexiglass clean"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "sphere. The environment was strictly"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "controlled. He required his own"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "pressurized atmosphere with an extra 5%"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "hydrogen just to breathe. The scientists"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "didn't see him as a guest. They called"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "him stumpy and bright eyes, often"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "refusing him even the dignity of"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "clothing. He was a specimen, a"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "biological puzzle to be solved."}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "According to the testimony in the"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "videos, the nicknames Stumpy and Bright"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "Eyes were derogatory labels used by"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "military personnel to dehumanize and"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "mock JRod during his half ccentury of"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "captivity. The presenters suggest that"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "this was part of a broader pattern of"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "harassment and psychological oppression"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "directed at the being."}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "Here is the breakdown of that behavior"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "as described. The nature of the"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "harassment, dehumanization"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "by calling him stumpy, likely due to his"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "3.5 ft height and bright eyes, referring"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "to his large inset black eyes, the"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "military staff reportedly treated him"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "more like a biological anomaly or an"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "animal than an intelligent entity. JRod"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "specifically referred to himself as"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "captive because he felt he was being"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "held as a prisoner of war rather than a"}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "guest. The facility was described as an"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "oppressive society where guards with"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "automatic weapons were present at all"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "times."}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "Deprivation of dignity. One of the most"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "specific points of contention mentioned"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "was the refusal to let J-Rod wear"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "clothes. Despite reportedly requesting"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "them, the military kept him naked for"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "decades, which Ron Gardner described as"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "a crime against science and compared to"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "the treatment of prisoners in modern"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "military scandals, medical exploitation."}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "While Dr. Burish eventually developed a"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "friendship with him. The initial years"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "of their interaction consisted primarily"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "of painful tissue harvesting, nearly 300"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "samples to serve the government's"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "research goals. The personnel behind the"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "treatment. The narrative mentions two"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "different groups with conflicting"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "attitudes toward J-Rod. One, the"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "military helpers portrayed as the"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "primary source of the harassment and"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "name calling. treating J-Rod as a"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "sacrificial lamb and a captive asset."}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "Two, the wise men, three older men in"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "white coats who lived at Area 51"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "permanently. Their role was to maintain"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "professional standards in the facility,"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "and it was noted they were often more"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "respectful, though they still oversaw"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "his confinement. This dynamic creates a"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "picture of a being who was stuck in a"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "high security zoo where he was both a"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "valuable research subject and an object"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "of ridicule for those guarding him. The"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "whistleblowers bond. In the 1990s, a"}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "microbiologist named Dr. Dan Burish was"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "assigned to JRod."}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "His task was grim."}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "He had to take over 300 tissue samples"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "from the being using a pressureinduced"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "needle system."}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "J-Rod suffered from a painful genetic"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "neuropathy and the government wanted his"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "DNA to find a cure. Not for him, but for"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "us."}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "Over time, the cold barrier of the clean"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "sphere began to melt."}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:34", "text": "During their sessions, a friendship"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "formed. It was then that the most"}, {"start": "00:05:34", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "shocking revelation of the story"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "emerged."}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "JRod wasn't just an alien from Zeta"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "Reticuli. He claimed to be a future"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "human."}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "According to the narrative, he had"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "traveled from 52,000 years in our"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "future. a descendant of a human lineage"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "that had survived a great catastrophe"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "and was now suffering the genetic"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "consequences,"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "the great download and the escape."}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "During one session in 1995, the protocol"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "was broken. JRod rushed toward Burish."}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "Startled, the doctor tripped over his"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "own oxygen tank. Instead of attacking,"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "J-Rod climbed onto Burish's chest and"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "initiated a telepathic download of"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "information."}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "This galactic encyclopedia"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "contained the history of our future and"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "the secrets of the universe."}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "By 2003, the time for JRod's departure"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "arrived. He was taken to an ancient site"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "at Abidos, Egypt, where a naturally"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "occurring Stargate was located. In a"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "final act of compassion, despite the"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "heavy military presence, Dr. Burrish"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "thrust JRod's transport stroller into"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "the activated portal. The escape at"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "Abidos, Egypt in 2003 marks the climax"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "of JRod's time on Earth and is described"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "by Dr. Dan Burish has a rogue act of"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "mercy that nearly cost him his life."}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "By 2003, JRod's health was failing"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "significantly due to his genetic"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "neuropathy."}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "The decision was made to transport him"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "from the S4 facility in Nevada to the"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "temple of STI the atbodos."}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "This location was chosen because it"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "allegedly sits a top a natural stargate,"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "a vortex where the fabric of spaceime is"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "thin, which the government reportedly"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:47", "text": "knew how to access using Samrian"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "cylinder seals as blueprints."}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "The stroller and entry protocols."}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "Because JRod could not breathe Earth's"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "atmosphere safely, he had to be"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "transported in a specialized pressurized"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "environment,"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "Burish describes a customuilt"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "stroller-like device that acted as a"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "mobile life support bubble."}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "The atmosphere. The bubble maintained"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "the specific nitrogen, oxygen, hydrogen"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "mix J-Rod required."}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "The gantry to enter the Stargate. A"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "metal catwalk or gantry was used to"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "wheel the stroller toward the shimmering"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "event horizon of the portal. The moment"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "of the escape. The official mission was"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "reportedly for J-Rod to assist in tuning"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "the Stargate or providing data. However,"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "Burish, who had developed a deep"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "telepathic bond with the entity, knew"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "JRod was desperate to return to his"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "family. The action. As they approached"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "the center of the Stargate, Burrish"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "suddenly broke protocol. He forcefully"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "thrust the stroller forward, pushing"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "JRod directly into the portal's center."}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "The rejection. The Stargate accepted"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "JRod, but physically violently rejected"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "Burish. He was thrown backward by a"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "massive discharge of energy as the"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "portal collapsed."}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "The aftermath. J-Rod successfully"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "returned to his home system, Zeta"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "Reticuli, but Burish faced immediate and"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "severe consequences."}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "Military retribution."}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "Burish was detained and interrogated. He"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "claims he was nearly executed for his"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "actions, but was spared due to his"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "highlevel status and the protection of"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "certain MJ12 members like Admiral Mike"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:44", "text": "McConnell. He views JRod's return as the"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "fulfillment of that sign. That home for"}, {"start": "00:09:44", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "an extraterrestrial isn't just a place,"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "but a return to their own time and"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "space."}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "The legacy of the Traveler. JRod"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "vanished into the light. Finally"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "returning to his home 15 light years"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "away. He left behind a warning of"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "convergent timelines, a reminder that"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "our future is not yet set in stone."}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "While the government continues to guard"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "the secrets of S4, the story of JRod"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "remains a haunting testament to a"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "visitor who was a prisoner of our"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "present, but a child of our future."}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "JRod, entity EBE532,"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "was identified as a P52,"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "a future human from 52,000 years ahead."}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "The name J is the 10th letter of the"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "alphabet. The rod bar is the Mayan"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "symbol for five. Together they represent"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "15, the light years he traveled to get"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "here. The technology the story involves"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "project looking glass, a device used to"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "see into future probable events."}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:00", "text": ">> Can you tell our listeners right, you"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "know, from the beginning, let's get to"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "Area 51."}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:05", "text": ">> The bodies are these."}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:07", "text": ">> That's that's a good idea. That's where"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "everything is. It's really important."}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "It's Area 51 S4 though. It's not Area 51"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "proper. That's what people get mixed up"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "about that. S4 is where they take all"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "the hot stuff. It's about 15 miles"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "southwest of Groom Lake proper in"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "Papoose Mountain. It's five different"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:30", "text": "levels and uh those levels are uh where"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "all they keep all the super secret"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "stuff. The craft are there. There's nine"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "craft there. The uh ET people both live"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "and dead are there. Uh Dr. Dan Burish,"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "who's the main trust of what I've been"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "researching for the last 10 years,"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:51", "text": "worked there on and off for 10 years. Uh"}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "your listeners probably know about Bob"}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "Lazar. Uh Bob Lazar worked there maybe"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "three and a half months. So the big"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "difference there. But uh as a journalist"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "and a documentary filmmaker when I"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "interview people I make sure that I have"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "at least two and preferably three"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "collaborations."}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "Uh so with the Dan Burish and Bob Lazar"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "and Bill u the three people who actually"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "worked at Area 51 S4. So I have that"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "cooperation"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "uh from all three of them. I have them"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "on my videos. I I've interviewed Dr."}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "been buries for over a 100 hours on"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "camera. I've interviewed him 100 hours"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "off camera. He's almost like my stepson."}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "I've been involved with his story. Two"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "books that I've written and a third one"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "with his parents. So, I know what's at"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "Area 51. I know uh why the people are"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "there and how long they've been there. I"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "know all of that. So,"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "I always mention to UFO researchers to"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:13:02", "text": "target your UFO freedom of information"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "at Area 51 S4. That's where the the uh"}, {"start": "00:13:02", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "tissue samples of the ED people are."}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "That's where all the films are. That's"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "where all the audio is. uh we have"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "hundreds of hours of our scientists"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "working with uh the particular one that"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "I'm focusing on is J Rod"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "J-Rod. That's a code name that the"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "military people gave this particular"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "being who uh crash landed near Kingman,"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "Arizona in 1953."}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "There were either three or four beings"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "that were on the ship. I think it was"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "three, but I've heard four. uh two or"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "three of them were taken to were taken"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "to Los Alamos, but the one that I'm"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "focusing on here uh that particular J"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "rod was taken to Area 51 S4. He was kept"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "captive there for over 50 years"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "and at the at the fifth level down at"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "Area 51 S4 under Papu's Mountain."}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "Now,"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "uh I can flesh that out more. or do you"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "have any questions you want to pose at"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "this point or uh should I just continue?"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:15", "text": ">> You know, actually I I before we were"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "talking, you mentioned a difference"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "between aliens and ETSs,"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "extraterrestrials. Can you tell all the"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "listeners about that?"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:29", "text": ">> Yes, I'd be happy to. Uh the main"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "difference or the difference is that uh"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "when Dr. Dan Bur talks about"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "extraterrestrials, he said, \"I never met"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "an alien, but I have met an"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "extraterrestrial.\" I asked him a hund"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "times what's the difference and his"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "response is that the ET person is a real"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "person. It's a person from the future."}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "It has a very similar genome to humans"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "alive today. Uh you know two arms, two"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "legs, large head, wraparound eyes and so"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "forth. But a alien from his point of"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "view and now my point of view because I"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "am uh focusing on what he says is a"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "being from another star system that has"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "no genetic linkage to the human race."}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "I don't know if you have that image from"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "the Genia case where there's an actual"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "from my humble import you know opinion"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "that that's an actual alien has it has a"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "red eyes uh has pupes on the head and uh"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "I went there six years ago with Dr."}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "Roger Lear to try and interview the"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "orthopedic surgeon that operated on that"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "what I consider an alien. Uh because Dr."}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "Roger Le"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "had talked to this particular orthopedic"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "surgeon prior to our going down there"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "and at that time the first interview he"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "said that this that there was tissue"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:59", "text": "samples taken there was uh he had a"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:16:03", "text": "broken leg so there was uh actual x-rays"}, {"start": "00:15:59", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "of the being and so on my long list of"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "things to do I want to compare the"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "genome of that what we call an alien"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "uh in the varia case which is like the"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "the Roswell of Brazil. It's a major"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "case. I've written a book on it. I've"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "got a documentary"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "uh with Dr. Roger Lear and compare that"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "genome with the genome of the JROD. On"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "my site right now, area51jrod.com,"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "right at the top, you can see uh it says"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "Q94 document. Well, that Q94 document is"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "Dr. Dan Burish, uh, one of the best"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "microbiologists on the planet."}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "Uh, the Q stands for his clear his"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "clearance, his security clearance. And"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:56", "text": "94 is when he wrote that that particular"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "document. And that document was leaked"}, {"start": "00:16:56", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "to someone on the inside of Area 51 S4"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "out to"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "Dr. Burish's now wife, Marcia McDow."}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "and uh then she leaked it to Bill"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "Hamilton. Bill Hamilton and I were"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:16", "text": "researching Area 51. He gave me that"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "information. So that document is on my"}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "site. You can download it. And I'm"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "hoping at some point that um"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "uh that we can actually compare these"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "two. The particular scientist in Brazil"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "is reluctant to come forward, but Dr."}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:34", "text": "Roger Lear and I have sort of a a game"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "plan that we may be able to get that"}, {"start": "00:17:34", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "information."}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "Uh that being uh crashed in in Brazil in"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "1996"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "and uh there was at least two and maybe"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "three creatures there uh in Brazil. The"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "fire department is a part of the"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "military. It isn't separated like it is"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "here. So, the fire department captured"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "one of these aliens in a net and put it"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "in a box on the back of their truck. The"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "military rolls up uh with the guns and"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "say, \"We want to take control of it,\""}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:10", "text": "which they did,"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "and took it to a small hospital near"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "where they were that wasn't adequate."}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "Then they took it to a major hospital."}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "And uh when they took the the being into"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "the operating room because it had a a"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:34", "text": "major compound fracture,"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "the military put guards both on the"}, {"start": "00:18:34", "end": "00:18:39", "text": "inside of the door and the outside of"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "the door"}, {"start": "00:18:39", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "and uh major things happened within the"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "room. Uh the room sort of filled with a"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "green mist."}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "uh the orthopedic surgeon set the the"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "compound fracture with the beam"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "and had kind of a download of"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "information. I don't have exactly what"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "the being said to the orthopedic"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "surgeon, but Dr. Rear has some Dr. Leer"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "has some of that information."}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "And the the uh the military people that"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "were there just told or the big surgeon,"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "he just said, \"Fix it.\" Just a demand."}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "And of course the orthopedic surgeon"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:21", "text": "didn't know what this was all about. It"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "came out later and but the the being"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:27", "text": "healed itself. It took about 24 hours"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:29", "text": "and the bone totally healed itself. They"}, {"start": "00:19:27", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "had that capability. So that that that's"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:35", "text": "an alien. Now I can tell you more about"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "the JROD which is uh part of the human"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "family in the future and that's a major"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "part of this story which most people"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "don't get. When you see these UFOs"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:48", "text": "flying around, they're flying time"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:51", "text": "machines. They warp spaceime."}, {"start": "00:19:48", "end": "00:19:53", "text": "And that's why when people fire at them,"}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "uh there's no result because you're"}, {"start": "00:19:53", "end": "00:19:58", "text": "you're going into another dimension and"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "that dimension uh nullifies whatever"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "armaments that we shoot at them."}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "No, that's a theory that I believe in"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:07", "text": "that they these flying saucers, these"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "aliens are, you know, maybe humans from"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "the future traveling back in time to"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "visit, you know, our present day. I want"}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:15", "text": "to ask you a couple questions. Let's"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "start with this one. Why do you think"}, {"start": "00:20:15", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "they named the LMJ-Rod?"}, {"start": "00:20:19", "end": "00:20:23", "text": ">> Why did they name him that you said?"}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:24", "text": ">> Yes. Any maybe uh you know reasoning"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "behind that?"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:31", "text": ">> The code name? Yeah, it's a when uh this"}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:33", "text": "particular his real name is Kao. Uh that"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "was held secret for a long time, but now"}, {"start": "00:20:33", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "it's out. His real name is Kayla. And"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "when he crashed near Kingman, Arizona in"}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:44", "text": "1953,"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "uh the military has a unit called the"}, {"start": "00:20:44", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "Sigma unit. And these are linguists and"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "psychologists that are able to interact"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:57", "text": "with these beings that come here. And so"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:21:02", "text": "they are able to uh translate whatever"}, {"start": "00:20:57", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "language the beings uh project to the"}, {"start": "00:21:02", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "humans and you know back and forth. In"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:11", "text": "the in the initial stages, the J rod"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "pointed to the 10th letter on the"}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "keyboard which is a J and also pointed"}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:23", "text": "to a barcode which is just a bar which"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "is an Egyptian Mayan symbol for five. So"}, {"start": "00:21:23", "end": "00:21:27", "text": "naturally whenever a human talks to"}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "another human, where are you from? Well,"}, {"start": "00:21:27", "end": "00:21:32", "text": "I'm from Kansas City. I'm from New York."}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "Well, so they asked this particular"}, {"start": "00:21:32", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "being, where are you from? And he said"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "15, 10 and five for 15 15 light years"}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:45", "text": "from uh planet Earth. And his home base"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:48", "text": "was on Zeta Reticuli, which ties in and"}, {"start": "00:21:45", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "cooperates the Betty of Barney Hill"}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "story because they the beings that u"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:57", "text": "abducted Betty and Barney Hill said the"}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "same thing. and uh Betty Hill"}, {"start": "00:21:57", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "uh when she was hypnotized and given um"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "instructions to uh explain uh where this"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "beam was from and another woman"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:14", "text": "constructed a 3D image of it and she"}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "didn't know astronomy and lo and behold"}, {"start": "00:22:14", "end": "00:22:20", "text": "they found out that this exists that"}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "this uh uh zeta reticuli there's there's"}, {"start": "00:22:20", "end": "00:22:27", "text": "two binary star system. So uh then"}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:30", "text": "there's a there's I'm told by my"}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:32", "text": "research that there is like a there's a"}, {"start": "00:22:30", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "halfway point between zeta reticuli and"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:38", "text": "planet earth. There's like a jump gate"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "there. So they assemble there and then"}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:45", "text": "come to earth."}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "So uh I know people that study this um"}, {"start": "00:22:45", "end": "00:22:49", "text": "are it's very controversial about this"}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:51", "text": "and because that's what most people say."}, {"start": "00:22:49", "end": "00:22:53", "text": "They're so far away they can't get here."}, {"start": "00:22:51", "end": "00:22:55", "text": "Mishokaku"}, {"start": "00:22:53", "end": "00:22:57", "text": "has said on numerous occasions that"}, {"start": "00:22:55", "end": "00:23:01", "text": "don't wait a minute, they can fold"}, {"start": "00:22:57", "end": "00:23:04", "text": "spaceime. It isn't a linear uh journey"}, {"start": "00:23:01", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "and uh there's a wonderful TV program"}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:09", "text": "called wormholes"}, {"start": "00:23:06", "end": "00:23:11", "text": "and uh sliders. And so Hollywood's"}, {"start": "00:23:09", "end": "00:23:13", "text": "gotten on board this thing. I'm really"}, {"start": "00:23:11", "end": "00:23:15", "text": "pleased with that because they're"}, {"start": "00:23:13", "end": "00:23:18", "text": "conditioning the people about how these"}, {"start": "00:23:15", "end": "00:23:21", "text": "beings travel uh earth time and come"}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "here and they're coming here in droves."}, {"start": "00:23:21", "end": "00:23:27", "text": "I only know of four for sure but the"}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:30", "text": "literature has 57 or you know maybeund"}, {"start": "00:23:27", "end": "00:23:33", "text": "and some"}, {"start": "00:23:30", "end": "00:23:35", "text": "but I can only uh from my information uh"}, {"start": "00:23:33", "end": "00:23:38", "text": "address the four that I know about. You"}, {"start": "00:23:35", "end": "00:23:40", "text": "know, Ron, I wanted to ask you about"}, {"start": "00:23:38", "end": "00:23:42", "text": "some of the technology that we received."}, {"start": "00:23:40", "end": "00:23:45", "text": "Obviously, this boom of technology in"}, {"start": "00:23:42", "end": "00:23:48", "text": "civilian hands could can be attributed"}, {"start": "00:23:45", "end": "00:23:50", "text": "to, you know, ET crashes and what we've"}, {"start": "00:23:48", "end": "00:23:52", "text": "done with them. I wanted to ask you what"}, {"start": "00:23:50", "end": "00:23:54", "text": "the difference between yellow book and"}, {"start": "00:23:52", "end": "00:23:57", "text": "looking glass. And before I do that,"}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:23:59", "text": "also I heard a nice theory that says we"}, {"start": "00:23:57", "end": "00:24:01", "text": "did find weapons of mass destruction"}, {"start": "00:23:59", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "when we went to Iraq, but it wasn't"}, {"start": "00:24:01", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "nuclear or chemical weapons. It was"}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:07", "text": "actually project looking glass which"}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:09", "text": "could be a Stargate. Can you tell our"}, {"start": "00:24:07", "end": "00:24:12", "text": "listeners about that?"}, {"start": "00:24:09", "end": "00:24:14", "text": ">> Uh yes I can. What the Dr. Burish has"}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:18", "text": "told me it's in my videos it's on the"}, {"start": "00:24:14", "end": "00:24:22", "text": "website in the store store area is that"}, {"start": "00:24:18", "end": "00:24:24", "text": "when uh Sodom Hussein was creating all"}, {"start": "00:24:22", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "the problems um I don't know if people"}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:32", "text": "really noticed but uh where the green"}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:35", "text": "zone is Saddam Hussein had created a"}, {"start": "00:24:32", "end": "00:24:39", "text": "theme park there a Sumerian theme park"}, {"start": "00:24:35", "end": "00:24:41", "text": "with all kinds of structures"}, {"start": "00:24:39", "end": "00:24:43", "text": "uh and what I'm told from my research is"}, {"start": "00:24:41", "end": "00:24:48", "text": "that he had"}, {"start": "00:24:43", "end": "00:24:50", "text": "uh a devices that could u actually"}, {"start": "00:24:48", "end": "00:24:54", "text": "teleport people from different one"}, {"start": "00:24:50", "end": "00:24:56", "text": "dimension to another. It's not the the"}, {"start": "00:24:54", "end": "00:24:58", "text": "looking glass proper. The looking glass"}, {"start": "00:24:56", "end": "00:25:00", "text": "has that capability."}, {"start": "00:24:58", "end": "00:25:02", "text": "Uh but this is a different kind of"}, {"start": "00:25:00", "end": "00:25:05", "text": "device."}, {"start": "00:25:02", "end": "00:25:09", "text": "And when our if the your listeners will"}, {"start": "00:25:05", "end": "00:25:14", "text": "realize when our military uh units went"}, {"start": "00:25:09", "end": "00:25:16", "text": "into Iraq in 5 in 93 I mean at 103"}, {"start": "00:25:14", "end": "00:25:19", "text": "uh the first place they went to was the"}, {"start": "00:25:16", "end": "00:25:22", "text": "Baghdad museum and they didn't blow the"}, {"start": "00:25:19", "end": "00:25:24", "text": "doors. They had actual explosives. I"}, {"start": "00:25:22", "end": "00:25:25", "text": "mean they had a key actual had keys."}, {"start": "00:25:24", "end": "00:25:28", "text": "They didn't have they didn't need"}, {"start": "00:25:25", "end": "00:25:30", "text": "explosives. And we wanted to get those"}, {"start": "00:25:28", "end": "00:25:33", "text": "devices that Saddam Hussein had stored"}, {"start": "00:25:30", "end": "00:25:35", "text": "there because our that's one of the big"}, {"start": "00:25:33", "end": "00:25:37", "text": "things that's going on. We had to"}, {"start": "00:25:35", "end": "00:25:41", "text": "disassemble"}, {"start": "00:25:37", "end": "00:25:43", "text": "uh these devices because there's as our"}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:45", "text": "uh solar system goes through the plane"}, {"start": "00:25:43", "end": "00:25:49", "text": "of the galactic it triggers certain"}, {"start": "00:25:45", "end": "00:25:52", "text": "things in the dust cloud. So uh we found"}, {"start": "00:25:49", "end": "00:25:56", "text": "out that Saddam Hussein had given some"}, {"start": "00:25:52", "end": "00:25:58", "text": "of this technology to Moar Kaddafi. So,"}, {"start": "00:25:56", "end": "00:26:00", "text": "our military went to and talked to Moar"}, {"start": "00:25:58", "end": "00:26:02", "text": "Gaddafi and said, \"Uh, you know those"}, {"start": "00:26:00", "end": "00:26:05", "text": "things that Sodom gave you? Well, you"}, {"start": "00:26:02", "end": "00:26:08", "text": "saw what happened to him. We'll forgive"}, {"start": "00:26:05", "end": "00:26:10", "text": "you what happened in Lockabe 800 and"}, {"start": "00:26:08", "end": "00:26:12", "text": "make you richer than you could ever"}, {"start": "00:26:10", "end": "00:26:17", "text": "imagine, but you need to give us that"}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:20", "text": "that uh those devices.\" And Gaddafi, he"}, {"start": "00:26:17", "end": "00:26:24", "text": "was a very smart person and and handed"}, {"start": "00:26:20", "end": "00:26:25", "text": "it over. So, uh, that's that's back"}, {"start": "00:26:24", "end": "00:26:27", "text": "during during the network."}, {"start": "00:26:25", "end": "00:26:28", "text": ">> We are going on a break. All you"}, {"start": "00:26:27", "end": "00:26:30", "text": "listeners out there, stay tuned. We'll"}, {"start": "00:26:28", "end": "00:26:33", "text": "be right back in a short minute just to"}, {"start": "00:26:30", "end": "00:26:35", "text": "take continue where we are. That's"}, {"start": "00:26:33", "end": "00:26:37", "text": "right. We are back live on air. Third"}, {"start": "00:26:35", "end": "00:26:39", "text": "phase of the moon radio here on"}, {"start": "00:26:37", "end": "00:26:40", "text": "Revolution Radio. Uh, just before we"}, {"start": "00:26:39", "end": "00:26:42", "text": "continue on with our guest, just a"}, {"start": "00:26:40", "end": "00:26:45", "text": "reminder for everybody, next week, next"}, {"start": "00:26:42", "end": "00:26:47", "text": "Thursday, 5:16, we have Ivonne Smith."}, {"start": "00:26:45", "end": "00:26:50", "text": "The 23rd, Robert Sales, the 30th, Dr."}, {"start": "00:26:47", "end": "00:26:52", "text": "Greer. Also, make sure you check out uh"}, {"start": "00:26:50", "end": "00:26:54", "text": "Alien Human Project, a featurelength"}, {"start": "00:26:52", "end": "00:26:56", "text": "film on Dr. Leer, produced by the"}, {"start": "00:26:54", "end": "00:26:58", "text": "Cousins Brothers and myself, yours"}, {"start": "00:26:56", "end": "00:27:01", "text": "truly, on Third Phase of Moon at"}, {"start": "00:26:58", "end": "00:27:03", "text": "YouTube. And our guest Ron Gardner has a"}, {"start": "00:27:01", "end": "00:27:05", "text": "disclosure website. Everybody out there"}, {"start": "00:27:03", "end": "00:27:08", "text": "listening, check it out. It's"}, {"start": "00:27:05", "end": "00:27:08", "text": "www.eraf51jrod.com."}, {"start": "00:27:10", "end": "00:27:16", "text": "Area 51jrod.com."}, {"start": "00:27:13", "end": "00:27:18", "text": "Now, uh Mr. Garner. Right before we uh"}, {"start": "00:27:16", "end": "00:27:20", "text": "went to the break, we were talking about"}, {"start": "00:27:18", "end": "00:27:23", "text": "how Saddam gave the technology to"}, {"start": "00:27:20", "end": "00:27:25", "text": "Gaddafi and how we went to Gaddafi and"}, {"start": "00:27:23", "end": "00:27:27", "text": "told him to uh look what happened to"}, {"start": "00:27:25", "end": "00:27:28", "text": "Saddam. Can we pick up where we left"}, {"start": "00:27:27", "end": "00:27:30", "text": "off?"}, {"start": "00:27:28", "end": "00:27:34", "text": ">> Yeah, he was he was he was pretty smart"}, {"start": "00:27:30", "end": "00:27:36", "text": "in that way. Um but your listeners or"}, {"start": "00:27:34", "end": "00:27:38", "text": "viewers, if they can go to my website"}, {"start": "00:27:36", "end": "00:27:40", "text": "and check out the JROD EBE, there's a"}, {"start": "00:27:38", "end": "00:27:44", "text": "links to it and explains it in great"}, {"start": "00:27:40", "end": "00:27:46", "text": "detail. Uh, but I like to we could"}, {"start": "00:27:44", "end": "00:27:50", "text": "continue with this part of it, but I"}, {"start": "00:27:46", "end": "00:27:54", "text": "think we need to uh address Area 51 a"}, {"start": "00:27:50", "end": "00:27:56", "text": "little bit more because that's where uh"}, {"start": "00:27:54", "end": "00:27:58", "text": "I'm going to have I don't have it right"}, {"start": "00:27:56", "end": "00:28:02", "text": "now. I have some of it. I'll have actual"}, {"start": "00:27:58", "end": "00:28:05", "text": "3D depictions of the most secret part of"}, {"start": "00:28:02", "end": "00:28:07", "text": "the most secret base in the world."}, {"start": "00:28:05", "end": "00:28:11", "text": "Now, I I've I've been studying this"}, {"start": "00:28:07", "end": "00:28:13", "text": "subject for over 30 years, and I've been"}, {"start": "00:28:11", "end": "00:28:16", "text": "working with this Dan Bur story for 10"}, {"start": "00:28:13", "end": "00:28:18", "text": "years. So, I'm amazed that I've gotten"}, {"start": "00:28:16", "end": "00:28:22", "text": "all this information. So, what that"}, {"start": "00:28:18", "end": "00:28:24", "text": "means to the euphological community is"}, {"start": "00:28:22", "end": "00:28:26", "text": "that people on the inside want this"}, {"start": "00:28:24", "end": "00:28:28", "text": "information out. Otherwise, I wouldn't"}, {"start": "00:28:26", "end": "00:28:30", "text": "have all this information. I wouldn't"}, {"start": "00:28:28", "end": "00:28:33", "text": "have 3D depictions of the most secret"}, {"start": "00:28:30", "end": "00:28:35", "text": "part of the base. So, uh, you know, Bob"}, {"start": "00:28:33", "end": "00:28:37", "text": "Lazar when he came out, I was in Las"}, {"start": "00:28:35", "end": "00:28:40", "text": "Vegas when he got that first interview"}, {"start": "00:28:37", "end": "00:28:45", "text": "in '89. That's what really jinned up my"}, {"start": "00:28:40", "end": "00:28:47", "text": "interest in Area 51 because uh I knew"}, {"start": "00:28:45", "end": "00:28:49", "text": "that I knew John Leer is a good friend"}, {"start": "00:28:47", "end": "00:28:53", "text": "of mine and he absolutely backed"}, {"start": "00:28:49", "end": "00:28:56", "text": "everything that Bob Lazar said. So, I"}, {"start": "00:28:53", "end": "00:29:00", "text": "know in Eupold communities they uh kind"}, {"start": "00:28:56", "end": "00:29:02", "text": "of look a scance at Bob Lazar, but he he"}, {"start": "00:29:00", "end": "00:29:04", "text": "was right on the money. Uh"}, {"start": "00:29:02", "end": "00:29:07", "text": ">> I want to ask you I want to ask you Ray"}, {"start": "00:29:04", "end": "00:29:09", "text": "about these 3D uh renditions. Would we"}, {"start": "00:29:07", "end": "00:29:11", "text": "be able to uh get the material from you,"}, {"start": "00:29:09", "end": "00:29:13", "text": "you know, some products so we could, you"}, {"start": "00:29:11", "end": "00:29:15", "text": "know, get it out to third phase of"}, {"start": "00:29:13", "end": "00:29:16", "text": "viewers uh worldwide? How are you going"}, {"start": "00:29:15", "end": "00:29:19", "text": "to be able to uh"}, {"start": "00:29:16", "end": "00:29:21", "text": ">> Well, if it can be, we we have to"}, {"start": "00:29:19", "end": "00:29:23", "text": "convert it. I have some of it uh ready"}, {"start": "00:29:21", "end": "00:29:26", "text": "to go. I haven't put it up on the site"}, {"start": "00:29:23", "end": "00:29:27", "text": "yet, but uh that's a possibility in the"}, {"start": "00:29:26", "end": "00:29:29", "text": "future. Yes, we can do this."}, {"start": "00:29:27", "end": "00:29:32", "text": ">> That would be absolutely amazing. I want"}, {"start": "00:29:29", "end": "00:29:34", "text": "to get back to you know JRod again. I"}, {"start": "00:29:32", "end": "00:29:36", "text": "feel sorry for the you know the being"}, {"start": "00:29:34", "end": "00:29:36", "text": "himself. Let me ask you, he was in"}, {"start": "00:29:36", "end": "00:29:39", "text": "prison."}, {"start": "00:29:36", "end": "00:29:41", "text": ">> Yeah, I do too. I felt sorry for him."}, {"start": "00:29:39", "end": "00:29:44", "text": ">> How was he treated at Area 51? Was he"}, {"start": "00:29:41", "end": "00:29:47", "text": "treated like a criminal or was or was he"}, {"start": "00:29:44", "end": "00:29:48", "text": "continuously you know as an abductee"}, {"start": "00:29:47", "end": "00:29:50", "text": "would have to go through a lot of"}, {"start": "00:29:48", "end": "00:29:52", "text": "traumatic experience being probing"}, {"start": "00:29:50", "end": "00:29:55", "text": "things along these lines did the"}, {"start": "00:29:52", "end": "00:29:58", "text": "basically they reversed it on him."}, {"start": "00:29:55", "end": "00:30:02", "text": ">> Well the he actually came here he from"}, {"start": "00:29:58", "end": "00:30:05", "text": "Zeticuli as a sacrificial lamb. He came"}, {"start": "00:30:02", "end": "00:30:07", "text": "here to have his genomic structure"}, {"start": "00:30:05", "end": "00:30:09", "text": "changed because he had a neuropathy"}, {"start": "00:30:07", "end": "00:30:13", "text": "disease. It's very painful. a friend of"}, {"start": "00:30:09", "end": "00:30:15", "text": "mine has had it. And so he came here so"}, {"start": "00:30:13", "end": "00:30:18", "text": "that our scientists could change his"}, {"start": "00:30:15", "end": "00:30:20", "text": "genome which will then change us in the"}, {"start": "00:30:18", "end": "00:30:22", "text": "future and we won't have this terrible"}, {"start": "00:30:20", "end": "00:30:24", "text": "disease. Now they weren't totally"}, {"start": "00:30:22", "end": "00:30:26", "text": "successful. They were partially"}, {"start": "00:30:24", "end": "00:30:29", "text": "successful"}, {"start": "00:30:26", "end": "00:30:33", "text": "and but they kept him on the Sith level"}, {"start": "00:30:29", "end": "00:30:35", "text": "down in below Papoose Mountain and he"}, {"start": "00:30:33", "end": "00:30:37", "text": "called himself captive because that's"}, {"start": "00:30:35", "end": "00:30:42", "text": "what they that's what how he felt"}, {"start": "00:30:37", "end": "00:30:43", "text": "because uh he wasn't allowed to uh to"}, {"start": "00:30:42", "end": "00:30:47", "text": "interact with his fellows if they came"}, {"start": "00:30:43", "end": "00:30:51", "text": "to visit him and so forth. And he had to"}, {"start": "00:30:47", "end": "00:30:55", "text": "have uh a special atmosphere with normal"}, {"start": "00:30:51", "end": "00:30:58", "text": "oxygen and nitrogen but with about 5%"}, {"start": "00:30:55", "end": "00:31:01", "text": "extra hydrogen because his lungs needed"}, {"start": "00:30:58", "end": "00:31:05", "text": "that extra hydrogen to function. So they"}, {"start": "00:31:01", "end": "00:31:08", "text": "had him there. He was interrogated."}, {"start": "00:31:05", "end": "00:31:10", "text": "Uh our military called him names, called"}, {"start": "00:31:08", "end": "00:31:13", "text": "him Stumpy and Bride Eyes and sort of"}, {"start": "00:31:10", "end": "00:31:15", "text": "made fun of him. And but the main thing"}, {"start": "00:31:13", "end": "00:31:18", "text": "and it really irritates me is that they"}, {"start": "00:31:15", "end": "00:31:21", "text": "would not allow him to have clothes."}, {"start": "00:31:18", "end": "00:31:23", "text": "Now think of Abu Grae and you know what"}, {"start": "00:31:21", "end": "00:31:27", "text": "what's happening in Guantanamo."}, {"start": "00:31:23", "end": "00:31:29", "text": "Uh our military mindset is is just I"}, {"start": "00:31:27", "end": "00:31:32", "text": "just can't understand it. He wanted to"}, {"start": "00:31:29", "end": "00:31:34", "text": "wear clothes but he wasn't allowed to."}, {"start": "00:31:32", "end": "00:31:37", "text": "But that allowed Dr. Van Burish when he"}, {"start": "00:31:34", "end": "00:31:41", "text": "was taking the over 300 nearly 300"}, {"start": "00:31:37", "end": "00:31:43", "text": "tissue samples in the 94 95 time frame"}, {"start": "00:31:41", "end": "00:31:47", "text": "they were able he was able to actually"}, {"start": "00:31:43", "end": "00:31:49", "text": "see the genitalia of this being which I"}, {"start": "00:31:47", "end": "00:31:54", "text": "have that up on my site I have a drawing"}, {"start": "00:31:49", "end": "00:31:56", "text": "of uh the the JRod's uh genitalia now"}, {"start": "00:31:54", "end": "00:31:59", "text": "nobody has that information"}, {"start": "00:31:56", "end": "00:32:02", "text": "uh they had internal fertilization"}, {"start": "00:31:59", "end": "00:32:06", "text": "they u you know had eliminations similar"}, {"start": "00:32:02", "end": "00:32:08", "text": "to humans. The only thing is they had to"}, {"start": "00:32:06", "end": "00:32:12", "text": "they had to be hydrated. They were"}, {"start": "00:32:08", "end": "00:32:15", "text": "drinking liquid all the time."}, {"start": "00:32:12", "end": "00:32:19", "text": "So that was a a a major part of the way"}, {"start": "00:32:15", "end": "00:32:23", "text": "they were uh handling him. And uh when"}, {"start": "00:32:19", "end": "00:32:26", "text": "Dr. Burish uh I need to get into this"}, {"start": "00:32:23", "end": "00:32:29", "text": "because this explains a lot. In 95 he"}, {"start": "00:32:26", "end": "00:32:32", "text": "had been working with this JROD for two"}, {"start": "00:32:29", "end": "00:32:34", "text": "years uh taking tissue samples. He had a"}, {"start": "00:32:32", "end": "00:32:36", "text": "special pins gun that the tissue and"}, {"start": "00:32:34", "end": "00:32:40", "text": "it's on my site. All of this you can see"}, {"start": "00:32:36", "end": "00:32:42", "text": "this on my site and the tissue would be"}, {"start": "00:32:40", "end": "00:32:46", "text": "re extracted from the nerve uh of the"}, {"start": "00:32:42", "end": "00:32:49", "text": "upper appendage of the J-Rod person. So"}, {"start": "00:32:46", "end": "00:32:51", "text": "for then in 95 after two years of"}, {"start": "00:32:49", "end": "00:32:53", "text": "interacting for the first time in two"}, {"start": "00:32:51", "end": "00:32:57", "text": "years the J-Rod took a step toward Dr."}, {"start": "00:32:53", "end": "00:32:59", "text": "Dan Burice the military microbiologist."}, {"start": "00:32:57", "end": "00:33:01", "text": "This shocked Dr. Burice. He considered"}, {"start": "00:32:59", "end": "00:33:04", "text": "him a friend. But at the same time, that"}, {"start": "00:33:01", "end": "00:33:05", "text": "movement uh startled him. He stepped"}, {"start": "00:33:04", "end": "00:33:08", "text": "back, caught his heel on the graded"}, {"start": "00:33:05", "end": "00:33:11", "text": "floor of the clean sphere. And at the"}, {"start": "00:33:08", "end": "00:33:14", "text": "top of my site, you can see a 3D drawing"}, {"start": "00:33:11", "end": "00:33:16", "text": "of the cleat sphere. And the J-Rod"}, {"start": "00:33:14", "end": "00:33:18", "text": "didn't jump on him, but he sort of"}, {"start": "00:33:16", "end": "00:33:20", "text": "waddled over to him and climbed up on"}, {"start": "00:33:18", "end": "00:33:23", "text": "his chest and downloaded all this"}, {"start": "00:33:20", "end": "00:33:27", "text": "information into Dr. Dan Bur's crane."}, {"start": "00:33:23", "end": "00:33:28", "text": "Burish was his name. Uh Crane was his"}, {"start": "00:33:27", "end": "00:33:30", "text": "given name at birth. He's gone back to"}, {"start": "00:33:28", "end": "00:33:34", "text": "that."}, {"start": "00:33:30", "end": "00:33:37", "text": "And so the military people at Area 51 S4"}, {"start": "00:33:34", "end": "00:33:39", "text": "kind of joke that that the JROD"}, {"start": "00:33:37", "end": "00:33:42", "text": "downloaded the Galactic Encyclopedia"}, {"start": "00:33:39", "end": "00:33:44", "text": "under Dr. Dan Burish."}, {"start": "00:33:42", "end": "00:33:46", "text": "And so people say, well, what what was a"}, {"start": "00:33:44", "end": "00:33:48", "text": "part of that? And part of it was a book"}, {"start": "00:33:46", "end": "00:33:51", "text": "that he wrote. Dr. Dan Burish wrote a"}, {"start": "00:33:48", "end": "00:33:55", "text": "book called Egos Disobey Inca City,"}, {"start": "00:33:51", "end": "00:33:58", "text": "which is all about a city on Mars."}, {"start": "00:33:55", "end": "00:34:01", "text": "So, uh, in our future, we're going to"}, {"start": "00:33:58", "end": "00:34:03", "text": "Mars. I know, uh, President Obama said"}, {"start": "00:34:01", "end": "00:34:05", "text": "we're not going to, but according to my"}, {"start": "00:34:03", "end": "00:34:07", "text": "information, and we are going to Mars,"}, {"start": "00:34:05", "end": "00:34:10", "text": "and maybe we're even there now. That's a"}, {"start": "00:34:07", "end": "00:34:11", "text": "whole another discussion which I I'm not"}, {"start": "00:34:10", "end": "00:34:14", "text": "ready to talk about."}, {"start": "00:34:11", "end": "00:34:15", "text": ">> You know, Ron, you have a lot of"}, {"start": "00:34:14", "end": "00:34:17", "text": "information on your site. We want all"}, {"start": "00:34:15", "end": "00:34:19", "text": "the listeners out there to to check it"}, {"start": "00:34:17", "end": "00:34:21", "text": "out. But, you know, after this, Blake's"}, {"start": "00:34:19", "end": "00:34:22", "text": "going to do a great little movie on"}, {"start": "00:34:21", "end": "00:34:24", "text": "Third Phase of Moon where everybody's"}, {"start": "00:34:22", "end": "00:34:26", "text": "going to be able to see this. Can we"}, {"start": "00:34:24", "end": "00:34:29", "text": "showcase the world what's on your site"}, {"start": "00:34:26", "end": "00:34:31", "text": "on third phase of moon?"}, {"start": "00:34:29", "end": "00:34:33", "text": ">> Uh yeah, you can put your site up. I've"}, {"start": "00:34:31", "end": "00:34:36", "text": "been uh tasked to to get this"}, {"start": "00:34:33", "end": "00:34:38", "text": "information out. Dr. Dan Burries is"}, {"start": "00:34:36", "end": "00:34:40", "text": ">> No, no, we're saying we're going to put"}, {"start": "00:34:38", "end": "00:34:42", "text": "it on our channel. We'll show we'll show"}, {"start": "00:34:40", "end": "00:34:45", "text": "pages from your site and of course offer"}, {"start": "00:34:42", "end": "00:34:46", "text": "everyone links to to your site."}, {"start": "00:34:45", "end": "00:34:48", "text": ">> Sure. No, that's fine. That that's my"}, {"start": "00:34:46", "end": "00:34:50", "text": "job. I was holding off putting my site"}, {"start": "00:34:48", "end": "00:34:52", "text": "up. It just went up this week. I had to"}, {"start": "00:34:50", "end": "00:34:54", "text": "wait till after the citizens hearing was"}, {"start": "00:34:52", "end": "00:34:57", "text": "over. Uh there are certain protocols"}, {"start": "00:34:54", "end": "00:34:59", "text": "that I had to adhere to, but now yeah, I"}, {"start": "00:34:57", "end": "00:35:00", "text": "want to blast this to the world. So you"}, {"start": "00:34:59", "end": "00:35:02", "text": "guys are welcome to it."}, {"start": "00:35:00", "end": "00:35:05", "text": ">> Good. Good. All you listeners out there,"}, {"start": "00:35:02", "end": "00:35:07", "text": "make sure you check out Area51JRod.com"}, {"start": "00:35:05", "end": "00:35:09", "text": "and also thirdphase of moon on YouTube"}, {"start": "00:35:07", "end": "00:35:11", "text": "where you can see all the great footage"}, {"start": "00:35:09", "end": "00:35:13", "text": "including this interview and you'll be"}, {"start": "00:35:11", "end": "00:35:16", "text": "actually seeing what we're talking"}, {"start": "00:35:13", "end": "00:35:18", "text": "about. We have a UFO hunter Joe Kieran"}, {"start": "00:35:16", "end": "00:35:20", "text": "who was on the last hour with us. He has"}, {"start": "00:35:18", "end": "00:35:23", "text": "a a question for you Gardner. Okay, Ron"}, {"start": "00:35:20", "end": "00:35:24", "text": "Gardner. Joe."}, {"start": "00:35:23", "end": "00:35:26", "text": ">> Yes. Hello. Uh, thank you for, uh,"}, {"start": "00:35:24", "end": "00:35:27", "text": "taking the time to answer a question for"}, {"start": "00:35:26", "end": "00:35:29", "text": "me."}, {"start": "00:35:27", "end": "00:35:32", "text": ">> I'm happy to, Joe."}, {"start": "00:35:29", "end": "00:35:33", "text": ">> Uh, so many good questions already"}, {"start": "00:35:32", "end": "00:35:36", "text": "covered and I know you you know the"}, {"start": "00:35:33", "end": "00:35:38", "text": "topic very well, but just to quickly ask"}, {"start": "00:35:36", "end": "00:35:40", "text": "a question. You were just on a minute"}, {"start": "00:35:38", "end": "00:35:43", "text": "ago when you were saying JRod, he needed"}, {"start": "00:35:40", "end": "00:35:44", "text": "they required drinking a lot of liquids,"}, {"start": "00:35:43", "end": "00:35:46", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:35:44", "end": "00:35:47", "text": ">> What was the liquid? Was it primarily"}, {"start": "00:35:46", "end": "00:35:49", "text": "water? Was it strictly"}, {"start": "00:35:47", "end": "00:35:51", "text": ">> primarily water? Yeah, primarily water"}, {"start": "00:35:49", "end": "00:35:51", "text": "as far as I know."}, {"start": "00:35:51", "end": "00:35:54", "text": "Uh"}, {"start": "00:35:51", "end": "00:35:58", "text": ">> and it was just that was that their"}, {"start": "00:35:54", "end": "00:36:00", "text": "overall uh their means of uh nutrition?"}, {"start": "00:35:58", "end": "00:36:04", "text": ">> No, there was other nutrition. I never"}, {"start": "00:36:00", "end": "00:36:07", "text": "asked Dr. Burish about that because uh"}, {"start": "00:36:04", "end": "00:36:09", "text": "the clean sphere was lifted up from what"}, {"start": "00:36:07", "end": "00:36:11", "text": "they call the ambassadorial suite which"}, {"start": "00:36:09", "end": "00:36:14", "text": "was on a lower level where they took"}, {"start": "00:36:11", "end": "00:36:16", "text": "care of the JROD. Uh but they're always"}, {"start": "00:36:14", "end": "00:36:20", "text": "concerned about contamination. Dr."}, {"start": "00:36:16", "end": "00:36:22", "text": "Burish and the other uh military uh"}, {"start": "00:36:20", "end": "00:36:24", "text": "scientists had to wear what they call a"}, {"start": "00:36:22", "end": "00:36:25", "text": "totally encapsulated suit. It's a space"}, {"start": "00:36:24", "end": "00:36:29", "text": "suit when they were interacting with the"}, {"start": "00:36:25", "end": "00:36:31", "text": "JROD. If you if you see my site, the top"}, {"start": "00:36:29", "end": "00:36:33", "text": "of it, you can see actual drawings of"}, {"start": "00:36:31", "end": "00:36:36", "text": "this uh because we didn't want to Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:36:33", "end": "00:36:38", "text": "we didn't we didn't"}, {"start": "00:36:36", "end": "00:36:40", "text": ">> we didn't want to contaminate the the"}, {"start": "00:36:38", "end": "00:36:43", "text": "extraterrestrial and we didn't want him"}, {"start": "00:36:40", "end": "00:36:46", "text": "to contaminate us. So, all all these 50"}, {"start": "00:36:43", "end": "00:36:48", "text": "years he's been isolated."}, {"start": "00:36:46", "end": "00:36:51", "text": "uh and all the people that interacted"}, {"start": "00:36:48", "end": "00:36:54", "text": "with them had to do it in uh these"}, {"start": "00:36:51", "end": "00:36:55", "text": "totally encapsulated suits. Now, this"}, {"start": "00:36:54", "end": "00:36:58", "text": "brings up something I just want to"}, {"start": "00:36:55", "end": "00:37:02", "text": "mention. We mentioned the Faria case. Uh"}, {"start": "00:36:58", "end": "00:37:05", "text": "when Dr. Leer and I went to Faria, we"}, {"start": "00:37:02", "end": "00:37:08", "text": "interviewed a woman whose husband was a"}, {"start": "00:37:05", "end": "00:37:11", "text": "military uh policeman who ke who had had"}, {"start": "00:37:08", "end": "00:37:15", "text": "actually carried this being in the"}, {"start": "00:37:11", "end": "00:37:18", "text": "patrol car. and he died like six um 6"}, {"start": "00:37:15", "end": "00:37:20", "text": "weeks later bleeding from every orifice"}, {"start": "00:37:18", "end": "00:37:24", "text": "in his body cuz he was contaminated. So"}, {"start": "00:37:20", "end": "00:37:26", "text": "that shows there this other creature in"}, {"start": "00:37:24", "end": "00:37:29", "text": "Brazil in 96"}, {"start": "00:37:26", "end": "00:37:31", "text": "uh that it was dangerous for humans to"}, {"start": "00:37:29", "end": "00:37:34", "text": "interact. So that's why uh that's a"}, {"start": "00:37:31", "end": "00:37:36", "text": "cooperation for me that what I know"}, {"start": "00:37:34", "end": "00:37:37", "text": "about the the J-Rod here. They were very"}, {"start": "00:37:36", "end": "00:37:40", "text": "concerned. It was like the Andromeda"}, {"start": "00:37:37", "end": "00:37:42", "text": "train. I use that Dr. Bur mentions two"}, {"start": "00:37:40", "end": "00:37:46", "text": "films all the time. name is Andromeda"}, {"start": "00:37:42", "end": "00:37:48", "text": "String and the um uh Dustin Hoffen Move"}, {"start": "00:37:46", "end": "00:37:52", "text": "Me Outbreak. If you want to know what"}, {"start": "00:37:48", "end": "00:37:54", "text": "Area 51 S4 uh the bottom levels look"}, {"start": "00:37:52", "end": "00:37:56", "text": "like, just go watch uh Outbreak with"}, {"start": "00:37:54", "end": "00:37:59", "text": "Dustin Hoffman and you'll it's very"}, {"start": "00:37:56", "end": "00:38:01", "text": "similar. The ramps, the the way they the"}, {"start": "00:37:59", "end": "00:38:04", "text": "the isolate, the being and everything is"}, {"start": "00:38:01", "end": "00:38:06", "text": "very similar to that movie. Well, I mean"}, {"start": "00:38:04", "end": "00:38:09", "text": "to go back a little bit, a little more"}, {"start": "00:38:06", "end": "00:38:12", "text": "history. Uh, in 1983, I was working for"}, {"start": "00:38:09", "end": "00:38:14", "text": "a mortgage company in Beverly Hills and"}, {"start": "00:38:12", "end": "00:38:16", "text": "the woman manager and I went to lunch"}, {"start": "00:38:14", "end": "00:38:19", "text": "one day and she said that her brother"}, {"start": "00:38:16", "end": "00:38:22", "text": "worked at Area 51. I said, \"Oh, really?"}, {"start": "00:38:19", "end": "00:38:24", "text": "I'd love to talk to him.\" So, uh, she"}, {"start": "00:38:22", "end": "00:38:26", "text": "said, \"Yeah, well, she could set it up.\""}, {"start": "00:38:24", "end": "00:38:29", "text": "Every time I tried to set up a meeting"}, {"start": "00:38:26", "end": "00:38:32", "text": "with her brother, he said there was a"}, {"start": "00:38:29", "end": "00:38:33", "text": "white van with a dish on top cruising"}, {"start": "00:38:32", "end": "00:38:35", "text": "his neighborhood. So, he would never I"}, {"start": "00:38:33", "end": "00:38:37", "text": "could never set up an appointment. But"}, {"start": "00:38:35", "end": "00:38:40", "text": "what he told her and told me on the"}, {"start": "00:38:37", "end": "00:38:42", "text": "phone was that when he was a low-level"}, {"start": "00:38:40", "end": "00:38:44", "text": "person in Area 51. He wasn't, you know,"}, {"start": "00:38:42", "end": "00:38:47", "text": "he was a a welder or something. And he"}, {"start": "00:38:44", "end": "00:38:49", "text": "would go by this one office and there"}, {"start": "00:38:47", "end": "00:38:52", "text": "was this being in there and the office"}, {"start": "00:38:49", "end": "00:38:54", "text": "was all disheveled with books everywhere"}, {"start": "00:38:52", "end": "00:38:57", "text": "and this guy had one blue sock and one"}, {"start": "00:38:54", "end": "00:38:58", "text": "brown sock. So her brother went in there"}, {"start": "00:38:57", "end": "00:39:00", "text": "one day and told this person, \"Why don't"}, {"start": "00:38:58", "end": "00:39:03", "text": "you clean this place up? It's a mess.\""}, {"start": "00:39:00", "end": "00:39:05", "text": "And this being said verbatim, look"}, {"start": "00:39:03", "end": "00:39:07", "text": "fellow, I just put on this body every"}, {"start": "00:39:05", "end": "00:39:09", "text": "day just like you put on your coverall."}, {"start": "00:39:07", "end": "00:39:11", "text": "So get out of here and leave me alone."}, {"start": "00:39:09", "end": "00:39:16", "text": "So that was my first in ' 83. And then"}, {"start": "00:39:11", "end": "00:39:18", "text": "the Bazaar happened in ' 89."}, {"start": "00:39:16", "end": "00:39:20", "text": "So then uh Bill Hamilton was one of the"}, {"start": "00:39:18", "end": "00:39:23", "text": "major researchers. He and I were close"}, {"start": "00:39:20", "end": "00:39:24", "text": "friends. And we whenever we get"}, {"start": "00:39:23", "end": "00:39:27", "text": "together, I worked in Beverly Hills and"}, {"start": "00:39:24", "end": "00:39:29", "text": "he worked as a computer specialist at"}, {"start": "00:39:27", "end": "00:39:32", "text": "UCLA. So we would meet in Westwood to"}, {"start": "00:39:29", "end": "00:39:34", "text": "talk about all these UFO stories that we"}, {"start": "00:39:32", "end": "00:39:38", "text": "were researching."}, {"start": "00:39:34", "end": "00:39:41", "text": "And so uh that's how I came in contact"}, {"start": "00:39:38", "end": "00:39:45", "text": "with Dr. Buries in the JROD. At the same"}, {"start": "00:39:41", "end": "00:39:49", "text": "time, I produced a radio show uh in San"}, {"start": "00:39:45", "end": "00:39:51", "text": "Diego on Truth Seeker Radio and one of"}, {"start": "00:39:49", "end": "00:39:53", "text": "the people that were part of the Truth"}, {"start": "00:39:51", "end": "00:39:58", "text": "Seeker organization"}, {"start": "00:39:53", "end": "00:40:01", "text": "uh was the son-in-law of the CIA agent."}, {"start": "00:39:58", "end": "00:40:02", "text": "And so, uh he told me about his"}, {"start": "00:40:01", "end": "00:40:06", "text": "father-in-law."}, {"start": "00:40:02", "end": "00:40:08", "text": "And so, I began researching that for 15"}, {"start": "00:40:06", "end": "00:40:11", "text": "years. I I've only come out with this in"}, {"start": "00:40:08", "end": "00:40:13", "text": "the last month. Uh but I vetted his"}, {"start": "00:40:11", "end": "00:40:15", "text": "whole family"}, {"start": "00:40:13", "end": "00:40:20", "text": "and him I've seen the documentation of"}, {"start": "00:40:15", "end": "00:40:22", "text": "his uh working both uh in the army as a"}, {"start": "00:40:20", "end": "00:40:25", "text": "cryptographer and working for the CIA at"}, {"start": "00:40:22", "end": "00:40:27", "text": "the same time. That's quite often true"}, {"start": "00:40:25", "end": "00:40:30", "text": "with the CIA people. They wear two hats"}, {"start": "00:40:27", "end": "00:40:33", "text": "and um they use code names and that's"}, {"start": "00:40:30", "end": "00:40:36", "text": "that that's that old story. So I I first"}, {"start": "00:40:33", "end": "00:40:37", "text": "we first became aware of this particular"}, {"start": "00:40:36", "end": "00:40:42", "text": "individual"}, {"start": "00:40:37", "end": "00:40:44", "text": "uh in 97 time frame. Then I contacted"}, {"start": "00:40:42", "end": "00:40:46", "text": "Linda How. You remember what she said at"}, {"start": "00:40:44", "end": "00:40:48", "text": "the hearing that she had interviewed"}, {"start": "00:40:46", "end": "00:40:51", "text": "him? Well, I'm the one that set all that"}, {"start": "00:40:48", "end": "00:40:56", "text": "up. And then I set it up with Richard"}, {"start": "00:40:51", "end": "00:40:58", "text": "Dolan for February the 5th of this year."}, {"start": "00:40:56", "end": "00:41:01", "text": "And so I have cooperation both from"}, {"start": "00:40:58", "end": "00:41:02", "text": "Richard Dolan and Linda How. Linda Hal"}, {"start": "00:41:01", "end": "00:41:06", "text": "interviewed this particular individual"}, {"start": "00:41:02", "end": "00:41:08", "text": "for like you know 10 15 hours on audio"}, {"start": "00:41:06", "end": "00:41:11", "text": "tape but she never got videotaped and I"}, {"start": "00:41:08", "end": "00:41:13", "text": "have the videotape and that's be part of"}, {"start": "00:41:11", "end": "00:41:14", "text": "the documentary that just cause"}, {"start": "00:41:13", "end": "00:41:16", "text": "Productions and Steven Basset are"}, {"start": "00:41:14", "end": "00:41:19", "text": "working on."}, {"start": "00:41:16", "end": "00:41:22", "text": ">> Yeah. And what you uh managed to put"}, {"start": "00:41:19", "end": "00:41:24", "text": "together with that interview with CIA"}, {"start": "00:41:22", "end": "00:41:26", "text": "retirey was absolutely amazing. I think"}, {"start": "00:41:24", "end": "00:41:26", "text": "uh Joe Kieran has a question for you Mr."}, {"start": "00:41:26", "end": "00:41:28", "text": "Garden."}, {"start": "00:41:26", "end": "00:41:31", "text": ">> Go ahead."}, {"start": "00:41:28", "end": "00:41:36", "text": ">> Yeah. Yes. Now, uh I I was curious with"}, {"start": "00:41:31", "end": "00:41:37", "text": "with JRod and uh I guess our future"}, {"start": "00:41:36", "end": "00:41:40", "text": "ancestors"}, {"start": "00:41:37", "end": "00:41:42", "text": "uh when they do come here, are they"}, {"start": "00:41:40", "end": "00:41:44", "text": "coming here for the purpose of as you"}, {"start": "00:41:42", "end": "00:41:47", "text": "said sacrificial lambs? Are they coming"}, {"start": "00:41:44", "end": "00:41:48", "text": "here with purposes of benefiting us in"}, {"start": "00:41:47", "end": "00:41:50", "text": "the future or do they have other"}, {"start": "00:41:48", "end": "00:41:52", "text": "intentions?"}, {"start": "00:41:50", "end": "00:41:55", "text": ">> Yes, they are. And and Dr. Bur"}, {"start": "00:41:52", "end": "00:41:58", "text": "identifies them. the JROD that we're"}, {"start": "00:41:55", "end": "00:42:03", "text": "talking about his his real name is Ka C"}, {"start": "00:41:58", "end": "00:42:06", "text": "a L ah it's on my site uh he came here"}, {"start": "00:42:03", "end": "00:42:08", "text": "as a sacrificial lamb to help his people"}, {"start": "00:42:06", "end": "00:42:11", "text": "and uh he was very sad because he missed"}, {"start": "00:42:08", "end": "00:42:14", "text": "his family back on reticula he missed"}, {"start": "00:42:11", "end": "00:42:17", "text": "his his wife and son and wanted to go"}, {"start": "00:42:14", "end": "00:42:20", "text": "back there and so"}, {"start": "00:42:17", "end": "00:42:23", "text": "uh but there and from Dan's point of"}, {"start": "00:42:20", "end": "00:42:26", "text": "view it's hard to con conceptual iz"}, {"start": "00:42:23", "end": "00:42:28", "text": "this, but he's from 52,000 years in our"}, {"start": "00:42:26", "end": "00:42:32", "text": "future. But on the same ship that"}, {"start": "00:42:28", "end": "00:42:33", "text": "crashed in Kingman, Arizona, there were"}, {"start": "00:42:32", "end": "00:42:37", "text": "uh the other ones that were there were"}, {"start": "00:42:33", "end": "00:42:40", "text": "from 46,000 years in our future. And"}, {"start": "00:42:37", "end": "00:42:44", "text": "they don't have the best interest of uh"}, {"start": "00:42:40", "end": "00:42:46", "text": "humans at heart. It's okay. But um part"}, {"start": "00:42:44", "end": "00:42:49", "text": "of what our military has been doing all"}, {"start": "00:42:46", "end": "00:42:54", "text": "these years is helping them and then"}, {"start": "00:42:49", "end": "00:42:56", "text": "they're helping us with technology."}, {"start": "00:42:54", "end": "00:42:59", "text": "And th those beings that uh that were on"}, {"start": "00:42:56", "end": "00:43:01", "text": "the ship, they actually one was an"}, {"start": "00:42:59", "end": "00:43:04", "text": "engineer, an an at engineer. So when"}, {"start": "00:43:01", "end": "00:43:07", "text": "Bill UAS was working with them at Los"}, {"start": "00:43:04", "end": "00:43:10", "text": "Alamos in the Area 51, when they were"}, {"start": "00:43:07", "end": "00:43:12", "text": "back engineering the the UFO, they had"}, {"start": "00:43:10", "end": "00:43:16", "text": "to make it larger so our guys could to"}, {"start": "00:43:12", "end": "00:43:18", "text": "could seat seat themselves in it. And"}, {"start": "00:43:16", "end": "00:43:20", "text": "they didn't get the the things quite"}, {"start": "00:43:18", "end": "00:43:22", "text": "right. So then the ET engineer would"}, {"start": "00:43:20", "end": "00:43:24", "text": "come over with a formula and write it"}, {"start": "00:43:22", "end": "00:43:26", "text": "out and our engineers were being"}, {"start": "00:43:24", "end": "00:43:28", "text": "instructed instructed by the ET engineer"}, {"start": "00:43:26", "end": "00:43:30", "text": "how to build the craft,"}, {"start": "00:43:28", "end": "00:43:33", "text": ">> you know. So this just goes and proves"}, {"start": "00:43:30", "end": "00:43:35", "text": "that that aliens and humans are working"}, {"start": "00:43:33", "end": "00:43:36", "text": "together and the government's behind."}, {"start": "00:43:35", "end": "00:43:38", "text": ">> Absolutely."}, {"start": "00:43:36", "end": "00:43:40", "text": ">> You know, Ron, we also have Preston"}, {"start": "00:43:38", "end": "00:43:43", "text": "Dennit here, muon, researcher of over 23"}, {"start": "00:43:40", "end": "00:43:46", "text": "years, author of 15 amazing books, two"}, {"start": "00:43:43", "end": "00:43:48", "text": "more on their way. Uh Preston, uh you"}, {"start": "00:43:46", "end": "00:43:49", "text": "have a question for Ron, right? I do. I"}, {"start": "00:43:48", "end": "00:43:51", "text": "do. Um, hi."}, {"start": "00:43:49", "end": "00:43:54", "text": ">> Yeah. Hello, Preston. I remember when"}, {"start": "00:43:51", "end": "00:43:56", "text": "you uh researched at Crop Circle in"}, {"start": "00:43:54", "end": "00:43:59", "text": "Lagouna Beach. Isn't that when the one"}, {"start": "00:43:56", "end": "00:44:01", "text": "that you first got back then?"}, {"start": "00:43:59", "end": "00:44:03", "text": ">> Um, that was a while back."}, {"start": "00:44:01", "end": "00:44:05", "text": ">> That's a long time ago. I know. But I"}, {"start": "00:44:03", "end": "00:44:05", "text": "thought I was impressed with your work"}, {"start": "00:44:05", "end": "00:44:07", "text": "then."}, {"start": "00:44:05", "end": "00:44:09", "text": ">> Oh, thank you. Yeah, I've been doing"}, {"start": "00:44:07", "end": "00:44:11", "text": "this for a long time. I really enjoy it."}, {"start": "00:44:09", "end": "00:44:12", "text": "But, uh, yeah. So, I'm really um excited"}, {"start": "00:44:11", "end": "00:44:14", "text": "to speak with you. And I've got a"}, {"start": "00:44:12", "end": "00:44:17", "text": "question which I think um you might find"}, {"start": "00:44:14", "end": "00:44:19", "text": "kind of interesting. Fate magazine did"}, {"start": "00:44:17", "end": "00:44:21", "text": "an experiment uh this was like five or t"}, {"start": "00:44:19", "end": "00:44:23", "text": "years ago which they published in their"}, {"start": "00:44:21", "end": "00:44:27", "text": "magazine where they asked their readers"}, {"start": "00:44:23", "end": "00:44:30", "text": "to remote view Area 51 or astral project"}, {"start": "00:44:27", "end": "00:44:32", "text": "to it and see what they came up with."}, {"start": "00:44:30", "end": "00:44:32", "text": ">> Really? I loved it to see what they had"}, {"start": "00:44:32", "end": "00:44:34", "text": "to say."}, {"start": "00:44:32", "end": "00:44:36", "text": ">> Oh, you know the results were amazing"}, {"start": "00:44:34", "end": "00:44:37", "text": "and they were really consistent. They"}, {"start": "00:44:36", "end": "00:44:39", "text": "all said that there were it was many"}, {"start": "00:44:37", "end": "00:44:41", "text": "levels underground. It was very large."}, {"start": "00:44:39", "end": "00:44:46", "text": "They said there was reverse engineering"}, {"start": "00:44:41", "end": "00:44:47", "text": "going on. there was uh ET hardware they"}, {"start": "00:44:46", "end": "00:44:49", "text": "said there was live beings there some of"}, {"start": "00:44:47", "end": "00:44:51", "text": "whom uh were aware that they were being"}, {"start": "00:44:49", "end": "00:44:52", "text": "remote viewed"}, {"start": "00:44:51", "end": "00:44:54", "text": ">> yes that's true"}, {"start": "00:44:52", "end": "00:44:55", "text": ">> but what I found most fascinating and"}, {"start": "00:44:54", "end": "00:44:57", "text": "this came up you know several people"}, {"start": "00:44:55", "end": "00:45:00", "text": "came up with this and I had never heard"}, {"start": "00:44:57", "end": "00:45:02", "text": "it before they said that they detected"}, {"start": "00:45:00", "end": "00:45:05", "text": "that some of the some of the people who"}, {"start": "00:45:02", "end": "00:45:08", "text": "work there with the ETSs have been"}, {"start": "00:45:05", "end": "00:45:10", "text": "augmented had their bodies changed in"}, {"start": "00:45:08", "end": "00:45:12", "text": "some ways by the ETSs so that their"}, {"start": "00:45:10", "end": "00:45:14", "text": "health was improved or that they could"}, {"start": "00:45:12", "end": "00:45:15", "text": "live much longer than the average human."}, {"start": "00:45:14", "end": "00:45:17", "text": "I'm wondering if you"}, {"start": "00:45:15", "end": "00:45:18", "text": ">> I haven't heard that, but that doesn't"}, {"start": "00:45:17", "end": "00:45:20", "text": "surprise me that there's some kind of"}, {"start": "00:45:18", "end": "00:45:20", "text": "genetic manipulation,"}, {"start": "00:45:20", "end": "00:45:22", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:45:20", "end": "00:45:25", "text": ">> That's what uh you know, abduction"}, {"start": "00:45:22", "end": "00:45:27", "text": "researcher David says that there's a"}, {"start": "00:45:25", "end": "00:45:29", "text": "hybridization going on. So, that"}, {"start": "00:45:27", "end": "00:45:32", "text": "wouldn't surprise me if that's true. I I"}, {"start": "00:45:29", "end": "00:45:34", "text": "don't know that from my research, but it"}, {"start": "00:45:32", "end": "00:45:36", "text": "it sounds as a possibility."}, {"start": "00:45:34", "end": "00:45:39", "text": ">> Well, certainly, you know, they're doing"}, {"start": "00:45:36", "end": "00:45:40", "text": "it to the people they abduct. So, but"}, {"start": "00:45:39", "end": "00:45:43", "text": ">> yeah, we're that's pretty well"}, {"start": "00:45:40", "end": "00:45:44", "text": "established by the"}, {"start": "00:45:43", "end": "00:45:45", "text": ">> research."}, {"start": "00:45:44", "end": "00:45:47", "text": ">> And another question, you know, I've had"}, {"start": "00:45:45", "end": "00:45:50", "text": "several people tell me that there are"}, {"start": "00:45:47", "end": "00:45:52", "text": "tunnels under Area 51 that lead to"}, {"start": "00:45:50", "end": "00:45:54", "text": "Edwards Air Force Base in uh to San"}, {"start": "00:45:52", "end": "00:45:56", "text": "Clemente Island, I believe it is in"}, {"start": "00:45:54", "end": "00:45:57", "text": "Southern California and other areas. And"}, {"start": "00:45:56", "end": "00:45:59", "text": "I was wondering if you could comment on"}, {"start": "00:45:57", "end": "00:46:03", "text": "that or what you have heard about."}, {"start": "00:45:59", "end": "00:46:06", "text": ">> Well, I don't I don't know this from doc"}, {"start": "00:46:03", "end": "00:46:08", "text": "Dr. Van Burish or from Bill Uouse. But"}, {"start": "00:46:06", "end": "00:46:12", "text": "John Leer is a good friend and John Leer"}, {"start": "00:46:08", "end": "00:46:16", "text": "said that that's true. Uh John Leer, you"}, {"start": "00:46:12", "end": "00:46:18", "text": "know, Lear Jet's uh inventor's son. Uh"}, {"start": "00:46:16", "end": "00:46:21", "text": "he says there's actual actually a tunnel"}, {"start": "00:46:18", "end": "00:46:25", "text": "from the Pacific Ocean. Uh like the"}, {"start": "00:46:21", "end": "00:46:27", "text": "submarines can come through into Nevada."}, {"start": "00:46:25", "end": "00:46:31", "text": "Uh so yeah, there's a vast tunnel"}, {"start": "00:46:27", "end": "00:46:34", "text": "network uh from there to probably"}, {"start": "00:46:31", "end": "00:46:36", "text": "uh to Edwards to Nellis and maybe even"}, {"start": "00:46:34", "end": "00:46:37", "text": "as far as Los Alamos. It wouldn't"}, {"start": "00:46:36", "end": "00:46:40", "text": "surprise me."}, {"start": "00:46:37", "end": "00:46:42", "text": ">> Wow, that's u did say that he he was in"}, {"start": "00:46:40", "end": "00:46:45", "text": "some of the tunnels and they were wide"}, {"start": "00:46:42", "end": "00:46:47", "text": "enough for two semitrs with a train in"}, {"start": "00:46:45", "end": "00:46:50", "text": "the center, you know, 70 or 80 feet"}, {"start": "00:46:47", "end": "00:46:53", "text": "wide. He was actually in those uh in"}, {"start": "00:46:50", "end": "00:46:56", "text": "those tunnels under Area 51."}, {"start": "00:46:53", "end": "00:46:59", "text": "I wanted to know uh Mr. Gardner about"}, {"start": "00:46:56", "end": "00:47:02", "text": "technology leaked from Area 51 or has"}, {"start": "00:46:59", "end": "00:47:03", "text": "any of it trickled down to the public"}, {"start": "00:47:02", "end": "00:47:07", "text": "and uh you know some of the things that"}, {"start": "00:47:03", "end": "00:47:10", "text": "were you know have as everyday devices?"}, {"start": "00:47:07", "end": "00:47:12", "text": "Is it leaked information and from Area"}, {"start": "00:47:10", "end": "00:47:14", "text": "51 some kind of technology that somehow"}, {"start": "00:47:12", "end": "00:47:15", "text": "helped mankind as of recent or are they"}, {"start": "00:47:14", "end": "00:47:16", "text": "still"}, {"start": "00:47:15", "end": "00:47:18", "text": ">> Yeah. Well, if you if you're familiar"}, {"start": "00:47:16", "end": "00:47:20", "text": "with the Philip Corso story, I've done a"}, {"start": "00:47:18", "end": "00:47:23", "text": "documentary about him. It's on my"}, {"start": "00:47:20", "end": "00:47:26", "text": "website. uh Corso says that you know"}, {"start": "00:47:23", "end": "00:47:28", "text": "very explicitly in his book the day"}, {"start": "00:47:26", "end": "00:47:32", "text": "after Roswell and Bill Burns and I are"}, {"start": "00:47:28", "end": "00:47:35", "text": "good friends and EFO magazine he's on"}, {"start": "00:47:32", "end": "00:47:38", "text": "History Channel all the time and uh but"}, {"start": "00:47:35", "end": "00:47:41", "text": "you know Corso explains that the the"}, {"start": "00:47:38", "end": "00:47:44", "text": "computer chip uh Teflar"}, {"start": "00:47:41", "end": "00:47:47", "text": "uh you know all kinds of information"}, {"start": "00:47:44", "end": "00:47:50", "text": "came from the craft at Roswell."}, {"start": "00:47:47", "end": "00:47:52", "text": "So, uh, you know, at the hearings, I"}, {"start": "00:47:50", "end": "00:47:55", "text": "don't know if you heard that part, but"}, {"start": "00:47:52", "end": "00:47:58", "text": "one of the I think it was the senator"}, {"start": "00:47:55", "end": "00:48:01", "text": "from, uh, Alaska, someone in the panel"}, {"start": "00:47:58", "end": "00:48:04", "text": "had said that, uh, Ben Rich, who is a"}, {"start": "00:48:01", "end": "00:48:07", "text": "former, uh, president of Lockheed Skunk"}, {"start": "00:48:04", "end": "00:48:11", "text": "Works, said that the Air Force gave him"}, {"start": "00:48:07", "end": "00:48:13", "text": "a contract to take ET home."}, {"start": "00:48:11", "end": "00:48:16", "text": "Now I actually have that recording when"}, {"start": "00:48:13", "end": "00:48:18", "text": "Ben Rich said that at Wright Patterson"}, {"start": "00:48:16", "end": "00:48:21", "text": "Air Force Base and I've also interviewed"}, {"start": "00:48:18", "end": "00:48:24", "text": "Jan Harzan who's head of Muon Orange"}, {"start": "00:48:21", "end": "00:48:26", "text": "County uh where he heard Ben Rich say"}, {"start": "00:48:24", "end": "00:48:29", "text": "that at UCLA."}, {"start": "00:48:26", "end": "00:48:32", "text": "So, uh, and I don't know where this is"}, {"start": "00:48:29", "end": "00:48:34", "text": "true, but I'll just state it that I"}, {"start": "00:48:32", "end": "00:48:38", "text": "talked to people inside aerospace"}, {"start": "00:48:34", "end": "00:48:39", "text": "companies and pilots and so forth, and"}, {"start": "00:48:38", "end": "00:48:42", "text": "two different ones that didn't know each"}, {"start": "00:48:39", "end": "00:48:43", "text": "other, and I always say, well, what"}, {"start": "00:48:42", "end": "00:48:46", "text": "percentage of the sightings are ours,"}, {"start": "00:48:43", "end": "00:48:49", "text": "and what percentage are theirs? And both"}, {"start": "00:48:46", "end": "00:48:51", "text": "these people said that 60 to 70% are"}, {"start": "00:48:49", "end": "00:48:52", "text": "ours."}, {"start": "00:48:51", "end": "00:48:54", "text": "Now, that just amazed me. I didn't think"}, {"start": "00:48:52", "end": "00:48:56", "text": "that was that would be I thought it"}, {"start": "00:48:54", "end": "00:48:58", "text": "would be just the reverse."}, {"start": "00:48:56", "end": "00:49:00", "text": "So, all of these sightings out there,"}, {"start": "00:48:58", "end": "00:49:01", "text": "and I' I've personally given up on"}, {"start": "00:49:00", "end": "00:49:05", "text": "sightings 20 years ago. I want to talk"}, {"start": "00:49:01", "end": "00:49:06", "text": "about who's inside that that light uh"}, {"start": "00:49:05", "end": "00:49:09", "text": "that's floating around in space. And"}, {"start": "00:49:06", "end": "00:49:11", "text": "that's why I focused on Area 51 and and"}, {"start": "00:49:09", "end": "00:49:15", "text": "Los Alamos because that's where the"}, {"start": "00:49:11", "end": "00:49:19", "text": "beings are. So, uh as far as what's"}, {"start": "00:49:15", "end": "00:49:21", "text": "been, you know, come from Area 51 S4"}, {"start": "00:49:19", "end": "00:49:24", "text": "proper to the public, I don't know. I"}, {"start": "00:49:21", "end": "00:49:27", "text": "don't know what u there's probably"}, {"start": "00:49:24", "end": "00:49:29", "text": "research that that has come as far as"}, {"start": "00:49:27", "end": "00:49:31", "text": "genetic manipulation and so forth, but"}, {"start": "00:49:29", "end": "00:49:33", "text": "that's above my pay grade. Uh at some"}, {"start": "00:49:31", "end": "00:49:36", "text": "point I can talk to Dr. Burish about"}, {"start": "00:49:33", "end": "00:49:37", "text": "that because I'm very close to him and"}, {"start": "00:49:36", "end": "00:49:40", "text": "it's almost like my stepson. I was the"}, {"start": "00:49:37", "end": "00:49:43", "text": "best man in his wedding and I know his"}, {"start": "00:49:40", "end": "00:49:45", "text": "story backwards and forwards."}, {"start": "00:49:43", "end": "00:49:48", "text": ">> You know, Mr. Gardner, I have something"}, {"start": "00:49:45", "end": "00:49:50", "text": "to ask you about MJ12. Uh we talked"}, {"start": "00:49:48", "end": "00:49:52", "text": "about before we went on air about Carl"}, {"start": "00:49:50", "end": "00:49:54", "text": "Sean. I mean he was like a big"}, {"start": "00:49:52", "end": "00:49:56", "text": "disinformation guy yet at the same time"}, {"start": "00:49:54", "end": "00:49:59", "text": "he was trying to kind of you know talk"}, {"start": "00:49:56", "end": "00:50:01", "text": "about ETSs uh you know with STI. Can you"}, {"start": "00:49:59", "end": "00:50:05", "text": "tell us his link to MJ12 and also give"}, {"start": "00:50:01", "end": "00:50:06", "text": "us a MJ12 me names. So you told me about"}, {"start": "00:50:05", "end": "00:50:08", "text": "an admiral."}, {"start": "00:50:06", "end": "00:50:11", "text": ">> Yeah. Admiral McConnell is head of"}, {"start": "00:50:08", "end": "00:50:14", "text": "Majestic 12 right now and he's like the"}, {"start": "00:50:11", "end": "00:50:17", "text": "godfather of Dr. Dan Bur says over 40"}, {"start": "00:50:14", "end": "00:50:23", "text": "biologists admit untimely death but Dr."}, {"start": "00:50:17", "end": "00:50:26", "text": "Dan Bur he was 48 or 49 in February I"}, {"start": "00:50:23", "end": "00:50:27", "text": "still alive. Uh he suffered terribly"}, {"start": "00:50:26", "end": "00:50:29", "text": "from a lot of different things but"}, {"start": "00:50:27", "end": "00:50:32", "text": "McConnell is the one that's protected"}, {"start": "00:50:29", "end": "00:50:35", "text": "him. But as far as Carl Sean, I have"}, {"start": "00:50:32", "end": "00:50:38", "text": "this from three different sources that"}, {"start": "00:50:35", "end": "00:50:43", "text": "Carl Sean was read into the program and"}, {"start": "00:50:38", "end": "00:50:47", "text": "was um you know encouraged to debunk all"}, {"start": "00:50:43", "end": "00:50:49", "text": "of this and uh but I think he had a turn"}, {"start": "00:50:47", "end": "00:50:51", "text": "of heart at the end of his life because"}, {"start": "00:50:49", "end": "00:50:54", "text": "he wrote the the book Contact and the"}, {"start": "00:50:51", "end": "00:50:56", "text": "wonderful movie with Jodie Foster about"}, {"start": "00:50:54", "end": "00:50:58", "text": "contact."}, {"start": "00:50:56", "end": "00:51:00", "text": "And that brings up something else which"}, {"start": "00:50:58", "end": "00:51:03", "text": "I I would like to just put out here"}, {"start": "00:51:00", "end": "00:51:06", "text": "between you and your your many viewers"}, {"start": "00:51:03", "end": "00:51:09", "text": "or listeners. Uh one of the books that's"}, {"start": "00:51:06", "end": "00:51:12", "text": "important I read early on uh I think"}, {"start": "00:51:09", "end": "00:51:15", "text": "it's called Omega Point. Uh and it was"}, {"start": "00:51:12", "end": "00:51:17", "text": "written by Dr. Roger Lear's cousin"}, {"start": "00:51:15", "end": "00:51:21", "text": "Kenneth Ring."}, {"start": "00:51:17", "end": "00:51:25", "text": "And in that book, they link the ET"}, {"start": "00:51:21", "end": "00:51:26", "text": "uh appearances with uh deceased"}, {"start": "00:51:25", "end": "00:51:28", "text": "relatives."}, {"start": "00:51:26", "end": "00:51:31", "text": "And if you remember in the movie"}, {"start": "00:51:28", "end": "00:51:32", "text": "Contact, Jodie Foster"}, {"start": "00:51:31", "end": "00:51:35", "text": "uh you know when she went through the"}, {"start": "00:51:32", "end": "00:51:38", "text": "dimensional shift, who did she meet? She"}, {"start": "00:51:35", "end": "00:51:42", "text": "met her deceased father. So I think Carl"}, {"start": "00:51:38", "end": "00:51:44", "text": "Sean was leaving a legacy to the people"}, {"start": "00:51:42", "end": "00:51:48", "text": "with that movie. I think he had a change"}, {"start": "00:51:44", "end": "00:51:51", "text": "of heart. And uh there's another part of"}, {"start": "00:51:48", "end": "00:51:54", "text": "the story. I don't know if you know who"}, {"start": "00:51:51", "end": "00:51:55", "text": "uh Carl Sean's first wife was."}, {"start": "00:51:54", "end": "00:51:59", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "00:51:55", "end": "00:52:02", "text": ">> Uh she teaches at Amherst University."}, {"start": "00:51:59", "end": "00:52:03", "text": ">> And we're coming on a break. Uh everyone"}, {"start": "00:52:02", "end": "00:52:05", "text": "stay tuned. Third phase of moon radio"}, {"start": "00:52:03", "end": "00:52:07", "text": "will be right back."}, {"start": "00:52:05", "end": "00:52:09", "text": ">> That's right. We are back on live on"}, {"start": "00:52:07", "end": "00:52:11", "text": "Third Phase of Moon Radio and your host"}, {"start": "00:52:09", "end": "00:52:14", "text": "Dr. J. Andy Elias on the phone with Ron"}, {"start": "00:52:11", "end": "00:52:17", "text": "Gardner, Blake Cousins, Yofo Hunter Joe"}, {"start": "00:52:14", "end": "00:52:20", "text": "Kieran, also co-host and Muon researcher"}, {"start": "00:52:17", "end": "00:52:21", "text": "and author Preston Dennit. Uh before we"}, {"start": "00:52:20", "end": "00:52:23", "text": "go forward, just a few quick more"}, {"start": "00:52:21", "end": "00:52:26", "text": "announcements. Remind everybody next"}, {"start": "00:52:23", "end": "00:52:28", "text": "week on May 16th, same time, same place,"}, {"start": "00:52:26", "end": "00:52:31", "text": "8 to 10:00 p.m. Eastern Standard Time,"}, {"start": "00:52:28", "end": "00:52:34", "text": "we have Ivonne Smith, the 23rd, Robert"}, {"start": "00:52:31", "end": "00:52:35", "text": "Solace, and the 30th, Dr. Greer. Also,"}, {"start": "00:52:34", "end": "00:52:37", "text": "make sure if you captured anything"}, {"start": "00:52:35", "end": "00:52:40", "text": "amazing, you send it to Third Phase of"}, {"start": "00:52:37", "end": "00:52:41", "text": "Moon via Skype or Facebook. We're also"}, {"start": "00:52:40", "end": "00:52:44", "text": "looking for the best footage. If you"}, {"start": "00:52:41", "end": "00:52:46", "text": "have a footage of an entity or a footage"}, {"start": "00:52:44", "end": "00:52:47", "text": "of a UFO, send it. Make sure you're"}, {"start": "00:52:46", "end": "00:52:50", "text": "saying it for the Revolution Radio"}, {"start": "00:52:47", "end": "00:52:52", "text": "Contest to win an autographed book from"}, {"start": "00:52:50", "end": "00:52:54", "text": "Preston Dennit. Make sure you check out"}, {"start": "00:52:52", "end": "00:52:58", "text": "Ron Gardner's site that we're all"}, {"start": "00:52:54", "end": "00:53:00", "text": "talking about, which is Area51jro.com."}, {"start": "00:52:58", "end": "00:53:03", "text": "You'll see links on thirdphase of moon"}, {"start": "00:53:00", "end": "00:53:06", "text": "when we actually get this out up there."}, {"start": "00:53:03", "end": "00:53:07", "text": "And uh other than that, let's return"}, {"start": "00:53:06", "end": "00:53:09", "text": "back to where we were be real quick. For"}, {"start": "00:53:07", "end": "00:53:13", "text": "all the listeners out there, the"}, {"start": "00:53:09", "end": "00:53:13", "text": "callers, area code 347-4747228"}, {"start": "00:53:13", "end": "00:53:20", "text": "extension 818. Again, if you want to"}, {"start": "00:53:16", "end": "00:53:20", "text": "call in area code 347-4747228"}, {"start": "00:53:21", "end": "00:53:26", "text": "extension 818. Right before we went back"}, {"start": "00:53:23", "end": "00:53:28", "text": "on uh break, uh Gardner, Mr. Gardner,"}, {"start": "00:53:26", "end": "00:53:31", "text": "you were talking about Carl Sean, his"}, {"start": "00:53:28", "end": "00:53:31", "text": "wife, and MJ12. Can we pick that up"}, {"start": "00:53:31", "end": "00:53:34", "text": "again?"}, {"start": "00:53:31", "end": "00:53:36", "text": ">> Yeah, I will. Uh it's really interesting"}, {"start": "00:53:34", "end": "00:53:39", "text": "because Carl Sean's first wife Lynn"}, {"start": "00:53:36", "end": "00:53:41", "text": "Margulus she teaches biology I think"}, {"start": "00:53:39", "end": "00:53:46", "text": "it's at Amherst"}, {"start": "00:53:41", "end": "00:53:47", "text": "and uh she and her son Carl Sean's son"}, {"start": "00:53:46", "end": "00:53:49", "text": "wrote a book I don't remember the name"}, {"start": "00:53:47", "end": "00:53:51", "text": "of it but they're very strong"}, {"start": "00:53:49", "end": "00:53:53", "text": "environmentalist"}, {"start": "00:53:51", "end": "00:53:56", "text": "and uh at some point I would like to"}, {"start": "00:53:53", "end": "00:53:59", "text": "have Dr. Burish uh meet Lin Margulus"}, {"start": "00:53:56", "end": "00:54:03", "text": "because they are very similar. Uh Dr."}, {"start": "00:53:59", "end": "00:54:06", "text": "Buris Crane is really into uh helping"}, {"start": "00:54:03", "end": "00:54:09", "text": "the environment and he has protocols to"}, {"start": "00:54:06", "end": "00:54:12", "text": "clean up the water supply. That's a"}, {"start": "00:54:09", "end": "00:54:17", "text": "major project that he's had from"}, {"start": "00:54:12", "end": "00:54:19", "text": "teenagers on. Uh but back to Majestic,"}, {"start": "00:54:17", "end": "00:54:22", "text": "you mentioned Admiral McConnell. Jay"}, {"start": "00:54:19", "end": "00:54:27", "text": "Mike McConnell in my humble informed"}, {"start": "00:54:22", "end": "00:54:29", "text": "opinion is the head of Majestic 12."}, {"start": "00:54:27", "end": "00:54:31", "text": "and they changed some of the hierarchy."}, {"start": "00:54:29", "end": "00:54:34", "text": "I know who all the 11 members are. I'm"}, {"start": "00:54:31", "end": "00:54:36", "text": "not going to identify them here. I will"}, {"start": "00:54:34", "end": "00:54:39", "text": "identify them on my site later on when"}, {"start": "00:54:36", "end": "00:54:43", "text": "the time is right. But McConnell is a"}, {"start": "00:54:39", "end": "00:54:46", "text": "moral compass of Majestic. He's a very"}, {"start": "00:54:43", "end": "00:54:48", "text": "honest person. So all of you researchers"}, {"start": "00:54:46", "end": "00:54:51", "text": "out there, if you don't believe me, just"}, {"start": "00:54:48", "end": "00:54:53", "text": "go find Admiral McConnell. Uh I told"}, {"start": "00:54:51", "end": "00:54:55", "text": "this Richard Dolan and he I think he's"}, {"start": "00:54:53", "end": "00:54:57", "text": "written a letter for McConnell. I don't"}, {"start": "00:54:55", "end": "00:55:00", "text": "know what's happened. But McConnell"}, {"start": "00:54:57", "end": "00:55:03", "text": "either will just turn away and neither"}, {"start": "00:55:00", "end": "00:55:06", "text": "confirm nor deny or he may say, \"Yes, I"}, {"start": "00:55:03", "end": "00:55:10", "text": "know who Ron Garner is. I know what who"}, {"start": "00:55:06", "end": "00:55:14", "text": "Dr. Burish is.\" If he says that,"}, {"start": "00:55:10", "end": "00:55:16", "text": "uh, then that is a whole new game"}, {"start": "00:55:14", "end": "00:55:19", "text": "because we have the head of Majestic 12"}, {"start": "00:55:16", "end": "00:55:21", "text": "stating that the Bur story is true. uh"}, {"start": "00:55:19", "end": "00:55:23", "text": "he's a poster boy for disclosure and for"}, {"start": "00:55:21", "end": "00:55:25", "text": "whatever crazy reason Ron Garner the"}, {"start": "00:55:23", "end": "00:55:28", "text": "media guy is supposed to make it happen."}, {"start": "00:55:25", "end": "00:55:33", "text": "So that's why I've I researched these"}, {"start": "00:55:28", "end": "00:55:35", "text": "for 15 20 years and now in 2013 it"}, {"start": "00:55:33", "end": "00:55:38", "text": "started in 2012 I started releasing this"}, {"start": "00:55:35", "end": "00:55:40", "text": "information a little at a time but Dr."}, {"start": "00:55:38", "end": "00:55:41", "text": "Burish has told me that uh with the"}, {"start": "00:55:40", "end": "00:55:45", "text": "looking class they can see"}, {"start": "00:55:41", "end": "00:55:49", "text": "approximations of future events not"}, {"start": "00:55:45", "end": "00:55:52", "text": "exactly but approximations and the 15 16"}, {"start": "00:55:49", "end": "00:55:56", "text": "time frame is really dicey"}, {"start": "00:55:52", "end": "00:55:58", "text": "and if that is going to be improved we"}, {"start": "00:55:56", "end": "00:56:02", "text": "need to develop our spirituality. I've"}, {"start": "00:55:58", "end": "00:56:05", "text": "been a TM meditator my whole life and uh"}, {"start": "00:56:02", "end": "00:56:07", "text": "we need to develop our our spirituality"}, {"start": "00:56:05", "end": "00:56:10", "text": "and help each other, you know, instead"}, {"start": "00:56:07", "end": "00:56:13", "text": "of all this greed that's going on."}, {"start": "00:56:10", "end": "00:56:15", "text": "And I'm I'm hoping if if this takes"}, {"start": "00:56:13", "end": "00:56:17", "text": "place, then we'll have a better future."}, {"start": "00:56:15", "end": "00:56:19", "text": "But if not, when there's catastrophes in"}, {"start": "00:56:17", "end": "00:56:21", "text": "our future, which uh we don't want to"}, {"start": "00:56:19", "end": "00:56:23", "text": "talk about."}, {"start": "00:56:21", "end": "00:56:26", "text": ">> I want to ask you, Ray Gardner, about"}, {"start": "00:56:23", "end": "00:56:27", "text": "again JRod. I just keep going back to"}, {"start": "00:56:26", "end": "00:56:28", "text": "G-Rock, but he's, you know, the most"}, {"start": "00:56:27", "end": "00:56:30", "text": "fascinating."}, {"start": "00:56:28", "end": "00:56:30", "text": ">> Of course. Yeah, I know. It's amazing"}, {"start": "00:56:30", "end": "00:56:33", "text": "thing."}, {"start": "00:56:30", "end": "00:56:35", "text": ">> It is. And um, you know, has there any"}, {"start": "00:56:33", "end": "00:56:38", "text": "bit has there been any leak video"}, {"start": "00:56:35", "end": "00:56:40", "text": "footage out there that anything from"}, {"start": "00:56:38", "end": "00:56:41", "text": "Area 51 uh, showing?"}, {"start": "00:56:40", "end": "00:56:43", "text": ">> Yeah, there's been there's been some"}, {"start": "00:56:41", "end": "00:56:45", "text": "that that were purported to be, but when"}, {"start": "00:56:43", "end": "00:56:47", "text": "I showed it to Dr. Brewer, she said,"}, {"start": "00:56:45", "end": "00:56:49", "text": "\"No, there's stuff on YouTube, but"}, {"start": "00:56:47", "end": "00:56:52", "text": "there's nothing as far as I know."}, {"start": "00:56:49", "end": "00:56:55", "text": "There's some footage of of a being a"}, {"start": "00:56:52", "end": "00:56:58", "text": "light shining down on him and he's um"}, {"start": "00:56:55", "end": "00:56:59", "text": "drooling. I thought that might be true"}, {"start": "00:56:58", "end": "00:57:02", "text": "because the J-Rod they were always he"}, {"start": "00:56:59", "end": "00:57:04", "text": "was very sick. He was throwing up and"}, {"start": "00:57:02", "end": "00:57:06", "text": "they had to clean him up all the time."}, {"start": "00:57:04", "end": "00:57:09", "text": "So I thought maybe that video was true"}, {"start": "00:57:06", "end": "00:57:10", "text": "but Dr. Bury said no that wasn't him. It"}, {"start": "00:57:09", "end": "00:57:14", "text": "could have been another being there. I"}, {"start": "00:57:10", "end": "00:57:17", "text": "don't know. It's it's but the the thing"}, {"start": "00:57:14", "end": "00:57:20", "text": "is they have hundreds of of film and and"}, {"start": "00:57:17", "end": "00:57:23", "text": "docu Dr. Burries with this JROD in the"}, {"start": "00:57:20", "end": "00:57:25", "text": "clean sphere. There's cameras all over"}, {"start": "00:57:23", "end": "00:57:27", "text": "and the whole facility there. You can't"}, {"start": "00:57:25", "end": "00:57:29", "text": "be be anywhere in that facility. There's"}, {"start": "00:57:27", "end": "00:57:32", "text": "there's a camera on you and and a guard"}, {"start": "00:57:29", "end": "00:57:34", "text": "with an automatic weapon. Makes it very"}, {"start": "00:57:32", "end": "00:57:36", "text": "difficult to work there because uh the"}, {"start": "00:57:34", "end": "00:57:39", "text": "atmosphere is so oppressive with all"}, {"start": "00:57:36", "end": "00:57:43", "text": "these guards everywhere. And Bob Lazar"}, {"start": "00:57:39", "end": "00:57:45", "text": "said that u uh Bill U said that and Dr."}, {"start": "00:57:43", "end": "00:57:46", "text": "Bur Crane has said that too. It's it's"}, {"start": "00:57:45", "end": "00:57:49", "text": "really difficult to work there under"}, {"start": "00:57:46", "end": "00:57:53", "text": "those conditions and you know the"}, {"start": "00:57:49", "end": "00:57:57", "text": "scientists are paid well but um no"}, {"start": "00:57:53", "end": "00:58:00", "text": "amount of money can in my idea of way"}, {"start": "00:57:57", "end": "00:58:03", "text": "things should be u to have that kind of"}, {"start": "00:58:00", "end": "00:58:05", "text": "oppressive uh oversight of your whole"}, {"start": "00:58:03", "end": "00:58:07", "text": "life the rest of your life because once"}, {"start": "00:58:05", "end": "00:58:09", "text": "you go there you sign those documents"}, {"start": "00:58:07", "end": "00:58:11", "text": "and you have a handler you have a"}, {"start": "00:58:09", "end": "00:58:13", "text": "handler that comes and checks on you"}, {"start": "00:58:11", "end": "00:58:15", "text": "once or twice a year and you have to"}, {"start": "00:58:13", "end": "00:58:16", "text": "undergo"}, {"start": "00:58:15", "end": "00:58:18", "text": "polygraph tests and you have to go"}, {"start": "00:58:16", "end": "00:58:22", "text": "through all kinds of things because they"}, {"start": "00:58:18", "end": "00:58:24", "text": "want to keep this wrapped up and I it"}, {"start": "00:58:22", "end": "00:58:27", "text": "it's terrible. It's a crime against"}, {"start": "00:58:24", "end": "00:58:28", "text": "science that they're um they have these"}, {"start": "00:58:27", "end": "00:58:30", "text": "scientists. I know a lot of other"}, {"start": "00:58:28", "end": "00:58:33", "text": "facilities where scientists are doing"}, {"start": "00:58:30", "end": "00:58:35", "text": "things and uh it's very difficult for"}, {"start": "00:58:33", "end": "00:58:37", "text": "them to to work under those conditions."}, {"start": "00:58:35", "end": "00:58:39", "text": "Doesn't matter how much money you make."}, {"start": "00:58:37", "end": "00:58:40", "text": ">> Let me ask you this, Ron. Um you're"}, {"start": "00:58:39", "end": "00:58:42", "text": "releasing a lot of sensitive"}, {"start": "00:58:40", "end": "00:58:43", "text": "information. I don't know if you've"}, {"start": "00:58:42", "end": "00:58:46", "text": "covered this uh yet or not, but have you"}, {"start": "00:58:43", "end": "00:58:48", "text": "ever been threatened in any way with all"}, {"start": "00:58:46", "end": "00:58:51", "text": "this information on the"}, {"start": "00:58:48", "end": "00:58:54", "text": ">> Yeah, my my my car was broken into three"}, {"start": "00:58:51", "end": "00:58:57", "text": "times. Master tapes were stolen."}, {"start": "00:58:54", "end": "00:59:00", "text": "Um I think one of them was a actual"}, {"start": "00:58:57", "end": "00:59:02", "text": "vandalism, but the other two I'm certain"}, {"start": "00:59:00", "end": "00:59:06", "text": "were black cops"}, {"start": "00:59:02", "end": "00:59:10", "text": "and uh they uh I told Dr. Burish about"}, {"start": "00:59:06", "end": "00:59:12", "text": "that, but Dr. Burish was in 2005, the"}, {"start": "00:59:10", "end": "00:59:14", "text": "spring, he was on the board of Majestic"}, {"start": "00:59:12", "end": "00:59:17", "text": "12. He was number nine, the Majestic"}, {"start": "00:59:14", "end": "00:59:20", "text": "organization. And when I told him in '05"}, {"start": "00:59:17", "end": "00:59:23", "text": "that I had a little bit of harassment,"}, {"start": "00:59:20", "end": "00:59:24", "text": "he put the order out and the stand down."}, {"start": "00:59:23", "end": "00:59:26", "text": "As far as I'm concerned, I haven't had"}, {"start": "00:59:24", "end": "00:59:29", "text": "any trouble since then."}, {"start": "00:59:26", "end": "00:59:32", "text": ">> So, some on some level they're agreeing"}, {"start": "00:59:29", "end": "00:59:34", "text": "that you let this information out then."}, {"start": "00:59:32", "end": "00:59:39", "text": ">> Yeah. Well, when he was on the Majestic"}, {"start": "00:59:34", "end": "00:59:42", "text": "12 committee uh in April of '05, he he"}, {"start": "00:59:39", "end": "00:59:45", "text": "called for a vote and the vote was uh 6"}, {"start": "00:59:42", "end": "00:59:47", "text": "to5 for disclosure. There's one"}, {"start": "00:59:45", "end": "00:59:49", "text": "abstension because it has to do with the"}, {"start": "00:59:47", "end": "00:59:52", "text": "protocols of the Freemasons. They don't"}, {"start": "00:59:49", "end": "00:59:54", "text": "want to tie basically. So then in"}, {"start": "00:59:52", "end": "00:59:57", "text": "September of '05, the vote was taken"}, {"start": "00:59:54", "end": "00:59:59", "text": "again. This time was 8 to three for"}, {"start": "00:59:57", "end": "01:00:01", "text": "disclosure for him. Now people get"}, {"start": "00:59:59", "end": "01:00:03", "text": "confused. They say, \"Well, if they voted"}, {"start": "01:00:01", "end": "01:00:06", "text": "for it, no, it's not voted for the"}, {"start": "01:00:03", "end": "01:00:08", "text": "committee itself. It's for Dr. Dan Bur's"}, {"start": "01:00:06", "end": "01:00:10", "text": "crane to release the information, tell"}, {"start": "01:00:08", "end": "01:00:14", "text": "the world.\" And I have the actual uh"}, {"start": "01:00:10", "end": "01:00:16", "text": "documents from Admiral McConnell uh that"}, {"start": "01:00:14", "end": "01:00:18", "text": "is directing and ordering uh is"}, {"start": "01:00:16", "end": "01:00:20", "text": "basically his subordinate Dr. Bur to"}, {"start": "01:00:18", "end": "01:00:23", "text": "tell the world. So that's what we're"}, {"start": "01:00:20", "end": "01:00:24", "text": "doing now. Uh how could I get all this"}, {"start": "01:00:23", "end": "01:00:26", "text": "information about the most secret part"}, {"start": "01:00:24", "end": "01:00:27", "text": "of most secret base unless somebody"}, {"start": "01:00:26", "end": "01:00:29", "text": "wanted it out,"}, {"start": "01:00:27", "end": "01:00:31", "text": ">> right? There were leaks along the way"}, {"start": "01:00:29", "end": "01:00:34", "text": "and that and people were harmed and"}, {"start": "01:00:31", "end": "01:00:37", "text": "people and untimely deaths, but but I"}, {"start": "01:00:34", "end": "01:00:39", "text": "haven't had any trouble since so far."}, {"start": "01:00:37", "end": "01:00:41", "text": ">> You know, Ron, before we went on air, we"}, {"start": "01:00:39", "end": "01:00:43", "text": "were talking about several things. One"}, {"start": "01:00:41", "end": "01:00:45", "text": "you just mentioned about that vote for"}, {"start": "01:00:43", "end": "01:00:48", "text": "disclosure. We talked about a couple"}, {"start": "01:00:45", "end": "01:00:50", "text": "movies, the movie V, uh, Independence"}, {"start": "01:00:48", "end": "01:00:52", "text": "Day and Avatar. How does that fit in"}, {"start": "01:00:50", "end": "01:00:57", "text": "with what's going on?"}, {"start": "01:00:52", "end": "01:00:59", "text": "Well, uh I I've been in film uh uh you"}, {"start": "01:00:57", "end": "01:01:03", "text": "know and involved in film at various"}, {"start": "01:00:59", "end": "01:01:04", "text": "levels my whole life. I was a uh"}, {"start": "01:01:03", "end": "01:01:06", "text": "involved with various television"}, {"start": "01:01:04", "end": "01:01:10", "text": "programs as a line producer and so"}, {"start": "01:01:06", "end": "01:01:12", "text": "forth. I'm very keen about movies and"}, {"start": "01:01:10", "end": "01:01:15", "text": "the television series V and most of"}, {"start": "01:01:12", "end": "01:01:17", "text": "Hollywood wants the people to be afraid"}, {"start": "01:01:15", "end": "01:01:21", "text": "because that's how they sell tickets. So"}, {"start": "01:01:17", "end": "01:01:23", "text": "the whole V thing had to do with fear."}, {"start": "01:01:21", "end": "01:01:25", "text": "Now, very interesting about Independence"}, {"start": "01:01:23", "end": "01:01:26", "text": "Day. I have a lot to say about that. We"}, {"start": "01:01:25", "end": "01:01:30", "text": "probably don't have enough time in this"}, {"start": "01:01:26", "end": "01:01:32", "text": "segment, but uh the people, I don't know"}, {"start": "01:01:30", "end": "01:01:35", "text": "if you know, when they first decided to"}, {"start": "01:01:32", "end": "01:01:37", "text": "make the movie Independence Day, they"}, {"start": "01:01:35", "end": "01:01:39", "text": "went to the military and they solicited"}, {"start": "01:01:37", "end": "01:01:41", "text": "their their help and they said, \"Oh"}, {"start": "01:01:39", "end": "01:01:44", "text": "yeah, we'll help you.\" But then when"}, {"start": "01:01:41", "end": "01:01:46", "text": "they told about it was Area 51, then the"}, {"start": "01:01:44", "end": "01:01:49", "text": "military backed off. So the the"}, {"start": "01:01:46", "end": "01:01:53", "text": "producers of the movie area of"}, {"start": "01:01:49", "end": "01:01:55", "text": "Independence Day had to use uh National"}, {"start": "01:01:53", "end": "01:01:58", "text": "Guard troops uh for the scenes in the"}, {"start": "01:01:55", "end": "01:02:00", "text": "movie. So uh and there's another"}, {"start": "01:01:58", "end": "01:02:03", "text": "important thing. I've never told this"}, {"start": "01:02:00", "end": "01:02:05", "text": "before in public, but I'll I'll release"}, {"start": "01:02:03", "end": "01:02:09", "text": "it now."}, {"start": "01:02:05", "end": "01:02:11", "text": "At Area 51, they have what they call the"}, {"start": "01:02:09", "end": "01:02:13", "text": "wise men."}, {"start": "01:02:11", "end": "01:02:15", "text": "There are three older men that walk"}, {"start": "01:02:13", "end": "01:02:18", "text": "around in white coats and white socks"}, {"start": "01:02:15", "end": "01:02:22", "text": "and white shoes and they live there"}, {"start": "01:02:18", "end": "01:02:26", "text": "their whole life and it's their job to"}, {"start": "01:02:22", "end": "01:02:30", "text": "to try and make everything done uh in in"}, {"start": "01:02:26", "end": "01:02:32", "text": "a in a very uh you know professional"}, {"start": "01:02:30", "end": "01:02:35", "text": "way. But in the movie Independence Day,"}, {"start": "01:02:32", "end": "01:02:37", "text": "you remember when the president's going"}, {"start": "01:02:35", "end": "01:02:39", "text": "to view the craft and there's a"}, {"start": "01:02:37", "end": "01:02:41", "text": "scientist with long hair and a white"}, {"start": "01:02:39", "end": "01:02:43", "text": "coat and he runs up there and says, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "01:02:41", "end": "01:02:45", "text": "Mr. President, blah, blah, blah.\" Well,"}, {"start": "01:02:43", "end": "01:02:50", "text": "that was based actually on these wise"}, {"start": "01:02:45", "end": "01:02:52", "text": "men that actually live at Area 51 S4."}, {"start": "01:02:50", "end": "01:02:54", "text": ">> They approached Dr. Burries to be one of"}, {"start": "01:02:52", "end": "01:02:56", "text": "them, but he said no, he couldn't live"}, {"start": "01:02:54", "end": "01:02:58", "text": "there. It's it's like a commitment uh"}, {"start": "01:02:56", "end": "01:02:59", "text": "that he would never be able to stay"}, {"start": "01:02:58", "end": "01:03:02", "text": "there all the time. But these these"}, {"start": "01:02:59", "end": "01:03:04", "text": "three uh men they're there and they they"}, {"start": "01:03:02", "end": "01:03:07", "text": "live there as a permanent"}, {"start": "01:03:04", "end": "01:03:08", "text": ">> it's interesting with Independence Day."}, {"start": "01:03:07", "end": "01:03:10", "text": "Ronald Denmark was trying to get"}, {"start": "01:03:08", "end": "01:03:13", "text": "permission from the US military to you"}, {"start": "01:03:10", "end": "01:03:15", "text": "know fly get access to the aircraft"}, {"start": "01:03:13", "end": "01:03:16", "text": "carriers jets and uh they're ready to go"}, {"start": "01:03:15", "end": "01:03:18", "text": "for it. They were actually ready to"}, {"start": "01:03:16", "end": "01:03:21", "text": "participate uh you know because it was"}, {"start": "01:03:18", "end": "01:03:23", "text": "kind of go America had a good uh thing"}, {"start": "01:03:21", "end": "01:03:26", "text": "going for you know United States"}, {"start": "01:03:23", "end": "01:03:27", "text": "propaganda. Anyway, what happened was is"}, {"start": "01:03:26", "end": "01:03:30", "text": "that in the script they brought in the"}, {"start": "01:03:27", "end": "01:03:32", "text": "Area 51 scene and the Pentagon and the"}, {"start": "01:03:30", "end": "01:03:34", "text": "military said, \"Well, if you cut that"}, {"start": "01:03:32", "end": "01:03:37", "text": "scene out, we'll go ahead and help.\" But"}, {"start": "01:03:34", "end": "01:03:38", "text": "then the director standed strong and"}, {"start": "01:03:37", "end": "01:03:41", "text": "said, \"No, we're going to keep it in.\""}, {"start": "01:03:38", "end": "01:03:43", "text": "So, the military dropped out of any"}, {"start": "01:03:41", "end": "01:03:45", "text": "help. I think uh Joe Kieran has a"}, {"start": "01:03:43", "end": "01:03:46", "text": "question for you."}, {"start": "01:03:45", "end": "01:03:51", "text": ">> Okay. Hello, Joe."}, {"start": "01:03:46", "end": "01:03:54", "text": ">> Yeah. Yes. Hi. uh where in in Arizona"}, {"start": "01:03:51", "end": "01:03:57", "text": "where JRod's craft had crashed uh"}, {"start": "01:03:54", "end": "01:03:59", "text": "there's a lot of people that are uh that"}, {"start": "01:03:57", "end": "01:04:01", "text": "raised the questions that that they're"}, {"start": "01:03:59", "end": "01:04:03", "text": "also there for a lot of particular"}, {"start": "01:04:01", "end": "01:04:04", "text": "minerals that are necessary for them in"}, {"start": "01:04:03", "end": "01:04:08", "text": "the future."}, {"start": "01:04:04", "end": "01:04:10", "text": ">> U that's true. Are they are they also"}, {"start": "01:04:08", "end": "01:04:14", "text": "coming here with interest for for"}, {"start": "01:04:10", "end": "01:04:16", "text": "elements for uh for protection of their"}, {"start": "01:04:14", "end": "01:04:17", "text": "own species in the future or something"}, {"start": "01:04:16", "end": "01:04:20", "text": "that was not"}, {"start": "01:04:17", "end": "01:04:22", "text": ">> the main the main element is boron."}, {"start": "01:04:20", "end": "01:04:24", "text": "Boron is very valuable. There's only"}, {"start": "01:04:22", "end": "01:04:26", "text": "like two or three places on earth that"}, {"start": "01:04:24", "end": "01:04:28", "text": "has it"}, {"start": "01:04:26", "end": "01:04:30", "text": ">> and I think uh at China Lake is where"}, {"start": "01:04:28", "end": "01:04:33", "text": "there's a lot of it in that general, you"}, {"start": "01:04:30", "end": "01:04:35", "text": "know, area between California and"}, {"start": "01:04:33", "end": "01:04:36", "text": "Nevada. So yeah, boron is very"}, {"start": "01:04:35", "end": "01:04:38", "text": "important."}, {"start": "01:04:36", "end": "01:04:40", "text": ">> So the heavy the heavy metal groups"}, {"start": "01:04:38", "end": "01:04:41", "text": "would be most important."}, {"start": "01:04:40", "end": "01:04:43", "text": ">> Well, I can"}, {"start": "01:04:41", "end": "01:04:46", "text": ">> Yeah, there I have other people that um"}, {"start": "01:04:43", "end": "01:04:49", "text": "have had discovered uranium mines in"}, {"start": "01:04:46", "end": "01:04:51", "text": "Europe between France and Spain that the"}, {"start": "01:04:49", "end": "01:04:55", "text": "ancient people thousands of year ancient"}, {"start": "01:04:51", "end": "01:04:58", "text": "aliens were digging out uranium there. I"}, {"start": "01:04:55", "end": "01:05:00", "text": "have that from other sources. But yeah,"}, {"start": "01:04:58", "end": "01:05:03", "text": "there's different minerals and uh they"}, {"start": "01:05:00", "end": "01:05:06", "text": "they can take these things back to their"}, {"start": "01:05:03", "end": "01:05:09", "text": "uh their planet and uh I'm you know it's"}, {"start": "01:05:06", "end": "01:05:12", "text": "important to them and the gold is that"}, {"start": "01:05:09", "end": "01:05:14", "text": "it whole story."}, {"start": "01:05:12", "end": "01:05:15", "text": ">> I have I have no doubt that that's true"}, {"start": "01:05:14", "end": "01:05:18", "text": "because there's a very strong link"}, {"start": "01:05:15", "end": "01:05:21", "text": "between UFO sightings and landings and"}, {"start": "01:05:18", "end": "01:05:23", "text": "mines, you know, across the world."}, {"start": "01:05:21", "end": "01:05:25", "text": ">> Absolutely. I see that link. I was"}, {"start": "01:05:23", "end": "01:05:29", "text": "wondering if it was if it was somehow"}, {"start": "01:05:25", "end": "01:05:31", "text": "necessary for for uh for transportation"}, {"start": "01:05:29", "end": "01:05:32", "text": "for uh JRod and and his people to come"}, {"start": "01:05:31", "end": "01:05:34", "text": "back and forth."}, {"start": "01:05:32", "end": "01:05:37", "text": ">> No, no, not not those minerals. They"}, {"start": "01:05:34", "end": "01:05:39", "text": "they have uh the technology is Stargate."}, {"start": "01:05:37", "end": "01:05:42", "text": "That's what I call my company Stargate"}, {"start": "01:05:39", "end": "01:05:46", "text": "because that's the key to everything if"}, {"start": "01:05:42", "end": "01:05:50", "text": "you if you dig down into it. Uh Einstein"}, {"start": "01:05:46", "end": "01:05:52", "text": "Rosenbridge is a t the scientific name"}, {"start": "01:05:50", "end": "01:05:55", "text": "for this. So if you people can just"}, {"start": "01:05:52", "end": "01:05:57", "text": "Google that Einstein Rosen Rosenbridge"}, {"start": "01:05:55", "end": "01:06:01", "text": "phenomena,"}, {"start": "01:05:57", "end": "01:06:03", "text": "Miss Yukaku talks about it and uh all"}, {"start": "01:06:01", "end": "01:06:05", "text": "these wonderful movies, you know, like"}, {"start": "01:06:03", "end": "01:06:08", "text": "wormholes"}, {"start": "01:06:05", "end": "01:06:10", "text": "and sliders and and they're they're"}, {"start": "01:06:08", "end": "01:06:12", "text": "addressing that issue. I think these"}, {"start": "01:06:10", "end": "01:06:16", "text": "beings are coming and going through"}, {"start": "01:06:12", "end": "01:06:18", "text": "these different portals and uh you know"}, {"start": "01:06:16", "end": "01:06:21", "text": ">> it really makes time more more of a"}, {"start": "01:06:18", "end": "01:06:22", "text": "physical understanding."}, {"start": "01:06:21", "end": "01:06:24", "text": "That's right. And that's what I think"}, {"start": "01:06:22", "end": "01:06:27", "text": "that Hitler was doing too. Hitler's was"}, {"start": "01:06:24", "end": "01:06:29", "text": "was uh contacting these people. That's a"}, {"start": "01:06:27", "end": "01:06:32", "text": "whole another story which I don't want"}, {"start": "01:06:29", "end": "01:06:34", "text": "to get get into right now. But uh these"}, {"start": "01:06:32", "end": "01:06:36", "text": "beings were coming and going, you know,"}, {"start": "01:06:34", "end": "01:06:40", "text": "the Aryan race and he was studying the"}, {"start": "01:06:36", "end": "01:06:42", "text": "Bimmanas in in uh India and and going"}, {"start": "01:06:40", "end": "01:06:45", "text": "after the technology and Tibet and all"}, {"start": "01:06:42", "end": "01:06:48", "text": "that. History Channel uh has done a"}, {"start": "01:06:45", "end": "01:06:49", "text": "wonderful job in in exploring all that."}, {"start": "01:06:48", "end": "01:06:52", "text": "Yeah, he sure had a lot of the right"}, {"start": "01:06:49", "end": "01:06:54", "text": "pieces of the puzzle for for going in"}, {"start": "01:06:52", "end": "01:06:57", "text": "the right direction there."}, {"start": "01:06:54", "end": "01:06:58", "text": ">> Right. So, uh and this other series"}, {"start": "01:06:57", "end": "01:07:02", "text": "which a friend of mine's son is the"}, {"start": "01:06:58", "end": "01:07:05", "text": "editor of it. Uh uh uh UFO files"}, {"start": "01:07:02", "end": "01:07:09", "text": "disclosure disclosure. Uh it's on KTLA"}, {"start": "01:07:05", "end": "01:07:11", "text": "on channel 5 on Saturday nights at 11"}, {"start": "01:07:09", "end": "01:07:14", "text": "o'clock. A wonderful show. Just great"}, {"start": "01:07:11", "end": "01:07:15", "text": "information."}, {"start": "01:07:14", "end": "01:07:18", "text": "So getting out there and this this"}, {"start": "01:07:15", "end": "01:07:20", "text": "brings up the the issue which is that"}, {"start": "01:07:18", "end": "01:07:23", "text": "the ET people this is really important."}, {"start": "01:07:20", "end": "01:07:25", "text": "I'm glad I remember to say this. They've"}, {"start": "01:07:23", "end": "01:07:28", "text": "actually signed treaties with these"}, {"start": "01:07:25", "end": "01:07:31", "text": "beings and part of the treaty says that"}, {"start": "01:07:28", "end": "01:07:33", "text": "they must release this information. They"}, {"start": "01:07:31", "end": "01:07:38", "text": "changed the timeline at different times"}, {"start": "01:07:33", "end": "01:07:41", "text": "but uh the basic idea is the ET people"}, {"start": "01:07:38", "end": "01:07:43", "text": "uh want this information out and so"}, {"start": "01:07:41", "end": "01:07:46", "text": "that's the reason that Dr. liberation."}, {"start": "01:07:43", "end": "01:07:48", "text": "Bill UAS and Bob Lazar and myself and"}, {"start": "01:07:46", "end": "01:07:52", "text": "other people have this information"}, {"start": "01:07:48", "end": "01:07:53", "text": "because it's our job, our task to put"}, {"start": "01:07:52", "end": "01:07:55", "text": "this out to the public."}, {"start": "01:07:53", "end": "01:07:57", "text": ">> What is the timetable then? I mean, how"}, {"start": "01:07:55", "end": "01:07:59", "text": "long are we talking till we get full"}, {"start": "01:07:57", "end": "01:08:02", "text": "complete disclosure of all this?"}, {"start": "01:07:59", "end": "01:08:04", "text": ">> I I don't know that. I I've I've"}, {"start": "01:08:02", "end": "01:08:07", "text": "ruminated about that on my mind all the"}, {"start": "01:08:04", "end": "01:08:10", "text": "time. uh at different time frame time. I"}, {"start": "01:08:07", "end": "01:08:13", "text": "I think originally there was supposed to"}, {"start": "01:08:10", "end": "01:08:17", "text": "be a major disclosure in the 1980s"}, {"start": "01:08:13", "end": "01:08:21", "text": "because Linda How was uh contracted with"}, {"start": "01:08:17", "end": "01:08:24", "text": "HBO to uh get this information out and"}, {"start": "01:08:21", "end": "01:08:28", "text": "Richard Dod was you know and then they"}, {"start": "01:08:24", "end": "01:08:31", "text": "did that other series in ' 89."}, {"start": "01:08:28", "end": "01:08:32", "text": ">> So uh I think it was supposed to be but"}, {"start": "01:08:31", "end": "01:08:35", "text": "there's some reason that they had to"}, {"start": "01:08:32", "end": "01:08:36", "text": "change the timeline. I don't know. I"}, {"start": "01:08:35", "end": "01:08:38", "text": "know a little bit about it, but enough"}, {"start": "01:08:36", "end": "01:08:41", "text": "not enough to really discuss it on your"}, {"start": "01:08:38", "end": "01:08:44", "text": "air here. But there there is there is a"}, {"start": "01:08:41", "end": "01:08:45", "text": "time frame and that uh part of what the"}, {"start": "01:08:44", "end": "01:08:48", "text": "military is concerned about is a"}, {"start": "01:08:45", "end": "01:08:52", "text": "convergent timeline paradox because when"}, {"start": "01:08:48", "end": "01:08:54", "text": "you change something, it isn't that the"}, {"start": "01:08:52", "end": "01:08:58", "text": "kill your grandfather idea. It's the"}, {"start": "01:08:54", "end": "01:09:01", "text": "idea that a new uh time continuum"}, {"start": "01:08:58", "end": "01:09:03", "text": "starts. So you may kill your"}, {"start": "01:09:01", "end": "01:09:05", "text": "grandfather, but he he still lives in"}, {"start": "01:09:03", "end": "01:09:08", "text": "another uh dimension. And that's and"}, {"start": "01:09:05", "end": "01:09:10", "text": "that's very confusing. And so when they"}, {"start": "01:09:08", "end": "01:09:13", "text": "change the timeline,"}, {"start": "01:09:10", "end": "01:09:15", "text": "uh it's very dangerous. And that's why"}, {"start": "01:09:13", "end": "01:09:20", "text": "part of the reason that they confiscated"}, {"start": "01:09:15", "end": "01:09:22", "text": "these um Stargate technology and it's"}, {"start": "01:09:20", "end": "01:09:24", "text": "hooked up with the Looking Glass. On my"}, {"start": "01:09:22", "end": "01:09:26", "text": "site, you can I have a a brief"}, {"start": "01:09:24", "end": "01:09:30", "text": "description of the Looking Glass."}, {"start": "01:09:26", "end": "01:09:33", "text": "Looking Glass has cameras, four of them,"}, {"start": "01:09:30", "end": "01:09:36", "text": "and they have noble gases, argon and"}, {"start": "01:09:33", "end": "01:09:39", "text": "other things, and they project in there,"}, {"start": "01:09:36", "end": "01:09:41", "text": "and they can see approximations of the"}, {"start": "01:09:39", "end": "01:09:46", "text": "future and past events."}, {"start": "01:09:41", "end": "01:09:49", "text": "So, uh, and also if it's if it's rotated"}, {"start": "01:09:46", "end": "01:09:51", "text": "in 45 degrees, it can be a teleportation"}, {"start": "01:09:49", "end": "01:09:56", "text": "device, too. I don't know a lot about"}, {"start": "01:09:51", "end": "01:10:01", "text": "that but uh this technology is just uh"}, {"start": "01:09:56", "end": "01:10:04", "text": "burging out and um uh the whole UFO"}, {"start": "01:10:01", "end": "01:10:07", "text": "community needs to focus on my site and"}, {"start": "01:10:04", "end": "01:10:08", "text": "and uh the other sites on citizens"}, {"start": "01:10:07", "end": "01:10:10", "text": "hearing they did a wonder the"}, {"start": "01:10:08", "end": "01:10:13", "text": "whistleblowers that were there I"}, {"start": "01:10:10", "end": "01:10:14", "text": "eventually I want to"}, {"start": "01:10:13", "end": "01:10:17", "text": "have a hall of fame for these"}, {"start": "01:10:14", "end": "01:10:19", "text": "whistleblowers that have come forward"}, {"start": "01:10:17", "end": "01:10:22", "text": "you know risking life and limb and their"}, {"start": "01:10:19", "end": "01:10:24", "text": "of their families and everything uh to"}, {"start": "01:10:22", "end": "01:10:26", "text": "get this information out and now it's"}, {"start": "01:10:24", "end": "01:10:28", "text": "it's it's really flowing big time. This"}, {"start": "01:10:26", "end": "01:10:30", "text": "I think this year could be the year that"}, {"start": "01:10:28", "end": "01:10:34", "text": "we have disclosure."}, {"start": "01:10:30", "end": "01:10:39", "text": "John Podesta has said it. Um Steven"}, {"start": "01:10:34", "end": "01:10:42", "text": "Basset is has made a quite a a plea to"}, {"start": "01:10:39", "end": "01:10:44", "text": "Podesta to have Podesta and his group"}, {"start": "01:10:42", "end": "01:10:47", "text": "release this information because he he"}, {"start": "01:10:44", "end": "01:10:50", "text": "wrote a forward to Leslie Keane's book."}, {"start": "01:10:47", "end": "01:10:54", "text": "He was uh you know the transition head"}, {"start": "01:10:50", "end": "01:10:57", "text": "for Obama and he was head of Clinton's"}, {"start": "01:10:54", "end": "01:11:00", "text": "uh administration. So he's a key figure"}, {"start": "01:10:57", "end": "01:11:03", "text": "and I'm hoping that John Podesta will"}, {"start": "01:11:00", "end": "01:11:06", "text": "give the green light to uh UFO"}, {"start": "01:11:03", "end": "01:11:08", "text": "researchers and and and put his weight"}, {"start": "01:11:06", "end": "01:11:10", "text": "behind the disclosure. I'm hoping that"}, {"start": "01:11:08", "end": "01:11:11", "text": "he will."}, {"start": "01:11:10", "end": "01:11:13", "text": ">> You know, Ron, I wanted to ask you about"}, {"start": "01:11:11", "end": "01:11:15", "text": "the citizens hearing. I I was a little"}, {"start": "01:11:13", "end": "01:11:18", "text": "pessimistic going in because you know"}, {"start": "01:11:15", "end": "01:11:20", "text": "they Stan Freriedman and Gordon Cooper"}, {"start": "01:11:18", "end": "01:11:23", "text": "and others testified in front of the"}, {"start": "01:11:20", "end": "01:11:24", "text": "Congress in 1968. But this time it was a"}, {"start": "01:11:23", "end": "01:11:27", "text": "little different because over the course"}, {"start": "01:11:24", "end": "01:11:30", "text": "of the 5 days you saw the transformation"}, {"start": "01:11:27", "end": "01:11:32", "text": "from skeptics to true believers that"}, {"start": "01:11:30", "end": "01:11:35", "text": "something is going on and some"}, {"start": "01:11:32", "end": "01:11:36", "text": "civilizations plural are visiting us. Do"}, {"start": "01:11:35", "end": "01:11:39", "text": "you think this is going to have a major"}, {"start": "01:11:36", "end": "01:11:41", "text": "impact in disclosure? I mean, what's it"}, {"start": "01:11:39", "end": "01:11:43", "text": "going to take to get disclosure to"}, {"start": "01:11:41", "end": "01:11:45", "text": "happen this year?"}, {"start": "01:11:43", "end": "01:11:47", "text": ">> Well, I had a long talk with Stephen"}, {"start": "01:11:45", "end": "01:11:50", "text": "Bassid just today about that that I"}, {"start": "01:11:47", "end": "01:11:53", "text": "think uh I was concerned as you were"}, {"start": "01:11:50", "end": "01:11:56", "text": "that the Congress people uh that were"}, {"start": "01:11:53", "end": "01:11:58", "text": "going to be chosen, you know, would give"}, {"start": "01:11:56", "end": "01:12:01", "text": "a big yawn, but they're they was it was"}, {"start": "01:11:58", "end": "01:12:03", "text": "jaw-dropping. They were transfixed. You"}, {"start": "01:12:01", "end": "01:12:06", "text": "know, it was amazing how that"}, {"start": "01:12:03", "end": "01:12:09", "text": "information flowed into their minds and"}, {"start": "01:12:06", "end": "01:12:11", "text": "especially Burroughs and Penniston from"}, {"start": "01:12:09", "end": "01:12:13", "text": "Grlesson Forest and they got behind"}, {"start": "01:12:11", "end": "01:12:15", "text": "that. They they want to help them get"}, {"start": "01:12:13", "end": "01:12:17", "text": "their records out from the Air Force."}, {"start": "01:12:15", "end": "01:12:20", "text": "They were really engaged and I'm hoping"}, {"start": "01:12:17", "end": "01:12:23", "text": "this now will go to the UN. Uh when I"}, {"start": "01:12:20", "end": "01:12:25", "text": "talked to Steven Basset today, he said"}, {"start": "01:12:23", "end": "01:12:27", "text": "they're pursuing that. I have some"}, {"start": "01:12:25", "end": "01:12:30", "text": "strong connections in the UN. I I can"}, {"start": "01:12:27", "end": "01:12:33", "text": "really be beneficial about that. And uh"}, {"start": "01:12:30", "end": "01:12:37", "text": "the someone said that there was a a"}, {"start": "01:12:33", "end": "01:12:41", "text": "protocol back in ' 68 uh where they they"}, {"start": "01:12:37", "end": "01:12:45", "text": "could use that now to open up uh certain"}, {"start": "01:12:41", "end": "01:12:47", "text": "committee or uh you know with the UN."}, {"start": "01:12:45", "end": "01:12:49", "text": "I I could have brought I I I could have"}, {"start": "01:12:47", "end": "01:12:51", "text": "brought a lot of other people from other"}, {"start": "01:12:49", "end": "01:12:54", "text": "countries that I've researched but there"}, {"start": "01:12:51", "end": "01:12:56", "text": "wasn't that much time. But the people"}, {"start": "01:12:54", "end": "01:12:59", "text": "they had it was just perfect. I I"}, {"start": "01:12:56", "end": "01:13:02", "text": "couldn't uh agree with you more. It it"}, {"start": "01:12:59", "end": "01:13:04", "text": "was just wonderful the the panel and"}, {"start": "01:13:02", "end": "01:13:06", "text": "every I think this is a game changer. I"}, {"start": "01:13:04", "end": "01:13:09", "text": "really do. So many of the the X"}, {"start": "01:13:06", "end": "01:13:12", "text": "conferences and the conferences that go"}, {"start": "01:13:09", "end": "01:13:14", "text": "on or press conferences for a couple"}, {"start": "01:13:12", "end": "01:13:16", "text": "hours and it's gone. But this is five"}, {"start": "01:13:14", "end": "01:13:18", "text": "days and it's archived. It's going to be"}, {"start": "01:13:16", "end": "01:13:20", "text": "in five different languages."}, {"start": "01:13:18", "end": "01:13:23", "text": "I can't see how it's it's not going to"}, {"start": "01:13:20", "end": "01:13:25", "text": "make a major contribution"}, {"start": "01:13:23", "end": "01:13:27", "text": "uh to disclosure. But at the same time,"}, {"start": "01:13:25", "end": "01:13:30", "text": "we have to know the media is infiltrated"}, {"start": "01:13:27", "end": "01:13:33", "text": "by intelligence people and they put a"}, {"start": "01:13:30", "end": "01:13:35", "text": "kaibos on it. Uh, you know, Terry"}, {"start": "01:13:33", "end": "01:13:36", "text": "Hansen, I would like to have had him. He"}, {"start": "01:13:35", "end": "01:13:41", "text": "wrote a book about all this about the"}, {"start": "01:13:36", "end": "01:13:42", "text": "media and the intelligence groups. Uh,"}, {"start": "01:13:41", "end": "01:13:44", "text": ">> go ahead."}, {"start": "01:13:42", "end": "01:13:45", "text": ">> I just wanted to say we're getting near"}, {"start": "01:13:44", "end": "01:13:47", "text": "the end of the show. We have a, you"}, {"start": "01:13:45", "end": "01:13:49", "text": "know, few minutes left. I wanted to uh"}, {"start": "01:13:47", "end": "01:13:51", "text": "mention everybody check out the Alien"}, {"start": "01:13:49", "end": "01:13:52", "text": "Project. The Roger Lair"}, {"start": "01:13:51", "end": "01:13:54", "text": ">> Alien Human Project."}, {"start": "01:13:52", "end": "01:13:56", "text": ">> The Alien Human Project. Excuse me."}, {"start": "01:13:54", "end": "01:13:58", "text": "Right there at third phase moon. Roger"}, {"start": "01:13:56", "end": "01:14:00", "text": "Lear removing extraterrestrial implants"}, {"start": "01:13:58", "end": "01:14:03", "text": "from abductees. Check it out. Also,"}, {"start": "01:14:00", "end": "01:14:07", "text": ">> let me inject something here. Uh do Dr."}, {"start": "01:14:03", "end": "01:14:10", "text": "Roger Lear gave Dr. Dan Burish one of"}, {"start": "01:14:07", "end": "01:14:11", "text": "the implants and Dr. Roger Leer, he says"}, {"start": "01:14:10", "end": "01:14:15", "text": "it on my site. You can go to"}, {"start": "01:14:11", "end": "01:14:18", "text": "testimonials that Dr. uh Burish cream"}, {"start": "01:14:15", "end": "01:14:20", "text": "gave the best analysis of implant of"}, {"start": "01:14:18", "end": "01:14:22", "text": "anybody that he's ever taken it to in"}, {"start": "01:14:20", "end": "01:14:23", "text": "the past. And I have it on my site. You"}, {"start": "01:14:22", "end": "01:14:25", "text": "can download it"}, {"start": "01:14:23", "end": "01:14:27", "text": ">> and we're going to have Dr. Burish here"}, {"start": "01:14:25", "end": "01:14:30", "text": "soon one day, right?"}, {"start": "01:14:27", "end": "01:14:32", "text": ">> I could work it out. Yes. So, we have to"}, {"start": "01:14:30", "end": "01:14:33", "text": "develop certain protocols, but"}, {"start": "01:14:32", "end": "01:14:36", "text": ">> yeah, for sure we will."}, {"start": "01:14:33", "end": "01:14:37", "text": ">> Do you think we can get Bob Lazar on as"}, {"start": "01:14:36", "end": "01:14:39", "text": "well"}, {"start": "01:14:37", "end": "01:14:42", "text": ">> in the right situation? I I could I'm"}, {"start": "01:14:39", "end": "01:14:44", "text": "good friends with John Leer and um and"}, {"start": "01:14:42", "end": "01:14:47", "text": "that's a long story, but it it it could"}, {"start": "01:14:44", "end": "01:14:49", "text": "happen. Yeah. Uh but he he's you know,"}, {"start": "01:14:47", "end": "01:14:52", "text": "that's the thing about Dr. Burish. He's"}, {"start": "01:14:49", "end": "01:14:54", "text": "a scientist and uh Babazar is a"}, {"start": "01:14:52", "end": "01:14:56", "text": "scientist and they don't want to write"}, {"start": "01:14:54", "end": "01:14:57", "text": "books and give conferences and make"}, {"start": "01:14:56", "end": "01:15:00", "text": "videos. They just want to do their"}, {"start": "01:14:57", "end": "01:15:01", "text": "science. So they don't want to be pulled"}, {"start": "01:15:00", "end": "01:15:04", "text": "away from their scientific endeavors."}, {"start": "01:15:01", "end": "01:15:05", "text": "And in the case of Dr. Bur Crane, that's"}, {"start": "01:15:04", "end": "01:15:10", "text": "different because he's been ordered by"}, {"start": "01:15:05", "end": "01:15:10", "text": "Majestic to get this information out."}]

[{"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "Welcome back to Third Phase of Moon."}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "You've got Blake and Brent Cousins, and"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "we've got the crazy videos coming in"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "from around the world. You're looking at"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "something 13 years ago of a massive"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "craft. We're going to break it down, but"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "let's just roll the raw video right now."}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "All right, you just witnessed one of the"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "most incredible videos in the third"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "phase of moon archive captured over 13"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "years ago. There's no AI CGI. What we're"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "looking at is something incredible. Some"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "people might call it a lighthouse in the"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "background. Maybe a helicopter or an"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "airport tower. We ran this through AI,"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "told it to take a close look at at it,"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "see if you saw any kind of manipulation."}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "This is what we dubb to say."}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "Vector analysis. A shinook or standard"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "helicopter has a distinct mechanical"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "vibration and a gradual acceleration"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "curve due to the physics of rotor lift."}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "The object above the house exhibits a"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "snap in its left to right movement that"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "lacks the inertial drag associated with"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "large military airframes."}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "Hover to sprint transition. The craft"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "maintains a stable hover with zero drift"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "uncommon for helicopters in low altitude"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "winds before accelerating at a rate that"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "would subject a pilot to extreme G"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "forces."}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "Tower inconsistency."}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "The airport tower theory is invalidated"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "by the parallax effect. As the camera"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "moves, the object shifts its position"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "relative to the foreground roof line in"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "a way that proves it is a free floating"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "entity, not a fixed structure."}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "Two, audio analysis,"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "the silent drive."}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "The most striking evidence against a"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "helicopter is the acoustic profile,"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "decibel deficiency."}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "A helicopter operating so low to the"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "ground would produce a sound pressure"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "level between 80 to 100 dB, which would"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "easily blow out the microphone on a"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "10-year-old camera instead of the"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "rhythmic thumping of twin rotors"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "distinctive to Chinooks. The audio"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "captures clear ambient night sounds"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "indicating no significant acoustic"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "displacement from the craft."}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "Three, visual effects and CGI audit."}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "When rolling out AI to detect tampering,"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "there are several metadata markers in"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "the light itself that suggest a physical"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "presence rather than a digital overlay."}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "Phototric interaction. The green and red"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "light sources from the craft create a"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "faint bloom and reflection on the"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "surrounding atmospheric moisture haze."}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "In early 2010's CGI, matching light wrap"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "and grain consistency between a"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "high-noise night plate and a digital"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "asset was incredibly difficult and often"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "resulted in sliding, where the UFO looks"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "like it's floating on the screen rather"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "than in the scene."}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "When the craft's glow passes behind the"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "power lines, it mathematically"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "eliminates the possibility of it being a"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "digital overlay or a small drone close"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "to the lens. It proves the object has a"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "massive physical presence positioned"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "deep in the background."}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "Geometric scaling. By using the standard"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "distance between utility poles and the"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "height of the residential roof line as a"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "reference, your estimate of 30 to 45 ft"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "is highly logical. If it were a small"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "object, it wouldn't have the looming"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "presence that fills the gap between the"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "house and the upper wires."}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "Sensor artifacts."}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "The lights exhibit natural lens flare"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "and bleeding into the camera's seamos"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "sensor pixels."}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "Why dismissal is a logical fallacy. To"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "label this as fake requires ignoring the"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "environmental interaction."}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "The proximity factor. The craft is"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "positioned at an altitude where downwash"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "from a helicopter would visibly disturb"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "the trees or structure of the home. No"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "such turbulence is seen. Conclusion."}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "This is a power-hitting piece of"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "evidence because it satisfies the three"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "pillars of UAP sightings."}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "Instantaneous acceleration,"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "low observability, silent flight, and"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "positive environmental integration."}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "Dismissing it as a helicopter or tower"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "requires one to ignore the basic laws of"}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "acoustics and perspective captured in"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "the raw footage."}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "Absolutely. Looking at the raw footage,"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "AI broke it down. No manipulation, no"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "AI, no CGI. What we're looking at is"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "authentic video. Brent, what do you make"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "of it? Well, it's really badass because"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "you can see this thing. It's not"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "stationary. The craft moves from right"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "to left. And it actually goes from left"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "to right at a point. You can see it"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "clearly behind the power lines and the"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "trees. This thing's massive. Look at it."}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "You can see it move slide right there."}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "Watch."}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "And there's the stability of this craft."}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "It's not oscillating like a Shnook"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "helicopter or any kind of helicopter. It"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "looks like maybe the most highest tech"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "drone right now. It kind of reminds me"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "of the the New Jersey sightings that"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "happened a year or two ago. This could"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "be the technology what we're looking at"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "right here."}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "Yeah. According to AI, this craft it's"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "massive and it's not a helicopter."}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "He he could have said it might have been"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "a drone, but whatever kind of drone this"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "is, it's it's huge. And wouldn't it be"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "nice that finally we get some disclosure"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "from the government? I I'm not holding"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "my breath. Recently, Donald Trump made a"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "statement with regards to him rolling"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "out disclosure or these UFO videos that"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "have been in the archives or hidden from"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "the public for a long time. He's he's"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "basically threatening that he's going to"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "release it. We'll see if that happens."}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "But uh according to some of the"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "statements here, I don't know if the"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "president is really, uh zero point on"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "his"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "on his thought process of what"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "disclosure means to us. And we'll get"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "back to that. We just want to hear what"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "he had to say and then uh you're going"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "to understand kind of the statement from"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "his statements. Brent, what do you make"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "of this uh recent drop?"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:20", "text": ">> Yeah, it's kind of a capturing"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "everybody's attention. They think this"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "is disclosure, but it sounds like our"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "president right now doesn't think"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "disclosure exists. I'm not sure. There's"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "a mis message or mixed message in in"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "this delivery. Let's listen uh to what"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "our president had to say just a couple"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "days ago."}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "As you remember, I recently directed the"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "Secretary of War, How Good is Pete"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "Hexath doing, by the way,"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "to begin releasing government files"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "relating to UFOs and unexplained aerial"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "phenomena."}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "And I figured this was a good crowd"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "because I know you people, you're really"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "into that. I don't know if I am, but So,"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "I'm pleased to report today. I thought"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "I'd save it for this crowd cuz you're a"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "little bit out there, you know, a little"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "bit"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "that this process is well underway and"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "we found many very interesting documents"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "I must say and the first releases will"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "begin very very soon. So you can go out"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "and see if that phenomena is correct."}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "You'll figure it out. Let me know. Let"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "me know. But we've had a lot of lot of"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "questions. It's uh it's something that"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "really captivates the mind. There's no"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "question. capture the mind, the"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "phenomenon. It's huge. It happens all"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "the time. But I think the president's"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "missing the ball here. It's been"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "suppressed. It's been this whole idea of"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "the technology not being disclosed to"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "the public. And even the president"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "doesn't even know about it. It even"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "almost sounds like he doesn't know"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "anything about it until maybe these"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "recent videos. He said there's some"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "interesting things in there. But we're"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "talking about the technology. the"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "technology suppressed from the people"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "that could change the world overnight."}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "That's I think what everybody's"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "interested in. I think everybody that"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "watches Third Phase of Moon already"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:13", "text": "knows that we're not alone. The proof is"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:15", "text": "there. We've been showing you the"}, {"start": "00:10:13", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "smoking gun footage uh this past week."}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "It's been incredible. I urge everybody"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "to share this link and our recent videos"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "on your social media. But down to the"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "president, I I just I don't think he's"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "read in yet. Yeah. Like it's not about"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "ET or little green men or aliens. It's"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "not about that. It's about what you"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "said, the technology that is in our"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "hands. Actually, I think that first"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "video that you just saw in this episode,"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "it's probably ours. It looks like art"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "our tech, but it's reverse engineered"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "and it's so high class. It's they got"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "the the means to get from point A to"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "point B from around the planet probably"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "in about 2 minutes. Who who wouldn't"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "want that out there for personal safe"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "safe travel? Sure, it could be used as a"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "missile, but hey, we need to know some"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "information. I don't know if the"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:10", "text": "president really uh it seems like"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "he's like he doesn't believe in it"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "himself. He's not very interested, let's"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "just say. Yeah, very interesting. Kind"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "of underwhelming from the president."}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "But there is an alert and it's weird"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "because the White House is now"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "investigating missing scientists and"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "there have been a few scientists with"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "regards to propulsion working in heavy"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "duty uh aerospace engineers but now"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:49", "text": "they're going missing."}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "Right now, the White House says it is"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "looking into the mysterious string of"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "disappearances and deaths of at least 10"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "high-profile American scientists. Now,"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "many of them tasked with studying UFOs"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:07", "text": "or nuclear research. All of them have"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "either died or mysteriously vanished"}, {"start": "00:12:07", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "dating back to"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:14", "text": ">> what's going on here. We have 10 missing"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "scientists that have investigated UFOs"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "and they've worked pretty much, I"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "believe, in projects that the public's"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "not aware of. And now, right on the eve"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "of disclosure, what president is coming"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "out with and now these guys go missing."}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "I I don't know, man. Something fish is"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "going on. Yeah. Reminds me of a"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:35", "text": "Terminator Terminator 2 Skynet. And"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "they're they're out to kill the"}, {"start": "00:12:35", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "scientists because the technology is so"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "powerful. It's it's just too much for"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "the public to handle. Who knows? But"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "yeah, there's a it's a phenomenon. Look"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "at that. Look at that. 10 people. Listen"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "to this."}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "Eric Burlson, who is calling for the FBI"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "to get involved. Congressman, when did"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "you first find out about this?"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:00", "text": ">> Um, my office found out about it last"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "year. We sent a letter to the FBI about"}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "a gentleman named Matthew Sullivan who"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "actually we had reached out to um he was"}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "scheduled to come in for an interview."}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "Um, within two weeks, he he had um"}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "suspiciously committed suicide. That"}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "that report was uh referred to um the"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "Office of Inspector General. they they"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "deemed it credible and urgent. They they"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "then referred it to the FBI. So, this is"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "not the first that we've heard of this."}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "This is that was the first um that we we"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "became aware of. When I first came in, I"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "heard of another gentleman, and I'll"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "keep that name to, you know, out of"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "respect. um sent a letter to the FBI"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:42", "text": "investigating the suspicious um suicide"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "of another individual who had worked"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "alongside um you know other"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "whistleblowers like David Grush and Jake"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "Barber who had come forward. So their"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "colleague is mysteriously committed"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "suicide. We've already sent the letter"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "to the FBI to investigate that and that"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "is an ongoing investigation. So, it"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "looks like Trump vows answers on missing"}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:06", "text": "a dead scientist. And Eric Berles, he's"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "saying that uh we're going to get the"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "answers, but I don't know. Like Brent"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "said, does this kind of remind you of"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "Terminator 2, Skynet, when they're kind"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "of going back in the future and taking"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "out these future"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "scientists that could change the world,"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "maybe for the better, maybe for the"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "worse. But there's something suspicious"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "going on with regards to the"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "disappearance of these scientists and"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "the supposed disclosure coming in from"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "the top."}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "So now Anna Paulina remember she was"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "going to drop the videos the Pentagon"}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "were going to was going to give it to"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "her and is going to come out to the"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "public. It didn't happen. Well, she has"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:51", "text": "some recent statements. We're not in the"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "business of telling the American people"}, {"start": "00:14:51", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "what to believe, but I think once you"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "see this footage, once you realize that"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "the phenomena is real. Um, I think that"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:01", "text": "the fact that the president is pushing"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "for transparency, something that most"}, {"start": "00:15:01", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "people in the United States are very"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "curious about, just goes to show the"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "differences between this administration"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "and every single one previously. And so,"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "I'm very happy. We had actually"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "requested 46 documents specifically that"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "the Department of War seemed to have"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "lost our paperwork on. And then, um, we"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "did reach back out to them. Secretary"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:21", "text": "Hagathth of course have been great on"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "this issue and now with that"}, {"start": "00:15:21", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "announcement we're getting those"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:26", "text": ">> okay it seems like they're trying to"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "work it. They're going to get us the 46"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "plus videos that the world hasn't seen."}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "I don't know why they haven't dropped it"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "yet. Is this alien.gov"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "online even up and running? It seems"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "that that website has been down from the"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "very beginning that it's been stated"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "that it's been up. So I don't know guys"}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "what's your thoughts? Now, Casper site"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "had some interesting"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "suggestions and theories with regards to"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "the missing scientist, and we wanted to"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "see what Casper had to say. He did some"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "work and uh you know, he has big"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "questions as well. Where did these guys"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "go? What was their connection to"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "everything? And it all kind of leads to"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "the top. Well, in this graphic, down to"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "the bottom, the White House. But I don't"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "know. So, we're going to listen to what"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "Casper had to say and uh he did some"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "research. Everybody go take a look at"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:25", "text": "his channel, subscribe. He has a great"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "YouTube channel. And uh you know, let's"}, {"start": "00:16:25", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "see what Casper had to say with regards"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "to the cover up. What's going on here?"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "These are the people, right? I'm going"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "to show you another one as well, but"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "these are the people that have gone"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "missing. connected to space engineering."}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "Right now, a lot of people are saying"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:54", "text": "that this is connected to reverse"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "engineering or free energy of some sort."}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "Okay, this is this is all we've got,"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "right? This is all we've got really. And"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:06", "text": "yes, it's strange that these connected,"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "but what I've done as I've I've I've"}, {"start": "00:17:06", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "sort of edited this because it's these"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "could be any date ranges, right? People"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "die. There's thousands of people in"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "these in these companies, right? So,"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "these things happen. And is it a case of"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "where we want to? It's not like want to"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "maybe a couple of people came up where"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "it was like originally a bit of a"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:31", "text": "coincidence and then you sort of dig"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "deep into things and and find out more"}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "and you go, \"Oh, this is connected. This"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "is connected.\" And then you've found out"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "you've got a big mince pie. I don't know"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "where that came from, but anyway. Right."}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "So, uh, that's the original. These are"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "the dates, the years of when they went"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "missing. 2026, 23, 24, 25, 26, 25, 25,"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:57", "text": "25, 25, 25. All seems bit crazy that all"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "these people have disappeared within"}, {"start": "00:17:57", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "that space of time, especially in 2025."}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "We know about um William Neil uh"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "McCasten that I did a separate video on"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:08", "text": "which is a bit odd how he's just"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "disappeared and then this young lady"}, {"start": "00:18:08", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "straight afterwards right um in fact I"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "think she was actually before right she"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "also disappeared went hiking in the"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "woods and never came back now the latest"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:25", "text": "one we've got which so that's 10 there I"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:29", "text": "think four 5 6 7 8 9 10 yeah the latest"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "one that's just come up now is this lady"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:36", "text": "here. And this is really strange about"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "this one. Okay, now given this is a"}, {"start": "00:18:36", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "couple of years ago when she um died in"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "2022. Listen to this. A scientist um"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "experimenting with anti-gravity tech was"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "found dead at 34 after warning that her"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:55", "text": "life could be in danger. What?"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "Marking another mysterious case of"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:03", "text": "deaths and disappearances in recent"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "years. Amy Escridge was 34 years old"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "when she allegedly died from a"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:12", "text": "self-inflicted gunshot to the head in"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "Huntsville, Alabama on June 11th, 2022."}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "I mean, are we just going to keep on"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "digging up more of these weird"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:20", "text": "occurrences? However, neither of the"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:22", "text": "police nor the medical examiners have"}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "publicly released any details of her"}, {"start": "00:19:22", "end": "00:19:28", "text": "investigation ever taking place. Before"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "the death, she was openly researching"}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:33", "text": "and trying to develop anti-gravity"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:36", "text": "technology, a way to control or cancel"}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "out gravity which could revolutionize"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "space travel and uh energy production."}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "This is the 11th now."}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "So mainstream media, somebody asked"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "Donald Trump the question,"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:57", "text": ">> 10 missing scientists with access to"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "classified stuff, nuclear material,"}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "aerospace, they've all gone missing or"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "turned up dead in the last couple months"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "based on what you've been briefed. What"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:06", "text": "do you think is happening here? And do"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "you think that this is connected or"}, {"start": "00:20:06", "end": "00:20:10", "text": "totally random?"}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:11", "text": ">> Well, I hope it's random, but we're"}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:13", "text": "going to know in the next week and a"}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:16", "text": "half. I just left a meeting on that"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:18", "text": "subject. So, pretty serious stuff, but"}, {"start": "00:20:16", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "we're going to be not hopefully I don't"}, {"start": "00:20:18", "end": "00:20:22", "text": "know coincidence if you what whatever"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "you want to call it. But some of them"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "were very important people and we're"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:29", "text": "going to look at it over the next next."}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:30", "text": ">> So, not much information there. He says"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:36", "text": "he's obviously going to look into it."}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:40", "text": "Now one hand you've got anti-gravity"}, {"start": "00:20:36", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "which could then explain many of the UAP"}, {"start": "00:20:40", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "vision like evidence that we've we've"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "got so far"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:51", "text": "and also on the other end it could be"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "something to do with free energy. Now"}, {"start": "00:20:51", "end": "00:20:59", "text": "free energy has consequences to the"}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:21:02", "text": "world good and bad."}, {"start": "00:20:59", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "Well, financially for some people, but"}, {"start": "00:21:02", "end": "00:21:08", "text": "financially positive for others. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:10", "text": "I I I think we all know who is going to"}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:13", "text": "benefit and who is not going to benefit,"}, {"start": "00:21:10", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "right? Having free energy whether like"}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "you know there there's uh"}, {"start": "00:21:17", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "there's many documents out there that"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "says and proves that free energy is"}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:26", "text": "impossible. However, a lot of people"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "would argue against that, right?"}, {"start": "00:21:26", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "especially when you come to alien tech."}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "So, um I don't I'm in a bit of a I'm"}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:41", "text": "going to leave it to you guys to"}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:43", "text": "decipher what do you think this"}, {"start": "00:21:41", "end": "00:21:45", "text": "graph going to give him another shout"}, {"start": "00:21:43", "end": "00:21:48", "text": "out"}, {"start": "00:21:45", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "mystery world news is all about. How"}, {"start": "00:21:48", "end": "00:21:52", "text": "it's all linked together."}, {"start": "00:21:53", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "Is something going on?"}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:22:01", "text": "I mean, if you were to"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "if you were to add up every single"}, {"start": "00:22:01", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "employee, I'm just trying to play"}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:11", "text": "devil's advocate here now, okay? But if"}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "you were to add up every single employee"}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "throughout here,"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:18", "text": "right? How many people"}, {"start": "00:22:19", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "would that? In fact, let's let's maybe"}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:28", "text": "we could ask chat GBT."}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:33", "text": "So, Space Research, NASA, 18,000,"}, {"start": "00:22:28", "end": "00:22:37", "text": "uh, JPL 6,000, ColTtech 25,00"}, {"start": "00:22:33", "end": "00:22:40", "text": "um, we're looking at, if you add them"}, {"start": "00:22:37", "end": "00:22:43", "text": "together, noting some overlap, like Air"}, {"start": "00:22:40", "end": "00:22:46", "text": "Force. Okay. Uh, without adjustments,"}, {"start": "00:22:43", "end": "00:22:48", "text": "3.3 million. More realistic removing of"}, {"start": "00:22:46", "end": "00:22:51", "text": "major overlaps, DoD, Air Force. You're"}, {"start": "00:22:48", "end": "00:22:57", "text": "looking at half a mill. Half a million"}, {"start": "00:22:51", "end": "00:23:00", "text": "people. Okay. Does that make you think,"}, {"start": "00:22:57", "end": "00:23:03", "text": "yeah, okay, it's a coincidence"}, {"start": "00:23:00", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "if you got half a million people and"}, {"start": "00:23:03", "end": "00:23:06", "text": "some of them die,"}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:12", "text": "but then you've got to narrow it down a"}, {"start": "00:23:10", "end": "00:23:15", "text": "bit more because of their specific roles"}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:17", "text": "of what they were actually working on at"}, {"start": "00:23:15", "end": "00:23:22", "text": "the time in that company, right? That"}, {"start": "00:23:17", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "narrows it down even more. So then the"}, {"start": "00:23:22", "end": "00:23:28", "text": "coincidence turns out to be not so much"}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:34", "text": "of a coincidence. Also"}, {"start": "00:23:28", "end": "00:23:38", "text": "in mysterious ways like brutal ways"}, {"start": "00:23:34", "end": "00:23:40", "text": "gunshots disappearing never to come back"}, {"start": "00:23:38", "end": "00:23:42", "text": "like"}, {"start": "00:23:40", "end": "00:23:44", "text": "um"}, {"start": "00:23:42", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "breakins. I think one of them was"}, {"start": "00:23:44", "end": "00:23:49", "text": "somebody got broken into and killed."}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:53", "text": "It's just so weird. And also, but then"}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:56", "text": "on the flip side, if this was an in"}, {"start": "00:23:53", "end": "00:24:00", "text": "inside job and these people were taken"}, {"start": "00:23:56", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "out, then why has Donald Trump literally"}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:05", "text": "just said this?"}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:07", "text": "Well, you know, it was a pretty good"}, {"start": "00:24:05", "end": "00:24:10", "text": "breakdown by Casper Site and he made"}, {"start": "00:24:07", "end": "00:24:12", "text": "some connections that I think we'll all"}, {"start": "00:24:10", "end": "00:24:15", "text": "have to think about. We want to get your"}, {"start": "00:24:12", "end": "00:24:17", "text": "opinions. What happened to these people?"}, {"start": "00:24:15", "end": "00:24:19", "text": "Are they trying to cover up the evidence"}, {"start": "00:24:17", "end": "00:24:20", "text": "of the phenomenon? Did they know"}, {"start": "00:24:19", "end": "00:24:22", "text": "something that they didn't want to get"}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:24", "text": "out?"}, {"start": "00:24:22", "end": "00:24:27", "text": "Is it connected straight to the top? Or"}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:31", "text": "is it something within a black ops, a"}, {"start": "00:24:27", "end": "00:24:33", "text": "deep transnational deep state trying to"}, {"start": "00:24:31", "end": "00:24:36", "text": "shut the information down, hide it from"}, {"start": "00:24:33", "end": "00:24:38", "text": "us? We're not hiding anything here at"}, {"start": "00:24:36", "end": "00:24:41", "text": "Third Phase Moon. We just showed you the"}, {"start": "00:24:38", "end": "00:24:43", "text": "smoking gun footage. If you've got ideas"}, {"start": "00:24:41", "end": "00:24:45", "text": "what you think it is, you heard AI. It's"}, {"start": "00:24:43", "end": "00:24:49", "text": "not a helicopter. It's not some"}, {"start": "00:24:45", "end": "00:24:52", "text": "lighthouse or a airport tower. We're"}, {"start": "00:24:49", "end": "00:24:54", "text": "looking at something. In our opinion,"}, {"start": "00:24:52", "end": "00:24:57", "text": "it's reverse engineered alien tech. The"}, {"start": "00:24:54", "end": "00:25:00", "text": "thing didn't make a noise and it's as"}, {"start": "00:24:57", "end": "00:25:02", "text": "big as a house. Guys, give us a big"}, {"start": "00:25:00", "end": "00:25:04", "text": "thumbs up. And if you've captured"}, {"start": "00:25:02", "end": "00:25:05", "text": "anything amazing out there, submit it to"}, {"start": "00:25:04", "end": "00:25:08", "text": "us right here at Third Phase Moon. My"}, {"start": "00:25:05", "end": "00:25:10", "text": "email is in the description. Everybody,"}, {"start": "00:25:08", "end": "00:25:12", "text": "keep your eyes on the skies along with"}, {"start": "00:25:10", "end": "00:25:15", "text": "my brother Brandt. This is Blake"}, {"start": "00:25:12", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "Cousins. We're not alone."}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:20", "text": "We'll see you next time."}]

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My name is Andrew Bamonte, and"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "I'm a former CIA intelligence officer,"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "New York Times best-selling author, and"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "viral internet voice. I spent seven"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "years operating around the world with"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "CIA's National Clandestine Service. And"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "now I teach spy skills that break"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "barriers to help you unlock your peak"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "performance. 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And while it might seem shiny and"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "interesting, it's utterly worthless in"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "terms of intelligence. But if you can"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "bring yourself to ignore the noise,"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "there are two very important and very"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "distinct signals that are being sent to"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "you through the telltales. The first"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "signal is tied to an important lesson"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "that every new recruit is taught early"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "in their training at CIA. A lesson"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "called Rice. Rice is an acronym that"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "refers to the four core motivations"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "present in every human being. CIA"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "officers learn these four core"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "motivations so they can understand how"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "to predict future actions of people. The"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "R stands for reward. The I stands for"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "ideology. The C stands for coercion. And"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "the E stands for ego. R I C E. That is"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "the acronym rice. 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So this acronym RICE, rewards,"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "ideology, coercion, and ego make up the"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "foundation for how all CIA officers can"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "predict the future behaviors of people."}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "Now, while there are four motivations,"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "the four motivations are not considered"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "to be equal. In fact, it's recognized"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "that ideology is the strongest of all"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "the motivations because people do"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:13", "text": "incredible things when driven by"}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "ideology. If you haven't discovered your"}, {"start": "00:04:13", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "natural-born spy skills, then somebody"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "else might be using theirs against you."}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:23", "text": "CIA teaches us that there are only three"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "types of people in the world. Those who"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "motivate, those who manipulate, and"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "those who are being controlled by one of"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "the other two. I created a threeinut CIA"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "style quiz to help you unlock your"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "secret psychological advantage and"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "identify your hidden blind spot. This"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "test was developed to help you weaponize"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "your naturalb born gifts and use them to"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "get ahead of 99% of people in power,"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "wealth, and purpose. It was also"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "designed to make sure that you can"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "protect yourself against those who would"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "use their skills against you. All you"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "have to do is click on the first link in"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "the description below or scan the QR"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "code on your screen to start your spy"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "quiz now. I want you to discover your"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "secret spy superpower and use it for"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "good before somebody else uses their"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "power against you. But even though"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:08", "text": "ideology may be the most powerful, there"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "is another motivation that is equally"}, {"start": "00:05:08", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "important in the conversation we're"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "having today, and that is coercion."}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "Coercion is considered a highly"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "effective and useful motivational lever"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "in certain circumstances, specifically"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "circumstances where there's high"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "leverage, a lack of cooperation, and"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "limited time. Exactly the type of"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "situation that President Donald Trump"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "finds himself in right now in the leadup"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "to the 2026 midterms. It's because of"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "the lack of cooperation that he feels"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:36", "text": "across government. And it's because of"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "the limited time that he has before"}, {"start": "00:05:36", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "November. And it's because of the"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "incredibly high leverage he has in the"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "US military that you saw the rendition"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "of Nicholas Maduro in January, the"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "assassination of Ayatollah Ali Kamini in"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "Iran in February, and you see current"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "threats about the indictment of Raul"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:55", "text": "Castro in Cuba. Each of these actions"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "are very effective intelligence"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "telltales of coercion. Unpopular actions"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:03", "text": "executed quickly with a lack of"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "cooperation across government. So what"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "do the telltales say is coming next?"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "That is the second important signal I"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "want to share with you. I'm calling it"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:14", "text": "the big blue slap. A massive shift in"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "district level voting that's going to"}, {"start": "00:06:14", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "turn the House of Representatives blue"}, {"start": "00:06:16", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "in the November midterm elections. 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With gas prices"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "breaking records, inflation of the US"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "dollar running rampant, and the US"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "unable to exercise clear dominance"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "against China in Europe, or even against"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "a war torn Iran, Americans are seeing a"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "very clear and predictable outcome of"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "coercion, distrust, and that distrust"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "always leads to retribution. And that's"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "how I know the big blue slap is coming."}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "But I'm not the only one predicting a"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "big blue slap on November 3rd, 2026."}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "Official polling is predicting a 73%"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "chance that the Democrats take control"}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "of the House of Congress in the midterm"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "elections, even though they are also"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "predicting a 53% chance that Republicans"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "maintain control of the Senate."}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "Paralleling those estimates, the Poly"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "Market, which is an international"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "gambling institution, actually has a 79%"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "chance favoring the Democrats taking"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "control of the House during the midterm"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "and a 55% chance that the Republicans"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "will maintain control of the Senate."}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "Based on these numbers, it's very likely"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "that President Donald Trump expects that"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "he's going to lose control of the"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "government in November of 2026, which"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "means he has to execute as much of his"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "policy will between now and then. The"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "perfect setting for coercion. High"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "leverage with a strict time limitation"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "and a lack of cooperation. The fastest"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "way to get what you want in a limited"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "period of time is not to try to debate"}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "ideology or negotiate shared rewards."}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "It's to execute your will with ferocity."}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "And that's exactly what Donald Trump is"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "doing right now. From winning civil"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "suits against the Department of Justice"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "to invading sovereign countries and"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "knocking out world leaders. But there's"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "always a predictable outcome when you're"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "using coercion. And that predictable"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "outcome is what we will see with the big"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "blue slap that happens in November of"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "2026. If you learned something new from"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "me today, don't keep it to yourself. Hit"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "the subscribe button right now. 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My name is Andrew"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "Bamante and I'm a former CIA"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "intelligence officer. New York Times"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "best-selling author and viral internet"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "voice. I spent seven years operating"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "with CIA's National Clandestine Service,"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "and now I teach spy skills that break"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "barriers to unlock your peak"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "performance. I've had viral interviews"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "with Diary of the CEO, Shawn Ryan,"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "Flagrant, Lex Friedman, and many other"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "top tier podcasts and mainstream media"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "outlets. If you've seen any of my"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "interviews in the past, go ahead and"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "leave a comment below and tell me what"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "you remember the most. The spy skills I"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "teach have helped tens of thousands of"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "people around the world increase their"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "income, decrease their waistline, and"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "shortcut their way to wealth, happiness,"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "and even love. And today, I want to"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "share with you another one of those spy"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "secrets. Unlike traditional recruiting,"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "CIA doesn't have to go look for tier 1"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "athletes. Because of the relationship"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "that CIA has with the Department of War,"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "it can actually pull tier 1 operators"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "out of tier 1 units at its own"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "discretion. The reason this works is"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "because both the Department of War and"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "CIA fall under the executive branch of"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "government, essentially making the"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "president the supreme decision maker for"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "both organizations. So when there is an"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "executive level need for a tier one"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "operator to be part of an intelligence"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "collection operation, that is"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "essentially the president telling CIA to"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "go out and get any executive level"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "resource it needs. So CIA can reach into"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "Delta and CIA can reach into the Navy"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "Seal organizations and pull whatever"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "operators they want. Now there is a"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "surprising second side to this and that"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "is that when CIA does pull a tier one"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "operator from the military, that tier"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "one operator can often times choose to"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "stay with CIA and never return back to"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "their operating unit if they so choose."}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "What oftenimes happens though is that"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "operators will go back and forth between"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "CIA and their military unit for many"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "years building relationships on both"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "sides ultimately with the intention of"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "leaving the military and going into CIA"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "upon their retirement from the military"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "essentially creating a second career for"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "that tier 1 operator. The reason this"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "relationship is so valuable to those"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "tier one operators is because after a"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "career in tier one operations, their"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "body is oftentimes broken down in ways"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "that come from serial conflict. They"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:46", "text": "have injuries, they have wounds, they"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "might have personal issues with mental"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:50", "text": "health or PTSD or even on the home"}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "front. And having that opportunity to"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "transition from the military into CIA"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "operations is a huge benefit not only to"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:01", "text": "the operator but also to CIA. So, how"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "does CIA choose which tier one operators"}, {"start": "00:03:01", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "to pull from the units and which tier"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "one operators to leave behind? That"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "actually falls to a CIA process called"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "consistency versus motivation. CIA"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "believes that anybody can be motivated"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "to do anything temporarily. So,"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "motivation is not something that makes a"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "person unique. Instead, what makes a"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:24", "text": "person unique is something called"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "consistency. The ability to show up"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "consistently day after day of their own"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "accord. Not because they're forced to,"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "not because they have to, not because"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "it's their job. So, while tier one"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "operators are a very impressive group on"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "their own, the truth is that not all"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "tier one operators are created alike."}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "There are many tier one operators who"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "are fantastic at their job and motivated"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "to do what they do. But there are other"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "tier one operators who do what they do"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "because they have to do it. Maybe they"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "were motivated at the beginning. They"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "completed training, but once they had a"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "few years on the job, they lost"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "interest. It wasn't as exciting as they"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "thought it would be. It wasn't as"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "rewarding as they believed. This is a"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "major problem in tier 1 units that many"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "people don't talk about. There are many"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "Delta operators and Navy Seals who don't"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "like working with each other. They do"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "because they are professionals, but they"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "don't actually get along because they"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "are wired completely differently from"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "one another. If you haven't discovered"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:19", "text": "your natural-born spy skills, then"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "somebody else may be using theirs"}, {"start": "00:04:19", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "against you. CIA teaches us there are"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "only three types of people. those who"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "manipulate, those who motivate, and"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "those who are being controlled by one of"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "the other two. I built a threeinut CIA"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "style quiz designed to help you unlock"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "your secret psychological advantage and"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "identify your biggest blind spot. This"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "quiz will help you weaponize your"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "natural gift and use it to get ahead of"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "99% of people in power, money, and"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "purpose. Click on the first link in the"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "description below or scan the QR code on"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "your screen right now to take the test."}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "I want you to discover your hidden spy"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "skill and use it before someone else"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "uses theirs against you. Some are driven"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "by consistency while others are driven"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "by motivation. And CIA wants to avoid"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "anyone driven by motivation because"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "motivations can change. 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They might"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "be assigned to air operations or sea"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "operations or land operations. They"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "might even be assigned to various types"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "of influence operations. But within that"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "highly sensitive group of special"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "activities division, you have a large"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "range of different tier 1 operators. But"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "what's the most fascinating is that"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "working alongside those tier one"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "operators are actually everyday CIA"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "officers who never went through tier 1"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "training at all. But the thing that"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "those everyday operators have in common"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "with the tier one operators is that they"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "are driven by consistency and not by"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "motivation. So even from within CIA's"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "ranks, they will find officers who are"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "not specimens of athletic prowess, who"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "are not as capable with weapons, who"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "don't have years of combat field"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "experience, and they will pair them with"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "tier one operators to do any number of"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "jobs because they know that the"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "psychology of the tier 1 operator and"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "the CIA officer are alike and that both"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "individuals are driven by consistency"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "and not by motivation. After 70 years of"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:41", "text": "field operations, CIA has learned that"}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "individuals driven by consistency will"}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "always outperform individuals driven by"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "motivation. So when CIA is looking for"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "elite top tier performers, they are not"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "only looking for people who have"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "physical prowess or even mental ability."}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "They are looking for people who have the"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "right combination of personal drive and"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "consistent performance. consistent"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "performance can be trained and"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "systematically improved where motivated"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "performance can change in an instant."}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "This simple lesson has incredible"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "application in your everyday life"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "because often times people find"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "themselves seeking out external or"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "internal motivation. We read books about"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "motivation. We listen to speakers who"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "try to motivate us. Bosses are"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "constantly trying to find new incentives"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "to motivate their employees when in"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "reality motivation is not what we should"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "be pursuing at all. We should be looking"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "for consistency. And many times those"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "consistent performers get overlooked"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "because their consistency slowly"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "increases where individuals who are"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "motivated first often have large spikes"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "and changes in their productivity, their"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "performance, their engagement. But just"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "like you might see a motivated person"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "spike at one time, you might see them"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "fall off a cliff at a different time."}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "Meanwhile, that consistent performer"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "just continues to climb. You probably"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "know somebody at work that fits both of"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "these definitions right now. That"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "consistent performer who steadily does"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "their job, does it well, doesn't get"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "recognized, but will continue to grow"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "probably for the next 15 years versus"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "that highly motivated person who"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "everybody talks about today, but may"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "very well be forgotten tomorrow or will"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "give up after the first run-in with"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "hardship. That's not just your gut"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "instinct that tells you what's going to"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "happen. That is actually proven"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "scientific protocol that CIA has put in"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "place for years, pulling from the most"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "elite tier one operators in the world"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "and placing them into CIA's own covert"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "tier 1 operating unit known as Special"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "Activities Division. I had a brief"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "period in my CIA career where I had the"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "opportunity to work alongside SAD"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "officers and I was working on them"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "during the global war on terror and they"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "were some of the most impressive people"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "I had ever met. Not just because of what"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "they were able to do with a gun or with"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "their body, but because they had this"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "limitless unending desire, this drive"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "simply to continue performing, simply to"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "continue operating. And whether it was a"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "war on terror or a war on drugs or a war"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "on human trafficking, it didn't matter."}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "As long as they could continue to"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "consistently serve and serve at their"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "highest level, they were driven to keep"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "serving. It's actually hard for me to"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "communicate to you how inspiring and"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "impressive these people are because in"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "their specific space of military"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "operations, they are like the elite"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "athletes that you see around the world."}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "People who play the sport because they"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "simply love the sport. People who reach"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "the top echelons of the game because"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "they care to master the game. 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You also saw CIA tier 1 units"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "pave the way for regime change in Iran."}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "Not only because they were experienced"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "intelligence collectors, but because"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "they understood how elite military"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "operations work and they could partner"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "not only with the Department of War"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "elite units, but also elite units in"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "Israel so that they could share"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "information, share planning, and share"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "military decision-making without any"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "interruption. 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You never think about"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "their health. You never think about"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "their body. You never think about their"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "mood. You never think about their age"}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "because you know and you believe that no"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "matter where they are called, no matter"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "what day, no matter what place, no"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "matter what time, they will operate with"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "incredible consistency. That's what"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "makes them so powerful. That is the true"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "definition of what makes them the best"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "of the best. If you learned something"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "here today, don't keep it to yourself."}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "Go ahead and click that subscribe button"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "right now. Leave a comment or share the"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "video with a friend. And if you want to"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "learn more spy skills to optimize your"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "peak performance, go ahead and click on"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "the top link in the description below"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "and find out your secret spy superpower."}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "You and I know exactly what it's like to"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "be insatiably attracted to the best of"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:01", "text": "the best, the best athletes, the best"}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "operators. That's exactly why Enhanced"}, {"start": "00:12:01", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "Group Incorporated, recently announced"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "on the New York Stock Exchange as ENHA,"}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "is creating a next generation sports and"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "performance company that focuses on"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "elite competition, science, and medical"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "oversight, and consumer health and"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "performance products. 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My name is"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "Andrew Bamonte and I'm a former CIA"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "intelligence officer. I spent seven"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "years operating around the world with"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "CIA's National Clandestine Service and"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "now I teach spy skills that break"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "barriers and boost performance. One of"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "the first lessons I learned at CIA was"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "something called perception versus"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "perspective. In 2022, I taught exactly"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "that lesson to Lex Freriedman, an MIT"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "professor with a massive global podcast."}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "If you saw that interview, go ahead and"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "drop a comment below and let me know"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "what you remember most from that"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "conversation. If you missed that"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "interview, then let me take a few"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "minutes now just to teach you a little"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "bit about what CIA taught me when it"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "comes to perception versus perspective."}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "First, you have to understand that all"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "people in the world see the world"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "through their own perception. Their own"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "five senses. What you see, what you"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "hear, what you feel, what you taste,"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "what you smell. That those five sensory"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "organs comprise your perception of"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "reality. So, you can perceive the"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "temperature in the room and you perceive"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "the flavor of food and you perceive the"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "color of the clothing in front of you."}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "But we already know that not all people"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:33", "text": "perceive things the same way. Colorblind"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "people can't see colors the same way."}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "People with different taste buds have"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "different reactions to what they taste."}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "Whether you like to be warm or like to"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "be cold actually impacts whether or not"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "you feel like the room is too hot or too"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "cold. I find myself in the car often"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "times wrestling with the thermostat"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "because my wife thinks it's too cold and"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "I think it's too hot. 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Because"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "if two people are perceiving something"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "in similar ways, it means that there's"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "measurable data behind their perception,"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "which increases the chance that they're"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "actually having a moment of perspective."}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "CIA teaches us this because it wants us"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "to understand that anytime you're in any"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "kind of dialogue or communication or"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "interaction with another person, you"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "need to understand that they are"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "operating from a place of perception."}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "They are viewing you the way they view"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "the world around them, as if they are"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:09", "text": "the center of the story. 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And"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "from that position of superior"}, {"start": "00:03:24", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "information, you have a better"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "opportunity to get what you want out of"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "the conversation, to win the debate or"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "the argument, to get more information"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "out of them than you give to them, which"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "further maintains your position of"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "information superiority. 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And that's why CIA wants"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "every officer to understand the idea of"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "perception versus perspective. So, how"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "does this apply to Erica Kirk? At the"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:28", "text": "end of the day, Erica Kirk is just"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "another person just like you, just like"}, {"start": "00:04:28", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "me, which means that she's living in a"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "world that's controlled by her"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "perceptions. 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They went viral"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "on the internet, which means they will"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "forever be searchable, discoverable,"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "findable, unforgettable,"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "not just for Erica, not just for her"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "children, but for her children's"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "children and their children after that."}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "That is a massive important piece in"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "understanding how she must perceive the"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "world around her. how she must perceive"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "the threats against her, how she must"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:28", "text": "perceive everything from people to"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:30", "text": "politics and faith to doubt. It's all"}, {"start": "00:05:28", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "through that lens of her personal"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "individual trauma. Trauma that you and I"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "witnessed ourselves in September of"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "2025. If you haven't discovered your"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "natural-born spy skills, then somebody"}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "else might be using theirs against you."}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "CIA teaches us that there are only three"}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "types of people in the world. those who"}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:50", "text": "motivate, those who manipulate, and"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "those who are being controlled by one of"}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "the other two. I created a threeinut CIA"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:58", "text": "style quiz to help you unlock your"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "secret psychological advantage and"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "identify your hidden blind spot. This"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:05", "text": "test was developed to help you weaponize"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "your naturalb born gifts and use them to"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "get ahead of 99% of people in power,"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "wealth, and purpose. It was also"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "designed to make sure that you can"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "protect yourself against those who would"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:16", "text": "use their skills against you. 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So, when you watch"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "Erica Kirk, you have to realize that"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "what you're seeing in her behavior and"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "her words and her responses and her"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "actions aren't the real Erica Kirk. They"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "are a matter of her perception that is"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:46", "text": "heavily influenced by stress. the stress"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "of the perceived world that she lives in"}, {"start": "00:06:46", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "every day. Not only is she grieving for"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "a husband she lost less than a year ago,"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "but she was also flung into the position"}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "of CEO for Turning Point. That's an $85"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "million a year organization. She is also"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "a single parent to two young children."}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "and she's the face of faith-based"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "conservative women at a time when"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "gender, faith, and politics are some of"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "the most divisive topics that are going"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "on in our world. That's why I'm saying"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "that when you see Erica Kirk, when"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "anyone sees Erica Kirk, what they see is"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:24", "text": "not a real version of Erica Kirk. They"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "see something that is perceived. They"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "see how Erica perceives herself in the"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "world that she lives in. And they also"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "see how they themselves perceive Erica"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "Kirk and her actions and her behaviors."}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "One of the things I loved about working"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "at CIA is how the lessons they taught us"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "to use in the field really did apply to"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "our own ability to improve our personal"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "performance. 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So, while the internet goes on"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "rambling and debating and arguing about"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "whether Erica Kirk was real or fake at"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:16", "text": "the correspondence dinner, you can think"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "to yourself right now about the stress"}, {"start": "00:08:16", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "that she must have perceived in that"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "moment, in those first few moments after"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "she realized there was a live shooter at"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "the White House correspondents dinner."}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:31", "text": "You can think through how that trigger,"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "you can think through what she must have"}, {"start": "00:08:31", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "felt, how she must have reacted because"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "you can put yourself in her shoes. And"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "when you stop to consider what Erica"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:40", "text": "Kirk may have been thinking about in"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "those first few minutes after she heard"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "gunfire in the White House"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "correspondents dinner, I'll bet that you"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "land on something similar to what I"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "believe she was thinking about. Because"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "I believe she was thinking about her"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "children and about not leaving her two"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "children orphaned in a world where both"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "of their parents were killed within the"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "same year by two different active"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "shooters. My goal here isn't to get you"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "to like or hate Erica Kirk. It has"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "nothing to do with Erica Kirk. It has"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "everything to do with a simple lesson"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "that CIA taught me that I see playing"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "out in the world around me every day."}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:20", "text": "this lesson of perception versus"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "perspective because CIA trains us to"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "ignore our perceptions and focus on"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:28", "text": "perspective because perspective drives"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "outcome and perspective will keep you"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "closer to the truth than anything else."}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "If you learned something from this"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "conversation today, don't keep it to"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "yourself. 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He's very investigative in"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "how he asks questions, the way he"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "interacts with people. It's not kind of"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "a typical, I would say, uh script"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:30", "text": "unscripted show where producers are kind"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "of working really close with the talent"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "and feeding them lines. He's really"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "discovering the process as we go along."}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "And that is weaving the narrative to"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:41", "text": "where our stories are ending. So it's we"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "have an idea of what we're going in to"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "shoot, but because of Andy's inquisitive"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "nature and his intelligence, we come out"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "with new answers that lead us down"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "different paths. So the story is unknown"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "as to where it's going to end."}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:59", "text": ">> Epstein, I'd say the curiosity as well"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "that he has and that he's so good at"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "speaking. I mean, he's clearly quite"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "practiced and so when he's on camera,"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "he's so natural and he's easy to make"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "people put at ease and uh get all the"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "good content."}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:12", "text": ">> Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "minute. What do you mean they don't show"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "that wall?"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:17", "text": ">> Other shows that I've worked on, the"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "talent are just they're experts in one"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "particular area. Whether they're really"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "good at food or they know how to repair"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "a car or they're experts in matchmaking"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "and glove, that really is the one"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "avenue. this show, the storytelling and"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "the content that we're that we're"}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "exploring is really varied. It's not"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:39", "text": "just one particular subject. It's many"}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:42", "text": "subjects. And he absorbs the information"}, {"start": "00:02:39", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "and becomes almost an expert extremely"}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "quick with it. Um, which is probably"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "part of his CIA training. It's probably"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "a reason why he was a spy to begin with."}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:52", "text": "Um, is because he's he's very bright. uh"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "and he's able to absorb that information"}, {"start": "00:02:52", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "and continue our storytelling down a"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "natural path and and not just make it"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "feel so linear and just one-dimensional."}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "Today we're playing with lasers. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "who gets to do this stuff? I used to ask"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "myself all the time when I was at CIA,"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "who gets to do this? When you go on a"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "surveillance detection training mission,"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "when you shoot guns, when you drive"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:22", "text": "cars, when you learn how to triage"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "people in medical emergencies, when"}, {"start": "00:03:22", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "you're hiking through the mountains,"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "when you're evading at night, when"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "you're learning how to scuba dive"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "underwater in the dark, like, this is"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "some incredible stuff. And this show"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:34", "text": "just continues to take me on these"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:36", "text": "incredible journeys to do things that"}, {"start": "00:03:34", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "nobody else gets to do. And I'm happy to"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "take you with me."}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "This is a biology nightmare lab. Not"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "what it's really called in the real"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "world. What's called in the real world"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "is an applied microbiology lab. This is"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "where you can test the control"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "mechanisms that keep a hospital room"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "safe. 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But when you're out here in the"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "field, you get one chance to capture a"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "moment. And if you get that moment, it"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:51", "text": "gold and you walk away from that day"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "feeling like you've done something"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "magical. If you miss that moment, you"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "feel terrible and there's no back going"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "back and being able to redo those"}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "moments."}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "on a really fun project, you work with"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "the kind of people that don't give up"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "easily. 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To me,"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "that's what makes a great project."}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "One of my favorite things about this"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "project is I actually got to tell the"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "production company to come to me. So,"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "the project came to me in my home in"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "Colorado Springs. 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I mean, when"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "you're holding a book this old, over 150"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "years old. These pages have been alive"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "for so long. And it really is"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "incredible."}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "as a producer,"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "uh 75% of my job is uh is just getting"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "to the game in the first place. So,"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "planning and then problem solving."}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "I'm going to go above 100% because I'm"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "going to say 125% because yet another"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "50% is problem solving, but 25% of that"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "50% is replanning the stuff that I"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "already planned. So, it's it's a"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "neverending cycle of figuring things out"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "and then having them not be realistic in"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "any world that you actually want to live"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "in, which is sad."}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "So, I want to show you one of my"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "favorite things about being the host of"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "a TV show. So, every day I have uh"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "production assistants who are the people"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "who are kind of the like executive"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "assistants for the whole show, but they"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "put together a cooler for me. And it"}, {"start": "00:07:26", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "even has my name on it."}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "Um but that's not obviously the coolest"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "part. The coolest part is what's inside"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "the cooler cuz the cooler is full of all"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:41", "text": "of my favorites. So, today they pack"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "they don't pack me the same thing two"}, {"start": "00:07:41", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "days in a They pack me different"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "favorites every day. 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So, this is my"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:34", "text": "bunker for the show, and I just want to"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "show you the secret that nobody else"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "will admit to. Because inside every CIA"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "bunker is this alcohol. Lots and lots of"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "alcohol."}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "These are laboratory freezers that are"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "actively holding almost every viral"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "agent you can imagine inside."}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "Tuberculosis, whooping cough. I mean, if"}, {"start": "00:09:02", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "it can kill you, they're saving it for"}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "research."}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:10", "text": ">> Within a week, I can have live virus,"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "live bacteria, live fungi, whatever you"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "want. This is the closest I ever want to"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "be to tuberculosis."}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:24", "text": ">> Were you able to see a cloud come out"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "that little hole in the upper right?"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:28", "text": ">> Absolutely. I saw all the gas come in."}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "It's just once it disperses, you really"}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "wouldn't know that there's a cloud in"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "there."}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "That's that's the invisible nature of"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "aerobiology."}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:45", "text": ">> I made it. I made it through my first"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "Bolab evacuation."}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:52", "text": ">> I was moving so fast during our lab"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "evacuation that I lost my mic."}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "It's easy to feel a moment, I think,"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "especially for camera operators, uh,"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "which is myself and Ben, when we're"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "behind the lens, we we honestly get an"}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "emotion that we feel. We can feel"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:07", "text": "excitement. We can feel sadness. Um, we"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "we feel everything that the audience is"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "feeling. You know, I've been on on shows"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "that are comedy driven shows, and I'm"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "actually laughing at the same time that"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "the action's happening, which, you know,"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "essentially we're hoping that the"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "audience is laughing at home as well."}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "So, uh, you as an operator, especially"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "behind the camera, we know the moments."}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "We feel them. Um, and we know that we've"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "captured them when the emotion actually"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "goes through our body that the same for"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:36", "text": "the audience will feel at home."}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:40", "text": ">> Shame what it's called. And"}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:42", "text": ">> thank you for all the praise."}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "Well, most of the hard work was because"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "of you motivating me. So, we're getting"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "ready to leave for Eli's place, so I"}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "don't have time to texty texty. But I"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "just got this really funny call from uh"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "Jen"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:59", "text": ">> catching up on everything happening in"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "real life while I record reality TV."}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:03", "text": ">> This is me."}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:05", "text": ">> The days all blur together. I can't"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "believe this was just a few hours ago."}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "It feels like it was a week ago."}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "There's a lot of pressure in the"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "fieldwork, but it's the most exciting"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "and it it really does keep everybody"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "working"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "and in the moment throughout the day to"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "make sure that everybody's in line and"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "ready to go cuz when Andy goes and"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "moments are happening, it is our job"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "everywhere behind the scenes to make"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "sure we're capturing those moments um so"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "we can share them at home with with"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "everybody who's on their couches"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "watching these wonderful broadcasts."}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "When you're talking about conspiracies"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "and cover-ups, it's so easy to get"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "focused on what people don't know. So,"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "I'm trying to focus on what we do know"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "so that we can use those facts as a"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:46", "text": "foundation to have a larger"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "conversation. Because the truth is, the"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "government does lie. There really are"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "cover-ups and some conspiracies come"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "true. But if you ignore everything,"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "you're going to miss the most"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:59", "text": "interesting parts."}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:02", "text": ">> Didn't kill himself."}, {"start": "00:11:59", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "And so when you finish, the idea is you"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:06", "text": "turn it over and you do it that way."}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:09", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:09", "text": ">> That's a wrap."}]

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I mean,"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "unspeakable things happened, and"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "hostages were taken, etc."}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "And they've gone on the course that"}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:34", "text": "they've gone on. But as Charles"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "Eisenstein points to, what would have"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "happened if they just said,"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:42", "text": "this horrible thing happened,"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "and this is the state of the world. We"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "have to do something about it, and we"}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "forgive, you know, those that have"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "transgressed us in these horrible ways,"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "but we trust in God and God and love to"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "actually heal. Like what would have"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "changed and rippled through the world?"}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:02", "text": "But that's not in the game theory"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "strategy of our powers. You know, the"}, {"start": "00:05:02", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "game theory of, you know, trusting love,"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "God, beauty, goodness. If you haven't"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "discovered your natural-born spy skills,"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "then somebody else might be using theirs"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "against you. CIA teaches us that there"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "are only three types of people in the"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "world. Those who motivate, those who"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "manipulate, and those who are being"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "controlled by one of the other two. I"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "created a 3-minute CIA style quiz"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "[laughter]"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "to help you unlock your to being a war"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "against Hezbollah, to being a war"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "against the Houthis, to being a war"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "against Iran, to invading Syria. You"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "could see how they just continued to"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:23", "text": "escalate because there was always an"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "economic justification"}, {"start": "00:08:23", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "for reducing your future enemies. 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You know, I mean, it's it's it's"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "difficult, you know, it's and I'm not I"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "don't have the plan for how to deploy"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:24", "text": "this,"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "but the vision of shifting our"}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "consciousness to solve the problem at a"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "different level seems to be the only way"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "out of this mess. 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Not just by the very wealthy and"}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "the people who are leaving the United"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "States and diversifying their bets,"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "right? I'm on that journey to find that"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "energy myself. 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Is"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "his mentalism real magic? Probably not."}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "Is it because his network has grown so"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "big and is full of so many significant"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "names? I'm sure that helps. Is he going"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "to wow people at the White House,"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "possibly even impress the president"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "himself? That part is virtually"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "guaranteed. The real magic behind Oza's"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:17", "text": "success isn't his tricks or techniques,"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "though those are very real and very"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "impressive. The real reason why the"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:23", "text": "whole world has fallen in love with O"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "and can't stop watching his public"}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "appearances is because of something that"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "CI operators and psychologists call"}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "perceived control. Perceived control is"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "the degree to which we as individuals"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "believe that we have control over the"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "people, the actions, the feelings that"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "occur around us. And perceived control"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "has two primary factors. 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It's the reason"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "that you feel safe in your house, why"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "you feel confident in your language, why"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "you feel comfortable in your own"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "clothes. You believe that you are"}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "controlling your choices, where you"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "live, what you wear, what you say. 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The way that you"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "speak, how often you speak, what you"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "say, what you choose to eat or drink,"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "when you go to sleep, what you watch on"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "TV. It's not until your perceived"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "control starts to be challenged,"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "reduced, or even taken away that you"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "start to recognize that it's there at"}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "all. Perceived control is the thing that"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "makes your hair stand on end when you"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "get scared. It's the thing that makes"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "you feel butterflies in your stomach"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "when you get nervous. It makes you"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "stumble over words when you're trying to"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "say something important or trying to"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "talk to somebody that you admire. 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You do not feel"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "like you have control over the outcomes."}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:45", "text": "You don't understand all of the"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "activities and the process and the"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:50", "text": "behaviors that are going on. And you"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "feel that inside. You feel it in your"}, {"start": "00:03:50", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "shoulders. You feel it in headaches. You"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "feel it in shaky hands. You feel it in a"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "lack of sleep. It's what makes you"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:03:59", "text": "defensive. It's what makes you argue."}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "Your body wants to escape the very"}, {"start": "00:03:59", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "scenario, the situation that is"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "challenging your perceived control. It"}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:08", "text": "wants to get you away from the situation"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "that is causing you to have an"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "uncertain, unpredictable future. And it"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:15", "text": "wants to get you back into a place where"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "you have the perception, the perceived"}, {"start": "00:04:15", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "control over the outcomes that most"}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:22", "text": "matter to you. When you watch O carry"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "out his mentalism, you also see how the"}, {"start": "00:04:22", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "men and women in the room with him react"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "to his actions. And that shows you in a"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "very real way how he can twist and turn"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "and topple their perceived control. A"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:37", "text": "great example of this is when O made an"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "appearance on the flagrant podcast with"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "my friend Andrew Schultz. You actually"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "got to see how one of the co-hosts,"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:47", "text": "Alex, verbally said that he was feeling"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "scared and nervous when O started to ask"}, {"start": "00:04:47", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "him questions."}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:51", "text": ">> Word starts with an M, doesn't it?"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:52", "text": ">> Holy"}, {"start": "00:04:51", "end": "00:04:53", "text": ">> Crazy."}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:54", "text": ">> It's Harlem. We're in Manhattan. Is the"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "word Manhattan?"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:59", "text": ">> That is Manhattan."}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "And just a few minutes later, Alex"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "actually got up out of his seat,"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "shocked, and stepped away from O because"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "his body realized that the closer he was"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "to O, the less he felt a sense of"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "perceived control. So, he physically got"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "up and walked away from O. 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This is a grown"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:48", "text": "man and you can see the shock in his"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:50", "text": "face and the tears in his eyes as he"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "sits there and reveals his answer to"}, {"start": "00:06:50", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "Oz's question. This is why perceived"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "control is so powerful not only to Oz's"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:59", "text": "brand of mentalism but also to"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:02", "text": "intelligence activities in the national"}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "security infrastructure because you can"}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "literally shape the environment by"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:09", "text": "shaping people's perception of their own"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "control their control over their"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "timeline past present and future but"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "also their control over their behaviors"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "their actions their outcomes. 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O uses his perceived control"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "for entertainment. We use it to gather"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "intelligence. O wins when his target"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "realizes they have lost control. We win"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "when our targets never realize that we"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "have taken control. Regardless of the"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:42", "text": "differences, I am absolutely certain"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "that O has a very structured,"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "professional, and proprietary approach"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "to his mentalism. That's the only way"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "you can explain his consistency and his"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "confidence, especially in his profoundly"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "public performances. O is very real,"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "really skilled, and really good. But"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "that's not why the world watches him."}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "The average person could care less about"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "Oz's process. They don't obsess about"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "his performance. 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And at"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "the top of human needs is this idea of"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "needing to understand yourself,"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "self-actualization. But human needs are"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "completely different than human desires,"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "human wants. Right? 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You didn't need to"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "have everything be wired uh so that you"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "know you could drive it from your phone."}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "You didn't need that. What you needed"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "was a mode of reliable, safe"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "transportation from point A to point B"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "that would keep you safe and your"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "passenger safe. That's all you really"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "needed. But everything else that you"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "purchased in the car on top of that,"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "that wasn't based on need. That was"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "based on desire. That was based on want."}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "We as human beings, we use the word need"}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "when we're actually talking about the"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "things that we desire. I need to get"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "married. I need to have kids. I need to"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "make money. I need to travel. I need to"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "be happy. No, you don't need any of"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "those things. But you want those things."}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "Similarly, we start using the word want"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "sometimes to define the things that we"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "actually need. I want to relax. 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So your desires can get you"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "criticized and your needs are something"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "that people feel like we have to reduce"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "because if we're too needy then there's"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "a problem with us. So there's this yeah"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "there's this dichconomy that that is a"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "struggle for all of us."}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:35", "text": ">> You you know this is something I've"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "never quite noticed before. 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That's that's pretty"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "stark, huh?"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "And when you realize how confused each"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "individual is because we're not using"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "the same words, think about how ripe"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "that makes us for manipulation."}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "Because now if an ad or a social media"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "person or an AI generated influence"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:19", "text": "campaign from an enemy, if that if they"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "come through saying the same thing that"}, {"start": "00:03:19", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "we're telling ourselves,"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "right? It's it's called the message in"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "your head, the dialogue in your head. if"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:28", "text": "they come in saying the same thing"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "you're saying in your head, you"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "immediately trust the message because we"}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "talked about it earlier, you trust"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:38", "text": "things that are familiar. So when you"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:40", "text": "think to yourself, I need a new car, and"}, {"start": "00:03:38", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "somebody comes in and says, you deserve"}, {"start": "00:03:40", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "a new car. Now all of a sudden, you're"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "like, oh, you understand me. I can trust"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "you. [ __ ] no, you can't you can't trust"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "them. They're here to sell you way more"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "car than you actually want, need, or can"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "afford. But they understand the the"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "story that's in your head. And this is"}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "the same thing that we did to our"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:03", "text": "parents when we were seven and 11 years"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "old, right? When we were like, \"Hey,"}, {"start": "00:04:03", "end": "00:04:09", "text": "mom. Hey, Dad. You know, I need a new"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:11", "text": "jacket for school.\""}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "And you didn't need a new jacket. 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And it's"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "because of that that need that constant"}, {"start": "00:06:48", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "habit of of deceit that we live in a"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "world where people don't know the truth"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:57", "text": "for themselves and they certainly don't"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "know the truth in each other. And that's"}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "why the vast majority of people are"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "inherently distrustful of one another."}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:07", "text": "Even though we wear smiles, even though"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:11", "text": "we say I trust you, I love you,"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:13", "text": "whatever, we don't actually believe"}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "that, but we're not willing to admit to"}, {"start": "00:07:13", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "ourselves that we don't believe that."}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "So, we are even lying to ourselves."}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:24", "text": ">> Yeah. Um,"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "you know, in in in evolution, they study"}, {"start": "00:07:24", "end": "00:07:28", "text": "deceit quite a bit because they're"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:31", "text": "always trying to answer why in the hell"}, {"start": "00:07:28", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "would a cooperative specy where, you"}, {"start": "00:07:31", "end": "00:07:34", "text": "know, the dominant theory in in"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "evolution is that we evolved for"}, {"start": "00:07:34", "end": "00:07:36", "text": "language and we evolved for all this"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:38", "text": "intelligence because we had to cooperate"}, {"start": "00:07:36", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "and sort of fight natural forces. And"}, {"start": "00:07:38", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "so, if you're going to be cooperative,"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "why would the need to lie evolve? And"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "it's it's a huge question mark because"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "fundamentally humans are programmed with"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "deceit and we are deceitful in many ways"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "including in ways with ourselves. And"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:57", "text": "you are kind of right in that it's not"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "that I'm lying to myself but I haven't"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "really spent enough time thinking about"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "it or don't really have the words or the"}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "resources or the access to truly"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "formulate what I want out of life. It's"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:07", "text": "spot on. Nobody really knows what they"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "want out of life. They'll use buzzwords"}, {"start": "00:08:07", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "that they heard on some media"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "programming at some point. Freedom's one"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "of them. Travel's one of them. Most"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "people who want to travel when they do"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "travel are still as miserable as they"}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "were back home. And you know um but"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:25", "text": "do you think this sort of dishonesty is"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "inherent to humanness or humanity or is"}, {"start": "00:08:25", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "it a consequence of the system that"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "we're a part of and this sort of social"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "play that we engage in and even the fact"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:37", "text": "that I've been following rules for 30"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "goddamn years. Give me a break. I'll"}, {"start": "00:08:37", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "just lie and get out of it. Right? This"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:44", "text": "the dishonesty is a relief from society."}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "Sometimes you you eject out of society"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "when you lie. You you have this private"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "world in your head where they cannot"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "find you. Why do you think are people"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "dishonest?"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:54", "text": ">> It goes right back to what we were"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "talking about earlier with our survival"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:09:02", "text": "instincts, right? 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We've evolved very quickly from"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "being cavemen in a stone cave to being"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "human beings on smartphones living in"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "towers made out of steel and glass."}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "But biologically,"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "we're still very similar to the cavemen"}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "living in the cave. What that means is"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "that we haven't changed physiologically."}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "The comp the composition of our brain"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "and our bodies haven't changed. We're"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "still the same kind of soft uh"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "vulnerable mass that we always were."}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:10:00", "text": "It's not like we've grown thicker skin"}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "and warmer hair. If anything, we've"}, {"start": "00:10:00", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "gotten softer and weaker because of our"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "social and technological evolution. So"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "when we were when we were cavemen,"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "when we were, you know, pre-magn,"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:20", "text": "we realized that there were not enough"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "resources to go around. 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And"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "when you went out to pick the trees and"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "I went out to pick the trees, we were"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "competing against each other to see who"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:43", "text": "could get the most fruit because we both"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "understood that the fruit is limited."}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "We still think the same way now. Even"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "though the limitation is gone, we still"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "think that there's only so many apples"}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "to to be collected. So, I have to"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "collect them. I have to wake up earlier"}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:10:58", "text": "than you and stay up later than you. I"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "have to find a way to steal apples from"}, {"start": "00:10:58", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "you when you're sick or when you're"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:07", "text": "sleeping. I have to do whatever I can to"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "collect as much as I can because what I"}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "don't want is to ever be needing food. I"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "would rather have my apples rotting in"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "my cave than have you have enough apples"}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "to feed yourself because if you have"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "enough apples, that might mean I don't"}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:24", "text": "have enough apples."}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:27", "text": ">> And that's how we are biologically"}, {"start": "00:11:24", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "wired. So, fast forward till today and"}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "it's the same it's the same way. Rich"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:34", "text": "people aren't rich because they're"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:36", "text": "greedy. They're rich because they want"}, {"start": "00:11:34", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "more and they know how to get more and"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "they never know when it's going to run"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "out. Celebrities aren't aren't famous"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "because they are they need the"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "attention. They recognize that they"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "don't know when the attention is going"}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "to change and they all recognize that"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "they're getting older and one day"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:56", "text": "they'll be too old for the camera to"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "want to look at them anymore. So, they"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "have to collect as much as they can"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "right now. Almost like squirrels saving"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "for the winter. That's how we're all"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "wired. And lying is inherent to being"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "able to to collect more and make sure"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "nobody knows that you've collected more"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "than you need."}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:20", "text": ">> So lying is inherent to human beings"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "because lying is inherent to survival."}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "You don't want people to know how much"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "food you have. You don't want them to"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "know how strong you are. You don't want"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:28", "text": "them to know where the best fruit trees"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:31", "text": "are. You don't want them to know where"}, {"start": "00:12:28", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "the best fishing hole is. You want them"}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "to be stuck with less. so that you can"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "have more which guarantees your survival"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "and the survival of those who come after"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "you."}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:42", "text": ">> Yeah, there's a there's a there's a"}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:44", "text": "biological line. I completely agree that"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "for survival it makes sense. You know,"}, {"start": "00:12:44", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "we are not just cooperative, we're also"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "competing. We're doing both. And for"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "competition sake, I have to lie. And so"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "on big matters, I kind of get it. You"}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:53", "text": "know, when I think about it"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "theoretically for myself, I kind of get"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "why I would need to lie where the apples"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "are cuz I don't want Andrew near my"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "apples. Those are my apples. But then"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "why would I lie to Andrew or my wife or"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "Himmanchu over here about small things?"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:09", "text": "You know, we do this innocuous lie stuff"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "all the time. And yeah, you can say,"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "well, your muscle is built, so you keep"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "flexing it. You know how to lie, so you"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "keep lying. But it begs the question,"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "and I'm sure this is very helpful. You"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:20", "text": "know, when you're dealing with people on"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "the field,"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "what are people actually trying to"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "preserve when they're lying? because it"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:27", "text": "looks like they're trying to preserve"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "some kind of optical sense of self like"}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "this perception of me. Sometimes they're"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "trying to preserve what they think of as"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "their self-concept and I don't want that"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:37", "text": "destroyed what we famously call ego. But"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "what are people actually trying to"}, {"start": "00:13:37", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "preserve when they do innocuous lying?"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:43", "text": ">> So remember how we were talking about"}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "this the hierarchy of needs and then we"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:47", "text": "also talked about that there is a"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "separate measure called the hierarchy of"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "desires."}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "So as we meet the lower levels of our"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:57", "text": "desires, we start to have higher levels"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "of desire. I think your question"}, {"start": "00:13:57", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "specifically earlier was what drives"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:01", "text": "people."}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:03", "text": ">> Right."}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:06", "text": ">> Right. What drives people? The thing"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "that drives people is what they desire."}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "What drives them is not what they need."}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "There's lots of people who need better"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "jobs and more money and that's not"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:16", "text": "enough to get them to get a better job"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "or a better education. They'll they'll"}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "beg on the street rather than actually"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "take the initiative to go change their"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "life. What drives people is the"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "hierarchy of desires. And that's also"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "what drives people to lie. Your first"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "desire is for safety."}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "So you're looking for safety. You're"}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "looking for a roof over your head."}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "You're looking for a tribe of people"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "that you can rely on. Well, once you"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "have that safety, then your desire"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "changes to something else. It changes to"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:49", "text": "status. It changes to uh popularity, it"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "changes to power. And at the top of that"}, {"start": "00:14:49", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "ladder is your chief aspiration, right?"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "Your you you want to aspire for more."}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "That's at the top of the food chain for"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "what you want. And what is more? More is"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:06", "text": "exactly that. It is more."}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:08", "text": ">> More power, more wealth, more success,"}, {"start": "00:15:06", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "more travel, more freedom. And when you"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "get it, you want more still. And you"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "can't even define it because more is"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "just more. And everybody wants more."}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "There is nobody out there who doesn't"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "want more of the thing that they like."}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "More time to play video games, more"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "chances to try new wine, more"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:28", "text": "opportunity to, you know, to be with"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "their kids or love their wife or have"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "sex with strangers. Everybody wants"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "more."}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:36", "text": ">> So that's when the that's why we have"}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:38", "text": "those innocuous lies, Par."}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:41", "text": ">> Interesting. When we have our base"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "desires met, we still want something"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:45", "text": "else. So then we lie to protect the"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:48", "text": "thing that we want. So we tell these"}, {"start": "00:15:45", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "innocuous white lies because we want to"}, {"start": "00:15:48", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "protect our ego or we want to protect"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "our intentions or we want to protect our"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "our vulnerabilities and we don't want to"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "share those with somebody else because"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "they're ours. And what we don't want is"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "somebody else to know more than we know"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "about ourselves. If you like that video,"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "you're going to love the next one and"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:08", "text": "I'll see you there. respect yourself."}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "How can you do anything else? How can"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "you love someone else if you don't have"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "self-respect? How can you build a"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "business you're proud of if you don't"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "have self-respect? How can you raise"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "kids? How can you make a difference? How"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "can you pioneer"}]

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And that's what"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "you see playing out at scale around the"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "world. Not just in terms of commercial"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "business, but also in terms of influence"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "campaigns and the information war"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "landscape."}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:43", "text": ">> If you open the newspaper today, you'll"}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "see that there's news about every"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "conflict in the world, right? Uh between"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "Pakistan and India, there's conflict."}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "Between India and China, there's"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "conflict. Between the United States and"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "Russia, there's conflict. between Russia"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "and Ukraine, there's conflict. In every"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "one of those stories, what you what you"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:05", "text": "see, you naturally take to be reliable"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "information. That's what you think it is"}, {"start": "00:01:05", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "first. When in fact, what you're looking"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "at is an information warfare landscape."}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "It's information that's been released"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "selectively. It's information that's"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:22", "text": "been crafted by a journalist. It's"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "information that's been reviewed by an"}, {"start": "00:01:22", "end": "00:01:26", "text": "editor and it's information that's"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "that's been approved for publication by"}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "a publisher."}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:33", "text": ">> So there's at least three to four people"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "who are standing between the real"}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:38", "text": "information and what you read on"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "everything out there. That's one of the"}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "reasons that people find their way to"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:45", "text": "more um non-traditional media like"}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "podcasts because there's really only one"}, {"start": "00:01:45", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "person between your thoughts and your"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "audience and that person is you. There"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "is no editor, there's no publisher,"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "there's no person who sweeps in and"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "says, \"Oh, Par you can't say that. Oh,"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "Par, let's say this a different way.\""}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:00", "text": "That's not what's happening. So there's"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "this there's this growing movement of"}, {"start": "00:02:00", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "trust because people feel like these"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "non-traditional outlets of of media are"}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:12", "text": "somehow more reliable simply because"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "there's less layers filtering the"}, {"start": "00:02:12", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "information."}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:16", "text": ">> Yeah. You know what I was thinking and"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "this is something that's come from just"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "operating in media for a while and"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "seeing how the [ __ ] show works really."}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:23", "text": "Um I tell my friends all the time. In"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "fact, I tell my family first because you"}, {"start": "00:02:23", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "know um older people are much more"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "susceptible to reading something and"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "finding it to be true or watching"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:32", "text": "something and finding it to be true. I"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:34", "text": "always tell them ask yourself why are"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "you privy to this information? 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So know you're being gamed like"}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "be very aware of the fact that you're"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "probably being gamed in a certain way."}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "And this tracks for literally everything"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "like from advertising which is a more"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "more honest blas form of induction of"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:04", "text": "behavior to reals and news things on"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "Twitter or or your newspaper or your"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "WhatsApp forwards and whatever that"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "might be. 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That's just it's the way it"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "works. This is the magic of an"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "algorithm, right? An algorithm is really"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "a computer code that you can create that"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:51", "text": "will work the same way for millions of"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "people even though the individual"}, {"start": "00:03:51", "end": "00:03:56", "text": "algorithms that they see are different."}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:58", "text": "Right? 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Now, I want you"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "to discover your secret spy superpower"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "and use it for good before somebody else"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "uses their power against you."}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:05", "text": ">> So now, if you or I look at a pair of"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "leather shoes, anywhere we travel on the"}, {"start": "00:06:05", "end": "00:06:08", "text": "internet is going to keep showing us"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:10", "text": "leather shoes, leather shoes from the"}, {"start": "00:06:08", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "same place that we were looking at them,"}, {"start": "00:06:10", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "leather shoes from other competitors,"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "because now we have a way of actually"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "tapping into the algorithm to target the"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "person who's already susceptible to the"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "message."}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "You know what I think about algorithms,"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:26", "text": "particularly in this case, algorithms"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "are like mirrors. You know, they'll tell"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "you more about yourself than anything."}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:31", "text": "And um there's a running joke between me"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "and my friends about what your for you"}, {"start": "00:06:31", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "page on Instagram shows will tell you"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "what you're thinking. But you know, I"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "also feel like this mirror sometimes"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "comes too fast. And I have a story I"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "tell people. 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I spoke to her and she said"}, {"start": "00:07:09", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "something very similar. She was like, I"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:14", "text": "was getting reals about how men are all"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:16", "text": "wrong. And I was like, that's kind of"}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "insane. This could have actually"}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "accentuated our fight. Like I'm not"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:22", "text": "saying that the algorithm seeks to do"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "that or the media companies seek to do"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:26", "text": "that. I'm not placing the onus of"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "mistake on anyone indiv. 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We're"}, {"start": "00:09:20", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "all fish in this lake that that whatever"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "happens to us doesn't benefit us"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:30", "text": "anymore."}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:33", "text": "um you know it sort of lends itself to"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "Marx's idea of opium of the people or"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:37", "text": "for the people whatever he said there is"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "a certain way in which you can imagine"}, {"start": "00:09:37", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "I'm not saying I'm not particularly"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "subscribing to Marxist thought here but"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "I can imagine that there is enough"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:47", "text": "dissatisfaction in the world where the"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "world might want to put its foot down"}, {"start": "00:09:47", "end": "00:09:51", "text": "you know you see this in the US all the"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "time the conversation around politics is"}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "so rife and there is almost this um this"}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "aggression to it it's happening in the"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:01", "text": "UK as we speak right now, the UK is um"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:03", "text": "is going through something like this."}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "And"}, {"start": "00:10:03", "end": "00:10:10", "text": "I think to a certain degree, public"}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "outcry is hedged with media or hedged"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "with entertainment or hedged with as"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "Mark said, you know, religion back in"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "the day. There is a certain way in which"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "I feel like I don't know if there's"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:22", "text": "propaganda. I don't know if there is a"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "narrative effect that an institution"}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:27", "text": "like the CI or the government of any"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "country would do but the reality of how"}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "unhappy people are generally speaking"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "and their actions there's a huge delta"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:33", "text": "all the time and I wonder if you know"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "something about this if there is any"}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:38", "text": "speculation about it is there an active"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "effort to keep people sedated or do you"}, {"start": "00:10:38", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "think this is just a byproduct of the"}, {"start": "00:10:40", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "way the world is now?"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:44", "text": ">> Oh no no no there there's an active"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:46", "text": "effort but the effort is something that"}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:48", "text": "people don't understand."}, {"start": "00:10:46", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "We try to think that we're being"}, {"start": "00:10:48", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "targeted for control now, right? I'm 45"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "years old. I don't know how old you are,"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "but we think that it's happening. It's"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "happening right now. I you you look"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "wildly young and good-looking, so I"}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "don't even want to try."}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:05", "text": ">> Um,"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:07", "text": ">> yeah, I I don't want to interrupt that."}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "That's okay. I'll let the compliment be."}, {"start": "00:11:07", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "Go on."}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:14", "text": ">> But we think that we're being targeted"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "for control right now. It's It's so"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:19", "text": "silly. It it really goes to show how"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "ignorant the masses, all of us, really"}, {"start": "00:11:19", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "are. If we think that we're important"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "now, we're missing the boat. We were"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "shaped when we were children"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "so that by the time we're this age,"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "whether we're 25, 35, 45, 65, by the"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "time we're that age, we've built, we've"}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "been conditioned already"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "for how to accept information we don't"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "like. 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If you break"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "those behaviors for too long, you're"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "kicked out of school. and you want to do"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "well in school so that you get what?"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:19", "text": "Scholarships and rewards that allow you"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:22", "text": "to go to the next school. And then when"}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "you get to the next [ __ ] school, you"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:24", "text": "have to keep having certain behaviors."}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:27", "text": "You have to keep meeting certain"}, {"start": "00:12:24", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "criterias. All defined by people outside"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "of you so that you can get good grades,"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "good marks, so that you can get uh"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "additional scholarships, so that you can"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "become the top of the class because you"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "want to be the top of the class so that"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "you what? get rewarded with the best job"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:46", "text": "and then what happens once you get on"}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "the job? The same [ __ ] cycle. It"}, {"start": "00:12:46", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "happens our whole life. And the reason"}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:55", "text": "that that structure has been created is"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "because society, the government above"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "us, recognizes that you need to"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "condition a society in order to have a"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "predictable social base when those"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "people are of wealth enough, age enough,"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "power enough to demand change. And"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "that's why you you see people try to"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "create movements and fail all the time."}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "You see that people try to protest and"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "it's very few people who protest for"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:29", "text": "long enough to actually create the"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "change that they want because the"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "society that we live in has already"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "shown us that when you are protesting,"}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "you are breaking the social norm. And"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:41", "text": "over time, people don't want to be part"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "of the breaking of social norms for too"}, {"start": "00:13:41", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "long because they subconsciously believe"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "that if they break the norm for too"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "long, they won't get the reward they"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "really want. So then they need to"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "reconform back into society. That still"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:54", "text": "means you have these fringe movements."}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "You still have people who are out there"}, {"start": "00:13:54", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "who are super zealous. But what do we"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "call really zealous people?"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:13:59", "text": ">> Zealous."}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:02", "text": ">> We call them"}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:04", "text": ">> Yeah. We call them crazy. We call them"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:07", "text": "We call them lost. We call them"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "unrealistic, unrational, right? It's"}, {"start": "00:14:07", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "really the person who follows the rules"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "that's that remains in good standing in"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "society."}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:17", "text": ">> H"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "um as an individual, as an operative, as"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:24", "text": "an ex- operative, u is there any"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "understanding on if I had to"}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "create a certain programming whether"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:29", "text": "that's to individuals or societies, what"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "is the best emotional access point for"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "it? Is it like fear? Is it trust? Is it"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "safety? Like how do I get into a"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "person's psyche to create a programming?"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:43", "text": ">> So there's there's three emotions that"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:45", "text": "are stronger than any other emotion. And"}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "those three emotions are fear, anger,"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "and sadness. Those are the three most"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "powerful emotions. They're more powerful"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:55", "text": "than love. Love is only powerful in the"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "movies, right? They're more powerful"}, {"start": "00:14:55", "end": "00:14:59", "text": "than happiness. They're more powerful"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "than anything else. So if you really"}, {"start": "00:14:59", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "want to program somebody, you want to"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "target one of these three emotions. But"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "all people are wired differently in the"}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "way that they interact with those three"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "emotions. So while we all feel while we"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "all feel fear, anger, and sadness"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "multiple times a day, some of us are"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "more on the angry side, some of us are"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "more on the sad side. So you want to"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:26", "text": "craft depending on whether you're"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:29", "text": "looking for an individual or a large"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "group, you want to craft your messaging"}, {"start": "00:15:29", "end": "00:15:33", "text": "so that you are building around the core"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:34", "text": "emotion that's most relevant to the"}, {"start": "00:15:33", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "person."}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:38", "text": ">> Can you give me an example?"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:40", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So um let's talk about"}, {"start": "00:15:38", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "injustice, right? Whatever your"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:46", "text": "injustice might be, uh women aren't paid"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "the same amount as men. Uh women don't"}, {"start": "00:15:46", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "seem to have rights over their body"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:51", "text": "because it can be legislated and changed"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:53", "text": "any time of the day or week, whatever"}, {"start": "00:15:51", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "else. women have children and then they"}, {"start": "00:15:53", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "have to go home and care for their"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "children and as a result of that their"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "career takes a hit, right? That's an"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "injustice. There are some women who feel"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "that injustice and it makes them angry."}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:10", "text": "There are other women who feel that"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "injustice and it makes them sad. There's"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:14", "text": "a third group that feel that injustice"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "and it makes them fearful. So whether"}, {"start": "00:16:14", "end": "00:16:16", "text": "you're trying to talk to a let's say"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "you're trying to talk to a group of"}, {"start": "00:16:16", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "women because you want them to all vote"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "on some new policy that guarantees"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "maternity leave after they have their"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "children, right? You could literally get"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "all three groups to vote on the same"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "outcome if you change the messaging to"}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "each one. If you have an anger-based"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "message for the first one, take action"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "now. This has been wrong for too long."}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "Now is our chance to fix it for our"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:45", "text": "future daughters. With a second group,"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "you can take a sadbased approach, right?"}, {"start": "00:16:45", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "Where it's like this has been something"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:50", "text": "that your parents, your mother carried"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:52", "text": "with her and your grandmother carried"}, {"start": "00:16:50", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "with her before that and now the burden"}, {"start": "00:16:52", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "is on you, but we can save our daughters"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "from carrying this burden in the future."}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:02", "text": "And then you can also have a fear-based"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "thing, right? where you say something"}, {"start": "00:17:02", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "like if if we don't act soon, it's just"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "a matter of time before society takes"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "more rights away from us and men will"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "never understand us and we have to stand"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "up for our own selves. Vote for this"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "this cause and move forward today,"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "right? The same outcome with three"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "different messages because there are"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "three different types of women who are"}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:29", "text": "reacting to the the concerns about their"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "future. When you want to condition"}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "somebody, you want to condition them"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "around their core emotion. Because that"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "core emotion, fear, sadness, or anger,"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "whichever one is the strongest for that"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "person, you can hit that emotion over"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:45", "text": "and over again, any time of day, any day"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "of the week, any age that that person"}, {"start": "00:17:45", "end": "00:17:51", "text": "is, and you'll always have a reliable"}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:53", "text": "foundation, a mind that's rich with"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "things that make them take action."}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:56", "text": ">> Bro, that's kind of crazy. It almost"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:59", "text": "sounds like you're pressing a piano key"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "and pressing it over and over for the"}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "same sound to be created. And I mean, I"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "understand the media programming side of"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "it. I can kind of do away with it. It's"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:07", "text": "so complex. But on an individual level,"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "too, I'm assuming like when you're"}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "trying to deal with people or you were"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "on the field, you could probably figure"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:15", "text": "out, okay, this person reacts to anger"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "well and just like press press press"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "until they start producing reproducible"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:20", "text": "behavior of sorts, right?"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:23", "text": ">> That's exactly how it works. I mean, it"}, {"start": "00:18:20", "end": "00:18:26", "text": "it sounds it sounds"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:27", "text": "maybe crazy. surprising. Yeah. But we've"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "all done it. We've all done it in our"}, {"start": "00:18:27", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "everyday life without realizing that's"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "what we were doing. 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There are"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "changes happening that the government is"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "initiating on its own to combat what it"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "determines, what it sees as future"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "threats. And that's a that's a big part"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "of what I was involved in when I was at"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "CIA. It's a big part of the book that I"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "just real that I just released"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:44", "text": ">> talking about how America is making"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "those changes, how it's making changes"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "to keep the American people safe, safer,"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "how it's making changes to combat"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "adversaries that are also changing."}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "And I I say that because the changes"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "that the national security"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "infrastructure are making are not the"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "same changes that we need to have as a"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "human embrace in order to pick a new"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "path because while we are shifting we're"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:12", "text": "shifting 5 7 12 degrees but we're still"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "going predominantly"}, {"start": "00:01:12", "end": "00:01:14", "text": ">> still playing the same game"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:19", "text": ">> predominantly one direction."}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:21", "text": ">> Yeah. So, I want to get to a couple"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "questions that just I have is just out"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "of my own ignorance. So, for one, we've"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "had two recent assassination attempts"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:32", "text": "from rooftops."}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:35", "text": "I don't personally understand the"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:37", "text": "security failure of check the [ __ ]"}, {"start": "00:01:35", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "rooftops,"}, {"start": "00:01:37", "end": "00:01:41", "text": ">> right? Like, what what is going on"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "there? Why? I mean, like it seems like"}, {"start": "00:01:41", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "it, look, if I was going to be in uh in"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "that type of position of Charlie Kirk or"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:50", "text": "the type of position of Donald Trump,"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:52", "text": "and that's not my intention to be in"}, {"start": "00:01:50", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "that position, but who knows where how"}, {"start": "00:01:52", "end": "00:01:57", "text": "far the targets, you know, will go. If I"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "get to ever get to the point where I"}, {"start": "00:01:57", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "have a security detail, I'm going to be"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:04", "text": "like, \"Yo, y'all are watching the"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:06", "text": "rooftops like all the time.\" You know"}, {"start": "00:02:04", "end": "00:02:08", "text": "what I mean? Like, so that's one thing."}, {"start": "00:02:06", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "Like, walk me through that. I don't"}, {"start": "00:02:08", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "understand. I don't understand why you"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:13", "text": "don't check that."}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:14", "text": ">> So there's you do check it. It's"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:16", "text": "actually one of the priority things in"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:18", "text": "any kind of security detail. Whenever"}, {"start": "00:02:16", "end": "00:02:21", "text": "you whenever you pre or advance a"}, {"start": "00:02:18", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "location, you're looking for vectors of"}, {"start": "00:02:21", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "attack, vectors of threat. And roofs are"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "a very well-known, very established"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "I mean altitude really elevation"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:32", "text": ">> for sure"}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:34", "text": ">> is a very well-known vector of attack"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "because when you have elevation, you"}, {"start": "00:02:34", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "have uh clear line of sight. You also"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:44", "text": "maintain distance versus say uh an"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:47", "text": "attacker. There was a a famous attack in"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "the 1950s. I just lost the name."}, {"start": "00:02:47", "end": "00:02:51", "text": ">> I lost the name of somebody who tried to"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:54", "text": "kill a president in a restaurant up"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:56", "text": "close. So there's two different types of"}, {"start": "00:02:54", "end": "00:02:58", "text": "of threats, right? You got"}, {"start": "00:02:56", "end": "00:03:00", "text": ">> Reagan Reagan was shot up close, right?"}, {"start": "00:02:58", "end": "00:03:04", "text": ">> Was shot up close. Yeah. But so you if"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "you are a premeditated attacker and you"}, {"start": "00:03:04", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "are choosing a premeditated location"}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:10", "text": "that is outdoors,"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:12", "text": "altitude is your friend, elevation is"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:14", "text": "your friend. So then when you come to"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "advance a location, you have to think"}, {"start": "00:03:14", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "like the wolf. You have to think like"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:21", "text": "the attacker. Where would be the best"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "vector? And what's what the what the"}, {"start": "00:03:21", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "attacker doesn't know is exactly how the"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "the"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "foreground is going to be set up. So,"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "like with Charlie Kirk, there were"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:35", "text": "tents, there were flags, with uh Donald"}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "Trump, there were bleachers. So, when"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "you set up a location in advance, you're"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:44", "text": "essentially um showing"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:45", "text": ">> the threat how the stage is going to be"}, {"start": "00:03:44", "end": "00:03:47", "text": "set up. So, that allows them more"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "opportunity to choose where they're"}, {"start": "00:03:47", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "going to shoot from. Now, with both"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "Thomas Krooks and Tyler Robinson, the"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "person who tried to shoot Trump in"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "Pennsylvania and the person who shot"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "Charlie Kirk in Utah, in both of those"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "situations, they chose rooftops that"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:05", "text": "were approximately the same distance,"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:06", "text": "175 yards, 150 yards. Part of the reason"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "they chose that distance is because"}, {"start": "00:04:06", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "that's not a impossible shot with a"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "commercial hunting rifle or a commercial"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "shot rifle, right? The average person"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "with decent vision, Thomas Krooks, was"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:20", "text": "in glasses for crying out loud. So the"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "average person with a little bit of"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:24", "text": "familiarity can make a shot from that"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "distance, which is why there's a 200yard"}, {"start": "00:04:24", "end": "00:04:31", "text": "mandate for the most part, minimum safe"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:33", "text": "zone for any rooftop in the area."}, {"start": "00:04:31", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "With President Trump, you saw failures"}, {"start": "00:04:33", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "in his Secret Service response time,"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:40", "text": "etc., etc., that led to the fire, the"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:41", "text": "shot being pulled off at all. But you"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "also saw that Thomas Krooks was"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:45", "text": "immediately killed on the same rooftop"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "where he fired his shot."}, {"start": "00:04:45", "end": "00:04:48", "text": ">> Charlie Kirk didn't have that kind of"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "security detail. Whether that was"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "because they didn't think they needed it"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "or"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:53", "text": ">> it's just super expensive, too. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:54", "text": ">> it's very expensive thing to have,"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:56", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:57", "text": ">> But you still saw something similar."}, {"start": "00:04:56", "end": "00:05:00", "text": ">> One of the big differences though"}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "between Thomas Krooks and Tyler Robinson"}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "is"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:05", "text": ">> where Tyler Crooks or where uh where"}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:07", "text": "Thomas Crook set himself up in Butler,"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "Pennsylvania, he did not have a route of"}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:12", "text": "escape. If you haven't discovered your"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:15", "text": "natural-born spy skills, then somebody"}, {"start": "00:05:12", "end": "00:05:17", "text": "else might be using theirs against you."}, {"start": "00:05:15", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "CIA teaches us that there are only three"}, {"start": "00:05:17", "end": "00:05:21", "text": "types of people in the world. Those who"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:23", "text": "motivate, those who manipulate, and"}, {"start": "00:05:21", "end": "00:05:26", "text": "those who are being controlled by one of"}, {"start": "00:05:23", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "the other two. I created a threeinut CIA"}, {"start": "00:05:26", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "style quiz to help you unlock your"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "secret psychological advantage and"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "identify your hidden blind spot. This"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "test was developed to help you weaponize"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "your naturalb born gifts and use them to"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "get ahead of 99% of people in power,"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "wealth, and purpose. It was also"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "designed to make sure that you can"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "protect yourself against those who would"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "use their skills against you. All you"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "have to do is click on the first link in"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:52", "text": "the description below or scan the QR"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:54", "text": "code on your screen to start your spy"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "quiz now. I want you to discover your"}, {"start": "00:05:54", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "secret spy superpower and use it for"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:01", "text": "good before somebody else uses their"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "power against you. The the conclusion"}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "that you have to lead from that is that"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "he went up on that roof to try to kill"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "President or the future President Trump"}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "with the intention that he would try to"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "kill Trump, but he knew full well he"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "would not escape there. He had no route"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "of escape. He had no no planned egress."}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:22", "text": "He was he was in trouble. He was going"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:24", "text": "to die that day."}, {"start": "00:06:22", "end": "00:06:26", "text": ">> Where Tyler Robinson had a very well"}, {"start": "00:06:24", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "planned egress route. He had a plan for"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:29", "text": "how he was going to dispose of the"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "weapon. He had a plan for where he was"}, {"start": "00:06:29", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "going to go next. It's very similar to"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:35", "text": "Luigi Manion. They had a plan for how"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "they were going to get off the X after"}, {"start": "00:06:35", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "they they committed their act of"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "violence. So when you think like the"}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:43", "text": "wolf, these are the things that you're"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "thinking about. Is the shot realistic"}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "for me? Is it within the right range?"}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "What's the right weapon? What's my"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:51", "text": "what's my way of approach in? What's my"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:54", "text": "way of egress out? What will be the"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:56", "text": "response time for federal or for"}, {"start": "00:06:54", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "protective services afterwards? So why"}, {"start": "00:06:56", "end": "00:07:00", "text": "rooftops? because you get the best"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "opportunity for everything. If you're if"}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:03", "text": "you're in front of the crowd with a"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "handgun, how are you going to get out?"}, {"start": "00:07:03", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "How are you going to eress?"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:07", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:08", "text": ">> You're going to be slowed down by the"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "crowd itself, right?"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:15", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It just seems like uh"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:18", "text": "not enough attention is paid to the most"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:19", "text": "obvious way if somebody cares about"}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "actually. I mean obviously in this kind"}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "of suicidal homicide, you know, it's"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "like somebody that's what's so dangerous"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:29", "text": "in some of the areas that you know you"}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "used to work is there's this idea where"}, {"start": "00:07:29", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "you can actually literally put bombs on"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "yourself and become a human bomb. Well,"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "when that changes the rules of every"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:40", "text": "engagement of everything, right? That's"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "that makes everything so much more"}, {"start": "00:07:40", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "dangerous if you're willing to drive"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "your own vehicle which is a bomb into"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "something knowing that your vehicle will"}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "explode. Well, [ __ ] That's a whole new"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "vector that you have to deal with. Even"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:54", "text": "the kamicazi pilots in World War II,"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "right? It's like they weren't trying to"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "just bomb and get out and go home to see"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "their family. They were committed to die"}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "in that and that changes it. Most likely"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:04", "text": "somebody's going to look for a way to"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "escape, which means most likely it's"}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:09", "text": "going to be on a rooftop, which means"}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:12", "text": "got to get eyeballs on those on those"}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "roofs. And you know, it it just seems"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "like that's to me like a definitely like"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:20", "text": "a security failure. And I'm not trying"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:22", "text": "to blame the actual individuals on"}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "security detail. I'm sure they're fine"}, {"start": "00:08:22", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "folks with a lot of training. But it"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:30", "text": "just is like, yo, like we got to we got"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:32", "text": "to look at that. what seems like the"}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "most likely way that somebody's going to"}, {"start": "00:08:32", "end": "00:08:35", "text": "be attacked. And and the other thing I"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "just want to mention real quick and have"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "you comment on both those gunmen, you"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "know, as a hunt as someone who hunts,"}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:48", "text": "you know, taking a 200 yard shot is not"}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:50", "text": "that difficult. Now, of course, it's way"}, {"start": "00:08:48", "end": "00:08:52", "text": "more difficult when you actually see the"}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "animal in front of you because you get"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:56", "text": "what they call buck fever. And I can"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:58", "text": "only imagine what that's like. I mean,"}, {"start": "00:08:56", "end": "00:09:00", "text": "these these are clearly sociopaths, so"}, {"start": "00:08:58", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "they may actually have shut off that"}, {"start": "00:09:00", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "feeling of nervousness or the but but"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:07", "text": "ultimately it's a more way more"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "difficult shot on an animal than it is a"}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "target when you're hunting, right? It's"}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:13", "text": "just kind of known, but it's not that"}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:14", "text": "difficult a shot. So, people saying"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "like, \"No way he could have pulled off"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "that shot.\" Well, first of all, he"}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:21", "text": "wasn't aiming for Charlie's neck. Like,"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "nobody aims for the neck. So, he he"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "missed and and the other shooter also"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "missed. caught the ear. So, they weren't"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:32", "text": "exactly like dialed in accurate. So, it"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "seems quite plausible that he was the"}, {"start": "00:09:32", "end": "00:09:36", "text": "actual shooter. He, you know, misjudged"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "the elevation, maybe the ballistics of"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:41", "text": "his of his bullet and how much drop it"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "would have at that distance or it's a"}, {"start": "00:09:41", "end": "00:09:46", "text": "variety of different things. But the"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:49", "text": "second miss of course was a fatal miss,"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:50", "text": "you know, and and so that seems to me"}, {"start": "00:09:49", "end": "00:09:53", "text": "plausible that he could have pulled off"}, {"start": "00:09:50", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "the shot. But it still leaves me"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "questions about like why why security"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "details aren't paying more attention to"}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:04", "text": "really focusing on these rooftops. I I"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "want to I want to be very clear that I"}, {"start": "00:10:04", "end": "00:10:08", "text": "am I am 100% defending the"}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:11", "text": "professionalism of the security details"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "because in hindsight it's easy to focus"}, {"start": "00:10:11", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "on the rooftop because that's where the"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:17", "text": "threat came from. But before the threat"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "presents itself, the threat could come"}, {"start": "00:10:17", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "from anywhere. The front row, the middle"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "of the left side, behind the bleachers,"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:25", "text": "under the bleachers, it could be someone"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:26", "text": "who drives a car across the be the"}, {"start": "00:10:25", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "barrier in the middle of the"}, {"start": "00:10:26", "end": "00:10:30", "text": "presentation. So you've got a limited"}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "number of people, 5, 7, 12, 25, you name"}, {"start": "00:10:30", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "it. You've got a limited number of"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:35", "text": "people and an infinite number of threat"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "vectors."}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:39", "text": ">> So they're trying their best to reduce"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:41", "text": "as best they can,"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:43", "text": ">> but you can't reduce everything. And"}, {"start": "00:10:41", "end": "00:10:45", "text": "when the threat presents itself, often"}, {"start": "00:10:43", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "times you have to respond to the threat."}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "It's funny that there's a there's my"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:50", "text": "coping mechanism again, right? It's"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:53", "text": "funny. Mhm."}, {"start": "00:10:50", "end": "00:10:56", "text": ">> It's not funny that the executive"}, {"start": "00:10:53", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "protection world has recently gone"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:02", "text": "through the process of uh of"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "empiricalizing, of measuring, of testing"}, {"start": "00:11:02", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "the effectiveness of close protection."}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "And what they have found in their"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:15", "text": "research is that 88%"}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:17", "text": "of close protection responses result in"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:20", "text": "the death of the principal."}, {"start": "00:11:17", "end": "00:11:23", "text": "So that means 88% of the time that a"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "threat presents itself and executive"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:28", "text": "protection has to step in to protect the"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "principal 88% of the time the principle"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:32", "text": "is lost. That means it's only 22% of the"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "time"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:36", "text": ">> 12%"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:38", "text": ">> 12% of the time in the last I think it"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:40", "text": "was a 20-year study 24 year study in the"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:42", "text": "last 24 years there's only 12% of"}, {"start": "00:11:40", "end": "00:11:44", "text": "instances where this the principal"}, {"start": "00:11:42", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "survived that doesn't mean the principal"}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:47", "text": "was uninjured but the principal survived"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:50", "text": ">> wow"}, {"start": "00:11:47", "end": "00:11:52", "text": ">> right those numbers are daunting and"}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:53", "text": "what the executive protection industry"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:55", "text": "is waking up to is the fact that if"}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:58", "text": "you're focused on close protection if"}, {"start": "00:11:55", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "you're focused on response you're going"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "to lose your principle. So you need to"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "be focused on advanced intelligence on"}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:08", "text": "preparation on on predicting threat"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:10", "text": "vectors, on forcing threat vectors so"}, {"start": "00:12:08", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "that you can limit the number of places"}, {"start": "00:12:10", "end": "00:12:13", "text": "where you have to worry about an attack."}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:15", "text": "Instead of having an outdoor rally,"}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "having an indoor rally, instead of hand"}, {"start": "00:12:15", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "having a live rally, having a virtual"}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:20", "text": "rally,"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:22", "text": ">> you know, instead of allowing 10,000"}, {"start": "00:12:20", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "people, you allow 2,000 people and"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "they're all prevetted,"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:27", "text": ">> right? There's there's all these"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:30", "text": "measures that are being taken, not just"}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "for politicians, but for CEOs and for"}, {"start": "00:12:30", "end": "00:12:34", "text": "CFOs and for investors around the world"}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:38", "text": "where they're realizing that close"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:40", "text": "protection services are only effective"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "a little over 10% of the time."}, {"start": "00:12:40", "end": "00:12:45", "text": ">> Mhm. You know, there was also, you know,"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:48", "text": "another recent tragic event on the on"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "the bus, you know, where uh Ukrainian"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "woman was stabbed to death. And you"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:56", "text": "know, this is these things are all"}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "happening in in kind of short succession"}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:13:00", "text": "here. And"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "you know, violence and there's shooters."}, {"start": "00:13:00", "end": "00:13:04", "text": "I mean, there's so many shootings and"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:07", "text": "shooting attempts that are happening"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:12", "text": "now, they almost even don't make a that"}, {"start": "00:13:07", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "much of a blip in the in the news cycle."}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:17", "text": "What is, you know, for the average"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:19", "text": "citizen, like what do you think we"}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:22", "text": "should be doing to prepare ourselves for"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:24", "text": "this world where it's seemingly, you"}, {"start": "00:13:22", "end": "00:13:26", "text": "know, there's more violence? like what"}, {"start": "00:13:24", "end": "00:13:30", "text": "what should have and I I think her name"}, {"start": "00:13:26", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "was Arena, but I'm I can't um exactly"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:35", "text": "recall the Ukrainian woman's name, but"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "like what are the steps that ordinary"}, {"start": "00:13:35", "end": "00:13:38", "text": "people should take, you know, just"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "citizens, even if they're not a"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:45", "text": "high-profile target, to be safer?"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:47", "text": ">> That's such a good question. There's"}, {"start": "00:13:45", "end": "00:13:49", "text": "there's"}, {"start": "00:13:47", "end": "00:13:52", "text": "the primary lesson that all elite"}, {"start": "00:13:49", "end": "00:13:55", "text": "operators are taught when it comes to"}, {"start": "00:13:52", "end": "00:13:58", "text": "personal security, self-defense,"}, {"start": "00:13:55", "end": "00:14:00", "text": "um, defensive tactics, if you will. The"}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "first thing that we're taught is that"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "you need distance from the threat."}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "Distance is your best friend. With"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:10", "text": "distance, you also gain time. So that's"}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "physical distance. Meaning, if if you"}, {"start": "00:14:10", "end": "00:14:14", "text": "want to protect yourself from a shooter,"}, {"start": "00:14:12", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "stand further away. If you want to"}, {"start": "00:14:14", "end": "00:14:17", "text": "protect yourself from somebody who"}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:19", "text": "presents a knife, stand further away."}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:21", "text": "It's a very simple concept, but distance"}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:23", "text": "creates time and you need that time to"}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "reach a good response because your"}, {"start": "00:14:23", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "instinctive response may not be the best"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:28", "text": "response for you."}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:31", "text": ">> There's exactly there's four sympathetic"}, {"start": "00:14:28", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "responses that your body goes through"}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:34", "text": "when it's in immediate threat. There's"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:36", "text": "fight or flight, which we're all very"}, {"start": "00:14:34", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "familiar with. And if somebody presents"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:40", "text": "a knife and you don't have a knife,"}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "fight is not the response that you"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:43", "text": "necessarily want to have."}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:46", "text": ">> Mhm. Flight means that you run away."}, {"start": "00:14:43", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "Oftentimes, flight is not the best"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "response either because when you run"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "away, you're actually exposing the most"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "vulnerable parts of your body to the"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:53", "text": "threat."}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:56", "text": ">> Your back,"}, {"start": "00:14:53", "end": "00:14:58", "text": ">> your back, your back, your spinal"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "column, your nerve endings, easier"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "access to all of your critical your"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "organs like your kidney, your livers or"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "your kidneys, your liver, the the lungs,"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:07", "text": "everything's so much more accessible"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "from the back than it is from the front."}, {"start": "00:15:07", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "So, when you turn to flee, you're"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "actually reducing your chances of"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "survival."}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:14", "text": ">> You better trust your Nikes."}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:16", "text": ">> And then you've got two other"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:18", "text": "sympathetic responses that people don't"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "talk about. There's freeze, where you"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "literally don't know what to do. The"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:23", "text": "information is too much. So, your body"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "just freezes. We've all"}, {"start": "00:15:23", "end": "00:15:26", "text": ">> too unfamiliar as well."}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:28", "text": ">> We've all seen deer do this in"}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "headlights, right? They freeze. But then"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "there's also something called fawn. And"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:35", "text": "fawn is when you immediately subjugate"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:37", "text": "yourself to the threat in an effort to"}, {"start": "00:15:35", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "try to appease them before they hurt"}, {"start": "00:15:37", "end": "00:15:40", "text": "you. We see this in abusive"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:42", "text": "relationships. You also see this in"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "those movies where people beg for their"}, {"start": "00:15:42", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "life. Oh, please, please. That's not"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:49", "text": "fighting, fleeing, or freezing. It's"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "fawning, right? And that's a very real"}, {"start": "00:15:49", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "sympathetic response. When you gain"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:56", "text": "distance, you gain time to process"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "through all four of those sympathetic"}, {"start": "00:15:56", "end": "00:16:01", "text": "responses before you make a conclusion"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:04", "text": "as to what is the best survivable uh"}, {"start": "00:16:01", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "approach for you to take. So, I say that"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "because the first thing people need to"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "do is they need to increase their"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "distance. Before you go into a mall,"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "drive around the mall. Stand get out of"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:18", "text": "your car and stand by the back of your"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "car just for a second to see what's"}, {"start": "00:16:18", "end": "00:16:21", "text": "happening in the area around you. Does"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "it look normal? Does it not look normal?"}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:24", "text": "This is something we call situational"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "awareness. You gain situational"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:28", "text": "awareness with distance. As you close"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "distance, you decrease your reaction"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "time. So, you want to make sure that"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "you're controlling when you choose to"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:36", "text": "decrease your distance. When you choose"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:38", "text": "to decrease your reaction time because"}, {"start": "00:16:36", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "you're increasing the risk to yourself"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:42", "text": "as your situational awareness confirms"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:44", "text": "that it's safe to move forward, then you"}, {"start": "00:16:42", "end": "00:16:47", "text": "move forward. What are the busiest times"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "to be at the mall? Do you want to be at"}, {"start": "00:16:47", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "the mall in those busiest times? Because"}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "when you are, it reduces your distance."}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "It reduces your time. The mall can be a"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:57", "text": "standin for the grocery store. It can be"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:16:59", "text": "your child's school. It can be your"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "church. How many people find themselves"}, {"start": "00:16:59", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "getting to church at the last minute,"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "rushing into church at the last minute,"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:08", "text": "working through the crowd, right? Your"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "your attacker is using distance, time,"}, {"start": "00:17:08", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "and situational awareness against you."}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "They've been there for a while. Or they"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:15", "text": "are still yet to come because they know"}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "that the peak attack is going to happen"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "when everybody's distracted, trying to"}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:22", "text": "rush into their seat. when the first the"}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:24", "text": "first uh note from the band strikes up."}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:26", "text": "So, you've got to you got to use the"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "same tools that the that the attacker is"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "using"}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:32", "text": ">> against you. So, defense and time by far"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:33", "text": "are the two best things that you can use"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:36", "text": "because they allow you to gain"}, {"start": "00:17:33", "end": "00:17:38", "text": "situational awareness. We can go very"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:40", "text": "deep into what other techniques people"}, {"start": "00:17:38", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "can use, but when it comes to conceptual"}, {"start": "00:17:40", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "simple understanding, those are the"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:44", "text": "first things that that we're taught and"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:47", "text": "the first things that I would want"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:50", "text": "everyone else to learn. I'd I'd heard"}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "and read somewhere that in uh you know"}, {"start": "00:17:50", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "there was a time where there was you"}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "know during prohibition where there was"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "just unbelievable gang violence of of"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:00", "text": "different gangs trying to control"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:02", "text": "different uh production and and"}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "distribution of alcohol and there was"}, {"start": "00:18:02", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "just murders happening all over in"}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "Chicago and different places and you"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:11", "text": "know one of the rules of thumb was to to"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "never be in a seat where your back was"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "to you know things that you couldn't see"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:18", "text": ">> you know So find yourself in a seat"}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "where actually you have visibility and"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "visibility is also distance because"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "there's no distance when you can't see"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:24", "text": "what's behind you."}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:26", "text": ">> Correct?"}, {"start": "00:18:24", "end": "00:18:29", "text": ">> Cuz somebody can actually broach that"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "distance to zero without you even"}, {"start": "00:18:29", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "knowing. And that's what happened in the"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "in the you know"}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:38", "text": ">> railroad car that in that in that"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "attack. So you know one idea is to is to"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:42", "text": "find the place where you have high"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:44", "text": "visibility and then probably also be"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:46", "text": "thinking about all right what is my you"}, {"start": "00:18:44", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "know what is my escape route what is my"}, {"start": "00:18:46", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "egress route well how do I how do I if"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "something goes down how do I how do I"}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "leave so if you're in a"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:56", "text": ">> and again this is tough because if"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:58", "text": "you're in a pack theater you may be"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "stuck in the middle [ __ ] seat and you"}, {"start": "00:18:58", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "know that's just what you want to do you"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:02", "text": "want to be there for the show right"}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:04", "text": "earlier kind of thing yeah you're going"}, {"start": "00:19:02", "end": "00:19:06", "text": "to watch Hamilton you know so you want"}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:08", "text": "the middle seat But also thinking about"}, {"start": "00:19:06", "end": "00:19:09", "text": "all right, where are the exits? You"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:11", "text": "know, where do I have the most"}, {"start": "00:19:09", "end": "00:19:14", "text": "visibility? If you are concerned about"}, {"start": "00:19:11", "end": "00:19:16", "text": "taking those extra steps, it seems like"}, {"start": "00:19:14", "end": "00:19:18", "text": "those are just also simple rules like"}, {"start": "00:19:16", "end": "00:19:19", "text": "keep your back to a wall or someplace"}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:23", "text": "that you can't go and then know what"}, {"start": "00:19:19", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "your escape in egress route is if"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "something goes down. So, there's and and"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:30", "text": "I'm glad that you bring this up because"}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:32", "text": "there are very simple, very uh"}, {"start": "00:19:30", "end": "00:19:34", "text": "demonstrable tools that you can use that"}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:37", "text": "you can remember to keep yourself safe."}, {"start": "00:19:34", "end": "00:19:39", "text": "When you park, park under a lamp. Don't"}, {"start": "00:19:37", "end": "00:19:41", "text": "park away from a lamp. Park under a"}, {"start": "00:19:39", "end": "00:19:43", "text": "lamp. Most people don't do that because"}, {"start": "00:19:41", "end": "00:19:45", "text": "they're afraid of birds pooping on their"}, {"start": "00:19:43", "end": "00:19:47", "text": "on their car or the lamp is too far away"}, {"start": "00:19:45", "end": "00:19:50", "text": "and there's a closer parking spot. park"}, {"start": "00:19:47", "end": "00:19:52", "text": "under a lamp post because if you're"}, {"start": "00:19:50", "end": "00:19:55", "text": "approaching your car at night, the the"}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:57", "text": "the dark and the light are opposites and"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:19:59", "text": "the light on your car will actually"}, {"start": "00:19:57", "end": "00:20:01", "text": "deter a threat from attacking you when"}, {"start": "00:19:59", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "they could attack someone else"}, {"start": "00:20:01", "end": "00:20:05", "text": ">> who's going to be in a darker area."}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:07", "text": ">> Backing into your parking spot. This is"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "a big one. We're taught to always back"}, {"start": "00:20:07", "end": "00:20:11", "text": "into our parking spot. We're also taught"}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "that when you choose a parking spot,"}, {"start": "00:20:11", "end": "00:20:17", "text": "choose a parking spot that has a direct"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:20", "text": "route of of escape. Not direct meaning"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:22", "text": "there's a straight road. Direct meaning"}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:24", "text": "there's no building or fence in your"}, {"start": "00:20:22", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "way. Your car can go over a curb. It can"}, {"start": "00:20:24", "end": "00:20:27", "text": "go over the grass. It can drive through"}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:28", "text": "the dirt."}, {"start": "00:20:27", "end": "00:20:29", "text": ">> You don't have to worry about those"}, {"start": "00:20:28", "end": "00:20:31", "text": "things. If there's a if there's a"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:32", "text": "disaster, if there's something, a fire"}, {"start": "00:20:31", "end": "00:20:34", "text": "that breaks out or a shooting that"}, {"start": "00:20:32", "end": "00:20:35", "text": "breaks out at the grocery store, you"}, {"start": "00:20:34", "end": "00:20:38", "text": "want to be able to get to your car,"}, {"start": "00:20:35", "end": "00:20:41", "text": "start your car, and drive straight away"}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:42", "text": "from the threat over the curb, through"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:46", "text": "the grass, over the dirt, onto the"}, {"start": "00:20:42", "end": "00:20:48", "text": "highway, right? That's way better than"}, {"start": "00:20:46", "end": "00:20:49", "text": "being trapped in some sort of gridlock"}, {"start": "00:20:48", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "thing where you're trying to back out"}, {"start": "00:20:49", "end": "00:20:52", "text": "and everybody else is trying to back out"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:54", "text": "and all of a sudden the cars hit each"}, {"start": "00:20:52", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "other and nobody can go anywhere."}, {"start": "00:20:54", "end": "00:20:58", "text": ">> So, park under a light, back into your"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:21:00", "text": "parking spot. When you're indoors, yes,"}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:02", "text": "you want your back to a wall. I"}, {"start": "00:21:00", "end": "00:21:04", "text": "completely agree with that. Even better"}, {"start": "00:21:02", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "if you can have your back against a"}, {"start": "00:21:04", "end": "00:21:06", "text": "solid wall, not a wall with glass,"}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:09", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "00:21:06", "end": "00:21:12", "text": ">> You don't want to be anywhere close to a"}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:15", "text": "road that parallels a glass storefront"}, {"start": "00:21:12", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "because now driveby attacks or even"}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "secondary attacks if they're trying to"}, {"start": "00:21:17", "end": "00:21:20", "text": "shoot somebody at the next restaurant"}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:22", "text": "over, right? But straight bullets come"}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:24", "text": "through the glass at your restaurant."}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "Now you have to worry about glass and"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:26", "text": "you have to worry about bullets and you"}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:29", "text": "have to worry about what you're wearing"}, {"start": "00:21:26", "end": "00:21:30", "text": "on your feet. So stay away from"}, {"start": "00:21:29", "end": "00:21:33", "text": "flip-flops, stay away from Crocs, look"}, {"start": "00:21:30", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "for laced shoes, look for solid toes cuz"}, {"start": "00:21:33", "end": "00:21:36", "text": "these are all things that are going to"}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:38", "text": "keep you safe in the event that the"}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:42", "text": "worst thing happens."}, {"start": "00:21:38", "end": "00:21:45", "text": ">> So back back to a uh a solid wall is"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:47", "text": "much better than back to a glass wall."}, {"start": "00:21:45", "end": "00:21:49", "text": "If you don't have a solid wall or if"}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "there's no no place available with a"}, {"start": "00:21:49", "end": "00:21:54", "text": "solid wall, then you want to be you want"}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:56", "text": "to have as few people between you and"}, {"start": "00:21:54", "end": "00:21:58", "text": "the wall behind you as possible. So you"}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:22:00", "text": "sit towards the back of the restaurant"}, {"start": "00:21:58", "end": "00:22:01", "text": "or you sit deeper into the restaurant"}, {"start": "00:22:00", "end": "00:22:03", "text": "rather than in the front. There's a"}, {"start": "00:22:01", "end": "00:22:06", "text": "spectrum that we have that we teach at"}, {"start": "00:22:03", "end": "00:22:07", "text": "CIA between convenience and security."}, {"start": "00:22:06", "end": "00:22:09", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:22:07", "end": "00:22:11", "text": ">> They're opposite sides of a spectrum. So"}, {"start": "00:22:09", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "wherever you land, you're going to land"}, {"start": "00:22:11", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "closer to one but further from the"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:17", "text": "other. And the more convenient your"}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:19", "text": "lifestyle is, the less secure it's going"}, {"start": "00:22:17", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "to be. And the more secure your"}, {"start": "00:22:19", "end": "00:22:21", "text": "lifestyle is, the less convenient it's"}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:23", "text": "going to be."}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:24", "text": ">> If you like that video, you're going to"}, {"start": "00:22:23", "end": "00:22:24", "text": "love the next one. And I'll see you"}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "there."}, {"start": "00:22:24", "end": "00:22:29", "text": ">> So, once you accept that nothing is"}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:31", "text": "fair, that also means there isn't really"}, {"start": "00:22:29", "end": "00:22:34", "text": "anything that's unfair. You can do"}, {"start": "00:22:31", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "whatever you need to improve yourself in"}, {"start": "00:22:34", "end": "00:22:36", "text": "your"}]

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So now"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "you want you know and so the the the the"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "place of assessment the data set that"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "you pitch yourself against changes all"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "the time. And so the idea of what is"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "enough changes all the time and it"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "becomes this constant treadmill."}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:04", "text": ">> Yeah. And then and then at some point"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:07", "text": "there there comes this almost like a"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:09", "text": "moral imperative where you realize that"}, {"start": "00:01:07", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "you have achieved what you've achieved"}, {"start": "00:01:09", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "and there's only a few people like you"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:16", "text": "who have done that. So, can you even"}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:19", "text": "stop now? Or do you have a moral"}, {"start": "00:01:16", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "obligation to keep going more, to keep"}, {"start": "00:01:19", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "going further? Because you could make"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:25", "text": "up, you could make a whole difference on"}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:27", "text": "your family generation. You can make a"}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:29", "text": "whole difference for your community. You"}, {"start": "00:01:27", "end": "00:01:31", "text": "can make a difference for your country."}, {"start": "00:01:29", "end": "00:01:34", "text": "And all of a sudden, you start to fall"}, {"start": "00:01:31", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "into this echo chamber of your own where"}, {"start": "00:01:34", "end": "00:01:39", "text": "you feel obligated to continue to"}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "achieve more. And for sure, the person"}, {"start": "00:01:39", "end": "00:01:42", "text": "who's just trying to survive day-to-day"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:43", "text": "doesn't understand that."}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:44", "text": ">> Yeah. Well, you become a symbol. You"}, {"start": "00:01:43", "end": "00:01:46", "text": "know, somebody told me early on in my"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:47", "text": "career, they said, \"Prak, you are now"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:48", "text": "becoming the voice of millions.\" And I"}, {"start": "00:01:47", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "was like, \"Wait, that's too much"}, {"start": "00:01:48", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "pressure.\" But if I'm the only one, then"}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:54", "text": "I'm going to find myself burdened by"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:56", "text": "responsibility to be the voice of"}, {"start": "00:01:54", "end": "00:01:58", "text": "millions. Whether I'm a good voice or a"}, {"start": "00:01:56", "end": "00:02:01", "text": "bad voice is completely immaterial at"}, {"start": "00:01:58", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "that point. I'm just now this role and I"}, {"start": "00:02:01", "end": "00:02:03", "text": "have to live this role out no matter"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "what. Right?"}, {"start": "00:02:03", "end": "00:02:07", "text": ">> And nobody forgives you. Nobody cares"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:10", "text": "about the real you."}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:13", "text": ">> Right? Because the real Par has his own"}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:14", "text": "challenges. Whatever it is, maybe"}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:15", "text": "there's something that upsets your"}, {"start": "00:02:14", "end": "00:02:17", "text": "stomach when you eat it. Maybe you have"}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "a hard time going to sleep at night."}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:20", "text": "Maybe it's difficult to get to the gym."}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:22", "text": "You've always wanted a pet and you"}, {"start": "00:02:20", "end": "00:02:25", "text": "haven't had time for a pet. There's"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:27", "text": "something in your life that isn't going"}, {"start": "00:02:25", "end": "00:02:29", "text": "the way you want it to go. But because"}, {"start": "00:02:27", "end": "00:02:33", "text": "you're busy being the voice of millions,"}, {"start": "00:02:29", "end": "00:02:35", "text": "those millions don't even stop to think"}, {"start": "00:02:33", "end": "00:02:37", "text": "about what you still need. They don't"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "even stop to think about the fact that"}, {"start": "00:02:37", "end": "00:02:40", "text": "maybe you go to bed late sometimes"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:41", "text": "feeling guilty about the fact that you"}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:43", "text": "didn't spend enough time with your"}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:45", "text": "fiance. They don't even stop to think"}, {"start": "00:02:43", "end": "00:02:49", "text": "about maybe you've been traveling for"}, {"start": "00:02:45", "end": "00:02:51", "text": "for 2 days, 15 days, 35 days, and you"}, {"start": "00:02:49", "end": "00:02:53", "text": "haven't had a home-cooked meal. And"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:55", "text": "maybe you haven't had, you know, maybe"}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "your body's feeling bad because you've"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:02:59", "text": "been sleeping in hotel beds. And"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "instead, they think, \"How awesome."}, {"start": "00:02:59", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "You're sleeping in hotels all over the"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "country, all over the world, and you're"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:05", "text": "sitting there and you're like, I just"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:06", "text": "want one good night's sleep in my own"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:08", "text": "bed."}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:10", "text": ">> No more flights, please, if I can. Just"}, {"start": "00:03:08", "end": "00:03:11", "text": "no more [ __ ] flying, dude. Like, you"}, {"start": "00:03:10", "end": "00:03:13", "text": "know, people think it's so glamorous"}, {"start": "00:03:11", "end": "00:03:15", "text": "when you travel around in I mean, I"}, {"start": "00:03:13", "end": "00:03:16", "text": "think I sure did when I was not"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "traveling as much. But then you"}, {"start": "00:03:16", "end": "00:03:20", "text": "eventually realize all airports look the"}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:23", "text": "same. All flights feel the same. And"}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:25", "text": "god, am I sick of myself in airports and"}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:26", "text": "in the flights? What do I do? There's so"}, {"start": "00:03:25", "end": "00:03:27", "text": "many. So, I get what you mean by that."}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:29", "text": "that part"}, {"start": "00:03:27", "end": "00:03:30", "text": ">> but the millions but the millions don't"}, {"start": "00:03:29", "end": "00:03:32", "text": "get it"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:35", "text": ">> and that's what I'm saying right"}, {"start": "00:03:32", "end": "00:03:37", "text": "everybody that we look up to we spend so"}, {"start": "00:03:35", "end": "00:03:39", "text": "much time looking up to the version of"}, {"start": "00:03:37", "end": "00:03:42", "text": "them that we see that we actually lose"}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:43", "text": "touch with them as individuals as actual"}, {"start": "00:03:42", "end": "00:03:46", "text": "people"}, {"start": "00:03:43", "end": "00:03:48", "text": "and even though we we say to each other"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "like hey I want you to see me for me and"}, {"start": "00:03:48", "end": "00:03:53", "text": "it's important that you understand me"}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:55", "text": "for me we don't look at these these"}, {"start": "00:03:53", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "politicians these leaders of industry"}, {"start": "00:03:55", "end": "00:04:00", "text": "these heads of media, we don't look at"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:01", "text": "them as people. We look at them as"}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "something else, whether it's a hero or a"}, {"start": "00:04:01", "end": "00:04:07", "text": "villain or something in between."}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:08", "text": ">> In vein of that, um, and this is"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:10", "text": "something I think you've touched upon in"}, {"start": "00:04:08", "end": "00:04:12", "text": "a bunch of conversations also. You've"}, {"start": "00:04:10", "end": "00:04:14", "text": "spoken with so many people and for so"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:16", "text": "many hours. I'm not sure if any of this"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "has already been touched, but this one I"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:21", "text": "I think you have. Um I wanted to"}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:25", "text": "understand what is the"}, {"start": "00:04:21", "end": "00:04:27", "text": "ingredient or ingredients to create"}, {"start": "00:04:25", "end": "00:04:30", "text": "psychological power which we famously"}, {"start": "00:04:27", "end": "00:04:32", "text": "call as influence like how does one go"}, {"start": "00:04:30", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "about creating influence."}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:37", "text": ">> So it's a influence is a is a phenomenal"}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:38", "text": "word that sometimes gets confused"}, {"start": "00:04:37", "end": "00:04:41", "text": ">> right"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:42", "text": ">> with the word persuasion. So persuasion"}, {"start": "00:04:41", "end": "00:04:43", "text": "and influence are two different things"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "and I want to start there because it's"}, {"start": "00:04:43", "end": "00:04:49", "text": "an important distinction. Persuasion is"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:52", "text": "something that can only be done when you"}, {"start": "00:04:49", "end": "00:04:54", "text": "are with a person in real time. So right"}, {"start": "00:04:52", "end": "00:04:57", "text": "now, you and I are talking in real time."}, {"start": "00:04:54", "end": "00:04:59", "text": "This is my opportunity to persuade you."}, {"start": "00:04:57", "end": "00:05:01", "text": "I can't influence you in this moment. I"}, {"start": "00:04:59", "end": "00:05:04", "text": "can only persuade you in this moment"}, {"start": "00:05:01", "end": "00:05:06", "text": "because I'm physically here with you."}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:09", "text": "After this call is over. If you haven't"}, {"start": "00:05:06", "end": "00:05:11", "text": "discovered your naturalborn spy skills,"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:14", "text": "then somebody else might be using theirs"}, {"start": "00:05:11", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "against you. CIA teaches us that there"}, {"start": "00:05:14", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "are only three types of people in the"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:19", "text": "world. Those who motivate, those who"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "manipulate, and those who are being"}, {"start": "00:05:19", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "controlled by one of the other two. I"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:27", "text": "created a threeinut CIA style quiz to"}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:29", "text": "help you unlock your secret"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "psychological advantage and identify"}, {"start": "00:05:29", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "your hidden blind spot. This test was"}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:35", "text": "developed to help you weaponize your"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:38", "text": "naturalb born gifts and use them to get"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:40", "text": "ahead of 99% of people in power, wealth,"}, {"start": "00:05:38", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "and purpose. It was also designed to"}, {"start": "00:05:40", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "make sure that you can protect yourself"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:45", "text": "against those who would use their skills"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:47", "text": "against you. All you have to do is click"}, {"start": "00:05:45", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "on the first link in the description"}, {"start": "00:05:47", "end": "00:05:51", "text": "below or scan the QR code on your screen"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:53", "text": "to start your spy quiz now. I want you"}, {"start": "00:05:51", "end": "00:05:56", "text": "to discover your secret spy superpower"}, {"start": "00:05:53", "end": "00:05:59", "text": "and use it for good before somebody else"}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "uses their power against you. And you go"}, {"start": "00:05:59", "end": "00:06:02", "text": "do whatever you're going to do with the"}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:04", "text": "rest of your night. And I go on and do"}, {"start": "00:06:02", "end": "00:06:06", "text": "whatever I'm going to do with the rest"}, {"start": "00:06:04", "end": "00:06:07", "text": "of my day."}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:09", "text": "That is the opportunity where persuasion"}, {"start": "00:06:07", "end": "00:06:12", "text": "is gone."}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "But influence is available. And if you"}, {"start": "00:06:12", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "have a conversation with your fiance or"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:18", "text": "with your producer or with a business"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "partner and you're like, I I had this"}, {"start": "00:06:18", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "great conversation today with this"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "former CIA guy with giant hair and"}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:28", "text": "here's what he said. That's me"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:30", "text": "influencing you, your conversation, and"}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:32", "text": "the person you're talking to. Likewise,"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:33", "text": "if I go out with my wife for lunch and"}, {"start": "00:06:32", "end": "00:06:34", "text": "I'm like, \"Oh, I had this great"}, {"start": "00:06:33", "end": "00:06:36", "text": "conversation with a with a major"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:39", "text": "podcaster in India named Par, you know,"}, {"start": "00:06:36", "end": "00:06:42", "text": "great guy, handsome as hell.\" Now,"}, {"start": "00:06:39", "end": "00:06:44", "text": "you're influencing me because influence"}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:45", "text": "can only happen when you're not"}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:47", "text": "together."}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "Persuasion is what happens when you're"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:52", "text": "together. Influence is what happens when"}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:55", "text": "you're not together. So, the number one"}, {"start": "00:06:52", "end": "00:06:58", "text": "most powerful thing for influence is"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "being able to gain someone's trust,"}, {"start": "00:06:58", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "their trust enough to just get them to"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:05", "text": "remember you. That's what's most"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:08", "text": "important. When you're trying to"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:10", "text": "persuade someone, the most important"}, {"start": "00:07:08", "end": "00:07:12", "text": "thing you can have is emotion. Because"}, {"start": "00:07:10", "end": "00:07:15", "text": "emotion is what makes two people connect"}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:17", "text": "here and now, but trust is what makes"}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:20", "text": "people connect after they're actually no"}, {"start": "00:07:17", "end": "00:07:21", "text": "longer talking to each other. It doesn't"}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:23", "text": "have to be trust in the person. You"}, {"start": "00:07:21", "end": "00:07:25", "text": "don't have to trust me. I don't have to"}, {"start": "00:07:23", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "trust you. But we have to question how"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "much we trust our own previous beliefs"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:33", "text": "and then bring up the new thought"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "process or the new pattern or the new"}, {"start": "00:07:33", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "idea that someone else brought forward."}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "And here's what's crazy. The more you"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "think about me and the more I think"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "about you, even when we're not together,"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:48", "text": "cognitively our brain considers that the"}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:49", "text": "same as if we were actually sitting"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "together."}, {"start": "00:07:49", "end": "00:07:53", "text": "So if you and I spent a week in India"}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:56", "text": "traveling India together, we would"}, {"start": "00:07:53", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "become close friends. Well, if I spend a"}, {"start": "00:07:56", "end": "00:08:01", "text": "week in the United States watching your"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:03", "text": "content, thinking about what you have to"}, {"start": "00:08:01", "end": "00:08:05", "text": "say, reading your your your thoughts and"}, {"start": "00:08:03", "end": "00:08:08", "text": "your messages, I'm going to build a"}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "relationship with you on my own, even"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:11", "text": "though you won't be building the same"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "relationship where you are because"}, {"start": "00:08:11", "end": "00:08:15", "text": "you're not thinking about me and reading"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "my books and and watching my content,"}, {"start": "00:08:15", "end": "00:08:19", "text": "right? So that's how this whole"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "influence thing works. That's why the"}, {"start": "00:08:19", "end": "00:08:24", "text": "most influential people in the world"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:26", "text": "have books, they have YouTube channels,"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:28", "text": "they have videos, they're on camera. You"}, {"start": "00:08:26", "end": "00:08:29", "text": "can find them and you can spend time"}, {"start": "00:08:28", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "with them when they don't spend time"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:36", "text": "with you. Because that influence lasts"}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:38", "text": "for a long time, even long after they've"}, {"start": "00:08:36", "end": "00:08:39", "text": "said the words that they're saying,"}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:41", "text": "simply because you're thinking about"}, {"start": "00:08:39", "end": "00:08:43", "text": "them. You're building a relationship"}, {"start": "00:08:41", "end": "00:08:45", "text": "with them that they're not building with"}, {"start": "00:08:43", "end": "00:08:47", "text": "you. Hm. So if I had to build influence,"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:49", "text": "what I have to do is effectively"}, {"start": "00:08:47", "end": "00:08:51", "text": "persuade people without being there,"}, {"start": "00:08:49", "end": "00:08:53", "text": "right? Like if I if I can pass on"}, {"start": "00:08:51", "end": "00:08:55", "text": "emotion through my videos, my books, my"}, {"start": "00:08:53", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "podcast, whatever. And then people in"}, {"start": "00:08:55", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "their own time consume it, the eventual"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:01", "text": "outcome is influence. And this is a"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "technological version of it. But if I"}, {"start": "00:09:01", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "meet somebody and I persuade them and"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:06", "text": "they find me to be trusting and they"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:08", "text": "think about me later, I'm already"}, {"start": "00:09:06", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "generating influence that way. If two"}, {"start": "00:09:08", "end": "00:09:10", "text": "people are talking about me somewhere"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:12", "text": "else,"}, {"start": "00:09:10", "end": "00:09:14", "text": ">> then they're talking to each other."}, {"start": "00:09:12", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "third person listens to that, there is a"}, {"start": "00:09:14", "end": "00:09:16", "text": "scope, there's a chance that they might"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:18", "text": "be influenced."}, {"start": "00:09:16", "end": "00:09:21", "text": ">> You're building influence still. Exactly"}, {"start": "00:09:18", "end": "00:09:23", "text": "right. Exactly right. Because you're not"}, {"start": "00:09:21", "end": "00:09:25", "text": "even present. And here's what's so"}, {"start": "00:09:23", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "powerful. When you're not present and"}, {"start": "00:09:25", "end": "00:09:29", "text": "somebody else is representing your"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "ideas, that's something in CIA that we"}, {"start": "00:09:29", "end": "00:09:34", "text": "call an advocate."}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:36", "text": ">> When an advocate is representing you,"}, {"start": "00:09:34", "end": "00:09:39", "text": "you gain the credibility and the"}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:40", "text": "authority and the influence of the"}, {"start": "00:09:39", "end": "00:09:43", "text": "advocate."}, {"start": "00:09:40", "end": "00:09:45", "text": "So, think about that, right? Um, I'm"}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:48", "text": "going to be speaking to the uh European"}, {"start": "00:09:45", "end": "00:09:52", "text": "Union Parliament in Brussels after the"}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:54", "text": "new year. I I I was invited to speak to"}, {"start": "00:09:52", "end": "00:09:56", "text": "the entire parliament by one"}, {"start": "00:09:54", "end": "00:09:58", "text": "representative, the representative of"}, {"start": "00:09:56", "end": "00:09:59", "text": "Cypress."}, {"start": "00:09:58", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "Because of the representative of"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:06", "text": "Cypress, I'm being pulled into this"}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:09", "text": "formal government entity."}, {"start": "00:10:06", "end": "00:10:12", "text": "The Cypress person is my advocate"}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:14", "text": "and he is lending his credibility, his"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:18", "text": "authority as a parliamentarian"}, {"start": "00:10:14", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "to the entire parliament. So now I have"}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:21", "text": "an opportunity to speak to people that I"}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:23", "text": "would otherwise never get to speak to"}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:28", "text": "because of a single advocate and the"}, {"start": "00:10:23", "end": "00:10:29", "text": "influence I've had on that one advocate."}, {"start": "00:10:28", "end": "00:10:31", "text": "And that's an example of what we all do"}, {"start": "00:10:29", "end": "00:10:32", "text": "every day. Whether you're looking for a"}, {"start": "00:10:31", "end": "00:10:34", "text": "new job, whether you're looking for a"}, {"start": "00:10:32", "end": "00:10:37", "text": "new spouse, whether you're looking for a"}, {"start": "00:10:34", "end": "00:10:39", "text": "new opportunity, the advocates that"}, {"start": "00:10:37", "end": "00:10:42", "text": "carry your influence forward are super"}, {"start": "00:10:39", "end": "00:10:44", "text": "powerful and you don't even have to be"}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:47", "text": "there."}, {"start": "00:10:44", "end": "00:10:49", "text": ">> How is this different from manipulation?"}, {"start": "00:10:47", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "Theoretically speaking, are they the"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:54", "text": "same thing? Are they somewhat different?"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:56", "text": "Um how does one sort of because there is"}, {"start": "00:10:54", "end": "00:10:59", "text": "an ethical line to this, you know. Um"}, {"start": "00:10:56", "end": "00:11:03", "text": "once a person in our position who"}, {"start": "00:10:59", "end": "00:11:05", "text": "already has influence thanks to media,"}, {"start": "00:11:03", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "we ask ourselves about this all the"}, {"start": "00:11:05", "end": "00:11:08", "text": "time. I'm sure you get approached by"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "companies who want to work with you and"}, {"start": "00:11:08", "end": "00:11:11", "text": "you don't want to work with them because"}, {"start": "00:11:09", "end": "00:11:13", "text": "you don't find so there is this there's"}, {"start": "00:11:11", "end": "00:11:14", "text": "this place where once somebody wields"}, {"start": "00:11:13", "end": "00:11:16", "text": "influence and everybody wields influence"}, {"start": "00:11:14", "end": "00:11:18", "text": "in some level. A father wields influence"}, {"start": "00:11:16", "end": "00:11:21", "text": "over their kids and so on and so forth."}, {"start": "00:11:18", "end": "00:11:22", "text": "I have influence over my friends."}, {"start": "00:11:21", "end": "00:11:25", "text": "At what point does that become"}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "manipulative or is it always"}, {"start": "00:11:25", "end": "00:11:27", "text": "manipulation? It's in the eye of the"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:29", "text": "beholder kind of thing."}, {"start": "00:11:27", "end": "00:11:32", "text": ">> It's a great it's a great question. So,"}, {"start": "00:11:29", "end": "00:11:35", "text": "let's think about um let's think about"}, {"start": "00:11:32", "end": "00:11:38", "text": "manipulation, right? And what it really"}, {"start": "00:11:35", "end": "00:11:41", "text": "is, not the buzzword, but what it really"}, {"start": "00:11:38", "end": "00:11:43", "text": "is. Manipulation is nothing more than"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:45", "text": "getting people to do something you want"}, {"start": "00:11:43", "end": "00:11:48", "text": "them to do"}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:50", "text": "that is not in their best interest."}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:52", "text": "That's what makes it manipulation."}, {"start": "00:11:50", "end": "00:11:54", "text": "You're getting them to do something you"}, {"start": "00:11:52", "end": "00:11:57", "text": "want them to do, but what they're doing"}, {"start": "00:11:54", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "for you doesn't benefit them. That's"}, {"start": "00:11:57", "end": "00:12:03", "text": "what makes it manipulation."}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:05", "text": "The opposite of that is when you get"}, {"start": "00:12:03", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "someone to do something that you want"}, {"start": "00:12:05", "end": "00:12:12", "text": "them to do that is also beneficial for"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:14", "text": "them. We have a word for that. We call"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:16", "text": "that motivation."}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:18", "text": "So, when you get someone to take an"}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:21", "text": "action that you want them to take and"}, {"start": "00:12:18", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "that action benefits them, that's called"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "motivation. When you get someone to take"}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:26", "text": "an action and that action doesn't"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:29", "text": "benefit them, that's called"}, {"start": "00:12:26", "end": "00:12:33", "text": "manipulation. So, what you really have"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "here is two terms that mean the same"}, {"start": "00:12:33", "end": "00:12:37", "text": "thing because at the end of the day,"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "whether you're manipulating someone or"}, {"start": "00:12:37", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "motivating them, you're still getting"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:45", "text": "them to take an action that you want"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:47", "text": "them to take, right? So what what we"}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:49", "text": "learn at CIA is that motivation and"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:52", "text": "manipulation are like two sides of a"}, {"start": "00:12:49", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "coin. The value of the coin is the metal"}, {"start": "00:12:52", "end": "00:12:57", "text": "itself."}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:59", "text": "But printed on one side of the metal is"}, {"start": "00:12:57", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "heads and printed on the other side of"}, {"start": "00:12:59", "end": "00:13:03", "text": "the metal is tails. Essentially printed"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "on one side is manipulation. Printed on"}, {"start": "00:13:03", "end": "00:13:08", "text": "the other side is motivation. But the"}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:10", "text": "value of the coin is the same. The value"}, {"start": "00:13:08", "end": "00:13:13", "text": "of the metal is the same. What it"}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:15", "text": "represents is the same."}, {"start": "00:13:13", "end": "00:13:16", "text": "So when we talk about how to manipulate"}, {"start": "00:13:15", "end": "00:13:18", "text": "people or if people are being"}, {"start": "00:13:16", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "manipulated, the answer is we're all"}, {"start": "00:13:18", "end": "00:13:23", "text": "being manipulated all the time because"}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "we're either being motivated to take an"}, {"start": "00:13:23", "end": "00:13:28", "text": "action or we're being manipulated to"}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:32", "text": "take an action, but we're taking some"}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:34", "text": "kind of an action. And if you want to"}, {"start": "00:13:32", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "control your own success, if you want to"}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "control your own opportunity in the"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:43", "text": "future, you learn that you need to"}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:46", "text": "either motivate or manipulate or even"}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:48", "text": "better both in order to achieve what you"}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "want to achieve because someone is"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "always driving. That's another message"}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:56", "text": "that we drill into each other at CIA."}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:59", "text": "You are either in control"}, {"start": "00:13:56", "end": "00:14:02", "text": "or you are under control."}, {"start": "00:13:59", "end": "00:14:03", "text": "And that's all of life. If you are in"}, {"start": "00:14:02", "end": "00:14:05", "text": "control, then you're motivating and"}, {"start": "00:14:03", "end": "00:14:09", "text": "manipulating others to get what you"}, {"start": "00:14:05", "end": "00:14:11", "text": "want. If you are under control, then you"}, {"start": "00:14:09", "end": "00:14:13", "text": "are being manipulated or being motivated"}, {"start": "00:14:11", "end": "00:14:15", "text": "to take actions that benefit somebody"}, {"start": "00:14:13", "end": "00:14:18", "text": "else."}, {"start": "00:14:15", "end": "00:14:20", "text": ">> Interesting. Um"}, {"start": "00:14:18", "end": "00:14:22", "text": "h how do you then understand something"}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:25", "text": "like charm? Um and I'll give you a"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:26", "text": "little context. Well, thanks to my job,"}, {"start": "00:14:25", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "I get to meet some extremely charming"}, {"start": "00:14:26", "end": "00:14:33", "text": "people and I always ask them about what"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:35", "text": "is charm. If these folks who are masters"}, {"start": "00:14:33", "end": "00:14:37", "text": "of their craft can put a finger on what"}, {"start": "00:14:35", "end": "00:14:39", "text": "charm is and I've never quite gotten a"}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "satisfactory answer, but I do know for a"}, {"start": "00:14:39", "end": "00:14:44", "text": "fact charm will create persuasion. Charm"}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:46", "text": "will create influence and charm allows"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:48", "text": "me to motivate or manipulate. It seems"}, {"start": "00:14:46", "end": "00:14:50", "text": "like it's at the root of all of this in"}, {"start": "00:14:48", "end": "00:14:52", "text": "some way. And I don't mean charm in the"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "most glamorous sense of the word. It's"}, {"start": "00:14:52", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "not Gatsby, but there's charm in"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:57", "text": "everyday conversation. You know, people"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "can be people somebody can make you"}, {"start": "00:14:57", "end": "00:15:02", "text": "smile or laugh or think or wonder. And"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "it's it's it's one version of charm. So,"}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:05", "text": "I'm just trying to wonder what is charm."}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:08", "text": "How do you understand it? And how do you"}, {"start": "00:15:05", "end": "00:15:10", "text": "wield it? At CIA, we don't use the word"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:12", "text": "charm. We actually use the word charisma"}, {"start": "00:15:10", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "for the same thing that you're talking"}, {"start": "00:15:12", "end": "00:15:16", "text": "about. And a charismatic person, to"}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:17", "text": "answer your question, and hopefully this"}, {"start": "00:15:16", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "is maybe one of the first satisfactory"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:24", "text": "answers you get. All charisma or charm"}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:27", "text": "really is is being able to validate the"}, {"start": "00:15:24", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "other person. If I can validate you, I"}, {"start": "00:15:27", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "create a whole series of cognitive"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:39", "text": "next steps that make you like me. And at"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:41", "text": "at its base, charisma is likability,"}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:43", "text": "right? But people don't like you because"}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "of how you're different from them."}, {"start": "00:15:43", "end": "00:15:47", "text": "People like you because of how you're"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "similar to them. So charisma is all"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "about when you when you validate"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "somebody else's feelings, validate their"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:57", "text": "experience, validate their knowledge,"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "validate their ex their um feelings and"}, {"start": "00:15:57", "end": "00:16:00", "text": "desires, right?"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:04", "text": ">> Yeah. If you validate them, they will"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:07", "text": "naturally like you and they will find"}, {"start": "00:16:04", "end": "00:16:09", "text": "you to be charismatic and persuasive and"}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:12", "text": "as soon as you leave the room, they will"}, {"start": "00:16:09", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "find you to be influential and they will"}, {"start": "00:16:12", "end": "00:16:15", "text": "tell other people about you. And the"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:17", "text": "people that they tell about you are"}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:20", "text": "going to be people who are already like"}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:23", "text": "them. So then when you meet them, you"}, {"start": "00:16:20", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "validate them as well. Technology makes"}, {"start": "00:16:23", "end": "00:16:27", "text": "charisma incredibly powerful. Now the"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:30", "text": "algorithm that's out there makes"}, {"start": "00:16:27", "end": "00:16:33", "text": "charisma super powerful because whatever"}, {"start": "00:16:30", "end": "00:16:35", "text": "message you share, the algorithm will"}, {"start": "00:16:33", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "make sure that it feeds that message to"}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:40", "text": "people who are receptive to that"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:43", "text": "message. So, when you validate somebody,"}, {"start": "00:16:40", "end": "00:16:46", "text": "when you validate a middle-aged man for"}, {"start": "00:16:43", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "being overlooked at home and overworked"}, {"start": "00:16:46", "end": "00:16:51", "text": "at work, when you validate him, the"}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:53", "text": "algorithm feeds you to a million other"}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "middle-aged men. And all those"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:58", "text": "middle-aged men feel the same way. So"}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:17:00", "text": "then they all believe that you are this"}, {"start": "00:16:58", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "charismatic leader simply because you're"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "validating something in their experience"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "that their wives don't validate, their"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:10", "text": "bosses don't validate, their kids don't"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "validate, their friends don't validate,"}, {"start": "00:17:10", "end": "00:17:13", "text": "and that is charisma."}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:15", "text": ">> But I mean, I can also imagine a version"}, {"start": "00:17:13", "end": "00:17:17", "text": "of validating somebody else's experience"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:20", "text": "by just nodding my head and saying yes."}, {"start": "00:17:17", "end": "00:17:21", "text": "But that like you know that's I feel"}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:23", "text": "like there is an element of like"}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:25", "text": "pointing to the future that's built into"}, {"start": "00:17:23", "end": "00:17:28", "text": "charisma not in the literal sense where"}, {"start": "00:17:25", "end": "00:17:30", "text": "here is a solution that you know but"}, {"start": "00:17:28", "end": "00:17:32", "text": "it's there is there's a certain"}, {"start": "00:17:30", "end": "00:17:35", "text": "illumination of something that occurs as"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:37", "text": "a function of charisma where once I'm"}, {"start": "00:17:35", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "validated they also lead me into"}, {"start": "00:17:37", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "something and I want to be led. Does"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:42", "text": "that make sense or am I putting things"}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:43", "text": "together?"}, {"start": "00:17:42", "end": "00:17:46", "text": ">> You're you're talking about influence"}, {"start": "00:17:43", "end": "00:17:48", "text": "now. Exactly. Right. Once once you've"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "been validated, you trust that person."}, {"start": "00:17:48", "end": "00:17:52", "text": "And what's the most important thing for"}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:54", "text": "influence? Trust."}, {"start": "00:17:52", "end": "00:17:56", "text": ">> And now you trust that they can lead you"}, {"start": "00:17:54", "end": "00:17:58", "text": "to success. And here's what's what's"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:18:01", "text": "crazy, Par. In order to validate"}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:04", "text": "somebody, you don't actually have to"}, {"start": "00:18:01", "end": "00:18:05", "text": "agree or believe in them."}, {"start": "00:18:04", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "You just have to tell them that what"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:12", "text": "they think or feel is true. So you could"}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:14", "text": "validate anybody. You could men can"}, {"start": "00:18:12", "end": "00:18:16", "text": "validate women. Children can validate"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:18", "text": "adults."}, {"start": "00:18:16", "end": "00:18:21", "text": "Rich people can validate poor people"}, {"start": "00:18:18", "end": "00:18:23", "text": "without actually even meaning it"}, {"start": "00:18:21", "end": "00:18:25", "text": ">> just by restating something that that"}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:28", "text": "person already has in their head. That's"}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "what makes covert influence so powerful."}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "Because covert influence is nothing more"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:35", "text": "than validating a target audience with a"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "message that will resound or resonate"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "with them even though you yourself may"}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:41", "text": "not believe it. If you like that video,"}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:43", "text": "you're going to love the next one and"}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:47", "text": "I'll see you there. You only have one"}, {"start": "00:18:43", "end": "00:18:49", "text": "life. You only have one chance. If you"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "spend it doing what other people expect"}, {"start": "00:18:49", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "you to do, you will wake up to your"}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:56", "text": "regret at some"}]

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[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "Hey ninjas, welcome to the show. Guess"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "what? Pastors were gathered all over the"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "nation and they are debriefed by"}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "government and intelligence officials"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "about the upcoming alien invasion. Is it"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "a deception? Is it real? Probably a"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:16", "text": "deception. We're going to talk about it."}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:17", "text": ">> And the US Navy is strapping bombs to"}, {"start": "00:00:16", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "dolphins, ladies and gentlemen. They've"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "been doing it since Vietnam. It's a wild"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "ride."}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:23", "text": ">> Last week we talked about Russian"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "cryptids. This week we're talking about"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "Alaska and Appalachia. And there's more"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "connections than you can even imagine."}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "It's going to be nuts. And unless you're"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "trapped in a double inception deception."}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:36", "text": ">> This podcast is brought to you empowered"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "by Sunday. So watch this or listen."}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:39", "text": ">> A double inception deception."}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:41", "text": ">> Oh, that that's what she said."}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:41", "text": ">> A double inception deception."}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:43", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:46", "text": ">> A double inception deception."}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:47", "text": ">> That sounds like a ding double"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "inception. A deception."}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:52", "text": ">> Really quick, if you could put any kind"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "of AI crazy image underneath a picture"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "of a t-shirt for a transition to the"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "next segment, like what would be there?"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "Uh, Nessie."}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:00:59", "text": ">> What's Nessie doing? Vladimir Putin's"}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "wearing the shirt on Nessie."}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:01", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:04", "text": ">> What are you talking about?"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:04", "text": ">> You'll see."}, {"start": "00:01:14", "end": "00:01:18", "text": ">> Andrew. And Andrew is getting me snacks"}, {"start": "00:01:17", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "every episode."}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:23", "text": ">> That's very nice."}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:24", "text": ">> Maybe you want something."}, {"start": "00:01:23", "end": "00:01:25", "text": ">> Money, perhaps."}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:26", "text": ">> Money."}, {"start": "00:01:25", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "trying to bribe you or something."}, {"start": "00:01:26", "end": "00:01:30", "text": ">> It's a cool jacket."}, {"start": "00:01:28", "end": "00:01:32", "text": ">> You think"}, {"start": "00:01:30", "end": "00:01:33", "text": ">> we bought that for the 80s video, didn't"}, {"start": "00:01:32", "end": "00:01:36", "text": "we? Yeah."}, {"start": "00:01:33", "end": "00:01:36", "text": ">> Uh, a fan sent us that a long time ago."}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:38", "text": ">> Oh, really? Yeah."}, {"start": "00:01:36", "end": "00:01:38", "text": ">> We used it for the 80s video for sure."}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:40", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:01:38", "end": "00:01:42", "text": ">> I have to wear a jacket because it's"}, {"start": "00:01:40", "end": "00:01:44", "text": "flipping cold in here."}, {"start": "00:01:42", "end": "00:01:46", "text": ">> It is cold. I literally I I just told"}, {"start": "00:01:44", "end": "00:01:49", "text": "you I had to leave the office because I"}, {"start": "00:01:46", "end": "00:01:51", "text": "couldn't focus. My legs were too cold"}, {"start": "00:01:49", "end": "00:01:53", "text": "and I I was like, I will work from home."}, {"start": "00:01:51", "end": "00:01:55", "text": "I can't do this right now. I'm going to"}, {"start": "00:01:53", "end": "00:01:59", "text": "bring in a blanket. What personality"}, {"start": "00:01:55", "end": "00:02:02", "text": "type exists where there's one person in"}, {"start": "00:01:59", "end": "00:02:05", "text": "the room that likes this temperature and"}, {"start": "00:02:02", "end": "00:02:07", "text": "they win the temperature gauge? What"}, {"start": "00:02:05", "end": "00:02:09", "text": "personality type is that?"}, {"start": "00:02:07", "end": "00:02:10", "text": ">> So, a control freak who gets their own"}, {"start": "00:02:09", "end": "00:02:11", "text": "way."}, {"start": "00:02:10", "end": "00:02:13", "text": ">> That's me."}, {"start": "00:02:11", "end": "00:02:15", "text": ">> No, I like it cold."}, {"start": "00:02:13", "end": "00:02:17", "text": ">> Andrew, you're too cold."}, {"start": "00:02:15", "end": "00:02:17", "text": ">> My thing is if you're cold, what's it"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:19", "text": "with the"}, {"start": "00:02:17", "end": "00:02:22", "text": ">> We can get warm. You can get warm in"}, {"start": "00:02:19", "end": "00:02:24", "text": "here. We got sweaters, Sunny Cooled"}, {"start": "00:02:22", "end": "00:02:26", "text": "Prince blankets. We can get warm. If"}, {"start": "00:02:24", "end": "00:02:28", "text": "you're hot,"}, {"start": "00:02:26", "end": "00:02:30", "text": "you can't get cold unless you get a"}, {"start": "00:02:28", "end": "00:02:31", "text": "bucket of ice to put your feet in."}, {"start": "00:02:30", "end": "00:02:32", "text": ">> Truth."}, {"start": "00:02:31", "end": "00:02:35", "text": ">> And that's just uncomfortable. Then you"}, {"start": "00:02:32", "end": "00:02:36", "text": "got wet, cold feet. And we know what"}, {"start": "00:02:35", "end": "00:02:38", "text": "happens when you get cold feet."}, {"start": "00:02:36", "end": "00:02:40", "text": ">> What happens?"}, {"start": "00:02:38", "end": "00:02:40", "text": ">> You leave them at the altar."}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:41", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:02:40", "end": "00:02:42", "text": ">> Families are ruined."}, {"start": "00:02:41", "end": "00:02:44", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:02:42", "end": "00:02:46", "text": ">> Oh my gosh. Speaking of leaving people"}, {"start": "00:02:44", "end": "00:02:48", "text": "at the altar,"}, {"start": "00:02:46", "end": "00:02:50", "text": ">> Pride and Prejudice."}, {"start": "00:02:48", "end": "00:02:51", "text": ">> Remind me. What? What's that one?"}, {"start": "00:02:50", "end": "00:02:53", "text": ">> Are you serious?"}, {"start": "00:02:51", "end": "00:02:55", "text": ">> No, I'm joking. Go. I just learned this."}, {"start": "00:02:53", "end": "00:02:57", "text": "It's so gossipy though. It's like almost"}, {"start": "00:02:55", "end": "00:03:00", "text": "not worth talking about. And I also"}, {"start": "00:02:57", "end": "00:03:02", "text": "don't know if it's true. Rosman Pike it"}, {"start": "00:03:00", "end": "00:03:03", "text": "plays uh Jane Bennett,"}, {"start": "00:03:02", "end": "00:03:05", "text": ">> her sister, right?"}, {"start": "00:03:03", "end": "00:03:06", "text": ">> Yeah. I mean, the most beautiful woman"}, {"start": "00:03:05", "end": "00:03:07", "text": "in the entire world."}, {"start": "00:03:06", "end": "00:03:09", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "00:03:07", "end": "00:03:12", "text": ">> She plays Jane Bennett."}, {"start": "00:03:09", "end": "00:03:15", "text": ">> Get this. Before they started filming"}, {"start": "00:03:12", "end": "00:03:17", "text": "this movie, she and Bingley, the actor"}, {"start": "00:03:15", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "that plays Bingley, who she marries in"}, {"start": "00:03:17", "end": "00:03:18", "text": "Pride and Prejudice."}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:20", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:03:18", "end": "00:03:23", "text": ">> Who she marries in Pride and Prejudice."}, {"start": "00:03:20", "end": "00:03:23", "text": ">> Yeah. were engaged to one another."}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:26", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:03:23", "end": "00:03:28", "text": ">> And apparently she made the save the"}, {"start": "00:03:26", "end": "00:03:30", "text": "date invitations and like didn't run him"}, {"start": "00:03:28", "end": "00:03:31", "text": "past him and it was like a cheeky"}, {"start": "00:03:30", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "picture of them in the tub or something."}, {"start": "00:03:31", "end": "00:03:33", "text": "Just like a silly picture."}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:36", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:03:33", "end": "00:03:39", "text": ">> And he was so embarrassed that he called"}, {"start": "00:03:36", "end": "00:03:41", "text": "off the wedding like and ghosted her."}, {"start": "00:03:39", "end": "00:03:45", "text": ">> What?"}, {"start": "00:03:41", "end": "00:03:46", "text": ">> And then they never resolve and then"}, {"start": "00:03:45", "end": "00:03:49", "text": "they go to film Pride and Prejudice"}, {"start": "00:03:46", "end": "00:03:52", "text": "together as each other's love interests."}, {"start": "00:03:49", "end": "00:03:52", "text": ">> That's rough. That's crazy. That's"}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:54", "text": "actually nuts."}, {"start": "00:03:52", "end": "00:03:56", "text": ">> Is it true? I don't know. I just saw"}, {"start": "00:03:54", "end": "00:03:57", "text": "someone talking about it, but I'm like,"}, {"start": "00:03:56", "end": "00:03:58", "text": ">> what are you talking about?"}, {"start": "00:03:57", "end": "00:04:00", "text": ">> That is the craziest story in the world."}, {"start": "00:03:58", "end": "00:04:02", "text": "Also, breaking up with Roseman Pike."}, {"start": "00:04:00", "end": "00:04:04", "text": "What?"}, {"start": "00:04:02", "end": "00:04:04", "text": ">> Yeah, you the bag."}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:05", "text": ">> I would."}, {"start": "00:04:04", "end": "00:04:07", "text": ">> Why?"}, {"start": "00:04:05", "end": "00:04:09", "text": ">> Because I got Because you"}, {"start": "00:04:07", "end": "00:04:11", "text": ">> I know,"}, {"start": "00:04:09", "end": "00:04:12", "text": ">> dude. Nice, Lily. I know."}, {"start": "00:04:11", "end": "00:04:12", "text": ">> Never break up with her."}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:14", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:04:12", "end": "00:04:16", "text": ">> I know you feel like you're behind on"}, {"start": "00:04:14", "end": "00:04:17", "text": "your knitting project, but you got to"}, {"start": "00:04:16", "end": "00:04:18", "text": "eat the mic."}, {"start": "00:04:17", "end": "00:04:20", "text": ">> I can move like this."}, {"start": "00:04:18", "end": "00:04:23", "text": ">> There you go. Speaking of knitting and"}, {"start": "00:04:20", "end": "00:04:26", "text": "being cold, shout out to Ashley and"}, {"start": "00:04:23", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "Lindsay who are literally building my"}, {"start": "00:04:26", "end": "00:04:29", "text": "t-shirt blanket right now."}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:32", "text": ">> I did mess up."}, {"start": "00:04:29", "end": "00:04:34", "text": ">> Incredible pe. Guess what? Guess who's"}, {"start": "00:04:32", "end": "00:04:35", "text": "not going to mess up? Lindsay and"}, {"start": "00:04:34", "end": "00:04:36", "text": "Ashley."}, {"start": "00:04:35", "end": "00:04:38", "text": ">> Thank you so much to everyone who"}, {"start": "00:04:36", "end": "00:04:39", "text": "emailed me. I had like 60 people"}, {"start": "00:04:38", "end": "00:04:40", "text": ">> that's so cool"}, {"start": "00:04:39", "end": "00:04:42", "text": ">> email me about this t-shirt goal. And I"}, {"start": "00:04:40", "end": "00:04:44", "text": "I'm saving all y'all's emails and I"}, {"start": "00:04:42", "end": "00:04:46", "text": "appreciate everyone that reached out"}, {"start": "00:04:44", "end": "00:04:48", "text": "because I'm gonna have more t-shirts"}, {"start": "00:04:46", "end": "00:04:50", "text": "later on and I may reach out to you. Um,"}, {"start": "00:04:48", "end": "00:04:53", "text": "but I had to pick uh two people because"}, {"start": "00:04:50", "end": "00:04:55", "text": "I had so many shirts and um, man, it's"}, {"start": "00:04:53", "end": "00:04:58", "text": "gonna be awesome. I have a lady Ashley."}, {"start": "00:04:55", "end": "00:05:00", "text": "She lives in the bush in Alaska."}, {"start": "00:04:58", "end": "00:05:03", "text": ">> Got a story for her today."}, {"start": "00:05:00", "end": "00:05:04", "text": ">> Things are like get shipped by like"}, {"start": "00:05:03", "end": "00:05:05", "text": "planes up there."}, {"start": "00:05:04", "end": "00:05:07", "text": ">> That's so"}, {"start": "00:05:05", "end": "00:05:09", "text": ">> takes forever. It's going to be dope."}, {"start": "00:05:07", "end": "00:05:10", "text": "Can't wait. So, shout out to y'all. I"}, {"start": "00:05:09", "end": "00:05:13", "text": "love you all. Appreciate you. Also,"}, {"start": "00:05:10", "end": "00:05:16", "text": "shout out to everyone that comments on"}, {"start": "00:05:13", "end": "00:05:18", "text": "this video, this podcast episode,"}, {"start": "00:05:16", "end": "00:05:20", "text": "because we are choosing one winner a"}, {"start": "00:05:18", "end": "00:05:22", "text": "week, people to send some Ninja merch,"}, {"start": "00:05:20", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "too. And we got some new Ninja merch in"}, {"start": "00:05:22", "end": "00:05:24", "text": "the works, so you might get some new"}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:25", "text": "stuff."}, {"start": "00:05:24", "end": "00:05:27", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:05:25", "end": "00:05:30", "text": ">> Um, but yeah, if you comment, like,"}, {"start": "00:05:27", "end": "00:05:31", "text": "share, make sure you're subscribed. It"}, {"start": "00:05:30", "end": "00:05:33", "text": "helps out a ton."}, {"start": "00:05:31", "end": "00:05:35", "text": ">> And it's not like just a sticker. I'm"}, {"start": "00:05:33", "end": "00:05:37", "text": "sending this out personally, and I'm"}, {"start": "00:05:35", "end": "00:05:39", "text": "telling you, it could be a hat and a"}, {"start": "00:05:37", "end": "00:05:42", "text": "shirt and socks. It could be stickers."}, {"start": "00:05:39", "end": "00:05:43", "text": "It could be literally a whole mess of"}, {"start": "00:05:42", "end": "00:05:44", "text": "things. I'm getting messages from people"}, {"start": "00:05:43", "end": "00:05:46", "text": "back. They're like, \"Hey, I got my swag."}, {"start": "00:05:44", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "Thank you so much just for commenting."}, {"start": "00:05:46", "end": "00:05:48", "text": "This is great.\" So, what do they have to"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:49", "text": "comment?"}, {"start": "00:05:48", "end": "00:05:50", "text": ">> Um,"}, {"start": "00:05:49", "end": "00:05:52", "text": ">> something nice."}, {"start": "00:05:50", "end": "00:05:52", "text": ">> Something nice about who?"}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:55", "text": ">> Uh, me."}, {"start": "00:05:52", "end": "00:05:56", "text": ">> You got spoiled. You We've been doubling"}, {"start": "00:05:55", "end": "00:05:57", "text": "up on Give it to Andrew."}, {"start": "00:05:56", "end": "00:05:58", "text": ">> Give it to Andrew. He just had Didn't"}, {"start": "00:05:57", "end": "00:06:00", "text": "you just have"}, {"start": "00:05:58", "end": "00:06:01", "text": ">> a baby? I didn't just have a kid."}, {"start": "00:06:00", "end": "00:06:03", "text": ">> OH MY GOSH."}, {"start": "00:06:01", "end": "00:06:06", "text": ">> He's healthy. Healthy baby boy. Dude,"}, {"start": "00:06:03", "end": "00:06:09", "text": ">> I can't wait. I can't wait till Noah's"}, {"start": "00:06:06", "end": "00:06:11", "text": "like 12 and we're still doing this."}, {"start": "00:06:09", "end": "00:06:13", "text": "Dude, he's doing good. He had a gnarly"}, {"start": "00:06:11", "end": "00:06:15", "text": "regression last night, though. We were"}, {"start": "00:06:13", "end": "00:06:17", "text": "getting four or five hours and then"}, {"start": "00:06:15", "end": "00:06:19", "text": "about two and a half, three hours in, he"}, {"start": "00:06:17", "end": "00:06:20", "text": "just lost it. Like Paige was like, \"What"}, {"start": "00:06:19", "end": "00:06:21", "text": "did you I was changing him.\" She's like,"}, {"start": "00:06:20", "end": "00:06:23", "text": "\"What did you do to him?\" I was like, \"I"}, {"start": "00:06:21", "end": "00:06:25", "text": "promise you nothing.\" Just screaming."}, {"start": "00:06:23", "end": "00:06:26", "text": ">> I just I pinched him. You have to pinch"}, {"start": "00:06:25", "end": "00:06:27", "text": "him before you change the diaper, right?"}, {"start": "00:06:26", "end": "00:06:28", "text": ">> Oh, is that the hack?"}, {"start": "00:06:27", "end": "00:06:28", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:30", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:06:28", "end": "00:06:34", "text": ">> I will say, get him allergy tested. Our"}, {"start": "00:06:30", "end": "00:06:37", "text": "dear Zoe Love is severely allergic to"}, {"start": "00:06:34", "end": "00:06:38", "text": "eggs and she's getting an EpiPen for a"}, {"start": "00:06:37", "end": "00:06:40", "text": "baby."}, {"start": "00:06:38", "end": "00:06:41", "text": ">> That's scary."}, {"start": "00:06:40", "end": "00:06:41", "text": ">> Whoa."}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:42", "text": ">> Eggs."}, {"start": "00:06:41", "end": "00:06:43", "text": ">> Our dear Zoe."}, {"start": "00:06:42", "end": "00:06:44", "text": ">> Eggs are in so much."}, {"start": "00:06:43", "end": "00:06:45", "text": ">> I know."}, {"start": "00:06:44", "end": "00:06:47", "text": ">> That's wild."}, {"start": "00:06:45", "end": "00:06:49", "text": ">> And if Jamie eats eggs, then Zoe eats"}, {"start": "00:06:47", "end": "00:06:49", "text": "eggs."}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:51", "text": ">> Man."}, {"start": "00:06:49", "end": "00:06:53", "text": ">> Yeah. He's been he's been good. He just"}, {"start": "00:06:51", "end": "00:06:53", "text": "he was just on one."}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:55", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:06:53", "end": "00:06:57", "text": ">> Yeah. Uh"}, {"start": "00:06:55", "end": "00:06:59", "text": ">> being a baby. Excellent at all."}, {"start": "00:06:57", "end": "00:07:00", "text": ">> Nice."}, {"start": "00:06:59", "end": "00:07:01", "text": "Nice."}, {"start": "00:07:00", "end": "00:07:02", "text": ">> Sorry, I didn't mean to make a yolk"}, {"start": "00:07:01", "end": "00:07:04", "text": "right there."}, {"start": "00:07:02", "end": "00:07:05", "text": ">> I went I went to the I went to the"}, {"start": "00:07:04", "end": "00:07:06", "text": "doctor"}, {"start": "00:07:05", "end": "00:07:07", "text": ">> yesterday."}, {"start": "00:07:06", "end": "00:07:11", "text": ">> Cracked her up. What's up?"}, {"start": "00:07:07", "end": "00:07:12", "text": ">> Went to the doctor yesterday."}, {"start": "00:07:11", "end": "00:07:14", "text": ">> I can't stop."}, {"start": "00:07:12", "end": "00:07:15", "text": ">> This podcast is scrambled."}, {"start": "00:07:14", "end": "00:07:16", "text": ">> It's so good."}, {"start": "00:07:15", "end": "00:07:18", "text": ">> All right, everyone."}, {"start": "00:07:16", "end": "00:07:19", "text": ">> You went to the doctor yesterday."}, {"start": "00:07:18", "end": "00:07:20", "text": ">> I was trying to think of an egg bun."}, {"start": "00:07:19", "end": "00:07:22", "text": ">> Oh, god."}, {"start": "00:07:20", "end": "00:07:25", "text": ">> Um"}, {"start": "00:07:22", "end": "00:07:27", "text": "uh and I asked him, my doctor's so"}, {"start": "00:07:25", "end": "00:07:30", "text": "funny. He's just like so nonchalant."}, {"start": "00:07:27", "end": "00:07:32", "text": "He's like, \"Yeah, your cholesterol looks"}, {"start": "00:07:30", "end": "00:07:35", "text": "looking good.\" He's doing great. Any any"}, {"start": "00:07:32", "end": "00:07:37", "text": "questions? I'm like, \"I've never asked"}, {"start": "00:07:35", "end": "00:07:39", "text": "you,"}, {"start": "00:07:37", "end": "00:07:42", "text": "but I've been peeing so much ever since"}, {"start": "00:07:39", "end": "00:07:43", "text": "a child. I pee so much.\" Yeah. Like a"}, {"start": "00:07:42", "end": "00:07:44", "text": "crazy amount. He's like, \"Can you get up"}, {"start": "00:07:43", "end": "00:07:45", "text": "in the middle of the night to pee?\" I'm"}, {"start": "00:07:44", "end": "00:07:46", "text": "like, \"Every night?\""}, {"start": "00:07:45", "end": "00:07:47", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:07:46", "end": "00:07:48", "text": ">> He's like, \"Oh, yeah. Well, we can just"}, {"start": "00:07:47", "end": "00:07:50", "text": "write you a prescription. They can help"}, {"start": "00:07:48", "end": "00:07:51", "text": "that.\" Like, it's that it's been that"}, {"start": "00:07:50", "end": "00:07:52", "text": "easy."}, {"start": "00:07:51", "end": "00:07:54", "text": ">> What are you talking about? You've never"}, {"start": "00:07:52", "end": "00:07:55", "text": "talked to your doctor about this?"}, {"start": "00:07:54", "end": "00:07:57", "text": ">> No. I mean, because I went through the"}, {"start": "00:07:55", "end": "00:07:58", "text": "whole thing with the urologist way back"}, {"start": "00:07:57", "end": "00:07:59", "text": "in the day. They're like, \"Sorry, bud."}, {"start": "00:07:58", "end": "00:08:00", "text": "You're just going to pee a lot for the"}, {"start": "00:07:59", "end": "00:08:02", "text": "rest of your life.\""}, {"start": "00:08:00", "end": "00:08:04", "text": ">> That's the first step, isn't it?"}, {"start": "00:08:02", "end": "00:08:05", "text": ">> The first step. First step, SHA GBT."}, {"start": "00:08:04", "end": "00:08:06", "text": "Second step, doctor."}, {"start": "00:08:05", "end": "00:08:08", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:08:06", "end": "00:08:09", "text": ">> This is your own fault. You've been"}, {"start": "00:08:08", "end": "00:08:10", "text": "putting yourself through pain, bro."}, {"start": "00:08:09", "end": "00:08:12", "text": ">> I know. Well, we're going to see how it"}, {"start": "00:08:10", "end": "00:08:13", "text": "works. He's like, \"Side effects are dry"}, {"start": "00:08:12", "end": "00:08:14", "text": "mouth and constipation.\" I said, \"I'll"}, {"start": "00:08:13", "end": "00:08:17", "text": "take it.\""}, {"start": "00:08:14", "end": "00:08:17", "text": ">> Well, let's go. Sounds like two fixes,"}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:18", "text": "though."}, {"start": "00:08:17", "end": "00:08:20", "text": ">> We're going to do a little bit more"}, {"start": "00:08:18", "end": "00:08:21", "text": "Googling before we say yes."}, {"start": "00:08:20", "end": "00:08:24", "text": ">> So, you've had it ever since you've had"}, {"start": "00:08:21", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "a baby, correct? Yeah. Maybe it's"}, {"start": "00:08:24", "end": "00:08:27", "text": "stretched out urethra."}, {"start": "00:08:27", "end": "00:08:30", "text": ">> Uh, dude, we got guys, we got a lot of"}, {"start": "00:08:29", "end": "00:08:33", "text": "stuff to talk about today."}, {"start": "00:08:30", "end": "00:08:34", "text": ">> So much stuff teas."}, {"start": "00:08:33", "end": "00:08:35", "text": ">> Aliens,"}, {"start": "00:08:34", "end": "00:08:38", "text": ">> kamicazi dolphins,"}, {"start": "00:08:35", "end": "00:08:40", "text": ">> pastors talking about aliens."}, {"start": "00:08:38", "end": "00:08:40", "text": ">> Oo, I'm completely out of the loop on"}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:42", "text": "that. Yes."}, {"start": "00:08:40", "end": "00:08:44", "text": ">> Well, here's the thing, too, guys."}, {"start": "00:08:42", "end": "00:08:45", "text": ">> We're two weeks ahead. So, everything we"}, {"start": "00:08:44", "end": "00:08:46", "text": "talk about"}, {"start": "00:08:45", "end": "00:08:50", "text": ">> is right now."}, {"start": "00:08:46", "end": "00:08:52", "text": ">> Is right. It's happening right now."}, {"start": "00:08:50", "end": "00:08:54", "text": "So, we apologize and we know some of you"}, {"start": "00:08:52", "end": "00:08:57", "text": "don't like it, but it'll just be a"}, {"start": "00:08:54", "end": "00:08:59", "text": "little refresher. And it's like you're"}, {"start": "00:08:57", "end": "00:09:03", "text": "looking into a time machine and seeing"}, {"start": "00:08:59", "end": "00:09:04", "text": "us experience it now. And in two weeks,"}, {"start": "00:09:03", "end": "00:09:05", "text": "the world could be different."}, {"start": "00:09:04", "end": "00:09:07", "text": ">> You're looking at us now, you're like,"}, {"start": "00:09:05", "end": "00:09:09", "text": "you silly boys, you were completely off."}, {"start": "00:09:07", "end": "00:09:11", "text": ">> You get to be like a time traveler."}, {"start": "00:09:09", "end": "00:09:13", "text": ">> No, like I I think the problem is people"}, {"start": "00:09:11", "end": "00:09:15", "text": "are addicted to their phones and they're"}, {"start": "00:09:13", "end": "00:09:17", "text": "getting all of their information from a"}, {"start": "00:09:15", "end": "00:09:19", "text": "ton of different places. We're trying to"}, {"start": "00:09:17", "end": "00:09:22", "text": "provide a service so that you can come"}, {"start": "00:09:19", "end": "00:09:24", "text": "to us, get your news, and not be caught"}, {"start": "00:09:22", "end": "00:09:26", "text": "up in the hysteria, get it a couple"}, {"start": "00:09:24", "end": "00:09:27", "text": "weeks later, let it calm down,"}, {"start": "00:09:26", "end": "00:09:28", "text": ">> and it'll be"}, {"start": "00:09:27", "end": "00:09:30", "text": ">> digested. Digested."}, {"start": "00:09:28", "end": "00:09:31", "text": ">> Yeah. Wasn't those last two weeks pretty"}, {"start": "00:09:30", "end": "00:09:31", "text": "crazy, guys?"}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:33", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:09:31", "end": "00:09:33", "text": ">> Take a deep breath. You're with ninjas"}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:35", "text": "or butterflies."}, {"start": "00:09:33", "end": "00:09:36", "text": ">> All your friends are losing it. You feel"}, {"start": "00:09:35", "end": "00:09:38", "text": "fine."}, {"start": "00:09:36", "end": "00:09:42", "text": ">> Yeah. Speaking of losing it,"}, {"start": "00:09:38", "end": "00:09:42", "text": ">> you want to sh"}, {"start": "00:09:42", "end": "00:09:46", "text": ">> Hey, real quick."}, {"start": "00:09:43", "end": "00:09:48", "text": ">> Mime yell at Andy. Huh?"}, {"start": "00:09:46", "end": "00:09:51", "text": ">> MIME. YELLOW."}, {"start": "00:09:48", "end": "00:09:53", "text": ">> THAT'S not a mime. That's not a mime."}, {"start": "00:09:51", "end": "00:09:55", "text": "Mime. That would be because you have to"}, {"start": "00:09:53", "end": "00:09:57", "text": "really."}, {"start": "00:09:55", "end": "00:09:59", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah. That's Andy content."}, {"start": "00:09:57", "end": "00:10:01", "text": ">> Show them"}, {"start": "00:09:59", "end": "00:10:02", "text": "silly."}, {"start": "00:10:01", "end": "00:10:05", "text": "All right. There we go."}, {"start": "00:10:02", "end": "00:10:07", "text": ">> Song time. Song time."}, {"start": "00:10:05", "end": "00:10:08", "text": ">> Why are you taking pictures?"}, {"start": "00:10:07", "end": "00:10:09", "text": ">> Why not?"}, {"start": "00:10:08", "end": "00:10:10", "text": ">> Social media."}, {"start": "00:10:09", "end": "00:10:12", "text": ">> Oh, you know,"}, {"start": "00:10:10", "end": "00:10:15", "text": ">> we're a threeman team here. We ain't got"}, {"start": "00:10:12", "end": "00:10:16", "text": "like some some interns in the back."}, {"start": "00:10:15", "end": "00:10:18", "text": ">> No, we're four men. She's going to take"}, {"start": "00:10:16", "end": "00:10:19", "text": "pictures during the song."}, {"start": "00:10:18", "end": "00:10:20", "text": ">> Cool. I can do that."}, {"start": "00:10:19", "end": "00:10:21", "text": ">> There you go."}, {"start": "00:10:20", "end": "00:10:22", "text": ">> Trust me."}, {"start": "00:10:21", "end": "00:10:24", "text": ">> Trust me."}, {"start": "00:10:22", "end": "00:10:27", "text": ">> Trust me."}, {"start": "00:10:24", "end": "00:10:30", "text": ">> Drops it immediately."}, {"start": "00:10:27", "end": "00:10:30", "text": ">> All right."}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:35", "text": ">> It's a long song."}, {"start": "00:10:33", "end": "00:10:36", "text": ">> When you're done with that, you can just"}, {"start": "00:10:35", "end": "00:10:40", "text": "set it in the corner."}, {"start": "00:10:36", "end": "00:10:40", "text": ">> Set it on the food."}, {"start": "00:10:42", "end": "00:10:49", "text": "It's 900 a.m. and we're doing our"}, {"start": "00:10:45", "end": "00:10:51", "text": "podcast. We're here to sing you a song,"}, {"start": "00:10:49", "end": "00:10:55", "text": "but something feels off. I'm not really"}, {"start": "00:10:51", "end": "00:10:57", "text": "sure, but singing right now feels wrong."}, {"start": "00:10:55", "end": "00:11:00", "text": "We need something good. And we need"}, {"start": "00:10:57", "end": "00:11:01", "text": "something better. Something that feels"}, {"start": "00:11:00", "end": "00:11:04", "text": "trueer."}, {"start": "00:11:01", "end": "00:11:06", "text": "So, I guess we'll just jump right into"}, {"start": "00:11:04", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "it. Today's question sent in by a"}, {"start": "00:11:06", "end": "00:11:09", "text": "viewer."}, {"start": "00:11:10", "end": "00:11:12", "text": "You have a seat."}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:15", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:11:12", "end": "00:11:19", "text": ">> Why don't you go have a seat?"}, {"start": "00:11:15", "end": "00:11:19", "text": ">> Put down the camera."}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:22", "text": ">> What's going on?"}, {"start": "00:11:20", "end": "00:11:23", "text": ">> Today's question sent in by a viewer."}, {"start": "00:11:22", "end": "00:11:26", "text": "Gosh,"}, {"start": "00:11:23", "end": "00:11:28", "text": ">> Lily, is being famous hard?"}, {"start": "00:11:26", "end": "00:11:30", "text": ">> Um,"}, {"start": "00:11:28", "end": "00:11:31", "text": "I can imagine for famous people it has"}, {"start": "00:11:30", "end": "00:11:33", "text": "it"}, {"start": "00:11:31", "end": "00:11:36", "text": ">> it's a yes or no. We know you know how"}, {"start": "00:11:33", "end": "00:11:37", "text": "this goes. Is being famous hard?"}, {"start": "00:11:36", "end": "00:11:39", "text": "for famous people. Yes."}, {"start": "00:11:37", "end": "00:11:41", "text": ">> Is famous or no?"}, {"start": "00:11:39", "end": "00:11:44", "text": ">> Is famous?"}, {"start": "00:11:41", "end": "00:11:45", "text": ">> Don't laugh, please."}, {"start": "00:11:44", "end": "00:11:46", "text": ">> Please stop."}, {"start": "00:11:45", "end": "00:11:48", "text": ">> Is being famous hard?"}, {"start": "00:11:46", "end": "00:11:49", "text": ">> Is being famous hard? Yes or no? Li."}, {"start": "00:11:48", "end": "00:11:51", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:11:49", "end": "00:11:53", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:11:51", "end": "00:11:56", "text": ">> Oh, money weird."}, {"start": "00:11:53", "end": "00:11:58", "text": ">> So, you think you're famous? Huh? Seems"}, {"start": "00:11:56", "end": "00:12:00", "text": "kind of pretentious"}, {"start": "00:11:58", "end": "00:12:02", "text": "that you would just say that right out"}, {"start": "00:12:00", "end": "00:12:04", "text": "the gate. Like just Yeah, it's hard."}, {"start": "00:12:02", "end": "00:12:06", "text": ">> I think you focus on your answer. What"}, {"start": "00:12:04", "end": "00:12:09", "text": "about you? Being famous is hard, Lil."}, {"start": "00:12:06", "end": "00:12:11", "text": "What's hard about it?"}, {"start": "00:12:09", "end": "00:12:12", "text": ">> For those who are famous,"}, {"start": "00:12:11", "end": "00:12:13", "text": ">> you just said"}, {"start": "00:12:12", "end": "00:12:14", "text": ">> you were famous."}, {"start": "00:12:13", "end": "00:12:16", "text": ">> We asked you the question. Is being"}, {"start": "00:12:14", "end": "00:12:17", "text": "famous hard? You said yes."}, {"start": "00:12:16", "end": "00:12:19", "text": ">> You didn't hesitate."}, {"start": "00:12:17", "end": "00:12:21", "text": ">> There's no hesitation."}, {"start": "00:12:19", "end": "00:12:22", "text": ">> You didn't say um You didn't try to"}, {"start": "00:12:21", "end": "00:12:23", "text": "weasle your way out of the question. You"}, {"start": "00:12:22", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "said yes."}, {"start": "00:12:23", "end": "00:12:25", "text": ">> Do you really think of yourself that"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:25", "text": "way?"}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:27", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "00:12:25", "end": "00:12:29", "text": ">> Oh, look at her putting her shades on."}, {"start": "00:12:27", "end": "00:12:31", "text": ">> Yeah. Miss Miss Famous, you got to hide"}, {"start": "00:12:29", "end": "00:12:32", "text": "hide from the paparazzi, I guess."}, {"start": "00:12:31", "end": "00:12:34", "text": ">> Miss Hollywood over here."}, {"start": "00:12:32", "end": "00:12:34", "text": ">> Yeah. What kind of person wears glasses"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:36", "text": "inside?"}, {"start": "00:12:34", "end": "00:12:38", "text": ">> As soon as she walks in here, she puts"}, {"start": "00:12:36", "end": "00:12:39", "text": "on a jacket that's not even hers. We"}, {"start": "00:12:38", "end": "00:12:41", "text": "told her, \"Please don't wear that.\" She"}, {"start": "00:12:39", "end": "00:12:42", "text": "grabs it anyway. Says, \"This is mine. I"}, {"start": "00:12:41", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "don't care what you say.\" Puts on her"}, {"start": "00:12:42", "end": "00:12:43", "text": "glasses."}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:45", "text": ">> Oh my goodness."}, {"start": "00:12:43", "end": "00:12:47", "text": ">> Steals Andrew's camera."}, {"start": "00:12:45", "end": "00:12:48", "text": ">> She told I told her it was too loud for"}, {"start": "00:12:47", "end": "00:12:50", "text": "the podcast and she was like, \"It'll be"}, {"start": "00:12:48", "end": "00:12:51", "text": "fine. Fix it and post.\""}, {"start": "00:12:50", "end": "00:12:53", "text": ">> That's sick."}, {"start": "00:12:51", "end": "00:12:53", "text": ">> She said, \"That's not my job. That's not"}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:54", "text": "my prop.\""}, {"start": "00:12:53", "end": "00:12:55", "text": ">> I know."}, {"start": "00:12:54", "end": "00:12:56", "text": ">> And I'm pretty sure there's a racial"}, {"start": "00:12:55", "end": "00:12:58", "text": "slur in there."}, {"start": "00:12:56", "end": "00:12:58", "text": ">> Well, I couldn't tell if that's what she"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:01", "text": "was doing, but"}, {"start": "00:12:58", "end": "00:13:04", "text": ">> our goal is to not be famous. Our goal"}, {"start": "00:13:01", "end": "00:13:05", "text": "is to just have fun. Spread the love of"}, {"start": "00:13:04", "end": "00:13:06", "text": "Jesus."}, {"start": "00:13:05", "end": "00:13:09", "text": ">> Make him famous."}, {"start": "00:13:06", "end": "00:13:10", "text": ">> Make him famous. Jesus Christ increase"}, {"start": "00:13:09", "end": "00:13:11", "text": "decrease."}, {"start": "00:13:10", "end": "00:13:12", "text": ">> Yes, I know."}, {"start": "00:13:11", "end": "00:13:12", "text": ">> As long as you're up there with them,"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:14", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "00:13:12", "end": "00:13:17", "text": ">> Why is it so hard to be famous?"}, {"start": "00:13:14", "end": "00:13:19", "text": ">> I didn't I wasn't relating it to myself."}, {"start": "00:13:17", "end": "00:13:20", "text": ">> You said yes. We asked you, is it hard"}, {"start": "00:13:19", "end": "00:13:21", "text": "being famous? You said yes. That's"}, {"start": "00:13:20", "end": "00:13:25", "text": "exactly what you did."}, {"start": "00:13:21", "end": "00:13:27", "text": ">> I'm being empathetic to famous people."}, {"start": "00:13:25", "end": "00:13:28", "text": ">> That's it."}, {"start": "00:13:27", "end": "00:13:29", "text": ">> I don't know. That is it."}, {"start": "00:13:28", "end": "00:13:30", "text": ">> Would you ever say that you're"}, {"start": "00:13:29", "end": "00:13:31", "text": "empathetic to yourself?"}, {"start": "00:13:30", "end": "00:13:33", "text": "Yeah, I got"}, {"start": "00:13:31", "end": "00:13:34", "text": ">> Okay, so then you just put right there."}, {"start": "00:13:33", "end": "00:13:36", "text": "That's what exactly what you just said."}, {"start": "00:13:34", "end": "00:13:38", "text": ">> All right, guys. Well, I guess you heard"}, {"start": "00:13:36", "end": "00:13:39", "text": "her here first. I don't know what's"}, {"start": "00:13:38", "end": "00:13:40", "text": "happening."}, {"start": "00:13:39", "end": "00:13:42", "text": ">> Is too good for us. Too good for you."}, {"start": "00:13:40", "end": "00:13:43", "text": ">> She I'm pretty sure she's going to go"}, {"start": "00:13:42", "end": "00:13:44", "text": "start her own podcast."}, {"start": "00:13:43", "end": "00:13:46", "text": ">> No,"}, {"start": "00:13:44", "end": "00:13:48", "text": ">> that's what she's The rumors are saying."}, {"start": "00:13:46", "end": "00:13:50", "text": ">> Well, guys, I guess the next couple"}, {"start": "00:13:48", "end": "00:13:51", "text": "episodes you'll know if she's going to"}, {"start": "00:13:50", "end": "00:13:53", "text": "be a part of this podcast or not."}, {"start": "00:13:51", "end": "00:13:56", "text": ">> I guess so."}, {"start": "00:13:53", "end": "00:13:56", "text": ">> Welcome to the show."}, {"start": "00:13:58", "end": "00:14:01", "text": ">> Did I say ninja?"}, {"start": "00:14:00", "end": "00:14:04", "text": "I meant butterfly."}, {"start": "00:14:01", "end": "00:14:06", "text": ">> The butterfly is no doubt one of the"}, {"start": "00:14:04", "end": "00:14:08", "text": "most"}, {"start": "00:14:06", "end": "00:14:12", "text": "empty your mind."}, {"start": "00:14:08", "end": "00:14:12", "text": ">> You were martial arts."}, {"start": "00:14:16", "end": "00:14:19", "text": ">> The funny thing is I might not be a part"}, {"start": "00:14:17", "end": "00:14:20", "text": "of the next few episodes."}, {"start": "00:14:19", "end": "00:14:21", "text": ">> That's the joke, Lil."}, {"start": "00:14:20", "end": "00:14:22", "text": ">> I see. I see."}, {"start": "00:14:21", "end": "00:14:24", "text": ">> And then we should pretend we should"}, {"start": "00:14:22", "end": "00:14:27", "text": "make another podcast."}, {"start": "00:14:24", "end": "00:14:29", "text": ">> Oh, that's so funny."}, {"start": "00:14:27", "end": "00:14:30", "text": "Maybe one day I would do another"}, {"start": "00:14:29", "end": "00:14:31", "text": "podcast, but I would do it about mom"}, {"start": "00:14:30", "end": "00:14:32", "text": "stuff and lady stuff."}, {"start": "00:14:31", "end": "00:14:36", "text": ">> Ew."}, {"start": "00:14:32", "end": "00:14:37", "text": ">> And gossip stuff and Ew, gross. And"}, {"start": "00:14:36", "end": "00:14:38", "text": "movies, gossip."}, {"start": "00:14:37", "end": "00:14:40", "text": ">> You guys need to do another show, too."}, {"start": "00:14:38", "end": "00:14:41", "text": "For real. I've been on Josh about making"}, {"start": "00:14:40", "end": "00:14:42", "text": "a kids show."}, {"start": "00:14:41", "end": "00:14:44", "text": ">> We'll do it."}, {"start": "00:14:42", "end": "00:14:45", "text": ">> Would you guys like that if we did a"}, {"start": "00:14:44", "end": "00:14:47", "text": "kids show?"}, {"start": "00:14:45", "end": "00:14:50", "text": ">> A lot of people, we used to do a thing"}, {"start": "00:14:47", "end": "00:14:54", "text": "for uh it was grow. It was a Grow"}, {"start": "00:14:50", "end": "00:14:56", "text": "curriculum and I did uh did my my Carl"}, {"start": "00:14:54", "end": "00:14:58", "text": "character. A lot of kids loved it. So,"}, {"start": "00:14:56", "end": "00:15:00", "text": "we're thinking of doing like a"}, {"start": "00:14:58", "end": "00:15:02", "text": ">> like a kids Carl podcast. It' be like a"}, {"start": "00:15:00", "end": "00:15:04", "text": "15 minute episode thing."}, {"start": "00:15:02", "end": "00:15:08", "text": ">> I literally did the Bible um Bible class"}, {"start": "00:15:04", "end": "00:15:11", "text": "last week at my girls's co-op and they"}, {"start": "00:15:08", "end": "00:15:13", "text": "and they watch Grow TV and they freaked"}, {"start": "00:15:11", "end": "00:15:14", "text": "out when you called. They freaked out"}, {"start": "00:15:13", "end": "00:15:15", "text": "when I showed up."}, {"start": "00:15:14", "end": "00:15:17", "text": ">> They're very very silent."}, {"start": "00:15:15", "end": "00:15:18", "text": ">> I mean, yeah. I mean, that's what"}, {"start": "00:15:17", "end": "00:15:19", "text": "happens most of the time. They were"}, {"start": "00:15:18", "end": "00:15:20", "text": "excited though. They asked a ton of"}, {"start": "00:15:19", "end": "00:15:22", "text": "questions."}, {"start": "00:15:20", "end": "00:15:22", "text": ">> Um and"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:26", "text": ">> what happened?"}, {"start": "00:15:22", "end": "00:15:28", "text": ">> I don't know. He just left. It's okay."}, {"start": "00:15:26", "end": "00:15:30", "text": "Well, he'll come back. He always comes"}, {"start": "00:15:28", "end": "00:15:31", "text": "back, right? What are you looking at"}, {"start": "00:15:30", "end": "00:15:32", "text": "your phone for?"}, {"start": "00:15:31", "end": "00:15:34", "text": ">> I got a text. I wondered if it was him"}, {"start": "00:15:32", "end": "00:15:36", "text": "saying, \"Emergency, emergency.\""}, {"start": "00:15:34", "end": "00:15:39", "text": ">> I doubt he would text you"}, {"start": "00:15:36", "end": "00:15:40", "text": ">> in our Ninja Clan chat, not just me."}, {"start": "00:15:39", "end": "00:15:41", "text": ">> There's no way he would text you. You're"}, {"start": "00:15:40", "end": "00:15:44", "text": "too famous."}, {"start": "00:15:41", "end": "00:15:47", "text": ">> Talking about this kid show, I foresee"}, {"start": "00:15:44", "end": "00:15:50", "text": "it being very silly. But we could do"}, {"start": "00:15:47", "end": "00:15:52", "text": "something like a Bible verse. Maybe we"}, {"start": "00:15:50", "end": "00:15:54", "text": "talk to an actual teacher like your mom"}, {"start": "00:15:52", "end": "00:15:55", "text": "or something and get ideas about what to"}, {"start": "00:15:54", "end": "00:15:58", "text": "say on the show"}, {"start": "00:15:55", "end": "00:16:00", "text": ">> and then maybe we do like a periodic"}, {"start": "00:15:58", "end": "00:16:02", "text": "table segment"}, {"start": "00:16:00", "end": "00:16:03", "text": ">> where you guys where you guys go through"}, {"start": "00:16:02", "end": "00:16:05", "text": "all the elements of the periodic table"}, {"start": "00:16:03", "end": "00:16:06", "text": "each episode you cover one"}, {"start": "00:16:05", "end": "00:16:07", "text": ">> but they're all wrong."}, {"start": "00:16:06", "end": "00:16:08", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:16:07", "end": "00:16:10", "text": ">> And but there's props and so it's like"}, {"start": "00:16:08", "end": "00:16:11", "text": "here's uranium and it's like Josh's"}, {"start": "00:16:10", "end": "00:16:13", "text": "hands melt off"}, {"start": "00:16:11", "end": "00:16:15", "text": ">> and it like turn into a skeleton"}, {"start": "00:16:13", "end": "00:16:17", "text": ">> and it's just green slime or something."}, {"start": "00:16:15", "end": "00:16:19", "text": "Just very silly."}, {"start": "00:16:17", "end": "00:16:21", "text": ">> Yeah. When you touch uranium, you see"}, {"start": "00:16:19", "end": "00:16:22", "text": "the future."}, {"start": "00:16:21", "end": "00:16:24", "text": ">> Um,"}, {"start": "00:16:22", "end": "00:16:24", "text": ">> wait, would you let your kids consume"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:26", "text": "that?"}, {"start": "00:16:24", "end": "00:16:28", "text": ">> Yeah. I don't know what happened in the"}, {"start": "00:16:26", "end": "00:16:29", "text": "parking lot. I got a message that my"}, {"start": "00:16:28", "end": "00:16:31", "text": "alarm was going off. Went out there,"}, {"start": "00:16:29", "end": "00:16:32", "text": "turned mine off, and someone else's was"}, {"start": "00:16:31", "end": "00:16:34", "text": "going off, too."}, {"start": "00:16:32", "end": "00:16:35", "text": ">> So,"}, {"start": "00:16:34", "end": "00:16:37", "text": "earthquake."}, {"start": "00:16:35", "end": "00:16:38", "text": ">> Speaking of earthquakes,"}, {"start": "00:16:37", "end": "00:16:41", "text": ">> all the earthquakes"}, {"start": "00:16:38", "end": "00:16:44", "text": ">> there was, did you see? I mean, the a"}, {"start": "00:16:41", "end": "00:16:48", "text": "couple weeks ago there was like four or"}, {"start": "00:16:44", "end": "00:16:49", "text": "seven earthquakes all around Area 51."}, {"start": "00:16:48", "end": "00:16:51", "text": ">> Really? No, I didn't see that."}, {"start": "00:16:49", "end": "00:16:53", "text": ">> That's interesting."}, {"start": "00:16:51", "end": "00:16:54", "text": ">> They got to be doing stuff underground"}, {"start": "00:16:53", "end": "00:16:55", "text": "for"}, {"start": "00:16:54", "end": "00:16:57", "text": ">> sure. For sure."}, {"start": "00:16:55", "end": "00:17:00", "text": ">> So, our neighbor just had fiber optic"}, {"start": "00:16:57", "end": "00:17:01", "text": "put in and uh Paige said, I mean, you"}, {"start": "00:17:00", "end": "00:17:03", "text": "know, they're just digging like a little"}, {"start": "00:17:01", "end": "00:17:05", "text": "tunnel, you know, with that boring"}, {"start": "00:17:03", "end": "00:17:07", "text": "machine, but Paige said the whole house"}, {"start": "00:17:05", "end": "00:17:09", "text": "was just like violent. Like she was"}, {"start": "00:17:07", "end": "00:17:11", "text": "like, \"It sounds like a car is driving"}, {"start": "00:17:09", "end": "00:17:12", "text": "under our house right now.\" But you"}, {"start": "00:17:11", "end": "00:17:14", "text": "think about, you know, we're talking a"}, {"start": "00:17:12", "end": "00:17:15", "text": ">> build an underground city."}, {"start": "00:17:14", "end": "00:17:16", "text": ">> Yeah. The difference. Yeah. It's going"}, {"start": "00:17:15", "end": "00:17:18", "text": "to shake everything up."}, {"start": "00:17:16", "end": "00:17:19", "text": ">> Dude, your house is turning 100 years"}, {"start": "00:17:18", "end": "00:17:19", "text": "old next year."}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:20", "text": ">> I know."}, {"start": "00:17:19", "end": "00:17:21", "text": ">> You should throw a party."}, {"start": "00:17:20", "end": "00:17:22", "text": ">> Centennial."}, {"start": "00:17:21", "end": "00:17:24", "text": ">> I should."}, {"start": "00:17:22", "end": "00:17:26", "text": ">> Dude, what if we did like the Bilbo"}, {"start": "00:17:24", "end": "00:17:27", "text": "thing like actually in the field?"}, {"start": "00:17:26", "end": "00:17:29", "text": ">> Oh, that would be so fun."}, {"start": "00:17:27", "end": "00:17:31", "text": ">> The Shire party."}, {"start": "00:17:29", "end": "00:17:32", "text": ">> Show up in character."}, {"start": "00:17:31", "end": "00:17:32", "text": ">> Who you going to be?"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:36", "text": ">> Me?"}, {"start": "00:17:32", "end": "00:17:36", "text": ">> Mhm. Um"}, {"start": "00:17:36", "end": "00:17:39", "text": "um"}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:41", "text": "Gandalf."}, {"start": "00:17:39", "end": "00:17:41", "text": ">> Yeah, of course."}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:44", "text": ">> Chucks."}, {"start": "00:17:41", "end": "00:17:44", "text": ">> Yeah, I'll be an elf. I'll be a female"}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:46", "text": "elf."}, {"start": "00:17:44", "end": "00:17:47", "text": ">> Yeah, I"}, {"start": "00:17:46", "end": "00:17:49", "text": "dibs."}, {"start": "00:17:47", "end": "00:17:51", "text": ">> Too bad you're literally said it first."}, {"start": "00:17:49", "end": "00:17:53", "text": ">> Aragon. Yeah, my eyes are going to close"}, {"start": "00:17:51", "end": "00:17:55", "text": "together like"}, {"start": "00:17:53", "end": "00:17:56", "text": ">> I don't She says that and I don't"}, {"start": "00:17:55", "end": "00:17:56", "text": "understand what"}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:17:58", "text": ">> Aragon."}, {"start": "00:17:56", "end": "00:17:59", "text": ">> Vgo Morrison. Morgus."}, {"start": "00:17:58", "end": "00:18:00", "text": ">> Aragorn."}, {"start": "00:17:59", "end": "00:18:03", "text": ">> Aragon."}, {"start": "00:18:00", "end": "00:18:05", "text": ">> Vgo Morgan or Moren. I don't know."}, {"start": "00:18:03", "end": "00:18:05", "text": ">> He's very handsome, but he's um closed"}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:06", "text": "together."}, {"start": "00:18:05", "end": "00:18:07", "text": ">> His eyes are closed together. I don't"}, {"start": "00:18:06", "end": "00:18:09", "text": "agree with that."}, {"start": "00:18:07", "end": "00:18:10", "text": ">> I've thought in my whole life."}, {"start": "00:18:09", "end": "00:18:11", "text": ">> Who in your family looks like Sid the"}, {"start": "00:18:10", "end": "00:18:13", "text": "sloth"}, {"start": "00:18:11", "end": "00:18:14", "text": ">> to make you think that that's normal?"}, {"start": "00:18:13", "end": "00:18:15", "text": ">> Wait,"}, {"start": "00:18:14", "end": "00:18:15", "text": ">> he looks pretty normal."}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:17", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:18:15", "end": "00:18:19", "text": ">> he looks pretty normal. Not saying that"}, {"start": "00:18:17", "end": "00:18:19", "text": "people aren't normal that have eyes"}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:22", "text": "close together."}, {"start": "00:18:19", "end": "00:18:23", "text": ">> I'm not saying he's ugly."}, {"start": "00:18:22", "end": "00:18:25", "text": ">> That's not what I'm saying."}, {"start": "00:18:23", "end": "00:18:26", "text": ">> I'm saying are just very close together."}, {"start": "00:18:25", "end": "00:18:28", "text": ">> I think his eyes are normal, but I think"}, {"start": "00:18:26", "end": "00:18:30", "text": "he's just got a lot of space on the"}, {"start": "00:18:28", "end": "00:18:32", "text": "sides that make it look like they're"}, {"start": "00:18:30", "end": "00:18:33", "text": "closer. He got them cheekbones."}, {"start": "00:18:32", "end": "00:18:35", "text": ">> A lot of people have like the square"}, {"start": "00:18:33", "end": "00:18:37", "text": "head where the eyes are like the edge of"}, {"start": "00:18:35", "end": "00:18:38", "text": "their face. I think he just has more"}, {"start": "00:18:37", "end": "00:18:40", "text": "room."}, {"start": "00:18:38", "end": "00:18:41", "text": ">> It also doesn't matter at all."}, {"start": "00:18:40", "end": "00:18:42", "text": ">> Apparently it does. Apparently it does."}, {"start": "00:18:41", "end": "00:18:45", "text": ">> Why did you bring it up?"}, {"start": "00:18:42", "end": "00:18:47", "text": ">> Was it Mary or Pippen that he kissed in"}, {"start": "00:18:45", "end": "00:18:48", "text": "one of the uh like the celebratory"}, {"start": "00:18:47", "end": "00:18:51", "text": "scenes, but it wasn't scripted. Have you"}, {"start": "00:18:48", "end": "00:18:52", "text": "seen that clip? No. I'll pull it. Okay."}, {"start": "00:18:51", "end": "00:18:53", "text": "Remind me to go back to that. I'll pull"}, {"start": "00:18:52", "end": "00:18:54", "text": "it up while we're talking."}, {"start": "00:18:53", "end": "00:18:56", "text": ">> Imagine if you were like when you first"}, {"start": "00:18:54", "end": "00:18:57", "text": "met Lily or like on your wedding day,"}, {"start": "00:18:56", "end": "00:18:59", "text": "you were like, \"By the way, your eyes"}, {"start": "00:18:57", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "are like really close together.\" But"}, {"start": "00:18:59", "end": "00:19:00", "text": "you're like, \"But it doesn't matter at"}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:01", "text": "all.\""}, {"start": "00:19:00", "end": "00:19:03", "text": ">> He said some crazy."}, {"start": "00:19:01", "end": "00:19:03", "text": ">> That's a crazy thing to say."}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:04", "text": ">> Me?"}, {"start": "00:19:03", "end": "00:19:05", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:19:04", "end": "00:19:07", "text": ">> Say it."}, {"start": "00:19:05", "end": "00:19:08", "text": ">> I'm not."}, {"start": "00:19:07", "end": "00:19:10", "text": ">> You can't do that. You got to say"}, {"start": "00:19:08", "end": "00:19:10", "text": "something. You got to give us something."}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:12", "text": ">> What example?"}, {"start": "00:19:10", "end": "00:19:13", "text": ">> Come on."}, {"start": "00:19:12", "end": "00:19:15", "text": ">> I can't say it."}, {"start": "00:19:13", "end": "00:19:15", "text": ">> He wants to know. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:18", "text": ">> Later."}, {"start": "00:19:15", "end": "00:19:20", "text": ">> Okay. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:19:18", "end": "00:19:21", "text": ">> I'm afraid."}, {"start": "00:19:20", "end": "00:19:23", "text": ">> Whenever I bring it up to you, you're"}, {"start": "00:19:21", "end": "00:19:24", "text": "always like, I did not say that. And I'm"}, {"start": "00:19:23", "end": "00:19:25", "text": "like, you don't think I would remember"}, {"start": "00:19:24", "end": "00:19:26", "text": "you saying that?"}, {"start": "00:19:25", "end": "00:19:28", "text": ">> You might have misremembered."}, {"start": "00:19:26", "end": "00:19:29", "text": ">> I did not remember a lot of things."}, {"start": "00:19:28", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "Is there a possibility you could"}, {"start": "00:19:29", "end": "00:19:31", "text": "misremember something?"}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:32", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "00:19:31", "end": "00:19:33", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "00:19:32", "end": "00:19:35", "text": ">> Not in this circumstance."}, {"start": "00:19:33", "end": "00:19:36", "text": ">> How do you How can you be fully"}, {"start": "00:19:35", "end": "00:19:38", "text": "confident in anything?"}, {"start": "00:19:36", "end": "00:19:40", "text": ">> When we are fully When we are new"}, {"start": "00:19:38", "end": "00:19:40", "text": "dating, you're you're retaining"}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:42", "text": "everything."}, {"start": "00:19:40", "end": "00:19:42", "text": ">> You dated nude. What is that? New"}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:44", "text": "dating."}, {"start": "00:19:42", "end": "00:19:44", "text": ">> Dating. New. You're d You're new at"}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:46", "text": "dating."}, {"start": "00:19:44", "end": "00:19:49", "text": ">> Got it."}, {"start": "00:19:46", "end": "00:19:49", "text": ">> Speaking of new dating."}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:51", "text": ">> New dating."}, {"start": "00:19:49", "end": "00:19:52", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:19:51", "end": "00:19:55", "text": ">> Let's get right into it."}, {"start": "00:19:52", "end": "00:19:58", "text": ">> What are we getting into, pal?"}, {"start": "00:19:55", "end": "00:20:00", "text": "recently,"}, {"start": "00:19:58", "end": "00:20:03", "text": "and when this comes out, there might be"}, {"start": "00:20:00", "end": "00:20:05", "text": "some weird stuff happening, but recently"}, {"start": "00:20:03", "end": "00:20:08", "text": "when we're filming this,"}, {"start": "00:20:05", "end": "00:20:09", "text": "there's apparently a group of pastors."}, {"start": "00:20:08", "end": "00:20:10", "text": ">> Oh, boy."}, {"start": "00:20:09", "end": "00:20:12", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:20:10", "end": "00:20:13", "text": ">> Famous pastors, which I don't know any"}, {"start": "00:20:12", "end": "00:20:14", "text": "of them truly, but"}, {"start": "00:20:13", "end": "00:20:17", "text": ">> yeah. Do you have the names?"}, {"start": "00:20:14", "end": "00:20:19", "text": ">> Um, one of them is"}, {"start": "00:20:17", "end": "00:20:20", "text": ">> This explains the Blurry Creatures post"}, {"start": "00:20:19", "end": "00:20:21", "text": "that I saw."}, {"start": "00:20:20", "end": "00:20:23", "text": ">> One of them is Perry Stone."}, {"start": "00:20:21", "end": "00:20:25", "text": ">> Okay. Okay. Which apparently he's like a"}, {"start": "00:20:23", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "Yeah, he's a These are all like TV"}, {"start": "00:20:25", "end": "00:20:26", "text": "pastors."}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:29", "text": ">> Got it."}, {"start": "00:20:26", "end": "00:20:30", "text": ">> This guy's like super end times"}, {"start": "00:20:29", "end": "00:20:37", "text": ">> very stone."}, {"start": "00:20:30", "end": "00:20:38", "text": ">> Uh another guy, his name is uh W Joseph"}, {"start": "00:20:37", "end": "00:20:39", "text": "Z."}, {"start": "00:20:38", "end": "00:20:41", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:20:39", "end": "00:20:45", "text": "And then I don't know who the third guy"}, {"start": "00:20:41", "end": "00:20:47", "text": "is, but apparently these pastors"}, {"start": "00:20:45", "end": "00:20:50", "text": "were called by some government officials"}, {"start": "00:20:47", "end": "00:20:53", "text": "in the intelligence agencies. One of"}, {"start": "00:20:50", "end": "00:20:56", "text": "them being a senator, Senator"}, {"start": "00:20:53", "end": "00:20:58", "text": "uh or sorry, Congressman uh Eric Burlson"}, {"start": "00:20:56", "end": "00:21:01", "text": "Burlson."}, {"start": "00:20:58", "end": "00:21:03", "text": "And they were called and said there"}, {"start": "00:21:01", "end": "00:21:05", "text": "needs to be a meeting."}, {"start": "00:21:03", "end": "00:21:08", "text": ">> And so they flew to a location. I think"}, {"start": "00:21:05", "end": "00:21:09", "text": "they flew to like Colorado or something."}, {"start": "00:21:08", "end": "00:21:09", "text": "They said, \"Don't bring your cell"}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:11", "text": "phones.\""}, {"start": "00:21:09", "end": "00:21:13", "text": ">> Oh gosh. Typical."}, {"start": "00:21:11", "end": "00:21:15", "text": ">> We have a a meeting that we need to talk"}, {"start": "00:21:13", "end": "00:21:17", "text": "with you guys. This whole thing. Let me"}, {"start": "00:21:15", "end": "00:21:19", "text": "just start off. It's weird."}, {"start": "00:21:17", "end": "00:21:20", "text": ">> It's fishy."}, {"start": "00:21:19", "end": "00:21:22", "text": ">> It stinks of fishiness."}, {"start": "00:21:20", "end": "00:21:24", "text": ">> Like in what way? Like I don't know. We"}, {"start": "00:21:22", "end": "00:21:25", "text": "We still haven't given us any"}, {"start": "00:21:24", "end": "00:21:26", "text": "information."}, {"start": "00:21:25", "end": "00:21:28", "text": "Like what are we talking about?"}, {"start": "00:21:26", "end": "00:21:31", "text": ">> Because I'm just so I don't want to"}, {"start": "00:21:28", "end": "00:21:34", "text": "present it like guys this isah. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:21:31", "end": "00:21:35", "text": ">> I'm like this is weird. Yeah. Like"}, {"start": "00:21:34", "end": "00:21:36", "text": ">> anyways, these a bunch of pastors came"}, {"start": "00:21:35", "end": "00:21:39", "text": "together."}, {"start": "00:21:36", "end": "00:21:42", "text": ">> Okay. And they were sat in a room. This"}, {"start": "00:21:39", "end": "00:21:44", "text": "congressman came out or a video chat or"}, {"start": "00:21:42", "end": "00:21:45", "text": "something. And he's like, \"Is everyone"}, {"start": "00:21:44", "end": "00:21:46", "text": "sitting down?\""}, {"start": "00:21:45", "end": "00:21:47", "text": ">> Oh gosh."}, {"start": "00:21:46", "end": "00:21:50", "text": ">> He said, \"Are all the pastors in the"}, {"start": "00:21:47", "end": "00:21:51", "text": "room?\""}, {"start": "00:21:50", "end": "00:21:52", "text": ">> Yes, congressman, we're all here."}, {"start": "00:21:51", "end": "00:21:56", "text": ">> Yes, sir."}, {"start": "00:21:52", "end": "00:21:59", "text": ">> Um, and he said, \"The disclosure that is"}, {"start": "00:21:56", "end": "00:22:02", "text": "about to come out with these aliens,"}, {"start": "00:21:59", "end": "00:22:04", "text": ">> they are going to confirm non-human"}, {"start": "00:22:02", "end": "00:22:08", "text": "intelligence."}, {"start": "00:22:04", "end": "00:22:10", "text": "They're going to basically present it"}, {"start": "00:22:08", "end": "00:22:13", "text": "that there's an alien race that has been"}, {"start": "00:22:10", "end": "00:22:14", "text": "living here a long time and in fact they"}, {"start": "00:22:13", "end": "00:22:16", "text": "are our creators."}, {"start": "00:22:14", "end": "00:22:18", "text": ">> Oh gosh."}, {"start": "00:22:16", "end": "00:22:21", "text": ">> The kind of knocky kind of stuff."}, {"start": "00:22:18", "end": "00:22:22", "text": ">> No, like reptilian type of things."}, {"start": "00:22:21", "end": "00:22:23", "text": ">> Oh, okay."}, {"start": "00:22:22", "end": "00:22:25", "text": ">> They're are creators. They created the"}, {"start": "00:22:23", "end": "00:22:26", "text": "Bible. They created Jesus Christ."}, {"start": "00:22:25", "end": "00:22:27", "text": ">> Oh, no."}, {"start": "00:22:26", "end": "00:22:29", "text": ">> Yikes."}, {"start": "00:22:27", "end": "00:22:32", "text": ">> Your goal or not your goal. What I'm"}, {"start": "00:22:29", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "telling you to do is you need to prepare"}, {"start": "00:22:32", "end": "00:22:35", "text": "your congregations"}, {"start": "00:22:35", "end": "00:22:41", "text": "for this disclosure."}, {"start": "00:22:38", "end": "00:22:43", "text": ">> How any pointers on how?"}, {"start": "00:22:41", "end": "00:22:46", "text": ">> Basically saying like I think they're"}, {"start": "00:22:43", "end": "00:22:47", "text": "hinting at that this is a deception."}, {"start": "00:22:46", "end": "00:22:50", "text": ">> Oh, I see"}, {"start": "00:22:47", "end": "00:22:52", "text": ">> kind of thing. Um and so there's three"}, {"start": "00:22:50", "end": "00:22:53", "text": "pastors that I got videos of them"}, {"start": "00:22:52", "end": "00:22:54", "text": "talking about it."}, {"start": "00:22:53", "end": "00:22:56", "text": ">> I would love to hear Oh, I've only seen"}, {"start": "00:22:54", "end": "00:22:58", "text": "the one."}, {"start": "00:22:56", "end": "00:22:59", "text": ">> Which the one of the guys heads close or"}, {"start": "00:22:58", "end": "00:23:00", "text": "the guy with the background?"}, {"start": "00:22:59", "end": "00:23:02", "text": ">> Background."}, {"start": "00:23:00", "end": "00:23:04", "text": ">> Yeah, that's um the peak guy or whatever"}, {"start": "00:23:02", "end": "00:23:05", "text": "his name is. Uh Perry Stone."}, {"start": "00:23:04", "end": "00:23:07", "text": ">> Thank you for describing that in a way"}, {"start": "00:23:05", "end": "00:23:08", "text": "where you knew there's no way I"}, {"start": "00:23:07", "end": "00:23:11", "text": "remembered names."}, {"start": "00:23:08", "end": "00:23:12", "text": ">> I don't remember names either. Um let me"}, {"start": "00:23:11", "end": "00:23:13", "text": "see that. Let me see that."}, {"start": "00:23:12", "end": "00:23:14", "text": ">> It's all plugged in. Hang on."}, {"start": "00:23:13", "end": "00:23:16", "text": ">> It is plugged in. I plugged it in."}, {"start": "00:23:14", "end": "00:23:18", "text": ">> Wait. So tell me just like like really"}, {"start": "00:23:16", "end": "00:23:21", "text": "nitpick what you said."}, {"start": "00:23:18", "end": "00:23:23", "text": ">> Yeah. So this guy's like, \"Prepare your"}, {"start": "00:23:21", "end": "00:23:24", "text": "congregation to understand that this is"}, {"start": "00:23:23", "end": "00:23:26", "text": "going to be a deception.\" Or he's like,"}, {"start": "00:23:24", "end": "00:23:28", "text": "\"Prepare your congregation to learn news"}, {"start": "00:23:26", "end": "00:23:29", "text": "that like their whole entire faith is"}, {"start": "00:23:28", "end": "00:23:31", "text": "being dismantled.\""}, {"start": "00:23:29", "end": "00:23:33", "text": ">> The deception, I think. Okay. Because a"}, {"start": "00:23:31", "end": "00:23:35", "text": "lot of these they're saying that the the"}, {"start": "00:23:33", "end": "00:23:38", "text": "people in the intelligence, which it's I"}, {"start": "00:23:35", "end": "00:23:40", "text": "it seems to be part of that that group."}, {"start": "00:23:38", "end": "00:23:44", "text": "I for the life of me, I can't remember"}, {"start": "00:23:40", "end": "00:23:45", "text": "their name. Um Tim Alber Tim Alberino"}, {"start": "00:23:44", "end": "00:23:46", "text": "talks a lot about them."}, {"start": "00:23:45", "end": "00:23:48", "text": ">> The 12 or something."}, {"start": "00:23:46", "end": "00:23:49", "text": ">> No, it's not the 12. It's um"}, {"start": "00:23:48", "end": "00:23:49", "text": ">> describe it to me. I'll I'll do"}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:52", "text": "something."}, {"start": "00:23:49", "end": "00:23:53", "text": ">> It's basically like um an organization"}, {"start": "00:23:52", "end": "00:23:54", "text": "within the government."}, {"start": "00:23:53", "end": "00:23:57", "text": ">> The Clintons?"}, {"start": "00:23:54", "end": "00:24:00", "text": ">> No. No. That they're Christians."}, {"start": "00:23:57", "end": "00:24:03", "text": "Um it's like a group of Christian"}, {"start": "00:24:00", "end": "00:24:04", "text": "politicians that don't want the alien"}, {"start": "00:24:03", "end": "00:24:06", "text": "disclosure to come out."}, {"start": "00:24:04", "end": "00:24:06", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:24:06", "end": "00:24:08", "text": ">> Um"}, {"start": "00:24:06", "end": "00:24:10", "text": ">> this is wild"}, {"start": "00:24:08", "end": "00:24:10", "text": ">> because um Tim Burchett"}, {"start": "00:24:10", "end": "00:24:13", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:24:10", "end": "00:24:14", "text": ">> Yeah. He's like when he was brought this"}, {"start": "00:24:13", "end": "00:24:16", "text": "news, they're like, \"We can't we can't"}, {"start": "00:24:14", "end": "00:24:18", "text": "disclose this stuff because it's going"}, {"start": "00:24:16", "end": "00:24:20", "text": "to ruin people's faith.\""}, {"start": "00:24:18", "end": "00:24:21", "text": ">> And he's like, \"No, it won't.\""}, {"start": "00:24:20", "end": "00:24:24", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:24:21", "end": "00:24:25", "text": ">> And um weird stuff. But here's one of"}, {"start": "00:24:24", "end": "00:24:28", "text": "them. And hopefully this doesn't get"}, {"start": "00:24:25", "end": "00:24:30", "text": "flagged, Andrew, if it does"}, {"start": "00:24:28", "end": "00:24:32", "text": ">> because it has music under it."}, {"start": "00:24:30", "end": "00:24:34", "text": ">> So we'll play this and I'll play the"}, {"start": "00:24:32", "end": "00:24:35", "text": "other ones, too. But just listen to this"}, {"start": "00:24:34", "end": "00:24:36", "text": "one first. We might have to cut this one"}, {"start": "00:24:35", "end": "00:24:38", "text": "out or mute."}, {"start": "00:24:36", "end": "00:24:39", "text": ">> We We just add music on top of it."}, {"start": "00:24:38", "end": "00:24:41", "text": ">> Yeah. only a handful of pastors and"}, {"start": "00:24:39", "end": "00:24:42", "text": "invited to come to a private meeting"}, {"start": "00:24:41", "end": "00:24:44", "text": "with a group of men who are connected"}, {"start": "00:24:42", "end": "00:24:46", "text": "with the intelligence world that are"}, {"start": "00:24:44", "end": "00:24:49", "text": "believers but are still have very high"}, {"start": "00:24:46", "end": "00:24:51", "text": "security clearance. These are legit true"}, {"start": "00:24:49", "end": "00:24:53", "text": "men of God that are still connected to"}, {"start": "00:24:51", "end": "00:24:54", "text": "Washington and even this current"}, {"start": "00:24:53", "end": "00:24:57", "text": "administration and all branches of"}, {"start": "00:24:54", "end": "00:24:59", "text": "military. And they literally told us we"}, {"start": "00:24:57", "end": "00:25:01", "text": "had a sitting congressman, a very"}, {"start": "00:24:59", "end": "00:25:03", "text": "well-known congressman from Missouri. He"}, {"start": "00:25:01", "end": "00:25:05", "text": "was he called into that meeting as well"}, {"start": "00:25:03", "end": "00:25:08", "text": "that that was just for pastors. And this"}, {"start": "00:25:05", "end": "00:25:09", "text": "is what he said on speakerphone. this"}, {"start": "00:25:08", "end": "00:25:12", "text": "sitting powerful member of Congress"}, {"start": "00:25:09", "end": "00:25:13", "text": "said, \"Are the pastors listening to me?\""}, {"start": "00:25:12", "end": "00:25:15", "text": "I'm getting chills right now because"}, {"start": "00:25:13", "end": "00:25:17", "text": "this happened to me. He said, \"Are the"}, {"start": "00:25:15", "end": "00:25:19", "text": "pastors in the room listening to me?\""}, {"start": "00:25:17", "end": "00:25:22", "text": "And I said, \"Yes, sir. We are here.\" And"}, {"start": "00:25:19", "end": "00:25:26", "text": "he said, \"Listen to me. Go and tell the"}, {"start": "00:25:22", "end": "00:25:28", "text": "church they are not ready for what is"}, {"start": "00:25:26", "end": "00:25:31", "text": "coming. The narrative that is coming,"}, {"start": "00:25:28", "end": "00:25:34", "text": "what they are going to say is going to"}, {"start": "00:25:31", "end": "00:25:36", "text": "be like nothing you can even imagine."}, {"start": "00:25:34", "end": "00:25:38", "text": "They are preparing to tell us that they"}, {"start": "00:25:36", "end": "00:25:41", "text": "are from another dimension. That they"}, {"start": "00:25:38", "end": "00:25:43", "text": "are our creator and that these beings,"}, {"start": "00:25:41", "end": "00:25:45", "text": "these aliens, whatever you want to call"}, {"start": "00:25:43", "end": "00:25:47", "text": "them, they were the ones that seated us"}, {"start": "00:25:45", "end": "00:25:48", "text": "here. There is no such thing as God."}, {"start": "00:25:47", "end": "00:25:50", "text": "Jesus was invented by them. The Bible"}, {"start": "00:25:48", "end": "00:25:53", "text": "was invented by them. And begin to just"}, {"start": "00:25:50", "end": "00:25:54", "text": "say, \"Listen, prepare the people for"}, {"start": "00:25:53", "end": "00:25:58", "text": "what is coming because they're not"}, {"start": "00:25:54", "end": "00:26:00", "text": "ready.\" But he loved us so much, he made"}, {"start": "00:25:58", "end": "00:26:02", "text": "sure that he told us exactly the"}, {"start": "00:26:00", "end": "00:26:04", "text": "blueprint to study. He said, \"Study the"}, {"start": "00:26:02", "end": "00:26:06", "text": "days of Noah.\" And if you can understand"}, {"start": "00:26:04", "end": "00:26:07", "text": "how Noah responded, that's how you're"}, {"start": "00:26:06", "end": "00:26:09", "text": "going to have to respond. And I believe"}, {"start": "00:26:07", "end": "00:26:10", "text": "what God is doing in the body of Christ"}, {"start": "00:26:09", "end": "00:26:12", "text": "right now is getting us ready because"}, {"start": "00:26:10", "end": "00:26:14", "text": "the world is going to have a lot of"}, {"start": "00:26:12", "end": "00:26:16", "text": "questions. The question for you is, are"}, {"start": "00:26:14", "end": "00:26:18", "text": "you going to be able to answer it?"}, {"start": "00:26:16", "end": "00:26:22", "text": ">> Can you understand the weirdness of"}, {"start": "00:26:18", "end": "00:26:24", "text": "this? Like all this, why? Why?"}, {"start": "00:26:22", "end": "00:26:28", "text": "This just seems too obvious."}, {"start": "00:26:24", "end": "00:26:30", "text": ">> Yeah, it seems like it seems way too"}, {"start": "00:26:28", "end": "00:26:34", "text": "obvious. Like you don't this kind of"}, {"start": "00:26:30", "end": "00:26:35", "text": "stuff. I don't feel like I could be so"}, {"start": "00:26:34", "end": "00:26:36", "text": "wrong, but I feel like if there's going"}, {"start": "00:26:35", "end": "00:26:38", "text": "to be a deception, it's a true"}, {"start": "00:26:36", "end": "00:26:40", "text": "deception."}, {"start": "00:26:38", "end": "00:26:42", "text": ">> And it's not like, guys, there's a"}, {"start": "00:26:40", "end": "00:26:44", "text": "deception about to happen, so get ready"}, {"start": "00:26:42", "end": "00:26:45", "text": "cuz then now this is viral stuff. It's"}, {"start": "00:26:44", "end": "00:26:45", "text": "like"}, {"start": "00:26:45", "end": "00:26:47", "text": ">> that. Exactly."}, {"start": "00:26:45", "end": "00:26:49", "text": ">> But what if it's a deception?"}, {"start": "00:26:47", "end": "00:26:51", "text": ">> That's what I'm saying. Like these guys"}, {"start": "00:26:49", "end": "00:26:53", "text": "this is the one-two punch"}, {"start": "00:26:51", "end": "00:26:55", "text": ">> because why would the government bring"}, {"start": "00:26:53", "end": "00:26:56", "text": "in these pastors knowing that they're"}, {"start": "00:26:55", "end": "00:26:56", "text": "going to go out?"}, {"start": "00:26:56", "end": "00:26:57", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:26:56", "end": "00:27:00", "text": ">> There's something weird about it."}, {"start": "00:26:57", "end": "00:27:02", "text": "Discernment doesn't exist in the church"}, {"start": "00:27:00", "end": "00:27:05", "text": "like it should. The fact that certain"}, {"start": "00:27:02", "end": "00:27:07", "text": "politicians can say, \"I am of the"}, {"start": "00:27:05", "end": "00:27:10", "text": "faith,\" and then act the way they do,"}, {"start": "00:27:07", "end": "00:27:12", "text": "and be embraced by a large percentage of"}, {"start": "00:27:10", "end": "00:27:13", "text": "Christian culture. Just kind of even and"}, {"start": "00:27:12", "end": "00:27:16", "text": "not I'm not just talking boomers and"}, {"start": "00:27:13", "end": "00:27:18", "text": "Facebook. Like there's Gen Z, Gen Alpha,"}, {"start": "00:27:16", "end": "00:27:20", "text": "and millennials too with some of like"}, {"start": "00:27:18", "end": "00:27:22", "text": "musicians and stuff like stuff we can"}, {"start": "00:27:20", "end": "00:27:23", "text": "clearly see is fake, but like they're"}, {"start": "00:27:22", "end": "00:27:25", "text": "not catching on. So when you do things"}, {"start": "00:27:23", "end": "00:27:26", "text": "like this, you get pastors together who"}, {"start": "00:27:25", "end": "00:27:28", "text": "are making claims. And I don't know,"}, {"start": "00:27:26", "end": "00:27:30", "text": "this isn't an accusation against them,"}, {"start": "00:27:28", "end": "00:27:31", "text": "but it's it's like let's just have a"}, {"start": "00:27:30", "end": "00:27:33", "text": "little discretion, a little discernment,"}, {"start": "00:27:31", "end": "00:27:34", "text": "and kind of like filter through some of"}, {"start": "00:27:33", "end": "00:27:36", "text": "this stuff cuz it doesn't feel right."}, {"start": "00:27:34", "end": "00:27:38", "text": ">> No. Also, I want to say that these"}, {"start": "00:27:36", "end": "00:27:41", "text": "people in the government, whoever they"}, {"start": "00:27:38", "end": "00:27:44", "text": "are, this congressman, if they are like"}, {"start": "00:27:41", "end": "00:27:48", "text": "true followers of Christ and they knew"}, {"start": "00:27:44", "end": "00:27:50", "text": "of this horrendous evil deception that's"}, {"start": "00:27:48", "end": "00:27:50", "text": "about to happen, say everything then."}, {"start": "00:27:50", "end": "00:27:52", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:27:50", "end": "00:27:53", "text": ">> You don't be like, \"Guys, something's"}, {"start": "00:27:52", "end": "00:27:53", "text": "about to come out.\""}, {"start": "00:27:53", "end": "00:27:55", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:27:53", "end": "00:27:56", "text": ">> So, just get ready. No, you be like,"}, {"start": "00:27:55", "end": "00:27:58", "text": "\"This is what's coming out."}, {"start": "00:27:56", "end": "00:27:58", "text": ">> This is what they're going to do.\""}, {"start": "00:27:58", "end": "00:28:00", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:27:58", "end": "00:28:02", "text": ">> Because the kingdom of God matters way"}, {"start": "00:28:00", "end": "00:28:03", "text": "more than me going to prison."}, {"start": "00:28:02", "end": "00:28:03", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:28:03", "end": "00:28:04", "text": ">> You know,"}, {"start": "00:28:03", "end": "00:28:05", "text": ">> absolutely."}, {"start": "00:28:04", "end": "00:28:07", "text": ">> And the qualifications that put them in"}, {"start": "00:28:05", "end": "00:28:09", "text": "the room to these are the pastors that"}, {"start": "00:28:07", "end": "00:28:10", "text": "need to be worn to be ready to prepare"}, {"start": "00:28:09", "end": "00:28:11", "text": "their congregations. If they have the"}, {"start": "00:28:10", "end": "00:28:14", "text": "qualifications to get in the room, they"}, {"start": "00:28:11", "end": "00:28:15", "text": "should already be like theologically and"}, {"start": "00:28:14", "end": "00:28:17", "text": "biblically equipped to handle something"}, {"start": "00:28:15", "end": "00:28:19", "text": "that comes out as discerning pastors."}, {"start": "00:28:17", "end": "00:28:21", "text": "Like, you don't need to be warned"}, {"start": "00:28:19", "end": "00:28:23", "text": "deception's coming. When deception"}, {"start": "00:28:21", "end": "00:28:25", "text": "happens, as a shepherd, you should be"}, {"start": "00:28:23", "end": "00:28:27", "text": "like, \"Hey, there's a wolf.\" I don't"}, {"start": "00:28:25", "end": "00:28:29", "text": "need, you know, someone from the wolf"}, {"start": "00:28:27", "end": "00:28:30", "text": "pack to come tell me the wolves are"}, {"start": "00:28:29", "end": "00:28:31", "text": "coming. I can see it."}, {"start": "00:28:30", "end": "00:28:32", "text": ">> Yeah. And I don't want to bash these"}, {"start": "00:28:31", "end": "00:28:33", "text": "pastors cuz I don't know who they are."}, {"start": "00:28:32", "end": "00:28:34", "text": "And"}, {"start": "00:28:33", "end": "00:28:36", "text": ">> that that's my question. Why these"}, {"start": "00:28:34", "end": "00:28:38", "text": "pastors, right?"}, {"start": "00:28:36", "end": "00:28:39", "text": ">> Like what's the I mean, obviously they"}, {"start": "00:28:38", "end": "00:28:41", "text": "have a following. They've, you know,"}, {"start": "00:28:39", "end": "00:28:42", "text": "they teach and people probably love"}, {"start": "00:28:41", "end": "00:28:44", "text": "them. I don't know anything about them,"}, {"start": "00:28:42", "end": "00:28:47", "text": "so I can't say anything about them. But"}, {"start": "00:28:44", "end": "00:28:48", "text": "it's what's their audience? What's their"}, {"start": "00:28:47", "end": "00:28:50", "text": "demographic?"}, {"start": "00:28:48", "end": "00:28:53", "text": "It seems like they're being set up. And"}, {"start": "00:28:50", "end": "00:28:54", "text": "this I say that because this other"}, {"start": "00:28:53", "end": "00:28:56", "text": "pastor guy"}, {"start": "00:28:54", "end": "00:28:57", "text": ">> who's he has like a talk show or podcast"}, {"start": "00:28:56", "end": "00:28:59", "text": "or something."}, {"start": "00:28:57", "end": "00:29:04", "text": ">> He said they gathered the pastors. They"}, {"start": "00:28:59", "end": "00:29:07", "text": "flew out from Tennessee to um I think it"}, {"start": "00:29:04", "end": "00:29:10", "text": "was Utah. Let me see. They flew out from"}, {"start": "00:29:07", "end": "00:29:15", "text": "Boom. Tennessee to Colorado Springs."}, {"start": "00:29:10", "end": "00:29:16", "text": "Um, and what was weird is that on their"}, {"start": "00:29:15", "end": "00:29:19", "text": "it was either on their flight there or"}, {"start": "00:29:16", "end": "00:29:21", "text": "back, all these pastors,"}, {"start": "00:29:19", "end": "00:29:23", "text": "they just so happened to say, \"Look out"}, {"start": "00:29:21", "end": "00:29:25", "text": "the window."}, {"start": "00:29:23", "end": "00:29:25", "text": "There's six UFOs.\""}, {"start": "00:29:25", "end": "00:29:26", "text": ">> No."}, {"start": "00:29:25", "end": "00:29:30", "text": ">> Shut the front door."}, {"start": "00:29:26", "end": "00:29:31", "text": ">> And so he shows the video of these UFOs"}, {"start": "00:29:30", "end": "00:29:33", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:29:31", "end": "00:29:35", "text": ">> these orbs"}, {"start": "00:29:33", "end": "00:29:35", "text": ">> being all wacky outside his window. I'm"}, {"start": "00:29:35", "end": "00:29:37", "text": "like,"}, {"start": "00:29:35", "end": "00:29:40", "text": ">> that's really suspect. This seems like,"}, {"start": "00:29:37", "end": "00:29:43", "text": "okay, if you're just going to play, if"}, {"start": "00:29:40", "end": "00:29:46", "text": "you're going to"}, {"start": "00:29:43", "end": "00:29:47", "text": "convince these guys of anything,"}, {"start": "00:29:46", "end": "00:29:48", "text": ">> make it all secretive. Don't bring your"}, {"start": "00:29:47", "end": "00:29:48", "text": "phone."}, {"start": "00:29:48", "end": "00:29:50", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:29:48", "end": "00:29:51", "text": ">> Everyone get on this plane. I We got an"}, {"start": "00:29:50", "end": "00:29:52", "text": "important meeting to talk about."}, {"start": "00:29:51", "end": "00:29:53", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:29:52", "end": "00:29:55", "text": ">> Also, here's these UFOs."}, {"start": "00:29:53", "end": "00:29:58", "text": ">> We talk about this this disclosure"}, {"start": "00:29:55", "end": "00:29:59", "text": "coming out. This great deception."}, {"start": "00:29:58", "end": "00:30:01", "text": "Prepare your congregations. All right,"}, {"start": "00:29:59", "end": "00:30:04", "text": "guys. You go home and just prepare your"}, {"start": "00:30:01", "end": "00:30:06", "text": "congregations on your flight back. What?"}, {"start": "00:30:04", "end": "00:30:07", "text": "There's six UFOs outside the window."}, {"start": "00:30:06", "end": "00:30:08", "text": ">> Yeah, that's weird."}, {"start": "00:30:07", "end": "00:30:10", "text": ">> That's that for them it's like that's"}, {"start": "00:30:08", "end": "00:30:12", "text": "sealing the deal. Like if I was just"}, {"start": "00:30:10", "end": "00:30:14", "text": "like caught up in it like because it"}, {"start": "00:30:12", "end": "00:30:16", "text": "seems like it was a fastmoving thing and"}, {"start": "00:30:14", "end": "00:30:17", "text": "then you were told this stuff by a"}, {"start": "00:30:16", "end": "00:30:19", "text": "congressman and these people in the"}, {"start": "00:30:17", "end": "00:30:20", "text": "intelligence agency"}, {"start": "00:30:19", "end": "00:30:21", "text": ">> flying back home and I see UFOs, I'd be"}, {"start": "00:30:20", "end": "00:30:22", "text": "like"}, {"start": "00:30:21", "end": "00:30:23", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:30:22", "end": "00:30:24", "text": ">> Like you're really that's like a nail in"}, {"start": "00:30:23", "end": "00:30:25", "text": "the coffin."}, {"start": "00:30:24", "end": "00:30:27", "text": ">> Totally. And you look at that guy's"}, {"start": "00:30:25", "end": "00:30:30", "text": "reaction and I'm not once again don't"}, {"start": "00:30:27", "end": "00:30:32", "text": "know him so I'm not judging him but"}, {"start": "00:30:30", "end": "00:30:33", "text": ">> he emphasized how many times that this"}, {"start": "00:30:32", "end": "00:30:36", "text": "dude was a powerful dude in the the pol"}, {"start": "00:30:33", "end": "00:30:37", "text": "the world of politics right like he made"}, {"start": "00:30:36", "end": "00:30:40", "text": "sure that was an emphasis"}, {"start": "00:30:37", "end": "00:30:42", "text": ">> if I'm trusting anybody"}, {"start": "00:30:40", "end": "00:30:45", "text": "on that list is a politician that's"}, {"start": "00:30:42", "end": "00:30:46", "text": "powerful like so it's like I mean you"}, {"start": "00:30:45", "end": "00:30:48", "text": "have to take that with a grain of salt"}, {"start": "00:30:46", "end": "00:30:50", "text": "you could say you're a Christian but if"}, {"start": "00:30:48", "end": "00:30:53", "text": "you're a politician a successful"}, {"start": "00:30:50", "end": "00:30:54", "text": "powerful one I don't I mean I obviously"}, {"start": "00:30:53", "end": "00:30:56", "text": "I'm not in that world but I don't know"}, {"start": "00:30:54", "end": "00:30:58", "text": "where the fruit is"}, {"start": "00:30:56", "end": "00:31:00", "text": ">> before we judge them too hard too. Like"}, {"start": "00:30:58", "end": "00:31:02", "text": "if I got if I was pastoring and got"}, {"start": "00:31:00", "end": "00:31:04", "text": "invited and like felt like it was off,"}, {"start": "00:31:02", "end": "00:31:06", "text": "it's like know your enemy. Like I'd"}, {"start": "00:31:04", "end": "00:31:08", "text": "still go. So just cuz someone"}, {"start": "00:31:06", "end": "00:31:10", "text": ">> just cuz someone like if if it all does"}, {"start": "00:31:08", "end": "00:31:12", "text": "start looking fishy and you're like dang"}, {"start": "00:31:10", "end": "00:31:14", "text": "this dude I respected went doesn't mean"}, {"start": "00:31:12", "end": "00:31:16", "text": "that dude is bought in. The dude might"}, {"start": "00:31:14", "end": "00:31:18", "text": "just be sussing something out. You know,"}, {"start": "00:31:16", "end": "00:31:20", "text": ">> I'm not judging these passers at all. I"}, {"start": "00:31:18", "end": "00:31:23", "text": "really think they're potentially part of"}, {"start": "00:31:20", "end": "00:31:24", "text": "a a another layer of deception. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:31:23", "end": "00:31:27", "text": "it's never that simple."}, {"start": "00:31:24", "end": "00:31:30", "text": ">> But what in my brain, what how does that"}, {"start": "00:31:27", "end": "00:31:33", "text": "even work? Like what is why would they"}, {"start": "00:31:30", "end": "00:31:34", "text": "tell them this? Like is there another"}, {"start": "00:31:33", "end": "00:31:37", "text": "layer? Like are they going to be like is"}, {"start": "00:31:34", "end": "00:31:39", "text": "it the layer of that this is going to"}, {"start": "00:31:37", "end": "00:31:40", "text": "happen and they're going to fake like"}, {"start": "00:31:39", "end": "00:31:42", "text": "Jesus coming back?"}, {"start": "00:31:40", "end": "00:31:44", "text": ">> And so then the people are like these"}, {"start": "00:31:42", "end": "00:31:45", "text": "are Oh, that's what it was. Who was it?"}, {"start": "00:31:44", "end": "00:31:48", "text": "Was it"}, {"start": "00:31:45", "end": "00:31:51", "text": ">> not Albert? There's somebody on"}, {"start": "00:31:48", "end": "00:31:55", "text": "blurry. I believe he was from Egypt or"}, {"start": "00:31:51", "end": "00:31:56", "text": "something. He talked about he believes"}, {"start": "00:31:55", "end": "00:31:59", "text": "that there's going they're going to"}, {"start": "00:31:56", "end": "00:32:00", "text": "basically stage"}, {"start": "00:31:59", "end": "00:32:03", "text": "like an alien invasion. So there's going"}, {"start": "00:32:00", "end": "00:32:06", "text": "to be bad guys, the bad aliens,"}, {"start": "00:32:03", "end": "00:32:08", "text": ">> and then they're going to stage the good"}, {"start": "00:32:06", "end": "00:32:10", "text": "aliens, which would be part of like"}, {"start": "00:32:08", "end": "00:32:11", "text": "Jesus and stuff. So could that be part"}, {"start": "00:32:10", "end": "00:32:13", "text": "of the deception? Like"}, {"start": "00:32:11", "end": "00:32:15", "text": ">> the bad aliens are the Democrats, right?"}, {"start": "00:32:13", "end": "00:32:15", "text": ">> They will they will register as"}, {"start": "00:32:15", "end": "00:32:18", "text": "Democrats."}, {"start": "00:32:15", "end": "00:32:18", "text": ">> Any liberal? Yeah. Yeah. Um"}, {"start": "00:32:18", "end": "00:32:20", "text": ">> um"}, {"start": "00:32:18", "end": "00:32:23", "text": ">> No, but could it be like because they"}, {"start": "00:32:20", "end": "00:32:25", "text": "could they stage a"}, {"start": "00:32:23", "end": "00:32:25", "text": "My brain is like running right now"}, {"start": "00:32:25", "end": "00:32:26", "text": "because"}, {"start": "00:32:25", "end": "00:32:28", "text": ">> I love this subject."}, {"start": "00:32:26", "end": "00:32:30", "text": ">> Well, because it reminds me of our"}, {"start": "00:32:28", "end": "00:32:31", "text": "interview that we had with Bart."}, {"start": "00:32:30", "end": "00:32:33", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:32:31", "end": "00:32:36", "text": ">> Coolest perspective, coolest"}, {"start": "00:32:33", "end": "00:32:37", "text": "conspiracy of his connection with these"}, {"start": "00:32:36", "end": "00:32:38", "text": "scientists going missing."}, {"start": "00:32:37", "end": "00:32:39", "text": ">> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:32:38", "end": "00:32:41", "text": ">> And he's like, \"What about the Malaysian"}, {"start": "00:32:39", "end": "00:32:42", "text": "flight that went missing years ago?\" Or"}, {"start": "00:32:41", "end": "00:32:44", "text": "like, \"What about it?\" He's like,"}, {"start": "00:32:42", "end": "00:32:45", "text": "\"There's what was it 20some scientists"}, {"start": "00:32:44", "end": "00:32:49", "text": "on it?\""}, {"start": "00:32:45", "end": "00:32:51", "text": ">> Yeah. And he said these scientists were"}, {"start": "00:32:49", "end": "00:32:52", "text": "worldrenowned for their holographic"}, {"start": "00:32:51", "end": "00:32:54", "text": "technology."}, {"start": "00:32:52", "end": "00:32:56", "text": ">> Yeah. Blue Book."}, {"start": "00:32:54", "end": "00:32:58", "text": ">> Yeah. Like a connection with Project"}, {"start": "00:32:56", "end": "00:33:00", "text": "Blue Book. Something like that. He's"}, {"start": "00:32:58", "end": "00:33:01", "text": "like he believes that the planes were"}, {"start": "00:33:00", "end": "00:33:02", "text": "swapped out."}, {"start": "00:33:01", "end": "00:33:04", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"start": "00:33:02", "end": "00:33:05", "text": ">> And that those scientists were brought"}, {"start": "00:33:04", "end": "00:33:05", "text": "back to the US."}, {"start": "00:33:05", "end": "00:33:07", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:33:05", "end": "00:33:10", "text": ">> And then you have all these So you got"}, {"start": "00:33:07", "end": "00:33:13", "text": "these holographic dudes and then you got"}, {"start": "00:33:10", "end": "00:33:14", "text": "these guys that are known in"}, {"start": "00:33:13", "end": "00:33:16", "text": ">> propulsion."}, {"start": "00:33:14", "end": "00:33:18", "text": "anti-gravity."}, {"start": "00:33:16", "end": "00:33:18", "text": ">> You could create a UFO."}, {"start": "00:33:18", "end": "00:33:20", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:33:18", "end": "00:33:22", "text": ">> And make it appear"}, {"start": "00:33:20", "end": "00:33:24", "text": ">> and make it appear."}, {"start": "00:33:22", "end": "00:33:26", "text": "And it's like"}, {"start": "00:33:24", "end": "00:33:28", "text": "it seems like it's setting the stage for"}, {"start": "00:33:26", "end": "00:33:30", "text": ">> And for fairness to him, he didn't say"}, {"start": "00:33:28", "end": "00:33:32", "text": "bring them back to the US. He just said"}, {"start": "00:33:30", "end": "00:33:33", "text": "they're collected and somewhere working"}, {"start": "00:33:32", "end": "00:33:34", "text": "on something."}, {"start": "00:33:33", "end": "00:33:35", "text": ">> I think he did say the US. Did he"}, {"start": "00:33:34", "end": "00:33:36", "text": "really?"}, {"start": "00:33:35", "end": "00:33:37", "text": ">> Yeah, I think I'm pretty sure. Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:33:36", "end": "00:33:38", "text": "that's what he was insinuating and I"}, {"start": "00:33:37", "end": "00:33:39", "text": "think he said"}, {"start": "00:33:38", "end": "00:33:42", "text": ">> I'm going to edit out my comment then."}, {"start": "00:33:39", "end": "00:33:44", "text": ">> Yeah. No, you're fine. Um Yeah, dude. I"}, {"start": "00:33:42", "end": "00:33:47", "text": "love this. This is great. And I and it's"}, {"start": "00:33:44", "end": "00:33:49", "text": "one of those things where if it is"}, {"start": "00:33:47", "end": "00:33:51", "text": "legit, you know, if it is a guy, I get"}, {"start": "00:33:49", "end": "00:33:52", "text": "the guy like saying, \"Hey, I can't say"}, {"start": "00:33:51", "end": "00:33:53", "text": "everything.\""}, {"start": "00:33:52", "end": "00:33:56", "text": ">> Yeah, me too. I"}, {"start": "00:33:53", "end": "00:33:58", "text": ">> But like he just be ready. And I'm like"}, {"start": "00:33:56", "end": "00:34:01", "text": "I I I appreciate that. Whatever. But I"}, {"start": "00:33:58", "end": "00:34:03", "text": "also like may and my mind goes he"}, {"start": "00:34:01", "end": "00:34:05", "text": "probably didn't disclose certain things"}, {"start": "00:34:03", "end": "00:34:06", "text": "because he doesn't know how it's"}, {"start": "00:34:05", "end": "00:34:08", "text": "actually going to come out cuz if he"}, {"start": "00:34:06", "end": "00:34:10", "text": "releases too much or thing that didn't"}, {"start": "00:34:08", "end": "00:34:12", "text": "happen like then it's like okay well now"}, {"start": "00:34:10", "end": "00:34:14", "text": "we can't even trust you. But once again,"}, {"start": "00:34:12", "end": "00:34:17", "text": "a politician is telling you this and you"}, {"start": "00:34:14", "end": "00:34:19", "text": "can't take it as truth, as gospel."}, {"start": "00:34:17", "end": "00:34:21", "text": ">> Why are they the gatekeepers of"}, {"start": "00:34:19", "end": "00:34:21", "text": ">> That's why I want to know why they got"}, {"start": "00:34:21", "end": "00:34:23", "text": "hit."}, {"start": "00:34:21", "end": "00:34:25", "text": ">> What's their target audience? Are they"}, {"start": "00:34:23", "end": "00:34:26", "text": "sold out? Are they I mean, I don't know"}, {"start": "00:34:25", "end": "00:34:28", "text": "if this guy's Republican, Democrat,"}, {"start": "00:34:26", "end": "00:34:30", "text": "whatever. If it's like a a party thing"}, {"start": "00:34:28", "end": "00:34:32", "text": "and so they're all sold out and they"}, {"start": "00:34:30", "end": "00:34:34", "text": "trust this guy and it's like I don't"}, {"start": "00:34:32", "end": "00:34:35", "text": "know. It's weird, man. It's very very"}, {"start": "00:34:34", "end": "00:34:36", "text": "strange."}, {"start": "00:34:35", "end": "00:34:38", "text": ">> But yeah, I was saying like why are"}, {"start": "00:34:36", "end": "00:34:39", "text": "politicians the gatekeepers of"}, {"start": "00:34:38", "end": "00:34:40", "text": ">> Okay. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:34:39", "end": "00:34:42", "text": ">> the unknown."}, {"start": "00:34:40", "end": "00:34:43", "text": ">> Mhm. Like"}, {"start": "00:34:42", "end": "00:34:44", "text": ">> that should already turn you off."}, {"start": "00:34:43", "end": "00:34:45", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:34:44", "end": "00:34:47", "text": ">> Like that that's what ticks me off. It's"}, {"start": "00:34:45", "end": "00:34:47", "text": "like why? Like who gives you the right"}, {"start": "00:34:47", "end": "00:34:50", "text": "to know all this"}, {"start": "00:34:47", "end": "00:34:52", "text": ">> history and look at all the false flags"}, {"start": "00:34:50", "end": "00:34:54", "text": "the United States and any other"}, {"start": "00:34:52", "end": "00:34:57", "text": "government like for that matter has done"}, {"start": "00:34:54", "end": "00:34:59", "text": ">> to deceive the people to sway them in a"}, {"start": "00:34:57", "end": "00:35:02", "text": "certain direction. And it's like so now"}, {"start": "00:34:59", "end": "00:35:04", "text": "they're the gatekeepers of an alien"}, {"start": "00:35:02", "end": "00:35:05", "text": "race. Oh, dude. But that's it. It makes"}, {"start": "00:35:04", "end": "00:35:07", "text": "perfect sense why they would be the ones"}, {"start": "00:35:05", "end": "00:35:09", "text": "because they can be not speaking for"}, {"start": "00:35:07", "end": "00:35:11", "text": "every politician, but they have the"}, {"start": "00:35:09", "end": "00:35:13", "text": "propensity to be dishonest, to withhold"}, {"start": "00:35:11", "end": "00:35:17", "text": "information. And I think it's all"}, {"start": "00:35:13", "end": "00:35:19", "text": "because they want to control us, you"}, {"start": "00:35:17", "end": "00:35:20", "text": "know? And that's why these scientists"}, {"start": "00:35:19", "end": "00:35:22", "text": "are being silenced because they're like,"}, {"start": "00:35:20", "end": "00:35:23", "text": "\"Let me tell you about it.\" And it's"}, {"start": "00:35:22", "end": "00:35:25", "text": "like, \"No, dude.\""}, {"start": "00:35:23", "end": "00:35:26", "text": ">> And controlling us could also look like"}, {"start": "00:35:25", "end": "00:35:29", "text": "chaos."}, {"start": "00:35:26", "end": "00:35:31", "text": ">> Yeah. I I will say to play devil's"}, {"start": "00:35:29", "end": "00:35:33", "text": "advocate, I could understand why as a"}, {"start": "00:35:31", "end": "00:35:35", "text": "believing Congress person, even if it"}, {"start": "00:35:33", "end": "00:35:37", "text": "was just like some information, like"}, {"start": "00:35:35", "end": "00:35:38", "text": "very little information, it's like"}, {"start": "00:35:37", "end": "00:35:41", "text": "things are coming out right now that"}, {"start": "00:35:38", "end": "00:35:43", "text": "could deceive the Christian population."}, {"start": "00:35:41", "end": "00:35:45", "text": "And so, be prepared and prepare your"}, {"start": "00:35:43", "end": "00:35:47", "text": "congregation so that they do not fall"}, {"start": "00:35:45", "end": "00:35:50", "text": "into these traps of aliens being our"}, {"start": "00:35:47", "end": "00:35:50", "text": "overlord. I could understand why they"}, {"start": "00:35:50", "end": "00:35:51", "text": "would want to do that."}, {"start": "00:35:50", "end": "00:35:53", "text": ">> But why those pastors?"}, {"start": "00:35:51", "end": "00:35:53", "text": ">> Why those pastors? I've never Maybe he's"}, {"start": "00:35:53", "end": "00:35:56", "text": "friends with them."}, {"start": "00:35:53", "end": "00:35:57", "text": ">> Why make That's the thing. But like then"}, {"start": "00:35:56", "end": "00:36:00", "text": "go have go sit at their church or"}, {"start": "00:35:57", "end": "00:36:02", "text": "something. Send a message out yourself"}, {"start": "00:36:00", "end": "00:36:04", "text": "to these people and don't let the"}, {"start": "00:36:02", "end": "00:36:04", "text": "pastors be the secondhand news kind of"}, {"start": "00:36:04", "end": "00:36:06", "text": "guy."}, {"start": "00:36:04", "end": "00:36:08", "text": ">> Yeah. Also a lot more doomy and"}, {"start": "00:36:06", "end": "00:36:10", "text": ">> gloomy. I don't know if it was that"}, {"start": "00:36:08", "end": "00:36:11", "text": "congressman that I mentioned. I think"}, {"start": "00:36:10", "end": "00:36:12", "text": "people are speculating that it was that"}, {"start": "00:36:11", "end": "00:36:14", "text": "congre."}, {"start": "00:36:12", "end": "00:36:16", "text": ">> So it wasn't disclosed. That makes sense"}, {"start": "00:36:14", "end": "00:36:17", "text": "why his name like if if he dropped his"}, {"start": "00:36:16", "end": "00:36:19", "text": "name that's crazy."}, {"start": "00:36:17", "end": "00:36:20", "text": ">> I would also be curious what"}, {"start": "00:36:19", "end": "00:36:22", "text": "denomination each of these pastors"}, {"start": "00:36:20", "end": "00:36:23", "text": "belong to. If it was one specific"}, {"start": "00:36:22", "end": "00:36:24", "text": "denomination."}, {"start": "00:36:23", "end": "00:36:25", "text": ">> I'm very curious. I mean, I'm going to"}, {"start": "00:36:24", "end": "00:36:27", "text": "have to go look. Um, I'm just going to"}, {"start": "00:36:25", "end": "00:36:28", "text": "look online at their sermons and stuff."}, {"start": "00:36:27", "end": "00:36:29", "text": ">> Mormon."}, {"start": "00:36:28", "end": "00:36:32", "text": ">> Whoa."}, {"start": "00:36:29", "end": "00:36:35", "text": ">> Wait, Bormans were right the whole time."}, {"start": "00:36:32", "end": "00:36:37", "text": ">> LDS actually stands for look the sky."}, {"start": "00:36:35", "end": "00:36:40", "text": ">> That's good."}, {"start": "00:36:37", "end": "00:36:40", "text": ">> Um, so yeah, I don't know, man. It's"}, {"start": "00:36:40", "end": "00:36:42", "text": "weird."}, {"start": "00:36:40", "end": "00:36:44", "text": ">> I think I think the government is smart"}, {"start": "00:36:42", "end": "00:36:46", "text": "enough to leak information kind of like"}, {"start": "00:36:44", "end": "00:36:48", "text": "it's like toxic relationship where like"}, {"start": "00:36:46", "end": "00:36:49", "text": "I'm going to tell you enough, but I know"}, {"start": "00:36:48", "end": "00:36:51", "text": "that I'm I'm not going to give you so"}, {"start": "00:36:49", "end": "00:36:53", "text": "much to where you're going to feel the"}, {"start": "00:36:51", "end": "00:36:55", "text": "need to keep the bridge open. It's like"}, {"start": "00:36:53", "end": "00:36:57", "text": "if I told you everything, you could make"}, {"start": "00:36:55", "end": "00:37:00", "text": "your assessment and see where it goes."}, {"start": "00:36:57", "end": "00:37:02", "text": "But it's like if you leak too much of"}, {"start": "00:37:00", "end": "00:37:04", "text": "what I've told you, you've lost your"}, {"start": "00:37:02", "end": "00:37:05", "text": "contact. So they can only trickle"}, {"start": "00:37:04", "end": "00:37:07", "text": "information out. But then it's like this"}, {"start": "00:37:05", "end": "00:37:09", "text": "toxic tap that's just dripping"}, {"start": "00:37:07", "end": "00:37:10", "text": "misinformation."}, {"start": "00:37:09", "end": "00:37:12", "text": ">> And it's also like like it's kind of"}, {"start": "00:37:10", "end": "00:37:14", "text": "like the vibe of like, hey, I can't wait"}, {"start": "00:37:12", "end": "00:37:16", "text": "for you to come over tonight because I"}, {"start": "00:37:14", "end": "00:37:19", "text": "have something crazy to tell you about"}, {"start": "00:37:16", "end": "00:37:20", "text": "Melissa and Xav Xavier."}, {"start": "00:37:19", "end": "00:37:21", "text": ">> And and then all day you're like, what"}, {"start": "00:37:20", "end": "00:37:23", "text": "could possibly be happening? and you're"}, {"start": "00:37:21", "end": "00:37:25", "text": "talking about all your friends. Like, so"}, {"start": "00:37:23", "end": "00:37:28", "text": "if he leaks out this tiny information,"}, {"start": "00:37:25", "end": "00:37:31", "text": "then it it leaves the pastors, it leaves"}, {"start": "00:37:28", "end": "00:37:32", "text": "us to just speculate and blow it out"}, {"start": "00:37:31", "end": "00:37:33", "text": "proportion and maybe they're read"}, {"start": "00:37:32", "end": "00:37:34", "text": "they're looking at that and saying,"}, {"start": "00:37:33", "end": "00:37:35", "text": "\"Okay, what are people looking at?\""}, {"start": "00:37:34", "end": "00:37:37", "text": ">> And we're playing into it, right?"}, {"start": "00:37:35", "end": "00:37:39", "text": ">> Absolutely."}, {"start": "00:37:37", "end": "00:37:39", "text": ">> It's just weird. I also would urge"}, {"start": "00:37:39", "end": "00:37:40", "text": "people,"}, {"start": "00:37:39", "end": "00:37:44", "text": ">> yeah,"}, {"start": "00:37:40", "end": "00:37:45", "text": ">> you should go I first go read scripture"}, {"start": "00:37:44", "end": "00:37:48", "text": "because that's that's the number one."}, {"start": "00:37:45", "end": "00:37:52", "text": ">> I was right here. But a good take on the"}, {"start": "00:37:48", "end": "00:37:53", "text": "UFO stuff is the um orthodoxy and the"}, {"start": "00:37:52", "end": "00:37:54", "text": "religion of the future. Father Sarah"}, {"start": "00:37:53", "end": "00:37:56", "text": "from Rose"}, {"start": "00:37:54", "end": "00:37:58", "text": ">> Saint"}, {"start": "00:37:56", "end": "00:37:59", "text": "very recently."}, {"start": "00:37:58", "end": "00:37:59", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:37:59", "end": "00:38:00", "text": ">> Um"}, {"start": "00:37:59", "end": "00:38:03", "text": ">> when they will be saints."}, {"start": "00:38:00", "end": "00:38:05", "text": ">> I mean that that would be we can that's"}, {"start": "00:38:03", "end": "00:38:07", "text": "the thing that's what I love about"}, {"start": "00:38:05", "end": "00:38:07", "text": "saying these saints is there's no"}, {"start": "00:38:07", "end": "00:38:10", "text": "discrimination."}, {"start": "00:38:07", "end": "00:38:13", "text": ">> You can you can live your life to be I"}, {"start": "00:38:10", "end": "00:38:14", "text": "mean we're all saints if we're true holy"}, {"start": "00:38:13", "end": "00:38:16", "text": "followers of Christ, right?"}, {"start": "00:38:14", "end": "00:38:18", "text": ">> Yeah. I aspire for recognition."}, {"start": "00:38:16", "end": "00:38:22", "text": ">> All all saints were sinners."}, {"start": "00:38:18", "end": "00:38:23", "text": ">> Um but he has a whole chapter on UFOs"}, {"start": "00:38:22", "end": "00:38:26", "text": "and the deception and he goes back in"}, {"start": "00:38:23", "end": "00:38:29", "text": "history and back to like early church"}, {"start": "00:38:26", "end": "00:38:31", "text": "fathers who wrote about these deceptions"}, {"start": "00:38:29", "end": "00:38:31", "text": "that Satan can perform."}, {"start": "00:38:31", "end": "00:38:33", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:38:31", "end": "00:38:34", "text": ">> Mainly in the sky."}, {"start": "00:38:33", "end": "00:38:34", "text": ">> Yeah. And he wrote this in the 60s,"}, {"start": "00:38:34", "end": "00:38:36", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "00:38:34", "end": "00:38:38", "text": ">> 60s or 70s. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:38:36", "end": "00:38:43", "text": ">> And what's interesting about it is that"}, {"start": "00:38:38", "end": "00:38:46", "text": "he himself, St. Saraphim Rose was um"}, {"start": "00:38:43", "end": "00:38:49", "text": "very influenced by new age spiritualism"}, {"start": "00:38:46", "end": "00:38:52", "text": "in his youth and tried basically every"}, {"start": "00:38:49", "end": "00:38:53", "text": "religion particularly Hinduism"}, {"start": "00:38:52", "end": "00:38:55", "text": ">> and like would travel and see all these"}, {"start": "00:38:53", "end": "00:38:56", "text": "deities and I think it was it him or was"}, {"start": "00:38:55", "end": "00:38:59", "text": "it another book we were reading where he"}, {"start": "00:38:56", "end": "00:39:01", "text": "went and he went to worship at one of"}, {"start": "00:38:59", "end": "00:39:03", "text": "the Hindu god spaces and then had a"}, {"start": "00:39:01", "end": "00:39:06", "text": "spiritual"}, {"start": "00:39:03", "end": "00:39:09", "text": ">> basically discern that that was evil. Um"}, {"start": "00:39:06", "end": "00:39:11", "text": "anyway, he he's warning us in the 60s"}, {"start": "00:39:09", "end": "00:39:13", "text": "about this new age spiritualism rising"}, {"start": "00:39:11", "end": "00:39:14", "text": "up in our country. And then you're"}, {"start": "00:39:13", "end": "00:39:17", "text": "reading it now and you see how these"}, {"start": "00:39:14", "end": "00:39:18", "text": "things have come to pass in our nation"}, {"start": "00:39:17", "end": "00:39:20", "text": "and how it's so ingrained even"}, {"start": "00:39:18", "end": "00:39:21", "text": ">> leaked into our churches."}, {"start": "00:39:20", "end": "00:39:23", "text": ">> Pentecostalism,"}, {"start": "00:39:21", "end": "00:39:25", "text": "all this stuff, how"}, {"start": "00:39:23", "end": "00:39:27", "text": ">> I'm I'm going to throw out a"}, {"start": "00:39:25", "end": "00:39:30", "text": "counterpoint just to just to mix it up a"}, {"start": "00:39:27", "end": "00:39:32", "text": "bit. But if this is a big like SCOP and"}, {"start": "00:39:30", "end": "00:39:35", "text": "you need the church to like fully buy"}, {"start": "00:39:32", "end": "00:39:37", "text": "into this stuff, what a time to make it"}, {"start": "00:39:35", "end": "00:39:37", "text": "canon."}, {"start": "00:39:37", "end": "00:39:40", "text": ">> What do you mean?"}, {"start": "00:39:37", "end": "00:39:41", "text": ">> Like you said, you said he was like"}, {"start": "00:39:40", "end": "00:39:43", "text": "sanctified"}, {"start": "00:39:41", "end": "00:39:45", "text": ">> for whatever the word is. So just"}, {"start": "00:39:43", "end": "00:39:47", "text": "throwing it out there, it affirms"}, {"start": "00:39:45", "end": "00:39:48", "text": "everything he said right as they're"}, {"start": "00:39:47", "end": "00:39:49", "text": "saying all this weird sky stuff's about"}, {"start": "00:39:48", "end": "00:39:50", "text": "to happen."}, {"start": "00:39:49", "end": "00:39:52", "text": ">> Yeah, I guess you could look at that."}, {"start": "00:39:50", "end": "00:39:54", "text": ">> Just throwing that out there as someone"}, {"start": "00:39:52", "end": "00:39:56", "text": "who hasn't read the timing."}, {"start": "00:39:54", "end": "00:39:59", "text": ">> Yeah, timing is weird. Yeah, because he"}, {"start": "00:39:56", "end": "00:40:01", "text": "died in the 70s and"}, {"start": "00:39:59", "end": "00:40:02", "text": ">> when all of the weird occulty government"}, {"start": "00:40:01", "end": "00:40:06", "text": "stuff was also happening."}, {"start": "00:40:02", "end": "00:40:08", "text": ">> Also canonized as a saint the same week"}, {"start": "00:40:06", "end": "00:40:09", "text": "that these pastors met with this."}, {"start": "00:40:08", "end": "00:40:10", "text": ">> Wow, that's so funny."}, {"start": "00:40:09", "end": "00:40:11", "text": ">> That is interesting."}, {"start": "00:40:10", "end": "00:40:13", "text": ">> So, what do you think the church's"}, {"start": "00:40:11", "end": "00:40:14", "text": "reaction should be? Because I saw that"}, {"start": "00:40:13", "end": "00:40:16", "text": "blurry creatures post and I had no idea"}, {"start": "00:40:14", "end": "00:40:17", "text": "the context. I was like, this is like it"}, {"start": "00:40:16", "end": "00:40:20", "text": "seems super random, but now it makes"}, {"start": "00:40:17", "end": "00:40:21", "text": "total sense. Yeah. About just like how"}, {"start": "00:40:20", "end": "00:40:24", "text": "churches should be reacting to this."}, {"start": "00:40:21", "end": "00:40:26", "text": "Should pastors be mentioning this on"}, {"start": "00:40:24", "end": "00:40:28", "text": ">> Oh, churches. I mean, I would start"}, {"start": "00:40:26", "end": "00:40:31", "text": "talking about deception like"}, {"start": "00:40:28", "end": "00:40:34", "text": ">> and just saying like what deception has"}, {"start": "00:40:31", "end": "00:40:35", "text": "even looked like just through scripture"}, {"start": "00:40:34", "end": "00:40:37", "text": ">> and church history."}, {"start": "00:40:35", "end": "00:40:39", "text": ">> Church history especially. Like I mean"}, {"start": "00:40:37", "end": "00:40:41", "text": "cuz I was even reading"}, {"start": "00:40:39", "end": "00:40:42", "text": ">> I'm reading a book. It's uh St. Anthony"}, {"start": "00:40:41", "end": "00:40:43", "text": "the Great, which I talked about a week"}, {"start": "00:40:42", "end": "00:40:45", "text": "or two ago."}, {"start": "00:40:43", "end": "00:40:47", "text": ">> I'm reading his like uh biography kind"}, {"start": "00:40:45", "end": "00:40:49", "text": "of thing, but he like has some of his"}, {"start": "00:40:47", "end": "00:40:51", "text": "teachings in it."}, {"start": "00:40:49", "end": "00:40:52", "text": ">> This dude's nuts. Like he was living in"}, {"start": "00:40:51", "end": "00:40:55", "text": "the desert. There was at one point he"}, {"start": "00:40:52", "end": "00:40:57", "text": "was living alone with his door shut in"}, {"start": "00:40:55", "end": "00:40:58", "text": "the desert for 20 years straight."}, {"start": "00:40:57", "end": "00:40:59", "text": ">> Oh my gosh."}, {"start": "00:40:58", "end": "00:41:00", "text": ">> And somebody would bring him bread like"}, {"start": "00:40:59", "end": "00:41:01", "text": "once a week, right?"}, {"start": "00:41:00", "end": "00:41:03", "text": ">> Somebody No, they would bring him bread"}, {"start": "00:41:01", "end": "00:41:05", "text": "twice a year."}, {"start": "00:41:03", "end": "00:41:06", "text": ">> And enough bread and he would just eat"}, {"start": "00:41:05", "end": "00:41:06", "text": "little morsels of it."}, {"start": "00:41:06", "end": "00:41:08", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:41:06", "end": "00:41:11", "text": ">> And these people came and they're like"}, {"start": "00:41:08", "end": "00:41:13", "text": "begging to talk to s an uh Anthony the"}, {"start": "00:41:11", "end": "00:41:17", "text": "Great."}, {"start": "00:41:13", "end": "00:41:18", "text": ">> And um there was they would hear arguing"}, {"start": "00:41:17", "end": "00:41:20", "text": "like people fighting and they're like,"}, {"start": "00:41:18", "end": "00:41:22", "text": "\"What in the world?\" And they look under"}, {"start": "00:41:20", "end": "00:41:24", "text": "the door. No one's in there. And they're"}, {"start": "00:41:22", "end": "00:41:25", "text": "like, \"These are demons.\" He's fighting"}, {"start": "00:41:24", "end": "00:41:26", "text": "demons right now. Gosh."}, {"start": "00:41:25", "end": "00:41:27", "text": ">> And then he basically yelled out. He's"}, {"start": "00:41:26", "end": "00:41:27", "text": "like, \"Why are you guys afraid of"}, {"start": "00:41:27", "end": "00:41:28", "text": "demons?\""}, {"start": "00:41:27", "end": "00:41:29", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:41:28", "end": "00:41:30", "text": ">> He said, \"They don't have power over"}, {"start": "00:41:29", "end": "00:41:31", "text": "us.\" Yeah."}, {"start": "00:41:30", "end": "00:41:34", "text": ">> They said, \"We worship the living God"}, {"start": "00:41:31", "end": "00:41:37", "text": "who has power. If anything, they have no"}, {"start": "00:41:34", "end": "00:41:39", "text": "authority to hurt us unless given the"}, {"start": "00:41:37", "end": "00:41:40", "text": "given the authority like Job.\""}, {"start": "00:41:39", "end": "00:41:41", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:41:40", "end": "00:41:42", "text": ">> Um"}, {"start": "00:41:41", "end": "00:41:45", "text": ">> given the authority by God."}, {"start": "00:41:42", "end": "00:41:48", "text": ">> Given the authority by God to test us"}, {"start": "00:41:45", "end": "00:41:50", "text": "and test our faith like Job. Um"}, {"start": "00:41:48", "end": "00:41:51", "text": ">> what it it's actually like if you're"}, {"start": "00:41:50", "end": "00:41:53", "text": "under demonic oppression, it's actually"}, {"start": "00:41:51", "end": "00:41:54", "text": "an honor."}, {"start": "00:41:53", "end": "00:41:56", "text": ">> Yeah, it truly is."}, {"start": "00:41:54", "end": "00:41:56", "text": ">> Job was sought out."}, {"start": "00:41:56", "end": "00:41:58", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:41:56", "end": "00:41:59", "text": ">> I remember when uh we had that"}, {"start": "00:41:58", "end": "00:42:01", "text": "experience with the girl who was"}, {"start": "00:41:59", "end": "00:42:03", "text": "possessed at that camp and I remember"}, {"start": "00:42:01", "end": "00:42:05", "text": "everyone was scared and I was like,"}, {"start": "00:42:03", "end": "00:42:06", "text": ">> did she affect any of us or was the"}, {"start": "00:42:05", "end": "00:42:07", "text": "devil trying to shut down what was"}, {"start": "00:42:06", "end": "00:42:10", "text": "happening?"}, {"start": "00:42:07", "end": "00:42:12", "text": ">> I was like, which means there's re there"}, {"start": "00:42:10", "end": "00:42:13", "text": "is a reality to the power that we have"}, {"start": "00:42:12", "end": "00:42:14", "text": "access to."}, {"start": "00:42:13", "end": "00:42:15", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:42:14", "end": "00:42:17", "text": ">> So it's like what do we have to fear?"}, {"start": "00:42:15", "end": "00:42:18", "text": ">> So good there. And have you guys ever"}, {"start": "00:42:17", "end": "00:42:20", "text": "seen the movie Big Fish?"}, {"start": "00:42:18", "end": "00:42:21", "text": ">> Yeah, of course. Love it."}, {"start": "00:42:20", "end": "00:42:23", "text": ">> So good. It's one of the best. I was"}, {"start": "00:42:21", "end": "00:42:26", "text": "watching that last night. Demi wanted to"}, {"start": "00:42:23", "end": "00:42:27", "text": "watch it and we were the whole premise"}, {"start": "00:42:26", "end": "00:42:29", "text": "like of the movie at the very beginning."}, {"start": "00:42:27", "end": "00:42:31", "text": "He see he meets this witch that has this"}, {"start": "00:42:29", "end": "00:42:33", "text": "eye that you know can show him how he"}, {"start": "00:42:31", "end": "00:42:34", "text": "dies, right? And that gives him the"}, {"start": "00:42:33", "end": "00:42:36", "text": "courage throughout his whole life like"}, {"start": "00:42:34", "end": "00:42:38", "text": "to do these miraculous things because he"}, {"start": "00:42:36", "end": "00:42:40", "text": "knows how he dies. He knows he's an old"}, {"start": "00:42:38", "end": "00:42:41", "text": "man and that he's like so it gave him"}, {"start": "00:42:40", "end": "00:42:42", "text": "confidence and like I feel like that's"}, {"start": "00:42:41", "end": "00:42:45", "text": "the same thing. It's like we're we're"}, {"start": "00:42:42", "end": "00:42:47", "text": "told whether we die on this earth in a"}, {"start": "00:42:45", "end": "00:42:48", "text": "horrible or long live a long life, you"}, {"start": "00:42:47", "end": "00:42:50", "text": "know, whatever it may be, it's like we"}, {"start": "00:42:48", "end": "00:42:51", "text": "know how the story ends."}, {"start": "00:42:50", "end": "00:42:53", "text": ">> Like we're going to we got to we got to"}, {"start": "00:42:51", "end": "00:42:54", "text": "do it. And so like yeah, like it is an"}, {"start": "00:42:53", "end": "00:42:56", "text": "honor to go through trials and"}, {"start": "00:42:54", "end": "00:42:58", "text": "tribulations and you know, be attacked"}, {"start": "00:42:56", "end": "00:43:00", "text": "by demons if that's the case. If you're"}, {"start": "00:42:58", "end": "00:43:01", "text": ">> count it all joy when you meet suffering"}, {"start": "00:43:00", "end": "00:43:03", "text": "of various kinds."}, {"start": "00:43:01", "end": "00:43:05", "text": ">> My word so good. That's my my verse of"}, {"start": "00:43:03", "end": "00:43:07", "text": "the season, you guys. So good."}, {"start": "00:43:05", "end": "00:43:10", "text": ">> That there was a chapter in there where"}, {"start": "00:43:07", "end": "00:43:11", "text": "he talked about um demonic prophecy."}, {"start": "00:43:10", "end": "00:43:15", "text": ">> Mhm. Mhm."}, {"start": "00:43:11", "end": "00:43:18", "text": ">> And he's like, \"Demons, Satan, cannot"}, {"start": "00:43:15", "end": "00:43:21", "text": "prophesy. They do not know the future."}, {"start": "00:43:18", "end": "00:43:22", "text": "What they are, they're clever and"}, {"start": "00:43:21", "end": "00:43:23", "text": "they're very good guessers.\""}, {"start": "00:43:22", "end": "00:43:24", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "00:43:23", "end": "00:43:26", "text": ">> And he said, and that's why there's a"}, {"start": "00:43:24", "end": "00:43:28", "text": "lot of like hold these prophecies like"}, {"start": "00:43:26", "end": "00:43:29", "text": "if the prophecy is false, stone that"}, {"start": "00:43:28", "end": "00:43:31", "text": "prophet kind of thing. That was like all"}, {"start": "00:43:29", "end": "00:43:34", "text": "throughout scripture. But he's like even"}, {"start": "00:43:31", "end": "00:43:37", "text": "he was giving examples. It was crazy."}, {"start": "00:43:34", "end": "00:43:40", "text": "He's like they'll come for be as a"}, {"start": "00:43:37", "end": "00:43:41", "text": "person and they'll be like the river is"}, {"start": "00:43:40", "end": "00:43:43", "text": "going to flood."}, {"start": "00:43:41", "end": "00:43:45", "text": ">> He said they only know that because that"}, {"start": "00:43:43", "end": "00:43:48", "text": "demon was further up the river and saw"}, {"start": "00:43:45", "end": "00:43:50", "text": "that it was raining. Rush back and they"}, {"start": "00:43:48", "end": "00:43:52", "text": "make this prophecy. And so it's it's"}, {"start": "00:43:50", "end": "00:43:54", "text": "some of these prophecies prophecies are"}, {"start": "00:43:52", "end": "00:43:57", "text": "true"}, {"start": "00:43:54", "end": "00:43:58", "text": ">> to gain their trust in order to further"}, {"start": "00:43:57", "end": "00:43:59", "text": "deceive."}, {"start": "00:43:58", "end": "00:44:01", "text": ">> Yeah. For the listeners. It's just"}, {"start": "00:43:59", "end": "00:44:02", "text": "calcul calculated predictions instead of"}, {"start": "00:44:01", "end": "00:44:04", "text": "prophecies. Right."}, {"start": "00:44:02", "end": "00:44:07", "text": ">> Exactly. for the listeners only"}, {"start": "00:44:04", "end": "00:44:08", "text": "prophecies was in quotes."}, {"start": "00:44:07", "end": "00:44:11", "text": ">> Air quoted. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:44:08", "end": "00:44:14", "text": ">> But test everything. Test everything in"}, {"start": "00:44:11", "end": "00:44:15", "text": "accordance to what we read in our Bibles"}, {"start": "00:44:14", "end": "00:44:17", "text": "and in prayer."}, {"start": "00:44:15", "end": "00:44:18", "text": ">> And that's where the pastors need to"}, {"start": "00:44:17", "end": "00:44:20", "text": "step up. It's like you don't have to"}, {"start": "00:44:18", "end": "00:44:22", "text": "focus on the aliens, but like look at"}, {"start": "00:44:20", "end": "00:44:23", "text": "scripture and like when letters were"}, {"start": "00:44:22", "end": "00:44:25", "text": "written to correct, you know,"}, {"start": "00:44:23", "end": "00:44:26", "text": "theological issues like look how it was"}, {"start": "00:44:25", "end": "00:44:28", "text": "handled in the church."}, {"start": "00:44:26", "end": "00:44:30", "text": ">> Yeah. And be like instead of quoting"}, {"start": "00:44:28", "end": "00:44:32", "text": "like in the days of Noah, so it'll be"}, {"start": "00:44:30", "end": "00:44:34", "text": "before my return. Yeah. quote like this"}, {"start": "00:44:32", "end": "00:44:35", "text": "is what scripture says about deception."}, {"start": "00:44:34", "end": "00:44:36", "text": "Yeah. You know, like let's start talking"}, {"start": "00:44:35", "end": "00:44:37", "text": "about that."}, {"start": "00:44:36", "end": "00:44:39", "text": ">> Everything needs to lead to the cross"}, {"start": "00:44:37", "end": "00:44:40", "text": ">> because of course everyone knows that"}, {"start": "00:44:39", "end": "00:44:42", "text": "that verse now. It'll be like the days"}, {"start": "00:44:40", "end": "00:44:44", "text": "of Noah. Yeah. And it's like"}, {"start": "00:44:42", "end": "00:44:47", "text": ">> let's talk about let's prepare everyone"}, {"start": "00:44:44", "end": "00:44:50", "text": "to not be deceived. And it don't be so"}, {"start": "00:44:47", "end": "00:44:54", "text": "focused on that. If you fully focus on"}, {"start": "00:44:50", "end": "00:44:55", "text": "living a life for Christ, blot out the"}, {"start": "00:44:54", "end": "00:44:58", "text": "world. The world doesn't matter. Live"}, {"start": "00:44:55", "end": "00:44:59", "text": "for the kingdom of God. I guarantee you,"}, {"start": "00:44:58", "end": "00:45:00", "text": "you will not be deceived."}, {"start": "00:44:59", "end": "00:45:01", "text": ">> Yeah. Don't fall for Yeah. You will fall"}, {"start": "00:45:00", "end": "00:45:02", "text": "for the tricks."}, {"start": "00:45:01", "end": "00:45:03", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:45:02", "end": "00:45:04", "text": ">> It's called discernment."}, {"start": "00:45:03", "end": "00:45:05", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:45:04", "end": "00:45:06", "text": ">> God will give you discernment."}, {"start": "00:45:05", "end": "00:45:09", "text": ">> Discern."}, {"start": "00:45:06", "end": "00:45:09", "text": ">> Discern."}, {"start": "00:45:11", "end": "00:45:13", "text": ">> Speaking of discernment, did you hear"}, {"start": "00:45:12", "end": "00:45:15", "text": "about that cruise where it's has a"}, {"start": "00:45:13", "end": "00:45:16", "text": "pandemic that's going to wipe out the"}, {"start": "00:45:15", "end": "00:45:16", "text": "entire earth?"}, {"start": "00:45:16", "end": "00:45:21", "text": ">> I did not."}, {"start": "00:45:16", "end": "00:45:21", "text": ">> Okay. I'll tell you more about anywhere."}, {"start": "00:45:21", "end": "00:45:24", "text": ">> What's going on, guys? Andrew here. I"}, {"start": "00:45:23", "end": "00:45:26", "text": "want to tell you about our Patreon"}, {"start": "00:45:24", "end": "00:45:27", "text": "account. We go so far down the rabbit"}, {"start": "00:45:26", "end": "00:45:28", "text": "hole, you're never going to find your"}, {"start": "00:45:27", "end": "00:45:30", "text": "way out. There's stuff we can't even"}, {"start": "00:45:28", "end": "00:45:32", "text": "post on YouTube without it getting"}, {"start": "00:45:30", "end": "00:45:34", "text": "flagged. And all of that stuff exists at"}, {"start": "00:45:32", "end": "00:45:36", "text": "patreon.com/ninjas"}, {"start": "00:45:34", "end": "00:45:38", "text": "or butterflies. We got early released"}, {"start": "00:45:36", "end": "00:45:40", "text": "episodes. 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Bye."}, {"start": "00:45:55", "end": "00:45:57", "text": "Annual labor."}, {"start": "00:45:56", "end": "00:45:59", "text": ">> If this podcast ever goes under, please"}, {"start": "00:45:57", "end": "00:46:00", "text": "let's start a lawn service."}, {"start": "00:45:59", "end": "00:46:02", "text": ">> Oh, I'm in."}, {"start": "00:46:00", "end": "00:46:02", "text": ">> Can I just be the marketing guy?"}, {"start": "00:46:02", "end": "00:46:03", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "00:46:02", "end": "00:46:05", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:46:03", "end": "00:46:07", "text": ">> You can be the leaf blower guy."}, {"start": "00:46:05", "end": "00:46:08", "text": ">> Yeah, that's pretty satisfying."}, {"start": "00:46:07", "end": "00:46:09", "text": ">> We're the big backpack one."}, {"start": "00:46:08", "end": "00:46:10", "text": ">> I want the I want the standing lawn"}, {"start": "00:46:09", "end": "00:46:10", "text": "mower."}, {"start": "00:46:10", "end": "00:46:12", "text": ">> Oh,"}, {"start": "00:46:10", "end": "00:46:14", "text": ">> you see those guys? That's so cool."}, {"start": "00:46:12", "end": "00:46:17", "text": ">> Have you seen how much money that lawn"}, {"start": "00:46:14", "end": "00:46:18", "text": "services make in those like 55 and over"}, {"start": "00:46:17", "end": "00:46:19", "text": "like trailer park neighborhoods? Like"}, {"start": "00:46:18", "end": "00:46:21", "text": "the nice ones and like"}, {"start": "00:46:19", "end": "00:46:22", "text": ">> I know they make a lot. I it was I think"}, {"start": "00:46:21", "end": "00:46:24", "text": "it was like a couple hundred bucks a"}, {"start": "00:46:22", "end": "00:46:27", "text": "month is what my grandma was paying for"}, {"start": "00:46:24", "end": "00:46:29", "text": "her lawn. But I'm talking it's a strip"}, {"start": "00:46:27", "end": "00:46:31", "text": "between and they're all cookie cutter."}, {"start": "00:46:29", "end": "00:46:33", "text": "So literally you have a guy edging you"}, {"start": "00:46:31", "end": "00:46:35", "text": "got a guy running the mower through and"}, {"start": "00:46:33", "end": "00:46:37", "text": "you get the whole freaking HOA"}, {"start": "00:46:35", "end": "00:46:38", "text": ">> and so like I did the math. I forget how"}, {"start": "00:46:37", "end": "00:46:39", "text": "many it was like"}, {"start": "00:46:38", "end": "00:46:40", "text": ">> if you can book a neighborhood"}, {"start": "00:46:39", "end": "00:46:42", "text": ">> that's cuz that's how it works is"}, {"start": "00:46:40", "end": "00:46:44", "text": "through the HOA. So literally I mean"}, {"start": "00:46:42", "end": "00:46:44", "text": "you're raking in tens of thousand."}, {"start": "00:46:44", "end": "00:46:46", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:46:44", "end": "00:46:47", "text": ">> And that's like job security like crazy."}, {"start": "00:46:46", "end": "00:46:49", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:46:47", "end": "00:46:50", "text": ">> But what a tough tough business to get"}, {"start": "00:46:49", "end": "00:46:51", "text": "into. There's so many lawn services out"}, {"start": "00:46:50", "end": "00:46:52", "text": "there. That's what I'm saying."}, {"start": "00:46:51", "end": "00:46:53", "text": ">> So, what are you going to do to be"}, {"start": "00:46:52", "end": "00:46:54", "text": "different?"}, {"start": "00:46:53", "end": "00:46:56", "text": ">> But our marketing would be crazy fun."}, {"start": "00:46:54", "end": "00:46:58", "text": ">> Maybe we do like we get like super"}, {"start": "00:46:56", "end": "00:46:59", "text": "jacked and we just do the lawn in like"}, {"start": "00:46:58", "end": "00:47:01", "text": "our speedos or something."}, {"start": "00:46:59", "end": "00:47:01", "text": ">> I figured that was where we were going"}, {"start": "00:47:01", "end": "00:47:04", "text": "anyway."}, {"start": "00:47:01", "end": "00:47:06", "text": ">> Yeah. We'll call it um some some like a"}, {"start": "00:47:04", "end": "00:47:10", "text": "play on word like magic mics."}, {"start": "00:47:06", "end": "00:47:11", "text": ">> Like the lawn the lawn bronze."}, {"start": "00:47:10", "end": "00:47:11", "text": "Lawn bronze."}, {"start": "00:47:11", "end": "00:47:13", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:47:11", "end": "00:47:14", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:47:13", "end": "00:47:17", "text": ">> Lawn stars."}, {"start": "00:47:14", "end": "00:47:18", "text": ">> Lawn stars."}, {"start": "00:47:17", "end": "00:47:21", "text": ">> Lawn John's"}, {"start": "00:47:18", "end": "00:47:24", "text": ">> law Johns. Come on, John."}, {"start": "00:47:21", "end": "00:47:25", "text": ">> I'm John one. I'm John two."}, {"start": "00:47:24", "end": "00:47:27", "text": ">> John John."}, {"start": "00:47:25", "end": "00:47:27", "text": ">> Those bow buns."}, {"start": "00:47:27", "end": "00:47:28", "text": ">> Bow buns."}, {"start": "00:47:27", "end": "00:47:30", "text": ">> Ridiculous."}, {"start": "00:47:28", "end": "00:47:30", "text": ">> Do you want the bun?"}, {"start": "00:47:30", "end": "00:47:31", "text": ">> Chop pow."}, {"start": "00:47:30", "end": "00:47:32", "text": ">> Does she uh"}, {"start": "00:47:31", "end": "00:47:34", "text": ">> show?"}, {"start": "00:47:32", "end": "00:47:35", "text": ">> Do they ship?"}, {"start": "00:47:34", "end": "00:47:36", "text": ">> I don't know."}, {"start": "00:47:35", "end": "00:47:37", "text": ">> Sophie's Kitchen."}, {"start": "00:47:36", "end": "00:47:37", "text": ">> That's got to be frozen. So, I don't"}, {"start": "00:47:37", "end": "00:47:38", "text": "know."}, {"start": "00:47:37", "end": "00:47:39", "text": ">> I don't know."}, {"start": "00:47:38", "end": "00:47:40", "text": ">> If they do, go to everyone go to"}, {"start": "00:47:39", "end": "00:47:40", "text": "Sophie's Kitchen."}, {"start": "00:47:40", "end": "00:47:43", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:47:40", "end": "00:47:44", "text": ">> Google it. It's the greatest Filipino"}, {"start": "00:47:43", "end": "00:47:46", "text": "food I've ever had in my life."}, {"start": "00:47:44", "end": "00:47:48", "text": ">> Or if you're at Disney, make a little"}, {"start": "00:47:46", "end": "00:47:50", "text": "trip. Get you a little something. I'm"}, {"start": "00:47:48", "end": "00:47:51", "text": "not going to lie. I'm telling you, that"}, {"start": "00:47:50", "end": "00:47:53", "text": "ice cream, that ube ice cream that they"}, {"start": "00:47:51", "end": "00:47:55", "text": "gave us, it was phenomenal. The if I"}, {"start": "00:47:53", "end": "00:47:57", "text": "could die, if I had to die tomorrow and"}, {"start": "00:47:55", "end": "00:47:58", "text": "they're like, \"You have one treat.\""}, {"start": "00:47:57", "end": "00:47:59", "text": ">> ube ice cream."}, {"start": "00:47:58", "end": "00:48:01", "text": ">> That ube ice cream, even in that small"}, {"start": "00:47:59", "end": "00:48:03", "text": "of a dish, I could eat a whole gallon."}, {"start": "00:48:01", "end": "00:48:06", "text": "But even in that one, I was blown away."}, {"start": "00:48:03", "end": "00:48:08", "text": "She It's another fun surprise later when"}, {"start": "00:48:06", "end": "00:48:10", "text": "you go poop and your poop is purple."}, {"start": "00:48:08", "end": "00:48:11", "text": ">> That is fun. It's a fun surprise. We"}, {"start": "00:48:10", "end": "00:48:12", "text": "should have We should have more fun"}, {"start": "00:48:11", "end": "00:48:13", "text": "surprises like that in the food"}, {"start": "00:48:12", "end": "00:48:15", "text": "industry."}, {"start": "00:48:13", "end": "00:48:16", "text": ">> I agree. Like, yeah, it's good food, but"}, {"start": "00:48:15", "end": "00:48:18", "text": "guess what? You're also going to have"}, {"start": "00:48:16", "end": "00:48:19", "text": "fun taking it home later."}, {"start": "00:48:18", "end": "00:48:21", "text": ">> Yeah, dude. Like Superman ice cream,"}, {"start": "00:48:19", "end": "00:48:24", "text": "like half the fun was your poop later."}, {"start": "00:48:21", "end": "00:48:26", "text": ">> Yeah, I've always said that."}, {"start": "00:48:24", "end": "00:48:28", "text": ">> Ice cream is poop, by the way."}, {"start": "00:48:26", "end": "00:48:29", "text": ">> What if there's like pop rocks, but you"}, {"start": "00:48:28", "end": "00:48:30", "text": "didn't know like they were delayed, so"}, {"start": "00:48:29", "end": "00:48:31", "text": "you didn't know when they were going to"}, {"start": "00:48:30", "end": "00:48:35", "text": "pop?"}, {"start": "00:48:31", "end": "00:48:38", "text": ">> It just pops in the water when you poop."}, {"start": "00:48:35", "end": "00:48:41", "text": ">> Um, speaking of pop rocks in your poop,"}, {"start": "00:48:38", "end": "00:48:41", "text": ">> question."}, {"start": "00:48:42", "end": "00:48:46", "text": "I did not have a question, so I just"}, {"start": "00:48:44", "end": "00:48:48", "text": "texted Allan in the bathroom. I said,"}, {"start": "00:48:46", "end": "00:48:49", "text": "\"Hurry, I need a question.\""}, {"start": "00:48:48", "end": "00:48:50", "text": ">> Should we call him right now?"}, {"start": "00:48:49", "end": "00:48:52", "text": ">> Can I have a bite of that?"}, {"start": "00:48:50", "end": "00:48:54", "text": ">> For clarity, who was in the bathroom?"}, {"start": "00:48:52", "end": "00:48:54", "text": ">> I texted Allan while I was in the"}, {"start": "00:48:54", "end": "00:48:55", "text": "bathroom."}, {"start": "00:48:54", "end": "00:48:56", "text": ">> Oh, you were in the bathroom, not Alan."}, {"start": "00:48:55", "end": "00:48:57", "text": ">> Yes, you can have a bite."}, {"start": "00:48:56", "end": "00:48:59", "text": ">> Let me call him real quick. See if he"}, {"start": "00:48:57", "end": "00:49:00", "text": "answers."}, {"start": "00:48:59", "end": "00:49:02", "text": ">> He will. He just texted me. If he"}, {"start": "00:49:00", "end": "00:49:05", "text": "doesn't answer you, then there's a"}, {"start": "00:49:02", "end": "00:49:05", "text": "problem."}, {"start": "00:49:06", "end": "00:49:08", "text": ">> Yeah, it's a problem. How many of those"}, {"start": "00:49:07", "end": "00:49:13", "text": "I've eaten?"}, {"start": "00:49:08", "end": "00:49:13", "text": ">> So good. They do spam and eggs."}, {"start": "00:49:17", "end": "00:49:22", "text": "Hola."}, {"start": "00:49:18", "end": "00:49:24", "text": ">> Hey babe, you're on the pod. Hey Alan."}, {"start": "00:49:22", "end": "00:49:25", "text": ">> Oh, how's it going guy?"}, {"start": "00:49:24", "end": "00:49:26", "text": ">> Hey,"}, {"start": "00:49:25", "end": "00:49:29", "text": ">> why does he sound like AI?"}, {"start": "00:49:26", "end": "00:49:31", "text": ">> First of all, this is AI chatbot Ellen."}, {"start": "00:49:29", "end": "00:49:32", "text": "Um, hey, listen. We need a question."}, {"start": "00:49:31", "end": "00:49:34", "text": "This question corner with Lily and Lily"}, {"start": "00:49:32", "end": "00:49:34", "text": "came unprepared. So, we need a question"}, {"start": "00:49:34", "end": "00:49:35", "text": "from you."}, {"start": "00:49:34", "end": "00:49:37", "text": ">> You sent me one."}, {"start": "00:49:35", "end": "00:49:40", "text": ">> It doesn't matter. It was his. I want to"}, {"start": "00:49:37", "end": "00:49:41", "text": "hear him voice. His voice say it."}, {"start": "00:49:40", "end": "00:49:43", "text": "What happened?"}, {"start": "00:49:41", "end": "00:49:44", "text": ">> He sent me one. I have it right here."}, {"start": "00:49:43", "end": "00:49:46", "text": ">> Yeah, but what happened? Why didn't you"}, {"start": "00:49:44", "end": "00:49:48", "text": "Why did you come to the pod unprepared?"}, {"start": "00:49:46", "end": "00:49:48", "text": ">> I was researching something else."}, {"start": "00:49:48", "end": "00:49:50", "text": ">> Right."}, {"start": "00:49:48", "end": "00:49:52", "text": ">> I was I promised."}, {"start": "00:49:50", "end": "00:49:54", "text": ">> I sent you. Wait, Lily, I sent you two."}, {"start": "00:49:52", "end": "00:49:55", "text": "Which one are you trying to use?"}, {"start": "00:49:54", "end": "00:49:57", "text": ">> I want to do the one in the video that"}, {"start": "00:49:55", "end": "00:49:58", "text": "you sent because the other one is dumb."}, {"start": "00:49:57", "end": "00:50:00", "text": "We're Christians. We all know how we're"}, {"start": "00:49:58", "end": "00:50:01", "text": "going to answer it."}, {"start": "00:50:00", "end": "00:50:02", "text": ">> I still want to hear this one after as"}, {"start": "00:50:01", "end": "00:50:03", "text": "well."}, {"start": "00:50:02", "end": "00:50:05", "text": ">> But you give us you give us the you give"}, {"start": "00:50:03", "end": "00:50:08", "text": "us the good one, Alan."}, {"start": "00:50:05", "end": "00:50:10", "text": ">> Okay. The one that is in the video that"}, {"start": "00:50:08", "end": "00:50:11", "text": "I sent Lily, uh, it goes like this."}, {"start": "00:50:10", "end": "00:50:11", "text": "Ready?"}, {"start": "00:50:11", "end": "00:50:14", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:50:11", "end": "00:50:15", "text": ">> So, there's a magic coin. You have a"}, {"start": "00:50:14", "end": "00:50:18", "text": "coin."}, {"start": "00:50:15", "end": "00:50:23", "text": ">> Um, you can flip it once per day. That's"}, {"start": "00:50:18", "end": "00:50:28", "text": "it. Um, what happens is if you flip it"}, {"start": "00:50:23", "end": "00:50:30", "text": "and it lands on heads, you get $1,000."}, {"start": "00:50:28", "end": "00:50:32", "text": ">> $10,000 or said"}, {"start": "00:50:30", "end": "00:50:34", "text": ">> $10,000. Okay."}, {"start": "00:50:32", "end": "00:50:38", "text": ">> Okay. $10,000."}, {"start": "00:50:34", "end": "00:50:44", "text": "Big money out here. Uh, hail,"}, {"start": "00:50:38", "end": "00:50:44", "text": "a llama spawns in your house."}, {"start": "00:50:45", "end": "00:50:54", "text": "The only way to get rid of the llamas is"}, {"start": "00:50:49", "end": "00:50:54", "text": "to destroy the coin."}, {"start": "00:50:55", "end": "00:51:00", "text": ">> How many times are you flipping this"}, {"start": "00:50:58", "end": "00:51:02", "text": "coin?"}, {"start": "00:51:00", "end": "00:51:02", "text": ">> Oh man, every day. I got the I got the"}, {"start": "00:51:02", "end": "00:51:04", "text": "Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:51:02", "end": "00:51:05", "text": ">> you then if if you get tails then you"}, {"start": "00:51:04", "end": "00:51:06", "text": "get a llama farm."}, {"start": "00:51:05", "end": "00:51:08", "text": ">> That's"}, {"start": "00:51:06", "end": "00:51:09", "text": ">> instantly swap into a llama farm."}, {"start": "00:51:08", "end": "00:51:12", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:51:09", "end": "00:51:16", "text": ">> Statistically half the time. So let's go"}, {"start": "00:51:12", "end": "00:51:18", "text": "a month. So you're 10 grand at 15 days"}, {"start": "00:51:16", "end": "00:51:18", "text": "is a lot of money."}, {"start": "00:51:18", "end": "00:51:20", "text": ">> It's true."}, {"start": "00:51:18", "end": "00:51:22", "text": ">> It's enough to buy some property. Tales"}, {"start": "00:51:20", "end": "00:51:22", "text": "never fails though. So that's a lot of"}, {"start": "00:51:22", "end": "00:51:24", "text": "llamas."}, {"start": "00:51:22", "end": "00:51:26", "text": ">> That is a lot of llamas. You're I'm"}, {"start": "00:51:24", "end": "00:51:30", "text": "assuming this llama has never really"}, {"start": "00:51:26", "end": "00:51:31", "text": "been in captivity."}, {"start": "00:51:30", "end": "00:51:32", "text": "I would assume it's wild."}, {"start": "00:51:31", "end": "00:51:34", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:51:32", "end": "00:51:36", "text": ">> I assume all blas are wild, right?"}, {"start": "00:51:34", "end": "00:51:38", "text": ">> Yeah. So, you got to assume there's"}, {"start": "00:51:36", "end": "00:51:38", "text": "going to be some damage to"}, {"start": "00:51:38", "end": "00:51:39", "text": ">> to your house,"}, {"start": "00:51:38", "end": "00:51:42", "text": ">> to your property, right?"}, {"start": "00:51:39", "end": "00:51:43", "text": ">> But 10 grand easy fix another 10 grand"}, {"start": "00:51:42", "end": "00:51:44", "text": "the next day."}, {"start": "00:51:43", "end": "00:51:46", "text": ">> Buy some property. You're buying"}, {"start": "00:51:44", "end": "00:51:48", "text": "property at this point."}, {"start": "00:51:46", "end": "00:51:50", "text": ">> Get a petting llama zoo."}, {"start": "00:51:48", "end": "00:51:51", "text": ">> You can't sell the llamas though because"}, {"start": "00:51:50", "end": "00:51:52", "text": "you have to keep them. That's part of"}, {"start": "00:51:51", "end": "00:51:55", "text": "the"}, {"start": "00:51:52", "end": "00:51:59", "text": ">> Yeah, use them llama milk. You can you"}, {"start": "00:51:55", "end": "00:51:59", "text": "can do um what what what did llama fur?"}, {"start": "00:51:59", "end": "00:52:02", "text": ">> Oh yeah."}, {"start": "00:51:59", "end": "00:52:04", "text": ">> Oh my gosh. Yeah. Like yarn. We could"}, {"start": "00:52:02", "end": "00:52:05", "text": "sell it to yarn."}, {"start": "00:52:04", "end": "00:52:06", "text": ">> You can't destroy them."}, {"start": "00:52:05", "end": "00:52:08", "text": ">> This is a win. Allan, this is a win-win"}, {"start": "00:52:06", "end": "00:52:10", "text": "situation here, pal."}, {"start": "00:52:08", "end": "00:52:11", "text": ">> Wait, wait, wait. Hold on. You guys are"}, {"start": "00:52:10", "end": "00:52:14", "text": "saying all of the ways that you can"}, {"start": "00:52:11", "end": "00:52:16", "text": "monetize parts of the llama monetize the"}, {"start": "00:52:14", "end": "00:52:19", "text": "fit at all?"}, {"start": "00:52:16", "end": "00:52:21", "text": ">> Oh, we Okay, we know how you slobber and"}, {"start": "00:52:19", "end": "00:52:22", "text": "you salivate, dude. We've we've heard"}, {"start": "00:52:21", "end": "00:52:24", "text": "this. I think that's where your mind"}, {"start": "00:52:22", "end": "00:52:27", "text": "goes."}, {"start": "00:52:24", "end": "00:52:27", "text": "Yeah."}, {"start": "00:52:28", "end": "00:52:31", "text": ">> Yeah. If this goes back to the other"}, {"start": "00:52:29", "end": "00:52:32", "text": "would you rather where you get like it"}, {"start": "00:52:31", "end": "00:52:34", "text": "turns to currency, you'd be rolling in"}, {"start": "00:52:32", "end": "00:52:39", "text": "the money."}, {"start": "00:52:34", "end": "00:52:41", "text": ">> Um I'm going to say uh flip it forever."}, {"start": "00:52:39", "end": "00:52:42", "text": ">> Yeah. For once a day for the rest of my"}, {"start": "00:52:41", "end": "00:52:44", "text": "life. And then if you get tired of the"}, {"start": "00:52:42", "end": "00:52:46", "text": "llamas, if they're just if it's just too"}, {"start": "00:52:44", "end": "00:52:47", "text": "much to handle, then just figure out a"}, {"start": "00:52:46", "end": "00:52:49", "text": "way to destroy that coin."}, {"start": "00:52:47", "end": "00:52:49", "text": ">> Yeah. And then you have llama meat for"}, {"start": "00:52:49", "end": "00:52:51", "text": "years."}, {"start": "00:52:49", "end": "00:52:52", "text": ">> That in itself is going to be very"}, {"start": "00:52:51", "end": "00:52:54", "text": "difficult. You'd have to get a really"}, {"start": "00:52:52", "end": "00:52:56", "text": "hot fire, right?"}, {"start": "00:52:54", "end": "00:52:57", "text": ">> Yeah. Or just go to a volcano and cast"}, {"start": "00:52:56", "end": "00:52:59", "text": "it in."}, {"start": "00:52:57", "end": "00:53:00", "text": ">> Can you leave with the coin?"}, {"start": "00:52:59", "end": "00:53:02", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "00:53:00", "end": "00:53:03", "text": ">> I didn't know if the coin was bound to"}, {"start": "00:53:02", "end": "00:53:04", "text": "your home or something."}, {"start": "00:53:03", "end": "00:53:06", "text": ">> Of course not."}, {"start": "00:53:04", "end": "00:53:07", "text": ">> Does Lily think metal's indestructible?"}, {"start": "00:53:06", "end": "00:53:08", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"start": "00:53:07", "end": "00:53:09", "text": ">> I think destroying a coin would be"}, {"start": "00:53:08", "end": "00:53:10", "text": "pretty easy."}, {"start": "00:53:09", "end": "00:53:11", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:53:10", "end": "00:53:12", "text": ">> It also depends on like what do you mean"}, {"start": "00:53:11", "end": "00:53:14", "text": "destroy, right?"}, {"start": "00:53:12", "end": "00:53:14", "text": ">> If it was a wooden coin, it'd be super"}, {"start": "00:53:14", "end": "00:53:16", "text": "easy."}, {"start": "00:53:14", "end": "00:53:17", "text": ">> Basilisk."}, {"start": "00:53:16", "end": "00:53:19", "text": ">> All right, Alan, we love you so much."}, {"start": "00:53:17", "end": "00:53:21", "text": "Thank you so much for the question."}, {"start": "00:53:19", "end": "00:53:24", "text": ">> Oh, sure. Have a good one. Hey, congrats"}, {"start": "00:53:21", "end": "00:53:27", "text": "me on being a dad."}, {"start": "00:53:24", "end": "00:53:28", "text": ">> Love you. Hey, Alan. Can I tell you one"}, {"start": "00:53:27", "end": "00:53:29", "text": "more thing?"}, {"start": "00:53:28", "end": "00:53:32", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:53:29", "end": "00:53:32", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "00:53:33", "end": "00:53:36", "text": ">> His voice sounded so AI. That was so"}, {"start": "00:53:35", "end": "00:53:37", "text": "weird. Like there was a pause."}, {"start": "00:53:36", "end": "00:53:37", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:53:37", "end": "00:53:39", "text": ">> Hello."}, {"start": "00:53:37", "end": "00:53:41", "text": ">> My phone is crapping out. Look at this."}, {"start": "00:53:39", "end": "00:53:42", "text": "It won't unlock."}, {"start": "00:53:41", "end": "00:53:44", "text": ">> Uhoh. Oh,"}, {"start": "00:53:42", "end": "00:53:46", "text": ">> good stuff."}, {"start": "00:53:44", "end": "00:53:47", "text": ">> Car going off."}, {"start": "00:53:46", "end": "00:53:50", "text": "Phone breaking."}, {"start": "00:53:47", "end": "00:53:51", "text": ">> They're watching you. shut up about"}, {"start": "00:53:50", "end": "00:53:52", "text": "these pastors."}, {"start": "00:53:51", "end": "00:53:54", "text": ">> They're watching you."}, {"start": "00:53:52", "end": "00:53:56", "text": ">> All right. What was the other question?"}, {"start": "00:53:54", "end": "00:53:58", "text": ">> Uh, okay. He said, \"It's a popular"}, {"start": "00:53:56", "end": "00:54:01", "text": "question. I've never heard it before.\""}, {"start": "00:53:58", "end": "00:54:03", "text": "Um, he said,"}, {"start": "00:54:01", "end": "00:54:05", "text": "\"Everyone in the world has to take a"}, {"start": "00:54:03", "end": "00:54:07", "text": "private vote by pressing a red or blue"}, {"start": "00:54:05", "end": "00:54:10", "text": "button. If more than 50% of people press"}, {"start": "00:54:07", "end": "00:54:13", "text": "the blue button, everyone survives. If"}, {"start": "00:54:10", "end": "00:54:15", "text": "less than 50% of people press the blue"}, {"start": "00:54:13", "end": "00:54:16", "text": "button, only people who press the red"}, {"start": "00:54:15", "end": "00:54:18", "text": "button survive. Which button would you"}, {"start": "00:54:16", "end": "00:54:19", "text": "press?\" And I'm like, \"Obviously, we're"}, {"start": "00:54:18", "end": "00:54:21", "text": "Christians. We would all push the blue"}, {"start": "00:54:19", "end": "00:54:23", "text": "button. We want everyone to survive. We"}, {"start": "00:54:21", "end": "00:54:24", "text": "would be self-sacrificial."}, {"start": "00:54:23", "end": "00:54:26", "text": ">> Yeah, that's"}, {"start": "00:54:24", "end": "00:54:28", "text": ">> were told the rules before or you just"}, {"start": "00:54:26", "end": "00:54:29", "text": "like are just does just buttons spawn in"}, {"start": "00:54:28", "end": "00:54:30", "text": "front of you and you just like I don't"}, {"start": "00:54:29", "end": "00:54:32", "text": "know. I'm going to push it."}, {"start": "00:54:30", "end": "00:54:33", "text": ">> I think you're told the rules before."}, {"start": "00:54:32", "end": "00:54:33", "text": ">> Then everyone would push the blue"}, {"start": "00:54:33", "end": "00:54:36", "text": "button."}, {"start": "00:54:33", "end": "00:54:38", "text": ">> Everyone needs to press the blue button."}, {"start": "00:54:36", "end": "00:54:40", "text": ">> But I guess people who are like maybe a"}, {"start": "00:54:38", "end": "00:54:42", "text": "little narcissistic and fearful would be"}, {"start": "00:54:40", "end": "00:54:43", "text": "like"}, {"start": "00:54:42", "end": "00:54:44", "text": ">> if I press a red button, I'm surviving"}, {"start": "00:54:43", "end": "00:54:47", "text": "no matter what."}, {"start": "00:54:44", "end": "00:54:49", "text": ">> Is that the majority or minority? think"}, {"start": "00:54:47", "end": "00:54:50", "text": ">> I would hope it's the minority."}, {"start": "00:54:49", "end": "00:54:51", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "00:54:50", "end": "00:54:52", "text": ">> I think it's the minority."}, {"start": "00:54:51", "end": "00:54:54", "text": ">> Yeah, I think so."}, {"start": "00:54:52", "end": "00:54:55", "text": ">> I'm still optimistic about the condition"}, {"start": "00:54:54", "end": "00:54:57", "text": "of the world."}, {"start": "00:54:55", "end": "00:54:58", "text": ">> I get confused with the rules and"}, {"start": "00:54:57", "end": "00:54:58", "text": "accidentally hit the red one."}, {"start": "00:54:58", "end": "00:55:00", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:54:58", "end": "00:55:02", "text": ">> Daddy, don't go dang it."}, {"start": "00:55:00", "end": "00:55:03", "text": ">> Aa asked me in the car this morning. She"}, {"start": "00:55:02", "end": "00:55:06", "text": "said, \"Do people still live in the"}, {"start": "00:55:03", "end": "00:55:08", "text": "jungle?\" And I was like, \"Yeah, some"}, {"start": "00:55:06", "end": "00:55:10", "text": "places.\" And she's like, \"Where?\" I was"}, {"start": "00:55:08", "end": "00:55:11", "text": "like, \"Oh, boy. I don't know.\" And"}, {"start": "00:55:10", "end": "00:55:12", "text": ">> the Amazon."}, {"start": "00:55:11", "end": "00:55:16", "text": ">> That's what I told her, the Amazon. And"}, {"start": "00:55:12", "end": "00:55:18", "text": "I was like, Aydah, you live in a very um"}, {"start": "00:55:16", "end": "00:55:20", "text": "particular part of the world where we're"}, {"start": "00:55:18", "end": "00:55:22", "text": "one of the most advanced nations, but"}, {"start": "00:55:20", "end": "00:55:23", "text": "the world is very big"}, {"start": "00:55:22", "end": "00:55:24", "text": ">> and people live very differently"}, {"start": "00:55:23", "end": "00:55:24", "text": "everywhere."}, {"start": "00:55:24", "end": "00:55:26", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:55:24", "end": "00:55:29", "text": ">> Speaking of the Amazon, did you see the"}, {"start": "00:55:26", "end": "00:55:30", "text": "two Marines who were canoeing?"}, {"start": "00:55:29", "end": "00:55:32", "text": ">> No. No."}, {"start": "00:55:30", "end": "00:55:34", "text": ">> Dude, this was crazy. Um I can't show"}, {"start": "00:55:32", "end": "00:55:36", "text": "the clip, but the dude's filming himself"}, {"start": "00:55:34", "end": "00:55:37", "text": "and he's like bleeding out his leg and"}, {"start": "00:55:36", "end": "00:55:39", "text": "his arm and he's like filming."}, {"start": "00:55:37", "end": "00:55:40", "text": "Apparently, they were like exploring a"}, {"start": "00:55:39", "end": "00:55:43", "text": "part of the Amazon and I don't know if"}, {"start": "00:55:40", "end": "00:55:45", "text": "it was uncontacted or like minimal uh"}, {"start": "00:55:43", "end": "00:55:47", "text": "but they cla or it was pirates is what"}, {"start": "00:55:45", "end": "00:55:50", "text": "they said like Amazon. They called them"}, {"start": "00:55:47", "end": "00:55:52", "text": "pirates but apparently they looked like"}, {"start": "00:55:50", "end": "00:55:53", "text": "an easy target. No weapons. They just"}, {"start": "00:55:52", "end": "00:55:56", "text": "had paddles but they're they're"}, {"start": "00:55:53", "end": "00:55:58", "text": "literally two Marines from a different I"}, {"start": "00:55:56", "end": "00:56:00", "text": "think it was Europe or some somewhere"}, {"start": "00:55:58", "end": "00:56:02", "text": "else. Anyways, and he's like oh he's"}, {"start": "00:56:00", "end": "00:56:04", "text": "like I just got shot. He's like I had to"}, {"start": "00:56:02", "end": "00:56:05", "text": "drown one of them. He was like the rest"}, {"start": "00:56:04", "end": "00:56:07", "text": "of them fled but apparently like they"}, {"start": "00:56:05", "end": "00:56:10", "text": "got lit up. I was like, \"How is this"}, {"start": "00:56:07", "end": "00:56:11", "text": "clip just chilling on the internet? You"}, {"start": "00:56:10", "end": "00:56:12", "text": "haven't seen this. I need to look into"}, {"start": "00:56:11", "end": "00:56:13", "text": "the full story.\""}, {"start": "00:56:12", "end": "00:56:15", "text": ">> Why was his buddy filming it?"}, {"start": "00:56:13", "end": "00:56:16", "text": ">> He's filming himself. He's like, \"I've"}, {"start": "00:56:15", "end": "00:56:19", "text": "been shot.\" He's like documenting what"}, {"start": "00:56:16", "end": "00:56:21", "text": "just happened. We just got attacked. And"}, {"start": "00:56:19", "end": "00:56:23", "text": "he was like, \"But you know the story"}, {"start": "00:56:21", "end": "00:56:24", "text": "goes like they just looked like two"}, {"start": "00:56:23", "end": "00:56:26", "text": "dudes who didn't belong without weapons"}, {"start": "00:56:24", "end": "00:56:28", "text": "and turns out they're like elite"}, {"start": "00:56:26", "end": "00:56:29", "text": "military or whatever.\""}, {"start": "00:56:28", "end": "00:56:30", "text": ">> Dang, that's funny."}, {"start": "00:56:29", "end": "00:56:31", "text": ">> I could do that, too."}, {"start": "00:56:30", "end": "00:56:32", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "00:56:31", "end": "00:56:34", "text": ">> Did I say funny?"}, {"start": "00:56:32", "end": "00:56:36", "text": ">> You did."}, {"start": "00:56:34", "end": "00:56:36", "text": ">> I might say that's wild. My brain's not"}, {"start": "00:56:36", "end": "00:56:37", "text": "working."}, {"start": "00:56:36", "end": "00:56:38", "text": ">> That's so funny."}, {"start": "00:56:37", "end": "00:56:40", "text": ">> I was thinking about these chicks. Did"}, {"start": "00:56:38", "end": "00:56:43", "text": "you see the clip of the chicks that were"}, {"start": "00:56:40", "end": "00:56:44", "text": "swimming in the Amazon River? All the"}, {"start": "00:56:43", "end": "00:56:46", "text": "comments are like, \"I thought we as a"}, {"start": "00:56:44", "end": "00:56:48", "text": "collective decided that there was an"}, {"start": "00:56:46", "end": "00:56:51", "text": "unswimable body of water.\""}, {"start": "00:56:48", "end": "00:56:52", "text": ">> I saw one person swimming. Uh they like"}, {"start": "00:56:51", "end": "00:56:54", "text": "taken like an excursion. It was like in"}, {"start": "00:56:52", "end": "00:56:56", "text": "the Amazon, but it was like one of those"}, {"start": "00:56:54", "end": "00:56:58", "text": "the pink dolphins, the very scary ones,"}, {"start": "00:56:56", "end": "00:57:00", "text": "like the river dolphins. And she was"}, {"start": "00:56:58", "end": "00:57:01", "text": "just like, \"Nope.\" And she's just"}, {"start": "00:57:00", "end": "00:57:03", "text": "instantly walking out and then it pans"}, {"start": "00:57:01", "end": "00:57:03", "text": "over and it's like the scariest dolphin"}, {"start": "00:57:03", "end": "00:57:04", "text": "in the world."}, {"start": "00:57:03", "end": "00:57:06", "text": ">> Oh my gosh. It's like you think, \"Oh,"}, {"start": "00:57:04", "end": "00:57:08", "text": "I'm going to go swim with the dolphins."}, {"start": "00:57:06", "end": "00:57:09", "text": "It's going to be so cute.\" Terrifying."}, {"start": "00:57:08", "end": "00:57:10", "text": ">> Hey, hit us with that beat."}, {"start": "00:57:09", "end": "00:57:12", "text": ">> Hit us with what beat."}, {"start": "00:57:10", "end": "00:57:13", "text": ">> This beat."}, {"start": "00:57:12", "end": "00:57:15", "text": ">> Oh. Oh,"}, {"start": "00:57:13", "end": "00:57:16", "text": ">> this beat right here."}, {"start": "00:57:15", "end": "00:57:17", "text": ">> Andrew"}, {"start": "00:57:16", "end": "00:57:18", "text": ">> gota"}, {"start": "00:57:17", "end": "00:57:20", "text": ">> real."}, {"start": "00:57:18", "end": "00:57:22", "text": ">> Andrew gota"}, {"start": "00:57:20", "end": "00:57:24", "text": ">> real"}, {"start": "00:57:22", "end": "00:57:25", "text": "shadow"}, {"start": "00:57:24", "end": "00:57:26", "text": ">> right now."}, {"start": "00:57:25", "end": "00:57:30", "text": ">> Right now."}, {"start": "00:57:26", "end": "00:57:30", "text": ">> Show us."}, {"start": "00:57:31", "end": "00:57:34", "text": ">> Good song, guys. This is uh"}, {"start": "00:57:33", "end": "00:57:36", "text": ">> Oh gosh."}, {"start": "00:57:34", "end": "00:57:37", "text": ">> This is a hard one. You're gonna You've"}, {"start": "00:57:36", "end": "00:57:37", "text": "seen it."}, {"start": "00:57:37", "end": "00:57:39", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:57:37", "end": "00:57:41", "text": ">> Uh you It needs It needs audio"}, {"start": "00:57:39", "end": "00:57:42", "text": ">> here. Toss me that cord Andy or you do"}, {"start": "00:57:41", "end": "00:57:44", "text": "the chord."}, {"start": "00:57:42", "end": "00:57:48", "text": ">> I don't want to watch this."}, {"start": "00:57:44", "end": "00:57:51", "text": ">> I don't want to watch this right now."}, {"start": "00:57:48", "end": "00:57:53", "text": ">> As someone who just had a filling"}, {"start": "00:57:51", "end": "00:57:54", "text": "breakout, this was hard for me to"}, {"start": "00:57:53", "end": "00:57:56", "text": ">> You had a filling breakout."}, {"start": "00:57:54", "end": "00:57:56", "text": ">> I did. I had a"}, {"start": "00:57:56", "end": "00:57:58", "text": ">> break out"}, {"start": "00:57:56", "end": "00:58:00", "text": ">> corner of my tooth cracked off when I"}, {"start": "00:57:58", "end": "00:58:02", "text": "had a rock in my rice. Oh, there"}, {"start": "00:58:00", "end": "00:58:02", "text": ">> a rock in your Why'd you have a rock in"}, {"start": "00:58:02", "end": "00:58:04", "text": "your rice?"}, {"start": "00:58:02", "end": "00:58:08", "text": ">> Didn't wash it good enough, apparently."}, {"start": "00:58:04", "end": "00:58:10", "text": ">> Why are you chewing your rice so hard"}, {"start": "00:58:08", "end": "00:58:11", "text": "that you broke a filling when you were"}, {"start": "00:58:10", "end": "00:58:13", "text": "chewing your rice? Cuz you got to be"}, {"start": "00:58:11", "end": "00:58:15", "text": "like doing this."}, {"start": "00:58:13", "end": "00:58:17", "text": ">> All I'm"}, {"start": "00:58:15", "end": "00:58:18", "text": "You've never bent down on something and"}, {"start": "00:58:17", "end": "00:58:21", "text": "been like, \"Ow,"}, {"start": "00:58:18", "end": "00:58:23", "text": ">> not rice. Rice is a soft food. You're"}, {"start": "00:58:21", "end": "00:58:28", "text": "like this with rice."}, {"start": "00:58:23", "end": "00:58:28", "text": ">> I eat more.\" Okay."}, {"start": "00:58:28", "end": "00:58:35", "text": ">> Why are you two rice soft? All right."}, {"start": "00:58:30", "end": "00:58:35", "text": "Three, two, one."}, {"start": "00:58:36", "end": "00:58:43", "text": ">> Oh, there's no"}, {"start": "00:58:37", "end": "00:58:43", "text": ">> Oh my goodness. Why is he doing that?"}, {"start": "00:58:46", "end": "00:58:52", "text": ">> Oh."}, {"start": "00:58:49", "end": "00:58:52", "text": ">> Oh, why?"}, {"start": "00:58:54", "end": "00:58:56", "text": ">> I have no idea what's going on."}, {"start": "00:58:56", "end": "00:58:59", "text": ">> What is"}, {"start": "00:58:56", "end": "00:59:00", "text": ">> drinking somewhere? There's better ways"}, {"start": "00:58:59", "end": "00:59:02", "text": "to do that."}, {"start": "00:59:00", "end": "00:59:03", "text": ">> I don't know whe that guy."}, {"start": "00:59:02", "end": "00:59:04", "text": ">> He's trying to get stuff out of the"}, {"start": "00:59:03", "end": "00:59:04", "text": "tree."}, {"start": "00:59:04", "end": "00:59:07", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "00:59:04", "end": "00:59:09", "text": ">> Or is he sharpening his teeth?"}, {"start": "00:59:07", "end": "00:59:11", "text": ">> I don't think that"}, {"start": "00:59:09", "end": "00:59:11", "text": "cuz at the end he's like sucking on the"}, {"start": "00:59:11", "end": "00:59:13", "text": "tree."}, {"start": "00:59:11", "end": "00:59:14", "text": ">> He's blowing"}, {"start": "00:59:13", "end": "00:59:16", "text": ">> blowing. It looks like looks like a"}, {"start": "00:59:14", "end": "00:59:19", "text": "sucking."}, {"start": "00:59:16", "end": "00:59:21", "text": ">> This is crazy. That is a why. Why would"}, {"start": "00:59:19", "end": "00:59:22", "text": "he do that? Why would he do that?"}, {"start": "00:59:21", "end": "00:59:25", "text": ">> I don't know."}, {"start": "00:59:22", "end": "00:59:27", "text": ">> That is no fun at all whatsoever. Want"}, {"start": "00:59:25", "end": "00:59:28", "text": "to hear a really fast World War II"}, {"start": "00:59:27", "end": "00:59:28", "text": "story?"}, {"start": "00:59:28", "end": "00:59:30", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:59:28", "end": "00:59:33", "text": ">> Cool. Uh, during World War II, Germans"}, {"start": "00:59:30", "end": "00:59:34", "text": "built a fake wooden airfield."}, {"start": "00:59:33", "end": "00:59:36", "text": "Apparently, they were trying to seem"}, {"start": "00:59:34", "end": "00:59:38", "text": "like their operation was bigger than it"}, {"start": "00:59:36", "end": "00:59:40", "text": "was. Um, they built hangers, planes,"}, {"start": "00:59:38", "end": "00:59:43", "text": "like the whole nine. So, from the sky,"}, {"start": "00:59:40", "end": "00:59:46", "text": "it looked like, you know, a military op."}, {"start": "00:59:43", "end": "00:59:48", "text": "Apparently, uh, the opposition, the RAF,"}, {"start": "00:59:46", "end": "00:59:49", "text": "which anyone know what that is? RAF,"}, {"start": "00:59:48", "end": "00:59:49", "text": "Royal Air Force, maybe."}, {"start": "00:59:49", "end": "00:59:52", "text": ">> Yes,"}, {"start": "00:59:49", "end": "00:59:54", "text": ">> I think so. um knew about the secret"}, {"start": "00:59:52", "end": "00:59:55", "text": "project for months, let them build it,"}, {"start": "00:59:54", "end": "00:59:59", "text": "and then once they finally finished it,"}, {"start": "00:59:55", "end": "01:00:01", "text": "they dropped a wooden bomb on it."}, {"start": "00:59:59", "end": "01:00:03", "text": "There's a photo of the bomb. That's"}, {"start": "01:00:01", "end": "01:00:05", "text": "awesome. That was like, \"Congrats on all"}, {"start": "01:00:03", "end": "01:00:05", "text": "your work. We're going to completely"}, {"start": "01:00:05", "end": "01:00:06", "text": "troll it.\""}, {"start": "01:00:05", "end": "01:00:08", "text": ">> That's a gift."}, {"start": "01:00:06", "end": "01:00:08", "text": ">> They just did they just did fun stuff"}, {"start": "01:00:08", "end": "01:00:10", "text": "back then."}, {"start": "01:00:08", "end": "01:00:11", "text": ">> They did. At least"}, {"start": "01:00:10", "end": "01:00:14", "text": ">> was fun back then."}, {"start": "01:00:11", "end": "01:00:15", "text": ">> They You know what? Sure, there's some"}, {"start": "01:00:14", "end": "01:00:16", "text": "bad things, but at least they had some"}, {"start": "01:00:15", "end": "01:00:16", "text": "fun."}, {"start": "01:00:16", "end": "01:00:17", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:00:16", "end": "01:00:18", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:00:17", "end": "01:00:20", "text": ">> Absolutely."}, {"start": "01:00:18", "end": "01:00:21", "text": ">> Um speaking of not having fun though."}, {"start": "01:00:20", "end": "01:00:23", "text": "Yeah,"}, {"start": "01:00:21", "end": "01:00:23", "text": ">> the cruise."}, {"start": "01:00:23", "end": "01:00:26", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "01:00:23", "end": "01:00:28", "text": ">> Tell me about it. What's going on?"}, {"start": "01:00:26", "end": "01:00:30", "text": ">> Obviously, by the time this comes out,"}, {"start": "01:00:28", "end": "01:00:31", "text": "it'll be a very different story."}, {"start": "01:00:30", "end": "01:00:33", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "01:00:31", "end": "01:00:35", "text": ">> Hopefully not."}, {"start": "01:00:33", "end": "01:00:37", "text": ">> There's this cruise that departed from"}, {"start": "01:00:35", "end": "01:00:38", "text": "Argentina."}, {"start": "01:00:37", "end": "01:00:40", "text": ">> Argentina."}, {"start": "01:00:38", "end": "01:00:42", "text": ">> Um, and it was this How many passengers"}, {"start": "01:00:40", "end": "01:00:43", "text": "were on it? Like 300 or something."}, {"start": "01:00:42", "end": "01:00:46", "text": ">> No, less than that. Like 170."}, {"start": "01:00:43", "end": "01:00:48", "text": ">> Okay. 170 passengers. And it was"}, {"start": "01:00:46", "end": "01:00:50", "text": "basically like a world exploratory"}, {"start": "01:00:48", "end": "01:00:53", "text": "cruise. So they went to like islands off"}, {"start": "01:00:50", "end": "01:00:54", "text": "of Antarctica and they're just basically"}, {"start": "01:00:53", "end": "01:00:55", "text": "cruising around the world."}, {"start": "01:00:54", "end": "01:01:00", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:00:55", "end": "01:01:04", "text": ">> And um someone got on that ship"}, {"start": "01:01:00", "end": "01:01:06", "text": "that was carrying what is known as the"}, {"start": "01:01:04", "end": "01:01:07", "text": "Hun virus."}, {"start": "01:01:06", "end": "01:01:10", "text": ">> Oh, Hunter."}, {"start": "01:01:07", "end": "01:01:12", "text": ">> Can I stop you right there? Do we know"}, {"start": "01:01:10", "end": "01:01:15", "text": "that they had it when they got on or did"}, {"start": "01:01:12", "end": "01:01:18", "text": "they contract it while on board? The"}, {"start": "01:01:15", "end": "01:01:19", "text": "news I saw is that they found the exact"}, {"start": "01:01:18", "end": "01:01:20", "text": "location in Argentina where they"}, {"start": "01:01:19", "end": "01:01:22", "text": "contracted it."}, {"start": "01:01:20", "end": "01:01:22", "text": ">> No way. Wow."}, {"start": "01:01:22", "end": "01:01:24", "text": ">> Grounds."}, {"start": "01:01:22", "end": "01:01:29", "text": ">> Because of rat poopy."}, {"start": "01:01:24", "end": "01:01:31", "text": ">> Haunt virus is a disease from rodents."}, {"start": "01:01:29", "end": "01:01:33", "text": "And from what they're saying, the"}, {"start": "01:01:31", "end": "01:01:37", "text": "mortality rate of haunt virus is"}, {"start": "01:01:33", "end": "01:01:39", "text": "anywhere between 30 and 50%."}, {"start": "01:01:37", "end": "01:01:40", "text": "30 and 50% mortality rate."}, {"start": "01:01:39", "end": "01:01:41", "text": ">> Not good."}, {"start": "01:01:40", "end": "01:01:42", "text": ">> Nope."}, {"start": "01:01:41", "end": "01:01:45", "text": ">> Not good odds. So"}, {"start": "01:01:42", "end": "01:01:46", "text": ">> haunt for your rest of your life."}, {"start": "01:01:45", "end": "01:01:46", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:01:46", "end": "01:01:48", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:01:46", "end": "01:01:52", "text": ">> That's bubonic plague style stuff."}, {"start": "01:01:48", "end": "01:01:55", "text": ">> So they said it's very rare for haunt"}, {"start": "01:01:52", "end": "01:01:56", "text": "virus to be um"}, {"start": "01:01:55", "end": "01:01:58", "text": ">> shared."}, {"start": "01:01:56", "end": "01:01:59", "text": ">> Yeah. You can't typically contract it"}, {"start": "01:01:58", "end": "01:02:00", "text": "from person to person. It's typically"}, {"start": "01:01:59", "end": "01:02:02", "text": "from the rodent."}, {"start": "01:02:00", "end": "01:02:02", "text": ">> Okay. So it stops usually with the"}, {"start": "01:02:02", "end": "01:02:04", "text": "person."}, {"start": "01:02:02", "end": "01:02:06", "text": ">> Yeah. But it didn't."}, {"start": "01:02:04", "end": "01:02:08", "text": ">> Okay. So it's a variation"}, {"start": "01:02:06", "end": "01:02:09", "text": ">> on this cruise. It's adapting."}, {"start": "01:02:08", "end": "01:02:14", "text": ">> Three people died."}, {"start": "01:02:09", "end": "01:02:16", "text": ">> OH MY GOSH. And so what happened was"}, {"start": "01:02:14", "end": "01:02:19", "text": "they basically went to I believe it was"}, {"start": "01:02:16", "end": "01:02:20", "text": "not the Canary Islands. No, they were"}, {"start": "01:02:19", "end": "01:02:22", "text": "going to go to the Canary Islands, but"}, {"start": "01:02:20", "end": "01:02:23", "text": "they stopped at an island off the coast"}, {"start": "01:02:22", "end": "01:02:24", "text": "of Africa."}, {"start": "01:02:23", "end": "01:02:25", "text": ">> Because they're like people are dying."}, {"start": "01:02:24", "end": "01:02:27", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "01:02:25", "end": "01:02:30", "text": ">> people are dying. And people are like,"}, {"start": "01:02:27", "end": "01:02:31", "text": "\"Do not come to port. Do not come to"}, {"start": "01:02:30", "end": "01:02:32", "text": "port."}, {"start": "01:02:31", "end": "01:02:35", "text": ">> You guys are infected.\""}, {"start": "01:02:32", "end": "01:02:37", "text": ">> And there's one guy"}, {"start": "01:02:35", "end": "01:02:38", "text": ">> that's been posting social media stuff"}, {"start": "01:02:37", "end": "01:02:40", "text": "from this cruise."}, {"start": "01:02:38", "end": "01:02:41", "text": ">> One person. one person, which is that's"}, {"start": "01:02:40", "end": "01:02:42", "text": "it's weird."}, {"start": "01:02:41", "end": "01:02:44", "text": ">> The guy in the green shirt, right?"}, {"start": "01:02:42", "end": "01:02:45", "text": ">> Yes. Yes. I saw you saw that. Yeah, I"}, {"start": "01:02:44", "end": "01:02:46", "text": "saw a short video. Looked like he was"}, {"start": "01:02:45", "end": "01:02:47", "text": "reading a script."}, {"start": "01:02:46", "end": "01:02:48", "text": ">> Jake or something, right? Yeah, it did"}, {"start": "01:02:47", "end": "01:02:49", "text": "look like he was reading a script,"}, {"start": "01:02:48", "end": "01:02:50", "text": "didn't it?"}, {"start": "01:02:49", "end": "01:02:51", "text": ">> Looking off, reading and then kind"}, {"start": "01:02:50", "end": "01:02:53", "text": "looking back at the camera. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:02:51", "end": "01:02:56", "text": ">> But then it's like then he like was told"}, {"start": "01:02:53", "end": "01:02:58", "text": "that he can no longer release"}, {"start": "01:02:56", "end": "01:02:59", "text": "information or do interviews, stuff like"}, {"start": "01:02:58", "end": "01:02:59", "text": "that."}, {"start": "01:02:59", "end": "01:03:00", "text": ">> Which is weird."}, {"start": "01:02:59", "end": "01:03:01", "text": ">> Totally."}, {"start": "01:03:00", "end": "01:03:03", "text": ">> Um,"}, {"start": "01:03:01", "end": "01:03:06", "text": ">> where is he? He's from Argentina."}, {"start": "01:03:03", "end": "01:03:07", "text": ">> No, he's from I don't know the US, I"}, {"start": "01:03:06", "end": "01:03:07", "text": "think."}, {"start": "01:03:07", "end": "01:03:09", "text": ">> Right. Right."}, {"start": "01:03:07", "end": "01:03:11", "text": ">> His name is Jake."}, {"start": "01:03:09", "end": "01:03:13", "text": ">> Yeah, you asked."}, {"start": "01:03:11", "end": "01:03:13", "text": ">> People in other countries can't be named"}, {"start": "01:03:13", "end": "01:03:14", "text": "Jake."}, {"start": "01:03:13", "end": "01:03:16", "text": ">> It's very rare, I feel like."}, {"start": "01:03:14", "end": "01:03:17", "text": ">> What about England? He was like he was"}, {"start": "01:03:16", "end": "01:03:18", "text": "something."}, {"start": "01:03:17", "end": "01:03:20", "text": ">> He's British or something."}, {"start": "01:03:18", "end": "01:03:21", "text": ">> Your name is William if you're from"}, {"start": "01:03:20", "end": "01:03:23", "text": "England."}, {"start": "01:03:21", "end": "01:03:26", "text": ">> Anyways,"}, {"start": "01:03:23", "end": "01:03:28", "text": "um but these people are talking about"}, {"start": "01:03:26", "end": "01:03:30", "text": "like the news is really building up, but"}, {"start": "01:03:28", "end": "01:03:32", "text": "they're also like don't freak out. Like"}, {"start": "01:03:30", "end": "01:03:34", "text": ">> it's very rare for people to contract"}, {"start": "01:03:32", "end": "01:03:36", "text": "this, but also if you get it, you'll"}, {"start": "01:03:34", "end": "01:03:38", "text": "die."}, {"start": "01:03:36", "end": "01:03:38", "text": ">> Don't freak out. have a chance you will"}, {"start": "01:03:38", "end": "01:03:41", "text": "be dead."}, {"start": "01:03:38", "end": "01:03:42", "text": ">> Also, these countries are like, \"No, you"}, {"start": "01:03:41", "end": "01:03:44", "text": "can't port. You can't put the boat"}, {"start": "01:03:42", "end": "01:03:45", "text": "here.\" But then they're like, \"Okay, the"}, {"start": "01:03:44", "end": "01:03:47", "text": "Canary Islands, you can go there.\" And"}, {"start": "01:03:45", "end": "01:03:48", "text": "the Canary Islands are like, they said"}, {"start": "01:03:47", "end": "01:03:49", "text": "they said, \"No.\""}, {"start": "01:03:48", "end": "01:03:51", "text": ">> Yeah. Why us?"}, {"start": "01:03:49", "end": "01:03:51", "text": ">> I'm sorry. No, you are not allowed to do"}, {"start": "01:03:51", "end": "01:03:54", "text": "that."}, {"start": "01:03:51", "end": "01:03:56", "text": ">> And I think they're they ended up being"}, {"start": "01:03:54", "end": "01:03:58", "text": "able to go to Spain,"}, {"start": "01:03:56", "end": "01:04:00", "text": ">> I believe,"}, {"start": "01:03:58", "end": "01:04:03", "text": ">> undocked. And so people that were on it,"}, {"start": "01:04:00", "end": "01:04:05", "text": "they dispersed. They all flew home."}, {"start": "01:04:03", "end": "01:04:06", "text": ">> But they first brought the diseased"}, {"start": "01:04:05", "end": "01:04:09", "text": "ones."}, {"start": "01:04:06", "end": "01:04:11", "text": "the ones that had the disease that had"}, {"start": "01:04:09", "end": "01:04:13", "text": "not died yet. Yeah. I think they brought"}, {"start": "01:04:11", "end": "01:04:14", "text": "them to Germany and stuff."}, {"start": "01:04:13", "end": "01:04:16", "text": ">> Uhhuh."}, {"start": "01:04:14", "end": "01:04:18", "text": ">> And like I mean these dudes are in like"}, {"start": "01:04:16", "end": "01:04:20", "text": "hazmat suits and it's like well if it's"}, {"start": "01:04:18", "end": "01:04:22", "text": "not that scary why are we why don't we"}, {"start": "01:04:20", "end": "01:04:22", "text": ">> Well, it's probably like a new variation"}, {"start": "01:04:22", "end": "01:04:23", "text": "like what?"}, {"start": "01:04:22", "end": "01:04:24", "text": ">> Well that's what they're saying. There's"}, {"start": "01:04:23", "end": "01:04:25", "text": "no cure for it."}, {"start": "01:04:24", "end": "01:04:26", "text": ">> Yeah. There's no cure. There's no"}, {"start": "01:04:25", "end": "01:04:27", "text": "vaccine. There's no"}, {"start": "01:04:26", "end": "01:04:28", "text": ">> So it's a coin flip whether you're going"}, {"start": "01:04:27", "end": "01:04:28", "text": "to die or not. There's nothing we can do"}, {"start": "01:04:28", "end": "01:04:31", "text": "about it,"}, {"start": "01:04:28", "end": "01:04:32", "text": ">> right? And it starts the problem with"}, {"start": "01:04:31", "end": "01:04:34", "text": "sending these people all over the world"}, {"start": "01:04:32", "end": "01:04:37", "text": "is that it takes like 10 days to"}, {"start": "01:04:34", "end": "01:04:38", "text": "incubate. So you can have it and not"}, {"start": "01:04:37", "end": "01:04:40", "text": "know for like 10 days."}, {"start": "01:04:38", "end": "01:04:42", "text": ">> Yeah, it's dormant for a while"}, {"start": "01:04:40", "end": "01:04:44", "text": ">> and then um it's like a pulmonary thing"}, {"start": "01:04:42", "end": "01:04:47", "text": "and then you start throwing up and"}, {"start": "01:04:44", "end": "01:04:48", "text": "basically your lungs fill with fluid."}, {"start": "01:04:47", "end": "01:04:50", "text": ">> So you're drowning to death."}, {"start": "01:04:48", "end": "01:04:52", "text": ">> You're drowning and you go into shock."}, {"start": "01:04:50", "end": "01:04:54", "text": ">> Oh my goodness."}, {"start": "01:04:52", "end": "01:04:55", "text": ">> And then you die."}, {"start": "01:04:54", "end": "01:04:57", "text": ">> That's not fun."}, {"start": "01:04:55", "end": "01:04:59", "text": ">> So this is not one that I'm particularly"}, {"start": "01:04:57", "end": "01:05:00", "text": "interested in catching"}, {"start": "01:04:59", "end": "01:05:01", "text": ">> of all the viruses."}, {"start": "01:05:00", "end": "01:05:03", "text": ">> It's reminding me a lot of the movie"}, {"start": "01:05:01", "end": "01:05:06", "text": "Contagion. You remember that movie with"}, {"start": "01:05:03", "end": "01:05:07", "text": ">> Yeah. What's your face? Your crush, Kate"}, {"start": "01:05:06", "end": "01:05:08", "text": "Winslett."}, {"start": "01:05:07", "end": "01:05:10", "text": ">> My crush?"}, {"start": "01:05:08", "end": "01:05:11", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "01:05:10", "end": "01:05:12", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "01:05:11", "end": "01:05:13", "text": ">> You got a lot of crushes you were just"}, {"start": "01:05:12", "end": "01:05:14", "text": "telling me about."}, {"start": "01:05:13", "end": "01:05:17", "text": ">> Dude, you want to hear about case one"}, {"start": "01:05:14", "end": "01:05:17", "text": "and case two, people who passed away?"}, {"start": "01:05:17", "end": "01:05:19", "text": ">> Sure."}, {"start": "01:05:17", "end": "01:05:21", "text": ">> This is on the World Health"}, {"start": "01:05:19", "end": "01:05:21", "text": "Organization's website. Take it as you"}, {"start": "01:05:21", "end": "01:05:22", "text": "will."}, {"start": "01:05:21", "end": "01:05:25", "text": ">> Who?"}, {"start": "01:05:22", "end": "01:05:26", "text": ">> Who? Uh, case one, adult male developed"}, {"start": "01:05:25", "end": "01:05:28", "text": "symptoms of fever and headache and mild"}, {"start": "01:05:26", "end": "01:05:30", "text": "diarrhea on April 6th while on board the"}, {"start": "01:05:28", "end": "01:05:33", "text": "ship. April 11th, it developed to"}, {"start": "01:05:30", "end": "01:05:35", "text": "respiratory distress and they died on"}, {"start": "01:05:33", "end": "01:05:36", "text": "board the same day. No microbiological"}, {"start": "01:05:35", "end": "01:05:39", "text": "tests were performed. The body of the"}, {"start": "01:05:36", "end": "01:05:41", "text": "passenger was removed from the vessel to"}, {"start": "01:05:39", "end": "01:05:44", "text": "St. Helena, which is a British overseas"}, {"start": "01:05:41", "end": "01:05:46", "text": "territory on the 24th. This is where it"}, {"start": "01:05:44", "end": "01:05:48", "text": "gets interesting. Case 2, an adult"}, {"start": "01:05:46", "end": "01:05:50", "text": "female who was in close contact with"}, {"start": "01:05:48", "end": "01:05:53", "text": "case one went ashore at St. Helena on"}, {"start": "01:05:50", "end": "01:05:55", "text": "April 24th with gastrointestinal"}, {"start": "01:05:53", "end": "01:05:58", "text": "symptoms. She subsequently deteriorated"}, {"start": "01:05:55", "end": "01:06:01", "text": "during a flight to Johannesburg, South"}, {"start": "01:05:58", "end": "01:06:03", "text": "Africa on the 25th of April. She later"}, {"start": "01:06:01", "end": "01:06:06", "text": "died upon arrival at the emergency"}, {"start": "01:06:03", "end": "01:06:09", "text": "department on the 26th. On May 4th, the"}, {"start": "01:06:06", "end": "01:06:12", "text": "case was subsequently confirmed by PCR"}, {"start": "01:06:09", "end": "01:06:14", "text": "with antivirus infection. Contact"}, {"start": "01:06:12", "end": "01:06:17", "text": "tracing for passengers on the flight has"}, {"start": "01:06:14", "end": "01:06:19", "text": "been initiated."}, {"start": "01:06:17", "end": "01:06:21", "text": ">> It's gone. It's spread, baby. Dude, did"}, {"start": "01:06:19", "end": "01:06:23", "text": "you ever do that project in like the"}, {"start": "01:06:21", "end": "01:06:26", "text": "fourth grade where it's chalera in"}, {"start": "01:06:23", "end": "01:06:28", "text": "England and you have to trace back who"}, {"start": "01:06:26", "end": "01:06:31", "text": "had it first or like where it came from"}, {"start": "01:06:28", "end": "01:06:33", "text": "to stop the spread of disease. Fun, by"}, {"start": "01:06:31", "end": "01:06:35", "text": "the way. It's a lot like these murder"}, {"start": "01:06:33", "end": "01:06:35", "text": "mystery things where it's like so like"}, {"start": "01:06:35", "end": "01:06:36", "text": "who done it."}, {"start": "01:06:35", "end": "01:06:37", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:06:36", "end": "01:06:38", "text": ">> Who got everybody sick?"}, {"start": "01:06:37", "end": "01:06:40", "text": ">> Interesting."}, {"start": "01:06:38", "end": "01:06:41", "text": ">> Uh and it was the water was poisoned"}, {"start": "01:06:40", "end": "01:06:42", "text": ">> because a rat fell in the water."}, {"start": "01:06:41", "end": "01:06:43", "text": ">> Oh, gross."}, {"start": "01:06:42", "end": "01:06:44", "text": ">> Took us like two weeks to get through"}, {"start": "01:06:43", "end": "01:06:46", "text": "this thing."}, {"start": "01:06:44", "end": "01:06:48", "text": ">> Here's a here's a fun thing."}, {"start": "01:06:46", "end": "01:06:50", "text": ">> Yeah. talking about demons prophesying."}, {"start": "01:06:48", "end": "01:06:50", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "01:06:50", "end": "01:06:51", "text": ">> Um,"}, {"start": "01:06:50", "end": "01:06:55", "text": ">> wait, but go back."}, {"start": "01:06:51", "end": "01:06:56", "text": ">> No, this is still in the Could you just"}, {"start": "01:06:55", "end": "01:06:59", "text": ">> I'm I'm listening."}, {"start": "01:06:56", "end": "01:07:00", "text": ">> Just listen."}, {"start": "01:06:59", "end": "01:07:03", "text": ">> There's someone on X"}, {"start": "01:07:00", "end": "01:07:04", "text": ">> that goes by Soothsayer."}, {"start": "01:07:03", "end": "01:07:08", "text": ">> Uhhuh."}, {"start": "01:07:04", "end": "01:07:09", "text": ">> Their handle is I am a soothsayer."}, {"start": "01:07:08", "end": "01:07:12", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "01:07:09", "end": "01:07:13", "text": ">> Um, they have four posts on their ex"}, {"start": "01:07:12", "end": "01:07:14", "text": "account."}, {"start": "01:07:13", "end": "01:07:18", "text": ">> Mhm. colleague"}, {"start": "01:07:14", "end": "01:07:20", "text": ">> their uh third post on exac account was"}, {"start": "01:07:18", "end": "01:07:24", "text": "they're all posted within"}, {"start": "01:07:20", "end": "01:07:29", "text": "seven days in 2022."}, {"start": "01:07:24", "end": "01:07:32", "text": "Um but his third post posted uh June"}, {"start": "01:07:29", "end": "01:07:35", "text": "11th 2022"}, {"start": "01:07:32", "end": "01:07:37", "text": "all he said was 2023"}, {"start": "01:07:35", "end": "01:07:39", "text": "Corona ended"}, {"start": "01:07:37", "end": "01:07:42", "text": "2026 hivirus."}, {"start": "01:07:39", "end": "01:07:43", "text": ">> Shut up right now. When did he post"}, {"start": "01:07:42", "end": "01:07:47", "text": "that?"}, {"start": "01:07:43", "end": "01:07:47", "text": "again. 2022."}, {"start": "01:07:47", "end": "01:07:50", "text": ">> Oh no."}, {"start": "01:07:50", "end": "01:07:55", "text": ">> So that's weird."}, {"start": "01:07:53", "end": "01:07:57", "text": ">> That is very strange. I'm looking up on"}, {"start": "01:07:55", "end": "01:08:01", "text": "Google Trends to see whenever"}, {"start": "01:07:57", "end": "01:08:02", "text": ">> virus started trending."}, {"start": "01:08:01", "end": "01:08:04", "text": ">> That's weird. Weird."}, {"start": "01:08:02", "end": "01:08:05", "text": ">> Yeah, I hate that."}, {"start": "01:08:04", "end": "01:08:06", "text": ">> Uh"}, {"start": "01:08:05", "end": "01:08:08", "text": ">> rats and ticks, dude."}, {"start": "01:08:06", "end": "01:08:13", "text": ">> Rats and ticks. But there was this one"}, {"start": "01:08:08", "end": "01:08:15", "text": "lady that uh Lily and I saw on Take a"}, {"start": "01:08:13", "end": "01:08:19", "text": "Duck and she's under the impression that"}, {"start": "01:08:15", "end": "01:08:22", "text": "this is all a manufactured scripted"}, {"start": "01:08:19", "end": "01:08:23", "text": "new Corona virus thing with the way that"}, {"start": "01:08:22", "end": "01:08:24", "text": "they're setting up the platform."}, {"start": "01:08:23", "end": "01:08:26", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "01:08:24", "end": "01:08:31", "text": ">> Yeah. She's the same one that um"}, {"start": "01:08:26", "end": "01:08:33", "text": "connected the ICE detention centers with"}, {"start": "01:08:31", "end": "01:08:35", "text": "um experimental."}, {"start": "01:08:33", "end": "01:08:36", "text": ">> Oh, really?"}, {"start": "01:08:35", "end": "01:08:38", "text": ">> She's very articulate. She's a really"}, {"start": "01:08:36", "end": "01:08:39", "text": "good researcher, by the way. She should"}, {"start": "01:08:38", "end": "01:08:42", "text": "be I mean like I think she's making a"}, {"start": "01:08:39", "end": "01:08:43", "text": "killing on her platforms, but like she"}, {"start": "01:08:42", "end": "01:08:45", "text": "should go into like law enforcement or"}, {"start": "01:08:43", "end": "01:08:48", "text": "something."}, {"start": "01:08:45", "end": "01:08:49", "text": ">> Um, so yeah, what are we going to do"}, {"start": "01:08:48", "end": "01:08:51", "text": "with that?"}, {"start": "01:08:49", "end": "01:08:53", "text": ">> We'll come up with a a cure."}, {"start": "01:08:51", "end": "01:08:55", "text": ">> All right."}, {"start": "01:08:53", "end": "01:08:56", "text": ">> You think AI I mean I I'm curious to"}, {"start": "01:08:55", "end": "01:08:57", "text": "know what AI is doing in the medical"}, {"start": "01:08:56", "end": "01:08:58", "text": "field."}, {"start": "01:08:57", "end": "01:09:00", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:08:58", "end": "01:09:00", "text": ">> Like you think we could be solving a ton"}, {"start": "01:09:00", "end": "01:09:02", "text": "of stuff."}, {"start": "01:09:00", "end": "01:09:03", "text": ">> They probably already figured it out,"}, {"start": "01:09:02", "end": "01:09:05", "text": "but then you got big pharma. They're"}, {"start": "01:09:03", "end": "01:09:07", "text": "like, \"No, you can't you can't post that"}, {"start": "01:09:05", "end": "01:09:07", "text": "stuff yet.\" That's what makes you"}, {"start": "01:09:07", "end": "01:09:09", "text": "wonder."}, {"start": "01:09:07", "end": "01:09:11", "text": ">> I want you guys to know that I was at"}, {"start": "01:09:09", "end": "01:09:14", "text": "like the first half of the show really"}, {"start": "01:09:11", "end": "01:09:16", "text": "at peace. This that was good. I'm now"}, {"start": "01:09:14", "end": "01:09:18", "text": "full panicked."}, {"start": "01:09:16", "end": "01:09:18", "text": ">> It's a deception though. Your your panic"}, {"start": "01:09:18", "end": "01:09:20", "text": "is a deception."}, {"start": "01:09:18", "end": "01:09:22", "text": ">> I'm not scared for me. I'm scared for my"}, {"start": "01:09:20", "end": "01:09:23", "text": "girls."}, {"start": "01:09:22", "end": "01:09:25", "text": ">> You're raising warriors."}, {"start": "01:09:23", "end": "01:09:27", "text": ">> Janie has weak lungs."}, {"start": "01:09:25", "end": "01:09:28", "text": "This is a lung disease."}, {"start": "01:09:27", "end": "01:09:30", "text": ">> Yep."}, {"start": "01:09:28", "end": "01:09:32", "text": ">> You're raising warriors."}, {"start": "01:09:30", "end": "01:09:33", "text": ">> But Janie has a strong spirit. M"}, {"start": "01:09:32", "end": "01:09:35", "text": ">> I don't want her to hear this and think"}, {"start": "01:09:33", "end": "01:09:36", "text": "that I think she has weak lungs. She"}, {"start": "01:09:35", "end": "01:09:37", "text": "does have weak lungs."}, {"start": "01:09:36", "end": "01:09:38", "text": ">> She's going to listen to this 20 years"}, {"start": "01:09:37", "end": "01:09:39", "text": "from now. Thought I had weak lungs."}, {"start": "01:09:38", "end": "01:09:41", "text": ">> What the heck, mom?"}, {"start": "01:09:39", "end": "01:09:42", "text": ">> She becomes an ultramarathoner"}, {"start": "01:09:41", "end": "01:09:45", "text": "just to prove you wrong."}, {"start": "01:09:42", "end": "01:09:46", "text": ">> Um so are they setting the stage for"}, {"start": "01:09:45", "end": "01:09:47", "text": "another outbreak?"}, {"start": "01:09:46", "end": "01:09:49", "text": ">> I don't think so."}, {"start": "01:09:47", "end": "01:09:52", "text": ">> That is a little I mean why wouldn't"}, {"start": "01:09:49", "end": "01:09:56", "text": "they though? Like why wouldn't they like"}, {"start": "01:09:52", "end": "01:09:58", "text": ">> cuz co was just like mortality rate was"}, {"start": "01:09:56", "end": "01:10:00", "text": "very small. Mhm."}, {"start": "01:09:58", "end": "01:10:02", "text": ">> I will say, you know, that right now the"}, {"start": "01:10:00", "end": "01:10:03", "text": "scientists are doing boop boop boop boop"}, {"start": "01:10:02", "end": "01:10:05", "text": "boop. With all the news lines going out,"}, {"start": "01:10:03", "end": "01:10:06", "text": "they're figuring out this antivirus"}, {"start": "01:10:05", "end": "01:10:08", "text": "cure."}, {"start": "01:10:06", "end": "01:10:11", "text": ">> Sure. But is it going to be a"}, {"start": "01:10:08", "end": "01:10:12", "text": ">> is it going to be like another forced"}, {"start": "01:10:11", "end": "01:10:13", "text": ">> vaccination thing?"}, {"start": "01:10:12", "end": "01:10:15", "text": ">> I might take this one,"}, {"start": "01:10:13", "end": "01:10:17", "text": ">> dude. We all got to get we all got to"}, {"start": "01:10:15", "end": "01:10:19", "text": "get blow dart guns because if there's a"}, {"start": "01:10:17", "end": "01:10:19", "text": "rat infestation,"}, {"start": "01:10:19", "end": "01:10:21", "text": "could be fun."}, {"start": "01:10:19", "end": "01:10:21", "text": ">> We get really good at slingshots."}, {"start": "01:10:21", "end": "01:10:24", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:10:21", "end": "01:10:25", "text": ">> I don't know where my slingshot went."}, {"start": "01:10:24", "end": "01:10:26", "text": ">> You gave me a slingshot. I don't know"}, {"start": "01:10:25", "end": "01:10:26", "text": "where it went."}, {"start": "01:10:26", "end": "01:10:27", "text": ">> Dang."}, {"start": "01:10:26", "end": "01:10:30", "text": ">> Can't find it. Yeah,"}, {"start": "01:10:27", "end": "01:10:32", "text": ">> I really want to get good at it now. Um,"}, {"start": "01:10:30", "end": "01:10:34", "text": "it makes you wonder like if you know"}, {"start": "01:10:32", "end": "01:10:35", "text": "like think of like the UFO like the fake"}, {"start": "01:10:34", "end": "01:10:38", "text": "alien attack and stuff like that. It's"}, {"start": "01:10:35", "end": "01:10:39", "text": "like they released some type of virus"}, {"start": "01:10:38", "end": "01:10:42", "text": "out there."}, {"start": "01:10:39", "end": "01:10:44", "text": ">> Yeah, this haunt. It's not haunt virus."}, {"start": "01:10:42", "end": "01:10:47", "text": ">> It's from another It's from an asteroid"}, {"start": "01:10:44", "end": "01:10:48", "text": ">> and the aliens are coming for the to"}, {"start": "01:10:47", "end": "01:10:50", "text": "give us the cure. Y"}, {"start": "01:10:48", "end": "01:10:50", "text": ">> so take this injection."}, {"start": "01:10:50", "end": "01:10:51", "text": ">> All right."}, {"start": "01:10:50", "end": "01:10:52", "text": ">> Who is it?"}, {"start": "01:10:51", "end": "01:10:53", "text": ">> Lily."}, {"start": "01:10:52", "end": "01:10:54", "text": ">> No,"}, {"start": "01:10:53", "end": "01:10:56", "text": ">> I don't want to catch this."}, {"start": "01:10:54", "end": "01:10:58", "text": ">> Li, it's it's not real. There are a few"}, {"start": "01:10:56", "end": "01:11:01", "text": "things that I would"}, {"start": "01:10:58", "end": "01:11:03", "text": ">> I would inoculate against Ebola."}, {"start": "01:11:01", "end": "01:11:05", "text": ">> This I got you, Josh."}, {"start": "01:11:03", "end": "01:11:07", "text": ">> But they got to be tested."}, {"start": "01:11:05", "end": "01:11:11", "text": ">> Have you Who was it that just filed a"}, {"start": "01:11:07", "end": "01:11:13", "text": "patent um with the use of frequency? 5G"}, {"start": "01:11:11", "end": "01:11:16", "text": "is the argument where they can actually"}, {"start": "01:11:13", "end": "01:11:17", "text": "biologically activate cells. I forget"}, {"start": "01:11:16", "end": "01:11:18", "text": "the owner of this patent."}, {"start": "01:11:17", "end": "01:11:20", "text": ">> Oh,"}, {"start": "01:11:18", "end": "01:11:22", "text": ">> I looked into it. I just can't remember"}, {"start": "01:11:20", "end": "01:11:24", "text": "who it is. I can insert it later. I'll"}, {"start": "01:11:22", "end": "01:11:26", "text": "just put it up on the screen. So"}, {"start": "01:11:24", "end": "01:11:28", "text": "basically what happens is these cells"}, {"start": "01:11:26", "end": "01:11:30", "text": "are carriers and they figured out that"}, {"start": "01:11:28", "end": "01:11:33", "text": "you can use frequency to shed the"}, {"start": "01:11:30", "end": "01:11:36", "text": "exterior layer. So if you had something"}, {"start": "01:11:33", "end": "01:11:39", "text": "injected into you, they could activate"}, {"start": "01:11:36", "end": "01:11:41", "text": "it biologically change your structure or"}, {"start": "01:11:39", "end": "01:11:44", "text": "something within your system by use of"}, {"start": "01:11:41", "end": "01:11:46", "text": "frequency. So you could be a carrier of"}, {"start": "01:11:44", "end": "01:11:47", "text": "this unknown thing. It is a protein."}, {"start": "01:11:46", "end": "01:11:50", "text": "It's I looked it up. It's not the same"}, {"start": "01:11:47", "end": "01:11:51", "text": "spike protein that we had a few years"}, {"start": "01:11:50", "end": "01:11:52", "text": "ago. I'm trying to avoid buzzwords, but"}, {"start": "01:11:51", "end": "01:11:54", "text": ">> the haunt virus."}, {"start": "01:11:52", "end": "01:11:56", "text": ">> No, no, no, no, no. But the"}, {"start": "01:11:54", "end": "01:11:56", "text": ">> No, no, the other one that like shut"}, {"start": "01:11:56", "end": "01:11:58", "text": "everything down."}, {"start": "01:11:56", "end": "01:12:00", "text": ">> Yeah, I know. But I'm You're saying the"}, {"start": "01:11:58", "end": "01:12:01", "text": "the haunt virus has a protein or"}, {"start": "01:12:00", "end": "01:12:02", "text": "whatever."}, {"start": "01:12:01", "end": "01:12:04", "text": ">> I'm not talking about haunt virus at"}, {"start": "01:12:02", "end": "01:12:07", "text": "all. I'm just saying that the frequency"}, {"start": "01:12:04", "end": "01:12:09", "text": "with an injectable biological thing. So"}, {"start": "01:12:07", "end": "01:12:11", "text": "whatever whether it's you know the"}, {"start": "01:12:09", "end": "01:12:14", "text": "what's the tick one whether it's ticks"}, {"start": "01:12:11", "end": "01:12:15", "text": "or Yeah. Or no, the other one the the"}, {"start": "01:12:14", "end": "01:12:16", "text": "one that does meat."}, {"start": "01:12:15", "end": "01:12:17", "text": ">> Oh yeah, whatever."}, {"start": "01:12:16", "end": "01:12:19", "text": ">> It's a weird name."}, {"start": "01:12:17", "end": "01:12:20", "text": ">> Whatever. Alpha Gal."}, {"start": "01:12:19", "end": "01:12:23", "text": ">> Yeah, Alpha Gal. what whatever they're"}, {"start": "01:12:20", "end": "01:12:27", "text": "staging cuz it's just easy to hate on"}, {"start": "01:12:23", "end": "01:12:30", "text": "that. Um, but whatever they're staging,"}, {"start": "01:12:27", "end": "01:12:32", "text": "they now have the tech to where they can"}, {"start": "01:12:30", "end": "01:12:34", "text": "put something in you where the frequency"}, {"start": "01:12:32", "end": "01:12:36", "text": "sheds the outer layer. And so literally"}, {"start": "01:12:34", "end": "01:12:38", "text": "dormant carriers can exist in your"}, {"start": "01:12:36", "end": "01:12:41", "text": "system. The patent has just been filed."}, {"start": "01:12:38", "end": "01:12:43", "text": "And so that patent got filed and then"}, {"start": "01:12:41", "end": "01:12:44", "text": "this is this is like such a trust me bro"}, {"start": "01:12:43", "end": "01:12:47", "text": "segment because I'm really forgetting"}, {"start": "01:12:44", "end": "01:12:49", "text": "everything. But then they did there's a"}, {"start": "01:12:47", "end": "01:12:51", "text": "they they released more patent"}, {"start": "01:12:49", "end": "01:12:53", "text": "information on AirPods and what they're"}, {"start": "01:12:51", "end": "01:12:56", "text": "able to do with them. Like they actually"}, {"start": "01:12:53", "end": "01:12:58", "text": "map like electrodes. Um this like"}, {"start": "01:12:56", "end": "01:12:58", "text": "literally it's better than having your"}, {"start": "01:12:58", "end": "01:13:00", "text": "brain"}, {"start": "01:12:58", "end": "01:13:02", "text": ">> hooked up with all the things with all"}, {"start": "01:13:00", "end": "01:13:04", "text": "the sensors. The fact that they like the"}, {"start": "01:13:02", "end": "01:13:06", "text": "the amount of intel that they take in,"}, {"start": "01:13:04", "end": "01:13:07", "text": "but a patent just got filed with them,"}, {"start": "01:13:06", "end": "01:13:09", "text": "too. So they're literally tracking all"}, {"start": "01:13:07", "end": "01:13:09", "text": "your biometrics just by wearing AirPods"}, {"start": "01:13:09", "end": "01:13:11", "text": "now."}, {"start": "01:13:09", "end": "01:13:14", "text": ">> Creepy. That patent got filed."}, {"start": "01:13:11", "end": "01:13:16", "text": ">> AirPods are bad. Apparently like wired"}, {"start": "01:13:14", "end": "01:13:17", "text": "headphones are like on the rise for the"}, {"start": "01:13:16", "end": "01:13:17", "text": "first time in like 10 years. Did you"}, {"start": "01:13:17", "end": "01:13:18", "text": "see?"}, {"start": "01:13:17", "end": "01:13:19", "text": ">> I use wired headphones."}, {"start": "01:13:18", "end": "01:13:21", "text": ">> I saw that segment and they're like,"}, {"start": "01:13:19", "end": "01:13:22", "text": "\"Oh, because they're just everyone wants"}, {"start": "01:13:21", "end": "01:13:24", "text": "to be nostalgic.\" I said, \"No, probably"}, {"start": "01:13:22", "end": "01:13:26", "text": "because people are like, I don't want to"}, {"start": "01:13:24", "end": "01:13:28", "text": "stuff a radioactive Bluetooth thing in"}, {"start": "01:13:26", "end": "01:13:31", "text": "my brain.\" Yeah. Yeah,"}, {"start": "01:13:28", "end": "01:13:32", "text": ">> dude. I said the other day or it's"}, {"start": "01:13:31", "end": "01:13:33", "text": "always been said that the guy that"}, {"start": "01:13:32", "end": "01:13:34", "text": "invented Bluetooth doesn't even use"}, {"start": "01:13:33", "end": "01:13:36", "text": "Bluetooth headphones. And all these"}, {"start": "01:13:34", "end": "01:13:37", "text": "comments were like, \"That's false."}, {"start": "01:13:36", "end": "01:13:38", "text": "That's not true. Bluetooth doesn't do"}, {"start": "01:13:37", "end": "01:13:39", "text": "anything to you.\" It's like, \"What do"}, {"start": "01:13:38", "end": "01:13:41", "text": "you think it's doing, though? It's"}, {"start": "01:13:39", "end": "01:13:42", "text": "literally stuff passing through your"}, {"start": "01:13:41", "end": "01:13:44", "text": "noggin, dude. You're dome.\" Yeah. It's"}, {"start": "01:13:42", "end": "01:13:46", "text": "not It can't be good for you. No."}, {"start": "01:13:44", "end": "01:13:48", "text": ">> Whether it's, you know, like"}, {"start": "01:13:46", "end": "01:13:49", "text": ">> it's got to have some type of negative"}, {"start": "01:13:48", "end": "01:13:51", "text": "effect. It has to be."}, {"start": "01:13:49", "end": "01:13:52", "text": ">> Speaking of stuff that's not good for"}, {"start": "01:13:51", "end": "01:13:53", "text": "you."}, {"start": "01:13:52", "end": "01:13:56", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "01:13:53", "end": "01:13:58", "text": ">> I have been feeding my children organic"}, {"start": "01:13:56", "end": "01:13:59", "text": "strawberries since they were infants."}, {"start": "01:13:58", "end": "01:14:02", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "01:13:59", "end": "01:14:02", "text": ">> Driscoll organic strawberries."}, {"start": "01:14:02", "end": "01:14:04", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:14:02", "end": "01:14:05", "text": ">> Because in the offseason, that's the"}, {"start": "01:14:04", "end": "01:14:07", "text": "only people that's making them."}, {"start": "01:14:05", "end": "01:14:10", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "01:14:07", "end": "01:14:12", "text": ">> 12 different types of pesticides. It's"}, {"start": "01:14:10", "end": "01:14:13", "text": "literally that area. Driscoll Farms"}, {"start": "01:14:12", "end": "01:14:17", "text": ">> in California."}, {"start": "01:14:13", "end": "01:14:19", "text": ">> In California, it has a 35% increased"}, {"start": "01:14:17", "end": "01:14:20", "text": "rate of childhood cancer."}, {"start": "01:14:19", "end": "01:14:23", "text": ">> Holy crap."}, {"start": "01:14:20", "end": "01:14:25", "text": ">> Driscoll strawberries. Organic."}, {"start": "01:14:23", "end": "01:14:26", "text": ">> There's no such thing as organic."}, {"start": "01:14:25", "end": "01:14:27", "text": ">> In America,"}, {"start": "01:14:26", "end": "01:14:27", "text": ">> there's no such thing as organic in"}, {"start": "01:14:27", "end": "01:14:28", "text": "America."}, {"start": "01:14:27", "end": "01:14:29", "text": ">> There's no such thing."}, {"start": "01:14:28", "end": "01:14:32", "text": ">> Like even if like it might be a little"}, {"start": "01:14:29", "end": "01:14:34", "text": "bit more organic, like you know, like"}, {"start": "01:14:32", "end": "01:14:35", "text": "you can grow in your backyard, but still"}, {"start": "01:14:34", "end": "01:14:36", "text": "then you're talking about all the"}, {"start": "01:14:35", "end": "01:14:38", "text": "fertilizer, the stuff that's in the"}, {"start": "01:14:36", "end": "01:14:39", "text": "ground. You talk like, you know, the"}, {"start": "01:14:38", "end": "01:14:41", "text": "cows and what they're eating, whatever."}, {"start": "01:14:39", "end": "01:14:42", "text": "It's like you can get a little more"}, {"start": "01:14:41", "end": "01:14:43", "text": "organic, but there's no such thing as"}, {"start": "01:14:42", "end": "01:14:44", "text": "organic even,"}, {"start": "01:14:43", "end": "01:14:46", "text": ">> dude. Like even if you grow it at home,"}, {"start": "01:14:44", "end": "01:14:48", "text": "like what you're saying,"}, {"start": "01:14:46", "end": "01:14:48", "text": ">> it's all been treated Yeah. with"}, {"start": "01:14:48", "end": "01:14:49", "text": "garbage."}, {"start": "01:14:48", "end": "01:14:50", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:14:49", "end": "01:14:52", "text": ">> And"}, {"start": "01:14:50", "end": "01:14:56", "text": ">> even the corn in my corn feeders, the"}, {"start": "01:14:52", "end": "01:14:58", "text": "meat's not completely perfect."}, {"start": "01:14:56", "end": "01:15:00", "text": ">> I'm in a tizzy, you guys."}, {"start": "01:14:58", "end": "01:15:02", "text": ">> It's Yeah, it's nuts. We say it's wild."}, {"start": "01:15:00", "end": "01:15:03", "text": ">> Like literally Jesus, come back right"}, {"start": "01:15:02", "end": "01:15:05", "text": "now. But then we also we also get so"}, {"start": "01:15:03", "end": "01:15:08", "text": "worried about all that stuff. And then"}, {"start": "01:15:05", "end": "01:15:11", "text": "like my uh my mom's dad"}, {"start": "01:15:08", "end": "01:15:13", "text": ">> like ate a bologn sandwich on Wonder"}, {"start": "01:15:11", "end": "01:15:15", "text": "White bread with a Pepsi and a bag of"}, {"start": "01:15:13", "end": "01:15:16", "text": "Lays for lunch every day of his freaking"}, {"start": "01:15:15", "end": "01:15:18", "text": "life and he lived over 80."}, {"start": "01:15:16", "end": "01:15:20", "text": ">> Yeah, that's crazy. That's like my"}, {"start": "01:15:18", "end": "01:15:22", "text": "grandfather. Yeah, my my aunt says that"}, {"start": "01:15:20", "end": "01:15:23", "text": "my grandfather Voldemort came to get him"}, {"start": "01:15:22", "end": "01:15:25", "text": "that he just evaporated."}, {"start": "01:15:23", "end": "01:15:26", "text": ">> But that's the thing. It's like it"}, {"start": "01:15:25", "end": "01:15:28", "text": "doesn't matter like I don't I don't"}, {"start": "01:15:26", "end": "01:15:29", "text": "think longevity in life is the goal."}, {"start": "01:15:28", "end": "01:15:30", "text": "It's just like we don't want to be"}, {"start": "01:15:29", "end": "01:15:33", "text": "poisoned."}, {"start": "01:15:30", "end": "01:15:36", "text": ">> No. Yeah. or like sick or given junk"}, {"start": "01:15:33", "end": "01:15:36", "text": "that we don't want to eat. Don't lie to"}, {"start": "01:15:36", "end": "01:15:37", "text": "us."}, {"start": "01:15:36", "end": "01:15:39", "text": ">> Yeah. If I'm paying for organic"}, {"start": "01:15:37", "end": "01:15:41", "text": "strawberries, I don't want it to have"}, {"start": "01:15:39", "end": "01:15:42", "text": "garbage on it."}, {"start": "01:15:41", "end": "01:15:45", "text": ">> And it's just impossible to trust"}, {"start": "01:15:42", "end": "01:15:46", "text": "anything. I do think that it's better if"}, {"start": "01:15:45", "end": "01:15:48", "text": "you grow your own stuff because at least"}, {"start": "01:15:46", "end": "01:15:49", "text": "it's not getting sprayed with garbage."}, {"start": "01:15:48", "end": "01:15:51", "text": ">> Organic. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:15:49", "end": "01:15:53", "text": ">> Um and so that's what we'll be doing."}, {"start": "01:15:51", "end": "01:15:55", "text": ">> There has to be such a crazy cultural"}, {"start": "01:15:53", "end": "01:15:57", "text": "shift though. There's a it's Dave"}, {"start": "01:15:55", "end": "01:15:59", "text": "something or other bread. It's like the"}, {"start": "01:15:57", "end": "01:16:01", "text": "better bread in the grocery store. Um,"}, {"start": "01:15:59", "end": "01:16:02", "text": "and then Target's close to our house. We"}, {"start": "01:16:01", "end": "01:16:04", "text": "go to Target all the time, but then they"}, {"start": "01:16:02", "end": "01:16:06", "text": "got organic bananas and regular bananas."}, {"start": "01:16:04", "end": "01:16:08", "text": "And every time we buy the Dave's bread,"}, {"start": "01:16:06", "end": "01:16:09", "text": "I'm like looking at like the expiration"}, {"start": "01:16:08", "end": "01:16:11", "text": "date. I'm like, it expires in like 3"}, {"start": "01:16:09", "end": "01:16:13", "text": "days. Like I got to eat this whole loaf"}, {"start": "01:16:11", "end": "01:16:14", "text": "in three days. And then the bananas,"}, {"start": "01:16:13", "end": "01:16:16", "text": "too. It's like,"}, {"start": "01:16:14", "end": "01:16:19", "text": ">> no, you freeze the kind of bread."}, {"start": "01:16:16", "end": "01:16:20", "text": ">> Also, when did milk expiration become"}, {"start": "01:16:19", "end": "01:16:22", "text": "like two months out?"}, {"start": "01:16:20", "end": "01:16:23", "text": ">> Our organic milk"}, {"start": "01:16:22", "end": "01:16:23", "text": ">> does seem like it's getting longer,"}, {"start": "01:16:23", "end": "01:16:23", "text": "right?"}, {"start": "01:16:23", "end": "01:16:25", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:16:23", "end": "01:16:27", "text": ">> I've also have never had rotten eggs."}, {"start": "01:16:25", "end": "01:16:29", "text": ">> Oh, good. I literally was just talking"}, {"start": "01:16:27", "end": "01:16:31", "text": "to Ada about a rotten egg we opened in"}, {"start": "01:16:29", "end": "01:16:32", "text": "your house."}, {"start": "01:16:31", "end": "01:16:33", "text": ">> Um"}, {"start": "01:16:32", "end": "01:16:34", "text": ">> I've never had that. Maybe we just go"}, {"start": "01:16:33", "end": "01:16:35", "text": "through them too fast."}, {"start": "01:16:34", "end": "01:16:37", "text": ">> I know when it's rotten, too."}, {"start": "01:16:35", "end": "01:16:38", "text": ">> That's crazy."}, {"start": "01:16:37", "end": "01:16:40", "text": ">> The yolk was black."}, {"start": "01:16:38", "end": "01:16:41", "text": ">> Oh, no."}, {"start": "01:16:40", "end": "01:16:43", "text": ">> I've never Yeah, that's the thing. I"}, {"start": "01:16:41", "end": "01:16:45", "text": "even as a kid, I was like, I've never"}, {"start": "01:16:43", "end": "01:16:46", "text": "like I don't think I should try. I've"}, {"start": "01:16:45", "end": "01:16:48", "text": "never thought like, oh, these eggs are"}, {"start": "01:16:46", "end": "01:16:51", "text": "expired. It's like I've never had a bad"}, {"start": "01:16:48", "end": "01:16:53", "text": "egg. No, it's usually what would what"}, {"start": "01:16:51", "end": "01:16:55", "text": "would happen how we got a rotten egg is"}, {"start": "01:16:53", "end": "01:16:58", "text": "that we had chickens or it was um your"}, {"start": "01:16:55", "end": "01:17:00", "text": "mom's chickens and if it sits out in the"}, {"start": "01:16:58", "end": "01:17:01", "text": "coupe for too long and you don't collect"}, {"start": "01:17:00", "end": "01:17:03", "text": "it in Oh,"}, {"start": "01:17:01", "end": "01:17:04", "text": ">> also if you wash the egg and put it on"}, {"start": "01:17:03", "end": "01:17:04", "text": "your counter."}, {"start": "01:17:04", "end": "01:17:05", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:17:04", "end": "01:17:06", "text": ">> But and Yeah."}, {"start": "01:17:05", "end": "01:17:08", "text": ">> They'll make it go rotten."}, {"start": "01:17:06", "end": "01:17:09", "text": ">> If you wash them fresh,"}, {"start": "01:17:08", "end": "01:17:11", "text": ">> you got to keep them fresh and then when"}, {"start": "01:17:09", "end": "01:17:12", "text": "you're ready to cook it, then you wash"}, {"start": "01:17:11", "end": "01:17:14", "text": "the egg off."}, {"start": "01:17:12", "end": "01:17:15", "text": ">> Yeah. Interesting."}, {"start": "01:17:14", "end": "01:17:16", "text": ">> A protective blue."}, {"start": "01:17:15", "end": "01:17:17", "text": ">> You wash it before cooking."}, {"start": "01:17:16", "end": "01:17:19", "text": ">> Yeah. If it came straight out of a"}, {"start": "01:17:17", "end": "01:17:20", "text": "chicken from a chicken,"}, {"start": "01:17:19", "end": "01:17:22", "text": ">> you're cracking it on your skillet. You"}, {"start": "01:17:20", "end": "01:17:23", "text": "got all that stuff on the outside."}, {"start": "01:17:22", "end": "01:17:25", "text": ">> Crack it on the skillet. I just"}, {"start": "01:17:23", "end": "01:17:27", "text": "carefully crack it and open it."}, {"start": "01:17:25", "end": "01:17:27", "text": ">> You get a little chicken poop flake"}, {"start": "01:17:27", "end": "01:17:28", "text": "flake in it"}, {"start": "01:17:27", "end": "01:17:30", "text": ">> on the side"}, {"start": "01:17:28", "end": "01:17:31", "text": ">> on your counter."}, {"start": "01:17:30", "end": "01:17:32", "text": ">> Yeah,"}, {"start": "01:17:31", "end": "01:17:33", "text": ">> I do that, too."}, {"start": "01:17:32", "end": "01:17:34", "text": ">> Nothing falls out."}, {"start": "01:17:33", "end": "01:17:35", "text": ">> Well, that's what I'm saying. But you"}, {"start": "01:17:34", "end": "01:17:36", "text": "wash it."}, {"start": "01:17:35", "end": "01:17:38", "text": ">> He's saying you don't wash it and then"}, {"start": "01:17:36", "end": "01:17:40", "text": "you're cracking."}, {"start": "01:17:38", "end": "01:17:41", "text": ">> You just It's only if you keep chickens."}, {"start": "01:17:40", "end": "01:17:42", "text": "If you buy"}, {"start": "01:17:41", "end": "01:17:45", "text": ">> My neighbor has My neighbor keeps"}, {"start": "01:17:42", "end": "01:17:47", "text": "chickens. I get fresh fresh eggs. Also,"}, {"start": "01:17:45", "end": "01:17:48", "text": "people that people that wash their"}, {"start": "01:17:47", "end": "01:17:51", "text": "chicken."}, {"start": "01:17:48", "end": "01:17:52", "text": ">> Yeah. Crazy. Wash your chicken, dude."}, {"start": "01:17:51", "end": "01:17:54", "text": ">> Oh, yeah. I saw that."}, {"start": "01:17:52", "end": "01:17:57", "text": ">> It's a huge thing. It's not like some"}, {"start": "01:17:54", "end": "01:17:58", "text": "people thousands upon thousands of"}, {"start": "01:17:57", "end": "01:18:00", "text": "people. And it's like,"}, {"start": "01:17:58", "end": "01:18:01", "text": ">> you're not doing anything."}, {"start": "01:18:00", "end": "01:18:02", "text": ">> You're actually making it worse."}, {"start": "01:18:01", "end": "01:18:04", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "01:18:02", "end": "01:18:06", "text": ">> Yeah. Doesn't it invite more bacteria?"}, {"start": "01:18:04", "end": "01:18:08", "text": "Abs bring anything into your sink? Yeah."}, {"start": "01:18:06", "end": "01:18:10", "text": "Absolut. It's I know there's going to be"}, {"start": "01:18:08", "end": "01:18:11", "text": "people like, I wash my It's gross."}, {"start": "01:18:10", "end": "01:18:13", "text": ">> Don't wash it."}, {"start": "01:18:11", "end": "01:18:15", "text": ">> It's like, oh yeah, chicken slime is"}, {"start": "01:18:13", "end": "01:18:16", "text": "gross. Yeah, but I don't I I'm I'm"}, {"start": "01:18:15", "end": "01:18:16", "text": "cooking it."}, {"start": "01:18:16", "end": "01:18:18", "text": ">> Yeah, you're not you're not"}, {"start": "01:18:16", "end": "01:18:20", "text": ">> I'm cooking it."}, {"start": "01:18:18", "end": "01:18:21", "text": ">> It's not a toy for my children."}, {"start": "01:18:20", "end": "01:18:23", "text": ">> It's crazy."}, {"start": "01:18:21", "end": "01:18:24", "text": ">> Speaking of toy for children, can you"}, {"start": "01:18:23", "end": "01:18:25", "text": "tell us about these dolphins?"}, {"start": "01:18:24", "end": "01:18:28", "text": ">> Dude, let me tell you about some"}, {"start": "01:18:25", "end": "01:18:29", "text": "dolphins. Kamicazi dolphins."}, {"start": "01:18:28", "end": "01:18:32", "text": ">> Pardon?"}, {"start": "01:18:29", "end": "01:18:34", "text": ">> Yeah, that's what I said. So, there was"}, {"start": "01:18:32", "end": "01:18:36", "text": "like a White House meeting or something."}, {"start": "01:18:34", "end": "01:18:37", "text": "Pete Higgsth was talking and one of the"}, {"start": "01:18:36", "end": "01:18:40", "text": "reporters like, \"Hey, can you tell us a"}, {"start": "01:18:37", "end": "01:18:42", "text": "little bit more about these kamicazi"}, {"start": "01:18:40", "end": "01:18:44", "text": "dolphins?\" And I said, \"Pause. What are"}, {"start": "01:18:42", "end": "01:18:47", "text": "we talking about here? This is crazy."}, {"start": "01:18:44", "end": "01:18:51", "text": "And so this isn't a new idea either."}, {"start": "01:18:47", "end": "01:18:54", "text": "This is gone back to Vietnam times."}, {"start": "01:18:51", "end": "01:18:57", "text": "Right now, currently, there are 85"}, {"start": "01:18:54", "end": "01:19:01", "text": "bottl-nose dolphins that are being"}, {"start": "01:18:57", "end": "01:19:01", "text": "employed by the US Navy mammal like"}, {"start": "01:19:01", "end": "01:19:03", "text": "program."}, {"start": "01:19:01", "end": "01:19:07", "text": ">> Is this confirmed?"}, {"start": "01:19:03", "end": "01:19:09", "text": ">> 110%. And like 50 sea lions. Okay."}, {"start": "01:19:07", "end": "01:19:11", "text": ">> It is it's it's crazy. The the the"}, {"start": "01:19:09", "end": "01:19:13", "text": "rabbit hole with this is absolutely"}, {"start": "01:19:11", "end": "01:19:16", "text": "wild. So they first started using that"}, {"start": "01:19:13", "end": "01:19:19", "text": "we know of confirmed in Vietnam back in"}, {"start": "01:19:16", "end": "01:19:21", "text": "the day. They would no joke use these"}, {"start": "01:19:19", "end": "01:19:23", "text": "dolphins, train them using their"}, {"start": "01:19:21", "end": "01:19:26", "text": "echolocation. They would strap sonar"}, {"start": "01:19:23", "end": "01:19:30", "text": "devices to them to go and find certain"}, {"start": "01:19:26", "end": "01:19:32", "text": "mines within lakes, rivers, oceans, all"}, {"start": "01:19:30", "end": "01:19:34", "text": "this stuff. And so they would find these"}, {"start": "01:19:32", "end": "01:19:36", "text": "mines. And then they later trained these"}, {"start": "01:19:34", "end": "01:19:38", "text": "dolphins once they located them cuz it"}, {"start": "01:19:36", "end": "01:19:40", "text": "would be murky, dirty water that you"}, {"start": "01:19:38", "end": "01:19:43", "text": "couldn't go down there and see anything."}, {"start": "01:19:40", "end": "01:19:44", "text": "Those dolphins would go down there, come"}, {"start": "01:19:43", "end": "01:19:46", "text": "back up after confirming where these"}, {"start": "01:19:44", "end": "01:19:49", "text": "mines are. They would strap these little"}, {"start": "01:19:46", "end": "01:19:51", "text": "tiny explosive devices for the dolphins"}, {"start": "01:19:49", "end": "01:19:54", "text": "to place, it's like B7s, I think what"}, {"start": "01:19:51", "end": "01:19:55", "text": "they're called. Place them on their nose"}, {"start": "01:19:54", "end": "01:19:57", "text": "with a little tube and everything."}, {"start": "01:19:55", "end": "01:19:59", "text": "They'd go down there, they'd place them"}, {"start": "01:19:57", "end": "01:20:02", "text": "gently next to the mines, and then 10,"}, {"start": "01:19:59", "end": "01:20:02", "text": "15 hours later, kaboom, and they're"}, {"start": "01:20:02", "end": "01:20:04", "text": "gone."}, {"start": "01:20:02", "end": "01:20:06", "text": ">> The dolphins are fine, right?"}, {"start": "01:20:04", "end": "01:20:08", "text": ">> That's what I thought you about to say."}, {"start": "01:20:06", "end": "01:20:09", "text": ">> No, no, the dolphins are fine. And, you"}, {"start": "01:20:08", "end": "01:20:11", "text": "know, in Vietnam, and they even use"}, {"start": "01:20:09", "end": "01:20:13", "text": "these in Iraq and everything, they would"}, {"start": "01:20:11", "end": "01:20:16", "text": "literally go through and use their"}, {"start": "01:20:13", "end": "01:20:19", "text": "echolocation to find to put uh bombs on"}, {"start": "01:20:16", "end": "01:20:22", "text": "this the holes of ships, place them"}, {"start": "01:20:19", "end": "01:20:23", "text": "there, and it's incredible, and it's"}, {"start": "01:20:22", "end": "01:20:25", "text": "super super wild. But now they're"}, {"start": "01:20:23", "end": "01:20:28", "text": "talking about kamicazi dolphins where"}, {"start": "01:20:25", "end": "01:20:30", "text": "you literally strap a larger explosive"}, {"start": "01:20:28", "end": "01:20:33", "text": "to a dolphin. And the Soviet Russians"}, {"start": "01:20:30", "end": "01:20:35", "text": "have done this. They they put literally"}, {"start": "01:20:33", "end": "01:20:38", "text": "bombs on these dolphins and they run"}, {"start": "01:20:35", "end": "01:20:40", "text": "them into either mines or to ships and"}, {"start": "01:20:38", "end": "01:20:42", "text": "that's what makes them explode and the"}, {"start": "01:20:40", "end": "01:20:43", "text": "dolphins die. It's awful."}, {"start": "01:20:42", "end": "01:20:45", "text": ">> What does Peta have to say about this?"}, {"start": "01:20:43", "end": "01:20:46", "text": ">> I mean they can't do nothing."}, {"start": "01:20:45", "end": "01:20:47", "text": ">> What does Peta Hexth have to say about"}, {"start": "01:20:46", "end": "01:20:49", "text": "it?"}, {"start": "01:20:47", "end": "01:20:51", "text": ">> Petth he says, \"When you can you give me"}, {"start": "01:20:49", "end": "01:20:52", "text": "more animals?\" No, but that's the clip I"}, {"start": "01:20:51", "end": "01:20:54", "text": "saw where he was being questioned about"}, {"start": "01:20:52", "end": "01:20:55", "text": "the reporter like, \"Can you tell us"}, {"start": "01:20:54", "end": "01:20:58", "text": "about these kamicazi dolphins?\" And he's"}, {"start": "01:20:55", "end": "01:21:00", "text": "like, \"I can neither confirm nor deny"}, {"start": "01:20:58", "end": "01:21:02", "text": "these kamicazi dolphins.\""}, {"start": "01:21:00", "end": "01:21:02", "text": ">> They're not real. But he just loves that"}, {"start": "01:21:02", "end": "01:21:02", "text": "hot take."}, {"start": "01:21:02", "end": "01:21:04", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:21:02", "end": "01:21:05", "text": ">> He said like I think he said like they"}, {"start": "01:21:04", "end": "01:21:07", "text": "have them, but we can't like confirm or"}, {"start": "01:21:05", "end": "01:21:09", "text": "deny the word. We have them, you know,"}, {"start": "01:21:07", "end": "01:21:11", "text": "anything like that. But they literally"}, {"start": "01:21:09", "end": "01:21:13", "text": "train these things for years and it's"}, {"start": "01:21:11", "end": "01:21:16", "text": "like it's just like basically a bomb"}, {"start": "01:21:13", "end": "01:21:20", "text": "dog, a squat, like a a SWAT dog like but"}, {"start": "01:21:16", "end": "01:21:22", "text": "it's for mammals, right? And now"}, {"start": "01:21:20", "end": "01:21:23", "text": "This opens the whole theory because you"}, {"start": "01:21:22", "end": "01:21:25", "text": "always talk about dolphins. Everyone"}, {"start": "01:21:23", "end": "01:21:28", "text": "someone's going to comment this is why"}, {"start": "01:21:25", "end": "01:21:30", "text": "it's illegal to talk to dolphins. And I"}, {"start": "01:21:28", "end": "01:21:34", "text": "looked it up. There is very loose"}, {"start": "01:21:30", "end": "01:21:36", "text": "language. It is a federal offense to"}, {"start": "01:21:34", "end": "01:21:38", "text": "interact with a dolphin in any way with"}, {"start": "01:21:36", "end": "01:21:40", "text": "like without beyond the confines of like"}, {"start": "01:21:38", "end": "01:21:42", "text": "you know like you know what structure"}, {"start": "01:21:40", "end": "01:21:43", "text": "do. Yeah. Like that or like you know"}, {"start": "01:21:42", "end": "01:21:46", "text": "you're swimming with dolphin whatever."}, {"start": "01:21:43", "end": "01:21:48", "text": "And this pinpoints back to this right"}, {"start": "01:21:46", "end": "01:21:50", "text": "here where they're training dolphins and"}, {"start": "01:21:48", "end": "01:21:51", "text": "you don't know which dolphins they're"}, {"start": "01:21:50", "end": "01:21:52", "text": "training."}, {"start": "01:21:51", "end": "01:21:54", "text": ">> And when dolphins, yes, they are very"}, {"start": "01:21:52", "end": "01:21:56", "text": "smart. They're very intelligent. Their"}, {"start": "01:21:54", "end": "01:21:58", "text": "brains are like double the size of ours,"}, {"start": "01:21:56", "end": "01:21:59", "text": "but they get very easily distracted."}, {"start": "01:21:58", "end": "01:22:01", "text": "They're like a six-year-old kid. Like"}, {"start": "01:21:59", "end": "01:22:02", "text": "you tell them to do something, they're"}, {"start": "01:22:01", "end": "01:22:04", "text": "going to do it, but then something"}, {"start": "01:22:02", "end": "01:22:06", "text": "shinier or brighter has over here. It's"}, {"start": "01:22:04", "end": "01:22:08", "text": "like, I'm going to go that way. And so"}, {"start": "01:22:06", "end": "01:22:09", "text": "you don't interact on that cruise ship."}, {"start": "01:22:08", "end": "01:22:11", "text": ">> Yeah. Or this little kid that's surfing,"}, {"start": "01:22:09", "end": "01:22:13", "text": "you know, like whatever it may be. And"}, {"start": "01:22:11", "end": "01:22:15", "text": "so that is literally it's a federal"}, {"start": "01:22:13", "end": "01:22:17", "text": "offense to interact and they even"}, {"start": "01:22:15", "end": "01:22:19", "text": "communicate they say and that's there's"}, {"start": "01:22:17", "end": "01:22:21", "text": "been people that get in trouble. That's"}, {"start": "01:22:19", "end": "01:22:22", "text": "like the loose language. They don't say"}, {"start": "01:22:21", "end": "01:22:24", "text": "communicate but people have gotten in"}, {"start": "01:22:22", "end": "01:22:26", "text": "trouble with like being on the side of a"}, {"start": "01:22:24", "end": "01:22:27", "text": "boat and like and know just not even"}, {"start": "01:22:26", "end": "01:22:30", "text": "touching the dolphin but like"}, {"start": "01:22:27", "end": "01:22:32", "text": "interacting and talking with it. Yes."}, {"start": "01:22:30", "end": "01:22:33", "text": ">> People have gotten in trouble if you"}, {"start": "01:22:32", "end": "01:22:35", "text": ">> you can't talk to that dolphin."}, {"start": "01:22:33", "end": "01:22:36", "text": ">> Let me look up. It's like the"}, {"start": "01:22:35", "end": "01:22:39", "text": ">> I got the certain act I got to hear a"}, {"start": "01:22:36", "end": "01:22:41", "text": "screenshot. The Marine M."}, {"start": "01:22:39", "end": "01:22:42", "text": ">> STOP TALKING TO THAT DOLPHIN RIGHT NOW."}, {"start": "01:22:41", "end": "01:22:44", "text": ">> PUT YOUR HANDS UP."}, {"start": "01:22:42", "end": "01:22:45", "text": ">> WHAT' YOU SAY TO THAT DOLPHIN"}, {"start": "01:22:44", "end": "01:22:48", "text": "INTERROGATION?"}, {"start": "01:22:45", "end": "01:22:50", "text": ">> The Marine Mammal Protection Act and"}, {"start": "01:22:48", "end": "01:22:51", "text": "unknown knowingly harassing, hunting,"}, {"start": "01:22:50", "end": "01:22:52", "text": "capturing or killing. So obviously the"}, {"start": "01:22:51", "end": "01:22:53", "text": "hunting, capturing, killing, that's"}, {"start": "01:22:52", "end": "01:22:53", "text": "obvious."}, {"start": "01:22:53", "end": "01:22:56", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:22:53", "end": "01:22:58", "text": ">> But the harassing, that's where the"}, {"start": "01:22:56", "end": "01:23:00", "text": "loose language comes in. And like, you"}, {"start": "01:22:58", "end": "01:23:02", "text": "know, they can get you for literally"}, {"start": "01:23:00", "end": "01:23:04", "text": "anything. Go. So, I think that's what a"}, {"start": "01:23:02", "end": "01:23:06", "text": "lot of people are saying is that when"}, {"start": "01:23:04", "end": "01:23:07", "text": "they're training these dolphins, they're"}, {"start": "01:23:06", "end": "01:23:08", "text": "not labeling which dolphin they're"}, {"start": "01:23:07", "end": "01:23:10", "text": "training or stuff like that. They've got"}, {"start": "01:23:08", "end": "01:23:12", "text": "trackers, whatever, but it's like if you"}, {"start": "01:23:10", "end": "01:23:13", "text": "as a human come up with a dolphin that"}, {"start": "01:23:12", "end": "01:23:15", "text": "they're interacting with, it's like that"}, {"start": "01:23:13", "end": "01:23:16", "text": "can compromise a lot of what they've got"}, {"start": "01:23:15", "end": "01:23:16", "text": "going on."}, {"start": "01:23:16", "end": "01:23:18", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "01:23:16", "end": "01:23:19", "text": ">> So crazy."}, {"start": "01:23:18", "end": "01:23:21", "text": ">> That is so interesting because you would"}, {"start": "01:23:19", "end": "01:23:24", "text": "think that they would keep them like a"}, {"start": "01:23:21", "end": "01:23:25", "text": "like kind of like a government SeaWorld"}, {"start": "01:23:24", "end": "01:23:26", "text": "where they would put them in a big thing"}, {"start": "01:23:25", "end": "01:23:28", "text": "and train them there, but they're"}, {"start": "01:23:26", "end": "01:23:29", "text": "keeping them wild."}, {"start": "01:23:28", "end": "01:23:31", "text": ">> Yeah. Eating them in the open ocean."}, {"start": "01:23:29", "end": "01:23:34", "text": ">> Yeah. observing."}, {"start": "01:23:31", "end": "01:23:36", "text": ">> What if all of the orca attacks were"}, {"start": "01:23:34", "end": "01:23:38", "text": "training's gone wrong? We tried to"}, {"start": "01:23:36", "end": "01:23:39", "text": "upgrade to orca."}, {"start": "01:23:38", "end": "01:23:41", "text": ">> Interesting. That'd be terrible."}, {"start": "01:23:39", "end": "01:23:43", "text": ">> Taking the livers out of people. My god,"}, {"start": "01:23:41", "end": "01:23:44", "text": ">> I like the way your brain works, Andrew."}, {"start": "01:23:43", "end": "01:23:46", "text": "That's a good theory."}, {"start": "01:23:44", "end": "01:23:48", "text": ">> Yeah, but that's the thing. You like"}, {"start": "01:23:46", "end": "01:23:50", "text": "they have pods that they show like in"}, {"start": "01:23:48", "end": "01:23:52", "text": "Soviet Russia, like they would have pods"}, {"start": "01:23:50", "end": "01:23:54", "text": "where they would keep these dolphins and"}, {"start": "01:23:52", "end": "01:23:55", "text": "there there's even US Navy guys who have"}, {"start": "01:23:54", "end": "01:23:57", "text": "came out and talked about it when"}, {"start": "01:23:55", "end": "01:23:58", "text": "they're training. And they, no joke,"}, {"start": "01:23:57", "end": "01:24:01", "text": "they do their best. It's like"}, {"start": "01:23:58", "end": "01:24:04", "text": "hideand-seek training. So, the guys will"}, {"start": "01:24:01", "end": "01:24:06", "text": "dive down and they attach these glow"}, {"start": "01:24:04", "end": "01:24:08", "text": "sticks basically to this dolphin. You go"}, {"start": "01:24:06", "end": "01:24:11", "text": "down and you hide from this dolphin and"}, {"start": "01:24:08", "end": "01:24:12", "text": "you the longer the better. And so this"}, {"start": "01:24:11", "end": "01:24:14", "text": "they got the guys go down there. They're"}, {"start": "01:24:12", "end": "01:24:15", "text": "hiding and then suddenly"}, {"start": "01:24:14", "end": "01:24:17", "text": ">> oh my gosh"}, {"start": "01:24:15", "end": "01:24:18", "text": ">> this thing just zooms by this light and"}, {"start": "01:24:17", "end": "01:24:20", "text": "you're like I think we got him. And then"}, {"start": "01:24:18", "end": "01:24:22", "text": "suddenly he zooms right back. You're"}, {"start": "01:24:20", "end": "01:24:25", "text": "like, \"Oh, I don't think he can see us.\""}, {"start": "01:24:22", "end": "01:24:28", "text": "And then suddenly this guy comes up."}, {"start": "01:24:25", "end": "01:24:30", "text": ">> Dolphin flies at him, hitting him in the"}, {"start": "01:24:28", "end": "01:24:32", "text": "nose. Two weeks, two black eyes."}, {"start": "01:24:30", "end": "01:24:34", "text": ">> Oh, they're so smart."}, {"start": "01:24:32", "end": "01:24:36", "text": ">> They're so smart. And they can see"}, {"start": "01:24:34", "end": "01:24:38", "text": "everything. I mean, they're incredibly"}, {"start": "01:24:36", "end": "01:24:39", "text": "fast. They're incredibly intelligent."}, {"start": "01:24:38", "end": "01:24:40", "text": "And it's like, of course, we would use"}, {"start": "01:24:39", "end": "01:24:42", "text": "them for weapons. As a bad guy, you're"}, {"start": "01:24:40", "end": "01:24:44", "text": "like, \"Yes, it's like freaking sharks"}, {"start": "01:24:42", "end": "01:24:46", "text": "with laser beams, right?\" Like, it's"}, {"start": "01:24:44", "end": "01:24:48", "text": ">> Yeah. Like like freaking sharks with"}, {"start": "01:24:46", "end": "01:24:48", "text": "laser beams attached to their freaking"}, {"start": "01:24:48", "end": "01:24:50", "text": "head."}, {"start": "01:24:48", "end": "01:24:52", "text": ">> WE'VE GOT DOLPHINS WITH BOMBS on their"}, {"start": "01:24:50", "end": "01:24:54", "text": "noses. It's the craziest thing."}, {"start": "01:24:52", "end": "01:24:55", "text": ">> That's from Austin Powers, by the way."}, {"start": "01:24:54", "end": "01:24:56", "text": ">> Yeah, they actually said that at that"}, {"start": "01:24:55", "end": "01:24:58", "text": "White House briefing."}, {"start": "01:24:56", "end": "01:24:59", "text": ">> They quoted it. He's like, \"Oh, gone.\""}, {"start": "01:24:58", "end": "01:25:00", "text": ">> But that was also probably to downplay"}, {"start": "01:24:59", "end": "01:25:03", "text": "it a little bit."}, {"start": "01:25:00", "end": "01:25:04", "text": ">> But I also think kamicazi dolphin is a"}, {"start": "01:25:03", "end": "01:25:06", "text": "great t-shirt, by the way."}, {"start": "01:25:04", "end": "01:25:06", "text": ">> Oh, great t-shirt."}, {"start": "01:25:06", "end": "01:25:08", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:25:06", "end": "01:25:09", "text": ">> With letters like the Japanese letter"}, {"start": "01:25:08", "end": "01:25:09", "text": "kamicazi dolphin."}, {"start": "01:25:09", "end": "01:25:11", "text": ">> Yeah. Holding like"}, {"start": "01:25:09", "end": "01:25:11", "text": ">> dolphins. That's our dolphin or alien"}, {"start": "01:25:11", "end": "01:25:12", "text": "shirt."}, {"start": "01:25:11", "end": "01:25:14", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "01:25:12", "end": "01:25:17", "text": ">> Oh, dude, you're cooking."}, {"start": "01:25:14", "end": "01:25:19", "text": "My kamicazi dolphin is better than"}, {"start": "01:25:17", "end": "01:25:21", "text": ">> my kamicazi dolphin is better than your"}, {"start": "01:25:19", "end": "01:25:23", "text": "toy poodle or something like that. Like"}, {"start": "01:25:21", "end": "01:25:24", "text": "that kind of thing. Any who, this"}, {"start": "01:25:23", "end": "01:25:27", "text": "segment, what you have just brought to"}, {"start": "01:25:24", "end": "01:25:28", "text": "light. If I can encourage our viewers."}, {"start": "01:25:27", "end": "01:25:29", "text": ">> Wait, wait, wait. I Let me just say this"}, {"start": "01:25:28", "end": "01:25:31", "text": "real quick because this is a great idea"}, {"start": "01:25:29", "end": "01:25:33", "text": "for a t-shirt."}, {"start": "01:25:31", "end": "01:25:36", "text": ">> Instead of the don't tread on me, it's"}, {"start": "01:25:33", "end": "01:25:37", "text": "the dolphin says don't talk to me."}, {"start": "01:25:36", "end": "01:25:38", "text": ">> That's good."}, {"start": "01:25:37", "end": "01:25:39", "text": ">> Yes,"}, {"start": "01:25:38", "end": "01:25:40", "text": ">> that's good."}, {"start": "01:25:39", "end": "01:25:41", "text": ">> Always ruined."}, {"start": "01:25:40", "end": "01:25:42", "text": ">> No, don't you dare."}, {"start": "01:25:41", "end": "01:25:44", "text": ">> I had to say that otherwise I would"}, {"start": "01:25:42", "end": "01:25:45", "text": "forget. He did that every time."}, {"start": "01:25:44", "end": "01:25:46", "text": ">> That's what I was going to say. I would"}, {"start": "01:25:45", "end": "01:25:48", "text": "forget it."}, {"start": "01:25:46", "end": "01:25:50", "text": ">> Imagine imagine if you he you he did"}, {"start": "01:25:48", "end": "01:25:50", "text": "that to you every time you interrupted"}, {"start": "01:25:50", "end": "01:25:51", "text": "him."}, {"start": "01:25:50", "end": "01:25:53", "text": ">> He just said, \"You know what? I don't"}, {"start": "01:25:51", "end": "01:25:54", "text": "want to talk anymore.\""}, {"start": "01:25:53", "end": "01:25:55", "text": ">> All right, finish your thought."}, {"start": "01:25:54", "end": "01:25:57", "text": ">> What I was going to say is if you can"}, {"start": "01:25:55", "end": "01:25:59", "text": "imagine it, it's happening."}, {"start": "01:25:57", "end": "01:26:00", "text": ">> That's what's going on."}, {"start": "01:25:59", "end": "01:26:03", "text": ">> Yeah. Anything is possible at this"}, {"start": "01:26:00", "end": "01:26:04", "text": "point. Are dolphins being used as like,"}, {"start": "01:26:03", "end": "01:26:05", "text": "you know, like weapons? Yeah, they are."}, {"start": "01:26:04", "end": "01:26:07", "text": "Of course they are."}, {"start": "01:26:05", "end": "01:26:09", "text": ">> Imagine looking at the world that way."}, {"start": "01:26:07", "end": "01:26:10", "text": "If you go out, you go out and you're on"}, {"start": "01:26:09", "end": "01:26:12", "text": "a cruise with your family and you're"}, {"start": "01:26:10", "end": "01:26:13", "text": "like, \"That could be a weapon. That"}, {"start": "01:26:12", "end": "01:26:15", "text": "could be a weapon.\" instead of like"}, {"start": "01:26:13", "end": "01:26:16", "text": "appreciating the world. That's sad."}, {"start": "01:26:15", "end": "01:26:18", "text": ">> I'd be a wealthy man."}, {"start": "01:26:16", "end": "01:26:20", "text": ">> Like looking look looking at an atom"}, {"start": "01:26:18", "end": "01:26:22", "text": "bomb saying, \"I bet penguins made this.\""}, {"start": "01:26:20", "end": "01:26:24", "text": "You know,"}, {"start": "01:26:22", "end": "01:26:26", "text": ">> dude, dolphins have a documented like"}, {"start": "01:26:24", "end": "01:26:27", "text": "dark sense of humor, though. Like my"}, {"start": "01:26:26", "end": "01:26:29", "text": "buddy was diving under the Destin Bridge"}, {"start": "01:26:27", "end": "01:26:32", "text": "just like checking out fish. And this"}, {"start": "01:26:29", "end": "01:26:35", "text": "dolphin kept on appearing directly"}, {"start": "01:26:32", "end": "01:26:37", "text": "behind him. Like he'd turn around slowly"}, {"start": "01:26:35", "end": "01:26:40", "text": "and it would and it wasn't like hovering"}, {"start": "01:26:37", "end": "01:26:43", "text": "like a fish. It'd be vertical like like"}, {"start": "01:26:40", "end": "01:26:45", "text": "this like [ __ ] and it'd like freak him"}, {"start": "01:26:43", "end": "01:26:46", "text": "out and then it would dart off but it"}, {"start": "01:26:45", "end": "01:26:48", "text": "kept doing it to him. It like sent him"}, {"start": "01:26:46", "end": "01:26:50", "text": "out of the water a little bit."}, {"start": "01:26:48", "end": "01:26:52", "text": ">> Dude, I've been surfing and I'm like I"}, {"start": "01:26:50", "end": "01:26:54", "text": "can't tell what that is and it turned"}, {"start": "01:26:52", "end": "01:26:56", "text": "not chasing fish and it did it to me. I"}, {"start": "01:26:54", "end": "01:26:58", "text": "mean the fastest I've ever seen"}, {"start": "01:26:56", "end": "01:27:00", "text": "something move in the water and got like"}, {"start": "01:26:58", "end": "01:27:02", "text": "I'm about to get impaled and then just"}, {"start": "01:27:00", "end": "01:27:04", "text": "at the last second veered off and I was"}, {"start": "01:27:02", "end": "01:27:05", "text": "like what a weird thing to happen."}, {"start": "01:27:04", "end": "01:27:06", "text": "Freaked me out. And then I saw it happen"}, {"start": "01:27:05", "end": "01:27:07", "text": "to other people in the water."}, {"start": "01:27:06", "end": "01:27:09", "text": ">> Just playing with people."}, {"start": "01:27:07", "end": "01:27:10", "text": ">> Yeah. just like this is fun. People are"}, {"start": "01:27:09", "end": "01:27:11", "text": "freaking out."}, {"start": "01:27:10", "end": "01:27:13", "text": ">> Did you see that video of the guys?"}, {"start": "01:27:11", "end": "01:27:14", "text": "What's that? You're on a surfboard and"}, {"start": "01:27:13", "end": "01:27:16", "text": "it goes up like this."}, {"start": "01:27:14", "end": "01:27:17", "text": ">> Like the hydro or the"}, {"start": "01:27:16", "end": "01:27:18", "text": ">> It's like the epitome of"}, {"start": "01:27:17", "end": "01:27:18", "text": ">> Was it Was it fake?"}, {"start": "01:27:18", "end": "01:27:19", "text": ">> It's real."}, {"start": "01:27:18", "end": "01:27:20", "text": ">> No, it's real."}, {"start": "01:27:19", "end": "01:27:22", "text": ">> It's real surfing."}, {"start": "01:27:20", "end": "01:27:23", "text": ">> No, no, the the footage with the shark"}, {"start": "01:27:22", "end": "01:27:24", "text": "chasing him."}, {"start": "01:27:23", "end": "01:27:25", "text": ">> Oh, I don't Yeah, I've seen that. Foil"}, {"start": "01:27:24", "end": "01:27:27", "text": "boarding is what it's called."}, {"start": "01:27:25", "end": "01:27:27", "text": ">> Foil boarding. I knew it had something"}, {"start": "01:27:27", "end": "01:27:29", "text": "to do with foil."}, {"start": "01:27:27", "end": "01:27:31", "text": ">> It's real. It's real surfing."}, {"start": "01:27:29", "end": "01:27:32", "text": ">> Like it's the next step. Like I mean, if"}, {"start": "01:27:31", "end": "01:27:32", "text": "you can't actually surf."}, {"start": "01:27:32", "end": "01:27:34", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:27:32", "end": "01:27:36", "text": ">> I mean like if you if you like if you"}, {"start": "01:27:34", "end": "01:27:37", "text": "can surf, that's the next level. And if"}, {"start": "01:27:36", "end": "01:27:38", "text": "you can't do that, then you just stick"}, {"start": "01:27:37", "end": "01:27:41", "text": "to"}, {"start": "01:27:38", "end": "01:27:43", "text": ">> foil boarding is like that's that's the"}, {"start": "01:27:41", "end": "01:27:47", "text": "next generation of true surfers."}, {"start": "01:27:43", "end": "01:27:49", "text": ">> This shark, this shark was maybe a great"}, {"start": "01:27:47", "end": "01:27:52", "text": "white, maybe a bull shark. It was like a"}, {"start": "01:27:49", "end": "01:27:52", "text": "great white tiger or white. I don't"}, {"start": "01:27:52", "end": "01:27:54", "text": "remember."}, {"start": "01:27:52", "end": "01:27:55", "text": ">> It was ginormous and it was chasing the"}, {"start": "01:27:54", "end": "01:27:56", "text": "dude and the guy seen the clip. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:27:55", "end": "01:27:58", "text": ">> He's going right beside him and he's"}, {"start": "01:27:56", "end": "01:28:00", "text": "like, \"Don't fall off.\""}, {"start": "01:27:58", "end": "01:28:02", "text": ">> And then he sits and stops."}, {"start": "01:28:00", "end": "01:28:04", "text": ">> I didn't see that. I but the guy he like"}, {"start": "01:28:02", "end": "01:28:06", "text": "stumbled for a second but this shark's"}, {"start": "01:28:04", "end": "01:28:08", "text": "just going like just chasing them."}, {"start": "01:28:06", "end": "01:28:09", "text": ">> The biggest shark in the world."}, {"start": "01:28:08", "end": "01:28:11", "text": ">> Huge."}, {"start": "01:28:09", "end": "01:28:13", "text": ">> I will I will say those dudes I like the"}, {"start": "01:28:11", "end": "01:28:14", "text": "use of foiling for that. So they're"}, {"start": "01:28:13", "end": "01:28:16", "text": "island hopping and they're trying to"}, {"start": "01:28:14", "end": "01:28:18", "text": "ride like the windb blown swells. It's"}, {"start": "01:28:16", "end": "01:28:19", "text": "kind of like a like a means of"}, {"start": "01:28:18", "end": "01:28:20", "text": "transportation."}, {"start": "01:28:19", "end": "01:28:22", "text": ">> Foil boys."}, {"start": "01:28:20", "end": "01:28:23", "text": ">> Dude, when you're Have you seen like"}, {"start": "01:28:22", "end": "01:28:25", "text": "injuries people trying to do it and"}, {"start": "01:28:23", "end": "01:28:25", "text": "those things come out of the water?"}, {"start": "01:28:25", "end": "01:28:28", "text": ">> Slash you,"}, {"start": "01:28:25", "end": "01:28:32", "text": ">> dude. I' I've literally I was surfing I"}, {"start": "01:28:28", "end": "01:28:33", "text": "was at Sununglow uh over like on the way"}, {"start": "01:28:32", "end": "01:28:35", "text": "down to Pon Inletby Joe's"}, {"start": "01:28:33", "end": "01:28:36", "text": ">> and this dude is like doing his thing"}, {"start": "01:28:35", "end": "01:28:38", "text": "and I'm like that's cool. And so you"}, {"start": "01:28:36", "end": "01:28:39", "text": "know you bob a wave kind of you can't"}, {"start": "01:28:38", "end": "01:28:41", "text": "see him because the next wave comes up"}, {"start": "01:28:39", "end": "01:28:43", "text": "and then he comes up and I'm like the"}, {"start": "01:28:41", "end": "01:28:46", "text": "dude's 20 feet in front of me pumping"}, {"start": "01:28:43", "end": "01:28:48", "text": "looking like a goof and literally just"}, {"start": "01:28:46", "end": "01:28:50", "text": "loses it flips upside down board kind of"}, {"start": "01:28:48", "end": "01:28:53", "text": "like I mean you're looking at the blade"}, {"start": "01:28:50", "end": "01:28:55", "text": "out the water 20t away and I'm like what"}, {"start": "01:28:53", "end": "01:28:56", "text": "what on earth are you doing? Like how is"}, {"start": "01:28:55", "end": "01:28:58", "text": "this okay to be this close to me?"}, {"start": "01:28:56", "end": "01:28:59", "text": ">> Cut someone's head off."}, {"start": "01:28:58", "end": "01:29:01", "text": ">> I'm watching the video right now. That"}, {"start": "01:28:59", "end": "01:29:02", "text": "is so scary cuz they're like they're not"}, {"start": "01:29:01", "end": "01:29:04", "text": "near lamp."}, {"start": "01:29:02", "end": "01:29:06", "text": ">> Yeah. Send that to the group so Andrew"}, {"start": "01:29:04", "end": "01:29:06", "text": "could post it on the what we're talking"}, {"start": "01:29:06", "end": "01:29:09", "text": "about."}, {"start": "01:29:06", "end": "01:29:11", "text": ">> Goodness, dude. So scary."}, {"start": "01:29:09", "end": "01:29:13", "text": ">> Do you guys want a story about speaking"}, {"start": "01:29:11", "end": "01:29:16", "text": "of"}, {"start": "01:29:13", "end": "01:29:17", "text": "haunt haunt virus and strawberries that"}, {"start": "01:29:16", "end": "01:29:19", "text": "give you cancer?"}, {"start": "01:29:17", "end": "01:29:21", "text": ">> Oh my gosh."}, {"start": "01:29:19", "end": "01:29:23", "text": ">> This is a story from my brother."}, {"start": "01:29:21", "end": "01:29:26", "text": ">> Oh, hi Taylor. Taylor"}, {"start": "01:29:23", "end": "01:29:31", "text": ">> gave me this story. Very fun story. Very"}, {"start": "01:29:26", "end": "01:29:34", "text": "crazy story about Roman soldiers that"}, {"start": "01:29:31", "end": "01:29:36", "text": "were defeated by honey."}, {"start": "01:29:34", "end": "01:29:37", "text": ">> Oo."}, {"start": "01:29:36", "end": "01:29:40", "text": ">> All right."}, {"start": "01:29:37", "end": "01:29:42", "text": ">> Very fun. And excuse me, I'm going to"}, {"start": "01:29:40", "end": "01:29:43", "text": "mispronounce everything in this story."}, {"start": "01:29:42", "end": "01:29:47", "text": ">> Is it in Italian?"}, {"start": "01:29:43", "end": "01:29:51", "text": ">> No, it's this um so Rome, it was"}, {"start": "01:29:47", "end": "01:29:54", "text": "happening during the uh mythraatic"}, {"start": "01:29:51", "end": "01:29:58", "text": "war. the mythratic war. So Rome was"}, {"start": "01:29:54", "end": "01:30:01", "text": "fighting Mithrates"}, {"start": "01:29:58", "end": "01:30:03", "text": "uh the six upur"}, {"start": "01:30:01", "end": "01:30:05", "text": ">> that was pretty good actually."}, {"start": "01:30:03", "end": "01:30:06", "text": ">> I don't know what he is."}, {"start": "01:30:05", "end": "01:30:08", "text": ">> What time period is this?"}, {"start": "01:30:06", "end": "01:30:10", "text": ">> Mithrates whenever the Romans were"}, {"start": "01:30:08", "end": "01:30:11", "text": "around. I don't know."}, {"start": "01:30:10", "end": "01:30:15", "text": ">> They're still around today."}, {"start": "01:30:11", "end": "01:30:18", "text": ">> It was in the I think the BC era. Um,"}, {"start": "01:30:15", "end": "01:30:22", "text": "but Mithrates, he was this king that was"}, {"start": "01:30:18", "end": "01:30:23", "text": "like the thorn in Rome's side. And I,"}, {"start": "01:30:22", "end": "01:30:25", "text": "let me look. Can you look up, Andrew,"}, {"start": "01:30:23", "end": "01:30:26", "text": "where he was from? Mithrides."}, {"start": "01:30:25", "end": "01:30:32", "text": ">> Yeah, that's easy spelling."}, {"start": "01:30:26", "end": "01:30:34", "text": ">> Uh, mi t h r i d a tes."}, {"start": "01:30:32", "end": "01:30:37", "text": ">> That actually was the sixth, right?"}, {"start": "01:30:34", "end": "01:30:38", "text": ">> The sixth. Um, but"}, {"start": "01:30:37", "end": "01:30:39", "text": ">> Pontis,"}, {"start": "01:30:38", "end": "01:30:40", "text": ">> what was it?"}, {"start": "01:30:39", "end": "01:30:41", "text": ">> Kingdom of Pontius."}, {"start": "01:30:40", "end": "01:30:46", "text": ">> Pontious. What is that?"}, {"start": "01:30:41", "end": "01:30:46", "text": ">> Northern Anatolia. What is that today?"}, {"start": "01:30:46", "end": "01:30:47", "text": ">> Turkey."}, {"start": "01:30:46", "end": "01:30:48", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "01:30:47", "end": "01:30:50", "text": ">> Maybe."}, {"start": "01:30:48", "end": "01:30:53", "text": ">> Oh, if it is, it is Turkey. Yeah. Um,"}, {"start": "01:30:50", "end": "01:30:55", "text": ">> dude, Turkey look like the faux shisel."}, {"start": "01:30:53", "end": "01:30:55", "text": ">> Yeah, Turkey was wild back in the day."}, {"start": "01:30:55", "end": "01:30:57", "text": "Still is."}, {"start": "01:30:55", "end": "01:31:02", "text": ">> Crazy."}, {"start": "01:30:57", "end": "01:31:03", "text": ">> Um, so these Romans were fighting uh"}, {"start": "01:31:02", "end": "01:31:06", "text": "Mithrates"}, {"start": "01:31:03", "end": "01:31:08", "text": "and this king. So, some backstory on"}, {"start": "01:31:06", "end": "01:31:11", "text": "this king. His father was a king. His"}, {"start": "01:31:08", "end": "01:31:14", "text": "father was killed by being poisoned. So"}, {"start": "01:31:11", "end": "01:31:16", "text": "Mithrates was the next in line"}, {"start": "01:31:14", "end": "01:31:19", "text": ">> and was constantly trying to be"}, {"start": "01:31:16", "end": "01:31:20", "text": "assassinated by people in the kingdom"}, {"start": "01:31:19", "end": "01:31:21", "text": "and even his own mother."}, {"start": "01:31:20", "end": "01:31:23", "text": ">> Oh,"}, {"start": "01:31:21", "end": "01:31:23", "text": ">> primarily by poisoning."}, {"start": "01:31:23", "end": "01:31:27", "text": ">> Mhm."}, {"start": "01:31:23", "end": "01:31:29", "text": ">> So he was so crazy about being poisoning"}, {"start": "01:31:27", "end": "01:31:31", "text": "that he decided to take upon himself to"}, {"start": "01:31:29", "end": "01:31:32", "text": "micro dose poisoning."}, {"start": "01:31:31", "end": "01:31:34", "text": ">> Genius. We should start doing that."}, {"start": "01:31:32", "end": "01:31:36", "text": ">> And built an intoler like he built a"}, {"start": "01:31:34", "end": "01:31:37", "text": "tolerance or um yeah tolerance to"}, {"start": "01:31:36", "end": "01:31:41", "text": "poisons."}, {"start": "01:31:37", "end": "01:31:44", "text": ">> Wow. But in this he just became like the"}, {"start": "01:31:41", "end": "01:31:44", "text": "one of the first chemists like of the"}, {"start": "01:31:44", "end": "01:31:45", "text": "world."}, {"start": "01:31:44", "end": "01:31:49", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:31:45", "end": "01:31:51", "text": ">> But what he did was there was a a Roman"}, {"start": "01:31:49", "end": "01:31:53", "text": "a group of Roman soldiers about a"}, {"start": "01:31:51", "end": "01:31:55", "text": "thousand of them that were making their"}, {"start": "01:31:53", "end": "01:31:58", "text": "way towards Mithrates and his kingdom in"}, {"start": "01:31:55", "end": "01:32:02", "text": "these villages. And so what Mithrates"}, {"start": "01:31:58", "end": "01:32:06", "text": "did was he had these um villagers take"}, {"start": "01:32:02", "end": "01:32:08", "text": "what is called mad honey and place it"}, {"start": "01:32:06", "end": "01:32:10", "text": "along the road. these mad honeycombs"}, {"start": "01:32:08", "end": "01:32:12", "text": "along the road. And when you consume it,"}, {"start": "01:32:10", "end": "01:32:15", "text": "it's not an instant thing, but when you"}, {"start": "01:32:12", "end": "01:32:19", "text": "consume it, it contains uh GRA, sorry,"}, {"start": "01:32:15", "end": "01:32:20", "text": "GRA non-toxin. GRA non-toxin."}, {"start": "01:32:19", "end": "01:32:23", "text": "But what this does, it creates"}, {"start": "01:32:20", "end": "01:32:24", "text": "dizziness, vomiting, slow heart rate,"}, {"start": "01:32:23", "end": "01:32:25", "text": "and hallucinations."}, {"start": "01:32:24", "end": "01:32:26", "text": ">> Oh my gosh,"}, {"start": "01:32:25", "end": "01:32:29", "text": ">> what a wild way to go."}, {"start": "01:32:26", "end": "01:32:30", "text": ">> Like like the wasp thing from Vice,"}, {"start": "01:32:29", "end": "01:32:32", "text": ">> the bee thing. Yeah,"}, {"start": "01:32:30", "end": "01:32:35", "text": ">> cuz wasps don't produce honey."}, {"start": "01:32:32", "end": "01:32:35", "text": ">> Whatever. Josh,"}, {"start": "01:32:35", "end": "01:32:37", "text": ">> you know what I'm talking about."}, {"start": "01:32:35", "end": "01:32:41", "text": ">> Wasps. Yeah, I don't know if it's that."}, {"start": "01:32:37", "end": "01:32:42", "text": "I I I think it could possibly be that or"}, {"start": "01:32:41", "end": "01:32:44", "text": "he made their they made their own honey"}, {"start": "01:32:42", "end": "01:32:45", "text": "like they had it"}, {"start": "01:32:44", "end": "01:32:46", "text": ">> the bees like pollinate with certain"}, {"start": "01:32:45", "end": "01:32:48", "text": "plants and whatnot"}, {"start": "01:32:46", "end": "01:32:50", "text": ">> to make this mad honey."}, {"start": "01:32:48", "end": "01:32:52", "text": ">> Anyways, they set it out on the road"}, {"start": "01:32:50", "end": "01:32:53", "text": "these and so they they like retreat and"}, {"start": "01:32:52", "end": "01:32:55", "text": "so the Roman soldiers are like these"}, {"start": "01:32:53", "end": "01:32:57", "text": "guys we're they're afraid of us and like"}, {"start": "01:32:55", "end": "01:32:59", "text": "oh look at honey let's eat it."}, {"start": "01:32:57", "end": "01:33:02", "text": ">> So all these Roman soldiers ate it."}, {"start": "01:32:59", "end": "01:33:05", "text": ">> They were tripping out of their minds"}, {"start": "01:33:02", "end": "01:33:06", "text": "throwing up dizzy. They came back,"}, {"start": "01:33:05", "end": "01:33:07", "text": "killed all the Romans."}, {"start": "01:33:06", "end": "01:33:08", "text": ">> Holy moly."}, {"start": "01:33:07", "end": "01:33:10", "text": ">> Word. Good thinking."}, {"start": "01:33:08", "end": "01:33:11", "text": ">> I mean, that's good. They're defenseless"}, {"start": "01:33:10", "end": "01:33:13", "text": "at that point."}, {"start": "01:33:11", "end": "01:33:15", "text": ">> Yeah. So, yeah, they massacred a"}, {"start": "01:33:13", "end": "01:33:17", "text": "thousand Roman soldiers in that battle"}, {"start": "01:33:15", "end": "01:33:19", "text": "just by Mad Honey."}, {"start": "01:33:17", "end": "01:33:21", "text": ">> But what's crazy,"}, {"start": "01:33:19", "end": "01:33:23", "text": "this is the first known recorded"}, {"start": "01:33:21", "end": "01:33:25", "text": "chemical or biological warfare."}, {"start": "01:33:23", "end": "01:33:26", "text": ">> So, like that's pretty"}, {"start": "01:33:25", "end": "01:33:28", "text": ">> crazy."}, {"start": "01:33:26", "end": "01:33:33", "text": ">> Um, but Mithrides"}, {"start": "01:33:28", "end": "01:33:34", "text": "he Oh. 134 BC. So that's when he was"}, {"start": "01:33:33", "end": "01:33:34", "text": "backing up,"}, {"start": "01:33:34", "end": "01:33:37", "text": ">> right?"}, {"start": "01:33:34", "end": "01:33:41", "text": ">> Um he"}, {"start": "01:33:37", "end": "01:33:43", "text": "was overtaken by Rome finally"}, {"start": "01:33:41", "end": "01:33:46", "text": ">> and he's like, I don't want to be taken"}, {"start": "01:33:43", "end": "01:33:47", "text": "that by them. I'm going to myself."}, {"start": "01:33:46", "end": "01:33:48", "text": ">> So what he tries to do is poison"}, {"start": "01:33:47", "end": "01:33:50", "text": "himself."}, {"start": "01:33:48", "end": "01:33:53", "text": ">> Oh my. He's been micro doing this whole"}, {"start": "01:33:50", "end": "01:33:54", "text": "[ __ ] He can't get rid of himself by"}, {"start": "01:33:53", "end": "01:33:55", "text": "poisoning."}, {"start": "01:33:54", "end": "01:33:56", "text": ">> Oh yeah."}, {"start": "01:33:55", "end": "01:33:57", "text": ">> He tries tries tries. Nothing is"}, {"start": "01:33:56", "end": "01:33:57", "text": "affecting him."}, {"start": "01:33:57", "end": "01:33:59", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:33:57", "end": "01:34:01", "text": ">> He's like, I'm just too good."}, {"start": "01:33:59", "end": "01:34:03", "text": ">> Yeah. That was too good. Dang it."}, {"start": "01:34:01", "end": "01:34:04", "text": ">> So he has his bodyguard."}, {"start": "01:34:03", "end": "01:34:08", "text": ">> Oh my goodness."}, {"start": "01:34:04", "end": "01:34:08", "text": ">> And that is the story of Mithrides."}, {"start": "01:34:08", "end": "01:34:11", "text": ">> Mad honey."}, {"start": "01:34:08", "end": "01:34:13", "text": ">> Wow. It causes double vision, muscular"}, {"start": "01:34:11", "end": "01:34:14", "text": "like like you lose control of"}, {"start": "01:34:13", "end": "01:34:16", "text": "everything. There's like other"}, {"start": "01:34:14", "end": "01:34:18", "text": "neurological stuff and like low blood"}, {"start": "01:34:16", "end": "01:34:20", "text": "pressure. So you're literally just like"}, {"start": "01:34:18", "end": "01:34:22", "text": "can't control yourself and see in two"}, {"start": "01:34:20", "end": "01:34:24", "text": "and you're just like trying to defend"}, {"start": "01:34:22", "end": "01:34:26", "text": "while you know off your rocker."}, {"start": "01:34:24", "end": "01:34:28", "text": ">> There's no such thing as free honey. But"}, {"start": "01:34:26", "end": "01:34:29", "text": "it's apparently it's a honey off of a"}, {"start": "01:34:28", "end": "01:34:30", "text": "certain plant."}, {"start": "01:34:29", "end": "01:34:31", "text": ">> That's crazy."}, {"start": "01:34:30", "end": "01:34:34", "text": ">> Oh, this is fun. In fact, I forgot to"}, {"start": "01:34:31", "end": "01:34:37", "text": "leave out. He developed a complex"}, {"start": "01:34:34", "end": "01:34:37", "text": "antidote called mythrodatium."}, {"start": "01:34:37", "end": "01:34:39", "text": ">> Cool."}, {"start": "01:34:37", "end": "01:34:42", "text": ">> Um, said to contain dozens of"}, {"start": "01:34:39", "end": "01:34:45", "text": "ingredients, herbs, resins, maybe even"}, {"start": "01:34:42", "end": "01:34:50", "text": "even some snake venom, later adapted by"}, {"start": "01:34:45", "end": "01:34:50", "text": "the Romans into the"}, {"start": "01:34:50", "end": "01:34:57", "text": "how do you say that? Theak theak use for"}, {"start": "01:34:54", "end": "01:34:57", "text": "centuries. So like as an antivenenom."}, {"start": "01:34:57", "end": "01:35:00", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "01:34:57", "end": "01:35:01", "text": ">> Like for centuries they used his potion."}, {"start": "01:35:00", "end": "01:35:03", "text": ">> Wow."}, {"start": "01:35:01", "end": "01:35:03", "text": ">> To like So if you get poison you take"}, {"start": "01:35:03", "end": "01:35:05", "text": "this stuff."}, {"start": "01:35:03", "end": "01:35:06", "text": ">> Wow. Yeah. Antivenenom dude."}, {"start": "01:35:05", "end": "01:35:09", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:35:06", "end": "01:35:10", "text": ">> You should start micro doing havirus."}, {"start": "01:35:09", "end": "01:35:11", "text": ">> That's what I'm saying. Just start"}, {"start": "01:35:10", "end": "01:35:13", "text": "kissing some rats."}, {"start": "01:35:11", "end": "01:35:15", "text": ">> Yeah. I've been killing rats in my"}, {"start": "01:35:13", "end": "01:35:17", "text": "garage. So bring them in."}, {"start": "01:35:15", "end": "01:35:20", "text": ">> What were you saying? Li"}, {"start": "01:35:17", "end": "01:35:22", "text": ">> I was thinking about cuz my antivenenom."}, {"start": "01:35:20", "end": "01:35:24", "text": "I have um a very overactive imagination"}, {"start": "01:35:22", "end": "01:35:25", "text": "about terrible things that can happen."}, {"start": "01:35:24", "end": "01:35:26", "text": "Maybe it's unresolved postpartum"}, {"start": "01:35:25", "end": "01:35:27", "text": "anxiety."}, {"start": "01:35:26", "end": "01:35:29", "text": ">> Good self-awareness."}, {"start": "01:35:27", "end": "01:35:30", "text": ">> Um, thank you."}, {"start": "01:35:29", "end": "01:35:32", "text": ">> I'm so scared that my children are going"}, {"start": "01:35:30", "end": "01:35:35", "text": "to be bit by a water moccasin at our"}, {"start": "01:35:32", "end": "01:35:36", "text": "lake and that our local hospital won't"}, {"start": "01:35:35", "end": "01:35:38", "text": "have a moxasin antivenenom. I've been"}, {"start": "01:35:36", "end": "01:35:39", "text": "thinking about calling them and asking"}, {"start": "01:35:38", "end": "01:35:41", "text": "them to stock"}, {"start": "01:35:39", "end": "01:35:43", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:35:41", "end": "01:35:44", "text": ">> antivenenom for moccasins. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:35:43", "end": "01:35:45", "text": ">> In the event,"}, {"start": "01:35:44", "end": "01:35:47", "text": ">> maybe we could stock it and I could"}, {"start": "01:35:45", "end": "01:35:48", "text": "become a chemist and figure out what"}, {"start": "01:35:47", "end": "01:35:49", "text": "kind of dosage they need for"}, {"start": "01:35:48", "end": "01:35:50", "text": "antivenenom. Um,"}, {"start": "01:35:49", "end": "01:35:52", "text": ">> I think they're gonna have a lot of"}, {"start": "01:35:50", "end": "01:35:54", "text": "questions."}, {"start": "01:35:52", "end": "01:35:54", "text": ">> Poisoning a bunch of kids or something."}, {"start": "01:35:54", "end": "01:35:55", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:35:54", "end": "01:35:57", "text": ">> And I only think about that because of"}, {"start": "01:35:55", "end": "01:35:59", "text": "that gentleman. This is so sad, but and"}, {"start": "01:35:57", "end": "01:36:03", "text": "and friends with Kyle Gray who passed"}, {"start": "01:35:59", "end": "01:36:05", "text": "away because he got malaria and came to"}, {"start": "01:36:03", "end": "01:36:06", "text": "America and they couldn't figure out"}, {"start": "01:36:05", "end": "01:36:07", "text": "what's going on with him. And by the"}, {"start": "01:36:06", "end": "01:36:09", "text": "time they figured out that it was"}, {"start": "01:36:07", "end": "01:36:12", "text": "malaria, it was too late because none of"}, {"start": "01:36:09", "end": "01:36:14", "text": "the hospitals stock a cure for malaria"}, {"start": "01:36:12", "end": "01:36:15", "text": "even though there is a cure. The closest"}, {"start": "01:36:14", "end": "01:36:18", "text": "one was in like Tennessee. And I'm like,"}, {"start": "01:36:15", "end": "01:36:19", "text": "malaria is a huge threat to the world"}, {"start": "01:36:18", "end": "01:36:21", "text": "population. Then why doesn't every"}, {"start": "01:36:19", "end": "01:36:21", "text": "hospital have a malaria cure?"}, {"start": "01:36:21", "end": "01:36:23", "text": ">> That's actually"}, {"start": "01:36:21", "end": "01:36:25", "text": ">> or like yeah got a malaria button like"}, {"start": "01:36:23", "end": "01:36:26", "text": ">> I promise you central Florida has"}, {"start": "01:36:25", "end": "01:36:28", "text": "moccasin antib"}, {"start": "01:36:26", "end": "01:36:30", "text": ">> for sure. And if not they would airlift"}, {"start": "01:36:28", "end": "01:36:31", "text": "you to like Orlando where they for sure."}, {"start": "01:36:30", "end": "01:36:31", "text": ">> Is it going to be fast enough? I don't"}, {"start": "01:36:31", "end": "01:36:32", "text": "know."}, {"start": "01:36:31", "end": "01:36:34", "text": ">> Promise you."}, {"start": "01:36:32", "end": "01:36:36", "text": ">> Yeah. It's not it's not like a kind of"}, {"start": "01:36:34", "end": "01:36:37", "text": "thing. It's like your leg starts"}, {"start": "01:36:36", "end": "01:36:37", "text": "swelling up."}, {"start": "01:36:37", "end": "01:36:38", "text": ">> You got time."}, {"start": "01:36:37", "end": "01:36:40", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "01:36:38", "end": "01:36:43", "text": ">> You got like dudes get like bit hunting"}, {"start": "01:36:40", "end": "01:36:45", "text": "way out in the woods and have time to"}, {"start": "01:36:43", "end": "01:36:47", "text": "keep their heart rate low and get back."}, {"start": "01:36:45", "end": "01:36:48", "text": ">> I'm an extremely paranoid person."}, {"start": "01:36:47", "end": "01:36:49", "text": ">> No. No, she's not."}, {"start": "01:36:48", "end": "01:36:51", "text": ">> I don't think so."}, {"start": "01:36:49", "end": "01:36:54", "text": ">> Speaking of being extremely paranoid, I"}, {"start": "01:36:51", "end": "01:36:58", "text": "want to connect your story of the Leche"}, {"start": "01:36:54", "end": "01:37:00", "text": ">> to Native Alaskan culture across the"}, {"start": "01:36:58", "end": "01:37:01", "text": "Bearing Straight cuz they have something"}, {"start": "01:37:00", "end": "01:37:03", "text": "that's almost identical."}, {"start": "01:37:01", "end": "01:37:05", "text": ">> That's pretty close to Russia."}, {"start": "01:37:03", "end": "01:37:07", "text": ">> That's what I'm saying. And isn't it"}, {"start": "01:37:05", "end": "01:37:09", "text": "weird in a completely different time"}, {"start": "01:37:07", "end": "01:37:11", "text": "across the sea, they have the same"}, {"start": "01:37:09", "end": "01:37:11", "text": "stories of very similar crypted. So,"}, {"start": "01:37:11", "end": "01:37:12", "text": "yeah,"}, {"start": "01:37:11", "end": "01:37:14", "text": ">> I'm going to just tell the story. I'll"}, {"start": "01:37:12", "end": "01:37:17", "text": "give you the name later. Um, there's a"}, {"start": "01:37:14", "end": "01:37:19", "text": "fisherman near Sitka. He's native and"}, {"start": "01:37:17", "end": "01:37:21", "text": "he's checking his crab pots. He's going"}, {"start": "01:37:19", "end": "01:37:23", "text": "along the shoreline. Um, and he said"}, {"start": "01:37:21", "end": "01:37:24", "text": "there's like a fog that rolled in. Now,"}, {"start": "01:37:23", "end": "01:37:27", "text": "this is part of their oral tradition."}, {"start": "01:37:24", "end": "01:37:29", "text": "So, there's no name to this man. Um, you"}, {"start": "01:37:27", "end": "01:37:31", "text": "know, take it or leave it, but this is"}, {"start": "01:37:29", "end": "01:37:33", "text": "this is how the story they tell goes."}, {"start": "01:37:31", "end": "01:37:36", "text": "And so, the fog rolls in. He's working."}, {"start": "01:37:33", "end": "01:37:39", "text": "He hears what sounded like a child"}, {"start": "01:37:36", "end": "01:37:42", "text": "crying from the treeine. And so, he"}, {"start": "01:37:39", "end": "01:37:44", "text": "quits with his crabbing. He docks his"}, {"start": "01:37:42", "end": "01:37:45", "text": "boat on the shore. Um, it didn't make"}, {"start": "01:37:44", "end": "01:37:47", "text": "sense. There was no houses, no camps."}, {"start": "01:37:45", "end": "01:37:49", "text": "He's out in the wilderness like far away"}, {"start": "01:37:47", "end": "01:37:50", "text": "from everything. He ignored it at first."}, {"start": "01:37:49", "end": "01:37:52", "text": "He's like, \"Maybe it's like a weird bird"}, {"start": "01:37:50", "end": "01:37:53", "text": "or something that's like just messing"}, {"start": "01:37:52", "end": "01:37:55", "text": "with my head and I heard it weird, but"}, {"start": "01:37:53", "end": "01:37:57", "text": "it gets louder and louder and it seemed"}, {"start": "01:37:55", "end": "01:37:58", "text": "like it was being carried in on the"}, {"start": "01:37:57", "end": "01:38:01", "text": "fog.\" He's like, \"All right, this is"}, {"start": "01:37:58", "end": "01:38:03", "text": "weird.\" Um, so he hears it. This time"}, {"start": "01:38:01", "end": "01:38:05", "text": "it's clear. Um, and then instead of just"}, {"start": "01:38:03", "end": "01:38:07", "text": "a baby crying, he begins to hear a kid's"}, {"start": "01:38:05", "end": "01:38:09", "text": "voice and he's like, and then he he"}, {"start": "01:38:07", "end": "01:38:11", "text": "starts to distinguish language in the in"}, {"start": "01:38:09", "end": "01:38:14", "text": "the sound. He's like, \"It's a kid"}, {"start": "01:38:11", "end": "01:38:15", "text": "calling for help.\" Um, so he walks a"}, {"start": "01:38:14", "end": "01:38:18", "text": "little closer on the shore to the wood"}, {"start": "01:38:15", "end": "01:38:20", "text": "line. He's trying to see into the trees,"}, {"start": "01:38:18", "end": "01:38:22", "text": "like, you know, cautiously, but he's"}, {"start": "01:38:20", "end": "01:38:24", "text": "like, \"What's what's over here?\" And,"}, {"start": "01:38:22", "end": "01:38:26", "text": "uh, the crying stops as he approaches"}, {"start": "01:38:24", "end": "01:38:28", "text": "the trees. And instead of the kid's"}, {"start": "01:38:26", "end": "01:38:30", "text": "voice calling for help, the voice"}, {"start": "01:38:28", "end": "01:38:33", "text": "changes a little, and he heard his"}, {"start": "01:38:30", "end": "01:38:36", "text": "brother's voice clear as day, calling"}, {"start": "01:38:33", "end": "01:38:38", "text": "his name, asking him to come in deeper."}, {"start": "01:38:36", "end": "01:38:40", "text": ">> Oh my goodness. And he's like lives near"}, {"start": "01:38:38", "end": "01:38:42", "text": "his brother, like he's they're they hunt"}, {"start": "01:38:40", "end": "01:38:44", "text": "together or what? doesn't make sense."}, {"start": "01:38:42", "end": "01:38:46", "text": "Doesn't make sense."}, {"start": "01:38:44", "end": "01:38:48", "text": ">> So, that's when he said it hit him. He's"}, {"start": "01:38:46", "end": "01:38:49", "text": "like, it's he said it wasn't like fear,"}, {"start": "01:38:48", "end": "01:38:51", "text": "but just like an uncanny feeling,"}, {"start": "01:38:49", "end": "01:38:53", "text": "basically is how he described it. Um or"}, {"start": "01:38:51", "end": "01:38:56", "text": "how they tell it. More like something"}, {"start": "01:38:53", "end": "01:39:00", "text": "was uh something didn't belong. He later"}, {"start": "01:38:56", "end": "01:39:02", "text": "described as realizing um he was being"}, {"start": "01:39:00", "end": "01:39:05", "text": "he says he was being pulled into the"}, {"start": "01:39:02", "end": "01:39:07", "text": "forest like not physically but there was"}, {"start": "01:39:05", "end": "01:39:08", "text": "this emotional thing that was happening"}, {"start": "01:39:07", "end": "01:39:09", "text": ">> hypnotized"}, {"start": "01:39:08", "end": "01:39:12", "text": ">> where it was like it was like I'm going"}, {"start": "01:39:09", "end": "01:39:13", "text": "to play on every human emotion you have"}, {"start": "01:39:12", "end": "01:39:15", "text": "to make you feel like it's your"}, {"start": "01:39:13", "end": "01:39:17", "text": "responsibility to come deeper into the"}, {"start": "01:39:15", "end": "01:39:18", "text": "woods like that's how it played so it"}, {"start": "01:39:17", "end": "01:39:20", "text": "starts as a baby I need to protect this"}, {"start": "01:39:18", "end": "01:39:22", "text": "baby then it's a kid help I can help a"}, {"start": "01:39:20", "end": "01:39:24", "text": "kid and now it's like okay he's not"}, {"start": "01:39:22", "end": "01:39:26", "text": "coming in let's go personal like I'm"}, {"start": "01:39:24", "end": "01:39:28", "text": "going to use the voice of his brother"}, {"start": "01:39:26", "end": "01:39:31", "text": ">> and that it pulls him deeper in."}, {"start": "01:39:28", "end": "01:39:32", "text": ">> And so right as soon as he like it it"}, {"start": "01:39:31", "end": "01:39:34", "text": "all kind of clicks to him before he"}, {"start": "01:39:32", "end": "01:39:37", "text": "steps in the woods he's like I remember"}, {"start": "01:39:34", "end": "01:39:39", "text": "the stories of my ancestors and uh it's"}, {"start": "01:39:37", "end": "01:39:41", "text": "called the Kushtaka and instead of going"}, {"start": "01:39:39", "end": "01:39:44", "text": "toward the voice turned around got back"}, {"start": "01:39:41", "end": "01:39:46", "text": "in his boat hauled off and uh as soon as"}, {"start": "01:39:44", "end": "01:39:49", "text": "he pushed off he said he saw movement on"}, {"start": "01:39:46", "end": "01:39:51", "text": "the shoreline low dark shapes moving"}, {"start": "01:39:49", "end": "01:39:53", "text": "away that weren't quite human or quite"}, {"start": "01:39:51", "end": "01:39:55", "text": "animal. There wasn't a clear face,"}, {"start": "01:39:53", "end": "01:39:57", "text": "wasn't a clear form. It was just"}, {"start": "01:39:55", "end": "01:39:59", "text": "something watching, but as soon as he"}, {"start": "01:39:57", "end": "01:40:00", "text": "pushed off from the shore, the voices"}, {"start": "01:39:59", "end": "01:40:02", "text": "stopped. So the entire time they were"}, {"start": "01:40:00", "end": "01:40:03", "text": "calling, calling calling and then"}, {"start": "01:40:02", "end": "01:40:05", "text": "getting louder and starting to stir. And"}, {"start": "01:40:03", "end": "01:40:09", "text": "as soon as he pushed away, they gave up."}, {"start": "01:40:05", "end": "01:40:12", "text": "And so there's this legend of a creature"}, {"start": "01:40:09", "end": "01:40:16", "text": "that's uh half like otter, half human,"}, {"start": "01:40:12", "end": "01:40:19", "text": "and can become either fully otter or"}, {"start": "01:40:16", "end": "01:40:22", "text": "fully human or a mix of the two."}, {"start": "01:40:19", "end": "01:40:24", "text": ">> But it's it it kind of does the same"}, {"start": "01:40:22", "end": "01:40:26", "text": "emotional thing. It kind of protects the"}, {"start": "01:40:24", "end": "01:40:28", "text": "forest in the same sort of way. I just"}, {"start": "01:40:26", "end": "01:40:31", "text": "think it's really crazy that they have"}, {"start": "01:40:28", "end": "01:40:33", "text": "the same stories of the same tools to"}, {"start": "01:40:31", "end": "01:40:35", "text": "lure people deeper into the forest in"}, {"start": "01:40:33", "end": "01:40:37", "text": "Alaska with their native people as they"}, {"start": "01:40:35", "end": "01:40:41", "text": "do in Russia with the lei. It's"}, {"start": "01:40:37", "end": "01:40:44", "text": "absolutely insane. Um, and uh I'm trying"}, {"start": "01:40:41", "end": "01:40:47", "text": "to remember the name of the creature."}, {"start": "01:40:44", "end": "01:40:49", "text": "Um, they put them on totems. Um, I don't"}, {"start": "01:40:47", "end": "01:40:52", "text": "know how to say this. Uh, these stories"}, {"start": "01:40:49", "end": "01:40:55", "text": "come from the cling. TLI and GIT people"}, {"start": "01:40:52", "end": "01:40:55", "text": "and other southeastern Alaskan groups."}, {"start": "01:40:55", "end": "01:40:59", "text": ">> Cool."}, {"start": "01:40:55", "end": "01:41:02", "text": ">> But these are some of the uh the forms"}, {"start": "01:40:59", "end": "01:41:03", "text": "that are associated with I believe"}, {"start": "01:41:02", "end": "01:41:04", "text": ">> uh scary"}, {"start": "01:41:03", "end": "01:41:07", "text": ">> with these stories."}, {"start": "01:41:04", "end": "01:41:10", "text": ">> That doesn't look like an otter."}, {"start": "01:41:07", "end": "01:41:13", "text": ">> Gosh, scary."}, {"start": "01:41:10", "end": "01:41:15", "text": ">> How about the the the face opening up?"}, {"start": "01:41:13", "end": "01:41:16", "text": ">> Yeah, that is"}, {"start": "01:41:15", "end": "01:41:18", "text": ">> that's terrifying. Could you imagine?"}, {"start": "01:41:16", "end": "01:41:21", "text": "That's not the there's another thing I"}, {"start": "01:41:18", "end": "01:41:23", "text": "had that is connected to that and the"}, {"start": "01:41:21", "end": "01:41:25", "text": "Leche as well. It's in the Appalachian"}, {"start": "01:41:23", "end": "01:41:27", "text": "Mountains and they're they call them"}, {"start": "01:41:25", "end": "01:41:29", "text": "it's basically a broad term but they"}, {"start": "01:41:27", "end": "01:41:30", "text": "call it the don't look at them"}, {"start": "01:41:29", "end": "01:41:32", "text": ">> don't look at it entities."}, {"start": "01:41:30", "end": "01:41:34", "text": ">> Oh my gosh, I'm covered in goosebumps."}, {"start": "01:41:32", "end": "01:41:34", "text": ">> That's that is a great theory for a"}, {"start": "01:41:34", "end": "01:41:37", "text": "home."}, {"start": "01:41:34", "end": "01:41:39", "text": ">> Um but they said the quote is if you"}, {"start": "01:41:37", "end": "01:41:41", "text": "hear something if you hear or sense"}, {"start": "01:41:39", "end": "01:41:43", "text": "something out there don't look at it."}, {"start": "01:41:41", "end": "01:41:45", "text": ">> Oh my gosh. Uh, and the common traits of"}, {"start": "01:41:43", "end": "01:41:47", "text": "the don't look at it entities. They call"}, {"start": "01:41:45", "end": "01:41:50", "text": "your name from the woods, mimicking"}, {"start": "01:41:47", "end": "01:41:52", "text": "someone that you know, making strange"}, {"start": "01:41:50", "end": "01:41:55", "text": "noises that uh that are just off the"}, {"start": "01:41:52", "end": "01:41:59", "text": "trail. Um, but these stories come from"}, {"start": "01:41:55", "end": "01:42:02", "text": "like Scot Scotch uh ScotsIrish, English"}, {"start": "01:41:59", "end": "01:42:04", "text": "folklore, German immigrants, and"}, {"start": "01:42:02", "end": "01:42:05", "text": "indigenous Appalachian beliefs."}, {"start": "01:42:04", "end": "01:42:06", "text": ">> Okay."}, {"start": "01:42:05", "end": "01:42:07", "text": ">> So, it's not just like one group of"}, {"start": "01:42:06", "end": "01:42:08", "text": "people."}, {"start": "01:42:07", "end": "01:42:09", "text": ">> Yeah. It's everybody that lived in"}, {"start": "01:42:08", "end": "01:42:09", "text": "Appalachia then."}, {"start": "01:42:09", "end": "01:42:11", "text": ">> Yeah. um"}, {"start": "01:42:09", "end": "01:42:13", "text": ">> like immigrated or born."}, {"start": "01:42:11", "end": "01:42:17", "text": ">> But basically these things they they"}, {"start": "01:42:13", "end": "01:42:19", "text": "mimic people um and if you look at them"}, {"start": "01:42:17", "end": "01:42:19", "text": "people disappear."}, {"start": "01:42:19", "end": "01:42:21", "text": ">> Oh my gosh."}, {"start": "01:42:19", "end": "01:42:22", "text": ">> And what's so creepy too is that like I"}, {"start": "01:42:21", "end": "01:42:23", "text": "think we've talked about it before the"}, {"start": "01:42:22", "end": "01:42:25", "text": "Appalachian Mountains are like some of"}, {"start": "01:42:23", "end": "01:42:26", "text": "the oldest mountains in the world."}, {"start": "01:42:25", "end": "01:42:27", "text": ">> They're scary. A lot of scary tales"}, {"start": "01:42:26", "end": "01:42:29", "text": "dude."}, {"start": "01:42:27", "end": "01:42:33", "text": ">> And so it's like you get these stories"}, {"start": "01:42:29", "end": "01:42:36", "text": "primarily from the Europe Asia area,"}, {"start": "01:42:33", "end": "01:42:37", "text": "right? That was they believe at some"}, {"start": "01:42:36", "end": "01:42:39", "text": "point the Appalachian Mountains were"}, {"start": "01:42:37", "end": "01:42:41", "text": "like a part of like up there by England"}, {"start": "01:42:39", "end": "01:42:43", "text": "and stuff and it just split."}, {"start": "01:42:41", "end": "01:42:45", "text": ">> Wow. Shut the front door."}, {"start": "01:42:43", "end": "01:42:46", "text": ">> So it's like could something have been"}, {"start": "01:42:45", "end": "01:42:49", "text": "carried over?"}, {"start": "01:42:46", "end": "01:42:53", "text": ">> This dude don't even know about Pangia"}, {"start": "01:42:49", "end": "01:42:54", "text": "about Pangia. Um but yeah, they they"}, {"start": "01:42:53", "end": "01:42:57", "text": "have a couple theories of like what they"}, {"start": "01:42:54", "end": "01:42:58", "text": "could be. They call like spirits or"}, {"start": "01:42:57", "end": "01:43:00", "text": "hints. Is that a thing?"}, {"start": "01:42:58", "end": "01:43:02", "text": ">> Oh my gosh. Yes, we talked about that"}, {"start": "01:43:00", "end": "01:43:04", "text": "from sinners. She thought it was a hint,"}, {"start": "01:43:02", "end": "01:43:06", "text": "but it turns out to be vampires."}, {"start": "01:43:04", "end": "01:43:08", "text": ">> Yeah, it's a hint. But there's um"}, {"start": "01:43:06", "end": "01:43:12", "text": "listen, I was telling you the other day"}, {"start": "01:43:08", "end": "01:43:14", "text": "about the southern porches. It's a a"}, {"start": "01:43:12", "end": "01:43:17", "text": "thing, an old thing that we would do as"}, {"start": "01:43:14", "end": "01:43:19", "text": "southerners. You paint the ceiling of"}, {"start": "01:43:17", "end": "01:43:21", "text": "your porch blue"}, {"start": "01:43:19", "end": "01:43:23", "text": ">> to protect from hints. What's a hint?"}, {"start": "01:43:21", "end": "01:43:25", "text": "Can somebody cover that next week?"}, {"start": "01:43:23", "end": "01:43:28", "text": ">> I hate"}, {"start": "01:43:25", "end": "01:43:28", "text": ">> um also that's silly cuz we got we got"}, {"start": "01:43:28", "end": "01:43:30", "text": "Jesus."}, {"start": "01:43:28", "end": "01:43:31", "text": ">> I got that blood above my door frame."}, {"start": "01:43:30", "end": "01:43:32", "text": ">> Oh. scared"}, {"start": "01:43:31", "end": "01:43:34", "text": ">> and my windows are crooked."}, {"start": "01:43:32", "end": "01:43:36", "text": ">> But the indigenous people believe that"}, {"start": "01:43:34", "end": "01:43:38", "text": "they were forest spirits, trickster"}, {"start": "01:43:36", "end": "01:43:40", "text": "beings, or territorial entities, which"}, {"start": "01:43:38", "end": "01:43:42", "text": "lines up with Teleti and this thing."}, {"start": "01:43:40", "end": "01:43:44", "text": ">> Don't they call them mimics, too? Isn't"}, {"start": "01:43:42", "end": "01:43:45", "text": "that something out of Appalachia?"}, {"start": "01:43:44", "end": "01:43:46", "text": ">> Yes, dude. Did you see that video?"}, {"start": "01:43:45", "end": "01:43:48", "text": ">> That's very scary."}, {"start": "01:43:46", "end": "01:43:51", "text": ">> Did you see that video of the girl? I"}, {"start": "01:43:48", "end": "01:43:54", "text": "bet it was made up, but it haunted me"}, {"start": "01:43:51", "end": "01:43:55", "text": "for so long. And Josh had seen it, too."}, {"start": "01:43:54", "end": "01:43:57", "text": "And I couldn't even get the words out. I"}, {"start": "01:43:55", "end": "01:43:59", "text": "was so scared to talk to him about it."}, {"start": "01:43:57", "end": "01:44:03", "text": "But the girl was in her barn at"}, {"start": "01:43:59", "end": "01:44:05", "text": "nighttime in Appalachia feeding like her"}, {"start": "01:44:03", "end": "01:44:06", "text": "cow or her pig."}, {"start": "01:44:05", "end": "01:44:09", "text": ">> Yeah. Yeah."}, {"start": "01:44:06", "end": "01:44:10", "text": ">> And she pan she's she hears a wrestle."}, {"start": "01:44:09", "end": "01:44:16", "text": "She pans up. Oh my gosh. I'm scared"}, {"start": "01:44:10", "end": "01:44:18", "text": "talking. She pans up and it's her in the"}, {"start": "01:44:16", "end": "01:44:18", "text": "corner facing the wall like Blair Witch"}, {"start": "01:44:18", "end": "01:44:20", "text": "Project."}, {"start": "01:44:18", "end": "01:44:23", "text": ">> Blair Witch baby."}, {"start": "01:44:20", "end": "01:44:23", "text": ">> And she goes and she's like backing up"}, {"start": "01:44:23", "end": "01:44:24", "text": "and running out."}, {"start": "01:44:23", "end": "01:44:25", "text": ">> She runs her car."}, {"start": "01:44:24", "end": "01:44:27", "text": ">> She runs to her car."}, {"start": "01:44:25", "end": "01:44:28", "text": ">> Car doesn't start. doesn't start."}, {"start": "01:44:27", "end": "01:44:29", "text": ">> Oh no."}, {"start": "01:44:28", "end": "01:44:30", "text": ">> And they all the comments are like,"}, {"start": "01:44:29", "end": "01:44:32", "text": "\"That's a mimic. That's a mimic.\" And"}, {"start": "01:44:30", "end": "01:44:34", "text": "I'm like, \"Josh, it's a mimic.\""}, {"start": "01:44:32", "end": "01:44:36", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:44:34", "end": "01:44:38", "text": ">> And there's there's What's the rule for?"}, {"start": "01:44:36", "end": "01:44:39", "text": "Is it don't look at it or is there"}, {"start": "01:44:38", "end": "01:44:41", "text": "something I think there's a rule with"}, {"start": "01:44:39", "end": "01:44:43", "text": "mimics? Like you're not allowed to talk"}, {"start": "01:44:41", "end": "01:44:44", "text": "to them or call There's something."}, {"start": "01:44:43", "end": "01:44:45", "text": ">> It was the opposite. I thought you did"}, {"start": "01:44:44", "end": "01:44:46", "text": "call them out."}, {"start": "01:44:45", "end": "01:44:46", "text": ">> I can't remember. Like I know what you"}, {"start": "01:44:46", "end": "01:44:49", "text": "are."}, {"start": "01:44:46", "end": "01:44:51", "text": ">> Oh my gosh. I'd say I repeat Jesus."}, {"start": "01:44:49", "end": "01:44:51", "text": ">> Yeah. The cross."}, {"start": "01:44:51", "end": "01:44:53", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:44:51", "end": "01:44:54", "text": ">> I'm looking I'm looking it up."}, {"start": "01:44:53", "end": "01:44:57", "text": ">> Yeah. We'll we'll dive into mimics and"}, {"start": "01:44:54", "end": "01:44:58", "text": "hates. I feel like that's a good a good"}, {"start": "01:44:57", "end": "01:44:59", "text": "little"}, {"start": "01:44:58", "end": "01:45:01", "text": ">> sounds like it's so close to a"}, {"start": "01:44:59", "end": "01:45:02", "text": "derogatory term,"}, {"start": "01:45:01", "end": "01:45:03", "text": ">> doesn't it?"}, {"start": "01:45:02", "end": "01:45:04", "text": ">> Yeah, it feels bad to say it."}, {"start": "01:45:03", "end": "01:45:06", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:45:04", "end": "01:45:06", "text": ">> I uh I will take an anti-anxiety for"}, {"start": "01:45:06", "end": "01:45:07", "text": "that episode."}, {"start": "01:45:06", "end": "01:45:08", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:45:07", "end": "01:45:09", "text": ">> So, warn me ahead of time."}, {"start": "01:45:08", "end": "01:45:11", "text": ">> Speaking of anti-anxiety for an episode,"}, {"start": "01:45:09", "end": "01:45:14", "text": "we got an episode right after this,"}, {"start": "01:45:11", "end": "01:45:16", "text": "folks, on patreon.com/ninjas or"}, {"start": "01:45:14", "end": "01:45:17", "text": "butterflies. Our dolphins are aliens."}, {"start": "01:45:16", "end": "01:45:19", "text": "Half episodes, baby."}, {"start": "01:45:17", "end": "01:45:21", "text": ">> Yes, we talk about things that we didn't"}, {"start": "01:45:19", "end": "01:45:22", "text": "cover on here. It's a little more fun, a"}, {"start": "01:45:21", "end": "01:45:24", "text": "little more relaxed. Lily lets"}, {"start": "01:45:22", "end": "01:45:25", "text": "everything fly on there. Yes, it's"}, {"start": "01:45:24", "end": "01:45:27", "text": "Patreon, babe."}, {"start": "01:45:25", "end": "01:45:27", "text": ">> It's Patreon. And guess what I'm gonna"}, {"start": "01:45:27", "end": "01:45:28", "text": "be talking about?"}, {"start": "01:45:27", "end": "01:45:31", "text": ">> What you going to talk about?"}, {"start": "01:45:28", "end": "01:45:33", "text": ">> So, last week on our Patreon episode,"}, {"start": "01:45:31", "end": "01:45:36", "text": "our homeboy Keith, he gave us these uh"}, {"start": "01:45:33", "end": "01:45:36", "text": "these Metazoo cards. They're cryptids."}, {"start": "01:45:36", "end": "01:45:39", "text": ">> Yes."}, {"start": "01:45:36", "end": "01:45:41", "text": ">> And uh we pulled a pack yesterday and I"}, {"start": "01:45:39", "end": "01:45:43", "text": "chose a crypted out of it to talk about."}, {"start": "01:45:41", "end": "01:45:44", "text": ">> So, and I'm going to pull more."}, {"start": "01:45:43", "end": "01:45:46", "text": ">> Hey, every week."}, {"start": "01:45:44", "end": "01:45:47", "text": ">> Every week."}, {"start": "01:45:46", "end": "01:45:50", "text": ">> Uh Lily,"}, {"start": "01:45:47", "end": "01:45:51", "text": ">> I'm going to talk about Elvis being an"}, {"start": "01:45:50", "end": "01:45:55", "text": "oult wizard."}, {"start": "01:45:51", "end": "01:45:56", "text": ">> Oo. All right. I like that."}, {"start": "01:45:55", "end": "01:45:57", "text": ">> Um, so yeah, guys, go to"}, {"start": "01:45:56", "end": "01:45:59", "text": "patreon.com/ninjas"}, {"start": "01:45:57", "end": "01:45:59", "text": "orb butterflies."}, {"start": "01:45:59", "end": "01:46:00", "text": ">> Uh,"}, {"start": "01:45:59", "end": "01:46:02", "text": ">> we got some things happening there in"}, {"start": "01:46:00", "end": "01:46:04", "text": "the next couple weeks, next month. Yeah,"}, {"start": "01:46:02", "end": "01:46:04", "text": "some changes are going to be happening."}, {"start": "01:46:04", "end": "01:46:07", "text": "Good changes."}, {"start": "01:46:04", "end": "01:46:09", "text": ">> Good changes. Really awesome changes."}, {"start": "01:46:07", "end": "01:46:11", "text": ">> Unless you're an editor."}, {"start": "01:46:09", "end": "01:46:13", "text": ">> Um, but uh hopefully we got a new shirt"}, {"start": "01:46:11", "end": "01:46:16", "text": "coming through. Dolphins Aliens. That'd"}, {"start": "01:46:13", "end": "01:46:17", "text": "be kind of fun. Yeah. So, um,"}, {"start": "01:46:16", "end": "01:46:18", "text": ">> go ahead."}, {"start": "01:46:17", "end": "01:46:18", "text": ">> Go."}, {"start": "01:46:18", "end": "01:46:20", "text": ">> Your turn."}, {"start": "01:46:18", "end": "01:46:22", "text": ">> Go to go to"}, {"start": "01:46:20", "end": "01:46:24", "text": ">> sendagwag.com."}, {"start": "01:46:22", "end": "01:46:25", "text": "Get Ninja merch. If you uh love the"}, {"start": "01:46:24", "end": "01:46:28", "text": "podcast, you're gonna love our merch."}, {"start": "01:46:25", "end": "01:46:30", "text": ">> Or if you your organization, your"}, {"start": "01:46:28", "end": "01:46:32", "text": "company, whatever, orders custom"}, {"start": "01:46:30", "end": "01:46:34", "text": "apparel, custom t-shirts, hats,"}, {"start": "01:46:32", "end": "01:46:37", "text": "stickers, whatever. Go to sundaycool.com"}, {"start": "01:46:34", "end": "01:46:38", "text": "and start your order today. You go to a"}, {"start": "01:46:37", "end": "01:46:40", "text": "school, you you know somebody that runs"}, {"start": "01:46:38", "end": "01:46:41", "text": "a business. You go to your favorite"}, {"start": "01:46:40", "end": "01:46:44", "text": "restaurant. They sell merch and hats and"}, {"start": "01:46:41", "end": "01:46:46", "text": "stuff. Guess what? Tell them about"}, {"start": "01:46:44", "end": "01:46:48", "text": "Sunday school. Let us print their shirts"}, {"start": "01:46:46", "end": "01:46:48", "text": "and their hats and their stickers. We"}, {"start": "01:46:48", "end": "01:46:50", "text": "can do it."}, {"start": "01:46:48", "end": "01:46:51", "text": ">> Everybody's had like that conversation"}, {"start": "01:46:50", "end": "01:46:53", "text": "where like, \"Oh, that'd be sick on a"}, {"start": "01:46:51", "end": "01:46:55", "text": "shirt. Cool thing is we have artists"}, {"start": "01:46:53", "end": "01:46:58", "text": "here. So all you have to do is say I"}, {"start": "01:46:55", "end": "01:46:59", "text": "want this on a shirt and we can do it."}, {"start": "01:46:58", "end": "01:47:01", "text": "Well said, Andrew."}, {"start": "01:46:59", "end": "01:47:02", "text": ">> Yes. Yes."}, {"start": "01:47:01", "end": "01:47:02", "text": ">> What do you have to say"}, {"start": "01:47:02", "end": "01:47:04", "text": ">> about Sunday cool?"}, {"start": "01:47:02", "end": "01:47:04", "text": ">> About anything?"}, {"start": "01:47:04", "end": "01:47:05", "text": ">> Um"}, {"start": "01:47:04", "end": "01:47:09", "text": ">> final words."}, {"start": "01:47:05", "end": "01:47:10", "text": ">> Oh my gosh. Happy to be here."}, {"start": "01:47:09", "end": "01:47:11", "text": "Happy to be alive."}, {"start": "01:47:10", "end": "01:47:11", "text": ">> Accepting award."}, {"start": "01:47:11", "end": "01:47:13", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "01:47:11", "end": "01:47:14", "text": ">> Hey, I want to plug this real quick."}, {"start": "01:47:13", "end": "01:47:16", "text": "Well, I'll give you some time. You"}, {"start": "01:47:14", "end": "01:47:18", "text": "ready? You got like 15 seconds. No, you"}, {"start": "01:47:16", "end": "01:47:21", "text": "got you 15 seconds to come up with your"}, {"start": "01:47:18", "end": "01:47:23", "text": "words. I think you guys might have"}, {"start": "01:47:21", "end": "01:47:25", "text": "encountered a mimic as I'm reading what"}, {"start": "01:47:23", "end": "01:47:26", "text": "they do and I'm gonna talk about it on"}, {"start": "01:47:25", "end": "01:47:28", "text": "Patreon."}, {"start": "01:47:26", "end": "01:47:28", "text": "Fun."}, {"start": "01:47:28", "end": "01:47:30", "text": ">> All right."}, {"start": "01:47:28", "end": "01:47:33", "text": ">> All right. We love you. Jesus loves you."}, {"start": "01:47:30", "end": "01:47:34", "text": "We'll see you on Patreon."}, {"start": "01:47:33", "end": "01:47:37", "text": ">> Not even joking."}, {"start": "01:47:34", "end": "01:47:39", "text": ">> Oh my gosh. I don't even know if I want"}, {"start": "01:47:37", "end": "01:47:41", "text": ">> what you're about to see."}, {"start": "01:47:39", "end": "01:47:43", "text": ">> Can I disturb you?"}, {"start": "01:47:41", "end": "01:47:46", "text": ">> If any of you know what these"}, {"start": "01:47:43", "end": "01:47:47", "text": "multi-deade UAPs are, aliens."}, {"start": "01:47:46", "end": "01:47:50", "text": ">> Have a heart attack when you see your"}, {"start": "01:47:47", "end": "01:47:51", "text": "life. Bottlenose fish."}, {"start": "01:47:50", "end": "01:47:52", "text": ">> There's a massive police responder."}, {"start": "01:47:51", "end": "01:47:53", "text": ">> Oh, the dolphin thing."}, {"start": "01:47:52", "end": "01:47:57", "text": ">> Oh my god."}, {"start": "01:47:53", "end": "01:47:57", "text": ">> Dolphin style attack."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "St. Mary from Egypt. She was a very"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "promiscuous young lady. Fornication all"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:08", "text": "in the holy city of Jerusalem. She comes"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "to the church of the holy supplr where"}, {"start": "00:00:08", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "the cross is going. Doors open. She goes"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "to walk in. She cannot pass through the"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "doorway. She looks and she sees an icon"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "of Mary and Jesus. Instantly hears all"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "of her sin and she says, \"I repent. I"}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "won't do this anymore.\" She devotes her"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "whole life to just serving Christ. 40"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "years later, there was this priest"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "during Holy Week. He would walk through"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:31", "text": "the desert outside of Jerusalem. First"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "he sees this figure in the desert and"}, {"start": "00:00:31", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "there was a woman. She knew everything"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "about him. He said that she was so wise"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "in the scriptures and she says I don't"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "know how to read or write. Mary has"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:41", "text": "taught me everything about Christ."}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:43", "text": ">> Holy moly."}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:45", "text": ">> She said for 17 years I was battling"}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "with lust until it finally broke. And so"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "now my whole life is just dedicated to"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "Christ. All I ask of you, you don't come"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "back out here until next year and please"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "bring me Eucharist, the Holy Communion"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "cuz for I've never taken it. Comes back"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "after a year. She takes communion for"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:01", "text": "the first time. a year later comes back,"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "finds her dead in the exact same spot,"}, {"start": "00:01:01", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "but in the ground written beside her"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "says the date of which she died and uh"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:10", "text": "bury me here. So, she had been laying in"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "that spot for a whole year after taking"}, {"start": "00:01:10", "end": "00:01:13", "text": "communion, but her body was completely"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:15", "text": "uncorrupted, but the ground was just"}, {"start": "00:01:13", "end": "00:01:18", "text": "super hard and super rocky. Lion walks"}, {"start": "00:01:15", "end": "00:01:20", "text": "up to Mary and licks her feet and he"}, {"start": "00:01:18", "end": "00:01:21", "text": "says, \"Surely the Lord has sent you. Can"}, {"start": "00:01:20", "end": "00:01:24", "text": "you help me dig this hole?\" Immediately"}, {"start": "00:01:21", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "the lion digs the hole. He buries Mary."}, {"start": "00:01:24", "end": "00:01:28", "text": "And so what? Yeah."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "Anthony the Great of Egypt, the father"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:06", "text": "of monasticism, 270 AD-ish."}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:07", "text": ">> What a wild world."}, {"start": "00:00:06", "end": "00:00:10", "text": ">> Crazy. But he's like, \"I'm just going to"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:11", "text": "go live as a monk.\" He founded a vacant"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "tomb. Basically, someone followed him"}, {"start": "00:00:11", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "out there. He's like, \"I'm just going to"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "live in here, and if you could just"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "bring me bread every now and then.\" He"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "lived in this tomb, and the stories that"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "he tells and that people tell around"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "Anthony the Great are insane. At one"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:24", "text": "point, he literally battled the devil"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "himself. So, this one story, these"}, {"start": "00:00:24", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "demons just start tormenting him in this"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "tomb. And they literally beat him up so"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "bad to where he almost died. They start"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "attacking him more and more. And at this"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "point, he'd just been praying [music]"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "and praying. And this is such a cool"}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "quote."}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:42", "text": ">> \"Our trust in the Lord is like a seal to"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "us and like a wall of safety.\" And as"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "soon as he said that,"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "the ceiling just opened up. The whole"}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:51", "text": "cave was shaking, and just a piercing"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "light came in. All the demons fled, and"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:55", "text": "God spoke to him, \"Because you have"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:57", "text": "endured and have not been defeated, I"}, {"start": "00:00:55", "end": "00:00:58", "text": "will always be your helper, and I will"}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "make your name known everywhere.\""}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:02", "text": ">> Wow. He inspired thousands and thousands"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:03", "text": "and thousands of monks."}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:04", "text": ">> Yeah."}, {"start": "00:01:03", "end": "00:01:08", "text": ">> And almost 2,000 years later, we're"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "talking about him still in his story."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "Kalupalik, the monster below who never"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "blinks because it's constantly watching"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "and it only presies on little children."}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "You're in the Arctic. It's freezing"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "cold. The people in the village are"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "always very clear. Do not go on the thin"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "ice. Do not go to the edge of the water."}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "This little boy is out on an adventure"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "with his dog and they're walking around"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "and suddenly he hears a tap and there's"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "no one around. It's just him and his"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:26", "text": "dog. He keeps following the sound of"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "this tap. So he gets to the edge of the"}, {"start": "00:00:26", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "water cuz he thinks there might be"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:33", "text": "somebody under there. He looks over and"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "then suddenly a long scaly slimy hand"}, {"start": "00:00:33", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "grabs his ankle, pulls him into the"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "water."}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:40", "text": ">> The dog starts panicking trying to grab"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "at him. He tries to grab at the dog. The"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "kid goes underwater. The dog runs back"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:45", "text": "to the village, starts barking like"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:47", "text": "crazy. They realize the kid's not with"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "him. So, they follow this dog. The dog's"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "going absolutely nuts and he takes him"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "to the edge of the water. He's literally"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:54", "text": "looking at the water barking. And they"}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "realize this may have been a visit from"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:59", "text": "what they call the kalupalik, which is a"}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:01:00", "text": "humanoid aquatic creature. And it's been"}, {"start": "00:00:59", "end": "00:01:02", "text": "passed down through generations in"}, {"start": "00:01:00", "end": "00:01:04", "text": "indigenous culture all over. This"}, {"start": "00:01:02", "end": "00:01:06", "text": "creature lives under the ice near"}, {"start": "00:01:04", "end": "00:01:08", "text": "shorelines in dark, shallow coastal"}, {"start": "00:01:06", "end": "00:01:11", "text": "waters. Apparently, it feeds off their"}, {"start": "00:01:08", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "youth so she can never age. This is a"}, {"start": "00:01:11", "end": "00:01:14", "text": "very scary story for little children."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "The most mysterious whale, the 52 herz"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "whale, also called the loneliest whale,"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "what they presume is a whale, cuz they"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "actually don't know. One of the most"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "fascinating and mysterious in marine"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "biology. And at 52 hertz, nothing can"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "hear it. So, nothing can respond to it"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "either. They've never been able to get a"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "visual of it, but they've been listening"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "to it for decades in the Pacific."}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "They're doing military sonar scanning"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "the ocean floor, and they picked up on"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "what sounded like a whale, but"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "registering at 52 hertz. And so they're"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "like, \"What is this thing?\" They assume"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "that maybe it's a hybrid whale, maybe a"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "mix between a blue whale and a fin"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "whale, which they apparently can"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:40", "text": "interbreed, which is fascinating. What's"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "crazy is that the migration patterns"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "follow the whales migration patterns."}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:45", "text": ">> That's cool."}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:47", "text": ">> There's no proof of it except for the 52"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:49", "text": "Herz audio that they've recorded from"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "the ocean, and it's just like deep, dark"}, {"start": "00:00:49", "end": "00:00:52", "text": "ocean where they're just getting this"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "very high pitch whale noise. Yeah."}, {"start": "00:00:52", "end": "00:00:56", "text": ">> What if it's like an alien ship, though?"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:56", "text": "I don't No whale."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:03", "text": "People are reporting that CERN turned"}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:05", "text": "back on. I just found some really"}, {"start": "00:00:03", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "interesting things. There's a kernel of"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:10", "text": "truth that gets stretched. Particle"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:13", "text": "collisions create conditions similar to"}, {"start": "00:00:10", "end": "00:00:15", "text": "the early universe. Physics talks about"}, {"start": "00:00:13", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "things like quantum fields, extra"}, {"start": "00:00:15", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "dimensions, virtual particles popping in"}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:20", "text": "and out of existence. That's the"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:22", "text": "definition of portal."}, {"start": "00:00:20", "end": "00:00:25", "text": ">> There was this one scientist that did"}, {"start": "00:00:22", "end": "00:00:28", "text": "talk about she saw like a ghostly"}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:29", "text": "apparition happening within the tube"}, {"start": "00:00:28", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "while it was happening. There was this"}, {"start": "00:00:29", "end": "00:00:34", "text": "viral video years ago of a ritual"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:36", "text": "outside of CERN that turned out to be a"}, {"start": "00:00:34", "end": "00:00:37", "text": "staged prank by employees, not a real"}, {"start": "00:00:36", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "experiment or event."}, {"start": "00:00:37", "end": "00:00:40", "text": ">> That's crazy."}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:41", "text": ">> No, they were doing a ceremony in front"}, {"start": "00:00:40", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "of the god Shiva."}, {"start": "00:00:41", "end": "00:00:43", "text": ">> That's scary stuff."}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:45", "text": ">> CERN is creepy to me."}, {"start": "00:00:43", "end": "00:00:47", "text": ">> What if they end up being successful and"}, {"start": "00:00:45", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "then they create a universe inside of"}, {"start": "00:00:47", "end": "00:00:50", "text": "our Earth?"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:51", "text": ">> That's a true worry or fear that they"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "could create a black hole"}, {"start": "00:00:51", "end": "00:00:54", "text": ">> that we just get sucked into"}, {"start": "00:00:53", "end": "00:00:56", "text": ">> and that we would"}, {"start": "00:00:54", "end": "00:00:57", "text": ">> That seems like pretty instant."}, {"start": "00:00:56", "end": "00:00:58", "text": ">> I don't know."}, {"start": "00:00:57", "end": "00:01:01", "text": ">> We wouldn't feel it."}, {"start": "00:00:58", "end": "00:01:01", "text": ">> Maybe. Maybe it has to grow though."}]

[{"start": "00:00:00", "end": "00:00:04", "text": "I got to TELL YOU ABOUT AN ISLAND."}, {"start": "00:00:02", "end": "00:00:05", "text": ">> THIS IS A STORY ABOUT a good man who"}, {"start": "00:00:04", "end": "00:00:07", "text": "owns an island. This is tiny private"}, {"start": "00:00:05", "end": "00:00:09", "text": "island outside Long Island between New"}, {"start": "00:00:07", "end": "00:00:12", "text": "York and Connecticut, owned by a man"}, {"start": "00:00:09", "end": "00:00:14", "text": "named Dean Cayman, who also was the"}, {"start": "00:00:12", "end": "00:00:17", "text": "inventor of the Segue. This guy became"}, {"start": "00:00:14", "end": "00:00:19", "text": "uber uber rich, became super successful."}, {"start": "00:00:17", "end": "00:00:21", "text": "This guy buys this island, just"}, {"start": "00:00:19", "end": "00:00:23", "text": "completely turns it into his own"}, {"start": "00:00:21", "end": "00:00:25", "text": "country. He declared it the kingdom of"}, {"start": "00:00:23", "end": "00:00:27", "text": "North Dumpling."}, {"start": "00:00:25", "end": "00:00:30", "text": "He declared himself the king. He created"}, {"start": "00:00:27", "end": "00:00:32", "text": "his own flag, his own constitution,"}, {"start": "00:00:30", "end": "00:00:35", "text": "established laws. He had a treaty with"}, {"start": "00:00:32", "end": "00:00:38", "text": "the president at the time, George HW"}, {"start": "00:00:35", "end": "00:00:39", "text": "Bush. Bush visited this island, came to"}, {"start": "00:00:38", "end": "00:00:42", "text": "the island, he gave him a tour, they"}, {"start": "00:00:39", "end": "00:00:44", "text": "shook hands, and he said that US would"}, {"start": "00:00:42", "end": "00:00:46", "text": "not invade and he would remain"}, {"start": "00:00:44", "end": "00:00:48", "text": "completely independent."}, {"start": "00:00:46", "end": "00:00:50", "text": ">> Wow. They had a handshake agreement"}, {"start": "00:00:48", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "treaty right then and there that he's on"}, {"start": "00:00:50", "end": "00:00:53", "text": "his"}]